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NO need for the click bait, it only make you seem like some low-class scammer: a missile is not a "nuke" missile unless it has a nuclear warhead. A hypersonic missile without a nuclear warhead is just a very expensive way to blow up a building.
FYI: hypersonic missiles must decelerate when approaching the target proximity, or they are unable to track the target with radar, IR, GPS -- whatever. Some are able to do evasive maneuvers at this point, but are also vulnerable to interception by conventional means, as well as hypersonic anti-missiles-missiles. All ICBMs are hypersonic, but most, currently lack the ability to decelerate and maneuver. The USA abandoned its own hypersonic program decades ago, or so they say. The US robotic space vehicle the X-37B is also hypersonic. But in the end, if worse comes to worse, we may well find out that speed just doesn't matter to defensive laser and other beam type weapons, unless of course you are warping nukes to the target FTL.
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IMHO the most significant weapons in the war: On the Russian side the Krasnopol and Krasnopol M guided artillery shells with a max range of about 16 miles and a hit rate on specific targets of about 80%. The Russian also have a rocket propelled guided artillery round thought to be the equal or better in range of the American rocket propelled guided Excalibur shell, but I kinda doubt it, according to Wikipedia it's range is 18 miles.
The American Excalibur is devastatingly accurate and can be used by existing M109A7 Paladin self-propelled howitzers which can send Excalibur rounds to 39.3 kilometers (24.4 miles), which ERCA an extended barrel length howitzer can now lob to 43 miles. Their is a German/South African gun that reportedly can do a little better.
The Canadians recently supplied Ukraine with both the Excalibur rounds and the Dutch gave a small number of self-propelled howitzers that can use it and now the Germans have too. It can also be used by the towed guns recently supplied by the USA and Canada, but they pale in comparison to the capabilities of the German Panzerhaubitzen 2000 that the Dutch and Germans are supplying (unfortunately in extremely limited numbers). See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_DS6UvZXPo&t=148s
The use and efficiency of these shells in an anti-artillery role by the competing Russian and recently supplied American radar controlled systems that can target and fire on artillery units within seconds of their use may be the knife edge upon which the entire war is determined, -- baring the deployment of western air power, in Ukraine.
To me the most exciting development in this field is that Norway's Nammo has unveiled a potentially revolutionary concept for an air-breathing, ramjet-powered, pseudo-missile that any standard 155mm howitzer can fire at targets more than 60 miles away. This would be a truly great time for Norway, and Nammo to supply the 155s with a shell that can reach out and touch Russian artillery with little or no exposure other than to air to ground or guide missile fire. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vIPNElDkns&t=38s
Estimates by Rand and other think tanks estimate that Russia has already used more than 70% of their advanced guided missiles in Ukraine and they will not be able to replace them in a timely fashion. To have Russia exchange expensive guided missiles for common towed artillery with uncommon munitions, is not such a bad exchange in a scenario in which missile production is dependent upon tech they may no longer have access to.
In any event, even if Russia should win in Ukraine, and realistically there is very good chance of this, Russia is totally screwed in the long term. See here to find out why Peter Zeihan finds this to be the case in one of his many videos on the Geopop YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPMtmuuVNw&t=176s
As he said, "A hypersonic missile without a nuclear warhead is just a very expensive way to blow up a building." Let's hope they keep up the stupidity they have been exhibiting in this area, with their "terror weapons".
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Prediction: We will figure out exactly how they cheated, then we will figure out the next way that they cheated, and the one after that, and so on: with a factual and rational narrative about the qualities of people who would do such things. We will even say, "They said it couldn't happen here.": out of ironic gallows humor. Maybe at times their cheating will be so outrageous that hundreds of thousand of people will march or occupy something, but amazingly, almost miraculously Mitch and Lindsey, and the rest of Caligula JR's little unholy Greek chorus will retain their offices, and they will go on cheating and bullying and claiming that the law is what ever they think it is at the moment. And we will figure it all out.
We have known forever that it would be best to get all money out of politics if the most ethical and fair government is what you want. We have known forever that proportional representation is superior to winner-takes-all seesaws. We have known that the banks are incapable of regulating themselves and that the wealth of the nation is being sucked up by the military industrial professional political worker complex, that the drug war is a farce that has created the first billionaire criminal organizations. In our hollowed out lives, news has become entertainment. And the fantasyland they present to the public is a poor substitute for what should have been the golden destiny of mankind on earth and in regions beyond.
Bernie understands that campaign funding is the lynch-pin for all the legalized corruption. That is why, I am willing to give up my AR15s, overlook my feelings about rewarding people for violating immigration regulations, and even bow out of opinions regarding abortion since I am not a woman and cannot put myself in the place of one considering such a decision. That is how fundamentally important campaign finance reform is to me and the future of the USA. It's not sexy but it is THE issue upon which the fair treatment of all other issues depend.
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@GlennTXstate10 If you think that anyone is making EVs on the same level of engineering as Tesla you really don't know much about EVs. No one has "caught up", in fact Tesla is continuously pulling further ahead of everyone. Other OEMs may offer superficial frills and style to decorate their EV platforms that are at the least, five years behind Tesla, and in many areas they will never even equal today's Tesla. Aside from BYD, who is far behind Tesla in every metric and about equal in price now, no one is able to produce an EV at a profit except Tesla. There is a reason why Tesla is the safest car in a collision, has the highest customer loyalty, and whose customers on average are the happiest with their autos. You can believe all the fake news put out by the various commercial media who are hungering for the billions of dollars that Tesla does not have to spend on ads, like GM over 2 billion on ads last year, but you are just being manipulated by people who have a pecuniary interest in making Tesla look bad, so it will be forced to pay the advertising vig like everyone else. But it doesn't have to play that game, just because their cars are superior in engineering and some people care more about that than having lots of body styles on already out-dated platforms.
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You may have heard about Centralia PA. It is a town in the old anthracite coal region of the Appalachians, where the entire town was evacuated and given new homes because of the underground coal fires.
I drive through there twice a week, and strip mining coal is still very active, enough to keep the highways a dirty mess with coal haulers dragging black culm onto the highways from their dirt roads continually, and the toxic black cloud you have to drive through to get past them. It is literally a black cloud that overhangs everything.
BUT if you were to stop on the west side of Centralia (which is now about five or six houses who refused to leave, surrounded by empty lots where their former neighbors row houses were bulldozed (they never did get the underground fire put out) and you stopped right at the nearest strip mine operation and their filthy lots full of giant haulers that are too big to use on roads, and you looked back at where Centrailia used to be, you would notice that on the mountain ridge to the east , right above another mining operation, is the first of a series of wind turbines that generate electricity, that start there and follow that mountain ridge for a good twenty miles or so.
Coal is death, and then people wonder why they are dying of all kinds of respiratory and metabolic diseases that are caused by coal and ICE vehicles.
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In the sixties we saw that "There is no problem until there is trouble." The power elite and their misanthropic syncopates are not only out of touch, they are objectively insane in their behavior and the policies they establish. We thirst for justice, and after the possibility of a golden future for mankind. But they have no thirst for justice -- because -- they write the legislation, and it has become a legislation of privilege and legalized crimes, that is ultimately enforced by low level sell-outs and authoritarian types who have a taste for using the petty authority granted to them to push people around, lie in court and get away with murder. Or at the very least, stand with the blue mob's code of omerta.
Now people say, myself included, there are a lot of good cops. True that, but bad cops are just as common now, and the good cops ain't doin' shit about it. So functionally they are all pretty bad in total.
I don't know about you, but I have never in my seventy years needed a cop for anything. I've reported thefts: nothing came of it.
I have however gotten a few traffic tickets when I was young, for basically having a hot car and a pretty girl next to me. There was no need at all to break the law, they just were so full of hatred/envy -- Really.
I was arrested for pot in college by an undercover scumbag that everyone knew was an undercover scumbag, who simply turned in drugs to a state narcotics officer and said I sold them to him. Like everyone else the scumbag did the same thing to, I was given the choice of pleading guilty and doing a few weeks in jail or facing over ten years in prison.
I am not black, I was not poor, I didn't even have very long hair, which was a real reason for discrimination back then.
When I was in high school I wore a black armband for the VietNam moratorium. I was told to leave school for the day. I went to a local dinner and a young off duty cop asked me why I wasn't in school. I told him and he threw me to the ground and started strangling me.
Every cop I have ever seen testify in court, just out and out lied. They had it all written down, what didn't happen, with such impressive notes about times and what not
I don't think that my experience is anomalous. I think it is pretty representative of most people.
Now I just treat the police like they are all potentially violent insane people, who may or may not bite. Police in America is really, mostly an alternate venue of taxation. Almost all of us would be better off without them.
Doesn't it cost more to imprison a man than to give him an ivy league education? Innocent men in prison is money in the bank for these reptilian brained psychotics, we call our leaders, the politician, and our real leaders, the politicians' owners. The banksters, and the hidden money, the insiders, the power elite.
They are pretty much assholes.
But they control the men with the guns.
But not all of them, thanks to the second amendment.
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I've seen photos of M549 HERA rounds, seemingly in use in Ukraine. This is the rocket assisted HE round. Still needs a bit of guidance to be Excalibur. Good to see something anyhow. Now if they only had some M1156 kits to go with the rocket assist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1156_Precision_Guidance_Kit
IMHO the most significant weapons in the war: On the Russian side the Krasnopol and Krasnopol M guided artillery shells with a max range of about 16 miles and a hit rate on specific targets of about 80%. The Russian also have a rocket propelled guided artillery round thought to be the equal or better in range of the American rocket propelled guided Excalibur shell, but I kinda doubt it, according to Wikipedia it's range is 18 miles.
The American Excalibur is devastatingly accurate and can be used by existing M109A7 Paladin self-propelled howitzers which can send Excalibur rounds to 39.3 kilometers (24.4 miles), which ERCA an extended barrel length howitzer can now lob to 43 miles. Their is a German/South African gun that reportedly can do a little better. The Canadians recently supplied Ukraine with both the Excalibur rounds and the Dutch gave a small number of self-propelled howitzers that can use it and now the Germans have too. It can also be used by the towed guns recently supplied by the USA and Canada, but they pale in comparison to the capabilities of the German Panzerhaubitzen 2000 that the Dutch and Germans are supplying (unfortunately in extremely limited numbers). See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_DS6UvZXPo&t=148s
The use and efficiency of these shells in an anti-artillery role by the competing Russian and recently supplied American radar controlled systems that can target and fire on artillery units within seconds of their use may be the knife edge upon which the entire war is determined, -- baring the deployment of western air power, in Ukraine.
To me the most exciting development in this field is that Norway's Nammo has unveiled a potentially revolutionary concept for an air-breathing, ramjet-powered, pseudo-missile that any standard 155mm howitzer can fire at targets more than 60 miles away. This would be a truly great time for Norway, and Nammo to supply the 155s with a shell that can reach out and touch Russian artillery with little or no exposure other than to air to ground or guide missile fire. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vIPNElDkns&t=38s
Rand and other think tanks estimate that Russia has already used more than 70% of their advanced guided missiles in Ukraine and they will not be able to replace them in a timely fashion. To have Russia exchange expensive guided missiles for common towed artillery with uncommon munitions, is not such a bad exchange in a scenario in which missile production is dependent upon tech they may no longer have access to.
In any event, even if Russia should win in Ukraine, and realistically there is very good chance of this, Russia is totally screwed in the long term. See here to find out why Peter Zeihan finds this to be the case in one of his many videos on the Geopop YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPMtmuuVNw&t=176s
As he said, "A hypersonic missile without a nuclear warhead is just a very expensive way to blow up a building." Let's hope they keep up the stupidity they have been exhibiting in this area, with their "terror weapons".
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Trump is just reiterating the Putin policy of giving away the national assets to a small group of oligarchs, criminal bankers, and hedge fund managers. Who will then pay him off with billions hidden in the computers of Panamanian lawyers like they did with Putin. Two international criminals are now posing as the leaders of the worlds most powerful nations. Blame the stupid democrats who voted for Hillary in the primaries instead of the one good man who ran. The one good man who was way ahead of either of them in the polls and now is the most loved politician in the nation. Who will the insider cheating DNS come up with to run this time, instead of the guy who would have beaten Trump like the old rug he wears. Now they are crying and still don't see how they are responsible for the present kleptocracy, under the Pussy-Grabber-in-Chief.
Look this isn't the first time a New York City conman conned a bunch of small town rubes from the rust belt, and it probably won't be the last as long as lies are allowed to be reported on news channels as facts without any repercussions. The sooner the old idiots: who watch Fox new all day, and believe it, die, the better off we all will be.
Democracy can work, but only if actual facts about matters are presented to the public. This is proven scientifically in the field of emergent functions. Remember the urn of beans at the state fair, where you try to guess how many beans are in it. The average of all guesses is always more accurate than the most accurate individual guess. But the facts are apparent. If gum balls and psuedo beans were mixed in and nobody actually knew what was what, it wouldn't be like that. That is the situation we are in with alt.facts like presented by Fox and the many fake organizations bankrolled by the greedy idiot savant Robert Mercer, the Koch bros and others, like Britebart news. Democracy cannot work correctly as long as people believe the lies of the power elite.
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@2brealist430 Your reasoning is superficial. First of all they are not OUR anything. You may have helped pay for them, but they are not yours. Secondly: there are bad actors on both sides, and some of the bad actors are infiltrators that are attempting to stimulate a draconian reaction against the people they hate.
I agree: if violence is to be used: and for the brain dead I will add that I am not advocating violence in the least, it would be much more effective for people to burn The Hamptons and other such enclaves. Or alternately to just assassinate Wall Street executives. Not much chance of that right now. It should be obvious to anyone that this is not an expression of class warfare, it is an expression of rage from being dehumanized by what is for many an inhumane system
Actually your bombastic style of rhetoric sounds quite juvenile. And you did not disprove the fact that the power elite coddle uniformed criminals so that they will be willing to kill, if it comes down to it, without hesitation, in any way. . . . Despite your trying to deflect the statement with acts that have nothing to do with what has been going on in the USA. The number of violent crimes has been continually decreasing but the number of people murdered by the police has been continually increasing. I am simply offering an explanation of why this is, and it is in no way dependent upon the action of the people now in the streets as a gut reaction to an intolerable situation.
OH, I see the problem now, you took the villagers with pitchforks image literally, you must be a republican, it was a metaphor einstein.
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@ozzvilla9226 There are two kinds of Trump supporters, multimillionaires and fools. Which are you? The people who call themselves conservatives are not conservatives at all, they are radical selfish right-wing militaristic fascists. For your information I used to be a republican, until I saw what Reagan and his mob of thieves did to the country. Ran up the deficit and showered money on the wealthy. Trump for your information had run up the deficit faster and further than any president, bar none. And I am talking about before the Covid came around. At the same time showering the richest people in the country with government money, and destroying all the support for the less fortunate. He claimed to drain the swamp but he is the swamp. He has routinely put persons who hate specific government agencies in charge of them in order to ruin them. He is a front man for Robert Mercer and the Koch brother and you don't even know who Mercer is. He has more Goldman Sacks bankers in his cabinet than even Obama, and Obama deported more undocumented aliens then him, but he makes a big deal out of it and imprisons infants. Fuck you and fuck him and the fuck the demented horses you rode in on. By the way don't attack the democrats in response. I abjure both parties because they are owned by the same misanthropic petulance. Trump is a conman and a fake populist, we need a real populist in office like Jessie V. Anyone who idolizes Trump is a moron. And by the way, Democracy Now's accuracy makes yours look like what it is, absolute nonsense. Try checking your facts, like you didn't when you claimed that cops had the most dangerous jobs. You were only off by fifteen places which is better than most of your bullshit psuedo-altenate-facts.
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Bernie $ VS Bloomburg $
Apologies to those who took arithmetic in elementary school. I know you already know this -- even so you may not be able to envision the difference in these fortunes and this explanation may help.
Bernie has a stack of two million one dollar bills that he wants to give to Judy.
Bernie is old and can only give her one dollar each second.
If Bernie is wearing a catheter and doesn't need to go to the bathroom and can hand Judy dollar bills 24 hours a day, 7 days a week: how long will it take Bernie to give Judy his two million dollars?
answer: There are 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hours and 24 hours in a day:
Therefore Bernie can hand Judy 86,400 dollar bills every day. So he can give her $86,000 per day.
So it would take Bernie just about 23 days and three and a half hours to give Judy two million dollars.
(since $86,400 goes into $2,000,000 a little over 23.15 times)
In twenty three days Bernie could hand Judy his two million dollars, one dollar at a time, if he can stay awake,
and he can, cause he is a vastly woke dude.
How long would it take little Mike to hand Judy his 60,2 billion dollars one dollar at a time?
Mike is also old and wearing a catheter, is being fed intravenously and attended by his personal medical staff.
Through the wonders of modern pharmacology and a neural implant he purchased, Mike can also stay awake.
But due to age Mike can also only hand Judy one dollar bill per second.
So Mike, like Bernie can give Judy $86,400 per day.
There are 6,759.26 ($86,400) in 60.2 billion dollars so it would take Mike six hundred and ninety six thousand seven hundred and fifty nine days to hand Judy his 60.2 billion dollars. That's 696,759.26 days.
That many days equals one thousand nine hundred and eight years and a few days short of eight months.
So it would take Mike 1908.93 years to hand Judy all his money (that we know of).
Bernie would be broke in 23 days.
Mike would be broke in 1,909 years.
Who is the oligarch?
Addendum: Please note that since Mike is a capitalist who profits, not from his labor or producing goods but by investment, his wealth will actually be increasing by more than $86,400 per day because of profits on his fortune. So in reality, no matter how many thousands of years he spends handing Judy his money, he would never be able to do it and would always have more to hand her each day than he did the day before.
Addendum PS: Old Jewish wisdom: "Every time somebody makes something for nothing, somebody else makes nothing for something." In Bloomburg's and the other billionares cases this "somebody else" is you and everyone else. If you don't understand this you are truly blind and will never understand why wealth is concentrating in fewer and fewer hands and you are being robbed in ways you neither understand nor can do anything about without a fundamental paradigm shift in our laws, government, and cultural world-view.
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Usually TYT sees through red herrings that are set up by the power elite to restrict our freedoms and impower those whose career advancement depends on stirring up hysteria then offering a solution that is exponentially more harmful than the problem.
In this case TYT fell for the same old dirty trick like some county bumpkin at the county fair.
When they were first soliciting public opinions on a more restrictive pain medication legislation, everybody with any real knowledge on the dynamics at play here knew this would only result in a major increase in the use of heroin and a corresponding increase in the cash flow of a number of international criminal and terrorist networks.
Are you so blind as to not have a clue that the intention of the super restrictive regulations regarding the prescription of pain meds for chronic conditions set up barriers to both the sufferers of such pain and the doctors who wish they could help them.
When this new restrictive legislation which makes it impossible for people with chronic pain to have a regular recurring prescription, without continual visits to their doctor, one for each prescription, and enrollment in pain clinics, which will offer a number of alternative therapies, the vast majority of which will not help the vast majority of sufferers.
Use you head, this is just the next, "War On" and the only ones who are going to benefit from this criminal scam, are the bankers who wash the illegal profits of the rapidly expanding heroin market, the criminal, terrorist, and the NGOs that use it for an alternative source of funds for black ops so dirty that even black ops command can't tolerate the illegalities involved, like Reagan did in Iran/Contra. Let's not forget the directors of programs that will see a renewed influx of funding despite the restriction on marijuana being shown for it was (pure lies and folly that alienated at least three generations from the American mainstream),this really doesn't equal the folly of the present situation, or the total suffering, death, and vast corruption that the billions of dollars in additional profits for international organized crime will have on our society at large.
They already have enough power to rouse up all this hysteria over what is just a bulge in population entering an age were it is just natural to seek a little analgesia. In Canada you can buy codeine over the counter without a prescription, and they have a huge appetite per capita for codeine preparations, and you can just see how decadent their society is compared to ours.
Instead of acting like a bunch of ignorant dupes in this matter why don't you do some real investigative journalism and uncover the payoffs to legislators by the interests who want to restrict the sale of strong analgesics thus driving millions into the heroin market, which will cost them much less than a legal prescription, but of course has many more risks, all most all of which stem from its legal status.
My own doctor predicted a wave of suicides as the new legislation when into effect. In this he was correct. The people who, despite all of the evidence to the contrary, still believe that the government is looking out for them in this matter. It isn't, this is a program that from the very start, seemed designed to produce crime and death by overdose, and of course the suicides of people who will not take responsibility for their own pain management, and get out on the street or under the net, and buy some heroin when the new system throws insurmountable obstacles in the face of the pain sufferer.
Society is once again the victim of the power elite pulling off the same old tricks in this same old matter. Like marijuana the initial restriction of the sale and use of opium in Western Civilization was in Great Britain, when it was restricted at the bequest of behind the scenes manipulation of the legislature by the distillers interests. The distillers who traditionally served the needs of the miners and factory workers so that they could remain somewhat oblivious of their pain and hopelessness of their situation. Opium was more effective, far less harmful physically so far less harmful that it is usually unbelievable to people whose thoughts on the subject have been subjected to the propaganda currently in circulation regarding this matter.
Really, how can you be so irresponsible and stupid?
You did not even look into this matter at all, you just read and then commented on a press release by some official or official sounding organization. Are you gonna be part of the solution or continue to be the unknowing dupe of forces that profit from victimizing people who are desperate to just not be hurting so much that they would in many cases rather be dead than face another day of agony. . . . No only an unsympathetic, psychopath who was incapable of any degree of empathy, or who possessed not a nanoparticle of intelligence, would be the ignorant supporter of such a regressive and draconian policy as the one we now have, and which you don't even seem to know about.
Fu*k all the people responsible for the new wave of criminals they have helped create, not to mention the incalculable suffering by the innocent victims of your idiot legislation, the stupidity, and failure of which was proven and predicted by every useful and successful drug policy ever enacted (see Portugal, Switzerland, and the new freedoms being passed in South America. In every case decriminalization worked, largely eliminated the street crime associated with heroin addiction and the cost to maintain a habit. This cost is actually pennies but for the illegal nature and resulting inflated prices that the various criminal and banking organizations profit so greatly from.
So thanks for making what is already a colossal and devastating problem just a little bit worse.
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@carynmartin6053 All humans have continual narratives unless they are enlightened in the moment. That being said, and true, and it is: the University of Maryland did a study years ago to find the most accurate source of news that the average person has access to. This study found that those who relied on PBS for their information held the most accurate ideas about what was actually happening in the world. As opposed to those whom relied on Fox cable news (which is one of the, if not the, most watched of all channels): those who relied on Fox as the primary source of their understanding of current events, knew less about what was actually going on than the people who had no interest in current events and did not follow the news.
This seems unlikely until one understands that Fox and CNN, and their ilk, are not like the old broadcast news networks that held their news divisions as sacred and entirely isolated from, not only the entertainment divisions of the network, but more importantly from the sales department at the network.
While seeming to have the prime directive similar to what the networks use to have, Fox and company are not there to inform you, like most viewers assume, their sole raison d'etre is to sell commercial advertising time. The more viewers they have the more they can sell their commercial time for. So they basically present the narrative that they assume most people want to hear.
Even when some of the actual facts are correct on Fox, which is not all as common as you would think, they are embedded, in an entirely false narrative, whose only guide is the effect on the relative value of advertising time sales.
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@ozzvilla9226 Get real and stop spewing nonsense. Police and deputy patrolmen rank 16th in the dangerous professions, and if you consider all police work as one thing they don't even make the list.
Here are the 25 most dangerous jobs in America: from most dangers on down.
Logging workers
Fishers and related fishing workers
Aircraft pilots and flight engineers
Roofers
Refuse and recyclable material collectors
Driver/sales workers and truck drivers
Farmers, ranchers and other agricultural managers
Structural iron and steel workers
First-line supervisors of construction trades and extraction workers
First-line supervisors of landscaping, lawn service and groundskeeping workers
Electrical power-line installers and repairers
Grounds maintenance workers
Miscellaneous agricultural workers
Helpers, construction trades
First-line supervisors of mechanics, installers and repairers
Police and sheriff’s patrol officers
Construction laborers
Maintenance and repair workers, general
Mining machine operators
Operation engineers and other construction equipment operators
Bus and truck mechanics and diesel engine specialists
Electricians
Heating, air conditioning, and refrigeration mechanics and installers
Athletes, coaches, umpires and related workers
Industrial truck and tractor operators
The grounds keepers at a golf course has a more dangerous job than a patrol cop einstein. Get you head out of the fiction fog you think in.
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However here are some of my thoughts on democracy and how it can work.
In observing certain social animals, like ant colonies and bee hives, it is apparent that certain capacities are actualized of which the individual animals themselves are incapable. These are sometimes referred to as emergent functions, some of which are assumed to come about because of the activation of certain epigenetic potentials in the genome given the proper protein to initiate them. This is debatable, however the functions themselves are easily observable.
Humans are also capable of emergent functioning -- in a political sense. Here is an example of this in action:
We are all familiar with a type of game of chance that one sometimes comes across at a charity event or perhaps a county fair. There will be a large urn or similar vessel and it will contain tens of thousands of jelly beans or marbles or gumballs or something. And typically you make a donation or buy a "chance" and then you make a guess as to how may jelly beans are in the urn. Of course it is impossible to count the jelly beans and it is also very difficult to even make any kind of accurate estimation. So usually thousands of people will make a guess and put it in a box and then the most accurate guess wins a prize, like a car or something.
Well as it turns out: the average of all of the guesses is almost always (actually "always", but I am hedging) more accurate than the best guess. . . .
Now it is true there is no one obscuring parts of the urn or extolling the virtues of certain sets of numbers or otherwise lying to the guessers with false narratives about the jelly beans or the process of guessing. Of course there is no Donald Trump, or FOx news, or CNN spinning false narratives about the jelly beans or telling you that there is a large grapefruit unseen in the middle of the urn that is displacing patriotic American jelly beans, so it is not exactly the same thing as a democratic vote on legislation or some other political decision.
Yet I do believe that this human potential could be brought to bear in a political scenario: if, for instance, something like fines and imprisonment or perhaps huge fines and banishment where the consequence for presenting anything but verifiable facts as evidence in arguing for or against any particular collective democratic decision.
And perhaps, just maybe this collective talent could also be mobilized on a level of finer granularity by calling into question the false narratives and other deceptions of the power-elite and their legions of sycophantic wannabes to themselves be objects of observation and study as is now happening via the decentraization of political commentary and criticism made possible by the internet.
So, potentially, democracy may still have some very significant tricks up it's venerable sleeve, only this time, tricks for the good instead of the in the service of evil. And perhaps some day we could be supplemented in these quandaries by the kind of advanced AI and machine learning that can beat the champions at GO. A game that seems to me, to be very like our political process.
Democracy and the so called representative democracy, democratic republic or constitutional republic are very different things.
They are forms of democracy. In most cases minus the democracy part. When people blithely state that we live in a democracy it is incorrect and misleading, like most of the paradigms that the public is continually bombarded with via the corporate news.
A republic is just a way for the plutocrats to stay in power and still have people think they are in a participatory democracy. The only democracy in US government is that of congress, and they are 98% owned by the power-elite that decide who will run and fund their reelection campaigns with the legalized bribes of their campaign contributions.
There is representation, but not for you and me. We live in a farce. Are you not paying attention? Do you think that this cheating is something new? Your "representatives" are not there to represent you, they are there for the most part to make sure that the voices of the people never get heard, and if they get heard to never be acted upon. Or if they are once in a blue moon forced by popular uprising to act for the people, soon as the masses disperse they will dismember the body that threatened their power one discontent at a time, jailed, disappeared, or simply smeared and ignored by the corporate media. Have you not been present? Look around. . . .
Representative democracy is a convoluted fraudulent conception. Democracy is something that we are continually told we have, which we do not.
We have democracy in the same sense that the slaves, women, citizens without land, and foreigners had a democracy in the golden age of Athens. Only they knew that they did not have a vote or any real participation in the government. Most Americans do not know that.
It should be obvious to anybody with the slightest ability to perceive what is actually going on that this is a conceptual illusion that is used to mislead and quell the disenfranchised mob. Bring on the super-delegates, the Iowa national delegate formula, the electoral collage, the PACz and Citizens United -- a democracy would not abide these contaminants, or entertain their adoption for even a moment.
A democracy and the state we live in are two very different things. In a democracy the one with the most votes is not the loser like in the USA. The courts have decided that even determination of who will be the candidates, such as occurs in the legendary smoke filled rooms of the DNC and RNC has no legal obligation to be fair or democratic in our two party system. . . . ???????
We live in a kleptocracy with a democratic shroud over it, and most people, like almost all people, do not understand how their rights and money are being stolen from them by corporate pilferage and plunder. In fact our present government is functionally a cryptofascist kleptocracy in which all real power, control of the men with guns and uniforms, the state, and the economy is held by a small group of lying psychopaths. Like Robert Mercer,, the Koch brother, Bezos and the mob of banksters that suck up the wealth of the nation like vampires and offer nothing but bullshit and corruption in return.
We have known forever that it would be best to get all money out of politics if the most ethical and fair government is what you want. We have known forever that proportional representation is superior to winner-takes-all seesaws. We have known that the banks are incapable of regulating themselves and that the wealth of the nation is being sucked up by the military industrial professional political worker complex, that the drug war is a farce that has created the first billionaire criminal organizations. In our hollowed out lives, news has become entertainment. And the fantasyland they present to the public is a poor substitute for what should have been the golden destiny of mankind on earth and in regions beyond.
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When the boomers were teenagers and in their early twenties, if someone expressed an opinion on TV, the station had to provide free equal time for those with opposing or divergent opinions. That is how far our society has devolved, and nobody even noticed. It used to be illegal for a cop to search your car, or enter you house without a warrant. Now it's ok to kill you if they get scared. This has become a shit country since the shit-heads have taken over. Of course they made it very comfy for the shitheads, and very profitable too. The entire conservative movement is merely a regressive reaction to the positive conscious societal evolution that was taking place in the sixties and early seventies. It started with Reagan and disco, and that was enough for people who never really were hip except to fit in, to no longer be ashamed of being regressive or superficial assholes. Now finally perhaps this transient delay in human evolution can be transcended like the degenerate speed bump it is, in the long term view of the golden destiny of mankind, which the shitheads have diverted into stupid shit like yachts with trees on them, trillions of dollars worth of weapons, or empty houses and apartments all over the world. Time for some reeducation for these shit-heads.
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Trump is a conman, a front man for a cadre of billionares who would rather have the USA destroy itself internally, that is, give up the hope that our founders, as fallible and human as they were, had in their most ideal vision.
These people, like Robert Mercer the idiot savant hedge-fund rainman, and the Kochs and other prime suspects that would rather have the nation ruined of any higher purpose than pay the taxes on their ill-gotten, planet destroying gains.
Fortunately for them, they own the media, at the same time that they are telling you that the media is against them and liberal.
They have millions of people thinking that real news is fake and fake news is real.
They have such sophisticated means of persuasion, functionally brain washing, that they have totally transformed the nation in the last forty years no matter who was in office: Goldman Sach and the other corrupting and ruinous influences owned them, and Trump is the worst of them. He has more Goldman Sach minions in charge of agencies that they hate, than any other prez ever did. And the 80,000 rust belt white male voters that made the electoral difference still think that he is there for them, against the establishment.
It's a huge farce. These people who voted for him are the kind of people who only watch Fox News -- some are functional, maybe successful and hard-working, but they are rubes.
It ain't the first time that some NYC conman, pulled one over on a bunch of rust belt rubes and it won't be the last.
If you see what he is actually doing, and you are yourself not at least a multimillionaire, and you are still in favor of Trump: you need to broaden your scope of information outside of things you like to hear.
He is going to make your life poorer, and the rich richer, without any doubt. That is why he is there.
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Think about this: If the Gigafactory is Tesla's real product, what type of product is Tesla itself? I am not talking about what type of a "financial product" Tesla stock is.
I am asking about the real total process and production of the physical and information transformations of Tesla as a whole, as a core of the physical plant and IP of Tesla, and compute as process . . . . All products, services, and the physical plants along with potentials of management, employees, capital allocation power and everything directly controlled and highly effected by it.
The bot coming on line, AI and DoJO firing up, the revolutions in manufacturing tech now being initiated and the future tech in development -- EVERYTHING.
Everything looked at as a whole.
Elon is forging an analogue of a universal quantum constructor in the real world. Which is supposed to just be a physical theory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40CB12cj_aM&t=1232s
It's a good thing that SpaceX is gearing so swiftly, because Tesla will not be able to be bound to the earth. And when the need arises the ride will be at the curb.
Twenty years to the first off-world gigafactory.
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I know this generally does not play in the decision of what car a person would purchase, but on a purely moral level -- despite the copious media FUD to the contrary (which we all know is motivated purely because of pecuniary interest on the part of the media companies true agenda which is to sell ad space/time and cover the short positions of the holding companies that really own them {so grow up}) AS I was saying: on a purely moral level VW deserves to fail, and fail miserably, as does Mercedies, Porsche, GM, and probably others. Other than Tesla if there is a OEM that has operated in anything other than a truly criminal manner, at times, I am not aware of it -- perhaps some minor players that don't really move any metrics have, I don't know. Maybe you do.
But all these companies would end up in hell if we were judging them from a Medieval perspective, or in jail if we used a criminal metric.
And the poetic irony of it is, that they continually have various shills and interested parties spreading disinformation at light speed on a daily basis, accusing Tesla of doing what they have been found to have been doing all along.
Too bad people don't consider the moral behavior or intentions of a company in their purchasing decision, because the major OEMs that would hold up to scrutiny are very few.
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So happy that DN picked up on this. This is one of the most significant public statements by a sitting Congressman this century. So very unfortunate that the good Christian church ladies that are funding this subversion, along with Koch and other elitist misanthropes who are the real architects and funders, will not see this or be aware of it, and would not understand it or be interested in it even if they did see it. And if they can construe the narrative of "right to life" in (what is to them a melange of meaningless verbiage) it would win their nod of approval.
That is the world we live in. Rule of the evil through the manipulation and deception of the stupid.
And as Gurdjieff said, "Even God has no defense against stupidity."
Of course the left has their own version of deceiving and manipulating the stupid, but it is not nearly as effective, because it is not stupid enough, but with the rabid pursuit of meaningless gestures against symbols that nobody pays attention to anyway, and the censure of anybody not hysterical with a kind of reactionary pseudo-egalitarian woke fervor: that ignores near all of history and most of reality -- they come darn close. Isn't it time to give up this endlessly repeating cycle of futility we are kept enmired in so the power-elite can continue to consolidate their positions: which are even now all but unassailable by any means or from any psuedo-direction, such as the established left or right. It is time to evolve beyond government that is designed to be directed through manipulation by the power-elite and into a form of government that stimulates and elevates those with intelligence and talent without them needing to be the hand-maidens to the corrupt insular power-elite. We need to transform our political system into a NeoConfusian-technomeritocracy to serve the advancement of all citizens, without need for birth advantage, or privilege.
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IMHO the most significant weapons in the war: On the Russian side the Krasnopol and Krasnopol M guided artillery shells with a max range of about 16 miles and a hit rate on specific targets of about 80%. The Russian also have a rocket propelled guided artillery round thought to be the equal or better in range of the American rocket propelled guided Excalibur shell, but I kinda doubt it, according to Wikipedia it's range is 18 miles.
The American Excalibur is devastatingly accurate and can be used by existing M109A7 Paladin self-propelled howitzers which can send Excalibur rounds to 39.3 kilometers (24.4 miles), which ERCA an extended barrel length howitzer can now lob to 43 miles. Their is a German/South African gun that reportedly can do a little better. The Canadians recently supplied Ukraine with both the Excalibur rounds and the Dutch gave a small number of self-propelled howitzers that can use it and now the Germans have too. It can also be used by the towed guns recently supplied by the USA and Canada, but they pale in comparison to the capabilities of the German Panzerhaubitzen 2000 that the Dutch and Germans are supplying (unfortunately in extremely limited numbers). See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_DS6UvZXPo&t=148s
The use and efficiency of these shells in an anti-artillery role by the competing Russian and recently supplied American radar controlled systems that can target and fire on artillery units within seconds of their use may be the knife edge upon which the entire war is determined, -- baring the deployment of western air power, in Ukraine.
To me the most exciting development in this field is that Norway's Nammo has unveiled a potentially revolutionary concept for an air-breathing, ramjet-powered, pseudo-missile that any standard 155mm howitzer can fire at targets more than 60 miles away. This would be a truly great time for Norway, and Nammo to supply the 155s with a shell that can reach out and touch Russian artillery with little or no exposure other than to air to ground or guide missile fire. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vIPNElDkns&t=38s
Estimates by Rand and other think tanks estimate that Russia has already used more than 70% of their advanced guided missiles in Ukraine and they will not be able to replace them in a timely fashion.
To have Russia exchange expensive guided missiles for common towed artillery with uncommon munitions, is not such a bad exchange in a scenario in which missile production is dependent upon tech they may no longer have access to.
In any event, even if Russia should win in Ukraine, and realistically there is very good chance of this, Russia is totally screwed in the long term. See here to find out why Peter Zeihan finds this to be the case in one of his many videos on the Geopop YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPMtmuuVNw&t=176s
As he said, "A hypersonic missile without a nuclear warhead is just a very expensive way to blow up a building." Let's hope they keep up the stupidity they have been exhibiting in this area, with their "terror weapons".
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Bernie $ VS Bloomburg $
Apologies to those who took arithmetic in elementary school. I know you already know this -- even so you may not be able to envision the difference in these fortunes and this explanation may help.
Bernie has a stack of two million one dollar bills that he wants to give to Judy.
Bernie is old and can only give her one dollar each second.
If Bernie is wearing a catheter and doesn't need to go to the bathroom and can hand Judy dollar bills 24 hours a day, 7 days a week: how long will it take Bernie to give Judy his two million dollars?
answer: There are 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hours and 24 hours in a day:
Therefore Bernie can hand Judy 86,400 dollar bills every day. So he can give her $86,000 per day.
So it would take Bernie just about 23 days and three and a half hours to give Judy two million dollars.
(since $86,400 goes into $2,000,000 a little over 23.15 times)
In twenty three days Bernie could hand Judy his two million dollars, one dollar at a time, if he can stay awake,
and he can, cause he is a vastly woke dude.
How long would it take little Mike to hand Judy his 60,2 billion dollars one dollar at a time?
Mike is also old and wearing a catheter, is being fed intravenously and attended by his personal medical staff.
Through the wonders of modern pharmacology and a neural implant he purchased, Mike can also stay awake.
But due to age Mike can also only hand Judy one dollar bill per second.
So Mike, like Bernie can give Judy $86,400 per day.
There are 6,759.26 ($86,400) in 60.2 billion dollars so it would take Mike six hundred and ninety six thousand seven hundred and fifty nine days to hand Judy his 60.2 billion dollars. That's 696,759.26 days.
That many days equals one thousand nine hundred and eight years and a few days short of eight months.
So it would take Mike 1908.93 years to hand Judy all his money (that we know of).
Bernie would be broke in 23 days.
Mike would be broke in 1,909 years.
Who is the oligarch?
Addendum: Please note that since Mike is a capitalist who profits, not from his labor or producing goods but by investment, his wealth will actually be increasing by more than $86,400 per day because of profits on his fortune. So in reality, no matter how many thousands of years he spends handing Judy his money, he would never be able to do it and would always have more to hand her each day than he did the day before.
Addendum PS: Old Jewish wisdom: "Every time somebody makes something for nothing, somebody else makes nothing for something." In Bloomburg's and the other billionares cases this "somebody else" is you and everyone else. If you don't understand this you are truly blind and will never understand why wealth is concentrating in fewer and fewer hands and you are being robbed in ways you neither understand nor can do anything about without a fundamental paradigm shift in our laws, government, and cultural world-view.
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You make the common mistake of equating being stoned on pot with being drunk on booze. Does drinking coffee make you a worse driver? -- No it doesn't -- it is a drug, it has psychological and physiological effects (for those of you who still think there is a distinction there) yet only an idiot would think that drinking coffee causes traffic accidents.
All recreational molecules are not equal. All of their effects are not equal. Some drugs will actually make you able to drive better in some situations. The entire Nazi blitz of WW2 was an intoxicated action with the troops on a amphetamines handed out by their COs. Why do you think that athletes preform better under the influence of certain drugs? Everything is a drug. My words are drugs that are now bringing about an emotional and intellectual effect in you, anger is a drug. It is much more dangerous to drive angry than stoned on pot.
But leave it to the simple minded to reduce everything to the simplistic modes of thinking that they use out of laziness and habit. Then drugs are drugs (except for the coffee, chocolate, sugar, natural flavorings, environmental contaminants, news reports, books, thoughts, environmental toxins and having to deal with imbeciles on a regular basis.)
Didn't you catch on yet. Almost everything that politicians say is a lie to increase or maintain their power. It goes no further than that.
Also the worst people to put in charge of things in the role of a leader are the people who really want to be the leader. They will lead you straight into their own bespoke form of insanity. Wait and see. . . .
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Yeah you realize both the parties are corrupt but you are focusing on the wrong aspect of the problem. You can't destroy this hydra of corruption by attacking one of the heads, you have to destroy the root of the corruption.
Figure out how to make Campaign Finance Reform sexy, and save the nation from the criminal scumbags that are now stealing our nation.
If you have two brain cells to rub together you can figure out that the funding of politics is nothing but a system of corruption that was put in place to steal as much as possible for as long as possible.
A populist movement cannot win as long as the worst among us: the Mercers, Kochs, and Goldman Sachs minions, control everything through a system of corruption that they themselves have devised.
Sure it seems like there are a thousand issues: Trump giving away national assets like Putin did to a bunch of rich unevolved assholes who are proud of their predation upon the populace, and their endless red herrings that get all the single issue voters at one anothers' throats: climate change, fundamentalist morons who think that the world is six thousand years old and will end tomorrow, wars in support of private business interests, wholesale surveillance of the citizens, a ridiculous number of psychopaths with badges who believe they are licensed to kill, etc. etc. etc.
But I am telling you that Robert Mercer understands that the lynch pin of control is campaign finance, that’s why he funds Citizens United, and Britbart, and put Trump in office by giving him key words found by Cambridge Anaylitica to repeat over and over, in near meaningless lies, that the mindless fools that watch and believe Fox News and similar founts of lies were responding to on a limbic level.
He knows that campaign finance is the key to power – do you?
Until this is done, the present plutocratic kleptocracy will swiftly recover from any temporary setbacks, including bids by third parties which they will absorb.
Sorry if it boars you. It’s not up to your opinion, this is the game theory, this is the facts.
Robert Mercer is using the power of Artificial Intelligence against the population and government of the USA to make your voice and vote more meaningless than it already is.
Campaign finance reform must be done, not because it is somebodies interest or pet interest, but because it is the only thing that CAN be done to stop this avalanche of shit the one percent is burying us under.
Goldman Sachs gave the American public a choice in the last election and that choice was, “Would you rather live in shit or piss.” And thanks to 80,000 rust belt fools who were conned by a New York City conman, America chose shit.
And until campaign finance is addressed and totally deprivatized you will only have a choice between shit and piss in all the coming elections. Unless a real populist like Bernie is nominated (don’t hold your breath) as he should have been, and reforms this madness.
The shit we are in now is because of the neoliberal idiots who supported and cheated for Hillary and voted for her in the primary even though all the polls showed Bernie as way more likely to beat Trump than her. Trump knew it, he even said it, Cambridge Anaylitica probably told him, and still the Hillary supporters deny it. As Gurdjieff wrote, “Even God has no defense against stupidity.”
Blessings to those of evolving conscience.
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If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again you woke puddin' heads. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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Until now, Apple, like Telsa, wrote software for specific systems, the architecture and sometimes even the components of which, they designed themselves, typically this cost the consumer a thirty percent premium over the same components or performance of systems from other OEMs or that they built themselves, unlike MIcrosoft, Apple does not have experience writing software that needs to be compatible for a huge number of random systems of different components and different generations of hardware, yet that is what they will have to do to be compatible with the hundreds of different components in various EV configurations from different EV OEMs.
So really Tesla software, written for the specific systems that Tesla designs and builds is more like Apple software for iphones and computers, than Apple software for cars will be. Tesla software for their own cars will have all the advantages that Apple software for their own computer and phone systems had, and Apple software for EVs will not.
But Apple marketing is near diabolical in its effectiveness, so millions will bend over and love doing it. It would be nice if Tesla offered it as an option, then people could decide if it's worth it for themselves.
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@cavalier5727 You don't like what we actually know about the Euopean invasion of the Americas, so there can be no truth in it -- so childish.
The Truth is easy to see. No stone age group has survived intact when it came in contact with a technologically superior culture, with the exception of Sentinal island off the coast of India that has been declared off-limits by the gov of India. You would not want to live there.
Nobody has resisted the truth being brought into light as you say, more than the people who believe a revisionist romantic fantasy of Native American culture and know nothing of the near constant war between various groups, the lack of any meaningful progress in most any area, the brutal torture (usually to death, which is why Native Americans did not surrender in battle) as the rule not the exception for captives and enemies, the delight by women and children in taking part in the torture of captives, the helplessness in the face of pathogens, the self hobbling superstitions taken as fact, which lead to things like the ritual sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of people on an industrial scale, cannabalism, and murderous raiding of civilians as a business model. Or even the fact that most of the Africans taken into captivity were taken by other subsaharan Africans or Muslim slavers. Their real history like that of all peoples includes the brutal and the humane. Instead of the truth the woke puddin'-heads believe in a golden age of noble savage environmentalists that never existed except in their heads and Hollywood. The real history of the European conquest of the Americas is the history of several vastly imperfect and violent cultures in conflict. Just like it happened everywhere else in the world when a technologically or organizationally superior culture came in contact with a primitive one.
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@dieterdietert7232 Only their were not zero casualties. Take Galwan Valley: while soldiers carried firearms, due to decades of tradition designed to reduce the possibility of an escalation, agreements disallowed usage of firearms, but the Chinese side was reported to possess iron rods, clubs and batons wrapped in barbed wire and clubs embedded with nails. Hand-to-hand combat broke out, and the Indian soldiers called for reinforcements from a post about 3.2 kilometres (2 mi) away. Eventually, up to 600 men were engaged in combat using stones, batons, iron rods, and other makeshift weapons. The fighting, which took place in near-total darkness, lasted for up to six hours. Resulting in about twenty deaths on each side and many injuries and later deaths from injuries. I would think it would have been near the same if they held back and shot at each other with small arms across the valley. Later they reinstated the use of firearms.
