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That's not really true, because the Bible never remotely implies that Cain offered leftovers. Cain's attitude had a lot more to do with his offering being rejected than what he offered. God also implies in Gen. 4:7 that the way he went about producing his offering was sinful. Cain did not "do well", so his offering was rejected.
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@g.1260 No Jew wrote Genesis. Jews didn't exist as a ppl until about 500 years after Moses' death when the nation of Israel split into 2 individual kingdoms with their own rulers and religions. Moses was a Levite .
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Adam and Eve were not created in a perfect state. That's Catholic dogma. The 2 of them were basically morally blank slates that were told to choose between God's way or Satan's way. It was impossible for them to be created in a perfect state. If that were true, God wouldn't have had to offer the tree of life to them.
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Satan was not telling the truth. He made it seem as if God was purposefully trying to deny them wisdom, and the reality is that God gave the command to protect them from destroying themselves by operating according to their own reasoning. That's why He offered them the tree of life. If they had chose to eat from the tree of life instead, they would have ironically gained the kind of knowledge that they coveted.
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You're asking the wrong questions. Instead of asking why God makes flawed beings, you should ask why human beings consistently choose to live contrary to God's laws. It is not His fault that this world is the way it is. This world is the way it is because of choices that we have made as a species. God gave us the way to peace through His law, but we reject it because we think our way is better.
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Judaism and Jesus are opposites. The problem with your logic is that Judaism is not connected with Christianity in any way. Like most ppl, you assume that Judaism was the religion God established through Moses, and it's not. God established Torahism . This is what Jesus practiced and preached, and it is completely antithetical to Judaism. Judaism was the religion of the Pharisees and Sadducees, and it is based on rejecting God's laws and the prophets.
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You seem to be confusing the book of Judges with the book of the Kings, but the rest is certainly true. The difference though, is that it isn't intellectually trendy in America to accept the notion that we are being cursed for rejecting God's commandments, and that we will continue to be cursed until we do the opposite.
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@dominicadrean2160 It's not ridiculous, because there are plenty of non-trinitarian groups and churches in the professing Christian world. Not all professing Christians subscribe to the trinity, especially because the Bible doesn't demand that anyone believes in it. In fact, John's gospel account and epistles were partly written to oppose that doctrine because it did so much damage in his time.
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@am3818 God doesn't chose actors to play Him on screen because it is against God's law for Him to be physically portrayed in ANY way. God does not contradict Himself or His own way of life for any reason. That's part of what makes Him better than humans. We rationalize all the time that it's ok to do something that's bad for a "greater good", but God doesn't operate like that.
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There was more to the situation than what they did or didn't offer. A lot of readers tend to overlook the attitude in which they presented their offerings. The narrative places more of an emphasis on their attitude than what they actually offered. Cain's attitude wasn't right, and it didn't escape God's attention.
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@daves-c8919 Because Satan has set himself up to willfully oppose God in any way he can, including attacking His followers. Just before His arrest, Christ stated that Satan has been judged. Lucifer crossed the point of no return the moment he rebelled against his Maker.
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Calling yourself a Christian and not believing Christ is God is contradictory. The whole foundation of the belief that Christ died for the sins of the world is predicated on the fact that it is possible because He is God. If He isn't God, then there is no point in anybody being a Christian since nobody's sins can ever be truly forgiven. In which case, every human being that has ever lived is doomed to be burned in the lake of fire.
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Satan can't do anything that God hasn't allowed. Satan is the ruler of this world, but he is still subservient to God's sovereign authority because he is a created being. Gen. 3 bears out the fact that Satan wasn't even allowed to go near Adam or Eve until God allowed it.
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@lucasalexandre7231 That's just it: Paul used the phrase "are to come", not "was to come". Ppl like to read the latter into that passage, even though the phrase "are to come" means they foreshadow future events that have yet to be fulfilled. And since that is the case, that means they have a present obligation. They won't be fulfilled until the Judgement Day period is over.
