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  1. One thing that Mark did not mention is that pilot Paul Rätz's story did not end when he passed away. He returned to Germany in 1949 and raised a family. They know about the discovery of the plane and Paul's son was very instrumental to the research because he had his dad's logbooks and other info. Paul Rätz's family has the original clock from the plane now too.
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  2. The pilot was slumped forward and can be seen in sequence photos in the NTSB report. He would have experienced sudden high G's when aircraft pitched up and would have been unconscious. The high G loading would have incapacitated a pilot of any age. A similar incident occurred with a young pilot named Bob Hannah, although he regained consciousness as his plane lost speed in the climb without nosing over in a dive. You can read about Bob Hannah's experience in written articles.
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  3.  @djzrobzombie2813  There was an intact Zero found resting in the marshes on Guam in the 1960s. The plane had tangled with US Navy aircraft during the well-known Marianas Turkey Shoot, and the pilot nursed it back for a forced landing. But he died in hospital from his wounds several days later. That plane was salvaged in the 1960s is now in display in Japan.
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  4. +Hugh Johnston The description mentions four Fw-190s coming into West Malling, the first crashing after Oblt. Kurt Klahn bailed out and died in his parachute. The second made a successful landing and pilot Fw. Otto Bechtold was captured. The third Fw-190 was fired upon and caught fire and was destroyed in place with pilot Ltn Fritz Setzer also taken POW. The fourth Fw-190 crashed nearby after missing the runway, with pilot Ofw. Otto Schulz taken POW with serious injuries. So actually only one Fw-190 captured and this was Fw-190 A-4/U8, W.Nr 147155, "Yellow H." Like other captured Fw-190s #147155 was repainted in British markings and assigned number PE882 for flight evaluation in late April 1943. https://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/PippinBill/7234L.jpg It was flight tested by Captain E Brown in early February 1944. It remained as a test aircraft with the Enemy Aircraft Flight until October 1944 when it was forced down by an engine fire and crashed, killing pilot F/Lt Ernest Richards Lewenden. So none of the West Malling Fw-190 survive today.
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  5.  @fractrum7111  Flugwerk produced 21 replica Fw-190s sold as bare kits for buyers to complete. To date only about eight or nine have been completed to flying status, several suffering accidents. Three of the 21 kits are in D-9 configuration but none of those have emerged as flying examples at this time, being used for slow D-9 projects. The entire Flugwerk project, spares, jigs, etc were offered for sale and have been purchased by GossHawk in Arizona which serves as the Flugwerk replica repair/service shop. And GossHawk is also getting closer to finishing a wartime Fw-190A-8 restored to original flying condition to be the second authentic airworthy Fw-190.
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  6. It was already known that the pilot was RAF Flight Sergeant Dennis Copping. It is still unclear why he flew in the wrong direction from his flight orders and it is understood that he perished in the desert. A perimeter search near the plane found some "remains" but even several years later Copping's remains still have not been formally identified for a proper military funeral. 
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  7. +ghostrider13bg The pilot was slumped forward against the instrument panel, as shown in multiple photos in the NTSB report documents. If you can image the forces at work on the pilot, the plane slowing down from 525 mph to 375 mph in a second or so, plus pitching up with vertical G-loads at the same time. The pilot was out cold.
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  8. +Dawid Mlodzikowki The NTSB did not say he was too old to fly, and reaction time or strength made no difference in this accident. The crash was caused by old parts, not the age of the pilot.
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  9. +slowerthinker I believe it a combination of a new Flugwerk replica #99007 and parts from the wreckage of Fw-190A-8 W.Nr. 682060 "Rote 5" JG3 shot down on 17-Dec-1944 over Cologne. They are still building D-9 for display at Gatow using parts of a Flugwerk and parts from wreckage pulled out of Lake Schwerin.
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  10. It was disassembled by a team of experts and moved into storage for protection. I'm not sure whether it will end up in an Egyptian museum or a British museum, but I believe the plan is for it to be displayed as-is. Hopefully it will survive the political turmoil there and go to a museum.
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  11.  @rkan2  Funny that Allen did spend close to $10 million to restore the Fw-190 with as much original items as possible. Replacement items were remade as original also, even the new electrical wiring is period correct.
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  12.  @StuckOnAFireHydrant  The US Navy still claims their aircraft under Maritime Law worldwide and they have come after people such as Lex Crawley until the US Congress stepped in and gave the plane to him. The USN has gotten relaxed enough to work with some recoveries but that is still their policy. Lake Michigan aircraft have been fished out explicitly for Navy museums. There is a new project to raise a number of the well-preserved aircraft that are deep with the USS Lexington, so we'll see how that project works out if successful.
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  13. +SkiTle And by recent accounts, the DNA testing was botched in Egypt, with no anthropological examination of the bones or the location where the bones were found. (Male? Female? Age? Race of the remains? Nope.) Now the bones have disappeared. No other military gear found with the bones is suspect. His seat harness was cut, and you could also speculate that he was found dead in the cockpit and buried by the local tribesmen. It's a shame for the memory of Dennis Copping. The wreckage of the plane was moved into storage several years ago, but the current whereabouts are now uncertain.
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  14. Tele Player That's pretty much it. Bones that were found somewhere near the wreckage were not thoroughly examined and have since disappeared in the chaos of the military overthrow of the Egyptian government. (The bones could be anybody who perished in the desert.) Likewise, the container with the aircraft is missing from El Alamein. There are presently only rumors that the aircraft has left Egypt. A sad state of affairs, though nobody could have predicted the unrest and the plane was suffering further vandalism just leaving it in the desert. No win situation.
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  15. My Integra drove like it was on rails. Ninety felt like a leisurely fifty-five and a fun drive. I had to sell after it was just too hard to get OEM parts to keep it maintained. Over 250K trouble-free miles.
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  16. +@JuergenGDB The project wasn't a secrect, they needed buyers. Classic Fighter Industries collaborated with an expert in Texas and then the aircraft were complete in WA. CFI was reformed into Legend Flyers and they do restorations.
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  17. Adrian Larkins Technically, this was an RAF Kittyhawk that was flown by an RAF officer who died in the line of duty. So the RAF should indeed take this aircraft for their museum since I doubt it will get any deserving care in an Egyptian museum. (And if it doesn't get trashed in the turmoil over there now.)  Displaying it as-is is fine for this plane as a memorial to the lost pilot.
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  18. +@fergusbroad The example in the South African Museum of Military History is Me-262B-1a/U1 two-seat night fighter, Wk.Nr. 110305. There is a two-seat trainer version (Me-262B-1a, Wk.Nr. 110639) at the US Navy Museum in Pensacola, FL and it is a trainer version, and it was the exact aircraft used by Allied pilots to train on the Me-262 with a POW Luftwaffe instructor pilot.
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  19. +Sterling Crockett No "229" flew, only the prototypes that were different designs. V1 glider - crashed and destroyed. V2 with jet engines - flew two hours testing and crashed and destroyed. The larger V3 that survives today never flew. This was not a mature design program, though the Hortens should be recognized for their work.
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  20. + @Maria It also went across Canada and they could have dropped it onto the big open Canadian prairie if Canada had seen any need to do so.
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  21.  @edgein3299  The original engine was roasted from oil loss. The restoration located about six engines to get enough parts to build a working one. The Collings Foundation has a Fw-190F-8 that was just finished and will also fly with a BMW 801 engine.
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  22. +@bernardmueller5676 CJ610 engines. Paul Allen's museum has restored their original Me-262 with Jumo engines, but ground testing/final work is not completed at this time.
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  23. +james4041 The mods were known and common for most of the race planes. But they didn't complete all of the required paperwork and only performed the minimum flight testing. So the NTSB recommended that those race planes conduct more flight testing. The modifications did not cause the accident. It was old parts in the flight controls, which has been addressed by a new FAA mandate to replace them. The 1999 fatal accident with Miss Ashley II (half Mustang and half Learjet) should have been a bigger wake-up call that more flight testing should be done.
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  24. Adrian Larkins I believe the UK is working with Egyptian officials to get the plane relocated to RAF Hendon. Hopefully that will happen since it will be in very good hands there.
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  25. +TheThirdMan Exactly. That television show only created a belief cult around the 229 program. The aircraft was not entirely wooden and the engines were shrouded in welded steel panels from front to back for fire resistance.
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  26. You'd have a point if the NTSB report said he was too old, but they did not. The only issue regarding age was the old nuts used in the trim tab controls that failed, and the FAA issued a new requirement to replace them in all flying P-51s.
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  27. +@T.Imhotep Highly doubtful that two Me-262s could eliminate 30 piston aircraft in one engagement. The Me-262 was a meant to be a fast interceptor. It loses the speed and maneuverability advantage in a turning fight with slower aircraft. If this encounter took place, I suspect several Soviet aircraft were lost and the remainer scattered or broke off the fight. Some exaggeration in this story.
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  28. +@roothehymejedi9871 You can see the cockpit doors blown off and several other panels. The concussion probably disabled or killed anyone onboard, and nobody was controlling it until impact.
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  29. +@rootherhymejedi9871 I've looked at this video many times and never noticed that something tumbles out of that gaping hole at the 14-second mark. Hard to tell if that is an occupant or equipment.
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  30. +Mranzious No, original plane.
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  31. +_Hysteria Three were destroyed on the night of the landing. The fourth was kept as a test/evaluation aircraft until is was destroyed in a fatal accident in October 1944.
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  32. + @rogersmith7396 The Lake Mead B-29 is property of the US Park Service and they're not going to let it go. I think they see it as part of a biological preserve.
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  33. +spacemutt1978 A partial Spitfire wreck was exchanged for it. (Actually I think the Spitfire was given to the salvage company, but I would have to look that up.) But Egypt reneged on the deal, so the UK go nothing and the Spifire is gone.
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  34. +@BruceBerry-g4b The aircraft was completed in 2009. There was a new requirement that all planes made after March 2010 should have independent power for the flight recorders. The new speculation is possibly some major electrical failure since comms, transponder, and flight recorders stopped at roughly the same time.
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  35. +@alexanderthegreat5519 The cockpit windows and access door were blown out, so I suspect that the crew were unconscious or dead from the missile.
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  36. +@marksheppard Mark Sheppard? Nice to hear from you Mark. Your initial research and work on the colors for the aircraft was well done and probably correct. The shades are a little off and it's too bad your advice was not followed later. I think you told them RLM76, RLM79, RLM81,and RLM82 and to take their time, which they didn't do.
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  37.  @favoriteblueshirt  The radiator door was at the wrong setting and the guest pilot boiled the coolant. Then he came in too fast and botched the emergency landing. Regardless of the landing accident, Black 6 was scheduled to be permanently retired and parked in a museum. It just did not retire gracefully.
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  38. +donald duck (stilletoe) There has been no formal identification of the pilot Dennis Copping. Some bones were found some distance from the plane, but DNA and forensic analysis of the bones that was done in Cairo does not appear to have been thorough enough to reach any conclusions, or perhaps even enough to identify the age or race of the bones. (A lot of people die in the desert.) Those bones have now disappeared. What is curious is that the pilot's seat harness was cut and others have pointed out that the impact damage on the plane could have injured the pilot's feet and pelvis. It's possible that he died in the cockpit or nearby and was buried by the locals. For now it is still a mystery. The plane was disassembled and placed into a shipping crate and then moved back to civilization to protect it from vandals. There are negotiations to bring the plane to the UK for museum display. There has been little public discussion of the plane and the shipping container may have also gone missing recently.
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  39. I believe the plane is eventually destined for a UK museum where it will displayed in the desert crash scene, as you say. It was removed and put into storage by a team of experts to prevent more damage by the "visitors." There are no published intentions to do any restoration or rebuild for this wreck. Hopefully it will make it out of Egypt in one piece.
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  40. Flying Rubber would make a good band name.......
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  41. + Paul 61 It was being serviced and not flyable.
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  42. Ummm...that desert is huge and hot. Without adequate water a human would only survive a few days. The remoteness is why this plane was undiscovered.
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  43. + Aditya Sharma I believe the German word was Hakenkreuz.
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  44. + Donald Grant The only flight testing that the Horten brothers achieved was unpowered flight with the first prototype glider V1 before it was written off in an accident, and then about two hours of jet powered flight with the second prototype V2 before it was destroyed in a fatal accident. The brothers said it had a good rate of climb but they did not get a lot of data before the crash. The 229 examples had yaw control problems that the Brothers were working to solve. The same yaw issues plagued Northrop's larger flying wing designs well after WW2. Northrop's solution was yaw dampers although the program was terminated before they were fully demonstrated. It shows that yaw control problems are not good for a precision bomber platform. And today it is shown that tailless and flying wing designs are not viable without precise computer flight controls.
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  45. + Ken Downing There is a project to construct one or more flying IAR-80 replicas. It looks like they might still be information gathering and planning/funding.
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  46. +@hellrjeg The ID codes painted by the factory were DG+HO and you see this in the paint layers. There were three layers of paint on it, the factory paint, delivery paint and the final 4./JG54 paint which was camouflage for July 1943 on the Eastern Front. JG had been allocated 12 Fw-190s and white "A" was one of them. There are wartime photos of white "D" and white "K" from the same period. The restoration recreated the 4./JG54 colors but a few things could have been done a little better.
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  47.  @andypandywalters  "Black 6" was never going to fly indefinitely. The original plan was to fly for a season or two and retire her permanently. If I understand correctly, the unfortunately incident was on the retirement flight ironically. Today there is a Bf-109E that is airworthy in the UK and a G or F that is in restoration. And I think another Emil that is still in restoration is owned by a UK collector.
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  48.  @AtheistOrphan  Smithsonian Museum aircraft are not considered airworthy. When they are restored, all systems are tested but they will use correct period components that are not airworthy standard. The engines are pickled with preservative coatings that would have to be removed and cleaned for the engines to run again.
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  49. + marz bite There were only three prototypes and they were all different. There first was a glider and the second only managed two hours of powered flight with jet engines before a fatal crash. The Hortens didn't really get any performance metrics other than stating that it demonstrated a better rate of climb again an Me-262 (it was smaller and lighter.) The 229 program was not a mature design effort, just some experimental prototypes.
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  50. +Bryster51 The Fw-190D has not been started since it was at the Champlin museum. You can sometimes do more harm than good running them on the ground without flying.
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  51. +Mostrichkugel Locals and tourists/visitors began to walk all over it and break things. A special team was sent in to correctly dismantle the plane and it was placed into a shipping container and moved for protection. The plane disappeared after the coup in Egypt and recently emerged as the Frankenstein that it is now.
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  52.  Robinson K  That is the Me-262 at Paul Allen's museum and the former example owned by Howard Hughes. It has been restored to flight but after Allen's death from cancer they had only performed a few taxi tests when Allen's sister closed the museum. The entire collection has been sold to a new owner recently.
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  53. +@Pprokop87 Northrop started work on the YB-35 in 1941 and long before the 229 program. The B2 is the redesign of the original YB-35 concept- same size and same mission role.
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  54. +@stevencoggins170 They don't use the GE engines to go any faster than the original airspeed limits. It does have better response and reserve power. I think the max speed with the GEs could be about 645 mph, but the FAA recommendations were to set the airspeed limit on them to 500 mph based on observations from the WW2 testing notes, such as vibrations or flutter.
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  55. +@garyrendano4717 Paul Allen was the second or third owner of the wreck, and I don't think he paid a huge amount for the unrestored plane. Especially if you consider that in the early 1990s restoring a rare German plane to airworthy would have been considered nearly impossible. What Allen did was put his wealth into accomplishing the impossible to restore it, and I think the total costs for the restoration reached into the eight figures. Before he died, Allen had also put his fortune into returning an original Me-262 and Stuka to flight, and both of those planes are not quite finished and have a new owner.
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  56. +Alexander adriance War graves will probably not be disturbed, and any US Navy aircraft is still US Navy property so historically they have protected their wrecks only with a few exceptions.
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  57. +henryv agincourt Educational displays are allowed for historical reasons. Monetizing it or flying with it could still be interpreted as promoting or endorsing the ideology which is not allowed.
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  58. +racefanwfo The pilot told his acting crew chief that he would not be flying any aerobatics, but just going up to visualize his display box and make a few passes. On the final pass the plane rolled inverted and crashed. So that opens up the possibility of a control failure or even a pilot medical issue.
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  59. +@Donald-d215y Flying wing and tailless aircraft theory was a design exercise in multiple countries in the 1920s and 1930s. Jack Northrop was one of many designers. What needs to be remembered was that Northrop and the Horten brothers were following independent paths in their work.
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  60. @sr71blackbirddr The P-38 now has protected status.
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  61. +@hansvolksjager4974 I have heard a similar story. The Lake Jonsvatnet recoveries are a good example of rare aircraft that may be in those freshwater lakes if there is interest and a will to find them. The Lake Schwerin Fw-190D-9 is another example (only if they had taken care of it when it came out.)
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  62.  @MichaelB-wm5cg  The Fw-190 used a lot of original metal. The tailplane is new, along with some lower skins. A wing spar cap was replaced and a few areas with crush damage, and leading edges. JME in the UK also corrected areas that did not meet the original factory specifications. A lot of new interior items were made to be period correct and they located six core engines for parts to build a working one. The broken canopy was replaced with an NOS WW2 original found in a lake.
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  63.  @ronaldcox8551  Ironically, it was stock parts that were too old to be used and should have been replaced. The FAA issued a new requirement for all operators to replace those parts with brand-new ones.
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  64. + coastal The Horten wing was not built to avoid radar. Flying wings had been a theory for over 20 years for low drag, fuel efficiency and speed. The late war flying wings in the US and Germany were just the latest iteration of those ideas.
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  65. In the NTSB report, RARA states that after consulting with both NASA and USAF research, they concluded that G-suits would have made absolutely no difference in this high G accident and RARA will not require them. They were to implement G awareness training for the racing pilots.
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  66. +@flyingdutchman28 This one is one of several new-build Me-262s with GE turbines. There is one original that has been restored to fly with rebuilt Jumo turbines, but testing is not complete at this time.
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  67. +SouthParkCows88 The first jet aircraft to take flight was the Heinkel 178 in 1939.
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  68. +@badllama8090 It is owned by the Messerschmitt Museum in Germany.
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  69. The Accident Brief, pages 36-37 says that the safety recommendations were implemented, including altering the race course.
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  70.  @Joebobinator  I think they pulled the J85s from the first example because they needed correct engine logbooks to meet airworthiness requirements, and the old military J85s didn't have good logbooks.
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  71. + Don Lawrence It wasn't Boeing, it was Convair. Sec. of the Air Force Stuart Symington pressured Northrop to merge with Convair and when Northrop would not merge, Symington shanked them and killed the YB-49. The last aircraft were scrapped at the plant in front of the employees. Symington took a comfy job at Convair and the Air Force was stuck with the B-36..
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  72. + Mickey Johnson That's easy. Japanese Army research and the Tokyo Engineering College began working on paint additives with radar-reflective properties in 1943, before the Horten brothers began their work. This was to reduce radar detection of Japanese Navy aircraft. Most of their testing notes were destroyed but the basic tests were metal compounds blended into aircraft paints. IMO, the Japanese should be given credit for "stealth."
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  73. + davidca96 By 1947 the newly formed US Air Force had changed fighter naming from "P" to "F", thus Mustangs became the F-51.
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  74. + John Gilbert No charcoal was found on the V3 aircraft at the museum. Just the glues, decayed wood and fireproof paint. Perhaps that was rewriting history or wishful thinking in the Horten memoirs. Good that your bring up ferrous oxides. Starting in 1943 Japanese Army researchers at the Tokyo Engineering College were testing various metallic compounds and rubber coatings and aircraft paint for radar absorption and disruption. This was to be tried on Japanese Navy aircraft to reduce long-range radar signatures. US Navy Intelligence looked into this although much of the research material and notes had been destroyed.
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  75. +@designatedtruth1205 The Navy crewman did survive, because his jacket got stuck on a guide vane inside the engine and stopped him. However, there are several documented deaths at civilian airports, and unpleasant photos are in the public domain. But the photos should be mandatory viewing for anyone wanting to work on an airport ramp.
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  76. +@Jessie_James850 The Allies banned the swastika in Germany in 1945 when they banned the party. It can only be shown under certain conditions, but not on flying aircraft in Germany where this new-build Me-262 is registered.
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  77. +@rickvoit7310 With ideal manufacturing and proper materials, the TBOs could be over 100 hours. The wartime production units could last only a few hours. Paul Allen's museum has restored their original Me-262 with remanufactured Jumo 004s and the TBOs on the new Jumo 004s is estimated to be 300 hours, but they have not flown them yet.
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  78. +Alex They flew the smaller glider. And flew the next model with jet engines for about two hours before it crashed and was destroyed. That's the extent of the 229 project. The larger model that survives in shambles today never flew.
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  79.  @KB-xq6yv  I re-read the accident report and the radiator selector switch was also tricky. It was easy to set it a few degrees off and not have proper cooling settings. The switch should have been replaced with an NOS unit if they had known about the problem earlier.
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  80. + War Planner The company was reorganized from Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG to Messerschmitt AG in 1939. All new designs were to use the ME prefix. The Bf-109 was an older design, but even Luftwaffe documents used both BF and ME for the aircraft interchangeably.
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  81. julosx One possible explanation is destructive explosives that were carried on some WW2 aircraft to destroy sensitive equipment, or perhaps a fragmentation grenade used by the pilot to destroy equipment before it could be captured by German forces.
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  82. Yes, cleaning and conservation is being done at RAF Museum, Cosford. A lot of the initial effort will be chemical treatments to remove salt from the metal before corrosion accelerates. Then further cleaning of each part. http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/leebee0/Dornier%2017/file-26.jpg
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  83. You can find cargo versions of 747s at any major airport worldwide that are moving heavy loads for DHL, UPS, FedEx and other freight carriers day and night. Civilian airlift contractors fly military and government cargo all of the time. This isn't a new concept.
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  84. It has also been discussed that judging from the impact damage, the pilot could have suffered broken ankles, leg or back injuries and died in the cockpit or nearby. Bedouins or locals could have buried him. Bones were found nearby but they were never formally identified and lots of people die in the desert for many reasons.
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  85. +David Mcque Not at this time. That was the plan but the military coup in Egypt changed everything. Too much chaos to know what's happening with it right now and it could end up being a casualty of the unrest over there. Only rumors that the shipping crate made it out, so fingers crossed.
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  86. Yes, and some remains were found but have still not been formally identified in Egypt. It's not clear if they have actually found the pilot. Kinda sad that the RAF and the MOD have not expedited the identification process.
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  87. nunya biznez Both the plant ID and the name of the pilot were known very quickly. It was a ferry flight for repairs and the pilot broke away from the group and ignored signals to turn around, and it is not known why. The plane is presently missing after the unrest in Egypt and the search and investigation for the remains of the pilot was also fouled up.
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  88.  @freyapoynton1134  The account I have read was that it was a maintenance flight. Pilot Copping and his wingman encountered light flak and were separated. When they rejoined, Copping refused radio and hand signals to resume the correct heading and was not seen again. The abysmal patch job on the aircraft done by the Egyptians has probably all but erased any chance for a forensic examination to determine the cause. And I am sorry for the pitiful job by the MoD and Egyptian officials with locating or identifying the remains of your great great uncle.
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  89. +Wanda Pulliam That is the current plan, if all goes well.
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  90. Adrian Larkins New Zealand has also restored a number of Kittyhawks to airworthy condition, so restoration expertise is not limited to the US. In fact, Meier Motors in Germany is now doing some of the best restoration work that I have ever seen on a number of Allied and Axis aircraft. Very impressive resto work is now done in Germany, Austria, Australia, New Zealand, UK, and even Russia. (Russia has restored a few Mig-3s, Japanese Zeros, as well as building that shiny new IL-2 for the Flying Heritage Collection.)
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  91. Samstrat94 No aircraft or wreck should be left in the open as a memorial anymore period. It's not realistic and there is no respect for them. They need to be under protection or inside. Over the years many museums have taken perfectly good aircraft and parked them outside for decades to rot with moisture and bird poop. Then there's an outcry when the plane is deemed unrestorable and scrapped. Unprotected wrecks are vandalized and hacked apart for scrap metal when nobody is looking all over the world. Just read about the huge scrapping of WW2 planes on Morotai just a few decades ago. Anything that is left needs to be moved into protection now. I can't stand the cry babies that want to leave planes to rot in the Pacific jungles. They are rotting away and won't last much longer. Outside displays can be done with fiberglass replicas, since this has already been done with a number of  aircraft. It makes no sense to park a million dollar aircraft out in the weather when a $150K fiberglass replica will last longer. (Pointing a finger a McGuire AFB and their rotting P-38 that used to be airworthy.)
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  92. +Adrian Larkins New info that the Egyptian AF Museum decided to do their own restoration. See the travesty that resulted here: https://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=257969&stc=1&d=1514499790
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  93. +planthi80 Bones were found nearby but were not given a through examination and have since gone missing (along with the storage container holding plane apparently) in the chaos of the military overthrow of the Egyptian government. Keeping in mind that hundreds of wandering souls have perished in that desert so those bones could have been anybody. There are currently only rumors regarding the fate of the plane and no movement on the pilot who could have been buried by locals or walked for several kilometers in any direction.
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  94. + Sempronio Densso The "Amerika Bomber" was only a design idea on paper and was not constructed. Meanwhile, Northrop got his funding contract in 1941 and was well ahead designing his flying wing bomber.
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  95. +David Dorado It is a new Flugwerk replica aircraft combined with bits of wreckage from Fw-190A-8 W.Nr. 682060 "Rote 5" JG3 that was shot down on 17-Dec-1944 by P-47s over Cologne. The wreckage was unearthed during construction. The pilot Leutnant Rolf Lahne is MIA.
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  96. +@chalkster4723 No, when Doug Arnold had the plane in his shop in the UK it had been washed and photographed to document the paint. The restored paint is the original JG54 colors, though some historians disagree with the EXACT shades that were chosen for the restoration verses slightly darker shades.
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  97. + Roman de Ceasar Juan Browne's channel covers the same correct points, along with the some of the formation basics and flying restrictions these pilots were operating under. Browne is a commercial pilot and covers a lot of aviation accidents. Basically A) the P-63 pilot should have called a no-go because he couldn't see and pulled away, B) the P-63 didn't have the altitude to make evasive maneuvers, and C) the inertia of the P-63 pushed it into the B-17 passing on an inside turn of another aircraft, which the pilot should not have been doing at the same altitude. The planes were all trying to squeeze into the flying box at the same altitude, which also did not make sense to Browne.
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  98. +@fw1421 The museum should duplicate the wooden components and construct the example to the unfinished condition as found in Germany. It's rotted because of poor storage when donated to the museum.
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  99.  @jaakkooksa5374  In a remarkable coincidence, the late billionaire and philanthropist Paul Allen's museum did restore their original Me-262 to airworthy specification with Jumo 004 turbines that were reworked by professionals in California. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPazuFQZE3o Allen's insistence for secrecy means that there are no published technical details on the engine rebuilds. (Although a rumor of different fuel pumps.) Allen's death and other delays have prevented more testing of the Me-262 rebuild, if it ever flies at all. No additional work is ongoing at this time.
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  100. +@cgrscott Only two hours of test flying was completed on the smaller V2 prototype before the fatal crash. That was all of the powered flight the 229 program achieved. During interrogations, the Horten brothers only mentioned that the V2 showed a better rate of climb compared to the Me-262.
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  101. +Kim Young Jin That plane was under the same FAA regulations as any other aircraft. It has logs books and paperwork that is supposed to be complete, including all maintenance records.
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  102.  @CLK944  The museum collection now has new owner. Paul Allen had provided funding for the museum from his estate, but his heir made changes.
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  103. +@louisevad6091 Fundamentally, it's a machine just like the Auto Union race cars that were restored. As a machine, it is a thoroughbred just like the other piston aircraft of that time. They represent the peak of mechanical airplanes before they were snuffed out by new jets. Preserved examples of these aircraft wear the Communist star, the Japanese rising sun and now the WW2 German markings. Each one tells a story.
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  104. +@infolover_68 It's doubtful that Germany could supply the BMW engines to Japan. The Japanese struggled with quality for their license-built DB-601 engines (Ha-40) and they probably did not have the capacity to start production of BMW 801 radials. They would have needed to adapt a Japanese radial without affecting supply needs for other aircraft.
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  105. +@slavabtomat It is painted exactly as it looked for 4./JG54 with summer camo for 1943, Eastern Front. It is thought to be part of 12 Fw-190s received by JG54, probably "A" through "L", so it is White A. There are photos of White K and White D in similar camouflage. Traces of the camouflage were on it after it was cleaned.
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  106. +@MS-bh3uw The pilot put the plane in grove of small saplings. Things grow slowly in Northern Russia. The plane was restored to original condition, with replaced items manufactured as original.
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  107. +@bear1245 The late Jim Pearce now.
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  108.  @madmanmechanic8847  The 229 was never designed for stealth and only used wood because of materials shortages. The common design theories for tailless aircraft were low-drag, speed, and fuel efficiency -- not stealth.
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  109.  @michaelhuye  The Arnold brothers started restoration on the plane in the UK before Paul Allen bought it. I think the brothers were planning to use new skin on the airframe, but when Allen bought it he wanted to use as much of the original plane as possible. I don't know if the Arnolds had stripped the paint by then. The paint had been researched, with spectral photography to recreate new color swatches. But when the final restoration painted it, it's unclear if that research was followed. Serious researches say that they got the colors shades just a little off, but good enough. The plane would have also made a nice display as-is, but that's a choice for the owner. Before Allen lost his battle with cancer his museum had also bought the G4M Betty display from Planes of Fame, probably to start a flyable Betty project. I don't know if the new museum owners will put that level of money into new restorations.
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  110.  @fightersweep  Paul Allen's museum actually owns two CASA 2.111 airframes. The restored fuselage can be seen in background of their Me-262 reveal video. It has no wings and is just a big elephant in the room since the museum did not officially announce any 2.111 projects. Someone asked about it during the Q/A and the reply was kind of "there it is, next question."
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  111. +jordan ridgeway Age would not have made any difference. Loss of control at those speeds and with the G-loads, the pilot was an unconscious rag doll until impact.
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  112. + Ryan James There is a Fiat G.55 project to fly, but it is private with little info. There is also a Fiat G.59 that is airworthy. There is a Macchi MC 205V in Italy that is airworthy but it is not being flown.
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  113. + Leon Thompson Tailless and flying wing aircraft theory dating back to the 1920s was about low drag and fuel efficiency -- not about stealth. The Horten brothers offered Goering a wing design that was fast and fuel efficient and absolutely nothing about avoiding radar.
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  114. @thespeeddemon7832 After WW2 Czechoslovakia had undamaged factories for both the Me-262 and the Bf-109. The manufactured the Bf-109 as the Avia S-199 and successfully sold them as an export product. They tried to do the same with the Me-262 as the Avia S-92 but only managed about twelve examples and sold three to Egypt. The Czechs were trying to restart their economy and by 1949 the Me-262 factory was retooled for a contract to build a newer aircraft. Really the Me-262 was already obsolete by 1946-1947, although the Czechs flew their S-92 examples into the early 1950s.
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  115. +@deniskozlowski9370 Two Martin Mars survive, Hawaii Mars and Philippine Mars.
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  116. +@toby5904 There is a flyable Bf-109E at Biggin Hill, although not flying much. It was an original Battle of Britain aircraft and was briefly flown by Hans-Joachim Marseille before he crashed it.
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  117.  @busterbentley2588  The race team was very lazy with their paperwork. Although, the age of the pilot or reaction time didn't matter in the accident sequence. It was catastrophic regardless of pilot age or fitness level.
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  118. + Quetzalcoatl the Feathered Serpent The model built for the TV show was just a plywood and fiberglass shape constructed for a radar study. It is not a 1:1 Horten 229, just a shape. The Horten brothers promised nothing about radar avoidance. They were following the design theories for flying wings going back to the 1920s-- that wings were fast and fuel efficient. That is all.
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  119. +@ROBIN_SAGE The paint in the forest was heavily oxidized from UV light, and the camouflage emerged when it was cleaned. The plane is painted in the 4./JG 54 Summer colors that were on it when it went down. These colors are found in a few photos of other Fw-190s from the same group, one of twelve Fw-190s that were allocated to JG54 around that time.
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  120. +FOKK3RM4M The RLM naming system was very standardized for both military and civilian aircraft. The number was assigned by the RLM. Aircraft were prefixed by manufacturer, Me for Messerschmitt, Fw for Focke Wulf, Do for Dornier, He for Heinkel and so forth. Major changes were given a letter suffix, A, B, C,, etc while minor changes were given an additional numerical suffix. Prototypes were assigned a V designation for experimental.
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  121. +@sixtwentyeight8260 The paint is correct from when the plane was cleaned and examined and based on the JG54 colors in 1943. But researchers think that the paint color codes that were used are not quite correct and it's a bit too shiny. The RLM was rewriting the paint codes in 1943, which confuses things further.
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  122. +@grahamthebaronhesketh One example is being rebuilt to fly, though that was a very difficult task without all of the correct engineering data for the work. Hopefully it will be finished, but I think it will remain to fly at the home museum and not flying at airshows.
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  123. +@johnjames8594 Soviet-era camera equipment in 1989.
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  124.  @andrewwaller5913  The same workshop in Russia was building another IL-2, but I don't know where it will go. There is an IL-10 project in France but I don't know the status.
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  125. + Mike The Weaver They couldn't fly it because it was having maintenance.
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  126. +Kill Hacker A replica was not made. They didn't duplicate the aircraft. All that was made was a mock-up shaped like the Ho-229 used for radar study. It was a good effort, but Nat GEO really stretched the truth on actual events.
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  127. +@steamon2 This is a new-build Me-262 with GE turbines.
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  128.  @5co756  Luftwaffe mechanics could change a Jumo 004 engine in about 15 minutes. It really was designed as a throwaway engine according to the restoration at Paul Allen's museum. Field mechanics were not going to swap internals and I doubt that at the late stage of the war there was an organized overhaul system for the jet engines like what was used for the piston engines.
