Comments by "upabittoolate" (@upabittoolate) on "George Zimmerman Sues NBC For 'Racist' Tape Edit" video.

  1. And when you shoot me, you're escalating the level of violence from a simple assault to attempted murder (or murder if I die). Spare me all that toughguy shit about "if you derp derp derp". Furthermore, if GZ hadn't followed that boy in the 1st place or stayed his ass in the car until the cops came, there would've been no altercation. So again, GZ is negligible. Thanks for proving my point.
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  2. What you believe isn't consistent with his own story or his own words during the 911 conversation. Hence, what you believe doesn't matter. Only the facts matter. We have quite a few data that tell us what happened that night. You're trying to deny the facts. That's pathetic.
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  3. Following someone IS starting a fight. If I followed your sister or your mother, you'd want to kick my ass. Also, Zimmerman wasn't a sanctioned member of the neighborhood watch. He was following people because he wanted to feel heroic; that's for the kick of it.
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  4. You sound even more stupid there.
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  5. Exactly. You don't need a gun if you have a dependable hand-to-hand game & some wits about you. For that matter, if GZ knew he might get hurt (by ONE teenage boy), he should've sat his ass in the car until the fuzz got there.
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  6. No. The law says you have no duty to retreat & you expected to defend yourself within reason. It doesn't say you can escalate the level of violence to guns. You should actually read the law. And like I said, Trayvon was just under 5'11". I guess that's a sticking point to you but the fact still stands that your "much bigger" postulate holds no water. You're an obvious imbecile. This is like arguing with a republican that hates facts.
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  7. And that's actually what Trayvon did at first. In any case, you're free to flee. But the essence of SYG laws is that you don't have to run. You have a right to make that mu'fucka back up off you. In this case, GZ was the aggressor. He followed a person, on no legal authority, got his ass kicked, panicked & shit that boy.
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  8. Stalking, by FL mandate (I believe it's Sect 748.03. I may have the numbers transposed) is unlawfully following or surveiling a person more than once. I've already researched that law, dumbass. In this case, GZ saw TM, got on his cell, lost his bead on TM then regained his bead when they confronted. As for your mother & sister, you're tryna divert the argument becaue you know I'm correct. You'd consider it a hostile act if I followed 1 of your loved ones. Why impugn the elementary facts?
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  9. Even with hydration, you'd be hard-pressed to claim that Martin was that much bigger. Again, spare me the shit about him playing sports. That only means he played sports. It didn't make him superhuman. It definitely didn't make him so much better a fighther GZ feared death. 5'10 ain't 6', mate. I know you're trying to make him scarier but it's not working. Also, you forgot about that OTHER injury Trayvon sustained. Y'know? The 1 that killed him? *facepalm*
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  10. No. It's escalating the level of violence. Also, Trayvon was NOT "much bigger". He was just under 5'11". He weighed 158lbs at the time of his autopsy. George is just over 5'7" & he walks around at about 180. Fuck your "he was an athlete" remark. And yes, you CAN convict a guy on murder if he creates a situation where someone gets killed. That's precisely what he did. That's something we ALL know beyond reasonable doubt.
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  11. 5'10 ain't 6', mate. 160lbs is a whole sight less than 180lbs. Your premise that Trayvon was "much bigger" fails. Also, him being fitter doesn't mean much. He's still a 17yo boy fighting a 28yo man. Actually, his height is a liability because 1, it gives him a higher center of gravity & it also makes him more easily clocked by a punch. Just because it's legal to possess a firearm doesn't give him license to shoot people; not even in a fistfight.
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  12. So you're telling me about what might after I declared what is & MY premise is flawed? I won't read or address anything you're saying until you show me that you've wrapped your mind around your own idiocy.
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  13. So he didn't say he was following him on the 911 call? The responder didn't say, "we don't need you to do that"? You can edit a tape but you can't put words into a guy's mouth.
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  14. All facts are relevant.
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  15. Because facts matter.
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  16. That's by your depiction. There's no actual evidence that says he was going back to his car & was intercepted. You can go by Zimmernan's story if you choose but it begs the question of which story as he's told a few different ones. Nevertheless, an asswhooping STILL ain't murder. I'll give you a pass on being wrong about the stalking & alleged interception but you still can't explain away the escalation of force.
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  17. Have you any idea how stupid you sound?
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  18. Actually he DID do something illegal by following Trayvon. He's not a policeman. He can't go following people. Also, if I lay my hands on you & oyu use a knife, that's escalating the level of violence. That, too, is illegal. All fights don't end in death. That's why even an aggravated assault doesn't carry the same weight as attempted murder. You sound like a coward.
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  19. For 1, a beatdown ain't a murder. An escalation to deadly force IS murder. The fact is that Zimmerman shouldn't his stupid ass out of the car at all. Also, the only eyewitness accounts, to which we have access, tell us that Trayvon had the advantage in the fight. But again, if George had sat his dumb ass in his car, we wouldn't be talking about it. The truth is that he had a gun & thought he was a policeman. You don't beg for your life in a fistfight. You fight back. Stop smoking that shit.
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  20. It's NOT spin. It's a fact. If I followed you, it'd be received as an act of aggression. And so what if Trayvon DID have faster hands, that doesn't mean he put George in jeopardy of death, It only means he put George in jeopardy of getting his ass whooped. And you may very well tell someone to fuck off for following you. That's more than acceptable. But in the state of Florida, you don't have a duty to retreat. If I stalked you sister or mother, you'd hope she kicked me in the balls. Be honest
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  21. No it doesn't it merely means that's where the fight happened. Also, escalation of force has EVERYTHING to do with what's legal. If I take a swing at you, that doesn't mitigate you shooting me. Yes, there's a reasonable expectation that you defend yourself. The operative word is REASONABLE. Lethal force isn't reasonable.
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  22. 28 is middle-aged? I guess 40 is ancient in your estimation.
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  23. Really? I'm stating facts. You sound stupid.
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  24. 5'10". Deal with it. 160something STILL ain't 180something. 17yrs old ain't 28yrs old. Who's wining in a fight between a 28yo you & a 17yo you? Okay then. You already know the answer to that. And you're talking about the UFC where they do more than punch. Fail on your part. And no, the law says there's no duty to retreat. It doesn't say it's okay to escalate the level of violence. A gunshot is not reasonable force in a fistfight.
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  25. I've said that several times. And even if it may have been a misunderstanding, George was the negligent party as he's the adult carrying a weapon hence he had even more responsibility to maintain common safety.
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  26. He ain't gettin' off.
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  27. In the car then on foot. That's twice.
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  28. He followed him in his car then on foot. He was operating on no legal sanction or legal authority. Even if he was a member of the neighborhood watch (I honestly don't know where that issue stands), it's "neighborhood WATCH" not "neighborhood stalk people you think are suspicious in your car then on foot then confront them while you're armed".
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