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Most Chinese don't believe in a higher power. It's considered an atheist nation.
"A little examination of Chinese ideas of religion reveals much that is significant. To begin, their sages have reverenced Confucius conspicuously, but not in the sense of religious adoration. The feeling was philosophic accolade and an avowed obligation of emulation. The common people know vaguely of Confucianism and Buddhism and Taoism, terms which among them are mere misnomer identifications of misty superstitions and proprietary rites, having little or no connection with tenets of organized religious cults." - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend (Former US Consul who lived in 1930s China).
"Theology and ethics are in practically no sense related in Chinese conceptions. In certain respects that is perhaps in their favor, for their deplorable ethics get them into trouble enough, and if they wrangled over notions of theology in addition, the chaos would be beyond imagination. And at least the separation of religion and ethics, as a spectacle, is in favorable contrast to the situation in parts of the world where constant inbreeding of the two has produced monstrosities of both. " - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend
"The average Chinese may be shot at, starved, plundered and everything else, but he is emphatically not introspectively conscious of himself in the Hindu and Christian sense as a sore-footed pilgrim needing spiritual liniment. " - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend
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The only thing that will save China is agreed upon values rooted in equality and democracy. If you look at how they have always operated - it's always been under authoritarianism. The ego of their leaders constantly set bad precedents of behavior and set aside morals in favor of politics and power above all else. It's their culture.
"Thus it is practically certain that the masses cannot be aroused from this apathy to any assertion of resentment against their oppressors. We find that the average Chinese have little or no conception of fundamental rights, according to the theory developed in the West during the seventeenth century and expressed in mass movements in the eighteenth-the theory that every individual is entitled by the fact of birth certain privileges, to restrict which is unlawful tyranny in another. The Chinese masses look upon what we should call justice, if they get it, more as something fortunate than as something to which they are entitled. Oppressions, conversely are more misfortunes than injustices. Being looted is about like suffering from a hurricane or other force of nature. So here, among the masses, we have the inertness of ignorance. Among the educated, the great majority of them, we have the inertness of indifference, each looking out for himself, but unconcerned with the whole. " - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend (Former US Consul who lived in 1930s China)
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"Judgements are bought and sold like beans or flour. And, of course, the Chinese police are open to wholesale bribery, whereas in civilized lands, bad as conditions are in some places, a considerable number of the police are incorruptible, while public opinion operates to make them all wary of too flagrant graft. " - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend (Former US Consul who lived in 1930s China)
"Heedless toward the vague and disconnected appeals of small reform groups for collective action, 395 million Chinese - out of a possible population of 400 million - constitute the most easily intimidated people in the world. Day after day advantage is taken of this submissiveness by bandits, war lords, pirates, wholesale extortion gangs, and duly accredited provincial and central government officials, on a scale probably never before paralleled in the world's history. " - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend
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 @africaisking7817 "To what extent the Chinese at large are what they are because of their inner racial spirit, and to what extent they are so because of long-continued hardships of environment, we cannot accurately measure. The two forces merge indistinguishably, and we can observe only the force of the combination.
In the matter of environment, many centuries have passed in China since the average individual there had any significant control over his lot in life. When he emerges to existence, it is not to look upon choices, but to face forward along lines of narrow necessity, along a slim furrow of possible survival kept open by his family ancestors through the thicket of competing humanity. Into this he steps and toils until he dies.
There is no escape, no means of reaching a status of relative comfort and security, whatever the effort. Experience teaches him that moderately intensive effort means perhaps enough to keep alive, less means starvation, and more futility. The principle applying to physical endeavors applies likewise to moral endeavors. Moderate goodness keeps him out of jail, a less amount risks penalties, and a greater amount sacrifices needlessly much that the might otherwise enjoy. The Chinese thus becomes the most coolly calculating materialist the world has ever known. He lives skeptically immune to moral enthusiasms, having long ago arrived at an opportune materialism whither some of our own gospel ministers tell us we are now rapidly drifting." -"Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend
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"Thus in looking at China, summarizing everything, we are obliged to acknowledge that traditional policies have failed in results. We have lent them money and they have misused it and defaulted. We have built schools and hospitals and they have burned them down. Our missionaries, spending their lives in self-sacrifice among them, are, by instigation of the "educated" ones they have helped, tortured and slain. Our diplomatic support and general leniency have been seized upon as encouragement to atrocities with exemption from punishment. " - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend (Former US Consul who lived in 1930s China)
"Tens of thousands of Chinese students annually extract all they can get from the mission schools, and after graduation, without ever having exhibited the slightest interest in Christianity, got about getting a job in business, the government or an allied racket, banditry, or whatever looks most promising. That is natural enough, but that they should be anti-foreign after having been beneficiaries of so much is typically Chinese. " - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend
China has always been like this. It's just that for the longest time this was hidden from plain view.