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  129. +@darrenlee9237 The surrender documents signed by Germany included forfeit of weapons and means of production to the Allies. So at the time, no.
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  130. +@miketan8190 Five new Me-262s were built for customers, with four of those flyable with GE engines.
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  131. +The Mechanist It is a new-build replica using some original parts and some changes to bring it to wartime configuration.
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  132.  @roybrowning2685  The 229 program didn't achieve much more than a design study of flying wings, though the brothers should receive due credit for their ideas. The first V1 prototype was a glider that flew during 1944 until it was destroyed in an accident. The second V2 prototype was the first with powered flight and jet engines, and a very good achievement. It only flew for about two total hours of testing in February 1945 before a fatal accident. For all purposes, that was the end of the 229 effort. Gotha was building the V3 and three other prototypes when their factory was captured. None of the later aircraft were finished or flew.
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  133. +@skysamurai4649 Paul Allen's museum has just bought a G4M wreck before the museum was closed. No doubt the museum would have started a project with it, maybe flying. Mr. Harada in Japan is building a beautiful G4M for his museum.
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  134. +@dmfinpa Collings Foundation has retired "Witchcraft" for now, and the CAF operate "Diamond Lil." There is another example under restoration to fly in the US, not named that I know of. I think the multi-engines are going to fly less and less with rising costs and the eventual retirement of 100LL fuel.
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  135. +@LukeFeekings The story would not be known without the aircraft being found and removed. In the 1990s in the Russians cared very little for these old relics and many wrecks were exported. Many of them are still waiting to be restored.
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  136. +@douglascox9996 The pilot was taken POW by Russian soldiers. It's likely that the Russians visited the plane and then left it. The upper guns were missing and could have been taken after the pilot was captured. The master compass was also missing, and these were useful items in the field. The Germans had a system to mark downed aircraft for recovery and this one was marked but it was in Russian held territory. The last mission was very close to the Russian lines, just a 15-minute flight.
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  137. + fin screenname You're assuming that there would have been any hydraulic pressure to operate the landing gear and there may have not been any.
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  138.  @finscreenname  The landing gear operates hydraulically, not electrically. And the hydraulic pump is mounted on the engine. No engine, no hydraulics or perhaps maybe some residual pressure. But opening the gear doors could also flood the wings and lose the pilot some extra time needed to unbuckle and exit the cockpit. (If you remember the P-47 that ditched in the Hudson River and the pilot could not escape the cockpit.)
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  139. + Nate Ferguson He passed away December 27, 2018.
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  140. +@SpreadEagled It is listed as an active restoration to flying condition at Planes of Fame. But I've not seen an updated photo of any progress.
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  141. +@UncleBubba13 The 2.111 was not damaged in a crash, it was destroyed in a crash with the loss of the two crewmen. Post-crash fire and not much left of it.
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  142. +@michaelwhisman Well, technically in 1946 the US Navy did bulldoze two captured Arado 234s into the water as landfill at NAS Pax River. Their remains were visible in the water until about the 1980s.
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  143. + ian lazenby My opinion is the war would have lasted a year longer while the Allies brought their jets into production. And WW2 would have ended like the Korean war with a mix of jet and piston aircraft.
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  144.  @Jamminout2465  Pre-flight checks are routine, as well as regular maintenance. Older videos made from the cockpit show that he was a very good pilot. Some people who were there are saying this was not aerobatics, so something else was going on.
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  145. +@Tyler-of4lt The airworthy project at Paul Allen's museum had obtained partial remains of some sirens but said they were still missing some information to build them correctly. There might be more bits in private hands, but it's remarkable how difficult the search can be. Somebody on YouTube commented that they had a siren from crash wreckage gifted to them, but take that with a grain of salt.
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  146. +@robinsonstudios If you remember the Fw-190F-8 "White 1" project in Florida, it was bought by the Collings Foundation to complete, and it just rolled out for testing a few months ago. It also has a BMW 801 and will fly after testing. (Collings Foundation also has the wreckage of a Fw-190D-9 with some Flugwerk parts, but I don't think they are doing any work on it right now.)
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  147. +@bobjohnston8316 Yes it was known for years that the AAF accidentally switched the wings on the Fw-190D-9 at the USAF Museum and the Fw-190D-13 at the Champlin Museum. Doug Champlin decided to restore the D-13 for second time before selling it and during the restoration arrangements were made to switch the wings back from USAF Museum. Both aircraft have their correct wings now.
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  148. +@p123bore Collector Doug Arnold imported it to the UK and began restoring it in the 1990s. Paul Allen then purchased the project from Arnold and I think he didn't really pay that much for it at the time. But Allen then spent somewhere close to $10 million having the plane restored to perfect condition.
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  149. +@ronaldworth4146 No Ju-90 aircraft survive today except for a submerged wreck.
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  150. +@neilbain8736 Pilot Ratz died the same year that the plane was filmed in the forest. I doubt he even knew about it, but his son knows and worked with the researchers on his history.
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  151. +@juliusmartov5022 It is painted in the 4./JG54 colors that were on it when it went down in the summer 1943. This is documented by photos of other Fw-190s from the same group, such as "White K" and "White D." There are also photos of the wreck when it was cleaned and the summer camouflage is there. Although serious historians have argued that the new color tones are just a little off from what they should be.
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  152. @garethbarry3825 The DB series supercharger used a fluid-drive coupling that is quite compact. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irOc9gloabo The two-stage arrangement and also larger diameter impeller wheels did create size issues with changes to the engine mount or cowling.
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  153. +@Knuck_Knucks Yes, there was a photo-recon version. One example survives, but modified back into a fighter version. I think the Smithsonian museum has the camera and original parts.
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  154. +@scottsanddebranelson8419 Warbird collector Jim Pearce had the contacts to export it from Russia. Pearce got a lot of Luftwaffe aircraft from there in the early 1990s, I think at least 40 aircraft. Those are scattered around waiting for restorations, mostly BF-109s. Doug Arnold in the UK was the next owner of the Fw-190, so I think he bought it from Pearce. Arnold started a restoration on it, but then sold it to Allen.
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  155.  @scottanddebranelson8419  Pearce exported three Bf-110s from Russia. If you look at the new example in the Technical Museum Berlin, that one was built using two of the three Bf-110s that Pearce recovered. The third one is in storage and is said to be reasonably complete. And the new Stuka restoration at Paul Allen's museum was also possible with the remains of two Stukas that Pearce recovered if I recall correctly.
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  156.  @HE-162  The Jumos on the FHCAM example were extensively remanufactured, but the specific details on that were never made public because of FHCAM policy. Hopefully more details will be known later if the engine shop is allowed to speak about it.
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  157. + chairman dan Destroyed, burnt but some sections intact.
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  158. +Liam White No, he lost engine power.
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  159. +@jaya9879 Flying wing research experiments and designs were happening in the 1920s in multiple countries such as Russia, the US, Germany and Britain. It was a known design theory of that era.
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  160.  @michaelshore2300  Testing and assembly was done at Classic Fighter Industries in Washington State before customer delivery. The Messerschmitt Museum in Germany purchased one of the examples and it remains part of their flying aircraft collection.
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  161.  @michaelshore2300  Aircraft #2, named Tango Tango, was test flown in August 2005 and shipped to the Messerschmitt Museum in Germany in October 2005.
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  162.  @michaelshore2300  Aircraft #2 was flight certified in North America before it was packed and shipped to Germany. In Germany, it would receive a new German aircraft registration and be subject to their own certification standards. Four of the aircraft are airworthy and three remain in the US to my knowledge. The Collings Foundation has the two-seater, another example is at the military museum in Virginia Beach, I cannot remember where the other flying example is, and the final static example was with the Evergreen Museum. I believe that there was a #6 aircraft, but this was extra parts and a test assembly jig that also went to Germany to combine with wreckage at the Luftwaffe Museum.
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  163. +@siggishwiggish Allen's sister was his only heir and she went against his wishes and stopped funding the museum. A new billionaire investor has bought the museum now.
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  164. +DK-gy7ll That restoration had struggled with a leaky oil cooler since it was finished. I'm surprised that they didn't locate another oil cooler unit or make a new one.
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  165. +@davidvaughn7752 Unrestored aircraft were not really worth that much in 1990s, especially a rare type with few resources to resurrect it. Wrecks today still don't command the price of restored examples. The money is in the work to restore it.
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  166. +@mudassirkhan The B2 is based on Jack Northrop's YB-35 that he started in 1941. Years before the Horten brothers.
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  167.  @DuffusMonkey  Yes just three. Two in the Czech Republic and one in Israel.
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  168. +@cabaiste The plane was restored in the UK and final work was completed in Arizona. After test flights and paint, it was sent to Seattle by truck.
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  169. +Ed M You are looking at stock figures. Race P-51s are stripped down and lighter and have beefed up engines for more performance. On-board instruments had Galloping Ghost going at about 520-525 mph just before the accident. Another race plane Voodoo just set a new piston aircraft record of 531 mph.
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  170.  @tomservo5007  AT-6/SNJ painted in German markings. From the Condor Squadron display team.
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  171. @huck69 I think one F4U was lifted out of the salt in Australia, but the fresh oxygen started rapid corrosion. Anything out of saltwater needs special treatments to preserve it.
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  172. +@hemutzollner5496 The example in the Smithsonian is the V3 third prototype which never flew. When Patton's forces captured the Gotha workshop with the partially complete V3, there were also the frames for V4-V6. It's my assumption that they were destroyed in place. There were no production examples made.
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  173. + delta lion The B2 is a redesign of the YB-35 and YB-49. They are the same size and fly the exact same mission.
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  174. + @bobojerry The law allows for education displays and other discussion circumstances, so there are some gray areas. Monetizing it or active display is not allowed.
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  175. +@mickshawforty I doubt it because there would be no need for pressurization or to fly at that altitude today. There are a few WW2 fighters that still have functional O2 systems, but it's not needed for planes that fly for recreation or historical preservation. Except for aggressive display flights, these planes are flown gently to reduce wear and tear.
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  176. +Dana Delouisa Yes, but the bare minimum inspection with the bare minimum of flight testing to have restricted flight authorization to go racing.
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  177. +@HeinrichErnst1 Two replica Fw-190s and several Bf-109s fly in Germany today, but they are not allowed to display a full swastika by law. The law was adjusted so that museums can use it in exhibits though.
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  178. +@michaelpetterson4919 The original RLM engine specification from the 1920s was for inverted engines with a provision for the central-fire cannon installation. Maintenance was also considered as well a pilot visibility.
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  179. +@Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT Northrop didn't build one as original. They built a wooden mock-up shape for a radar study.
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  180. +J.A. The Chino Fw-190 is one of the Flugwerk replicas, although when Rudy Frasca was having it built they decided to use an R-2800 for the engine choice.. The slightly larger cowling improved the lines of the aircraft over the Flugwerk cowling design.
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  181. + Charles Groves It didn't fly. It was the third prototype in the program and was incomplete when it was captured. The first prototype was an unpowered glider. The second prototype was smaller and did fly with jet engines. It showed a good rate of climb, but it only accumulated two hours of flight time before a fatal crash and before any good metrics were gathered. The 229 program was not very mature before the war ended.
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  182. +@johngalt6929 It was very new, manufactured in March 1943, allocated to the Luftwafe in April 1943 and lost in July 1943. Three layers of paint were found on the plane, the factory paint with the DG+HO codes, then it was repainted for delivery and last assigned to 4./JG54 and repainted in their summer colors. It is thought to be part of the early Fw-190s delivered to JG54 when they began to transition to them.
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  183. +@yourmanufacturingguri001 The Horten 18 was never constructed and it was just an idea on paper. Only the 229 V prototypes were completed with very little flight testing. The Smithsonian has the never-flown V3 prototype.
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  184. + SteelBrigage It was restored in the mid-1990s and won Best of Show at Oshkosh in 1998, and then Tom Cruise bought it sometime around 2000-2001.
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  185. +@galier2 And the He-274 was used until the 1950s before it was scrapped. Also the French used Jumo 213 engines in the Nord maritime patrol aircraft until the 1960s.
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  186. +@jerrydonquixote5927 Microsoft is in Seattle and Paul Allen was the only billionaire collector willing to put the amount of money to restore it and fly it. He put about $10 million into the Fw-190. Allen also put his money into restoring an original Me-262 to flying condition and the only Stuka to fly since WW2. In any case, Allen passed away and his collection is now owned by the Walmart family.
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  187.  @MavNGoosebubba  He has owned and flies that vintage Mustang for quite a while now.
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  188. +Jacob Terry The mock up was not the same construction. Factor in the original tube frames and the welded steel engine fairings on the original.
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  189. +Trickycarrot102 Except for some in private ownership, all US Navy aircraft are still considered US Navy property by them regardless of their location. Those fall under Maritime Law.
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  190. + John Willis The 229 was not in a secret warehouse. The government was done with it by 1947 and the Foreign Equipment aircraft that were to be kept were taken to Orchard Field, Chicago and stuck in a hangar. By 1950 many of those aircraft and the 229 had been donated to the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian kept the 229 in a wooden container in poor storage conditions (including outside) until the 1970s until it was finally moved into inside storage. This is why it is such rotten mess of dry rot and fungus today.
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  191. +CzarBloodmir There are Lend-Lease aircraft wrecks as well as Soviet aircraft and German aircraft, mostly underwater or remote locations. Stalin wanted to rebuild the Russian military and he gave orders to scrap and collect raw materials in Russian territory, so much of it was cleaned up as well as scrapping captured aircraft.
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  192. +@farmertoad75 Paul Allen's sister did not follow his last wishes to keep the museum open using his investment money. She closed it and now it has been sold to one of the Walmart heirs.
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  193.  @CanTunaGuitar  It is time-lapse photography of the stars moving with the rotation of the Earth. I see one meteor and a few airplanes or satellites.
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  194. + Seab K. Paul The Hortens had planned to use the BMW 003 turbine but it was not ready. They never designed the 229 to have stealth or to be a fighter. It was a medium bomber that was proposed to Goering as fast. The design theories for tailless aircraft and flying wings in the 1920s and 1930s were low drag and speed and fuel efficiency, nothing about stealth or avoiding radar. The Horten brothers promised Goering a fast bomber. The project was not mature and had not yielded a final design, even though the last rapid prototype V3 was being designed at Gotha as a "pre-production" model. The smaller prototype was the only version to fly with jet power and it only logged about two hours before a fatal crash.
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  195.  @louislamboley9167  You're looking at three layers of paint. It had standard RLM colors from the factory, then it was painted again when it was issued to the Luftwaffe, then when JG54 got it they painted it with their summer camouflage. All of that paint has oxidized and faded. There are genuine photos of the plane when it was washed and the forest camouflage pattern is there. It is hard to provide links to copyrighted photos because YouTube will remove the comment, but a few modeling websites have the photos. Plus during the research for the plane, very nice artist renderings of the plane for each paint layer were made.
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  196.  @andrewwaller5913  I read elsewhere that flying at the museum will not resume until summer 2024. So they have a year to maybe get the Stuka finished too. There may still be a long-term plan to relocate the museum in the future, too.
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  197. +@vincenthawke3049 It is a reproduction, but Flugwerk had nothing to do with it these new Me-262s. The Me-262s were constructed by Classic Fighter Industries (now Legend Flyers) in a partnership with Herb Tischler at the Texas Airplane Factory. Only five were constructed, per their business plan.
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  198.  @vincenthawke3049  Yes, the CFI project began with a contract to restore Wk.Nr. 110639 for the National Naval Aviation Museum and copy the parts to make new examples.
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  199. +@neighborhoodturnt Bayerische Flugzeugwerke was first and the naming standards used by the RLM included the manufacturer. When Bayerische Flugzeugwerke was reformed into Messerschmitt AG the RLM adopted the ME for newer aircraft. But both prefixes were used during all of WW2.
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  200. +@clarkbutler Work on the YB-35 started in 1941 when Northrop got the contract.
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  201. +@Workerbee-zy5nx Not flyable - made from new build and recovered parts from wrecks.
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  202. + TheEnchiladaKid Northrop was awarded the government contract to start building his big YB-35 bomber in 1941, long before they Horten brothers started the 229 work. The B2 is based on the original YB mission and design.
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  203. +@markjames6669 Paul Allen's museum was also building a flyable Stuka and a Fw-189 and both were salvaged from the Russian forests many years ago.
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  204. +Frizzlefry No. I believe the engine used in the build was an educational display and not flight certified.
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  205.  @dickbutt7559  The DNA tests on "bones" that were found were inconclusive, though some question how hard they tried in Cairo. The search for remains, DNA tests and negotiations for the plane all went silent when el-Sisi's forces took over the Egyptian government.
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  206.  @justindyches5510  I'm liking the YT comment that some fighter jock will have to paint a pretty balloon on his airplane for the kill. They'll have a new callsign- "Party Pooper."
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  207. + Alan Freestone The first patent for an axial flow turbine aircraft was filed in France in 1921 by Maxime Guillaume. Guillaume had the concept but didn't know how to built it or make it work.
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  208. + Kalyn Stalinski Stealth was not part of the 1920s flying wing theories that Northrop and the Hortens based their ideas on. Wings were considered fast and fuel efficient.
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  209. + @Bill White One P-38 was recovered years ago and restored to flying. There are one or two groups planning to recover the rest, but the updates I saw were bad weather and equipment problems. It will not be an easy task and not cheap.
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  210. +@Spikeydelic Whip antenna for FuG 16ZY radio systems.
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  211.  @charlesburgoyne-probyn6044  It's worth noting that the Arsenal de l'Aéronautique kept Jumo 213 engines in operation for Nord seaplanes until the late 1950s or early 1960s. That might make the Jumo 213 the longest serving WW2 German piston engine in operation.
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  212. +@Hagmire The Collings Foundation Fw-190F-8 rolled out in the spring, but I don't think they have test flown it yet.
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  213. +@davidh2608 Two are in restoration to flying condition now, a Ju-87R and a Ju-87D. Rebuild of any Stuka was always difficult due to lack of available project wrecks and missing engineering data.
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  214. +@arimusgarcia-cuellar8026 The B-17E was not complete and was one of the planes that Allen's sister was selling. I'm not sure that it found a buyer. She went against his final wishes and did not fund the museum and closed it. The entire museum and collection has new owners now.
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  215. +@VaderisOne Mr. Edwards didn't loan his Buchons for the Battle of Britain movie. He was one of the lead pilots for the film and the producers could not pay him. So he asked for some of the Spanish Buchons as payment instead, and gradually traded them out over the years until he sold the rest in one lot.
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  216. +@georgettewolf6743 The new-build examples are using GE CJ610 turbines, not the military J85s. Five were built, four flyable and one static example. Leftover parts went to Germany for a static rebuild. Yes you could consider them a second-generation Me-262, although the FAA opinion in the airworthiness certificate was that they just recreated the wartime Me-262 as a still unproven airframe with unresolved flaws. There is an original Me-262 restoration that is to be airworthy, funded by billionaire Paul Allen. The aircraft is carefully restored and the Jumo turbines have been rebuilt to be better. New owners have taken over Paul Allen's collection after his death, so the restored Me-262 may be finished in the future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPazuFQZE3o (Allen's museum was also building a flyable Stuka.)
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  217.  @jvargas454  Reimar Horten immigrated to Argentina (after being denied asylum elsewhere) while his brother Walter remained in Germany and served in the German Air Force. Reimar continued aircraft research and design, but not exactly a continuation of the 229 program. The YB-35 and YB-49 suffered yaw instability problems, complicating their success as a precision bombing platform, as well as poor range and fuel economy. Northrop was testing yaw dampers to solve the instability. Meanwhile, the new Secretary of the Air Force Stuart Symington had began to pressure Northrop to merge with Convair Aircraft, and Jack Northrop refused to do that. Perhaps it was retribution, but Symington killed the YB-49 program and had all examples scrapped along with the original drawings. The last examples were scrapped in view of Northrop employees. Symington retired to a nice job at Convair and the Air Force was stuck with the B-36.
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  218. +@Workerbee-zy5nx Paul Allen's museum is building a Stuka from two wrecks found in Russia. This was an incredibly difficult task but Allen's museum has done it, although it's not finished.
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  219.  @Workerbee-zy5nx  It is a flying restoration. The engine and prop are tested and ready. They were working on final assembly, electrics, avionics and plumbing when Paul Allen died and his sister closed the museum. Stay tuned after the new owners get the museum up and running again. The newest photo I have seen has the engine bearers in place like they were about to hang the engine. Hopefully work will continue.
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  220. +@takeyoshix The V1 glider flew until it was destroyed in a landing accident. The V2 only flew for a couple of hours before it was destroyed in a fatal accident in February 1945. That is all of the flying that was accomplished by 229 program. The surviving V3 prototype is not even complete and it never flew at all. Why nothing in the 50s or 60s? Speed. I don't think any wing is capable of supersonic flight due to stability issues.
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  221. + SuperFeist This Bf-109 moved around as a war bonds display and ended up in storage in Canada for many years with parts disappearing. They are slowly getting it back together, but others have said there are mistakes in the new paint.
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  222. +@paulmarkham2197 At some future time, there should be a more exhaustive search for buried equipment, if permission from the property owners can be obtained. I think a few organized digs will find some rare treasures.
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  223.  @wilburfinnigan2142  Not counting the V1 glider that flew. The second prototype V2 flew under jet power, but only for about two hours total testing time before the fatal accident that killed Ziller. This was 18-Feb-1945 and the V3 third example was only 50% complete when Patton's forces captured the Gotha workshop in mid-April. The US let the RAF examine the V3 with some discussion of getting it in the air, but nothing came of that. That is the short history of the 229, certainly not what that NatGEO TV show implied.
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  224. +@mario64exprt37 Paul Allen was the third owner of the plane after it arrived from Russia. A very well-known collector in the UK, the late Jim Pearce, negotiated and exported a lot of aircraft out of Russia in the early 1990s including the Fw-190. The plane was legally bought and exported by Pearce, then sold to Doug Arnold who started to restore it. Arnold then sold it to Paul Allen, and I believe he didn't pay that much for the incomplete project. (Kermit Weeks was also interested at the time.) Allen put millions into the restoration after he bought it.
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  225.  @usssanjacinto1  What Northrop built was a wood and fiberglass mock-up. No steel frame and without the welded steel panels surrounding the engines. The Horten brothers were not building a "stealth" anything. The predominate design theory for tailless / flying wing aircraft from the 1920s was low drag and fuel efficiency. The brothers promised Goering a fuel efficient bomber that would be fast with jet engines . The Smithsonian didn't find any "charcoal" in the paint. When the V3 was captured, it was incomplete and painted with a green fireproof coating. The blue/gray paint was added by the Allies (and I think the Smithsonian should remove that paint, IMO.) The lab samples from the Smithsonian only detected the glues and rotting wood chips.
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  226.  @wyldelf2685  Prior to the fall of Russia (1989-ish) the Russians weren't concerned about old wrecks. Today there is a healthy aircraft restoration industry in Russia, for example the IL-2s that are flying were done in Russia as well as the Mig-3s.
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  227.  @wyldelf2685  This Fw-190 left Russia in 1991 and eventually was restored to perfect original condition. There's a possible Fw-190 in a Russian museum, but with spotty documentation I've not seen photo evidence of it. Keeping in mind that Stalin ordered everything scrapped in Russian occupied areas so he could build his Cold War military.
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  228. +@landmin940 I think all of the CASA 2.111 aircraft have galvanic corrosion issues in the wing spars from the combination of aluminum and steel. So the Cavanaugh example could be flown but may need a new wing spar. Paul Allen's museum has a fresh 2.111 restoration in the hangar, but I did not see the wings attached yet. And Allen's museum has just reopened with new owners.
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  229. +@obiemichaels9675 Yes, that is the Fw-190 found in the forest.
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  230. +@tomjustolsen Doug Arnold had already started a restoration on it when Paul Allen bought the plane from him. Allen was the right billionaire investor who had the passion to return some really rare stuff back to the air. His museum is also building a Stuka which is unheard of from what little Stuka wreckage is obtainable.
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  231. + Darren Gilbert "It's Hawg Wild" is on indoor display at the IWM, Duxford.
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  232. +@Flofutz The ASh engines are not copies of the BMW 801. Their heritage goes back the US engines made under license in Russia starting in the 1930s.
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  233.  @Flofutz  The Shvetsov M-62 engine has origins to the Wright Cyclone engines made under license in Russia. And the Shvetsov M-82/Ash-82 is the twin-row development from the M-62.
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  234. + MrJp990 The are building three Ki-61 in that shop for collectors. They are supposed to fly eventually but finding an original Japanese Ha-40 engine is going to be difficult. One or more of them will probably have to substitute the German DB-601 and those are not easy to find either and cost an enormous amount to return to airworthy condition.
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  235. + Claude Smoot Not in the UK. It was banned in Germany since the end of WW2, although the laws have been updated to allow educational museum exhibits.
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  236. + hearsejr A lot of the burial sites were cleaned up by scrap metal companies in the 1950s. The scrappers also got a lot of the South Pacific aircraft there were easier to get to. "Rot in place" is not a memorial to anything unless it is a known war grave. Rising third-world economies and demand for scrap metals has made the remaining aircraft an easy target when nobody is looking. So it is a race against the clock to save what can be saved from corrosion or scrapping.
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  237. +@jamesphillip6737 It is allowed in the UK. The Allies banned the Nazi Party and the swastika in 1945 and it is still banned, but updates to the law allow museums to use it for exhibits. Not on flying aircraft though.
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  238. Yes, and the NTSB is telling you that a trim tab caused that if you will take time to read the accident reports, particularly the Aircraft Performance Study document. The resultant forces would incapacitate a pilot of any age. And why would you even think there would be "show off" aerobatics in the middle of a race going 500 mph less than 100 feet from the ground?
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  239. +O AA I think the Japanese should probably be credited for creating "stealth." They were researching paint additives for Japanese Navy aircraft to reduce long-range radar detection. This was being done at Tokyo University. Most of the notes were destroyed by the Japanese but US Navy intelligence interviewed the researchers and it was basically just adding various compounds and metallic powders to paint and testing with radar.
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  240. +@123speege No the engine has a cannon hole in it, plus damage from years underwater. The owners were able to find a VERY rare, crated DB-601 for the planned restoration if that ever occurs.
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  241. + Doug Hansen Hundreds of them were lost when they were cheap and pilots with little experience could get them. The accident reports are depressing. For example, the fatal crash with a new P-51 owner with his family crammed into the void behind the seat trying to climb over a thunderstorm--without oxygen support. The loss rate continued into the 1980s when new owners could get proper checkout and training on these high-powered aircraft.
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  242. +Small Fry They follow the same FAA requirements as most other aircraft. The FAA mandated major repairs on flying B-17s in 2001, so there are rules to follow, logs and records to keep. There are experts around the world that still work on engines and other components. Structural components are made to the original factory specifications or with updates that were mandated over the years.
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  243. +@billy54bob The original camouflage and markings were used, 4./JG54 summer forest colors. The paint in the forest is heavily oxidized from UV light and the colors were visible after cleaning, and photographed to document it. But the historians say it's too shiny and the paint tones are a little off from the RLM specs.
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  244.  @billy54bob  The original factory codes DG+HO and the markings were hand-painted by brush with rough brush marks. This was not reproduced in the restoration, which is disappointing.
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  245. +Cees Espee There wasn't much left of WW2 German aircraft and little knowledge and parts to build them. Restorers had to start over, although that knowledge has increased over the last 25 years.
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  246. + Free-bird Rocker Tailless aircraft and flying wing theories from the time were low drag, speed, and fuel efficiency. Nothing about low observability or stealth. Northrop and the Horten brothers applied those ideas in prototype aircraft. The Horten program produced just two prototypes and three more incomplete prototypes in the Gotha factory. All were different designs, the first being a glider that did fly until it was damaged. The second example flew with jet power for a total of about two hours before a fatal crash. That is all the air time that the Horten brothers got. The example which survives today was one of the incomplete prototypes that never flew.
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  247.  @truthpanda1966  The area where the planes were found was a known WW2 scrap dump. The Lend-Lease agreement required the planes to be destroyed at the time, so they were stripped of useful parts and scrapped. I'm heard they have found more stuff including parts of US WW2 planes and some German stuff. If they can get the ID's of the planes they can be rebuilt by collectors and/or added to various museums. These old dumps could also have unexploded ordnance so no surprise that they have been there for so long.
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  248.  @sergeyb8  There aren't many flying Hurricanes, so if a little publicity gets the wrecks to museums for rebuild as part of an aid exchange, I'd be OK with that. Moving war material (even antique) through the export/import process is a complicated effort.
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  249. +Kurt Bjorn Plus the engines fairings were sheet steel that would also give a radar signature.
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  250. The radar mapping from the New Zealand aircraft show that the crater and most of the Hunga Tonga island has disappeared. It's gone leaving just a sliver of land.
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  251. +@stephenholmes The Flying Heritage Museum is completing the first flying Stuka since WW2, although work was slowed down by the museum being sold to new owners. A second flying Stuka project is just getting started and should take several years. Any flying Stuka is difficult due to the lack of viable wrecks and from missing engineering data that was reverse engineered for the Flying Heritage example.
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  252. +Tony Tech That depends on who negotiated the salvage and export permits for the wreck. Lots of paperwork to recover an aircraft. Quite a few have gone over to Australia, and I'd rather they go there instead of sold to the scrap collectors.
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  253. +@tkors1423 The Buffalo incident was a mess. It was raised from the waters in great shape. For some reason, the locals cut the plane in half to crate it for shipment, (I think they were trying to smuggle it out.) Then the US Navy stepped in because the aircraft is technically still US Navy property. The plane was patched up and cleaned and it is currently on loan for display in Finland.
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  254.  @None-zc5vg  The APU was secure. They by-passed the broken fuel pump with a can of gas that spilled all over it.
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  255. +@travisjerden3292 It is one of the five that were constructed. The project was moved from Texas to Classic Fighter Industries in Washington state.
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  256. + Cindy Hurd Northrop at least had developed mechanical yaw dampers for the YB-49 just before Stuart Symington killed the program to punish the company.
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  257. +@John_Doe657 I'm not sure what historians are wrong about. National Geographic jumped to a lot of conclusions and made a lot of assumptions when they created that TV documentary about the 229. The Allies captured an unfinished prototype that wasn't flyable. The previous prototype was smaller and had flown about two hours before a fatal crash. "Stealth" wasn't a design consideration. Only low-drag, speed and fuel efficiency were the promised deliverables.
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  258. + onlyvik There is a second mostly intact example in Chicago, and several wrecks. Paul Allen's museum is rebuilding an example to flying condition, but the museum has currently halted all projects.
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  259. + James Peters There are some groups exploring underwater Stirling examples and recovery options.
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  260. +@paulkirby It went down near the German-Russian battle lines and pilot Ratz was making his way back to the German lines when the Russians took him prisoner. He worked for them as a POW doing electrical work until he was released in 1949. He returned to Germany and raised a family, but he passed away before seeing his plane again.
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  261.  @fw1421  When the Smithsonian was given the 229 around 1950 it sat in open storage in a wooden crate until the 1970s. That is why the majority of the wood has been eaten into powder from fungus. They should really just duplicate the rotted wood parts instead of gluing it back together.
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  262. +@I_Cunt_Spell Modern computer control did solve instability problems with flying wings. Although Jack Northrop had developed yaw dampers in his YB-49 late in the program. Instability was not a good feature for a precision bombing platform.
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  263. +@jasmins203 It is a new-build airframe with GE engines and one of several.
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  264. +Jordan Cunanan It sounds like dropping the gear too early with reduced power brought the plane below minimum speed. They may not have needed to feather #4 and could have had some power available when #3 failed. And when they collided with the ILS and dragged a wingtip, they shoved the throttles on #1 and #2 creating asymmetric thrust and turning the aircraft to the right.
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  265. +@mr.stonks695 It is new-build aircraft with GE engines.
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  266. +@ukulelemikeleii The TIGHAR group convinced a lot of people they were going to recover it but it really was a way to grift donation money. "Maid of Harlick" was a fancy name created by them. TIGHAR has never saved a single aircraft, and they have now spent years collecting money for the Emelia Earhart search. The local officials have now given the P-38 a protected status so it will probably remain in the mud forever until it corrodes away.
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  267. +Rammstein117 Liberty Belle is being rebuilt, but slowly.
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  268. +@RammsteinEnjoyer Only one of the flyable, new-build Me-262s is in Europe and kept at the Messerschmitt Museum in Germany.
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  269. + ss It was fuel fire from a rigged up can of gas to power the APU generator. They should have fixed the APU.
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  270. +white 14 Three "E" variants flying now. Although the third is lurking in the shadows in Germany without any published photos. A fourth Emil is about two-thirds finished before flying.
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  271. +@kingofallcards614 CE IB is the factory code for the replacement Fw-200 after the existing transport was written off in an accident. 2600 was a legacy callsign for Hitler's personal transport.
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  272. @GR8TM4M That Stuka wreck is on display at the Hellenic Air Force Museum in Athens.
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  273. +@waleedali9393 The British were scrambling to sell their newer aircraft to both the Arabs and Israel. Turkey had some Fw-190s but the British stipulated that all German equipment was to be scrapped as part of the aid deal to provide British equipment.
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  274. +@Captain_Scarlet_SIG It is a new-build aircraft from a special project that constructed five for customers. No combat history, but a token blessing from the modern Messerschmitt organization (now Airbus) that gave them sequential serial numbers from the WW2 production series.
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  275. +@rockym2931 There was a rare Soviet aircraft found in another Russian forest, and there was a small clip of it in a YT video that I cannot find. I did some digging and it was the only surviving example although I can't remember the type. The sad part is that it was on private land and the owners fell on hard times and sold it for scrap value.
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  276. + aa bb Germany was not allowed to manufacture military hardware after WW2. When Germany joined NATO in the 1950s it became necessary remilitarize Germany against the Soviet Union with US supplied aircraft. That relationship has continued with Germany sourcing their aircraft from other countries.
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  277.  @sasin2715  True, the US gave the 229 prototype to the RAF over the summer of 1945 while they were interrogating the Horten brothers. The British were done with it by August and it was shipped to the US on the docks in NJ.
