Comments by "mpol" (@mpol701) on "Ringway Manchester" channel.

  1. It's my UFO I'm from the planet zog that's how I know officer
    6
  2. That's incorrect u can't watch any TV live be it cnn or other foreign tv, on tv of a device it means sky, BT, Virgin and freesat, freeview need the licence, live TV broadcast on YouTube, live events on Netflix amazon, itvx and similar ie all classed as live broadcast
    6
  3. There's lots and lots to listen to in uk and many hobbyist reporting freqs, yes dmr is busy but in a recent Peterborough trip by a enthusiast 100 freqs or 96 or so dmr, 2 only were enc rest were ni Ely heard on uniden scanners, me in north herts probably 50 per cent dmr, analogue only glaxo stevenage enc and intelligence training 153, 149 mhz dmr net
    6
  4. Just had tvl letter 3 data ago asking me if I still class as unlicensed and did it online, normally I call, online gets a bit more confusing and kept making errors, with them saying I need licence, then I saw where I was going wrong, and made my answes correct for no licence needed Then after that I made an error aboiut no one living at this address, again eventually got it right and tvl later confirmed my no licence status and number again
    5
  5.  @ThePsiclone  lol
    4
  6. Your wrong it's illegal to listen to any messages not intended for u, a pilot with radio. Licence, listening to airways at home would still be illegal, while he on plane and directed to that freq for the navigation of his flight he's legal
    4
  7. Sold them all place, I use to sell them air airshow, and we put there coms on speakers, they are receivers not same as a transceiver
    4
  8. Fire In uk still use uhf on scene radios dmr and analog
    3
  9. Metradio was great I could program up talk groups of special use channels like palaces, royal protection, mod police, diplomatic police etc
    3
  10. That was a Motorola type 2 and I had a full talk group list sent to me so scanner was programed with best talk groups and tagged up and it operated with uhf standard non trunked as well and radios had Heathrow 455 mhz, bank of England convoy 456.4 and divisional put if London border 452 mhz patriot house of Parliament 452.4 plus stadiums on 450 mhz
    3
  11. It is but seriously it's generally not been an issue, even when we had police comms, charges were very few and far between I can safely say I was prob the most arrested in uk during those days between 1985 and 2009 over 10 arrests, but I covered royal and military communications, so was a bigger a risk, some cases dropped, sone fined, sone lost 500 ponds worth of equipment confiscated at a time but it didn't stop me Mainly I knew most police in Royal protection, special branch knew me and had no issues with me
    3
  12. It never bothered most of us when police could be heard and doesn't bother lost of us now, at raf fairford usaf base yesterday many were standing there listening to the at comms of u2 and b52 movements as they do at raf, usaf bases across uk and civil airfield and we walk around openly at airshows as well, no one really cares about the laws these cases were extremely rare, though I am probably the most arrested 10 times maybe more, sone I technically won but still lost 4 radios on average each case, others fined, and I think 3 dropped can't recall fully All mine were under metropolitan Police I think in London and on royal and governments, military frequencies
    3
  13. With close call on my unidens I've found aircraft at Duxford with stuck mic on the ground, affecting air display freq or afis, so while not deliberate it's interference, and finding I can then report it to people on the airfield saying the stuck mic aircraft is
    3
  14.  @localbod  but seems tvl are now updating non licensed adress every year not 2 years as previous, not a major issue but online is a pain at times I prefer to call them but my letter has arrived on a, Saturday so I went online and made at first mistakes
    3
  15. Actually yes seems he said live streams not broadcast tv live, yes so ringway live, bbb, auditors, news citizen journalism live etc are no licence, as indeed news print media who do cover majors things live at times, but an actual tv broadcaster showing stuff from there studio at sane time, ok maybe a few seconds differance but I'd classed live TV broadcast links, and no matter where from, a licence neded Of course u can just say what you want of say nothing and take chances, but I honest don't watch watch live TV broadcast on any device
    3
  16. Because there wasn't anything reliable in those days
    3
  17. Not same in uk, radio broadcast u don't neeed licence and we can have tv but it's watching live TV that means we need licence and I don't so don't have a licence
    3
  18.  @arthurtwoshedsjackson6266  yes 138.10625 Wass one I think
    3
  19. Lol I still don't get a piece saying I was listening to royal communications when queen was in stornoway, if that was ref to me I'm not sure, but all I can think of Is I may of put up on my yahoo group the queen's flight notam information for a visit to stornoway
    2
  20. But yes I've listened to. Lots oc royal escort movement communication over those years and royal protection and special branch though wary of me at times, never had any major issues with me, bbc on talking to another in my group I'd exposed as a fantasist well known, and bbc then rest of media fell in and added more and more But I had call from special branch telling me they had no issues they needed to see me aboand my local police even sent an officer to police the area because media were everywhere not once there did even they want to speak to me and I had called them as well
    2
  21. Bbc had me on listening to royal movements yes but not stornoway
    2
  22. There was no such requirement to log scanner owner details, tandy asked for details but purely for there own magazines and marketing
    2
  23. At sane time uhf home office and 147 mhz sibgle tactical freqs and crime squads 155 mhz were also still in use, some masc by then on 55 but many crime squad ops I heard oanalogue as well My thing was royal protection so I focussed on big events or any royal events
    2
  24. By 2010 it was then over for analogue in met area
    2
  25. They had 168 mhz singles and repeaters as well there
    2
  26. Still active, airshows, providing freq info for a military and civil air group book, listening to dmr, fire handhelds, farms, air military and civil and commercial pmr analogue and dnr, nexedge etc but listening not much else
    2
  27. We use to publish these in uk scanning directory again many in use today though a new band at 425 mhz opened up, this week's uk bike ride 425.39375 91.5 ctcss btw heard for 100 hundred plus like as aircraft at fl260, London marathon bbc using 468 mhz from same aircraft hired
    2
  28. Geoff is correct as long as you don't use tv, or tablet, pc, phone to watch live broadcast tv then you can be unlicensed
    2
  29. Same here upgrade key to sds200 sds 100 and so far nothing on the slotted in between dpmr allocations, channels lots using the additional 8 freqs analogue often dcs 026
    2
  30.  @6643bear  I had bearcats and a, radio shack scanner on metradio, and yes had mod police talk groups, royal protection as, well, naughty stuff
    2
  31. Those old days upto 2010 or so befor everything dead on all analogue met freqs,
    2
  32. We had a big fire recently near me had 5 channels in use mix of dmr and analogue
    2
  33. @UKRO404  lol yes
    2
  34. It's illegal but there's loads of scanner and short wave listeners on uk it's a popular hobby we don't get arrested now
    2
  35. We publish frequencies, callsign and so on as well and rarely has anyone been in trouble fof that either, in fa t now there's air and marine on YouTube and ofcom don't seem to care
    2
  36. So yes illegal to interfere but listen, it's just officials don't really care we can listrn and publish radio freqs mostly, very few are done for listening to anything
    2
  37. @RingwayManchester  but it's generally ignored by the ofcom of caa or even local, airfields, military bases scanners everywhere, freqs published as well
    2
  38.  @RingwayManchester  remember younger Luton airport sitting in cafe near taxi way, 30 plus scanners and air and radios sitting on the tables all blaring away
    2
  39. Thrso to listen to local cctv nets, military and civil air, marine, farms commercial pmr security and other pmr systems, I put to lots and listed police, ambulance airwaves but fire uhf handheld are still able to listen to, both digital and analogue
    2
  40. They don't have to speak English on there hf or any ops channel, in past they used vhf 134.000 ait to air as well but hf back to Russian base, English is for Air traffic control
    2
  41. Yes 457 mhz use analogue and dmr ch1 to 8 are analogue, then sane freqs analogue ch9 upwards, recent large fire near me had 5 in use even got, chief and deputy are 5 minutes from scene on command ch
    2
  42. 146 to 156 mhz where the main set vhf freqs moved from 100 mhz to base and inputs, most counties had a systems, but a few had fm like starnet
    2
  43. The starnet was vhf trunked but in Scotland and other areas there were other fm systems
    2
  44. Supposed to be every 2 years updated, I updated them February this year and have a physical non license, so odd they asked so soon again but all done
    2
  45. @dieseldragon6756  yes looks like they've changed from 2 years,but they stated December 2025
    2
  46. But u can stand at a military airbase and never have anyone come up, or civil fields etc stand there with 5 scanners on full blast like I did at Duxford, Eastbourne and Farnborough on fire, security adnin dmr and ctcss dcs freqs no one cares, I. Disabled area Duxford have guy on radio uhf few meters from me and my scanner blasting out his channel ok don't recommend that as a rule they know me there so that probably helps
    2
  47.  @andrewcoupe9528  what do you mean?
