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Comments by "upabittoolate" (@upabittoolate) on "Jesus Painting Fail (Update)" video.
Oh, and 1 more thing, nobody in his right mind is tryna send an 80yo woman to jail for a non-violent crime. Furthermore, considering the fact that the "vandalism" made money for the church & after all, the church needs money to good God's good work (according to their own ethic). You're dead wrong.
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What you're saying is that people need to jingoistically follow shit like "legacy". As for sympathy, she's EIGHTY YEARS OLD! Throw her a few dollars. She can't work a full-time job. They're getting paid off what she did. For whatever her motives are & for whatever the results were, that church is getting money off what she did. As for Joshua looking like the person in that picture there is no debate. There's no "great debate". There are the words as they're writen & there are racist deniers.
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No. The tax-exempt church is making money off her work. She needs to be paid. If it were a legal issue, they'd've gone after HER 1st. Aside from taht, I never said a church was public property. I said it was community property. Therefore your premise doesn't work. Her action, irrespective of of hilariously whack it was, is generating money for the church. O don't see how you're missing that nuance.
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The moron is posting your comments. We could trace the biblical genealogy too if you like. Jesus looked like me; not you. I know that rattles your racist fundament but these are the facts. You ARE a racist. You ARE SUB-human. That's not hypocrisy. That's observation. As for apostles going to Rome, that's fine. What makes you assume they weren't Black? Wait. I'll answer that: your racism. And yes, Rome had quite a few Black people. Italians are about as close to Black as Spaniards are. You lose
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Through your published comments, you've already done a pretty good job of letting the entire world know what you are. A man protects people who are more vulnerable. With that philosophy, there's no argument against giving that old lady some of the money. Furthermore, it is LITERALLY the "Christian thing to do". Aside from that, the painting, itself, has nothing to do with Joshua. Anything else you're saying is stupidity. Peace.
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Rome is a city now, idiot. Back in those days it was an empire & even the central area was a state. You really haven't studied any history. Have you?
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Only is the owner's of the pool are making money off the pool. If you're gonna use logic, mine or yours, you have to follow it all the way. I like your omission though. It tells me you can't argue your own point.
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"You are wrong to degrade history"? Dude, that picture isn't history. It's an artist's idea of how a person looked. That's a well-drawn, Hanna-Barbera cartoon. What it's not is history. At the very best, the biblical depiction is a story about a set of stories told by people who never even met Joshua. Have you any idea how dumb you look right now?
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And no, he's not correct. You don't imprison someone for a legal infraction that normally incurs a fine. I don't care if it's Michelangelo + Da Vinci * Money, it's still a bolt of fabric with paint on it; nothing more. You're making a fool of yourself. I guess I'm just as bad for engaging your stupid ass.
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In your mind, cold-blooded murder is equivalent to painting? Are you high?
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There's nothing historical about the painting. Also, if people are making money off some work she did, she's entitled to some of it. Ultimately though, why are you tryna sue an 80yo woman? odds on, she's on a fixed income. Are you insane?
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No. The weak comeback was made by you when you started talking the playground shit. That was after you tried to say something about America. That was after you were defeated on the content of the argument. "drowning in sorrow with no healthcare..." That has nothing to do with art or our humane duty to protect 80yo women. You failed.
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If I paint graffiti & people pay to see it, I'm entitled to some money. A "professional artist" isn't withstanding here. That's elementary.
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There IS NO god.
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They let her do it. Who cares? Furthermore, why on earth are you calling for an 80yo woman to be put in jail? Are you nuts?
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Yeshua bin Yusef WAS Black. There's not much argument about that. Whether he was the result of immaculate conception, walked on water, healed lepers with a touch, etc., are what's questionable.
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FUCK "legacy"! That word is meaningless here. For 1, Joshua, if he existed in any capacity that approaches the biblical depiction, did NOT LOOK LIKE THAT! 2ndly, you're not celebrating your love of Son of Man by flipping out about a fucking painting. It's being old doesn't make it any better or worse. 3rdly, if Joshua did exist & he came back today, he'd be disgusted by someone screwing an old lady out of a few dollars that she probably needs to survuve because people like believe in "legacy".
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At the very best, he was a blend. As I told the other person, if he existed in any capacity that was close to how he's depicted in the bible, he looked more like me (except for my height; I'm a tall man), a Black man with some traces of Native America & NW European, than like the artwork in question here. My hair isn't quite like sheep's wool but it's far from being straight. My voice carries like a trumpet. Plus, if you follow the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus descended from Abraham, who was Black.
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Dude, the ignorance is being generated by the person behind your keyboard. This woman is old & probably on a limited income. The church is making money off what she did. Joshua didn't even look like that. At best, you're placing value on antiquity in the same way that Southern American Whites romanticize about Dixie. That's idiotic. That woman deserves a few dollars. You see, full grown men protect the people who are vulnerable. This woman is vulnerable. You can't intelligently argue otherwise.
