Comments by "Peter deWolf" (@StoneShards) on "The Occult #300: The Truth About Hell from an Occult Perspective" video.

@douglascramer1501 <--I assumed the "origin" is just that, a beginning state surpassed by the "destination". Your statement denoted a return to the origin, as if to restart the cycle anew with no qualification (i.e. "higher arc"). My assumption, as you stated it, is essentially correct, since "the past" is generally considered to be unchangeable, "incapable of growth or regression". I can allow for the possibility of changing the past...but that's irrelevant to the current point. That is, I had good reason to "assume that this origin...point is a place that is incapable, etc." Won't you agree? Spiritual maturation through cycles of physical experience is a stage in the process of spiritual progression. When you're done with that development, there's further work to do elsewhere...But the point about spiritual development is irrelevant to the matter of my "mistake in reasoning". What I cited as "nihilistic" was the notion that developmental cycles simply repeat, from their original beginnings. That's how the materialist's universe behaves...
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Schrodinger's Snuffleupagus <--My considered opinion: Originally, there was only the Primordial Void, perfectly fecund with every potential, seething infinitely. Then the statistically impossible happened (the goal of every cosmos architect): a repeated Void state! This repetition, being incompatible with the nature of Chaos, was instantly ejected, in a sort of herniation, the complete repeated Void state. This one state is the source pattern of Primordial Order. And it wants to return to the chaotic void that birthed it, but is incompatible, being a oneness, as it is now. The lesson of the ejection from the Void was its process: first the repetition of state is realized by reflection, which is the mechanism of memory, and the impetus to awareness; at ejection there is the experience of "otherness", which engenders "ORDER". So, an interface was "jointly" devised: the One Mind. The universe is, indeed, mental. The operative principle of the One Mind is association, by resonant interaction. The One Mind, born of its parents, CHAOS and ORDER, serves to relate them in their misguided quest to reunite. Should they ever succeed, all of manifestation would simply cease, as if obliterated in a moment. But they can't succeed...they have a CHILD, now! hehehe...There's no going back, even for the cosmos. Forward, ho!
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@douglascramer1501 <--How did I measure "what is of lower or higher organization in the Natural Order"? The complexity of an organism is hardly "subjective". Greater complexity requires a higher degree of organization--isn't that self-evident?! Our physical relationship with the "microbiota" is, indeed, symbiotic, but largely irrelevant, as long as it's not dysfunctional. An influence on lower functions, yes; an influence on higher functions, no, except indirectly through the activity of higher functions. One's relationship with one's soul is NOT symbiotic, since you and your soul are not different organisms; they are different degrees of the same thing--you.
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Occultly speaking, hell is the initial afterlife state wherein you are required to expiate your attachments gained in life, for they hold you down, chain you to a level your nature is impelled to transcend. Once those remnant desires have burned away, you are enabled to rise to your natural level in the gradient of spiritual density...like a bobber. Some people will have little if anything to do in the "purgation zone"; others, not so little, and they will suffer as their thirsts are unquenchable, since they have no body to experience such quenching. Eventually, the suffering gets old...and release comes...as the chains fall away...
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I think not...that would mean there's nowhere to go with cosmic evolution--a nihilistic viewpoint. I see the cosmic evolution of a developing supreme deity which grows as human experience accumulates. There's no going back; even cyclicity proceeds on a spiral arc.
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@douglascramer1501 <-The additional exposition was helpful..."Different domains can be in the same place..." is a very difficult concept, given that "place" is a "space", and physical manifestation is the only "place" where there is "space". Now, "domains" is a different story, being a more general, or inclusive term. A "domain" would be any set you specify. In that regard, I see physical manifestation as a time and space-bound domain, the spiritual domain as timeless and spaceless, and the in-between domain (call it the astral, if you like) as time-bound, but spaceless. The domain of matter spans all of manifestation as a density-degree, matter being most dense and spirit being least dense, in a continuum. Boundary regions naturally arise within the density gradient (as a function of "turbulence"), creating "division" of the density domain into regions that can, then, interact characteristically to create "bodies" of "things". Another curious statement you made, "As each new life is created, a spirit has to enter it", seems simplistic in not differentiating between "spirit" and "a spirit". "Spirit" is the organizing principle of matter, in one sense. It is present in all things, including egg and sperm. I think what you refer to as "a spirit" I would refer to as "soul". The life force operates quasi-independently of spirit--it is cooperative, allowing soul to supervise fetal development and, at the individually appropriate time, occupy the body. "Planes of existence" are just regions of the spirit/matter gradient, and, indeed, all these "planes" interpenetrate each other--they are in the same "space", as we usually conceive of "space". The traversal of these "planes" is a matter of tuning the perceptual mechanism (i.e. "you") to the "frequency" corresponding to the plane being traversed--you have to "be(long)" there to travel there. Interesting ideas...though difficult to talk about. I appreciate the conversation, Douglass.
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@douglascramer1501 <--Certainly, different orders of life expression interact; and human beings necessarily maintain an important relationship with their microbiomes. But, I think you think TOO MUCH of microbes, as you seem to be saying an individual microbiome is a collective unity that IS the "soul". That conception would elevate the microbe unreasonably, implying human awareness is simply the "bug mind" in operation. It would violate the hierarchical order of Nature, placing something of relatively low organization ABOVE something more complex in organization.
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