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  278.  @PetimecPeti  The second prototype was the first powered example and it flew with jet engines. It only managed two hours of testing before a fatal crash. No performance figures were ever measured.
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  279. + Dingalinglang Mydangalonglinglong The laws on the Swastika vary by country, but the occupying Allies originally put the ban into law at the end of WW2. Plastic model kit makers do not include the swastika on the decals for their kits so that they can sell them in more countries. For similar reasons, YouTube publishers will censor the symbol to deliver their content to more countries without being blocked. It has nothing to do with any so-called "woke" culture - it's already what the law specifies.
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  280. + Chris K He owns the Mustang and the L-39 is one of the aircraft from the Patriots Jet Team airshow display group. And he likely got restricted clearance to operate the aircraft with aerobatics- unlike those dummies flying for Red Bull who just lost their licenses.
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  281. + Martin Taper There is an original in RAF Museum Hendon, as well as a new restoration in Germany and a very early model in Spain.
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  282. +@libertyvilleguy2903 The plane is restored to the original colors. I think the restoration really took about ten years because Paul Allen bought it from another owner. The cost figures that Allen spent was close to $10 million for the restoration work, give or take a few million.
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  283.  @harrier331  I am not familiar with ownership rights in Russia. It was recovered after the Soviet Union collapsed by a very experienced warbird collector in the UK who exported many aircraft. I'm assuming the landowner was compensated for it. The UK collector sold it to Doug Arnold who started to restore it, and then it was sold to Paul Allen who started over with it.
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  284.  @harrier331  Jim Pearce exported the plane from Russia and a lot of other wrecks. He is no longer alive. There is a back story to the recovery of the plane and who did it and how, but I don't have all of that information. Someone with more knowledge of how that happened will have to comment.
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  285. +@peterhulse1064 The pilot was taken prisoner by the Russians and it is possible they took a few useful items. Upper guns and master compass were missing. The Luftwaffe also marked every downed aircraft for possible salvage and being so close to the front lines, mechanics could have also gotten there to remove a few things.
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  286.  @lostnfoundhistory  I also think one of the dead crewmen falls out of the gaping hole at the 14-second mark.
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  287. +@ashleystanness1966 I think the Horten 229 prototype is just a prototype and nothing more. It was the third prototype in the series before the war ended.
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  288. +@garrington120 They few, in that the V1 prototype was an unpowered glider that flew until a crash. And the V2 prototype was the first with jet engines and it flew for two hours of testing until a crash. That was all of the flying that the 229 program achieved.
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  289. +JangoF12b It was six P-38s and two B-17s, and only one has been recovered. There is a new group trying to dig down to another P-38.
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  290. +@cocaine9148 JG54 was part of the Battle of Kursk offensive on the Eastern Front in Summer 1943. This Fw-190 was part of 4./JG54, one of twelve Fw-190s recently allocated to the group. They were operating in the Leningrad area, so naturally this Fw-190 was lost in July 1943. This is historical record.
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  291. + Destroyer He is a pilot and owns that P-51 Mustang. But he became a pilot after the Top Gun film. And since I was looking, the US Navy would not give him security clearance to fly or operate the controls of an F-18 for the new Maverick film.
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  292. +@NoahMoreon Both the British and the US studied the V2 229 prototype but it was never flown by either and never flew at all. It was very incomplete when it was found. By 1947 or so the AAF was done with most of the captured aircraft. It was Gen. Hap Arnold who wisely said to save some of them and they (including the 229) were moved to a hangar at Orchard Field, Chicago and stored until they were donated to the Smithsonian around 1950.
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  293. +Mark Rowland The Jumo 211 is not a diesel. And it is not an opposed piston engine, it is an inverted VEE configuration. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XeN7ki1fDxQ/UJ1AlisjblI/AAAAAAAAFYw/FVgUxy-xIiM/s1600/19.jpg
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  294.  @WarblesOnALot  I believe that there are some EFI and electronic ignition updates for the smaller radials, but I don't think any are available for the big iron engines at this time. And some of your thoughts are sadly true. I thought the human factors analysis would be interesting, but not in this way.
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  295. + LAshutterbug The N9M at Planes of Fame crashed and was destroyed in April 2019. Museum pilot David Vopat was killed. It was maintenance flight and the NTSB report concludes unexplained loss of control. No announcement on rebuild plans but it was a high speed impact and there is little left of it.
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  296. +Joshua Plotkin Any chance of a forensic examination of the plane was lost when the Egyptians did their paint-by-numbers restoration. But I believe that the pilot had flown it beyond the expected fuel range.
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  297. + arnoldhyper99 This Bf-109 toured as a war bonds exhibit and eventually spent a long time in storage in Canada. Over time some cowling pieces and the engine went missing. So you can see that the museum is gradually constructing the missing parts.
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  298. +@daveonbass79 Drag rudders near the wingtips were the intended design for rudder control. To my knowledge, I've not seen a photo of the surviving V3 with flight controls attached. It was incomplete when found in 1945.
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  299. +@JamesThomas-gg6il The US Navy dumped a couple of captured Arado 234s at the end of their runway over in Maryland at Patuxant River Air Station year ago and they were visible until the 1980s. But I don't think you would get a warm welcome digging around for them right now.
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  300. +@IronZombie The Lake Murray B-25 is on display (unrestored) at the Southern Museum of Flight in Burmingham, AL.
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  301. +@stevesic1 After WW2, the companies for Messerschmitt, Focke Wulf, Junkers and Heinkel went through a number of mergers. Today they are all merged under Airbus. I think Dornier has been merged as part of Fairchild Aircraft.
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  302. +@geraldleat5970 They use GE CJ 610 turbines in replica housings to keep the look and weight correct. The 610s still have too much power, but they operate them in a low power range to mimic the original engines.
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  303. Pictures of him always seemed to remind me of a Poseidon quietly living under the sea and writing music. And I think if the entirety of human history and world events were to be given a soundtrack, Vangelis would have been the composer. HIs style was very unique.
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  304. +@distractedgeek The German RLM did have painting standards for aircraft, and those changed during the war. The cockpit of the Flying Heritage Museum Stuka restoration is not complete but appears to be RLM 66 dark gray for the completed sections. The gold anodizing is for interior structure.
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  305.  @distractedgeek  The RLM had a standard for everything. Cockpit colors were RLM 02 until November 1941 when the specification was changed to RLM 66.
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  306.  @depj1000  Unfortunately pilot error is a factor to consider. Though the pilot on this B-17 had more hours than any other B-17 pilot. If you look at vintage aircraft accidents, many of them are pilot error rather than mechanical. The high-performance piston types can be deadly to pilots without special experience and training.
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  307.  @Jophlo78  A relative of mine has a Frontier. Every time I have driven it, I am glad to get out. Same experience when I test drove the old Pathfinder. I wanted to get out the minute I sat down in it.
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  308.  @carlitobrigante6304  Oh, and I don't have info on the negotiations in Russia and I assume the landowner would have been compensated for the plane. Germany has no claim to it.
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  309. +dannafe Educational display is allowed, such as museum display. Flying an aircraft or selling model kits is a gray area and can still be considered "promoting" the ideology and is not permitted. It is still not welcome in many countries.
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  310. + Lucas Ceglinski On the B-29, they were using an improvised can of fuel for the APU instead of fixing the fuel pump. The pump draws fuel from a AUX tank in the back.
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  311. +@anekata217 Tailless and flying wing aircraft had been a theoretical design study in multiple countries since the 1920s. They were all experiments.
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  312. +Aries13 Workers at Gatow have been restoring a Dora for many years for static display. It will be nice see it finally finished. It was a remarkable salvage from Lake Schwerin in the 1980s and by today's standards could have easily been rebuilt to flying condition. But due to continued deterioration after it was removed from the water a lot of structure needed to be rebuilt for the restoration.
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  313. +@QED_ It could also have been just a sloppy Luftwaffe mechanic who changed the engine. There were slave-labor factories all over and there are videos on YouTube of those poor souls repairing engines. It's probably possible to trace the factory where the engine was made based on the number plate but attempting to identify an individual would be nearly impossible. It reminds me of the Soviet labor camps mentioned in the movie Dr. Zhivago: "She died or vanished somewhere, forgotten as a nameless number on a list which was afterwards mislaid."
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  314. + Dave Bolig It's the other way around. The company began as Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG and was reincorporated into Messerschmitt AG in 1939. Following the naming standards by RLM, the 109 has a BF prefix when it was designed. After the company became Messerschmitt AG new aircraft used the ME prefix, but both ME and BF were acceptable for the Bf-109.
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  315. +@@josephosheavideos3992 The US Navy still claims most of their wrecked aircraft as USN property, including the Lake Michigan aircraft. They are slowing warming up to trades but are generally very strict. The aircraft that have come out of Lake Michigan have gone to US Navy museums.
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  316. +@ianlaws3857 The group TIGHAR created the name Maid of Harlech and took money while promising to recover and save the aircraft. This never happened. The name TIGHAR is for The International Group for History Aircraft Recovery but they have NEVER saved a single aircraft while collecting millions in donations. It was more lucrative to start a years-long search for Emelia Earhart that has never solved the mystery while taking millions more in donations. Meanwhile, the locals have assigned the P-38 a protected heritage status and it will remain in the sand forever now.
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  317. + James C Blueprints would have materials specification also. Plus the effort to convert from imperial measurements to metric without compromising airframe strength. Why bother when wartime production barely kept pace and when the Germans already had aircraft that were competitive with the Spitfire?
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  318.  @BombshellCreations  It's possible that the collection will eventually move in few years, maybe to Walmart country in Arkansas. Wait for info later.
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  319. @Paw95 An Me-262 crashed in Ohio after an engine fire forced the pilot to bail out, but it crashed on land.
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  320. +Vincent Huijing After capture, the US gave the 229 V3 to the British to study over the Summer of 1945, and they also looked at the possibility of refitting it with RR Nene turbines. The British concluded that it could not be done for the larger Nene engines. At the same, British Intelligence were interviewing the Horten brothers about their work and attempts were made to locate the remains of the V1 and V2 examples for study, but those were not located or had been destroyed. The British did not fly the V3, in fact I have read some accounts that nobody waned to fly it. By August 1945 the V3 had been returned to the US and it was transported by train from the docks in New Jersey to Wright Field. The Smithsonian has not found any records of test flying, only paperwork discussing the possibilities. You may also notice the V3 example is missing all control surfaces in period photos and these may not have been ready when it was captured. (Although several years ago a seller on Ebay was claiming to have original Ho-229 control surfaces in Germany for sale. They did look like the proper shape and size, but I do not know if they were authenticated, or what became of them afterward.) Regarding materials, the Smithsonian prepared lab samples of the wood and glues from the artifact and did not find any charcoal present. What was found was only various chemicals from the adhesives and particles of wood in various states of decay.
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  321. +DENISE moss Mr. Overton passed away in 2018. A very inspiring fellow.
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  322. + Love Anarchy It's not new. Sea storms have been uncovering and covering it since the 1970s.
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  323. + Matti Peltola Not quite. A group of Northrop employees took some measurements and built a mock up of the 229 for a radar study. Also the Ho-229 was not being built as a fighter----it was a medium bomber, although Gotha was constructing an armed version in their workshop.
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  324. +@finnmanproductions9240 Not many, just a few from Doug Arnold's shop in the UK after they washed it. There is a photo of it hanging in the sling below a helicopter. When Paul Allen bought the plane it went dark. Allen's museum typically did their restorations privately with just a few photos in magazines. If they documented the restoration from start to finish, it would make a fascinating book someday. And I hope they do the same with the Stuka and the Me-262.
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  325. +@ericbrett3095 His sister was his only heir and she owns them now along with the rest of his portfolio. She closed the museum against his final wishes.
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  326. + Drake Orion The Willow Grove Me-262 is still US Navy property and now it is restored and on display at the Navy museum in Pensacola.
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  327. +@Rabmac1UK The problem wasn't inverted flight per se, but negative-G maneuvers. This was fixed later with a carburetor change. Sustained inverted flight in most WW2 aircraft would not be possible due to the oil pickups and oil systems of the aircraft. They are pressure lubricated but the oil scavenge pumps would not be effective.
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  328. +@UncleBubba13 The "Atlanta" Zero is well-known and ended up at Paul Allen's museum as a wreck. Allen's museum sold it to Germany where I think it will eventually start a rebuild to flying.
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  329. +@cbuk8691 Paul Allen's sister went against his final wishes and closed the museum. Only a few aircraft were sold. One of the heirs to the Walmart fortune has bought the entire museum and it just reopened, but I do not know the plans for flying displays. And it is possible that the museum will relocate at some point in the future.
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  330. bern bren There has been no formal identification of the pilot's remains for a military funeral. Any remains that were found in the search are still waiting for analysis in Egypt and I don't think the British MOD has moved to expedite the identification.
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  331. The plane was crated and moved to a secure location to protect it from more vandals. There was supposed to be an official ceremony to hand the aircraft over to the British for a museum, however the military coup in Egypt prevented that and due to the chaos the whereabouts of the plane are now unknown. Some bones were found near the wreck location, but any forensic examination that was done in Cairo did not produce a positive ID and those bones have disappeared also. So it is pretty messed up right now.
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  332. ***** I don't know why the British MoD did not make identifying any nearby remains a priority, even if they did not turn out to be the unfortunate pilot. Instead, whatever was found nearby was supposedly given a half-arsed examination in Cairo and also lost during the military coup.
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  333. +Guy Willoughby The 109E is one of two airworthy Emils in the world (although a third was just completed to fly in Germany this year.) It was recovered from Russia and was originally restored for collector David Price in California and then sold to the Russell Group in Canada. (The actual restoration work had been done by Charleston Aviation in the UK.) It has been for sale for a very long time and was purchased by a new owner in the UK and it will reside at Biggin Hill. The engine and prop are just back from routine service and they started test flying. Surviving records show that the plane flew both in the BoB and on the Eastern Front (even being flown by ace Hans Marseille for a bit.)
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  334. MissCattitude63 To quote Boeing's own literature: "From the beginning the 747 was designed to serve as an all-cargo transport." The 747-100 and 747-200 series were introduced one year apart, with the 747-200 offered as either a passenger carrier or heavy-lift freighter beginning in 1971. Boeing would not be so stupid to not adapt a high capacity airframe to two profitable markets.
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  335. +thevealchop68 It's all in the NTSB report documents- race photos, lab reports, recovered parts. No broken seat, just old and out-of-spec parts that should not have been reused. A few bucks in nuts and bolts.
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  336. Better said that they are conserving it. Careful cleaning and chemical extraction of the salts and minerals absorbed by the metal to stabilize it. Then reassemble and perhaps building missing parts so that it looks more complete. Not a flying rebuild.
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  337. Two crewmen taken prisoner and two crewmen died, with their remains found washed ashore later.
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  338. There's just one thing Dude. Do you have use so many cuss words?..................................Okay Dude. Have it your way.
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  339. Adrian Larkins It's been locked in secure storage for a while to prevent more damage.
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  340. johnson11b The latest discussions are that the P-40 is still in Egypt, and the political situation is so dire that hopes are fading that it will ever make it out. A deal was negotiated to exchange the remains of a Spitfire for it and concerns are also being raised whether this was a proper trade. Supposedly, the P-40 still remains in secure storage and individuals directly involved in the recovery state that it will still be moved to the UK.
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  341. No, the pilot is identified correctly. But no bones or body have been positively ID'd. Whatever bones were found (animal or human) have been lost in Egypt.
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  342. Hardly a whole Spitfire, so the paper is wrong and speculating. The Spit is an engineless, stripped out hulk that was exchanged for recovering the P-40. People who are "in the know" are saying that the P-40 deal is still a go.
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  343. +Aaron Ryan There was not a conclusive DNA test on bones that were found in a perimeter search, and many people die in the desert. (Along with some evidence that the DNA test in Cairo was a lousy job.) Those bones (and the plane) have disappeared in chaos of the military coup in Egypt. Some have suggested that the from the crash damage the pilot may have suffered back, pelvic or leg injuries and could have even died in the cockpit and was buried by passing tribesmen. It will remain a mystery unless move evidence is found.
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  344. They found the remains of the parachute and assumed there was an attempt at shelter. Everything is lost for the time being until things settle down in Egypt and there was no formal ID of bones that were found three miles away.
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  345. +MechRider69 +The plane was crated and moved to safe area before an official ceremony to give it to the RAF for museum display. Before the ceremony, there was a military coup in Egypt with Field Marshal el-Sisi and the plane was lost in the chaos. Hopefully it will be found again, and there was even a rumor that it was taken out of Egypt, but who knows at this time.
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  346. +John Baily Nope. Although there was a rumor that the plane made it out of Egypt. If that were true, there would be more gossip about it. Things went silent when el-Sisi took over.
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  347.  @semproniodensso3353  The original design specs requested from Northrop was a 10,000-mile range for the B-35 wing development. Northrop was ahead of the Horten brothers in designing that platform.
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  348. +@towel2473 Ratz was a mechanic before retraining as a pilot. His son still has his old logbooks.
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  349.  @towel2473  A sloppy mechanic is one of my theories, especially since the plane had an engine swap. But engine sabotage from forced labor was common, either putting objects in the engine or deliberately building them out of spec. For example France had a leftover Fw-190 factory with parts and engines and decided to build them for their own military after WW2. There were called the SNCAC NC-900. They had enough leftover parts to build about 120 of them I think. The BMW engines had been made by forced labor, and they were so unreliable and out of spec that France did not build many of the NC-900s, maybe 60 if I recall.
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  350.  @grum__1  Flying wing theory from the 1920s and 1930s was low drag and fuel efficiency. Absolutely nothing about stealth. Northrop and the Hortens were students of those theories.
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  351. + Soup Diver Why was it stopped? I knew the funding was limited but that is too important of an example to leave unfinished. When it was raised from Lake Schwerin it was preserved enough to have been made into a flying example, but it was allowed to deteriorate in storage. If they cannot finish it, then trade it out to another German museum to complete.
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  352.  @soupdiver6855  Well that wastes the years of work spent on it. Very short sighted by the museum leadership and I hope another museum offers a trade and completes the work.
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  353. +@aleksazunjic9672 Your Russian sources are wrong. Pilot Ratz was a POW in Russia and survived the war.
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  354. +@francisomartin155 The Smithsonian took lab samples and there is no charcoal in the glues or paints. The V3 prototype at the Smithsonian was designed by Gotha and was captured unfinished (and unpainted) by Patton's forces in a Gotha workshop in April 1945.
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  355. +@tevormillar1576 There is decent documentation of the Allied planes that were captured and used by the Germans. The Germans had a very good system of salvaging downed aircraft with guns, engines, fuel, and equipment used for training schools. Usable engines were processed and repaired as spares for captured aircraft. Leftover wreckages was processed for recycling. The famous KG200 B-17 "Wulf Hund" was left abandoned and found at an airfield that was liberated by the Russians. It was scrapped after the war. But recently the same airfield did some cleanup and many parts of Wulf Hund were found buried, including the instrument panel with German notes painted next to the controls.
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  356. + blitzy No, the Luftwaffe started using bright unit identification colors to reduce friendly-fire losses.
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  357. +@norbertolagrava4734 That is not correct. CFI constructed five new Me-262s after contracting to restore the original Me-262B-1a W.Nr. 110639 for the US Naval Aviation Museum. Restoring the original allowed CFI to use the parts for templates.
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  358. + Rajesh Singh Completely false. They aborted their planned flight after damage and were making an emergency landing.
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  359. +Andrew Donohue "Liberty Belle" is being reconstructed at least, although it is going to take a long time.
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  360. +Oil Burner Yes, museum workers are doing the meticulous conservation work now. It's not going to be full rebuild.
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  361. +@andywells397 JME Engineering did most of the work on it in the UK and it was finished in the US. Engine work was done in California. JME also did Paul Allen's Me-262 before it was finished in the US. Mr. Moore retired to other work and JME is now closed.
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  362. +@jaakkooksa5374 Several new-build Me-262s were made by a special project and they fly with GE CJ 610 turbines.
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  363.  @emmedigi89  I am counting two Re 2000, a complete one in Sweden and fuselage in Italy and said to be under restoration. I count one Re 2001, which is the corroded example raised from saltwater. I see two Re 2002, both just fuselages--one in France and one in Italy under restoration. There is one Re 2005 in Italy and it is just a partial fuselage.
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  364. + Johny666EU One Horten brother remained in Germany while the other negotiated asylum with several countries refusing. He eventually went to Argentina.
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  365. +@pac1fic055 Paul Allen's museum bought the Ki-43 from NZ, intending to rebuild it into a flying example.
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  366. +@aleksanzunjic9672 They were attacked by Hurricanes from 2./2gvKAP VVS SF on 4-April-1942. Pilot SLt Pokrovskij reported a kill on a Bf-109 and had observed it make a forced landing.
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  367. +Schlipperschlopper Schlipperschlopper It was not high speed except for estimates on paper. The smaller V2 prototype suffered the fatal crash on the very flight to measure speed data. And remember that the Horten brothers only managed about 2 hours of powered flight on the V2 prototype--that was it, with the rest of the program ending in the Gotha workshop. 600 mph is optimistic at best for a tube frame and plywood skin aircraft that may have even come apart. With proper stressed skin construction--maybe.
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  368. + @johnreed9435 I think some of Allen's aircraft were moved to the Vulcan hangar out of public view. The entire museum has been purchased by another billionaire owner and is expected to reopen in the future, but no announced date as of yet.
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  369. + Anthony Sabine The 229 V3 prototype actually did use a main wheel from the He-177 as a nosewheel.
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  370. +@roberts9095 The Northrop model department constructed a shape, not an aircraft.
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  371. +@user-og4uq6bo5r The first owners started a restoration before Paul Allen bought it. Paul Allen took the next steps and restored it better than any other collector would have done and made it airworthy. Allen wanted the original skins kept and the plane is maybe 80% original metal.
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  372. +Matthew Williams Those are from the Soplata estate. He passed away and his family has been gradually selling the aircraft to buyers, but they won't sell to just anyone.
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  373. + @pauledwards8008 The US gave the captured (and unfinished) Ho-229 V3 to the British over the summer of 1945 for study. After assembly, nobody wanted to fly, and the British were looking whether RR turbines would fit but they did not. By late August 1945 the British didn't want it and it was in a shipping crate on the docks in New Jersey. No attempts were made to fly the V3 in the US either and it was kept by the AAF until it was donated to the Smithsonian around 1950.
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  374. + Sooner Models There are some allowances for museum/education exhibits.
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  375. + Lemmy Killmister The Czechs only managed to construct about twelve Me-262 airframes. By 1949 the factory had retooled for a newer aircraft.
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  376. +@gusloader123 There are a lot of aircraft in the European waters, some with dangerous munitions and they will not touch them. A number of shallow water wrecks were removed in the 1970s and 1980s and were destroyed or blown up to eliminate the danger.
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  377. +Supes Me He ignored signals from fellow pilots that he was flying in the wrong direction and to turn around.
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  378.  @pmayo7894  Yes, the engines were covered in crudely-welded steel fairings front-to-back for fire protection. That would have added a lot a reflectivity.
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  379. +@alvalankerofficial A substantial number of German aircraft were found in Russia after the Iron Curtain fell. But this Fw-190 was the most intact and remarkably preserved. Several flying Luftwaffe examples are Russian recoveries with many still in storage waiting for restoration/money/parts. Stalin had explicitly ordered everything cleaned up and melted down but some survived.
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  381.  @708sal123  I'm using AdBlock Plus and no ads for me.
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  382. +@landoremick7422 I think if the Me-262 was in service sooner, the war may have lasted about a year longer while the Allies developed their jets. WW2 would have ended where the Korean War began, with mixed combat between jets and piston aircraft.
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  383. +@starflash08 It would never have been restored to flying condition unless Paul Allen had gotten it. No other wealthy collector would have spent the money needed to make it happen.
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  384. +@cullen3624 The rebuild used about 80% of the original metal. The original radio was restored to working order. Items that were replaced were remanufactured to be original. For example, I have read that the electrical wiring was remade with cotton wrapping as it would have been in WW2. Millions were spent on this restoration.
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  385. +@daviddavid8218 There is an original Me-262 that is restored to fly in the US but it still needs more ground testing. The Jumo engines have been carefully rebuilt to be more durable.
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  386.  @daviddavids8218  AeroTurbine in CA spent 10 years rebuilding the Jumo turbines but they have not discussed any changes or metallurgy used, per Paul Allen's original policies for secrecy. In general they ran them until they broke, fixed them and kept going. In a publication, AT has estimated the engines will be good for 300 hrs TBO. At the time of Allen's death the Me-262 was in final assembly and had started taxi and brake testing. It's not ready for any test flying without more work.
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  387.  @daviddavids8218  Only a few planes/projects were sold by the museum. Paul Allen's museum was sold to another wealthy investor and it is open again. There have been no announcements regarding resuming any projects.
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  388. +@stevelyon867 New-build Me-262 with GE CJ610 turbines.
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  389. + @iantonkin1143 The North Sea oil surveys have found bombers from time to time. I think the strong sea currents in the Channel have broken up any aircraft that sank there.
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  390. + NewJerseyJay There is an incomplete second example already, so there is good start.
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  391. +@mrfester42 BMW made an official corporate apology in 2016 and I think Mercedes paid some reparation money in 1988. Neither company will get involved in vintage aircraft restorations, technical assistance, etc.
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  392. +@antoniodelrio Billionaire dude bought it from the first owners who had already started the restoration. Billionaire dude also had the money to restore the plane to as original condition as possible, and he spent about $10 million on the rebuild. It is an impressive restoration.
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  393. + Gary devones It drifted over Alaskan and Canadian air space for days. It isn't something that would have gone unnoticed by civilian and military radar.
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  394.  @justme.9711  It was Patton's forces steamrolling across Germany and they captured Gotha's workshop with the unfinished prototypes. They took some photos and handed work off to Army Intelligence.
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  395. +Bartenational Bart - email - nationwide It did nothing but sit unfinished on the ground. It was the third in the prototype series and only the first two prototypes briefly saw air.
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  396. +Jim Sottosanti Operating costs will probably ground them before safety issues. The FAA mandated wing spar inspect and replace for B-17s way back in 2001, so they do monitor operation and safety for them. There may be increased oversight for vintage aircraft after this accident though.
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  397. +Tom Servo Not a loose generator. They neglected to fix a fuel pump and ran the generator with jerry can of gas. The generator must be running on the ground and for low engine RPM.
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  398. +@fr.michaelknipe4839 Five new-build Me-262s were manufactured by a special project in the US, for unique buyers. Four of those are flyable. There is one original restoration that was rebuilt for short flights but it is not finished yet.
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  399.  @madmanmechanic8847  If the Horten brothers had more time, they would have built the same YB-35/YB-49 bomber design that Northrop started building in 1941. Northrop didn't need any help from the Horten brothers.
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  400.  @madmanmechanic8847  Without computer-controlled flight systems, it would have suffered the same lateral stability problems as other flying wing projects and particularly any platform that was intended to drop bombs accurately. They used wood because strategic aluminum was in short supply, and I doubt the aircraft would have stayed in one piece at higher airspeeds. Yes, low radar signature is inherent to flying wing designs so there are "accidental" properties but not invented by the Germans. Innovative? Yes. Game changer? Not really. There was more strategic advantage with speed and supersonic aircraft than avoiding radar as nations moved into the Cold War era.
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  401.  @madmanmechanic8847  Again, Northrop was independently working on flying wings and began design and construction of the YB-35 in 1941and later a switch to a jet-powered version. It had two major problems - instability and poor fuel economy. The Horten brothers solved neither problem with their own designs. Flying wings were a cool concept but they were not ready for prime-time without computerized flight management. The Horten brothers never measured any speed data on their wing design - in fact the fatal crash occurred on the test flight to collect speed data. Any speed information you read on the 229 are only estimations and calculations, there is no data. The 229 program only achieved two hours of powered flight so there is little to no hard data on flight performance. The program only produced prototypes and paper airplanes. There is no superiority argument to make.
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  402.  @madmanmechanic8847  Since you aren't reading anyways. Flying wing theories began in the 1920s and both Northrop and the Horten brothers independently took that research to new levels. The Horten brothers didn't invent the flying wing, though they contributed to wing ideas. But back to your argument, flying wings need sophisticated flight management to be useful, so the 229 would not have been a "game changer." The engines were shielded with heat resistant steel panels from front to back and this would have added to any radar signature. Regarding the Horten brothers needing more time, Reinmar fled to Argentina (because it was the only country that would take him) and he continued designing aircraft. Funny that the 229 did not find any second life there after WW2. Northop took the flying wing farther to a long-range strategic platform but (along with AF Secretary Symington's political meddling) the YB-49 still had lateral stability problems and likely could not have hit the side of a barn accurately from height, so the program was killed in favor of the B-36. Wings were not ready no matter who built them.
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  403. +@NSHHorseheadSD70 Historians did the research on the aircraft way back in the 1990s when collector Doug Arnold had it in his shop in the UK. That was all documented from the serial number on the plane.
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  404.  @DL6UK  I believe either D-FMBB Bf-109G-6 (FMBB) or D-FDME Bf-109G-10 ("Black 2") was the first Bf-109 to return the air with a DB engine in the mid or late 1980s in Germany. Both aircraft are still around but both are undergoing extensive work are are not flying. "Black 2" is now painted as "Yellow 3" and I think FMBB is currently for sale. Both reside at the Messerschmitt Museum.
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  405. + Hubris Wonk Aircraft inside in museums should be just fine as long as they get regular attention. There should be nothing on display outside because the weather and birds just wreck them. There are still some fighters and rare stuff rotting outside at outdoor museums and on military bases.
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  406. +@richardventus1875 The colors are correct after cleaning the plane and the historical information. The plane had three layers of paint on it and was very weathered out in the forest.
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  407. +@derekheeps1244 More than one Mossie is airworthy, thanks to a New Zealand workshop that recreated all of the molds and jigs for the type. They are still working on several examples.
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  408. +@BjornStyrmir It is painted in the correct markings for 4./JG54 in July 1943 on the Eastern Front. The paint and markings were documented when the plane was cleaned, and there are a few photos of other Fw-190s from that group.
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  409. +@michaelhuye The paint is correct for 4./JG54 in July 1943 and the colors were documented when the plane was cleaned and washed. There are period photos of a few other 4./JG54 Fw-190s with a similar pattern.
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  410. @69Jackmix69 The U-boat guys have created a database of every U-boat and what happened to it, some have GPS coordinates for where they were sunk. There are still U-boats resting in some of the bombed pens. I think those should have been pulled up years ago for museums.
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  411. + John Edet Tom Cruise is a licensed pilot and owns the Mustang, and has other pilot ratings. However, since I was checking on that, he did not control the Navy F-18 fighter in the new movie because he was denied security clearance to operate that aircraft for the filming.
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  412. + Hastur The Alles never flew any of the Horten aircraft. V1 and V2 were destroyed and lost in the summer of 1945. The V3 wasn't finished when the Allies found it. V4, V5, and V6 were just partial metal frames and were probably destroyed in place at the Gotha factory.
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  413. +@teddygamer6837 Only the smaller prototype flew for about two hours of testing before it was destroyed in an accident. They did not measure any speed data.
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  414.  @MeewBeew  The smaller V2 prototype was the first to have powered flight with jet engines. They only managed about two hours of testing before a fatal crash on 18-Feb-1945 after a single engine failure and this killed test pilot Ziller. The was the end of the 229 program, ironically on a flight to measure speed data. All other speed figures for the jet-powered version are estimations. The V3 that is in the Smithsonian today was captured very incomplete on 14-April-1945 by Patton's forces in the Gotha workshop in Friedrichsroda, Germany.
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  415. +@fightersweep Several of the Spanish 2.111 and Buchons were original factory airframes from Germany. There is a project (now in Austria maybe) that is working to build a flyable He-111 again. But this project has been crawling along for well over 20 years. Paul Allen's Flying Heritage Musuem has a fresh restoration of a CASA 2.111, but not finished. And with Allen's death and the museum sold all of the current projects are still not finished.
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  416.  @KalashmanNC  They get a yearly medical clearance, plus a medical clearance to race. Leeward was not even the oldest person flying, who I think was 99 and still going. Medically, he was on heart medication and erectile dysfunction meds. I'm thinking about Jim Leroy's crash, and he had been taking ibuprofen and if that affected his reflexes for his performance.
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  417. +@tj-597 The 229 never got beyond the prototype stages. The V1 was a glider and was destroyed during a landing attempt. The V2 was the first to fly with jet engines, although it only flew for about two hours before a fatal crash that killed the test pilot. All of the V models were different design. The larger V3 at the Smithsonian was incomplete when the Allies found it and it has never flown.
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  418. +@aj-2savage896 Hughes Aerospace obtained an original example from disposal at Wright Field and was denied entry into the 1947 Cleveland Air Races. The Hughes Me-262 remained at the Planes of Fame Museum in deteriorated condition until billionaire Paul Allen bought it for his museum and for restoration. Allen's museum intended to return it to flying condition for short display flights, but it is not quite ready and will need some more ground testing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPazuFQZE3o
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  419.  @Jon-yv5js  The G-loads from this accident would have overwhelmed a young pilot in top fitness. It was very violent and very fast.
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  420. + ski maks That is confirmed in the photos from the NTSB report. The G-forces were forward and down, so the pilot was slumped against the instrument panel and unconscious.
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  421. +@stlrockn Mr. Pearce recovered three Bf-110 from Russia in the early 1990s. Two went to Germany to construct the beautiful example at the Technical Museum in Berlin. The third example is in private storage and said to be complete enough for a future project. All other Bf-110 examples/wreckage are in museums.
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  422. @eliaswengiel6479 Fragments of Hess's plane are on display in a museum.
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  423. + @noelsalisbury7448 That's not fair to Paul Allen. His financial assets were divided into real estate, sponsoring arts and museums, sports and entertainment (he owned the Seattle Seahawks, aviation and aerospace, and misc charities. Allen's sister was the only heir to his fortune and she cut off the money to multiple entities that Allen supported including his WW2 museum. He wanted it to stay open.