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Paul warned about using this kind of logic in Col. 2:8 : "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ ." The trinitarian attempts to validate their belief via philosophy is precisely why Paul gave this warning. The trinity is philosophical deceit that comes from this world, and not Christ.
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Both Covenants are conditional. A covenant is basically a contract where 2 or more parties agree on to do x,y, or z. If the Christian obeys God and believes what He says, God will do His part. That's how biblical Christianity works.
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Adherents of traditional Christianity don't understand the First Testament or believe it. If they did, they wouldn't be observing pagan festivals that they call Christian, they wouldn't reject the true Christian festivals in Lev. 23 that God said is to be observed forever among His followers, and they wouldn't treat the First Testament as just being history. The fact that their religion is divided into hundreds of sects show that they don't understand it.
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@maverick7291 Wrong. Paul tells us in Rom. 8 that the children of God have His Spirit. The Jews, for the most part, do not. The Jews being part of God's chosen nation doesn't automatically make them brothers or fellow children of God. Jesus told the Jews in John that the children of Abraham would do the works of Abraham and believe that He is who He said He is. As it stands, neither applies to the Jews currently.
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God was powerful enough create squirrels with the ability to breathe fire and speak with human words, but that doesn't mean God designed them that way. God being omnipotent doesn't somehow prove the trinity is possible or true. If anything, the trinity ironically puts limits on God's abilities, and trinitarians consistently fail to realize it because they don't believe what the Bible has to say about God building a Family.
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It is an angel that tells John not to worship him. Get the facts straight.
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Even if Jordan was a believer, it doesn't make him a Christian. There is a gigantic difference between the 2 things. A believer is a fan of whatever version of Christ suits their fancy. A Christian is someone who follows the example of the biblical Christ, does what He commanded, and believes what He taught.
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This argument is a giant fail because (1)apostolic Christianity was(and still is) a Torah keeping religion, minus the animal sacrifices (2) Judaism is not based on the Torah. It is based on oral laws and traditions that were not recorded in the Torah. Christ's whole problem with Judaism is that it was based on elevating these traditions above God's laws.
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Job didn't fall short of blaming God. He outright accused God of punishing him for no justifiable reason(Job 27:2, 30:21, 34:5, 35:2). God clapped back at him the way He did in chapters 38:1-40:2 because Job was presumptuous enough to accuse God of being guilty of injustice by his own standards.
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@jonnyw82 God used Satan to correct Job. Yes, the opening part of the account says Job was righteous, but Job's self-righteousness clearly starts to manifest itself the longer he was made to suffer. Out of everybody there, Elihu was the one to discern that this was the cause of Job's suffering.
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Trinitarians can't understand the trinity or explain it biblical. They either twist passages out of context or insist that ppl believe it it's true, even though the doctrine itself wasn't taught by any faithful follower of God in scripture.
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@markallen2984 Theologians making guesses based on their assumptions do not equate to having the same authority as God. The Bible does not show God viewing the past, present, and future existing as the same thing. That is theological hogwash.
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@shikyokira3065 The "Christian" trinity was invented because no prophet or apostle of God has ever taught such a doctrine.
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The trinity is pagan nonsense, but the Bible DOES show Christ saying He is God.
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Isa. 1:18 says otherwise: "“Come now, and let us reason together ,” says the LORD, though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be as wool." I've said it before, and i'll say it here: God is a logical Being. The entire universe and everything else He created was don so with logic. Therefore, anything that has truly been revealed by God in the Bible must also be logical.
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@jean-baptistegrenouille3692 Anyone who worships a being that suffers from a personality disorder is either certifiably insane or suffering from a massive case of cognitive dissonance. There is no reason to believe it because the scriptures simply don't teach it anywhere.
