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Comments by "upabittoolate" (@upabittoolate) on "Meg Whitman Undocumented Worker Controversy" video.
@truthbtoldUSA And why should there be only 1 language? This is a melting pot. I've no problem with being multi-lingual. That's called LITERACY. You're talking about "solutions". I don't see it as a problem. You're just parroting talking points. Solution? Here goes: Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
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@truthbtoldUSA How legal was it for slave traders to stuff people in the hulls of ships against their will? How legal was it to summarily grant citizenship at Ellis Island by simply altering surnames? How legal was it for poor Protestants to run from oppression in England by encroaching an already inhabited by N. America? How legal was it to kill 70M Native Americans while settling the western United States? Truth is, people come here to outrun poverty. So why be mad at the Brown people?
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@truthbtoldUSA "They embrace our language". Dude, that remark alone tells me that you haven't been around too much. Go to NY or Chicago. There's Italians, Russians & Polish that were actually born here & don't speak English. You have some idealistic outlook on 2nd gen immigrants just because they're White. Then you try to throw Obama in the mix. Is that because his skin is a darker brown than yours? If you're a racist, at least own up to it.
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@truthbtoldUSA That's not my point. My point is that since we're all here illegally, you can't jump on 1 group. And 70M is totally verifiable if you do a li'l research. Disease exposure? Who BROUGHT the disease? The encroachers; that's who. And 2M is correct. If you combine the deaths on the days of the bombings AND the people that died from the cancer afterward, you get 2M. C'mon mate, stop looking at the surface.
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@truthbtoldUSA If that's how you feel stop being racist. Slaves were kidnapped. Natives were mass murdered. The 2nd-genners came to Ellis Island & wrote their names in some book. But all of a sudden, you're worried about the illegality of Mexicans. Show me how you're NOT being racist. Again, everyone comes here to outrun poverty. That's what the American social contract promises. So why are you mad at Mexicans?
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@tmack1337 Yes. I'm absolutely saying that. I've no problem with people milking the same system that overpays elected officials, makes fluff jobs for their relatives & friends then gives money to the banks. If I scapegoat Brown illegals I must scapegpat everyone else. Since I don't do that, I'll just wait 'til this system collapses. On it's ashed & detritus something new will grow.
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@truthbtoldUSA Now that you mention it, I worked last night. What happened on Jersey Shore? Any more fallout from the Snooki/Angelina fight?
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@VicStorm54 $23/hr to be on-call 24/7? I'm not sure if that's as excellent as you may think.
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@tmack1337 I've studied my fair share of history. In the American narrative, people came here to escape poverty. There's no denying that fact. Any "fight" that's been waged was usually ended by bloody gov't quelling or token compromise. That's not fighting to make it "better". That's a 1-2 degree change in daily temperature not actual change of a harsh climate. Study history.
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@truthbtoldUSA If they wanna come here that's fine by me. This is America. We got plenty of room. 70M is absolutely true. You can look at a wiki article & examine the population decline. It's "bogus" because you disagree. Dude, do the research. The data is right there in your own citation.
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@truthbtoldUSA What difference does it make about Hirohito? I'm talking about the unarmed people we killed. We didn't attack soldiers or sailors (like Pearl Harbor). We dropped a bomb on civilians. That's tantamount to dropping a bomb on Omaha. If 1M soldiers died, it would've been a tragedy. BUT, that's war & warriors. We bombed people who weren't in the fight. If you have a quarrel with me, do you get to slap my wife & son? Fuck no.
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@truthbtoldUSA Japan's civilians didn't collectively agree. They aren't a monolith any more than Americans are a monolith. Hell, we're fighting 2 unpopular wars now. And let's take that analogy a step further. Do you hit women? I don't. Do you bully kids? I don't. If a kid has a bomb strapped to his back that's 1 thing. If the woman is armed & aiming that's 1 thing. But those were CIVILIANS. They weren't armed. Please tell me you recognize that obvious nuance.
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@trevorray28 Bad things happened? That's the best response you can give me? Dude, the people, that came here on their own volition, came in an attempt to escape poverty. And the American edict isn't "fix your own country". The American edict is "give me your tired, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free". And you better believe the 1st settlers came here to outrun poverty. Please study history. It's important.
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@truthbtoldUSA Unless you're proposing that we give the land back to the Natives & giving financial reparations, your legality slope is slippery as hell. It's funny, neo-cons always speak of the virtues of individuality & personal liberty but you want to control the language that other people speak. Do you see the irony in that?
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@truthbtoldUSA Dude, add the numbers. It's simple. You're talking about "chances are..." I didn't know you were an actuary racist. You can google pretty well. I'll give you that much.
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@truthbtoldUSA I can tell you haven't seen too much of these beautiful, United States. There are people who were born here that don't speak English. I'm not just talking about Hispanics. Visit Staten Island. You'll see Italians & Poles that don't speak English. Visit the Bridgeport, Ukraine Village & Jefferson Park in Chicago. You'll see Russians that don't speak English. Strange though, I don't hear you whining about them. Racist much?
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@truthbtoldUSA I'm not telling you to wiki. I'm telling you to do arithmetic. As an educated person, it's incumbent on you to look at things & decide for yourself. Wiki? No. But you can look at the footnotes & see if there's anything reputable. Right? Nevertheless, you must take the bitter with the sweet. I love my country. I've taken up arms in service. I don't care for the violence happening in AZ but it's part of the bitter. If it's gonna work it's gotta work for everybody.
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@truthbtoldUSA If you've traveled, you know there's people who don't speak English. Big fucking deal. Hell if you're learned (obviously you are), you know that English is an abstraction; a distillate of German, Latin, Greek & a bunch of other shit. Besides, most Americans speak TERRIBLE English because we don't pay proper attention to our education in this country. We'd rather watch football & MTV. You keep talking about this ethereal "legality". We're ALL her Illegally.
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@truthbtoldUSA Dude, if you think the violence & poverty in Mexico isn't conditional coercion, you'll never understand the psychology that goes into immigration. The notion that we "needed" people to come from Europe & that makes those immigrants therefore more respectable is silly. If you think the White immigrants came to be Americans, I suppose you've never lived in a city with segregated ethnic neighborhoods. C'mon. Is this the best you can render?
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@truthbtoldUSA I'm not pissed at all. I'm saying that if it's good for the European goose, it's good for the Mexican gander. That's the age-old wisdom of reciprocity. You're talking about Natives that were "allowed to stay as default citizens"? That's horseshit. Can you walk into my house, shoot my wife & kids, claim my house as yours then tell me I can stay as long as I dwell in 1 bedroom? Fuck no. So why don't you see the logical error you've made?
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@truthbtoldUSA And this 1 language shit is ridiculous. Unless it's affecting your everyday life, you have no real beef. I speak Spanish, it doesn't bug me at all. In fact, I'm delighted to be able to communicate in another language. That's LITERACY.
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@truthbtoldUSA You keep talking about "legality". Dude, we're HERE illegally. Perhaps my ancestor that was a Natchez Indian gives me some purchase as an aboriginal American. But that's a logistical & philosophical quantum leap. Since you're so in love with the notion of "legality", I'll remind you that we don't do ex post facto prosecution in this country. So you're wrong again. All that said, there's only 1 commonality in your rhetoric. You're targeting Mexicans. Why is that?
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@truthbtoldUSA The American promise IS to solve poverty. "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." What does that say to you?
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