Comments by "TruthWarrior" (@Truth-warrior-j3e) on "TalkTV"
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Well, every worker earning a wage is contributing to the economy by doing the work they are employed to do eg catering industries, care sector, NHS, building, etc etc. The contribution to an economy is primarily the work not the tax except for the highest income levels. The key word in your statement is also “if”. First of all, undocumented immigrants are not allowed to work and that certainly does not contribute to the economy. By and large however all immigrant applications have quite high income threshold requirements for a visa to be issued. In the UK, the minimum income thresholds for immigrants applying for various types of visas are generally tied to specific visa categories, especially for work-related visas. Here are the key thresholds:
1. Skilled Worker Visa
- General Salary Threshold: The general minimum salary requirement is £26,200 per year or the "going rate" for the specific job role, whichever is higher. Some roles have different going rates.
- New Entrants: If you are classified as a "new entrant" to the job market (e.g., younger than 26, recent graduates), the threshold is £20,960 per year or 70% of the going rate for the role.
2. Global Talent Visa
- There is no specific salary requirement for the Global Talent Visa. Instead, it is based on endorsement by a recognized UK body in fields such as academia, research, arts, and digital technology. It is reasonable to assume that many of these jobs would be quite high paying.
3. Health and Care Worker Visa
- This visa has a minimum salary threshold of £20,960 per year, or the going rate for the occupation, whichever is higher.
4. Intra-Company Transfer Visa
- The minimum salary threshold for an intra-company transfer is £45,800 per year or the going rate for the job, whichever is higher.
- For the Graduate Trainee route (a subtype of this visa), the minimum salary threshold is £24,220 per year or 70% of the going rate for the job.
5. Innovator and Start-Up Visas
- These visas do not have specific income thresholds, but applicants must demonstrate that they have sufficient funds to support themselves without needing to work elsewhere.
6. Settlement (Indefinite Leave to Remain)
- If applying for settlement after holding a Skilled Worker visa, the salary requirement is £27,000 per year or the going rate for the job, whichever is higher.
7. Other Visas
- Family visas (e.g., Spouse Visa): Applicants must demonstrate a minimum income of £18,600 per year, with higher thresholds if there are dependent children.
These thresholds can be subject to change based on government policies, and some roles or visa types might have different requirements. Additionally, the "going rate" for a job is specific to each occupation and can vary significantly.
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You are factually incorrect. To be clear, the reference you're making likely stems from a controversial claim made by political figures or commentators, particularly during debates or accusations about Keir Starmer, the leader of the UK Labour Party. The connection to Jimmy Savile, a notorious figure who was revealed posthumously to have been a prolific sex offender, often arises in the context of criticism of Starmer’s past role as Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) in the UK.
Before becoming the leader of the Labour Party, Starmer served as the Director of Public Prosecutions from 2008 to 2013. As DPP, he was the head of the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS).
Savile was a well-known TV personality in the UK who, after his death in 2011, was found to have committed numerous sexual offenses over several decades. The scale of his crimes was only fully revealed after his death, leading to widespread public outrage.
Critics have sometimes attempted to link Starmer to the failure to prosecute Savile during his time as DPP. The argument is that under Starmer’s watch, the CPS did not bring charges against Savile, despite allegations being known. However, it's important to clarify that the decision not to prosecute Savile was made by local prosecutors in 2009, before some of the more significant evidence came to light. Starmer has publicly stated that the CPS under his leadership reviewed the case later and issued an apology for the failure to pursue the charges at the time.
This claim has been used politically, most notably by Prime Minister Boris Johnson during a heated debate in the House of Commons in early 2022. Johnson suggested that Starmer had "failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile," a statement that was widely criticized and led to controversy. Many viewed it as an unfair and misleading attack, and some Conservative MPs even distanced themselves from the remark. Johnson later clarified his statement, but the incident remains a significant moment of tension between the two political leaders.
The claim linking Keir Starmer to the failure to prosecute Jimmy Savile is largely regarded as misleading, as the decision not to prosecute was made by others, and the full extent of Savile's crimes was not known at the time.
