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@3deeguy
The bible predicts...Know how many times I heard that said? My parents heard that said? And my grandparents heard that said? and my great, great grandparents... Many civilizations have come and gone, and God had nothing to do with it, man did. It's a nice story and all. (The bible) But my faith is in the 100's of millions of NDE's, people have from all over the world, from every faith and no faith in God. There is no judgement. No hell, no Satan, nothing biblical. it's just a story and you all are just so obsessed; you can't see the reality of it all. 'Life.' You're only holding yourselves back from growing, learning and evolving the way we we're created too. It has always just been about Living, life in love. That's it. But somebodies came along and found a way to control the masses of that time, using fear, (Believe or else...Satan, hell, demons...) And a whole lot of people fell for it. But it's ok if you believe in that story. Because you just may end up coming back and do this thing called life all over again. (Any wonder the church left out reincarnation!) Maybe that's what the Divine source is trying to tell humanity with these NDE's. (There just NOT getting it!) Maybe they'll get all these folks experiences? A WHOLE LOT of them? Then they'll realize, it's all about LOVE. Good luck with your church.
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@Jimthompson77
Sorry my friend. No going back to the bondage, discrimination, biased thought and belief of Christianity.
You say, 'God is a relationship not a religion.' That's directly my point! Why I exorcised religion/Christianity from my life. Religion/people/Christianity kept me in this narrow, small box of understanding of what 'God' The Divine source of everything is. Don't do that, do this. Read this, don't read that. Think this, but don't think that... I couldn't take it any longer! My soul/spirit was screaming to get out of that prison of thought and understanding. Think of this... Mathew 14:31 Even Jesus Christ said to Peter, 'Why you of little faith, why do you doubt.' Christians can't even walk on water, let alone create miracles out of love and need as Jesus did. HOW am I or anyone else supposed to believe in what Christians say, ESPECIALLY when Satan, Demons, Sin, judgement is mentioned as an excuse to make one to believe out of fear. Thank you for making that point. Humanity doesn't need religion/Christianity!
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@tomheijtink8688
Love being a homophone. Love has many meanings as you know. Love for what? Love for what, is irrelevant. It's more like, not living in anger, remorse, jealousy, hate, deceit... Love is living without those qualities/mindsets. I love animals, people, the planet, plants, yet I do not come up to them and tell them, 'I love you man,' to the tree or the squirrel in the park. That would be just weird. That kind of Love Tom.
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'I am' an Ex-Christian! (Roman Catholic)
As a young teenager I asked the questions I'm sure many asked before. Why this, that. Why not this and that... As a young, dumb teenager wanting and seeking 'The truth,' regardless of what the truth was. It was when I read and 'especially' what was being said, did I begin to question Christianity. It started with, 'Believe or else.' Why would a loving God tell his children, or else? That sounded like my parents, my friend's parents and all parents.
Then Sin came into play. We're sinners? Of course, the church explained why we are sinners. My young adult alarms started to go off. Then Revelations and the fear. My God, what a hateful, abusive, mean...Father! (I know of those kinds of fathers. I nearly ended my own stepfather's life for abusing myself, sister and mother.) You want to talk about living in FEAR. I lived it and fear is not a molecule less of pure evil!
Then I came to a passage in Mathew 30, 31. All throughout the Bible, Jesus created miracles out of love and need for those around him and then Peter who came to Jesus near the sea and walked on the sea, briefly. 'You of little faith why do you doubt' Peter walked on water. That's what the bible/passage said. So, Christians can create miracles out of love and need...why are not Christians creating miracles out of love and need? EVERY Christian should be creating miracles, right? It's in the Bible. (I was literally to 'shut up.') No one could give me a clear answer, but lots of meaningless bible quotes.
But why is this world full of hunger, homelessness, hate... Then the sexual perversions of the priests and leaders of the church. This can't be so! These are leaders of the Divine. The ones we look up too for guidance and direction...then I learned of the inquisitions. All 3 of them that we know of. 50+ million Pagens executed over the years. Now I understood why, The Church uses fear. They can't exterminate them any longer, and now uses fear. 'Believe or else!' How can this religion be Divine? HOW?
