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@legiopatrianostra4702 Maybe that is why their society isn't collapsing like most EU nations. So lucky for them, for not being in "europe"
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I don't think they really care what you did or didn't "go by." They're going to ram it down your throats either way. Welcome to the world of real politik.
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@powasjington4262 I'm not sure they are "doing what is necessary to secure world peace." They are, acting in line with their interests like most other nations.
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@Big Boss, Turkey will surely be an extremely strong regional power. Super power? No. Not really possible.
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@@A_R_B_G The Kurdish population has exploded in that country during the time you claim there is a genocide against them. Half the government is Kurdish for god's sake. Do you know what genocide means and what it entails? Or do you just randomly throw words around without actually understanding what they mean?
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I'm no fan of this guy but I don't think anyone in that country will lose any sleep over some dude named Jacobunflapp and his feelings about who they should or shouldn't vote for.
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@Joe Nichols, Before the change Turkey had a parliamentary system much like England and most European nations. He switched it to a presidential system which is less like England's and more like America's or France's. I don't think it made the country more or less democratic. Unless you believe England is more democratic than lets say France or America. If the people in a nation aren't democratic minded, you won't get a well functioning democracy even if you put in the most democratic models. Turkey will always be a mix of democracy and authoritarianism, It's steeped in the culture of the people. The leader being called a president or prime minister won't change that.
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@WiththegraceofgodHJ Things that humor me don't impact my sleep. Your lack of self awareness is quite hilarious.
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@d-phoenix2198 China, yes for sure. They're tipped to be the next big power. Turkey being a regional power only, I agree with that as well. I don't see superpower status in their future. India though? Seriously dude? This is a country where over half their population still defecates in the streets. lol
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@Cdkmedia Turkey is a regional power, anyone who claims this this not to be true is probably someone who simply doesn't want it to be true. Israel's military is purely defensive, it isn't set up to project power far from it's borders. You're comparing apples and oranges. As far as the region goes, even if you cut Turkey's military prowess by half it would still be a regional power. Not because they're truly powerful but because they're in a region of extremely weak nations. Syria? Iraq? Georgia? Bulgaria? Greece? That is like a list of the special Olympics of world military power. So yea, they're a regional power by every definition of the word.
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@punsmith You seem a tad bit emotional over this issue. To a point you don't exactly come off as rational. Especially hurling insults at people calling sickening and uneducated because they don't share your worldview. I can always spot a person who isn't rational and is completely and utterly triggered by something. People like this generally have nothing to add to any debate other than anger.
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@chaosXP3RT As someone who lives half the year in the west and half the year in Turkey It's fairly easy to say both sides have their biases about each other. I'd imagine the bias from the western media toward Turkey is more delusional than the bias in the Turkish media pertaining to the west. Sometimes while watching the news here in the United States about something going on in Turkey I'm left wonder if they're referring to the same country I live in 6 months out of the year. The coverage is simply that bad and not in line with reality.
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@Chairman Meow, they geography is both a gift and a curse at the same time. It can't be an easy situation on any nation politically and economically that there are constantly wars going on on all it's borders. America invaded Iraq which borders Turkey, which caused chaos in Turkey considering the instability right across the border. Not to mention the economic dent it made. Then the Syrian civil war which came with the same problems Iraq falling apart had except this time they also kicked 5 million refugees into Turkey. They've also seen their other neighbor Georgia get invaded by Russia. Their neighbor across the black sea to the north Ukraine, well you know what is going on with that. It's a really sh!tty place to be and do business.
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Yes I doubt you'll see many policy changes. Most of their policy isn't by choice but more so out of necessity. If the reasoning behind the policy doesn't change, the policy won't.
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@powasjington4262 Peace in some far flung place isn't always on the agenda for most governments.
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@Zana Ghazal, This would work assuming the vast majority of people who live in those areas want "autonomy." Last elections more Kurds voted for the AKP than voted for the Kurdish parties. Most Kurds don't see it in their interests to build a nation and an economy from scratch. I'm also not sure if they're going to allow fringe elements to push them toward that end. People aren't stupid, they've what the road to ethnic politics leads to in places like Syria and Iraq.
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@AnarchoAmericium, Nations are slowly starting to wake up about the negative impact of following the globalists in everything they order you to do. Turkey isn't the only one. Hungary and Poland are also showing signs of discontent with the globalists and their policies. The issue isn't one of partnership or lack there of, the issue is about the independence of nation states and the desire of their leaders to do what is best for the electorate. We've seen many nations here in the west where the governments have lost sight of that.
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I'd imagine your comment will age worse than both.
