Comments by "Peter deWolf" (@StoneShards) on "One Of The Deepest Conversations You Will Listen To About God | Dr. John Lennox | EP 394" video.
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Gentlemen, I think your conception of the origin of the "first lie" in the Garden of Eden is radically amiss: it is not the serpent that lied! It spoke the truth, Adam and Eve would "be as God", knowing "good and evil", which is to say, having the capacity of "judgement". Adam and Eve "lied" in their attempt to deceive God. That judgement was wrong, and the "original sin". There was nothing wrong with wanting to be like God; that desire is love. So, the "sin" of disobedience to God's command to not eat of that tree was forgivable because they didn't have the judgement to balance their desire to be like God in order to remain obedient. God would have been able to overlook the transgression if they'd only been contrite, instead of deceptive, which would have been the right judgement for them to have made. So, using our judgement to balance our desires has become the nature of the inner life, which, finding expression in the outer life, shapes our world.
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"Subjective intellect", Jordan?! Ouch! Hard to grok that phrase. The serpents you learn to handle are your own proclivities. The Church prevents you from handling the serpent of "self as God", now, doesn't it! It seems to me we are continuously "creating our own values"--there must be a secret understanding to that phrase that I'm not familiar with, for the speakers to be denigrating the process as dangerous. You MUST create God! You must create a big-picture understanding of existence--it's the very drive of mentality! Every experience feeds this conception. Humans have always created God, usually as idols, physical objects. Science provides an expansive palette of colors by which to paint the most marvelous conceptions of ultimacy. Yes, since God is absolutely everywhere--meaning, nothing else can be anywhere--we are God, but not gods, though. It is important to avoid giving God form in imagination--that would be extremely disrespectful, and the beginning of all the problems of hubris hinted at by the speakers.
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