Youtube comments of SciFi Realism (@scifirealism5943).

  1. The reason there is a marriage penalty is because the government views disabled people as a burden and politicians believe a disabled person getting married should have that burden transfer from the state to the spouse.
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  2. My mom died in sickness and poverty, and medicaid was expanded after her death. I lost section 8 housing and food stamps, leaving me homeless and starving if not for my dad taking me in. And news ignores the poor. I will never forgive this country for causing her death.
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  3. Leeja, you've convinced me that the entire criminal justice system exists to protect the rich from the poor.
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  4. Conservatives and capitalists need to stop attaching value to people based on whether or not they work. The idea that if you can't work you have no value is disgusting.
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  5. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country
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  6. Thread from reddit: What's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor? Top answer: Getting government money. People will shame poor people for using food stamps, medicaid, or Pell grants, but Applaud billionaires for receiving tax cuts, loan forgiveness, or corporate bailouts. It isn't about the raw numbers, many Americans believe they get nothing in exchange for helping the poor.
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  7. My mom died because she didn't have adequate healthcare, and juggling school, work and caretaking was too much. I lost pell grants despite her death. I was kicked out of her section 8 housing, leaving me homeless if not for my dad helping me. I have lost food stamps because I don't work, and most doctors don't take medicaid and its limits force me to not make more $20k a year. I'm poor and sit at home, can't go to community college, and am shackled with watching my disabled brother. So I'm poor and unskilled at 30 years old, have nobody, and am on the verge of giving up on school and life. I hate this country.
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  8. That Jubilee video shows what happens when you defund public schools.
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  9. Reddit thread: What's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor? Getting government money.
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  10. Nobody with 24/7 armed security, armored transportation, and food services(all free) has the right to tell everyday citizens defending themselves is out of the question.
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  11. I couldn't get section 8 housing when I was younger because I attended community college- going to community college or university disqualifies you even if you're poor. Now I'm 29 and going to school, I still can't get subsidized housing because I'm "able-bodied without dependents."
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  12. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country
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  13. 1. Cancel student debt 2. Cancel medical debt 3. Raise minimum wage to a living wage 4. Stop tying health insurance to employment
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  14. Funny these politicians went to college when it was $900/year, I'd like to see them pay for college now.
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  15. Nobody wants to listen to poor people such as myself. I make $10/hr as a cashier and $900/semester as an intern.
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  16. That's the point. Politicians want to make education harder to access.
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  17. She had 3 years to advocate for the poor. For living wage, unions, robust welfare, and free college. She did nothing.
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  18. A thread from Reddit: "What's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor?" Top reply: "Getting government money."
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  19. That's evil
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  20. That's fucked up.
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  21. And people say corporations are good
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  22. The point is to keep poor people in poverty. Look up family assistance plan under Nixon
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  23. "It's all about money for you." This, right here encapsulates the hypocrisy of corporations in one sentence. When workers demand higher wages or benefits, corporations say, "Where's my Profit incentive?" When corporations tell poor people to work and poor people say they make too little, corporations tell them "You're greedy for asking for more money."
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  24. My mom died in sickness and poverty because Medicaid and other welfare programs are insufficient. Yet her death wasn't on the news. I won't forgive this country for not having universal health care.
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  25. You misunderstand something. The American economy runs on poverty. Without poverty, workers would have solidarity and could reject dead-end job offers. If no poverty existed in America, no one would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement. No one would work any type of trade job where the pay doesn't at least match the rate of inflation and offer decent benefits.
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  26. I hate both parties.
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  27. So we oppose a $15 minimum wage but support people making 20. MILLION. DOLLARS. PER. FUCKING. YEAR?!
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  28. Why is it people shame poor people for receiving welfare but not the rich? Subsidizing poor people is cheaper than subsidizing rich people and bailing out their failed businesses. Poor people just want a better life, but rich people actively want to make more money at the expense of others.
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  29. I believe the reason women don't act like George is because men feel ENTITLED to women and sex.
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  30. There is racism, but above all classism- Trump welcomes rich immigrants only. He doesn't want poor or middle class immigrants.
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  31. USA has sent $74 billion to Ukraine, and $18 billion to Israel(planned), But I can't afford rent or food? Why vote in November?
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  32. As if crime isn't already illegal, right?
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  33. $10.50/hour as a cashier at a supermarket. $9/hour as a cashier at a dollar store. No benefits. Horrible welfare.. Government ignores the poor.
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  34. Union-busting and service sector jobs have transformed this country into a low-wage nation.
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  35.  @KayFabe87  without those workers the company doesn't function, skill or no skill. And yes pay for college, a $100k+ price tag... Making $7.25. And point the fingers at the employers for creating such low wage jobs in the first place.
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  36. I want the government to revoke all patents and subsidies, bankrupting big pharma, until they lowered drug prices to reasonable levels.
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  37. If he felt any real pain he'd not only forgive all student debt, he'd give students an additional $50k to pursue college.
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  38. Poverty primarily exists to ensure there are desperate workers to work for slave wages and do dead-end jobs that rich people don't want to do. Herbert Gans wrote about this in an essay called "Functions of Poverty."
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  39. 140 million people are in poverty at the same time billionaires exist. Trillions are doled out to corporations but $20k student loan debt relief "breaks the economy." Maybe if i wasn't in poverty despite doing 3 different classes at 2 different colleges at once, working as a cashier at a supermarket, being an intern, volunteering, and helping take care of a sick family member, all at once last Spring, then I'd have some respect for USA.
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  40. While i make $10.50/hr as a cashier, $900/semester as an intern, can't afford community college, and use welfare, and 43% of the population lives in poverty, then no, I'll never support the existence of a single billionaire.
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  41. Yep.
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  42. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country
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  43. You've brought up one of the 2 reasons why usa has so much poverty...low wage work. A high school diploma was a ticket to the middle class. Now a high school diploma gives you access to minimum wage jobs.
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  44. He's lying about two things 1. Many conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty 2. Corporations support illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay. 3. Capitalism runs on poverty. If poverty didn't exist, workers would reject slave wages and dead-end jobs. Gotta maintain poverty, homelessness, and unemployment to keep workers in line.
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  45.  @ebonychan  it's super messed up.
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  46. It's called just-world fallacy. Many people think poor people haven't "Worked hard enough" to "earn" government assistance.
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  47. Corporations support immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  48. One of the core ideological differences between the left and the right has to do with classism and justice. I've noticed that the left tends to oppose any policy which treats the poor differently than the rich. This applies not just to welfare, but criminal justice as well. The right believes several injustices: 1. Poor people are supposed to prove their character by being willing to expend limitless effort for minimal returns, but property owners ask, in the same breath, how there can be literally any growth, innovation, or progress if their potential rewards aren't limitless. Like, just a lot isn't sufficient incentive for a rich person to contribute. It has to be everything. But if a poor person holds out for a living wage, they're just a bad and greedy person. 2. the pundits I've seen on the news have been saying for years that if minimum wage jobs don't pay enough, that's the fault of the workers for staying in those jobs. If they were good workers, they would either be readily rewarded with higher wages, freely given - or they would leave seeking better opportunities. But now circumstances have allowed some of those workers to leave and it turns out we wanted them to be trapped in those bad jobs and they are bad people for choosing to go elsewhere.
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  49. My mom died because she didn't have adequate healthcare, and juggling school, work and caretaking was too much. I lost pell grants despite her death. I was kicked out of her section 8 housing, leaving me homeless if not for my dad helping me. I have lost food stamps because I don't work, and most doctors don't take medicaid and its limits force me to not make more $20k a year. I'm poor and sit at home, can't go to community college, and am shackled with watching my disabled brother. So I'm poor and unskilled at 30 years old, have nobody, and am on the verge of giving up on school and life. I hate this country.
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  50. I hated trump being a McDonald's worker. He was a rich person pretending to be poor. How about actually being poor with no way up or out? Or a poor person pretending to be rich?
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  51. Corporations support immigration because they want access to labor forces who can't afford to argue and will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  52. Meanwhile 43% population is poor or low-income.
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  53. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  54. I will never support billionaires as long as half the country is in poverty.
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  55. Because politicians want the "burden" of taking care of disabled people to transfer from the state to the spouse.
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  56. Correct. I can't afford tuition or rent or healthcare.
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  57. How are poor and disabled people supposed to afford private school tuition? In addition to medical expenses, living expenses, etc.?
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  58. My mom died in sickness and poverty, and medicaid was expanded after her death. I lost section 8 housing and food stamps, leaving me homeless and starving if not for my dad taking me in. And news ignores the poor. I will never forgive this country for causing her death.
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  59. Because they're calvinists.
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  60. "Transitional jobs?" Transitions to what? Everyone can't work there way up from minimum wage work.
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  61. The real political problem with a guaranteed income isn’t the costs, but the benefits: Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  62. They don't believe healthcare is a right.
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  63.  @lmfao7224  usa is ruled by greed. Over half of us workers make under $60k a year. Meanwhile Steve Cohen makes $2.3 billion a year. Bill Gates has $110 billion
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  64.  @anzumazaki7798  many Americans believe rich people deserve welfare but poor people don't.
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  65. Gotta shame poor people!!!! - Fox news mantra
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  66. When money is spent to help the rich it's called an "investment" but when money is spent to help the poor it is called an "entitlement."
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  67. My mom died in sickness and poverty, and medicaid was expanded after her death. I lost section 8 housing and food stamps, leaving me homeless and starving if not for my dad taking me in. And news ignores the poor. I will never forgive this country for causing her death.
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  68. I'm poor. We're 43% of the population with no voice. Why do politicians ignore us? I've contacted politicians and some responded but no fundamental change occurs.
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  69. Hatred.
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  70. Minimum wage jobs offer none of those things
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  71. Minimum wage jobs are considered entry-level and all offer nothing
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  72. Every time a CEO cries an angel gets their wings.
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  73. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country.
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  74. Doctors can refuse to work for $10/hr. Cashiers can't. Not on their own. When i was cashier, my $17/hr wage proposal was rejected. I was paid $10/hr. My "raise" was $0.50. A minimum wage is needed to provide bargaining power for low wage workers.
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  75. This is how higher education became another avenue to make money for people who do not need money. There is another goal. It is not money. It is the disadvantage. It is the wall. It is the lack of access. That is the goal. When the rich say they want money that is a distraction for the poor. That’s an easy lie for the poor to believe because the poor want money. The goal is a halt to progress. The goal is a halt to advancement of people they feel do not deserve advancement.
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  76. ​ @monash4250 I believe poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity. The EITC cut child poverty in half overnight, but those benefits expired.
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  77. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country
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  78. I would prefer free college and healthcare
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  79. I made $10.50/hour as a cashier and $60/week as an intern. I now an unemployed and have little welfare, meaning I'd be dead if not for family assistance.
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  80.  @lmfao7224  USA healthcare is a $3.5 trillion a year industry, $150 billion of which is profits from pharmaceutical drugs.
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  81. It needs to be written in the constitution, that one job must pay enough to people for them to not be in poverty, enough for them to live a healthy and humane life.
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  82. You're right. But conservatives oppose any policies that help the poor
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  83. 1. Living wage 2. Mandatory benefits like PTO 3. Healthcare not tied to employment/medicare for all 4. UBI
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  84. Corporations support Illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  85. Our government could wipe out poverty, homelessness, hunger, student loan debt, and starvation wages all overnight and yet we get this?
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  86. It's depressing, isn't it?
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  87. Why do these pundits always insult people they won't debate themselves? Insult minimum wage workers but don't interview them. Insult immigrants but won't interview them.
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  88. ​ @clayraro many people think if you can't work you have no value. Thus, they want you to suffer.
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  89. I hope to-one day- win a journalism scholarship to create a news media company. I want to be the first poor person to challenge these rich pricks.
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  90. Many people think disabled people provide no value to society because they are unable to work. Why are there limits on what poor and disabled people can earn, but not billionaires or doctors? This is about the fact many Americans don't believe everyone is equally important. I watch my disabled brother all weekdays, it interferes with me going to school. He can't have more than $2,000 in his bank account. If he works, he is stuck working minimum wage. If he makes minimum wage full-time, he loses more money from benefits than what he can earn from working.
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  91. But ending homelessness and raising minimum wage by $7 cost too much.
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  92. The onus is on corporations, they support open borders - both illegal immigration and legal immigration tied to employment - Because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  93. It's all by design
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  94. Because being rich isn't just about having money, but power.
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  95. I'll never understand why poor and middle class people defend billionaires when billionaires outright don't do the same for them.
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  96. Don't talk to them
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  97. Because they don't believe all people are equally important, thus they believe different morals should apply to different groups of people.
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  98. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  99. I wish politicians themselves made minimum wage, had no medicaid or college education, no worker's rights, and no home. And then get a pay cut based on their approval rating.
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  100. Help poor people then. We're 43% of the population but have no voice.
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  101. It's all by design
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  102. People with 24/7 armed security, having no restrictions on gun ownership whatsoever, have no right to tell everyone else having guns is unnecessary.
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  103. Epic.
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  104. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  105. I'm extremely poor and dependent on my dad financially. Both parties ignore the poor.
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  106. I was dead imfao.
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  107. Cover up the desire for cheap labor
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  108. Many people think fast food workers deserve poverty.
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  109. Corporations support immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  110. ​ @chris135x lol.
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  111. It needs to be written in the constitution, that one job must pay enough to people to not be in poverty, enough to live a healthy and humane life.
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  112. Rich people think that you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  113. Look up frisbee antimatter starship. It's 500 kilometers long and has four stages.
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  114. I was kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits.
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  115. The problem with immigration and welfare is the same: corporations want cheap labor, they can't do that if welfare programs are robust or illegal immigrants can't be exploited.
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  116.  @hexbunny13  correct. 50% of the country works in near minimum wage jobs.
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  117. This is depressing
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  118. ​ @mrgaudy1954 exactly. It's nonsense.
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  119. I'm in NC. I work minimum wage while in community college. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. Most jobs pay less than $15/hr. Even if i made $30/hr, i simply cannot afford $2000 a month rent, plus I must make three times this to qualify.
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  120. Except that helps the poor, so conservatives hate it.
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  121.  @NapBona1776  you believe in just-world fallacy if you think poverty is due to laziness. Most poor people already work, their pay is just shit.
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  122. Meanwhile i make $10.50/hour as a cashier and use welfare.
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  123. That's one reason. You should read Herbert gans functions of poverty. The main reason the GOP loves poverty is because they want a labor pool that is willing to do minimum wage jobs. Capitalism ideology thrives on a deprived population unwilling to work or is inferior for relying on welfare or charity.
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  124.  @hochmeisterr  okay that doesn't discredit my point. Subsidies given to the rich are based on them "deserving" it, where as subsidies to the poor are "undeserving." Subsidies to the poor that are restricted to ensure the poor can never achieve financial freedom? That's a false equivalence. Food stamps, medicaid, etc are restricted far too much.
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  125. I may be employed but poverty is terrible. As a cashier, I make $10.50/hr, receive no benefits or chance for advancements. I'm an intern making $900/semester. I receive welfare and food from food banks.
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  126. I love that it is always people with 24/7 armed security telling everyday people that they don't need to defend themselves.
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  127. It's a way to demean poor people.
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  128. I just turned 29 and I'm still a virgin.
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  129. @Turkey_Hill  welfare, healthcare, and education are all policy choices. Nothing about the way these systems are structured is accidental or out of our control. The government restricts welfare in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. And opposes universal health insurance so people are forced to accept medical debt.
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  130. ​ @Novusod that's a dumb belief mate
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  131. Rich people go to private schools.
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  132. Because poor people like myself can't afford to run for office
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  133. Unfortunately religion fuels political ideology whether you want it to or not. Welfare is restricted based on Christian ideology that poor people must suffer to earn God's acceptance.
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  134. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  135. ​@Patrick-pu5di the economy runs on poverty. Consumers demand low prices and quick goods, and this requires millions of workers working for low wages. Corporations view rising worker power, not continued poverty, as unacceptable.
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  136. It's called just-world fallacy. It fuels American ideology.
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  137. Because rich people deserve government assistance but poor people don't
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  138. When I went to community college 10 years ago I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country.
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  139. Because helping the rich is right, helping the poor is wrong.
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  140. Yet poor people still get shamed for wanting a living wage
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  141.  @hochmeisterr  inflation was a way of corporations punishing workers for gaining bargaining power.
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  142. This is PRECISELY why we don't help the poor as much as the rich- because it would be a proof of principle that poverty is a policy choice. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is a debt-free life, not unaffordable education, that politicians deem unacceptable.
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  143.  @stijnhs  in USA, you only get benefits at minimum wage if you work 32 hours a week. So MW jobs only schedule you for 28 hours a week.
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  144. Yeah I thought that too.
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  145. How about count only these as real jobs: 1. Living wage 2. Benefits - health insurance, PTO, paid sick leave, paid family leave 3. Pay rate increases to match or exceed inflation Any company that has its workers on welfare will be taxed 2x-5x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits
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  146.  @juliahelland6488  that's evil.
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  147. I'm a virgin. I'm nearly 30.
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  148.  @lorenzodavis6843  that's messed up
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  149. That gave me hope, reading that.
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  150. To be a slave to the rich.
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  151. I don't know how he comes off as intelligent to anyone.
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  152. Thank you.
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  153. Corporations support illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  154. This is PRECISELY why the government doesn't help the poor as much as the rich - because it would be a proof of principle that poverty is a policy choice. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is a debt-free life, not unaffordable education, that politicians deem unacceptable.
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  155. Not to mention it's minimum wage. When millions of people can replace you, employers can suppress wages.
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  156.  @Eli-ss9gj  because rich people don't want to end poverty
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  157. That's messed up
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  158.  @KevinThomas-ok2ev  half of the population is in poverty, millions have no savings or healthcare or college degree.
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  159.  @CortexNewsService  I've met many conservatives who oppose any policies that go to the poor. One guy told me he wanted all government assistance for all poor people abolished to force people to work or starve.
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  160. ​ @markzuckergecko621 fallacy of relative privation.
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  161.  @seanpeacock4290  the problem with Republicans is they're using smoke and mirrors. They have a fundamental belief that some jobs have value and others do not. CEOs make millions yearly, and Republicans always say it's too little. Cashiers make $30 k a year, and they're making too much.
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  162. The irony is lost of many people
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  163.  @natalie5976  so they want slaves?
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  164.  @Pie1183Games  the idea that if you work hard and you'll be fine, is just-world fallacy..
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  165. LOL.
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  166.  @Lightning613  you pinged a hardcore Democrat. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is an armed populace, not continued crime, that politicians deem intolerable.
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  167. It's federal income taxes, most workers don't make enough to pay that and poor people pay other taxes(state, sales, etc.).
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  168. Because politicians don't want to end poverty.
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  169.  @troy3456789  I understand. On some level, these politicians have shown they truly don't desire to abolish crime.
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  170. correct.
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  171. politicians and the rich believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  172. When the government helps rich people it's called "capitalism." But when the government helps poor people it's called "socialism."
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  173. If the children aren't poor, immigrants, or minorities.*
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  174. Because people get angry at welfare for poor people not by the raw numbers but by the fact they believe poor people don't deserve help
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  175. ​ @cdevidal not for the poor and disabled
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  176. He also gets the full healthcare no matter how little he works.
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  177. But since poor people aren't in politics, they can't fight against the hate
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  178. STEM field is sold out to contract work.
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  179. I think college endowments is something like 700 billion dollars a year. They could pay off the student loans themselves.
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  180. ​ @neetpride5919 he believes people who don't work have no value.
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  181. You're right My mom died in sickness and poverty and her death wasn't on the news
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  182. Exactly
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  183. Thread from reddit: What's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor? Top answer: Getting government money. People will shame poor people for using food stamps, medicaid, or Pell grants, but Applaud billionaires for receiving tax cuts, loan forgiveness, or corporate bailouts. It isn't about the raw numbers, many Americans believe they get nothing in exchange for helping the poor.
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  184. I would tax corporations 2x-5x the amount their employees used in welfare benefits.
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  185. I've noticed when money is spent to help the rich it's called an investment but when money is spent to help the poor it's called an entitlement.
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  186. But I become a felon stealing $400
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  187. Because politicians believe poor people shouldn't be educated.
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  188. The problem is many people think disabled people are NOT equal to able-bodied people and don't deserve the same treatment or quality of life
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  189. Gotta insult poor people who can't afford to run for office or fight back.
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  190. That's messed up
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  191. Correct. The most contempt I see is for the poor.
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  192.  @rulerovall1219  he's a troll. ignore him.
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  193. ​ @Justowner I worked very hard as a cashier at McDonald's for 3 years. I made $8.50/hr. I can't negotiate for $15/hr on my own. Not without a minimum wage increase or unions.
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  194. ​@KevinThomas-ok2ev not everyone can do that?
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  195. Exactly. I'm in USA. I make $10.50/hr, receive zero benefits or chance for advancement. I have Medicaid, no food stamps, and no way to pay for college.
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  196.  @ChinonsoNnadozie  thank you
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  197. ​ @FunRunEndsInTragedy that's worse
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  198.  @TheWereOwl  that's awful too
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  199.  @stijnhs  I'm crying.
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  200. To lock poor people out of education
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  201.  @mylifesucksabit  poverty is a policy choice.
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  202. If they had this much passion in fighting against poverty, they would never have to worry about losing power.
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  203. The irony is lost on them.
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  204. @leobigelow7021  so you're opposed to the inconveniences which would accompany poverty's elimination.
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  205. Antitrust laws exist now. They just aren't strong enough.
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  206.  @ookamiblade6318  that makes perfect sense. And I see why I'm leftist, and oppose justice treating poor people and rich people differently- it creates a moral hazard of implying poor people aren't human or that rich people are allowed to inflict more pain upon others.
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  207.  @LiMaking  The median income used to be 60 to 70% the cost of a home. With $400,000 homes in my city I'd have to make $280,000/yr to be in the same position. Even most people with a college education don't make that.
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  208.  @who2u333  the rich and powerful.
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  209. That's evil
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  210. Disgusting isn't it?
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  211. Because it's about power and control. corporations, the capitalist class, need to have desperate workers to work for crummy wages. Otherwise, they won't have anyone to exploit.
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  212. That's evil
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  213. It's based on just world fallacy
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  214.  @LTCHenryL  What is wrong with you?
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  215. Beautiful comment:)
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  216. Poverty is a policy choice.
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  217. What am i supposed to do as a poor person? Be happy making $10.50/hr? Be told that making that is too much? Be told I'm a failure for going to college, but because i cannot afford it, I'm a failure for that too? Now i pay too little in taxes.
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  218. I'd like Obama to create a podcast on how you can survive on 7.25 an hour.
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  219. These corporate owners disgust me. They thrive off of poverty.
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  220. It's about priorities.
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  221.  @Novusod  okay you're trolling so I'm not going to humor you.
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  222. It's $35,000....
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  223.  @hmnhntr  read Herbert gans functions of poverty Many people want poverty to exist to ensure society's dead-end jobs get done. They oppose both automation and living wages.
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  224.  xRiddleMeThisYouTube  I hate to say it but eliminating welfare won't deter the poor from using healthcare or education, so unless you want to ban the poor from...being human, then you must help the poor.
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  225.  @MrBlack-wt5er  renting is circular logic. You rent in order to save up enough money to buy a home you currently can't afford. But because the rent is so high, you can never save up enough money to buy a home, only to pay more rent.
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  226.  @ICBMCatcher  employees don't have enough negotiating power
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  227. ​ @lv1543 you're cruel.
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  228. Yes. As long as politicians remain rich themselves, they refuse to care about others
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  229. Because many people believe some jobs have value and others do not. A ceo makes $100 million and it's ok. But a waiter making $100k is too much.
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  230. Poor people have no political voice
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  231. He'd raise minimum wage to $80/hour.
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  232. It's called just-world fallacy and Calvinism
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  233.  @ralphemerson497  so people are parasites for not wanting to be slaves?
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  234. It's corporate media. What do you expect?
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  235.  @Kirito14682  he took out loans because colleges aren't tuition-free like they are in virtually every other industrialized Nation.
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  236.  @juniorgod321  i support all of that. Tha sounds good to me. It isn't magic, it's about priorities. Our government has funneled trillions into Middle Eastern wars, subsidies for big pharma, and covid relief. It can certainly provide financial assistance to students.
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  237. At 30, after spending 10 years trying to earn a bachelor’s degree, I’m stuck in a cycle of poverty. I had to rely on welfare and Medicaid while taking care of my sick mom, who passed away after six years of illness. The stress caused me to flunk out of school and lose my financial aid, and despite the circumstances, my appeal was denied. I lost Section 8 housing, food stamps, and my safety net, leaving me homeless and starving and dependent on my dad to avoid death. Now, without a car or access to work-study jobs, I’m unable to continue my education. Even with an associate's degree, it would take over a decade to finish a bachelor’s while still being poor. I feel like I’ve lost both my mom and my 20s for nothing, and working at a supermarket again feels like admitting I’ve made no progress at all. But politicians ignore poor people like myself.
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  238. If politicians lost their wealth if they lost a debate, then They'd ACTUALLY care about their policies.
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  239. I'm an American and I get disgusted by this country more and more daily.
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  240. I make $10.50/hour as a cashier and rely on Medicaid, I can't afford anything
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  241.  @HandleNameIsStupid  I've noticed that capitalists love poverty for two reasons. The first is they believe in the myth of meritocracy. They have the mistaken idea that anyone can become anything they want with enough hard work, either luck does not exist or is not a contributing factor. Therefore if you are born poor it is not your fault but if you die poor it is. Within this Paradigm, helping the poor become middle class is wrong because that's rewarding failure. And the second reason is they have a fundamental belief that some jobs have value and others do not. No one is upset over a CEO making 32 million dollars a year, but we are having a national debate over paying cashiers $32,000 year as if we're trying to legalize rape. In other words, politicians don't believe all jobs deserve to make people middle-class or Rich. Skilled jobs like CEOs deserve to be rich, unskilled jobs deserve to make people poor, and S.T.E.M. jobs deserve to make people middle class.
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  242.  @ralphemerson497  without those employees the business doesn't function, skill or no skill. And you admitting employees have no say in wages, as if they bring nothing to the table. Every job should support a family.
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  243. There is also another terrible thing they're saying. Inflation and unemployment are risks associated with workers gaining more bargaining power. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that he finds unacceptable.
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  244.  @TheBlargMarg  it's a power armored suit that can use electro servo motors to give the wearer super strength.
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  245. My mom had Medicaid while I was in community college but its restrictions meant she couldn't use the grant to take care of herself, so I did. She ultimately passed away. I was forced onto Medicaid by losing my premium tax credits that kept my health insurance premium at $20, to $436. Now, I'm catching hell finding a doctor because most doctors refuse to accept Medicaid. If NC imposes work requirements for Medicaid, then I'll be screwed because that's how I lost my food stamps. This video breaks my heart.
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  246. Because the government and corporations don't want to end poverty.
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  247.  @WatermelOns53  minimum wage workers may not produce as much value as CEOs per capita, but they generate far more profits per year than the minimum wage they receive.
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  248.  @DistrustHumanz  which section 8 housing could provide if it wasn't restricted to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  249.  @vg7985  my comment was a joke. Obviously the poor deserve government assistance
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  250. I've given up on dating and hook up apps.
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  251. ​ @Byrd21590 so only rich people should go to college?
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  252. ​ @E.J.Crunkleton exactly.
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  253.  @IvoryLoaf  wow
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  254. Exactly
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  255. I cried reading that
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  256. ​ @mzaite that's by design though
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  257. ​ @That_Guy00 I believe poverty exists to control workers
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  258. The truth of our politics lies in the prices we are unwilling to pay, the consequences we are unwilling to tolerate, the risks we refuse to accept. We have the capability of making College tuition-free, it is within our power. It is simply not among our priorities.
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  259. I'm on medicaid. Most doctors don't take it and I'm kept in poverty because the poverty is is only $20k.
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  260. It can, it won't because people who don't need medical debt won't work for slave wages I'm on Medicaid. It sucks
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  261.  @jenbialek  I'm sorry to hear that
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  262. You can't buy intimacy. And most incels are broke. It isn't real sex if you have to pay someone
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  263. That's the point - trump doesn't want poor or disabled people having an education
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  264. Owned.
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  265. Exactly.
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  266. Women can afford to be entitled to sex because they have no problem getting it.
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  267.  @Dhi_Bee  his viewers still hate poor people. It isn't about logic to them.
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  268. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  269. That's because conservatives believe in the myth of meritocracy.
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  270.  chiefhandlerdespisesthepoo8575  why?
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  271. 43% of the population makes poverty wages. You aren't alone.
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  272. Why do politicians ignore the poor?
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  273. The problem with this is reforming healthcare isn't profitable. Especially for poor people such as myself. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits, hence why i fall in the medicaid gap.
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  274. She ignores the poor, so I don't vote. She isn't for helping the poor.
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  275. Correct.
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  276.  @ICBMCatcher  Okay buddy. You keep believing that lie.
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  277. Also notice how laffer said it. These PEOPLE. not these JOBS.
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  278. I don't understand what the problem is. Politicians are tired of all of this poverty and financial desperation but when they get in the office they pay the rich More and the poor less and then wonder why things are the same.
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  279. That too. We have a pathetic minimum wage. The rich have strong patent laws, unlimited acquisitions and merger's, and corporate subsidies and bailouts to thank for keeping them wealthy.
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  280. I'd like Bill Maher to explain how my life is great. I can't afford community college tuition. I'm on Medicaid because schools don't offer health insurance. I have no car because working is hard while attending school. I can't even afford a gym membership. I think about giving up on life daily because of my poverty.
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  281.  @tioswift3676  they had a job.
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  282. Exactly.
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  283. I was in tears imfao.
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  284.  @maximemeis2867  ? Do you want everyone who isn't rich to rely on charity? I will never understand why Americans agree to collectively help one another through society but then look down on the less fortunate(implying those who rely on welfare or charity for survival are inferior).
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  285.  @KarenL810  CEOs want poverty, they thrive off of it. News media ignores poverty for the most part. It's messed up.
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  286. Poor people can't be libertarian.
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  287. Holy crap.
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  288.  @HandleNameIsStupid  because many people have been sold on to the lie that they too will become rich with enough hard work.
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  289. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier at a supermarket. I don't work while attending community college full-time. Most jobs pay crazy low wages: $9-$12/hr
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  290. Beautiful.
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  291. Because they're deluded into believing they'll be rich.
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  292. Thank you. Most open jobs pay crazy low wages, I was making less than $9/hr at one point.
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  293. This is a big win for many workers. I wish entry level workers were treated better. Most entry level jobs only schedule you 25 hours a week so you don't get benefits.
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  294. Because corporations want workers poor and desperate. It's not about profits, it's about power and control.
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  295. Does trump think everyone is as rich as him?
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  296. ​@JesusPriceSuperstar when did we try that?
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  297. When I was a cashier at Walmart, I made $11/hr. I couldn't afford the very clothes that I helped sell. I had to buy clothes at the Good will. It made me cry a single uniform costs more than what the job paid me.
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  298. @lv1543  not everyone can "get better jobs."
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  299. ​ @RaymondHng  gun ownership is a privilege as well.
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  300. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable. Republicans hate welfare for the same reason: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  301.  @he.walks.among.us_  Yes even ugly girls get laid.
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  302. I forgot to add context: I don't believe what I said, I was repeating Fox News Mantra.
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  303. Because MSM ignores the poor
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  304. I'm Upset at welfare for the wrong reasons. Welfare in this country is essentially delivering money from the rich to the poor. But if there was no one in poverty we wouldn't have to keep doing this. But instead, politicians get in office and they pay the rich more and more and pay the poor less and less so we have to keep dealing with the same thing again.
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  305. ROFL.
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  306. Why do politicians from both sides ignore the poor? I'm poor. 43% of the population is poor or low-income.
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  307.  @brianmelendy1194  fallacy of relative privation.
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  308. It's messed up how politicians can easily not raise the minimum wage not give people Healthcare not give people free college But they can easily give themselves six-figure salaries, stock options, and not once in their careers have they reduced their salaries to minimum wage or healthcare to Medicaid.
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  309. I feel like an anomaly
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  310. Poor people like myself are ignored.
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  311. I lost my food stamps because of the work requirements
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  312.  @jai-kk5uu  you're evil
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  313. $16 million a year
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  314. Correct.
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  315. War is a policy choice.
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  316. Exactly.
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  317.  @miahsaint-georges  yep. This
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  318.  @jamesalias595  she's not reliant on Medicaid because she wants to be. Poverty is not an individual failing.
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  319. Yet poor people still get shamed for wanting a living wage.
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  320. It needs to be written in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough to people for them to not be in poverty, enough for them to live a healthy and humane life.
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  321. They believe rich people are owed limitless success and money.
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  322. Priorities
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  323. Patrick subscribes to just-world fallacy.
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  324. Exactly ​ @SirIsaacClarke 
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  325.  @WarHawk-  I know. I'm saying politicians WANT poverty to exist because poverty ensures minimum wage jobs can be filled. No billionaire or doctor would accept such terrible working conditions, so Republicans have a vested interest in keeping people poor to help corporations make massive profits(lowering wages, gutting unions, reducing welfare)
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  326.  @maximemeis2867  everyone can't rely on themselves. Anyone who believes poverty is a choice or individual failing believes in just-world fallacy. If you accept being part of society, I believe you do have an obligation to help others. If you don't want that duty to be imposed upon you, fine, go live in the woods or the desert. But don't shame those who simply want a better life for themselves and their families. You should be angry at Reagan for creating this problem, since he felt poor people shouldn't be educated.
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  327. Correct.
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  328. Exactly.
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  329. ​ @MiraBoo exactly
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  330.  @plantbasedsenior4240  you're correct.
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  331. Politicians believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  332. Did he say hunger is a RELATIVE term?
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  333. Yes. Both.
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  334. That's not what this debate is about. The republican moral code says they have the right to tell others what to believe.
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  335. The goal is to have rich people go to private schools, middle class people go to public school, and poor people go nowhere
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  336. Poverty functions to ensure society's dirty work gets done - Herbert Gans
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  337. Yep.
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  338.  @d-meth  that's what I call being an other wallet warrior, getting mad at others getting something for free you had to work for. How about you be mad at greedy corporations who pay people poverty wages, thus ensuring there is a demand for Medicaid in the first place? Or at health insurance companies who make healthcare unaffordable? Your anger is at the wrong group of people.
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  339.  @FarenHalven  I'm dealing with that right now even with Medicaid expansion. if I make above 20k, then I lose Medicaid. if I make above 50k I get private insurance. But if I make between the two I have neither.
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  340. Correct. But these politicians trash the poor without being poor themselves.
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  341. That's enough to end poverty. End homelessness too.
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  342. When I went to higher education I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom.
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  343. No, but the check gave workers power to contest corporations. Corporations don't want to end poverty, because without poverty people would be more selective in the jobs they would apply to, let alone take.
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  344. The government is run by rich people, not poor people like myself
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  345. George carlin. "We need to give the rich more money because otherwise they'll lose the incentive to invest. As for the poor, they have lost their incentive to invest because we've given them too much money."
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  346. This reminds of disability pay being less than minimum wage. One woman's disabled daughter made $0.25/hr.
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  347. Wow.
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  348.  @truther001  that messed up.
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  349. ​ @usefulrandom1855 value is subjective. If people were paid based on profits and not skill, places like Chic Fil A would be paying their cashiers around $100,000/year.
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  350. But republicans have no problems increasing the deficit when it comes to ppp loans or tax cuts
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  351. At 30, after spending 10 years trying to earn a bachelor’s degree, I’m stuck in a cycle of poverty. I had to rely on welfare and Medicaid while taking care of my sick mom, who passed away after six years of illness. The stress caused me to flunk out of school and lose my financial aid, and despite the circumstances, my appeal was denied. I lost Section 8 housing, food stamps, and my safety net, leaving me homeless and starving and dependent on my dad to avoid death. Now, without a car or access to work-study jobs, I’m unable to continue my education. Even with an associate's degree, it would take over a decade to finish a bachelor’s while still being poor. I feel like I’ve lost both my mom and my 20s for nothing, and working at a supermarket again feels like admitting I’ve made no progress at all. But politicians ignore poor people like myself.
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  352. I'm also kept under 40 hours a week because if I was full time I will be eligible for benefits and I would take them.
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  353. Exactly
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  354. @4tuneagent  I don't understand why poor people vote Republican.
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  355. AN HONEST POLITICIAN. WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT?!
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  356.  @gowest8184  0. None.
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  357. They vote based on emotions.
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  358.  @herbertschulz4313  I know. I live here
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  359. Exactly.
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  360. ​ @aceous99 LOL.
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  361. ​ @SgtJoeSmith $15/hr is still a poverty wage thanks to inflation. And $20/hr is a poverty wage of you don't have health insurance, since many low wage jobs keep you part-time to avoid benefits.
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  362. ​@wrv341 sorry not sorry. If your employees(or any employee) needs government assistance to survive, figure out how to get them off of it as a business owner. Just as you're responsible for other business expenses, labor is one.
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  363.  @Gobbldeegoo1  thanks. I just had to rant because all I see are rich people shaming poor people.
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  364. He cut Medicaid and food stamps
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  365.  @leobigelow7021  it would eliminate poverty. And you aren't willing to pay that price to help the poor, meaning you don't want to help end poverty
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  366. Being rich disconnects you from 99% of financial problems.
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  367. Corporations support immigration because they want access to labor forces who can't afford to argue and will work very hard for very low rates of pay. Conservatives oppose immigration because it "threatens" American culture. Remember this line: the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. How USA deals with immigration shows what we truly value, and we don't truly value helping immigrants.
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  368. it's actually one of the reasons income inequality has skyrocketed. I hate conservatives for this reason. Most billionaires have stock options/private equity, which enables them to amass a far greater fortune than if they were simply wage earners like the non executives of their company. Correlation does not equal causation: they are rich and skilled but they are not rich because they are skilled.
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  369.  @kupalisky3553  unfortunately socialism is opposed in USA.
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  370. It's amazing with record profits they have no money left over to raise wages.
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  371. Yes.
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  372. When she down voted the minimum wage increase I cried. She condemned millions to poverty.
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  373. At 30, after spending 10 years trying to earn a bachelor’s degree, I’m stuck in a cycle of poverty. I had to rely on welfare and Medicaid while taking care of my sick mom, who passed away after six years of illness. The stress caused me to flunk out of school and lose my financial aid, and despite the circumstances, my appeal was denied. I lost Section 8 housing, food stamps, and my safety net, leaving me homeless and starving and dependent on my dad to avoid death. Now, without a car or access to work-study jobs, I’m unable to continue my education. Even with an associate's degree, it would take over a decade to finish a bachelor’s while still being poor. I feel like I’ve lost both my mom and my 20s for nothing, and working at a supermarket again feels like admitting I’ve made no progress at all. But politicians ignore poor people like myself.
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  374. Amazing.
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  375. Rich people DO understand your pain. It's just that they ENJOY it! Rich people treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable. They fundamentally do not believe all workers deserve a living wage or benefits.
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  376. When the business succeeds, only the owners deserve rewards. When the business fails, only the workers get shafted.
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  377. Yep.
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  378.  @tobysmith2081  No but the CEO is aware of the company's wages and turnover rates and can fix both.
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  379.  @LiMaking  most open jobs pay crazy low wages. 9. 10. 12 an hour.
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  380.  @patrickbateman529  you need money to get an education, you need money for transportation, and so on. Money isn't thrown at everyone who wants it. LMFAO that's survivorship bias. So 2,000+ billionaires exist therefore getting out of poverty is easy? I guess the 76% of Americans living in poverty should be ignored like they don't matter. Cherry picking 2,000 people out of 7.5 billion.
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  381. ​ @BlackavarWD that's worse
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  382. Making $10 million a year is over $2280 an hour..even working 12 hours a day year round.
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  383. Because the core problem is politicians don't want poverty to end.
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  384. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  385. When it comes to helping the rich.
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  386. Plus I was kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits like health insurance. I was a cashier, I had no bargaining power on my own to force my employees to provide health insurance.
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  387. Yep.
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  388. Money isn't the root of the problem, it's ideology. Politicians don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
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  389. Yep
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  390. Republicans don't care about the cost. They like to see certain groups suffer. Cruelty is the point.
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  391.  @Doc110-fwg  because corporations consolidate money, enough to ensure the rich stay powerful.
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  392.  @phil3924  okay? That doesn't counteract what I said. People who work part-time(because childcare is expensive), are unwilling to work (for poverty wages), or are unable to work(the disabled) don't deserve to be poor.
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  393. I'm poor with no way up or out.
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  394. 43% of the population is poor. 50% of children are in poverty. Yet both parties ignore the poor. As does the news. Why? It's like ignoring women.
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  395. Your minimum wage point is an excellent one. I have a theory as to why conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage. It is not because it costs businesses "too much" but because it makes meritocracy a lie. If raising the minimum wage really would lift tens of millions of people out of poverty that is admitting that poverty is a systemic problem, that effort alone is not and cannot be enough to succeed/escape poverty, in essence that means effort doesn't matter. On the other hand telling people to simply work harder or accept the way society is shifting the blame to the individual.
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  396.  @Khaab00  you are correct. They could pay workers 30/hr and still be fine. I'd tax walmart 5x what their employees use in welfare.
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  397.  @maximemeis2867  most people don't take gender studies. Even if they did , that's more stratification if you only want to help people who desire STEM degrees. The point here is a more educated populace is an investment. More people educated and less in debt means less people willing to put up with worker exploitation and greater access to non-minimum wage jobs.
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  398. It's messed up how much Financial crime the rich can get away with.
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  399. In USA it's 43%.
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  400. it's called survivorship bias.
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  401. It needs to be written in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough for people to not be in poverty. Enough for them to live a healthy and humane life.
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  402. Why do politicians ignore the poor?
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  403. That makes me cry.
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  404. $7.25/hour
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  405. @jannieschluter9670  you admit that poverty is a policy choice, which is my main point here. Consumers demand low prices for goods and services, which requires workers to take horrible jobs at horrible wages. Poverty, or least the looming possibility of it, forces people to take terrible jobs.
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  406. The point is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs and be wage slaves, so rich people can continue living their easy lives.
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  407.  @briskettacos  I agree.
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  408. Republicans believe the owners are priceless whereas the workers are worthless.
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  409. It's disgusting how wages are so low.
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  410. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty,that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  411.  @redlake2943  Jordy gonna be crying alot more.
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  412.  @salvatoremaglione6398  doesn't mean they're spending it wisely, which they aren't. And it isn't their money anyway.
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  413. Pass a livable minimum wage law for the entire country.
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  414. I make $10/hr as a cashier in USA. If it wasn't for my family I'd be dead.
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  415.  @justinbeetle2594  Why can't american life be great for people besides the millionaires and billionaires? 200k salary. Paid sick/family leave/vacation. No 40+ hour work weeks. Medicare for all. Hell the stock market's $5 trillion bailout could've wiped out homelessness too.
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  416. That made me cry.
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  417.  @chuckwheeler6298  minimum wage jobs ARE real jobs.
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  418.  @StormcastMarine  when you make millions a year you're so divorced from the reality of most working people it's insane.
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  419.  Lisa Fenwick  how am I a volcel? My standards are 0.
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  420. I know. My state republican legislature over rode a tax bill on corporations that would've made community College tuition free.
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  421.  @AnnLinky  making excuses for corporate subsidies but demonizing subsidize for the poor.
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  422.  @htpkey  thank you. I managed to win a full tuition scholarship for community college upon me returning. I'll be getting a car soon. I'm still poor, but I'll be able to go to school full-time next semester on campus!
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  423. Yep.
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  424. If these pundits made minimum wage they'd change their tune real quick.
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  425. Work requirements exist to force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs.
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  426. ​ @DRKrust492 that's messed up.
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  427.  @gregsgrowth530  that doesn't mean you have to be poor.
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  428. I love it when rich people tell the poor they make too much.
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  429. Politicians have the power to eliminate poverty.
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  430. It happened before in the UK. The show was called "rich house. Poor house."
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  431. @davidhunternyc1  because this about just-world fallacy. In republicans eyes, rich people and business owners have "succeeded" in the "system that works," So when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. Where as poor people haven't "worked hard enough," so any government help they receive is a "handout."
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  432.  @hyuxion  is that a joke? Everyone in society deserves a voice.
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  433. ​@Aretta Layne just-world fallacy. Rich people and business owners have "succeeded" in the "system that works," so when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. Where as poor people have "failed," so any government help they receive is a "handout."
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  434.  @ebtetc531  they want people to be wage slaves because they have to "earn" a living.
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  435. Poor people like myself can't pay more in taxes or own homes. I make $10.50/hour at one job and $60/week as an intern.
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  436. lol.
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  437. I'm dying to win $10 million of scholarships, but he gets half a BILLION dollars of bailout money.
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  438.  @TheRogueEmpire  I was repeating Fox news mantra of their dumb news anchors. I agree with you.
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  439. LOL.
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  440. Yes. My comment on it blew up too
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  441. My secret to world peace Leeja: I can sum up my beliefs like this: Welfare: - people think poor people neither deserve nor appreciate receiving other People's money - poor people are restricted from welfare so they are desperate enough to work slave wage jobs - work requirements exist to force more people into minimum wage jobs UBI: - labor solidarity, not continued poverty is what is deemed as intolerable - the government could eradicate poverty with more robust income support programs, if that was a true priority Student Loans: - to keep poor and lower middle class people from advancing In society. To keep a caste system in place - vouchers do the same thing but for k-12 schools Overall: - I want the poor and rich to be treated the same - I want people to embrace and support the voices of the poor, disabled, immigrants, etc like we do women. - I want every marginalized group to be a sizable and influential part of society, like women are.
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  442. I'm an incel. My standards for women are 0 and yet at 27 years old I've never kissed. Dated. Or held hands on top of being a virgin. I have no young woman's number or female friends either.
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  443.  @jcapone7415  oh... I got it...
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  444. No. It's the MAGNITUDE of the fines. I would tax corporations 2x-5x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits.
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  445. Yes
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  446. Yep.
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  447. It's too bad corporations do NOT want to do this.
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  448.  @hobomike6935  I know. I'm a cashier and it sucks. It's $25 one way.
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  449.  @filonin2  Only 28% is basically free considering millions still have no health insurance.
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  450. Yes
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  451. Well if the only time you're happy is when rich people get bailed out or subsidized but angry when people demand a living wage or no debt I'd drop off the map too. But corporate media is too rich to care.
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  452. "We can't be fighting like this there's white people here."
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  453. I'm a cashier at a supermarket. My $17/hr wage proposal was rejected. I was paid $10/hr instead. My "raise" was $0.50. So I made $10.50/hr.
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  454. You can't describe sex to someone who has never had it.
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  455. ​ @nathanjones6638 I'd tax corporations 2x-5x the amount of money their employees use in welfare benefits.
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  456. I wouldn't want her to go to jail either. I'd Forcefully confiscate all of her wealth and force her to work for minimum wage for the rest of her life.
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  457. @Guy Whose opinions will offend you myth of meritocracy...
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  458.  @sergiogarcia5593  it's used to justify poverty.
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  459.  @tracy419  yes it could! The poor, disabled, immigrants, etc could have a voice in government!
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  460. @leobigelow7021  if restructuring the economy is the price we must pay, then we must pay it. No "gradual or small scale" change. Imagine passing the 19th amendment but only allowing it for one city in the country.
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  461.  @anna9072  faith based worldview
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  462.  @itsjustavi  I make 15 an hour as an intern and that's not possible now.
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  463. Politicians have an axiom: rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor. Anything which changes this is, by definition, unfair. Thus, helping the poor and/or hindering the rich is wrong.
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  464. Republicans do think about others....as long as it fits within their just-world fallacy.
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  465.  @chrish564  I agree. Unfortunately I find it sad we can subsidize the rich endlessly but not the average Joe or small business(higher wages or less employee turn over).
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  466. ​ @evelyndill5688 because of just-world fallacy
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  467.  @Khaab00  considering median home prices are 200k-500k now, I would say even $40/ hr isn't enough.
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  468. The irony is lost on politicians.
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  469.  @NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot  rich people and conservatives think poor people are inferior and minimum wage workers deserve poverty. They say ",kids job" to demean hard working poor people.
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  470. I had a nerdgasm
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  471. Yep.
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  472. WTF?
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  473. You'd have to raise median income to $459,000/yr for people to afford housing now....and even then they'd still take on mortgages.
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  474.  @jannieschluter9670  because they have no skills. I'm a cashier because I can't afford a community college education.
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  475. These Republicans hate the poor.
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  476. They hate poor people
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  477. Because helping the poor as much as the rich would mean nobody would be trapped by welfare or debt. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  478. @Roxy Cauldwell  I agree with you. Thank you. I actually have to quit being a cashier because I can't afford a car at the crummy wages they offer. Their college tuition reimbursement is a mere $2,500/year. That essentially means I'd have to work minimum wage for 4 years to pay for one year of school. And yet they wonder why no one applies for it.
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  479.  @jasonjames4254  it was a remark on how little I make. My priorities are car, apartment, and tuition. None of which I can afford.
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  480. The point is control, not economic growth
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  481.  @ralphemerson497  lol if you think anyone in their right mind WANTS to struggle to get by. Want a house? Money. Want a car? Money. Want healthcare? Money. Almost everything is a commodity. Employees don't set wages, cost of living or employer's practices.
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  482. At 30, after spending 10 years trying to earn a bachelor’s degree, I’m stuck in a cycle of poverty. I had to rely on welfare and Medicaid while taking care of my sick mom, who passed away after six years of illness. The stress caused me to flunk out of school and lose my financial aid, and despite the circumstances, my appeal was denied. I lost Section 8 housing, food stamps, and my safety net, leaving me homeless and starving and dependent on my dad to avoid death. Now, without a car or access to work-study jobs, I’m unable to continue my education. Even with an associate's degree, it would take over a decade to finish a bachelor’s while still being poor. I feel like I’ve lost both my mom and my 20s for nothing, and working at a supermarket again feels like admitting I’ve made no progress at all. But politicians ignore poor people like myself.
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  483. Where as rich people do
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  484.  @lukeolson5177  hatred blinds people to logic.
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  485. 100k adjusted for inflation is $2.1 million. So your $27k/yr salary adjusted for inflation is about $700,000/yr.
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  486.  @danielfay8963  that's moving the goal post. The government rushes in to save big businesses but not ordinary Americans. It doesn't matter if a profit is made or not.
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  487. Because it admits poverty is a policy choice, and it's one our country chooses time and time again.
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  488.  @WatermelOns53  that's where we disagree mate, workers deserve a fair share of profits regardless of skill.
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  489. Our government allows a 7.25 minimum wage
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  490.  @xtinkerbellax3  yes because it's easier to blame the individual than the system.
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  491. I'm on medicaid while in school. Most doctors don't take it. The appointments / wait times are way too long, And I have to be far below the poverty line to keep it, so I'm not actually incentivized to work and escape poverty while in school unless I risk losing health care. I had to wait over 3 months to have a vision exam, now I can't get eyeglasses, and I have to wait 3 more months to get simple blood work done. If the rich had my shitty healthcare we'd have Medicare for all.
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  492.  @Maxry-v2y  that's messed up
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  493.  @BrandoB2557  correct. Have an arbitrarily named crime frees you from conviction. When Kristen Sinema down voted a $15/hr minimum wage she condemned me and millions others to poverty. But she can make $500,000 in seconds.
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  494. I can't rely on public transportation because buses take too long to travel through out the city
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  495. Because it isn't about business affordability, it's about power and control. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not poverty, that corporations see as the risk they refuse to accept.
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  496. The moment he was paid $45 million a year as an anchor, he lost that connection.
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  497. Evil
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  498. Correct.
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  499. He makes millions to be a lying coward.
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  500. I would have a house and three cars making that kind of money
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  501. Yep
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  502.  @haleybrown2836  ah yes. Not having pets= poverty problem solved then.
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  503. Since when can you buy a $400k house on $7.25/hr?
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  504. I want congress to get their salary cut by their approval rating.
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  505. Correct.
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  506. It's about priorities. People being kept poor is the top priority of politicians
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  507. ​​ @wrv341 politicians don't want to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  508. It's great if you're a millionaire or Billionaire. Welcome to the fallacy of relative privation
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  509. Same.
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  510. That's the goal
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  511. That's messed up.
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  512. ​ @cyclopsvision6370 poverty says otherwise mate
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  513. If Trump adds work requirements to Medicaid, i sill have to drop out of higher education, since I've already lost housing and food assistance due to this. I'm going to school and need health insurance that I can't pay for because most entry-level jobs pay minimum wage. For example, federal work-study pays $12/hour
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  514.  @salemdesigns65  not everyone can escape low wage jobs.
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  515.  @johnm.515  You'd need to make well over $30/hr to even come close to affording housing now.
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  516. 285 billion could end homelessness, and provide free college...
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  517.  @Tustin2121  part of it is religion/Calvinism, so that's a tall order.
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  518.  @toronaldaris  yep. Poor people need less money to work harder. Where as the rich need more.
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  519.  @richardernst8025  how the hell isn't there massive homelessness??
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  520.  xRiddleMeThisYouTube  But what would this mean in practice? Eliminating welfare for the poor? Would there still be hospitals and doctors that gave the poor free care, as there were before Medicaid was established? Or would doctors simply refuse to treat sick people who are poor? Hardly anyone favors the latter solution. But if the poor could still get medical care, why should changing the way we finance it deter poor women from having children? Eliminating food stamps poses similar problems. If we replaced food stamps with soup kitchens and food pantries, we would probably not deter many poor people from having babies. If eliminating food stamps meant that a lot of poor children went hungry, the electorate would vote in liberals who promised to bring food stamps back again.
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  521. Yep Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  522. The government believes poor and disabled people are burdens. It's sickening.
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  523.  @bjmccann1  people are too blinded by their hatred for those they deem unworthy to realize that God would never accept their hatred in heaven.
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  524. $18 is a shit wage.
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  525. It's about priorities.
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  526. It's by design
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  527. the real poltical problem with a living wage or unions aren't the costs, but the benefits: a policy like this would give workers the power to reject dead-end job offers.
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  528. I worked as a cashier for 7 years. After all that time I spent working, I came out making $0.50 above starting pay. I left making $10.50/hr. You make the same wage no matter how hard I work or how understaffed it is
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  529. Lack of compassion
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  530.  @Anon54387  you are opposed to the inconveniences which would accompany poverty's elimination.
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  531. Correct.
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  532. Thank you for all your contributions to physics!
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  533.  @TheRealWinser  inflation is an acceptable risk.
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  534. @V Knight  There is no such thing as a free market because: one all businesses do not operate independently of the government. 2. employees and employers do not want the same thing. 3. workers don't make what they're worth they make what they negotiate. There is a power imbalance. 4. for how about we start everyone at a living wage. Everyone deserves a living wage like women deserve voting.
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  535. @timschultz1928  when I was a cashier, I made $10.50/hr. I didn't qualify for welfare, despite being poor.
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  536. Bribery IS illegal. Lobbying is not.
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  537.  @lakoncers13  lol what? I'm saying everyone has a voice. And who are you to judge my life circumstances?
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  538.  @jeremyjackson7429  I see. People let emotions override logic and reason.
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  539. How is there not 80% homelessness in Canada?
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  540. I just googled this. It's depressing america had good qualities.
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  541.  @filonin2  I know it isn't free free but his healthcare is so cheap compared to what most Americans get it's insulting.
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  542. The reason you're treated this way is 2 fold. 1. Ideology: Many people assign value to whether or not you can work. if you aren't willing or capable of working, then you have no value. This idea is disgusting. 2. Economics- poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  543. They don't truly find crime unacceptable
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  544.  @rightsdontcomewithpermits7073  poor people aren't leaches, corporations are.
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  545.  @noclue4108  thank you. First step I gotta stop identifying as incel. Second step is to take responsibility for my life.
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  546. Meritocracy is a bigger religion than Christianity in this country.
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  547.  @CybershamanX  I wish these politicians got a life sentence in prison for every dollar of campaign contributions they have accepted.
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  548. @Turkey_Hill  I hate that I can't see replies. Welfare is restricted like I said, to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. If all jobs provided livable wages/skills welfare would not be in such huge demand. They don't. That isn't on workers. That is on society at large for wanting certain jobs to be filled with poverty, not without it. Besides, Welfare for the rich never has had draconian sanctions.
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  549.  @pattygioffre2366  thank you
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  550. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office.
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  551. Good old Calvinism is alive and well.
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  552. @leobigelow7021  poverty is having a shortage of resources relative to needs. All you have to do is give people enough resources so they're not poor. Simple. Just not cheap. $3 trillion? Would you pay that to ensure women could vote, or we retained freedom of speech? If you are more worried about the price to pay from helping the poor vs not helping them, then you don't find poverty unacceptable.
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  553. Exactly.
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  554. What's worse is politicians know this, they just don't care. The minimum wage would be $40 if they had to live on it.
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  555. i loved this too. It should be on a t-shirt.
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  556. No billionaire would last 3 days Making 7.25
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  557. People aren't paid based on how hard they work, they're paid based on how hard they are to replace. Cashiers make $10.50 an hour in my city but neurosurgeons make $900,000 a year.
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  558. Because you can't buy intimacy or affection
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  559.  @JimClark2005  It's called just-world fallacy. In his eyes if you just work hard enough everything will always work out fine. And the reason he believes that is because if he were to admit that hard work does not equal success, he would be admitting individual effort can only take you so far. In essence success would be like a lottery, it would be like cheating.
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  560. Poor people's campaign estimates the poverty rate at 43%. That's 140 million people. 50% child poverty.
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  561. Then America has failed. I'm a cashier. I make $10.50 an hour. I'm kept part-time, so I'm ineligible for benefits. I can't build up savings. Their college tuition program is nowhere near enough to pay for college. The job offers no career advancement. I'm also ineligible for welfare since I'm past the age of 25 and have no kids or disabilities.
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  562.  @lemonlimesnout  60 is what the minimum wage should be based on inflation
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  563. Yes
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  564. That's all by design
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  565. ​@sampeeps3371 what?
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  566. Giving three trillion to the rich encourages innovation, giving three trillion to the poor makes them lazy. - Republican logic
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  567. Won't happen when rich people are in power. Poor people like myself have no power.
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  568. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  569. ​@c.nova8818 not everyone can get a trade. Not everyone can go to college.
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  570.  @spongeintheshoe  because he believes cashiers deserve poverty.
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  571. Another thing which disgusts me is how rich people and employers feel they have the right / are moral arbiters of how the lower and middle classes deserve to live. Imagine me, as a man, deciding that I am the moral arbiter, that I have the right, to decide how women should live. How much money they should make. how they should live their life. that they should have no opinion of their own and be happy I'm blessing them with my privilege.
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  572. I make $10.50/hour as a cashier and $60/week as an intern.
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  573.  @AdmiralBison  $1 trillion could end homelessness...in the whole country.
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  574. @Roxy Cauldwell  I hope I don't come off as greedy, but I just want to escape poverty.
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  575. ​ @rassabossa4554 that would even allow poor people to run for office!
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  576. Forcing them into minimum wage jobs
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  577. There are 3 religions in this country 1. Meritocracy 2. Capitalism 3. Christianity
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  578. Right. Corporate owners get 75% of profits on average. Labor at 20% is considered "too high."
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  579.  @patrickbateman529  if the only job you can get is minimum wage, then how do you invest? How do you start a business? How do you pay for college? What if you have kids? Pay for 24/7 nanny while you create a business? Get real. Not everyone is born into wealth.
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  580.  @ybrix101  whenever billionaires or business owners receive any form of financial assistance or bailouts, conservatives spin it as a godsend, but poor people demanding the same is evil.
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  581. Blame Americans who think disabled people are a burden that the government shouldn't take care of.
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  582. I understand your pain. If my comments don't get deleted, please read the whole thing. I know of a disabled woman who made $400 in one month and ended up losing some assistance. She ended up making $100 LESS that month. In other words, her working full time served no purpose, since she lost more money than what she could earn. My brother is disabled and can't have more than $2,000/month in wealth/assets This forces him to basically never work at all, because working a minimum wage job wouldn't pay enough to meet even this pathetic threshold. And disabled people often need MORE healthcare services than healthy people
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  583.  @dcg590  Loans can be forgiven.
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  584. Yes
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  585. The problem is a ubi gives too much bargaining power to poor people.
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  586. Won't happen because politicians make the very laws that they know Won't harm them. Otherwise, we would have an $80/hr minimum wage and no gun control.
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  587. Because politicians want people to be divided since there are too many poor people to control through coercion alone.
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  588. Hahaha
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  589. ​ @somebody700 he knows this but doesn't care
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  590. That's messed up
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  591. Rich people have inherited trillions of dollars but poor people haven't received a living wage.
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  592. Money.
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  593. Yep
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  594. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier. I was kept part time to avoid being eligible for benefits. I received no pathway for promotion. No way to pay for college
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  595.  @za-ir5ni  millionaires and billionaires do not take out most student loans. Try again.
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  596. Rich people believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  597. Wow
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  598. My mom is Dead because USA doesn't have universal health insurance.
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  599. My mom died because she didn't have adequate healthcare, and juggling school, work and caretaking was too much. I lost pell grants despite her death. I was kicked out of her section 8 housing, leaving me homeless if not for my dad helping me. I have lost food stamps because I don't work, and most doctors don't take medicaid and its limits force me to not make more $20k a year. I'm poor and sit at home, can't go to community college, and am shackled with watching my disabled brother. So I'm poor and unskilled at 30 years old, have nobody, and am on the verge of giving up on school and life. I hate this country.
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  600. But corporations want cheap labor and poverty.
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  601. Politicians and rich people believe that you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  602.  @nicolasdacey  thank you for your condolences. I imagine or wish that USA had universal healthcare.
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  603. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  604. He wants minimum wage workers in poverty
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  605. As long as she isn't poor or drowned by debt, she can keep ruining people's lives.
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  606.  @CortexNewsService  you're a good human being.
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  607. Why are there any restrictions on the welfare at all? Are they saying being poor simply isn't bad enough?
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  608. CEO's and most rich people live off the growth of their assets in the form of performance bonuses and dividends. they are not hourly wage earners, that's a structural and policy decision.
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  609. Corporations run the government
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  610. I'm trying to escape poverty so I can get through school and get a degree. My mom died. Wake tech still didn't want to help me.
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  611. Greed knows no bounds.
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  612.  @vanessaodey1202  healthcare is a social responsibility, not individual one.
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  613.  @Godzillamonstrosity  There's a power differential in favor of the employer.
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  614. If only all politicians were poverty abolitionists....
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  615. @WarriorKalia  what's worse is many Americans blame poor people for low pay.
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  616. Survivorship bias.
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  617.  @1nitrus  hello genius. How do you start a business with no money from slave wages, no free time from being worked into the ground, no skills since a college degree is unaffordable for most people and even with one no guarantee of decent wages, AND unaffordable healthcare?
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  618.  @seircj  because nobody should work for slave wages.
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  619. While each store makes millions yearly.
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  620. We've spent enough on the military to end poverty
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  621. Exactly. I'm waiting for the day Fox news interviews me, a cashier, on minimum wage.
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  622.  @e13kid  I know I'm ranting but I feel like the rich people are the real parasites in society. Very few if any people can actually earn millions or billions of dollars. they can only do it by stealing it off of the backs of other people and then they project onto the poor they stole the money from that they're the parasites.
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  623. ​ @DarthFerder exactly. Can't have disabled people be middle class.
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  624. Exactly. Either corporations need to stop demanding degrees, pay higher wages to recoup the costs for obtaining the degrees, or pay higher taxes.
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  625.  @kanders7391  I cry for what has happened to this country. The greatest middle class in the world tens of millions in poverty.
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  626. Trillions in upward wealth transfer.... And paying $15/hr is "too expensive."
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  627. His welfare to work program is why I lost my food stamps despite me having $0 income. I can't work 30 hours a week when I'm in college full-time.
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  628. It's only an entitlement when poor people receive help.
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  629. Rich people don't support it
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  630.  @Jose-Luis.Garnica-Sanchez  because the point is to make it seem like business owners are never wrong
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  631.  @mike_w-tw6jd  exactly
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  632. I'm in NC and am a community college student. I was forced onto medicaid after NC passed an expansion. I was paying $50/month for blue Cross Blue shield, but It went up to $436 because I was automatically enrolled in Medicaid. I lost all of my old doctors, have been catching hell finding new ones. I'm thankful there is a doctor that allows me to use Medicaid because my two medicines are $739 a month. I can't afford that working minimum wage or an internship. My mom died because Medicaid was too restricted and private insurance companies refused to care for her.
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  633. Exactly
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  634. 1. Raise minimum wage for federal contract workers to $45/hour 2. Revote patents for all pharmaceutical companies, bankrupting them until they provide cheap medicine 3. Erase all student loan debt 4. Make all colleges and trade schools free
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  635. ​ @Nick-ih9jw that's messed up
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  636. Because the government wants the rich to have government benefits, not the poor. Without poverty, nobody would be reliant on welfare or debt, no one could be controlled by corporations.
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  637. The problem with that is republicans DON'T believe poor children deserve happy childhoods.
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  638. Republicans only support welfare for the rich.
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  639.  @louislove299  they won't listen, because if they admit I am right, then they admit poverty is a policy choice.
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  640. Yep.
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  641. Yes.
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  642. I'm a very poor, self supporting community college student.
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  643.  @helene420  I call it survivorship bias.
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  644. Because rich people need to feel superior to others. Rich people hate us many more times than we hate them.
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  645. The federal reserve uses a fiat currency. This fiat currency is based on monetary expansion thus appreciating assets(stocks and bonds) while depreciating income (wages). This ensures that people are trapped on welfare or in debt forever. College university used to be $900 a year, now a trade school degree alone is $18,000. Universities are $18k/yr.
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  646.  @ThatFoxGirl  yes. This country is a low wage nation.
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  647. Always.
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  648. it's funny the rich always criticize the poor and say they have it easy. If it's so easy being poor then the rich should give up all of their income and assets and work for minimum wage and not rely on any government programs.
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  649. Calvinism is alive and well my friend. You give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  650. When I went to higher education I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country.
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  651.  @sun1one1  sounds like the myth of meritocracy to me. It's messed up.
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  652.  @finalcam1740  yep. You just need motors and a good power source!
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  653. They make the laws...
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  654. Sean hannity makes $45 million a year.
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  655. But when you make $10 million a year those prices are tiny
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  656. $1,300 when he graduated in 1987. $41,000 today.
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  657.  @whitewolfdepauw  what if service workers make six figures? Would that bother you?
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  658. That's messed up.
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  659. Police protect the rich and punish the poor.
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  660. Politicians and the rich believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  661. That's correct.
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  662. Because they assign value to people based on how hard they work. The idea that if you don't work, you have no value, is disgusting.
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  663. ​​ @Ariayilzpt  I live with my dad at 29 while going to community college. The apartment complex DOWN THE STREET is $2,100/MONTH for one bedroom. We're in the cheapest part of the city.
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  664.  @chrishakala528  oh. He's a troll. Got it.
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  665. @witherschat  Not to mention, all of the welfare programs we have are complicated, instead of being direct cash assistance.
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  666.  @JavierGarcia-pk7gg  yeah. But receiving government money is bad if you're poor and good if you're rich. It's classic conservative ideology.
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  667. Yes
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  668. It's called being a trust fund baby.
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  669. Lol jd is both jimmy dore and john deere.
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  670. That would require them admitting they are the problem themselves, and that would require putting in work.
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  671. Which is the real reason conservatives oppose welfare, because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  672. You don't see what I see. When money is spent to help the poor it is called an "entitlement" but when money is spent to help the rich and powerful it is called an "investment." Politicians and the rich believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing. Adding it all up it turns out the rich receives far more money than the poor and people still shit on the poor for the money that they make even though it's far less than the rich and they're still poor even with the money they get.
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  673.  @ToonCrate  it's almost like nobody has financial freedom besides the rich.
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  674.  @justinbeetle2594  so basically union busting in another form?
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  675. That and low wage work.
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  676.  @SgtJoeSmith  What are you talking about? What part-time job pays $60/hr? Trade jobs pay that much, but many people can't do that.
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  677.  @SgtJoeSmith  1. About 86% of people who don't work are at least one of the following: children, the elderly, disabled, or students-people who either can't or shouldn't be working. Are you saying they deserve poverty? 2. Many people have mental illnesses and injuries and expensive child care to deal with too, do these people deserve poverty as well? 3. Poor people who receive welfare adds up. If you make $9/hr, not enough to afford kids or healthcare or food, but receive welfare to make up the difference, this costs more than $50k. Even the medicaid alone does. You can't say minimum wage workers don't deserve 50k, but also are fine with the welfare provided to them costing more than 50k. That doesn't make any sense. 4. Even if everyone wanted to work full-time, or at all, there are not enough high paying jobs for everyone. If everyone who worked at Starbucks quit, who would be left to work there? If nobody worked at hotels, who works there then?
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  678. 285 billion could end homelessness....
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  679. @ballooneyjr4294  exactly.
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  680. It's called survivorship bias.
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  681. It's also why welfare isn't robust: because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  682. Wages have went down, cost of living have went up, so purchasing power has been destroyed.
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  683. It needs to be written down in the constitution, that one job must pay enough to people for them to not be in poverty. Enough for them to live a healthy and humane life.
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  684. Chris rock
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  685. Exactly.
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  686.  @chuckwheeler6298  okay so then maybe you should mad at employers for paying people poverty wages? It's simple math. If you don't want people to have the demand or supply for government grants over salary, then demand the salary pays more than the grant.
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  687. I lost food stamps and medicaid
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  688. That's it?
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  689. Correct. There are 3 religions in USA in order of importance: 1. Meritocracy 2. Capitalism 3. Christianity
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  690. Even increasing wages by 300% would still not allow people to buy homes outright now. So that's even worse. With inflation the average wage should be $80,000 a year not $30,000.
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  691. Nope. I'm in NC And republicans expanded Medicaid after my mom's death, then I also lost government assistance for food and housing leaving me dead if it wasn't for my dad's help. I also lost Pell grants because I was stressed out from her death.
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  692.  @fluxrider7027  it's by design.
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  693.  @missk1697  it isn't alot... That was my point.
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  694. Because it helps the rich
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  695. Yep. Poor people like myself are trapped
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  696. Because they don't believe all sources of suffering are wrong. Rape is unacceptable, and poverty isn't. Not to politicians.
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  697. The government is rich people Poor people are ignored.
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  698.  @jessh4016  oh okay, my bad.
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  699.  @Breena1214  yep
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  700. @markzuckergecko621  I made less than $9/hr one point.
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  701.  @cmdraftbrn  I said corporations want poverty to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  702. I cry reading that
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  703.  @user-vx9jy7jl2l  when it helps poor people, then yes. - fox news mantra
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  704. I swear these people only complain about the cost of things when the government wants to spend money on poor people.
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  705.  @eliw5864  if income was spread evenly every worker would make $757,000....
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  706. I'm pursuing community college, I can't afford tuition, and even if I could, I can't afford living expenses, which is what these types of schools don't cover, forcing me onto welfare. I will have to give up pursuing a Physics Degree.
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  707. I'm on medicaid. I can get my medicine, but most doctors refuse to accept Medicaid. And wait times are way too long. I had to wait three months to get a simple vision exam. I have to wait three MONTHS between appointments for my PCP.
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  708. They got paid nothing. And he was deported
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  709. My mom died because she didn't have adequate healthcare, and juggling school, work and caretaking was too much. I lost pell grants despite her death. I was kicked out of her section 8 housing, leaving me homeless if not for my dad helping me. I have lost food stamps because I don't work, and most doctors don't take medicaid and its limits force me to not make more $20k a year. I'm poor and sit at home, can't go to community college, and am shackled with watching my disabled brother. So I'm poor and unskilled at 30 years old, have nobody, and am on the verge of giving up on school and life. I hate this country.
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  710. You're right.
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  711. It's called Calvinism.
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  712. It's fucked up the rich steal far more money than poor criminals but receive far less penalties.
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  713.  @asmasm9736  true.
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  714.  @jimziemer474  says who? Where in the laws of physics does it say that? And college is too expensive for most people. And even with a degree you aren't guaranteed decent salary.
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  715. Exactly
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  716.  @Doc110-fwg  if that right is dissolved the rich become vulnerable
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  717.  @MISSYGful  yep
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  718.  @videosbydrake  yes.
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  719.  @AcidBath25  yep
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  720.  @itsjustavi  using a cab is so expensive that it cost $80 for me to travel to and from my internship, but I only make $60 a week.
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  721. Because Americans don't view healthcare as a right
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  722.  @elizabethhosaka1069  the official poverty level is kept artificially low for several reasons, one being Republicans don't want to lose federal funding for welfare programs. Two, because the official poverty rate hasn't been majorly adjusted since the 1960s. In my state, the "official" poverty level is only $20k for a single person, it'd be $15k if it wasn't for Medicaid expansion. Look up the poor people's campaign that uses the unofficial but more accurate Supplemental Poverty Measure that shows 140 million people are poor or low-income.
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  723. Exactly
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  724. Poor people can't afford to run for office, mate. Despite us making up nearly half the country.
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  725. When It's illegal for Congress to receive $4 billion a year in lobbying money from corporate interests.
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  726. Joe biden wouldn't drop out
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  727.  @jingbot1071  no. I'm saying corporations want cheap labor, and thus they want poverty to persist because of this terrible desire.
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  728. Employers are just evil.
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  729. This reveals something terrible and more constant about American politics. Our leaders are presented with a very simple choice. You can have worker solidarity exist or you can have poverty exist but you cannot have both. The defining moments of American politics are not about what we are willing to do. They are about where we draw the line. The truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to take. The consequences we do not like to tolerate. The prices we are unwilling to pay. It is worker solidarity, not poverty, that our political and corporate leaders treat as the risk they refuse to allow.
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  730. Yes
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  731. Wouldn't we all?
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  732. Yep
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  733. That and skyrocketing property taxes on existing properties used by the wealthy as tax havens.
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  734.  @sir-reynauld-the-kleptomaniac  yes. It's only acknowledging good or optimal outcomes(ignoring all bad ones).
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  735.  @jackwolowacz9382  Fox News wouldn't care to hear about how I live(I'm poor) but if I became a millionaire CEO suddenly I can walk on water.
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  736.  @eljoel89  I agree!
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  737. Christians don't see it that way
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  738. Exactly.
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  739.  @PaulADAigle  I'll go on a rant for you. When I went to higher education I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country.
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  740. She won popular vote.
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  741.  @stevenpadilla4294  yes, start your own business....with no money from slave wages, no free time because you're being worked into the ground, and no skills because a college degree is unaffordable for most people, and even with one no guarantee of decent wages, AND unaffordable healthcare.
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  742. Politicians are still heartless
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  743.  @tommantek3632  we definitely have more poverty as a result of home prices alone. When the war on poverty started, 15% of Americans lived in poverty. Now it's 43%.
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  744.  @lindaevans3815  it's almost like corporations want poverty and destitution
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  745. It's bigger than that. They're okay with the rich receiving help because they " deserve" it where as the poor don't.
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  746. Won't*
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  747. He felt entitled to sex.
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  748. I'm on Medicaid because I make $10.50/hr
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  749. yes. I read that rich people cannot spend enough money to create a dent in the large economy of the US. I am baffled by how rich people have received $2 trillion in tax cuts, on top of trillions in subsidies, but yet unemployment, inflation, and poverty are as rampant as ever. @Tyiion 
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  750.  @uncomfortabletruth5915  you're right. They want wage slaves to serve them.
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  751. The point of cutting welfare is simple- to force poor people into wage slavery.
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  752.  @libertybell5796  survive...transportation...food..housing.
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  753. Yes
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  754. Because many capitalists believe in the myth of Equivalent Exchange. They believe that you receive what you provide, you get out what you put in. If you put in a lot of effort you deserve a large Financial reward. If you are lazy or uneducated however, you deserve to receive no money in return. A minimum-wage worker is "lazy and uneducated," and is thus worthless and a failure. A doctor puts alot of effort into working, so them making millions per year is fine.
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  755. Yep
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  756. They judge people by skills, thus doctors are important but cashiers are worthless according to people like Jesse. In reality, rich people want minimum wage jobs to exist, and that requires poverty to persist so poor people accept slave wages.
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  757.  @roxycauldwell544  thank you. If I had power like these politicians, I'd have a full ride scholarship and be in more college classes. The truth of the matter is I believe our political and business leaders want many people like myself to be trapped in these low wage jobs. They treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as unacceptable.
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  758.  @crogers4912  I did say profits in my comment, not sales.
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  759. Yep
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  760. Correct. Congress is ruled by greed. They also receive $3.5 billion a year in lobbying money.
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  761. While the minimum wage is STILL $7.25/hour, and the average worker makes $17/hour. I make $10.50/hour as a cashier and $900/semester as an intern. I use welfare to get by.
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  762. Poor people don't work hard enough to deserve government assistance
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  763.  Zoomer Stasi  when will USA get a news media company speaking the truth?
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  764.  @jonpark6650  I'm ranting here but if I were a journalist I'd talk about all the poverty in America. Just to start. The minimum wage isn't high enough to support yourself, part-time workers are denied benefits, medicaid expansion was denied, leaving millions of childless adults without healthcare, there isn't enough scholarship money to send all poor people to college, and even there was, less than 1% of students get a full-ride. It's stacked against the poor and towards the rich
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  765. These guys don't get arrested for war crimes.
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  766. @Bobbydalejones2001  remember that. Use this as a litmus test: The risks we refuse to accept. The prices we are unwilling to pay. The consequences we do not like to tolerate. I realized that politicians fundamentally don't find poverty unacceptable. Or student loan debt.
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  767. ​ @oatmeal710 exactly
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  768. I'm going to community college at 29 and live with my dad on welfare. I lost my food stamps due to the work requirements. I'm on Medicaid because my medication is $2,000 a month, working a minimum wage job couldn't cover that.
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  769. @BloodMalice  there isn't lack of work. But living wages.
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  770.  @secularhumanistforever  I work as a cashier part-time, I go to community College, and I participate in a mathematics-physics internship program at said college.
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  771. ​ @johnathoncastro nobody should have to work multiple jobs in order to survive.
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  772.  @johnathoncastro  1. So this is a moral issue to you: you believe poor people don't deserve a living wage. 2. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. 3. Not everyone can increase their skills, this is a classic example of just world fallacy. Not everyone can go to college. Not everyone can be a trade worker or engineer. Not everyone who has skills can find gainful employment. People suffer from injury, mental illness, and other factors beyond their control. People do not choose to experience poverty and destitution nor should they have to in order to reinforce this economic hierarchy.
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  773.  @TheyRiseBand  if wages were based on the percentage of GDP minimum wage would be $61/hr.
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  774. I didn't get my debt forgiven.
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  775.  @anthonydelfino6171  you're right. It is worse now. I remember now because my mom passed away when I was 28. She lived in section 8 housing, and me, sister and brother lived with her. So when my mom passed, we tried to stay in that apartment. We were all poor, but my sister didn't have a job, I had a minimum wage job, and my brother could not have a job(disability), so section 8 housing kicked us out. And working minimum wage is not enough to afford apartments or houses at market rates.
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  776.  @homerthompson416  I want you to read this essay called "Herbert gans functions of poverty." It explains why poverty persists in USA. tldr poverty persists to ensure workers are desperate enough to work for poverty wages and be trapped in debt. Any mechanism that makes workers less desperate is politically opposed for this exact reason: living wages, welfare, unions, universal basic income, universal healthcare, immigrants(that can't be threatened with deportation or jail), free college.
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  777. What does he mean by that?
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  778. Poor people have no power
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  779. Exactly
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  780. Exactly. The poor have no political voice anymore.
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  781.  @AnnetteMurphyger  i find it terrible. The rich donate and pay taxes but it's so little their quality of life isn't affected at all, but all the poor who make sacrifices due to lack of money receive no recognition.
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  782. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is an armed populace, not continued crime, that politicians deem intolerable.
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  783. @VulariBatman  vote for someone who isn't corrupted by money or power.
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  784.  @mak88119  entry-level jobs are dead end and give you no skills Not everyone can have a trade job.
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  785.  @Maxry-v2y  exactly.
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  786. ​@Eric-yt7rt because he's an other wallet warrior. His real reason why he opposes a living wage is because his ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn
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  787. Exactly.
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  788. To force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs
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  789. Because corporations don't want workers having freedom. Rising worker power, not continued poverty, is what our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  790. Yep
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  791. That's evil
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  792.  @mohammadwaled409  140 million people disagree with you.
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  793.  @irtwiaos  THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR.
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  794.  @gkys111  yep
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  795.  @gayyoung4383  that's still free in many people's eyes.
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  796.  @SgtJoeSmith  1. Not every child has two parents, and having two parents doesn't mean the parents aren't poor. Colleges cost money, even with student loans, and not everyone qualifies for loans in the first place. Not everyone has rich parents to support them. Part-time jobs hardly pay enough to support one person, much less a family. Many elderly people do not have savings...due to inflation. And Social security doesn't pay enough to escape poverty. Disability doesn't enough to escape poverty either, and not all disabled people receive financial assistance anyway. 2. Not everyone has insurance or has comprehensive and affordable insurance. Lack of healthcare is another factor contributing to poverty. 3. of the roughly 330 million people in USA, 140 million are in poverty. That is close to half the country. There are far more poor people than rich people. 4. Why is having kids bad for poor people? They're poor not because they have kids, but because the government enacts policies to keep them in poverty.
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  797. That's evil.
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  798. ​@Justowner politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  799. So these politicians tell minimum wage workers to get better jobs but now that they get better jobs the politicians are complaining that no one wants to work? So what politicians are really saying is they wanted people trapped in these poverty wage jobs all along and they're "terrible" workers for going elsewhere.
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  800. A policy choice.
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  801. Why do comments get deleted? I'm not a bot
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  802.  @wisdomcoffee  you're right mate. Deep down, I know dating is not the end all be all to life. I'm so much happier about my life now( I used to be a NEET). I'm not an astrophysicist and I sure have a very long way to go but I'm driven.
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  803. I'm an incel virgin at 29 years old. The reason I don't use a hooker is because you can't buy intimacy. A hooker doesn't offer genuine affection. I want a woman to be attracted to me, not sleep with me because of money.
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  804. There are way more poor people than rich people
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  805. Same.
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  806. LOL.
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  807. ​ @riggsmarkham922 to force poor people to do terrible jobs
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  808. ​ @mn0g0nm because rich people donate to politicians and run for office, poor people do not.
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  809.  @NotAHomelessGamer  that makes me cry as well. College is not only not free here but it's completely unaffordable for someone making minimum wage. $750 a semester? My Community College costs $5,000 a semester.
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  810.  @Antonio-69-420  I have a full tuition scholarship but I'm still in poverty struggling with community college because I can't afford living expenses working part-time. As a cashier I made $10.50/hour. As an intern, I made $900/semester. Both are over and I've lost section 8 housing and food stamps, leaving me in even deeper poverty than before.
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  811. ​ @gaycryptidhours that's messed up.
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  812. That's messed up
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  813.  @Johnbg-e5l  yep. She showed me her priorities.
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  814. Poor people like myself are ignored by the news.
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  815.  King Charles ✔  he made that money from paying poverty wages.
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  816. Holy crap.
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  817.  @aldomontes89  yep
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  818. Every day.
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  819.  @wrv341  you're saying it's more important to be fully staffed with slaves than partially staffed with well paid workers. And the government could subsidize your business, considering the trillions spent in the middle eastern wars and corporate subsidies.
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  820. @LaraEdwards-x5p  no system is perfect.
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  821.  @TheShauNanigans  I meant I can't afford to run for office. Sure I can vote, but politicians don't listen to poor people because they lack money.
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  822.  @robinmc142  you're cruel if you think poverty is an attractive choice.
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  823. I'll buy that book.
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  824. 60% of Americans, make, as a household, $75k a year or less.
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  825.  @jonpark6650  that means you would literally need to be a billionaire and fund your own news media corporation..... And ignore greed....
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  826. It's called just-world fallacy
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  827.  @user-gz4ve8mw9l  I still can't get over the fact that some people make billions of dollars every single year
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  828. Lie by omission.
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  829. Yes
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  830. No billionaire alive has ever donated 99% of their wealth away
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  831. It's called survivorship bias.
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  832.  @julieanderson100  I'm thinking about giving up on school now since I'm tired of being poor, watching my brother and living with my dad. And not getting help from my school.
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  833. I'm poor. I lost my food stamps, I'm on medicaid, I'm literally relying on a full ride scholarship to be able to finish community college, and get into university. At 29.
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  834. When the rich receive welfare it's business as usual but when the poor receive it it's a tragedy.
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  835. Yes
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  836. I noticed that when money is spent to help the rich it's called an "investment" but when money is spent to help the poor it's called an "entitlement."
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  837.  @NoToBigBro  they were poor when they received the loans. No millionaire or billionaire needs a pell grant
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  838.  @luodeligesi7238  ok but corporations own politicians.
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  839. Money.
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  840. Poor people like myself have no money to run for office and change things. The news ignores the poor as well.
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  841. conservatives believe in the myth of meritocracy. They believe everyone can become anything they want with effort alone. If you are born poor, it isn't your fault but if you die poor it is. Helping the poor becoming middle class or rich is rewarding failure in conservative's eyes. And that is anathema to them.
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  842. YES
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  843.  @leobigelow7021  poor people pay taxes too?
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  844. They want poor people to suffer
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  845. You are correct.
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  846.  @SWe3TdRe4Mz702  you've proven my point. You don't want to acknowledge that there's too much low wage labor.
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  847. you can't.
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  848. Because the opponents oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class.
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  849. I would tax corporations two to five times the amount their employees used in welfare benefits
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  850. Because many working class people are too busy hating the poor or trans rights. Their hatred blinds them to the real source of the problem.
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  851. @andromedaspark2241  you're right, the unofficial but more accurate poverty rate is the poor people's campaign, at 140 million people....almost half the country.
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  852.  @another3997  I'm aware.
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  853.  @silvermainecoons3269  sarcasm. I'm repeating fox news mantra.
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  854.  @johnm.515  Some Senator said he made $6 in the 1970s. That translates to $42.77 today.....
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  855. True. But people who believe in meritocracy aren't motivated by logic, but emotions and subjective ideas of right and wrong.
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  856. The Republicans are giving a middle finger to the middle class
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  857. With poverty, employers are doing that already figuratively.
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  858.  @dominicfucinari1942  the way i see the centtral problem is the housing market itself: if everyone already had a paid for, decent home, the housing market would crash since nobody would need to purchase housing anymore. Imagine inventing a perfect weight loss pill, it'd keep people healthier but cosmetic people and people who continually produce food would lose out on billions if not trillions of dollars.
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  859. $2 trillion in tax cuts but no student loan forgiveness or $15 minimum wage.
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  860. Yep
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  861.  @ZombieBarioth  it's called the myth of meritocracy.
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  862. Wealthiest country in the world with so many billionaires doesn't have the highest minimum wage.
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  863. College and healthcare were also cheaper then.
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  864. LOL.
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  865. It's called survivorship bias. Ben supports the idea the rich can succeed with no help and deserve unlimited financial support. Since anyone can be rich right?
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  866. Yes
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  867.  @JC-bs5pd  yes .... Too many make too low wages
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  868. Poor people like myself can't afford to run.
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  869. Conservative mantra
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  870. @bigtobacco1098  Poverty is a policy choice, not an individual failing.
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  871.  @prschuster  you're describing conservatives. They don't care about a problem until it happens to them.
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  872. No. Forcefully confiscate all of their wealth and force them to work, making $.7.25/hr, for the rest of their lives.
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  873. You're right
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  874. Exactly.
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  875. But women don't get rejected as much as men
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  876. Scare ignorant citizens.
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  877. Because worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that Republicans find unacceptable. Republicans also hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  878. LSame thing with bailouts. Republicans view being a billionaire or business owner as proof of having "worked hard enough to succeed," so when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. Whereas poor people haven't worked hard enough. Thus, any government help they receive is a "handout."
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  879.  @markzuckergecko621  tell me why it can't happen?
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  880.  @CreativeArtandEnergy  yes. If you're not rich in this country, you have to fight for everything. And that isn't right.
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  881. Yep
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  882.  @evilsharkey8954  exactly.
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  883. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that political leaders find unacceptable.
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  884. Except women can have sex whenever they want so they don't get angry from rejection.
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  885. They don't care about poor people
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  886. That is correct.
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  887.  @anewfuture  it is not something to be proud of if you are admitting that businesses are used to having slave labor. If our economy has to be fundamentally restructured so that there are no more working poor people then so be it.
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  888. Bruce Lee.
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  889. Exactly. I make $10/hr as a cashier... It sucks...
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  890. I know. I've been gifted a car but a minimum wage job can't even afford the gas.
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  891. Poor people don't run for office or get heard by politicians. I don't vote.
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  892.  @LiMaking  you have to keep pushing brother. I want you to remember this: poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  893. I can't afford to finish community college.
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  894.  @diaryofaselfmademillionaire  Half of workers make $34,000 a year or less. Over 70% of working americans live paycheck to paycheck. The country doesn't have an over abundance of high-paying jobs like you claim. Also, these minimum wage workers provide the very goods and services that make their corporations filthy rich-get rid of the minimum wage workers and the company collapses.
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  895. Tv cameras are $250,000 each. I don't think he has one at his house.
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  896.  @yishnir  because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. A ubi would give workers the power doctors have: to say no to low paying jobs
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  897.  @Styphon  blame the government for thinking disabled people are a burden that shouldn't get taken care of by the state, not disabled people wanting better lives for themselves.
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  898. Yes everyone does rely on luck. you have to be born being able to hear and see and breathe properly, you have to be born with arms and legs. You have to be born into a nation that has public services such as cops and judges and correctional officers that deals with crime, you have to be provided with enough food, Water, Shelter, health care, and transportation because you can't provide all these things by yourself and for yourself as a child or at any point in your life. You have to be lucky enough not to be killed in crime or a natural disaster or some other accident or be severely injured and disabled. Then on top of that all value is arbitrary, it's based on how we feel, which changes from place to place and time the time and person to person.
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  899. Yep.
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  900. I will never understand why the right will support the rich and business owners, but screw over everyone else.
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  901. Correct.
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  902. ​ @Abcq755 Yeah. I cried for being worthless.
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  903.  @rmelzhim6033  I'm leftist in USA but I'm poor and can't afford to run for office
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  904.  @emmafrench7219  I love socialism
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  905. I was laughing so hard I cried.
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  906. ​ @skipdog9912 I forgot to mention housing: Rent is $2000 a month for one bedroom, I must make three times to qualify. That's $72,000/year salary
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  907.  @subgenso6282  but many voters don't believe this.
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  908. ​ @johnathoncastro you believe in just world fallacy. Nobody should have to work 3 jobs in order to simply survive
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  909. You're joking, right? I used tinder for over 4 years straight, paid for it at one point, and STILL never got laid. Me losing my virginity is harder than performing open heart surgery.
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  910. Stop blaming poor people.
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  911. Correct.
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  912. ​ @kamiasana yep
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  913. What you aren't seeing is their true underlying belief: republicans believe poor women don't deserve to have children. They view poor mothers as undeserving of reproductive rights, thus they shouldn't have access to abortion. But once the child is born, the child shouldn't receive welfare either. The ultimate hatred over welfare isn't paying for healthcare or education itself, it's the insolence of the poor in acting "wrong" while being supported by taxes. Wealthy people can have kids out of wedlock and not face government penalties, but the state tries to pressure the poor to be married and working so their kids won't need welfare (which obviously doesn't work)
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  914. YES.
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  915. There is a book called "War is a Racket."
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  916. He makes $10 million a year, he can get all the healthcare he needs.
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  917.  @michelleespino9814  welfare is restricted to force poor people into a lifetime of minimum wage work.
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  918. Lol
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  919. I cry
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  920. Exactly
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  921. ​ @georgewagner7787 blame corporations, not poor people
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  922. Exactly.
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  923. 140 million people are in poverty.
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  924. ​ @comedicfarce4132  no.
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  925. ​ @carlbrenda6518 be quiet about just-world fallacy.
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  926.  @mak88119  not everyone can escape entry-level jobs, or even have any job.
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  927. ​ @Lobsterwithinternet that too. Modern monetary theory props us wall street.
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  928.  @mohammadwaled409  that was the wrong take away message.
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  929.  @mohammadwaled409  no it isn't. And even if it was it ignores that many of these students were poor entering college.
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  930. Yes!
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  931.  @linanicolia1363  I don't know how you figure that. I'm pursuing a bachelor's degree in physics. I have to make below $20k or above $50k to get healthcare. I have to be far below the poverty line or I risk losing healthcare, or I have to be far above the poverty line but then I risk not getting my degree. I lost my food stamps. I already lost my mom too.
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  932. 2 things, one of the reasons the poverty rate isn't realistic. It is because it would show the true magnitude of poverty. 140 million people are poor, not 38 million. Two, I'm poor but not qualified for medicaid because I'm able-bodied.
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  933. I paid $77 to see a movie with one another person
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  934.  @Tennis214  not everyone wants to be in the military.
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  935. Because he wants poor people to slave away.
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  936. Stop hating immigrants wanting better lives, blame corporations for exploiting immigrants for cheap labor.
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  937. He makes $10 million a year
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  938.  @cinderella3414  not really. doctors, lawyers, and engineers don't receive low pay nor are they treated like rapists. Minimum wage workers deal with both and much more.
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  939. I'm pursuing a Physics Degree now, it sucks because even with financial aid, I need welfare because I don't get living expenses fully covered
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  940. The government won't do it because it empowers workers.
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  941.  @sarasaeed6349  stock trading is literally gambling, with extra steps. you're making billions off of speculation. So the job is low skill.
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  942.  @quicksilvermad  that's messed up
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  943. I'd lie like him if I made $10 million a year
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  944. Poverty is a policy choice.
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  945. @Zachary Zarko  they can. It's not about profits, it's about power and control. Political and business leaders require workers to be desperate to accept shitty job offers.
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  946. @Zachary Zarko  the American economy, runs on poverty. Without the existence or threat of poverty, business leaders would wield no power over workers. Nobody would work fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
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  947.  @_nobodyxi  no it isn't. People hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty.
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  948. You're implying guys choose to be incels.
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  949.  @steventatlock5443  reminds of when this pizza shop paid his workers all of the store's sales.... $78/hr...
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  950. ​@Debbie Henri In other words, they call it an entry-level wage, but neglect to mention that the wage never increases no matter how long someone has been employed there. If an employer starts someone out at an entry-level wage but has no intention of ever increasing it, that person will never make a living wage.
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  951. Gotta love a bank bailout totaling $89 billion in one day but can't provide help to poor people.
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  952.  @giglioflex  because what you aren't seeing is the comparative advantage. If a grant is $900 and your salary is $900,000, then the salary is preferred. If the grant is $900,000 and the salary is $900, then the grant is preferred. Doctors salaries exceed welfare, meaning they don't need it. Welfare/grants exceed salary of minimum wage jobs, so poor people don't work for slave wages willingly. Politicians force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs anyway by doing their best to restrict welfare and attach it to work
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  953. Yep.
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  954. Yep.
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  955. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country.
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  956.  @Gooddaylasvegas365  that doesn't make poverty acceptable.....
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  957. Just-world fallacy.
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  958. Yes. It's an ideological and psychological difference concerning lack of empathy on conservatives side
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  959. Medicaid is insurance I'm forced to be on because I can't afford private insurance. Most doctors don't take Medicaid, the appointments are too far apart. And it's restricted.
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  960. socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor.
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  961. same.
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  962.  @davidbamber8026  CEOs probably couldn't handle a single shift at McDonald's.
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  963.  @FazeParticles  they could afford higher salaries but the rich enjoy poverty existing since they profit off of it.
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  964. Exactly
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  965. Work requirements force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs
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  966. Sounds like population control to me. How about there be no poverty in this wealthy nation?
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  967. Politics already is involved because politics is everything.
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  968. Politicians and the rich believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  969.  @helpanimals-  exactly
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  970.  @Booofin  yes. Basically poverty is a policy choice.
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  971. My theory as to the real reason why USA doesn't have robust welfare/guaranteed income for the poor is simple: because poor people will refuse to work minimum wage jobs. Poor people will not work for slave wages if they have decent government benefits.
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  972.  @user-gz4ve8mw9l  most people struggle to get by while Steve Cohen makes over 2 billion a year
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  973. Or disability pay
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  974. That's messed up.
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  975.  @lilpetz500  it's all by design. To enrich the top 1%.
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  976. without welfare and consumer debt nobody besides millionaires and billionaires would be alive now.
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  977. ​ @LifeInJambles exactly.
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  978. I live with my dad at 29 because rent for a one bedroom is not only $2,000 a month, but my monthly income must be 3x this.
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  979. Only rich people deserve bailouts
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  980.  @TJ-wt9op  jobs are jobs...they produce money for society. So mcds jobs provide value like plumbing.
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  981.  @shigshug8581  yes....
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  982. Wow
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  983. To force poor people out of school
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  984. Unemployment benefits expiring gave business owners hope since workers had the power to not work entry-level jobs, which don't pay enough to support a family and give you no skills.
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  985. @g_man2177  I don't like the fact that the poor are expected to work harder and receive less money than the rich.
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  986. ​ @cookiebatter162 it's women's fault I'm a virgin
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  987. Correct. Employers treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable. Poverty is a policy choice enacted by our political and business leaders, one needed to maintain control.
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  988. It's a cycle.
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  989. @Ishaan Singh not what i mean, i mean have nothing but self checkouts. and they're doing that not because workers are too expensive, because machines don't need full time hours, overtime, healthcare or paid time off. they're making the same amount of money with less workers and paying the workers picking up the slack exactly the same.
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  990. True, but it doesn't change the fact women can get laid more easily than men.
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  991. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office
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  992. His argument is fast food workers don't deserve to make six figures.
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  993. @Swe3tdre4mz Gaming  does 7.25/hr pay for bills? Because half the workforce makes $15/hr or less. Did you miss there being sky-high inflation and a pandemic? Unless you're a millionaire or billionaire, you aren't living debt-free.
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  994.  @JimClark2005  another thing I would like to say is just the structure of jobs: you aren't paid based on how hard you work you are paid based on how hard you are to replace. I work hard as a cashier but my wage never increases because I'm not hard to replace. Conservatives have this dumb idea that if you just work harder it's fine. So in their eyes if I were to work as a cashier for 2 years is that the equivalent of getting an associate's degree? If I work as a cashier for 4 years is that the equivalent of getting a bachelor's degree in physics or nuclear engineering? No it's not. My wage will stay the same no matter how hard I work. The only way to get more money is to either get more education or get more responsibility, but the truth of the matter is most jobs nowadays provide you with no such thing. Especially minimum wage jobs.
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  995.  @salemdesigns65  yes, when you work a job you can't complain about practices anymore
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  996.  @salemdesigns65  okay you're trolling.
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  997. I always compare poverty to women's suffrage. We as a society have the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, that it is a right that they are supposed to have, so we ensured that they have that right. That's it. Our Society is structured around that simple fact. Wages are not like the weather: Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed that no worker deserved to be poor then.....no worker would be poor. That's it. We would raise everyone's wages to an acceptable level and deal with the repercussions whatever they might be. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal economic forces, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  998. I doubt cops know the first 5 amendments.
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  999. Sounds like he had too high standards.
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  1000. @andromedaspark2241  republicans keep poverty rate artificially low. The poor people campaign estimated the poverty rate at 43%, or 140 million people.
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  1001. Exactly
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  1002.  @chrish564  yes.
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  1003.  @kyletrusler4565  exactly. That's evil.
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  1004. @John Dew you are ignoring employee's desire for a high wage, as if employees are providing no value to the employer, which is bullshit. Also, poverty ensures employees don't make what they are worth, they make what they negotiate.
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  1005.  @neetpride5919  it's also protestant work ethic too. Hard work, not faith, is the path to salvation.
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  1006. Because corporations want cheap labor.
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  1007. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  1008. no. it is lobbying. lobbying is legal where as bribery is not.
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  1009. Yep
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  1010. If income was spread evenly each household would be making 300k to 500k per year
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  1011.  @imyofriendB  I was not arguing for equal income mate. I was arguing that this country is wealthy enough to where we shouldn't have the extremes we have... Or at the very least not someone making 35k a year
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  1012.  @ravenm6443  yep.
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  1013. Exactly
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  1014. Because incels like myself aren't gay.
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  1015. It's horrible
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  1016.  @michelleespino9814  because many people think poverty is due to laziness.
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  1017.  @FaithfulFumoFan23  with what the cost of college is now only rich people could go. this would further stratify Society.
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  1018. @faustinreeder1075  wrong takeaway message. Sounds like you think the poor Don't deserve basic human dignity. And the poor work as well.
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  1019.  @HarrisonCountyStudio  college degrees are too expensive for most people. Even getting one doesn't change the fact most jobs pay at or near poverty wages, offer few benefits, and no job security(at-will employment). Yes making $7.25 an hour in USA Is more than the $3 a day some people in Africa live on. But RELATIVELY speaking, their lives are exactly the same- no access to high quality and affordable health care, no access to an education, inadequate or nonexistent housing, hunger, unlivable wages, and no social mobility.
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  1020. That is precisely why we don't have robust welfare programs or universal basic income. Because workers with enough power would never work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with 0 benefits or chance for advancement.
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  1021.  @Liam-zw1ek  yep
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  1022. We need a true progressive who stands up for the poor and middle class.
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  1023.  @markzuckergecko621  market value is a nebulous concept since most workers have insufficient bargaining power, corporations underpay workers, corporations have too much control, and you ultimately can't measure the value of individual effort. And the biggest problem is the US economy is built upon poverty.
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  1024.  @markzuckergecko621  you have ignored everything I said. The US economy runs on poverty. Politicians and business leaders have no interest in ending poverty because without the existence or threat of poverty nobody would accept dead-end jobs.
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  1025.  @CreativeArtandEnergy  she was sick for six years. I'm 29 now. I haven't given up on my dream of getting a Physics Degree. I am lucky I've won scholarships and grants.
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  1026. That's messed up
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  1027. He'd cry for an $80/hr minimum wage then.
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  1028. ​ @Mark-rw3kw markets are not magic. Markets are structured by humans. Our labor system is designed to allow low wage, low benefit jobs to proliferate.
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  1029. @Mark-rw3kw  1. You believe in the fallacy of relative privation. Just because something could or has been worse, then the situation can't be better(since you are comparing the worst situation) 2. It is not stealing if we structure society around what we deem intolerable. Discriminating based on race or sexual orientation or religious affiliation is intolerable. Paying poverty wages can also be deemed intolerable. It's about if we truly prioritize to eliminate such suffering.
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  1030. Politicians and the rich believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  1031.  @LuciTerra666  poverty is a policy choice
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  1032. Priorities
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  1033. Let's not forget it doesn't count benefits packages as part of that. I'm a cashier with no benefits.
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  1034.  @John-gi6yh  ok
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  1035. Notice how the answers conservatives give are always the same: it's whatever empowers the rich/powerful and disempowers the poor/disadvantaged.
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  1036.  @JohnWarner-lu8rq  ok.
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  1037. Everything is not only a policy choice but a moral choice as well. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising citizens' power, not continued crime, that politicians deem intolerable. Politicians refuse to accept armed citizens against criminals, because that is giving up the governments power. Politicians accept the underlying issues perpetuating crime, because crime gives Politicians a scapegoat for control. The only person you can count on for self-defense is yourself. Great video, Mr. Noir.
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  1038. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, the consequences we are unwilling to tolerate, the prices we are unwilling to pay. The government is presented with a very simple choice: you can have poverty exist in America or you can have worker solidarity but you cannot have both. Our government leaders treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as the risk they refuse to accept.
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  1039. As a cashier, I make $10.50 an hour. A PS5 costs more than what I make in working 2 weeks. I just took my brother to the movies/dinner. The tickets and food cost more than what I made in that shift. I.e. I spent $90 that day and I made $46 that shift. The work uniforms cost more than what I make plus gas.
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  1040. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  1041. It's messed up.
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  1042. ​ @Plimpert  I don't understand why so many people listen to rich news anchors but ignore the poor?
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  1043.  @patrickbateman529  mate people don't like working for SLAVE WAGES.
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  1044.  @patrickbateman529  Again, you need money to get an education. MONEY. How many times do I have to tell you this? USA doesn't have free college like Europe and the cost of college cannot be covered out of pocket by anyone except millionaires and billionaires.
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  1045.  @thisisgettingold  if your profit margin is so low that it can only be sustained by paying poverty wages then your business model is wrong.
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  1046. Haha.
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  1047. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office... because we are poor...
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  1048.  @221b-l3t  how can an entry-level job expect experience? You need experience to get the job but you need the job to get the experience. That's circular logic.
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  1049. Considering what restaurants make their workers could make $100,000 a year.
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  1050. I make $10.50/hour as a cashier and $900/semester as an intern. I use welfare to get by. Albeit i do so while attending higher education, but still. I don't see how the stock market represents my well-being.
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  1051. Because if living wages were the new metrics then this would be a third world country.
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  1052.  @luisofsuburbia  but most use debt to get by.
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  1053. The point is to keep people in poverty
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  1054. I hate conservative ideology
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  1055. Wow.
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  1056.  @MoCsomeone  lol we'd have a $50 minimum wage now.
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  1057. Beautiful to hear.
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  1058.  @optricks2469  it's not strawmanning and yes when they're arguing against minimum wage that's exactly what they're saying The richest people got trillions of dollars in a corporate bailout and the richest billionaires added over a trillion dollars to their net worth and the Republican politicians don't bat an eye. Doctors make 6 figures a year, sometimes 7, and again they don't bat an eye. Yet these same people are opposed to the poorest workers making an extra $7 an hour? That literally is because they don't think these workers deserve that much. And the whole purpose of the minimum wage from the government is because the employees are not able to negotiate on their own. There is almost unlimited monopsony power in the labor market, even more so in the employer's favor in the case of unskilled workers. If you are a minimum-wage worker then millions of people can replace you in an instant. The competition between workers is far too high for any individual worker to negotiate for higher pay all on their own. unless the government wants to do something to limit the labor pool then employers will always have access to far more labor than they could ever need and this will always drive wages down.
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  1059. Because many people believe poor people don't deserve government assistance.
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  1060. Beautiful show
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  1061. They do. Poor people can't change anything.
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  1062.  @mht5875  I think it would only lift people out of poverty.
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  1063. Oh, they do that all the time because of mandatory benefits. It's more expensive for a corporation to employ one full-time worker with benefits than 2 part-time workers without them. When Walmart was forced to provide health insurance for all of its workers, but its workers had to work at least 36 hours a week to qualify, Walmart cut all of its hourly associates hours from 40 hours a week to 35 and a 1/2.
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  1064. Corporations want cheap labor, that's the problem.
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  1065. @Cassady  You are not paid by how hard you physically work or how much you have to sacrifice. Or how the profitable the company is. All i am saying is that the whole minimum wage debate isn't about economics. It's about ideology. It's about politicians preferring poverty over worker solidarity since both can not exist at once. It's about many people believing that minimum wage workers do not deserve to have a decent life. Capitalist scum assign value to people based on how hard they work. The idea that if you don't work hard, you have no value, is disgusting. Because many people are either not willing or capable of working hard or at all, and for good reasons.
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  1066. Because they're paid so little.
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  1067.  @oggan97  people make what they negotiate, and most workers cannot negotiate what they're worth. I have no bargaining power, that's why I make $10/hr.
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  1068.  @TheDivayenta  I will say this: if we truly cared about ending poverty, then we would tolerate whatever consequences in fighting against their poverty. We do this for women in voting. However, we have a fundamental belief that women deserve voting, so we are willing to tolerate these consequences. We do not like to tolerate the consequences for ending poverty, therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty.
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  1069. Exactly
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  1070. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  1071. There are too many poor people
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  1072.  @dariussonofjazzlin7433  That part is accurate as well. If you create a skin tight space suit, that relies on mechanical pressure and not air pressure for the astronaut, then tearing the suit will not kill you when you go out into space since there's no pressure gradient for air to rush into. Only mid-pressure suits like the ones used by NASA, or high pressure suits that don't require pre-breathing, would kill you if it punctured. High pressure suits produce pressure comparable to sea level air pressure, the problem is the suit has to be so huge and heavy that it's too cumbersome to wear.
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  1073. I live in North Carolina and I am not seeing the benefits of capitalism. I require financial aid to go to college since I'm low income, but being low income does not automatically qualify you for assistance or scholarships. I need both good grades and to enroll in a minimum number of credit hours. The former is difficult since I need money to get good grades but I need good grades to get money. The ladder is difficult since again without money I can only afford to enroll in one or two classes at a time, not three or four, let alone five. So I'm stuck in this ridiculous position of needing good grades to get money but needing money to get good grades. I'm stuck in a position where I can have a 4.0 with two classes or 2.9 with five classes and I would still receive no financial assistance either way. I work as a cashier at a supermarket because hardly any high-paying physics or engineering jobs I can acquire with a high school diploma alone. I make $10/hr which is too little to live off of so I turn to food stamps and other welfare. This costs more to do than me just making a living wage. I'm also denied benefits since I work part-time(you have to be full-time to qualify) but employers also expect me to have open availability at the same time. I do a mathematics-physics internship at $15/hr but at 4 hours a week that doesn't help me survive either. I'm no engineer but either I have failed North Carolina or NC has failed me.
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  1074.  hermit gains  except houses used to be 60k...then they shot up to 400k or more.
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  1075. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  1076.  @capiche2759  you act like all workers can negotiate for the pay that they deserve, which they cannot. What it boils down to is the employee needs the employer far more than the employer needs the employee. There is no way for most workers, but especially low-wage ones, to negotiate for the pay they deserve. And yes, considering these people help make millions of dollars per year per store, receiving $7.25/hr is far below their value.
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  1077. Here's another hypocrisy here. Fox News hosts want the rich like CEOs to be paid based on the financial performance of the company and not skill but they want the working class to be paid based on skill and not the financial performance of the company.
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  1078. That's awful...
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  1079. ​@wilcee238 on of top that, Al's wife didn't work!
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  1080.  @anthonydelfino6171  say that again? By the way, it's by design. I've learned welfare is restricted for two reasons: 1. Because many people believe poor people don't deserve welfare 2. Poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  1081. I could afford college making that.
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  1082. ​ @MrTikifrog yep
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  1083. Because poor people just accept this. I'm trying to change but I can't on my own.
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  1084. Politicians and rich believe to motivate the poor to work harder you pay them less.
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  1085. Corporations spend more money on union busting than on giving workers benefits.
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  1086.  @Philosific  being a billionaire is like a free ticket to get away with white collar crime.
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  1087. @1lorijb  you can't stop poor people from reproducing. They will need state support
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  1088. Yep
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  1089. Healthcare is indeed a privilege. Nothing can be a true right if it scarce. But I do believe American citizens deserve healthcare. And the cutely of republicans is the point.
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  1090. ​ @carlbowles1808 I didn't think about it like that.
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  1091. Yes but politicians don't care
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  1092. Correct.
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  1093. @ConstructiveMinds100  LOLOLOL
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  1094. @wilsonas53  that's moral framing, yes.
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  1095. I'm trying, man. But I realized I have bigger problems in my life than lack of sex. I have to take care of my health better, finish my degree, and manage my finances.
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  1096. ​ @pizaliasta8369  Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  1097. If they are POOR, then the kids aren't human.
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  1098. It's funny when the Rich ask for money they're given a blank check but when the poor ask for money it has to be " means tested."
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  1099. That's just-world fallacy mate.
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  1100.  @littlejourneyseverywhere  I hate that the government despises disabled people.
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  1101. Yep.
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  1102. Exactly But that's the point. To force Americans to think the economy is "good "
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  1103. Exactly.
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  1104. I am happy for him.
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  1105. That made my blood boil.
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  1106.  @dark14life  as long as the government helps rich people everything is in order.
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  1107. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  1108. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  1109. I'm on medicaid. Most doctors don't take medicaid, the ones that do have way too long wait times, and I can't make more than $20k a year. I have to wait three months to get simple blood work done.
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  1110. ​ @reasonerenlightened2456 yep.
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  1111. His problem is he feels entitled to women he has no desire to be intimate with women
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  1112. I'm a poor, self supporting college student using welfare to get by. If I had a full ride scholarship or grant, I wouldn't need welfare and could compete with rich students.
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  1113.  @billcollins6894  everyone does not have family support like you. My mom is dead.
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  1114. He gets $56 BILLION while I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. Capitalism is evil.
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  1115. Don't speak for me. I'm American but I'm poor and have no voice in politics
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  1116. @raetavia8223 I did vote. But voting doesn't change ideology.
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  1117. Exactly.
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  1118. My vote doesn't count in NC because both parties ignore the poor
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  1119.  @DrJohn-rl9zg  i hope you believe I don't deserve poverty as a cashier
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  1120. Republicans and corporations actually support immigration because they want the labor forces who can't afford to argue and will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  1121. That's messed up anyone lives like that.
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  1122. When the money is spent to help the rich it's called an investment but when money is spent to help the poor it's called an entitlement
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  1123.  @StormcastMarine  I was watching this video where this guy makes 10 million dollars a year.... which is something like two grand an hour.....even if you work 12 hours a day year-round, saying that some jobs aren't worth $15 an hour.
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  1124. ​ @DecidedlyNinja I like how the risk for rich people is to become a part of the working class, but for the working class it's dying.
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  1125. jesus christ.
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  1126.  @missk1697  I'm saying they don't think all workers deserve to be rich or middle class
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  1127.  @IAMGiftbearer  what you're not seeing is that the lawmakers want poverty. As do the CEOs. They don't like the fact that workers had the choice to quit their crappy jobs with low wages and no health benefits.
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  1128.  @mattosgood28  I have a full tuition scholarship now, so I'm good.
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  1129.  @davidbamber8026  CEOs get rich from private equity, as do most billionaires-it has nothing to do with them being skilled.
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  1130. @otter4771  The home purchase focuses on the middle class. The tax credit is a subsidy to low wage employers and doesn't increase the bargaining power of the poor. She didn't push for a living wage.
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  1131. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept.
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  1132. Yep
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  1133.  @davidwestwater2219  you're cruel
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  1134. I'm an incel because I have no chance with women. I'm 27 years old. Not only am I still a virgin but I haven't kissed, dated, or held hands.
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  1135. @SeeJayPlayGames  living wage MIT website says my city says a living wage is $26/hour for a single person, so it IS closer to $30. For a single mother it is $61/hour.
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  1136. Because many people think poor people don't deserve government assistance.
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  1137. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  1138. "The government does have the responsibility to protect-" "I'm sorry?"
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  1139.  @threeofeight197  lolol
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  1140. I'm 29. I've never kissed or had sex. I'm incel virgin.
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  1141.  @waltergrace565  the rich do, poor people do their dead end jobs, subsidize their lifestyle, and provide the rich with status.
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  1142.  @mercyjokes2d696  thanks! I won't give up because I promised my mom(after she passed) I'd obtain my degree.
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  1143.  @NormalDarkCat  I'm not a child anymore but I wish you had more support.
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  1144.  @seeleunit2000  thank you. I'm too poor to run for office but I still want to pursue my education.
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  1145. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  1146. What's worse is it's the rich who decides what value is what. They decide for us what's valuable.
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  1147. Per year. Don't forget it.
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  1148. I'm virgin at 29
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  1149.  @julieanderson100  bachelor's of science. A physics degree.
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  1150. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office. I make $10.50/hour.
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  1151. Poor people can't afford to run for office
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  1152. He makes $10 million a year, he needs to stop complaining about Trump, trump isn't going after rich people.
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  1153. When the government helps the poor, it's bad. Fox news 101
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  1154.  @reasonerenlightened2456  Why would any government do that? And even if it did employees are already vulnerable to corporate power.
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  1155. $1.7 trillion
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  1156.  @charlottesghost2845  conservatives complain about a living wage being too much but CEO pay this high being too little.
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  1157. I'm gonna watch that.
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  1158.  @g_man2177  I have a high school diploma, unlike Laura boebert.
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  1159. Because it isn't real. You're sleeping with someone who hates you.
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  1160.  @KailyKail  Minimum wage jobs are dead-end. They give you no skills to become a stem Lord nor do they pay you enough to pursue a college education. Tell me how pushing carts at Wal-Mart or serving ice cream at McDonald's qualifies me to be a neurosurgeon.
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  1161. I'm happy for him as an incel.
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  1162. Any woman can get laid for free. The same cannot be said for straight men.
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  1163. @Ishaan Singh if it was cheaper it would've been done already.
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  1164. Smart poor people like myself have no money
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  1165. So then this is a moral issue to you, not economic. You believe some workers deserve poverty. And that it's your right to tell others how much they should make.
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  1166. ​ @Illumine01 yep
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  1167.  @zoomzoom3950  there is no affordable college or federal jobs training program. Therefore there's no probable way for poor people to attain higher education.
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  1168.  @JathraDH  except rich people get something for nothing all the time, they don't need to be forced to work.
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  1169.  @raapyna8544  are minimum wage is 7.25 an hour and things are crazy expensive. Most open jobs pray crazy low wages, half of Americans make less than $15 an hour. Try making $10 an hour and affording a $500,000 house.
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  1170. Correct.
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  1171.  @nairsheasterling9457  first of all it sucks rich people can get away with so much crime. Second of all how come LA doesn't just build permanent housing for the poor? hotels or something.
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  1172. Without access to welfare, healthcare, or education, I can't afford to go to college and I'm mired in poverty forever.
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  1173. I know right? THAT would've been rebuilding the middle class.
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  1174. Poor people are 43% of the population. Rich people are 7%
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  1175. I'm on welfare while in college
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  1176. I'm in poverty. Biden supported no policy that would help me escape it.
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  1177. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. We don't deem war intolerable.
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  1178.  @TheHuxleyAgnostic  it's messed up that the rich are put on a different pedestal than the poor...in FOX news eyes.
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  1179. that is messed up.
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  1180. ​@jeskerjames3260 that's the point. Conservatives want to abolish worker solidarity, not poverty.
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  1181. Because using the term "able body" is ideological, it's creating a distinction between the deserving and undeserving poor. That's what this is really about.
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  1182.  @salemdesigns65  not everyone has enough choices. Don't rock the boat? When company policy is objectively wrong?
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  1183. That's messed up
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  1184. Corporations support Illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  1185. Able-bodied is a moral term to imply poor people don't deserve government aid.
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  1186. If anchors can make millions, we should be pushing for an $80 minimum wage.
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  1187. Tax corporations 6x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits.
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  1188. It isn't greed because greed is a choice. It's about prioritization. Our corporations want power and control. To maintain control, they need to keep people in debt.
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  1189. Wtf
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  1190.  @Morderiser  again ancedotal, only the rich can afford college. You are being delusional if you believe a minimum wage job can come up with $100k in a few months, or even $20k. People accept low wages because they don't have enough money to not work ever again and because of monopsony power wielded by employers due to the erosion of unions and other workers rights.
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  1191.  @sprig5173  it's messed up. People tell me "work full time!" but i'm like, then i'd receive health insurance. And even if it was offered, the premium would be so high i couldn't afford it. My own store manager making $70k couldn't afford health insurance either.
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  1192. @ccsmith2937  because politicians don't want to abolish poverty. Poverty functions to control workers, to ensure poor people must work "undesirable" jobs that rich people would never do themselves.
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  1193. Workers aren't compliant, we are coerced by poverty.
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  1194. I have health insurance through the private market place, but the system is broken. 1. Education- community colleges don't offer health care. 4 year universities do if you pursue a degree full-time 2. Minimum wage jobs keep you part-time to avoid benefits 3. Internships don't offer health care by being classified as temp jobs. 4. I can't get obamacare 5. Medicaid classifies me as ABAWD, so I am ineligible
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  1195. I cry making $10.50/hr.
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  1196.  @yu-ger-bloob-highway3521  $60k? I make $10k and receive zero benefits or chance for advancement.
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  1197. Poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  1198. My mom passed away while I was in school. It took her six years to die from terminal illness. This stress caused me to flunk out of classes, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite school knowing what happened to my mom.
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  1199.  @cosmoevents21st56  I'm fine with ceo making more than a fry cook but $23 million a year?
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  1200. Biden said he supported a living wage, but he did nothing about this as VP.
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  1201.  @maximemeis2867  all change has a price. The question is are people willing to pay that price for students?
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  1202.  @ricochet2880  And employees DON'T EVEN WANT THAT MUCH. A house, car, education and healthcare?
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  1203. @John Dew mandatory profit sharing. Employees are given a higher percentage of profits. And being a fry cook isn't giving you any type of decent wage or skillset, no matter how hard you work. And you shouldn't have to "learn something else" to make a basic living wage because work isn't charity. Employers aren't working for free but they expect their employees to, and that's wrong.($7.25 an hour is slavery).
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  1204.  @Martini4466  poverty wage jobs.
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  1205. Be thankful. My mom died and I flunked out of school due to lacking adequate health insurance despite making $10.50/hr
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  1206.  @gracieb.3054  I would too. I always say healthcare should be affordable to people who make minimum wage.
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  1207. Why doesn't LA simply build adequate shelters or hotels and provide permanent housing?
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  1208. 5 dollars in the 1970s when he was a kid is $40/hr today with inflation.
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  1209. They don't care
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  1210. I don't know your main message, but I believe politicians don't want to make College tuition-free because making College affordable would be one major step in reducing poverty.
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  1211.  @JohnA...  My tax dollars go to $700 billion a year military but not to homelessness. If it was up to me I'd switch defense and HUD budgets.
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  1212.  @bendrui  I'm on medicaid too.
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  1213. Sub minimum wage for disabled people too.
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  1214.  @jackwolowacz9382  yes. That's exactly my point.
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  1215. I literally was crying.
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  1216. Yep
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  1217. Yep. Especially with minimal wage. Minimum wage jobs never increase their pay.
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  1218. Yep 😊
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  1219. Because worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once.
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  1220. Yep.
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  1221. The irony is lost on them
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  1222. There is no way EVERY man thinks you're ugly.
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  1223. Because corporations want cheap labor.
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  1224. When I got a $50 tip my boss got mad.
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  1225.  @MsRuneGirl  thank you. I'm glad I'm changing. I'm 29, but I'd rather be changing than give up. Yes, YouTube deletes your comments because of the new shitty spam filter system
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  1226.  @bigtobacco1098  you're saying you're more bothered by automation and inflation than abolishing poverty.
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  1227. Yes
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  1228.  @renegadeoffunk32  I make $10/hour as a cashier and $900/semester as an intern. I'm too poor to run for office.
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  1229. "Inside my budget" for college when it costed a few hundred bucks per year.
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  1230. My mom died because USA doesn't have universal health insurance
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  1231.  @GodBlessedAmerica  exactly
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  1232.  @ToxicAudri  i don't vote. These politicians are all evil
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  1233. For that to even be one-third of what you make you'd have to make $53 an hour..... That's not even counting if you're trying to save up for school.
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  1234.  @tubulardude44  me voting cannot force empathy in others. Many people see poverty as a moral failing
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  1235. Yep
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  1236.  @jgrAnimations23  then my life is over.
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  1237. He said he made $5/hr as a kid but neglected to mention that's $45/hr today with inflation.
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  1238. Exactly.
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  1239. I can't either. Especially with a $7.25 hr minimum wage still.
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  1240. Politicians have the power to eliminate poverty, it is simply not among their priorities.
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  1241. Student loan debt relief, auto loan debt relief, free college, medicare-for-all, a higher minimum wage at about $45 an hour, and Universal basic income. That's just to start. I'd pay off all mortgages as well. And all jobs would have paid vacation, paid time off, Paid Family Leave, unlimited paid sick leave, and a pension.
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  1242. Because he believes rich people and business owners deserve government help. The poor don't deserve it to him.
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  1243. Wow.
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  1244.  @objectivethinker3225  doesn't change corporate greed.
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  1245.  @markzuckergecko621  First off, corporations pay those workers poverty wages because they can, they can override the will of their workers. Second off, corporate pay structure is based on skill, not profitability. Chic fil a and McDonald's make enough in profits to pay their cashier's $100,000/year. You act like if McDonald's becomes a trillion dollar corporation it'll pay its workers enough to support a family. Wrong, it will never do that as long as workers have insufficient bargaining power
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  1246. We don't want to end poverty
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  1247. There are many evil things going on. It isn't just healthcare.
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  1248. Because they know poor people like myself won't be giving speeches.
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  1249. Yes
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  1250.  @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty  The reason politicians oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  1251.  @Ruhrohraggy23345  thanks buddy. I've set one up.
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  1252.  @Ruhrohraggy23345  being a trade worker while in school? That isn't realistic
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  1253. ​ @BestYouTuberever422 trade schools cost money, even with financial aid. I shouldn't have to do trade school or military service just because I don't want to be poor.
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  1254. @xRiddleMeThisYouTube  they would still exist if welfare was robust, just not paying poverty wages like they do now. Lower-end jobs can be done without poverty- either through automation or paying such workers decent wages.
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  1255. @jannieschluter9670  no doctor would be a cashier. Only people who don't have skills would take a minimum wage job.
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  1256.  @B_Bodziak  tax them to make up for welfare.
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  1257. Isn't that confirmation bias?
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  1258. Porn isn't irl sex.
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  1259. Yet I made $11/hour.
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  1260. LOL.
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  1261. To transfer the "burden" of taking care of disabled people from the government to the spouse.
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  1262. Yes
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  1263.  @Tyiion  isn't that also a "guaranteed income " that republicans oppose for poor people?
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  1264.  @TheRealLesterGreen  if they could do that already, then they wouldn't need food stamps. You're acting like everyone makes as much as doctors, but apply for food stamps anyway.
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  1265. Exactly. THEY are the ones who are entitled.
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  1266. If the multiverse is real, and infinite universes exist, there's a universe out there like that.
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  1267. Yes. You gotta have boundaries.
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  1268. The truth is politicians view being rich or a business owner as having succeeded in the system that works(just-world fallacy) So when they make a mistake, they deserve to get bailed out due to their success. Where as poor people have failed, so any help they receive is a "handout."
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  1269. Another reason we don't have robust welfare programs is because it would give workers too much bargaining power. And they wouldn't make accept dead-end jobs in the first place. It's like what would happen under ubi
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  1270. The government sets a low national minimum wage. It doesn't mandate employers offer benefits like paid sick leave or paid family leave. It gives employers too much power to quash unionization efforts. The labor market system is designed to allow low wage, low benefit jobs to profilerate.
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  1271. Because it's called Calvinism. Many conservatives believe poor people must "earn" government assistance. They fundamentally think it's unjust to help give others "something for nothing."
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  1272.  @sevdev9844  so I'm an incel because I want companionship. Not just sex?
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  1273. You can't buy respect or love.
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  1274. It isn't greed, it's deservedness. Rich people deserve government help, but poor people don't.
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  1275. Well.. Biden can get the FTC to break up all corporations(dismantling corporate power) which in turn would destroy corporate lobbying and the wealth of most billionaires.
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  1276.  @ernststravoblofeld  because if politicians lived in the real world, as poor people or middle class, they'd realize everything is too expensive.
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  1277. I'm a cashier and make $10.50/hr, am kept part-time to avoid receiving benefits, and I can't afford college.
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  1278. Don't forget that minimum wage jobs are part-time to avoid offering health insurance.
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  1279. I make $9/hour. I can't run for mayor
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  1280.  @221b-l3t  that's basically wage slavery....
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  1281.  @diegoharo7943  because it's the only way corporations can control workers. If poverty did not and could not exist, noone would ever accept working in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement. No worker would accept jobs that pay them so little. This is to say nothing of offering benefits.
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  1282.  @Mogardie  that isn't livable if you don't have health insurance or have it but it has crazy high deductibles. And not everyone can work 40 hours.
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  1283. Also my company offers benefits like health insurance, PTO, 401k, cheap medicine, and tuition coverage....if you are full-time. So ALL employees are made part-time.
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  1284. You pretty much have to be a millionaire or billionaire to avoid slavery.
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  1285. @Gregorypeckory  yep
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  1286. Yep.
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  1287. 500,000? The median income in USA is 35k isn't it? This guy is not in touch with most of the public.
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  1288. The basic problem is corporations profit off of healthcare being unaffordable.
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  1289. Hello
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  1290. @uncomfortabletruth5915  I said in another thread, but a doctor could make $90/hr to start. A cashier can't even demand $9/hr without collective bargaining or minimum wage increase. It does not matter how much money any fast food joint or supermarket makes. Walmart could make trillions per store and could pay their cashiers $60/hr, but will NEVER do that without workers having enough power to force them to do so. Most workers do not possess enough power to make a living wage on their own. This is to say nothing of jobs providing benefits like health care, paid vacation, etc.
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  1291. @uncomfortabletruth5915  ah I see. My bad for the misunderstanding. Minimum wage debates(and Healthcare) Get me VERY emotional, so I lose focus sometimes.
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  1292. @Cassady  yes. To all of that, yes. Problem is ideological, corporate and political leaders don't want workers, much less anyone else besides themselves, having power. Like I said, poverty and worker solidarity can not both exist at once. Our government treats the latter as unacceptable. Make up the deficit? Corporations get subsidies. They will never fail as long as politicians are corrupt. Poor people are on their own. It isn't the same.
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  1293. @Cassady  why is no one entitled to a living wage? Or raises? Just the living wage alone - why allow workers to experience poverty morally. Economically, why oppose a living wage minimum wage, but also many people complain about welfare too. So people oppose the government providing financial assistance to people who don't make enough money to live, but they also oppose the government passing a living wage. So what are poor people supposed to do? Work, but not get paid or survive? Many people can increase their skills, but not everyone. If it was doable, then working poor would not exist.
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  1294. @Cassady  do you truly believe everyone can increase their skills? Because if you truly believe this, you are implying the 140 million people in poverty in this country are poor by choice(at least the adult workers).
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  1295.  @tsubasangel  it's called survivorship bias.
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  1296. Because rich people believe in the myth of meritocracy and equivalent exchange. Meritocracy: if rich people admit being poor isn't a choice then being rich isn't a choice either. That becoming rich is due not to effort but luck, cheating: making their wealth unfair and any amount of effort going towards success pointless. Myth of Equivalent exchange: you provide an enormous amount of effort and you receive an equivalent reward out. Conversely, if you sacrifice something, then you gain something of Equal value in return. But this is wrong, people don't work because it pays off, they work because they believe it pays off but equal effort does not always mean equal gain. This is because effort is within your control where as reward is not.
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  1297.  Howard Bueker  because $10/hr can't afford a house. Or car. In fact, it costs more gas to go to/from work than what make from working. You seriously can't be asking me how I don't just survive on $60 a week?
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  1298. Haha
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  1299.  @secularhumanistforever  ok. Well...
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  1300.  @capiche2759  these people work enough in the first place, it is not a mutually beneficial contract if the employer has all the power. And I'm pretty sure I already stated skill and productivity are not the same so replaceability does not change the profits of any business. Incorrect, I want all workers to be able to negotiate with their employers, that requires both sides having nearly equal or exactly equal power, and that is not the case for most people.
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  1301.  @Nothing-nf8ve  start a business with no money, education, or resources?
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  1302. I'm on welfare AND got a tax return.
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  1303. EXACTLY.
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  1304. Disgusting.
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  1305. Why have such a high multiplier when these people know wages are low and inflation is high?
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  1306.  @JoeyXSmith  yep. And his father was more concerned about his own reputation than his son's death.
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  1307. Do you have to do anything to vote? And that guy was just blank, realizing he lost.
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  1308. Exactly.
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  1309.  @adamcolclasure4892  welfare is restricted to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  1310. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. You really think I have too high Standards for women?
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  1311. Yeah
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  1312. It's all by design.
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  1313. That doesn't solve the problem of no woman loving you
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  1314. I'm an incel. Be quiet
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  1315. It won't help because they don't offer genuine affection.
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  1316.  @Zombub  he believes in just-world fallacy and he's an other wallet warrior.
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  1317. Remember this: The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is higher employee costs, not lack of paid FML, that politicians find unacceptable.
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  1318. He felt entitled to women.
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  1319. When I went to higher education I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country.
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  1320. Because that person believes in just-world fallacy and Calvinism.
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  1321. Conservatives believe the rich are priceless and the poor are worthless.
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  1322. Lie by omission.
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  1323. I made $10/hr as a cashier. My raise was $0.50. They rejected my $17/hr wage proposal.
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  1324.  @EitriBrokkr  yes. I'd be fine making 1.70 per hour... If homes were $12,000..not 450,000.....
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  1325. ​ @1987BillyBob enough to live and not need welfare or charity
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  1326. Someone has to do these jobs
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  1327.  @AxionSmurf  fast food here pays $8.50/hour.
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  1328. @talyahr3302  when my mom passed away from NC refusing to expand medicaid, as I contemplate quitting community college because NC won't make community college tuition free, I tell myself voting doesn't matter. But every day I see many other people in NC not giving up.
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  1329. When it favors workers, yes. Because corporations want to depress wages of their workers and make them dependent.
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  1330. It's to keep you in poverty
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  1331. The rich need someone to leech off of.
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  1332. Correct.
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  1333. ​ @SpecialBlanket that would be evil too but that isn't the reason for a marriage penalty.
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  1334. @crtoons79 it is so EVIL HOW DISABLED PEOPLE ARE TREATED.
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  1335. That's tear jerking
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  1336. Exactly
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  1337. I'm poor. My voice is ignored by politicians
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  1338.  @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty  yes. But bargaining power is why corporations hate unions, welfare, and UBI.
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  1339. ​ @solushyperborea goodbye, troll.
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  1340.  @waynecsmith5145  yes..
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  1341. Yep.
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  1342. Exactly
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  1343.  @Bill-ou7zp  these people are living in the 70s where you could get a union manufacturing job without even a high school degree and support a family.
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  1344. As a former incel I've realized I've been too scary or too lazy to pursue women. I don't hate women. I want to lose my virginity, sleep with a woman who finds me attractive. I'm not perfect, but I have ambition and hope.
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  1345. I want daily show to be a 24 hour news network. One host per hour.
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  1346. Yes.
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  1347.  @june570  we cherry pick successes as if what is possible is also what's probable.
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  1348. Wtf how?
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  1349. I make $60 a week as an intern when it takes $80 to get to and from the internship.
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  1350. Corporations support illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  1351. ​ @Justowner the reason pay for minimum wage workers is so low is because of crappy welfare. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If I made enough money through welfare to afford healthcare, housing, food,etc. I'm not working a job that deprives me of said things. Noone would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
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  1352. That's evil.
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  1353. Except politicians don't want poverty to end
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  1354. That's messed up.
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  1355. A prostitute does not offer real sex. There's no real affection there. I refuse hookers.
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  1356. Ableism.
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  1357. Or receive benefits.
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  1358.  @whyamimrpink78  Biden alone could do the following things: free every federal non-violent drug offender, cancel all student loan debt, legalize marijuana, give everyone healthcare, pull out of Iraq and Syria, stop all drone bombings, and raise minimum wage for federal government workers to $45/hr.
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  1359. What happened is rich people took over journalism. Poor people like myself can't be successful journalists. Also remember, Stephanie Ruhle is a hardcore Democrat on a Democrat apologist network. She isn't going to ask anything that makes Democrats look bad.
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  1360. @IAmAlmightyGod  I see that when poor people receive government benefits, it's called an "entitlement." But when rich people receive government benefits, it's called an "investment."
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  1361. ​ @avenueslim9614 because it's about control.
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  1362. @redspice3230  if you use the term handout your message is a moral one: that poor people don't deserve to receive help.
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  1363. @kingpest13  I stopped voting when I made $10.50/hr but was ineligible for welfare.
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  1364. I'm an involuntary celibate....yes... Because I've been trying to get laid for 5 years to no avail. I still haven't kissed a girl and I'm 27.
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  1365. That's because many people believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work order and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  1366. @AnnLinky  poor people live in society, and poverty has a cost that must be incurred by someone. It is either on corporations or the government. Of course it takes hard work to obtain financial independence, but hard work alone is not a ticket out of poverty, otherwise poverty would not exist.
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  1367. Ok
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  1368. But poor people can't receive a break.
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  1369.  @Botatochicken  it's called survivorship bias, just world fallacy, and myth of meritocracy.
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  1370.  @JaekSean  yes
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  1371.  @Gooddaylasvegas365  aw, this "job isn't meant to be a career" nonsense. Everyone cannot be promoted out of low wage jobs or go to college. Somebody has to work these jobs. Not everyone has family to lean on and not everyone is finished with school by age 25. These are career jobs for many people.
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  1372. Nope
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  1373. My mom died in sickness and poverty, and medicaid was expanded after her death
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  1374. He could forgive student loans and make college free on his own.
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  1375. I can't afford community college, or food, or housing.
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  1376. And the poor.
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  1377. wow.
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  1378. Yes. I'm a virgin at 28.
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  1379.  @matthewschwartz6607  lol no
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  1380.  @robertdeclue4605  the rich can do whatever they want, poor people wanting a better life for themselves are all criminals. That is how politicians truly think
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  1381. @Alessio  Yep. I hope to become a journalist and make people realize this. On some level, I'm positive that USA would pay more income taxes to eliminate rape. but we would not all be willing to pay more taxes to eliminate poverty or student loan debt.
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  1382. ​ @G_GO0NO exactly
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  1383. Correct.
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  1384. He also could forgive student loans and make college free on his own.
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  1385. ​ @Addlibs  i thought UK had free college.
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  1386. I agree.
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  1387. That's so messed up.... That is literally slave labor.
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  1388. Exactly.
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  1389. Student loan debt is a policy choice.
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  1390. Because not everyone can work?
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  1391. ​ @BriLee-g8l 43% of the population is in poverty, that's close to half the country.
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  1392. It isn't fair that women can get sex/dates WITHOUT having to work on themselves.
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  1393. The American economy runs on poverty, or at least the constant threat of it. Americans like their goods cheap and their services plentiful and the two of them, together, require a sprawling labor force willing to work tough jobs at crummy wages. On the right, the barest glimmer of worker power is treated as a policy emergency, and the whip of poverty, not the lure of higher wages, is the appropriate response.
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  1394. ​ @Mywifesaidicould minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  1395. If deleted emails can be retrieved, that defeats the purpose of deleting emails, doesn't it?
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  1396. ​ @maryjack3830 escorts don't offer genuine affection.
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  1397.  @patrickbooth5091  you subscribe to just-world fallacy. Where was his option for free college? Oh that's right, there wasn't one.
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  1398. Yep.
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  1399. Beautiful 😊
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  1400. ​ @jermainemyrn19  essay that outlines that poverty serves 13 roles, or functions, within a capitalist society. The first, and biggest function of poverty, is to ensure society's dirty work gets done. Nobody works minimum wage jobs if everyone was rich or skilled, so capitalists and conservatives have no interest in helping everyone obtain these things in order to force poor people to accept menial, low paying jobs.
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  1401. In the fifties you could buy a home that was less than the median salary. You'd have to raise median income to around $459,000/yr today.....
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  1402. Acknowledging the system is the problem destroys just-world fallacy.
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  1403. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier at a supermarket. I worked 28 hours a week because at 33, I'd receive health insurance.
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  1404. Poor people aren't freeloaders
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  1405. I'm sad.
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  1406. Why can't any news media channel be independent?
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  1407. I can't be an economist because I will never understand why the federal reserve does not simply print a trillion dollars and give it to poor people like it gives to rich wall streeters.
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  1408. Yes
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  1409. Because they hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty. They see working in fast food or retail as a punishment
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  1410.  @2crude2crudeofficialband3  that's messed up
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  1411.  @lilpetz500  I'm sorry you can't attend university
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  1412. Exactly.
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  1413. Yep. As a cashier, i made $10/hr. I was kept under 32 hours a week, so i stay ineligible for health insurance.
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  1414. Wtf?
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  1415. ​ @laurie_guilbeau you need a bachelor's degree to obtain non minimum wage jobs. I'm at community college now, but my goal is to obtain a bachelor's degree in physics.
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  1416. Rich people think that you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  1417. 1. Most incels are poor 2. Hookers don't like you 3. I make $10.50/hour as a cashier and $900/semester as an intern. I'm 29. I'm broke.😢
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  1418.  @joe9634l  that is awful. But that doesn't sound like he became their caretaker.
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  1419.  @cezzeboi2841  wow. Wow. I can't even refute your heartless words.
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  1420.  @cezzeboi2841  better choices. It didn't choose to make my mom sick.
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  1421.  @sopheakko6744  shouldn't you be arguing nobody needs Medicaid? Or that college students need cars?
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  1422. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier but didn't qualify for Medicaid then because I was "able-bodied" e. NC refused Medicaid expansion
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  1423.  @chubbysumo2230  many people are ok with welfare for rich people and business owners, not poor people.
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  1424. It's circular logic, isn't it? Oppose poor people receiving a living wage but provides welfare to people who don't make enough money to live. Berate minimum wage workers but deny poor people free college to escape minimum wage jobs.
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  1425. However, politicians don't want to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  1426. Yes
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  1427. Wow.
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  1428.  @edwardfischer3944  holy crap
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  1429. Doesn't solve the problem because 1. I'm paying for sex 2. She doesn't like me
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  1430. Yep
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  1431. Yep
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  1432.  @MSF8637  $1.7 trillion in debt. $690 billion in endowments.
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  1433.  @hartubmoses6645  wages that don't pay you enough to survive= slave wages Food stamps, section 8 housing, Medicaid, all of these benefits pay more than minimum wage work.
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  1434. It's about priorities
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  1435. ROFL.
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  1436. I'm trying here, but I'm still a virgin.
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  1437. I wish corporations changed their wage structure. Corporations pay people by skill and not profitability. This screws over workers. If employees got a fair share of the profits places like Chick-fil-A that make millions of dollars at each location would have to pay their cashiers $100,000/year.
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  1438. They suffer from low wage work. Stop being illogical.
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  1439.  @betunia98  When the rich ask for money they receive a blank check. when the poor or middle class ask for money they receive pennies with strings attached.
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  1440. It's called the myth of meritocracy.
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  1441. I look fine and act normal, but at nearly 30 years old, I've never kissed a woman, or held hands, or had sex.
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  1442. Really? That's Making me cry....
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  1443.  @DrivingMaskina  if welfare isn't restricted, it empowers poor people. But as it is structured now, rich people are empowered.
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  1444. This is one of my two dream cars. Nice reviews as always.
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  1445.  @Yutani_Crayven  Slow down. First off, yes stock options is ONE reason, it is not the only reason(obviously). Second off, did you just say a $25 minimum wage? I thought the national movement is for $15 or are you saying you personally want a $25/hr minimum wage bill passed? Third off, I do agree with your point that the core issue is policy, but that policy should center around pre tax income: weakening intellectual property, having stricter regulations on acquistions and mergers, limit outsourcing and downsizing, and especially bringing back labor unions so workers can collectively negotiate higher wages. This is nowhere near an exhaustive list I know.
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  1446. The government isn't the central problem, corporations are. The government backs corporations. Corporations want cheap labor, which is why they support poverty and immigration. They want debt slaves, desperate workers, higher profits, and so on.
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  1447. correct. But Republicans believe every problem is individual, not systemic.
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  1448.  Ash Hegde  over-spend? On food? Water? You mean the basic necessities of life? You have to be joking. Our economy is structured in such a way only MW jobs can be acquired by people with minimal skills/education.
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  1449. What happened to compassion in America.....
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  1450.  @zzzT.  Yes
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  1451.  @FilthyMcFly1983  yes. It's evil
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  1452. That's messed up.
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  1453. My replies are gone
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  1454. Yep.
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  1455. 1. Politicians want poverty to exist. 2. Corporations want poverty to exist as well.
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  1456. I believe that worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  1457. Yep.
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  1458. From Herbert gans functions of poverty: "First, the existence of poverty ensures that society's "dirty work" will be done. Every society has such work: physically dirty or dangerous, temporary, dead-end and underpaid, undignified and menial jobs. Society can fill these jobs by paying higher wages than for "clean" work, or it can force people who have no other choice to do the dirty work - and at low wages. In America, poverty functions to provide a low-wage labor pool that is willing - or rather, unable to be unwilling - to perform dirty work at low cost. Indeed, this function of the poor is so important that in some Southern states, welfare payments have been cut off during the summer months when the poor are needed to work in the fields. Moreover, much of the debate about the Negative Income Tax and the Family Assistance Plan [welfare programs] has concerned their impact on the work incentive, by which is actually meant the incentive of the poor to do the needed dirty work if the wages therefrom are no larger than the income grant. Many economic activities that involve dirty work depend on the poor for their existence: restaurants, hospitals, parts of the garment industry, and "truck farming," among others, could not persist in their present form without the poor."
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  1459. The core problem is that there's no objective way to determine how much individual contribution a CEO provides. And business can perform well due to external factors.
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  1460. Yep
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  1461.  @ALL_CAPS__  beautifully said.
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  1462. @sams517  I agree with you
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  1463.  @3SonsRC  nothing is free.
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  1464.  @LokeshTantuwaya  the taxpayers? We pay for everything. You're acting like some things are free.
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  1465. They don't want jobs to pay more either.
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  1466. You can't. I need food stamps to survive.
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  1467. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier at a supermarket.... I feel like a loser because my parents drive me to work and feed me.... because I can't afford gas or food....
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  1468. Yes
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  1469. It depends on how negative energy behaves non-gravitationally.
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  1470. it's circular logic, isn't it? You rent in order to save to buy a home you currently can't afford but the rent is so high you can never save enough money to buy a home, only to pay more rent.
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  1471. ​ @iii___iii  then argue for STEM graduates to make more too.
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  1472. My replies are gone
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  1473. ​@kyle1235 Why didn't the supreme court strike down PPP loan forgiveness😮?
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  1474. Exactly.
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  1475. because it isn't about money, it's about power, control, and entitlement.
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  1476. And what if the job is minimum wage and doesn't offer health insurance? What if you're unable to work?
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  1477. @@blackjock953 a doctor making $900,000/year would never need food stamps.
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  1478.  @Abyzz_Knight  I see. It's not just money, but luck, not just financial support but emotional support as well.
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  1479.  @jingbot1071  I'll add context: Herbert gans outlined that poverty persists in USA for 13 reasons. The first and biggest reason, is because poverty ensures society's minimum wage jobs get done. These jobs are dead-end, low paying, and undignified. These jobs no billionaire or doctor would ever do. Rich people use poverty to exploit others and do jobs they would never do themselves. The obvious solution to this is to pay minimum wage jobs more than skilled jobs (the minimum wage debate), but this is ideologically and economically opposed.
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  1480. Exactly
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  1481. I don't vote for politicians because they only focus on the middle class, not the poor. I make $10/hour as cashier, $900/semester as an intern, and am forced to use Medicaid because Medicaid expansion caused me to lose my premium tax credit that made my private insurance so cheap. I can't get food stamps anymore. My mom is dead because NC refused to expand Medicaid.
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  1482.  @saadiasheikh5744  okay, I won't.
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  1483. He lost the popular vote. Don't forget that.
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  1484. You have to not be poor to afford a prostitute, which many incels are. And you can't buy intimacy, so paying for sex solves nothing.
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  1485. Rofl
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  1486. People don't use logic when hating the poor because they believe being poor is a moral failure.
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  1487.  @cosmoevents21st56  one CEO made over $600 million in one year.
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  1488.  @cosmoevents21st56  I'm fine with people being rich but $23 million is too much if his workers don't make $8 an hour.
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  1489. Conservatives don't believe that. They believe in just world fallacy. They truly believe poverty is an individual problem that anyone can overcome.
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  1490. LOL.
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  1491. Because us economy runs on poverty.
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  1492. Poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature of gravity.
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  1493. Yep
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  1494.  @soulblack621  the real solution would be a guaranteed minimum income- it'd be an overhaul ALL government aid for the poor- pell grants, medicaid, food stamps-and provide direct cash assistance, without work requirements, to all poor people nationwide.
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  1495. @soulblack9094  beautiful. If only fdr passed the economic bill of rights.
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  1496. I'm 29 and a virgin. You're saying it's MY fault I'm single
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  1497.  @maximemeis2867  1. All priorities are not created equal. 2. Every decision has a trade-off. 3. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept
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  1498.  @ricochet2880  Hypocritical when corporations want as much as money as possible, it's fine. But when employees want the same thing, they're greedy.
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  1499. @John Dew You're admitting that I'm right. Employees have little to no say over wages, otherwise we wouldn't have over half of the workforce making under $40k/year. Employees have no say because they are easily replaceable, the company incurs no costs from ensuring the employee's well-being, and most people are at or near poverty so they need some type of job to afford basic necessities. Almost everything is a commodity-healthcare, education, transportation, etc.. Thus people need money, which they don't have enough of.
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  1500. i bet if we fined these businesses 3x what they pay their employees whenever the stores are understaffed or the turnover rate gets above a certain amount things would change in a hurry.
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  1501.  @ThexDynastxQueen  in usa "flipping burgers" is akin to being a bank robber
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  1502. $20 million? I'd retire in two months
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  1503. Yes.
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  1504. There are no female incels.
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  1505. It's gaslighting He makes ten million dollars every year for lying
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  1506. Because it's admitting inequality.
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  1507. Because she rules over us.
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  1508. No... There are none.
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  1509. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. I'm on food stamps.
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  1510.  @jackwolowacz9382  Well the bigger reason that Ben and conservatives subscribe to survivorship bias is because it's how they justify capitalism. If you're born poor it isn't your fault but if you die poor it is. Acknowledging that it's a systemic problem of overcoming poverty, that not everyone can become rich, means that effort alone isn't good enough to ensure success.
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  1511. What elliot did was terrible.
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  1512. They can get laid whenever they want.
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  1513. ​ @kushclarkkent6669 exactly.
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  1514. ​ @Thezuule1 yep
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  1515. The point of their asinine rant is because they don't want workers to have too good of a living.
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  1516. Politicians don't want to end poverty because, without it, corporations can't control workers.
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  1517. I googled his salary. $10 MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS A YEAR.
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  1518. ​ @nicolasm400 exactly.
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  1519.  @MrHaighahatta  exactly.
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  1520. @ happy yes but my suffering is real and there are way more poor people than rich people
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  1521.  @angelabarnes7588  I feel like the point of this project is to diminish education for people conservatives deem inferior: poor, disabled, minorities.
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  1522. Holy crap
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  1523. And sniper rifles and assault rifles, both of which I can't own as a civilian.
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  1524. I'm on Medicaid. Most doctors don't take it, plus the ones that have long wait times. I had to wait four months to get a vision exam.
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  1525. Thank you.
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  1526. 1. I'm not ready to date 2. I wouldn't want a woman in my house, let alone bedroom.
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  1527.  @yt_nh9347  CEOs get paid millions regardless of how well the company does and because they have more bargaining power not because they're that much more valuable.
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  1528.  @yt_nh9347  People don't get paid what they are worth they get paid what they negotiate. And as you can see with the massive poverty in this country many, many workers are paid far less than what they are worth.
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  1529. Yes
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  1530. Then America has failed. I'm a cashier. I make $10.50 an hour. I'm kept part-time, so I'm ineligible for benefits. I can't build up savings. Their college tuition program is nowhere near enough to pay for college. The job offers no career advancement. I'm also ineligible for welfare since I'm past the age of 25 and have no kids or disabilities.
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  1531. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  1532. That's another thing that needs to be changed. Mandate that companies have to offer benefits to all employees regardless of the number of hours they work. Because as it stands it's more expensive for them to employ 2 40-hour week people with benefits than 4 20 hour a week workers without benefits. If you mandated benefits across the board part-time work would disappear overnight.
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  1533.  @elavke5441  are you implying that's too much or too low? And making $8.50 an hour is $17k a year. With a $15 minimum wage that Republicans oppose is about $30k a year depending on the hours.
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  1534. He's too rich to be affected by inflation. He makes $16 million a year
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  1535.  @SandraMartinez-gv1yf  survivorship bias and ignoring luck.
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  1536. I would rather my tax dollars go towards say, a program to help pay for a car for poor people than for the defense budget. So if all of the poor households in my state received a paid for car by my tax dollars, I'd be much happier with that then versus the money going towards the military budget.
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  1537. ​ @vdubz67  in an economy where few high paying jobs exist without a college education.
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  1538. ​ @vdubz67  damn poor people to work minimum-wage jobs for the rest of their lives or expect them to go to college but damn them for having it take on debt. Oh yeah, wanting to escape poverty, how terrible is that? Smh
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  1539. Politicians do not fundamentally want to end poverty. That is the core problem
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  1540.  @steveweast475  k
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  1541.  @markzuckergecko621  yes you can. If the demand is high enough
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  1542.  @markzuckergecko621  there are many laws against ending poverty Are you not listening to what I'm saying? The minimum wage is less than eight bucks an hour, unions have been eviscerated destroying collective bargaining, most open jobs being created are minimum wage jobs, all states are at will employment, most entry level jobs are dead end and give you no skills, college tuition is through the roof, promotion rarely happens anymore if at all. Benefits are virtually worthless compared to what previous generations had. This country is built on the backs of poverty wage workers.
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  1543. I'd tax them 5x the amount their employees used in welfare benefits. This would be IN ADDITION to the other taxes they already have to pay.
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  1544. When did he find the time to ask that many women?
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  1545. Yep.
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  1546. Exactly
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  1547. You're right ​ @talktothehandreviews 
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  1548. I'm in NC and am a community college student. I was forced onto medicaid after NC passed an expansion. I was paying $50/month for blue Cross Blue shield, but It went up to $436 because I was automatically enrolled in Medicaid. I lost all of my old doctors, have been catching hell finding new ones. I'm thankful there is a doctor that allows me to use Medicaid because my two medicines are $739 a month. I can't afford that working minimum wage or an internship. My mom died because Medicaid was too restricted and private insurance companies refused to care for her.
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  1549. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country.
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  1550. That's messed up.
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  1551.  @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty  EXACTLY.
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  1552.  @ponderdoe  you're right giving up will hurt me so much more than going on
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  1553.  @unicorn73212  okay
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  1554. @jeffsteyn7174  corporate grants were $36.55 BILLION in 2023. But I can't get $36,000 grant for college.
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  1555. I don't understand why people who are poor vote, and I'm in NC. i go to community college and rely on welfare and charity programs in order to survive. Medicaid is taken by so few doctors I might be forced to rely on charity anyway. How can anyone call themselves Christian but despise the poor and homeless and uneducated?
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  1556. That's messed up.
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  1557. Stop blaming poor people, blame greedy corporations who want to depress wages.
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  1558. Epic
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  1559. You're correct
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  1560. The problem is more fundamental than that. Republicans believe the rich should receive everything of value because they provide everything of value. Where as The poor should receive nothing of value because they provide nothing of value.
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  1561.  @therecalcitrantseditionist3613  1. all priorities are not created equal. 2. Every decision has a trade-off. 3. If ensuring livable wages was the top priority, then all other priorities would pay the price. 4. Blame corporations for depressing wages and exerting control.
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  1562. Holy crap
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  1563. @PogO  not really. Walmart could make $5 trillion in profits per store every nanosecond, and their cashiers would still be on food stamps.
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  1564. Is it a surprise that those two things are what most Americans are indebted to?
    4
  1565.  @Contrarymary-pc9hm  exactly.
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  1566.  @TheRealLesterGreen  but they don't make enough to do that...
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  1567.  @SplinteredX  food service is a poor career path
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  1568. Yes.
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  1569. Technically, all rights require the labor of others to enforce.
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  1570. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. If we're unwilling to accept the risks in reforming Healthcare, we do not truly want to reform it.
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  1571. @cindyp5132  yes. It's funny when poor people want more money, they get demonized, but rich people wanting more money is fine.
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  1572.  @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty  the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept.
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  1573.  @spiritofgoldfish  exactly.
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  1574. Because many people believe only certain jobs are worthy. Only some people are valuable. A doctor making $1 million a year? No big deal. A McDonald's worker making $50k a year? Is like legalizing armed robbery.
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  1575.  @libertybell5796  what? That's the fallacy of relative privation. Just because things can be worse is no valid reason for why things can't or shouldn't be better. That would be like me as a police chief stating that my police force has an 80% clearance rate with crime, where other cities have a lower clearance rate. It's true that my Police Department could do worse but that is no valid reason for why we shouldn't aim to do better(100% clearance rate)or why we should just stop trying at all.
