Comments by "David Ford" (@davidford3115) on "Will the Netherlands scrap Net Zero: Farmers Protests Explained" video.

@alanjenkins1508 Then why do farmers plant Alfalfa? Ever heard of soil depletion? How about crop rotation? We solved these problems almost 100 years ago and yet the bureaucrats who have never farmed in their life seem to think they are experts in farming. China's Great Leap Forward Famine and Ukraine's Holodomor are what happens when you tell farmers how to do their job.
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They also don't seem to realize that nitrogen in the soil is what makes plant growth possible. Farmers will sometimes alternate with Alfalfa to restore the nitrogen in the soil and prevent depletion which would make the soil barren. Yet another example of city urbane elites not understanding basic botany, and why they should never be dictating to farmers.
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Nitrogen in the soil isn't pollution, it actually enhances it. There is a reason why farmers alternate with Alfalfa; the nodes in the plant's roots have nitrogen fixing bacteria that prevent soil depletion.
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@dadikkedude Nitrogen in the soil doesn't cause it to lose live, it actual ENAHNCES it. Plants like Alfalfa have nodes on their roots that contain nitrogen fixing bacteria which helps to prevent depletion. That is why crop rotation is so important. The desire to reduce soil nitrates will actually cause it to become as barren as the Sahara.
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@katarn848 That sounds like a false canard. Typical drivel you would expect from people who subscribe to Lysenkoism and Michurinism.
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@EraYaN Just because the plans have been around for two decades doesn't mean they are actually good plans. Advances in agro-technology has made both animal and plant husbandry MUCH more productive, on the order of 5 to 10 times over "natural" farming. If you like having a full belly, thank a farmer. If you enjoy this modern lifestyle, thank a farmer for making it possible. Fact of the matter is, if you implement the polices you are advocating, you WILL cause a famine comparable to the Ukrainian Holodomor or the Chinese Great Leap Forward Plague. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Don't engage in pseudo-science. Don't be Trofim Lysenko, the "expert" who is the cause of Soviet-Communist artificial famines.
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@EraYaN That "livestock is inefficient so we should abandon it completely" argument has been made since the 1920s. It was wrong then and it is wrong now and is predicated on a THEORY of land use efficiency that completely ignores the nutritional needs of the human body. It is the same kind of flawed logic behind Lysenkoism. In fact, the proposals are the very cause of the Chinese Famine, if you bother to actually look at the root cause. Meat from livestock gives us the Vitamin B12 we will NEVER get from either plants or insects. And that is not the only nutrient deficiency that will be caused by completely eliminating livestock as a food source from the human diet.
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@EraYaN You say that, but I know you have not considered the unintended consequences. And no, famines caused by technocratic bureaucrats are NOT a strawman argument. They are but ONE of the unintended consequences I described. Again, you really need to look into how such central planning fails spectacularly. Sri Lanaka's collapse is a direct result of your proposals.
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@EraYaN I don't think you actually understand how the farming industry actually works. I don't think you realize how your proposed polices will actually make artificial famine because you are NOT actually looking at the chain of impacts and how they WILL cause food shortages. The Un has already assessed that there will be massive starvation across the planet, and you want to make that worse by shutting down productivity. Sri Lanka is simply your policies on a local-national level. Taken to the global scale as you propose will not solve the problem, it will increase it by several orders of magnitude. Much like in Sri Lanka, you are completely ignoring actual human behavior, assuming the best case rather than a realistic outcome. Such idealism causes more human suffering than it prevents.
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@EraYaN And now you are engaging in the very same false choice dilemma you claim I was doing. Humans are OMINVORES which means we get sustenance for a variety of places. But there are some nutrients that can only come from plants, and there are some that can only come from animals. And Russia is an easy excuse. You seem to have forgotten that the UN was sounding the alarm back in 2020! And at that time, they were pointing to the supply chain disruptions caused by the Wuhan Virus lockdowns. And folks like you claim Americans have a short memory.
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@EraYaN Your first paragraph is moving the goal posts, a logical fallacy. The second paragraph shows that you know very little about economics or how international trade works. You very much use Russia as a convenient scapegoat so that you can avoid defending the repercussions of your ideology. In effect, you refuse to accept responsibility for the consequences of your disastrous policy proposals. Typical behavior of a religious zealot. As for your third paragraph, your words show you are in ivory tower elitist with very little ground level perspective. You think you know all the answer from on high when that just shows how out of touch with reality you actually are. You are as Marie Anntonette telling the peasants to "just eat cake".
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Indeed. The people preaching don't seem to understand that farmers will often plant Alfalfa to restore nitrogen to the soil. These city urban liberals think they know more about biology and botany than the farmers.
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@Doubleranged1 I seriously doubt that there is too much nitrogen in the soil. Alfalfa is planted specifically to INCREASE soil nitrogen and prevent depletion; the node in the roots contain nitrogen fixing bacteria. It is clear that the politicians and bureaucrats in Brussels don't have a clue about farming nor basic botany. Again, city urban liberals trying to tell farmers how to do their job. And the results are always the same: from China's Great Leap Forward Famine to the Ukrainian Holodomor. Never dictate to a farmer how to do his job.
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@mormacil Indeed. These fools in government don't seem to realize that farmers will often rotate with Alfalfa to replenish the nitrogen in the soil, thereby preventing soil depletion.
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You realize that farmers plant Alfalfa specifically to restore the nitrogen depleted from the soil?
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@Jamie_Johnson At what cost? Famine of biblical proportions? That is the problem with you neo-Pagan Gaia worshipers (aka climate activists), you don't care about the suffering of humans so long as your goals are accomplished. Never mind that during the Mesozoic era the Earth was TEN DEGREES CELCIUS WARMER. You blatantly ignore the laws of thermodynamics, namely the conservation of matter and energy.
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