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This is a very well-informed comment. I have no idea how it ended up in this thread full of flag-waving homophobic trash. Especially hilarious are the multiple posters denouncing him for saying the car lacked broad appeal, put up by posters who said it AFTER the car was already discontinued for poor sales.
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Because it didn't sell, and because GM felt forced to follow Ford's lead in dumping all sedans, trying to compete with Tesla for stock investors' money by portraying itself as a future-focused and high-margin "tech" company. (No, it doesn't make any sense to me either.)
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@Buc_Stops_Here Sort of. The ES competes with the 3 Series in price, but it's actually roomier than the Lexus GS. Where the ES falls short is in handling and mechanical sophistication because of its humble FWD Camry/Avalon roots, and that's where the GS stepped up more favorably against its price competitor the 5 Series.
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@naveenthemachine This is ludicrous for more reasons and features than it's worth it to mention here. But for the record, yes, the top ES models have ambient lighting.
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@naveenthemachine This is ludicrous, just like all the dozens of Genesis fanboi posts you've been pecking out as a Camry owner sitting in mom's basement for over a year now. Don't you ever start to get embarrassed, Naveen?
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N you didn't take it when it was offered, as the Lexus GS. It was outsold by the ES, 20 to 1, when Lexus mercy-killed it. Turns out Americans didn't want to pay extra for technology without a German badge.
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@phillyspitta8147 Yeah, but those GS's were really pricey too.
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I do find that a head-scratcher.
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@naveenthemachine Naveen, you've posted the same falsehoods on multiple reviews, even though you've been corrected over and over again. You own a Camry, so Lexus is no better. Genesis is the great god and Lexus is dying. Blah, blah, blah. For the record, the Camry, Avalon and ES share different versions of the same platform, with Avalon and ES being the same size. Stop it.
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There is no Ultra Luxury F Sport. It's either/or. No F Sport gives you leather upholstery, sound-insulating front door glass, or some other Ultra Luxury features. No Ultra Luxury gives you the moving gauge cluster, the F Sport style buckets, or the option of the adaptive variable suspension.
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History proved him right. Even the targeted audience of older Buy American types spurned this car, which is why Buick killed it off less than 6 months after his review. P.S. I'm old too, and even I can't get all worked up about his wardrobe. Raiti's Rides always reviews in shorts -- did you post that complaint about him?
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Huh?
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It might have survived if it'd had a price to match. Car and Driver agreed it was grossly overpriced.
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@ONI1013. B&O isn't a system, it's just a brand name, just like the ML name covers numerous different stereos. Which B&O, in which car?
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And I'll bet you're not 5.7 inches.
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I'm GLAD he takes the attitude he does. If he did what you want, he'd do a favor to the carmaker. The way he does it instead, he does a service to us viewers. What would we learn if he felt obligated to praise every car he reviewed?
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@bluwng The clear implication of your comment that "People let you review cars. You are such a bitch" is that he should be grateful that he was loaned a test car, and therefore should praise it. If that's not what your comment meant, you tell me: What else DID it mean? You're either lying or stupid. Which is it?
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Don't do that, please. You're endangering others.
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Yeah, this guy was so stupid that the car he criticized as out of date went out of production less than 6 months later. What does he know, anyway?
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He obviously wasn't alone. This car got killed 5 months after he reviewed it for poor U.S. sales.
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So I see you're a vulgar, bigoted jerk who's down to killing time by watching YouTube content he doesn't even like. P.S. I happen to be straight, but if I were gay, you wouldn't be my type -- I don't go for insecure limp guys.
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You are factually incorrect, unfortunately. Neither the Lacrosse (a rebranded Epsilon II Chevy Impala) nor the Regal (a rebranded German Opel insignia) came anywhere close to the long-term reliability and durability of comparable Lexus models. Not according to Consumer Reports, nor according to Dashboard Light.
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"When really it's a slightly lower class (than luxury)." But that was the problem with the Avenir: It was priced against real luxury cars. He's not the only one who said it. Car and Driver said it too.
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@nintendork900 I agree, 900. And an even bigger problem is that those higher-priced products aren't sufficiently better to convince people they're worth the money. Cadillac's sedans and midsize SUVs have this problem big-time. You can't sell cars as "luxury" when reviewers are comparing the interior to a hard-plastic-lined Malibu.
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Well, Lexus was in the name of the review. And history proved him right: Lexus has passed the test of time since this video, and the LaCrosse did not. And while the ES may be an overpriced Camry, that proved more appealing to buyers than an equally ovepriced Impala.
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Yes, this was an Impala. And yes, GM uses an awful, awful lot of cheap Chinese parts.
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"Amateur"? This guy has nearly 950,000 subscribers. How many do you have?
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Cadillac really doesn't try to be Cadillac anymore. Other than the Escalade, they've spent the last decade or so chasing the Germans.
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I don't like the idea either, but the Luxury and Ultra Luxury trims of the ES do have very nice semi-aniline leather.
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@naveenthemachine Naveen, you've already exposed yourself in dozens of previous posts as an embarrassed Camry owner living in your mom's basement. Besides, 360 camera, AWD and pano roof are in fact available on different ES trims.
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As it turns out, pretty much nobody in America.
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And they did. Less than 6 months later, the LaCrosse was killed off for poor sales. it's been 3 years now -- got time to post an apology to the guy?