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  1576.  @libertybell5796  wages are within human control, wages are not like the weather.
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  1577.  @libertybell5796  you're ignoring my point so we're done here.
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  1578. Until the 1980s there was higher profit sharing thanks to unions. Without the government providing a living wage or higher profit sharing, most money goes to corporate overlords.
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  1579. Most poor adults work. Working means nothing if you make 7.25 an hour or can't afford healthcare.
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  1580.  @HighPriestessEmpressVibes  you're correct. I rely on welfare and charity programs in order to survive.
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  1581. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty. Rich people have no interest in ending poverty because poverty forces people to accept minimum wage jobs.
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  1582. Conservatives believing in Calvinism as always.
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  1583. In other words people believe only some jobs are "worthy" of giving you a decent life.
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  1584. Exactly
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  1585. Because politicians have no desire to end poverty.
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  1586.  @bambicrandi  well... I have alot of self work to do. I can't expect women to date me when I'm not independent nor do I even go out in public often.
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  1587.  @bambicrandi  good news/follow up: I'm taking a math class at a community College. 2. I'm in a mathematics-physics internship(at the same College). 3. I work as a cashier part-time at a grocery store. 1 year ago I was a NEET who just played video games and watched movies daily, so I've made alot of progress. I also got a scholarship to afford one additional semester of school.
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  1588.  @dbarker7794  I want Fox news to interview cashiers about minimum wage and not just business owners
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  1589. Correct.
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  1590.  @meganegan5992  because the point of denying benefits isn't about saving money, it's about enforcing punitive justice.
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  1591. you can't. That's why welfare spending surpasses $1 trillion annually.
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  1592. The belief is based on Calvinism. And equating economic and moral value.
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  1593. Biden can use an executive order to severely limit the size of corporations and dismantle the wealth of corporations and billionaires.
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  1594. Any woman can get laid, it's just a matter of lowering her standards. That isn't the case for straight men, otherwise I wouldn’t be an HHKV at 28.
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  1595. Hookers don't offer genuine affection
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  1596. " if you don't give the rich more money, they'll lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they've lost their incentive to invest because we've given them too much money."
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  1597. Is this a good first car to have?
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  1598. It's always the rich saying keep the minimum wage low, I never hear a minimum wage worker say it.
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  1599.  @patrickbateman529  taxes from the rich fund education anyway. The tax system is designed to deliver money from The rich to the poor. You're right government can provide free college. But guess what? It doesn't.
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  1600. What you're saying is you're more upset over not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage.
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  1601. poverty is a policy choice. However, politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  1602. Exactly. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office or fight the rich
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  1603. I'm replying to you Antonio: I won't give up. I know I can get an associate degree in four years, even though I'm starting over. I know I can get a bachelor's of science in the following two years too. I must rely on myself and not expect government assistance.
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  1604. I believe you. I'm changing my life. I'm 29 year old incel.
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  1605. I'm 29 years old I've never experienced sex, kissing, holding hands, or hugging.
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  1606.  @Dennis-nc3vw  fallacy of relative privation
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  1607. except politicans have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  1608. If it helps the poor.
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  1609. It was beautiful.
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  1610. Good old Calvinism is alive and well, I see?
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  1611. Wow
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  1612. Politicians believe you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  1613. They want control and power.
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  1614. @jackhammer4396  you believe in just-world fallacy because not everyone is capable of becoming a doctor. It isn't just about hard work. In relation to college We know full well that America is full of hardworking people who are kept poor by very low wages and harsh circumstances. We know many who want a job can’t find one, and many of the jobs people can find are cruel in ways that would appall anyone sitting comfortably behind a desk. We know the absence of child care and affordable housing and decent public transit makes work, to say nothing of advancement, impossible for many. We know people lose jobs they value because of mental illness or physical disability or other factors beyond their control. We are not so naïve as to believe near-poverty and joblessness to be a comfortable condition or an attractive choice.
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  1615.  @arachnofiend2859  coastal elite? That's a joke...right?
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  1616.  @pettyofficer30  $24/hr may be great if homes weren't $450,000 and above. If tuition wasn't $18,000/yr.
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  1617.  @JodyLuvsHumanity777  okay. I'll...stay on path.
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  1618.  @Ss4luis1992ad  he is but the truth surprises me frequently.
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  1619. Most politicians are rich and thus have no vested interest in helping the poor and disabled.
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  1620. I literally had a nerdgasm at his viewership ratings.
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  1621. The idea that if you just work hard everything will turn out fine, is a classic example of the just-world fallacy.
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  1622. I used take 3 classes at 2 different colleges, worked as a cashier, was an intern, volunteered, and helped take care of my family. I was and am still a virgin.
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  1623. He isn't powerless
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  1624. So conservatives preach Family values, but are massive projecting hypocrites. Republicans oppose abortion, welfare, living wage, free school lunches But are pro death penalty, military spending, and corporate lobbying. They want women to be forced to have kids but also oppose providing funding for kids once they are born.
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  1625. Wtf
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  1626. it's a mixture of just world fallacy, calvinism, and being an other wallet warrior.
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  1627. @MH-ro1lg  it isn't the government. It's about priorities. It's about what we value the most. If our government or corporations truly prioritized providing healthcare for everyone, everyone would have Healthcare.
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  1628.  @optricks2469  they use smoke and mirrors to conceal their fundamental belief that some jobs have value and others do not. CEOs make millions yearly and Republicans always say they make too little, whereas cashiers make 30,000 a year and they're making too much.
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  1629.  @optricks2469  because Republicans don't want to admit they're cowards. And you're putting words in my mouth. I never claimed all jobs are equally valuable I said they believe some jobs have no value at all. Yes it's obvious a CEO has more value than a janitor but they believe a CEO provides limitless value and a janitor provides no value at all. if they truly believed all jobs were valuable then we would not be in this debacle with low wages because politicians would simply pass laws to raise everyone's wages and deal with the repercussions, whatever they might be.
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  1630. Look up ezra klein what the rich don't want to admit about the poor.
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  1631. In his mind, he's right. Rich people think that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  1632. As long as it's not their own kid.
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  1633.  @Abcq755  he said exactly that, too.
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  1634. It's like they want poor people to die or something.
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  1635. ​ @cassady7169  acting is a job that can be done by children as well. Not only do actors make more than minimum wage, they make more than doctors. I don't see anyone disrespecting them.
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  1636. @Cassady  you can be an actor without a college degree or training certification. My point is that we assign subjective value to workers. The minimum wage debate is about status, not economics.
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  1637. @Cassady  1. Poverty is a policy choice. It isn't a universal law of nature like gravity. USA government can end poverty. It simply isn't among their priorities. 2. My bad 3. Again, why not just draw the line at paying above poverty? That's not arbitrarily drawing a line.
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  1638.  @dianacasey6002  I cry about that
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  1639. You can't buy intimacy. I'm still an incel if the sex requires money
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  1640. It's to enforce punitive justice
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  1641.  @anunknownperson4018  that's terrible.
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  1642. ​@GrandmaCathy yes. That is true. Most women I want to be with don't like sci-fi or anime. Or don't want to drive me around.
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  1643. Wow.
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  1644. @col.cottonhill6655  if gun ownership is a right how can gun permits be revoked? How come felons and mentally ill people are barred from owning guns?
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  1645.  @irrationalmale  not for all poor people. In my state Medicaid expansion was denied so any poor people that had no children or disabilities was ineligible for Medicaid. No matter how low their income. So I lost Medicaid a while back.
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  1646. Since my mom died from welfare being restricted, and i have no way to escape poverty myself, I don't vote. No politician supports the poor.
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  1647.  @dariussonofjazzlin7433  oh that's cool!
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  1648.  @drdr76  it's just..here's my take on poverty: we believe women can vote so ensure they can vote. that's it. our society is structured around that simple fact. wages are the same way. wages are not like the weather, something you observe and predict but cannot control. if we truly believed no worker deserved to be poor then no worker would be poor. that's it. our society would be structured around that simple fact. a living wage would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. it's political policies and choices, not impersonal market forces, as to why poverty wages have persisted. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  1649. It's a quiet way of Republicans saying poverty is not a problem.
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  1650. LOL in the 70s many union jobs didn't even require a high school degree. You could literally be a high school dropout and make enough to support a family and pay for a house.
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  1651. Lol
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  1652. Messed up.
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  1653.  @jankjaws9815  let's put it another way. He had to work about 680 hours then. At the current minimum wage he would have to work 5600 hours now.
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  1654.  @bbo7002  thank you
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  1655. ​ @vladimirofsvalbard9477 inflation is an acceptable risk. You deem rising worker power, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  1656.  @thechimpchannel2230  agreed. If i was offered $40 million to lie daily I'd do it.
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  1657. Sounds good.
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  1658. that isn't true. corporations increase inflation to strip workers of their increased bargaining power they gained from the labor shortage from the pandemic.
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  1659. ​ @wilcee238 lol yep.
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  1660. I've blamed myself and I'm still a Virgin at 27.
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  1661. Exactly
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  1662.  @michelleespino9814  I lost my food stamps because of the reinstated work requirements- I don't work while pursuing my degree, the jobs and internships would all pay near minimum wage and not offer food banks or health insurance. My dad buys groceries for me, I will have to use food banks soon. I feel useless having to impoverish myself in order to get a degree, including not having a car. But in four years I'll finally be able to thrive. Then I will be ready to pursue a PhD in astrophysics.
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  1663.  @Rowsy91  nobody should be in poverty, no matter what job they work.
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  1664.  @Rowsy91  I don't recall asking for a lavish lifestyle on minimum wage, just that people aren't in poverty
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  1665. He didn't want sex you had to pay for.
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  1666. I'm not paying for sex.
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  1667. You're cruel
    4
  1668. With inflation the minimum wage should be $45.
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  1669. ​ @laiila_ksa I used tinder for 5 years to no avail. I'm still a virgin. It's mainly because I'm poor.
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  1670. Oh Ohio shop Pizza owner evenly split a day's gross sales with his employees: each worker made $78/hr. If places like Chic Fil A adopted this model, their cashiers would be making around $100,000/year.
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  1671. Lol.
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  1672. pay senators minimum wage, food stamps, medicaid, and section 8 housing. they'd hang themselves in six hours.
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  1673. @Socialpsychotics  Because you aren't seeing the real reason, he says that: just-world fallacy. The truth is many people view being a billionaire or business owner as proof of having "worked hard enough to succeed." So when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. Where as poor people haven't "worked hard enough to get here." Thus, any government help they receive is a "handout."
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  1674. Because it's about deservedness. People look down on minimum wage workers.
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  1675.  @ASUV3323  exactly LOLOL. Constitutional rights are not physical laws of nature like gravity.
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  1676. ​@Church of POS that's messed up.
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  1677. Yep
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  1678. ​ @Skateandcreate9 yep. It's evil.
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  1679.  @FlyingDwarfman  yes. Because the deeper message is our political system creates poverty.
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  1680. She doesn't care about them.
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  1681. Lol
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  1682. The problem is war doesn't take a smoke break. No problem does.
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  1683. That would abolish 99% of corporations. After the financial crash of 2008 money was spent to still not regulate realtor/hedge funds so they could keep siphoning off money.
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  1684.  @Zombub  Cassady is a right wing troll.
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  1685. @Charlotte_Martel  this is a moral issue to him, not economic: he believes only skilled workers deserve a decent life. He thinks minimum wage workers are worthless.
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  1686.  @Zombub  that's the problem: since cashiers are easily replaced, he believes the job isn't WORTH a living wage.
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  1687.  @KeekeOrb  yep
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  1688. It is sad. But Republicans believe some workers deserve poverty. I'm making $10.50/hr as a cashier.
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  1689. ​ @carlbowles1808 wow.
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  1690. We'd have an $80/hr minimum wage
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  1691. yep. you have to be rich to afford a home.
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  1692.  @mamaray8903  you realize that would make politicians cry AND raise minimum wage to $50/hr?
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  1693. ​@Comedic Farce that's messed up
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  1694. Welfare pays more than work, so many people choose to remain unemployed rather than work shitty jobs.
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  1695.  @PatriotUSA1776USA  except college costs money that no minimum wage job could cover.
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  1696.  @PatriotUSA1776USA  Because not wanting to be a slave= wanting to be handed everything? Get real.
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  1697. No. I'm an incel, but I'm happy for him getting laid! I believe everyone deserves compassion and help!
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  1698. That's messed up
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  1699. that's messed up and i had never heard of deontology until i read this comment.
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  1700. Wow
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  1701. Implement the NFL model, 50% goes to employees, 50% to executives. By the way, if that was implemented then workers at chic Fil A that make millions of dollars at each location would be paying their cashiers around $100,000/year.
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  1702. It's called survivorship bias.
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  1703. because corporations abandoned the profit sharing model decades ago when Reagan busted unions.
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  1704. Gravitational waves.
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  1705. Trillions of dollars have been spent on health insurance subsidies and tax cuts for the rich. It is in our power to wipe out poverty. It is simply not among their priorities.
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  1706.  @DonVigaDeFierro  My standards are 0 and I'm still a Virgin at 27
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  1707. Correct.
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  1708. Republicans lack humanity
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  1709.  @QuantumAscension1  i love how fox news interviews rich people and billionaires 24/7, but will NEVER interview the working poor or homeless on the state of the economy.
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  1710. Poverty must exist to make these people rich
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  1711. Yep
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  1712. I'd feel rich if I made $21 an hour. Not that that would be anywhere near enough to buy a house here but still.
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  1713.  @jesse_-  that was decades ago...
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  1714. Yep.
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  1715.  @talyahr3302  raleigh mayor owns a $2.1 million home while I live with my dad at nearly 30 because the average rent is $2,000/month, plus I can't afford health care without medicaid.
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  1716. We need a new progressive news media channel.
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  1717. Because they view poor people as undeserving of having kids.
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  1718. I love that it is always people with 24/7 armed security saying every day people have no need to defend themselves.
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  1719. I cry reading this. My NC legislative branch opposed tax increases that would've made community college tuition free. I'm a very poor, self-supporting community college student. Without scholarships, I can't finish my associate's degree (since I lost financial aid). And even with financial aid, community College STILL costs money.
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  1720. Yes!!!
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  1721. Conservatives oppose policies that help the poor.
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  1722.  @splendidcolors  that's messed up
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  1723.  @dlight9849  it's EVIL
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  1724.  @BatMan-oe2gh  so... I am saying most governments spend money on welfare to counteract poverty. Without welfare poverty would skyrocket
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  1725.  @deez3913  it's about priorities. If our government truly thought these healthcare costs were unacceptable, they'd be willing to take such severe risks to lower them.
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  1726. Correct. I'm a cashier Making $10/hr because with just a high school diploma I have no career prospects.
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  1727. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  1728. Tuition can be controlled too.
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  1729. Except welfare isn't about the costs, but emotions. Many people believe rich people deserve government assistance but not the poor.
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  1730.  @ZaShiesty  idk how either part of that statement is true. You proved my point though, many people believe poor people don't deserve government assistance.
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  1731. I want a special punishment for rich people and CEOs: being in poverty forever, with no welfare given to make up the difference. Forcefully confiscate all of their wealth and force them to work, making $.7.25/hr, for the rest of their lives.
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  1732. ​ @Wicked_Knight hahaha
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  1733. It's more like 140 million people in poverty according to the poor people's campaign.
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  1734. Exactly.
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  1735. I did not know this. That's messed up.
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  1736.  @tonywilson4713  in usa healthcare has no price caps or central regulatory bodies, which drives up prices.
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  1737. It's why fast food is terrible and stressful to work in.
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  1738.  @momof4121  the reason the limits are so low is because politicians want to make poverty seem rare and thus an individual moral problem, rather than a systemic one.
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  1739. Yep
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  1740.  @mrrationalhippie  i've been lazy and scared. but i will stop letting fear control me.
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  1741. What's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor? Getting government money
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  1742. Because the point of loans us to perpetuate poverty.
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  1743. Exactly ​ @dividedstatesofamerica2520 
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  1744. Ezra Klein wrote a nytimes post on this. He basically said the real political problem with a guaranteed minimum income isn't the costs, but the benefits. Workers could reject dead-end job offers. No one would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement. People would be more selective about the types of jobs they would work, if they would work at all. Corporations couldn't control workers anymore.
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  1745. They pay most of the taxes because the rich make MOST OF THE GOD DAMN MONEY. The bottom 50% of wage earners in this country possess less than 3% of the nation's wealth. It's technically no wealth at all, if you count debt to income ratio.
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  1746. If you tax corporations two to five times the amount their employees used in welfare benefits things would change in a hurry.
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  1747. Correct
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  1748. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. Our political values and choices are most clearly revealed by the boundaries we set—particularly by the risks we're unwilling to take. In other words, the issues or changes we avoid, the policies we oppose, or the groups we’re hesitant to support may say as much, or even more, about our beliefs than the stances we openly advocate. For example, if a society resists risk-taking on issues like climate action due to economic concerns, that may reveal a deeper priority for immediate economic stability over long-term environmental sustainability. Similarly, if people reject policies aimed at wealth redistribution, it could reflect a preference for individual economic freedom over collective welfare. By examining the "risks we refuse to accept," we can better understand what values, fears, and priorities truly drive our politics. It’s often in these areas of resistance where the core truths about political beliefs and societal values come to light.
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  1749.  @Bloodskaal00  you're right
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  1750.  @Bloodskaal00  exactly. Politicians want poverty to exist.
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  1751. ​ @dontmisunderstand6041 exactly
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  1752. Racism
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  1753. Yep.
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  1754. It won't get passed because that would empower workers to reject minimum wage jobs.
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  1755. Myth of meritocracy.
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  1756. Yep
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  1757. Yep.
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  1758. That's what you don't understand. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  1759. Exactly.
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  1760. Yep
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  1761. Yep
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  1762. Yep
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  1763. @bane3991  I'm glad WE agree. But I'm trying to tell you that the politicians in charge of this country do NOT find poverty unacceptable. If they found poverty or denying women reproductive rights unacceptable, politicians would accept whatever consequences in fighting against such situations.
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  1764.  @mak88119  then you're more upset over not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage
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  1765. It's about priorities. It is in our power to wipe out poverty. It is simply not among our priorities.
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  1766. It's simple: 1. Worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once. 2. The truth to our values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corrupt leaders find unacceptable. Republicans hate welfare for 2 reasons 1. They morally oppose policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class 2. Poor people will not work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  1767. LOL.
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  1768. Jesse doesn't know this
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  1769. The economic reason is simple: Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. If no poverty existed or could exist in America, no one would EVER work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with 0 benefits or chance for advancement. No one would ever accept jobs that they know can't pay their bills.
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  1770. In short, doctors can reject minimum wage jobs, poor people can't, and if they have the power to do so, politicians would want to keep them in place with poverty.
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  1771.  @Xandrosi  that's amazing. Unfortunately, many Republicans oppose policies that help poor people become middle class.
    4
  1772. Exactly
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  1773. ​ @debbiehenri345  I make $10.50 an hour as a cashier. My raise after 6 months was $0.50. That means I get less than a dime raise per month.
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  1774. @Dr. John  You speak my language brother. Working at a grocery store offers minimum wage, zero benefits, or chance for career advancement. Plus nowhere near enough money to pursue college. I know I need to put in the work to escape minimum wage. I'm in two colleges at once now, plus I do an internship. I hope to get a full ride scholarship and become a physicist one day.
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  1775. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. I got a $0.50 raise after 6 months. I'm kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits. Screw America for thinking poverty is acceptable.
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  1776. Fox News needs to interview poor people on the state of the economy.
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  1777.  @The92Waffles  ok. Well I'm in community College. Do a mathematics-physics internship. And work as a cashier. I hope to finish school, get a huge scholarship, and long-term become an astrophysicist.
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  1778.  @noclue4108  yes. Sounds like a good plan brother
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  1779. @Darkpara1  that's the rich doing the partying but they go to private schools anyway. You can't force students to only pursue certain degrees.
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  1780. @AnnLinky  the government provides welfare for people who don't make enough money to live, and corporations will not support a living wage. It's circular logic.
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  1781. It needs to be written in the constitution that one job must pay enough for people to not be in poverty. Enough for them to live a healthy and humane life. That means a living wage and benefits.
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  1782. It needs to be written in the constitution, that one job must pay enough to people to not be in poverty. Enough to live a healthy and humane life.
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  1783. Politicians have the power to abolish poverty. However, it is not among their priorities.
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  1784. Yes.
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  1785. You have to be able to afford a prostitute. And you can't buy intimacy, so you're still incel
    4
  1786. Exactly.
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  1787.  @joemama-cf7sj  funny they can criticize the poor not being poor themselves.
    4
  1788. ​ @50jakecs  LOL.
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  1789.  @Gooddaylasvegas365  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
    4
  1790. That's crazy.
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  1791. @nicklibby3784  that's messed up
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  1792. I do not want therapy. I just want to lose my virginity. I'm nearly 30 years old.
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  1793. If the multiverse is real, there's a universe out there like this.
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  1794. ​​ @IAMGiftbearer  And there is my other point: speaking of the raw numbers subsidizing rich people and businesses is far more expensive than subsidizing the poor and disabled. If your taxes go to pay for my tuition or food or housing that's far less than what goes to Elon musk's Tesla.
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  1795.  @mmason9836  I don't recall asking for free As?
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  1796.  @mattosgood28  ? Maybe the argument I'm making is nobody should have to suffer. Why wouldn't you argue for there to be more scholarships/financial assistance, rather than bragging about how many people suffered without them?
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  1797. Poverty is seen as deserved.
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  1798.  @jadegreenleaf781  poverty shaming is disgusting.
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  1799. @Turkey_Hill  almost all other countries have universal health insurance.
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  1800. @Turkey_Hill  medical care costs money, as does everything else. Medical care costing money is not the true source of opposition to universal health care.
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  1801. @jadegreenleaf781  there's a double standard in USA. Poor people are expected to be shamed for doing better but not the rich. The poor are expected to suffer endlessly for minimal rewards but the rich receive limitless money for minimal effort.
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  1802. Something destroyed Howard's soul.
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  1803. Correct.
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  1804. I'm poor. 43% of the population is poor or low-income. As long as both parties ignore the poor, I will not vote.
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  1805. I'm an incel myself. I refuse prostitutes because the affection isn't genuine.
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  1806. I overhype sex too much.
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  1807.  @coldhaven1233  I know. But my point is even trade degrees cost too much. And community colleges don't cover any living expenses, unlike four year schools, so it's harder in a way
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  1808. ​ @waltlock8805  you work minimum wage while pursuing your degree.
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  1809. I can't afford a one bedroom apartment because I'd need to make $72,000/year while going to college
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  1810. Except he believes minimum wage workers deserve poverty and CEOs deserve their millions
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  1811. If he cancels 50k and let's say your student loans are 20K does that mean you get 30k to pursue College?
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  1812. Fucked up, isn't it?
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  1813.  @michelmoreno8233  So you agree?
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  1814.  @bradmyers5354  Exactly.
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  1815.  @2906justblaze  being vp doesn't stop your public support or opposition to something, or using tie breaking votes as leverage. Or anything else.
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  1816.  @UnpopularComment  yep
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  1817. Hello, that is the problem. The fact you had to go to Community College means you did it because University is too damn expensive!!
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  1818. Holy crap
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  1819. It's about priorities
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  1820.  @custos3249  that's messed up. I feel bad and good that I'm not alone.
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  1821. Democrats passed a $1.9 trillion covid spending bill without any Republican support, Democrats could've passed minimum wage hikes, guaranteed minimum income, abolishment of at will and right to work laws, as well.
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  1822. It's about priorities. Politicians don't prioritize ensuring healthcare to everyone.
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  1823. Epic.
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  1824.  @JoeyJoe-JoeJrShabadoo  exactly
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  1825. they DO know. they don't care because these politicans don't rely on social security themselves.
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  1826. Yep.
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  1827. Either inflation has to go way down or wages have to go way up.
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  1828. Ok
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  1829. Corporations don't want workers having more bargaining power.
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  1830. He'd cry.
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  1831. How about we have a new Bill of Rights. One job must pay enough to people for them to not be in poverty, otherwise the job doesn't deserve to exist.
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  1832. @julesdalli9716  College debt exists because 1. It builds wealth for rich people 2. Lock poor people out of college who would outperform rich people
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  1833.  @RedHeart64  it sucks. That's why literally 73% of hourly workers in my state are part-time. I'm a cashier. If I was full-time I'd get pto, paid sick leave, paid family leave, paid vacation, and 401k.
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  1834. Manipulating gravity is one of 3 technologies you need to achieve interstellar travel/create a starship.
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  1835. @SocialTourist  you hit the nail on the head on why ubi won't work- workers would not accept wage slavery. I can't imagine a country where welfare and financing/consumer debt don't exist. But if all workers could reject jobs they don't like, that is the reality.
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  1836. @jamilahrazzaq8780  many people make poverty wages who aren't teens. Many people who go through college work minimum wage jobs. Not everyone can afford college or trade school. Someone has to work these jobs.
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  1837. Holy crap
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  1838. Poor people can't afford to run for office
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  1839.  @sup9542  I used tinder for years to no avail. I even paid for tinder once.
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  1840. Yep
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  1841.  @Bradley-nn8it  that made me angry as well.
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  1842. Yep.
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  1843.  @JayJayM57  he believes poor people don't deserve government assistance
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  1844.  @antonio83  right, but I'm pointing out that makes me incel.
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  1845.  @charlesw5919  thanks. Idk why people worship the rich.
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  1846.  @waltergrace565  not really but ok
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  1847.  @DarkFlamesDarkness  if welfare pays more than a minimum wage job, then not working is acceptable.
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  1848. Exactly Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  1849. exactly.
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  1850. So they were supposed to do nothing?
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  1851.  @johnlast6066  entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  1852.  @NormalDarkCat  I'm sorry you went through that.
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  1853. My replies are gone. Looks like I can't post anymore
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  1854. If something is a right, how can you restrict it at all?
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  1855.  @CaptainDupes  there should. I guess rights comes with responsibilities, otherwise there is chaos
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  1856.  @GolemRising  yep LOL. I can't even reply to my own comments
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  1857. You are correct. Too bad politicians are too heartless to care.
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  1858.  @ass4sale2  and? half of wage earners make $30k a year or less. What difference does it make what job you get if it pays you literal pennies?
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  1859. ​ @barto4678 that's messed up
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  1860.  @TheElitegamer23  i can't join military
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  1861.  @MrBojangles-of3bs  exactly!!! Yes, if I made $600,000 a year I could focus on school and nothing else!! But I need rent, food, etc. And community college campuses are so far away I can't go in person. It's a two hour bus ride each way
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  1862. Reading that made me cry.
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  1863.  @Jay.the.goblinking  exactly. Taking the bus to campus would be 1.5 hours ONE WAY. vs 20 minutes with a car. Spending three hours each day on the bus would leave no time to study. I can't afford rent at $2k a month, your income must be three times to qualify So I must somehow make $72,000/year to have a one bedroom apartment?
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  1864. He means free...to pay employees peanuts.
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  1865. My mom passed away and my supermarket forced me to return to work 1 week later since I both lived in an at will state and had no benefits.
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  1866. 60% of jobs pay less than $50k.
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  1867. I make $8.50/hr working at McDonald's
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  1868.  @mytruecrimelibrary  thanks
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  1869.  @davidjohn6913  LOL.
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  1870. If the bottom line was everyone deserved a living wage...then everyone would have one.
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  1871.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  maybe it's due to a 7.25/hr minimum wage?
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  1872. The employees get laid off anyway.
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  1873. I'm 29 now. If I'm a virgin when I turn 30, my life is in shambles.
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  1874. Exactly
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  1875. I'm sorry to hear that. I lost food stamps and HUD, I only have crappy medicaid now.
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  1876. ​ @reasonerenlightened2456 why would you need to increase taxes or spending on social programs? What does this have to do with worker solidarity?
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  1877. ​ @libertyresearch-iu4fy you find poverty acceptable
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  1878. That's hurtful.
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  1879. Yes she is.
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  1880. $420,000/year? Why can't these hacks make minimum wage and tell us how it's easy to live off of pennies?
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  1881. ​ @DevinMacGregor I received a $0.50 raise as a cashier
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  1882. That's messed up.
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  1883. Exactly
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  1884.  @lorrie2878  I saw a video saying the friends actors make $20 million a year. Jerry Seinfeld made $900 million in 10 years from Seinfeld reruns. That's $90 million a year.
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  1885.  @lorrie2878  ok cool. I'm just amazed how much money people can make, when raising the minimum wage is so staunchly opposed
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  1886. That's evil but blame corporations
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  1887. Disgusting isn't it?
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  1888.  @ccdsds3221  poverty is a policy choice.
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  1889.  @ccdsds3221  and that's ancedotal.
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  1890. to avoid the workers becoming eligible for benefits. I should know, as a cashier I not only made $10.50/hr, but only worked 28 hours a week so i couldn't receive health insurance or PTO.
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  1891. Thank you
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  1892. $690 billion.
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  1893.  @STC987  Imagine me receiving a $2 billion scholarship THEN I tell the American public that universities receive over half a TRILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN THAT. EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.
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  1894. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  1895. Different degrees of incels. Also, women don't have as hard of a time obtaining sex as men. Otherwise, women would use prostitution as much as men do.
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  1896. @dand3975  you are correct. But the problem is while pursuing such degrees many people are relegated to minimum wage jobs. And not everyone can afford college, especially In USA which has neither free college nor universal health care.
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  1897. It is yes. 43% of the population is poor or low-income
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  1898. That is Depressing.
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  1899. Yep
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  1900.  @007kingifrit  poverty exists because politicans want it to exist.
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  1901. The point is for people to not have healthcare
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  1902. Don't forget some states deny Medicaid expansion. So anyone 25 or older can't receive medicaid no matter their income.
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  1903. If they are childless or not disabled
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  1904. That made my blood boil.
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  1905. They also don't count being enrolled in higher education as work, so I would lose my Medicaid while going to school.
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  1906.  @Valspartame_Maelstrom  Calvinism is a branch of Christianity.
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  1907.  @Valspartame_Maelstrom  yep.
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  1908. ​@@karlwithak.Be quiet
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  1909. ​ @WhoopityDoo poverty.
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  1910. I'm on Medicaid because I can't afford marketplace insurance
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  1911.  @galerae947  good god.
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  1912.  @galerae947  to pay off in state tuition in the same time people in the 80s did I would need to make $73/hr.
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  1913. That's evil
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  1914.  @dontmisunderstand6041  poverty is a policy choice.
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  1915.  @wolfstar_productions  you don't need higher taxes. Taxes are used to create a demand for USA currency not fund the federal government.
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  1916.  @TheDivayenta  would you be upset at these 3 things 1. 100% student loan debt canceling 2. Tuition free public universities and trade schools 3. Additional funding for poor students Let's say poor students could get a loan or grant that covered living expenses.
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  1917. Power is why corporations hate unions and welfare- because poor people can reject wage slavery.
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  1918.  @silentIypraying  you believe being incel is a choice.
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  1919. That's evil
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  1920. Welfare empowers the poor
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  1921. @justsomeguy6336  poverty is a policy choice
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  1922.  @Yutani_Crayven  i agree with 25/ hr then. Also that 4.5 trillion bailout for the rich could've provided a middle class home for all poor people in the country.
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  1923.  @baconcerberus  I'm not against rich people but it disgusts me politicians judge the status of the country only by how the rich are doing and not the poor, or even middle class.
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  1924.  @austinwilliams3448  it is slavery. When millions of people can be cashiers, there is too high of a supply of labor, employers can bid wages down.
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  1925. My poverty causes me to be incel.
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  1926. Greed.
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  1927. Employers and employees don't want the same thing. It isn't sex where both parties care about each other's well being.
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  1928. I cried reading that. I go to two year school, without financial aid, it costs $5,000/semester. I got a scholarship but I had to attend school part time because it wasn't enough. I lost Pell grants, and the other educational grant I receive had the new requirements of good grades and 50% degree completion to qualify, screwing me over. Public schools are $20k a year Private schools average $40,000/year. Some costs $60,000/year And that is just tuition
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  1929. Disabled people are seen as worthless as well.
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  1930. You can't buy intimacy.
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  1931. That's messed up
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  1932.  @zoomzoom3950  good luck paying for college, a $100k price tag, while working minimum wage.
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  1933. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier at a supermarket. I received no pathway to promotion. No way to pay for college.
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  1934.  @Saliferous  it's messed up.
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  1935.  @OllamhDrab  it's evil
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  1936.  @peopleofearth6250  sounds like a plan
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  1937.  @Joyride37  nobody should have to earn their way out of poverty
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  1938.  @JathraDH  nobody wants to be in poverty. People would only choose welfare over work if working is a terrible alternative. Even if Welfare paid $3,000 a month, that would not compete with the salaries of doctors(or their ambition beyond the money) or billionaires. I do understand poverty. There will always be a lower class, but they don't have to be poor in an absolute sense. Just because some make less than others, doesn't mean some people must or should lack basic necessities.
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  1939.  @cursorguy  thank you. I'm glad you stick with me. It must've seemed like I was rambling.
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  1940. I'm all of those girls besides out of shape.
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  1941. I cried reading that.
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  1942.  @voulafisentzidis8830  exactly. It's about power and control.
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  1943. If you are middle class or rich, you deserve to have a family. If you're poor, you need to be reminded that you're a failure or die off. Republican ideology 101
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  1944.  @ricomajestic  Why would that be a bad thing?
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  1945. ​ @briangarrow448  he is an other wallet warrior. He believes he has the right to tell others how much they should make.
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  1946.  @CassTyson  that's worse
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  1947.  @Tim_Gagnon  yes. President of the United States getting $400k/yr salary in a $400 million house while 80% of the country struggles.
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  1948. I'm on medicaid because I'm poor. Since higher education doesn't offer healthcare. The problem is I can't have an income above $20,000/year or wealth of $2,000.
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  1949. It's called survivorship bias.
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  1950. Except not everyone can "do more" for various reasons. If walmart made $5 trillion in profits every nanosecond, they wouldn't pay their cashiers $60/hr.
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  1951. @Dan Corkill  so you're insulting these cashiers now? Actors can be children yet they make millions. What you're really looking down on them for is status. You believe some people have no value. And if, regardless of profits generated, walmart would pay their workers the same pittance, that is wrong.
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  1952. And politicians call us lazy. While they make 275k a year.
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  1953.  @margaretwordnerd5210  you are correct.
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  1954. Money goes to the rich and Powerful, too much money cannot go to the poor to help them get out of poverty altogether. Because without poverty our economy collapses
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  1955.  @TakenTook  the problem is A. Healthcare isn't a right to many politicians B. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  1956. Politicians do not want to end poverty. Without the existence or threat of poverty, no one would accept low-wage jobs
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  1957.  @JimClark2005  Would you watch a sports game where if you miss a goal you get more points than if you made it? Effort would still matter in the game and you could still try harder, but effort alone wouldn't contribute to your success. It's the same thing with this stupid idea that if you work hard you'll be fine.
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  1958.  @itsjustavi  I have access to a bus and Uber. But the Uber costs too much. It costs $50 to travel to/from work one time/shift when I make $46 that same shift. Using Uber costs $80 to go to/from campus when I make $60/week. If I had classes in person, and I went to campus 5 days a week, I literally would have to make $400-$500 a week to afford Uber.
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  1959. I've asked women for sex and been rejected.
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  1960.  @kevchard5214  I would support that too. What do you think of my proposals?
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  1961. She'd make $8.50 an hour too. One of her purses is $400,000. She has hundreds of them.
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  1962. Wow
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  1963. Exactly.
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  1964.  @omarthescriblomale8279  not everyone can get a higher paying job because there aren't enough high paying jobs to go around and not everyone can afford college. Not everyone can start a business either.
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  1965. I thought public schools are funded primarily by property taxes....
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  1966.  @longshadowb1275  beautiful to hear. I'm saddened by what has happened today.
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  1967. Yep
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  1968. My poverty makes me socially inept.
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  1969. I agree with you but Conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage. My theory why we don't have a living wage is because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. if doctors were demanding to make $15 an hour Congress would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status.
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  1970. You are correct.
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  1971.  @3SonsRC  all change has a price
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  1972.  @Pixel5564  skill doesn't change the fact they're doing the exact work that allows the company to function. And skill alone doesn't determine the financial performance of a company.
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  1973. They oppose any policies that help reduce poverty. Republicans aren't actually interested in ending poverty.
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  1974. Republicans oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe minimum wage workers don't deserve to make all that money.
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  1975. ​@Traci M thank you.
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  1976. Which video did renegade cut say that in?
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  1977. you are correct. it seems you have read herbet gans functions of poverty.
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  1978. Experience is not a skill set. Only education and responsibility are skills that increase your financial earnings. And minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  1979. That's messed up
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  1980.  @davidhunternyc1  thank you brother. You give me hope.
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  1981. Epic.
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  1982. No, because MSM serves corporate interests.
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  1983. It's called the myth of meritocracy.
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  1984. I'm in poverty.
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  1985. I don't vote because politics killed my mother.
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  1986. You're more concerned with mitigating the risk of inflation than abolishing poverty
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  1987.  @hannamakela6989  yes. I'm poor and I cry.
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  1988. Yep
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  1989. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  1990. Because they love to keep the poor desperate.
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  1991. Exactly.
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  1992. That's messed up.
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  1993. Because I believe identifying as incel means you no longer desire love, but control. I'm proof of leaving the community behind. Unfortunately, other incels don't consider me as having ascended since I'm Still a virgin. So I can't get through to them.
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  1994. Because admitting that out loud makes meritocracy a shame.
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  1995. ​ @gilsonsangulukaniphiri5018 that is depressing.
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  1996. Poor people can't afford to run for office.
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  1997. @blackjock953  no. It's just money.
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  1998. At 30, after spending 12 years trying to earn a bachelor’s degree, I’m still stuck in a cycle of poverty. I had to rely on welfare and Medicaid while taking care of my sick mom, who was ill for six years before passing away. The stress of it all caused me to flunk out of school and lose my financial aid, and even though I appealed, it was denied. Losing Section 8 housing, food stamps, and my safety net left me homeless and starving, forced to depend on my dad just to survive. Now, without a car or access to work-study jobs, I can’t continue my education. Even if I get an associate’s degree, finishing a bachelor’s while still being poor would take over a decade. I feel like I lost both my mom and my 20s for nothing, and getting another supermarket job feels like admitting I’ve made no progress at all.
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  1999.  @jingbot1071  thanks. I need to remember to add CONTEXT to my comments otherwise people won't understand me. I debate poverty with people all the time. When I finally convince them that poverty exists to force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs And that many middle class people WANT MW jobs to exist They go silent or deflect.
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  2000.  @stellalegolasnevolous4666  if you're a woman, not getting laid is your fault.
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  2001.  @aisle_of_view  okay. I won't give up
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  2002.  @saadiasheikh5744  thank you. I won a scholarship covering tuition for now, but living is hard.
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  2003. I'm making $10.50/hr as a cashier and $60/week as an intern. I could make $30/hr and not be able to afford houses now.
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  2004. I wish.
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  2005. @leehalloway8787  a woman wanted to date me once, but I was lazy and never made her a priority, so she felt unwanted and moved on.
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  2006. @leehalloway8787  thank you for the hope. I haven't given up yet.
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  2007.  @leehalloway8787  you're right, brother. I will stay strong and hopeful. And not let my fears prevent me from taking chances.
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  2008. It isn't her fault that not all jobs provide decent wages and benefits.
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  2009. Jesus christ.
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  2010.  @cosmoevents21st56  at McDonald's it's over 3,000:1.
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  2011. Money The rich can afford to pay the fines
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  2012. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier at a supermarket. I made less than $500 every two weeks.
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  2013. First off. I hate when people use 40 hours as the baseline. Most minimum wage workers, such as myself, don't work 40 hours because it entitles us to benefits. I worked only 28 hours a week as a cashier, working 32 hours gives me health benefits.
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  2014. So my employers keep all their workers part-time to avoid this.
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  2015.  @seanking1775  that is survivorship bias. Also college was mostly government paid in the 50s through 70s.
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  2016. But they expect poor people to work more for less.
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  2017. ​@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty the silicon valley bank collapsed and was bailed out to the tune of $89 billion.
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  2018. ​ @MajorHickE because it's called being an other wallet warrior.
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  2019. ​ @falcon_arkaig because their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  2020.  @RatPfink66  yep
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  2021. I believe conservatives are afraid of change. They don't see the world as is. They see it as some dream world where they think they know everything about the world. To admit they do not know everything is to admit they can't control everything. Only admitting this can people begin to grow.
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  2022. But giving money to the poor is "too complicated."
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  2023. Because Americans want poverty to persist
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  2024. Yep.
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  2025. I'm a virgin at 29
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  2026. because poor people are deluded into believing they will be rich one day.
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  2027. I will never understand why poor people or immigrants vote for Republicans when they outright demonize them on national television.
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  2028. Gross
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  2029.  @Zach-ju5vi  no university is affordable to someone who is poor. And then there's the cost of books, health care, and housing that are hidden costs. And children.
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  2030.  @Zach-ju5vi  you mean loans that aren't guaranteed, have conditions that can constantly change from year to year, are too-short term, and can affect your credit score, preventing you from buying a first-time house? Useless degree? Employment problems are not the fault of any individual worker.
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  2031. Exactly
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  2032. @Martini4466  that's the fallacy of relative privation. Just because it's worse in other countries doesn't negate or lessen the magnitude of suffering here.
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  2033.  @seircj  that's messed up as well.
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  2034. I know right?
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  2035. How about they interview minimum wage workers?
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  2036. What the rich don't say out loud is they want a permanent hierarchy in society. Skilled jobs like CEOs deserve to be at the top where as "unskilled" workers deserve to be at the bottom.
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  2037.  @HaHaThatIsFunny  everyone cannot increase their skills or gain additional education. Everyone does not have the money or time to do that.
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  2038.  @ShastaBean  politicians aren't willing to do that either.
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  2039.  @Dead_Guy_Bob  so LA wants to end homelessness but they don't want to do the very thing that would end homelessness?
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  2040.  @dlewisfl  I'm still fine with forgiving their loans.
    3
  2041.  @sophiegonzales4436  incels don't want a sex worker. Those women don't want them
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  2042. Yep. I spent $40 on a single outfit at walmart. I got 6 outfits at the Good Will.
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  2043. Conservatives believe poverty and motherhood are incompatible. Thus, they oppose abortion as a way of punishing poor women for having sex they don't deserve to have. And they oppose welfare for children as a way of punishing poor women for having children they don't deserve to have.
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  2044.  @davidthompson1573  living wage. Health insurance. Pto. Paid sick leave.
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  2045.  @falconerd343  that's messed up.
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  2046. Lol
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  2047. No, no work requirements.
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  2048. Because the government doesn't want poor people and disabled people to have autonomy. The government wants a slave labor class.
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  2049. That's evil
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  2050. ​@B. M. The big difference between the two is that PPP loans help businesses. But since forgiving student loans helps poor people, that's bad.
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  2051. Legalizing prostitution will not help an incel because an incel is not an incel due to lack of sex. Their problem is wanting power and control over women.
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  2052.  @serif392  yep.
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  2053.  @jackwolowacz9382  oh ok sorry
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  2054.  @PerfectDark0  yep.
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  2055.  @granudisimo  correct.
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  2056.  @ProLaytonxPhoenix  rofl
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  2057. Okay then.
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  2058. @Boris80b  exactly. It's negotiation. Not worth. I got a $10.50/hr as a cashier. If I had my way, I would've made $78/hr.
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  2059.  @r8chlletters  I don't understand why people think poverty is acceptable.
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  2060. Yep
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  2061. They believe they can become rich like him one day.
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  2062. Yep.
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  2063. It makes me wish there were poor people leading media.
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  2064. Yep.
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  2065.  @paulbonilla1250  correct. every lobbyist and politican who lobbies should receive a life sentence.
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  2066.  @paulbonilla1250  Just because I didn't mention Trump doesn't mean I like him. the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. I dislike every president who is alive today because of their unwillingness to combat poverty alone. I also dislike the massive welfare (bailout, tax cuts, etc) given to the rich that conservatives never whine about. I dislike the War on Drugs, homelessness, student loan debt, and many other things. Just because I mention one thing about Joe Biden and what he did does not mean I condone everyone and everything else.
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  2067. It's about priorities.
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  2068. that makes me angry.
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  2069. ​ @kirglow4639 that Is worse.
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  2070. Yes. It's about priorities.
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  2071. Because Canadian government cares more about ending poverty.
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  2072. ​ @WarrenPeaceOG funding corporate subsidies, bank bailouts, and endless wars.
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  2073.  @shine-on-tv8082  correct.
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  2074. Yes. You are correct.
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  2075.  @albenmurcia4716  that's messed up.
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  2076. The problem is conservatives believe minimum wage workers don't deserve to make a living wage. No matter how much the CEO makes, this core belief won't change
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  2077. @18booma  but the problem in this country is of values, not scarcity. Fighting for something implies that someone else is fighting against me as well. The problem is that my government does not support all workers having solidarity. This video is proof that worker solidarity, not continued poverty, is what is deemed as unacceptable.
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  2078.  @Mydogslove2laugh  I don't want to be a cashier forever. But there are millions of workers, in and outside of minimum wage, that get denied benefits. This country is pure evil.
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  2079. Yep
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  2080. But I'm still sad I'm a virgin
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  2081. @VancouverInvestor  not seize their wealth. Raise the minimum wage.
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  2082.  @FoldedCloak  I'm in America. More specifically, North Carolina. It's $7.25/hour here.
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  2083.  @Charlotte_Martel  exactly.
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  2084. But this country is nowhere near equal.....
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  2085. I need a car. My dream car is a Nissan rogue.
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  2086. States have already screwed up SNAP and Medicaid due to work requirements and low poverty thresholds. I would prefer welfare to be cash, not benefits.
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  2087.  @MaoRatto  yep
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  2088. Hey there! I'm poor myself. And poor people need BOTH, because we all can fall on hard times! Even having a living wage job does not prevent injury or destitution!
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  2089. That's more than what i Make a year.
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  2090. Inflation is an acceptable risk.
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  2091. Poor people can't afford to run for office
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  2092. Yep.
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  2093.  @JzanderN  basically conservatives oppose poverty but oppose ending poverty even more.
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  2094.  @thewormloop6885  I will follow all of your advice, I will succeed in life. Thank you for your help brother. The only constant thing in life is change.
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  2095.  @thewormloop6885  thank you. I took it to heart, trust me. I'd explain in more detail but I'm afraid my comment will get deleted.
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  2096. That's pure evil.
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  2097. Yep
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  2098. No poor people in congress or in MSM.
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  2099. I've tried. I'm a virgin at 28.
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  2100. They ignore poor people so I don't vote.
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  2101. I'm 28. I've never kissed. Hugged. Held hands. Had sex. I have no driver's license, car, apartment. I have no college education or training certification.
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  2102. Yep.
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  2103. I'd say renting should be outlawed because it's circular logic. You rent in order to own a home you currently can't afford via savings but the rent is so high You can never afford to save up enough money to buy a home, only to pay more rent.
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  2104. I agree.
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  2105. With a $7.25/hr minimum wage? How do politicians not understand poverty.
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  2106. Reminds me of my state of north Carolina: fast food joints and supermarkets pay "up to $30/hr" but that includes the highest hourly employee, the managers. When the cashiers are still making $8.50/hr.
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  2107.  @Razaiel  or welfare.
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  2108. Doesn't solve my incel problem because a hooker desires my money, not me as a person.
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  2109. @@corrineshelfoh I see
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  2110. I'm an incel.
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  2111.  @jgrAnimations23  I'll use an escort
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  2112. ​ @spydude38 the problem with the u.s. economy is there are too many poor people. 140 million people are in poverty: 43.3% of the population.
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  2113. It helps the poor too much. Cannot have that happen.
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  2114. ​ @nephilymbass1  actors require no training like cashiers, but I don't hear people complaining about actors making more than doctors. This debate is about convincing convincing yourself others have less value.
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  2115.  @cassady7169  I get tired of you. This minimum wage debate is about morals, not economics. Many people believe mw workers don't deserve a decent life.
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  2116. You believe in just-world fallacy and corporations wanting to pay people poverty wages.
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  2117.  @douglastovey2685  I can't fucking comment on videos anymore on my main account. I don't see my comments.
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  2118. Most fast food and retail companies pay maybe $2500 a year for college tuition. College tuition is $10,000 a year. I would have to work 4 years at minimum wage to pay for one year of college. Thus. to get a 4 year degree, I would need to work a minimum wage for 16 years. And, at the end of it, that would only be for tuition, not living expenses, so I still wouldn't be able to afford college.
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  2119. Really, going in the opposite direction of gun control means civilians should own sniper and assault rifles.
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  2120. He knows. It's his job to shit on the poor, that's all.
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  2121. Damn that's harsh.
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  2122. The problem Is the point of means testing is to perpetuate poverty. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  2123.  @SandraMartinez-gv1yf  This country isn't free for the reasons I've stated.
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  2124.  @SandraMartinez-gv1yf  Capital is one of many things you need to create a business, let alone a corporation.
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  2125.  @SandraMartinez-gv1yf  okay buddy. Whatever you say. You're free to believe your own delusions
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  2126. Which is why i don't vote.
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  2127. The cruelty is the poing
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  2128. I'm on medicaid until I graduate community college and university
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  2129.  @111Phoenix777  I agree with you. By the way I'm not saying to disband all military forces. There's unfortunately always going to be war. So about the car program: just a car. Probably a recent model. Not a Lamborghini or Bentley but a simple van or Sudan or something. A Fordf150 truck would be "fancy" to me.
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  2130. I'm depressed I'm a virgin.
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  2131.  @jacobmccarthy1171  I know.
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  2132.  @jacobmccarthy1171  oh ok.
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  2133.  @ZachForcier  you don't choose to have student debt. If people had enough money there'd be no loans.
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  2134. I have to use a food pantry at school because I don't qualify for food stamps. The food pantry still doesn't provide enough food.
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  2135. Why?
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  2136. You can't explain sex to someone who's never had it.
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  2137. Republicans are NOT angry about PPP loans forgiven because it benefits the rich.
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  2138. Yep.
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  2139. He does know those things. They are alot easier to do when you're paid $10 million a year.
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  2140. I'll break it down for you all: it's called just-world fallacy. 1. Republicans believe, deep down, America is "already fair" so any changes to society is "trying to fix something that ain't broke." 2. Conservatives believe that hard work and dedication lead to success and that evilness and laziness lead to ruin. And in their eyes this has to do with the income inequality, anyone anywhere can become anything they want through effort alone. Luck either does not exist or is not a contributing factor. Thus if you are born poor it is not your fault but if you die poor it is. Let's look at issues through their eyes: 1. Student debt: If forgiving debt and going beyond that making college does indeed lead to millions of people becoming middle class or rich it is admitting that effort is not and cannot be enough for all of those people to succeed. That society is NOT fair-that hard work does not always pay off. 2. Minimum wage: If raising the minimum wage really would lift tens of millions of people out of poverty it is admitting that poverty is a systemic problem. That no amount of effort would not have ever been enough for all of those people to succeed. In essence it is admitting that effort doesn't matter.
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  2141. Because rich people need poor people to exist.
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  2142.  @IL_Bgentyl  because the system is the problem.
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  2143. I can't afford to run for office because I'm poor.
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  2144. LOL.
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  2145.  @markzuckergecko621  these jobs have been dumbed down to have no skills involved. And not everyone can be promoted.
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  2146.  @markzuckergecko621  I don't think I mentioned socialism in my post. I literally said pay people a higher wage. That does not mean redistribute income. that does not mean worker co-ops. that does not mean any of that. here's a new social contract: if you're working you won't be poor.
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  2147.  @acebutter9241  do you agree with me?
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  2148.  @donh8833  that makes sense.
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  2149. Damn.
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  2150.  @masquarra  wow
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  2151. Rich people and poor people are not equal under the law
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  2152.  @kayc7442  No nation is interested in doing so. Why isn't ending poverty the responsibility of the government?
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  2153. Bill has to be high.
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  2154. Because women can have sex whenever they want.
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  2155. I can barely afford tuition and I'm too poor to afford living expenses while in community college.
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  2156. @Kodi I'm aware of the debt. This is about priorities, not scarcity. It's about the fact I find people not being able to afford healthcare unacceptable like rape.
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  2157.  @Lexaine  you pay for it through taxes.
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  2158.  @Lexaine  welfare reduces poverty, but doesn't eliminate it outright.
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  2159. I guess I should have dated or had sex by now, especially with how many women i've met at work.
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  2160. I've worked at a supermarket for about a year, and i've been a cashier for roughly seven years
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  2161. ​ @loranoodle I'm 29 and a virgin
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  2162.  @EphraimAtwater  thank you for your input.
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  2163.  @jeffreycarman2185  thanks.
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  2164.  @EphraimAtwater  I want to be a physicist. If I give up on that, that would crush me.
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  2165. @thebec8853  North Carolina.
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  2166.  @ShyGuy83  oh. I never...thought about that.
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  2167. Correct.
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  2168. They donate so little to charity as a proportion of their wealth.
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  2169. Yep
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  2170.  @KevinThomas-ok2ev  then it shows that you and many others find poverty acceptable.
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  2171. Scott Manley, would you travel in a nuclear rocket?
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  2172. Correct.
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  2173.  @antibull4869  ok
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  2174. Yes
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  2175. I'm a virgin at 29
    3
  2176.  @patriciaanndemello4652  i know. The irony is lost on them.
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  2177. Because worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once.
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  2178. Ok
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  2179. Exactly.
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  2180.  @KingOdie520  sounds like you won't acknowledge systemic problems.
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  2181. Yep. $10.50/hr as a cashier leaves me in poverty. Are my wages actually more expensive to have a job than to not have one. My cell phone bill, health insurance bill, and cab cost more than what I make.
    3
  2182. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Last spring, I was doing 3 classes at two different colleges at once, working as a cashier, being an intern, volunteering, and taking care of my mom all at once. But I still was unable to get laid or a girlfriend.
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  2183. That helps bankers.
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  2184. Not even close. In the '70s you only needed to work a few hundred hours to be able to pay for a year of college on minimum wage. You'd need to work 5600 hours now, or close to three years. I would need to make $78 an hour to be able to afford college in state. And that would be only for one year of college, nowhere near enough for a full ride.
    3
  2185.  @Waitaminute2015  I won a full tuition scholarship so that's something
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  2186. I'm reading this as an incel.
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  2187. Beautiful to read
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  2188. It's called just-world fallacy
    3
  2189. ​ chiefhandlerdespisesthepoo8575 I'm a loser?
    3
  2190. Okay
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  2191.  @Contrarymary-pc9hm  exactly
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  2192. Last spring I made $10.50/hr as a cashier and $900/semester as an intern, But, I qualified for ZERO public assistance.
    3
  2193. Exactly.
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  2194. Getting financial aid is next to impossible because you have to have both good grades and enroll full-time. Less than 1% of scholarships are full rides.... most barely pay the cost of a single semester even at just a trade school. I work as a cashier and I would need to make $60 an hour to be able to support a family of four on my own. There are no positions for most of us minimum wage workers to work our way up to so we're stuck in this low-wage job. Then I'm in an internship and I'm dealing with "temping," where I get paid minimum wage and I have to agree to it based on the idea that if things go well I'll be made full time.
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  2195. Politicians don't want to end poverty so this will never pass.
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  2196. Poor people will still be shamed for wanting healthcare.
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  2197. Yep
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  2198.  @JTScott1988  that's messed up.
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  2199. The truth is conservatives view billionaires and business owners as proof of having "Worked hard enough to succeed." So when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their their success. Whereas poor people haven't worked hard enough to get here. Thus, any government help they receive is a handout
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  2200. LOL.
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  2201. I'm here making $10/hr with no worker's rights....
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  2202. ​ @Arltratlo I cry from being in poverty despite going to community college Tuition is $5000 a semester, living expenses aren't covered, forcing me onto welfare
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  2203. and he makes ten million a year. what difference does it make if he loses $400 or $400,000? that's like bill gates losing 50 cents.
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  2204.  @Nilguiri  I'm poor and unskilled at 30 years old. I can't afford to go anywhere else
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  2205. His opinion about the fact that he was able to overcome poverty and then he said that means every other black kid can do it: that is survivorship bias, 100%.
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  2206. This implies people who can't work full-time or disabled people deserve to be poor.
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  2207. They make $10/hr. Unless they lived down the road it'd cost more in gas to travel to/from there than you make from working.
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  2208.  @moe433  You're free to believe as many lies as you want. You're disgusting.
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  2209. Beautifully said.
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  2210. @McRae1  people are already dependent on the government.
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  2211.  @bigmike9433  gotta get rid of employers keeping workers part-time to avoid benefits then.
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  2212. Skill yes. But ultimately, it's a power differential. This power differential is a policy choice.
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  2213.  @DumboDelight  it's a catch 22. To them it's not a catch-22 because they expect these jobs to be done but they don't believe these jobs are worthy enough to pay people well.
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  2214.  @libertybell5796  i don't know what you're talking about. Wages are controlled by people. Poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity. These are not theoretical constructs... they are reality.
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  2215.  @MugsisDank  all right. I guess I viewed sex as the panacea for all my problems. And the fact that many people considered me a loser for not being able to experience something most men do without effort.
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  2216.  @FaithfulFumoFan23  that's messed up.
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  2217. Because republicans don't want to end poverty. The American economy runs on poverty. If no poverty existed in usa, workers could reject dead-end job offers. Noone would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement. Republicans hate welfare because 1. They oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. I was working as a cashier at a supermarket. I made $10/hr. My raise was $0.50. I only worked 28 hours a week because at 32, I'd be eligible for health insurance. My internship paid me $900/semester, and I was taxed on top of that. I'm not voting if I can work, be in school, be an intern, and still be in poverty.
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  2218. Damn.
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  2219. I can't afford healthcare without Medicaid.
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  2220.  @lv.99mastermind45  they don't interview poor people
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  2221.  @ookamiblade6318  my reply was deleted.
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  2222.  @ookamiblade6318  I can see my replies now
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  2223. ​ @MySerpentine exactly
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  2224. Since each location makes millions of dollars each year each worker could make closer to $100k.
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  2225. I desire to become a political journalist specializing in poverty and wage analysis, but morally to speak up for the poor.
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  2226.  @samsadowitz1724  because politicians don't want to end poverty
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  2227.  @raiden000  that's messed up
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  2228.  @eragon78  exactly.
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  2229.  @xSayPleasex  I agree with you. What I'm saying is rich people do not want Minimum wage jobs to change. They want servants, slaves, an underclass. So to them, neither the nature nor pay of the MW jobs should change. I also forgot this feeds into two other functions of poverty: the poor subsidizing the lives of the rich and creating status to remind rich people they are different than others.
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  2230.  @crobinson2624  I see. My governor is democrat, Roy Cooper, wanted it raised, but republican legislature won't do it.
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  2231. Wow
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  2232. Rich and employers want to control the poor and employees.
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  2233. I've realized alot of things: Poverty is a policy choice. We don't care to end poverty. And I love how rich people and employers feel they have the right to decide how the poor should live. Imagine me as a man deciding how women should live. How much money women deserve to make.
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  2234.  @ActiveAussie2024  elliot rodger also felt entitled to dating women with 0 effort on his part.
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  2235.  @420JackG  correct. Because of #1. Americans think poverty is an individual problem, not systemic one. #2 means the only important jobs and people are those which require high skill/effort. #3 combines 1 and 2 to blame the poor for their misfortune.
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  2236. I always compare poverty to women's suffrage. We as a society have the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, that it is a right that they are supposed to have, so we ensured that they have that right. That's it. Our Society is structured around that simple fact. Wages are not like the weather: Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed that no worker deserved to be poor then no worker then.....no worker would be poor. That's it. We would raise everyone's wages to an acceptable level and deal with the repercussions whatever they might be. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal economic forces, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  2237.  @crogers4912  I know profits are much smaller than sales.
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  2238.  @lightknight876  he won't.. I know. But he has the authority.
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  2239.  @mareesthoughts  what do I do? Suck it up and vote? There is no perfect candidate.
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  2240.  @Vinnybunny123  yes. Even better.
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  2241.  @beigefox6579  get used to it. Just-world fallacy is the cornerstone of republicanism.
    3
  2242.  @beigefox6579  It's about empathy. Conservatives can't relate to people in different circumstances.
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  2243. That's by design though. Politicians want poor people to accept minimum wage jobs.
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  2244. I'm an incel. I'm a HHKV. I've never kissed or had sex. It's my fault I'm a virgin. I'm 29.
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  2245. You are correct.
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  2246. I'm American. I don't vote. Politicians don't represent me.
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  2247. Myth of meritocracy.
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  2248. That's messed up.
    3
  2249. Exactly ​ @somaliforeheadwarrior9721 
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  2250. The problem is corporations as always. Not immigrants or the poor.
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  2251.  @ernststravoblofeld  that's messed up.
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  2252. @jamesdragonforce  $6,700 is still cheaper than a single semester of community college now.
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  2253.  @stevedanylyk9375  he was basically pointing out the hypocrisy among conservatives.
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  2254. Exactly
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  2255. Exactly.
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  2256.  @shinygiveaways1920  prostitution doesn't count because the affection isn't genuine.
    3
  2257. Wow
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  2258.  @Tavat  yep. Exactly.
    3
  2259. Corporations support illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
    3
  2260. I'm a former incel but unlike Elliot, I am poor. At 28, I have no skills or independence. I have yet to have sex. I'm told I have to work for sex and work to escape poverty
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  2261. @cindyp5132  I believe this debt forgiveness is ideological- many Americans believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class.
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  2262. If you're poor.
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  2263. Even if I made $30/hr I couldn't afford a $400,000 home in my city.
    3
  2264. What woman is incel? What woman can literally not get laid?
    3
  2265.  @ondine45  I know
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  2266. If he had just had a living wage and debt forgiveness pushed through, he would have been the next f. D. R..
    3
  2267. Yep
    3
  2268. Reagan
    3
  2269.  @Curs___d27  thanks:)
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  2270.  @Terrackhimself  exactly
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  2271. Not everyone believes this.
    3
  2272. ​ @User08145 Exactly.
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  2273. When i was a cashier at a supermarket, I made $10/hr. I received no health insurance, PTO, or paid vacation by being kept part-time. I also couldn't pay for college.
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  2274. I make $10/hour and use welfare. Why do politicians ignore the poor?
    3
  2275. Correct
    3
  2276. lmfao this made me cry from laughter.
    3
  2277.  @ilenastarbreeze4978  that's messed up
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  2278. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  2279. Economics is not really what's at stake here. It's the fact many people do g want poor people to receive government benefits, because then they won't be wage slaves.
    3
  2280. Exactly
    3
  2281.  @MoNoToNeGaMeRz  you don't have the right to tell others how much money they deserve to make.
    3
  2282.  @bearmotorcycle7305  if businesses can only survive by putting people in poverty, that is a problem on the employers, not employees.
    3
  2283. politicians need people poor and trapped by debt.
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  2284.  @diegoharo7943  without the existence or threat of poverty, workers could reject jobs they don't like. i'm not saying people would demand $500,000/hr, but they wouldn't accept $11/hr either. This pandemic actually showed that exactly: extended unemployment and welfare benefits(and loosening the restrictions on welfare in my state temporarily), and cash assistance for housing gave workers the power to refuse jobs that exploited them. Which is the real reason why business owners loved those benefits being cut.
    3
  2285.  @diegoharo7943  in short, workers gaining more power is treated as a policy disaster by politicians, not relief. As workers gain more power, politicians use poverty, not higher salaries, to keep workers in place.
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  2286. it makes my blood boil.
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  2287. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  2288. @jscythe74  me quitting a minimum wage job makes no impact on my employer. If you taxed corporate 2x-5x their employees used in welfare benefits. THAT would impact employers.
    3
  2289. Greed. It's one of the 7 deadly sins for a reason.
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  2290. To not receive benefits. Like myself.
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  2291. it's a power differential: doctors can demand $90/hr, cashiers can't, even if Walmart made trillions.
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  2292. Lol EXACTLY. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end jobs because they offer no transferable skills nor sufficient money to pursue college education. This is on top of there being almost no upward mobility.
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  2293. Good for you! That isn't the case for everyone.
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  2294. it's called survivorship bias.
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  2295. Women can have sex more easily than men can. How is that fair? Or equal? You women preach about equality but yet you refuse to acknowledge either women must have a harder time getting laid or men must have an easier time getting laid, in order for true equality to exist. I'm a virgin at nearly 30. I'm sad about it daily. My standards are zero and I don't have sex. You're meaning to tell me it is MY fault? Not women's??
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  2296.  @teresabates1498  correct.
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  2297. First off, nineteen is an adult, not a child. Second of all, the reason incels never go after people their own age is because they're losers. Take myself, for example. I'm 28, my age range is 25-29. Unfortunately, most women in that age range are not going to date a man that has no driver's license, no car, no place of his own, and is completely broke.
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  2298. I'm not a NEET, I'm currently a college student. But a woman who wanted to date me rejected me when she found out I have no license or car.
    3
  2299.  @Aaron-is8yt  wrong. As long as the rich aren't the ones struggling everything is fine.
    3
  2300. Rich people think you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  2301. Like me. The problem is you can't describe sex to someone who's never had it.
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  2302. Yes
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  2303. Great. Too bad not everyone can get good enough grades. And even if they did. Scholarships aren't guaranteed to everyone.
    3
  2304. He rejected them.
    3
  2305. I'm an incel. At 28 I've never kissed, dated, held hands or had sex. I'm unhappy every day.
    3
  2306.  @satanpuncher06  myth of meritocracy.
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  2307. @magicwordxyzzy  Because when the government helps poor people, it's communism. But when it helps rich people, it's capitalism?
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  2308. Correct.
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  2309. It's called just world fallacy
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  2310.  @lizicadumitru9683  I'm a virgin at 27. I'll be 28 in three weeks. I think about giving up on life daily.
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  2311. I want to be a physicist because I'm inspired to change physics, understand antimatter, make the world a better place, and I love science fiction.
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  2312. You are correct.
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  2313. ​ @Islander05 no.
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  2314. No man is an island. We all contribute to each other's well being.
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  2315. Idk
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  2316. ​ @ChrisHarding-lk3jj poor people can do neither, hence why Medicaid exists.
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  2317. Poor people can't afford to run for office
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  2318. Beautiful to hear.
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  2319. I have 0 standards for women but I'm a virgin nearly 30 years old.
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  2320. For the most part, America finds the money to pay for the things it values. In recent decades, and despite deep gridlock in Washington, we have spent trillions of dollars on wars in the Middle East and tax cuts for the wealthy. We have also spent trillions of dollars on health insurance subsidies and coronavirus relief. It is in our power to wipe out poverty. It simply isn’t among our priorities.
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  2321. ​ @chrispitchforth621  exactly.
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  2322. This reveals something terrible and more constant about American politics. Our leaders are presented with a very simple choice. You can have worker solidarity exist or you can have poverty exist but you cannot have both. The defining moments of American politics are not about what we are willing to do. They are about where we draw the line. The truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to take. The consequences we do not like to tolerate. The prices we are unwilling to pay. It is worker solidarity, not poverty, that our political and corporate leaders treat as the risk they refuse to allow.
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  2323. I've asked hundreds of women for sex.
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  2324. Ok
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  2325. She's worth $250 million. She didn't work hard for that.
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  2326. Corporations make most high paying jobs require a degree
    3
  2327. ​@imnotmike an Ohio pizza shop owner paid his employees based on sales. His workers made $78/hr.
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  2328. I'm incel because I'm a virgin at nearly 30.
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  2329. ​@B. M. If you pay taxes to the government, what f**** purpose is the government? If I pay taxes cradle to grave, I expect government dependence cradle to grave.
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  2330. ​ @dannettejackson202 he lacks empathy
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  2331. Conservatives only support government intervention when it helps the rich or corporations. Not when it helps the poor or employees.
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  2332. Politicians ignore the poor so i will not vote.
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  2333. Because they're angry that poor people receive something for free that they have to get through hard work
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  2334.  @optricks2469  how would an increase in the minimum wage make a living more expensive? Living is already expensive as is and it has nothing to do with the minimum wage. Minimum wage workers are not the ones who's stimulating the economy when it comes to either purchasing homes or cars or anything it's the middle class.
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  2335.  @optricks2469  why would the price of goods and services and go up if the total amount of money has not changed? Money is being redistributed not created out of thin air.
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  2336. @barbiquearea  I was lazy for about 2 years. Then, when I wanted to return to community college, I had to help take care of my sick mom. I'm back in community college now.
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  2337.  @ilovecoffeev  yep. Many people believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
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  2338. Be mad at greedy corporations
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  2339. You're right. both parties ignore the poor
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  2340. @Cassady  wait, bring a lot of revenue? Okay, so if Chic Fil A brought in enough revenue, would you be fine with their cashiers making around $100,000 a year? If you say no, then i'm right in that this debate about wages is about status. Not economics.
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  2341. @Cassady  you're not hearing me. I'm saying if companies did pay workers based on profits, which we both know they do not, then workers would make a lot more. Such as the Chic Fil A cashiers I mentioned. I also asked you would it make you upset if chic fil a workers made that much? And workers, especially those with little skills, have too little bargaining power vs. corporations. I know of people who worked in retail that got a literal $0.05 raise for a year. For 2 years straight. That's 10 cents total. People do not get a 5 cent raise because they enjoy it, but because they're forced to. Only unions or government intervention can counteract this power imbalance. What I'm ultimately saying is paying someone so little that they can't survive is morally wrong. If a job is so "worthless" as to be worthy of only a literal 5 cent raise, then that job shouldn't exist.
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  2342.  @cassady7169  I know poverty can end. Because it's a policy choice. You provide enough people to not be poor. It's simple. It just isn't cheap.
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  2343. That's messed up.
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  2344. Are you male or female?
    3
  2345. Because it's about deservedness. Poor people don't deserve government assistance, but rich people do.
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  2346. That's terrible. Nobody should have to live that way.
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  2347. ​ @brianmelody8930 exactly
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  2348. Way higher. Around $45/hr.
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  2349.  @sentientnatalie  I support living wage minimum wage, welfare, UBI, free college.
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  2350.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  ok troll.
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  2351. How do they expect poor and disabled people to afford private school tuition? In addition to medical expenses, housing expenses, etc.?
    3
  2352.  @irrationalmale  not for all poor people no. But most of them yes.
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  2353.  @伏見猿比古-k8c  yep
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  2354.  @mosthole  that IS the suit. A R.I.G. is hybrid space suit/power armor. It's a space suit(pressure, oxygen supply, thrusters) And power armor (sensors. Electro servo motors for strength, NBCR protection).
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  2355.  @icemachine79  everyone cannot and should not have to move.
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  2356. @jeffw6692  yes. It's about control, not stopping gun violence.
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  2357. Yes​ @ObsidianLife 
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  2358. Politicians have the power to eliminate poverty. It is simply not among their priorities.
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  2359.  @Maddawg31415  politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, coporations couldn't control workers. As far as ending poverty, it's about priorities. Our country is wealthy enough to end poverty, it isn't among our priorities.
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  2360. Adults that can't control the cost of college. A college degree is necessary to get many high paying jobs.
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  2361.  @drdr76  you mean more to the rich than to the poor? i know. i've studed welfare policy for years. But in most people's heads the rich deserve handouts and the poor deserve disdain.
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  2362.  @kvaka009  yes. That's my point - corporations want slave labor, so they oppose welfare, strong unions, anything that diminishes their power
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  2363.  @kyle1235  student loan is universally bad. noone should need debt to go to college. And if society can be willing to pay the price to deem things like rape and murder unacceptable, it can pay just as high of a price to change any other aspect of society.
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  2364. I believe Fox News hosts a. suffer from survivorship bias and b. are too wealthy. I hate how the rich believe they speak for the poor. That's like the KKK speaking on behalf of all black people.
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  2365.  @Damacles9  they seem to forget that the government gave them their easy life: unions, workers protections, living wage, social security, medicare, medicaid, social security, pensions, cheap college.
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  2366. Elliot felt entitled to women's affection.
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  2367. ​@Rene I hope I get a full ride scholarship
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  2368. Politicians are sociopaths.
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  2369. Wow
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  2370. Sounds like a dumb moral issue to you. You do realize getting a job doesn't guarantee health insurance right? Your argument doesn't even apply to this discussion.
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  2371.  @AbdelrahmanOsama  what I mean is that skill and productivity are not the same. If a fast food company makes a billion dollars that is a billion dollars. If an aerospace engineering company makes a billion dollars that is a billion dollars. The productivity of both companies is identical, but the skill is not. I am fine with the aerospace engineers making more than fast food workers but what I am saying is that they both deserve to be paid way more than any minimum wage considering how much money that company makes. Whether that % is 20% or 30 or 40.
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  2372.  @adrianhartanto5243  7.25 an hour might as well be 0 since such a wage is unlivable.
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  2373.  @FletchforFreedom  That isn't true. And there are millions more who make above a minimum wage but below a living wage. Many of whom do want to support themselves.
    3
  2374.  @FletchforFreedom  turnover means nothing if the work is unskilled. Food service and retail industries have over 100% turnover rate but don't collapse because the work is easily replaceable. Even with many skilled jobs, employers face no massive financial loss from under paying or firing workers.
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  2375. Keep working hard because I love your channel.
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  2376.  @TheyRiseBand  30? Man.. I'm making 10....
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  2377.  @sawtooth808  wow.
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  2378. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone can go to college. Not with the high cost of tuition.
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  2379.  @bbo7002  yep
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  2380. Correct
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  2381. Disgusting.
    3
  2382. @whitewolfsthoughts700  thank you mate. I'm glad to know not all Americans are happy with poverty.
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  2383. You can't buy intimacy
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  2384. Correct.
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  2385. LOL
    3
  2386.  @sr2291  nice.
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  2387. I'd lie just like they do if i was getting paid $40 million a year
    3
  2388. ​ @incendiary6243 it's demeaning the working poor
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  2389. oh. that's still better than the US. Workers have basically 0 protections here. There's also at will employment....
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  2390.  @thatguyshanewhoyourefuseto1201  well I'm a NEET who doesn't go anywhere or does anything. I don't socialize with women, even online.
    3
  2391.  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer  because i don't believe i deserve love. I don't deserve affection. I don't love myself
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  2392.  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer  you're right. I'm tired of being scared. Blaming the world changed nothing about myself. I've been socializing more recently( a few weeks ago). I'm just scared of finding love and it hurting.
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  2393.  @thatguyshanewhoyourefuseto1201  the world contains many injustices but i believe it contains many good parts as well.
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  2394. Yes. I believe it should be written in the constitution that all people are entitled to a living wage, healthcare, education and benefits.
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  2395. Welcome to a country where there is no compassion to go around.
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  2396. The bottom line is what you said- the rich and politicians treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  2397. @latexsalesman  poverty is purely economic- you provide people enough resources so they're not poor. It's simple to measure and end. Poor life choices? Billionaires and corporations and wall street and the defense contractors make poor decisions all the time, but the subsidies and tax breaks never end for them. Our government and does pick winners and losers. It does give people 2nd chances. 3rd. 4th even
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  2398. @latexsalesman  1. I don't understand why every time the government intervenes to help poor people-it is called socialism, but when it helps rich people - It's "capitalism." 2. I am a capitalist through and through. 3. Corporations have no interest in ending poverty on their own, it requires government intervention. 4. Greed is a choice. It's about priorities. It's about what we value the most. If I offered Kamala Harris $ 10 billion to deny women voting, to repeal the 19th amendment (I know it requires Congress, this is a thought experiment), would she take the money? No. Nor would she accept for twice or thrice that amount. Her stance on women and money are about what she values the most. The same goes for all of us. 5. On some level, American society does not find poverty's existence unacceptable, like denying women voting. 6. Both of these are choices that we consciously and collectively choose to make. By extension, we can stop making it at any moment.
    3
  2399. @latexsalesman  She is not going to accept any amount of money to deprive women of voting, but our same government accepts money to deprive people of healthcare and infrastructure and a clean environment and many other things. They're choosing what deprivation is acceptable. It's a choice- it isn't something that just happens, they MAKE it happen.
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  2400. Because politicians believe rich people deserve government help, not the poor.
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  2401. The one and only reason these massive pay differences exist is because of a power differential: This pandemic proved that the government could create and sustain more robust income support programs and give poor people more power and eventually eradicate poverty... if that was truly their priority.
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  2402. They're saying workers only have value to the status of their job.
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  2403. The problem with immigration and welfare is the same: corporations want cheap labor, they can't do that if welfare programs are robust or illegal immigrants can't be exploited.
    3
  2404. ​ @John_Redcorn_ yep
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  2405. If she doesn't run, her political career will end. If any other Democrat does run their political career will end.
    3
  2406. Medicaid is necessary for poor people like myself.
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  2407. I don't think any hourly paying job can get you to 300K. You have to work in the finance sector to make something like that
    3
  2408.  @SuperGirl-tf2wn  it's also interesting to note that it's so expensive in this country that making the less than $300K makes you "poor."
    3
  2409.  @SuperGirl-tf2wn  did you ever watch that the David pakman video where a Senator said that a $400k per year salary is middle-income?
    3
  2410.  @DistrustHumanz  my replies are gone again and again
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  2411.  @homerthompson416  I'm glad you read the essay. NOW you understand my political concerns and the true source of the welfare debate: many people don't want poverty to end for the 13 reasons Gans mentioned- doing dirty work, guaranteeing status of middle/upper class, maintaining the idea that if you don't work or use welfare/charity then you're worthless.
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  2412.  @michelleespino9814  yes. Blame corporations for wanting slave labor. And politicians for doing what corporations want. You and I both know school is work, and there aren't enough high paying jobs for all workers. There isn't enough support for people like you and I by DESIGN. But I'm glad you didn't give up. You give me hope to fight back against this corrupt system that wants to push people into poverty and give up.
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  2413. It's called just-world fallacy. It's the cornerstone of conservative ideology.
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  2414. Because rich people are protected by the government.
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  2415. i love how rich people believe they speak for the poor. it would be like the kkk speaking for black people.
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  2416. It's messed up.
    3
  2417. ​ @robertstone9988 you're serious? I can get laid? Without hookers?
    3
  2418. ​ @robertstone9988 it seems I have too high standards because I approach supermodels.
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  2419.  @KealohaHarrison  I didn't add context: you aren't evil. I think it's evil how much college costs. Nobody should go into debt to pursue something as essential as education.
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  2420.  @KealohaHarrison  that was on me. Student loans are literally one of the top four issues I care about most.
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  2421. They don't want POOR people having kids.
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  2422. that is messed up.
    3
  2423. Millionaires should. Billionaires shouldn't.
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  2424. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier. I was kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits. I received no pathway to promotion. No way to pay for college($2,500/yr when tuition is $10,000/yr). I couldn't receive medicaid because NC denied medicaid expansion. My "raise" was $0.50. This video makes me angry.
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  2425. Government health insurance isn't much better. I'm on medicaid. It covers everything if i can find a doctor to accept it, and have to wait months or years for routine bloodwork.
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  2426. Understanding what a loan is doesn't mean you don't need one all of a sudden.
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  2427. You don't understand that politicians have an axiom: rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor. Anything which changes this is, by definition, unfair.
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  2428.  @grmpEqweer  that would end so many other privileges corporations have....
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  2429. I do not desire prostitution.
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  2430. ​ @skillethead15 wrong answer. Politicians don't want a living wage minimum wage because politicians want poverty.
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  2431. ​@B. M. There is no car that costs 3 grand anymore, Which is what my granddad paid in the 1970s. My dad paid 17K for a car in the early 2000s. There is no car on a car lot where i live that costs less than 45K now.
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  2432. ​@B. M. I make 10.50 an hour as a cashier. The reason I don't have a car is because it's too expensive relative to what I make. A car payment, car insurance, and gas costs more than what I make. never mind the cost of an apartment or tuition.
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  2433. I'm happy for him. If anything, I'm MORE miserable that I'm still a virgin. - from incel
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  2434. @Nosmo90  I'm saying I identified as incel. Then I realized that remaining one meant I was never going to change. I was sedentary and stagnant, just like you said.
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  2435. It's even worse than that. I'm on medicaid, but all the red tape costs more than just paying straight cash to me anyway.
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  2436. Because incels like him feel entitled to women. It is about power and control
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  2437. @Brian H you need money to move, and to where? When over half of workers make under 40,000/year? When housing, healthcare, and college are unaffordable?
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  2438. You hit the nail right on the head. The real reason for union busting is so corporations can maintain power
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  2439. I'm incel virgin at 29. I refuse to accept prostitution because the affection isn't genuine.
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  2440. When will Corporations stop feeling entitled?
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  2441. That's messed up
    3
  2442. I don't see the news focusing on the poor
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  2443. Politicians don't want that.
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  2444. What you aren't seeing is their true underlying belief: republicans believe poor women don't deserve to have children. They view poor mothers as undeserving of reproductive rights, thus they shouldn't have access to abortion. But once the child is born, the child shouldn't receive welfare either. The ultimate hatred over welfare isn't paying for healthcare or education itself, it's the insolence of the poor while act wrong while being supported by taxes. Wealthy people can have kids out of wedlock and not face government penalties, but the state tries to pressure the poor to be married and working so their kids won't need welfare (which obviously doesn't work)
    3
  2445. Holy crap
    3
  2446.  @MayMay-qr1yc  so do middle class people expect poor people to be banned from having an education or attending public schools? I don't think that's right but legislators are pushing this hard.
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  2447. I truly believe the free college debate is about values: rich people want there to be a caste system. And what's terrible is they'll get it no matter what. 1. The government has not passed tuition free community Colleges and universities 2. Even if the government did do this, that leaves out private schools and graduate schools. 3. This loan forgiveness also leaves out living expenses. 4. Scholarships and grants are not guaranteed for the poor and are rarely enough. 5. Scholarships CANNOT be enough. Since 140 million people are in poverty, there isn't enough scholarship money to give every poor person a full ride. 6. One student won $9 million of scholarships in my state, for that to be possible with $140 billion scholarship funds, there'd have to be 16,000 poor people nationwide.
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  2448.  @salvatoremaglione6398  housing the poor. And noone is an island.
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  2449. @erinmac4750  thank you. I'll work on going out to city events daily. I'm working on getting a driver's license and car( part time job) first.
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  2450. The core problem is corporations, THEY are the ones who desire endless power and wealth.
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  2451. I want to become a physicist just like you!
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  2452. The true number of people in poverty is 140 million, not 38 million.
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  2453. Yep.
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  2454. Because dealing with the underlying issues would highlight that guns themselves aren't the problem. The purpose of gun control isn't to reduce crime but to maintain control over the masses.
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  2455.  @warriorwaitress7690  I support that bill of rights!
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  2456. @cassady7169  you need a car for transportation. That doesn't mean the car has to be sold for $100,000. People need food. Whatever prices it's set at, we must be able to afford groceries. That's a false equivalence. Economics and morality are intertwined because both rest on what we desire to do, be, and have. Selling a car that doesn't undergo an inspection isn't economically feasible. It isn't morally acceptable either. Economics is important, but ideology is even more important because that's the primary motivation for humans. Kamala Harris isn't agreeing to deny women the right to vote, no matter if inflation is reduced, no matter if trade deficits are turned into surpluses, no matter how much money any corporation makes, no matter the state of the economy.
    3
  2457.  @chrishakala528  EXACTLY.
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  2458. @cassady7169  it'd be the same living wage no matter what. It's just being adjusted based on family composition. Poor people having children is not a poor life decision. You're admonishing the poor again. Employers can be forced to not discriminate based on family composition.
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  2459. @cassady7169  and it's cheaper Why pay someone $9/hr? Not enough to raise kids, but the welfare provided for the kids costs more than paying a living wage?
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  2460. @KeekeOrb  exactly. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  2461. i love how rich people are asked about how hard it is to survive in today's economy.
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  2462. Politicians don't care about ending poverty.
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  2463.  @thiskiddyahoo  yep
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  2464. When I was a cashier, I was a FTPT worker. Full time part time. I worked 28 hours a week because if I worked 32 hours, then I would receive health insurance
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  2465. Correct.
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  2466. Expand Medicaid then.
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  2467. Exactly
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  2468. No, because the system is the problem.
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  2469. Yep.
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  2470. I used take 3 classes at 2 different colleges, worked as a cashier, was an intern, volunteered, and helped take care of my family. I was and am still a virgin.
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  2471.  @regisglass5464  thank you for your brutal honesty. I made many mistakes in my younger years, but i desire mainly to get my associate's of science degree, become independent, and to take care of my health better. Because of my age and NEET status, i'll need to apply to scholarships in the early morning, and to jobs immediately afterwards. And what's worse is because i am in school, i cannot have a high paying STEM job(they require a bachelor's of science, i am starting over with an associate's of science). so for the next 4-5 years i'm in school, i cannot have the job that requires schooling in the first place. Trade jobs pay well, but they're dangerous and too labor intensive. And the only seasonal jobs i could get might have to be in retail(although with experience, i might make $20/hr as a manager).
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  2472. I don't hate women.
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  2473. It isn't free for poor people.
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  2474. Wow
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  2475.  @bodyloverz30  my comments always disappear when I post often
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  2476. A living wage minimum wage, a minimum income that scales with poverty to allow poor people to rise to the middle class, and stripping corporations and CEOs of their bonuses. This will end poverty overnight.
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  2477. @Cassady  poverty is a policy choice, yes. Made by the powerful. Not by the poor themselves. No one student controls tuition prices, if they could. There wouldn't be $1.7 trillion in student loan debt. I don't control the price of homes, if I did, we wouldn't have $800k+ homes in California, and $400k+ homes almost everywhere else. I don't decide pharmaceutical companies to receive trillions in subsidies and strong patents, driving the cost of drugs beyond the affordability of millions of Americans.
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  2478.  @cassady7169  you missed my point. Politicians find rape's existence unacceptable. They do NOT find poverty's existence unacceptable. if you can't get this simple fact, then you're trolling. Rape is wrong. So is terrorism, pedophila, kidnapping, and racketeering. Poverty, homelessness, hunger, and lack of affordable health care are NOT deemed morally wrong by politicians.
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  2479. I make $8.50/hour
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  2480. If something is a right, then it can't be taken away
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  2481. Or the poor
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  2482.  @UTTX  I said, profits, not revenue or gross sales.
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  2483.  @happyangie674  it's a bot account that is spamming.
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  2484.  @MetalheadAndNerd  you need artificial gravity, FTL travel, and extreme energy prowess to achieve interstellar travel.
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  2485.  @michaelflynn6952 sounds like good advice.
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  2486.  @lament22  thanks. I got to change.
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  2487. Because they want wage slaves
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  2488. unfortunately trevor noah and colbert are no longer serious enough about political issues.
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  2489. Blame corporations for that, not illegal immigrants.
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  2490. That's messed up
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  2491. Reading that made me cry.
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  2492. Hookers don't count because the affection isn't genuine.
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  2493. Rofl
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  2494. Exactly
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  2495. I'm 28 and I've never dated.
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  2496. It sucks mate. I'm living in a state with the 7.25 minimum wage, no Medicaid expansion leaving millions without health care that are poor. Unaffordable college, and most scholarships are not able to cover the full ride. And then there is at will employment.
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  2497. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier.
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  2498.  @leobigelow7021  unless you had robust welfare programs or a guaranteed income in place, poverty wages will persist.
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  2499.  @1987BillyBob  there are millions upon millions of people who make more than 7.25 but less than 15. There are tens of millions of working poor people in this country. Not everyone who works minimum wage is some teenager with middle class parents. How about you blame corporations who want slave labor, and not the poor who want better lives? If a corporation cuts hours to avoid having to pay non poverty wages, then that corporation can screw right off. Honestly, I'd tax corporations 2x-5x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits.
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  2500. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  2501.  @thething1710  I bet if this guy was homeless or made minimum wage he would change his tune real quick
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  2502. Yes
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  2503.  @Sptnm  what I meant was they view poor mothers as undeserving of autonomy but they want their poor children to fill low-wage jobs and the military.
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  2504. since they're poor, they can't run for congress or fight back either, like myself.
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  2505. They hate poor people having enough power.
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  2506. Oh wow
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  2507. My standards for women are zero and I'm still a virgin
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  2508.  @ranelgallardo7031  yes
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  2509. Poverty can end....
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  2510. Prostitutes don't offer genuine affection. I'm still an incel if I pay for sex.
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  2511.  @deez3913  If only Harvey Dent was real...
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  2512.  @Zyo117  I said patents....
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  2513. ​@okboomergaming2573 inflation may be a real risk, there may be increases in automation. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that we deem intolerable.
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  2514.  @Tennis214  if only there was free college....
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  2515. ​ @oliverbirnso2884 good response. Although I'd want food stamps access to be expanded.
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  2516. I can't live on 15 an hour, not with inflation.
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  2517.  @donovanfoto3263  that's messed up
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  2518.  @leonfrancis3418  the cost isn't why welfare for the poor is hated. Many people think poor people don't deserve government assistance.
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  2519.  @ZaShiesty  welfare empowers the poor to reject slave wages
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  2520. ​@Jenny Brancucci I'm a virgin at 28. It's bad I'm broke and work as a cashier. It's good I'm a college student and physics intern.
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  2521. Great video as always!
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  2522. ​ @Adam-oq8bg fallacy of relative privation.
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  2523. Wow.
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  2524. Rich people would do no such thing.
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  2525. As if college students choose what tuition is.
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  2526. And no one person controls the education system nor the labor market. You can't blame students themselves for either, let alone both.
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  2527.  @gunthervonhoffman6453  exactly. The USA government used to provide free college. WWII industrial/job boom, GI bill, and federal housing program that pushed many(an entire generation)poor people into the middle class.
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  2528. the real solution would be a guaranteed minimum income- it'd be an overhaul of ALL government aid for the poor- pell grants, medicaid, food stamps-and provide direct cash assistance, without work requirements, to all poor people nationwide.
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  2529. she makes $2 million per year. She makes more in one year than most Americans could make in 60 years in non stop work.
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  2530. The market isn't the solution because the big problem like you mentioned is that there are too many poor people.
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  2531. Money
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  2532.  @Yawehplaneswalker616  that's terrible as well....
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  2533.  @Yawehplaneswalker616  why doesn't Canadian government cap home prices or number of homes that can be owned or raise wages..
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  2534.  @Twinleo1  housing costs are not priced for minimum wage workers.
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  2535.  @mrrationalhippie  I just need to get out more... I'll do it next semester being on campus. But for now, I'll get a job, license, car.
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  2536. Won't work...for minimum wage.
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  2537. Correct.
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  2538. Because the president has 24/7 taxpayer funded armed security, driver's, grocery shoppers, education, and Healthcare.
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  2539. @seth1455  that sounds fantastic! I never thought about it that way!
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  2540. @Recluse616  exactly
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  2541. But poor people like myself still cannot afford to run for office or afford to stay. Politicians ignore poor people like myself so I won't vote in November.
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  2542. Our government can end poverty it is simply not among their priorities.
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  2543. Because most journalists are kept in line by rich people. Unless a poor person journalism, we'll never get honesty.
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  2544.  @algorhythmic3904  fuck it. I can't see my replies. What I said was I know it wouldn't make any business sense, I wanted to see if you would be mad over it. Because many people think Minimum wage jobs are worthless and don't deserve decent pay. I don't understand why minimum wage workers are worse than rapists to many people.
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  2545.  @algorhythmic3904  but these jobs have been dumbed down by corporations, the problem is on corporations, not the workers wanting a raise.
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  2546.  @Thyalwaysseek  exactly. Worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that america finds unacceptable.
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  2547. Because the truth is many people view being a billionaire or business owner as having worked hard enough to get here in the eyes of the government, so when they make a mistake, they deserve to get bailed out due to their success.
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  2548. Where as poor people have failed, so any government help they receive is a handout.
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  2549.  @killzone866  wow.
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  2550.  @SocialistBoomer  I will.
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  2551. Evil
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  2552. Our government opposes policies which reduce poverty.
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  2553. If we did that we'd be considered a 3rd world country.
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  2554. I lost my food stamps due to work requirements, and food banks are an insufficient replacement. If it wasn't for my dad, I wouldn't have any food to eat.
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  2555.  @butterfish-g9f  that's messed up
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  2556.  @dag_of_the_west5416  that's evil.
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  2557. Exactly.
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  2558. Because it empowers poor people.
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  2559. I'm not mad that you're successful in life. I'm mad I'm not successful with any women. That's why I'm incel
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  2560. Beautiful to hear.
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  2561.  @BrightRavenofAcadia  Stop moving goal posts. Noone should be poor, especially in the richest country in the world. If people made enough at their jobs they wouldn't need welfare. You saying welfare goes into the economy is the ends justifying the means, which is disgusting to me.
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  2562. ​ @cariwaldick4898 Exactly.
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  2563.  @AlienZizi  except that many rich people don't believe that. It would make their own jobs seem less important.
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  2564. @77Creation  I didn't choose to be poor or lose my mom. I didn't choose the cost of healthcare or college.
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  2565.  @carlostosado8965  i don't hate people being successful but i find it hypocritical the rich decide what's "best" for poor.
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  2566. ​ @icaruscrane8846  Calvinism.
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  2567.  @kingluithe1st  $10 is a poverty wage...that was the takeaway message.
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  2568. Not everyone can choose that path but I'm happy for him
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  2569. I used take 3 classes at 2 different colleges, worked as a cashier, was an intern, volunteered, and helped take care of my family. I was and am still a virgin.
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  2570.  @j.d.s.8132  thank you brother. I'll get there. Maybe in the next year or even month. I won't give up like the guy in this video.
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  2571. @J.D.S.  I am sad I'm a virgin but I won't keep moping around.
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  2572. FDR wanted to make housing a constitutional right.
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  2573. @bane3991  I disagree. When I looked at covid19 pandemic, and the government response to unions and increased unemployment benefits and stimulus checks, I realized the real political problem with both welfare and UBI: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. When poor people have the power to say no to crappy jobs, either through unions or welfare/income grants, corporations and politicians freak out all at once. How many neurosurgeons are on food stamps? Zero. Because they make enough money from work to make welfare pointless. Reverse that, provide an income grant of $900,000/year unconditionally to the poor, and they won't work for slave wages either. Rather than tackling the root of the problem: employers paying people slave wages, politicians perpetuate the problem by diminishing the income grant and attaching it to low wage work. Politicians refuse to accept the risks in abolishing low paying work outright, they don't seem poverty intolerable. What I'm trying to say to this: just like in economics, in ideology, all priorities are not created equal. We must deem certain things intolerable by refusing to accept certain risks. What risks we refuse to accept shows us our true values. We do not deem poverty intolerable, nor denying immigrants American citizenship, or women reproductive rights, or anything.
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  2574. I love that it is always someone with 24/7 armed security telling everyday people that they don't need guns.
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  2575. Yes. As a former incel myself, I agree. I'm trying to fix my life, at 28, although I know I've made many mistakes in life, I know I can fix them.
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  2576. I'm a poor college student/cashier and use Medicaid. Unfortunately, it isn't accepted by most doctors and there are too long wait times.
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  2577. Ok
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  2578.  @skis_injeans  Correct. Wages are not like the weather: Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we as a society had the fundamental belief that no worker that every worker deserved a living wage, then every worker would have one. That's it.
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  2579.  @skis_injeans  obama didn't care about the poor either.
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  2580.  @maggiedilettante2434  thank you. I'm glad universal health care exists in other countries.
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  2581. It's called Calvinism.
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  2582.  @_nobodyxi  I'm providing the moral reason why many conservatives hate a living wage. As for the economics of it, the truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. What are we more concerned with? Risk mitigation or existential opportunity? Many people choose risk mitigation (inflation, automation, unemployment) over existential opportunity (a society where no workers need welfare).
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  2583. Most poor people already have jobs. 41% of childbirths require medicaid
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  2584. We don't have a choice.
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  2585. I have noticed how the answers conservatives give are always the same: it is whatever empowers the rich/powerful and disempowers the poor/disadvantaged.
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  2586.  @macbeth642  he doesn't see it that way.
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  2587. When I went to higher education I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country. Part two: I flunked out of community college 2013-2015 Was poor 2016-2017 Mom became sick. I was her caretaker 2017. I returned to community college fall 2020. My mom passed away March 11th, 2023. Spring 2024. I'm still at the same community college having made almost no progress at all. I got a private scholarship to take three classes this semester. I'm failing two, got withdrawn from one I'm tired of being poor. I'm tired of failing classes. I'm tired of being a virgin. I'm tired of sitting at home all the time. I'm tired of being unhealthy. I want to learn from. My mistake of flunking out of school and change. I want to make up for lost time from taking care of my mom. I want, I need this degree more than anything. All I ever wanted was to have my degree and my mom. I wanted both and now I have neither. I'm​ @fiveangrybunnies1470 
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  2588. I've been a cashier for 7 years and I basically can't own a car on such crummy wages. Even if a car was $300, the gas alone to and from work cost more than what I make. I have to quit because I don't know how I'll afford a car in my current situation.
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  2589. Exactly
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  2590. There are 2 reasons for this, one ideological, one economic. The ideological reason is because republicans believe in just world fallacy. They believe billionaires and business owners have "succeeded" in the "system that works," so when they make a mistake, they deserve to get bailed out due to their success. Whereas poor people have failed, so any government help they receive is a "hand out." Republicans are willing to pay more for a service as long as they get to see people they don't like suffer.
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  2591. My mom is Dead. Her death is ignored.
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  2592. I've never dated or kissed at 28.
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  2593.  @KittyKat-xg4tx  okay. I'll let my hatred go
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  2594. I don't vote at all.
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  2595. Exactly
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  2596. My supermarket offered "tuition assistance for college," making being a cashier a "great investment." They fail to tell you it's $2,500/yr, capped at $20,000, requires a full year of near full time employment, and is only paid to you after you pay for classes on your own up front.
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  2597. I hate when people move goal posts like this. People insult me for being a cashier "Become a store manager or become business owner!" okay but can everyone do that? Can we all get the promotion? Can we all get the pay raise? And if we did who would be left??
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  2598.  @DrJohn-rl9zg  that's depressing.
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  2599.  @DrJohn-rl9zg  it's more expensive to have a job than not have one.
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  2600.  @DrJohn-rl9zg  Wow.
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  2601. @Dr. John  To think there are doctors that make that 725k a year, but we're still upset over a $15 minimum wage.
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  2602. ​ @waffles3629 just-world fallacy.
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  2603. Exactly
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  2604. Beautiful to hear.
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  2605. The legal system itself is politics
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  2606. Yep
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  2607. That's messed up
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  2608. I'm poor and have healthcare through terrible Medicaid.
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  2609. Lolol yes I'm entitled for believing you cannot afford a $450,000 house on 7.25/hr. I'm entitled for being upset college goes from a few hundred dollars a year to a few hundred dollars per class.
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  2610. @Dr.Beetlejuice110  I see. Sometimes people don't think through their arguments.
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  2611. @AnnLinky  believe what you want, but the bottom line is corporations, bankers, and politicians don't want poverty to end. If workers are kept in or near poverty, then they are desperate enough to accept their wages being depressed and being made dependent on employers. Restrict welfare, healthcare, education, and abortion Support illegal Immigration, weak labor unions, and competitive markets. Keep inflation and unemployment to be just high enough to ensure workers will always need welfare (poor) or debt(middle class) to survive.
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  2612.  @AnnLinky  the cost of poverty has to be paid by someone. For welfare to be miniscule, it must be both and possible and practical for anyone employed anywhere to support themselves and their families. It must be also possible for anyone pursuing education to be able to do so as well. Hard work is no guarantee of success or escape from poverty, otherwise welfare would be demanded by noone.
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  2613.  @grindcoreninja6527  yep. But many people don't want poor people like myself to receive government assistance grants to go to school.
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  2614. @jamesnadell1998  student debt is a scam and the borrowers deserve a break.
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  2615.  mystix  when college is six figures? Lol try coming up with that making $40k a year or less.
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  2616. Yep
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  2617. Yep. Poverty being means tested is disgusting.
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  2618. I died laughing.
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  2619. If only it was that simple
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  2620. So then I'm NOT an incel.
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  2621. ​ @ao24857  ok? It isn't legal everywhere.
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  2622.  @JaekSean  I can't post replies they keep getting deleted
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  2623.  @lazer2521  I hate to tell you but what you are asking for is literally impossible. Ideology is one of the two critical components of politics, the other being scarcity/economics/money. So, consciously or unconsciously, voters and politicians make political decisions based on their ideology. Since over 70% of the country believes in some form of a higher power, religion will always dominate politics. The only way to ensure no one ideology dominates over another is for there to be no money/scarcity. Take homelessness for example. If ending homelessness was just about money, it would've been solved long ago. It isn't just about money, many christians believe poor people must suffer in order to earn God's acceptance/better life. They believe poor people must earn government assistance. This belief shows that earning help is more important than receivig help itself. I.e. people are more concerned with work ethic than actually helping people escape homelessness.
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  2624.  @rosemariemerritt5035  why won't rich people let the education funding system change? They still send their own kids to private schools regardless.
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  2625. False
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  2626.  @cuteasiantraveling  beautiful. I'll quit. I'm pursuing an Associate's degree in science now, with the help that I transfer to university next year. I want to obtain a bachelor's degree in physics and not work minimum wage either. I've won a full tuition scholarship.
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  2627. When I went to community college 10 years ago I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country.
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  2628. Disgusting.
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  2629. Correct
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  2630. ​ @justsomeguy6336 why SHOULDN'T it be?
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  2631.  @justsomeguy6336  I've already said nothing is free. All change has a price. Maybe not money, but energy, time, and attention. That is the wrong question to be asking, as if something costing something makes it an unworthy goal.
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  2632. Interesting. So is it just expense and not status? So if a janitor could afford a household you would date him?
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  2633. That's what's happened to me. I realized my life Is difficult.
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  2634.  @Miranda3730  people aren't angry at welfare over the poor because of the money, they're angry because they believe they get nothing in exchange for helping the poor.
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  2635. People don't want unskilled workers making alot
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  2636. @Ron Petersen  minimum wage jobs neither pays for college nor affords promotion.
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  2637. @Ron Petersen  it is difficult to enroll in college full-time and work full-time, let alone over time, at once. Sure, people get promoted, statistically not enough. At Walmart, maybe one out of 100 people will get promoted to make 1 or $2 more an hour. That's hogwash. That's like telling all those cashiers to become store managers or CEOS in the same day.
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  2638. 25 MILLION?
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  2639.  @davidsenderodelsanto  it's a paper by Herbert Gans. Poverty serves 13 purposes, or functions, within a capitalist society. The first, and biggest one, is to ensure society's dirty work will get done.
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  2640. Half of workers make $30,000 a year or less. I'd say there aren't enough high paying jobs. Get a college degree? Which cost $120k on average?
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  2641.  @penguinnh  pretty much the only way to have the American Dream now(pay for those 5 categories) is to be a millionaire or billionaire.
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  2642. That is the Fallacy of relative privation. Nobody should have had to experience deprivation and hardship of that magnitude to obtain a degree
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  2643. That's why collective bargaining exists.
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  2644.  @mattosgood28  I want to make a follow up post but I can't see my replies.
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  2645. Exactly
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  2646. Monya Irving do you have any idea how poverty works? These people are poor, when can you move out of a city, buy a house in another city, pay for child expenses and healthcare, with no money from anyone?
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  2647. Why do you need to run a business to know that a power differential exists in wage negotiations?
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  2648. @Zach  you do not need to be a business owner to know poverty exists or that, ideologically, politicians have no desire to end it. There's a power differential in wage negotiations anyway.
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  2649. I'm poor, it contributes to my difficulty getting dates.
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  2650. Poor people already work. Idiot
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  2651. Yep
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  2652.  @Aliciaw867  I already go to college
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  2653.  @PETEYBOY954  thank you
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  2654. @examinatorant4522  I cry reading that
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  2655. @Turkey_Hill  I can work. I'm in school. I can apply for scholarships and grants. Then pursue Screenwriting again. I want to be a physicist and paid Screenwriter.
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  2656. @jimmbobb  thank you for your condolences.
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  2657. I would love to be awarded a $4 million scholarship or grant to pursue school. I'm extremely poor.
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  2658.  @steven0152  yeah it is your problem. Education is a collective investment, not an individual one.
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  2659. Yes.
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  2660. Okay. I'll change.
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  2661.  @MarcillaSmith  let's not forget half of workers make $30,000 or less a year.
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  2662.  @MarcillaSmith  there are literally tens of millions of jobs that pay not even twenty bucks an hour.
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  2663.  @coldhaven1233  I can't see my replies so I hope you read them
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  2664. @dmwalker24  classism is more potent than racism or sexism
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  2665. It's called survivorship bias
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  2666. And the myth of meritocracy
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  2667. Sucks man. I feel your pain.
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  2668. @Merican Modi  you also believe in the fallacy of relative privation as well. A problem being relative doesn't negate the problem's severeity. If my city's police department can only catch 50% of criminals versus other cities that could catch only 30%, I'm not going to sit and applaud cops saying they have nothing to improve upon, that there's nothing more to change.
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  2669. Scott Manley, you have inspired me to pursue screenwriting again, writing military scifi of course!
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  2670. I swear every policy that reduced poverty would get seminar.
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  2671. You have to be not poor to afford prostitution. And even if you could afford it, you can't buy intimacy You can't buy passion or desire. A prostitute sees you as paycheck.
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  2672. Because it is not among politicians priorities to abolish poverty.
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  2673. @OlaphFlakers2344 abolishing poverty? It will never happen because the task of eliminating it has to do with values. Our politicians and corporate leaders don't want to end poverty because without poverty, workers have solidarity and can reject dead end job offers.
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  2674.  @MoleculeMan2025  part-time jobs pay minimum wage, my cashier job paid $10.50/hour. I need welfare to survive.
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  2675.  @Antonio-69-420  thanks. I can tell you the truth of this debate over education and poverty - the truth is many people don't want to help the poor, but they do want to help the rich. They view poor people as "undeserving" of government assistance but also admit they cannot abandon the poor either. For example, would the electorate support banning poor people from going to community college or university? Since people are truly suggesting they don't want the poor like myself to advance in society.
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  2676.  @Antonio-69-420  it is neither possible nor practical to ban people from obtaining a college degree because they can't hold a steady job. So would America truly support passing a law saying if you're poor, elderly, homeless, mentally ill, or disabled you don't deserve to go to school? Or to a doctor?(Medicaid) Or have food?(Food stamps)
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  2677.  @Antonio-69-420  exactly. Man I'm fired up and want to pursue journalism
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  2678. Preach brother. PREACH.
    3
  2679. It's messed up
    3
  2680. I feel your pain. I make $10/hr as a cashier. My "raise" has been $0.50! My holiday "bonus" is $2.00/hr!
    3
  2681.  @Gem-n-life  - politicians only speaking about helping the middle class - no living wage minimum wage - weakened unions - insufficient welfare and charity programs - no mention of massive income redistribution to help the lower class not be poor in an absolute sense
    3
  2682.  @Merica_dadgarage  "use tax money and never fix things." Both parties are bought by corporations, that's why.
    3
  2683.  @matthewhowe3727  exactly. She says a bunch of ambiguous nonsense.
    3
  2684. The rich and political classes treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable. This proves poverty is a policy choice. One that our government and business sectors make over and over again.
    3
  2685. ​ @goldktgal  I'm a male virgin at 28. I've never kissed anyone either. Or held hands. I'm happy for the video guy. But sad for myself. I'm mad about you. You could get laid easily if you wanted.
    3
  2686. There are more poor people than rich people
    3
  2687. Medical. Mortgage. Car. And college debt forgiveness.
    3
  2688. @CandieP  good. On my end, my mom died in sickness and poverty due to having horrible health care. And I lost Pell grants because I flunked out of school after her death.
    3
  2689. I'm in North Carolina, I couldn't get Medicaid because I was able-bodied, until NC expanded Medicaid.
    3
  2690. Hahaha.
    3
  2691. Affordable college would be one major step in greatly reducing poverty, and politicians do not want that.
    3
  2692. Yep
    3
  2693. ​ @verityh4918 escorts don't offer genuine affection. It's meaningless.
    3
  2694.  @chiangkaishrek5123  I'm saying he needed both to pay poverty wages and customers to be rich. I'm agreeing with you.
    3
  2695. If he cancels 50k and let's say your student loans are 20K does that mean you get 30k to pursue College?
    3
  2696. It's based on calvinism
    3
  2697. You can't buy intimacy.
    3
  2698. Ok. I'm a virgin at 29
    3
  2699. I find it funny it's always rich people who get to debate minimum wage, but never the people making minimum wage. It's always military contractors debating military spending, never the soldiers.
    3
  2700. Republicans hate the poor becoming better off.
    3
  2701. If you're rich.
    3
  2702. Because worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  2703. I can't see my replies
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  2704.  @grayearly3116  I know. I'm in community college but I can't afford the tuition. I'm working as a cashier but make $10.50/hr and receive no benefits. I'm an intern but I'm making $15/hr at 4 hours a week. I am NOT living the American dream (although I'm thankful my family still helps me).
    3
  2705. Except that's the point. Corporations want people poor and desperate. No doctor would work for $10/hr. I as a cashier don't have that power, not without collective bargaining
    3
  2706.  @mementomori1749  by providing poverty wages for its employees.
    3
  2707. Humanitarian issues are politics. Everything is politics.
    3
  2708. I'm a virgin at 29
    3
  2709. Exactly
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  2710. Ok
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  2711. it's messed up. it's messed up that rich people think they can speak on behalf of the poor. it'd be like the kkk speaking on behalf of black people.
    3
  2712. I hope to become a journalist one day.
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  2713.  @taknak3791  I'm an incel due to being a virgin at 27.
    3
  2714. I need to stop identifying as incel.
    3
  2715. That's wrong because?​ @Mllowr 
    3
  2716. It's called just World fallacy and Calvinism
    3
  2717. Does the evilness of republicans have any bounds?
    3
  2718.  @SPHYNX_9982  If we can give women the right to vote then we can give people a living wage, both are policy choices. They simply require political will.
    3
  2719.  @AlsFoodForest  exactly. Thank you for your input.
    3
  2720. To force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    3
  2721. George carlin said something similar.
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  2722. Yep
    3
  2723. Yes
    3
  2724.  @Kiljaedenas  he won't because he believes the rich "deserve" bailouts.
    3
  2725.  @jackjohnson5672  what?
    3
  2726.  @jackjohnson5672  yep. Poverty is 100% a policy choice and political choices are moronic.
    3
  2727.  @patrickbooth5091  your mindset is what's wrong with the country.
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  2728.  @patrickbooth5091  if we pay taxes it's our own money we're getting back. According to your logic there's no need to fund police or public hospitals or roads. Rights are policy decisions so yes we can make anything we want a right.
    3
  2729. Blame corporations.
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  2730. You have to not be poor to afford a prostitute. And a prostitute doesn't offer genuine affection.
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  2731. The real economic reason welfare has work requirements is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
    3
  2732.  @jayrose8638  rich person slipping up and saying meritocracy is a sham.
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  2733. That's more money in 2 hours than those workers make in a YEAR? That's too high of a pay disparity.
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  2734. It's more like $42 an hour. But senators make millions so the minimum wage doesn't affect them.
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  2735. That's why corporations destroyed unions.
    3
  2736. If only poor people could run for office.
    3
  2737. ​@SocialTourist the real political problem with a guaranteed income isn't the costs, but the benefits: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  2738. My replies are gone
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  2739. I don't follow them but i guess you're implying they're crazy.
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  2740. Exactly. These people are blaming poor people for wanting a better life instead of greedy corporations who never make enough.
    3
  2741. Politicians don't want to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. The point IS for things to be unaffordable.
    3
  2742.  @SolutionsWithin  you're correct. I hate to tell you the REAL reason many conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage: their moral code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  2743. Yes. I'm happy for him as an incel.
    3
  2744.  @cordfortina9073  good news/follow up: I'm taking a math class at a community College. 2. I'm in a mathematics-physics internship(at the same College). 3. I work as a cashier part-time at a grocery store. 1 year ago I was a NEET who just played video games and watched movies daily, so I've made alot of progress. Today I will email school to inquire about transportation assistance(i can't afford a car), employment assistance(work on campus that provides a living wage so i can quit working minimum wage), and if I can get both I'll do school full-time, get My degree, join or lead the math club, and do one city event a day for 30 consecutive days.
    3
  2745. exactly.
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  2746. ​ @bru4773  you missed his real criticism - he thinks poor people shouldn't receive government assistance.
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  2747. Yep
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  2748. I can't see my replies
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  2749.  @CortexNewsService  because many people believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class.
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  2750. The point is to perpetuate poverty.
    3
  2751. @TheShauNanigans  Yes, in the literal sense, my mom and my 20s are gone forever. That’s a painful reality, and it’s okay for me to grieve that loss. No amount of success or effort can bring them back, and that’s hard to sit with. But what’s not gone is what they meant to me. My mom’s love, the lessons she taught me, the strength she gave me—those are still with me. And while my 20s didn’t go the way I hoped, they weren’t for nothing. They shaped who I am now, and they don’t have to define my future. I still have time. My life didn’t end at 30. I still have the chance to build something meaningful, to chase my goals, and to create a life that makes all the struggle worth it. It’s not about reclaiming what’s gone—it’s about making the most of what’s still ahead.
    3
  2752. Tucker is amazing.
    3
  2753. @Libertarian Takes  I already responded to your 2nd comment about how most parents and welfare receipents work.
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  2754. I cried reading this.
    3
  2755. They aren't
    3
  2756. Because politicians want poverty to persist
    3
  2757. So you can't prove bribery? Or if you record, is the evidence inadmissible in court?
    3
  2758.  @charleswomack2166  so if i literally recorded someone planning a rape/embezzlement and doing it but the person wasn't aware they'd go free?(the recording being useless)
    3
  2759. Due to lack of money and skills, there's nowhere else for them to go. And as if these jobs aren't worthy enough of decency in the first place.
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  2760.  @janelliot5643  lololol. Unless there's a billionaire interested in helping/speaking up for the poor there'll never be a massive independent press.
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  2761. Poor people don't deserve government help. But rich people do.
    3
  2762. 43% of the population is poor or low-income.
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  2763. Politicians don't want to end poverty. Because ending it destroys the power of corporations.
    3
  2764.  @HJW018  I didn't know a peacekeeping force functions as police too.
    3
  2765. Ana is so beautiful.
    3
  2766. That isn't how government spending works. And nobody ever makes that argument when the government subsidizes the rich or corporations.
    3
  2767. I don't get it.
    3
  2768.  @AllStreetsEnd  that is....terrible.
    3
  2769. ​ @Sibogi33 exactly
    3
  2770.  @johnlast6066  just-world fallacy.
    3
  2771.  @johnlast6066  you are admitting a catch-22 with your own statement. If the job is dead-end and gives you no skills, you can't expect the person to get skills in a job you just admitted was dead-end. A person's needs don't disappear, just because the job doesn't pay enough. I don't like paying taxes much. Do you? The government spends about $150 billion a year helping workers get by while their employers reap profits.
    3
  2772.  @johnlast6066  markets are structured by humans. Markets aren't magic.
    3
  2773. ​ @johnlast6066 none of those soft skills increase the minimum wage.
    3
  2774.  @dennisyoung4631  okay.
    3
  2775.  @sarahelizabeth299  I agree.
    3
  2776. @johnlast6066  who gave you the right to decide what others deserve to make? Why would it matter if a burger flipper made $250K?
    3
  2777. Wow.
    3
  2778.  @Xxsorafan  thank you for your condolences. I've had a lot of financial and emotional support since I lost my mom. But I'm still angry over how my school treated me before and after her passing. I won't give up on school.
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  2779.  @edgarvonboltzmann7465  I thought I would get eviscerated in the comments. I'm so angry I have to go to a school that doesn't care my mom died
    3
  2780. @Michael Euthanasia  there are several problems wrong with that statement. 1st most welfare recipients already work anyway. They just don't make enough to survive without welfare. 2nd off, you're assuming that all you need to do is get a job and then boom. You're out of poverty. If that was the case, there'd be no poverty in any country at all. 3rd of all, many people have good reasons not to take jobs. Fourth of all, not everyone who wants a job can find one, much less one that pays well.
    3
  2781.  @hectorvega621  the reason corporations oppose a living wage minimum wage and unions is because worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once.
    3
  2782. @Hector Vega  doctors can reject minimum wage jobs, the poor/unskilled can't. The only way poor people can have power is collectively.
    3
  2783. Yep.
    3
  2784.  @ToxicAudri  yep.
    3
  2785.  @ToxicAudri  and remember- poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  2786. Corporations support illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
    3
  2787. As if corporations aren't corrupt themselves.
    3
  2788.  @marshallsweatherhiking1820  exactly
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  2789. $10 trillion worth of tax cuts. That could've ended poverty
    3
  2790. You are correct.
    3
  2791. Correct.
    3
  2792.  @coricognitions  yep
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  2793. It is since poor people can't afford to run
    3
  2794. Don't blame poor people, blame corporations and rich people for wanting to depress wages.
    3
  2795. Correct.
    3
  2796. That's messed up
    3
  2797.  @oswaldrabbit1409  Minimum wage was meant to be a living wage when it was created.
    3
  2798. Even if I had made $30/hr as a cashier I couldn't have afforded healthcare out of pocket.
    3
  2799. That's corporate media for you.
    3
  2800.  @DonCDXX  yeah I messed up income with wealth.
    3
  2801.  @DonCDXX  median income used to be 70% the cost of a median priced home. With $450k homes in my city I'd have to make over $300,000/yr.....
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  2802. That's worse.
    3
  2803. Poor people can't run for office
    3
  2804. Both politicans ignore the poor. The news media ignores the poor. Why should i vote as a poor person?
    3
  2805. ​ @alexricky87 yep
    3
  2806. ​@Jsa460 paying for sex solves nothing because escorts really don't like you.
    3
  2807. Yep.
    3
  2808.  @TheShanicpower  I'll never call myself an incel again.
    3
  2809.  @TheJamesNigra  being dependent on the government? Isn't that what the government is for? Police, firefighters, bridges, roads, high-paying jobs? No one person can provide that on their own, that's why we pay taxes.
    3
  2810.  @invadingomen6826  you shouldn't have to join the military to be able to go to college.
    3
  2811.  @invadingomen6826  Herbert gans wrote an essay on this. "Functions of poverty."
    3
  2812.  @cezzeboi2841  if you pay taxes cradle to grave, the government should take care of you cradle to grave. If you think hard work is enough to escape poverty then you believe in just-world fallacy.
    3
  2813.  @Bluebirdgrandson  well, me refusing to work for one week would leave me dead, so I can't change anything on my own. Poverty has destroyed my life and my mom's, since she died from lack of medicaid expansion.
    3
  2814. Greed.
    3
  2815. It's about equivalent exchange. People like her believe the rich provide everything of value, therefore they deserve everything of value(money). The poor provide nothing and should therfore receive nothing(money). Thus a CEO is "priceless" and deserves $32 million a year but a waiter is "worthless" and deserves $32,000 a year.
    3
  2816. Americans see the poor as a burden that can never change, instead of as people that want to do well for themselves like everybody else.
    3
  2817.  @Jay.the.goblinking  that's what I'm trying to argue here. I shouldn't fucking work as a student, much less two or three jobs, and still not be able to make it I shouldn't need food stamps or Medicaid if USA is as great as Bill Maher says it is
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  2818. ​@yishnir that's the point. Poor people wont-work for slave wages. If they have government benefits.
    3
  2819. ​ @eastbaykidd8574 there aren't enough skilled positions for everyone
    3
  2820. It is society's job to ensure its workers aren't in poverty.
    3
  2821. Epic.
    3
  2822. Yep.
    3
  2823. You're correct
    3
  2824. No
    3
  2825. I'm broke. I have no car either. And prostitution is unfulfilling.
    3
  2826. ​@Huge Gamer which is why poverty is ignored despite poor people making up 44% of the population.
    3
  2827. Epic
    3
  2828. Damn. I'm an incel myself. I read that twice and it hurt my feelings.
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  2829. What did he mean by that?
    3
  2830. Beautiful to hear.
    3
  2831. Fox news mantra
    3
  2832. Because corporations are biased towards one side.
    3
  2833. ​ @jimbob9407 you're a troll
    3
  2834. I cried reading that
    3
  2835.  @jackgude3969  funny how people never demand rich people be means tested.
    3
  2836. @chrisrowsell7114  Sir, stop the madness. If you are using student loans or financial aid, you cannot afford college out of pocket. No millionaire or billionaire needs or wants pell grants or student loan debt forgiveness. Why don't you have the same level of contempt for rich people who receive loan forgiveness and all others sorts of government help as well, even though they're already rich?
    3
  2837. It's messed up.
    3
  2838. You misunderstand something. The American economy runs on poverty, or at least at the threat of it. Republicans see rising worker power as a policy emergency, and they use the whip of poverty, not the lure of higher wages, as the appropriate response.
    3
  2839. I just want to stop being a virgin
    3
  2840.  @antonioiniguez1615  you need to eat whether you work as a cashier or doctor. Whether you work 10 years or 10 days.
    3
  2841. @antonioiniguez1615  why aren't they entitled to survival?
    3
  2842. @antonioiniguez1615  1. There can be a right to a comfortable life. There can be a new bill of rights, like what FDR proposed. 2. Physics. 3. You're ignoring what I'm saying. You're saying I, and many other people, deserve poverty.
    3
  2843. @antonioiniguez1615  markets are not like the weather, something you observe and predict but can not control. We, as a society, decide what rights are. They are not something that just happens. Why do you use that example of laziness? I will never understand why people think laziness is why poverty persists. Many people who want jobs can't find one. People lose jobs they value for all sorts of reasons, from injury to automation to illness. I don't believe that for one second, anyone is dumb enough to believe poverty and homelessness are attractive choices.
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  2844. Only in criminal cases, not civil.
    2
  2845. It's called just-world fallacy. Rich people have "succeeded" within the system that works, so they "deserve" government help. Whereas poor people have "failed," so any government help is "undeserving."
    2
  2846.  @kennen1171  yep.
    2
  2847.  @singed8853  okay.
    2
  2848.  @Quetzocotol  conservatives believe the rich deserve unlimited money.
    2
  2849. Because they're heartless
    2
  2850. I agree.
    2
  2851. That's messed up.
    2
  2852.  @gregnixon1296  that's messed up
    2
  2853. Yep. I've been told i don't have any independence to attract women.
    2
  2854. ​ @elijaharvinger1178 I agree with you.
    2
  2855. ​ @Boris80b exactly
    2
  2856. They're living paycheck to paycheck though.
    2
  2857.  @hedark1135  yes...they are. And I do. Idk what made you say that nonsense.
    2
  2858. Remember this- The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. If they are unwilling to accept unemployment in fighting against climate change, they support global warming.
    2
  2859. Idk.
    2
  2860. Exactly.
    2
  2861. ​ @RonaldReed-ul9du  My logic is if these anchors can make millions, why aren't we pushing for a $50 minimum wage for comparison?
    2
  2862.  @lorrie2878  how much money do they make?
    2
  2863.  @lorrie2878  I'm glad my post blew up
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  2864.  @Rowsy91  not really. Not all adults can or should provide for themselves. Students, elderly, terminally ill, disabled, college students, etc. Certainly not students. Taking 4-5 classes a semester leaves little, if any room, to work. And if you do, it's probably an internship or entry-level job.
    2
  2865. Now imagine trying to live on 7.25/hr. I make 10/hr
    2
  2866. ​ @IcarusLime yep
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  2867. I don't get your point..
    2
  2868.  @alanawinner  the official federal poverty level is kept artificially low because Republicans don't want to lose federal funding for welfare programs(current red states receive more funding than they provide in taxes for welfare programs). The reverend is referencing the unofficial, but more accurate, supplemental poverty measure, which reveals 140 million people are poor or low-income. That's 43% of the population.
    2
  2869.  @alanawinner  thank you for your input. I think the main takeaway message here is that there are far more poor people than rich people. But poor people such as myself can't afford to run for office or we would.
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  2870.  @alanawinner  my replies are gone when I typed so much
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  2871. I just saw the Jimmy Dore reaction too.
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  2872.  @ushual  beautiful.
    2
  2873. Yep
    2
  2874. Thank you.
    2
  2875.  @Scar-jg4bn  I'll start today! I'll make a five-year plan of what I need to do to become a screenwriter!
    2
  2876. rich people tell themselves that lie to feed into the myth of meritocracy. Admitting that being poor isn't a choice means that being rich isn't a choice either. That becoming rich is due to luck, cheating-making their wealth unfair and any amount of effort going towards success pointless.
    2
  2877. Conservatives believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    2
  2878.  @idklikewat  think about denying women the right to vote in USA. if you were to admit that the SYSTEM was the problem. That is, how women were being treated not when women themselves, then you're admitting effort alone isn't good enough.
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  2879. Politicians want a supply of workers to meet the demand for dead end minimum wage jobs, so politicians restrict welfare for this exact reason.
    2
  2880. Yep
    2
  2881.  @sandite26  he's a troll account so ignore him.
    2
  2882.  @jaythenihilist4689  contract work still being used to screw over workers???
    2
  2883. You needed to work about 200 hours on minimum wage to pay for college then. It's about 5600 hours now.
    2
  2884.  @STC987  that's a crazy amount of money that's tax free man.
    2
  2885. 400k? Who says that and is serious?
    2
  2886. Correct. No true liberal who supports the poor.
    2
  2887.  @Ryuujinv01  conservatives believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    2
  2888. @Ryuujinv01  conservatives believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    2
  2889. Yep
    2
  2890. It's called lying by omission.
    2
  2891. I desire to be a journalist that speaks on poverty the most. I want to be a voice for the poor, but also workers.
    2
  2892. My top policies are living wage, pro unions, guaranteed income, Medicare for all, and free college.
    2
  2893. When poor people like myself can run for office
    2
  2894.  @g_man2177  that's messed up isn't it?
    2
  2895.  @biljam972  I'm sorry... I just needed to grow up and realize women deal with just as many problems as men.
    2
  2896. @biljam972  reading that made me cry. I realize now women have problems, too. I shouldn't be mad at any woman for being human. Me being a virgin isn't bad. If I truly desired to lose my virginity I'd hire an escort, but I know she wouldn't like me. I'm lonely. It's hard to express that so I lie and say I want sex instead
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  2897. @biljam972  I have no skills and no independence. I'm poor and socially inept/isolated. However, I'm smart, kind, and funny. I'm changing my life. I'm trying to finish my Associate's degree, then bachelor's degree(both in physics) in the next 5 years. And be independent.
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  2898. @biljam972  I'll stay on track. I'll add 3rd category- improving my diet and fitness. I want sex so much, but I want further my education even MORE. I may lack money but NOT ambition.
    2
  2899. @biljam972  what's worse is when I was an incel a woman WANTED to and TRIED to date me- but I messed it up. I was creepy to her on purpose, she found it charming and agreed to date me. But I put forth no effort to meet up with her, so she felt unwanted and moved on. She even tried to date me again a year later and I ghosted her. I was too afraid to admit I lacked independence, and that I was scared of intimacy. I still think about her.
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  2900.  @biljam972  i'm getting my driver's license within a week!
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  2901. @dand3975  minimum wage jobs are real jobs.
    2
  2902. @dand3975  times change. To ensure workers don't need welfare, minimum wage jobs should be able to support a household. To expect anything other than that is to argue for poverty.
    2
  2903. Exactly.
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  2904. I'm 29 and a virgin still
    2
  2905.  @PraiseTheFSMonster  all righty.
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  2906. What they mean is that they'll be less likely to work for slave wages. People with welfare or debt are easier to control than people who don't have them.
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  2907. Then cashiers would make around $100,000/year
    2
  2908. Correct.
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  2909. Rich people delude themselves into believing anyone can become rich because the implication otherwise is that then becoming rich isn't fair because it's due to luck.
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  2910. That's even worse.
    2
  2911.  @lynn2797  that's slavery.
    2
  2912.  @lynn2797  If only politicians still had a soul....
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  2913. Yep
    2
  2914. I'm a virgin
    2
  2915. Except many rich people want poverty to exist.
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  2916. Minimum wage should be a family living wage. It must be high enough to afford cars, kids, and mortgages.
    2
  2917. that's messed up,
    2
  2918. Because you can't buy intimacy. A prostitute is not attracted to you.
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  2919. That's because that's what the news has morphed into on the national level.
    2
  2920. ​@leobigelow7021 the reason the bottom 2% pay next to nothing in taxes is because...here is a thought...they don't make alot of money!!! Have you seen labor market?
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  2921.  @evacody1249  I've answered this already.
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  2922. @evacody1249  I don't know what else to tell you. If inflation is a risk with ubi, and you don't want to accept that risk, then you are more concerned with the price of not helping the poor vs helping them. If I'm a on train track, and you can a press a button to save my life, but there is a 60% chance you lose your arm, and you don't want to accept that risk, you are more concerned with not helping me vs helping me. You'd help even if there was a 90% chance of losing your arm, if you truly valued my life.
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  2923.  @MilDarty  you proved my point. Politicians have the power to eliminate poverty. It is simply not among their priorities. Israel got $14 billion in aid in one package. Billionaires had lost $89 billion in 3 days and got bailed out/subsidized by the government.
    2
  2924. Because corporations profit off of poverty
    2
  2925. The big difference between Tate and most other incels is that Tate is rich, where as most incels are poor NEETs. Tate is worth $350 million, trump is worth billions. Most incels are either a NEET, or, like myself, work a minimum wage job, and are poor still.
    2
  2926. I'm 29 and a virgin.
    2
  2927.  @bane3991  The absolute dollar amount is relative. There's a calculator online on MIT that shows all the variance. Your rhetorical question is ironic: yes. Pay double, triple, whatever has to be the case to get their workers off of government assistance.
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  2928. Correct.
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  2929. @andrewfurst5711  Poverty can be eradicated, since poverty is a policy choice.
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  2930. I know. It's terrible
    2
  2931. 30/hr sounds great!
    2
  2932.  @rossclark704  I concur. Unfortunately what I'm trying to get you to see is that with or without unions many people don't believe the poor deserve a living wage.
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  2933. Who is ok with that who isn't rich? Poor people can't run for office and enact change
    2
  2934.  @johnnybgood1169  Quantitative easing? Isn't that the fed basically printing money and giving it to rich people?
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  2935.  @johnnybgood1169  It'd be nice if the median income in this country was tied to the stock market. 30% increase in stock market? Then the median income increases by 2 to 5 times that amount.
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  2936.  @ptyleranodon3081  I feel like you'd need a whole hour or day or week to cover each issue.
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  2937.  @balonitoni999  notifications are messed up so I just saw this. I'll do that
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  2938. Time limits and work requirements force poor people into minimum wage jobs and don't increase skills or production. Your motive for limiting welfare is ideological, not economic.
    2
  2939. Yep
    2
  2940. Because people choose poverty and parenthood. Way to be cruel towards the less fortunate.
    2
  2941. I will follow your advice
    2
  2942. $45/hr minimum wage based on inflation. 61 based on GDP.
    2
  2943. There aren't enough slots for all poor people
    2
  2944. Correct. It's about ideology, not economics.
    2
  2945. They scream about medicaid and food stamps and minimum wage, but the deficit doesn't matter when it comes to tax cuts or bank bailouts.
    2
  2946. I hate when Kyle says "if you work full-time, you shouldn't be poor." What about part-time workers? Not everyone can or should work full-time or at all. About 86 percent of people who don’t work are children, students, the elderly, or disabled—that is, people who either can’t work or shouldn’t be working. You can also be able-bodied taking care of one of the above - not everyone in this country has affordable and comprehensive healthcare, child care, transportation, or housing. And "able-bodied" has no basis in science.
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  2947.  @kirglow4639  I believe it's simple why politicians oppose a living wage minimum wage: because helping the poor to such a degree implies poverty is a policy choice.
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  2948.  @michaeldrummond6793  conservatives believe success is due to effort alone, luck either doesn't exist or isn't a contributing factor.
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  2949. The reason welfare has restrictions but the inheritance and tax cuts for rich people don't is because politicians view poor and disabled people as being undeserving of a decent life.
    2
  2950. Lol guys are nice to women all the time and don't get sex.
    2
  2951. So yeah "being nice" won't get you laid.
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  2952. That's correct. Poverty ending is intolerable to the rich because rich people thrive off of poverty.
    2
  2953. I have a life and blame myself and I still can't get laid
    2
  2954. You have to be rich in USA to have healthcare
    2
  2955. It's called just-world fallacy.
    2
  2956. ​ @vanessapyo7331 but you could've lost your virginity at 22 if you wanted to. I'm a virgin at 29. I've never held hands either
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  2957. 1. Argue for teachers to make more 2. Not all minimum wage workers are young or have parents that support them 3. There are not enough career jobs for all minimum wage workers to move up to 4. UBI is opposed because it empowers poor people. Just like welfare does
    2
  2958. I lost food stamps and section 8 housing after my mom died, then Pell grants too. Now I have to live with my dad
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  2959. Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
    2
  2960. ​ @ilyafoskin you're right
    2
  2961. Yep​ @Wilbur-em1hw 
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  2962. The minimum wage and poverty have nothing to do with the economics to Republicans, it has everything to do with morals. Republicans believe in just world fallacy: thus they believe all rich people are good / morally superior and all poor people are evil / morally bankrupt. They oppose raising the minimum wage and restructuring welfare because they see poor people as undeserving of becoming middle class.
    2
  2963. Of course not, poor people like myself can't run for office
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  2964.  @kk-wh3hb  corporations rake more than $1 trillion in annual profits. They can make enough to cover the spending on welfare.
    2
  2965. Exactly. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier.
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  2966. Remember these 2 things 1. Ideology: gop opposes policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Economics: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    2
  2967. I'm getting a job, license, and car. I'm working on becoming independent then lose my virginity.
    2
  2968. End minimum wage jobs.
    2
  2969. My state denied Medicaid expansion, leaving me with no healthcare to help my sick mom.
    2
  2970. Many people who receive welfare do work. Not only do They work, they make more money working part-time, receiving welfare than they would work full time, and not receiving welfare.
    2
  2971. In other words, I make more money as a cashier working part-time receiving welfare. Than if I would working full time and not receive any welfare. Working full time would mean I'd lose more money in benefits than what I can earn from working
    2
  2972. Because it's about priorities. Politicians don't find poverty and debt unacceptable.
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  2973.  @jKLa  that's messed up why corporations are endlessly greedy. I just want an end to poverty, but I don't know how to end it when people are blind to their hatred of the poor and immigrants.
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  2974.  @jKLa  I think it's a choice. Because women are proof we can change our priorities
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  2975. That's messed up.
    2
  2976. Cashiers at chic fil a could make around $100k a year.
    2
  2977. Yep.
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  2978.  @dukekenny9340  yep.
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  2979. Poverty is terrible...
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  2980. If you're poor prostitution is pointless because you can't buy affection. If you're rich being a sugar daddy is useless for the same reason
    2
  2981.  @DogMechanic  Yep
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  2982. It's mainly due to low wages.
    2
  2983. Holy crap.
    2
  2984. Because poor people deserve a better life? Immigrants too?
    2
  2985. The rich would hate that.
    2
  2986. Why?
    2
  2987. Sex workers don't offer genuine affection, so they'd still be incel.
    2
  2988.  @shanesorensen7878  anecdotal
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  2989.  @shanesorensen7878  you can't buy true companionship. You can't buy respect or love.
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  2990. So you want there to be poverty wage jobs but you also don't want there to be welfare? that doesn't make any sense. You wouldn't need welfare if poverty wages didn't exist
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  2991. I'm intelligent and ambitious, but still a virgin. One woman wanted to date me, but she left me when I told her I had no driver's license or car.
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  2992.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  you're paid based off of what you negotiate, but since employees have no negotiating power most employees make nothing. If there was fair profit-sharing cashiers would make around $100,000 a year.
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  2993.  jon pork  The skill of the job has nothing to do with the profits of the business.
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  2994.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  yes the living wage varies from person to person. And one thing that doesn't go into what an employee makes is what the employee wants to be paid themselves. Their desire is ignored.
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  2995.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  my main point is every worker deserves far above minimum wage and a living wage.
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  2996.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  minimum wage is not based on what employees want, I could care less about what employers alone want. Wages are supposed to be set by two people, not just one.
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  2997. Wow
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  2998. It is wrong, but not to Republicans. Republicans believe poor people are failures and don't deserve help. I'm able bodied, so I can't get medicaid despite being poor.
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  2999.  @Eldritch-1  LOL.
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  3000.  @TheDivayenta  I think Republicans believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class or rich so they dismantle policies which accomplish that. Every single Republican in my state has opposed an increase to the minimum wage by even $1.
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  3001.  @TheDivayenta  I meant all actions have consequences. What consequences we consider "good" or "bad" are choices. We choose to give women voting(action) so whatever consequences we experience as a result are acceptable. We, particularly US politicians and corporations, are unwilling to change their way of life and thinking to accommodate paying all workers $15/hr. So we can have a female vice president, IMO one of the greatest achievements for women in all of human history. And we deem this acceptable. but at the same time, A $15/hr minimum wage is doing "too much." So this tells me we are willing to live in a society where women have freedom, we are NOT willing to live in a society where Noone is poor.
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  3002. LOL.
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  3003. @tjuyftutjyfudt we can redistribute and redefine the value we give to any job.
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  3004. Wow
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  3005. They're doing anyway because of greed
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  3006. he steelmanned his own argument LOL.
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  3007.  @amandaski  Oh then I agree with you.
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  3008. That's messed up
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  3009. Chic Fil A and McDonald's make enough to pay their cashiers $100,000 per year.
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  3010.  @markzuckergecko621  raising wages to be above poverty level is something businesses should naturally do on their own but they've proven they don't want to.
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  3011.  Crickett  conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage based on morals. Conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  3012. Because if there wasn't wage slavery or debt slavery, then nobody would be controlled by corporations!
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  3013. Lol we're not all bad.
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  3014. If he did 5 things 1. Cancel student loan debt 2. Make public universities free(trade schools too) 3. $35 minimum wage 4. Medicare for all 5. Universal basic income Our country would overturn the 22nd amendment for him to outdo FDR.
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  3015. I've never kissed or had sex at 29.
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  3016. Yep
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  3017. My mental health has improved but I'm still a virgin.
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  3018. @DrivingMaskina  yes
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  3019.  @billyevans4929  oh trust me, I have a heart. Many parents either are not capable or are not willing to send their kids to college. I don't want kids working while in school either. I'm saying not all parents support their adult children. Poor people having kids is not the problem. The economic problem is corporations wanting to pay people poverty wages. The moral problem is mainly the middle class blaming poor people who simply want better lives for themselves and their families, while putting no blame on greedy corporations and politicians. "Not everyone can get a scholarship so then they shouldn't go to school." Um no. Poor people should not be locked out of higher education, nobody should. Either there needs to be far more scholarship and grant funding or far lower college costs. Rich people shouldn't be the only ones who can graduate college debt-free.
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  3020.  @anthonytwohill9726  I see that all the time at fast food joints and supermarkets. They'll pay "up to $15 an hour" but that's for managers only. The cashiers are still making $8.50.
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  3021.  @anthonytwohill9726  what's even worse is what I saw in a McDonald's this morning. They'll offer health benefits to all employees, even cashiers, but the caveat is you have to work / average 30 hours a week for a whole year, so there was an argument between a manager and employee with the employee saying that corporate keeps all workers part-time to avoid giving out benefits making it impossible to receive health care. And it's twice as impossible anyway because fast food has an over 100% turnover rate- most people leave within 6 months. And it's THREE FUCKING TIMES as impossible because corporate will simply fire you before the year comes. And then they'll offer "tuition reimbursement" but with the caveat that it's maxed out at $2,500 per year. I go to a community college: $2,500 would not even cover a single semester here full-time. And that's just tuition, community college doesn't cover living expenses.
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  3022.  @anthonytwohill9726  yes. I cry from being in poverty but MSM/boomers are all evil and don't care. I'm not saying I want to make the same as a doctor but I'd like to eat....drive....not depend on welfare/family.
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  3023.  @anthonytwohill9726  I just realized no fast food job would schedule you consistently for 40 hours unless you're management.
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  3024.  @Shozb0t  their employer...in exchange for working.
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  3025.  @Shozb0t  mate I'm poor now. I can't buy a house or car making $10/hr. I can't even afford cab to go to/from work. The experience and skills you mentioned does not apply to minimum wage. Your wage never increases at entry-level jobs no matter how long you're employed there or how many hours a week you work. Nor is it worth it to be promoted to manager for $0.50 raise. Minimum wage doesn't pay you enough to pay for college and no software engineering company is hiring me to make software with my experience being a cashier.
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  3026.  @uncomfortabletruth5915  Yes. Greed.
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  3027. Holy crap.
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  3028. It should be written in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough to people for them to not be in poverty.
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  3029. Oh well then.
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  3030.  @thomassenbart  you are correct. I have abandoned any hope that the government will help me, same goes for businesses. The only person who owes me the life I desire is myself. Noone will obtain my physics degree for me. Nobody will buy a car for me. Nobody will exercise for me. It's up to me to obtain this degree and independence. To maintain my health. I must let go of my victim hood mindset and grow up
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  3031. Greed.
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  3032. The problem with that is that he views the high cost of college as a barrier to overcoming poverty. Conservatives fundamentally oppose policies which reduce poverty.. even if it makes the country wealthier in the long run.
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  3033.  @Flutterbleau  yes. Poverty is a policy choice chosen by our lawmakers. Because poverty's existence is about power. Without the existence or threat of poverty no one would accept dead-end jobs.
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  3034. Because it's not about thin profit margins, it's about power and control. Corporate and political leaders need their workforce to be poor and desperate, and this requires workers to not have any bargaining power. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that politicians deem unacceptable.
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  3035. @avinashtyagi2  Yeah, that is disgusting, but you're right.
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  3036.  @anthonytwohill9726  exactly.
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  3037.  @zcorpalpha2462  lol
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  3038. Wow
    2
  3039. That's depressing.
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  3040. This is EXACTLY why I will NOT lose my virginity to an escort.
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  3041.  @ik7578  that doesn't change the problem of low pay.
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  3042.  @ik7578  I can't be a nuclear engineer and full-time college student at once. I'm low income now and require scholarships and grants to pay for school.
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  3043. @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty  the idea that if you just work hard enough everything will be fine, is a classic example of the just-world fallacy.
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  3044.  @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty  When I went to higher education I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country.
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  3045.  @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty  yes. I hate people punching down the poor.
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  3046.  @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty  I don't understand why someone expects everyone to be a plumber or lawyer.
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  3047. I'd pay all executives $7.25 for life to make them feel their employee's pain.
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  3048.  @Nimish204  it was said in the video he was disabled from birth.
    2
  3049. I cried laughing reading this
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  3050. Yep
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  3051.  @gilianrampart8514  LOL.
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  3052.  @hmnhntr  my replies are gone
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  3053.  @undaware  that's worse
    2
  3054.  @JathraDH  what you're saying is you believe people should have to "earn" their way out of poverty.
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  3055.  @JathraDH  1. It is a matter of should. 2. Inflation is an acceptable risk when it comes to helping the poor. 3. Nobody would quit their jobs because people don't need poverty to be motivated to work. Doctors, lawyers, etc. none of these professions would go away just because their basic needs were met. 4. You're admitting you want poverty to exist in order to ensure society's menial jobs get done. 5. Here's a thought...have those jobs filled without poverty, not with it. Either support living wage laws or automation of menial work. 6. You're implicitly also arguing why welfare for the poor is hated. Welfare Programs disincentives work, According to politicians. What it's actually meant by this is the income grants of welfare exceeds what can be earned by working menial jobs. Which eliminates the financial incentive and pressure of the poor to do such jobs. Doctors and billionaires don't need welfare. Make sure everyone else who works doesn't demand welfare and problem solved.
    2
  3056.  @JathraDH  why do you think so? It isn't stupidity, it's common sense. Don't expect people to do such jobs with poverty. It's immoral.
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  3057.  @JathraDH  1. Poverty is a policy choice. You provide people with enough resources to not be poor. Simple, but not cheap. 2. People only would choose welfare over work if the work is dogshit. A doctor could quit their job and rely on food stamps. Why don't they? Because they make more money working than relying on welfare/charity. Welfare remains objectively better than working a dogshit minimum wage job. As long as this is the case, of course people will prefer welfare. No sane person would choose a dead-end job otherwise. Again, the blame here is on greedy corporations, not the poor. If unemployment benefits of a few hundred dollars or welfare is better than working, then the job has to pay more to entice people to work. Funny how the profit incentive is ignored when it comes to the lower class.
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  3058.  @cursorguy  and what jobs would many disabled people have? Minimum wage or below it, no skilled positions. It does not help to force people to work that are better off not working. Some people will need government assistance to survive. There aren't enough skilled positions to support everyone
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  3059.  @cursorguy  I see. I desire for people to work as well. I just dislike the idea that poor/disabled people who don't or can't work are worthless. Since we're on this topic I actually dislike what you said since people tend to have double standards I'll try to save this concisely as well: people expect the poor to "earn" their way out of poverty but have no such standard for the rich. Rich people receive trillions of dollars of inheritance that they didn't earn or work for. on top of receiving trillions of dollars of tax cuts that they also didn't earn or work for. They don't need to be forced to work or experience all of this suffering in order to not be poor. So why is it if rich people receive trillions of dollars of tax cuts for free, they work just fine. but if poor people receive a living wage or welfare all of a sudden they're lazy? that is a deep ideological problem that iis rooted in contempt.
    2
  3060.  @cursorguy  okay I'll be concise: yes people should work. yes capitalism is the best system. no system is perfect as long as scarcity exists or different ideologies. no system can be perfect. I still find it disgusting to believe people who are unwilling to work for poverty wages are deemed lazy.
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  3061.  @cursorguy  thank you. I'm taking a debate class next semester. I gotta be more concise.
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  3062. I agree.
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  3063. ​ @notyourtypicalwatchreview2563 who decides they aren't worth it? You?
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  3064.  Ash Hegde  College is over $100,000. Nobody making 7.25 an hour is saving up that much money in a few months.
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  3065.  Ash Hegde  you're just trolling so I'm going to stop responding to you. Goodbye.
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  3066. Yep
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  3067. Because restricting welfare is about forcing the poor into low wage labor markets. Being a CEO isn't a dead-end job, being a cashier is
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  3068. that is EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE STUDENT LOANS. Because USA wants education to serve only rich people
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  3069. I can't afford tuition at a community college. Even if there was no tuition, I can't afford healthcare without Medicaid and I lost my food stamps because of work requirements
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  3070.  @M123Xoxo  why can't we have an honest news media company?
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  3071. Side note, over 86% of those loans were forgiven, but we are still having the debate over forgiving student loans.
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  3072.  @nairsheasterling9457  I'm no real estate expert but it seems like Los Angeles could just build hotels for its poor like how New York City has expensive hotels for rich people I don't get how homeless people exist. If hotels exist that cost $80k per month i don't get why anyone is homeless.
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  3073.  @nairsheasterling9457  so basically they only want to build homes for middle-class and rich people because it's more profitable short-term? And also disdain for helping the poor?
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  3074.  @nairsheasterling9457  so you're meaning to tell me America could literally overnight build 7 million or so homes for its poor residents? Permanent, middle class homes?(not crappy apartments)
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  3075.  @nairsheasterling9457  well yeah I didn't mean in one day but I meant to say a year to four(length of presidential term). So you have made me sad knowing USA could end homelessness AND provide decent homes for the poor. Now that you make me think about it I just realized the housing market is inherently messed up. If everyone already had a decent home the housing Market would crash since no one would need to buy housing anymore. It would be like inventing a magic weight loss pill that makes you the weight you want and keeps you that way forever. It would keep people healthier but all of the people who profit off of continually making food would go bankrupt.
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  3076. Yep.
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  3077. ​@Kelly Bo Belly And they are kept part time to avoid becoming eligible for benefits.
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  3078. @Kelly Bo Belly  It's funny you mention statistical analysis and data sets. I keep a picture saved on my phone that has a collection of the most common data fallacies, that also apply to politics. Survivorship bias is one. That's what most conservatives believe to justify them succeeding versus poor people failing. There's regression to the mean, and many others
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  3079. @Kelly Bo Belly  Really , if you judge the quality of america by how the poor live, then america would be a third-world country. I'm a cashier at a supermarket. I make 10.50 an hour. I Work 28 hours a week because if I worked anymore, I'd be eligible for benefits. I am offered no way to be promoted, and there is no way to pay for college. To be more specific, there's no upward mobility, and even if I could get promoted, I would only make thirteen dollars an hour, which isn't worth it. Their "college tuition reimbursement" is $2,500 a year. Since college is over $10,000 a year, I would essentially have to work 4 years to pay for one year of college.
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  3080.  @voulafisentzidis8830  I said many people believe poor people don't deserve to survive or thrive.
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  3081.  @gardenswithsoul  disability aid is structured horribly. The government limits how much money disabled people can make and there is a marriage penalty.
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  3082. @KolyaGerasimov-CWA yep
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  3083.  @Azerfield  yep.
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  3084. They'll stay poor. That's the point
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  3085. I'm poor and socially inept virgin incel loser
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  3086. Correct.
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  3087. Correct.
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  3088. Exactly.
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  3089. That's heart breaking
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  3090.  @Zach-ju5vi  the profit margin is not what I'm talking about.
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  3091. @Zach  and thus you're more concerned with profit margins vs workers making a living wage.
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  3092.  @dancorkill7033  Your premise is incorrect: corporations don't care about ending poverty, neither do politicans. It isn't like women's suffrage where we all universally want women to be able to vote and have as much freedom as possible.
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  3093.  @dancorkill7033  What? All i'm saying is American society fundamentally believes women deserve to vote, we do NOT believe all workers deserve a living wage, much less a thriving wage. Economics has nothing to do with it.
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  3094.  @Zach-ju5vi  What I'm saying is this is truly about values, not simply profit margins. The heart of the minimum wage debate really isn't about the minimum wage: it's about we value, what we prioritize. If society, not just corporations, or politicians, but society as a whole, truly thought working and being in poverty was unacceptable, we would accept whatever risks, whatever prices, whatever consequences that came our way, in fighting against it. If profit margins were slimmer, inflation surged, unemployment increased, the deficit went up, in providing workers $15/hr or 20(let's just say the wage increase cancelled out what's spent on welfare, thus ensuring workers did not need it), then we would accept those consequences. We do not like dealing with these consequences. Therefore, we don't ideologically believe poverty is unacceptable. Once you understand this, then you'll see economics has nothing to do it. If I singlehandely eliminated the deficit, Biden would still lose no sleep over poverty's existence. Or Sinema or Manchin,etc.
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  3095. You support a higher minimum wage?
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  3096.  @j10001  union busting and service sector jobs have transformed this country into a low wage nation.
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  3097.  @ANDROLOMA  exactly
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  3098. Because she's rich. Getting government money is bad because if you're poor. Fox News logic.
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  3099. As a cashier at a supermarket, I'm kept part time so I'm ineligible for benefits like paid time off and paid sick leave. I cry because when I got COVID, without paid sick leave, I literally was left to die. I already make $10.50 an hour.
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  3100.  @frankgenner782  because he didn't care to. He doesn't deem poverty intolerable like rape.
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  3101. " Rights Don't come with responsibilities. The government doesn't have to do that." - Gun nut Jon " Why is it OK for the government to regulate speech for children?" Gun nut" Because the government has a responsibility to maintain the right-" " I'm sorry?"
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  3102. Exactly. But those countries aren't run by heartless politicians.
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  3103.  @SchmigatheSoulja  lol yep. I have a SPECIAL hatred for USA.
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  3104. ​ @impudentquips yep
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  3105. I feel your pain
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  3106. Is that really legal in America?
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  3107. I'll make that video.
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  3108. Read a nytimes post by ezra klein: what the rich don't want to admit about the poor. He says ubi(or rather GMI) would give workers too much bargaining power. That worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once
    2
  3109. You're saying George was unimportant?
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  3110.  @nexus1g  he was a human being wrongfully killed by the police. It shouldn't matter if someone is murdered that it depends on if that person was rich or poor.
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  3111. I'm an incel and virgin. However, I'm poor.
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  3112. because right wingers want poverty to exist. They treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  3113. Poor people can't afford to run for office
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  3114. Poor people can't afford to do that.
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  3115. ​@Alexander McBrien he believes in just-world fallacy, he thinks society has no flaws and hard work always prevails.
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  3116. Yep.
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  3117. I had to quit being a cashier at a supermarket because I made $10.50/hr, and NC is anti union.
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  3118. Not everyone can move. Not everyone SHOULD move. If Florida legalized rape, the right choice isn't to give up and leave, but fight that unjust law
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  3119. Because a sex worker is doing exactly that...sleeping with you as a job. I want to lose my virginity, but I want to experience intimacy even more. Intimacy i's something you can't buy. I can't pay a woman to like me.
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  3120. i'm 29 now, and I'm STILL a FREAKING VIRGIN INCEL.
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  3121.  @caledunsmore  my replies keep getting deleted so I can't respond to anyone
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  3122.  @caledunsmore  being a cashier is a dead-end job
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  3123. I can't afford to move.
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  3124. Yep.
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  3125.  @mickmccrory8534  Thank you.
    2
  3126. Exactly.
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  3127. I used to be incel.
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  3128. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
    2
  3129. Poverty exists to ensure society's dead-end jobs get done
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  3130. If the poor are on welfare it's "bad" but when the rich are on welfare it's an "investment."
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  3131. What exactly is stopping these companies from firing people just under the threshold for eligibility? In my state I receive similar benefits like this but I have to work full time, so I'm kept part-time.
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  3132. Also 86% of PPP loans were forgiven but we "cannot" cancel student debt.
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  3133.  @kimberlychodur3508  thank you brother.
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  3134. The truth about politics is more fundamental than even the existence of scarcity. It is about our values. The true test of someone's character, lies in what they are unwilling to do. And that is the truth of our politics. What we value as a society is the prices we are unwilling to pay. The risks we do not want to take. The consequences we do not want to accept.
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  3135.  @mskyn150  I believe you.
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  3136.  @mskyn150  I'll stay hopeful:)
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  3137.  @dmunjal  don't forget corporations have eliminated profit sharing for their workers. Most corporations pay workers by skill, not profitability. Places like Chick-fil-A make Millions of dollars at each location. Their profit levels are so high they could pay their cashiers $100,000 a year.
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  3138.  @isaacmontoya9144  yep.
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  3139.  @JimClark2005  exactly.
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  3140.  @professional.commentator  I consider "entry-level" jobs to be dead-end since they give you no skills.
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  3141.  @professional.commentator  I'll stop complaining now.
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  3142. I work at a supermarket where 75-78% of sales come from food stamps. Every. Single. Day.
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  3143. I made $10.50/hr with no benefits.
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  3144.  @rzq100  LOL
    2
  3145. I've never had sex and I'm 30.
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  3146. But when you're a millionaire it doesn't matter
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  3147. Damn that was brutal to read.
    2
  3148. 1. I'm purchasing car insurance tomorrow. Then I'll be planning on getting my driver's license within the week afterwards. 2. Pass my driving test 3. Get a job 4. Use money to own a car 5. I'm returning to community College on campus this upcoming Fall. 6. I'll be doing an internship next fall too
    2
  3149. I got driver's license
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  3150. I'm still a virgin
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  3151. That's what JD wants
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  3152. He also could forgive student loans and make college free on his own.
    2
  3153. He could've ended poverty.
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  3154. Corporations support immigration because they want labor forces who can't afford to argue and will work hard for low rates of poverty.
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  3155. It's called just-world fallacy. Conservatives believe that all criminals are bad and all people who abide by the law are good, so Justice "should" be about punitive measures not rehabilitative.
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  3156. ​@J Dice As long as politicians profit off of prisons and believe in their conservative ideals, nothing will change.
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  3157. ​@J Dice if these politicians became poor if their approval ratings dropped below a certain percent, or they were on welfare themselves, they would change.
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  3158. Also politicians fight minimum wage increases because they don't believe minimum wage workers like myself deserve a living wage😮
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  3159. If I was a doctor demanding $15/hr they would then raise the minimum wage to $80/hr.