    2
  48. These are all years ago
    2
  49. Some get thrown out I've had that as mentioned befire and radio had special branch and royal protection, Whitehall mod police, London army barracks, command freqs us embassy comms and more, don't think they ever had them checked But judge threw it out got my radios back and officer was told off Wimbledon 2009 under terrorism act, even though they knew me but then downgraded to wt act, 6 months later and with my social worker all dropped radios given back Another time my dad contacted cps over a case and again cps dropped the case
    2
  50. But other times I've stood at Buckingham Palace while police officer tricked me, he said men in lack want to speak to me, as seen on cctv, as said well known and was on special branch watcher lists I stood there ages he hadn't held me but I judt stood there, and said when are they coming, he said my name and said only joking
    2
  51. Nobody cares about the listening on atc military or civil. Or even commercial pmr business radio in uk
    2
  52. U can publish freqs as well quite happily I've published in old days royal protection and other special freqs as well as airband military civil and lots more never had any bother from authorities
    2
  53. They don't care I don't think, stuff on YouTube Glasgow life and also another wiyh solent vts for marine movement and ofcom of users don't seem to care, yes if they object it will be acted on by ofcom but if they don't then it's nit an issue
    2
  54. We sold them at airshows as well and broadcast via larger speakers, and out a freq list up on sales unit
    2
  55. Ch75vwss 452.375
    2
  56. That's crap I have 20 scanners all operating when my housing association come to see me for any reason
    1
  57. Sadly very limited and often inaccurate
    1
  58. Think u mean 455 not 445
    1
  59. Hi Lewis love your stuff and remember we agreed not to do a piece on me i want quiet life nowadays
    1
  60. Air, marine and emergency services of course as well
    1
  61. Well we can listen I often use the us scanner apps great fun
    1
  62. Presume your usa, in uk don't recall anyone special on 166.825
    1
  63. 142 isn't allocated to American airforce I uk it's an 8nteenational military band that use 137 to 160 mhz am, raf, usaf, usafe, Belgian, French, Italian well many differant air forces use
    1
  64. Yes using the prime minister escort radio callsign cheeky bugger I am. Lol
    1
  65. If i was really pretentious I'd go or purple 1, the monarchs callsign, Charlie was purple 45, when Prince, 45 alphathe advance team, 45 echo the escort, and even 45 train, a, e and t
    1
  66. We never had any issue publishing
    1
  67. I mean legal. Issues from police or RCA
    1
  68. And now ofcom publish most commercial licences and locations, and of course mil and civil air publications never got in a y trouble in recent years anyway
    1
  69. Also easier today as many one freqs are on government website for anyone to check
    1
  70. Why not listen to mil airband lots there and some on the 137 to 155.975 am 25 khz as well as 225 to 399.975
    1
  71. Then theres cctv listen to things going on, in towns and cities following shop lifters, even police on there at times but u need a dmr radio as many are dmr, fof nd like farms as well lots active at moment
    1
  72.  @TonyLing  u can pick up stuff from many mile away as they fly around u don't actually need to be near
    1
  73. Recognise the mane wasn't you a prima member
    1
  74.  @TonyLing  most stuff is non enc on dmr
    1
  75. Even my trip down to Eastbourne airport Gatwick, Eastbourne cctv, and stations were either analogue or dmr non enc
    1
  76. Proma not prima lol
    1
  77. Is Brighton more enc, odd small town near me tiny shopping centre is enc, yet larger shop centres and cctv schemes are analogue or dmr non enc
    1
  78. Bae and mbda security non enc near me but glaxo love enc
    1
  79. This was 1 20 years ago not know and then most people broke the law with scanners and still we do
    1
  80. Military use 408 to 413 mhz mostly they don't usually repeater air coms but you'll find crash truck, refuel, raf police, and a tower to units on live side channel like raf Northolt on409. 9 been that 25 years
    1
  81. So if u out looking raf bases communications not all 408 409 arwas with 192.8 hz ctcss everywhere, army and navy use gnd freqs as well! Some at same band some at 430 to 440 mhz
    1
  82. And usaf too but most p25 enc though, at fairford ocassionaly 432 mhz repeaters paired with 407, sometimes in clear p25 but usually not
    1
  83. For freqs look at uk scanning directory edition 9 we published lots of CAA 455 and military Base stuff too, yes sone things have changed of course but done are very much still in use but if course some 455 are dmr as well now
    1
  84. Also ofcom database shows the freqs used fm at airports both for the airport, and then individual airlines, so now days u can look up small of larger airfield and find freqs, for example small airfield like Shoreham 169.275 no tone, in an emergency thry switch in the tower freq at many airfield that don't have a repeater
    1
  85. Raf valley we had a good list in uksd I use to stay there watching and listening and compiling 409 mhz users can't say all are active still, but some usually are as sais Northolt twr have been 409.900 many many years
    1
  86. Someone gave me Cosford again last year and they were all ones had 20 years before
    1
  87. ​ @vw183iltis  I think uhf 385 mhz were allocated to various military us
    1
  88. The actual channels were published at the time, not sure if I added the to my proma database will see if I can find
    1
  89. This was from the 80 and 90s etc nothing to do with government today and the law was from earlier still after the war
    1
  90. When i say royal communications this is royalty protection and special escort group, royal flight help air to ground still used that one 132.650, shared with coastguard
    1
  91. And diplomatic, royalty, special branch in London area and what was called the purple channel, purple the callsign for royal escorts and persons all assigned a purple number The actual purple channel was 152.5875 am I think and linked on to royal palace switchboards and though never busy was always interesting
    1
  92. Biggest problem with 2009 edition was NATO did a freq change for every uhf mil freq, luckily many were published by them at the time, but meant anything there was pretty much gone
    1
  93. Farnborough airshows this year as usual dmr pmse repeaters but the pm escort and mod and other police had a dmr repeater and I heard the prime minister arrive and what locations he was going to and when he arrived and left those locations and the site Crazy thing was there were 4 dmr enc repeaters as well on site I found so who used them if lots of stuff was being passed over the normal dmr Had police talk with me as well, but I turned off the dmr and stuck with airband when they came lol
    1
  94. BTW that story at 3 minutes on me was press, there was no prosecution of me at that time, most times scanning no prosecution but yes have been, but in fact special branch who knew me well, later asked if I wanted to have bbc prosecuted for there illegal taping of me
    1
  95. I carried on proma for a few years more publishing freqs and callsigns, of met police and others, including the protection callsigns of pm, and many royal family members And freqs used by close protection at the time, and funny thing Is not once did old rca, ofcom or police cause any issue for having stuff published
    1
  96. So despite bbc and media trying there was no prosecution from this case in fact not even any issues with authority at all, not one phone call or letter Had worlr media on doorstep, interview on bbc and it shows and news, paperes, radio station, interest in parliament by Simon Hughes, but not one official Was know to special branch had been in what they call purple collaters watch list, this was anyone who at first might be suspicious turning up at royal events, once they realised I wasn't a danger it was joke with Buckingham Palace police, telling me men in black wanted to speak to me, and when Buckingham Palace first opened up, those guys telling me while in St James park there's no way your going to be let in to the palace
    1
  97. Very few were prosecuted for listening or publishing freqs, as others said if I was classed as terrorist, or burglar then yes more would be prosecuted, and even disclosure is rare, I was working for major media before bbc story, using my information
    1
  98. Again passing information very few prosecution
    1
  99. Another area they do come down on is broadcasting scanning freqs online, advise don't do that
    1
  100. 5 cases I think I had 2 fines and confiscated, 3 dropped goods returned though one wasn't quite that magistrates at bow St told police off
    1
  101.  @RingwayManchester  thanks its out there still but I am a quieter scannerist
    1
  102. Terence was a con artist he never was police he was a fantasist, and in fact my exposing of him on chat rooms still. Pretending to be this time a female mod police officer is when he went to bbc
    1
  103. And the words intelligence officers said about me being dangerous was the words a judge used against him, he vomited fraud as a fake ambulance company, police officer where he was dangerous driving m25 stopping women with a storno radio on board and talking back to met police, he went to prison for that
    1
  104. After I was made aware many sellers of scanners had outstanding debts with him as well, however he like me was later Dx as autistic, and he now lives quietly afaik, and I harbour no ill will against him
    1
  105. He's been in trouble when younger pretending to be Edinburgh castle police I believe that was jail sentence as well and he carried on for many years doing various scams including the crime watch shown m25 stopping women incidents, he was described exactly how hoe this ex mod female and ex intelligence officer female was telling bbc, bbc said it was a trusted source in the intelligence community lol He was a scammer
    1
  106. I stopped my database and groups as was overloading though I had done uksd 9 with the shortwave magazine and earlier had gone to Scotland by coach and bus to uksd Richard Barnes place and did bits wiyh him but as said I overload easy those on groups woukd see my online meltdowns often, and my dvd blu ray became my obsession and scanning mite an occasional hobby
    1
  107. I don't say my name but it's generally well known by older scannerist, I'm. Like marmite loved or hated
    1
  108. It's possible Terence had done links with police, but doubt he was ever an officer as by 20 of so he was already in trouble in Edinburgh
    1
  109. Even though he started the bbc and then international media story I never hated him, he actually phoned me while I had escaped from media, and gave some story I'd upset intelligence community, I said Terence that intelligence happened to say what a judge said to u as printed in media about you, I know you told bbc, you are ex intelligence and u due it because I exposed you for your more serous crimes namely stopping women in m25
    1
  110. I have a file I made up listing media stories on him from across uk and info from radio sellers etc so where on drop box I imagine might find it, however thank Terence as without those stories on me I'd mot have heard about autism and how my obession and other issue from childhood were autistic adhd, few years later the Yorkshire ambukance scam he too was diagnosed, understand he did criminal law in previous Prison, judge didn't imprison him again and he too live a quiet life good luck to him
    1
  111. We still have fire uhf, and often big events u get police on event nets in the clear, I Sussex police cadets as well on business channels
    1
  112. I apologise lol but in truth they were always going to go digital it just takes a long time to make such major changes
    1
  113. My local, stations use pmr 446 but as we get to London or cambridge then proper allocation freqs
    1
  114. Forgot yes had that alinco dj2000 at the time of the story as said great on inversion scrambling as well Al fayed bodyguards on 169.3875 was probably only one using it I had anyway
