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If Mr. Takis's parents and their friends didn't decide to go full Adolf Hitler and try to slaughter every single member of a small minority group on the island, I'd imagine Mr Takis wouldn't have these issues. It is sad if you think about it.
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@wat4089 Screaming propaganda when someone confronts you with the truth isn't exactly a winning strategy in a debate. Fact of the matter is the Greek Cypriot leaders weren't shy about publicly announcing what they were planning on doing. It was a massive ethnic cleansing campaign so in the words of the Greek Cypriot leaders "Not one of them would be left on the island." To thunderous applause by the way. You can choose to confront reality, or delve into insanity. It's your call. But if you simply can't come around to say that murdering an entire minority group is wrong, you're lost my man.
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@Michael_Petrou So you expected them to stop the genocide how? Or is it your contention that the invasion was a bad idea and it would have been better to simply allow an entire minority group to be wiped off the island? Is that your premise?
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Even a paradise can turn into hell if enough racism takes route where one group tries to completely and utterly slaughter every single member of a minority group. These things tend to get ugly. Hopefully the majority on the island so many years later doesn't harbor such murderous feelings anymore. From reading comments sections however I can't be so sure.
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@garryrichardson4572 Living here in the United States I agree with you that things aren't going entirely too well. However I do not see a Cyprus type situation evolving here. I honestly can't think of any scenario where the majority group wakes up one day and decides they want to slaughter every man woman and child of minority group. These things are extremely rare in human history. Not to say we don't have other problems which could potentially be our downfall. But a Cyprus type situation is too far fetched.
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@Michael_Petrou Few nations will be in chaos for as long as Cyprus has been. I do feel bad for anyone living there for the past 4000 years. It's so strategically located that nearly anyone with the ability to do so has invaded that island. First it was indigenous people living there, then they were invaded by the expanding Greeks and hellenized. Then they were invaded by the expanding Persians and Persianized. Then they were invaded by the Arabs and Arabized. Then they were invaded by the Ottomans. Then taken by the Brits. It simply never ends for those people and it probably never will.
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@stewartadd5605 I'm not sure taking the entire island would have been fair on the majority ethnic group on the island. I'd imagine what should have happened is what happened. The majority group has a majority of the land and they're safe and happy. The minority group has a smaller share but are safe and happy. Few military interventions in the past 100 years have garnered such positive results. There hasn't been bloodshed on that island since.
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Mujtaba Gillani, This is probably why reunification is probably never going to happen. This wasn't the first or last time the international system has made serious mistakes. Keeping the people in the north punished via isolation is insanity. All for the crime of defending themselves I guess. History will not judge this well. .
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Protected militarily? Are you serious? Which European nation besides the UK (and that is just barely) has the ability to protect military power that far off it's shores? If someone attacked Aruba, what military will the Dutch be sending over to protect you? lol They literally dont' even have the ability to ferry enough troops over there.
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But enough of them wanted it to trigger a mass slaughter of a small minority group. When enough people want mass slaughter, the people who don't want it unfortunately need to deal with the consequences as well. Id' imagine there were people in Germany in the late 1930s that didn't want to slaughter minority groups. They did however deal with the consequences of such actions all the same. It's a sad world.
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Actually in any metric and statistic you can come up with Libya was by far a better place to live before the coup.
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What a wonderful idea. Lets simply sweep the attempted ethnic cleansing of a small minority group on an island right under that proverbial rug. Nothing to see here, never happened....
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France is still an Empire but I doubt it will last much longer. They're losing their grip everywhere. I'm not sure if the French economy can survive without it's colonies.
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@goatruthless616 I too find it hilarious seeing France continue to embarrass themselves in the international arena. Not gonna lie, it is kind of humorous no?
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@Michael_Petrou Obviously they wanted ton control half the island indefinitely, it's strategically advantageous to them. Not to mention the fact that did you really expect the minority group in the north to rejoin with the people who recently went full Hitler on them? It's the old adage. If you do stupid things you get stupid prizes. I find it surreal that the side who attempted ethnic cleansing is also the side trying to take the moral high ground on the consequences of said ethnic cleansing. It's absolutely surreal. Not to say I don't feel bad for everyone on that island for what they've been through in the past 4000 years.
