Comments by "upabittoolate" (@upabittoolate) on "Right Wing Christians Praying That People Die" video.

I want a show of hands. Who was actually surprised by this?
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@Phoboskomboa I dunno. Religious nuts aren't dangerous to me because I'm pretty strong. They won't ever engage me because they intuitively know they're overmatched. Call it cocky but I think those lunatics are pretty harmless. But never did I say "be silent". In fact, it was me that said make room for them... but I also said point & laugh.
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@treez78 Austrian, Danish. tomAto, tomato. It's all the same thing. You're an idiot who thinks that medicare & medicaid are designed to make $. It's not. You're fundamentally incorrect because your premise is false. Do some research. Read the missions of medicare & medicaid. Since the goal isn't making money, there's no bankruptcy. Besides I ain't heard about no chapter filings. As it happens, medicare & medicaid have larger drug formularies than the 3 major carriers in the country.
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@Phoboskomboa It's a shame. But that's the world we live in. That's why a few ounces of tolerance are necessary. Otherwise you'll go nuts. It's easier to tolerate people than try to engage their stupidity. It's more fun discovering cool shit to agree about. Like women, music, greasy food & fast cars.
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@Phoboskomboa I can't disagree with you on any of that. But in fairness, we, humans, have living bacteria that's potentially septic. WE'RE are intrinsically sick in our cores. Perhaps religion is merely a reflection.
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No, you made a fallacy alright. It was a normal 1. It's a fairly easy mistake. You staked a claim that my remarks about all conclusive practice & philosophy we're somehow "self serving". In addition, you made the claim that all religions are problematic because of a few nuts within given sects. In addition, you've waffled. On the 1 hand, people are gonna use "common sense", Which, by your claim, should be intrinsic & ingrained not relative or taught. (cont)
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The notion of common sense is that it's common. Just like our need for oxygen, we all share it. Right? That may be a bit of a false equivalency. What I'm saying is that things like math are "common" between you & me but there's a whole sect of people that aren't literate. And yes, they subscribe to primitive morality offered by religion. But it's still morality. I don't mind someone not committing murder because some magic wizard said so. I mind someone committing murder. Don't you?
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You ate people? That's gross. Also, don't assume that because you were in the military, you're the only 1's keeping America safe. I'm a leftist & I spent 5yrs in the USAF. Speaking German? That sounds fine as a narrative but then you have to look at who was in the Oval Office when we fought "ze Germans". Wilson & Roosevelt were both DEMOCRATIC presidents you putz. If that guy wants to smoke pot & not work, it's his choice & his consequence. Don't tread on his right to be a derelict.
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@treez78 Lookit, I know that you're not smart enough to understand this but I didn't call YOU a buffoon. I called your RHETORIC stupid. In addition, the word is O-bnoxious. If it's these "names" are bugging you so much, stop proving me right. Stop proving me right by trying to sound official with this bullshit about "1/6th of the economy" being taken over. You pulled that number out of your ass. Moreover, you haven't presented anything substantive outside of aping Ron Paul's agenda.
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@treez78 You sound like a buffoon. That's not what Phobo is saying. Nor are socialists preventing people from providing for their families. And Phobo never claimed that Jesus "said stupid things". Phobo is saying that Jesus, the way he's depicted in the KJV, was closer to progressive/collective ethics than he ever was to conservative/proprietary ethics. And being stupid or smart has nothing to do with why Jesus is worshipped. The reason is holopantheism with Jesus being the point man.
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@Phoboskomboa With that last comment about Jesus, etc., you're spot on. Jesus wouldn't dig the way fundamentalists have behaved. Poor, young carpenter that he was, he probably wouldn't have aligned himself with the neo-con agenda either. But don't forget that history (if we can call it history simply in terms of it being a narrative in this case) is told by the people who martyrize not the actual martyrs.