That's when I decided, this religion is utterly a deception by men, if not worse. I am an Ex-Christian and I want EVERYONE to know why! The church uses the Devil, Demons, Satan as an excuse, blaming them for everything and not taking the responsibilities on themselves. This was in the early 80's.
Then NDE's came into the picture. (2000's) The Church claims they are a deception of Satan. 2022, now NDE's are excepted, but only if Jesus is in them. (How stupid/ignorant does 'The Church' think I/we are?
From day one, my alarms we're going off with this religion. Now I know, 'The Truth,' in so many ways. This religion was/is a deception from day one and still is.
10's of millions of NDE's in America alone. Billions is not out of the question. In fact, the numbers point to ALL of humanity will have a beautiful, loving, forgiving, compassionate... afterlife. The numbers don't lie! Now I have to wait for, is all the Bible quotes that mean absolutely NOTHING!
I do expect for this comment to be hidden/removed. It's what the church does. Hide the truth! Thank you, my friends in love. Everybody in love, even my ex-Christians.
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As an Ex-Christian and I listened to Howard's experience about 10 times now from as far back as 2014. Howard does NOT come off as an Atheist as he claims. He prayed to Jesus as a child, so he had the knowledge and belief of Christianity as a child and into his older years. He had the fear in him. I believe he and many Christians, religious and non-religious folk's pass, they bring that knowledge, 'fears, beliefs' with them and that is what forms their experience. No one is going to have the same experience, regardless of one's faith. One is an individual and one's experience is for them and them only. The one thing with NDE's which is universal is ones 'free will; and the 'love' that surrounds them. As in all the other 100's of millions/billions of NDE's around the planet show, YOU have the free will (For the most part.) to choose your destiny. 'Do you want to spend eternity in hell... whatever situation one may be in or do you move on to a better place. Howard said in one interview, while in THAT place, "Love is all that mattered. Nothing else mattered" I'm really surprised Howard is saying that Hell is a real place. In that experience it was for him, not in reality, which so may NDE's will claim, there is NO HELL other than the hell you choose to create. Just sharing.
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Woo-Hoo, thank you my Family. I EXCAPED Portland, O!
One week, this Wednesday I left Portland for the East coast, where I'll spend the remaining of my days & night out of that...HOLE!
This would make for a good movie...The Meth, The Drugs, The Protesting, The Crime, The Californians, The Homelessness, The Boarded, Empty Buildings... Was such a GREAT city 20 years ago. Extreme Liberalism, wasting a great city to utter waste...Californians sure love this city though.
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For those Christians, Atheists, Materialists, Spiritualists... Regardless of what and how you believe. EVERYONE is in for a delightful Suprise. Taking in account of free will, there is no darkness, no nothing, no sin, no hell, no revengeful God... What does humanity have, that says this is true? 100's of millions of experiences. Not some book or passed down traditions that may or may not be true. This is what many of us asked when we we're young adults. 'What if we could go into the future or wherever and come back and tell of our experiences.' Subjective I know. We all thought it would have to be a LOT of experiences...that was in the 70's. Now on the 2020's, we are having those experiences. A lot more than I could have imagined back then. Some of us get it. Some of us don't and some of us don't want to get 'It' at all. Ignore it, except it, deny it, and It's going to happen to EVERYBODY. (Death) Like I said, get ready for a delightful, beautiful surprise! 😊
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The politicians, scientists, 'religious', activists and the elite are not deciding who lives and dies. They're the only ones seriously talking about it. Who else is telling humanity an alternate explanation or way in solving climate change that's not scientists, politicians, activists...? This is easy math people. More people, means more everything that's bad for humanity. More consumption, waste, pollution, crime... So, what do YOU think the answer would be? Humanity has to cut/slow world population. Plain and simple, how we go about that is not as plain and simple though. The world has to STOP growing, that's it!
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Are people really that STUPID? Guess I do have to remind people what year this is. 2021! Yes it's true and their are cameras EVERYWHERE and yet, something at some point, for some reason makes people just, STOP THNKING. This driver has a serious defense for being Mentally ill and can no longer mingle with the public for any reason. Again people, it's 2021, not 1951 and you didn't go back into the future. Cameras, Phones with cameras, CCTV, Trail cameras, Satellite cameras...We need a new law in this country called 'The Stupid Peoples Law' for people just like this, STUPID PEOPLE. Do you know one of them?