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"In the matter of environment, many centuries have passed in China since the average individual there had any significant control over his lot in life. When he emerges to existence, it is not to look upon choices, but to face forward along lines of narrow necessity, along a slim furrow of possible survival kept open by his family ancestors through the thicket of competing humanity. Into this he steps and toils until he dies.
There is no escape, no means of reaching a status of relative comfort and security, whatever the effort. Experience teaches him that moderately intensive effort means perhaps enough to keep alive, less means starvation, and more futility. The principle applying to physical endeavors applies likewise to moral endeavors. Moderate goodness keeps him out of jail, a less amount risks penalties, and a greater amount sacrifices needlessly much that the might otherwise enjoy. The Chinese thus becomes the most coolly calculating materialist the world has ever known. He lives skeptically immune to moral enthusiasms, having long ago arrived at an opportune materialism whither some of our own gospel ministers tell us we are now rapidly drifting. " - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend (Former US Consul who lived in 1930s China)
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There were better ones? Lol. You know under the KMT, the Chinese people made no distinction between, the military, the police and local gangs right? They all abused the people all the same. It also not unheard of for China to be ruled by tyrannical emperors. Abuse and ego run amok has always ruled China and was always responsible for their suffering. Xi is nothing unique and he won't be the last abuser unless the Chinese people change their tolerance for bad rulers like people did in the West.
"Thus it is practically certain that the masses cannot be aroused from this apathy to any assertion of resentment against their oppressors. We find that the average Chinese have little or no conception of fundamental rights, according to the theory developed in the West during the seventeenth century and expressed in mass movements in the eighteenth-the theory that every individual is entitled by the fact of birth certain privileges, to restrict which is unlawful tyranny in another. The Chinese masses look upon what we should call justice, if they get it, more as something fortunate than as something to which they are entitled. Oppressions, conversely are more misfortunes than injustices. Being looted is about like suffering from a hurricane or other force of nature. So here, among the masses, we have the inertness of ignorance. Among the educated, the great majority of them, we have the inertness of indifference, each looking out for himself, but unconcerned with the whole. " - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend (Former US Consul who lived in 1930s China)
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 @kamsunleong6648 It's not about intelligence. It's about price. Just because you're buying something that's cheaper, doesn't mean that it's a better buy. That just means that's all you can afford. By the way, most Thai people still buy Toyotas.
Here's a breakdown of the top 10 best-selling car brands in Thailand for the period of January to December 2023:
Toyota: 265,949 units.
Isuzu: 151,935 units.
Honda: 94,336 units.
Ford: 36,483 units.
Mitsubishi: 32,668 units.
BYD: 30,432 units.
MG: 27,311 units.
Mazda: 16,544 units.
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 @joseph1150 Read "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" By Ralph Townsend. He talks about his experiences in 1930s China when the KMT were in power. If you read the book you will understand that China has always been the chaotic mess it is.
"From personal experience with Chinese officials, observation of the Chinese at large, and drawing upon the experiences of many acquaintances whose service collectively has taken them all over China into areas no one person could know intimately, it is a reasonable conviction that there are not enough straightforward, honest Chinese available to man any kind of government there. This is not a personal cynicism. It merely phrases common and competent foreign judgment on the scene" - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend (Former US Consul who lived in 1930s China)
"Most thoughtful foreigners in China today believe that a monarchy would be best for the country in its present stage. Where trustworthiness is as scarce as it is in China, it is probably better to have a government highly centralized, requiring as few authoritative individuals as possible, in order to utilize most effectively the limited amount of honestly available. But even with a highly centralized monarchy, or dictatorship, some delegation of responsibility in the lower official orders is unavoidable, and there are not enough reliable men in China to fill these posts. " - "Ways that are dark: The Truth About China" by Ralph Townsend
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