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Comments by "l" (@l-uk3xm) on "Holocaust Survivor Absolutely DEMOLISHES Israel" video.

@Mirul-ef3jb I don't know what you mean by Israelites, like ancient Israelites? Current residents of the State are called Israelis, not Israelites, and there are many religious ones among them. There whole cities where they're in the majority, including Jerusalem. I hope you go visit someday and see for yourself. 2. Zionists are the ppl who went to then Palestine in the late 19th century to build the land for the future state of Israel. Land was bought from absentee land owners and paid for. The money was raised by the world communities' donations, much of those donated by the Rothschild family. Once the Jewish enterprise started, many Arabs came too attracted by the jobs, medical and other services the Jews provided. Those were what we call early Zionists. Later, when the State of Israel came into being, that connotation changed to simple ppl who work for the strength and welfare of Israel. No, it's not an excuse for the State, sorry but the State doesn't need an excuse. Thank you.
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@Mirul-ef3jb There were no countless wars, there were 2 only. One in 1948 when Israel came into being and the Israeli leaders at that time called on all the Arabs living in the land to stay. Those who listened stayed and are now citizens of Israel, about 20% of its populace. Those who decided to leave, left.Nobody was kicked out, as I said they were encouraged to stay. Their Arab neighbors, which called on them to leave, started the war in 1948, and lost it several months later. Even then, Israel was prepared to take back the Arabs who returned. Intifada is not a displacement, it's an Arab terror wave against Israel that took place in the 1990s following the Oslo accords. The displacement in Arabic is nakhba, I am not sure what you mean by Palestinians moving into Israel and the Holy Land. Israel is in the Holy Land. Thank you
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@Mirul-ef3jb Extreme religious Judaism suggests that no state can be created until the Messiah comes.. That' is true. There are adherents to this mantra who actually live in Israel today, enjoying all the benefits yet not believing. Kinda interesting. Most religious Jews do recognize the State, serve in the army, etc. The State was not created by religious Jews, nor was it meant to be. It was created by secular Jews and their ideology was not religion-based. It was created for all Jewish ppl so they could return to their ancestral land especially after the holocaust they endured in Europe. Judaism and Zionism are not contradictory, they're just different in their pursuits. Today's Zionists, vs the early Zionists who worked to create the State, are those who work for the welfare and well-being of the State. That has nothing to do w/imperial expansion or colonization or ethnic cleansing. There are lots of Arabs and others living in Israel today. That said, if we're threatened as we were on Oct 7, yes, we rise to our defense, just like any other nation would. Thank you
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@Mirul-ef3jb Plz explain,, contradiction is not an definition, I'd really like to know what you mean by Zionism as a term. Thank you
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@Mirul-ef3jb I said absentee land owners, not those who lived there, thank you.
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@Inquisetor90 Right, "innocent" civilians are their parents, spouses,, siblings, etc who support and admire them, not sure about their real innocence. That Arab man who called his family from Israel on Oct 7 bragging that he just killed 10 ppl and his father praised him. Plus, Hamas imbeds itself w/civilians, which the ppl don't seem to mind. So what is the IDF to do? The Israeli Arabs, about 20% of our population today are generally fine, some acted really heroically on Oct 7, saved many lives. Yet, there were also anti-Israel protests in Haifa and Jerusalem among their communities, so it's a complex issue. It's my opinion, that they don't really want a state of their own, hence these political games coupled w/terror. They want to continue mooching off Israel and getting the UN handouts crying all the while about being victimized. Lots of money to be made w/this cry.
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@thedarkdivinity7525 Totally agree. Did you see Sinwar's villa in Gaza? Our guys got in there. It's empty and pretty trashed right now but boy, is it huge and well appointed. And he's not the richest among them. Those in Doha are worth billions.
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@Mirul-ef3jb Which baseless claim, plz? Thank you
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He's not right.
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And I don't. He 's lost it.