    2
  3160.  @jdice6868  yep. I hate them
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  3161.  @scottmcloughlin4371  Couldn't federal government break up corporations that have gained above a certain market threshold?
    2
  3162. Yep
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  3163. Many capitalists love poverty because a. they believe in the myth of meritocracy. In capitalist' eyes, everyone can become anything they want with effort and skill alone, luck either doesn't exist or is not a contributing factor. Thus, if you are poor, you had the option to become middle class or rich and being poor is your fault. Helping the poor become better off is like me getting medical degree just because i asked for it. in both cases people get something they "did not earn." Secondly, many republicans want to preserve the income and social class structure which exists right now. They have a fundamental belief that some jobs have value and others do not. A CEO making 32 million a year is making too little but a waiter making 32k is making too much. In many people's eyes, not all workers deserve to be rich. ceos deserve to be rich, unskilled workers deserve to be poor, STEM workers deserve to be middle class. In other words, there should always be a permanent upper, middle, and lower class with also vast differences in standard of living.
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  3164. Yes
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  3165. ​ @Darkstarr-ud2go yep
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  3166. Except rich people receive trillions of dollars of your tax money. Yet they still work. Stop with the double standard.
    2
  3167. Thank you 😊
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  3168. ​ @JohnA...  That's messed up
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  3169.  @JohnA...  I desire a new amendment: one job must pay enough for people to not be in poverty. If you're working you won't be poor.
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  3170.  @omarthescriblomale8279  there's quite literally a living wage mit calculator that has done that for every city in the US. Try again. I don't know what you mean by "not worth?" These workers are working for multi-billion dollar corporations. They are worth far more than even $15 an hour. Even $30.
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  3171. I WANT TO LOSE MY VIRGINITY TODAY.
    2
  3172.  @valerielhw  you are correct. I'm poor myself.
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  3173. Poverty is like women's suffrage, a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity. The right Wingers are fundamentally opposed to policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class.
    2
  3174. Being a cashier is a dead-end job. I make $0.50 above starting pay after 7 years.
    2
  3175. it's called survivorship bias.
    2
  3176. I'm incel virgin. I've asked women if they want to take my virginity. It never works. Now I sit at home
    2
  3177. It's ambiguous
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  3178. ​ @Slo-ryde  you believe in just-world fallacy.
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  3179. ​ @Slo-ryde  the percentage of people who have escaped poverty is very low.
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  3180. Correct.
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  3181. What you're really saying is you deem rising worker power, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
    2
  3182. That's messed up
    2
  3183. No bailout students. They deserve a break.
    2
  3184. But poor people like myself can't change anything, I don't have money. I'm risking homelessness and starvation while going to school.
    2
  3185. To spite Wal-Mart i would have overtime pay kick in immediately for its hourly workers, as in hour one. Then fine Walmart if it fired any worker or cut back hours.
    2
  3186.  @salex3873  yes.
    2
  3187. ​ @youtubesucks1499 minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Being a cashier is a dead-end job
    2
  3188. Yep. It's fucked up.
    2
  3189. Welfare is restricted because poor people don't work minimum wage jobs otherwise
    2
  3190. Effort is not reward. College and healthcare are unaffordable. Every job should afford decency.
    2
  3191. Poverty is a policy choice And our politics Is choose to enact it over and over again.
    2
  3192. These "low skill" workers make and serve the products that make all the money for their respective corporations.
    2
  3193.  @lizicadumitru9683  what causes sexual violence then? I think rape is not about lack of sex but control.
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  3194.  @Morderiser  one that is anecdotal. Two that doesn't change the fact you aren't guaranteed aid if you're poor. Three there are millions of jobs that pay under a living wage even for a single person, let alone family. Four college could be tuition free anyway.
    2
  3195.  @Morderiser  why would quality education go down under free college?
    2
  3196.  @Morderiser  skilled workers like doctors and lawyers are not affected by minimum wage laws.
    2
  3197. George Carlin.
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  3198. Women can hook up with men from their inner circles.
    2
  3199. Chic fil a, with that pay scale you described, would pay cashiers around $100,000/year.
    2
  3200. So basically if everyone lost their job only millionaires and billionaires could weather the storm. Which is messed up.
    2
  3201. ​ @hWat-Ever lol
    2
  3202. Because the American economy runs on poverty, or at least the threat of it. American consumers demand cheap and quick consumer goods, and these two things together require millions of people willing to work for pathetic wages at dead-end jobs. Politicians respond by using the whip of poverty, not higher wages, to keep workers in place.
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  3203. I agree
    2
  3204. That's depressing.
    2
  3205. I'm not a loser
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  3206. That's messed up
    2
  3207. In other words they need workers to be poor and desperate to accept low wages and no benefits
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  3208. Lol you know how many rich people would be mad?
    2
  3209. That's messed up but I went through that as well.
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  3210. Yep. If profit sharing was restructured, cashiers at places like Chic fil a would make around $100,000/year.
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  3211. I work as a cashier at a supermarket. My boss rejected me making $20/hr. Even $17/hr. Instead I was forced to take on $10.50/hr. And part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits like PTO and health insurance. And tuition reimbursement is only $2,000/yr when college costs $10,000/yr so there's no purpose in applying.
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  3212.  @bane3991  not everyone is qualified for financial aid or loans. There aren't enough scholarships for all poor people to go to college.
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  3213.  @bane3991  I'm past the age of 25 and have no kids or disabilities. You truly believe, from the bottom of your heart, that I could escape poverty if I wanted to?
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  3214. Your whole argument here, is that some people should live in poverty.
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  3215. ​ @noahd213 thank you
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  3216. That was hurtful to read.
    2
  3217. My standards are 0, but the problem is I'm poor. I have no driver's license or car. At 28. And I have $2 in my bank account.
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  3218. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  3219.  @davidhunternyc1  yes. I desire to be a journalist to report on poverty and other economic issues.
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  3220. Hunter was joking
    2
  3221. My job keeps me part time so I don't receive health insurance
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  3222. Perfect analogy
    2
  3223. That's messed up
    2
  3224. My grocery store offers tuition reimbursement but only for full-time employees so they keep everyone part-time.
    2
  3225.  @hombre-lobo5673  you're right. I'm not dumb, I just need to grow up. If I truly desired sex I must realize having sex is a privilege. I must either pay for it or work for it. It is no woman's job to sleep with me, date me, or take care of my wants in any way.
    2
  3226.  @LiannaBabeli  yep. There are way more poor people than rich people. But both parties ignore the poor
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  3227. $5,000 a month would be a better UBI. The problem is UBI that could lift people out of poverty would pay more than minimum wage jobs.
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  3228.  @steves6756  it isn't supply and demand. Employers can and do suppress wages because every worker is expendable and even if they weren't, the employer incurs no cost to ensure its workforce's well-being. Almost everything is a commodity now: Health Care, housing, education, Etc., and with most people strapped for cash, they WILL work for wages they dislike.
    2
  3229. It's about money, the rich live off production. The poor live off taxation.
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  3230.  @lewisbaitup6352  that's messed up.
    2
  3231.  @lewisbaitup6352  that's evil
    2
  3232.  @lewisbaitup6352  my mom died and I can't even graduate community college because I can't get healthcare without Medicaid
    2
  3233.  @lewisbaitup6352  yes. A situation I know Kamala Harris won't fix.
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  3234. ​@hsmd4533 not enough to justify work requirements.
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  3235. Couldn't he forgive 100% of student loans?
    2
  3236. It's about empathy.Conservatives often can not understand the circumstances of someone's life that's far different from their own.
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  3237.  @Camazotz-kz9wr  Exactly.
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  3238.  @Camazotz-kz9wr  with just a 4% annual inflation adjustment(1970-2020)the minimum wage would be around $42/hr today.
    2
  3239.  @Camazotz-kz9wr  crazy college costs.
    2
  3240.  @Camazotz-kz9wr  it's like a paradox. People say cashiers aka minimum wage jobs are worthless and tell them to get some white-collar "skilled" job...that requires a college education. So in order to pay for a college education you need to already have a job that requires a college education. That's like medical school only accepting people who already have medical degrees.
    2
  3241.  @Camazotz-kz9wr  thank you brother it means a lot. Btw in the year since I first posted here I enrolled back into community college, work as a cashier, and participate in a mathematics-physics internship. My dream is to get a huge scholarship that will allow me to focus entirely on school. I ultimately want to become an astrophysicist.
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  3242.  @Camazotz-kz9wr  thank you. Obviously I can't get $10 million instantly LOL. The question was more political. Like would you believe I deserved it? I notice that conservatives tend to hate anything policy wise which helps the poor or hinders the rich. That question lets me figure out usually where a person is politically. I see Fox news saying a CEO "only" makes *$100 million*(I'm not kidding) but cries that a $15/hr minimum wage is a job killer.
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  3243. I have 29 days left until I'm 29 years old. I tell myself I'll lose my virginity before I'm 29.
    2
  3244. I'm 29 now. I'm still a virgin.
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  3245. @schlafschafweb  1. You're right. Either a woman likes me or not. I should be honest with my intentions. I can't buy or force respect or love 2. I'll remind myself I'm in community college and applying for scholarships. I can turn my life around. I'm a decent man 3. I've deleted all the incel links/social media platforms besides YouTube 4..I'll apply to jobs. I will work on a school campus. I don't want to work minimum wage ever again.
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  3246. Because many people hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty. They see working in fast food or retail as a punishment.
    2
  3247. Because it's about enforcing punitive justice
    2
  3248.  @RuleofFive  i believe rich people are the root cause of all of the suffering in capitalism.
    2
  3249.  @joycewible8816  thank you. I'm liberal myself but I try to help people with different opinions agree.
    2
  3250. ​ @codymoe4986 why the disdain for fast food workers?
    2
  3251. It's easier to complain than to change.
    2
  3252. Autistic people can find love.
    2
  3253. Wow
    2
  3254. $25/hr minimum wage,25-35% profit sharing, mandate unions
    2
  3255. I've been called a socially inept Virgin. I don't want to lose my virginity to a prostitute.
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  3256. Inflation may be a real risk, but the truth or our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. And it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that you find unacceptable.
    2
  3257. @Rolando Mota  And if every single low wage worker quit, then there would be no one to serve you. Just say you're comfortable with people working, not making a living wage. And college isn't affordable for the poor.
    2
  3258.  @dansmodacct  if raising the minimum wage destroys businesses then so be it, the system is the problem
    2
  3259.  @dansmodacct  Yes. I'm willing to accept whatever risks in fighting against poverty.
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  3260.  @destinal_in_reality  sounds good too.
    2
  3261. Yep
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  3262.  @Mogorman87  the top 1% pay 48% of income taxes, the top 10% pay 98%.. Yeah with that context you're right.
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  3263.  @nosuchthing8  I understand now
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  3264. Housing crisis is a policy choice
    2
  3265. That's messed up.
    2
  3266. That's messed up.
    2
  3267. Except what you aren't seeing is corporations want to depress wages. Corporations support immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
    2
  3268. ​ @himenyx153 because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    2
  3269. Ok
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  3270. They spend more money on union busting than providing benefits.
    2
  3271. Twenty dollars a month? I couldn't afford food on twenty dollars a week.
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  3272. You need to read Herbert gans, "Functions of poverty." Rich people and conservatives actually don't want poverty to end for 13 reasons. The first, and biggest reason, is to ensure society's "dirty" work gets done. Would someone with $1 billion, a medical degree, or both accept being a cashier? No. Even if they did, they wouldn't work for $9/hr. Actually obtaining extreme wealth and job skills are not desired by the right, in order to force poor people accept crappy jobs.
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  3273.  @Juniversal  it's an essay It's free online and it's. Good read.
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  3274. It's called hating the poor.
    2
  3275.  @Corey-k4m  yes. It's sickening how politicians cause so much suffering to the poor and disabled
    2
  3276.  @Corey-k4m  it's a double standard to have income limits for the poor and unskilled but not the rich and skilled. Imagine if Billionaires and doctors had income caps.
    2
  3277. Thank you.
    2
  3278. ​@DalazG the problem is corporations desiring to depress wages
    2
  3279.  @tinkerbellrochester7021  exactly. The problem is corporations, not workers.
    2
  3280. ​ @dontmisunderstand6041 he believes in just-world fallacy
    2
  3281. ​ @Abyzz_Knight yep. Admitting luck exists undermines just-world fallacy.
    2
  3282. They don't want to improve themselves.
    2
  3283.  @wresling300  I got this. I'll be going out more. This month, I've aimed to go out twice week. Sports bars, pubs, musical, orchestra, anime convention, comedy club.
    2
  3284.  @wresling300  I got this!
    2
  3285.  @loundclear9279  you must be trolling because I'm talking about the desires of politicians, not myself.
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  3286.  @jingbot1071  yes. My aunt told me two things define politics and life: risk and context. She said in both economics and ideology: all priorities are not created equal. What we consider the top priority are based on the risks we refuse to accept. What we are not willing to tolerate. Many middle class people are too scared of a system where the working poor does not exist.
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  3287. @Briansan101 Lol.
    2
  3288. I work a minimum wage job. However I'm enrolling back in school next semester and have applied to several college research projects. I wish to become a physics major, and tv journalist one day. But first I must grow up: time management. Stand up for myself. Embrace change. Know spanish and automotive engineering. Etc. I just want a career, college education and independence.
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  3289.  @saadiasheikh5744  okay but when I do vote politicians still ignore the poor.
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  3290.  @deepattison9329  yes. It wasn't expanded in time, so she lost her essential Medicaid benefits (when I turned 26), and I lost medicaid too because I was ABAWD. in fact, now I can't get food stamps because the work requirements were reinstated. I'm lucky I have family to support me.
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  3291. It isn't fair.
    2
  3292. I'm trying to escape
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  3293. @parkermudsen1063  my comment was sarcasm.
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  3294.  @chrisking6695  it is investing. But like I said, helping the poor to the magnitude of erasing student loans proves poverty is a policy choice.
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  3295. @chrisking6695  that's the problem: In America, helping the poor escape poverty is deemed unacceptable because without poverty's existence, no one would work minimum wage jobs. Poor people will not work for slave wages if they have government benefits- free college, Healthcare, affordable housing, etc.
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  3296. Also, many Americans hate poor people getting benefits because they are other wallet warriors. An other wallet warrior is someone who gets upset when other People get just as good as things, if not better things, for free than they themselves got through hard work. Thus, they feel like poor people don't deserve welfare.
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  3297.  @louis1443  he is a troll.
    2
  3298.  @wesleystreet  yep.
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  3299.  @ericmoll1530  yes. I'll be more clear next time.
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  3300. ​ @Shannon4710 exactly
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  3301. He makes $28 million a year. That's over 1,000:1 ratio.
    2
  3302.  @robbieceez7052  no mate....just no.
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  3303. Lol nice. McDonald's CEO makes $28 million a year
    2
  3304. He wanted affection, not just sex.
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  3305. Yep
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  3306. I don't vote
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  3307. Adam Smith stated it best.employers cannot individually contest a corporation.
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  3308. Exactly
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  3309.  @jacksfather  that's messed up.
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  3310. They pay $11 for most workers.
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  3311. You're arguing for population control. That's disgusting
    2
  3312. Because they believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class
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  3313. Because dating apps favor women over men. I'm a 27 year old virgin. I can't ask women IRL for sex. I Can on tinder if it ever worked.
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  3314.  @julienwoodstock5546  you're right I've been making excuses.
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  3315.  @randyprice5392  thanks. He made an essay called "uses of poverty, how the poor pay all." The biggest positive functions of poverty are to ensure people are willing to do society's lower end jobs, that are undesirable but necessary. To help feed the military industrial complex, prisons/courts/police.
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  3316. Hookers don't offer genuine affection.
    2
  3317. ​@dario34hhh except those men know deep down you can't buy affection. They pay money because they don't want to genuinely attract a woman.
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  3318. ​@dario34hhh I'm not losing my virginity to a prostitute.
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  3319.  @Mosquito-balls  I see. I would use a hooker if it wasn't illegal here.
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  3320. ​ @Mosquito-balls ok. Sounds doable.
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  3321. That's messed up
    2
  3322. They believe this to their core. It's called just world fallacy, and if the Republican is religious, Calvinism.
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  3323. i'm incel virgin at 29.
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  3324.  @alexwilks2848  okay I'll do that.
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  3325.  @alexwilks2848  how did you know I stayed at home and avoided women?
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  3326.  @alexwilks2848  I'll go out more. I'll go to comedy club again. I went to sports bar yesterday during college basketball game but I didn't approach women (I did some dudes).
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  3327.  @alexwilks2848  yes, avoiding women is my issue
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  3328. ​ @fluktuition  yep.
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  3329. Exactly.
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  3330. That's messed up too
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  3331. Yep
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  3332. Because sex gives you happiness.
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  3333. That's endless greed.
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  3334. I cried reading this.
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  3335. I'm in poverty at college
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  3336. Holy crap.
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  3337.  @old_grey_cat  if you work full-time, you get health insurance, paid time off, paid sick leave, retirement benefits, and other perks. When I was a cashier I made $10.50/hour. Since my employer wasn't willing to pay me even $20/hour they weren't going to cover the full cost of healthcare for me
    2
  3338. ​ @tazmanian1033 I got my driver's license.
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  3339.  @dmmag8037  What's the right pay these workers deserve?
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  3340.  @kungfreddie  it's obvious there are different costs of living. That has already been calculated.
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  3341.  @dmmag8037  I'm not saying janitorial workers should be making $250,000 a year but asking for even $50k at this point is reasonable.
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  3342.  @dmmag8037  I agree. Every worker. Cashiers. Janitors. Everyone. I find it sad hedge fund manager make billions yearly(Steve cohen makes $2 billion a year) and Fox News drools over it, but demonizes people who make $11/hr.
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  3343. @Hunter nediB  I'm in community college, I want to get an Associate’s of Science degree. Then bachelor's of science degree. A physics degree, In Other words.
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  3344. @Gyan Devi  Truthfully, i believe worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. Doctors can refuse to work for $10/hr. Cashiers can't. Minimum wage workers, and most workers in general, do not possess the skills/power of doctors. If everyone did, no one would accept poverty wages. I also believe the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. And it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that America finds unacceptable. It is more important to political and business leaders to fight against workers having more bargaining power(living wage, unions, sectoral bargaining) than to fighting against their impoverishment.
    2
  3345.  @gyandevi3361  thanks for listening to my rant.
    2
  3346.  @gyandevi3361  thanks. It's why i desire journalism. To speak up for the poor. And other injustices too.
    2
  3347. Ok
    2
  3348. Give them a dime raise every year.
    2
  3349.  @wolphin732  social safety net? They'd raise the minimum wage to $80/hr in a heartbeat.
    2
  3350.  @wolphin732  damn I was being too generous.
    2
  3351. @jimbob9407  hello troll.
    2
  3352.  @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty  exactly.
    2
  3353. ​ @shadowldrago he's a troll
    2
  3354. That movie was hysterical.
    2
  3355. This comment makes me sad and angry.
    2
  3356. Women aren't incels
    2
  3357. What women can they get?
    2
  3358. Trump is rich enough to make legal battles too costly.
    2
  3359. Wow.
    2
  3360.  @grandcentral3007  I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. How is that enough to live on? Not to mention I work 28 hours a week.
    2
  3361. I can't afford the $10,000/year tuition at my community College, nor does the community college system offer enough money to cover living expenses. I was forced to get private health insurance after losing medicaid, and I still lack dental and vision coverage.
    2
  3362. Now you're getting it​ @MrFearDubh 
    2
  3363. Blame Reagan for this. He created a spike in tuition in order to lock poor people out of higher education
    2
  3364. You'd either be torn to shreds by gravitational tidal forces or disintegrated by gravitational blueshifting or by negative matter.
    2
  3365. ​ @soulblack621 then what?
    2
  3366.  @soulblack621  then support higher wages for workers.
    2
  3367.  @soulblack621  The real political problem with robust welfare programs isn't the costs, but the benefits. Even if it costed $5 to provide sufficient government aid to all poor people nationwide, politicians won't do it for this reason. If poor people made enough money to afford healthcare, childcare, etc. Without working, then they will never work jobs that don't provide them with said things- like minimum wage jobs.
    2
  3368. When the rich ask for money they're given a blank check and thus more than they asked for but when the poor ask for money they're given pennies with strings attached. Typical.
    2
  3369. Correct.
    2
  3370. Welfare has conditions.
    2
  3371. ​@wanderer202 I made $10.50/hr as a cashier. I worked 28 hours a week so I could never receive benefits. I could not be promoted. Tuition assistance was not enough to pay for college.
    2
  3372.  @haileyrobinson5191  no. It's my own fault.
    2
  3373.  Vt12365  that's alot of women
    2
  3374. But poor students can't
    2
  3375. I'm a virgin at 28. I'm getting there....
    2
  3376. Correct.
    2
  3377. Poverty is a policy choice.
    2
  3378. Because it's about deservedness. Conservatives don't believe poor people deserve government aid.
    2
  3379. @John Dew $250k/yr to raise a child? You're aware over half of workers make $40k a year or less right? Working 80 hours at WalMart($11) even with overtime isn't going to gross you $250k. Many people with college degrees don't make that kind of money and even if they did, that isn't enough to pay for a degree for their child anyway.
    2
  3380. @John Dew Also many people start out with higher paying jobs but get their pay cut...like during the outbreak. Again, employees have no say over wages, if they did, every working parent would be making $100k minimum( you'd need more than that in some places).
    2
  3381. Yep.
    2
  3382. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our politicians find unacceptable.
    2
  3383. That's disgusting.
    2
  3384. ​ @richardmark9161 exactly
    2
  3385. I believe you. But I don't want sex to solve my life, I just want to lose my virginity.
    2
  3386. That's the fallacy of relative privation.
    2
  3387.  @HalcyonSky42  yep. There's always a power imbalance.
    2
  3388.  @carycunningham9510  without debt and welfare I don't see how anyone in Usa can survive on 35k a year....
    2
  3389. @Martini4466  did I say immune to suffering? I said there being more severe problems doesn't lessen dealing with problems relatively not as bad. People having no healthcare in 3rd world countries doesn't make poor people only having healthcare through medicaid or being in the medicaid gap, somehow good by comparison.
    2
  3390.  @LiannaBabeli  thanks
    2
  3391. Able bodied is a moral term used to imply poor people don't deserve government assistance.
    2
  3392. You're right
    2
  3393. Chris rock
    2
  3394.  @davidpeppers551  I'd abolish at will employment
    2
  3395.  @nickthompson1812  it was a joke mate.
    2
  3396.  @sunshinesun101  Our country was a low wage nation long before that.
    2
  3397. If you could build a subluminal warp drive, it can accelerate to near the speed of light instantly without producing g-forces, you'd have a reactionless drive
    2
  3398. @Kanyarat Baker  I'm pretty sure California home prices are far higher than what most people can afford, especially compared to corporations who buy homes outright. Poverty can end. It's just that politicians have no desire to end it because worker solidarity and poverty can not exist at once.
    2
  3399. @Kanyarat Baker  my core premise, I don't know what you're not getting: there could be 0 mental illness, 0% property taxes, hell, no inflation either. Worker solidarity and poverty can not coexist. A doctor isn't becoming a cashier. If all workers could demand higher pay, if all workers had that much power, Noone would ever accept minimum wage jobs. Noone would accept jobs that they know day one won't pay their bills.
    2
  3400. That's the point, though. Minimum wage jobs don't get filled if poor people can access welfare, so welfare is restricted for this exact reason.
    2
  3401.  @Dennzer1  thank you I'll be less negative.
    2
  3402.  @TheThirdDaySH  I know
    2
  3403. ​ @erikkennedy8725 many people look down on minimum wage workers.
    2
  3404.  @HaHaThatIsFunny  1. I'm 29. I decided to pursue community college with the intent of transferring to a four year university and obtaining a Physics Degree 2. I left minimum wage work at 28. I haven't returned since and never will return to it again. 3. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. 4. Everyone cannot work their way up from minimum wage work, or go to college or trade school. 5. Society needs all types of jobs. 6. You're Arguing for poverty.
    2
  3405.  @HaHaThatIsFunny  everyone cannot go to college or trade school. Nor should they have to because society needs all types of jobs. So if someone cannot go to university or trade school, and is thus forced to work fast food, what then? They should stay in poverty?
    2
  3406.  @WonderDerek  there are not enough high paying jobs for everyone to work up to. This is what bootstrappers like you don't understand. Even if there was, people would be complaining, as they already have, that there is nobody to fill minimum wage jobs.
    2
  3407.  @Viviorko  actors require no education or training either, but don't receive disdain like fast food workers do.
    2
  3408.  @Viviorko  they receive criticism yes. But not for wanting a living wage like fast food workers do.
    2
  3409.  @Viviorko  I do support unions.
    2
  3410. It is for poor people
    2
  3411.  @mazzb305  why not a home purchase?
    2
  3412. $67 an hour if you're a single parent with 3 kids. That's not counting the cost of healthcare, education, or housing out of pocket.
    2
  3413. Yep
    2
  3414.  @cgarrand78  yep.
    2
  3415. It doesn't matter.
    2
  3416. It's intimacy.
    2
  3417. Yes
    2
  3418. Yes
    2
  3419.  @trappedinamerica7740  lol if the minimum wage was ACTUALLY $40 you could find endless people to work at concessions.
    2
  3420. He could forgive all debt and provide a loan for students that could pay for college and allow them to pay for housing while in college.
    2
  3421. Well, I've got good and bad news for you. I used to be incel and I don't hate women. I don't identify as incel anymore, but since I'm still a virgin despite desiring sex, other incels say I haven't ascended. I'm a virgin at 28. I'm kind and smart. Unfortunately. I'm so sad I can't attract women.
    2
  3422. I'm still a virgin at 29
    2
  3423.  @jeannekstrole6891  beautiful.
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  3424. ​ @aaliyahhenderson1888  I'm an incel. I'm fixing my life though. I do NOT hate women
    2
  3425. Corporations don't want to end poverty.
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  3426. Just-world fallacy
    2
  3427.  @KarlMarxFanClub  college is so expensive because the federal government puts no price caps on tuition. Decades ago state governments paid 90-95% of tuition costs, leaving students with a mere 5% of the cost. Now that cost is mostly on the students.
    2
  3428. The minimum wage has been at 7.25 for over a decade... I doubt a 15k yearly worker is buying stock.
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  3429. It's about power and control. Poverty and worker solidarity cannot both exist at once.
    2
  3430. @Suzy  correct. But what I'm saying is complete worker solidarity and poverty both can not exist at once. Employees have never held as much power and protections as corporations. If they did, corporations couldn't control workers through low wages anymore.
    2
  3431.  @JohnSmith-il7jn  they can turn a profit as long as their workers aren't in poverty.
    2
  3432.  @JohnSmith-il7jn  okay. And?
    2
  3433. @falconerd343  I believe that worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  3434. @falconerd343  yes. I used that as a Litmus test(I think that's how you spell it) when talking about political values. I ask people: what are the risks you refuse to accept? What are the prices you are unwilling to pay? What are the consequences you don't want to tolerate? When I applied this to corporations and politicians, and most other Americans, the result was terrible. I realized our country does not find poverty unacceptable like rape. The real reason there is any division in our political values at all is because we don't believe that all sources of suffering are wrong.
    2
  3435. That's messed up so much.
    2
  3436. Because politicians don't want to end poverty.
    2
  3437. It isn't just kids working minimum wage. Kids don't deserve to experience poverty either.
    2
  3438.  @TheNecessaryEvil  it doesn't change the fact someone has to work there and everyone isn't supported by family. You're arguing for poverty.
    2
  3439. Exactly.
    2
  3440. Awesome.
    2
  3441. Adjusting for inflation at 3% from 1980-2020. Minimum wage would be around 45/hr.
    2
  3442. ​ @imnotmike exactly
    2
  3443. Omnicorp.
    2
  3444. You're more concerned about not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage.
    2
  3445. Many higher paying jobs require a college degree.
    2
  3446. ​ @Solotv84 you're right. I'll change
    2
  3447. Corporations are corrupt.
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  3448. It would take 1% of GDP to end poverty.
    2
  3449. If money helps the rich it's an investment. If money helps the poor it's an entitlement. That is how politicians think.
    2
  3450.  @Thed538dhsk  i know. and the politicians know too. they just don't care because they aren't poor themselves.
    2
  3451. ​ @bodyloverz30 poor people like myself can't afford that.
    2
  3452. That sounds like the fallacy of relative privation. I would want my children to have a better life than me so they wouldn't have to suffer like I did.
    2
  3453. College prices can be capped by the government
    2
  3454.  @vdubz67  too bad. We all make sacrifices to do what is best for others.
    2
  3455. Disabled people fall in love too? Did you not see the video?
    2
  3456. A GMI is better since it would eliminate poverty. A ubi of that amount would require a job, which is like the "work requirements" of welfare. Having work requirements for welfare is wrong.
    2
  3457. ​ @mikey-wl2jt holy crap that's depressing.
    2
  3458. I want to be a political journalist so much. It's my dream.
    2
  3459.  @saxonderohan9723  Man. Money is a never ending problem(in the sense everyone needs or wants more of it).
    2
  3460.  @saxonderohan9723  that's all so messed up... So the government(city or state) doesn't enforce price caps? I also wonder why property taxes are used to fund schools since that would create rich and poor schools-and thus create rich and poor neighborhoods.
    2
  3461.  @saxonderohan9723  you'd literally need to be a millionaire or billionaire to afford a home there, it's crazy anyone who isn't rich owns a home at all. I wish there were caps on home prices and number of homes that can be purchased(maybe even lock wealthy people out from buying homes since they already have homes).
    2
  3462.  @saxonderohan9723  it seems like the bigger problem is that the federal government doesn't provide equal funding for all schools. Or if our country made sure property values didn't fluctuate that much. If we didn't have such a huge gap between the rich and the poor or if we had no rich or poor (people/homes) in the first place housing values wouldn't be so crazy.
    2
  3463. If the government helps rich people that's OK. If the government helps poor people that's when it isn't OK
    2
  3464. Stepping stone to what? Everyone cannot obtain additional skills
    2
  3465.  @spark300c  I agree but the people in charge of America have no desire to help the working-class; Only to perpetuate poverty and line their own pockets.
    2
  3466.  @StrangeDisposition  that is also true. I did the math and it's disheartening. A living wage for a single person in my city is $17/hr. For a family of four with me alone working a living wage is $55/hr. You used to be able to pay a year's worth of college tuition in a few weeks working minimum wage, for me to do the same thing now I'd need to make $89/hr. The median salary used to be 70% the cost of a home. 70% of $450k is $315k or $151/hr.
    2
  3467.  @StrangeDisposition  I don't think it's humanly possible for anyone to live off of the wages that exist now independently without welfare or debt.
    2
  3468.  @StrangeDisposition  yes. And these fox news anchors think that's okay.
    2
  3469. I'm kept part time to avoid being eligible for benefits
    2
  3470. Fox supports employers, not employees.
    2
  3471. Wow.
    2
  3472. Exactly.
    2
  3473. There are lazy employees in industries besides fast food....
    2
  3474. Poor people aren't politicians
    2
  3475. They fundamentally believe these jobs are worthless. If McDonald's could pay their cashiers $400k a year and only have to raise prices by one penny, fox would be against it.
    2
  3476. ​@Izzy haha.
    2
  3477. That's messed up.
    2
  3478. Conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage based on morals.
    2
  3479. Higher wages and higher profit sharing. Break up most corporations with severe limits on acquisitions and mergers. And poverty jobs will transform into middle class jobs.
    2
  3480. i'm lonely and sexless, but i'm not hateful.
    2
  3481. I don't desire a prostitute because the affection isn't genuine. Legalizing prostitution doesn't solve loneliness.
    2
  3482. " Rights Don't come with responsibilities. The government doesn't have to do that." - Gun nut Jon " Why is it OK for the government to regulate speech for children?" Gun nut" Because the government has a responsibility to maintain the right-" Jon: " I'm sorry?" That was a BRUTAL take down.
    2
  3483. I also realized something about politics. If our society truly cared about ending poverty, then it would tolerate whatever consequences in fighting against their poverty. We do this to ensure women have voting. But we have a fundamental belief that women deserve voting, so we are willing to tolerate these consequences. We do not like to tolerate the consequences of ending poverty. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty. Truthfully, people having everything else: from gun ownership to freedom of speech to healthcare to education, are all policy choices as well. And denying people these things is a choice we continue to make, and we can stop making it at any moment. We just choose not to because we've convinced ourselves that the changes that accommodate such a decision are simply too much to bear. In short, we believe women deserve to have voting. We don't believe people deserve to have anything else. That is a problem with human nature, not economics. On some level, women crying from being denied voting is unacceptable. people crying from being denied healthcare, a living wage, affordable college, any education at all, a clean environment is A OK.
    2
  3484. Look up guaranteed income by ezra Klein.
    2
  3485. It's rich as a measure of GDP. That ignores the fact wealth is neither produced nor distributed equitably.
    2
  3486. Yep. UBI empowers workers.
    2
  3487. What if i told you if that was the case walmart workers would make around $100,000 a year?
    2
  3488. Yep.
    2
  3489. You need matter replicators
    2
  3490. Yep.
    2
  3491. If women can be incels, why aren't they as mad and as male incels are?
    2
  3492. You're right
    2
  3493. But what conservatives are saying is that these jobs should remain "dirty" work
    2
  3494.  @godsgod1677  epic
    2
  3495. @Bunny Boo  i know denying benefits is common. I'm saying workers having more power means they'd choose higher wages and benefits. What I'm ultimately saying is the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
    2
  3496. I'm too poor to change
    2
  3497. @NotSoNormal1987  that's messed up
    2
  3498. They believe in just-world fallacy.
    2
  3499. ​ @Johnmdarlington  then argue for skilled workers to make more
    2
  3500. I'm 29. I've never kissed or had sex. I want to lose my virginity.
    2
  3501.  @shawnharris5734  conservatives believe only the rich and business owners provide value in society. The workers and the poor don't.
    2
  3502.  @duretihailu4026  music and film industry rely on intellectual property rights to make their owners wealthy.
    2
  3503. My personality is fine, but I'm still incel
    2
  3504.  @zemorph42  it's the same troll account I argued with him the other day.
    2
  3505.  @stonecrow00  wages are not like the weather, Something You observe and predict but can't control. If we as a society believed everyone deserves a living wage, then everyone would have it.
    2
  3506.  @stonecrow00  I think wages can be fixed in three ways: living wage. maximum wage, and higher profit sharing.
    2
  3507.  @stonecrow00  right. I have my theory that politics is ruled by no "equivalent exchange." That is, people provide policies they don't receive. Politicians provide 7.25 wage but make $200k a year. Provide no healthcare but receive cheap healthcare.
    2
  3508.  @bernapoeze3976  amazing
    2
  3509. Poor people? Medicaid?
    2
  3510. Exactly.
    2
  3511. I'm a virgin at 29
    2
  3512. LOL.
    2
  3513.  @SupDudes4ever  politicians did. Most men did not.
    2
  3514.  @elizaalmabuena  so men want to opt out of responsibility?
    2
  3515. There is no need to look down on fast food workers.
    2
  3516. Because poor people buy into just world fallacy too.
    2
  3517. Yep. Nice to see you again. Republicans hate workers gaining leverage over employers. Also, Republicans hate welfare for 2 reasons 1. They morally oppose policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class 2. Poor people will not work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    2
  3518. They only have contempt for the poor.
    2
  3519.  @lich109  yep. I call it selection bias. Also conservatives tend to believe in survivorship bias more than even God.
    2
  3520. Exactly
    2
  3521. Wow
    2
  3522. Exactly
    2
  3523. You're making a dumb argument. Not everyone can move on or move up. You act like everyone in America has a medical degree but chooses to be cashiers. If everyone woke up tomorrow, could all minimum wage workers be promoted? Could they all afford to go to a 4 year university? No. And minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
    2
  3524. I didn't know that at all.
    2
  3525.  @abdullaiq8610  wow. When I use amazon they just give me a full refund
    2
  3526. I've escaped incel mindset, I'm happy for this guy, but I'm still a virgin.
    2
  3527. Neither of those things is sex with another person.
    2
  3528. Dumbest shit I've ever heard.
    2
  3529.  @thedissidentleftist6997  that too
    2
  3530. ​ @rossington1680 yep.
    2
  3531.  @paulbonilla1250  receiving death penalty is too easy for them. that's cheating. i'd give joe biden a life sentence for every person in poverty in america.
    2
  3532.  @paulbonilla1250  i don't have to list off every single flaw of Biden's presidency or poverty to highlight the fact I dislike both.
    2
  3533.  @BurntheKremlin966  i know. America is evil....
    2
  3534.  @stephenbachman132  I desire to be 3 things career wise: astrophysicist, Screenwriter and science journalist. I'll work on one career at a time. The physicist part requires me getting my Associate's degree.
    2
  3535.  @hyuxion  I'm a human being? Part of society? Extremely intelligent?
    2
  3536.  @hyuxion  everyone has a voice and stake in society, but it seems like poor people like myself don't exist.
    2
  3537.  @hyuxion  my replies are gone
    2
  3538.  @hyuxion  I'm pretty sure her public salary is six figures. You make it seem like she's on welfare.
    2
  3539. That's because of greed. These people believe some people have value and others do not. Some deserve prosperity, others deserve destitution.
    2
  3540. Yes
    2
  3541. The point is to perpetuate poverty.
    2
  3542. So the whole problem is poverty. But fox news and laffer don't want poverty to end.
    2
  3543. On one end we have millionaires and billionaires. And on the other the working poor.
    2
  3544. I want to lose my vcard before I'm 30
    2
  3545. You can't buy intimacy
    2
  3546. Lol
    2
  3547.  @majeedmamah7457  exactly. If you start out poor, it is very difficult if not impossible to end up middle-class or rich. College is six figures, Healthcare is even more, housing is even more once you factor in maintenance, and there is also no federal job training program. And there are also no job Securities or protections
    2
  3548. Paying for a prostitute doesn't solve the problem of nobody loving you.
    2
  3549. This is a moral issue to you: you believe poor people simply don't deserve to make that much money.
    2
  3550. You don't have the right to tell other people how much money they deserve to make.
    2
  3551.  @ArthurTully  to lobby the government you need to be rich. So in order to not be poor you already have to not be poor.
    2
  3552. They're too much of cowards to do that.
    2
  3553. ​ @Khalkara I'll answer for him: the immigration debate persists because of inequality: women are considered equal to men. However, immigrants are NOT considered equal to us citizens. He sees other cultures as "inferior" to his own.
    2
  3554. The reason Medicaid is restricted is because politicians want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
    2
  3555. McDonald's opposes raising the minimum wage because they don't believe their employees deserve to make a lot of money.
    2
  3556.  @Nick84525  Correct.
    2
  3557. ​ @LesignerGirl I'm here. Yes, your reply was deleted. You can thank YouTube notification system being crappy. What did you say? I cried because I've never had sex or held hands at TWENTY NINE.
    2
  3558.  @LesignerGirl  I believe I will. Thanks for your help and feedback. Stay safe.
    2
  3559. Wow....
    2
  3560. Just world fallacy.
    2
  3561. ​ @jessicaluk74 women didn't create incels? By definition women deprive incels of sex
    2
  3562.  @Chocolate-vr9cm  I'm ugly too. And socially inept
    2
  3563.  @Chocolate-vr9cm  I can be more confident. I'm working on it. I won't give up on myself.
    2
  3564.  @Chocolate-vr9cm  thanks.
    2
  3565. I used tinder for years. It Doesn't work.
    2
  3566.  @Klonering  it's insane how tv journalists can make $4 million+ a year....
    2
  3567. Because you can't buy intimacy or affection.
    2
  3568. Work requirements exist in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs, since welfare compensation is higher than low wage employment.
    2
  3569. @KGRICK1  you don't work full-time at minimum wage. Even if you did, yes welfare is more. Unless you are suggesting a minimum wage worker can pay for healthcare without insurance.
    2
  3570. Politicians and Business Owners thrive off of poverty. They treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable. Rising worker power is treated with the whip of poverty, not higher wages.
    2
  3571. The core problem is that there are rich and poor people. Abolish extremely high income/wealth and extremely low income.
    2
  3572. Minimum wage 27/hr. Higher profit sharing. Maximum wage no more than 8 times the minimum. Rent control. Higher property taxes on corporate assets(they buy up properties and use them as tax havens or rent them out at high prices).
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  3573. What's ironic about your statement is in North Carolina, most fast food joints and supermarkets have those same things without a union. I'm a cashier at a supermarket and get all of those things. But I'm still poor. Why? Because of the obama care work mandate, I only get benefits if I work full time, so i'm forced to be kept part time. I got covid and lost a family member but without benefits I had to go right back to working, and I wasn't able to take care of myself without savings.
    2
  3574.  @charlesray9674  Greed is a choice. Kamala Harris would not accept $1 billion to deny women voting. Or consent. Or abortion. Nor twice that amount. Nor any amount. It's about values. About what deprivation and hardship we deem intolerable.
    2
  3575.  @Mydogslove2laugh  that's messed up.
    2
  3576.  @Mydogslove2laugh  yep
    2
  3577. Is there any hope for me as an incel
    2
  3578. Because politicians don't want to end poverty
    2
  3579. Exactly.
    2
  3580. Because one can happen, the other cannot.
    2
  3581. Ok
    2
  3582. That's messed up. Why do they believe that?
    2
  3583.  @TheOneNeo390  minimum wage jobs are dead-end, the employees are owed more money for doing the impossible
    2
  3584.  @francismarion6400  that deserves a living wage
    2
  3585.  @francismarion6400  enough to not be in poverty. Poverty is defined. Nobody deserves to be poor.
    2
  3586. @wilburt57  of course it moves. It's still a quantifiable metric. Living wage- enough money to support that worker and their family/household members without needing welfare or charity in order to survive. The debate over minimum wage isn't over the definition of poverty or the existence of unemployment, it is an attack on many people feel the poor and unskilled in USA do not deserve. Many Americans want poor, unskilled, and lower end workers to be forced to accept dead-end jobs and be under the boots of employers. And believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty so the middle class can have someone to look down on.
    2
  3587. Work requirements exist to force poor people in to minimum wage jobs
    2
  3588. Yeah, it's messed up.
    2
  3589. Then they'll raise the minimum wage to $80/hr in one day LOL.
    2
  3590.  @DisgruntledPeasant  I'll stay away from incel movement
    2
  3591. I'm sad
    2
  3592.  @MsRuneGirl  lolol oxymoron right?! But yes. I'm sad I'm a virgin but I'm changing.
    2
  3593.  @MsRuneGirl  thanks. Stay safe brother.
    2
  3594.  @MsRuneGirl  thanks. It's been hard....I lost my mom.
    2
  3595. Yep
    2
  3596. Wow
    2
  3597.  @Havenly87  i think rich people don't want to admit that poverty is necessary for them to be rich...
    2
  3598. Not for the poor.
    2
  3599. ​ @AndreB23 because he believes government money is only for the rich.
    2
  3600. I make $10/hour as a cashier. I can't pay an escort.
    2
  3601.  @FoldedCloak  prostitution is illegal everywhere in America except las vegas, Nevada. So I'd need to book a flight, hotel, car rental, etc. to go to Vegas. That's about $3,000-$5,000 on the low end. Some people spend $12k on a weekend in Vegas. Yeah, $12k is more than what I make working as a cashier for the whole year.
    2
  3602. Yes he is
    2
  3603. Thank you. I'm in extreme poverty. I want an Associate of science, bachelor's of science, bachelor's of arts major in communication, and PhD in astrophysics. But my top goal is fixing my health, then escaping poverty, then I'll truth to school I've decided I'm not going to work minimum wage jobs anymore, and I'll apply like crazy to scholarships and grants. I have a 1.2 GPA so I hope people understand my context. If I won a $420,000 scholarship like that Hanoi woman, I'd be fine. Ideally, I'd fix my health, get into shape, learn how to manage expenses, buy BCBS Health insurance, then car, and move out eventually. Then once I'm stable several months after that, return to school full-time.@
    2
  3604. I don't know
    2
  3605. Republicans scapegoat immigrants because immigrants have no voice in politics.
    2
  3606.  @martman1466  sounds good to me.
    2
  3607. Lol
    2
  3608.  @machsimillian14  share store's profits evenly with all the workers.
    2
  3609. Yep. But politicians are heartless.
    2
  3610.  @GrantPearson  my replies are deleted. But what I said is I want UBI. Rich people don't. Since rich people are in power, they'll fight tooth and nail against UBI.
    2
  3611. 10 million jobs most of which are low paying.
    2
  3612. The party doesn't want poor kids to be born
    2
  3613. Wow.
    2
  3614. Correct.
    2
  3615. If corporations paid people by profits and not skill sets cashiers at places like Chick-fil-A would make $100,000/year.
    2
  3616. Yep.
    2
  3617.  @tommyanomaly6193  it seems like this is all a scam. A 30-year mortgage is basically renting at that point. It's as if everything is designed to either trap people in debt or on welfare forever.
    2
  3618.  @tommyanomaly6193  I feel like rich people love poverty. I think part of that is the reason why welfare like Medicaid and food stamps aren't so generous, because nobody would dare go into slave wage jobs like food service if they had better alternatives. I sure wouldn't.
    2
  3619. Too much of a political risk.
    2
  3620. @PaulADAigle  sorry. I meant to elaborate. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. Medicare for all won't be implemented because the political risk is deemed too great. M4A would change healthcare even more than obamacare ever intended. On some level, this reveals that politicians do not deem it intolerable to deprive people of healthcare, much less affordable healthcare.
    2
  3621. I want a woman but I've never dated...
    2
  3622.  @ggeorge4144  yep.
    2
  3623. Read Herbert gans, functions of poverty.
    2
  3624. Trump put millions into poverty with his welfare restrictions, such as my family, and refused to reform healthcare, and passed multi-trillion dollar tax cuts that could've wiped out poverty and homelessness. The problem conservatives have is no matter how bad society is, it is never the system that has to change, but the individual.
    2
  3625. Because they believe the rich deserve money where as the poor don't.
    2
  3626.  @chachaguillotine187  our government is a joke.
    2
  3627. You don't have the right to shame poor people
    2
  3628. They believe poor people don't deserve government assistance but rich people do
    2
  3629. I'm a incel virgin at 29
    2
  3630. @randomcheese1719  sounds doable. Will do.
    2
  3631. It is intentional but it's about ideology. Corporate leaders are fueled by their ideology, like anybody else. The truth of our ideology lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not poverty, that our corporate leaders refuse to accept.
    2
  3632. Ok
    2
  3633. ​ @littlemisssunshine4982 I just want to lose my virginity. Then I'll stop being incel.
    2
  3634. But they make only a few dollars above it, and just like the federal minimum wage, their wage never increases.
    2
  3635. Dating apps don't work for me. I need to stop being poor and creepy, then I'll lose my vcard
    2
  3636.  @thewormloop6885  YouTube has shitty auto spam system that deleted your comments if you post alot.
    2
  3637. I'm a loser, yes. I need to have fame and fortune to get laid
    2
  3638. OK
    2
  3639. What?
    2
  3640. But that's the point, so big pharma CAN over charge
    2
  3641. Lol don't you realize? That's medical residency!
    2
  3642. Inflation?
    2
  3643. He doesn't care about poverty
    2
  3644.  @rogersmith7396  it's about priorities.
    2
  3645. Because poor people can't afford to run for office. I'd love to if my raise wasn't $0.50.
    2
  3646. You're correct. I've been lazy and entitled. I don't try hard enough.
    2
  3647. His axiom: rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor.
    2
  3648. 43% are poor
    2
  3649. Yep. It's about disabilities.
    2
  3650. I'm changing my personality and I'm still failing. I'm still a virgin.
    2
  3651.  @saliferousstudios  the international metric for poverty is artificially low.
    2
  3652. I'm on medicaid in USA But most doctors don't take medicaid and there are too long wait times. Make welfare a simple income grant and I could go to any doctor I want.
    2
  3653. Exactly.
    2
  3654. these politicians would raise it to $100/hr immediately.
    2
  3655.  @afry6400  Biden promised 15/hr minimum wage, universal healthcare, student loan debt forgiveness. Where is all that?
    2
  3656. It must be nice. I'll need a scholarship to afford to finish school. And I was a cashier making $10.50/hr. I can't even afford an apartment.
    2
  3657.  @sandyallessandrini5546  who can afford homes in cash in this country?
    2
  3658. You can't have poverty, and worker solidarity exist at once. Corporations choose the former to exist.
    2
  3659. It's disgusting here
    2
  3660. He thinks workers have the freedom to make a living wage without government intervention or collective bargaining.
    2
  3661. The point of work requirements is to ensure poor people don't receive too much help. If we had robust welfare programs, then nobody would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
    2
  3662.  @jascu4251  1.Force politicians themselves to be on the receiving end of their legislation. 2. Charge these hacks with corruption. If it was up to me, them lying on campaign promises would be akin to treason. 3. Limit money in politics(no more millionaire Congress people). 4. Have term limits.(no more than 2 terms).
    2
  3663.  @jascu4251  the only things i can think would be to hire more noble politicians. There's something called a direct initiative but it applies only on the state level. Basically citizens can vote on legislation themselves and legislature would have to pass it( bypasses politicians). A national direct initiative would require amending the constitution(which is next to impossible under the two party system).
    2
  3664.  @jascu4251  mate you're making me want to run as an independent.
    2
  3665. And why 2023? 1 trillion a day can be given to banks but a minimum wage increase takes years to implement?
    2
  3666. Biden alone could enact stronger anti trust laws and thus dismantle all corporate power in this country. He could raise wages for at least fed. Contract workers too.
    2
  3667.  @citizenx8710  how??
    2
  3668.  @prschuster  you are correct.
    2
  3669. I've lowered my standards to zero. I'm still a virgin.
    2
  3670. ​ @Merdle  I want to be a science journalist. Specifically, a science news anchor.
    2
  3671.  @dorleedee7702  poverty can end.
    2
  3672. Yep.
    2
  3673.  @WERC-lawyer  Correct. It's among their power to end poverty. It's not among their priorities.
    2
  3674.  @rahl163  that's slavery
    2
  3675.  @rahl163  I just don't get how politicians think making $7.25 an hour makes you Bill Gates.
    2
  3676. Yep. Poor people like myself have no voice.
    2
  3677. That's messed up
    2
  3678. Exactly.
    2
  3679. It doesn't happen.
    2
  3680. ​ @ArthurC.Stewart exactly
    2
  3681.  @ClokworkGremlin  wow.
    2
  3682.  @leholen381  400k/yr isn't enough to fund the secret service.
    2
  3683. The rich know this, they just don't care.
    2
  3684.  @LuisMendoza-pp9qi  I'm a loser because I'm a socially inept virgin with no career or interesting hobbies.
    2
  3685.  @LuisMendoza-pp9qi  you're right. I don't want to give up.
    2
  3686. That's my pronounced as an incel myself.
    2
  3687. Politicians are corrupt. They don't listen to the desires of poor people. And poor people don't run for office.
    2
  3688. Yes
    2
  3689. Because we don't believe healthcare is a right.
    2
  3690. Yep
    2
  3691. ​ @Saberwolves84 thanks for the heads up.
    2
  3692. Poor people like myself are ignored.
    2
  3693.  @michelleespino9814  yep
    2
  3694.  @michelleespino9814  my replies are gone
    2
  3695.  @Leafyfam  what does inflation have to do with what I said?
    2
  3696. I'm the same but a virgin at 28.
    2
  3697.  @TheJesselopez1981  welfare for the rich
    2
  3698. That's messed up
    2
  3699.  @MrApw2011  thanks for your input.
    2
  3700.  @BenotzJoe  not really...
    2
  3701. The fact you are more concerned with paying $5 for a happy meal than helping poor people is disgusting
    2
  3702. Exactly.
    2
  3703. Just to be able to afford college, you would either need to be rich or have a full ride scholarship, that's less than 5% of Americans right there.
    2
  3704.  @estebanlara3702  that's half right. Business owners are greedy no matter what number or type of jobs exist. Even if every walmart store made trillions, they would never pay their cashiers $20/hr without outside pressure.
    2
  3705. Haha
    2
  3706. Exactly.
    2
  3707. I'm not sexist
    2
  3708. Ever heard of profit sharing? If companies had that, cashiers would make even more
    2
  3709. The first could be solved with a minimum-wage hike. Second problem could be solved with the restrictions of financial aid given to colleges. Colleges have to meet certain requirements in order to receive funding from the federal government and also to provide funding to students. One of the requirements could be for universities to charge tuition that's a narrow band around the median price or that's within the price range of lower-income students.
    2
  3710. Yep
    2
  3711. The minimum wage would be $43/hr today with just a 9% annual inflation adjustment rate.
    2
  3712. Read Herbert Gans functions of poverty
    2
  3713. @MommyOfZoeAndLiam  I agree with you. What I was saying was the takeaway message is that the rich in society use poverty as a way of benefitting themselves by ensuring jobs they would never do themselves still get done. They want people in or near poverty in order to force poor people to accept lower wages
    2
  3714. ​ @jflsdknf  I'm a kissless virgin at 28. I just want to lose my virginity.
    2
  3715. And this living wage doesn't account for time off, vacation, nothing.
    2
  3716.  @Konraden  yeah
    2
  3717. Prostitution is not going to help incels such as myself. I do not care about sleeping with a woman unless she likes me and that is something you can't buy.
    2
  3718.  @adamcuneo7189  you're right. I consider it more hypocritical considering POTUS has armed security. His guards aren't affected by gun control laws.
    2
  3719.  @adamcuneo7189  exactly. If I'm expected to be unarmed and obviously not have 24/7 body guards, I expect POTUS and VP to do the same. They may be more powerful than us both, but their lives are not more important.
    2
  3720. Wow.
    2
  3721. I know. I feel their pain.
    2
  3722.  @jeffw1267  or mandate that the healthcare is provided by the government instead of the employer and just allow employers to pay for all of the other benefits that are cheaper.
    2
  3723. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    2
  3724.  @VeeSilvers  I was repeating fox news mantra. It's nonsense.
    2
  3725. I've cried from changing
    2
  3726. You're correct. How is sex easy to get? I want to lose my virginity severely.
    2
  3727. Not going to happen.
    2
  3728. Stop being an other wallet warrior.
    2
  3729. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
    2
  3730.  @MC-wh3xm  ignoring what i said like the other guy, typical.
    2
  3731. Yep.
    2
  3732. That's admitting I'm the one to blame. Not women. Which is true. I'm a loser with no social skills or self confidence
    2
  3733. Just-world fallacy. It's what rich people live by
    2
  3734. Yep.
    2
  3735. Unions or guaranteed minimum income.
    2
  3736. Buying a hooker doesn't solve the problem of no woman loving you.
    2
  3737.  @RealJayNice  correct. Although you don't have to leave USA to find a hooker...
    2
  3738. The more I listen to Secular Talk, the more I desire to become a political journalist.
    2
  3739. Wow
    2
  3740.  @waltlock8805  you're ignoring negotiating power. A hotel cleaner is not demanding anything compared to a CEO.
    2
  3741.  @Rakumei672  don't forget negotiating power. A hotel cleaner/janitor is not in a position to demand anything compared to a doctor or CEO.
    2
  3742. Restaurant and retail jobs pay shitty wages with no benefits.
    2
  3743. ​ @lifeisagift.cherisheverymoment wait. Why isn't everyone entitled to a living wage like voting? Constitutional rights are a policy choice. Poverty is a policy choice.
    2
  3744. I know right? 45 minimum??
    2
  3745. That was heartbreaking to read
    2
  3746. Correct.
    2
  3747. The government spends more on welfare than what would be needed for me to get health insurance through the market.
    2
  3748. You need money to afford college.
    2
  3749. Everyone is not capable of working harder or at all. Everyone cannot overcome all systemic problems.
    2
  3750. 3 billion is nothing compared to 61 billion. Charity doesn't affect his lifestyle
    2
  3751. Yes they can afford higher wages.
    2
  3752.  @whyamimrpink78  these people are alive but not by the crappy 7.25 pay they get. That isn't enough to buy a house or car.
    2
  3753. ​ @avinashtyagi2 yep.
    2
  3754. Politicians believe poor people are lazy and thus don't deserve government help.
    2
  3755. Even women who blame men for their problems can get laid.
    2
  3756. @LDT7Y  there are men who do neither, who just asks for sex and gets it.
    2
  3757. But conservatives still bitch about a $15/hr minimum wage.
    2
  3758.  @evandavis2362  if education was available for poor people there wouldn't be student loans. If you're poor, you can't save.
    2
  3759. I'm trying to get a car through charity.
    2
  3760.  @markzuckergecko621  because it's too expensive to pay for college on a $7.25 wage.....
    2
  3761.  @markzuckergecko621  by this logic I'm fine paying off all consumer debt....
    2
  3762.  @markzuckergecko621  there aren't enough scholarships for everyone who is poor to go to college, good luck maintaining good grades while struggling to get by, and good luck trying to go to school full-time while working full-time as well. People don't want to work for low wages either.
    2
  3763.  @markzuckergecko621  you aren't saving $120,000 in 2 years working a minimum wage job. Labor markets change every second. Nobody can control or foresee what will happen to our economy in 4-6 years. Having a career doesn't guarantee higher wages either otherwise 44% of the population wouldn't be in poverty. You're like countless people who blame individuals and not the system for poverty, failing to acknowledge institutional factors and acting like people enjoy financial desperation.
    2
  3764. Higher skills lol.
    2
  3765. Because unrestricted nuclear power would lead to nuclear weapons proliferation.
    2
  3766. Nuclear weapons
    2
  3767. Yep.
    2
  3768.  @anthonycarbone3826  thank you. Ancedotally, I was working minimum wage but left to pursue community college and a physics degree. I'm poor now, but ultimately I care about minimum wage debate the most because it affects me the most. These jobs are dead end, which is why I refuse to work them now. I don't want to be a cashier and I know the government doesn't really want to help poor people, only corporations.
    2
  3769. Except socially inept loser women can get laid without effort, even being ugly. Men in the same situation can't.
    2
  3770. That's beautiful and made me cry.
    2
  3771. ​@Ashbelfi I've used tinder for 5 years to no avail.
    2
  3772. I'm getting tired of working...as a cashier. I make $10.50/hr with 0 benefits.
    2
  3773. ​ @100KGNatty I'm poor. I can't afford prostitution
    2
  3774. They don't care.
    2
  3775. I'm a holdless, hugless, kissless virgin at 28(and male). I'm a loser since I work as a cashier at a supermarket past the age of 25 and am broke. I do go to community college and a 4 year university at once(4 classes at once). I'm also a 2nd semester intern. Unfortunately I have no license or car plus I'm broke.
    2
  3776. Except unions protest wage slavery.
    2
  3777. It is
    2
  3778. No. But be unable to get laid.
    2
  3779. Exactly.
    2
  3780.  @obey_forever_mae  nope.
    2
  3781. It's called a monopsony.
    2
  3782. As an incel, I read that entire comment twice. I know you're right. I'm a kissless virgin who's never held hands at 29 years old. I want to lose my virginity so much. Prostitution is no solution for me because escorts don't like me.
    2
  3783. @tazhienunurbusinezz1703  reading that made me cry. I'll stay positive and I'll remember women and men have hopes and dreams of their own. I will stay in community college and keep winning scholarships. I will find love and be healthier.
    2
  3784. That was ALOT to take in.
    2
  3785. Yes
    2
  3786. ​ @markzuckergecko621  if you were a doctor, would you accept a minimum wage job? I suspect the answer is no. To bad millions of workers don't have that leverage. If they did, they wouldn't accept the job as is. If I had a medical degree or equivalent leverage, I would never accept any job that paid minimum wage and offered no benefits or career advancement.
    2
  3787. most conservatives like him worship meritocracy like capitalism. To him, every problem like poverty is an individual one. Admitting there are systemic problems is admitting that hard work does NOT always pay off, in fact, hard work does not even matter.
    2
  3788. Because corporate journalists are cowards
    2
  3789.  @brainstewX  1 trillion dollars is spent a year on a welfare. $5 trillion dollars a year in taxes in addition to the other taxes corporations already have to pay? They'd go bankrupt. So they have a choice of either paying higher wages or higher taxes, with the latter being far far more expensive.
    2
  3790.  @Selcryn  that's correct
    2
  3791.  @Selcryn  no I mean it's messed up corporations pay people poverty wages. When they could easily afford not to. We once had the greatest middle class in the world at one point. Now we're at a point where people are working two or three jobs and barely getting by. I don't fault workers for that. I fault corporations and the government.
    2
  3792.  @google_is_a_criminal  it makes sense.
    2
  3793. Poverty is a policy choice.
    2
  3794. And force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    2
  3795. Ok
    2
  3796. I'm 29 and a virgin. I've never kissed or held hands either.
    2
  3797. I'm still a virgin
    2
  3798. My brother got Medicaid from birth due to his disability, but my state of NC denied Medicaid expansion, leaving me without healthcare because I was "able bodied." Its coverage was so complicated my mom couldn't get all the healthcare she needed anyway. She died, I flunked out of school, lost financial aid, and can't afford to finish school.
    2
  3799.  @Lexaine  why do you dislike welfare for the poor?
    2
  3800. I'm a kissless virgin at 29. I want to lose my virginity.
    2
  3801. That's messed up.
    2
  3802.  @Raptor-y9f  yep.
    2
  3803. @ yes i voted. but poor people don't vote for the most part.
    2
  3804. Ok. I have a license but no car job or apartment. I'm 29
    2
  3805.  @personmcdudeguy  EXACTLY. 100%
    2
  3806. @Cari Waldick  In short, there are lazy people, but I don't know why that's the focus of the discussion. There are many millions of people who are childless, jobless adults who thus can't get Obama care. "Able bodied" adults(like myself)who can't get medicaid. Many people who suffer from mental illnesses who can't handle working full time. Many people, even with degrees, have trouble getting a job at all. I refuse to believe that conservatives think that poverty, unemployment, and homelessness are attractive choices. When I was a cashier at a supermarket, I got shafted I only worked 28 hours a week because of benefits. Working 32 hrs a week for 3 weeks in a row would have given me more benefits than some people with bachelor's degrees receive. Also. Because I'm in college, I can't handle being a skilled worker like a nuclear engineer or power plant operator. Aka, career and college both full-time, at once. I was also taking care of my sick mom. Also, I worked a shitty internship that paid me $900/semester. Because it was "temping/contract work," I got paid minimum wage with 0 benefits.
    2
  3807.  @cariwaldick4898  Long story short. I'm saying that there are lazy people. but nowhere near enough to state that we shouldn't start everyone out at a living wage. And that I believe no one deserves to be poor.
    2
  3808. @Cari Waldick  the problem is that many people think minimum wage workers, and poor people in general, are lazy and deserve poverty. I don't know who would be the deserving vs undeserving poor.
    2
  3809. @Cari Waldick  you've pointed out good points that I've been trying to get across 1. The core problem is ideological, not economic: politicians do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape. 2. Business leaders find rising worker power, not continued poverty, as unacceptable. 3. The real political problem with the ubi or guaranteed income is workers would have too much bargaining power. Just as doctors would refuse to work for so little they need food stamps, no other workers would either.
    2
  3810. @Cari Waldick  it's about priorities, about what we value the most. The reason there is a massive division in our political values or any division at all, is simple: we don't believe all sources of suffering are wrong.
    2
  3811.  @cariwaldick4898  I disagree Do you believe women deserve to vote? I do. Most of america does. Americans would willingly cap CEO pay or cut jobs if the alternative is women losing their voting rights forever. We are NOT willing to do the same thing to help the poor.
    2
  3812. ​ @cariwaldick4898 it's sad what this country has become
    2
  3813. I'm incel and I'll respond to you both
    2
  3814. ​ @ld2090 I don't hate women. I hate that life is unfair. Women can have sex whenever they want but straight men such as myself can't. That isn't fair. But women want to tell me to suck it up. I want to have sex like women do.
    2
  3815. Yes. But poor people will be blamed
    2
  3816. It's about control and entitlement. It's about having the poor do society's dirty work.
    2
  3817.  @tessmonsta  wow
    2
  3818.  @prettystreetchic  I won a full tuition scholarship. I decided to apply to part-time jobs. I got approved for federal work-study, then I'll apply for remote jobs and school jobs near me. I'll call other city and county welfare programs and charity programs.
    2
  3819. @EphraimAtwater  sounds like a plan
    2
  3820. That's crazy.
    2
  3821. @xRiddleMeThisYouTube  okay ...?
    2
  3822.  xRiddleMeThisYouTube  this doesn't change what I said.
    2
  3823. @xRiddleMeThisYouTube  welfare assistance does work and has worked. It helps feed and clothe and house millions. Poverty persists because of all the bullshit restrictions on welfare. Work requirements, time limits, able-bodied and without dependents, etc. And such programs are benefits, not just cash.
    2
  3824. @xRiddleMeThisYouTube  it does in many cases, yes. But the problem is politicians don't want this to be the case. Because if welfare programs are robust, then workers are less willing to take low wage jobs.
    2
  3825. @ladyjlane  poverty is a policy choice
    2
  3826. @Keith-kk6dq  exactly right. It isn't poor people or immigrants, it's the rich.
    2
  3827. I'm an incel and can confirm.
    2
  3828. ​ @emilydavids209 I was approaching literal fitness supermodel women. While I worked a minimum wage job with no car. Needless to say, I kept getting rejected.
    2
  3829. Because they need "skills training" to be worthy.
    2
  3830. Poverty is a policy choice.
    2
  3831.  @ShyGuy83  wow
    2
  3832. It's called the fallacy of relative privation. You ignore a problem by pointing to a bigger problem for comparison. It would be like if someone complained to me as police chief that my police department only solves 50% of crimes then I say that's not a big deal because other police departments only solve 30%. So therefore you should be happy that I am not that low.
    2
  3833.  @Pipping-Hot  how do you decide in advance which degrees are useless?
    2
  3834. The problem is conservatives believe in just-world fallacy. Thus, every problem is an individual one, not systemic.
    2
  3835.  @edwardvasquez4968  Preach!
    2
  3836.  @msolomonii9825  yes.
    2
  3837. over $80 billion a year. But that isn't jesse's real argument: he has a disdain for poor people because he believes they don't deserve to be middle class.
    2
  3838.  @grmpEqweer  I've met tons of people and have been going out more
    2
  3839. $900/year then vs $30,000/year now.
    2
  3840. Reading that made me cry as an incel.
    2
  3841. @Tice Nits  I want to lose my virginity. I just finished attending a science conference for my internship. I'm currently going to 2 colleges at once, doing an internship, and working as a cashier. I'm trying to improve my grades, finish my degree, and become independent. Unfortunately, having sex has been difficult for me. Dating apps don't work, and IRL events don't work. Single men can't visit swingers clubs, and I'm too poor to afford a hooker.
    2
  3842.  @ticenits1926  I don't understand why women don't like me. I don't understand how men can get laid so easily.
    2
  3843. Yep.
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  3844. I hate America. I work as a cashier at a supermarket, I make $10 an hour. Now if this was the 1950s that'd be fine but with homes and car prices now I can't afford to live on my own. I still live with my family. I can't stand watching Fox News because they bash minimum wage workers like myself calling me lazy. Yeah none of these Fox News or conservative pundits explain to me how working your way up on a minimum wage job gives you a 50-cent raise per year if that and that there are not enough jobs for all of us to move up to The truth of the matter is many entry-level jobs are dead end. It isn't true that we can all move up to management.
    2
  3845.  @markgigiel2722  I'm sorry for my rant
    2
  3846. ​@robert presley the problem with your thinking is conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage because they believe unskilled workers deserve poverty.
    2
  3847. Prostitutes don't truly desire them.
    2
  3848. ​ @kingcatx2 I'll have to get a car and job first, then I'll go out more.
    2
  3849. I'm 28 years old and a virgin.
    2
  3850. I need to get my driver's license, car, and scholarship to gain independence.
    2
  3851.  @AZrakoon  I seek to finish college to become a physicist.
    2
  3852. I'm poor, I'm on Medicaid and and lost food stamps. I won some scholarships and grants helping me through school. I might even win a $500,00 full ride scholarship.
    2
  3853. Yep
    2
  3854.  @thenutella8846  that's downright disgusting.
    2
  3855.  @MrsRitchieBlackmore  Not in NC.
    2
  3856.  @MrsRitchieBlackmore  I'm tempted to drop out of community college since I'm poor and can't afford to go.
    2
  3857. That's messed up.
    2
  3858.  @internetmachine  yes..that was hurtful to read.
    2
  3859. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    2
  3860. Yep
    2
  3861. Yep.
    2
  3862. It is a choice to allow poverty to exist.
    2
  3863.  @cinialvespow1054  it's possible for there to be equal wealth even if there isn't equal social class
    2
  3864. You can't escape sex to someone who's never had it.
    2
  3865.  @wsb4586  that's messed up.
    2
  3866. I left it.
    2
  3867. It makes me sad.
    2
  3868. You're correct.
    2
  3869. Wow.
    2
  3870.  @DaisukiSakueto  He's a hack. most capitalists believe only some jobs are "worthy" of providing a decent life. A neurosurgeon making $900k yearly is fine but a waiter making $32k is a travesty.
    2
  3871.  @muslimminarchist7026  Incorrect. Wages are not like the weather-something you observe and predict but cannot control. If we as a society believed every worker deserved a living wage, then every worker would have one. That's it. There'd be no need for welfare or charity or anything else other than the job any person has to help them survive.
    2
  3872.  @muslimminarchist7026  there's a MIT calculator that has already calculated a living wage for all cities in the country. googling the cost of various homes/colleges/cars isn't rocket science. And again, we as a society decide what jobs are worth what. And If paying someone 40k wipes out that whole business or even industry then so be it. If that's the price we have to pay then that is what our society will be restructured around.
    2
  3873. Are you relying on logic? These are republicans we're talking about here.
    2
  3874. I would ban lobbying.
    2
  3875. Correct. But incels know this they just don't care.
    2
  3876.  @calvingreene90  wow. Having a tv..TV... That totally means you aren't suffering. What next? If a cancer patient has a medical bed is he fully cured?
    2
  3877.  @calvingreene90  LOL by how much? Half the country Is in poverty. 73% of workers make $55k a year or less. If Trump is as good as you claim nobody would be living like that.
    2
  3878.  @calvingreene90  I'm not arguing for a doctor and cashier to make the same, but I'm also not fine with the cashier making 7.25 an hour.
    2
  3879.  @QueenNightAria  myth of meritocracy
    2
  3880. Corporations can be taxed 2x-5x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits.
    2
  3881. They make millions.
    2
  3882. Wow.
    2
  3883.  @oshgoshbyskosh  yep
    2
  3884. @davidphillips8674  that is the fallacy of relative privation. Just because the situation could be worse doesn't mean it can't be better. So if a police department has a 70% clearance rate, when it was 50% the year before, should the department give up and not try to reach 100? Nonsense.
    2
  3885. @KingOdie520  the fact that you refuse to acknowledge that systemic problems affect people's decisions shows you believe in just-world fallacy. Noone would take on loans if they could lower the price of consumer goods and services.
    2
  3886. The work uniforms and gas, even if I had a car, would still cost more than what I make.
    2
  3887. Yep
    2
  3888. I'll need a driver's license, car, better job, and scholarship.
    2
  3889.  @Cepheid_  yeah you better hope. You'll find out after you start moving...which by then would be too late.
    2
  3890. Exactly
    2
  3891.  @pogo8050  because there is a power imbalance....
    2
  3892.  @JagNavBrett  it's not about profits being thin. It's about power. Corporations need workers trapped by welfare or debt. Worker solidarity, not continued poverty, is unacceptable to them.
    2
  3893. " We can't be fighting like this there's white people here." He needs to get a Pulitzer Prize for this one sentence.
    2
  3894. YES!
    2
  3895. Worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once. The truth of our values lies in the risk we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our business leaders find unacceptable.
    2
  3896. ​ @johannageisel5390  I'm an HHKV at 28. And I've never dated. I considered myself incel for a long time. I don't consider myself an incel now, but i am still hopeless
    2
  3897. All of the politicians who voted against the minimum wage are fully aware of this, they just don't care.
    2
  3898.  @matthewfusaro2590  in the USA McDonald's workers are treated like rapists.
    2
  3899.  @gtt8428  I make $10/hr as a cashier at a supermarket. It costs $50 for a round trip in a cab. I make $46 a day. A meal costs $11.75. so more than what I make per hour.
    2
  3900.  @WebHead18  thank you
    2
  3901.  @vitawaterplz  you're right.
    2
  3902. 1. I'll start a podcast as a reporter 2. I'll see if I can be a part time radio reporter 3. My main focus will be on applying for scholarships and grants 4. Then completing my math lab manual 5. 3 and 4 will aid me in getting my associates degree I ultimately desire 1. Job 2. Driver's license 3. Car 4. My own apartment 5. Associates of science degree 6. Bachelor's degree in physics And 1. Be physically fit
    2
  3903.  @spencertoy1586  thank you. i'll keep it up.
    2
  3904.  @spencertoy1586  i will prove incels wrong.
    2
  3905. ​ @LuciTerra666  yep.
    2
  3906. I have to change
    2
  3907. If you are still here, the negative matter serves three purposes. First, it pushes the space-time boundary Beyond The Event Horizon that otherwise forms through the tunnel. Second, it counteracts gravitational collapse preventing the formation of a black hole in the first place. Third it acts as a gravitational insulator by creating a region of unwarped, or flat, space-time that is free of destructive tides.
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  3908. You could get a PhD in that time... Plus that's your whole 20s gone.
    2
  3909. Poor people like myself can't afford to run, which is why I don't vote. I don't understand why we don't have a public fund that gives equal funding to all candidates? If you win more than 5% of the vote, you keep the money.
    2
  3910. worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once. the truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporate leaders find unacceptable.
    2
  3911. What's worse is, despite this, Many Republican still support government money going to the rich.
    2
  3912. Republicans have circular logic when it comes to scapegoating the poor: The poor are damned if they do anything to decrease their poverty and they're damned if they don't do anything. Almost like Republicans only want middle and upper class students to go to school.
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  3913.  @aaz1992  and that doesn't mean everyone can't live comfortably?
    2
  3914. Yep
    2
  3915.  @elgonzo7239  politicians believe poor people shouldn't be educated, so they keep the price of education sky high. And financial aid is tied to needing good grades and be enrolled full-time to qualify, so tens of thousands of students can't get financial aid. Even if college was tuition free, poor people still couldn't go to places like Stanford or Duke. Even if those places were tuition free, that leaves out living expenses.
    2
  3916.  @elgonzo7239  I can't see my replies anymore
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  3917. I make $10/hr and it costs more taking a cab to/from work than what i make from working.
    2
  3918. Yep
    2
  3919. Because the core problem is that those in power and many Americans DON'T want poverty to end. Rich people want servants. Middle class wants cheap prices and goods. Many others think poor people don't deserve to be middle class.
    2
  3920. I want to lose my virginity before I turn 29
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  3921. Student loan borrowers are taxpayers as well. Do you not count them?
    2
  3922. I agree with you.
    2
  3923. @Just some guy  I would say not working is preferable to working if you are still in poverty. That's how welfare works in my state of NC. People prefer working part-time and staying on welfare rather than working full time without welfare because they lose more money in benefits than what they can earn from working.
    2
  3924. And millionaires too.
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  3925. True. But you don't all believe workers deserve a house?
    2
  3926.  @uncomfortabletruth5915  I can't see my replies anymore
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  3927.  @TheOblivionMan  LOL. college at community level is $10k/year. That ain't happening
    2
  3928. ​​ @deez3913 you agree with me?
    2
  3929. Rich people think you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    2
  3930.  @carolyn8740  why cheaper but not free?
    2
  3931. You falsely believe working harder will solve everyone's problems. You believe in just-world fallacy.
    2
  3932. Love the video.
    2
  3933.  @ilovecoffeev  bro that's hurtful but you're right. Me becoming a man is about embracing change.
    2
  3934. That's the point
    2
  3935. ​ @harryfarber6435 you shouldn't have to join the military to have healthcare
    2
  3936. That is messed up.
    2
  3937. Republicans want poor people To be forced into minimum wage jobs.
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  3938. $10 million a year is crazy
    2
  3939. Politicians are bought by corporations.
    2
  3940. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
    2
  3941. I'm on Medicaid while in college because my medicines cost $2,000 a month and minimum wage can't pay that
    2
  3942.  @cs5384  yep.
    2
  3943. Except women don't feel entitled to sex.
    2
  3944. Correct.
    2
  3945. ​ @innocentnemesis3519 yep.
    2
  3946. A single class I took last spring was $2,700.
    2
  3947. Interesting. You describe me.
    2
  3948. Stock market seems like a sham because the top 10% of income earners own nearly 94% of stocks.
    2
  3949.  @flappletarts  yes. Work requirements exist to coerce poor people into taking minimum wage jobs. After all, these jobs don't pay enough to afford medical care alone, so why would anyone give up Medicaid to be on it?
    2
  3950. Someone told me a McDonald's worker doesn't deserve 50k a year..."flipping burgers" is akin to raping someone.
    2
  3951.  @tylerv.g.6268  exactly. Imagine if medical schools only accepted applicants that already had medical degrees. What it boils down to is that most rich people and conservatives believe that poor people don't deserve to be middle class or Rich, the poor don't deserve to receive any help. That the poor are failures at life, they failed on their own and they should not be helped.
    2
  3952. ​ @jesseperez4583 Noone should have to do that to survive.
    2
  3953. I'm a male virgin at 28. I have no skills ( no college education, career, or raining certification) No independence (no driver's license. No car. No apartment or house of my own. No income. No savings) I'm poor and socially isolated and socially inept. I've also never kissed, dated, or held hands. I don't want to die miserable and alone. I don't want to remain incel. A loser.
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  3954. @Mar10V  sorry for my sexism. I just needed to learn to grow up.
    2
  3955. Yes
    2
  3956.  @DogMechanic  Exactly.
    2
  3957.  @Mysticist  First off I make $10.50 an hour as a cashier, the pay doesn't increase at all, people are just more desperate to work. Second of all many places list now hiring signs saying they pay "up to" $20, $30 or even $40 an hour, but that includes the highest level managerial positions, the entry-level positions / cashiers still make $8.50. Then the benefits they offer are only if you're full-time, so employers keep you part-time to avoid this. Then the benefits, even if you do get them, are crap. Tuition reimbursement is $2,500 a year at most when college cost $10,000 a year. Worthless. 401k is offered but it's 0% match so it's worthless as well. Not to mention you can never retire on such low wages anyway. Health insurance comes from your already low paycheck and has limited coverage. It's more expensive to have healthcare than not have it.
    2
  3958.  @DogMechanic  it's ironic you say that because my raise was $0.50.
    2
  3959.  @DogMechanic  I'm not upset at doctors making more than me, but I'd like to survive from contributing to society. I don't even want to be rich or even middle class.
    2
  3960.  @DogMechanic  we need more POOR people running for office.
    2
  3961.  @NM-qd3tm  that is the official minimum wage of the United States. That is a poor choice you are right...made by U.S. politicians. McDonald's and Wal-Mart pay above 7.25 but only by a few dollars so it's still a pathetic wage.
    2
  3962.  @NM-qd3tm  no man is an island. Our economy does not exist in a vacuum. Nor do individual workers. You act like everything is an individual problem and people exist in isolation.
    2
  3963.  @coopsnz1  public school is only free up to high school. Public college isn't free nor is trade school.
    2
  3964. I'd mandate benefits for all workers in all industries
    2
  3965. 1% of people make EXACTLY minimum wage but 43% of workers make less than $15/hour. Making $9/hour is still minimum wage.
    2
  3966.  @jaeboston9228  350??? It's literally 20k today....
    2
  3967. That's messed up
    2
  3968. $3k a month? That's more than what a minimum wage worker would make even at $15/hr....
    2
  3969. I'm confused. Why work two 4 hour shifts?
    2
  3970. $78/hr?? HOLY CRAP.
    2
  3971. That's messed up.
    2
  3972. Yep.
    2
  3973. Yes.
    2
  3974. Except politicians have NEVER implemented ROBUST welfare programs. Being "able-bodied" disqualifies you from most government benefits. The real reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    2
  3975. To force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    2
  3976. If we had robust welfare programs in place, the real political problem isn't the costs, but the benefits. Nobody would work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
    2
  3977.  @MysteriousFuture  sounds good to me.
    2
  3978. i agree.
    2
  3979. Beautiful
    2
  3980. @uslegend24  the USA can afford healthcare, it's about priorities. The government has an obligation to help its citizens, healthcare is a part of that package. People who rely on Medicaid aren't freeloaders, the freeloaders are companies unwilling to pay livable wages. If her daughter is disabled for life, her being 27 won't change that. She needs disability support for life. People don't choose to have disabilities. Shaming people over things they can't control is disgusting. Poverty and disability shaming need to stop.
    2
  3981.  @stevechance150  meanwhile half the country makes 35K a year... The minimum wage and wages in general are never indexed to inflation.
    2
  3982.  @tuckerbugeater  someone is always going to work menial jobs. They deserve to make more. 2. There aren't enough "worthy" middle class jobs/salaries available. 3. College is not affordable enough for most people, even if it was, usa can't be filled with 110 million new college students that all become engineers.
    2
  3983.  @tuckerbugeater  what are working class jobs to you? By definition a job is where you are working...janitor or engineer...
    2
  3984. That's messed up ​ @Praisethesunson 
    2
  3985. STEM employers seek have set up a ton of "entry-level" research positions. After you get your PhD you have to toil in vain in 1,2,3 or more postdoc research positions. Some people spend more time stuck in postdoc than they spent getting a PhD.
    2
  3986. I'm an incel and I'm happy for him.
    2
  3987. Ok
    2
  3988. I've been on a date.
    2
  3989.  @thanosdoomjuggernaut2846  the government and businesses. 50% of workers make $33,000 a year or less.
    2
  3990.  @Youtubedeletes  because democrats don't want to end poverty either.
    2
  3991. @ndbrown6742  both parties are controlled by the rich and business leaders. Who stand to lose from the abolition of poverty.
    2
  3992. Conservatives don't believe all workers deserve to be middle class or rich. In their eyes, if you're lazy or uneducated you deserve to be poor.
    2
  3993.  @ericafox5098  i just did..it made me realize i was wrong..i cried...
    2
  3994.  @ericafox5098  well..that story made me realize..being an incel is a mental problem...and it is soul crushing to act like I'm alone in this world.
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  3995.  @renemcquick9467  wow
    2
  3996. ​ @KhattaRapidus exactly.
    2
  3997. ​​ @jimbob9407 because the jobs are necessary?
    2
  3998. ​ @isaac.anthony exactly
    2
  3999.  @bambicrandi  thank you man. That means alot. I haven't become complacent. In fact I used to be a NEET.
    2
  4000. I died laughing.
    2
  4001. ​ @moniqueengleman873 I know. I cry
    2
  4002. ​ @Sk8L0ve lol
    2
  4003. Inflation is an acceptable risk.
    2
  4004. because not everyone can or should.
    2
  4005. @darnelldyson4590  I'm aware. My comment was sarcasm. It's to point out that poor people receiving welfare would give them freedom from employers, which is exactly what republicans don't want.
    2
  4006. Correct.
    2
  4007. Quantitative Easing? You meaning printing money for rich people?
    2
  4008. Hookers don't truly like the incel so it would solve nothing.
    2
  4009. How do the poor benefit?
    2
  4010.  @MsPoliteRants  exactly. I had food stamps for three months but lost them due to work requirements. I've decided to exempt myself from working for the next four years since I'm attending community college full time starting next Fall. So I'm expected to work 30 hours a week on top of a full time course load.
    2
  4011.  @MsPoliteRants  the only jobs I can get for the time being are minimum wage and internships, both of which pay shit and are dead end.
    2
  4012.  @tonys4751  the root cause of poverty is rich people. They ensure poverty exists so society's dirty work gets done.
    2
  4013.  @tonys4751  1. If you think poverty is due to bad decisions, that hard work ensures success, you believe in just-world fallacy on some level. 2. Rich people use poverty to ensure a huge swath of the population does jobs that rich people would never do themselves, i.e., exploitation. I don't know how else to say that. Someone with $1 billion or a medical degree would not accept a minimum wage job. 3. You have taught me something: self reliance. The government is not going to help me, not corporations. In fact, both of them have screwed me over. I accept I'm poor now but I won't be poor forever. 4. To that end, I will keep pursuing community college, keep passing classes, and keep applying to more scholarships and grants than I ever have before(I have applied to 316)so I earn that physics degree I desire. It will help me obtain engineering jobs and eventually lead to me becoming a physicist.
    2
  4014.  @tonys4751  you bringing up communism is a straw man, this isn't about equality but a comparative advantage, you missed my point. If a grant is $900, and you make $900,000, the salary is preferred. If a grant is $900,000 and you make $900, the grant is preferred. In order to obviate the demand and supply for such government grants for the poor, you simply ensure salaries exceed the grant. That's all I'm saying. It's that simple. The problem is this not only requires minimum wage jobs/poor people to make more money, but more money than "skilled/clean" work, which is fundamentally opposed by most of society. Thus, society at large wants poverty to exist.
    2
  4015.  @tonys4751  I agree with you. I know I make long posts. I'm glad you're hearing me out
    2
  4016.  @MsPoliteRants  you're right. 1. I had food stamps. But because of the work requirements, I lost them. I can't handle working 30 hours a week while taking 13 credit hours at school. 2. I was forced off of my private insurance(that I had to buy because my minimum wage job didn't offer it). My insurance premium went from $50 to $450. I was forced onto Medicaid, which most doctors don't take. 3. If it wasn't for my dad, I wouldn't have a place to live or food to eat. 4. Half of poor people in my city don't get welfare because of the administrative burden. 5. One woman had to reuse diapers for her child because SNAP can only be spent on food.
    2
  4017. Because people think poor people don't deserve help.​ @MsPoliteRants 
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  4018. The problem with your thinking is believing us politicians want to end poverty. They don't want to.
    2
  4019. Messed up.
    2
  4020.  @unstephanie  exactly
    2
  4021. ​ @unstephanie yes. I can't afford to run for office
    2
  4022. Correct.
    2
  4023. Yeah. Not wanting to be poor...REAL greedy....
    2
  4024. ​@Jamison Wright I agree, but conservatives have a different mindset. They assign value to people based on how hard they work. Their idea is if you're not willing or not capable of working hard or at all, then you have no value.
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  4025. Ok
    2
  4026.  @xSayPleasex  you're right at the last sentence too. The poor people's campaign estimates the true number of people in poverty to be close to half the country. So something like 140 million people, or 43.3% of the population, are poor or low-income. But as long as poor people such myself lack the money and power to run for office or crush corporations, much less change the very notions of right and wrong ingrained within society that supports poverty, then rich people are safe and sound.
    2
  4027.  @xSayPleasex  yep
    2
  4028. It's called a matter replicator. And replicator would eradicate scarcity.
    2
  4029.  @peterversionone  exactly.
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  4030. It's this idea that they tie the value of a person to their work It's called Calvinism.
    2
  4031. There's no such thing as a free labor market. People will take jobs because they need the money and/ or have no negotiating power
    2
  4032. What I hate the most is rich people being asked to debate the minimum wage.... How about asking a minimum wage worker instead? I doubt Fox News would interview me, a cashier, to learn about stock portfolios and corporate mergers.
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  4033. I feel your pain. I'm in community college and lost my food stamps and section 8 housing, leaving me in even deeper poverty since my mom died. I'm too poor to finish school.
    2
  4034. ​ @brianflynlion After my mom died I lost food stamps and section 8 housing, so getting through school is even tougher than before. I just want to finish school.
    2
  4035. Many teenagers from low income households work minimum wage to help their families.
    2
  4036. @Itsjustme  I wanted to get out of the house. I'm in the house all the time because I just can't afford to go anywhere. I'm wrong about that?
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  4037. Redefining poverty puts 140 million people in poverty, not 40 million
    2
  4038. Yep.
    2
  4039. The only skills that give you more money are education and responsibility. Experience means nothing. And like you said, entry-level jobs are dead end and give you no skills. And they will also never pay you enough to support a family.
    2
  4040. Republican support businesses over employees, even if the Republicans are poor themselves.
    2
  4041. Correct.
    2
  4042. LOL.
    2
  4043. I don't understand either
    2
  4044.  @ActiveAussie2024  thank you.
    2
  4045. He thinks 1400 is too much for the poor
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  4046.  @novarem9828  exactly.
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  4047. That's messed up
    2
  4048. Because worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once.
    2
  4049. Politicians want corporations to perpuate poverty
    2
  4050. That's messed up
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  4051.  @50jakecs  DOJ and FTC could lower threshold above which a merger is illegal. Create the standard of simple market share and concentration levels. If a merger/acquisition leads to a firm with more than 9% market dominance, the m/a will be considered illegal and be blocked in court. 9% as an example.
    2
  4052. Who can live in poverty as well.
    2
  4053. Exactly
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  4054. How about we tax corporations 2x to 5x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits.
    2
  4055. It's not helping the rich or military, so you can't have it.
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  4056. The point is to perpetuate poverty.
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  4057. When he said the after 90 days part I knew that was b*******. What's stopping companies from firing people right before the 90 days comes up? At my supermarket job, you receive paid sick leave / PTO/health insurance/401k/tuition reimbursement/prescription coverage for all workers, including myself as a cashier, if you work full-time. What a surprise, the company forces me to work just under 40 hours so I never become eligible.
    2
  4058. Full-time at my company is 35 hours a week so everyone is scheduled to work 20 to 30 hours a week. No one ever works 40.
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  4059.  @PapaGoose05  if the job pays poverty wages it doesn't deserve to exist.
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  4060. I'd force rich people and business owners to be in poverty, for the rest of their lives, with no reprieve.
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  4061. Rofl
    2
  4062. It's also about values. People in Congress don't value helping people get out of poverty. they don't value ending poverty. they don't value helping workers achieve the american dream.
    2
  4063. Exactly.
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  4064. Everyone cannot obtain senior level positions
    2
  4065. Yep
    2
  4066. Hahahahahaha
    2
  4067. Exactly 😊
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  4068.  @suzygraham1427  oh wow! I nevertheless thought of that!
    2
  4069.  @suzygraham1427  thank you. I don't feel so bad about being a virgin now. The RIGHT woman will understand me.
    2
  4070. ​ @suzygraham1427  I'm sorry for identifying as incel.
    2
  4071. Correct.
    2
  4072. Exactly.
    2
  4073. Yep.
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  4074.  @Phil_A_O_Fish  I've discovered the secret to world peace AND to make people have the same political values.
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  4075. @Phil A. O'Fish  that and women's suffrage. If we truly cared about ending poverty, we would be willing to tolerate whatever consequences in fighting against their poverty. We do this to help women have autonomy, such as voting. But we embrace all of the changes because we believe women having autonomy makes the world a better place. We are not willing to tolerate the consequences for ending poverty. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty. Voting laws are not like the weather: something you observe and predict but cannot control. a living Living wage minimum wage is not like the weather: something you observe and predict but cannot control. we can structure our society around a living wage just like we do around voting. Poverty is like women suffrage: a policy choice, that our governments choose to enact over and over again.
    2
  4076. Low wage workers have no bargaining power
    2
  4077.  @whiskeytango9769  what does parity with the private sector mean?
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  4078.  @LiMaking  you're welcome.
    2
  4079.  @jimbob9407  I don't guess.
    2
  4080. it doesn't work
    2
  4081. Yep.
    2
  4082. Yep
    2
  4083. Yep.
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  4084. ​ @alexbaranowski9315 I'm incel because I'm a kissless virgin at 28.
    2
  4085. They define "rich" as above $60k. It's the fallacy of relative privation
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  4086. ​@jan6742 how about I want to do neither. I want to be found attractive.
    2
  4087. I love that show
    2
  4088. College isn't free in USA
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  4089. The point is to not implement robust welfare programs. If poor people received government benefits, or better yet, a guaranteed minimum income, then they can't be coerced into accepting minimum wage jobs. Or any low paying job.
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  4090. @CreativeMindsAudio  correct. It's about priorities. It's about what suffering we deem unacceptable, and poverty is not one of them.
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  4091. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  4092.  @TRD-667  thanks.
    2
  4093.  @wendyschneider4490  ah okay
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  4094.  @BoogUwU  not really no. Wrong answer and mindset. Feel free to tax corporations though.
    2
  4095.  @izzyreel6730  you are correct.
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  4096. Which is why republicans oppose it.
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  4097.  @thehumanvoid2253  I'm saying everyone needs help to succeed. Particularly luck.
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  4098. @Anonymous Thoughts You're aware the cost of living has already risen dramatically with the minimum wage being stagnant right? Nothing is priced for people making minimum wage or anywhere near it. Anecdotally, the median home price in my city has jumped $12,000 in one year. ($464k now). That's more than what a minimum wage worker makes in a year, just the increase alone is outrageous.
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  4099. Yes. It's too bad poor people don't run for office
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  4100. I honestly think no rich person who's so apathetic should be allowed in Congress. 76% of Americans are in poverty/living paycheck to paycheck but not a single Congress person is.
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  4101. None of congress is poor, homeless, hungry, mentally ill, drowning in student loan debt, unable to afford healthcare, struggling to pay rent or mortgage, or anything.
    2
  4102. I agree.
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  4103.  @patrickbateman529  okay.
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  4104. Public transit is shit
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  4105. he's telling a poor person to lobby...you have to be rich to do that. That's like telling a paraplegic to walk. This guy missed the part where lobbying is $4 billion a year contributed by trillion dollar industries. I'd like to know how a minimum wage job grosses $4 billion a year.
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  4106.  @cindyp5132  I hope your son gets millions of dollar of medical scholarships.
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  4107.  @cindyp5132  PRECISELY. YOU GIVE ME HOPE AMERICA IS WORTH LIVING IN.
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  4108. Wow
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  4109.  @1958PonyBoy  thank you for your story. I won't give up on my dream. Life isn't equal, easy or fair but that doesn't mean it isn't worth living. I may be poor now but if I work hard enough...not forever.
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  4110.  @1958PonyBoy  thank you. But I agree that hard work can pay off.
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  4111. But canceling student loans is "too hard."
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  4112.  @joeruiz4010  not everyone can obtain higher skilled jobs, that is what boot strappers like you don't understand. This is like expecting every city cop to become police chief or sergeant all at once. Even if every low wage worker tried their best, most aren't getting promoted tomorrow. There are only so many manager jobs available.
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  4113. Lol
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  4114. Corporations
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  4115. A living wage varies...Which can be accounted for. Millions of people make more than the minimum wage but Below a living wage since they qualify for welfare.
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  4116. Beautiful.
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  4117.  @haveabanana2930  yes
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  4118.  @haveabanana2930  thanks. I'm taking 2 classes at a community college I'm now a visiting student at another college/taking a stem education course - my focus is to finish my degree, gain financial aid, earn a full-ride scholarship, be a Screenwriter and gain independence. And I believe I can achieve all of these things (besides the degree) in ONE YEAR.
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  4119.  @haveabanana2930  oops I forgot. Basically I consider myself a man child. My dad / other family member drives me around because I have no driver's license or car. He also is my personal barber. I live with my mom and she pays for my food and clothes. Although in my defense she's sick and I'm helping take care of her. And this cashier job simply doesn't pay enough for me to survive. I want to gain some independence, know what it's like to live on my own and depend on myself. I guess I don't really want sex really.
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  4120.  @haveabanana2930  despite my flaws I do believe I'm intelligent and driven, and sometimes funny. I also consider myself a caring guy. I don't know if or how I'll ever lose my virginity or find a girlfriend but I don't want to give up hope on myself.
    2
  4121. Beautiful to hear. I'm not incel anymore.
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  4122. To force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  4123. And to force people to have medical debt.
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  4124. Republicans want immigration reform to be stalled so corporations can have cheap labor.
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  4125. Not willing to pay $5 more a meal means you view poverty as acceptable.
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  4126. Everyone can't afford to do that
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  4127. So this is a moral issue to you: you believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money.
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  4128. ​ @reinsmano  then argue for skilled positions to be paid more, not for poor people to be paid less. You're acting like $20/hr would make all doctors quit.
    2
  4129. Yep
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  4130. He past 1M now
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  4131. That's fucked. Up.
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  4132. I only have an issue with women because I'm a virgin against my will
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  4133. Worse Minimum wage
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  4134.  @jerseymetalmike5111  ok
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  4135. @aidancollins1591 it's more often the case than not. And even increasing salaries to $300k a year won't change the core problem that poor people cannot afford to run for office in the first place.
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  4136.  @yournanna866  it makes me ANGRY
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  4137. I've done those things I'm still a virgin
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  4138. It's called not having empathy.
    2
  4139. Yep
    2
  4140. Blame corporations who want cheap labor and exploit immigrants.
    2
  4141. Yep
    2
  4142. Because there is too much poverty. People are willing to work for wages they don't deserve because some money is better than nothing.
    2
  4143. Holy crap
    2
  4144.  @maoopan  thanks
    2
  4145. That's messed up.
    2
  4146. fox news believes every policy that helps the poor is communism.
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  4147. Yep. I make $10/hr as a cashier. I can't afford to run for office
    2
  4148.  @nacarreira777  welfare.
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  4149.  @nacarreira777  I use food stamps, Medicaid, etc.
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  4150. @crazy9932  many people hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty. They see working in fast food and retail as a punishment .
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  4151. @notyourtypicalwatchreview2563 That is literally opposing a living wage. And for moral reasons. And based on what you think workers deserve. Thanks for proving my point.
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  4152. @notyourtypicalwatchreview2563  You literally are steelmanning my argument. This is a moral issue to you and many other conservatives, not an economic one: you believe a living wage minimum wage pays more money to people than you think they deserve. If doctors made $20/hr and were in poverty, then the same people opposing a $15/hr minimum wage now would be supporting an $80/hr minimum wage then. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status. Also, Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone can obtain skills. Even if they could, there are not enough higher paying jobs for everyone.
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  4153.  @crazy9932  I'm just surprised by you. I've read every comment in this section(the whole 2.7k comments in the video) and you're one of like 5 people who actually point out the hypocrisy here: when employers want more, it's fine When employees want more, it's terrible. Everyone is punching down on minimum wage workers. Having no sympathy for the millions in poverty.
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  4154.  @Gregorypeckory  Well said.
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  4155.  @Gregorypeckory  it's the old conservative mindset: you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    2
  4156. You are correct.
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  4157. Yes
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  4158. I live with my dad at 29 while going to community college. Rent is $2,000/month for a one bedroom apartment, AND I must make three times this to qualify. That's $72,000/year.
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  4159. I just realized that's a paradox....
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  4160. I work as a cashier at a supermarket making $10.50/hr($.50 raise) and I'm kept part-time to avoid getting benefits. At 28, I've been going to this job for seven months and have nothing to show for it. I've decided to throw in the towel and put my effort into getting a massive scholarship to afford college.
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  4161. Yep
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  4162. Conservatives believe poverty and motherhood are incompatible, that's why they oppose abortion and welfare.
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  4163. Corporations receive tax dollars in the form of subsidies, bailouts and loan forgiveness. And welfare is doled out because corporations refuse to pay more for American labor
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  4164. Not everyone can be promoted.
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  4165. @Necessary Evil  What? First of all, I don't work minimum wage anyway. What i'm saying is that there are many reasons beyond people's control as to why they are poor. If being poor was a choice, then nobody would be poor.
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  4166. ​ @TheNecessaryEvil  go ahead and believe that lie.
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  4167. ​@Cl1nton Body count there are 12 million millionaires...in a country of 330 million people. that's 3.7% of the population. 3.7% of anything is not 50%, but you're acting like it's 90%.
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  4168.  @alieshalepine6630  don't bother he supports just world fallacy.
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  4169.  @alieshalepine6630  it is. And I believe just-world fallacy is one of cornerstones of Republican ideology.
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  4170. Final thing I want to say: USA doesn't want to end wage slavery They want dead end minimum wage jobs to be filled by poor people by crushing labor power, unions, welfare.
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  4171. Yes
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  4172. I'm poor community college student. If I don't win a full ride scholarship within 2 months, then I won't be able to finish community college, much less become a physicist.
    2
  4173. Yep.
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  4174. Wow
    2
  4175. They lack empathy
    2
  4176. I love your channel.
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  4177. A person's job does not determine their intelligence or ambition.
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  4178. Accept inflation.
    2
  4179. Poor people are ignored
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  4180.  @raveun2thejoy  yes. Most people hate the poor, but you stand up for them. It means alot to me.
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  4181.  @raveun2thejoy  thank you, buddy. I want to be a JOURNALIST who represents the poor. Not the middle class or rich.
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  4182. He wants to do this to force poor people out of education and keep people ignorant.
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  4183.  @MoNoToNeGaMeRz  if you don't want government to intervene then demand businesses pay more for American labor. What you're really saying here, is that you want some workers to be in poverty.
    2
  4184. ​ @alvinmjensen yep
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  4185. Because America finds the money to pay for the things it values most. Politicians have the power to eliminate poverty. It is simply not among their priorities.
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  4186. Yep
    2
  4187. She isn't left enough because she doesn't support a living wage or unions
    2
  4188. Minimum income and a living wage minimum wage would fix poverty.
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  4189.  @brothersandsistersofvalhalla  why not just make it a national policy to have 80-90% home ownership(without mortgages).
    2
  4190. ​ @speedracertv4934  yep
    2
  4191.  @Styphon  no
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  4192.  @saasda6255  No you don't choose what parents you are born with, nor your race, income, sex, country, etc
    2
  4193. ​ @tracim3080  exactly.
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  4194. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
    2
  4195. Because effort is not reward. Effort is within your control and reward is not.
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  4196. Exactly
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  4197. I'm in north carolina. Without financial aid, I can't afford $10,000/year tuition. With financial aid, I still can't afford to finish, $3,000. Even with tuition wiped out, I STILL can not afford to finish community college living expenses on a minimum wage job.
    2
  4198. I just want to lose my vcardz not play chess
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  4199. Keep up the good work!
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  4200. Yep. My state of NC still has that.
    2
  4201. Both parties want poverty
    2
  4202.  @cw9653  how? We don't have a living wage or robust welfare, right?
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  4203.  @Bailouts4Billionaires  hello. That helped out. Here are my thoughts 1. Poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity. 2. The government could eradicate poverty with more robust income support programs, if it was a true priority. 3. It's about priorities. Lost billions in a bank failure? Want trillions of dollars of tax cuts? Want a 20 year war costing over $7 trillion? Done! Need food or healthcare or student debt relief because you're poor? We can't afford it! It's about priorities. Politicians don't find poverty unacceptable.
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  4204. I don't understand. Doesn't the government know employees are kept part-time to avoid benefits? Why not mandate benefits for all employees regardless of hours?
    2
  4205. Yes they can.
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  4206. Would require politicians to actually want people not to be trapped by poverty or debt. That's a problem with values: because politicians don't care to do such a thing.
    2
  4207. Politicians brainwash people into blaming poor people, since poor people have no voice in government.
    2
  4208. Next up on Fox News: getting stabbed cures cancer!
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  4209. I don't understand
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  4210.  @jb7670  okay
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  4211. Yep
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  4212. I've been asked out on a date once. I was top scared to do anything. I haven't been approached by women since. I'm worthless and incel.
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  4213. Yep
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  4214.  @nocucksinkekistan7321  in my state there are poor people like myself making $15k a year then the top 1% in my state making $506k+ a year.
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  4215.  @nocucksinkekistan7321  you're right I could if I wanted. I could be a power plant operator or nuclear technician or heavy equipment mechanic
    2
  4216. It's called just-world fallacy.
    2
  4217. Wow.
    2
  4218. He made the video.
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  4219. They'll never host it. Daily show is liberal.
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  4220.  @s0sDarkAngels0s  lucky for us all these politicians are rich and don't depend on unions or food stamps. I wish poor people ran for office.
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  4221. Entry-level jobs do not give you skills.
    2
  4222. It's messed up.
    2
  4223. This is one of my two dream cars.
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  4224. I went to a sports bar, but I didn't drink, socialize, sing or dance. I can't do that again
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  4225. Imagine making $10 million. Year. Then complaining about taxes... Mate if I made even top 1% income I'd feel rich. $758,000/yr income.
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  4226.  @vermilion6966  this guy believes in just-world fallacy. Don't argue with him.
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  4227. ​ @bradchristy8429 blame Reagan, not the poor
    2
  4228. That's messed up
    2
  4229. ​ @stephaniejean2426  beautiful to hear.
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  4230. For there to be no more poor people, there cannot be any more rich people
    2
  4231. Obviously he means both absolute and relative poverty. To end both would require no income inequality
    2
  4232. Yep.
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  4233. Because it isn't voluntary.
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  4234. Correct.
    2
  4235. you caught that too, right?
    2
  4236. ​@antoniobrasse7157 I'll be working on getting a part time job as a reporter. Then driver's license. Then car. Then improve my health. Then focus in school(I'm in community college)
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  4237.  @lizicadumitru9683  well. Thank you. I'm enrolled in community college Work as a cashier at a supermarket Participate in a mathematics-physics internship. With enough effort I'll get to where I need to go. I just have to stop being afraid of intimacy and stop feeling entitled to women.
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  4238.  @lizicadumitru9683  you're right. Dishonesty solves nothing. In the long run, I must put forth effort in being authentic and driven, ensuring no woman or anyone else in any type of relationship can blame me for being lazy.
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  4239.  @lizicadumitru9683  thank you. I guess..I am not incel.
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  4240. If that was true I wouldn't be a virgin at 27.
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  4241. That's politics
    2
  4242. Yep
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  4243. Then you're more concerned about automation than poverty.
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  4244. I listened to Andrew Tate because I was incel. I'm 29. I've never hugged, held hands, kissed, or had sex. I have no car, no job, no income, no social life. I just want to lose my virginity but it seems like me being poor makes me a loser. If I can't even get laid, how can I ever hope to get married?
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  4245.  @kingwillie206  not in the slightest am I joking.
    2
  4246.  @ProjectileGrommet  beautiful to hear.
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  4247.  @kingwillie206  I got your comment. You're right. No more waiting on the sidelines. It's time for me to take life by the horns.
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  4248. By that number. 80% Wal-Mart workers would be making $160,000 a year
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  4249. Nope. She doesn't care about the poor
    2
  4250. That's huge.
    2
  4251. ​ @plaidpanda  That is inspiring.
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  4252. Exactly
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  4253. Exactly mate
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  4254. Union manufacturing jobs were outsourced via globalization and replaced with minimum wage jobs in stores.
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  4255. I want to be a journalist myself but I realize the only ways to oppose corporate media are to either be independent or corporate yourself, but also helping the poor.
    2
  4256. That's messed up
    2
  4257. Yep.
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  4258. I want to win a Jon Stewart prize one day. What is a Jon Stewart prize? What the Pulitzer Prize will be renamed to.
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  4259. Correct. Poverty is a policy choice.
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  4260.  @kddavis5492  Correct. Doesn't mean we can't fix injustice.
    2
  4261. Exactly.
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  4262. It's because they don't believe cashiers deserve to be middle class.
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  4263. I understand you. I believe you. I'm not as dumb as other incels.
    2
  4264.  @SteelCowGirl4Ever  you're right. It's my own problem to figure out. I must earn sex, intimacy, and affection. Me blaming women hasn't made things better.
    2
  4265.  @SteelCowGirl4Ever  my notifications and replies for YouTube have been messed up for a while, that's why it took me a while to respond back. That being said, you're right. I know deep down sex isn't some magical cure for all of my problems, I'll be 30 in 7 months, there are A LOT bigger things to worry about.
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  4266.  @SteelCowGirl4Ever  My goals, before I turn 30, are to 1- have a healthier body (diet. Abs) 2- win a full ride scholarship 3- get accepted into a four year university It does suck I'm living with my dad with no car, but I'm working on getting a car title now. I do realize I should have had a degree and independence by now. But I can't undo the past.
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  4267.  @Mydogslove2laugh  i agree. Paying minimum wage workers based on PROFITS would have cashiers at chic fil a making $100,000 a year.
    2
  4268. Yep.
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  4269.  @grinningchicken  a trained parrot could.
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  4270. It's called survivorship bias.
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  4271.  @derek.castle  wow. Those were some hurtful things to say but also truthful. People don't make what they're worth, they make what they negotiate. Most workers either lack the skills or resources to turn down job offers they don't like, while employers suffer no financial hardship from keeping positions vacant or underpaid. Like I said I'm a cashier. You think I want to make $10.50 an hour? You don't think I want to make 15? Too bad my skill set doesn't allow me to make that. I can't negotiate for that. And I can forget about making as much as a doctor (not saying for that to actually be the case I'm saying I simply lack the power to change my pay at my current job). I could be a cashier for three decades and I would never make $15/hr. I could wish for it daily but I'll always lack the power to make it actionable. To the doctors versus cashiers: Cashiers work for some of the most profitable companies on the planet. McDonald's and Chick-fil-A make billions of dollars in profit yearly. Their cashiers can make $100,000 a year easily. Are you still fine with them making $8 to $11 an hour? If so, we are ideologically different. If you're still fine with that, in a way you're saying these companies can make trillions in profit, septillions, they can make literally a googleplex dollars, as long as these workers remain cashiers then they don't deserve more money which means they're essentially working for nothing to me. But ultimately, you are right. I've been having too much of a victimhood complex. I've been feeling entitled to things and that's made me lazy. I would be very upset if someone who only took two classes a semester for one or two years got an associate's degree when I have to take 20 classes in the same amount of time(5 per semester). In a way, I'm also upset at students who get degrees that either get bad grades, or they simply don't try as hard at extracurricular activities. So yes I would get upset at someone who chose not to be an intern at all, let alone being an intern twice like me, demanding that they make more than me when I've done more work than them. I'm a second semester intern, and although my pay remains the same I chose to take on doing both a research paper and presentation and at a statewide conference as opposed to a college wide conference like before. So while I will make the same $900 a semester, I'm putting in more work. You're right, I'm really not entitled to a living wage or benefits or anything. The only things I deserve are what I work for, what I earn. I know I can be a physics professor and screenwriter, I just have to stop feeling sorry for myself, and have to put in work. I have to accept that not everyone is willing to do that.
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  4272. I can't afford $400k homes in my city with a $50k salary
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  4273. Correct.
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  4274. That's awful
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  4275. An Ohio pizza shop owner split the store's profits evenly with his workers for one day. Each worker made $78/hr. What you are arguing for is higher profit sharing. If that existed in USA, then places that make millions of dollars at each location like Chic Fil A would be making around $100,000/yr.
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  4276.  @manaoharsam4211  It is a power differential, sir. Doctors can make $400k/yr to start. There isn't a single cashier making $40k/yr in the country. the only way to reduce or eliminate this differential is with a guaranteed income.
    2
  4277.  @MH-ro1lg  well the government has to intervene sometimes, otherwise we wouldn't have a country where millions go uninsured.
    2
  4278. Yep.
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  4279. I've used tinder for 6 years...i am still a kissless virgin.
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  4280. That's messed up 1000%
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  4281. Exactly
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  4282. Exactly.
    2
  4283. Corporations
    2
  4284. Jesus
    2
  4285. When money is spent to help the rich it's called an "investment" but when money is spent to help the poor it's called an "entitlement."
    2
  4286. ​ @julietardos5044 exactly
    2
  4287. I need sex. I'm miserable being a virgin.
    2
  4288.  @theonenationpopulist  yep.
    2
  4289.  @Justin4u4me  he is an other wallet warrior. His moral code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  4290.  @JesseJames-vc2bm  payroll is not what's at stake here. Do you think it's acceptable for cashiers to work but still be in poverty?
    2
  4291. @JesseJames-vc2bm 1.  that 70k guy is anecdotal evidence. 2. USA is rich enough to help the working poor out of poverty. Usa has spent trillions on wars, tax cuts, corporate subsidies, and covid. Usa could end poverty overnight. It is simply not among their priorities. The core of the minimum wage debate is about values: either you find work-based poverty unacceptable or you do not. Our government does not find poverty unacceptable.
    2
  4292. Greed is a choice.
    2
  4293. Lol
    2
  4294.  @zaodedong9935  do you agree with what I've said so far?
    2
  4295.  @zaodedong9935  if i recall correctly every single Republican politician voted to not raise the minimum wage during the vote on it.
    2
  4296.  @zaodedong9935  although many Republicans do want a higher minimum wage(voters) so i was painting them all with the same brush.
    2
  4297.  @tracim3080  exactly
    2
  4298. Yep.
    2
  4299. ​ @JonMac-gt1ow yep
    2
  4300. Scott Manley, how would you feel if I was awarded a $4.1 million scholarship?
    2
  4301. I'm in a city where rent DOWN THE STREET is $1800/month. I must make 3x this to qualify. So I must make $64k/year.
    2
  4302.  @lacigalvanssleepmeditation8160  we should provide people as much education as they want.
    2
  4303. That's terrible
    2
  4304. Why would their constitution say that?
    2
  4305. States have leeway in how to administer Medicaid.
    2
  4306. I agree with you.
    2
  4307. A prostitute doesn't like you.
    2
  4308. I've never had sex. I'm nearly 30
    2
  4309. I love this comment.
    2
  4310. It makes me sick to my stomach.
    2
  4311. If he did that the minimum wage would be raised to $100 an hour in 2 hours
    2
  4312.  @toyotaprius79  beautiful to hear.
    2
  4313.  @warmsunnytoday4535  I hope I did.
    2
  4314.  @LaughterOnWater  okay that makes a lot more sense. You had me thinking for a minute that every University in this country could literally bestow degrees to people who do no work.
    2
  4315.  @LaughterOnWater  thanks for all of your help.
    2
  4316. Yep.
    2
  4317.  @John_Q  which not everyone can do
    2
  4318. Yes. It's messed up.
    2
  4319. Politicians need to close this loophole.
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  4320. @Cassady  i was a cashier for 7 years. Only on the 7th year did I get any raise at all. $0.50 at that. I had no power to negotiate for $17/hr, which isn't even a living wage anymore because of inflation and interest rates, and the fact I was kept part-time to avoid benefits(even $30/hr isn't paying for Healthcare now) You're basically saying that since I have no power/skills to receive these things, I deserve poverty.
    2
  4321. @Cassady  I'm just trying to say these things 1. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. Politicians believe worker solidarity is unacceptable, not poverty. Which is disgusting. 2. Why oppose the government providing financial assistance to people who don't make enough money to live but also oppose the government passing a living wage minimum wage? 3. Why not start all workers out at a living wage?
    2
  4322. Correct
    2
  4323. Many people believe poor people don't deserve government assistance.
    2
  4324. I'm with you, brother. I'm angry for the same reason.
    2
  4325.  @Shalott99  LOL.
    2
  4326.  @PaulADAigle  if there was a public fund? I don't know, government salaries would have to substantially increase to support poor people while in office, assuming such a public fund existed and poor people like myself could win.
    2
  4327.  @PaulADAigle  I said my former city mayor received a salary of $17,000, but was worth $76.3 million through her company
    2
  4328. This is a discussion about poverty. Poverty is a policy choice. Politicians refuse to implement robust welfare programs because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    2
  4329.  @Dubble_Bubble40  I've noticed when money is spent to help the poor it's called an entitlement but when it's spent to help the rich it's called an investment.
    2
  4330.  @Dubble_Bubble40  they're elitist. I wish a news anchor who was ACTUALLY POOR talked about America.
    2
  4331. Holy crap
    2
  4332. Most doctors don't take Medicaid in my state I have to wait months for appointments
    2
  4333. Correct.
    2
  4334. Yep.
    2
  4335. Correct
    2
  4336. I'm using welfare while in community college.
    2
  4337.  @darkwarlock123  it's messed up.
    2
  4338. These companies make enough profits to pay their workers enough to survive and noone should have to struggle to get by.
    2
  4339. Quantitative easing is the federal reserve printing money and then giving it to rich people.
    2
  4340. Except people view corporate bailouts as deserving.
    2
  4341.  @Apoplectic_Spock  it'd be $61 if it was a percentage of GDP.
    2
  4342. I wouldn't want to make that much in one year but if I did I'd accept a 90% marginal tax rate.
    2
  4343. ​ @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 then you want poverty
    2
  4344.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  so you're fine with poverty? 43% of people in USA are in poverty. If capitalism is a success, why isn't that number zero
    2
  4345.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  poverty in USA means starvation too? There are billions of dollars spent on food stamps. Poverty means not having healthcare(Medicaid) and so on. You didn't answer my question. If capitalism is so great, why hasn't poverty been eliminated in USA?
    2
  4346. ​@col.cottonhill6655 so the lapd DOES issue gun permits?
    2
  4347. No we don't. I live in NC, and it hates unions
    2
  4348.  @SlavTiger  that's evil
    2
  4349. Blame corporations who want cheap labor via illegal immigrants, not Biden.
    2
  4350. Politicians know this...they just don't care.
    2
  4351. Thank you.
    2
  4352.  @irrationalmale  why is so much financial assistance provided for the rich and poor but the middle class is ignored?
    2
  4353. Greed
    2
  4354.  @SarafinaSummers  yes
    2
  4355. ​ @Terrackhimself to punish poor people for reproducing.
    2
  4356.  @Terrackhimself  it's all EVIL.
    2
  4357. Greedy corporations are paying cashiers $10/hr in my city but ALWAYS remain understaffed.
    2
  4358. that is messed up.
    2
  4359. I love this too!
    2
  4360. Also the federal government use to cover more of the cost of state universities. This allowed the 70s to exist where college was literally $300-$700 a semester.
    2
  4361. Exactly. Conservatives treat rising worker power, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
    2
  4362. It needs to be written down in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough to people from them to not be in poverty. Enough to live a healthy and humane life.
    2
  4363. think about this: doctors can refuse to make $11/hr, but cashiers can't. Truthfully, worker solidarity cannot both exist at once. This is about priorities: politicans and corporate executives deem it more important to fight against worker power than against impoverishment.
    2
  4364. Most poor people already work. They aren't freeloaders.
    2
  4365. Exactly.
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  4366.  TheRedMenace12  read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    2
  4367.  @DrJohnnyJ  That's $44/hr adjusting for inflation....
    2
  4368.  @icemachine79  amazing to hear it. I luckily found doctors willing to accept Medicaid, allowing me to afford my medications, which come up to $739/month. I just find it upsetting that people complain about poor people such as myself being on public insurance, but also admit I can't and shouldn't be on private insurance, but I ALSO shouldn't be able to afford healthcare out of pocket(which is way more than $7.25/hr)
    2
  4369.  @jessicacowell5424  that too.
    2
  4370.  @icemachine79  thanks for hearing my situation.
    2
  4371. Exactly
    2
  4372.  @anthonytwohill9726  correct.
    2
  4373. Yes.
    2
  4374. ​ @YTEdy  exactly.
    2
  4375. The algorithms killed his channel and secular talk
    2
  4376. You can't buy intimacy or affection
    2
  4377.  @Makiaveli01  time for a french revolution.
    2
  4378. I'm crying.
    2
  4379.  @DK-zu6tt  yes. But a policy like ubi would end poverty
    2
  4380.  @Azerfield  i thought i could run for congress and end poverty until i realized too many have made up their minds on keeping poverty already.
    2
  4381.  @HaleyMary  but yet politicians act like a $15/hr minimum is worse than legalizing armed robbery.
    2
  4382.  @jordanlml  holy crap.
    2
  4383. @Jordan Meckley  Strikes and unions reveal something terrible about politics: Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. It is worker solidarity, not poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
    2
  4384.  @kolob4697  Well said.
    2
  4385.  @JoeKing69  you're right. So I'll do that.
    2
  4386. You're right.​ @drewmantia 
    2
  4387. ​ @hawkeye681 yep
    2
  4388.  @jamess2293  What are beliefs on these five things? Minimum wage, free college/ student loan debt relief, Medicare for all, ending the wars, ending homelessness.
    2
  4389. Because LGBTQ community is sexually active, most incels are not.
    2
  4390. I hope I win scholarships and grants so I can get a bachelor's degree of science.
    2
  4391. It's elitist because free college helps the poor. Fox news opposes policies which reduce poverty, because that harms rich people.
    2
  4392.  @kyle1235  would you support debt forgiveness for cars? Medical bills?
    2
  4393. Execute for corruption? I'm fine with that
    2
  4394. I do need socializing as incel. It's been 5 years....
    2
  4395. Correct.
    2
  4396.  @mikeellis2025  you missed the entire point that the onus is on corporations who want cheap labor, not immigrants or politicians
    2
  4397. ​ @fenrir7878 you sound like you dislike Medicaid/welfare.
    2
  4398. Yep.
    2
  4399. Trump wanted to cut medicaid expansion, which would leave me in dire straits.
    2
  4400. Beautiful.
    2
  4401. Wow
    2
  4402. Politicians want poor people to accept minimum wage jobs
    2
  4403. I'm a virgin. I'm 29 years old
    2
  4404. If I'm a virgin at thirty my life is over
    2
  4405. Lolol.
    2
  4406. I'm a virgin like the guy in the video.
    2
  4407. yes. it's sad.
    2
  4408.  @e1v1a19  college tuition shouldn't exist as a matter of principle. And not all people can or should work trade jobs just because they can't afford a college education.
    2
  4409.  @lj2265  that's a separate issue. University needs to be free but at the same time the government needs to ensure that jobs pay decent wages.
    2
  4410. People want an under class
    2
  4411. Yep
    2
  4412. Most people don't make $231,000 a year
    2
  4413.  @KiTheMC  federal loans could be granted to colleges that cap tuition. Maybe $10,000 a year.
    2
  4414. Republicans want poverty it seems
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  4415. Minimum wage could never cover mortgage or rent but it should now.
    2
  4416. Yep
    2
  4417. 1. Then you find poverty acceptable 2. There aren't enough skilled positions for everyone to move up to 3. Minimum wage jobs are dead end and give you no skills
    2
  4418. axiom of republicanism: rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor. Anything which changes this is, by definition, unfair.
    2
  4419. You're right.
    2
  4420.  @rickstevenson9585  Even if everyone wanted to increase their skills, there are not enough higher paying jobs for everyone. The economy can't function if the only jobs filled are trades, engineers, or doctors.
    2
  4421.  @rickstevenson9585  I'm on Medicaid now because I need health insurance while attending community college and university. Schools don't offer health insurance, minimum wage jobs don't either(by keeping me part time).
    2
  4422.  @rickstevenson9585  my replies are gone. Damn it.
    2
  4423.  @rickstevenson9585  I said not everyone can increase their skills. And I'm on Medicaid because I can only work minimum wage jobs while attending college.
    2
  4424.  @rickstevenson9585  my replies are deleted.
    2
  4425.  @rickstevenson9585  I quit.
    2
  4426. Yep
    2
  4427. It's a start
    2
  4428. Um no. I hate the full time classification. When i worked at supermarkets, I couldn't work past 28 hours a week. If i worked 32, i would receive health insurance, tuition reimbursement, prescription coverage, 401k, etc. Also i couldn't work full time since I am currently enrolled in community college.(and I was taking care of my sick mom on top of that).
    2
  4429. Really i'm going to be in poverty for the next five years. I go to community college, but I'm not backed a full ride scholarship or grant. I worked minimum wage(i'm unemployed now), and i participate in internships that pay me $900/a semester(before taxes). I get no health insurance from any of those things. And even if did, i'd have to pursue one of them full-time to qualify(cutting into the other two).
    2
  4430.  @MissDorkness  that's messed up employers only care about money and have no heart.
    2
  4431.  @barryrobbins7694  i missed the last part: if the jobs don't meet these standards, they don't need to be done. I agree brother.
    2
  4432. Using a hooker will not solve the problem of no woman loving you.
    2
  4433.  @MichaelDerryGameitect  i want a maximum wage no more than 6x the minimum wage.
    2
  4434. What would your favorite power source to use? 1. Fission 2. Fusion 3. Antimatter 4. Artificial singularity
    2
  4435. Just like Trump.
    2
  4436. An identical thing happened in the UK.
    2
  4437. I'm a virgin at 28. I have no driver's license or car
    2
  4438.  @aaronkritusan9397  I've been told I'm socially inept.
    2
  4439.  @haydenmullan7960  well. I've been told I need to work on it. Otherwise only a prostitute would accept me.
    2
  4440. @ha ha no  I'll get there. My main thing I'm holding onto is me wanting to finish getting my associates degree.
    2
  4441.  @dekippiesip  Yes to your cleaning example i agree. the supply and demand doesn't work for services because labor prices are supposed to be based on what both sides can negotiate, your argument breaks down because employers have all the power. And besides, things other than skill determine wages and/or profits: market concentrations and technological innovations(like from monopolies via intellectual property laws) lead to most economic gains.
    2
  4442.  @dekippiesip  yes prices for professions depend on things other than the supply of the workers. Mostly government laws: tax laws, Corporate Finance laws, intellectual property laws, banking laws and other regulations. And on and on. For example, if the government banned all intellectual property laws Microsoft would lose out on tens of billions of dollars per year and Bill Gates's wealth would shrink considerably and so would that of his Workforce.
    2
  4443.  @dekippiesip  again, you're admitting that's the case for low skilled labor. There's no such thing as a free market, you just admitted that. Unless by free you mean free for the employers to pay as little as they want. I don't care about the skill of any job because both sides should have some say on the prices. After all it's not just the employee working and it's not just the employer working either. They're both working and certainly not on their own. Even for skilled workers like IT the employee still needs the employer far more than the employer needs the employee-so there is still an imbalance.
    2
  4444.  @dekippiesip  another employer that pays next to nothing, right? There's no physical violence obviously, but when there's too much competition from employees, too little competition from employers, and no alternative to employment besides starvation, employees don't really have a choice between working or not working. A janitor needs to work at a corporation far more than a corporation needs the janitor. In other words the employee needs the employer far more than the employer needs the employee. This creates a massive power imbalance. And supply-and-demand of workers are not the only things that determine how much workers make. Almost all of the economic gains that the rich and middle-class have gained since the 1970s have been due to government forces: Market concentration, Capital consolidation, financialization, and technological innovation. Almost all of which via the government has been enforced via laws of many different kinds: taxes, corporate finance, banking, intellectual property, and so on.
    2
  4445.  @justinwatson2934  but they can be. It's a choice to pay certain people so little. And there aren't enough higher positions for everyone to become a manager.
    2
  4446.  @bobbilly87  competition will always ensure the employer has the upper hand. Walmart made over $129 billion in profits, yet most of their workers were not paid even $20 an hour. These people may not produce as much value as CEOs per capita, but they produce profits per year that are far greater than the minimum wage they receive.
    2
  4447.  @AbdelrahmanOsama  well you're pretty much spot on: the four factors of production: Capital, energy, land, and labor: contribute to labor prices. The problem is that there are way too many factors from way too many sources. For example, take just intellectual property laws. Abolish these and the supply of microsoft workers may stay the same, but the supply of goods drop since now Microsoft no longer has a monopoly on its software. This would crash labor prices and profits.
    2
  4448.  @bobbilly87  skill or no skill, no company functions without employees. They're literally essential to the company. With 0 staff, the company makes 0 profits. The workers are valuable enough to be paid more than $7.25, or $11, or whatever the minimum wage is.
    2
  4449.  @bobbilly87  you are confusing skills with productivity. No-one is saying bagging groceries is difficult like brain surgery(skills). This does not change the millions per year per store the MW workforce help produce.
    2
  4450.  @FletchforFreedom  Not true. Unskilled workers are not able to negotiate for higher pay due to monopsony power.
    2
  4451.  @FletchforFreedom  I know the different factors. And 3% is the slim profit margin that the employers deal with since they've built a business model that can only be sustained by low wage labor. And paying workers substantially more, say around $100k a year, results in modest price increases.
    2
  4452.  @FletchforFreedom  25% of 100 million workers is still millions of people. Better compensated? Almost half of workers make $40,000 a year or less. 76% of the nation lives paycheck to paycheck, no-one but the rich can afford college or healthcare out of pocket. And the list goes on and on.
    2
  4453.  @BiggsWaGwan  the cost of living has nothing to do with minimum wage because minimum wage workers are not the ones who purchase homes.
    2
  4454.  @BiggsWaGwan  cost of living is something that can be controlled anyway. Housing, healthcare, and college can be made affordable like they once were.
    2
  4455.  @MrDosOffical  for their respective fields, yes.
    2
  4456.  @jakewarner1993  that's what I've been saying for ages.
    2
  4457.  @jakewarner1993  I've been saying skill=/= productivity for ages.
    2
  4458.  @pnss3569  Noone is saying a CEO and fry cook are equally valuable. But CEOs are paid too much where as fry cooks are paid too little.
    2
  4459. That'd be amazing!
    2
  4460. ​@Gus_Magnusnot everyone can find a roommate or should have to in order to live IN THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
    2
  4461. @Gus_Magnus if you are implying and believing that poor people must experience hardship in order to be motivated to do more, then you have a sick mindset.
    2
  4462. @Gus_Magnus you have a sick mindset if you expect poor people to suffer.
    2
  4463. Okay then.
    2
  4464. We need to limit the number and size of acquisitions and mergers severely.
    2
  4465. Teaching is the one profession that creates all others.
    2
  4466.  @jankjaws9815  no. It's much worse than that. That is tuition per year. Plus when he went to school that $1,300( which was heavily subsidized by the government) covered tuition, books, room, food, even a parking pass. That $41,000 does not cover any of that now besides tuition.
    2
  4467.  @jankjaws9815  assuming 40 hours a week that's 2.6 years. Almost 3 YEARS of working for ONE year of school.
    2
  4468. ​ @zcorpalpha2462 he believes in the fallacy of relative privation
    2
  4469. @AGuyJustDriving  school is expensive and not everyone is capable of working. Noone wants to work minimum wage Jobs. They're forced to
    2
  4470. That's the point
    2
  4471. Why?
    2
  4472. ​ @eDn_7 I consider myself an incel. I'm told I look normal but am socially inept.
    2
  4473.  @Missy-Missy1111  you are correct. Herbert gans released that essay in 1971. Those 13 reasons are why poverty exists not just in USA, but everywhere. We fundamentally oppose society's dirty work being done without poverty (automation or thriving wages)
    2
  4474.  @Missy-Missy1111  yes. Poor people can't afford to run for office. Nor can we afford to be in office even if we did win($17,000 salary for the city mayor), and we're often blocked from voting.
    2
  4475. @genestarwind4610  you missed the entire point of my comment. My point was that politicians would make ending poverty a priority if they themselves were poor. They'd accept whatever consequences in fighting against poverty.
    2
  4476.  @missednoahsarc2654  no ceo would want to be a janitor.
    2
  4477. That's too far left.
    2
  4478. Sex is a scapegoat, I desire sex because I believe it'll fix my life for me Without me having to put in the work myself.
    2
  4479. wtf
    2
  4480. I wish I was a tv journalist. I dream of being the j Jonah Jameson for the poor.
    2
  4481. The government is run by rich people, not poro
    2
  4482. Because republicans believe poor women don't have the right to bear children
    2
  4483. Yep
    2
  4484. The real political problem with the ubi isn't the cost, but the benefits.
    2
  4485. ​ @incendiary6243 exactly.
    2
  4486. ​ @umbrabruma7255 because Americans want poverty to exist.
    2
  4487.  @AnthonyCrosby-b4r  yep.
    2
  4488. I've done those things and am still a virgin. You're lying.
    2
  4489.  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer  I want dating to be equal, easy, and fair. But i know life will never be that way. But i realized that doesn't mean I should give up on life.
    2
  4490.  @thatguyshanewhoyourefuseto1201  my brick mason grandpa(on my mom's side) had no high school degree but could afford a house... I'm like...what happened to working and being able to survive.
    2
  4491. My former incel dom was mental. Hatred isn't a good motivator.
    2
  4492.  @LoudmouthReviews  dating apps only work for gays and women.
    2
  4493. Update here. I've got a car and job. I'm fixing up my car, saving up for car insurance and to get a driver's license, working on applying to a 4 year university. I want a college education, career, and independence.
    2
  4494. ​Thank you for your advice  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer 
    2
  4495.  @havu2236  And skill and productivity are not the same either. Is stocking shelves easy? Sure is. Doesn't change the fact walmart makes billions off of these workers though. A business with no employees is no different than a business with no customers-a bankrupt business is what you have. Stop treating these people like they're slaves devoid of any value and dignity.
    2
  4496.  @danmoore6062  yes.
    2
  4497. And thess same people out here are telling us to be happy making seven twenty-five and an hour.
    2
  4498. Their reasoning behind this policy is just world fallacy. These republicans believe that people get what they deserve, that the world is perfect.
    2
  4499. Exactly .
    2
  4500. Why do politicians always focus on the middle class? I'm poor, 43% of the population is poor or low income. I'm not voting for politicians who ignore the poor.
    2
  4501.  @YourDailyJam  I agree with you. The problem I see as a poor person is politicians are unwilling to solve the welfare trap, welfare pays more than minimum wage jobs, but politicians don't raise the minimum wage to compete with welfare compensation. Of course people would choose food stamps or Medicaid over a fast food job that offers poverty wages, zero benefits or chance for advancement. I believe how America responds to society's dirty end/lower end jobs shows me ending poverty is simply not a priority for politicians. They want low wage jobs on one end, and welfare to be restricted to force poor people into such jobs on the other end. I know there are many other issues besides poverty, like immigration, healthcare, etc.
    2
  4502.  @YourDailyJam  I've always wanted to make a YouTube series about the Astrophysics of Star Trek. And self publish a book on my favorite scifi starships. I'm a nerd at heart. I've been scared, but I'll accept risks
    2
  4503.  @OccidentalAryan  i think that's a better option for me than suicide. or continuing to be on incel forums.
    2
  4504.  @zumazuma568  I'm 28. Not only have I never had sex, I've never kissed, hugged, or held hands either.
    2
  4505. Wow
    2
  4506. Yep
    2
  4507. That's the point. The reason we don't have robust welfare support programs is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Noone would work shitty minimum wage jobs.
    2
  4508. Correct.
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  4509. @@latexsalesman I don't vote because greed is too rampant. And a guaranteed income would never pass Congress. It'd give workers too much bargaining power.
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  4510. @@latexsalesman yes. We both are better now. My points are 1. we, as a society, choose what to prioritize. We consciously and collectively choose to do so. 2. We can change our priorities. 3. We have changed our priorities because of women(women's suffrage) 4. As a matter of principle, American society can prioritize/value anything else as much as women's suffrage. Such as having healthcare, ending poverty. Etc. 5. We are NOT willing to end poverty.
    2
  4511. Quit.
    2
  4512.  @Moriningland  There you go.
    2
  4513. Yep
    2
  4514. ​@amitpadgaonkar8830 yes.
    2
  4515. Would there be a purpose for a single person to own a Pathfinder?
    2
  4516. Ok.
    2
  4517.  @Cyriacs20  have you seen the cost of housing? Tuition? Healthcare? 10 an hour isn't livable anymore. Stop hating the poor when the system is the problem.
    2
  4518.  @hopeintruth5119  exactly. This is about priorities.
    2
  4519. My mom passed while I was attending community college and university at once. My grades dropped, I lost financial aid, and didn't get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my mom. My class I took at the university doesn't count towards community college system, making my passing grade worthless. I can't get into a four year university, making my community college experience worthless.
    2
  4520.  @plumbbobconstructionpants5599  they can do that too?!
    2
  4521. Elliot made this decision on his own. He was a sick person.
    2
  4522.  Shep VanDelay  that isn't why there's a distinction.
    2
  4523. They believe in the myth of meritocracy
    2
  4524. Yes.
    2
  4525. SO MUCH THIS.
    2
  4526. Keep a caste system in place. Privatize education so poor people can't go to school
    2
  4527. Exactly
    2
  4528. If he was forced into a life of minimum wage slavery, then he'd change.
    2
  4529. Exactly.
    2
  4530.  @ReclamationEra5777  excellent read and it made me realize how to end or reduce war and these horrors I see daily.
    2
  4531. Because people don't want to help the poor
    2
  4532. Shocker, right?
    2
  4533. Rich people receive trillions of dollars of tax cuts they didn't earn or work for, on top of having received trillions of dollars of inheritance they also didn't earn or work for. But they don't need to experience deprivation and hardship in order to be motivated to work, but poor people do?
    2
  4534. That is literally a catch 22. If you get tips you're poor but if you don't get tips you're still poor.
    2
  4535. That's messed up
    2
  4536. They can, the owners don't want to because cashiers are "unskilled." I.e. "unworthy" of decent wages. Doctors can make 900k and no politician cries about that but making 32k as a cashier is a travesty.
    2
  4537. Stop shaming poor people.
    2
  4538. Crazy.
    2
  4539. I feel like conservatives shoot down anything which helps the poor. Notice how Fox news never complains about CEOs making millions.
    2
  4540. Correct
    2
  4541.  @regisglass5464  I won't, don't worry.
    2
  4542.  @Marshmellow3971  so basically 2% of the country? Most people don't work in fields like that.
    2
  4543.  @henryford2950  the rich need poverty to stay rich. Nobody would be a cashier if they had enough money or skills. Ditto for house cleaners.
    2
  4544. That's the point. To ensure people can't get better jobs
    2
  4545.  @homerthompson416  I can't reply
    2
  4546.  @homerthompson416  mate that is AMAZING!!! I don't feel so hopeless. I know we're all trying to make it somehow.
    2
  4547.  @jubalrahl  would you want me to have section 8 housing?
    2
  4548.  @jubalrahl  yes. It's messed up. It's to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Being a CEO isn't a dead-end job being a cashier is.
    2
  4549.  @jubalrahl  if welfare wasn't restricted, I could live independently right now while going to community college. Then when I go to university, I would use less welfare, then when I graduate, I wouldn't need welfare at all. But the government wants me to not go to school.
    2
  4550. Yep.
    2
  4551. Jesus Christ.
    2
  4552. ​ @RyneLanders hedge fund managers make $2-$4 billion annually.
    2
  4553. Fairly odd parents, the movie!
    2
  4554. Messed up.
    2
  4555. The rich make billions and are struggling, the poor make pennies and are greedy. Conservative logic.
    2
  4556.  @morticia3295  My passions are science fiction, superheroes, and action tv shows/movies. I finished watching: Star trek strange new worlds, star trek discovery, star trek lower decks, and the Orville. I also read a lot and watch anime. My main problem is I just don't go out enough. My city has thousands of events every year and I just need to learn to go out and have fun.
    2
  4557.  @morticia3295  I've realized something: We all have the same 24 hours in a day so we can always make time for what or whom we deem important. I know at 27 years of age I should've accomplished more but the important thing is I am on the right track. I'm in community college part-time, work at a supermarket as a cashier, and participate in a mathematics-physics internship. My hope is to find a scholarship that will allow me to quit the supermarket, pursue college full-time and earn my associates degree. I'm ahead on internship work/assignments. In the very long-term I want to become an astrophysicist and screenwriter. While gaining independence along the way. I consider myself smart, kind, and funny. I have alot to work on, and I know I'll get there.
    2
  4558.  @morticia3295  thank you.... That means alot that I don't come off as hateful. .because I'm not. I just want love and acceptance
    2
  4559.  @morticia3295  that's beautiful... Thank you for inspiration!
    2
  4560.  @morticia3295  thank you
    2
  4561.  @morticia3295  yes...I guess there's hope for me.
    2
  4562.  @morticia3295  I won't give up on life or dating.
    2
  4563.  @morticia3295  you're right. I just gotta take chances.
    2
  4564. Correct.
    2
  4565. I've escaped inceldom.
    2
  4566.  @thismeaning9  what makes you say that?
    2
  4567. making millions a year on top of that.
    2
  4568. They're aware. They just don't care.
    2
  4569. Wrong. My standards are 0 but I'm a virgin at 27.
    2
  4570. That's messed up
    2
  4571. ​ @Zythus07 that made me mad
    2
  4572. you're basically arguing for higher profit sharing. Mandate companies distribute 25% or higher of the profits to the workers before that money goes towards the executives/shareholders.
    2
  4573.  @paintedlantern7248  I support a living wage minimum wage for every full-time worker in the country. It's unfortunate politicians don't support this.
    2
  4574. That's messed up
    2
  4575. That's evil
    2
  4576. ​ @IamthePhoenixRising-x1i  work requirements exist to disempower poor people
    2
  4577. They won't end poverty.
    2
  4578. @robertstone9988  i've been told i'm a loser. At 28 years old, i've got no job, driver's license, or car. I have no skills or independence. dating apps don't work. And since i have no car/license, I stay at home. That has to change. But at the same time, many broke dudes get laid. I don't get it.
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  4579. ​@robertstone9988 epic to learn. Idk my SMV. But I'm working in getting a car and license so I can go out and meet women(tinder hasn't worked for me). I'm in community college, working towards an education. I'm looking for a job(hopefully on campus, part-time), I'm changing my life. I may be broke, but I have potential.
    2
  4580. ​ @robertstone9988 I'm still a virgin but it's my fault
    2
  4581.  @robertstone9988  yes. It's not right to blame women
    2
  4582. Because they believe only the rich deserve to be well off.
    2
  4583. I know. It is sad that a much wealthier country than Iceland abandoned its people.
    2
  4584. It's disgusting.
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  4585.  @andrewgawlik4961  yes. Corporations could end poverty in an instant. But then they lose their power
    2
  4586. Evil
    2
  4587.  @KealohaHarrison  I'll add context from now on
    2
  4588. Because America don't have empathy.
    2
  4589. I wish you were USA president.
    2
  4590. Wow.
    2
  4591. I'm a virgin at 30. I can't take it anymore
    2
  4592. It needs to be written in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough to people for them to not be in poverty.
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  4593. @Cindy P  I hate to break it to you, Cindy. But the core problem is ideological, not economic: Politicians and business owners do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape. There's no amount of taxes or reducing unemployment that will change this.
    2
  4594. @Cindy P  I'm a community college student, I was a visiting student at a 4 year university, and you are correct. Community Colleges don't offer health care for students, the 4 year university did, but I'd have to be pursuing a degree/major full-time to qualify, and need a loan on top of that, leaving me in even DEEPER poverty.
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  4595. @Cindy P  Worker solidarity and poverty can not both at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
    2
  4596. Yep.
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  4597. @Ben Swartz I can't afford a used car. I make $10 an hour.
    2
  4598. What makes someone a loser?
    2
  4599. Exactly
    2
  4600. To avoid benefits
    2
  4601. Why do people think that anyway...
    2
  4602. Yes.
    2
  4603. I'm in USA and very poor. I'm screwed both by lack of free college and lack of universal health care. Since higher education doesn't offer healthcare. The problem is I can't have an income above $20,000/year or wealth of $2,000.
    2
  4604. Yep.
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  4605. ​ @RTR_87  far higher than $15/hr.
    2
  4606. Not everyone can reach that high of a ceiling.
    2
  4607.  @James-fh6ft  they only want to survive while working. They aren't asking to make $40 million a year here, just enough to get by.
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  4608. @Cassady  1. Most minimum wage workers work part-time since working full-time entitles you to benefits. I made $10.50/hr, but because of my part-time status, I only made $12k a year. 2. Making only a few dollars able 7 is still a poverty wage. 3. Poverty is a policy choice. It is something politicians decided on creating and sustaining. They could end poverty if it were truly a priority.
    2
  4609. @James  so you're an other wallet warrior: you believe some workers deserve poverty and that you have the right to tell others how much money they deserve to make.
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  4610. @Cassady  1. I don't know how else to explain this to you. If all cops became police chief at once, no one is left to do everything else. If everyone got promoted at once, Noone is left to work minimum wage. 2. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. 3. Workers want to make $20/hr. Corporations are making trillions, on top of the subsidies they receive, and refuse to pay even $10/hr as a wage floor. See the problem?
    2
  4611. First
    2
  4612.  @CoolWorldsLab  If you could manipulate negative energy, could you surround the black hole with a ring of negative energy that would create a bubble of negatively curved space?(like a negative energy cosmic string) This would shield the black hole from the Earth's gravity.
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  4613. It's a handout when it helps the poor.
    2
  4614. The rich believe the poor don't deserve to reproduce.
    2
  4615. Yep.
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  4616. That's messed up.
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  4617. Because people don't find poverty unacceptable.
    2
  4618.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  it's relative.
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  4619.  @cmdr_liella  because it's a tacit admission that the economy runs on poverty. And that poverty is a policy choice.
    2
  4620.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  productivity =\= skills. Even if Walmart makes trillions, cashiers will not be making $60/hr.
    2
  4621.  @cmdr_liella  hedge fund managers make billions of dollars every year. It's crazy Steve Cohen makes $3 billion a year when most jobs pay $40k/yr
    2
  4622. That's messed up.
    2
  4623.  @scottfrayn  the government.... And businesses...
    2
  4624. That's messed up.
    2
  4625. ​ @SuperBoots88 exactly
    2
  4626.  @Rowsy91  there are incentives to everything. What people fail to realize is there needs to be an incentive TO work. Most poor people work, their pay is just shit. Relying on welfare is better than working a dogshit minimum wage job, but people fail to acknowledge that the minimum wage needs to be raised to make welfare demand reduced.
    2
  4627. Outside of Neutron Stars and Black Holes, terrestrial colliders cannot even remotely reach the Planck Energy. Thank you for your video!
    2
  4628. Dang.
    2
  4629. They're rich, so they "deserved" it.
    2
  4630.  @spydr86  okay. Me being miserable hasn't helped me thus far.
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  4631. That's still way too low.
    2
  4632.  @Nosmo90  Thank you brother!
    2
  4633.  @Nosmo90  Thank you.
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  4634.  @EyesHaveMiles420  I'm a virgin at 28. I don't know how to lose it.
    2
  4635. Yes.
    2
  4636. While they live in paid for mega mansions.
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  4637. Politicians give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  4638. @Brian H you've ignored literally i said. Starting a business requires money and time most poor and middle class people don't have.
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  4639. @Brian H if you don't have anything to put in to creating a business, you have nothing to get out because the business won't exist.
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  4640. @Brian H that's survivorship bias.
    2
  4641. Everyone is. But politicians only care about poverty.
    2
  4642. Maybe entice people to work and welfare would be unnecessary.
    2
  4643. Rich people don't want universal healthcare because it gives workers more bargaining power. Welfare/Medicaid empowers poor people too.
    2
  4644.  @derpmansderpyskin  forgiving loans could cap tuition prices.
    2
  4645. Exactly
    2
  4646. Exactly
    2
  4647. She made 7 million in one year from talking but opposes a $15/hr minimum wage??
    2
  4648. Yay!
    2
  4649. ​ @jsebby2284 other countries have the desire. The USA doesn't.
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  4650. Not happening lol.
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  4651. I've seen poor people talk about how great the stock market is or how the minimum wage is "too high."
    2
  4652.  @anthonytwohill9726  I know. People are just blind to their own arrogance.
    2
  4653. Rich people feel like they're morally superior.
    2
  4654. Nobody except corporations who require degrees for non-minimum wage jobs.
    2
  4655. You can't get money out of politics.
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  4656.  @Skateandcreate9  that's evil right?
    2
  4657. Because women can have sex whenever they want. There are no female incels. 0.
    2
  4658. Right.
    2
  4659. Yep. I know. I'm poor and on Medicaid and I know it's awful insurance.
    2
  4660. And you've revealed the REAL political problem with a ubi.
    2
  4661. Yep.
    2
  4662. I'm a virgin at 29.
    2
  4663. Okay
    2
  4664. Don't be a waiter for 13 years
    2
  4665. Yep.
    2
  4666.  @gamergal8220  you do realize getting a job doesn't guarantee you'll receive health insurance through that job, right? And everyone cannot even work?
    2
  4667. ​ @odinson6348  yep
    2
  4668. ​ @jasperjudd I'm moving forward.
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  4669. I always compare poverty to women's suffrage. We as a society have the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, that it is a right that they are supposed to have, so we ensured that they have that right. That's it. Our Society is structured around that simple fact. Wages are not like the weather: Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed that no worker deserved to be poor then no worker then.....no worker would be poor. That's it. We would raise everyone's wages to an acceptable level and deal with the repercussions whatever they might be. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal economic forces, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  4670. If i was a politician I'd pass sweeping legislation. Make rent/mortgage no more than 10% of median income. Raise minimum wage to $45/hr. Bring back unions. Abolish at will employment. Abolish "entry level" employment. Pt2: Mandate benefits for all full time workers(paid vacation. Pension. Etc.) Medicare for all. Free college. 100% Student loan debt forgiveness.
    2
  4671.  @passerby157  well you can eliminate entry level pay, companies can then call jobs whatever they want. As long as the job pays a living wage then the job could be called stan.
    2
  4672. Then demand more pay. Punch up, not down
    2
  4673. Exactly. It's also why corporations support immigration.
    2
  4674.  @ketotamz5815  she thinks only the rich and business owners deserve help.
    2
  4675. At 30, after spending 12 years trying to earn a bachelor’s degree, I’m still stuck in a cycle of poverty. I had to rely on welfare and Medicaid while taking care of my sick mom, who was ill for six years before passing away. The stress of it all caused me to flunk out of school and lose my financial aid, and even though I appealed, it was denied. Losing Section 8 housing, food stamps, and my safety net left me homeless and starving, forced to depend on my dad just to survive. Now, without a car or access to work-study jobs, I can’t continue my education. Even if I get an associate’s degree, finishing a bachelor’s while still being poor would take over a decade. I feel like I lost both my mom and my 20s for nothing, and getting another supermarket job feels like admitting I’ve made no progress at all.
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  4676. That's true. That'd help me stop being incel. The problem with that is I'm broke. I have no driver's license or car, so I can't drive anywhere. I don't make enough money to survive so I cannot afford to go to events. I cannot even afford food.
    2
  4677. correct.
    2
  4678. You can't buy intimacy.
    2
  4679. Holy crap.
    2
  4680.  @HulkIncredible81  yep
    2
  4681. 60% poverty
    2
  4682. Yes.
    2
  4683.  @laalaa99stl  I can't see my replies.
    2
  4684. Exactly
    2
  4685. I read that. Omg it's free money for the rich.
    2
  4686. he'd be crying.
    2
  4687.  @erinmac4750  I know I can get laid when I go out in the world
    2
  4688.  @erinmac4750  sounds good. Something that is stress free. Either that or working at the campus bookstore.
    2
  4689.  @erinmac4750  I desire(in the next 5 years) 1 Full ride scholarship 2 Finish math lab manual 3 Speed up degree progress Leading to: Earn associates degree in physics Then Earn bachelor's degree in physics
    2
  4690.  @erinmac4750  I'll be going to campus IN PERSON. Hopefully I can live in the apartments near campus too.
    2
  4691.  @erinmac4750  epic. I don't know why I don't get youtube notifications anymore.
    2
  4692. ​ @marquisdelafayette1929  What's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor? Getting government money.
    2
  4693. I give them each a life sentence in prison for every dollar of campaign contributions they have ever accepted.
    2
  4694.  @jacksonwillbert1352  120 million? That is disgusting for a public servant.
    2
  4695. I have an identity larger than lack of sex. I'm a virgin at 29. I do. Not. Want to be a virgin anymore.
    2
  4696. Adam smith is still right in his grave: as long as workers bargain individually and not collectively, they can never contest corporations.
    2
  4697. Lol
    2
  4698. Impossible.
    2
  4699. Too big to fail.
    2
  4700.  @daganbanks  $5.50 for driver's license fee. $400/yr for non owner insurance. I'll have my license in 30 days.
    2
  4701. I quit my porn addiction. I'm a virgin incel at 28. Although I hate Jordan Peterson.
    2
  4702.  @TheDivayenta  thank you!
    2
  4703.  @TheDivayenta  I'll stop calling myself incel
    2
  4704.  @TheDivayenta  thank you. I will. I'll stay positive and strong!
    2
  4705.  @TheDivayenta  hello
    2
  4706. Some Republican senator said $400,000 a year SALARY is middle class. If that's the case, over 70% of this country is in extreme poverty.
    2
  4707. I've used tinder for over 5 years and haven't gotten laid.
    2
  4708.  @Kyriecat12  I come back and my replies are gone.. Again. I typed so much and to know it's all gone frustrates me to no end.
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  4709. ​ @Kyriecat12 I see my replies now.
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  4710.  @Kyriecat12  I basically said I'm going to community college, using scholarships and grants to go to school. I'm hoping to win a full ride scholarship.
    2
  4711. Republicans don't see it that way. They want to punish the poor because helping the poor Is rewarding failure.
    2
  4712. Politicians only care about funding the rich and Powerful. They need the perpetuation of the poor
    2
  4713. I'm still a virgin with help
    2
  4714. Yes.
    2
  4715. ​ @Marsha_Ann  public schools are how poor children can go to school...
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  4716.  @anonymousbosch9265  I agree. I'm a cashier at a supermarket. I started out at $10/hr. I got a $0.50 raise. I'm also kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits.
    2
  4717.  @hollydugal5299  that's messed up
    2
  4718. ​ @nathanmiller3891 I lost medicaid at 26 because nc denied medicaid expansion.
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  4719.  @sarahruss5556  you're right. Me identifying as an incel doesn't help me and it doesn't help others either. Me not having money or independence is not truly what is stopping me, it's my mindset. I must believe I am important. I am somebody. Because I AM important. i AM somebody. Self-love will not solve everything in my life, but it is a good start. I must be open to taking risks with dating and women, and understand we're all trying to figure life out.
    2
  4720.  @cassady7169  yes.
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  4721. @cassady7169  no. If you work, then you/your household should not be in poverty. Period. Child poverty is a societal problem, not individual problem on poor parents. No one wants to be poor. An employer wouldn't hire people with children. But that type of discrimination can be outlawed. Crime is a policy choice.
    2
  4722.  @ToyotaTom04  because?
    2
  4723.  @chrisking6695  he hates poor people. Let him be.
    2
  4724.  @ToyotaTom04  who says it's someone's else's labor or property? Since when is a cashier making $15/hr means you're being robbed? Or your house taken?
    2
  4725.  @chrisking6695  he's an other wallet warrior. His moral code says it's ethically wrong to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. It's a moral issue to him:
    2
  4726.  @chrishakala528  ignore him. He's an anti minimum wage troll.
    2
  4727.  @PSlo0over  he is arguing for poverty.
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  4728.  @PSlo0over  all righty.
    2
  4729.  @dannywindham3295  I'm a poor community college student. I want to have a bachelor's degree in science/physics more than anything.
    2
  4730. The supermarket I work at Gets 75-78% of sales from snap. every. Single. day. year. round
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  4731. I got one worse than you. When I was a cashier at a supermarket, my $17/hr wage proposal was rejected. I was paid $10/hr instead. My "raise" was $0.50. So I made $10.50/hr! I was kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits.
    2
  4732. that and the fact that it would establish a principle that poverty is a policy choice.
    2
  4733.  @rikhellum5652  because politicians believe unskilled workers deserve poverty.
    2
  4734.  @Mr.Plant1994  not everyone can do that
    2
  4735. That's evil
    2
  4736. I'm poor. Plus you can't buy intimacy or affection
    2
  4737. ​ @jeffgojail  not everyone can be promoted or go to college
    2
  4738. ​ @jeffgojail  not everyone can reach that high of a ceiling. The poor, mentally ill, disabled, elderly, etc.
    2
  4739. Republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class.
    2
  4740.  @1SCme  billions??
    2
  4741.  @1SCme  I know it's billions. I'm just floored by how much money that is.
    2
  4742. That's depressing.
    2
  4743.  @camero4134  do you think pizza workers deserve 40/hr?
    2
  4744. They know
    2
  4745. They're heartless hypocrites. I can never understand Republicans.
    2
  4746. Mr. Manley, please invent isolinear chips.
    2
  4747. That's why politicians are opposed to it.
    2
  4748. @CharlieCCC  I'm not depressed anymore. I'm mad at how easy the rich have it. How terrible the poor have it. And yet poor people are damned for wanting better for themselves.
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  4749. That's the point. To reinforce the lie that capitalism is based on merit.
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  4750. Because they know they will never go to prison or lose their wealth.
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  4751.  @CulchieBrand  you are correct. But politicians are too shielded from consequences to care.
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  4752.  @CulchieBrand  I hope politicians learn to not cause so much harm.
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  4753.  @CulchieBrand  I see.
    2
  4754.  @heynowls3058  to my comments?
    2
  4755. Rich and poor go together
    2
  4756. Poor people like myself have no voice
    2
  4757. ​ @guntherdeeful corporations are backed by the government, not the other way around.