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@wat4089 Is that why most the people on that island have an insane amount of Arab DNA? I've met a few Greek Cypriots here and there, most of them wouldn't look out of place if you dropped them in the middle of Bagdad. What in the world are you talking about. It wasn't just cultural assimilation, it was also ethnic mixing. Which is why today you see a bunch of Arabs speaking Greek on that island.
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@michael_c_petrou I'd imagine most German people weren't behind Hitler's initial coup, most Italians might not have been behind Musolini's coup. Yet both nations had to deal with the consequences of their actions no? I doubt someone would tell the Russians and Americans to stop pushing into Germany because most German's didn't support the Nazi party's rise. The fact is the people weren't against it enough to rise up against it. Not to mention in Cyprus the people seemed to be well and content to see the minority massacred, I'd imagine it suited a lot of people's personal interests. Free land and property for example. Also if they took a poll today (maybe you can find it somewhere) I'd imagine a very large portion of Greek Cypriots would vote for union with Greece no?
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@Michael_Petrou America still has a military base in Germany. The Russians occupied East Germany until not too long ago. They didn't leave because they wanted to, they left because their empire collapsed. The Brits are a bad example as they turned into a joke after ww2. Most right wing genocidal regimes killed their own people as well, it doesn't excuse their genocide, what makes the Greek Cypriots so special? According to your logic Turkey shouldn't be held accountable for the Armenian genocide because it had a right wing military dictatorship that also killed it's own citizens? Do you realize what you're saying here? I get it, your emotions are pushing you into some strangely irrational waters. I can't say I can hold it against you.
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@Michael_Petrou No coup in Italy? You might want to crack open a history book on how Mussolini took power.
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@andreashadjiantonis2596 I'm not sure how the Ottomans going full Hitler between 600 and 100 years ago excuses the Greek Cypriots trying to exterminate an entire minority group on a small island not too long ago. According to your logic any group of people can use events from hundreds and thousands of years ago to slaughter civilians today and that would make it okay? Is that your argument here? If Mexico walked into California and started killing every man woman and child who wasn't Mexican, your logic would dictate that this action would be a good thing to do? I know it's hard for you to be rational because you're so emotional about this but you have to try.
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@michael_c_petrou I don't think he's capable of understanding that there was probably someone there well before his ancestors as well. Humans have always been a migratory species.
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@joelthorstensson2772 I don't think anyone needs to believe or disbelieve "that a man wants to murder another group that is identical to him in all but name." It actually happened in Cyprus, they weren't shy about talking about their intentions in public either. I'd also imagine it would be impossible to undertake a huge ethnic cleansing campaign if 99% were against it. With numbers like that, you wouldn't even have enough people to carry out the killings. But the killings did happen and they must have had a lot more than 1% support. If not, it would have been an impossible undertaking.
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@Michael_Petrou But like with German people and Hitler they were willing to turn a blind eye if not cheer on massive ethnic cleansing. You also forget I mentioned Mussolini who himself took powerful via a coup. Italy still paid the price for his misadventures. Credit to the Italians though they eventually dragged the guy through the streets.
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@wat4089 Very nice, you're playing the victim blaming card. A small minority group gets brutally ethnically cleansed but it's their fault right? lol Also calling the wholesale slaughter of civilians a "civil war" is rich. On a scale of 1-10 how horrible of a human being are you?
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@wozamigamez592 Same intent different scope.
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@alexrzr They have no chance of winning. But they are doing A LOT of damage. A lot more than anyone thought they would, including the Russians. Not sure how much of this has to do with how well the Ukrainians are fighting and how much it has to do with the Russian army being more inept than anyone thought. In the end though the Russians will get what they want in Ukraine. The question is how much damage can they take in doing so.
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@El Dimos Karam Most Turks in certain parts of Turkey yes. Not even close to being a majority in the entire country. There is a hodge podge of DNA over there pending on which region of the country you look at.
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@rogerdodger8813 So how many years have to pass for people not to be considered "later comers" 700 years? 5000 years? Especially when you take into account humans have been a migratory species since caveman days.
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@rogerdodger8813 I'm not sure of many people that deny the existence of earlier people. So now according to your logic there are no late comers?
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