Comments by "SpaniardsR Moors" (@spaniardsrmoors6817) on "What did Italy want in the World Wars? | Mussolini, Italian Empire, Italy WW2" video.
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@UnholyWrath3277 Neither does Italy: Greatest history, achievements of any country in history, made western civilization, Roman Empire, saved Europe and western civilization again with the Renaissance, most powerful, richest city states in medieval times, top 10 military/economy today. You American? America, discovered by Columbus, named after Amerigo Vespucci, John Cabot (Giovanni Caboto) brought English exploration, settlement of America. Without Italy America wouldn't exist..lol at that DUDE.
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@UnholyWrath3277 Have some meatballs:
"No other country in Europe can claim the continuity of civilization achieved in Italy"... Harry Hearder - Italy a Short History.
WIKI: Italy is considered the birthplace of Western civilization and a cultural superpower. Italy has been the starting point of phenomena of international impact such as the Magna Graecia, the Roman Empire, the Roman Catholic Church, the Renaissance, the Risorgimento and the European integration. During its history, the nation gave birth to an enormous number of notable people. Both the internal and external faces of Western culture were born on the Italian peninsula, whether one looks at the history of the Christian faith, civil institutions (such as the Senate), philosophy, law, art, science, or social customs and culture.😅😜
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@UnholyWrath3277 The greatest civilization is the WEST, and who made, influenced it...Italy...China was great, but mostly influenced the East and had many centuries of decay, Italy has the best history continuity...Those city states were controlled by Italians, check the names of the famous explorers, traders who made them great, ITALIAN, not French/Austrian. German tribes were DEFEATED initially, only later at the end of the Empire were they successful, and when did that "crush" ever happen in modern times?
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@UnholyWrath3277 Italy has an advanced economy. The country is the ninth-largest by nominal GDP (third in the European Union), the eighth-largest by national wealth and the third-largest by central bank gold reserve. It ranks highly in life expectancy, quality of life,[37] healthcare,[38] and education. The country is a great power, and it has a significant role in regional[39][40] and global[41][42] economic, military, cultural, and diplomatic affairs. Italy is a founding and leading member of the European Union and a member of numerous international institutions, including the United Nations, NATO, the OECD, the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, the World Trade Organization, the Group of Seven, the G20, the Union for the Mediterranean, the Latin Union, the Council of Europe, Uniting for Consensus, the Schengen Area, and many more. The source of many inventions and discoveries, the country has long been a global centre of art, music, literature, philosophy, science and technology, and fashion and has greatly influenced and contributed to diverse fields including cinema, cuisine, sports, jurisprudence, banking, and business.[43] As a reflection of its cultural wealth, Italy has the world's largest number of World Heritage Sites (58), and is the fifth-most visited country.😆😄🤣
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@UnholyWrath3277 Here's more pasta to enjoy:
'Britain’s Roman Legacy' from Britain Magazine
They came, they conquered and their lasting effect on Britain is still visible to this day. From ancient forts, roads and walls, to villas, palaces and spas, discover Britain’s Roman legacy. By Penelope Rance
Technology, architecture, language, government, town planning – even a sense of national identity. The depth of the Roman influence on the British Isles was such that it survives to this day, seemingly unmatched by that of any of the invading forces that followed them. But then, the majority of those invaders, and the subsequent ruling elites, wanted nothing better than to be Roman themselves.
These heirs to the Roman ideal – Saxons, Danes, Normans, Plantagenets, Tudors, Georgians and Victorians – all tried to establish Britain as part of a wider empire, drawing on the example set by those first imperial overlords.
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@dillonblair6491 From Hitler’s own words:
“Others among the German leadership were less critical, most notably Adolf Hitler. In his address to the Reichstag following the conclusion of the Balkan Campaign, Hitler was complimentary to the Greeks for their "extremely brave resistance", but stated that given the Greek logistical situation, German involvement was not decisive in the Greco-Italian conflict: "The Duce... was convinced that a quick decision would be arrived at one way or another in the forthcoming season. I was of the same opinion." He stated that he had no quarrel with Greece (which he had acknowledged as part of the Italian sphere anyway) and that his intervention was aimed solely at the British as he suspected that they planned to set up a threat to his rear in the vein of the Salonika Front
of the First World War: "the German forces, therefore, represented no assistance to Italy against Greece, but a preventive measure against the British." He further noted that by the beginning of April the Albanian campaign against the Italians "had so weakened [Greece] that its collapse had already become inevitable", and credited the Italians with having "engaged the greater part of the Greek Army."
