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@bankerbilbo7472 Actually we were when America refused to sell them the Patriot. Not to mention the Nato patriot missiles that were stationed there by European nations were pulled out right war broke out on Turkey's doorstep. Imagine telling your ally that you wont' sell them an air defense system and that defense systems will be put there to protect them and then have those defense systems pulled out right when they need it. Then imagine having the audacity to complain when they go buy their own air defense system. This is insanity.
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@markcasila8310 So a nation buying an air defense system is out of "spite" nothing to do with the fact they need an air defense system right? lol Wow that's convenient for your talking point. A bit ridiculous but still convenient.
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@ucanttouchthis227 Who is Turkey Afraid of? Hmm I'd imagine about 3 or 4 wars on your borders in the last 20 years and not having an air defense systems just might make a nation nervous? Iran constantly making veiled threats about using their nearly 2500 crude missiles against you might also make someone nervous? Especially when your allies refuse to sell you air defense systems?
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@Chris Connor, I follow what happens in that region and I feel pretty bad for the Greeks as to the level of leadership they have. I'm fairly sure this situation won't last forever and you'll get some level headed leaders who will work in the national interest of their voters instead of the national interests of other powers.
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@chrisconnor4630 You might want to read the agreement between the Ottomans and the British in 1878. The island wasn't "ceded" it was leased. Also symbolic gestures don't have any legal basis. An agreement signed between the parties with England, Greece and Turkey being the guarantors of the constitution of the island gave it the legal basis. I would advise actually learning the material before attempting to debate them. I'm also not sure what any of that has to do with a majority on an island trying to ethnically cleanse a minority.
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Swedish minister: We won't be secure without Nato membership. Swedish government: We'll continue to finance armed groups who are attacking a Nato member. Only Sweden lol
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@oghuzkhan5117 I'm fairly sure the "Megali Idea" isn't an official state policy in Greece anymore. But I do agree with your sentiment about it being in Greece's benefit to negotiate now. In trying to get all their demands they're going to end up getting nothing in the long term.
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I'd imagine most Kurds would disagree with your assessment.
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@stormcloaks1042 The thing is he doesn't want to know jack shit about you or the situation there. He'd rather throw out irrational tropes based on racial hatred.
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@Gerald Kramer, Not sure I see the duplicity here. Their policy is quite clear. They're doing what they say and saying what they do. Why do you think both sides of this conflict picked them to mediate? What is surprising is that you'd literally make a comment which is the opposite of what is happening.
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@stavrosnicolaou4702 Not sure what any of that has to do with your statement about Stoltenberg. Aside from the fact he is technically right about which Nato country suffering most from terrorism. The rest of your post is basically an emotional rant with very little substance. You're coming off like a triggered gender studies student.
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@redhippog7 Oh I see your point, Greece is just that happy go lucky neighbor who is constantly being bullied right? lol Good luck with that argument btw, especially of a nation which literally has disputes with every single one of it's neighbors.
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@johnpatsias4454 I have this sneaking suspicion this is a very emotional topic for you. So I can't blame you for being irrational.
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@johnpatsias4454 I'm interested in what goes on around the world. I'm not exactly a fan of Turkey and their foreign policy but the way some people try to frame the argument is nothing short of ridiculous. Mind you I come from a country who does some really terrible sh!t around the world, I can say that because I try real hard to see the world for what it is, not what I want it to be.
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@Christian Tan, Nato is a military alliance where each member is legally bound to defend the others. It's rather odd when a nation like Sweden is trying to join the organization while at the same time financing armed groups attacking a member of the organization.
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@christian14329 I'd imagine such things need to dealt with before, which is pretty much how it seems to be going down at this stage.
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@The Eye That would apply to both nations. Although in Egypt's defense at least the vast majority of their people don't defecate on streets, beaches and train tracks. I know it's not saying much by Egyptians are quite a bit more civilized than Indians.
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@Brian Estell, Turkey was dropped when Nato nations refused to sell them air defense systems. So, they diversified their foreign policy as a result.
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I'd imagine that would solve a lot of their problems.
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The difference being Ukraine isn't being invaded from both sides by two major powers.
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@nuclearwarhead9338 You actually just made the same exact argument I was making. I'm thinking you responded to the wrong person lol
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@nuclearwarhead9338 All good my man.
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@easphone8357 I'd imagine the Turks didn't know why the EU and Nato left Turkey to fend for themselves even with Nato obligations on the table to do so. I don't think it matters why in the context of this debate, the point is this made the Turks nervous. So this talking point of "why are they buying air defense systems when Nato will protect them" is out of the window. Every nation regardless of what you may or may not think of them have a right to find ways to defend their airspace.