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@danieldoyle7337 Nice theory, nice narrative, but in the USA the number one news channel, and the number one network overall is Fox News. So all the freedom of choice and information results in the majority of the population choosing the absolute worst source of news that is generally available. A network that lies not just in particular facts, but in the general narrative they present and the matrix of deception that the occasional fact is embedded in. It's not a matter of, "Their system sucks and ours is great." Both systems suck, and the average American's view of what is going on is at least as distorted as the average Chinese view, probably more, because instead of one great edifice of lies, we have a multitude of lying venues, calling each other lairs when in fact, people in America are not interested in the facts if the fact don't support what they like.
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Personally I have nothing against the psychedelic family of recreational molecules.
However for Graham to believe that having an "experience" that is brought about by the ingestion of one or another plant alkaloid, or other external substance, is having a "direct experience" is laughable.
It's obvious from all his hedging about the relative value of drug induced, versus actual experience, that he is deeply confused. Probably because he has never had an actual experience of awakening.
That is the only way that someone could equate a psychedelic experience with higher consciousness brought on through the ignition of natural but latent neural/hormonal systems.
That is the only way that real growth is brought about. If your higher states of consciousness are not accessible to you without a drug, or even the need for another person, then the truth is that you know nothing real or useful about the higher experiences that you are pursuing. So you have to look in all the places that you have been conditioned to look: like ancient civilizations, religions, and drugs and what not. In other words all the wrong places.
Your experiences with DMT though shattering and extremely charged are subjective and meaningless.
The comparison of the natural ignition of these higher human potentials and an experience that is the result of the ingestion of a recreational molecule is tenuous at best. The reality of an actual physical, metabolic awakening, has about the same relationship to drug use as it does to religion or some other spiritual practice. Not quite none, it is true, but the vast majority of comparisons between the two are of no real value and only serve to muddy the situation still further.
Though it is an actual physical substance that is needed to activate an expanded awareness, or if you prefer the imagrery, that is the key to the kingdom: you can only grow that plant in the interface between the repurposing of ancient genetic potenials and the desire to look directly at things, and the love of euphoria, bliss, consciousness, and intelligence. That is why it is necessary to grow in a balanced manner that incorporates both mental, and physical, as well as the so-called emotions and higher emotions.
As Joe mentioned, yoga wouldn't hurt, it would be far more efficacious to find someone who actually can, activate these higher systems within themselves, and interact with them. That may be kind of hard to do. For instance though I have met dozens of highly respected and sometimes worshiped yoga masters and instructors I have never met one that was awake, or that even knew what direction real awakening lies in.
Good luck with that. I can only tell you that waking up naturally is a lot more fun than the advocates of psychedelics like Terence McKenna would have you believe.
While most everything that presents itself as a means to awaken is worse than bullshit, it is actually a waste of time: the inner means of doing so are as fresh as the day they were layed down, in fact in most everyone that remain virginal right onto death.
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No you don't.
There never was a prescription that is written "as needed", you dumba**,
that's just the instructions on how to take your meds that the drugstore prints on the bottle.
If you take that bottle and try to get it refilled without a visit to your doctor, or your doctor lying about a visit and they will tell you it cannot be refilled.
You will have to either have a housecall, be active in a pain management program and visit there before it is refilled, or go to your doctor's office or an emergency room -- every time you need it refilled.
That is the new Federal law, and apparently between yourself and TYT you know nothing about it.
Nevertheless, you managed to make an ass of yourself, by such narcissistic pride of your ignorance.
I actually thought such instant karma was reserved for the far far right, who shoot themselves in the foot almost every time they shoot off their mouths.
Just like you did.
Though they seldom have the perception to be able to realize it without some assistance. Then they get all touchy because another one of their mistakes is to equate ignorance with stupidity.
While it is certainly not true that all conservatives are stupid. Far, far, from it.
All of them are ignorant of just how untrue the facts they base their opinions on are.
For instance, some males on the subcontinent are very conservative regarding the practice of sati, and many of these same conservatives are capable of extreme mental vigor and problem solving abilities, a man can be highly competent in abstract metaphysical cognition, or higher mathematics, and still think that it is a nice tradition for a wife to throw herself, or be thrown by relatives onto the funeral pyre of her husband. Sort of like the people who can honestly lay claim to an IQ higher than a moron, and still support Donald Trump's bid.
Haven't these people ever seen a conman before.
Bernie = statesman
Trump = conman
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Linux user Pure FUD, been debunked years ago by real science. And by the way the batteries are more than 90% recyclable.
You are way behind the times, quoting ten year old concerns that were not true even then.
Here is the most important thing for you to understand, because without understanding it, you fall prey to all kinds of partisan disinformation from unions and autodealership associations, and big oil, but mostly from commercial media. Who feels Tesla is stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from them for not paying the ad vig like all the other OEMs have to.
Tesla does not advertise. Therefor when one Tesla catches fire when some drunk drives it into a tree at 90mph it is in the news for weeks, on an hourly basis, while the the 350 deaths every year from the 185,000 gas cars that catch fire in the USA, gets no mention anywhere ever.
Duped you are.
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Politics sucks ass. Isn't it apparent to everyone by now that our political system is an archaic artifact? An artifact based on humanities inability to escape it's bestial warlike nature . . . :campaigns, winner take all victories, leaders who neither lead (excepting the advancement of the concerns of their patrons) nor have the wisdom to make intelligent impartial decisions on the issues of the day. This political web of deceit is a self-perpetuating parasite that warps collective social culture and is itself continually warped due to shameful self-interested exploitation by those who control the economy through control of debt manipulation. Interests and principalities that spew false narratives which have contaminated every aspect of our expectations of daily life, and our future aspirations (or lack of them).
I suggest to you that there are other alternatives. Far more efficient alternatives, that would benefit the whole of society and reduce the corruption that is not only a systemic disease of our political system, but is now the very sinew, marrow, and circulatory system, of a body politic that has done everything possible to free itself from both morality and justice through legislative and legal complexities, technicality, outright lies, and all manner of fuckery.
It is time to evolve folks. Like a cool pool on a hot day, once you take the plunge it's refreshing and rejuvenating, but before you take that plunge there is hesitation and a resistance to a state change. And we must change the state of our state unless we consider moving into the future by looking through a rear-view mirror and stepping on our own dicks every step of the way while perpetually bitiching about it to be some kind of desirable human prerogative. Because as it is, it will never be able to meet our real human needs or provide anything more than updated reruns of the same old conundrums.
If human culture and civilization is to advance it must evolve to a higher state, a higher system of state, which will nurture higher states of mind in the populace, not continually drag it back by aggravating the primal survival instinct in a technological environment wherein this instinct is counterproductive on numerous levels.
I suggest to you that a body politic based on a NeoConfusian Techno-Meritocracy would not only be vastly superior for the state of the state, state of the economy, state of human advancement, and our collective state of mind, that any comparison to the present drunken-knife-fight-in-a-gilded-bordello that passes for our government would be comical.
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I would be interested in your assessment of the various studies that claim a genetic mutation that prevents the Inuits from going into ketosis.
My casual perusal seemed to indicate that there is some kind of mutation that took place, though it seems that now the validity of the methodology of the blood tests that were used to determine this is in some question.
Also it seemed that some of the studies indicate a condition that prevents them from transitioning to ketosis merely from low/no carbs, but that they could still go into ketosis is they fasted.
The whole thing seemed inconclusive, which left me wondering if some party had an interest in keeping this matter in doubt.
They also indicated that the Inuits actually ate more carbs than was first believed and this kept them from ketosis.
To me, if it were actually true that the Inuit, in their traditional life, had developed such a genetic mutation, this would settle this entire matter, as to the long term viability of ketosis. It would also settle the matter of low carb, carnivore, vs med, plant based -- once and for all: for those who understood the implications of natural selection selecting against long term ketosis.
Perhaps though, the moment has been lost along with the traditional sequestered life style of the Inuit, and if the data we have is questionable it may be too late to ever learn the conclusion to this debate that life itself had selected. I would be most interested in any view you had on this matter.
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What you do not seem to understand is that despite the grandfatherly patients, sensitivity, and aged issues, Joe spent his childhood in the hard coal region of PA. A bar on every corner (at the time) and lots of drunk, angry, miners in them, many of whom still had jobs, and lots, I mean lots of demented abused kids on the street, just waiting for an opportunity to kick ass for fun or profit. So what?
"Nobody fucks with a Bidden." -- Joey B.
Now I personally do not agree with much of Bidden' political shenanigans, which are largely symbolic in effect, but serve to alienate the more sane portion of the so-called conservatives (actually right-wing radicals these days). He is a very successful politician, which means many things, including that he is a liar.
But the key point is that his decisions whether right (as in support for Ukraine) or wrong (In his posturing against the only successful new American auto company in a hundred years, and attributing their achievements to the unionized traditional OEMs that are struggling to evolve.) At least his decisions are based on reason, even if at times those reasons are political. He may not be able to count on the anti-Trump vote if Trump loses in the primary (not likely). But if Trump does run again, most people will hold their noses and vote for Joe again.
If the Republicans manage to shut off the funding of Ukraine, and the Europeans do not take up the slack, one of the most effective means of reducing the power of rule by totalitarian methods, which are always against the evolution of civilization and humans, will have been squandered.
The far reaching effects of the undermining of the significance of real facts as opposed to right-wing fancy and fantasy as the means by which the billionaire Robert Mercer (the REAL money behind Trump and the chaos brought on by denial of reality by right-wing nuts and fanatics) could decrease his tax burden.
Not the first time a New York City conman (Donny) pulled the wool over the eyes of a bunch of small town rubes, and it won't be the last. But, "Fool me once, shame on you. . ." -- Now we will see if all the "small-town rubes" who loved Trump have been fooled once, or if they actually are fools.
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@paultorbert6929 So it would seem.
It was never stated in the original remark that "the universe" is ONLY a concept.
Common sense would infer that our ideas about the universe refer to something "out there", separate and distinct from our subjective associations regarding it.
Common sense also infers that the sun orbits he earth.
I may be incorrect, but I think that the problem people are having with my original statement is that they do not know what the word "fungible" means.
Consider this (for the moment considering the "multiverse" as another word for an expanded conception of the same thing) the "universe", as the word is commonly understood, is: everything considered as one thing.
First we have the universe of everything, next you propose a "universe" minus it's most significant quality: life.
Therefore according to the assumption that makes your question possible you refer to two quite distinct things as the universe: the universe that is everything and a universe minus life. This question in itself proves that though you may not realize it, you consider the universe to be a concept that is fungible. That is: a universe minus life can stand-in for a universe consisting of everything.
Yet the universe minus anything would not be the universe would it?
This is not even to examine the lack of actual knowledge about the real significance and magnitude of life.
We do not know if life on earth is the only life, and there is a very good possibility that it is.
We do not even know if the universe itself is alive on a scale that is beyond our present perception, though there are many various concepts that claim it is, and this would explain a lot.
We do not know if life as it is automatically and commonly conceived of even exists.
We do not know how the functioning of quantum mechanics would be altered without any observer.
We do not even know if life and the apparent perception of a universe "out there" is a simulation.
So we do not even know what is meant by a "universe without any life".
Yet you still refer to it as "the universe". Which once again proves my original statement that the universe is a concept and as such is infinitely fungible.
It can be one thing, It can be more than one thing. As it is a concept that is enormously ambiguous, and serves mainly as a conceptual black box for cosmological theories.
Would there be anything without life? . . . Maybe.
Would it be "the universe"?
The question doesn't really even make sense. Who would there be to refer to it as such? The universe is a concept that mankind made up and uses. It has changed with our knowledge, it will continue to change as our perceptual and conceptual capabilities change in many ways, many different ways by many different minds. It is fungible.
Is there a universe that is separate from our conceptions of it?
Strictly speaking, no, not if the universe is held to be EVERYTHING, because our conceptions are physical just as our emotions are physical, and if the universe is held to be everything, then if you take everything and subtract a part of it that you do not even know the significance or magnitude of; it is no longer everything, and cannot be accurately referred to as "the universe".
On the other hand since the universe is a concept and it is fungible you are certainly free to conceptualize it in a manner in which your question appears to make sense. This is because the universe is a concept and as such is infinitely fungible.
If any further comments portray the inability to comprehend the preceding they will go without further response.
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I am a Tesla investor and was proud of it, until Elon began to spread idiotic disinformation and partisan spin and lies through X.
X is a cesspool from what I see of it and yet people pay to do on X what is free elsewhere on the net.
Elon is definitely intelligent enough to see that Trump is a monumental A hole. So the question is: What is the purpose of Elon's inane action, in supporting him. Like his trumpeting of the need for "Free Speech, which is really the support for the deluge of lies and conspiracy theories that has taken over social media.
But Elon is in a position where he will soon be able to control the social dialogue with an unprecedented power never before seen on earth. The combination of X and XAI will allow him to almost take over the social media discourse for hundreds of millions of people.
This whole championing of free speech by him is really a Trojan horse, by which he is championing the right to lie through the media, because that is what he intends to do with it: make his political lies a reality on a scale that the foremost liar of our times -- Trump -- can only dream of.
Too bad about Musk, the power has finally corrupted him, and he only wants more of it. Him referring to himself as Darth MAGA at the Trump rally where he danced around like a fool was all too accurate, and probably something he intended as an insult to the intelligence of the very people who believe his nonsense.
Despite this I intend to buy another Tesla because he only owns 14% of the company, is a great manager when it comes to manufacturing and growing Tesla, but he has become corrupted by power as do all humans. I had actually expected better from him.
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Concerning Iowa: We will figure out exactly how they cheated, then we will figure out the next way that they cheated, and the one after that, and so on: with a factual and rational narrative about the qualities of people who would do such things. We will even say, "They said it couldn't happen here.": out of ironic gallows humor. Maybe at times their cheating will be so outrageous that hundreds of thousand of people will march or occupy something, but amazingly, almost miraculously Mitch and Lindsey, and the rest of Caligula JR's little unholy Greek chorus will retain their offices, and they will go on cheating and bullying and claiming that the law is what ever they think it is at the moment. And we will figure it all out.
And you will make it funny and entertaining.
But now we have reached a point in politics where: as in the attempt to transcend one's own habitual mode of mental functioning: knowing doesn't matter. You may know that the associative functioning of the thought-centric mind is mechanical, but that doesn't transcend or transform anything.
So it is with our political system.
We have known forever that it would be best to get all money out of politics if the most ethical and fair government is what you want. We have known forever that proportional representation is superior to winner-takes-all seesaws. We have known that the banks are incapable of regulating themselves and that the wealth of the nation is being sucked up by the military industrial professional political worker complex, that the drug war is a farce that has created the first billionaire criminal organizations. In our hollowed out lives, news has become entertainment. And the fantasyland they present to the public is a poor substitute for what should have been the golden destiny of mankind on earth and in regions beyond.
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Yeh, he got to be the richest man in the history of the world, made the whole EV thing possible, landed the first rocket, is the only US company that can service the space station, is opening up the entire world to internet via the largest network of sattelites, builds the cars with the most American content and labor, is developing some of the most advanced AI infrastructure on earth, and has the biggest most powerful machine capable of interplanetary flight ever built sitting at a space port he built, because of his poor judgement. You must have done much more, a lot better -- aye?
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@StephieGsrEvolution How do I catalogue your errors, let me count the ways. Well, i am not a libertarian. I absolutely do understand capitalism. You may ascribe all the distasteful aspects of collective human behavior to a particular economic system but that would be naive and simply simplistic. I could for instance point out that the most heinous acts of the power elite in history were the acts of self-declared anti-capitalist leaders like Stalin and Mao who together murdered about a hundred million of their own people, with no capitalism involved. I could point out that the most desirable countries to live in are all socialist in government, but rely on controlled capitalist segments of their society to fund the whole shebang, like in Denmark, Norway, and their ilk.
Or I could point out the failure of all modern nations that deplored capitalism. Or that until it embraced the capitalist dynamic the people of China periodically ate tree bark or each other.
I could perhaps point out that there are no purely capitalist countries. I could point out that markets predate even the idea of capitalism by thousands of years, yet those countries that thrived did so because of markets. I could point out that even though the Spanish empire literally owned a mountain made of silver it was superseded by the Netherlands, merely because the Netherlands developed a stock market.
But before I go on to great extent, I think anybody with a bit of perception and perspective could easily see the fact that blaming the manifestation of negative human behaviors on an economic system is naive and simplistic and anyone with two neurons to rub together can see that historically they have been there all along, no matter the economic systems in play.
I further see in your response that you have absolutely no idea what I was indicating by the words RetroConfucian TechnoMeritocracy.
But carry on with your partisan narrative, it is no better or worse than most of the disinformation out there. Or better yet, develop a viable alternative that will actually work. I have one, but like your response has indicated, with those whom can only look at the future through a rear-view mirror: really new ideas will not fly. Mainly because they think they already know what they are, without understanding them in the least. (Apologizes Marshal M.)
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"Weapons of War" . . . No country I am aware of arms it's military with semi-automatic firearms. So your entire thought process is faulty to begin with.
No one uses firearms similar to those that would be banned, or bought back, in their military.
They are not weapons of war. An apache gunship is a weapon of war. An a-10 warthog is a weapon of war. An m4 carbine is a weapon of war. Oh it looks a lot like an AR15 -- the only difference is in the function -- DUHHHH. . . .
An AR15 is a sporting firearm. Depending on the calibre it may be a legal hunting firearm. It fires one shot each time you pull the trigger. An m4 fires many shots if you hold the trigger down. An AR15 does not do this. That is all the difference.
There are tens of thousands of legal registered machine guns in civilian hands in the USA and there has never been a crime committed with any of them.
Switzerland has real weapons in the homes of many citizens. full automatic weapons, yet -- no massacres.
Could it be that crazy individuals who want to kill a bunch of people will find a way? I think so.
In a strange way, using a firearm both localizes and announces such events -- most of the time. Whereas some self assumed evil genius type could kill loads of people and never be found out. Or some stooge would take the fall, cause the police needed to make a show.
Anyhow, you do know that the extreme right-wing, is extremely armed. I mean they have weapons hidden that will never be confiscated. So many that if you really knew about it, it would give you nightmares.
So if that is what you want, for an armed ultra right wing, and the impossibility of defending yourself against them, or the government:. then the whole gun-control narrative makes sense.
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@tigran56 Peck is certainly lying throughout the whole of his documentaries. These are lies of omission.
The Europeans triumphed over these cultures largely by strength of arms and other technological means, and of course the microbes to which they had no immunity and which are estimated to have killed between 50 and 90 percent of the native population of the Americas, but the barbarism was common to both victor and the defeated, Though he pointedly never points this out.
Many of the native tribes that reemerged after the fall of the huge mound building civilizations (which fell before the tidal European engagement in the Americas) learned horsemanship and became warrior cultures. Their prime means of survival was raiding each other and the Spanish colonies. They were certainly more warlike than the respective European countries of the time, but lacked only the means of totally destroying one another, because, but for the adoption of European advancements they only had stone age techniques of murdering, enslaving, and making war. The entire documentary series is rife with a twisted narrative that ignores the evils of man, such as the Moslem slavers that took more slaves than England, Spain, and Portugal combined, and were far more murderous toward them. I just don't have the time to go through this point by point, but anyone that is really interested can read about what we actually know, without the bias present in Peck, and find out that almost every sentence he utters is misleading because of PREJUDICE against European civilization and the failure to describe all the other things taking place in the world at the same time by other cultures. Lets take one example from history then I am done. During the American Revolutionary War, more continental soldiers died in prison ships in New York harbor than died on the battle field. About fifty percent of the prisoners died. However in the perpetual wars and raiding of one Indian tribe by another, virtually 100 percent of the prisoners died, and in fact were commonly tortured to death as community entertainment. So as brutal as the English may have been, they lagged behind the Native American warrior cultures. And by the way, it is naive to think that the British were the only culture that considered themselves to be the apex of civilization while employing devilish actions. All cultures did this. It is the common human condition of the power elites. It is this blairingly obvious fact that is completlely ignored in these documentries which are just a bunch of crap compared to a real understanding of what we actually know of history. But no doubt that will not matter at all to most of a particular inane ANTI bent. Why bother to study when you can just believe what you want to. Isn't this just exactly what he appears to be striving against? Consider his own personal history growing up in one failed black governed state after another. Peck is a little man of little mind and even less truth.
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@tigran56 You project too much into what you read. All people develop the military technology they are capable of. This has been the case since the Assyrians formed the first professional armies and attacked and dominated their neighbors. I never said that the Europeans were the greatest versions of humanity. I never assumed any of the attitudes you project onto me. I am simply stating the obvious. What is verifiable fact, as opposed to the false dichotomies that Peck evokes? It is quite notable that you could not find fault with the actual facts I conveyed but instead had to assume a bunch of nonsense about attitudes I neither hold nor have in any manner conveyed. This is typical of people who are immune to facts because of the beliefs they hold. Like Trump supporters who refuse to admit that Biden won the election, so are the woke puddin' heads who refuse to acknowledge the relative barbarism of all cultures and insist on judging peoples who struggled in past centuries because they did not hold post sixties progressive attitudes. Your talk of supremism is absolute nonsense when seen in the light that almost every primitive tribe refers to themselves as "The Real People, The Chosen People, The Human Beings", and various terms that discriminate against others and hold themselves out as special. This is common to all cultures, even to high schools and any group that needs to feel cohesive in the face of any type of opposition.
And I repeat, it is quite telling that you cannot find a valid argument against the historic influences that I have only hinted at. Like Peck naming the crusades as the first white supremacist act, when they invaded Moslem lands. Of course he fails to point out they these were not always Moslem lands and had been taken by force of arms from the previous inhabitants who were mostly Sasanids, and Christians. The remnants of the Parthian and Eastern Roman Empire, and of course the Christian remnants of the Germanic tribes that had destroyed the western Roman Empire and settled in northern Africa, and even Greek remnants of Alexanders conquests -- as was the case for centuries in Egypt.
It is also telling that you find the recounting of relevant facts tedious, long winded, and European. How typical of attitudes based on fantasy that must uphold themselves somehow, and can't really deal with the reality of the situation under scrutiny.
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@brianhale3678 There is no need for ten commandments, just one prime directive -- . . . if you are sane: don't do shit to other people that you wouldn't want them to do to you.
However if you are actually insane, but people can't tell that because many of them suffer from the same delusions: then it gets complicated. If you are older than ten and you can't tell that no religion is literally true, guess which group you are in?
What possible sense would it make for a loving god to demand a blood sacrifice if he were omnipotent?
Let me help you with that -- none.
Where did the whole insane idea of sacrificial offering come from? Let me help you with that. They originated in the knowledge that when a predator got hold of one individual of a herd, or group, the rest of it was temporarily safe. And of course the various leaders of this insane mime (god-kings, priest, various holly men, and preachers) encouraged it so that they could control and profit from such puddin' headed beliefs.
Yes, that is correct, if you, or anyone, actually believes that what you have written is true, you are a brain-washed, cowardly puddin' head, who makes a mockery of the divine. Hopefully mankind will evolve beyond the condition of believing nonsense because they are conditioned in youth, or simple minded, or fearful of confronting the reality of their imminent death.
You're welcome.
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I own several Chinese EV OEMS, but I am aware that China has major problems, both domestically, and geopolitically. The end of the Chinese miracle is clearly in sight. They are basically screwed no matter how you look at it. And their policies are so stupid.
They don't have and haven't been able to develop a vaccine that works, so they have to enforce a zero tolerance program that shuts down industry. And the truth is they probably started the whole thing in one of their labs.
Now they are backing Russia, whose actions are going to lead directly to China not being able to get enough petroleum to continue on course, and what they do get will be at a high price.
China is totally dependent on it's adversaries for it's prosperity, and on the middle east for it's oil, and even if it made a full transition to EVs and nuclear and solar, it needs petrol for it's industrial base stocks. No petrol, no plastic, no plastic, no manufacturing of most every consumer good, from clothing to iphones, to EVs.
And this is not even considering that all it's oil has to pass through choke points controlled by it's enemies.
Then there is the demographic time bomb, which is just beginning to hit. Masses of old people with no social security net, and very few young people to man the factories and take care of them. Demographics do not lie. It's now or never for China because in a decade or so it is so screwed.
Maybe the Tesla bot will save them, lol.
Their fearless leader has no idea what is really happening in his own country because he has shot the messenger so many times.
I like many are counting on China in the short term, but now with the Ukraine thing and the possibility of a shut down in Russian oil that will deplete the world oil supply even the mid term is very shaky.
Consider this: the pipelines from Russia to Europe run through Ukraine, lets say they are destroyed by the war, or by sabotage: it's not a matter of shut it down and start it back up. The last time Russia had to shut down the pipelines so the system would not self destruct because of over-pressure it took nearly thirty years to get everything running again, and this was only possible because of western expertise and management. These western experts are no longer in Russia. If the pipeline is shut down, which it will have to be, if either it is disrupted by violence or if Germany decides to no longer pay for the war by buying Russian gas and oil, according to Peter Zehan it will take a minimum of ten years to get it running again.
In case you are unaware, there is no viable pipeline from Russia to China. China gets it's oil by supertanker form the middle east. It cannot get it by supertanker from Russia. There are no deep water ports to use. They would have to use small ships and off load to super tankers in NATO territorial waters and that ain't gonna happen.
Just some word of warning about overoptimism on a long term future prosperity for China. Unless of course the Tesla bot saves them form themselves. Which actually could happen.
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Below is from the actual FDA regulations regarding honey. You are totally incorrect in this. And therefore none of your information is truly above suspicion.
What enforcement authorities does FDA have for food products
that are
represented solely as “honey,” but contain other ingredients?
FDA’s enforcement authorities for food products that are represented as “honey,” but
contain other ingredients, are described below.
Case A
: A product is labeled as “honey,” but it contains natural raspberry flavoring. The
ingredient statement lists only “honey.”
According to section 403(i) of the FD&C Act, a food is misbranded unless the label
bears
: (1) the common or usual name of the food, if there be any;
and (2) the common or
usual name of each ingredient, if the food is made from two or more ingredients.
In this
case, the name of the food
, “honey
,” does not accurately describe that the food is a
raspberry
-flavored honey, so “honey”
is not an appropriate common or usual name under
21 CFR 102.5(a). Moreover, the ingredient statement lists only one ingredient, “honey,”
wh
ile the food contains “honey” and “natural flavoring
.” Therefore, the product
fails to
satisfy the requirements under 21 CFR 101.4(a)(1) and section 403(i)(2) of the FD&C
Act
, and FDA would consider such product to be
misbranded.
Case B
: A product is labeled as “honey,” but it contains honey and another sweetener,
such as sugar or corn syrup. The ingredient statement lists only “honey.”
Under section 402(b) of the FD&C Act, a food is adulterated if any valuable constituent
has been omitted in whole or in part
, if any substance has been substituted wholly or in
part,
or i
f any substance has been added so as to reduce the quality of the food or make it
appear to be better or of greater value than it is.
In this case, the food is represented as
honey when another sweetener (e.g., sugar or corn syrup) has been substituted in part for
honey. Products that contain only honey
and no other ingredients are
considered more
valuable than a food that contains both honey and sugar or
both honey and corn syrup.
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Therefore, we would consider such product
adulterated under section 402(b)(1) of the
FD&C Act because a valuable constituent (honey) has been omitted in part
; under section
402(b)(2) of the FD&C Act
, because a substance (sugar or corn syrup) has been
substituted in part
; and/or under section 402(
b)(4) of the FD&C Act
, because a substance
(sugar or corn syrup) has been added to the honey so as to increase its bulk or weight or
make it appear better or of greater value than it is.
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Honey is more valuable than other sweeteners. See “Sugar and Sweeteners Yearbook Tables,” United States
Department of Agriculture Economic R
esearch Service. 2017
. Available at:
https://www.ers.usda.gov/data
-
products/sugar
-and
-sweeteners
-yearbook
-tables.aspx
.
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Further, we
would consider such food misbranded under section 403 of the FD&C Act
due to improper labeling of the food:
i.e.
, the name of the food and the ingredient
statement (see Case A and Q&A 5
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@ Danford Smith: The words and common conceptions of consciousness and other words like spiritual are frequently used to by people to appear as if they understand things that they don't. They are both quite ambiguoius terms to begin with. Take your implication that consciousness is somehow synonimous with thinking. Many people would disagree with that and tell you that in their opinion consciousness is the matrix in which thinking takes place. Some would even tell you that consciousness and thinking are in opposition in that thinking is sequential and associative while consciousness is not either of these. Some would tell you there is a difference between consciousness and self-consciousness as it is generally referred to, as in, "the boy was so shy and self-conscious that he found it impossible to approach a woman." Some would tell you that consciousness is an emergent function that only developed because it had profound survival advantages. Others would tell you that animals are conscious in that they are perceptive and that consciousness was just an adjunct of perception known as apperception. Carlos Dwa would tell you,
"The inherent deception in all conceptions of consciousness
is the suffix "ness".
This is sometimes referred to as the "ness" lock monster."
And because of these two lines, I kinda think that Dwa knows more about this slippery notion of consciousness than all the rest put together. But then that's just me.
And then of course there is the always (well really sometimes much more than others) popular Cosmic Consciousness, Christ Consciousness, Higher Consciousness
Expanded Consciousness, Enhanced Consciousness, and all manner of the like, and in opposition to them is the quite resourceful and adaptable Consensus Consciousness, Mundane Consciousness, and Walking Around Consciousness -- frequently referred to by those in the know as "sleep" which as it happens is pretty much unconscious pretty much most of the time. I think Dwa got it right, there are things that are conscious but there is nothing real that the noun consciousness represents. There is conscious but no consciousness, the whole idea is just blatant social climbing by cellular aggregates : )
Or could be that the subconscious or unconscious just needed someone to keep it company and to blame for it's bone-headed mistakes.
Could be the magical term of the moment that means so much that it is meaningless.
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@donHooligan Why would I, I gave up all meat and dairy to help the planet and I love meat, seafood, and especially ice cream. Haven't had any for thirty years and I am the most healthy seventy year old I know. And I am totally convinced that it is the reason that I can still keep it up all night at my age. I drive an EV despite the fact that I love sports cars. I only use clean energy and little of it. I kayak to work (just kidding, but I can drop in twenty feet from my back door.) And I post things like this on a continual basis just so people have some facts to make a decision on. That would be stuff like this:
The biggest single factor in climate change is the generation of greenhouse gases. Far more greenhouse gases are produced by animal agriculture than any other source (87% by animal ag as compared to 13% by all other sources: cars, planes, electric plants, etc.: combined) The focus on burning fossil fuels is important, but diversionary. Animal agriculture is the elephant shi$$ing in the room, and it includes the massive burning of fossil fuels in it's production and transport technologies. The most important thing a person can do to address climate change, as an individual, is to stop buying the products of animal agriculture, such as meat, dairy products (no Ben and Jerry's does not get a pass) leather goods, and furs. If enough people do this, we will survive, if not, our grandchildren will be forced to decide if they should eat their babies in the hope of surviving a few more weeks when crops fail globally. That's the choice: do we indulge our blind instinctive desires and rationalize them with self-centered reactive opinions, or do we leave future generations a planet worth living on? Or do we just go on fruitlessly bitching about the injustice of things, and put off acting until it's beyond too late. My personal bet is that the vast majority of us, even if convinced of the dire reality of the global climate situation, will go on with our rapacious lifestyles unabated. Even so, those are the facts. Now -- are we rational moral beings, or just mad machines that really have no control over ourselves?
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Blinding flash of the obvious: People are motivated to become police because they like to push people around and do not want to have to pay the natural consequences, and they don't really want to work, like a roofer or delivery guy which is about what most police qualify for as far as intelligence and education (in the USA).
The police problem is much deeper than you address, but the issue you discuss is the bed rock of a rotten system, designed to alienate teens and create an ongoing population of people who detest the hypocrisy of the law as it really functions, and place police in an adversarial relationship to the public.
With the exception of the PA state police, who have always behaved professionally in my experience, every cop I have ever run into (on duty) was basically an authoritarian personality who did not give a shit about truth or facts, and when I was a teenagers several just totally made up traffic charges against me, because my car was too cool and my girlfriend too hot. So this was their petty way of trying to bring me down.
When I was growing up, most of the police in my hometown actually walked beats and several refused to wear firearms (not because they were wimps). Now in the same small town, the police are militarized, if you do not come to a complete stop, for instance, three squad cars will be involved in your ticketing, and all the while, police who are no longer community residents, but outsiders, act in a totally obnoxious manner, such as shinning their spot lights in your rear view mirrors to blind you while you are searching for your documents. If their obnoxious behavior is questioned the will reply that it is for their own protection.
I will note that no policeman has ever been attacked or harmed in this small PA town, ever, and the truth of the matter is that a job as a Amazon delivery driver is twice as dangerous as the average police job and that of a roofer is four time more dangerous, yet they manage to do their jobs without acting like teenage morons.
God help the person who does not submit to every order by these guys, at the very least they will find themselves owning hundreds and hundreds of dollars for fines of violations that are totally contrived, or like some have found out, if the authority of these maniacs that use their petty authority to aggrandize their egos is questioned they may be beaten to a pulp and then told that if they say anything they will be charged will all manner of crimes.
I personally have had police just make-up evidence and lie on the stand against me for things like pot possession in the seventies and driving offenses in the sixties at least four times in my short seventy three years on the planet. On the other hand, I have never needed a cop for anything, and anytime I reported a theft or vandalism, nothing was done about it. So over a lifetime of observation, I would say that you are totally correct: the police we have are with few exceptions, the wrong types for the job.
Nothing will ever be done about this, because the current is in the other direction. Police are far more "equal" than the average person, and can literally murder people and get away with it almost all of the time. This is what the power elite wants. They do not want a bunch of helpful public servants, they want people who will not hesitate to kill on command. And these bastards are interchangeable, a cop in the Kremlin is no more an asshole than a cop in Waco and possibly less of one. A lot of them just want to shoot someone, to give them psychological satisfaction and release. They are so more than equal that killing one of their dogs is treated like killing a human, and they will murder you is you try to defend yourself from a K9 attack. This is not conjecture it is the state of affairs.
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Yep, there is lots of that going around. You have my sympathy. I know what it's like to live in pain, and I know what it's like to die in pain, as I watched a beloved great aunt die of leukemia, in agony, while her care takers and sisters refused to give her the pain meds that her doc had prescribed, because they were afraid she would get addicted. Can you imagine the stupidity, they knew she was dying and they were afraid she would get addicted. That shows you how brainwashed the previous generation was, but now the government is taking up the stupidity slack.
I don't have time to look into it, but if you do, I think you will find that it was not Obama who got these laws passed. There was a period when the CDC was accepting testimony and suggestions on pain meds, but I think congress passed the law.
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Dan Dennet and some of his atheist associates have been backing the hypothesis that a course in comparative religion, taught at the high school level, would quite painlessly lead to lots less true believers. Personally I believe it would be more effective to teach it during grade-school then again in a more sophisticated form in high school. This would allow kids to ridicule the various lies of other religions in the fun yet direct way that only kids have. Then as they get the influx of hormones and become teens, they can turn this sense of irony and humor on their parents religion, should they be so unlucky as to be stuck with some kind of fundamentalist parents.
It is really too bad that humans generally equate a native sophistication and depth of their quite physical limbic system, with what they refer to as "spiritual" and about which, similar to the dynamics of the more recent use of the word "consciousness" anyone can say any kind of nonsense and there is a good chance no one will call them out on their ignorance.
Here is a fun fact to confront a true believer in the Bible with.
For all intents and purposes, the current actions of ISIL are near identical to the actions taken by the ancient "Israelites" I think the man's name was Joshua, and if memory serves, when he moved against his neighbors, the Israelites would slay all the men, sell the women into slavery, and take the virgin girls for brides. And of course take their land and possessions, but sometimes the madness even extended to killing all the animals.
They, like ISIL, said that God told them to do it.
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Democracy Now is Consistently the most coherent and courageous voice in the legitimate news media. We are all waiting for the next 9/11 that these retrograde de-evolutionary anti American bastards who wrap themselves in the flag will pull. Let's use the power of Deep MInd to destroy them this time. As Robert Mercer is using the power of AI to destroy us, so that he and the Koch brothers don't have to pay taxes on their booty. These idiot savants are replacing a golden future of humanity that is near at hand, with their own insane and inane vision. Campaign Finance is the lynch pin. Mercer knows that and that is why he attacked you by decreasing your political value by backing such scams as Citizens United and the hydra of fake institutions that spread his poison. As long as they maintain the present system of legalized corruption of our elections through campaign contributions and actions that would be illegal had not these same interests changed the laws to make their criminal activities legal. It's time to cut through all this, they can deflect us endlessly with the incredible wealth that they have actually stolen from each and every one of us, and brainwashed the dimmer among us to fight in their behalf. They are masters of the illusion of legitimate power, anddo have some power, as long as they can pay gunmen, enough to overcome their qualms about shooting their own, or just hire psychopaths who see a police career as a way to exercise their desire to kill and destroy others without the natural consequences. All money must be taken out of politics. It is not normal to believe that someone who seeks a position of power is a good person. The worst persons seek power, the best have to be dragged to it.
Why do so many think that leaders should be revered? Look at all those glowing faces in Trumps crowds, some of them weren't paid, aren't millionaire thieves who will personally benefit from his kleptocracy and are cheering against their own best interests. Yes a lot of them are stupid, and that is why we have Trump, stupid people along with everyone else was given a choice by Goldman Sach in the last election, and that choice was, "Would you rather live in piss or shit?", and they chose shit.
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I know that the unenlightened have a bunch of rules that they have made up regarding how someone who has awakened should behave.
Since there is no chance that anyone will come to know who I am, I am unconcerned with these "guidelines".
I did not say that psychedelic drugs can never be of any benefit to an individual. They may, They may not.
I simply said that psychedelic experiences are not the same as a true awakening. They simply are not. I have experienced plenty of psycho active drugs back in the sixties and seventies especially, and I would have believed that an experience of awakening would be similar, in fact I did believe that for a decade or so, until I found out in quite spectacular fashion that they are not nearly the same thing. Not even close, not even in the same world.
Of course as to whether or not I knowist of whence I speak, that is something that will be determined in the mind of the reader of this little note. If you like what I am saying you will believe it, if not you won't. The human mind is really as simple as that in regards to such matters.
But rather than going on about my own experience in such matters, which I can bring about without drugs, now very easily and which resemble psychedelic experiences only in the degree to which they are different than the stupor that is commonly referred to as waking consciousness, rather than that I will simply quote one of my favorite authors on the subject -- Carlos Dwa
Of Molecules and Men
As is evident to anyone who has the feel for what has gone on in the so to say “new-age” movement – (for want of a better moniker) for what was largely the fall-out from a tidal influx of psychedelic availability to college and high-school students, eventually resulted in a glut of seekers of one stripe or another. People who were convinced that there was something beyond the consensus parallax of the herd, of the rigidly controlled national mass media (admittedly there were many more independent and mom and pop newspapers and radio stations compared to today, where clear channel and other corporations, like Fox and GE own almost all the significant media venues, but such is not the topic under scrutiny just now.)
For the first time in the history of mankind, that is recorded, we had large numbers of persons with little or no pertinent frame of reference, or preparation, and sometimes not even a salubrious setting in which to undertake such a voyage into the unknown, blasting themselves (ready or not) into intense psychedelic experiences. Of course there was the corporate media's disinformation about the whole scene: sort of an unholy melange of predatory capitalism and psychotic projection of the unconscious fear of seeing oneself without all the comfy civilized buffers they had erected. And there was a social reaction that was out of all proportion to the danger posed by such psychoactive substances. Or as Leary observed, “LSD is a psychoactive compound capable of causing psychotic reactions in persons who have never taken it.” Of course mankind had traditionally used recreational molecules for more serious purposes, no need to get into the living ethnobotanical information systems to be found in the mosaic of brujos and their apprentices, or the mystics and their secret rites and mystery schools, sometimes something real for their respective culture was to be found in them, sometimes not.
Many of the people who's lives were impacted by the consumption of the psychedelics, realized at some point, that though they did indicate latent potentials within man, they were in themselves a dead-end, other than for intermittent recreational use. But many people continued to believe that the states offered by various psychotropic compounds reflected unused potentials within the human organism.
There are many different informed opinions, such as that of Alexander Shulgin the rediscovered of Ecstasy and a former lead chemist for Dow who has had a decades long study and has tested hundreds of different psychoactive compounds legally on human subjects, his theory is that: since the metabolic pathways that these molecules activate are present, but the substances themselves are for the most part missing (of course DMT has been found in all body tissues, but in very low doses, well below the threshold of notice) Alexander contends that these compounds are something that humans used to be able to produce but they have lost the capacity and are no longer able to make them.
There are other views on why this is the case, my view is that we are still able to produce them, under the right conditions, with the requisite intention and know-how (a very peculiar kind of know-how since there are no words or thoughts involved in either the knowing or the practical application of what is “known”.
But even this, is not our stop on this gorgeous Saturday afternoon.
But I almost spoke too soon, because here is our stop now. We are wondering, well some of us are, just what is the relationship between some of the stronger, more archetypical psychedelics, and the living expression of enhanced consciousness that arrives without the use of external molecules?
I mean there must be something there right? (this is a rhetorical question, not an affirmation).
Thousands of people have written about the similarities of psychedelic experiences and the classic descriptions of the enlightened mind (forgive the apparent oxymoron).
I could say something like, “I suggest to you. . .” to sound more politically correct. It hardly seems worth it, and for those for whom this description is anything more than an amusing novelty, it is totally unnecessary. What are the similarities of mescaline and an expansion that comes about without the use of psychedelic molecules? What is the comparison of it to LSD, DMT,psilocybin, etc.?
I will admit that there is something that a natural awakening has in common with all of the aforementioned substances: It is as totally different from habitual, consensus, herd-awareness, as is the peak of, not some watered down x or some other post-historic mini dose like are now common in the rave and disco scene, but a full blown, psychedelic experience from a full dose of the respective hallucinogen. Natural awakening is AS different from pedestrian forms of consciousness as a 300microgram LSD trip is from watching the news on TV.
But that is the only thing they have in common.
I am gonna repeat that, so that any reader will realize that I mean exactly what is written. There is nothing else similar about them. Some people will be drawn toward philosophical contemplation on these drugs, that is related also, but only in a secondary ancillary manner, and a person on these drugs may not feel like that at all. On the other hand a natural awakening will move a person into the very center of, not thoughts and words of contemplation, one couldn't say a word or have a thought if one's life depended on it, but one is moved by a luscious luminous torrent: expanded into the cool living flame of contemplation without words or thoughts. This is NOT the booby prize (where enlightenment is the realization that there is no such thing as enlightenment.) Oh, no, not even close.
OK, I do admit that realizing that there is no such thing as enlightenment is a large step closer to it than believing that any ideas or thoughts you have about it as a subject have anything to do with the reality of it at all. So in that sense, realizing that what you have been striving for and sucking up disinformation about, is an illusion, is clearer than not knowing it is illusion, but knowing this, is no closer to the reality of this thing, it's just less far away.
© 2012 Carlos Dwa
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By the way, for your information, yoga is not the original means of natural awakening. And further, if you are referring to yoga as it is known in the west, as postures etc. as opposed to the tantric traditions, it has nothing to do with it at all. But then neither does anything else. No one can magically enlighten someone else. No one is permanently enlightened, it is something you have to do every day. After you wake up, you have to wake up again. No one can tell you anything about it that is accurate. This is one of the only things it has in common with intense psychedelic experiences: it is truly indescribable, but it is not confused at all. It fits humans perfectly, unlike experiences brought about by various poisons used as drugs. In fact there is something slimy and hideous about tripping on drugs in comparison. But if you don't really have that comparison, you cannot know this, or in what sense it is true. When you actually have the physical choice of "Why would I want to do this? (drugs of the psychedelic variety) When I can do this. (awaken to a higher cosmic intelligence and consciousness without poisoning myself) then you also would agree with what you now disagree with. It's only your mind holding you back -- forget about it.
Every thought you think you are having about it is wrong, and not just a little -- as totally incorrect as is possible, because every thought that anyone has ever had or will ever have about it is wrong, it cannot be a subject.
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I did happen to mention that someone's best chance is to find someone who can actually activate the system I refer to and interact with them. But I think that there is slim chance that that is a possibility. That may seem a bit unfair, but what is fair about millions of sperm dying so that one can make it to the egg? What is unfair about thousands of sea turtles dying so that one or two can make it to adulthood? What is fair about the fact that so few people actually understand quantum mechanics even though much of our present technology is based upon it? What is unfair about these things? . . . Nothing. Fairness is a concept of the mind and human culture, awakening is not, it is purely physical -- purely primal.
There is no one on earth and there never has been who can tell you what you want to know in the way that you want to know it. No one can tell someone else how to awaken, simply because anything that is said about it is misleading and incorrect. That is because, it is entirely beyond the mind, your questions are wrong, in the same sense as is pointed to in the Zen koan in which a master (someone who has had the grande experience and hasn't gone nutz or started a church or something, and has made some inroads into actually understanding what happened and how to increase their ability to remain in this functional mode and bring it about in themselves) is asked if a dog has the Buddha nature. His answer was mu -- which meant "Your question is wrong." Another example of a wrong question would be for you to demand I tell you if the elephant in my room is orange or madras.
You could go into a gym and use a forklift to pick up the weights. It doesn't matter how many times you do this or how strange and impressive it may seem, a person will never develop the muscles necessary to lift the weight if they don't use the system that can respond and adapt to this end.
Among those lost in what they believe to be their minds, their opinion, their concepts and thoughts, sarcasm and irony can pinch-hit for intelligence.
Thanks for the well-wishing, I didn't anticipate that you would like what I had to say, but then again it wasn't really said in response to you, but in response to the slim possibility that someone with not only the potential, but the passion to awaken would come across this sometime. Personally I have nothing to sell, and there is nothing that I want from anyone, other than what is necessary for physical existence. That is why I come right out and say things that those who have never in their lives been outside of their mechanical automatic functioning, and don't even realize it, have established in their wisdom, is unbecoming for an enlightened one to do or say. The whole concept of an "enlightened one" is total bull. No matter how awake someone is capable of being in a cosmic sense, they are just a blond one away from being as ordinary as any Joe Shmoe, at every moment. All they have to do is start thinking again, or writing, or talking, or believing and identifying with the thoughts that automatically flow through them.