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  424. +@waynevarkevisser7589 The research for this plane began in 1991-1992 in the UK after it arrived from Russia. Paint research: Mark Sheppard. Pilot Reseach: Mark Sheppard, Axel Urbanke. Technical/Airframe: Authur Bentley and also the extremely talented people at JME Engineering in the UK.
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  425.  @dallesamllhals9161  Well.....the Brewster Buffalo that was pulled out of the lake in Russia was actually cut in half by the shippers to smuggle it out of Russia. Later the US Navy stepped in with rightful ownership of the plane (and they do own it.) It was patched together and is own loan for display in Finland.
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  426. +@cuddlepaws4423 The aircraft that were set aside by Gen. Arnold were moved to an empty hangar at Orchard Field, Chicago. (Now O'Hare.) There are photos inside the hangar and that group of aircraft were donated to the Smithsonian around 1950.
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  427. +Diesel 84 To be specific, they traded the partial remains of a Spitfire. But still another Spitfire that could have been restored to flying condition. The entire deal was a debacle after the military coup in Egypt and their reneging on returning the Kittyhawk to the UK. The coup was pretty rough and things shut down quickly, and it sounded like things got very Gestapo for a while.
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  428. +Billy Lozito No it was a test aircraft and was lost during a test flight in October 1944 (engine fire and fatal crash.)
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  429. +@konixtwenty8275 It didn't go the to the US first. It went to a well-connected and experienced UK collector who recovered at least 40 wrecks from Russia. Post Soviet Russia would have scrapped it. The Russians didn't understand why Westerners wanted those wrecks. It was only after a few years that corruption and organized crime made it much more difficult to recover WW2 wrecks from Russia. Although, wrecks have come out of Russia legally since that time.
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  430. + Johnny Joanknecht Significantly less? Not really. Northrop built a mock-up of the craft but it did not have the welded steel panels that surround the engines and no pilot in the cockpit. The Horten brothers did not invent stealth and they were not building a stealth aircraft. Flying wing design theories from that time were speed and fuel efficiency.
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  431. +dehoe disc That would be a true statement for the B-29 "Kee Bird." In general though we have to rely on those with means to purchase them and navigate complicated negotiations and regulations to acquire and export/import these aircraft. Better than seeing them picked to pieces for scrap and souvenirs, which is happening more frequently now. Or (aside from identified war graves) left to rot into oblivion forgotten and unseen.
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  432. +@charlespotter769 It was restored by a very talented team in the UK and the engine was completed by experts in California. Final assembly was completed in 2010 in Arizona with test flights and final painting completed there. It was delivered to Paul Allen's museum in Washington by truck.
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  433. +@Radnick0024 The Raiders of the Lost Ark aircraft was a movie prop created by a designer, who was inspired by various unusual American and German prototypes.
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  434. +@Nev Lomeur He was pilot F/O František Hekl and it was only his second day flying Spitfires. On 25-October-1941 he was flying low and dug wingtip into the water and crashed. His body was never found, so he is still resting in Loch Doon.
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  435. +@SPOOKSTER The South Pacific governments can be unreliable regarding WW2 wreckage. A very intact P-38 was discovered in 2012 in a swamp in Guadalcanal with the pilot still inside. After MIA teams had removed the pilot, the local officials wanted to scrap the P-38. After some time a local man filed a claim to keep the P-38 and it eventually went to the Soloman Islands War Museum.
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  436. +@Anirossa It is the only WW2 airframe that is flying. A second restoration will begin test flights soon. There are multiple new-build replica Fw-190 aircraft that are flying, although different from WW2 originals.
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  437. +@Bradydog-in7ut Not Steve Jobs from Apple, but the late Paul Allen from Microsoft. It is true that both BMW and Mercedes recognize their technical achievements for WW2 aviation, but they have distanced themselves from restorations due the well-known use of forced labor/slave labor for WW2 manufacturing. BMW has issued a formal public apology for WW2. It is still a very sensitive topic. Roll Royce is still very involved with their engine heritage and maintain license on the engines. I suspect that BMW and Mercedes would still enforce patent rights on their engines. A very well-known engine builder in California was responsible for the BMW on the Fw-190 and has also built the Jumo 211 for the Stuka that is not finished. That shop delivered another BMW for the Fw-190 owned by the Collings Foundation, and I understand that they have sent it back to the shop for some issues. So the BMW must be a tricky one to get right.
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  438. +@HunterZ32 It's been on the schedule to restore at Fighter Rebuilders for a long time. Although the owners may have changed their minds, not clear on it.
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  439.  @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent  Fair enough. A lot of people say that they built a 229 copy, but they did not. The tube frame and large steel engine fairings on the original would also have reflected a lot of radar.
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  440.  @wolf310ii  The Horten brothers promised Goering a flying wing that was fast and fuel efficient. Radar materials would not have been much of a consideration while the brothers were trying to build something that flew, which they had not fully accomplished yet. The 229 V models were experimental designs and they were changing the design each time. They only had about two hours of powered flight before they program ended. It is good that you mention Naval radar, because it was the Japanese that were trying radar disruptive paints for Japanese Navy aircraft beginning in 1943 to reduce long-range detection.
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  441. + Paul Dutton No CASA 2.111 aircraft has flown in the US since the fatal accident in 2003. It was the last example in the world that was still flying. There are a few that could fly with some work but it would be very expensive due to internal corrosion.
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  442. +@callenclarke371 There are no operational Sabre engines at this time. Three projects will be using Sabre engines and they will get them working in time. The projects are focusing on airframe construction first.
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  443.  @sixtwentyeight8620  The paint applied by the factory would have been the standard RLM grey colors. When JG54 got the plane in June 1943 they painted it in the forest green and brown camouflage for summer colors. There are a few period photos of the JG54 Fw-190s in variations of that camouflage.
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  444. +Matt Kurke There's a book on the Black 6 story, by Russ Snadden, although I don't own it.
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  445. +@glynmatthews6697 The paint is correct, follow the comments below.
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  446. +@bryanparkhusrt17 There are four new-build Me-262s that fly with GE engines, from a special project that build five. There are eight originals left in museums, plus a couple of reconstructions and two Czech-manufactured examples. One original has been painstakingly restored for short flights, but not flying just yet until new owners can complete the final work.
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  447. + Dan Batesy No authentic Stuka has flown since WW2, but there are a couple of scale replicas around. Paul Allen's museum is constructing the first flying Stuka, but work had to be stopped when Allen passed away. Allen's collection was recently sold to new owners.
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  448.  @mark_sugar42  There are four flyable new-build Me-262 from a project that constructed five examples. One WW2 original has been painstakingly restored to fly but work is currently paused and the project is with a new owner.
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  449. + CPFS The Me-262 surrendered by Fey did crash in Ohio in 1947 during a comparison flight with a P-80. It suffered an engine failure or fire and the pilot had to bail out.
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  450. + Delisa Pancheco It is a SNJ-5 from the Condor Squadron display team, painted in German markings..
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  451. +@michaelhickin Only around 300 made it to combat while the majority of the rest were destroyed on the ground in bombing raids.
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  452. + Suflete Pe Doua Roti Henry Coanda's device is a ducted fan, not a jet engine.
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  453.  @miketheweaver923  It is my understanding that an engine was off and disassembled. If they had a spare perhaps it could have flown. I'm not sure if if could have flown out on four or five engines without problems.
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  454. +@iluvgtasan The Fw-190 was removed from Russia over 30 years ago and before Google Earth.
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  455. +@spinnetti It does have the same colors that were on it when it went down. 4./JG54 colors for July 1943, documented after the plane was cleaned and by photos of some of the other Fw-190s from 4./JG54.
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  456. +@TongorBlackHawk В самых нижних частях двигателя имелись откачивающие насосы для удаления масла.
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  457. +@postaboks New-build airplane with GE engines.
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  458. +@robertbalazslorincz8218 At least two of the Flugwerk replica Fw-190s do fly with P&W R-2800 engines.
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  459. + Logan Brownlee The design goal of the 229 program was to produce a bomber, not a fighter.
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  460. +@Turkoktonos1 I'm counting maybe ten Yak-9 survivors, but none that are flying.
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  461. + Leeseter He spent the war as POW in Canada. The records say repatriated in February 1946.
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  462. + Ken Harvey See the He-274.
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  463. +@theblackhand6486 Pilot Paul Rätz had been a ground mechanic who trained as a pilot. He was very good in ground attack and his plane was the Fw-190A-5/U3 that was factory modified for ground attack. His mechanic training was very useful when the Russians took him prisoner and he made himself useful working for them as an electrician until he was released in 1949.
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  464. + A LLegendly The 1930s isolationist foreign policy by many nations, including the US, let it happen.
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  465. +@Steve-qu3jk Correct, that Bf-109G was fresh from restoration and then delivered to the owner in San Antonio, TX.
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  466. +@zippytpinhead847 As configured I believe the GE CJ610s are making about 2400-2500lbs thrust, verses about 1900lbs for the original Jumos.
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  467. + Nighthawk 67 Hans Mutke's Me-262 experience sounds more like he got it into transonic buffeting and lost control. Not supersonic flight.
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  468. +@broderickwallis25 JG54 painted over the factory greys for their summer forest camouflage on the Eastern Front. The colors are correct.
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  469.  @bb1040  Another angle shows he got it in the dirt just before takeoff. It was squirrely when he got it up. It also looks like he got a running start from a parking lot, then hooked a right directly into a takeoff roll. Dumb all the way around.
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  470. +@tubyduby2816 The 229 effort only yielded three prototypes with the first one being a glider. The program was over when the second jet-powered prototype crashed in February 1945 killing the test pilot. (After only two hours of testing.) The third prototype (which survives today) was captured still incomplete in mid-April 1945. The 229 program was not very far along.
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  471. + J. Nilsson Usually, they represent a victory or shooting down a German plane. You can find them on bombers that shot down a fighter. Other symbols will mark the dates of missions or destruction of a ground target.
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  472. +@noodels_productions He is not correct with four flyable Bf-109s. The number is closer to nine or ten flyable examples, although some are down for service and repair. There are a decent number still in restoration but the flying population will always be small from lack of engine spares. There are three flyable Bf-109E with two more rebuilds in progress. The rest are Bf-109G, and some are Buchon conversions.
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  473. +@davidwarren9204 You are very incorrect. It is painted with the 4./JG54 colors for Summer 1943 on the Eastern Front and this aircraft last flew with 4./JG54 "White A." These are the colors that were on the aircraft when it last flew. Experts disagree on the RLM paint codes used in the restoration, but this is hard to figure out because in 1943 the RLM was renumbering the paints and field testing new camo patterns.
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  474. +@user-zu5vi6xs4t Repair requires removing the wing from the B-17. And there are several FAA directives regarding the B-17 wing repair and it would be more economical to just replace the entire wing spars and mount structure. Doable but very expensive for B-17 operators.
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  475. +@chrissnape9537 The Fw-190 does not have a second seat. (Although a few Fw-190S two-seat trainers were made during WW2.) Paul Allen's sister did not honor his wishes to continue funding the museum, and removed it (and other museums) from his estate. Another very wealthy investor has bought Allen's museum and is getting it back open, although there may be plans to relocate in future years.
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  476. + Saucerman1 I am seeing that it was flown to the UK in 1968 for the movie production company but I not know if it was flown in the film.
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  477. +@benbailey7924 Only a partial fuselage of a Do-217 remains in Italy. Nothing else.
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  478. +Andreas Giasiranis Yes, crashed and repaired. Retired to museum display, which was the original plan for it.
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  479. +@brianbozo2447 No, a well-known UK collector exported a lot of aircraft out of Russia just after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Fw-190 was first sold to another UK collector who started work on it before selling it to Paul Allen in the US.
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  480. +@GAXALAYCOR31 The final rebuild was a multi-million dollar project. They located six core engines for enough parts to build a working one.
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  481. + Rob Noxious Nothing is usually moved until they catalog and photograph everything, along with documenting ground marks to compare with video evidence, direction of travel, etc.
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  482. +@Whatdyoumean Hobbyists and professional machinists are slowly digitizing the parts for these engines for fun or to remake new parts. I can see a time in the future where you can buy a highly detailed, 3D printed model of these engines in some scale that you can build and display, although I can see that they would still be very expensive.
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  483.  @Whatdyoumean  I was following a hobbyist who had half a Merlin and was 3D printing the missing components in his spare time. But I haven't kept up in several years. There is a hobbyist in Europe who has machined a BMW 801 for a static project, obviously not flight certified. He may be working on the DB series too.
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  484. +@mikehillas The Soviets copied and built the Jumo 004 and BMW 003 turbines for their early jet designs. The engines and the German aircraft were already outclassed by newer designs by the late 1940s.
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  485. +@richardcooke5415 The odds are high that the cockpit in this example could be missing some items, similar to the Me-410 that is incomplete internally. Both an R-4 and D-5 are now in restoration and hopefully will be fully correct when complete.
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  486. + tjp353 The Germans had a very organized salvage system for downed aircraft. Each crash was visited by a group of around 15 men who inspected and organized parts for salvage and recycling. Rubber and metal were recycled. Any remaining Allied fuel was saved to be used in captured aircraft. Engines and weapons were sent to one of several repair depots to be repaired as spares for captured aircraft or to be sent out as training aids for technical schools. So the Germans had a few Merlins laying around.
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  487. +@LordDigz12 A sloppy mechanic was also a theory of mine. The plane did have a recent engine change before it was lost. The last mission was only a 15-minute flight near the German lines, and it was returning back to the Luftwaffe base. Pilot Ratz was trying to make his way back to the Germans when he was taken prisoner.
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  488. +@DawleyDude It is somewhere close to 80 percent original metal. The first owners stripped it to use new skins but Paul Allen wanted to use the original skins in the restoration. The wing leading edges are new. A cracked wing spar cap was replaced. It sat in the mud, so some lower skins and lower cowling are new. There was crush damage where the wing mated with the fuselage that needed to be repaired. The tailplane is new. Somebody stole an aileron and the original control stick. The sliding canopy was replaced with a WW2 original from several NOS canopies that were fished out of a lake. The restoration team looked at the original drawings they had and found a few areas that were actually out of factory specification and those were corrected. The original radio was restored to operating condition. The original engine was cooked blue from damage when it was examined. Six core engines were located to build a flyable engine. The original sand-cast wheels were used with new tires made as original. New electrical wiring was manufactured with the cotton wrapping to be WW2 original. Many other new items on the aircraft were manufactured to be period original. The cockpit is original with only a couple of modern gauges for safe flight. The paint pattern is original to this JG54 aircraft, although I will have to agree with critics that the tones may be a little incorrect. Much of this restoration was done in secret and this is how Allen restored many of his aircraft, so there is very little published information available about it. Paul Allen spent somewhere close to $10 million (plus or minus) to make this restoration correct.
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  489.  @StuckOnAFireHydrant  I haven't followed Lex's F4U, but I see that it has been through several owners so I'm not sure if Lex still owns it. It seems to have moved around between California and Washington and was supposed to be in Texas for rebuild to flying.
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  490. +@gameboy3800 The T80 car still exists in a museum with the DB-603.
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  491.  @gameboy3800  I believe you are correct that the DB603 was removed for wartime use.
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  492. +@Steven-lx2yv It was only in service from May 1943 until 19-July-1943 on the Eastern Front flying ground attack missions.
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  493.  @alparker8661  The Planes of Fame Me-262 was bought by Paul Allen's museum as a candidate for airworthy restoration. It was also the former Howard Huges Me-262. Jeremy Moore and his group at JME Aviation in the UK were selected to restore the airframe. (JME had previously rebuilt Paul Allen's beautiful Fw-190A.) The Jumo engines were rebuilt at Aero Turbine in California, using at least seven original cores and lots a new manufacture. Aero Turbine ran them until they broke, then fixed the problem and kept going over 10 years. Allen's Me-262 is not quite ready for flight since Allen passed away just before taxi trails began. There's still work to do under the new owners.
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  494. @donwright3427 An American "preservation group" used the Harlech P-38 to con people out millions in donations to save it. They never saved it and have never saved one single aircraft. Now the Harlech P-38 has been assigned protected status so it will remain in the sand until it rots away.
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  495.  @koczisek  Well I was wrong because it was removed the next day. So it sat in the surf all night getting pounded by the waves, which did a lot of damage. That's unfortunate.
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  496.  @koczisek  Probably FOX 35 just removing uncredited photo links from their channel, which they have to do.
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  497. +ringhunter100 Yes, something else was going on there. Or they just dipped a wing on landing and hit the approach equipment.
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  498. +Zekais Yes, I think the Horten brothers had a practiced sales pitch also, some of which continued in later years. In the interrogations by British Intelligence they made sure to mention how the V2 had demonstrated a better rate of climb than the Me-262 in a comparison flight.
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  499. +@@madmanmechanic8847 Both the unpowered glider V1 and the jet-powered V2 flew. Both were destroyed in crashes, with the V2 suffering a fatal crash after just two hours of testing. The V3 that is at the Smithsonian was incomplete when found and never flew. So the 229 program realistically only accomplished two hours of powered flight. Both the Horten brothers and Jack Northop designed their own flying wings independently and each deserve credit for their work.
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  500. +@PimSchouten All originals are in museums, except for one that is now in private ownership. There are four flying examples, constructed by a special project that built five for customers. The original engineering drawings were incomplete or unobtainable. It would be an unimaginable amount of money to restore an original with working Jumo turbines for nearly all museums. Billionaire Paul Allen used his fortune to sponsor his WW2 museum and he bought an original Me-262 to be restored to airworthy condition. It is not known how much he spent, and the plane is not quite ready while new owners take over Allen's museum after his death.
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  501. + Capt. Craig Lehrike The Russians packed up and carted off the manufacturing tooling for the Jumo 004 engine and built more of them badged as Klimov RD-10 turbines used in the Yak-15. The Russians built about 1200 RD-10 engines..
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  502. +@bis1254 The AAF did use the A-36 Apache in small numbers as a ground attack and dive bomber before phasing them out.
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  503. +@klausdemuth3572 Der Prototyp Me-262 hatte ein Spornrad.
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  504. + Peter Kemma No original Stuka is flying. One project for a flying example is in progress, but new owners are taking over.
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  505. +@3mporio The surrender terms signed by Germany included forfeit of all weapons and production.
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  506. +@TJTinerella NATGeo made the show, and yes it was bad. Although the guys at the Northrop model department should get good credit for building the mock-up.
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  507. +@geoffmorseby4266 Twenty-one replica Fw-190s were manufactured and sold as kits for buyers to complete. The example you saw is one of the kits. About eight of those are flying, some others were used for museum examples or just not finished. There is exactly one WW2 original Fw-190 that is flyable in the US and a second is almost complete before test flying in the US.
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  508. + Del fuego off road The Lake Mead B-29 is under control of the US Parks Service, so chances are slim that they would allow a recovery. Such a shame while the water levels are so low. There isn't any need to leave it down there.
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  509. + @robertotamesis The RAF had several captured Fw-190s, but only one was an A-3. That example was landed at an RAF Pambrey by mistake by Oblt Arnim Faber in 1942 when he became disoriented after combat. It was used a test aircraft but was written off in 1944 I think.
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  510. + @Devistater100 7-July-1944 and the bodies of both crewman are still in the B-25. The pilot and the girl were only married a few months.
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  511. + @shrekogre1010 Video showed a missile from an aircraft. Expensive hardware to use just for a balloon, but hard to get an aircraft into gun range at 70,000 feet.
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  512. @alexwild4350 You are correct that the BoB film decided to use models for the movie. The producers discussed getting the surviving Stuka that used to be at St. Athan running and flyable, but even by the 1960s the aircraft was too rare and fragile to attempt any flying.
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  513. +@DeleteExistence A special project constructed five new examples for collectors and four are flyable with GE engines. One original restoration is being prepared for short display flights.
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  514. +@stephenwarhurt6615 The colors are correct for the aircraft for 4./JG54 on the Eastern Front for Summer 1943. It is painted in the colors that were on it when it went down in July 1943.
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  515. + Robert Mansfield What altitude and airspeed are you assuming that the plane lost engine power? It's a 10,000lb aircraft and can drop like a brick. And how much energy was lost diagnosing the problem and positioning for a safe emergency landing?
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  516. +theothertroll They were found in 45 years of compacted snow.
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  517. @ I think you mean the Ju-390, which only existed as prototypes.
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  518. + @M G I think they were just trying to pirate Western TV. Looking for reruns of Dallas.
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  519. +@hiddentruch1982 Asylum was rejected by many countries until he went to Argentina.
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  520. +UAL320 Educational displays are permitted.
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  521. +@danmarsden4609 A rare Do-17 was raised from the waters and it is slowly being cleaned and preserved for display.
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  522. +Martine Davies The Stuka in Croatia is in their territorial waters and is Croatian property. There was initial talks of raising it but more recently it has been left as a dive attraction. Not the best outcome but there is little interest or capability to raise it and restore it there. There is a new-ish Croation preservation group so maybe it will be saved one day. Maybe a collector will make a trade for it one day too.
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  523. Would soda blasting or dry ice blasting save you the sanding time in the paint process? Great work.
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  524. +@Everyonelov_Games Production for the new A-8/N finished a long time ago with twenty-one examples made. Not all of them are flying. The Flugwerk company is no more and Gosshawk in the US now owns the parts and jigs.
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  525.  @Xlaminator  Approximately nine airworthy with DB engines, but some of those are down for repair and work. Another will fly in a few years, raising the number to ten. And another dozen or so in very slow rebuild with hopes to fly.
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  526. +@astonmartin8705 After the BoB filming the CASA 2.111 were put up for sale and did not find many buyers, so they were scrapped. The Buchons found homes though. Regarding the Me-262, it is new-build although I would not say "vastly improved." The GE turbines give it a lot more power and fuel economy, but they are operated with settings to equal the Jumo turbines with reserve power available. The new Me-262s have modern brakes and a few corrections to design flaws. Per the FAA notes, they are limited to 500 mph for safety, mainly because they are copies of a one-generation WW2 design that still has flaws.
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  527. +Anthony Tolhurst The original plan was to retire it for permanent display. The pilot flipped it on the last flight after an in-flight emergency, but it was repaired and retired for display per the original plans.
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  528. +@tonygreen8629 The third V3 prototype is what survives at the Smithsonian. It was about 50% complete when it was captured at the Gotha workshop on or about 14-April-1945. The US gave it to the British to study over the summer of 1945 and by August the British returned it to the US. Also inside the Gotha workshop were the frames for the V4, V5, and V6 (there are photos.) I'm guessing those were destroyed in place. The British attempted to find the remains of the V1 and V2 which had both been destroyed in testing accidents, but they were not found.
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  529.  @johnmurray4918  Witness accounts are that they spent a long time using compressed air to blow moisture out of the magnetos, and had difficulty getting #4 to start. So wet mags are a possibility or a contributing factor.
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  530. +@markpearce1093 Jim Pearce recovered the Fw-190 and a lot of other aircraft. He passed away in 2017. (I do see your last name in case you know this already.)
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  531. +@MichaelCampin The underwater environment is hostile in the Channel with strong currents. There would be little left other than large forgings and engines.
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  532. +@user-gj5xd5dp2f This is one of several new-build Me-262s with GE CJ 610 turbines that were made by a special project. There is one WW2 original Me-262 restored to fly with Jumo turbines but it's not ready for flying yet, but has taxied a few times. It has new owners and I would say that if they complete it, then it will probably just make short display flights.
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  533. +@meofnz2320 I believe the Arnold brothers were the first owners in the UK and they had already started the restoration with new skins before Allen bought it. Allen wanted to use the original skins, although I don't know if the paint was intact by then. The cleaned aircraft in the Arnolds' workshop was interesting and you could see the original JG54 paint after the grime had been removed.
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  534.  @smith4496  The rear of the aircraft has a cargo ramp and the turbulence in the back is dangerous without a harness. There are a lot of possibilities, none of which are the second pilot leaving the controls to push the other out.
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  535. +@wwb7091 Speaking of Richard Bong, this wreckage of his original P-38 "Marge" was found in the jungle in Papua New Guinea this year. It went down in 1944 while being flown by another pilot, who parachuted out and survived.
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  536. + William Beck The British captured this example new from the factory after it was rebuilt from D-5. I wonder if it would have the cannon installed while it was still at the factory. There is one intact cannon pod in the world, so it would not be impossible have some duplicates manufactured to install at the museum.
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  537. +@EnergyXyz The original Luftwaffe combat report recorded the loss as anti-aircraft, but no battle damage was found on the wreck.
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  538. +@grayharker6271 Are you talking about the Brewster F4U-1? The pilot parachuted out but was killed. A private owner fought with the USN over the wreck for years, but Congress stepped in and gave it to him. It's finally restored and flying again.
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  539.  @scottanddebranelson8419  I have not heard much about how the sale and removal happened. I remember some photos of it hanging in a sling under a helicopter and then sitting on a truck. I've seen a list of the aircraft exported by Pearce from Russia, but that was 20 years ago.
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  540. +star1923 Those freshwater lakes should have some nice examples on the bottom. Everything that is in Lake Johnsvatnet should come out and some should be made airworthy.
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  541. +@wrichard11 The Loch Doon Spitfire crash was fatal with the pilot's body never found. I think for the other fatal accidents the bodies of the pilots were found at the time.
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  542. +@gredchijoff9959 None. Only partial remains of the Me-209 prototype survive in Poland.
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  543. +@charlespotter769 The Fw-190 passed away in the same year that it was filmed in the Russian forest. His family knows that the plane was restored.
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  544.  @stearman456  Higher demand for scrap metal has driven scrappers to look for those aircraft. The mining and logging companies will just bulldoze them out of the way.
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  545.  @adamestes5227  The P-38 still wears hear paint from the war which is rare. They have a B-25 in original paint that is getting work.
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  546.  @adamestes5227  Sorry, yes "Flak Bait." As for other stored aircraft, if they were repainted by the Allies then they should be stripped and returned to original service paint. I fear that the Ta-152 may languish in those layers of paint and never be returned to correct Luftwaffe paint.
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  547. +@fritzedlwei8316 Not really a patina since the plane was covered in UV-oxidized paint and grime. The first owners washed it and carefully documented the JG54 camouflage and then started a restoration with new skins. When Paul Allen bought it, he decided to preserve as much skin and original aircraft as possible. It is a fantastic restoration, although a few bits could have been done better.
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  548. +@9abuilder There is exactly one intact Typhoon on static display. And there are at least three projects working to build more, some to airworthy condition if the Sabre engines can be operated safely. There are not many Sabre engines left, so it's amazing that there are three projects.
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  549. +@stevewayne1359 The FAA notes in the airworthiness certificate give their opinion on the new Me-262s. The FAA points out that the Me-262 was a one-generation platform that was rushed into service without the trails and revisions to correct any flaws. Airframe vibrations, un-commanded control-reversal, and controllability problems at high speed were noted during WW2. The FAA notes that the project to build the new Me-262s has correctly created a clone of a WW2 Me-262 with all of the flaws, combined with an engine choice that makes it an over-powered airframe. The higher-thrust engines could exacerbate any problem situation, and the FAA wanted to limit the airspeed to 500 mph.
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  550.  @stevewayne1359  I consider the sequential serial numbers merely a symbolic gesture from Messerschmitt. WW2 provenance is a sticky subject in warbird rebuilds, and I think this is why Flugwerk added WW2 original tailwheel units on the replica Fw-190s. Serious buyers want at least token authenticity. The Me-262s were a hard sell to customers. They put a limit of five examples to guarantee that the buyers would not lose money.
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  551. +@martin7955 The plane came down near the battle lines and the pilot was making his way back to the German lines when the Russians took him POW. He worked for them as an electrician while prisoner and he went home in 1949. He died before his plane was restored.
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  552.  @peterson7082  It was the Japanese who began researching radar-absorbing and radar-disrupting aircraft coatings starting in 1943. This was to confuse long-range radar for IJN aircraft. They were basically mixing powdered compounds into paint and testing it with radar. The Japanese researchers were interrogated but had destroyed a lot of their notes. I would argue that for the historical record, perhaps the Japanese should be credited with early stealth concepts.
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  553.  @Bryster51  A shop in California will testing a Jumo 213 soon, but it's unclear if or when it will by hung onto the owner's aircraft. The same shop just finished a Jumo 211.
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  554. +Michael McKinnon The plane went down on a maintenance flight and the pilot perished in the desert. The pilot flew in the wrong direction and ignored instructions to turn around.
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  555. +@tjrludicke There is more than one flying Mossie. A workshop in NZ recreated the production jigs and they have been rebuilding several.
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  556. +@fuel2big The Ta-152 is not a Fw-190- it's a new airframe. However, some of Ta-152 prototypes were constructed with cannibalized Fw-190D airframes.
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  557. Sit next me on a plane with that and I'll haul you back to the door myself.
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  558. +@nivid01 It is painted in the camo that was on it when it last flew in combat for 4./JG54. The pictures in the forest only show multiple layers of paint that are very weathered.
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  559. + LW43 Real only as series of different prototype designs. There was no final production design - it was still a research and prototype project.
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  560. +Fermiticus There were no B-29 raids over Germany. There was no formal agreement between the US and Russia for damaged B-29s from Japan to make emergency landings in Russia. The US asked but Stalin did not answer. Three damaged B-29s made emergency landings in Vladivostok, Russia. The US asked for them back, but Russia kept them and made copies into the TU-4.
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  561. +@davidhirschhorn2960 Most aeroengines are dry-sump and pressure-lubricated. Scavenge pumps will collect and circulate the oil back to the reservoir. In the DB engines, there are scavenge pumps in lowest part of the engine in the rocker covers to collect the oil that flows there as well.
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  562. + burning24 That is pretty much the He-274. France kept and flew both He-274 prototypes as research aircraft until the early 1950s.
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  563. +William Wood Propeller choice was always a compromise between engine output, drag, and the desired mission of the aircraft. Paddle-blade would offer better high altitude performance. The Luftwaffe did use paddle-blade on some aircraft. https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Fw-190D/JG26/images/Focke-Wulf-Fw-190D13-Stab-JG26-Yellow-10-Kdr-Franz-Gotz-WNr-836017-Weiche-Germany-1945-03.jpg
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  564. +@Adrianmazda6 They were gathered in Arizona for a possible invasion of Japan, which did not happen. The Arizona boneyards were turned into large scrapping locations, even for brand-new aircraft.
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  565. + dehoe disc Also it was too expensive to fly all of the aircraft home so they were scrapped in place. B-17s were staged for the possible invasion of Japan but with no need for them they were scrapped in Arizona. The war was over and that generation wanted to move on so with the new jet age it was inevitable that those planes would be forgotten. The ones which survive today were pressed into National Guard duties or foreign service. One speculator bought B-17s and sold the gas left in them, because the fuel was worth more than the planes. In the Soviet territory, Statin was eager to modernize the Russian military and he explicitly ordered everything scrapped for raw materials for new production.
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  566. +Pottinger's Human The Smithsonian performed lab samples on the wood and the glue and there was nothing special about it, no special charcoal. Just urea formaldehyde and phenol formaldehyde glues which were plywood glues from that time period. Forgotten is that the intakes and engines were covered in raw welded steel panels--not really stealthy materials.
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  567. +@nextminvideos There are partial remains of a Me-323. One Fw-200 survives, being restored as a civilian transport aircraft. The large Heinkel He-274 prototypes were being built in France, and the Germans tried to destroy them as they fled but failed. France finished construction of one of them and flew it for high altitude research until the 1950s when it was scrapped.
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  568. +Cali_Boy19 What is known is that the pilot intentionally flew in the wrong directing and ignored instructions, and the plane traveled beyond its fuel range. So without the proper examination that the plane was not given in Eqypt, there is no way to know if it was show down, used for target practice, or if the pilot attempted to destroy it with a grenade.
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  569. + John Monnin The Jumo 211F and prop were too heavy for the Bf-109. It was a pig to fly according to pilots. Still I would like to see one example in the air.
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  570. +@buggs9950 The prop can still windmill. When they inspected the original engine, the insides were scorched blue from heat damage, so it definitely had oil loss problems. They also didn't find any battle damage. For the restoration, they managed to find six other engines for usable parts to build a working one.
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  571. +@starzkream The original factory serial number is unknown. But it is a surviving captured aircraft.
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  572. +@BroccoliRocks BMW and Mercedes used slave labor during the war, which is why today they steer clear of getting too involved with WW2 aircraft restorations.
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  573. +@s.marcus3669 Dude, there is a single surviving Avia S.199 in Israel on display at the Israeli Air Force Museum, Hazerim and it is not flyable. Only three S.199 survive in the entire world and none of them fly.
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  574. B S The first P.1065 V1 Me-262 test airframe was fitted with a Jumo 210 piston engine in the nose. But I cannot figure out that single turbine unless someone has been doctoring the picture. Or if it is photoshopped.
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  575. + Verne Arase It wasn't designed as a fighter and it wasn't sold to Goering as a fighter. Goering wanted a fast bomber and the design theories of tailless aircraft were that they were fast and fuel efficient. The Horten brothers were building a medium bomber.
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  576. @lesames3743 They are all rare, maybe except for the P-51 because of the number of survivors. Do you mean the rarest existing or rarest flying? Many one-of-a-kind examples are still in dusty storage at the Smithsonian.
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  577. + George Muller The Lake Mead B-29 is under authority of the US Park Service. I think the attitude is to treat it as a permanent monument instead of an aircraft wreck that's going to pollute the lake.
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  578. +@tolik5929 The first prototype V1 was an unpowered glider, and it was tested until it was destroyed in a landing accident. The second prototype V2 did fly with jet engines but only for about two hours of testing before a fatal accident. That was all of the flying that was accomplished by the 229 program. The third prototype V3 was incomplete when found and never flew.
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  579. +@MaxKrumholz It was my understanding that the Russians captured and relocated the tooling and manufacturing machinery for both the BMW 003 and Jumo 004 and relocated them back into Russia. I have not come across any written information about performance or metallurgy with the Klimov-manufactured copies in Russia.
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  580. +@timjones6355 The only surviving Do-17 was raised from the waters in the UK and is being cleaned and restored for static display.
