Comments by "upabittoolate" (@upabittoolate) on "Racist Chase Employee Has Man Arrested?" video.

  1. He's not saying anything about segregation. He's saying that it's in a Black person's best interests to augment Black businesses. There's nothing wrong with that at all. Every other group does that. So why is it that when a Black man suggests the same practice, it's "segregation"? Don't Mormons vote as a block? Don't Italian Americans shop Italian? Aren't all the Chinatowns in every major city homogenous? You say incompetence caused the arrest. But you still haven't explained motive.
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  2. You make a fair point but I think you're missing an important premise. A doctor or lawyer or investment banker cashing a large check is a cause for taking reasonable precautions. But the bank officer didn't do that. She acted on her suspicion instead of following through with her own job's protocol. I've never worked at a bank but I do know that banking information is in a database. The fact that she went for the cop option instead of anything else sounds very racist given American history.
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  3. Ultimately, ask yourself why didn't the bank officer do all her fact-checking BEFORE she called the fuzz. Was it a time issue? Perhaps. But she sure had time to call the police. Didn't she? I don't know what color you are. I don't know your life experience. But in my life, people cross the street when I'm coming from the opposite direction. Women grab their purses on airplanes & elevators. White men ask why I'm not playing basketball instead of helping patients at a clinic.
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  4. @Bellita1 No. Investigation means researching the nature of a crime. Proofing means checking accounts for balances, payees, payers & proper dates. Idiot. If the officer had done her job, we wouldn't be talking. But here we are. We're asking ourselves, "why didn't the bank officer do her job? Why did she try to question the man? Why'd she call the cops instead of calling the bank department?" Why? Because she thought the Black man was a crook instead of a customer.
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  5. @DirtyMoney410 Well put.
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  6. The ignorant 1 is behind your keyboard. But save the namecalling & prove me wrong. As far as TYT being liberal, they make no bones about it. The thing is, they aren't ones who gave the report. They're just commenting on it. Too bad you're too dull to consider that glaring fact. Like I said, if stupid wear arrestable, you'd spend much of your life in cuffs. Yes, millions of Americans are mistreated. But we're not talking about them. We're talking about the bank officer's motive in THIS instance.
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  7. @stetsonwalker You're going to split hairs about an address? lol. I'll excuse that. The computer has his driver's license ID number if you wanna mince about that. He hard a credit card with his name on it too. Aside from that, it's not like too many people in Washington have the name "Akela Njoku". Again, how he makes his money isn't of consequence. What IS of consequence is that CHASE'S payout account was in order (cont'd)
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  8. Growing up, we're told that if we work hard & do the right thing, there will be no ceilings on our possibilities. All this young man wanted was to carve out a piece of the American promise. He bounced some checks. So fucking what? He was coming back to cash a that was sent from the bank that wrote the check. Instead of doing what she was supposed to do on her end, she made an immediate assumption about him. He's young, he's black he MUST be trying to bounce a phony check. Right?
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  9. It's so easy to say he's written bad checks & let that be an excuse. But like an idiot, you stayed on that point. Forget the fact that paychecks bounce sometimes. Forget the difference between poorly keeping books & being a criminal that commits fraud. Forget all that. Just focus on his rubber checks. But In your tunnel-vision, you missed the most important part of the premise: THIS check WAS NOT FROM HIS ACCOUNT. THIS check was from a Chase account. She DIDN'T CHECK THE CHASE ACCOUNT. Moron.
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  10. @stetson And yes, you're splitting hairs when you make a supposition about an address. Even if the address WAS fuckery, they enter your driver's license number into the file when they open your account. Furthermore, his name ain't John Smith. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that he's the only fellow with that name for 300mi in any direction. Also, you're splitting hairs about the info not being conspicuous on the check. It's FROM CHASE for Pete's sake. She saw Black & saw a crook. That's foul.
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  11. @Bellita1 So what if I DO hate the police? That doesn't mean I identify with criminals. A fool argues a false equivalency like that. Also, the bank officer's motivation was racist. If not, show me how it wasn't. You can tell me to fuck off all you like but what you can't do is argue a point. Pathetic.
