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Jesus Christ not God. It is clear from the verses below that he was indeed 100% man.
John 17.3...jesus says to the father...that they may know you, THE ONLY TRUE GOD and Jesus whom you sent.
John 20.17 Jesus says....I am ascending to my father and your father, my God and your God.
Acts 2:22
āMen of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth wasĀ a man accredited by GodĀ to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men,Ā the manĀ Christ Jesus.
Romans 5:15
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of theĀ one manĀ (Adam) how much more did Godās grace and the gift that came by the grace of theĀ one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
The Greek word for āmanā in these verses isĀ anthropos.
The Greek wordĀ anthroposĀ means āa human being, whether male or female, generically, to include all human individuals, to distinguish man from beings of a different race or order.ā
AnthroposĀ is used to describe Adam, the first man. In the same verse (Romans 5:15) it is used to describe Jesus Christ. If words mean anything, one must believe that Jesus Christ was a flesh and blood human being just like Adam.
On the other hand, Scripture says āGod isĀ notĀ a man.ā
Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie,Ā nor a son of manā¦
Numbers 23:19 (NRSV)
God is not a human being, that he should lie,Ā or a mortalā¦
Hosea 11:9
For I am God, and not manā the Holy One among you..š¢
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Heart breaking š but the key to all the confusion.
The Gospel of John begins with the astonishing claim that Jesus was no less than God Himself! John claims that, in Jesus, God became human flesh and lived among us. And that He did it in order to bring us into
eternal relationship with Himself ā to make us āchildren of Godā forever. Johnās Gospel goes on to
describe Jesusā miraculous āsignsā and his heart-searching words that testified to His true identity as
āthe Christā. The Gospel ends with the words,
āJesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in
this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God,
and that by believing you may have life in his name.ā John 20:20-31
Richard Dawkins calls the Bible āa chaotically cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents,
composed, revised, translated, distorted and 'improved' by hundreds of anonymous authors, editors
and copyists, unknown to us and mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuriesā.
Letās take the Gospel of John, the fourth Gospel. Is there good evidence to believe that
what we read in Johnās Gospel is a true account of what Jesus actually said and did?
Up until a few hundred years ago, no-one really questioned whether Johnās Gospel was historical. But
with growing scepticism over the reality of God and the supernatural (a philosophical and cultural
movement known as the Enlightenment), scholars began to suggest other explanations for the origins
of the Gospel. Against the traditional view of the Gospel having been written by a disciple of Jesus
and eyewitness to his life, death and resurrection, they argued that the Gospel was, in reality, written
by someone living hundreds of years later, and hundreds of miles away. And the concepts in John,
they said, were too Greek, and not Jewish enough (as the other three Gospels, Matthew, Mark and
Luke, were). Johnās idea that Jesus was āGod in the fleshā, for example, was said to reflect much later
developments in Christian theology. So for these reasons, by around 1900, most New Testament
scholars believed that Johnās Gospel could not be considered as reliable history.š®
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Look at what the bible says regarding salvation. Even the wickedest of the wicked can save themselves by repentance. Not just forgiven, God says He will forget the sin. And he says the son will not bare the inequities of the father ( original sin) and vice versa because God is just.
Please explain why salvation was possible thru repentance, but after Paul's work, there is no salvation except by blood?
He will not die for his fatherās sin; he will surely live. 18But his father will die for his own sin, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was wrong among his people.
19āYet you ask, āWhy does the son not share the guilt of his father?ā Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. 20The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.
21āBut if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. 22None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. 23Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
24āBut if a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked person does, will they live? None of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness they are guilty of and because of the sins they have committed, they will die.
25āYet you say, āThe way of the Lord is not just.ā Hear, you Israelites: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust? 26If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin, they will die for it; because of the sin they have committed they will die. 27But if a wicked person turns away from the wickedness they have committed and does what is just and right, they will save their life,,,.,.
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Sadly xtians throw these teachings of Jesus away for those of their false prophet Paul š¢
š Jesus: The only true God is The Father!
š£ The Church: No! You're also a true god!
š Jesus: By myself I can do nothing!
š£ The Church: No! You can do everything!
š Jesus: The Lord our God is ONE!
š£ The Church: No! The lord our god is three in one!
š Jesus: If you want eternal life then keep The Commandments!
š£ The Church: No! If you want eternal life then believe that Jesus died for your sins!
š Jesus: I cried and prayed to God PBTH to save me from the crucifixion and God heard my prayers!
š£ The Church: No! God didn't save him so we can be saved by his blood!
š Jesus: My Father is greater than I, my Father is greater than all!
š£ The Church: No! The Father is not greater than you, you're both co-equal!
š Jesus: I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel, not the gentiles!
š£ The Church: No! You were sent to the entire world!
š Jesus : Circumcise male children as God Commanded!
š£ The Church: No! Circumcision is unnecessary and will profit us nothing. This is what Paul said, the one you came to in a dream!
š Jesus: I didn't come to abolish the Laws!
š£ The Church: No, you came to abolish it all! The law brings wrath, and where there is no law, there is no transgression! This is what Paul said!
š Jesus: If you love me keep my commandments!
š£ The Church: No, don't listen to him Christians! If you love him then keep the Church Commandments built by Paul, the early Christian persecutor!
š Jesus: I never met Paul!
š£ The Church: No! You came to him in a dream, can't you recall?
š Jesus: I never ate ham and so you should as God Commanded!
š£ The Church: No! Ham is good!
š Jesus: I've finished all the work that God gave me before my departure!
š£ The Church: No! You waited till you ascend to heaven and came in a dream to an early Christian persecutor to negate everything you've preached for 33 years!
š Jesus: š¤Øš¤Øš¤Øš John 8:42-47
42 Jesus said to them, āIf God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 WHY IS MY LANGUAGE NOT CLEAR TO YOU? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 YOU BELONG TO YOUR FATHER, THE DEVIL, AND YOU WANT TO CARRY OUT YOUR FATHERāS DESIRES. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, NOT HOLDING TO THE TRUTH, FOR THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. WHEN HE LIES, HE SPEAKS HIS NATIVE LANGUAGE, FOR HE IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF LIES. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why donāt you believe me? 47 WHOEVER BELONGS TO GOD HEARS WHAT GOD SAYS! THE REASON YOU DON'T HEAR IS THAT YOU DON'T BELONG TO GOD!ā
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