    1
  115. They don't seem to mind even playing live anymore one site on YouTube has been playing Glasgow several years, publishing freqs they've never really worried about nor standing at military or civil watching and listening
    1
  116. Yes but no one is bothered at enforcing it, at most at an airport u might get a visit by police depending where u are, but that's it no one is going to arrest you for it, we openly listen at airport, base viewing areas, we publish the freqs at airshows at sales stands where I use to work, and we publish scanning freqs in general with no issues It's a law but but it's not ever been used much be it emergency services or aircraft, business or marine
    1
  117. Yes they asked details so they coukd send u there magazines etc
    1
  118. Yes it does and sir, marine commercial pmr it's just never used much in past or today even less, these stories are handful of what millions of people use to listen to police, often in the street open at incident even and no arrests I still go to incidents and listrn to fire handhelds chat to fire officers etc have no issues
    1
  119. We have very few taxis in my area north hertfordshire now on radio
    1
  120.  @Interdimensional27  befire the radios disappeared we had 5 freqs working from one house as nd controller, whatever can company u called it woukd be same controller 2 low band 85 mhz and 3 vhf high 165 mhz
    1
  121. Many did have there scanners and many relied on hobbyists
    1
  122. It's common in usa to speak on atc freqs drone pilots can, but in uk u phone up the atc and ask permission or get authorization on app I think
    1
  123. So in some cases u can get approval at small or near small airfield atz but your not going to Manchester etc saying ok mate
    1
  124. So the radios coukd be used conventional channels on standard uhf home office or trunk freqs
    1
  125. Also u show a uniden there with close call, which is a very good way now to find freqs even if it's digital on ubc125 then will still open the freq up, on sds100 and ubc3600 will decode it in many cases As for uhf police I put my stuff together by listening and working out the channels based on that, also worked out there were special channels 451.975 to 452.350 that weren't regular use, we're mi5, royal protection and other more special use So in 2009 many of the police freqs were still active but many werent easiest 5hibg was to show that this is where they were to be found if u were still pre airwave
    1
  126. Because that freely shared info, the CAA in uk was about to release there own data and set there own system up, but in end they as wiyh other countries was simpler and heavier to let third parties do the hard work
    1
  127. It's not scanning, it's nit broadcasting as such, ok relies on a radio signal but there's generally no issue with data being shared and some can block the information on some sites but others will. Post it anyway as not illegal
    1
  128. Dj sa it's pmr446 only he listens to but I wasn't fully assured
    1
  129.  @FrauditorExposure2  interesting he keeps telling me he's 446 only listening to
    1
  130. I listen everything fire handheld uhf, he's not breaking law auditing he's a good auditor, but adding in listening to there radios openly he opens himself up, but he assured me 446, he said next time hell show it on the radio but haven't seen if he has
    1
  131. I listen and lots of freqs on wtr open by ofcom so makes it easier at some locations if a commercial pmr licence held, in old days radio communications agency use to use proms database as an extra for help finding users with no licence or expired licences, they used the scanning directory as well, that and other publications on the shelf at Baldock monitoring station
    1
  132.  @FrauditorExposure2  2ws that dje, thought you meant dj, dj says he dies 446 only as many like dje have gone into the right wing support I don't watch dje anymore he's too involved with right wing nazi types
    1
  133.  @FrauditorExposure2  I've been on many film and TV sets and they've been fine with me listening in on multiple pmse and uk business channels
    1
  134. Not recently though but I use to be a lot
    1
  135. Most film sets are ok been to many, but add in the auditing which is legal, they are risking the company getting ofcom involved ref the scanning listening
    1
  136. No u can have a tv but not use it watch live TV broadcast unless u have the licence my smart TV I don't watch live TV broadcast or use bbc iPlayer, and play dvd blu-ray as well thtiuuh it all legal
    1
  137. Ok Andy I'll admit to your followers who recall me
    1
  138. Dobt want a big thin as we know bbc and other media how they are, I stated already a few things on this and otger threads
    1
  139. I might not recall others names though I tend to forget
    1
  140. Had more issue with bbc than rca as it was who used my database at baldock monitor station as I had stuff like users who weren't actually licensed or lapsed but still using
    1
  141. But it go too much dealing with it all think late 2000s I stopped updating, just after my help with uk scanning directory that year which ws too much ref my asd, adhd etc, found it getting too much and was showing my overload meltdowns on the group and just thought this is too much
    1
  142. I don't get out much semi reclusive ref my issues best to stop overloading, obsessive behaviour and obsessional thoughts, so mostly local My name here is based on the prime minister radio callsign for his escort and protection METPOL 701
    1
  143. So scanning but hobby as opposed to a full obsession as it wax then, other obsessions now mostky watching old TV and films on repeat and repeat, at least it's safer
    1
  144.  @TheNapalmFTW  yes, nice to hear from you I still. Listen to alot of things though
    1
  145. This was way before all that not know, you could still, get done but it likely in most not, oddly never got in trouble publishing freqs or even royal escort and pm escort radio callsign but. Ew times for listening, but even then just depended on the officers even upto 2009 arrest in end they dropped the case, went for arrest for terrorism, at Wimbledon tennins, to radio telegraph act, 6 months later dropped and radios returned
    1
  146. Back in the years this was happening they used me and others like me we listened we got paid passing information on, though I was in a sky on unit once and they had icom r5 as well, we are talking befir airwaves, though still illegal to. Listen to marine and air orr commercial pmr radios no one really bothers
    1
  147. On airband, no simply can't be done
    1
  148. Don't think they care anymore, they've allowed Glasgow atc YouTube live Glasgow atc comms for 8 years now and ofcom don't seem to have an issue or atc, or indeed with solent Cruise YouTube and Southampton vts comms, and if course they've never worried about those at airshows or airbasss, airfields blasting out comms from there scanners, or indeed us publishing freqs
    1
  149. Don't forget mostbig ships have the 457 467 mhz on board comms, some are analogue some dmr and large port you should get some activity
    1
  150. No so far where I go, not one thing picked up on dpmr despite my scanner uogared key and firmware, lots of business on the new above 446.100 channels but not the digital ones
    1
  151. No tv at 380 to 400 it's still military airband
    1
  152. This was years ago not now
    1
  153. And a run by israel as well both Zionist companies, also odd how many terror attacks in like Kenya shopping mall and other places just happen to be run by g4s, false flags to keep military industrial complex going and part of global capitalism
    1
  154. These companies run us by they are run by a larger shadow government regardless of who we bite for we'll get the same
    1
  155. Diplomatic bag is surely the ambassador wife lol
    1
  156. In uk u aren't allowed to live stream atc and if found chances are you'll be told to stop, live atc the biggest streamer won't let u, but guess there's some sites who might but any person doing so is taking a big risk, listening to military and civil is illegal but respected as us sharing radio freqs, talking a out what you've heard, but streaming from. Uk no
    1
  157.  @blue_jm  OK maybe but live atc and the big streamers, like brosdcastify simply won't allow uk users, yes I've had streams in zello of an airshow each year, but only 20 or so listeners its kept small and close who knows, and I noticed it wasn't up last year, have no idea if it was forced to shut
    1
  158. So is there any? There is a YouTube Glasgow airport with coms who seems to have got away with it
    1
  159. But I know more who tried and got in trouble, not prosecuted but warned if not taken down they would be, so there's no major live streams of uk scanner activity, there might be some not oyshed too much I've never heard of but live atc and brosdcastify won't allow anything from countries where irs illegal
    1
  160. You might of got some of 15 plus scanners I had stolen by police
    1
  161. 4 scanners with stuff programmed veery possible these were mine what models were there
    1
  162. It's actually very big hobby we don't worry about it bring illegal it's rare there's anyone in trouble listening or publishing freqs, I use to put airshows freqs up on stand selling scanners at airshows, we use to have them on as well showing and hearing the freqs, go to any airshow uk everyone waking around with scanners blasting out, same roo wiyh military airbasss and civil airports, airfield a it a massive hobby the maws are rarely used even whr we had police to listrn to rarely was anyone in trouble
    1
  163. Where the head of mi5 etc lives are police alarmed adresees for rapid response and evacuation if needed, therss 3 level of evacuation of the high ups, gold wing, silver and bronze, the highest up will be gold wing Anyway alarm went off and on ranger diplomatic channel radio guy said alarm at so and so this is the hone of head of mi5, I mean how stupid can u get
    1
  164. Mi5 adress is a secret adress afaik to this day but this person in radio had to shout it out location and who lives there
    1
  165. Ask electronic was the big seller Tottenham court road, was good had a good rapport with owner but they sold grey imports as well had to be careful
    1
  166. Encryption on fitecthate unusual and isn't recommended, fire have to do mutual aids no good if one is using encrypted, sureky yiu just mean dmr, use my anytone and my capable scanners on those they all have 16 channels uk plan 8 dmr, 8 analogue sane freqs
    1
  167. I like to set up, 153 to 163 25 khz why 153, well servo tugs at Portsmouth and prob other areas use sone mod channels, and I search whole band upto 163 mhz because there's channels private maritime business, on boards handy marine at 161 mhz, and channel zero coastgusrd which now seems to be 158.500 ch50 in southern UK which was a private rescue channels used by many on South Coast but recently had nothing on 156.000 but only 158.500 in use
    1
  168. Wtr ofcom publish the commercial freqs but that doesn't make it legal to listen
    1
  169. At is still illegal as is almost everything it's just rare anyone will be prosecute u can stand at end of military runways and listen no one cares, same as for publishing scanning freqs, thry don't care However I do warn an auditor who uses a scanner, who says he's listening to the freqs and plays audio at times on his YouTube, that while his auditing taking photos and drone is indeed legal, saying I'm. Listening to your radios, and then playing audio on YouTube can get you in trouble, one for the listening other for broadcasting
    1
  170. We still have fire brigade 457 fire ground
    1
  171. And police and pcso on shop and pub watch schemes, even had them using shopwatch doing a drugs surveillance, crazy
    1
  172. 380 to 400 is military airband aaa, well as" tetra
    1
  173. They stopped that about 2003 retailers don't need to do thst any more as law changed u can have a tv with no licence it's what you watch in any device, which if they kept that law they'd have to send details of every Mobile, laptop and PC and tablet they sell
    1
