Comments by "Alexander Philip" (@alexanderphilip1809) on "India's Semiconductor Failure" video.

8:24 Thats what I'd like to call the Indian Experience. Losing progress is kindof our thing. Smart/driven people suffocating under a dysfunctional ideology driven system.
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@harshjain3122 democracy is not entirely to blame here. But yiu are broadly correct, from Singapore to South Korea to Taiwan and even Malaysia had politcal continuity under UMNO, that kind of continuity can establish consensus amongst the ruling elite and thats not counting foresight. In India forget foresight when the we hell have we had consensus on anything of importance ? Labour laws? Regulatory capture by organised labour, Remember the suit boot ki sarkar crap that the opposition pulled, Land reforms ? Agri reforms look the cluster fck that is NCR.
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@Fast_studyIQ um not really. Nothing is on the table on the commercial level. Most of it is for research purposes especially considering even the most modest of our modern phones use less than 24nm config. Its really pathetic.
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Tried multiple times, Failed patherically might i add multiple times.
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@excitableboy7031 how ill informed are you expecting PLI scheme's to work in every damn sector which is typical Indian one size fits all sectors b.s, Nation states across the planet are pouring in billions to subsidize this industry despite already possessing superior infrastructural and highly skilled educated workforce (especially in the STEM subjects), all the Nations that have strong presence is semiconductor sector rank highly on the PISA ranking, India is not even in the running, NEP is supposed to change things but I reserve my judgement till i see some genuine improvements on the ground.
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@ashishpatel350 that's a fundamentally flawed arguement which holds strength if you assume only government can invest in infrastructure, imposing customs duty on any aspect of smeiconductor industry that requires boat loads of capital thereby increasing the cost associated with is is only something you'd expect from India where everything is inferior to the state's power, that kind of obsession with getting a power trip out of making govt policy is amongst the reason why india is what it is, despite its potential.
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@adithyadanaj9768 yeah right. I agree with what EODB measures but ranking 63rd is not a goddamn achievement especially considering that the index only measures the performances of a handful of tier one regions. Modi has done some groundwork but expecting him to carry the nation into prosperity is kinda idiotic considering the legislative and structural deficiencies wielded into the Indian system. Expecting India to get this right is like expecting Frankenstein's monster to behave like a normal human being.
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@ravishbhasin7041 a single accident caused that event, the inability to adapt to the circumstances following an adverse setback revels the flaws in your organisational strucuture, In India's case it it did, calling me dork wont change that nor will it give your arguement weight, You dont read much do you ?
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@jarjarbinks3193 you dont know what you are talking about Ganges ranks at the top of the most poluted rivers on the planet. Even by the most conservative estimates its still in the top 5.
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@ravishbhasin7041 whether you like it or not while the NH's are economically vital rail and maritime transports are still far more cost effective by an order of magnitude. India has a huge coastline but very few rivers that are commercially navigable all year round without expensive investments, The Chinese have Yangtze. Ganga is a filthy mess and has limitations in matching the Yangtze, The Americans have the Mississipi and its tributaries, The Germans have the Rhine, Elbe, Danube, Oder and many to canel to match, The French and British have the Siene and Thames respectively, these rivers were crucial to the successful industrialisation and subsequent development of their societies. Doesnt mean you cant industrialize without navigable rivers, it would just be harder to muster the requisite capital to fund the expensive infra and organisational/institutional setups that would be required down the road.
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@adithyadanaj9768 you do know that Taiwan isnt known for the superior Size of its domestic economy same goes true for Malaysia. In an infra deficient state like india where even projects like DFC have been pending for the better part of the decade, looking at the cost structure is just disassociating from the more basic requirements which is a technically skilled labour pool with a differentiated wage structure which is a sore point for institutional sjw nuts, there is a reason why Europe cant bring the semicondutor fab clusters back to their shores in significant numbers to leave a dent in the global scene.
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@adithyadanaj9768 your also wildly wrong, political stability is also an acute necessity with an oversensitive indian citizenry that whines about everything under the sun, its kinda rich expecting no political pushbacks from whatever region these units might be setup (which will have to be in the far south Peninsular region to account for potential safety concerns from our north western border)
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If you say India is pathetic better be ready to back it up with a why or a how.
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Another thing that comes to mind is that all these states from Taiwan to China to Malaysia to Singapore built their expertise and upskilled their work force in a timely manner took the better part of more than two decades. Expecting India to do it in what ten years is laughable. We only really started to take reforms seriously after Modi came to power even though Congress had some plans, all of it took a back seat to their blatant corruption. Even with this century India can only hope to be as rich as Turkey at best and if I am being blindly optimistic China/Malaysia and thats by 2100.
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@Bialy_1 @Biały you werent listening. Having a lot of people is not a metric for success for any nation, its the ethnolinguistic and sociocultural and make of that society that aids in its political development, Malaysia, Taiwan, South Korea and Even China have remarkably clear and consolidated majorities that speak the same language and believe in pretty much same things, thats a huge bonus India simply doesnt not have at the federal level, you'd only find that at the state level, even then India's fetish for democracy and rights over everything else means nothing will ever get done as a politics always takes priority over governance. India is a collection of strong regional nationalities unlike the other the states that i compared it to, the fact that you find what i said laughable just shows how much you dont know what the hell you are talking about, I mean if numbers alone could guarantee a countries development Nigeria, Ethiopia and the Central African Republic should all have been bastions of brilliance and technological and economic success,instead they are poor developing but poor despite their natural wealth in oil, Rivers and minerals they are poor. I am not excusing India's Incompetance but merely pointing out why India is the way it is. So next time learn to read between the lines.