    2
  4758. In other words, income inequality is completely fine because the rich "earned" their wealth. They are more hard working. Period. poor people receiving welfare promotes laziness since they didn't earn it.
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  4759. Tell me how many politicians are upset over doctors making $700,000 a year? 0. Tell me how many times Fox News is upset over CEOs making millions? 0. But they'll turn right around and demonize cashiers for wanting to make fifteen dollars an hour. Their beliefs on poverty have nothing to do with business expense, and everything to do with status.
    2
  4760.  @tazmanian1033  thanks
    2
  4761.  @kl3664  most billion dollar individuals and companies gain money through government welfare, it has nothing to do with innovation.
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  4762. @Regis Glass  right. Unfortunately, I've done a complete 360 since, during this summer, I'm not taking classes. In other words, I'm a NEET.
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  4763.  @regisglass5464  I'll have to change alot.
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  4764. ​@regisglass5464 I've made some progress since we last spoke. 1. I'm in an internship position that I'll start upcoming Fall semester. 2. I'm taking 2 classes next semester. On campus as well. 3. I purchased car Insurance. I'm on way to getting my driver's license. In the meantime I'll focus on 1. Getting a job 2. Working out at home
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  4765.  @regisglass5464  thanks. It's SLOW progress, but it's happening!!
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  4766. I would want only poor politician's passing policies on welfare and the minimum wage, not these rich a*******.
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  4767.  @Afmedic85  correct.
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  4768.  @robdillon8922  to make up for a living wage deficit.
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  4769. We could raise it much higher than the 7.25 that it is though. And I think there's a happy medium between 7.25 and 1 million.
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  4770. No because it empowers poor people.
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  4771. That's my point​ @arnibah 
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  4772.  @arnibah  thanks
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  4773. That's EXACTLY the problem with ubi: workers could reject dead-end jobs.
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  4774. Exactly.
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  4775. That IS what they are saying though
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  4776. Except Congress doesn't want poverty to end.
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  4777.  @witherschat  exactly.
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  4778. @vladimirofsvalbard9477  Inflation is a real risk associated with UBI, yes. As is unemployment, taxes and deficit increases, costlier goods, and polemics on how the government is subsidizing torpidity. This fear of the risks reveals your opposition to the inconveniences that would accompany poverty's elimination. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that you find unacceptable.
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  4779.  @bwofficial1776  "flip burgers?" So cashiers are worse than rapists now?
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  4780. Who argued for cashiers and doctors to make the same?
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  4781. War is a policy choice. Why don't nations just stop making the same choice over and over again?
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  4782. Bought a house at 19? I'm 27 and I'll never be able to afford housing unless I became a millionaire or billionaire. The average price of homes in my city is $450,000. When grandparents bought a house they paid $12000 when they made $8000 a year. That's 70% of the home price. I'd have to make $315,000/yr now.
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  4783.  @richardreese8038  there's nothing utopian about a living wage. Nothing at all. If that's fantasy, then so is women having the right to vote. Since both voting laws and poverty are policy choices.
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  4784.  @richardreese8038  you can't pay for two college degrees making minimum wage. Like you once could. If it was that easy, no one would have student loan debt or apply to scholarships.
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  4785. Poor women have a right to have children ​ @petercollingwood522 
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  4786. Because republicans don't want the poor to have children or societal advancement
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  4787.  @ablindwatchmakerUT  profit motive for housing wouldn't be a problem if people made more money. Even $30/hr couldn't afford a $800k home. $60/hr couldn't.
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  4788.  @ablindwatchmakerUT  It's sad. Our country could house everyone. We could end homelessness and even mortgage. We're wealthy enough.
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  4789. Wow.
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  4790. I'm not gay
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  4791. Many poor people have kids anyway
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  4792. That's crazy.
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  4793.  @Tony_Cardoza  I'm changing so I hopefully won't stay a virgin incel forever
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  4794. Because the government believes disabled people deserve poverty since they're unable to work.
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  4795. The GOP is implying that poverty and motherhood are incompatible—banning abortion to force poor women to give birth, then cutting welfare to deny them the means to raise their children. It’s a system that enforces childbirth but withholds support, turning motherhood into a punishment for being poor.
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  4796.  @moobenkoe  I know. I couldn't get it. It sucks. That housing also is banned for poor people attending community college or university such as myself.
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  4797. ​ @beyondreality8506  LOL.
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  4798.  @A3421  everyone doesn't qualify for those, and even if they did, everyone still couldn't afford college anyway. I don't recall saying minimum wage workers should afford a house but you're admitting you have some disdain for such workers like many people do.
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  4799.  @A3421  what? I do not believe it. There are not enough scholarships for all college students, winning a scholarship is like winning the lottery. If you think people don't go to college or own homes due to laziness, you believe in just-world fallacy, so I know I can't reason with you. That being said, I'm in community college now and live with my dad, I won a full tuition scholarship. I'm still poor, but the point is everyone everywhere cannot just "work harder" and succeed. It's magical thinking.
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  4800. Yep.
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  4801. Google this: an ohio pizza shop owner paid his workers according to company profits, his pizza workers made $78/hr.
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  4802. @Kyle Reber  yes. He then returned to skill based pay, his workers made $11/hr.
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  4803. Lol you're sick for justifying poverty. Minimum wage does not pay for college nor give you skills.
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  4804. Community College costs money even with financial aid.
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  4805. ​ @BEESANDTOASTY exactly
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  4806.  @ColoringKaria  It's called Calvinism.
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  4807. Wow
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  4808. LOL they'd hang up on a cashier making $9/hr
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  4809.  @MetalheadAndNerd  no, I mean you need a way of creating gravitational waves/warping space time. The only objects capable of doing so are: neutron stars, black holes, cosmic strings. FTL travel requires anti gravity/negative energy. Only antimatter and black holes can supply the energy needs for a starship.
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  4810.  @MetalheadAndNerd  yep
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  4811.  @rimor3579  not powerful enough
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  4812. I feel worthless for being a virgin at 28.
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  4813.  @Kelly-nt2rq  no. I've been too scared. Now I'm not scared anymore, but me having a low paying job means I lack independence/ability to socialize. Hopefully, I can get accepted into these entry-level jobs at a biotechnology company.
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  4814.  @dant3175  yep. lol.
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  4815. I'll stop calling myself incel and try to socialize. I want to lose my vcard BEFORE I'm 30
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  4816. That's evil
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  4817. He didn't want sex. He wanted status.
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  4818. Yep
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  4819. He believes poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  4820.  @MatthewTheWanderer  I do. As do most Republicans, which is the real reason conservatives oppose welfare, from an economic perspective.
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  4821. @leobigelow7021  you're saying you won't accept the risk in abolishing poverty.
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  4822. @MatthewTheWanderer  1. "He" believes poor people don't deserve government assistance 2. He is implying that if inflation is the risk with helping the poor, and he refuses to accept that risk, then he doesn't deem poverty intolerable. 3. ubi is welfare magnified- government assistance to help low income.
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  4823. What also isn't discussed here is in USA, being poor doesn't automatically qualify for student loans or financial aid in the first place. You have to have good grades AND go to school full-time. So if your grades drop or you can only attend school part time, you don't qualify for help.
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  4824.  @emort6  so ensuring small businesses survive is more important than workers making a living wage?
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  4825. It's worse than what you see in the video. I go to community college. It costs $5,000/semester, even with a scholarship I could only pay for classes part time. Community colleges don't cover living expenses for students. At one point I went to my school's food bank, didn't receive enough food, got leftovers from a business meeting, and I STILL didn't receive enough food to eat. I went on food stamps for poor people, but lost them because the requirements are to work, and school isn't classified as work. So I got food stamps for three months but can't get them for another 36. I'm on Medicaid/public insurance for poor people because my medication costs $700/month. I can't rely on rental assistance because that requires working too.
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  4826. Because poor workers have no representation in corporate media.
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  4827. ​ @itachi377 kids don't deserve poverty either? Not everyone has a family capable and willing to support them.
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  4828. That's not true. The total revenue of a company is irrelevant because workers are paid by skill, not profitability. If every Walmart store made $50 trillion in profits every nanosecond they would STILL pay their cashiers the same pittance they do now. Places like Chick-fil-A make millions of dollars at each location and could afford to pay their cashiers around $100,000/year, but instead the cashier's make $8.50/hr and don't work full-time on top of that.
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  4829. We are paying more as a society for people to be paid poverty wages than living wages. It costs more money to provide welfare than to simply pay workers a living wage. This is to say nothing of the fact that the money spent fighting against unions and benefits is greater than the money corporations would spend on giving workers benefits in the first place.
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  4830. Correct.
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  4831. It's called the myth of meritocracy.
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  4832. Yep.
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  4833. Yep.
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  4834. That's messed up.
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  4835. It's about priorities. It's about what we value the most.
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  4836. I realized our government doesn't want to end poverty.
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  4837. Yes
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  4838. The rich are scared of change
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  4839. They thrive off of poverty, so they keep wages low.
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  4840. It's still messed up because it's treating poor people like petulant children.
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  4841. Beautiful
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  4842. It seems inconsistent to advocate for women having a voice in government and society while opposing others having a say, especially when those groups aren't as sizable or influential as women historically have been. The impact of women on society far surpasses the requests made by any other demographic group, yet while support is extended to women's causes, similar support is not granted to other marginalized groups. Initiatives like canceling medical debt, mandating paid sick leave, or aiding immigrants pale in comparison to the strides made by women, yet they are often overlooked or dismissed.
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  4843. But then poor people will refuse minimum wage jobs.
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  4844. @OmarThescriblomale  well I've made many mistakes in life. I currently want to earn a full ride scholarship and finish my pre calculus lab manual. My primary goals are to earn my associates degree, then my bachelor's degree of physics(in 5 years). To become a physicist.
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  4845.  @omarthescriblomale8279  thank you. I'll get there.
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  4846. Exactly
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  4847. That's messed up
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  4848.  @davidsmith-uw2ci  it's about greed to politicians.
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  4849. Politicians have a very simple choice in America: you can have poverty, or you can have worker solidarity, but you can not have both. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not poverty, that politicians refuse to allow.
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  4850.  @scott1191  I'm on welfare now. I use Medicaid and food stamps while attending community college since working minimum wage jobs don't support me, are dead end, and I'm too old. I have won some scholarships and grants, if I win a full ride grant I'll never use welfare again.
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  4851. That's just evil.
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  4852. Yep
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  4853. ​ @thisismyrealname2860  the reason workers make so little is because there is a power differential. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. At my last cashier job, my boss rejected my $17/hr wage proposal, paid me $10/hr instead, then gave me a raise of $0.50 after 6 months. Screw this country for loving poverty.
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  4854. We still don't even have a $15 minimum wage.....
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  4855. His problem is that he sees economics as too simplistic. First off, skill and productivity are not the same. Second off, the only way to measure productivity is by how much money a company produces but that is determined by a myriad of factors, the least of which has to do with skill.
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  4856. His bigger problem is that he doesn't want unskilled workers making anything. Yes working at McDonald's requires minimal Education and Training, but these workers are producing millions of dollars per year per store. They produce about $10,000 an hour during rush hour, thus they produce way more than minimum wage.
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  4857.  @jenellejessop2454  Yes. That is correct. Around $100,000/yr.
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  4858.  @jenellejessop2454  on weekends some stores make more in those two days than the other 5 days combined.
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  4859. @btetschner  you're right. I'm in community College. Good news it's on campus next semester. Bad news I need to get a job, license, and car begins then. I've been scared of having sex..
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  4860.  @btetschner  yep. I've never asked a woman out...
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  4861. @btetschner  I'm scared of intimacy because of my autism and because I'm obsessed with physics. Physics is clear cut, emotionless. With sex....it isn't something I can simply plug in a variable and understand. It requires risk and work to do. Unless I used a hooker, but I know hookers don't like me
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  4862. ​ @btetschner  I'm only 7 months late because youtube doesn't always notify me of replies. In the 7 months since I posted, I went on a date, got a driver's license, car,scholarship, and go to school full-time and have been to comedy clubs/sports bars.
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  4863. ​ @btetschner I'm 29 now and still a virgin. But that is acceptable.
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  4864.  @rps1689  okay.
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  4865.  @rps1689  I just wanted to know your opinion. Well the bigger reason is because I've noticed the real reason why many people, especially conservatives, actually oppose a higher minimum wage. The real reason is because many people feel that they are the moral arbiter, that they have the right to decide how much money other people deserve to make. And they believe it's unfair to pay minimum wage workers more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. Noone cares about neurosurgeons making $900,000/year but gets upset over cashiers making $14/hr. In some cases, $12/hr. In other words, many people do NOT want minimum wage workers to have a living wage based on MORALS, not ECONOMICS.
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  4866.  @rps1689  I wish it was written in the constitution that one job must pay enough for people to not live in poverty.
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  4867.  @hertfordable  A family of seven? I looked up it, for me to raise just a family of four on my own I would need to make $60 an hour. Not only is no minimum wage job paying that most jobs don't pay that period. 60% of Americans make as a household $75,000 a year or less, so tens of millions of people don't make anywhere near enough to raise seven kids. What am I supposed to do to make $60/hr? become a nuclear engineer? (I'm not angry at you. But the government )
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  4868.  @davidpeterson7605  who cares the type of job? Every job deserves to support a family.
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  4869. ​ @adamcornell1186  exactly.
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  4870.  @tammyjantzen9004  I agree with you. What I'm saying is the corporate leaders and many heartless conservatives do NOT believe this.
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  4871.  @tammyjantzen9004  damn it. I might have to switch to a different account. I'll say it again: EVERYONE deserves healthcare.
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  4872. I have an analogy for you. The problem with the minimum wage/MW jobs isn't "lack of skills," it's that MW jobs are a bullshit position. Restaurant and retail employers dumbed down these jobs so they now possess the lowest skill ceiling possible. This ensures wages for the jobs remain low. An analogy: imagine i commissioned 10,000 people to build the golden gate Bridge. I give them 10 years to complete it.(let's say that's the average resources needed). On the 2nd day i cut the workforce down to 1,000. On the 3rd day 100. On the 4th day 10. On the 5th i cut down the completion time to 6 weeks. On the 6th i ban all construction workers from being allowed to carry, Make, or use tools. I.e. they can only build with their bare hands. Obviously that bridge isn't getting built. Because it's a bullshit position. The job was dumbed down/restricted in what the worker could do.
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  4873. I hope I find a girlfriend. I'm 27.. I've never dated. Kissed. Held hands. Or had sex. I have no driver's license. Car or place of my own. I do work, go to community college and participate in a mathematics-physics internship.
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  4874. ​ @Saberwolves84 exactly.
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  4875. Because rich people believe in just-world fallacy. In their eyes, society is perfect and any problems can be overcome through effort alone. This means hard work always pays off. If their world view was incorrect, then it's admitting individual effort can only get you so far. That hard work doesn't matter. In final analysis, Conservatives assign value to people based on how hard they work. If you are not willing or capable of working hard, then you have no value.
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  4876.  @Rowsy91  they're not filled by mostly kids.
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  4877. As an incel, i realize this. However, this doesn't erase my desire for sex. I want to lose my vcard.
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  4878. That isn't accounting for inflation or wage stagnantion.
    2
  4879. You're right
    2
  4880.  @Lildoc911  I agree with you. I just see many people demean minimum wage workers like myself. I'm making $8.50/hr at McDonald's while they make millions yearly.
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  4881.  @Lildoc911  it's okay. I always forget to add context to my comments.
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  4882.  @Lildoc911  the real reason many people think a living wage is wrong is because they judge people by skills. They believe Minimum wage workers deserve poverty. A while ago, a pizza owner paid his employees based on profits, not skills, the workers ended up making $78/hr. The main complaint was "they put slices on a dough! They don't deserve to make $11,000 a month!"
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  4883. Yep.
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  4884. Next up we'll need Robin.
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  4885. It's by design
    2
  4886.  @globalwarmhugs7741  he's a troll.
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  4887. Correct. But unfortunately you have neglected to understand the real reason why many conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage. The real reason that most conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage is because of their moral code: they believe it is ethically unfair to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They believe that poor people simply don't deserve to be paid all that much, that they're asking to be paid more money than their crappy labor is really worth. If a doctor wanted to make $100,000 a year, no one complains. but if a cashier expected the same salary everyone complains.
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  4888. Yep.
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  4889.  @1987BillyBob  the poverty level is a concrete number. What are you talking about?
    2
  4890.  @1987BillyBob  that's still a concrete number. At some point, someone somewhere needs welfare or charity in order to survive anywhere in the USA if they are paid minimum wage.
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  4891. Only because the people who debate it are rich and don't need financial aid.
    2
  4892. Times have changed.
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  4893. I made $10/hr as a cashier. My raise was $0.50. Many customers were appalled at how little I made. One customer gave me $50. To this day, I still don't know what to be mad about the most: The fact that they only wanted to pay me ten dollars. That their idea of a raise was 2 quarters. Or the fact that I made less than $15 even with that. Or the fact the Tip I was given($50) was more than what I made that day from working($46).
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  4894.  @thething1710  also half a million dollars a year is disgusting. I don't think anyone besides doctors and CEOs are worth that salary.
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  4895. ​ @1TalldrinkH2O if you want the rich to not pay higher taxes then support raising the minimum wage to help the working poor pay higher taxes. 43% of the population is poor or low-income
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  4896.  @1TalldrinkH2O  I understand. But you have to understand these lower end jobs have been dumbed down, have had the skills removed out of them. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. That is the fault of the employer for creating dead-end jobs that pay so little and offer no career advancement. It isn't on the fault of workers who are expected to work for low wages. I will never understand how people admit lower end jobs are dead-end but then criticize people for not having skills in a job they just admitted was dead-end.
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  4897. Medicaid is awful too
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  4898.  @valerielhw  thanks for your input
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  4899.  @valerielhw  my mom denied from lack of Medicaid expansion, now I'm 30 going to school because I took care of her.
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  4900.  @valerielhw  I will vote because I realize giving up changes nothing
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  4901.  @valerielhw  poverty persists so poor people do lowerend jobs
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  4902. But logic doesn't sway the people who hate the poor
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  4903. @Alle Warten Auf Das Licht they don't. Women aren't the problem.
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  4904. Yes lol
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  4905.  @lars2894  that's wrong on the company part.
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  4906. @crawdaddy2004  I am suffering so much because of politics. So much, and my state has not made any decisions to make my life better. I guess not voting is giving up. I...don't want to give up.
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  4907.  @talyahr3302  okay. It will be so hard to vote
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  4908. Then you're more upset over not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage
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  4909.  @Sptnm  that's messed up too.
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  4910. But at the same time North Carolina opposes raising the minimum wage. So they allow inflation of everything from housing to education but they also allow stagnant wages. Hello?! Either raise wages to be way higher or bring the cost of things down to be way lower but they don't do either, instead trapping people like myself in debt and welfare.
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  4911. What you're saying is it's more important to mitigate the risk of unemployment than deal with reducing poverty.
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  4912.  @norwegianblue2017  automation is an acceptable risk
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  4913.  @norwegianblue2017  then you're more concerned about ending automation than ending poverty.
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  4914. If you're rich
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  4915. I work as a cashier and make $10/hr. Not only do I do that, but I attend community college AND work an internship. Cashier job pays $10/hr at 28 hours a week. The internship pays $15/hr at 4 hours a week. I don't make enough to live.
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  4916. Because the implication is that poor people are lazy and don't work hard enough to earn government assistance. Meanwhile, rich people receive trillions of dollars of tax cuts and inheritance they don't earn and nobody complains
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  4917.  @ErutaniaRose  thank you. I found somebody to agree with me.
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  4918.  @ErutaniaRose  subsidizing poor people is cheaper than subsidizing rich people and bailing out their failed businesses, so this debate over welfare was never about the "costs" to begin with.
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  4919. I'm a virgin at 29. I sit at home all the time
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  4920. ​@zacharybosley1935 exactly
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  4921. Cars aren't a constitutional right
    2
  4922.  @AlexKawa20  thanks.
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  4923.  @ursamajor6347  yep. You're preaching to the choirs.
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  4924.  @JootjeJ  yes
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  4925. I'm a guy. At 28, I've never kissed, hugged, held hands, or had sex.
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  4926. Poor people such as myself have no power to change anything.
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  4927.  @mantisliving  but yeah you get my main point.
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  4928. It's called the fallacy of relative privation
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  4929. You're saying it's more important for business owners to have cheap labor and prices than workers making a living wage.
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  4930.  @gamervox1707  okay.
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  4931. More money for the rich and less the money for the poor.
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  4932. LOL.
    2
  4933. ​ @emmadobbins694 it's more fundamental than that
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  4934.  @215juliusgirl  that's messed up
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  4935.  @HorriFied-s4n  yes it is.
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  4936.  @amberscoutstarwatcher  my replies are gone
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  4937.  @SnooperSwizzle0728  yes
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  4938.  @Cuddly-Cactus  you would be correct. Thank you for sharing your story with me
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  4939.  @scottgrindrod  yes
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  4940.  @JimmyNeutron-up9cu  and your answer is the exact reason why this law persists. Disabled people aren't a burden and the taxpayers already pay to subsidize many other groups of people who aren't seen as a burden.
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  4941.  @kurisu7885  yes.
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  4942.  @thecraftycyborg9024  YES IT IS
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  4943.  @BatMan-oe2gh  thanks
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  4944. They hate the poor.
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  4945.  @lbthingsstuffmore9513  I said in this thread earlier that avarice is a choice, a choice that society collectively and consciously chooses to make. By extension, we can stop making it at any moment. If I offered Kamala Harris $1 billion to deny women the right to vote, would she take the money? What about for $2 billion? 3? Hell, what if revoking patents from big pharma was the only way women could vote? She'd support revoking the patents in two seconds. But she's not willing to go that far to reform healthcare.
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  4946. @Money-28-  all politics brings harm to people's lives somewhere, since not everyone wants the same thing. People's lives are already at stake, they're already harmed. Every day it happens right now.
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  4947. @Money-28-  all these steps wouldn't need to be so severe if price gouging hadn't gotten this far.
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  4948. Because it empowers poor people
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  4949. I'm on Medicaid but most doctors don't take it. It's not a simple income grant because, if it was, it'd pay more than most jobs.
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  4950. The rich have friends. The poor only get disdain
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  4951. I hope I can find sex and a girlfriend. I've never kissed, held hands, hugged or had sex at 28.
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  4952.  @sensible1163  it seems like it's about status, i.e. belonging to a specific ideology, rather than debating facts.
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  4953. She doesn't want to risk her $12 million a year salary.
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  4954.  @bt3779  I can't do construction. But I understand your point. There are many jobs that pay above $10/hr. Especially with 10 million jib vacancies.
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  4955.  @myriamickx7969  yes.
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  4956. I want to be a science journalist and teach people positive aspects of life.
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  4957. Tinder didn't work for me I'm incel now
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  4958. I'm still a virgin.
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  4959. 3 years ago I was a NEET. Now I'm a cashier, college student and intern. Unfortunately, I'm still a virgin.
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  4960. I'm an incel because no woman desires sex with me.
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  4961. Thank you.
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  4962. Yep.
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  4963. Republicans want cheap labor and a desperate workforce.
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  4964. The reason republicans add work requirements to Medicaid is to try and force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Since welfare compensation is higher than what can be earned by minimum wage employment poor people have no incentive to work them.
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  4965. @DebraJohnson  because it isn't about the costs, but the benefits. The government providing financial assistance for lower and middle classes sets a precedent that poverty is a policy choice. That people don't have to be trapped by debt. Child poverty was cut in half with a stroke of a pen via the EITC, then that extra aid was cut.
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  4966. $6 an hour in 1969, with just a 4% annual inflation rate, translates to $42.11 today.
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  4967. Wrong and disgusting mindset to have.
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  4968. College students don't control tuition
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  4969. Exactly LOL.
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  4970. Yep. Capitalist class wants poverty and debt to maintain their strangle over workers.
    2
  4971. Yep
    2
  4972.  @dogsreadtruth4548  thanks for your story
    2
  4973.  @rpgmomma8404  yep
    2
  4974. ​ @PhotoJohn80 that's messed up
    2
  4975. @bluehero9666  yes. That's even better.
    2
  4976. ​ @cassady7169  those workers could make $100,000/yr if paid by the profits of the business or the workers had more bargaining power.
    2
  4977.  @cassady7169  making $7.25 an hour?
    2
  4978.  @cassady7169  you're moving the goal post. What's wrong morally with these workers making a living wage?
    2
  4979.  @cassady7169  you also need education and experience. Something a minimum wage worker lacks the most.
    2
  4980. @Cassady  not everyone can go to college. Not everyone can advance up the career ladder. Opening a business To make enough money for yourself implies there aren't enough high paying jobs to begin with. You cannot possibly believe that half of the country that's poor/low income is because they believe poverty is an attractive choice. Also, you can't believe that simply working hard enough will cause things to turn out fine.
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  4981. @Cassady  no. I'm asking you how does such a job build skills?
    2
  4982.  @cassady7169  if it's doable. That implies people like myself are lazy.
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  4983. @Cassady  I'm a cashier, college student, and physics intern. My cashier job teaches nothing beyond how to use a register. It offers no avenue to pay for college, no avenue for career advancement, no benefits, nothing. In fact, I have to quit soon because I can't afford even a car at a crummy wage of $10.50/hr. Then I have people telling since I have no kids or disabilities, and am past the age of 25, I have no obstacles to overcoming poverty.(without kids or disabilities I'm ineligible for welfare since I'm older than 25).
    2
  4984.  @Rank1PeakJerkmateChampion  all priorities are not created equal. If people having non poverty wages as the top priority, then the government would do far more to help workers.
    2
  4985. I wish corporations changed their wage structure. Corporations pay people by skill and not profitability. This screws over workers. If employees got a fair share of the profits places like Chick-fil-A that make millions of dollars at each location would have to pay their cashiers $100,000/year.
    2
  4986. Am I a loser?
    2
  4987.  @LilyBecca  okay. I'll do that. I'll stop over analyzing it.
    2
  4988.  @LilyBecca  thank you for giving me hope
    2
  4989. That's messed up.
    2
  4990. Nope
    2
  4991. Correct.
    2
  4992. Poor people
    2
  4993. ​ @Window4503 ok
    2
  4994. ​ @smitty1647 exactly
    2
  4995. The old days the USA had manufacturing jobs, strong unions, and no competition. Technology, globalization, and union busting have transformed our country into a low wage nation.
    2
  4996. Add on complete loan cancelation and free college.
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  4997.  @Hope-qy8dr  sorry I've been entitled. I just need to grow up.
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  4998. ​ @michaelbugner7011 that's messed up
    2
  4999. Inflation.
    2
  5000. No. Tying immigration to work is like tying welfare to work. Corporations want cheap labor, that's why corporations love illegal immigration.
    2
  5001.  @lovesgucci1  oh ok.
    2
  5002. Yep
    2
  5003. Inflation
    2
  5004. You can't buy intimacy
    2
  5005. The reason conservatives oppose a guaranteed income is because then you couldn't force people to accept minimum wage jobs.
    2
  5006. I'm too poor to do that
    2
  5007. The minimum wage is still $7.25/hr. Even $15/hr wouldn't afford a 2 bedroom apartment now.
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  5008. I cry too
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  5009. ​ @CautionHighWavesAhead- it sure does
    2
  5010. I just looked it up. He listed 3 ways to end war... Which would work if implemented.
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  5011. They are only against it for workers they deem unworthy.
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  5012. This is a moral issue to you, you believe poor people don't deserve that much money.
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  5013. You're proving my point that you believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money ​ @lmitchell9023 
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  5014.  @brothersandsistersofvalhalla  Back in the 1970s there was also higher profit sharing within corporations. 25%-35%(sometimes even 40) of profits were distributed to workers BEFORE going to executives/shareholders. Now corporations(executives) take roughly 75% of profits for themselves.
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  5015. ​ @Youtubedeletes the government axed tuition free college, remember? And trade schools too. And has refused to expand pell grant aid/eligibility to be anywhere near enough to cover the full cost of college attendance.
    2
  5016. Yep
    2
  5017. I want to have sex and a girlfriend.
    2
  5018. Yep.
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  5019. @Jim thank you.
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  5020. Exactly. Being a cashier is a dead-end job that gives you no skills.
    2
  5021. Key and Peele
    2
  5022. The Sun produces fusion via gravitational confinement.
    2
  5023. I hope your daughter is doing better. You said a while back she worked a minimum wage job with no health insurance. I was in her position, but because I'm able-bodied AND in college, I can't receive medicaid.
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  5024. @valerielhw  it's okay. 1. I'm passionate about poverty the most because it affects my life the most 2. The existence and magnitude of poverty in USA reveals our lack of compassion. 3. This lack of compassion causes all suffering in the world. And part 2 1. The REAL reason welfare has so many bullshit restrictions is because poor people such as myself will not work for slave wages if we have government benefits. Being a CEO isn't a dead-end job. Being a cashier is.
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  5025. @valerielhw  I'm sorry about your daughter. I obviously don't have the cure for cancer or to reform Healthcare, but if I did, I'd fix it all.
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  5026.  @valerielhw  my only option is to apply for scholarships and grants, and hopefully win a full ride with, so I can finish community college (which costs money even with financial aid AND pell grants), and eventually bachelor's degree in physics. I desire to become a physicist to inspire people, and I'm not letting my poverty stop me.
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  5027.  @valerielhw  beautiful. Your comments make me cry from joy. I hope I have inspired you. I'm not evil like these politicians.
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  5028. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier
    2
  5029.  @lindala412  yeah
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  5030. The real political problem with robust welfare programs isn't the costs, but the benefits. Even if it costed $5 to provide sufficient government aid to all poor people nationwide, politicians won't do it for this reason. If poor people made enough money to afford healthcare, childcare, etc. Without working, then they will never work jobs that don't provide them with said things- like minimum wage jobs.
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  5031. My Pell grants appeal was denied-leaving me needing 90 credits to get it back. I no longer qualify for emergency assistance. I've lost my safety net. Working at a supermarket again leaves me poor and dependent on my dad. I'm placed on academic suspension because I failed 2/3 classes. I'm not willing to fight it because I'd still have no money for tuition moving forward. I'm quitting community college. I don't want to move forward. I'll never be able to attend university because of my poverty. Sure, if I was that Hanoi woman and was awarded a $420k scholarship or grant I'd be fine
    2
  5032.  @Zombie1Boy  don't forget college was much cheaper then.
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  5033. That's disgusting.
    2
  5034. It exists to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    2
  5035. Poor people go to public schools, rich people go to private schools. I believe private schools should be banned.
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  5036.  @dl2839  overall, not per student. And private schools get to be more selective, whereas public schools must take everyone in.
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  5037.  @dl2839  being selective does not work for public education, because there is massive inequality that cannot be dealt with if public schools were limited like private ones. The profit incentive does, but in a way, does not matter when it comes to public education. Otherwise, schools would filter out low income, disabled, mentally ill, or homeless students, any students that costs alot of money and time for schools to deal with.
    2
  5038.  @dl2839  except private schools don't do that. If private schools took in everyone and received enough funding to cater to all students, they'd spend even more on students than public schools do. It'd be great if there were an unlimited number of scholarships or grants, but that isn't the case.
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  5039.  @dl2839  private schools are more efficient because of their filtering. I don't believe education should be gate keeped/held behind a paywall. Everyone should be allowed to pursue education regardless of their income, wealth or family status. Our ideal systems are fundamentally different. I desire 1. No private schools 2. Student loans forgiven 3. Tuition free higher education, including community colleges 4. Grants be provided for all low income and lower middle class students Although one could argue community college is a sham since it might take longer overall to complete a degree(since not all courses transfer)and you're spending more money since they don't cover any living expenses, and are very far apart.
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  5040.  @dl2839  you're welcome. I disagree with charity because it's insufficient and immoral. I'm glad we had a meaningful discussion.
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  5041.  @dl2839  my replies are gone again but I said it was a good discussion
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  5042. It's a way to demean poor people.
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  5043.  @gabefloyd172  thank you! Someone agrees with me makes me feel less crazy LOL.
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  5044. ​ @Womendeservebetter1 exactly
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  5045. Correct.
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  5046. The poverty line is too low.
    2
  5047. I've never had sex as an incel but I want to experience sex for fun and pleasure.
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  5048. I'm a cashier, and I make $10.50 an hour. If I were eligible for welfare, I would make more money in welfare benefits working part-time Vs working full time, and not receiving benefits.
    2
  5049. Most incels are NEETs or work minimum wage jobs and are broke either way.
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  5050. That's the point. Republicans hate welfare because poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    2
  5051. My replies are gone
    2
  5052. I'm mad.
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  5053. That's messed up.
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  5054.  @kevinoffuttisagirl259  I cry for the millions in poverty.
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  5055.  @graham1034  so lemme get this straight... Businesses have 0 interest in making homes people can afford and government isn't going to invest in housing to make it cheap enough to have say 80% home ownership(no mortgage or rent) either?
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  5056. So you want to mitigate the risk of unemployment than helping workers have a living wage
    2
  5057.  @blueglass1163  the point is not everyone can afford college, which is wrong. Lack of money should be not be a barrier to pursuing higher education.
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  5058.  @blueglass1163  and what if they want a job that isn't a trade?
    2
  5059. Yep.
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  5060.  @mrrationalhippie  I used dating apps, facing radio silence. I've decided I need to go out into the world.
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  5061. I take two medicines here in USA. One is $700 and the other is $1,400. In canada, even without insurance, those two medicines would cost $400.
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  5062. Lol that's messed up.
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  5063.  @loganc6501  wow man. People make billions yearly while 80% of the country is trapped by never ending debt.... I make $10/hr at the same time people are buying Lamborghinis in cash....
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  5064. If you divided income evenly every household would make $757,000 a year. If you removed the income contributions by the top 10% that number drops to $22,000.
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  5065. ​@bluewaters3100 the reason politicians restrict welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  5066. That's not real intimacy.
    2
  5067. It is now.
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  5068.  @Lumi_Lumi13  wow
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  5069. Yes.
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  5070. They've crossed that point already.
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  5071.  @snowlothar45  how do you afford a $500k home?
    2
  5072. Except rich people don't want universal healthcare.
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  5073. That's messed up and also ironic.
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  5074.  @theterminaldave  okay thanks.
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  5075.  @theterminaldave  retail is just as shitty now. My job paid me $10/hr
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  5076. @theterminaldave  thanks. I'm still enrolled in community College, I hope to earn a full ride scholarship in the next few months. I got to put in the work to do that, but I'll get there. In the meantime, I was thinking of being a journalist on the radio.
    2
  5077.  @theterminaldave  thanks. I got this! I'll get my dream job!(one of the 3 LOL)
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  5078. @theterminaldave  I truly believe the free college debate is about values: rich people want there to be a caste system. And what's terrible is they'll get it no matter what. 1. The government has not passed tuition free community Colleges and universities 2. Even if the government did do this, that leaves out private schools and graduate schools. 3. This loan forgiveness also leaves out living expenses. 4. Scholarships and grants are not guaranteed for the poor and are rarely enough. 5. Scholarships CANNOT be enough. Since 140 million people are in poverty, there isn't enough scholarship money to give every poor person a full ride. 6. One student won $9 million of scholarships in my state, for that to be possible with $140 billion scholarship funds, there'd have to be 16,000 poor people nationwide.
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  5079. @theterminaldave  thanks for your help, brother. One day, you'll be watching ME on TV. Unlike these hosts, I'll be compassionate towards the poor and won't sell out to Corporations. Enjoy your life :)
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  5080. @theterminaldave  I hadn't thought of that LOL. Imagine I won some huge awards, $38 million. My donors would expect me to rival CNN in two years ROFL.
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  5081.  @theterminaldave  I messed up when I was younger doing community college and lost financial aid, but I haven't given up on it. I've returned to community college 8 years later.
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  5082. The real problem with a UBI is that it empowers poor people. It is why the family assistance plan under Nixon failed.
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  5083.  @Mongoose-ct6us  it wasn't UBI, but it was a start towards it that made it fail. It would've contained a guaranteed minimum income for poor people unable to find work. Robert Long opposed this since the government grant would've exceeded the wages earned from low wage jobs. It's like expecting doctors to be on food stamps(salary exceeding the grant)
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  5084.  @Mongoose-ct6us  my replies are gone
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  5085. ​ @luk2k3 you're cruel.
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  5086. Without welfare. Add that to the list.
    2
  5087. Because politicians want poverty
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  5088. Would you date a man who was poor?
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  5089. @themightykabool  it's fucked up but yes. Minimum wage debate gets me passionate because poverty is a policy choice.
    2
  5090. Because you and Farron cousins fail to realize something. Politicians are presented with a very simple choice: you can have worker solidarity exist or you can have poverty but you cannot have both. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our government treats as the risk they refuse to allow.
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  5091. ​ @fairywingsonroses that is inspiring but also scary
    2
  5092.  @zachs652  correct
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  5093.  @simpan500  100%
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  5094. ​ @Kefka2010  you literally are arguing for free college: you make more money if you do more schooling. Help poor people get an education, and they'll make more money and climb out of poverty. Student loans don't have to exist, their existence reflects a political failure, a lack of will, not insufficient resources.
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  5095. Isn't that how business owners think, though? Pay themselves more and pay everyone else less?
    2
  5096. You can't buy intimacy.
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  5097. I've escaped my incel mindset.
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  5098. ​ @PurringBluzzmuffin what is a loser?
    2
  5099. Leon cooperman?
    2
  5100. It's like they only want to pass things too little too late. 15 trillion for the financial sector but crumbs for regular people.
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  5101. Poor people can't afford to run for office
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  5102. A job does not reflect a person's intelligence or work ethic. I understood astrophysics while working as a cashier at McDonald's. Stop demeaning poor people.
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  5103.  @algorhythmic3904  ok. Would you be upset if shelf stocker and executive made the same?
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  5104. Wow. That's painful
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  5105.  @paddleduck5328  37k? Do colleges think everyone has millionaire parents?
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  5106.  @scottgrindrod  yep
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  5107. That's messed up
    2
  5108. I'd dismantle any and all billionaire companies(in profits not sales)
    2
  5109.  @cindygr8ce  that's messed up
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  5110. Correct
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  5111.  @marcellrosamonda7785  that's amazing! YouTube has permanently messed up my notifications so I'm late responding
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  5112.  @freeluigi4444  child support isn't debt, thank you.
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  5113. @tjstarr2960  Let's say corporations adopted higher profit sharing for workers, Let's say salaries for lower end workers were a percentage of the profits, And workers starting making six figures- from cashiers to plumbers- how would you feel?
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  5114.  @tjstarr2960  6. Beautiful man. You're just as pro-labor as me.
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  5115.  @juniorgod321  your definition is wrong. It's OUR labor and OUR tax dollars that rich people STEAL.
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  5116. They're cherry-picking data because they don't want to say the quiet part out loud: that ending poverty would give workers the power to reject dead-end job offers and contest the power of corporations. If we truly had robust welfare programs that poor people like myself desire, no one would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with 0 benefits or chance for advancement.
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  5117. And many people such as myself work part-time for various reasons: I'm in college, l was taking care of sick family members, and because I'd get benefits at 40.
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  5118. Me neither
    2
  5119. I want to lose my virginity.
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  5120.  @oklol7799  corporations exploit legal immigrants too
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  5121.  @blooflazh7  I'll change. I have to in order to avoid staying miserable. The only thing constant in life is change.
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  5122.  @blooflazh7  will do. I'll cancel all my subscriptions and stop watching incel videos.
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  5123.  @karlabritfeld7104  I'm not rich. I can't afford to move.
    2
  5124.  @user-gz4ve8mw9l  I also love how Europeans tell Americans "just move" as if all 330 million of us should just disband USA and give up.
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  5125.  @BradWhite25  okay then.
    2
  5126.  @BradWhite25  I'll figure out how to have a marketplace insurance, a car, and roommates.
    2
  5127.  @BradWhite25  I'm trying to go to community college and transfer to university and get a bachelor's degree in physics.
    2
  5128.  @BradWhite25  I'm on Medicaid now. Private health insurance is $315/month. Not including dental or vision. My mom is deceased and my dad refuses to get himself health insurance. So I'm on my own. I take the risk of getting a job to get off of Medicaid. If it fails, I can at least say I tried. I've been gifted a car!
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  5129. I swear Ana's voice cracked when she said "far too expensive for me. "
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  5130. They won't interview poor people
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  5131. Yep.
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  5132.  @michelleespino9814  I'm sorry to hear that
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  5133.  @aob7808  I hope so too with a scholarship.
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  5134.  @aliammar5031  I don't vote because neither party has passed universal healthcare nor livable wages.
    2
  5135.  @sourpatchkiiddoo1582  exactly
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  5136.  @rochester212  hello. I agree no country is a utopia, but at least with those two things (healthcare and college) my mom would still be alive and my life would be on track.
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  5137.  @mensrea1251  thank you. They are. I'm winning scholarships here and there. I'm being helped by my dad
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  5138.  @mensrea1251  thanks. I won't give up.
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  5139. @Matt Clayton  Because politicians treat worker solidarity, not poverty, as the risk they refuse to allow.
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  5140. Communism is fear mongering to cover up the fact capitalism requires poverty in order to exist.
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  5141. A living wage minimum wage, Ubi that scales allowing poor people to rise to the middle class. And taxing corporations five times the amount their employees used in welfare.
    2
  5142.  @tacocanada1888  lol mate this OP should be put on a t-shirt because it is golden. Your comment is too.
    2
  5143. No incel women
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  5144. I'm incel virgin at 29
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  5145. That's messed up.
    2
  5146. What about the defense department? Wall Street? Big pharma?
    2
  5147. Yeah that's why I'm a virgin. I'm incel.
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  5148.  @youtubesucks898  that's what he's saying.
    2
  5149. Exactly
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  5150. The fallacy of relative privation at its finest
    2
  5151. He's a rich elitist
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  5152. You are correct. Poverty exists to force poor people into working for slave wages.
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  5153. @cariwaldick4898  community colleges don't offer financial aid for living expenses, 4 year schools don't unless you pursue a degree full-time, my cashier job paid me $10.50/hr, only 28 hours a week(so no benefits), no career advancement, and pitiful tuition reimbursement ($2,500 wouldn't cover the cost of a single class).
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  5154. @cariwaldick4898  and last but not least health insurance- rich people can afford healthcare out of pocket, poor people get it through medicaid. OR, if you're me, you're poor but "able-bodied," so you don't qualify. And being enrolled in higher education disqualifies me from receiving food stamps. I had private health insurance. Unfortunately, private companies don't have to ensure patients who lack the ability to pay and are too expensive to care for. And medicaid refused my mom's treatments. And working minimum wage doesn't pay enough to pay for round the clock.medical care.
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  5155. ​ @cariwaldick4898 exactly. I cry for experiencing the pain of poverty.
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  5156. The government is supposed to take care of the people.
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  5157. She opposes policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. Helping the poor become middle class or rich is like rewarding failure in her eyes, and that is anathema to them.
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  5158. ​ @crabring so expect poor people to go through all those hoops and still take a decade to finish school, while rich people have to do no such thing? Sounds like freedom to me!
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  5159. I refuse to do that to cure my inceldom because it means I'm a loser.
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  5160. ​ @skbwolverine yes. Corporations want cheap labor.
    2
  5161. Yep.
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  5162. They could pay their workers around $100,000/per year.
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  5163. Greed is only good when it's business owners or rich people, right? Such a double standard.
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  5164. Yes. You are CORRECT.
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  5165. they do report on it all the time. But because Fox News is conservative, it prioritizes business profits over workers. To fox pundits, it's the businesses whose suffering is more important than the workers who can't survive.
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  5166. He's proud of low wages
    2
  5167. Yep.
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  5168. I call it being "other wallet warrior." Many people get angry at other people getting something for free that they themselves had to work for. They believe that it's wrong for poor people to get health care for free when they themselves have to pay for health insurance.
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  5169. This leads to a deeper belief that they believe poor people do not work hard enough to earn government assistance.
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  5170. I hope you see my replies
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  5171. Yep.
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  5172. Yep.
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  5173. Because you believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money
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  5174. Unfortunately that isn't feasible. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. Rich people can't be rich unless others are poor by comparison.
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  5175.  @billcollins6894  I could get out of poverty while attending school?
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  5176. People wear rose-colored glasses.
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  5177. Yep
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  5178. Healthcare is scarce so it can't be a right.
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  5179. ​ @NorrisFoxx That's messed up
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  5180. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  5181.  @Darron_Matsumoto  basically it's an essay that outlines that poverty persists because of 13 reasons. The first is poverty ensures minimum wage jobs get done. Poor people don't work these jobs with robust welfare or access to education.
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  5182.  @Darron_Matsumoto  thanks for subscribing. I'll be making politics videos soon. I'm no jon Oliver, but I believe my opinion is valid.
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  5183. Because politicians don't want to end poverty
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  5184. The department of education does have the authority.
    2
  5185. Porn isn't having sex with someone else.
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  5186. He knows this. But making 10 million a year means he doesn't care.
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  5187. Hahaha.
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  5188. Not even $100 million.
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  5189. I agree.
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  5190. Yes
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  5191. Yes
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  5192. Exactly.
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  5193. People who make 400k deciding for the poor that 15 an hour is too much.
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  5194.  @julesdalli9716  our political values and choices are most clearly revealed by the boundaries we set—particularly by the risks we're unwilling to take. In other words, the issues or changes we avoid, the policies we oppose, or the groups we’re hesitant to support may say as much, or even more, about our beliefs than the stances we openly advocate. For example, if a society resists risk-taking on issues like climate action due to economic concerns, that may reveal a deeper priority for immediate economic stability over long-term environmental sustainability. Similarly, if people reject policies aimed at wealth redistribution, it could reflect a preference for individual economic freedom over collective welfare. By examining the "risks we refuse to accept," we can better understand what values, fears, and priorities truly drive our politics. It’s often in these areas of resistance where the core truths about political beliefs and societal values come to light.
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  5195. He'd cry.
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  5196. Correct.
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  5197. Correct.
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  5198. Because poor people can't afford to run for office
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  5199. Yep.
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  5200. Not to Republicans
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  5201. There are 20 million college students and 1.7 million scholarships. Most college students do not and cannot win scholarships.
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  5202. Get more skills. As if there are millions of white-collar jobs available for people to land into. And even if there were colleges are unaffordable if you work minimum wage.
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  5203. It's not called forcing It's called counteracting monopsony Power.
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  5204. Disgusting.
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  5205. Yep
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  5206.  @Nutrollio  conservatives oppose welfare for poor people. People are on welfare because they make too little from their jobs. Conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage because poor people work "unworthy" jobs. Conservatives also oppose free college even though it would help the poor get better jobs, meaning less people on welfare.
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  5207.  @anmolt3840051  yes.. I'm glad you see why conservatives make me angry.
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  5208. Dang.
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  5209. I'm in USA and I have terrible health insurance
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  5210.  @shadowmixx  thank you
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  5211.  @shadowmixx  stay safe.
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  5212. I hope you're okay.
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  5213. I'm on medicaid, but because it isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I can't use it to see most doctors
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  5214. You're correct. But Robert reich isn't seeing 2 problems 1. Ideology : Politicians oppose policies that reduce poverty and create a middle class. 2. Scarcity: Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  5215. I don't get it.
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  5216.  @rv706  I don't get it.
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  5217.  @Centhar  I don't get the joke.
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  5218.  @Centhar  dang I gotta see it.
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  5219. Poor People don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. The income grant of UBI pays more than minimum wage jobs, and without work requirements. Thus, poor people won't work them unless minimum wage increases to exceed welfare compensation.
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  5220. 1. i can't afford it 2. even if i could afford it, you can't buy intimacy.
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  5221. Correct.
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  5222.  @Johnboy33545  Thank you.
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  5223. ​ @Jabari-q4d won't work long-term
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  5224. Yep.
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  5225. ​ @traviswebb3532 yep
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  5226.  @davidthehudson  that's the point.
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  5227.  @MrRjsnowden  blame corporations for wanting degrees for many high paying jobs.
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  5228.  @sethstor  not how it works. And students don't control tuition prices.
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  5229. Frank grimes. The cult of work
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  5230. That's the point, to force poor people into low wage jobs
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  5231.  @ASGelly  he's too rich to care.
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  5232. In 2021 I was a NEET. 2022 I returned to college part time, 2023 I did college and work and an internship. Now I'm a NEET again, I also have no driver's license or car.
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  5233.  @j.d.s.8132  yes. I'm trying to improve.
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  5234.  @j.d.s.8132  i suspect it was/is because i'm poor. I had/have no driver's license or car or money to take care of myself, and because I'm able-bodied, i can't receive welfare because of it. I am NOT trying to get into politics much but in NC, able bodied is being past 25 years of age and having no kids or disabilities-meaning i cannot receive any low income assistance no matter how low-income I am.
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  5235. Because politicians don't want to end poverty.
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  5236.  @MeowMeow0934  debt isn't always possible to repay. Wanting a better life should noy come with admonishment.
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  5237. Republicans see disabled people as a burden as well.
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  5238.  @Gikarin.Gamemaster  Right. There'd still be millionaires, just not billionaires.
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  5239.  @Gikarin.Gamemaster  Billionaires also get rich off of government welfare but conservatives never want to mention that.
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  5240. You give the rich more money to get them to work harder and you give the poor less to achieve the same thing(conservative logic).
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  5241. Corporations want control over workers. Corporations feel entitled to unlimited money.
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  5242. So why would trump do this?
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  5243. Even I'm not that desperate to lose my virginity and I'm 28
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  5244. I want to lose my virginity, but using a hooker is impossible because I'm poor and impractical because it's unfulfilling.
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  5245. I want to lose my virginity. I'm 28.
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  5246. Restaurants are too used to paying poverty wages.
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  5247. If you included that, then 80% of the country is poor.
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  5248. That's messed up.
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  5249.  @whyamimrpink78  Congress caved on raising minimum wage many times. And providing permanent housing for the homeless.
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  5250.  @brian2440  so the bottom line is yes...people can get paid more and receive healthcare. It's political choices and policies, not impersonal market forces, that have caused poverty wages to explode in number, to exist at all.
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  5251.  @sdfried4877  lol exactly
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  5252. My mom died in sickness and poverty because Medicaid was inefficient and other welfare programs in order to survive.
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  5253.  @emort6  stop asking loaded questions. You don't need to be a business owner to know $7.25/hr can't afford a 2 bedroom apartment anywhere in the country. You don't need to be a business owner to know a $0.50 raise isn't enough to live on. Business owners would not work for the wages they're offering.
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  5254. In other words: the things brought about during this pandemic would happen, only magnified: inflation, unemployment, businesses closing, automation. These are all real risks associated with workers having more bargaining power. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that you find unacceptable. If we have to cut 3 million jobs, 4 million, 10, so the remaining jobs pay a living wage, then so be it. Also, you could strip corporations of their subsidies and give it to small businesses to ease the adjustment to higher pay. Not to mention raising the pay for low wage workers would greatly save on the amount of government spending on welfare.
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  5255. ​ @jaythephoenix  damn what pay were they offering? $10/hr?
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  5256.  @jaythephoenix  a McDonald's I visited offered $8.50/hr.
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  5257. Yep
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  5258. It's about lack of empathy.
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  5259. exactly.
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  5260.  @itry2brational  being a cashier gives you no skills, that's like expecting a traffic cop to be a SWAT officer.
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  5261. Inflation happens regardless of what the minimum wage is.
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  5262. I loved it
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  5263. @metamorphicorder  it's okay. I underwent a lot of change.
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  5264. I used to be an incel for a very long time, but I eventually hit rock bottom in my life and I confronted my real reason for being an incel: I was lazy and unwilling to grow up. In 2021, I was a NEET. In 2022, I returned to community college to try and finish the degree I started so long ago at 18(I am 28 now). In that span of time(2022 to present), I managed to complete 2 internships, hold down a job as a cashier, do volunteer physics research, complete a screenwriting class, win a screenwriting competition, attend a science conference, and complete a course as a student of a 4 year university. Although, I still lack skills(degree. Career. Training certification) and independence (driver's license. Car. And house). I'm also poor/socially isolated. And yes, I'm still a virgin. And an HHKV*hold less. Hug less. Kiss less. Virgin. And I've never dated. I've never asked a girl out on a date.
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  5265. I've never hugged, held hands, kissed, had sex, or dated. I'm 29 now.
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  5266. Money does that to people
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  5267. You should be upset at Making only 40k a year...the government opposes increasing minimum wage.
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  5268.  @calicali7767  it IS the government's job, lol. Unless you stupidly believe workers can bargain individually against corporations: news flash, they Can't. Otherwise, the working poor would not exist. Student loans exist because society collectively doesn't make college affordable. Other colleges? Really? What universities charge $325 out if state tuition a year? 0. If college was affordable there'd be no outstanding loan balance. You refuse to acknowledge that society is inherently broken.
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  5269. these rich people believe the lie of equivalent exchange. that hard work pays off. wrong, people work because they believe it will pay but equal effort does not always mean equal gain.
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  5270. EXACTLY.
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  5271. I'm on Medicaid while In community college. Because minimum wage jobs and internships don't pay enough to survive.
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  5272. ​@5353Jumper he isn't saying the quiet part out loud. Inflation is a real risk associated with workers gaining more bargaining power. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  5273.  @mak88119  then you want poverty.
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  5274.  @mak88119  no one wants poverty. Poverty is not due to lack of ambition.
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  5275.  @radfaraf  exactly
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  5276. ​ @nogodsnomanagers not too high
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  5277. Wow
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  5278.  @fhattest2301  that the risks we are unwilling to take shows us our priorities. If it is more important to avoid the risk of inflation than raise the minimum wage what we're really saying is poverty is acceptable.
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  5279.  @samsadowitz1724  wow...
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  5280.  @samsadowitz1724  correct. Poverty is a policy choice.
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  5281.  @samsadowitz1724  conservatives call them "entry-level" jobs when they are NO. SUCH. THING.
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  5282.  @samsadowitz1724  places like Chic Fil A make enough to pay their cashiers $100,000 a year.
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  5283. ​@samsadowitz1724 so he is moving the goal post? Tell him you shouldn't need a roommate to afford rent. If you work one job, you should make enough to afford housing on your own.
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  5284. Exactly.
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  5285. Correct
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  5286. It's by design
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  5287.  @BillBarr4President  29. There aren't enough skilled positions for everyone.
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  5288. Not relevant
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  5289.  @ryanadams0922  exactly
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  5290. But gives poor people bargaining power
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  5291.  @redspice3230  parents are taxpayers too?
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  5292. @Lord_Bibulous  he used the term handout. When people use that term referring to a government aid for poor people. Let them be because. What they're really saying is that they believe poor people don't deserve the help.
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  5293.  @macbeth642  exactly. It's About priorities.
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  5294.  @jayroman1978  we don't have a middle class anymore. We have only rich and poor.
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  5295. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  5296. You can't, and she knows it but doesn't care.
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  5297. Wow
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  5298. They hate the poor
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  5299. Exactly.
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  5300. That's like expecting unemployed people to just pay someone else to pretend to be their boss.
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  5301. $95 billion in aid but ending homelessness or making college free is unacceptable.
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  5302. He just hates the poor.
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  5303. Exactly
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  5304. It's about priorities.
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  5305.  @Ashs-kitchen  good. Never come here.
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  5306. @binarystar300  corporations outsource for the same reason.... There is more than one way to express greed.
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  5307. Same here.
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  5308. That's evil​ @applecatnyango 
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  5309. When money is spent to help businesses or the rich it's an investment. but when money is spent to help the poor it's an entitlement.
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  5310. When money is spent to help businesses or the rich, it's an investment. but when money is spent to help the poor, it's an entitlement.
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  5311.  @muqeo  thanks
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  5312.  @muqeo  I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom.
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  5313.  @pj6100  that's awful
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  5314.  @muqeo  I hope so too
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  5315. My insurance premium went from $50 to $436 when medicaid was expanded, forcing me onto medicaid that most doctors don't take and have long wait times.
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  5316. I agree.
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  5317. If everyone is a business owner who's going to do the non-managerial work?
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  5318. Exactly.
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  5319.  @urbanmasque  they're trolling.
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  5320.  @semajsivraj  wow.
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  5321. ​ @TheHuxleyAgnostic Exactly.
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  5322. They believe they are rewarding failure.
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  5323. What?
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  5324. Blame corporations for wanting slave labor.
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  5325.  @JT-wc7me  no gay man or straight woman can be incel. Only straight men can be incel.
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  5326. @JT-wc7me  you're right. I didn't want to accept the fact that I have to put in the work. If I keep doing nothing, then nothing will change. I have to start here and now to change.
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  5327.  @JT-wc7me  I cried reading that.
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  5328.  @JT-wc7me  I'll get to it!
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  5329. @JT-wc7me  LOL I read the standards one. I worked minimum wage and I was only approaching literal supermodels, actresses, and porn stars. I wasn't approaching women on my level. Then I got mad when they rejected me.
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  5330. @JT-wc7me  beautiful to hear. I'm going to buy Versace Cologne, work on getting a part time job as reporter Once I get a job. I'll focus on getting a driver's license. Then car. My main focus is to finish community college. I return in the Fall. Until then, I'm going to be applying to scholarships and doing pre calculus lab problems.
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  5331.  @JT-wc7me  do you think I should be independent at 28?
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  5332. ​ @imhopelesslyaddictedtofent4266 not everyone can do that
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  5333. When I went to higher education I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country.
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  5334. I love how the rich received trillions in one week but giving working Americans less than FOUR GRAND is TOO MUCH.
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  5335.  @cassady7169  what? You know it was difficult for women to get the right to vote, right? That didn't make their demands unreasonable.
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  5336. Because they treat rising worker power as a policy disaster, not relief. They use the whip of poverty, not higher salaries, to keep workers in place.
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  5337. A living wage is not like the weather, something you observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed all workers deserved a living wage, like we believed women deserve voting, our society would be structured around that simple fact. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal market forces, that have allowed poverty wages to profilerate, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature of gravity.
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  5338. You're correct, nothing.
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  5339. ​ @THATBOISHAD exactly
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  5340. You can't pay for college working minimum wage
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  5341. I have no house I want to get laid
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  5342. Conservatives oppose it due to ideology, not economics. Conservatives are willing to pay more for something as long as they get to see people they don't like to suffer.
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  5343. Ok
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  5344. I'm an incel. At 28 I've never kissed, dated, held hands or had sex. I'm unhappy every day. I won't use a prostitute because the affection isn't genuine.
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  5345. $2 trillion
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  5346. I'm incel but none of those 3 things
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  5347. That's the fallacy of relative privation
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  5348.  @williamking7800  I agree.
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  5349. @LC because what you aren't understanding is conservatives WANT what happened to my mother to happen to every other poor mother out there. Because conservatives believe poverty is a "moral failing." And the poor shouldn't have dreams or aspirations.
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  5350. I cried reading this.
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  5351. The point is to perpetuate poverty.
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  5352. Correct.
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  5353. He'd hate me.
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  5354. I read your comment twice and it hurt my feelings. I'm a virgin at 29 and I've blamed women for so long. I've realized I need to grow up. Women don't owe me sex.
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  5355. Because politicians want poverty to exist
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  5356. Wow.
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  5357.  @bobbun4369  how do you determine a job's production value?
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  5358. Legalizing prostitution will not cure me of being incel. 1. A hooker doesn't like me 2. Most men get sex for free
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  5359. I set my tinder profile to 18-60 age limit and still get no matches.
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  5360.  @Doc110-fwg  you can't force people to only obtain certain degrees
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  5361.  @AnnoyedAF  you're missing the point.
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  5362.  @Antonio-69-420  exactly.
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  5363.  @Antonio-69-420  it's excuses people make to cover up the fact they believe rich people deserve welfare but poor people don't
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  5364.  @Antonio-69-420  because people don't want to help the poor but admit they can't abandon them either.
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  5365. the rich believe in survivorship bias to justify them becoming successful and others failing.
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  5366. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  5367. It's like everyone is a millionaire in his head.
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  5368. ​ @thehoboman not everyone can do that.
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  5369.  @sentientfetus3894  what are you even saying?
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  5370. Exactly
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  5371.  @09daniscool  I believe so too.
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  5372. @blipco5  I know. I am at the bottom of society as a cashier. Fast food and retail pay people like myself minimum wage, offer 0 benefits, and no chance for career advancement. My company's tuition reimbursement program is $2500 a year. So I'd have to work here 16 years to pay for a 4 year degree.
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  5373. Keep up the good work
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  5374. Dissolve the corporations, break up the monopolies via stronger anti trust laws, weaken intellectual property laws. And if corporate officers get convicted, they'll be forcefully confiscated of all of their wealth and forced to work as a $7.25/hr worker for the rest of their lives.
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  5375. I know women are as capable as men. I'm sad I'm a virgin at 28.
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  5376.  @CareyBilley  wow. I guess sex isn't perfect and will not make my life perfect.
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  5377. That's crazy depressing. I'm trying to get a car as a poor person but am realizing I can't afford a car working a minimum wage job.... Public transit sucks.
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  5378. It's about priorities. Politicians don't prioritize ending poverty
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  5379. There was none.
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  5380. Wow, I didn't know that.
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  5381. One kid died from a tooth ache.
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  5382. ​ @SuzieSkinner yes it is
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  5383. Except that won't happen because corporations want workers desperate.
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  5384. I'm a incel male. And a virgin
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  5385. My life is over at thirty if I'm still a virgin then
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  5386. I feel like I've been lazy and make excuses. Women won't come to me.
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  5387. Gotta have wage slaves.
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  5388. yay
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  5389.  @lizard944  I got a full tuition scholarship since then.
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  5390.  @lizard944  I feel bad both for the poor and middle class
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  5391.  @lizard944  thanks. I hate YouTube filters
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  5392.  @lizard944  thank you!
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  5393.  @AnieD1013  okay I understand. I was just curious about your opinion. Also, I'm a virgin (at 29). I watch videos like this and think to myself I'm abnormal. On one hand, I want to have sex, but I know sex with an escort or woman like this isn't real affection. But I also know the longer I remain a virgin the weirder I become anyway.
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  5394. You're right. As an incel myself, I've had the opportunity to have sex before but I was too scared. Now I'm poor and isolated. I'm correcting that in order to lose my virginity
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  5395.  @mayalunics4740  thank you I will.
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  5396. I'm going to watch it.
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  5397. Read Herbert gans functions of Poverty.
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  5398. ​ @5kids1goldfish I hate it
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  5399.  @5kids1goldfish  me neither.
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  5400.  @ashamed2Byt  idk
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  5401. When I went to community college 10 years ago I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country.
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  5402. What are you supposed to do to make enough money to do that? work for nasa?
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  5403.  @joemama-cf7sj  right. But them making $15/hr is a travesty.
    2
  5404. Blame corporations.
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  5405. Rich people believing in the myth of meritocracy.
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  5406.  @vishalkeerthi101  if there was higher profit sharing from the get go they'd make $30-$40 per hour.
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  5407.  @pgai824  there's no up to move up to. I have to find something better.
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  5408. @P Gai82  yes. I'm working on finishing my degree. I desire to be a physicist more than anything else. And I've desired to be a science journalist too.
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  5409.  @Gooddaylasvegas365  if a job is demanded to exist, whether it be a Walmart greeter or Starbucks barista, that person should not live in poverty.
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  5410.  @Gooddaylasvegas365  well, I can leave. I've won some scholarships while attending college.
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  5411. I make $10/hr. Have no Healthcare. No affordable college. No cheap housing. No inexpensive transportation.
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  5412.  @waltergrace565  yep... I don't want to be a billionaire, just own a home, 2 cars, be able to travel/have fun.
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  5413. They want lower class people to work the jobs.
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  5414. I'm a virgin
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  5415. Even fast food joints and supermarkets?
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  5416. An Ohio pizza shop owner split the store's sales evenly with his workers for one day. Each employee made $78/hr.
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  5417. Crowder acts like poverty doesn't exist.
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  5418. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  5419.  @infjintegrityvsnarcissism7295  that worse.
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  5420.  @dafttool  my replies are gone
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  5421.  @dafttool  I get mad typing so much only for it to be deleted.
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  5422.  @dafttool  my replies are gone again. Ffs.
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  5423.  @joeblow-k1v  my replies are gone. Frustrating.
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  5424. Let me explain to you what you and Kyle are not understanding. Conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors demanded $15 an hour the same conservatives would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage then. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status. It's not an economics issue to them, it's a moral one. In their eyes some workers are simply undeserving of being paid enough to live.
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  5425.  @MichaelDerryGameitect  This is going to be a very long rant but I hope you read it all. That's just-world fallacy IMO. "Move up or move on." Anyone who says that either cannot do math or they don't understand corporate structure. As you move up the career ladder less and less jobs become available. Unless you were to create millions of corporate executive jobs the idea that everyone can become rich if they simply tried hard enough falls apart. I'm a cashier at a supermarket, and Fox News likes to tell me "just become manager or store manager." But there are not managerial positions for everyone to move up to. Most of us are stuck in this low-wage job. I'm not saying pay everyone the same but I think it's ridiculous to expect only managers to make enough to support a family. No, start everyone out with everyone everywhere making enough to support a family, none of this "job loyalty/moving up" nonsense. As an example, imagine I told every cop in my city to just all be promoted to police chief at once. They can't all do that, not only can most cops not be promoted to police chief, most of them can't be promoted at all. Most of them will be stuck right where they're at. So it's false if I tell them to just keep at it that they all will eventually get there. Also I realize something about poverty (bear with me here, I hope you're still reading this). 1. We gave women the right to vote, we changed for them because we decided that them not being able to vote was wrong. 2. If we truly cared about ending poverty, we would pay whatever costs in fighting against their poverty. We do this for women, but we accept all of the changes that society has done for and by women because we have a fundamental belief that women deserve autonomy. 3. We do not wish to pay the costs for ending poverty. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty. 4. I am outright saying that it is very easy to end poverty, just as easy as it is to give women the right to vote. Why? 5. Voting laws are not like the weather: something you observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believe women deserve voting we would ensure that they have it. That's it, our society would be structured around that simple fact. A living wage minimum wage is the same way: it's not like the weather: something you observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed every worker deserved a living wage, every worker would have it, that's it. We would structure our society around that simple fact. Poverty is like women's suffrage: a policy choice, not a universal of nature like gravity.
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  5426. The real reason republicans oppose a living wage minimum wage is because of morals. They believe minimum wage workers don't deserve to make all that money. A Republican's moral code says it's unethical to pay minimum wage workers more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors wanted to make $15. An hour, the same conservatives that oppose a $15 an hour minimum wage now would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage then. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with the expense and everything to do with status.
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  5427. You're right
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  5428. Exactly.
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  5429. Yes
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  5430. LOL I laughed reading this.
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  5431. Corporations support illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who can't afford to argue and who will very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  5432. You can tie the both together
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  5433. Yep
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  5434. Correct.
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  5435. Wtf
    2
  5436. ​ @skylinefever exactly
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  5437. Healthcare isn't a right.
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  5438.  @bloodrainicorn6193  I should've added context and said that's what heartless conservatives believe. I not only believe healthcare is a right, I support FDRs proposed second bill of rights. Right to: Healthcare Education Comfortable home. Employment Protection against unemployment, disease, sickness
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  5439.  @lachousalle31  thanks.
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  5440.  @BrookeKnits  because the poor don't get alot of money?
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  5441.  @justsomeguy6336  healthcare is a right
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  5442.  @justsomeguy6336  in order to help others, alleviate suffering, ensure the poor get decent medical care.
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  5443.  @justsomeguy6336  because asking how you're going to pay for it is the wrong question
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  5444. Escorts don't offer genuine affection.
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  5445. Except low skill jobs in the past paid decent wages. They were replaced by service sector jobs.
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  5446. And usa doesn't have free college.
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  5447. Not everyone can start a business ......
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  5448.  @mrhpu0711  There is a "compromise and settlement" statute which gives the Department of Education the authority to Simply cancel or stop collecting on all of the loans it has given out: effectively erasing 1.5 of the 1.6 trillion-dollar student loan debt. That’s not to say there won’t be roadblocks. The scale of the debt forgiveness might require sign-off by the attorney general. If the debt is considered revenue to the federal government, the Office of Management and Budget would similarly have to approve a large, long-term loss. And finally, the next president would need to make sure that the debt forgiveness isn’t taxed, given that cancellation of debt is considered a form of earnings.
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  5449. To making college free:   The Higher Education Act, in addition to providing statutory authority to waive student loans, also provides the authority to waive legal requirements and regulations for “experimental sites” where the government tests ways to improve higher education. There’s no limit on the size of such a site. In other words, the secretary of education could designate a public university such an experimental site, thus providing for debt forgiveness. This "site" could be all public universities in the country.
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  5450.  @mrhpu0711  all of these policies could be implemented in a year, that doesn't mean they'll last forever though. Executive orders can be overturned in several different ways, and if Trump becomes president he'll most likely undo every single executive order biden has made.
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  5451. ​ @gorkyd7912 blame corporations for wanting cheap labor
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  5452.  @ComradeCatpurrnicus  I agree. I just wish people weren't greedy
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  5453.  @ComradeCatpurrnicus  I believe greed is about a lack of compassion.
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  5454.  @ComradeCatpurrnicus  I've noticed poor people tend to be more compassionate than rich people
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  5455.  @ComradeCatpurrnicus  I agree. You should read this free essay about poverty "Herbert gans functions of poverty."
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  5456.  @ComradeCatpurrnicus  I don't understand how rich people don't even try to hide their disdain for the poor, the very poor people who do the jobs rich people themselves won't do
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  5457. Yep.
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  5458. Meanwhile I'm in poverty with no way of escaping.
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  5459.  @Miranda3730  anger is at deservedness
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  5460. 22/hr is still a poverty wage.
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  5461. I'm in North Carolina and make 10.50 an hour as a cashier. Even if I made $22 an hour I would never be able to afford college or a house.
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  5462.  @Missunderstood103  yep
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  5463. It's because Republicans don't believe all workers deserve to be middle class.
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  5464. Epic
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  5465.  @mseka9148  I'd ask for $1 billion then start my own news media company. I want to be a journalist now but nobody besides the poor care about the poor.
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  5466. Exactly
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  5467. We're just like you.
    2
  5468.  @donaldthustra_2997  poverty is color blind.
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  5469. You said it correctly!
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  5470. I believe the constitution needs a new amendment: anyone working full-time deserves to not be in poverty, period.
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  5471. ​​ @xxagentxx1675 if women don't owe me sex then how do I lose my virginity?
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  5472. True. Also family members could give their congress people money.
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  5473. Same reason they cut unemployment benefits: so they could take away the power workers had to reject dead-end entry-level jobs.
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  5474. I never thought about it like that and that is very messed up.
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  5475.  @49neenee  then outlaw lobbying and ban politicians from making more than the minimum wage in their district.
    2
  5476. Why not say these things concerning CEO pay increases?
    2
  5477. ​ @underworldshinigami exactly
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  5478. That's over $10,000/hour.
    2
  5479. That was hurtful to read.
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  5480.  @WireHedd  yep.
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  5481. correct.
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  5482. No benefits either.
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  5483. They'd raise the minimum wage to $80/hr immediately.
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  5484. Yes.
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  5485. I wish you could bring compassion to USA.
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  5486.  @edbrewington3  yes. I hate when middle income people punch down the poor. I'm like....welfare and debt are both financial traps... We're all suffering for the same reason.
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  5487. I'll make a video on that.
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  5488. When you make $45 million a year, you're too detached from poverty.
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  5489. Yep.
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  5490. Because ubi empowers poor people to not work minimum wage jobs.
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  5491. I cried reading that.
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  5492. ​ @FUCKTHESYSTEM71 exactly
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  5493.  @c.w.k.n.5117  you're right. I need to walk and find something better. I'll never be handed a screenwriting or journalist job. I have to earn it.
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  5494. @C. W. K. N.  I'll look into becoming a science journalist and screenwriter.
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  5495.  @c.w.k.n.5117  epic. I guess what you're saying is, I can't expect the easy life of bagging groceries and making six figures.
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  5496. So this is a moral issue to you, you believe poor people don't deserve a living wage.
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  5497.  @brians7181  so a living wage is a moral issue to you, you do look down on poor people. "Burger flipper." So cashiers are worse than rapists now?
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  5498. ​ @brians7181  then you're more upset over not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage Automation, unemployment, and inflation bothers you more than the impoverishment of the workforce.
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  5499.  @hajarhajar8906  I'm a cashier and intern but I'm poor.
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  5500. I believe rape happens due to men wanting control, not sex.
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  5501.  @boeing757pilot  cruel world.
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  5502.  @boeing757pilot  I hope I win a full ride scholarship and get into university
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  5503. You're right
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  5504. A singularity would only form if only positive or negative energy densities were present. And the negative matter would have to line the throat of the Wormhole, its gravitational repulsion would counteract the gravitational attraction of ordinary matter preventing the positive energy from forming a black hole.
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  5505. And the amount of negative matter needed would be so enormous that you would need something that's as dense as cosmic strings.
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  5506. 13 is still a poverty wage. Government didn't pass tuition free college. And Someone has to work at Wendy's, whether they have the ability to get a better job or not. Asking them to "get better jobs" is unrealistic. What you're really saying is that these workers have no value.
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  5507.  @SG-js2qn  oh ok. I haven't been there....ever... Lol. McDonald's is cheaper.
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  5508. Holy crap
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  5509. That's messed up.
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  5510. I was blamed for theft and they tried to get me to sign agreeing that I stole the money, which would have made me a felon.
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  5511. Poverty and student loan debt are both policy choices.
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  5512. Corporations fund the government, so unless poor people could run for office, the corruption won't end.
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  5513. Disgusting.
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  5514.  @grmpEqweer  I don't believe you and even if I did that's even more messed up.
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  5515.  @gzcalloway  yes
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  5516. @Leo Bigelow  not comparable. I don't need to be a brain surgeon to understand cancer takes lives. I don't need to be a business owner to understand below cost of living wages and no affordable health insurance means many workers simply can't live on their own.
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  5517. @Leo Bigelow  in my state of NC, the $2,000 check I received equaled literally four months of minimum wage work at McDonald's at $8.50/hr. Why work for minimum wage at that point? Especially with 0 benefits?
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  5518.  @KM-nd6wj  to his comment or mine?
    2
  5519. Yep
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  5520. Not $400k..
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  5521. Unemployment is an acceptable risk.
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  5522. Congress makes the laws. There's a conflict of interest.
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  5523. ​ @David.C.Velasquez  exactly. They're their own boss.
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  5524. i'm a 29 year old virgin. I've never kissed or had sex. If i don't lose my virgnity by 30, then my life is over.
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  5525. The hard truth is I'm not willing to go to school anymore- I don't have straight As right now and won't anytime soon unless I escape poverty right now without anymore hardships. I've lost both my mom and 20s. And if I have to work at a supermarket again and get a crappy car, then I've lost both for nothing since that's a tacit admission I have to pick up from life where I left off at life 10 years ago. I have no food stamps, section 8 housing, Pell grants or scholarships. My financial aid appeal was denied, leaving me with needing 90 credits to get it back and shut out of federal work-study jobs. I can't work in person at community college anyway without a car. Even if I had an associate's degree today, if I was still poor with my track record, it would take me another 12 years to get a bachelor's degree.
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  5526.  @jadegreenleaf781  yes. Turkey Hill. But the country in general for shaming and ignoring poor people.
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  5527.  @Turkey_Hill  I want to develop skills and change things here in usa
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  5528. @Turkey_Hill  yes. Looks like I'd have to run for Congress to make a substantial change.
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  5529. @Turkey_Hill  I will have to rely on medicaid until I graduate school and get a job that offers health insurance. I can't to think of any part-time jobs I can do that would gross me $50k a year.
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  5530. @jadegreenleaf781  I will never understand poverty shaming.
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  5531. @Turkey_Hill  I can't change things as I'm poor and unskilled. If I was wealthy or skilled, I could.
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  5532.  @Turkey_Hill  I can't see my replies. I hope they weren't deleted.
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  5533. @Turkey_Hill  your border crisis point is the fallacy of relative privation.
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  5534.  @Turkey_Hill  ok well it looks like I can't see my replies. So I can't respond to you anymore.
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  5535.  @Turkey_Hill  I said welfare is restricted to ensure people are desperate enough to work low wage jobs. The government and rich oppose anything which EMPOWERS workers(Robust welfare, universal health care, free college) And supports anything which DISEMPOWERS workers(weak labor unions, illegal immigration/open borders, competitive labor markets).
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  5536. @jadegreenleaf781  exactly
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  5537. @Turkey_Hill  I'm not happy about receiving health insurance that's inefficient and humiliating by design. I don't understand why you want to shift blame from the rich to the poor
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  5538.  @clashwithwords  thank you for defending me. Poverty is not a choice. She was sick, poor, disabled, and now dead.
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  5539. @sima-m7w  yes. It's awful.
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  5540. Yep.
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  5541.  @OctEddie  it's a shame that despite this endless corporate greed, poor people are blamed for being on government assistance. I can't vote for a country where making $15/hr is unacceptable, but making billions of dollars in profits, causing bankrupty, exploiting immigrants is not.
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  5542. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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  5543. I go to school but I have no job.
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  5544. Yep.
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  5545. ​ @Boris80b  just-world fallacy
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  5546.  @wolfman515  wrong... There's an inequality of bargaining power. And most jobs pay shitty wages.
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  5547.  @JamesBrown-or8lx  nothing in life is free?
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  5548. I'm working on getting a degree
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  5549. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  5550.  @MarkLinton-ik1zt  I'm obsessed over losing my virginity but I'm not upset at him.
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  5551.  @MarkLinton-ik1zt  okay.
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  5552. @MarkLinton-ik1zt  I'm planning on getting a job, license, and car in 30 days. Hopefully that will help me meet women and get laid.
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  5553.  @MarkLinton-ik1zt  thanks. I've got until I'm 29.
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  5554. @MarkLinton-ik1zt  Thanks. When it happens I'll contact CNN LOL.
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  5555.  @goodtimepoke  I'll change. Life Is about choices. I have the power to change
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  5556.  @goodtimepoke  I'm glad you think I can change.
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  5557. Yep.
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  5558. Exactly.😊
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  5559. ​ @JohnA...  Yep.
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  5560. @TheJeffL_RealPhoto  wrong take away message but you do you.
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  5561. @dimedraweriv258  I shouldn't have to pick a different career just because I want to pursue teaching/college. The problem is the cost of living and college, not my dreams or aspirations.
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  5562. @dimedraweriv258  that is neither possible nor practical for everyone.
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  5563. @tiktokexposed898  that's magical thinking.
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  5564. I can't make 60k with a part time job.
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  5565.  @AK255.  ? You already financially support everyone else anyway.. Why do some people act like everything is free? If anything, you save money from a more educated populace because they make more money, pay more in taxes, and don't rely on welfare programs as much.
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  5566. It should be written in the constitution, that everyone is entitled to a living wage, healthcare, education, and benefits.
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  5567.  @KaleidoscopicPalindrome  Why is that funny?
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  5568. ​@pepperonis 140 million people are in poverty in america. There is nowhere near enough funding to help them all.
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  5569. ​@pepperonis Also you could end up with arkansas. Where the government gave all of the working poor just a big enough of a raise to where they no longer qualify for any public assistance, but still not enough to make up the difference.
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  5570. Yes
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  5571. College isn't free and factory jobs were eradicated and replaced with service sector jobs.
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  5572. He'd cry
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  5573. That's messed up.
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  5574. Yes. It's called the fallacy of relative privation.
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  5575. Good idea
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  5576.  @rudydominguez196  even better.
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  5577. @OlaphFlakers2344 and American consumers don't want to end poverty either because they enjoy having access to cheap and quick consumer goods.
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  5578. @OlaphFlakers2344 there is no solution, because it's about values. It's a problem with human nature. On a fundamental level, for example, women being denied voting is intolerable. Politicians believe poverty's existence is acceptable. Politicians treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  5579. @OlaphFlakers2344 poverty's existence is why workers are forced into dead-end jobs, it's why so many people are trapped on welfare or debt. It's why corporations fight tooth-and-nail to oppose raising the minimum wage, allowing unions, and loosening labor restrictions. No one in their right mind would ever work in fast-food or retail, for minimum wage, with 0 benefits OR chance for advancement, if they had better alternatives. It would be like expecting a doctor to be a cashier. No one who can make that type of money or has that skill set would accept the minimum wage job voluntarily. If you did have a medical degree you would literally have to force a doctor to go into a minimum wage job.
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  5580. Poverty is a policy choice. Just like crime and war are.
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  5581. Greed is terrible and a choice.
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  5582. Ok
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  5583. I want to get laid
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  5584.  @billwhitis9997  that's it?
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  5585. @Antonio-yg7io  I'll stay strong
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  5586. @claritey  that's the point. To ensure poor people can't be educated
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  5587. Yep
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  5588.  @snoozy04  that's still possible..for millionaires and billionaires.
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  5589. Since when do republicans care about facts?
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  5590. I agree.
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  5591.  @bruggeman672  thanks
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  5592. Both parties ignore the poor.
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  5593.  @pepperpower1652  yes
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  5594.  @Merica_dadgarage  yes What did you say
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  5595.  @Jeremyak  trump then?
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  5596.  @HereIsWisdom1318  how? She can't pass bills
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  5597. That's messed up.
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  5598. Politicians don't want to end welfare because they desire poverty wage workers.
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  5599.  @gracieallen8285  it's a bot. And demand creates jobs not the other way around.
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  5600. They only hate the poor.
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  5601.  @alfsalte9493  THANK YOU.
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  5602. Yep.
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  5603. I argue greed is a choice, which reveals something about our character.
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  5604. According to republicans, poor people don't work harder because they're too rich, and rich people don't work harder because they're too poor. Good old Calvinism.
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  5605. I'm not going to school this summer semester, but I return next fall. I'll be doing one next semester. My main goals are to(one at a time) Apply to scholarships Finish math lab manual Get a job as journalist or reporter
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  5606.  @typeviic1  30? Why do Republicans say fast food places are for teenagers then?
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  5607. Yep
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  5608. Yep
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  5609. I'm considering dropping out of community college because it's too expensive, even with financial aid.
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  5610. LOL is this guy serious? making 7.25 an hour you aren't paying off college debt..
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  5611. Except poor people like myself DO want a better system, it's the corporations that don't. Poverty ensures society's dirty work gets done: i.e. minimum wage jobs. When Republicans say welfare "destroys work incentive," what they really mean by this is that the incentive poor people have to do minimum wage jobs is destroyed when the wages earned therefrom are smaller than the income grant.
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  5612. I make $10 as a grocery store clerk. It costs more in gas to go to and from work than what I made. Paying for food costs more than what I make per hour. And I can't pay for college making even $30/hr.
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  5613. Presidents are disconnected from poverty. From the very suffering they claim they want to end.
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  5614. I'm not voting because politicians ignore poor people
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  5615.  @mariselamontes1553  you have misunderstood me. It isn't that I don't want people to be successful, it is that I want everyone to have a voice in society, not just the successful. Poor, immigrants, elderly, medical debt people, homeless, debt ridden college students, disabled, everyone has a stake in society but everyone does not have a voice.
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  5616. Can walmart afford higher wages now...
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  5617.  @monsterous289  I know it's slim margins... Unfortunately retail companies create "entry-level" jobs to keep costs low and its workers in poverty.
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  5618. Too bad corporations do NOT want to do this.
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  5619. Yep
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  5620. I don't vote at all.
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  5621. ​@beepboopbeep5456 ultimately, what is justice?
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  5622. ​ @catvisiontv855 exactly.
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  5623.  @countmein33  epic
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  5624. That woman said she made $95,000 in one month, Does she realize that 60% of american households don't even make that per year??
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  5625. ​ @sgvlogcasts  exactly
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  5626. it's called taking 75% of profits.
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  5627. That's the point. To republicans, billionaires and corporations have "earned" their success so they deserve money from the government. whereas poor people haven't succeeded so they don't deserve any help.
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  5628.  @laurabenevelli6783  I read that and cried. But you're right. It's about empathy. I believe rich people and conservatives have LESS empathy than poor people.
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  5629. Poverty does not persist due to lack of ambition. Doctors are not quitting because cashiers make more.
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  5630. You believe poor people don't deserve a living wage
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  5631. ​@Cari Waldick excellent!
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  5632. Poor people campaign estimates the number of people in poverty to be 43.3% of the population.
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  5633. Low pay/no benefits are a systemic problem not an individual one.
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  5634. That could never be implemented objectively.
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  5635.  @JoseMendozaPublications  yes. That's what I meant. Corporations want to pay people slave wages: it's why corporations hate welfare and universal healthcare but love poverty and illegal immigration(legal too really)
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  5636.  @JoseMendozaPublications  welfare empowers the poor to reject slave wages.
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  5637. Yep.
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  5638.  @burner9147  Exactly.
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  5639. I always compare poverty to women's suffrage. We as a society have the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, that it is a right that they are supposed to have, so we ensured that they have that right. That's it. Our Society is structured around that simple fact. Wages are not like the weather: Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed that no worker deserved to be poor then no worker then.....no worker would be poor. That's it. We would raise everyone's wages to an acceptable level and deal with the repercussions whatever they might be. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal economic forces, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  5640. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits THIS is why republicans hate welfare and unions.
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  5641.  @traditionaltools5080  the housing market is a paradox. If everyone had an affordable home already then the housing market would crash because no one would have any need to purchase new housing.
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  5642. That's more than what a McDonald's worker makes in a year...
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  5643. They believe people deserve to be poor.
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  5644. So it isn't just labor that's expensive? These corporate executives keep saying a $15 minimum wage is devastating.
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  5645. Exactly
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  5646.  @korterkaks  I got this. Thank you!
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  5647. It is within their power to abolish poverty, it isn't among their priorities.
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  5648. He didn't release his operating costs.
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  5649.  @emasbutt  well 2 things. One that was gross sales not profit. 2 you are correct food places have thin profit margins. However a. Operating costs tend to be the highest and also fixed B. If demand at the pizza place was high enough the owner could pay them a higher wage anyway.
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  5650. Now i do admit no way those workers could be paid $78/hr. But even half that is far higher than the $10-$11 these jobs normally pay. Also places like chic fil a and walmart release most of their costs. If chic fil a paid its workforce 40-50% of gross sales each worker would make around $100,000 a year. $4.6 million/yr per store/15-19 employees=over $90,000
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  5651.  @emasbutt  yeah. I should make a video on this: minimum wage/profit sharing. But i fundamentally understand i won't convince Republicans because they fundamentally do not believe pizza workers deserve $100k/yr. I have a theory that Republicans actually do enjoy poverty existing. They enjoy poverty because first of all they believe that America is a meritocracy, they believe everyone has a chance to become middle-class or Rich and if you end up poor it's your own fault. Thus helping the poor become rich is giving the poor something they did not earn. it would be like me receiving a medical degree just because I asked for it.
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  5652. Yes. I'm growing up.
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  5653. Messed up
    2
  5654. I made $10.50/hr.
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  5655. @rgn87654  because the real reason conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage is because their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  5656.  @Lynssss24  ah that sucks
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  5657. Lol.
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  5658. Too many poor people
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  5659. Ok
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  5660. I need to get a driver's license and car first. Then my own apartment.
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  5661. Most poor adults already work....as I do.
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  5662. Hahaha
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  5663.  @grayearly3116  I feel like rich people love poverty.
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  5664. That's heart breaking.
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  5665. Gotta feed into the lie of meritocracy.
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  5666. Exactly.
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  5667. Wow.
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  5668. Yes. Idk
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  5669. Omg I WAS THINKING OF THAT. PLUS I LOVE THAT SHOW!
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  5670.  @vietimports  most of which are entry-level and dead-end.
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  5671. Agreed!
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  5672. Or living expenses like healthcare
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  5673. Why does loan forgiveness for the rich and business leaders never get questioned like help for the poor does?
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  5674.  @Trace-l7k  college education Is expensive precisely to force poor people out of college.
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  5675. Wtf
    2
  5676. @Jim Bob  poverty is a policy choice.
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  5677.  @mr.sushi2221  gotcha.
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  5678. Ok
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  5679. They'd cry making $10.50/hr. I'd cry making $4 million a year.
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  5680.  @Keynote24  you don't understand. I DID appeal with the school. Three times. Once after I returned to school in 2020, then again when my mom was given six months left to live, then again after she passed away. My school denied my appeal all three times.
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  5681.  @Pipping-Hot  move? With what money?
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  5682.  @Pipping-Hot  sure. I'll leave when I'm poor and unskilled.
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  5683. They don't believe unskilled workers deserve decent pay.
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  5684. ​ @EternalAmmonite beautiful
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  5685. How is there not 80% homelessness everywhere?
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  5686.  @PerceivedREALITY999  I'll never forget how I was raised.
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  5687. I am not mentally or physically handicapped in any way But I have been called socially inept. I'm also not outgoing ​ @Jim-tv2tk 
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  5688. ​ @Jim-tv2tk okay
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  5689. Yep
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  5690. Why do you people not get upset over the rich getting more money when they're already rich, but get upset at the poor for having a slightly better life? Do you need someone to bully? Also. The reason college was cheaper was because it was subsidized by the government more. Make college free. So poor people can attend.
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  5691. "The real political problem for a guaranteed income isn’t the costs, but the benefits. A policy like this would give workers the power to make real choices. They could say no to a job they didn’t want, or quit one that exploited them. They could, and would, demand better wages, or take time off to attend school or simply to rest." - Ezra klein
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  5692. Yep.
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  5693. Reddit thread: what's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor? Getting government money.
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  5694. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    2
  5695. They're both criminals.
    2
  5696.  @victorjacques5201  Why go through all that work? Why not just simply hook up or have friends with benefits?
    2
  5697.  @taknak3791  you're right it isn't too late for me. If I wasn't a loser and socialized more I could probably get laid. All I've done is use tinder, fail, and then give up.
    2
  5698. My $17/he wage proposal was rejected. They paid me $10/hr instead. My "raise" was $0.50. As a cashier at a supermarket.
    2
  5699. If you taxed corporations 2x-5x the amount their employees used in welfare benefits things would change in a hurry.
    2
  5700. ​ @KarlFreeman-fe1nd  the point is corporations don't find poverty unacceptable and neither do you.
    2
  5701. What you aren't seeing is their true underlying belief: republicans believe poor women don't deserve to have children. They view poor mothers as undeserving of reproductive rights, thus they shouldn't have access to abortion. But once the child is born, the child shouldn't receive welfare either. The ultimate hatred over welfare isn't paying for healthcare or education itself, it's the insolence of the poor while act wrong while being supported by taxes. Wealthy people can have kids out of wedlock and not face government penalties, but the state tries to pressure the poor to be married and working so their kids won't need welfare (which obviously doesn't work)
    2
  5702.  @Mllowr  that...has nothing to do with anything. McDonald's workers feed people...that isn't some immoral or illegal act.
    2
  5703.  @Mllowr  so this is a moral issue to you: you believe poor people don't deserve to make a living wage. You think you have the right to tell them what they should make
    2
  5704. ​ @NeilTruick that's messed up
    2
  5705. I don't know either
    2
  5706. ​ @alexmendez3681 it's easier to blame people who can't fight back
    2
  5707. Yes it's messed up
    2
  5708.  @SPHYNX_9982  I also won't tell you how many people look down on minimum wage workers that I've met either.
    2
  5709.  @peternennig3408  thank you. That's even better and also a policy choice as well.
    2
  5710.  @balanc-joy9187  awesome!
    2
  5711.  @peternennig3408  and another thing implicit in that message is that employees don't have enough bargaining power. A janitor is in no position to demand an increase in pay, a doctor is. Albeit even a doctor is limited in how much he or she can demand to make. And even if you have skills like a doctor you still have to deal with the fact that you're going up against a multi-billion dollar corporation in a country that has eviscerated unions and workers rights.
    2
  5712.  @ccpj0eyb319  there are literally thousands and thousands and thousands of regulations. You can't just make a blanket statement that all regulations on all businesses are bad.
    2
  5713. He can also make all public college free.
    2
  5714. What do you choose?
    2
  5715.  @kc8644  100%
    2
  5716. Because rich people feel entitled to owning everything and paying nothing.
    2
  5717. i'm happy for you. The real political problem with welfare isn't the costs but the benefits. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    2
  5718.  @bourbonstansell8823  that was a splash of cold hard truth but you've helped me realize I can change and don't have to settle.
    2
  5719. I'm just sad I'm a virgin
    2
  5720. Because the healthcare debate is deeper than that. On some level, voting is considered a right, but healthcare isn't.
    2
  5721. When I was a cashier, a girl called him during my interview, she was in high school, working at a sandwich place, and asked to be paid $12/hr. He hung up the phone in her face. And said, " I'm not paying any cashier $12/hr. You haven't even graduated high school. He also rejected my $17/hr, paying me $10/hr instead, with a $0.50 raise.
    2
  5722. End student loan debt. Cap tuition prices. Free tuition.
    2
  5723.  @snoozy04  my congress hates the poor so much, it's why I don't vote.
    2
  5724.  @snoozy04  free college. Middle class wage. Medicare for all. End student loan debt. Cap tuition. Forgive auto loan debt. Maximum wage.
    2
  5725.  @TomboyGirl-n8r  I thought about it. You're right. I want to only be in healthy relationships. Which require work and sacrifice.
    2
  5726.  @TomboyGirl-n8r  thank you for your help. I don't feel so alone anymore
    2
  5727. You keep me passionate about politics.
    2
  5728.  @P.I.Joe33  ok
    2
  5729. Yep. I have a full tuition scholarship, yet I'm still in poverty and going to give up because I can't afford living expenses.
    2
  5730.  @labyrinth75  ok
    2
  5731. Yep
    2
  5732. ​ @keenanmartin7691  yep. Truthfully, I'm an incel loser but I'm trying to fix my life.
    2
  5733.  @SpiritGirlSF  what you aren't seeing is people like them want minimum wage workers in poverty.
    2
  5734.  @fixedG  yes...there is...it's called lack of better opportunities. Unless you seriously believe people enjoy poverty.
    2
  5735.  @rediscovering.liberty  if I do not work I do not make enough money to survive. If I do work I still don't make enough money to survive. So I work but I make so little I need government assistance. But the government assistance costs more than paying me a living wage. A job is useless if you can't survive off of it without government assistance.
    2
  5736. Biden could dismantle corporations on his own.
    2
  5737. That's messed up.
    2
  5738. What if the trillions that went to wall Street helped give a full ride for all poor people in usa?
    2
  5739. I'm making $10.50/hr as a cashier. I didn't know it was actually possible to make a billion dollars. Let alone $1.3. PER YEAR.
    2
  5740. Exactly. This story is survivorship bias. Even if he received all $10 million, that's crazy
    2
  5741. McDonald's is a real company, and you pay taxes on your wages. Minimum wage jobs are real jobs.
    2
  5742. Gutfeld knows, he just doesn't care.
    2
  5743. There needs to be higher wages, mandatory unions, and decent benefits
    2
  5744. $5 in the 1970s is $40 today.
    2
  5745. ​ @peterponcedeleon3368 not everyone can increase their skills. Not everyone can even work.
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  5746.  @peterponcedeleon3368  I'm poor/minimum wage worker myself, I'm attending community college, I'm relying on scholarships to get through school. I'm hoping I win grants to graduate school.
    2
  5747. What positive things are happening?
    2
  5748. $15 million would bankrupt most Americans. Why doesn't the News focus on the poor or put poor people in charge?
    2
  5749.  @Booofin  that's sad.
    2
  5750. These hacks oppose any policies that reduce poverty.
    2
  5751. Okay
    2
  5752. No
    2
  5753. ​ @andreirachko exactly.
    2
  5754. I got a $0.50 raise
    2
  5755. @tazmanian1033  thank you brother :)
    2
  5756. I got COVID and because I'm part-time I'm ineligible for paid sick leave. Now I'm behind on my bills.
    2
  5757. Then they pay baristas pennies....
    2
  5758. it'd be $28 an hour now accounting for inflation. if you take into account his college tuition, $900 per year, he was basically making $41 an hour.
    2
  5759. The problem is that politicians do NOT want poverty eliminated.
    2
  5760. Poor people like myself have no voice.
    2
  5761. I did the math. At $15/hr with overtime that would mean I would be making $89,000/yr as a cashier.... I'd get fired long before my boss would pay me that. My grocery store makes about $150,000 a week with 110 employees. At $89k per employee...... The salaries would be $9.7 million vs $7.8 million in sales.
    2
  5762. Same.
    2
  5763.  @maryhalverson5713  median home prices are 200k-500k. Many cars are 60k today. I don't know understand how people make $30,000 a year and get by.
    2
  5764. To show how "great" USA is, I would outlaw consumer debt. No one is allowed to take on loans to pay for Health Care, housing, food, clothing, or Transportation. If they can't pay for any of these things out of pocket they don't get it at all. You would see massive homelessness and death in this country. That right there shows me wages are very low.
    2
  5765. Exactly.
    2
  5766. Thank you.
    2
  5767. ​ @mattwong5403 exactly
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  5768. That's messed up.
    2
  5769. I'm a cashier and make $10.50/hr. If I wasn't dependent on my family I'd be dead.
    2
  5770.  @christopher6754  first off there's no way I can be expected to watch 1k+ videos of Secular Talk or go back in time and watch when they first uploaded. 2nd of all it's just world fallacy for the pundits. They fundamentally believe that people make what they "deserve" and thus if the poor complain about not making enough they just have to suck it up and work harder. Taking on multiple jobs is accepting society the way it is whereas raising the minimum wage is admitting that society is flawed and that individual effort alone can only get you so far. Tldr raising minimum wage makes society the problem but working multiple jobs makes individuals the problem.
    2
  5771.  @christopher6754  it's ok I'm sorry for not explaining my points Do you believe I'm correct?
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  5772.  @christopher6754  right. This mindset affects everything else. Conservatives: Cancel student loans? That's wrong because we're supposed to accept college being unaffordable in a country that makes 34% of the global income. Healthcare? Can't have universal health care because our current system is acceptable! Income inequality? Billionaires are all self made! It can't be patents or market concentration or anything else that contributes to their success! Homelessness? It can't be because homes are $450,000+ when 60% of Americans as a household make less than $75,000/yr! We've got to accept society as the way it is. No introspection or change necessary.
    2
  5773. I'm not hateful
    2
  5774. That's worse
    2
  5775. Except people believe poor people don't deserve to make a living wage
    2
  5776. Because poor people can't afford to run for office or donate to politicians.
    2
  5777. Yep. I'm incel.
    2
  5778. Yep
    2
  5779.  @SmallSpoonBrigade  correct
    2
  5780. ​ @woodsplitter3274 he hates poor people receiving help.
    2
  5781. Hypocrisy
    2
  5782. ​ @SocialTourist tax hikes are an acceptable risk
    2
  5783.  @tealkerberus748  I agree with you, I'm saying the capitalist class does not want this.
    2
  5784.  @cmdraftbrn  lolol.
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  5785.  @sorsocksfake  corporations want cheap labor, yet poor people are still blamed for wanting a living wage.
    2
  5786.  @jamilahrazzaq8780  I'm 30 and had to start over since my mom's passing.
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  5787.  @SeeJayPlayGames  that's poverty wages.
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  5788. Just-world fallacy and lack of empathy. The former implies that poverty is a moral failing and that helping the poor is rewarding failure. The latter is about conservatives not being able to relate to people in circumstances far different than their own.
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  5789. not everyone be promoted at once. Many people who want jobs can't find one. It's not the fault of the poor that corporations refuse to pay more for American labor.
    2
  5790. Or how about end poverty altogether.
    2
  5791. It needs to be written in the constitution, that all workers are entitled to a living wage.
    2
  5792. That can be made a crime.
    2
  5793. Yep. Exactly.
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  5794.  @Alex_Off-Beat  yep.
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  5795. That's messed up.
    2
  5796.  Fenwick Chick  I've changed since then. I only want acceptance. Like minded friends who share my hobbies and interests. And support my dreams
    2
  5797. @internetentertainmentmedia2451  times have changed. These jobs aren't held by only teens anymore.
    2
  5798. Only two people in this country don't need personal guns on them: the president and the vice president. I'll never understand why politicians have armed sex thinks guns are bad.
    2
  5799. I'm growing up but I don't want to be a virgin at 30. I'M 29 NOW
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  5800. You would have to avoid the tidal forces generated by the wormhole. Although if you made the wormhole large enough, then the tides would be negligible. You also would have to be very careful to not interact with any of the negative matter. If positive and negative gravitational energy were to interact, long enough, they would erase each other's existence. And if the negative matter had a negative inertial mass, it would cause all fundamental interactions to move in the opposite direction based upon the existence of the charge of the gravitational field, which would cause the strong nuclear force to be repulsive instead of attractive for example(nuclei would rip apart). In electromagnetism, this would mean that opposite charges repel and like charges attract, which would mess up chemistry.
    2
  5801. I got to learn to grow up.
    2
  5802. Yes
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  5803. It's like they're in middle school.....
    2
  5804.  @plm8830  you believe in just world fallacy so I'm not arguing with you.
    2
  5805.  @plm8830  no billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs. Only people who are forced to do so would accept such terrible jobs.
    2
  5806.  @GLICIOUS21  THIS.
    2
  5807. Wow
    2
  5808.  @Lulu-ut9pv  and the poor don't work? Give me a break
    2
  5809. Serious or trolling?
    2
  5810. Yes. NC expanded Medicaid after my mom died.
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  5811. Also to force poor people to work for slave wages
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  5812.  @Missy-Missy1111  I want to run for office and change things
    2
  5813. @Missy-Missy1111  thank you. Yep. I was watching that in the news today about my state. Election Integrity has stalled progress.
    2
  5814.  @Missy-Missy1111  thank you. I wish NC wasn't heartless
    2
  5815. ​ @AnnoyedAF I'm trying to change.
    2
  5816.  @AnnoyedAF  beautiful.
    2
  5817. @This-Bish-Annoyed  I'm 28. I've returned to community college part-time, I am a 3rd semester intern, and I am applying for scholarships and trying to get my driver's license and bike more.
    2
  5818.  @AnnoyedAF  thank you! You give me hope!
    2
  5819.  @AnnoyedAF  I think I'm changing for the better.
    2
  5820.  @AnnoyedAF  yes. I should call myself normal. I shouldn't behind labels and be afraid of change
    2
  5821. @This-Bish-Annoyed  I enjoy astrophysics, science fiction, watching movies. I am intelligent, kind, and funny. I was able to get into a 4 year school (and pass the education program they had, I was one of the few community college students in the state to attend). I was able to interview a screenwriter and script consultant, pass her class, and win a screenwriting competition.
    2
  5822.  @AnnoyedAF  Thank you!
    2
  5823. @This-Bish-Annoyed  thank you and enjoy your life!(I will NEVER call myself an incel or loser again)
    2
  5824. ​ @AnnoyedAF I applied to 3 4 four year universities! I might get accepted into the physics program ! AND win a full ride scholarship!
    2
  5825. ​ @AnnoyedAF BEAUTIFUL SISTER!
    2
  5826. ​@Annoyed.Dragon I didn't get accepted but I only have to do one more year of community College to get Enough transferable credits.
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  5827. Low wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
    2
  5828. @claudiastokes6485  you're right.
    2
  5829.  @cordfortina9073  I'm an incel. I'm not a neet. Is there hope for me?
    2
  5830.  @cordfortina9073  I think so too
    2
  5831. Maher makes ten million a year I make $10/hr
    2
  5832. I lost my food stamps
    2
  5833. I'm a cashier at a grocery store. I make $10/hr. By law my grocery store has to accept food stamps but there are no laws mandating the employees themselves don't qualify for food stamps. It turns out food stamps make up 73% of sales.... Grocery stores profit off of poverty.
    2
  5834. When bezos goes to hell he'll be an amazon stocker making minimum wage. He'll have to make his wealth he has now making minimum wage.
    2
  5835.  @FirebirdCamaro1220  sad
    2
  5836. @@RealHumanUser times change. It's time for our values to change too.
    2
  5837. @RealHumanUser  except FF jobs replaced manufacturing jobs, and the same people who oppose a living wage also oppose free college which would allow poor people to escape poverty. And low wage employers don't pay the full tuition for college either.
    2
  5838. ​ @dcg590 acting can be done by children and nobody demeans actors like fast food workers. Stop the dishonesty.
    2
  5839. That's exactly right. I was pursuing Instagram models who were also gym rats. When I was a poor minimum wage worker with no license, car, or house.
    2
  5840.  @stephenkoranteng6260  thank you. I believe they will.
    2
  5841.  @donaldzielke4124  yep
    2
  5842. Correct
    2
  5843. I'm poor. I can't vote
    2
  5844.  @TheShauNanigans  exactly my point. Even if i were to run, and could somehow amass some public funds, I could not amass the amount of wealth that rich Democrats have. There is no way poor people like myself could afford to run for office, especially as an independent, unless we were billionaires first. Since I obviously am not a billionaire, i throw in the towel. Even if all 150 million poor people voted and uniformly politicans would still ignore our demands.
    2
  5845. @TheShauNanigans  I'm willing to try to. For now I want to get my physics degree and have some credentials
    2
  5846. Exactly
    2
  5847. Exactly.
    2
  5848. Correct
    2
  5849. He knows.
    2
  5850. @Libertarian Takes  Most people who have children work. Just as most people who use welfare work. Most jobs do not pay anywhere near enough to keep up with the cost of living. No one wants to be reliant on welfare or consumer debt.
    2
  5851. How are poor people supposed to run for office? Both parties already ignore the poor anyway, which is why i don't vote.
    2
  5852.  @malviseroberson1698  that's messed up
    2
  5853. $25/hr would keep me in poverty if I had a single child.
    2
  5854. Yep
    2
  5855. If grocery store Corporations shared profits like walmart its workers would make around 100k a year.
    2
  5856. Exactly.
    2
  5857. Yes.
    2
  5858. And if they get a job, how do you buy a home making $7.25/hr? Wage stagnation has led wages to go from $80k/yr to $35k. Inflation has made $100,000/yr salary worth $2 million of buying power.
    2
  5859. It's called the Matrix.
    2
  5860. I've turned 29. I'm still a virgin.
    2
  5861. Yep
    2
  5862.  @robertprice9052  skill isn't the same as productivity. These workers are unskilled, but they produce billions in profits that are stolen from them and given to the owner class.
    2
  5863. No, the problem is UBI gives workers too much bargaining power.
    2
  5864. They're rich so they don't care.
    2
  5865. Lol I wish.
    2
  5866. That's messed up
    2
  5867. @burning4rmwithin  except it isn't laziness. If you make $100,000 not working and $10,000 working, why would you work? Welfare pays more than minimum wage jobs, Medicaid alone does. That is the fault of companies, not the government.
    2
  5868.  @BobBob-uv9fq  poverty is a policy choice..it doesn't have to exist.
    2
  5869. Because they don't want poverty to end
    2
  5870.  @TheLastAngryMan01  lol I know right
    2
  5871. Wow.
    2
  5872.  @rafters35  There aren't just millions of higher paying white collar jobs for all restaurant and retail workers to just land into. And it isn't like a restaurant waiter is going to be buying a hosue off of their income anyway. These people do not have any options to get better jobs and even if they did and chose to stay in restaurant industry anyway they still don't deserve to make so little.
    2
  5873.  @CleverGirlAAH  that's even worse.
    2
  5874.  @인형바보  we could end poverty in USA. Our country is wealthy enough.
    2
  5875.  @인형바보  It would take only 1% of GDP to end poverty. Which is messed up considering we spend more than that on anti-poverty programs anyway. And wages simply have to be raised to be enough for people to live(without being poor).
    2
  5876.  @인형바보  I'm saying raise minimum wage and wages in general to outpace inflation/wage stagnation. American politicians hate socialism for poor people. But love it for rich people. $1 trillion a year is spent on anti poverty programs but people are still in poverty....
    2
  5877.  @인형바보  lol it's ok mate. Poverty is terrible you don't have to be American to know that. I'm American. My government knows it simply doesn't care. As long as Nancy Pelosi can make $115 million then that minimum wage can stay at $7 25/hr forever.
    2
  5878. ​ @beganitdidnt6535  exactly. I'm poor lol.
    2
  5879. It's called survivorship bias. And the fallacy of relative privation
    2
  5880. Yep
    2
  5881. Ok
    2
  5882. I'm CHANGING.
    2
  5883. Yes
    2
  5884. If they cared about the poor or middle class they'd be covering the 44% of low income wage earners. Ironically the reporters would then never run out of stories to tell.
    2
  5885. Exactly.
    2
  5886. You're right. I've identified as an incel for so long. I'm changing for the better, but it's scary. Not to mention, I'll never ascend until I actually have sex anyway.
    2
  5887.  @janerkenbrack3373  I'll start trying harder in school, quit my minimum wage job, and focus on becoming independent and getting my degree. While taking chances of forming new relationships along the way.
    2
  5888. Quantitative Easing and Yield Curve Control? I imagine even if he pressed her she would've dodged the question. It's like the economy is measured only by how well off the rich are doing, not anybody else.
    2
  5889. It's called survivorship bias
    2
  5890. And just-world fallacy
    2
  5891. Wrong answer. Politicians believe that you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
    2
  5892.  @HJW018  that's crazy.
    2
  5893.  @firefly9838  Because they don't want to end poverty, they want people to remain poor because poor people can be controlled.
    2
  5894.  @firefly9838  And because most poor people tend to work jobs that conservatives see as undeserving as of a living wage.
    2
  5895. My replies are deleted AGAIN
    2
  5896.  @Its_Time_to_Wake_Up_13  it still isn't how government spending works.
    2
  5897.  @Its_Time_to_Wake_Up_13  I support neither corporations nor the government
    2
  5898.  @uerivbuywecrwefdqervwrrwgv9843  there's no such thing as a meritocracy if that's what you believe. And Bill Gates relies on welfare.
    2
  5899.  @uerivbuywecrwefdqervwrrwgv9843  there's sufficient technology to end all material poverty and hunger worldwide
    2
  5900.  @Beamshipcaptain  that is true.
    2
  5901. Poor people can't afford to run for office
    2
  5902. Inflation is a risk.
    2
  5903. Ok
    2
  5904.  @mike-gv2ol  Even if everyone wanted to do that, there aren't enough high paying jobs for everyone.
    2
  5905.  @mike-gv2ol  since when can you create any business, let alone a corporation, making $7.25/hr? It costs more to travel to/from the job than the job pays you.
    2
  5906. ​ @akatheking82 I see this is about deservedness. When business owners and rich people want government aid, nobody bats an eye But whenever the working class on people wants government aid, all of a sudden people complain about the costs.
    2
  5907. Correct.
    2
  5908. You're right
    2
  5909. I believe you. I'm a virgin at 29
    2
  5910. If you count a cardboard box as an apartment.
    2
  5911.  @Dodgerzden  war and crime are policy choices too.
    2
  5912. You used to be able to buy a house with your salary being 70% the cost of your home. I'd have to make over $300,000 a year to afford homes in my city.
    2
  5913. Someone with 24/7 armed security is telling everyone else there is no need for self-defense. WHY DO POLITICIANS NOT SEE THE IRONY?!
    2
  5914.  @BillyBasd  okay. I won't.
    2
  5915.  @TerraAventurineStudios  thank you for your condolences
    2
  5916.  @joshk.6246  thank you. I can't give up. I promised my mom I'd get my degree
    2
  5917.  @dsiepiela6449  thank you. I don't want to give up because I promised my mom after she passed I wouldn't. I got a full tuition scholarship, that I'm VERY thankful for
    2
  5918.  @Lighthouse6104  thank you
    2
  5919.  @Lighthouse6104  I don't want to give up
    2
  5920.  @hectorvega621  he believes in just-world fallacy. The idea that working hard enough will make everything fine.
    2
  5921. @Michael Euthanasia  the labor shortage revealed that corporations find rising worker power, not continued poverty, as unacceptable. Workers are tired of working for low wages. I'm in college pursuing an Associate’s degree in science/physics. I need at least a bachelor's degree to get STEM jobs and far more schooling than that to become a physicist. For the next 5 years, while I pursue schooling, I can't do a trade job. I can't do any type of job besides seasonal ones. Otherwise, I won't have enough time or energy left for school.
    2
  5922.  @hectorvega621  Yep.
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  5923. If $133k was a new poverty level then literally 80% of the USA would be poor
    2
  5924. According to Republicans if you give 9 trillion to the poor they become lazy but if you give 9 trillion to the rich they don't become lazy for some reason.
    2
  5925.  @kingofamon2217  it's printing money and giving it to rich people. That's welfare.
    2
  5926. Yep. Last spring, I was taking three different classes at two different colleges at once, working as a cashier at a supermarket, being an intern, volunteering, AND helping take care of my sick mom. All at once. I was still poor.
    2
  5927. I'm happy for him as an incel.
    2
  5928. Wat if you're using tinder with 0 standards and get crickets?
    2
  5929.  @mikecynic5167  so..how does it work...
    2
  5930.  @Dimitris_Half  it's a hookup app. And most women i know get hundreds, sometimes thousands, of likes in a few hours...i get 1 to 3 every 5 months or so...
    2
  5931. Yes.
    2
  5932. We are oppressed.
    2
  5933. Yep.
    2
  5934. That's messed up.
    2
  5935. Exactly
    2
  5936. I agree!
    2
  5937. No. It's about power. Clerks can make as much as brain surgeons if they had enough bargaining power.
    2
  5938.  @stoneman623  I've been a cashier for seven years. After all this time, I only make $0.50 above starting pay. And make less than $15/hr even with that. It's because I have no power.
    2
  5939. ​ @TheDivayenta it's disgusting.
    2
  5940. ​ @TheDivayenta it drives me crazy.
    2
  5941.  @lousclue9567  exactly.
    2
  5942. Republicans want poverty
    2
  5943.  @matthias2756  sorry i wasn't clear.
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  5944.  @matthias2756  oh got it. I just have a bias against conservatives like Crowder, they believe success is due to skill and not luck, every problem is an individual one, and poverty is deserved.
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  5945.  @matthias2756  crowder says the minimum wage being low is fine and you working minimum wage makes you a failure but if you go to college to earn more than minimum wage you're a failure too.
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  5946. Elliot Rodger was wealthy enough to afford 1,000 hookers so i don't think prostitution is the solution.
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  5947. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    2
  5948.  @zacg_  if that is sarcasm I actually laughed out loud.
    2
  5949.  @vulcanfeline  yep
    2
  5950.  @rebeccadavis1410  that's messed up.
    2
  5951. Politicians believe you aren't supposed to support a family on a minimum wage job.
    2
  5952. I'm working on getting my first car. I'm looking for a Toyota Corolla or Nissan Sentra that's under $10k.
    2
  5953. One of the seven problems in education.
    2
  5954. Yes.
    2
  5955. Help raise their wages?
    2
  5956.  @egyptianminor  no I've got maybe 100 or so(in all 6 years). But the women either: A. Say nothing B. Advertise their onlyfans/nsfw media C. Say one or two words and then never speak again.
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  5957. Correct.
    2
  5958. They think minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
    2
  5959. @Bradley Smith  a guaranteed income would eliminate poverty but the reason it hasn't been passed is because nobody would work minimum wage jobs then. Workers would have too much bargaining power
    2
  5960. Truthfully Republicans treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
    2
  5961. That's evil
    2
  5962. I'm happy for him as an incel.
    2
  5963.  @Dobviews  yes. I'll start with this: I no longer identify as incel.
    2
  5964.  @Dobviews  thank you, sister.
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  5965. @Appalachian Crochet Designs  I have a few questions: What makes someone a man?(besides turning 18) What makes someone a loser? I believe love is the most beautiful thing ever to feel. Do you agree?
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  5966.  @Dobviews  beautiful. So well said. Reading that made me tear up a little.
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  5967. @Appalachian Crochet Designs  I'll tell you a little about myself, and then I want to see how your answers change. I'm 28 years old. I am a virgin. I've never hugged, held hands, kissed, or dated either. I wish to lose my virginity (like guy in the video). I have made some major mistakes in my life, but I desire to change. 2009-2013 I graduated high school 2014-2015- I went to community college. I flunked out/lost financial aid. 2016-2020- worked as a cashier. 2021- was a NEET. Not involved in education Employment or training. 2022-returned to community college. Then I got into an internship. 2023- got into another internship. Became a visiting student at a 4 year university. I'm trying to finish community College. I want to do that.
    2
  5968. @Appalachian Crochet Designs  long story short what do you think of me now?
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  5969. @Appalachian Crochet Designs  beautiful. Thank you sister. I'll hang in there. I got this :)
    2
  5970.  @Dobviews  stay safe. I won't give up hope.
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  5971. I believe I am already a man. I just need to work harder
    2
  5972. Exactly
    2
  5973. Politicians axed free college and that won't fix the underlying problem of low wage work.
    2
  5974. Money
    2
  5975. Politicians don't want the poor to have health care
    2
  5976. That's messed up
    2
  5977.  @ssshar2176  epic.
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  5978. Worker exploitation. Exactly.
    2
  5979. No amount of voting will change anything: it has to do with values: politicans do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
    2
  5980. Because in the seventies the US was a manufacturing economy. People with only a high-school diploma could get jobs that didn't even require a high school diploma and made the equivalent of $80,000 a year in today's wages. Those jobs were shipped overseas and were replaced with low paying service sector jobs. So now people with only a high school education have access to nothing but minimum wage jobs.
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  5981. Yes.
    2
  5982. It's about priorities.
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  5983. ​ @David-wm9wy exactly
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  5984. Let's not forget you often work part-time so you don't receive health or retirement benefits.
    2
  5985. Yes. That's messed up.
    2
  5986. ​ @DialgaMarine3 ok
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  5987. Because I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Although without a car or license, I don't go anywhere to meet women.
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  5988.  @daryusi9347  okay.
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  5989. ​@Snaku 🐍 I won't give up.
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  5990. That's messed up.
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  5991.  @Missy-Missy1111  that's messed up
    2
  5992. 34.
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  5993. Lolol mate THAT'S WHERE I AM NOW. At The supermarket where I work, everyone is kept part-time so they don't receive benefits like health insurance or paid time off. In fact that is commonplace in my state, which is why so much money is spent on Medicaid, to make up for the fact that many people are denied health insurance through their jobs and are paid so little they can't get health care on their own.
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  5994. Since full time is 35 hours a week, the most even managers will work is 34 and a half. The only people who work past 35 hours a week are the assistant and store managers, but they receive health insurance anyway as part of the job. Not to mention they are required to work at least 50 hours a week anyway, so it's not like they could work less than 30 hours a week if they wanted.
    2
  5995. My boss also told me that the family-wide health insurance offered to him was double more expensive than what his wife had who was a government worker. So he literally chose not to get health insurance, and he was store manager. Then he told me he was offered 401K, but at 0% match, making the perk worthless. Whereas his wife gets a pension.
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  5996. I'm sorry to hear your story and I relate to it, since I have a disabled brother on Medicaid And I'm on Medicaid myself to afford my medicine while in community college (colleges don't cover healthcare).
    2
  5997. ​ @ErutaniaRose beautiful
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  5998. Correct.
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  5999.  @tomhannigan2234  Well...yes. Peter thinks that poverty wages are "deserved." I think Peter represents most of the Republican Party: they have a fundamental belief that some jobs have value and others do not. Neurosurgeons(in USA) make $900k-$1.1 million a year, and Republicans cry about them making too little. But when waiters ask for $31,000 a year, they're making too much.
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  6000. He also said the government "steals" from the private market: I argue it is the exact opposite. Markets don't exist without government intervention and the rich individuals/businesses rig the economy to skyrocket their own wealth. Most of the money that the private Market "deserves" come from technological innovations, market concentrations, and financialization. For example, without intellectual property laws, Microsoft and Bill Gates go bankrupt. With severe limits on acquisitions and mergers, most corporations would get dismantled. Let's say A&M can't create a company that's past $1 billion in assets. If it happens the entire company's assets get seized. Ditto for companies already passed the $1 billion mark.
    2
  6001. Sorry I'm ranting.
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  6002.  @tomhannigan2234  peter just spouts nonsense ignoring other countries success and ignoring our pen country's failure, namely with poverty.
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  6003. Poor people don't have money
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  6004. Due to lack of money and skills, yes they are.
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  6005.  @ass4sale2  and no worker deserves to make so little, not if he/she is working 40 hours per week.
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  6006. What's worse is WHY productivity has increased-the rich using welfare. USA strengthened intellectual property laws and established no practical upper limits on acquisitions and mergers causing corporate consolidation. In theory, Microsoft could undergo a $1 trillion merger if it doesn't hold too much of market dominance. And a company can theoretically undergo as many A&M as possible.
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  6007. Blame corporations for wanting slave labor.
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  6008. ​ @ianmonam you can't. I can't afford $10,000/year tuition working as a cashier at a supermarket making $10.50/hr
    2
  6009. Yep.
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  6010. It's terrible
    2
  6011. Exactly.
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  6012. ​ @ErutaniaRose that's beautiful to hear
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  6013. Because they believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
    2
  6014. I want to lose my virginity at 29
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  6015. They're quick to decide other people's wages, but don't want the public deciding their own.
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  6016. True but the core problem is the cause of extreme wealth: government intervention. Strengthening Intellectual property laws, no practical limits on acquisitions/mergers, and private equity have caused almost all market/firm concentrations....which in turn creates billionaire individuals.
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  6017. You're right.
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  6018. They can but don't want to.
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  6019. When I went to higher education I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country.
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  6020. Funny how literally only the rich criticize the poor on tv like this. I've never heard an actual minimum wage worker say the minimum wage is too high, or a medicaid recipient say healthcare isn't deserved
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  6021. Wow.
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  6022. ​@noise2signal he believes in the fallacy of relative privation. Let him believe his nonsense
    2
  6023. ​ @msmorgybear exactly
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  6024. 1. He was poor, as are most incels 2. Hookers don't offer genuine affection.
    2
  6025.  @Zachary6060  you're right
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  6026.  @Zachary6060  so? Hire an escort then move on with my life?
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  6027. Wrong conclusions. Conservatives oppose helping the poor become middle class.
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  6028. Conservatives believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  6029. Yep. I lost Pell grants and food stamps, I hope I don't lose Medicaid
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  6030. @mirithilrose54  thank you.
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  6031. Crazy
    2
  6032. That's messed up.
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  6033. Yep
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  6034.  @harrietharlow9929  exactly. It's about priorities.
    2
  6035. All public schools for all degrees for all US citizens. If Mexico and Russia can do it, which have far less wealth than the USA, then the USA can do it too.
    2
  6036. Typical.
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  6037.  @TheElitegamer23  well I stopped in 2015. Didn't start again until 2023.
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  6038.  @davidowens1424  I am not saying nobody can get through college and hardships. Just because you succeeded doesn't mean everyone else can too. And community college is trade school. Now that she's gone, I don't have to take care of anyone besides myself so now I've been set free to pursue school full-time.
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  6039.  @invadingomen6826  thank you. I'll succeed. YouTube deletes messages often and I don't get notifications anymore
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  6040. ​ @x-men69-96 I'm on medicaid. It's horrible
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  6041. These policies reduce worker desperation, so the rich oppose it
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  6042. it's a power differential. A neurosurgeon can make $60/hr to start. A cashier can't demand to make that much even if every fast food joint and supermarket made a septillion dollars in profits every nanosecond.
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  6043. Since the rich contribute so much in lobbying and the poor can't politicians ignore the latter.
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  6044. Correct.
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  6045. The government spends about $2 trillion annually on poverty. That's about $253,000 per poor family in the country...yet there is still poverty. Why? Because that money is locked behind a pay-wall: countless regulations, rules, and restrictions short-term objectives fractured among over 13 different federal agencies alone.
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  6046.  @Jay.the.goblinking  if I don't win scholarships and grants soon, I will have to drop out of school and give up my dream of getting a Physics Degree
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  6047.  @Jay.the.goblinking  would you support me receiving a full ride scholarship or grant?
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  6048.  @Jay.the.goblinking  I won't give up hope. I guess my life could be worse and no politician is personally going to make it better.
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  6049.  @andrewsmith3257  yes. I wouldn't be able to afford my medical services without it while attending higher education. Since A. Higher education doesn't provide health insurance B. Entry level jobs don't C. Internships don't
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  6050.  @roarof24  my bad I pinged the wrong person
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  6051. Exactly.
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  6052. ​ @josephcalp1604 Do such restrictions apply to billionaires who receive corporate grants and bailouts? No? The restrictions are inhumane. Poor people are not lazy.
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  6053. Prostitution is not going to help these people. Incels don't care about lack of sex. Their real problem is their sexism, entitlement, and control.
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  6054.  @kennylanqua6512  because?
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  6055.  @kennylanqua6512  I'm a male virgin at 28. You hit the nail right on the head- I don't desire using a hooker because it isn't genuine affection. It changes nothing about me long-term.
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  6056.  @jonjosenna5581  it is indeed. I know because i live here
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  6057. Wow.
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  6058. Wrong. We can't help the poor too much because they won't put up with workers exploitation.
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  6059. Fox news supports more money for the rich and less money for the poor.
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  6060. Getting financial aid is next to impossible because you have to have both good grades and enroll full-time. Less than 1% of scholarships are full rides.... most barely pay the cost of a single semester even at just a trade school. I work as a cashier and I would need to make $60 an hour to be able to support a family of four on my own. There are no positions for most of us minimum wage workers to work our way up to so we're stuck in this low-wage job. Then I'm in an internship and I'm dealing with "temping," where I get paid minimum wage and I have to agree to it based on the idea that if things go well I'll be made full time.
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  6061.  @Brave2standalone  that's the neat part! NOTHING!
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  6062. The problem with your line of thinking is this: many people think poor people don't "work hard enough" to "earn" government assistance, and thus don't "deserve" healthcare.
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  6063. They blame individuals in order to feed into myth of meritocracy.
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  6064. @tazmanian1033  I won't give up man. I WILL get those degrees I've wanted for so long.
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  6065.  @tazmanian1033  I SHALL!
    2
  6066. ​ @tazmanian1033 beautiful and honest
    2
  6067. Besides the 50s through 70s where high school graduates got factory jobs that paid middle class wages.
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  6068. College isn't affordable and no one gets trained anymore.
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  6069.  @sammy-gd7hw  you need your employee to be alive so yes it is.
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  6070. Yep.
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  6071. You sound heartless
    2
  6072. Exactly.
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  6073. Correct.
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  6074. ​@mheberling5939 that's where you are blind to the real problem: just-world fallacy. Many people believe rich people and business owners have " succeeded " in the " system that works, " so when they make a mistake, they " deserve " to get bailed out due to their success. Whereas poor people have failed, so any government help they receive is a " hand out. "
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  6075. ​ @mason4966  I make less than $1300 a month as a cashier.
    2
  6076. It's a mixture of survivorship bias and just-world fallacy.
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  6077. Yep
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  6078. Ok
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  6079. They're afraid of having to work a real job and being in debt.
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  6080. Yep
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  6081. You have to be least 18, and not a felon.
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  6082. Politicians know poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  6083. Yep.
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  6084.  @PittsburghSonido  it's messed up.
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  6085. ​ @MzFlowerzB  lol yeah.
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  6086. Incels don't want hookers
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  6087. Priorities.
    2
  6088. Millions of kids are raised in poverty, yes.
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  6089.  @jackgude3969  it's disgusting.
    2
  6090.  @nickthompson1812  you're exactly right.
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  6091. Stupidity knows no bounds, doesn't it?
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  6092. Politicians don't want to end poverty because it goes against corporations.
    2
  6093. I don't know about that.
    2
  6094. I'm changing my life, but without a job, license, or car I don't go out much. Plus, I'm poor. I want to lose my virginity more than anything.
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  6095. Cool story. Someone has to work there. You're saying you want society's lower end jobs done with poverty, not without it.
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  6096.  @undeadblizzard  exactly!
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  6097. Agreed
    2
  6098. I've learned how many barriers to college exist for poor people: I don't get financial aid for being poor itself, financial aid appeals for me max out at 2, and Pell grants don't cover everything anyway.
    2
  6099. Yeah it's messed up.
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  6100.  @victorianmelody46  yes
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  6101. @armoloshimay9473  that isn't the point. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    2
  6102.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  all right. I'll stick to the course.
    2
  6103. @YASMINOGBU  I do believe it is okay I've been rejected. You're right, I'm not entitled to love or affection. There are many women out there. I just have to try.
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  6104. Yes
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  6105. The point isbto perpetuate poverty.
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  6106. Blame Calvinism
    2
  6107. that's messed up on so many levels.
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  6108. Yep
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  6109. government should allow homes to be bought by only the poor or middle class temporarily. ban rich people from buying up homes.
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  6110. @antonioiniguez1615  you're an other wallet warrior then. This is a moral issue to you, not economic: you believe you have the right to tell others how much money they deserve to make. And that you believe some people deserve poverty. No, not everyone can move up because that isn't mathematically feasible. That's like expecting every cop to become police chief all at once. I have a plan, and I'm still in poverty. But yet you seem to ignore that.
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  6111.  @reasonerenlightened2456  thanks.
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  6112. Making $6 an hour decades ago equals about $27 an hour now.
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  6113.  @ssjsupermario5765  poor people are useful
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  6114. Not how government spending works. And nobody ever makes that argument when it comes to other groups receiving government assistance.
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  6115.  @Ralph-rr9iv  there are plenty of groups that receive government assistance/subsidies that aren't criticized for receiving government aid. Nobody complains about government assistance when the government spent trillions of dollars on middle eastern wars, bailing out wall street, or tax cuts, or loan forgiveness for businesses. Nobody complains about college students being awarded grants and fellowships. It's only when the government helps the poor/disadvantaged is this anger over helping others comes out.
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  6116.  @Ralph-rr9iv  not really. They're both forms of government aid. many people don't get angry at aid or debt being paid for the rich, but they get angry if it helps the poor or college students. The anger over debt relief and assistance isn't generated by the raw numbers, it's generated by the fact many Americans believe they get no help in exchange for helping said groups(welfare recipients and college students with debt).
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  6117.  @Ralph-rr9iv  If the debt is based on a scam and/or injustice, then it becomes a societal problem, not an individual one. Don't be mad at the victims (students who want better lives for themselves), be mad at the system for wanting to make college so expensive only the rich can afford it. I can't believe people are angry "you want to go to college and get better jobs!"..yes... Contribute to society...not work minimum wage jobs or be on welfare...want to save and invest...those sound like normal things that people ought to do. The real reason there is a student debt crisis isn't about the cost but the benefits - it's about ensuring there is disadvantaged, a lack of access for people that are deemed inferior intellectually, racially, economically.
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  6118.  @Ralph-rr9iv  for your example yes, I'm fine forgiving medical debt
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  6119. ​ @Oksobasically2 that's messed up
    1
  6120. ​ @theotherotherjenny not really.
    1
  6121. Wow.
    1
  6122. Lies.
    1
  6123.  @EXOdagr8t  no they haven't
    1
  6124. Wrong.
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  6125. it's because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
    1
  6126. Because people don't believe poor people deserve to be middle class
    1
  6127. Why?
    1
  6128. All ftl requires artificial gravity
    1
  6129. Experience is not a skill. Only education and responsibility are viable skills. Not everyone can be promoted to manager.
    1
  6130. Exactly.
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  6131.  @GodVlogger  all of whom would like housing and healthcare.
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  6132. 1. True, but society can change. 3. Conservatives believe the two are one in the same due to just-world fallacy. 4. Then women don't deserve to vote
    1
  6133. Yep
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  6134.  @michaelchaney2336  that'll work.
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  6135. because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  6136. Wow...Poverty problem solved then!
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  6137.  @bjnowak  lololol that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I guess armed robbery is a mindset too? Rape? Murder?
    1
  6138.  @bjnowak  believing in a different reality? That's called fantasy.
    1
  6139. Yep.
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  6140. @Neo Sannyasin confucious
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  6141. @Neo Sannyasin you're welcome
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  6142. Then your business model is wrong.
    1
  6143. I'm a virgin at 28.
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  6144. Because Noone wants to hear from poor people, only the rich.
    1
  6145. It's evil
    1
  6146. Bill gates didn't earn his money.
    1
  6147. ​ @warpedcomedy beautiful
    1
  6148. 7.25 is still too low
    1
  6149. Jeremy Snyder tng s1ep26
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  6150. Because it's about welfare. Conservatives oppose welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  6151.  @maynardbecker4613  exactly.
    1
  6152. Yep
    1
  6153. Republicans hate poor people.
    1
  6154. Yep
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  6155.  @patricksaxon3983  it can support a family if we chose so.
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  6156.  @patricksaxon3983  if you think we can't change the MW because society wasn't designed that way then women don't deserve to vote.
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  6157.  @patricksaxon3983  but minimum wage should support a family now.
    1
  6158. Not everyone has that same opportunity.
    1
  6159. Nobody knows
    1
  6160.  @circuitboardsushi  that is correct. And without a theory of quantum gravity we will never know how to make exotic matter.
    1
  6161.  @circuitboardsushi  The only way to produce negative matter is from the casmir effect
    1
  6162. Correct
    1
  6163. Exactly ​ @rich1051414 
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  6164. Christian Silva none.
    1
  6165. Correct.
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  6166. Exactly.
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  6167. Exactly
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  6168. Yep.
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  6169. A poverty wage is fair to neither.
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  6170.  @ozarked2363  the employee needs more bargaining power. Via government. Minimum wage jobs don't give you skills.
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  6171.  @ozarked2363  There is no negotiation mate. A janitor is in no position to demand anything. A doctor is. And unless most Americans are millionaires then most people have to work in order to survive. They don't have the luxury of rejecting any job and all jobs they don't like. If employees could make whatever they wanted within reason the working poor would not exist. All minimum wage jobs are dead end. Being a cashier at Walmart does not give you skills to be a STEM Lord. Microsoft is not hiring someone as a software engineer, NASA is not hiring someone as a rocket scientist, no company anywhere is hiring me as any type of scientist in anything if my job experience is using a cash register and bagging groceries.
    1
  6172.  @ozarked2363  you honestly think a Janitor with enough effort can become an engineer?
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  6173.  @ozarked2363  I'm just curious if you think anyone can achieve such a career With enough effort(I'm a cashier now and wish to be a physicist). Also if you truly believe that then that means all of the working poor are lazy(since they could get better jobs).
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  6174.  @ozarked2363  I make $10/hr as a cashier because I am in no position to demand $50/hr or even $20. If I could "negotiate" as you imply employees can I'd make $85,000 a year. Anyway I'm attending college now to become a physicist.
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  6175. Idk
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  6176. Both are equally impossible. Both require astronomical amounts of energy and negative energy
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  6177. Censtudios you made over $30/hr?
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  6178. Censtudios your country has a higher cost of living and taxes
    1
  6179. What video editing tool(s) did you use to make this video?
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  6180. People don't succeed or fail based on their own effort because effort and reward are not the same. Effort is within your control, reward is not.
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  6181.  @johnc1014  anyone can put in the effort to start a business, that doesn't mean you'll actually start one or that the business will be successful because those two things are rewards which are outside your control. Most businesses fail not due to lack of proper effort but lack of proper reward.
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  6182.  @johnc1014  that doesn't change the fact people don't succeed based on effort alone.
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  6183.  @johnc1014  both hard work and luck. Bottom line is no-one succeeds without luck aiding hard work and vice versa. Luck-being well sheltered, well educated, well loved, physically healthy, mentally healthy, no victim of crime, and so on. Many people lack some or all of these things, yet among them are innumerable individuals who possess the capacity to succeed at a great many things if they had received the right luck.
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  6184. Daniele filipson tng the neutral zone. S1ep26
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  6185. Nyjeal Smith too bad life's not that simple
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  6186. Because us politicians allow poverty wages.
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  6187. Correct.
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  6188.  @crobinson2624  he knows there isn't
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  6189. Yep.
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  6190.  @Saberwolves84  he's a conservative troll.
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  6191. Wow
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  6192. Yeah that's why restaurants make billions yearly.
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  6193.  @MrTubs911  McDonald's makes billions....yes it does.... I'm not talking about restaurant owners. Considering what Chic Fil A makes each cashier could make $100,000/yr.
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  6194.  @MrTubs911  a business can't function without workers...so without cashiers having owners would sell nothing.
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  6195. It is a real job.... They are doing something.
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  6196. Yep.
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  6197. Not everyone has the circumstances to succeed.
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  6198.  @johnc1014  you know damn well that effort and reward are not the same and nobody succeeds without help from someone else.
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  6199.  @johnc1014  diverting money from the rich to the poor is not a handout because all workers contribute to society, all workers deserve to receive help(money) that they help produce(profits). Sorry but relying on charity is no long-term solution to poverty, hell if everyone had decent wages, benefits, jobs, and access to college poverty would be much lower.
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  6200.  @johnc1014  the job can already pay alot the employers don't have to pay them anything because there is no consent. Employees do not make what they are worth, they make what they negotiate and minimum wage workers have no power to negotiate the pay they want. And you like many conservatives have the fundamental belief that some jobs have value and others do not. CEOs make millions yearly and you always say they make too little whereas cashiers make 30,000 a year and they're making too much. That's wrong, all jobs are valuable. The rich don't earn anything, they need help to succeed just like anybody else. The rich depend on the government far more than the poor do it's just that many people believe the rich deserve help whereas the poor don't. Bill Gates relied on intellectual property laws, Corporate Finance laws, tax laws, etc that allowed his company to flourish via Market concentrations, technological innovations, etc.
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  6201. mo marius proof?
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  6202.  @TheAaronChand  he's an idiot.
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  6203.  @tannerbananer5774  it's required but not for all types of lawyers
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  6204. The minimum wage is $7.25/hr. That isn't enough to support even a single person.
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  6205. Leftists care because a meritocracy doesn't exist.
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  6206.  @johnc1014  it's already 0 since it isn't enough to live on. Wages are not mutually set between employees and employers because employees don't have enough bargaining power. There's a power imbalance. That is where the government steps in. To give power to employees.
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  6207.  @johnc1014  working as a cashier or janitor or hotel cleaner, no matter how long you do it, does not increase your skill set. You gain no additional responsibility and no additional education, making yourself more valuable.
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  6208.  @johnc1014  the worker is willing to work that low wage job because they have no alternative from there being too much employee competition and too little money to not work.
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  6209. False.
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  6210. Once you're locked up the investigation ends
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  6211. Beautiful 😊
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  6212. @UC_OrxOw3AoZ8rg8KQYyoekg you're an idiot thinking poor people choose to be poor.
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  6213. Correct. It's called just-world fallacy. Conservatives believe this because if society is unfair then effort doesn't matter.
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  6214. Correct. We have auto loan debt that's billions every month.
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  6215. Why?
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  6216. ​ @msterrific I'm a virgin at 28. I have 40 days left to lose it before I'm 29.
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  6217. A cashier makes the same amount of money no matter how many hours they work or how long they work there. And there aren't enough managerial positions for everyone to move up to. And that's assuming you're offered a promotion at all.
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  6218.  @theimpaler2317  work ethic does not determine a promotion if any. Nor does it determine a pay raise at your current position. If that's the case I'd like $50 an hour as a sandwich maker at Subway if I'm a good worker.
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  6219.  @theimpaler2317  how about start every worker out at a living wage because not everyone can become a rocket scientist or doctor.
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  6220.  @theimpaler2317  i want to be an astrophysics professor. Currently I'm a cashier, attending college, and doing an internship. I can't expect to buy a house bagging groceries.
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  6221.  @theimpaler2317  I don't want to give up. I have faith that me trying can't be all for nothing.
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  6222. Lol so you have to employ someone to know $12/hr Is a poverty wage?
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  6223. Thank you!
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  6224. Rofl
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  6225. Because you and Farron cousins fail to realize something. Politicians are presented with a very simple choice: you can have worker solidarity exist or you can have poverty but you cannot have both. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our government treats as the risk they refuse to allow.
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  6226. Work requirements exist to prevent poor people from being empowered to reject wage slavery. I.e. minimum wage
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  6227. They also exist to reinforce the notion poor people don't deserve to be middle class
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  6228. The avg store makes $43 million YEARLY. Walmart Supercenters often pass the $100 million mark year after year after year. One quarter last year Walmart made over $126 billion in profits and its annual gross sales exceeded $500 billion.
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  6229.  @ernieswitzer217  I agree!
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  6230.  @rustinusti  exactly
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  6231.  @luodeligesi7238  ok
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  6232.  @MatthewMortensen1  ok
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  6233.  @arjunratnadev  what did you say originally?
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  6234.  @arjunratnadev  yep
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  6235.  @rustinusti  wow
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  6236. 50k but still.
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  6237. Yep
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  6238. Good
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  6239. you are correct.
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  6240. It can be.
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  6241. Except conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty. They oppose a living wage and welfare at once.
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  6242. Correct.
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  6243. You want poverty then
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  6244. @neilkurzman4907  what he is saying is he more concerned with paying $5 for a hamburger than lifting millions out of poverty.
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  6245.  @Joshua-m1q  inflation poses a real risk, yes. But you're more concerned with mitigating the risk of inflation than embracing the opportunity of lifting workers out of poverty and providing them with more bargaining power.
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  6246. Doing that hasn't solved my incel dom
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  6247. That's sad
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  6248. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office or we would. There are many smart people trapped in awful jobs with no way up or out.
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  6249. That's messed up
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  6250. Why?
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  6251. Correct. Politicians treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  6252. About $27/hr an hour. And college was only $900 per year.
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  6253. Or more
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  6254. ​ @DevinMacGregor exactly
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  6255. ​ @DevinMacGregor it's calvinism
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  6256. @grumpyoldman6503  yes.
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  6257. Holy shit that was a long reply.
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  6258. This problem is ideological, not economic, politicians don't want to end debt like rape or kidnapping.
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  6259.  @Lets.Go.Brandon  his whole argument rests on the idea he thinks the debt is wrong. I do agree he isn't a law expert, and neither am I.
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  6260. ​ @keithbaker944 yep.
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  6261. Republicans believe government spending on the working class is an entitlement. But helping the rich is an investment.
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  6262.  @mattdillon4398  wrong take away message
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  6263. Walmart would have to raise prices by 31% to pay its workforce around $100,000 a year.
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  6264. Education lobbies will fight that tooth and nail
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  6265. On a fundamental level. The rich and Powerful are not willing to pay the price to eliminate poverty. They Fundamentally Thrive off of poverty's existence
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  6266. What do you want? I'm poor. I can't afford to run for office in USA.
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  6267. Correct.
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  6268. There's already one.
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  6269. You can't even go to the movies making minimum wage. Minimum wage isn't even enough to do what you're suggesting.
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  6270. Why can't Kyle talk about inflation?
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  6271. Okay
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  6272. Crazy how there are more poor people than rich people but Maher still says this
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  6273. What's wrong with that?
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  6274.  @Iggy1008  not everyone plans to have kids. Not everyone can afford college for better pay.
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  6275. I wanted free college and student loan debt cancellation so bad.
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  6276. Yes
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  6277.  @SpikeTFA  you can't buy respect or love. Legalizing prostitution doesn't provide real validation.
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  6278. except conservatives judge people by skills. Thus, doctors deserve a better life and are better people, where as cashiers and janitors are worth nothing both in an economic and moral sense.
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  6279. ​ @elijaharvinger1178 lol
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  6280. Inflation is an acceptable risk
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  6281. But I really REALLY want to lose my virginity.
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  6282. Profit sharing has to be forced across the board
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  6283. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  6284. @valerielhw  I'm stating the real reason conservatives oppose welfare. The economic reason anyway. As long as poor people have no social safety net to fall back on, then they are forced to work for whatever crummy wages they can find. Welfare is about control. It's about ensuring welfare isn't a viable alternative to work, or rather, work that requires below cost of living wages to accept.
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  6285.  @valerielhw  for the record, I support UBI, living wage, free college, and Medicare for all. The real political problem with ubi is what I said: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. This pandemic proved it.
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  6286. @willjapheth8033  I said it already: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If welfare programs could support people without work, then nobody would ever choose to work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement. As long as welfare isn't robust enough to replace work, then poor people are forced to accept labor market conditions that they, and nobody else, would ever or should ever accept: wage slavery, no benefits, no job security.
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  6287.  @willjapheth23789  if you had $21 million, would you be a janitor at all, or if you were, for $10.50/hr? Of course not. Pay people enough to not work, and they won't accept wage slavery.. They'll accept jobs, just not jobs that exploited them.
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  6288. @valerielhw  conservatives oppose a living wage as a moral issue: they believe poor people are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. It's about the fact that doctors being able to afford a house is fine, but cashiers doing the same is wrong.
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  6289. @willjapheth8033  a UBI was almost passed under Nixon but republicans opposed it(because it a guaranteed income or unconditional cash transfer) and democrats opposed it(because the ubi was too stringent).
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  6290. @willjapheth8033  because many conservatives believe business owners, billionaires and investors have "worked hard enough" to "deserve" their quality of life. I assure you, doctors making six figures doesn't bother many conservatives, if any. But let cashiers make six figures, and you'd see the same people angry.
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  6291. ​ @valerielhw I've won a full tuition scholarship
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  6292. No. A hooker doesn't like you. The sex isn't genuine.
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  6293. Wow
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  6294. Exactly.
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  6295. Because ceos deserve more money. Where as Lower leveled jobs deserves less
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  6296. You're evil
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  6297. They don't want unskilled workers making anything.
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  6298. Pay them too.
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  6299.  @hedark1135  um. How does that not count as a job? Are you saying they work for a fake company and make monopoly money?
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  6300.  @hedark1135  I'm aware of what they make. My point still stands.
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  6301. Because the point Is to enforce bad working conditions.
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  6302. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  6303. They can they just don't want to. Chic Fil A stores makes $4 to $5 million annually. If they paid their workers fairly their cashiers would be making around $100,000 a year.
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  6304. An Ohio pizza shop owner gave his workers the sales for one day and the workers made $78/hr.
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  6305. I'm an incel myself but I don't approach women. And I have no career, car, house, or independence.
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  6306.  @AaronHope_Sow  that's epic.
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  6307.  @louisefleming3117  yep
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  6308.  @AaronHope_Sow  do you support that?
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  6309.  @rnrpeg1  wow
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  6310.  @lauriesica  yep
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  6311.  @lorrie2878  that's messed up.
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  6312.  @lzrd8460  YES
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  6313.  @lorrie2878  ok
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  6314.  @lorrie2878  I believe conservatives hate minimum wage workers and believe that they deserve poverty.
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  6315.  @lorijames8959  it's crazy
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  6316.  @brianantunes8467  yes.
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  6317. It isn't.
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  6318. My state of north carolina refused to pass a tax bill increase on corporations that could've made community college free.
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  6319. @cosmicbear88-23  ah yes. Nothing is free! Why didn't I think of that before? facepalm. This is about priorities. Our government has spent trillions of dollars on Middle Eastern wars, coronavirus relief, tax cuts for the rich, and health insurance companies. It is in our power to wipe out poverty. It is simply not among our priorities.
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  6320.  @barnaclestval  correct. I need welfare.
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  6321. ​ @jf9979 exactly
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  6322. Correct.
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  6323. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. I want to lose my virginity BEFORE I turn 29.
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  6324. I have 20 days.
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  6325. I have 7 days left.
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  6326.  @charmanderchar3835  Amazon and kanye are dependent on government subsidies(patent laws). Lebron james relies on brand deals too.
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  6327. It's called survivorship bias.
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  6328. I don't believe that. You are incorrect.
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  6329. There are things that we as a society value more than money and power, such as women having the right to vote. If Kamala Harris was offered 1 billion dollars every single second for the rest of her life to take away women's voting, would she take the money? Of course not. So on a fundamental level, our society values women's suffrage but not people having a living wage or benefits. The two qualities of life are not the same.
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  6330. Yep
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  6331. Because many people think minimum wage workers deserve poverty
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  6332. Unskilled is arbitrary and meaningless.
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  6333. It isn't a handout.
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  6334.  @flyingcatbox1822  investment. Empowerment of the poor against employers.
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  6335.  @oldsesalt8496  Okay.
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  6336. Half the country is poor or low-income
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  6337.  @alanawinner  yep. The official poverty line is way too low. There is no way someone working at even twice the minimum wage could afford food, healthcare, housing, transportation, etc.
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  6338.  @alanawinner  YouTube deletes my comments
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  6339. Yes
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  6340.  @ushual  I'll subscribe. I'm very liberal.
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  6341.  @ushual  I wanted to be a left wing journalist myself.
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  6342. Yep.
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  6343. ​ @alexander10122 ok
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  6344. Poor women don't have a right to bear children. Poor women should not be allowed to have kids until they become middle class.
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  6345. No bargaining power for the workers
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  6346. ​ @SL-lz9jr I read all of that twice.
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  6347. ​@dani hesslinger once you turn 26, if you have no kids or disabilities, then you are classified as "able-bodied" and can't receive medicaid or any other public assistance.
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  6348. I only want to lose my virginity.
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  6349. On the other hand, forty-four percent of the population, one hundred and forty million people, are in poverty.
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  6350.  @Scar-jg4bn  I desire to be a physics professor and screenwriter.
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  6351.  @Scar-jg4bn  thanks. I'm 28 and poor but I believe I can still turn my life around
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  6352.  @s0515033  they could pay workers around $100,000 a year and only raise prices by a few dollars, and that's assuming there's no increase in demand to compensate.
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  6353. Not how it works.
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  6354. I know.
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  6355.  @Achieme  yeah. so you agree with my comment?
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  6356.  @Achieme  also somewhere in the video one rich person said poor people can lobby the government. Dude missed the part where lobbying is $4 billion a year. In order to lobby congress means you have to be rich. So a poor person has to not be poor in the first place?(to come up with 4 billion dollars) that's like medical schools only accepting people who already have a medical degree.
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  6357.  @Achieme  oh yeah that killed me too. The entire entertainment industry makes money only due to intellectual property, which is a form of welfare/free money. So these rich people love welfare for themselves but demonize the poor for receiving the same thing, except the poor receive far less money and far too little and for far too short of a time.
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  6358.  @Achieme  correct.
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  6359. Yes
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  6360. My comments are gone but yes
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  6361. youtube algorithims.
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  6362. I paid $45 for a single t-shirt once.
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  6363.  @idklikewat  i think it's because rich people believe in the myth of meritocracy. So the rich don't like admitting problems are systemic..since it nullifies effort/skill.
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  6364. ​ @RockstarFisheye lolol
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  6365. ​ @ixclusiverc everyone can not get promoted
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  6366.  @ixclusiverc  okay. I'm pursuing a Physics Degree now. I quit minimum wage jobs and I told myself in the next five years I want a Physics Degree and to be a science journalist.
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  6367.  @ixclusiverc  everyone mathematically cannot be promoted or go to college or trade school.
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  6368.  @ixclusiverc  well I won't give up. I technically don't work anywhere now, but I attend school full-time (7 credits over summer, 14 credits in the fall). I should research how to become a science journalist and take that journey step by step.
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  6369. Then you're fucked.
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  6370. Inflation is an acceptable risk
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  6371. "I'm sorry?" Jon Stewart making CNN look like the Michael Phelps of shit.
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  6372. Poverty is a policy choice
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  6373.  @crobinson2624  Correct. I wish i could end poverty but....my government. our government....simply is too corrupt
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  6374. I'd tax corporations 6x the amount spent on welfare. I bet they'd pay higher wages very quickly.
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  6375. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  6376. Incels want power over women not sex.
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  6377. I'll tell you why. Hopefully my comments won't get deleted: The real reason many conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage is because their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more than their low level abilities entitle them to earn. Conservatives get mad at other people getting something for nothing, i.e. people must earn a good life. Conservatives believe simply poor people don't deserve that much money. The implication here is conservatives have the right to tell poor people what to make
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  6378. Exactly.
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  6379. Help.
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  6380. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs, only the poor and unskilled do. Rich people use poverty to exploit others into doing dead-end jobs. Any mechanism which gives the poor more bargaining power, such as increased access to education, is destroyed by the rich and powerful for this exact reason.
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  6381. ​ @mr.fishstick_yt9955 exactly
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  6382. UBI doesn't work because it empowers workers
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  6383. Idk the profit margin either
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  6384. Exactly
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  6385. I have used tinder. Hinge. Bumble. Okcupid. Singlesmeet. Hiki. For over 5 years straight. I'm still a virgin. Dating and hookup apps don't work.
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  6386. No such thing as a meritocracy.
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  6387.  @LetMeOutProductions  people are not equal. Life is not equal, fair, or easy. Everyone has luck contributing to their success or failure. There has never been or never will be a meritocracy.
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  6388. It's to try and coerce poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  6389. So biden is still serving corporations?
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  6390. Disgusting.
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  6391. Exactly.
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  6392. I'm a freaking virgin at 29.
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  6393. Wow
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  6394. $690 billion.... Give me $69 million and I could pursue college education forever
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  6395.  @1969cmp  okay?
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  6396.  @MSF8637  that's per year. That's endowments received per year.
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  6397.  @audiojake8  that's messed up.
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  6398. Yep
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  6399. Reading that made me cry.
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  6400.  @Zero-z1m9y  I will remember that.. I'm in college now and seeking to become a sciebce journalist. I will never accept money or a job over my family.
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  6401.  @Zero-z1m9y  Thank you for your advice
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  6402. That would be $28.13 now
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  6403. Raise wages.
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  6404. Their hobby is hating women.
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  6405.  @SilkyLew  true. I do have different hobbies. Hating women hasn't helped me.
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  6406. Reading. Anime. Playing video games are my new hobbies but i don't do anything or go anywhere.
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  6407.  @SilkyLew  you're right. There are comedy club events held almost daily in my city. And bars, festivals, movie gatherings.
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  6408. My own prison is self- imposed.
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  6409. The real reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  6410. A 3rd world country. I have Medicaid and no food stamps
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  6411. DING DING DING.
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  6412. Right answer. If welfare was robust, nobody would accept wage slavery.
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  6413. ​​ @jollyjohnthepirate3168 yep
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  6414. Have control over others to do society's dirty work
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  6415. Isn't that circular logic?
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  6416. But women can get laid more easily
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  6417. Correct.
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  6418. What conservatives believe is that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  6419. Ok? Poverty is still wrong.
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  6420.  @dataphoenix8004  That's what you aren't getting: he doesn't believe poor people deserve to have a living wage. So to answer your question yes.
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  6421. Wtf.
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  6422. ​ @jefferykeith4527 not everyone can work their way up from minimum wage.
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  6423. @PerceivedReality  thank you. One day, you'll see me on tv, I promise.
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  6424. @PerceivedReality  I believe fighting poverty is about priorities. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. Doctors can refuse to make $10/hr. Cashiers can't. Not on their own. They can collectively. It's a policy choice to allow this power differential because unions alone prove it. Corporations are more concerned in fighting against worker solidarity than against poverty(of their employees).
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  6425.  @g_man2177  it isn't about money, I just don't know why people expect the poor to suffer endlessly to get a living wage but rich people get trillions without working at all.
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  6426. I qualify for Medicaid but I don't have kids.
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  6427. I have no disabilities either.
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  6428. I go to college though and schools don't offer health insurance.
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  6429. What's even worse is that many people make MORE money receiving food stamps and unemployment working part-time, versus working full time and not receiving assistance.
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  6430.  @hartubmoses6645  my freaking replies are deleted
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  6431. That's messed up.
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  6432. Not if the workers are lazy
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  6433. Because you and Ana fail to see the real reason conservatives oppose welfare: because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If they don't have robust social programs to fall back on, then poor people are forced to work for whatever wages they can get.
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  6434. I don't blame women for me being a virgin. I blame myself.
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  6435.  @biljam972  I didn't think about it like that
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  6436.  @biljam972  I'm also a virgin, so I don't understand sex.
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  6437.  @biljam972  I guess having sex will not solve loneliness
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  6438. I don't despise women.
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  6439.  @dinimueter539  thank you brother:)
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  6440. That's evil.
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  6441. I had health insurance because I received premium tax credits because I was poor. But Medicaid was expanded, and I was forced onto thet
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  6442. So basically slave wages for the employers.
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  6443. Because many people believe that these jobs that pay such low wages deserve it. Do you know how many people I've run across that believes paying a McDonald's cashier 32k is tantamount to rape? "Flipping burgers."
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  6444. To force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  6445. Me too.
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  6446. Wow
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  6447. That would destroy wealth...