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Regular.
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Uh, turns out his "misperception" about this Buick sedan was 100% correct. Apology?
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Why did you end rather than begin your criticism of this review by admitting you're completely biased? That's 30 seconds of my life that I'll never get back.
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@naveenthemachine Except that unlike dying Infiniti, Lexus is still satisfying customers, selling vehlcies and making money. Naveen, you've told this lying non-comparison and been corrected multiple times before. Just stop it.
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Turned out he wasn't the only one who didn't find the LaCrosse was "not to his liking." And he wasn't alone in questioning the price/value equation, either; Car and Driver came right out and said it, too.
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Has anybody ever told you that you're a bigoted assho!e? Let me be the 481st.
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@sc666666 Yes. For 30 years, the ES has always had an added trapezoidal brace behind the rear seatback, and only a ski pass-through as a result. Evidently Lexus feels that luxury sedan / sport sedan buyers value the ride, handling and NVH benefits of a stiffer chassis more than cargo versatility. Of course, the Germans deliver both, but they have dedicated luxury-car chassis — Lexus's ability to build their car on humble family-sedan bones is why they can deliver a price advantage.
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Uh... as a warning to others?
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No, actually the GS was a class up, an international sport sedan like the BMW 5 Series. The Lexus in this class is the ES, still going strong 4 years after the LaCrosse's death.
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No, that was the Regal. This was a Chevy Impala with Buick logos.
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Turns out you weren't alone.
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You might think it was a Lexus until the timing chain failed.
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Would you have been as shocked if he loved it just as much? I thought he was quite fair. Objectively, this car was overpriced (C/D came right out and said it), and history proves it was an abject and immediate sales failure. The value for money simply wasn't there.
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Extra points for the Python reference. :.) You'll get your powertrain wish in '25.
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Glad you didn't sign your real name to this comment, because it really is embarrassingly bigoted and stupid.
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That's because it mechanically was virtually the same car. Cadillac XTS, ditto.
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Because that would have been impolite. :.)
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Like the LaCrosse did?
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Dunno. Could you be any more homophobic? Doubt it.
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@GG-pu8rt IMHO, the NuLuxe is perfectly nice, but the leather is nicer. It feels more luxurious, and it has that divine leather smell.
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Probably to have a family resemblance to its sister model the Regal, which actually WAS the Opel Insignia.
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This car was discontinued for poor sales less than 6 months after he said it didn't appeal to a broad enough range of buyers. You may not like his "manliness," not that he should give a crap what you think about that, but history quickly proved him right and you wrong.
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Obsolete style, obsolete tech, milking a few last sales to old buyers based on brand equity built up by superior previous models.
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But you CAN get the pano roof on the Luxury and Ultra Luxury, which have nicer interiors and a better ride anyway. Reviewers like Savagegeese have said outright that the F Sport suspension makes no sense on this car because it spoils the creamy ride quality without the handling gains to justify it.
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Turns out you weren't alone.
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Thank you for this post. Unlike some of these others, at least you backed up your opinion with facts.
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@johnhenry267 Another reason is that Buick has a history in China as a brand preferred long ago by diplomats.
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The GS drives better. Test drive the ES, and I mean at demanding speeds, before you switch.
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@SIDVENOM Legit point. FWD road manners don't compare to RWD or RWD-based AWD. The GS didn't sell well enough to survive, but we who care about road manners miss it.
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@SIDVENOM I'm no expert. But based on your own comment, a reason you'd sell is to get out of outdated tech, so the GS F won't scratch that itch. Aside from that, the IS is a much smaller car inside, so be sure you're comfortable with that before you trade.
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A lot of critics and even a lot of LS owners don't really love the LS. It's a massive car a foot longer, yet without a lot more room. Its gas mileage (on premium) and maneuverability in town are worse, and it's less reliable with much, much higher repair costs. You might be better off right where you are.
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As it turns out, not enough of them.
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Same price, same size, similar specs, same target audience.
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@naveenthemachine Yes, Naveen, we know from your countless previous Genesis fanboi posts. For the record, there is no G80 version that has even 400 HP, let alone 500. And everybody, including Genesis, is turning to SUVs because that's what buyers are buying.
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This comment is incredible. You rip this guy a new one in late 2022 for saying 4 years ago that this car was out of date, even though you know he was proven right when the car was discontinued for poor sales 5 MONTHS AFTER HE SAID IT. I think you just take personally that you're old and you think he's calling you out. Well, I'm old too. Get over it.
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Well, you got your way: Buick will no longer give him a car to test. Of course, they no longer have one to sell to anyone else in America, either. You can still book a trip to China for a test drive, though.
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Get the XTS. It's the same car.
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Yes, they did.
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You kinda have it backwards, I think. Chance are he will never buy it because it's a car that causes him to complain about it, not necessarily the other way around. He was interested enough to give it a full test drive, wasn't he?
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And the Stupidest Bigot Poster of the Last 4 Years award goes to...
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Actually, Hyundai had a car very much like this in the Azera, and that car died off from poor sales except in Asia, just like the LaCrosse did. So, I doubt it.
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And this is a stale half-true post.
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Clearly your theory was right, although in truth, no ES can match the better balance of the now-deceased AWD GS.
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