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  581. +Frank Bishop The 229 program only flew a glider and the second prototype with jet power, which crashed after two test hours. Both were different designs. That is as far as the Hortens got with their work. There was no 229, just another prototype that wasn't finished when it was found at the Gotha factory. The Nortrhop designs were also unstable and only modern computerized flight controls could counter the instability.
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  582. + Michael Coughlan The Condor should definitely come up to join the only other surviving example.
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  583. +@hiepke1 The Germans have no claim to it. One exception is US Navy aircraft wrecks which the Navy still claims under sections of Maritime Law.
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  584. +@g-man7938 Northrop was given the contract to build the large flying wing (YB-35) in 1941 and started immediately, several years before the start of the 229 program. The B-2 Spirit is the continuation of the YB-35/YB-49 program.
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  585. @user-mc1er9li5n Продан и вывезен из России в Великобританию для начала реставрации. Перепродан миллиардеру Полу Аллену, который использовал свое состояние, чтобы восстановить самолет до первоначального состояния и годности к полетам. До его смерти оно хранилось в музее Пола Аллена в США. Музей и коллекция Пола Аллена были проданы другому коллекционеру-миллиардеру, который снова открывает музей. Пол Аллен также восстанавливал летную годность «Штуки», используя обломки, доставленные из России, хотя этот проект еще не завершен.
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  586.  @ВалераСметанин-ж4в  В начале 1990-х годов в России и во всем мире было очень мало специалистов по реставрации редких немецких самолетов. Группа экспертов в Великобритании восстановила самолет. Двигатель был восстановлен экспертом по двигателям в Калифорнии. Сегодня россияне проделывают большую работу, особенно с летающими Ил-2. Россияне также работали над некоторыми самолетами A6M Zero, которые летают сегодня.
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  587. +@user-ci8mm7wu4s Not all of that is correct. The Fw-190 was lifted from the forest by helicopter (there are pictures) and then moved by truck. During transport somebody made off with an aileron and the original control stick from what I remember. This was a short flight to the front lines and the pilot was taken POW by the Russians while trying to get back to the German lines. He survived the war but did not live long enough to see his plane restored. Several items were taken from the plane, including guns, master compass, clock. No, the wreck was not sold for 1 or 2 million dollars. It wasn't worth that much in the 1990s as a wreck and Paul Allen bought it from the UK owner for much less than that. He then spent several million restoring it to original condition.
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  588. +@alexleungkaipong The only surviving piece of an Me-323 is a tube frame from a main wing spar.
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  589. +Jesse Merriam Contaminated fuel was ruled out fairly quickly because other planes had taken fuel from the same source.
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  590. +@TinaHollner Inertia starters were used on German and Allied aircraft. Sometimes it was available as an emergency backup start.
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  591. + Diamond Light Engine problems. No power, no fly.
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  592. +@grobsop6688 That is not correct because 4./JG54 painted their Fw-190s in forest camo for the summer of 1943 on the Eastern Front, and traces of the paint were documented when the plane was washed and cleaned.
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  593. + @whatfreedom7 The Chinese have over 250 sophisticated and reliable satellites that can do more daily surveillance than one balloon randomly drifting in the jet stream. It also drifted all the way across Canada and they didn't bother with it. The USN will fish it out of the ocean and everyone can get a look to see what it was.
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  594. + Spartan 515 I am reading that at least one of their Bf-109 examples was taken apart for an engineering analysis.
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  595. +@theblackhand6485 The markings are correct for 4./JG54 for Summer 1943. This was "White A." There are old photos of the plane after it was cleaned in the UK to document the original colors. Historians argue over the actual RLM paint codes that were used in the restoration and in 1943 the RLM was switching those numbers around.
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  596. +@MA2-o2l It is new-build and one of four that are flyable with GE CJ610 turbines. (Think of it as over-powered Me262 because that what it is.) Billionaire Paul Allen's museum has an original restored Me-262 with overhauled Jumo 004 turbines that is still in ground testing before test flights. As your say, Allen had a turbine company in CA build the Jumo 004s to higher standard. Allen passed away and the Me-262 work is in limbo while new owners get his museum operational again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPazuFQZE3o
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  597. +Pete Gromov German aircraft names were allocated by the RLM. "Ho" for Horten or "Go" for Gotha, etc. Gotha had been selected to actually manufacture the production model, and the third prototype was a Gotha design mostly. So following the naming standard the factory model would have been the Go-229. But this project never got past the prototype and design concept phase. The Horten brothers called their project the Horten H.IX and each prototype was assigned a V number, V for Versuch (loosely translated as "attemp" or prototype.) Three prototypes were produced V1, V2, and V3. The V3 survives today although again it was largely designed by Gotha, hence some are calling it the Go-229 V3.
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  598.  @petegromov9037  Gotha had partially constructed the V4, V5, and V6 inside their workshop but they were just tube frames. And I'm assuming that the US forces that overran the Gotha workshop likely destroyed those prototypes in place.
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  599. +opoXlous Educational displays are allowable.
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  600. @olivepetroski4205 The Stuka on the coast of Croatia is one of three Italian AF Stukas that were shot down while attacking ships.
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  601.  @oliverpetroski4205  There was some initial interest in raising it. But I don't there is enough interest or capability in Croatia and the aircraft is their property unless someone arranges to export it (unlikely.)
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  602.  @oliverpetroski4205  Correct and it gets more complicated with international paperwork because you are more or less by definition moving a "weapon of war" which makes your customs and import permits much more interesting. Not long ago the US Govt. seized a restored aircraft during import because somebody lied on the paperwork.
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  603. +@AlbertRobinson-v3y The V3 prototype at the Smithsonian was designed by Gotha. It was captured incomplete at the Gotha workshop at Friedrichroda in mid-April 1945. If the Smithsonian had not let it sit outside in the weather for 20 years inside a moldy wooden create it would be a lot easier to preserve today.
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  604. +Taylor Craid Newbold It had flown safely for 20 years with dedicated people keeping it maintained.
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  605. + michel Guevara It was captured new in May 1945 and was tested at Farnborough. When they were finished, it was sent to RAF Museum St. Athens from 1960-1978. In 1978 it went to RAF Museum, Hendon. It was repainted in the 1970s, but I'm sure that the colors and markings are correct.
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  606. +@beachcomber1 able The camouflage is correct and was documented. It was flying with 4./JG54 in their forest summer colors on the Eastern Front, July 1943.
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  607.  @cbrvo8440  The Soviets captured and took Jumo engine tooling back with them and manufactured more Jumo 004s rebadged as Klimov RD-10 units. They might have changed a few things on them. So the Yak-15s were flying with Russian-manufactured turbines.
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  608. + russell According to your channel you own a moped.
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  609.  @DiscusRussell  Because there are currently only eight flyable G models registered to fly in the world, some of those down for repair. Six of those are with sponsored museums in Germany, Mr. Yagen owns one at his museum and Erickson flies one with an Allison. And there's G restoration to fly in France. I call BS on your BS.
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  610. +RedJive213 The FAA issued a new mandate for all Mustang owners to inspect and replace the failed parts with new ones immediately to remain airworthy.
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  611. +@marcg1686 I am aware of a K-4 project in Germany and possibly another but I have no information if those are airworthy projects. I suppose that finding the correct high power DB engine would be difficult.
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  612. +@gillesondonoughue5390 No flying Doras, but there two or three wrecks in private hands as projects. There aren't that many left. Some of the Flugwerk replicas will be converted to Dora standard, and there is one that was close to flying with an Allison engine. The Fw-190D-13 at Paul Allen's museum is "sorta" airworthy but would need more work to fly.
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  613. +@danmichaud7142 Dude....this plane was found in the forest 30 years ago. The serial number tells everything, that it was manufactured at the FW plant in Bremen in April 1943. It had a short service life with the Luftwaffe, last flying with 4./JG54 in July 1943. It was lost on 19-July-1943 with the pilot taken POW by the Russians and he lived to go home. Historians researched the aircraft as soon as it was exported from Russia and first to the UK.
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  614. +@Mike-kz4yv The first crash footage is 23-July-1944 at Spokane Army Airfield in Washington. Curtiss RA-25A aircraft were participating in a fly past for an airshow when they collided. The show continued after the fires were put out. Pilots 2nd Lt. George E. Chrep and 2nd Lt. William R. Scott were killed, along with passenger/engineers Sgt. Joseph M. Revinskas and Captain Ford K. Sayre.
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  615. +@PaulLeitnerWise Also the JG54 summer camouflage helped to conceal it in the wooded area.
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  616.  @PaulLeitnerWise  What do you mean by folded back?
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  617. @orangekayak78 There may be some in the Channel, but there are a lot of strong undersea currents there which would have ripped those planes apart just leaving heavy engines laying around.
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  618. +@DataWaveTaGo That photo of the 229 V3 is in Chicago in a Douglas aircraft hangar at Orchard Field (now O'Hare Airport.) Notice the other aircraft in the background. General Hap Arnold recommended preserving examples of foreign aircraft and since the AAF/Air Force was done with testing, notable aircraft were stored at Orchard Field while the remaining aircraft were scrapped or donated to some technical schools. It was around 1950 when those aircraft were donated to the Smithsonian so that the hangar could be used. There is one detail that is especially noteworthy about that picture. The 229 V3 has no control surfaces at all. It wasn't finished when it was captured. Any time someone wants to make an argument that the Allies tested the 229 just remember that it has no flight controls.
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  619. +haroldlamble5163 The engines were covered in steel fairings from front to back.
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  620.  @104thDIVTimberwolf  Two seat examples were certainly produced during WW2 and there are two surviving original two-seat examples in museums.
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  621. +@carlosnumbertwo There are two fuselage tanks.
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  622.  @biernut8723  You might be thinking of the six P-51s that were left in the nuclear test area of the Australian desert. They were recovered in the 1980s/1990s.
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  623. +callmeinstaid That B-17 has operated year-round safely for over 20 years with routine maintenance and required checks. It was getting more attention than most civil airliners and GA aircraft.
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  624. @slick_slicers If any buried aircraft are ever found they are still rebuildable even if flattened. Aircraft and other items were buried in all theaters of WW2, but keep in mind that scrappers were active through the 1950s and may have dug most of that material back up after the war. There are photos of piles of German aircraft there were burned and buried but salvage companies dug them up later.
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  625. + Neal Scroggs The NASM took lab samples of the adhesives and wood layers. I believe that they found two types of resin, including the phenolic resin. The wood samples only contained wood fibers in various states of decay and the adhesives and no carbon substances were found. The 229 program only produced three examples- a glider, and jet-powered example which flew but crashed after two hours, and the third prototype at the NASM that was never tested.
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  626. +@sashadala346 This discovery is 30 years old and correct. And all verified from the serial number from the plane and from the wartime Luftwaffe records.
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  627.  @sashadala346  Not recent at all. It's been known for years when the plane came to the UK in 1991.
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  628. +Jaime DelosRios The 229 was a prototype project with little demonstrated flight time. The V1 glider was tested until it was heavily damaged in a landing accident. The V2 prototype flew with jet power, but only for a couple of flight hours before an engine failure and fatal crash. That was it, and that was very little time to collect any information regarding capabilities. Speed data had not been measured before the accident and the brothers only mentioned that it demonstrated an excellent rate of climb. The V3 prototype that survives today never flew and was incomplete when it was found in the Gotha worshop. So the 229 program was not very mature with little capabilities shown. Everything else was calculations and estimates.
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  629. So was the Curtiss P-40.
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  630. +@vrosi1963 TIGHAR promised to recover it and took lots of money from people before they could make more money from Ameilia Earhart. TIGHAR has never recovered or saved a single aircraft. The P-38 now has local heritage status and it's not going anywhere.
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  631. + @Schlipperschlopper There are very few Me-110s left and just some wreckage. Three were pulled out of Russia, and the wreckage of one of those is in storage with a private owner and is said to be complete enough for a rebuild one day.
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  632. + daystatesniper01 Not as many as you would think. Stalin was eager to modernize the post-war Soviet military and he explicitly ordered the scrapping of everything including captured aircraft for raw materials. Although a respectable number of wrecks have come out of remote areas and a few intact aircraft still remain.
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  633. +@jjt1093 Only one WW2 airframe if flying. Several replicas are flying, from a batch of 21 new examples sold as kits.
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  634. +@samuelrichards7830 Wulfe Hund was scrapped at Oranienburg Airfield after WW2. Not long ago during cleanup of the area some large parts of Wulfe Hund were found, including the instrument panel with German instructions painted on it to identify instruments. There is a two-book series on captured Allied aircraft used by the Germans with serial numbers and what happened to them.
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  635. + claudio Corleone The unique area of real estate where those P-38s came down gets a sh*t ton of snow every year from the ocean---about six feet of snow on average, so it's no wonder they are so deep. Not really really a good metric for a global warming argument.
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  636.  @Crashed131963  The Me-309 was an unsuccessful search to replace the Bf-109, not a test platform for the Me-262. Though one of the early prototype Me-262s did have a piston engine in the nose.
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  637. +@clifftrimble2616 Galland did put on an impromptu air display in a Buchon while acting as a technical advisor for the Battle of Britain filming. RAF pilot Robert Tuck was also an advisor and was very good friends with Galland. It is well-known that the both of them went up together in a rare two-seat Buchon while on the movie set. That same rare two-seat example is now in the UK and is restored to fly again.
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  638. +@panzer4899 The swastika is not legal in some countries, and showing it or monetizing it will get your video blocked. It's just the law.
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  639. + okisgodhi At the end of WW2 jet engines were not reliable enough for service and did not have the range. There was a huge inventory of piston aircraft and they were used well into the Korean War or sold to export countries for their services.
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  640. +@randy4372 The paint is heavily oxidized from UV exposure. The colors and markings were documented and photographed after the plane was washed.
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  641. +@jakewallis5096 The symbol was explicitly banned in 1945 in Germany, and it is still banned with a few exceptions. It cannot be on a flying aircraft.
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  642. +@Cuccos19 A P-39 was raised from a lake in Russia years ago, with the remains of the young pilot still in the cockpit. It was ferry flight, and he had an engine failure and was probably knocked unconscious hitting the water. The pilot was given a full Russian military funeral, while the P-39 was cleaned and I think will be on display in the very building where it was manufactured in Buffalo, NY.
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  643. +@ashelocke5287 Sirens were not found on later model Stukas. Their low howl was a giveaway to anti-aircraft gunners so their usefulness was short.
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  644. +@richardkudrna7503 The surviving V3 prototype was unfinished when it was captured by Patton's forces, and it was designed and under construction in a Gotha workshop. It was covered with a green fireproof coating. The paint on the example in the Smithsonian was applied after capture and it's my opinion that it should be removed. Or, since the original wood is so rotted the museum should construct duplicate wooden structure and return the plane to the as-found condition.
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  645.  @richardkudrna7503  The Smithsonian sent samples for lab testing and only found rotten wood and glues in the samples. And again the V3 was an unfinished prototype when found and there are original photos from the Gotha workshop of the V3, V4 and V5. The claims of special coatings were only made decades later when stealth design was a topic.
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  646. +@marycampbell3431 It was legally exported by a well-known UK collector. The same collector exported a lot of German aircraft out of Russian in the 1990s when it was still friendly to do so.
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  647. USAF and NASA studies of the accident concluded that G-suits would have made no difference for this high-G incident, so the Reno racing rules will not be changed to require them.
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  648. + Plane Simple Looks like someone mixed up some video segments.
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  649. +@historex54tamiya The original paint was documented and is correct for 4./JG54 in July 1943. This plane was "White A."
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  650. +Daniel Blase They didn't build an exact copy, just a wood and fiberglass shape with missing details such as metal engine fairings. Small radar cross-section is inherit with a flying wing, but it was not designed for stealth.
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  651. +@fredgarv I think the museum said they will be back to flying in 2024. The Me-262 needs more testing before it can fly, and I had read some discussion before Allen passed away that the original plan was a few flights and retire it anyways. The museum may eventually move as you said.
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  652. + Minecraftwizzard2010 SNJ-5 in German markings.
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  653. +Phone One Four flyable Me-262 replicas were constructed with modern turbines. One WW2 original with original engines (some upgrades) is almost ready for test fights.
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  654.  @phoneone1371  There is nothing secret about the Me-262. In fact it was obsolete by the end of WW2 and eclipsed by newer designs. There are eight intact original Me-262s worldwide in museums. Number nine is a reconstruction in Germany, plus two Czech-made examples. Five replicas were constructed from a private project, with four prepared for flight for private collectors. One of the eight survivors has recently been restored for short flights by a well-funded private museum.
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  655. +@kubtord6865 Typically they would be removed, but laws vary. They may still have unstable ammunition. I think it is a complicated paperwork/permit process to keep original guns after they are demilled and made inoperative. The import/export and customs process to move a warplane or wreck is complicated and sensitive to government officials since it is still defined as a weapon of war. You can get into a LOT of trouble of you attempt to transfer an armed aircraft.
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  656. @kubford6865 I'm also remembering that the Bf-109E in the video was on the frozen lake for some time before it sank and that Luftwaffe mechanics were able to reach it and salvage what they could, including the guns before they came under fire. A passing Russian recon plane also strafed the Bf-109, and I think that was recorded in the Russian combat reports.
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  657. +@scottwilliams5503 Very nice to see some REAL history commenting. Art and Doug really saved that Dora before it was lost and getting help from Kurt Tank was a bonus. I hope you write down the stories and notes from your father.
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  658. +@sp8wn458 No pilot of any age could withstand the sudden G-loads in this accident. "Beyond human tolerance" were the words used by the NTSB.
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  659. +Moke Hogan Some unidentified bones were found nearby, but the MOD dragged their feet and let the Egyptians perform the DNA study with inconclusive results. Further action was not taken after the coup in Egypt. The plane has just been revealed in Egypt with fiberglass repairs and a rattle-can paint job.
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  660. +Dylan Taylor Lots of wrecks have been recovered and restored or used for parts.
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  661.  @dasboot5903  Not entirely sure that this audio is not dubbed by the BBC. It sounds like a gritty WW2 bomb recording.
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  662. +MrJohnnyDistortion Belly-landing on rough terrain.
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  663. + Mark12 Strang The 229 was not a wonder weapon. It was just a concept design for a flying wing bomber, and the remaining example is just the third iteration of the series.
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  664. +@Aampiano There are WW2 aircraft still in storage at the Smithsonian in original paint. The P-38 that is on display there was cleaned and preserved with the original weathered wartime paint still on it.
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  665. +@billyleroy2465 Russian soldiers took the pilot POW. It's possible they visited the aircraft or post-war souvenir hunters. I believe the upper machine guns were also missing. The plane went down near the battle lines. Typically the Germans marked the known location of their downed planes for recovery or salvage but this one was not removed.
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  666. +Harry Turner Project Consider that aside from inaccessibility, many of these remote wrecks are off-limits for removal.
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  667. +@hypercomms2001 It was built in 1956 with the S/N B.2H-25, then it was retired from the Spanish AF in 1967 and was one of the aircraft used for the Battle of Britain film.
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  668. +@CensoredUsername_ The 229 was being designed as a bomber, being a smaller prototype of what was to become a medium flying wing bomber. Parts of an armed variant was found in the Gotha workshop. Northrop had a similar yaw control problem with their YB-35 and YB-49 prototypes and yaw dampers were being added. Since the YB-35/YB-49 was designed as a precision, long-range bombing platform poor yaw control during aiming was not a good selling point. Northrop was adding yaw dampers when the program was terminated entirely.
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  669. +@apfelsnutz The fuselage of the Me-109V1 survives at the Muzeum Lotnictwa I Astronautyki, Krakow, Poland.
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  670. +@Δυσνομία A couple of points. 1) In 1991 after the fall of Russia, the Russians didn't care about the remainders of old WW2 equipment that were still around in remote places, and they were puzzled why Westerners were interested. (This changed later after their value was realized.) And 2) The Fw-190 was exported to the UK by a well-known collector who then sold it to another warbird collector who began to strip it down for rebuild. Later it was purchased by billionaire Paul Allen who wanted to keep the original skins and rebuild the aircraft to original condition and flyable. The originality was lost after it was stripped down in the UK.
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  671. +Skip Getelman Kee Bird would not have had a fire if they had fixed the APU instead of dumping gas all over it.
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  672. +@cylonmode Not fake and this was one of a group of twelve Fw-190s received by JG54 on the Eastern Front. It was still a fairly new aircraft when it was lost on 19-July-1943 in a remote area of Russia near the battle lines. The pilot was taken POW while trying to get back to the German lines and spent the rest of the war as a Russian prisoner.
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  673. +@mikeclevery7021 The GE turbines in this new-build plane are smaller but much more powerful. The installation makes them quiet. The only operational Jumo turbines on a new restoration do sound different and are much louder, comparable to early military jets.
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  674. +@wallywally8282 It's probable that the Russian soldiers that captured the pilot did visit the plane. It was close to the front lines. All things considered when you look at wrecks around the world that are picked apart and have graffiti, this Fw-190 was a pristine time capsule.
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  675. + Noah Johnson New groups are trying to recover the other P-38s. So perhaps the story of Glacier Girl is not fully written. If the other P-38s can be recovered and restored, having them all fly in formation again would be great to see.
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  676. +@louislamboley No, the markings are the same that were on the plane when it went down. "White A" 4./JG54 on the Eastern Front in July 1943, with the forest camouflage colors.
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  677. + The Puppy Channel The blueprints would also the engineering and material specs for strength. This is something you can't guess for a strong airframe.
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  678.  @TurboMountTV  But it took them over three years to do it. And they had to compromise on standards for materials and alloys, and adjust for metric measurements. Also it was a state-sponsored project because Stalin was desperate for a long-range strategic bomber in the post-war era. For Germany there would not have been any need to reverse engineer a Spitfire when they had planes that could keep pace with them already in production.
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  679. +@alfredshort3 There was a tank version of the DB-603. Two prototype tanks were built and tested. One survives in a Russian museum.
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  680.  @TheEulerID  Two Panzer VIII Maus prototypes were constructed for testing and were powered by MB509 V12 engines that were derivatives of the DB-603. The Soviets captured them and one survives at the tank museum in Kubinka.
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  681. +@grahamsmith8122 Fuel, oil, or unstable ammunition are always hazards for a wreck recovery.
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  682. +@frankward8336 There seems to be some debate about that nickname. I believe the Focke Wulf nickname for the Fw-190 was the "Würger" translated into "Shrike" from the bird family. The Shrike bird family has a particularly gruesome manner of killing their prey and are nicknamed butcher birds.
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  683. @scottwooster4102 The technical specification for the engines was written back in the 1920s if I recall. Future engine development should be inverted design with provision for a center fire cannon. Inverted engines work just as well as conventional. The advantages are better pilot visibility, easier maintenance (no ladders), and probably a slightly better thrust line.
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  684. + Matthew Jay The Smithsonian isn't really restoring it but giving it a Q-tip conservation with composite materials to replace the rotting wood. I don't agree with the approach but would prefer to see it returned to the condition it was in before the Smithsonian let it rot outside in wooden crate for 30 years. They should duplicate the rotting wood and return it to the half-finished and unpainted example as it was found in Gotha's small workshop.
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  685. +@johnshaft5613 I believe there are Russian records of it being strafed later before it sank through the ice, perhaps by a recon aircraft. There is also a cannon hole in a cylinder bank of the engine. I think Luftwaffe mechanics were able to reach it and salvage what they could, and it's possible they may have come under small arms fire.
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  686. +@hansfreekit Not discounting the possibility that the Luftwaffe mechanic that had recently changed the engine for a new one was sloppy and left a rag in an oil line.
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  687. +@uuuulyts Some of the aircraft recoveries from the South Pacific and Asia do very much follow an Indiana Jones script with corrupt officials, angry locals, shady paperwork and last-minute escapes.
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  688. + T-rex55 There are six P-38s under the ice, and two B-17s. One P-38 was recovered, and one or two groups are working to recover another one, although this is a very difficult task. I think they will all be recovered eventually.
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  689. +@FINNIUSORION It was shot down by the RAF on 26-July-1943. The bodies of 23 out 33 occupants are still in the wreck, so the crash probably has a war grave status and cannot be salvaged. A wing spar from an Me-323 survives in Germany and in decent condition. Perhaps in some future time, experts can construct a museum example from that.
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  690. +@badape3620 No Stuka has flown since WW2, but there is a scale replica flying. Two WW2 Stukas are under restoration to fly now, made difficult by missing engineering specs.
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  691. +@benardedwards8461 Paul Allens did not pay very much for the wreck when he bought it from the Arnold brothers in the UK. But Allen did spend somewhere close to $10M for the restoration, plus or minus. The selling prices for warbirds is always fluid and can be affected by global economic conditions when they are considered assets in someone's investment portfolio.
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  692. + RASTABOY The 229 program was designing a medium bomber per the requirements agreed to by Goering, who secured the funding. Stealth fighter is pure nonsense, and flying wing theory was based on aerodynamics and fuel efficiency.
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  693. +@ EIABEAAA I think it would be a good exercise for teams to map the aircraft in European lakes and identify them. Getting permission is sometimes impossible, but there should be a database of what rare types are in those waters and what can be saved. There is technology available to remotely disarm any bombs in them, but the fuel and small ammunition is still a risk.
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  694. + TheEvilBanana There was a variant of the Jumo 004 that was optimized for afterburning but it only added about 400lbs of thrust and did not reach production.
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  695. +@dave791 I'm agreeable to the sloppy mechanic theory. They had changed the engine on the plane recently.
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  696. +@19austen65 The pilot worked for the Russians as an electrician until he was released.
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  697. +@refub67 Good question. This example was a Ju87D that was recycled and configured as a Ju-87G. It was captured basically new from rebuild, so it's possible that the cannons had not been mounted. Maybe the RAF museum has them. If not, Paul Allen's museum has a complete cannon pod unit that could be used to copy new ones if there is money for it.
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  698. + keithpennock The Kommandogerät unit was on the BMW 801 radial. Jumo had a similar system called the Motorbediengerät. The DB engines may have a system, although I do not know what it is called.
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  699. +@leso204 The cannon does not fire through the crankshaft but through the vee of the engine cylinders and exits through a hollow propeller shaft. The prop is geared off of the crank for most aero engines.
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  700. +@GazzaBoo The first owners of the wreck in the UK started the restoration with new skins so the path was already set. Paul Allen bought it and decided to fully restore it to original condition, keeping the original skins where possible. I think it's about 80% original metal with some sections repaired. Everything that was replaced was remanufactured as original. There are some parts of the restoration that could have been done better, but I don't think any other collector would have spent the amount of money on it like Paul Allen.
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  701. +@AjitMD 8700 RPM.
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  702.  @markjames6669  The Stuka is another Paul Allen miracle from two wrecks out of Russia. There wasn't enough Stuka outside of museums for anyone to start a project and the much of the engineering data is missing. Allen put his money behind it and had engineers take 3D scans of the Stuka in the museum in Chicago and then had this contractors reverse-engineer the rest. They were putting it together when Allen died, and it will be the only flying Stuka since WW2. Allen's original Me-262 will be another miracle when it is finished. And there was more rare stuff that his museum was never able to being a restoration with.
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  703. The mystery has been solved after this plane disappeared. So the Egyptian AF Museum took it upon themselves to "restore" it. But proceeded to completely screw it up. Here is a picture: https://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=257969&stc=1&d=1514499790
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  704. +Frank Paya There is an APU generator in the back of the plane. The fuel pump was not working and instead of fixing it, they rigged up a fuel can above the APU. The fuel spilled and started a flash fire.
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  705. +Outlawflyer78 The NTSB report has not been completed.
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  706.  @widjojohuang7854  It wasn't a fighter, it was a series of prototypes to build a medium bomber. They didn't get far into the program before the end of the war--just three prototypes that were all different. The first prototype was a glider that flew until it was destroyed in a landing accident. The second prototype did fly with jet engines but only for about two hours of testing before a fatal crash on 18-Feb-1945. That is really as far the Horten brothers got before the war ended because the third prototype that survives today was not finished when it was captured by Patton's forces in the Gotha workshop. (Prototypes four, five, and six were also in the shop but they were barely started.) The goal of the 229 program was never "stealth." It was about speed and fuel efficiency, keeping with the flying wing and tailless aircraft theories from the 1920s and 1930s.
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  707.  @widjojohuang7854  Arguably, the F-117 was the first fighter designed specifically for stealth. For the invention of "stealth" I think that it could be credited to the Japanese in WW2. In the 1943, researchers and radar experts at Tokyo Engineering College began testing paint additives to reduce the long-range radar signatures of Japanese Navy aircraft. Various metal powders were added to the paint to confuse radar. Most of these notes were destroyed but US Naval Intelligence interrogated the researchers for info.
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  708.  @widjojohuang7854  Not undetectable, just a low signature because of the small cross-section. I'd argue that the tests that were done with the wooden model made by Northrop were not fully accurate because the real example from WW2 had a lot more metal in it and on the outside.
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  709.  @widjojohuang7854  The engine fairings were welded steel, front to back for heat protection. Plus the engine turbines and the welded tube frame. That's a lot of metal.
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  710.  @FrauUnibrow  They managed to find six engines for parts to build a working unit. The original engine was baked blue from losing oil. The airframe and skins is about 80% original with new lower skins, new leading edges, new spar caps, near tailplane. JME in the UK also compared the build quality to the factory specs and rebuilt some areas that were not correct when it left the assembly line. The original radio is working. Wiring, electrics and tires would be new for safety, although replacement items were remanufactured as original. The replacement canopy is WW2 original from a batch of NOS units that were fished out of a lake a long time ago. Somebody stole the original control stick during salvage so a replacement had to be located.
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  711. +@chriss-nf1bd Correct. The design theories behind flying wings before WW2 was low-drag and speed. This drove the ideas by Northrop, the Horten brothers, and others. Nothing about stealth.
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  712. + Alastair Archibald Four separate engines on the He-177 basically became the He-274 prototypes, and the Germans had to abandon both incomplete examples at the factory in France. The French built them and used them as high altitude research aircraft until the early 1950s when they were scrapped. https://hushkit.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/he274-7.jpg?w=830
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  713. + Justin Dyches It was shot down just off of the coast where the US Navy can use their salvage teams, and this is an easy job compared to recovering a lost aircraft.
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  714.  @justindyches5510  China has enough satellites (over 250) to get surveillance every few hours. A balloon for that doesn't add up but possible I suppose. Shooting it down in Montana? That's sacred-cow land just like Wyoming in the Close Encounters movie - it would just piss off the ranchers.
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  715. @adriaanboogaard8571 They weren't going to restore Kee Bird. It was a profit mission.
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  716. +@jerryrichards8172 It is restored to the original colors. They were just heavily oxidized from UV exposure in the forest. The plane was washed and photographed before any restoration work was started and it has the JG54 summer colors.
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  717. +kevin chetty That was the original plan but you need catch up on what happened to be disappointed.
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  718.  @josephhaddakin7095  The P-40 was recovered professionally and put into a shipping container for trade with the RAF Museum. It became of victim of the Arab Spring protests and the military coup in Egypt. When it emerged from hiding it was given the most hideous and unprofessional clean up imaginable.
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  719.  @davidroosa4561  The markings are correct and were documented when the plane was originally cleaned.
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  720. +@TheVverageWarThunderPlayers Göring gave the Horten brothers money to build a bomber. They constructed three prototypes but did not build a full-scale bomber.
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  721. + Joseph Baker An official ceremony had been planned to transfer the aircraft to the RAF Museum for display but with the military coup in Egypt the plans fell apart and the shipping container with the aircraft disappeared for several years. Not long ago the plane emerged on outdoor display in Egypt with the most hideous restoration job that could have been given to such a rare time capsule aircraft. That is how the story ended for the plane, and the body of the pilot was never officially found or identified.
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  722. +@ianbrett3276 The climate up in Russia is good for preservation. I have read that in past years the plane was covered in snow for much of the time.
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  723. +@markrix Gen. Patton's forces overran the Gotha workshop in Friedrichroda, Germany in April 1945. Inside they found the incomplete V3 (now at the Smithsonian) and the frames for the V4, V5, and V6. There are a few photos. And I'm assuming Patton's forces destroyed the V4-V6 in place. There were no wings for the V3 and some were found some 75 miles away. In the summer of 1945, the US didn't really want the V3 and they gave it to RAF Intelligence for evaluation. The RAF considered finishing it to fly with RR Nene engines but they did not fit. The British were also interrogating the Horten brothers that summer and attempted to locate the remains of the crashed V1 and V2 but were unsuccessful. By August 1945 the British were done with the V3 and gave it back to the US and it was on the shipping docks in NJ and then it went probably by train to Freeman Field with other captured aircraft. The V3 was not some mystical ready-to-fly machine - it was just an unfinished prototype. By 1947-1950 the AAF was scrapping/disposing captured aircraft and Gen. Hap Arnold had the wisdom to set a few aside. The V3 and other aircraft were relocated to an empty hangar near Chicago (now O'hare Airport). By 1950, those aircraft were donated to the Smithsonian. Unfortunately, the Smithsonian let the V3 set outside in a crate for almost two decades and moisture has rotted it to pieces. In my opinion, the Smithsonian should reconstruct it into the unfinished prototype as it was found.
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  724. + Kennynva KE4HVE At the Imperial War Museum, Duxford.
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  725. + @user-rj5cx4ku6w The 229 program was entirely about the 3x1000 requirement. That's how the Horten brothers convinced Goering to give them money - by promising to build him a fast bomber that would meet that requirement.
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  726.  saturatedsausage7398  In response to the 3x1000 request, the Horten brothers presented their H.IV glider to the RLM in 1943 as the starting platform to construct a powered version, and they were awarded the contract and money to begin design. The "Ho" and "229" were assigned to the project by the RLM as part of the contract.
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  727. +dogiit1 Everything you have said in the last five minutes is incorrect except for the remarks by the test pilot.
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  728.  @nickmitsialis  The comment author also said that the plane had a "water cooled" radial engine, which it did not at all. An easy error at a glance but if you understand the design of the Dora series and the fitting of the annular radiator arrangement with the Jumo V12 then you would not say that it had a water-cooled radial. The compromise was that Tank could not get the DB engines that he wanted from the RLM. But he designed the Dora to mount either engine with minimal cowling changes, which is very clever.