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@cavalier2097 This is unequivocally false, as the Most High God and the Word didn't become Father and Son until the Word became a human being. That's one of the bigger reasons why the trinity can easily be proven to be a demonstrably false doctrine. The Bible itself shows that Christ pre-existed as the Word. He was NOT always the Son. The Son had a beginning, as Jhn 1 clearly teaches.
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God is a Being. The Bible describes Him as having the same physical features as humans do since we were made in His likeness. God is not "a force". A force cannot speak, write, walk, or laugh.
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Protestants don't understand the Bible any more than Jordan or Dennis does.
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Then why do atheists have no problems believing in evolution, even though there is absolutely no credible evidence for it? It takes a lot more faith to believe that everything came to exist without an Intelligent Being than it does to believe that said Being created everything.
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You feel uneasy simply because you don't want to prove to yourself for absolutely certainty whether God exists or not. If He exists, then it would put you in a position to have to admit that there is a moral authority that is infinitely greater than your own. You're not alone in this regard, because most professing Christians hadn't even really proved for themselves that God exists either.
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This is pretty ignorant considering the religion that acted like the Taliban was not truly Christian at all. As far as the world is concerned, Catholicism is Christian. However, according to the Bible and everything God has to say about it, it is the devil's religion. At no point in the history of mankind did true Christianity ever gain enough influence or political power to persecute. Its followers spent their entire existence being persecuted.
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The trinity makes God sound like megazord from Power Rangers or Voltron where parts come together to make 1 all powerful being. It's as ludicrous as it is unbiblical.
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It still doesn't make any sense because Christ has established the fact that He and the Father are 2 independent Beings that exist apart from each other. Christ has never mentioned the Father as being a different part of the same Being. A person never confuses a human son and their father as being different manifestations of a singular being, so why do that with God?
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@ThePaperShogun The Bible is not "littered with references to the trinity". Jhn 1:1 only describes 2 Beings called "God' that have existed for eternity: the Word and the Most High God.
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@TheRayanKhan God has very plainly revealed who and what He is in the Bible. The problem is that ppl reject what God has to say because their traditions are a lot more important to them than the truth. Orthodox Jews and adherents of traditional Christianity can't accept what the Bible as to say because they don't want to admit that their religion is wrong.
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@mr.horrorchild4094 For starters, they pretend that Trump can do no wrong, even though a lot of what he says and does contradict the very Bible that his evangelical supporters claim to believe in. The Bible to them is less of an authoritative book and more of a political prop to support Trumpism.
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@illbeyourmonster1959 God is not a human being, so any attempt at framing this perspective in a way that says God should operate like a human being is terribly shortsighted. Your inability to understand why God is the way He is doesn't mean He's bad. It means you lack the vision and wisdom it takes to see what He sees.
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A living person does NOT have a soul. And furthermore, the soul and the human spirit are not other persons within the human being. The scriptures teach that a living person IS a soul, and that the human spirit is an essence that provides material understanding, just like Holy Spirit is an essence that provides spiritual understanding.
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The Tanakh doesn't teach in a single passage that God's love was conditional. Did Israel have to do something in order for God to love them enough to rescue them from Egyptian slavery? No. He did it because of grace. God's grace was present throughout the Tanakh just as much as it is now.
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Well, the Bible never states or implies that such a thing ever happened. The Bible says the Word was sent to become a human being. It doesn't say God ripped off a piece of Himself, named it "the Word", and made it become a human being.
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The "God" in this passages is referring to the Father. Jesus went elaborated on this later on in John where He says that nobody has ever seen Him or heard His voice.
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That's modalism.
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God wasn't trying to fix everything with a flood because He wants ppl to learn that living according to His laws is the only way that will truly fix their problems. The Flood happened so ppl would have another opportunity to learn that lesson without Him having to wipe us all out.
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God operating outside the confines of human understanding isn't the same thing as Him operating outside reason or logic.
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This argument defies all logic and basic science because steam, ice, and water cannot exist as all 3 things at once. Trintarian attempts to explain the doctrine ironically ends up being the best reason to reject the doctrine.
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