Comments by "Tracie Nielson" (@tracienielson7183) on "What's Inside the World's Most Secret Church" video.

  1.  @Sajayyz  Ok. So someone who gives a detailed, articulate description of their thoughts or beliefs must be a paid propagandist? For whatever reason, people are fascinated by how much money the LDS Church has. These same people seldom talk about how that money is used. The Church has donated billions of dollars in money, goods, food, time, etc. Charitable work goes on all over the world nonstop. Also, disaster relief is a major expense as well.
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  2.  @jamietomas1550  Nope. Outsiders finding our practices strange does not make us a cult. This discussion proves the lack of secrecy. It does prove that people are rude, flippant, and disrespectful to things they don't understand but feel qualified to bash anyway.
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  3. The body dies, but the spirit lives on. You'll see your Grandpa again.
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  4.  @jamietomas1550  Specify those claims, please.
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  5.  @machine123e456  We're speaking of the difference between salvation and exaltation.
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  6. I won't squirm, I'll just say that's private. It's a weird thing to bring up. It's like 5 seconds of a ceremony. The Temple is a place for an individual to do their own ordinances and then ordinances for their family. It's all about returning to God and family.
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  7.  @axoid The reason President Nelson wants us to use the official name, is because we are emphasizing Jesus Christ and as LDS, we are living in the last days.
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  8. After it's finished, but before it's dedicated, there will be an open house. You could take a tour if you like.
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  9.  @NightmareRex6  You should research what this "wealthy church" does with it's tithing money. Our charitable and reliefs efforts are extensive. It's also expensive building and maintaining the churches and temples. Money is not acquired for the sake of wealth. It's acquired to do God's work.
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  10. Not even close
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  11. Yes, you've been gone a long time. You definitely need a refresher on each point.
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  12.  @axoid  This is no secret. I knew this the first time I attended the Temple for myself. How many people do you know with the same name? If this is your big gotcha, you're just being sad at this point.
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  13.  @axoid  The Church is lead by Jesus Christ. We are at the end of the last dispensation. Priorities are changing. We need to emphasize Jesus now, more than ever.
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  14. If we're performing ordinances that take us back to God and family, why would we summon a demon. Why would we summon a demon anyway?
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  15.  @rhy8336  Temple work is an offering. The dead can either accept or reject.
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  16.  @katelynwinder6670  You really need to do some more research. The Temple covenants are not with the Church. God will respect your agency to leave the Church. The faithful will be with their families. Again, a choice. We have to remember and respect that choices have consequences. I believe that after it's all said and done, everyone will understand and accept God's decisions of who goes where.
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  17. yuck
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  18.  @jamietomas1550  Like a cult of anti-cultists.
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  19.  @ru95  I have no problem claiming my membership in the LDS Church. Now, let's see ru95's reasons for his disparaging description.
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  20.  @ru95  Knock it off. Actually, I hope you can convert soon. We have a beautiful, Christ-centered, family-oriented belief system that will bring great comfort and peace to those who live the Gospel principles.
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  21.  @axoid  You can read the disrespect in the comments. Why would we feed the bigotry? Why would a non-LDS perspective be more interesting? It would probably be wrong. Why are people so fascinated with garments? They are a reminder of a covenant between the individual and God. That covenant is personal and not intended for the public, like the garment.
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  22.  @axoid  The LDS perspective is the only one that counts since it's our beliefs. The disrespect in the comments indicates more bigotry than interest. I'm not sure most people want to be educated. They just want something else to bash us with.
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  23. Yes, let's go to the ex-mos for the most accurate, unbiased take on LDS beliefs.
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  24.  @CantTellYou  Maybe. It's not really relevant. Not only would Hitler have to accept the proxy, but God would as well.
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  25.  @LongJourneys  The ordinance means nothing unless you accept it. If you don't, no problem.
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  26.  @LongJourneys  Stop it. Nobody's raping you. If you don't want to accept the ordinance, then don't.
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  27. The Nicene Creed was man made.