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In his private correspondence in April 1942, Hitler said: "It is equally impossible to imagine what might have happened if the Italian front had not been stabilized in Albania, thanks to Mussolini; the whole of the Balkans would have been set alight at a moment when our advance towards the southeast was still in its early stages."
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@dillonblair6491 Ethiopian "war" '87-89 was an undeclared war that ended in friendship that later turned into the first war...DUDE, Italy did not lose.
I keep saying it because obviously a newly formed country is never as powerful as centuries old countries considered world powers. Russia was not a newly formed country by the time 1943 rolled around and was/is the largest country in land mass, 60 TIMES the size of Italy, and twice the population.
And it was the Germans who backstabbed Italy breaking the Pact of Steel just 4 months after signing supposedly giving Italy 3 more years to prepare since their military was severely depleted and outdated. The Germans had been building up their military for 2 decades and fought NO wars after WW I. Italy had fought for 25 years in N. Africa, plus winning the Spanish civil war and supplying them with a large amount of munitions and weapons. Italy had conquered Albania, Eritrea, Libya, Ethiopia, Somalia BEFORE WW II even started. They had thrown out or stalemated the British in N. Africa. The British later did the same to Italy AFTER mass American aid and Italy was in a deep depleted state at the time also fighting in Greece.
I stated Italy had a larger Empire than Germany, and Germany did better LATER because they were starting WW II in full power, while Italy was completely exhausted and in the conditions stated above.
Actually Italy WON every war whether in N. or East Africa, Albania, Greece, Spain, DUDE. Again tell me what ANY OTHER European country besides Germany, Russia, WON...it was ZERO
And after surrendering in '43, the Fascist continued fighting with Germany until the END as did the anti-Fascist with the Allies, DUDE.
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@dillonblair6491 “This revisionist history convincingly argues that the Regia Marina Italiana (the Royal Italian Navy) has been neglected and maligned in assessments of its contributions to the Axis effort in World War II. After all, Italy was the major Axis player in the Mediterranean, and it was the Italian navy and air force, with only sporadic help from their German ally, that stymied the British navy and air force for most of the thirty-nine months that Italy was a belligerent. It was the Royal Italian Navy that provided the many convoys that kept the Axis war effort in Africa alive by repeatedly braving attack by aircraft, submarine, and surface vessels. If doomed by its own technical weaknesses and Ultra (the top-secret British decoding device), the Italian navy still fought a tenacious and gallant war; and if it did not win that war, it avoided defeat for thirty-nine, long, frustrating months.”
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@dillonblair6491 Germans running to surrender while Italians continued fighting
"Not only should Tunisia have exploded the myth of Hitler's military acumen, it should have discredited the idea that Germans fought better than the Italians, since Messe's 1st Italian Army held out longer than Arnim's 5th German Army and the DAK, even both groups had about six divisions and faced roughly equal Anglo-American forces. Indeed, Hermann Goring division was the first to be scattered on 7 May, DAK the next to break and surrender on 9 May, with the Italian Spezia division closing the gap created by the German collapse and watching still combat-efficient German units march off into captivity on 11 May. Whether it is significant that the German 90th Light division was the first to collapse in Messe's 'Italian' Army, there is no doubt that the Italians fought well and held out longest in Tunisia." (The Second World War: The German War 1939-1942, Jeremy Black, Page 265, Ashgate, 2007)”
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@UnholyWrath3277 From Hitler’s own words:
“Others among the German leadership were less critical, most notably Adolf Hitler. In his address to the Reichstag following the conclusion of the Balkan Campaign, Hitler was complimentary to the Greeks for their "extremely brave resistance", but stated that given the Greek logistical situation, German involvement was not decisive in the Greco-Italian conflict: "The Duce... was convinced that a quick decision would be arrived at one way or another in the forthcoming season. I was of the same opinion." He stated that he had no quarrel with Greece (which he had acknowledged as part of the Italian sphere anyway) and that his intervention was aimed solely at the British as he suspected that they planned to set up a threat to his rear in the vein of the Salonika Front
of the First World War: "the German forces, therefore, represented no assistance to Italy against Greece, but a preventive measure against the British." He further noted that by the beginning of April the Albanian campaign against the Italians "had so weakened [Greece] that its collapse had already become inevitable", and credited the Italians with having "engaged the greater part of the Greek Army."