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@mistergeopolitics4456 Having Militias in random places makes you a player in regional matters, it doesn't make you a hegemon. You claiming Turkey is subservient to America also proves my point, I said if "America wasn't in the region." Also does being anti American make you a better candidate to be a hegemon? Is that your point when you talk about Iran not being subservient to the United States? If that is your contention do you also believe Cuba would be a Hegemon in their region if America some how went away because they're at odds with the United States? Obviously not because Mexico (who is subservient to the US) would steamroll Cuba. Also what does being a threat to the EU and United States have to do with being a hegemon in your region if major powers left? I'm also curious why you use the term the "west" when talking about the strength of nations. If you take the United States out of the equation, the rest of the western nation are far too weak to project power that far from their shores. The EU is also a joke when it comes to projecting power. Aside from misguided talking points, you haven't been able to debunk my original premise.
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He is probably too old to wait them out and run again. But lets say by some miracle he is able to stay healthy and sharp for that long, your scenario will probably come to fruition if the people don't see improvements.
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@Pony4Koma, As many times as they've tripped over themselves in this process I'd imagine they've also made far too many gains to assume they're merely "throwing dice."
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@cjbarrow46 Considering the leaps and bounds at which they've grown in the past 10 years, shows their ambitions have aged nothing like milk. It's still a messed up country with a boatload of problems but they're in a far better position today than they've been at any point in the past 80 years. In many ways outstripping and outpacing their original ambitions. You won't find one person, even detractors of that nation claiming their influence hasn't risen exponentially in the past decade or two.
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@Matt Savigny, there is also a possibility they can be a regional hegemon without even doing anything. If Russia and America for one reason or another pull out of that region completely, Turkey automatically becomes the regional hegemon. There is no other nation in that region that can slow this down. Only an outside superpower can keep the current balances where they are. So Turkey being a hegemon isn't really up to Turkey, it's more so up to what happens in Russia and America in the next 70 years.
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@El Turco, Unless you have a way to pick up your land mass and move it somewhere else. You really don't have a choice in the matter. You must have relations with your neighbors to the south.
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@elturco2421 The video makes sense, even if you believe there are issues which you think he should or shouldn't have raised. I'm well aware of the economy in your country since I've been living half the year in your country for almost 20 years. I'm also well aware of the 10 million genetically damaged inbred migrants running around Turkey creating chaos as well. Those two things not being mentioned doesn't mean the video "doesn't make sense." The one thing I've realized about you Turks living among you for so long is that sometimes you get so emotional about something you tend to lose all logic and reason. Which seems to have struck you this time. Yani kisacasi, bazi huyulariniz ayni Arablar gibi. Mesela senin ukarda yazdiklarinin mantigi.
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@armerholzhacker7758 What part of his post was a lie?
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@katerinamakedoniaGreece I'd imagine Albanian can say the same thing about Greece no? lol
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Indian Streetshietters Energy dependence. If they solve that, they'll skyrocket. If they don't, they'll continue to sink.
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No one ruled the world in those days, not enough technology to get around the entire globe and project power. The Turks dominated a huge portion of their region for 600 years, not the world. Only one nation has ever come close to ruling the world, that was the United States.
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@Kaye Kaye, I have no horse in this race nor do I really have an opinion on 99% of what you said. But the moment you used the words Greece and military supremacy I started laughing. lol
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@Aydemir18 I'm not completely ignorant about Turkey, I've been doing business there and living there part time since the late 1990s. I'm no fan of your president Erdogan and you could make a laundry list of things he has done which hurt the country. However this argument that the nation is no longer secular is pretty ridiculous. The country is still secular, it has a secular constitution and it has secular laws. So why would Kilicdaroglu defend something which isn't under threat? No wonder Erdogan keeps winning elections. The opposite comes up with the most insane and ridiculous ways to attack him, when there are obvious ways to attack him which are rational and which are ignored.
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@melanieenmats You do realize this guy actually wins elections right? Regardless of what I may think of him, or what you may think of him I'd imagine it's the Turks who will decide who will and won't lead them. Your fetish of wanting to "kick out" democratically elected leaders of other nations seems problematic.
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@mistergeopolitics4456 Iran was impossible to invade due to their geography. Not much has changed since then. However they aren't nearly strong enough to be a regional hegemon in this day and age.
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Odd because if you ask the Turks Greece belongs to Turkey. Good luck solving that riddle.
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No dude.
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@nextgeneration8309 If most Turks felt that way the AKP with it's anti Europe policy wouldn't have been getting so many votes the past 10 years.
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@numdd4717 I don't think you seem to grasp what it takes to be a "superpower." Everything points to the fact Turkey will be an extremely powerful regional hegemon.
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@kerimtheturk I'm indifferent. I know Turkey well and it's nice to see them progressing, especially when you consider how they've been treated by the west since the 1800s. You guys simply aren't understanding the point I'm trying to make.
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Yes the entire planet is afraid of those mighty Serbs, Greeks and Bulgarians lol
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@Dan Chang, Turkey has been a "regional power" for a very long time, even at their weakest. What they're trying to do is become a regional hegemon.
