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Comments by "upabittoolate" (@upabittoolate) on "Drunk Drivers Can Sue Bartenders?" video.
@arthereld It looks like you're trying to purposely not look at another viewpoint. That's why I presented the analogies. Oh well. So we'll go back to the basics. The bartender is serving a controlled substance. He bartender is operating under certain license. To say that the impaired patron is on the same level of accountability is wrong.
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It goes both ways. First off, it's not like every jury on every case is gonna side with every drunk driver. Conversely, bartenders (I'm 1) actually do have a reasonable responsibility to cut patrons off when we think they've had enough. If doctors & pharmacists have a legal responsiblity to their patients & to the overall public with regards to dispensing potentially dangerous medicine, it follows that similar accountability is associated to serving alcohol.
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@arthereld Lemme use another analogy. Driver A hit a kid on a bike then tries to drive off. In scenario 1, the Driver A is impeded by Driver B who stops his car so not to let Driver A leave the scene. In scenario 2, Driver B moves veers so Driver A has safe escape from the accident scene. In the 2nd scenario, Driver B bears some onus because he allowed Driver A to leave the scene. We could run down millions of anecdotes & scenarios. But ultimately, bar staff have a responsibility.
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@arthereld You're forgetting the other part of the recent trend: I did something wrong & I was enabled. The other guy helped me do it. That's tantamount to being a passive accomplice. Is the stickup kid guilty for mugging someone? Of curse. Is the honest gun shop owner that sold him the pistol without doing a background check? You better believe it. Yes, the bartender has some (not all) responsibility.
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@arthereld I didn't say anything about the drivers suing each other. Stop misinterpreting my analogy for your own purposes. I'm talking about accountability. In that anecdote, Driver B is responsible. If a druggist over-dispenses meds & those meds get abused, the druggist bears onus. Also, you can't assume that the druggist, who IS the enabler in this instance, is on the same level as the addict. I'm not saying the addict is in the right. I'm saying that having license means more responsibility.
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@arthereld You didn't understand the part between the 1st letter of the 1st sentence & the period of the last sentence.
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@arthereld You must consider the fact that bartenders are sober (or at least more sober than their customers). That means they're operating at a different level of judgement. A drunk is impaired. Does that mean it's totally one-sided? Not exactly. But taverns actually do have a responsibility. If a person gets drunk, gets into a fight at a bar (or gets flatout accosted) the bar has a reasonable level of responsibility because part of the job is keeping the customers safe.
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@arthereld It's not for lack of understanding. It's for your rhetoric. I used analogies to relay an idea... that you refuse to grasp. Oh well. Peace.
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