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Comments by "" (@victormeidan1062) on "How Zionists collaborated with the Nazis, in conversation with Tony Greenstein | EI Podcast" video.
There is nothing here. This stuff was known for decades & decades.
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But this occurred in the 1930s. The mass murder only started after ww2 was well under way. Virtually everyone collaborated with the Nazis in the 1930s - Brits, Americans, Poles, Czechs, Greeks, French & everyone. No big deal to say that pre-Israelis collaborated with them in the 1930s because everyone was.
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Yes, they both have a "z" and a "n".
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@Criticalthinker605 You have not read my response, have you ? People living in the 1930s, did NOT know AT THAT TIME, the danger of Nazi ideology. They could not imagine what would occur a few years later.
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logiclemonadesassybawstinm3146 I think the big walls were built after those things called suicide bombings.
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@BwanaFinklestein Remember, it was only until Kristallnacht in November 1938 when the first hundred or so Jews were murdered. Until that time, Jews had to wear yellow stars, not allowed to visit park, theatres, encouraged to emigrate etc etc. Nobody in the 1930s could imagine what would happen in the 1940s. You are viewing history retroactively. People who lived through the period could only judge what the Nazis were doing at the time - NOT what they were going to end up doing.
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This antisemitic video purposely CONFUSES people between what Germany was doing in the 1930s versus what Germany did after 1941. Until Kristallnacht in Nov 1938, virtually no Jews were killed in Nazi Germany. Yes, their jobs & livelihoods were removed, not allowed to enter parks, theatres, cinemas, had to wear a yellow star etc etc. But nobody was being killed. After Kristallnacht, the first several hundred Jews were murdered out of the tens of thousands arrested. So during 1939, Jews were facing persecution in Germany and the occasional murder. Yet the chance of the latter was still statistically very low. Kindertransport should be analyzed in this light. It is like Ben Gurion's statement of 1938: "I he would rather save just half of German Jewish children by sending them to British Mandate Palestine than all of them by sending them to the UK" Ben Gurion was talking about saving the Jews from UNPLEASANTARIES. Ben Gurion & Nobody imagined what would happen a few years later.
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@jeanetteburke4920 Well, my basic point still stands. What was happening in the 1930s was different from a few years later. The video tries to confuse you.
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This antisemitic video purposely CONFUSES people between what Germany was doing in the 1930s versus what Germany did after 1941. Until Kristallnacht in Nov 1938, virtually no Jews were killed in Nazi Germany. Yes, their jobs & livelihoods were removed, not allowed to enter parks, theatres, cinemas, had to wear a yellow star etc etc. But nobody was being killed. After Kristallnacht, the first several hundred Jews were murdered out of the tens of thousands arrested. So during 1939, Jews were facing persecution in Germany and the occasional murder. Yet the chance of the latter was still statistically very low. Kindertransport should be analyzed in this light. It is like Ben Gurion's statement of 1938: "I he would rather save just half of German Jewish children by sending them to British Mandate Palestine than all of them by sending them to the UK" Ben Gurion was talking about saving the Jews from UNPLEASANTARIES. Nobody imagined what would happen a few years later.
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@DMC1982 Re: "Grun" You do know that in the 18th Century, most European Jews had to take these German / Slavic-sounding family names ? They are NOT the original family names of these people.
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@Criticalthinker605 Yes, the Nazis knew what they were doing. So did the levantine Arabs and their Nazi leader - Haj Amin who was a close friend of Shitler. Good point !
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@Criticalthinker605 Yes, Hamas and their Uncle Haj Amin collaborated with the Nazis. The Uncle was close friend of Shitler.
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@deangullburry86 Many Jews worked with or made arrangements with the Nazis until the outbreak of war. This was BEFORE the Nazis were understood to be super-evil, dangerous force that they turned out to be after 1939. One tactic favored by antisemites is to focus on Jews working with Nazi Germany (eg the Ha'vara agreement) before WW2, without explaining the time period.
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@maureenmannion6748 The so called "criminality" is the results of the suicide bombings, truck rammings, stabbings, shootings and rapes committed by the fakestinians themselves.
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Nope. Israel existed in antiquity. Nazi Germany were invented in the 1920s.
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This antisemitic video purposely CONFUSES people between what Germany was doing in the 1930s versus what Germany did after 1941. Until Kristallnacht in Nov 1938, virtually no Jews were killed in Nazi Germany. Yes, their jobs & livelihoods were removed, not allowed to enter parks, theatres, cinemas, had to wear a yellow star etc etc. But nobody was being killed. After Kristallnacht, the first several hundred Jews were murdered out of the tens of thousands arrested. So during 1939, Jews were facing persecution in Germany and the occasional murder. Yet the chance of the latter was still statistically very low. Kindertransport should be analyzed in this light. It is like Ben Gurion's statement of 1938: "I he would rather save just half of German Jewish children by sending them to British Mandate Palestine than all of them by sending them to the UK" Ben Gurion was talking about saving the Jews from UNPLEASANTARIES. Nobody imagined what would happen a few years later.
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@DMC1982 In 1938, the arabs started to talking about "forcibly removing" the Jews of the Land oif Israel. Hence, as leader of the Yishuv, Ben Gurion began talking about doing the same thing to the arabs.
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@DMC1982 Each is very easy to take one person's sentence and take it out of context of the entire paragraph that was stated.
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@tymanung6382 Conversion INTO Judaism did not occur through much of history. Why would anyone to convert into a dispised, minority outgroup that were blamed for killing God ? Does not make sense. Conversion of Jews into Christianity was very popular but not the other way round.
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@shukeelc5177 Nope it is YERUSHALYIM.
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The Haganah judged the Nazis in the 1930s according what they were doing AT THAT POINT. What the Nazis ended up doing after WW2 broke out, was not imaginable BEFORE it happened. Actually, during the 1930s, Stalin killed much more Jews than Hitler - a part of his "equal opportunities" Great Terror & purges.
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@BwanaFinklestein They were palsy (as you put it) with Hitler because the guy was encouraging Jews to leave Germany. Nobody was being killed in the early days. You are making leaders living in the 1930s "clairvoyant" of what will happen a few years later..
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@rosesprog1722 EVERYONE collaborated with the Nazis - BEFORE THEIR TRUE NATURE WAS KNOWN.
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@andyjota8906 Haavara saved many Jews' lives.
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