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You're quite right. Abe ARRIVED in Ur after the famine in Canaan, where he was from. In that time, Black Egyptians often moved north to escape the heat. Also, the notion of "semitic" would describe quite a few people. A big nose, juicy lips, copper skin & curly hair could just as easily describe me (except for my smallish nose & narrow mouth) OR Abraham... or Joshua. For that matter, "shemite" is just as easily called "hammite" in old Hebrew. Finally, Babylonians were from the SOUTH. Nuff sed.
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No. An empire extends beyond the confines of a city. America is a republic. The UK is an empire that has had holding in India & China (in my own lifetime) as well as in Oceania & Africa. I know you're trying to focus on this 1 part because you think it gives you traction in the greater argument but it's a fail like your other, racist pablum. You've lost this 1. Move on.
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No. He was from Canaan & MOVED to Ur. Read up. Also, Semitic isn't based expressly on spoken language. And youre also correct that Hebrews fall in to a somewhat ambiguous category. As for escaping the heat, I'm talking about the heat that led to drought in Canaan, moron. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp? Furthermore, I said nothing about Dogon. Nice strawman. Fail. But nice strawman.
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Nonsense. What's culturally or historically significant about the painting? It's old? IT's a hackneyed visage of Chirst? So fucking what if it's old. Antiquity & quality are NOT equivalent. Furthermore, equating paint to ending a life is patently stupid. There's no argumebnt you can make that would validate such an inane comparison. Stop smoking crack.
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Nice troll.
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So instead of facts, you'll impugn? That's pathetic.
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YES. FUCK THE MONA LISA. The only thing special about it is that it's old. Spare me the shit about "great minds in history". That doesn't mean his painting has any more or less value. If I want a painting, I'll go to a gallery & tout the work of someone who's alive & needs the money for his work. Fuck Da Vinci.
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You lost this 1. Move on.
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Imbecile. You compared paint to murder. We're talking about a 80yr old women that harmed absolutely no 1. She didn't even swat a mosquito. The buck stops when you do that. You're complaining about a lack of civility after you tried to compare painting to MURDER. You're not allowed to talk anymore.
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Now I KNOW you're lying. Any time you have a volunteer situation when you're engagement is longer than a few hours or it's more than once, you sign something. It's a means of indemnity protection. In this instance, she has a litigateable case. Moreover, she's an old woman. She can't work. She deserves some of that loot. But I guess you're on the side of big business. Sad.
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The church is gonna sue an 80yr old woman who's probably on a fixed income? Church's are supposed to be about GIVING. Aren't they? As for someone tagging my house, it's my personal property. The church is community property. You're not very good at debate. Are you?
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Of course you wouldn't but this is 2012 yrs ago, idiot. Lookit, I know the facts don't support your racism & all but the truth is that Joshua was Black. If you believe how he was depicted, you conclude that he was Black. At the very best, he looked more like me than like your Austrian ass or like the person in the painting prior to the bad restoration job. I'm not ashamed of any of my heritage because it's incidental. I am, however, ashamed to call YOU a fellow human being. You're SUBhuman.
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You can't stand it. Can you? A Blackman that's smarter than you. So to satisfy your inferiority issues, you troll. That's pathetic.
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I'm quite a few things but "fake" doesn't make the short list. What's pathetic is that you could've used your mouse to see "what " I am. You're a failure.
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FUCK the Mona Lisa. You're holding it in some regard for no other reason than the fact that it's old. Have you any real argument? Also, THIS painting is not a piee of anthropological history. It's tantamount to an old comic book. I could see if you're talking about an original bamboo slat from Art of War. I could see it was the original Constitution. But this is just some shite painting that nobody but the old lady cared about. You're playing yourself.
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No. Protect her from the forces of the world that would harm her. Give her a few dollars. They made them off her work. You're so lost in your own stupidity that your eyes came off the ball. You're a failure.
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Double standard? How 'bout considering the fact that her crime (if we can call it that) is victimless? How 'bout considering the fact, actuarily speaking, she isn't going to live much longer? How 'bout not equating marring a painting to MUDER? You're an imbecile.
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You already failed. Run along now, little 1.
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You can have something against Black people if you like. You an't change the history or the existing genetic evidence. Take it how you want it.
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Spaniards have been found to have the haplogroupipng of Berbers & sub-Saharan Africans. I don't need to tell you about the intermingling that's gone on with Africans & Italians. Furthermore, your supposition about "Rome" sounds like you're assuming it was limited to the Vatican. Rome, at its height, reached as far east as Turkey & as far north as England and yes, as far south as what is now Ethiopia/Eritrea. You're a fucking idiot who knows no anthropology OR human history.
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If he came descended from Abraham, he was Black.
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"... dude, youR dumb..." You're not allowed to talk anymore.
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Volunteer or not, they're turning a profit off her work. There was no contract, written, oral or implied, that says she cant' be paid. So your premise about volunteering is a fail. If you volunteered someplace, you probably signed something. Don't lie & say you didn't. She's entitled to some of those proceeds. There's no arguing otherwise.
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No. YOU are an idiot to think that a man born in Palestine was White considering the fact that it was heavily populated with people whom you'd consider Black. He's described as a Black man too. But I guess it doesn't fit your desire for him to be something he isn't. The dumbasses are the people who depict him as Cesare de Borgia then give him a Greek name (Jesus) instead using elementary logic.
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