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@nicolaskrinis7614 You do realize you sound like Hitler talking about Poland right?
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@Filiz but a lot of you act like Arabs. Why is that? lol Your post being a prime example.
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@deprogramm They've had many military coups. But between said coups they were always in charge. They perform a coup when the civilian authority challenges it's authority. In the 50s their authority wasn't challenged hence no coup. You won't find one historian worth their salt who will claim they were anything other a nation under authoritarian military rule in the 1950s. I understand you have an axe to grind and you're more than welcome to state your case on that front. What you can't do is make completely false claims like Turkey had a better democracy in the 1950s. Facts>Your emotions.
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@Envinyatar, people throw around that word superpower easily. Turkey won't be a superpower. Turkey is however a regional power on its' way to being a regional hegemon. Nor do I think some short term currency issues is going to stop that process.
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@matikhorasani3842 I didn't realize you can master the macro economics of a nation by "visiting it" Interesting indeed. Why not actually look at what percentage of the GDP tourism accounts for and how much of a tend foreign direct investment makes in their economy. I'd imagine hard facts and numbers would build a better case than some irrational inbred going there to "look around" to figure it all out.
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@memezmemez5176 You must understand the globalist narrative doesn't really care what you a "Kurd" actually thinks. They'll continue to speak for you and pretend you're after things you actually aren't. That is how fake news is spread and perceptions are made.
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@osama Foda, Egypt and Israel even if they teamed up wouldn't stand a chance of threatening Turkey militarily. Egypt has a joke of a military and as good as Israel's military is, it's an efficient military which wasn't built to project hardpower that far from it's shores. Israel doesn't even have the logistics to send troops to Turkish shores. It's simply not something they feel the need to have. By the same token, just like Egypt and Israel cannot invade Turkey, Turkey cannot invade Egypt and Israel either. Very few nations have the military logistics to fight wars that far from it's shores.
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@BOKAJAN1997 I have an Armenian neighbor here, an older gentleman who's extremely wise and intelligent. I remember having a conversation with him about this around 2012. I kept asking him why Armenia won't accept the the deal the Azeris are offering. It was obvious to anyone reading news about the region how much money the Azeris were dumping into their military and it was only a matter of time until they got fed up with Armenia not willing to negotiate and attack. His response was essentially that Armenia will not give up an inch of land and how they act emotionally and don't think through what they've been offered. Rarely do you ever see any country on this planet make the type of geo strategic mistakes this country is making over and over again. It is almost like a sort of mass delusion you rarely see. You can't have this irrational mindset and survive for very long.
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I agree that staying out of a sinking ship like the EU is a good idea. But I'm not sure what "thrive as a secular state" actually means. That country has been secular since 1923 and they haven't exactly thrived. What do you think will change? The country has serious structural problems that can't simply be solved regardless if they're secular or not secular.
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@mistergeopolitics4456 Again with more rhetoric that amounts to nothing. Yes Turkey's economy is trash and yes Iran's economy is trash. But you do realize there are degrees to things no? If I have a cold and you have the full blown cancer can we really just say " oh we're both sick and equal in our misery." Obviously not, thing shave proportion. I don't think you're trying to be rational here, you seem to have a view of things and are trying to fit square pegs into round holes. When you see people making points you can't logically counter, screaming that what they're saying is nonsense is in itself nonsensical.
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@G_N_A_N It's trash because the people always use economy as the reason to bash Turkey are comparing to the highest income economies of the world. Compared to them yes it's trash. But I'd imagine Turkey is headed in the right direction and will probably pass up many legacy brand nations which are all decaying. There is a reason why hundreds and thousands of westerners with enough money are moving to the coast of Turkey.
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@Captain-F-g7x No nation will simply say we want peace and not use force (if they are in a position to do so) to push their interests forward. Humans are humans. We were like this 10,000 years ago we're like this today and we'll be like this for a very long time.
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@orbit1894 Is he really? Or is it just a bunch of cheap rhetoric which would completely crumble if put under a microscope?
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@imperator791 Most people don't seem to understand the geography part of this equation. Hell even the Armenian government seems to overlook this with the hopes that the EU will step in and help them. Russia is the only game in town for them.
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I'm fairly sure there are no middle eastern nations which would have the second largest and deadliest military force in Nato.
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A hard invasion of a country on some flimsy lie which then led to the destruction of a nation not to mention the death of over 1 million civilians will generally lead to some flak. Yes Russia, SA, UAE, Iran, Turkey and Russia have been doing terrible things in the middle east, that I agree with 100%. But again it will take a lot to top what the US did in Iraq. That event changed the way the world looks at the American government, it has also changed the way we Americans ourselves look at our government.