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  12. I feel you. But I'm trying to appeal to their sense of logic & equity. I guess it doesn't work. But you gotta admit, I did frame a reasonable argument.
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  13. @shadowedge69 I understand a great many things my friend. I know that it's wrong to exclude. But I'm not talking about excluding. I'm talking about building an economic base so that we're dealing with others as peers. Yes, it's intuitive to shop Black if you're Black. It means the vendors, bankers, shopkeepers & professionals understand something not only about my sensibilities but also about my goals & values. No, it's not retarded to do trade at a Black bank.
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  14. @Jpkrao It was actually in Washington state. But racism exists there too. Don't forget the 1st Tea PArty protest was in Seattle.
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  15. Who needs to read minds when behavior is self-explanatory? I've yet to hear you render any other rational explanation. She's an officer of the bank from which the check was written. She had all the necessary access to the pertinent data. Instead of doing what she was paid to do, she decided to be a hero. When she realized her error, all that heroism disintegrated. Her crusade on behalf of her job didn't translate to a basic acknowledgement of the brother's basic humanity. She left him in jail.
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  16. @nandansho I agree with you about the origin of "race card". And yes, racists try to jiu jistsu any attempt to battle racism. It's as if they think we're supposed to just accept the bullshit. But I also know that all too often, Tameka & Jamal tend to scapegoat racism instead of TCB'ing. All that said, the bank officer's use of caution isn't what bugs me. What I'm bugged by is her letting her racism guide her choice instead of her professional duty. She wanted to feel like a fucking hero.
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  17. (cont'd III) Her excuse was that it looked suspect. I stormed out & went to school. I returned the following day to complain to the manager. He told ME that I scared HER. I'm 6'5 1/2", 230lbs, all kinds of vicious if you're an enemy. But right then I was just a man tryna buy a textbook. He gave me the "You're big. And there's an 'element' in this neighborhood" routine. The neighborhood was West Town, an Eastern European-settled neighborhood come hipster/yuppie-ville. THAT wasn't racism?
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  18. Yup. I often tell the story of when I was working for Denver Health in the pharmacy at a neighborhood clinic. I had a guy, a Medicaid patient, tell me that I should be playing ball instead of helping patients. I just looked at him, shook my head & called the next person. He got all shitty & complained to the patient representative. The patient rep called the pharmacy director. The pharmacy director pulled me into the office. I had to explain why I "scared" the guy. (cont'd)
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  19. @Lukege15 It's easy to say she has a chip. It takes real gumption & moxie to try to understand where she's coming from. You think people DON'T look at young Black men & make assumptions? I was a pharmacy tech at Denver Health & I had a patient tell me I was better off playing basketball. Can it get any clearer?
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  20. @stetsonwalker Accounts get closed all the time. That's not uncommon. People get anxious all the time. This world is stressful & people are under the gun when it comes to time; such is life. What matters here is if the account had the funds & if the guy is the payee of said check. A simple phonecall to the remittance department would've cleared up any suspicion. It wasn't her place to call the police. It was her job to see if the check was on the up & up.
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  21. @Byakuyasamamark205 Epic fail.
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  22. @Bellita1 You exposed yourself with all that "dis" & "dat" talk. You exposed your uunderlying fear of being raped by a Blackman. You exposed yourself when you implied that I'm a criminal simply because I think police are pigs. You exposed your own racism. Nicely done.
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  23. Hmm... The old "you started it" argument instead of answering the challenge put before you. I don't have to "prove" anything. I have to defend my argument. Again, what's your explanation for the banker not doing her job? What did his medium of exchange or his place of residence have to do with the BANKER doing HER job? But most of all, can you show me an instance when this happened to a White man? Your opinion IS flawed if you don't understand how structural racism mis-educates people
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  24. @kaianttila73i Agreed. But the best chance you'll get of finding "pure" is within a region that has a more homogenous population than say, Chicago's Hyde Park community. Feel me?