  174.  @BladeRunner21577  then they were wrong as therss been no. Law about owning a tv for many years a device and TV are covered by same legislation it's what u use it for noe having it
    1
  175. I've found a very old tv licensing link with there old 0208 number but nothing upto date but I've had 6 tv in several years and I'm an unlicensed adress as owning tv no longer is a licence needed unless using it or any device for live TV or iPlayer
    1
  176. Found a government report from 2012 stating they would be withdrawing the need and uneccesary burden to retailers in providing information to them about purchases of tv sets
    1
  177. But can't find when this was actually implemented but most retailers stopped this year's ago surprised curry still were doing it in 2018
    1
  178. Just noticed you didn't state what retailer
    1
  179.  @BladeRunner21577  a tv can be used to watch dvd blu ray, smart TV amazon, YouTube as long as not iPlayer or live, so it's exaclty same as a phone, tablet in terms of current law, it's a device capable was the old law, so yes it would of applied in the end but they ditched that way when online started getting more in use, impossible to police based on owning a device
    1
  180.  @BladeRunner21577  yes weird just spoke to tv licensing and they said they don't even collect such records she couldn't find when that requirement stopped but was in media at the time, u must of got a crazy retailer, at same tone had to check to make sure my owning tv and watching dvds was ok, as my latest mom licensed adress letter hadn't come through
    1
  181. No license adress, she says they only post once a month at end of month now so should get my December declaration letter in next few days
    1
  182. If anyone else has more information on the retailer asking for details still despite even tv licensing saying this isn't required then come in
    1
  183. I can't and won't stop him we agreed not to have me partake and I assumed he dropped the project hopefully he will but as said I accept he can it's a free country
    1
  184.  @stuartvaughan8599  as said I didn't want to get involved and he asked me few weeks ago but I can't stop him from doing a piece however as I've just emailed him, was a complex issue involving a member I chucked from group who was police impersonator, intelligence officer and paramedics impersonator who served jail time for things there Including fraud, in story bbc said, intelligence officer says he's a danger to the country publishing frequencies etc In fact that was what tge judge said to him when he went down for driving a car on m25 stopping females and then using a radio to pretend to be an officer But he's gradually afaik got on with his life, and wish him well and me too, we are both on autistic spectrum etc I try and just maintain a quite life main listening is mostly military airband, vhf civil, marine and local farms can be interesting at times and yes other stuff at times At that time special branch wanted me to file a complaint to bbc about how they did the story, I refused there was no government comeback, at that date or after and no one ever told me stop publishing information and indeed ofcom ot old radio agency used my database to go after users who were using radios illegally ie taxi companies losing licence and yet still on my databases as still used Had a guy ex radio agency tell me this
    1
  185. Just 2 stories here one day king of Jordan, the newer one visiting Buckingham Palace, police on duty at gate called me over, men in black want to talk to u they spotted u on camera, I stood half an hour, was never held, asked when these guys were coming, the sod said, I was only joking lol
    1
  186. The day Buckingham Palace first opened joined the throngs in line 2 Plain clothes from royalty protection pulled me off queue, said your not going in there, told uniform royal parked officers as I was in St James Park to arrest me if I stayed in area, but they didn't care I stayed in park and they talked to me a few times but weren't going to waste there time on me
    1
  187. I rarely go more than 10 miles from home now for many years my anxiety keeps me local and happy with that I don't get involved in those thing anymore
    1
  188. Remember use to sit at battersea helo then owned by Al fayed, his v bodyguards used 169.3875 fm with simple inversion, I woukd listen to them at there park lane adress as well, has an alinco dj2000 that dis simple inversion very well At battersea was questioned by his bodyguards why I was there but that was it, they assumed just listening to helos, not there so called secure channel
    1
  189. Had four ot more times when they stole my radios and I ever worked withing 20 minutes of release from police custody, I had got new scanners
    1
  190. The bastards never beat me, oddly they never cared about me publishing freqs
    1
  191. But confused by this story as u stare December this year when whistler stopped 3 years or more in terms of ditching new scanners, no idea why they did but uniden carried on with new sets, and now we have alinco and if course we can use dmr ham radios, we can buy them without a licence all sellers sell to anyone I can order a new dmr handheld like anytone as example and use the freqs it cones with loaded, and edit to local dmr and analogue freqs, so that has probably had an effect on scanners sales as I can use my alinco to tx as well low power on 446 yes illegal buy who cares
    1
  192. Dmr capable scanners sell well still and in fact n analogue are still. Lot to hear
    1
  193. I don't class retailers licence information stopping 2013 as recent, the law has changed allowing for anyone to have a tv, so asking retailers become redundant and also retailers fought against this as well
    1
  194. We put freqs up on a board and I even sold freq lists, we had police, airfield ops, military and civil freqs, we aren't giving u authority to listen as a trader at an airshows we don't have that authority, even when I'd speak to display team and ask fir there Air to Air freq, still wasn't the giving5ne authority Even me doing a comms test with a outbsbded transceiver that could operate in falcons para fm dz radio mic channel 465.1000 I'm still not authorised even though I was checking because there manager and dz team were having issues on there discrete freq which I already knew
    1
  195. Airshows and airfields and bases no one really cares what u listen to, but still illegal
    1
  196. No in uk anyway place is supposed to say ready for departures and atc 9nkt have the right to say take off
    1
  197. @paulsengupta971  well stated yes aurcraftv is reddy for departure, then atc clear takeoff and aircraft responds cleared take off
    1
  198. ​ @RingwayManchester mine were all London
    1
  199. Most people were not just hams prosecutions were very low, yes ok I was more than 10 times but I was at demonstrations passing info to those involved, was also informing media, was there at bombings, royal and military events, sporting events loaded up with royal protection, special branch military intelligence and lots more, I took the risk lost radios, and just got more Was on royalty protection collater list, so my photos and details were given, one day was doing scanning on bus nr Victoria Station, trooping the colour so I stayed using buses when my name and he's under admiralty arch came up, well I knew wasn't me, they got him and it was queen mums chef in the crowd lol When Buckingham Palace first opened I joined queue st James Park, men in black came up said your mot going on there King if Jordan visited one day bp, gate officer at no said mib want to talk to you, I stood there 20 minutes, was never held so was odd, asked officer what's going on he said soryy was only joking lol By that time I wss not on the collater list anymore was classed as safe they knew I had my scanners and was listening, when arrested 2009 under terrorism act they checked me with special branch and they cleared me, and was taken off terrorist arrest charge
    1
  200. @arthurtwoshedsjackson6266  think had a gre or radio shack model as well as bc245
    1
  201.  @6643bear  Then the 152 mhz mainset including the purple channel am 152.5875 I think with palace switchboard on, especially interesting night of Windsor Castle fire, principle in car getting info from police post at Windsor, just as brunswick to were burst into flames, and a Scottish palace officer saying oh no the brunswick tower has judt burst into flames ooh noo
    1
  202. Which was mostky due to technical advances not dien to freq listening and sharing freqs, and indeed the hobby has continued for many, yes police was great but was never my only thing, marine, commercial pmr, fire uhf, military and civil airband all getting more and more not less, yes much dmr but mist not encrypted, still have lots Many commercial pmr still on samr freqs over 35 years but dnr etc others in new freqs and of course many new licences on ofcom databases, though sone are change if licence not just new, then uk business licences short term stuff,events Farnborough airshie had starmers protection on the dmr, telling me where he was arriving and what locations he was going to so lots if interesting coms at times
    1
  203. Don't forget director on 130.01666
    1
  204. 0lus of course uhf and vhf pmr freqs sone dmr
    1
  205. Even if digital many are not encrypted
    1
  206. You get some who just won't listen, argued with a guy refusing to believe fire handheld at 457 mhz 462 mhz are channeled first 8 dmr, second 8 analogue same freqs
    1
  207. At one point I thought maybe they had just gone off and he knew, but then heard them again, sometimes analogue, mostly dmr not encrypted
    1
  208. Terence cooper the man who was behind my brush with BBC in 2002 and just a handful of cases he has been involved in It seems Scotland is where he started but I know of dealings in dorset reading and home counties He was also well known to many in the amateur radio world especialy dealers who many have unpaid bills of which none afaik ever took him to court as waste of time and money Then of course he set up the police stop website where he again went around taking pics often behind police cordons in riots and other situations of which many times he said he made arrests and filmed himself with police on the ground who foolishly believed he was intelligence or police etc That was taken down by police in end I believe but I don’t think he was charged with anything Thrill-freak Terence Cooper had his own operations HQ, the Record can reveal today. Weirdo Cooper, who allegedly posed as mercy men and police officers, ran his 999- fantasy world from his own flat. We have gained access to the rooms where Cooper is said to have planned his bizarre stunts, posing as a member of the emergency services he hero-worshipped. His den is littered with a magpiecollection of books, magazines and brochures on the police, fire and ambulance services. It's claimed Cooper frequently turned up at the scene of accidents impersonating fire and police officers or medics. Ads by GoogleDamien Hirst –Tate Modern Iconic survey- Tate Modern Book Online Now Tate.org.uk/DamienHirst Formula 1™ on Sky Brand new channel dedicated to F1™. Sky Sports F1™ HD. Launches 9 March www.sky.com/F1 He's suspected of being involved in incidents as far apart as the south of England, Edinburgh and the north of Scotland. It's also claimed he posed as a policeman at Dunblane just days after last month's tragedy. And he is even believed to have pretended to be a UN observer in the former Yugoslavia, where he was arrested by Croatian authorities. The Record revealed yesterday how senior officers from all eight Scottish forces met in Perth to discuss how to tackle Cooper. And the 27-year-old bachelor's Walter Mittylifestyle is in tattersas police forces all over the UK investigate a string of cases. He is now in Porterfield Prison, Inverness, awaiting sentence after admitting fraudulently obtaining confidential details about police operations. Jason McGuire, who rented Cooper his flat in Shandwick Place, Edinburgh, told how he got the fright of his life one night when he saw a bullet- proof vest lying in the hall. Jason, 32, said: "I let him the flat through a friend and at first he seemed okay. "The neighbours, who are mostly older people, thought the world of him.