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  6448.  @IntensePeppers  what would happen if USA only taxed income and properties?
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  6449. Because the news ignores poor people.
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  6450. It's about the cruelty
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  6451. That's the reality, yes.
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  6452. I was floored when one woman said she made ninety-five thousand dollars a month. A MONTH. And she expects men to make the same as that? If she made that much every month, that's over a million dollars a year. Even heart surgeons don't make that much.
    1
  6453.  @hhiippiittyy  I'd make it $1 million a year.
    1
  6454. Yes. It's messed up.
    1
  6455. I lost federal Pell grants after my mom became terminally Ill and even though she passed away and I temporarily became homeless and starving, my pell grants wasn't reinstated.
    1
  6456. And with my academic record I've decided to quit school
    1
  6457. Crazy.
    1
  6458. Wow
    1
  6459. The rich want desperate workers and poverty
    1
  6460. @dand3975  times have changed and many people need minimum wage jobs to live on.
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  6461.  @dand3975  yes. They should get college paid for completely. Nobody should be punished for wanting an education and to do better for themselves. Take me, I'm in community college on welfare. I lost my mom, now I'm in poverty while pursuing community college in hopes of transferring to university.
    1
  6462. If the workers are poor. Republicans love the rich and hate the poor.
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  6463. Correct
    1
  6464.  @ryanhurt2813  you need to pay for housing while doing a side hustle. And healthcare. That's something your job should provide you
    1
  6465. Yep.
    1
  6466. Ok
    1
  6467.  @maylani3697  he believes in just-world fallacy. He refuses to acknowledge systemic problems.
    1
  6468. Do you believe women deserve to vote?
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  6469.  @middleguy1776  because women's suffrage is the same thing as poverty: a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity. Just as we structure our society around women being entitled to voting, we can structure our society around all workers being entitled to a living wage. So if you support women being able to vote but not a living wage minimum wage then you're not making any sense, because both are within society's control.
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  6470.  @middleguy1776  except it isn't agreed upon. Workers have too little bargaining power. Women voting is within society's control, just like what we set the minimum wage at. So we can have a living wage, we choose not to. You need someone or something to speak on behalf of the workers. If workers had enough power like you claim, the government would have no reason to invest in FLSA, civil court cases, labor disputes, nothing. What I'm arguing for is not communism. Paying people a living wage is not the same as paying everyone the same wage. Ensuring everyone makes $15/hr is not the same as saying doctors and janitors will make the same.
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  6471.  @middleguy1776  there are not enough high paying jobs for everyone to move up to. Not everyone can afford to obtain a college degree. I desire to be an astrophysicist. Tell me, I'm supposed to survive on 7.25/hr until then? PLUS go to school? Both full-time?
    1
  6472. That's disgusting.
    1
  6473. Exactly ​ @avilesnba 
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  6474. Lol.
    1
  6475. When it comes to the poor.
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  6476. Yep
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  6477. That's a problem with low-paying jobs, no job has to pay so little
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  6478. I refuse to let someone be mired in poverty because they have some arbitrarily named "entry level job." there's an inequality of bargaining power especially when it comes to unskilled workers so you need the government to intervene on the employee's behalf.
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  6479. Doesn't work.
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  6480. I enjoy anime. Video games. Astrophysics. And reading. And watching movies. I have a personality but women still reject me
    1
  6481.  @PraiseTheFSMonster  okay....im not hateful...
    1
  6482. I'm doing all of those things and I'm still a Virgin
    1
  6483. Wrong.
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  6484. Fucked up
    1
  6485. I'm poor myself.
    1
  6486. Your answer is correct
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  6487. I can't see my replies
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  6488.  @TheOleHermit  okay.
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  6489.  @michaelkmiec5842  yes I'm very poor.
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  6490. That made me cry.
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  6491.  @HarpMuse  beautiful you got through it. I just get pissed at how greedy corporations are.
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  6492. Not everyone can be promoted to management. Minimum wage jobs don't give you skills.
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  6493. It isn't.
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  6494. All priorities are not created equal.
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  6495. How should the aca have happened?
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  6496. I can't view my replies
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  6497. Yep
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  6498. No
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  6499. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. I'm in poverty
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  6500. Yep. And tax corporations with welfare recipients 5x welfare costs.
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  6501. Fuck this country for shaming poor people for wanting more money but applaud corporations for wanting the same thing.
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  6502. Gotta keep people dumb
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  6503. Not everyone can afford to do that.
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  6504. Ok I'm incel virgin
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  6505. To perpetuate poverty
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  6506. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once
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  6507. ​ @raymonds.9021  Thank you.
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  6508. Because they don't offer genuine affection.
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  6509. You're saying you won't accept inflation to combat poverty.
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  6510. I don't hate women
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  6511. Poor people because republicans believe being poor is a moral failing.
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  6512. Usa loves poverty. It's as simple as that.
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  6513. Sounds like just-world fallacy to me.
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  6514. If we can spend trillions of dollars on health insurance subsidies, then we can abolish poverty. It's about priorities.
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  6515.  @glaoak1787  because not everyone can increase their skills.
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  6516.  @AntiKaren_Karen  I made $10.50/hr as a cashier with no health insurance.
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  6517. ​ @vp2718 because those people believe in just world fallacy. They believe poor people don't work hard enough to escape poverty
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  6518. Millions of people work at walmart as a career, it's not a transitional job.
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  6519. We could replace welfare with UBI.
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  6520. Pay off mortgages? Based.
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  6521. I'm 28. I've never dated, held hands, hugged, kissed, or had sex.
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  6522. Corporate welfare hard at work.
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  6523. Correct.
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  6524. I hate the government for keeping me in poverty. 1. Government opposes a living wage but provides financial assistance for me because I don't make enough money to live, and I get criticized for being on welfare. 2. I don't get financial aid for being poor in it of itself. 3. I've maxed out financial aid appeals. 4. I can't get financial aid again until I pay 67% of my degree out of pocket. Imagine denying a loan for cashier wanting to buy a Lamborghini, then approving the loan if he/she can pay 67% the cost of a Lamborghini OUT OF POCKET. News flash: if you can come up with enough cash to pay 67% the cost of a sports car in a few weeks, YOU DON'T NEED A LOAN TO PAY THE REST. OR A LOAN AT ALL. 5. Pell grants don't cover entire cost of college 6. Scholarships can pay for my college, but I'm not guaranteed any scholarship money, let alone enough for a full ride. Say, $1 million.
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  6525.  @Khalkara  wow.
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  6526. Times have changed.
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  6527. it's always rich people being asked about the minimum wage. Why not POOR PEOPLE?
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  6528.  @resq717  I guess. That's sad.
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  6529.  @resq717  I mean, I'd volunteer. But LOL Fox News only listens to CEOs and billionaires.
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  6530.  @resq717  yeah. But also mainstream media is run by rich people, they don't care about the poor.
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  6531. If they did, they'd lose their billionaire sponsors.
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  6532. You can't be impartial in politics
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  6533.  @ST-lm9bh  yes. The YouTube filter system sucked. What did you say in your reply?
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  6534.  @davidmirasol8762  would you look down on a man who uses a hooker to lose his virginity?
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  6535. ​ @davidmirasol8762  it still isn't intimacy
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  6536. They believe unskilled workers deserve poverty
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  6537. Because rich people in the US don't want poor people in college
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  6538. Biden can fix that through executive order as well.
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  6539. You can't enforce banning poor women from having sex or kids.
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  6540. Yep
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  6541.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  You are aware most of food stamp recipients are working people, right? they've made no wrong decision since they're already contributing to society. How about you blame greedy corporations for refusing to pay more for American labor.
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  6542. Damn
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  6543. Too bad republicans are heartless bastards.
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  6544. he's being dumb.
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  6545. Medicaid is inefficient and people don't want poor people having free healthcare.
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  6546. Wow.
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  6547. Charity can't replace welfare.
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  6548. Damn. He'd be speechless.
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  6549. but people do live on minimum wage. Times change.
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  6550. Usa can but it won't.
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  6551.  @thadoc5186  you can still mandate a higher minimum wage.
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  6552.  @thadoc5186  not all low skill workers can be promoted.
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  6553.  @thadoc5186  have you seen the cost of college
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  6554. Inflation won't happen.
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  6555. ​@Cassady that doesn't classify everyone.
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  6556. ​ @bane3991  poverty level.
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  6557.  @bane3991  what? By humans?
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  6558. @Bane  supply and demand. But markets are created and structured by humans, not just businesses, but the government. Just as corporations have to follow bankruptcy laws, tax laws, and labor laws, it could be made a law to not have workers on government assistance either.
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  6559.  @bane3991  I'd tax corporations 2x-5x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits.
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  6560. @Bane  1. this is about economics to an extent, but my argument is more so on ideology: it's about what forms of deprivation I find unacceptable. 2. If the working poor was seen as unacceptable like women being deprived of voting is, we'd accept whatever consequences in fighting against poverty. 3. We are opposed to dealing with these consequences. 4. Therefore, business owners do not truly believe poverty is wrong. 5. Inflation and unemployment are the risks associated with workers gaining more bargaining power. 6. It can be made a law for corporations to not jack up prices as well. Or make it simpler: tax corporations for price gouging, then jack up the tax amount in proportion to their profits, bankrupting them. If that's what has to be done to fight against businesses impoverishing their workers, then so be it
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  6561. @Bane  people are fighting tooth and nail for a living wage minimum wage and unions because corporations refuse to pay more for American labor. It's wrong morally and logically. Doctors don't fight for a higher minimum wage because they make enough to not need food stamps or Medicaid. News flash, if corporations paid people enough to not need welfare, then they wouldn't need welfare, like doctors. Workers wouldn't need to raise the minimum wage or create unions in the first place.
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  6562. @Bane  1. Our lower class is the upper class of the world - the fallacy of relative privation. 2. Usa is wealthy enough to end poverty. It is simply not among our priorities. 3. It is not about incentivizing laziness: rich people make enough to not work, via a guaranteed income from stocks and real estate, but still do anyway. But when poor people want anything similar, it's laziness. The double standard is appalling. 4. The real political problem with a guaranteed income for the poor isn't the costs, but the benefits: nobody would work shitty minimum wage jobs. Nobody would work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement. Nobody would accept what most employers are offering: below cost of living wages and no affordable health insurance. 5. I am saying the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. And it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that America finds unacceptable. 6. Enabling workers to have more bargaining power is deemed as a policy emergency, not relief. 7. Politicians and corporations use the whip of poverty, not higher salaries, to keep workers in place.
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  6563.  @bane3991  your profile picture is bane: here is something i realized. 1. Jfk once said "Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country." He is implying in this statement that truth to our values lies in what we are fine with doing. 2. Watching movies, i realized this isn't true. Conflict stems not from what people ARE willing to do, but what they are OPPOSED to doing. 3. The real reason conflict happens in movies, is the same as in real life: that people are not willing to do everything. 4. The truth of our values, like with superheroes, lies in the risks we refuse to take, the prices we are unwilling to pay, the consequences we do not like to tolerate. Part 2 1. Look at how americans reacted to workers gaining more bargianing power because of this pandemic: they hated inflation, unemployment, businesses shutting down, increases in the deficit, etc. 2. This reveals not america's love of poverty but rather their opposition to the inconveniences which would accompany poverty's elimination. 3. The truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that America finds unacceptable. America finds worker solidarity unacceptable. Not the fact that workers are in poverty from low wages.
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  6564. He's a rich prick
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  6565.  @Lili-xq9sn  who buy politicians, but yes. The real political problem with robust welfare support programs isn't the costs but the benefits. Nobody would work shitty minimum wage jobs anymore.
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  6566.  @Lili-xq9sn  I know. But lobbying reveals their priorities. Kamala Harris would not accept $1 billion to deny women voting/repeal the 19th amendment. Nor would she accept any politician who does accept the money.
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  6567. That's messed up....
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  6568. Everyone cannot get a better job
    1
  6569. Exactly
    1
  6570. Yep.
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  6571. ​ @winsfairclough9844 lol
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  6572.  @rossclark704  why is $30/hr bad?
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  6573.  @rossclark704  I don't think it has anything to do with lack of money on corporations part, it's about workers having enough power. If we spend a trillion a year on welfare for the poor, and corporations make more than a trillion per year couldn't they cover this gap?
    1
  6574. Ok
    1
  6575. Yes
    1
  6576. I'm an incel. At 28 I've never kissed, dated, held hands or had sex. I'm unhappy every day.
    1
  6577.  @Thatguyjack758  I don't think I should give up on my life.
    1
  6578. ​ @angellight5040 yep
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  6579. Except not everyone has the same version of a utopia.
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  6580.  @Massivedumps  because when people say a better place, that's usually what they envision.
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  6581.  @miskatonic_alumni  why don't you believe a utopia is possible?
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  6582.  @miskatonic_alumni  I believe a utopia is possible.
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  6583. @traviswall1982  I believe a utopia is possible: the 2 sources of conflict for politics: scarcity and ideology. Either eliminate scarcity or everyone has the same values, and a utopia will be created.
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  6584. Women have it easier.
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  6585. ​@jeanroger4738 that's all true.
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  6586. I meant as far as sex goes. If men/incels could get laid so easily incels wouldn't exist nor would prostitution. ​@jeanroger4738
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  6587. ​ @Incel_81 I know I'm a loser.
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  6588. ​@i10i60 that's worse than I originally thought. I'm 29 and a virgin. I want to use a hooker to solve this, but I'm broke, and such sex is unfulfilling.
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  6589. ​ @Incel_81 ok
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  6590. ​ @Incel_81  why am I a loser?
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  6591.  @Incel_81  okay I will
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  6592. Then you want poverty. You're more concerned about empowering businesses with cheap labor than empowering poor people to reject wage slavery
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  6593.  @betunia98  thank you.
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  6594.  @Q_from_Star_Trek  lol.
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  6595.  @johnnybgood1169  Iol...
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  6596.  @brandonm949  so that means even if 45/hr passed the minimum wage would STILL be stuck at 7.25/hr??
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  6597. I don't vote at all
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  6598. I'm a kissless virgin at 29.
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  6599. I'm still one
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  6600.  @balonitoni999  I've asked myself why. I mainly realized I don't socialize with women enough.
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  6601.  @balonitoni999  amazing! I'll go to the gym twice a week and work on my abs. Go clothes shopping at men's warehouse. I'll also go to these events this month: Comedy Club baseball game Musical Play
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  6602. Same.
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  6603. You're correct.
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  6604.  @cookiebatter162  okay I'll stop
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  6605. He believes the jobs "should" only be filled by teenagers.
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  6606. ​ @uncomfortabletruth3831 exactly
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  6607. Yep
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  6608. ​ @imnotmike exactly
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  6609. Idk
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  6610. Yep.
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  6611. Minimum wage should be $44.
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  6612. That's crazy
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  6613. That's why there's government intervention and unions, because worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once.
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  6614. They are weak in USA.
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  6615. Everyone cannot do that
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  6616. Just because a job is unskilled doesn't mean it has to pay so little. And if people were paid based on the profits they sell cashiers at Chick-fil-A would make around $100,000 a year. It's not possible for you to get an education if you are already drowning and bills, living paycheck-to-paycheck on top of working a menial Labor job over 40 hours a week.
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  6617. No amount of working at minimum wage is going to pay you enough to afford a college degree now.
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  6618. That's deep.
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  6619.  @luluszahir  so I could get laid with lower standards?
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  6620.  @KailyKail  So because something hasn't existed before it can't exist now? According to that logic women don't deserve to vote. Since they didn't have that right until 1918.
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  6621.  @BikkeRiderX  Exactly.
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  6622. Kind of. She did kill someone but the relative of the victim settled for money.
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  6623. So no criminal charges but she got civil charges.
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  6624. Exactly.
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  6625. That's messed up.
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  6626. Oh
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  6627. Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills
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  6628. Epic.
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  6629. If jobs paid living wages ubi wouldn't be competing with anything.
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  6630. It's depressing. Imagine if they treated crime like poverty: that it takes a day off. Have cops work 9 to 5, Monday through Friday.
    1
  6631. Yep.
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  6632.  @kirglow4639  ah I see.
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  6633. @Mongoose-ct6us  I agree. The difference between ubi and gmi(guaranteed minimum income) is that the latter provides money only to the poor(without work requirements) and phases out as they financially rise to the middle class. Both are affordable, and I'm torn on which one is better.
    1
  6634. $100 sounds good.
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  6635. Community college isn't free(it was included in the bill).
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  6636. ​ @theymademepickaname1248 yes
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  6637.  @MalcolmRandall  I sure am jealous. I think my life is even more worthless now
    1
  6638. ​ @2vexy holy crap. I don't get notifications either
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  6639. He doesn't read the comments. Also, no minimum wage worker in any country can afford a house and family.
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  6640. That's messed up, but I know since my brother is autistic.
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  6641. Hookers won't help incels because hookers don't offer intimacy.
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  6642. It's disgusting.
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  6643. Star Trek society is a communist and equal society. Albeit they have matter replicators to eliminate scarcity
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  6644. Politicians want poverty to exist.
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  6645. Exactly.
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  6646. The real reason is poverty is a feature of USA. Conservatives oppose welfare and ubi for they destroy work incentive, by what is actually meant is the incentive of the poor to do the needed dirty work when the wage from work is smaller than the government grant
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  6647. same.
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  6648. ​​ @graceamelia4840 states can pay less than $7.25/hr if they pay the employee on the backend or the worker is exempt.
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  6649. ​ @amberdaulton7976  I'm glad you are better
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  6650. ​ @amberdaulton7976 I'm sorry you went through that.
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  6651. I want corporations to be taxed 5x the amount their employees used in welfare benefits.
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  6652. Destroy their company.
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  6653. I'm an incel not a nice guy.
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  6654. K
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  6655.  @liraloo  that's messed up
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  6656. The reason they don't want to remove welfare restrictions is because nobody would accept minimum wage jobs.
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  6657.  @michaelcsteffens  that's messed up.
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  6658. Except politicians already know this but hate welfare anyway. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  6659. Trump believes poor and disabled people don't deserve to be educated
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  6660. That's crazy
    1
  6661. Yes. They want people to be poor.
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  6662. ​ @antonioiniguez1615 you're heartless.
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  6663. ​ @lakersfansince1991 wow
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  6664. Because those people in just-world fallacy
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  6665. You can't buy intimacy. Prostitution does not solve loneliness.
    1
  6666.  @staubsauger2305  okay
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  6667. That's messed up.
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  6668. Poverty forces desperation.
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  6669. DeSantis hates welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  6670. Rofl
    1
  6671. To force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs
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  6672. ​ @always_markb ok
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  6673. @maxkrystal7403  yes. But my point is politicians don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
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  6674. Everyone cannot obtain senior level positions
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  6675. When profits go up, wages would go up if corporations paid workers based on profit sharing.
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  6676. You're right
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  6677. Welfare pays more than minimum wage jobs, so poor people have no financial pressure to work them. politicians restrict welfare with work requirements in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs and drop out of school.
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  6678. Rofl
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  6679.  @Adam-zy9fv  There is no way to quantify the individual contribution any CEO, or any other worker for that matter, contributes to the financial performance of the company.
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  6680.  @Adam-zy9fv  you make what you negotiate and due to inequality of bargaining power many people make far less than they negotiated.
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  6681. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  6682.  @gs2484  Herbert gans wrote an essay where he outlines that poverty persists because people actually don't want poverty to end.
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  6683.  @gs2484  Herbert gans theorized that poverty persists because it serves 13 functions, or roles, within American society. The first, and biggest function of poverty, is to ensure society's dirty work gets done. Nobody does minimum wage jobs if everyone is rich or skilled(billionaire or doctor). Therefore, rich people have a vested interest in ensuring everyone cannot obtain these things. So poverty is maintained to force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs: by opposing a living wage, by destroying unions, by gutting welfare, etc. anything that gives poor people the power to fight against corporations is destroyed by the rich and powerful for this exact reason.
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  6684.  @gs2484  the obvious solution to end this function of poverty is to pay more for minimum wage jobs than skilled jobs. But this is opposed to both ideology and economics, meaning Americans want minimum wage jobs to be right where they are now: low paying, dead end, and undignified. Also rich people want poverty to exist to feel superior.
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  6685. ​ @gs2484 you're welcome
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  6686. The way FAFSA works poorer kids have a harder time getting financial aid than the rich.
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  6687. The point is the cruelty.
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  6688. ​ @nazikiwe8259 yes
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  6689. Keep workers part time. As a cashier, I make $10/hr and forced to work 28 hours a week so I'm deprived of benefits like health insurance.
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  6690. Yep
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  6691. Yep.
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  6692. Places like Chic fil a make enough to pay its cashiers $100,000 a year.
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  6693.  @rodneykiehne5212  wow
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  6694. ​@thelonercoder5816 it's to fuel survivorship bias.
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  6695. Money is a part of politics. Poor people deserve a voice too.
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  6696. Nice.
    1
  6697. That's messed up.
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  6698. You can thank buying into the Myth of meritocracy for that.
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  6699. Okay
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  6700. i'm a guy. I'm a kissless virgin at 29. I do have to stop being lazy and scared of women. I want to lose my virginity before i turn 30.
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  6701.  @Filosofuerza  which can all be accounted for? And you didn't answer the question
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  6702. Yep.
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  6703. I don't vote as a poor person
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  6704. Because conservatives judge people by skills. They believe unskilled workers deserve poverty
    1
  6705. Universal basic income
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  6706. I'm a cashier at a grocery store. I make $10/hr. I did the math...at the $18.95 "living wage" 90 hr wks I'd make $113,000/yr...... I'd get fired day one.
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  6707. Wow.
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  6708. Republicans are willing to pay MORE as long as they get to see people they don't like suffer: which are mostly minorities and the poor.
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  6709. 15 hours a week? Then most of this country is in deep poverty.
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  6710. Your taxes aren't increasing. Just be honest: this is a moral issue to you, not economic: you don't believe poor people deserve government aid.
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  6711. ​ @myleslong5584 EXACTLY.
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  6712.  @russellward4624  that too.
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  6713. Wtf
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  6714. ​@drummerrck they're not clueless, they're uncaring.
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  6715. ​ @alfr1 corporations wanting more is good But poor people wanting more money is bad. Got it
    1
  6716. Yes.
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  6717. It's called just-world fallacy.
    1
  6718.  @kk-wh3hb  poverty is like women's suffrage: a policy choice
    1
  6719. Exactly.
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  6720. Yep
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  6721. Calvinism buddy.
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  6722. People believe in Calvinism.
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  6723. It's also why businesses keep wages DOWN.
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  6724. ​ @goatfromhell666 ROFL
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  6725.  @dominicfucinari1942  so you agree with me? And yes.
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  6726.  @user-wi3yx3gy2o  it's about control
    1
  6727. Correct.
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  6728. Ok
    1
  6729. Blame inflation
    1
  6730. Working minimum wage.
    1
  6731. Just-world fallacy.
    1
  6732. Wow​ @plumbbobconstructionpants5599 
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  6733. ​ @ricardobarahona3939 yes
    1
  6734. Define amazing wages? And being a cashier is a dead end job, so it doesn't give you skills to command a higher wage.
    1
  6735. How the fuck
    1
  6736. ​ @SunnyinFlorida ok
    1
  6737. I lost medicaid at 26 because I'm able-bodied.
    1
  6738. Test.
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  6739.  @FatherElectric  you can't, unfortunately.
    1
  6740. Yep
    1
  6741. Yep
    1
  6742. That's the point.
    1
  6743. Nikki..
    1
  6744. Wrong
    1
  6745. lol
    1
  6746. I will believe gun ownership is unneccessary when the POTUS and Vice President's Secret Service detail give up their firearms like they expect everyday citizens to do.
    1
  6747.  @etopsch369  yep.
    1
  6748.  @etopsch369  the wars in the Middle East totaled $4.5 trillion.
    1
  6749. Yep.
    1
  6750. They don't judge the economy by how the poor are doing.
    1
  6751. Wrong. There are part-time workers.
    1
  6752. Ok.
    1
  6753. If the top 50% pay 97% of income taxes that's WAY TOO MUCH F*CKING MONEY AT THE TOP
    1
  6754. Ha.
    1
  6755. Exactly.
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  6756. a job is not reflective of a person's intelligence.
    1
  6757.  @destinal_in_reality  then the business model is wrong.
    1
  6758.  @destinal_in_reality  what?
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  6759.  @destinal_in_reality  what is "natural" to you? Markets don't exist without government intervention. There are countless regulations that allow businesses to operate in the first place. Where do you draw the line over what's the "natural order of things?"
    1
  6760.  @destinal_in_reality  intellectual property, laws concerning acquisitions and mergers, bankruptcy laws, etc. All of these things structure markets. If intellectual property laws didn't exist(or weren't widely enforced) Microsoft would go bankrupt. As would many other industries.
    1
  6761. That's messed up.
    1
  6762. I don't have a car. At 29
    1
  6763. Because they want to depress the wages of their workers.
    1
  6764. Because it's not about economics, it's about ideology: many Republicans believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors wanted to make fifteen dollars an hour, these same republicans would raise the minimum wage to $80/hr then.
    1
  6765. Correct.
    1
  6766. Yep.
    1
  6767. Corporations want cheap labor through immigration.
    1
  6768. It's also why conservatives oppose welfare.
    1
  6769.  @jKLa  conservatives like trump want to cut welfare and increase work requirements. They DO hate welfare: Poor people will refuse wage slavery if they have government assistance. The money earned from low wage work is smaller than the government grant/welfare(medicaid, food stamps, etc.). Even more so with hypothetical welfare (negative income tax, universal basic income, family assistance plan).
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  6770.  @jKLa  corporations want to depress wages of poor people to force them to accept minimum wage jobs. Corporations can't do this when welfare pays more than work without restrictions. It's like wondering why doctors don't use food stamps.
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  6771.  @jKLa  I can't post comments they always get deleted. I hope you read them.
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  6772.  @jKLa  unfair point: conflict comes from inequality. Women are considered equal to men, but for some reason we don't want equality anywhere else.
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  6773. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country My mom died in sickness and poverty, and medicaid was expanded after her death. I lost section 8 housing and food stamps, leaving me homeless and starving if not for my dad taking me in. And news ignores the poor. I will never forgive this country for causing her death.
    1
  6774. ​ @thesuperostrich yep.
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  6775. The poverty line is kept artificially low..that has nothing to do with minimum wage. People are paid based on skill, not productivity, which causes these workers to be underpaid.
    1
  6776. I agree
    1
  6777. You can't force women to not have kids.
    1
  6778.  @josiesmith3982  that doesn't change what I said.
    1
  6779. Beautiful ​ @JamesLacroixx 
    1
  6780. Because only the rich and corporations are "worthy" of being subsidized.
    1
  6781.  @lutherheggs  why am I a virgin at 28?
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  6782. ​ @raidenshogun6013 I'm here. I've not been getting notifications lately. Why am I a virgin at 28? Because getting laid is impossible for me. I've tried a long time to get laid. I've never kissed, hugged, held hands, or dated
    1
  6783. ​ @raidenshogun6013 now I'm 29 and STILL a virgin.
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  6784. My life sucks​ @raidenshogun6013 
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  6785. ​ @raidenshogun6013 I have less than 40 days left before I turn 30. I'm still a virgin.
    1
  6786. Survivorship bias.
    1
  6787. Exactly!!!!
    1
  6788. Yep.
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  6789. Yep.
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  6790. College is an investment for society. You're paying for poverty either way.
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  6791. Yes I'm fine with my taxes paying for everything you mentioned. Trade schools aren't free and Noone low income can afford that $18,000 bill. And jobs filter based on bachelor's degrees.
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  6792. There aren't enough scholarships for all poor people to go to college. And STEM fields don't receive enough funding anyway. There are about 10 college STEM field graduates for every 1 job opening. Not to mention getting into academia requires years if not decades of additional postdoc experience after getting a PhD.
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  6793.  @LetsGetitBoah  I'm aware. That doesn't change what I said. You pay for poverty either way. I'd rather fund affordable college so the poor can get better jobs rather than locking them out of college and into dead-end minimum wage jobs. States used to cover 90-95% of the cost of college. Now it's mostly on the students.
    1
  6794.  @LetsGetitBoah  that's cool.
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  6795.  @LetsGetitBoah  community colleges are not free here in NC nor are they cheap. And not everyone wants to be an electrician. I also don't think corporations are going to take on the expense of training people for aerospace engineering or mathematics-many of whom have PhDs.
    1
  6796.  @LetsGetitBoah  workers pay over ten trillion a year in taxes. If that's not fair share to you i don't know what is.
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  6797.  @LetsGetitBoah  they don't need to pay more. I'm aware not all will go to college. Your IT example-you're relying on an organization to assist you. That is no different than relying on the government. If you give you the government money, which we do, then we expect that money to be put to use.
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  6798. ​ @Filthy_Larry George wanted control.
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  6799. Yep.
    1
  6800. Right
    1
  6801. It's no different than the mindset of a rapist.
    1
  6802. Wow
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  6803. Politicians don't want to end poverty because then poor people like myself refuse minimum wage jobs
    1
  6804. Thank you.
    1
  6805. Yep.
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  6806. With just a 4% inflation rate. A minimum wage now is $42/hr.
    1
  6807. ​@xibalbalon8668the disgusting irony
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  6808. I agree. I was a cashier making $10.50/hr. I made less than $500 every two weeks. As an intern, I made $900 for a whole semester BEFORE taxes.
    1
  6809. My Goals to increase my skills are earn a full ride scholarship, get 2 physics degrees: community college, transfer, then get a bachelor's degree at a 4 year university.
    1
  6810. I wanted to be a tv reporter/science journalist. They pay well and don't require a degree.
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  6811. ​ @charliekowittmusic exactly.
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  6812. ​ @angelmendez2211 wow.
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  6813. It's called just-world fallacy.
    1
  6814. Thank you.
    1
  6815. Because poverty is needed in order to make wage slavery work.
    1
  6816. ​ @charlescraycraft9972 exactly
    1
  6817. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  6818.  @hunnybadger442  no. Republicans believe in just world fallacy. I do not. I see through their bullshit rhetoric of accepting society as is.
    1
  6819. What?
    1
  6820. They understand that. they don't want to attract women they want control
    1
  6821.  @Jotinko  about which parts?
    1
  6822. ​ @Jotinko ok.
    1
  6823. If this is real that's hysterical.
    1
  6824. hidden? you mean Noir deleted it? @devildog1989 
    1
  6825. Yes
    1
  6826. ​ @berylkimitei6744 ok
    1
  6827. Blame corporations who want slave labor through illegal Immigration. The system is the problem.
    1
  6828. Lol. Same here.
    1
  6829. Yep.
    1
  6830. Not real affection
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  6831.  @skylinefever  so how do I lose my virginity then? I am 29. I'm out of options.
    1
  6832.  @skylinefever  that's basically prostitution.
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  6833.  @skylinefever  you're saying I must resort to prostitution
    1
  6834. ​ @biohz8445 times have changed. Those jobs are filled by adults now.
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  6835. They didn't really want sex, they wanted status.
    1
  6836. You're right.
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  6837. Yep
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  6838. Because republicans want poverty to exist. They treat rising worker power as a policy disaster, not relief. And republicans use the whip of poverty, not the lure of higher wages, as the appropriate response.
    1
  6839. Wow.
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  6840. I'm in poverty despite being involved in education, employment and training all at once. Screw this country.
    1
  6841. Ok.
    1
  6842. They subscribe to survivorship bias.
    1
  6843. Even worse
    1
  6844. Yes.
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  6845. I don't understand why politicians want minimum wage jobs to exist but also want the workers to be in poverty from said jobs. But at the same time complain about funding welfare.
    1
  6846. Thune knows he's just lying.
    1
  6847. LOL.
    1
  6848. Just-world fallacy.
    1
  6849. Wow.
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  6850. McDonald's workers could make $100,000 a year.
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  6851. Hobbies? I work as a cashier at a supermarket. I make $10/hr. I make $46 a day and it costs $50 to take a cab to/from there. So I don't make enough to even show up.
    1
  6852.  @waynejohanson1083  if only.
    1
  6853. Jon Stewart makes CNN. MSNBC. AND FOX look like the Michael Phelps of shit.
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  6854.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  You shouldn't have to do that.
    1
  6855.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  how do you determine what someone is worth? Even if you could you pay someone far less than that if you are free to ignore their requests.
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  6856.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  No McDonald's job gives you a raise like you claim. Your wages are fixed and low no matter how long or hard you work.
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  6857.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  if you think any mcds job pays anywhere near a living wage if you simply work hard enough you are mistaken. And What a position is worth is a matter of perspective.
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  6858.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  While many people make above minimum wage, most make below a living wage.
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  6859.  jon pork  how does that change what i said. No cashier can negotiate for higher pay.
    1
  6860.  jon pork  Because they can't.... How is that a hard concept to understand.
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  6861.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  So you are agreeing with me. Cashiers, at their current level, they have insufficient negotiating power.
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  6862.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  that doesn't make janitors less valuable.
    1
  6863.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  Like I said earlier, if a pharmaceutical company makes $5 billion, then that is $5 billion. If a fast food place makes $5 billion, then that is $5 billion. If any company, regardless of the skills of the jobs, makes $5 billion, then that is $5 billion. If profits were distributed more evenly among companies, low wage workers would make far more, they're worth far more than what they are paid because they have too little negotiating power. And CEOs are worth far less than what they are paid because they have too much.
    1
  6864.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  so because anyone can become a fry cook, the job is worth less than a CEO? Without the employees, the business doesn't function skill or skill. If the workers were collectively worthless like what you claim, no business would employ them.
    1
  6865.  I only use this account when I get put in time out and without those fry cooks collectively the CEO makes nothing.
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  6866.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  you're treating burger flippers like they're rapists.
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  6867.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  you don't even know what my job is you're just attacking poor people.
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  6868.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  stress and responsibility are subjective and isn't why you are paid anyway.
    1
  6869.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  So you're admitting noone would work for low wage/shitty jobs unless they're forced to.
    1
  6870.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  Why are you acting like it's a bad thing that people don't want to suffer? You're sick.
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  6871.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  Wanting food makes you entitled? LOL. What else makes you entitled? Wanting to be healthy? Alive? Get real.
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  6872.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  given? If you work 40 hours a week that's a basic right. You can't be happy some people want money and upset others want the exact same thing.
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  6873.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  if you think I'm terrible because i don't want people to suffer then i don't know what else to tell you.
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  6874. Hahaha
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  6875. Insurance companies rip off people.
    1
  6876. Lolol
    1
  6877. ​ @imnotmike rich people want wage slaves
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  6878. Conservatives lack empathy, they cannot understand the pain of poverty.
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  6879. And making billions a year.
    1
  6880. I need a car because I'm 29 and community college campus is way too far away
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  6881. Conservatives believe Minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
    1
  6882. ​ @jam6876 exactly
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  6883.  @TheDivayenta  I wish American politicians thought like you. By the way, I equate poverty to women's suffrage. Poverty is a policy decision, just like giving women the right to vote. If we truly cared about ending poverty then we would suffer any consequence to do so. We suffer consequences when giving women freedom but we have a fundamental belief women deserve autonomy so we are willing to suffer these consequences. We are unwilling to suffer the consequences for ending poverty, therefore we do not truly believe in ending poverty.
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  6884. Yep
    1
  6885. Because it's illegal, dangerous, expensive, and unfulfilling.
    1
  6886. Because conservatives believe in just-world fallacy. It's the cornerstone of republicanism.
    1
  6887. 3 homes? Paid for? LOL I'd need to $500k a year to afford ONE home.
    1
  6888. Yep.
    1
  6889. They don't want unskilled workers making much, they don't care if it helps businesses these people want to keep the economic ladder unchanged
    1
  6890. @tjuyftutjyfudt okay...
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  6891.  @justadult3493  did you mean to say waiters?
    1
  6892. Did you mean to say "what does a ceo do to deserve 100 million?" Or "what does a waiter do to deserve 100k?"
    1
  6893. Republicans are pro slave labor, it's why they support Illegal immigration.
    1
  6894. They are
    1
  6895. Wow.
    1
  6896. Dumb.
    1
  6897. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  6898. 1. USA prioritizes having lower costs over rising labor power. 2. The government has the power to eradicate poverty with more robust income support programs
    1
  6899. A utopia exists in Star Trek. It is a post scarcity economy.
    1
  6900. I agree.
    1
  6901. Basically the
    1
  6902. Yes
    1
  6903. FurrrrrvleTDO that's evil
    1
  6904. @FurrrrrvleTDO okay. Thanks for letting me know the TRUTH.
    1
  6905. ​ @brandonjade2146 yes.
    1
  6906.  @brantleyerik  jesus
    1
  6907. That's allowing those cheaper areas to tolerate poverty and that's wrong.
    1
  6908. Well if it has to be $25 or $30 or whatever then so be it.
    1
  6909.  @amandaski  NYC would require more than 15/hr. You'd need more than twice that if you're raising children or are a single parent, or both. Not even accounting for healthcare or college costs.
    1
  6910. ​ @adamsmasher9769  exactly
    1
  6911. About control not sex
    1
  6912. ​ @HedgeHermit a hooker is fake
    1
  6913. I'm trying
    1
  6914. The government views disabled people as a burden.
    1
  6915. Yep. This strike is about power and control.
    1
  6916. Because femcels don't exist.
    1
  6917. Republicans believe those jobs are worthy
    1
  6918. I can't afford to move out at 30 years old while in community college because rent is $2k a freaking month for a one bedroom. Plus, rent says your monthly income must be 3x this
    1
  6919. So I need to make $6,000 a month
    1
  6920. Because republicans want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  6921. Exactly.
    1
  6922. Poor people can't afford to run for office
    1
  6923. Good
    1
  6924. No...
    1
  6925. Except wages are controlled by people. We choose to allow poverty like women's suffrage
    1
  6926. Poor people who believe they'll become rich one day.
    1
  6927. Stop shaming poor people.
    1
  6928. It's wrong.
    1
  6929. Republicans don't care. They believe minimum wage workers don't deserve a living wage.
    1
  6930. Hahahahha
    1
  6931. If you're working a job you've already earned that right
    1
  6932.  @jturtle5318  No I am not....
    1
  6933. You aren't supposed to live off of a minimum wage job.
    1
  6934. ​ @gipsiwow  I have 0 standards for women. Yet I'm still a virgin
    1
  6935. Yep
    1
  6936. ​ @nonna_sof5889  exactly.
    1
  6937. It'd give workers too much bargaining power 😊
    1
  6938. Exactly.
    1
  6939. I'm still incel virgin
    1
  6940.  @AMP1987-e3t  right. Shows you how spineless biden is.
    1
  6941.  @jermainemyrn19  yep
    1
  6942. Because they have a faith based worldview. They don't care about facts.
    1
  6943. Exactly.
    1
  6944. In a recent interview on 60 minutes, she said she supports aid but no US troops intervening, letting Israel fight its own war.
    1
  6945. That's messed up
    1
  6946. I made $10.50/hour as a cashier last year at a supermarket. $8.50/hour at McDonald's.
    1
  6947. It's $7.25/hour.
    1
  6948.  @SuperHawk0413  why?
    1
  6949.  @SuperHawk0413  you are wrong
    1
  6950. Ok I'm lazy
    1
  6951. The problem is me
    1
  6952. ​ @serendipity9649 yep.
    1
  6953. Fallacy of relative privation
    1
  6954.  @wyattneuman5168  Yes. I've been thinking morbid thoughts lately and been down.
    1
  6955. @Wyatt Neuman  having to start over in community college, having been lazy for so long, and it's all catching up to me. I'm 28 now. 2014-2015, I went to community college and flunked/dropped out. 2016-2020 I remained a cashier. 2021 i was a NEET. 2022 I returned to community College part-time. 2023 I was able to get accepted into a 4 year university, I did an internship, worked as a cashier, and volunteered all at once. I was still in poverty. I just want things to be easy, really I know I'm just being lazy. It doesn't help I lost my mother May 11th, 2023. So she died with me never having gotten my degree, license, or car. Or having dated. Much less escaped poverty.
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  6956.  @wyattneuman5168  if I hadn't made mistakes, I would've been able to get my associates degree the first time I tried when I was younger. And a driver's license, and car. But now I have to start over at 28.
    1
  6957. @Wyatt Neuman  I desire to be healthy, in shape, have a driver's license, have a car, live on my own , get my associates of science, and then get my bachelor's of science degree. Both of which are physics degrees.
    1
  6958. @Wyatt Neuman  my mentality, having faith in myself. My 2nd biggest obstacle is money: I'm low income, I hope I can earn a full-ride scholarship. A low income student a while back earned $9 million worth of scholarships. That'd be enough for me to focus on school(and afford outrageous Healthcare and housing costs), without having to juggle school and work at once.
    1
  6959. @Wyatt Neuman  Only 2 low income students in the country won over $1 million in scholarships. There are so many poor people such as myself, that just want a financial shot at college. I feel unique but also worthless at once.
    1
  6960.  @wyattneuman5168  i have no skills and no independence at 28. And i'm poor. I desire to finish college, and be independent, but i look at news media and all the reality tv shows, i see dozens of shows/late night talk show hosts interview celebrities and the rich, none interview the poor or struggling college student.
    1
  6961.  @wyattneuman5168  basically I am in no way living the American dream, i would not represent why USA is great according to many Americans.
    1
  6962. @Wyatt Neuman  I consider success finding meaning in helping others. In that sense, I've succeeded now. It's just not important enough to politicians, it seems. I don't think there will ever be a "Jimmy Fallon interview with a cashier."
    1
  6963.  @wyattneuman5168  because many people I've met always talk about wanting money, fame, or sex. Nothing else mattered to them. It made me miserable since that's all I would hear or think about
    1
  6964. I just want life to be easier. I want to survive off a minimum wage job or have a full ride scholarship.
    1
  6965.  @wyattneuman5168  work for a scholarship.
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  6966. ​@Wyatt Neuman hello. My comment got deleted. I apply to 5 scholarships a day. I stick to math, engineering and education based scholarships. I have 2 professional references that I use.
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  6967.  @wyattneuman5168  nothing.. I should get my driver's license, fix up the abandoned car I was gifted, and title it. And should call the radio/tv news media companies for jobs.
    1
  6968.  @wyattneuman5168  I guess you're trying to say I'm not owed anything, I have to work for what I desire.
    1
  6969. @Wyatt Neuman  I'm scared of change. I've been dependent on my family for so long, I've never lived a single day completely independent from them.
    1
  6970. @Wyatt Neuman  the situation is: I want to become a physicist long-term. In the next 5 years, I wish to get a bachelor's degree in physics. To get there, I need an Associate’s degree in physics, then transfer to a 4 year university as a junior, and get my bachelor's degree in physics there. Prior to me returning to school in August, I want to earn scholarships to be able to cover college costs on my own.
    1
  6971. @Wyatt Neuman  no. I'm unemployed. I'm supported financially by my dad. I'm already enrolled in a community College, that's where I need to finish my degree at.
    1
  6972.  @wyattneuman5168  thanks. i've learned to grow up. I'm getting there.
    1
  6973.  @wyattneuman5168  poverty and social isolation. I'm going to school, I'm pursuing a future, but I'm still in poverty. I see so much wealth in this country but so much poverty as well. Shapiro has the nerve to say the working poor doesn't exist.
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  6974. @wyattneuman5168  1. I don't believe Shapiro promotes that at all. 2. He believes minimum wage workers who are adults are failures and deserve poverty. 3. Another hypocrisy is that he supposedly supports the constitution: "right to life." But also argues, "a minimum wage worker isn't entitled to survival." 4.If our society truly thought poverty was terrible, everyone would start out a living wage. Because I assure you, not everyone is as lucky as me- able-bodied, without dependents, without mental health issues or severe injuries. And Shapiro knows not everyone who has those problems gets enough financial assistance to deal with them. Part 2 5. I don't believe anyone deserves to be poor, period. 6. In fact, I support FDRs 2nd bill of rights(look it up). One of which was the right to a living wage.
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  6975. @wyattneuman5168  1. Nobody wants to be poor. Poverty does not result from laziness. 2. Case in point, most poor people on welfare do work, they work jobs that don't pay enough to keep up with of living 3. I'm not arguing against you(or anyone) being a business owner, what I'm arguing against is this nonsensical belief that poor people/workers are lazy, and that is why they need government assistance to survive. It isn't the outrageous cost of housing from corporations buying up homes in cash. It isn't patents and pharmaceutical subsidies that allow big pharma to drive up the cost of healthcare to such high levels only millionaires and billionaires can afford it debt-free. No, it's all on the individual, according to Shapiro. 4. We'll have to disagree on the 2nd bill of rights 5. Going back to point 1- many people can't work full-time or at all. These people don't deserve to be poor either. 6. About 86% of people who don't work are children, students, elderly, and the disabled- people who either can’t or shouldn’t be working. 7. Going to point 7, medicaid disqualifies you if you are ABAWD and if you're in college. That's illogical and immoral to me. So because I'm in college, I don't deserve healthcare? I'm enrolled in school. You can't expect me to do 16 credit hours a semester and still work too! 8. Welfare having work requirements is asinine, because A. You don't need to work to be motivated to escape poverty. Should we have work requirements for victims of kidnapping now? Robbery? B. People lose jobs for all sorts of reasons beyond their control. C. Rich people aren't means tested like the poor. D. Rich people make enough to not work, but still do. Work requirements are a double standard
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  6976. @wyattneuman5168  Ultimately, I'm saying 1. the reason poverty persists in USA isn't due to lack of effort from the poor. 2. Welfare is restricted because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. 3. Many conservatives, like Shapiro, enjoy poverty because they believe it is a form of punishment for the lazy. 4. Rich people receive trillions in inheritance they didn't work for. Then receive trillions more in tax cuts they ALSO didn't work for. ON TOP OF trillions in corporate subsidies. So Giving trillions to the rich for just being rich is fine, but giving trillions to the poor encourages laziness? This double standard is maddening to me.
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  6977. Ok
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  6978. I agree.
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  6979. Yep.
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  6980. Yes, the rich and corporations.
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  6981. 100 sounds good
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  6982. I was on food stamps. I have Medicaid. I need rental assistance.
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  6983. ​ @philipreid2542 exactly
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  6984. I know
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  6985. War is a policy choice.
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  6986. The system is the problem. Student loans exist to serve as a halt to advancement.
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  6987. And disability aid is structured to keep people in poverty.
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  6988. Not enough time get out of poverty, much less permanently.
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  6989. You are correct.
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  6990.  @nyyommm9640  pay someone enough to not be poor. Not need government assistance to survive.
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  6991.  @nyyommm9640  except the route that every worker starts out not being in poverty. Also sounds like just world fallacy.
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  6992. I gained $16,000 in student loans going to a two year community college that I attended part time and flunked out of. Without financial aid, I must pay $5,000/semester for tuition alone, and fend for myself for living expenses.
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  6993. Parents are not obligated to fund their kid's education once they turn 18. You can't possibly suggest passing a law forcing parents to fund their kid's college. You can't force poor people to not have kids either. The problem is Reagan who wanted poor people out of Higher education.
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  6994. Everyone cannot win scholarships
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  6995.  @anthonytwohill9726  yep.
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  6996.  @anthonytwohill9726  sorry I'm ranting I'm just a cashier / student / intern and I hate when rich people think that I have the good life.
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  6997.  @anthonytwohill9726  thank you for letting me rant
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  6998. Rich people have less empathy.
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  6999.  @Shozb0t  Yes.
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  7000.  @Shozb0t  yes. I said every employee.
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  7001.  @Shozb0t  I don't know nor care. Besides, most workers are underpaid anyway. That's a massive structural problem.
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  7002.  @Shozb0t  7.50 is just as bad as 0 since you can't afford anything off of it.
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  7003.  @Shozb0t  I'm willing to listen to how you can increase purchasing power. But 7.50 isn't enough to buy a house or car. What's the purpose of working if you make so little you can't eat or drive?
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  7004.  @Shozb0t  I don't know how you bought a house or car making 7.50. I'd set it to $35. Then adjust it for 1. Cost of living. 2. Family size. I'd eventually opt for $61.08. That's minimum wage based on GDP.
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  7005. Lol
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  7006. Homes are not built for minimum wage workers
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  7007. Exactly!
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  7008.  @Yutani_Crayven  3.3 million sounds like alot but what is their compensation without stocks
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  7009.  @SY-qg6qn  His point is the rich like Musk use loopholes to amass great wealth then complain about the very system that gave them that wealth.
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  7010.  @Theroadneverending  Were you responding to OP or me?
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  7011.  @SY-qg6qn  Oh okay. Do you think my points were bad?
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  7012.  @bobfg3130  Okay but I wasn't the one who said that 3.3 million figure.
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  7013.  @bobfg3130  that is messed up by the way. That's armed robbery figuratively.
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  7014. @Japanada his wealth is still insane. Over $200 billion.
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  7015.  @jaredmello  i know. That doesn't negate my point
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  7016.  @jjewl5506  if you banned ceos/billionaires owning so much stock there wouldn't be a single billionaire in existence.
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  7017.  @jjewl5506  Do you agree with my points?(or care)
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  7018.  @jaredmello  the one i mentioned or OP mentioned?
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  7019. Wow.
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  7020. ​ @Rabbit23 that won't negate the need for medicaid.
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  7021. Yep
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  7022. I'm a kissless virgin incel at 28. I simply desire to lose my virginity
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  7023. I want to lose my vcard
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  7024. That is more than what has been spent on the entire war on poverty in US history....
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  7025. Yep. I'm on Medicaid because I'm poor. I got screwed by America. My minimum wage job doesn't offer healthcare. My internship doesn't. My community college doesn't. Four year schools don't either. Medicaid isn't accepted by most doctors in my state, so it's hard to find a doctor. I lost my food stamps because the COVID era program ended, forcing me to work 20 hours a week....school isn't classified as work.
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  7026. Won't work because there aren't enough skilled positions for everyone, plus not everyone can work full-time or at all, or afford childcare.
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  7027. You gotta be not poor to do that.
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  7028. Correct.
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  7029. Rich people think minimum wage jobs are dead end.
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  7030. Work requirements are messed up altogether
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  7031. Exactly.
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  7032. I'm a virgin at 29.
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  7033.  @Spyrit2011  you agree with me?
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  7034.  @vampiresRsolame  their profit margins are slim but that's the fault of the owner.
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  7035. ​ @plau2007  That's messed up.
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  7036. Lol.
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  7037. It's because politicians believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  7038. I agree.
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  7039. ​Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills
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  7040. That's messed up
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  7041. They do but they hate the poor.
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  7042. ​ @personnesenki4521 many politicians oppose unions too.
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  7043. Yep.
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  7044. That would change most people's lives but is chump change to him.
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  7045.  @BenMonares  too bad for them.
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  7046. Except nothing but service sector jobs exist right now.
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  7047. You're admitting wages are a political choice.
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  7048.  @thomassenbart  no there aren't. Not to the level of replacing all 53 million low paying workers. And even if those jobs existed college is unaffordable for most people now. Otherwise we wouldn't even have over $1 trillion of student loan debt. And if you work full-time you deserve a decent life. Regardless of skill, regardless of education.
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  7049.  @thomassenbart  if you make minimum wage as an adult you deserve it...that is literally belief. Believing some people deserve a decent life and others do not.
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  7050.  @thomassenbart  a job being entry level isn't a universal law of nature, that is a policy choice. Yes, some teenagers work minimum wage, most who work aren't teenagers. Not anymore. You're admitting(college) that even if an unlimited number of white collar jobs were available right now, not all or even most low paying workers could quit their job and foot the bill for college tuition...forget other costs. Trade isn't affordable when you make 35k a year or less and live paycheck to paycheck. Student loan debt shouldn't exist. It should be forgiven. Student debt is "voluntarily" taken on because(by your own admission) most jobs(that can support a family/pay far above minimum wage) require college education.
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  7051.  @thomassenbart  markets are controlled by people and markets can and do change. Therefore, markets can be changed to ensure all workers have a decent life
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  7052.  @thomassenbart  i have no reason to abandon my utopian vision(for unskilled workers/poor people) because we already treat women how we can treat the poor. We Believe women deserve to vote so we just make sure they have the right to vote....That's it. Our society is structured around that simple fact. No matter what jobs exist in the economy wages operate the same way. Wages are not like the weather, something you observe and predict but cannot control, if we truly believed that every worker deserves to not be poor, then every worker would not be poor. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice not a universal law of nature like gravity
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  7053.  @thomassenbart  then the market is wrong.
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  7054.  @thomassenbart  I was already clear. Women expect to have the ability to vote. They expect autonomy. And we just...give them it. We control voting like we control markets and wages. The premise around workers deserving to be poor(our disagreement) we'll just have to accept. I've taken macroeconomics, microeconomics, and many other courses. My points remain the same. We as a society decide what is and is not acceptable. Too many for me to care to list. I was using women's suffrage as one example. We(society) tolerated denying women's suffrage...then we deemed such an action unacceptable and reversed our decision. We decided a society built around women being granted autonomy is far more important than a society built around women being denied it. We do not argue(currently) about the cost. We do not care that we had to change society alot, how many laws and markets had to change, how many people had to have their way of life upended. Now replace women's suffrage with poverty and yet you reject the same logic. When women demand a decent life we give them that opportunity, when the poor/unskilled demand the same thing it's like asking pigs to fly.
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  7055.  @thomassenbart  millions and millions and millions of children are born into poverty through no fault of their own. And that's in the USA alone. And again, you're not supposed to "get out" of poverty because it's not a situation you're supposed to get into. that would be like telling women to get out of being discriminated against rather than rejecting that notion and accepting that being discriminated against in the first place is not a situation they deserve to be in.
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  7056.  @thomassenbart  again just because something is a certain way doesn't mean you have to tolerate it. Just because someone has no skills/makes very little doesn't mean you have to accept that that's just the way it has to be and you throw in the towel. Not everyone can afford college or even trade school.
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  7057.  @thomassenbart  There is not enough scholarship funding for every single one of the 53 million low paying workers in this country to get a university degree or even a degree from trade school. Or even to cover the tuition costs of existing college students. If there was a scholarship fund like you claimed again there would be no outstanding student loan balance. Why does it matter if the person is young? Why does it matter if they're going to school? Why does it matter where they progress to? it is unacceptable to cause them to suffer in the first place, that's not a situation you're supposed to get into in the first place. And not all young people have someone else to financially depend upon. While most workers make above minimum wage, tens of millions make only a few dollars above it and still live paycheck to paycheck, if they can live without taking on debt or welfare at all. Millions make more than minimum wage, yes, but still struggle to get by.
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  7058.  @thomassenbart  "Only" 11.7% of over 600,000 people?? That's not something to downplay... That's literally tens of thousands of people.
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  7059.  @thomassenbart  i don't understand you at all. You accept that we control voting, like we control laws and markets. You accept society changing to accomodate women but not the poor. You accept that the former happened but you also believe the same thing happening for the poor defies comprehension.
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  7060.  @thomassenbart  accomodating the poor through welfare programs is wrong because it wouldn't be needed if they weren't poor in the first place. Markets aren't free, i don't know what you mean by this. All markets are regulated you can't just blatantly say all regulations are bad. Some are bad, some are good, then there are many gray areas. Child labor laws? 40 hour work week? paid overtime? anti discrimination laws? good. Obviously taxing corporate profits 95% is bad. and there are grey areas.
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  7061.  @thomassenbart  you literally cannot be reasoned with. No poverty is not natural like the weather it is a law of the universe like gravity. Poverty is man-made but you refuse to accept this.
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  7062.  @thomassenbart  i did make a reasonable argument. several. i said laws and markets are a. controlled by people b. can change and c. do change. we can and do choose what to tolerate and what not to tolerate.
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  7063. ​ @thomassenbart  Poverty can be stamped out now, poverty exists due to lack of a political will. You yourself admitted poverty is acceptable under certain conditions. Trillions have been spent on poverty but your statement is too black and white. Many policies have helped mitigate poverty: food stamps, medicaid, social security, earned income tax credit, child tax credit, and much more. Millions more would be in poverty if these programs/policies didn't exist. Poverty "can't" end in USA for example because so many people make low wages(and you make excuses for why it's acceptable). USA has enough resources for noone to struggle to get by..it is a political choice to allow so many people to make so little, not even getting into the other political choices that jack up prices on housing, education(more things). My point is that it does not matter how much change has to be caused to America to eradicate poverty, if we truly thought poverty was terrible 100% of the time we wouldn't tolerate it, just like we don't tolerate women being denied voting or rape happening or terrorism happening.
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  7064.  @thomassenbart  I never got this response. Poverty hasn't been stamped out because governments don't want to end it. It's a simple matter of paying people enough.
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  7065.  @thomassenbart  the low wages are tolerated by society They can be changed
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  7066.  @thomassenbart  have you ever considered the fact that maybe these jobs have been dumbed down so there's no skill involved? have you ever considered the fact that there are not enough upper level positions for every low-skilled worker to move up to? It would be like telling everyone at Microsoft to work hard then they'll all be promoted to CEO.
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  7067.  @thomassenbart  inflation happens regardless of what the minimum wage is. Businesses will automate when it becomes convenient for them, no matter what the minimum wage is at. Just because the skill is low does not mean it must be so low the worker requires government assistance to survive. Obviously a cashier and Doctor aren't going to make the same but I'm not about to sit and accept the fact that a cashier has to make so little that they have to turn right around to the government for Medicaid and food stamps.
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  7068.  @thomassenbart  the minimum wage isn't designed to live off of? You do realize that just because something is a design doesn't mean the design can't be altered. just because you're used to doing something a certain way doesn't mean what you're doing is right or can't be changed.
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  7069.  @thomassenbart  half the country is in poverty. These poverty wage workers are not mostly teenagers. As I've previously stated, these jobs have been dumbed down, that's not the fault of the worker. I also previously stated that not everyone can be promoted at once. It isn't mathematically feasible. You have yet to counter this. In addition, there is no skill being a cashier gives you that would allow you to quit and pursue engineering, medicine, law or any other high paying field. Just because someone is in training doesn't mean they deserve to live on the streets. No matter how long you are a cashier or cook you will still be "training." Unless you think a nickel raise per year is really getting the big bucks.
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  7070. Dumbed down= cashier or fry cook. I'm not saying everyone can be CEO I am telling you everyone within a company cannot just be promoted at once within said company. If they all go off and start their own business someone else has to replace them and they'll be stuck. It's a never ending cycle
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  7071.  @thomassenbart  if what you say is true then it is my fault I've been stuck at minimum wage for years(no I'm not disabled or a felon). I desire to become an astrophysicist and screenwriter. The latter I could do right now with no film degree at all, I've even been offered work in the film industry. Being an astrophysicist, however, requires a PhD+postdoc training. I don't know how to get there financially from a minimum wage job.
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  7072.  @thomassenbart  nobody except rich people can afford the $10k/yr tuition for college. Trade schools average 18k without financial aid(if you can get it) and 3k with financial aid. And that's just the tuition alone. You cannot come up with that much spare cash working minimum wage in a few weeks or even months. You have to take on debt regardless of what major you get. Society doesn't owe you anything? if you pay taxes you are owed to choose where that tax money goes.
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  7073.  @thomassenbart that's your problem. You believe some workers deserve squalor.
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  7074.  @thomassenbart  I don't see how you fail to understand that going by your logic it's okay for a cashier to make $8 an hour. But at the same time they turn to government assistance to make up the difference. So you don't want them to make enough to live but they need to live anyway so they turn to the government for help. Which ends up costing us taxpayers anyway.
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  7075.  @thomassenbart  what I'm saying is not everyone can be promoted. Yes...Walmart and other supermarkets create low skilled jobs on purpose.
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  7076.  @thomassenbart  a good cashier might get a $0.50 raise, more likely a nickel. Skills means more education or more responsibility... bagging groceries will never be a college degree nor pay you enough to afford one, nor can everyone climb the corporate ladder.
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  7077.  @thomassenbart  if society owes no one anything then women aren't owed voting. And the point of the video is to show people can't always get what they want. Why would anyone choose to make $8/hr? Nobody would choose, that's who.
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  7078.  @thomassenbart  why eliminate the minimum wage? The working poor have no bargaining power on their own.
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  7079.  @thomassenbart  I desire to be an astrophysicist, that requires extensive post high school education, a minimum wage job isn't paying me enough to afford college
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  7080. I'm back revisiting this. I'm just letting you know I'm enrolled in community college, and got a small scholarship, I'm also pursuing an screenwriting as a career.
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  7081. You ultimately are deciding to shame poor people, meaning you don't believe poverty is wrong.
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  7082.  @thomassenbart  a policy choice, yes. Made by politicians. They acknowledge the lack of financial resources but refuse to provide poor people enough to escape poverty. What you are opposed is fundamentally poor people making a decent wage. It doesn't matter how it's achieved: living wage, unions, welfare. On some level you think poor people don't deserve healthcare or food.
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  7083.  @thomassenbart  1. You believe in just world fallacy if you think hard work is all that is needed to succeed. It is implying the millions in poverty are there because they are lazy. 2. The government could eliminate poverty with more robust income support programs, if it were a true priority. If it can spend trillions of dollars on wars, coronavirus relief, health insurance subsidies, and tax cuts, then USA could end poverty. It just isn't deemed intolerable to politicians. 3. Judging people by the skills an employer is willing to exploit is an awful way to treat human beings. 3b. Minimum wage jobs don't give you skills. 3c. Not everyone can even work, such as severely disabled people. 4. Point 3 is why you're wrong about welfare. Noone should have to work for slave wages. Welfare/living wage laws would be unnecessary if billion dollar corporations weren't greedy beyond comprehension. My supermarket company offered me health insurance, but kept me part time so I couldn't be eligible. So when businesses do things like this to make more money, they're fine, but when poor people do it, all of a sudden conservatives panick? No, it's about forcing poor people to accept wage slavery. If you don't support welfare or living wage laws then demand corporations stop trying to depress wages and undercut American labor. 4. Politics is about choosing between existential risk mitigation and existential opportunity. You, and many others, have chosen to prioritize risk mitigation(of inflation, automation, unemployment) over existential opportunity (of a workforce devoid of poverty). You deem rising labor power, not continued poverty, as unacceptable. 5. Things like Healthcare or other services costing money is not the true source of your anger, because voting rights and freedom of speech are not affected by interest rates or trade deficits or tax hikes. What this dumb distinction is really about, is are you willing to pay the price/accept the risks in helping others have a better life. 85% of businesses shutting down is acceptable if women could vote from then on, but paying that same price to help the poor have anything concerning less poverty is somehow too extreme to pay. 6. I am taking control of my life, but according to you, I'm not only lazy, but am put in impossible situations with no way up or out. 7. I'm on medicaid while attending community college. higher education doesn't offer health insurance. Minimum wage jobs don't by keeping me part time. Internships don't either. And I can't advance to higher skilled jobs while attending school full-time. Yet you want to blame poor people such as myself for being on medicaid, rather than demanding A. Schools provide healthcare B. Employers offer health insurance and not screw over workers with part time status C. Corporations stop being greedy and provide healthcare that can't possibly be paid for by someone working minimum wage. I had to be on food stamps since community college food banks don't offer enough food to eat. So I'm supposed to get a job, right? That pays minimum wage? That you oppose raising? You see my predicament?
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  7084.  @thomassenbart  1. my personal experiences have taught me this: just like in economics, in ideology, all priorirites are not created equal. Just as scarcity means we lack the capability to fund everything, ideological conflict has shown me we are unwilling to help all groups of people. 2. Conflict comes from our unwillingness to help others, which is based on the risks we refuse to accept. Risks, prices, and consequences are equivalent. In the sense that they all represent what we must sacrifice or change in order to help others. 3. This is what i mean by risk mitigation vs opportunity. By the refusal to accept certain risks. Inflation, automation, unemployment, are all unimaginably terrible. They are all priorities. But..they aren't all equal. That's what i'm trying to get you to see/understand. Some conditions must be deemed intolerable. 4. The reason republicans hate welfare, and especially UBI(like the family assistance plan that failed) is because it empowers poor people without regards to them working or not. When conservatives complain welfare destroys work incentive, what they really mean is the incentive poor people have to do dead-end, minimum wage jobs if the wage earned from such work is smaller than the income/government grant(Universal basic income, welfare like medicaid, negative income tax, etc.). This reveals poverty is a feature of USA, not a bug. 5. None of those skills you mentioned are hard skills. The only skills that increase your financial earnings are level of education and level of responsiblity. A minimum wage job increases neither no matter how long someone is employed there. A job that pays minimum wage and offers zero benefits or chance for advancement is dead-end. 6. My point to businesses is exactly the problem i have: running a business isn't a solo endeavor. No man is an island. Everyone who works is in it for money, but conservatives are fine with business owners wanting to make as much money as they want, but get upset when poor people want to do the exact same thing. That's hypocrispy at its finest. It doesn't matter the mechanism: living wage, unions, etc. whenever poor people collectively bargain, conservatives get upset. 7. The health insurance thing was long before obama, and it steelmans my argument. The government would not have to intervene to provide welfare, living wage, or health insurance if corporations provided these things to employees...on their own. Corporations have no desire to do so. Period. Walmart will never pay cashiers $60/hr, no matter how much money the company makes. Not every low wage worker can be promoted, nor do corporations pay full tuition for college for them to obtain education. Not everyone can go to a four year college tomorrow, regardless of what major or degree they desire. 7. I'm 29. I'm still young. I'm not sick, but i have mental disorders that require expensive medication. Between going to school full-time, family obligations, not to mention the disruptions caused from my sick mom passing(i chose to take care of her, because our medicaid wasn't an uncondtional cash transfer, and because health insurance companies refused to deal with her because of her pre existing conditions), it is not feasible for me to work while going to school. 8. I don't want things to be easy for me, but just. When I was 18, my mom became sick and unable to work, she lost her employer sponsored health insurance, and couldn't work in her field due to her sueing her employer anyway. This happened when i first entered CC. So now, I either had to put school on hold and help her, or leave her to die, because medicaid wouldn't fully cover her nor would any private insurer. And i knew i couldn't be a power plant operator or construction worker or engineer and take 12-16 credits a semester at once. I was forced onto medicaid, because i couldn't get health insurance through school. I couldn't use the health coverage to take care of her, because it was restricted through complex services(most doctors don't accept medicaid in my state, causing further headaches). The stress from her sickness and passing caused my grades to slip, leaving me ineligible for financial aid and most scholarships and grants. Even if i was eligible, I would still need medicaid for the treatments for mental problems. And community colleges don't cover living expenses for students. So for me to fully focus on school and nothing else, I would have to turn to food stamps, rental assitance, and even more welfare than that to get by. Economics and ideology are both equally important parts of politics. Welfare is opposed ideologically because many people believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class, and economically because poor people refuse wage slavery with government benefits.
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  7085.  @thomassenbart  I do wish things were easier. But it appears life is not easy not fair. And I just have to work hard and deal with it. I do not understand why things like voting and religious freedom draw nearly universal support, bug things like living wage and welfare and unions cause perennial debate. After all, if we all have the same end goal of helping the poor, we would accept whatever risks that came our way in fighting against poverty. We are not willing to pay such prices, take such risks, which means we do not find poverty unacceptable.
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  7086.  @thomassenbart  on a fundamental level, women's suffrage is more important than money. Voting rights for women are not affected by interest rates or tax hikes or trade deficits. My frustration stems from a policy like this being so supported, women being considered worthy of this/a better life, but USA can't seem to support anyone else who simply wants the same thing. Immigrants, the poor, etc.
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  7087.  @thomassenbart  1. Everyone has a limit in how much he/she wants to change. 2. Politics is about priorities. 3. All priorities are not created equal. 4. The real reason you/others oppose a living wage is because your ethical code says it's morally wrong to pay people more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn. You simply believe poor people don't deserve to make this much money. You think you have the right to tell others what they should make. 5. The ideological opposition to welfare is based on the notion that poor people don't deserve government aid. 6. The economic opposition to welfare is based what I said about slave wages. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If there were truly robust social programs in place, poor people would reject labor market conditions that they otherwise are forced to accept: poverty wages, no benefits, no chance for advancement, lack of collective bargaining/unions. 7. All of this opposition to a living wage, welfare, reveals you/others do not deem poverty intolerable. You don't want it to end, you don't want poor people to have a better life for themselves. If you oppose a living wage, then you must support welfare to make up the difference. If you oppose welfare, then you must support a living wage to make up the difference. Opposing both at once means you want workers to be forced to accept poverty. You want poor people to work...for nothing. 8. I'm back in community college. Full-time. I am applying for scholarships and grants. I've won some. I'm working towards independence/degree. I'm taking control of my life.
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  7088.  @thomassenbart  I returned to community college. Was awarded a few scholarships and grants. Given financial aid back next semester. My life froze from being my mother's caretaker, or rather, from being unable to afford healthcare for her through medicaid. She's gone now. And all I can think about is how much easier life would've been, if things were cheaper or more affordable. Anyway. That's my only point
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  7089. My only points I'm trying to make are 1. You don't view poverty unacceptable like rape 2. You don't want an end to poverty(because you refuse every single policy which would empower poor people) 3. It seems inconsistent to advocate for women having a voice in government and society while opposing others having a say, especially when those groups aren't as sizable or influential as women historically have been. 4. The impact of women on society far surpasses the requests made by any other demographic group, yet while support is extended to women's causes, similar support is not granted to other marginalized groups. Initiatives like canceling medical debt, mandating paid sick leave, or aiding immigrants pale in comparison to the strides made by women, yet they are often overlooked or dismissed. 5. If our commitment to eradicating poverty were genuine, we would be prepared to endure any repercussions in our fight against its existence. We've seen this demonstrated in our efforts to empower women: despite changes in labor participation and family dynamics, we uphold the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, and we accept the consequences. However, when it comes to combatting poverty, we shy away from the necessary sacrifices. This reluctance indicates a lack of genuine belief in ending poverty.
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  7090.  @thomassenbart  1. Okay 2. Okay 3. USA does not desire to support any group of people with any policy to the extent women as a whole have affected society, especially through voting. I.e., a $50 minimum wage, welfare, UBI, NIT(negative income tax), forcing corporations to provide healthcare, immigrants having health insurance/pell grants, students having their debt forgiven, there is literally no policy, not even abortion,(it was made a constitutional right in France), that is as supported as women's suffrage. This is what I mean by the fact that we(society) don't truly desire to help everyone. We already don't deem poverty intolerable like rape. We don't deem other types of suffering to be intolerable either. But this is a choice. It is a choice.
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  7091.  @thomassenbart  crime is a policy choice, just like giving women the constitutional right to vote is. So yes, what constitutes crime is a policy choice. Just like poverty is.
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  7092.  @thomassenbart  I believe with enough hard work and persistence, I will obtain my degree and career. Life is hard, not fair, not equal. But what you're trying to tell me is life is not and should not be that way.
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  7093.  @thomassenbart  what constitutes crime is a policy choice. By definition, breaking the law.. The law you are breaking is not a physical law, but a man made one. So yes, murder and rape being classified as crimes are literal policy choices. Literally.
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  7094.  @thomassenbart  I am saying that rape being classified as a crime is a policy choice. Just like murder and robbery and racketeering. What we consider illegal are literal laws.
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  7095.  @thomassenbart  1. I see. My main point though is correct: what we consider crime is a policy choice, and we pass laws concerning that. So rape and murder being illegal have nothing to do with breaking physical laws/barriers like thermodynamics or general relativity. What is considered crime is ultimately based on our priorities as is voting laws, poverty(this topic) and everything else concerning politics. The government sets the definition of poverty. And poverty results from low wages and high cost of living. The government designs our labor market to ensure wages are too low. That is what I'm saying here. For example, I technically would qualify for section 8 housing. Why? Because not only is rent $1800 a month but government law mandates I must have a job that pays 3x this. Meaning to support just myself I must make $5,400/month or $64,000/year. I chose neither what rent is nor the 3x law. That is not on me what rent is.
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  7096.  @thomassenbart  so you truly believe that the 43% of Americans in poverty CHOOSE to experience poverty? They choose to be there?
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  7097.  @thomassenbart  1. What we consider to be crimes, whether rape or murder or robbery, is decided by people. Man-made laws, not physical laws, determine what is a crime and what is not. The same hold true for everything else I've mentioned. 2. All priorities are not created equal. We are neither capable nor willing to abolish all forms of suffering. 3. We can be willing, because prioritization is a choice. 4. It is possible to eradicate poverty, as all that is needed to provide people with enough resources so that they are not in poverty. It is simple to do, simply not cheap. 5. The poor people campaign estimates the true number of people in poverty to be 43% of the population. 6. The number of people in abject poverty has gone up, not down, since the official poverty level is kept artificially low. It's easy to erase poverty if you keep redefining what poverty is. 7. Everyone cannot increase their skill level. 8. All the government has to do is intervene to stop certain practices. It lacks the political will to do so.
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  7098. We'll just agree to disagree then. Since it's obvious we have morally incompatible beliefs.
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  7099. Correct.
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  7100. Most politicans are trust fund babies.
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  7101. Yes.
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  7102. I hope my comments aren't getting deleted
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  7103. One class at a university was $2800
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  7104. I can't get grants or scholarships. Plus I rely on Medicaid for healthcare.
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  7105. No. Republicans want poor people to work for slave wages.
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  7106. Yes
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  7107. ​@dumpstermaster104 still not the point.
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  7108. No you got it wrong. Republican to know about the numbers, what they're too cowardly to say is that they don't believe everyone deserves to be middle class.
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  7109. It's insane steve cohen can make $2.3 billion a year, while the minimum wage is $5.15 in some places.
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  7110. Yeah, I don't think he finds poverty unacceptable.
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  7111. Good old Calvinism is Alive and Well I see.
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  7112. Not everyone should be a trade worker. Not everyone can win scholarships, much less $10 million worth. ​ @jawant6039 
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  7113.  @Jacob_Spang  just because you're a new worker doesn't mean you have to be mired in poverty.
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  7114. Correct.
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  7115.  @sarasaeed6349  that's hypocrisy.
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  7116.  @harrietharlow9929  many things I have to say.
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  7117.  @harrietharlow9929  Worker solidarity and poverty can not both at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  7118.  @harrietharlow9929  The real reason many conservatives oppose a living wage is because it's a moral issue. They don't believe minimum wage workers deserve to make all that money. it's rewarding failure, and that is anathema to them.
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  7119. @Harriet Harlow  When people complain about inflation and increased unemployment, they're not revealing not their love of impoverishment but rather their opposition to the inconveniences, which would accompany poverty's elimination.
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  7120. @Harriet Harlow  In short, doctors will never work for minimum wage. Most workers do not and can not possess as much power as doctors do individually, only collectivelym Politicians treat worker solidarity as a policy disaster, not relief. As workers gain more power, regardless of the consequences, politicians use poverty, not higher salaries, to keep workers in place.
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  7121. @Harriet Harlow  okay I'm done LOL. I'd like your response
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  7122. A hooker doesn't offer genuine affection.
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  7123. Correct.
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  7124. That's messed up.
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  7125. The reason republicans oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they receive government benefits.
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  7126. No. What Republicans want is disempowered workers. The income grant of UBI pays more than minimum wage jobs, meaning there is no financial way poor people will fill such positions.
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  7127. My replies are gone. Do you see them?
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  7128. Yep.
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  7129. Okay?
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  7130.  @jamesmitch9792  that's eugenics.
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  7131. ​@jamesmitch9792 yes. For poor people specifically. Which is what you're demanding.
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  7132. No.
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  7133. Beautiful.
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  7134. fox news serves the rich so deep down these hosts know this.
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  7135. It isn't about costs. It's about control. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  7136. Thank you.
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  7137. Exactly. The goal is to ensure that rich people go to private schools middle school people go to public schools and poor people can't go to school at all.
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  7138. There's this underlying belief that many Americans have that they believe that poor people don't deserve to have autonomy, to have anything.
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  7139. Yep.
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  7140. You need to understand something about Republicans and the economy: Their axiom is rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor.
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  7141. Holy crap.
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  7142. Just-world fallacy.
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  7143. If Republicans had their way employees would be paying employers for the privilege of being able to work.
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  7144.  Tacitus killgore  One, have you ever considered that these jobs have been dumbed down to have no skill available? Imagine if we dumbed down every cop's job to where every cop is only a traffic cop and you called them lazy for not stopping armed robberies. Two, not everyone can be promoted up the career ladder. Most workers, even if they wanted to get promoted, will be stuck in their low wage job. Three, not everyone can afford the college to qualify for a higher paying job.
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  7145.  Tacitus killgore  considering the profits McDonald's and Chick-fil-A make they could pay their cashiers 100k a year.
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  7146.  Tacitus killgore  there is no way for me to afford the college necessary to become an astrophysicist unless I had a scholarship. And I can't work a high paying trade job and go to school both full time. And trade schools cost money even with financial aid.
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  7147.  Tacitus killgore  except these jobs have been dumbed down to have no skill involved, that is the real problem.
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  7148. ​ @thenewapelles6448 exactly
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  7149. ​ @thenewapelles6448 that's the point: to force poor people out of college.
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  7150. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs in USA
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  7151. I'm being denied sex. I want to have sex but can't.
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  7152. I'm lost. So do you support $15/hr minimum wage?
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  7153. Republicans are heartless
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  7154. Damn
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  7155. I just want to lose my virginity
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  7156. I'm poor. I make $10.50/hr
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  7157.  @matthewfusaro2590  agreed.
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  7158.  @matthewfusaro2590  Republicans believe the rich deserve unlimited funds where as the poor need to be down like rabid dogs.
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  7159. $12,000 a month? I'd be making videos daily too
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  7160. Too much money for the poor, yes.
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  7161.  @hymedude7378  no that's what politicians think. Politicians believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing
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  7162. Yep
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  7163. ​ @joncarbone everyone cannot obtain senior level positions.
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  7164. Wrong. Corporations and politicians treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable. Workers need to be trapped by welfare or debt, to remain desperate enough to accept dead-end jobs.
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  7165. If people could survive, without welfare or debt, no one would work minimum wage. no one would work jobs where the pay doesn't match inflation.
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  7166. I've asked women for sex and to take my virginity. I'm still a virgin.
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  7167. ​ @elliotjames1273 wow.
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  7168. Conservatives do not believe this
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  7169. I agree
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  7170. Sounds like you believe in just world fallacy. You think if everyone just worked hard everything would turn out fine and everyone would have a living wage job.
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  7171.  @ashleybishop7248  The OP believes in just world fallacy. Ignore him.
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  7172. Correct. If workers, not shareholders, got 30-50% of the profits we'd have a vibrant middle class.
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  7173. Many high paying jobs require a college degree.
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  7174.  @jon6309  I didn't say all jobs, I said many. And anecdotally, I desire to become a physicist. Which requires extensive college education.
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  7175. @jon6309  I understand the odds are against me. As for the not ending up in the right field, that is due to the same reason why student loans exist, lack of money. There isn't enough money poured into STEM. Not just physics. Too many PhD students are produced each year(compared to the number of academic positions available alone).
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  7176. @jackhammer4396  except community college still costs outrageous amounts of money, even with financial aid. Since I can only earn minimum wage, it is very difficult to make a living for myself plus go to school. And CC's don't offer health insurance for students either. Without scholarships, I won't be able to finish even CC. With what I dealing with last Spring, even making $75,000/year wouldn't have allowed me to escape poverty/get my degree.
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  7177. @jon6309  with loans? Because I'm not a millionaire, I can't come up with $30k like that. Anecdotally: Last spring, I was taking 3 different classes at 2 different colleges at once, working as a cashier, being an intern, volunteering, and taking care of my sick mom. CC was still unaffordable for me, even with grants. 1. Financial aid didn't fully cover living expenses, no living wage there. 2. My minimum wage job paid me $10.50/hr. No living wage there. 3. My internship paid me $900/semester, and I was taxed. No living wage there either. And due to regulations, I didn't receive health insurance from those sources either. Or the government.
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  7178.  @rtr1478  they hate poor people getting benefits. The problem is they like seeing lower and middle class people suffer.
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  7179. @jon6309  depressing to hear. I'm no economist, but it seems to me this problem is needlessly complicated. Provide people with enough resources so they're not poor. Simple, but not cheap. But all these barriers exist for government aid for poor citizens that it made me realize the government doesn't want college to be affordable in the first place. 1. The government hasn't passed tuition free community colleges or 4 year universities. 2. Even if the government did do #1, it leaves out private schools. 3. Even if the government did do #1 AND #2, it doesn't extend to living expenses(not fully). 4. Scholarships and grants are not guaranteed and are rarely enough. 5. Full ride scholarships cannot be enough in the amount of awards or number of scholarships- not with 140 million people in poverty, and millions more being middle class.
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  7180.  @jackhammer-  Okay.
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  7181. 25 is still a poverty wage thanks to inflation. Everyone can't work hard enough to escape poverty
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  7182. can every man get laid?
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  7183. Thank you
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  7184.  @ik7578  you're right. I eventually left and returned to college to pursue a physics degree instead.
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  7185. Wow.
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  7186. Idk
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  7187. Exactly.
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  7188. Ok
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  7189. Because many workers have enough bargaining power to refuse shitty wages. A doctor can demand to be paid six figures but a cashier can't
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  7190.  @Cyn085  exactly.
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  7191. Yep
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  7192.  @Nimish204  not really no.
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  7193.  @Nimish204  not when you have the IQ of a child.
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  7194. Correct.
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  7195. Wow.
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  7196. I got kicked off medicaid when I turned twenty-six because I have no kids or disabilities
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  7197. Yep
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  7198. The government and corporations don't want that.
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  7199.  @maxshea1829  smh
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  7200.  @scarpfish  ROFL
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  7201.  @scarpfish  yep
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  7202.  @scarpfish  my notifications are messed up forever
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  7203.  @Joyride37  exactly
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  7204.  @JathraDH  okay.
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  7205.  @petervizzini4006  everyone can't work. Such as the disabled.
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  7206.  @JathraDH  okay.
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  7207.  @JathraDH  I hate my notifications being messed up.
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  7208.  @JathraDH  people don't need to be forced to work for non poverty wages. Nobody should work poverty wage jobs with no benefits or chance for advancement. If all jobs were well paying, welfare would not be demanded by so many.
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  7209.  @JathraDH  I see. My ideals are not a fantasy. What I'm saying(my core point) is many people want poverty to persist for many reasons, but by far the biggest reason is to ensure menial jobs get done. People are either supportive of this directly, or are opposed to the alternatives(living wage, universal basic income, robust welfare). I'm just saying people want poverty to persist.
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  7210.  @JathraDH  1. All priorities are not created equal 2. All change has a price 3. Every decision has a trade-off 4. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept That being said, inflation is an acceptable risk. The middle and upper classes will have to accept higher prices for paying menial jobs decent wages. Automation has happened, but it can't eliminate all dirty/menial work. Considering taxing something means you get less of it, I would tax corporations 2x-5x the amount of money their employees use in welfare benefits.
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  7211.  @JathraDH  people are unwilling to pay the prices to enact the alternatives. It means they think poverty is acceptable. It's okay.
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  7212.  @JathraDH  i do. So what do you suggest? That poverty persists to coerce poor people into menial jobs? My core four points are correct. If people don't want to accept the risk of rising labor power, then they don't deem poverty intolerable.
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  7213.  @JathraDH  you aren't listening to what I'm saying. People in USA do not find poverty intolerable. They don't want to end poverty because it serves several roles or functions within American society. The reason poverty persists is because society profits off of it. The system I am saying has never been tried in American history.
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  7214.  @JathraDH  the government has to control everything? A living wage minimum wage law being implemented is hardly the government controlling everything. Far from it. In fact, the government wouldn't have to intervene to do this if corporations stopped desiring cheap labor/slave wages. People oppose socialism because they have the laissez-faire capitalist belief that people who are unwilling to work or use welfare/charity in order to survive are inferior.
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  7215.  @JathraDH  okay. Then what are we in disagreement about? USA doesn't want to end poverty because it deems the risks too severe to accept. Okay, I'll give you an example then: Let's a living wage law was passed tomorrow, and it successfully ensured all workers never needed welfare again. Every worker was lifted out of poverty. But it came at a price - inflation, unemployment, and business bankruptcy doubled overnight. Would that be an acceptable risk to take? Lift those workers out of poverty but erase half of all jobs? All I'm saying is this price would not be universally supported in American society, or any society for that matter. America lacks the willingness to end poverty, whether it has the capability or not is irrelevant. I don't even think inflation would happen anyway as the government would be saving money from not spending so much on welfare programs.
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  7216.  @cursorguy  how do you objectively determine who is disabled "enough" as to determine who can work and who cannot? There is no objective way of doing this. And while many disabled people are employable, many will never gain skilled positions, meaning they're better off not working anyway since they'll need welfare for support. Working for minimum wage is already poverty level, some disabled people make even less than that
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  7217.  @cursorguy  there is no objective measure of disabilities or being able-bodied so you could not realistically enforce this.
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  7218.  @JathraDH  okay. But would you be willing to accept those prices?
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  7219.  @JathraDH  I understand what you are saying. You are saying we lack the capability to abolish poverty, not the willingness. I believe we lack the willingness, not the capability.
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  7220.  @JathraDH  all priorities are not created equal. If ensuring livable wages was the top priority, then all other priorities would pay the price.
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  7221.  @cursorguy  those jobs do not pay enough to support the disabled or mentally ill who would be considered capable of working in your position. You would need draconian solutions to ensure everyone able-bodied was forced to work.
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  7222.  @cursorguy  okay. I agree with you.
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  7223.  @JathraDH  but that's the fault of capitalism for creating a system where Poverty's dissolution, would be dysfunctional for society
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  7224.  @cursorguy  If all jobs paid livable wages if all students had access to grants or scholarships if everyone had access to basic healthcare Then yes, people being unwilling to work who aren't disabled or injured is wrong to me. What I'm saying is that many jobs are not well paying, everyone does not have healthcare and so on. Capitalism and USA wants poverty to persist to force poor people into poverty wage jobs with no benefits. I'm saying it's wrong to expect people to be willing to work for poverty wages, or shame poor people for being unwilling to work for the same thing.
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  7225.  @JathraDH  read Herbert gans functions of poverty. Poverty persists in the USA for the exact reasons I've mentioned. It's too dysfunctional to create alternatives. At least dysfunctional to the rich and powerful. At no point in history has there ever been a living wage or universal basic income, or complete automation of all menial/low wage work.
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  7226.  @cursorguy  there is no solution because Americans don't want poverty to end. Read this essay by Herbert gans called "Functions of poverty." He outlines that poverty serves 13 major functions, or roles, within American society. The four biggest roles of poverty are: 1. Ensures dirty work gets done 2. Guarantees the status of those who are not poor 3. Creates occupations that flourish because of poverty 4. Stabilizes the political process.
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  7227.  @JathraDH  so then what am I supposed to do? Accept poverty will always exist in USA?
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  7228.  @cursorguy  okay. I actually do think there is a solution. I don't know how to explain it concisely though.
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  7229.  @cursorguy  my solution is to accept something simple: that poverty is intolerable. Be willing to accept whatever risks in fighting against the existence of poverty, and we can shift our values in such a way as to actually end poverty. We must be willing to become poverty abolitionists. We do so by equating poverty with women's suffrage: both policy choices requiring change in our values.
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  7230.  @cursorguy  okay.
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  7231.  @cursorguy  one of your replies is gone.
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  7232.  @cursorguy  I'll try to be concise again Poverty persists mainly to ensure that minimum wage jobs are filled. The income grants of welfare pay more than minimum wage work, which eliminates the financial pressure and incentive of the poor to do such jobs. This is what politicians mean by "welfare disincentives work."
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  7233.  @cursorguy  ok
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  7234.  @JathraDH  rich people make more than enough money to not work, but still do.
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  7235. How do you objectively determine which ones either tax or subsidize society? Rich and poor people receive government assistance, corporations receive subsidies too. So they're supported. On the other hand, rich people use poverty to support their lifestyles and fill minimum wage jobs, thus taxing society. Rich people also receive trillions of dollars of inheritance and tax cuts they don't work for. Those are taxes as well.
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  7236. I meant to ping you
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  7237.  @bendriscoll4758  don't act like I don't work or contribute to society. You don't know my situation, just like I don't know yours. Everyone cannot work, and even if everyone could work, some people cannot survive without government assistance. This is not due to laziness or our lack of capability of ensuring everyone has a minimum standard of living, but our lack of willingness to help the disadvantaged in society. Also, rich people receive trillions of dollars of inheritance and tax cuts they didn't earn or work for, make trillions of dollars of profits, more than enough money to not work, yet they still do. Why do people have this expectation that lower class and the disabled need to be forced to work?
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  7238. The real reasons welfare are hated is because 1. Many people think poor people don't deserve welfare 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits But the core problem is capitalism requires a deprived population that is inferior for either being unwilling to work or needing welfare or charity in order to survive.
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  7239.  @RayCamacho-m2e  yep
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  7240. I live in the real world, you don't know my situation. Of course skilled positions will be paid more than unskilled ones. That doesn't change the fact that all positions should keep people out of poverty. A doctor will always make more than a cashier. That doesn't't mean a cashier should make $9 an hour. And like I said, people can't have it both ways: they can't demand unskilled jobs exist but also demand that they pay poverty wages as well. either support automation or a living wage and you don't have to force anyone to work.
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  7241. Private markets thrive because of certain government regulations such as patents and subsidies, so the government isn't entirely bad. Nor is Medicaid bad since many corporations don't want to provide employees with health insurance.
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  7242. There is no Force here: we live in a society and we agree explicitly to help one another. we also know, as do you, that everything has a price.
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  7243. Sounds like you're trolling if you truly read gans essay. Nothing he said was incorrect. Wealthy and skilled people (billionaires and doctors) do not accept minimum wage jobs or pay. If mw jobs exist, in their present state, then only the poor and unskilled fill them through coercion. Any mechanism that either allows the poor to resist filling these jobs at lower pay or accept filling them at higher pay is destroyed/opposed.
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  7244.  @RayCamacho-m2e  I can't ping anyone anymore. My notifications are messed up.
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  7245. Of course there is force. Because people have different priorities. There is no way for everyone's priorities to be met at once.
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  7246. I don't vote anyway because my will isn't accepted
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  7247. Would you be willing to accept a living wage law if inflation doubled?
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  7248. Like formally? A paid job? Cashier. Informally? Being my mother's caretaker.
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  7249. I'm 29 now. 2013-2015, I went to community college part-time and flunked out due to stress from my mom's sickness. 2016-2017 I was a NEET. 2017-2022 I stayed in minimum wage jobs while taking care of my mom. 2023: mom passed away. 2024- present: I returned to community college in person. So my mom and 20s are gone. I'm basically 18. But I'm pursuing a new goal: associates degree in science. Transfer to university. Bachelor's degree of science Major in physics. Minor in journalism. Top priority is classwork, lower priority is submitting an op-ed, then writing about the news
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  7250.  @qjtvaddict  I don't know how to do that.
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  7251.  @etienne8110  I forgot to add capitalists tend to believe people unwilling to work or people who use welfare or charity to survive are also worthless. I disagree with these ideas as well.
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  7252.  @etienne8110  exactly.
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  7253.  @mehobuh1003  yep
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  7254. Okay ​ @animangafan342 
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  7255. ​ @guymontag6382 why what?
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  7256. ​ @markniblack7160 okay
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  7257. ​ @zombiedoggie2732 yeah!
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  7258.  @constantinethecataphract5949  ok
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  7259.  @constantinethecataphract5949  okay but we're talking about humans, not dogs in the wild.
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  7260.  @lyubovimirovospriyatiye  if no one wants to work then pay them more to entice to work..Seems like a pretty simple solution. People want to work, just not for poverty wages and no benefits
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  7261.  @lyubovimirovospriyatiye  there are good reasons for people to be unwilling or unable to work.
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  7262.  @lyubovimirovospriyatiye  that onus is still on corporations, not the poor or immigrants. There are incentives for everything. If a job is dirty, i.e. dead-end, temporary, undignified, dangerous, or underpaid, then the job offers no incentive for people to work them as is. The only way such jobs are useful for workers is if the jobs pay decent wages. So yes, if someone doesn't want to work for poverty wages and no benefits, or doesn't want to work an undignified job, that is entirely reasonable.
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  7263. @FlawlessP401  sounds like the rich
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  7264. @nicktheprickevans  that describes many of the rich.
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  7265. @FlawlessP401  try again with such terrible logic.
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  7266. @dr.burtgummerfan439  you're more concerned with mitigating those risks than helping workers gaining bargaining power
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  7267. @dr.burtgummerfan439  ah. There it is. The REAL reason people like you oppose a living wage: because you believe poor people are asking to be paid more money than they "deserve." I didn't realize cashiers are worse than rapists now. Employment is not a one way street. Employers are not entitled to slave labor. And minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  7268.  @dr.burtgummerfan439  employers have a responsibility to keep their workers out of poverty. I didn't know cashiers are worse than rapists.
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  7269.  @dr.burtgummerfan439  entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone can be promoted out of a low wage job. That's the equivalent of telling every city cop they can all become police chief, all at once, if they worked hard enough.
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  7270. @dr.burtgummerfan439  Noone should have to move jobs or work multiple jobs just to survive.
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  7271.  @dr.burtgummerfan439  can every city cop be police chief, all at once?
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  7272. @dr.burtgummerfan439  people are not at the bottom due to low aspirations.
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  7273. @dr.burtgummerfan439  I'm pursuing a physics degree now. While in school, I'm poor and self supporting student. I want scholarships and grants to continue my education, but I have to work for those. I'm very poor now. Don't tell me you think it's acceptable. I have to be on food stamps and medicaid, and even more welfare, without scholarships, while I'm pursuing school.
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  7274. @dr.burtgummerfan439  But you're arguing for the existence of poverty. The poverty of millions such as myself.
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  7275.  @dr.burtgummerfan439  poverty is a policy choice, not a law of nature like gravity.
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  7276. @dr.burtgummerfan439  none of that is the definition of poverty. USA could end poverty with robust income support programs, if it were a true priority for politicians.
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  7277.  @dr.burtgummerfan439  okay.
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  7278. you believe in just-world fallacy. @dr.burtgummerfan439 
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  7279. okay @MarkovianMan 
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  7280.  @dr.burtgummerfan439  you believe in just world fallacy. Poverty can be eliminated by the government.
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  7281.  @dr.burtgummerfan439  ok
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  7282. The problem is politicians are not disabled and not poor so they don't change the system.
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  7283. ​ @jwoods9659 someone has to work retail.
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  7284. Conservatives judge people by skills, not profits.
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  7285. Conservatives believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  7286. You get more welfare based on the kids you have.
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  7287. Fallacy of relative privation
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  7288. Who don't offer real affection.
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  7289. Yep
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  7290. With $5 million, I could afford to escape poverty and finish getting my physics degree without Medicaid or food stamps.
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  7291. If you taxed corporations 6x the amount their employees used on welfare poverty wages would end.
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  7292.  Ash Hegde  lol.
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  7293.  @MsNickie1001  He's a classic boot licker always blaming the individual and never the system.
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  7294.  Ash Hegde  if Wal-Mart's business model is based on poverty wages then it IS society's responsibility to deal with that. You act like people want to be poor. That is like saying people want to be raped.
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  7295.  Ash Hegde  except that is a policy choice to allow low wages. Markets are governed by government institutions, they don't exist in a vacuum. And there was a point in time where people with minimal skills made decent pay, that changed with outsourcing and NAFTA.
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  7296. I agree
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  7297. Correct.
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  7298. I wish NC passed that.
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  7299. I read all of that. I hate to tell you your UBI proposal or anything similar won't work. It was tried and failed, called the "family assistance plan" under President Nixon. The core problem is rich people want society's dirty work/dead end minimum wage jobs to get filled. This cannot happen if everyone was wealthy or skilled (had degrees or manager positions).
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  7300. To this end, corporations and politicians oppose welfare, UBI, negative income tax, etc for the same reason: Any substantial government assistance pays more than low wage jobs.
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  7301. I hope my comments aren't deleted
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  7302. ​ @BrokeredHeart  republicans believe poor people are failures.
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  7303. Yep
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  7304. Incels feel entitled to sex thus they don't feel like they should have to pay for it.
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  7305. ​ @JM-hn6vg just-world fallacy
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  7306. Exactly.
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  7307. Yep
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  7308. More educated workers means less putting up with worker exploitation. Can't have that.
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  7309. These employers are too scared to change
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  7310. Correct.
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  7311. Well, you can't leave it to greedy corporations either.
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  7312. If every minimum wage worker tried their best, would they all get a promotion? Would they all get a pay raise? No.
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  7313.  @tboman4128  not everyone can do either
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  7314.  @tboman4128  then you want poverty.
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  7315.  @tboman4128  I'm in community college now, pursuing an associate of science degree. With the intent of transferring to a four year school and earning a bachelor's. In science/physics. While I'm doing this, I can only do shitty minimum wage jobs.
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  7316.  @tboman4128  I can't see my comments smh.
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  7317.  @Scanner9631  exactly.
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  7318. Yep.
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  7319. That's messed up
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  7320. You're implying poor people don't deserve government assistance because they are lazy.
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  7321. ​ @joed2444 if the market itself sucks then the system is the problem, not the individual. Blame corporations for wanting to pay people poverty wages, not poor people who simply want a better life for themselves.
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  7322. ​ @joed2444 and if you need healthcare while in college? Since college isn't considered work? What if you're not young anymore or injured?
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  7323.  @joed2444  Just because you're in college doesn't mean your parents are financially capable and willing to support you. Nothing is free in this world, not even water. I am appalled you don't want to help others achieve their educational dreams. It isn't like going to college is illegal or immoral like rape or murder.
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  7324. ​ @joed2444 all priorities are not created equal. If providing everyone with healthcare was the top priority, then business bankruptcy and higher taxes would be prices you be willing to pay. Why are people who mooch off the system a problem? Again, all priorities are not created equal. What you're really saying is it's more important for people who need healthcare to not have it, then for people to have healthcare but not need it or contribute it.
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  7325. ​ @joed2444 I shouldn't have to cite poverty wages. You should already be aware that poverty exists in this nation as it exists in every other. And that millions of people use welfare because jobs don't pay enough. After all, doctors don't use Medicaid, because they make enough to not need it. If this was truly desired, paying jobs enough to eliminate Medicaids demand, it would already have been done.
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  7326. He doesn't care.
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  7327. Yes.
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  7328. Wow.
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  7329.  @katieandnick4113  if the poverty line was recalculated to be 200% above the poverty line now... 50% of the country be poor.
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  7330.  @katieandnick4113  when the Rich aska for money we give them a blank check but when the poor asks for money we give them less money with strings attached and disdain.
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  7331. Ok
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  7332. Conservatives don't want it to be livable for minimum wage workers. What you and Trevor and many people don't understand is that conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage as a moral issue: their ethical code says it's unfair to pay lazy/ unskilled people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  7333. Which is still a poverty wage
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  7334. Myth of meritocracy.
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  7335.  @NeptunesHorses5909  yep.
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  7336. Which is an acceptable risk
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  7337. It's called believing in the myth of meritocracy.
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  7338. ​ @akindatallmidget6508 thank you.
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  7339. You have to be a psychopath to be a politician.
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  7340. I want to lose my virginity before I turn 29.
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  7341. I am trying to lose my virginity
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  7342. Ok
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  7343. Exactly.
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  7344. I'd tax corporations 6x the amount their employees used in welfare benefits.
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  7345. K
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  7346.  @williampennjr.4448  you act as if policies cannot change.
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  7347.  @williampennjr.4448  what? policies can and do change. There's no reason to argue against that. What policies make sense to you is a matter of opinion.
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  7348.  @williampennjr.4448  the us constitution did not grant women the right to vote for over one hundred years. are you going to tell the women who died before 1918 well "tough luck what you want doesn't make sense?"
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  7349. Exactly
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  7350.  @avicennabuzzbomb  yes
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  7351.  @FilthyMcFly1983  it's from a thread on Reddit.
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  7352.  @j1053  yes.
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  7353. What?
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  7354. Less
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  7355.  @iamcosma7065  no company competes for grocery baggers or janitors.
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  7356.  @iamcosma7065  which is unfair.
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  7357.  @iamcosma7065  Freezers are not people, we're talking about consent here.
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  7358.  @iamcosma7065  Since they're being forced to accept low pay that is paying them a certain amount without their consent.
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  7359.  @iamcosma7065  LOL you can't be serious. A stock shelving person is easily replaceable. If he/she asks for the pay that they want, the employer will replace them with someone else who is willing to work for less. When the supply of workers is so high that it is practically unlimited, then employees compete for employers, not the other way around. This means that no individual worker has any power on their on in setting wages. And most workers accept employment because the alternative is death.
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  7360.  @iamcosma7065  most people are employed BECAUSE they don't want to die. And i believe you disagreed with profit sharing earlier.
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  7361.  @iamcosma7065  If you believe people are not forced to settle for less you unaware of all of the poverty in the world. Yes start a business....with no money from slave wages, no free time because you're being worked into the ground, no skills because a college degree is unaffordable for most people and even if you somehow got one still no guarantee of decent wages, and unaffordable health care. Let's not also forget mental illness, injury, children, and age are all factors in determining your success too. Most people are barely scraping by, living paycheck to paycheck, but they'll create a corporation in no time? Got it. Also right to work/at will employment means unions have no presence/power and workers can't collectively negotiate that way either.
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  7362.  @iamcosma7065  without anti-monopoly laws, unions, or higher minimum wages, employees are left behind in the dust. By the way, all of these require government intervention because as I said before no individual worker is as powerful as an entire company or industry. No way any janitor at McDonald's is going to just demand to be paid more by the restaurant owner or CEO and expect it go dandy. That's not happening.
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  7363. $1 million a year is so much money...
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  7364.  @nairsheasterling9457  i wish i could become a politician and change things... But too many people are too corrupt.
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  7365.  @nairsheasterling9457  LOL mate one day. I study physics not economics because economics has no straight forward answers(because i can't predict human behavior) and all decisions are mired by morality.
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  7366. I have two major theories on why the United States allows homelessness and poverty. The first is that many people believe that everyone has a fair shot in life so if you wind up poor it is your own fault. Helping the poor become middle-class or rich is like giving me a medical degree just because I asked for it. I'm getting something i don't deserve. Second of all many people want to preserve the income and social class structure we have now. Some people believe only certain jobs should make people rich. Although I could be over analyzing everything and it's just that people are greedy and politicians have no accountability.
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  7367.  @nairsheasterling9457  i feel so sad now :( all the suffering in our country.
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  7368.  @nairsheasterling9457  thanks for all of your help clarifying things.
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  7369. The reason welfare is restricted is precisely to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Nobody would accept working in fast food and retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
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  7370. I thought the 19th amendment gave women the right to vote?
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  7371. the point is to keep poverty around.
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  7372.  @michaelleonard1184  lol he had a dumb argument.
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  7373. My grandparents graduated into an economy where they had union manufacturing jobs that didn't even require a high school degree. They paid off their house in 3 years. Mortgage was 10% of their take home pay.
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  7374. Someone living at home is not justification for poverty. Nothing is.
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  7375. How can they have 5 million subscribers but none of their views get past 200k?
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  7376. ​ @seankerr9158 exactly
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  7377. They do. They just do not care.
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  7378. Doctors can refuse to work for $10/hr. Cashiers can't. Not on their own. They NEED collective bargaining.
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  7379. I'm 29 and a virgin. I'm incel. I realize my incel ways will make it hard to find a feminist girlfriend.
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  7380. That's messed up.
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  7381. Wow
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  7382. I'm male incel. No female incels exist.
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  7383. Yep
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  7384. It's messed up
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  7385. Politicians believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  7386. Yes
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  7387. It's like not only being a bank robber but not knowing robbing banks is illegal until after you get caught.
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  7388. Yep.
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  7389.  @cassady7169  oh okay.
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  7390. @Kelly Bo Belly  how do I survive on what I make? That's the neat thing, I DON'T! My family pays for my food, clothes, and housing, and I'm 28 years old! In fact, since I'm past 25 I can't get welfare either since I have no kids or disabilities. I've basically become fed up with being poor and the first step is just leaving minimum wage.
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  7391. @Kelly Bo Belly  There is no way to survive off of what I make, period I make $46 every shift. I took my brother to the movies last week, I bought our tickets and food and drinks. it came up to seventy seven dollars. What I'm saying is I made less money that day than It took for me to take my brother to the movie that night. This is to say nothing of paying for transportation. Since a PS5 is $600, I only make $436 every 2 weeks, then I can't buy a PS5 after a week...or ever.
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  7392. @Kelly Bo Belly  I've noticed something about the American economy: The American economy runs on poverty, or at least the threat of it. Consumers demand access to cheap goods quickly, and this requires millions of people willing to work at sub-par wages. Politicians and business leaders treat worker solidarity with disdain. They use the whip of poverty, not the lure of higher wages, as the appropriate policy response.
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  7393. @Kelly Bo Belly  It's not truly about greed. It's about power and control. I look at everybody as doctors. What I mean by that is: would a doctor accept a minimum wage job? I don't even care if it's a brain doctor. Would any doctor do that? Of course not. Doctors have skills to know that they have better options, period. they have the power to reject the dead end job offers. This is the power that all employees seek to have because if they had it, This country would not be in the dire straits it is in now. No one would work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage. With 0 benefits or a chance for advancement. No one would work in a right to work state. No one would work without being offered benefits.
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  7394. If Chic Fil A paid you/its workforce according to profits made and not skill, cashiers would be making around $100,000 a year.
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  7395. Except many conservatives hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty. They view working in fast food and retail as a punishment. They also believe poor people need to experience deprivation and hardship in order to be motivated to succeed.
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  7396. My replies are gone.
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  7397.  @voulafisentzidis8830  why are my replies gone?
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  7398.  @voulafisentzidis8830  I agree with you. Here is the REAL reason many conservatives hate a living wage is because they believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class. It doesn't matter the policy choice: living wage, unions, welfare, the end result is the same: poor people are getting something they have not earned. It's ingrained into conservative ideology that one must earn a decent life.
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  7399.  @voulafisentzidis8830  love political analysis, but not discourse. I've wanted to be a political journalist because of this(Wage analyst).
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  7400.  @voulafisentzidis8830  thanks I will
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  7401.  @s.r6331  he believes in just-world fallacy.
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  7402. ​ @TheEvenTable that's messed up.
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  7403. You are correct
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  7404. That's a real risk
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  7405.  @ricomajestic  What? The video is about workers...
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  7406. What you're saying is you're more upset over not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage.
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  7407.  @Bigred21g  it's not me being emotional. 1. All priorities are not created equal. 2. All change has a price. 3. Every decision has a trade-off 4. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. If ensuring livable wages was the top priority, then all other priorities would pay the price. Every decision has a trade-off. What people are really saying is it's more important to mitigate the risk of inflation and unemployment than ensure livable wages.
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  7408.  @Bigred21g  I understand now. I'm glad you understand my point.
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  7409. Wow.
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  7410. Not everyone has a choice, you idiot.
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  7411. Many lack that choice
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  7412. Exactly.
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  7413. I'm a poor person. I'm on medicaid. ​ @lesliecurran1704 
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  7414. That is what she believes.....
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  7415. Everyone cannot do that?
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  7416. Incels feel entitled to have sex provided to them by the women that they choose. Since the women they want "should" be providing sex for free incels see no reason to work to make themselves more attractive and they certainly would not pay for it.
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  7417. Ok
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  7418. Biden could wipe out all debt and expand federal loans that can be 100% waived.
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  7419. ​ @32446 exactly
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  7420. ​ @Tim_Gagnon  messed up.
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  7421. Because of just-world fallacy. Republicans believe rich people and business owners have "worked hard enough" to succeed in the "system that works." So when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. Whereas poor and disabled people have failed. So any government help they receive is a "hand out."
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  7422. Unions.
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  7423. ​ @thedude5040 yep
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  7424.  @thedude5040  hahahahaha
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  7425.  @MBarberfan4life  yeah it sucks. I know politicians use work requirements to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  7426. I'm a male virgin at 28. I have no skills ( no college education, career, or raining certification) No independence (no driver's license. No car. No apartment or house of my own. No income. No savings) I'm poor and socially isolated and socially inept. I've also never kissed, dated, or held hands. I don't want to die miserable and alone. I don't want to remain incel. A loser.
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  7427.  @_annoyed4692  hello. I'm here.
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  7428. That's crazy
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  7429. What do you expect? Poor people to make decisions for the rich?
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  7430. I'm poor and ignored.
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  7431.  @claredunn757  I don't want to give up hope either, especially after my mom died never escaping poverty.
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  7432. Exactly
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  7433. At twenty eight years old, I work as a casher at a supermarket. I make $10.50/hr and have me kept part-time to avoid benefits. a while ago, I got caught covid. I still was not offered paid sick leave or health insurance, so my employer left me to die. Screw America
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  7434. Nobody wants to do society's dirty work for low pay. Either automate or increase wages for workers.
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  7435. That's not the real reason. The ideological reason is because Republicans oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. The economic reason is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. The 2nd reason is important, poor people won't work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement. They wouldn't accept below cost of living wages and no affordable health insurance. Minimum wage workers would demand(and receive) those things.
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  7436. Yep
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  7437. Because people use welfare and debt to survive
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  7438. Plus the reason welfare is needed is BECAUSE corporations refuse to pay more for American labor.
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  7439. Yep.
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  7440. Wow.
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  7441. ​ @Name.......... Exactly
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  7442. ​ @Name.......... Exactly
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  7443. I'm struggling at community college because I'm poor. I don't have welfare either
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  7444.  @Tehstampede  Each chic fil a store makes roughly $4.6 million a year. Take 50% of that and distribute it to the 15-19 employees and you get over $90,000 per year. McDonald's on weekends can make $12,000 an hour.
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  7445.  @rdmcabee  that's crazy.
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  7446.  @Tehstampede  no. Each store averages $4.6 million in gross sales. McDonald's averages $2.9 million/per store. Each store with 15-25 workers.
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  7447.  @Tehstampede  yes. Roughly. On the extreme ends "bad" stores make $3.3 million and "great" stores can make over $5 million.
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  7448.  @Tehstampede  I don't know if that pizza shop makes anywhere near that much per year. Also it was a really busy day and the owner cover the operating cost for that day. Even then, what most restaurant and retail business owners don't tell you is that labor is actually the smallest cost, operating costs such as franchise frees and utilities and other things take up a bulk of cost. It's just that labor is the one cost that is malleable.
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  7449. The problem is many conservatives don't believe this even when presented with facts.
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  7450. @Dan Corkill  if everyone could do more then poverty would not exist anywhere in USA. Speaking of walmart anyway....everyone there cannot be promoted. It's hogwash to expect everyone to move up.
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  7451.  @dancorkill7033  What?
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  7452.  @brucebasile5083  i don't know what else to say.
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  7453.  @dancorkill7033  I truly believe you're trolling me at this point. Of course women can vote, just like an airplane moves through the air. I said we believe women DESERVE to vote. We. do. not. all. believe. workers deserve a living wage. If workers had more bargaining power, they wouldn't accept poverty wage jobs. I wouldn't want to make $90,000/hour, but i wouldn't want to make $9/hr. There is a pretty large difference between those two compensations, correct? Start their own company? So you're admitting that there are only so many high paying jobs. If enough high paying jobs existed to escape poverty as is, then your argument falls apart. Markets are structured by human beings and rules, they aren't magic. You're acting like things "just happen." No, markets do not "just happen," we MAKE it happen.
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  7454. @Bruce Basile  Oh okay. Thanks. :) Do you agree with my points?
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  7455. @Zach  the debate is ideological, not economic. Politicians and corporations don't want to end poverty. Rich people don't want to either. Many conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. It isn't like women's suffrage or freedom of speech, something our country universally supports.
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  7456. @Zach  this is truly about values. If we truly thought inflation was wrong, we would accept whatever consequences in fighting against it. We don't wish to do this either.
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  7457.  @brucebasile5083  ok then i'm done here.
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  7458.  @kimifur  correct. Because most Americans are capitalist, they believe only jobs which require huge education/responsibility deserve decent pay.
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  7459. Lol.
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  7460.  @KW49024  because?
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  7461. ​ @KW49024 I asked a serious question.
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  7462.  @Eoin-B  okay.
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  7463. Walmart is evil.
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  7464. Politicians / The Rich treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable. Employees and employers don't want the same thing, and employers want to have all of the power and all of the decision making capabilities when it comes to everything. Because no one in their right mind would take a minimum wage job, with no benefits, no career advancement, no job security, and no job loyalty.
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  7465. I think conservatives oppose policies which reduce poverty.
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  7466. Correct.
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  7467. ​@ANDROLOMA that's the problem.
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  7468. ​@ANDROLOMA Our politicians are presented with a very simple choice. You can have worker power exist, or you can have poverty, but you can not have both the truth. The truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to take and it is rising worker power, not poverty, that is seen as intolerable.
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  7469. Calvinism is alive and well
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  7470. True but it should be high enough to live on.
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  7471. That's messed up
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  7472. It won't because immigrants provide cheap labor for corporations
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  7473. Exactly.
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  7474. ​ @arnoldstrong3548 exactly
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  7475. Then you would rather have cheap prices than workers having a living wage
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  7476. Everyone cannot obtain senior level positions.
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  7477. ​ @bane3991 everyone can't get loans
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  7478. ​ @ubereats3048 stfu
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  7479. My replies are deleted. If I was awarded $20 million of scholarships, how would you feel?
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  7480. strawman.
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  7481. Correct. But capitalism requires the lie of meritocracy.
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  7482. It benefits the poor. Conservatives oppose helping the poor become middle class.
    1
  7483. Exactly.
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  7484. I cried from reading that.
    1
  7485. So you prefer cheap prices over workers having a living wage
    1
  7486. Yep.
    1
  7487. Because it's about control. Corporations want cheap labor, and minimum wage jobs to be filled. They can't have these things with robust welfare in place
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  7488.  @AndrewWadzinski  1. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty 2. Herbert gans essay outlines that poverty serves 13 major functions in society, one of those is creating occupations around servicing or dealing with the poor, namely the criminal justice system (courts and police). 2. You can't get money out of politics. Money is one of the two factors of politics, the other being ideology.
    1
  7489. Except rich people want poverty
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  7490. It's also why republicans hate welfare: because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  7491. It's also why republicans hate welfare: because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
    1
  7492. He believes ​poor people don't deserve to make a living wage. He hates minimum wage workers and believes they deserve poverty  @tiffanybolton1832 
    1
  7493. ​@michaelWNYyou're sick in the mindset
    1
  7494. ​ @WikiSorcerer he believes it's morally wrong to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  7495. That's so much money.....
    1
  7496. The billionaires or the politicians?
    1
  7497. In one sentence, Jon made CNN look like trash.
    1
  7498. ​ @c.l.9344 exactly
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  7499. Correct.
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  7500. I'd tax restaurant businesses 5x the amount their employees used in welfare.
    1
  7501. ​ @tootsietkable  I agree
    1
  7502. ​ @tootsietkable  I'm kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits
    1
  7503. Poor people can't afford to run
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  7504. Pay them minimum wage too.
    1
  7505. I sit at home. I'm incel virgin at 29
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  7506. If only Republicans believed this
    1
  7507. Yep
    1
  7508. I'm too poor to change things
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  7509.  @johnbrown9802  entry level is an excuse to pay poverty wages.
    1
  7510.  @johnbrown9802  skill is irrelevant. The employers cannot exist without employees.
    1
  7511. I'm poor and on welfare in USA
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  7512.  @chelah18  They can't.
    1
  7513. Nothing is priced for people making minimum wage.
    1
  7514. Prices have been going up anyway!! nothing is priced for people making minimum wage.
    1
  7515.  @TheHuxleyAgnostic  wow.
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  7516. Because they believe poor women don't deserve to have children.
    1
  7517. You're correct
    1
  7518. Millions of people make more than 7.25 but below 15. 43% of the population is poor or low-income.
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  7519.  @RickL-wq6js  okay.
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  7520.  @XxThunderflamexX  thank you
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  7521. Lol corporate america would crater collapse then.
    1
  7522. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
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  7523. Many jobs don't offer health insurance, especially minimum wage jobs.
    1
  7524.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  doesn't solve the core problem of corporate greed
    1
  7525. ​ @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 ok. Keep trolling
    1
  7526.  @lloydmckay3241  he doesn't believe unskilled workers deserve to be rich.
    1
  7527. Lolol
    1
  7528. That's messed up
    1
  7529. ​ @cassady7169  wrong.
    1
  7530. It's called just-world fallacy.
    1
  7531. ​ @LilChuunosuke exactly
    1
  7532. Our government treats worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
    1
  7533. Elaborate. Why is there socialism for the poor?
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  7534.  @leoscareer  no. I'm saying why does it exist? Middle class gets no welfare.
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  7535.  @leoscareer  that seems....messed up. The rich get welfare via corporate subsidies and tax breaks and bailouts. The poor get subsidies via free.... everything. I'm poor I don't understand why middle class people hate me. They say poor people steal their money and idolize the rich.
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  7536. I don't understand your point, you're basically saying that both politicians and corporations want poverty
    1
  7537. Because you have nothing to lose, they do.
    1
  7538. Correct
    1
  7539. ​ @sculpy2758  can everyone reach seniority?
    1
  7540. Exactly
    1
  7541. Because most people can't get scholarships? There are only 100,000 or so few full ride scholarships but 20 MILLION college students and 140 MILLION people in poverty. Less than 0.1% of students will full ride scholarships.
    1
  7542. Ok
    1
  7543. Yep.
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  7544. In north carolina, I lost medicaid coverage since I had no kids or disabilities after the age of twenty-five. I don't get it through my job because i'm kept part-time. Even if I did get the insurance they offer, it is so high in price and so limited in coverage it still won't be worth it to have it.
    1
  7545. I hope Harris wins but I won't vote.
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  7546.  @marcevan1141  it doesn't make sense, you're right. Basically I know she won't help the poor, just like Biden hasn't.
    1
  7547. ​ @Incel_81 what?
    1
  7548. Yep.
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  7549. Ok
    1
  7550. Yep.
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  7551. Correct.
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  7552. Not everyone has the money or time to do that. Nothing wrong with a baseline.
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  7553. Correct
    1
  7554. That's messed up.
    1
  7555. I'm 29. I'm a virgin I have a driver's license. I have no car, apartment education or job.
    1
  7556. Lies.
    1
  7557. Politicians don't believe unskilled workers deserve to be middle class.
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  7558.  @FletchforFreedom  you're a troll.
    1
  7559. ​ @LloydBraun9000 blame corporations not poor people.
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  7560.  @LloydBraun9000  corporations are the ones.who pay people poverty wages, thereby creating the demand for welfare in the first place. If corporations stopped desiring cheap labor, it would end.
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  7561.  @LloydBraun9000  my replies keep getting deleted.
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  7562. ​ @Wildcat82164 lol.
    1
  7563. Yep.
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  7564. ​ @alexandermcbrien264  republicans believe minimum wage workers don't deserve a living wage because their labor doesn't entitle them to a high standard of living.
    1
  7565. Canceling loans is writing off the debt as a loss....
    1
  7566. Won't work
    1
  7567. What is T ball?
    1
  7568. ​@user-od5fh3gn4dok
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  7569. So you think minimum wage workers are worthless and deserve poverty
    1
  7570. Poverty serves 13 functions
    1
  7571. Ok
    1
  7572. $10 million a year salary.
    1
  7573. Imagine making that much
    1
  7574. Their slim profit margins are a choice, as are the wages.
    1
  7575. That's called profit sharing
    1
  7576. Yep. I'm a manchild. I have no job, driver's license, or car. I have no money. I live at home with my dad. I'm 28 years old.
    1
  7577. If that was the baseline then our country has increased poverty.
    1
  7578. Lol what? Get a "real" job? So Starbucks is a fake company paying their baristas fake money giving them fake products?
    1
  7579. Except our manufacturing sector has been obliterated and replaced with low paying service jobs. Plus free college for the poor hasn't been passed. Not even free community college has.
    1
  7580. I'm incel virgin at 29. I'm not using prostitutes because you can't buy intimacy or affection
    1
  7581. I want to lose my vcard to a woman who likes me, not a random whore.
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  7582. Because those are the only jobs available now? 44% of wage earners make $35,000 a year or less. 76% of Americans are one paycheck away from destitution.
    1
  7583. Money and emotions will always fuel politics, logic is almost never used. That being said, the point here is line corporations pockets.
    1
  7584. ROFL
    1
  7585.  @randommemebean686  I haven't exercised in months
    1
  7586.  @randommemebean686  I'll change
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  7587.  @randommemebean686  okay. I will work out at home.
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  7588. Why are there any restrictions on the welfare at all? Are they saying being poor simply isn't bad enough?
    1
  7589. So do i.
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  7590. ​ @josephboone4453 I don't know if you're arguing for CEOs to make less or for cashiers to make more. You'd be fine if cashiers made $10 million??
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  7591. ​​​ @caledunsmore being a cashier is a dead-end job, that's the problem. Either the jobs should go away or pay far more, not be expected to be filled and said workers to be shamed for refusing dead-end jobs.
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  7592.  @Erstameeks  people are too poor to leave
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  7593.  @krisstopher8259  you're right
    1
  7594.  @krisstopher8259  I guess I want to change in other ways
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  7595.  @krisstopher8259  it's scary
    1
  7596. It's called the myth of meritocracy.
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  7597. Epic
    1
  7598. Because this disgusting country assigns value to people based on whether or not they can work. The idea that you don't work, you have no value is disgusting.
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  7599. I'd be pissed
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  7600. The reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  7601.  @SWe3TdRe4Mz702  it's better to not work than work shitty low wage jobs.
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  7602.  @SWe3TdRe4Mz702  I'm working and in poverty as a cashier. But I can't have a career for the next 4-5 years because of my schooling. But I can't be on welfare either due to being able bodied.
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  7603.  @SWe3TdRe4Mz702  no.
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  7604. Automation is an acceptable risk
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  7605. That's another issue yes.
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  7606. They still pay poverty wages
    1
  7607. Because corporations want poverty
    1
  7608. Exactly.
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  7609. K
    1
  7610. Yep.
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  7611. Are you kidding? I work with people whose social security is so low they have to work because they still don't make enough to make up the difference. And they have to work minimum wage as well.
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  7612.  @paulgenardi3871  of course. I'm saying poverty is terrible smh
    1
  7613. Ok
    1
  7614.  @moxygenpathogen7678  with negotiations in pay.
    1
  7615. Because they don't want working class people to have a voice.
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  7616. I know right? Imagine trying to tell people who make 7.25 an hour that they can pay off a $100,000 College tuition bill in a few months.
    1
  7617.  @dustinthewind2u  Exactly.
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  7618. These politicians know this. They just don't care.
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  7619.  @dezerayb3980  wages have been stagnant for decades.
    1
  7620. Corporations are the problem
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  7621. Blame corporations who don't want to offer healthcare to workers
    1
  7622. That's messed up.
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  7623. Lol
    1
  7624. Holy fuck.
    1
  7625. good news/follow up: I'm taking a math class at a community College. 2. I'm in a mathematics-physics internship(at the same College). 3. I work as a cashier part-time at a grocery store. 1 year ago I was a NEET who just played video games and watched movies daily, so I've made alot of progress. Today I will email school to inquire about transportation assistance(i can't afford a car), employment assistance(work on campus that provides a living wage so i can quit working minimum wage), and if I can get both I'll do school full-time, get My degree, join or lead the math club, and do one city event a day for 30 consecutive days.
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  7626. you can't have worker solidarity and poverty exist at once.
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  7627.  @BromeGrass  taxes don't fund the federal government they create a demand for currency.
    1
  7628. Lol​ @thatfatman6978 
    1
  7629. I support him.
    1
  7630. It's funny how rich people get to decide how much money poor people make... Instead of the poor themselves
    1
  7631. Right.
    1
  7632. ​ @raymarti3 holy crap
    1
  7633. So you're an other wallet warrior. You're mad that poor people get for free what others get through hard work.
    1
  7634. Yes.
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  7635. Escorts don't offer genuine affection. I'm not interested.
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  7636. That's because the rich don't want poverty to end and don't believe "unskilled" workers deserve decent pay. In their eyes, a CEO making $32 million is making too little but a waiter making $32,000 is making too much.
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  7637. the real reason politicians hate welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  7638. That's terrible.
    1
  7639. Not really no.
    1
  7640. Yep.
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  7641. what would the maximum wage be? 12 million a year?
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  7642.  @bacaestrife3615  lol mate. The CEO of Chipotle makes $38 million a year. Some CEOs make over $400 million a year. A wage ratio of 30 means MINIMUM pay of $127,000/yr to $13 MILLION.
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  7643.  @bacaestrife3615  and private equity firms employ literal billionaires. Steve cohen makes roughly $2 billion a year at his own firm by himself.
    1
  7644. They hate the poor.
    1
  7645.  @marct9942  it's a house of cards. But as long as the poor are deluded into thinking they'll be rich one day they'll keep voting for conservatives.
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  7646.  @marct9942  and to your OP. it's that fox news doesn't want everyone to be middle class
    1
  7647. ​ @Melissa0774 exactly
    1
  7648. omfg this was golden.
    1
  7649. Poor people should be the hosts as well.
    1
  7650. ​ @Hatchbasic wow
    1
  7651. They were forced to take out a loan
    1
  7652. Force poor people into crime
    1
  7653.  @latentcc9448  exactly.
    1
  7654. ​@thechampagneroom1exactly
    1
  7655. Correct
    1
  7656. I'm 29 and a freaking virgin. I hope there is a woman out there for me
    1
  7657. Yep
    1
  7658. Yep.
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  7659. Amazing how rich people receive trillions of dollars of government benefits but poor people receiving pennies is horrible.
    1
  7660. Good god.
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  7661.  @dmunjal  we're being screwed by the rich and politicians.
    1
  7662. High enough wage to be ineligible for welfare. A high enough wage to not be in poverty.
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  7663. I hope Harris fights for universal healthcare.
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  7664. That's a moral issue to you.
    1
  7665. Jesus. That means the minimum wage should be around $45/hr.
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  7666. Not everyone can work.
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  7667. ​ @Charles-js3ri he doesn't
    1
  7668.  @JimClark2005  yep. I noticed conservatives tend to subscribe to just world fallacy. In their eyes if you just work hard enough everything will be fine.
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  7669.  @itsjustavi  oh I know. It's just..like crazy how inflation has destroyed that dream. Raise a family of five on one income? You'd have to make 400k a year.
    1
  7670.  @itsjustavi  wow.
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  7671.  @teddybruscie  $15 an hour but yes.
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  7672. This made me cry.
    1
  7673.  @vinsanity40k  he supports the rich.
    1
  7674. Exactly.
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  7675. Corporations want this Already
    1
  7676. ​@angelmendez2211 he isn't using logic, he is ableist. He believes poor people don't deserve government benefits.
    1
  7677. Yes.
    1
  7678. Ok
    1
  7679.  @rebeccaspratling2865  when I worked at a supermarket I not only made $10/hr, my raise was $0.50.
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  7680. ​ @isocarboxazid okay then
    1
  7681. ​ @isocarboxazid I had excellent private insurance, but couldn't afford it due to Medicaid expansion. My premium was $20/month. I could pay that as a cashier. It went up to $436 because I lost my premium tax credits. On Medicaid, I lost my old doctors, catch hell finding new ones, and I have limited appointment slots to see even pcp
    1
  7682. Dear Leela, Republicans want to cut welfare in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. They oppose universal healthcare and free college so people will gabe crushing debt and work for lower wages. They support illegal immigration for cheap labor. They love inflation and unemployment in order to act as deterrents against a non desperate workforce.
    1
  7683. Yep
    1
  7684. Exactly
    1
  7685. Healthcare isn't a right because it's scarce
    1
  7686. Correct.
    1
  7687.  @MakeCaliGreatAgain  if the living wage is $75k, then so be it.
    1
  7688. Yes. $75k is fine.
    1
  7689. Exactly.
    1
  7690. I'll tell you why- because Republicans believe poverty is a moral failing and because welfare prevents poor people from working for slave wages
    1
  7691. ​ @brendondowdy5651 poor people have the right to have children
    1
  7692. I'm on medicaid, I get free cab rides to medicaid appointments. It's hard to find doctors.
    1
  7693. That's messed up but why do that?
    1
  7694. If you believe hard work will always give you success, then you believe in just world fallacy.
    1
  7695. Voting and gun ownership are both policy choices, not laws of nature like gravity or thermodynamics.
    1
  7696. Rights and privileges are based on priorities, and priorities can change.
    1
  7697. ​ @odinson6348  exactly
    1
  7698.  @matador677  you're more concerned about profit margins over the working poor?
    1
  7699. Not everyone can go to college. Minimum wage jobs ARE real jobs.
    1
  7700. ​ @commonsense6967 Everything has a cost
    1
  7701. Poor people have no power like myself
    1
  7702. Medicaid is awful
    1
  7703. ​ @primrosed2338 yes
    1
  7704. The government screws up Medicaid because it wants to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
    1
  7705. Disgusting.
    1
  7706. Correct.
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  7707. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country My mom died in sickness and poverty, and medicaid was expanded after her death. I lost section 8 housing and food stamps, leaving me homeless and starving if not for my dad taking me in. And news ignores the poor. I will never forgive this country for causing her death.
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  7708. Ok
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  7709. That makes my heart ache reading that. I would tax corporations three to six times the amount their employees used in welfare benefits. I'd give them a choice between that and a $15 minimum wage.
    1
  7710. As a cashier at a supermarket, I'm kept part time so I'm ineligible for benefits like paid time off and paid sick leave. I cry because when I got COVID, without paid sick leave, I literally was left to die.
    1
  7711. Yep
    1
  7712. Yep
    1
  7713. ​ @filonin2 rofl
    1
  7714. Lol.
    1
  7715.  @bigmike4133  correct. I don't vote because politicians do not care about the poor or middle class.
    1
  7716. Because the right believes in just-world fallacy, they believe society IS perfect like heaven is. Anyone can work hard enough and accomplish anything.
    1
  7717. Why isn't happening in America?
    1
  7718. ​ @PoppinCubes yep
    1
  7719. @J Dice  if politicians truly cared about ending poverty, they would tolerate whatever consequences in fighting against their poverty. They do this for women and voting, but society has a fundamental belief that women deserve voting, so we are willing to tolerate these consequences. We are unwilling to tolerate the consequences for ending poverty. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty.
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  7720. If you understand just-world fallacy, then you will understand conservatives. Since they believe america is already "perfect," then individual effort can overcome any problem, such as poverty. Thus republicans believe that poverty is a moral failing not a systemic one. Because if policies like free lunch actually did help the poor, it is implying that individual effort doesn't matter. Imagine if in a basketball game, I could change the rules to where if you miss a shot, you get more points versus if you make it. People will be upset at me because they will be admitting that the system is why one team has a harder time winning. that effort can only get you so far. Even if your favorite team wins, you know it will not have been truly fair.
    1
  7721. They oppose raising the minimum wage and unions because these two policies help the poor as well. Republicans ideologically oppose anything that helps the poor become middle-class.
    1
  7722. This is also their belief in government subsidies and bank bailouts in their eyes. Rich people and business owners have "succeeded" in the "system that works," so they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. Whereas poor people have failed, so any government help they receive is undeserving.
    1
  7723.  @MrChillerNo1  Republicans act like low wages are an individual problem.
    1
  7724.  @50043211  well I'm not old enough to run lol.
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  7725.  @noneofyourbusiness3288  That too. It's just too many people work low wage jobs.
    1
  7726. Yep. The title is misleading.
    1
  7727.  @michaelperez-alicea9181  that's enough to pay their workers $40 an hour wtf.
    1
  7728. Yep.
    1
  7729. Two big policy changes can eliminate poverty wages. The first is raising the minimum wage to a living wage. Beyond even $15, maybe even $25. The 2nd bigger thing is to bring back higher profit sharing. Under unions(which were almost universal until the 1980s) corporations on average shared 25%-30% of its profits to workers before giving it to shareholders. Some corporations even went as high as 40%. Unfortunately, with current corporate consolidation, corporations(owners) take roughly 60-80% of the profits for themselves. If you did this, you'd have cashiers at Chic Fil A making around $100,000 a year.
    1
  7730.  @kevchard5214  lobbying hasn't been outlawed which corrupts politicians. Nancy Pelosi is worth over 200 million dollars. I do not want any person who is worth that much to make policies concerning the poor. Keeping the minimum wage at 7.25 an hour is easy for her with her Millions.
    1
  7731.  @kevchard5214  yes, the government used to create a middle-class and sustained it but now that time has long passed. In the 1960s, you could get a dishwasher job and make more doing that part-time than some managers make now at fast food places(fulltime with degrees).
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  7732.  @kevchard5214  I wanted to mention something about the minimum wage, concerning fast-food and Retail. In the past four decades what fast-food and Retail owners did was standardize or make jobs more automated so that they can mass-produce things more cheaply. This required removing the skill out of jobs, making them require less education and less training. And it worked. Lower-skilled jobs produce more products, more products can be sold at lower prices, thus owners remove the skills from jobs even more making them even more products and even more money. It all became a closed loop and a snowball effect. Now these companies thrive off of low wage labor, their thin profit margins are based on bulk low skilled labor providing bulk, low priced goods
    1
  7733.  @kevchard5214  karma for him.
    1
  7734.  @kevchard5214  yeah even making $15 an hour isn't going to buy you a house these days
    1
  7735.  @kevchard5214  like I said earlier the rich themselves believe they are better than everybody else otherwise they would just give up all of their money and work for minimum wage if they thought it was so great.
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  7736.  @kevchard5214  you'd have to be a millionaire or billionaire.
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  7737. Obama tried to do exactly that but GOP blocked it. And to answer your question, it's because politicians want cheap labor to make corporations richer
    1
  7738. No.​ @josueenalien1857 
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  7739. ​ @Dingleberry69420  he hates poor people
    1
  7740. ​ @Vixyvix01 yep
    1
  7741. I want it written down in the Constitution that one job must pay enough to people for them to not be in poverty.
    1
  7742. No LOL.
    1
  7743. Yep.
    1
  7744. It requires job loyalty which doesn't exist anymore
    1
  7745. It isn't his money.
    1
  7746. Because college students control corporations....
    1
  7747. The politicians believe the rich deserve money as where as the poor don't.
    1
  7748. With just a 4% inflation adjustment over the past 40 years, a minimum wage would be $42.77 an hour.
    1
  7749. Wrong. Rich people DO care about the poor...in that rich people need poverty to exist.
    1
  7750. Because it's about priorities.
    1
  7751. Fox news is experiencing Envy over tuckers success
    1
  7752. He believes poor women shouldn't have children.
    1
  7753. Why not?
    1
  7754. Republican party hates poor women
    1
  7755. How do you feel about the $15 minimum wage?
    1
  7756.  @skyfirefly76  many more questions for you: why do you oppose a federal minimum wage but you're fine with local communities doing them? And are you implying there are other things you don't want implemented at the federal level? And isn't job loss an acceptable cost to pay if it means the remaining jobs keep people out of poverty? I'd rather to go from 10 jobs to three if the other seven paid paid people below poverty wages.
    1
  7757.  @skyfirefly76  okay.
    1
  7758.  @moon_wizard1250  wow
    1
  7759. Yep.
    1
  7760. If you can't afford $4 increase in pay your business is wrong.
    1
  7761.  @MkeKen67  so the federal government stopped?
    1
  7762. Yep
    1
  7763. But corporations are the ones who donate to politicians, not the homeless.
    1
  7764.  @2moneyhoney  yep
    1
  7765. My standards for women are 0 and I'm still a virgin.
    1
  7766. I used tinder, hinge, bumble, to no avail. Asking women for sex IRL didn't work either.
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  7767. ​@littleblackfox1 you're right I'm not owed sex. I must either pay for it or work for it.
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  7768. You're fine with them making $40 an hour?
    1
  7769. Yep.
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  7770. They wouldn't work for $30 an hour.
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  7771. Colleges can be capped on tuition prices yes.
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  7772. Their answer is always the same: whatever weakens the poor and empowers the rich.
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  7773. @Beastmann3d  except poor people already work. What you're demanding is ridiculous. Rich people work, receive your tax money to the tune of trillions, have enough money to never work again, yet they still work AND you approve of them receiving far more money than the poor.  2. You assume everyone can get the career they want. If it was as easy as you claim, the working poor would not exist. 3. You are going on a polemic about how the government is subsidizing indolence. This means you are opposed to the inconveniences which would would poverty's elimination. You refuse to accept the risk of subsidizing laziness even though doing so would abolish poverty.
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  7774. Many poor people work
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  7775.  @Lofi_Pixel_Witch  okay.
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  7776.  @seanyiscubsfan1  because politicians have two axioms one that rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor. Anything which helps the poor, is by definition, unfair. Two they believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  7777. Cap tuition prices. Duh!
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  7778. I'm 28. I decided to never vote since politicians are corporate owned.
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  7779. Because those Republicans believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
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  7780. I'm poor. I can't afford it.
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  7781. They'd cry.
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  7782. Jesus.
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  7783. Rich people will keep getting government money
    1
  7784. Why do they do that?
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  7785.  @mikenike97L6  I've seen many political polls that show that conservatives often have less empathy than liberals.
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  7786.  @mikenike97L6  in other words that conservatives are often unable to relate to people who live in different circumstances than their own.
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  7787. Wow.
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  7788. Ok
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  7789. ​ @JohnA...  Are you fine with the cash you're making enough to afford a home? In other words you want minimum wage workers to make enough to live?
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  7790.  @JohnA...  Why insult me? Do you know how many people I've met who believe minimum wage workers don't deserve $15/hr?
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  7791.  @JohnA...  I know you support a living wage. I wanted to know if you support an even higher thriving wage.
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  7792.  @omarthescriblomale8279  You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how corporations work. It does not matter if the job is low skilled or not, the corporations are profitable nonetheless. With the profits that places like Chick-fil-A makes they could pay their cashiers around $100,000 a year. There are literally tens of millions of minimum wage jobs in existence. Many workers have limited skills and immediate needs, which means they don't have enough bargaining power to negotiate for higher pay. Like I said already, yes start a business...not everyone can do that.
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  7793.  @omarthescriblomale8279  Put my money where my mouth is? I don't vote for the precise reason that this country wants poverty. I stand by my principles that the real reason people like you oppose a living wage minimum wages is because you believe that these workers are asking to be paid more money than their labor entitles them to earn. It has nothing to do with expense in everything to do with status. If Walmart made 50 trillion dollars in profit every nanosecond and could afford to pay their cashiers $5 million dollars a week I bet you would oppose them making that much.
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  7794.  @omarthescriblomale8279  not everyone can start one, no. Worth is quite literally one of the two fundamental tenets of politics, the other being scarcity.
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  7795.  Michael Euthanasia  good for you.
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  7796.  @cassady7169  You're assuming you work full time, I don't work full time because if I did I'd be eligible for benefits, so I work part-time and make 12K a year at 10.50 an hour. So I'm in poverty. I'd still be in poverty at even 20k.
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  7797.  @cassady7169  the poverty threshold is kept artificially low to hide the magnitude of poverty
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  7798. ​ @omarthescriblomale8279  you aren't paid based on how hard you work.
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  7799. @OmarThescriblomale  if a cashier works by themselves, they make the same. If they work hard when 11 other registers are closed. They make the same. Their wage never increases no matter how long someone is employed there.
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  7800.  @omarthescriblomale8279  You've proven my point. You aren't paid based on how hard you work. You're paid based on how hard you are to replace.
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  7801.  @omarthescriblomale8279  being a cashier doesn't give you skills
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  7802.  @omarthescriblomale8279  yep.
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  7803. Yep
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  7804. Yep.
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  7805. I'm improving my life, but I'm still poor and a virgin.
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  7806. Poverty is a policy choice.
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  7807. I would tax Corporations SIX times the amount the government spends on welfare, that would end all of these crappy, low-paying jobs very quickly.
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  7808. Wow
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  7809. Jesus
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  7810. ​ @michaeltabanao8092 why aren't they equal?
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  7811. @notyourtypicalwatchreview2563  you oppose a living wage as a moral issue: you believe minimum wage workers don't deserve $20/hr, much less $50 or $60. Your opposition to a living wage isn't about inflation or unemployment or taxes or anything like that in an economic sense.
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  7812. Conservatives hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  7813. It's why the ubi failed under Nixon.
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  7814. Millions of people make far less than that.
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  7815. That's messed up
    1
  7816. Why stop at adulthood?
    1
  7817. Exactly
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  7818. Epic.
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  7819. Boom
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  7820. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once The truth to our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  7821. ​ @brandogg so you want poor people to remain poor/underclass
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  7822. Yep.. The friends actors make $20 million a year off of reruns too.
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  7823. It sucks.
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  7824. Yep
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  7825. Beautiful
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  7826. factory jobs were eradicated and replaced with service sector jobs.
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  7827. The jobs have been dumbed down to have the lowest skill ceiling possible.
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  7828. It's insulting.
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  7829. Ok.
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  7830. You could be paid what you want because wages are controlled by people..
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  7831.  @mypillowguy445  nothing.
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  7832. Because Trump wants poor people to work for slave wages, this involves scrapping Medicare and Medicaid.
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  7833. That's messed up.
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  7834. 94% of venezuelans live in poverty.
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  7835. I wish. It exists to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  7836. yep. walmart keeps its workers part-time to avoid overtime pay and other benefits.
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  7837.  @salex3873  I think Republicans hate poor people. That's their main objective. Punish the poor.
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  7838. Yep.
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  7839. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. I'm trying to lose my virginity and keep failing.
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  7840.  Донецкая Народная Республика  I'm broke.
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  7841. These mega corps make enough to pay its workers 100k a year.
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  7842. Do it
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  7843. ​ @greghauser742  yes it is.
    1
  7844. My mom died in sickness and poverty, and medicaid was expanded after her death. I lost section 8 housing and food stamps, leaving me homeless and starving if not for my dad taking me in. And news ignores the poor. I will never forgive this country for causing her death.
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  7845. ​@blanketyblank604 he's an other wallet warrior- what he is really mad about is poor people getting benefits for free that others have to work for.
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  7846. Exactly
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  7847. I'm working on getting a used car for my first car. if I was rich I'd want a brand new Nissan rogue 2024.
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  7848.  @PolymorphBanana  i think this MW debate is hatred over the poor.
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  7849. They're not against illegal immigration because they want slave labor
    1
  7850. I need to change
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  7851. Gives too much power to workers
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  7852. Correct.
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  7853. What you aren't understanding is conservatives want poverty to exist.
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  7854. The real reason conservatives and politicians want poverty is to force poor people to accept slave wages.
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  7855. Herbert gans functions of poverty: 1. Poverty ensures society's "dirty work" gets done.
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  7856. ​ @crobinson2624 I agree with you
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  7857. Too bad conservatives don't believe this
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  7858. They wouldn't.
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  7859. Evil
    1
  7860. It can be made a crime to raise prices. The big problem with a ubi is it gives workers too much bargaining power.
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  7861.  @gwills9337  that's $62,000 a year.
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  7862.  @gwills9337  that's 62k. 208k and 416k.
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  7863.  @DumboDelight  there's a site that already has a living wage accounting for cost of living.
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  7864. Which is the EXACT reason why republicans hate welfare and UBI.
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  7865. Yep
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  7866. The poor people's campaign estimates the poverty rate at close to half the country. Something like 140 million people, or 43% of the population, are poor or low income.
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  7867. Politicians don't want this done for several reasons: They want welfare to be restricted to force poor people to accept minimum wage Welfare spending would skyrocket States would have to provide more funding than it receives for welfare programs
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  7868. Yes
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  7869. I cried reading this. I need scholarships to go to community college alone. And a grant to go to university as a visiting student. I will need even more scholarships since I need healthcare and other living expenses covered.
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  7870. My city has terrible public transportation, forcing me to have a car.
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  7871. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education grant?
    1
  7872. So I'm a 27 year old male virgin. I don't never kissed. Dated. Or held hands. If I lowered my standards women would sleep with me?
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  7873. Ok
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  7874. That's correct. But our economy runs on poverty so raising the minimum wage is the bad thing.
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  7875. Or that dating apps don't work because i haven't landed a single date.
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  7876. Yep
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  7877. I'd pay congress minimum wage.
    1
  7878. To promote poverty
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  7879. ​ @gotem9950 I just looked up Jodi adrias. That's messed up.
    1
  7880. Yes
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  7881. ​ @jessiematthews6339 yep
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  7882.  @Blowtorch2snowflakes  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone who works there is a kid. Someone has to work there. Being in high school doesn't mean you deserve poverty.
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  7883.  @Blowtorch2snowflakes  but not all high schoolers are supported by middle class parents. Not everyone can work there way up from minimum wage work. Not everyone can work full-time. Not everyone can have skilled positions or work at all. I don't believe anyone believes deep down that somehow either all lower end jobs should disappear or all people who work will never need government assistance.
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  7884.  @Blowtorch2snowflakes  all priorities are not created equal. all change has a price. every decision has a trade-off. the truth of our politics centers around the risks we choose to mitigate. If ensuring livable wages was the top priority, then all other priorities would pay the price. Everything is a trade-off. If a living wage really magnifies unemployment, business bankruptcy, and inflation, then so be it. On top of that, you should be mad at corporations who want cheap slave labor, not the poor wanting to better themselves. Don't criticize poor people who are demonized if they refuse to work dead-end jobs or demonize them still if poor people work them but demand to be paid more. If the job is worthy of existing, pay that person a living wage. Period.
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  7885.  @Blowtorch2snowflakes  markets are literally influenced by governments. You say that as if the government has no say in the matter. Since minimum wage jobs are dead-end, then by definition they don't lead to skills or career advancement. If every low wage worker tried their best tomorrow, most of them would not get promoted. They would be stuck in that low wage job. So it's false to expect every low wage worker to be able to move up or move on. We as a society politically decide that poverty wages are acceptable.
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  7886.  @Blowtorch2snowflakes  markets are affected by the government. There is no way to separate the two. It's great that you progressed. But everyone. Does. Not. Progress. And cannot progress if these jobs are to be filled by somebody. What you're really saying, is some people should live in poverty and be fine with it. I don't support that idea because then I'm happy with corporations being subsidized to pay poverty wages.
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  7887. I'm not using an escort
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  7888. There's monopsony power with unskilled workers.
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  7889. Yes
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  7890. You're correct.
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  7891. Ok
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  7892. Ok
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  7893.  @casual35  lol
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  7894.  @LovelovelyJesus  yes.
    1
  7895. Exactly.
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  7896. Minimum wage doesn't affect skilled positions. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills
    1
  7897.  @interfectus99  correct. Not unless you raised the minimum wage to $60/hr.
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  7898.  @patchwurk6652  that's messed up.
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  7899.  @lorimoore5589  I think politicians don't want poverty to end.
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  7900. Not true....
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  7901. It's about prioritization. It depends on what suffering courts find acceptable.
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  7902. Then what is quantitative easing? That's the fed giving money to rich people.
    1
  7903. Yep.
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  7904. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  7905. You can't enforce this
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  7906. It cost more to use a cab to get to and from a minimum wage job than what you make from working the job.
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  7907. That math is incorrect.
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  7908. Then argue for that
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  7909. Scholarship is like private donations, there is no limit on how much donation money a person can receive.
    1
  7910. Wow.
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  7911. That's messed up.
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  7912. I'm nearly and still a virgin. I can't afford a hooker and even if I could, I know she isn't truly attracted to me.
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  7913. College was much cheaper. McDonald's is paying 25/hr only because of record unemployment from covid. It isn't like McDonald's wasn't aware that 8.50 was a poverty wage before 2020....
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  7914. ​ @James.99  intimacy can't be bought.
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  7915. ​ @Avalanche616  I identified as incel for 6 years. I've recently dropped the ideology but no one will truly believe me unless I lose my virginity.
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  7916. Exactly
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  7917. Wow
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  7918. I'm trying man. For starters, I need to plan better. Then fix my health, then forge a career.
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  7919. My main limitations at 28 are having no skills and no independence. A woman wanted to date me, but I had no driver's license or car. She didn't want to drive me around.
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  7920. ​ @cassady7169  because politicians don't want to end poverty.
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  7921.  @proggz39  how?
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  7922.  @marccru  holy crap.
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  7923. Correct
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  7924.  @pnut3844able  okay.
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  7925.  @pnut3844able  so are you saying I should accept my pay as is?
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  7926.  @pnut3844able  ok
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  7927.  @pnut3844able  my replies are gone but I understand you.
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  7928. My two medications are $2,300 a month without insurance, and my marketplace insurance premium is $600 a month. I can't get premium tax credits anymore to keep my private health insurance premium cheap because NC approved Medicaid expansion. I'm poor working minimum wage while in school so I am forced onto Medicaid.
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  7929. Because they believe the poor need to be motivated to work harder by receiving less money.
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  7930. Blind love It's like markets are magic ROFL
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  7931. ​ @LordRenegrade holy crap
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  7932. I'm kept part-time because due to the Obama care work mandate, if I was full-time, I'd receive healthcare, PTO, etc..
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  7933.  @dmitriglover4309  that's a double standard.
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  7934. Evil
    1
  7935. Companies are willing to do that because they pay workers by Skill, Not profitability. McDonald's and Walmart and Chick-fil-A are all multibillion-dollar corporations, but every single one of their cashiers is eligible for food stamps. Why? Because a cashier is an unskilled position. The job will never pay a lot no matter how much money to company makes
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  7936. I know brother. I made $10 an hour 8 months ago as a cashier, I received a 50 cent raise.
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  7937.  @joerob5917  I don't know if you're trolling me or not.
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  7938. Republicans want poor people to work for slave wages offered by corporations.
    1
  7939. That's messed up.
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  7940. $6 in 1970(what some fry cooks made then) with 3% annual inflation for 41 years equals $42/hr now.
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  7941. I believe something like 60% of households do not have enough liquid assets to survive for 6 months if the primary sources of income were lost.
    1
  7942. Exactly.
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  7943. American economy runs on poverty.
    1
  7944. To keep poor people around
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  7945. Only the poor, my friend. Just like a conservative.
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  7946. @julesdalli9716  the cruelty is the point. Conservatives morally oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class. They don't believe poor people deserve to be middle class.
    1
  7947. ​ @Said_w_the_G exactly
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  7948. Pelosi has a net worth of $200 million.
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  7949. ​ @fightfannerd2078  why not?
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  7950. Because politicians don't believe food or housing are rights.
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  7951.  @Hope-qy8dr  sounds good.
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  7952. $28.13 now. And college was $898 back then. It's $10,000 now
    1
  7953. Yes. Come up with $200k for college making $17k a year? What a joke.
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  7954. That's messed up.
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  7955.  @mitch7525  people call the minimum wage a "training" wage.
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  7956. Exactly
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  7957. ​ @lileos2837 wow
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  7958. Wow.
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  7959.  @Pixel5564  these jobs are dead end. There are too many low wage " entry-level" jobs and too few white collar skilled jobs. Stocking shelves does not provide you with transferable skills nor with sufficient money to pursue college.
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  7960.  @Pixel5564  using personal insults is childish. Goodbye.
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  7961.  @Pixel5564  dumb argument.
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  7962.  @Pixel5564  why are you like this?
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  7963. I've identified as incel for a long time. I'm still a virgin but not bitter or hateful towards women.
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  7964. Epic.
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  7965. ​ @dontmisunderstand6041  yep.
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  7966. The irony of your statement is you couldn't work 80 anyway because then you'd be offered benefits. You'd need TWO full-time jobs to work 80 hours a week.
    1
  7967. yep.
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  7968.  @tioswift3676  The minimum wage has not been increased in over ten years.
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  7969.  @tioswift3676  it hasn't been increased in my state.
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  7970. ​@Tio Swift not high enough to eliminate SNAP obviously.
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  7971. ​@Tio Swift that sounds like the income limit is too low
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  7972. Exactly.
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  7973. Try 2,000%.
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  7974. Lol
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  7975. Yes.
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  7976. I'm WANTING TO LOSE MY VIRGINITY SO SEVERELY AS AN INCEL. I'm happy for this guy!!
    1
  7977. Ha
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  7978. Yep
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  7979.  @bboylyte8639  they want poverty to exist to feel superior about being wealthy.
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  7980. Won't help me because they don't like me
    1
  7981. Yep.
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  7982.  @lewiskanevsky8461  messed up..
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  7983. Exactly.
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  7984. I want to be a journalist, but I'm poor and unskilled.
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  7985.  @censorshipisreal3153  Rachel Maddow makes $30 million a year. I don't think she's poor anywhere on Earth.
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  7986. Wow.
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  7987. Evil
    1
  7988.  @thebenc1537  you have the right to own a gun. Ownership is up to you not up to the government. It's optional to own a gun.
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  7989.  @thebenc1537  you don't need a gun to live. Not true for healthcare.
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  7990.  @thebenc1537  ok
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  7991.  @thebenc1537  my point is the government doesn't need to intervene to provide firearms where as it does to healthcare.
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  7992.  @thebenc1537  the poor are not guaranteed healthcare. Medicaid expansion has been denied in many states like my own. Anyone 25 or older with no kids or disabilities cannot get Medicaid no matter how low their income is. Even if Medicaid was expanded it doesn't cover all treatments/procedures. And these are besides the core issue: if people could afford healthcare on their own there would be no debate over costs of healthcare. Or college, or housing, or transportation, or anything for that matter. The core issue is that there are rich and poor people. Make sure noone is poor and you don't need charities/government programs Medicaid. And without poor people there are no rich people by comparison.
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  7993.  @thebenc1537  The poor can and have been denied healthcare.
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  7994.  @thebenc1537  don't push harders for Charities because that is dealing with the fruit of the problem and not the root. The core problem is our society allows an upper, middle, and lower class but then I hear people complain about the very problems that allowing such classes to exist create in the first place. It would be like coming across someone who is starving. You know they simply need food but when you give them food you give them not enough food to where they aren't starving anymore and you keep coming back. Just give them enough food from the get-go and you don't have to keep coming back. Make it to where everyone has enough money to where no one is poor and middle class or Rich by comparison and people can afford whatever healthcare they want.
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  7995.  @thebenc1537  you ignored everything I said. And to your current points: Full bellies? Because of food stamps, charities, and unhealthy food being cheaper there's no hunger. If these programs ended and the poor had to pay for food out of pocket there'd be massive hunger. Homes? Section 8 housing and people paying far too much for rent and mortgage. Again, if people weren't poor they could afford homes with no reliance on Section 8 or anything else. Cars? More expensive than they were decades ago and massive auto loan debt exists as well. Internet and smart phones? Please tell me you don't believe that using the internet or having a cell phone somehow means you make enough to afford healthcare, or anything else you've mentioned.
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  7996. That's disgusting.
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  7997. A business can't function without employees. The owner makes nothing without his workforce.
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  7998. And the owner creates such entry level jobs to justify keeping most of the money.
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  7999. I'm one. I should. And will. Stop call myself incel.
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  8000. Correct.
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  8001. Ok
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  8002. I cried reading this
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  8003. I've stopped calling myself incel.
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  8004. Welfare is restricted to force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs
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  8005. Wow.
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  8006. That's messed up.
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  8007. That's messed up.
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  8008. LOL.
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  8009. Wow.
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  8010. I'm incel but not hateful towards women.
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  8011.  @chezsuzie  yep
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  8012.  @bane3991  I'll admit that experience does matter, but it starts out with having education or responsibility though. I've been a cashier for over 6 months, according to the logic of "experience" if I stay a cashier for 2 years does that mean I get paid as much as someone who has an associate's degree? If I stay for 4 years does that mean I get paid as much as someone who has a bachelor's degree, much less in say, aerospace engineering? No. Not at all. And you've proven my point about climbing the corporate ladder. Yes if you started an entry-level job you might get a pay increase. But you will never get a pay increase to the point of where it matches getting promoted. An entry level software engineer will never be paid as much as a project lead or senior level software engineer(Let's say they manage a whole team or all software engineering departments in a particular county), no matter how long you stay at entry level. The only ways to substantially increase your salary, regardless of the industry you're in, is to take on more education or more responsibility. And this is a tangent but this is why corporations like McDonald's and Chick-fil-A and Walmart make billions of dollars in profits every year, but their cashiers are on food stamps. why? Because the job is low skill and thus it will never pay a lot no matter how much money the company makes. With the profits Chick-fil-A makes their cashiers could be making six figures, but that is not the reality.