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In his private correspondence in April 1942, Hitler said: "It is equally impossible to imagine what might have happened if the Italian front had not been stabilized in Albania, thanks to Mussolini; the whole of the Balkans would have been set alight at a moment when our advance towards the southeast was still in its early stages."
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@UnholyWrath3277 The nonsense of the Italian Navy being completely inept:
“This revisionist history convincingly argues that the Regia Marina Italiana (the Royal Italian Navy) has been neglected and maligned in assessments of its contributions to the Axis effort in World War II. After all, Italy was the major Axis player in the Mediterranean, and it was the Italian navy and air force, with only sporadic help from their German ally, that stymied the British navy and air force for most of the thirty-nine months that Italy was a belligerent. It was the Royal Italian Navy that provided the many convoys that kept the Axis war effort in Africa alive by repeatedly braving attack by aircraft, submarine, and surface vessels. If doomed by its own technical weaknesses and Ultra (the top-secret British decoding device), the Italian navy still fought a tenacious and gallant war; and if it did not win that war, it avoided defeat for thirty-nine, long, frustrating months.”
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@UnholyWrath3277 "Not only should Tunisia have exploded the myth of Hitler's military acumen, it should have discredited the idea that Germans fought better than the Italians, since Messe's 1st Italian Army held out longer than Arnim's 5th German Army and the DAK, even both groups had about six divisions and faced roughly equal Anglo-American forces. Indeed, Hermann Goring division was the first to be scattered on 7 May, DAK the next to break and surrender on 9 May, with the Italian Spezia division closing the gap created by the German collapse and watching still combat-efficient German units march off into captivity on 11 May. Whether it is significant that the German 90th Light division was the first to collapse in Messe's 'Italian' Army, there is no doubt that the Italians fought well and held out longest in Tunisia." (The Second World War: The German War 1939-1942, Jeremy Black, Page 265, Ashgate, 2007)”
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@dillonblair6491 I read the Christmas offensive in Wiki and it stated what I said, their "victories" and taking of mass quantities of Italian weapons were exaggerated nonsense that they could never confirm. It was a very limited initial push back that the Italians then regrouped and went on to victory. This is the same nonsense as in Greece, an initial push back was a "victory" The END RESULT is what counts. And in the first Ethiopian war, Italy united just 30 years, they also lost just ONE battle outnumbered 10-1 but it was the deciding battle. PLUS, again, Ethiopia had Russian help with weapons, and other aid.
Sure you know what Germans use of chemicals means, that the Germans were unable to achieve victories in battle w/o the use of them but you single out Italy.
Algerians were virtually defenseless and at the time France was a world power in army and navy, united 100's of years, in 1936 Italy had been a united country only 70 years and had been fighting since 1915 in N. Africa. The British had repeaters because it was still the 1800's and Britain was also a world power in army/navy united for centuries. Two of the predominant if not largest powers of the time vs African tribes with no modern weapons. TRY AGAIN DUDE.🤣😝☺
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@UnholyWrath3277 Why would Columbus go to the Americas to find Chinese goods??? That's hilarious! And the Romans never got as far as China, you're thinking of the city states, Marco Polo, etc. China was not even connected or affected by the plague, it was Europe, North Africa and WEST Asia. China only came to prominence the past 3 decades when they took western ideas, Capitalism, , it's been irrelevant, poor, for centuries before and was conquered by tiny Japan just 80 years ago. And you're comparing a country that has nearly TWICE the population of ALL Europe, that's Europe, America, plus nearly half a billion more! Their development has been impressive, but it came from the West and the vast majority of Chinese are still poor to middle class, maybe 5% are rich.