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What if...I believe in reincarnation, NDE's, Paranormal...With what humanity knows of NDE's, Life after death and regression therapy. It's real. I do not believe EVERYONE is reincarnated though. Only that it does exist.
What if the reason why we can't remember is, it's not for us to remember? (This came to me last night, so...) For those that believe we have a Soul/Spirit.
I ask these questions:
-How is our spirit/soul consciousness in relation to our mind/body consciousness? There seems to be a degree of separation there. We know when the body gets compromised (Near Death/Death.) our spirit can just leave. In OBE's the spirit can roam freely and does. What is that personal relationship, if any? Maybe there is NO personal relationship at all. That spirit/soul chose this body, time & space and here 'I am.' I asked myself. 'If I can't remember what I'm supposed to learn.' How am I to learn? Because it's not for me to remember to learn. It's my spirit, that has something to learn, and it so happens that I'm left at the wheel driving this darn thing.
-Why do we get sent back in our NDE's? Time and time again, we're told. It's NOT your time. It's actually NOT my Spirits time, I'm just doing the driving. All humanity needs to do is, LIVE YOUR LIVES, hopefully in peace and love...I tried. But I have much more questions...
-Am I more like my spirit or is my spirit more like me?
-Is the reason why I shouldn't hurt myself at a young age, (Suicide) is because my spirit has to come back? (Him, not me. lol)
Now for a moment on Religion...That's one of many reasons why I fired Christianity. I would have NEVER found this out! Religion would have kept me from this and that would have been the worst Sin of all! Now what is it my spirit should learn? It's all about, 'The Love!'
p.s. I better not be coming BACK!
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@marcusonesimus3400
Yup. Make no mistake, Christianity has done plenty of good for humanity over the years. They are very good humanitarians for sure. 5 ⭐'s out of 5 from me.
What I'm talking about is the validity of the bible and The Truth. I was brought up, the Holy Bible was divinely written. Inspired by God/The holy spirit. When one looks at ALL the discrepancies in the bible and the church. I had to ask myself (Many are asking the same today.) How can God/the Holy spirit, the Church be so dysfunctional, corrupt and down right evil? How do you think the annihilation of 40 million people be Divine? The rape, sexual molestation of, women and children, be Divine? on and on...
You see, it's NOT about good works that going to get you too... The whole Christian narrative is off. Present day, 2022; it doesn't even make sense anymore except by delusional individuals. (Plenty of them) (Your getting me started. Have to slow down.)
Then take in account of the NDE narrative. 100's of millions/billions of non-Christian accounts of an after life with no hell, sin, retribution, Satan, Demons... EVERYONE regardless of religion, faith, is shown NOTHING but love and acceptance into a after life beyond our imagination. (Till now. NDE'rs describe it daily!) So, go ahead, Believe, don't believe. I've seen the truth and religion/Christianity isn't it. EVERYBODY is loved no matter what they believe in, whether they know it or not. That's what I have to say marcus!
p.s. The bible quotes, The Satan, Devil & Demon calling was great in the 1st-19th centuries. Not today. Today, it's all bout 'The Love. I'm going to bed. Don't forget to say your prayers marcus.
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It's the MIND SET in America, that is fundamentally wrong and disfunctional. From greed, government, addiction, to religion. Homelessness is utterly a train wreck for Americans needing help.You give people help, they take advantage of the help and the cycle comes full circle with all parties. There needs a common goal, standard of living with all people, while being independent as individuals. I just don't see it getting better unless a HUGE calamity hits the country that effects everyone. Nuclear attack, civil war, epic virus outbreak the kills millions, meteor hit...that we have to start over. As long as we have that wedge of poor vs. rich. We'll stay right where we always have. Us vs. them...the cycle continues.
