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Indeed. In many ways the Imperial Japanese soldier had much in common with a modern Jihadi.
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@Odah_ Phillipe Petain really did a number on France's military power in WW1 behaving much like a Russian general does today. I don't know how you can call that a victory for France.
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Was it Kyoto or Kokura? "Luck of Kokura" was with Ted Fujita.
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There was even a two-time survivor. He lived through the first bomb, was sent to Nagasaki, and lived through that one as well.
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Indeed. They were being opportunists, not serious belligerents.
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@dominusvolpus8031 More likely we would have dropped the third one on Kokura, the original target of Bockscar and Fatman.
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Yeah, the story sounds similar to one from before the Wuhan Virus insanity.
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Indeed. The Berlin Wall wasn't to keep people out, it was to keep them in. Complete inverse of the Wall on the US southern border.
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WRONG. The USSR didn't declare war and invade until TWO DAYS AFTER Hiroshima. They continued pushing on Japan taking the Kuril Islands long after Japan had surrendered.
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@MI6 I never said that YOU insinuated that. Try actually reading what I wrote rather than just jump to conclusions.
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We had the infamous "Demon Core" ready to go into a weapon. The only reason why Louis Slotten was able to "tickle the dragon's tail" was because it was not used in the war. But I agree that another three to five more years of fighting was possible to pacify the islands.
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And so you engage in a number of anachronistic fallacies. You can only judge it by the information of the time, not what is revealed after the fact.
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Tony Starke was right; you need to use a doomsday weapon AT LEAST ONCE to put the fear of God into everyone so that you never have to use them again.
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@Pangora2 Which battle of Kiev are you talking about? As far as pauses in conflict, that is actually quite common after a major engagement. Gettysburg in the US Civil War was followed by a long pause. Battle of the Bulge was also followed by a pause before the allies resumed the drive on Berlin.
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Did you conveniently forget that the Japanese government was forcing the civilians to manufacture parts for the war effort in their homes? That makes those homes valid targets under the Geneva and Hauge conventions. It is why using civilians as human shields for any war related activities is a Crime against Humanity.
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Hiroshima was the location of an Army Base. Its destruction did nothing to weaken their fighting morale. Further, the Japanese government forced the civilians to manufacture vehicle parts in their homes, a clear war crime that turned those homes into legal targets for bombing campaigns.
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@SteinlichStein What is happening in North Korea is exactly the same as what happened in the Soviet Union, and Maoist Red China. There is a reason why Ukraine, the Baltic States, and the former members of the Warsaw Pact vehemently reject communism.
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Two days afterwards. A lot of the anti-use folks blatantly lie about that.
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@weirdo1060 Not really. The Russians have been too busy in Ukraine to bother with the Azeri-Armenian conflict. And in that vacuum, Azerbaijan acted proving the CSTO to be completely worthless.
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@NameRiioz Considering that Azerbaijan is effectively in NATO's camp, the ultimatum to Armenia was that if they wanted protection, they had to give up on Nagorno-Karabakh. Only then would NATO consider them from membership.
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Admiral Yamamoto and a few others who served alongside Americans before the War knew better. But their concerns were ignored by Tojo and company.
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@MI6 Not really. It has since been assessed that FDR's policies only prolonged the Depression, not end it. It was WAR production that pulled the US out of the Great Depression. And that can be seen with the Leand-Lease policy that started the gearing up for wartime production.
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@MI6 Try UCLA and George Washington University. They both concur on that point. You can easily find this information if you bother to do your due diligence. But alas, you clearly do not.
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Only if you are "good enough". Failure to achieve even that means numbers are meaningless. The Persians found that out the hard way at Thermopylae.
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Indeed. The "Potsdam ultimatum" was a warning they knew the west COULD deliver on, especially since the Doolittle Raid showed we could pull off the seemingly impossible.
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@EugeneKhutoryansky That is rationalization fallacy (ie making excuses). Don't try moving the goal posts, because it won't work.
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@robo5013 Touche!
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I think you forgot to count the infamous Demon Core which killed Louis Slotten.
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@MikJames-d1g Tell that to the MiG pilots in the Korean war.
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@MikJames-d1g You completely missed the point. At the start, the MiG-15 was more advanced than anything the UN forces could field, acting with impunity in the air. Then the F-86 Sabre showed up and drastically turned the tables on the war. So, yeah, the analogy is very much appropriate.