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  25. The fact that she had access to the proper account information is the most important part of the premise. Had she done her job in the 1st place, there would be no need to give him the 3rd degree nor would the young man have been arrested, lost his job or his car. I NEVER said the bank should just cash the check. I SAID she only needed to do HER job; not be some kinda white collar vigilante. Why do we mention race? Suspicion & 'cause we know what happens when you call the pigs on a brother.
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  26. @Bellita1 You're a racist. What's my basis? Read your comments. The biggest pieces on Earth are racists. You're an embarrassment to mankind.
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  27. @stetsonwalker I think it's racist because she decided to ask him what he did for a living & where he lived. You see, racism isn't limited to internet trolling or junk science about the bell-curve. Racism is structural. Her perception of him was racist. She saw bounced checks, that he paid off, as proof of him being a crook. She never considered that he may just be a lousy bookkeeper. At no point did she follow through with what SHE was supposed to do. She just wanted to be a hero.
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  28. Also, she had no business asking about his job or where he lived. All that info checks out in the proofing stage of the check. I understand the bank officer's ned to do her job. But she had no business being a "crusader". Irrespective, there is a degree of racism here. It's easy to say he's just being paranoid. But what'd be hard for you to do is find a situation when this happened to a White customer. I know you're gonna scream "false dichotomy!" but I challenge you to show me an example.
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  29. @Silveracity No. It looks like I had to run an errand because I have a life too. If it looks like anything, it looks like the bank employees are being inefficient & unprofessional. Given the fact that all the necessary info is in a database that the bank office could've easily accessed, there's really no excuse for it take so long. Instead of giving the guy a 3rd degree, she should've been using that time to solve her reasonable suspicions. But she didn't.
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  30. @JimboVids Shut up.
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  31. @stetsonwalker OF course they're supposed to use caution. I'm not talking about that. What I'm saying is that if the officer had the wherewithal to see why his account was closed, she had the wherewithal to see that the check, which came FROM Chase, was good. And no, she had no right to ask her where he lived or how he made his money because it was immaterial to the business he was conducting on THAT day. And you're telling me about where the check came from. Right? How 'bout she read the check.
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  32. Having an account that was forced closed is indeed a red flag. But if the bank officer had done her job, it'd be no issue. "Glitches", you say? I'll accept that excuse for a day. But the next morning, she made no attempt to proof the check. She was already ginned up to send the guy off to jail. Was racism her motive? That's the $64K. I don't read minds. But I do know how I'm perceived as a Blackman. I do know that racism is structural. I do know that the banker was professionally derelict.
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  33. @RancidStyle It's not a clear case of racism? Okay. Show me where they did this to a White man. You'd deny a century's-worth of bad history between law enforcement officials & Blackmen? You'd deny that the banker's quizzical look isn't saying, "why are YOU living there?" Better yet, she needed to know the guy's life story instead finding out if the check was kosher? I definitely won't assume you're Black.
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  34. @RancidStyle But the structural racism is rather simple here. She saw a young, Black man & thought "crook". I don't read minds but her own actions qualify my premise. What she didn't do was her own job. Why? Because she was too busy trying to "take out the trash".
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  35. @Bellita1 The cops ARE pigs. Irrespective of that though, the bank officer decided she couldn't do her own job. Rather, she decided to "handle" a Blackman by calling the man. Spare me the nonsense about my love for a criminal element. If I DID love the criminal element, I would be singing the bank officer's praise. But I'm not. MY complaint is that the bank officer was not only derelict in her duty, she was racist in her behavior. As for catching colds, I wouldn't know; I don't catch colds.
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  36. I listened, that's how I know he came back the next day. That fact actually makes the behavior of the bank officer more deplorable. She had time to proof the check in the bank's own database. But instead, she called cops. She didn't even have the common courtesy to make sure the wrongly accused man got out of jail. We know who had him arrested. It was the bank officer. And yes she knew his race. The bank has a camera. His name definitely ain't John Smith. And she had access to his ID.
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  37. @stetsonwalker Here's the other problem I have with your reasoning. You accused YT of omitting significant info. That's incorrect because this derives from a local news story. If you got beef, take it up with the local news reporting in Washington state.