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@dillonblair6491 In the Wiki article of the "Christmas Offensive" it isn't called the "Christmas Victory," is it, BUD...all the claims made by Ethiopia of Italian casualties and captures were NEVER verified, BUD. It briefly stopped Italy's offensive, they regrouped and went on to VICTORY, BUD..Ethiopia never won ****, BUD.
France was a world power along with Britain in the early 1800's BUD and even with powerful army, navy, modern weapons took months, years, DECADES to control African countries who had only spears, arrows, no allies, BUD.
Search List of Wars involving Italy (Wiki) and Italy Military History by Europia History (You Tube) BUD, then tell me Italy won only 1 war.
That's not counting medieval times when Italian states were the most powerful, richest in Europe ,most of the world, Roman Empire, richest, most powerful, influential in HISTORY...BUD.
Italy's WW II Empire was LARGER than Germany's BUD.🤣😂😝🤪😜
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@dillonblair6491 DUDE, the Gothic Wars were between mostly non Italian tribes Why T "F" you even bringing that up? LAUGHABLE.
You know me? Have my DNA tests? BWHAHAHA...
I stated besides Russia, Germany DUDE.
As I stated without America, Commonwealths, India, French, Britain would have LOST. Search YT for Dunkirk 1940 - How the French Army saved GB
"Over 87,000 Indian troops, and 3 million civilians died in World War II.[2][3] Field Marshal Sir Claude Auchinleck, former Commander-in-Chief, India, stated that Britain "couldn't have come through both wars [World War I and II] if they hadn't had the Indian Army."[4][5]"
France, Poland surrendered in less than 6 weeks. Greece-LOST to Italy, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania-DID NOTHING, Finland, switched sides 3X and lost territory to Russia.🤣😂😅😆😝😝🤪😜
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@dillonblair6491 "because it depopulated Italy..."
PROVE that statement!
Italy won and was given Menton in France, BUD, the rest went to Germany, never stated otherwise...Italy WON in Greece, not Germany...Hitlers speech in another comment...2/3 of Greece was Italian occupied...Yeah, Churchill was desperate and the British knew they were about to lose, Lend-Lease saved them and it's the reason Britain won Operation Compass, plus all the other aid and countries that aided. Without it, Britain would have LOST, plain&simple. The point also, Britain was not alone fighting, although that's what the Brits always want you to believe. Your analogy about Russia is RIDICULOUS.
Whatever DUDE, Poland lost. Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria did NOTHING, Bulgaria received a small part of Greece w/o even firing a shot. Romania's contribution was oil, Hungarians laid down their arms in Russia and SWITCHED SIDES w/o notifying Hitler.
STILL WAITING!!
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@dillonblair6491 You linked NOTHING, not even sausages🤡
Already told you 🤡Britain, France were world powers at the time not in decline.
America won independence on it's own, try again 🤡They were aided by France, Spain, the Dutch and even Italians, Germans and more🤡The Soviet Union was formed by a coalition of many states that were powers at the time, Germans formed a unified coalition BUT Italy were many states that had been fighting civil wars for many years..
Depleted fighting and conquering over 25 years winning a foreigners civil war for them 🤡
Yep, Lend-Lease Act started 9/'40 only reason they won Operation Compass. Run out of Ethiopia when, after massive Allied help to Britain🤡until then in control for 5 YEARS🤡
Annexed after an Allied coalition was needed not until then🤡
Yes and Britain was on the brink of defeat, surrendering in Singapore, smashed at the Battle of Britain, losing in N. Africa, only survived because of Hitlers stupidity by not finishing the job, British generals admitted they would have lost the war if the battle continued even a few weeks more. Churchill then went crying to America, Britain was bankrupt and America, Commonwealths, India saved them. French saved their army at Dunkirk, there's a video on it. 😝😝
Brits ran in Greece and Greeks complained they weren't getting the supplies requested, promised. Greeks were ONE month from defeat when Germans arrived and Hitler said it was an ITALIAN victory...keep repeating/BS, parrot. And it was the Italians who made Rommel 🤡
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@dillonblair6491 Who won the Ethiopian war and occupied it for 5 years only losing to Allied forces?? EVERY power lost battles, Italy lost 1 battle in EACH war, THAT'S IT.