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@nilotpolshankarison5438 I'm not a big fan of fake news outlets like BBC and CNN. As far as India transforming, I'd like to see their people and their mentality transform first. Which will take 100s of years before they learn how to interact with the rest of the world in a civilized manner.
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You can't sign a ceasefire agreement when you're getting wrecked and then simply ignore what you signed. That is a dangerous thing to do for any nation. The only nation I can think of which constantly does this and gets away with it is Israel. They are the outlier obviously, for most nations a heavy price is paid if you continually sign such things and ignore them.
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@gjc1 So your entire argument is that anything you disagree with is spurious? That is one hell of an argument lol
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@mikeny5020 Considering their policies it feels like they're going to destabilize that entire region.
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@necesitoMuchodiNero Why not? Because it wouldn't make any sense for them to do so. What they'd get in return in relation to the resources they'd have to throw at it simply doesn't add up. You can't be a world superpower if you don't have an extremely large blue water Navy. Turkish defense spending isn't even interested in spending on a blue water Navy. They're building their Navy for the Med Sea. Which they obviously want to dominate the East Med. This notion of super power is ridiculous. In fact when the USA falters in their super power status, I'm not sure any nation will take up that status. Super powers are rare in human history and will probably continue to be. We'll see a lot of extremely powerful regional powers, which Turkey can obviously achieve.
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@lou6749 Not sure how that has anything to do with the point I just made.
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@jacobjonm0511 It seems you got your wish bro. The being a donkey part.
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@jacobjonm0511 Let me take a wild guess. Anyone who doesn't agree with your insane views must be from ethnic group X right? The level of cognitive dissonance is quite strong ha? lol
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@nazeemsultan123 Their gas finds will help them but the amounts they found won't be a game changer. I'd imagine they're going to continue searching, if they hit a big pocket of gas however it will change the power balances of that entire region.
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@argosime Actually they burned through Qatar's forex reserves lol
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@Zionismisterrorism8716. Russia is obviously in a tough spot and it is busy. But to claim it completely lost power is a tad bit of a stretch. They still have more than enough to scare nations like Georgia. If Georgia tried to take back the enclaves in the north, they'd get wrecked. Nor would they get much support from the west as it wouldn't be as easy to funnel weapons in there like it is with Ukraine due to the geography. Georgia isn't stupid, in fact most the nations in that region are quite aware of what they can and can't get away with. Well except Armenia which seems like a batsh!t crazy country.
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@Rui Correia, I doubt this dude they call Mustafa Kemal could have imagined that Europe would descend into the Soviet Union 2.0. Europe's ideas? What exactly are those these days? For governments to enact policies not caring if their people want it or not? For the EU superstate wanna be to simply ignore the will of voters in nation states by holding referendums over and over until they get the desired result? Are these the ideals you're' 'referring to? I live in Turkey 6 months out of the year and trust me this country has A LOT of problems. But the last thing this country needs is to go down the road of more authoritarianism by following "Europe's ideals." I would prefer a country where the will of the people actually matters, not some cheap knockoff Orwellian state from 1984.
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@georgedevries3992 If that were enforced Nato would have like 3 members left lol
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@deprogramm They were actually far worse. You do realize it was a military dictatorship right? They're not very good now but they're still 1000x better than what they were in the 50s. Crack open a book for god's sake lol
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@georgedevries3992 Improving? You mean like Canada and their draconian crackdown on protestors? I'm fairly sure in Hungary and Canada you don't get your assets frozen for disagreeing with the regime. The examples and the list can go on and on. Also presidents of nation's don't magically turn into dictators because a few billionaire bankers don't like their policies and have their news networks call them dictators. Both of them are populists (along with italy now) who actually are doing the bidding of their people and this is driving the globalist elites mad. I mean the idea of a leader doing what their voters actually want? Insanity right? Lets call them dictators lol
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@deprogramm I'd imagine the same could be said of a lot of nations. Two major factors contribute to this. How beholden nations are to members of an alliance. When you're a banana republic you have no choice but to go along with anything you're told to do. Lets make no mistake, in the 1950s Turkey wasn't exactly an independent nation. Washington completely and utterly dominated their policy. Second factor being the outright fear of the Soviet Union. Aside from the Baltic states and a few other eastern European nations, it isn't as if most nations feel a threat to their existence from Russia. This really changes the equation and gives nations more flexibility and maneuverability in their foreign policy. Cheap rhetoric rarely gets to the core of an issue.
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@deprogramm They fell into our laps because of everything you mentioned. Their utter fear of the Soviets. This then gave us an opportunity to set up shop in their nation and yes we did dominate every single aspect of their policy. Any politician we didn't like was immediately either thrown in jail or pushed aside. This was what the cold war was like, we had to do what we had to do to make sure the Soviets didn't expand. As far as the alliance, it's all in name right now. Not really much of an alliance left if you look behind the curtain. Also how much of an alliance is it really when member states are arming and funding armed groups who are blowing up schools and and hospitals in other fellow member states. Again reality is reality.