I know for instance that when I was in the depth of my own psychonaut activities with regard to these molecules, it would have cleared a lot of things up for me if I had run into someone like I now am. Sorry you don't like the facts about my experience, most who claim some knowledge about such matters will immediately be compelled to disagree with me -- to the same extent to which they are firmly in the arms of their automatic mental functioning, and firmly believing that they are the thoughts that run through them.
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ctually that is a typo it should read "What chance would he have of anything real anyway?"
> What do you mean by real?
If ones aim is to awaken, then language can be precise because everthing is realtive to this one aim. In this sense real is what a person is able to do. Can one modify their conscious experience in such a manner as to evoke insight and ecstasy?
A person who is dependent on external recreational molecules to alter their real-time experience cannot do this. If they could, quite simply, they would not be taking drugs -- excepts possibly for fun on occasion -- or real physical pain. The experiences provided by the phsychadelic family of drugs provide a distorted reflection of what a real activation of these capacities is like, but it is extremely distorted and anyone who has experience the perfectly apt nature of real awakening would not waste their time on such dead-ends. Go on over to one of the web sites that is centered on drug experiences: confusion reigns: people are ripe to believe any nonsense about "entities" and whatever that someone is ready to spue. They are confused because what they experiences has extreme impact with no comprehension of the territory, and the territory was seen through a lense with fatal disorting qualities.
Remember: this is all relative to awakening, and fatal means the end of this possibility -- at least until they wise up.
So in this sense real means something one can really DO.
>I know you know that most people are insanely stupid. If you are stupid, then you are going to be bored with your mind.
What was written was that people are insanely bored with their own minds. Which is quite a different thing than what you are talking about. The more intelligent a person, the more chance that they are bored with their mind and so it is diverted endlessly, but it matters not a bit if it is diverted by sudying Synthetic Biology or watching two guys cause future brain injury to each other in UFC. Remember it matters not a bit with regard to awakening, not some imagined absolute value. Just as it matters not one bit if someone spends their lives taking drugs everyday, to the matter of awakening, it awakening is not thier goal. If it is however, everything changes, then it matters.
It is real and physical, and chemical, no doubt, but it is not just taking these molecules, it is the act of producing them internally endogenously, which is the key, because each breakthrough is the resutlt of a fundamental insight into the nature of one's existence, and life in general. It seems there is a process of evolving, and the process is delightful, until one actually awakens and finds that nothing, including the process of awakening, and anything ever said or thought about it by anyone including the worlds first ranked spiritual heros, has anything at all to do with it. Except in a negative sense that one can say, what it is not, or what detracts or keeps people unaware.
> I get the feeling that you who onto the belief that every human mind is capable of real enlightenment. I happen to disagree.
Your feeling is incorrect. No human mind is capable of enlightenment, and as long as the process which is regarded as the mind, in our culture, is active, awakening is impossible. That is, as long as what Dwa refers to as the "thought-centric-mind is identified with, awakening is impossible.
>You've done these drugs and didn't have a great experience.
Where did you get the idea that anyone didn't have a great experience? Just sort of assumed it? At the time I thought LSD, shrooms, dmt, STP, and expecially peyote were great, and was quite an advocate of them.
> Why are you so confident in your beliefs?
Is you ability to reach out and grab something with your hand a belief? Surely even though concepts and word are used to describe the ability one may have to grab something with their hand, you realize that the act of grabbing is in no way dependent on the ability to explain the act in words. Though these expressions are conceptual and wordy the act of awakening has nothing to do with beliefs, or words, or any half-assed explanation that anyone may give about it.
So it seems that everyone of your statements and questions were not based on anything that was actually written or implied. Keep this in mind if you have any further statements or questions that do not receive a response.
It's rater simple really. This is your situation:
It is as if you are in a roadside dinner late at night perhaps a Waffle House. You are sitting at the counter minding your own business but you can't help overhearing the person further down the counter who is extolling the virtues of his new Corvette to the world at large. Holding forth on its superior qualities.
There is a flash of headlights in the windows as a car pulls into the Waffle House parking lot, and a stranger enters and sits between you and the Corvette man, whom is still holding forth on the qualities of his ride.
This goes on for another half cup of coffee or so until the Corvette man says, "The corvette is the equal of any supercar on the market. There is virtually no difference between a Corvette and a Bugatti Veron Super Sport.
At which point the stranger that entered says, "I used to own the exact model of Corvette that you are talking about, and I also own a Veron Super Sport and I assure you the only thing similar about them is they both have four wheels."
Now the decision that you have, is to decide whether or not you believe the stranger. Maybe if you like what he said you will believe him, if not you won't. But the woman sitting at a booth by the window believes him because her view into the parking lot is not obscured by her own reflection in the windows like yours is, and she can see the Veron parked outside.
In this metaphor windows equals words.
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@johnfranklin6394 That is a shame, the models up to and including 03, had a 9k redline. Which I love, but I like high rpm while most like high torque. It was the highest output per ci of any engine until Ferrari came out with the Italia. The Miata is far better for most people, especially since unlike the Honda, it uses regular gas and a broken timing chain/belt, doe not destroy the engine.
There are a small, but not nonexistent number of Tesla models S that were produced in 96' - 97' that don't have a lot of miles on them, are in pretty good condition, and . . . wait for it: have over 90% battery life left, are still under an eight year unlimited mile warranty, and have fully transferable unlimited lifetime free supercharging! Of course whether or any particular car would be a raging deal depends entirely on price and condition, but on my web browsing yesterday I came across one that has 32k on the clock and was priced at 35k. If I was in the market for a sedan I would definitely check those kinds of offerings out. Saw it on Craigslist somewhere in PA. using searchtempest for Craigslist (it checks everywhere and gives results by state and city)
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I can imagine an alternative that is outside of the usual: capitalism,
communism, socialism, anarchism ruts. OK well anarchism may not be a
rut, and in a sense it is almost as if an underlying subtle substrate of
anarchism may be both present and necessary for the vitality of the
other isms, but it seems to me that a purely anarchist state, or region,
if you prefer, would be at the mercy of nations that are otherwise
organized.
First of all, I mention in the spirit of full disclosure that I find
government and it's mechanics boring, and somehow grey and depressing,
and consider the people who have a desire to acquire temporal power over
the physical existence of others as sick, deeply self-deluded
individuals. I think that in general our leaders, in whatever flavor
basically suck ass when it comes to administering a government. We are
told that governments are the most dangerous entities on earth, not to
other governments or other peoples, but to their own people. But of
course it is not governments, no matter the formal codification of
society in the form of laws and regulations, but the people who enact
same, supposedly for the benefit of society, but more realistically in
the service of their own organically pragmatic predilections, whether
apparent as in the case of libertarians, and various utilitarian
movements, or subtle and convoluted and perhaps even unconscious as on
the part of various idealists, and utopians.
Anyway, enough of this and to the point. I suggest a governing system
in which the body of government employees, whether a janitor or the
chief executive, is chosen by testing and continual performance review.
Sort of a Techno-Neo Confucianism where anyone who is able to score
higher on a series of tests that are generated by machine learning
logarithms to optimize a governing system that is entirely relative to
an established constitution or declaration of stated national goals,
such as the optimal health wealth and well-being of all citizens or the
earliest possible establishment of an extra-planetary colony that is
self-sustaining, or some other orientation or constellation of
orientations that is established by and modified by the adult populace
with varying degrees of voting powers, which degree would also be
determined by a test designed to test the intelligence, knowledge and
correlation to reality of their internal conceptions. They would be
voting directly only for the goals and general prime directives of the
nation and not the leaders or manner in which these goals are pursued
except in so far as they have established restrictions on such
pursuits, such as environmental regulations and standards of dignity and
freedom regarding all individuals.
New and future technology will allow earthlings to establish a society
that is superior to any that humans themselves are capable of designing
the social and physical dynamics and details of. Thusly the human race
will expand into the limitless resources of the solar system and
beyond, to evolve in concert with our technology to a destiny which is
presently beyond the capacity of even the most creative futurist to
imagine.
In such a system, the tests for positions of higher responsibility would
be complex and not limited to written exams, but would include virtual
reality scenarios, real world assessment and performance review, as
well as extreme depth of psychological testing. I might add that in
regard to such "higher" positions it may well be determined and required
that it would be necessary for them to experience a mental state of
awareness that is beyond the consensus thought-centric and quite
mechanical mental processes of humanity, whether by psychedelic agents
or some other mode of transcendence.
In addendum: democracies do work, I should say "can work", this is
illustrated by the fact that if a problem is too complex, such as
guessing the number of jellybeans in a huge urn. If enough people
guess, say tens of thousands, the median of all the guesses is always
more accurate than any single guess. Ok theoretically a single guess
can be just as, or more accurate than the median of all guesses, but not
very friggen often and it is just luck. Now if you have some agency
that obscures the urn or finds a means of exaggerating certain qualities
or merely using persuasion to misrepresent the number of jelly beans
this will obviously fuck things up. This is analogous to the present
state of the world with regard to the disinformation and propaganda
generated by all manner of sources like Fox News, or any news outside of
peer reviewed journals and even then. . . .
So of course in this society, as it should be in ours, the penalty for
knowingly reporting inaccurate information as fact would be death. No
excuses.
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Concerning aerial surveillance: It is certain that EVERY person who attended a demonstration's identity is known by the NSA and other intelligence and law enforcement agencies. Also know is where they where before they attended the protest and possibly where they were before that, and where they went after the protest, for as long as they want to know about you, right up to present. It's not magic, it's not rocket science, it is cheap and easy to do, because of current computer tech. Here is how it's done: There is a plane, or drone in the air. It is recording the entire city at once with scopes capable of thermal imaging that is controlled by apps that automatically label every heat signature that it sees. So every living thing is labeled. This brilliant program will then continue to keep all the thousands or tens of thousands of labels associated with it's appropriate heat signature. By rewinding to the part of the recording done before the protest it can then usually associated each individual heat signature with an exact address. Same thing going forward in time, it can follow each label to where ever it goes after the demonstration. Of course this is all tied in with cctv and facial recognition apps that automatically correlate data. This information is kept forever, and now, thanks to Bernie Sanders they can legally have inference engines sort though all your internet and digital communications and if you post anything like I did here. You are watched, and possibly set-up if you seem to actually merit the trouble, or if they need a fall-guy, or are looking for likely candidates for entrapment to further their personal careers.
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@dsmith4140 Go back to school and stop embarrassing yourself. Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal') is a philosophical, social, political, economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of a communist society, namely a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money and the state.
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy.
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Yep, but it's not just Republicans, in politics as well as social interactions of a less structured type, hypocrisy makes the world go round: and you thought it was love -- so cute. Though I gotta admit, love, can make the world stop spinning. But OK, I gotta admit, outside of neo-nazi brutes and Qanon Trump cultist, republicans are the worst. But it sure seems to be working for them politically, no majorities anywhere except for the courts and regions where the maps of covid deaths, church attendance, gun ownership, low rates of higher education, all look the same, and they still maintain most of the real power. Follow the money honey, corruption and hypocrisy have no political allegiance.
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The idea that Biden cares about climate change is an illusion. No company or other individual entity has done more to address the climate issue than Tesla Inc. Biden is and has done everything he can to hobble Tesla.
He just put a member of TESLAQ in charge of auto safety in the NHTSA. Guess his union political associates wanted someone who would hobble Tesla while they tried to catch up. They will never catch up to Tesla and they know it that is why they are attacking them politically.
M Cummings owns $900,000 of stock in a lidar company that is a direct competitor of Tesla. Her (not so) irrational hatred for Tesla is motivated by her stock market bets.
She intends to hobble the only American auto manufacturer that has a chance to compete with the coming Chinese wave of excellent EVs. Cars that far surpass what the traditional ICE companies are grudgingly STARTING to consider significant to their bottom line, ONLY because Tesla Inc forced them to.
If you don't really care about this you don't understand how this will effect everyone. It is the definition of corruption to undermine an ethical, profitable, company that has just added 10,000 new jobs in Texas alone, by putting an irrational, and personally financially biased person in charge of controlling the company that had done the most to abate the climate crisis on all fronts, no matter what the kneejerk, woke, haters of all things successful outside of their constricted partisan purview espouse.
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@Ruben-w2v Since bitcoin does not have, and never had, and never will have any intrinsic value: it's value is totally derived from a story in the minds of those who value it. In other words, it's value is totally derived from what people think about it. The same is mostly true for many items that do have a physical aspect: Banksy art for instance, or half million dollar handbags, or even diamonds and gold. Of course diamonds and gold do have some intrinsic value as do the handbags, but it is really only a percentage of their value, and in the case of the Banksy art and the handbags: a minute percentage. Stocks and bonds and the value of currency itself is largely derived from consensus perception as opposed to intrinsic value. Food, water, and air, have the most intrinsic value, but even that is relative to scarcity. What is the value of a loaf of bread sitting next to a thousand other loafs at a supermarket? What is the value of that same loaf if it is the only source of food for a hundred miles? What is the value of a bullet if society collapses?
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Interesting question about Tesla. For some reason, and I have no idea why: Tesla is the only OEM manufacturing in China that is totally publicly owned and is not a partner with the Chinese gov.
They are presently enlarging the Chinese factory, after having taken it off line last summer for improvements which apparently increased its output tremendously. CATL is also construction a battery factory next to Tesla in China, apparently for Tesla's use.
Considering the financial media's hyperbolic attitude about every possible negative about Tesla, I wouldn't doubt that we will see much made of it, and little real difference, other than in the stock market, and that will be temporary.
Right now there are over a dozen Chinese EVs exported to Europe, many of them wear storied European marques like BMW, or MG, or Volvo, but are really Made in China an in many cases majority owned by the Chinese gov. All the European sales from all the Chinese EVs sold in Europe amount to about the same as the numbers of Chinese manufactured Teslas sold in Europe. I expect this will change dramatically as the Berlin gigafactory ramps up. Tesla does not import Chinese manufactured cars into the USA, so no real difference there. Recently wrong-hand drive Teslas have showed up in Austrailia and New Zealand, and despite the Chinese factory continuing to be unable to fill the orders, an unfounded rumor that demand had fallen off in China caused Tesla stock to plummet two weeks ago.
The financial and even regular news media has been attempting to coerce Tesla into handing over the advertising vig for years. What are a few thousand outright lies and slanted analysis compared to the prize, if they can bully Tesla into advertising to protect it from scum journalism? To put this in perspective: GM alone spent over 2.2billion dollars for advertising last year. Tesla spent none: you can figure it out. The media says one thing, but the facts on the ground say "outpreformed again" under all present less than optimal circumstances.
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Democracy cannot work, it can only seem to be working if the body politic is continually bombarded with disinformation: from any source. Anyone who spreads lies through mass media should be stripped of all wealth, publicly caned, and banished. What is true and what is not true should only be determined by proven science and physical evidence. We should bring back the "equal time" laws that Reagan got rid of. You youngsters may not know it, but in the sixties and seventies if anyone gave a political opinion on TV, the stations were legally obligated to provide free broadcast time for any and all opposing opinions. All opinions should be clearly declared to be opinions like this one, and the one on this video. At the very least there should be a score that appears at the head of all communications through mass media reflecting the previous accuracy of the source or venue. This could be similar to the review scores on retail sites.
Politics sucks ass. Isn't it apparent to everyone by now that our political system is an archaic artifact? An artifact based on humanities inability to escape it's bestial warlike nature . . . :campaigns, winner take all victories, leaders who neither lead (excepting the advancement of the concerns of their patrons) nor have the wisdom to make intelligent impartial decisions on the issues of the day. This political web of deceit is a self-perpetuating parasite that warps collective social culture and is itself continually warped due to shameful self-interested exploitation by those who control the economy through control of debt manipulation. Interests and principalities that spew false narratives which have contaminated every aspect of our expectations of daily life, and our future aspirations (or lack of them).
I suggest to you that there are other alternatives. Far more efficient alternatives, that would benefit the whole of society and reduce the corruption that is not only a systemic disease of our political system, but is now the very sinew, marrow, and circulatory system, of a body politic that has done everything possible to free itself from both morality and justice: through legislative and legal complexities, technicality, outright lies, and all manner of fuckery.
It is time to evolve folks. Like a cool pool on a hot day, once you take the plunge it's refreshing and rejuvenating, but before you take that plunge there is hesitation and a resistance to a state change. And we must change the state of our state unless we consider moving into the future by looking through a rear-view mirror and stepping on our own dicks every step of the way while perpetually bitching about it to be some kind of desirable human prerogative. Because as it is, it will never be able to meet our real human needs or provide anything more than updated reruns of the same old conundrums.
If human culture and civilization is to advance it must evolve to a higher state, a higher system of state, which will nurture higher states of mind in the populace, not continually drag it back by aggravating the primal survival instinct in a technological environment wherein this instinct is counterproductive on numerous levels.
I suggest to you that a body politic based on a NeoConfusian Techno-Meritocracy would be so vastly superior: for the state of the state, state of the economy, state of human advancement, and our collective state of mind, that any comparison to the present drunken-knife-fight-in-a-gilded-bordello that passes for our government would be comical.
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@davidsandall Trump reduced taxes on the middle class (temporarily) and reduced taxes on the wealthy (permanently) all the while running up the defect at a rate higher than anyone ever has. Just like Bush did before the last economic bust. Now he wants to end social security, medicare, food stamps, help with rent and heat for the needy, and emergency aid to children, to pay for the deficit he ran up. If you support trump you are one of two kinds of people: a multimillionaire: in which case your support make perfect sense, or you just another rube that got coned by a NYC conman. The biggest problem with most Trump supporters is they are one issue voters: guns, abortion, border security. These people have been played for decades by the politicians on both sides. But the fact remains that Obama deported more undocumented residents per year than Trump has. And the Republican are not ever gonna ban abortion everywhere because they would be killing the ecumenical goose that laid the golden egg. And think about this: Trump made bump stocks illegeal and they had to be destroyed or turned in without any compensation. Bernie said that was illegal, and that at the very least the people should have been compensated for their loss. I heard that Trump already has offers to be the new host on The Price is Right, after Bernie crushes that lying mentally ill Mercer puppet.
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@thunderbird3694 I agree entirely, and actually in retrospect I regret having given the thumbnail sketch of fascism that I did in my response, because the truth is that fascism is such a fungible term that it can be applied to almost any system that melds the corporate and governmental forces into a totalitarian regime. I could for instance give credible evidence that both Communist China and the USA are effectively, if not always apparently, fascist in their actions.
The parallel between Hitler being installed democratically by massive popularity among rural Germans, who had no idea what he was or represented other than that he promised an end to the eternal bickering of the Wiemar Republic. So similar to the few thousand rust belt voters who were ultimately responsible for Trumps victory in 16'. Many of these voters would have voted for Bernie instead of Trump, but the narcissistic neoliberals could not phantom the degree to which Clinton was despised. While in NYC, where the people actually knew about Trump's incredible assholeness, he did poorly.
It's not the first time a NYC conman has pulled the wool over the eyes of a bunch of small town rubes, and it won't be the last.
J.P.Morgan's recent monumental fuckery of the silver futures market reflects this to the n th degree. Not a bad scam, a billion dollar fine on their ten billion dollar illicit profits.
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@Asherah 1147 Neither peaceful protest, nor old news is an oxymoron, and humble opinion is on the fence. If I say, "In her quite humble opinion, Ms. X claimed that . . . " It is not an oxymoron, and in other cases it depends on the subjective attitude of the source.
The word news did not come from the word new, though it certainly seems like it did. The word news, is an acronym for the words north, east, west, and south, indicating that it entails reports from all quarters.
The term peaceful protest simply does not qualify at all because protests are not inherently violent. just saying . . .
Also note: ellipses consist of three dots each separated by a blank space. . . . just saying
"Just saying", is not a sentence therefore does not need a capital letter in the first word nor a period at the end. . . . just saying . . .
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@Bart Garfunkel Yeh, I have been aware of the alternative facts you are spouting for decades the fact remains that Hitler declared war on the USA just like I said. On 11 December 1941, four days after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and the United States declaration of war against the Japanese Empire, Nazi Germany declared war against the United States, in response to what was claimed to be a series of provocations by the United States government when the U.S. was still officially neutral during World War II. The decision to declare war was made by Adolf Hitler, apparently offhand, almost without consultation. It has been referred to as Hitler's "most puzzling" decision of World War II.[1] Publicly, the formal declaration was made to American Chargé d'Affaires Leland B. Morris by German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop in the latter's office. Later that day, the U.S. declared war on Germany, with Germany's action having eliminated any remaining meaningful domestic isolationist opposition to the U.S. joining the European war.
Those are the facts, what you have suggested are just theories that malcontents spout because they are determined to believe that every evil in the world stems from America. These people are fools.
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My understanding is that Mylan and UpJohn merged, to form Viatris. So there is no Mylan anymore.
From wiki: In 2015, Pfizer resurrected the Upjohn name for a division which manufactures and licenses drugs for which patents have expired; as of 2019 it plans to divest itself of this business in 2020.[7]
In July 2019, Pfizer announced plans to merge Upjohn with Mylan, with the new company to be known as Viatris.[8] The merger was expected to close in the first half of 2020, but was delayed due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[9] The merger was completed in November 2020 and the new company was named Viatris.
. . . So Pfizer no longer owns Upjohn, and Upjohn was just a name for it's generic drug division, which they merged with Mylan, another generic manufacturer, and then divested from Pfizer.
I would say there is little hope of punishing Pfizer for a company they do not own, and since Viatris is a generic manufacturer they have no intellectual property.
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Even though Bernie is a non-practicing Jew, in my opinion he is the
first real Christian to run since Jimmy Carter. Morally that is. Think
about it. Reagan put on the Christian cloak and he was actually a
murderous liar directly responsible for the murder and torture of
thousands of innocent villagers in Central America, just to point out
one of the reasons he would end up in hell if there was a hell. Bill
Clinton claimed to be a man of the people and he was just a lying
scoundrel who never really got out of the trailer park. George W
objectively should be ranked with other clownish tyrants. He and the
other NeoCon idiot wiz kids, corrupted the gov by using the
power of the military to ruthlessly murder hundreds of thousands of
innocent noncombatants, destroy one of the stable non radical Islamic
nations, and make the world a whole lot more like hell than it should
ever be. He will probably be put in charge of the hot tubes in hell,
because despite his apparent simple-mindedness he was one brutal source
of evil and lies during his term, who fucked up America as much and
maybe more than JP Morgan JR when he manipulated the American public
into WW1 thereby setting the stage for the rise of Hitler, WW2, the
communist revolution, and all kinds of evil just because he and his
bankster buddies could not bear to lose the millions they had invested
in English and French war effort. So we entered a war that the American
public had to be brain washed into accepting. Luckily the Council on
Foreign Relation happily did this for a fee, and employed the newly
discovered techniques of unconscious motivation that Sigmund Freud's
nephew Edward Bernais developed. This was the worst thing anyone ever
did to
America. The propaganda was so good that here we are a hundred years
later and even most historiand still don't know that WW1 was caused by
the Brits, who had a tradition of just going to war with any business
competitors. Gemany had just won a contract to build a railroad line
from central Europe into the middle east oil fields that granted them
the territory on both sides of the tracks. The Brits started the war in
Africa with military actions against the German incursion into what
they thought of as their oil fields.
Now you know more true American history than 99.9999 percent of the
people alive.
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Good Show.
Figure out how to make Campaign Finance Reform sexy, and save the nation from the criminal scumbags that are now stealing our nation.
If you have two brain cells to rub together you can figure out that the funding of politics is nothing but a system of corruption that was put in place to steal as much as possible for as long as possible.
A populist movement cannot win as long as the worst among us: the Mercers, Kochs, and Goldman Sachs minions, control everything through a system of corruption that they themselves have devised.
Sure it seems like there are a thousand issues: Trump giving away national assets like Putin did to a bunch of rich unevolved assholes who are proud of their predation upon the populace, and there endless red herrings that get all the single issue voters at one another's throats: climate change, fundamentalist morons who think that the world is six thousand years old and will end tomorrow, wars in support of private business interests, wholesale surveillance of the citizens, a ridiculous number of psychopaths with badges who believe they are licensed to kill, etc. etc. etc.
But I am telling you that Robert Mercer understands that the lynch pin of control is campaign finance, that’s why he funds Citizens United, and Britbart, and put Trump in office by giving him key words found by Cambridge Anaylitics to repeat over and over, in near meaningless lies, that the mindless fools that watch and believe Fox New and similar founts of lies were responding to on a limbic level.
He knows that campaign finance is the key to power – do you?
Until this is done, the present plutocratic kleptocracy will swiftly recover from any temporary setbacks.
Sorry if it boars you. It’s not up to your opinion, this is the game theory, this is the facts.
Robert Mercer is using the power of AI against the population and government of the USA to make your voice and vote more meaningless than it already is.
Campaign finance reform must be done, not because it is somebodies interest or pet interest, but because it is the only thing that CAN be done to stop this avalanche of shit the one percent is burying us under.
Goldman Sachs gave the American public a choice in the last election and that choice was, “Would you rather live in shit or piss.” And thanks to 80,000 rust belt fools who were conned by a New York City conman, America chose shit.
And until campaign finance is address and totally deprivatized you will only have a choice between shit and piss in all the coming elections. Unless a real populist like Bernie is nominated (don’t hold your breath) as he should have been, and reforms this madness.
The shit we are in now is because of the neoliberal idiots who supported and cheated for Hillary and voted for her in the primary even though all the polls showed Bernie as way more likely to beat Trump than her. Trump knew it, he even said it, Cambridge Anaylitica probably told him, and still the Hillary supporters deny it. As Gurdjieff wrote, “Even God has no defense against stupidity."
Blessings to those of evolving conscience.
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The Clinton campaign to keep the government in the criminal hands of the bankers has now spent over a million dollars to pay trolls to argue with Bernie supporters on line.
I don't know what she thinks she is getting for her big bucks. I have been online since the first SLIP connections were available to private individuals, back then usegroups was about the only thing online with hundreds of .alt groups. In all the tens of thousands of online arguments in comments and forums, I have never seen one person change their mind on any matter involving politics. Not one. . .
But how is it that we are apparently about to end up with an election in which the two most persons (and I use the term lightly) in America are running?
Don't be surprised if Bill Clinton runs for vice-president, and if that happens, don't be surprised if Bill has her knocked-off. It's the Clinton way; use the vote of deceived African/American, who don't know enough history and current events to understand that no president since the Emancipation Proclomation has done more to hurt them and disenfrranchise and keep then poor than the "first American black president" Bill (send-our-factories-to-China Clinton.
Really, who would be a worse candidate than an person who had her puggy greedy fingers in every illicit scam the government darlings have come up with since she campaigned for Barry (no-water) Goldwater, well maybe Trump, but he may be one of the few who could destroy what him and his billinare chums have left of the American Dream. And no matter what he says, he is gonna go after Social Security, because it is money that he and the other one tenth of one percenters should be getting.
All you Joe Sixpacks and Larry the fantasy plumber agree with that. The poor people who have absolutely no say at all in the governance of our nation are the ones who have screwed the pooch and bankrupted the country -- right? So we should further deregulate Wall Street and increase defense and police spending, because who is going to protect the owners of America from the citizens of the vast fashist plutocracy we live in when the populace at large finally -- FINALLY realize that the one percent has been at war with the 99 percent in every way, police brutality, subversion of the regulations that protect the country from rapeacious banksters, and insane defense contractors, the continual contraction of freedoms and protection from the government, deregulation and privatization of the military and penal systems, who Huh?
The middle class did not disappear entirely as of yet, but it is heading that way, more rapidly all the time. Meanwhile American score new highs in stupidity ratings as a stunned civilized world listen to the rantings of a spoiled brat, and wonder at the incredible stupiduity necessary to mistake a conman for a statesman.
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Democracy Now is Consistently the most coherent and courageous voice in the legitimate news media. We are all waiting for the next 9/11 that these retrograde de-evolutionary anti American bastards who wrap themselves in the flag will pull. Let's use the power of Deep MInd to destroy them this time. As Robert Mercer is using the power of AI to destroy us, so that he and the Koch brothers don't have to pay taxes on their booty. These idiot savants are replacing a golden future of humanity that is near at hand, with their own insane and inane vision. Campaign Finance is the lynch pin. Mercer knows that and that is why he attacked you by decreasing your political value by backing such scams as Citizens United and the hydra of fake institutions that spread his poison. As long as they maintain the present system of legalized corruption of our elections through campaign contributions and actions that would be illegal had not these same interests changed the laws to make their criminal activities legal they cannot be beaten and will quickly revive if harmed. It's time to cut through all this, they can deflect us endlessly with the incredible wealth that they have actually stolen from each and every one of us, and brainwashed the dimmer among us to fight in their behalf. They are masters of the illusion of legitimate power, and do have some power, as long as they can pay gunmen, enough to overcome their qualms about shooting their own, or just hire psychopaths who see a police career as a way to exercise their desire to kill and destroy others without the natural consequences. All money must be taken out of politics. It is not normal to believe that someone who seeks a position of power is a good person. The worst persons seek power, the best have to be dragged to it.
Why do so many think that leaders should be revered? Look at all those glowing faces in Trumps crowds, some of them weren't paid, aren't millionaire thieves who will personally benefit from his kleptocracy and the Putinesk distribution of national assets to various oligarchs and wealthy buddies, and are cheering against their own best interests. Yes a lot of them are stupid, and that is why we have Trump, stupid people along with everyone else were given a choice by Goldman Sach in the last election, and that choice was, "Would you rather live in piss or shit?", and they chose shit.
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I am Bernie or Bust baby and this is why:
Hillary = crooked
Trump = conman
Bernie = statesman
No Bernie, I vote for Rosann Barr she is smarter than all of them anyway. Something is wrong with a system that is best described as a "hate fuck" as Bill Marher said.
Our system managed to deliver the two most hated characters in the public eye. Something deeply wrong there.
Don't believe for a second that these bastards are incompetent, they have intelligence and rescources that you cannot imagine, they are truly gods, compared to scum like us.
That's why they have to go, because it's us or them.
I disagree, I voted for the lesser of two evils before and it leaves a bad taste in your brain.
You don't have to worry all that much about Trump, he is just a ploy to make Hillary palatable don't fall for it. Her and her husband are evil on the hoof.
The Congressmen will kill Trump, one way or another.
Also I agree with kicking out illegal aliens.
Reagan allowed millions of illegal aliens to become citizens and we were promised that was the last time it would happen. Get rid of them, there are plenty of roofers and shit in PA and Alabama that will be happy to build stuff for the western states were white guys don't build, and let the migrants in to do farm work and that's it. A country more than anything else is composed of the genetic makeup of its inhabitants, that's why there are resource poor countries like Germany and Japan that are strong and civilized and places with huge resources that are horrible places to live. If you haven't noticed everyone in the whole world wants to move in with the Europeans and become citizens, problem is if sixty percent of France is Algerian or similar, you no longer have a France, you have a kind of mutated Algeria, same here, you would have to be nuts to want to live in Mexico, but if our population becomes Mexican, so does the country, and soon you just have another super corrupt country run by the mafia. Europeans are good at civilization, if they weren't everyone wouldn't be crashing the national boarders of northern and central Europe and North America. Hows that for a series of blinding flashes of the obvious. Hope it didn't fog up your pc goggles too much..
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Even though Bernie is a non-practicing Jew, in my opinion he is the
first real Christian to run since Jimmy Carter. Morally that is. Think
about it. Reagan put on the Christian cloak and he was actually a
murderous liar directly responsible for the murder and torture of
thousands of innocent villagers in Central America, just to point out
one of the reasons he would end up in hell if there was a hell. Bill
Clinton claimed to be a man of the people and he was just a lying
scoundrel who never really got out of the trailer park. George W
objectively should be ranked tyrants who corrupted the gov by using the
power of the military to ruthlessly murder hundreds of thousands of
innocent noncombatants, destroy one of the stable non radical Islamic
nations, and make the world a whole lot more like hell than it should
ever be. He will probably be put in charge of the hot tubes in hell,
because despite his apparent simple-mindedness he was one brutal source
of evil and lies during his term, who fucked up America as much and
maybe more than JP Morgan JR when he manipulated the American public
into WW1 thereby setting the stage for the rise of Hitler, WW2, the
communist revolution, and all kinds of evil just because he and his
bankster buddies could not bear to lose the millions they had invested
in English and French war effort. So we entered a war that the American
public had to be brain washed into accepting. Luckily the Council on
Foreign Relation happily did this for a fee, and employed the newly
discovered techniques of unconscious motivation that Sigmund Freud's
nephew Edward Bernais developed. This was the worst thing anyone ever
did to
America. The propaganda was so good that here we are a hundred years
later and even most historians still don't know that WW1 was caused by
the Brits, who had a tradition of just going to war with any business
competitors. Gemany had just won a contract to build a railroad line
from central Europe into the middle east oil fields that granted them
the territory on both sides of the tracks. The Brits started the war in
Africa with military actions against the German incursion into what
they thought of as their oil fields.
Now you know more true American history than 99.9999 percent of the
people alive.
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@Daniel
If you would consider an auto-mechanic who was telling someone that a particular bolt had reverse threads and that by attempting to loosen it you were actually tightening it judgmental? Then I am certainly judgmental. But not in the same sense as when someone refers to someones else as a troll or something like that. Actually that word used to mean something back when there were only newsgroups on line and the WWW consisted of only a couple dozen sites that resembled today's web.
You have mistaken what I have been referring to with some idea about healing oneself from some apparent ill, or programming, or perhaps some organic aliment of one type or another. It isn't. What I am expressing has nothing to do with fixing oneself. Not in any guise or by any measure.
If you actually followed this thread you should know that I fully concurred when asked if I thought that psychotropic molecules could have a desirable therapeutic effect. My only issue is that, if one's only experience of higher forms of consciousness is derived from drugs, you should not confuse yourself and others with the idea that drug experiences are similar to "spontaneous" awakening. I am simply stating that if someone has experience with both, they know that they are not at all similar except in how intensely distinct they are from the normal walking around state of sleep that people refer to as waking-consciousness. If you had bothered to comprehend my posts, they state this quite clearly, over and over.
If you simply think I am lying, then you were correct in you initial assessment, you should not have responded. What's the point. I don't care how I "come off" I am just stating which way the threads on a bolt run. And I say this because this is an area were people can actually tell when they don't know something. Unlike your, childish attempt at pop-psychology. A world of misguided souls and such -- which is actually kind of self-fullfilling, because if you believe that, then it is true, for you. You do realize that if I used the term "awaken spirituality" as you seem to quote, that it must have had inverted quotes around the term to indicate that there is something inherently dubious about it. When men refer to "spirituality", they are actually referring to the profound complexity and capacity to produce ecstasy of their own endocrine and limbic systems.
It's as simple as this: if a person knows someone who has developed a certain capacity, lets say playing a piano, and they are writing to him about fixing their piano so that it is not cacophonous when they attempt to play it, but his piano works fine and he has no interest in "fixing" it. Nothing he has written in the past had anything to do with fixing any piano, his own or his friends.
Then because he did not realize that the other fella's piano is not out of tune or in need of some repair, he calls him an egoist because the man has been talking about the actual experience of making music and the other guy has never been able to make music other than by turning his stereo on. The guy with the broken piano should at least be able to realize that the fact that his polyphonic friend CAN sit down and play quite well, and had been able to do so for a good number of decades: he should be able to realize that the guys ability to actually play supersedes any impression he may have that the other guys piano is in need of repair like his own.
Then the guy who thinks his piano is broken accuses the musician of claiming to be able to play with no hands, and says that someone who can actually play without using their hands, or using their body in any way would never say the words that he has said.
. . . himself failing to remember that the guy with a working piano had previously told him that the whole idea of playing a broken piano with no hands was ridiculous. He had obviously forgotten the time the guy with the good piano had taken to explain how people who could not play the piano for one reason or another often made up ridiculous rules by which they imagined that someone who could play would follow and that as it was understood by those with no understanding at all of the reality of this matter, his behavior was inappropriate for a no-handed player with a broken piano.
With this he could almost agree, since they were talking about two different things: except for one little matter: that being: that the guy with the broken piano's piano was not broken, but as long as be believed there was something that needs to be fixed he will enjoy nothing but absolutely cacophonous sounds coming from his piano as he went at it with his little kit of concepts and explanations, his pop psychology hammer, and his wanna-be mystic saw.
The guy who knew his piano was as intact and in tune as it ever needed to be in order to play, also knew that despite his resort to symbolism there was practically zero chance that the difference between playing and thinking about playing would be able to be realized by those who believed something was wrong with their pianos when there wasn't. And they would never be able to play as long as they believed they had to fix their piano first.
For no particular reason I am adding the following for the children who believe that everyone else is hobbled as they are. Being that being hobbled comprises the whole of their earthly experience this is certainly understandable.
Most people who know anything about what is being referred to by my blabbing, realize whether they are themselves capable of it or not, that a person of any authentic experience in such matters, who has entered a realm of enhanced consciousness, knows full-well that one of the characteristics of such a quantum leap of consciousness is an end to the perpetual flow of association, of one thought leading to another, even if one is not intentionally thinking about something. Really there is no need to say much further about it. If you have real experience of a quantum leap in consciousness, that is, not brought about by external drugs, but by the endopharmic action that results from breakthrough realizations, which are actually not two different things. That is: if it is something that you can bring about by active consideration and insights it is always attended by the absence of the automatic flow of associative thoughts which most people refer to as "I" or consider their "I" to be the source of "their thoughts".
If you have actually read my posts and gave it your best to understand them, you may remember that I stated that it is impossible to describe the grande experience of awakening directly, anything you say about it will be misleading at best, and this with people who are ready and dying to awaken, people who have striven to awaken without real success, perhaps for years or decades. Which is not uncommon at all in traditional religious or so-called spiritual groups of one kind or another.
Well the fact remains that even someone who is awake in a cosmic sense , still cannot tell another person anything much about it, the state itself that is. And they definately cannot tell you how to awaken, or some information that will give you the understanding of how to awaken. Because being able to do it yourself is imperative. No one can do it for you, and words, though they can be entertaining, even delightful if someone with a real passion just happens to run into someone who can himself do what they seek.
Though no one can tell you how to bring about these ultimate forms of supra conscious experience, they definitely can tell you things that can save you decades, if such is your goal.
I am not talking about vague advice here, or something that really can't be done as explained, and then the failure to achieve such a state falls upon the student, when actually such things could never be done as presented by any number of the various wanna-be mystics and cult leaders who present themselves to the public as someone who can walk the walk, when in truth they can't eve really talk the talk in any manner that originated with their own insight or awakening, because even their talk is borrowed and not really their own.
Bearing this in mind, I would just like to mention, that I could tell someone how to stop their thoughts. Not for a second or two, but stop them: for as long as they desire or is appropriate in their situation, and then again, whenever they want for as long as they want, if they have fallen asleep again (not bed sleep you understand: waking sleep) that their active mentation devolves into a mechanical procession of associative images which amounts to waking sleep, or your continual need to be distracted from their tedium of mechanical thought-centric consciousness by seeking entertainment or some sort of diverting stimulus. Of course if they are sound enough asleep this waking-sleep of the mechanical flow of association will not bother them at all. They can't even see it for what it is. See it or be it.
Instead of this state of distraction, I can tell you how to enter a state of bliss, with absolutely no thoughts at all. And for all practical purposes it is effortless. From within this silence, the storied grande experience of awakening or enlightenment is far more assessable to those with such an intent.
There are the type of people who will be bothered by such a statement and automatically react with some childish expression of hostility, but there are also the type who think something along the lines of "If this guy's not full of shit, this is the luckiest day of my life."
Which is not really true. It could have been the luckiest day of their life, if. . .
Then again, the net if anything, if full to the brim with second chances in the form of aliases. So. . . as the blind man said, "We shall see."
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There is much in what you wrote.
The very best comedians are the back-door men/women of the ah ha experience in our culture. They often can build a career on pointing out the unexamined obvious, or even the fact that every "thought" that arises in human consciousness is paired at birth with its' own opposite. Louie CK does a quite entertaining job in this.
I made these comments quite some time ago, and to be honest, they never had anything to do with whoever it was that was on Rogan's show -- personally. It was about exactly what you tuned in to.
Since I have, so to say, "experienced" both the states brought on by various psychedelic recreational molecules, and what others have referred to as "enlightenment", I thought I would share my surprise that they were so totally different. I would even say that the natural awakening is as different from something like LSD or peyote as a full-blown trip is from the normal state of sleep-walking, that we refer to as waking consciousness.
Their main similarity is in their intensity, and perhaps in the total inability to communicate anything about them in words, even by means of metaphor.
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Good Show.
Figure out how to make Campaign Finance Reform sexy, and save the nation from the criminal scumbags that are now stealing our nation.
If you have two brain cells to rub together you can figure out that the funding of politics is nothing but a system of corruption that was put in place to steal as much as possible for as long as possible.
A populist movement cannot win as long as the worst among us: the Mercers, Kochs, and Goldman Sachs minions, control everything through a system of corruption that they themselves have devised.
Sure it seems like there are a thousand issues: Trump giving away national assets like Putin did to a bunch of rich unevolved assholes who are proud of their predation upon the populace, and there endless red herrings that get all the single issue voters at one anothers' throats: climate change, fundamentalist morons who think that the world is six thousand years old and will end tomorrow, wars in support of private business interests, wholesale surveillance of the citizens, a ridiculous number of psychopaths with badges who believe they are licensed to kill, etc. etc. etc.
But I am telling you that Robert Mercer understands that the lynch pin of control is campaign finance, that’s why he funds Citizens United, and Britbart, and put Trump in office by giving him key words found by Cambridge Anaylitica to repeat over and over, in near meaningless lies, that the mindless fools that watch and believe Fox New and similar founts of lies were responding to on a limbic level.
He knows that campaign finance is the key to power – do you?
Until this is done, the present plutocratic kleptocracy will swiftly recover from any temporary setbacks.
Sorry if it boars you. It’s not up to your opinion, this is the game theory, this is the facts.
Robert Mercer is using the power of AI against the population and government of the USA to make your voice and vote more meaningless than it already is.
Campaign finance reform must be done, not because it is somebodies interest or pet interest, but because it is the only thing that CAN be done to stop this avalanche of shit the one percent is burying us under.
Goldman Sachs gave the American public a choice in the last election and that choice was, “Would you rather live in shit or piss.” And thanks to 80,000 rust belt fools who were conned by a New York City conman, America chose shit.
And until campaign finance is address and totally deprivatized you will only have a choice between shit and piss in all the coming elections. Unless a real populist like Bernie is nominated (don’t hold your breath) as he should have been, and reforms this madness.
The shit we are in now is because of the neoliberal idiots who supported and cheated for Hillary and voted for her in the primary even though all the polls showed Bernie as way more likely to beat Trump than her. Trump knew it, he even said it, Cambridge Anaylitica probably told him, and still the Hillary supporters deny it. As Gurdjieff wrote, “Even God has no defense against stupidity.”
Blessings to those of evolving conscience.
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It is difficult to imagine the positive value that having Bernie in the executive office would be when all is said and done.
BUT I think they may be parallel to the value that Ralph Nader would have delivered had he made a successful bid.
I firmly believe that had Nader been president we would never have been in either of the wars, and that we would not have had a great recession. The banking corporate elite would have been reigned in before they expressed their real quality and worth as human beings (by driving the nation into financial ruin, and then with the bailout money, paying themselves huge bonuses -- in full view of the public eye -- which gives you a true idea of what they think of the power {and attention spans} of average Americans.)
I can only feel that Bernie will do even better. His refusal to run third party proved to me that he was an even better candidate than Ralph.
There is a little ray of sunlight,
and it is shining right on the linchpin that hold us all in thrall to a hideous machine of death, and the unavoidable self-destruction that a continuation of business-as-usual, represents.
Though as unsexy and boring as the corporate owned media can make it, despite a spate of meaningless red herrings, the public is becoming aware that campaign finance reform is the ONLY issue that can effectively address the root of all problems, because it is the root of how, though unelected and beyond public scrutiny,
the one percent continue to own and rule us,
and profit by our misfortunes,
which are of their knowing design.
They rule a kingdom of financial coercion and outright violence, which is quickly becoming a police state.
Register Democrat and vote for Bernie.
That is the only election there will be in 16.
Whoever wins the Democratic Primary will have to beat Bush and I think either of them
can do that.
But I believe that Hillary has a lot of grist for the republican Swift-Boat mill, that Bernie doesn't. They will only have the fear they can inspire in those who are afraid to try something that is not self-victimizing. Which the Republican are pretty good at.
There is no question, IMHO, that Bernie can beat any of the Republicans,
but can he beat Hillary?
If she were any kind of person she would either step aside or offer to run for vice-president. She's smart, she must know that this is what would be best for the country.
But with Hillary, it's all about Hillary, and with Bernie, . . . eh, . . . not so much.
If he doesn't win, it can only be chalked up to the partiality, ignorance, and underhandedness of the Democrat insiders themselves.
Can we really afford to hand the bully-pulpit over to Goldman Sax and accomplices yet again, for another eight years? Can civilization endure another decade of having banking criminals in control"
They will pillage with glee, and take as much as you will let them steal.
All they need to do is change a law here and there, what's the problem,
most of the Congressmen work for them.
Nobody will even read it till long after it passes.
If Bernie can win that is just the smallest ingress into a whole world of corruption and power. It will be very much up to the rest of us to sustain an effort to bring the-long-view to a government that moves from crisis to crisis, and in which, though everyone is talking, only money is heard.
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Good Show.
Figure out how to make Campaign Finance Reform sexy, and save the nation from the criminal scumbags that are now stealing our nation.
If you have two brain cells to rub together you can figure out that the funding of politics is nothing but a system of corruption that was put in place to steal as much as possible for as long as possible.
A populist movement cannot win as long as the worst among us: the Mercers, Kochs, and Goldman Sachs minions, control everything through a system of corruption that they themselves have devised.
Sure it seems like there are a thousand issues: Trump giving away national assets like Putin did to a bunch of rich unevolved assholes who are proud of their predation upon the populace, and there endless red herrings that get all the single issue voters at one another's throats: climate change, fundamentalist morons who think that the world is six thousand years old and will end tomorrow, wars in support of private business interests, wholesale surveillance of the citizens, a ridiculous number of psychopaths with badges who believe they are licensed to kill, etc. etc. etc.
But I am telling you that Robert Mercer understands that the lynch pin of control is campaign finance, that’s why he funds Citizens United, and Britbart, and put Trump in office by giving him key words found by Cambridge Anaylitics to repeat over and over, in near meaningless lies, that the mindless fools that watch and believe Fox New and similar founts of lies were responding to on a limbic level.
He knows that campaign finance is the key to power – do you?