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@ravishbhasin7041 I for one wont blame PM singh he was the right man, they just gave him the wrong job.
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@ravishbhasin7041 again you fail to understand the simple reality that Bureaucracies have a huge role in how these capital intensive projects especially ones that require active government buy ins work. Even if SCL broke the challenges, scaling it would have reqiured more capital than India could afford to have spared at the time. Nuclear adventure was ill advised but hey hindsight is always 20/20, we had the tech to make a nuke since before the eighties, the tests were just to prove a point, we would always win a conventional war with the pakies but kicking it up a notch gave them the incentive to go nuclear created the stale mate we are in, countries like Botswana are prime example for not going to picking up the gauntlet when it suits them. Avoiding a war should always be our intend but winning it on the strategic level should always be our objective, this again comes back ti the point i was making about incompetant bureaucracies and govt setups, we are yet to cut down the IOF's or at the very least reform them to be more efficient and competitive, but Trade unionists have a strong say in how that pans out, it would require overwhelming political will, in which regards Modi is slipping, due to his unnecessary misadventures.
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@ravishbhasin7041 again you fail to understand the simple reality that Bureaucracies have a huge role in how these capital intensive projects especially ones that require active government buy ins work. Even if SCL broke the challenges, scaling it would have reqiured more capital than India could afford to have spared at the time. Nuclear adventure was ill advised but hey hindsight is always 20/20.
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@Asianometry thats not much to go by especially considering both of those sectors at this point in time are worthless without the hardware to support them. Just saying.
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@Asianometry 😂
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Piss off. If and When we control it we can claim it as ours. We are not the chinesw
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Democracy, socialism and environmentalism three main barriers to economic development in India, thats not even counting the standard factors like poor educational standards, unskilled graduates, inefficient ideology driven bureaucracy, infra deficits, a citizenry that considers itself on par with western citizens on moral issues(labour issue and presently the farmers issue being the prime factor) but are broadly as stupid as they are sanctimonious.
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@metagde6402 bless you for being honest. Its that natural defensive sentiment took me years to see past the jingoistic obssesions to see why India is truly dysfunctional. Most of our fellow citizens just swallow the India is great crap, the ones that dont are intellectual left wing nuts who are as much of liablity and hinderance to development as the rest of the political cliques.
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You my friend just nailed the whole coffin.
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@metagde6402 its more to do with the politico-bureaucratic nexus as conspiratorial as that sounds.
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@libshastra Man. I'd buy you a cup of coffee if i could.
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@julm7744 proximity to supply chain.plus even if they are corrupt they dont have a decidedly left leaning regulatory framework thats inherently hostile to the much needed capital.
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@julm7744 organized opposition or otherwise known as lobbying by pathetic domestic players.
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@libshastra @Shiv Mel Right on all accounts including the long term viability of stepping out off RCEP, but if we were a little but more sharper and hadnt been saddled with populist wet dreams we could've diverted those funds to subsidize our more commercially viable sectors in the hope that in due course they'd turn a profit. But the land acquisition aspect still irks me, considering that India is a democracy, states cant be relied upon for long term strategic investments, indian public or its politicians in none of the states has the political, economic or strategic acumen for that. Lets not even talk about organized labour and the consequences of regulatory capture by interest groups, especially on that inherently trends towards being luddites(changing it would again require massive investments in the education not to mention restructuring the system, in a labour surplus country like India thats still on the lowest end in terms of looking at value chains, unlikely chief.)
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@ravianantharamaiah7567 more powerful ? India ? Gettibg ahead of yourself there boss. We dont even speak the same language for gods sake country my ass. We still had the early 2000s after smoothing out of relations what the hell where we doing mud gazing ?
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Taiwan and S.Korea are in the CCP's backyard in the event of a hot shooting war we'll at best be able to sit around like muppets waiting for the shipments to arrive, the closest thing India can hope is that the Malaysians decide to move up the ladder and leave a gap at the bottom for us to wriggle through and have access to the high end design and manufacturing cluster as close to the subcontinent as possible. Also just because India has engineers and scientists working for these fabless firms doesnt mean our future is guaranteed. In Taiwan bringing in Morris Chang was just one step in a long line of policy decisions that require a level of bureaucratic and political competancy that is virtually unheard of in Indian poltical/bureaucratic realm. Lets not get ahead of ourselves. The dutch and the germans are the real masters of the game here.
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@metagde6402 Europe doesnt manufacture chips. They make the machines(ASML/Carl Zeiss he has already covered this) that make making the chips possible.
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In honesty the brittish had nearly a century of ruling experience and they weere here for our wealth control was a byproduct, the left in India is so damn regressive that it makes the Sanghparivar gang look sane.
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