Comments by "Peter deWolf" (@StoneShards) on "A Conversation so Intense It Might as Well Be Psychedelic | John Vervaeke | EP 180" video.

As an introvert...Nature offers the experience of the quiet power of eternal persistence. It's uplifting and..."biggening"...hehehe
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The "dialogical element" is the process of the Ouroboros, the snake eating its tail, the dog chasing his tail. The mental churn that usually passes for thinking is a view on a chain of associations composed of one association triggering another, repeatedly, in FLASHES of awareness.
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"A field of affordances"? Ah, jeez...everybody develops his own private vocabulary; and academics write books about their private vocabulary, USING their private vocabulary. Defined as the quality or property of an object that defines its possible uses or makes clear how it can or should be used, "affordance" is not a meaningful word from my perspective. "The possible uses of an object" cannot be inherent in the object! For one thing, "uses" can't be possessed by the object. For another thing, judging what is "possible" is a function of intelligence, and objects don't possess intelligence.
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The burden we all shoulder is our ignorance. Sacrificing one's ignorance on the alter of knowledge is an uncomfortable prospect for most, who are unfamiliar with the limits of their ability to suffer.
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According to the idea of yin and yang comprising Tao, attention and intention comprise Awareness. Memory is an experience echo whose value is to maintain the availability of a value for comparison to a "current" value...like a register in a microprocessor. Constantly and continuously, at speeds determined by IQ, we climb the ladder of the past into the future. We learn how "cause" precipitates "effect"...from moment to moment.
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"Is the unconscious in the world striving to make itself conscious?" Yes! Via "evolution"! Self-consciously aware intelligence, the pinnacle of that evolution enables the consciousness of the planet Earth to accelerate ITS OWN development! You don't have to live in a tiny universe...Everything evolves, and intelligence is the metric of that evolution...
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When you're confused, you pray for a revelatory thought?! Literally, "pray"? I can see how this would be a religionist's perspective, though, I hadn't expected it to be Jordan Peterson's.
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"The border between chaos and order"! That would be the One Universal Mind, the interface between Chaos and Order, comprising all and everything, Jordan! The One Mind manifests the entirety of existence. Each individual operates the One Mind as best he is able, becoming more able with every effort to do so--there is no personal individual "mind"...except allegorically.
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Chaos and Order are the two sides of Cosmos; the interface between them is Mind. The One Mind is responsible for the entirety of manifest existence. What you see as your mind is the apperceptual space that contains the experience of your operation of the One Mind (i.e. OM), which is, fundamentally, associative in nature (i.e. patterning). You are part of a cycle of relationship: OM-->existence-->perception-->OM. Every experience you have imprints on the fabric of existence, a kind of buoy that remains...forever. When you remember it you activate it--"ping" it--feeding it strengthening energy, rendering it easier to remember again. Smaller impressions ping more weakly. It's how memory works: OM recognizes a pattern, because you cast the gaze of your ATTENTION upon it. That recognition is a "ping" that "returns" the "details"--the "memory" you experience. It's all viciously associative--and immediate. Ouroboros...how fast can you think/feel/ping? Or, "how high is your IQ?"...same thing...
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At 4:20, Jordan is getting on to something...but, his guest is on a slightly different wavelength, or perspective. I'd like to offer Jordan a little assistance: when you "pose the problem and wait", what emerges are responses from INTERNALIZED AUTHORITIES! Everyone you've every met, you've internalized as an authority, meaning a source of true knowledge. People you interact with often become internalized as semi-autonomous critics, giving no end of trouble to those people not familiar with self-control. Authority is the currency of truth, a repository of trust. Nature internalizes as the authority called, "God". Emotion and thought are crude handles for a sliding scale of perception and apperception. Perception starts the ball rolling by implying actions and states that directly affect the experiencer; then, emotion arises as possible/likely responses to the implied actions and states that follow direct perception. Thought arises as the experiencer attempts to articulate, especially with language, the emotion experienced. This is the base level of thought; abstracting thought yields symbolic thought that can function without an emotional accompaniment. How you operate this quadripolar dynamic determines everything about who you are and what you do.
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"Imagination is...it permeates your perception"--1:14:26...Darn, almost had an actual definition of imagination! But, that attempt was aborted in favor of a sort of description. Either these guys don't want to be pinned down, or they don't have any idea, really, what imagination IS!
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The "burdensomeness" is an illusion of sensory perception. Self-perfection is the burden we bear with the joy of our being.
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"...continuity of religio..."! C'mon, guys, structure, please! hehehe...They explicate their peculiar vocabularies and delight in correlating them. That's lovely, but, inchoate...poetic, even! I consider the subject technical! "Cognition is not in your head. It's between you and the world" is a virtually meaningless statement, linguistically. "The world" is another of the super-words they like to revolve around that is too huge to be usefully wielded, so it serves as an indicator, a buzz-word, containing the meaning each listener assigns to it, without special regard to how the speaker meant it's use. If you want to communicate you must hold certain terminology in common. You make sure of that by clearly defining your terminology! DEFINITIONS, not off-handed descriptions!
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The primary activity of awareness is identification. The primary activity of intelligence is association. Definition is useful; description is mostly excitement. I'd like these great thinkers to work more with definition, and less with description and comparison.
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"Consciousness" is too abstract a term to be very useful. What they're usually talking about, instead, is "awareness". "Imagination" is the sphere of "self-assemblage", the perpetual symbolic recapitulation of the "self". It is the mirror of "what is", or shall be; the capacity to form intention--a tool of the will. Additionally, though, the medium of imagination is the subtle "energy" that underlies the expression of substance from the universal substrate of existence. So, the efforts of imagination are made in the subtle substance that underlies matter! Imagination structures reality. "Attention" is the capacity to observe; to "notice" detail. "Intention" directs "attention", as "attention" informs "intention". "Awareness" is the Tao to "attention"'s yin and "intention"'s yang. "Intention" and "attention" are the two tools you have available to use in the building of "self"--indeed, this intention/attention dynamic is ALL you have to WORK with, that YOU CONTROL DIRECTLY AND IMMEDIATELY--your "right and left hand", so to speak.
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