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@douglassantet647 Turkey and Russia have massively conflicting interests. Yet at the same time it isn't in either nation's interest to "clash." Which is why they can be fighting a bloody proxy war in one place as bitter enemies and collaborating in another. America's unreliable and unpredictable foreign policy has forced both nations to find a way to get along. It is one of the strangest relationships you'll find in international relations.
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@Michael dy, That is another trope being thrown around which is completely detached from reality. Turkey is still secular, I live here 6 months out of the year and have been doing so for the past 20 years. This idea that the country is turning to Sharia laws is what people would call "fake news." There has not been on such law passed in the past 20 years. Not one.
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So another hard line "musalman" will make you happier? lol
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@Aydemir18 Sure he is. Also are you aware of what the word secular means?
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@Aydemir18 Secularism is a political philosophy and a way to organize society. It isn't a description of a person. I'd imagine your schools taught you that right? People aren't secular, systems are secular.
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@Jameswyre680, I'm wondering how society got so dumbed down that they'll repeat cliches they've heard even though it makes absolutely no sense. How exactly can this guy be a dictator yet at the same time also be a guy who is about to lose an election. Not to mention his party recently in the midterm elections lost and lost really bad. Think about that for a second. You actually know what the word dictator means right and how elections work? I'm no fan of this dude and hope he loses the election. But that really doesn't excuse people from saying the most ridiculous things which crumble like feta cheese when put under a microscope. "He is a dictator, he will probably lose the election." I see this a lot in the comments section. The lack of self awareness is surreal.
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@matikhorasani3842 Are you basing this off numbers, such as what percentage of the GDP comes from tourists and people escaping war torn countries? Or are you basing this off going there and seeing some tourists spend money somewhere? I'd imagine this is probably it because that is what you claimed to have based your theory on. The fact you don't even realize how ridiculous you sound is quite scary.
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We had one, his name was Biden. He won. Lets go brandon.......
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@handlemonium He is most likely going to be a lot more left wing on economic issues. Probably going to want less privatization and more government control over industry. (Which I'm not completely against on principle but I doubt it would work in a highly corrupt country like Turkey) And just about as authoritarian as Erdogan on social issues. The thing in Turkey is, there are no liberals. Everyone wants to smash their enemies via the power of the state lol
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@newwonderer they had a very high standard of living before they were bombed into the Stone Age for no reason
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@Muhammad_Ahmad_ it wasn’t a nato operation. Most nato states were against it. It was a French operation. France was too weak to get it done so the begged the Americans to do it for them
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@live_free_or_perish Is that why their population in certain countries is exploding? Because they're being killed? I really wish you would stop with orientalism of speaking for these people. I'm no fan of the cultural marxism of the left but this is one instance where white privilege is actually real. People like you thinking you can speak for millions of others based on your own perception of their reality
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@chaosXP3RT They're in the news quite often.
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Not that it makes the situation any better but technically the United States only recognized the PKK as a terror organization and not the YPG. It's this technicality they use to be legally able to work with the YPG. They call it rebranding. It doesn't make it right but don't spread false information like the United States branding the YPG a terror group. That is flat out false.
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@Karakulak1071 so then you agree with me that your original statement was false?
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@Maurvir3197. You're right about France and Germany. The fact they're trying to enter these talks are ridiculous, they don't have the ability to force any sort of outcome on either party. No full peace treaty between these two nations will hold weight unless Russia, Turkey and Iran are also party to the deal. All are close enough to project power into that region and have interests there. Also the Azeris don't need to negotiate a trade corridor. It has already been negotiated, it is part of the 2020 ceasefire agreement Armenia and Azerbaijan signed in 2020.
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@melanieenmats Do you have any sort of evidence that without voters from Europe he wouldn't win the election? Also if those people are Turkish citizens and they're voting, it means that country believes all it's citizens should have a right to vote, it would be very insane and undemocratic for you to decide for them which of their citizens can and can't vote. I've lived overseas for a short stint and voted in the American elections, the elections or my choice in them should not be in question because it is my right to vote in my nation's elections even if I am overseas. You can throw out terms like white knight or anything but your critique is nowhere near rational. In fact it feels like you have a sort of god complex where you feel it's up for you to decide what group A does or doesn't do. Reality>Your emotions. Your talking points make absolutely zero sense when broken down with reason and logic. Your emotional appeals about white knighting and what not won't change this fact.
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@Polo-rn8ly People in the west completely underestimate how far we've pushed them, the extent of the lack of trust they have for the west and their resentment for how they've been treated. If the sh!t really hit the fan, I'm not sure Turkey would lift a finger if they were in a position not to.