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  38. @philip1967ful Um,,,, No. That wasn't the reason because you better believe they sent an explanation of that check's balance & an explanation of why his account was closed along with the check. He wasn't trying to deposit anything he was trying to cash the check so he could go pay off his car. Pay attention to the video.
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  39. @RancidStyle What makes the red flag argument a weak 1 is a very basic, very obvious premise: the check was written from Chase, the young man had identification, she had access to the necessary data that's need in order to prove the check. The other problem with that argument is that she made a leap in logic by assuming he was committing a crime & calling the police. But most of all, she had all the time in the world to find out, beyond any uncertainty, if it was on the up & up. She didn't.
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  40. @nandansho Yep. And I don't even hate Li'l Weezy. I know he's a product & a function of what he's been fed. I can't watch BET as it is. Back in the day, I couldn't stand Teen Summit because I thought it was trite. But nowadays, BET magnifies the basest part of Black existence. I wish people would stop watching it altogether. But our people keep treating it like it has worth. To be honest, I ain't even mad at the Jewish guy either. He's making a buck. But WE should see through that shit.
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  41. For 1, it's "you're" not "your". There's a difference between possessive pronouns & contractions. And yes, my argument is that she's racist. I've presented my evidence. I've challenged you to deal with said evidence. That's not condescension, that's a challenge. Perhaps you aren't up to it. There's a difference between talking about cosmic events & talking the events in THIS case. I haven't asked about anything BUT the events of THIS case. Structural racism has an effect on EVERYTHING.
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  42. I don't keep coming back to the original teller. My remarks were about the BANK OFFICER. I gotta admit, that was a nice try at a strawman. It failed though. Again, the BANK OFFICER had access to the proper information that could've cleared any murkiness. He was an account holder for 1. 2ndly, the check was issued BY CHASE. If it was questionable, she needed to go up the chain of command. But nobody told Ikena what was happening. They just treated him like a crook instead of a customer.
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  43. @TheJazzydrummer EXACTLY! ALL she had to do was the job she's paid to do. The job that the young man, who up to the point his account was forced closed, paid her to do. How he makes his money was of no consequence. What counts is if that check was on the up & up. She blew it. Somebody's gotta pay that young man for his car. Fuck the Blue Book value. Fuck the auction price. Somebody's gotta buy him a car. Somebody also owes him back pay. I hope the bank pays punitive damages too.
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  44. @stetsonwalker If the account was closed for rubber checks that's understandable. But here's the biggest problem with your logic: the check in question was written FROM Chase. If it was a bogus account, that would be easily detectable. If it were such a big deal, she needed to go to her direct superior 1st. Furthermore, the time it took for her to call the police & file a report was time she could've used getting to the bottom of it. Instead, she treated the young man like a criminal.
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  45. @Silveracity Wanna hear a story? I had a similar situation once. Back in Chicago, I used to use a check cashing place near my apartment. At the time, I was working for a few different staffing agencies. I was a pharmacy technician. I had to cash a check early in the morning because I needed to buy a textbook for my calculus class that was starting on the same morning. Sounds simple. Right? Nope. I brought in a $1500 check & the cashier got all nervous. (cont'd)
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  46. Of course you don't care where the account is. That's because you're racist. You get tired of hearing about racism because you don't want to reflect on the advantages given to you by systemic racism. In fact, you'd like to think everything you have is by your own merit. You don't want everyone to have the same opportunities. You don't want to consider the fact that other people are due a fair shake. Nope. You saw a Blackman & thought "criminal". You didn't really care what the TRUTH is.
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  47. @Byakuyasamamark205 Unless you're from Scandanavia, you're mixed. Get over it.
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  48. (cont'd II) I had to tell my pharmacy director that I was insulted not only as an 11yr veteran of the profession but as a Black man. He says something stupid to me then tries to get me in trouble at work when I called him on his bullshit. Systemic education & its intrinsic racism programs people. He couldn't look at me & see a smart, bilingual, professional. All he can see is young, tall, Black. His math was Black kid = basketball player. He was offended that I didn't accept his "compliment".
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  49. @dcrasta Indeed.