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@Phoboskomboa Bear in mind that "common' isn't the same thing to you as it is to most people. Nuance my friend. Nuance. I know that Orthodox Christians don't follow the KJV nonsense. Again, it's not all the same. Beware those kinds of generalizations. It's that kinda mental lapse that caused most the problems. You're a thinker. I expect more from you.
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@Phoboskomboa Ideas propagating? You'r assuming that religion (belief) has ideas (actual reasoning in its basis). Religion isn't about thinking. It's about doing because someone said that someone said that someone said that someone ELSE said that "God" said so. Parasitic indeed.
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(cont) On the other hand, you claim that people will use archaic methods of interpretation. So which 1 is it? Are we all naturally moral & sophisticated or are there nuances that need to be taught. As a professional teacher, I'd lean toward the latter. As far as "straw man" arguments go, I think you should blow the dust off that old critical thinking book. "Religion is sick to the core & needs to die." Those are YOUR words from 1hr ago. You never said "fundamentalism is the problem".
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@Phoboskomboa In any case, let's both point at tehant1liberal & treez78 and laugh at them. They're buffoons. Sure it's kinda cruel. But I'm not above cruelty toward abject stupidity. C'mon, the moron (the anti-liberal) can't even spell the word "the". treez78 can't even process a compound sentence. But those guys don't represent all religious folk. Some are quite brilliant. You gotta trust me on that.
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@Phoboskomboa I'm radical about a great many things so I think we all have to make room for each other. The atheist has to move over for the agnostic as much as the Christian is obligated to save a seat for the Muslim. The Hindu's gotta scoot over for the Taoist. I'm not saying we must agree or agree to disagree. But it's intuitive to develop a reasonable understanding. AND, we ALL gotta compromise with our neighbors sometimes. Ultimately, no 1 has the right to be the thought police.
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@Mrmidtown1 Bullseye.
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It's far from pc or touchy-feely. Call it "self" indulgent but my premise concerned ALL people's need to tolerate of ALL other people. It's your barbs that have little value. At their cores, religions say "be a good person". That's an educated conclusion from a philosophy major. I don't know your background but feel free to share... if the idea of sharing ain't too pc for your delicate sensibilities. Problematic fundamentalists don't represent the whole spectrum. Hence you made fallacies.
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@treez78 I didn't name call. I commenting on how you sound. Yeah, it's a sneaky rhetorical trick but you fell for it. The fact that you published your comment means that I've a right to respond to it. Otherwise take it private. I don't care if you want an opinion or not. I'm sharing the FACTS with you.
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@treez78 By the way, the last batch of neo-cons in the executive & legislative branches did a bang up job of bankrupting the country. It was the judicial branch that facilitated it. Read some history my friend. Also, if gov't health care was so inefficient, why are the mortality rates at county, state & university hospitals always so much lower than that of private, limited access & concierge settings? I worked in health care for 13yrs before I got back into teaching. That's the reality.
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Bankrupt? That's impossible because health care isn't for capital gain. Are you really this obtuse? The best doctor ain't the richest 1. The best doctor is the 1 who provides the best care & keeps the most people alive with a good quality of life. "Free market" sounds all epic & shit, but you're coming off like buffoon once again. There's a SPECIFIC reason that freeways are regulated. There's a specific reason that commerce & human service is regulated too. Danish economics aren't a cure-all.
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@Phoboskomboa While I disagree with almost all peripheral ethics & primitive moral ideas in Christianity, I agree with it's principle themes of being a decent human being & respecting something in the ether, astral or temporal, that's stronger than the "self". For lack of a better term, I'd call those principles the true fundament. To me, fundamentalists are more accurately called semanticalists whereby the believer is bigger than the belief. Religion isn't the problem, it's mindless jingoism.
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Since we're all different, in ways ranging from subtle to structural, you can't talk about "common sense". I don't disagree that religious morality is primitive. But I can't go along with "common sense" being the answer. Yes, adaptive behavior must be taught. Don't believe me? Volunteer at a daycare, community center or school. Look at how much teaching & direction that young kids lack. I teach for a living. Ain't nothing "ingrained".
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