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Unfortunately, the barbarity was started by Hamas. and Israel had to respond. I am sorry but there is no way we can live w/what happened on Oct 7. We value life just like you do, but we can't afford to lose our ppl either. Thank you
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@NerdicusGoblinski As I mentioned before, Germany's goal was to conquer Europe and Africa, I don't believe Israel has this goal. If by a goose step you mean military parades, Israel hasn't had one since 1973, but we do maintain a strong well equipped army b/c that's the neighborhood we live in, kind of the Chicago southside, you've got to be vigilant. No, Israel has never committed any genocidal actions, even the Hague court, prejudiced however it was, found none. Thank you
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@NerdicusGoblinski Oh and w/regards to the court's verdict, didn't it order Hamas to give up the hostages? Did they do it?
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@5amsunspor We would very much love to live in peace w/you guys. Offered it many times--rejected.
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@luvitluvitbaby I don't believe they have such plans, I don't believe such plans are realistic even if they had them, but think what you may. Thank you
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@alittlebitofeverything6547 I shall give you this land in eternal possession and I shall be thy God.
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@Emerald-1 Who were the oppressed and who are the oppressors in this case? In general, I believe it's not impossible. The American colonists were under Great Britain for a long time. Now the US seems to be on top of it. Also, England used to have many other colonies, while now the descendants of those oppressed by them govern them.
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Unfortunately, he's very wrong. Either delusional or being well paid.
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@sahq7356 No problem, Sir/Ma'am. Have a nice day.
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@jonathandanon9999 He had no way of seeing the Oct 7. Apparently, the guy is long dead. So he hatched this nonsense a long time ago. Probably senile already then or well paid.
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@khaledj.9985 When did your "apartheid" start? 70 years ago? How did it start? I mean historically. What happened? Israel is only 75 years old as a country, so how could it be there has been apartheid for 70 years. You seem to repeat somebody's words w/o thinking. And that old man in the vid doesn't have the whole historical context. The fact he lived through the holocaust doesn't make him in any way more knowledgeable than any one of us here. His opinion is just as good as everybody else. Beside, the guy clearly was paid to say it.
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@Mirul-ef3jb Who were the Jewish refugees? When?
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@Mirul-ef3jb Admit what?
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@oliveoil5789 I am sorry, what movement are you referring to? Thank you
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@luvitluvitbaby Israel doesn't oppress anybody, but think what you may. Thank you
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@visicircle Does it also bite its own kind?
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This man is paid to say that to please you
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You're not talking about the same ppl
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He shows his tattoo from a death camp, right? Hamas similarly branded our kids in captivity.
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@cookiez_ad Israeli media reported it a while ago per the 13-year old boy who was released during the ceasefire. They used hot iron on his lower leg. Other kids reported the same.. The goal was to be able to identify them if they ran away.
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@spiraljumper74 No proof of what?
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Palestine is already free, what freedom do you want for it?
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Sorry your country is already free, not sure what kind of freedom you're calling for.
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@miguelroger6647 I am sorry for assuming you're American. You posted in English and it's a US based site. Now I know you're from Spain, thank you. Also sorry for my extreme stupidity and the absence of cogent arguments on your part that prompted you to resort to ad hominem attacks. Israel was established in 1948 and was recognized as an independent Jewish State by the UN and the rest of the world, excluding the Arabs. The land was partitioned by the UN decision made in 1947. The Arabs had an ample opportunity to create their own state which they forwent. They forwent at least 4 other offers made to them. They chose their destiny. Israel stole no land from anybody. Initially land was purchased from absentee land owners who lived in other countries and sold their deeds. When Israel came into being in 1948, the Arabs were encouraged to stay and whoever decided to stay are now rightful citizens. Whoever decided to leave at that time made their choice. The occupation and land theft are myths that are perpetuated by the hostile media but you're free to believe what you want to . I would not label you uneducated or anything else for your beliefs. Sorry, I don't throw out ad hominem. The situation today has been prompted by the Hamas invasion of Israel on Oct 7 that killed 1,200 of our ppl, injured countless others, tortured, raped and mutilated, and took 240 hostages of whom they're still holding 133 of whom half is believed killed by now. Gaza is an independent state over which Israel has no jurisdiction and can't even go there. They decided to attack, well, they made their choice also. We rose for our defense just like any other county would do against an aggressor. Thank you
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Sorry to hear that. Nobody is forced to live here.