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  50. Telling you that you should be drinking that is a bullshit stereotype as well. It's a far cry from a White man telling me that I should be a jester with a ball instead of a healer whose improving life. But that's not my point. Stereotypes exist & some are more pervasive. Such is the case here. The bank officer looked at him & thought "criminal" when she should have looked at the fucking check & did her job. You want simple? Okay. It's simple, when a bank employee follows her protocol.
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  51. Maybe I understand "merit". Maybe I've followed protocol at my jobs. Maybe, just maybe, I take for granted that the bank officer earned her position. She's guarding the henhouse at a branch of this nation's 2nd largest branch. Does that make it possible for her to "fall through the cracks"? Sure. But I think she got to where she got by doing her job properly while promoting the Chase brand. I willingly admit that I can't remove my own, young, Black, man's filters. But this is STILL suspect to me
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  52. Show me a situation where it WASN'T a White man. My being Black doesn't validate anything because my writing is in English; not "Black". What you're doing right now is using a sly, rhetorical trick. What you aren't doing is offering reasonable doubt. You have yet to explain why the banker didn't do her job. You've yet to explain why she was being some kinda crusader instead of proofing the check. While you're at it, tell me why his home or job mattered., I'm all ears.
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  53. @bla34112 You feel me?
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  54. @Byakuyasamamark205 You're mature? Okay. Show me. Spare me the nonsense about "my kind". People are people. "Subhuman"? Nah. The "subhuman" 1 is the guy who tries to detract from the other person's level of humanity. By that rubric, YOU are the subhuman 1. "Mix breed"? I know you aren't that bright but the notion of "purity" lends itself to birth defects & genetic predisposition to diseases that have genetic, causal links. I'll simplify that for you: mutts are healthier. You lose.
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  55. Don't get me wrong. I happen to know that Tameka & Jamal are capable of playing the race card. But I also think people should also know that racism isn't limited to burning crosses on lawns. That said, I KNOW what went down. She looked at him & saw a rap video or a stereotype in a movie. She didn't see a young brother who busts his ass to make payments on his crib & his hog. So instead of doing her own job, she placed a wager that derived from her own racism. Structural racism informed her.
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  56. @shadowedge69 Here's a fact: HAD she called to proof the check we wouldn't be talking about it right now. Like I said, an account that was forced closed is a reason for caution. But she still didn't do her job. I'm not talking about the teller. I'm talking about the person whose job is to make sure checks don't rubber. A simple call to the department from which the check was issued & a balance check for said account would have been sufficient. Do I think Chase would risk a lawsuit? Yes. I do.
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  57. @Bellita1 Until proven guilty? What about that premise for the Blackman? When does HE get treated like a citizen? Oh yeah, habias corpus doesn't apply to him because it's assumed that he's a criminal. Show me an identical instance where this happened to a Whiteman. Otherwise it's racism. That is all.
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  58. THANK you. Racism is part of what motivated the bank officer. Worse yet, the bank officer didn't do her own job. THEN the young man, honest Blackman got swallowed by the system. Meantime, the bank officer went home, ate dinner & carried on with her life. And when she discovered her error, she failed again. The second failure was not only a professional gaffe, it was a dereliction of the simplest respect that she owed her fellow human being. I bet SHE didn't lose her job or car. Sickening.
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  59. It's absolutely the banker's job to proof checks. The issue here is that the banker officer didn't DO that. Instead, she fired impertinent questions at him, wasted his time then she decided to be a hero & report a "criminal" to the authorities. This ain't about ME & MY business philosophies. This about a Chase Bank officer not proofing a check written from Chase Bank. You are an idiot if you're going to say she didn't have access to the appropriate account info AS A BANK OFFICER.
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  60. Better yet, you should be asking why all the "this ain't racism" people aren't addressing the racism in THIS video. It's really quite simple. Instead of doing the job she was paid to do, she looked the brother up & down & concluded he was a criminal. It's not like he walked with a check from TCF Bank or some small union or some fly-by-night business. It was a check FROM CHASE. That his account was forced closed isn't consequential. What IS paramount was THAT check. That bank officer blew it.
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  61. @Bellita1 It's not her JOB to investigate anything. It's her job to proof checks. She didn't fulfill her basic, professional obligation. In fact, she did the exact opposite of her job. He wasn't found guilty of a crime but he sure was punished. His only crime: Black skin.