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  8013.  @bane3991  The bottom line is though you do have to earn a higher salary, and I agree working minimum wage will never get you to the point of making enough to raise a family.
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  8014.  @bane3991  I agree with you. I believe I can and should and will move beyond being a cashier. I just have to earn it.
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  8015.  @Nyckidd  yep
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  8016.  @bane3991  I've wanted to be a paid Screenwriter. I had an opportunity to join a writing class a while back. I joined it and passed and won a film writing competition afterwards. I was told if I kept submitting stories I could be offered a tv show writing spot or get a film writing grant and make my own short film or web series.
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  8017.  @bane3991  I lost financial aid due to me having poor grades. But I'm still allowed to receive grants and scholarships, if I put in the work to apply for them.
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  8018. I can't see my replies anymore
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  8019. Because it's about control. As long as poor people don't have welfare, then they are forced to work for whatever wages they can get.
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  8020. And the dependency argument is about poor people not deserving government aid
    1
  8021. Incels don't want a woman who fakes liking you.
    1
  8022. Yes.
    1
  8023. Correct.
    1
  8024. The problem is our country demonizes cashiers. "Flipping burgers" is tantamount to rape.
    1
  8025.  @DeltaWho4  It's about status, it's not about expense. Rich people need to feel superior to everyone else. And they also need to tell themselves they are morally justified in having such obscene wealth.
    1
  8026. If you're poor don't breed em
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  8027. I love it's rich people being asked about the economy, and NEVER the poor. I'd be glad to be on air! I'm a minimum wage worker and self supporting college student
    1
  8028. Why are you treating them like they're rapists?
    1
  8029. Their voter base is dumb enough to buy it and poor people can't afford to run for office or fight back
    1
  8030. I'm crying reading that
    1
  8031. So in 40 years the minimum wage hasn't even been increased by four DOLLARS?!
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  8032. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier.
    1
  8033. Noone fact checks these brain dead arguments.
    1
  8034. I'm doing it.
    1
  8035. The poverty line is kept artificially low.
    1
  8036. Wow
    1
  8037. Yep
    1
  8038. He is experiencing lack of sex without consent- in his eyes.
    1
  8039. Exactly.
    1
  8040. Wow
    1
  8041. Every problem is an individual one to them.
    1
  8042. A prostitute doesn't offer genuine affection. So I'd still be incel after using one.
    1
  8043. I really want to lose my virginity. I believe I'll get there one day
    1
  8044.  @ZonarFubarski  I could do that without joining the military.
    1
  8045.  @ZonarFubarski  I could easily use a hooker.
    1
  8046.  @ZonarFubarski  lol. I guess I'm not really incel then.
    1
  8047.  @ZonarFubarski  do you look down on men who use hookers?
    1
  8048. Thank you!
    1
  8049. A prostitute is only sleeping with you because of money. She doesn't desire you.
    1
  8050. Choice
    1
  8051. That's not the real reason conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage
    1
  8052. Their Ethical Code Says It’s Morally Wrong To Pay People More Than They Think Their Low-Level Abilities Entitle Them To Earn
    1
  8053. It sucks
    1
  8054. Yep
    1
  8055. I'm a kissless virgin at 29. I want to lose my virginity.
    1
  8056. Okay, but how is it fair women can have sex whenever they want to but I can't?(As a straight man)
    1
  8057.  @hombre-lobo5673  I have thought about using a hooker.
    1
  8058. Beautiful.
    1
  8059. In america, schools are funded by property taxes, which exacerbates poverty
    1
  8060. Yes but meritocracy props up capitalism so people believe in both.
    1
  8061. Republicans hate welfare because 1. They oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
    1
  8062. Exactly this!!
    1
  8063. Yep.
    1
  8064. ​ @Progressive_Alien that isn't what politicians mean when they say welfare destroys work incentive. What politicians actually mean by this is the money earned from low-wage jobs is no larger than the income grant.
    1
  8065. Politicians and the rich believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  8066.  @harold5560  yes. I know. I love and hate political analysis at the same time.
    1
  8067. Because you can't buy intimacy.
    1
  8068. Exactly.
    1
  8069.  @protorhinocerator142  minimum wage Prevents exploitation. Employees have too little bargaining power compared to the employers due to Market concentrations, financialization, technological innovations, and the destruction of unions and other worker benefits(all 50 states are at-will employment).
    1
  8070.  The Ghey Mantis  no i didn't. I'm saying employers have too much bargaining power.
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  8071.  The Ghey Mantis  wages are supposed to be based on what both sides want, not just one.
    1
  8072.  @steves6756  your well being IS the employer' s responsibility. It's hypocritical for employers to care about their own well-being, but not the employees, whom they depend on. And employees can't work if they're sick or dead, so it is in the employer's best interest for them to stay healthy. It is not supply and demand, a business with no employees is no different than a business with no customers. McDonald's cashiers should make $7 because they're unskilled according to you, but without those workers, the business doesn't function, skill or skill. And again YOU'RE ADMITTING no individual worker negotiates their own way. If they did, we would not have half a workforce that makes $40k a year or less.
    1
  8073.  The Ghey Mantis Yes. Even if it didn't, most employees are still poor. Thus, they're willing to work whatever wage is offered, even if it isn't what they truly want, because the alternative is much worse-dying. Lesser of two evils.
    1
  8074.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  okay man. You're just ignoring me. That's fine.
    1
  8075.  @jessiehoward158  dumb argument.
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  8076.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  we're done. You're ignoring employer power
    1
  8077.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  good at your job? So if i flip burgers well, I'll make as much money as i want? No questions asked? You're delusional.
    1
  8078.  I only use this account when I get put in time out  I was saying you were ignoring my talking points, considering them pointless. I wasn't criticizing your response time.
    1
  8079. @Kyla Dumont you'd need to make $31.25 per hour for that to cost 30% of your income, and that's assuming no taxes. I wish there was price control on housing.
    1
  8080. @Kyla Dumont I'd ban all millionaires and billionaires from owning more than 1 home. NO Republican would like that.
    1
  8081. @Kyla Dumont You'd need to make $133k a year, no taxes, to pay off such a house in 5 years. That's with the same 30% limitation i mentioned before. You'd need to make way more to buy such a house outright, not to mention buying a house for your children.... Only rich people can live comfortably.
    1
  8082. ​@Rae Tavia exactly.
    1
  8083. He makes $45 million a year.
    1
  8084. I'm a kissless virgin at 29. I've never hugged or held hands either. I've been trying for 6 years to get laid.
    1
  8085. That's crazy.
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  8086. When money is spent to help the poor(free college, minimum wage, Medicare for all)it is called an "entitlement" but when money is spent to help the rich and powerful it is called an "investment." Politicians and the rich believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing. Adding it all up it turns out the rich receives far more money than the poor and people still shit on the poor for the money that they make even though it's far less than the rich and they're still poor even with the money they get.
    1
  8087. Employers want others to work for free, but not themselves
    1
  8088. They tend to lack empathy.
    1
  8089. That's why fast food is only open during the Summer.
    1
  8090. ​ @dataphoenix8004 he hates minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty.
    1
  8091.  @dataphoenix8004  okay
    1
  8092.  @dataphoenix8004  all right
    1
  8093. Yep
    1
  8094. You can't force poor people to not have kids
    1
  8095.  @ericgen1231  unless you want to limit reproduction for poor people, then yes, you will have to pay for welfare.
    1
  8096.  @ericgen1231  of course. The price of poverty has to be paid by someone.
    1
  8097.  @ericgen1231  that's fine.
    1
  8098. Yep.
    1
  8099.  @shinygiveaways1920  if prostitution was the solution to incels then Elliot Rodger wouldn't have did what he did. He could afford hookers.
    1
  8100. You can't force women to not have children or sex​ @fromthecheapseats7126 
    1
  8101. You need to be rich to run for office
    1
  8102. I considered myself incel.
    1
  8103. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. I'm poor so I can't hire a hooker and I'm socially inept so I can't charm women either.
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  8104. Let me explain to you what you and Kyle are not understanding. Conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors demanded $15 an hour the same conservatives would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage then. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status. It's not an economics issue to them it's a moral one. In their eyes some workers are simply undeserving of being paid enough to live.
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  8105. People are paid by skill, you either need more education or more responsibility. In conservatives eyes this also translates to their moral value. If anyone anywhere could just make anything they wanted or enough to live that's rewarding failure, that's rewarding lack of effort. If a cashier could make six figures, you are fundamentally paying someone whose job doesn't require a lot of effort something they don't deserve.
    1
  8106. That's messed up
    1
  8107. I'm an incel and that made me cry. Why am I lonely?
    1
  8108. I'm saying I've been incel for a long time.
    1
  8109. ​ @lucasnedtargos poverty is unacceptable.
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  8110. ​ @burning4rmwithin not true
    1
  8111. @andromedaspark2241  I wish I had a $4 million education grant or scholarship
    1
  8112.  @leonbxxhhxnc majority of Americans want free college and healthcare, especially the poor. But politicians vote against our interests
    1
  8113. ​ @smartmama7928 able-bodied is to imply poor people don't deserve help.
    1
  8114. Corporations want poverty
    1
  8115. ​ @onceuponanexploration6048 yes
    1
  8116. ​@daniel mankinde I don't think people deserve poverty because they work some arbitrarily named "entry-level" job. Robbery is not acceptable if we renamed it Martha.
    1
  8117. ​ @danielmankinde1706  25? Why is that bad? It isn't taking money out of your wallet
    1
  8118.  @danielmankinde1706  quit and go...where? Most jobs pay shit thanks to inflation. Most jobs are entry-level on top of that. College is too expensive for someone working at Starbucks to afford. Unless you think a barista can amass a $10k-$20k fortune in one summer.
    1
  8119. @daniel mankinde  these workers want to dictate for themselves how much they make. Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
    1
  8120. that is wrong.
    1
  8121. PRO WRITERS STRIKE
    1
  8122. Yep
    1
  8123. I want sex
    1
  8124. LOL.
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  8125.  @JE-western-rider  newflash: everyone is dependent on the government from cradle to grave. You're acting like nobody relies on police, military or schools.
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  8126. @mikelcollins9273  except the core problem here is that many people hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty.
    1
  8127. Except many people don't want poverty to end​ @mikelcollins9273 
    1
  8128.  @meowmix705  he hates the poor for doing nothing
    1
  8129. It's just a start.
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  8130. Republicans oppose this.
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  8131. Correct. The rich put themselves on a different pedestal than the poor.
    1
  8132. Yep.
    1
  8133. It's called the myth of meritocracy.
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  8134. That's the point. To perpetuate poverty. The reason welfare is not robust is that poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  8135. Republicans tie welfare to work to ensure there is always a reliable workforce to fill low wage,low benefit, jobs that are dead-end: minimum wage jobs.
    1
  8136. You are correct. I'm a former incel
    1
  8137. ​@xminusone1 you're right. I was an incel for 6 years
    1
  8138. ​@xminusone1 I'm still a virgin but I don't have hatred anymore.
    1
  8139.  @hannamakela6989  I'm a community college student, scifi fan, and aspiring physicist and screenwriter.
    1
  8140. You can't cap wealth, only income.
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  8141. Wrong take away message. What UBI does is eliminate the power differential between employees and employers.
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  8142.  Hasel Basil  I'm an incel.
    1
  8143.  @trihardcx6743  correct.
    1
  8144. Poor people can't afford to run for office.
    1
  8145. Exactly. PREACH.
    1
  8146. Sure. Start a billion dollar corporation on your $8.50/hr wage.
    1
  8147. ​ @spectre3492  LOL
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  8148.  @Camazotz-kz9wr  yep. It's sad and makes me cry as a cashier too.
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  8149.  @Camazotz-kz9wr  I'm treated like I'm worthless when all I want is a middle class life.
    1
  8150.  @Camazotz-kz9wr  would you be upset if got a scholarship for being low income? Or would it matter the amount? $10k? $100k? $10 million? $100 million?
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  8151. capitalists buy into the myth of meritocracy because the implication that merit is a sham means all rich people stole their wealth, that success is a result of cheating. This would make any amount of effort worthless since anyone can be successful with enough help.
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  8152. If I made 10 million a year I'd lie all day too
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  8153. I'm making $10.50/hr as a cashier and $15/hr at 4 hrs/week as intern. Taking the cab to go to and from work costs more than what I make. I have no savings. No nothing.
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  8154. It's called Calvinism.
    1
  8155. Wow
    1
  8156. Wow.
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  8157. ​ @philipvipond2669 yes
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  8158. I'm 29 years old guy. Can I sleep with a 20 year old?
    1
  8159. Except Republicans want poverty
    1
  8160. Even assuming you get OT.
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  8161. I'm too poor to finish Community College, much less University. I hope I win a full ride scholarship.
    1
  8162. Okay, and?
    1
  8163. That's messed up
    1
  8164. Exactly
    1
  8165. I'll make a video on it.
    1
  8166. I'm lazy
    1
  8167. You're assuming most guys get attention on said apps. I've used tinder alone for 6 years to no avail.
    1
  8168. Although I'm not ugly.
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  8169. How do I lose my virginity when I have 0 standards?
    1
  8170.  @schlafschafweb  I know. I'm incel reading that. You're saying sex is NOT a right?
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  8171.  @schlafschafweb  you're right. How can I be more attractive? By having self-confidence, gaining skills, and being independent (driver's license, car, apartment).
    1
  8172. ​ @schlafschafweb I focus too much on sex when I know deep down life isn't easy or fair. I just expect sex to come easily, without any effort on my part. I expect women to fix my problems for me.
    1
  8173.  @schlafschafweb  thanks
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  8174.  @AppleSauceGamingChannel  Why did Obama bail out the rich then.
    1
  8175. Wow
    1
  8176. Right.
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  8177. And if the internship is paid. It's part-time so you don't get Obamacare.
    1
  8178. And the pay is shit as well.
    1
  8179. Yep
    1
  8180. Not genuine affection.
    1
  8181. inflation is an acceptable risk. You're saying it's more important to have low prices, than for workers to have a living wage.
    1
  8182. poverty keeps workers in line.
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  8183. If I'm still a virgin by 30, my life is over
    1
  8184. Ok
    1
  8185. Exactly.
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  8186.  @colleenpeck6347  I didn't. but yes
    1
  8187.  @gustavocvieira8584  If you make $11/hr you by definition aren't accumulating $20 million any time soon.
    1
  8188. Yep.
    1
  8189. That's messed up
    1
  8190. He prefers worker to be in poverty, versus workers to have power.
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  8191. @W  yes. But unfortunately they are too corrupted by power to see things long-term, to be compassionate, to realize people's lives are on the line.
    1
  8192. Universal basic income would abolish poverty and politicians don't want them.
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  8193. Yes
    1
  8194. More poor people than rich people.
    1
  8195. The myth of meritocracy is strong.
    1
  8196. Those are simple math problems that can be accounted for. And crime is a policy choice therefore corporations can be outlawed from retaliating.
    1
  8197. Exactly. What no politician is willing to say is they believe the rich provide all of the value in society and therefore they should receive all of the money whereas the poor provide no value for society and thus should receive no money.
    1
  8198. Most politicians fundamentally oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class because these senators believe that poor people have "already had the chance" to become middle class or Rich therefore helping them become middle-class anyway is rewarding failure.
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  8199.  @joycewible8816  because if the world is NOT just then effort doesn't matter.
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  8200.  @joycewible8816  if you admit the world is not just then effort means nothing.
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  8201.  @joycewible8816  I know. I'm saying if you admit society is not just you admit that effort alone isn't enough to succeed. Would you like it if I failed medical school but received a medical degree anyway? That's how conservatives view any policy which helps the poor.
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  8202. You're messed up.
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  8203. Yep
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  8204. I'm too poor to afford a sex worker plus it's illegal
    1
  8205. You can't pay someone to like you.
    1
  8206. I'm dead.
    1
  8207. Yep
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  8208. You're right. As an incel myself, i know you're right. I'm incel virgin at 29. I'm broke and have no car.
    1
  8209. I've been obsessed with science fiction since middle school. You've inspired me to share my autism and teach about the science of scifi.
    1
  8210. Because many people think fast food workers deserve poverty.
    1
  8211. ​ @mikeveis2395  yep
    1
  8212. They are showing their true colors, yes.
    1
  8213.  @FletchforFreedom  you're a troll.
    1
  8214. Ok
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  8215. Yep.
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  8216. Chic fil a could pay cashiers $100,000/yr.
    1
  8217. Yep
    1
  8218. I need to stop being lazy and work for sex. I want to lose my virginity so much.
    1
  8219. I'm an incel by choice
    1
  8220. Justifying poverty... That's like justifying rape....
    1
  8221.  @Grannyknockers  that is a lie.
    1
  8222. You believe in just-world fallacy.
    1
  8223.  @Grannyknockers  yes.
    1
  8224. Lol
    1
  8225. That's depressing
    1
  8226. Correct.
    1
  8227. ​ @seancarson1212 yep
    1
  8228. ​ @MattBuild4 actually.
    1
  8229. Since I'm over 25 And have no kids or disabilities I'm ineligible for Medicaid. No matter how low income I am.
    1
  8230.  @PPKNexus  It's why I don't vote.
    1
  8231.  @PPKNexus  I'm happy for you.
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  8232.  @PPKNexus  I misread. I thought you were saying you WERE eligible in Florida.
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  8233.  @richardpierpoint494  why should i vote? the core problem with welfare is ideological, not economic: politicans don't believe poverty is unacceptable like they do rape.
    1
  8234. Yep.
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  8235. But they wouldn't want their own kids on welfare.
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  8236.  @harrietharlow9929  exactly
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  8237.  @dansmodacct  great strawman.
    1
  8238. That made me cry
    1
  8239.  @destinal_in_reality  $50 sounds good
    1
  8240. ​ @BadAssElf810 politicians make the policies, they aren't going to cave to their corporate donors. You'd have to eliminate corporations to eliminate lobbying
    1
  8241. Easy to do except politicians believe the poor make too much.
    1
  8242. That's messed up.
    1
  8243. That's the point. To have a deprived population
    1
  8244. Correct.
    1
  8245. That's fucked up. I'm not proud to be an American.
    1
  8246. Minimum wage jobs don't give you skills.
    1
  8247. Conservatives believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  8248. ​ @F.J._Claes conservatives hate living wage because they believe poor people don't deserve to have a living wage.
    1
  8249. Not true.
    1
  8250. ​ @dennisholliday2454 exactly
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  8251. All political issues are equally important. Anyway, politicans don't want a living wage because it gives too much bargaining power to workers.
    1
  8252. No.
    1
  8253. Exactly
    1
  8254. They pay that already.
    1
  8255.  @zentai5076  ok
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  8256. So I'm a virgin at nearly 30 by choice??
    1
  8257.  @lizxu322  I forgot to add zero. I'm 29. Nearly 30
    1
  8258. Inflation is an acceptable risk.
    1
  8259. I'm a self proclaimed incel
    1
  8260. Most doctors don't accept Medicaid. I'm on medicaid and it sucks.
    1
  8261. That's messed up.
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  8262. Yes. It's called Calvinism. Calvinists believe that hard work, not faith, is the key to salvation. Rich people are blessed with wealth and should be blessed with limitless more to remind them that they have been chosen to succeed. Poor people are lazy, and their low wage reminds them of this, that they ate condemned to hell.
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  8263. The reason poverty exists is because politicians choose to. Political and business leaders don't want to end poverty because it's not about profits it's about power and control.
    1
  8264. Or poor people.
    1
  8265. Unfortunately, greed is a choice.
    1
  8266. Corporations treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  8267. @Kenneth  Well, let me rephrase what I said. Greed, the intense and selfish desire for something, is a part of human nature, you are right. But I am specifically referring to avarice, which is greed concerning money. I believe people being corrupted by money and power are both choices. Let me explain. There are all things we value and because of scarcity's existence money is indeed one of them, but there are things our society values even more, such as women having autonomy. If I offered Kamala Harris one billion dollars to deny women voting, would she take the money? Of course not. She would not agree to deny women voting or consent even if I offered her all of the gold in Fort knox. She values women's voting, sexual, and reproductive rights more than money and power.
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  8268.  @kenneth6102  Long story short. I'm saying that our vice president values women's voting, sexual, and reproductive rights MORE than money and power.
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  8269. @Kenneth  And we've come full circle. Our government would not accept any amount of money to deny women consent, but they DO accept money to deny people healthcare and education and a living wage and affordable medicine, and so on. This means that they believe that this source of deprivation and suffering is acceptable. This has nothing to do with scarcity. Their ideology is such that they don't believe all suffering is important.
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  8270. I know. I'm making $10.50/hr.
    1
  8271. I'd stay there if I was rich.
    1
  8272. Exactly ​ @Sammy102093 
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  8273. Not the problem with ubi. The benefits are the problem.
    1
  8274.  @tschorsch  would you be fine with McDonald's workers making $100,000/yr?
    1
  8275. yes. income redistribution from the "priceless" workers to the "worthless" ones.
    1
  8276. I read all that twice and cried reading it.
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  8277. My take on it is free college empowers poor people, and is thus opposed.
    1
  8278. I'd retire in 2 months but yes
    1
  8279. ​ @humanleader184 it's my fault
    1
  8280. Exactly. It's called just-world fallacy.
    1
  8281. Correct.
    1
  8282. Not everyone can or should leave.
    1
  8283. That's disgusting.
    1
  8284. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  8285. ​ @markrittman2437 yep
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  8286. @gothicgirlfriend7375  I'm purchasing car insurance tomorrow. Then I'll pass my driver's license test to get my driver's license. I'll be going to a comedy club and sports bar too. Maybe even comic con. I'll be returning to community College on campus.
    1
  8287.  @gothicgirlfriend7375  I'm actually scared a woman WILL talk to me at the bar or comedy club.
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  8288.  @gothicgirlfriend7375  I'll leave you alone now. Thank you for your help.
    1
  8289.  @gothicgirlfriend7375  I got the car insurance. In 24-48 hours i'll have the policy sent to DMV(just a delay).
    1
  8290. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier. Striking would've done nothing.
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  8291.  @bradleyyurk5744  or if we had welfare to fall back on. Despite being poor, I received 0 welfare benefits.
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  8292. i can't get medicaid because north carolina denied medicaid expansion. Since I am "able-bodied," i don't qualify for medicaid no matter how low income i am. NC just passed it, but it hasn't passed the budget so there is still a medicaid gap. I can't get food stamps because you are disqualified if you are enrolled in community college or university, and even qualifying would still have work requirements. Section 8 housing disqualified me because I was under my mom's section 8.  @bradleyyurk5744
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  8293. Exactly
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  8294. I wish kyle included the name and links in his videos
    1
  8295. Yep.
    1
  8296. Exactly.
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  8297.  @NickKnack87  exactly.
    1
  8298. @NickKnack87  the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. It is a debt free life, not an unaffordable education, that america deems intolerable.
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  8299. Even if everyone wanted to, there are not enough high paying jobs for everyone. This is what boot strappers like you don't understand. And people work for money, not the goodness of their heart. People's needs don't disappear because they have "entry-level" work.
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  8300.  @lisabrightly  I desire to be a television journalist for science. Although I'm currently in community college. I guess there's nothing stopping me from pursuing journalism since I don't need a degree.
    1
  8301. A hooker doesn't offer genuine affection.
    1
  8302.  @TheJesselopez1981  that's a good thing...
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  8303.  @TheJesselopez1981  oh ok
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  8304. @Ronald Reagan  so greed Is only good for employers?
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  8305. To reinforce the idea that unskilled workers deserve poverty. And to help business.
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  8306. Correct.
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  8307.  @Roshinoftheflames  yes. Idiocracy: where politicians expect poor people to achieve more with less. Let's provide financial aid for people who don't make enough money to survive but also oppose a living wage minimum wage.
    1
  8308. Yep.
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  8309. Wow
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  8310. I don't have a car at 29. I need a job..... To get my first car. Rofl on getting a new car if it tanks in value that quickly.
    1
  8311.  @louisefleming3117  ok
    1
  8312.  @StevesRepairs54  that isn't right
    1
  8313. Correct.
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  8314. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. I'll make a video on Medicaid.
    1
  8315. Yep
    1
  8316. They wouldn't last one week.
    1
  8317. You can't catch fraud?
    1
  8318. Because that's the point
    1
  8319. They didn't change.
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  8320. I find it ironic that Obama, and Trevor noah, etc. want to restrict gun ownership. So people who have 24/7 armed security (including sniper rifles and assault rifles, neither of which I can own as a civilian), are telling every day people to give up their rights for the greater good.
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  8321. I'm happy he got laid. I'm upset I still haven't.
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  8322. Correct.
    1
  8323. Not a good thing.
    1
  8324. Yep
    1
  8325.  @fluxrider7027  YouTube
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  8326. Ok
    1
  8327. Yep.
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  8328. Only 2 ways to create a utopia: eliminate scarcity or make everyone have the same values. I wish there was a matter replicator like in Star Trek.
    1
  8329.  @elisawhitman8526  unfortunately, it can make those. So the machine better be controlled by a sentient robot that prohibits weapon making.
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  8330. @Elisa Whitman  I actually figured out how to create a utopia: by making everyone have the same values.
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  8331.  @elisawhitman8526  Do you want the secret?
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  8332. Correct.
    1
  8333. That's messed up
    1
  8334. ​ @cmst6408  disgusting.
    1
  8335. You can't buy intimacy
    1
  8336. I'm poor too
    1
  8337. It's all by design
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  8338.  @Corey-k4m  I would cry from happiness.
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  8339.  @Corey-k4m  that's awful disabled people are seen as worthless
    1
  8340. Yep
    1
  8341. That's sad
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  8342. ​ @dannyslag or win $10 million of scholarships
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  8343. i don't think they did. he said he consensually had sex with her and dropped her off.
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  8344. The system is the problem. That's why you blame it.
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  8345. @DalazG  you can want to make more money without depressing wages and making people dependent. If corporations and the rich stopped desiring these two things, then welfare, healthcare, and higher education access wouldn't be limited, and open borders(using illegal immigrants)and weak labor unions wouldn't be rampant.
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  8346. @DalazG  it is not financial suicide to offer high wages, that is, if that was a true priority. No, a top priority, of society. All change has a price. And that price has to be paid by someone. It's about whether or not society is willing to accept such prices. I am not living in a fantasy world where everyone makes $2 million per hour minimum. All I'm saying is if there was true political will to ensure there was absolutely no one working who couldn't survive off of their compensation alone(without welfare, charity or crushing debt), then UK society, any society, would be structured around that simple fact.
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  8347. Just because you live at home/have parents doesn't mean the parents themselves aren't poor. Nor does it mean the kid doesn't pay any bills.
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  8348. Lolol so you'll learn the skills to become a doctor by working at Wendy's? Get real.
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  8349. My replies are gone
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  8350.  @tinkerbellrochester7021  my replies are gone again
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  8351. Exactly. There is so much poverty.
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  8352. ​ @channeling764 exactly.
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  8353.  @dynamicworlds1  when i worked at McDonald's, a woman was there 7 years as a manager...making $9 an hour.
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  8354. Yep
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  8355. Yep
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  8356.  @gcoffey223  Yes.. Wanting people to do well...is somehow bad...
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  8357. ​ @teddycheong ok
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  8358. Because using a hooker confirms you are unlovable and paying for what most people get for free.
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  8359. She didn't try hard enough.
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  8360. It's called just-world fallacy
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  8361. Your minimum wage point is an excellent one. I have a theory as to why conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage. It is not because it costs businesses "too much" but because it makes meritocracy a lie. If raising the minimum wage really would lift tens of millions of people out of poverty that is admitting that poverty is a systemic problem, that effort alone is not and cannot be enough to succeed/escape poverty, in essence that means effort doesn't matter. On the other hand telling people to simply work harder or accept the way society is shifting the blame to the individual.
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  8362. Correct.
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  8363.  @Abyzz_Knight  okay.
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  8364. Yes.
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  8365. Correct.
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  8366.  @chillymcgillacutty8441  minimum wage jobs never give huge pay increases.
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  8367. ​ @BeGioBijoux yep. My problem was aiming too high, being poor and lazy.
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  8368. Wow
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  8369. Exactly
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  8370. Exactly.
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  8371. Man I'm so sad. I'm poor but smart and can't afford college.
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  8372. This made me cry.
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  8373. That won't force companies to pay more since poverty would still exist.
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  8374. ​ @TimothiusRycard exactly
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  8375. You can't eliminate money from politics. Money and ideology fuel politics.
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  8376. ​ @DethBatCountry you are correct
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  8377. Okay ​ @theresamay9481 
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  8378. The GOP is implying that poverty and motherhood are incompatible—banning abortion to force poor women to give birth, then cutting welfare to deny them the means to raise their children. It’s a system that enforces childbirth but withholds support, turning motherhood into a punishment for being poor.
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  8379. I can't lose my virginity. I've been trying since 2017.
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  8380.  @wresling300  I haven't been trying. I need to get off my lazy butt and work hard.
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  8381. I've used tinder for 6 years...i am still a virgin.
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  8382. ​ @BenjaminWalburn yep.
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  8383. Not everyone believes this ​ @marlonbryanmunoznunez3179 
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  8384.  @loundclear9279  k
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  8385.  @jingbot1071  thanks. I want you to read a short essay, called "functions of poverty," by Herbert gans. If you decide to read it, come back and let me know what you think. It explains the minimum wage debate perfectly, and why it's the most important debate concerning poverty.
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  8386.  @devilmecare  slave aren't free. Just like these minimum wage workers aren't.
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  8387.  @markfrank5937  context: I'm saying Republicans like Desantis want workers to be under the boots of corporations. Corporations want cheap labor, workers that can't afford to argue and will work for low pay. That's also why corporations support illegal immigration.
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  8388.  @markfrank5937  the full context of welfare and minimum wage is this: Republicans say that they don't want poor people depending on the government but Republicans are ecstatic to have them be under control by corporations who uses the money they save from depressing people's wages to donate to Republican campaigns.
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  8389.  @markfrank5937  my comments are gone. I'm angry.
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  8390. ​ @vylbird8014 exactly
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  8391. Won't work. Many people don't believe poor people deserve government assistance
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  8392. Correct.
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  8393. What conservatives are afraid of is change. They don't want to admit they can't control everything
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  8394. Correct.
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  8395. ​ @RabidDisposition because republicans want cheap labor as well, by restricting welfare
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  8396. Welfare makes up the difference.
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  8397. That's even more disgusting. $500k salary? Some doctors don't make that much.
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  8398.  @50jakecs  We need more poor people running for office.
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  8399.  @50jakecs  I would tax corporations 2x to 5X * the amount their employees used in welfare benefits.
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  8400. Exactly. I'm poor but lack medicaid because I'm "able-bodied."
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  8401. @himenyx153  north carolina denied medicaid expansion, meaning anyone past 25 years of age who has no kids or disabilities loses medicaid. And cannot receive it, no matter how low their income is. I lost medicaid when I turned 26 despite still being poor. I can't get food stamps either, because the government states anyone enrolled in higher education is disqualified even if they're in poverty. This was temporarily removed because of the pandemic, but reinstated. Thus, I got food stamps for one month, then lost them again.
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  8402.  @himenyx153  I don't vote.
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  8403. Covid pandemic is happening.... It brought about change, but not the change you desire. The American economy runs on poverty. Consumers enjoy cheap and quick access to goods and services. And these two things require desperate workers. Republicans treat rising worker power as a policy disaster, not relief. And they use poverty, not higher wages, to keep workers in place.
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  8404. ​ @MrJeffcoley1 I'm 29 now. I'm a virgin. I've never kissed anyone before. I want to lose my virginity.
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  8405. ​ @Type2DiabetesLol jesus
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  8406. I haven't been rejected that many times
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  8407. A hooker doesn't offer genuine affection
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  8408. Yep.
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  8409. Evil
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  8410. That screws workers over...
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  8411.  @JordanReedYT  idk.
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  8412. I know for sure that this guy Peter Schiff was arguing against minimum wage using profit-sharing but there's no way he thinks unskilled workers deserve profit sharing. If workers received a fair share of the profits then popular restaurants like McDonald's and Chick-fil-A would have to pay their cashiers around $100,000 a year.
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  8413.  @JordanReedYT  i don't understand why it's not applicable to corporations. Also the bigger with the minimum wage is that employers like Wal-Mart intentionally create low-skilled jobs but for some reason people like Schiff blame the worker for the low pay. Imagine if I forced all cops in my city to have a baton and flashlight, no guns, no cars, no comms, no backup, and no county or state police to help them, AND they had to respond to all crime in USA. The cops would fail but because they were offered a bullshit position, not because they were lazy. They were allowed to do less and less but expected to do more and more. It's the same thing with the minimum wage: offer a bullshit position then criticize them for not being skilled for the job you just offered them/dumbed down.
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  8414.  @JordanReedYT  i don't see how it's entitled. If you're working a job it's wrong to be poor. And you're agreeing with me the jobs were dumbed down on purpose.
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  8415.  @JordanReedYT  just because others have suffered beforehand is no reason to expect people to suffer now.
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  8416.  @JordanReedYT  now i see. Yes I'd be upset.
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  8417.  @JordanReedYT  do you understand my point? And what do you think of Schiff's position over all?
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  8418.  @JordanReedYT  okay.
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  8419. I have #2 and #3 but I am a kissless virgin at 27. I'm incel
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  8420. Yep.
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  8421.  @saadiasheikh5744  it's getting better slowly.
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  8422. Because there is nobody to stand up for poor people like myself. I make $10/hr as a cashier.
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  8423. But it can work that way.
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  8424.  @gaborkiss650  ...yes you can change the pay of jobs....it literally a human choice what to pay people.
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  8425. Yep
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  8426. What kind of fails to realize is that conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than they deserve
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  8427. Correct.
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  8428. Republicans think it's fair because they believe in just world fallacy. You pay people by skill, which is based on effort.
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  8429. Yes.
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  8430. Okay.
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  8431. Federal loans can be given only to colleges that charge a certain amount of tuition.
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  8432. That's messed up.
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  8433.  @Armeddragon12  yep
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  8434. @darex0827  yes. This is about priorities. This is about what deprivation is deemed unacceptable. Politicians believe rape is unacceptable. Not being burdened by student loan debt. Or any debt at all.
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  8435. @silvermainecoons3269  because this is about priorities. The reasons republicans block student loan forgiveness are simple 1. Ideology: they don't believe poor people deserve the help 2. Economics: Poor people will not work for slave wages if they have government benefits. You can kiss welfare and consumer debt goodbye if the government prioritized helping the lower and middle classes. In other words, it would prove poverty is a policy choice.
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  8436. @lordlemond1350  that's what I said. Government benefits for the poor are insufficient 1. They aren't adjusted for cost of living 2. They don't reach all poor people 3. There are restrictions on assistance ON TOP OF being poor, as if being poor wasn't already bad enough. And 4. There isn't simple direct cash flow to poor people Because again, Noone is working minimum wage with a decent social safety net.
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  8437. They don't believe it'll create unemployment nor do they care. Conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  8438. That's messed up.
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  8439. What?
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  8440. It's called just-world fallacy
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  8441. Correct.
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  8442. They hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty
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  8443. Politicians receive the salaries and benefits that we workers deserve, and then they lecture us on being happy with crappy wages.
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  8444. It's circular logic isn't it? The government provides financial assistance to people who don't make enough money to live but it will also not support a living wage. The argument breaks down in that loop.
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  8445.  @Fr33Kingdom  what are you implying by the "who's they?"
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  8446.  @richardrhineberger8891  I've never seen a fry cook make $23 million lol.
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  8447.  @george2009town  it isn't easy, but they don't deserve $23 million a year.
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  8448.  @jonboll-LGM  it isn't an easy job, but $23 million a year is too much. Plus $40 million termination bonus.
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  8449. I'm improving my life but I'm still a virgin​ @morganlefay999 
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  8450. 100% right
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  8451. Just world fallacy
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  8452. Exactly.
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  8453.  @hugoruda9049  exactly. Houses are not priced for people making minimum wage.
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  8454. Yep
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  8455.  @billcollins6894  no, the rich cause poverty.
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  8456. Wow
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  8457. It didn't. When he said it's elitist, he meant to say college would drastically reduce poverty and that's wrong since the rich thrive off of poverty.
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  8458. Conservatives believe success is based on effort. In terms of the economy, effort is skill.
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  8459. I work as a cashier, enrolled in community college, and do a mathematics-physics internship. I make $10 an hour which isn't enough to even afford a cab to travel to and from work, I certainly don't make enough to afford rent. My college doesn't pay for living expenses. My nternship pays $15 an hour at 4 hours a week so I can't survive off of that either. So I would either somehow need to get financial aid, which wouldn't cover the whole cost of college anyway. I somehow would need to get a full ride scholarship, even though less than 1% of students get a full ride scholarship. Or I would somehow have to work 10 internships at once or make $150 an hour as an intern.
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  8460. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. I want to lose my virginity so severely.
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  8461. I have 29 days left until I'm 29 years old.
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  8462. I'm a virgin.
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  8463. You believe in just-world fallacy.
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  8464. Not exactly. Jesse is Calvinist
    1
  8465. I understand.
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  8466. Yes
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  8467. Yep
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  8468. ​ @elin_ I'm not hateful towards women I'm jealous they have it easier
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  8469.  @elin_  okay. I haven't left my house in months you're right
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  8470.  @elizabethdillon4945  so obama fucked over MILLIONS of families?
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  8471. Wow.
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  8472. I'm trying to lose my virginity but unlike elliot I'm poor and boring.
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  8473. You believe in just-world fallacy and fallacy of relative privation
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  8474. ​ @Ellieempress  nowhere in USA
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  8475. Would you be happy if a low income student got a $21 million scholarship?
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  8476.  @luciatheron1621  I agree with you. I'm just upset that whenever money is spent on poor people we complain but not when money is spent on rich people.
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  8477.  @Swampert384  oh okay.
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  8478.  @Nevertoleave  yes. But that's different from getting a massive scholarship.
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  8479. Because that's the point- to force people to be in poverty.
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  8480. Thank you for this.
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  8481. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  8482. Fast food workers are worth more than what they negotiate.
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  8483. Yep
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  8484. Yep.
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  8485. Wow
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  8486. Yep.
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  8487. @Person 1 yes burger flippers are worth that much.
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  8488. I think it should be very simple, a job is not counted as viable if you can't survive on its compensation. Every job must be a living wage job, so the worker working it is ineligible for welfare. And if you want to go beyond that, every job must be a thriving wage job, which means the workers would have no need to take on debt.
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  8489. Conservatives believe in just-world fallacy as much as they believe in God.
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  8490. He's rich though
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  8491. Trevor Noah makes that much??
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  8492. Risk? You do know the minimum wage is $7.25/hr, right? When I was a cashier, I got a $0.50 "raise." When could you run a corporation making two quarters an hour?
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  8493. I AM an HHKV. AT 28.
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  8494. Still.
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  8495. Holy crap
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  8496. Wrong answer What you aren't getting is these conservatives want poverty. They think a living wage is wrong because unskilled workers receive something they don't deserve. They think welfare is wrong for the same reason.
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  8497. The answer is no, because there aren't enough high paying jobs for everyone. And because not everyone is capable of working full-time or at all, such as the disabled or elderly.
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  8498. Yes
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  8499. Except what you're not getting is that IS THE POINT. Republicans hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If you could afford healthcare without having to work. Why work any job that traps you in welfare or debt with medical care? That's like a neurosurgeon accepting a stocker job.
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  8500. That's messed up.
    1
  8501. Exactly
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  8502. Idk why they believe that....
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  8503. Yep
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  8504. These incels are unwilling to change. But I am.
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  8505. Yes
    1
  8506. I'm not gay
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  8507. Republicans hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  8508. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  8509.  @harryballsak1123  that's exactly what I agree with: NOBODY SHOULD WORK FOR SLAVE WAGES. BOOM. But politicians back greedy corporations, who desire slave wages.
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  8510.  @harryballsak1123  except many conservatives also oppose a living wage because they believe poor people don't deserve that much money. What it boils down to is conservatives want poverty to persist.
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  8511. Disgusting.
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  8512. Rich people believe in the myth of meritocracy.
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  8513. Thank you.
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  8514. Yep
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  8515. Or how about make them work for minimum wage for the rest of their life.
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  8516. Fallacy of relative privation
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  8517. Ok
    1
  8518. Wow​ @WhatsBliss 
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  8519. You can't buy real sex.
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  8520.  @MaciejLorentz  okay. Thanks. Seems like a simple and doable process.
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  8521.  @MaciejLorentz  basically it's providing zero effort but expecting success
    1
  8522. What's wrong with me?
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  8523. @FluffyFartyShark  I've been using tinder for years to no avail. I've used bumble, hinge, okcupid. I just want to lose my virginity. I just turned 29. I'm sad.
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  8524.  @Ebizzill  hahahaha.
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  8525. Why not?
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  8526. That's correct. It's about $107 billion/year for food stamps alone.
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  8527. Republicans hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  8528. ​ @kevjer because Americans don't want to accept the risks in changing the current system.
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  8529. Women can't be forced to not have kids
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  8530.  @gatorbuc99  yes sir.
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  8531. Blame corporations that want cheap labor, not immigrants wanting better lives for themselves and their families.
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  8532.  @RIbigDave  corporations have the power to buy politicians, stall immigration reform, and exploit immigrants for cheap labor
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  8533. Poverty is seen as deserved.
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  8534. You can't buy intimacy. Hookers don't help me. I still want to lose my vcard though
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  8535.  @muslimminarchist7026  that's profits not sales. The profits are slim because the owners created a business based on slavery.
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  8536.  @muslimminarchist7026  walmart made $126 billion in profits in ONE quarter last year.. That's over $50k per worker. Its sales exceeded $500 billion...
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  8537.  @muslimminarchist7026  these workers are providing the very money allowing wal-mart to function. These workers are productive enough.
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  8538.  @muslimminarchist7026  you can be productive but not get paid alot. Labor competition doesn't determine the individual contribution of any one worker nor is skill itself a good metric for the worth of any job anyway.
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  8539.  @muslimminarchist7026  I'm tired of going in circles with you. Tipping is a form of charity. Wages are set by people. And noone in this country has to make $7.25 an hour.
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  8540. You have to believe in just-world fallacy like most conservatives do.
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  8541.  @geef917  the minimum wage was supposed to keep people out of poverty. And it still is supposed to do that.
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  8542.  @geef917  college reimbursement of what, $2,000 a year? Great, when college is a $100k+ price tag. Give me a break.
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  8543.  @geef917  The US workforce pays enough in taxes to make college free, it's just that the money is going to the wrong places.
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  8544.  @geef917  according to that logic we shouldn't fund the police since some people don't want or need them. Education is the great equalizer when it comes to reducing poverty. Making college only for rich people defeats the purpose.
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  8545. I don't have a car or money. I'm 29.
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  8546.  @newbieprepper8451  unskilled workers produce far money than they receive.....
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  8547. She hates the poor.
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  8548. Herbert gans
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  8549.  @randyprice5392  my replies are gone
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  8550. Correct.
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  8551. Yep.
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  8552. ​ @steven4570  I'm incel loser
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  8553. USA loves poverty
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  8554. Why? Why push everyone into either extreme poverty or extreme wealth?
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  8555.  @alexwilks2848  you're right. It's on me
    1
  8556.  @alexwilks2848  I'm lacking confidence from not socializing enough. I'll go out twice a week to conquer my anxiety
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  8557.  @alexwilks2848  I can't see my replies but I said I lack confidence and will socialize more
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  8558. It's my fault
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  8559.  @raptormajor10  he thinks businesses are owed money but employees aren't
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  8560. Yes. $8.50 wage purchasing billion dollar corporation.
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  8561. ​ @piperdragon3200 evil
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  8562. Yep. Survivorship bias is strong with this one
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  8563. It's about deservedness. Items about conservatives believing poor people don't deserve to be middle class.
    1
  8564. Exactly
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  8565. Exactly
    1
  8566. I want to be a science journalist
    1
  8567. The fox news hosts know this.. They just don't care.
    1
  8568. He makes 10 MILLION dollars a year
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  8569. @Rompelstaump  In North Carolina, once you turn 26, if you have no kids or disabilities, you are ineligible to receive snap or any other welfare no matter how low income you are.
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  8570. @Rompelstaump  so I can't get medicaid(until recently it's expansion), food stamps, section 8 housing, etc.
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  8571.  @lifes40123  North Carolina. The minimum wage is still $7.25/hr here.
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  8572.  @lifes40123  I was offered screenwriting jobs a while ago. And I'm applying to entry-level biotechnology jobs.
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  8573. Because service sector jobs are the main jobs available now.... When in the 70s it used to be manufacturing....
    1
  8574. Beautiful.
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  8575.  @tomisaacson2762  that's messed up.
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  8576. I'm incel but poor.
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  8577. i have been rejected thousands of times.
    1
  8578. @thedarknessunderneathpodca6366  no. I rejected most of them or I was creepy and got rejected that way.
    1
  8579. i eventually went on a date with two different women @thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 
    1
  8580. But asking women for sex directly results in me being called a creep.
    1
  8581. ​@i11egaltaco8 I'm attractive, but I'm socially inept.
    1
  8582. ​ @i11egaltaco8 I haven't given up trying to lose my virginity yet.
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  8583. Because worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once.
    1
  8584. Exactly
    1
  8585. Women can have sex or relationships without money being involved. All Men can't.
    1
  8586. Beautiful
    1
  8587. Correct.
    1
  8588. Exactly.
    1
  8589. ​ @ardentwolf_4288 everyone cannot be a trade worker.
    1
  8590. Exactly. The job is dead end
    1
  8591. You're wrong. Conservatives KNOW about these low wages it's just they oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class.
    1
  8592. Every worker takes risk. And music industry relies on patents.
    1
  8593. I understand
    1
  8594. Because they believe they're entitled to unlimited money and power. and because they know worker solidarity and poverty cannot exist at once.
    1
  8595. Scarcity.
    1
  8596. They demean fast food workers the most
    1
  8597.  @zf8604  oh okay.
    1
  8598. Not how people operate
    1
  8599.  @danbanowetz  if UBI pays more than work, than work must pay more.
    1
  8600.  @danbanowetz  able bodied is a moral term used to imply poor people aren't working hard enough to deserve government aid.
    1
  8601.  @danbanowetz  not a scientific term, but a moral one.
    1
  8602. Correct.
    1
  8603. Not me
    1
  8604.  @guyyates3284  not me
    1
  8605. Good.
    1
  8606. But I want to lose my vcard.
    1
  8607. Robots aren't human women
    1
  8608. Correct
    1
  8609. Correct.
    1
  8610. ​ @NotUp2Much  no.
    1
  8611. You're sick and college is too expensive if you're not rich.
    1
  8612. Yep.
    1
  8613. I'm an incel because I'm a 27 year old virgin.
    1
  8614. I believe you
    1
  8615. Why won't he step down?
    1
  8616. That's messed up.
    1
  8617. Welcome to America. $2.5 trillion on tax cuts. But pennies for the poor.
    1
  8618. Okay
    1
  8619. Remove full-time because companies keep minimum wage workers part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits
    1
  8620.  @hunternedib1119  and we all don't have the choices available to us that we would like to have. You believe in just-world fallacy.
    1
  8621.  @michelle-jn7ul  Which is a lie.
    1
  8622. correct.
    1
  8623. Correct.
    1
  8624.  @dmmag8037  in the 1970s college only cost a few hundred dollars for the entire year...and that included everything..tuition, books, housing, campus fees. This one Senator said he graduated college debt free by working at Mcdonald's. What he neglected to mention is that college was $900 a year when he attended...and he made the equivalent of $27 today.
    1
  8625.  @johnscimeca8479  adam smith said it right, workers can only contest the power of corporations through collective bargaining. And raising wages does not raise prices, it decreases profit margins. Maybe if companies weren't used to taking 75% of profits/having slim profit margins on top of that paying higher wages wouldn't be problem.
    1
  8626.  @dmmag8037  it's called survivorship bias. It's a key component of believing merit.
    1
  8627. Welfare reform like this implies the government believes poor women don't have a right to bear children.
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  8628. The pandemic revealed something terrible about politics: the American economy runs on poverty. If no poverty existed in usa, workers could reject dead-end job offers. Noone would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
    1
  8629. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  8630. that is so messed up
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  8631.  @iali00  EXACTLY.
    1
  8632. Hahaha.
    1
  8633.  @alupo9966  your premise is false. What do you mean if someone is doing "the bare minimum?" Working? Isn't that what you're supposed to do? Instead you're treating these people like they're rapists. Have you seen the cost of college? Healthcare? Housing? You can't get ahead if the first two steps are broken. Back in the seventies unskilled workers made decent wages because most jobs were Union industrial jobs. Now most jobs are low-paying service-sector jobs and you are acting like it's all an individual problem.
    1
  8634.  @CassDahlem  he's saying if you work minimum wage you're dumb and lazy. A person's intelligence and worth ethic have nothing to do with the job they have. There are cashiers smarter than some doctors and janitors more hardworking than some CEOs. You aren't paid based on how smart you are or how hard you work.
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  8635. Second off, rich people enjoy poverty since worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once.
    1
  8636. @Hunter nediB  I am pursuing science Journalism as a career path too.
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  8637.  @hunternedib1119  why do you look down on minimum wage workers? Why?
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  8638.  @gyandevi3361  you act like it's my choice to settle for minimum wage. that i can choose to be a journalist if i truly wanted to.
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  8639.  @gyandevi3361  oh okay sorry.
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  8640.  @gyandevi3361  i work minimum wage because i'm a community college student starting over. I need both an associate's and bachelor's of physics degree to even be considered for high paying STEM jobs. These two degrees require at least 4 years of full time schooling. While I'm doing that, i can only handle part time jobs that require only a high school diploma. Well, truthfully i could be a journalist, but there are other barriers to that as well.
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  8641. Rofl exactly.
    1
  8642. Thank you
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  8643. I'm on welfare until I win a full ride scholarship and grant to finish college.
    1
  8644. ​@Trisha Yamada that was hurtful to read.
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  8645. I am a male incel. Why don't women incels get as angry as men do?
    1
  8646. I know.
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  8647. i worked as a cashier and worked very hard, but i only made 10 dollars to start and was given a fifty cent raise. I couldn't even afford to buy toothpaste.
    1
  8648. It's my fault I'm a virgin at 29.
    1
  8649. I'm incel virgin nearly thirty
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  8650. Rich people want people to work for slave wages and do society's dirty work.
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  8651.  @jimbob9407  you're a troll
    1
  8652. Not money, but power and control.
    1
  8653.  @idnintel  that is a real risk
    1
  8654.  @ottz2506  I don't know my stance on immigration
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  8655.  @noel7777noel  I don't understand what your message is. Are you saying capitalism reduces poverty and illegal immigration?
    1
  8656.  @borginburkes1819  yep
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  8657.  @ottz2506  I agree with you. I'm just saying corporations want cheap labor.
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  8658.  @noel7777noel  oh I see. What Do you think capitalism is? What is socialism by comparison?
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  8659.  @noel7777noel  ah. 👍
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  8660.  @noel7777noel  ok
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  8661.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  1. Many conservatives think minimum wage workers don't deserve a living wage because their ethical code says it's morally wrong to pay more money than MW low-level abilities entitle them to earn. 2. The problem is not poor people or illegal immigrants, it's entirely corporations who want cheap labor. Eliminating the minimum wage will not end corporate greed. As long as corporations are subsidized to use cheap labor, they'll keep doing it. 3. American society, and every capitalist society has "dirty work," jobs that are dangerous, temporary, underpaid, dead-end and undignified. Minimum wage jobs are a bulk of these jobs. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs or dirty work. Poverty is used to ensure there are workers who are willing- or rather unable to be unwilling - to do dirty work at low wages/costs.
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  8662.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  1. Living wage- enough money to keep that person(and if they have a family) above the poverty level. I.e off of welfare and charity programs 2. Minimum wage jobs have been dumbed down, and now are dead-end and give you no skills. But people expect the jobs to be filled. So people admit the jobs are dead-end on one end, but criticize people for not having skills in such jobs on the other. It's a contradiction. 3. Since poverty exists, and welfare is insufficient, without a minimum wage, corporations would be willing to pay even less for labor they already do. 4. The core points I'm trying to make are this Part 1 1. Corporations desire cheap labor 2. Poverty exists to ensure society's dirty work(temporary. Dead-end. Underpaid. Dangerous) jobs are filled. People prefer for such work to be done with poverty, rather than without it(i.e. automation of unnecessary work and livable wages for necessary work)
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  8663.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  I'm not talking about markets per se, I'm saying many people want minimum wage workers in poverty, that they believe they have the right to tell other people how much money they deserve to make.
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  8664.  @GuitarProgressChallenge    1. I'm aware of supply and demand, but ideology fuels politics as much as economics does, if the minimum wage debate was just about money, this debate would've ended a long time ago. 2. There is no objective measure of productivity. McDonald's and Walmart make billions of dollars in profits every year. Even if every individual store made trillions, their cashiers/stockers/janitors aren't going to be made $60/hour. They'll be paid the same pittance they do now, as long as the government won't step in 3. If a business struggles paying its workers from an initial minimum wage hike, the government could subsidize said business to help during the transition. 4. No I wouldn't pay people poverty wages because poverty is intolerable to me. I do not believe anyone deserves to be poor. That includes people who don't work full-time and disabled people who are unable to work. 5. Times have changed. Minimum wage jobs are not filled by only students anymore. It doesn't matter alone what something is meant to be, but Is. There isn't meant to be crime, that is no excuse to let crime happen and pretend when it does happen that crime simply doesn't exist. 6. People can't have their cake and eat it too. Either they support automation or living wages l, if they oppose both, they support poverty(and its existence to ensure society's dead-end jobs get filled) 7. Poor people and immigrants are not the problem. they are not the ones who need to be controlled. The problem is corporations who want to depress wages and make people dependent. If corporations stopped paying people slave wages, all of this would go away. 8. There is no realistic scenario in which everyone in society can have children they can support. Some people cannot survive without government assistance. Everyone knows this deep down. There are already not enough high paying jobs, but everyone isn't capable of working, disability aid is insufficient, daycare is unaffordable for many, and there are not enough middle and upper class husbands to marry all poor women. 9. I don't know if you're implying poor women don't have the right to bear children(welfare reform). But if you truly believe this, just know there's no practical way to stop poor women from having kids or sex.
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  8665.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  my fucking replies got deleted again. I just.. I typed so much. I'm fucking angry
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  8666.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  if this reply gets deleted too then I will cave. 1. Government assistance for businesses 1b. There is no objective measure of productivity. 1c. Even if there was, people's ideology would get in the way. 2. Everyone who works a minimum wage job is not a student. 3. No I wouldn't pay slave wages because I find poverty unacceptable. 4. Everyone cannot increase their skills. 5. Some people cannot survive without government assistance. 6. Corporations are the problem, not the poor or immigrants. 7. Poor women have a right to bear children. 8. You cannot force women to either not have sex or not have kids. 9. If a business is only profitable by paying people poverty wages, then the business must either change or go out of business.
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  8667.  @fahimp3  McDonald's makes billions of dollars of profits. They can afford to pay cashiers $60/hour of they wanted
    1
  8668. ​ @idnintel okay cool
    1
  8669. ​ @adamdavis1648 ok
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  8670. ​ @Lentokone131 thanks
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  8671.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  I see your comments now.
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  8672.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  okay I have to fucking go back and reread comments to see replies. YouTube sucks.
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  8673.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  people cannot quit and get a better job, because of poverty. Poverty creates a labor pool that is willing, or rather, is unable to be unwilling, to perform low wage jobs at low costs. Anything which allows the poor to command higher wages or resist poverty wages is opposed.
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  8674.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  I don't know what you're disagreeing with me about. Society has dirty work, such as minimum wage jobs. Society can fill these jobs with poverty or without it. Many people choose the former, I choose the latter.
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  8675. It's about priorities.
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  8676. ​@falconofthebluee it's anger over getting someone getting something for free that you had to pay and work for
    1
  8677. yes
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  8678. Mate. It's mopping floors. Employers aren't competing over that. The number of people who can be cashiers is so high that the supply of labor is practically unlimited, there is no way any individual cashier can negotiate for fair pay.
    1
  8679.  @destinal_in_reality  you're admitting what I'm saying, just in a more long-winded way.
    1
  8680.  @destinal_in_reality  they're producing all the goods that make all the money for their owners. If profit sharing existed, these employees would make far more.
    1
  8681.  @destinal_in_reality  their wages are kept artificially low by owners
    1
  8682. Exactly
    1
  8683. I believe you. I'll start going out.
    1
  8684. Yep
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  8685. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty. Poverty has 13 functions in USA. The first and biggest reason is to ensure society's dirty work gets done. Noone does minimum wage work if everyone had wealth or skills, so rich people have their interest in NOT helping workers have these things.
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  8686. ​ @RuyGedares_GuyRedares LOLOLOL.
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  8687. Purpose of minimum wage - to keep workers out of poverty. Cost of living can be accounted for by county governments.
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  8688.  @gb2115  because poverty is a nationwide problem, like immigration or healthcare. I would want the federal government to set a living wage as a guideline, and countries could set their own living wage laws by county.
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  8689.  @gb2115  all those things involve federal government to some degree or another. I do not understand what your goal or argument is here. A living wage is a simple math calculation. I'm just saying for the federal government to ensure that's is the law of the land so to speak. What you're not getting is individual states actually have an incentive to not raise the minimum wage because they profit off of poverty. I can't think of a single poverty issue that even if left to the states, would be as supported as women's suffrage or freedom of speech - something that is essential to our society and truly isn't dependent on the unemployment rate or what party is in power or even being an American for that matter (human rights).
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  8690.  @gb2115  less than 10 states have a minimum wage of $15/hour. Which isn't even a true living wage now anyway. There is no state that has implemented a true living wage law.
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  8691.  @gb2115  poverty is not a state wide issue though. It isn't like if NC solves poverty then that means poverty is solved everywhere else. I don't see a reason why having a national living wage is wrong. It would signify both economically and ideologically that it is intolerable for any worker of any industry in any state to ever be deprived of basic subsistence and fair pay. I would go further than a living wage law and have it be an amendment.
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  8692.  @imperialbengal4068  because they believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
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  8693.  @imperialbengal4068  yes
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  8694.  @imperialbengal4068  yep
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  8695. Poor people have no voice
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  8696. Wtf.
    1
  8697. That's messed up.
    1
  8698. ​ @Itcouldbebunnies fair
    1
  8699. Yep.
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  8700. Damn.
    1
  8701. Exactly
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  8702. Yep
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  8703. There are tens of millions of people who make minimum wage that are not in high school.
    1
  8704. And many poor kids work minimum wage to help support their family
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  8705. Correct.
    1
  8706. Pundits or Kyle?
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  8707. Because they have contempt for certain jobs. Republicans believe some jobs have value and others do not.
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  8708.  @frankmeloy4457  ignore him. He believes "skills" are the only worth of a job.
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  8709.  @frankmeloy4457  i don't recall calling businesses charities. It doesn't matter how much a worker is worth if he/she has no bargaining power to negotiate higher pay.
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  8710. you don't have the right to tell others how much money they deserve to make.
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  8711.  @willharriman1881  ànd employers want to depress wages.
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  8712. Politicians want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs by restricting welfare.
    1
  8713.  @waltergrace565  ok
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  8714.  @waltergrace565  ok
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  8715.  @waltergrace565  yeah it sucks
    1
  8716. ​ @TheNicHoward  LOL
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  8717. Wtf.
    1
  8718. I'm an incel.
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  8719. Lol I'd do it if I weren't poor.
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  8720. ​ @SkibidiToiletIslnherentlyAryan exactly
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  8721. Because rich people Believe in survivorship bias
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  8722. Thank you
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  8723. I can't afford a car. As a cashier I made $10.50/hr. As an intern, I make $900/week. I now don't work at all
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  8724. That would require federal government control, Republicans don't want that.
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  8725. You're not getting it. Look up family assistance plan under Nixon. The real reason there are work requirements is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  8726. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
    1
  8727.  @aycc-nbh7289  I just want a living wage, I'm fine with CEOs making more than me.
    1
  8728. Lol
    1
  8729. Exactly
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  8730. Poverty is as much of a social and economic problem as voting and freedom of speech. Poverty not being in the founding documents doesn't negate that.
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  8731. ​ @JustAnAverageWoman69 so I could lose my vcard? Despite me being broke/not independent?
    1
  8732. ​ @tenwaystowearit wow
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  8733. ​ @boejiden7093 jesus
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  8734. Making millions too.
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  8735.  @onlineprofile3425  yep.
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  8736.  @cfltheman  I don't know why
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  8737.  @Pipping-Hot  I'm poor WHILE In college.
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  8738.  @Pipping-Hot  what? I'm unhappy because I'm poor. It sucks.
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  8739.  @Pipping-Hot  the fact you think non rich people getting government assistance is a handout is all I need to know.
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  8740.  @Pipping-Hot  ah. I knew you would say it. You believe in just-world fallacy and your morals are incompatible with mine. Everyone cannot work hard to succeed. Everyone cannot work full-time or work at all. So no, maybe people deserve government assistance simply by being a part of our society, regardless of whether they work or not. Also, it's funny how people must "earn" their way out of poverty or earn help when no such standard applies to the rich. They receive trillions of dollars of inheritance that they didn't earn or work for, and keep getting trillions of dollars of tax cuts on top of inheritance they also didn't earn or work for, but somehow the problem is poor people wanting to simply go to school, have a better life, and not be in poverty? Got it. Brilliant logic.
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  8741. Wow
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  8742. That's messed up even more.
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  8743. Correct.
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  8744. How do I lose my virginity?? What's the secret? I haven't even dated, and women use that against me!
    1
  8745. Yes
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  8746. It's about deservedness ​ @Pobert69 
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  8747. Conservatives disagree with you. They believe society is perfect so all failures are on the individual level, not collective.
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  8748. Yep.
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  8749. which is too much for poor people
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  8750. Yes. They reinstated food stamps, causing me to lose it
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  8751. Yep.
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  8752. As if single parents can get rid of their kids, magically get married, change the fact over half of jobs are low wage jobs, make college and healthcare affordable, make housing cheaper.
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  8753. ​ @andresmedina7670 wow
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  8754. Noone would pay it.
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  8755. ​ @vantacrow  yep.
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  8756. I love this!
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  8757. ​ @SpinningSideKick9000 LOL
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  8758. Poor people don't run for office
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  8759. Yep.
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  8760. What you're saying is it's more important to mitigate the risks of inflation and unemployment than it is to ensure livable wages.
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  8761. Shapiro believes unskilled workers don't deserve a decent life.
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  8762. wtf
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  8763. Republicans dislike poverty but they dislike policies which reduce poverty even more because the solution is worse than the problem.
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  8764. Except Republicans want poverty. There is no negotiating that away
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  8765. K
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  8766. But rail workers aren't despised like minimum wage workers are.
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  8767. The senators have contempt for the poor. It's in their dna.
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  8768. ​ @bloo9699 FALLACY OF RELATIVE PRIVATION
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  8769. Epic
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  8770. the problem is one of ideology, not money: politicians see disabled people as a burden, as undeserving of living a decent life. Even if it saved more money helping the disabled vs abandoning them, politicians would still choose the latter.
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  8771. Except people demand fast food to exist
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  8772. ​ @donaldford2849  $10 trillion of tax cuts have been passed since Bush. We could end poverty with that.
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  8773.  @donaldford2849  yes. It's why I don't vote.
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  8774. That's messed up.
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  8775. Maybe demand politicians change laws. When I was a cashier at a supermarket one year ago, I received health insurance if I worked full-time. I was kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits.
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  8776. Challenge failed
    1
  8777. Shapiro or Kyle?
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  8778. That's crazy.
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  8779. Low
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  8780. ​ @kananimiranda3376 not how government spending works
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  8781. Freedom is a part of happiness.
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  8782.  @Headtube  since when can a college student make tuition drop to literal pennies? By asking the chancellor nicely? No single student controls tuition prices.
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  8783.  @33percentgod  exactly. The rich gotta keep people fighting.
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  8784.  @HalcyonSky42  exactly
    1
  8785. I'm guessing you're implying prostitution. But yes, it isn't about just sex for incels like me, but acceptance. I'm hurt emotionally by the fact no woman likes me. Using a hooker doesn't cure loneliness.
    1
  8786. I can't afford community college because living expenses are crazy
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  8787. The minimum wage would have to be over $40/hr then
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  8788.  @lord6617  you're welcome.
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  8789.  @Zach-ju5vi  most jobs don't offer training like that anymore.
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  8790. @Solstice of Snow i was referring only to student loans. and the reason college is expensive is because the federal government doesn't have price controls which cap tuition. And all student loan debt can be forgiven.
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  8791. @Solstice of Snowno single student chose to price of college all their own.
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  8792. @Solstice of Snow yes because they aren't wealthy enough to pay for tuition without loans(most of the students).
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  8793. @Solstice of Snow you're moving the goal post again. However the job thing isn't the student's fault either. Almost half of the workforce is employed in hourly positions that pay on avg $35,000/yr. There are "skilled" middle class jobs(programmers. Data analysis. Engineers) but not as many as there was back in the 1970's.
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  8794. @Solstice of Snow most jobs are not high paying, middle class, middle income jobs. They're parasite jobs: jobs which profit the employer but leech off of society(low wage. Part time hours. Few benefits).
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  8795. @Solstice of Snow No.
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  8796. Alot to read.
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  8797. I want to lose my virginity.
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  8798. Exactly
    1
  8799. ​ @goldentreefrog18 evil
    1
  8800. Wow
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  8801. ​ @Rastaferrari829 why is section 8 housing so limited?
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  8802. i don't want that to happen to me.
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  8803. okay. @Cleatus546 
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  8804. i don't consider myself incel anymore. @Cleatus546 
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  8805.  @Hunter-th2fr  that's an acceptable risk
    1
  8806.  @Martini4466  I don't recall advocating for socialism. That terms only comes up when the government helps poor people. Nice try.
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  8807.  @AholeAtheist  both parties are bought by corporations.
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  8808.  @tidus9942  that doesn't justify slave wages.
    1
  8809. House. Car. Healthcare. College.
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  8810.  @mitchstevens820  pay enough for anyone to be able to afford whatever house or healthcare he/she desires.
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  8811.  @mitchstevens820  there's no such thing as a free market, markets are regulated in many different ways.
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  8812.  @mitchstevens820  or it could be paying someone enough to where he/she does not require any welfare(medicaid. Food stamps. Etc.).
    1
  8813. Nope. The rich get free money and are cradled to the grave.
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  8814. LOL.
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  8815. Yes. Why is that bad?
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  8816. Yes.
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  8817. Wrong message. That means the government can extend an eviction ban at any time. From any place. It's about precedent.
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  8818. Ok
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  8819. Correct.
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  8820.  @davidpeppers551  under profit sharing these people would be making $100k a year.
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  8821. i was cashier working very hard for seven years, after all that time i spent working, i came out making fifty cents above starting pay. and i started making ten dollars at that.
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  8822. @Esonon  yes. I will never return to fast food or retail. I'm looking into becoming a reporter now. It doesn't require a college education, but it pays above ten dollars. And I enjoy interviewing people.
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  8823. @Esonon  to that end, that means you support a living wage minimum wage and unions correct? I literally could not command a $15/hr wage on my own. I could have collectively or via government intervention.
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  8824. ​@WaxPaper north carolina denied medicaid expansion. I'm 28. I lost my medicaid at 26. And my sister will lose her medicaid soon too.
    1
  8825. It's disgusting that unemployment benefits are higher than the wages employers offer. That means the business climate = poverty
    1
  8826. $758,000/year income or $11.1 million wealth(usa federal income taxes). North Carolina: top 1% is making $506,000/yr.
    1
  8827.  @gracieb.3054  yep
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  8828. We've spent trillions of dollars on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. trillions of dollars on tax cuts for the rich. Our politicians can end poverty. They don't care.
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  8829. @AS Deckard  I'm aware of that. My point is USA spends money on what it values the most- and ending poverty is not one of them.
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  8830.  @somchai272  which is the real reason Republicans are trying to cut welfare and unemployment, because it's basically a soft form of ubi: workers having more power.
    1
  8831. Women may get horny but they can get laid far easier than men Otherwise I wouldn't be a virgin at 27.
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  8832. Republicans hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have welfare programs. If poor people are deprived of welfare, then they are forced to work for whatever money that they can get. And if you implement universal healthcare no one will accept medical debt. The rich and powerful want people to not be able to survive.
    1
  8833. Exactly
    1
  8834. ​ @acupofcoffee.please thank you
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  8835. If minimum wage kept pace with Wall Street bonuses it'd be $61/hr.
    1
  8836. Politicians oppose policies which reduce poverty long term.
    1
  8837.  @Dennzer1  that is a band aid. Wipe out low wage work everywhere
    1
  8838.  @Dennzer1  okay my bad.
    1
  8839.  @Dennzer1  there's a big difference between how politicians view disability benefits vs minimum wage workers. Most politicians believe the former deserves help where as the latter do not. I have never seen a single politician upset over $900k salary for neurosurgeons but $32k a year is "too much" for cashiers.
    1
  8840. Federal laws require a new constitutional amendment.
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  8841. I don't understand. Why would the government provide welfare for people who can't survive but not support a living wage at the same time?
    1
  8842. A $425k house? Do they think all home owners are millionaires and billionaires?
    1
  8843. ​ @jam6876 exactly
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  8844. So you believe poor people don't deserve that much money
    1
  8845. They already cut hours to avoid being eligible for benefits. Blame greedy corporations, not poor people
    1
  8846. ​ @mkadi70 yep
    1
  8847.  @Metal0sopher  wow
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  8848. ​ @Metal0sopher that's messed up
    1
  8849. Yep.
    1
  8850. Yep
    1
  8851. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick
    1
  8852. At no point in US history have we implemented welfare that was both a guaranteed income and had no work requirements or anything else.
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  8853. Much less one that was direct cash assistance.
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  8854. No. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. School isn't counted as work either, leaving many college students without Medicaid.
    1
  8855. My replies are deleted
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  8856. Correct.
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  8857.  @TheThirdDaySH  like I said, it isn't about logic
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  8858.  @NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot  okay
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  8859. ​ @sleepinggiant4062 not careers? And what are?
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  8860.  @HaHaThatIsFunny  I'm pursuing a physics degree now. It is alot harder than being a cashier at a supermarket. Alas, this is what I want to do.
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  8861.  @WonderDerek  so you this is a moral issue to you: you believe it's your right to tell poor people what to make.
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  8862.  @Viviorko  what are you talking about? Nobody is demeaning actors for wanting a living wage, much less the millions that some of them make.
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  8863.  @Viviorko  no it isn't. If we, as a society were all for everyone making a living wage, we would demean nobody. Actors, teachers, garbage men, trade workers, all get unions/living wages, But when fast food workers want the same, all of a sudden there is public outcry. Many people think fast food workers deserve poverty.
    1
  8864.  @diannaguillory455  everyone cannot obtain senior level positions or go to college.
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  8865.  @boomboompow5687  okay? That doesn't mean fast food workers deserve poverty or that anyone else does for that matter.
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  8866.  @boomboompow5687  yes. I mean both absolute and relative sense. Absolute sense you agree with me on. The relative sense? Just because there is inequality does not mean there must be relative poverty. Just because a CEO makes more than a janitor does not mean the janitor should be unable to afford three meals a day or go without healthcare or housing.
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  8867.  @boomboompow5687  in relation to the minimum wage debate, many people think minimum wage workers are morally inferior to everyone else and worthless. Many people WOULD be upset at cashiers making six figures.
    1
  8868. That's scary.
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  8869.  @barbarastrayhorn4667  exactly!
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  8870.  @screenarts  yes. You need to be wealthy to live comfortably in LA.
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  8871.  @darkhorse381  it isn't. If businesses wanted to pay that much, they would do it already without the government.
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  8872.  @darkhorse381  unfortunately the cost of living is too high. Houses are $200k+. Degrees are $100k+. Healthcare can be millions out of pocket. AND wages are low.
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  8873.  @CovidVirgin  900k? So only for rich people?
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  8874.  @TheFlyingFox14  that's depressing
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  8875. The real reason conservatives hate living wage is because they believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
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  8876. Wow.
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  8877. Republicans don't want to end poverty.
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  8878.  @ShastaBean  yes.
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  8879.  @joewright9879  because of ignorance and fear
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  8880. @joewright9879  remember this: the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. Californians refuse to accept the risks with helping immigrants have healthcare, meaning they don't want to help them.
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  8881. Poverty exists on purpose
    1
  8882. Exactly
    1
  8883. Yep.
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  8884. Yep
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  8885. EXACTLY.
    1
  8886. Exactly.
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  8887. Then companies should pay people more?
    1
  8888. Irony.
    1
  8889. ​ @mikepalmer1971 exactly
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  8890. Why is that?
    1
  8891.  @chino313  that too.
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  8892.  @chino313  unfortunately biden cannot expand funding for grants on his own. He can for loans.
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  8893.  @PatriotsAndPioneers  poverty is a policy choice.
    1
  8894. Because our politicians are bought and owned by corporations. As long people can rely on welfare or debt to make up the difference for crummy wages, the government will keep jacking up prices.
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  8895.  @RevivingLogic  that's population control. You're advocating for eugenics. You're also a devout capitalist who refuses to acknowledge systemic problems.
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  8896. ​ @tazmanian1033 beautiful 😊
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  8897. Because politicians don't want to end poverty. Workers being educated means they won't put up with slave wages.
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  8898. It seems like the entire K-12 system is how poor kids go to school.
    1
  8899. Yep
    1
  8900. You can't buy intimacy
    1
  8901. Right.
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  8902. Reading that made me cry.
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  8903. Correct. Kamala is useless.
    1
  8904. Exactly
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  8905. Most poor people already do have a job .
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  8906. Damn.
    1
  8907. It's a way to demean poor people
    1
  8908. Being an incel is mental, not physical.
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  8909.  @aaliyahhenderson1888  I shall!
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  8910.  @aaliyahhenderson1888  I do hope to lose my virginity one day....
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  8911. Revealing poverty is a policy choice
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  8912. I'm not gay.
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  8913. Exactly.
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  8914. Correct.
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  8915. look at the POTUS. He has 24/7 armed security, armored transportation, food services, all free. If gun ownership isn't neccessary then the Secret Service would ditch their guns in favor of knives.
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  8916. Yes, because straight women and gay men can get laid without money.
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  8917. Seriously?
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  8918. Noone can live on. That's why welfare fills the gap.
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  8919. Wow
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  8920. They believe that being poor is a moral failing and poor people don't deserve healthcare
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  8921. Thank you.
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  8922. Wow.
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  8923. Yes.
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  8924. They're jobs for adults now. And not all teenagers have parents who can support them.
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  8925.  @Sweet-fn6po  I am in college. Pursuing a bachelor's of physics degree right now. You do understand that not everyone can go to college, right? Not everyone can get a better job. Even if they could, people would be upset that the jobs they just criticized aren't filled.
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  8926.  @Sweet-fn6po  teenagers Don't deserve to experience poverty either. Especially when not all teenagers don't have parents capable and willing to support them.
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  8927.  @Sweet-fn6po  I can't deal with YouTube. My freaking replies get deleted after I post them.
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  8928.  @Sweet-fn6po  43% of people in USA live in poverty. That is 140 million people. There are not enough slots in college, whether it is public, private or community, for everyone to go. Not everyone can afford to go even if there were enough slots. And again, if everyone "got a better job," who is left to do fast food jobs? Nobody.
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  8929.  @Sweet-fn6po  you're right. Success does take hard work and dedication. But let's not pretend people work fast food jobs, that are dead-end and undignified, because it's easy. People who work these jobs are indeed willing to do them. Or more accurately, they are unable to be unwilling, to do such jobs and do so at low cost to businesses.
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  8930.  @Sweet-fn6po  yes. It sucks.
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  8931.  @Sweet-fn6po  the federal poverty rate is kept artificially low for several reasons, one being to not account for inflation. The poor people's campaign estimates the poverty rate at close to half the country: 43.3% of the population. Slots, positions, etc. Yes. There are not an extra 140 million or even 14 million, slots for all poor people to go to college. Even if there was, they can't all afford the time and money to go.
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  8932.  @Sweet-fn6po  no. This is about the simple fact these jobs are demanded to exist by people, but disrespected at the same time. A job is a job. Not everyone can go to college nor should they have to. All the groups of people you mentioned don't deserve poverty either.
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  8933.  @Sweet-fn6po  okay. I just find it hard pursuing community college now. I was able to do it and be a visiting student at a four year university a while back. I got frustrated I wasn't able to get accepted into the university (not high enough GPA). I just want a Physics Degree so badly I cried not getting in. I guess what I'm saying is all the liberal news media I listen to has been telling me life is supposed to be easier, especially through the government. When it seems life doesn't work that way
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  8934.  @Sweet-fn6po  yeah I should suck it up and earn the life I want. Making six figures isn't a right like voting or freedom of speech.
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  8935.  @Sweet-fn6po  most people in my city are in poverty yes.
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  8936. That's messed up
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  8937. Holy crap.
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  8938. What if it $25/ hr?
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  8939.  @JerseyJersey100  the problem is owners have more bargaining power than the workers so pay will always be based on what one side wants.
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  8940.  @JerseyJersey100  the owners still have the upper hand(for the time being). Idk how this pandemic will turn out.
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  8941. Wow
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  8942. 100+ people?
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  8943. I'm happy for you and agree with you. I make $10/hr as a cashier. 1. Most jobs in my state pay crazy low wages 2. Community College is $18,000 without financial aid. That's more than I make a year. 3. Something like 140 million people are in poverty.
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  8944. So you make $191,000/yr and she makes $574,000/yr?
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  8945. It's only communism when the government helps poor people.
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  8946. Yep
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  8947. The REAL reason conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage is because they believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money.
    1
  8948. Wow.
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  8949. Exactly.
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  8950. Not everyone can do or should do a trade job.
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  8951.  @jawant6039  doesn't mean we should punish people who simply want better lives for themselves.
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  8952. @jawant6039  no single college student controls the cost of tuition, if they could, there wouldn't be student loan debt in the first place. That's like saying a single low wage worker could change the labor market to stop paying poverty wages all on their own.
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  8953. Why is a 100k bonus bad?
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  8954. @falconerd343  I hope to become a journalist one day, discussing politics. Trying to create an America where we all agree.
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  8955. Exactly
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  8956. Yep.
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  8957. Fox news: Poor people asking for more money: "greed is bad." Rich people asking for more money: "greed is good."
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  8958. Yes
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  8959. Conservatives believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class, which is what unions help accomplish
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  8960. You don't know if prices will have to rise and labor isn't the only cost of business.
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  8961.  @OldmanJM  I doubt price increases would occur anyway, that is if there is no increase in economic activity. Which I don't believe for one second would happen if our economy switched from the poverty wage model it has now to more sustainable wages. And any business that can't or won't survive such a transition deserves to burn to the ground then considering wages are lousy for most open jobs anyway. We have the too much welfare like the earned income tax credit to make up for employers paying lousy wages.
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  8962. You're right. I'm changing my life.
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  8963. Yes
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  8964.  @eldrickemc4602  ok
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  8965. @theaverageone9289  I hate billionaires
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  8966.  @Joedaniels007  friends actors make $20 million a year for life
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  8967. No, the problem is many people hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty.
    1
  8968. Exactly.
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  8969. They can't
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  8970. What Kyle doesn't understand is the REAL reason why conservatives a living wage minimum wage: their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities them to earn. Conservatives hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty. They view working in fast food or retail as a punishment.
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  8971. I'm out here making $10.50/hr as a cashier when homes cost $464,00+
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  8972.  @palehorse7377  brother I do not vote. I receive no living wage and zero benefits PLUS no chance of career advancement from a minimum wage job. Then "temping/temporary positions" offer the same things as well: minimum wage, lack of benefits, etc.
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  8973. There's more to my life than me being a virgin, but I know losing my virginity is on my mind.
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  8974. Ok
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  8975. I'm still a little confused
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  8976. One senator said 400k a year is middle class.
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  8977. That's messed up.
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  8978. Why did Reagan believe that?
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  8979.  @royhuang9715  true but there's confirmation bias.... People will always try to confirm their own beliefs and reject others.
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  8980.  @workingshlub8861  correct. I'm paid $10/hr as a cashier. I don't make even $17/hr. Which wouldn't be a great wage anyway.
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  8981. No, we don't. Otherwise, there'd be a living wage and free college, something most Americans support.
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  8982.  @jhutch1470  ok.
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  8983. that's the problem, business owners do not want to do that. business owners and politicians treat rising worker power, not continued poverty, as unacceptable.
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  8984. Yep.
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  8985. Your core belief isn't supported because many conservatives believe poor people shouldn't get healthcare
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  8986. Because?
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  8987. Because it isn't about the cost, it's about the other side of politics: ideology. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because they see poor people as deserving of their suffering. And because ending poverty would destroy Corporations.
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  8988. I'm poor. I have nowhere to go.
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  8989. Republicans love poverty.
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  8990. Well how about you look at when you were 25 in the seventies when we had a manufacturing economy, and those jobs are gone and replaced with service jobs.
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  8991.  @ledwysdelgado7304  just world fallacy...
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  8992.  @ledwysdelgado7304  do you support cashiers making enough money to afford a home?
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  8993. Exactly.
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  8994. You are correct. Rich people can't be rich without poverty.
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  8995. ​ @dansmodacct  if being poor was a choice, nobody would be poor.
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  8996. ​@Jordan Haddow correct..Unless I get a full ride scholarship or grant, I will not be able to afford community college. Even if the government made trade schools and universities tuition free, that leaves out private schools ($60,000/year), graduate schools, and living expenses.
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  8997. You'd need a poor person in charge.
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  8998. I trust poor people more.
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  8999. ​ @nela9994 that's messed up
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  9000.  @nela9994  she doesn't deem poverty unacceptable like rape. That is sickening.
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  9001. @nela9994  remember this line: the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. What we deem intolerable. BTW, the real reason she and other Republicans oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. No neurosurgeon is on food stamps because making $900k/year makes applying to food stamps pointless. Reverse that, pay poor people enough to afford healthcare, and poor people won't work for slave wages.
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  9002.  @TheNecessaryEvil  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills
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  9003. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Everyone cannot "get a better job." Someone has to work there.
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  9004.  @craigoOZ  exactly.
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  9005. Some places require $54/hr wage.
    1
  9006. I'm happy for him as an incel. I don't represent most incels.
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  9007. I'm a loser myself but losers get laid.
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  9008. Yes. It's messed up.
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  9009. $30,000 a day?
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  9010. That's disgusting.
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  9011.  @sbl17jackson37  i don't hate rich people. I HATE rich people who think they're qualified to speak about poverty.
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  9012. I would lie too for $16 million a year.
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  9013. Right.
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  9014. McDonald's CEO makes $17 million a year.
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  9015. If i made even 1% of that i would cry.
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  9016.  @sethseth9059  I meant 1%. 1% of 17M is not 24,000. It is $170k.
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  9017.  @sethseth9059  24,000 is way too low.
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  9018.  @sethseth9059  yeah i made a typo earlier.
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  9019.  @sethseth9059  yeah i made a typo. My point was the pay ratio is too high(no i don't work at McDonald's).
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  9020. To force people to work for slave wages. So that people do the dirty work of society to make rich people happy.
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  9021. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office
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  9022. Ok
    1
  9023. Exactly lol
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  9024. That's evil. I'm in that same situation too.
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  9025. ​ @mikeanbrensmusic That is evil
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  9026. ​ @mikeanbrensmusic  that's evil
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  9027. His sentence was reduced to 25 years. His life is still over.
    1
  9028. Good god.
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  9029. LOL.
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  9030. ​ @Incel_81 ok
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  9031. We don't know that.
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  9032. ​ @seversheen3044 we literally don't know how this wage increase would spur demand or reduce welfare spending, or both.
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  9033. ​ @imnotmike I couldn't have said it better myself.
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  9034. Yep.
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  9035. Yep
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  9036. Yep.
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  9037. I want to lose my virginity. I'm 29.
    1
  9038. That would be epic.
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  9039. ​@hailey8941probably good grades and attend school full-time
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  9040. ​ @KeiPalace I'm poor going to community college
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  9041. It's still subsidies to businesses​ @milosniffer5293 
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  9042. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  9043.  @williampennjr.4448  cost is relative. $10 USD is rich in Africa but pennies in NYC.
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  9044.  @williampennjr.4448  it does when the average college costs $10,000 not $1,000.
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  9045.  @williampennjr.4448  what? I'm saying the growth of cost of living expenses has been faster than growth of wages(for everyone besides the top 10%).
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  9046.  @williampennjr.4448  in 1975 the median home price was $48,000. It's over $410,000 today.
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  9047.  @williampennjr.4448  I was saying the minimum wage does not drive up prices. College has gone up far faster than wages along with everything else. You buy a house....with money....that you get from wages.... So yes wages are what allow people to purchase homes.
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  9048.  @williampennjr.4448  50k. Wow. That...is still low compared to housing now.
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  9049.  @williampennjr.4448  Noone making 7.25 is saving up for anything. Over half of Americans can't afford an unexpected $400 emergency. Debt and welfare are what prevent massive homelessness and starvation.
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  9050.  @williampennjr.4448  that's less than $15. So still poverty wages.
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  9051. They are both problems.
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  9052. ​ @DIYFilms. Then you are saying these workers being in poverty is acceptable.
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  9053. ​ @JanglesPrime-jp8ff thank you
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  9054. All priorities are not created equal. if ending poverty was the top priority then magnified inflation would be a risk you'd be willing to take.
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  9055.  @DIYFilms.  Okay.
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  9056.  @DIYFilms.  Okay, I don't know what else to say.
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  9057. Walmart would go bankrupt.
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  9058. That's messed up.
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  9059. It's easier to blame the victim than the perpetrator because otherwise they'd be tackling the root of the problem.
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  9060. They'd cry making $50,000/year
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  9061.  @juanwilliams3423  same
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  9062. ​@colleeporter2657that's evil
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  9063. You don't need to understand economics. This is about priorities. The truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable. There wouldn't need to be a living wage minimum wage or unions if corporations simply paid people enough in the first place. Just like doctors don't need to apply for food stamps in the first place.
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  9064.  @jamesn2415  It has nothing to do with economics. Rape is unacceptable. So is kidnapping. We are willing to accept whatever consequences in fighting against these forms of suffering. But we are not willing to tolerate the consequences in fighting against poverty.
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  9065. @James N  I understand it. I'm not changing the subject. I'm telling you everyone has priorities, and they're based on what they are not willing to put up with.
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  9066.  @DoritoWorldOrder  value is subjective. We can decide to value workers more.
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  9067.  @DoritoWorldOrder  human beings. You. Me and everybody else.
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  9068.  @DoritoWorldOrder  what are you talking about?
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  9069.  @lacigalvanssleepmeditation8160  you're not also guaranteed loans and there's a cap on both time and income
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  9070. ​ @Debbie338  I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Would using a hooker cure me being incel?
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  9071. ​@Future Greatest President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez you can't buy intimacy. Using a hooker solves nothing.
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  9072.  @brantleyerik  that's worse.
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  9073. ​ @LuciferXFallen290 I've been called a socially inept Virgin.
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  9074. ​ @LarryWater exactly
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  9075. Hookers don't offer genuine affection.
    1
  9076.  @AshleySteelxxx  exactly
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  9077. @Tranzor Z exactly
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  9078. Fallacy of relative privation. Not a good fallacy to believe in
    1
  9079. Strawman.
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  9080. Lolol.
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  9081. 1. Republicans oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  9082. The thinking of conservatives is- only rich people and business owners deserve more money and government help. Not the poor.
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  9083. ​@waltergrace565 I don't believe that.
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  9084.  @mazzy2121  you are correct. the problem is ideological, not economic. corporations and politicans don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape,
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  9085.  @InternetMameluq  that hasn't led to much gain, it's other factors.
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  9086. That's messed up
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  9087. Not everyone can move up to management. These aren't jobs filled by teenagers anymore.
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  9088. Republicans hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  9089.  @muslimminarchist7026  200k education? Most people don't have that kind of spare cash for college. Food stamps would be unneccessary if people made enough at their jobs to afford food unaided. Healthcare puts many people in debt and although emergency healthcare is provided, long-term or preventive care is not. Some states have denied Medicaid expansion which means anyone 25 or older can't get Medicaid no matter how low their income.
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  9090.  @muslimminarchist7026  Businesses are subsidized via intellectual property, no practical cap on the quantity or quality of acquisitons and mergers, outsourcing and downsizing cutting down on labor costs, having decreased profit sharing for its workforce, quantitative easing and yield curve control.
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  9091.  @muslimminarchist7026  And primary education is funded primarily through property taxes, which amplifies existing poverty and the gap between the rich and poor. Quantity and quality matter.
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  9092.  @muslimminarchist7026  I already told you the way primary school is funded makes education deeply unequal and insufficient. Even if the cost was 200 million the core way K-12 is funded is inherently flawed. Second off many jobs offer terribly low poverty wages-which is the fault of our society for allowing such wages to exist. Ditto for online jobs you mention. $6 an hour made in 1970 with just a 3% inflation adjustment for 40 years translates to over $42/hr today. Many, many Americans make far less than that. And that's not accounting for the skyrocketing costs of housing, transportation, and many other things. I might as well not even mention making enough money to save up for retirement. Third off many "worthy" jobs(STEM fields) require a college degree which is unattainable out of pocket for most Americans. The US provides healthcare, it's just too expensive, complicated, and unequal.
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  9093. Okay buddy. Believe your lies.
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  9094. People know you can't buy respect or love. But you can buy power and control, which is really what rich people want.
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  9095. They believe the lie that poverty is a moral failing
    1
  9096. Wow
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  9097. I'm 28 and a virgin. I have never kissed anyone before either. Or hugged. Or held hands
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  9098. It doesn't want to
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  9099. I'm incel virgin
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  9100.  @doingtime20  ok
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  9101. Thank you.
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  9102. Yep.
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  9103. Hahaha.
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  9104. Welfare too
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  9105. Incels don't want to pay to get laid.
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  9106. Since very few jobs, that are well-paying, exist that are accessible without a college education, let alone a high school education that used to be a ticket to the middle class.
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  9107. Yes. Ben wants an underclass.
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  9108.  @Thed538dhsk  13/hr...this country is allowing wage slavery.
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  9109.  @Thed538dhsk  i bet if joe biden made minimum wage he'd raise it to 45 per hour real quick.
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  9110.  @HelloThere-xs8ss  Yes.
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  9111. I cried.
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  9112.  @DinoDino118  agreed
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  9113.  @mohamedsaid9416  idk.
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  9114. Because disabled people are seen as a burden
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  9115. Ideology creates conflict, along with scarcity.
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  9116. You want cheap burgers over a reduction in poverty?
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  9117.  @jimbob9407  expensive burgers over workers having a living wage
    1
  9118. Holy crap
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  9119. Because republicans hate the poor and pack empathy, with each one feeding the other.
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  9120. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  9121. I'm a poor community college student taking 10 credits. I lost my food stamps because I don't work and I'm able bodied and without dependents.
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  9122. Because people don't believe healthcare is a right
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  9123. That made me cry... I've realized how messed up I've been to women as an incel.
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  9124.  @Scott-wr7vr  very few high paying jobs exist for people with only a high school diploma now.
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  9125. I don't vote at all
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  9126. Exactly.
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  9127. Great video, Ms. Miller! But I believe lobbying is a symptom, not a cause. What really is at stake here, is ideology. Kamala Harris would not accept $4 billion to deny women the constitutional right to vote. Or $4 trillion. Or any amount of money. What politicians are really saying is that they find certain sources of deprivation acceptable. Depriving women of voting is unacceptable. Depriving women of healthcare IS acceptable. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable. We, as a country, are not willing to accept the risks to change everything.
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  9128. That's disgusting.
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  9129. Still bad.
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  9130. Republicans hate welfare for 2 reasons: 1. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. 2. They believe helping the poor become middle class is rewarding failure.
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  9131. What about them?
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  9132. Ok
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  9133.  @ryancouture1436  because people like in the OP subscribe to just world fallacy.
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  9134. Beautiful
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  9135. I'm also no real estate expert but how come Los Angeles can't end homelessness? It's a simple matter of building enough housing is it not?
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  9136.  @JohnA...  I looked it up apparently there needs to be 7 million more homes needed for poor people. America has enough money to provide a home for every homeless person and every poor person.
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  9137.  @saxonderohan9723  so then the additional problems are people have low paying jobs(relative to cost of living) and the city's inhabitants don't want to allow sufficient housing construction for the homeless? The second one ties into the central problem of not building enough housing but I see what you mean.
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  9138.  @saxonderohan9723  I mean I don't even have to google to know LA homes must be expensive. I doubt anyone besides millionaires and billionaires can afford homes(out of pocket, not relying on a mortgage). Is there no price cap on homes, say two or three times the median home price?
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  9139.  @saxonderohan9723  what steps would you take? to end homelessness
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  9140.  @saxonderohan9723  yeah man I would just outright ban the rich from being able to purchase homes....ever. After they purchase their first home they're banned from ever buying any home ever again. That would not make many rich people happy. And I would Force corporations who purchase homes to not rent them out but literally provide permanent housing for people. I'm just spitballing here but it seems like Los Angeles would have to go in and purchase existing properties and prevent the rich and corporations from purchasing them. Then also fight local neighborhoods in providing cheap housing. This country needs a national housing program on an almost unprecedented scale.
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  9141.  @saxonderohan9723  could LA cap home prices or the number of homes purchased? Or purchase existing properties and convert them into "low income" homes?
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  9142.  @saxonderohan9723  so basically provide affordable homes/city wide housing program and create higher paying jobs(i doubt the minimum wage in LA in even $20).
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  9143.  @saxonderohan9723  well i thought i mentioned higher wages. higher minimum wage, even higher profit sharing. Those seem like straightforward solutions, not easy, but doable.
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  9144. He was rich too.
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  9145. Because it's about Calvinism. Many people ideologically oppose helping others get for free what they themselves have to work for.
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  9146. Correct.
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  9147. ​@Ian Alan Take out a loan to get a degree they cannot otherwise afford.
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  9148. Everyone cannot work their way up from minimum wage work
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  9149. Wow
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  9150. Exactly but these pundits believe in just world fallacy.
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  9151. Lol
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  9152. That's by design. Politicians don't want poverty to end
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  9153. That's messed up
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  9154.  @chaytonrodriguez4468  exactly.
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  9155. No.
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  9156. No. No he doesn't.
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  9157. Yep.
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  9158. They don't want poverty to end
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  9159. Everyone can't be business owners.
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  9160.  @whytheface777  okay, but if everyone quits then people will complain that those minimum wage jobs aren't being filled. That is the fallacy of relative privation.
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  9161. Yes
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  9162. Republicans believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  9163. Yes.
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  9164. Thank you.
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  9165. Exactly.
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  9166. So quantitative easing is the federal reserve printing money and then giving it to rich people? I don't understand why is it people then complain whenever we spend money to help poor people.
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  9167. This is correct but what you don't understand and what Kyle has yet to understand Is that the reason conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage is based on morals. Conservatives believe minimum wage workers and poor people in general are lazy and that minimum wage workers are asking to make more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  9168. A living wage for a single parent of 3 kids is $55/hr. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. I feel worthless.
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  9169. Just-world fallacy
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  9170. Doesn't work.
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  9171. Exactly.
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  9172. Ok
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  9173. If only poor people could run for office.
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  9174. I'm a virgin at 29
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  9175. That's messed up
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  9176. ​@J Dice Truthfully republicans believe in just world fallacy. they assign value to people based on how hard they work the idea that if you don't or can't work hard, you have no values is disgusting.
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  9177. Then increase reimbursement rates so more doctors take Medicaid.
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  9178. None. These idiots know this they just don't care.
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  9179. Well McDonald's pays $2,000 a year ..if you can manage 40 hours a week for 6 consecutive months and if you aren't staying on campus.
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  9180. It's not really the income level rich people obsess over. It's how hard you work. Rich people assign value based on how hard you work. If you are not willing or capable of working hard, or working at all, then you have no value.
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  9181. Unless you work or are disabled. Clinton's welfare reform was based on three things
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  9182. 1. Poor people don't deserve welfare 2. Welfare is restricted to force poor people into minimum wage jobs 3. Poor women shouldn't have kids The beliefs of Congress, not myself
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  9183.  @dustinDraig  workfare
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  9184.  @fluxrider7027  I lost welfare because I don't work
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  9185. ​ @thanksforreadindmyunusuall3346  exactly
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  9186. Yes
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  9187. Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  9188. @@AmericanScout-USA LOL.
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  9189. Acting can be done by 16 year olds and pay millions.
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  9190. @@AmericanScout-USA wow.
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  9191. Yes
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  9192. Wow
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  9193. Because it helps the poor
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  9194. I won't use a hooker because it isn't real affection. Imagine paying someone to marry you, that isn't something to be proud of.
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  9195. @jan6742  that's about entitlement then, not sex
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  9196. I'm incel virgin
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  9197. ​@jan6742I'm still a virgin and it's WOMEN'S FAULT.
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  9198. So if Walmart workers received more stock and that resulted in a $100,000 per cashier you're fine with that?
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  9199. Yep.
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  9200. Yep
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  9201. He felt like sex is a right, not a privilege.
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  9202. ​ @kract76 it costs MORE than paying for a living wage.
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  9203. Correct Dan.
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  9204. So.... I have to work for sex? I have to earn it?
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  9205. If Chic Fil A paid its workers according to profits made and not skill its cashiers would make around $100,000 a year.
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  9206. ​@NorfolkCatKickers there aren't enough high paying jobs for minimum wage workers.
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  9207. College is too expensive for minimum wage workers to get.
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  9208. @NorfolkCatKickers  All I'm saying is that to get more money in a job, you need more education or responsibility. Well, Walmart doesn't offer enough promotions, so everyone can't gain responsibility. They don't pay you anywhere near enough for college, so you can't gain more education. Trade jobs are in unions, which don't exist in large enough numbers anymore, and certainly not for fast food. What are these workers supposed to do? They're supposed to work in fast food and retail forever, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement?
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  9209. @NorfolkCatKickers  There are no jobs you can get with only a high school degree that pay well any more.I I guess that isn't wal-mart fault either.
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  9210.  @brothersandsistersofvalhalla  Exactly.
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  9211. That's disgusting.
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  9212. ​ @spb4455  that's crazy
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  9213. Exactly.
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  9214. Poverty says otherwise....
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  9215.  @Bill.Connor  that doesn't make poverty acceptable...
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  9216.  @Bill.Connor  you literally are saying poverty is acceptable. And yes poverty is a policy choice so it can be legislated away.
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  9217.  @Bill.Connor  nothing is given? Okay so i guess we don't give women the right to vote.
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  9218.  @BadAssElf810  yep.
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  9219. Price increases have happened anyway with the minimum wage being stagnant. Nothing is priced for people making minimum wage.
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  9220. Because the point of welfare is to perpetuate poverty, not abolish it.
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  9221. Yep​ @FishAesthetic 
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  9222. What would it be accounting for other expenses.
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  9223.  @OldManGaribubee  I wish the government enforced transparency(for example, walmart posted its annual financial report breaking down every cost. It's a freaking handbook of data).
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  9224.  @OldManGaribubee  Also. $30-$50/hr compared to the $10 the employees make... It's almost like armed robbery.
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  9225. Why is $29 absurd?
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  9226.  @taikamiya8214  Are you saying you're not willing to pay that price(lost jobs) to help the working poor? Let's say $50/hr eliminated all poverty wage jobs, but cut the number of businesses in half. You'd oppose that wage increase?
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  9227.  @taikamiya8214  so if that was the price we'd have to pay, you are NOT willing to pay it?
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  9228. @Tai Kamiya  But if that's the price it takes to change the system, you're not willing to pay it?
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  9229. @Tai Kamiya  yes, but you've gotten to the root of the problem. USA Politicians are presented with a very simple choice: you can have poverty exist, or you can have worker solidarity exist, but you can not have both. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our politicians deem intolerable.
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  9230. Sounds like a great idea.
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  9231. Yep.
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  9232. I've changed and am still a virgin.
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  9233. It goes both ways. Without workers, owners make nothing.
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  9234. If weren't taking gun control to the point of no gun ownership seriously, why not go in the other direction and allow citizens to own any firearm in existence?
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  9235. I made $10.50/hr as cashier. I received no pathway to promotion. No way to pay for college. Zero benefits. Rent is $2,000/month. My healthcare costs $739/month. I'm in community college. I will need a scholarship or grant in order to afford a car.
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  9236. I'm an incel. I'm so happy for him!
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  9237. ​ @OfficialRogueLogic yes.
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  9238. I identified as incel to avoid owning my mistakes. And to avoid embracing change. I need to work to become independent. It's not a woman's responsibility to take care of me.
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  9239. Exactly
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  9240. I don't understand your point.
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  9241. Get angry at corporations who want to pay immigrants next to nothing, not immigrants who want better lives for themselves and their families.
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  9242. Because they believe poor people don't deserve to have children
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  9243. it's still affordable...for millionaires and billionaires...
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  9244. That's exactly what business owners don't want.
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  9245. Elliot said he didn't want to pay a hooker because he would be paying for something most men get for free. Imagine paying to vote.
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  9246. Losing my virginity to a prostitute is disgusting.
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  9247. My standards are zero and I'm still a virgin.
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  9248. Every single thing you've mentioned is a policy choice and can thus change.
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  9249. Everything is not only a policy choice but a moral choice as well. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising citizens' power, not continued crime, that politicians deem intolerable.
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  9250. ​ @Educatedunhousedperson yep
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  9251. ​ @jwoods9659 not everyone can do that or should do that
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  9252.  @jwoods9659  ok
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  9253. Not good
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  9254. Doctors. Hedge fund managers make $1 billion-$4 billion a year.
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  9255.  @timahlf694  in that case... Literally no jobs besides doctors....
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  9256.  @timahlf694  this senator also meant adjusted income, so gross income would have to be well over six hundred thousand a year... maybe close to a million.
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  9257.  @richdobbs6595  I don't even think the fed can be abolished. It bails out the rich too much.
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  9258. Wages are too high for minimum wage jobs....jobs rich and skilled people would never do themselves.
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  9259. Rofl
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  9260. It would have to supplement welfare. A ubi almost passed under nixon.
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  9261. Ubi doesn't pass because workers have too much power.
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  9262.  @df5826  I made $8.50/hr as a cashier working at McDonald's
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  9263. Yes
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  9264. And a 50 states are at-will employment
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  9265. ​ @haroutunsarkisyan8050 made me cry.
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  9266. @haroutunsarkisyan8050  brother. I'm at community College now. My dad didn't want to help Pay for my education. Even with financial aid, I can't afford living expenses like food. I have to use a food pantry to be able to eat. How can a country wealthier than every other leave me without education affordability?
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  9267.  @haroutunsarkisyan8050  thanks
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  9268.  @haroutunsarkisyan8050  is it bad I don't vote?
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  9269. @Orlando Acosta  I literally Cringed so hard, man. That and him avoiding the word register had me in tears laughing.
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  9270. @Orlando Acosta  Every time I watch Jon Stewart, I cry for wanting to be a journalist like him.
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  9271.  @orlandoacosta2631  yes! YES.
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  9272.  @terrymckenzie8786  yep
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  9273. Trump is used to lying, why would he avoid debating?
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  9274. ​ @sspbrazil  30 MILLION? JESUS CHRIST.
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  9275.  @sspbrazil  disgusting the same country that won't pass a $15/hr minimum wage allows someone to make that much
    1
  9276. That isn't affordable?
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  9277.  @jad67jd  you need money for that. I work minimum wage.
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  9278.  @jad67jd  I can't pay for $18,000 associates degree making $10/hr.
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  9279.  @jad67jd  trade schools cost over $3,000/semester...
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  9280.  @jad67jd  okay
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  9281. Yep
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  9282. unchecked corporate power. Some places banned its local businesses from converting its workforce to part time.
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  9283. It's not about saving money, it's about the fact that welfare pays more than minimum wage jobs, so politicians force poor people to accept such a bad deal with work requirements
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  9284. Using a Hooker does not help because one incels suffer from entitlement, not a lack of sex and 2 they don't "need" sex the way they think they do.
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  9285. Republicans believe in just world fallacy, that if you just work hard you'll get whatever job you want. In their eyes if you work a minimum wage job it's because you're lazy and did not try hard enough.
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  9286. Because they don't want to end poverty.
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  9287. conservatives believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  9288. Because politicians don't want to end poverty
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  9289.  @RCmack  Republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty.
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  9290. ​@Jackson Scofield brother I'm a virgin at 28. You're making me realize I don't try hard enough to have sex.
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  9291. ​@Jackson Scofield I forgot to mention I have no driver's license, no car, no place of my own, and I'm broke. So I don't go out and meet women.
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  9292.  @RealShaktimaan  right.
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  9293.  @RealShaktimaan  he has to liquidate his shares in order to have money to spend.
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  9294.  @phoenixrisin2269  $4/hr in the 1970s. $7/hr today. That's not even $1/hr raise per decade.
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  9295.  @phoenixrisin2269  okay.
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  9296.  @tomseidel2992  If you pay people based on profit sharing wages would be for higher for many workers. Places like Chick-fil-A make millions of dollars at each location and if they pay their employees based on the profits they'd have to pay their cashiers around $100,000 a year.
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  9297. Wow
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  9298.  @cackjasey1492  wow
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  9299. Poverty line is also very low: there's no modification for the cost of living, the affordability of healthcare or education, job security, employment benefits, consumption spending, or retirement benefits.
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  9300. That's messed up
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  9301. I have had 0 standards for women for a very long time. I'm still a virgin. A woman wanted to date me once. But since I had no driver's license or car, she refused to date.
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  9302.  @beganitdidnt6535  she had one.
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  9303. Blame greedy corporations
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  9304. @garypiatt4666  I'm willing to make less for others to make more. The answer to the other questions is no. I was a cashier. My $17/hr wage proposal was rejected. I was paid $10/hr instead. My "raise" was $0.50. If I was in a union, or government intervention, or had welfare, I'd have enough bargaining power to make more. I don't want to make $1 million per hour, but I don't want to work for minimum wage with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
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  9305.  @garypiatt4666  I'm fine with business owners making as much money as they want...as long as they didn't pay people slave wages.
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  9306. @garypiatt4666  as much as we can get? I'm not saying it's wrong to want more money. It's wrong to pay people slave wages. McDonald's can make as much money as they like...if the employers keep their workers off of government assistance. 17/hr wouldn't have been enough for me to live on anyway, consistently I was kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits.
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  9307. @garypiatt4666  poverty is not acceptable because someone works an arbitrarily named "entry-level job." In addition, entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. And not everyone can be promoted out of a low wage job.
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  9308. @garypiatt4666  There is no law stopping them from paying more. That's my point I'm trying to make here. I do not think highly of a system where the government must force companies to be motivated to keep their workers out of poverty. And entry-level jobs do not give people skills. Lastly, the real reason conservatives oppose a living wage is because their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  9309.  @garypiatt4666  corporations can choose to pay their workers more It's about priorities.
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  9310. ​@garypiatt4666 but unskilled workers don't have that option. Not in a country with almost no unions and insufficient welfare. Yes, welfare. The reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Noone works fast food at all when welfare pays more unconditionally. I don't think California has free college either.
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  9311. I have less than a month left to lose my virginity.
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  9312.  @dr1flush  conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  9313. That is the point- to perpetuate poverty
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  9314. Because worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once.
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  9315. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  9316. Elliot Rodger was rich, he could've traveled to anywhere in the world and hired any hooker. But he didn't.
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  9317. He's morally bankrupt.
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  9318. That can be done yes.
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  9319. Okay
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  9320. I'm a cashier at a grocery store. I make $10/hr. By law my grocery store has to accept food stamps but there are no laws mandating the employees themselves don't qualify for food stamps. It turns out food stamps make up 73% of sales.... Grocery stores profit off of poverty.
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  9321. Because conservatives believe in just-world fallacy. They believe anyone can become anything they want through effort alone. Either luck does not exist or it is not a contributing factor. Consequently, if you are born poor it isn't your fault but if you die poor it is. Helping the poor become middle class or rich is rewarding failure in conservative people's eyes and that is anathema to them.
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  9322. LOL I DIED LAUGHING.
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  9323. ​ @tammyhanlon3057 yep
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  9324. Not everyone can be a USPS worker. Not everyone can be a doctor or engineer.
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  9325. @Lloyd Brinker  okay? I'm saying this argument of get a better job is tiresome. If everyone were to do that, there would be no one working at fast food joints or supermarkets.
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  9326. @Lloyd Brinker  anti minimum wagers act like if every single person who works at a store learns to code, then people will never visit the supermarket ever again.
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  9327.  @LloydBrinker  that is due to a power differential. USPS would pay $60/hr if the workers had enough power. If you taxed Walmart 7x the amount their employees used in welfare benefits, which would be around 42 billion a year, walmart would start their pay at $40/hr.
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  9328.  @LloydBrinker  okay.
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  9329. @Lloyd Brinker  I believe all of that too. Unfortunately, politicians don't agree with us.
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  9330.  @LloydBrinker   I'm copying and pasting this because I believe in it like I believe in the Moon landing: Truthfully, I believe worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. Doctors can refuse to work for $10/hr. Cashiers can't. Minimum wage workers, and most workers in general, do not possess the skills/power of doctors. If everyone did, no one would accept poverty wages. I also believe the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. And it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that America finds unacceptable. It is more important to our political and business leaders to fight against workers having more bargaining power(living wage, unions, sectoral bargaining) than to fight against their impoverishment.
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  9331. I'd be fine with that.
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  9332. You're cruel
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  9333.  @psychicspy  poverty is a societal problem, not an individual one.
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  9334.  @psychicspy  43% of Americans live in poverty.
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  9335. What does SOE mean?
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  9336. Because women can't be incels. Any woman can get laid. The same is not true for straight men.
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  9337. It won't fix the massive amount of poverty
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  9338. Yep.
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  9339. ​@CasualPhilosopher inflation and automation are risks with the reduction of poverty. This reveals not your love of poverty but rather your opposition to the inconveniences that would accompany poverty's elimination. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our politicians find unacceptable.
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  9340. @CasualPhilosopher  considering record profits in the trillions for corporations, plus the trillions MORE in subsidies they get, even 100 isn't insane. And yes, you are correct, not supporting slave wages overseas is taking what I said to its logical conclusion. But my first point is that America doesn't find poverty unacceptable.
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  9341. @CasualPhilosopher  there's nothing idealistic about what I'm saying. If we truly found poverty unacceptable, we would accept whatever risks, whatever consequences, and whatever prices that came our way in fighting against poverty. We are unwilling to tolerate these consequences. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty.
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  9342. @CasualPhilosopher  1. I'm glad you agree with me about the priorities. About how, on some level, america does not find poverty unacceptable like rape or terrorism. 2. I'm glad you're admitting that middle-class people benefit from the poverty of others. Namely, cheap and mass-produced consumer goods. 2a. When walmart raised wages, most people were more upset that walmart wasn't as cheap anymore than the fact that many workers escaped poverty. That means they prioritize cheap prices over poverty's reduction. They oppose the inconveniences that would accompany poverty's elimination. 3. Going back to point one: there's nothing money can do to change the elites opposition to poverty because, as I said, the problem is ideological, not economic. As long as kamala harris thinks me making $7.25/hr is just as meaningless as a dog being walked, more money won't solve anything. Eliminating poverty in the USA requires a shift in our priorities, our values. Everyone, from the middle class to billionaires, must undergo this.
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  9343. @CasualPhilosopher  now to your question: barrier to change. Simple, deny women voting. That get your attention? Let me explain. Women were denied voting in this country for over 100 years. Women were treated like garbage. But, women managed to change the values of America and look at where women are now within American society. Women being able to vote, hold public office, control their own lives, has made the WORLD a much more wonderful place. This required a shift in our priorities, our values. A shift occurred on a fundamental level within every aspect of American society. A shift I believe has never occurred before or since in USA history.
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  9344. @CasualPhilosopher  I used to make it. My first job paid that. The most i made as a cashier was $11/hr at Walmart. Human beings are always selfish, I think it's impossible to do something without regard to your own well-being. Me believing women deserve to vote is just as selfish as me enjoying Star Trek(hence my name).
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  9345.  @JustADudeGamer  I'd like your response on women's suffrage (my comment on it)
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  9346.  @FletchforFreedom  you're a troll.
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  9347. @r8chelletters  This pandemic revealed that the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our politicians find unacceptable.
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  9348.  @JustADudeGamer  my main policy to eliminate poverty would be a guaranteed income. This would give workers power.
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  9349.  @JustADudeGamer  beautiful
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  9350.  @thanos8638  they invest money into the business so yes there is risk.
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  9351. It's called survivorship bias.
    1
  9352. Yep.
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  9353. ​@Bunny Boo worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once.
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  9354. You'd need $51/hr to take care of 3 kids. Not accounting for the cost of college or saving for retirement.
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  9355. They'd ask for a $50/hr minimum wage.
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  9356. 30 years? You're joking right?
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  9357. Keeping the poor around.
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  9358. Prostitutes don't offer genuine affection.
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  9359. And be written in the constitution
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  9360. Because what you're not really seeing is values: worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once.
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  9361. The truth of our values lies in the risk we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
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  9362. ​ @dancinginfernal yep
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  9363. ​ @dancinginfernal disabled people are seen as worthless
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  9364. That's the point: to not eliminate poverty.
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  9365. Poverty is a policy choice
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  9366. I feel like conservatives treat the rich and poor differently.
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  9367. I know.
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  9368. They don't want to change because they see nothing wrong with poverty morally.
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  9369. Ok.
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  9370. How would you feel if they made $15 an hour? 25? 50?
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  9371. How would you feel if they made $15 an hour? 25? 50?
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  9372. Times change
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  9373. I'm 29. A virgin
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  9374. ​ @BEESANDTOASTY there you go.
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  9375. Because everything is controlled by the rich and for the rich. If Pelosi made minimum wage or was homeless she'd pass sweeping legislation real quick.
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  9376. I wish politicians themselves made minimum wage, had no medicaid or college education, no worker's rights, and no home. And then got a pay cut based on their approval rating.
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  9377. Because the US economy runs on poverty, we cannot do anything to end it or even reduce it.
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  9378. Also because politicians in the rich believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing m
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  9379. Ok
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  9380. You've got it right Republicans have an axiom: rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor. Anything which changes this is unfair.
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  9381. Because the government believes disabled people are a burden that should be poor or dead.
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  9382. Exactly
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  9383.  @thunderpooch  hate them both equally since they both believe the myth of meritocracy.
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  9384. That's messed up.
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  9385. Beautiful
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  9386. The problem is many people think poor people don't deserve government assistance because of just-world fallacy.
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  9387. That's sad
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  9388. Holden manifesto.
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  9389. ​ @insightfulhistorian1861 exactly
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  9390. Poor people are delusional to believe they'll become rich one day.
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  9391. Just-world fallacy and calvinism.
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  9392. Yep.
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  9393. Wow
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  9394.  @duretihailu4026  I'm saying that because that means people like rhianna aren't rich through hard work alone...or even at all. Since without IP laws she'd make nothing in the first place.
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  9395.  @domagojkosmina648  the odds are still against you to become rich.
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  9396.  @nocrtname  rich is an ever changing definition but nonetheless your premise is the fallacy of relative privation. Just because life could currently be worse does not mean it cannot currently be better. It's amazing that the USA has modern medicine, many types of engineering, rockets, sanitation, infrastructure, etc.. That does not mean it's acceptable that over 40 million people live in poverty, over 100,000 people are homeless, that millions don't have health insurance, that there is over 1 trillion in student loan debt, and so on.
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  9397.  @nocrtname  a majority of the country support the policies we just mentioned, it's just that the politicians in both parties are corrupt(because of lobbying) so they vote against those very policies and suffer no consequences. Biden promised a 15/hr minimum wage, medicare for all, no student loan debt, free college, among other things and yet he caved on all of them. Republicans, every single one in both chambers of congress, voted against the 15/hr minimum wage bill alongside some democrats even, even though over half the country wants a 15/hr minimum wage.
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  9398.  @nocrtname  i already said rich is an ever changing definition.
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  9399.  Krause Ist Prolet  there's no objective measure of merit. Every successful person owes their access to a unique mixture of talent, skill, persistence, and luck.
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  9400.  Krause Ist Prolet  I never said I supported affirmative action. Stating merit isn't objective means...it isn't objective. Merit is not and cannot be objectively analyzed because the specific circumstances of success differ from person to person. I'm not shaming people for having talent and persistence, I'm shaming the people who believe everyone everywhere simply needs effort alone to succeed.
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  9401.  Krause Ist Prolet  Luck is real. Luck refers to the environmental factors(beyond your control) that affects one's successes or renders success possible, let alone probable, in the first place. Being born into fortunate circumstances, such as being born physically healthy, wealthy, well sheltered, well-loved, and well-educated, contribute to success more than any amount of effort any one person could ever possibly provide. Someone born in Ethiopia that dies from a blood disease is not growing up to become a doctor or president even if the person was as smart as Albert Einstein. Billions of people on this planet lack at least one of the characteristics I mentioned.
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  9402. That's messed up
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  9403. I'm sad
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  9404. Gotta do it because worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once.
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  9405.  @maylani3697  yep.
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  9406. Minimum wage jobs are dead and then give you no skills. Have you seen the cost of college? You can't pay that working minimum wage and there aren't enough scholarships to go around to pay for college either. Not everyone can be promoted to attain higher responsibility.
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  9407. ​ @peterroberts4415  Community colleges are $18000. That's not cheap either.
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  9408. ​@Peter Roberts Unless college was $200 of semester like it was in the 1970s you are not paying for college out of pocket working minimum wage.
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  9409.  @Saberwolves84  No they do understand that's not the reason they oppose raising the minimum wage
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  9410.  @Saberwolves84  The reason they oppose a living wage is because republicans believe minimum wage workers don't deserve to make all that money
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  9411. Fox news propaganda network. Fox news wants everything to be pro business and pro wage slavery. I'm glad you read "Herbert gans functions of poverty." What did you think of it?
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  9412.  @stonecrow00  if people were paid based on productivity and not skill people would make far above a living wage. Considering Chick-fil-A makes 4.5 to 5 million dollars a year it could pay its cashiers around $100,000 a year.
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  9413.  @stonecrow00  what these conservatives also don't tell you is why these jobs are minimum wage. Fast-food and Retail companies Outsourced middle-class manufacturing jobs and then replaced them with minimum-wage jobs in their stores. Furthermore by automating jobs by removing the skill out of them, the owners get more money on labor from lower priced labor. This automation led to an increase in output of goods, which increased profits, and the owners removed skill even further, creating a feedback loop.
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  9414.  @stonecrow00  i hope you mean some pay multiplier/ratio. LIke have the maximum wage be no more than six times the minimum wage. But the problem with that is CEOs would just have very low salaries but take large compensation in the form of stocks, which is what they do now.
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  9415. Be quiet.
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  9416. yep
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  9417. Minimum wage.
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  9418. Entry level employment is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature of gravity.
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  9419. ​ @lapinchechismosa exactly
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  9420. ​ @BladeValant546 thank you
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  9421. Inflation is the risk of giving workers more bargaining power.
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  9422.  @GPFaster1  which should end?
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  9423. Because he judges people by skills. Thus unskilled workers deserve poverty
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  9424. i wonder when Daily Show will pick a new host. @Tuturial464 
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  9425. Exactly
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  9426. I'm looking for a woman to take my virginity.
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  9427. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty.
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  9428. Because incels go a step further and rely on hatred and violence due to lack of sex.
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  9429. Yes
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  9430. One woman said she makes $95000 a month. Does she realize that eighty percent of americans don't even make that a year?
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  9431. Because poor people can't afford to be journalists.
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  9432. Your minimum wage is higher than even the USA?
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  9433. Ok
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  9434. Correct but Republicans don't see it that way.
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  9435. Just-world fallacy
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  9436.  @TheJesselopez1981  You cannot get money out of politics because it exists due to scarcity.
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  9437. Bill Maher won't do that
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  9438. Because it isn't about profits, but power and control. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  9439. Wow
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  9440. Wow.
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  9441. Yes poverty can end.
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  9442. You are correct.
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  9443. Wow
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  9444. That's disgusting.
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  9445. The real political problem is that a ubi would give workers too much power.
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  9446. I'll be a virgin incel forever.
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  9447. I'd need to make $17/hr for a living wage for a single person. $55/hr for a family of four.
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  9448. They don't learn any transferable skills,
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  9449.  @princea5886  oh okay.
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  9450. ​ @111Phoenix777 exactly
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  9451. I make $10.50/hour as a cashier. I use welfare .
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  9452. I'm too poor
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  9453. I'd like to finish community college but can't because it's too expensive.
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  9454. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs, only the poor and unskilled do. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills 😊
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  9455. That's obvious....
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  9456. Exactly
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  9457. If the radiation passed Through the Wormhole, then nothing would happen since its internal geometry is unwarped. But if the radiation encountered the energy densities of the Wormhole itself, then the radiation would either get blue shifted or red shifted as well as lensed. Although it depends on how exotic matter behaves(if it had negative inertial mass all sorts of crazy things would happen).
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  9458.  @scottmanley  are my answers bad.
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  9459.  @scottmanley  also how would exotic matter even be created?
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  9460. The pandemic revealed the truth of our political values. We deem rising worker power, not continued poverty, as the risk we refuse to accept.
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  9461. The rich feel entitled to money and decision making.
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  9462. Ezra klein
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  9463. Ok
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  9464. Because the point of welfare is NOT to lift people out of poverty.
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  9465. If welfare programs could lift people out of poverty then poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  9466. ​@Rene McQuick yep.
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  9467. Why do they think that?
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  9468. Because many people believe poor people don't deserve government assistance.
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  9469. Calvinism.
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  9470. If you're rich you deserve money and decision making power, if you're poor you don't. That's what our government believes.
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  9471. Because conservatives believe in just-world fallacy. They believe anyone can become anything they want through effort alone. Either luck does not exist or it is not a contributing factor. Consequently, if you are born poor it isn't your fault but if you die poor it is. Helping the poor become middle class or rich is rewarding failure in conservative people's eyes and that is anathema to them.
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  9472. No Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  9473. Ok
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  9474. ​ @mE-zx7pt that's not the reason work requirements exist. It's a consequence of work requirements, but it is not the goal.
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  9475. I know. If I make above $20k I lose medicaid
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  9476. What if you speak to women normally and still can't get laid?
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  9477. Other day on tinder i say this "I like the game mass effect legendary edition. I like to read comics about thor and iron man. My goal is to one day become an astrophysics professor. I hope to accomplish publishing my own book about the science of Iron Man at some point in my life. I currently like to do read science textbooks during my free time. What about you, what are your passions?" She unmatched with me. On tinder i get 2-5 matches every couple of months, most women either say nothing or say 1 or 2 words and never speak again. It's like that for...the past 5 years of me using tinder. In person i ask about woman's interests or crack jokes...they don't work either. Hence why I'm a kissless virgin at 27.
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  9478.  @hydara.r.7003  exactly.
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  9479. It IS a threat to the ruling class. More people being educated means less workers willing to accept minimum wage jobs and worker exploitation.
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  9480. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  9481. Wtf
    1
  9482. ​ @gocrazy432 lol
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  9483. Yep
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  9484. Or the government could do a simple cost-of-living adjustment......
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  9485. Correct.
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  9486. Yep.
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  9487.  @snoglydox  5.35 is not enough to afford living expenses now.. .
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  9488. @Snoglydox  are you really criticizing people for wanting a cell phone, in this day and age, while corporations make trillions in profits? You also need access to health care, education, and a viable form of transportation. You can't buy a car working minimum wage either. You wouldn't have needed to work 3 jobs if people had livable wages.
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  9489. @Snoglydox  you need a cell phone. Unless you think people communicate through telepathy. Neither healthcare nor education are free. Bicycling is not feasible for large cities like mine. The point is you shouldn't have had to work that hard to make enough to live. Noone should have to do that.
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  9490. @Snoglydox  working three low wage jobs doesn't increase the amount of money you make per hour, or give you benefits, or affordable college.
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  9491.  @snoglydox  three low wage jobs at 8 hours per shift is 24 hours a day. You're arguing for me to work myself dead.
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  9492. @Snoglydox  last spring, I was doing 3 different classes at 2 different colleges at once, working as a cashier, being an intern, volunteering, and helping take care of my family. I was literally working twenty-four hours a day and still in poverty.
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  9493. @Cassady  if people had living wages, then the working poor would not exist.
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  9494.  @cassady7169  I don't believe someone deserves poverty because of some arbitrarily named "entry-level" job.
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  9495. @Cassady  the outcome of walmart workers gaining training does not obviate the need for supermarkets. You're acting like if all walmart workers got medical degrees, then nobody would visit supermarkets ever again. Many people work 40 hours a week and are still in poverty. Many people work past 40 and are still in poverty. The number of hours isn't the problem here. It's the base pay.
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  9496. @Cassady  no need to insult me. Because you're missing the point. I worked less than 40 hours because working 40 entitles me to benefits. Even if I had made $20/hr, I still would've been in poverty due to being denied health care. I worked 40 hours for a long time. At McDonald's, I worked 40 hours a week as a cashier for 3 years straight, yet I made so little I couldn't afford clothes. My wage never increased no matter how long I was employed there. Last semester, I did 3 classes at 2 different schools at once, worked as a cashier, was an intern, volunteered, and helped take care of my sick mom. But I was STILL in poverty. Why? Cashier job paid $10.50/hr, internship paid $900/semester, and I was taxed on top of that, and none of them offered health insurance. While in school, being skilled worker is impossible. It isn't possible to be power plant operator or nuclear engineer full-time, but also take 5 classes, both at once. Federal work study programs pay $12/hr at 20 hours a week. That's less than a walmart greeter.
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  9497.  @snoglydox  again, that is the fallacy of relative privation. Just because it could be worse does not mean it can't or shouldn't be better. If a police department catches 70% of criminals, but the police department catches 50%, the first pd isn't supposed to say "well, it could have been 50, so we don't need to try to reach 100%."
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  9498.  @snoglydox  i'm applying to scholarships now, and applying for journalism jobs(in radio/tv), and doing math-based research.
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  9499.  @snoglydox  family supports me temporarily.
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  9500.  @snoglydox  and...I should work harder so they don't have to support me. Life isn't easy, but I have to stop making excuses.
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  9501. Yep
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  9502.  @getasimbe  a marginal tax rate.
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  9503. ​ @donaldspaulding6973 exactly
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  9504. Yep. Fear mongering
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  9505.  @leochangesnames  exactly.
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  9506. Idk.
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  9507. I didn't think about that.
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  9508.  @paulbonilla1250  Correct, the 4 trillion given to the rich and corporations could've wiped out homelessness. Even worse, assuming the USA built homes for every five poor people in America(one home per average household), the usa could have singelhandely built enough homes for every poor person in the entire country for not even 3 trillion.
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  9509.  @rsine100  it's sad that this country is the richest in the world but has insuperable poverty.
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  9510.  @BurntheKremlin966  No i think it's bribery. The problem is our legal system does not. The line between the two is razor thin and IMHO are both terrible.
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  9511. these politicans believe the rich are "priceless" i.e. provide all of the financial value of society, and therefore deserve to receive everything of financial value: executive positions, decision making, money, etc. The poor are "worthless" and thus deserve nothing.
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  9512. Yep.
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  9513. Yep.
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  9514. Because corporations want poverty
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  9515. Wow.
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  9516. I'm 28 years old and my family still takes care of me financially. I have a job, bit as a cashier my pay is so low I'm broke and can't afford a prostitute.
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  9517.  @stephenbachman132  you're right. Being a cashier is a waste of time. Especially at 28.
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  9518.  @stephenbachman132  thank you. You're right I can't be so impatient. I was a Screenwriter for a while and even won a competition!
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  9519. Incorrect on both fronts.
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  9520. My standards for women are 0 and I'm a virgin at 28 years old.
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  9521.  @princessazulaofthefirenati5870  100%
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  9522.  @hanneskarlbom6644  thank you.
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  9523.  @princessazulaofthefirenati5870  this
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  9524.  @opedsk  ok
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  9525.  @liamsdad33  lol
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  9526.  @hyuxion  you already pay attention to him? Rich people already receive attention and support.
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  9527.  @hyuxion  you don't think being in poverty is wrong? You don't care about the voice of the poor?
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  9528.  @hyuxion  work hard? Suffering in poverty isn't enough to you? What makes you believe this? If you have to earn something, it isn't a right, but a privilege.
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  9529.  @hyuxion  I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country
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  9530.  @hyuxion  what does this mean? Yes. All tragedies are important. Or rather, poverty is intolerable to me. I know politicians don't care to end poverty, which is why they don't talk about it. I could run for office one day and talk about what matters to me.
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  9531.  @hyuxion  poverty and healthcare have everything to do with the country.
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  9532.  @shawyonsharifi3394  poor people DO have an impact on the economy. We do the jobs nobody would do if everyone was wealthy or skilled. We subsidize the lives of the affluent through our low wage, dead-end jobs. We create a variety of occupations that flourish because of poverty - from the police to social services. We guarantee the status of those who are not poor. Poverty serves several roles in society. And what's worse, people want poverty to persist for these exact reasons.
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  9533.  @shawyonsharifi3394  my replies are deleted.
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  9534.  @shawyonsharifi3394  poor people DO affect the economy. The biggest way we do is by filling jobs wealthy and skilled people would never do themselves.
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  9535.  @shawyonsharifi3394  i can't post replies anymore
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  9536.  @shawyonsharifi3394  poor people have an impact on the economy. You mentioned one- they fill dead-end minimum wage jobs nobody would do if everyone happened to be affluent.
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  9537. With no training program? No way to afford a college degree? No way to care for children or health care?
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  9538. exactly.
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  9539. I'm serious
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  9540. Yep
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  9541. Man.....
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  9542. It's $4.
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  9543. Yea
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  9544. Exactly.
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  9545. Then you believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money
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  9546.  @DDVVJJRR  it's a "handout" only when the government helps poor people, nice try.
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  9547. Yep
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  9548. Amazingly our country can send billions to other countries but can't provide free college or universal healthcare.
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  9549. Yep
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  9550. That's messed up
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  9551. Yes
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  9552.  @salildeshpande7  why not 0?
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  9553. Because I'm a virgin at 28.
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  9554. I'm lazy and scared, that's why I'm a kissless virgin.
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  9555. Because Trump wants to force poor people to work for slave wages
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  9556.  @addictionfree-n8w  yep. I don't know what to do.
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  9557.  @VickiPoupard  yep
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  9558. i want bill maher to interview poor people.
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  9559. That's sad.
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  9560. The rich want an under class.
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  9561. It's called survivorship bias.
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  9562. Right. Many people are against cashiers being well off
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  9563.  @agentchicken3577  i know i was making a point. Not everyone wants unskilled workers making decent wages.
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  9564. ​ @hidan407  exactly
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  9565. Exactly.
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  9566. $200k a year. Nancy Pelosi is worth over $200 million.
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  9567. That's the problem with a guaranteed income for the poor-it gives workers bargaining power. This is the REAL reason why there have never been robust welfare programs- because nobody would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
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  9568.  @julietfischer5056  exactly. Except this is about priorities. A. Republicans complain about poor people being on government assistance or immigration, but they actually want poor people to be at the beck and call of employers who will always pay dirt low wages without coercion, and who donate to Republican campaigns. B. Three reasons why republicans hate welfare: 1. they believe poor people are minorities and hate minorities receiving money. 2. poor people will refuse to work for slave wages if they receive government benefits 3. republicans are heartless
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  9569.  @julietfischer5056  it's about priorities, usa government has spent trillions on tax cuts, corporate subsidies, bank bailouts, wars, and covid aid. Politicans have the power to eliminate poverty. It is simply not among their priorities. This whole problem is ideological, not economic: politicans do not find poverty's existence unacceptable like they do rape.
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  9570.  @MarcillaSmith  why do people treat minimum wage workers with such disdain?
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  9571. ​ @l-b284 that's the point. To keep people in poverty
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  9572. Correct.
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  9573. Yes.
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  9574. Yep.
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  9575. Yes
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  9576. That's crazy he could do that.
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  9577. He has TWO mansions?
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  9578. Because there shouldn't be rich or poor people...
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  9579. Doesn't mean people must be equal
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  9580.  @samuelmerkel2888  my answer would be meaningless since a. People would disagree on the line And B. Some people believe inequality should be as wide as possible
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  9581.  @samuelmerkel2888  I'd say maximum wage no more than 6x the minimum. Noone is worth millions and millions of dollars.
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  9582.  @samuelmerkel2888  you realize that minimum wage is roughly 17k?(7.25 an hour full-time year round). Maybe if such a floor wasn't so low...then yes there could still be six and seven figure incomes.
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  9583.  @samuelmerkel2888  i say millions, yes(i agree with you on einstein). Not the millions and millions and millions...let alone billions like musk.. Make and/or are worth. Again(i know it's arbitrary) but a CEO making $2 million a year? I'm fine with that. But 30? 60? Some make over $400 million *per year*. That is insanity. Musk is successful, like all successful people are, not through skill alone. Success is due to a combination of luck, skill, and persistence. So yes, I'm acknowledging musk improved society and is skilled. But he relied on literally decades of scientific knowledge to access(aerospace/mechanical/electrical engineering. Nuclear chemistry. Materials science. To name a few) Plus patent protections for his products(a monopoly) Plus grants/subsidies/loans PLUS anti-merger laws that(at current level) allowed his businesses to grow to such an enormous scale.
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  9584.  @samuelmerkel2888  well for one the lowest wage sectors(retail. Restaurant and hospitality) would have to drastically alter their business model and/or collapse if it wishes to pay its C-levelers six or seven figures and maintain same profit margin. As far as if no businesses can survive such a wage hike... The poor(minimum wage) workers are(generally) paid based on skill not productivity/financial performance of the company(like CEOs). If MW WERE paid like that, they'd make way more. Places that make millions per store like Chic fil a would have cashiers making roughly $100,000 per year.
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  9585.  @samuelmerkel2888  I'll respond to future replies in one text. I hope you understand my points and that I'm NOT arguing for equal pay/communism. No way a janitor should make the same as a doctor.
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  9586. Politicians believe poor and disabled people deserve to either work for poverty wages or starve to death.
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  9587. ​ @Milaperadotti Republicans want welfare restricted in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  9588. ​ @idontwantahandlethough I got $161
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  9589. ​ @carlo_oppermann many Americans believe if you can't work then you have no value.
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  9590. ​ @carlo_oppermann many Americans hate welfare for poor and disabled people because they think they don't deserve help.
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  9591. Because people hate the poor to justify capitalism and meritocracy.
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  9592.  @nickelpickel3924  I hate fletch lol.
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  9593. Right.
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  9594. Us could do even better than that. Since us is global reserve currency then it could give out loans that could be forgiven to make all colleges free.
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  9595. I truly believe the free college debate is about values: rich people want there to be a caste system. And what's terrible is they'll get it no matter what. 1. The government has not passed tuition free community Colleges and universities 2. Even if the government did do this, that leaves out private schools and graduate schools. 3. This loan forgiveness also leaves out living expenses. 4. Scholarships and grants are not guaranteed for the poor and are rarely enough. 5. Scholarships CANNOT be enough. Since 140 million people are in poverty, there isn't enough scholarship money to give every poor person a full ride. 6. One student won $9 million of scholarships in my state, for that to be possible with $140 billion scholarship funds, there'd have to be 16,000 poor people nationwide.
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  9596. This is about values: rape is unacceptable, student loan debt is not.
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  9597.  @jackiehuff7736  because rich people receiving help is deserving.
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  9598. you're more upset over unemployment and inflation than the working poor.
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  9599. So you're more concerned about having cheap prices than workers having a living wage
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  9600.  @GoEqBro  inflation is an acceptable risk. It doesn't matter what something is meant to be, it matters what it is, and it is a career for milions of people.
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  9601.  @GoEqBro  not everyone is supported by their parents, can afford school, or wants to work part-time. You're arguing for poverty here.
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  9602. No...
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  9603. But how do you dismantle the two party system?
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  9604.  @shadowldrago  I don't know how to do such a thing either.
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  9605.  @trevinbeattie4888  okay
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  9606. To force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  9607. I hope I stop being incel.
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  9608.  @chachaguillotine187  still low.
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  9609. Survivorship bias.
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  9610. Nope
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  9611. Exactly
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  9612. No What you aren't seeing is rich people want poverty Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  9613. I'm here.
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  9614. He didn't want a hooker
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  9615.  @CaptainSaveAHoe18B  wouldn't be a problem if all jobs were middle or upper class. Poverty wages are not to blame on the poor but the system.
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  9616. I make $10.50/hr
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  9617. Lol. McDonald's caps its pay for managers at $9/hr. It gives out $0.25 raises every 6 months but stops after a while. If it paid based on experience some cashiers would be making 100k
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  9618. Yep
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  9619. It's because politicians believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  9620.  @spectrephantom607  it's corruption too.
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  9621.  @Laeknishendrr  you're a troll.
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  9622. Why?
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  9623. @mklolCoru  that's an economic reason not a moral one.
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  9624. Right.
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  9625. Exactly.
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  9626. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  9627. Desperation
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  9628. Because capitalism requires poverty. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty. The less money corporations have to pay workers, the more profits they have for themselves and the more money they can donate to politicians. If poor people aren't desperate, then this cuts into corporate profits. If livable wages exist, if welfare programs are robust, if unions are strong, if unemployment and homelessness are reduced, workers become pickier about being paid slave wages.
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  9629. I hope my reply didn't get deleted and you see it
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  9630. Correct.
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  9631.  @slactweak  i think usa is trash.
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  9632. Why?
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  9633. Ok
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  9634. Ok
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  9635. I lost my food stamps, am on Medicaid, and make $8.50/hr
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  9636.  @michaeltaylor8204  cashier at McDonald's. It's technically above the minimum wage of $7.25/hr, so it's legal.
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  9637. ​ @Saberwolves84  exactly
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  9638. Lol
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  9639. ​ @tmbarton1961 thank you.
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  9640. Dang.
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  9641. Fox news exists to demean poor people and praise business owners. Fox news will NEVER interview a cashier about the minimum wage.
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  9642. The reason conservatives want to privatize everything is because the goal to push poor people out of social mobility and squeeze the middle class
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  9643. Yep
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  9644. Correct.
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  9645. Yes. Per month.
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  9646. Ok
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  9647. Wtf. 400k?
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  9648. I'm poor. On medicaid
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  9649. Wow
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  9650. You're joking, right?
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  9651. I'm a virgin at 28. I've never kissed or dated either. I guess I'm not trying hard enough.
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  9652. McDonald's and Chick-fil-A make enough to pay their cashiers $100,000 a year.
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  9653. Reading this as an incel myself made me cry
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  9654.  @meowmachine9147  no.
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  9655.  @meowmachine9147  okay
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  9656. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. The real reason we don't have robust social welfare programs is because it would give workers too much power.
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  9657. The truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  9658. Wow.
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  9659. Exactly.
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  9660. Yes
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  9661. We agree!
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  9662. ​ @anncata7368 EXACTLY.
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  9663. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
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  9664.  @joshuawoolridge8378  thank you
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  9665.  @Bryer106  yep
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  9666. LOL.
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  9667.  @Robin-qc4kp  you're right. All I've done is sit at home and feel sorry for myself. I'm poor and sit at home. I blamed women for me being a virgin.
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  9668.  @Robin-qc4kp  it isn't women's fault I'm a virgin
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  9669. That's the business fault.
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  9670. ​ @protoroc  LOL.
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  9671. Business leaders would not work for the wages that they're offering.
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  9672. That sucks. No country has high minimum wage
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  9673. ​ @PrinceoftheVioletFlame  I'm an incel. That hurt my feelings.
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  9674. Immigrants are not the problem
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  9675. Correct.
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  9676. Entry level jobs are dead end.
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  9677. ​@bleed3tte245 I've used tinder for years to no avail. Although it's my fault I don't go out often and i do not socialize with women either .
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  9678. If I don't lose my virginity soon..
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  9679. The poor people campaign estimates the number of people in poverty at around 140 million.
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  9680. Why do you act like McDonald's workers are rapists?
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  9681. If you're working 40 hours a week you're contributing to society.
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  9682. Exactly.
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  9683.  @fomori2  I agree. These people are disconnected from...poverty...inflation...hunger...
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  9684. That's disgusting.
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  9685. i do not understand why people treat mcdonald's workers worse than rapists.
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  9686. It seems our government wants poverty.
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  9687. It isn't supposed to Work requirements exist to coerce poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  9688. Ok
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  9689. Yes
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  9690. Exactly
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  9691. aprilmustjune really?
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  9692. I'd be fine paying for it.
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  9693. Republicans believe disabled people don't have value
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  9694. Lol
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  9695. I Agree with you
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  9696.  @reddragoninuyasha  LOL.
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  9697. Yes.
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  9698. Because NAFTA outsourced well paying industrial jobs and replaced them with minimum wage service jobs.
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  9699. Sounds good
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  9700. It's called just-world fallacy
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  9701.  @jackmoore337  exactly.
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  9702. That isn't the real political problem.
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  9703. Jesus Christ
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  9704. Wow
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  9705. The work requirements exist to force more people into minimum wage jobs.
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  9706. They hate disabled people more than poor people.
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  9707. Exactly
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  9708. 15 is so low
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  9709. ​ @Abcq755  exactly.
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  9710. That's disgusting.
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  9711. Wow
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  9712. @savegraysoncats  Both of those things are messed up and true. Since I have no skills or money, I am in no position to contest the power of a corporation. After all, what doctor or billionaire would work minimum wage?
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  9713.  @Zero-z1m9y  yes. Screw North Carolina government. Republicans side with corporations.
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  9714.  @18booma  right.
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  9715.  @garyindiana2127  that's messed up. And why don't politicians pass a law mandating benefits day one?
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  9716.  @darkstar4494  45
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  9717.  @darkstar4494  sounds good.
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  9718.  @darkstar4494  Why not 0?
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  9719. That's depressing.
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  9720. Ok
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  9721. Acceptable risks
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  9722.  @JayValmire  there is no free market in a country such as USA. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs. Only the poor and unskilled do. This debate over the minimum wage is about how far are we as a country willing to go to help the poor. If poverty was truly intolerable to Americans like rape or murder, then any price, any amount of inflation or unemployment or tax hikes would be prices we would be willing to pay to change the situation of the impoverished.
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  9723. Conservatives believe in the myth of meritocracy.
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  9724. Fox news hates policies which reduce poverty: living wage, Medicare for all, free college, strong unions, affordable housing.
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  9725. Benjamin Nentanyu is a war criminal.
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  9726. Because it's really the other way around, the rich are a burden on the poor.
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  9727. Won't happen
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  9728. That's messed up
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  9729. Herbert gans
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  9730. Money going to the rich makes conservatives happy. money going to the poor makes them sad.
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  9731. Ok
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  9732. Conservatives hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty.
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  9733. That's fucked up. I'm in NC. I had private insurance until Medicaid was expanded. I'm thankful there are no work requirements in my state, or I would lose Medicaid, my medicine ($739 a month), and the ability to do school work. Unfortunately, those same work requirements DO exist for food stamps, and being a student isn't qualified as work, so I lost food stamps and rely on my dad
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  9734. Corporations want healthcare restricted for poor people because they want cheap labor. Politicians want poor people to accept minimum wage jobs.
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  9735. That's depressing.
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  9736. ​ @Leafhurr1cane  okay.
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  9737.  @Leafhurr1cane  yep.
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  9738. ​ @TheOneNeo390 minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills
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  9739.  @Dysfunctional_VintageGirl  because the government wants poor people to work for slave wages to make corporations richer. And disabled people to die off because the government views disabled people as a burden.
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  9740.  @Dysfunctional_VintageGirl  my replies are deleted Basically government wants poor people to be slaves and disabled people to be killed off
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  9741. K
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  9742.  @theantagonist631  that's messed up.
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  9743. It exists to perpetuate poverty
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  9744. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  9745. That's messed up.
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  9746. That's wrong
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  9747. That's another issue too.
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  9748. Because there aren't enough stem jobs available for those who want to enter academia.
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  9749. What did he mean by that?
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  9750.  @chancecooper9246  he meant he'd get orally and anally raped.
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  9751. There are already bread lines.
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  9752. There was a show similar to that in the UK. It's called "rich house. Poor house." That does not truly teach rich people about the pain of poverty because they know they can escape it.
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  9753. Gun control failing also implies the government lacks the power to solve crime on its own.
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  9754. I'm incel
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  9755. And miserable
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  9756. Ok
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  9757.  @MsRuneGirl  I'm incel and you're partially correct.
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  9758.  @MsRuneGirl  I can't see my replies. Damn YouTube
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  9759. Yes. That's obvious....
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  9760. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
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  9761. Yep.
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  9762. A minimum wage worker is a regular worker...
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  9763. ​ @Galilelo_Telescope read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  9764. Because conservatives don't believe unskilled workers deserve to be middle class or rich.
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  9765.  @TR-mm1qg  lol
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  9766. Last spring I was taking 3 different classes at two different colleges once, working as a cashier at a supermarket, being an intern, volunteering, helping take care of my mom all at once. Not only was I poor, I didn't qualify for or receive health insurance or food stamps. Now, I have no welfare still, despite making $60/week.
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  9767. ​ @chaddubois8164 terrible.
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  9768. Just like how POTUS, who has 24/7 armed security, wants to ban assault rifles.
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  9769. I'm broke, plus you can't pay someone to like you. I'm still incel paying for sex.
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  9770.  @FoldedCloak  like $300-$500
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  9771.  @FoldedCloak  per session
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  9772.  @FoldedCloak  Yes prostitution is illegal. Yes, strippers sleep with customers illegally all the time. I'm too scared to risk my freedom over getting laid.
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  9773.  @FoldedCloak  wait, is prostitution legal in Australia?
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  9774. I'm still poor and a virgin now, I'm 30 years old.
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  9775. There you go.
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  9776. ​ @Delimon007 exactly.
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  9777. Yep.
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  9778. ​ @jusone4271 I'm here😊
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  9779. ​@HappyHeart12345Poor people make up 43% of the population. How can we be half of the country but have no voice?
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  9780. ​​ @jusone4271 say what you said on my channel. I can't see your replies.
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  9781. Thank you. I'm in extreme poverty. I want an Associate of science, bachelor's of science, bachelor's of arts major in communication, and PhD in astrophysics. But my top goal is fixing my health, then escaping poverty, then I'll return to school I've decided I'm not going to work minimum wage jobs anymore, and I'll apply like crazy to scholarships and grants. I have a 1.2 GPA so I hope people understand my context. If I won a $420,000 scholarship like that Hanoi woman, I'd be fine. Ideally, I'd fix my health, get into shape, learn how to manage expenses, buy BCBS Health insurance, then car, and move out eventually. Then once I'm stable several months after that, return to school full-time.
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  9782. It's funny you mention that because that's $32,000 a year...about equal to the $15/hr minimum wage.
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  9783.  @angelabarnes7588  you're right. I don't know how Republicans think.
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  9784. that makes me angry.
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  9785.  @martman1466  that's disgusting the walton family can afford that
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  9786. No. Poor people have no reason to live. It sucks
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  9787. Ok
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  9788. The point is about control.
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  9789. Look up family assistance plan under Richard Nixon. When Republicans want work requirements, what they mean by this is that the government grant of Medicaid pays more than minimum wage jobs, thus Republicans want to force poor people to accept slave wages(crappy wages).
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  9790. Yep
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  9791. It is too low. But, that's the point.
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  9792. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  9793. An Ohio pizza shop owner did that for one day, his workers made $78/hr.
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  9794.  @machsimillian14  he only did it for one day. But imagine pizza workers making that much. How would you feel if pizza hut workers made that much?
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  9795. @machsimillian14  Exactly. I'd be happy for them too! I'm good at political analysis, so I'll tell you the EXACT reasons people disparage minimum wage workers. 1. Conservatives believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors wanted to make fifteen dollars an hour, the same conservatives that oppose a $15 minimum wage now would pass an $80/hr minimum wage then. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status. 2. This is because conservatives believe in just-world fallacy. This is the mistaken belief that hard work can overcome any obstacles, that society is perfect. 3. This, in turn, means conservatives assign value to people based on how hard they work. If you aren't willing or capable of working hard or at all, then you have no value. 4. Poor people are not willing to work, so they're failures. Disabled people are unable to work, so they're failures, too. (In a conservatives eyes, not mine). 5. This fuels their entire world view. They support corporate subsides but oppose welfare for the poor, even though the former eclipses the latter because of just-world fallacy. In republicans eyes, rich people and business owners have "succeeded " in the "system that works," so they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. Where as poor people have failed, so any government help is "undeserving." Tldr. Helping the rich rewards success, helping the poor rewards failure.
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  9796. @machsimillian14  Also, like you said, most Americans hate poor people so much that this hatred blinds them to the real problem: greedy corporations. Poor people are hated since there is Noone who stands up for them. There is not a single poor person in Congress, a single poor Governor, not a single poor judge, and obviously billionaires (who lobby) aren't poor either. And news media companies are owned by billionaires as well. It's why, despite there being 140 million poor people, such as myself (usa is 330 million ), poor people don't run for office.
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  9797. @machsimillian14  I used to be a cashier at a supermarket. I made $10/hr, I was given a $0.50 raise. I was also kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits like health care. I got covid while employed there, but without health insurance or paid sick leave (from being kept part-time), I had to rely on my mother for help.
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  9798. He failed to mention college was probably $500/year then too
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  9799. Lol I don't recall Anna asking for everyone to make the same.
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  9800. You are supporting the fallacy of relative privation
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  9801. Stop shaming poor people
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  9802.  @TomSmith-kc8mz  because?
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  9803. Yep.
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  9804. Because he believes poor women don't deserve to have children
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  9805. I'm trying to fix my life.
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  9806. Handout is a moral term used to imply poor people don't deserve government assistance
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  9807. Your mindset is the problem. Help low wage workers rise up, not kick them down.
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  9808. $42/hr based on inflation. $61 based on gdp
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  9809.  @peterbalholm2138  that's " middle class" to millionaires.
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  9810. ​ @mookiestewart3776  fallacy of relative privation
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  9811. She collected them all, stole them from other students.
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  9812. Republicans want workers to be in poverty. Because without poverty or the threat of it, workers have bargaining power.
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  9813. Because the point is to screw over poor people, such as myself. Republicans hate welfare because 1. They oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  9814. Point 2: I could contest corporate power with a GMI
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  9815. ​ @acadiansm lol
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  9816. ​ @GrantPearson the problem with UBI is it empowers poor people. Look up family assistance plan.
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  9817.  @Kuristofa99  inflation is an acceptable risk.
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  9818. ​ @emmahilburn1732 yep
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  9819. He believes poor people don't deserve government assistance. He's willing to pay more to see poor people suffer​ @emmahilburn1732 
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  9820. That's crazy
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  9821. ​​ @par3me ok
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  9822. What?
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  9823. I'm happy for him. I'm an incel.
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  9824. I cried reading this
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  9825. I agree with you. I need to leave my house and meet women
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  9826. Because it empowers poor people.
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  9827. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Try again.
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  9828. That's evil
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  9829. My replies are gone​ @noseraph 
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  9830.  @noseraph  I can't view my replies. Screw youtube
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  9831. Yeah, it hasn't helped me.
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  9832. I'm 29 and a freaking virgin
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  9833. Yep.
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  9834. You don't have the right to tell others how much money they deserve to make
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  9835.  @Openeyesopenheart42  I don't have any right to decide for them either. They have that right themselves. It is their choice and their choice alone.
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  9836. Thread from Reddit: The original post was "What's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor?" The most liked comment was "Receiving money from the government."
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  9837.  @marlonbryanmunoznunez3179  yep
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  9838. Exactly.
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  9839. Sometimes $200
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  9840.  @tedskins  basically there's no price control set by the federal government.
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  9841. They could pay their workers $100,000 a year.
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  9842. Amazing presentation. I'm not an incel anymore.
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  9843. Yep.
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  9844. And rich people in charge of public policy.
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  9845. Correct. Employees are paid based on what they can negotiate
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  9846. Lolol that's depressing
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  9847. @holdmybeer123  the problem is greedy corporations
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  9848. @holdmybeer123  penalize corporations for being greedy
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  9849. Beautifully said.
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  9850. Jesus christ.
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  9851. $540k. How the fuck are people making that much when most jobs don't pay 60k a year.
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  9852.  @oliviastratton2169  wow.
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  9853. Ok
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  9854. Then USA is trash
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  9855. Because flipping burgers isn't stressful? And you aren't paid based on stress level anyway.
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  9856. Correct.
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  9857. Just world fallacy Buddy. Keep dreaming.
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  9858. There's massive unemployment now and war has never been eradicated in human history.
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  9859.  @ChopperChad  in some respects they did. But nobody's life is perfect.
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  9860. Yes
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  9861. Because middle class people vote. And poor people don't.
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  9862. Oh wow
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  9863. Correct.
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  9864. Chic Fil A cashiers could make $100,000/yr.
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  9865. the point is times have changed and so it is time to change our values. I don't understand why this is even a debate. I can't believe i have to put up with people shaming poor people, as if making $10.50/hr isn't a slave wage, rather than shaming corporations for wanting to depress wages of millions of people. minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. @JE-western-rider 
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  9866. corporations want illegal immigrants because they desire the labor forces who will work very hard for very low rates of pay. @JE-western-rider 
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  9867. ​ @ralphgreenjr.2466 not everyone can be manager.
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  9868. @ltmdf117  gaining skills is not something everyone can do. You believe in just-world fallacy
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  9869.  @RowdyRowdy55  the real opposition to a living wage is about morals: many people hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty.
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  9870.  @youtubesucks1499  entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone can obtain skills. Poverty isn't acceptable because someone works an "entry-level " job.
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  9871.  @youtubesucks1499  a cashier job does not increase your level of education or responsibility no matter how long someone is employed there.
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  9872. @youtubesucks1499  you believe in just-world fallacy if you think hard work leads to a living wage job for everyone, and if you think anyone loves poverty in the first place.
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  9873. @youtubesucks1499  and this a moral issue to you, you think it's your right to shame poor people.
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  9874. @youtubesucks1499  again, you believe in just-world fallacy if you think everyone can obtain a living wage job.
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  9875. @youtubesucks1499  you literally admit the job is dead-end. You cannot gain skills from a dead-end job.
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  9876. @youtubesucks1499  poverty is not a personal choice, it's a policy choice supported by people like you who think minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
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  9877. @youtubesucks1499  Okay, let's look at this: 1. Not everyone can go to college. For starters, it's extremely expensive 2. There are not enough trade jobs for everyone 3. Not everyone can work full-time due to a lack of affordable child care, healthcare, and other problems. 4. Not everyone can work at all
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  9878.  @Terrackhimself  even supporting a family isn't ridiculous.
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  9879.  @youtubesucks1499    I'm pursuing a physics degree now. While in school, I'm poor and self supporting student. I want scholarships and grants to continue my education, but I have to work for those. I'm very poor now. Don't tell me you think it's acceptable. I have to be on food stamps and medicaid, and even more welfare, without scholarships, while I'm pursuing school.
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  9880. @youtubesucks1499  I guess my comment got deleted. Maybe don't punch down on workers making literal pennies. How about getting upset at corporations who refuse to pay more for American labor. When corporations cry that they want more money, they're supported by conservatives like it is their God-given right, but when poor people demand the same, they're lazy and entitled.
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  9881.  @youtubesucks1499  why can't getting this degree be easy for me? Why do I have suffer more than others who want the same?
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  9882. @youtubesucks1499  1. Because not everyone can increase their skills. 2. Or, more fundamentally, judging people by the skills an employer is willing to exploit, is a horrible way to treat human beings. 3. I can't believe I have to suffer in poverty, in order to earn scholarships and grants to finish my degree. Something I'd have to do anyway, even if all schools were tuition free. 4. I cry for how badly I want this degree, but I'm facing one roadblock after the other to get it. 5. I don't understand why people can support things like voting, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc. But get upset over a living wage, welfare, or healthcare access. It isn't truly about money, because constitutional rights themselves aren't affected by the gaining or losing of money. I.e., my pay raise doesn't mean I can decide the religion of others.