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@nolitetebastardescarborund9761 Your colleague has never been to Israel, sorry
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@nolitetebastardescarborund9761 I don't know where he/she visited and saw hatred. Nobody hates the Arabs in Israel and there is no militarism. Arabs comprise 20% of our population and have every right and privilege. Israeli Arabs acted heroically on Oct 7 saving ppl's lives while risking their own. I am sorry your colleague didn't see the reality.
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@kristinlazaridis8224 Am Israel Chai! Long live the nation of Israel, the people of Israel and its glorious defense forces! The world of the sane is with us.
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@kristinlazaridis8224 Sorry you're disgusted but can't help. Thank you
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@kristinlazaridis8224 Israel has done nothing wrong, sorry if you don't agree, but can't help either. Take care.
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Sorry she felt this way. We still have barbed wired emplacements here b/c we have terrorism, not b/c it's a concentration camp. Yet, life in Israel today is no worse than in the USA and definitely better than some other places in the world. Can't speak for Australia, never been there, Thank you
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@kristinlazaridis8224 The truth is in the middle? When Japan attacked at Pearl Harbor and 2,000 of our men were gone in 90 mins, where was that middle? What did the US do to it? When Germany invaded Poland in 1939 and virtually wiped it out, where was that middle? What did Poland do to it? When Germany invaded Russia in 1941, where was that middle? What did Russia do to it? When we had 9/11, and 3,000 of our ppl were gone in one day, where was that middle? What did we do to the Arabs? Cliches don't help, sorry. Thank you.
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@kristinlazaridis8224 Thank you for your kind advice. Apparently, you know more about my edu than I do about my own. In fact, I have tertiary edu, not just secondary, but it's also apparent that I didn't go to the same schools as you, hence I have no further interest in debating w/you. Hope you have a nice day.
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@kristinlazaridis8224 Sir/Ma'am, you're mistaking me for somebody else. I've never hinted I was a kid, so clearly, you're replying to the wrong person. I have no interest in talking to you any further, so plz desist. Many thanks.
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Probably if I understood his broken English
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Yes, I will dismiss his words b/c they're not true, he has not only single piece of evidence, his pics are fake, and he's being paid to say that. It's part of the phycological war that is being waged on Israel. And therefore, Israelis are not impressed.
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@khaledj.9985 Totally agree, what goes around comes around. You saw it coming, guys. Killing 1,200 of ours and taking 240 others hostage w/the kind of brutality that everybody thought was relegated to the Middle Ages, nay, the Stone Age, what did you expect? And given that we provided every last thing for you, money, jobs, utilities, medical, etc. What did you expect? That we'd extend tender loving mercies to you? Forgive and forget? Our military is one of the strongest, best trained and best equipped in the world. There will be no forgive and forget, sorry. Until complete and final victory.
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@khaledj.9985 Israel is only 75 years old as a state. How did it manage to generate that many years of "apartheid and oppression"? Can you provide a bit more explanation of how exactly those 2 happened? I mean in practical terms? Ideally w/dates and specific events. Thank you
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@khaledj.9985 I didn't assume anything about you personally. The pronoun "you" that I used was just an indefinite pronoun, like "one", for example. I am sorry if it was perceived differently. That said, if you insist that Israel oppressed the Arabs for decades, I'd like to see some evidence. If you could possibly provide historic facts, dates, specific events, etc to prove it b/c my knowledge is quite the opposite. Israel provides every last thing for them, which is one of the main reasons they don't want their own state which was offered to them multiple times. Thank you.
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@hannayoruk7125 I am glad that you know Hitler's mindset. You must be a medium.
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@2-1inffwa97 Everyone is a "hero" who speaks against Israel from the safety of their basement.
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@michaelohara49 Israel has never been a victim. It has always come out victorious.