    1
  209. That's from my terence file kept just in case he surfaced or someone like him again 2ho I might think was him and coukd pass to police in helping identify an impersonator
    1
  210. Ay airshows or end of runway and airport, including military we tend to blast it out no issues, sat end of Farnborough with 6 scanner 2 weeks ago on both air and griubd fm even had the pm escorts on the event dmr net
    1
  211. U get notams as well with uhf freqs sone asacs, fac and navigation, but ukafg guide is best to buy witb lots of freqs, remover civil 118 to 137 8.33, military extended vhf 117 to 155.975 8.33 upto 137 25 khz usually upto 155.975 am, the main uhf mil 225 to 399.975 am mostly 25 khz
    1
  212. As well as uksd and my own Yahoo group I had, also use to sell freq lists at riat fairford and other shows, had air freqs, police, fire, even users there as well, use to sell really well At riat sone of there comms guys would be impressed by what I had on them This befire the 455 mhz riat freq were punished on government website now, but they don't publish the mod band extras at 444 mhz, of 432 407 base coms by usaf and mod police
    1
  213. So even if u see freqs on ofcom websites, that's often judt part of the picture keep scanning, searching and even better use close call
    1
  214. I see much of my old stuff and uksd on sites claiming and even copy right sd there own, I never sought to copyright anything I published from myself as first not my frequency is it, not even supposed to listening but sad today, dobt publish that as I published it, tough luck anyone who does freq lists, the freq aren't yours in first place Sharing information was my way, money and copyright wasn't
    1
  215. Actually not all, one was Wimbledon tennis championship outside as every year, one year female detective called in support group, but in previous years if stood there wiyh officers at Royal used gate showing me there radios, and me passing the freq the ticket touts were using
    1
  216. Ls4khill range had a public live firing event was great on military low band and uhf mod police repeater 417 in and 431 mhz output and then I heard. My name mentioned wiyh scanners but they never bothered me just mentioned me
    1
  217. I was known well to royalty protection and special branch and on any royal event they would be keeping an eye on me and heard my name and description a few times but after a few years they decided wasn't worth it and was told I wasn't considered a threat so they didn't care
    1
  218. Was known to publish sensitive and commercial and mil, marine and air freqs but no one cared in fact my database was used by the then radio communications agency as I had freqs listed that were unlicensed etc so they coukd get a taxi company using unlicensed by looking at my information
    1
  219. So over a few years I lost 30 scanners as, average say fir me is 4 scanners out then, now I still take 2 out as a minimum airshows 8 sitting there all going away I 7se to be released by police in London, then off to shop and buy 3 or more scanners so in space of a few hours if be fully operational again, eaach arrest actually made me more obsessed as I'm adhd autistic but wasn't diagnose till 37 so my 2009 arrest they couldn't talk to me as classed vulnerable police Dr made sure they bailed me no questions untill I got a adult carer etc 3 months later social worker and I went to Wimbledon they handed me radios as I got there and told me that was it
    1
  220. @crazyunclebob6901  but as we can use scanners in uk it's not irwellian
    1
  221. I'm 19 stone now, still. Look like shrek but not green
    1
  222. And to be thankful it was through all the media coverage that I found out I was adhd autistic so there u go
    1
  223. This was before airwave secure stuff apart from fire brigade in scene handhelds
    1
  224. Seeing as, the arrests were mostky under tory but sone Labour they can't all be communist we were arrested under Thatcher some ox us
    1
  225. Was thatcher a communist she kept that quiet
    1
  226. Baldock Hertfordshire been there before they monitor hf upwards business users emergency services all sorts probably different set up than years ago when everything was analogue They have mobile teams as well as monitoring bands at hf from baldock Believe they use remote monitoring as well maybe that aerial is to do with that never seen one before though Ofcom Baldock police the bands for itu in this country
    1
  227. No they don't, they stopped that years ago, they didn't buy them, at the time retailers were 9nlifedvto collect the info, but since 2013 that's not the case as tgete4es no law on owning and needing a licence, so it woukd be pointless collecting lots of information that diesnt mean u are breaking the law I can have 50 tvs, hundreds of devices and be watching things legally
    1
  228. I need at licence yo watch live TV broadcast on any format, so stay away from live TV this includes some live events like the ones amazon does and Netflix will soon
    1
  229. Yes but u can legally have a tv no licence it's what u use it or any device for ie live TV and bbc iPlayer now has been a few years
    1
  230. So now u can have 50 tvs and still don't need a licence for having them
    1
  231. The law was most used in previous tory governments not this current onr, wt act and communications act are very rarely used when police were analogue, yes a few cases but not many compared to his many scanner users, but now it's just history as no recent prosecution
    1
  232. They were good on Motorola system metradio and a vhf military system at Salisbury plain so yes bear at scanners with trunk, Motorola type 2 were very useful for met radio after the vhf storno system replaced We had an edqcs system tested I think before that was being tested and listening on a scanner after each over woukd be a set of tones holiding I on that freq At incident I coukd use a normal scanner and scan the inputs to do quite well, on the metradio each area had differant ctcss on the input freqs
    1
  233.  @alannorthdevonuk763  the trunk tracker scanners worked on met radio London and starnet, also am army system at Salisbury plain
    1
  234. Not all fire uhf handheld are not secure, dmr and analogue 16 channel 8 of each same freqs
    1
  235. And at events u can get police and other services on analogue or dmr in clear nets
    1
  236. This is old stuff u can listen to fire handhelds and police on cctv nets in towns and also at major event shared nets but all else is secure
    1
  237. So now u may know why I use metpol701 as my handle, abut pretentious, now though might go purple 1 instead
    1
  238.  @arthurtwoshedsjackson6266  u guessed who I am?
    1
  239. Those old days we had amazing things to listen to, but it was always going to end, technology was rapidly changing making digital an easier concept
    1
  240. And to this day sone of the freqs in 9th edition uk scanning directory I helped with, deleting lots of unused freqs, we left sone police and others because we'd only just changed and many freqs were still well in use
    1
  241. We they do we do too we use hf in clear and digital as Russians will that freq has been known one if the Russian bomber channels for many years it's no secret, same as our hf raf, and usaf, and others all are published
    1
  242. @highflying82  no publishing of freqs in uk has never been a major issue and today socialist military Air band guide 2025 just been released with its online version, updated weekly and live heard military airband there's 2 actually 137 to about 156 am 25 khz and 225 to 399.975 am 25 khz plus of course there's military in the civil 118.137 am 8.33
    1
  243. @highflying82  this though was hf, 6698 usb, but airband or mist apart from a few spot freqs is am not fm and sorry we've been publishing freqs for 35 years it's simply not an issue
    1
  244. There's a raf qra freq tad 141 270.15 that's been in use for intercept coordination with military aircraft and ground units for many years, if that's active it's either qra training or the real thing
    1
  245. @highflying82  u don't get a waiver you'll see scannerist at every busy uk raf, usaf base scanner blaring put on ops, air to air and navigation atc freqs no one bothers in fact yiu might get pilots, raf police usaf police talk to radio listeners at the bases, I don't recall anyone in trouble just for publishing freqs online or 8n book form like the UK scanning directory there use to be
    1
  246. Also your not going to get many scanners sold not covering full 225 to 399.975, but for me i must have 137 to 155.975 am most, but a few fm as well, I have 20 scanners all scanning mil air we the report new finds and they'll get added to publications online or in books, it's a very popular hobby be it scanning commercial pmr, airfield, airshows, marine even fire brigade uhf still
    1
  247. Remeber 430 is used by mod sites as well nit just ham
    1
  248. ​ @winstonchurchill6506 probably using the dmr more simple get a dnr hand held or a dmr capable scanner load in all the channels dmr and analogue, we had a big fire here recently and 5 chs used some dmr and some the analogue
    1
  249.  @samsalloway7412  it's dmr and analogue it's a national set up every brigade has same set up, sone use dmr exclusively some analogue and dmr as needed but for interops it's a standard set up so every one can say go to ch8 or ch14 and be able to communicate
    1
  250. Channel one is a dmr 457.0375, ch9 is 457.0375 analogue so if analogue it's now ch9, befire the national dmr plan ch1 was 457.0375 analogue but as said that's now ch9
    1
  251. Dpmr is only 446 mhz in uk and 149 is allocated as well there's no dpmr on marine as its not pmr licence free
    1
  252. Do u mean dmr? Dpmr is pmr446 digital
    1
  253.  @xkeyscore1120  no that's dmr dpmr is pmr 446
    1
  254. Dpmr is digital specifically for pmr non licensed it's for 446 and a 149 mhz system, dmr is what's for any users
    1
  255. Ok seems it's available not got any users at all near me on dpmr in Hertfordshire, not even 446 dmr and few nexedge but dpmr, do u know of any users
    1
  256. The only dpmr radios I've seen are the pmr446 ones and no one seems to be using them, they but the radios then stick with the analogue channels on the extended 446 band
    1
  257. I took base station to Manchester Airport and handheld sat plugged in with mag mount aerial, airport police had no issue with scanners but said that one there is stealing airport electricity and told me to disconnect it
    1
  258. Cardiff me and friend in his car loaded with scanner parked up checked up by police but no issues, just we looked suspicious
    1
  259. In uk it's perfectly legal a few auditors do that and police nor embassy staff can do anything
    1
  260. Essex along with most use both dmr and analogue there's a uk wide set up where all ch1to 8 are dmr, 9 up are analogues also ch1 colour code 1 ch2 colour code 2 and so on, same in Essex, same in Hertfordshire, same everywhere, 457 mhs plus 450.1 and 464.1 and the dual chs in at 462
    1
  261. So just get a dmr set scanner like a uniden ubc3600 or sds100 sds200 or similar whistler scanners and load up tag with ch numbers,and dmr colour codes and then again same freqs analogue then u can switch between any dmr or analogue use or scan of course
    1
  262. Not legal but we do it regardless u don't stop hobby just cause illegal especially when no one in authority really cares
    1
  263. @majorlaff8682  why Russian to talk to. Me,
    1
  264.  @majorlaff8682  as said icao requirement is for Air traffic control not private channels
    1
  265. There was no air traffic controller in fact these aircraft stay in international airspace and done actually talk to any atc just seen on radar and qra be it raf or other countries assets
    1
  266. @majorlaff8682  OK lol
    1
  267. Really that's crazy despite law in uk you can sit there a scan with it boasting out, no earpiece needed I even connect up to a larger speaker at airshows and airfields, use to sell scanners at the airshows as well where we put the freqs up on a board and played coms via 10 differant scanners, yes illegal, but blind eye turned
    1
  268. Illegal, in yuk but u won't have any issues at or around airfield or military bases and we use to sell scanners at airshows put up, the freqs on a board and play over speakers, but actual live streaming woukd be treated different
    1
  269. Just imagine me getting that out while listening to royal bodyguards nothing like being discrete, ok they knew of me anyway but still I always used a mini 2 inch or so aerial out and about
    1
  270. No they are legal
    1
  271. No sold at auction
    1
  272. Lost on that bbc story it's not the one I know, and what's that about queen and stornoway? That's a bit weird
    1
  273. If it's abot me can only think I might if said about movements of queen on notam, including the telephone automated service, that gave pilots info on movements by air if royal family to avoid conflicts, this is of course or was legal, as for me monitoring id have to be near by and I ain't ever gone to stornoway lol
    1
  274. Again those army freqs are still mod freqs to this day so maybe individual mould freqs are gone but the bands are very much still used by army etc
    1
  275. Also mould was still well in use late 90s not 80s and sone later than that and then still those bands are prime mod bands today both airband at 137 to 160 mhz mostky am but some on fm, some unite have used either, switch as needed The many 137 to 160 mhz military freqs, and many low band 30 to 87 mhz, but also 430 to440 mhz while ham. Use it's still a lot of military base users as well, and if course again in scanning directory we added 406 to 420 mhz, many spot raf base freqs still sand today
    1
  276. In fact it's amazing how many times soneone says found raf Cosford etc on 409 mhz freq and I look at my old lists and say yes we had that back in2007, same applied for other freqs Remember uhr fire ground freqs at 450 and 457 462 still in use as well.