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@notmyself2533 I see you're not a fan of people voting to choose their leaders. Based on things like the religion of the leader or perhaps their ethnicity as well. I remember some German dudes from the 1940s having this same type of philosophy.
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@Cdkmedia Seems like my comment triggered you. Why is it that the most piss ant nations seem to have the most nationalist people. Screaming how powerful they are. "Greece is by no means weak." Seriously bro? It's a small banana republic ruled by foreigners.
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@lggxzy. The Azeris offered them very favorable terms in the early 2000s. They'd keep Karabakh and then like another 40% of 7 other regions they occupied. They refused it like idiots.
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@TheSilentpigs100 You might want to go read up on what was actually being negotiated all those yeras.
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@yyu7777 Except Armenia was the side which rejected the deal these guys are talking about.
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@cmatthew2719 Yes but the UN doesn't allow for brutally ethnically cleansing 850,00 civilians after illegally invading another nation's internationally recognized territory. That is essentially the action you're doing intellectual backflips to defend here.
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@josipag2185 Did you show the same concept with Armenia illegally invaded Azerbaijan in the 1990s and brutally ethnically cleansed 800,000 civilians? Or was that just "cool" in your book? You're lucky the Azeris don't think like you do and didn't treat the Armenians "the same" as the Armenians treated them. Also it is irrelevant to drag Iran into this, considering Armenia is taking steps to try to get closer to Nato, Iran is going to dump Armenia.
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@josipag2185 I fail to understand your logic. You seem okay with murdering people and forcibly removing them. but you have a problem with a conflict in which barely any civilians were killed? Are you saying that mass slaughtering civilians is better than not slaughtering them? Is that your argument?
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@LuisAldamiz The problem is more so Armenia tried to keep an unsustainable illegal occupation going against a much stronger foe.
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@MAXlMUS CSTO doesn't say anything about helping a member state with an illegally occupied territory. Just like the rest of the CSTO nations aren't helping Russia defend their illegally occupied territory in Ukraine.
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@LuisAldamiz You're right, Armenia ethnically cleansing 800,000 Azeri civilians in the 1990s is no laughing matter.
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@LuisAldamiz I think you fail to realize what self determination actually means in international law and how it works. It doesn't give you the right to invade another nation's internationally recognized territory and ethnically cleanse 800,000 civilians.
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@MAXlMUS They were with an illegal occupying force which even they knew was not sustainable. ANd they were right, it wasn't sustainable.
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@LuisAldamiz So let me ask you something. How do you feel the world would react of the Bosque people also invaded a region where only Spainards live and brutally ethnically cleansed 800,000 of them? Would that be part of "self determination" in international law? I think you really need to understand what actually happened in that area before having an emotional meltdown over it.
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@curio78 Not if CSTO nations think you’re in the wrong.
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@Ricardo, Yes because the middle east has been a bastion for tranquility in the past 100 years lol Those dictators and kings have surely improved the lives of their citizens.
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@hfur7758 I'm fairly sure no one has claimed it's the land of milk and honey. Also the people commenting here can't possibly be "arrogant" about Turkey because they probably aren't from Turkey. They're simply articulating a point of view which makes the original post's premise look ridiculous.
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@hfur7758 It would be nice to know what your point exactly is. Aside from rhetoric in response to posts which it has nothing to do with. You're right, no more bultalkies. Take your own advice please.
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I don't think any sane nation would have any interest in joining the EU (Soviet Union 2.0) which also happens to be a sinking ship. EU nations are more likely to leave the EU than new members joining.
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@Mario Martinovic, The Balkans will forever be under the influence of one power or another. They rarely ever rise and probably won't. Some are under the influence of America, some under the influence of Russia and now China and Turkey are moving in. The nations of the Balkans are too corrupt, too disorganized and too weak not to be under the influence of someone.
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@ahmadin5681 What does "ultra secular" mean? You're either secular or you aren't. That country hasn't passed one anti-secular law in the last 20 years. They literally have the same exact laws on the issues they had before this political party. So what in the world are you talking about?
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@clarky6156 So you want failed states with no government and another one which is bankrupt to have nuclear weapons? lol Real smart.
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Why do I always see delusional Iranian trolls in videos like this.
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@Khalilullah Khalil, this is true that Turkey will never become a super power. In fact if the United States ever falls, I don't think we'll see a superpower for an extremely long time. Not sure why you mentioned the EU though, the EU is fast becoming a joke on the international stage. They have zero ability to project any sort of power on anyone.
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@EmisoraRadioPatio Armenia being blockaided by most of their neighbors is actually more crushing than the sanctions Iran deals with.
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@koryunharutyunyan2307 Yes Iran is a horrible place to live. However dont' forget who you're comparing them too. Their average standard of life is still probably higher than Armenia.
