Comments by "The Immortal" (@theimmortal4718) on "Forgotten Weapons"
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@davitdavid7165
You really are out of your league, here. Nobody who's shot these guns would choose the wire stock on the sten, grease gun, or MP40 over the fixed stock of a Tommy. They're pretty unusable and miserable.
A Tommy, by 1942 was CHEAPER to produce than an M1 Garand.
They're also VERY controllable.
You watch too many movies.
All automatic weapons are going to be used in controlled bursts. Usually 3 to 5 rounds.
.45 also punches through trees, houses, and cars much better than 9mm.
Yes, I'd much rather be using the heavier Thompson in combat. Heavy ,well built magazines, solid wood stock with great cheek hold, a real hand guard rather than a heat shield or magazine, and the ability to punch through thicker brick and plaster walls/wood.
It was also much easier to hit at over 100, as it is select fire and could also fire in semi auto which was rare in WW2 for SMGs.
They were coveted for a reason, and they are legendary for a reason.
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@davitdavid7165
Why are you using a reductio ad absurdum fallacy?
Nobody is talking about 1000 yard shots.
And nobody is talking about weighing a soldier down with ridiculous amounts of weight.
An M1A1 is 10.5 pounds unloaded.
An M1 rifle is 9.5 pounds, unloaded, but is harder to carry because it's longer and has more of its weight forward.
A basic load of 5 mags for the Tommy, once they went to 30 rnd mags (150 RDS), weighs
10 pounds.
Base load for the M1 rifle was 88 rounds, weighs about 7 pounds.
That means a rifleman was carrying 17.5 pounds of ammo and weapon as a base load, while the squad leader with the Tommy was carrying 20.5 pounds.
That's 3 pounds extra.
How did guys survive????
And guys carried way more than that in ammo in actual combat.
Most riflemen were carrying 300 rounds, as well as belts for the MG, or mags for the BAR, rifle grenades, hand grenades, mortars, or rockets for the bazooka.
Guys carrying the Tommy weren't just loading up on tons of ammo, though. They were usually squad leaders or platoon leaders, not pack mules.
Most guys carrying the Tommy would be the least encumbered in the company, moving light. They might carry a pistol and a few grenades, but that's it.
Why would I worry about the recoil? An SMG is the LEAST recoiling weapon in an infantry company. A Garand or BAR has more recoil than a Tommy. You should should shoot one, sometime. They're pussy cats.
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