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@Djvidi1976, I vacation in Turkey every year, been all over that country. Never seen anyone on line waiting for bread. Fake news much?
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@chrisconnor4630 Nope, just a dude who has spent a lot of time in that part of the world.
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@John Patsias, or maybe he is the head of a military alliance which doesn't want to lose it's second most capable member? Maybe? lol Also if the guy leading Nato were as easily bribed as you claim, trust me there would be a lot wealthier nations lined up to buy his services. What you're claiming is pure and utter fantasy.
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@christian14329 It's more like imagine trying to join a group of friends while at the same time you're paying someone to beat up one of the guys in the group. Then have an absolute meltdown when they say, "yea you can join us but you have to stop paying those guys to beat him up." Sounds crazy right? That's essentially what you're arguing against.
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@christian14329 You do realize you're debating in circles right?
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@trooperrex9972 It is what it is man, some people fall so deep into the cognitive dissonance rabbit hole that no amount of reason and logic can pull them out. It's sad if you think about it, the human mind's ability to block out reason and logic in favor of what their emotions want.
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@christian14329 You really think that will pull you out of that blackhole you went down earlier? Seriously?
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Nato has been a bit too selective with the military tech it shared with Turkey in the last 20 years. This is why we're in the situation we're in. What was Einstein's definition of insanity again?
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It feels like these reporters get dumber and dumber every year.
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Would be nice if Nato and Putin would simply leave Ukraine alone. Neither side is going to do that so here we are.
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@arondir3622 That is a fair and reasonable point. If enough people in your country agree with your assessment he'll lose. If they don't he'll win. It's really that simple. The people will speak and people should respect the will of the people. Regardless of who wins and loses.
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That's some slick foreign policy They win either way lol
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@hasankilic9825 It seems to me you completely misunderstood the premise of my post.
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@Mcguerd8 unfortunately another notch in the long list of absurd US foreign policy in the last 20 years. Not sure how much more of this we can sustain without eventually pissing everyone off. We literally have psychos running our foreign policy.
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@ucanttouchthis227 1. They too thought being in Nato gave them air defense protection, that is until the two Nato air defense batteries were pulled out during the war in Syria. 2. I doubt they trust the veracity of Russian air defense systems if the Russians attack. They purchased the systems so he could copy and learn from them so they can build their own. They're almost done building their own long range air defense system. Why do you think they only bought 2 systems from Russia?
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@southpole4776 I didn't realize being part of a security alliance automatically took away a nation's independence. Good luck explaining that one. As far as the EU, the Turks haven't been too interested for quite a while now. Few nations will be willing to join that sinking ship at this point. Hell the ones already in are trying to get out. I'm not sure the Turks are that stupid.
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@southpole4776 Well considering I'm not from a random European nation like Poland, Germany or France obviously I'm not from a vassal state. So yes, I'm from the United States itself.
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@Emine Cinar, It's obvious you aren't from America so let me give you some quick advice. Don't ever expect any sort of honesty from a network like CNBC. In fact don't trust any of the legacy media outlets. It's all half truths meant to push false narratives.
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@TheExaltedHerobrine Or any other dictator on this planet? There are nations with 100x better dictators than Sisi. Look at Singapore for example.
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Funny how the mainstream media was talking this guy up 4 years ago. And are now attacking him like he is Satan because he tried to explain why Africa is neutral in the Ukraine war. You can't make this stuff up if you tried. No matter how hard they try, they're not going to shut Mo up. Keep trucking Mo.
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@Stavros Nicolaou, what in the world are you talking about.
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@Andrea Valgrande, I think the reason for that is simple. They don't want this war on their shoreline. Nations far away seem to be stoking the flames and want the war to continue. It's surreal to watch.
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I honestly don't know how these foreign ministers stay calm fielding these ridiculous questions from these dishonest mental midget in the media.
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@panostheodoulou1166 Is that something you wish didn't happen? If so does that mean you preferred a majority group on an island to completely wipe out a minority group? If that is indeed your argument I'd say good luck making that case.
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@Mark Bishop you do realize what you said makes absolutely no sense right?
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@SK-lt1so That is probably not going to happen.
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@johnpatsias4454 You do realize you're talking about the same guy and group of guys who wrote millions of articles telling us Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and we must go to war right? You can't cherry pick the insanity of these interventionist globalists when it suits your petty interests. Anyone who agrees with anything Michael Rubin says needs to have their heads checked. Read into this guy's history my man and how often he's simply either been wrong or outright lied.
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