Until this is done, the present plutocratic kleptocracy will swiftly recover from any temporary setbacks.
Sorry if it boars you. It’s not up to your opinion, this is the game theory, this is the facts.
Robert Mercer is using the power of AI against the population and government of the USA to make your voice and vote more meaningless than it already is.
Campaign finance reform must be done, not because it is somebodies interest or pet interest, but because it is the only thing that CAN be done to stop this avalanche of shit the one percent is burying us under.
Goldman Sachs gave the American public a choice in the last election and that choice was, “Would you rather live in shit or piss.” And thanks to 80,000 rust belt fools who were conned by a New York City conman, America chose shit.
And until campaign finance is address and totally deprivatized you will only have a choice between shit and piss in all the coming elections. Unless a real populist like Bernie is nominated (don’t hold your breath) as he should have been, and reforms this madness.
The shit we are in now is because of the neoliberal idiots who supported and cheated for Hillary and voted for her in the primary even though all the polls showed Bernie as way more likely to beat Trump than her. Trump knew it, he even said it, Cambridge Anaylitica probably told him, and still the Hillary supporters deny it. As Gurdjieff wrote, “Even God has no defense against stupidity.
Blessings to those of evolving conscience.
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How can a person take d'Escoto seriously, when without batting an eye he claims that the USA is . . . "The most war mongering country in the history of mankind."
Perhaps he is unfamiliar with the history of, Assyria, the attacks of "The Sea People", Macedonia and Greece under Alexander, Attilla and his Hun buds, The Mongolian conquest of the middle east and China, Rome, The Persian Empire, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan in China and the South Pacific, The Muslim conquest of the middle east and North Africa, The viking raids and conquests, The Aztecs predations, the soviet genocide of 7 million Ukrainians in a little over a year (the genocide record), the Turkish genocide of the Armenians and Greeks and Kurds etc. etc.. One could go on for pages, especially if one included smaller but extremely hostile and aggressive nations and groups that were continually at war with most of their neighbors to the point were war became the norm, like was the case with many native peoples in both Americas and elsewhere. I am sure some anti-American apologist will point out that the recent aggression of the USA is of a different nature than the aforementioned. And they would be incorrect.
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We should all just listen to the best president of all time and do exactly what he says. Because it's obvious from how the people around him behave that he is the best and has a real handle on the reality of the situation.
I mean any man with his name on buildings all over the world must be a great leader.
Stop all the bitching and fact checking and line up and applaud him and watch everything he does and listen to every thing he says. He is so fascinating and not like all you dumb experts and intellectuals, he is entertaining like a slow motion train wreck. And like the pope he cannot be wrong.
Actually he is every bit a real life super-hero. He is a very stable genius and all the tuff people support him. And they have guns and the democrats mostly don't.
Yeh Trump, best president ever, and the savior of the USA. And stop laughing at his hair and fake tan, he is supposed to look his best
he is the spokes-model for the USA. Trump totally represents us and theAmericans who voted him in are really smart and the envy of the world.
Plus he has the best ratings.
So: all you smart asses out there just remember whatever you do, do not laugh in this god-like mans face, no matter what he says. You just do not have the superior IQ like him, and don't understand how deeply profound his statements are, and that they are both earnest and sarcastic at the same time. He is a quantum president and his statements only mean what he says in retrospect like Schrodinger's cat statements. He is magic, almost like Jesus or Hitler, and if you openly laugh at him, he will punish us by going away. So don't laugh in his face when you are with him in person, not that anyone near him has the balls or ovaries to do it anyway. A point he proves everyday, you delightful scallywags and misanthropic sycophants. Good job, how did we ever deserved the wonderful leaders we have. Without you guys we would really be hard pressed to find a war worth fighting and that would hurt the economy.
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BYD beat Tesla sales, for one quarter. For the year Tesla was ahead. Tesla profit margin was 11% last year. BYD was about half that. So if you only count the final quater BYD did "catch up". Now when you look at the tech and quality of the cars themselves it is a different story. BYD has a long way to go, and when they get there, Tesla will be further ahead than now.
Do not believe anything you see about Tesla on commercial news. Tesla does not pay for commercials. The "news" especially the financial "news" is not there to inform you. It is there to sell ad space/time so it runs anything that attracts clicks/views. They are continually attempting to shake down Tesla for ad dollars, which can be in the multiple billions per year (GM 2.2 billion 2020) and they don't mind lying to attempt to get Tesla to anti up. They do it on a daily bases, usually many times per day.
The majority of negative comments on social media are fromm union shills, short sellers (55 billion lost shorting Tesla so far) dinocar OEMs who can't compete and blame a lack of public interest, those invested in dealerships, gas and oil, service centers, parts OEM (all tiers) your local mechanic, and a hoard of ludites: who can't understand the difference between over 90% efficiency in a system and 40%, have never driven an EV, like dragging a useless ton of iron around with them in the pickup they never actually use as a pickup, and when they do, it could have been done using the trunk of a sedan, and like the fact that the sound of their damaged muffler or low brain cell exhaust mod makes them sound like a big lion, because it is the only segment of their life where they have even the illusion of being powerful.
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@mrswagaswaga Man, old Soc must be rolling in his grave. I did love him once. Many an afternoon at about the age of thirteen, sitting in the town park, back against my favorite tree, reading Plato. Guess kids don't have much of a chance of having that much space in their lives anymore, heads stuck in their phones and such.
I simply made the conjecture that it must be a slow news day. And if you make the correct inference, the fact that true beauty is a matter of what a person has made of themselves as a human, not what their genetic code dictated, is not really new. So it may be entertaining, heartwarming, but I am already quite entertained and heartwarmed. I mean Socrates himself was considered ugly, yet so beautiful in life, and his death, that it echos across the ages despite his obvious erroneous belief that reason could describe reality without reference to empirical data. No big deal, I wasn't criticizing the channel I watch it frequently. It's almost as good as the French English one.
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The biggest single factor in climate change is the generation of greenhouse
gases.
Far more greenhouse gases are produced by animal agriculture than any
other source (87% by animal ag as compared to 13% by all other sources,
cars, planes, electric plants, etc.: combined)
The most important thing you can do as an individual to address climate
change is to stop buying the products of animal agriculture, such as
meat, dairy products, leather goods, and furs.
If enough people do this, we will survive, if not, your grandchildren
will be forced to determine whether to eat their babies to survive a few
more weeks when crops fail globally.
Your choice, indulge your blind instinctive desires and rationalize them
with self-centered mindless opinions, or leave future generations an
earth worth living on.
Or you can just go on fruitlessly bitching about the injustice of things
like Bezo's money and ignore the situation until it is beyond too late.
My personal bet is that the vast majority of you, even if convinced of
the reality of the global climate situation will go on with your
rapacious lifestyles unabated.
Even so, those are the facts. Now -- are you a rational moral being, or a
mad machine that really has no control over yourself?
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I would just like to say thanks for all the info that as a hobby investor I would probably not see if it weren't for your timely reports. You turned me onto both the stock that will become polestar, and the one that allows me to easily invest in CATL. Something I would not have had the patients to figure out myself. While my main investment is Tesla which represents slightly more then half of my portfolio, I do now hold about one and a half percent of my total in the polestar and CATL instruments. I think it is early in the game for both of them. One of my best buys has been in a rare earth and strategic metals etf, which shall go unnamed because every time I mention certain instruments, YouTube automatically deletes my comment. Nvidia has also done well for me, but I was in long ago. It is sort of in competition with Tesla in the AI, and FSD, realms and the stock values seem to roughly mirror each other. I also have some BYD and I probably should buy some more of that. I have more or less invested in a stack of ev related instruments, AI, and now robots I guess.
Like yourself I am fascinated by all aspects of this industry, and I really don't know why. I usually have little interest in engineering and factories and such. I guess it's the "vision thing". If this thing ever really happens like Elon envisions, it will be an evolutionary quantum leap for human life. The old saying was, "What's good for GM is good for the USA" and at the time that was pretty, though not totally true. Now it's, What's good for Tesla is good for humanity. And that is pretty much true.
I cannot wait to see what Tesla does with the incredible earnings it is destined to garner.
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Some little vector that the financial media hardly seem aware of it how world events have lined up to escalate EV adoption beyond what the "experts" have been able to realistically anticipate.
I am not talking about rare earths, or strategic metals, or the many recent FUBAR international logistics, or even China's self immolation by covid policy. No -- I am talking about Russia. Russia is floundering about, trying every harebrained scheme they can come up with to export oil, and none of them is viable. The pipeline to China is small and outdated, and incapable of meaningful volume, they cannot insure any ships, and have no deep ports for supertankers.
Of course PP will continue to be extremely necessary into the foreseeable future, but not for mass transport. Russia is not only destroying Ukraine, it is destroying the only thing it had going for it. In Europe ICE is not even close to viable, both economically and politically. Imagine what the case would be if Tesla Berlin had opened a year earlier than it did. The German fake eviro-shills really shot the whole of their nation in the dick on that one.
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@jackholloway1 We can keep going with this is you want to, but your are only going to find out that your assumptions are based on media spin and not the facts. For instance: about 300 years ago, on August 1, 1714, England's Queen Anne died. As a result, the German Elector George Louis of Hanover was proclaimed king of Great Britain in absentia. He was the only possible heir to the throne, and the first German to ascend an English throne. The German king did not set foot on English soil until two months after his proclamation and was crowned King George I on October 20, 1714.
His grandson George III was the first in the line of German kings to be born in England, with English being his first language. He married the German Princess Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz. The couple had 15 children. In 1837, George IV's niece Victoria, who also had a partly German bloodline, was crowned. She married her cousin, the German Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
Queen Victoria died in 1901, succeeded by her eldest son Edward VII, the first English king from the German dynasty of Sachsen-Coburg and Gotha. To make the name easier to pronounce for the English, the house was renamed Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Just a few years later, in 1910, his son George V became king. He was married to Maria von Teck, who also had German blood, and who became known as Queen Mary.
In 1917, George V decided to change the German family name to Windsor. George also renounced all German titles, as did his cousin Ludwig von Battenberg, who renamed his family Mountbatten. Queen Elizabeth's husband, Prince Philip, came from this family.
The mother of Queen Elizabeth II was British, so she was only partly of German descent.
Her husband Philip, however, had predominantly German ancestors and spoke fluent German. In 1947, he became a British citizen and, shortly before his marriage to Elizabeth, relinquished his German title of nobility and called himself only "Mountbatten."
Their eldest son, the new King Charles III, has a bloodline made up of roughly half German ancestors.
So it is no wonder that genetic tests cannot distinguish between Germans and English: Even the King is half German, and many of the British royals before him were entirely German.
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Kind of silly since the number one EV manufacturer by far in both China and Europe is Tesla, and they produce cars in both China and Germany. The uninformed and intentionally misinforming media pretends like there is some kind of race going on, while the fact is that there is only a race for "also ran". Tesla is so far ahead of any other EV manufacturer that any meaningful comparison can only be made between Tesla and cars that cost twice as much as a Tesla and Tesla is still the better product. The news media seems to think that other companies are "catching up" to Tesla, but the truth is that minute by minute Tesla is pulling further ahead, and reducing prices at the same time. German auto, with the exception of German Tesla has dug its own grave, Chinese EV with the slight exception of BYD, like the American (with the exception of American Tesla, have yet to produce an EV without losing tens of thousands of dollars on each unit, and BYD who is really only a contender in China, is claimed by the media to be the biggest EV producer in China, while the fact is that this is only true is you count hybrid gas vehicle, Tesla produces the most, best, and only meaningfully profitable EVs in China, Europe, and America, and the reason has nothing to do with the reports by the media, which lives or dies on ad revenues, and Tesla does not advertise. The reason they are number one in spite of the disinformation given out everyday by the media, is because when all things are considered Tesla offers value far exceeding that of all other EV manufacturers and a place to actually charge them without anxiety.
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I would be interested in your assessment of the various studies that claim a genetic mutation that prevents the Inuits from going into ketosis.
My casual perusal seemed to indicate that there is some kind of mutation that took place, though it seems that now the validity of the methodology of the blood tests that were used to determine this is in some question.
Also it seemed that some of the studies indicate a condition that prevents them from transitioning to ketosis merely from low/no carbs, but that they could still go into ketosis is they fasted.
The whole thing seemed inconclusive, which left me wondering if some party had an interest in keeping this matter in doubt. They also indicated that the Inuits actually ate more carbs than was first believed and this kept them from ketosis. To me, if it were actually true that the Inuit, in their traditional life, had developed such a genetic mutation, this would settle this entire matter, as to the long term viability of ketosis. It would also settle the matter of low carb, carnivore, vs med, plant based -- once and for all: or those who understood the implications of natural selection selecting against long term ketosis.
Perhaps though, the moment has been lost along with the traditional sequestered life style of the Inuit, and if the data we have is questionable it may be too late to ever learn the conclusion to this debate that life itself had selected. I would be most interested in any view you had on this matter.
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Bernie $ VS Bloomburg $
Apologies to those who took arithmetic in elementary school. I know you already know this -- even so you may not be able to envision the difference in these fortunes and this explanation may help.
Bernie has a stack of two million one dollar bills that he wants to give to Judy.
Bernie is old and can only give her one dollar each second.
If Bernie is wearing a catheter and doesn't need to go to the bathroom and can hand Judy dollar bills 24 hours a day, 7 days a week: how long will it take Bernie to give Judy his two million dollars?
answer: There are 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hours and 24 hours in a day:
Therefore Bernie can hand Judy 86,400 dollar bills every day. So he can give her $86,000 per day.
So it would take Bernie just about 23 days and three and a half hours to give Judy two million dollars.
(since $86,400 goes into $2,000,000 a little over 23.15 times)
In twenty three days Bernie could hand Judy his two million dollars, one dollar at a time, if he can stay awake,
and he can, cause he is a vastly woke dude.
How long would it take little Mike to hand Judy his 60,2 billion dollars one dollar at a time?
Mike is also old and wearing a catheter, is being fed intravenously and attended by his personal medical staff.
Through the wonders of modern pharmacology and a neural implant he purchased, Mike can also stay awake.
But due to age Mike can also only hand Judy one dollar bill per second.
So Mike, like Bernie can give Judy $86,400 per day.
There are 6,759.26 ($86,400) in 60.2 billion dollars so it would take Mike six hundred and ninety six thousand seven hundred and fifty nine days to hand Judy his 60.2 billion dollars. That's 696,759.26 days.
That many days equals one thousand nine hundred and eight years and a few days short of eight months.
So it would take Mike 1908.93 years to hand Judy all his money (that we know of).
Bernie would be broke in 23 days.
Mike would be broke in 1,909 years.
Who is the oligarch?
Addendum: Please note that since Mike is a capitalist who profits, not from his labor or producing goods but by investment, his wealth will actually be increasing by more than $86,400 per day because of profits on his fortune. So in reality, no matter how many thousands of years he spends handing Judy his money, he would never be able to do it and would always have more to hand her each day than he did the day before.
Addendum PS: Old Jewish wisdom: "Every time somebody makes something for nothing, somebody else makes nothing for something." In Bloomburg's and the other billionares cases this "somebody else" is you and everyone else. If you don't understand this you are truly blind and will never understand why wealth is concentrating in fewer and fewer hands and you are being robbed in ways you neither understand nor can do anything about without a fundamental paradigm shift in our laws, government, and cultural world-view.
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You news millionaire "reporter" assholes are to blame for this piece of shit being in office and getting the attention his little piggy heart desires. You profit because no one can look away from the slow motion train wreck that this presidency is, and now you begin to see that giving a narcissist mental defective the attention he craves is not the way to go. You don't understand that he does not care about anything but being the center of attention and never has. He is there to do the bidding of the power-elite and his absurd behavior is to distract from the real evil and thievery that is destroying all the good that our forefathers had built up for all citizens.
Good attention, bad attention it does not matter, you are dealing with a fricken psychopath, a spoiled child. If you actually want him to go away, have the balls to stand and laugh in his face when he lies. If his live audience would start to laugh at him every time he lied he would go away. Ignore him, laugh at him, and then vote him out. You people are imbeciles and I hope you both destroy each other. The only problems the people of earth have is their leaders, one and all they are destroying everything. No sane person would do insane things if not for their leaders, whether political, religious, or military. Fuck all you elitists. You are a plague on humanity and deserve every affront you receive.
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Seeing comments like this is beginning to make me lose respect for Peter's audience. No dude, the solution is to take the profit out of drugs, by decriminalizing them and making cocaine available to the fools who use it cheap. At one point when I was young I had a job doing fix-up and painting around the house of a retired general of the US armed forces. His wife had prescriptions for both cocaine and opium, legally as nose drops and paregoric. She had bottles of them in virtually every room of the house and she seemed to function quite normally. The whole illegal drugs thing is a scam, it is total bullshit, and the only solution that works is decriminalization and gov sponsored clinics where the drugs can be had and used safely like they have in Switzerland. Unless you want the drug barons and their banker launderers to continue to corrupt every facet of our Republic from Congress down to the beat cop level, and the incredibly ineffective enforcement apparatus which has proven that they can do nothing of significance regarding the problem except increase their own power and funding and shit on low level street level creeps.
When you make something like pot or opium illegal you make it so profitable that it will be smuggled and sold successfully no matter what enforcement techniques you use. It is natural to use and want to use drugs, cocaine is like coffee, only actually less toxic than pure caffeine. The worst drug by far as far as health and society is concerned is alcohol. You could use medically pure opioids most of your life without serious consequences, not so with alcohol. The reason drugs are illegal is power and money is derived from their prohibition, but the lies have the public in fear and no one has the courage to stand up because the bastards that profit from the prohibition have everything by the balls.
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The CIA, about a thousand US special forces troops, and the Northern Alliance (an alliance of drug dealers and heroin smugglers) ran Al-Qaeda out of Afghanistan with minimal ground forces and a few cargo planes full of hundred dollar bills.
The mess you are seeing now is entirely the fault of the people who decided to send in the army and nation build. This is the decision that caused the following twenty years of wasted funds and American lives.
So who was it that made that fateful and enormously stupid decision?
Yes hindsight is 20/20 but apparently so were the many voices that warned of the inevitable quagmire that would develop in Afghanistan twenty years ago.
This is who is really responsible for the lose of life and the incredible expense of a meaningless war that anyone with a few brain cells knew, would end as it has: decades ago.
The dummy who made the decision:
President George W. Bush signs into law a joint resolution,
authorizing the use of force against those responsible for attacking the United States on 9/11. This joint resolution will later be cited by the Bush administration as legal rationale for its decision to take sweeping measures to combat terrorism, from invading Afghanistan, to eavesdropping on U.S. citizens without a court order, to stetting up the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
But of course the usual suspects, the military industrial complex, dose see a huge windfall every time the USA arms it's enemies by giving arms and training to forces who have no intention of standing and fighting. The USA got punked once again by it's own arms industry.
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The biggest single factor in climate change is the generation of greenhouse
gases.
Far more greenhouse gases are produced by animal agriculture than any
other source (87% by animal ag as compared to 13% by all other sources,
cars, planes, electric plants, etc.: combined)
The most important thing you can do as an individual to address climate
change is to stop buying the products of animal agriculture, such as
meat, dairy products, leather goods, and furs.
If enough people do this, we will survive, if not, your grandchildren
will be forced to determine whether to eat their babies to survive a few
more weeks when crops fail globally.
Your choice: indulge your blind instinctive desires and rationalize them
with self-centered mindless opinions, or leave future generations an
earth worth living on.
Or you can just go on fruitlessly bitching about the injustice of things
like Bezo's money and ignore the situation until it is beyond too late.
My personal bet is that the vast majority of you, even if convinced of
the reality of the global climate situation will go on with your
rapacious lifestyles unabated.
Even so, those are the facts. Now -- are you a rational moral being, or a
mad machine that really has no control over yourself?
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Nobody in a position to do so really wants to solve this problem. Some don't even consider it a problem, they consider it career insurance. The solution is simple and has been proven in Switzerland. You give addicts free drugs in clinical surroundings with access and caring inducement to enter therapy. This will solve all this instantly. But, the bankers don't want that. They want to continue to clean the billions in profits for their cut. They own the media and you are not ever going to see anything on corporate owned media that presents a real, proven, solution to this problem, because for the power elite, this is not a problem, it is a source of capital.
Here is an even simpler way to put an end to enriching the first criminal billionaires on earth. Which were created entirely by the puritanical US laws. Make it legal for any adult to grow any plant for their own use or the use of someone in their care. End of problem. People will just grow poppies in their gardens and settle into a maintenance dosage, stop the criminal activities they are involved in to be able to afford these illegal drugs and get back to a productive life. This has also been proven in Switzerland. The power-elite know all this, yet in their media they continue their century of lies in order to manipulate public opinion, for the sake of their own profits and power.
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Some little vector that the financial media hardly seem aware of it how world events have lined up to escalate EV adoption beyond what the "experts" have been able to realistically anticipate.
I am not talking about rare earths, or strategic metals, or the many recent FUBAR international logistics, or even China's self immolation by covid policy. No -- I am talking about Russia.
Russia is floundering about, trying every harebrained scheme they can come up with to export oil, and none of them is viable. The pipeline to China is small and outdated, and incapable of meaningful volume, they cannot insure any ships, and have no deep ports for supertankers.
Of course PP will continue to be extremely necessary into the foreseeable future, but not for mass transport. Russia is not only destroying Ukraine, it is destroying the only thing it had going for it.
In Europe ICE is not even close to viable, both economically and politically. Imagine what the case would be if Tesla Berlin had opened a year earlier than it did. The German fake eviro-shills really shot the whole of their nation in the dick on that one.
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@henrikl4244 Unless you really can't afford it, or are over 65, or disabled. Then you get free healthcare, $600 per year for glasses/contacts, between insurance and SNAP you get free food, $7,000 per year for dental, Around $600 dollar per quarter for OTC health aids, most or all of your rent paid depending on your SS rate, subsidized home heating, free weatherization of your apt or house, a rebate on your property tax or rent costs, a minimum of about 10grand per year in SSI, if you are single without dependents. Plus other stuff I can't remember right now. Not exactly the picture that the woke puddin' heads paint.
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It was not American isolationism that lead to it's involvement in WW1. Much the contrary.
Entering WW1 was the stupidest thing that the USA ever did. When Russia collapsed and the revolutionaries signed a treaty with the Central Powers it freed up a million German soldiers to move to the western front.
And admit it or not the soviets were now backing Germany.
When this happened if the USA had not entered the war due to the subconscious manipulation of the American public via Edward Bernays Council on Foreign Relations using techniques he based on the unpublished works of his uncle Sigmund Freud, a public that was almost totally against the war became a public that cried for vengeance, even hung a few German Americans in the streets.
If the USA had not entered the war at that point the Central Powers would have won.
Had we stayed out of it, there would have been no Hitler, no WW2, no vast genocides of Jews, the disabled, gypsies, and various other scapegoat groups, no Soviet superpower, and no loss of over a hundred thousand American boys in a war the nation really had no stake in. AND the end game would have been more or less what we have in Europe today. (Remember the Germany of the time was not a Nazi Nation run by a madman but a constitutional monarchy in which political parties were limited to the legislative arena. And there is much speculation that the real reason for the insane mobilization that took place was the work on the construction of a German railroad from Central Europe into the oil fields of the Middle East, which the British controlled.
On the other hand there are those Americans who benefited greatly from the war at the time. By the end of 1918, American factories had produced 3.5 million rifles, 20 million artillery rounds, 633 million pounds of smokeless gunpowder, 376 million pounds of high explosives, 21,000 airplane engines, and large amounts of poison gas.
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@sarahprosecco So true. Always need to wrap the base instincts of humans , in flags, or god's will, or patriotism, or justice, or some such rot to cover up the real rot: the fact that humans in denial of the true sense of their own capacity for brutality and ego enhancing aggression can rationalize anything in order to forever avoid the real intra-personal and cosmic reality of their heinous acts.
Delusional killer apes with language, and brains molded by survival hormones distorted by the delusion that concepts have the same reality as things that don't disappear when no one is thinking or talking about them.
Ever in denial of the fact that their beliefs and conceptual constructs are nothing but superficial devices to cover up the reality that aside from these instinctive hormonally driven distortions of the impulse for genetic expansion of life:
inwardly they actually consist of nothing and must ever avoid this point blank realization.
Unless they are fortunate enough to see that their mind and automatic mental functioning are totally mechanical and their immediate nonconceptual, consciousness awareness transcends all they presently believe to be themselves and hold dear.
I have some hope for a generalized projection of oxytocin from females, and not much else outside of those few persons devoted to the evolution of their own consciousness within their lifetimes. The pursuit of which necessarily entails the abandonment of all forms of hostility, and even all forms of criticism such as I evidenced in the above tirade.
Outside of references to actual physical events and problems, their is no truth in words let alone habitual mechanical thoughts, including these.
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@paul9156c I hear you. IMO you can't take the defeats of US foreign policy as military defeats.
You know, it's just not in fashion to defeat a country militarily, kill all the men and boys, take the women as slaves, and move your veterans onto the conquered territory to establish settlements. So how else do you fleece someone if you can't fleece your enemies because of world opinion and it's repercussions? You fleece the taxpayers. Your own tax base becomes the enemy. You set up vast nation building programs then when they fail, you make sure that your enemy captures your military equipment that you supplied the puppet forces with. Then your military industrial complex is happy and gives out huge bonus checks in the form of campaign contributions to the scumbags who should be representing the people.
But the USA hasn't really prosecuted a real total war against anyone since WW2. I assure you, as meaningless as it has become in today's world, there is not a country on earth that the USA could not totally destroy in short order, if they decided to commit to total war. Even in total war without nukes, if the idea was just to win, and destroy everything -- you like myself may consider it an ill-placed priority -- but nobody comes close. Not even close. It's like comparing a Tesla model s plaid to a Chevy Bolt.
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If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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At 16:40 Bill says. . . In America: "They don't cut down the tall trees."
Obviously lives in a different America than Christopher Columbus, George Washington, and Elon Musk's public personas do.
While it is obvious to me at least, that if even one of Musk's far-out projects reaches fruition: Self-driving electric cars, space exploitation and exploration at an exciting pace, a computer/human interface, affordable AI directed humanoid robots, affordable internet access from remote locations, his threatened age of abundance, he will have achieved an Odin-like historical stature, beyond the likes of Henry Ford, Edison, and perhaps even Einstein.
I personally can attest to the salubrious effect of an age of abundance to one's outlook, having spent part of my life in the so-called Age of Affluence, back in the sixties and seventies.
In retrospect I am told, by the media experts it was not really an age of affluence but one of high inflation and many cultural challenges. A laughable group at best (those media darlings).
Affluence is mostly a state of mind, or to be more honest, a state of hormones which inculcates a reciprocal state of mind.
Status, and power are two tried and true ways to enhance this hormonal state even into advanced age. But it's not the only way.
Basically that's what the sixties was all about: breaking the bonds of group imposed templates that regulated neuropeptide/endorphin enrichment of the subjective state.
All the tropes of the "Age of Aquarius" are related to freeing the individual from these biochemical shackles posing as cultural norms: psychedelic drugs, spirituality and personal growth, humanistic psychological movements, experimental sexuality, and on and on.
Of course for better or worse, these organically derived cultural norms had been both themselves mutating and directing this internal metabolic rewards system in humans since before the first non-instinctual behavior in our species, and like most things human, have their origins in the so-called "survival instinct".
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The USA is not a democracy. It was never intended to be a democracy by the founders. It is a constitutional republic, which is a form of government designed to present the illusion of democracy to the populace while keeping real power and wealth in the hands of a few families and power elite plutocrats.
This may or may not be a good thing.
A real direct democracy, which is only evident in a few regions of Switzerland and nowhere else in the world, or history, would be a catastrophe in a culture which is most typified by it's public information being basically one or another narrative that are actually partisan webs of lies, as are evident in all our mass media venues including this one (though not quite as bad as most).
You cannot have an effective democracy when there are no controls on the dissemination of disinformation and false narratives, by corporations chasing advertising revenues and scoundrels seeking power.
To think this will ever amount to anything other than the hodgepodge of insanity that is our public forum of debate is itself insane. It's time to grow up and wrest the sinews of our culture from the vision-less power seekers who control it. Human culture must evolve to propel humanity into it's possible golden destiny on earth and among the stars.
It is time to seriously move toward a culture that is a true meritocracy, a neoConfusian techno-meritocracy where there are government upgrades and not elections. Time to give up the old paradigms which are based on war and campaigns, deceit, and the scum rising to the top.
We have the technology and science to design a system that can truly determine the best candidates for positions of collective responsibility, by extreme and unbiased vetting, background checks, psychological tests, judgement evaluations by performance in intelligence tests and performance in virtual scenarios, evaluation of past performance, sophistication of problem solving abilities and other verifiable objective methods rather than the standards now in use, (sex appeal, appearance, psychopathic tendencies, the ability to lie convincingly, what family you were born into, the animal lust to pursue power and how much you promise to steal for or from the one percent.)
Also there must be consequences for the dissemination of disinformation and conspiracy fantasies in mass media. I suggest caning and banishment after the confiscation of all wealth.
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The whole idea of a piece of land being sacred to the Native
Americans is stupid and just not accurate. Most traditional Native Americans consider all land sacred, so your reporting presents a false narrative, not just to others but to the Native A,mericans themselves. who now believe all manner of nonsense about themselves, like they were always peaceful woke environmentalists who love nature and one another, while NOTHING could be further from the truth, well maybe somethings could be further from the truth like the belief that Trump is anything but a toxic conman. Besides, in reality, either everything is sacred because a person has evolved consciously and sees reality, or it is just one of a thousand different superstitions about all manner of nonsense, held by confused people supporting their particular guess about things that are beyond them. I hardily support the protests against pumping tar sand oil and other environmental acts of irresponsibility, but I also hardily denounce nonsense even when it is presented in terms of tradition and the "sacred". It's nice, it's romantic, and it fits in with the emotional narrative that Hollywood and mush media like to present as of late, but it is still nonsense.
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If you are too far ahead of the herd it's the same as being too far behind the herd. You wanna be with the herd but at the front of it. You can be totally correct about how things will go, but as reality attests, perception is everything in a land where all value is relative.
Fortunately Tesla has too much reality going for it to be held to the predilections of manipulated troglodytes who go by the financial media narratives.
I know there are the institutions and whales, but there are so many people who bought TSLA because they bought a Tesla, lots. Also lots of people who can now afford all the Teslas they want, because the bought TSLA.
The average American is in the dark, they just do not realize the demand for Teslas.
These cars are so far beyond all other EVs that they really cannot be considered the same generation of EV. It's like you can have an F22 Raptor or you can have an F14 Tomcat, but the price you pay will not necessarily reflect the quality of your ride. In fact in many cases, though seriously inferior the F14 costs more.
Unknown to them, the buying public does not realize the discontinuity between a Tesla and other EVs.
They are barely the same thing.
The fact that second hand Teslas are commonly sold for more than a new Tesla costs should tell you everything. But the reality of most of the public is a mosaic of attachments to varying degrees of a fantasy sold to them by ads and the companies that are in business only to sell ad time or space.
That includes all of the financial networks.
They hate Tesla, because it does not pay the hundreds of millions vig that the old OEMs cough up, to present their dreams to you, wrapped in emotionally alluring psychologically manipulative images, which effect you even if you know about the techniques used.
Tesla does not advertise, they do not need to.
Tesla owners sell Teslas to their friends by letting them drive them.
The media would have loved to see Tesla fail, dry up on the vine, and they did everything they could to insure it, with false reports, thousands of word and minutes spent on one fire that occurred because of misuse and apparently drunkenness, but not one word about the thousands of people who die each year because they are burned up in a gas car. And on and on.
But it didn't work, because ultimately Tesla is too real.
Listen those of you who still swallow the media contrived swill they serve up to you as car fan mags and shows. The number ones selling car model in Germany is a Tesla model 3. Not the number one EV. The number one car of any type. That's issue one. It should tell even the holdouts something.
number two. YOu can sell your Tesla for more than you payed for it. Because so many people want them that it can take months to get one. Tesla keep raising the price but it doesn't matter, they are still all sold out for months.
Number three they have the most owner satisfaction of any car. The can run a million miles without anything but tire changes and some have.
In the future you may not be able to buy a Tesla because it will be better for Tesla to just rent them by the mile as robotaxis. But people don't understand yet that if FSD is achieved it will be as big a breakthrough as was the steam engine. If the bot comes about, it will be a state change unparalleled in all of Human history. Overvalued -- . . . Really?
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@malikahmad8170 I was thinking that much of the land that the Jews purchased in Palestine was through Turkish absentee landlords at an extreme discount after the British took control and the Ottomans had lost in WW1, and was going to say as much, but I decided to look it up first and found out that I wasn't really wrong in this belief, but that it was a really complex issue, and Jewish organizations businesses and even private citizens were largely prevented from buying land, or at the best, highly restricted. This of course led to all sorts of shenanigans with strawman buyers, and many other means by which Jewish owners got around such restrictions.
The whole think was a mess for many reasons. And the British, who were administering the region, was feeling pressure from certain powerful Jews, like Lord Rothschild who legitimized the idea of a Jewish homeland in Palestine in the Bafour declaration. Then the Zionists radicals blew up the British administrative offices in Palestine, and the British had more or less had it with the whole deal and pulled out.
So it really seems that it was the British who allowed the establishment of Israel "legally". However it was also the British who enforced the restrictions on Jewish land purchases in Palestine. So there was really no country there just an administered territory. They were supposed to be organizing the country of Palestine, but when the British pulled out, The Jews in Palestine declared Israel an independent nation {which is distinct from a "homeland"} and civil war ensued. So -- the British did it. Sort of.
But if there had been no British administration of the territory after the Ottoman rule disappeared: Jewish interests and parties would have just bought up everything anyway. The main problem is, once again -- religion.
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@tonysu8860 No Su, you are very wrong: We are not talking roding from space here with masses of depleted uranium or tungsten , or a rail-gun firing a depleated unranium projectile at a specific target, which would still only amount to localized damage, we are talking about a quite fragile missile that is totally dependent on its warhead for destructive potency. The Russians have been using hypersonic missiles in Ukranie with exactly the effect that Zeihan has reported. So you imagination is incorrect, and Zeihans analysis based on actual observation is most correct. Your idea that the kinetic force alone would penetrate defenses that might even resist nuclear explosion is pure nonsense, and fails to consider the most important factors involved in kinetic energy, speed alone is not enough without the necessary mass. All ICBMs are hypersonic, yet rely on nuclear weapons for destructive power, because if it was just the hypersonic missile alone it would, with luck destroy a building or two, instead of an entire city. Read and learn the truth instead of the fantasies you now believe.
US Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley said the Russian use of hypersonic weapons in Ukraine was not having “really significant or game-changing effects” during a House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee hearing.
“Other than the speed of the weapon, in terms of its effect on a given target, we are not seeing really significant or game-changing effects to date with the delivery of the small number of hypersonics that the Russians have used,” Milley said.
A senior US defense official said on Tuesday that Russia had launched between 10 and 12 hypersonic missiles against Ukraine so far.
Here is a video of a shopping mall that was hit by a russian hypersonic missile. As you can see it is mostly still standing though the explosion from the warhead did set it on fire. No quantum leap in damage over a regular HE guided missile - despite the russian propaganda and hype. https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/video/2022/05/11/russian-missile-strikes-obliterates-ukrainian-shopping-mall/
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I have been as critical as anyone is of Joe, but only on his own show. I love Joe, and his self-contradictory struggle to maintain at least the appearance of the open minded searcher of sorts. The media needs more people like JOe. Sure he eats meat and likes to see people beat the shit out of each other, but his YOutube channel is were I first came across Rhonda Patrick, David Sinclair, Bernie, Krouse, every thing from cutting edge physicist to numb skulls like that right wing Milo idiot. I check out the show and if it's a comedian or a fighter which is more than half the time I just listen to something else. Joe is just susceptible to the testosterone agenda and looks up to warriors like a kid. He is ever so slowly becoming aware of the impression of hypocrisy and unowned cognitive dissonance that he skirts on so many subjects. But so what if he give a stage to squirrely mofos that make their living by telling stories that some shalow PC kneejerks don't like. His guests are sometimes great, sometimes horribly offensive to people's intelligence, and mostly like irrelevant unless you think that comedians and fighters hold valuable opinions. Joe is mostly a stoner hanging with a big variety of people, within the bell curve anyway (I mean he really never has any guests that are actually outside of the consensus spread of relevancy. People are just assholes, they accept some story that fits their feelings and hormones and can't see beyond the self--involved little critters they are.
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@swankydanky8025 Sure: I have a very big bucket. It goes all the way from table sugar, to peyote, to opium, etc. etc. Even includes such esoteric legends as obadriene, levo dromirane, and quaaludes. Bet you won't find those at your friendly neighborhood dispensary, or dealer.
In the bucket that that bucket is in, I include social media, words in general, sports, you know, anything that that throws those neuropeptides into the breach, but is not directly survival related.
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If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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Though all authentic religions have their origin in an instance of expanded conscious awareness, no religion is about this experience even if it claims to be.
In fact if it were not for those who attempted in one way or another to achieve such an enlightenment and failed, no body would have heard about the possibility at all. All communications about it are incorrect and cannot be otherwise. Regarding achieving such an exalted state, if you can think it: it cannot be correct.
All your "spiritual" or metaphysical, heroes were failures: those that existed as more than metaphors that is.
The possibility to ignite the dormant potential of awakening this totally physical epigenetic mode of enhanced awareness is not and can never be a subject. It is not something that can be approached or achieved by the thought-centric-associative-process that modern humans refer to as "me", or "i" and which is truly a totally automatic process that is the growing tip of the survival instinct.
The reality of this is so far from what the "experts" or anyone has to say about it, that if one were actually seriously pursuing such an experience they would do best to just totally ignore what anyone including themselves and myself had to say about it.
They would realize that the relationship that such conferences as this had to do with it, is about the same relationship as that which Fox news has to real events. It is entertainment and nothing more, for those who are satisfied with thoughts and dreams that originate with those who are indulging in hearsay, or at best, having had a taste of such a state, are so baffled by it that they can only resort to religious, or memes about "consiousness" when they are no longer in it.
Enlightenment is not a concept. Nothing real or accurate can be said about it. It cannot be studied a little at a time like math or religion. Nothing leads to it and no one can lead you there. It is not an intellectual conclusion, idea, or belief. It is as physical as a heart attack, and nearly as devastating, if you find extreme astonishment devastating.
It has nothing to do, not even tangentially, with anything that you or anyone else has ever thought about it.
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No here is the point: CNN along with all the other co-opted corporate news outlets have been completely unfair, biased, and hostile in their coverage of Bernie, and have repeatedly lied about his real position with voters. Bernie is the most popular politician not just in the Senate, not just in Congress, not just in the USA, but in the world. If you do not know this you do not deserve to call yourself news. I suggest the alternate moniker of "Millionaires and wanna-be millionaire spokes-models for the one percent, and shameless purveyors of a contrived false narrative and warped paradigm, to manipulate the public by continuously manufacturing and presenting lies as public consent. Scumbags like all the corporate news outlets in the service of their oligarch owners and masters. That may be a bit of a mouthful so maybe just Lying enemies of the real public. The public who, by the way, support Bernie to a degree unseen since FDR. Time to get rid of the orange beast and his butt sniffers.
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Bernie $ VS Bloomburg $
Apologies to those who took arithmetic in elementary school. I know you already know this -- even so you may not be able to envision the difference in these fortunes and this explanation may help.
Bernie has a stack of two million one dollar bills that he wants to give to Judy.
Bernie is old and can only give her one dollar each second.
If Bernie is wearing a catheter and doesn't need to go to the bathroom and can hand Judy dollar bills 24 hours a day, 7 days a week: how long will it take Bernie to give Judy his two million dollars?
answer: There are 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hours and 24 hours in a day:
Therefore Bernie can hand Judy 86,400 dollar bills every day. So he can give her $86,000 per day.
So it would take Bernie just about 23 days and three and a half hours to give Judy two million dollars.
(since $86,400 goes into $2,000,000 a little over 23.15 times)
In twenty three days Bernie could hand Judy his two million dollars, one dollar at a time, if he can stay awake,
and he can, cause he is a vastly woke dude.
How long would it take little Mike to hand Judy his 60,2 billion dollars one dollar at a time?
Mike is also old and wearing a catheter, is being fed intravenously and attended by his personal medical staff.
Through the wonders of modern pharmacology and a neural implant he purchased, Mike can also stay awake.
But due to age Mike can also only hand Judy one dollar bill per second.
So Mike, like Bernie can give Judy $86,400 per day.
There are 6,759.26 ($86,400) in 60.2 billion dollars so it would take Mike six hundred and ninety six thousand seven hundred and fifty nine days to hand Judy his 60.2 billion dollars. That's 696,759.26 days.
That many days equals one thousand nine hundred and eight years and a few days short of eight months.
So it would take Mike 1908.93 years to hand Judy all his money (that we know of).
Bernie would be broke in 23 days.
Mike would be broke in 1,909 years.
Who is the oligarch?
Addendum: Please note that since Mike is a capitalist who profits, not from his labor or producing goods but by investment, his wealth will actually be increasing by more than $86,400 per day because of profits on his fortune. So in reality, no matter how many thousands of years he spends handing Judy his money, he would never be able to do it and would always have more to hand her each day than he did the day before.
Addendum PS: Old Jewish wisdom: "Every time somebody makes something for nothing, somebody else makes nothing for something." In Bloomburg's and the other billionares cases this "somebody else" is you and everyone else. If you don't understand this you are truly blind and will never understand why wealth is concentrating in fewer and fewer hands and you are being robbed in ways you neither understand nor can do anything about without a fundamental paradigm shift in our laws, government, and cultural world-view.
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Never did trust that Mickey Mouse looking conman.
Want to keep things as stupid as they are, don't include Tesla.
Tesla is only the number one selling EV.
Tesla is only the most American car in production, that is sold in America.
Tesla only makes an EV that is a half dozen years ahead of the closest competitor.
Tesla is only the company with the only viable charging network.
Tesla is only the most ethical company in the entire auto world.
Tesla only has, not only the number one selling EV but what will be without a doubt the number one selling car in the world.
Tesla is only the actual reason that any other auto company is now going electric.
Tesla is so far beyond this ignoramus's concept of what the future will look like, that he doesn't deserve to be in the same reality, let alone sit at the table with Tesla.
Tesla is only the car company with the highest degree of owner satisfaction.
Tesla only offers a car that is faster than any other production auto no matter the price, and can still can carry four adults and their golf clubs and full overnight gear while doing it.
The media and the companies that would have rather had you die in a wreck because it was cheaper, until Nader forced them to adopt seat belts and collapsing steering columns, have been looking for a way to overcome Tesla, because it is so obviously superior in product and production than the dinosaur auto companies -- and it doesn't pay the crime family-like crooked media the advertising vig that the other car companies depend on to sell you dreams.
Dreams that will not even approach the reality that is living right now in Tesla products and production methods.
Buttegieg, with McCluen like rear-view mirror vision, leads us onward into the fog. And it's not even his rear-view mirror that he is looking through. It's the one lent to him by the dino-auto industry. The one that says "LIMITED VISION: objects are more crudely engineered than they appear in the ads".
No unions at Tesla, Musk wants the employees to own Tesla. That's how it should be done. You micky-mouse-looking clown.
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Just started watching: but dude if you disregard unusable doomsday weapons, Russia is not even close to the second strongest military in the world. The state of California alone would take Russia behind the woodshed and spank it until it cried for its mama. The Chinese, British, French, Swedes, Poles, Norwegians, Germans, and others could kick Russia's butt down the road like there's no tomorrow. There is a huge difference between having junkyards full of rusting old equipment, with an army that fights like a drunken whore, and being able to take it to a modern adversary with much better equipment, logistics, training and intelligence.
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Comment part 1
Sheltered as I am, and as much a fool as I allow myself to be on a daily basis: I will now proceed my pouring from the empty into the void by giving a brief outline of how an optimal human government should be arranged. In fact, one objective look at the so-called political systems, and their underpinning, that populate our planet should inform the observer that what is happening is just window dressing on barbarism, it's just a theater of the mind, a velvet glove on an iron fist.
I don't know of any system of government or rule that rises above the idiotic, or so it would seem, if the object of the system is to optimize, as much as is possible, all honorable aspects of human existence, and to curtail those commonly deemed as undesirable, the present systems of governance found on earth are archaic trash: just an excuse for the same old kleptocratic autocompulsive psychopaths, to further inflate their already vein-glorious mini-minds in the vacuous reflections of the sycophants that surround and enable their insanity because of their own highly deviated and corrupted survival impulse.
They wish they were a real boy, but despite the world of suffering they create by trying to fill their truly vacuous lives with babbles of all types, real life eludes them, and always will.
Even ole' Socrates knew that a person that seeks power should never be trusted with it.
Human political culture is a joke. An eighth grade class could come up with a better system than the battered whore the banksters and one percent -- have afforded the world. It's a joke, a sin, and a wasted opportunity to evolve our culture into one that would nurture the greatness that humanity could be. But we ain't great, and we never have been, though for sure, an individual here and there, now and then has been -- great that is. Though to tell you the truth Alexander wasn't, and neither was his teacher Aristotle. Two utter failures that the world has adored for over two millennia. So wad ya gonna due -- aye?
Real democracy is something usually only found in a direct democracy. Representational Democracy, Republics, Constitutional Republic, etc, are a device used to lead the capite censi to believe that they live in a participatory democracy while allowing the plutocrats to stay in control of the things that matter to them. A few prefectures in Switzerland have a direct democracy, or if you allow, a REAL democracy, but as far as I am aware, they are the only such democracy in the world today and in all of history.
Personally I would prefer a sort of democratic neoconfusian techno-meritocracy, wherein people would not vote for candidates, but for the tests and various VR simulated scenarios submitted for consideration by experts in testing of psychological fitness and problem solving abilities that would be appropriate for the office being sought.
Tests that would be open to all citizens at all times in order to challenge those who held various government offices, and replace them if they scored higher than the current occupant.
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Before Facebook, before fake news, before incredible credibility gap, Google asked the general public for ideas that it should fund research into. I suggested a neutral nonprofit agency that would give every internet address that is a venue for information of any type a rating, for factualness of the information they are presenting and hoping to disseminate. . . . Crickets, in fact the crickets were so deafening that they still can't be heard.
I can just hear the objections in the form of projections of rationalized complications because of this or that trivial factor. It would have made a difference.