    1
  277. One of thd main suppliers of a CD of freqs didn't send me his which I paid for mainly because he saw my name and realised he couldn't con me, I'd seen his screenshot and said this is my stuff, with uksd previous stuff and yes done newer as well I use my online not updated since 2007 list especially this time of year for my farm scanning as again any such freqs haven't changed I 30 years still same freq in use
    1
  278. The uksd gave a hood breakdown of where to find things as well but now pmr can be allocated in 152 147 mhz home office and mod bands more than ever before So today hearing traffic on what was primary mod now could be pmr, but many mod freqs there too, my local intelligence base uses 153 mhz dmr repeaters, not sure on fort Monkton they used 149 mhz for many years in Portsmouth area for training, often heard tailing suspect on godport ferry or gun wharf, possible digital on differant frews but likely still in a mod band
    1
  279. Mould links were kept up in sone areas but used by mod police and similar u coukd here the noises associated wiyh mould repeaters so was still very much used into late 90s
    1
  280. Then close protection if total family and government were still very active late 2000s and of course in London met police trunked system that we had I uksd at the time of published was still in use So don't knock uksd it was very useful but never see it as everything or fully upto date, but as a guide sone will be still in use others won't, but look at the bands to see where the radio traffic is, uksd would help that
    1
  281. I don't join scanning groups but I have a person who does and does post new stuff, but we are often saddened by some which is inaccurate from those saying what they heard Remeber the additional issue is a wide band scanner may pick up breakthrough other parts of the band, so saying uhf fire at 456 mhz reported when I knoe your listening to 457.0375 breaking through on 456 etc on sone scanners, or like taxis breaking in on vhf marine band on scanner when the actual freq is 165 166 etc and not as reported by user Even makes hard for me when I go to a place and hearing taxi at 162 mhz, when the actual freq is 166 mhz
    1
  282. Andy pixelated it not the media in those days they didn't pixelate
    1
  283. To be truthfull I look a sight if not pixelated
    1
  284. But the dmr is still active so that's easy to listen to the fire ground and can be busy even when shopping in tesco, or small or large incidents or airshows, big events with fire there
    1
  285. Depends on circumstances my last arrest 2009 at Wimbledon tennis was under terrorism act but by time we got to the police custody that had been withdrawn, on talking to specialist department prob special branch, and royalty protection etc as was listening to protection freqs at Wimbledon for royal movements I was well known and those departments had no interest in taking my listening further, so I ended up wit w t act 1949 and I think a later 2000 of similar communact 3 months later with my care either we went to Wimbledon and all charges dropped and a nice bag if radios given back
    1
  286. U can have a telly and no licence legally, as u can any device the law is whether watching live TV broadcast, certain live events and bbc iPlayer
    1
  287. It didn't and they make sure they don't it stay in international airspace but near
    1
  288. Use to be main listening when 454 455 cab secure in network southeast and 200 mhz for inter city stuff, when train at signal nr my flat I'd get a close call hit as he was talking to signaller Station comms of course weird mix of dmr nxdn and analogue Yesterday eastbourne station uhf repeater small station why? East Croydon single freq massive station Who. On earth decided that big station gets single freq, yet small a powerful repeater
    1
  289. ​ @ianwalker1182 they moved off that around 1980s and moved to 152 to 155 mhz put 143 to 148 inputs and some singles at both ends as well
    1
  290. 5hey have and it's still illegal to listen to most else but we do still.
    1
  291. @dieseldragon6756 ref YouTube if your watching live TV broadcast links on any platform then u still need licence, broadcast not amateur like ringway live, though cnn, bbc, itv, sky etc live at times and those need licence, but say mirror, telegraph, Washington Times ie newspaper with live events, no as they aren't broadcast links from the sutdio output live
    1
  292. @26KE185  hard to prove they go on trust most, that's why I tell tvl my situation tvs and smart TV and don't watch live TV broadcast or iPlayer on any device or tv, they have always so far acceoted that, yes they might pay a visit but I don't have tv set up with freeview nor any aerials, of course I coukd be watching live on devices, hopefully they'll carry on believing my statements to them
    1
  293.  @localbod  diesel and myself I think vv Basically said that, not broadcast media, that needs licence be it cnn or sky, but as well as private individual u can watch nyt, telegraph, mirror live etc and they are not not broadcast media but orint media with lice content on big news stories
    1
  294. There's no exception but in fact getting in trouble whether it was emergency services or anyone else was very rare, I probably hold the record of 10 times or do but many times had no issues with emergency services, as for airband at airports, military bases you'll see loads and at airshows no body cares regardless of the law, it's a very under used law always has been
    1
  295. The law has been around since after ww2 it's rarely been enforced
    1
  296. @RingwayManchester  had police visit me and my driver at Cardiff Airport once they asked about the scanners got on there radios and said ok
    1
  297. Very hit and miss I've been with police listening in, and others who arrest and charge, so good and bad experience, though publishing on Internet as I did despite attention of bbc and others have never been in trouble for publish or sharing the freqs, callsigns etc
    1
  298. U don't need freq counters today use the ubc125 or other uniden with close calls and many freqs in uksd weren't out of date by publication there's still some from 2009 edition that still in use many of course have but can assure u I 2009 edition I. Purpose added a section about latest changed before publication And also sections on coms at airshows etc, especially riat that still active today Also airshow vhf reserved freqs But no u can't keep fully upto date it's impossible but edition 9 of uksd I. Personally deleted large chunks of freqs and added many new heard at that time
    1
  299. ​ @gano7297 not in uk there's many both airfield and airways on actual 8. 33 freqs
    1
  300. ​ @juliussokolowski4293 therss a hell of a lot 8.33 freqs in uk
    1
  301. Your fine on one's that are still on centre freqs 25 kHz but you'll have issues with many freqs if it can't do anything near 8.33 kHz
    1
  302. When metradio came in I think airwave was already on the drawing board anyway was only supposed to be a short term system after the 147 mhz station freqs where rest of uk used 450 mhz
    1
  303. Hertfordshire was 10 7 repeat also, 10 9 was a on or vehicle check
    1
  304. 10 8 was on check not 10 9
    1
  305. 8 haven't had a license several years I don't watch the live TV, use bbc iPlayer on any device so I am non licensed adress
    1
  306. Messages are disappearing no idea why
    1
  307. Use close call scanners very useful
    1
  308. But counters yes used to use differant ones many a freq found, never got overloaded in most setting we used them, but close call scanners voice and freq straight away
    1
  309. Or use ofcom wtr to find freqs as well
    1
  310. We still have fire uhf handhelds at scene of incidents we can listen too, especially if we have a dmr scanner as they use both analog and dmr
    1
  311. For me i love our local farm radios wee have dmr, ctcss, dcs single uk business, and repeaters in vhf pmr bands, tomorrow at our santa tractor ride will have 12 or more freqs active including stewards, security on lions on dmr and ctcss radios escorting tye ride, taking ubc3600 and uniden 160dn
    1
  312. Publishing was never an issue in uk, not in any serious way, in fact we had radio agency at the time using proma databases as well as there own, we knew often freqs in use they didn't ie illegal users, unlicensed so our members found freqs we reported in out database and radio communications agency could see we had found unlicensed users
    1
  313. We should be reporting users and freqs why should they be hidden we should share ofcom are even not caring about streaming freqs marine and air freqs are regularly streamed on YouTube and on zello we've had lakenheath, mildenhall for 10 years now, I can sit and listrn on scanner or zello it's great, no one cares
    1
  314. And then if course top end of 147 was still well used after they went metradio for special users, and met purple channel am with link to Palace switchboards was a firm favorite when active, not a busy channel but was good when it was
    1
  315. BTW ch8 diplo channel had tower of London and London prison call up at times as well
    1
  316.  @arthurtwoshedsjackson6266  nice yes
    1
  317. No more gt with uniform tsg, nsy and feeding lol, no more hearing browaday, sevcom or rarer jcb or teapot one
    1
  318. Broadway
    1
  319. I am I use to sell to media when I was at the proma,
    1
  320. But I did ham radio mega boring so scanning was for me and I'd i heard things I'd interest I sold to bbc, itv news, news of the works were my main
    1
  321. I'm not ashamed of it, it's news
    1
  322. I sold stories during g gulf War on hf listening itn news sent a chauffeur car to pick me up but if course I coukd be lying lol
    1
  323. Police usually knew who I was at scenes of bombs etc, one time city bishops gate bomb they said.... Is here be careful what you say he's got his scanners
    1
  324.  @BrianMorrison  n just a scanners guy well known who did stuff for media at times as well
    1
  325. Surely the 15 icom doesn't do digital modes so can't really compare 2 totally differant scanners icom haven't seem to understood tte market needs at least dmr and nexedge scanners, scanners without those modes are not worth the money
    1
  326. Good ol ch33 I think that was
    1
  327. Uniden and radio shack have a key sequence think was power and 9 or similar that woukd reset the memories but never used it, don't think they ever actually checked my scanners once when I had any confiscated
    1
  328. ​ @OldManBadly not true people have been prosecuted in uk just for listening, though yes would or was shall I say police, if scanner has atc, or business freqs In the police unlikely nor ofcom or old rca would do anything