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I started out agnostic since 1987...An Ex-Christian since 2001. As a teenager brought up in Roman Catholicism. (Not fun nor rewarding!) My personality/mental makeup that may have something to do with my past life, if I had one. I question EVERYTHING that hits my internal radar. (I literally feel a vibration, thus question...) I been spending a good part of my young 62 years, thinking why/how someone can believe in something (Christianity) with NO evidence other than a Book. A subjective book about a history at best. And the internal moral structure of this organization, 'The Church' is nothing less than, dysfunctional on a good day. (We all know the history)
My Question: As mentioned above. 'How does one believe' in something so decisively as to believe with No doubt, with every part of their being, that it is real! By FEAR and not ask/question the source of that message? Believe or else you will burn in...a bad place for eternity. Oh crap, I'm sold. What do I have to do, so I don't go there. NO ONE, takes that kind of approach, any where else in society with anything!
'You need to buy this or your going to burn in...Donate this much $$$$$$$$$ or burn in...If you don't love me the way I want you too or your going to burn in...' Does Not Happen in real life, that I know of. So How does this happen? I'm literally perplexed! Have these folks been given a subminimal message? A subminimal mark of The beast mind you. It can't be FEAR alone, can it Sam/people? END of Q.
p.s. I'm not an Atheist. Mon-theist who believes in the Near Death Experience narrative. Millions have had them and some with veridical evidence that leaves NO DOUBT that something BIG is going on here. Plus I have had my own person experiences, that made me Question more than normal. Love everything you say Sam. It just makes sense. Thanks Sam Harris!
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This book, messages have been quoted for over 1,500+ years. Yet, no miracles of Christians out of love and need. ('You of little faith why do you doubt.') The sins of The Church are too numerous to name, and not slowing down. War/Death from religion is in the billions over time and the world is NOT getting better. This faith/religion is NOT WORKING!
The Near Deth Experience (YT won't allow me to say it.) shows humanity, it's about The Love. The love of Jesus, Buddha, Mom & Dad, Humanity...LOVE! That's it. Anything else is just manmade drama. The bible is just another history book. A good history book at that.
It's time for humanity to move out of the Bible Dark Ages and evolve into what was meant for humanity to be. A loving human being and NOT a hateful, angry, resentful, evil human being.
It's about the Love!
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The sentiments with most of humanity. Fear is the basis of everything we are taught, feel, sense, think is to fear...and we see it every day. It's central to humanities environment. Fear is one of the most intense emotions/feelings we have. This is what is GREAT about NDE's. The millions of NDE's and growing. One is, we don't die. (fear of death) another is, we are shown nothing but Love and Light. No judgement, No Hell or Heaven, No condemnation, No suffering. That is something we are taught, in the here and now, religion and society. (Fear again.) Fear is a temporary emotion for the hear and now. Ever had a moment of intense happiness, joy, kindness, hope and love? I have and fear is no where to be found or seen. I'm caught up in THAT moment. That's YOUR free will. YOU have the strength and power to create THAT moment. The Love and Light...that's where my 'FEAR' leaves me more and more and more everyday. This is what reinforces that moment, these NDE experiences. (Millions of them...) The VERIDICAL evidence! Verified by ordinary Doctors, Nurses, Family members...who don't even believe if this stuff.
They show these NDE's are REAL and this is beyond exciting, beyond everything I ever wondered about! (I've talked enough, so.) I believe that darkness will leave you, Warren James Cook if YOU want it too. YOU have the Free Will to make it so...We all do!
I Apologize for the rant.
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Humanity has control issues. Ego? Religion did it the best. They created an arch villains. (Satan, Hell, Devils and Demons) Believe or ELSE, and nearly everyone bought right into it. Governments do the same with laws and regulations. Do it or else. Couples and Marriages. If you don't change the way I want you, I'm leaving you! Media... Can't say enough about Media. It's on the news or a documentary, billboards and commercials, so it has to be true. Believe or else YOU are screwed! Fear & Control, Fear & Control, Fear & Control... Now the weather/climate. Oh look, the weather/climate is changing, and this is why and what YOU must do, or else. And this what it ALL COMES DOWN TOO people. Money$$$$$$$$$$$... Everyone wants YOUR money and this what THEY will say and do to get it. Reincarnation: I see why religion removed this. Hell is so much better than having to return and do this thing called life all over again. Believe or ELSE!