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  9883. You're a troll​ @youtubesucks1499 
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  9884.  @bahhumbug2072  he believes minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
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  9885.  @bahhumbug2072  exactly
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  9886.  @rickmerritt128  the core problem is that corporations do not want to help their workers out of poverty.
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  9887.  @rickmerritt128  but yes, in theory.
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  9888.  @rickmerritt128  I know. But that's a choice.
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  9889. Exactly to your last sentence. It's because it's just world fallacy. Conservatives believe poor people Haven't worked hard enough to escape poverty, and thus don't deserve government aid. Where as rich people have succeeded in the system that works, so they deserve to get bailed out due to their success.
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  9890. He supports poverty
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  9891. Hypocrisy at its finest
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  9892. Because conservatives want poverty
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  9893. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  9894. Trade schools can put you in debt.
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  9895. Wow
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  9896. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. This is the REAL reasons republicans hate welfare.
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  9897. Poverty is a policy choice. Politicians can end poverty. However, it's not among their priorities.
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  9898. Yes
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  9899. I'm a kissless virgin because I'm socially inept and a loser. I'm handsome
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  9900. I've never kissed or dated
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  9901. War is a racket.
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  9902. A hooker doesn't offer genuine affection. I'm a virgin at 28. Using a hooker doesn't solve the problem of me not being able to attract women.
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  9903. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
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  9904.  @angelaschone2847  because I am socially inept. I'm also a loser but plenty of men who are losers get laid.
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  9905.  @angelaschone2847  I feel like it's my fault I'm a virgin. I look in the mirror and I see a child, not a man. At 28 years old, I lack a College degree/career/training certification. I also lack a driver's license / car / apartment. I'm poor/socially isolated.
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  9906.  @angelaschone2847  I was lazy in my younger years so I lost flunked out of community college, stayed a cashier for 7 years, and now here I am. I'm back in community college and I'm an intern and cashier.
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  9907.  @angelaschone2847  USA. I mean I just...I can't pick on sarcasm or joke around often with women. All of my friends are men.
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  9908.  @angelaschone2847  I'm a college student, cashier, and 2nd semester intern and I help take care of my family. I'm striving towards independence and getting my Associate's degree.
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  9909.  @angelaschone2847  and doing an internship and working, yes.
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  9910. ​@Angela schöne hello. Sorry for the late response. I'm me in my youtube channel. In intelligent, handsome, and ambitious. I'm currently unemployed and broke. Idk how to lose my virginity. Yes, in the 3 months since we've last talked I'm still a kissless virgin.
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  9911. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  9912. ​ @emfi-777 that's crazy
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  9913. Of course. That's why Republicans hate welfare.
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  9914.  @chadcoffman1870  agreed but how?
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  9915.  @chadcoffman1870  my replies are gone
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  9916.  @ld3511  okay. I'll get involved in politics one day
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  9917.  @icey8475  I wish that was the case here. But only billionaires can run for POTUS independently. Ross perrot was worth $4.3 billion. Michael Bloomberg is worth $100 billion. Donald Trump is worth $7 billion. Truthfully, I'm giving excuses. If I truly wanted to enter politics, I would. I'm not ready yet, I need to accomplish some things in life first(PhD in astrophysics), journalism career.
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  9918.  @icey8475  that would help poor people run.
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  9919. It empowers poor people
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  9920. Yep
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  9921. Yep
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  9922. So poor people live right next to him and he lets them be poor?
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  9923. Because most incels are poor. Like myself.
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  9924.  @Madchad6969  okay
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  9925. ​ @onlyhereformusic2911  yes. I want to have sex more than anything.
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  9926. Yes
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  9927. Exactly.
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  9928. You can't force poor people to not have children.
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  9929. Corporations stand to lose from any policy which ends all poverty wages, since they'd no longer have workers to exploit( If even interns were paid a living wage workers wouldn't have to work their way up to anywhere to have a living) and their goods/services would be more expensive.
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  9930.  @tulanzuya  that made me angry
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  9931.  @tulanzuya  yep.
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  9932. McDonald's can pay that, it's called profit sharing.
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  9933. You're wrong. You misunderstand republicans. The reason Republicans oppose a living wage minimum wage is because they believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. No one cares about a doctor making $78 per hour but a pizza worker making it is a rapist.
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  9934. The problem is it helps reduce poverty which fox opposes.
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  9935. Your country doesn't function on poverty like USA does
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  9936. That sucks.
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  9937. It's already been calculated.
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  9938. No.
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  9939.  @winstonjen5360  poverty is the lack of resources relative to needs. It is not "reducing the birth rate."
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  9940.  @winstonjen5360  correlation does not equal causation.
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  9941.  @winstonjen5360  that in no way is why poverty exists.
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  9942.  @winstonjen5360  guaranteed income
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  9943. Except many Republicans oppose a living wage because it's unearned money provided to poor people.
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  9944. ​ @ericpmoss exactly.
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  9945. Correct.
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  9946. North Carolina general Assembly won't raise the minimum wage, denied Medicaid expansion for too long, didn't pass corporate tax increases that would've made community college free, and won't penalize corporations for using illegal immigrants, and it's too expensive to run for office and stay in office. My former city mayor made $17,000/year but was worth $76.3 million. I make $10.50/hour.
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  9947.  @bodaciouscowboy  okay. I do have a voice in society.
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  9948. I agree.
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  9949. They don't. Ever heard of income tax credit?
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  9950. Your minimum wage point is an excellent one. I have a theory as to why conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage. It is not because it costs businesses "too much" but because it makes meritocracy a lie. If raising the minimum wage really would lift tens of millions of people out of poverty that is admitting that poverty is a systemic problem, that effort alone is not and cannot be enough to succeed/escape poverty, in essence that means effort doesn't matter. On the other hand telling people to simply work harder or accept the way society is shifting the blame to the individual.
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  9951. Correct.
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  9952. Because they're calvinists
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  9953. Only rich people can pay for college without a loan, unless you think people are voluntarily poor.
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  9954.  @patrickbooth5091  I'm fine with forgiving consumer debt. So yes. I'm fine with auto loan forgiveness.
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  9955.  @patrickbooth5091  Don't we all pay taxes? It's just us getting our tax money back and deciding what to spend it on.
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  9956.  @patrickbooth5091  taxes cover the cost
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  9957. @Patrick Booth  what? I'm saying that since I pay taxes, I want my taxes to support things I like: college. Car debt forgiveness. A government that backs unions. Etc.
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  9958. @Patrick Booth  A few things. 1st off you, you don't need a new car every single month. you need one home and 1 car, unless you have kids or something. So maybe forgive used car loan debt for every American household to have 1 used car or 2. 2) The government already takes care of you. It(via our taxes) funds police, prisons, schools, hospitals, and the military. Why are you acting like the government doesn't do anything?
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  9959. @Patrick Booth  not really. I don't want anyone taking out loans for basic necessities. If you desire food, it's wrong to rely on loans or food stamps. Really debt is just welfare in a different way.
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  9960. Yep
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  9961. They don't
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  9962. Yep.
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  9963.  @JohnAC4  too bad that doesn't justify poverty.
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  9964. Wow
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  9965. ROFL
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  9966. Politicians prefer workers in poverty, vs having bargaining power for higher wages.
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  9967. Okay.
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  9968. ​@FreedomStrike76 you need a power source for that.
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  9969. That's messed up.
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  9970. @u04R most capitalists support meritocracy.
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  9971. @u04R what I'm saying Is A. People think poverty is an individual problem B. Moral failing C. Economic failing because the person "has no skills."
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  9972.  @Nerdy_Nihilist  exactly.
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  9973.  @phukyu9016  it's revenue was over $120 billion...
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  9974. I love it.
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  9975. Minimum salary should be $80,000.
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  9976. I wonder why that law hasn't been changed.
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  9977.  @judgegixxer  trillions...given to the banks....
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  9978. Lol ok
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  9979. Yep. I'm there
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  9980.  @quinnoshaughnessy  smh I'm a male virgin/ incel.
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  9981. Except the overall minimum wage increase was axed by Newsom.
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  9982. The government can do that. There are eligibility requirements for universities to be able to receive federal loans. The eligibility can be changed to where universities are forced to charge tuition that's a narrow band around the median price.
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  9983. I am happy for you, but I was absolutely disgusted at that one woman saying she made $95,000 a month selling underwear. Does she have any idea the amount of actual work it takes to make a million dollars a year like that. Outside of social media or only fans, she probably hasn't done any job that hard. Even the average salary for a heart surgeon isn't as high as what she makes. And I know she isn't a doctor.
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  9984. @Audit 1000  I'm poor myself. I've decided to quit my minimum wage job and finish college as well as try to forge a career as a journalist. I've never had making a million dollars a year on my mind, and I never want to date a woman who's only concerned with that anyway. BTW I consider myself incel.
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  9985. No
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  9986. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  9987. Wow
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  9988. You're missing something: the real reason conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage is because of morals: their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities, entitle them to earn. They believe minimum wage workers don't deserve to make a living wage. It's giving them something they haven't earned. If doctors demanded $15/hr conservatives would pass an $80/hr then.
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  9989. Exactly. It's the rich telling the poor they make too much.
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  9990. Even trekkies get laid.
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  9991. I'll have that conversation with you right now. Corporations. Rich people. Conservatives. The bottom line is that these groups of people don't want to eradicate poverty. It's not like a universal desire like women's suffrage. This is ultimately about our values and priorities. Corporations are more concerned with fighting against rising worker power( living wage, collective bargaining) than against poverty. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. Doctors can refuse to work for poverty wages. Cashiers can't. Not on their own. This power differential is a policy choice because unions alone prove it.
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  9992. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because because if poverty did not exist, workers would reject dead-end job offers. No one would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with 0 benefits or chance for advancement. No one would ever accept the below cost of living wages and no affordable health care.
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  9993. Corporations prioritize eradicating worker solidarity over eradicating poverty of their workforce. That shows right there they don't care about eradicating poverty. Politicians have spent trillions of dollars on tax cuts for the rich, corporate subsidies, the military industrial complex, and endless wars. They have the power to eliminate poverty. It is not among their priorities either.
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  9994. Medicaid sucks
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  9995. Because a hooker doesn't offer genuine affection. And Elliot wanted power, not sex.
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  9996. True.
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  9997. The program was a success, because that IS the point of welfare- to ensure poor people don't receive too little help as to die, but not too much help as to rise to the middle class.
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  9998. When Bezos goes to hell he'll be an amazon stocker making minimum wage. He'll have to make his wealth he has now making minimum wage while relying on food stamps and Medicaid.
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  9999. There's also no job loyalty anymore.
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  10000. All sounds good to me.
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  10001. Poverty....
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  10002. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty. Rich people want poverty to persist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs and do the dirty work of society. Also, police would be miniscule without the poor.
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  10003. Poor people are full-time workers or disabled.
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  10004. I'm on Medicaid while at community college. I get any medical services I want, but most doctors don't take medicaid
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  10005. Ok
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  10006. I'll change
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  10007. ​ @jaybee9269 ok
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  10008. Yep
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  10009. ​@justin johnson he's an other wallet warrior. He believes minimum wage workers don't deserve to make a living wage.
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  10010. ​ @gardenswithsoul  yep.
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  10011. Sounds like you're not willing to pay the price to help students out
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  10012. Herbert Gans, functions of poverty
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  10013. Corporations are the problem
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  10014. Correct but republicans prefer poverty to exist versus workers having more power.
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  10015. Yep.
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  10016. PREACH.
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  10017. There aren't plenty of good paying jobs out there like you claim. It's a policy choice, not a universal law of nature of gravity, to proliferate poverty wages.
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  10018. Except that's PRECISELY why a ubi won't be implemented- because NOBODY would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement
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  10019. Gotta keep people desperate for slave wages.
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  10020. Because it's about priorities. It's about what we value the most. Our government doesn't deem poverty unacceptable.
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  10021. ​@Me04120 republicans hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. That's why welfare isn't robust.
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  10022. I cried reading that.
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  10023. People who support meritocracy believe in just world fallacy. I can't afford healthcare without Medicaid, or food without food banks because I lost food stamps. But somehow, billionaires are allowed to exist.
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  10024. Wow
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  10025.  @twofacedmgrim  okay
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  10026.  @lizcollinson2692  okay then.
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  10027. Yep.
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  10028. Then it proves Americans want poverty
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  10029. The median income would have to be $450,000....to be able to afford housing now....
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  10030. 73% of workers in my state of north Carolina make $50k/yr or less. I don't understand how people survive.
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  10031. Correct.
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  10032. medicaid and medicare, what i call "corporations being greedy."
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  10033. Okay
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  10034. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Disability benefits are restricted in order to force the disabled into poverty
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  10035. I'm trying to graduate trade school so I can transfer to university. But I have no Pell grants or loans anymore. And I didn't win any scholarships. I don't know how a minimum wage job is supposed to help me pay for food, healthcare and housing and transportation.
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  10036. Yep
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  10037. Made me cry.
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  10038. It's called just-world fallacy
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  10039. ​​ @davidhollenshead4892 as in he killed himself?
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  10040.  @Clusterboy  i think Biden loves poverty.
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  10041. Damn
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  10042. Exactly.
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  10043. It's called just world fallacy.
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  10044.  @Rowsy91  lol as if you need intellect to be us president?
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  10045. Because the employees can't set wages for themselves. They don't have enough bargaining power
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  10046.  @bipolarpunt5721  labor laws do not encompass strong unionization, nor the undoing of at-will employment.
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  10047.  @bipolarpunt5721  It's not just a matter of employers following the law, doctors will always be considered priceless and cashiers worthless, there's a power imbalance in bargaining no matter who's in charge of business or government.
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  10048. Corporations want to depress wages. That's why they love immigrants.
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  10049. That's messed up.
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  10050. ​@haleybrown2836 that is evil too.
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  10051. Correct
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  10052.  @Girlfriday5200  I have to listen because politics affects my life and I use the Internet.
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  10053.  @Girlfriday5200  my replies are gone. Politics affects me.
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  10054.  @CQ-369  poverty has not been eradicated anywhere in the country or world. If voting is what it took to end such a problem poverty wouldn't exist
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  10055. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier. I was kept part time to avoid being eligible for benefits. I received no pathway to promotion. No way to pay for college.
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  10056. That would collapse our tax contributions. The top 10% of income earners pay more in federal income tax than the bottom 90% combined.
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  10057.  @ArticBlueFox96  Gotcha.
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  10058. I'm positive many people would be upset at 35 hour work week.
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  10059. I think $61 hr minimum wage would be better. There tied to GDP growth.
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  10060. Correct.
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  10061. Yep.
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  10062. Rich people think in salary, poor people think in hourly.
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  10063. What you have covered is the real reason conservatives oppose welfare: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  10064. If welfare or ubi isn't attached to work, then poor people will not work minimum wage jobs.
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  10065. I am 28 years old and I turned 28 a few months ago. I quite literally have never kissed a girl in my life, let alone had sex. I wish I could lose my virginity more than anything.
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  10066. You're more concerned with mitigating the risk of unemployment than embracing the opportunity of a workforce devoid of poverty wages.
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  10067. Are you kidding? I'm CRYING for how HAPPY I am for him as an incel!
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  10068. That's messed up.
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  10069. Fox News thinks corporations care about ending poverty.
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  10070. That made me cry.
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  10071. Correct.
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  10072. A living wage for me is $25/hr
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  10073.  @orpheus0108  thank you.
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  10074. Meritocracy is a myth.
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  10075. That's the point. Because politicians want young people poor because poor people can be controlled easily.
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  10076. Because poor people such as myself can't afford to run for office or we would
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  10077. The point is conservatives hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty
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  10078. I agree. I'm a virgin at 29
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  10079. ​ @DharmaPunk111 yep
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  10080. Yep.
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  10081. Ok
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  10082. Since Medicaid is better than minimum wage jobs, Republicans want to gut Medicaid as much as possible
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  10083. Or because it's expensive to be poor.
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  10084. $41 an hour accounting for cost of college
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  10085. You give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing. Calvinism is alive and well in the Republican party!
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  10086. Because it's about deservedness, not costs
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  10087.  @ReverendFather_UncleRuckus  EXACTLY.
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  10088. Yes Holden manifesto
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  10089. The government And conservatives believe poverty and motherhood are incompatible. Thus they oppose abortion as a way of punishing poor women for having sex they don't deserve to have and oppose welfare for children as a way of punishing poor women for having children they don't deserve to have.
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  10090.  @ecoRfan  these companies should get $100,000 fine every time they lose an employee in a year or less. And $200k a year for every position they can't or won't fill.
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  10091. Yep
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  10092. Exactly
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  10093. Businesses are evil. Without employees employers make nothing. Skill alone doesn't determine productivity.
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  10094. Wtf
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  10095.  @ryanyoung8029  except most workers can't bargain like you claim individually.
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  10096.  @ryanyoung8029  most workers aren't unionized....
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  10097.  @ryanyoung8029  ...which isn't possible....
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  10098. Because it isn't right.
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  10099. ​ @berniethekiwidragon4382  exactly.
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  10100. I'll need a license and car first
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  10101. I read that whole thing. THAT IS TRUE PASSION.
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  10102. that is depressing.
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  10103. ​@Charlotte_Martel I agree with you. For some reason, I don't get notifications anymore
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  10104. ​ @Charlotte_Martel exactly. THERE IS A POWER IMBALANCE.
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  10105. I'm a virgin incel.
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  10106. Or how about start out with every worker making enough to pay back loans no matter their job. Oh right we have a 7.25 hr minimum wage
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  10107. Wow.
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  10108. ​ @someonenotnoone lol
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  10109. Otherwise I wouldn't be a virgin
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  10110. depends on what inflation rate you use, and considering cost of living was much lower, the dollar's purchasing power then is much greater than it is now. $6 at 3% inflation annual rate is over $42 today
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  10111. Yes
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  10112. Politicians are bought by these corrupt companies
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  10113.  @davidwong5197  corporations already want and do depress wages of their workers and make them dependent. And large income inequality is one of the reasons poverty persists.
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  10114. Poor people can't afford to run
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  10115. Rich kids don't have student debt.
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  10116. That's messed up
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  10117. Dante in fullmetal alchemist: equal effort does not always mean equal gain.
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  10118.  @jascu4251  we can't. Money corrupts politics.
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  10119.  @jascu4251  that's the only way yes. I am noble(and old enough to run for Congress). But I'm not willing to be a politician for several reasons.
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  10120.  @jascu4251  by noble i desire a $25 minimum wage. Medicare for all. Free college/student debt erasure. Ubi. Rent and mortgage freeze until pandemic is over. Other things: Higher profit sharing. Stronger worker laws(no right to work or at will employment) Break up any business that grosses over $1 billion in annual sales. Maximum wage.
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  10121.  @jascu4251  no politician( I'm not one)would vote for that because they're all corrupt.
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  10122.  @jascu4251  if it was only one person he or she would become corrupt. If we replaced most of Congress with noble people things would change.
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  10123.  @jascu4251  There aren't enough idealists like Kyle to make significant change.
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  10124.  @jascu4251  youtube channels are easy. In congress you need a. A majority B. Consistency. This is an arbitrary number but I would want it to be how large you need Congress to amend the Constitution. In order to amend the Constitution, you need 3/5 of state legislators to propose. 3/4 of state legislators to ratify.
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  10125.  @jascu4251  basically a super majority.
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  10126.  @jascu4251  i think kyle is too much of an introvert to put up with massive debates and criticism frequently.
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  10127.  @jascu4251  lol I'd vote for them in a heart beat
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  10128.  @jascu4251  i know. But we can dream.
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  10129. Ok
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  10130. Yet I'm 28 and handsome and never have sex or dates. I've never held a woman's hands or hugged either.
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  10131.  @harsh3948  I am. I just...don't try.
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  10132. Lol
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  10133. Yep
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  10134. Poor people have no money
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  10135. I'm low income
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  10136. You need to be rich or win a full ride scholarship.
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  10137. I'm sorry to hear that
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  10138. ​ @privacyplease1556 community college isn't cheap either and doesn't cover living expenses.
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  10139. USA doesn't want to end poverty
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  10140. Exactly
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  10141. Because the real reason conservatives hate a living wage is because they believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money
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  10142. Correct
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  10143. ​ @vmoses1979 yea
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  10144. So you believe cashiers deserve a house?
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  10145. Not everyone can be promoted or college educated to get better jobs.
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  10146. Minimum wage isn't enough to pay for community college. it's not even enough to pay for a car.
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  10147. Inflation is acceptable
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  10148. The fed will have to write off the debt as a massive long-term loss. The rich pay the most because they own a disproportionate amount of financial resources. Usa needs to cap college tuition. Trade schools aren't affordable for the poor either nor are they sufficient education for most employers who filter by bachelor's. Usa CAN cap tuition by expanding federal loans program to all students and only granting financial aid to universities which offer low tuition.
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  10149. @HarryDirtay name one election that has successfully changed ideology to the point where poverty or religion has been erased? Anywhere in society? In any society? In history?
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  10150.  @prschuster  poor people like myself can't afford to run for office
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  10151. Most poor people already have a job. Not everyone can have a job.
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  10152. Made me cry, reading that.
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  10153. That's messed up.
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  10154. It doesn't provide free college to all poor people
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  10155. Yep
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  10156. In some states there's no Medicaid expansion so people like me get left out
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  10157. Yep
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  10158. That's what? $5 an hour?
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  10159. Yep.
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  10160. Yep
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  10161. @Elias Håkansson wrong.. Because people get paid based on what society believes you deserve.
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  10162. @Elias Håkansson supply and demand in turn makes us believe certain people deserve certain pay. So yes, it is based on feelings. If it was based on facts no one would be up in arms about this minimum wage proposal. Fox News is simultaneously saying that what billionaires make is too little but at the same time what the poor make is too much. So...when did $1 billion become a smaller number than $31,500? It isn't about the numbers, people believe some jobs are vital to society and others aren't, they respect some jobs and professions and disrespect others.
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  10163. @Elias Håkansson no one is able to produce a trillion dollars on their own, I would argue it's not even possible to quantify the financial contribution any one worker makes to accompany. Whether janitor or CEO.
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  10164. @Elias Håkansson we control wages, we can set it to 15, or 30.
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  10165. @Elias Håkansson you literally just described that human beings decide what wages are.
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  10166. I would say employers can pay people less than their productivity if there is no collective bargaining power.
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  10167. @Elias Håkansson but the point is that is that it is human beings who decide wages it's not something that outside our control. If 15/hr bankrupt a company then too bad, guess a new type of business will have to take its place.
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  10168. @Elias Håkansson again, if a business cannot survive paying $30 an hour then.... it can just go out of business. A company based around most people $8 an hour is no different than basing your company around selling software, that is a conscious human decision that was made, it's not something that was decided from The Ether. And on top of that if the demand that any place is high enough a company can afford a $30 an hour minimum wage.
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  10169. @Elias Håkansson productivity alone does not determine wages.
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  10170. @Elias Håkansson for example places like Chick-fil-A make millions and millions of dollars every single year per store but their workers make pennies. If their cashiers were really paid according to productivity(and not skill) they would be making around $100,000 a year.
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  10171. @Elias Håkansson i literally do not know how else to tell you that people set wages. It's like me telling you that people set voting laws but you're here saying that's not true.
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  10172. Lol!
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  10173. Supermarkets like the one I work at keep me part-time to avoid me being eligible for benefits.
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  10174. Yess
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  10175. Exactly
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  10176.  @jackeagleeye3453  forget him. He just believes only some jobs are worthy of a living wage.
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  10177.  @heywoodjablomi1109  skill alone doesn't determine productivity
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  10178. ​ @botanicalitus4194  hahaha
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  10179.  @Real_Beaky  for example, if walmart. Was taxed 2x-5x times the amount their employees use in welfare benefits things would change in a hurry.
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  10180. It makes my blood boil.
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  10181.  @coolioso808  All of those things are policy choices
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  10182.  @coolioso808  typo. I meant policy
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  10183.  @coolioso808  I'm saying we choose to have war and poverty like we chose to have slavery
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  10184.  @coolioso808  corporate-aligned politicians. They don't want to pay the price for those things. They're mainly unwilling to accept lower profits for giving people affordable medicine or a living wage or benefits.
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  10185.  @coolioso808  if businesses leaders thought poverty was unacceptable they would not willingly pay anyone $8 an hour for any reason
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  10186.  @coolioso808  I'll give you a perfect example. We'd be willing to pay higher taxes.. Even 45% or even 60% to give women the right to vote. However, we're unwilling to pay that same cost for ...free college or healthcare or anything else for that matter
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  10187. Holy crap.
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  10188. That's a risk we must be willing to take.
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  10189. Correct.
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  10190. Because conservatives don't want poverty to end
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  10191. This is a dumb senator.
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  10192. I'm an incel. At 28 I've never kissed, dated, held hands or had sex. I'm unhappy every day. I think about giving up on life now.
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  10193.  @emhu2594  I love my mom, father, siblings, and dog.
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  10194. Republicans hate unions because it's about power. It's the same reason republicans hate welfare: because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  10195. Ok
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  10196. Universal healthcare?
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  10197. Ok
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  10198. Yep.
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  10199. Yep
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  10200. I understand you
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  10201. Yep
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  10202. I believe you.
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  10203. Yep
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  10204. Inflation and unemployment are acceptable risks
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  10205. Ok
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  10206. Who are you to say what jobs aren't as important as others?
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  10207. If corporations kept the same profit sharing rates they had in the seventies people wouldn't be so poor now.
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  10208. It's about ideology. Not economics. Just-world fallacy. Conservatives believe rich people and business owners have "succeeded" in the "system that works," so if they make a mistake, they deserve to get bailed out due to their success. Whereas poor people have "failed" so any government help they receive is a "hand-out."
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  10209.  @TheStax5150  yep
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  10210.  @anarchyamp  my post blew up.
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  10211. That was hurtful to read.
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  10212. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  10213. Punch up, not punch down.
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  10214. Lol
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  10215. Because they believe only rich people and business owners deserve government help.
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  10216. Wow
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  10217. Wtf.
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  10218. Exactly.
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  10219. Middle class voters are targeted by both parties already
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  10220.  @LuisMendoza-pp9qi  I want to get laid. I'm not ready to date because no woman would date a loser like me
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  10221. Would you a date man with the following qualities? 1. No college education 2. No career 3. No independence(driver's license. Car. Home. Credit. Savings account).
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  10222. I'll get a job, buy a car.
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  10223. I want to get into shape, publish a book, make passive income. Finish school
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  10224.  @andrewking4350  that's...why I said what I said. They can't afford to run for office.
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  10225. What politicians are REALLY saying is these jobs aren't worthy of 15/ hr.
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  10226. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, the consequences we are unwilling to tolerate, the prices we are unwilling to pay. The government is presented with a very simple choice: you can have poverty exist in America or you can have worker solidarity but you cannot have both. Our government leaders treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as the risk they refuse to accept.
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  10227. Debt. My friend.
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  10228. Correct.
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  10229.  @secondone3249  I'm on my YouTube channel I'm 6 ft 1 in. I'm 217 lbs. Black. Skinny
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  10230.  @secondone3249  I'm six feet tall 231 lbs Medium build African American
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  10231. Won't convince conservatives because they believe rich people deserve welfare.
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  10232.  @galacticbob1  $45/hr? Vs the $7.25 they were probably making? That's criminal.
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  10233.  @davidpeppers551  $35 compared to 7.25.... That's still a HUGE pay increase. Would you be upset if that was the regular pay rate?
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  10234.  @davidpeppers551  No i meant would you be upset if pizza workers made that much?(some people oppose a $15/hr minimum wage)
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  10235.  @davidpeppers551  do these workers deserve $45/ hr?
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  10236.  @galacticbob1  45/ hr? That's around $100,000/ yr.
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  10237.  @davidpeppers551  correct. value is subjective and thus impossible to quantify. it's why liberals and conservatives disagree, they value different things.
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  10238.  @davidpeppers551  correct. Owners take most of the profits(around 75%) AND colludes to freeze wages for its workforce. For example, Walmart caps its hourly pay at $30/ hr. Keep in mind some stores make over $100 million/yr already and Walmart made $126 billion in profits last quarter. So even if walmart made $1 trillion per minute, it's employees would still make $30/hr max.
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  10239.  @galacticbob1  that's criminal that they make $9/hr then
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  10240. Noone besides millionaires and billionaires have freedom of employment or from employment. 43% of the population is poor, 76% lives paycheck to paycheck.
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  10241.  @srivas7939  here are some more facts: the current poverty threshold(in USA) is very low to make it look like poverty in USA is decreasing. With a cost of living adjustment(also taking account for inflation) the number of poor is really 140 million(as opposed to 45 million). There are both more people in poverty and extreme poverty and has a percentage of the population than when the war on poverty first started. Ditto for global poverty: Over 50% of humanity is in extreme poverty. What's worse, it takes roughly $175 billion to eradicate all this extreme poverty. This is less than 1% of the wealth of even the USA alone.
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  10242. Beautiful.
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  10243. I wish I had those two things
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  10244. By ignoring the poor
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  10245. ​ @kellen5545 yep
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  10246. Yep.
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  10247. Conservatives oppose minimum wage workers making a living wage because they're losers.
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  10248. Poor people aren't dogs, it should be allowed to be spent on anything.
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  10249.  @Precipiceofwind  44% of wage earners make $35k a year or less.
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  10250. Yes there is.
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  10251. Exactly.
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  10252. 1. But this debate is really about people. It's about what we prioritize fighting against: workers having more bargaining power or impoverishment. 2. Poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  10253. @DJ Force  I can't speak for other countries because I'm American: but I CAN tell you why it hasn't been eliminated in the USA: because it's not among the priorities of politicians. 1. Since worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. Corporations are more concerned about fighting against rising worker power(living wage. Unions. Unemployment benefits)rather than against poverty. 2. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. A guaranteed income, or anything close to it, would give workers the power to reject jobs they don't like. To quit jobs that exploited them.
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  10254. @DJ Force  inflation is a risk associated with workers gaining more bargaining power. And inflation happened during covid precisely because of that.
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  10255.  @DJ_Force  people would work, if jobs paid enough.
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  10256. @DJ Force  they were not working because of the pandemic and because they were being paid enough to reject crappy jobs. A guaranteed income wouldn't make people lazy, it'd give them even more power than they temporarily had(extended unemployment and welfare).
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  10257.  @DJ_Force  it isn't a priority to end poverty like rape or kidnapping.
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  10258.  @DJ_Force  markets are created and structured by humans. They're not like the weather, something you observe and predict but cannot control. Just as it's unacceptable for a corporation to discriminate based on race, it can be made unacceptable to have employees on welfare. If the entire economy crater collapses from kicking people off of government assistance via higher wages then so be it, screw an economy that doesn't work for the people. People don't starve in USA because of food stamps/EBT making up for low wages. Relative poverty can be eliminated in USA. America finds the money to pay for the things it values the most. Despite deep gridlock in Washington, America has managed to spend trillions of dollars on tax cuts for the rich, trillions on corporate subsidies, trillions on the Middle Eastern Wars, and trillions on Covid Aid. Politicians have the power to eliminate poverty. It is simply not among their priorities.
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  10259. @DaveWCoons  poverty is a policy choice. It's not among the priorities of politicians to end poverty. There are several reasons why poverty persists now, none of which our government has addressed: Low wage labor Lack of affordable higher education Insufficient welfare programs Growing gap between the rich and poor The magnitude of poverty increasing Poverty among race, gender, and family structure.
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  10260.  @DJ_Force  can you support a family on 7.25/hr? Can you do it making even triple this? Can you afford college making that? What about welfare having employment requirements and able-bodied limitations?
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  10261. @DaveWCoons  1. You can't afford an apartment on minimum wage either. 2.correct. If the job can't sustain you, get rid of the job. 3. Able-bodied has no basis in medicine or any other field of science. You're using that to point to suggest poor people must be "motivated" to work by threatening them with less money. That they're "undeserving" of help. 4.But why are they the center of this conversation? We know full well that America is full of hardworking people who are kept poor by very low wages and harsh circumstances. We know many who want a job can’t find one, and many of the jobs people can find are cruel in ways that would appall anyone sitting comfortably behind a desk. We know the absence of child care and affordable housing and decent public transit makes work, to say nothing of advancement, impossible for many. We know people lose jobs they value because of mental illness or physical disability or other factors beyond their control. We are not so naïve as to believe near-poverty and joblessness to be a comfortable condition or an attractive choice. 5. Working a minimum wage job drains society more through welfare than simply paying them a living wage.
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  10262.  @DJ_Force  most people on welfare do work. They make more money working part-time collecting welfare than working full-time without welfare. It's called working a dead-end job.
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  10263. @DaveWCoons  welfare having restrictions is the entire problem - it implies being poor isn't bad enough AND that people must be "motivated" to work to escape it. The work that offers low wages is dead-end. AND these restrictions put more people into poverty anyway, not not less. Adding work requirements kicked many people off of welfare, either due to being severely injured or lacking employment altogether. Then, it used to be a college student counted as work, so you could attend and receive financial aid for the tuition. And use welfare for living expenses. But Clinton changed it to where it didn't count, so many people had to drop out of school to work dead-end jobs to get welfare that barely helped them anyway. Fast forward to today, and now being a college student, DISQUALIFIES you from welfare even if you do work. This dumb and cruel regulation keeps many people such as myself in poverty.
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  10264. @DaveWCoons  I don't care if the job is a person's passion. My definition of dead-end is a job that pays minimum wage, offers zero benefits or chance for advancement. Which is the precise reason why we don't have a guaranteed income for the poor: being a ceo is not a dead-end job, being a cashier is.
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  10265.  @DJ_Force  living wage minimum wage, pro unions, guaranteed income(overhaul of welfare), Medicare for all, free college. The main 2 are living wage and guaranteed income.
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  10266. @DaveWCoons  1. living wage= keeps you off of government welfare. 2. It varies, but there is already a living wage on MIT. That's not ambiguous. It's a simple calculation. 3. Profits? Corporations are reporting record profits. 4. You're talking about profit sharing. If you paid workers as a percentage of profits, then places that make millions of dollars at each location like Chic Fil A would have to pay their cashiers around $100,000/year.
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  10267. @DaveWCoons  1. corporations are subsidized to the tune of trillions, only for corporations to not raise wages with those subsidies anyway. 2. Supermarkets are subsidized by the government. The former supermarket I worked at made 75-78% of sales from food stamps alone. On top of subsides for their supply chains. 3. Enough money goes to corporations to adjust to wage increases, assuming corporations "can not" afford it.
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  10268. @DaveWCoons  this is about what suffering society deems unacceptable, and poverty is not one of them.
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  10269.  @DJ_Force  1. Yes. Trillions. 2. This is semantics. If grocery stores could not accept food stamps, they'd collapse. 3. Corporations receive subsidies...idk what you're not getting. This is about priorities. A bank collapsed and was bailed out by the federal government. Right wingers don't care. Need food because you're poor? Costs too much. It's all about empowering the rich and disempowering the poor.
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  10270. @DaveWCoons  we've gone on for too long about this 1. Poverty is a policy choice 2. Politicians have the power to eliminate poverty. It is simply not among their priorities. 3. This debate over wages is about priorities, aka what our society values the most. We refuse to accept the risks in fighting against poverty.
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  10271. Wow
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  10272. Rofl
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  10273.  @alexey635able  rich people being given a platform but never poor people.
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  10274.  @alexey635able  my replies are gone
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  10275.  @alexey635able  I'm getting shadow banned
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  10276. Someone argued for that a while back
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  10277.  @yt_nh9347  incorrect because corporations will always wield more power. Even doctors cannot contest the power of corporations(individually).
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  10278.  @WinningThisOne  prove someone is worth more than 7.25/hr? No worker produces pennies of value per hour. Fast food places like Chick-fil-A make enough profits to pay their cashiers $100,000 a year. Grocery store giants like Wal-Mart can do the same. Corporations pay people poverty wages because they can, there's nothing more complicated about it than that.
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  10279.  @tom-f5k  right
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  10280.  @tom-f5k  Because workers are paid based on skill
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  10281.  @tom-f5k  if management was paid based on productivity they'd be making six figures. Like 160k-250k.
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  10282.  @Right-Is-Right  that's messed up
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  10283. Disability is defined too narrowly and most of the poor already work, they get paid poorly.
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  10284. Exactly.
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  10285. ​@davidhollenshead4892 that's messed up
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  10286. Yes
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  10287. It's called Calvinism.
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  10288. It's called survivorship bias.
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  10289. That's messed up.
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  10290. ​ @seeleunit2000 exactly
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  10291. I'm crying because I'm on welfare while pursuing an associates degree
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  10292.  @amymarchandcollins6338  yes
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  10293. Obama deserves to be in prison.
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  10294. Companies are not competing for cashiers.
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  10295.  @austinbyrd4164  markets are regulated by the government. There's no such thing as a "free market." Cashiers are in no position to demand higher pay, let alone the pay of doctors. There's an inequality of bargaining power in labor. What skills? What ladder? You don't gain the skills needed to do brain surgery by pushing carts lol. And moving up the ladder isn't mathematically feasible. The higher up the ladder you go the less jobs are available. Not everyone can move up. In fact, most can't. And that's by design.
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  10296.  @austinbyrd4164  "should not produce a living wage" so you're implying they can receive living wage but you don't believe the workers deserve to. And just because something is a habit doesn't mean you can no longer change.
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  10297.  @austinbyrd4164  if the business can't afford it then shut it down.
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  10298.  @austinbyrd4164  if the job pays so little to not survive then the job isn't worth having. That's like offering free cars that can't drive anywhere.
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  10299. ​@Bobby Byford Music since when did cashiers become worse than rapists? The disdain this country has for minimum wage workers is a travesty.
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  10300.  @cassady7169  you literally can be an actor in a day. Heck. Tiktok even.
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  10301. ​@Cari Waldick I agree with you.
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  10302. ​ @ubereats3048 no.
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  10303. Yep.
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  10304. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty. Rich people and corporations don't want poverty to end because it exists to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  10305. Not everyone can be trade workers.
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  10306. Jesus.
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  10307. I've lowered my standards for women to 0, and I'm still a virgin.
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  10308. Yes.
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  10309. That's an acceptable risk.
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  10310. Women are half of humanity. There is no way to avoid them. I think about losing my virginity daily.
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  10311. Yes. Poverty is a feature of capitalism,not a bug
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  10312. It isn't a pipe dream, it's a policy choice. Like poverty is
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  10313. @JoeAnania  it's deeper than money. It's about priorities. Kamala harris would not accept $4 billion to deny women the constitutional right to vote. On some level, depriving women of voting is unacceptable like depriving women of consent(rape) is. THAT is the heart of the UBI debate and all politics.
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  10314.  @JoeAnania  capitalists can change their views if they want.
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  10315. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  10316. Raise the minimum wage, welfare, UBI
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  10317. Communism works in Star Trek.
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  10318. Won't be implemented in USA because it changed too much of the current situation. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept
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  10319. rich people are heartless.
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  10320. Yes that's a fine expectation.
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  10321.  @jerrymeister7774  they believe in the myth of meritocracy.
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  10322.  @douglastovey2685  I lost Pell grants because of bad grades. When I first went to college, I had to rely on Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years and ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused my grades to drop, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my mom.
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  10323.  @douglastovey2685  I was able to win some scholarships allowing me to attend school and fall full time(cover the tuition). I'm not giving up
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  10324.  @douglastovey2685  my replies are gone.. GONE. DAMN YOUTUBE I TYPED SO MUCH.
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  10325. Correct.
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  10326. If only politicians cared about ending poverty.
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  10327. Calvinism.
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  10328. I wish politicians lived like the worst the country: no healthcare, home, worker protections, pension, transportation, college degree, and a 7.25 minimum wage.
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  10329. Yep.
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  10330. Having a job is a privilege. Having a living wage while working is a right.
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  10331.  @Lord_Humungus  well it can be made a right. Just because something didn't exist before doesn't mean it can't exist now.
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  10332.  @Lord_Humungus  "learn some skills" as if the economy is an individual problem and there are no systemic factors or problems. After the end of WWII up until about the 1970s the United States had a manufacturing economy. Many jobs that didn't require even a high school degree allowed people with relatively low levels of Education to become middle class. From the 1970s onward those jobs were shipped overseas and replaced with low paying service sector jobs. So now people with relatively the same low levels of Education to have no choice but to take such jobs because you can hardly get a decent job with just a high-school diploma or GED now. Get some skills? Education, employment, and training requires years of commitment and money. Something a MW worker lacks the most. Noone is paying a $30,000/year college tuition making $8/hr. Free college was axed, free community college was axed, even student loan cancellation was axed.
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  10333.  @Lord_Humungus  make enough to not only not need welfare like medicaid or food stamps but enough to afford a home. Car. Family. Health insurance. Retirement.
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  10334.  @Lord_Humungus  you ignored the entire rest of my comment
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  10335.  @Lord_Humungus  i just did.. Above the poverty line....
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  10336.  @Lord_Humungus  making $8/hr isn't enough to pay for college now. Obese slobs? Um...you can be both of those things whether you're rich or poor. Again. This country is replete with low wage labor. You can't tell me that 44% of poor people simply don't work or don't work hard enough. Or the 80% of workers live paycheck to paycheck(including millions with college degrees).
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  10337. That's less than what, 2% of Americans?
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  10338.  @reuireuiop0  yes!!
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  10339.  @estebanlara3702  You are implying you want me to make enough to survive without government help.
    1
  10340.  @sophiedowney1077  exactly
    1
  10341. I don't understand why I can't have premium tax credits and Medicaid at once. I don't understand the government. don't they want less people on Medicaid? why would I be forced to off of private insurance onto Medicaid?
    1
  10342. It's called just-world fallacy.
    1
  10343. That's awful
    1
  10344. Yep.
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  10345. disgusting, isn't it?
    1
  10346. Wow man.
    1
  10347. Except our economy is built on poverty.
    1
  10348. They want minimum wage workers in poverty
    1
  10349. I agree.
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  10350. Then women don't deserve to vote.
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  10351. So you admit minimum wage jobs are dead-end? That isn't the employee fault.
    1
  10352. Neutron stars and black holes are amazing antimatter factories and containment systems.
    1
  10353. Yep
    1
  10354. Corporations are the problem.
    1
  10355. People who take out loans are often poor or lower middle class. Student loan debt shouldn't be a thing in the first place
    1
  10356. Yep.
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  10357. Lol
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  10358. Rich people and the dillusioned poor.
    1
  10359. I'm a kissless virgin at 29. I want to lose my virginity.
    1
  10360. If that was true women would resort to prostitution more.
    1
  10361. Because women don't suffer from not getting sex.
    1
  10362. Guy with a silver tongue
    1
  10363. They're rich due to patent protections, and the FTC not having severe enough restrictions on the quantity or quality of acquisitions and mergers.
    1
  10364. Is it right to even regulate a right? Like voting. If voting is a right, then felons should be allowed to vote.
    1
  10365.  @CGT80  wow.
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  10366. It's corporate media.
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  10367. I can't do that in USA. I have a full tuition scholarship but I'm in poverty since part-time jobs don't pay enough to live.
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  10368. Yes.
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  10369. Thank you.
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  10370. Okay.
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  10371. Our government is ruled by oligarchs
    1
  10372. She'd be a McDonald's worker and crying.
    1
  10373. Yep
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  10374. Yep
    1
  10375. If you're ABAWD
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  10376.  @jjnlucky  able-bodied without dependents
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  10377.  @jjnlucky  I agree with your ending statement. The reason welfare is restricted is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  10378. You morally believe poor people deserve poverty
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  10379.  @himoffthequakeroatbox4320  no reason.
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  10380.  @wildfire9280  messed up
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  10381. That's messed up
    1
  10382. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  10383. Yep
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  10384. USA is trash.
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  10385. It's to force poor people to accept slave wages.
    1
  10386. Irony.
    1
  10387. That's $.50
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  10388. Correct.
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  10389. You are sick
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  10390. I guess it's never occurred to you that these jobs have been dumbed down to have no skill involved, making it impossible to make more money. Not everyone can afford to further their education or be promoted.
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  10391. These corporations make billions of dollars in profit every year. Chick-fil-A makes enough at each location to pay their cashier's $100,000 a year. I'm guessing you wouldn't like that either.
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  10392.  @uche007us  I'll just go save up millions of dollars from making $7.25 an hour buddy. Problem solved. You don't need to open a business to do basic math.
    1
  10393. You can't buy intimacy.
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  10394. ​​@Grindelmichel lol yep. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier
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  10395. ​ @mjdegrey4843 you can't buy intimacy or affection
    1
  10396. I'm still a virgin at 29
    1
  10397. Congress is trash.
    1
  10398. ​ @Codraroll yep
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  10399. Republicans won't do this because they fundamentally want poverty
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  10400. @MommyOfZoeAndLiam  so the rich oppose universal access to welfare, healthcare, and education, support open borders, weak labor unions, and competitive labor markets. They collapse banks, drive up inflation and unemployment, and get government subsidies with no end in sight.
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  10401. @MommyOfZoeAndLiam  yep. Welfare, healthcare, and education are opposed, and open borders, weak labor unions, and free trade agreements are supported, in order to provide desperate workers for crummy wages.
    1
  10402. That's too far.
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  10403. ​ @reasonerenlightened2456  yep.
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  10404. Ok
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  10405. Thank you
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  10406. Correct.
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  10407. Every job has too high of a wage in the short term.. It's unknown where that level is in the long term.
    1
  10408. Restaurants like Chic fil a make millions of dollars at each location. They pay their cashiers $9/hour when they COULD pay $100,000 a year.
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  10409. To enforce punitive justice- the disabled are a burden on society. Republicans believe poor people and disabled shouldn't have autonomy.
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  10410. You're correct, but compassion doesn't exist in USA
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  10411. Because walmart created such jobs in the first place.
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  10412. Wrong idea
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  10413. Really?
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  10414. That's a bad thing in his eyes.
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  10415. I wish the economy was based on the well-being of the poor, not the middle class or rich.
    1
  10416. conservatives believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  10417.  @LesterBrunt  that's depressing but true.
    1
  10418. Because Republicans don't care about the costs. They're willing to pay MORE if it means they get to see people they don't like to suffer.
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  10419. Exactly.
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  10420. Correct.
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  10421.  @canonfodder6966  yes. Republicans want there to be an underclass. They do NOT want all workers to be rich.
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  10422.  @bigbootybartholomew6680  140 million people are in poverty. That's close to half the country.
    1
  10423. Wait how much did the managers make?
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  10424. ​ @neeldani7450 because poor people lack bargaining power. The problem is corporations wanting cheap labor, not poor people having a living wage.
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  10425. ​ @mattilahde5220 he believes it's more important to have businesses open than workers having a living wage
    1
  10426. Not everyone can get promoted.
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  10427. It was made a constitutional right in France.
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  10428. Same.
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  10429. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  10430. Exactly.
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  10431. It needs to be written down in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough to people from them to not be in poverty. Enough to live a healthy and humane life.
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  10432. I think it should be very simple, a job is not counted as viable if you can't survive on its compensation. Every job must be a living wage job, so the worker working it is ineligible for welfare. And if you want to go beyond that, every job must be a thriving wage job, which means the workers would have no need to take on debt.
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  10433. ​ @222aint that's messed up
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  10434. Bad. Community College is stressful. I can't afford a car. I need to put in the work for scholarships. No new hobbies or fixations.
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  10435.  @jeffw1267  The point is there are very few full-time workers to begin with.
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  10436. Jesse doesn't want fast food workers to be comfortable
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  10437. It's a protestant work ethic: poor people have to "earn" government assistance and thus they don't "deserve" it.
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  10438. Lol too bad times change. And half the country is employed in near minimum wage jobs. If there were high paying jobs all over the place like you claim the working poor would not exist.
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  10439. The rich believe "unskilled" jobs deserve to be paid nothing.
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  10440. Yep.
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  10441.  @theverdantwolf5402  that's depressing.
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  10442. They need poverty to exist
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  10443. ​ @erichmyles4481  exactly.
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  10444. Yep
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  10445. To force poor people to work exactly for the type of jobs mentioned in the video: slave wage jobs
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  10446.  @chrisp7110  richest country in the world.
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  10447. I'm incel. The reason I don't have sex with other incels is because I'm not gay. Women aren't incels. And these types of incels want control, not sex.
    1
  10448. Because incels expect free sex.
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  10449. That's crazy
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  10450. I believe you.
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  10451. Ok Update I'm a virgin.
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  10452. Welfare
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  10453. They use welfare
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  10454.  @MarquisLeary34  medicaid....
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  10455.  @MarquisLeary34  medicaid and food stamps
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  10456. Republicans believe in just-world fallacy and agree with Hannity.
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  10457. accept inflation
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  10458.  @steellady1164  the truth of our politics lies in the risks we are not willing to take. Inflation is an acceptable risk. As is unemployment and automation. You're more concerned about mitigating the risk of inflation than embracing the opportunity of a workforce devoid of poverty.
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  10459. Yep.
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  10460. Rich people receiving government help encourages investment. For poor people, it encourages laziness.
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  10461. That what republicans believe
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  10462. That literally is a dictatorship.
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  10463. rich people do rely on government assistance, even more so than the poor.
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  10464. Okay ​ @sadepennbrook 
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  10465.  @sadepennbrook  ok
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  10466.  @sadepennbrook  okay
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  10467.  @sadepennbrook  my replies are gone
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  10468.  @devih9134  thank you
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  10469.  @buttarain27  yes
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  10470.  @JessicaSmith-yd2nm  ok
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  10471. So do blue states
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  10472. ​ @RomilCPatel is that why Singapore is wealthy, though? No minimum wage?
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  10473. That's the point. The reason we have horrible welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. This is why I can't simply receive direct cash assistance to afford healthcare. Instead of the complicated medicaid system.
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  10474. @thetownspeople6486  I know about tax breaks. I am referring to all of the different welfare programs Kyle mentioned in the video. It would be very simple to just offer direct cash assistance to poor people such as myself, so we could directly afford food, healthcare, etc. It would also be much cheaper since there would be almost no administrative work other than simple income level determination. But the reason that politicians implement so many restrictions on welfare(least of which is a low poverty level)is what I said above: slave wages. If any poor person could afford health care, housing, food, etc. without having to work, nobody EVER choose to work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement. Or the below cost of living wages offered by greedy corporations that keep 76% of workers living paycheck to paycheck. In short, politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  10475.  @thetownspeople6486  I want higher wages as well. I was and am in poverty right now due to high cost of living, low wages, and no social safety net.
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  10476. @thetownspeople6486  yes. I feel like I'm normal but abnormal at the same time since politicians do the exact opposite of what I want.
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  10477. ​ @django3422  I've asked women for sex before. Didn't work.
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  10478.  @Saberwolves84  yep
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  10479.  @Saberwolves84  he's an other wallet warrior. He believes he has the right to tell others how much money they deserve to make.
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  10480. ​ @tomasdufour9985 exactly.
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  10481. Exactly
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  10482. I haven't either
    1
  10483. Ok
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  10484. Money Made from rigging the economy. The rich make most of the money from perpetuating poverty.
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  10485. ​ @danielmankinde1706 these stories are misleading
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  10486. Because worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our politicians find unacceptable.
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  10487. You can't remove money from politics. Scarcity and values are the two things that are driving politics.
    1
  10488. ​ @RedBeardDog wow
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  10489. I'm 28. I turn 29 in literally less than 50 days. I don't want to be a virgin at 30.
    1
  10490.  @SandraMartinez-gv1yf  okay.
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  10491.  @HarrisonCountyStudio  ok buddy. Cling to your delusions.
    1
  10492. You need money to move.
    1
  10493.  @nicholasthompson7690  exactly.
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  10494.  @nicholasthompson7690  that's messed up.
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  10495. The hard truth is I'm not willing to go to school anymore- I don't have straight As right now and won't anytime soon unless I escape poverty right now without anymore hardships. I've lost both my mom and 20s. And if I have to work at a supermarket again and get a crappy car, then I've lost both for nothing since that's a tacit admission I have to pick up from life where I left off at life 10 years ago. I have no food stamps, section 8 housing, Pell grants or scholarships. My financial aid appeal was denied, leaving me with needing 90 credits to get it back and shut out of federal work-study jobs. I can't work in person at community college anyway without a car. Even if I had an associate's degree today, if I was still poor with my track record, it would take me another 12 years to get a bachelor's degree.
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  10496. Yep.
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  10497.  @charlie-obrien  that makes no sense.
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  10498. Minimum wage jobs are dead end.
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  10499.  @hyper_tex9834  being a cashier is a dead-end job
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  10500. Just-world fallacy.
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  10501. I'm sorry to hear that. But in north carolina, I'm 28 years old. If you have no kids or disabilities, past the age of 25, then you can't get snap or any other welfare.
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  10502. Except medicaid recently.
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  10503. They DO understood inflation. The problem is politicians believe minimum wage workers don't deserve enough money to live. Let alone be middle class.
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  10504. 1. Tinder doesn't work for most men 2. I'm too poor to afford a gym membership. I don't have a car I'm 29.
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  10505. Not everyone can obtain middle class jobs.
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  10506.  @arcajeth626  do not argue with them. He believes in just world fallacy. He believes it's possible for everyone to move on from low-wage jobs and that finding the money and time to go to school is easy for everyone. He also believes minimum wage workers are asking to make more money than their low-level abilities entitled in terms. It's about his moral code and meritocracy it has nothing to do with economics.
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  10507. I'd cap CEO pay at 30. The pay ratio that is
    1
  10508. Poverty is not a choice or individual failing. Extreme wealth has not been earned. You're prioritizing individual economic liberty over collective welfare.
    1
  10509. Considering walmart made $129 billion last year, I'd say these workers are worth far more than even $30/hr.
    1
  10510. ​ @reasonerenlightened2456 exactly
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  10511.  @JoeyJ1984  so the employer makes all that money themselves? The employee does nothing? Get the hell outta here. Employer-employee relationship is a 2 way street
    1
  10512.  @JoeyJ1984  living in poverty is just as stressful as running a business, arguably more so. Even putting that aside it's wrong for the owner to depend on the employees as much as possible but for the employees to depend on the owner as little as possible. They depend on each other, it's wrong to take everything from someone and expect them to ask for nothing in return.
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  10513.  @JoeyJ1984  not everyone has a choice, no. If you can be easily replaced and/or are poor, you accept wages and jobs you don't really want because the alternative is dying. Not to mention businesses don't have to the foot the bill for any potential employee's well being.
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  10514.  @JoeyJ1984  if a janitor asks for more money they'll be easily replaced by a cheaper worker. If that janitor was a doctor the situation is reversed, they'd be the one with all the power
    1
  10515.  @JoeyJ1984  Okay so you're ignoring monopsony power. Got it. This conversation isn't going anywhere.
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  10516.  @JoeyJ1984  they're already valuable enough, degrees are expensive, businesses require money and time, something poor people don't have enough of.
    1
  10517. Yep.
    1
  10518. Correct.
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  10519. Trump is outright saying he only wants rich immigrants, but not poor ones.
    1
  10520. It needs to be written down in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough to people from them to not be in poverty. Enough to live a healthy and humane life.
    1
  10521. The stigma remains
    1
  10522. Yep.
    1
  10523. And what happens when they have no standard still and women still reject them? I've used Tinder for over 6 years and I haven't gotten laid
    1
  10524. Ok
    1
  10525. I'm 29 and an autistic virgin. My life is over if I can't get laid soon
    1
  10526. Judge Dredd lol.
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  10527. Yep. It allows for lower wages and no benefits.
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  10528. Last spring. I was poor because of inflation and regulations against poor people. I'm pursuing an associates degree at a community college. CC doesn't offer health insurance. Four year universities do, but you have to attend full time and then still take out loans on top of that. My minimum wage job kept me part-time, so I couldn't receive health insurance or any other benefits. My internship paid me $900 a semester, and I was taxed on top of that.
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  10529. Welfare has work requirements, but even though I work, it also has the requirement that i'm able bodied, and thus, i am unable to receive welfare anyway.
    1
  10530. His father did exactly that and Eliot refused to be with the woman.
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  10531.  @kaif-tube1692  Not once during my lifetime has even my state passed my top policies. I just don't have faith in USA.
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  10532.  @roofdogblues7400  organizing and protesting accomplish nothing because these politicians are completely self-aware of the poverty and homelessness in this country, they just don't care. I have voted before in governor, presidential, and other elections, but the politicians did nothing there as well. My state has denied Medicaid expansion, not fundamentally fixed fix the fact that schools are funded primarily through property taxes(promoting poverty), has not raised the minimum wage to even $10 let alone 15, has not abolished at will employment or right-to-work laws, among other things.
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  10533.  @kaif-tube1692  my state is north carolina. and the governor tried to pass all of the things i mentioned but a republican led congress over rode his decisions.
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  10534.  @kaif-tube1692  apathy seems to be the only logical conclusion. i've been alive 26 years, almost 27. It is not like poverty is some secret or new problem, if my government wanted to end it, it would've done so long ago. I don't see how i can make any difference.
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  10535. that is messed up.
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  10536. Politicians fundamentally Don't find debt existence unacceptable like they do rape.
    1
  10537. I don't understand why both parties ignore the poor
    1
  10538.  @gothboschincarnate3931  you're right. Maybe incels will finally realize sex isn't everything in life.
    1
  10539. Exactly
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  10540. Unskilled workers.
    1
  10541. Yes
    1
  10542. lol.
    1
  10543. Biden wouldn't do that, though.
    1
  10544. Correct.
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  10545. Yes
    1
  10546. All those things are policy choices. It's about priorities.
    1
  10547.  @brookestephen  I don't know what you mean by that.
    1
  10548. Corporations don't want to end poverty, neither do rich people.
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  10549. Everything is funded by taxes.
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  10550.  @nickthompson1812  the cost of living has skyrocketed with a $7.25 minimum wage anyway. Houses and cars are not priced for people who make minimum wage. And I'd be fine with massive job loss since we have a parasite economy. 44% of wage earners make $35,000 a year or less. 140 million people live in poverty(many of whom do work). We are a low-wage nation.
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  10551. Wtf
    1
  10552. I'm a virgin at 28. I identified as incel for 6 years. I want to lose my virginity before my next birthday.
    1
  10553.  @jaideepshekhar4621  beautiful to hear :)
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  10554.  @fellsmoke  the level of income inequality in our society has been, is, and always will be a choice. It is no law of nature that leaves some people to be so deeply unequal in income compared to others. We choose to be this unequal. We can choose to be more so or less so. It is a choice, action through an inaction, as to why poverty wages have proliferated. As to why poverty wages exist at all. And the worst part of all is that our politicians know it's a choice too... they just don't care.
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  10555. Poverty does not exist in nature it exists in society. Therefore it is safe to conclude that poverty does not exist by chance but by design. We create poverty and what we can create we can destroy.
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  10556. I AGREE!
    1
  10557. Yep​ @Darklordtomcruise 
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  10558. Yes. They're Calvinist.
    1
  10559.  @censorship_cant_stop_truth2  a cashier is not being paid based on his or her intelligence.
    1
  10560.  @censorship_cant_stop_truth2  that doesn't answer the question.
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  10561.  @lifeisagift.cherisheverymoment  you aren't paid based on intelligence.
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  10562. except people do want to work, just not for slave wages. A doctor can refuse to work for $10/hr. A cashier can't. Not on their own. They can collectively. @censorship_cant_stop_truth2 
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  10563. That's because people make maybe 50 cents above minimum wage. 73% of workers in North Carolina make under $40,000 a year. Grocery stores make 75-79% of their sales from food stamps.
    1
  10564. I agree
    1
  10565. Being on the giving end of punishment is much easier than being on the receiving end.
    1
  10566. ​ @mattmurphy24 that's messed up
    1
  10567. That's messed up
    1
  10568. Correct.
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  10569. Yep
    1
  10570. Hahahahaha
    1
  10571. Conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
    1
  10572. ​ @spiritof6663 exactly.
    1
  10573. ​ @spiritof6663 the real reason people oppose a living wage is because they believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class.
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  10574. Because the problem is greedy corporations who want cheap labor, not poor people.
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  10575. You can do both at once.
    1
  10576.  @jtiller1223  I agree.
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  10577. Did you know that Biden has the authority to do both at once? Universities have to meet eligibility requirements to be able to receive federal loans. Biden could change the requirement to being universities charging tuition that is a narrow band around the median price(+/- say 5-10% of 10k). All public universities and trade schools in the country could receive said loans and the loans could all be forgiven, thus allowing colleges to be tuition free.
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  10578.  @jtiller1223  I agree.
    1
  10579. Yes
    1
  10580.  @Zt3v3  corporations are as corrupt as the government.
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  10581.  @bruh-tq2pw  So college students choose tuition prices?? LOL.
    1
  10582. The irony lol.
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  10583. Medicaid alone is over $400 billion annually.
    1
  10584. You believe in just-world fallacy.
    1
  10585.  @FirebirdCamaro1220  wow.
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  10586. 29
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  10587.  @Kronic1Chillz  him or me?
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  10588.  @Kronic1Chillz  ok
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  10589. $5.4 trillion.
    1
  10590. Wow.
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  10591. Poor people can't enact change
    1
  10592. Msm?
    1
  10593. I won't lose hope
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  10594. Corporations want illegal immigrants to support slave wages
    1
  10595. ​ @peregrine116 yep
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  10596. That's messed up
    1
  10597. No Go after corporations who pay people poverty wages.
    1
  10598. The government believes poverty and motherhood are incompatible. They only one middle class and rich people to have children not the poor
    1
  10599. Exactly.
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  10600. Reagan made college expensive in order to keep poor people out of college.
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  10601.  @RealYRM  life is not equal and never will be. It neither possible nor desirable to equalize society. That is the truth that meritocracy wants to hide. Because the implication is people do NOT get what they earn, because nobody can truly earn anything, not without help.
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  10602.  @RealYRM  that's survivorship bias you believe in. I propose several policies that would eliminate poverty and create a less unequal society, which is my ideal society: Living wage, robust welfare, universal/unconditional basic income, free higher education, and massive income redistribution. My goals would be to ensure lower end jobs are done without poverty, not with it, and to help those unable to work or are exploited by corporations.
    1
  10603. ​ @gabrielleseals-cook9511 you got it
    1
  10604. That isn't sex. And elliot didn't want sex anyway.
    1
  10605. ​ @K162KingPin  exactly.
    1
  10606. Correct
    1
  10607. the american economy runs on poverty.
    1
  10608. Money. Trump has money, many immigrants don't
    1
  10609. Yes...they are
    1
  10610. David got it wrong. What he doesn't realize is the GOP doesn't believe all workers deserve to be middle class.
    1
  10611. I just wonder what's wrong with me as a man. Or if I'm even a man. I'm a cashier, attend 2 colleges at once, do an internship, volunteer math research. Am i good enough for sex? I'll admit i'm poor, but plenty of men are poor that get laid. I'm 28 BTW
    1
  10612. Yes.
    1
  10613. @Rae Tavia He's a troll. Ignore him.
    1
  10614. It's the owner's fault that they pay low wages.
    1
  10615. Then you're more upset over not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage Meaning you don't find poverty unacceptable.
    1
  10616. You're telling poor people what to do, as if they are dogs.
    1
  10617. Yep.
    1
  10618. Politicians can abolish poverty. It is simply not among their priorities.
    1
  10619. Maybe blame corporations who want cheap labor, not poor people being exploited for slave labor.
    1
  10620. I'm happy for any incel who gets laid. I'm happy for the guy.
    1
  10621. Would you be happy if I got a $21 million scholarship?
    1
  10622.  @t.sinclair8288  I'm incel.
    1
  10623.  @t.sinclair8288  I've never had sex Or kissed. Dated. Or held hands. I'm a socially inept virgin. But I have nothing to offer women. I have no driver's license, no car, no place of my own, no college education, no career, no interesting hobbies, no social life, no ambition. I live with my mom and work a minimum wage job. I'm nearly 30.
    1
  10624. ​ @Yoshsterpalooza ok
    1
  10625. Calvinism is alive and well
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  10626. You can't buy intimacy.
    1
  10627. Then you don't deem poverty intolerable.
    1
  10628. They enjoy seeing poverty.
    1
  10629. Half of humanity is in poverty. Women sleep with poor guys all the time.
    1
  10630. He gets laid and I don't.
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  10631.  @S.1-I-I-1-1  I guess money doesn't make me a man
    1
  10632.  @S.1-I-I-1-1  okay I'll change.
    1
  10633. I'm 28 years old. I've never hugged, held hands, kissed, or had sex. I identified as an incel since I'm a virgin at nearly 30 years old. I'm male. I don't know how people get hook ups online, since I've used dating apps like tinder, for YEARS to no avail.
    1
  10634. Because it's a sign of normalcy. Me being a virgin at 28 is abnormal and unethical.
    1
  10635. Imagine being 28 and not knowing how to wash clothes. That's an abnormal person.
    1
  10636. ​ @steventv2728 no.
    1
  10637. Yep.
    1
  10638. Even with 0 standards some men can't get laid.
    1
  10639.  @danielsaavedra8520  considering how much even fast food joints make they could afford 100k per year.
    1
  10640. I'm on Medicaid because i can't afford my medications working minimum wage jobs while in school. My health insurance premium was $436/month($600 total) when medicaid was expanded for bluecross Blue shield. Thus, Medicaid expansion forced me off of private insurance and onto Medicaid. Screw USA.
    1
  10641. Nobody should have to do that to go to college
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  10642. ​ @TheLbc10 the system is the problem, not the individual. Poor and lower middle class people shouldn't have be asked to die to have a chance at a better life, when many people before them have died fighting for that same thing.
    1
  10643. Jesus christ
    1
  10644. Scott, I'm inspired to keep pursuing my physics degree because of you. I want, no NEED, to become a Physicist. A bachelor's, then PhD.
    1
  10645. i believe you. i am CHANGING.
    1
  10646. ​ @Vexarax you're correct.
    1
  10647. Not all, but I am
    1
  10648. Education should be available to poor people
    1
  10649.  @evandavis2362  you're implying poor people don't deserve an education. The system is the problem, not the individual.
    1
  10650. The work requirements are really their reinforcement of just-world fallacy.
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  10651. None. 0. Nada.
    1
  10652. If there was higher profit sharing chic fil a cashiers would make $100,000 a year.
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  10653. It's called Calvinism. People like her believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder, and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  10654. Calvinists believe that hard work and not faith is the path to salvation.
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  10655. because either the person is rich and isn't affected by the minimum wage or is poor but is deluded into believing they one day will become rich(because according to fox news every problem is on the individual).
    1
  10656. Yep
    1
  10657. Over time? Poverty won't take a smoke break in the meantime. Inflation is a real risk that we must be willing to take.
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  10658.  @anthonycarbone3826  the core problem here is corporations: they want many things, but in this case cheap labor. Minimum wage workers are already kept part time so they don't receive benefits. These corporations make billions of dollars from cheap labor, wage theft, buying up housing, debt, and more. All corporations have to do is pay a living wage with benefits and they won't have to worry about a minimum wage increase or compete with welfare.
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  10659.  @anthonycarbone3826  thanks. How did I debate?
    1
  10660. That's disgusting.
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  10661. FOX News deludes poor people into believing poverty is a moral failing. Either shaming the poor or convincing the middle class, the poor are the problem.
    1
  10662. 8 million while millions of supermarket workers live in poverty?
    1
  10663. Yep.
    1
  10664. Why?
    1
  10665.  @Moosenogger  you're right, i guess rich people are greedy.
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  10666. People on welfare do work. They make more money working part-time, receiving welfare , vs working full time, and not receiving welfare. republicans don't want to admit that the system is the problem because they believe in just-world fallacy.
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  10667. The real reason republicans oppose a living wage minimum wage is because of morals. They believe minimum wage workers don't deserve to make all that money. A Republican's moral code says it's unethical to pay minimum wage workers more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors wanted to make $15. An hour, the same conservatives that oppose a $15 an hour minimum wage now would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage then. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with the expense and everything to do with status.
    1
  10668. It's a red herring.
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  10669. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  10670. Yeah. That isn't why poverty exists.
    1
  10671. Poor people can't afford to run for office
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  10672. That's even worse.
    1
  10673. "Entry level jobs" are dead-end.
    1
  10674. ​ @bobfrick8250 they make most of the money
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  10675. A catch 22.. That people think is acceptable to deal with if you're poor.
    1
  10676. Correct.
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  10677.  @insightfulhistorian1861  I work as an intern too. $15/hr. 4 hours a week. It's dead-end like minimum wage.
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  10678.  @insightfulhistorian1861  I work as a cashier and intern. I'm lucky I'm supported by my parents so I have the freedom to either get a better job or apply to scholarships.
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  10679.  @insightfulhistorian1861  yep. Truthfully "entry-level" jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. I seek to have a scholarship for both school and living expenses.
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  10680.  @insightfulhistorian1861  they're important for society but many people believe the workers deserve poverty
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  10681.  @insightfulhistorian1861  that makes me cry. I think I've consumed too much MSM punching down minimum wage workers.
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  10682.  @insightfulhistorian1861  yes I am here.
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  10683.  @insightfulhistorian1861  do not give up hope because neither have I.
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  10684.  @insightfulhistorian1861  it's a dead-end job. You must change for YOU. NOT ANYONE ELSE.
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  10685.  @insightfulhistorian1861  do NOT wait for opportunities, MAKE them.
    1
  10686. yep
    1
  10687. So then you believe Minimum wage workers deserve poverty
    1
  10688. ​ @xmoore5659 exactly
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  10689.  Sky Gardener  that's sex with yourself not with someone else.
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  10690. An ugly woman can get laid with 0 standards. An incel like myself can't( because I'm a straight male).
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  10691. Correct.
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  10692. @atlien1988  the poor people's campaign puts the number of people in poverty at 140 million. That's close to half the country.
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  10693. ​ @100KGNatty you can't buy intimacy. I'm still incel if I pay for sex
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  10694.  @BaltimoreAndOhioRR  okay
    1
  10695.  @100KGNatty  ok
    1
  10696. ​ @100KGNatty I'm incel
    1
  10697. ​ @100KGNatty ok
    1
  10698. Exactly!
    1
  10699.  @randomthings1293  I'm a virgin at 27. I'm an incel
    1
  10700. His real opposition to a living wage is moral: he thinks poor people don't deserve to make that much money
    1
  10701. My replies keep getting deleted​ @Linkous12 
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  10702. ​ @X2X2X438  Noone earns anything because merit is a lie.
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  10703. Lol
    1
  10704. Gross
    1
  10705.  @bubblesnz1059  the famous ones like crowder and shapiro are fine with it.
    1
  10706. I doubt fox news viewers know that.
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  10707. ​ @EvsEntps  Not an argument against having a more educated populace.
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  10708.  @EvsEntps  useless? based on what? why? anyway those with a college degree generally make more than those without one because of said degree.
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  10709.  @EvsEntps  a college degree is not a valid substitution for an IQ test. No degree anyone gets is a good measure of their intelligence. There are mcdonald's cashiers who are smarter than some doctors. Again, what is a "useless" degree according to you? What metric are you using?
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  10710.  @EvsEntps  most degrees offer non transferable skills. An aerospace engineer can't simply land any other type of engineering job( maybe mechanical). A neurosurgeon can't just apply to be a heart surgeon or micro biologist.
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  10711.  @EvsEntps  most companies filter by degree because they refuse to do extensive job training themselves.
    1
  10712. Yes
    1
  10713. Wow
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  10714.  @charlie-obrien  yep.
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  10715. I dislike when you say the full time metric.
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  10716. When I was a cashier at a supermarket, I was kept part-time, so I couldn't be eligible for health insurance. Or any other benefits. Does that mean I deserve poverty? Since i was forced to work part-time? And I didn't want to have any job at all vecause I'm a community college student. But welfare disqualifies you for eligibility if you are enrolled in any form of post secondary education
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  10717. I want to lose my vcard. I'm 29 years old now. Getting a degree and career takes time.
    1
  10718.  @johnroubos371  I'm happy for you. I'm very behind in life but I don't want to give up.
    1
  10719.  @johnroubos371  I don't want to wait until marriage.
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  10720.  @mihirgupta5332  compared to other countries but within USA 40k is pennies.
    1
  10721. ​ @erinshaw6266 nice
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  10722.  @elysetroubadour6117  conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  10723. Exactly
    1
  10724. ​ @jaminjones8784 exactly
    1
  10725. I'll answer you since I'm incel myself. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. I make $900/semester as an intern I can't pay for hookers
    1
  10726. Republicans want work requirements for welfare programs because they want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Also Republicans care more about family values than work ethic, and thus want kids to receive help but not poor parents.
    1
  10727. You misunderstand republicans. Conservatives believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  10728. Wages can be higher via profit sharing.
    1
  10729.  @djonin91  Yes make the minimum wage $200k if that's what it takes to afford a two bedroom apartment.
    1
  10730.  @djonin91  it's a right yes if you work 40 hours a week
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  10731.  @djonin91  a living wage is a policy choice. There is nothing delusional about it.
    1
  10732. Yep
    1
  10733. ​ @hannahw7023 ok
    1
  10734. Depends on mass of spacecraft, thrust, specific impulse, and exhaust velocity
    1
  10735. Yep.
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  10736. Trust me I know. I'm a kissless virgin at 28 and I am nothing like destiny. I have no driver's license / car / apartment or home. I have no college degree / career/training certificate. I'm a cashier/student at college / intern. I am completely poor and broke. This lack of money is why I really don't go and do anything, I don't work out or go to the movies or go to clubs or anything. I just....work and stay home otherwise. I've used many dating apps, swiped thousands of times, and I have never even gotten a single date. I've never even held hands!!
    1
  10737. ​ @RocKnight11 ok
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  10738.  @objectivethinker3225  that is not the way wages work. Someone else getting a $7 pay raise does not take money out of your pocket. Just say what you're really thinking: you believe poor people don't deserve a living wage and poverty should punish them to work harder.
    1
  10739. ​ @tbc_L7 ok
    1
  10740. Yep.
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  10741. $6 in the 1970s is $45 today.
    1
  10742. I'll tell you the REAL reason Republicans hate welfare like Medicaid: because welfare allows poor people to refuse minimum wage jobs.
    1
  10743. Poor people like myself can't own our own news media company and such companies don't interview me
    1
  10744. I can't own 5 homes making $10 hr...
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  10745. Correct.
    1
  10746. Yep. Although I haven't succeeded with women because I don't approach them.
    1
  10747. I got tired of asking for sex and being rejected.
    1
  10748.  @jeanroger4738  my...fault.
    1
  10749.  @jeanroger4738  I'll change.
    1
  10750. that is morally wrong.
    1
  10751. It depends on what the physical laws are, but most likely no. If the gravitational constant was a lot higher or lower, then the enormous energy density in the other Universe would either lead to the creation of a black hole or not be enough to deform space in an appreciable manner. And if any other physical constants were to be changed, even if the Wormhole were to remain stable the universe would kill any human. For example if one of the fundamental interactions was missing, then your Atoms would not bind together in the way it does now. You'd disintegrate.( for example if there was no strong nuclear force mediated by gluon fields).
    1
  10752. That was hurtful to read as I consider myself an incel. Because you're right. I'm mainly in poverty and socially isolated.
    1
  10753. ​@Fluktuition I live in a large city with endless events and people, but I have no driver's license or car and I'm broke So I stay at home 24/7
    1
  10754.  @BennyFrets  I'll be getting my drivers license in a week. And my car within a month.
    1
  10755. ​@TheBrandoncyz for some reason I don't get youtube notifications anymore. I'm glad I revisited this video. I've applied to scholarships and signed up for classes next semester. I don't have a driver's license or car yet. But my priorities now are School 1. Pay for classes 2. Submit FAFSA 3. Get an apartment on campus Productivity 1. Have a part-time job. 2. Save up $3,000 3. Get my driver's license 4. Title/own this car I've been gifted. Saturn sl2 1996 Health 1. Have a gym membership 2. Hire a personal trainer 3. Go to gym 4x a week
    1
  10756. ​ @TheBrandoncyz I still haven't gotten my license and car. But when I do, I'll ping you.
    1
  10757. ​ @TheBrandoncyz I've been gifted a 1996 Saturn SL2.
    1
  10758. Yep.
    1
  10759.  @DMH5372  welfare for the poor is good because poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. For the rich it's bad because they're already rich.
    1
  10760.  @humanbeing3337  yep
    1
  10761.  @djangotrane  yep
    1
  10762.  @Care2WorldBuild  ok
    1
  10763. Yep​ @dcorgard 
    1
  10764. Because politicians only care about the rich.
    1
  10765.  @mattwolf7698  correct. Otherwise I wouldn't be receiving a poverty wage and unaffordable Healthcare and college.
    1
  10766. Meritocracy is a myth because there is no objective measure of merit, so there is no way to determine if your society is meritocratic or not
    1
  10767. I'd add on taxing corporations two to five times the amount their employees used in welfare benefits.
    1
  10768.  @13699111  Republicans want poor people to suffer and work for slave wages.
    1
  10769. You are correct. The poor and disabled are considered burdens.
    1
  10770. Exactly!!
    1
  10771. But it can be made livable. The minimum wage is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
    1
  10772. Just because you have minimal skills doesn't mean you deserve poverty....
    1
  10773. The politicians know that they just don't care because poverty is great to them.
    1
  10774.  @willmorrison1022  with just a 4% annual inflation rate, $6 in 1979 translates to over $42.11 today.
    1
  10775. ​ @realDonaIdTruck exactly
    1
  10776. ​ @SuperAH1985 the GOP doesn't want poverty to end because they want a labor pool that works for slave wages for corporations
    1
  10777. I'm a freaking virgin. I'm nearly 30
    1
  10778.  @brianesbaugh6897  lol nope. AOC makes 200k a year. She is never going back to being a waiter nor does she care waiters make pennies. I wish I could be a journalist. So many low paying jobs, unaffordable housing, expensive college, stagnant wages, no worker's rights, lack of corporate bonuses.
    1
  10779.  @MyContestPix  I wish I was a journalist
    1
  10780.  @MyContestPix  okay. Will do. I'LL BEAT MSNBC.
    1
  10781.  @bubbajenkins8524  nice strawman.
    1
  10782.  @bubbajenkins8524  USA is already socialist.
    1
  10783. Minimum wage jobs don't give you skills.
    1
  10784. They are dead-end.
    1
  10785. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier instead of $17/hr that I wanted.
    1
  10786. $6 in 1970 with just 3% inflation calculator is around $45/hr today. Median annual income then was $20,000.
    1
  10787. Conservatives don't believe unskilled workers deserve a living wage.
    1
  10788. They only want the rich to receive unlimited funds
    1
  10789. the fuck?
    1
  10790. Exactly.
    1
  10791. Yep.
    1
  10792. Exactly.
    1
  10793. Medicaid coverage is for poor people.
    1
  10794. Let's not have people not have a decent life because of some arbitrarily named entry level job.
    1
  10795.  @satisfied656  i.made $8.50/hr at one point.
    1
  10796. That is depressing
    1
  10797. Messed up.
    1
  10798. They don't think you're worth it. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier working for a multi million dollar supermarket.
    1
  10799. All incels are men. There are no female incels.
    1
  10800. Lol
    1
  10801. As long as healthcare is scarce it can never be a right, but it is a privilege that the government can ensure.
    1
  10802. That's messed up
    1
  10803. ​ @HiThere-ig5iz  yep.
    1
  10804.  @Myth00zila  fallacy of relative privation fuels just-world fallacy.
    1
  10805.  @Myth00zila  if the system could be better, it's implying the system is the problem.
    1
  10806. You're right. I sit at home and don't socialize.
    1
  10807. Everything is funded by taxes. I guess funding the police is theft too?
    1
  10808. It's almost as if poverty does not exist in Crowder's eyes.
    1
  10809. The point is to force people to work such jobs.
    1
  10810.  @dougfisher6017  liberals(generally) believe success is due to luck and not effort where as conservatives believe success is due to effort and not luck. They are fundamentally incompatible.
    1
  10811. This is an anime but it captures what conservatives believe about success: https://youtu.be/wv0cs2QPjfo
    1
  10812. I don't think I desire $50,000 of debt to party.
    1
  10813. Desi needs to be the permanent host. She'll be the only voice of reason in politics.
    1
  10814.  @kuzehotarubi6912  sounds good to me.
    1
  10815. Won't work because the entire problem is that it reduces poverty. Poverty is a policy choice, one that politicians choose over and over again.
    1
  10816. ​ @TheNinthGeneration1 exactly
    1
  10817. I don't understand anything of what I just read.
    1
  10818. I need to get laid
    1
  10819. That made me cry.
    1
  10820. And when college was $900 a year, not $30,000
    1
  10821. At 900 a year and 24/ hr you literally could pay for college working one week.
    1
  10822. That's messed up.
    1
  10823. Thank you for your service.
    1
  10824. Wow...
    1
  10825. lol too high standards.
    1
  10826. Wow
    1
  10827. Except Republicans want poor people to work for slave wages
    1
  10828.  @1987BillyBob  inflation is an acceptable risk.
    1
  10829. Yep
    1
  10830. ​ @DarthLesbian  wow
    1
  10831. Yep
    1
  10832. Without Medicaid I'd be dead
    1
  10833.  @bartdoo5757  no she isn't the same person.
    1
  10834. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  10835. Yep.
    1
  10836. Reagan didn't want poor people in college.
    1
  10837.  @Selcryn  which is messed up. But my point is corporations would pay people inflation-proof living wages to even janitors then.
    1
  10838. Epic
    1
  10839. Holy crap
    1
  10840. 300 seems fine.
    1
  10841. ​ @kingpotato7183 ok
    1
  10842. You're right. I'm incel virgin at 29. I don't socialize or have a career or any interesting hobbies. I need to change in order to obtain sex.
    1
  10843. You're right. I'm incel virgin at 29. I don't socialize or have a career or any interesting hobbies. I need to change in order to obtain sex.
    1
  10844.  @karenmassey8354  you're right I'll do that
    1
  10845.  @karenmassey8354  I'll save up money and go to Nevada.
    1
  10846.  @karenmassey8354  prostitution is expensive, illegal, and unfulfilling. A sex worker doesn't offer genuine affection.
    1
  10847. Politicians want poverty to exist
    1
  10848. K
    1
  10849. Yep
    1
  10850. Okay
    1
  10851. YOU ARE SO RIGHT.
    1
  10852. It's called just-world fallacy. The moment you admit society/policy is the problem then you're admitting individual effort doesn't matter, that people no longer have agency.
    1
  10853.  @omnisomnia  agreed. I do too. Unfortunately it requires a willingness to change...something conservatives lack.
    1
  10854.  @omnisomnia  so if a cashier could afford a house/car/family(was middle class) you'd be fine?
    1
  10855.  @omnisomnia  exactly. But I hope you know the other reason conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage... Conservatives believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their "low level" abilities entitle them to earn. NOBODY questions a neurosurgeon making $900k a year but $32k/yr is awful.
    1
  10856.  @omnisomnia  yes. I agree with you. If only democrats and Republicans could see eye to eye.
    1
  10857. Exactly
    1
  10858. Yep.
    1
  10859. are you saying she died or she quit being your friend?
    1
  10860. I'm changing
    1
  10861. Yep.
    1
  10862. They don't want to fix it
    1
  10863. ​ @MichaelDerryGameitect  Exactly!
    1
  10864. I am a kissless virgin at 28. Using a robot still would be fake, like using a pillow.
    1
  10865. They can, but they won't because it's about priorities. Ideology - many people believe poor people don't deserve government assistance, like loan forgiveness. This is because many conservatives believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class. Economics - more educated people means less workers accepting slave wages.
    1
  10866. I'm not an incel anymore
    1
  10867. ​ @nyasiah1311 his survivorship bias.
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  10868. Background and Struggles: I’m 29 years old and have spent 10 years working towards a bachelor’s degree, but I’ve only completed 27 credits. Over the years, I’ve faced many obstacles, including my mom being sick for six years before passing away in 2023. During that time, I had to rely on welfare and Medicaid, but the system didn’t fully support me, especially when it came to caring for my mom. After she passed away, I lost housing and food stamps, which left me homeless and dependent on my dad for support. Academic Record: I currently have a 1.1 GPA with 89 attempted credits, 27 completed credits, and 15 transferable credits. I’ve been rejected from scholarships, my financial aid appeal was denied, and I couldn’t get work-study because I wasn’t eligible for financial aid. Right now, my grades are failing: I have a 79 in Brief Calculus, a 69 in Accounting, and a 41 in College Physics I. I’m not planning to study for the physics exam tomorrow and expect to fail it, just like I did on the first exam. Harsh Reality: If I don’t get at least Bs or As this semester, I’ll be kicked out of Wake Tech and lose my chance to transfer to NC State. At this point, I don’t feel like continuing school is worth it unless I can afford to do it without struggling financially. I would only continue with my education if I were financially independent. Decision to Quit: I’m seriously considering quitting everything related to my degree and education. I don’t want to continue facing poverty and academic failure. I’ve realized that unless I become financially free, I can’t keep pursuing school. I’m also not interested in becoming a screenwriter or journalist if it means quitting school, and I’d rather focus on finding financial stability through other means.
    1
  10869. Yes
    1
  10870.  @hugegamer5988  management would cry
    1
  10871. Exactly.
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  10872. The judge was a sick bastard.
    1
  10873.  @Navy35  that's even worse.
    1
  10874.  @Navy35  I am feeling some pain in America. I work as a cashier at a supermarket, I make $10 an hour. Now if this was the 1950s that'd be fine but with homes and car prices now I can't afford to live on my own. I still live with my family. I can't stand watching Fox News because they bash minimum wage workers like myself calling me lazy. Yeah none of these Fox News or conservative pundits explain to me how working your way up on a minimum wage job gives you a 50-cent raise per year if that and that there are not enough jobs for all of us to move up to The truth of the matter is many entry-level jobs are dead end.
    1
  10875. Ok
    1
  10876. Both are important. The real opposition to a living wage reveals many Americans find poverty acceptable.
    1
  10877.  @anthonycesario4056  won't work. Because corporations won't offer health insurance to unskilled workers.
    1
  10878. Yep
    1
  10879. People who say that believe in just world fallacy and are other pocket warriors. When they tell minimum wage workers to get a better job what they're really saying is they believe minimum wage workers are not entitled to a living wage. Paying mw workers more money has nothing to do with economics and everything to do with status.
    1
  10880.  @CreativeArtandEnergy  the reason politicians want work requirements for Medicaid is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
    1
  10881.  @lunaballuna  I'm sorry to hear that.
    1
  10882. Messed up.
    1
  10883. That's sad.
    1
  10884. ​ @sr2291 I lost SNAP because I don't work.
    1
  10885.  @sr2291  that was tried under Nixon. Family assistance plan. It failed because it empowered poor people
    1
  10886.  @Howlingoutloud-m8  yep
    1
  10887. Beautiful.
    1
  10888. Yes lol
    1
  10889. Yep.
    1
  10890. Wow
    1
  10891. My community college costs $5,000 a semester, plus I'm on welfare to cover living expenses.
    1
  10892. Exactly
    1
  10893.  @s0515033  they make low wages because profit sharing is in the opposite direction.
    1
  10894.  @s0515033  low skill doesn't mean low wage. The low wage comes from employers not caring how much employees want to be paid.
    1
  10895. ​ @Nathaniel-w5n ok
    1
  10896. False.
    1
  10897. That's a sense of disrespect.
    1
  10898. ​ @relentlessprofanity lol
    1
  10899. Hello.
    1
  10900.  @kc6810  okay.
    1
  10901. biden could dismantle corporate power/billionaire wealth/private equity gains and thus destroy almost all their finanical security.
    1
  10902. Yep.
    1
  10903. No
    1
  10904. ​ @Ubique2927 you oppose welfare as a moral issue, you think poor people don't deserve the help. Poor people already work.
    1
  10905.  @Ubique2927  they do work. Their pay is trash. And maybe working minimum wage jobs should pay more than welfare.
    1
  10906. I'm pathetic
    1
  10907.  @tmcd5049  Why would it not be realistic? It's about priorities, it's about what Biden, and we as a country, value the most.
    1
  10908.  @KrustyKlown  Why won't it work?
    1
  10909.  @tmcd5049  Democrats had a supermajority under Obama but did nothing to raise the minimum wage. They had a majority under Biden for a while and passed a $1.9 trillion Covid aid bill without any Republican support. The Dems could've used this leverage to pass all of the policies I mentioned. The real political problem is deeper than dems vs repubs: it's ideology about us as humans. Politicians do not find people being deprived of a living wage, health care, affordable drugs, education, infrastructure, or a clean environment unacceptable like women being deprived of voting or consent. Politicans do not believe all sources of suffering are wrong.
    1
  10910. @Krusty  none of this is wishful thinking. It's about priorities. It's about what deprivation and hardship do we find unacceptable. 1. That's why there's government intervention. 2. Revoking patents can be done if our society truly prioritized it. If our elected leaders knew big pharmaceutical companies weren't going to change unless something that drastic happened. 3..except nobody would need to borrow if things weren't so expensive in the first place. That's like blaming doctors for all the high prices in healthcare. 4. Colleges can be made tuition free, if it was a priority.
    1
  10911.  @KrustyKlown  rape is unacceptable. We are not willing to allow it. It's a choice what our priorities are. We consciously and collectively decide what's important.
    1
  10912. @paradoxmo  several things 1. Biden once supported that number. 2. As I've said many times before, this is not truly about scarcity, but ideology. It's about priorities. 3. Usa has spent trillions on tax cuts for the rich, trillions on corporate subsidies, and trillions on the military industrial complex/ Middle Eastern wars. And trillions on covid aid. 4. Politicians have the power to eliminate poverty. It is simply not among their priorities. 5. If 45/hr isn't sustainable, we can divert the trillions (that I mentioned) to businesses to adjust to the wage increase. 6. Businesses already hire under the table and rely on immigrants. 7. Corporations already do and have been screwing over workers longer than I've been alive: outsourcing. Automation. Busting unions. Forced arbitration. Keeping workers part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits(I call it being a full-time part-time worker), contract work to avoid paying as much as in-house employees and avoiding benefits too. This spills over to HB-1 Visas as well.
    1
  10913.  @MightyJosh1985  people have been criticizing me nonstop. What do you think of my points?
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  10914. @Krusty  you are not getting what I'm saying. Once we set rape as unacceptable, we're willing to pay the price, accept the consequences, take whatever risks, in fighting against rape. If we truly thought the deprivation I mentioned was unacceptable(poverty wages, no healthcare, no affordable medicine, etc.) like rape, we would similarly be willing to accept whatever consequences, take whatever risks, and pay whatever prices in fighting against this deprivation as well. We are not willing to accept said consequences, risks, and prices in fighting against low wages or lack of affordable health care. Therefore, we don't truly believe such deprivation is wrong.
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  10915. @Krusty  politicians do not have the same priorities. They do not have same end goal. That's why there's a difference in values. It isn't like women having voting or consent, where everyone wants the same thing.
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  10916.  @MightyJosh1985  thanks.
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  10917.  @MightyJosh1985  thanks. I'm done with it too.
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  10918. @Joshua Clarke  sorry. I'm bad at prescription. I'm just saying if we were willing to stop all suffering, we'd do it. We'd accept whatever consequences that came our way. We can choose to change.
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  10919. Now you see my theory as to why republicans hate welfare: its about comparative Advantage. If the income earned from a government grant is larger than the income earned from a wage, then working becomes pointless. Welfare benefits exceed the salary from minimum wage jobs.
    1
  10920. I understand.
    1
  10921. You are right.
    1
  10922. Yep
    1
  10923. That's worse.
    1
  10924. Incels feel entitled to have sex provided to them by the women that they choose. Since the women they want "should" be providing sex for free incels see no reason to work to make themselves more attractive and they certainly would not pay for it.
    1
  10925. Yep.
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  10926. That's messed up
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  10927.  @sebastienholmes548  not enough.
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  10928. Wow
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  10929.  @darfcrow  wow.
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  10930.  @darfcrow  I would love that.
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  10931.  @darfcrow   I applied for over $12 million of scholarships! If I got that, I'd cry.
    1
  10932. How would you feel if I won $64 million of scholarship awards?
    1
  10933. I made a viral post a while back. I said it's always politicians and rich people with 24/7 armed security arguing for gun control
    1
  10934. Wtf
    1
  10935. Same
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  10936.  @kiki13450  I see.
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  10937. Because the truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. People fear Medicare for all because it risks changing too much.
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  10938. Correct
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  10939. I'm 29 years old. I've never had sex, kissed, held hands, hugged, or dated
    1
  10940. Ok
    1
  10941. That's about self love.
    1
  10942. ​@Doug Harris yes. But what is the point OP is making?
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  10943. What does this mean?
    1
  10944. @Doug Harris  wouldn't that be the case for all labor, though? If neurosurgeon was paid $50 million for a $50,000 surgery, that would just as quickly bankrupt any company.
    1
  10945. Many jobs are dead-end and don't give you skills, like minimum wage jobs and temp jobs.
    1
  10946. Ok
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  10947.  @kenbrown2808  the answer is no to both....
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  10948. Corporations want to pay slave wages.
    1
  10949. Thank you.
    1
  10950. Yep.
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  10951. Poverty is a policy choice.
    1
  10952. Exactly. Both parties ignore the poor which is why I don't vote.
    1
  10953. My fucking replies keep disappearing
    1
  10954. Yep​ @Rabbit763 
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  10955. Prostitutes don't offer real affection. That's disgusting to me
    1
  10956. @ronrolfsen3977  I guess what is sad is that poor people essentially give up- they just accept the abuse.
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  10957.  @teremleonheart3776  bribery is a choice.
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  10958.  @ronrolfsen3977  wow
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  10959.  @fortheloveofmusic860  I vote. Poor people overall? Not so much
    1
  10960.  @TheRatsintheWalls  I see
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  10961.  @AgnosticApologist  I guess it's hopeless then
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  10962.  @victoriale2792  okay
    1
  10963. Exactly.
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  10964. Yep😊
    1
  10965. Exactly
    1
  10966. ​ @whazzupio yep
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  10967. Inflation is an acceptable risk.
    1
  10968. ​ @RebeccaOre that's messed up
    1
  10969. Jesus Christ
    1
  10970. That could fund free college, living wage, welfare.
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  10971.  @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty  The reason politicians oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  10972. @personmcdudeguy  Think of it this way: it's a false choice. Either have work that you can't survive on without welfare or have welfare that you can't survive on without work. If you could survive or thrive, on either one or the other, then you would neither need nor want to have both. How many neurosurgeons apply for food stamps? 0. Why? Because their work pays them more than enough to not need welfare. If the opposite was true, then no one would accept low wages, just like doctors don't.
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  10973. You're ableist.
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  10974. Politicians don't want to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. Robust welfare programs would give the poor too much bargaining power.
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  10975. When I was a cashier McDonald's. I made $8.50/hr. $6,675/year. The $2,000 check equaled four months of minimum wage work, assuming I even worked full-time. If I could truly be paid $24,000/year, I would never work for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
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  10976.  @kevinmichael9482  politicians don't want to end poverty, though.
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  10977. People who work part-time don't deserve to be poor, either. Neither do disabled people, who often can't work at all.
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  10978. ​ @dansmodacct  living wage: enough to keep that person's household above the poverty line.
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  10979. ​@timbre dan a guaranteed income is better than ubi. The real political problem with such a policy isn't the costs, but the benefits. A policy like this would give workers power to reject crappy jobs. They could quit jobs that exploited them. Ultimately, they would be pickier about the type of jobs they would take, if they would work at all.
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  10980. @Cari Waldick  how do you convince politicians poverty is wrong? Idk how to do that.
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  10981. ​ @cariwaldick4898 my notifications are messed up, sorry for the late reply.
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  10982. It's disgusting.
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  10983.  @HairOnScreen  just world fallacy.
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  10984.  @HairOnScreen  yes it does Mean you're entitled to one.
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  10985.  @HairOnScreen  no. I mean just because the world works a certain way now doesn't it HAS to work that way.
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  10986. It's because of their values. The American economy runs on poverty. conservatives see the glarest glimmer of rising worker power as a policy emergency. They use the whip of poverty, not the lure of higher wages, as the appropriate policy response.
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  10987. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not poverty, that we deem unacceptable.
    1
  10988. Wow
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  10989. Exactly
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  10990. You are.
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  10991. That's messed up.
    1
  10992. LOL don't republicans see housing prices now? Car prices? NOTHING is priced for people making minimum wage.
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  10993. Correct.
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  10994. ​ @Khalkara LOL.
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  10995. What you aren't seeing is the problem here is corporations wanting cheap labor. It's why corporations support immigration
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  10996. You can't get by on that, that's why so much is spent on welfare.
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  10997. Lol.
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  10998. I'm positive I'm incel.
    1
  10999. It isn't in NC.
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  11000.  @alwaysyouramanda  correct. You'd need free university too
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  11001. What republicans mean by this is they want to hide the fact capitalism requires poverty in order to thrive. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs or pay. Only the poor and unskilled do. If livable wages exist, if unions are strong, if welfare is robust, if medical debt is non-existent, Then people become less desperate, commanding higher wages.
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  11002.  @tessmonsta  my comments are deleted
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  11003. Conservatives hate the poor.
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  11004. @Ruhrohraggy23345  yeah my bad. I'll post my GoFundMe soon.
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  11005.  @Ruhrohraggy23345  I'll post my GoFundMe later.
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  11006. @erinmac4750  thank you. I won't give up.
    1
  11007. @Ruhrohraggy23345  I posted my GFM. I think it got deleted. Did you see it?
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  11008. @erinmac4750  thank you buddy. Your words help inspire me.
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  11009. @gianthills  okay.
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  11010.  @prettystreetchic  I have to get off of welfare.
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  11011. @Ruhrohraggy23345  i posted it but I think my GoFundMe was deleted. It's on my channel.
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  11012. @Ruhrohraggy23345  did you get it?
    1
  11013. ​ @Ruhrohraggy23345 I deleted my old one but my new one is on my YouTube channel.
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  11014. Yes. Correct.
    1
  11015. Nowhere.
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  11016. Automation is an acceptable risk
    1
  11017. ​Yep @letoast7480 
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  11018. I don't believe that. Stop giving all incels a bad name
    1
  11019. Yes.
    1
  11020. Wrong
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  11021.  @Gukworks  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills
    1
  11022.  @Gukworks  that doesn't justify poverty.
    1
  11023.  @Gukworks  kids don't deserve to live in poverty. Poor people can't bargain for higher wages.
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  11024.  @Gukworks  ok
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  11025. I've never kissed or had sex. I'm 29
    1
  11026. Because corporations don't want workers having freedom.
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  11027. Ok
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  11028. Background and Struggles: I’m 29 years old and have spent 10 years working towards a bachelor’s degree, but I’ve only completed 27 credits. Over the years, I’ve faced many obstacles, including my mom being sick for six years before passing away in 2023. During that time, I had to rely on welfare and Medicaid, but the system didn’t fully support me, especially when it came to caring for my mom. After she passed away, I lost housing and food stamps, which left me homeless and dependent on my dad for support. Academic Record: I currently have a 1.1 GPA with 89 attempted credits, 27 completed credits, and 15 transferable credits. I’ve been rejected from scholarships, my financial aid appeal was denied, and I couldn’t get work-study because I wasn’t eligible for financial aid. Right now, my grades are failing: I have a 79 in Brief Calculus, a 69 in Accounting, and a 41 in College Physics I. I’m not planning to study for the physics exam tomorrow and expect to fail it, just like I did on the first exam. Harsh Reality: If I don’t get at least Bs or As this semester, I’ll be kicked out of Wake Tech and lose my chance to transfer to NC State. At this point, I don’t feel like continuing school is worth it unless I can afford to do it without struggling financially. I would only continue with my education if I were financially independent. Decision to Quit: I’m seriously considering quitting everything related to my degree and education. I don’t want to continue facing poverty and academic failure. I’ve realized that unless I become financially free, I can’t keep pursuing school. I’m also not interested in becoming a screenwriter or journalist if it means quitting school, and I’d rather focus on finding financial stability through other means.
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  11029. Because the point of doing so is about enforcing punitive justice.
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  11030. I'm a poor college student. I can't be a reporter
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  11031.  @michaellin4230  so you are against employers being forced against their will but you are fine with employees being forced against their will? Hypocrite
    1
  11032. That sounds like wage suppression
    1
  11033. Yep
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  11034. Because the real reason conservatives oppose living wage is because their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  11035.  @HemiChrysler  I can't do that because I'm poor
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  11036.  @stevecarder3581  I was forced off of blue Cross blue shield and onto medicaid when medicaid was expanded, because I lost premium tax credit keeping my health insurance cheap. I can't afford to pay $1,000/month and a car too.
    1
  11037. Yes
    1
  11038. Yep
    1
  11039. Correct. But to rich people it's really about power.
    1
  11040. Yes
    1
  11041. @xRiddleMeThisYouTube  eliminating medicaid won't deter many poor people from having healthcare.
    1
  11042.  @irenewillis2969  ok
    1
  11043.  @MKR5210  jobs
    1
  11044. @jeffsteyn7174  yep
    1
  11045.  @07087joenj  lol
    1
  11046.  @jonnybravvo4282  ok
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  11047. ​ xRiddleMeThisYouTube you believe poor people are a burden?
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  11048. @xRiddleMeThisYouTube  welfare is restricted for poor people like myself, otherwise I'd be out of poverty right now but I'm not.
    1
  11049. Ok​ @WokeandProud 
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  11050. @WokeandProud  ok
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  11051. @vanesslifeygo  what's funny?
    1
  11052. ​ @thomasblackmon5722 thank you
    1
  11053. @zazaglamoure  yep
    1
  11054. @zazaglamoure  thank you
    1
  11055.  @goofywill90  ok
    1
  11056.  @nestout  okay
    1
  11057. That's messed up.
    1
  11058. It comes down to poor people having too good of lives.
    1
  11059.  @JohnWarner-lu8rq  yep.
    1
  11060. That's an acceptable risk.
    1
  11061. Then you find poverty acceptable.
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  11062.  @robertkleiman  1. Society prioritizes having lower costs over rising labor power 2. The government could eradicate poverty with more robust income support programs, if it was a true priority. 3. The core problem is corporations, politicians are secondary because they back corporations. 4. The core problem here(MW debate), is corporations want cheap labor. That is why they fight against the poor and for immigrants.
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  11063.  @robertkleiman  read Herbert gans functions of poverty. Poverty serves 13 functions within American society. The first, and biggest function of poverty, is to ensure society's dirty work gets done. Nobody works minimum wage jobs if everyone had wealth, skills, or both, so rich people and corporations have a vested interest in ensuring everyone cannot obtain these things, in order to force poor people to accept slave wages.
    1
  11064. $50.
    1
  11065.  @popo_53  right.
    1
  11066. Poverty is like women's suffrage: a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
    1
  11067. Wrong. I want a relationship. Just not with an ugly woman.
    1
  11068.  @ShyGuy83  good news/follow up: I'm taking a math class at a community College. 2. I'm in a mathematics-physics internship(at the same College). 3. I work as a cashier part-time at a grocery store. 1 year ago I was a NEET who just played video games and watched movies daily, so I've made alot of progress. Today I will email school to inquire about transportation assistance(i can't afford a car), employment assistance(work on campus that provides a living wage so i can quit working minimum wage), and if I can get both I'll do school full-time, get My degree, join or lead the math club, and do one city event a day for 30 consecutive days.
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  11069. ​ @DANIEL117nm  I'm too poor to afford a movie ticket, let alone that.
    1
  11070. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
    1
  11071. Even cashiers?
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  11072. So you think poor people don't deserve a living wage then. Just admit you don't find poverty to be wrong
    1
  11073. If you're poor, yes.
    1
  11074. My standards for women are zero and I'm still alone
    1
  11075. @Elektrikkiss  ok I will. I'm in community college now. I passed my classes, I'm taking 3 next semester. I'm applying to scholarships. I'm doing math volunteer work. I'm working on fitness and having a job.
    1
  11076. Correct. It's s systemic problem Schiff ignores.
    1
  11077. ​ @PandemoniumVice  exactly
    1
  11078. ​ @matthuck378 exactly.
    1
  11079. ​ @KevinThomas-ok2ev it can be in the constitution.
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  11080.  @KevinThomas-ok2ev  my replies are gone
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  11081. Yep. I'm a virgin at 28. I got 3 months before u turn 29.
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  11082. because he believes minimum wage workers deserve poverty. @russwilliams4678 
    1
  11083. he believes poor people don't deserve to make this much money. It is a moral issue to them. @russwilliams4678 
    1
  11084. ​@Elijah Ford’s Idiotic Variety Show he's lying.
    1
  11085. Yes. It's complete laziness. There is an only fans woman, who at 24, made $43 million in one year. She received a $4.7 million donation from one guy.
    1
  11086. Yes.
    1
  11087. Yep
    1
  11088.  @den-pm2my  yes
    1
  11089. Wow.
    1
  11090. ​ @benmohatun because there aren't enough good paying jobs or husbands to ensure all women can afford a family. Because women shouldn't be expected to not have kids or sex.
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  11091. Minimum wage jobs aren't for high school kids anymore but adults with kids to feed. There aren't enough well paying jobs to go around. Noone should have to do what you did to simply get by. That's also survivorship bias and just world fallacy.
    1
  11092. Whoa.
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  11093. Haha
    1
  11094. Ok.
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  11095. Disgusting.
    1
  11096. Won't solve the incel problem because incels feel entitled to sex.
    1
  11097. I'm not paying for sex
    1
  11098. Yes.
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  11099. ​ @grumpyoldman6503 thank you
    1
  11100. Poverty
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  11101. If they can't afford it, then too bad.
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  11102. Raising minimum wage would save about $106 billion a year from reduced welfare spending.
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  11103. You subscribe to just-world fallacy.
    1
  11104. Grocery stores have thin margins because consumers demand low prices, the government subsidizes essential grocery store supply chain industries, and snap benefits. It has nothing to do with the low wages they pay.
    1
  11105. Yep
    1
  11106. Who? Trevor Noah?
    1
  11107.  @austinbyrd1703  what?
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  11108. There's a problem with ubi, it would give workers power to reject dead-end jobs. You can't have worker solidarity exist, and poverty exist at once.
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  11109. @Edward Vasquez  I support you. But what I meant to say is this: The defining moments of American politics are based on our values. But our values are defined by where we draw the line. They lie in the risks we refuse to take. The consequences we don't want to tolerate. The prices we are unwilling to pay. It is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that politicians treat as the risk they refuse to accept.
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  11110. So is $10.50/hr.
    1
  11111. I'm hopeful
    1
  11112. Exactly
    1
  11113. Who is?​ @metalvideos1961 
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  11114. I'm on welfare while pursuing a Physics Degree. It's a stepping stone to getting a PhD in astrophysics. I want a full ride scholarship or grant to not need welfare.
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  11115. That's the neat part: they DON'T Inflation in groceries alone has made the supermarket I work at receive 75-78% of its sales from food stamps alone. Daily. Year round.
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  11116. I'm low income but I'm supported financially by my family. As a cashier a PS5 costs more than what I make working in 2 weeks. A video game now ($80) costs more than what I make working in a day.
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  11117. People only work there out of financial desperation, it's not like they work there and choose to be paid $11 an hour. And if you choose not to work there then you'll just be replaced by some other serf that'll work for low wages. The store has too much bargaining power, the government has to step in to mandate wages
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  11118.  @FreeBird_6791  It isn't my reason nor was I talking about myself. Do you honestly think someone who has $2.3 billion would work a minimum wage job that pays $10,000-$20,000 a year? And it's a minimum wage job, if you are alive you already have the skills to do the job.
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  11119.  @FreeBird_6791  Yes. The workers who generate all the profit for their owners and put their lives on the line, deserve a paltry $4 more an hour.
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  11120.  @FreeBird_6791  The government can and should mandate wages when employees don't have enough bargaining power to negotiate wages themselves.
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  11121. ​ @M123Xoxo  yep.
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  11122. No. How about flipping it. Politicians make minimum wage, the American worker makes 200k.
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  11123.  @1MistressWarrior007  I am incel.
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  11124. What if you literally get no attention from women on dating apps? What then?
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  11125.  @trishayamada807  yes.
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  11126.  @trishayamada807  i go to the movies every week.
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  11127.  @grmpEqweer  Yes.
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  11128.  @grmpEqweer  Watching Anime. Playing video games. Watching movies(my favorite genre is scifi). Astrophysics.
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  11129. Sure is. It's just. I got to take initiative
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  11130.  @grmpEqweer  thank you. I believe I will.
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  11131. Since you don't understand their mindset I'll explain it for you: Just-world fallacy and Calvinism. Just world fallacy: many people think poor people are lazy and don't work hard enough to earn government assistance. Calvinism: poor people don't work hard enough to earn a decent life, and deserve eternal punishment.
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  11132.  @thatjillgirl  because anyone who believes that nonsense isn't basing their judgement on logic but emotions and subjective ideas of right and wrong. They don't see the world as is. They see it as a perfect dream world where everything works out perfectly. To admit everything does not always work out is to imply human beings are not always in control. That is their biggest fear: to be afraid of the unknown.
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  11133. Hurtful to me. But it is true.
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  11134. ​ @ticenits1926  I'm still a virgin at 28. I'm not like that.
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  11135.  @ticenits1926  I was too lazy or too scared to have sex or a girlfriend. Now that I'm neither, I'm upset I've had the opportunity to lose my virginity but never took it.
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  11136. @Tice Nits  I only get a few matches, and most of my conversations are dry. I've had a few women review my profiles, and they say I simply don't have any personality.
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  11137. @Tice Nits  Here are the things I have going for myself: I am pursuing an associate of science degree. I am a visiting student at another university studying education. I am in an internship. I am a cashier. I am seeking independence and a scholarship. I have just attended a science conference for physics. I consider myself intelligent and ambitious.
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  11138.  @ticenits1926  I'm a real person. My channel has me on it. I...don't seem to upset anyone over my looks.
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  11139. @Tice Nits  thank you. I will. To be more specific, I'll Quitting my cashier job and focusing more on school. I was planning a trip to UNCW, the college I recently got accepted at as a visiting student.
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  11140. Yep.
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  11141. Yep.
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  11142. Fuck America.
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  11143. Everything, because you're implying poor people don't deserve government assistance. You're hating welfare because you believe you get nothing in return for the help you provide the poor.
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  11144. Google just-world fallacy
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  11145. Yep.
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  11146. Ok
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  11147. What they're really saying is mitigation of inflation is more important than workers having a living wage
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  11148. ​ @davidrichardson4131 yep
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  11149. Ok
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  11150. ​ @davidrichardson4131 yep
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  11151. @Matt Wolf  don't forget lack of benefits.
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  11152. Because GOP wants to perpetuate poverty.
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  11153. Because politicians and business leaders support Illegal immigration.
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  11154. Ok
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  11155. Not everyone has the freedom to do that
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  11156.  @kidxclusive  and go where? Welfare isn't robust, college is too expensive, everyone can't be promoted out of low wage jobs, there aren't enough high paying jobs available. 60% of Americans make, as a household, $75,000/year or less. There aren't all these career jobs lying around
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  11157.  @MichaelSmith-fj7di  they'd make the minimum wage $50/hr then.
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  11158. Everyone shouldn't be doctors
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  11159.  @christostefan  I know. I'm just saying the whole situation is messed up
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  11160. Yep
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  11161. Rent. But I want the minimum wage to be high enough to afford mortgages.
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  11162. I am feeling some pain in America. I work as a cashier at a supermarket, I make $10 an hour. Now if this was the 1950s that'd be fine but with homes and car prices now I can't afford to live on my own. I still live with my family. I can't stand watching Fox News because they bash minimum wage workers like myself calling me lazy. Yeah none of these Fox News or conservative pundits explain to me how working your way up on a minimum wage job gives you a 50-cent raise per year if that and that there are not enough jobs for all of us to move up to The truth of the matter is many entry-level jobs are dead end.
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  11163. That's evil
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  11164. ​​ @michaeld4861 hahaha
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  11165. ​@michaeld4861yep
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  11166. ​ @razorsedge64ify that's evil
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  11167. ​@Saber Wolves exactly. I make $10.50/hr in north carolina. Above $7.25/hr but still poverty level.
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  11168. ​ @rhubarb2301 wow
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  11169. Damn
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  11170. ​ @kingcatx2 epic
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  11171.  @AZrakoon  wait. So having sex or not having it doesn't determine my value? It isn't the end all be all to life?
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  11172.  @AZrakoon  2nd choice for me.
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  11173. I've been lazy, but I'm starting to grow up
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  11174. @86rakoon  It'd be too long explaining everything in text, but long story short: I made a bunch of mistakes in my life, blamed women, but have realized that I need to grow up and I'm changing my life day-by-day. I'm not angry. i'm just lonely and trying to figure things out.
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  11175. Fallacy of relative privation.
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  11176. I read that twice as a poor person and you're right.
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  11177. How would you change things?
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  11178. I'm 29. I'll search to date women ages 25-35.
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  11179. ​ @ashleybishop7248  Exactly.
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  11180. Who made you the arbiter of what others deserve?
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  11181. You can't buy intimacy
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  11182. Yes.
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  11183. Yep. And temp jobs are another thing/problem.
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  11184.  @fortheloveofnoise  oh okay.
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  11185. If you're rich.
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  11186. Yep.
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  11187. I have no trust in USA.
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  11188. 2 things to say here 1. The get better jobs argument rests on the real reason why conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage: their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn. they don't believe minimum wage workers deserve to have a decent life. If doctors demanded $15/hr these same conservatives would pass an $80/hr minimum wage then. 2. Inflation is a risk associated with workers gaining more bargaining power. People complain about inflation and unemployment from workers having more bargaining power. This reveals not America's love of poverty but rather the opposition to the inconveniences which would accompany poverty's elimination. The truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising working power, not continued poverty, that we find unacceptable.
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  11189.  @TheZombiemofo  exactly. He doesn't need or want food stamps.
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  11190.  @TheZombiemofo  I lost my food stamps due to the work requirements and food banks don't offer enough food. I have to rely on handouts from my dad.
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  11191.  @MrsRitchieBlackmore  yes. NC wants poverty wages by the millions.
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  11192. Which she can't afford.
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  11193. Calvinism is alive and well. You give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  11194. @Vivalaleta Godfrey  you can't because the reason poverty exists is because of values. Politicians value poverty existing because you can't have poverty and worker solidarity exist at once.
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  11195.  @vivalaleta  then we must change our values.
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  11196. I'm 30. I have to restart my associates degree in science after much hardship such as losing my mom. But I need to get this degree, go to university and get a physics degree at the bachelor's level. Then a PhD. Nothing would make me happier than to have a financial path forward to finish school and make something of myself- learn about dark matter, Antimatter, etc.
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  11197. ​ @YaYaPaBla you can't force women to not have kids
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  11198.  @bridgethikesandruns  The reason that that is the case with welfare and abortion is because the government believes poor women don't have a right to have children
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  11199.  @HeinzPudelLP  yes it's true. All states are also at-will, meaning employees can be fired at any time on the spot for no reason at all.
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  11200. Congress supports paying more money to the rich and paying less money to the poor.
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  11201. I'm on welfare and charity programs because community college is not free in USA.
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  11202. I cried reading that
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  11203.  @jasonlee8156  I'm atypical incel. I just want to lose my virginity.
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  11204. I live in NC, but I'm poor. Both parties ignore the poor, so I don't vote.
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  11205.  @matthewfusaro2590  do you think we could make college free?
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  11206. Yes
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  11207. Calvinism. The rich are blessed with success and the poor have been damned to eternal suffering.
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  11208. That's messed up
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  11209. That's messed up.
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  11210. Sodas used to be $0.75, not it's $2.13. Movie tickets are $17.
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  11211. She makes six figures now.
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  11212.  @MichaelTorres-b2v  I agree. I'm no economist either but I think Republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class. They'll bitch about paying cashiers $15/hr but not about CEOs making $15,000/hr. CEOs make more in one hour than what I make at $10/hr in a whole year. I'm not envious but you'd think Republicans wouldn't be upset at someone making $5 more an hour.
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  11213. ​ @terryk711  yep.
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  11214. Okay
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  11215. Correct. But that won't end the minimum wage debate because you aren't seeing the big picture. Republicans hate welfare because 1. They oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  11216. Yes. My replies are gone
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  11217. At least you get medicaid. In NC, our politicians denied medicaid expansion. Since I am "able-bodied," I don't qualify for medicaid.
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  11218. Idk.
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  11219. Correct.
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  11220. Of course
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  11221. As an incel I know I'm the problem.
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  11222. Wow.
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  11223. Wow
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  11224. It's called survivorship bias.
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  11225. And it is..
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  11226. that's 300k a year in California.
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  11227. Agreed.
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  11228. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  11229. He would be crying he's making too little.
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  11230. Thank you I make $10/hr ....
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  11231. 1.4 million for a business owner is fine but $32,000/yr for a worker is costly.
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  11232.  @Darkstarr-ud2go  it's fucked up.
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  11233.  @TechBrewGamer  what is LEO?
    1
  11234. Sounds good
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  11235. I'll be waiting for my nuclear powered car.
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  11236. ​ @danielmankinde1706  You're criticizing him for deciding what other people deserve but yet here you are deciding what other people deserve.
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  11237. Providing foreign aid but not troops is like cheating with the military- the U.S. doesn't want to fully win nor fully lose the war.
    1
  11238. Because college is unaffordable and decades of outsourcing, destroying labor unions, and stalling immigration reform have resulted in mainly service based jobs existing and low wage workers. Everyone must know that billionaires and doctors aren't accepting minimum wage pay.
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  11239. Everyone cannot obtain senior level positions
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  11240. What?
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  11241.  @HunterPhenomMakoy  no I mean why do conservatives believe in privatizing everything.
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  11242. Then accept it.
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  11243. It's messed up...
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  11244. What you aren't getting is the reason welfare isn't robust or permanent in the first place- because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. This is why politicians implement shitty welfare systems.
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  11245. Agreed.
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  11246. Yep​ @elgonzo7239 
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  11247. Republicans want poor people to fill minimum wage jobs
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  11248. They hate poor people becoming middle class, because then they won't work for slave wages
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  11249. because they see poverty as moral failing and to enrich corporations by enslaving people with debt.
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  11250. They believe rich people deserve more money and poor people deserve less.
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  11251. Wow
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  11252. it's a good thing poverty will take a smoke break in the meantime.
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  11253. Because?
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  11254. Ok
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  11255. I'm a virgin at 29
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  11256. Exactly.
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  11257.  @bipl8989  and in their place were service jobs.
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  11258.  @bipl8989  that's messed up too.
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  11259.  @bipl8989  I've realized that a living wage isn't like the weather, something we observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed our workers were entitled to a living wage, everyone would just have it.
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  11260.  @bipl8989  that's messed up. I don't understand why republicans hate poor people so much.
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  11261.  @bipl8989  Let's not forget the same people that tell people not to have a child on minimum wage, then when you do have a child they don't want you to abort it. And THEN they take away government funding that would help you take care of the child.
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  11262.  @westernnyliving2515  The minimum wage has never been a living wage for a single person let alone a family and prices have been going up anyway regardless
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  11263. Except republicans believe in just-world fallacy.
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  11264. So you're more upset over not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage, meaning you find poverty acceptable.
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  11265.  @sharper68  yes. I don't understand why though?
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  11266. What does that mean?
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  11267.  @scottpollard3270  okay
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  11268.  @muslimminarchist7026  Did you delete your 2nd response to me? Because I don't see it in this list.
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  11269.  @小小灵  true the money will never be recovered. It'd be a long-term loss. I'd still support canceling all student loan debt.
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  11270. Except the system is the problem.
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  11271.  @Grannyknockers  omfg. Let me give you an example. When women couldn't vote before the 19th amendment and the women complained about not having autonomy, would you call the women "lazy and entitled?" Would you tell the women they're the problem? They were dealing with a systemic problem, stop accepting society as the way it is.
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  11272. Sad.
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  11273. I think it should be very simple, a job is not counted as viable if you can't survive on its compensation. Every job must be a living wage job, so the worker working it is ineligible for welfare. And if you want to go beyond that, every job must be a thriving wage job, which means the workers would have no need to take on debt.
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  11274. It needs to be written down in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough to people from them to not be in poverty. Enough to live a healthy and humane life.
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  11275. Because politicians don't want to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  11276. I was working as a cashier at a supermarket. I made $10/hr. My raise was $0.50. I only worked 28 hours a week because at 32, I'd be eligible for health insurance. My internship paid me $900/semester, and I was taxed on top of that.
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  11277. Wtf
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  11278. No
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  11279. Yep.
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  11280. So you're saying you're fine with cashiers making enough to afford a car?
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  11281. Exactly.
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  11282. Exactly.
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  11283. ​ @UnrulyCosplayers LOL.
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  11284. ​ @UnrulyCosplayers fallacy of relative privation
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  11285. He doesn't
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  11286.  @chrlpolk  Because from the '70s to late '90s we outsourced / downsized/automated our manufacturing sector down to a barebones minimum and then its place were service sector jobs.
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  11287. So you'd be upset if cashiers made that much?
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  11288. I've been rejected over 8000 times on tinder alone...so yes..i am trying...
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  11289. I make $10/hour as a cashier. I can't afford that
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  11290. Yep
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  11291. As long as those things are scarce, they can't be rights.
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  11292. Holy crap
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  11293. I. Do. Understand
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  11294. Can't a mass spectrometer do this?
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  11295. Yep
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  11296. I'm a virgin at 28.
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  11297. ​ @QWERTY-gp8fd  okay
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  11298. I'm 29. Still a virgin.
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  11299.  @imisstoronto3121  Wal-Mart made $129 billion in profit last year, each store makes $100 million yearly...you think these workers would be making $250,000 a year....
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  11300. Not everyone can or should do that.
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  11301. The real reason welfare has work requirements exist is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  11302. ​ @assetproductions ok
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  11303. Yep​ @assetproductions 
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  11304. ​ @assetproductions exactly
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  11305. Exactly.
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  11306.  @chadgaston8615  they are the top 1% of men. Unless you are suggesting being a multi-millionaire A-list actor is commonplace.
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  11307.  @Opal5674  I'm incel because I've never dated.
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  11308. @Concubinial Succubi no I don't.
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  11309. Wow
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  11310. Lol.
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  11311. The poor already use violence.
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  11312.  @calvingreene90  long before biden this country became a low-wage nation.
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  11313.  @calvingreene90  You are using the fallacy of relative privation. Basically you're saying since the situation could be worse that means it can't be better or you should be thankful for the way things are now. By that logic that means if I said that women had the right to vote for 6 months of the year, if I told them I could reduce it to 3 weeks they should be grateful for the freedom they have now. They have no right to complain.
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  11314.  @calvingreene90  You missed my entire point. I'm not justifying violence but I'm saying poverty is terrible.
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  11315.  @calvingreene90  yes income inequality is acceptable. The current level of inequality is not.
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  11316.  @idontagree9658  yep.
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  11317. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. I've never dated either.
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  11318. Correct.
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  11319. How do you determine the value of labor?
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  11320. i agree.
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  11321. Ok
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  11322. Rich people tend to lack empathy.
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  11323. If you're poor or a NEET past age 25 like me, most women don't want to sleep with you.
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  11324. Y​ep
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  11325. Because you and Farron cousins fail to realize something. Politicians are presented with a very simple choice: you can have worker solidarity exist or you can have poverty but you cannot have both. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our government treats as the risk they refuse to allow.
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  11326. Beautiful ​ @longcorridors 
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  11327. That's called profit sharing
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  11328. Exactly.
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  11329.  @crimony3054  communism works in Star Trek.
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  11330. ​ @bendyrland7213 exactly.
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  11331. ​ @c123-i6n that's messed up.
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  11332.  @manfredschmalbach9023  it's messed up, yes. It would require poor people like myself to run for office, which I can't do because I'm poor. I don't vote because politicians care only about the middle class and rich, not the poor.
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  11333.  @therecalcitrantseditionist3613  my replies are deleted
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  11334.  @joejohnstone3921  And that's bad because?
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  11335.  @icestationzebraassociates2460  poor people running for office, not the rich
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  11336.  @Baconmonster723  1. Enough money to keep a family above poverty level working full-time is a measurable quantity.
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  11337. Millions.
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  11338. My utopia would involve eliminating scarcity. Like in Star Trek
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  11339. Or everyone having the same ideology
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  11340.  @0ld_Scratch  why not? i believe we can all get along if we wanted to.
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  11341. White collar crime causes far more harm.
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  11342. Exactly.
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  11343. Yep
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  11344. I purchased car insurance. Then I'll get my driver's license.
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  11345. The bubble would cause extreme gravitational lensing. The negative matter behind the ship would cause divergent gravitational lensing. At or beyond light speed you couldn't see inside the bubble
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  11346.  @armchairrocketscientist4934  you're asking two question then, what you would see inside the ship(as a warp drive user) and what an external Observer would see. If the ship is traveling slower than the speed of light, and you are inside the ship, you could see outside, although the extreme spatial distortions would warp incoming radiation and energize matter-it would be a very hazardous experience and you would be killed without radiation shielding.( if you were looking in front of the ship, then the contraction of space would blue shift radiation up to the gamma-ray Spectrum and kill you. Behind the ship, the negative gravitational energy would red shift radiation, so you would be safe since mostly microwaves with interact with you. If you were looking at the ship while it was moving outside, this ship would be warped, although it depends what stars it's passing by which would determine the spectrum of radiation that would be blue shifted and red shifted. When radiation interacts with a gravitational field, the radiation would either blue shift or red shift, increasing or decreasing in frequency and Photon energy.
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  11347.  @armchairrocketscientist4934  if the ship is passing by a planet, that planet will look like it's interacting with a black hole due to the extreme gravitational lensing caused by the bubble itself.
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  11348.  @armchairrocketscientist4934  if you are inside the warp field, and you travel at or past light-speed. At Lightspeed you would see nothing because the matter and radiation external, or outside the warp bubble, will not travel fast enough to reach you.
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  11349.  @armchairrocketscientist4934  and if you were to travel faster than light speed, then no one knows. The reason is because if you were to travel faster than light with a gravitational field produced by warp drive, you would need a theory of quantum gravity to understand what would happen( you are dealing with strong gravitational fields that are comparable in strength to the other fundamental forces, and you're also dealing with the Planck scale).
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  11350.  @armchairrocketscientist4934  physicists have speculated that if you were to travel faster than light with the warp Drive, in front of you a black hole would form infinitely blue shifting radiation, and behind you a white hole would form which would instantly reach the Planck temperature(10e32 Kelvin)and flood your body with gamma rays-both of which would kill you instantly. Also as you're traveling through space these extreme spatial distortions will sweep up incoming matter and energy and energize them to such extreme temperatures that it might destabilize the warp bubble itself.
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  11351. There's a video of it
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  11352.  @danieljensen2626  if you travel faster than light, you are time traveling to the Past by some external Observer. So a warp drive does violate causality.
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  11353.  @FiveDallaHalla  the space around you is moving faster than light, all matter embedded within the space is being carried along and not moving faster than my within its own reference frame.
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  11354.  @FiveDallaHalla  for example if you wanted to go to the Moon, you would contract space in front of you, pulling the Moon closer, and expand space behind you, pushing the Earth away from you. The space around you, the geometry of space is changing and producing motion, but you are not
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  11355.  @danieljensen2626  I know that's what I said....
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  11356. ​ @Raptor-y9f yep
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  11357. Oh ok
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  11358. That's even worse.
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  11359. Yep​ @ridjenite 
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  11360. Messed up.
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  11361. Evil
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  11362. The hard truth is I'm not willing to go to school anymore- I don't have straight As right now and won't anytime soon unless I escape poverty right now without anymore hardships. I've lost both my mom and 20s. And if I have to work at a supermarket again and get a crappy car, then I've lost both for nothing since that's a tacit admission I have to pick up from life where I left off at life 10 years ago. I have no food stamps, section 8 housing, Pell grants or scholarships. My financial aid appeal was denied, leaving me with needing 90 credits to get it back and shut out of federal work-study jobs. I can't work in person at community college anyway without a car. Even if I had an associate's degree today, if I was still poor with my track record, it would take me another 12 years to get a bachelor's degree.
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  11363. It happened in California because Newsom caved to political pressure. The general overall minimum wage increase was scrapped.
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  11364. They can, but workers are paid based on skill, not profitability. But profit-sharing is opposed by corporations.
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  11365.  @JagNavBrett  after all. What nuclear engineer or doctor would be a cashier?
    1
  11366.  @emil1989  exactly
    1
  11367. The reason Republicans are willing to spend more on welfare restrictions than it saves is because they don't care about the cost- They want to see poor people that they don't like suffer.
    1
  11368. That hurt my feelings.
    1
  11369. Fairy tale thinking
    1
  11370. I am obsessed with losing my virginity. I think about it daily.
    1
  11371. I've turned 29. 29. Why won't women take my virginity?
    1
  11372. Too much for "unskilled workers." A doctor making $50/hr is making too little. A cashier making $50/hr is making too much.
    1
  11373. @Johanna Geisel  Meaning i've never held a girl's hands i've never hugged i've never kissed, and i've never had sex
    1
  11374.  @usefulrandom1855  I'm aware. That doesn't change what I said.
    1
  11375.  @jmca_power  oh okay.
    1
  11376. Damn.
    1
  11377. Conservatives believe unskilled workers deserve poverty
    1
  11378. Correct.
    1
  11379. I agree.
    1
  11380. I'm an incel.
    1
  11381. Yep.
    1
  11382. Yes
    1
  11383. Because now there's no longer a risk of losing the investment.
    1
  11384. Yep.
    1
  11385. Yes.
    1
  11386. Wow
    1
  11387. Disgusting.
    1
  11388. That won't help incels because you can't buy intimacy or affection
    1
  11389.  @Kronic1Chillz  I'm a kissless virgin at 29.
    1
  11390.  @Kronic1Chillz  why should I go to la?
    1
  11391.  @Kronic1Chillz  I haven't had sex with any woman and I'm nearly thirty
    1
  11392. Free college doesn't exist nor does free community college.
    1
  11393. The government is supposed to cater to your needs....
    1
  11394.  @Saberwolves84  correct.
    1
  11395.  @Saberwolves84  people move the goal post to avoid saying cashiers don't deserve money
    1
  11396. If McDonald's and chic fil a paid workers according to the sales made and not skill these cashiers would make around $100,000 a year.
    1
  11397.  @jonw1235  would you be upset if fast food workers made that much?
    1
  11398.  @jonw1235  okay.
    1
  11399. I want a $45/ hr minimum wage. And a maximum wage no more than 6x the minimum wage
    1
  11400.  @nickthompson1812  and considering how much money McDonald's makes paying $14 an hour is Criminal.
    1
  11401. Nope
    1
  11402. ​@Candice miller it's sad that people believe fast food workers don't deserve decent pay.
    1
  11403. He serves the rich.
    1
  11404. Wrong. Conservatives dislike poverty but they dislike ending poverty more because to them the solution is worse than the problem. Helping the poor become better off is rewarding failure in their eyes.
    1
  11405. Yes.
    1
  11406. Evil.
    1
  11407.  @everythingmatters6308  yeah. I wish I had a scholarship.
    1
  11408. Yes
    1
  11409.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  okay.
    1
  11410.  @vitawaterplz  okay then
    1
  11411.  @pragmatic111  thanks
    1
  11412.  @lisettegarcia  what is FJB?
    1
  11413. @Right-WingLawEnforcement  why am I a loser?
    1
  11414.  @WhatyourAncestorsknew  because there are too many poor people in the world
    1
  11415.  @marlo2853  corporations are the problem, not illegal immigrants. Corporations hate welfare and love immigration because they want poor people and desperate workers.
    1
  11416.  @lisettegarcia  poor people have too many kids
    1
  11417.  @tjmedia2  okay
    1
  11418. @NikoBelic4  trade school is community college.....
    1
  11419. @RobertEncinas-f5r  david who?
    1
  11420. Yep.
    1
  11421. In North carolina. Medicaid expansion denied, so I'm 28 years old and poor, but I can not get Medicaid. Because I have no kids or disabilities.
    1
  11422. Because it's an admission poverty is a policy choice.
    1
  11423. thank you sister!
    1
  11424. Daniel fountain he lost the popular vote
    1
  11425. I have 0 standards on dating apps and get 0 attention but gays and females get all the attention in the world.
    1
  11426.  @nobodyimportant7804  okay.
    1
  11427. ​ @gregmark1688 this
    1
  11428. Epic.
    1
  11429. I cried from sadness reading this.
    1
  11430. That is exactly why UBI doesn't exist: because poor people will have too much bargaining power.
    1
  11431. Correct but they aren't federal workers so biden can't raise their wages.
    1
  11432. Imagine making $15k a year with the POTUS making $400k a year.
    1
  11433. Yep
    1
  11434. It's funny they never consult the people receiving poverty wages on what the minimum wage should be.
    1
  11435. I'm crying laughing
    1
  11436. Then you want poverty
    1
  11437. No. I want to have sex with a woman, not a toy
    1
  11438. ​ @rickybobby5153 no.
    1
  11439. It's like a superhero story.
    1
  11440. You're right. Both parties support this. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs, so politicians restrict welfare to coerce poor people into minimum wage jobs.
    1
  11441. Epic.
    1
  11442. Not without unions due to inequality of bargaining power.
    1
  11443.  @darrylcampbell4426  Idk.
    1
  11444.  @darrylcampbell4426  It's just sad the government will always do action for the rich but inaction for the poor. We can give 700 billion to the military but we can't give half of that to Housing and Urban Development. We can give 4.5 trillion to Wall Street in one week but we can't eradicate student loan debt or end homelessness.
    1
  11445. I can make that video
    1
  11446. Usa spends so much on poverty that if it gave that money directly to all poor families equally it'd equal $273k per year...
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  11447. Even if everyone wanted to, there are not enough higher paying jobs for everyone. This is what boot strappers like yourself don't understand.
    1
  11448. Because an Incel's problem isn't lack of sex it's entitlement to women.
    1
  11449. ​ @meandyouagainstthealgorithm  How can the algorithm suppress a video that much?
    1
  11450.  @meandyouagainstthealgorithm  that's messed up. I remember Secular Talk videos used to get 200k views, now it's hardly 50k. He used to gain 12 to 20,000 subscribers a month, now he doesn't even gain 1,000.
    1
  11451. You're missing her core message: government help for the poor is "undeserving" Government help for the rich is "earned"
    1
  11452. Write this in the constitution as well.
    1
  11453. Same
    1
  11454. Banks are already welfare queens since they are large from there being no practical upper limit on acquistions or mergers.
    1
  11455.  @snoozy04  that's his thought process.
    1
  11456.  @goldilox369  i feel like conservatives put the rich on a different pedestal.
    1
  11457. Exactly.
    1
  11458. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Without welfare to fall back on, poor people will be forced to accept jobs that put them in poverty or debt
    1
  11459. In a country worth over $47 trillion.
    1
  11460. Poor people are not to blame
    1
  11461. Yep.
    1
  11462. If I was awarded $14.7 million of scholarships, how would you feel?
    1
  11463. Exactly ​ @Twitch_Fox 
    1
  11464. If you want that to change then demand corporations pay more for American labor.
    1
  11465. I didn't get debt wiped out.
    1
  11466. Right.
    1
  11467. It's evil
    1
  11468. ​ @vanessasmith6925 yes.
    1
  11469. I am feeling some pain in America. I work as a cashier at a supermarket, I make $10 an hour. Now if this was the 1950s that'd be fine but with homes and car prices now I can't afford to live on my own. I still live with my family. I can't stand watching Fox News because they bash minimum wage workers like myself calling me lazy. Yeah none of these Fox News or conservative pundits explain to me how working your way up on a minimum wage job gives you a 50-cent raise per year if that and that there are not enough jobs for all of us to move up to The truth of the matter is many entry-level jobs are dead end.
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  11470. I believe poverty is a policy choice.
    1
  11471. @Jack McCabe maximized how?
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  11472. Then you refuse to accept the risks associated with ending poverty.
    1
  11473. So in essence you're saying you opposed raising the minimum wage because then the poor will have a higher standard of living and the middle class will have a lower comparative advantage?
    1
  11474. How about you want a pay raise for both the poor and middle class?
    1
  11475. But I'm a virgin and it's women's fault.
    1
  11476. Even me? A cashier?
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  11477. @aaz1992  I agree with you. But i also don't think you understood my point. Certain things can be and are entitlements, regardless of the state of the economy. Like women's suffrage/19th amendment. It's about priorities. It's about what we value the most. If our political and corporate leaders truly thought poverty was unacceptable, they'd have robust welfare support programs in place to abolish it. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
    1
  11478. @blackmage471  then I'd have all the power. Then, I wouldn't live in poverty.
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  11479. @blackmage471  Last spring, I was doing 3 different classes at 2 different colleges at once, working as a cashier at a supermarket, being an intern, volunteering, and taking care of my sick mom. All at once.
    1
  11480. Because those people are Calvinist.
    1
  11481.  @julesdalli9716  that's EVEN WORSE.
    1
  11482. @mystman7722  it's called fallacy of relative privation.
    1
  11483. Wow.
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  11484. Correct.
    1
  11485. ​ @DLeo14 yep
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  11486. ​ @DLeo14 I will try
    1
  11487. You're right. I'm going to community college at 29 but I'm poor/unemployed.
    1
  11488. I have no car either.
    1
  11489.  @SFHFWill  all righty. I'll get to work.
    1
  11490.  @SFHFWill  I'll take 3 classes over summer, four next fall, improve my diet, get exams, then get a gym membership and go four times a week.
    1
  11491. Yep.
    1
  11492. Unions allow workers to be paid more than their skills would allow them to negotiate on their own. Higher profit sharing, too. Places like Chick-fil-A make millions of dollars at each location annually. They could afford to pay their cashiers around $100,000/year.
    1
  11493.  @elgonzo7239  I can't view my posts when I post quickly
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  11494. ​ @peternennig3408 beautiful
    1
  11495.  @marc21256  that would help cashiers, not doctors
    1
  11496. If there was profit sharing that distributed income downwards these workers would make around $100,000/yr.
    1
  11497. Conservatives oppose poor people escaping poverty through any policy choices.
    1
  11498. Yep
    1
  11499. Exactly
    1
  11500. I made $10 an hour starting out as a cashier and got a 50-cent raise.
    1
  11501. So it's your right to tell poor people what they deserve to make?
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  11502. ​ @syedmahdi82 wow
    1
  11503. Because he believes only rich people deserve government help.
    1
  11504. The point is to screw over anyone who isn't rich.
    1
  11505. Lol​ @notanotherone5564 
    1
  11506. Wow
    1
  11507. Yep.
    1
  11508. I'm attending community College.
    1
  11509. I want to lose my virginity
    1
  11510.  @jamesedwards.1069  wow.
    1
  11511. @jamesedwards.1069  I won't lose hope
    1
  11512. Profit
    1
  11513. ​ @amorepsyche808 that was hurtful to read.
    1
  11514. ​ @amorepsyche808 I want to lose my virginity.
    1
  11515. That's the point
    1
  11516. Jesus.
    1
  11517. I don't know.
    1
  11518.  @analienfromouterspace  wow.
    1
  11519. Correct.
    1
  11520. It's a double standard.
    1
  11521. Sounds like you're heartless.
    1
  11522.  @Rockhound6165  lack of compassion is what you have. Your taxes pay for the police and military. Your taxes already pay to ensure the well-being of others.
    1
  11523. That's horrible
    1
  11524. Yep.
    1
  11525.  @UnknownUser-ej8tk  no 25 isn't too much. Especially not in the wealthiest country in the world
    1
  11526.  @patricksaxon3983  why not $40? Sounds like less reliance on welfare to me.
    1
  11527. @Vin Dusel  I'll tell you what this is really about. It's about just-world fallacy. Republicans believe rich people and business owners have "succeeded" in the "system that works," so when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out by the government due to their success. Whereas poor people have "failed" so any government help they receive is a "hand out."
    1
  11528. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills Not everyone can be promoted out of a low wage job.
    1
  11529. Exactly.
    1
  11530. no it doesn't.
    1
  11531. Politicians need compassion
    1
  11532. When conservatives say work incentives, what they really mean is that the income grant pays more than minimum wage work.
    1
  11533. Why?
    1
  11534.  @1987BillyBob  thank you for your response. 1. Not everyone can move up 2. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills 3. Businesses already cut hours to save money. When I worked at a supermarket, I made $10.50/hr and worked only 28 hours a week. Because if I worked 32 hours a week for three weeks straight, I'd be eligible for health insurance. The real source of the minimum wage debate is this: 1. Corporations want cheap labor 2. Rich people like Jesse want poverty to exist in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs 3. Many conservatives believe minimum wage workers don't deserve a living wage/to be middle class. This truly isn't about tax hikes or unemployment at all.
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  11535.  @1987BillyBob  1. Okay, I disagree but I'm glad you have told me this point 2. I don't mean those skills, I mean "hard" skills that increase your salary, being level of education and responsibility. Being a cashier never increases either, which is why their wage never increases without outside pressure. 3. Again, the point is cheap labor. Fast food jobs pay minimum wage, and offer zero benefits or chance for advancement. To me, this is a dead end job. Corporations aren't going to pay janitors $60/hr or offer health insurance, even if Walmart made trillions of dollars per second. 3b. Illegal mmigration is supported by corporations because immigrants are workers who can't afford to argue and will work very hard for very low pay. 4. It is upsetting that people admit fast food jobs are dead-end but also want these jobs to be filled. 5. Trump cut welfare, he would've cut it further had it not been for Democrats. 6. Republicans and Democrats want poverty for one simple reason: it helps ensure society's dirty work gets done(ie. Minimum wage jobs). Nobody works such jobs if everyone was wealthy or had hard skills(like a medical degree)
    1
  11536.  @1987BillyBob  last but not least: living wage: what keeps a single person above the poverty line, at minimum. MIT has a calculator that lists a living wage for every city, county, and state in the entire country. It's a simple calculation.
    1
  11537. I can't see replies but I hope you see mine. Long story short these jobs exist because there is a demand for them. And everyone cannot increase their skills, I don't care what Jesse says.
    1
  11538.  @OccidentalAryan  okay.
    1
  11539.  @OccidentalAryan  but most men don't use escorts. How is that fair?
    1
  11540. ​ @melgibson7313 yep.
    1
  11541. You're an other wallet warrior
    1
  11542. The poverty threshold needs to be redefined. The poor people campaign estimates the poverty rate at close to half the country: 43% of the population, or 140 million people, are poor or low income.
    1
  11543. It's about Equivalent Exchange, getting what you deserve. In Her Eyes, the rich should receive everything because they provide everything, while the poor should receive nothing because they provide nothing.
    1
  11544. Yep
    1
  11545. I'm taking responsibility for my life. It hasn't helped me get laid since I'm still broke and living at home.
    1
  11546.  @rayy__7630  a hooker wants to sleep with me because of money, not because she likes me.
    1
  11547. Not really
    1
  11548. It isn't greed. It's power. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
    1
  11549. I need food stamps and medicaid
    1
  11550. Ok
    1
  11551. Not if you want to become a professor like myself.
    1
  11552. I agree with you. The problem is core republican ideology is that people only deserve to live if they work and if they work hard. It's about meritocracy to them.
    1
  11553.  @thendsufi  the just work hard belief is a classic example of the just-world fallacy.
    1
  11554. It's an ideological problem
    1
  11555. Oh wow.
    1
  11556. Yes, but read Herbert gans functions of poverty.
    1
  11557. ​@brandonb.5304 by using able-bodied, he's implying poor people don't deserve the help
    1
  11558. ​​ @brandonb.5304 because his deeper argument is that poor people are lazy. It's the able-bodied.
    1
  11559. correct. 900k college students lost food stamps such as myself due to covid era programs ending.
    1
  11560. Lol.
    1
  11561. Many politicians and the rich believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  11562.  @kidamnesiak1  it's so people can buy into the myth of meritocracy and to justify how capitalism creates and sustains poverty
    1
  11563.  @kidamnesiak1  I live in a state that's minimum wage is 7.25 an hour but then our politicians complain about so many people needing welfare benefits who work... Maybe it's because you allow people to make an average $18 an hour
    1
  11564.  @kidamnesiak1  I agree, poverty shaming is very bad. Republicans oppose spending money on welfare which people rely on because they don't make enough money from their jobs, but they don't want to raise people's wages either criticizing them saying they make too much. The argument breaks down in that Loop. Then Republicans are also opposing free college calling these people commies.
    1
  11565. And poor people can donate nothing. It's messed up that poor people make up 44% of the population but aren't in Congrees.
    1
  11566. wow.
    1
  11567. Yeah no country has a grocery bagger that can afford a house, car, and family.
    1
  11568. That's messed up
    1
  11569. It's happening in NC
    1
  11570. I agree.
    1
  11571. Change that. Many workers are kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits.
    1
  11572.  @JohnA...  I'm saying simply modify your request. Any job. Must pay a living wage. No exceptions. Because rich people and corporations screw over workers by having part-time jobs, contract/temp jobs, changing the definition of full-time, and/or offering unaffordable health care.
    1
  11573. I'll answer you: $1,500 without insurance
    1
  11574. I live in the USA. because I'm kept part-time, I'm not eligible to receive health insurance from my job. Because I'm over 25 years old, and have no kids or disabilities, i am not eligible to receive medicaid, so I'm stuck having to pay for health insurance on my own. The main plan is fifty-one dollars per month. But it doesn't cover dental or vision, and I have to purchase a separate plan for both. and then turn right around and pay hundreds of dollars more for glasses.
    1
  11575. I'd make 10.50 an hour. I cannot afford insurance.
    1
  11576. Correct.
    1
  11577. What is 3M?
    1
  11578. Just-world fallacy.
    1
  11579. That's messed up
    1
  11580. Do Republicans play stupid or are they actually stupid?
    1
  11581.  @SapientGalaxy  what these conservatives are really saying is they want wage slaves
    1
  11582. ​ @Underfighter73 ROFL
    1
  11583. This really happened?
    1
  11584. With my academic record I've decided to quit community college. My mom died in sickness and poverty, and i lost both section 8 housing and food stamps. My pell grants appeal was denied. I have no job or car. I still don't have an associate degree and no chance of transferring to university.
    1
  11585. Amazing!
    1
  11586. They can't.
    1
  11587. Politicians can end poverty. They simply choose not to. they don't prioritize it.
    1
  11588. ​ @jb1996  I'm a virgin at 28. I've never kissed anyone either. I've been honest with many women about me wanting to lose my virginity
    1
  11589. ​ @jb1996  it never works
    1
  11590. Worth is subjective.
    1
  11591. Rich people treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable. Deep down America has poverty because it chooses to. Not because it has to.
    1
  11592. To force poor and disabled people into poverty and death
    1
  11593. Exactly.
    1
  11594. Yes
    1
  11595. Wow
    1
  11596. ​ @kahanakahuna1470 the poverty rate has gone up, not down.
    1
  11597. That'd make the minimum wage even higher. With just a 3% inflation adjustment per year from 1980 to 2020, a minimum wage would be around $45/hr now.
    1
  11598. Correct.
    1
  11599. Wow
    1
  11600. Prostitutes don't offer genuine affection.
    1
  11601. 5.15 is literal pennies....
    1
  11602. I'll talk about it
    1
  11603. That's messed up
    1
  11604. Correct.
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  11605. Yep Rich people go to private schools, poor people become wage slaves or join the military.
    1
  11606. ​ @waynethompson1115  kids don't deserve poverty either.
    1
  11607. You don't have the right to tell poor people what to do.
    1
  11608.  @waynethompson1115  your exact words "burger flippers aren't worth $20/hr." So yes, you are deciding for other people how much money they deserve to make.
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  11609.  @waynethompson1115  okay but minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Whether children or adults take the minimum wage jobs doesn't change the fact that these jobs teach you nothing. They lead to nowhere.
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  11610.  @waynethompson1115  being a news anchor and actor are both jobs 16 year olds can do, and have done, but nobody demeans these workers making a living wage, let alone millions of dollars a year.
    1
  11611.  @waynethompson1115  ok. That's one of the two things I'm working on, the other being a bachelor's degree in physics.
    1
  11612.  @waynethompson1115  okay I'll move up and on from fast food jobs.
    1
  11613.  @waynethompson1115  so actors making $100 million doesn't bother you? But cashiers making the same does? It isn't about money. People look down on minimum wage workers for whatever reason.
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  11614.  @waynethompson1115  that isn't what I asked you but okay.
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  11615.  @waynethompson1115  I understand. What I'm trying to get you to see is the real reason many people hate a living wage minimum wage is because they believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money. Also, in economics all priorities are not created equal. If ending poverty was the top priority, then magnified inflation and unemployment would be prices you would be willing to pay. You don't want to pay these prices. Therefore, ending poverty isn't a top priority.
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  11616.  @waynethompson1115  okay we'll agree to disagree
    1
  11617. Welfare is objectively better than dogshit minimum wage jobs, so politicians restrict the supply of the former to provide the supply for the latter.
    1
  11618. Correct.
    1
  11619. I'd tax corporations 5x the amount spent on welfare.
    1
  11620. Yep
    1
  11621. Epic. Tinder doesn't work
    1
  11622. ​ @ontherunjg exactly
    1
  11623.  @DeetotheDubs  exactly.
    1
  11624. that is messed up.
    1
  11625. It's to punish poor people for having bargaining power
    1
  11626.  @Arltratlo  I exempt myself from voting
    1
  11627. I'm 29 and a virgin. My standards for women are zero.
    1
  11628. ​ @gyandevi3361  he believes in just-world fallacy
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  11629. Because poor people can't afford to run for office.
    1
  11630. Because people believe those who are unable to work are worthless
    1
  11631. Poverty shouldn't be a barrier to affording either.
    1
  11632. Yep.
    1
  11633. How does someone with no job or kids prosper according to Kamala Harris?
    1
  11634. That won't abolish low wage jobs
    1
  11635. Yep
    1
  11636. What if I won $9 million dollars of scholarship awards to pay for college?
    1
  11637. I'm studying physics.
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  11638.  @toddfarkman2177  most high paying jobs require some level of post-secondary education. There are many trade jobs, but not everyone can be a trade worker, just like not everyone can be a physicist. The path I desire is to become a physicist, which will require, in essence, 4 physics degrees: one at the associate's level, then bachelor's level, then master's, then PhD, then many more years of training after that. Me having just a high school diploma is simply not feasible to earn such a career.
    1
  11639.  @toddfarkman2177  i desire to do this because i have a passion for science, not the money. I know physicists don't make that much, certainly not compared to the amount of studying involved. My point was i don't desire tuition free college because i want to party or pursue "women's studies." If i was offered winning lottery numbers in exchange for abandoning physics, i wouldn't accept the numbers.
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  11640.  @toddfarkman2177  a physicist teaches and/or does research. I want to teach, it's a pipe dream, but i want to solve quantum gravity as well. Or dark matter/q balls/baryon asymmetry.
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  11641.  @toddfarkman2177  i just got the 2nd comment about the 27%. Like i said, employers use having a degree as a filter. There aren't enough jobs to fill the gap, that has to do employers though.
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  11642. @toddfarkman2177  Wow. Not to mention, if you had gotten the PhD, you would have had to spend even more years training. I'm glad you found your passion.
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  11643. Except factory jobs in the 70s required only a high school diploma. That pay changed thanks to union busting.
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  11644. And our government refuses to implement free college and trade schools.
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  11645.  @rickwrites2612  yep
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  11646.  @auroraeclipse18  exactly
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  11647.  @RabidDisposition  exactly
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  11648.  @MyRamblingRose86  yes.
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  11649. Conservatives tend to subscribe to just-world fallacy and survivorship bias to avoid acknowledging systemic problems. Because admitting there are systemic problems is admitting individual effort can only get you so far.
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  11650. Living wage= enough for the worker to not be in poverty.
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  11651.  @jeffk464  he doesn't want unskilled workers to be financially well off.
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  11652. These conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty
    1
  11653. Yes
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  11654. ​ @ilovecoffeev  being an incel is a choice? As an incel myself I agree with you. I really have nothing to offer women, I'm boring. I have no personality. Since 2017 to today I have been trying to lose my virginity and I have failed time and time again.
    1
  11655. ​ @DustyJones1997BGCL  an escort doesn't like me. I want to be able to get laid with a woman who likes me
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  11656. ​ @James.99  I'm a virgin at 28. Using a hooker confirms I'm unlovable.
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  11657.  @James.99  doesn't using a hooker make me a criminal to you? Like a rapist?
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  11658.  @James.99  okay. Some Women said I'd be a rapist and monster for using a prostitute.
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  11659.  @James.99  I would never do that. I'm saying some women told me that if I can't get sex for free then there's something wrong with me as a man.
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  11660. That's messed up
    1
  11661. Ok
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  11662.  @muskyoxes  because politicians don't believe unskilled workers deserve to be rich.
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  11663. Read family assistance plan and Richard Nixon. The reason welfare has work requirements is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  11664. I'm an incel and happy for the guy.
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  11665. Wrong.
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  11666. They want women to control
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  11667. Yep
    1
  11668. Yes
    1
  11669. Except most doctors don't accept Medicaid.
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  11670. The real reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  11671. Because the work requirements don't help the impoverished.
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  11672.  @ToniGeiselman  most poor people already work. Their wages are just crap. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  11673. Yep
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  11674. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  11675. Most poor people already work The problem is low paying jobs, not welfare
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  11676. He'd hate it with every fiber of his being. He'd probably cry and quit.
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  11677. Same.
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  11678. ​ @SeanHenderson-gn8if  except there's massive poverty. So, yes. People are forced into terrible jobs.
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  11679. Disgusting.
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  11680. Times have changed. Poverty has not.
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  11681. Yep
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  11682. One portfolio managers make billions and two a top MARGINAL tax rate.
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  11683. Trade schools aren't free either.
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  11684. Trade school costs money even with financial aid. If you're making only minimum wage, you can't support yourself and go to school.
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  11685. I make $10.50/hr and work part-time so I'm ineligible for benefits.
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  11686. Both
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  11687. When it comes to helping the poor.
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  11688. You're wrong. You're misunderstanding something. Republicans don't believe all workers deserve to be middle class. They believe some workers deserve to be poor, some rich, some in between. A CEO making 50 million a year is fine but a waiter making 30,000 a year is making too much.
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  11689. What prosperity? Half the country is poor or low-income. Trump cut welfare.
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  11690. Yeah it won't help.
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  11691. Haha.
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  11692. Because conservatives believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn
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  11693. Good comparison. Wall street workers make money from an economy rigged for them, where as minimum wage earners make nothing from an economy rigged against them.
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  11694.  @thecommonsenseconservative5576  what does that have to do with what I said.
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  11695. Correct.
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  11696.  @waynejohanson1083  and I wouldn't be upset. Would you?
    1
  11697. Wow....
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  11698. That's depressing.
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  11699. Okay. And?
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  11700. Unionizing serves no purpose. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier, receive no benefits or chance for advancement. I can't afford college, and I need low income assistance concerning medical care to get by.
    1
  11701. Exactly
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  11702. The government views disabled people as a burden and should be pushed into poverty until they give up.
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  11703.  @moe433  nice trolling.
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  11704.  @moe433  Okay buddy. Believe whatever you want.
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  11705. ​ @jackcarraway4707  he opposes a living wage as a moral issue: his ethical code says it's not morally right to pay people more than their low level abilities entitle them to earn
    1
  11706. ​ @russtemuka9849 he believes poor people don't deserve a living wage
    1
  11707.  @russtemuka9849  exactly
    1
  11708. Gotta keep up the agrophobia
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  11709. 40 sounds fine.
    1
  11710. That's messed up
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  11711. Your minimum wage point is an excellent one. I have a theory as to why conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage. It is not because it costs businesses "too much" but because it makes meritocracy a lie. If raising the minimum wage really would lift tens of millions of people out of poverty that is admitting that poverty is a systemic problem, that effort alone is not and cannot be enough to succeed/escape poverty, in essence that means effort doesn't matter. On the other hand telling people to simply work harder or accept the way society is shifting the blame to the individual.
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  11712. ​ @MigattenoBlakae  Exactly.