Now I am going to present myself, for the moment, as an irrelevant and fictitious personae who views themselves as knowing much more than the established recognized official experts in all matters having exclusively human, causal dynamics, because I do know more than them, so indulge my pronouncements as, though seemingly out of touch with official narratives, not only are they effective, but inescapable, unless you want your escape to be into a realm that is more like what you are presently attempting to escape than it is itself. But then why change something that hasn't worked in such a fine fashion up till now?'
That dear reader is up to you.
This is my one indulgence: playing Cassandra. Only this particular Cassandra is not only disinterested, but is exceedingly irrelevant, with nary a dog in the fight.
I do not know if democracy is a desirable form of government. I do not know if it is a possible from of government. I do not even know with good faith that it has even ever existed as a form of government for a so called sovereign nation in all of history.
One two three: but I do know this: . . . In order for democracy to transcend the status of a mere amalgamation of partisan viewpoints: in order for democracy to invoke the very physical epigenetic human potential of a large group to transcend the perception and conception of an individual in the consideration of questions they find relevant enough to hold up to democratic process, this process, cannot take place in a media of lies, rationalizations, guesses, opinion, and all manner of manipulation and disinformation. All you will get in such cases is confusion. Like you have.
I refer you to the example of the jelly bean urn, like you find at a stare fair, or charity event. A huge glass urn, filled with so many jelly beans that you can only take your best guess. If the n is large enough, that is, if enough yokels buy a chance and take a guess, the tendency will always be for the average of all guesses to be more accurate than the most accurate individual guess.
So to take the average answer would usually be taking the most accurate estimate. This is analogous to the manner in which the epigenetic democratic genius of large human groups can be utilized to succeed where even the best and brightest fail.
With this one huge caveat: this cannot take place in a culture of lies, manipulation, propaganda, disinformation, etc.
That would be the equivalent of having a hidden softball in the middle of the urn. You would still get a good answer, but not to the question you asked.
You can let the superficial idea of democracy destroy the real significance of democracy by protecting every crackpot who wants to spout some idiotic psychotic nonsense or you can value the higher potential of democracy enough to establish iron clad contingencies for anyone presenting any information to the public. Which would necessary include fines and penalties for those individuals and organizations presenting fictions and delusional nonsense as facts. These penalties should include total confiscation of all property worldwide and banishment from the USA.
That's what it takes for democracy to function at it's highest potential.
Personally I prefer RetrConfucianTechnoMeritocracy sans tyrant and police state. But I can see that you prefer what is automatic. . . . Entropy, . . . go eat you big mac pink boy, drink that coke: swill that liquid barbiturate, you deserve it.
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Crypto is one of the stupidest things ever invented. Well not the cryptocurrency per se, but the need to use all that energy instead of some other form of mining that did not waste energy and pollute the atmosphere with tons of greenhouse gas. How absolutely moronic. And the purveyors of this totally fictitious mining activity are considered cutting-edge awareness-wise. It's like living on the "special" planet. With the current system, all the real value, the value of the chips, and physical mining operation, and electricity is all destroyed up front, except for what can be salvaged by a sell-off of used equipment, and then a fictitious value is assigned to it, which is determined totally by the dynamics of a ponzi scheme. People are so far into the narrative that they can't see the trees for the bark. It's a business that, in reality, produces nothing, but consumes huge resources accomplishing this nothing.
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What is the reality? The reality is that Bernie is not only the most popular senator, not only the most popular politician in Congress, not only the most popular politician in the Country he is the most popular politician in the world -- because thinking and compassionate people the world over are praying that the USA will come out of this movement into unconsciousness and the promotion of a policies based on primitive emotions and knee-jerk reactions will come to an end. They know they need us, and they need us sane and humane if civilization is going to have any chance of surviving the psychopaths that have gotten themselves into positions of power via charisma and cunning.
This is not a game. If the right-wing nuts like Mercer, and his flunkies, like Trump, maintain the reigns of power: your are getting a deal on a squirt gun while your house is in a fire storm of lies and disinformation, on subjects that will determine the lives of your children and perhaps yourself.
End this insanity. Pick the right man for a change, not the richest, the best connected or the one that lies best, choose who you actually think is the best. . . not the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils is the choice that Goldman Sachs and the other banksters will give you.
This is your one chance in your lifetime to vote for a real person who is not a cats paw for elements of corruption.
It's not a sexy subject but it you pay attention, Bernie knows how important it is to get money out of elections.
How important is it? It is the most important issue. It is the basis of the legalized bribery that insures that your elected official are there: not to represent the voice of the people, no, rather they are there to make sure that the voice of the people never gets a hearing, and if by some chance on some issue it does get a hearing they will make sure it is never acted upon.
Don't be fearful and full of hate, humanity has a golden destiny that has been stolen from the many by the few. It is time to wake up and clarify our nation's values once more. Not in meaningless word or deceitful narratives designed to seduce by playing to fears and greed. We cannot move into the new age using a rear-view mirror for a guidance system. Don't be afraid, Bernie's views and positions are not more radical than the Scandinavian views and practices and even the vaunted quality of upward social mobility is higher in all of them then it is here. Not to mention personal happiness and financial security and safety. Don't let the people who own the media make you paranoid. They have a greedy reason for misrepresenting the fact as did Boomburg tonight with is talk of communism and such. It's just ridiculous that he could stand there and insult the public's intelligence so blatantly. Fear not, feel the Bern.
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For the sake of the one in a hundred thousand persons who can properly understand this, because they may come upon this, and are dear to me, here is the seed:
Total objectivity, in the moment, of one's own subjective process IS cosmic "consciousness".
No DMT or exogenous poisonous approximation molecules necessary (only a distortion anyway). For that one in a hundred thousand, you can do this, if you really want to, and you really want to, if your were born that way, and somehow stayed vital despite the automatic thought-centric associative function you call your mind. It doesn't get any more direct in words than this: though all words regarding this are incorrect and misleading. Including these. But they are the most accurate you will ever find. This is not a concept it is an action, woefully described in terms of it's own antithesis. The proof is in the doing.
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@Iambrendanjames Yeah a philosopher king would be nice too. Problem is, no one who deserves total authority would be wanting it, let alone striving to gain it. Even the ancient Greeks knew that the last person on earth that should be given power over others is someone who desires it. On the other hand, the big problem with democracy, other than the fact that it doesn't actually exist anywhere, is that it cannot function in anything approaching it's apex, in a culture of lies, partisanship spin and masses of imbeciles that consider meta-analysis of clinical trials fake news, but mimes made up by stoners living in their mom's basement like Q, to be the real hidden truth. As Gurdjieff once said, "Even God has no defense against stupidity." And like some other bully once said "Democracy is the worst possible system, except for all the others."
Personally I back the NeoCofucian TechnoMeritocracy movement that will develop out of necessity when there is an independent colony on Mars, waiting to reestablish human culture on Earth after it recovers from the next extinction level event, or the inevitable results of so many fools banging off the walls of their unrecognized insanity. Cheers. . . .
Oh, and perhaps you can answer this: why are there so many damn people named Brendan all of a sudden, and why has everyone forgotten that the proper word to use to describe the dynamics like those involved in the Russian aggression in Ukraine is "relentless" not "unrelenting"? You will definitely get a gold star on the forehead if you can answer both.
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The USA is not a democracy. It was never intended to be a democracy by the founders. It is a constitutional republic, which is a form of government designed to present the illusion of democracy to the populace while keeping real power and wealth in the hands of a few families and power elite plutocrats.
This may or may not be a good thing.
A real direct democracy, which is only evident in a few regions of Switzerland and nowhere else in the world, or history, would be a catastrophe in a culture which is most typified by it's public information being basically one or another narratives that are actually partisan webs of lies, as are evident in all our mass media venues.
You cannot have an effective democracy when there are no controls on the dissemination of disinformation and false narratives, by corporations chasing advertising revenues and scoundrels seeking power.
To think this will ever amount to anything other than the hodgepodge of insanity that is our public forum of debate is itself insane. It's time to grow up and wrest the sinews of our culture from the vision-less power seekers who control it. Human culture must evolve to propel humanity into it's possible golden destiny on earth and among the stars.
It is time to seriously move toward a culture that is a true meritocracy, a neoConfusian techno-meritocracy where there are government upgrades and not elections. Time to give up the old paradigms which are based on war and campaigns, deceit, and the scum rising to the top.
We have the technology and science to design a system that can truly determine the best candidates for positions of collective responsibility, by extreme and unbiased vetting, background checks, psychological tests, judgement evaluations by performance in intelligence tests and virtual scenarios, evaluation of past performance, sophistication of problem solving abilities and other verifiable objective methods rather than the standards now in use, (sex appeal, appearance, psychopathic tendencies, the ability to lie convincingly, what family you were born into, the animal lust to pursue power and how much you promise to steal for or from the one percent.)
Also there must be consequences for the dissemination of disinformation and conspiracy fantasies in mass media. I suggest caning and banishment after the confiscation of all wealth.
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If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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@GeraldJimerson-me3lo Regional Stability: A stable and secure Ukraine contributes to regional stability in Eastern Europe. A peaceful and stable neighborhood is in the best interest of the United States as it reduces the risk of conflict spillover and potential threats to U.S. allies in the region.
Promotion of Democratic Values: Ukraine has been striving to strengthen its democratic institutions. U.S. support for Ukraine's democratic development aligns with American values and promotes the spread of democracy, rule of law, and good governance.
Humanitarian Concerns: U.S. support for Ukraine helps address humanitarian concerns arising from conflicts. This includes assistance for internally displaced persons and refugees who may face displacement due to regional instability.
Deterrence of Aggression: Supporting Ukraine sends a message to Russia and other potential aggressors that the United States stands firmly against the violation of international norms and territorial integrity. This deterrence effect can contribute to a more stable global security environment.
Protection of Sovereignty: Upholding Ukraine's sovereignty reinforces the principle of territorial integrity, which is a cornerstone of international law. By supporting Ukraine's right to determine its own future, the U.S. strengthens the global norm against the unlawful annexation of territories.
Energy Security: Ukraine is strategically located in terms of energy transit routes, particularly for natural gas. Ensuring a stable Ukraine can contribute to energy security in the region and reduce Europe's dependence on Russian energy sources, which has broader implications for global energy dynamics.
Strategic Alliances: Supporting Ukraine strengthens U.S. partnerships with European allies who share common values and interests. It fosters a sense of solidarity within the transatlantic community, reinforcing the importance of collective security and cooperation.
Counterterrorism Cooperation: A stable Ukraine is better equipped to address security challenges, including potential terrorism threats. Cooperation between the U.S. and Ukraine in counterterrorism efforts can contribute to global security.
Market Opportunities: As Ukraine develops economically, it can become a market for U.S. goods and services. Trade and economic ties with a stable and prosperous Ukraine can benefit American businesses and contribute to economic growth.
Global Reputation: U.S. support for Ukraine enhances its reputation as a defender of international norms and a champion of sovereignty. This can positively influence the perception of the United States on the global stage.
In summary, supporting Ukraine against Russian aggression aligns with U.S. interests in regional stability, the promotion of democratic values, deterrence of aggression, and the protection of global norms. It also fosters strategic alliances, enhances energy security, and opens up economic opportunities for the United States.
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@DraconianPolicy In my view the bases from which the people, at a fair for instance, would arrive at their individual estimates of the number of jelly beans in a large urn is subjective also.
They have no real objective measure either of the total volume of the urn or the volume taken up by each bean.
It is a guess based on limited, though unobscurated perception, and no real possibility of actual measurement.
This is a phenomenon that is noted by the emerging field of epigenetics. Pardon the pun.
So we have an actual situation wherein ants are able to function as an efficient colony, or humans are able to make the most accurate estimate of the number of beans by the average of all guesses.
If you are interested in an entertaining exposition of same, Radio Lab did a show about this entitled Epigenetics, or something like that, .
If the result obtained by the mean of all the guesses were dependent on some form of objective measurement, then of course your objection would be valid. However this is not the case.
This phenomenon would be equally in effect in a voting process that determined the goals and objectives of a government {not the winning candidate} when such choices were presented to the public without any spin of any kind.
For instance instead of voting for a person, all voting would be upon issues such as. "What percentage of the national budget should be spent on the military?" With a blank space in the ballot were a citizen could provide a percentage they believe to be appropriate.
Remember: this citizen has not been subjected to any disinformation or propaganda, or even any idiotic pundit spin, just such facts as are available at the time, without "expert" prognostication about the resulting impact of various outcomes.
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@DraconianPolicy Certainly though it can be said that there is no correct answer to such questions as that about the military budget, it could be seen that outlier answers such as "We should spend one hundred percent of the national budget on defense", will be balanced out by both the mass of opinion and the outlier opinions on the opposite end of such a continuum.
It really doesn't matter to the mechanism in play if there is an objectively correct answer. This will still provide the best possible option at a higher rate than any other method that can be employed.
You bring up the objection that everyone will be bringing their own prejudices to their personal opinions when they vote. Thus the death penalty for anyone that propagates falsehood or unsubstantiated news as facts.
Try to imagine a culture that is not awash in disinformation and propaganda by various interests. One were the pundits, instead of filling up air time with what will increase advertising revenue, will simply say, "I don't know." or "This matter is unknown or still in question." when addressing any issue that is not a proven fact. (Strangely reminds me of the Platonic debate as to whether new poetic forms would lead to the degeneration of society.}
As long as the populace is not immersed in disinformation from which they form their opinions, their individual attitudes will only serve to insure the effectiveness of the results of such questions.
Though really this "democracy really works, but not why you think it does" proposition is a minor and really fungible element of the Techno-Neo Confucian course that I have proposed.
We presently live in a world were some governments call themselves democracies and some communist, but the reality is that in both cases, with few exceptions, they are both functionally fascist.
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I hear a lot of talk here. Talk is cheap, and when it comes to the types of power-elites you are addressing, no matter how petty their power actually is, as in the case of most police, money and only money talks. Though people are told they are "born equal", there is no segment of our society were there is actual equality. Obviously no two people are equal in their physical, emotional, and mental aspects. Even twins are not equal in many regards. But the one area where we could be equal because of our own will to make it so, is equality before the law. As you all know, equality before the law, is a joke in America. If you are police you are more than equal before the law. If you are wealthy you have access to equality and more so in a justice system that is distinct in function from that seen by an average person caught up in the life ruining process. If you are someone like Trump, you thrive because this inequality can be turned against anyone you want. Then you can brag about how you could get away with murder in public and have your idiot supporters cheer when you say it.
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The biggest single factor in climate change is the generation of greenhouse gases. Far more greenhouse gases are produced by animal agriculture than any other source (87% by animal ag as compared to 13% by all other sources: cars, planes, electric plants, etc.: combined)
The most important thing a person can do to address climate change, as an individual, is to stop buying the products of animal agriculture, such as meat, dairy products, leather goods, and furs.
If enough people do this, we will survive, if not, our grandchildren will be forced to decide if they should eat their babies in the hope of surviving a few more weeks when crops fail globally.
That's the choice: do we indulge our blind instinctive desires and rationalize them with self-centered reactive opinions, or do we leave future generations a planet worth living on?
Or do we just go on fruitlessly bitching about the injustice of things, and put off acting until it's beyond too late.
My personal bet is that the vast majority of us, even if convinced of the dire reality of the global climate situation, will go on with our rapacious lifestyles unabated.
Even so, those are the facts. Now -- are we rational moral beings, or just mad machines that really have no control over ourselves?
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Politics sucks ass. Isn't it apparent to everyone by now that our political system is an archaic artifact? An artifact based on humanities inability to escape it's bestial warlike nature . . . :campaigns, winner take all victories, leaders who neither lead (excepting the advancement of the concerns of their patrons) nor have the wisdom to make intelligent impartial decisions on the issues of the day. This political web of deceit is a self-perpetuating parasite that warps collective social culture and is itself continually warped due to shameful self-interested exploitation by those who control the economy through control of debt manipulation. Interests and principalities that spew false narratives which have contaminated every aspect of our expectations of daily life, and our future aspirations (or lack of them).
I suggest to you that there are other alternatives. Far more efficient alternatives, that would benefit the whole of society and reduce the corruption that is not only a systemic disease of our political system, but is now the very sinew, marrow, and circulatory system, of a body politic that has done everything possible to free itself from both morality and justice through legislative and legal complexities, technicality, outright lies, and all manner of fuckery.
It is time to evolve folks. Like a cool pool on a hot day, once you take the plunge it's refreshing and rejuvenating, but before you take that plunge there is hesitation and a resistance to a state change. And we must change the state of our state unless we consider moving into the future by looking through a rear-view mirror and stepping on our own dicks every step of the way while perpetually bitiching about it to be some kind of desirable human prerogative. Because as it is, it will never be able to meet our real human needs or provide anything more than updated reruns of the same old conundrums.
If human culture and civilization is to advance it must evolve to a higher state, a higher system of state, which will nurture higher states of mind in the populace, not continually drag it back by aggravating the primal survival instinct in a technological environment wherein this instinct is counterproductive on numerous levels.
I suggest to you that a body politic based on a NeoConfusian Techno-Meritocracy would not only be vastly superior for the state of the state, state of the economy, state of human advancement, and our collective state of mind, that any comparison to the present drunken knife fight in a gilded bordello that passes for our government would be comical.
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If you are gonna fact check all Trumps lies you will need a full time
staff, and a two hour show dedicated to it each day. Trump can actually
lie faster than he can talk. He lies just because he can't help
himself, not that he wants to, but he is a compulsive -- that's
COMPULSIVE liar. He lies even when it makes no sense, even when it
makes no difference to anyone, even when it's against he own best
interests. He is the ultimate sock puppet, the ultimate distraction for
the profit of the people that have gained the largest transfer of
wealth in American history. Guess who that would be? Really -- guess.
One person it ain't for sure, is you, and 99 percent of his rube
supporters. The Conman in Chief: the punishment inflicted on America
by the insanely greedy upper upper, who he has tried to get to keep
supporting him with dark money and tactics, by giving them windfall
after windfall, and his base of political support: his insanely
credulous know-less-than-nothing supporters -- along with the flock of
scum-bag sycophant enablers that lick his butt. If you ain't sick to
the point of gagging, of ALL TRUMP ALL THE TIME -- then you're probably
too dumb to know you're stupid, . . . or very rich.
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EA was started with money from VW group as part of fine they had to pay for planned and executed felony cheating on emissions tests. They rigged the car computers to report lower emissions and circumvent US law. How could you expect any system that was initiated as a part of punishment to work? Tesla's system works. Your concern is irrelevant and smacks of a Teslsa hater, like a union shill, or a dealership owner/investor, big oil -- take your pick, they continuously flood the media with lies about Tesla or concerns that are meaningless like yours. Tesla has paid back every dollar the govenment granted it with interest Less than four years after borrowing $465 million from the government, Tesla has become the first automaker to repay its loan under the Energy Department's Advanced Technology Vehicle Manufacturing program. GM only appeared to pay back its bailout loan. But the debt was only part of the automaker bailout package. Through the Troubled Asset Relief Program, the Treasury gave GM $49.5 billion, most of which was converted into an ownership stake in the form of stock. Through this equity stake, the government still owns 61 percent of GM. That's why it is refferred to as Government Motors, a total rip off of the taxpayer, by repaying in stock that lost value in seconds, and has a very real chance of becoming worthless in the coming decade.
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This is great on one hand and it is total bullshit on another. The world has to step up in Ukraine. The entire world is being held hostage by nuclear blackmail. It is the biggest bluff of all history. Russia will not use nukes unless Russia is attacked within it's boarders. When asked if he would respond in kind to a nuclear barrage that hit Russia if, it's response would end human civilization Putin responded, "Of course, what would the world be without Russia?" The correct answer to that question is: "Better". The world would be a better place for everyone without Russia, and though they don't know or won't admit it, it would be a better place for Russians most of all. Why have the leaders in the free world lost their balls, especially Germany, remember the wall, you gutless German leaders, remember the Berlin crisis, were would you be today if the free world had not defied the soviets? Still in hell eating bowls of tears that where.
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I don't know who Cenk thinks he is yelling at/preaching to? He doesn't have any power, and no one who watches his show has any either, so really he just sounds impotent, and silly.
People's lives would be a lot more harmonious if they stopped believing that what they think matters.
It doesn't even matter to they themselves, or else they wouldn't be all foaming at the mouth to convince other people that they are right.
It's simple really, if you have mega $ you can pay to have what you think matter, and if you command armed men, you can force your opinions on others, but if you are you, or me, like almost everyone, well, what you think just doesn't matter at all. It's lots of fun, in a not-fun kind of way, but is really a delusional waste of time to believe that our opinion on matters that you will have no effect on at all, matter for some reason. It doesn't..
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@lostpony4885 Yes: my guess is that at first silver and gold will be the money, then as the harsh reality dawns on people, freeze dried food, seed, and bullets. Then we will eat each other and our babies, like has happened so many times before in famines.
If this were inevitable it would be one thing, but we could totally reverse the climate change in very little time, but -- and this is a big but -- we would have to reforest all the land that has been cleared for the grazing of livestock. And basically people would have to stop eating meat and dairy products, which they are quite addicted to. So, though complete wasteland, like you find in the Middle East can be revived in just a few years, by stopping the grazing of sheep and goats and replanting native grasses, also the meat and dairy industry would have to disappear because people stopped buying their products. By the reforestation of the land that is now used for grazing, we would reduce the emissions of greenhouse gases by 87%.
It is not just the one percent and their political minions that would have to evolve consciously, it is the average person. That I find most improbable.
What I see happening is too little too late, and a massive die off of humanity, with the end of civilization as we know it.
And of course the one percent, hiding in their bunkers in New Zealand and private islands, will eventually be dug out and killed in horrible ways. -- Just saying.
Maybe Elon Musk and company will do better on Mars, if they make it, and eventually re-civilize a world that has descended into a new dark age.
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Jan Jansen Come on, they are not even close to the only ones who "speak the truth" Try Democracy Now, The Real News Network, Jimmy Dore, The Hill, Rising, Michael Moore Rumble, The Damage Report, Secular Talk, Humanist Report, Useful Idiots, The Grey Zone, Kim Iverson, Status Coup, The Progressive Voice, Bill Maher, Redacted Tonight, Moment of Clarity, The Rational National, Hard Lense, The Empire Report, and on and on, and all of them manage to tell the truth without the continual whining tone. You can search any of the terms I have listed an you will find progressive Current Event Vids.
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The truth about climate change! The truth about climate change is that greenhouse gases are the main cause of global warming.
The truth about greenhouse gases is that 87% of the greenhouse gas is produced by animal agriculture.
The truth about fighting for the future of civilization is that it is a far more significant act to stop buying and using the products of animal agriculture than it is to march and bitch about any of the many different processes that in total, combined, only account for 13% of the greenhouse gases that humans produce.
The truth about humans is that they would rather bitch and moan or ignore the situation until the choice is not whether one should adjust their rapacious lifestyle to have a diet that is plant based, but rather whether or not their grandchildren should eat their babies in order to live a little longer.
The fact that it is healthier to eat a nutritionally dense plant based diet than any other kind, is, along with saving advanced human civilization, also of some benefit.
The truth about ignorance, is that the new modern form of ignorance, such as that proudly exhibited by the Trump cultists, is not the lack of facts, but rather total immunity to them.
The truth about the chances of avoiding a major disruption of all human civilization is about the same as it is for the people who are too stupid to realize how dumb they are to suddenly become ashamed of their ignorance instead of being proud of it.
. . . Or about the same chance as someone who is addicted to meat and dairy coming to understand that what is killing them is also destroying the very fabric that makes the environment habitable by humans.
So much easier to belief the disinformation diffused by the meat and dairy industries, who have taken a page from the tobacco handbook -- one only needs to instill doubt about real scientific data by introducing biased lies posing as science, brought to you by the same evil bastards who fought in the courts and arena of public opinion championing tobacco.
Don't point your fingers at the pollution caused by ICE automobiles, or jets, or electric generators running on coal or oil, these causes are important, yes, but diversionary.
Look in the mirror when you sit down to eat, if you are eating meat or dairy products, then you are personally advancing the degradation of the world climate, and your concerns about climate change, if you have any, are essentially hypocrisy.
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Comment part 1
Sheltered as I am, and as much a fool as I allow myself to be on a daily basis: I will now proceed my pouring from the empty into the void by giving a brief outline of how an optimal human government should be arranged. In fact, one objective look at the so-called political systems, and their underpinning, that populate our planet should inform the observer that what is happening is just window dressing on barbarism, it's just a theater of the mind, a velvet glove on an iron fist.
I don't know of any system of government or rule that rises above the idiotic, or so it would seem, if the object of the system is to optimize, as much as is possible, all honorable aspects of human existence, and to curtail those commonly deemed as undesirable, the present systems of governance found on earth are archaic trash: just an excuse for the same old kleptocratic autocompulsive psychopaths, to further inflate their already vein-glorious mini-minds in the vacuous reflections of the sycophants that surround and enable their insanity because of their own highly deviated and corrupted survival impulse.
They wish they were a real boy, but despite the world of suffering they create by trying to fill their truly vacuous lives with babbles of all types, real life eludes them, and always will.
Even ole' Socrates knew that a person that seeks power should never be trusted with it.
Human political culture is a joke. An eighth grade class could come up with a better system than the battered whore the banksters and one percent -- have afforded the world. It's a joke, a sin, and a wasted opportunity to evolve our culture into one that would nurture the greatness that humanity could be. But we ain't great, and we never have been, though for sure, an individual here and there, now and then has been -- great that is. Though to tell you the truth Alexander wasn't, and neither was his teacher Aristotle. Two utter failures that the world has adored for over two millennia. So wad ya gonna due -- aye?
Real democracy is something usually only found in a direct democracy. Representational Democracy, Republics, Constitutional Republic, etc, are a device used to lead the capite censi to believe that they live in a participatory democracy while allowing the plutocrats to stay in control of the things that matter to them. A few prefectures in Switzerland have a direct democracy, or if you allow, a REAL democracy, but as far as I am aware, they are the only such democracy in the world today and in all of history.
Personally I would prefer a sort of democratic neoconfusian techno-meritocracy, wherein people would not vote for candidates, but for the tests and various VR simulated scenarios submitted for consideration by experts in testing of psychological fitness and problem solving abilities that would be appropriate for the office being sought.
Tests that would be open to all citizens at all times in order to challenge those who held various government offices, and replace them if they scored higher than the current occupant.
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@Picklemedia Did they? I'm not sure about that, and I don't consider it important enough to research, and I am certainly not going to accept your belief as a fact until proven. Long and short of it is, I don't give a fuck about Hillary and if I never hear or read her name again I couldn't care less. As for Democracy now not being perfect. Most discerning people realize that DN has an adjenda, a preference, a bias, it's just far more of a human preference than the corporate controlled world-view that you can get on most cable stations, but its hardly more objective. They are selling themselves mostly to knee-jerk liberal types who suffer from guilt over actions that they had nothing to do with, and think that anyone who doesn't go along with the PC Orwellian subsumtion of the language by the continual use of PC nomenclature is a fascist. Politics in the present USA is just theater, just a distraction so people don't see what is actually going on (until its too late). The present situation in the USA was brought about by the power-elite acting in thier own psychotic best-interest and changing one law after another so they could legalize their former and intended crimes. We have become a corrupt nation, and those who many people believe are upstanding are often the most corrupt. But if someone keeps carrying on about Hillary on DN preople will not take them serously, other than to think they are seriously disturbed.
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If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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@benjaminsmith2287 If your decisions are made on whats under the sheet metal instead of whether or not you like the shape of the sheet metal -- Tesla has no competition in the USA or anywhere else -- IF your decisions are based on functional engineering and aerodynamics. If they are based on other factors like the emotional appeal of a certain style, there are the Fords, the Hyundais, the Lucid, the Polestar, the GM trucks and car, the Nissan, the Toyota, the mini, the Audis, the BMWs, the Mercedes, the Pinafarina, the Porsches, the VWs, and the Rimac. And probably some others that I couldn't think of.
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@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 I see you have a sense of humor, but ultimately no sense of sense.
FYI: America's most intense growth rate had more to do with the fact that almost all other means of production had been demolished in WW2 than the tax rate. So the USA was producing about half of all manufactured goods worldwide. Although I personally would like to see a return to the tax rates of the Eisenhower era, the current legalized corruption of campaign finance laws will never allow anything but more of the present dynamic and perhaps an even more weighted version of it.
The American middle class was mostly the result of the GI bill post WW2.
Communism and Fascism are about mutually evil in effect if not theory, though communism clearly has the lead in murders of its own citizens.
Climate change is a fact, whether or not it is ultimately a positive or negative has yet to be known: we are overdue for another ice age. Which would render all our considerations moot forever.
Well my fore-bearers fought for the north and were part of the underground railroad in PA, and fought in the Revolutionary war, but in America, that actually counts for nothing, and any immigrate is as American as I am.
You do know that by far most of the slaves brought to America went to Brazil and Cuba, and that only five percent of southerners actually had any slaves. You do know that though it is rarely brought up by left wing puddin' heads, there were more African slaves exported into the middle east than the Americas, and that almost everyone alive is the descendant of slaves, as opposed to King Arthur and Cleopatra.
I am still waiting for my reparations from the Catholic Church for enslaving some of my ancestors during Rome. Of course there is a big difference between being worked to death in a Roman lead mine and being worked in a cotton field. For two centuries Islamic pirates raided every coastal town in Europe for slaves, maybe the Saudis should pay reparations for the millions of people worked to death in the name of Islam, because white slaves were so cheap in the north African slave markets that it often did not make economic sense to even feed them enough to survive.
IQ is associated with race: Asians and Jews are the most intelligent, although the concept of race is a total illusion. There are about seven main human genetic variants and five of them appear only in Africa. Races of man are most like breeds of dog, not actual subspecies, just various characteristics brought about by variying rates of inbreeding or line-breeding because of geography and social factors. But along these lines, I bet that you would deny the different levels of testosterone in various "racial" groups and its effect on a propensity to violent behavior. As a survivor of a murderous attack by a black mob against anyone who was white in 1968, and further attacked at a black power rally in 69' which I attended with a black friend in support, I have no illusions about the capacity of all groups to revert to mindless violence, Nazis or not.
OH yeah, I am neither a believer nor an atheist nor a Agnostic, I think the question of is there a god is wrong.
About your final comment: you flatter yourself, how pedestrian. You gun is a pop gun son.
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The USA is not a democracy. It was never intended to be a democracy by the founders. It is a constitutional republic, which is a form of government designed to present the illusion of democracy to the populace while keeping real power and wealth in the hands of a few families and power elite plutocrats.
This may or may not be a good thing.
A real direct democracy, which is only evident in a few regions of Switzerland and nowhere else in the world, or history, would be a catastrophe in a culture which is most typified by it's public information being basically one or another narratives that are actually partisan webs of lies, as are evident in all our mass media venues.
You cannot have an effective democracy when there are no controls on the dissemination of disinformation and false narratives, by corporations chasing advertising revenues and scoundrels seeking power.
To think this will ever amount to anything other than the hodgepodge of insanity that is our public forum of debate is itself insane. It's time to grow up and wrest the sinews of our culture from the vision-less power seekers who control it. Human culture must evolve to propel humanity into it's possible golden destiny on earth and among the stars.
It is time to seriously move toward a culture that is a true meritocracy, a neoConfusian techno-meritocracy where there are government upgrades and not elections. Time to give up the old paradigms which are based on war and campaigns, deceit, and the scum rising to the top.
We have the technology and science to design a system that can truly determine the best candidates for positions of collective responsibility, by extreme and unbiased vetting, background checks, psychological tests, judgement evaluations by performance in intelligence tests and virtual scenarios, evaluation of past performance, sophistication of problem solving abilities and other verifiable objective methods rather than the standards now in use, (sex appeal, appearance, psychopathic tendencies, the ability to lie convincingly, what family you were born into, the animal lust to pursue power and how much you promise to steal for or from the one percent.)
Also there must be consequences for the dissemination of disinformation and conspiracy fantasies in mass media. I suggest caning and banishment after the confiscation of all wealth.
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@toomuch8232 I have learned to differentiate between bullshit and reality which apparently you have not. You don't know the difference between communism, socialism, and the form of capitalism known as democratic socialism. All you seem to have learned is the brainwashing that the power-elite spoon feeds fools 24/7.
Fact: All the democratic socialist countries are capitalist.
Fact: Neither Venezuela, nor Cuba is a social democracy.
Fact: All the democratic socialist countries have, better and less expensive medical care than we do -- unless you are very wealthy and even then in many cases they are superior.
Fact: All the democratic socialist countries have free or very inexpensive higher education.
Fact: All the democratic socialist countries have financial safety nets and inexpensive or free childcare, and maternity leaves for both parents.
Fact: All the democratic socialist countries have paid vacations that are usually about five weeks a year.
Fact: The citizens of democratic socialist countries are happier than Americans on average.
Fact: And this one should just make you slap your face if you have a brain in your head: All the democratic socialist countries have higher social mobility than the USA. That mean that if you are born into the lower financial class you have a better chance of ending up rich in Denmark then you do in the USA.
So it seem that you are the one who has learned nothing in all your years. I, on the other hand started out as a near fascist libertarian/republican, but learned the truth about the power-elite who rule our country through deceit and disinformation, and when that doesn't work, through paid off politicians and men with guns. You can easily verify all the facts yourself, if you even have the smarts to actually tell truth from right-wingnut propaganda. Which I highly suspect you don't and will rather respond with nothing but more meaningless bullshit.
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@R4dr1ar Not really. Take December sales for which we have good data. Best selling VW model VW e-up sold 7, 789 cars. Best selling Tesla model -- model 3 sold 27,445. Second best VW model ID4 sold 6,790 units. Second best selling Tesla model Y sold 8,085. In fact Telsa model 3 sold more units than the four top selling VW group EVs combined.
And noi the new Tesla plant in Germany is ramping up. So the cars will be built in Germany, and many of the parts are made in Germany even for American made Teslas, and large parts of the car were engineered in Germany, so that along with the fact that Tesla is the number one selling BEV in Europe, and the most desired throws a little factual light on your fantastic assumptions. All models sold for months in advance, your idea that Europeans don't trust American cars just falls apart. The quality of the Teslas made at the new plants is phenomenal, and we expect the Teslas built in Germany to be the best Teslas in the world, until Austin gears up. Then they wlll be some of the best Teslas built. Customer support could use some improvement, and that is just the nature of a business that is expanding so rapidly.
I mean basically the ideas you expressed have no basis in reality. Unless you accept the yammerings of the commercial media and auto media as reality, and anyone who knows how the sausage is made with free junkets, and free cars, and free gas to reviewers, and hundreds of millions spent on advertising time and space in the same media that reviews cars, knows that Tesla doesn't do any of that. They do not advertise, they do not have special vehicles that they loan out for reviews and testing, which all other OEMs do, and they do not wine and dine the media. Surely you can figure out where you went wrong. It is a common mistake, that will be totally rectified when your neighbor buys a Tesla and tells you all about it.
And you idea that everyone will be able to do over the air updates like Tesla now can, in a few years is a huge assumption, and nearly delusional based on the data to date. Tesla cars have one software dev, VW EVs have like hundreds of different software developers that they are trying to integrate, and not doing so well at it.
Tesla is a different generation than all its competition and they will never catch up because Tesla innovates at a greater pace than any of them. In five years some will have caught up to were Tesla is now, but Tesla will be long gone. Solid gone.
Take a look at the built quality of the German Teslas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBgahsGyj9U&list=TLPQMjkwMzIwMjL2ux5T7bf3Zw&index=2
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The corporate news is still trying to black-out Bernie. Bernie, and
Tulsi are the only candidates with any integrity, something the networks
and cable news despises.
Bernie understands that the lynch-pin of all the legalized corruption in our constitutional republic is campaign finance.
What now passes for "business as usual" was not long ago a criminal act.
But many progressives do not understand this. They are bored by the
subject but excited by all kinds of meaningless PC rhetoric.
While I was at a Nader rally in Santa Cruz back during his 2000 run, he
said he had time for one more question. I yelled out "Campaign
finance!" When he indicated that this was the
subject he would address there was an audible groan from this most progressive crowd
in America's most leftest town, .
I guess most people never consider the fact that if Nader had won, we
would have never attacked Iraq and the 2008 great recession (where-in
the same people who caused it were put in charge of fixing it and
managed to steal trillions in public funds for themselves and the
institutions they hid their criminal activities behind) would never have
occurred.
And I would like to remind everyone that the criminals behind this, who
had bribed the legislative branch with campaign contributions, were also
the people who changed the laws to allow this disastrous turn of our
republic. Which was unequaled until the retrograde idiot section of the
supreme court passed Citizens United and other decisions of a
antiAmerican nature that benefited the one-percent and their
brain-washed right-wing idiot minions.
Sorry if this comment went on for longer than a Twitter-brain can attend
to. But if you notice, the comments that always get the most likes are
always the most obvious and usually the most knee-jerk in nature.
Never believe the "first-story": whether given by the government, the
corporate news, the republocrats, or your own reactionary quite
mechanical mind
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@Tomzuki. Since YOuTube will not allow a link to an outside source that would explain to you the fundamentals of moto suspension here is what Chat GPT has to say on the matter.
Low unsprung mass is crucial in motorcycles used on the street for several reasons:
Improved Handling and Responsiveness: Unsprung mass refers to the weight of components not supported by the suspension system, such as wheels, tires, and part of the motorcycle's suspension. Reducing unsprung mass enhances the motorcycle's ability to respond quickly to changes in the road surface. This results in improved handling, better maneuverability, and increased responsiveness, especially during cornering and quick direction changes.
Enhanced Suspension Performance: A lower unsprung mass allows the suspension system to react more efficiently to bumps, irregularities, and other road imperfections. The suspension can follow the contours of the road more accurately, providing a smoother and more controlled ride. This is particularly important for street motorcycles where comfort and stability are essential.
Increased Traction: Lower unsprung mass contributes to better tire contact with the road surface. Improved traction is essential for safe street riding, especially during acceleration, braking, and cornering. With reduced unsprung mass, the tires can maintain better contact with the road, leading to enhanced grip and stability.
Reduced Vibrations and Fatigue: Motorcycles with lower unsprung mass tend to experience fewer vibrations transmitted from the road to the rider. This not only enhances comfort but also reduces rider fatigue during long rides. The overall smoothness of the ride contributes to a more enjoyable and less tiring experience for street riders.
Braking Performance: Low unsprung mass is beneficial for braking performance. The reduced weight in the unsprung components allows the braking system to work more effectively, resulting in quicker and more controlled stops. This is crucial for street motorcycles where sudden stops may be necessary in traffic or emergency situations.
Fuel Efficiency: While the impact on fuel efficiency may be relatively small, reducing unsprung mass can contribute to overall energy efficiency. Lighter components require less energy to move, and this can result in slightly improved fuel economy.
In summary, low unsprung mass in street motorcycles enhances handling, responsiveness, traction, and overall ride quality. These factors are vital for a positive riding experience, safety, and performance on the diverse road conditions encountered in everyday street riding.
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Democrats Load Platform Committee to Stop Progressive Movement
Democrats Load Platform Committee to Stop Progressive Movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1NlZTH70e8
DNC Chair Tom Perez is stacking party committees to sideline Sanders and to push a corporate agenda that kills progressive ideas and campaigns.
How much more evidence do people need to understand that the DNC is composed of cheating compromised co-opted scumbags? Slowly via the new distributed media of the internet people are learning about their continuing ongoing dirty tricks in the service of their oligarch masters.
The cheating has already begun with the introduction of an app that Iowa caucus will use to report local results.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbrvAu7g4w8
From the sellouts at NPR:
Iowa's Democrats hope the new app lets the party get results out to
the public quicker, says Troy Price, the chairman of the state party.
In an interview, Price declined to provide more details about which
company or companies designed the app, or about what specific measures
have been put in place to guarantee the system's security.
But security is a priority, he says. The state party worked with the national party's cybersecurity team, and with
Harvard University's Defending Digital Democracy project, but Price
declined to answer directly whether any third party has investigated the
app for vulnerabilities, as many cybersecurity experts recommend.
"We as the party have taken this very seriously, and we know how important
it is for us to make sure that our process is secure and that we protect
the integrity of the process," Price says. "We want to make sure we are
not relaying information that could be used against us."
Unlike many states in which local and state officials oversee the presidential
primary election, in Iowa the state party is responsible for
administering, staffing and funding the caucuses, relying primarily on
trained but unpaid volunteers.
Cybersecurity experts interviewed by NPR said that the party's decision to withhold the
technical details of its app doesn't do much to protect the system — and
instead makes it hard to have complete confidence in it.
"The idea of security through obscurity is almost always a mistake," says
Doug Jones, a computer science professor at the University of Iowa and a
former caucus precinct leader. "Drawing the blinds on the process
leaves us, in the public, in a position where we can't even assess the
competence of the people doing something on our behalf."
DNC Chair Tom Perez is stacking party committees to sideline Sanders and to push a corporate agenda that kills progressive ideas and campaigns.
How much more evidence do people need to understand that the DNC is composed of cheating compromised co-opted scumbags? Slowly via the new distributed media of the internet people are learning about their continuing ongoing dirty tricks in the service of their oligarch masters.
The cheating has already begun with the introduction of an app that Iowa caucus will use to report local results.
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We should all just listen to the best president of all time and do exactly what he says. Because it's obvious from how the people around him behave that he is the best and has a real handle on the reality of the situation.
I mean any man with his name on buildings all over the world must be a great leader.
Stop all the bitching and fact checking and line up and applaud him and watch everything he does and listen to every thing he says. He is so fascinating and not like all you dumb experts and intellectuals, he is entertaining like a slow motion train wreck. And like the pope he cannot be wrong.
Actually he is every bit a real life super-hero. He is a very stable genius and all the tuff people support him. And they have guns and the democrats mostly don't.
Yeh Trump, best president ever, and the savior of the USA. And stop laughing at his hair and fake tan, he is supposed to look his best
he is the spokes-model for the USA. Trump totally represents us and theAmericans who voted him in are really smart and the envy of the world.
Plus he has the best ratings.
So: all you smart asses out there just remember whatever you do, do not laugh in this god-like mans face, no matter what he says. You just do not have the superior IQ like him, and don't understand how deeply profound his statements are, and that they are both earnest and sarcastic at the same time. He is a quantum president and his statements only mean what he says in retrospect like Schrodinger's cat statements. He is magic, almost like Jesus or Hitler, and if you openly laugh at him, he will punish us by going away. So don't laugh in his face when you are with him in person, not that anyone near him has the balls or ovaries to do it anyway. A point he proves everyday, you delightful scallywags and misanthropic sycophants. Good job, how did we ever deserved the wonderful leaders we have. Without you guys we would really be hard pressed to find a war worth fighting and that would hurt the economy.
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The biggest single factor in climate change is the generation of greenhouse
gases.
Far more greenhouse gases are produced by animal agriculture than any
other source (87% by animal ag as compared to 13% by all other sources,
cars, planes, electric plants, etc.: combined)
The most important thing a person can do to address climate change, as an individual, is to stop buying the products of animal agriculture, such as meat, dairy products, leather goods, and furs.
If enough people do this, we will survive, if not, our grandchildren will be forced to decide if they should eat their babies in the hope of surviving a few more weeks when crops fail globally.
That's the choice: do we indulge our blind instinctive desires and rationalize them
with self-centered reactive opinions, or do we leave future generations an earth worth living on.
Or we can just go on fruitlessly bitching about the injustice of things, and put off acting until it's beyond too late.
My personal bet is that the vast majority of us, even if convinced of the dire reality of the global climate situation will go on with our rapacious lifestyles unabated.
Even so, those are the facts. Now -- are we rational moral beings, or just mad machines that really have no control over ourselves?
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If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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The corporate news is still trying to black-out Bernie. Bernie, and Tulsi are the only candidates with any integrity, something the networks and cable news despises.
Bernie understands that the lynch-pin of all the legalized corruption in our constitutional republic is campaign finance.
What now passes for "business as usual" was not long ago a criminal act.
But many progressives do not understand this. They are bored by the subject but excited by all kinds of meaningless PC rhetoric.
While I was at a Nader rally in Santa Cruz back during his 2000 run, he said he had time for one more question. I yelled out "Campaign finance!" There was an audible groan from this most progressive crowd in America's most leftest town, when he indicated that this was the subject he would address.
I guess most people never consider the fact that if Nader had won, we would have never attacked Iraq and the 2008 great recession (where-in the same people who caused it were put in charge of fixing it and managed to steal trillions in public funds for themselves and the institutions they hid their criminal activities behind) would never have occurred.
And I would like to remind everyone that the criminals behind this, who had bribed the legislative branch with campaign contributions, were also the people who changed the laws to allow this disastrous turn of our republic. Which was unequaled until the retrograde idiot section of the supreme court passed Citizens United and other decisions of a antiAmerican nature that benefited the one-percent and their brain-washed right-wing idiot minions.
Sorry if this comment went on for longer than a Twitter-brain can attend to. But if you notice, the comments that always get the most likes are always the most obvious and usually the most knee-jerk in nature. Never believe the "first-story": whether given by the government, the corporate news, the republocrats, or your own reactionary quite mechanical mind
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Have to say you peeked my interest in this matter. It was easy to find Hyman on a list of MDs who you should not trust. And on a quack list along with Grundy and other perveyors of unscientific nonsense. Here is some of what I found.
". . . Mark Hyman’s pseudoscience includes popular detox diets (which also means buying his questionable – and expensive – detox supplements), giving health advice that is not backed by the body of scientific evidence, and promoting a bogus autism cure. He also propagates the false belief that vaccines are related to autism, and false information about heavy metals. He recommends bogus testing for heavy metals and expensive “chelation” therapy (a test that may be harmful) that he has ordered on “tens of thousands of patients.”
Harriet Hall, MD has a excellent pieced about Mark Hyman and functional medicine that includes the following:
“He sells dietary supplements and detox cleanses. He has said that the law of thermodynamics doesn’t apply in living organisms, and that current medicine is as obsolete as bloodletting or phrenology. He says diseases don’t exist. He is essentially a germ theory denialist, saying it’s the terrain, not the germ.”
“Hyman includes standard advice about a healthy lifestyle, but he mixes it indiscriminately with advice that is based on speculation rather than on credible evidence. And he makes claims that defy belief (curing autism with cod liver oil) and many that are demonstrably not true.”
Hyman is listed on Quackwatch as an author whose books promote misinformation, espouse unscientific theories, and/or contain unsubstantiated advice. He also advises GOOP, and his advice seems to be in line with other GOOP Doctors.
