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Comments by "upabittoolate" (@upabittoolate) on "Jesse Jackson Crying During Obama's Speech" video.
dude, you're sidestepping the question in order to evade my point because you know i'm correct. that's fine but in doing that, you forfeit your credibility.
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so you're white then. oyu have some black cousins & an asian uncle. nevertheless, that's not homogeneous. which is my point, you can say all this stuff about melanin, that's fine. but you, yourself recognize phenotypical differences. therefore you can understand my pride. if i robbed you today, you'd tell the cops "officer it was a big black man" not "officer it was a large citizen of the planet earth". we're all citizens but there are semantic & subtle differences. thanks for proving my point
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you absolutely did. i ask "making no assumptions about, tell me what what race identified group membership comprises your own nuclear or extended family?". you gave me psychobabble about the psychic connections to the people around you. while they are very real connections, you didn't answer the question. if it's about defining family fine. what is the continental origin of your family? europe, africa, asia, etc?
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okay. now spare me the mysticism about brother & sisters in spirit & tell me who's in your family.
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1st of all, the civil rights bill never passed. 2nd of all, it wasn't the support of white liberals that got rights. it was the fact that many white americans finally respected that we're all humans. also, we had thurgood marshall. nuff said
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you've evidently not studied or reflected on what jesse has done then. there's more to him than a fist fight in decatur, IL.
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my friend i'm all for the "all 1 color" hypothesis but the reality is that we're a plural society. not just genus-species classified. not assuming anything about you're race, i'll ask how how many people from another race identified group are in your family. upon that reflection, you begin to get the gist of what i'm saying
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if you really think that's the entire arc of jesse's composition, you're not only stupid but completely out of touch. jesse is no racist or thug. he's a very complex person who's given much of himself to a movement. how about you?
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quote me all you like. i never said anything about feeling superior. try to quote me on that. nevertheless, obama is a member of my race identified group. his election says something about america finally reaching some equality & that the american promise is mine for the taking too. what you don't understand is that less than 200 yrs ago, he'd be considered an animal. you really don't get it mate
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you did. remember? you said "...black thing..." nuff said
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google it
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it was enough for me. thank god for IT, she let us know she's a shady hypocrite from waaaaaay over on the christian right
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of there's a difference. but using that analogy on jackson won't work for several reasons. the main 1 being that jesse has worked with enough people, of all colors, that your claim is neutered. also, equating his activity to klan activity is foolish because no white people have yet to be lynched by the rainbow push coalition. checkmate. but either way, i'm black & i feel special pride of my mixed brother barack in a way that people from other race identified groups may not be. that's how it is
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what you don't understand is that we (black people) have an uphill climb within this western construct. whether it's something internal or if it's systemic racism, we relate in a different way. quite often, we feel like ellison's "invisible man" being forged in baldwin's "fire" then being cooled in bell's "well". so does barack. yes, it's absolutely a black thing
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because the words were fitting. phenotypical & semantic difference aren't psychobabble, their real. the way i talk to a black brother is different than the way i talk to hispanic or white brothers. the way i relate to another black brother is different than the way i relate to a hispanic or white brother. deny these differences all you want but like i said before, they are real. that being said, i talk special pleasure in seeing my black brother get elected. the same when a hispanic gets elected
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lol. i'm inclined to believe many of the "leaks" about palin. she's obviously not that smart so why is it so far fetched?
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...while there is an underlying part about him as a fellow human to which i relate because i am human, there is a black, male experience to which people cannot relate. better yet, there's a degree of empathy there that, in some ways, transcends just the way people relate 1 on 1. i hope that's clear enough for you (said with no condescension)
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you didn't as what i meant, you asked what the words meant. phenotype is a term that regards physical features. semantic is about language etymology. any more questions? be specific
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so when you first laid eyes on him you saw a biracial person? be honest with yourself. case closed. lookit, i'm totally down with the "all 1 color" thesis. but the reality in america is that we're a plural society not just genus-species classified. i'll show you how by asking you 1 question (not making any assumptions about you), how many people from another race identified group than yours are in your family immediate or extended family?... now you're seeing my point
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if you'd try to pretend that there are not social differences or the fact that most blacks in america have been denied access (and therefore been denied the american promise), then you're either being naive or dishonest. i have no problem looking at barack & saying "i identify with him a little better than many white men". anything else would be a lie. i make no presumptions about your race identified group but you'd say the same thing
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didn't have to suffer? perhaps not in the way that you think but unless you've ever been a black person, you can't tell me about the stigma attached to you or the, often abject, despair & rage you feel when confronted by systemic racism
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no, he was elected by AMERICANS. he's a black man; like it or not. this is a plural society not a homogeneous melting pot. i'll put my own feelings exactly where is choose; after all, they're mine. if you object, frankly i don't care.
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