You think depopulated means every Italian was removed from the peninsula??? BAHAHAHA What utter/BS. aND THESE DEFEATS WERE AT THE VERY TAIL END OF A 1000 year empire, THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL...SO W T F is your point? Every Empire has ultimately failed, defeated.
Italy was at war over 25 years BUD before the start of WW II, THEY TOOK CONTROL OF lIBYA IN 1915 then went on to conquer the rest.
Russia was a conglomerate of many ethnics, states just stop the semantic/BS
Britain was winning only in their sphere of conquered colonies, up until '40 they had fled Libya or did not contest in the other Italian conquests. So the Lend Lease act only affected Britain against Germany, how did that work, every piece of equipment sent said use vs Germany only? 🤣That aid directly affected Operation Compass which started just 4 months after aid. Not struggling vs Italy?, see my other comments DUDE.
Hitlers aid in N. Africa was as much a hindrance as aid because of German blunders, everything Italy had won up to that point was done by Italy ALONE..ZERO German help. It was Germans BETRAYAL that caused Italy to be hoodwinked into WW II and that's when Italian failures started.
Yeah BUD, the Commonwealths and India were under British control and it means the British had help from all those countries while Italy fought ALONE. You continue skirting that inconvenient fact along with the French saving their behind.
Show me that surrender treaty that Greece had over Italy 🤡while Italy controlled 2/3 of Greece🤡.
NOW, tell me your ethnicity which I know u don't have the knuts to do and we'll see what they've achieved in history in comparison. You can only WISH they have the same war record as Italy as surely they can NEVER compete in history achievements.
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@dillonblair6491 You still too stupid to realize there were NO 3 wars, but 2? Says it in wiki🤡 It states the first dispute ended in friendship (that's the one you falsely claim as a war) which later turned into a dispute again, then later into the first war🤡. So Italy lost an entire 2 battles, not 1 in the 2 wars, W T "F" is your point🤡 when England, France other colonial powers did the same even losing to tiny unarmed Haiti and fighting tribes of arrows and spears while Italy fought modern armed Ethiopians🤡
Italy won control of Libya in 1915 and continued fighting/conquering African countries, until 1940🤡, that 25 years but I forgot you can't count. Plus Albania, winning the Spanish civil war, territory in France before America started supplying Britain in '40 to save their behinds. And just prior Italy defeated the Ottomon Empire, another WIN🤡
Give me a link that says Italy was completely "depopulated" of all Italians, Romans, Italic tribe.🤡And again parrot boy, that was at the end of the 1000 year Roman Empire and included multiple foreign tribes not Rome/Italy 1 on 1 vs another power so why you keep bringing that up except for that's the only war you can ante up that shows some kind of loss for Rome and you think justifies your BS claim Romans disappeared off the face of the earth during that time. Your desperation reeks.
I said Russia/Soviet Union was made up of several Russian states, you spin yarn better than a spider🤡
And those colonial Africans did little but quickly surrender as in Operation Compass when the heat was on compared to European aid are you now trying to equate the 2??? Another desperation move.
Italy was initially pushed back into Albania they didn't lose Albania until the Allies helped and AFTER Italy had conquered Greece. Learn the difference and stop making up more crap to fit your BS narrative. AGAIN, Hitler say's otherwise🤡and show me the surrender treaty Italy signed🤡while they occupied 2/3 of Greece
The videos I provided shows different 🤡, Italy beat multiple modern powers unlike the Brits, Spaniards, French, Dutch whose "Empires" didn't defeat one modern country with weapons or army.
I knew you didn't have the knuts to reveal your ethnicity since they can't hold a candle to Italy's military or economic history. Lazy as in top 10 economy/military even today, greatest country in world history? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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