Comments by "William Davis" (@williamdavis9562) on "ARTE.tv Documentary" channel.

@kyorkdabbagh7759 Well all evidence points to the fact the Azeris aren't behaving like Armenians. When the Armenians invaded and occupied this region they savagely ethnically cleansed 800,000 civilians. When the Azeris took this place back only a few dozen civilians died. Big difference
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@Sandor7698 You should realize that international law doesn't recognize your subjective view of who should own what based on events from 1000s of years ago. If international law worked like that 90% of the planet would have to relocate. There was a point in time where everyone decided that these borders are the internationally recognized borders, any nation which is part of the UN signed on that dotted line so these ridiculous wars of "oh this land is mine because of 1000 years ago" and people slaughtering each other non stop would end. The fact is you can't simply start invading another nation's internationally recognized territory, ethnically cleanse 850,000 civilians and then pretend to be the side of morality. It doesn't work like that.
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@georgegazaryan7358 It's an interesting point you bring up. Yes taking life is worse, we can compare and contrast that difference as well. Not sure you'd want to go down that road though as it makes your argument even worse. Armenia invades the region over 20,000 civilians are slaughtered like cattle. Azerbaijan invades the region a few dozen civilians die. Facts>Your feelings.
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@eric6616 I have no horse in this race but it is a lot easier to make the argument that North Iran is actually South Azerbaijan.
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@Jokerlolpopkagamings I said ethnically cleansed. Look up what it means.
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@PhotosHD-of4qm Not wishing to take sides here I do feel compelled to point out a simple fact. The entire planet and every nation on it recognizes that region as sovereign Azerbaijani internationally recognized territory. Just sayin....
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@Ala351 I don't think they need to dream about it, they're actually doing it.
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I was interested in watching this until the narrator said "propaganda or reality it's impossible to verify" pertaining to the Marijauna fields. All the plants and fields are right there, verifying would be quite easy. Just walk over and look at them, smell them lol WTF is this.
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It is demonstrably true that Azerbaijan is not occupying your "lands." In fact it is also demonstrably true that Armenia illegally invaded their neighbor and occupied their internationally recognized territory for well over 30 years. Not to mention the ethnic cleansing of 800,000 civilians that it still hasn't apologized or paid reparations for. So you're right, borders do need to be respected.
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If that were true why weren't the civilians slaughtered during this conflict. The Azeris literally behaved in the exact opposite fashion to how the Armenians behaved when they conquered this region in the 1990s and ethnically cleansed 850,000 civilians, brutally so. Facts>Your feelings. What is sad is your detachment from reality.
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@Ala351 Usually the side which illegally invades their neighbor's internationally recognized territory and ethnically cleanses 800,000 civilians is seen as the aggressor. In the recent conflict Azerbaijan was actually enforcing international law and UN resolutions by pushing out the illegal militia groups off it's territory. Anyone aiding these militia groups should probably have to pay reparations for all the civilians they have ethnically cleansed in this illegal occupation of another nation's territory.
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@Nk4ido Invading your neighbor's internationally recognized territory and brutally ethnically cleansing 800,000 civilians is not something you can simply blame on events from 100 years ago with problems you had with someone else.
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@dutchafrikaner1204 Except that area is internationally recognized territory of the Azeris. Not to mention over 800,000 Azeri civilians were ethnically cleansed from there when the Armenians illegally invaded it.
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@HolyArmor I always find it interesting that every single war crimes and ethnic cleansing denier in the world uses the same exact playbook. You do realize Armenia illegally invaded Azerbaijan in the 1990s and ethnically cleansed 800,000 civilians right? Ethnic cleansing/Genocide/war crimes denial guidebook. 1. Claim it never happened 2. Claim it's propaganda 3. Claim they've done worse to you Well done holyarmor, I've seen you've been studying the guidebook.
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It's simple, they're the same ethnic group.
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@samsol8948 You'd have to expect that kind of rhetoric from people who's internationally recognized territories were invaded and 850,000 of their civilians brutally ethnically cleansed in the 1990s. Rhetoric is fine as long as they don't act on it. Which they clearly didn't during this conflict. I guess behaving like the Armenians when it comes to civilians seemed like it was beneath them.
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@sevakthomasians7042 He seems to know about how to respect people, even enemies. Which I'd imagine seems like more than you know.
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So according to your logic all humans who've migrated anyone in human history should go back to where they came from? So everyone back to Africa? Is that your contention?
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Doesn't the northern half of Iran belong to Azerbaijan?
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Well you'd think that after their neighbor illegally invaded their internationally recognized territory in the 1990s and brutally ethnically cleansed 850,000 of their civilians, perhaps they'd be a little upset about it? Thankfully they didn't behave as barbarically as the Armenians when they recently retook the territory.
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@kenster8270 There are rarely clear cut good guys and bad guys in any conflict. This is one of the few conflicts where it was quite simple that one party was clearly in the wrong. One side illegally invaded their neighbor's internationally recognized territory in the 1990s and brutally ethnically cleansed 850,000 civilians. The other side recently just enforced a plethora of UN resolutions by taking back their territory. And they did it with an extremely limited amount of collateral damage to civilians. Nor did they behave as barbarically and start slaughtering civilians as was done ot them by the Armenians in the 1990s. Pretty clear cut case of who is in the right and who is in the wrong. Morally and more importantly from a international law angle.