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I would love to know how you come to this conclusion. The United Kingdom is not becoming an Islamic state. The UK is a secular country with a diverse population that includes people of various religious beliefs, including Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, and many others, as well as those who are non-religious. The UK has a long-standing tradition of religious tolerance and freedom, and its legal and political systems are based on secular principles, with the Church of England having a symbolic role in some aspects of governance.
The idea that the UK is "becoming an Islamic state" is a misconception often propagated by misinformation or fearmongering. While the Muslim population in the UK has grown in recent decades, it remains a minority, and there is no evidence or credible movement towards establishing Islamic law (Sharia) as the law of the land in the UK.
In summary, the UK is not becoming an Islamic state; it remains a multicultural, secular society that respects the rights and freedoms of all its citizens.
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@neillaw Incorrect, asylum seekers come from a wide variety of countries, not just France. People seek asylum when they are fleeing persecution, conflict, or serious human rights violations in their home countries. The countries of origin for asylum seekers can vary widely depending on global events, political situations, and conflicts.
In Europe, many asylum seekers may pass through France on their way to the UK or other destinations because France is geographically close. However, these individuals typically originate from different countries outside of Europe, such as Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, and many others. They often travel through multiple countries, including France, to reach their final destination.
France itself is not a major source of asylum seekers, but rather a transit or destination country for those fleeing difficult situations elsewhere.
Due to Brexit the UK is no longer covered by the Dublin Agreement which required France to take back asylum seekers that originated from France.
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@sugarkane4830 statements to the effect that immigrants are able to get PIP UC benefits are highly misleading. In reality the eligibility is strict and genrally applies to approved residence status. Whether immigrants are under this illusion or not is another question. Here are the facts: eligibility depends on several factors, including your immigration status, residency, and specific rules related to each benefit.
1. Personal Independence Payment (PIP)
Habitual Residence Test: To be eligible for PIP, you generally need to pass the Habitual Residence Test. This test looks at whether you have a right to reside in the UK and whether your presence in the UK is lawful.
Right to Reside: You must have a right to reside in the UK. This right can come from being a British citizen, having indefinite leave to remain (settled status), or being a national of an EU/EEA country or Switzerland with pre-settled or settled status under the EU Settlement Scheme.
Presence in the UK: You usually need to have been present in the UK for at least two out of the last three years (104 out of 156 weeks) before applying for PIP. However, there are exceptions for refugees and people with humanitarian protection.
Asylum Seekers: Generally, asylum seekers are not eligible for PIP unless they have been granted refugee status or humanitarian protection.
2. Universal Credit (UC)
Right to Reside and Habitual Residence Test: Like PIP, to claim UC, you must have a right to reside in the UK and pass the Habitual Residence Test. This includes showing that you intend to stay in the UK long-term.
Settled Status or Pre-Settled Status: EU/EEA nationals and Swiss nationals need to have pre-settled or settled status under the EU Settlement Scheme to be eligible for UC.
No Recourse to Public Funds (NRPF): Many immigrants have a visa condition that states they have "no recourse to public funds" (NRPF). This means they cannot claim most welfare benefits, including UC. However, if you have indefinite leave to remain, refugee status, or humanitarian protection, you may be eligible despite this condition.
Work-Related Benefits: If you are working and meet the other criteria, you might still qualify for UC, especially if you have settled status or another recognized residency.
Specific Scenarios:
Settled Status: Immigrants with settled status (indefinite leave to remain) are generally eligible for both PIP and UC, provided they meet the other criteria for each benefit.
Pre-Settled Status: Those with pre-settled status may be eligible for UC, though there are additional requirements. They might face restrictions when applying for PIP unless they meet specific criteria, like having a history of lawful residence.
NRPF Condition: If your immigration status includes a "no recourse to public funds" condition, you are generally not eligible for UC or PIP unless you have settled status or specific exemptions.
Asylum Seekers: Asylum seekers waiting for a decision on their claim are not eligible for PIP or UC but may receive support through the asylum support system.
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