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  729.  @bubiruski8067  The Japanese were experimenting with paint additives to disrupt radar beginning in 1943, to reduce radar detection of Japanese Navy aircraft. So I think the Japanese should be given credit for the concept of stealth.
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  730. +@litestuffllc7249 The Flying Heritage museum was closed by Paul Allen's sister after his death (and against his final wishes.) It has a new wealthy owner, but flying operations have not started yet. Maybe in 2024.
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  731. +@danielbritton8588 The first owners in the UK started to restore it, but sold it to billionaire Paul Allen and his museum. Allen put his resources into the restoration, typically searching the globe for parts from private collectors. The work was sourced out to experts around the world. Missing items remanufactured as original when necessary, for example the planes electric wiring was remade to be like the original cotton-wrapped type from WW2. The broken canopy was replaced with a WW2 original from several brand-new units that had been tossed into a lake and found years later. Allen spent somewhere close to $10 Million to restore this plane, give or take a bit.
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  732. +John Reed The law in Germany allows the swastika to be displayed for educational exhibits such as museums or publications. Public display such as a flying aircraft could be considered "promoting" the symbol. The law seems to leave a lot flexibility for how fines and charges can be interpreted.
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  733. +@TimothyTimmons Those two are the only intact examples from WW2. There is wreckage/partial wreckage of six or eight more. Also Paul Allen's museum has used parts and wreckage from two examples to construct a flyable example, but it is not finished just yet.
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  734. +@roberthargrave3636 Northrop didn't rebuild the Ho-229. The took some measurements and built a mock-up shaped like the Ho-229 for some radar tests. They did not copy and build the structure for an aircraft.
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  735. +@SensitivityGames This is not a WW2 airframe. Five new Me-262s were constructed by a special project and four of those are flyable. There are eight WW2 original Me-262s in museums, plus some wreckage/reconstructions and two Czech-made examples from just after WW2.
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  736. +Skylar durrent There was a plan in place to display it as-is in an RAF museum. But the Egyptians did a horrible excuse of a restoration on it and ruined it.
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  737. +Greg Shaw The new build Me-262 that flies in Germany was constructed as a hybrid and can be configured as a single-seat or dual cockpit just by changing a few parts. It has a unique type assignment of Me-262 A/B-1c for conversion. Two of the new-build Me-262s from the project can be configured this way.
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  738. +William Eudy It is real. But the fate of the aircraft and the search for the remains of the pilot have not had an ideal outcome for the time being.
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  739. +@TominTucson50 During wartime there often wasn't time to excavate a crash but just clean up the surface debris. Today they are digging wrecks with the engine and unfortunate pilot several meters into the earth from a high energy crash.
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  740. +@hemantkohre3180 A special project built five new ones, four flying with GE engines. So the engineering is available to make parts.
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  741. +@perskjelbred7099 The wreck was rebuilt/repaired into a complete static display and is now on display at the Norwegian Aviation Museum at Bodø, Norway.
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  742.  @m1garand903  There is no Ho 229 in Area 51. Only one prototype exists and everything else was destroyed. The US gave the V3 to the British for study and they gave it back by August 1945. The British looked for the crashed V1 and V2 prototypes in the summer of 1945 but they were destroyed. The Allies never test flew anything. It was a milestone in flying wing study and design and nothing more.
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  743. +John Murrey I think it is already established that the aircraft struck the ILS instrument towers on the runway threshold. The NTSB is looking at the towers in the inspection video. https://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/images/made/upload/2019/10/ntsb-screengrab-bradley-runway-light-post-crash-b-17-20191002-720_720_381_99_sha-100.jpg
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  744. + KL0Wn KiLLeR The Cavanaugh Museum still has that aircraft but it is not airworthy any more.
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  745. +Chris Persson The pilot had some hours on it, but came in too fast on the emergency landing. The engine was quitting so he didn't have a go-around as an option.
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  746. +@toomanyhobbies2011 The Arnold brothers started restoration on it in the UK with new skins before Paul Allen bought it. Allen wanted to use as much of the original aircraft and skins as possible and it is a very accurate restoration, except that experts disagree on the paint number codes that were used and say that the shades would be slightly different.
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  747. +Dan Clayberger If you install an ad-blocker in your browser you will not see YouTube ads. I don't think the video author has a choice on the ads that are sold by YouTube. I recommend installing AdBlock+. I am also using BlockTube to filter out unwanted recommendations that are forced on me, such as political videos that YT will not let me filter.
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  748. + Gaming Bruh The B2 is the same size as the YB-49 and based on the original mission and data from Northrop. It's three times larger than the Ho-229.
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  749.  @fishingthelist4017  Roush Aerospace rebuilds Merlins and manufactures some Merlin parts. Jack Roush approached Rolls Royce about starting a production run to make some new Merlins, but Rolls Royce refused to grant him license on the engine. RR did allow a shop in the UK to manufacture brand-new Merlin heads to support the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight aircraft. The technology is here, but I have doubts that RR, BMW, and Mercedes would be receptive to license new engines just yet. There is a hobbyist in Europe that is slowing putting DB and BMW engines into CAD and he is making/machining non flyable engines for clients.
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  750. +Donn Hughes I believe that Rolls Royce sponsored the engine overhaul. To this day, BMW and Diamler Benz tiptoe around their WW2 engines and do not offer technical assistance. Much of the engine work today is done in California, but there is also a good expert in Germany that keeps them running. Bf-109 display pilot Walter Eichhorn got his ground instruction from Eric Hartmann himself back when Hartmann was still living, so there are probably other examples of knowledge sharing. Very good warbird and engine builds have started in Germany now with local expertise. And there is also good restoration work in Russia now, so expect more Russian types to be rebuilt, and I'm hearing there might be an effort to get a Tu-2 flying.
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  751. +BC YouTube controls the ads. Use an ad blocker in your browser.
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  752. + Rex Georg Hans-Guido Mutke put an Me-262 into a dive and experienced transonic buffeting but that is not supersonic flight.
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  753. +@simonbarrett6059 You must be new because this plane was discovered in the forest 30 years ago and the original video was a huge surprise in the warbird forums.
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  754. @roberthiggins6401 There is still a lot of fuel and oil in many of those sunken aircraft. It is worth getting them out not only for preservation but also to prevent contamination of water supplies.
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  755. +@besthuskydo7330 It is painted in the colors that were on it when it came down in the forest, documented from when the plane was washed and confirmed by photos of other Fw-190s in the same group, 4./JG54. Those are JG54 summer colors on the Eastern Front for 1943. The only dispute is the correct color reference numbers assigned by the RLM and hard to confirm since the RLM was rewriting color specifications in 1943.
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  756. + Neat Stuff It was not open cockpit, and the cockpit was intact after the crash. Eddie had a modified enclosed cockpit for better airflow and reduced wind noise. The examiners found a sleep aid in his system, and they thought that it had slowed his reaction timing and contributed to the crash. The canopy enclosure could not be fully opened upside down and the plane did not have emergency canopy release mechanisms or escape mechanisms. Eddie did not wear a helmet or fire-resistant clothing. The fire engulfed the fuselage and cockpit within 1.5 minutes and Eddie was found laying against the cockpit canopy and likely died from smoke inhalation and thermal injuries.
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  757.  @georgettewolf6743  Paul Allen's museum had a long-established practice of restoring their aircraft in absolute secrecy. Their Me-262 was no different although the unveiling event was a very refreshing change. The presentation was still very light on details although you can see that a lot of work and new material was put into the Jumo engines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ABmCXwX_UA
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  758. + David Balducci Only the Japanese Navy were secretly testing paint additives to reduce radar signatures of IJN aircraft at sea. Various metal powders and compounds were mixed into the paint and tested at Tokyo University. Most of their early notes were destroyed but US Navy Intelligence interviewed the scientists about their work.
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  759. + James C Germany already had the workhorse aircraft they needed with the Fw-190 and the Bf-109. They didn't need a naval fighter, which is what the A6M was.
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  760. +@alvaroroca3 There are eight original Me-262 survivors, plus a couple of reconstructions and two Czech-made examples from after WW2. One original is being restored for short flights. There are four new-build examples that fly with GE engines, and one new-build static Me-262.
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  761. +@rogeriopraglioli7744 O museu de Paul Allen restaurou um Me-262 para voar com turbinas Jumo. Mas ainda não está voando.
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  762. + Richard Von Pingel The Czechs only sold three of their post-war Me-262s to Egypt. I have no idea what happened to them.
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  763. +@salinagrrrl69 The last large group of military P-51s came from the Dominican Republic when they retired from active service in 1984. I don't have the exact numbers, but I think David Lindsey from Cavalier Aircraft snapped them up and resold them to US buyers.
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  764. +@thienhatran3212 In der nächsten Generation wird nichts mehr von ihnen übrig sein. Wenn sie nicht konserviert werden, verrotten sie zu nichts.
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  765.  @projektkobra2247  The paint is correct and was documented when it was cleaned by the first owners in the UK, and there are photos on some modelling websites. JG54 was using those forest camouflage colors on the Eastern Front and this Fw-190 was with 4./JG54 in July 1943.
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  766. +@barryadams243 Many yes, but not all of them. Drawings are sometimes incomplete. The German and Japanese types are rare.
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  767. +Tim Holyoake The 229 only produced three prototypes, all different. Also there were three more prototypes that were barely started. So you are correct that the program only produced demonstrator models, with only two hours of actual flight time with jet power.
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  768. + @441rider It wasn't the pilot's age. The accident at those speeds was beyond any human's capability to get out of it. It was an out-of-control machine at 525 mph. Human error when they put the plane together was the root cause, by not replacing parts that cost just a few dollars.
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  769.  @441rider  Reno changed the pylon course to be farther from spectators, as well as other NTSB recommendations for better testing of the aircraft. Although this had not satisfied many. The FAA addressed the worn-out parts with a specific new rule to change them on the P-51 to remain airworthy. Aircraft used to race cross-country putting many innocent people at risk, so at least Reno is a closed course event. I was planning to attend the 2011 race and I'm glad I was not there. I think the Unlimited class will always be dangerous, and as we saw this year the jet class may pose a greater risk.
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  770.  @441rider  Oh, you're talking about the Wings Over Dallas accident. The investigation and fallout are going to be a huge mess, and there are a lot of contributing factors rather than pinning the blame on the P-63 pilot. They were not carrying pax for the formation flying and they are lucky that nothing impacted the spectator area. The flight paths are supposed to be perpendicular to the crowd line, but the P-63 was approaching from about a 45-degree angle. The new air boss is particularly concerning if he was not vetted properly.
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  771.  @SamanthaGuttesen  It has been uncovered and recovered since the 1970s, so it wasn't really a new discovery. It's unfortunate the TIGHAR stepped in with promises of moving it, but they've never saved a single aircraft in their existence and just took people's money.
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  772. + Dalle Samllhals From 1939-1940 Japan was in negotiations to build the He-100 and received technical details. In 1940 three He-100 examples went to Japan, and by 1941 the Ki-61 prototype had flown.
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  773. + Alexander Michael Photos and a journalist video confirm the aircraft is destroyed.
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  774. + mike smith The Horten bothers only mentioned that the V2 prototype demonstrated a better rate of climb than the Me-262 during interrogations with RAF Intelligence. They were being good salesmen to the British.
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  775. +@Tam0de The Horten brothers sought asylum in several countries including the US but were denied.
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  776. +N26FE If you count the ones that have been under service and repair, there are six in Europe, with number seven coming together.
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  777. + Just call me Eddy Three prototypes were made, all different and with the intent to provide a new medium bomber design. (And ideas to eventually develop a long-range large bomber, but just ideas.) Three prototypes - V1 was an unpowered glider that was damaged in a crash, the V2 was the first with jet engines and performed about two hours of flight testing before and fatal crash, and finally the V3 which was found incomplete in a Gotha workshop. The V3 is what survives today, never tested and never flown.
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  778. +@TroupeGoal The airframe is about 80% original material. Some new lower skins, new tailplane, new leading edges, new spar caps, damage repair from impact. They also compared the build quality to the FW documents and rebuilt a few areas that were not within specifications. The original radio is functional. The engine is made of up from several to repair damage. New wiring and tires for safety although items that were manufactured were made as original.
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  779. +@GermanShepherd1983 The final NTSB report will be interesting. Instructing planes to cross assigned lanes on the fly should tell you something.
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  780. +@GermanShepherd1983 The final NTSB report will be interesting. Instructing planes to cross assigned lanes on the fly should tell you something.
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  781. +@Crisoleros Los turbocompresores utilizarán gases de escape para hacer girar una turbina y obtener energía adicional. Los motores de la serie DB utilizaban sobrealimentadores mecánicos sin gases de escape. Sólo se probaron prototipos experimentales con turbocompresores y turbocompresores.
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  782. +jedd keech Unfortunately any crashed Navy aircraft is still considered US Navy property. Collector Lex Crawley pulled the only surviving F3A-1 Cosair out of the swamp near Cherry Point air station and the Navy went after him for years, but he eventually was awarded ownership of the wreck.
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  783. +N26FE Closer to 10 if you count Buchon conversions, although some are down for work. And there should be two more Bf-109E flying soon.
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  784. +@hilanddoug Covid didn't kill the museum. Paul Allen's sister did when she got control of his money. Allen's wanted the museum to stay open and arranged for funding.
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  785.  @kacperstypczynski  Race pilot Bob Hannah was aged 40 when he experienced a similar trim failure flying Voodoo in the race. He immediately lost consciousness but Voodoo flew straight and slowed down, which allowed him to recover and land. He quit racing after that incident.
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  786. With the new Grand Cherokee and Wagoneer, I only hope Chrysler fires the stylist/designer before they kill the brand. I hate to think about what the next generation Wrangler could look like.
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  787.  @landmine940  Not local.
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  788. +@scottyson7970 Waiting on the NTSB report for that accident. There could be some factor of the fighter pilots being cowboys, but they were also being given instructions from the ground. And the ground instructor was new on the job. Airshows require strict coordination between everyone, especially in formation flying.
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  789. +@stupidusernamechack Not just flightworthy but replaced items made to original specifications. Very few wealthy collectors would have spent the millions on this restoration like Mr. Allen did. And it took a very special group of experts to accomplish it. Allen's museum was also building an original Me-262 and the first Stuka to fly since WW2. It is all under new owners now, so there will be some time before there is news on the existing work. I am hearing that the museum will not be back to flying until 2024.
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  790.  @tomjustolsen1079  The Fw-190 was imported into the UK by well-known collector the late Jim Pearce. If I understand correctly Pearce was responsible for getting over 40 aircraft (lots of Bf-109s wrecks, three Bf-110s, some Stuka wreckage, etc.) out of Russia after the Iron Curtain fell when the process was probably easier. Pearce was working in there before local corruption and organized crime became rampant. I'm not familiar with ownership rights in Russia so I don't know if the Fw-190 was "state" property or property of the landowner. It certainly wasn't German property. I'm pretty sure that Pearce did it legally. So Doug Arnold bought it from Pearce.
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  791. +@N7BLW I'm hoping that they start the video blogs again so that we can follow the Stuka restoration.
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  792. +@bingosunnoon9341 There are roughly 8-10 flyable Bf-109 worldwide, mostly G models and three Emils. Some are conversions from Spanish Buchon airframes. A decent number of wrecks are in very slow restoration. There should be two more Emil examples flying in a few years.
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  793. +@HamiltonStandard The swastika is still banned in many European countries (since 1945.) So if you monetize your YouTube channel you can get blocked. It's the same reason that model kits in Europe are missing the swastika decals.
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  794. + @steveelrino1339 The US Navy still holds claim to their aircraft worldwide under Maritime Law, but they are starting to relax a bit.
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  795.  @corey1054  The naming convention change for Messerschmitt must have really confused the Luftwaffe. Many original WW2 documents use "Me" and "Bf" interchangeably. I'm trying to imagine how many times in the admin offices that question might have been asked - Hey is that "Bf" or "Me"? "I dunno..."
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  796. +@DavidJacques-h6s Most of those engines were dry-sump and pressure-lubricated and used scavenge pumps to recirculate the oil.
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  797. + Douglas MacArthur Several early Bf-109s were purchased by Japan through a military cooperation agreement. So my guess is they arrived via ship in early 1941. Later in the war, Japan acquired an Me-262 and I think it was transported by a special submarine.
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  798. @Turloghan There is a new project to raise some of the USS Lexington aircraft form the deep, just for preservation and not flying. They would need very careful chemical treatments to remove the salts and minerals from the metals because that will destroy the plane. Some of them are very rare types with combat history so they will probably go to USN museums.
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  799. If I did something bad enough for someone to deliberately shoot at my ass, I probably deserved it anyway.
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  800. +@thegreatest3303 More than 40 wrecks came out of Russia in the 1990s when it was still a friendlier process. Local corruption got in the way. Many of those wrecks are still waiting for restoration.
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  801.  @creeksquadnation2129  Nine is about right, although a few of those are down for long-term work. Soon to be ten. Roughly a dozen more in slow rebuild to fly eventually.
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  802.  @Crashed131963  Indeed, Adblock Plus does wonders.
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  803. +orange70383 Yes. The radiator door was not open to the correct setting and the coolant boiled. Then the pilot came in too fast on the emergency landing and flipped it. It was already planned to retire the plane to a museum before the accident, so it was repaired and placed on permanent display.
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  804.  @MrJp990  You're welcome. One Ki-61 will be going to Mr. Yagen and another to Mr. Weeks. I dunno about the other one. They have been working on them for many years. Wreckage was exported from the South Pacific 20-30 years ago, actually I think it was the 1970s.
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  805.  @MrJp990  Sounds like a problem that will have to be solved, or use a DB-601. I believe there is one good Ha40 for one aircraft but if it is so problematic I wouldn't use it, if it were me.
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  806. +@kremepye3613 The pilot was Uffz Günther Seraphim IV/JG5 and engine trouble put him into the lake on 24-March-1943. He was rescued by a local man and his son and then returned to duty. He did not survive the war, thought to be KIA on 10-April-1945 during combat at Schweringen, Norway.
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  807. +@eddardstart3272 It was filmed in the forest in post-Soviet 1989, probably with Russian cameras. That was as good as it could be.
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  808. + Internet Privacy Advocate The P-63 pilot had control. You had multiple aircraft at the same altitude aiming for a narrow corridor with an uncrossable boundary near the crowd line. If the fighters maintained a higher altitude there would have been room for the P-63 to overtake the slower aircraft. The question is if the fighters left their assigned altitude or if the coordination just fell apart.
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  809. +@dirkdigler5332 The crash was caused by stock locknuts that were out of spec, followed by catastrophic loss of control with no recovery.
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  810. It looks cramped. Your knees are nearly touching the front console. And when you sit in the back your knees are touching the back of the front seat. The ride would be uncomfortable for a 15-minute drive to dinner. Ten inches more legroom wouldn't be too much of a weight penalty to the fuel economy.
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  811. + Al Phillips There was nothing stealthy in the glues. The Smithsonian took samples of the wood and glues and found only glue, as expected.
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  812.  @alphillips5478  Low radar signature from the small frontal area is coincidental. The engines were still shrouded with welded steel panels for fire resistance and that would reflect a lot.
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  813.  @WALTERBROADDUS  In 2019 the plane was designated with protected status, so it will probably stay there unless it becomes and archeological recovery.
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  814.  @WALTERBROADDUS  No I just think protected status means that it is permanently off limits.
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  815. + Idir benferhat Considering that the V3 prototype never left the ground, the Horten brothers didn't know the capabilities of it either. And the brothers only got two hours of flight out of the V2 prototype and it crashed before they measured any performance figures. The 229 is an elegant shape with innovative flight controls but it wasn't designed as a stealth aircraft, just a fuel-efficient bomber.
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  816. + Richard Galli Arguably, the He-177 had four engines driving two propellers. Each engine in the DB-610 pair could be operated independently and de-clutched from the prop.
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  817.  @johndenton5555  The sloppy mechanic with a rag during an engine change is also a theory of mine. The engine was recently swapped out. Also for a Fw-190 that was only a few months old the restoration did find some flaws. There were some sections that did not meet the engineering specs and had to be rebuilt but I don't know which. JME Engineering in the UK did a lot of research when they were rebuilding it. Their next project was the Me-262 for Paul Allen before the owner retired and closed the shop.
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  818. + Valerio Bertucci The B2 is not a copy of the 229. The B2 is the modern redesign of the YB-35/YB-49 aircraft. They are the same size and were built for the same mission.
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  819. +chris s It was never tested at Wright Field or anywhere else because it was not flown. By 1946-1947 the military was done with it and the 229 and other foreign equipment that were not scrapped were moved to an empty hangar in Chicago.. It was donated to the Smithsonian in 1950 and it has been with the museum in poor condition since that time.
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  820. +@rzr2ffe325 The occupying Allies wrote the law in 1945, and it is still in effect.
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  821. +@markvonschober6872 Paul Allen was the third owner of the Fw-190 after it arrived in the UK. The previous owner had already started restoration before Allen bought it, and he really didn't pay that much considering it was an incomplete project unlikely to fly at that time. He decided to restore it as original as possible and put millions into the restoration.
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  822. + Jason Kerbs No Stuka has flown since WW2.
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  823.  @jamesg9973  It was a big dumping area and they have found more including some US-made aircraft parts and possibly some German stuff. It may be a while before the material is checked for anything that could start a rebuild.
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  824. +David77646 Each aircraft has a W.Nr. Only one was usable for British test pilots while the others were destroyed that night.
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  825. + @That guy Looking at the tracking, it wasn't over US waters until it reached Alaska. It drifted all the way across Canada and they were not concerned to do anything about it. China, Russia and the US have very good satellites, so the spy balloon idea doesn't fully compute. It will be fished out of the ocean and the story will come later.
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  826. +@bob-gk5jn The owners had planned a restoration to flying condition, but may have changed their minds.
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  827. +@MrSteve280 No speed measurements were completed on the V2 prototype before the fatal crash in February 1945. And they only managed about two hours of test flying before it was destroyed. During interrogations the Horten brothers only mentioned that their V2 wing showed a higher climb rate than the Me-262. Entirely possible, but I also think they were giving a sales pitch.
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  828. +@davidfischer5945 Both BMW and Mercedes had distanced themselves for their war efforts during WW2. BWM issued a formal public apology. One consequence of this is difficulty obtaining technical assistance with restoring and maintaining the rarest of the German aero engines for aircraft. Though I suspect that both BMW and Mercedes would strictly enforce their patent rights if efforts were made to manufacture new aero engines for restoration projects. Similarly, Rolls Royce still maintains license on their Merlin engine designs.
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  829. +bassmiith448 Northrop didn't build a replica. The model shop built a full-size plywood and fiberglass shape of the 229 for a radar study. The TV show dramatized events way too much.
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  830. +@marcaskew61 Four Soviet Hurricanes from 2./2gvKAP VVS SF attacked the four Bf-109Es flying escort for Bf-110s on 4-April-1942. SLt Pokrovskij recorded a kill for a Bf-109E and he reported it as force-landed.
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  831.  NWAZ flatEarther  From which part of NTSB report are you basing that statement?
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  832. +@ivansidoruk7532 He wasn't the oldest pilot in the world and had passed the medical for the race.
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  833. +Michel Lemieux All correct, though it is described as having some parts from W.Nr. 682060. I don't see the W.Nr. painted on it.
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  834. +@stevesick1 It is a completely new-build aircraft with GE turbines. Several were made.
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  835.  @jgrizz7943  The Japanese were researching radar disrupting paint for aircraft before the 229 project had ever started. The Horten brothers didn't invent stealth as a science and were focused on 1920s flying wing concepts of speed and low drag.
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  836.  @jgrizz7943  Japan's research was aimed at reducing aircraft radar signature and was paint formulations with added compounds. The Horten brothers were following the pre-war concepts of tailless aircraft which were low drag, fuel efficiency and speed. They created a plane with a small cross-section, just like Jack Northrop had already started before the Horten brothers. Reimar Horten tried revisionist history when he made "stealth" claims in his memoirs.
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  837.  @jgrizz7943  There's no rubber in the 229 (aside from the tires and fittings.) It's laminated plywood and tube steel frame. The engine fairings are welded sheet steel. (A lot of metal for a radar signature.) Selecting wood for construction was a consequence of late-war materials shortages rather than a radar advantage. Following your logic that a low cross section was the only metric to win the "stealth" race, there were multiple flying wing designs years before the 229 project began. The Horten brothers were just following work completed by others, and to their credit they contributed their own aerodynamic innovations. The 229 wasn't a success. The program only completed three different prototype designs and only managed a couple of flight hours on the second one. The last V3 example that survives today was designed mostly by engineers at Gotha without input from the brothers since Gotha had been selected as the manufacturer that could begin the steps for a production example.
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  838. +Johan Åkermyr That wreck is one the Lancasters that took part in the October 1944 raid to sink the battleship Tirpitz. It's an aircraft that needs to be preserved (at least moved to a museum) instead of laying out to rot in the wilderness.
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  839. + dehoe disc General Hap Arnold wisely recognized the need to preserve examples of those aircraft which is why some were collected and stored in a hangar in Chicago, and eventually all donated to the Smithsonian museum. I don't think the idea of civilian ownership of warplanes was even considered until surplus sales of all of that military gear began.
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  840. +@kacperstypczynski Age or reaction wasn't a factor in this accident and a young pilot would still have perished. Once the G-loads on two axis began the pilot was an unconscious passenger inside a 500-mph missile.
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  841. +@relaxingnature2617 Only two intact Stukas plus wreckage. One new project has been rebuilt to fly, but new owners need to complete the work. A flying Stuka was nearly impossible until this new project filled in missing info.
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  842. +Bert Sedgwick Questionable DNA tests performed in Cairo, but said the bones were too old. So no conclusive identification. The bones were "lost" and EVERYTHING went black after the military coup in Egypt. Lost of people die and are buried in the desert.
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  843. +Adrian Goede A DVD was made although I do not know if it is still available.
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  844. +@yahoo497 I don't think so. His museum has a lot of military gear. He did have the money to find and restore a lot of the rarer stuff like German aircraft. (His museum was building a flyable Stuka.) I don't think many other wealthy people would have invested the amount of money needed to get that Fw-190 flying again and restored to near-perfection.
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  845. It is known that Flight Sergeant Dennis Copping was taking this plane on a ferry flight between RAF bases either before or after repairs. It is not understood why he went off course.
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  846. +@antonyadam9346 Northrop began design and construction on the YB-35 platform in 1941 with a government contract and based on his own flying wing experience. Subcontractor problems made the project slow. By 1944 the importance of jet engines was realized, and two YB-35 platforms were taken to convert to jet-powered YB-49 versions.
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  847.  @tacticalmattfoley  The swastika was banned in Germany in 1945 by the Allies and it is still banned. Some changes do allow museums to use it for their displays.
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  848. +@eamo106 The Texas Air Museum rebuilt at least four Fw-190s to static condition, and not to a very high standard. They are in other museums now. Paul Allen's Fw-190 was not in Texas. It was meticulously restored in the UK and finished in the AZ.
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  849. +@tanaykhara2098 The photos from Morotai in Indonesia will break your heart. As late as the 1980s there was a scrap yard full of B-24s, P-38s and other aircraft. The local authorities ordered a cleanup and all of it was scrapped rather than selling any.
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  850. +@francishuddy9462 It wasn't a forest when the plane went down but young saplings. In the climate and latitudes in Russia things grow slowly.
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  851. + Colin Boone Correction, the entire premise of the 229 program was that the Horten brothers promised Goering a fast medium bomber and Goering secured funding for them. Although I think in reality, they pulled one over on Goering just to get some money and quietly continue their wing research in the last year of the war.
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  852. +@chadkar8904 I think the original factory specs were top overhaul every 100 hours, full overhaul every 200 hours and max engine life of 600 hours.
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  853. +@NiclasHorn GE turbines.
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  854. + Johann Coetzee The fire on the Kee Bird was a fuel spill, because instead of fixing the fuel pump on the aircraft APU they decided to rig up a can of gas to gravity-feed the carb.
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  855. +@realkilju A previous owner had already started restoring the plane before Paul Allen bought it. Allen made the decision to restore the plane to near-perfect condition.
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  856. No skin on the left arm anymore, ugly 2nd and 3rd degree burns.
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  857. +@marcotritto4503 The markings and paint are correct and were documented when the plane was cleaned.
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  858. +@supercheese7033 JME Engineering in the UK did the rebuild work on the Fw-190 before the final work was completed in the US. JME also did Paul Allen's Me-262 before it was also shipped to the US for completion. I think JME was also asked to do the Stuka but the owner retired and closed the shop so the Stuka was rebuilt at another shop.
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  859. +@lonewolf4949 I doubt anyone inside was conscious or alive after that missile hit. The helicopter was ghosting until it crashed.
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  860. +@thinman8621 Germany has no claim to it and it was on Russian soil. When the Iron Curtain fell, the Russians did not see a lot of value in those wrecks and they were legally bought and exported by a well-known UK collector. It was then sold to Doug Arnold in the UK who began a restoration before selling it to Paul Allen for his museum.
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  861. +@diddykong9366 Complicated answer, but some blueprints for the Me-262 and other Luftwaffe aircraft are incomplete or scattered around in private collections. In the 1990s there was a unique opportunity to restore the WW2 original Me262B-1a trainer for the US Navy because it was in bad shape. A private company Classic Fighter Industries partnered with well-known aircraft builder Herb Tischler at the Texas Airplane factory to restore the Me-262 for the US Navy with permission to copy the parts and build a few new Me-262s for buyers. Five were made, with four flyable fitted with GE CJ 610 turbines. So there are four flyable, new-build Me-262s. There are eight WW2 Me-262s in museums (plus a couple of Czech-made examples) and one museum has restored their Me-262 to be flyable, but it is not ready yet. Regarding blueprints, any Stuka project had a similar and much worse problem with missing data, but this has been overcome for the first flyable Stuka since WW2, although it is also not finished at this time.
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  862. +@ANdi-2308 It was not covered in coal dust or charcoal. The third prototype was captured in the Gotha workshop still unfinished and covered with green fireproof coatings. No paint at all.
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  863. +@luuko656 No combat damage was found on the plane and the original engine showed severe damage from heat and oil loss. There definitely was an engine failure of some sort.
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  864.  @luuko656  The plane had an engine swap and my theory was a sloppy mechanic. I see a few other comments with the same thoughts.
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  865. +@michaelholder3933 Each prototype was different. The first V1 was an unpowered glider and was tested until it was destroyed in a landing accident. The second V2 prototype flew with jet power but for only about two hours of testing before a fatal accident. That was all of the flying that the 229 program achieved. The V3 prototype that is at the Smithsonian never flew and it was not complete when it was found.
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  866. +@jeffm9798 It is the same Bf-109E. It first served in North Africa before serving on the Eastern Front. The Eastern Front paint came off, leaving the original desert tan visible.
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  867. +jerry87 The APU didn't break loose. The fuel pump broke and rather than waiting to fix it, they rigged up a jerry can of fuel for it. The fuel spilled and started a flash fire.
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  868. +@jamespfitz The number of flyable P-38s is not very high, somewhere over a dozen. The number of surviving aircraft is not especially high, under 40. The Mustang is the most numerous with over 150 flying examples.
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  869. + Volker Koening Over time the law has been updated and there is some variances for museum display and topic discussion.
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  870. +@marktweet7379 No Me-309 survives, so you saw something else. Only partial remains of the Me-209 variant survive in Poland.
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  871. +Dr. Emmett Brown The forces in this accident were beyond human capability regardless of age. NASA and the USAF also stated that a G-suit would not have made any difference in this specific accident. High G loads on multiple axis simultaneously.
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  872. +@jeanprado4791 The surrender documents signed by Germany at the end of WW2 included forfeit of weapons and means of production. Nothing was stolen.
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  873. +@mikesith-wk7vy The WW2 original Me-262 at Paul Allen's museum has been restored to use Jumo turbines that have been substantially rebuilt. But ground testing is not complete at this time, so maybe later.
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  874. + Sandy Hanson The reels on the shoulder straps can be unlocked to allow the pilot more freedom of movement. It's possible that they were unlocked or just stretched from the G loads.
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  875. + ThrottleBlipsN'TwistedGrips The S-199s were build in Czechoslovakia by Avia. Avia also tried to manufacture the Me-262 as an export product but they only sold three to Egypt and the project was abandoned by 1949 when Avia retooled the factory for a newer aircraft contract.
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  876. +@ArktinenPeikko The Finnish Buffalo was huge debacle when the salvagers in Russia literally cut the pristine plane in half to stuff it into a shipping crate and smuggle it to Ireland. The US Navy stepped in with proof that the plane was actually still Navy property and seized it. Navy Museum technicians repaired the damage and the plane is currently on loan to Finland.
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  877. +ARRant The Horten brothers did not invent the flying wing. It was a design theory explored by aircraft builders in several nations stating in the 1920s.
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  878. +@teddystauffer4614 The pilot returned to duty and was KIA about a year later, in biplane of all aircraft.
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  879. +@charliebryce3783 No flying Typhoon or Tempest project has a working engine yet. The engine alone will be a big challenge, but the projects are working in that direction.
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  880. +Wendy Man Educational exhibits are permitted, but very little else.
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  881. +@brainwrynn3109 The Germans had a very efficient salvage system for crashed aircraft, sending teams of about 15 people to inspect, organize and collect the aircraft for recycling. Allied weapons, systems, and engines were inspected and repaired to be sent to technical schools and for training. These components and fuels were also saved to support captured aircraft that were being tested or used in clandestine missions. I'm not sure that I've heard about Allied components used for constructing German aircraft. Perhaps radios were used to listen to Allied communications. The famous captured B-17 "Wulfe Hund" was scrapped at a Soviet airfield after WW2 and during a recent cleanup operation there many parts of the B-17 were dug up including the instrument panel with German notes still painted on it.