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@michaelohara49 Whoever lived through the holocaust, I can only say sorry for them but their opinions are no better than anybody else's. It's just that, opinions. You 'are not seeing anything that Israel is doing,you're not in Israel, not in Gaza, you're relying on the vicious anti Israel propaganda that has no credibility and is based on fake news, paid actors impersonating ppl, including kids, but if you prefer to take it in, it's your choice just as it's your choice to throw the word apartheid all over the place. If you were to set foot in Israel even once, you'd see that we're living together w/all other religions/ethnicities and they're all rightful citizens. Israel was set up as a Jewish state yet we welcome others just as much and the Arabs constitute 20% of our populace and are very well off, to say that least. No, there is no genocide now. The #'s that Hamas provides are fake as well and the apparent reason for that is to elicit sympathy from the ignorant. A genocidal attempt was made on Oct 7 when 1,200 of our innocents were killed w/medieval barbarity, kids/babies burned alive, females violated, and 240 others kidnapped of whom presumably 50 killed by now. I am sorry it bothers you that Israel rose to its defense, that the nation came together united as always when facing a common vicious enemy, and given that we're a superior nation, that's what they're getting for their aggression. They saw it coming. Thank you
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@michaelrosenzweig3234 or well-paid to spread this drivel.
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@Theworld-ci7zg How can you expect peace w/o retaliation? Not sure I understand. Thank you
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@grahampaice6914 If you can tell me specifically how, where, when, this aggression/occupation took place, I'd appreciate it. I'd like to see specific events, dates, participants, etc. Israel was founded in May 1948 within the allocated boundaries of the UN partition vote in Nov 1947 demarcating its territory, so 70 years just doesn't compute mathematically. War of Independence ended in 1949; 6-day war 1967 (added lands of Yehuda/Shomron, Gaza, Golan Heights), Yom Kippur war 1973 (no territorial changes), 1980s--Golan annexed to Israel, Sinai ceded to Egypt, 1990s--Hussein cedes Yehuda/Shomron to Israel), withdrawal from Gaza 2005. 70 years??
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@T1tusCr0w Who are those oppressors/murderers? Antisemitism is rampant now all around the globe, on college campuses, on the street, even in gov offices. A Jewish MP in England had to desist from running for their seat again b/c their office was vandalized, a Canadian gov leader was given police protection, A congregation admin was killed in the US. Jewish ppl are killed and harassed in seemingly enlightened countries in the West and America. Massive violent rallies against the Jews are all over the world. In the US colleges are sued for the harassment of Jews on campuses. Harvard and MIT prez's were forced to resign b/c they didn't reign in but in fact condoned calls for the genocide. The Jewish ppl are facing a Nazi Germany redux these days.
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@jerusalemdentist The man is totally out of it, ridiculous. Lots of ppl went through the same in Europe, horrible experience, no doubt, but not all became that hostile to Israel. Israel took all of those who wanted to come after the war, even though the economy was nowhere near good at the time. The Arabs, on the other hand, are refusing entry to their own until today.
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@jerusalemdentist I didn't even listen to all of it, it's nauseating. The man is totally disgusting, probably well-paid too to say that.
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@michaelohara49 I don't believe you know what you're talking about, sorry. Gaza has been its own independent state since 2005, which is called Gaza, not Palestine, they voted Hama$ in office through a democratic process, they have nobody but themselves to blame. Plus, may I suggest that there are no Palestinians and no Palestine since 1948. Apparently, you're not well informed, and thus it's pointless to argue with you. Hope you have a nice day.
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@michaelohara49 Israel had no control over anything in Gaza, land , air or ports. Gaza had an international airport called Yasser Arafat Airport, its own seaport and territorial waters like every other country does, and its land was under the jurisdiction of Ha--ma$, their democratically elected gov. Not one Israeli soldier or civilian was allowed to set foot in Gaza, while Gazans came to work and get med attention in Israel daily.
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What's the definition of Zionism?
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His experience might've been painful going through the Holocaust, but his conclusions are wrong.
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@StuSiney By all means, if you understand his fractured English. I had hard time but maybe it's just me.