    1
  329.  @OldManBadly  and I said some including me sometimes got prosecuted other times didn't, even when I was passing on info to the diamond robbery gang, millennium dome, btw I didn't know that till, a few years later but met police didn't even question Me, they knew who I was and ruled me out as anything to do with that robbery
    1
  330. The person I was with, we met at the dome oddly some the fancy dress characters kept being near us and I thought this is odd are they police, never said anything but apparently someone I know told others on a scanning group I was seen passing information to the gang, but he had been deemed as not part of it so they never included me in anything illegal. Think was prosecuted 3 times, up for prosecution 6 times and many more times 8nersction with police was positive
    1
  331. Fire brigade still. Use uhf analogue and dmr in uk as well as there digital tetra mobile to base coms, handhelds at scenes are still fully east to listrn to, better still if u have a dmr scanner
    1
  332. Another time Wimbledon I'd found ticket touts using 168 mhz single freq, went to police and official to tell them, as they didn't know themselves, kept them. Informed of what was happening, and spoke to police about there vhf storno radios, of course I had the full storno set up channels all in thee so when she said we're using 48 49 I said yes i know that lol
    1
  333. Though they only had the 3 channels sets, but some met had full sets with all the discrete tsg, flying squad and protection vhf, I was on those and royalty channels uhf as well those were the days
    1
  334. After 911 and to this day army intelligence on the streets as well in London, callsign army on met was aztec, be it army Intel or greeb goddess escorts But after 911 were analogue on police radios, T event where pm and Queen was, aztec were in the crowd some very near me, on the protection channel in use
    1
  335. The day Buckingham Palace first opened to public joined the queue, two men in suits in St James park, said don't ever think your going in there and told parks polo r to arrest me if I returned, those officer didn't care and I just sat in park still differant area and carried on listening, and royal. Parks police I spoke to same guys had no intention of arrsts6 As years went by though had been on special branch watch liste for people who coukd be a problem in end they realised only listening wasn't a problem. Being o watch list was interesting purple commander and collater would say trooping the color etc, subject 5 my name at admiralty arch possibly radio in left pocket This one time was listrnug from top deck of bus near Victoria, so wasn't me in end sas poor old Queen mothers chef who poor sod looked like me
    1
  336. ​ @RingwayManchester they use 409 mhz but those are refuel, maintenance, squadron, and usually a twr to vehicles freq u know it's raf on 409 are if tone is 192.8 hz Other military users there don't use the 192.8 hz or I've never found any on there
    1
  337. Crazy thing now there's radios 50 quid that will tx am and fm in military airband, but not civil airband, therss at least one on market tx and rx 200 300 mhz etc and for sone reasoj txes both am or fm,
    1
  338. It's been laws once 1948 with updates later but it's nothing to do with current or last few governments
    1
  339. ​ @JamieWalker-pc6nd you can watch at a uk airbases and listen in with your scanner blaring out no one, no one cares
    1
  340. Did you record the tanker and the tad 141 270.15 that's normally used to coordinate qra and qra training?
    1
  341.  @Madsstuff  standard uk qra is after takeoff establish with tad 141 270.15, but there a few others they have used as well, tanking when it's a policing mission I find they use the 343.65 the most but again there are others can't recall all
    1
  342. It's still illegal to rebroadcast atc,and other freqs but I think even that now is ignored by authority I notice one shipping video playing Southampton vts marine radio and for several year one live Glasgow atc
    1
  343. Hoping one day we'll get actual permission to add things to live atc etc via CAA NATS ETC, but seems they and ofcom have given up worrying about YouTube broadcasts at least just now solent shipping playing solent vts on marine and he calls them on phone at times as well they know what he's doing and seem to have no issues with it being broadcast, thank goodness As years have gone by scanning has become more tolerated, ok some stuff digital encryption as well, but we still have fire brigade uhf to listen to and at events adnin channels will have medics, police, fire, stewards, security often Al in the clear
    1
  344. There's been scanner sellers both at airports and airshows, at airshows we would put up team, police, fire, medical, admin freqs as well as display freq and airfield freqs and would program up a dozen scanner one with external speaker and relay show airshow comms
    1
  345. Thers no such sellers now airshow trade stands too expensive plus deaths and retirements from those who use to
    1
  346. At larger shows I'd sell a filler freq liste at £1 a sheet
    1
  347. I'd sell 300 at best 100 at worse at a big show but taking printer and paper and adding in new stuff updating was hard work and too much for me to continue
    1
  348. Not sure but I was probably the most arrested and most radios confiscated, but even though was still a very rare occurrence, and I did win as well as lose of get caress dropped etc
    1
  349. And it no just uk it's European wide
    1
  350. In end with my disabling issues all became too much and I only share a few things with others more privately but no one ever told me not to publish freqs and while had a few issue mostly were ok with government agencies and police
    1
  351. Yes 10 times or more arrested, 4 times cases dropped, 1 time magistrates praised me attacked the officer for his time and was acquitted, rest c lost radios but many times I coukd stand with police cutting to them and no arrest One time Buckingham Palace as was well known by royalty protection was told first day of Buckingham Palace opening up, to. Leave the queues by police royal. Protection, no arrest, no searches just leave the queue Another time officer at the gate told me men in black want to speak with Me and named Me as they'd seen me on camera, I waited and waited, asked when are they coming nd said he was joking When police had sttomo radios, was at Wimbledon and had passed on to Wimbledon security and police information ref ticket touts on 169.2625 radios, officers happily let me carry on listening to them
    1
  352. So had full. Lot arrests, fine, radios confiscated, radios given back as acquitted or cases dropped
    1
  353. And that was listening to royal protection and special branch
    1
  354. And that was listening to royal protection and special branch
    1
  355. I would be standing at local, accidents and incidents and sometimes police were too busy to lib o there radios and I'd say u can open the road now or other messages to the officers
    1
  356. I use anytone handheld can't recall model number but mostly sds100 sds200 ubc3600 uniden scanners lots of good stuff out there and still a fair bit of analogue as well, fire uhf still use analogue and dmr, always good to hear them still, then as said police and pcso on shop watch, pub watch cctv nets at times as well
    1
  357. This time of year military aircraft and farm radios are busy listens for me, as I type 5 repeaters vhf and 5 vhf single freqs of farners harvesting, many going past my flat in there tractors up and down
    1
  358. No its not
    1
  359. Our police went secure digital years ago by late 2000s all
    1
  360. Radio telegraph is just radio transmitter ie any freq be it police, air marine, commercial two way radio etc
    1
  361. Etc i use it home, I get airways and local Lower aircraft, I get users going by house, I get all sorts and then events I can get a good set up, say airshow by going to near control and getting sir and pmr freqs, even as said if digital
    1
  362. As for police well check cctv shop watch schemes, often police or pcso on there and in fact are much more interesting as well anyway even when no police or pcso on
    1
  363. But going to an even then close call is fantastic mostly though can get annoying if like at john ambulance freqs very busy non listening to, but hitting close call all the time so at tines close that band off or close close call
    1
  364. Serious they never really worried, earlier they did a bit but by time several uk scanning directory came out the old radio communication agency's Baldock monitoring station used scanning directory and my lists as w extras to monitor Was told because there lists aren't always upto date and many using freqs without licence wouod appear in scanning directory and my lists But I never had any issues never told by government to stop publishing freqs in all the years I did it
    1
  365. Sad even governments website listing freqs has a mix of old unused and current licences so even that's not fully accurate, but it's ano5her good resource But close call on uniden especially events and sites is fantastic on scanners, finds the freqs and give the audio, and as said on the digital scanners will decode non encrypted stuff as well Take imperial war Duxford museum, on site vhf air, display teams vhf and uhf coms, the sites own uhf repeaters and non dmr singles as well, you would find modt freqs relative quickly on such a site, and 3ven better if using a dmr scanner Last year Swiss version of red arrows there, stood by tower as guy on ground spoke to them and straight away a new freq for them I hadn't had then checked in on another, close call hit the freqs as being used
    1
  366. There junior cadets also. Use business radio hired analogue ctcss 131.8 hz 456.3875 repeater 461.8875 input at events still, before airwaves they used ch7 uhf 451. 325
    1
  367. U cant legally listrn unless u have a legitimate reason ie pilot can listrn to his local, airfield if about to fly but he can't sit there on Airways frews, however take any military Base or civil airport or airshow and we scan volume full blast even technically broadcasting and no one cares
    1
  368. Same law is for civil and military air, we aren't legally allowed but definitely tolerated and publishing freqs military or civil tolerated as indeed publishing scanning freqs is also tolerated
    1
  369. Go to raf mildenhall, lakenheath, valley, marham, Waddington well any base and you'll find people standing there scanners on speakers full blast taking to mod police, usaf base police, pilots, crews, and anyone else However don't broadcast the audio over Internet that's the one they tend not to like