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Is this how you rationalize invading another nation's internationally recognized territory and ethnically cleansing 800,000 people? Because of some thousand year old claim to the land? Interesting.
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@Dashadancing, Except Armenia isn't protecting their land. They're protecting occupied territory it illegally invaded in the 1990s and then proceeded to ethnically cleanse 800,000 civilians. Which btw was one of the worst crimes against humanity on earth in the past 50 years.
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@Ala351 So essentially you're saying anyone who doesn't agree with your insane worldview is pro Turk? People who think illegal invasions and ethnic cleansing is bad is now pro Turk? Seriously?
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@BrandonMoki Not sure most figures have it well above 80,000 civilians. You're going to try to bend language by trying to lessen the impact of ethnic cleansing? It is a pretty straight forward description of an event. No one needs to bend it, unless they're ethnic cleansing deniers which I have a sneaking suspicion you might be.
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@BrandonMoki No one left because people were being slaughtered. Nor did they leave at the threat of violence. I can see why they left though. They know how they behaved when they invaded the place and I guess their fear was the other side would behave just like they did. Difference is the other side didn't.
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@BrandonMoki So said every denier of genocide, ethnic cleansing and war crimes. Do you guys all to the same school or something. Using the same exact arguments. 1. It never happened. 2. Numbers of inflated. 3. They did worse. 4 They deserved it. Is there some handbook you all use or something? I've seen the Serbians use that handbook, the Greek Cypriots use that handbook, the Turks use that hand book and now the Armenians using it. Same arguments to rationalize mass murder. Now the Israelies are using a higher form of the same guidebook. Except in some cases they dont' even bother hiding their crimes. Is it something in the water over there which makes you all this insane?
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@BrandonMoki So when the Armenians invaded this area you're saying they murdered 16,000 civilians which made 750,000 of them leave? Now when Azerbaijan recently invaded something like 2 dozen civilians died. You're essentially proving my point without realizing it. Good thing the Azeris didn't behave like the Armenians in the recent war right?
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@BrandonMoki If you're referring to soldiers who died, news flash. Soldiers die in war. It is the civilian toll people use to see how clean or dirty a military operation is.
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@BrandonMoki No that isn't what I'm saying. What I am saying is if you steal my house, I am within my rights to take it back. But in the process I shouldn't murder your children too if you murdered mine. And no, you won't find one rational person who loves Israel. It is an apartheid state. It basically does to the Palestinians what Armenia did to the Azeris in the 1990s. But they're worse because they've been doing it non stop for the past 75 years. Armenia just did it once.
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They can stand all they want, they just can't stand on the graves of civilians they've ethnically cleansed while illegally invading and occupying another nation's internationally recognized territory.
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@somerandomduud4086 You do realize you can't simply hold referendums and change borders. You understand this right? I also find it interesting how you simply ignored the 800lbs elephant in the room. That Armenia illegally invaded the internationally recognized territory of another state and then brutally ethnically cleansed 800,000 civilians. Instead of your circular logic, you should be more worried about how Armenia is afford the reparations for their crimes.
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You mean the story of when they invaded their neighbor's territory and ethnically cleansed 800,000 civilians? That story?
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@joeb5080 Technically yes, they broke international law there. Quite badly too. But the last part of your statement is quite ridiculous. Considering the Kosovars didn't brutally ethnically cleanse the Serbians living there like the Armenians did to the Azeris. To the tune of 800,000 civilians. But on the legal issue you're 100% right, the US/UK did break international law in that situation. (Not the first or last time they've done it or will do it)
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@yesssboss2219 So you're enjoying watching women and children get bombed on a scale earth hasn't seen since ww2? Is that what you're telling us? Thankfully the Azeris aren't as barbaric as you and didn't behave that way in victory.
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So this is how you justify one nation illegally invading their neighbor's internationally recognized territory and ethnically cleansing 850,000 civilians? Good luck with that argument anywhere outside of an echo chamber.
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Imagine a documentary about a conflict while failing to mention the illegal invasions and ethnic cleansing campaigns which created the conflict lol
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No that isn't why. People forgot because in this conflict civilians weren't being massacred and nothing insane was going on like in Palestine. These two nations fought HUGEEE war and something like 27 civilians died. More civilians than that die in Gaza every 12 seconds. Hell in the time it took me to write this post probably 40 kids have been murdered in Gaza. That gets people's attention.
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@Morten-f9o It's hard for any nation to support the illegal occupation of another nation's internationally recognized border. Makes sense only Russia and Iran support this and support Armenia in this effort. Also the UN did interfere in this conflict. It has a plethora of UN resolutions on the topic.
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@Eric6616. Their justifications were quite clear and simple. Their land was illegal invaded in the 1990s and 850,000 of their civilians were brutally ethnically cleansed. They went back to retake the territory by enforcing a plethora of UN resolutions. That is justification enough. The cannabis finds were being presented as a matter of fact. And it seems like you are projecting trying to come up with any kind of justification as to why there were fields upon fields of them. Not that I think it is a bad thing, I've always been for the legalization of cannabis. But your post was nothing short of fantastically ridiculous.
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You mean was right james?
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Be back for illegal invasions and the brutal ethnic cleansing of 850,000 civilians again? Is that what you're getting at? A promise of genocide and war crimes? When are you guys going to learn how to get along with your neighbors and stop fantasizing about murdering them?
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