Comments by "Alexander Philip" (@alexanderphilip1809) on "Apple slaves revolt, destroy factory over $7/month pay" video.

which is exactly what it is and its perfectly fine. China does it, S.Korea and Taiwan did it until their labor was price out, Infact suppression of labor activism and strikes is a foundational necessity for sustained industrial expansion and moving up the value chain, Japan did it with their Enterprise unions(which is a corporated sys.), Taiwan didnt even allow collective bargaining and had a union that was effectively controlled by kuomintang, Same goes for S.K and Singapore who had one union thaymt the state could control to facilitate and institute industrial development. You wanna go back to reliving Datta Samant's moronic delusions, be my fckkng guest. Vietnamese, Thais and Indonesians are already angling for the outbound investments from china centric OEM's. The former two have clear advantages over India.
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@johanmetreus1268 parastic work force that strikes to gain unwarranted concession doesnt help the sustainability of a business either. You live in the west, removed from the excesses of parasitic labor activists, There are few reasons why outsourcing became a thing. so just dont.
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@me700gnomes No No and No. Maybe in the US. But United States is not the world. Your country has the wealth and inherent domestic advantages to make such concessions. The rest of the world is not so lucky.
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@me700gnomes when do you think Outsourcing as an option began to emerge ?
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@fappesaft1249 No. There is a stronger cultural force at play. Scandanavian countries are ethnolinguistically homogenous for the most part. Creates a sense of close knit solidarity and sense of unity, The perks of which extend to the majority of people possessing a willingness to make sacrifices for those they consider to be part of the "family" vis-a-vis your avg fellow citizen and that goes beyond mere class fantasies. Look at countries with strong industrial and manufacturing systems and the corresponding level of participation in unions and the ethnolinguistic make up of the society(Germany being the obvious one there is also nearly every country in Europe). I guarantee you there will be either an ethnic/linguistic or cultural majority(definition of which varies from country to country) that forms the core of the support group for the sustainment of that system. Ergo not universally practical for a country to endorse trade unions, without removing unions and applying pressure when needed no cpuntry on the planet has become and industrialized state unless you use a corporated system which very few societies have the option of.
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@bigkirbyhj666 Anarchists are always a nuisance.
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@MegaBanne China didnt liberalize did quite well for themselves despite that. liberalization is useless without the agency, capital and infrastructure foundations. Which is why there is divergence amongst countries who liberalized. A country needs to follow a Colbertist/mercantalist model for a significant period of time, To develop the basic necessities of nation building and industrial infrastructure to take advantage of a future move towards liberalization. Indian manufacturing was mediocre before liberalization its largely worse after liberalization with some very bright exceptions.
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@MegaBanne OOH such biting insights. Corporate oligarchs didnt rule shit. They influences policy, Policy which was ultimately defined by State in India's case the Empire's Interest. There is a reason why youbdont hear about EIC going about their businesses nowadays. The state influenced and leveraged corporations to further the former's interests, It was a symbiotic relationship. Kinda like what the Japanese did later.
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@MegaBanne India has been a sovereign socialist country for 60+ years. You are using the example of one company whose success was more of an indictment of Indian incompetence and political disunity than anything. while Countries like Japan and Korea developed and used Zaibatsus and Chaebols to advance along the industrial and technologica value chain. Strongly held anticapitalist and socialist fetishes condemned India to be what it is today. The problem with the "evil" capitalist company(EIC) that ran India was not capitalism but to whom did the benefits accrue.(The profits and tax revenues generated where sent back to London) and whether the country in which these companies operated had the capacity to enforce what ever legal provisions that did exist to rein them in. India failed at capitalism and never recovered from that failure, Even after independance the trauma of that failure lingered to the point that India didnt participate in globalization(in relative terms) until they failed again at the socialist developmental state model after which they had no choice but to. In essence India is most experienced at failing more than it is at successes(which are nominal to begin with). So dont go about barking on the evil's of capitalism as of capitalism is about some sentimentalist vision, Its the equivalent of crying about the immorality of nuclear energy. Its a tool unlike socialism which needs large scale social buy making it fundamentally ideological. Capitalism has survived in various forms across millenias, so in essence Cap's body count is higher by virtue of having been around longer but spread out across space and time while Soc and Com managed to rack up the numbers that they did in less than three centuries.
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@MegaBanne Not officially ? The where constituted by a literal Royal Charter. They had the mandate.
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@MegaBanne @Electro-Cute Leopold presided over a small country in Europe surrounded by great powers. You dont survive in such an environment by grand standing on principles of social justices. Again assuming that you are Indian Read the preamble of the fckig Indian constitution courtesy of IG. Read the fine print of the Indian Industrial Policy Resolution of 1956. There are entire states who have had continuous far left goverments in power at the subnational level through out their entire post Independence existence than right leanin ones and you talk about 'oohh no socialism'.
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@dkoda840 corporatized. not entirely but its getting there. Frankly america could use some protectionist measures to deal with the outflow of jobs. Nafta 2 should reshore some. Infact last I heard you were looking at a labor crunch.
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@MegaBanne You've been swallowing too much of Vaush's illinformed banal ideological bs. If you dont have it, Maybe get a job ?
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you want sentimentalism. run a charity.
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Got lost in translation.
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@setter_soul_waifu0930 something is better than nothing. india is already a terrible place for manufacturing one of the reasons why it lags behind its regional peers in that regard. You need only look at India's export mix. The share of manufactured goods is pathetic to begin with.
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What people need to understand is that there are layers to this incident. Its the middlemen/agents that rope in workers and they are responsibile for the dissemination of salaries considering that these guys are on contract. I think they've already reopened after the initial controversy and the suppliers are planning for an expansion with labor hostels and what not to increase their capacity.
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They did burn and destroy company property. The consequence of which would be India becomes a more untenable place to do business in.
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