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@StuSiney Keep in mind too that he's paid for saying that. Phycological warfare. He's got no evidence, no proof. just blah blah
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@StuSiney Nope, I don't get paid. I don't have a channel or get invited by any hosts as a speaker. And I am not a holocaust survivor, either. No tattoo on my arm to show the "authenticity" or elicit sympathy and therefore supposedly trust.
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@spiraljumper74 Sorry to upset you, but I don't know what you're talking about. If you can explain, maybe I'll answer you. Until then, have a nice day.
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@spiraljumper74 I am still not sure what you mean. I didn't know there was a timeframe to join and an avatar was required. There are other users w/random names and no avatars, so I am guessing it's allowed. I also don't know what you mean by specific topics and specific ways. I guess ppl post on what they want or have interest in, didn't know there are certain rules of posting. You don't have to read my posts, this is clearly not a requirement. I hope you have a good night.
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Fake pics in the video, sorry. It's a montage, not real footage.
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@Mirul-ef3jb I thought I already replied to you, sorry if you didn't receive it. 1. I said absentee landlords sold their deeds too the Jews who came in the late 19th century. The money for the purchase was raised by international community, mostly Jewish communities around the world. So those were legal purchases, nobody was displaced. The Jewish enterprise in the Holy Land (Israel) attracted Arabs b.c the Jews provided jobs and services. When Israel came into being in 1948, the Arabs were encouraged to stay. Those who did are now citizens of Israel, 20% of population. Others left voluntarily following the call of Arab neighbors who went to war w/Israel and lost. Still the Arabs were allowed too return if they wanted to and could prove their land deeds. Everything would've been returned to them or they would've been compensated. Intifada, as you call it, was a terror wave that the Arabs in Israel started in the 1990s after the Oslo accords so as to derail them. 1,000+ Israelis were killed then. It had nothing to do w/displacement. That word in Arabic is Nakhba for displacement, not intifada. Finally, the Holy Land is not Palestine, it's Israel. Thank you for your time.
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@NerdicusGoblinski I am sorry you're equating Israel w/the Nazis, The goal of the Nazi Germany was to conquer most of Europe and Africa and repossess English and French colonies in Africa. I don't believe Israel has any of those goals in mind. Thank you.
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@NerdicusGoblinski Would you mind showing me the document where it's openly expressed? All I know we gave Sinai to Egypt, gained nothing in return, plus offered the Arabs a state on both sides of Israel, which they refused many times, I don't know what else they want, Oh wait, I know. They want to leech of us as they have since 1967, get every last thing from us, money, jobs, services, utilities, etc nothing of their own, everything from Israel, no wonder they don't want a state. Genocide? Really? They don't want to live w/us, just go, no holding you. Except that like it here, like to cry victims while driving their Mercedeses to pick up the UN handouts. not one casualty count has ever been verified by anybody. Hamas could say 1 million died and they would believe it. No, the court didn't find anything, a supposition is not a verdict. Thank you
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@thesilentpearl8575 It could've been that some local commanders pushed them out but it was never the policy of the State to do it. Ben Gurion was adamant in his insistence for them to stay. Before the State, there was a lot of Arab terror against the Jews, especially after the UN partition vote, they decimated multiple convoys, including the Hadassah med convoy that carried outstanding clinicians. There was a Hebron massacre before that (1929), Kfar Etzion massacre in 1948 where they killed over 100 ppl. The terror was relentless for many years. The Jewish paramilitary groups terrorized the Brits, not so much the Arabs. I don't think the Jews ever viewed Arabs as real enemies.
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@RSAgility Sorry, I am not sure what you mean. Which post are you answering? Thank you.
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@1AstritIsm Thank you, Sir/Ma'am. I appreciate your comment.
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@1AstritIsm I just did. Thanks again, I appreciate your comment. Have a good night.
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@Mirul-ef3jb I am sorry, Sir/Ma'am, I've never said there was a state in the early 19th century. The state was established in 1948, Thank you
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@NerdicusGoblinski I am sorry Sir/Ma'am, didn't mean to upset you. Hope you're feeling better.
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He's paid for what he's saying to please you.
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@f4wnz132 Late start for what? Thank you.