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  62. @southpore1 Way to sidestep my premise. Way to use a red herring to debate your weak ass point. In THIS video, a Black man was mistreated by his bank. The motive is obviously racism. "You & your" people doesn't really men anything to me. But here's a more important question for you: WHAT liberal media? You're here on the Young Turks video. So it ain't like you're sitting there reading the Economist or a William F. Buckley book. Spare me the pablum. In THIS situation, racism played a huge role.
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  63. @mardi06 You're stupid.
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  64. @shadowedge69 She looked at his closed account, the new check & his Black face & thought "criminal". What she DIDN'T do was proof the check. C'mon Dude. It was ISSUED by Chase. A simple check of the account balance or a call to the department who issued the check would've satisfied any doubt she had. But that ain't what happened. She called the fuzz, filed a report & had the man hauled off to the pokey. Are you going to ignore the reality of racial profiling? Really?
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  65. Rather, he'd formerly held an account. His IRS money was routed to his account. The account was forced closed. That's not uncommon at all. They took out the money he owed them & sent him the balance in the form of a check. That's also very common. But here's where it gets funky. The bank officer couldn't recognize a check from her own bank? When I worked in pharmacy, I could always tell what office a prescription came from. I still can. But a banker doesn't know about her OWN bank? C'mon.
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  66. (cont'd II) You act like the info wasn't neatly provided on a check that was printed from the bank itself. Frail. To call his job & where he lived "germain to the issue (I love that word by the way) is really bad reasoning. He could've been a student or a disabled person or a settlement recipient or a pro athlete. So what? What's important is if the check cleared & the money was given to its rightful payee. The bank officer made no real effort to proof the check. She saw Black & called the cops.
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  67. @Bellita1 Yes. He bounced checks from his OWN account. That's why the account was forced closed. No reasonable person can object to that. But THIS check was remitted to him from a CHASE account. Please understand that very important nuance. Her job was to proof the check; not be heroic. She's got access to the info. That's her job as an officer of the bank. Instead of fulfilling her basic duty, she decided she was going to use her official title as a license to be some kinda crime fighter.
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  68. @SuperCrusader2012 Racist or not, the bank staff was negligent.
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  69. @nandansho You're correct. I can see it now. She's in training & they have the conversation about the "criminal element" with a wink, a nod & an elbow nudge. They gave her plenty of latitude. But while she was trying to be a company woman & exercise her power, she forgot her basic duty. In a way I don't blame her. I'm not saying she's off the hook. But she's a product of institutional racism. It told her that the kid was a criminal because he's Black.
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  70. @Silveracity (cont'd II) She started with the telephone thing. Cool. No problem. I understood that it wasn't chump change & that the check itself was printed from a Quicken program. But then she got to asking me where I worked, etc. At this point I was getting anxious because I wanted to get my book so I could start my class. Furthermore, I'd been using that check cashing place for several years so the amount wasn't uncommon nor was the company's name unfamiliar. (cont'd)
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  71. @southpore1 Here's the thing: it didn't happen to a White man. White generally don't have to go through this kind of nonsense. It's too bad stupid ain't a crime 'cause you're way guilty of that.
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  72. @Bellita1 Whether he was fiscally irresponsible or not is of no consequence. The bank officer's job is to make sure the check in on the up & up. Since the check was remitted BY Chase, there's really no excuse. The "mistakes happen" defense is bullshit. This man lost his job & his car because the banker was too busy trying to be a hero to do the job she trained & paid to do. If this happened to a White guy, I'd like to see proof. Otherwise that argument doesn't work. Just the facts Ma'am.
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  73. When did this happen to a White guy? Present some evidence or put away your straw man & slippery slope arguments. Deal with what happened HERE. Bear in mind that it was a check written by THIS bank. It's not like he had a TCF check & he was trying to cash it as Citizens. He had a Chase check mailed to his home. He went to THAT bank. It had HIS name on it. For 1, she had no business asking him what he did for a living. Her only job was to proof the check & give him his cash. This is racism.
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