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  882. +@bastymanguy There are captured examples that survive. But the Allies had groups tasked with disarming Germany and that equipment would have been systematically scrapped and there are photos of that happening. Surprisingly, a few aircraft that were still in good condition were used in countries such as France and Finland. France operated several German aircraft until the 1950s. and so did Finland. Engines and some items were also repurposed. The material that was left in Soviet territories was eventually scrapped on orders from Stalin because he needed raw materials for his new Cold War military.
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  883. +@daveone191 The GEs provide about 40% more power. But the flight procedures are to operate them in the powerband to roughly equal the output of the Jumo. The extra power from the GEs could potentially create some dangerous scenarios in flight.
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  884. + @fishingthelist4017 The right experts could recover the B-25 unless there are munitions still in it, which would make it much harder.
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  885.  @fishingthelist4017  Ahh, three people died in the B-25 accident and only one body was recovered. That would complicate recovery, although I am reading that those wishing to salvage it were already working with family of the crew. The engines are up, but the rest of the plane is still in the mud.
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  886. +HuskyGamersUNITE There was to be an official ceremony to return the plane to the RAF for a museum, but that was before the military coup in Eqypt with el-Sisi. Things fell apart after that, but hopefully the container is still present and intact.
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  887. +Kinght's Oath There are five more P-38s and two B-17s. There was another project to retrieve another P-38 but they had problems with weather and equipment. I haven't heard anything new in a few years.
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  888.  @b.critical7873  Nobody made Jumo 004s after the war? The Soviets copied and manufactured around 1200 Jumo 004s after WW2 as a Klimov engine. They also copied the BMW 003 turbine, also by Klimov.
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  889. +@MetamorphicWonders The airframe is about 80% original metal, with some repairs and fixes to meet factory specs. Electricals would be new for safety but were manufactured as original. The engine was built from several cores to make a reliable unit. The cockpit and radio are original, except for a few small newer engine gauges that are needed. When JME restored the cockpit in the UK, they were careful to reproduce the mismatched shades of RLM 02 that came from subcontractors providing components.
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  890. +@panzerabteilung The Arnold brothers in the UK started the restoration with new skins first before selling the wreck to Paul Allen. Allen used to his fortune to restore the plane to original condition and flyable--something very much impossible in the late 1990s. Allen kept most of the original skins and the new paint is correct for 4./JG54 on the Eastern Front.
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  891. +Chris Nelmes Flight tested until October 1944 when it was force-landed and damaged by an engine fire. Scrapped.
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  892. +@Bill Halliwell The Smithsonian Museum is the best example of that. It was the wisdom of Gen. Hap Arnold to save examples of WW2 aircraft which were eventually donated to the Smithsonian. They have so many one-of-a-kind survivors in storage that it will take more than a generation to get them out for conservation.
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  893. +@klmemamp5001 The swastika has been banned in Germany since 1945. There are exceptions but it cannot be painted on flying aircraft.
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  894. +@STHFGDBY In the 1990s when the Iron Curtain fell, the Russians were perplexed why Westerners wanted to buy that old junk laying around. Good negotiations were made and over 40 aircraft wrecks were bought and exported from Russia, until local corruption got in the way. Today the Russians have a very healthy restoration industry for rare aircraft such as the flying IL-2s that were restored in Russia.
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  895. +@herschelmayo2727 I have heard often that the museum got it running but it was in no shape to fly for the movie. There is some very good behind the scenes home video from the movie set, but I am not sure if anyone thought to document the Stuka running if that actually happened. It was probably that last time that example will be started.
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  896. +@captainjames8799 He returned to duty and was killed in a non-combat accident about a year later.
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  897. +Firebrand You are correct, because the Horten's sold the idea to Goering as a bomber.
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  898. +@frankguz55 It does have the original colors and markings for 4./JG54. It was very weathered sitting in the forest for 40 years.
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  899.  @coastal9181  It's not my channel. Critics have said that Reimar Horten making those comments decades after the fact was just wishful thinking and revisionist and I kinda agree with them.
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  900. + Maksymillian #2 The second 229 prototype did fly with jet engines, for about two hours of testing before an engine failure/fire and fatal crash on 18-Feb-1945. This crash was basically the end of the 229 program, although work on the prototypes 3-6 continued at the Gotha workshop until it was overrun by Patton's forces in mid-April 1945. So the Horten brothers do deserve credit for their work and for being the first to fly a wing with jet power.
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  901. +@kennethrobbins829 That would be the August 17, 1943 bombing raid on the Messerschmitt production facility at Regensburg, Germany. This caused extensive damage to the facility, destroyed several Me-262 prototypes, and did in fact destroy the new manufacturing jigs for the Me-262 fuselage. Analysis says this did delay the Me-262 program by several months. So your story isn't dubious at all for those who read.
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  902. +@smellyfella5077 There are three flying Bf-109E worldwide at this time, with two more flying examples planned, along with several more future restorations.
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  903. +@gregwilliams386 Starting in 1943, the Japanese were researching paint additives for IJN aircraft to reduce radar reflectivity. So I would say that the Japanese should be given credit for early stealth work.
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  904. + Kaiser Trinity T.M.I.S Yes, but work at the museum is presently stopped. They were starting the electricals and avionics on the Stuka when the work stopped.
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  905. @1SaG Nicht flugfähig.
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  906.  @DissidentPrick  The plane had multiple owners. It was the first owners in the UK that decided to strip the skins and replace with new. When Paul Allen bought it, he wanted to keep the original skins and make the plane as original as possible. Allen put about $10 Million of his money into the plane, which is about the best outcome for it.
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  907.  @TheBrataccas  The Russians were not particularly enthusiastic about those old planes still lying around their country in 1989. It may very well have been eventually scrapped if was not removed. There was a one-of-kind survivor of a rare Russian type that was filmed and put on YouTube. The landowner later sold it for scrap for the money. There was little appreciation for these relics at that time.
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  908. +Craig own Lindvall jr Be more specific. Which photo?
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  909. +@charlessylvia5483 There is an active recovery for another of the P-38s, but I don't see a lot of updates and they've had equipment and weather delays.
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  910. + @58 fregate The Royal Navy used both Corsairs and the F4F. I think the F4F saw more coastal action, with the Corsairs first flying cover during the Tirpitz attacks.
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  911. + Evan V The circumstances for the Kee Bird could have been controlled if they had been more patient and fixed the APU properly.
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  912. +hawkdsl The Kee Bird was a textbook case of go-fever. The APU generator did not break loose. The fuel pump was broken and they tried to by-pass the pump with fuel can that spilled onto the hot APU.
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  913. +@broadcastmyballs Allen's money was diversified into real estate, sports (Seattle Seahawks), entertainment, and other foundations, museums and charities. Allen put a fortune into his museum, and they were finishing an Me-262 and Stuka when he died. Allen's sister changed his estate and removed funding for the museum. One of the heirs to the Walmart fortune has bought Allen's entire museum and hopefully restorations and flying will resume soon.
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  914. +@kinocorner976 The first owners had started the restoration before Paul Allen bought it. But Allen had the financial means to restore it to original and flyable condition. Look for a second restoration to fly soon, also with the BMW engine.
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  915.  @garywaddell1343  The "Yellow 3" example was rebuilt into a proper display aircraft and now it is kept in the museum at Bodø, Norway.
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  916. + Hertzair Hans Guido Mütke entered a dive and reached transonic buffeting and then regained control in denser air. Not controlled supersonic flight.
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  917. +@johandewitt9911 If you look, the Brits, Americans and the Germans all began design and work on jet aircraft at roughly the same time between 1937 and 1939.
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  918. It is well past time for a true picture of the redesign and not computer simulations. There is promise but I'm not liking the Godzilla front fascia on the new Tundra and I hope they don't borrow from that. It's overkill. I'm seriously interested in the new 4Runner. Jeep blew the looks with the boxy new Grand Cherokee. And coming from a Ford family, Ford chased me off with the clumsy rollout of the Bronco and their dealers literally extorting money from Bronco customers.
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  919. + jezztech Patton's forces found the Gotha workshop at Friedrichroda, Germany in mid-April 1945 where the prototypes 3 through 6 were under construction. There are photos documenting these examples. Prototype V3 was about 50% complete and was selected to keep, along with constructed wings found in another workshop about 75 miles away. So it is very likely that the prototypes 4, 5, and 6 were destroyed in place. The Americans actually gave the V3 to the British over the summer of 1945 and they studied it while interrogating the Horten brothers. RAF Intelligence looked in Germany for the remains of the V1 and V2 and were unable to locate them. Some additional construction must have been performed on the V3 and the British were considering installing RR Nene turbines, but they would not fit. The V3 was never flown by either the RAF or the AAF and it was donated the Smithsonian in 1950.
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  920. +@germbumbumisnogud1875 Der 229. V3-Prototyp, der heute im Smithsonian Museum erhalten ist, war bei seiner Eroberung Mitte April 1945 noch unvollendet. Abgesehen von einer grünen, feuerfesten Beschichtung war er zudem völlig unlackiert. Tarnfarbe oder Kohle waren nicht vorhanden.
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  921. + Mudd RuddEr The Kee Bird fire was an improvised fuel can that spilled fuel onto the APU. They didn't stop and fix a broken fuel pump.
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  922. +@TubeNotMe Northrop's flying wing platform was a more mature design but it had two things working against it. 1) Inherent instability, which not a good design feature for a precision bombing platform and 2) Air Force Secretary Stuart Symington. The YB-49 had range and stability problems at the start of the Cold War. Symington was a vindictive sob and he terminated the YB-49 program to punish Northrop for not agreeing to merge with Convair. Even the drawings were destroyed and future flying wing development slowed. The only platform that could perform a long-range strike into Soviet territory was the B-36.
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  923. + wasay Khan No, because the 229 program was an experimental flight test program that was nowhere near ready for production before the war ended. They were just making prototypes and had very little flight hours.
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  924.  @danielaguilar7526  A loaded 4-door Wrangler Sahara is more like 50 grand now.
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  925. The title is a bit misleading since the P-82 is not two Mustangs bolted together. The airframe shares very few parts with the P-51, and if I'm remembering correctly the XP-82 restoration said only two shared parts.
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  926. +@GaryPuch-h3q There are only two original and intact Stukas left in the world, plus some wreckage. More recently there are now two Stuka projects in progress to fly, but VERY slow work. One was almost finished but work stopped while new owners took over and other delays.
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  927. + Van Must I have read that the movie producers and the museum got the Ju-87G running, but the electrics and systems were too fragile to risk it for the movie. So they used models.
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  928. + Garfield Farkle Yaw instability is inherent to the wing design. A pretty big flaw for a bomber platform needing accuracy. Northrop couldn't fix it either, although they were trying yaw dampers when their YB wing program was cancelled.
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  929. +Mike Montgomery The Japanese were experimenting with adding metal powders and other reflective compounds into the paint for IJN aircraft as a means to reduce long-range radar detection. In the least, the credit for the concept of "stealth" should be given to the Japanese. US Navy intelligence interviewed the Japanese personnel although most of the notes for the experiments had been destroyed.
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  930. A very accurate list of surviving aircraft will always be difficult. There are project aircraft that have been in storage for decades that are often missing from lists that are assumed to be very correct. And new discoveries, water salvage, etc will add more. A box of miscellaneous Fw-190D-9 parts was for sale recently, but offered as a Fw-190D with a serial number. Eventually that will become another rebuilt survivor. Type experts that make the lists sometimes cannot keep up.
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  931. +Barbosa003 There's a hardcover book about the restoration of Black 6 that you can buy.
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  932. The original RAF film of the Tirpitz raid captured the splash from this Tallboy when it failed to detonate. The massive crater from a near miss on the shoreline was still visible during the salvage work to remove the Tirpitz years later.
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  933.  @ScienceChap  Yes, thank you. I must be getting old.
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  934. + Eddy Hawman Norway has a lot of wrecks still left in situ in remote areas. Plus more examples in the fjords that will be in excellent condition. If they do not mark them all as protected objects then there should more recoveries.
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  935. + Jordan Tyndall And it was only the third iteration in a series of experimental prototypes for a flying wing program. It was not a production aircraft.
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  936. +@rob1129 The Russians captured the pilot and I'm sure they had removed a few items from the plane before leaving. The master compass was missing and also the upper guns were missing.
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  937. +@Rechkalov In the past, Paul Allen's museum typically did all of their restoration work in private with very little published information. I think they documented the process for the own records though but there is very public info on the Fw-190 restoration. A little bit of information from people who actually did the work in the UK says that Allen wanted to use as much original plane as possible including the original skins. Damaged areas were replaced and after comparing the construction to original factory specifications, a few more areas were reconstructed to meet factory specifications. Overall, the plane is said to be about 80% original metal. Everything else was overhauled or replaced with new manufactured components made as original. Paul Allen even had the electrical wiring remanufactured with cotton-wrapped wire, which is a process that isn't used anymore.
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  938. +@trooperdgb9722 Many "gate guard" Spitfires and Hurricanes came down when the Battle of Britain movie was made. The restoration expertise today is quite amazing and more restorations are taking place, with more focus on the rare types resurrected from little more than fragments.
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  939. +Technik Meister I think that regulations for PAX carrying vintage aircraft in Europe set standards closer to commercial aircraft certification. This can be good for maintenance and reliability but it is also making it cost-prohibitive to operate them. But seeing them in the air can be good without passenger flight experiences.
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  940. +@robertmiller2173 Goring's design request was for an aircraft capable of 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) load over 1,000 km (620 mi) at 1,000 km per hour (620 mph.) The Horten brothers offered a design for the request (but it really was a way for them get money to do more research on flying wings.)
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  941. + @ps2hacker The Atka B-24 has been designated an historic artifact on the US and Alaskan register, so it's not going anywhere. I don't think that rot in place is a smart preservation strategy but sometimes decisions aren't made by smart people.
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  942. +david thelander It was not designed as a fighter but as a medium bomber. And armed prototype was under construction to test for other mission roles.
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  943. +@michaelshrumii1494 Actually parts of several scrapped Hurricanes were found by explosive experts while clearing a combat area of unexploded ordinance and mines. The wreckage was removed by museum experts.
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  944. +Kevin Clarkson Correct that was not designed with stealth in mind or even as a fighter. I think the Japanese should be given credit for stealth research during WW2 for researching metal powder additives and other compounds mixed into aircraft paint for Japanese Navy aircraft specifically to confuse long-range radar. US Navy Intelligence interviewed the Japanese researchers but most of their notes had been destroyed to prevent capture.
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  945. +horus falcon The lab samples taken at the Smithsonian didn't find any charcoal. Just the signatures of the adhesives used in the wood and wood fibers in various states of decay.
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  946. +paul kindler The Spanish 109s and 111s were offered for sale after the movie. Most of the 109s found homes but very few for 111s were sold and were scrapped.
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  947.  @littlejimmy8744  Paul Allen's museum has a 2.111 that is coming together, which I assume will fly eventually. It''s got Merlins on it for now.
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  948. + Norknight Yup, the Me-262 was an interceptor and not a dogfighter.
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  949.  @sandervanderkammen9230  This is true, but a wider turn radius and sluggish throttle response would have been disadvantages. It was better suited as a bomber interceptor.
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  950.  @sandervanderkammen9230  While the Me-262 can win if it keeps the speed up (or just fly away), if a turning fight bleeds energy fast the Me-262 begins to lose the advantage with piston fighters that have somewhere around half the turn radius and can stay inside the Me-262s turn.
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  951.  @sandervanderkammen9230  No questions. My point was that the ability to loose speed in an engagement along with a tighter turn capability can be an advantage in an engagement. The Me-262 retains speed but in a slower turning fight the prop fighter has an advantage. With speed the Me-262 still has the advantage. Back to my original statement that the Me-262 was better as an interceptor.
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  952. +@niclaska81 A UK owner tried to restore it first. Then it went to the only wealthy owner willing to spend the money to restore it.
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  953. +wacka2 Yup. Can't reverse that mess and the time capsule is gone.
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  954.  @g.h.9117  Four of the Me-262s remain in the US and the fifth example flies with the Messerschmitt Museum in Germany. Only four of those were flyable.
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  955. + dennis leslie I just listened to the video and didn't hear any claim that B-29s were used operationally against WW2 Germany. One was flown to the England for demonstration and psyops against Germany, and this was already known. The video does says that after WW2, B-29s and B-17s were used for bomb trails against abandoned sub pens on a remote island, which makes sense while the Allies were developing the next generation of heavy bombs for deep fortifications.
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  956. +@americanfortruth This is the only WW2 original Fw-190 that flies with the BMW engine. The Collings Foundation has a new restoration that is getting close to the first flights. There are a few Fw-190D projects but nothing that is ready. You will probably see a replica with an Allison V12 flying eventually.
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  957. +@vforvendetta275 Fighter Rebuilders at Planes of Fame was contracted to restore it to flying condition, although the owners may have changed their mind.
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  958. +DWH BOI The DB-605 V12 is 2176 cubic inches.
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  959. +@mikestarkey7989 I'm going to say that the Japanese invented stealth. Starting in 1943, Tokyo Engineering University started researching radar reflectivity with paint additives. They were trying to reduce long-range radar detection of Japanese Navy aircraft by adding metallic compounds to aircraft paint.
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  960. + Mike Guido There was some stuff out there, or it was carted to local museums. The North African / Arabian region is so politically unstable that some relics are difficult to recover. There are some aircraft in Syria that folks have been seeking for a long time.
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  961. +@Abandoned_Brame Restored to original condition and flying almost 20 years ago. The only WW2 original Fw-190 that is flying.
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  962. +@666sdkfz It was Doug Arnold in the UK who owned it first and started a restoration with new skins. Paul Allen bought it and wanted to use as much original aircraft as possible for a safe flying restoration.
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  963.  @sandervanderkammen9230  What exists of the 229 program is the unfinished third prototype that never flew. The 229 program was barely started when WW2 was over and they were just building models to create a bomber.
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  964.  @sandervanderkammen9230  Admittedly, the 229 had stealth characteristics by accident, mainly low radar reflectivity. Although the Germans were not building a stealth aircraft and would not have known stealth if it hit them over the head. I think the idea of stealth as a tactic should be credited to the Japanese. Beginning in 1943, professors at the Tokyo Engineering Institute along with Nippon Broadcasting and Sumitomo Electric began looking at the properties needed for radar absorbing materials and began testing paints for IJN aircraft to reduce radar detection. This research continued until the end of the war. The US Navy interrogated them and examined the notes that they were unable to destroy.
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  965.  @sandervanderkammen9230  The Germans didn't invent wind tunnels anymore than they invented supersonic flight. NACA research with large scale wind tunnels began in the 1920s. The Hortens did some great work, but at the end of WW2 all they had put together was a jet wing prototype made of sticks and bicycle frames. Give credit where it is deserved, but don't act as though the RLM minions were aeronautical gods.
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  966. +@volkerkonig9376 The original wartime engine had damage from oil problems and when they opened it up, the metal was scorched blue from heat. I'm not sure how many parts were used from the engine, but the project did manage to locate six "core" engines for parts to build a flyable engine.
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  967. +@johnm5131 So Cal has been central in warbird restoration and flying since the 1950s. Planes of Fame and Fighter Rebuilders are a first-class operation. One of the best engine shops is also in CA, and they have rebuilt several DB-6xx engines for flying as well as two flyable BMW-801 radials. The only operational Jumo 004 turbines were also rebuilt in CA.
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  968. There are partial remains of a Do-217 in Italy. And there are partial remains of a Ki-21 Sally in Thailand. Maybe one day either could form a project.
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  969. +@tihzho It was 19-July-1943 and Rätz was just flying a 15-minute hop to bomb a Russian train and come back, then the engine quit. He tried to get back the German lines but the Russians captured him.
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  970. +@marioborkowski5894 The find is over 30 years old from when the original video was made in 1989.
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  971. Any remains located have still not been formally identified as Flt. Sgt Copping, which is a tragedy to this airman's memory. The remains are being studied in Cairo now.
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  972. +@lukefriesenhahn186 The Easterm Front paint peeled off the plane when it was cleaned. What is left now is the desert tan colors from when the plane earlier flew in North Africa.
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  973. +@Craig52-zq1bt The smaller V2 prototype did complete approximately two hours of test flying with jet power. It was lost on 18-Feb-1945 during a single engine out crash that was fatal to test pilot Ziller. This was pretty much the end of the 229 program and the next prototypes were incomplete when found.
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  974. +timj41 No Tempests or Typhoons are flying. Weeks has a Tempest project and there are two (maybe three) Typhoon projects.
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  975. +@madraftboy It wasn't used in the film, but they explored getting it back into the air. I understand that it was started. There are a lot of "behind the scenes" home video from the Battle of Britain filming but I have never seen if anyone thought to film or photograph it actually running. To my knowledge and looking at the movement logs for this Stuka, it was never flown since it was captured at the end of WW2. It was just moved around by truck. There is now a Ju-87D that is in restoration to fly and it is similar to the G series.
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  976. +@timorvet1 I'm pretty sure that at some future date a long time from now B-17 "909" and "Texas Raiders" will be rebuilt to fly again. Although it may be decades from now.
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  977. +@tzsteve33 Technical Museum Berlin.
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  978. +@ronanrogers4127 It's a weapon lost on foreign soil during an act of aggression. Germany has no claim to it. They especially have no claim to it because the articles of surrender signed by Germany specifically includes forfeit of all weapons and production. As far as it being Russian property, back in the 1990s the Russians didn't want it and they did not understand why Westerners did. It was junk to them. It is different in Russia today and they are doing great work restoring aircraft. They restored both of the IL-2s that are flying and were working on a third and they also have done some A6M Zero work. Also I fail to under the "rot in place" concept from heritage laws for these old planes. They should be saved even for local museums where the rest.
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  979. +@joshuajethro There is a backstory to the recovery of the plane but I don't have much of that info. Paul Allen's museum was the third owner of the wreck, so things happened before they bought it.
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  980. +Revener666 The display aircraft was assembled with a BMW engine that had been used for instruction, so most likely an engine that is not serviceable for flight.
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  981. +John Niks Yes and no. Some of those aircraft are protected wrecks that cannot be touched.
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  982. +@vincetwinkleblech3614 A history group has examined the inventory list of captured aircraft brought to the US. There are a few from the list that are technically missing, lost in accidents, etc. When the AAF was done with them, many were donated to the Smithsonian. The rest were scrapped or donated to technical colleges. There is an Me-262 missing from Cornell University but they probably scrapped it. There is a missing Do-335, He-219, Me-262 and some others. Exploratory digs were done near Freeman Field looking for buried aircraft but so far they only found lots of spare parts and no identifiable aircraft.
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  983. +@user-op6eu3tt9j They were not interested 30 years ago when many wrecks left Russia. There is a very healthy restoration community in Russia now and they have been doing great work resurrecting several IL-2 aircraft and others. I would expect many lost Russian warbirds to be restored when the dust settles from the Putin era.
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  984. + TheSpinkels Correct, although it was the Smithsonian conducting the lab sample studies. Just wood and glue. The engines were also faired over in steel panels from front to back for heat shielding --- there was a lot of metal in it.
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  985. +@neeker1090 Copies of the wartime pilot manuals are available from various sources.
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  986. + Marting Davies The Stuka is property of Croatia and there wasn't enough interest to raise it, although I think a new historical group may try again.
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  987.  @MrTuftynut  Someone would have to make a trade with Croatia to get ownership of it and export it, plus recovery costs. Rotting in place as a heritage artifact is getting more common in small countries. It is not the best for the wreck and short-sighted by local leaders. Not forgetting that the costs to rebuild a rare Stuka would pay for several restorations of other warbirds.
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  988. +@davemcmahon8140 Werk. No. 494085 left the factory as a Ju-87D-5 and was later recycled for rebuild into a Ju-87G-2. It was captured by British forces still new from rebuild in May 1945. It was flown as test aircraft and later allocated for display. During a move by truck in the late 1960s or early 1970s a wingtip was damaged and after repair it was repainted in the current (and not correct) colors.
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  989. +@stephengordenier2608 No wrong aircraft. Five new Me-262s were built by a special project that is not related to Paul Allen's museum. But the Me-262s were finished at Paine Field.
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  990.  @anwarbowser2773  Vintage aircraft are restored and maintained equal or better than most GA aircraft flying. They are gone over with new electrics and hydraulics and fitted with many NOS parts that are still left from WW2. They also have lots of new metal in them remade from the factory specs.
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  991. +FishNFoolLures The Horten 229 program didn't really get that far. The unpowered V1 glider was test flown until it was severely damaged in a landing accident. The next prototype V2 was the first wing to fly with jet power--good for the Hortens--but it only flew for about two hours flight time until it was destroyed in a fatal accident. This was mid-Feb 1945. The thrid prototype V3 was still under construction when the workshop was overran by Allied forces. There really isn't much data other what was obtained from the Horten's notes and their interviews. The rest is just estimations. It wasn't designed for stealth or as fighter for that matter. It was original proposed as medium bomber. Flying wings were fuel efficient and the potential with jet power was speed. Speed and distance were the goals proposed by the Hortens, not stealth.
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  992. + malcolm carter Gotha had been selected as the eventual manufacturer of the production models and they did design work on some of the prototypes. So, per the RLM naming requirements, it would have been a "Go-229" with Go representing the manufacturer. (Unless the RLM allowed credit to the Horten brothers and used "Ho-229", similar to giving direct credit to Kurt Tank for designing the "Ta-152" instead of using "Fw-152.")
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  993. +@RCASSIN The Flying Heritage Museum has restored an original Me-262 for flight, but more testing is needed before test flights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPazuFQZE3o They are finishing a flyable Stuka as well.
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  994. +@garyburgmylifeandtimes6354 There are P-38s and Corsairs flying, although the P-38 population is low. No flying Stukas, but one flying project is almost complete.
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  995. +Bryan Wilkins Current operating costs with fuel, insurance, and maintenance is about $4500-5000 per hour and will probably continue to rise. So you know where that $475 is going. It isn't any cheaper with the single-seat types. And warbird rebuilder Tom Reilly's old comment on the round engines is still true-"When they stop leaking, you know they are out of oil."
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  996. + ZYBER WORLD The plane was engaged by Hurricanes before the pilot made a wheels-up landing. So it is thought to be engine damage, although I have read a few opinions that it was fuel. The plane toured as a war bonds display and spent years in storage in Canada. The original engine disappeared while it was stored in Canada.
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  997. +@ofeiliawotsits6080 The race pilots do not wear G-suits. As part of the investigation, the US Air Force and NASA were consulted on G-suit needs and concluded that a G-suit would not have made any difference in this violent accident. Therefore, the Reno race rules were not updated to require G-suits but pilots must attend G-load training to familiarize.
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  998. + Iain Picot No, the DB-605 powered Spitfire was destroyed in an Allied bombing raid on 14-August-1944
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  999. + David Carls There's no theory on this. The first Secretary of the Air Force Stuart Symington pressured Northrop to merge with Convair, but Northrop wouldn't do it. So Symington punished Northrop by killing the YB-49, destroying the blueprints and scrapping the last examples at the Northrop factory in direct view of the employees. Sounds like he was a real asshole. So the Air Force got the B-36 and Stuart Symington retired to a cushy job at Convair.
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  1000. + Edje001 Reinmar went to Argentina and continued aircraft design, while Walter remained in Germany and served in the post-war German Air Force.
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  1001. +@udoKischkel Northrop began construction on his full-size, long-range flying wing bomber in 1941. This was several years before the Horten brothers began the 229 program. The modern US flying wing bomber design is a direct continuation of the original YB design from Northrop.
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  1002. Jack Northrop was given money and the government contract to build his large YB-39 wing design in 1941, years before the Horten brothers started on the 229 program. The YB-39 is the direct ancestor to the B-2 and Northrop was years ahead of the Horten brothers, but they deserve credit for aerodynamic ideas.
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  1003. +The Journeyman There's an untouched one in original paint still in Australia.
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  1004. +@czeslawkwoka6038 I have no problem with Felton's channel. I do take the time to answer questions.
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  1005. + Michael Dunne Correct and well put. The V2 crashed on the very flight to measure some speed data. The entire 229 program was not mature at all, just three experimental prototypes that were not ready. Innovative, to give the Hortens their due credit. But it was not ready for service and not the wonder-weapon is has been portrayed to be.
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  1006.  @olli2591  The YB-49 was just the jet version of the YB-35 that Northrop began constructing in 1941 when they were awarded the contract. The N-1M was a research prototype and the N-9M was a one-third scale proof-of-concept of the YB-35. The wing program was slowed by subcontractor disputes, etc. Northrop didn't need anything from the 229 to complete the YB-49. And the B-2 just carries the YB-49 concept into the modern era. They are the same size and fly the same mission profile.
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  1007. +@rakishpotato4783 No, it is not airworthy.
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  1008. +@mitchsterling3266 Photos of the plane after it was cleaned showed that the insignia and factory codes were applied by hand with brushes. You can see brush marks in them. They were not applied by hand during the restoration, which would have made it slightly more accurate.
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  1009. + brian wheway No aircraft of this type has flown since 2003 when the last airworthy example crashed. Every single example today will have galvanic corrosion on the main wings from the steel and aluminum. Spars would have to be replaced. But, Pau Allen's museum was in the process of getting one rebuilt to fly recently.
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  1010. +@shaunmcclory8117 The Collings Foundation has started restoration on a Ju-87D-5 to airworthy condition, so it will be finished correctly I would hope.
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  1011. The documentary crew and a wildly speculating media appear to be one of their primary problems. They should be doing this search with less attention from people who don't know what they are talking about.
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  1012. +@tylerhirsch3578 The Pacific war was island to island. The logistics were not available to preserve examples that were not captured already. Much of what was not lost in the jungles was cleaned up by scrappers in the 1950s.
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  1013.  @tylerhirsch3578  I'm seeing that the Thai Railway Musuem has remains of a Ki-21, likely partial remains. I think there are some surprises out in the those jungles but permits, exporting and local corruption will make things very difficult to recover aircraft from Pacific islands.
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  1014. +@buckwheatINtheCity The BMW 801 engines that were produced in France were of such poor quality and out of spec that the NC 900 program was soon abandoned. They Germans would have found that out also. Ironically, the French continued to produce the Jumo 213 for Nord seaplanes that flew into the 1960s, so the Jumo 213 had a long life.
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  1015. +@HelixFoxx The accident conclusion came to a very inexpensive single-use locknut that should have been replaced with standard new ones that are available. If the race team had done more pre-race testing they may have realized that those connectors should have been replaced since they knew things were loose.
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  1016.  @HelixFoxx  Pilot fitness, age, or reaction time made no difference in this accident. None. The NTSB asked NASA and the US Air Force and concluded that a G-suit would not have helped. This was a flight control failure from worn parts. And it was an out-of-control aircraft with an unconscious pilot.
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  1017. +@hawnyfox3144 Doug Arnold had started restoring the Fw-190 before Paul Allen bought it and they were using new skins, though I'm sure you know that already. The original skins survived but I have no idea if they had been stripped of paint by that point. It was Paul Allen's decision to use the original skins and make the plane as authentic as possible. It sounds like a lot of work was put into the paint research early on with spectral photography and sample swatches created. It's a bit of mystery what determined the process at paint time though, not helped by strict information controls Vulcan Aviation is known for. I would say the outcome is good but could have been better. It's interesting that in the last years, Flying Heritage had switched to their own in-house painters. JME in the UK rebuilt the Fw-190 for Allen and they also did his Me-262 before they closed and again it's a shame that the process was not more public. I think the museum documented everything but it would but nice if all of the information was put into book. Paul Allen also bought the Fw-189 as another half-finished project. It all but disappeared after that. It was one of the projects that Paul Allen's sister was selling after his death but I don't know if it found a buyer. From the pictures it looked about 50-60% complete in bare metal. I always thought that the Fw-189 would look good in the winter white-wash, especially since it went down when it is possible it would have had those colors.
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  1018. + God Thunder I think it is fair to say that because of low cross-section and wood construction, the 229 had characteristics that today would meet the common understanding of "stealth." But in no way was the Horten program building a stealth airplane as some try to claim. Flying wing theory since the 1920s was low drag, better speed and fuel efficiency. This is what the the Horten brothers were selling to Goering when he gave them the money to start design-- a fast bomber.
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  1019. +@squidiebah The long-term restoration of Lanc "Just Jane" at the Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre is planned to be another airworthy example.
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  1020. + Esme n'haMaire Correct that the design theories from the 1920s and forward for tailless aircraft were for less drag, more speed and fuel efficiency. The Horten brothers sold their idea to Goering for speed and fuel efficiency. It is good that you touched on the wooden construction, because the speed estimations for the 229 were optimistic in my opinion, and I think there is a possibility that it would have experienced structural failures in testing.
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  1021. +Dieter Dödel Northrop did not need any German help when he started construction on his wing in 1941.
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  1022.  @ossgo92  An engine with slightly out of spec parts will start for acceptance testing. But it won't run for very long. Many late war engines were very poor quality, for example the French-built NC 900 made from leftover Fw-190 parts and engines did not last long due to the very poor quality BMW engines made by forced labor in France.
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  1023. + @GoodVideos4 Boeing didn't build them, it was a private company. Only one example went to Germany and the other four remain in the US. Also, only four of the five are flyable.
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  1024. +@justinsmith9791 The V3 example at the Smithsonian was incomplete and unpainted when it was captured. "Carbon" in the paint was only mentioned decades later in memoirs when stealth actually became a topic of interest in warplane design.
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  1025.  Big Dirt  Yes, very unlikely that the remains of any DB engine resting in saltwater for 50 years were usable for anything but static display. Allen's restorations usually source several engines for parts and fabricate what they they need. For the Fw-190, they located six BMW 801 engine cores to get enough correct parts. For their new Stuka project, they obtained at least ten Jumo 211s and researched others for correct parts. (Allen's museum is building several Jumo 211s I believe.) There is a Jumo 213 that is almost ready to run although the plane for it is gathering dust without any current work. Another 213 was almost finished in Germany when the owner gave up and sold the project. I think Allen's museum missed a couple of opportunities to grab another Fw-190D project offered for sale and get one in the air for the collection allowing them to keep the D-13 on the ground.
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  1026. +Andy Turchan Destroyed in 1944.