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  28.  @marcusaustralius2416  That's your opinion which you're entitled to. The real question is one of authority (Priesthood). We believe the Priesthood authority was lost and restored. We don't recognize the infallibility of the "Ecumenical Council". We believe in God, his son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. We believe them to be 3 separate personages, but one in purpose.
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  29. Not every word from a Prophet's mouth is a prophetic utterance. They are allowed to have their own opinions.
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  30.  @gordon3186  We take what is said in Conference and the Church publications as official.
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  31. Cult, cult blah. That word gets thrown out a lot, but never backed up.
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  32. We've heard it all...cult, magic underwear, Freemasonry, yada yada.
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  33. Having same-sex attraction does not disqualify you for exhalation. Having a temptation is not the same as acting on the temptation.
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  34. Yuck
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  35. prove it
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  36. Nope
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  37. Next time there's an open house...go. Separation of church and state includes the money. What the gov taxes, it can control. That's a violation of the 1A.
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  38. And people wonder why we don't want to talk about sacred things.
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  39. Why? Because gov does such a great job handling money? The LDS church has spent billions in charitable aid and disaster relief all over the world. I'm guessing you're not a fan of the 1A?
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  40. yuck
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  41. You mean peaceful?
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  42.  @jacobopstad5483  What? We don't truly understand the purpose of the name. What difference does it make? How many people do you know with the name Jacob? Does it make you any less of a Jacob?
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  43.  @axoid  It's on Google because some members have broken their covenants.
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  44.  @axoid  People make mountains out of mole hills. I received my endowment in the same session as my cousin. So, I knew this from day one. What's the big deal? We don't even know if the name is permanent or exactly how it will come into play later. Is this really all it takes to make you question your faith? It reminds reminds me of Matthew 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
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  45. Clean, white, artwork...yep, that's weird.
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  46. We use the King James Version, which has only one God.
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  47.  @Vibeagain  ?
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  48.  @Hideyoshi1991  We will be resurrected with perfected bodies.
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  49. The LDS Church has a YT channel, website, magazines, BYU tv. Check it out. You'd be surprised how much the "secretest church" shares with the world.
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  50.  @Persun_McPersonson  It's not so much about keeping knowledge secret as casting pearls before swine. No, I'm not calling non-members swine. It means we don't want sacred things thrown out to be twisted and ridiculed. Some things should be approached with reverence.
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  51.  @Charistoph  Persun is not being sincere. He refers to our fantastical beliefs. His knickers are in a twist because he's curious and wants ammo to make more snarky remarks. I wouldn't waste more time on this person.
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  52. Specific reasons, please.
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  53. As they should be. If there's going to be separation of church and state, that should also include the money.
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  54. Where are you getting this? We do charitable works all over the world. We donate heavily during natural disasters. We don't limit our giving to members only. Also, we could talk about Vatican wealth.
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  55. You got all that from a YT vid. Referring to David O Mckay (died 1970): Then he said, “I think I’m finally beginning to understand.” That was very comforting to me. After nearly sixty-four years as an Apostle, he still had things that he was learning. Then we knew we were in the presence of not only the teacher who was teaching, but of a student who was learning. ((Packer, Charge to the David O. McKay School of Education, December 1996))
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  56.  @Offbeige  Maybe your assessment is shallow and narcissistic. Maybe you should dig deeper.
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  57. What's behind the design is our desire to build a House of God, worthy of being called that. It's our most sacred place and we treat it as such.
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  58.  @deniskhafizov6827  Non-members are more fascinated with this doctrine than we are. However, we do believe in the possibility. Temple ordinances, however, have always struck me as being about order. God's house is a house of order and Temple ordinances (for ourselves and family members) are a means to achieving that order. We are gathering families together. What comes after this is beyond our comprehension and not relevant to my experience in this mortal life.
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  59.  @deniskhafizov6827  Ok. You're being way too literal. It simply means a lack of chaos. it means consistency. You're trying to attach a mortal, human reasoning to a spiritual, eternal concept. Think bigger.
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  60.  @deniskhafizov6827  This isn't about pride. It's about an understanding that God is infinite and omniscient and beyond our understanding. If anything, it's humbling.