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@JenaBakalov Gaza is free, not sure what kind of freedom you're seeking for it. Thank you
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@f4wnz132 I wasn't aware about the time limits; however, they let me open mine this time.
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@FaycalOuazine Holocaust survivors are getting old and senile. They are losing their marbles in a hurry, sorry to say.
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@OzAbi Sorry to hear that, glad it's just you.
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I am sorry you feel this way. I am proud of my religion and ethnicity.
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This man clearly doesn't live in Israel and never visited. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
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I don't know if he's antisemitic, but he's clearly politically motived and paid for saying that.
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@coaldoubt2879 Nope, nor being paid.
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The old man has clearly lost the sense of reality. Saying that we Israelis dehumanize the Arabs is nonsense. 20% of our population is Muslim Arabs who are full citizens w/ every right and privilege. We live together in every city and village. Not one Israeli is taught to hate them. They, however, are totally different. They have invented a mantra of "occupation" whereby they solicit donations from the world which they use for personal enrichment. The Hamas bosses are worth billions, they live in palatial villas and stay in 5 star hotels while their ppl are starving and dying for them driven by the lies they're feeding them. That's dehumanization. We in Israel are trying to educate them otherwise, but unfortunately, they're not illustrious scholars, just like the gentleman in the vid. Sorry.
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This is a pretty ridiculous vid, pure propaganda. Somebody who lived through the holocaust is made an expert on Israel, yeah, right. There are lots and lots of ppl who lived through the same, came to Israel after the war and became its proud citizens. Some are still alive today. The fact that this man (provided he didn't get paid for saying this drivel) feels the way he does doesn't prove one thing he said. It's just his personal take, no more.
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Not real truth, just his take. We all have a right for an opinion. Sorry.
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I don't believe this man has ever been to Israel and certainly not on Oct 7. I don't believe he saw what happened on that day. I don't believe he saw how many Israeli Arabs acted heroically to save their Jewish neighbors from the barbarity of their co-religionists and themselves were killed by Hamas which didn't care that they were also Arabs. There was an Arab woman who saved her entire village, mostly Jewish, taking advantage of the fact that she spoke Arabic and held off hordes of Hamas for hours until the army arrived. Nobody was killed in her village thanks to her. There were Arab Muslim paramedics and first responders who risked their own lives to save others and did it voluntarily w/o pay. He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about if he says that we in Israel hate the Arabs. We don't hate them. They're our brothers and sisters. We all live together and help each other. And on Oct 7, nobody knows how many more of us would've been killed or captured if it hadn't been for our Arab neighbors who saved them. Hamas, however, killed and captured scores of their own ppl.
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@Huskymanus The world didn't start on Oct 7? I guess I have to agree. The world didn't indeed.
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I agree, we can't forget the Oct 7 and all the atrocities of that day. That's why, we, the State of Israel, has risen as one to defend our ppl, our country and our dignity. Am Israel Chai!
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@laurafalciani6353 Our soldiers including females are the most beautiful ppl in the world. And no, they're not heavily armed, you weren't in Israel if you 're saying that. Sorry
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Where are you seeing it? In the USA?
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how come Ben Gurion didn't deport them when he could, moreover, encouraged them to stay? How come we didn't deport them in 1967? how come we have 20% of our citizens Muslim Arabs who live side by side w/us and enjoy all the rights and privileges while most of them don't serve in the army? How is it that we don't deport them? How come we provide every last thing to the administered zones, money, jobs, medical, utilities, etc despite their continuing terrorism? Thank you
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@laurafalciani6353 I am glad you don't have to have it in your country. We in Israel have no choice.
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So being an Israeli, what do you think about the events of Oct 7? Also what's your opinion about the events that preceded it, such as rocket barrages and demonstrations along the border fence complete w/throwing explosives, etc. Thank you
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@eddastrohmayer251 If they're more interested in their countries of origin, why did they come to Israel? I don't really understand that. I am not native either, I am Russian born, but I never once looked back at my birth country. I don't even know what's going on there. I mean nobody is forced to emigrate. If you like your land, just stay there and enjoy your love.
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@eddastrohmayer251 Well then, unto everyone their own.
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