    1
  370. ​ @RingwayManchester yes I listen to all sorts and dmr, nexedge pmr systems, most are not enc, in fact recently noticing things that had been enc major London events have gone back dmr non enc, winter wonderland, nye London and nye parade all this year dmr but non enc
    1
  371. We can be open listening more at airports, military bases, and even more at airshows but we are still illegal and therfore could upset the licence holders As sais dj audits takes scanner and seems to think, anything not enc, is pmr and legal to listen too, which it isn't he's been to sites where ofcom database show licensed freqs not pmr446, so he's breaking the law and then telling them and police hey I'm. Listening in your using non encrypted freqs do I can listen in Sorry but that's ridiculous and could give that site a reason to get you arrested and charged
    1
  372.  @CranehawkPilot  yes that too is ok, but say your sitting down a pilot with radio licence from CAA you can't just go and legally listen to anything on civil air of course no one cares about listing to military or civil airband illegally but they do come down on putting online audio, why live atc and scanner online don't have uk stuff
    1
  373. But we non pilots are breaking the law whether military air or civil or marine, or fire brigade, events, fillming, private company shop and pub watch schemes but of course we do and we share freqs and as said publishing freqs for many years now authority hasn't ever bothered
    1
  374. One case at bow street magistrates I spoke up for myself and judge was impressed with my knowledge on it, he admonished the officer for bringing it to court, I was listening to protection freqs nr Whitehall when a major summit was going on, sat discreet but had to change batteries in park and hadn't noticed officer coming by me Wasn't fined praised by judge but he had to follow met police wanting radios confiscated
    1
  375. As said we added freqs to database made public, I did files on royal family and government callsign and we had no trouble at all on that On here METPOL 701 my id, that's the callsign for every prime minister, every monarch is purple 1
    1
  376. Charles was purple 45 as pow, Anne purple 7
    1
  377. I was getting brown envelopes from police radio engineers, police controllers, serving officers, raf and mod, radio communications agency enforcers callsign channels freqs
    1
  378. Though in fact much I had worked out myself like the main u uhf channels standard home office set up, with some regional differances, old storno met vhf robbery squad, seg, protection channels simplex looted in 147 mhz so when I got a full storno ch list it matched mostly what I had guessed, I found uhf protection 450 mhz etc sane way Ch32 451.95 ch33 452.4 knew firearms 452.375 so said ok who else is 451.975 to 452.. 35 sure enough shook hands with Edward millennium eve at southbank and got protection on 451.975 mhz another one added to my database
    1
  379. Ch7 451 325 though cid ops was also protection as well, even ex president Clinton out guys were in ch7 and mi5 hq surveillance, fire brigade had 451. 4 but at time of saw nimrod the siege they were told to use other channels, in other wires SAS were using 451. 4 on the Iranian embassy siege Was so good gleaning information in the old days Even today protection forget if on another event net like Farnborough airshow dmr where I had metpol701A and e on 457 mhz event net from outside the airfield and inside with pm position and where next etc, they hadn't realised they were on non secure radios
    1
  380. Yes u will there's an extensive 444 mha and 455 mhz and other freqs, they've migrated more to dmr enc from dmr and befire that ctcss but I'm led yo believe some are still there and lots at riat will be on those again all current 455 are licensed to rafbf and in uk government database avaliable to public, but the 444 are only for the event using mod freqs
    1
  381. ​ @RingwayManchester better to take a dmr radio scanner as some of the links 455 453, and 444 last year were in clear but more and more each year enc
    1
  382. I use to sell on a stand full freq lists of riat in those days civil. Police channels display teams, air show, base airband, raf police, tower re broadcast for vehicle bedding to cross runways but now that's much less in the clear dmr for a hood freq years and funnily enough raf police akways used the 444 in clear, but now much of the dmr of about 30 freqs at riat are enc but not all
    1
  383. Also u Need a uhf airband scanner especially for squadron freqs and display teams
    1
  384. Wee used bc245 and others some radio, shack as well
    1
  385. Shpikd be 455.525 not 515 one of Heathrow freqs rebroadcast
    1
  386. No dmr isn't encrypted in uk, in my local town bae, m da defence as examples are in clear, the only enc dmr nr mr is gkaxo, cctv locally padding information in towns of crime day and night is dmr but analogue
    1
  387. Remeber 270. 15 is main raf qra freq
    1
  388. 454 455 I don't ever recall that stadiums tended to be 450 mhz not known any on 455 454
    1
  389. 131.8 hz ctcss events and incidents along with uhf 19 23 25
    1
  390. 147 am or fm depending on county set up motorcycle escorts 147.875 9125, but fm by seg in London then higher ones used still by tsg van to van even during metradio days u coukd gear tag van to van comms on 147, then also. Other special, users up there too The air to gnd got the old spare uhf channels ch88 89 etc
    1
  391. Yes before metradio the storno chs aboce the station channels, 147.4875 147.5 147.525 etc
    1
  392. Sussex police cadets use a business allocation with the 131.8 hz they use to use ch7 451.325 and therss was same tone
    1
  393. Also while metradio was in use, the ugd stadium 450 mhz channels were still, active, along with 455 hunter delta Heathrow and other non trunk channels
    1
  394. So 455 def used by hunter delta Heathrow as the CAA band for the other airport channels
    1
  395. The 138 were used in counties as well
    1
  396. There was simplex 75 and dual 76 usually same freq but had input as well
    1
  397. But on scene most latterly used ch88 89 I think, 4 or 5 near each other to talk to gnd units
    1
  398. CH88 450.625 CH89 450.675 CH92 451.150 UNCONFIRMED CH93 452.150 CH94 452.100 CH95 452.000 CH96 452.050 CH6 451.300 Rare 450.7625 Rare
    1
  399. Ch76 452.375 466.275 but they also had a metradio talk group later
    1
  400. Just a few stadium channels none seemed to be 455 though ARSENAL FC AFC 450.050 464.050 71.9 HZCHELSEA FC CFC 450.050 464.050 82.5 HZSUTTON FC ZT-FC 450.050 464.050 103.5 HZTOTTENHAM FC SPURS 450.075 464.075 71.9 HZWIMBLEDON FC DONS 450.075 464.075 82.5 HZMILLWALL FC LIONS 450.075 464.075 94.8 HZTWICKENHAM RFC RFU 450.075 464.075 110.9 HZLORDS CC LORDS 450.075 464.075 103.5 HZWEST HAM FC HAMMER 450.125 464.125 71.9 HZQPR FC QPR 450.125 464.125 82.5 HZBARNET FC SA-FC 450.125 464.125
    1
  401. Yes to 464 as most inputs as the pair output was 450 mhz
    1
  402. Preferably a dmr capable radio, they still use the analogue 457 450 freqs but dmr used the most
    1
  403. Birmingham Airport as with rnas Yeovilton both had a scanner up and running on speaker official so guess that is authority in a way but only on what they have set up, they could still not like what your listening to
    1
  404. On your scanner that is but therss with just a few in ok
    1
  405. Not totally true at bow streets mc once, after listening to special branch and royal protection from a park in Westminster, unlucky as officer came past lol Anyway I said that was just a hobby and can't recall what else, was told thanks for such an interesting talk about this, and he sent me away, orfsreed return of radios and told the police officer off for wasting courts time
    1
  406. They don't have a repeater but last 40 years 169.275 fm, which when an incident happens as wiyh many airfield they immediately switch in tower On 169.275 atc, crash etc
    1
  407. The uhf marine is well used by Cruise ships and container ships on board radio comms repeaters and single
    1
  408. Icom r15 no digital, sorry icom start making digital radios u can't keep marketing old radios with no digital, uniden are the best, but aor have one good handheld dv10, and of course older whistlers as they don't operate any more, but dmr, nexedge a must in uk, dpmr I have on my unidens but so far no. Onr seems to use dpmr, so not a major need at present Apco 25 as well though mostky secure in uk usaf bases there are some in clear as well,
    1
  409. BTW the detailed stuff 9nly went to a few close friends most got basic lists not the detail
    1
  410. Publishing freqs except in late 70s early 80s generally been ignored both uksd and proma scanning group and database never had legal, trouble and today still very accurate military and civil airband guides like ukafg 2024, and there website has online searchable database with map of ofcom frequency database, even there though old freqs incorrect or updated by newer licence So a mix of what people share and using ofcom database is best, of course close call capable scanners with dmr, and nexedge etc even better
    1
  411. Most dmr and nexedge are not secure, or enc, so digital is still very much good in uk
    1
  412. Whistler dropped there new models 3 years ago since then nothing new, uniden still production new dmr, nexedge and digital scanners and now alinco as well, usa sales are differant to uk eu in usa they listrn to police mostky, In eu, UK we listrn to lots more both digital, and analog and in uk I can only say very little is encrypted outside policr etc Majority of dmr users are analogue most cctv who and pub watches, large events and sites are in the clear but yes dmr
    1
  413. Then we even have fire brigade uhf still to listen t,o, and even police at times in event nets, this year's London wonderland is non encrypted 448.98125 dmr after several years enc, there's other freqs as well but that one is an Westminster events net sited on hotel in park. Lane and shows on ofcom website
    1
  414. We never had any trouble publishing freqs or certainly not by the 90s I believe as Ringway has said before some were in trouble prior to that, I never had any issues with proma and rca or later ofcom
    1
  415. In fact ofcom and rca Baldock monitor station used my database as well as there own for policing the radio waves
    1
  416. Not only did I see a printout at a visit to Baldock monitoring station, uk, scanning directory and varuother books with freqs, was told by a member who was ex rca about how useful my database was
    1
  417. Yes hadcrunin with police at times but majority of interactions were all OK, but yes a few prosecution along the way
    1