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@MikJames-d1g "Those who refuse to remember their history are doomed to repeat it," -George Santayana "War never changes, it's exactly the same, no matter which era it happens upon," -USS Enterprise, Azur Lane the Animation. Congratulations, you just engaged in the logical fallacy of chronological snobbery. The fact that the War in Ukraine resembles WW1 trench Warfare despite advances in technology shows that your contempt for events from over 50 years ago is completely short sighted. "To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to forever remain a child," -Marcus Tullius Cicero.
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@MikJames-d1g More logical fallacies by someone with zero experience. "Peace at any cost" was the mantra of Nevil Chamberlain at Munich in 1938. JFK understood that in 1963 with the Cuban missile crisis. Appeasement NEVER works, and peace treaties only exist if there are weapons to back them up. That is why the Budapest Memorandum failed; the Russians were not punished for violating their agreements. Peace is impossible if one side refuses.
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@MikJames-d1g The Munich Conference of 1938 proves you wrong. "Peace in our time" is exactly what you are advocating. It failed then and it fails now. But I guess that is expected of a spoiled child of the First World who has never actually had to experience the horrors of conflict and why your "peace at any cost" mentality actually makes armed conflict more likely.
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@MikJames-d1g Funny, because your argument is exactly the same one used by Nevil Chamberlain at Munich in 1938. Peace at any cost only makes war inevitable. You have been spoiled living in the modern west only experiencing First World Problems. You haven't had to struggle to survive.
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Indeed. Most who did take the China route would go on to Cambodia or Thailand and THEN turn themselves in to the authorities. The South Korean government already has agreements with those two nations that they will cover the costs of having them sent to ROC rather than back to DPRK.
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And that is anachronistic fallacy. You can't judge it based on knowledge revealed after the fact, only by what was known at the time.
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Putin is a old school Soviet. So to him, an Armenian is just another Soviet citizen.
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@SP-qo3pd Not entirely true. You do realize that clothing factories, food production facilities, and fuel processing plants are all legitimate targets under the Geneva and Hauge conventions? Further, the Japanese government was forcing civilians to manufacture vehicle parts in their own homes. That is a War Crime. It also makes those home legal targets. Try actually reading about the Law of Armed Conflict before you start lecturing others about what is spite, cruel and cowardly.
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@comacollosasa6282 That is the kicker, THE ENTIRE RESIDENTIAL BLOCK AROUND NAGASAKI was used as a small parts production factory for the main plants inside the city's industrial center. It wasn't just one house, but nearly all of them. Would be easier to point out the ones that were not.
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Well, and the irony is, used of those weapons actually prevented the total annihilation of the Yamato people. An unintended side effect, but one that has since paid dividends in the decades since.
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There was an opportunity for that under Boris Yeltsin. But then Putin came to power.
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Operation Ketsu-Go. It rarely gets talked about.
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I knew it sounded vaguely familiar.
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@markspott1741 I am NOT saying that Operation: Downfall consisting of Coronet and Olympic were better options that the nukes. Are you suggesting that? The war planners at the time knew the horrific cost for both sides should that amphibious landing plan had been carried out, hence why they wisely chose to use the nukes.
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Tell that to the slacktivist members of Congress who think that border patrol is the same as the KKK.
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You misrepresent Ceasefire for surrender. The two are not the same thing. Further, they reached out to the Soviet Russians dictating terms of the ceasefire showing how insincere they were.
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@keithmilne4971 And the Japanese had zero interest in surrender. That is my point. What you claim is surrender was nothing more than a desire for a ceasefire. A gross mischaracterization of the situation.
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@MI6 You have zero understanding of the mentality of the Japanese leadership and it shows. Rather than engage in unsupported speculation, you acknowledge that your position and claims have no merit. The Japanese didn't want to surrender on ANY terms and their overtures to the Russians prove that. Stop fooling yourself into believing things that just have no data or evidence supporting them. That is called wishful thinking.
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@MI6 You seem to forget that until AFTER the bomb was dropped, the civilian ministers were still on board with continuing the war. Don't forget, a number of them eventually faced trial for Crimes against Humanity in Japan's version of Nuremberg. Civilian government officials convicted include: Kōki Hirota (Prime Minister and later foreign minister), Hiranuma Kiichirō (Prime Minister), Naoki Hoshino (Chief cabinet secretary) Okinori Kaya (Minister of Finance) Kōichi Kido (Lord Keeper Privy Seal) Shigenori Tōgō (foreign minister)
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Japan was not particularly good with anti-air defenses. Further, there was an Army Base in Hiroshima. And Nagasaki was a military supply depot as well as a munitions production site.
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