When scientific experts reviewed evidence on fats and cardiovascular disease and it didn’t align with Hyman’s own ideas, he endorsed an article by “RebootedBody.com” promoting the idea that the American Heart Association is a terrorist organization.
Here’s another example of his misinformation (and fear-mongering) from Mark Hyman’s twitter account, a comment about wheat and sugar that does not make biochemical or nutritional sense. . . . "
etc.
So, I personally will stick with the actual science, not the "keep them in doubt" science offered by the divers studies sponsered by the meat and dairy industry, or snake oil salesmen who went to med school. People consider any MD as experts in nutrition, while nothing could be further from the truth. Unless they have pursued it as an independent study after med school they typically know very little about nutrtition. But people love to let "authorities" do their thinking for them.
I am in my seventies and Hyman looks like he could be my father. I do not eat animal products, I lift weights, and can keep it up all night. That's my anecdotal two cents. I get plenty of protein from plant sources and the belief that animal sources of protein are necessary for healthy aging is proven nonsense.
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Not just Portugal, Switzerland ended their criminal junky problem by offering free drugs in clincil settings along with the offer of therapy.
The solution is to take the profit out of drugs, by decriminalizing them and making cocaine available to the fools who use it cheap. At one point when I was young I had a job doing fix-up and painting around the house of a retired general of the US armed forces. His wife had prescriptions for both cocaine and opium, legally as nose drops and paregoric. She had bottles of them in virtually every room of the house and she seemed to function quite normally. The whole illegal drugs thing is a scam, it is total bullshit, and the only solution that works is decriminalization and gov sponsored clinics where the drugs can be had and used safely like they have in Switzerland. Unless you want the drug barons and their banker launderers to continue to corrupt every facet of our Republic from Congress down to the beat cop level, and the incredibly ineffective enforcement apparatus which has proven that they can do nothing of significance regarding the problem except increase their own power and funding and shit on low level street level creeps.
When you make something like pot or opium illegal you make it so profitable that it will be smuggled and sold successfully no matter what enforcement techniques you use. It is natural to use and want to use drugs, cocaine is like coffee, only actually less toxic than pure caffeine. The worst drug by far as far as health and society is concerned is alcohol. You could use medically pure opioids most of your life without serious consequences, not so with alcohol. The reason drugs are illegal is power and money is derived from their prohibition, but the lies have the public in fear and no one has the courage to stand up because the bastards that profit from the prohibition have everything by the balls.
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If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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Trump is doomed, and Tesla is not going to do good in a recession.
The last man to down size the CIA was Jimmy Carter. Many of the operatives that were given the boot had expertise in destabilizing governments and targeted economies, as evidence by their previous work in South America, and elsewhere. Many of these operative went to work for the RNC.
Just by "coincidence" the Arabs embargoed oil, just by coincidence the US embassy in Iran was attacked and the staff taken hostage. Just by "coincidence" the rescue mission was a failure. Just by coincidence the US economy went into a tail spin and there were lines of cars for miles at gas stations IF that had any gas, and lines around the block at the SS offices nationwide. Just by coincidence the hostages in Iran were released the day Ronald Reagan won the election. Just by coincidence the man who had been the head of the CIA was his vice president, and the future POTUS.
You are already seeing where the economy is going. Get ready for a real recession. One that will make the public squeal with pain. That is how they got rid of Carter, who was at least an honest man, and that is how they are going to get rid or Trump and his flunkys -- wholesale.
I will be amazed if both Trump and Vance live for another four years. They done F'd with the wrong people, and you can already see where this is going. Unfortunately we will all feel the pain until Trump and his band of stumble bums is gone. Cause they are going to wreck the economy, and in his ignorance Trump is even helping them.
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News flash: CNN, MSNBC, and the usual suspects report:. . . In the primary
race between Sanders and Buttigieg, Pete came in second over all, while
Sanders came in next to last.
Democracy and the so called representative democracy, democratic republic or constitutional republic are very different things.
They are forms of democracy. In most cases minus the democracy part. When people blithely state that we live in a democracy it is incorrect and misleading, like most of the paradigms that the public is continually bombarded with via the corporate news.
A republic is just a way for the plutocrats to stay in power and still have people think they are in a participatory democracy. The only democracy in US government is is that of congress, and they are 98% owned by the power-elite that decide who will run and fund their reelection campaigns with the legalized bribes of their campaign contributions.
There is representation, but not for you and me. We live in a farce. Are you not paying attention? Do you think that this cheating is something new? Your "representatives" are not there to represent you, they are there for the most part to make sure that the voices of the people never get heard, and if they get heard to never be acted upon. Or if they are once in a blue moon forced by popular uprising to act for the people, soon as the masses disperse they will dismember the body that threatened their power one discontent at a time, jailed, disappeared, or simply smeared and ignored by the corporate media. Have you not been present? Look around. . . .
Real democracy, true democracy exists nowhere on earth other than present day Switzerland and never has (that I am aware of). Representative democracy is a convoluted fraudulent conception. Democracy is something that we are continually told we have, which we do not.
We have democracy in the same sense that the slaves, women, citizens without land, and foreigners had a democracy in the golden age of Athens. Only they knew that they did not have a vote or any real participation in the government. Most Americans do not know that.
It should be obvious to anybody with the slightest ability to perceive what is actually going on that this is a conceptual illusion that is used to mislead and quell the disenfranchised mob. Bring on the super-delegates, the Iowa national delegate formula, the electoral collage, the PACz and Citizens United -- a democracy would not abide these contaminants, or entertain their adoption for even a moment.
A democracy and the state we live in are two very different things. In a democracy the one with the most votes is not the loser like in the USA. The courts have decided that even determination of who will be the candidates, such as occurs in the legendary smoke filled rooms of the DNC and RNC has no legal obligation to be fair or democratic in our two party system. . . . ???????
We live in a kleptocracy with a democratic shroud over it, and most people, like almost all people, do not understand how their rights and money are being stolen from them by corporate pilferage and plunder. In fact our present government is functionally a cryptofascist kleptocracy in which all real power, control of the men with guns and uniforms, the state, and the economy is held by a small group of lying psychopaths. Like Robert Mercer,, the Koch brother, Bezos and the mob of banksters that suck up the wealth of the nation like vampires and offer nothing but bullshit and corruption in return.
And you CNN, are a big part of it. In fact people will come to recognize that you are a key member of the new axis of evil. FaceBook -- Buttigieg -- CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfQ7Zo6m9yg
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Comment part 2
However here are some of my thoughts on democracy and how it can work.
In observing certain social animals, like ant colonies and bee hives, it is apparent that certain capacities are actualized of which the individual animals themselves are incapable. These are sometimes referred to as emergent functions, some of which are assumed to come about because of the activation of certain epigenetic potentials in the genome given the proper protein to initiate them. This is debatable, however the functions themselves are easily observable.
Humans are also capable of emergent functioning -- in a political sense. Here is an example of this in action:
We are all familiar with a type of game of chance that one sometimes comes across at a charity event or perhaps a county fair. There will be a large urn or similar vessel and it will contain tens of thousands of jelly beans or marbles or gumballs or something. And typically you make a donation or buy a "chance" and then you make a guess as to how may jelly beans are in the urn. Of course it is impossible to count the jelly beans and it is also very difficult to even make any kind of accurate estimation. So usually thousands of people will make a guess and put it in a box and then the most accurate guess wins a prize, like a car or something.
Well as it turns out: the average of all of the guesses is almost always (actually "always", but I am hedging) more accurate than the best guess. . . .
Now it is true there is no one obscuring parts of the urn or extolling the virtues of certain sets of numbers or otherwise lying to the guessers with false narratives about the jelly beans or the process of guessing. Of course there is no Donald Trump, or FOx news, or CNN spinning false narratives about the jelly beans or telling you that there is a large grapefruit unseen in the middle of the urn that is displacing patriotic American jelly beans, so it is not exactly the same thing as a democratic vote on legislation or some other political decision.
Yet I do believe that this human potential could be brought to bear in a political scenario: if, for instance, something like fines and imprisonment or perhaps huge fines and banishment where the consequence for presenting anything but verifiable facts as evidence in arguing for or against any particular collective democratic decision.
And perhaps, just maybe this collective talent could also be mobilized on a level of finer granularity by calling into question the false narratives and other deceptions of the power-elite and their legions of sycophantic wannabes to themselves be objects of observation and study as is now happening via the decentraization of political commentary and criticism made possible by the internet.
So, potentially, democracy may still have some very significant tricks up it's venerable sleeve, only this time, tricks for the good instead of the in the service of evil. And perhaps some day we could be supplemented in these quandaries by the kind of advanced AI and machine learning that can beat the champions at GO. A game that seems to me, to be very like our political process.
Democracy and the so called representative democracy, democratic republic or constitutional republic are very different things.
They are forms of democracy. In most cases minus the democracy part. When people blithely state that we live in a democracy it is incorrect and misleading, like most of the paradigms that the public is continually bombarded with via the corporate news.
A republic is just a way for the plutocrats to stay in power and still have people think they are in a participatory democracy. The only democracy in US government is that of congress, and they are 98% owned by the power-elite that decide who will run and fund their reelection campaigns with the legalized bribes of their campaign contributions.
There is representation, but not for you and me. We live in a farce. Are you not paying attention? Do you think that this cheating is something new? Your "representatives" are not there to represent you, they are there for the most part to make sure that the voices of the people never get heard, and if they get heard to never be acted upon. Or if they are once in a blue moon forced by popular uprising to act for the people, soon as the masses disperse they will dismember the body that threatened their power one discontent at a time, jailed, disappeared, or simply smeared and ignored by the corporate media. Have you not been present? Look around. . . .
Representative democracy is a convoluted fraudulent conception. Democracy is something that we are continually told we have, which we do not.
We have democracy in the same sense that the slaves, women, citizens without land, and foreigners had a democracy in the golden age of Athens. Only they knew that they did not have a vote or any real participation in the government. Most Americans do not know that.
It should be obvious to anybody with the slightest ability to perceive what is actually going on that this is a conceptual illusion that is used to mislead and quell the disenfranchised mob. Bring on the super-delegates, the Iowa national delegate formula, the electoral collage, the PACz and Citizens United -- a democracy would not abide these contaminants, or entertain their adoption for even a moment.
A democracy and the state we live in are two very different things. In a democracy the one with the most votes is not the loser like in the USA. The courts have decided that even determination of who will be the candidates, such as occurs in the legendary smoke filled rooms of the DNC and RNC has no legal obligation to be fair or democratic in our two party system. . . . ???????
We live in a kleptocracy with a democratic shroud over it, and most people, like almost all people, do not understand how their rights and money are being stolen from them by corporate pilferage and plunder. In fact our present government is functionally a cryptofascist kleptocracy in which all real power, control of the men with guns and uniforms, the state, and the economy is held by a small group of lying psychopaths. Like Robert Mercer,, the Koch brother, Bezos and the mob of banksters that suck up the wealth of the nation like vampires and offer nothing but bullshit and corruption in return.
We have known forever that it would be best to get all money out of politics if the most ethical and fair government is what you want. We have known forever that proportional representation is superior to winner-takes-all seesaws. We have known that the banks are incapable of regulating themselves and that the wealth of the nation is being sucked up by the military industrial professional political worker complex, that the drug war is a farce that has created the first billionaire criminal organizations. In our hollowed out lives, news has become entertainment. And the fantasyland they present to the public is a poor substitute for what should have been the golden destiny of mankind on earth and in regions beyond.
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@mrsam0496 Yes it would become peaceful, after one of the millions of nut-jobs that had been brainwashed by religious paradigms had decided to enter paradise and take everyone with them, after the nuclear winter had subsided, and all meaningful human civilization has ended. Of course not so peaceful for those caught by jaguars, lions, tigers, leopards, polar bears, and orcas that will have once again assumed top positions on the food chain. You could definitely count on peace by increasing the number of mental defectives in control of the destiny of earth.
The bright side of the whole thing is that in a few decades when the dust has settled on the vistas of ruin and corpsicles, the Martian colonists could return to the mother world with their scientific, RetroConfucian Meritocracy and AI hybrid civilization to try it one more time with intelligence, science, the mission of extending human consciousness, striving for a golden destiny among the stars, and sanity as guiding principles.
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@kaxerrr Even in ancient Greece, it was known that power should never be given, or granted, or even lent, to someone who seeks power. A leader should have to be dragged from is ordinary life, and installed in power over others against their wishes, and even then for a limited time. Many of the heroes of the Roman Republic were fabled to be of this type.. The last person in the world to be granted the inedible power of the modern state is someone who thirsts for it. To me: Trump, Biden, Sanders etc, their all the same. They are unworthy.
I really think the only way out of this, is to use the methods of scientific testing, and virtual scenarios, to determine who is most fit for various positions and to have regular government upgrades, in which all citizens are tested and the most effective installed in a position until someone scores higher. There are all kinds of details, and concerns of fairness that could easily be overcome with today's technology. In the future it may be more effective to have AI determine policy which would be tested in a quantum simulation and then voted on by the people who score highest in the tests for various offices. Not likely. but that is probably the most effective approach to govern at this point. Democracy can work, and provide synergistic results due to epigenetic propensities of humans, but it cannot work in an atmosphere of 24/7 lies and disinformation, and the general obscuration of facts and evidence, like we now have.
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@Starsurfer74 . . . "defend your country in areas where they are really needed?" You mean now? At this moment? You think the troops in action are defending you? Man have you swallowed the cool-aid.
As for your other comment:
I always like it when someone displays both their ignorance and inability to do the least little search before they spout their knee-jerk opinions.
It's not an either or thing, they used the legion and slaves.
From Alberto Yagos on Quora -- literally the first response on Google. Are you that lazy?
. . . 'With so many engineers and men trained, when they made a Roman permanent fort they also built accessory buildings like baths, headquarters and even civil construction like several buildings outside the fort (cabannae), the ones for the legionaries’ families (before and after they were allowed to marry), aqueducts, bridges, roads, amphitheaters…
On his return Corbulo set his legionaries to digging a massive canal between the rivers Meuse and Rhine. The legions were immensely useful for infrastructure development; trained legionaries could be used directly for tasks as road building or seconded to lend their skills to civic provincial projects. For example, legionary engineers generally oversaw the civilian construction of amphitheatres and aqueducts
The Roman Empire
Parallels from Britain (where ancient timbers are better preserved) suggest that although the Romans were aware of the properties of various types of wood, military construction usually relied on local timber, even if inferior; from this we may infer that army units were probably cutting their own lumber. Vegetius (writing in the fourth century, but the statement may be true for earlier periods as well) confirms that 'the legion also has carpenters... and the other artisans necessary for the building of winter quarters'. Moreover, soldiers were undoubtedly utilised to assist in civil construction; we know for instance that the Fourth and Sixth Legions built roads in Navarra under Augustus, while the Seventh Legion helped construct the bridge at Aquae Flaviae in 79.
Roman Spain (Routledge Revivals)
Amphitheatres... many legionary examples produce direct evidence of having been constructed by the army
Handbook to Roman Legionary Fortresses
According to van Enckevort (2005), only the army and not the local elite possessed the means to transport the building stone used in these projects, and this claim appears to be borne out by the use of different forms of stone in foundations postdating Legio X Gemina's departure. Therefore, the occurrence of legionary roof tiles, Grauwacke, tuff and Norroy limestone in public buildings of the early second century is strong evidence that army personnel had a role in civil construction during the same period.
Domestic Cattle and Economic Change in the Roman Period Lower Rhineland: The Civitas Batavorum
The discovery of Legio XX stamped tiles referring to Viducius at a rural tile-works in Merseyside confirms him as a legionary contractor; close examination of tile sizes shows that contractors appear to have played a significant part in the production for at least two of the legions.
Legionary Tile Production in Britain | Britannia | Cambridge Core
The city of Timgad (Algeria) was supposedly mainly built by the army:
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This is great on one hand and it is total bullshit on another. The world has to step up in Ukraine. The entire world is being held hostage by nuclear blackmail. It is the biggest bluff of all history. Russia will not use nukes unless Russia is attacked within it's boarders. When asked if he would respond in kind to a nuclear barrage that hit Russia if, it's response would end human civilization Putin responded, "Of course, what would the world be without Russia?" The correct answer to that question is: "Better". The world would be a better place for everyone without Russia, and though they don't know or won't admit it, it would be a better place for Russians most of all. Why have the leaders in the free world lost their balls, especially Germany, remember the wall, you gutless German leaders, remember the Berlin crisis, were would you be today if the free world had not defied the soviets? Still in hell eating bowls of tears that where.
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Paradox? Irony? Oxymornical juxtaposition? First the report on the anti-immigrant white supremacy movement, then the anti-gun plug, then the reports of corruption so rampant in Mexico that journalist (and many others) are assassinated by government officials who are really working for drug dealers.
Well if you don't see the cognitive dissonance, just let me ask. What is the difference between the USA and Mexico?
Why is it that before the recent mass murder in El Paso (by a non-resident) that El Paso was (and probably still is) one of the safest US cities, and right across the boarder on the other side of the same accumulation of humans, is Juarez: one of the most dangerous cities on earth?
I am not offering any answers here only questions.
What is the difference between the USA and Mexico?
Our corrupt oligarch, power elite, and robber barons, need to be more circumspect. They can't just kill someone for personal reasons -- not to say this has never happened, but it is not nearly as common.
I will submit one answer for your approval. If all drugs were to be decriminalized in the USA, and treated as the medical and psychological problems that they are (for some), and perhaps even establish sanctuary zones, where people could do all the drugs they want and buy them from drug stores over the counter. Don't you think that that would put the end to the billions of dollars that end up in criminal hands and corrupt everything from our own federal agencies and military, to the banking system, to small town cops, down and out tradesmen, etc, etc, and it's all just puritanical nonsense. I know, it's hard to think outside the box when thinking is the box, but give it a try.
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@Roshiyu That was sarcasm. Tesla has absolutely no interest in Bolivia, although partisan puddin' heads will believe the rumors that it wants Bolivian lithium. Tesla gets none of its lithium from Bolivia, but has huge interests in Australia, which makes far more sense logistically, politically, and Lithium Australia just invented a process that derives 95% of the lithium from raw materials without heat and far less pollution. If I were Tesla I would buy that company yesterday.
That's the problem with Twitter, sarcasm and irony are often taken for their opposite. So that is what about Bolivia, which was years ago, and was deleted because it was misunderstood: apparently by people just like yourself.
I am still waiting for an example of how he "normalized hate towards vulnerable people". I mean you have to be so much of an idiot to hate someone so much that you go back into his college days and try to justify your own image that you have projected onto someone who is just a brilliant but goofy anomaly with asbergers, that I find amusing and actually a sign of hope that the younger generation can actually do significant meaningful things. You people really need something, I don't know what, but you are blind to the great things this goof has done and pull up every bit of minutia that doesn't fit in with you hobbled idea of what a perfect human would do. What the hell have you done? Maybe that's the question you should be asking yourself.
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I can imagine an alternative that is outside of the usual: capitalism,
communism, socialism, anarchism ruts. OK well anarchism may not be a
rut, and in a sense it is almost as if an underlying subtle substrate of
anarchism may be both present and necessary for the vitality of the
other isms, but it seems to me that a purely anarchist state, or region,
if you prefer, would be at the mercy of nations that are otherwisely
organized.
First of all, I mention in the spirit of full disclosure that I find
government and it's mechanics boring, and somehow grey and depressing,
and consider the people who have a desire to acquire temporal power over
the physical existence of others as sick, deeply self-deluded
individuals. I think that in general our leaders, in whatever flavor
basically suck ass when it comes to administering a government. We are
told that governments are the most dangerous entities on earth, not to
other governments or other peoples, but to their own people. But of
course it is not governments, no matter the formal codification of
society in the form of laws and regulations, but the people who enact
same, supposedly for the benefit of society, but more realistically in
the service of their own organically pragmatic predilections, whether
apparent as in the case of libertarians, and various utilitarian
movements, or subtle and convoluted and perhaps even unconscious as on
the part of various idealists, and utopians.
Anyway, enough of this and to the point. I suggest a governing system
in which the body of government employees, whether a janitor or the
chief executive, is chosen by testing and continual performance review.
Sort of a Techno-Neo Confucianism where anyone who is able to score
higher on a series of tests that are generated by machine learning
logarithms to optimize a governing system that is entirely relative to
an established constitution or declaration of stated national goals,
such as the optimal health wealth and well-being of all citizens or the
earliest possible establishment of an extra-planetary colony that is
self-sustaining, or some other orientation or constellation of
orientations that is established by and modified by the adult populace
with varying degrees of voting powers, which degree would also be
determines by a test designed to test the intelligence, knowledge and
correlation to reality of their internal conceptions. They would be
voting directly only for the goals and general prime directives of the
nation and not the leaders or manner in which these goals are pursued
except in so far as they have established restrictions on such
pursuits, such as environmental regulations and standards of dignity and
freedom regarding all individuals.
New and future technology will allow earthlings to establish a society
that is superior to any that humans themselves are capable of designing
the social and physical dynamics and details of. Thusly the human race
will expand into the limitless resources of the solar system and
beyond, to evolve in concert with our technology to a destiny which is
presently beyond the capacity of even the most creative futurist to
imagine.
In such a system, the tests for positions of higher responsibility would
be complex and not limited to written exams, but would include virtual
reality scenarios, real world assessment and performance review, as
well as extreme depth of psychological testing. I might add that in
regard to such "higher" positions it may well be determined and required
that it would be necessary for them to experience a mental state of
awareness that is beyond the consensus thought-centric and quite
mechanical mental processes of humanity, whether by psychedelic agents
or some other mode of transcendence.
In addendum: democracies do work, I should say "can work", this is
illustrated by the fact that if a problem is too complex, such as
guessing the number of jellybeans in a huge urn. If enough people
guess, say tens of thousands, the median of all the guesses is always
more accurate than any single guess. Ok theoretically a single guess
can be just as or more accurate than the median of all guesses, but not
very friggen often and it is just luck. Now if you have some agency
that obscures the urn or finds a means of exaggerating certain qualities
or merely using persuasion to misrepresent the number of jelly beans
this will obviously fuck things up. This is analogous to the present
state of the world with regard to the disinformation and propaganda
generated by all manner of sources like Fox News, or any news outside of
peer reviewed journals and even then. . . .
So of course in this society, as it should be in ours, the penalty for
knowingly reporting inaccurate information as fact would be death. No
excuses.
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Old subject lots of comments. Here's my two cents for posterity (because I doubt if any humans will read it. It being a 2 years old question).
Ok, this is not one subject but several. I will only talk about entering a corner, with no traffic in front of you and little concern for pedestrians or police. Also you are not on a race track, but having a spirited drive alone on an appropriate road, like in the coastal range in Kali or the Appalachians on a two lane black top, something like that. This is how I "engine brake" in that sort of situation, and it has served me well for over fifty years of using the public highways as my own personal billions dollar amusement ride. In the appropriate situations of course.
This is done in one very quick smooth action. I depress the clutch and put the gear shift in neutral. I sharply blip the throttle and as the engine is coming back down from the peak of the rev, I downshift when the revs match the gear. That is, there is no clutch feel at all of the engine catching up to the gear speed or visa versa. They just match, no slipping at all.
If you have never gotten effective with this technique it can probably be done much faster and smoother than you imagine. This affords an initial state where in nether the clutch nor the gear box is strained but rather have almost retained a constant state of equilibrium, except of course that I am now in a lower gear that is engine breaking at a higher rate. It is also handy for exiting the turn under power. I have always called this double-clutching. In my old Willys Jeep it was the only way you could shift without grinding, and in my more sporting cars it seems fun and effective and definitely preserves the synchronizers from explosion. Not for everyone I suspect, but I usually bother to double-clutch when driving attentively and the curves are sharp enough to inspire down-shifting.
On the other subject he mentioned, that is, long grades: If alone in the mountains, which is a frequent situation. I like to crest the mountain slow enough and combine that with a gear that will allow me to not use my brakes at all. I usually do this in neutral and just ride my kinetic wave, unless the grade is so long that I will enter any curves on the downside at a speed that would necessitate braking, then I use a gear and usually put it in neutral part way down the mountain in order not to waste all the energy I put into climbing the hill. This has become a real tactical game with me. How can I roll down the mountain most efficiently, energy-wise, without taking the curves so fast that I have to use any braking, engine or wheel.
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49:40 that is why most find relief from: the majesty of existence, the shocking implications of the mundane, and the incomparable unlikelihood of the real -- in beliefs that muddy up the whole proposition and provide longed for reversion to automatic functioning of the associative thought-centric and quite free-will devoid "mind". If the need to entertain any story, no matter how lame, becomes feverish, we could be in a good spot, we could be in a bad spot, dependent on the pointedness of our point of view. If things get too clear we can always turn on the TV, or read a metaphysical tome, or watch a YouTube video that stimulates associations we enjoy, or worst yet most soothing of all, simply reminisce with limbic seasonings. Keeps things in homeostatic balance: that being the glacial progress, with the emphasis on stasis, that evolution favors so much on the collective level -- not that it will do us any personal good outside of antibiotics and such.
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@platosbeard4449 Can you tell me of a hegemony or even nation of secondary power that has not also expressed the human failings common to all men of whatever race or creed? That is of course: had they the power that results in notable corruption.
I frequent many progressive forums and the people I run into who consider themselves progressives, are frequently surprised to the point of denial to find out that the American First Nations or Native Americans were not only not the environmentalists that is held forth in their pop persona in the media, but were hideously barbaric and blood thirsty in their near continuous warfare among themselves in pre and post columbian eras. Further when it is pointed out to them that such behavior is common to all the vying nations and even some NGO and religious organizations, inevitably they have to divert the conversation.
To ascribe the common failings of all men to the current hegemony, though always a crowd pleaser among those outside of said hegemony, or out of power inside of it, is simplistic and naive.
Which is not to say that the USA is not deserving of such criticism. The USA is apparently corrupt on many national levels, but what nation is not? True, the corruption in the USA presently has more of a universal effect than say the corruption you may find in a monastery in Tibet, but do you doubt that the young initiates in such a circumstance are exploited, beaten, and abused, even in this apparently most benign of cultures?
The USA could do well to have a government upgrade, no doubt, something that excluded psychopaths, or people who are unable to distinguish fact from fiction, from public office would be good for a start. But barring that, real campaign finance reform is the lynch pin that will end the normalized corruption that holds America in its thrall, and is the most beneficial legislation that could occur. All other political issues in the USA are basically red herrings that keep the same old power-elite bumbling along.
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@ssn90 To me it is totally frightening that so many otherwise apparently normal and even good people have fallen for his authoritarian bull. But even someone with virtually no political smarts, if exposed to the actual facts should be able to come to a conclusion that is not against their own best interests. The main problem is, as you mentioned the amount of disinformation that is served up to the public as factual. Even if the facts are correct, the entire milieu of their narrative is often diversionary and false. But look at this fact: The biggest polluter in the country is Koch Industries. Since the right-wing radicals under Trump took over, they no longer have to follow EPA guidelines at all regarding what they dump into the water table and our streams and rivers. Have you ever visited the Appalachian coal regions, especially in PA. Streams with no life at all, forests that grow to forty feet then all die because their roots hit poisoned water, roads so thick with coal dust from trucks that every car that passes raises a toxic black cloud. Community after community devastated by pollution and economic collapse, yet they go on stripping, go on burning the crap for electricity, and there are no miners at all anymore, none that go down into mines that is. The people that own these big mines do not live there. They wouldn't live there is you paid them. Trump lied about clean coal. The entire idea of clean coal is ridiculous yet these devastated communities are some of the most staunch and violent Trump supporters anywhere. It leads one to conclude that the vast majority of Trump supporters cannot tell reality from the disinformation planted in their heads, and the disinformation coming from a source like PBS and a Trump rally are not even in the same universe. Trump is a lying, thieving, draft-dodging, mental defective. That is apparent to anyone who just looks at the real facts and ignores the hype.
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@richardowens9061 Have you been asleep? The evidence is massive if you care to look for it. Let’s start with the law that congress just passed allowing government agencies to investigate your internet activities. But this is just window dressing for something that has been going on for over a decade.
Former head of the NSA Clapper’s problematic testimony occurred a few minutes before noon on March 12, 2013, when he told Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., “No, sir,” and, “Not wittingly,” in response to a question about whether the NSA was collecting “any type of data at all” on millions of Americans. Wyden later said he provided the question to Clapper before the hearing and unsuccessfully asked Clapper to correct the record.
Months later, Snowden revealed in June 2013 that the U.S. intelligence community obtained secret court orders forcing phone companies to turn over millions of U.S. call records on an “ongoing, daily basis.”
And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Everything you do, write or say over the internet or other electronic venues is not only analyzed, it is stored for over a decade. This has been known for years.
Try a little investigation yourself. Snowden let the cat out of the bag, and later revelations show that not only was he telling the truth but he didn’t really know all of the features of the domestic spying.
You are probably also unaware that drones monitor some ot the cities in the USA continually. They have been used to monitor the current protests and the scumbags who use them to cover criminal activities. Some of these drone services are even run by private companies and sold to police departments. They are quite simple and brilliant – as in brilliant weaponry which is the next step beyond smart weapons.
The same type of logarithms that show you ads based on your internet use are used to sum up and infer your propensity for anti-government activities. Don’t be naive.
Think about it. A drone is continuous overhead during the protests. Every heat signature on the street is tagged. Then they can merely rewind the surveillance video and see where any particular tagged heat signature originated, thus getting the address. Also where they went after the demonstration. Etc.
Another example: There is a burglary. They play the video backward and can tell where the criminals came from, simple but extremely effective.
I don’t really have time to do your homework for you so if you can actually discriminate between evidence and disinformation you will find innumerable leads to what is going on.
And every one of your searches will be recorded and scrutinized by machines that can do that and a thousand times more in a fraction of a second at almost no cost.
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Peter couldn't be more incorrect about Tesla. No layoffs, almost 30b in the bank, increasing production and sales about 90% YOY, a stock price that has been gutted by continual fake news from almost all commercial media, because they will not spend the billions on advertising that the others like GM do on a yearly basis, because they do not have to, their vehicles sell themselves, the highest owner satisfaction and loyalty, by far the safest vehicles in a collision, the only charging net worth using, transformational major tech breakthroughs that have yet to penetrate the public mind, and apparently Peter's too, the world leader in real-world AI, so many pluses that I cannot go into them here. Investors like Soros buying the present dip. NO debt, like Ford almost 130b in real debt, and more profit per unit than any other major OEM except Mercedes. The one thing that Tesla does have to worry about is Chinese unrest, but that is about it. His idea that Tesla has "gobbled up the subsidies". . . is ridiculous and enormously incorrect: Tesla has been killing it with no subs for years, and come Jan1st will be eligible for over 6k per unit in the new federal subs. How in the hell could someone be so wrong about all this when the facts are freely available to anyone who is able to distinguish media and short seller FUD from reality? I have lost enormous respect for Pete's opinions, despite the fact that I would love to see them come true for Russia and China.
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@moritamikamikara3879 No dude, the solution is to take the profit out of drugs, by decriminalizing them and making cocaine available to the fools who use it cheap. At one point when I was young I had a job doing fix-up and painting around the house of a retired general of the US armed forces. His wife had prescriptions for both cocaine and opium, legally as nose drops and paregoric. She had bottles of them in virtually every room of the house and she seemed to function quite normally. The whole illegal drugs thing is a scam, it is total bullshit, and the only solution that works is decriminalization and gov sponsored clinics where the drugs can be had and used safely like they have in Switzerland. Unless you want the drug barons and their banker launderers to continue to corrupt every facet of our Republic from Congress down to the beat cop level, and the incredibly ineffective enforcement apparatus which has proven that they can do nothing of significance regarding the problem except increase their own power and funding and shit on low level street level creeps.
When you make something like pot or opium illegal you make it so profitable that it will be smuggled and sold successfully no matter what enforcement techniques you use. It is natural to use and want to use drugs, cocaine is like coffee, only actually less toxic than pure caffeine. The worst drug by far as far as health and society is concerned is alcohol. You could use medically pure opioids most of your life without serious consequences, not so with alcohol. The reason drugs are illegal is power and money is derived from their prohibition, but the lies have the public in fear and no one has the courage to stand up because the bastards that profit from the prohibition have everything by the balls.
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GM did recent buybacks for exactly the reason you give. Tesla never did any buybacks.
If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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Personally I am of the opinion that the people who are more or less forcing the traditional automakers to go EV and are developing the physical potential of green energy, have done far more than all the environmental protestors put together. Actually doing something viable and positive that is physically transformative . . . not so easy as talk.
Like Sting sang, "There is no political solution. . . ." Any so-called political solution will be co-opted, lobbied and well "corrupted" into ineffectual window dressing that is really only a path to political power for those of the same bent as those they criticize but in a different "key, like in the progressive key instead of the regressive one we now tolerate to an amazing degree: like frogs in a slowly warming pot that will eventually boil. The solution is to make the most gross sources of environmental degradation economically nonviable (and this is being done quite rapidly, though certainly not as rapidly as it would be if the current pending legislation were objective and not just a political ploy to subsidize unions and other political entities instead of the most viable engineering of the desired clean energy transformation) -- or we can continue, to do the same thing over and over, while expecting a new outcome. I have to quote whoever it was who said, "The lesson of history is that humanity does not learn from the lessons of history." . . . or something to that effect.
We could, but this can only come about after a total reform of how political campaigns are financed. We can only really begin to proceed if all private funding of politics is disallowed by law. I know this, you know this, even John McKane knew this and still crickets. I know it's boring but campaign finance is the lynch pin of all the presently legalized forms of corruption that have been normalized in the last half century. It is the glue that holds together the nasty melange we presently suffer.
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@patricialongo5746 Your misunderstanding of what I wrote is so epic that I find it hard to believe that you even read it before you responded. I hardly think that GM, who I refer to as "a traditional automaker" in my statement, and who is now being dragged along kicking and screaming into the green energy age is an example of what I am referring to. They are the opposite of an innovative and ethical company like Tesla. But that is were you had to go, because that is were your argument makes any sense at all. Even so, one recall is near meaningless, especially when it is totally outdated technology. And change is bigger than that. All Tesla models are sold out for the entire year. Tesla is opening two new factories, one in Texas and one in Germany. The largest factories in the world. Change will not come about by protests or political means, that has been tried over and over. Change is happening now, and it is massive and these protests are like sentimental artifacts of a bygone age. Though I am all for the protestors themselves, if they don't have the means or education to make real contributions they can pose for photo ops to shut down pipelines. They shut down one and two pop up somewhere else. It is ineffective, and will always be overcome by backroom deals and various stratagems of the power elite until they start losing money because they backed a fossil fuel horse that is losing the race and losing them money.
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Now your doing the "fuckery" thing too. Fuckery is not a word. And even if it was a word, how does it reflect on one's relationship to fucking if you use it as a negative. Think about it, every culture has a category of words they use as "curses" like in France most are connected to Religion or the Catholic church, like the exclamation of "Hotsi" which means the sacred host, or another one means god made of pubic hair, but in the good old USA it is sex that becomes the curses. This indicated a society that is sexually demented.
Try: fraud, deceit, cheating, flimflam, treachery, etc. You can do it, you can use a real word.
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If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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Personally I wonder if when I click this show to read the guest bio if it counts as a view? If I don't know who the guest is I always read it.
If the guest is an MMA fighter, a comedian, actor, or some neo-rightwing toid trying to sound like they actually posses a neocortex, or some imbecile antivegan carnivore-wannabe, II just move on immediately. If is is someone like Abby Martin, David Sinclair, Elon Musk, Rhonda Patrick, I listen. Judging by the bulk of his programming and the amount of bro' science it spews -- I suspect my tastes are in the minority.
Then again I do give him credit in that his scatter-gun approach does have a good spread, so it does get some guests I really enjoy.
He is sort of a contradiction in himself, professing love and loving to see people beat the shit out of each other. Not necessarily a contradiction on his part nor a criticism on mine. It's good to keep seemingly antithetical modules of identification fed in order to maintain a wide spectrum of inner possibiites and outer actions. That would be, if he knew what he was doing.
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If the propensity for police violence is still a mystery to you, look into the Stanford Prison Experiment. We have known all along that if you give people authority over others, and uniforms, and weapons, and tell them to enforce order: they will become abusive. No ifs, ands, or buts -- it will happen even if they know that they are playing a role.
Next question: why has no media source, none, addressed this issue?
Possibly related metaphor: During the sixties a favorite pass time for teens was to cruse around in cars on Friday and Saturday night. I remember the traffic at a standstill because of this, and when not standing still it barely moved. Then one Friday night, at the very peek of cruise traffic, after the high school football game had finished, their was a power outage. All the traffic lights stopped working, and a miracle happened, all of a sudden the traffic began to move, and it continued to move, without accidents, or incident, until the issue was resolved and the traffic lights went back on. . . . It happened. I was there.
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Tesla seems to be doing more than fine in their China giga. Sales are up domestically and internationally from there, they are about to release the Highland model from China, and they have been seeking approval for a major expansion of manufacturing facilities. CATL has built a new battery plant right next to Tesla giga Shanghai, (wonder why). Though to be fair Tesla has also been initiating new Tera plants like crazy, the one in Monterrey Mexico will be twice a big as the biggest factory in the USA (Tesla giga Austin) and there are ongoing negotiations with, Canada, Spain, India, Indonesia, and probably places I don't know about to build additional plants. Tesla is also the only American company operating in China that has been allowed total ownership of it's operations, at least until a few months ago when it seems other companies have been cut a similar deal.
Yep, guess that green tech will never work out. . . . But now it can't help but work out, Tesla cars are now less expensive to buy than comparable gas cars, and much much less expensive to own and operate. This despite the Musk haters and gobblers of the lies instigated by short sellers, OEM ICE investors and tier 1-3 suppliers, the oil shitheads, union shills, the mass media trying to shake T down for ad revenue and the general knuckle-dragging troglodytes that drive dualy diesel pickups and put something in the bed from Home Depot once or twice a year, while they pollute the air we breath with toxic carcinogenic fumes which are responsible for millions of repertory related deaths each year and drag a useless ton of iron around with them everywhere they go because they want to pretend to be cowboys or good old boys or some other stupid shit.
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@djprojectus Tesla: Highest owner satisfaction, Motor Trend car of the last seventy years, most profit per unit in the entire industry, Safest car in a crash, most advanced engineering of any mass produced auto, most retention of resale value of any car, most American parts and labor of any car sold in the USA, Only new auto industry in a hundred years to produce a car and make a profit at scale, Most desirable place to work for graduating PHDs in engineering (spaceX, then Tesla and they exchange engineers when the engineers want) Transformed the entire auto industry. Is the continual target of imbeciles, haters, union agents, and other OEMs, Does not spend one dollar on advertising (as opposed to GM which spends over 2 billion annually to sell illusions) Continually sold out, used Teslas frequently worth more than they cost new. Nope no arguments, except your own inability to comprehend the facts on the ground.
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@djprojectus You obviously know nothing about the subject and are just exhibiting your own envy and reaction to the success of others: Petty man, petty concerns, mean nothing. You have no perspective, priorities, or sense of proportions this is all obvious in your silly statements in which you have to ignore all the evidence, all the comments by experts, and even what you yourself know, if you have two brain cells to rub together, is the truth: Tesla has no peers, no real competitors and has done what no other company has been able to do. No further responses to you because you are not concerned with the facts, just with your own prejudice and shallow understanding. Go drive a 22 Y with the latest beta and you will turn your ignorant mind around if you have any intelligence at all. I suspect you are either an industry troll or a junior high student, in either case, you exhibit the intelligence and judgement of a dead grape. You are blocked.
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Loki is not from India. Bengal originated in California as a hybrid between an Asian leopard cat, a small wild cat found throughout south east Asia and various domestic breeds.. Your Bengal probably has very little leopard cat in it, and you should be happy about that. I have owned various leopard cats in the past and bred bengals when they first appeared for sale. Bengals were initially breed as investigations into transferring the immunity to feline leukemia into domestic cats.
The thing that sets Bengals apart for other domestics is the coat pattern, as the other prime characteristics of the Leopard cat, such as small round delicate ears, lack shoulder striping, and a viscous demeanor have largely been lost.
If your Bengal glitters in sun light, you are fortunate, as this is one of the key anomalous factors that seemed to develop from this hybridization. They seem to think it came from the leopard cats, but I have never seen a leopard cat with glitter.
If you have never seen a bemgal with glitter, and the cat that momentarily appeared in this video does not appear to have the glitter gene though that could be because of the lighting, you really haven't seen a great Bengal. Here's a pic of a bengal kitten with some glitter. Though it really does not show up in photos. https://bengalcatdirectory.com/wp-content/uploads/Lamba.jpg
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@2eyeson2b I doubt there will be a 2026 election, and even if there is, it will just be offering two candidates both of whom are the lesser of two evils to their supporters. It's no longer "the smoke filled rooms" that determine who the candidates will be. Which was bad enough, but it is the smoke filled rooms behind the smoke filled rooms, that now make that determination. Strange as it may seem, in my view, there is some hope that the CIA will bring Trump to his knees. The last pres to downsize the CIA was Jimmy Carter, and the former operatives went to work for the RNC, basically wrecked the US economy, to get rid of Carter, Saudis turned off the oil, hostages taken in Iran and released the day Reagan was elected, all coincidence right? And the new vice president just happened to be the former head of the CIA. I never thought I would look back at the presidency of the first George Bush with nostalgia, but now do. The second George Bush was right up there in the running for worst president of all time and may yet be ahead of Trump in that contest.
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@myhhlim And your "facts" are mere CCP party line propaganda.
What happened to whom you describe as the "red Indians" happened all over the world to the primitive inhabitants of the earth when confronted with the technologies that radiated from the first civilizations.
It happened to the first Europeans themselves and the second and the Neanderthals before them.
This is the nature of life, you can see it in fungus, plants, and all species of animals. The invasive species whom you refer to as the "red Indians" but who were really different incursions of Siberians into an environment, that, coincidentally underwent a massive extinction of species upon their dissemination into the Americas -- these now cosmic environmentalists, were displaced and disrupted by further invasions of native Asians as evidenced in the archeological record.
Who, by the way, practiced all manner of inhumane hideous warfare upon one another continually, and took every advantage they could find to dominate, enslave, and destroy other, "red Indians" as evidenced by the expansion of the Comanche Empire upon their development of mounted warfare. As has been natural for all human beings everywhere until modern times.
Now, in the eyes of puddin' heads like you, they were nothing but victims of an insanely rapacious and wholly corrupt European invasion.
Yet you use an ancient dynasty to justify the invasion of a peaceful nation that wanted nothing to do with China or it's political ideology. This is the same as me claiming that all of Turkey, ,postl of Northern Africa, most of Central Asia and even a little bit of India is really Greek because it was once a part of Alexander's conquest.
Grow a brain and step outside of your partisan fantasy of a worldview. Humans are flawed, all humans, susceptible to corruption beyond the common conscience of -- not doing to others what you would not want them do to one's self. It is a rare person who is not corrupted by power, all governments are an enriched culture for corruption, China is no different. China now has a dictator for life with almost unchallengable power, and total power corrupts totally, he is no exception. He has a narrow window in which to act because of China's demographic timebomb and it seems He is willing to advance aggressively as much as is convenient and possible, just like the USA did during the days of "Manifest Destiny"
Before the Japanese invaded Manchuria and lite off WW2 they also felt the pressure of having a limited time to act in which to establish their empire. We know what that came to.
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News flash: CNN, MSNBC, and the usual suspects report:. . . In the primary
race between Sanders and Buttigieg, Pete came in second over all, while
Sanders came in next to last.
Democracy and the so called representative democracy, democratic republic or constitutional republic are very different things.
They are forms of democracy. In most cases minus the democracy part. When people blithely state that we live in a democracy it is incorrect and misleading, like most of the paradigms that the public is continually bombarded with via the corporate news.
A republic is just a way for the plutocrats to stay in power and still have people think they are in a participatory democracy. The only democracy in US government is is that of congress, and they are 98% owned by the power-elite that decide who will run and fund their reelection campaigns with the legalized bribes of their campaign contributions.
There is representation, but not for you and me. We live in a farce. Are you not paying attention? Do you think that this cheating is something new? Your "representatives" are not there to represent you, they are there for the most part to make sure that the voices of the people never get heard, and if they get heard to never be acted upon. Or if they are once in a blue moon forced by popular uprising to act for the people, soon as the masses disperse they will dismember the body that threatened their power one discontent at a time, jailed, disappeared, or simply smeared and ignored by the corporate media. Have you not been present? Look around. . . .
Real democracy, true democracy exists nowhere on earth other than present day Switzerland and never has (that I am aware of). Representative democracy is a convoluted fraudulent conception. Democracy is something that we are continually told we have, which we do not.
We have democracy in the same sense that the slaves, women, citizens without land, and foreigners had a democracy in the golden age of Athens. Only they knew that they did not have a vote or any real participation in the government. Most Americans do not know that.
It should be obvious to anybody with the slightest ability to perceive what is actually going on that this is a conceptual illusion that is used to mislead and quell the disenfranchised mob. Bring on the super-delegates, the Iowa national delegate formula, the electoral collage, the PACz and Citizens United -- a democracy would not abide these contaminants, or entertain their adoption for even a moment.
A democracy and the state we live in are two very different things. In a democracy the one with the most votes is not the loser like in the USA. The courts have decided that even determination of who will be the candidates, such as occurs in the legendary smoke filled rooms of the DNC and RNC has no legal obligation to be fair or democratic in our two party system. . . . ???????
We live in a kleptocracy with a democratic shroud over it, and most people, like almost all people, do not understand how their rights and money are being stolen from them by corporate pilferage and plunder. In fact our present government is functionally a cryptofascist kleptocracy in which all real power, control of the men with guns and uniforms, the state, and the economy is held by a small group of lying psychopaths. Like Robert Mercer,, the Koch brother, Bezos and the mob of banksters that suck up the wealth of the nation like vampires and offer nothing but bullshit and corruption in return.
And you CNN, are a big part of it. In fact people will come to recognize that you are a key member of the new axis of evil. FaceBook -- Buttigieg -- CNN
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I think you made some valid and some interesting point. Except the one about Peter's age being the real reason for his attitude. Like Bill Maher espouses: ageism is the last hold-out of prejudice. With the amount that Peter walks and the funds I imagine he has the ability to allocate, he may be around for centuries if Kurzwell's predictions run true to form, and so far they seem to be.
