Comments by "David Ford" (@davidford3115) on "Gravitas: Threat of nuke disaster: Russian forces fire 80 rockets from nuclear plant site" video.

If they accepted that Crimea was Ukrainian, and acknowledged Ukrainian sovereignty, I seriously doubt that the Ukrainians would force CIVILIANS to leave. That is the thing about moving into another country; you HAVE to accept the local laws and customs and endeavor to be a citizen. To refuse to assimilate is to be an invader, occupier, and colonizer.
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Crimea was never Russian homeland, it was Ukrainian. Now, if those folks accepted Ukrainians sovereignty and jurisdiction, then something tells me the Ukrainians would have let them stay IF they assimilated and became citizens of Ukraine.
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@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana That is pure wishful thinking. NATO by providing arms to Ukraine shows that it IS willing to militarily support others against incursions and invasions. Finland and Sweden joining NATO with Austria considering it is a complete and unmitigated disaster for Russia as the frontier they now have to defend is two to three times as long as it was before the invasion.
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Oh, I agree. And I hope that the Ukrainian soldiers show great magnanimity (food, safe passage, etc.) towards the civilians to further drive hope the point that this conflict is against the Russian government and not its people.
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Indeed. Ukraine has stated for years they didn't want the bridge across the Kerch Strait because it would block shipping to the ports on the Sea of Azov. Make no mistake, that bridge Putin cherishes so much is right in their crosshairs; this was practice for taking out that bridge.
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@svanimation8969 Yeah, how did that come about? Was it because Russia deported most of the ethnic Ukrainians? Joseph Stalin, Putin's hero was well known for doing that. Take Konigsberg, for example. That was a GERMAN city before Stalin changed it to Kaliningrad.
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I think you have been drinking way too much vodka.
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@ekaterinalokshina2043 "Crimea voted to stay in the USSR in 1991. But they were betrayed." You mean like how the people of Iraq voted for Saddam at 98% of the votes cast? Or Kim Jong Un getting 99% of the votes cast in his election? Spare me you Kremlin talking points.
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@svanimation8969 Actually, pointing out KONIGSBERG IS an appropriate analogy. In both cases Russia (because the Russian SSR dominated the whole of the USSR) forcefully ejected local populations and replaced them with colonists. Then you have other examples such as the forced expulsion of Poles from the areas annexed by the USSR under the Molotov-Ribbentrop alliance. Same goes for Romanians in certain annexed areas such as Moldova. Likewise, the Baltic States had lost of their population deported by the Russians after WW2. The point is, Russia and its various governments have a history of doing the very thing you accuse the Ukraine, yet the Ukrainians have NEVER done the same. You are a Bolshevick propagandist who is pathetically trying to rewrite history.
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@ekaterinalokshina2043 You think democracy under the USSR is legitimate but that recent elections that reject a return to the old Soviet system are not? And with that you show your true colors. You don't actually care about the will of the people; you only care that elections act as a rubber stamp to legitimatize tyranny.
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@ekaterinalokshina2043 Proof by verbosity is not an argument, it is a logical fallacy. You are not convincing anyone; you are just putting them to sleep with the trite Kremlin talking points.
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@ekaterinalokshina2043 Good, so don't conflate OPINION and wishful thinking for facts, which is what many propagandists do. The best (ie most effective) lies and myths contain half-truths to give it the appearance of legitimacy. Your is just that, partial truth surrounded by missing context and misrepresentations to make the preposterous components seem reasonable. "Tell a lie often enough and people will take it for the gospel truth," -Joseph Gobbels
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Russian military occupying that power plant is a war crime. Even the UN, particularly the IAEA has called it out for being verboten.
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@khaleesid5285 That is not an argument, it is an emotional outburst. Try actually looking up the Law of Armed Conflict. While power stations ARE legitimate targets for military strikes, using them as munitions dumps and supply locations IS a war crime if done by individual units and a crime against humanity if done broadly by military leadership. The nuclear component only further reinforces the fact that what Russia is doing occupying it as a strong point is criminal. It is no different than the Nazis in World War 2 using Catholic Churches in Italy as defensive positions.
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Indeed. The Russian citizens could stay IF they accepted Ukrainian sovereignty and jurisdiction. Assimilate and become citizens of Ukraine that just happen to be of Russian heritage and I'm sure the Ukrainians would not have a problem.
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@svanimation8969 You have that bass ackwards. Most of the atrocities in Donbas were the RUSSIANS. They were purging the people sympathetic to Ukraine. It was ethnic Ukrainians who were being "cleansed" from the Donbas. Do keep in mind that since 2014, Ukrainian authorities had zero control over the area; it was Russian agents who were in charge. Kind of like Transnistria.
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@svanimation8969 More hyperbole from Pravda. Spare me. The deaths in Odessa were solely because of Russian artillery and airstrikes.
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@svanimation8969 Russia unofficially occupied Donbas in 2014. Ukraine had ZERO influence in that area. Further, the Finns, Swedes, Austrians, and Swiss don't believe your claims. The fact that both Russia and the local rebels in Donbas refused outside NGOs from investigating both those claims as well as the Malaysian Flight 17 crash site and debris further puts to lie your false claims.
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