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  1027. + Roscoe P. Coltrane The Horten brothers sold the idea to Goering as a bomber, not as a fighter. Calling it a fighter is just wishful thinking. It was being built as bomber.
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  1028.  @chefchaudard3580  The YB-35 evolved in the jet-powered YB-49 and yaw control was a problem up until the entire program was killed by Sec. of the Air Force Stuart Symington more for political reasons than strategic. Northrop had developed a solution with mechanical yaw dampers just before the Symington killed the YB-49. Today it is better understood that tailless aircraft need sophisticated flight management better handled by computers.
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  1029.  @Upper-cr1kh  The Chinese have satellites passing over sensitive sites every few hours. A balloon drifting randomly around doesn't make a lot of sense for intel work.
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  1030.  @Upper-cr1kh  You can locate nuclear installations and military bases with Google Maps for free, so why bother will a balloon? The Chinese have been far more successful with H1 visa workers employed at tech and defense companies to steal secrets. But...let's just wait and see if there is a report on the balloon debris. If the story is true, three balloons drifted over the US during the last POTUS and he missed an opportunity to bloviate over it.
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  1031.  @Upper-cr1kh  Dumb is thinking a balloon with no steering drifting 5000 miles over the US will pass over the one square mile of territory that has strategic value. The Russians and the Chinese have satellites that collect reliable and predictable data every few hours.
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  1032.  @Upper-cr1kh  It missed all of the ones in North Dakota if you are being specific. The debris will probably be at Langley by mid-week, so let's see what they say if they speak about it at all.
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  1033. +@user-od3rl5mc Just Allen. His portfolio was split between real estate, sports, entertainment, aviation and museums/charity. His aviation company handled the planes. Allen's sister was his only heir and she changed his portfolio to close museum against his final wishes.
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  1034. + Mercedes-Benz E63-S AMG He had a nice runway very close by, but he ignored everyone on the radio saying that he was smoking badly and flew around for 20 minutes until his engine quit. And the emergency box to put down in the water was much farther offshore and specified in the mandatory pilot's meeting that this pilot skipped.
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  1035. +@bartschwartz9233 It's actually bad to start those planes over and over and park them. Corrosive contaminates build up inside the engines. So fly them or park them are the only choices.
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  1036. The next time you are in Gatow, see if you can get an update or separate video on the Lake Schwerin Fw-190D-9 rebuild.
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  1037. + Andy C The Japanese began experimenting with paint additives in 1943 to reduce the radar signature of IJN Navy aircraft and avoid detection. I would argue that Japan should get credit for stealth.
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  1038. +@Derail 69 There are few P-51s that have come out of the FL swamps. The remains of a P-51B recovered some years ago from a FL swamp just arrived at a shop in Minnesota for full restoration. Roush Aerospace restored a P-51B recovered from a FL lake, although I was disappointed that he painted it as "Old Crow" instead of the training colors flown by the young pilot who died in the crash.
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  1039. +@nated4488 It first went to the UK to the Arnold brothers and then it was sold to billionaire Paul Allen for his museum.
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  1040. +@kevinmalloy2180 The last mission was a short 15-minute flight to attack a Russian supply train and it was flying back. The pilot was making his way back to the German lines when he was captured by the Russians.
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  1041.  @nursesteve2004  "White 14" is BoB Bf-109E that is currently airworthy. A super rare "Condor Legion" Bf-109E from the Spanish civil war will fly in a few years.
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  1042.  Phil Earl  Only one WW2 original Fw-190 flies and has the BMW engine. The Flugwerk Fw-190 replicas were sold with ASh-82 engines, although at least two buyers installed R-2800s instead.
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  1043. +@Fladflidington The Japanese built a licensed version of the DB-601 engine. Although they lacked the expertise to manufacture precise tolerances so those engines were problematic.
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  1044.  @wolf310ii  And subsonic.
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  1045. + The Jack of all travels That aircraft is the B-24 "Lady Be Good" , which over flew their base on the way back from the first mission. The crew bailed out as the aircraft ran out of fuel, and they all died in the desert. The remains of the aircraft are still in Libya and now in protected storage. I think they are going into a museum there. One engine was on display at the USAF Museum at one time.
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  1046. + barfcoswill The 229 program was based on the theories that tailless aircraft were fuel efficient, not stealthy. The Horten brothers presented the idea to Goering as a fast and fuel efficient medium bomber design.
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  1047. + the random guy There is just one flyable Stuka project, but work is stopped for now. The engine and prop were fully tested and ready, and they were installing the electricals when the project was stopped.
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  1048.  @Theshropshireratter  The Horten brothers envisioned scaling up the design for a trans-Atlantic bomber, the Horten H.XVIII "Amerika" bomber. But this was an idea on paper. Remember that Northrop had already started on s similar concept in 1941 with the YB-35/YB-49 platform, years before the Hortens.
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  1049. +@silver740il The original WW2 "Memphis Belle" aircraft is not airworthy, as stated by the USAF Museum. The museum used period correct equipment throughout the aircraft to return it to authentic condition and many of these components are not suitable for a flying aircraft.
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  1050. +bconneau I am reading that the BMW engine they used was some sort of educational exhibit that was never used or assigned in wartime. The operational BMW 801 flown at the Flying Heritage museum is an absolute jewel. Two more BMW 801s will be operational and flying soon. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5d/e3/7e/5de37e52132ad1ddd964998f599c31d8.jpg
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  1051. +@ayrtonm7907 They might have been able to fly Kee Bird if they had not managed to set it on fire. The Fw-190 at Paul Allen's museum is also a rare find.
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  1052. +James Barca It is the same plane, ruined by the amateurish patch job done by Egyptians. Egypt reneged on returning it to the British for a museum.
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  1053. + @robertelmo7736 The 229 program was a research project with 3 prototypes. It was not a mature program that would have changed the war and it wasn't being built for stealth. Wing theory from the 1920s and 1930s was speed and fuel efficiency.
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  1054. + Ron Jon Reinmar Horton did not mention "stealth" until the 1980s in his memoirs. I think it was a bit revisionist when "stealth" was just becoming an aerospace topic. Nothing in the 229 design goals was about avoiding radar detection.
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  1055. +@rosesprog1722 There was no radar-absorbing paint. The V3 example surviving today was found still incomplete at the Gotha workshop and painted with a green fireproof coating.
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  1056. +@creightonleerose582 Allen's museum has never flown the Dora. It is a very rare Fw-190D-13 and the last example of the later Dora D-13 series. It should never leave the ground. There are some individuals and museums that have Dora projects, but nobody is in any big hurry to start or finish those projects. Somebody will get a Dora in the air one day, probably a Flugwerk replica first.
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  1057. +@Joe_Blow215 The 1945 ban on the swastika by the Allies in Germany is still in effect, with only a few revisions.
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  1058. +@terryhollands2794 There were a couple of experiments to put a turboprop on a P-51.
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  1059. +Boom Channel on Blitz No Spitfire has been found. More likely recycled with other discarded equipment.
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  1060. + Optimaloptimus50 50 The long answer, too.
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  1061. + Schlipperschlopper Schlipperschlopper The Stuka was a 1930s design and was outdated early in WW2. Nearly all of the same missions could be handled by the Fw-190A ground attack versions so there was no need for a major design change for the Ju-87.
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  1062. +David G. It was kept as a test/evaluation aircraft and went down from an engine fire in October 1944 with the loss of the British test pilot.
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  1063.  @istinaanitsi3342  The Yak-15 was designed from the Yak-3 platform and fitted with Soviet copies of the Jumo 004, re-branded as the Klimov RD-10 turbine. The Russian Mig-9 fighter was a new platform that used Soviet copies of the BMW 003 turbine, re-branded as the Klimov RD-20.
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  1064.  @istinaanitsi3342  The Soviets were behind on jet development at the end of WW2. Stalin wanted to fast-track a jet platform, so he ordered the German engines copied and Yakovlev moved quickly to adapt the Yak-3 to the jet engine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-os0KdUkDN0&t=277s
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  1065.  @istinaanitsi3342  Give your reasons why you believe the Me-309 was the source of the Yak-15.
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  1066. +Freesoler01 Also the 229 engines were covered in welded steel panels from front to back for fire protection. That would produce a lot of radar return.
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  1067. +@227beau I've read several times that they got the engine running for possible flying in the BoB movie but wisely decided the plane's old systems were too fragile for flight. However, I have never seen photo or video proof of the engine running. And there are home movies and behind the scenes photos and video from this movie and nobody documented the Stuka running if it did.
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  1068. +@otpyrcralphpierre1742 Australian-build P-51s still survive and some fly as the Commonwealth CAC Mustang.
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  1069.  @sandervanderkammen9230  Northrop continued with the XB-49 until Sec. of the Air Force Stuart Symington got mad at him for refusing to merge with Convair. Symington killed the wing program with prejudice and the Air Force was left with the B-36. Not that it mattered because the YB-49 was too unstable to be a precision long-range bomber platform, which means it failed in its desired mission.
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  1070.  @sandervanderkammen9230  After WW2 Reimar Horten went to Argentina and continued aeronautical research and design. Funny that the flying wing/229 or "stealth" aircraft were never revived by him or other nations, as if it were the ultimate aeronautical achievement outside of space flight. Two points here: 1) flying wings were too unstable as a platform and this is probably the main reason that work did not continue, and 2) Stuart Symington's political BS essentially ended flying wing research in the US putting the concept decades behind in what could have been learned and achieved.
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  1071. +@jeffp5162 New-build aircraft with GE turbines.
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  1072.  @jagtan13  I think I read recently that the owners of the Bf-109E at Planes of Fame may just leave it as-is instead.
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  1073.  @jagtan13  Me too.
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  1074. +Notmah Cuppatea Not in flyable condition.
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  1075. +@polaris5250 I'm not a fan of preserving the rot and damage inflicted on the airframe after it was captured. Perhaps it would need a huge budget but I'd rather see all of the wooden structure duplicated with new and the plane returned to the unfinished state it was in when it was found.
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  1076.  @danielmolinar8669  The Japanese were experimenting with mixing metal powders into aircraft paint for radar disruption starting in 1943. And the Smithsonian did not find any charcoal in samples from the V3 prototype, just glues, rotting wood, and fungus.
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  1077. + ub1953 Hughes was not granted permission to enter his Me-262 in the National Air Races. The very same Me-262 is now at Paul Allen's museum and has been restored to fly, but work is currently stopped as Allen's collection has been purchased by a new owner.
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  1078. + Pedro Leitao Jack Northrop was awarded a government contract to build his much larger flying wing in 1941. Northrop didn't need to copy anything from the Germans because they were doing their own work. The modern B2 is a continuation of the YB bomber program that was cancelled in 1949.
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  1079. +@mikebonk2162 It looks like Captain Lawrence Ritter was a decorated and experienced pilot, but he got caught in a freak snowstorm and went down. He wasn't found for seven months. I'm looking for the serial number of the P-47 to see if there had been any salvage, although from the description the wreckage was cleaned up or scavenged into nothing. Today the site is likely a memorial.
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  1080. + Cam Hunt Three Halifax survive worldwide, none flying. One intact Valiant survives, several Victors, and several Vulcans.
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  1081. +@kentuckycrittercamera9407 These were prototypes and each was different. The first prototype V1 was an unpowered glider used for flight tests until it was destroyed in a landing accident. The second prototype V2 was the first powered version with jet engines. It only achieved about two hours of flight testing before it was destroyed in a fatal accident on 18-February-1945. So the 229 program only managed about two hours of powered flight testing with little results. The V3 example which survives today was found incomplete and has never flown. The 229 program was not a very mature effort at the end of WW2.
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  1082. +@vapeguy3625 If I recall correctly, there were about seven fuel specifications (or recipes) for the Me-262, some of which could be mixed in the field (diesel oil, kerosene, etc.) Jet engines will burn a lot of fuels if they are mixed correctly. The jet engines on the B-36 were optimized to burn avgas so that the B-36 didn't need two types of fuel.
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  1083. +dark9hades Bones were tested in Cairo with inconclusive results. The bones were then lost during the military coup in Egypt.
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  1084. +@davejob630 This is a new aircraft with GE turbines. One restoration will be using carefully rebuilt Jumo engines in the future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPazuFQZE3o
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  1085. +@all.day.day-dreamer There are two intact Stukas and Paul Allen's flying example will become the third. Allen's museum doesn't have a D-9 but they have the only surviving and ultra-rare D-13 example. And I think it should remain on the ground permanently.
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  1086. +@chris-8092 Buyer Paul Allen had a multi-billion dollar portfolio. The museum was a small portion while some of his money went to other museums, philanthropy, and investments.
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  1087. +@Barnie-pi7mk There are enough flying Spits that I don't think it would be sacrilege for an owner to do this conversion for giggles for a little while.
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  1088. +Duhop0s The pattern is correct and the same camouflage that was on it after cleaning. JG54 had been recently allocated 12 Fw-190 aircraft, probably "White A" to "White L." There are photos of "White D" and "White K" in similar summer camouflage.
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  1089. + David Luck The He-115 is being slowly cleaned and assembled for static display in Norway. Since it was found, several other He-115 examples have been located, so perhaps one will be recovered and restored to taxi or even flying condition.
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  1090. +@fkier5963 Not forgetting that the Russians obtained a force-landed B-29 and copied it as the Tupelov Tu-4 and later built a turbo-prop version.
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  1091. + Sohrab Roozbahani They didn't fly much at all. This was an experimental aircraft program. The first example was a glider that was eventually destroyed during a bad landing. The second prototype did fly with jet engines, but only for about two hours total before a fatal crash. The third prototype that was captured and survives today has never flown. The Horten program was not mature and nothing was ready for production.
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  1092. + podwardog The fairings covering the engines front to back were welded steel for heat resistance.
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  1093. + Steve Wayne It wasn't a loose APU. The didn't wait to fix the fuel pump on the APU and tried to hang a can of gas near it for fuel, and this spilled and caused the fire.
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  1094. +@juki6377 The colors are correct and were documented in the UK when the plane was removed from Russia years ago.
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  1095. + Garrett Gustafson Which Bf-109? At the end of WW2, the Allies banned the swastika by law in many European countries, and this law is still in place. So the restoration agreement with Germany should already know that it cannot be displayed, so somebody was not communicating. Also, Germany has made some adjustments to the law and the swastika can be displayed in some educational exhibits. There are a few restored aircraft in German museums which actually do display the swastika for accuracy now.
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  1096. +@thewaryears This plane was lost in a remote area. But after WW2 Stalin did give orders to scrap everything for the raw materials to rebuild the Soviet military.
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  1097. +@davidmarkwort9711 The second prototype was the only powered example that flew, and only for about two hours of test time before the fatal crash on 19-Feb-1945. That crash essentially ended the Horten's efforts. The third V3 prototype was captured by Patton's forces while still incomplete in the Gotha workshop in mid-April.
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  1098.  @davidmarkwort9711  That's all that needs to be said. The Horten brothers blamed pilot Ziller for the fatal crash for not handing the single-engine recovery. They deserve due credit for the work that they did, but they did not invent stealth. Northrop didn't need to copy their ideas. And that NatGEO show hyped this this thing up into a magic UFO when it was only a prototype based on the 1920s and 1930s theories of tailless aircraft and fuel efficiency.
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  1099. +Douglas Daniel Goering allocated the money in late 1943, two full years after Northrop was funded to start building their large wing bomber. The Hortens only managed two hours of powered flight on their smaller prototype before the war ended. The captured example wasn't finished.
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  1100.  @juslitor  Only about two hours of powered test flying were completed on the smaller V2 prototype before a fatal accident. This was the only power flight completed by the 229 program. The larger V3 prototype designed by Gotha and now at the Smithsonian was incomplete when found and never flew.
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  1101. +@FindItFixIt Mr. Edwards passed away a few years ago, but he sold that collection of Buchons to a buyer in Sweden, I think, who then sold them again to individual collectors. Several are already back in the air. He was an early pioneer in warbird rescue in the 70s and 80s.
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  1102. + Spyke0511 1 This one is rebuildable but it will not be cheap. It will be a frame-up rebuild.
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  1103. + @Donovan Ferguson Would not be good if they'd dropped it on somebody's grandma in Missouri. Plus it would have just become a Biden/China conspiracy to rig the 2024 election with balloons.
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  1104. + Pista Bacsi This was not stunt flying, it was an air race. The age of the pilot had nothing to do with what happened. This was an out of control aircraft that no pilot regardless of age would have been able to stop.
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  1105. @Sharpp01 They were doing excellent work on the Dora from Lake Schwerin but I think they have been slowed down by lack of support and funding. It was in remarkable condition when it first came out of the water. There is a second Dora there but I think it was fatal and probably a war grave.
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  1106. +@iwaswrongabouteverything Wrecks are not usually worth as much as sellers think. In the 1990s a rare Fw-190 with no realistic path to restoration didn't sell for a lot, but a decent price. Paul Allen was the right investor to come along and put major money into rebuilding this Fw-190. The previous owners and interested buyers would not have gotten it back into the air. Restored examples do fetch a high price, but even the restored Bf-109s that have been for sale recently did not get the asking prices.
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  1107.  @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing  Extremely pricey for the rare German types and service intervals are more frequent than other engines flying at this time.
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  1108. + bigpardner Pictures and video have surfaced. It's toast but parts can be salvaged to complete another one.
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  1109. +Wizzle AT-6/SNJ painted in German markings.
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  1110. + 375GTB Arguably it was still mostly wartime original parts, and not a Buchon conversion or rebuild.
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  1111. +@BleuNeo It was a flight control failure and no pilot of any age would have survived this accident.
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  1112. +@AlexDahlseid2002 This surviving example began as a Ju-87D and it was recycled and rebuilt into a Ju-87G for tank busting. It was captured fresh from the rebuild so I don't know if the cannons were even fitted, and I've never seen it displayed with the cannons.
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  1113. +@zetrix6277 There is more than one firing order combination for a V12 engine depending on the design or requirements because they can create vibration loads. The typical order for the DB-605 is 1-8-5-10-3-7-6-11-2-9-4-12. However, various sub-series of the DB-605 may have a different order. The Merlin and the Griffon have a different firing order and they sound different because of that.
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  1114. +@jaykay7932 The Me-262 is kept at the Messerschmitt Museum in Germany, and is registered D-IMTT.
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  1115. +@rogeriopraglioli7744 The US project constructed five new Me-262s for customers, and four of those are flyable.
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  1116. +jaikumar848 The mechanics and recoil issues to put such a heavy weapon on a ship aside, the weight and space to store and move the shells on a ship would have made it impractical for any sustained rate of fire. But....if they could have engineered it as a submarine weapon (surface and a one-shot ship killer) that MIGHT have been interesting.
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  1117. +@jwenting There are only two flyable B-29s, plus static displays. I think Kermit weeks has part of a B-29 but he has so many projects going there is no knowing when he will get to it. I really think the Lake Mead B-29 should be raised from the water while the drought has dropped the lake, but it is property of the US Parks Service and they see it as an artifact.
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  1118.  @jasonpeacock9735  The Park Service seems to consider the aircraft a biological preserve at this point. Really stupid thinking.
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  1119.  @depj1000  The flight engineer survived. (I'm reading broken bones, small injuries.) So hopefully he can shed some light on this.
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  1120.  @tplyons5459  They do operate the GE engines using power settings to equal the Jumo turbines for safety reasons. Reserve power is available when needed.
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  1121. +@robotorch When the 229 was captured by Patton's army they found it incomplete in the workshop, and wings were found about 70 miles away. It was only about 50% complete, so I don't know how much additional work was performed on it after it was captured. I would not consider it a complete example and just an unfinished prototype. The Smithsonian has the wings, but in all of the period photos of it I have never seen any control surfaces present for it.
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  1122. + Mr Wilfred Myers The B-29 caught fire because they didn't stop to fix the fuel pump on the generator. Instead they rigged up a can of fuel that spilled and started a fire.
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  1123. +@carlitobrigante6304 It was legally purchased and exported by a UK collector first before it was bought by Paul Allen.
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  1124.  @carlitobrigante6304  The late warplane collector Jim Pearce was responsible for negotiating and exporting a lot of German aircraft from Russia in the 1990s, including Bf-109s, three Bf-110s, a Fw-189 and this Fw-190, and others. Doug Arnold obtained the Fw-190 for his company Warbirds of GB Ltd in 1991 and they began the research and restoration. Arnold then sold it to Paul Allen, who started over with the restoration.
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  1125.  @Leon_der_Luftschiffer  Operators have used stickers to fly with the markings in countries where it is allowed and remove them where the aircraft is registered and not permitted.
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  1126. + @tonedeafmagonigle3513 The wreck has been known locally since the 1970s. The sand moves around and covers it back up.
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  1127. +@soonerlon The late 1970s and 1980s was a big time for rescuing Latin American warbirds that were being retired and scrapped. The biggest cache was the Dominican Air Force P-51s there were retired in 1984.
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  1128. +@Atchangel_158 Plans are being made. Since the aircraft are still US Navy property, the Navy is likely part of the process and the planes will eventually go to US Navy museums.
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  1129. +@grahamschuh "Corn Fed Virgin", looks like it was a weather recon aircraft.
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  1130. + Lenny Robinson Those old planes drop like a brick with no engine power. I would say the pilot was out of altitude and out of options by that point. The question is already being brought up if flight displays should include a contingency that aircraft should maintain a flight display that allows quick return to the runway for emergencies.
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  1131. +@choppergirl Honest opinion. What doesn't rot away the PNG jungle will eventually be swept away for logging or mining rights. The wreck should at least be moved to a local memorial park for protection. Most of the PNG recoveries have been carefully negotiated, although some deals were less fair than others. Lots of local corruption there too. There are not many years left to save what is there, including crashes with MIA. The Fw-190 wasn't stolen either. It was a legal export for a UK expert who saved a lot of rare aircraft before they were lost.
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  1132. + Terry Curtin Yes, NTSB examination notes that when trim was lost the control stick would have been forced backwards from the loads on the controls and this would have been too strong for the pilot to hold. Not that it mattered because maximum G loading was at about 1/3 of a second and the pilot passed out.
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  1133. +El Greco This was not a stunt over the spectators. It was loss of control from worn-out stock parts that were too old to be used. More flight testing would have made them realize that those parts should have been replaced with new ones.
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  1134.  @elgreco8074  Leeward's estate was sued, RARA was sued as well as the engineers who built the plane in Texas. But I don't know the outcome of any lawsuits or settlements. The outcome from the NTSB findings was RARA moved the pylons farther from the spectators and P-51 operators were mandated to inspect and replace the worn parts with brand-new components in order to remain airworthy and compliant.
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  1135. +@rogernagel1041 One one original WW2 airframe is flyable and it has the BMW. There is a new restoration that just rolled out that will also fly with the BMW.
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  1136.  @demanischaffer  The Northrop model department made a wooden and fiberglass mock up of the 229. The original aircraft had a welded tube frame and steel panels around the engines for heat protection. There probably would have been more radar return.
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  1137. + Simon Russell There are two intact originals, plus wreckage or pieces from maybe seven or eight more. The wreckage from two examples has been used to engineer a new flying example, but work is paused while the project moves to a new owner. The work is stunning.
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  1138. +Ben MIz A deal WAS made. There was a military coup in Egypt weeks before it was to be returned to the RAF Museum, and nothing happened. The bones were "lost". The Egyptians kept the plane and made a duct tape repair job, spray painted it, and squished it onto a cement pedestal.
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  1139. +@jools182 Paul Allen bought it from the first owners who were already working on it in the UK. Allen's museum started over with the restoration.
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  1140. +Mutt T. Whopull Destroyed at Tempelhof Airport in July 1944 during a bombing raid.
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  1141. +@WillemSandfort The third V3 prototype that survives today was incomplete and has never flown. To give credit to the Horten brothers, the first V1 prototype glider flew until it was written off in a landing accident. The second smaller V2 prototype did fly with jet power but only for about two hours of testing before a fatal crash.
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  1142. +@justincase2291 His museum has American, Japanese, British, and German planes and vehicles. He did use his money to find the rarer stuff, which happened to be German.
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  1143. +LIam White The pilot was an experienced commercial airline captain. The engine was failing and he attempted a return but the engine died and those heavy planes do not glide very far without power. The freeway was his only option and there was little power for a perfect landing.
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  1144. +@alkitzman9179 The Bf-109G at Oshkosh was a brand-new restoration and it was delivered to a collector in Texas, in the San Antonio area I think. Another Bf-109G has just taken flight after restoration in Hungary and it's going to a collector in Canada.
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  1145. + Orion Constellation That would be an excellent recovery if the local officials would permit such an operation.
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  1146. +Entity 282 Another recovery group was attempting to get a second P-38. It has been a while since they provided updates and they were having weather and equipment problems--no updates in several years. I haven't heard or read anything in a long time. (And actually I think several recovery groups are trying to get the planes.) I think all of the planes should come out eventually, even the crushed B-17s.
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  1147.  @Kirk-d7v  The B2 is the redesign of the YB-35/YB-49 prototypes designed by Northrop in 1941. Same size and same mission.
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  1148. @Bollalillo Most rebuilds done today are better than factory new and incorporate many new parts. A brand-new airplane can just as easily suffer a part or control failure. Critical parts from engines are checked and x-rayed with modern technology to look for any problems. These rebuilds are taken seriously 99% of the time.
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  1149. +@Siabot10 It is painted in the colors that were on it when it crashed. The forest photos just show the very oxidized paint from 40 years of UV light.
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  1150. +History Buff There is another recovery effort for another Greenland P-38, although they had weather/equipment difficulties haven't updated in very long time.
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  1151. +Stephen Morgan The Russell Group sold the Bf-109E a couple of years ago. It' is now in the UK and has returned to flying after engine and propeller servicing. It's flying out of Biggin Hill.
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  1152. +@rbaxter286 The smaller V2 prototype was the only example to fly under power and with jet engines, but for only about two total hours of testing, per the notes during interrogation of the Horten brothers. On 18-Feb-1945 during a flight to measure basic performance numbers, the V2 suffered a single engine failure with a fatal crash which killed test pilot Ziller. For all practical purposes, this was the end of the 229 program. The Gotha-designed V3 was captured very incomplete on 14-April-1945 along with the tube frames for the V4, V5, and V6. The incomplete and never flown V3 survives today although a rotted mess from outdoor storage and neglect.
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  1153. +@davegreenwood1663 The JG54 colors are the same that were on it from July 1943 on the Eastern Front. They were using the forest camouflage colors and the wreck was documented after it was cleaned and washed.
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  1154. +@sadev101 Not at all. The V3 229 prototype was first given to the UK to study and then back to the US by August 1945. It remained in Ohio until all of the captured aircraft were up for disposal and General Hap Arnold wanted to save some for posterity. The aircraft that were to be saved were moved and stored in an empty hangar at Orchard Field, Chicago until they were donated to the Smithsonian in 1949-1950. Meanwhile, Northrop's manufacturing for his flying wing was in California.
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  1155. +@BombshellCreations Only a few items were sold from Allen's collection. One of the heirs to the Walmart fortune has bought Allen's museum and hopefully his original vision will continue. Pau Allen left money from his fortune to fund the museum but his sister changed the terms after his death.
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  1156. +@leileijoker8465 The Japanese started researching radar disrupting paint additives in 1943 for Navy aircraft. So they should get some credit for early stealth ideas.
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  1157. +phantom gaming The "Lady of the Lake" B-29 is at Eielson AFB, Alaska and it was submerged there for water rescue training. There is a B-29 in Lake Mead and I believe that it should come out, but it is under control of the US Park Service and sacred cow to them.
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  1158. + @donaldchetterscheid9647 The Mossie that crashed years ago in the UK is being reconstructed in the UK, but I don't think it is finished yet.
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  1159. +@angelogarcia2189 This is a new-build aircraft with GE CJ610 turbines. Several were made.
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  1160. + @Matt JaxDad The balloon was at 70,000 feet in sub-zero temps. That's the equivalent of sneezing and hoping someone 13 miles away might catch your cold. Covid was far more successful just spreading through airline travel.
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  1161. +Have Lender Will Travel Mechanical failure in the flight controls from out-of-spec parts. Unrecoverable for the pilot because of flight loads on the controls and severe G-loads on the pilot. Also a failure in the decision process to reuse the worn parts and not completing more flight testing. There were lawsuits.
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  1162. +@jukkatakamaa7274 The naming convention from the RLM for new aircraft in Germany included "Versuch" or "attempt" or "experiment." Prototype aircraft would typically be the type followed by a V. The Horten 229 program produced three prototypes, all different and named V1 to V3. V1 was an unpowered glider, destroyed during a landing. The V2 was the first jet-powered prototype and also destroyed in a fatal crash after engine problems. (Also killing the 229 test pilot Ziller.) The example that is in the Smithsonian Museum is the V3 prototype that was captured in mid-April 1945 at the Gotha workshop still unfinished and never flown. Also inside the Gotha workshop were the steel frames for the V4, V5, and V6. It is likely that the V4-V6 were probably destroyed in place at the shop. During the Summer of 1945 while the RAF were given an opportunity to examine the V3, British Intelligence attempted to locate the wreckage of the V1 and V2 but were never able to find them.
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  1163. +@ComteDeGracey One of four new-build and flyable examples with GE CJ 610 turbines.
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  1164. +@DeadChavez It was exported from Russia 30 years ago.
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  1165.  @mattipeltola8949  The Horten brothers never really got any speed data on the smaller V2, so speed estimates are just calculations on paper. If the 229 could have been constructed with stressed-skin methods, had reliable engines and flight controls then it could have been fast. Constructed with plywood and sheet metal over a welded tube frame, I question if the 550-600 mph estimates were realistic or if it would fall apart under loads. The late-war Tempests and other high-power piston designs (P-51H, etc) could have probably countered any fast bomber formation. Also the Meteor and P-80 were becoming operational.
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  1166. +jimj.9106 The Germans developed a rubberized coating for submarines that was intended to lower the sonar signal. It would have never many any sense to wrap an aircraft in several thousand pounds of rubber to avoid radar.
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  1167. +waikukujk All of the BoB Buchons and CASA 2.111 were retired and put up for sale after the movie. Most of the Buchons (Bf-109s) found homes with collectors, but the majority of the 2.111s did not find buyers and were scrapped. But some of those 2.111 are still around.
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  1168. +@lightmatter The front wheel on the V3 prototype was taken directly from the He-177.
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  1169. + Isaacs Random Videos The swampy B-29 is on USAF property in Alaska. It was a water rescue training site. I think the Air Force should allow it to be removed but I suspect it will never happen.
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  1170. + ufoengines The Me-262 Jumo engines are started with a 10hp petrol engine that is clutched to the turbine shaft.
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  1171.  @ufoengines  The two-stroke engine on the Jumo turbine also has an electric start option that the pilot can operate from the cockpit. The pull start is an option for the ground crew.
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  1172. +@moritamikamikara3879 If there was no active combat around the reservoir, I suspect that the wreckage was already raised both to remove it and recover the aircrew.
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  1173. +yoda brain There are MIA teams and officials still working on war dead (also peacetime accidents), so remains would be examined, identified and returned to family or the individual's country. Or the wreck could be designated as a war grave if remains are left in place.
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  1174. +@simonayers8033 A well-known collector from the UK negotiated and legally exported a substantial number of WW2 wrecks in the years after the fall of Russia. From memory, at least 40+ aircraft and many of those are waiting restoration.
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  1175. +@Cop324 It can be displayed for education exhibits and discussion, but it is still banned. The law allows some gray areas.
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  1176. +Tman Bricks They didn't. And made a royal mess of the plane for a display.
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  1177.  @brucebeauvais1324  There's another flying example being restored in MN. I haven't checked for any updates on the project.
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  1178.  @menkros1  Only if the crew started the APU since it is not on during flight.
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  1179. +@bobgomez9481 That's about the best video quality you can expect from post-Soviet 1989 video cameras.
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  1180. +@MasterClassComments Paul Allen was the third owner of the plane. Collector Jim Pearce was the person responsible for exporting it from Russia, along with many other wrecks in the 1990s.
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  1181. +@SeryKotara Fourty years ago, the Russians didn't care about those old planes and didn't understand why Westerners did. Today very good restoration work is being performed in Russia.
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  1182. +Double Aught It's been verified for over seven years.
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  1183. + @coryreinhart3469 No. Flying wings would be difficult for supersonic flight because of instability. The Horten prototypes only managed a few hours of flying time before crashes. One Me-262 pilot made claims of breaking the sound barrier while diving, but from his description he just bounced around in the trans-sonic envelope with buffeting.
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  1184. +dogiit1 No new 109s have been constructed. If you count up the number of surviving examples in museums worldwide, the number comes to around 80. Plus a decent amount of wrecks left in situ that may never be recovered or restored.
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  1185. +@sumsungtap4183 Firstly, it was lost in action on foreign soil and Germany would have no claim to it whatsoever, even symbolically. Secondly, when the Soviet Union collapsed in the early nineties the Russians had zero interest in those old wrecks and did not understand why Westerners did. (They understand today however.) An experienced collector from the UK negotiated purchase and export of multiple wrecks from Russia. Billionaire Paul Allen was the third owner of the Fw-190 after the second owner had already started a restoration. And Allen used his money to return the Fw-190 to the nearly perfect and correct example that it is. The restorations that he had paid for have set the bar much higher than any millionaire collector has been able to achieve.
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  1186. +@gregkrueger331 I've wondered if it was a sloppy mechanic when the engine was changed. But there is a lot of evidence of engine sabotage by the forced labor used to make them, such as a simple change of machining to make parts out of tolerance.
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  1187.  @jduff59  The RAF scrapped the second captured Ta-152, maybe at Farnborough. So I wonder if there has ever been any effort to determine if it was buried or carted off to the smelter. Also it would be a big effort to research and locate the few downed Ta-152 crash sites or scrapping locations in Germany and perform digs in hopes for a data plate.
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  1188. +@andron967 The 229 program only managed to fly the second prototype V2 with jet engines for about two hours of testing before a fatal crash in February 1945. There wasn't enough flight testing to prove if the platform was viable. Each prototype was different and the next prototype V3 was designed by Gotha and never flew.
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  1189. +Richard S They didn't.
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