I like Peter's input on geopolitics based on demographics and geography, but when it comes to innovation and technological progress and it's repercussions, I tend more toward Tony Seba's views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJKTYc_v-I&t=387s
I personally never liked Twitter. Perhaps because like yourself I find it stifling to be limited to a small number of characters. I ditched facebook a few months after I got on it, when a friend in the IT tech explained the extent of their inference engines to me a decade or so ago. I still do use their local marketplace feature, but that's it, and I now have all their trackers and impossitions on my privacy defeated. I never use google search, only duck duck, and always use a VPN for everything, both on my PC and phone and have since they were first availible (Nord being the best I have come across) YouTube is my only indulgence and I have their off-site trackers and inference engines gelded. And of course I never see any ads on YouTube or I would not use it at all.
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News flash: CNN, MSNBC, and the usual suspects report:. . . In the primary
race between Sanders and Buttigieg, Pete came in second over all, while
Sanders came in next to last.
Democracy and the so called representative democracy, democratic republic or constitutional republic are very different things.
They are forms of democracy. In most cases minus the democracy part. When people blithely state that we live in a democracy it is incorrect and misleading, like most of the paradigms that the public is continually bombarded with via the corporate news.
A republic is just a way for the plutocrats to stay in power and still have people think they are in a participatory democracy. The only democracy in US government is is that of congress, and they are 98% owned by the power-elite that decide who will run and fund their reelection campaigns with the legalized bribes of their campaign contributions.
There is representation, but not for you and me. We live in a farce. Are you not paying attention? Do you think that this cheating is something new? Your "representatives" are not there to represent you, they are there for the most part to make sure that the voices of the people never get heard, and if they get heard to never be acted upon. Or if they are once in a blue moon forced by popular uprising to act for the people, soon as the masses disperse they will dismember the body that threatened their power one discontent at a time, jailed, disappeared, or simply smeared and ignored by the corporate media. Have you not been present? Look around. . . .
Real democracy, true democracy exists nowhere on earth other than present day Switzerland and never has (that I am aware of). Representative democracy is a convoluted fraudulent conception. Democracy is something that we are continually told we have, which we do not.
We have democracy in the same sense that the slaves, women, citizens without land, and foreigners had a democracy in the golden age of Athens. Only they knew that they did not have a vote or any real participation in the government. Most Americans do not know that.
It should be obvious to anybody with the slightest ability to perceive what is actually going on that this is a conceptual illusion that is used to mislead and quell the disenfranchised mob. Bring on the super-delegates, the Iowa national delegate formula, the electoral collage, the PACz and Citizens United -- a democracy would not abide these contaminants, or entertain their adoption for even a moment.
A democracy and the state we live in are two very different things. In a democracy the one with the most votes is not the loser like in the USA. The courts have decided that even determination of who will be the candidates, such as occurs in the legendary smoke filled rooms of the DNC and RNC has no legal obligation to be fair or democratic in our two party system. . . . ???????
We live in a kleptocracy with a democratic shroud over it, and most people, like almost all people, do not understand how their rights and money are being stolen from them by corporate pilferage and plunder. In fact our present government is functionally a cryptofascist kleptocracy in which all real power, control of the men with guns and uniforms, the state, and the economy is held by a small group of lying psychopaths. Like Robert Mercer,, the Koch brother, Bezos and the mob of banksters that suck up the wealth of the nation like vampires and offer nothing but bullshit and corruption in return.
the new axis of evil. FaceBook -- Buttigieg -- CNN
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Depends where you want to live. I am selling a house with hardwood floors throughout, cedar closet, four bedrooms, a detached garage, fairly new roof, all new insulated windows, a huge fenced yard, high cellings, the best heating system I have ever experienced, baseboard hot water, in an area where unskilled workers start at low to mid twenties, and I will be lucky to get eighty thousand dollars for it
. I have met people who moved here form California (small town east central PA with basically no crime) just so they could afford a home.
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Here's the news: A compulsive liar has been lying, and the people who report about the compulsive liar are shameless, and apparently brainless rumor mongers trying to gain ratings to increase the profit they make selling commercial time. Both the compulsive liar, the networks, cable networks, and popular mass media are almost entirely owned by the same people who own the various politicians (including Trump). They present an apparent adversarial relationship to the clueless public who is continually brainwashed by their spin and lies 24/7. This fake dichotomy: liberal/conservative, pro-trump/anti-trump, religious/pragmatic, up/down, right/wrong, true/false is continually infused into the collective awareness, in order to keep them divided and in conflict, so that a hand full of megalomaniac auto-compulsive psychopaths and their deviant sycophant enablers (including police and military that are willing to violate the rights of private citizens) can maintain the stranglehold they have over the wealth and destiny of humanity. And you all fall for it continually -- continually. . . . even the smart ass critics among you are deluded by the human nervous systems natural tendency to divide everything into two opposing vectors, simply because the nervous system itself operates on opposing charges we have designated as positive and negative in the ionic sphere. The reality is that almost no one has anything outside of the magic circle of these dichotomies to say. Not that I expect anything objective (outside of the scientific disciplines and even that is stretching it) out of humanity at this point, but you should at least know were you stand, if you are capable of that. You stand firmly on the shores of delusions made real by acts they inspire.
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he USA is not a democracy. It was never intended to be a democracy by the founders. It is a constitutional republic, which is a form of government designed to present the illusion of democracy to the populace while keeping real power and wealth in the hands of a few families and power elite plutocrats.
This may or may not be a good thing.
A real direct democracy, which is only evident in a few regions of Switzerland and nowhere else in the world, or history, would be a catastrophe in a culture which is most typified by it's public information being basically one or another narratives that are actually partisan webs of lies, as are evident in all our mass media venues.
You cannot have an effective democracy when there are no controls on the dissemination of disinformation and false narratives, by corporations chasing advertising revenues and scoundrels seeking power.
To think this will ever amount to anything other than the hodgepodge of insanity that is our public forum of debate is itself insane. It's time to grow up and wrest the sinews of our culture from the vision-less power seekers who control it. Human culture must evolve to propel humanity into it's possible golden destiny on earth and among the stars.
It is time to seriously move toward a culture that is a true meritocracy, a neoConfusian techno-meritocracy where there are government upgrades and not elections. Time to give up the old paradigms which are based on war and campaigns, deceit, and the scum rising to the top.
We have the technology and science to design a system that can truly determine the best candidates for positions of collective responsibility, by extreme and unbiased vetting, background checks, psychological tests, judgement evaluations by performance in intelligence tests and virtual scenarios, evaluation of past performance, sophistication of problem solving abilities and other verifiable objective methods rather than the standards now in use, (sex appeal, appearance, psychopathic tendencies, the ability to lie convincingly, what family you were born into, the animal lust to pursue power and how much you promise to steal for or from the one percent.)
Also there must be consequences for the dissemination of disinformation and conspiracy fantasies in mass media. I suggest caning and banishment after the confiscation of all wealth.
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The biggest single factor in climate change is the generation of greenhouse gases. Far more greenhouse gases are produced by animal agriculture than any other source (87% by animal ag as compared to 13% by all other sources: cars, planes, electric plants, etc.: combined)
The focus on burning fossil fuels is important, but diversionary. Animal agriculture is the elephant shi$$ing in the room, and it includes the massive burning of fossil fuels in it's production and transport technologies.
The most important thing a person can do to address climate change, as an individual, is to stop buying the products of animal agriculture, such as meat, dairy products (no Ben and Jerry's does not get a pass) leather goods, and furs.
If enough people do this, we will survive, if not, our grandchildren will be forced to decide if they should eat their babies in the hope of surviving a few more weeks when crops fail globally.
That's the choice: do we indulge our blind instinctive desires and rationalize them with self-centered reactive opinions, or do we leave future generations a planet worth living on?
Or do we just go on fruitlessly bitching about the injustice of things, and put off acting until it's beyond too late.
My personal bet is that the vast majority of us, even if convinced of the dire reality of the global climate situation, will go on with our rapacious lifestyles unabated.
Even so, those are the facts. Now -- are we rational moral beings, or just mad machines that really have no control over ourselves?
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No dude, the solution is to take the profit out of drugs, by decriminalizing them and making cocaine available to the fools who use it cheap. At one point when I was young I had a job doing fix-up and painting around the house of a retired general of the US armed forces. His wife had prescriptions for both cocaine and opium, legally as nose drops and paregoric. She had bottles of them in virtually every room of the house and she seemed to function quite normally. The whole illegal drugs thing is a scam, it is total bullshit, and the only solution that works is decriminalization and gov sponsored clinics where the drugs can be had and used safely like they have in Switzerland. Unless you want the drug barons and their banker launderers to continue to corrupt every facet of our Republic from Congress down to the beat cop level, and the incredibly ineffective enforcement apparatus which has proven that they can do nothing of significance regarding the problem except increase their own power and funding and shit on low level street level creeps.
When you make something like pot or opium illegal you make it so profitable that it will be smuggled and sold successfully no matter what enforcement techniques you use. It is natural to use and want to use drugs, cocaine is like coffee, only actually less toxic than pure caffeine. The worst drug by far as far as health and society is concerned is alcohol. You could use medically pure opioids most of your life without serious consequences, not so with alcohol. The reason drugs are illegal is power and money is derived from their prohibition, but the lies have the public in fear and no one has the courage to stand up because the bastards that profit from the prohibition have everything by the balls.
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Stupid comment of the day award!
Why is this a stupid comment?
There is absolutely no evidence that the US government smuggled heroin out of Afganistan. But that is just a minor point.
More important is the fact that the heroin that was produced in Afghanistan went to Iran, and Europe via traditional means. Though the US government attack on Al-Qaeda was temporarily supported by the Northern Alliance, which was largely heroin smugglers, and the US armed forces apparently did nothing to suppress opium production in Afghanistan, it did not in anyway facilitate the transport and smuggling of heroin, like it is rumored to have done out of the the Golden Triangle during the Vietnam conflict.
Also of note is the fact that the international banks that have been washing the ill-gotten gains of drug cartels is not in the least dependent upon heroin smuggling to supply them with billions of dollars to wash.
Why would anyone go through the trouble of growing fields of poppies, the incredibility labor intensive practice of collecting the poppy latex, processing it into opium, converting the opium into morphine base, and finally processing the morphine base into heroin, all in clandestine labs and fields, then smuggling it across multiple boarders and making all the payoff along the way, when they could just order the precursors for fentnyl legally from China, synthesize a few grams in Mexico and have enough "heroin" to supply their entire US distribution network for a week? Huh? Why? This is why: because either you care nothing about the actual facts of what is going on, and just want to present an anti-USA narrative, or your are living in the sixties, when poppy fields still mattered.
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@nutcheck3 The photos you saw were not of troops guarding poppy fields, they were told not to interfere or destroy crops back when those photos were taken. They just happened to be standing in a poppy fields for a photo op. Hey mom look, here I am standing in an opium poppy field. The Northern Alliance controlled the poppy production in Afghanistan. So since they basically kicked Al Quada out of Afghanistan we did not destroy their fields.
There is some evidence that opioids wee smuggled out of the golden triangle during the Vietnam War. Not as a part of any policy, but like the crack epidemic, by CIA operatives that didn't acknowledge any legal restraints on their activities.
So maybe some CIA contractors smuggled some drugs out of Asia, and certainly CIA operatives were involved in supporting the Contras with money they made smuggling cocaine into the states, but the US government is not smuggling heroin anywhere, that is just a myth many people would like to believe. Believe me, if the US government wanted to deal opioids in the US, they would just synthesis it in labs already in the country, or better yet in Mexico, they would not smuggle it out of Afghanistan. You can not only synthesis it thousands of times cheaper than growing poppies and refining them to opium>morphine base> heroin> pure heroin, but you can actually use genetically modified yeast to just piss opioids like brewers yeast does alcohol.
On the other hand although the US has spent billions of dollars trying to halt poppy production in Afghanistan and bombed over 2000 targets that supposedly served as production and distribution centers, they were largely impotent at curtailing or even suppressing the poppy production. Almost all of which goes to Iran and Europe.
The interesting (and real) question at this point is not whether or not the US government smuggles heroin (they don't) it is: will the Taliban, which formerly ended the entire opioid business in Afghanistan last time they ruled the country, now that they have been profiting from heroin production as an income source while they were out of power, reinstate their zero tolerance policy toward drugs?
One thing we know for sure is that it will be much harder for the Taliban to ban drugs now that it is their business.
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The USA is not a democracy. It was never intended to be a democracy by the founders. It is a constitutional republic, which is a form of government designed to present the illusion of democracy to the populace while keeping real power and wealth in the hands of a few families and power elite plutocrats.
This may or may not be a good thing.
A real direct democracy, which is only evident in a few regions of Switzerland and nowhere else in the world, or history, would be a catastrophe in a culture which is most typified by it's public information being basically one or another narrative that are actually partisan webs of lies, as are evident in all our mass media venues including this one (though not quite as bad as most).
You cannot have an effective democracy when there are no controls on the dissemination of disinformation and false narratives, by corporations chasing advertising revenues and scoundrels seeking power.
To think this will ever amount to anything other than the hodgepodge of insanity that is our public forum of debate is itself insane. It's time to grow up and wrest the sinews of our culture from the vision-less power seekers who control it. Human culture must evolve to propel humanity into it's possible golden destiny on earth and among the stars.
It is time to seriously move toward a culture that is a true meritocracy, a neoConfusian techno-meritocracy where there are government upgrades and not elections. Time to give up the old paradigms which are based on war and campaigns, deceit, and the scum rising to the top.
We have the technology and science to design a system that can truly determine the best candidates for positions of collective responsibility, by extreme and unbiased vetting, background checks, psychological tests, judgement evaluations by performance in intelligence tests and performance in virtual scenarios, evaluation of past performance, sophistication of problem solving abilities and other verifiable objective methods rather than the standards now in use, (sex appeal, appearance, psychopathic tendencies, the ability to lie convincingly, what family you were born into, the animal lust to pursue power and how much you promise to steal for or from the one percent.)
Also there must be consequences for the dissemination of disinformation and conspiracy fantasies in mass media. I suggest caning and banishment after the confiscation of all wealth.
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That would help a great deal, but , the solution is to take the profit out of drugs, by decriminalizing them and making cocaine available to the fools who use it cheap. At one point when I was young I had a job doing fix-up and painting around the house of a retired general of the US armed forces. His wife had prescriptions for both cocaine and opium, legally as nose drops and paregoric. She had bottles of them in virtually every room of the house and she seemed to function quite normally. The whole illegal drugs thing is a scam, it is total bullshit, and the only solution that works is decriminalization and gov sponsored clinics where the drugs can be had and used safely like they have in Switzerland. Unless you want the drug barons and their banker launderers to continue to corrupt every facet of our Republic from Congress down to the beat cop level, and the incredibly ineffective enforcement apparatus which has proven that they can do nothing of significance regarding the problem except increase their own power and funding and shit on low level street level creeps.
When you make something like pot or opium illegal you make it so profitable that it will be smuggled and sold successfully no matter what enforcement techniques you use. It is natural to use and want to use drugs, cocaine is like coffee, only actually less toxic than pure caffeine. The worst drug by far as far as health and society is concerned is alcohol. You could use medically pure opioids most of your life without serious consequences, not so with alcohol. The reason drugs are illegal is power and money is derived from their prohibition, but the lies have the public in fear and no one has the courage to stand up because the bastards that profit from the prohibition have everything by the balls.
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If you are gonna fact check all Trumps lies you will need a full time staff, and a two hour show dedicated to it each day. Trump can actually lie faster than he can talk. He lies just because he can't help himself, not that he wants to, but he is a compulsive -- that's COMPULSIVE liar. He lies even when it makes not sense, even when it makes no difference to anyone, even when it's against he own best interests. He is the ultimate sock puppet, the ultimate distraction for the profit of the people that have gained the largest transfer of wealth in American history. Guess who that would be? Really -- guess. One person it ain't for sure, is you, and 99 percent of his rube supporters. The Conman in Chief: the punishment inflicted on America by the insanely greedy upper upper, who he has tried to get to keep supporting him with dark money and tactics, by giving them windfall after windfall, and his base of political support: his insanely credulous know-less-than-nothing supporters -- along with the flock of scum-bag sycophant enablers that lick his butt. If you ain't sick to the point of gagging, of ALL TRUMP ALL THE TIME -- then you're probably too dumb to know you're stupid, . . . or very rich.
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That was then, this is now.
If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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This is great on one hand and it is total bullshit on another. The world has to step up in Ukraine. The entire world is being held hostage by nuclear blackmail. It is the biggest bluff of all history. Russia will not use nukes unless Russia is attacked within it's boarders. When asked if he would respond in kind to a nuclear barrage that hit Russia if, it's response would end human civilization Putin responded, "Of course, what would the world be without Russia?" The correct answer to that question is: "Better". The world would be a better place for everyone without Russia, and though they don't know or won't admit it, it would be a better place for Russians most of all. Why have the leaders in the free world lost their balls, especially Germany, remember the wall, you gutless German leaders, remember the Berlin crisis, were would you be today if the free world had not defied the soviets? Still in hell eating bowls of tears that's where.
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There are no indigenous people in the Americas, nor in Europe, Asia, Australia, nor any longer in Africa. All humans found outside of certain river valleys in Africa are an invasive species and due to migration, displacement, and climate changes, even present day humans to be found in these regions are not indigenous. What you refer to as indigenous peoples are merely a technologically unsophisticated invasive species. Your continual failure to admit the truth regarding human populations is just more spin. And your news, though better than the cable channels, is saturated with spin, and impoverished as far as hard facts about such matters are concerned.
Democracy Now's narrative never recognizes or mention the fact that the peoples they refer to as ingenious were, in precolumbian times, continually at war with each other. And their methods were totally politically incorrect and brutal. So brutal that the entire idea of surrendering to a victor was not even considered an option. Nobody seemed to want to be tortured as public entertainment for days on end, and handed over to the women and children to have sport with the last of you. If one was lucky they didn't eat you.
Of course now, they are peaceful environmentalists. Right -- They were such great environmentalist that one of the major extinction events just happened to coincide with their penetration of and propagation through out the Americas. Just like everywhere else on earth: in the Americas humans appeared, and the indigenous fauna crashed.
Gone also are the early European horse tribes. So gone: that they are generally not even known.
What really makes me laugh is the way that self-proclaimed sophisticated intellectuals, take claims of sacred mountains and special sacred lands seriously. Either you see the Buddha in a stick of dung (which is to say that everything is sacred if you are) or your are just spinning bullshit. And the narrative that Democracy Now spins about these remnants of stone age tribes is pure bullshit, probably derived from Hollywood's revisionist romantic fantasies about them that began appearing in the seventies. I would recommend Empire of the Summer Moon as an informative and engaging peek into the horribly brutal reality of the behavior exhibited by these tribes toward each other and the newer invaders from Europe. Give up your puddin' headed notions: born out of your own yearning for a more authentic existence in the face of the omnipresent media mind-fuck you live in.
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@yagiznebioglu1852 The biggest single factor in climate change is the generation of greenhouse
gases.
Far more greenhouse gases are produced by animal agriculture than any
other source (87% by animal ag as compared to 13% by all other sources,
cars, planes, electric plants, etc.: combined)
The most important thing you can do as an individual to address climate
change is to stop buying the products of animal agriculture, such as
meat, dairy products, leather goods, and furs.
If enough people do this, we will survive, if not, your grandchildren
will be forced to determine whether to eat their babies to survive a few
more weeks when crops fail globally.
Your choice, indulge your blind instinctive desires and rationalize them
with self-centered mindless opinions, or leave future generations an
earth worth living on.
Or you can just go on fruitlessly bitching about the injustice of things
like Bezo's money and ignore the situation until it is beyond too late.
My personal bet is that the vast majority of you, even if convinced of
the reality of the global climate situation will go on with your
rapacious lifestyles unabated.
Even so, those are the facts. Now -- are you a rational moral being, or a
mad machine that really has no control over yourself?
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If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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Prediction: We will figure out exactly how they cheated, then we will figure out the next way that they cheated, and the one after that, and so on: with a factual and rational narrative about the qualities of people who would do such things. We will even say, "They said it couldn't happen here.": out of ironic gallows humor. Maybe at times their cheating will be so outrageous that hundreds of thousand of people will march or occupy something, but amazingly, almost miraculously Mitch and Lindsey, and the rest of Caligula JR's little unholy Greek chorus will retain their offices, and they will go on cheating and bullying and claiming that the law is what ever they think it is at the moment. And we will figure it all out.
And you will make it funny and entertaining.
But now we have reached a point in politics where: as in the attempt to transcend one's own habitual mode of mental functioning: knowing doesn't matter. You may know that the associative functioning of the thought-centric mind is mechanical, but that doesn't transcend or transform anything.
So it is with our political system.
We have known forever that it would be best to get all money out of politics if the most ethical and fair government is what you want. We have known forever that proportional representation is superior to winner-takes-all seesaws. We have known that the banks are incapable of regulating themselves and that the wealth of the nation is being sucked up by the military industrial professional political worker complex, that the drug war is a farce that has created the first billionaire criminal organizations. In our hollowed out lives, news has become entertainment. And the fantasyland they present to the public is a poor substitute for what should have been the golden destiny of mankind on earth and in regions beyond.
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The Tesla model Y is the best selling car of any type in the world. It is the best selling car in Sweden too. The people who actually work for Tesla in Sweden want the unions to go away. Read the Swedish news. They know they will be better off without a union than with because the employee stock program will go away.
If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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In the sixties we saw that "There is no problem until there is trouble." The power elite and their misanthropic syncopates are not only out of touch, they are objectively insane in their behavior and the policies they establish. We thirst for justice, and after the possibility of a golden future for mankind. But they have no thirst for justice -- because -- they write the legislation, and it has become a legislation of privilege and legalized crimes, that is ultimately enforced by low level sell-outs and authoritarian types who have a taste for using the petty authority granted to them to push people around, lie in court and get away with murder. Or at the very least, stand with the blue mob's code of omerta.
Now people say, myself included, there are a lot of good cops. True that, but bad cops are just as common now, and the good cops ain't doin' shit about it. So functionally they are all pretty bad in total.
I don't know about you, but I have never in my seventy years needed a cop for anything. I've reported thefts: nothing came of it.
I have however gotten a few traffic tickets when I was young, for basically having a hot car and a pretty girl next to me. There was no need at all to break the law, they just were so full of hatred/envy -- Really.
I was arrested for pot in college by an undercover scumbag that everyone knew was an undercover scumbag, who simply turned in drugs to a state narcotics officer and said I sold them to him. Like everyone else the scumbag did the same thing to, I was given the choice of pleading guilty and doing a few weeks in jail or facing over ten years in prison.
I am not black, I was not poor, I didn't even have very long hair, which was a real reason for discrimination back then.
When I was in high school I wore a black armband for the VietNam moratorium. I was told to leave school for the day. I went to a local dinner and a young off duty cop asked me why I wasn't in school. I told him and he threw me to the ground and started strangling me.
Every cop I have ever seen testify in court, just out and out lied. They had it all written down, what didn't happen, with such impressive notes about times and what not
I don't think that my experience is anomalous. I think it is pretty representative of most people.
Now I just treat the police like they are all potentially violent insane people, who may or may not bite. Police in America is really, mostly an alternate venue of taxation. All most all of us would be better off without them.
Doesn't it cost more to imprison a man than to give him an ivy league education? Innocent men in prison is money in the bank for these reptilian brained psychotics, we call our leaders, the politician, and our real leaders, the politicians' owners. The banksters, and the hidden money, the insiders, the power elite.
They are pretty much assholes.
But they control the men with the guns.
But not all of them, thanks to the second amendment.
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@danpham333 Back. It's a meaningless stat because you are comparing all business. So of course established companies that are large enough to be targeted by unions will average more than the conglomeration of business that are less profitable. Migrant workers, part time everything thrown into one. The problem with your reasoning is that Tesla is singular. I don't know where you live, but here in central PA anyone with no experience can walk into a plant and get a job of twenty plus dollars per hour. My cleaning lady makes $25 per hour -- no skills, no union, and $3 less than the average union autoworker salary and she has more work than she can take. Plus it's cash and the chances are minimal that she pays taxes on it and of course no dues.
Take an autoworker who is ready to retire. Started work in the eighties. I am not going to do the math, but I guarantee you, if you took the money he spent on dues over thirty years and had invested it in a stock index he would be far better off financially. And then if they had taken their stock and sold it and bought TEsla five years ago, every dollar they invested would be worth $1,141. So if they invested a messily 1k they would be more than a millionare today. If they had invested all their union dues for thirty years they would have more then 12million dollars today. That is using $15/hr from beginning to end for thirty years and you know they would have made more than that.
On the other hand the UAW considers their latest wins a victory. These companies that caved will all be gone within a decade. No more GM, or STelantis, Ford may survive, and possibly Toyota if they copy Tesla and purchase tech from them. GM will once again come begging for a gov bail out that once again they will not repay. Plus it is all irrelevant because no one will be doing unskilled manual labor, and possibly not legal work, or a hundred other jobs that AI and the inevitable humanoid robots will be performing vastly better. No labor in the future so unions will serve no practical purpose. Even now if you teach one Teslbot a skill all of them become just as accomplished as the one that was taught it.
In the future this will mean tens of thousands of bots will be able to master tasks in no time, instead of months and years.
Unions and guilds served their purpose but nothing can stop what is now happening.
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@abasilumsmith91 Absolute nothing at all. And Tesla is attempting to make a secure and lavish life not just for it's employees but eventually for everybody. And that takes concentrated capital, vast amounts of it allocated in strategic industries both for the security of families and the race as a whole, That's what the whole independent off world colony thing is about. Musk knows he will be dead before it happens, but he is striving to secure it. These things are not a secret, it's all spelled out in Tesla's not so secret secret plan that was published years ago. If you are young enough you will live to see thousands of Tesla bots landing on Mars, perhaps with a few scientists and engineers, and building and infrastructure out of native materials that will provide the seed for a real self-sustaining colony. Then, asteroids, nuclear war, climate change may come, eventually some extinction event will happen, it has over and over. But now thanks to this much maligned revolutionary thinker, consciousness will survive, in an otherwise dark universe (as far as we know). So I guess that having a month or two vacation, or a two year maternity leave is nice, but so irrelevant in the big picture.
And of course the other off shoot of the convergence of tech breakthroughs the world is now witnessing will be affluence for all, and most likely a health-span of a vigorous few centuries. So what is important, the vision and pursuit of human ascendancy and it's golden destiny among the stars or a six week long vacation like my French friend who washed windows got?
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@sk0pe Wow, you must get a thrill out of being wrong. The only European country with higher EV subs that the USA is Norway7.
At one point Tesla did get a gov loan. Unlike the unionized GM: Tesla payed it back, early, with interest.
I am not talking trickle down economics at all, that's just more rhetorical bull on your part. I personally am in favor of a generous guaranteed income for everyone, given not in gov programs or vouchers, but in cash. Except in instances where the recipient is not capable of handling it to help themselves. Because we are gonna need it, and we are gonna get it, because the present economic paradigm is about to explode due to disruptive tech. First here in the USA, Canada and Mexico, but eventually for all mankind.
When you are living in the coming world of abundance and the golden destiny of mankind among the stars then what are you gonna bitch about? (I'm sure you will find something).
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@sk0pe I read what you said about Tesla employee stock program not benefiting the lowest wage workers and I was interested so I looked up the facts, read the program details and found out the the actual truth regarding what you wrote. Here it is Elroy.
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
And example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On Feburary 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit it even though it is a FACT.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: You are a shilll spewing nonsense who believes the lies of commercial media.
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News flash: CNN, MSNBC, and the usual suspects report:. . . In the primary
race between Sanders and Buttigieg, Pete came in second over all, while
Sanders came in next to last.
Democracy and the so called representative democracy, democratic republic or constitutional republic are very different things.
They are forms of democracy. In most cases minus the democracy part. When people blithely state that we live in a democracy it is incorrect and misleading, like most of the paradigms that the public is continually bombarded with via the corporate news.
A republic is just a way for the plutocrats to stay in power and still have people think they are in a participatory democracy. The only democracy in US government is is that of congress, and they are 98% owned by the power-elite that decide who will run and fund their reelection campaigns with the legalized bribes of their campaign contributions.
There is representation, but not for you and me. We live in a farce. Are you not paying attention? Do you think that this cheating is something new? Your "representatives" are not there to represent you, they are there for the most part to make sure that the voices of the people never get heard, and if they get heard to never be acted upon. Or if they are once in a blue moon forced by popular uprising to act for the people, soon as the masses disperse they will dismember the body that threatened their power one discontent at a time, jailed, disappeared, or simply smeared and ignored by the corporate media. Have you not been present? Look around. . . .
Real democracy, true democracy exists nowhere on earth other than present day Switzerland and never has (that I am aware of). Representative democracy is a convoluted fraudulent conception. Democracy is something that we are continually told we have, which we do not.
We have democracy in the same sense that the slaves, women, citizens without land, and foreigners had a democracy in the golden age of Athens. Only they knew that they did not have a vote or any real participation in the government. Most Americans do not know that.
It should be obvious to anybody with the slightest ability to perceive what is actually going on that this is a conceptual illusion that is used to mislead and quell the disenfranchised mob. Bring on the super-delegates, the Iowa national delegate formula, the electoral collage, the PACz and Citizens United -- a democracy would not abide these contaminants, or entertain their adoption for even a moment.
A democracy and the state we live in are two very different things. In a democracy the one with the most votes is not the loser like in the USA. The courts have decided that even determination of who will be the candidates, such as occurs in the legendary smoke filled rooms of the DNC and RNC has no legal obligation to be fair or democratic in our two party system. . . . ???????
We live in a kleptocracy with a democratic shroud over it, and most people, like almost all people, do not understand how their rights and money are being stolen from them by corporate pilferage and plunder. In fact our present government is functionally a cryptofascist kleptocracy in which all real power, control of the men with guns and uniforms, the state, and the economy is held by a small group of lying psychopaths. Like Robert Mercer,, the Koch brother, Bezos and the mob of banksters that suck up the wealth of the nation like vampires and offer nothing but bullshit and corruption in return.
And you CNN, are a big part of it. In fact people will come to recognize that you are a key member of the new axis of evil. FaceBook -- Buttigieg -- CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfQ7Zo6m9yg
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@Nine-Signs Politics sucks ass. Isn't it apparent to everyone by now that our political system is an archaic artifact? An artifact based on humanities inability to escape it's bestial warlike nature . . . :campaigns, winner take all victories, leaders who neither lead (excepting the advancement of the concerns of their patrons) nor have the wisdom to make intelligent impartial decisions on the issues of the day. This political web of deceit is a self-perpetuating parasite that warps collective social culture and is itself continually warped due to shameful self-interested exploitation by those who control the economy through control of debt manipulation. Interests and principalities that spew false narratives which have contaminated every aspect of our expectations of daily life, and our future aspirations (or lack of them).
I suggest to you that there are other alternatives. Far more efficient alternatives, that would benefit the whole of society and reduce the corruption that is not only a systemic disease of our political system, but is now the very sinew, marrow, and circulatory system, of a body politic that has done everything possible to free itself from both morality and justice: through legislative and legal complexities, technicality, outright lies, and all manner of fuckery.
It is time to evolve folks. Like a cool pool on a hot day, once you take the plunge it's refreshing and rejuvenating, but before you take that plunge there is hesitation and a resistance to a state change. And we must change the state of our state unless we consider moving into the future by looking through a rear-view mirror and stepping on our own dicks every step of the way while perpetually bitiching about it to be some kind of desirable human prerogative. Because as it is, it will never be able to meet our real human needs or provide anything more than updated reruns of the same old conundrums.
If human culture and civilization is to advance it must evolve to a higher state, a higher system of state, which will nurture higher states of mind in the populace, not continually drag it back by aggravating the primal survival instinct in a technological environment wherein this instinct is counterproductive on numerous levels.
I suggest to you that a body politic based on a NeoConfusian Techno-Meritocracy would be so vastly superior for the state of the state, state of the economy, state of human advancement, and our collective state of mind, that any comparison to the present drunken-knife-fight-in-a-gilded-bordello that passes for our government would be comical.
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@mydogsbutler Well you have been the victim of misinformation: social security and medicare and medicade are off the table. It is not Musk's company, he only owns 13 percent of Tesla, most is owned by small retail investors that believe in the good that Tesla has done for humanity. Tesla could go bankrupt and Musk would still be the richest man in the world. Musk pays his taxes always and never complained or tried to cheat. You are like a rabid person who is drowning in hatred fueled by a totally biased media. What you don't understand is that almost all reporting about Tesla is BS: why? Because unlike Ford, GM, and the other OEMs Tesla does not pay billions of dollars a year to advertise their products. Last year GM spent over two billion dollars on ads. The mass media has been trying to shake Tesla down for that ad vig for years. The actual truth about Musk is that everything he does has one aim, and that is to insure the survival of mankind during the next inevitable extinction level event. While a billion people with ten dollars each may be able to buy a happy meal each, one man with ten billion dollars or more could actually allocated the resources necessary to give humanity a change at survival. Musk is into efficiency he has developed the most efficient production methods on earth. The government is rife with corruption, kickbacks, and graft, and he sees this as standing in the way of his ultimate goal, which is to insure human survival. Get a life you hate filled fool.
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@mydogsbutler Well you have been the victim of misinformation: social security and medicare and medicade are off the table. It is not Musk's company, he only owns 13 percent of Tesla, most is owned by small retail investors that believe in the good that Tesla has done for humanity. Tesla could go bankrupt and Musk would still be the richest man in the world. Musk pays his taxes always and never complained or tried to cheat. You are like a rabid person who is drowning in hatred fueled by a totally biased media. What you don't understand is that almost all reporting about Tesla is BS: why? Because unlike Ford, GM, and the other OEMs Tesla does not pay billions of dollars a year to advertise their products. Last year GM spent over two billion dollars on ads. The mass media has been trying to shake Tesla down for that ad vig for years. The actual truth about Musk is that everything he does has one aim, and that is to insure the survival of mankind during the next inevitable extinction level event. While a billion people with ten dollars each may be able to buy a happy meal each, one man with ten billion dollars or more could actually allocated the resources necessary to give humanity a change at survival. Musk is into efficiency he has developed the most efficient production methods on earth. The government is rife with corruption, kickbacks, and graft, and he sees this as standing in the way of his ultimate goal, which is to insure human survival. Get a life you hate filled fool.
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@mydogsbutler Well you have been the victim of misinformation: entitlements like social security and medicare and medicade are off the table. It is not Musk's company, he only owns 13 percent of Tesla, most is owned by small retail investors that believe in the good that Tesla has done for humanity. Tesla could go bankrupt and Musk would still be the richest man in the world. Musk pays his taxes always and never complained or tried to cheat.
What you don't understand is that almost all reporting about Tesla is BS: why? Because unlike Ford, GM, and the other OEMs Tesla does not pay billions of dollars a year to advertise their products. Last year GM spent over two billion dollars on ads. The mass media has been trying to shake Tesla down for that ad vig for years. The actual truth about Musk is that everything he does has one aim, and that is to insure the survival of mankind during the next inevitable extinction level event. Perhaps you don't understand or care what inevitable means or why it is so, or why it could happen anytime? While ten billion people with ten dollars each may be able to buy a happy meal each, one man with a hundred billion dollars or more could actually allocated the resources necessary to give humanity a change at survival. Musk is into efficiency he has developed the most efficient production methods on earth. The government is rife with corruption, kickbacks, and graft, and he sees this as standing in the way of his ultimate goal, which is to insure human survival.
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The emergent meta-functionality of democracy cannot manifest in a culture of lies and spin.
Humans, like ants and other social creatures are capable of displaying emergent qualities. That is: as a group they are capable of functionality that is impossible on an individual level. This is not only a factor on the obvious level, such as ants display in finding the most efficient route to a food source or building a bridge of their own bodies to traverse some void that would stymie an individual ant,
but it is also a factor when considering the determination of the most correct estimation or conclusion in a political sense, when a society is self-influenced through popular vote, or social pressures.
An example of this would be a game of chance that is sometimes come upon at a county fair or other event. There could be a huge urn with an irregular shape (not a simple cylinder or similar) and it is filled with, let us say, jelly beans. You are given the opportunity to buy a "chance" to win a Corvette or if you correctly guess the number of jelly beans. . . . A near impossible problem, that one could only get right by gross estimation combined with dumb luck. With a large enough population of guesses
the average of all the guesses will in almost every event
be more accurate than the most accurate individual guess.l
This could be thought of as the genius potential of democracy.
The exception being: that one in a hundred event wherein someone guessed right just by luck. However if within the hundreds of thousands of jellybeans there was a void, such as could be caused by a number of hidden grapefruits or softballs, this emergent function of the an accurate average would no longer manifest, and instead we would get a very inaccurate estimation of the situation from the average. These grapefruits represent dis, or misinformation, or as is the case with political entities, outright lies or spin.
And so the genius of the meta-funtionality potential of the democratic process is totally negated by "free speech" without regard to actual facts.
Who should be the arbiter of what is factual and what isn't?
Physical reality,
not eyewitness reports, or any kind of disruptive self-promoting verbal vomit from politicians or political social entities.
Even the ancient Greeks knew that the last people on earth that should be trusted with political power are those who actively seek it.
It would be very beneficial and profitable if -- politically -- we were to enter an era of competency and merit, wherein everyone is given an equal opportunity to display acumen for positions of power through testing, which would include high pressure simulated scenarios, psychological profiling, general knowledge, and specific expertise.
But instead it's politics as usual, Which is kind of sickening, and boring, trite, inept, a magnet for high functioning psychopaths, etc. etc. Makes old Three Stooges flicks look profound in comparison.
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@dannywindham3295 If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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Well then you are "for" a lost cause, because people have always done drugs, especially caffeine and alcohol, and it is natural to do drugs, there is no part of human history wherein people haven't used drugs, even the most ancient Scythian sites have contained devices that were used to smoke pot.
No dude, the solution is to take the profit out of drugs, by decriminalizing them and making cocaine available to the fools who use it cheap. At one point when I was young I had a job doing fix-up and painting around the house of a retired general of the US armed forces. His wife had prescriptions for both cocaine and opium, legally as nose drops and paregoric. She had bottles of them in virtually every room of the house and she seemed to function quite normally. The whole illegal drugs thing is a scam, it is total bullshit, and the only solution that works is decriminalization and gov sponsored clinics where the drugs can be had and used safely like they have in Switzerland. Unless you want the drug barons and their banker launderers to continue to corrupt every facet of our Republic from Congress down to the beat cop level, and the incredibly ineffective enforcement apparatus which has proven that they can do nothing of significance regarding the problem except increase their own power and funding and shit on low level street level creeps.
When you make something like pot or opium illegal you make it so profitable that it will be smuggled and sold successfully no matter what enforcement techniques you use. It is natural to use and want to use drugs, cocaine is like coffee, only actually less toxic than pure caffeine. The worst drug by far as far as health and society is concerned is alcohol. You could use medically pure opioids most of your life without serious consequences, not so with alcohol. The reason drugs are illegal is power and money is derived from their prohibition, but the lies have the public in fear and no one has the courage to stand up because the bastards that profit from the prohibition have everything by the balls.
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No dude, the solution is to take the profit out of drugs, by decriminalizing them and making cocaine available to the fools who use it cheap. At one point when I was young I had a job doing fix-up and painting around the house of a retired general of the US armed forces. His wife had prescriptions for both cocaine and opium, legally as nose drops and paregoric. She had bottles of them in virtually every room of the house and she seemed to function quite normally. The whole illegal drugs thing is a scam, it is total bullshit, and the only solution that works is decriminalization and gov sponsored clinics where the drugs can be had and used safely like they have in Switzerland. Unless you want the drug barons and their banker launderers to continue to corrupt every facet of our Republic from Congress down to the beat cop level, and the incredibly ineffective enforcement apparatus which has proven that they can do nothing of significance regarding the problem except increase their own power and funding and shit on low level street level creeps.
When you make something like pot or opium illegal you make it so profitable that it will be smuggled and sold successfully no matter what enforcement techniques you use. It is natural to use and want to use drugs, cocaine is like coffee, only actually less toxic than pure caffeine. The worst drug by far as far as health and society is concerned is alcohol. You could use medically pure opioids most of your life without serious consequences, not so with alcohol. The reason drugs are illegal is power and money is derived from their prohibition, but the lies have the public in fear and no one has the courage to stand up because the bastards that profit from the prohibition have everything by the balls.
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Yeah right except for the most desirable standard of living on earth, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, the Netherlands, all democratic socialists. And they actually have more freedom than the totally capitalist counties -- like -- well there are none except for those where the gov totally failed like Somalia.
They tried this in Chile when the scoundrels from Chicago took over the economy and plunged it into capitalist hell.
Though I do find it detestable that the US gov attempts time and time again to punish Tesla for being a fantastic success.
But this is all old think, these days are almost gone, a degree of socialism will be a necessity when the effects of revolutionary tech like AI, robots, and medical advances bring on the world of super abundance, despite the harping of politicians on both sides.
If you really study history and mankind in general, it is obvious that the leaders we choose ARE the main problem. We naturally choose psychopaths as the alphas, and the time for this has long passed. Time to start psychological testing of all political hacks, and have them compete in tests and stimulated scenarios before the can even get on any ballot.
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This is so lame, they will not touch the largest cause of climate change: animal agriculture.
IF all the forests that were cut down to provide pasture land since 1800 were allowed to reforest we would have no climate change. Look at the middle east, huge tracts of wasteland, caused by ignorance and subsistence grazing of sheep and goats since way before 1800. Yet it has been proven over and over, that if you stop the grazing, and reintroduce native grasses, IN A MATTER OF YEARS, fresh water springs will appear because the aquifers have refilled, because the grasses allow the natural water and moisture to penetrate the soil and not just run off. Then in a little longer forests will start to grow. This will work in land that is currently totally barren. Yet this is never, ever addressed by politicians because of the money from the meat and dairy industry. Heat pumps, induction stoves, etc. are these people morons? 86% of the greenhouse gases are produced by animal agriculture, not to mention the fact that it has also been proven over and over by real science (that science not underwritten by the meat and dairy industry) that the meat and dairy you eat is killing you. The WHO has classified processed meat products as class one carcinogens same as plutonium and cigarettes. You have been the victim of a relentless (not "unrelenting" as the people who say "wheelhouse" instead of "purview" would say, lol) disinformation campaign. Wake up and let the planet and yourself return to health. Their is so much disinformation on this matter, that if you find you way clear to a realistic narrative it is almost miraculous. And the effect on your health will indeed be miraculous.
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I like Niall, but claiming that democracy is the best we can do is not only incorrect, but alludes to a state of government that actually exists nowhere on earth.
The first and most important thing to understand about democracy is that it capable of harnessing epigenetic suprahuman judgements and decisions that are totally beyond the abilities of any single human, no matter their intelligence or knowledge.
Like ants who as individuals have no knowledge of how to build a bridge out of their bodies or choose the path that leads to just discovered food, yet as a group, are able to manifest extraordinary versitility and adaptability that are nowhere to be found in an individual ant.
And just as it has been pointed out that the average of the guesses at the solution of a problem whose complexity is beyond the reckoning of the individual guessers, is almost always more accurate than the single most accurate guess. Such as takes place when a very large number of jelly beans are placed in an urn in order to raffle off a car to the closes guess at the exact number of beans in a large urn. The average guess is almost always more accurate than any individual guess.
But the urn at a county fair charity auction does not have the likes of Fox News to contend with. That is, it does not have some mechanism of deception at play, like a hidden grapefruit in among the jellybeans, that undermines the ability to make one's best guess.
But the extraordinary epigenetic advantages of democracy will never be allowed to have it's day. There is no democracy anywhere. Lots of republics, which give the illusion of a democracy while maintaining the status quo of the power elite, who, as amazingly coincidental as it seems, are exactly the reason everything is a mess in the first place.
Any democratic revolution is quickly subsumed by the forces of corruption, as are all the more authoritarian forms of government.
I personally am in favor of a kind of Retro-Confucian-Techno-Meritocracy that would assign offices to various candidates based on their abilities to pass a harrowing course of tests and simulated scenarios, as a regularly scheduled government upgrade open to all, and perhaps participated in by all mandatorily, since the last person on earth to whom you should ever invest power over others is someone who seeks it. No matter their rationalizations and lies to themselves or others.
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@lukehallatt394 More like 40k a day. That rate is wearing out barrels faster than they can be replaced. Western weapons have more range than Russian and are much more accurate. One rocket propelled excalibur shell can do what twenty dumb outdated Russian shells often cannot. Russia is unable to replace its high tech missiles. But the main thing is that Russia is at the edge of a cliff of demographic collapse. Everyone with any potential who was able to, has fled Russia, It is not able to produce enough people to continue on the level it has been, It has massive drug addiction, way higher than the west or the USA and alcohol problems, rampant AIDs and one out of every four Russians has a antibiotic resitant form of TB. Russia has basically no future, that's why it is making it's move now, before it just collapses.
And at the same time, Putin is the world richest man. He holds his wealth via third party insiders who he holds the power of life and death over. This wealth is hidden in dummy corporations set up by German lawyers in Panama, and most of it is invested in American corporations, many of them in the defense industry. So when Putin attacks a country that responds with American weapons, it is a very good financial move for him personally.
And the cancellations of Russian built armaments just keep slipping in.
Basically if you see Russia accusing another country of some inhumane or bellicose act it is a sure sign that they do it themselves and the accused does not. They have been playing the same tune since the revolution, and anyone with any sense and potential should get out if they can.
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How much more evidence do people need to understand that the DNC is composed of cheating compromised co-opted scumbags? Slowly via the new distributed media of the internet people are learning about their continuing ongoing dirty tricks in the service of their oligarch masters.
The cheating has already begun with the introduction of an app that Iowa caucus will use to report local results.
From the sellouts at NPR:
Iowa's Democrats hope the new app lets the party get results out to
the public quicker, says Troy Price, the chairman of the state party.
In an interview, Price declined to provide more details about which
company or companies designed the app, or about what specific measures
have been put in place to guarantee the system's security.
But security is a priority, he says. The state party worked with the national party's cybersecurity team, and with
Harvard University's Defending Digital Democracy project, but Price
declined to answer directly whether any third party has investigated the
app for vulnerabilities, as many cybersecurity experts recommend.
"We as the party have taken this very seriously, and we know how important
it is for us to make sure that our process is secure and that we protect
the integrity of the process," Price says. "We want to make sure we are
not relaying information that could be used against us."
Unlike many states in which local and state officials oversee the presidential
primary election, in Iowa the state party is responsible for
administering, staffing and funding the caucuses, relying primarily on
trained but unpaid volunteers.
Cybersecurity experts interviewed by NPR said that the party's decision to withhold the
technical details of its app doesn't do much to protect the system — and
instead makes it hard to have complete confidence in it.