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@morski_ludak2239 Eastern Europeans aren't having any babies so I doubt any sort of blood task would be enforced lol
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@Kenneth_James Assume we don't descend into civil war in the next 10 years. Or if you don't live in a big city where crime and murder rates are through the roof. I'm from Philly, trust me things aren't very rosy.
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@nextgeneration8309 They're turning on the AKP, not turning on their anti European stance. I don't think it's possible to repair the fractures between Turkey and the Europeans. Especially not at the grass roots level.
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@nextgeneration8309 How delusional are you exactly? We're talking about a group of people destroyed by inflation that have trouble affording food and you want us to believe their main concern is that they "want to be liked by western leaders." Your level of disconnect is terrifying.
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@Captainconditor. The treaty of 2020 was signed by Armenia proper, not the entity in NK. And yes they can claim the Zangezur passage legally. It was part of the 2020 ceasefire which Armenia signed. Being a nation which simply doesnt' adhere to what you sign puts you in a horrible spot in the future. Next time you're attacked the other side simply won't trust your ceasefire terms and keep coming. It looks like that is where Armenia is eventually headed. If Azerbaijan does have a fullscale invasion of Armenia I'll tell you exactly how it will play out. Iran will freak out, make a ton of threats and send weapons to Armenia. But they won't actually send their military over that mountain range and expose themselves to getting wrecked by Turkey. Then you have the west, like the Persians we'll scream and shout. Make threats and even slap a bunch of sanctions on Azerbaijan and that will be the full extent of it. We have no logistical way to get an army into that region without sparking ww3. No one is going to risk all that for Armenia. The only nation which can stop Azerbaijan from doing this is Russia. But considering how badly Armenia backstabbed Russia we'll see how that plays out. I wouldn't be shocked if Armenia as a country simply stopped existing in the next 50 years.
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There are no oil fields in that area of the Med. They're gas fields. Not sure I'd call their policy Neo Ottomanism but they sure as hell have expanded their influence to areas that looked like a pipe dream 20 years ago.
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@activatekruger446 And what will you do with the 20 million people who live there?
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@franke2273 Dude even the biggest fans of Turkey will scoff at your comment. Superpower? lol
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I'd imagine the Georgians might disagree with your assessment that Russia never attacks lol You're right there is an insane amount of anti Russian propaganda. It's so bad sometimes it borders on the ridiculous. But your claim that Russia has a defense strategy and not "attacks" is just as ridiculous. Russia might not be as aggressive as Nato but it sure as hell wants to be lol
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@calebbearup4282 I'm an outsider on this issue but I do find this kind of funny. You know why? A Greek essentially telling Nato "please fight my battles." So to basically put this into the most simple terms, as a Greek you want 2 things. Nato fight my wars Germany pay my bills. Anything else Yanni? You want free sandwiches too?
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@nicolaskrinis7614 If you find it surprising that a government will expand it's influence into any place it possibly can, I think you're going to be buying a bridge not selling one.
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@nicolaskrinis7614 You're not very bright are are you? I'd imagine you will be buying that bridge after all lol
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@pishi369 Yea bro, they're all terrified of the mighty Iran lol Didn't Iran also say they'd never allow the Azeris to take Nagorno Karabakh? What happened? Iran will complain, they'll hoot and they'll holler. But they wont' actually do anything. If they moved their military behond the comfort of that mountain range and into the Caucasus proper, they'd get wrecked. The Iranians aren't stupid
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@WolfCounty682 To be fair they're the only ally Armenia has which Armenia hasn't screwed over yet lol Yet being the key word. I'm hearing a lot of rumblings that Armenia wants to invite Nato bases into their territory. I'm sure Iran will take that as a backstab.
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@Monte_Melkonyan This is literally one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen in my life. 1. If Turkey needed Nato's permission for military action, how exactly did they intervene in Libya and Syria while Nato nations were screaming bloody murder? 2. Nato is America, you think America wouldn't be happy if Turkey went to war with Iran? That would be America's wet dream, they're looking for any reason to attack Iran or have someone else attack Iran. Have you not been paying attention? 3. Iran doesn't have a very large or well equipped standing army. Most of Iran's capabilities are through drones and missiles. They don't need to invest heavily on ground forces because their geography protects them. Do you not research anything before attempting to analyze it? Anyone who read your post probably feelings dumber for having read it.
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@MrDante1047 Iran did what it was capable of doing. It sent as much arms to Armenia has it could. Which is again what would probably happen if the Zangazur region is pushed. There is no way Iran would send their ground forces into such an exposed area only for them to get wrecked. Aside from sending weapons, maybe, just maybe they might have the balls to fire some rockets.
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@MrDante1047 If what you're saying were true, they wouldn't have been holler, hooting, threatening and sending massive amounts of weapons. In the end they could do nothing, if they could have done something they would have considering how they reacted to it. The next conflict will be the same. Iran cannot project any sort of hard power there. Iran has it's strengths and it's weaknesses. No chance it would ever pull it's ground forces out of the safety of behind the mountains and put it into flat lands. They're not stupid.
