Comments by "Colorme Dubious" (@colormedubious4747) on "Inside Elon Musk's underground loop tunnels in Las Vegas" video.

@gary6516 Subway trains can go 2 to 3 times faster than these cars and carry HUNDREDS of people. He doesn't build and sell trains, though, so we get this silly marketing gimmick that no city in their right mind will buy.
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@user-RCST Wow. Just... wow. You completely dodged addressing the actual point I made, which is that this is no more than another one of dozens of transportation proposals that end up going nowhere because they offer no compelling advantage over existing solutions. If they really can build a better tunnel more cost-effectively, why aren't they submitting bids to cities that are building subway and other tunnels instead of installing pretty lights in a hole full of cars? Because it's a gimmick to SELL CARS. The ONLY reason that Tesla and SpaceX haven't imploded by now is because of massive taxpayer-funded subsidies. If you want to buy a car, that's fine, but why should I have to kick in MY money for YOUR car?
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@user-RCST Competitors? WHAT competitors? There was no RFP issued for a transit tunnel that connects a nothing to another nothing! This is nothing more than a marketing gimmick to sell Teslas. If this was truly about public transportation, he could have expanded the fully-automated transit system that ALREADY EXISTS in Las Vegas and already has a station at the LVCC.
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@user-RCST I'm losing interest in debating a fangirl. The man shot a CAR into SPACE, for God's sake! What did THAT have to do with ANYTHING? Teslas are sold with the aid of a generous tax credit (paid for by U.S. taxpayers). The bread and butter of SpaceX is government contracts and they basically photocopied NASA research and testing from 60 years ago, also paid for by U.S. taxpayers. These are inarguable facts. Your opinion is hyper-biased but no matter how hard you throw yourself at him, he's just not that into you. I've witnessed this exact scenario play out at least a dozen times and you're just going to end up broken-hearted, weeping in your low-calorie vegan beer.
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@user-RCST Yes, and the Hyperloop will connect Los Angeles to San Francisco. Eventually... Let me spell it out for you: THIS IS A MARKETING GIMMICK.
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@user-RCST You're comparing apples and screwdrivers. Invest all your money in Boring and tell us how it worked out for you. I've been researching and writing about transportation and urban planning issues since 1992 and Musk might be great at digging holes but, as a transportation "solution," he offers nothing new. Do you remember Raytheon's PRT system? DuoRail? Cantilevered bidirectional monobeam? The "automated" Civis bus that was tested in Vegas back in 2002 or so? You do not, but every investor who got zero return on those and dozens of other "innovative transportation solutions" certainly does! I've seen this one-act play dozens of times and it always ends the same way: In tears.
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@user-RCST Irony is ironic. You called me "stupid" twice but I fire off a rather clever comeback and you call me "weak" in return while pretending that I started the ad-homs. He could have shot a few jugs or tanks of water to "test payload capacity." He sent up a car because he is a brilliant marketer/self-promoter. I never said the Falcon flew in the sixties, Mr. Strawman. VTVL craft were used by NASA back then. You MIGHT have heard of the lunar module and the LLRV. I've seen a few Thunderf00t videos about magic water scams but I've never even heard of "common skeptic." I don't hate Musk, I just don't view him as particularly innovative considering that everything he's promoted since PayPal has been derived from existing, long-proven technology. My opinion regarding the LVCC tunnel is based on decades of experience with public transportation technology and related issues. The dustbin of history is littered with failed proposals that sound exactly like the promotion of that silly car tunnel. Even if he were to achieve all his stated objectives for it, where are they going to park all those cars and who is going to pay for the garages? How are they dealing with the fact that people will exhale carbon dioxide in unventilated tunnels? What happens when there's a fire? How will they prevent a "violent political activist" from driving a "Tesla of Peace" into the system? I see no sensible answers, just much handwaving on these topics, just like those failed systems I noted that you didn't address. All that being said, I hope his tunnel project for the CTA goes well. I'm just not going to take anything at face value until it's complete because, in the REAL world, promises are cheap but cost overruns are all-too common. Perhaps we should both settle down until trains are running to O'Hare in their shiny new tunnel.
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@TheHeavenman88 Your figures are flawed. A single track can move 10 - 18 times as many people as a lane of traffic. Trains last about 50 years before major renovation is needed. Buses about 12 years. Cars typically half that. Also, your subway first-mile cost includes tunnels, stations, fixtures, rolling stock, SS&I facilities, and so on. Your cost for the LV tunnel is ONLY the tunnel -- it doesn't include the cost of the cars or the absolutely MASSIVE parking structures that will be required in already-dense central business districts. Quit fangirling and use your head for more than a hat rack, This Vegas project solves NO problem that actually exists and is clearly nothing more than a marketing gimmick to sell Teslas.
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You "reporters" are insanely gullible. In a world where subways have existed for more than a century, the "problem" this concept is "solving" simply doesn't exist. Trains can move roughly 10 to 18 times as many people as a lane of traffic, which SHOULD carry nearly 2,000 people per hour, which is far above and beyond this loopy thing. It's obvious that this is nothing more than a ridiculously expensive gimmick to sell Teslas. Buy a Tesla if you want, I have NO problem with that, but if you're going to spend tens or hundreds of millions of dollars to poke holes under my city, there'd better be some trains in them because there's no room to park all those damned Teslas downtown!
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@dogtato If it's faster and cheaper to build, why didn't he just contract to build a subway instead? They could move 10 - 18 times as many people per hour per direction and wouldn't have to worry about building massive parking structures for all those cars. Think, McFly, think!
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@bearschmidt3180 $20? ridiculous. A day pass for the monorail is only $13, and will take you from the MGM to the Sahara with a view that this thing cannot match as it takes you under the LVCC parking lot. LMFAO.
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@markplott4820 You can? Where? Link, please.
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