"The idea of security through obscurity is almost always a mistake," says
Doug Jones, a computer science professor at the University of Iowa and a
former caucus precinct leader. "Drawing the blinds on the process
leaves us, in the public, in a position where we can't even assess the
competence of the people doing something on our behalf."
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The USA is not a democracy. It was never intended to be a democracy by the founders. It is a constitutional republic, which is a form of government designed to present the illusion of democracy to the populace while keeping real power and wealth in the hands of a few families and power elite plutocrats.
This may or may not be a good thing.
A real direct democracy, which is only evident in a few regions of Switzerland and nowhere else in the world, or history, would be a catastrophe in a culture which is most typified by it's public information being basically one or another narrative that are actually partisan webs of lies, as are evident in all our mass media venues including this one (though not quite as bad as most).
You cannot have an effective democracy when there are no controls on the dissemination of disinformation and false narratives, by corporations chasing advertising revenues and scoundrels seeking power.
To think this will ever amount to anything other than the hodgepodge of insanity that is our public forum of debate is itself insane. It's time to grow up and wrest the sinews of our culture from the vision-less power seekers who control it. Human culture must evolve to propel humanity into it's possible golden destiny on earth and among the stars.
It is time to seriously move toward a culture that is a true meritocracy, a neoConfusian techno-meritocracy where there are government upgrades and not elections. Time to give up the old paradigms which are based on war and campaigns, deceit, and the scum rising to the top.
We have the technology and science to design a system that can truly determine the best candidates for positions of collective responsibility, by extreme and unbiased vetting, background checks, psychological tests, judgement evaluations by performance in intelligence tests and performance in virtual scenarios, evaluation of past performance, sophistication of problem solving abilities and other verifiable objective methods rather than the standards now in use, (sex appeal, appearance, psychopathic tendencies, the ability to lie convincingly, what family you were born into, the animal lust to pursue power and how much you promise to steal for or from the one percent.)
Also there must be consequences for the dissemination of disinformation and conspiracy fantasies in mass media. I suggest caning and banishment after the confiscation of all wealth.
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Border security is the issue that Trump will slaughter any progressive on. They will trumpet the idea that Bernie wants open borders even though it's not true. The Americans who have been victimized by the power-elite will once again blame it on the least among us. Americans do not want people allowed into the country just because they decided to ignore our laws. Why can't the people that I agree with on almost every other issue understand this. The people who will decide who wins the election, the 70k rust belt voters, want people to follow the law when applying for citizenship. And if the idea is in their mind that Bernie will have open boarders or reward those who spat on our laws to enter illegally, Trump will win again. Now you know why he will win.
These are the issues that make Trump 1- border security, 2 - abortion 3 - 2nd amendment rights. These are the issues that the people whose votes count the most care the most about. If you don't realize this you are one of the people living in a PC dreamland.
Abortion and firearms are the matters that will determine the votes of many people who are willing to vote against their own best interests no matter what. Border security and the rewarding of those whom, like Trump, think that they are above the law by entering illegally is the issue that will determine the election.
If Bernie wants to win he better change his tune on citizenship for those that entered illegally, and convince the public that he will not open the borders. If you think we have a polarized society now with an evaporating middle class, look at any country south of the border, Americans do not want that for their country.
PS. I predict a huge caravan of Central Americanss making it's way toward the US border during the election. Think about how that will play to those 70k rust belt voters. Trump will win in a landslide unless Bernie modifies his position on the people who are already here and the manner in which these people are processed legally.
We must stop rewarding people for breaking our laws, both Trump and his ilk, and those who enter the country illegally.
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I am just befuddled by the implication of the name. As you know, Prometheus is the titan that stole fire from the gods and gave it to mankind. Which in general metaphoric terms means he bestowed technology on them, the advent of technology implies the ignition of the symbolic thought beyond the genetically directed instinctive behaviors. The advent of man representing to himself what can be, instead of just perceiving "what is". He sees a dried field, he can imagine it as what it is not: an irritated field. He sees water flowing in a ditch, he imagines it as it is not: rising above it;'s own level, and envisions the configurations, some workable some not, of materials that could result in water doing this very un-water-like action. This would later lead to all kinds of problems with humanity called differences of opinion, especially about one of his other fantasies that came true, geopolitics. Needless to say we are far down the rabbit hole and stating that all this kind of military development is insane to begin with, means little in a world dominated by the results of mankind seeing things "not as they are". Without which possibility there would be no technological, intellectual, or artistic culture.
But of course this angered the gods, because really, igniting the mind function in man was analogous to eating the apple that got another mythical character expelled from paradise.
So the gods condemned Prometheus to be chained to a rock for eternity, and each day an eagle would fly down and tear out his liver and eat it. I guess titans can grow back their livers in a day.
So what the hell were the people who named this missile getting at, if anything?
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Perhaps people should take half of what Elon says with a grain of salt and just disregard the rest? Unless he is talking about large issues, socio-evolutionary issues, issues concerning humanity and the possible futures available in human destiny: then by all means take him seriously, or, if, for instance, he is talking about technological specifics, having to do with real physical problems, but when it comes to politics, and economics and especially media image, he is playing someone else's game in someone else's venue and the fix is in.
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@Danford Smith I am always surprised and delighted when someone responds to something I have posted without hostility or some immature form of criticism.
As you point out, these new forms of media present a challenge and there is no shortage of persons with views that entail various degrees of squirrelliness (if that is a word).
My main interest is in the apparent ability that some very few people have to experience their existence in a hyperconsious manner. This has been my raison d'etre for well over fifty years. So please indulge me if everything I mention is relative to the central concept (as erroneous as any such conception necessarily is) of awakening or enlightenment.
If a person is not enlightened at the very moment, even if they themselves have had experiences wherein they were conscious in a manner that makes their ordinary state appear impoverished, mechanical, and dead by comparison, they know nothing about this higher state, can't say anything accurate or useful about it, and have no memories about it that aren't self-deception. Of course if one is talking, or thinking (or writing) they ain't -- as it's called -- AWAKE.
I almost wrote a little discourse on why AI will never be conscious. But alternately and just as accurately I could have written about why the thought-centric-mind (which most people refer to as "I") is not, and can never be conscious. I can hear the objections rising in minds out there even before I have posted this. But just for a minute for the benefit of anyone who may come across this, whose potential for an enriched form of conscious functioning has not totally atrophied, let's just imagine that the view I am presenting is less incorrect than their present view: that they are the source of their thoughts and that the thought arising in them are theirs.
Well I am going to stop now. I doubt if this made any sense to anyone or if there is anyone out there who would be interested enough to merit further comment. But allow me to once more quote one of my favorite statements on this apparent subject (I say "apparent" because what I am attempting to refer to, is not and CANNOT be a subject). When referring to what can be considered accurate in this regard Carlos Dwa wrote:
. . . "If you can think it, it cannot be correct."
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Politics sucks ass. Isn't it apparent to everyone by now that our political system is an archaic artifact? An artifact based on humanities inability to escape it's bestial warlike nature . . . :campaigns, winner take all victories, leaders who neither lead (excepting the advancement of the concerns of their patrons) nor have the wisdom to make intelligent impartial decisions on the issues of the day. This political web of deceit is a self-perpetuating parasite that warps collective social culture and is itself continually warped due to shameful self-interested exploitation by those who control the economy through control of debt manipulation. Interests and principalities that spew false narratives which have contaminated every aspect of our expectations of daily life, and our future aspirations (or lack of them).
I suggest to you that there are other alternatives. Far more efficient alternatives, that would benefit the whole of society and reduce the corruption that is not only a systemic disease of our political system, but is now the very sinew, marrow, and circulatory system, of a body politic that has done everything possible to free itself from both morality and justice: through legislative and legal complexities, technicality, outright lies, and all manner of fuckery.
It is time to evolve folks. Like a cool pool on a hot day, once you take the plunge it's refreshing and rejuvenating, but before you take that plunge there is hesitation and a resistance to a state change. And we must change the state of our state unless we consider moving into the future by looking through a rear-view mirror and stepping on our own dicks every step of the way while perpetually bitiching about it to be some kind of desirable human prerogative. Because as it is, it will never be able to meet our real human needs or provide anything more than updated reruns of the same old conundrums.
If human culture and civilization is to advance it must evolve to a higher state, a higher system of state, which will nurture higher states of mind in the populace, not continually drag it back by aggravating the primal survival instinct in a technological environment wherein this instinct is counterproductive on numerous levels.
I suggest to you that a body politic based on a NeoConfusian Techno-Meritocracy would be so vastly superior for the state of the state, state of the economy, state of human advancement, and our collective state of mind, that any comparison to the present drunken-knife-fight-in-a-gilded-bordello that passes for our government would be comical.
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These "news people" are shameless. It is so obvuous that Bloomburg has some of then co-opted. Money talks and Bloomburg's money also tips.
Did you see the debate? If so why would you care what these people think? They are all elitists, some of them are nice elitists, but come on. they have been dismissing Bernie since the get go and now are being forced to admit the reality.
What is the reality? The reality is that Bernie is not only the most popular senator, not only the most popular politician in Congress, not only the most popular politician in the Country he is the most popular politician in the world -- because thinking and compassionate people the world over are praying that the USA will come out of this movement into unconsciousness and the promotion of a policies based on primitive emotions and knee-jerk reactions will come to an end. They know they need us, and they need us sane and humane if civilization is going to have any chance of surviving the psychopaths that have gotten themselves into positions of power via charisma and cunning.
To these "journalists" this is a game that pays more money, the more stupid things they can say about it.
This is not a game. If the right-wing nuts like Mercer, and his flunkies, like Trump, maintain the reigns of power: your are getting a deal on a squirt gun while your house is in a fire storm of lies and disinformation, on subjects that will determine the lives of your children and perhaps yourself.
End this insanity. Pick the right man for a change, not the richest, the best connected or the one that lies best, choose who you actually think is the best. . . not the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils is the choice that Goldman Sachs and the other banksters will give you.
This is your one chance in your lifetime to vote for a real person who is not a cats paw for elements of corruption.
It's not a sexy subject but it you pay attention, Bernie knows how important it is to get money out of elections.
How important is it? It is the most important issue. It is the basis of the legalized bribery that insures that you elected official are there: not to represent the voice of the people, no, rather they are there to make sure that the voice of the people never gets a hearing, and if by some chance on some issue it does get a hearing they will make sure it is never acted upon.
Don't be fearful and full of hate, humanity has a golden destiny that has been stolen from the many by the few. It is time to wake up and clarify our nation's values once more. Not in meaningless word or deceitful narratives designed to seduce by playing to fears and greed. We cannot move into the new age using a rear-view mirror for a guidance system. Don't be afraid, Bernie's views and positions are not more radical than the Scandinavian views and practices and even the vaunted quality of upward social mobility is higher in all of them then it is here. Not to mention personal happiness and financial security and safety. Don't let the people who own the media make you paranoid. They have a greedy reason for misrepresenting the fact as did Boomburg tonight with is talk of communism and such. It's just ridiculous that he could stand there and insult the public's intelligence so blatantly. Fear not, feel the Bern.
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Here's the news: A compulsive liar has been lying, and the people who report about the compulsive liar are shameless, and apparently brainless rumor mongers trying to gain ratings to increase the profit they make selling commercial time. Both the compulsive liar, the networks, cable networks, and popular mass media are almost entirely owned by the same people who own the various politicians (including Trump). They present an apparent adversarial relationship to the clueless public who is continually brainwashed by their spin and lies 24/7. This fake dichotomy: liberal/conservative, pro-trump/anti-trump, religious/pragmatic, up/down, right/wrong, true/false is continually infused into the collective awareness, in order to keep them divided and in conflict, so that a hand full of megalomaniac auto-compulsive psychopaths and their deviant sycophant enablers (including police and military that are willing to violate the rights of private citizens) can maintain the stranglehold they have over the wealth and destiny of humanity. And you all fall for it continually -- continually. . . . even the smart ass critics among you are deluded by the human nervous systems natural tendency to divide everything into two opposing vectors, simply because the nervous system itself operates on opposing charges we have designated as positive and negative in the ionic sphere. The reality is that almost no one has anything outside of the magic circle of these dichotomies to say. Not that I expect anything objective (outside of the scientific disciplines and even that is stretching it) out of humanity at this point, but you should at least know were you stand, if you are capable of that. You stand firmly on the shores of delusions made real by acts they inspire.
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The biggest single factor in climate change is the generation of greenhouse gases.
Far more greenhouse gases are produced by animal agriculture than any other source (87% by animal ag as compared to 13% by all other sources, cars, planes, electric plants, etc, combined)
The most important thing you can do as an individual to address climate change is to stop buying the products of animal agriculture, such as meat, dairy products, leather goods, and furs.
If enough people do this, we will survive, if not, your grandchildren will be forced to determine whether to eat their babies to survive a few more weeks when crops fail globally.
Your choice, indulge your blind instinctive desires and rationalize them with self-centered mindless opinions, or leave future generations an earth worth living on.
Or you can just go on fruitlessly bitching about the injustice of things like Bezo's money and ignore the situation until it is beyond too late.
My personal bet is that the vast majority of you, even if convinced of the reality of the global climate situation will go on with your rapacious lifestyles unabated.
Even so, those are the facts. Now, are you a rational moral being, or a mad machine that really has no control over yourself?
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@GloryBeToGodForever Silly Glory: You do not know what your are talking about. You are going on hearsay from generations of gossip and intentional manipulation of a story. The absolutely worst way to determine if some story is true or not is to believe it first, and then look for evidence to support it. You need to get smarter, more objective and use the best evidence and reason to investigate the things you now take as true. They are not true. Things are actually far more wonderful than the hideous cosmology described in the work of fiction you believe in. . . . Stories that were a stratagem used by the power elite to confuse and control the masses.
Here is the simple truth of your situation (not that it will do you any good, but you should have the chance of hearing it)
Total objectivity, in the moment, about your own subjective processes, IS cosmic awareness.
I know you think you understand these words, but think again. Starting from where you are, it is nearly impossible to enact them. This is not a belief it is an activation. A belief is just a guess, no matter how your little heart goes pitter-patter upon hearing a story about how special you are to your imaginary friend. If you are really sincere in a desire to experience the divine, this is the direction, not some manipulated fiction that fills your head with nonsense and manipulates your emotions.
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@smacksman1 Kind of strange how hard it is to find specific info on usage in battle. To me personally, I expect it will be kind of hard to mask whether or not it is as effective as the statistics indicate when used in Ukraine. I expect it will be.
It's apparently been around in an ever evolving form since the late nineties. According to Wikipedia the program started in 92 and the first big batch was delivered in 97.
I'm glad you asked this question, because I knew it had been deployed but no real details. Someone told me they had seen a lot of early Excaliburs fail to explode but it could have just been bull, or a Russian bot-brain.
What we do seem sure of is that their have been loads of development and variation. When DARPA really get behind a tech, nobody does it better.
So we know that 690 Ex shells have been fired in theater. In Afghanistan. I had thought Iraq and possibly elsewhere, but I was probably wrong about Iraq, and if it was use in battle elsewhere I can't find it.
It was first used in battle in Afghanistan in 2008. Apparently mostly used to kill Taliban that attacked isolated outposts.
Apparently it works so well that commanders frequently called in fire with only a fifty meter distance between themselves and the enemy, with devastating effect. We are talking one shell to end an attack by fifty or so bad guys.
That is quite a different scenario since the Taliban, didn't really have artillery of effect. But it seems to me that this anti-artillery roll is more or less what the Ex was made for. I mean, it can hit moving targets on the first try. And the USA and allied countries have loads of them. They are not going to run out, by just destroying all the Russian artillery and tanks, they probably have enough to do that several time.
Of course, like some have pointed out, the problem is not going to be Russian artillery, but air to ground and high tech guided missiles. I have already made my comments on that, being a losing propositioning for the Russians, who are estimated to have already used the bulk of their missiles blowing up apartment buildings and theaters and hospitals. I guess we will see how good the German medium range anti-aircraft armor is, and eventually how good the Israeli Iron Dome system is.
I would not want to be near Russian Artillery when the German and Dutch donated German self-propelled howitzers show up, and the American and Canadian towed guns can network and do exactly the same things, less parts, less to go wrong.
It the Russians don't have some form of total air superiority by then they are basically screwed.
I would love to see a first use of the Norwegian ram-jet shell during this conflict. What an awesome ordinance for the free world, and Norway may be one of the best of the west, even though it is kind of east.
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The USA is not a democracy. It was never intended to be a democracy by the founders. It is a constitutional republic, which is a form of government designed to present the illusion of democracy to the populace while keeping real power and wealth in the hands of a few families and power elite plutocrats.
This may or may not be a good thing.
A real direct democracy, which is only evident in a few regions of Switzerland and nowhere else in the world, or history, would be a catastrophe in a culture which is most typified by it's public information being basically one or another narrative that are actually partisan webs of lies, as are evident in all our mass media venues.
You cannot have an effective democracy when there are no controls on the dissemination of disinformation and false narratives, by corporations chasing advertising revenues and scoundrels seeking power.
To think this will ever amount to anything other than the hodgepodge of insanity that is our public forum of debate is itself insane. It's time to grow up and wrest the sinews of our culture from the vision-less power seekers who control it. Human culture must evolve to propel humanity into it's possible golden destiny on earth and among the stars.
It is time to seriously move toward a culture that is a true meritocracy, a neoConfusian techno-meritocracy where there are government upgrades and not elections. Time to give up the old paradigms which are based on war and campaigns, deceit, and the scum rising to the top.
We have the technology and science to design a system that can truly determine the best candidates for positions of collective responsibility, by extreme and unbiased vetting, background checks, psychological tests, judgement evaluations by performance in intelligence tests and performance in virtual scenarios, evaluation of past performance, sophistication of problem solving abilities and other verifiable objective methods rather than the standards now in use, (sex appeal, appearance, psychopathic tendencies, the ability to lie convincingly, what family you were born into, the animal lust to pursue power and how much you promise to steal for or from the one percent.)
Also there must be consequences for the dissemination of disinformation and conspiracy fantasies in mass media. I suggest caning and banishment after the confiscation of all wealth.
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@Theserjtankianfan Sure Ernie: debate is like when I say that this video is a conversation about nothing. Then you say, it's not about nothing, it's about Marxism and the archetypal forces that shape our cultures by two highly esteemed pop intellectuals: or something like that.
Then I have to decide if: since you did not understand what my initial comment signified, and by your own comment it is obvious that you, like most everyone has only ever experienced the thought-centric-mind and the feelings that give rise to it's conceptions as your identity, if it would not just be a study in futility to explain to you why this conversation is about nothing but hormones and hot air, and why the apparently significant concepts that are discussed are: firstly all second-hand thoughts that have been elucidated many times before and secondly are actually about nothing of any real substance, import, or enlightening potential, and can only lead to more and more impotent and associative wool gathering no matter of what apparent sophistication. I feel that no matter what course I choose, you would never actually be able to see how silly these men and those who take such dialogues seriously actually are.
You may now prove my assumptions correct.
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Makes perfect political sense to not include Tesla in the EV meeting.
Tesla is only the number one selling EV.
Tesla is only the most American car in production, that is sold in America.
Tesla only makes an EV that is a half dozen years ahead of the closest competitor.
Tesla is only the company with the only viable charging network.
Tesla is only the most ethical company in the entire auto world.
Tesla only has, not only the number one selling EV but what will be without a doubt the number one selling car in the world.
Tesla is only the actual reason that any other auto company is now going electric.
Tesla only builds the safest autos to be in: in a crash.
Tesla is so far beyond Biden's concept of what the future will look like, that he doesn't deserve to be in the same reality, let alone sit at the table with Tesla.
Tesla is only the car company with the highest degree of owner satisfaction.
Tesla only offers a car that is faster than any other production auto no matter the price, and can still can carry four adults and their golf clubs and full overnight gear while doing it.
The media and the companies that would have rather had you die in a wreck because it was cheaper, until Nader forced them to adopt seat belts and collapsing steering columns, have been looking for a way to overcome Tesla, because it is so obviously superior in product and production than the dinosaur auto companies -- and it doesn't pay the crime family-like commercial media the advertising vig that the other car companies depend on to sell you dreams.
Dreams that will not even approach the reality that is living right now in Tesla products and production methods.
Buttegieg drives a Tesla, but with McCluen like rear-view mirror vision, leads us onward into the fog. And it's not even his rear-view mirror that he is looking through. It's the one lent to him by the dino-auto industry. The one that says "LIMITED VISION: objects are more crudely engineered than they appear in the ads".
No unions at Tesla, Musk wants the workers to own Tesla. That's how it should be done.
And besides that slimy scumbag head of the dept of trans, Pete Butt looks like Mickey Mouse: all he needs are two large white gloves and some ears . . . it's him! . . . it's Mickey Mouse!
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@donHooligan lol China did great work in Tibet too, if you disregard the Tibetans. In case you don't get it, outside of a few anomalous examples, all governments suck. The more power they have the more they tend to suck. Why? because humans everywhere cannot be trusted with power. Is the average American better somehow morally than the average Russian, or Chinese citizen or inhabitant of the DRC -- no they are all basically the same, the same crooks, the same moral people, the same vices and weaknesses, the same hopes for a better life for themselves and their families. Do very rich people suck, many do, some don't, same as the guys at your corner taproom, but with more intense repercussions. Does democracy exist anywhere -- nope, not outside of a few areas in Switzerland. Do those with advantages due to wealth or power take advantage of their advantages, sure, but it's easy to believe you would be different yourself without really having that possibility.
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There isn't. They just cannot stand anything that contradicts their contorted and inaccurate narrative. I just recommended that book to you, as a peek into the actual history as opposed to the fantasy that is believed by these various spokes people for the first American nations. This woman whom is speaking references this history as a series of massacres. I merely pointed out that although this is correct, most of the massacres were unbelievably brutal massacres of European families.
The massacres of native villages that occurred were a result of this propensity of the war bands to murder civilians in retribution for losses against and general inability to confront the US armed forces. It's not hard to find if you can distinguish between historic facts and the disinformation found at DN. Basically the First Nations are now presented as peace loving environmentalists. Which may be true for some of them now, but when you project that back into history it is a lie. They had no environmental awareness and one of the great extinction events followed the progress of the Asian invasive species of humans as they settled in the Americas. They were brutal to each other, practiced torture and many of them also practiced cannibalism routinely and produced some of the most insane and hideous cultures ever know to man, that were in continual hyper savage warfare among themselves, without developing any of the benefits of civilization such as writing and the wheel -- or much of anything else. I had a post deleted eight times yesterday that did not even detail most of these facts except for the note on the massacres and it was only a recounting of the actual facts.
But what is pushed as fact here on DN is the idea that all the evils that befell the First Nations was the doing of white Europeans. This was a stone age culture, do you really think that after the Americas was discovered by the rest of the world that it would be left alone by nations with a higher level of technology and culture? That has never happened anywhere on earth, and the same thing that happened to the native Americans happened to every group of primitives that came in contact with something like Rome or the Assyrian Empire. That's human life. The horse tribes of Europe are also gone, you probably never even heard of them. The problem is that losers never forget, and they romanticize about a golden past that never existed. Take the confederate south as a prime example.
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@Roguesta54 No doubt many of the cops in America will not tolerate any disrespect, and some of them are just dying for an excuse to shoot someone, but just with my knowledge of the various countries of the world, I would say that your sample is very constricted. Try the cops in Burma, or China, or Afghanistan, or Russia, North Korea, Turkey, Belarus, Mexico, Columbia, etc. At least the cops in the US are usually not the same people as the criminals, usually. Most of them like to push people around and don't like real work but those are the people the justices love because they pull that money into the system. It's a game to them, and people are just pieces in the game.
Also the fact that there are more guns owned by private citizens in the US than there are people, and cops do get shot here pretty regularly. Though it is far more dangerous to deliver for Amazon or be a roofer than to be a cop. And the roofers I know don't act like hysterical teenagers to be safer.
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Trumps supporters being mostly lower class and upper class and not much of an in-between illustrates the blinding flash of the obvious that Trump supporters are either multimillionares . . . or fools.
Not because to be poor, is to be a fool, but of course (I feel the need to spell this out here because you can never underestimate the comprehension of random people, but I am not implying an assumption that you personally need it spelled out) because to be poor and a Trump supporter is to be a fool, if you consider people who harm themselves to be foolish.
On the other hand, IF the world was actually structured and worked in the manner that most Trump supporters of low income believe it does, then their Trump support would make perfect sense. We are talking vectors here, the specifics are irrelevant.
In fact, one objective look at the so-called political systems, and their underpinning, that populate our planet should inform the observer that what is happening is just window dressing on barbarism, it's just a theater of the mind, a velvet glove on an iron fist.
I don't know of any system of government or rule that rises above the idiotic, or so it would seem, if the object of the system is to optimize, as much as is possible, all honorable aspects of human existence, and to curtail those commonly deemed as undesirable, the present systems of governance found on earth are archaic trash: just an excuse for the same old kleptocratic autocompulsive psychopaths, to further inflate their already vein-glorious miniminds in the vacuous reflections of the sycophants that surround and enable their insanity because of their own highly deviated and corrupted survival impulse.
They wish they were a real boy, but despite the world of suffering they create by trying to fill their truly vacuous lives with babbles of all types, real life eludes them, and always will.
Even ole' Socrates knew that a person that seeks power should never be trusted with it.
Human political culture is a joke. An eighth grade class could come up with a better system than the battered whore the banksters and one percent -- have afforded the world. It's a joke, a sin, and a wasted opportunity to evolve our culture into one that would nurture the greatness that humanity could be. But we ain't great, and we never have been, though for sure, an individual here and there, now and then has been -- great that is. Though to tell you the truth Alexander wasn't, and neither was his teacher Aristotle. Two utter failures that the world has adored for over two millennia. So wad ya gonna due -- aye?
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It's not just the radical right that is systemically insane regarding climate change. The prime example is how the nitwit left is treating Tesla. All these protests and thousands of people have done nothing to address the problem compared to Tesla. They are all "bla bla bla" and Tesla actually walks the walk, and what does it get? Back of the line and not even recognized for its enormous and continuing contributions to greenhouse gas abatement. Foaming at the mouth woke puddin' heads who hate Tesla because Musk is rich and showing a way to a golden future for mankind. Ludites who understand nothing of Tesla's breakthroughs and continuing campaign to bring hope of a future worthy of humanity. The appointment of Tesla haters like Cummings to positions that control the industry. Just envious small minds who think that marching in favor of political solutions is an effective action: political solutions that will never take place because the people who created the problem are in control of establishing the perception of a working solution. We have been marching for environmental protection since the sixties and the result is NOTHING. A president who sucks up to unions shops no matter how hopelessly behind the tech that Tesla has developed, who supports FORD (who manufactures their EVs in Mexico (thus the recent modification to the rebates that disregards where they are built, instead of Tesla, which builds cars with the most American parts and labor of ALL vehicles, and a gov. who fails to even recognize the real progress they have made. This last election is the first and last time I vote for a lesser of two evils, the democrats and republicans are both corrupt beyond reform, and need to put a gun in their collective mouths and pull the trigger so the rest of us can return to sanity.
The only real hope we have is if people like Musk demonstrate, and he has been demonstrating like hell, just how to make money cleaning up the mess that the petro economy has created. Elon Musk is now, since yesterday, the richest man in history, and he did it working for the good of the environment and the hope of a golden future for mankind and still the left and right imbeciles bitch about him and do everything they can politically to subvert his efforts. Wake the fu@k up.
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The biggest single factor in climate change is the generation of greenhouse
gases.
Far more greenhouse gases are produced by animal agriculture than any
other source (87% by animal ag as compared to 13% by all other sources,
cars, planes, electric plants, etc, combined)
The most important thing you can do as an individual to address climate
change is to stop buying the products of animal agriculture, such as
meat, dairy products, leather goods, and furs.
If enough people do this, we will survive, if not, your grandchildren
will be forced to determine whether to eat their babies to survive a few
more weeks when crops fail globally.
Your choice, indulge your blind instinctive desires and rationalize them
with self-centered mindless opinions, or leave future generations an
earth worth living on.
Or you can just go on fruitlessly bitching about the injustice of things
like Bezo's money and ignore the situation until it is beyond too late.
My personal bet is that the vast majority of you, even if convinced of
the reality of the global climate situation will go on with your
rapacious lifestyles unabated.
Even so, those are the facts. Now, are you a rational moral being, or a
mad machine that really has no control over yourself?
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I'll save you the time of watching this, I didn't and don't need to. If you think your brain is the so-called conscious associative mind. It is possible to upload it, because what you think of as you, or "I" is completely mechanical. I know you cannot see this, your not supposed to be able to for your own good (in most cases). Your subjective experience is not a truly conscious experience. Your subjective experience is determined not by what you consider to be you, or your consciousness (consciousness is an illusion just as runningness would be an illusion for a runner who is sitting) but by the metabolic substrate in which your subjective experience takes place. This has been demonstrated that "consciousness" is the last to know about events that your unconscious aspects have already reacted to. So yes the mechanical illusion you refer to as the mind could be simulated and uploaded, but it would be a shadow of what a person really is, a shadow of a shadow really, and without the anchoring in reality provided by a limbic system and other essential aspects of your animal nature it would be quite insane in short order. Well actually it would not even be authentically insane, just an approximation of a mechanism that is not conscious as you believe it to be because your are entirely identified with it, but without the belief in its indispensable illusion of identity. Sorry if that doesn't make sense to you. If it doesn't it is because you are entirely identified with the quite mechanical dynamics of the thought-centric-mind and have never see it's/your true nature.
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News flash: CNN, MSNBC, and the usual suspects report:. . . In the primary
race between Sanders and Buttigieg, Pete came in second over all, while
Sanders came in next to last.
Democracy and the so called representative democracy, democratic republic or constitutional republic are very different things.
They are forms of democracy. In most cases minus the democracy part. When people blithely state that we live in a democracy it is incorrect and misleading, like most of the paradigms that the public is continually bombarded with via the corporate news.
A republic is just a way for the plutocrats to stay in power and still have people think they are in a participatory democracy. The only democracy in US government is is that of congress, and they are 98% owned by the power-elite that decide who will run and fund their reelection campaigns with the legalized bribes of their campaign contributions.
There is representation, but not for you and me. We live in a farce. Are you not paying attention? Do you think that this cheating is something new? Your "representatives" are not there to represent you, they are there for the most part to make sure that the voices of the people never get heard, and if they get heard to never be acted upon. Or if they are once in a blue moon forced by popular uprising to act for the people, soon as the masses disperse they will dismember the body that threatened their power one discontent at a time, jailed, disappeared, or simply smeared and ignored by the corporate media. Have you not been present? Look around. . . .
Real democracy, true democracy exists nowhere on earth other than present day Switzerland and never has (that I am aware of). Representative democracy is a convoluted fraudulent conception. Democracy is something that we are continually told we have, which we do not.
We have democracy in the same sense that the slaves, women, citizens without land, and foreigners had a democracy in the golden age of Athens. Only they knew that they did not have a vote or any real participation in the government. Most Americans do not know that.
It should be obvious to anybody with the slightest ability to perceive what is actually going on that this is a conceptual illusion that is used to mislead and quell the disenfranchised mob. Bring on the super-delegates, the Iowa national delegate formula, the electoral collage, the PACz and Citizens United -- a democracy would not abide these contaminants, or entertain their adoption for even a moment.
A democracy and the state we live in are two very different things. In a democracy the one with the most votes is not the loser like in the USA. The courts have decided that even determination of who will be the candidates, such as occurs in the legendary smoke filled rooms of the DNC and RNC has no legal obligation to be fair or democratic in our two party system. . . . ???????
We live in a kleptocracy with a democratic shroud over it, and most people, like almost all people, do not understand how their rights and money are being stolen from them by corporate pilferage and plunder. In fact our present government is functionally a cryptofascist kleptocracy in which all real power, control of the men with guns and uniforms, the state, and the economy is held by a small group of lying psychopaths. Like Robert Mercer,, the Koch brother, Bezos and the mob of banksters that suck up the wealth of the nation like vampires and offer nothing but bullshit and corruption in return.
And you CNN, are a big part of it. In fact people will come to recognize that you are a key member of the new axis of evil. FaceBook -- Buttigieg -- CNN
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The corporate news is still trying to black-out Bernie. Bernie, and
Tulsi are the only candidates with any integrity, something the networks
and cable news despises.
Bernie understands that the lynch-pin of all the legalized corruption in our constitutional republic is campaign finance.
What now passes for "business as usual" was not long ago a criminal act.
But many progressives do not understand this. They are bored by the
subject but excited by all kinds of meaningless PC rhetoric.
While I was at a Nader rally in Santa Cruz back during his 2000 run, he
said he had time for one more question. I yelled out "Campaign
finance!" When he indicated that this was the
subject he would address there was an audible groan from this most progressive crowd
in America's most leftest town, .
I guess most people never consider the fact that if Nader had won, we
would have never attacked Iraq and the 2008 great recession (where-in
the same people who caused it were put in charge of fixing it and
managed to steal trillions in public funds for themselves and the
institutions they hid their criminal activities behind) would never have
occurred.
And I would like to remind everyone that the criminals behind this, who
had bribed the legislative branch with campaign contributions, were also
the people who changed the laws to allow this disastrous turn of our
republic. Which was unequaled until the retrograde idiot section of the
supreme court passed Citizens United and other decisions of a
antiAmerican nature that benefited the one-percent and their
brain-washed right-wing idiot minions.
Sorry if this comment went on for longer than a Twitter-brain can attend
to. But if you notice, the comments that always get the most likes are
always the most obvious and usually the most knee-jerk in nature.
Never believe the "first-story": whether given by the government, the
corporate news, the republocrats, or your own reactionary quite
mechanical mind
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@nathasyapramudita6312 Each generation brings the enthusiasm of life not yet jaded by the actual fact that the evolution of society moves at a snails pace compared to the possibility of conscious evolution possible for some individuals. I always admire those who can bring the insights of their own awareness to concrete fruition as regards human culture. Despite this:
In my view the belief that people choose their opinions based on self-aware choice is an illusion. Rather they merely entertain the thoughts that arise automatically as a result of feelings that result from a combination of factors both interpersonal and metabolic. They generally refer to this completely automatic process as "I" and because of this are captive of the further rationalizations that also arise automatically in their "mind" which they refer to as "my thoughts", "my beliefs". "my opinions", "my attitude", etc.
In this sense a documentary like this is like a collective rationalization.
I am about halfway through viewing it. So far no mention of W's total ineptitude/exploitation of a crisis for political/personal gain (take you pick), no mention of the Taliban having been breed in Saudi sponsored madrassas, no mention that the Northern Alliance were drug dealers, no mention of the fleecing of the public by various contractors for dubious and ill-considered ends and means, etc. etc.
So, as the blind man said, "We shall see. , , ,"
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Face it Jimmy: you can get as creatively angry as you want. I'm sure it is somewhat satisfying or at least mollifying. But Jimmy, come on, you are not a violent cretin that is basically a psychopath in a thousand dollar suit willing to go to any means to preserve their wealth and privilege -- so -- your protestations are ultimately futile unless you can stimulate a movement that can overcome the propensity of those you find so egregious (and who wouldn't find them so) to ultimately back up their desires by ordering about men with guns, who are only doing their duty? Yeh, that duty. . . . the one that doesn't look a graft horse in the mouth? Hey, you better respect the man-with-the-gun's authority, or they can get very testy, very quickly. Oh, sorry, you are actually in no to little danger. Mitch says, what he and Trump says: goes. He said he's sure you will figure it all out in retrospect.
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You forgot to mention the biggest cartel: the bankers who wash the money like HSBC and company.
All it would take to put them all out of business is for the US gov to wise up, look at the real data from other countries and decriminalize all drugs and end the monopoly they have given to the first criminal billionaires: whom they have created.
Opioids should be given to addicts for free in a clinical setting, as much as they want, along with admissions to therapy if they desire it. Then believe it or not, the continual crime to support habits will end and they will be able to hold jobs. That's what happened in Switzerland.
Drugs like pot, mushrooms, peyote (mescaline) LSD molly etc. should be legal for anyone over twenty one and otherwise unregulated.
Truly dangerous drugs like meth, crack, cocaine, alcohol, and tobacco, should require a license to use and a sign off of any medicare/cade benefits, and free ambulance or emergency room services.
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It's really very simple. If you are the kind of person who likes to push other people around, you become a cop so you don't have to pay the natural consequences of your criminal behavior.
I am in my seventies. I have never needed a cop for any reason during my entire life. Over my life I have gotten about five traffic violations that were complete lies, and the cops lied in court, and the magistrate knew they were lying, and the cops knew they were lying, and I knew they were lying, but we proceeded as if that were not the case.
Back in the sixties I had the misfortune of living in a dorm that was inhabited by the son of a local chief of police in Allentown PA, a famous chief of police who had a police academy named after him. I guess he got his son a part time job as a paid informant. This scumbag merely turned in heroin and made up times and places and said that about a half dozen students sold it to him.
Months after the alleged event we were rounded up and arrested purely on the lies this scumbag told. I imagine most were pot smokers, I was. So they charged us with sale and possession of heroin and marijuana, which I had never even seen in my lifetime, nor did I know anyone who had ever used heroin. And they got everyone to plead guilty to the sale and possession of pot in order for them to drop the heroin charges. I never smoked pot in front of this scumbag, let alone sold it to him. Everyone knew he was a narc.
But faced with the prospect of the possibility of twenty years in prison or a few months in county jail, I think anyone would have been coerced into pleading guilty to a crime they didn't commit.
So my life was basically thrown off the rails so this dickhead could advance in his career. And that was just a few kids who were damaged and alienated from the law in our teens, he went on to do this over and over and never to this day, has anything happened to him. And this happens every day, every hour, all over the country. And of course you get the "oh, yeah sure your innocent, they all say that." And if you are naive enough to think this is a fluke or exception you have just been lucky.
And since the sixties the power of an individual cop has grown exponentially. They can literally get away with murder and usually do. I was kind of amazed when I got to prison to find that not everyone was an innocent victim, but many of them were. And we are supposed to have respect for the law?
Drug laws are a scam, that have nothing to do with real crime. It's business, money for the cops, and keeping recreational molecules illegal has created criminal billionaires and supports organizations that are actually violent and deadly and a source of corruption on an unimaginable scale.
If you are unaware of it: people have used various recreational molecules for hundreds of thousands of years, even animals use them. Yet the drugs that are legal, the main one being alcohol, are extremely toxic to every cell in your body. Alcohol is actually more harmful than heroin if the criminality of it is not considered.
The war on drugs does not work, it has never worked, and it will never work, it's all just bullshit. In China were your family has to pay for the bullet that they murder you with if your are arrested for selling drugs people still sell drugs, and use them. This whole thing is evil from top to bottom. Not supernatural evil, or other imaginary ideas, but real evil: the domination of someone who does not wish to be dominated -- that's what evil is.
Unfortunately too many people in the police are evil, and stupid, and blind to the fact of what they really are. They think they are fucken heroes in their twisted minds, and yes some few of them are, but mostly just people who do not really want to work. And people wonder why others hate the police. Well get a clue.
Criminalization of alcohol created the first criminal millionaires, and the US drug laws have created the first criminal billionaires. All plants should be legal in their natural form. I personally no longer use recreational molecules of any kind, not alcohol, not caffeine, not refined sugar, nor any of the demonized molecules. If they were totally legal I still wouldn't use any, with the possible exception of peyote once a decade or so, but I believe that should be my decision and not some politician who has no idea at all of what things are.
In PA if you are in the medical marijuana program you cannot own a firearm. But if you are an alcoholic, with a permit you can carry your concealed weapon into a bar. These "leaders" as so stupid it make you want to scream. Where is the evidence? There is loads of evidence that alcohol makes some people more prone to violence and impulsive acts. A friend of mine's son was murdered outside of a bar where he got into a argument with a legally armed drunk. Where is the evidence that marijuana use leads to violence? There isn't any. In fact quite the opposite.
We are living in a culture ruled by imbeciles, and an unlikely proportion of them are high functioning psychopaths -- that's the fact. The leaders ARE the problem. Look at the present opioid problem, anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that it just happened to start at the same time that the brilliant leaders made it near impossible for may people to get pain meds from their doctor. It's all nonsense.
In Switzerland they solved the drug problem by giving addicts free pharmaceutical drugs, as much as they want, in a clinical setting, with counseling and a caring therapeutic setting. Guess what. The vast majority of the crimes that were being committed to support the criminal cost of opioid addiction dried up, and most of these people were able to reenter legit society and hold down a job. In Portland they just decriminalized drugs, without support, without the necessary care and offers of therapy and guess what? It didn't work. Who could have guessed that would happen?
Our country is run by blockheads and high functioning psychopaths -- that is the only reasonable explanation for what is going on. Doing the same stupid things that didn't work over and over, Like war, drug criminalization is a scam.
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@Dutchman294 There are a number of reasons for that. Too many to go into here. Suggest Tesla Daily, Electrified, or Best in Tesla for factual info regarding this. They are really the only Tesla centric YouTube channels worth following. Some other are half decent, but a ghastly number are nothing but click bait fantasies.
Since beginning of the year, only Tesla, and Porsche, sales have not gone down. Tesla sales have increased dramatically, Porsche's just a little bit, Ford down eight percent, which is good compared to most OEMs.
The main reason Tesla is valued so high is the potential for future earnings. Musk says FSD will be here this year -- his detractors say three decades or never.
If FSD is finally approved for public use, when it is an order of magnitude safer than the average driver, many people fail to be able to visualize the effects this will have on civilization. We are talking about steam engine level disruption. Many think that other companies are well on the road to being able to compete in this arena. They are not even close.
Tesla may well be the most advanced company developing real-world AI. And believe me, no matter how good your imagination is, you cannot imagine the developments that will flow from this.
There are loads of reasons that Tesla is valued so high. Most of which, like the powerpack installations for electric utilities and the teslabot are usually not even considered. There is no other company on earth like Tesla, with the possible exception of SpaceX, and yet the wall street elves think they can value it on outdated metrics that only apply to outdated companies like GM, BMW, and Toyota. VW, Ford, and Hyundai still have a chance to survive into the Tesla dominated age of mostly Chinese and Mexican manufactured EVs with various European and American monikers, as is now the case for many ICE cars, made in China/Mexico but GM, Ford or other misleading branding.
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Entering WW1 was the stupidest thing that the USA ever did. When Russia collapsed and the revolutionaries signed a treaty with the Central Powers it freed up a million German soldiers to move to the western front.
And admit it or not the soviets were now backing Germany.
When this happened if the USA had not entered the war due to the subconscious manipulation of the American public via Edward Bernays Council on Foreign Relations, a public that was almost totally against the war became a public that cried for vengeance, even hung a few German Americans in the streets.
If the USA had not entered the war at that point the Central Powers would have won.
Had we stayed out of it, there would have been no Hitler, no WW2, no vast genocides of Jews, the disabled, gypsies, and various other scapegoat groups, no Soviet superpower, and no loss of over a hundred thousand American boys in a war the nation really had no stake in. AND the end game would have been more or less what we have in Europe today. (Remember the Germany of the time was not a Nazi Nation run by a madman but a constitutional monarchy in which political parties were limited to the legislative arena. And there is much speculation that the real reason for the insane mobilization that took place was the work on the construction of a German railroad from Central Europe into the oil fields of the Middle East, which the British controlled.
On the other hand there are those Americans who benefited greatly from the war at the time. By the end of 1918, American factories had produced 3.5 million rifles, 20 million artillery rounds, 633 million pounds of smokeless gunpowder, 376 million pounds of high explosives, 21,000 airplane engines, and large amounts of poison gas.
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There is your problem. Tesla is twenty years ahead of the competition in technology of EVs. You can only buy a used Tesla at a dealership. People are starting to get it when they learn about the magnitude of the difference in the experience of owning a Tesla Vs everyone else. Safest car, most American cars, highest owner loyalty, highest owner satisfaction, most efficient, continual improvement after the sale via OTA updates, rave performance reviews for latest performance and track models that rival and usually beat cars costing twice as much, and of course the worlds best selling car model -- all without ads, because the owners are the best ad. Of course the media hates the idea that Tesla does not spend billions on ads each year like GM (2.2billion last year) and company, so the news is usually slanted to try to force them to pay the ad vig to defend themselves from the continual misrepresentation by the media. Before you buy an EV, test drive a Tesla. Several of the current models cost less than the average new car, and there is no comparison. And of course you also get access to all of the superchargers, the only viable network in America.
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@maskedmarvyl4774 His stock option argument weak?
If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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There is a percentage of people who will actually make their buying decisions based on facts. However the majority of people, especially in the USA, do not use facts and stats to determine what they will purchase.
We have known this since before WW1 when Edward Bernays used his uncle Sigmund Freud's discoveries about unconscious motivations to begin selling government policies and consumer goods to the general public with fantastic, almost unbelievable success.
Even many Tesla owners were motivated, not by facts, but by emotions they have about Elon, and his stated purpose of prolonging human existence in the face of the inevitable extinction level event. These people, those who are in sympathy with Elon, and those who use facts to make purchase decisions will buy from Tesla, unless something drastic changes. However the majority of people who make their purchase decisions based on unconscious motivations and desires may well not.
If you want to sell to these people, you vastly increase your chances by the kind of apparently irrelevant ads like the Polestar ad you reviewed here. The ad basically said nothing except, "We are not Elon Musk." However it is of note that after this ad, while all EV, and EV related stocks went south, Gores Guggenheim, Inc. stock moved from $10 to $13 per share and settles at around $12.25 for the week. About a 22% increase. As you know Gores Guggenheim, Inc. is the company that will merge with Polestar this spring. So you can buy stock in PoleStar right now by buying Gores Guggenheim as you reported weeks ago. I would say the ad was very successful, it increased the companies value by more than twenty percent, as nothing new happened during this time but the SB ad.
If you really don't think that emotionally based advertising works you should take a look at the wonderful documentary The Century of the Self, which will explain in a most entertaining manner just what is really going on and how modern advertising and mass motivation uses the psychological weaknesses in people to sell them stuff they don't need or really even want. Like entering WW 1 for instance. Here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04&t=1356s
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If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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It's the people not the system Mat.
If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies.
The facts:
The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department.
The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla.
The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually.
Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it.
That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months.
An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months.
She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79.
On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79.
Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla.
Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1.
Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock.
On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19.
Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla.
On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock.
On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla.
Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla.
. . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob.
On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85.
She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla.
On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock.
Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96.
She became a millionaire working as a receptionist.
Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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