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No they sold them natural gas, which the Turks are using to heat their homes.
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@Jen Boettiger, Actually that idea seemed ridiculous before 9/11. The idea gained traction after 9/11. The world needed a model of Islam that wasn't extremist and violent. Why do you think their government were heralded as "great reformers" and "a model for all Muslim states" from 2001 up to 2010. What you're saying is in fact the opposite of reality.
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@elturco2421 You really are insane aren't you. We weren't debating if Turkey is right or wrong in these tensions. We were debating the insanity of your first post which made absolutely no sense. I didn't call you an Arab. I said you have a lot of habits just like them. Including how irrational you are in this debate. Most people from Turkey I've met are also extremely corrupt, like Arabs.
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@987lllkeylll I'm fairly sure Egypt became destabilized because a military person decided to use force to take power, not sure what that has to do with Turkey. Libya, well their internationally recognized government invited Turkey to help them. Again perfectly legal. Turkey in Syria, yes on that front you are 100% right. Some of things they have done in Syria are outright horrible actions against their neighbor. So 2/3 of your talking points were false. How about sticking to facts so at least the few things you're right about don't get drowned out in your bullsh!t.
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@gjc1 That was basically the premise of your entire post though. Basically claiming something you don't agree with to be BS. Not really having a rational explanation as to why.
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@gjc1 Actually the Greek government is pretty open about the fact that by treaty those islands shouldn't be militarized. Their argument is that their self defense is more important than those treaties. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with that argument but at least it's an argument. What you're saying literally goes against what both Greek and Turkish governments agree is true. So please, cut the bullshit. Also a random person showing a map doesn't make for official state policy. I've seen maps of Golden Dawn government officials showing Greece taking a chunk of territory from at least 3 other nations. No one is idiotic enough to claim this is official Greek policy. Yet you're bold enough to make such an argument on Turkey. Unlike you I have no horse in this race. Both sides make arguments, some are good arguments some are bad. But neither side is officially making any arguments half as ridiculous as you. You say you don't want to argue yet you keep making statements with holes so big anyone can drive a tractor trailer through it. If you make insane or blatantly false comments in a forum like this, someone will call out your bullsh!t.
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@sherifnabil9663 Everything you mentioned can turn Turkey into a very strong regional power. The OP was correct with his statement, I don't' 'think people realize what it takes to be a superpower. You need the ability to protect power across the entire globe. If USA power wanes, I don't think we'll see another superpower like that for many generations.
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@yousefdessouki8903 It doesn't take much to be popular on the Arab street. Look what your competition is?
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@yousefdessouki8903 I'd imagine compared to the extremely rulers this society produces, any outside person would look better than what they have. You know the old saying, "Arabs will be Arabs."
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@yousefdessouki8903 I don't think one needs to hear rumors to understand the reality of the Arab world. Obviously this dude Erdogan has nothing to do with you, he was actually elected by his people and can be voted out by his people. As bad a ruler as he is, again he'd be a step up for any Arab nation. In fact any leader in the world (good or bad) would be a step up for any Arab nation.
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@Thinking Man, I think the possibility of an alliance with America died when the Obama administration tried to overthrow their democratically elected government by force and then started arming armed militia groups which are blowing up schools and hospitals in their country. So I'd imagine Turkey could have been an ally of the USA if these things didn't happen. Trump tried fixing the issues but Biden went right back to the Obama policy. The idea of an alliance between these two nations is now a pipe dream, nothing can fix those cracks.
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@numdd4717 You're really not understanding the point I am making are you.
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@necesitoMuchodiNero 1.Because they have no interest in doing so. (Why they don't today) 2.Because they're not stupid. (Why they won't tomorrow) 3.Because their geography is not condusive to pouring in those types of resources for a blue water Navy which doesn't have a blue water port. (Why they never will) The most powerful Turkey can possibly be would be akin to a super powerful regional power. A lot like the Ottomans or the Romans. That is basically the extent due to their geographical constraints. Not to mention that is probably the extent of their wants, needs and ambitions as well.
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@y.9704 To be fair you are a regional power now. Also the Ottomans weren't a "super power." Super powers didn't exist back then because no nation had the ability to project power across the globe. The Ottomans were a hyper powerful regional power.
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@ikman3410 You don't need a crystal ball to understand geography.
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@LordByron1821 No they haven't forgotten there are bigger fish in the pond, they're acutely aware of the fact. Which is why they flex their military muscles in a rational way against extremely weak nations. Like Syria and Greece. It doesn't take much to bully a guy in a wheelchair.
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@mpouzbouris1 You're literally trying to compare Tukey to Iraq? Seriously?
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