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Love this! NOBODY believes in ANYTHING when we are born. At least I didn't. First thing I was taught, Religion/God and I was taught how, where, when to believe and WHAT to believe or else! Then I became a Adult and exercised my Free Will, I thought for myself! Pam Reynold was my first touch with NDE's, then Betty Eadie, Nancy Rynes, Eben Alexander...Then the veridical NDE's. The evidence. This was NOT a simple exercise in math or science. This made sense, I could feel it within myself. A truth unlike what that I was taught as a child. This is where 'I am' some 20 years later. (62 now) With my own experiences that I didn't know how to make sense, till now.
Millions of these NDE's World Wide, regardless of your faith you we're taught, where you we're born, your fears, joys and hope for yourself and loved ones. These experiences are for everyone to explore in your own person way. (No one needs to tell you. YOU will know!)
For me, the message is CRYSTAL CLEAR and needs NO explanation or clarification. It's just about 'The Love!"
Now everyone reading this, can complicate this from what WE we're taught, or not. It's YOUR free will to choose and their lies YOUR power and strength. Your free will to choose!
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For me. What will replace Religion is, The individual person, will replace Religion! Instead of looking outward for validation, redemption (That word alone is sinful, if I believed in sin.) salvation, meaning...we will and need to look inward for that what we seek. (Nobody seeks the same anything.) As we have a Brain consciousness, we also have a Soul consciousness. You know, that thing/energy that never dies, that is the core of our whole self. Long after our brain consciousness is gone! Like those that seek 'Proof' in others, to satisfy their curiosity. Never going to happen and if so, it will not survive the test of Time.
Your Soul is what we need to communicate and connect too, to find what each special, unique individual is looking for. The answers are in you...(No I can't suggest where you should look.) That's for YOU Butterfly, to figure out. That's all I got. I'm hungry.
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Ironic. Everywhere east of the Rockies is getting plenty of rain, West of the Rockies is drier than my Ex-wife's...Minuscules of moisture. Reservoirs all across the west, are evaporating like, you know. The problem is, no one knows what to do. Hey people, Las Vegas may be no more. Do we, Peoples of Planet Earth really want that to happen? (I don't mind.) What I'm saying is, No one can figure this out. For 20 years, everybody has been living on a prayer and hoping the winter snows come back. We, (I'm moving back east!) are in Dire Straights here, while you folks out East are kayaking down Broadway. We're cooking our meals on the hoods of our cars. HOT! We can pipe oil, but water? Stay dry & cool folks. Somewhere out west.
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I moved to Portland in the late 90's from Phoenix, I know, right? Best decision I ever made. My kind of people... then around 2010 you could feel a storm approaching. WOW, never saw this storm coming. Riots, corruption, covid, drugs, Californian's... storm is still not letting up. It may be getting stronger after all these years. Long story shorter. I live in sleepy town Maryland. Quite, safe, nothing happens, no excitement, boring as... still better that whats happening in Portland. Maybe I'll watch one of those Apocalyptic movies again to remind me of Portland.
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I'm an Ex-Christian for GOOD reason. I believe in NDE's, ghosts, spirits, reincarnation, life after death...
It is asked why 'We' feel the need to believe...Observation! Humanity has seen and witnessed many strange anomalies since the beginning of time and Man has written about some of those anomalies. Some of those things man has written about, is in the form of facts, (Religion) when in fact, It's NOT. Over the centuries, humanity has been literally told what to believe or ELSE. Humanity (most) believes in what they witness and see, more so than what they are told. Thus the HUGE gap in what humanity believes in.
Why does a confessed Christian become an Ex-Christian? Because what he was told as a child, is NOT what he experiences as an adult. I observed things in life that contradict what religion is telling me and I'm being deceived by Demons and The Devil. That's more than my ignorance level can tolerate.
With EVERYTHING religious ones talk about. The power of the Holy Spirit, The Divine, Faith, God...Why is it, NOT one single Christian can create miracles or walk on water? Why?
p.s. Just a few centuries ago. Most people would be put to death for talking/believing in what is spoken about here and YOU wonder why people believe in Religion...FEAR!
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