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  61.  @deniskhafizov6827  Like any good parent, God has expectations of us. He knew we would fall short so he sent his Son to redeem us. However, that doesn't mean we can be lazy or casual about our relationship with God. Ex: Even Christ was baptized. Why? God gives us certain tasks. Those tasks are for our benefit, not his.
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  62.  @deniskhafizov6827  Are you a parent? Do you have chores for your kids? Is it healthy for a child to have no duties or expectations? Who would benefit most, the parent or the child? God doesn't need us to do anything. We are the ones who benefit and grow. This isn't about being prideful. It's about being humble and obedient to God's word.
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  63.  @deniskhafizov6827  You're being ridiculous now. The point is that for people to grow, learn, and develop they must have tasks and trials. But you either know this already or you're an atheist.
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  64. Other than when we invite people to take tours.
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  65.  @gordon3186  If you ever get a chance to tour a Temple before it's dedicated, you'll have the chance to go into the Sealing Room where marriages are performed. You will see mirrors on opposing walls that show an infinite reflection of the people in the room. This infinite reflection shows us with those we know, but also with those who came before and those who will come after.
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  66.  @Jona7Fer  We are called to Repentance.
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  67. To anyone who's interested, these guys are funny and informative. SUPERCUT: Secrets of the LDS Temple Endowment! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYA19kOjShQ Evidence of LDS Temple Garments Found in the Dead Sea .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLrRSLIIxNw
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  68. Separation of church and state would also imply a separation of money. Anything the government can tax, it can control.
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  69.  @Persun_McPersonson  No. The 1A is not a restriction on churches, it's a restriction on the government to influence religion and individual beliefs. Part of our problem as a country is that righteous people don't have enough influence in the public square. John Adams said, “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Morality and virtue are the foundation of our republic and necessary for a society to be free.
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  70.  @Persun_McPersonson  The restrictions on the church came later and were not intended by the Founding Fathers.
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  71.  @Persun_McPersonson  John Adams, as a FF, would know better than anyone how the Constitution was meant to function. What is the basis of morality, if not religion? Our laws, when they aren't overstepping, use Judeo-Christian values as their basis.
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  72. We strive to return to God's presence... exaltation. Whatever comes after that is icing on the cake.
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  73.  @roachinaroom  I understand that people leave the church for various reasons. What I don't understand is the need for ex-mos to get on YT for the sole purpose of trying to bring down the church. If they were so unhappy, why not just leave and go live with their new belief system?
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  74. The LDS Church has spent billions on charitable aid and disaster relief. This aid is not limited to church members, either. You have incorrect info.
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  75. What about it? She's a deceiver.
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  76. That's every organization and institution in society.
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  77. Eventually, you'll be able to ask her.
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  78. blah, blah. Be specific about your reasoning or find new material.
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  79. What?
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  80.  @Rjrupert555  People get hung up on the weirdest crap. We don't know why they look the way they do. Is that all you got out of your experience? If so, sad.
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  81. Who's rejecting God and Jesus?
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  82. Your once instance does not make it the norm.
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  83.  @mtb416  once = one. Sometimes fingers and brain don't work at the same speed.
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  84.  @mtb416  My English is just fine. I corrected my typo because of your quotes. You seemed to not grasp that it was just a typo.
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  85. Why? Is your church taxed? do you believe in separation of church and state?
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  86. It blows my mind how so many people can watch an exmo YT vid that's critical of the Church and feel like they finally know what Mormonism is really about.
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  87. How so?
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  88. You're reasoning? Be specific.
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  89.  @ru95  That's gross, but you do you.
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  90. yuck
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  91.  @paulbrungardt9823  cult, cult, cult, blah, blah, blah. It's so old. Be specific or just please stop.
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  92. Weird how? You're just spewing nonsense.
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  93.  @zachbills8112  You mean sound proofing on walls? I've never seen carpet on the basketball courts (and I've seen many). The bathrooms are cleaned every week before meetings. Public bathrooms get used by a lot of people. It's not a Buc-ees with attendants to 24/7 janitorial duty.
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  94. sex cult? geez
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  95. The oxen represent the tribes of Israel. Also baptisms are done individually.
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