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  11713. Living wage and unions exist to provide bargaining power
    1
  11714. That's messed up
    1
  11715. Day to day lifestyle? Like eating? Enjoying themselves? Being human? Are you really criticizing people for this now? Not everyone can get good grades or attend school full time, using those as metrics isn't good either.
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  11716. When I went to higher education I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom.
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  11717. I'm now going back to community college without financial aid or any other assistance, that even if I got, would still leave me unable to afford to finish.
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  11718. ​ @28llperez that's not the way government spending works. By the way, this anger never comes up whenever the government helps someone that isn't the working class.
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  11719. Yep
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  11720. I don't want to be a virgin
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  11721. It isn't complicated. Wages are not like the weather, something we can observe but cannot control. If we as a society believe that all jobs deserve to make people middle-class or Rich, no matter the repercussions, then that's what all jobs would make people. Our society would be structured around this simple fact. The level of income inequality in our society has been, is, and always will be a choice. There is no law of anything that forces some people to be so deeply unequal in income compared to others. We choose to be this unequal. We can choose to be more so or less so.
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  11722. Chic Fil A could pay their cashiers $100,000/year.
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  11723. ​ @woodstream6137 poverty is a policy choice
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  11724. The reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  11725. I wouldn't work minimum wage.
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  11726. Ok
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  11727. Ages 35-55. That must be the age ranges for all politicians.
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  11728. ​ @MiddleAgedMillennial ok 65.
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  11729. Lol.
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  11730. Not the real problem with a UBI
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  11731. Because they believe poor people don't deserve government assistance.
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  11732.  @alycks6056  because she doesn't care. She only saying it to gain votes.
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  11733. i have less than six months until i turn 30. I am a kissless virgin and it has destroyed my mind.
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  11734.  @cosmicbear88-23  that in no way is the solution.
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  11735. The real reason they have work requirements is because conservatives view poor people as failures.
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  11736. Yep
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  11737. When the poor receive money it's pennies with strings attached but the rich receive a blank check.
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  11738. If you add up the $1 trillion a year spent on poverty, divided it evenly among all poor families, each one would receive $125,000 a year...
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  11739.  @user-wi3yx3gy2o  i mean dividing the total costs of all of the anti poverty programs by the number of poor families.
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  11740.  @user-wi3yx3gy2o  1 trillion÷7.3 million poor families.
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  11741.  @user-wi3yx3gy2o  The total number of poor people is roughly 45 million. So yes, I agree with you.
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  11742. I believe you.
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  11743. Yep.
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  11744. Idk why.
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  11745. Then you're more upset with not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage.
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  11746.  @freeasabird30  if it greatly reduced poverty? Then yes.
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  11747. I'm happy for him as a fellow incel.
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  11748. And the minimum wage is still 7.25 at that. How have we arrived at a time where making 100K a year you would still need to take on debt to live?
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  11749. Because of just-world fallacy. It fuels conservative ideology. Rich people and business owners have "succeeded" in the "system that works," so they deserve to get bailed out due to their success. Whereas poor people have failed, so any government hope they receive Is undeserving.
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  11750.  @cjlaity1  that's messed up for the wrong reason then. That means you make more money working part-time collecting welfare than working full-time and not collecting welfare. Another sign of low wages.
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  11751. Also. In my state of North Carolina, if you're past the age of 25 and have no kids or disabilities, like myself at 28, you CANNOT receive welfare no matter how low income you are.
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  11752.  @cjlaity1  if you cannot afford to live from a job without government assistance then your wage is a poverty wage. No doctor in this country is eligible for food stamps nor would bother applying even if they were. I can't afford even clothes on a cashier's salary. A meal costs more than what I make per hour.
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  11753.  @cjlaity1  because my family supports me. Without them I'd not only be poor but dead. In a way, 4 MW jobs wouldn't be enough to get by in certain situations. That wouldn't be enough for me to afford medical care or college. Not even in a car in short order.
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  11754.  @cjlaity1  you're right. I'm 28 and have no kids or disabilities. I guess if I want more money I have to work harder.
    1
  11755. And?
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  11756. Ok
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  11757.  @ready4whatever784  unrelated to the video Nixon's family assistance plan failed because of corruption. I believe corruption doesn't have to do with money, but ethics. Kamala Harris wouldn't accept $1 million to help deny women the right to vote.
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  11758.  @ready4whatever784  my replies are gone on my main account I quit
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  11759. Poverty exist because we allow it to. It is a choice we have made, nothing more nothing less
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  11760. They literally would pass the most monumental pro-worker laws In the entire world.
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  11761. Ok
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  11762. She exists. That's what the View sees as an accomplishment.
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  11763. ​​ @Caribbean.Galaxy  I'm happy for him as well.
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  11764. ​ @Caribbean.Galaxy  I'm a virgin at 28.
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  11765.  @Caribbean.Galaxy  I'm telling the truth.
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  11766.  @Caribbean.Galaxy  okay.
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  11767. It's a lie Read Herbert gans functions of poverty. Republicans say welfare destroys work incentive, what they mean by this is that poor people don't work if the wages made from minimum wage work is smaller than the government grant.
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  11768. The only way to achieve fusion is vis gravitational confinement - like in stars. But we don't know how to make artificial gravity fields. Antigravity would reshape society.
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  11769. Without scholarships and grants, I couldn't even afford to go to community college
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  11770. Yes
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  11771. Adjusting for inflation around 3% the minimum wage would be $42/hr now.
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  11772.  @anewfuture  it'll be fine in the short term.
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  11773.  @libertybell5796  not something you should have to do to survive...
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  11774.  @golddeagle7  tax corporations 5x the amount their employees use in welfare.
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  11775.  @libertybell5796  poverty is a choice made by Society yes. Poverty is like women's suffrage, it's something that Society chooses to allow.
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  11776.  @KoreyByrne  that's terrible.
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  11777.  @_lil_lil  Okay. That doesn't negate my point.
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  11778.  @coryluke12  because they are not wealthy enough to do so themselves. However, the USA alone could abolish extreme poverty worldwide.
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  11779.  @coryluke12  not really... I've proven it is within human control to outlaw poverty.
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  11780.  @libertybell5796  Yes.
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  11781.  @coryluke12  how is my understanding flawed? There is enough wealth to end poverty. It is of no interest for rich nations to do so however.
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  11782.  @coryluke12  just like USA could end poverty within its own borders but at the same time it does nothing to raise wages for most of its population. It's not a lack of capability it's a lack of willingness.
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  11783.  @libertybell5796  I'm not sure where you're going with this. It's more profitable in the long-run. But more importantly, it is the morally right thing to do.
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  11784.  @libertybell5796  if you call it stealing then we're ideologically opposed and this argument will go nowhere.
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  11785.  @libertybell5796  if the money is stolen and/or not accepted that is a choice as well. Like I said, enough resources exist(to end poverty) every barrier you've mentioned is a political one(one of choice).
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  11786.  @coryluke12  why do i need to provide a link to prove to you money is printed, distributed, and used by people? That's obvious....
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  11787. @jesseperez4583  the minimum wage is 7.25/hr. Even if you tripled that wage, that is not enough to afford healthcare without insurance, which millions of workers don't have by either being kept part-time, being a temp worker, or being a gig worker. The wage of a cashier is a literal poverty wage, unable to support even a single person. Getting a degree would be easier with the government investing in free college and/or financial aid.
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  11788.  @jesseperez4583  a dream world? Women suffered for women to be able to vote now. Black people suffered for the same freedom. You're saying that means any race or other group that wants the right to vote should have to suffer just as much?
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  11789. the point is fallacy of relative privation: just because life could be worse means it can't or shouldn't be better. just because you worked 80 hours does not mean everyone else should go through that same thing. you don't choose your standard of living. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier at one point, i couldn't afford to even go to the barber or buy gas on that wage. I certainly couldn't pay for college or sustain myself in other ways either. I made even less as an intern, $900/semester. $60/week isn't enough to live on either. people get by 21/hr, doesnt make their suffering right. @jesseperez4583 
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  11790. i was enrolled in community college and couldn't afford healthcare and didn't have healthcare either. that wasn't my fault. my mom couldn't afford healthcare either. that wasn't her fault either. how about you blame greedy corporations instead of poor people(like the woman in the video)who want a better life for themselves? @jesseperez4583 
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  11791.  @jesseperez4583  I'm in community college now, but I can't afford to finish. Since I didn't receive health insurance from school, minimum wage job, internship, or obamacare, I took care of my mom. I LOST my financial aid and pell grants because of my poor, high stress home(grades slipped to 1.5 GPA). I was not given it back despite the financial aid office knowing my mom was sick, eventually given 6 months left to live, and eventually passed away(each a separate financial aid appeal). I lost emergency aid because the new requirements are to get a 2.0 GPA and complete half your degree(30 credits, I'm at 13). I can't get help from CARE Center because I can only afford to take 5 credits a semester. The care center requires you to take 6 to qualify for help. So wake tech won't help me pay for school. Those were not mistakes on my part, but on the government's fault for allowing low wages, no health benefits, and no unions. on top of other anti-labor laws.
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  11792. Yep.
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  11793. Yep.
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  11794. I re enrolled in community college, got in a 4 year university as a visiting student, completed an internship.
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  11795.  @MugsisDank  okay.
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  11796. Exactly.
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  11797. Wow.
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  11798. People who receive welfare make more money working part-time at minimum wage, receiving welfare than working full time and not receiving welfare. Another reason to raise the minimum wage is that you lose more money in benefits than what you can earn from working. You literally aren't paid enough to eat.
    1
  11799. My replies are gone. Screw youtube.
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  11800. Please tell me you read my reply
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  11801. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  11802.  @coopsnz1  what does that have to do with what I said.
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  11803.  @NM-qd3tm  It requires capital and time to create a corporation, something a minimum wage worker lacks the most.
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  11804.  @coopsnz1  I get your point.
    1
  11805. I need to get laid.
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  11806.  @kupidrosalindavateri3965  there you go
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  11807.  @shortleg79able  he believes you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  11808. Capitalism is Ben's religion.
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  11809. All priorities are not created equal. If ensuring livable wages was the top priority, then all other priorities would pay the price. Every decision has a trade-off.
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  11810.  @BriLee-g8l  living wage is enough money to not need welfare or charity in order to survive. Enough money to support adults and their families.
    1
  11811.  @BriLee-g8l  someone has to work minimum wage jobs. There is no "earning" higher pay if someone has to work lower level jobs at all times.
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  11812.  @BriLee-g8l  someone has to work minimum wage jobs.
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  11813. Politicians don't want to end poverty, because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  11814. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If there were truly robust welfare support programs in place, no one would work jobs that offered below cost of living wages and no health insurance. Workers could no longer be controlled by corporations anymore.
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  11815. I'm not paying for something that most men get for free.
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  11816. Because they believe you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing. It's called Calvinism.
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  11817. Yep
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  11818. I'm living in Raleigh. I don't understand either.
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  11819. So If average income was $80,000/yr you're fine with cashiers making $64,000/yr?
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  11820.  @markuspfeifer8473  okay.
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  11821. I have a theory as to why conservatives oppose a living wage. Conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase based on morals, not economics.
    1
  11822.  @markuspfeifer8473  I agree with your worldview. It's too bad politicians don't. They're amoral.
    1
  11823. Because women can have sex whenever they want. Women are not deprived of sex.
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  11824. ​ @jospinner1183 that's all messed up
    1
  11825.  @yuppers1  i bet all the money that has been given to the rich via QE could've bought every poor American a home.
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  11826.  @jaeboston9228  you'd have to be a millionaire or billionaire to pay that.
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  11827. Because 1. Poor women don't deserve to have children 2. Disabled people are worthless for being unable to work According to the government
    1
  11828. He's evil
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  11829. Ok
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  11830. Entry level jobs are dead end and give you no skills
    1
  11831. Wow
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  11832. no minimum wage gives raises like that. Hell, most salaried jobs don't either.
    1
  11833. Yeah. I deleted tinder and other apps.
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  11834. I'M A freaking virgin at 29 years old.
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  11835. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
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  11836. @sharper68  you're right. That's what I didn't want to admit as an incel: that you can't buy or force real companionship And that real companionship requires work
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  11837.  @sharper68  okay. I'll avoid a prostitute then.
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  11838. That's what rich out of touch people do. They also think in terms of salary, not hourly as well.
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  11839. Ok
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  11840. That is the point.
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  11841. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. So republicans cut welfare.
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  11842. Exactly ​ @chernobyl169 
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  11843. He deserves to be free
    1
  11844. He should be free
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  11845. Won't work. This failed under nixon for a very simple reason: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  11846. By design implies this is all a policy choice.
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  11847.  @jhutch1470  constitutional rights are policy choices as well.
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  11848. Yes you can because what those people are saying is poverty and motherhood are incompatible
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  11849. Exactly.
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  11850. This made me cry.
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  11851. No minimum wage worker in any country can support a family or themselves. That includes Denmark.
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  11852. @ayy lmao that's sad.
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  11853.  @williamfreeborn1829  exactly. I can't afford healthcare or college. I'm screwed
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  11854.  @melissamcgillivray  that's just as terrible as what I dealt last semester as I was attending college: 1. I worked as a cashier at a grocery store. If I worked 32 hours a week for 3 weeks in a row, I was eligible to receive everything from health insurance to prescription coverage to PTO. So, corporate kept all workers at 20-28 hours a week to avoid this. 2. When I was an intern, I learned about "temping." If you classify a job as temping, you can pay them near minimum wage and offer 0 benefits, with the promise at the end of it, you'll become full-time.
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  11855. @Melissa McGillivray  in my state, millions of workers, most of the work force, works part-time jobs for this exact reason. I knew of one guy working 55 hours a week at 3 part-time jobs. By classifying lower level employees as temps/contact workers, most entry-level jobs offered 0 benefits even at 40 hr work weeks.
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  11856.  @melissamcgillivray  I don't know how that is legal. Why can't corporations stop being greedy?
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  11857. @Melissa McGillivray  I believe it's about priorities. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. Doctors can refuse to make $10/hr. Cashiers can't. Not on their own. They can collectively. It's a policy choice to allow this power differential because unions alone prove it. Corporations are more concerned in fighting against worker solidarity than against poverty(of their employees).
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  11858.  @melissamcgillivray  North Carolina.
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  11859.  @melissamcgillivray  the core problem with unions and wages in general is priorities: corporations and politicians do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
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  11860. @Melissa McGillivray  just reread your original comment that was edited... Wonderful comment. Corporations screw over workers endlessly, but workers are to blame for wanting to be treated human.
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  11861. You can't buy intimacy
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  11862. I'm growing out of incel.
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  11863.  @theinvisiblewoman5709  republicans refuse to acknowledge the system is the problem because republicans believe in just-world fallacy.
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  11864.  @IhaytFukkingsocialmedia  politicians want to punish the poor.
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  11865. Yes
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  11866. ​@Lucinda Breeding-Gonzales is beautiful to read that. I've been an incel for 6 years. I'm learning to grow up.
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  11867. Correct.
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  11868. Both jobs suck.
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  11869. Yep
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  11870. My mom couldn't get frequent baths or care in general so I had to be her caretaker.. She was dying for six years. She ultimately passed away when I was 28.
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  11871.  @notalefty999  translators?
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  11872.  @notalefty999  ok my bad
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  11873. Wow.
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  11874. Those are crazy sacrifices
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  11875. I'm at community college now. I'm very poor. I want to live independently and attend school full-time in person, but I don't know how.
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  11876.  @anhbarker  I see.
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  11877.  @anhbarker  being broke made me realize I don't want to live with my dad or watch my brother (since I can't attend my classes in person watching him). If I truly want this degree, I will need to abandon the hope of grants/scholarships, rely on welfare and charity programs while working part-time and going to school full-time. It'll be hard.
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  11878.  @anhbarker  thank you. I won't give up.
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  11879. You believe in just-world fallacy.
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  11880.  @Makingnewnamesisdumb  In order to leave you need money. In order to relocate anywhere you need money. In order to get college education you need money. There are not enough high paying jobs to go around and company loyalty doesn't exist anymore. Not everyone can work their way up.
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  11881.  @Makingnewnamesisdumb  people choose to work minimum wage because they don't have the skills to get better jobs, that's all they qualify for. You're acting like everyone has a medical degree and they go and choose to become a cashier instead.
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  11882.  @Makingnewnamesisdumb  how do you develop skills? You gain more education or more responsibility, right? Well not everyone can afford a college education and not everyone can be promoted up the career ladder. There's no way someone working minimum wage can pay for college with a minimum wage job. Not with the cost of college now.
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  11883.  @Makingnewnamesisdumb  how do I move to another town with literally no money? Why should I have to move to another town? Much less with literally the clothes on my back only. If there were enough high paying jobs everywhere no one would have to move anywhere correct? Why are you not questioning the system? This is the equivalent of saying since women suffered over a hundred years being denied voting then anyone else who's suffering just as much for the same reason should just suck it up and work harder.
    1
  11884.  @Makingnewnamesisdumb  You have ignored my original point of how being a cashier gives you no skills. The job is dead end. You're right you can get many high-paying jobs without a college degree. Ancedotally, I desire to be an astrophysicist, which I cannot become without extensive college education. Which I can't currently afford. The other career I desire, screenwriting, requires no college degree whatsoever so there's no reason I can't pursue it right now.
    1
  11885.  @Makingnewnamesisdumb  I also desire to be a television journalist / TV reporter as well, that doesn't require a college degree just work experience. Or hell I could just do that on my own.
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  11886.  @Makingnewnamesisdumb  I see your point. Me complaining and working a minimum wage job will not ever get me what I want. It's my own my choices as to why I work minimum wage, there's nothing stopping me from pursuing and succeeding at screenwriting/college, I guess what you're saying is I need to stop being lazy and entitled.
    1
  11887.  @Makingnewnamesisdumb  I don't need to leave America, there are plenty of opportunities here for me, right now.
    1
  11888.  @Makingnewnamesisdumb  yes I see your point now. The city I live in... I don't even need to leave my city. I live in a city of over 400k people. There are thousands of events(like festivals and arts) every year. There are several major universities here(all of which offer physics programs), tens of thousands of scholarships offered in my county alone, several major news stations I could do an internship at(I don't need a degree in journalism or anything), and I can submit my screenplays online to anyone anywhere. Or to the previous competition I won.
    1
  11889.  @Makingnewnamesisdumb  well. I will...get to it. I'll stop complaining. Being entitled hadn't gotten me nothing in life I wanted.
    1
  11890. Trade schools also cost money, even with financial aid And it will only be equivalent to a high school degree if you desire extensive education.
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  11891. I turned 29 3 days ago. I am now STILL a virgin, with NO end in sight.
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  11892. So Republicans want to restrict women from having children, but then oppose any aid for the children once they're born?
    1
  11893. Fox news exists to prop up the rich and powerful. And to make it seem like poor people are greedy, when in reality, it's the business owners.
    1
  11894. Remember Herbert gans. And you'll understand this fear mongering
    1
  11895. Yes. Except rich people deserve welfare, poor people don't. That's conservative ideology.
    1
  11896. I believe worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The power differential in wages negotiations is a policy choice.
    1
  11897. Can someone explain to me why work separate shifts? 4 hours split? I've never heard of that in minimum wage.
    1
  11898. ​ @Demspeaks44 yes
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  11899. You're evil
    1
  11900. Neither. It's ideological. People at the top need poverty to exist.
    1
  11901. Politicians are presented with a very simple choice: poverty or worker solidarity, but you can not have both. Politicians have decided that worker solidarity is the risk they refuse to allow
    1
  11902. Fallacy of relative privation.
    1
  11903. Student loans exist as a halt to advancement.
    1
  11904. inflation is an acceptable risk.
    1
  11905. Wtf
    1
  11906. That's messed up.
    1
  11907. Wow.
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  11908. Not everyone can do that
    1
  11909. Then advocate for them to make more, not poor people to make less.
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  11910. Yep
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  11911. Politicians want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs with work requirements
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  11912. I'll quit working as a cashier then.
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  11913. It's called just world fallacy
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  11914. Politicians believe in just world fallacy. They believe any obstacles can be overcome with effort alone.
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  11915. I've been trying to lose my virginity for years to no avail. I'm a virgin at 29
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  11916. Someone shouldn't have to work 2 jobs period.
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  11917. Unless you have a star trek replicator, then that won't change.
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  11918. Work requirements are stupid because 1. people don't need to be coerced into escaping poverty. Its poverty. Let's have work requirements for victims of rape then. 2. Medicaid doesn't change the underlying problem of low wage work 3. Most minimum wage jobs don't offer health insurance 4. You can become injured and unable to work
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  11919. That's cool
    1
  11920. Correct
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  11921. Hahaha.
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  11922. I mean they'd oppose that.
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  11923.  @Feefa99  no I'm saying other people believe minimum wage workers don't deserve decent pay.
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  11924.  @theymademepickaname1248  I'm fine with doctor's making millions as well but I hope you know that wasn't the point I was making. My point was that many people only believe some workers deserve to be rich. If McDonald's cashiers made $100,000 a year people would be on the streets protesting like we legalized armed robbery.
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  11925. That's the point. To punish the disabled
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  11926. ​ @issi9740 exactly.
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  11927. Yep
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  11928. The real reason conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage is because their ethical code says it's morally wrong to pay more money to people than they deserve.
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  11929. The point of work requirements Is 1. Republicans oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  11930. With a nickel raise per year.
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  11931. Yes
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  11932.  @Jmich69  wow
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  11933. Chic Fil A generates enough in profits to pay their cashiers around $100,000 a year.
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  11934. Disgusting.
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  11935. He also says these PEOPLE. Not these JOBS.
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  11936.  @GhostOnTheHalfShell  I know.
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  11937.  @GhostOnTheHalfShell  I think conservatives lack empathy.
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  11938. I'm just sad I can't have sex.
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  11939. ​ @ivar-the-terrible that's wrong.
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  11940. That isn't the cause of poverty
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  11941. The system forces the disabled into poverty
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  11942. I wish
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  11943. Correct.
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  11944. ​ @bunny_smith exactly
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  11945. But it is a career for many people now. Times change.
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  11946.  @thanosdoomjuggernaut2846  no...that is right now.
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  11947.  @thanosdoomjuggernaut2846  most who work fast food don't make 33k...
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  11948.  @thanosdoomjuggernaut2846  35k for cashiers in my state. Wow. A whole....2k more
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  11949.  @thanosdoomjuggernaut2846  some do. Most don't. And most who work retail receive poverty wages.
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  11950. That's the point. Politicians don't want to end poverty.
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  11951. All priorities are not created equal. If ensuring livable wages was the top priority, then all other priorities would pay the price Every decision has a trade-off.
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  11952. Okay​ @zcorpalpha2462 
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  11953. My replies are deleted
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  11954.  @BeeN-fy2jh  that stopping doesn't change my core point: many people want society's lower end jobs to get filled with poverty, not without it. I.e. they want these jobs to pay poverty wages with no benefits, and poverty to coerce poor people into working them.
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  11955.  @BeeN-fy2jh  those are risks we must be willing to take.
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  11956.  @BeeN-fy2jh  the truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. California is proof people are more upset over inflation and unemployment than they are with helping minimum wage workers out of poverty. Meaning poverty isn't deemed intolerable
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  11957.  @BeeN-fy2jh  my replies keep getting deleted.
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  11958.  @BeeN-fy2jh  ok keep believing that about me.
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  11959. Because incels are either NEETs and broke. Or they're like me: work, but work minimum wage and are broke still. As a cashier, I make $10.50/hr.
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  11960. That's crazy.
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  11961. 1. Living wage 2. Welfare 3. Free college
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  11962. Lol no.
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  11963. ​ @tureytayno3154  exactly.
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  11964.  @interfectus99  It stands for Science. Technology. Engineering. Mathematics.
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  11965.  @interfectus99  So any type of engineer in the public or private sector, for example.
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  11966.  @josephpeeler5434  disgusting IMO
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  11967.  @josephpeeler5434  yes. The Fed just casually printing money is disgusting. But with the strength of the U.S. currency, USA could print its way out of any crisis.
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  11968. The government takes care of everyone cradle to grave.
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  11969. Because politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers
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  11970. Exactly.
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  11971. Correct.
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  11972.  @ericafox5098  she didn't have to die.
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  11973.  @ericafox5098  true. But i don't have to hate...anyone..
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  11974.  @ericafox5098  i wonder why lonely women don't lash out
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  11975.  @ericafox5098  i just wish i could make everyone feel important in this world.
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  11976.  @dansmodacct  politicians don't want to end poverty.
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  11977. Jon makes CNN look like Kevin Spacey from Footloose.
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  11978. Disgusting.
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  11979. ​@jan6742 you are correct.
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  11980.  @dataphoenix8004  ok
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  11981. It's literally gambling.
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  11982. ​ @clintbuzzworth6669 minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  11983. Republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class.
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  11984. Dang.
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  11985. To force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  11986.  @PatrickRockwell24  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Restricting welfare doesn't change the skills of the poor or their children. USA does not offer affordable college for the poor. The poor are not to blame, it is the rich and corporations.
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  11987. None
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  11988. Politicians don't want poor people having children just middle class
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  11989. @ there is They vote but poor people don't Only 1% of population deal with care on the surface.
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  11990. correct.
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  11991. It's called the fallacy of relative privation.
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  11992. Work requirements reinforce the notion that poor people need to be motivated to work harder to escape poverty.
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  11993. It's called being an other wallet warrior. Politicians get angry at other people getting something for free that successful people have to work for
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  11994. the point is mainstream media and politicians only want to report one side of the story, usually the rich/owner/capitalist class, never the poor or struggling workers. @lv.99mastermind45 
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  11995.  @destinal_in_reality  a low wage job is an oxymoron, no Job is worth having if it can't support its workers.
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  11996.  @destinal_in_reality  there is no consent from the employee.
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  11997.  @dominicfucinari1942  Conservatives don't want to bail out people who are disadvantaged. Republicans want them to deal with the "consequences" of their decisions(children cannot consent so Republicans sicken me). When the rich make mistakes conservatives say we "have to" bail them out but when the poor suffers or the LBGT community suffers or women suffer we "have to" let them deal with their own pain. My theory is that conservatives believe that every problem is an individual one. either luck doesn't exist or isn't a contributing factor. So if you're born poor it isn't your fault but if you die poor it is. Helping poor people become better off is like rewarding failure and that is anathema to them.
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  11998. Fucked up.
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  11999. Wow
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  12000. The problem with medicaid is that welfare ensures corporations can continue to pay poverty wages and no health insurance to poor people like myself. The government isn't going to force corporations to have healthcare
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  12001. Imagine if crime was treated like poverty. "Now's not the right time to fight poverty. We'll have cops work 9 to 5 Monday through friday."
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  12002. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  12003. Your minimum wage point is an excellent one. I have a theory as to why conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage. It is not because it costs businesses "too much" but because it makes meritocracy a lie. If raising the minimum wage really would lift tens of millions of people out of poverty that is admitting that poverty is a systemic problem, that effort alone is not and cannot be enough to succeed/escape poverty, in essence that means effort doesn't matter. On the other hand telling people to simply work harder or accept the way society is shifting the blame to the individual.
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  12004. Republicans hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. You couldn't control workers if they had a safety net to fall back on.
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  12005. Gravity is the working of space, they're the same thing. You warp space with the presence of mass-energy, and you need an enormous amount of mass-energy to cause strong enough space-time curvature to create a wormhole.
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  12006. You need to have the ability to create and manipulate Planet-scale quantities of both positive and negative gravitational energy.
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  12007. Welfare exists by design. Read herbert gans functions of poverty- Poverty exists to ensure there are cheap laborers and services provided because of the poor, like the police and prisons.
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  12008.  @chrishalious8194  yes it is, such as USA.
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  12009. Watch "dante equivalent exchange" speech on fullmetal alchemist.
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  12010. Sounds good
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  12011. You can't be an adult and a child at once
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  12012. Facetious.
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  12013. How about no means testing? Just give the poor more money?
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  12014.  @teemoleague907  politicians believe the poor can't be trusted with money.
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  12015. ​ @dilthiumful inflation is an acceptable risk.
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  12016. Noone knows.
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  12017. Not a living wage still. Especially considering you're working part-time so you are ineligible for benefits.
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  12018. @P Gai82  labor statistics of North Carolina. Full-time minimum wage workers would be entitled to benefits like health insurance and PTO, (look up Obamacare), so retail and fast food companies keep their workers part-time. Living wage= enough to not be in poverty. Afford food, clothes, housing, healthcare, without needing welfare.
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  12019. @P Gai82  good for you. Not an option for everyone else.
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  12020. You can ensure everyone is paid well no matter their education level
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  12021. That's evil
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  12022. I am, yes.
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  12023.  @darnelldyson4590  it's okay. I'm going to be making a video on all this soon. The real political problem with ending poverty and debt.
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  12024. Or that the government benefits pay more than work.
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  12025. Most poor people already work
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  12026. No.
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  12027. Because conservatives don't care about the cost. Their axiom is that rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor. anything which changes this is, by definition, unfair.
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  12028. People oppose this morally.
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  12029. Gotta love corporations right?
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  12030.  @strangelyukrainian7314  yep
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  12031. Corporations want illegal immigrants because they desire cheap labor
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  12032. Loan cancelation doesn't require increase on taxes.
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  12033. Right.
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  12034.  @tonys4751  you're right. Since I'm poor, I get section 8 housing, food from food banks, Medicaid, energy/light bills paid, free bus and cab fare, scholarships and grants, and I might even get a full ride scholarship worth $450,000. But ask yourself this, how is this a NET benefit for the poor? This essentially is a government grant being provided that makes up for lousy wages. If wages exceed the government grants, poor people (like myself) would neither need nor want government assistance. Doctors don't need food stamps because their salary exceeds the grant. Why not advocate for the same situation for poor people so they aren't poor in the first place and thus don't need tax benefits?
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  12035.  @tonys4751  I hope I argued well/didn't insult you. But I have learned from listening to conservatives that I can't rely on big daddy government to solve everything for me. My life is my responsibility, not anyone else's. So yes, I do feel bad being on Medicaid because it does mean you are supporting me when I know you have no obligation or desire to do so.
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  12036.  @MsPoliteRants  the real reason conservatives hate poor people getting government assistance is two fold: 1. They believe poor people haven't "worked hard enough" to "earn" government assistance. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  12037. I've been using tinder for years and haven't gotten laid.
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  12038. That's messed up.
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  12039. What Kyle is saying is conservatives want these jobs to exist but also pay poverty wages.
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  12040. Yep.
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  12041.  @CivilizedWarrior  because it admits the first line I said: that crime itself is a policy choice. War is a policy choice. Poverty is. Everything else is too.
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  12042. ​@CivilizedWarrior remember this line too: most problems are a choice. It's a choice we can stop making at any moment. It's about If truly wanted to change. And we truly don't want to.
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  12043. That's sad.
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  12044. Yep
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  12045. Correct. At my retail job you get benefits if you're full-time So everyone is kept at part-time.
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  12046.  @davidpaulsen1510  qualified employees? That's messed up too.
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  12047. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  12048. Not everyone can get a better job.
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  12049. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
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  12050. Money
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  12051. yes
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  12052. Dante from fullmetal alchemist. That speech criticized capitalism. You can work hard and get nothing in return. Capitalism is not built on equivalence.
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  12053. The point is that corporations find poverty acceptable.
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  12054. Because poor people such as myself are powerless to change anything.
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  12055. It's important for me to escape being incel.
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  12056. Yes he does.
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  12057. Wow.
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  12058. You're right
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  12059. ​ @mggardiner4066 that's amazing.
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  12060. Ok😊
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  12061. Yep
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  12062. I can't do that. I'm poor myself.
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  12063. ​ @blooflazh7 yep
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  12064. Republicans hate welfare because poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  12065. Which can be accomplished instantly....
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  12066. Yep
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  12067. Corporations are evil
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  12068. That's messed up.
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  12069. Yes
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  12070. There is no more good.
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  12071. It's called survivorship bias.
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  12072. Correct.
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  12073. Okay.
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  12074. Conservatives think unskilled workers deserve poverty
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  12075. @peterversionone  be happy he just eliminated poverty and social inequality. Read pandora millions by George o Smith.
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  12076. Exactly.
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  12077. Just world fallacy
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  12078. Yep.
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  12079.  @bittersweet7145  correct. Republicans believe in Calvinism because it fuels their ideology around control and merit.
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  12080. My government denied medicaid expansion, leaving me in the medicaid gap. It recently expanded it, but medicaid still isn't direct cash assistance.
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  12081. I made $8.50/hr at one point and the state I lived in refused to raise the minimum wage one penny.
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  12082. ​ @crobinson2624 not everyone can escape poverty.
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  12083.  @crobinson2624  you truly believe that? 100%?
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  12084. @crobinson2624  all this suffering I experienced you think I could end(in the sense of me escaping poverty)
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  12085. ​ @crobinson2624 no.
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  12086. ​ @cassady7169  acting is a job a child could do.
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  12087. There are People under 18 in poverty.
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  12088. people under 18 live in poverty as well.
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  12089.  @Saberwolves84  thanks for the heads up.
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  12090. Too bad people are trying to do that now.
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  12091. Nothing bad
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  12092. The problem is that politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations can't control workers.
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  12093. I'm socially inept due to my autism and social isolation. But I'm high functioning enough to deal with both.
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  12094.  @joshkidd2075  Politicians get all of that off of taxpayer dollars?
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  12095. ​ @roxycauldwell544  Fast food are retail industries are dead end.
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  12096. @Dan D  that's me as a cashier man. 35 hours a week is full-time at my supermarket. I'd receive 401K, PTO, paid sick leave, paid family leave, tuition reimbursement, and health insurance, and this could also extend to all of my dependents/children(if I had any). It's more expensive for the company to employ one person working 40 hours a week with benefits than to employ 2 people, each working 20 hours a week without benefits. So myself, and millions of other people, not just in fast food or retail, by the way, work part time and receive 0 benefits.
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  12097. @Dan D  And then I hear conservatives on Fox News telling me I'm lazy for not working 40 hours a week. THEN they push the trades as some saving grace out of poverty. But the real reason that those trade workers make so much is because of unions, which Fox News is also against. In other words, police officers/plumbers/electricians make $45 an hour and up, but that's because they are in unions. Without unions, they make less than half that.
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  12098. @Itsjustme  $16/hr is nice. Actually, no cashiers in my city make that much. In fact, I'm nearly 30, so I'm too old to keep working this job anyway, which I've done foe 7 years.
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  12099.  @paul5683  I've seen that too many times.
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  12100. @Jason James  our economy does not contain enough living wage jobs for everyone.
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  12101. Because republicans believe in just-world fallacy.
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  12102. That's messed up
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  12103. The government could force corporations to provide benefits like health insurance, but that cuts into corporate profits and Republican donations
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  12104.  @paulkeiper1381  so it's my fault I'm an incel?
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  12105. Just world fallacy.
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  12106. Same.
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  12107. Reading this made me cry. Truthfully, you can't buy respect or love. Rich people know this, deep down. What they really desire is power and control, which is what being wealthy gives you. If everyone had power and control over their own lives, rich people would be no different than anybody else.
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  12108. The poor. Not homeless.
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  12109. Wow
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  12110. Except that's what you're not getting: republicans hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  12111. It's evil ​ @bobbiecat8000 
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  12112. How about work on having both at once. This is not an elementary school where you only learn one thing at a time
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  12113. It's greed.
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  12114. ​ @davidneman6527 yes, corporations want to exploit the poor and unskilled workers because no billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs.
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  12115.  @davidneman6527  my reply is deleted
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  12116.  @dianedelauri642  working for low wages
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  12117.  @jamiethomas6701  my replies are gone
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  12118. That's how the rich like it.
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  12119. Beautiful
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  12120. Yep.
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  12121. Correct
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  12122. That sounds good.
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  12123.  @fcdl61  that sounds fine. I'm fine forgiving auto loans.
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  12124. Yes.
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  12125. Hahaha. That's messed up.
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  12126. Wow.
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  12127. ​ @selenasmith7943 beautiful
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  12128. I'm an incel and I read that.
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  12129. ​ @gamerpiss6747 I'm a poor incel virgin.
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  12130. That wouldn't get me genuine affection or sex from a woman.
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  12131. ​ @gamerpiss6747 an average woman wanted to date me, but because I was broke and had no car she decided to not keep dating me.
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  12132. The point is to reinforce the lie the poor people are lazy
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  12133. Our politicians have the power to eliminate poverty, it's not among their priorities.
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  12134.  @jwbjpb1338  yes. I'll make a video on it.
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  12135. But skill and productivity are not the same thing. McDonald's workers are unskilled but they produce billions of dollars in profit yearly so they are productive enough, it's just that Peter doesn't want any of the money going in their pockets.
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  12136.  @thadoc5186  yes.
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  12137. you could retire after your first year.
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  12138.  @belkyhernandez8281  5 million per year? I don't even think neurosurgeons make that much.
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  12139.  @belkyhernandez8281  That's literally insane considering the minimum wage is still 7.25/ hr..
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  12140.  @belkyhernandez8281  I bet if these politicians or CEOs made minimum wage they would change things real quick. Minimum wage would be $50 an hour tomorrow
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  12141. Rofl yep
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  12142. Then you're more upset or unemployment and higher prices than helping workers out of poverty.
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  12143. ​ @TheNecessaryEvil a cashier is a dead end job that gives you no skills. If you design a job to be dead end, you can't blame the driver but the designer. If I design only cars with three wheels, and drivers must accept said cars, the blame isn't on the drivers, but designers of the car.
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  12144.  @TheNecessaryEvil  but not everyone can be promoted out of a cashier job.
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  12145. Minimum wage jobs are already kept part time to avoid being eligible for benefits anyway.
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  12146.  @TheNecessaryEvil  but...I don't know what you're not getting. If every city cop had more motivation, could they all be promoted? No. Most will stay stuck in that position. I have motivation to not work shitty minimum wage jobs. But it's all I can do for now while attending college.
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  12147.  @Lifeisshort2669  I think he has a moral opposition to a living wage.
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  12148.  @TheNecessaryEvil  but regardless of what happens cops are needed. And doctors and lawyers. And... cashiers. What you're ultimately arguing for, is for some people to live in poverty.
    1
  12149.  @TheNecessaryEvil  I've won scholarships and grants helping me attend school. So for the time being, I guess you're right.
    1
  12150.  @TheNecessaryEvil  if you believe poverty is a choice, then you believe in just world fallacy
    1
  12151.  @TheNecessaryEvil  okay.
    1
  12152. Correct
    1
  12153. Lobbying is legal. Bribery is not.
    1
  12154. That's messed up
    1
  12155. ​ @osmosis321 wow.
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  12156. @osmosis321  I was incel for 6 years and you described me perfectly. I'm poor, socially inept, living at home, and I'm nearly 30.
    1
  12157. @osmosis321  I stopped identifying as incel, but at 28, I've ran into being a man-child. Being a man-child hasn't helped me. I tell myself when I grow up, then I'll get laid.
    1
  12158. You don't have the right to tell poor people how much money they should make.
    1
  12159. Rape is about power and control.
    1
  12160. I'm not using a hooker to lose my virginity because the affection isn't genuine.
    1
  12161. I'm a loser 29 virgin now
    1
  12162. Power and control. It's the same mindset sociopaths and rapists have.
    1
  12163. ​ @peterroberts4415 yep.
    1
  12164. They hate the poor.
    1
  12165. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  12166. Yes
    1
  12167. I don't hate women, just that they deny me sex
    1
  12168. Yep
    1
  12169. @HeyDay  yep. If I made $400,000/year with lifetime, 24/7, 100% medical coverage I'd be evil too.
    1
  12170.  @SpeakerWiggin49  just-world fallacy..
    1
  12171.  @SpeakerWiggin49  the right wing ideologically opposes policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class.
    1
  12172.  @joshcal7370  i'm 100% positive no one student controls the price of tuition. If they could, they wouldn't rely on the loans on the first place.
    1
  12173.  @joshcal7370  fair point. I'm fine with auto loan forgiveness.
    1
  12174. @joshcal7370  yes. That's my point. Forgive it all.
    1
  12175.  @joshcal7370  I'm fine with that too.
    1
  12176. Yep.
    1
  12177. Let me explain to you what you and Kyle are not understanding. Conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors demanded $15 an hour the same conservatives would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage then. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status. It's not an economics issue to them it's a moral one. In their eyes some workers are simply undeserving of being paid enough to live.
    1
  12178. Paying for sex invalidates the experience because she doesn't like you.
    1
  12179. I'd break up any company that grosses $1 billion or more in sales.
    1
  12180. Noone should need debt to get a degree.
    1
  12181. I think conservatives ideologically oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class. They see helping the poor becoming middle class as rewarding failure. Imagine giving someone who failed medical school a medical degree anyway? That's how conservatives feel about student loan that relief, free college, medicare for all, and an increase in the minimum wage, just to name a few.
    1
  12182. Exactly!!
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  12183. Correct.
    1
  12184. Fast food is even worse. If you start at "entry level" you don't get promoted past store manager without a college degree. Corporate jobs usually require a degree but no experience working in fast food.
    1
  12185. Because they don't believe all workers deserve to be middle class.
    1
  12186. Except politicians don't want to end poverty.
    1
  12187.  @henryford2950  true but rich people buy into the lie.
    1
  12188.  @henryford2950  well..that is true.
    1
  12189.  @henryford2950  rich people disgust me.
    1
  12190. Oh I see.
    1
  12191. He kicked two million people off of Medicaid and reduced food stamps by 33%. Forcing millions to either have no healthcare or die, and go to food banks.
    1
  12192. My replies are gone
    1
  12193. Politicians believe poor people shouldn't have healthcare and view the disabled as a burden
    1
  12194. Medicaid forces me into poverty until I graduate
    1
  12195.  @XNTYLER  yep
    1
  12196. ​ @kelliekretzmer4998  my supermarket makes 78% of sales from SNAP.
    1
  12197. That's messed up.
    1
  12198.  @RextheRebel  It can be with a literal handwave.
    1
  12199. I've been rejected by 17,000 women.
    1
  12200.  @christopherduffy1703  tinder/hinge/bumble No matches or unmatches
    1
  12201.  @christopherduffy1703  irl only a few hundred times
    1
  12202. Correct.
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  12203. you can make it a crime for corporations to strangehold workers like that.
    1
  12204. The paper thin margins are based on the industry automating its workforce, creating low wage jobs.
    1
  12205. Yes
    1
  12206. I'm the opposite - I have a heart but I'm poor
    1
  12207. ​ @dustinsindledecker154 exactly
    1
  12208. ​ @dustinsindledecker154 yep
    1
  12209. Not even bill gates?
    1
  12210. A pay raise at a minimum wage job is $0.05 per year. If that.
    1
  12211. That's sad and true.
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  12212.  @iamcosma7065  still a policy choice.
    1
  12213. Yep.
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  12214. Damn.
    1
  12215. Correct.
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  12216. Because of ideology. The reason there is any difference in our ideology is simple- we don't believe all sources of suffering are wrong.
    1
  12217. Wow.
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  12218. Yes.
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  12219. gotta convince middle class people that poor people are the source of their problems.
    1
  12220. Lololol
    1
  12221. Because republicans hate poor people.
    1
  12222. Exactly.
    1
  12223.  @50jakecs  i don't recall saying corporations aren't governed by state laws?
    1
  12224.  @porkypies8734  I know. I know...
    1
  12225.  @porkypies8734  I wish i could change things but being a politician isn't for me.
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  12226.  @porkypies8734  America could have no poverty and a larger, richer middle class.
    1
  12227. Yep.
    1
  12228. Movie or t.v. show?
    1
  12229. I see
    1
  12230. Minimum wage workers work for billion dollar corporations but make pennies
    1
  12231. Wtf.
    1
  12232. Why aren't female incels famous?
    1
  12233. Politicians want poverty to exist.
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  12234. They believe in equivalent exchange. The rich receive all the money because they provide everything. The poor receive nothing because they contribute nothing.
    1
  12235. Exactly.
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  12236. The real reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
    1
  12237. Yep
    1
  12238. They view poverty as acceptable
    1
  12239. ​ @RachelAmmons exactly
    1
  12240. Not that I would ever work overtime anyway. I couldn't work past 28 hours a week so I couldn't be able to get health insurance. I made $10/hr too.
    1
  12241. I'm happy for him as a former incel.
    1
  12242. Yep
    1
  12243. The point is for poverty to exist
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  12244. Because they oppose helping poor people. It isn't about the cost.
    1
  12245. ​ @sunshine3914 that sucks
    1
  12246. The government wouldn't have to manage anything if businesses did what they were supposed to and stopped desiring slave labor.
    1
  12247. Yes
    1
  12248. Chic fil a could pay its workers $100,000 a year.
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  12249.  @OMG_BeCkY  use 3% annual inflation and $6 is around $45/today.
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  12250.  @OMG_BeCkY  i know. i'm basing the $6 off of what one senator claimed he made in the 70s as justification for why 7.25 is "too high."(his words. senator thune)
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  12251. no minimum wage has ever been enough to afford a home, family, car, and healthcare. But wages, including the minimum wage, can be high enough to do just that.
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  12252.  @OMG_BeCkY  Yes. I do.
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  12253.  @OMG_BeCkY  Wages are not like the weather: something you observe and predict but cannot control. If we as a society truly believed every single job should pay a living wage, or even middle class one, then every worker would have one.
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  12254.  @OMG_BeCkY  Why do people use skill as the only measurement as the worth of a job? Skill alone doesn't determine productivity. There are other factors which people seem to ignore all the time.
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  12255.  @OMG_BeCkY  i don't recall saying afford ANY home.
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  12256.  @OMG_BeCkY  wages aren't fantasy... People set wages.
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  12257.  @OMG_BeCkY  a home large enough for a family. Any family they have.
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  12258.  @OMG_BeCkY  that's what i've been saying.
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  12259.  @OMG_BeCkY  you keep asking me the same thing over and over. Yes to your 20 kids question.
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  12260.  @OMG_BeCkY  there is nothing absurd about saying wages are set by people and can thus be changed.
    1
  12261. Right. I'm an incel and agree.
    1
  12262.  @speedracer1945  i agree...it is a choice for me to limit myself. I can always choose to be better. Apply higher standards to myself.
    1
  12263. In my state of NC, medicaid expansion got denied, causing me to lose medicaid and not be able to take care of my sick mom. She passed away.
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  12264. Ok
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  12265. Low wage workers have no bargaining power. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier instead of the $17 I wanted.
    1
  12266. Yes
    1
  12267. LOL
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  12268. Exactly
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  12269. Because poor people will refuse slave wages with robust welfare
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  12270. I didn't realize cashiers are worse than rapists.
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  12271. ​ @NurseyPants73  oh I'll add on to that: $10,000/year tuition isn't cheap either, not to mention community colleges don't cover living expenses for students. So if you're like me and exempt yourself from working to focus on school, you're forced to rely on welfare to survive.
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  12272. Yep​ @NurseyPants73 
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  12273. I'm a cashier at a grocery store making $10.50 an hour. I'm 28 years old. How do I afford to live? I DON'T. MY FAMILY TAKES CARE OF ME
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  12274.  @olliemck60  cashiers would literally make $34/hr overnight.
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  12275.  @olliemck60  I've read online that Walmart, each Walmart store averages about 1.75 million a year in welfare benefits for its employees. Let's round that up to two Then multiply that by 5. Let's tax every supermarket in the country $10 million USD a year. This would be in addition to all of the other taxes and other expenses they already have to pay.
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  12276.  @outlawbillionairez9780  That's outrageous. Also if they actually distributed their soaring profits to their workers employees would be making way more.
    1
  12277.  @outlawbillionairez9780  If McDonald's in Chick-fil-A pay their employees based on profit sharing their cashiers would be making around $100,000 a year. How does that make you feel?
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  12278.  @outlawbillionairez9780  I agree. Would you be upset if cashiers made that much? Or anyone in general?
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  12279.  @outlawbillionairez9780  I can only dream of owning a home, they're $300,000+ now. Most jobs pay $50k a year. After taxes I couldn't afford the mortgage even with 0% interest.
    1
  12280.  @outlawbillionairez9780  wow, if only everyone else shared your thoughts.
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  12281.  @outlawbillionairez9780  I wanted to become a television journalist, the next big news anchor, because I realized something about poverty.
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  12282.  @outlawbillionairez9780  I know the secret to ending poverty and to achieving world peace: women's suffrage. If we truly cared about ending poverty, we would suffer whatever consequences in finding against their poverty. We do this for women and voting. But we have a fundamental belief women deserve voting, so we are willing to suffer these consequences. We do not like to suffer the consequences for ending poverty. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty. A living wage is not like the weather: something you observe and predict but cannot control. if we truly believed everyone was entitled to a living wage just as women are entitled to voting we would ensure everyone receives a living wage, and we would be willing to pay whatever price to do that. Poverty is like women's suffrage: A policy choice, not a law of nature like gravity. Almost everything else is a policy choice as well: crime, war, homelessness, hunger, debt, the level of income inequality, corporate profits, environmental damage, marriage, even religious freedom. And just like poverty, we are unwilling to pay the price that would accompany the elimination of said problems. We are unwilling to pay the cost to ending poverty / homelessness/hunger. We are unwilling so pay the cost for stopping crime/global warming / war. We are unwilling to pay the cost to giving people health care/education/robust infrastructure. If we are not willing to pay the price, If we are not willing to take drastic measures to take action, If we are not willing to take any measures at all, then we don't truly want to change. We're unified in giving women voting, but we're divided in providing people with anything else. But it doesn't have to be that way because it's not that way for women. We have the capacity to change, to be better, because women are proof. Women are proof of how wonderful the world could be if we saw each other as deserving. I wish we had more compassion. The bottom line is we will complete any journey if we deem the destination worthy enough. Giving women the right to vote is a destination that is worthy enough to us. and everything else simply isn't.
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  12283. ​ @trappedinamerica7740 yep
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  12284. They know, they just believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
    1
  12285. ​ @Gloowie12345 yep.
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  12286. Because he doesn't want to solve immigration. The rich want immigrants for cheap labor
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  12287. These people are heartless cowards.
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  12288. You're punishing poor people for being human
    1
  12289. Yep.
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  12290. It's called poverty
    1
  12291. Reading this as an incel made me cry. It's as if sex isn't the end all be all to life.
    1
  12292. That's messed up ​ @kc_jones_gaming 
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  12293. Correct.
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  12294. Rofl
    1
  12295. Yep
    1
  12296. I'm an incel.
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  12297. I've never experienced sex, kissing, dating, or holding hands and I am nearly 30. I always tell others it's always because of women's fault. That they deny me due to their impossible standards. I know deep down I have no self-confidence and no personality. I have nothing to offer the women that I like. It's my own responsibility to get the things I desire: whether it be sex or a career, I'm not owed anything.
    1
  12298. Exactly
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  12299. Unemployment is an acceptable risk
    1
  12300. Unions have been eviscerated in the US.
    1
  12301. I'll tell you why welfare is restricted: because poor people don't work minimum wage jobs since welfare pays more. Politicians want to force poor people to accept slave wages
    1
  12302. Heartless
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  12303. That's messed up And I didn't realize this
    1
  12304. Exactly.
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  12305. That won't happen. That would require banning wealthy people from having better Healthcare.
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  12306.  @KiTheMC  okay.
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  12307. If a business can only thrive by paying poverty wages then that business shouldn't exist.
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  12308. It isn't a dream. Wages aren't like the weather- something you observe and predict but can't control.
    1
  12309. I had a job, but it was minimum wage. I'll need a better job. Hopefully I can be a screenwriter in 5 years. Or get a short term reporting job. I'll then get my driver's license, then car.
    1
  12310. I'll escape poverty and lose my virginity, I know it!
    1
  12311. That's messed up.
    1
  12312. Exactly
    1
  12313. ​ @JamesDavy2009 they'd cry
    1
  12314. Wow
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  12315. Wow
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  12316. Blame corporations
    1
  12317. Personal development? I'm an incel and i don't see any woman who has difficulty getting laid.
    1
  12318. Ding ding ding
    1
  12319. That's evil
    1
  12320. okay
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  12321.  @matthewschwartz6607  Yes he does have the power. Higher Education act allows Biden to have all public colleges grant loans to all its students and be 100% waived.
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  12322.  @theflaggeddragon9472  Higher Education act allows Biden to automatically enroll students in a federal loans program that can be 100% waived, meaning a student could take out a $50,000 loan per year for college and such a loan doesn't have to be repaid.
    1
  12323. Exactly.
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  12324. It's only socialism when the government helps poor people.
    1
  12325.  @paulwestbrook9514  it's relative.
    1
  12326. Exactly.
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  12327. Yeah
    1
  12328. so tuition would come from the 100k? Also out of state schools costs around 70k per year in some states.
    1
  12329.  @brothersandsistersofvalhalla  I think he believes even with free college still only rich kids would want to go...or some other nonsense.
    1
  12330. ​ @SmallSpoonBrigade  wow.
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  12331. Yep​ @SmallSpoonBrigade 
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  12332. That's messed up either way.
    1
  12333. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once.
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  12334. Correct. Imagine if we cut their salary by their approval rating.
    1
  12335. They don't Believe minimum wage workers deserve to be middle class.
    1
  12336. Yep.
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  12337. Ok
    1
  12338. Exactly ​ @melissaperez7267 
    1
  12339. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept.
    1
  12340. I must lose my virginity before I'm 30.
    1
  12341.  @suzygraham1427  I've been scared.
    1
  12342.  @suzygraham1427  of having sex. It's intimacy I've never experienced.
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  12343. @suzygraham1427  but I'm not scared anymore. Now, I have to be more open.
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  12344.  @suzygraham1427  oh ok awesome! I will stay positive! I don't want to give up because life is so beautiful!
    1
  12345. ​ @suzygraham1427 thank you for your help 😊
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  12346. Millions make more than 7.25 but less than 15.
    1
  12347. because you aren't seeing the big picture: the american economy runs on poverty. If no poverty existed, workers would have solidarity and could reject dead-end job offers. Rising worker power is seen as a policy disaster, not relief. As workers gain more power, politicians use poverty, not higher salaries, to keep workers in place.
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  12348. Nobody should be poor.
    1
  12349. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
    1
  12350.  @k.j.305  I'm an incel and what you say hurts my feelings. I've used tinder and other dating apps for years and have not gotten laid once or even met a girl in person. If this keeps up I'll be a kissless Virgin at 28 in a few months.
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  12351. Because they don't believe minimum wage workers deserve to be middle class because they are "unskilled / lazy."
    1
  12352. It's called the fallacy of relative privation
    1
  12353. Yep.
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  12354. Prostitutes don't offer genuine affection.
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  12355. Won't work because incels aren't mad about lack of sex but entitlement to women.
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  12356. That too
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  12357. Then demand corporations stop paying millions of people slave wages.
    1
  12358. Yep
    1
  12359. It's called just-world fallacy
    1
  12360. Until politicians see profit motive or criminal persecution nothing will change.
    1
  12361. Wow
    1
  12362. Yep
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  12363.  @Phil_A_O_Fish  yep.
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  12364.  @Phil_A_O_Fish  It's all evil.
    1
  12365. Politicians and the rich believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  12366.  @pepperonish  yes but I think he meant social programs for poor people like Medicaid, Section 8, food stamps, etc.
    1
  12367. Conservatives don't want Minimum wage workers to afford housing
    1
  12368. Keep in mind waiters make $2 an hour and restaurants don't raise their wages.
    1
  12369. Yes
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  12370. Sad.
    1
  12371. Beautiful.
    1
  12372. Okay
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  12373. The reason he wants work requirements is to force poor people into dog shit minimum wage jobs.
    1
  12374. ​ @i_am_a_toast_of_french ok
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  12375. The rich believe it because the implication that meritocracy is a myth means they became rich through luck, through cheating.
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  12376. ​​ @user-di5ye5hr3b  to understand the pain of poverty
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  12377.  @Casn521  Ben believes minimum wage workers who are adults are failures that don't deserve a living wage or to be protected by the nanny state. He believes poverty will motivate them to work harder and gain the skills that will make them worthy of a living wage.
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  12378.  @Casn521  Shapiro isn't saying the quiet part. His belief boils down to "the poor should die" (and therefore never have a family). He views people at McDonald's and other min wage jobs as just high schoolers on their way to college (so they can be successful by majoring solely in STEM). People in min wage jobs as adults are deemed failures by shabibo and not only shouldn't be protected by the nanny state, but shouldn't expect to have a livable wage. This lower wage lets them understand they are a failure as a way to invigorate them to strive better by gaining skills (certifications, community college, college degrees,etc). Too bad it's hard to do that when you are barely above, if you even are, the poverty line. In other words: it's not logically consistent and the purpose is to create winners and losers where your hand isn't random, but one person is guaranteed to start with an ace in their hand while others are lucky to have a 5.
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  12379. @k lws  correct. But the real reason is to convince poor people they'll be rich too, if they simply worked hard enough.
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  12380. @k lws  Also, the idea that if you just work hard enough, then things will work out fine, is a classic example of the just-world fallacy.
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  12381.  @Casn521  no. It's power and control.
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  12382. Wow
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  12383. Ok
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  12384. Yep.
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  12385. It sets a precedent that poverty is a policy choice.
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  12386.  @brianmsahin  you expect these people to lose either way: work minimum wage jobs but be disrespected for not wanting to be in poverty or be called lazy for not working these jobs in the first place. Everyone cannot go to college or be an engineer.
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  12387.  @brianmsahin  if you think being poor is a choice...I don't know what else to say. That being said, I'm in community college now, working towards a fourth year university. I want a bachelor's degree in physics. It isn't easy, but it sucks I have to live in poverty when I know many other students have to do no such thing, and are younger than me. I'm 29, but it wasn't fair what happened to me when I was younger- I chose to drop out of school and take care of my sick mom, who ultimately passed away. It was my choice to take care of her, but nobody should have to choose between school and family, only to not have both.
    1
  12388. correct. that is messed up.
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  12389. My problem as an incel with that: 1. I'm poor. Most incels are a NEET, or work, but work minimum wage, and are broke still. 2. I don't want a woman to sleep with me for money. I desire her to like me. You can't buy respect or love.
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  12390.  @capedeh8225  thank you for your insight.
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  12391. The problem is it empowers workers.
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  12392. The coworker was probably a Democrat.
    1
  12393. The reason democrats and Republicans differ in how to manage crime is because Republicans tend to believe individuals are the problem, not society. whereas Democrats believe the opposite.
    1
  12394. Because they're protected by the police.
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  12395.  @08techgrad  it's called just world fallacy.
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  12396. Ok
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  12397. That's evil.
    1
  12398. If only we could accept unrestricted nuclear power... Since we can't use fusion, antimatter or singularity power.
    1
  12399. That's obvious....
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  12400.  @darkrailroader8692  correct. Poverty is a policy choice.
    1
  12401. Higher cost of living and higher taxes
    1
  12402. Republicans use communist fear mongering to hide their real desire: they use poverty to coerce poor people into minimum wage jobs and slave wages
    1
  12403.  @gustav4539  you're right
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  12404.  @mickael486  that doesn't change their productivity.
    1
  12405. I'll try harder
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  12406. Yep
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  12407. Ok
    1
  12408. That made me cry.
    1
  12409. I'm trying to lose my vcard and provide incels hope
    1
  12410. That's depressing....
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  12411. Lololol minimum wage jobs are no such thing. Unless you think a $2 raise makes you a millionaire. Minimum wage jobs are dead end they don't give you skills. Nor enough money to pursue college.
    1
  12412. Lolol get a 2nd job at minimum wage?
    1
  12413. Just-world fallacy
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  12414. What you're highlighting is the real reason ubi won't be implemented: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits ​ @guncolony 
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  12415. I have to win scholarships and grants in order to finish community college because I'm poor. Screw USA system.
    1
  12416. Everyone can't access Pell grants. Pell grants don't cover the full cost of college. Birth control will not stop poor women from having sex or kids. The system is the problem, the system creates poverty to ensure there is a desperate workforce.
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  12417. The ideological reason is simple:They don't want poor people to become middle class via ANY Government policy. THE economic reason is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  12418.  @tylr3669  wtf.
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  12419. Ok
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  12420. That's even worse.
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  12421. Exactly.
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  12422. LOL.
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  12423. I don't believe someone shouldn't be able to live because they work some arbitrarily named "entry-level job."
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  12424.  @justinthompson2887 Most entry-level positions are dead-end and give you no skills. Working harder does not necessarily mean you will be promoted. It isn't feasible to expect everyone to all be promoted. you cannot promote everyone out of an entry-level job. At Walmart, maybe 1 out of 100 people get promoted, only to make one or two dollars more an hour. It's all hogwash. I've been a cashier at Walmart and many other places for years, and I never got promoted. Me working harder never got me anywhere. In the case of minimum wage, you keep paid the same pittance regardless of how hard you work.
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  12425.  @justinthompson2887  because you need food, water and transportation to work any job, entry-level or not. I don't believe poverty is acceptable if you work a job called entry-level.
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  12426. I'm 29 now. I'm still a virgin and incel. 0:53
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  12427. Ok
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  12428. Wtf
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  12429. It won't change because the government wants to punish those who are unable to work
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  12430. Wow.
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  12431.  @BTrain-is8ch  What? Most poor people receive no government aid at all, the ones that do receive insufficient aid still.
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  12432.  @alarice2136  people who need pell grants are poor. People who need loans were poor or close to it at the time of borrowing.
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  12433. @BTrain-is8ch  medicaid has several restrictions, the first being that you have to work. The 2nd is that you can't be ABAWD- able-bodied and without dependents. The third is that the income level for current poverty is too low. There are states that either didn't expand medicaid at all or partially expanded it. This leaves millions uninsured despite being poor. Food stamps and other programs have restrictions as well. It isn't simply "you are poor, you receive aid."
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  12434. @BTrain-is8ch  1. Why shouldn't it be that way? Aid for poor citizens is to help poor citizens. Why have a hospital where only certain sick people get treated, no questions asked, but others shouldn't be helped at all? Why be selective? 2. I didn't say no help at all. I said, "Poor people don't receive as much help as rich people." They don't. Rich people receive trillions with no strings attached, despite already being rich. Trillions have been spent to fight poverty, but it wasn't enough to end poverty. Providing money for low income housing means nothing when rent is $1,500/month. Homes are over $400k.
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  12435. Exactly.
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  12436. Survivorship bias.
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  12437. Jesus christ.
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  12438. Reagan made education expensive because he believed poor people don't deserve to be educated.
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  12439. I go to a community college that's $5,000/semester. Not to mention, these institutions don't cover living expenses.
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  12440. I want to lose my virginity. I'm 28.
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  12441. Why do politicians always focus on the middle class? They act like poor people don't exist. Poor people have problems too.
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  12442.  @ashleybishop7248  the money would come without nutritional restrictions. I get food stamps myself but can't buy hot food. It sucks.
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  12443.  @TRD-667  but politicians don't want to end wage slavery. They want to force poor people to accept dead-end jobs.
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  12444. @robertjohnson8242  Republicans are heartless bastards. They believe all poor people are minorities and hate minoritie poor people will have too much bargaining power. This Is why conservatives oppose welfare
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  12445. Trump cut welfare for the poor but increased it for the rich. He's evil.
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  12446. In their eyes? Anything less than 500k. Also 400k is adjusted income... So gross income is over 500k.
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  12447. Right..... because they are poor. They can't afford to do that....
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  12448. Ok
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  12449. ​ @noahpartic7586 Yes.
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  12450. ​ @cfltheman yep.
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  12451.  @ernststravoblofeld  that made me cry.
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  12452. ​ @darkshadowrule2952 yep.
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  12453.  @Bluefox40k  she needed debt to go to college. But her feat isn't easy.
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  12454.  @Bluefox40k  LOL I just got it
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  12455. Yep
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  12456. ​ @noblepursuit591  Noone is owed anything? So women don't deserve to vote? Noone is owed freedom of speech?
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  12457.  @noblepursuit591  so answer my question then. Are women owed voting?
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  12458.  @noblepursuit591  if you pay taxes, it's your money being given to the government, not someone else's.
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  12459. @Noble Pursuit  I don't understand you want them to be able to vote and be drafted?
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  12460. @Noble Pursuit  many people, liberals and conservatives, in USA and many other countries, believe women deserve voting, but do NOT believe people deserve anything else(healthcare. Education. Living wage. Clean environment). I don't know why there's a discrepancy there.
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  12461. @Noble Pursuit  If we truly cared about ending poverty, we would be willing to tolerate whatever consequences in fighting against their poverty. We do this to help women have autonomy, such as voting. But we embrace all of the changes because we believe women having autonomy makes the world a better place. We are not willing to tolerate the consequences for ending poverty. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty. Voting laws are not like the weather: something you observe and predict but cannot control. a living wage minimum wage is not like the weather: something you observe and predict but cannot control. we can structure our society around a living wage just like we do around voting. Poverty is like women's suffrage: a policy choice. One that our government chooses to enact over and over again.
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  12462. Survivorship bias.
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  12463. Republicans want to perpetuate poverty.
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  12464. ​ @orphaotheseeker2770 yep
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  12465. Diamonds are artificially scarce.
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  12466. That would make the minimum wage $61/hr.
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  12467. You misunderstand politicians. politicians don't want to end poverty because they need a sprawling labor force under the boot of corporations.
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  12468. That's messed up
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  12469. that's awful. trump hates disabled people too.
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  12470. What you're using here is facts, THAT is your problem. The real reason many people oppose a living wage minimum wage is because they believe it's immoral for poor people to demand a status of life they do not deserve.
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  12471. Many people hate a living wage minimum wage because they believe poor people are asking to be paid more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  12472. ​ @Ronnet wtf
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  12473. Yep.
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  12474. I'm trying to lose my virginity
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  12475. Ubi doesn't work because it empowers poor people.
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  12476. ​ @MrObsvenchilde yep
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  12477. Rich people want poverty to exist in order to do society's dirty work. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  12478. Yep
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  12479. Yep
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  12480.  @pushinp157  college and healthcare are unaffordable, most jobs do not pay well. Minimum wage is $10,000-$20,000 a year, no amount of intelligence or hard work can change that.
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  12481.  @pushinp157  coming up with $100k without loans or grants if you're poor or middle class is unaffordable. Noone should be in debt attending college. As affordable as you make it? If college students could set tuition themselves, it'd be $5 at most. It is unaffordable for poor americans because there's a massive Medicaid gap and even Medicaid coverage has limits.
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  12482.  @pushinp157  federal student aid isn't guaranteed and doesn't cover costs for books, healthcare, or housing
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  12483.  @pushinp157  $2500 for a community college is unaffordable for any poor person, let alone $25,000.
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  12484.  @pushinp157  the bigger problems are unaffordable college and the working class has lost its power
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  12485.  @pushinp157  40% leaves millions more with crushing debt. 30k is still a huge number compared to 0. My point remains on community college's cost.
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  12486.  @pushinp157  politicians pass policies that go against what most Americans want. Most Americans want free college, medicare for all, higher taxes on the rich, an end to the middle eastern wars, cancellation of student loan debt, and universal basic income/monthly stimulus checks.
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  12487. I lost SNAP because of work requirements. I don't work at all because I focus on school.
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  12488. Merit.
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  12489. Are you implying prostitution?
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  12490.  @julius-stark  ok.
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  12491.  @julius-stark  but prostitution is illegal and expensive.
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  12492.  @julius-stark  I didn't realize that.
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  12493.  @julius-stark  I'll save up money to do that
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  12494. Fox news doesn't want an educated populace so people can be wage slaves.
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  12495. I've been lazy. But also been using apps. Something isn't right.
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  12496. Rich people and conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty because it's a reward for their service being worthless.
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  12497.  @Tavat  the reason they believe that is because if the system is flawed then individual effort can only get you so far. In essence, it would nullify effort. Imagine if I could get a medical degree just by asking- I'd still be a doctor but that process renders individual effort pointless.
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  12498.  @helene420  conservatives tend to lack empathy.
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  12499.  @helene420  I've noticed something, if we truly cared about ending poverty, we would tolerate whatever consequences in fighting against their poverty. We do this for women and voting, but we have a fundamental belief that women deserve voting so we are willing to tolerate these consequences. We do not like to tolerate the consequences for ending poverty. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending Poverty.
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  12500.  @helene420  thank you. i noticed that about women and i hope i can bring about world peace by helping people realize this.
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  12501. @Anonymous Thoughts You can write in the constitution that one job must pay enough to people for them to not be in poverty. Enough for he/she to live. Our government finds poverty wages acceptable. Republicans even more so, since they prioritize business owners profits/livelihood over workers making enough money to live.
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  12502.  Don Doe  We all believe women deserve to vote despite our different experiences. if we can be unified behind that we can be unified behind anything we want. We choose to have fundamentally incompatible ideologies when it comes to things like healthcare and education.
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  12503. @Anonymous Thoughts You can outlaw companies from charging more, crime is a policy choice as well. All the subsidies that are given to corporations can be stripped from them and given to small businesses to adjust to a higher wage. This is assuming there's no increase demand for products.
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  12504. @Anonymous Thoughts I'm aware of the difference between positive versus negative rights. That doesn't change what I said. We can prioritize whatever we want and entitle people to whatever we want. Such as healthcare or higher minimum wage. And considering the United States hasn't raised the minimum wage at all in over 10 years I already know it doesn't prioritize ending poverty like it does women's suffrage anyway.
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  12505. Ok
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  12506. Wow
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  12507. Lol
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  12508.  @jamisonreynolds9949  If it was possible for anyone to move out of a minimum wage job are you implying that all the people who stay in them for years or decades are lazy?
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  12509.  @jamisonreynolds9949  the cost of college is not within one's control.
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  12510.  @jamisonreynolds9949  you're right. Well the two careers I desire are: astrophysicist and screenwriter. The former I could apply for scholarships for to be able to afford college. The latter requires no college education at all and I even succeeded at it temporarily.
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  12511.  @jamisonreynolds9949  I swear many people say that too. Anyways I can't go to the military because of several health related problems. It was my fault I lost financial assistance for college but with the cost of college now there's no way to afford it out Of pocket. So I guess in a way it is my fault for not trying hard enough to escape minimum wage.
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  12512.  @jamisonreynolds9949  100K at 25? I guess what you're saying is that anyone can escape minimum wage/poverty with enough effort.
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  12513.  @jamisonreynolds9949  okay. Well I think if I work hard enough I'll become an astrophysicist and screenwriter one day. Me complaining about being a cashier has gotten me to closer to my goal of finishing school.
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  12514. Correct.
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  12515. And ban him from trading stocks forever.
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  12516. Hahaha
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  12517. Wow.
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  12518. That's still a poverty income.
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  12519. It's one of three reasons gop hates welfare. The second reason is poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  12520.  @markduncan1149  it's only 50k.....
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  12521. $220 million
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  12522. To admonish the poor
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  12523. That's the point
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  12524. Correct.
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  12525. Exactly
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  12526. Business leaders chose to create poverty wage jobs.
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  12527.  @bryana8383  correct. Politicians believe poverty is okay. It's something to sweep under the rug.
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  12528.  @bryana8383  correct.
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  12529. Yep
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  12530. Correct.
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  12531.  @KevinJohnson-cv2no  they sure do succeed with the help of others.
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  12532. All right
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  12533. I need a car but can't afford one as a cashier at a supermarket
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  12534. Exactly.
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  12535. I'm incel
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  12536. I hope I get my debt erased. I also hope to get education grants to finish community college.
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  12537.  @cindyp5132  to perpetuate poverty.
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  12538. @cindyp5132  worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  12539. Lack of compassion.
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  12540. 1. Corporations demand degrees for too many jobs 2. There are not enough grants to help all poor people. The number of people in poverty is 140 million, 43% of the population. 3. I am on the fence
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  12541.  @drugin4168  trust me I know that too. I spent nearly a decade taking care of my sick mom, who ultimately passed away, over going to community college. I'm in community college at 29, but A. The tuition is way too high, even with financial aid($1300 couldn't get me to 12 credits) B. I can't afford living expenses (community colleges don't cover it) C. I might have to take care of my disabled brother, which I might have to decide not to, because it would interfere with school. D. If I could win large enough grants and/or scholarships, I'd be stress-free from a financial standpoint.
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  12542. 3. I now agree with point #3
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  12543. I agree with #2
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  12544. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education grant?
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  12545. Exactly.
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  12546.  @exiledanon1406  why?
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  12547.  @stringtheories9820  exactly.
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  12548. Yep
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  12549. So policies can't change? The economy can't change? Yes a summer job. That's why there Is no fast food in winter. College isn't affordable.
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  12550.  @1958PonyBoy  news flash. There are almost no good paying jobs anywhere. Half the workforce is in poverty. Markets are regulated by the government.
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  12551.  @1958PonyBoy  1. Above 80k a year. 2. All of those jobs require a degree(besides policing and firemen). Actually even certain police agencies require a college degree now. Our government does not support free college nor free trade school. And you can't afford college making minimum wage. 3. I don't know when being a cashier became worse than being a rapist. 4. Service industry replaced manufacturing industry(paying middle class wages)forcing people to migrate into these low paying jobs. 5. If those(or most jobs) paid well we wouldn't have a workforce where 44% of workers make less than $35k a year, 73% of workers make $55k a year, 140 million people are poor/low-income, tens of millions of people use welfare like food stamps(and welfare does not reach all poor people at that). 6. Markets are regulated by governments, so I don't know what you're upset about. 7. Most workers don't have enough bargaining power to make what they are worth. A cashier is in no position to demand $30/hr, let alone $45.
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  12552.  @1958PonyBoy  well I want to be an aerospace engineer. Unfortunately those require college degrees. No company I'd training a high school graduate. Not that I'm aware of.
    1
  12553. In his manifesto, he mentioned using a hooker doesn't offer genuine affection.
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  12554. Is that a joke? I used tinder for 5 years and never got laid. I got one or two matches a month.
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  12555. Inflation is a risk.
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  12556. They share the same beliefs: hard work alone creates success,anyone can become rich, etc.
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  12557. It makes my blood boil.
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  12558. I'm black and broke.
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  12559. There is no free college.
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  12560. @psquare2260  not everyone can afford college, certainly not on a minimum wage job. I don't think having kids should condemn anyone to poverty. Millions of poor people exist that have no criminal record.
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  12561. @psquare2260  my point is not everyone can wake up tomorrow, and afford to go to 4 year university or even trade school. Parents are not obligated to pay for their kids college at any age of the child or at any time. You're arguing for eugenics if you believe only middle class and rich people deserve to have children.
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  12562. @psquare2260  1. Loans wouldn't be needed if college was tuition free in the first place. I don't want to go on a side rant about student loans. The least of which Is being poor doesn't qualify you for help. I want parents to help their kids, I'm just saying the government isn't making parents helping their kids an obligation (after 18). Poor people don't want to be poor. They certainly don't want their kids to have worse lives than themselves. Not everyone can avoid having kids unless people stopped having sex or population control. I in no way support a one child policy.
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  12563. I'm a poor community college student. I want to be a physicist, but for the time being, I will have to rely on welfare to get by, unless or hopefully until I can win a full ride scholarship.
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  12564. It's messed up.
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  12565. Yep
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  12566. Yes.
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  12567. I want sex(to lose my virginity). George wanted CONTROL.
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  12568.  @kooken58  local minimum wages are not much higher.
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  12569.  @GuardTheSound  you're admitting the economy is designed to provide jobs that can only be done at low costs at low wages. That poverty is a policy choice.
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  12570.  @CygnusOrb  except many people hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty. They view working minimum wage as a punishment. It's not about logic.
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  12571. ​ @matthewmencel5978  why not?
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  12572.  @MrJturner74  not everyone can increase their skills, there aren't enough high paying jobs for everyone to do that. Even if there was, there'd still be demand for fast food and supermarket workers.
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  12573.  @MrJturner74  you're also saying it's more important to mitigate the risk of automation than it is to empower poor people.
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  12574.  @MrJturner74  I'm in community college right now, planning on transferring to a 4 year school, to pursue bachelor's degree in physics. While I'm doing that, I'm restricted to minimum wage jobs and relying on welfare.
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  12575.  @pollypurree1834  I'm 29. My point is this: all priorities are not created equal. And the real reason many people oppose a living wage is a moral issue: you/others believe poor people don't deserve a living wage.
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  12576.  @pollypurree1834  ok
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  12577.  @michaelkeegan9260  1. Again, all priorities are not created equal. Economics exists because we are not capable of helping everyone. Ideology causes conflict because we're not willing to help everyone as well. 2. Objections to a living wage minimum wage don't necessarily manifest arguments in support of poverty. People complain the effects would be similar to what happened at the start of this pandemic, but increased to levels beyond comprehension: automation, unemployment, inflation, tax hikes, skyrocketing national deficit, etc.. 3. This doesn't reveal people's love of poverty per se, but rather our opposition to the massive changes/consequences that would result from combatting poverty. 4. Nor are these concerns unfounded. Inflation might surge, many millions of jobs might be lost. Corporations might invest far more money into outsourcing. The real test of our political values is based on the risks we are not willing to tolerate, and it is worker solidarity, not the perpetuation of poverty, as unacceptable. 5. Many people do have a moral opposition to a living wage. I will concede and admit you and many others do not. It was wrong of me to assume that.
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  12578.  @michaelkeegan9260  I believe my comment got shadow banned.
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  12579.  @michaelkeegan9260  I can't see my replies now
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  12580. ​​​ @michaelkeegan9260 there is nothing complex about what I am saying. Not everyone can "work their way up" to manager or supervisor role. Only so many higher level jobs exist. There would still be a demand for cashiers tomorrow like there is today even if everyone could do that. I'm saying many people think lowly of minimum wage workers. Not you in particular.
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  12581. Yep.
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  12582. I'm a cashier at a supermarket. I'm kept part-time to avoid receiving benefits like health insurance, but I also cannot get medicaid because I'm past 25 without kids or disabilities
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  12583. Ok
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  12584. Yep
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  12585. If rich people had no disdain for lower classes, then private schools wouldn't exist.
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  12586. Wow.
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  12587. ​ @ilexevergreen5405  It's called Calvinism.
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  12588. No minimum wage anywhere in the world offers a middle class lifestyle.
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  12589. Correct.
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  12590. As to why he hates the poor idk.
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  12591. You cannot remove money or religion from politics.
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  12592.  @CapitalistDeathCult  poor people like myself can't afford to run for office.
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  12593.  @CapitalistDeathCult  okay I believe you
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  12594. relative to poverty
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  12595. It increased income threshold allowing for Medicaid expansion, but states could opt out of Medicaid expansion or add paperwork, leading to this video.
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  12596. Conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty and destitution. Rich people want these jobs to exist but believe poor people are inferior at the same time. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  12597. ​ @RebeccaOre exactly.
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  12598.  @goodtroublemaker143  no?
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  12599. ​@sopranos45yes
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  12600. Exactly.
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  12601. Beautiful.
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  12602.  @ChillAssTurtle  doctors would never accept minimum wage jobs. They would never accept a job that paid them so little they would need welfare or debt to make up the difference for low pay. They have skills to demand a high wage. Skill gives you power. The ultimate form of power, however, is money. The real reason we don't have robust welfare programs or ubi is because workers would have the power to be doctors: reject jobs that didn't pay them enough.
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  12603. I feel like a loser because I'm a virgin at 28.
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  12604.  @haveabanana2930  I know the problem. I have no skills and no independence, which in turn contributes to my poverty and social isolation. If I could afford college/be independent and was a successful screenwriter I'd have no trouble meeting women.
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  12605.  @haveabanana2930  but as it stands I'm basically a man child. Working as a cashier and intern I'm poor and I have no license or car. It's my fault why women don't like me
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  12606.  @haveabanana2930  thank you and I will!
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  12607. Yep
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  12608.  @Boris80b  yes.
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  12609.  @Kthb80  what if you included debt to income ratio?
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  12610.  @Kthb80  i know. but what i meant was this: someone with a middle class income and high debt has the same disposable income as someone with a poverty level income with no debt(but welfare to make up the difference). For example, you making $75,000/year with auto loan, student loan, and credit card debt has the same disposable income($60 a month) as I do(working minimum wage and using welfare).
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  12611.  @Kthb80  yeah. I know.
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  12612. Exactly.
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  12613. ​ @faithalessandri1879 exactly
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  12614. I'm trying
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  12615. Way more. Tax corporations 500% more than the amount their employees use in welfare benefits.
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  12616. ​ @GPFaster1  sounds like you're opposed to this as a moral issue: that a living wage pays more money to people who don't deserve it.
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  12617. I live in a state that didn't expand medicaid.
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  12618. We have so much poverty because inflation has made living impossible without welfare or debt.
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  12619. Because it's about deservedness. Your brother prioritizes not helping people who might need it than helping people who don't need support who want it
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  12620. ​ @neuchaos exactly.
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  12621. ​ @unknown-by9kf this story is survivorship bias. Everyone can't do this.
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  12622. Ok
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  12623. Reading this made me cry.
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  12624. Beautiful to hear!
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  12625. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education grant?
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  12626. I'm 29 years old. I've never kissed or had sex.
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  12627. I'm. A. Virgin.
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  12628. Men whine. I've never hugged, held hands. Kissed. Or had sex Or dated I'm nearly 30.
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  12629. Yep
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  12630. ​@aaronsinger6363my state denied Medicaid expansion, leaving me with no healthcare at 26 despite making $10/hr
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  12631. ​ @laurie_guilbeau work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  12632. Yes
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  12633. Because politicians do get want to end poverty.
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  12634. You'd need to be a millionaire or billionaire to be middle class now.
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  12635. That's messed up.
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  12636. So many poor people
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  12637. I'm happy for him. What are you talking about?
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  12638. Yes. And the fact poor people will refuse minimum wage jobs if on welfare.
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  12639. ​ @keegankailey7309 You're blaming the individual not the system. Education is not like buying a sports car, education is meant to be for everyone who wants to do it. Rich or poor. Not everyone wants to be a trade worker. Don't be mad at students be mad at politicians wanting to gatekeep education.
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  12640. ​ @keegankailey7309 the system itself is the problem, not the student. There shouldn't be student loans in the first place. Education costs went up due to the government not prioritizing education. Rather, the deeper problem is student loans exist as a wall to prevent poor and lower middle class people from having education. Vouchers are doing the same thing but for K-12 schools. As for doctors and lawyers, yes, their prices would come down if the government made it a priority to do so. Like most other developed countries do.
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  12641. That's what I want..yes. Free college yes. And the cost of education has to be paid by someone. That's a good thing, don't you want people that make more money, pay more in taxes, not need welfare? I don't get it. ​ @keegankailey7309 
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  12642. ​ @keegankailey7309 My reply was deleted.
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  12643. ​ @keegankailey7309 my replies are gone
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  12644.  @NOYFB982  why? Not everyone can be skilled. There are way more low paying unskilled jobs than skilled ones. Everyone can't go off and be rocket scientists and doctors. Not everyone can even work.
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  12645.  @NOYFB982  I can't see my replies now. I hate this.
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  12646.  @NOYFB982  let me know if you see my replies.
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  12647.  @NOYFB982  I hate YouTube filter system. I don't know if my replies are being deleted or shadow banned.
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  12648.  @NOYFB982  I said not everyone can gain skills or steady employment due to poverty, disability, mental Illness, and other factors beyond their control.
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  12649. ​ @reinsmano why is the value of a fast food worker lower than that of a paralegal?
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  12650.  @reinsmano  I don't understand why people have such disdain for minimum wage workers in particular. It isn't about the job not requiring a degree or training, because actors and news anchors make millions of dollars and aren't treated with the same disdain cashiers are. On some level, the minimum wage debate isn't about the minimum wage. What it is really about is the fact many people want a lower class of people not just economically that makes less, but ideologically is seen as less/inferior.
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  12651.  @reinsmano  it is about seeing people as inferior(not for you, but many others). There's nothing ignorant about this. If working and being in poverty was deemed intolerable by society, if ending poverty through this mechanism was the top priority, then all other priorities would pay the price. If inflation, automation, unemployment magnified, then so be it. Since society is not willing to go this far, then continued poverty is not deemed intolerable.
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  12652.  @reinsmano  how is it idealistic to state all priorities are not created equal? I don't know how to else state that. Poverty is a policy choice, and the minimum wage being at where it's at right now proves it. In a way, poor people are forced to take such jobs now because welfare isn't robust. By that I mean poor people have no incentive to work such jobs since welfare, an income grant, pays more than what can be earned from minimum wage employment. I.e. a $10.50/hr cashier wage cannot pay for food, housing, childcare, health insurance for a single person, much less family. Which is what welfare accomplishes. Which is why welfare is restricted. UBI would run into the same problem, which is why it is opposed now.
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  12653.  @reinsmano  basically what I'm saying is people support poverty. It is a simple math problem: any income grant that can lift everyone out of poverty pays more than minimum wage jobs, so politicians either end up with a situation of people being dependent on welfare and not working, or dependent on working poverty wage jobs with no welfare, trapping people in poverty either way. Since people say minimum wage jobs deserve to pay poverty wages/not compete or exceed welfare, the only options left are to either eliminate such jobs or force poor people into taking them. And yes, by restricting welfare/UBI with workfare, this coercion is not only created by supported.
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  12654.  @reinsmano  1. Then we'll disagree on believing poverty can or cannot be eliminated/isn't a policy choice. 2. Inflation is not at the heart of the minimum wage debate. What at its core the minimum wage is about is the fact many people believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty, both in an absolute and relative sense. 3. I've already stated inflation is an acceptable risk. As is the case with unemployment and business bankruptcy. 4. I've already stated the core problem with both UBI and welfare: that income grants large enough to lift everyone out of poverty pays more than minimum wage jobs. It doesn't matter if inflation stops tomorrow. If you pay a cashier $10/hr, and you also as a matter of principle fund an income grant that can cover their medical expenses, food, childcare, transportation, housing, and let's not forget college tuition too(since Pell grants are essentially income grants for poor people as well), then the income grant will pay more than low wage work. Unless healthcare in America costed literal pennies Or cashiers were permitted to make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year if not per month, which converted to an hourly wage is far above $20/hr, (cost of healthcare in USA is outrageous obviously) then any income grant that covers the current cost of healthcare would erase any possible compensation that can be earned from a minimum wage job. It's like me pointing out that doctors don't need food stamps, and having to argue other points like inflation. Even if inflation stopped Tomorrow, a doctor will make far more than enough money to erase any possible compensation from welfare.
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  12655.  @reinsmano  okay, then you're saying it's more important to mitigate the risk of inflation, automation and unemployment than accept the risk of cashiers making $20/hr. That is admitting you aren't willing to pay such a price to helping MW workers.
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  12656.  @reinsmano  I just looked up an inflation calculator. $10.50/hr in 1913 is equivalent to $335/hr today. Or $696,000/year. If that truly is correct, then inflation is like a tax that would require everyone to be millionaires or billionaires in order to avoid.
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  12657.  @reinsmano  they have several terrible motives. But the main one is like you said: control. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs, only the poor and unskilled do. Welfare is one mechanism that increases the bargaining power of poor/unskilled workers, which is the real reason welfare/universal basic income programs are opposed by corporations and the government. If poor people have no access to such programs, then they are forced to work for the crummy wages corporations offer. Especially to those cashiers. That's all I'm saying.
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  12658.  @reinsmano  my compassion is genuine. I did not realize how extreme inflation is. Yes, if I made $335/hr when I was a cashier, then I would have never needed welfare like I did.
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  12659. New name: corporate cucks.
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  12660. Easy for you to say you're a woman.
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  12661. Correct.
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  12662. People act like the economy is some mystical entity that's set in stone.
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  12663. Because people don't believe unskilled workers deserve a decent life.
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  12664. ​ @antoniomunoz8544 Thanks
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  12665. Blame corporations for removing the skills out of these jobs, and capitalism for judging people by skills.
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  12666.  @Daniel-gs9eh  all.jobs should keep you out of poverty, period.
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  12667. The real reason conservatives hate a living wage is because their ethical code says it's immoral to pay more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  12668. Poor people lack bargaining power.
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  12669. That's so messed up.
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  12670. Amazing how easy corporations can get taxpayer money but not the poor.
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  12671. ​ @CapnCody1622 exactly
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  12672. I'm confused as well.
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  12673. Correct.
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  12674. ​ @Beelzeboogie that's messed up
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  12675. Obviously LOL.
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  12676. ​ @Flash9230 exactly
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  12677. ​ @ms.bunniesarecute2287 thank you
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  12678. Yes.
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  12679. Disgusting isn't it?
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  12680. @aidancollins1591 only the independently wealthy hold the job now anyway, and poor people can't afford to run for office now anyway.
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  12681. @aidancollins1591 I see. Maybe having some type of public fund to where any candidate gets more than 5% of the popular vote, and they don't have to pay the money back. I think the OPs point was to force politicians to care about poverty. Unfortunately, thinking poverty is acceptable is something deep within that person's heart, that isn't something a salary decrease or or tax increase will change.
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  12682. Rofl
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  12683.  @Tripple_Threatt92  it's like they support poverty
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  12684. They know this but don't care ​ @Dax_Navious 
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  12685. ​ @arlandolittle7625 more.
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  12686. Sounds like you think poor people don't deserve to make that much money, and that it's unfair for them to be paid more money than you think they are worth
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  12687. Wtf
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  12688. Because the rich need poverty to exist.
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  12689. Hookers don't offer real affection.
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  12690. He retired when the vice president of the United States helped kill the $15 minimum wage.
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  12691. Higher profit sharing and more benefits for employees.
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  12692. No I'm not.
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  12693. Correct. The current poverty level is kept artificially low to mask the true magnitude of poverty. There are roughly 140 million poor people in this country.
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  12694.  @yournanna866  yep. I forgot to add welfare is restricted to force poor people into dogshit minimum wage jobs.
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  12695.  @stuffnuns  yep
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  12696. Kyle should focus on poverty and education.
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  12697. ​ @SapientGalaxy The real reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  12698. Exactly.
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  12699. The reason that conservatives are not proposing alternatives it's because they have no desire to help the poor.
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  12700.  @thedayisnigh5886  wrong mindset LOL.
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  12701.  @fortheloveofnoise  lol.
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  12702. Exactly.
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  12703. Ok
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  12704. White collar crime steals far more money than blue collar crime, I know.
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  12705. If you banned eople from being paid in stock and other Investments hedge fund managers would not be making billions every year. Steve cohen makes $2.3 billion a year. Another hedge fund manager makes $3.8 billion.
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  12706. None.
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  12707. Correct
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  12708. Politicians can end poverty it's not among their priorities
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  12709. ​ @christopherbohanan4453 yep
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  12710.  @manisha.n86  haha
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  12711. My replies are gone
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  12712. Yep
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  12713. Correct.
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  12714. Yep.
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  12715. Wtf
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  12716. To ensure employers can pay slave wages
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  12717. I agree
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  12718. Because they believe poor women don't deserve to have kids.
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  12719. If it was 30-40 an hour, then that's crazy
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  12720. No.
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  12721. Except if the job is low skill there is no "proving your worth," the job is dead-end by definition.
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  12722. Working class people didn't need a college degree back in the fifties through seventies to become middle class. We have almost nothing but service sector jobs now.
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  12723. What Republicans don't say is that they don't believe everyone deserves to be middle class or Rich
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  12724. AND GAIN TOO MUCH POWER
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  12725. Yep.
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  12726. So am I.
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  12727. There is no politically feasible way of limiting the right to reproduce
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  12728. EXACTLY!!!
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  12729. Then what was she thinking??
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  12730.  @kurtwpg  she's an idiot then.
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  12731.  @kurtwpg  ah ok.
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  12732. Incels think sex will make them happy
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  12733. Who can teleport?
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  12734.  @pleaseenteraname1103  why not?
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  12735.  @pleaseenteraname1103  why is not meant to be a living wage? Why is it acceptable to never challenge this notion?
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  12736.  @pleaseenteraname1103  they are not entry-level jobs for many people anymore. If small businesses get destroyed then so be it. Paying poverty wages is wrong just like murder is.
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  12737.  @pleaseenteraname1103  I don't need to read either because I realized something about the minimum wage and poverty: if you oppose a living wage then you oppose women having the right to vote. Poverty is like women's suffrage, not a universal law of nature like gravity. If we truly cared about ending poverty, we would tolerate whatever consequences necessary in fighting against poverty. We do this for women's suffrage, but we have a fundamental belief women deserve autonomy so we are willing to tolerate these consequences. We do not like to suffer the consequences in ending poverty, therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty. You're sitting here criticizing a $15/hr minimum wage when kamala Harris is vice president. So making a woman VP, one of the greatest achievements for women in all of human history, we don't complain. Providing 0.00001% of that same amount of support for poor people(living wage) is ridiculous.
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  12738.  @pleaseenteraname1103  I'm saying poverty is a policy choice like giving women the right to vote. Just because something is designed to be a certain way doesn't mean the design can't change. Women were denied voting by design but we thought it was wrong eventually so we provided women with voting/changed the design.
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  12739. Wow.
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  12740. What?
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  12741. ​ @Elvamp I give up labeling myself an incel
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  12742. Survivorship bias
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  12743. You can't.
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  12744. I'm an incel loser.
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  12745. Yep
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  12746. ​ @purplesprigs that's crazy
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  12747. ROFL. because you don't need food if you wish for such a thing hard enough. I didn't realize poor people are wizards.. .poor people work like everybody else. They aren't lazy.
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  12748. Yes you would be in between destinations as you pass Through the Wormhole, because the Wormhole is a literal tunnel through space, whereas the bubbles are just the entrances and exits to that tunnel.
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  12749. It's about priorities
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  12750. Yes
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  12751. Inflation is an acceptable risk.
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  12752. Poverty is intolerable to me, not to corporations.
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  12753. Men do it all the time. Women do too, just not as often.
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  12754. ​ @Miodrag.Vukomanovic wow
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  12755. You cannot enforce poor women being banned from having kids.
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  12756. Exactly.
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  12757. ​@Saber Wolves that's what people don't get. Not everyone can be engineers and managers.
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  12758. That's messed up
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  12759.  @herpetolgyprodigy  because that argument is based on just world fallacy.
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  12760. i'm virgin incel, but i'm poor and have no car.
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  12761. ​exactly @BEESANDTOASTY 
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  12762. ​ @Thebobbyman yes
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  12763. @erich6860  what you're failing to see is the real reason conservatives oppose living wage: because their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. Conservatives oppose welfare because they're heartless bastards and because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  12764.  @ardreambystander6988  they look down on cashiers
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  12765. @ardreambystander6988  they hate minimum wage workers and Believe they deserve poverty.
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  12766.  @crazy9932  would that be moral?
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  12767. @crazy9932  exactly. I couldn't pick up on if your comment was sarcasm. By the way, you hit the nail on the head the REAL reason conservatives oppose living wage: their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. A cashier making $100,000/year would NOT be universally supported like women's suffrage.
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  12768. @crazy9932  conservatives won't realize it because they believe in just-world fallacy. This is the mistaken idea that if you just work hard, everything will turn out fine. They don't see the world as is. They see it as a fantasy world where everything works out. To admit things don't always work out is to admit, you can not control everything. Thus poor people are lazy and don't deserve welfare. If you bring up the fact that most poor people who receive welfare already work, they don't care. If you bring up the fact that getting a job does not guarantee you health care. they don't care about that either.
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  12769.  @crazy9932  I think my comment was deleted. I don't understand why my comments get deleted.
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  12770. @crazy9932  basically, I was saying conservatives believe in just-world fallacy. Thus every problem is an individual choice that can be overcome with enough hard work.
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  12771. ​ @crazy9932 thanks for hearing me out
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  12772. Thanks​ @Shorty_Lickens 
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  12773.  @crazy9932  wow.
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  12774. Yep
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  12775. ​@Hooyahfish Inflation in groceries makes that unaffordable for minimum wage workers as well.
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  12776. Yep. I'm a college student and a cashier and an intern and a volunteer at once. But I make less than $300 a week. I can't afford to go to dinner myself, let alone with someone else. I spent seventy seven dollars going to the movies with one other person. And I had to be driven there to even afford that.
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  12777. Because the core point is the GOP believes poor people don't deserve education or societal advancement
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  12778. ​ @elisawhitman8526 exactly
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  12779. It's called just-world fallacy
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  12780. You're evil
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  12781. Immigrants aren't the problem
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  12782. It's greedy corporations in heartless politicians
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  12783. Fox News never invites the poor to talk about poverty.
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  12784. Correct.
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  12785. My state banned pornhub
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  12786.  @hermeticmoth  YES.
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  12787. They haven't.
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  12788.  @wd8640  there isn't an issue.
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  12789. What they're really saying is they think unskilled workers don't deserve a decent life
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  12790. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  12791.  @mattsgamingstuff5867  that's messed up.
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  12792. That's depriving women of reproductive rights
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  12793.  @Dennis-nc3vw  no. You are being moronic
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  12794.  @1loveharpo  ok
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  12795. Yes
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  12796. Because a hooker wouldn't like him.
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  12797. Sounds good
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  12798. That's all of Fox News LOL.
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  12799. I just want to lose my virginity.
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  12800. ​ @maryamdiao1509 I'm a virgin at 30 years old
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  12801. Policy.
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  12802. That's the thing Republicans don't believe everyone deserves to be middle class.
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  12803.  @treborkroy5280  most jobs aren't trade jobs. And trade jobs require a degree. And not everyone can do a trade job.
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  12804.  @treborkroy5280  how are what i said excuses
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  12805. I'd ban all donations outright. Politicians should only run based on formal debates about their policies.
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  12806.  @ronankerr7305  how would that be better than town halls/Q&A?
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  12807.  @ronankerr7305  for some reason I'm thinking of lincoln douglas debates
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  12808. No
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  12809. That's messed up.
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  12810.  @GUILLOTINE_GANG  yes, fuck him. I wish I could appear on Fox News to cuss out everyone. NO news station speaks up for poor people.
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  12811.  @GUILLOTINE_GANG  thanks. That wouldn't bother you? A poor student getting a full ride scholarship?
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  12812. We'll see
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  12813. ​ @MartianManHunter7 ok
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  12814. Not everyone can do what you did nor should they have to.
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  12815. Healthcare is scarce, thus it can't be a right
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  12816. Him giving away his wealth is nothing compared to the executive orders Biden can pass as POTUS that could reduce poverty.
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  12817. Because politicians don't want to.
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  12818. Yes
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  12819. Because they want people Trapped in poverty. They want poverty to remind service workers that they're less than human.
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  12820. Conservatives are also other wallet warriors. They get angry at other "lazy" people getting for free what successful people have to work for.
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  12821. It erases medical debt, which is what rich people oppose.
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  12822. Holy crap
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  12823.  @williampennjr.4448  That is just-world fallacy.
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  12824. walmart would collapse(first point) and to the question: correct.
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  12825. Yep
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  12826. Yep
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  12827. republicans don't like welfare because poor people won't slave away for corporations with robust welfare benefits.
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  12828. Ok
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  12829. Yep.
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  12830. New York implementation free college with a scholarship, but made part-time students exempt, increased full-time to 30 credits a year
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  12831. ​ @ElwoodBromfeld medicaid is awful and led to my mom's death. And I can't escape poverty with the low income and wealth thresholds. Medicaid is not great at all Many states implemented work requirements so many people lost medicaid.
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  12832.  @firefly9838  thanks
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  12833. ​ @synthdriver8817  exactly.
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  12834. That's the point. Republicans don't want poor people to be able to buy a house. They complain about poor people dependent on the government, but want them dependent on corporations. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. i made $10.50/hr as a cashier. $900/semester as an intern. Federal work study pays $12-$16/hr, 20 hours a week, no benefits.
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  12835. The poverty line is kept artificially low to avoid tackling true poverty.
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  12836. That's messed up.
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  12837. Okay
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  12838. Because it's just world fallacy. They believe rich people deserve government assistance but poor people don't.
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  12839.  @tonyl9636  wrong takeaway message but feel free to stay mad.
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  12840.  @tonyl9636  ok
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  12841.  @DannyYankou  you didn't read the rest of my comments here. I wasn't being serious. I was repeating what the stupid people who are news anchors on Fox News say and believe. They praise rich people receiving government aid, but criticize the poor for doing the same despite rich people not having earned a dime and being more expensive to help.
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  12842.  @DannyYankou  yes. Fox news anchors are heartless bastards for thinking otherwise
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  12843.  @mikemann1960  yes
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  12844. Okay
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  12845. Exactly
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  12846. ​ @larryforbes6718 okay
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  12847. Yes. It's terrible. But the poor have no power in government.
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  12848. The point is to perpetuate poverty, not eliminate it.
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  12849. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country
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  12850. YES
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  12851. Yep
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  12852. That's messed up
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  12853. College was far more subsidized by the government.
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  12854. Obviously.
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  12855. Don't hate illegal immigrants, hate the greedy corporations who want cheap labor. Only the poor and unskilled accept slave wages, so corporations want poverty to persist in order to coerce poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  12856. Correct.
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  12857. You can't buy intimacy
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  12858.  @TheNecessaryEvil  sometimes my notifications mess up.
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  12859. ​ @jras8652 yep.
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  12860. Hello again. Nice to see you again.
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  12861. The real reason conservatives hate a living wage is because their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn. They hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty. On some level, cashiers making $100k a year wouldn't be universally supported like women's suffrage.
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  12862. I hate to tell you something else. Worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once. The truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that USA finds unacceptable.
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  12863. It doesn't matter whether the job requires skill or not, the person has to be able to live, you can mandate a living wage just like we can mandate giving women the right to vote.
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  12864. All of those jobs you mentioned are dead end, they don't give you any skills, that's why the wage for them never increases, so what you're asking for is literally impossible. No matter how much time you spend as a cashier the job itself does not increase your education or level of responsibility, you will never make more money.
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  12865. Exactly
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  12866. Biden can.
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  12867. The poverty line has been recalculated. The modern measure of poverty would classify 140 million people as poor(instead of 45 million). The government won't accept this line because it would collapse all anti poverty programs
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  12868.  Ash Hegde  what makes you think they earned their wealth?
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  12869.  Ash Hegde  they didn't earn their wealth.
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  12870.  Ash Hegde  no.
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  12871. Because politicians don't want to end poverty.
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  12872. because many people think poor people don't deserve welfare.
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  12873. Because corporations deserve welfare
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  12874. Yep.
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  12875. ​ @Jake_808 why?
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  12876. ​@priest.damner yes
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  12877. 80%? Mate if that was true walmart workers would make 100k.
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  12878. Because Republicans want corporations to depress wages and use the saved money to donate to political campaigns.
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  12879. The government is bought by corporations.
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  12880.  @williampennjr.4448  Inflation happens regardless of what the minimum wage is. If businesses can't afford a $15/hr minimum wage they don't deserve to exist
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  12881.  @williampennjr.4448  If a business can only survive by paying poverty wages then either adjust its business model or go out of business. Just like if a business discriminates based on gender then either adjust its business model or go out of business model. Who would pay income tax? Maybe if minimum wage workers actually made a living wage they could...I don't know...make more income....and pay more in taxes. There are over 27 million low wage workers... That isn't "a few."
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  12882.  @williampennjr.4448  Employers do all of those things already with what the minimum wage is at. Where I work, I'm eligible for benefits if I work full-time, so my employer keeps all workers part-time to not offer benefits. And employers except open availability at the same time. But the worker is asking for too much?
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  12883.  @williampennjr.4448  Discrimination and what the minimum wage is set at are both choices, the only difference between the two is we deem discrimination unacceptable but not a poverty wage minimum wage. I don't understand why you are defending poverty. If our economy is structured around 44% of the population being mired in poverty, that is just as messed up as society being structured around discrimination based on gender.
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  12884.  @williampennjr.4448  Hire me full time? For what? I'm already not making a living wage. Working more hours does not change how much money I make per hour. Even if I could work 80 hours a week I'd still be struggling to get by. Yes, it is the government's job because employees do not have enough bargaining power to negotiate for wages all on their own. And employers have already proven they are fine paying people below living wages, so employers can't be trusted to do it on their own. Employers pay employees enough to keep their business but also not enough to live. That is the entire problem. Are you not bothered by the fact that full-time workers at Walmart use billions of dollars in low income assistance like food stamps? They already work but still can't survive anyway. What's the purpose of working a job if you don't make enough to make ends meet? The government provides financial assistance to people who don't make enough money(meaning market failure) to live but at the same time the government doesn't support a living wage. That's circular logic. Imagine saying women have too little freedom but you also repeal the 19th amendment.
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  12885. Yes. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  12886. Nothing.
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  12887. Yep
    1
  12888. Yep.
    1
  12889. They hate welfare because it empowers poor people.
    1
  12890.  @ploitzz892  you're describing me..
    1
  12891. Republicans believe poor people don't work hard enough to earn government assistance.
    1
  12892. Unemployment is an acceptable risk. This is a separate bill than the overall minimum wage
    1
  12893. Libertarians want corporations to have cheap labor, workers who can't afford to argue and will work for dirt low pay. So anything allowing for collective bargaining is wrong.
    1
  12894. ​ @iammaxhailme yep
    1
  12895. I'm an incel because i can't get laid. I get radio silence on dating apps. I'm too socially inept to go to social events to meet women. I also have no job, no car, no hobbies, and no independence.
    1
  12896. I believe I'm beautiful..... To someone
    1
  12897. Herbert gans
    1
  12898. Republicans don't want to cover that
    1
  12899. because they believe that poor people receiving government help is a handout. To motivate poor people to work harder, you pay them less. To motivate the rich, you pay them more.
    1
  12900. You cannot regulate when or how poor people have kids.
    1
  12901. Wtf
    1
  12902. Yep
    1
  12903. Holy crap
    1
  12904. Yep.
    1
  12905. ​ @TheOG-GG yea
    1
  12906. That's fine
    1
  12907. Lol you can't force women to not have kids
    1
  12908. @BadGirl4Life me personally? No. But the government can and does precisely because there aren't infinite high paying jobs available. The cost for poor people having kids has to be paid by someone. The question is whether that will be employers or the government/taxpayers.
    1
  12909. ​ @waveygravey9347 Ok how do you enforce this?
    1
  12910. Poor people are still hated.
    1
  12911. Key and Peele
    1
  12912. Used to be women.
    1
  12913. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
    1
  12914. I don't think that's what why college tuition is $10k/year mate.
    1
  12915. In the long run, all programs that involve significant redistribution from rich to poor have to be financed nationally. No state can afford to be substantially more generous that its neighbors, lest it become a magnet for the poor while driving away the affluent.
    1
  12916. Thank you
    1
  12917.  @henryford2950  politicians give blank checks to the rich but the poor receive pennies with strings attached.
    1
  12918.  @henryford2950  the poor don't even have better Healthcare than then....
    1
  12919.  @henryford2950  It sucks mate.
    1
  12920.  @henryford2950  do you think poverty can end?
    1
  12921. Amazing!
    1
  12922. Conservatives believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  12923. Ok
    1
  12924.  @HighTech636  quantitative easing is the fed printing money and giving it to rich people.
    1
  12925. Why is there a worker shortage?
    1
  12926. They don't want to.
    1
  12927. Yep
    1
  12928. except politicans are pocketed to deprive people of healthcare.
    1
  12929. ​ @raveun2thejoy  you're great at arguing.
    1
  12930. Half the population in USA lives in poverty. What's your point? ​ @barbiquearea 
    1
  12931. ​ @barbiquearea poverty is in USA as well
    1
  12932. ​ @KevinSmith-qi5yn  wow.
    1
  12933. Wow
    1
  12934. Correct. Worker solidarity, not continued poverty, is seen as intolerable.
    1
  12935. Now this country has too many minimum wage jobs.
    1
  12936.  @greyeaglem  I hate him.
    1
  12937. Exactly.
    1
  12938. Correct. He wants an underclass.
    1
  12939. Exactly.
    1
  12940. They're called different names. In real life the safest type is called a lorenztian wormhole.
    1
  12941. Wow
    1
  12942. What politicians don't want to say is they believe workers "should" be paid based on "skill" not "productivity."
    1
  12943. Also profit sharing has increased for owners(it's around 75% now) as opposed to the 1970s(around 50%).
    1
  12944. Not the point.
    1
  12945. I'll change
    1
  12946. Ok
    1
  12947. I know this because I deal with the same thing as a cashier at a supermarket.
    1
  12948. I make $10.50/hr. I got a $0.50 raise.
    1
  12949. if only corporate media wasn't corrupt.
    1
  12950.  @bearmotorcycle7305  then you want poverty
    1
  12951.  @bearmotorcycle7305  poor people want a living wage. That's it. That's all they are asking for. They aren't saying let's have a maximum wage. They aren't saying let's pay others a certain amount. They're saying their wages are too low to survive on without welfare(which is a fact) Yet they are facing fierce opposition from the right. Okay, so what they want doesn't break the law, doesn't violate constitutional rights or anything. So then, why aren't they simply paid more and that's it? Because others believe they don't deserve or shouldn't be paid more.
    1
  12952. And yet, despite this, they still feel they have the right to tell the poor to be happy with their crumbs
    1
  12953. I think it's messed up that these people on Wall Street can make one billion dollars a year, but still want more money.
    1
  12954. I think it's messed up hollywood actors couldn't even make millions for one episode.
    1
  12955. No one college student can control or cover the cost of tuition, otherwise, I wouldn't be attending community College that I can't afford to finish. And not everyone can get scholarships.
    1
  12956. It's about values, politicians don't want to end poverty.
    1
  12957. How about have a panel for poor people like myself? I make $10.50/hr and use welfare.
    1
  12958. Yep
    1
  12959. Yep
    1
  12960. ​ @DF_UniatePapist epic
    1
  12961. Gotta keep workers in line!
    1
  12962. @Diego Haro  yes. But there are always people instantly replacing them endlessly. Thus, quitting solves nothing. A doctor quitting is much more financially devastating than a cashier quitting. Individually, unskilled workers wield no power. The only way corporations would care about losing minimum wage workers anywhere close to losing doctors is bankruptcy - For example, taxing corporations 3x-6x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits.
    1
  12963.  @diegoharo7943  2. Turnover rates mean nothing since the jobs can be easily replaced. Unless you fined walmart or forced job vacancies for decades on end every time a worker quit, a cashier quitting means nothing compared to a doctor quitting. 3. Power=money.
    1
  12964. @Diego Haro  not part-time or entry-level jobs. Most minimum wage workers work part-time, so they are ineligible for benefits. Imagine working not only for $10.00/hr but working less than 30 hrs/week on top of that(40 hrs gives you benefits). And if you get benefits, they're likely bad. Either the 401k(which is inferior to a pension) is at 0% match, or the Healthcare is too limited on coverage or too expensive, especially for minimum wage workers.
    1
  12965.  @dekai7992  do you agree with me?
    1
  12966. @Diego Haro  I'm not going to keep having this conversation. A doctor is harder to replace than a cashier. Unskilled workers do not and cannot wield comparable power that doctors do individually, only collectively. If workers had such power, NOONE would accept jobs that require welfare or debt to make up the difference to live.
    1
  12967. @howie699  it's all correlated and causated. You are correct. It is a moral issue, though: do corporations find poverty unacceptable? Do politicians? The answer is no. Do politicians find consumer debt unacceptable? Like rape? The answer is no. Otherwise, politicians wouldn't be having this debate about defaulting.
    1
  12968. @howie699  the bootstraps thinking stems from the cornerstone of conservative ideology: just-world fallacy. The idea is that if you just work hard enough, everything will be fine. The real reason for this belief is fear: to admit society can be blamed is to admit individual effort can only get you so far. It's to admit we don't control our own lives. In essence, it means effort doesn't matter. You can't control your own life. Batman Begins- " people always fear what they can't control."
    1
  12969. Right.
    1
  12970. Prostitutes don't offer genuine affection.
    1
  12971. Half a million per year
    1
  12972. It is when Republicans consider $400k "middle class."
    1
  12973. Because they make most of the money through poverty. The poor have no money to give.
    1
  12974. @brokenstacker8297  ok
    1
  12975.  @brokenstacker8297  you can't force poor women to not have sex or kids.
    1
  12976.  @brokenstacker8297  I'm poor and on welfare while in school.
    1
  12977. @cutecats532  exactly
    1
  12978. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
    1
  12979. I'm entitled?
    1
  12980. Yep
    1
  12981.  @ledzeppelin725  she has said nothing about that nor biden
    1
  12982.  @arjaygee  Biden was vice president for 8 years, and now as president he hasn't pushed for a living wage. Harris has said...what about the poor? Nothing. Politicians from both parties at every level of government care only about the middle and upper classes.
    1
  12983. I'm poor and can't afford that
    1
  12984. You give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing. That is how politicians think.
    1
  12985. The top 1% pay about 41% of federal income taxes and the top 10% pay over 80% of federal income taxes. If it was left up to the bottom 50% of wage earners there would be no tax base left.
    1
  12986. Because Republicans hate poor people having children. And foster care too
    1
  12987. And unwed motherhood
    1
  12988. It's to force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs.
    1
  12989. Able bodied is a moral term used to imply poor people don't deserve government assistance
    1
  12990.  @zargal-n5n  if Kamala Harris interviewed the ignored parts of society she'd be more popular - poor, unskilled, homeless, immigrants.
    1
  12991.  @fortheloveofnoise  okay
    1
  12992.  @fortheloveofnoise  I'll find a better job, then.
    1
  12993.  @fortheloveofnoise  15 is still a poverty wage.
    1
  12994.  @julesdalli9716  yep.
    1
  12995.  @kirklanyoshinaga8953  holy crap. That's messed up.
    1
  12996. ​ @kirklanyoshinaga8953 exactly.
    1
  12997. These politicians also tell the working poor like myself to be happy making less than $15/hr
    1
  12998.  @brothersandsistersofvalhalla  I know it would take drastic change but that is admitting to a lack of willingness not capability. I thought you could simply raise wages to be 60% the cost of a home. So if median home price is 300k the median income must be 60% of that(180k).
    1
  12999.  @brothersandsistersofvalhalla  or maybe make homes no more than 3x median income.
    1
  13000.  @brothersandsistersofvalhalla  oh okay I understand. Separate point but it seems like the housing market is inherently messed up. If everyone had a home then demand would plummet to near zero, crashing real estate market. Businesses have no interest in providing a good enough supply of homes because no one except millionaires and billionaires can afford to purchase/construct homes in cash. The government has no interest in providing affordable housing because that would devalue investments.
    1
  13001. Right.
    1
  13002. It's called Calvinism.
    1
  13003. Ok
    1
  13004. Rich people
    1
  13005. Yep.
    1
  13006. Space bending is gravity, that is the basis of general relativity
    1
  13007.  @jscythe74  why don't all workers quit?
    1
  13008.  @jscythe74  right, but the issue is ideological, not economic. Corporations and politicians don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
    1
  13009. @Armeddragon12  exactly. A cashier quitting due to low pay will not increase the pay of cashiers across the country or even at Walmart alone. A doctor quitting would matter to his/her employer.
    1
  13010. Dumb question...
    1
  13011.  @draalttom844  that's dumb that they said that.
    1
  13012.  @klsliter7462  because the problem is the existence of a marriage penalty in the first place. We don't have caps on what billionaires or doctors can earn, we shouldn't have caps on what the poor and disabled can earn either.
    1
  13013.  @klsliter7462  my replies are gone
    1
  13014. Exactly. DING.
    1
  13015.  @alexrosales7907  pretty much.
    1
  13016. ​ @lolazal1 exactly.
    1
  13017. To perpetuate poverty.
    1
  13018. Billionaires know this, but you and Ana neglect to see the truth of our politics. Our political values are based on the risks we refuse to take. The consequences we refuse to tolerate Our political and corporate leaders deem rising worker power, not continued poverty, as unacceptable. Because you can have poverty and you can have worker solidarity, but you can not have both. Corporations choose the former.
    1
  13019. The billionaires would no longer have workers they could exploit through crappy wages, and their goods and services would become costlier and rarer.
    1
  13020. Holy crap
    1
  13021. You're shaming poor people instead of greedy corporations.
    1
  13022. Voting is a right.....
    1
  13023. @default3740 voting isn't a right.
    1
  13024. Because they were calvinists
    1
  13025. because poor people can do something to magically eliminate poverty? @dustinsindledecker154 
    1
  13026. Conservatives believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors demanded $15/hr, the same conservatives would pass an $80/hr minimum wage then.
    1
  13027. Because pics profit off of poverty It's not among their priorities to end poverty.
    1
  13028. It's a cashier job. You can be replaced by anyone in an instant, you have no negotiating power. You act like these people are valued as much as doctors.
    1
  13029. That's scary.
    1
  13030. It's corporate greed, not poor people wanting better lives for themselves.
    1
  13031. She'd have to make over $40/hr to support 3 kids.
    1
  13032. That's not how conservatives think. Conservatives believe in just-world fallacy. They think the worth of a person and of their job is based on how much effort they put in. In a conservative's eyes, the only objective measure of the effort is skill: the amount of education or responsibility the person has. If a job requires a lot of skill the person deserves a lot of money. Conversely, if the job requires no skill, the person deserves poverty.
    1
  13033. You have to be able to afford a hooker number one. And you can't buy intimacy number two.
    1
  13034. Those countries have strong unions
    1
  13035. I'm almost 29 and a virgin- although I'm male. I'm not waiting for anything, I've been wanting to get laid for a really long time.
    1
  13036. Wow
    1
  13037. I'm too poor to do that. I make $10.50/hr in USA
    1
  13038.  @grumpyoldman6503  it's called just world fallacy.
    1
  13039. Evil
    1
  13040. Because many people think poverty is due to laziness
    1
  13041. That made me cry.
    1
  13042. Yep
    1
  13043. Correct.
    1
  13044. You admit that well paying jobs are scarce.
    1
  13045. Because it's just-world fallacy. Many Americans believe that anyone anywhere can become anything they want through effort alone. Either luck doesn't exist, or it is not a contributing factor. If you are born poor, it is not your fault, but if you die poor, it is. helping the poor become middle class or rich is rewarding failure in many people's eyes, and that is anathema to them.
    1
  13046. I'm confused by what I read here.
    1
  13047. youtube algorithims. New videos on Secular Talk's channel don't get recommended to new users frequently anymore, most of Kyle's subscribers are existing fans from years ago.
    1
  13048. Even if a video hit 1 million views in 24 hours the channel will quickly die off if youtube decides to stop advertising the channel. It can even pull popular videos off the trending page.
    1
  13049.  @Lianhua253  but you have universal healthcare and free college.
    1
  13050.  @Lianhua253  wow.
    1
  13051. No.
    1
  13052. Yep​ @nettewilson5926 
    1
  13053. It's called being a sociopath.
    1
  13054. Yep. Bill doesn't need food stamps or Medicaid or Pell grants like myself.
    1
  13055. ​ @philliphessel6788  holy crap.
    1
  13056. Wow
    1
  13057. It helps the poor, that's why politicians oppose it.
    1
  13058. Because republicans don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
    1
  13059. Too bad
    1
  13060. It's all by design
    1
  13061. Just-world fallacy.
    1
  13062. ​ @racool911 survivorship bias
    1
  13063. F Ed up
    1
  13064. Are the executives exempt from jail time?
    1
  13065.  @jennifertate4397  okay, good sit! Either put them or jail or in poverty!
    1
  13066. ​ @dinomunroe3675 yep. Click bait title
    1
  13067. Yep
    1
  13068. I'm a cashier at a grocery store. I make $10/hr. By law my grocery store has to accept food stamps but there are no laws mandating the employees themselves don't qualify for food stamps. It turns out food stamps make up 73% of sales.... Grocery stores profit off of poverty.
    1
  13069.  @terised  business owners cause endless suffering.
    1
  13070. Wow
    1
  13071. That's crazy.
    1
  13072. I believed this silicon valley bank or something got a $89 billion bailout, but at the same time I lost my food stamps and Medicaid became more restricted.
    1
  13073. They're too rich to care about poverty.
    1
  13074. That's on corporations
    1
  13075. Correct.
    1
  13076. That isn't happening now.
    1
  13077. That's crazy
    1
  13078. Yep
    1
  13079. Minimum wage workers already work part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits
    1
  13080. Because what corporations want is cheap labor. Corporations support immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and will work very hard for very low rates of pay
    1
  13081. Wow.
    1
  13082. I'll read that book.
    1
  13083. There are not enough high paying jobs for all poor mothers
    1
  13084. Correct. You have to be an entrepreneur of some sort...investment into assets.
    1
  13085. There's a show called " rich house poor house."
    1
  13086. It was $78 an hour and it was the sales, not profits.
    1
  13087.  @exemida  labor is usually 15-20% of costs. It could be changed to 40% or even 60 if the demand was high enough afterwards. So yes. Pizza workers could make $78 an hour....
    1
  13088.  @exemida  you're right. But i was asking would you be upset if pizza workers made that much?
    1
  13089.  @exemida  I agree with you. Unfortunately, our government does not.
    1
  13090. I'm fine with forgiving auto loans.
    1
  13091.  @bugsy9007  sounds good to me.
    1
  13092.  @bugsy9007  you are asking about my morals. I am fine with auto loan forgiveness.
    1
  13093.  @bugsy9007  yes.
    1
  13094.  @bugsy9007  cars. Homes. Credit cards. Medical. Student loans
    1
  13095.  @bugsy9007  28
    1
  13096. Wow
    1
  13097. I wish debates about minimum wage happened with POOR PEOPLE.
    1
  13098. Correct.
    1
  13099. Lol invest making 7.25/hr. What next? Do you think I can buy a house making that?
    1
  13100. They're poor because they don't make enough.
    1
  13101. Wow.
    1
  13102. Okay
    1
  13103. ​ @aureliaglenn2220 holy crap.
    1
  13104. I'm 28. I can't be 29 and still a virgin.
    1
  13105.  @Celebriel82  which is why so much is spent on welfare
    1
  13106. I'm happy he got laid as a 28 year old virgin incel.
    1
  13107. Congress axed both free college and free community college.
    1
  13108.  @harrisd1983  well I'm stuck trying to pay a $18,000 trade school tuition bill making minimum wage and not making a dent in it at all. And the university I go to costs more than that per year(scholarship covers the university not trade school).
    1
  13109. Corporations are evil.
    1
  13110. The government controlling your life is bad....unless you're "evil." I.e. poor, black, female, drug user, or mentally ill. - Fox News Mantra
    1
  13111. Idk
    1
  13112. That's messed up.
    1
  13113. Correct.
    1
  13114. You're joking? $45?
    1
  13115. ​ @TheNinthGeneration1 exactly
    1
  13116. If you could create matter and antimatter in unequal quantities wouldn't that violate conservation of electric charge? Since you could convert a gamma ray photon into two positrons or two electrons. Thus violating baryon number isn't enough.
    1
  13117. That's exactly right- rich people want poverty. Poverty ensures society's dirty work gets done. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    1
  13118. That's an asinine belief.
    1
  13119. His dad did exactly that but Elliot Rejected her. Elliot said in his manifesto it wouldn't have helped him.
    1
  13120. Poor people have no power
    1
  13121. ​ @user-nm3gg7rq2d exactly
    1
  13122. It's a sick mindset
    1
  13123. Exactly.
    1
  13124.  @pinchebruha405  yep.
    1
  13125. If you're a CEO or doctor you deserve a house according to these rich people. But these menial jobs are undeserving.
    1
  13126.  @nocucksinkekistan7321  is $400k/yr too much money?
    1
  13127.  @nocucksinkekistan7321  are you serious??
    1
  13128. Why? That's stupid.
    1
  13129. Because politicians want poor people to accept slave wages.
    1
  13130. Exactly.
    1
  13131. Don't listen to this guy he's a conservative troll.
    1
  13132. You're acting like poor people such as myself haven't tried. I live in North Carolina. When I turned 26, I lost Medicaid because NC refused Medicaid expansion. I had marketplace insurance through blue Cross Blue shield, it costed only $20 a month because I had premium tax credits. NC expanded Medicaid. I lost my tax credits, forcing my premium to reach $436 a month, still not including dental or vision. So I was forced onto shitty Medicaid, where I lost all of my old doctors, caught hell trying to find new ones, and received fewer appointments.
    1
  13133. At the grocery store I work at they offer a mere $2500 a year for college.... That's not even enough to pursue trade school.
    1
  13134. Corporations want illegal immigrants for cheap labor
    1
  13135. ​ @dennismsanquini83 that's brutal.
    1
  13136. The real reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If truly robust welfare programs were in place, nobody would work shitty minimum wage jobs.
    1
  13137. It's about priorities.
    1
  13138. Yep.
    1
  13139. Because people are paid based on skill not productivity.
    1
  13140. Yep
    1
  13141.  @film79  I'm a 28 year old HHKV. I feel like a loser.
    1
  13142. Yes.
    1
  13143. Fake😊
    1
  13144. Yep.
    1
  13145. Correct.
    1
  13146. Exactly.
    1
  13147. You are correct. Working 90 hours at 7.25/hr still leaves you poor in NYC.
    1
  13148. Yep.
    1
  13149. That's disgusting
    1
  13150. I don't understand your point?
    1
  13151. @s0sDarkAngels0s  I see. That is messed up.
    1
  13152. Yes. Trump doesn't want poor people
    1
  13153. Exactly
    1
  13154. If you did that Places like mcdonald's and chick fil a would be paying their cashier six figures.
    1
  13155. An ohio pizza shop owner did that for one day: pizza workers made $78/hr.
    1
  13156. ​ @itt2055  that too.
    1
  13157. Lol​ @peaceandllov 
    1
  13158. They hate poor families.
    1
  13159.  @BrianButterworth-s4z  yes. Let's hope.
    1
  13160.  @BrianButterworth-s4z  my replies are deleted
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  13161.  @donsolos  I'm aware. I'm saying poor people can't invest in the stock market. Stocks going up doesn't reduce poverty.
    1
  13162.  @donsolos  living wage, better welfare, free higher education, these things help the poor.
    1
  13163. He stupidly believes unskilled workers make what they deserve.
    1
  13164. Biden.
    1
  13165. Thank you​ @buzoff4642 
    1
  13166. I never thought about it like that.
    1
  13167. @glidercoach  work ethic isn't a college degree or level of responsibility. Don't pretend like being a cashier for a long time means you'll make as much as a doctor.
    1
  13168. @glidercoach  the only skills that increase your level of pay are level of education or level of responsibility. Neither of which occurs at any low wage job. There are other jobs that require no training that pay as much as doctors that don't receive this level of disdain
    1
  13169. poverty is not acceptable because someone works an arbitarily named "entry-level job."
    1
  13170. Except many people don't believe poor people deserve government assistance
    1
  13171. A HEATED debate would involve yelling
    1
  13172. ​@hewowctorvega621
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  13173. Conservatives worship capitalism like they worship God.
    1
  13174. ​ @xavierjones5452 be quiet.
    1
  13175.  @xavierjones5452  I made $10.50/hr as a cashier.
    1
  13176. Kamala Harris not only needs to run for POTUS, but win. Otherwise her political career will stall.
    1
  13177. I agree.
    1
  13178.  @She_namedme_DJ  it makes you more sociopathic but other than that you're right.
    1
  13179.  @chachaguillotine187  that's messed up.
    1
  13180. Execs treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  13181. @Ronald Reagan  Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you skills. Maybe if there wasn't sky-high inflation, wages wouldn't have to be increased so much.
    1
  13182. It's called supporting poverty.
    1
  13183. ​ @possiblycurryddork Jesus christ.
    1
  13184. Wow
    1
  13185. Corporations want illegal immigrants for cheap labor...YEP
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  13186. Then you are unwilling to pay their costs associated with giving workers more bargaining power.
    1
  13187. These pundits are too rich and apathetic to care about the working poor.
    1
  13188. Wow.
    1
  13189. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
    1
  13190.  @vannavee3  exactly.
    1
  13191. Haha.
    1
  13192. Conservatives believe billionaires earned their wealth.
    1
  13193. ​ @Mouse_Metal yep
    1
  13194. Republicans won't raise poverty threshold because it'll reduce federal welfare going to states.
    1
  13195. That's low
    1
  13196. Exactly.
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  13197. ​@USS_Sentinel the person would have to be a billionaire and self funded. And been born poor first. And care about the poor. Noone in America fits those 3 criteria.
    1
  13198. I believe you but news stories don't focus on the poor or middle class.
    1
  13199.  @bradchristy8429  okay. Then why oppose student loan forgiveness?
    1
  13200. Yes it does.
    1
  13201. ​ @Damzinoo96Official escorts don't like you.
    1
  13202. Yep.
    1
  13203.  @C..404  no they don't. Without those "unskilled" workers the company makes nothing.
    1
  13204.  @C..404  wouldn't work
    1
  13205.  @C..404  that....does not change what I said. Without low wage workers, CEOs make nothing
    1
  13206.  @C..404  CEOs have far more bargaining power than cashiers or janitors.
    1
  13207.  @C..404  okay buddy.
    1
  13208. Exactly
    1
  13209. They'll still win since poor people don't run for Congress.
    1
  13210. Wow
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  13211. Still messed up though
    1
  13212. No
    1
  13213. It's called the zenith law of space combat​ @GonzoTehGreat 
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  13214. ​ @GonzoTehGreat EPIC
    1
  13215. ​ @nifralo2752 wow.
    1
  13216. Entry level jobs? LOL. Many of these minimum wage jobs are no such thing.
    1
  13217. Wouldn't solve anything. That's not real intimacy.
    1
  13218. Correct
    1
  13219. That's messed up.
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  13220.  @peterirvin7121  the godfather
    1
  13221. Rofl
    1
  13222. I'm 29
    1
  13223. $78/hr
    1
  13224. Yep.
    1
  13225. Yes​ @Luci-pz8xx 
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  13226. 43% of people are in poverty I understand
    1
  13227. ​ @jasonruggles4622 yep
    1
  13228. Because an Incel's problem isn't lack of sex it's entitlement to women.
    1
  13229.  @Posterharpua  they are correlated but not causated. Hiring a hooker means the only way an incel can get laid is by paying for it. It means he can't convince a woman to be with him without money or coercion being involved and that's worse than not having sex at all.
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  13230. Meritocracy is a myth because there is no objective measure of merit. Thus, there is no way to determine if your society is meritocratic or not.
    1
  13231. Beautiful
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  13232. Worker solidarity is seen as intolerable. Not poverty.
    1
  13233. I guess poverty will take a smoke break until then.
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  13234.  @sumanadasawijayapala5372  how can anyone be that stupid?
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  13235. Correct. Yet they make billions.
    1
  13236. The poor do work....
    1
  13237. Okay
    1
  13238. They say the jobs are worthless but want them to exist.
    1
  13239. If profit sharing existed they'd make that much
    1
  13240. And people who flip burgers are not kids, not all of them.
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  13241. Yes burger flippers deserve $44/hr.
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  13242.  @jillschneider2953  the workers produce all of the goods/services that make the money for their corporate leaders. And you can't buy a $5 million restaurant making $8.50 an hour, no matter how much work.
    1
  13243.  @jillschneider2953  So you admit it's a two-way street, not one way. Employers and employees help each other.
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  13244.  @jillschneider2953  With over half of people poor/low-income? Sounds like YOU aren't living in reality
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  13245.  @jillschneider2953  We'll just have to disagree then.
    1
  13246. Yes.
    1
  13247. Exactly.
    1
  13248. Yep
    1
  13249. I don't know how.
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  13250. Good luck leaving with no money. Most people who work minimum wage jobs are not teenagers. And being a teenager doesn't justify poverty....
    1
  13251.  @everyone2975  that's messed up.
    1
  13252. Because conservatives believe in just-world fallacy. They believe anyone can become anything they want through effort alone. Either luck does not exist or it is not a contributing factor. Consequently, if you are born poor it isn't your fault but if you die poor it is. Helping the poor become middle class or rich is rewarding failure in conservative people's eyes and that is anathema to them.
    1
  13253. Give the money directly to the poor.
    1
  13254. Exactly
    1
  13255. That's wrong
    1
  13256. @StevenWolfe-lx8js  the fact it is literally impossible to Pay for college working minimum wage. Plus, minimum wage employers don't pay the full tuition for college either. They pay maybe $5k/yr when tuition averages $20k-$30k
    1
  13257. @StevenWolfe-lx8js  I'm saying if you're poor/working minimum wage. You cannot pay for college out of pocket like these conservatives claim.
    1
  13258. My university president makes $975,000/year.
    1
  13259. Only rich people deserve government help
    1
  13260. Politicians haven't forgotten them. They believe disabled people are worthless as well.
    1
  13261. The real reason conservatives hate a living wage is because they believe poor people don't deserve the money
    1
  13262. Wow
    1
  13263. The problem with Republicans is they are using smoke and mirrors. They have a fundamental belief that some jobs have value and others do not.
    1
  13264.  @christophermorse8158  Correct.
    1
  13265. Left don't have envy. They acknowledge that meritocracy is a shame
    1
  13266. You're sick morally.
    1
  13267. You won't unify the country though.
    1
  13268. Why aren't we there?
    1
  13269.  @harryballsak1123  messed up. The $793 billion in PPP loans could've ended poverty and homelessness together.... I could afford a car and college with not even 1% of what these rich people make. I sound envious but in reality I just think it's messed up the rich are ok with welfare for themselves but not others.
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  13270. Yep
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  13271. Your premise is flawed because not everyone can obtain senior level jobs. It'd be like expecting all car owners to own a sports car to be considered a driver. Everyone could not, tomorrow, own a sports car.
    1
  13272.  @MidnightBlueMetallic  so then you want entry level workers...to just... remain in poverty?(From the wage increases you say would happen)
    1
  13273.  @MidnightBlueMetallic  my point is expecting all entry level workers to "work their way up" to something better, in order to obtain higher pay, is flawed by the fact that not everyone can obtain higher level positions. Not all high school teachers can be principal. Not all college professors can be chancellor or even dean. Not all city cops can be police chief. Someone has to be in the lower level positions. So what people are saying is they want entry level workers in poverty.
    1
  13274.  @MidnightBlueMetallic  okay. But let's say everyone wants the pay that comes with senior level work. Not everyone can obtain it. Someone working as a cashier at Walmart can possibly be a store manager one day. But not all cashiers. Not all workers. What do they do?
    1
  13275.  @MidnightBlueMetallic  okay but many people argue what you're saying: cashiers shouldn't what make the manager makes. I agree with that. What I'm saying is that everyone can't be a manager or supervisor or CEO, trying harder isn't going to cut it. So if every cashier demanded to be manager, was willing to work 80 hours a week, they all wouldn't get promoted. So if people don't want the jobs of cashiers to go away(if everyone got promoted like many conservatives claim), but also don't want the jobs to pay more, what are they saying? For people to live in poverty? To suck it up?
    1
  13276.  @MidnightBlueMetallic  if you replied I don't see it. YouTube is deleting my own comments
    1
  13277. Correct.
    1
  13278.  @lizicadumitru9683  you're right. Truthfully I'm a loser, that is why I'm a virgin. I have no: college education, career, training certification, passive income, driver's license, car, place of my own, interesting hobbies, AND no sense of adventure/attend city events, AND I don't exercise.
    1
  13279.  @lizicadumitru9683  okay. I must try to do better. I can't expect women to accept me or support me financially.
    1
  13280.  @lizicadumitru9683  if I can be hurt emotionally then it means the woman I'm dating knows my true self. I've never trusted anyone in person that much besides my family. It's scary.
    1
  13281.  @lizicadumitru9683  I just have to get out more and be more direct.
    1
  13282.  @lizicadumitru9683  thank you.
    1
  13283. ​ @trappedinamerica7740 exactly.
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  13284. ​ @trappedinamerica7740 exactly.
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  13285. Yep.
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  13286. Republicans think minimum wage workers are losers
    1
  13287. Which is the true goal
    1
  13288. Because main stream media plays identity politics. It's the only way corporations can remain that popular.
    1
  13289.  @sylviam6535  now I'm scared of being a journalist
    1
  13290.  @jonpark6650  do you like my rant?
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  13291. Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Everyone cannot obtain senior level positions. And you're saying it's morally wrong for poor people to make that much money
    1
  13292. Rich people don't believe this but they convince the poor and middle class to believe this nonsense of merit. If anyone anywhere can succeed through effort alone, then the world is fair! If merit was a shame, then individual effort doesn't matter. That rich people got their wealth through luck. Or worse, cheating.
    1
  13293. I make $10.50/hr I can't afford a hooker
    1
  13294.  @krrowthemyuii  Republicans believe disabled people are worthless
    1
  13295. Exactly ​ @devenrivera5842 
    1
  13296.  @geegeelast7597  exactly.
    1
  13297.  @thefunfam1433  exactly
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  13298. Reading that made me cry because you're right.
    1
  13299.  @kingwillie206  not at all.
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  13300.  @JarJarBinkz68  okay I'll get to work
    1
  13301.  @JarJarBinkz68  so my goals: 1- health(sleep. Diet.) 2- fitness(upper body) 3- school(good grades. Then win scholarships) Since money should be my top priority I should be applying to as many scholarships and grants as possible
    1
  13302.  @kingwillie206  I am. I have been diagnosed. I've been told I must socialize as much as possible and not keep staying in the house. So I'll make it a goal to go out twice a week.
    1
  13303.  @kingwillie206  for months my notifications have been messed up. I have to go back to comments to see them. I didn't ignore you.
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  13304.  @kingwillie206  I'll use hiki. Right now I'm on focusing on getting a car title, then car. Then better diet, going to gym, then doing even better in school. Then income/job.
    1
  13305. Exactly.
    1
  13306. Exactly.
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  13307. It's called the fallacy of relative privation.
    1
  13308. Poor people vote against their own best interests because they've been brainwashed into believing they're poor due to their own misfortune.
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  13309. Correct.
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  13310. 50 sounds good
    1
  13311. Trade schools are expensive too.
    1
  13312. You go into debt regardless of the major.
    1
  13313. ​ @LoudmouthReviews exactly
    1
  13314. The poverty rate is kept artificially low. The reverend is referring to the supplemental poverty measure, used by the poor people campaign. The SPM estimates the poverty rate at 43%
    1
  13315. I used tinder for 5 years and never got laid.
    1
  13316. Medicaid is restricted because poor people don't work for slave wages with government money.
    1
  13317. Why?
    1
  13318. Okay
    1
  13319. Wow
    1
  13320. In Arkansas, all of the working poor got just a big enough of a raise to no longer qualify for any government assistance, but still not enough to make up the difference
    1
  13321.  @ultramaga813  yep
    1
  13322. That's messed up...
    1
  13323. That's messed up
    1
  13324.  @thecatsbackyard4833  reagan dismantled the very policies that helped create a strong middle class. And every president afterwards helped widen the income gap. I bet no politician alive who criticizes walmart workers or the poor wouldn't dare be poor themselves even temporarily.
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  13325.  @thecatsbackyard4833  you're basically with me, i think profit sharing would redistribute income and make a strong middle class. The problem laffer and many other Republicans have is they believe unskilled workers shouldn't make alot of money...period. They want to preserve the economic ladder where cashiers make nothing. Doing simple math at 80% chic fil a would be paying its workers around $145,000 a year.
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  13326.  @thecatsbackyard4833  oh okay i was wrong then. Although something tells me she is a democrat.
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  13327.  @thecatsbackyard4833  $140,000 a year is a such huge fucking number. If cashiers actually made that much many Republicans would be so upset.
    1
  13328.  @cosmicgregg  he's a troll.
    1
  13329. I'm a 27 year old Virgin... so I don't think being nice will get you laid.
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  13330. Fallacy of relative privation
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  13331. 3 things are needed to make a Warp Drive 1. Faster than light travel (negative mass) 2. Artificial gravity (cosmic strings) 3. Extreme energy production (with antimatter or black holes)
    1
  13332. ​ @joeybaseball7352 that's messed up
    1
  13333. ​ @joeybaseball7352 yes
    1
  13334. I've used tinder for 4 years and never got laid once.
    1
  13335. 1 month on tinder I paid for tinder gold, giving me unlimited swipes, I swiped over 17,000 times that month. And I got zero matches back.
    1
  13336. I don't vote
    1
  13337. Wow.
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  13338. Wowl
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  13339. The minimum wage hasn't increased in over 10 years and is still at poverty level.
    1
  13340. You can't.
    1
  13341. Exactly.
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  13342. Now it's $9.59 without taxes.
    1
  13343. Yep
    1
  13344. It's more than economics. It's ideology. Politicians do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape. It requires shifting our values.
    1
  13345. Yes
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  13346. Ok
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  13347. Correct.
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  13348. He hates the poor.
    1
  13349. Conservatives only want poor and middle class people to have children, not poor people.
    1
  13350. Employers want to have their cake and eat it too.
    1
  13351. I'm not gay.
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  13352. worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  13353. 0.
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  13354. That first part is what fuels massive poverty now. People demean restaurant and retail workers for making minimum wage but the reality is our manufacturing sector disappeared and we have a service sector now. Instead of working at a factory people work at Walmart, McDonald's or Amazon. Which pay: $11/hr $8.50/hr $18/hr.
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  13355. We have too many low wage jobs(that are created by businesses and sustained by the government through a pathetic minimum wage) and too little funding for welfare like medicaid. Not to mention little worker rights.
    1
  13356. ​ @SpringIsBACK the government kept tuition low until Reagan. Medicaid is made inefficient on purpose in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  13357. I'm on medicaid. It sucks because most doctors don't take it.
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  13358. That's messed up.
    1
  13359. Because it's not about the money, it's about deservedness. Many Americans think poor people don't deserve government help but rich people do.
    1
  13360. ​ @anotherrandomguy8871 exactly
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  13361. 1. Corporations support welfare being restricted in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs 2. Corporations support illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay. 3. Corporations love inflation and no universal healthcare in order to force people to accept wage slavery and debt. 4. Government assistance keeps businesses afloat
    1
  13362. Poor people are ignored.
    1
  13363. Correct.
    1
  13364. It's about priorities. It's about what we value the most.
    1
  13365. Politicians don't find unaffordable healthcare unacceptable like they do rape
    1
  13366.  @Helaw0lf  lmfao they'd cry.
    1
  13367.  @nickthompson1812  our economy is structured now to where very few high paying jobs exist that require only a high school diploma or GED. Back in the 70s "unskilled" workers made decent pay with unions and manufacturing jobs. Now their only choice is either a low paying retail job or a low paying restaurant job..... Politicians claim minimum wage is enough to pay for college and that the poor/uneducated have it easy. I want to see politicians practice what they preach.
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  13368. @J Watson lol i know.
    1
  13369. Except community colleges also cost money, even with financial aid. If you are only making minimum wage it is very difficult to make a living for yourself plus go to school. You are also wasting more time because all of the credits you earn at community colleges don't transfer.
    1
  13370. That's messed up.
    1
  13371. That right there is the problem - everyone works. It's just that you aren't paid based on how hard you work. I worked very hard as a cashier but only made $10.50/hour.
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  13372. They don't care about the raw numbers.
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  13373. Won't work when most people have no money or skills. Minimum wage workers need bargaining power.
    1
  13374.  @timeones  another minimum wage job yes. So the problem persists. And with enough bargaining power you wouldn't have to find another job anyway.
    1
  13375.  @timeones  lmfao I guessed you missed the part where 50% of open jobs are near minimum wage jobs, careers in the 70s were union manufacturing jobs that required a high school diploma alone and have been replaced by service sector jobs, and the college education needed to get higher pay hasn't been made free or cheap, locking millions of people out.
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  13376.  @timeones  like anyone with enough money or skills would be a cashier.
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  13377. It's the same reason many people resort to rape over sex- control. The capitalist class wants to control workers. It isn't about cooperation but subjugation.
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  13378. @Gyan Devi  I can tell you what his mindset is: just-world fallacy. Republicans believe that rich people and business owners have succeeded in the system that works, so when they make a mistake, they deserve to get bailed out due to their success. Where as poor people have failed according to the government, so any government help they receive is a handout.
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  13379. Makes USA look like trash....
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  13380. Many colleges cost more than $50k per year. So that isn't enough money.
    1
  13381.  @jdtumey4  USA can print its way out of any crisis.
    1
  13382. because they don't believe unskilled workers deserve a living wage. also because they oppose helping the poor become middle class.
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  13383.  @J.a.v.i  correct. My theory is this: people who support capitalism and meritocracy go hand in hand. Thus the only economic and moral value/importance of a job is skill. Since skill is about effort. If anyone could make anything they wanted then you would be rewarding failure in many people's eyes. It would be like giving someone who failed medical school a medical degree anyway. Thus a neurosurgeon making $900,000 a year is no big deal but a "burger flipper" making $90,000 a year is tantamount to legalizing rape.
    1
  13384. Yes...
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  13385. I'm in NC. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom.
    1
  13386.  @michaelphan3521  I'm glad you've learned something.
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  13387. Yes
    1
  13388. Exactly.
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  13389. Wow.....
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  13390. Yep
    1
  13391. $18 million vs $18,000.
    1
  13392. Jesus Christ
    1
  13393. That's terrible
    1
  13394. The government has to step in and provide healthcare in the first place precisely because corporations don't want to.
    1
  13395. I have Medicaid because I'm a cashier and my two medicines once costed $2100 a month. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier, received no health insurance, no pathway to promotion
    1
  13396. Even cashiers? What if a cashier is supporting a family of four/living wage is $60/hr? You're okay with that?
    1
  13397.  @Simon-tc1mc  yeah. Problem is politicians have no accountability. If she lived like the people in my state... She'd have no college degree, healthcare, subsidized housing, or home. Plus she'd make minimum wage with no benefits because minimum wage jobs are " not real jobs."
    1
  13398. Correct
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  13399. The reason welfare is means tested is the reason why welfare and UBI both are hateful by Republicans: Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  13400. Ok
    1
  13401. Haha.
    1
  13402. And because workers would have too much power.
    1
  13403.  @smileyp4535  right
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  13404. @Smiley P  I have a perfect analogy for you: How many nuclear engineers and doctors would accept a job being a cashier? Zero. Because engineers and doctors have the power to reject dead end jobs. This is the exact level of power that corporations don't want everyone else to have.
    1
  13405. Doesn't change the fact women can get sex more easily than men.
    1
  13406. Yep.
    1
  13407. I'm a virgin at 29.
    1
  13408.  @itzasweater9621  that is messed up as well.
    1
  13409.  @kddavis5492  that's obvious.
    1
  13410. @Ronald Reagan I'm not arguing with you because you've already made up your mind.
    1
  13411. @Ronald Reagan some problems are systemic. You believe the "just world" fallacy. Just because the situation could be worse does not mean it can't be better. Just because you are used to doing something doesn't mean what you're doing is right. Just because there is a bigger problem at hand doesn't make the smaller problem go away nor does it make the smaller problem any less dire.
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  13412. Exactly.
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  13413. I hate USA.
    1
  13414. Calling a job "entry level" doesn't justify poverty. Not everyone can be promoted, so there is no career path for these positions.
    1
  13415.  @winterhotfoot1958  thank you
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  13416. Welfare. The USA spends over $2 trillion a year on poverty mainly resulting from low wage labor.
    1
  13417.  @issacmaw3344  right. USA GDP is around $15 trillion. The total value of all US stocks is $47 trillion. But the top 1% of income earners owns 40% of stocks and the top 10% owns 81% of stocks.
    1
  13418.  @issacmaw3344  well there are several different reasons for why the USA has so much poverty but my main criticism of why the US spends so much on welfare is because it sees the poor as a burden so all of this money is Locked Behind a paywall. We have dozens of City, County, state, 'and' federal agencies aimed at helping the poor( with countless rules, regulations, and restrictions) instead of just giving poor straight cash assistance.
    1
  13419. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
    1
  13420. Yes
    1
  13421.  @toneyingram732  okay.
    1
  13422. Exactly.
    1
  13423. Yes
    1
  13424. If walmart is built upon paying poverty wages then that's a systemic problem on the fault of the business owners.
    1
  13425. There aren't enough white collar jobs for all of America's working poor.
    1
  13426. Are you serious or trolling?
    1
  13427. I'm a cashier and make $10 an hour. Noone except the store manager makes enough to raise a family. I can't "move up" to a position that doesn't exist. Not everyone can be CEO or manager.
    1
  13428.  @miketheyunggod2534  so they do or do not deserve to make more?
    1
  13429.  @miketheyunggod2534  nah. More like $100,000/year.
    1
  13430. What?
    1
  13431.  @caseycooper2381  ok
    1
  13432. Because American economy runs on poverty.
    1
  13433. ​ @MultiAnne36 exactly.
    1
  13434. Yes
    1
  13435. Beverly USA isn't a civilized country.
    1
  13436. I'm twenty nine Kissless virgin and single​ @SteelCowGirl4Ever 
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  13437.  @SteelCowGirl4Ever  I've been told I'm lazy and a loser. So...that isn't good. Nonetheless I'll stop blaming women.
    1
  13438.  @SteelCowGirl4Ever  I'm 29. I lack a car, job, stable income, place of my own, college education, and social life. Context: I flunked out of community college 2014-2015, worked crappy jobs for a while, and decided to take care of my sick mom(2017-2023). She passed away when I was 28. Taking care of her all those years froze my life and took most of my 20s away, I regret it to this day, but I try to remain hopeful. Upon returning to community college, I did an internship, passed a class at a four year university as a visiting student, got my driver's license, went to classes in person, and won some scholarships allowing me to attend school full-time.
    1
  13439.  @SteelCowGirl4Ever  thank you. Life is stressful. But I'm glad I haven't given up. Thank you for giving me hope. I'll come back to this thread to let you know the day I win that scholarship and even get my Degree!
    1
  13440.  @SteelCowGirl4Ever  My interests/hobbies 1. Science fiction 2. Astrophysics 3. Screenwriting 4. Journalism 5. Politics(I know to avoid this) I love sesame chicken, barbecue chicken, cooking
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  13441. Conservatives believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing. George Carlin said it another way "Conservatives tell us you have to give the rich more money otherwise they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, conservatives tell us they've lost all incentive to invest because we've given them too much money."
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  13442. Because conservatives believe that rich / skilled workers are providing Limitless value to society where as poor/unskilled workers are providing none. In other words, giving a CEO more money is good because they'll "create more jobs." On the other hand, giving a McDonald's worker more money does nothing because they are already doing something that's worthless for society. Something that's twice as worthless is still worthless.
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  13443. Wtf
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  13444. ​ @laserflexr6321 I don't know
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  13445. Yep
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  13446.  @Mydogslove2laugh  correct, so now our economy produces nothing but minimum wage jobs.
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  13447. Fallacy of relative privation
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  13448. Exactly.
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  13449. Yep
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  13450. Yes
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  13451. Yep
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  13452. Ye
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  13453. Meritocracy is a myth because everyone successful requires luck in order to succeed.
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  13454. Working hard? I made $10/hr as a cashier. After three years of working I made 50 CENTS above starting pay.
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  13455.  @jordansikes534  what I meant to say was this: there is no objective measure of merit. Thus there is no way to determine if a society is meritocratic or not. Every successful person owes their success to a combination of luck, skill, and persistence. The best to have is luck, be born into fortunate circumstances. Meritocracy implies persistence can make up for the other two, when that isn't always the case and can't be, because equality does not and cannot exist.
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  13456.  @jordansikes534  my freaking replies KEEP GETTING FREAKING DELETED. OR DISAPPEAR. IT'S FRUSTRATING.
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  13457.  @jordansikes534  okay.
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  13458. ​ @harryballsak1123 Republicans want work requirements for welfare programs to coerce poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  13459. Because politicians believe people who are unable to work have no value.
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  13460. That's messed up.
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  13461. Yep.
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  13462.  @nfzeta128  wow.
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  13463.  @nfzeta128  I just get disgusted at these ',journalists."
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  13464. Yep.
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  13465. To put people in poverty
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  13466. Wow.
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  13467. Prostitution doesn't solve my problem.
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  13468. You can't buy intimacy.
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  13469.  @charlie-obrien  exactly LOL.
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  13470. Idk
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  13471. Wow.
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  13472. I consider it just-world fallacy. Many Americans judge the moral value of a person by how hard they work. The idea that if you don't or can't work hard, then you have no value, is disgusting.
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  13473. Doctors making $700k a year is fine, cashiers making $70k a year is wrong.
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  13474. Yep
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  13475.  @b.m.4066  I believe I can purchase a car in the next 30 to 60 days. I just need to suck it up and do it myself. Nobody is bailing me out.
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  13476.  @b.m.4066  What do you want to happen then? Are you saying you want there to be no taxes or no government?
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  13477. Poor need control. It's disgusting
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  13478. I'm a loser because I'm a kissless virgin at 28(male).
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  13479. He makes cops proud.
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  13480.  @derek.castle  you believe in just-world fallacy.
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  13481. I agree.
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  13482.  @derek.castle  pumping gas does not give you skills to forge a career. And corporations in USA make plenty in profits to pay people more than $7.25/hr. No one "earns" money on their own.
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  13483.  @derek.castle  I'm not racist. Equality doesn't exist nor can it exist. People are not equal in intellect, physical capability, upbringing, social status, anything. No two people have the exact same family, occupation, recreation, dreams, and personality. USA economy, nor any economy, gives everyone a level playing field. Politics IS about what people deserve because politics is about scarcity and values: not just one or the other. If it was just about scarcity, we would have no debate over income inequality. But yet this country doesn't get upset over a neurosurgeon making $700,000 a year or above but ALSO gets upset over a cashier making $15 an hour. Last time I checked, 700,000 is a larger number than 32,000. That's not even an $8 raise. You'd make more money babysitting than using a cash register in some places. As far as my situation goes: I'm a college student, cashier, and intern at once. There is no way, no matter how many internships I work in a row, no matter how long I remain a cashier, for me to be able to support a family or even myself. I'm lucky my family financially supports me because based on making $10.50/hr as a cashier I'd be dead. It's actually more expensive to have a job than to not have one. My only bills are cell phone, health insurance, and gas. These three things alone cost more than what I make. I desire to be a physics professor and screenwriter, but in my current situation, that isn't feasible.
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  13484. He did imply that yes.
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  13485. Same
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  13486.  @Jessica-gy6kr  But do you believe that?
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  13487. Okay
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  13488. Me neither
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  13489. Being a politician requires you to be a sociopath.
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  13490. You are correct
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  13491. Stop trolling.
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  13492. i had to take care of my sick mom because of restrictions on medicaid. she ultimately passed away. i flunked out of school due to the stress, loss financial aid, and didn't get it reinstated despite wake tech knowing what happened to me.
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  13493. Poverty is a policy choice.
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  13494. I bet these Wall Street people wouldn't want to work a minimum wage job.
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  13495. Yep
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  13496.  @Shelora  A YEAR?! No wonder he doesn't care about the minimum wage, he isn't affected by it.
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  13497. It's about priorities. Politicians don't prioritize ending poverty.
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  13498. I'm sorry
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  13499. Yep.
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  13500.  @jted93  exactly
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  13501.  @jted93  I can't buy homes in cash like corporations can
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  13502.  @jted93  that's evil. I can't do anything to stop corporations.
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  13503. Ok.
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  13504. How would you feel with their cashiers made $100,000 a year.
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  13505. Biden has the authority to ensure all universities are enrolled in the federal loans program. All of these loans can be forgiven and the eligibility for universities can be to changed to charge tuition that's a narrow band around the median price. this would cap tuition prices.
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  13506. Republicans don't care about the cost. They're willing to pay more if it means they get to see poor people suffer.
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  13507. You've had sex and a wife. You aren't incel. Once you cross the threshold of having sex, you aren't incel anymore.
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  13508. Because they want to perpetuate poverty as to maintain control.
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  13509.  @eatenvegan1565  the reason rich people hate welfare and don't want universal healthcare is to force workers into terrible jobs at low wages Read this free essay called by Herbert gans functions of poverty.
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  13510.  @eatenvegan1565  my replies are gone
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  13511. ​ @jimbob9407 that's an acceptable risk.
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  13512. First.
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  13513. My mom died in sickness and poverty, and medicaid was expanded after her death. I lost section 8 housing and food stamps, leaving me homeless and starving if not for my dad taking me in. And news ignores the poor. I will never forgive this country for causing her death.
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  13514. They don't support poor families. Republicans hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Republicans want workers to be under the boots of corporations, and this requires them to accept terrible jobs.
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  13515. That's poverty level.
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  13516. That's messed up.
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  13517. I luckily have blue cross blue shield. I'm poor but ineligible for medicaid because I'm ABAWD.
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  13518. So this is a moral issue to you, you believe some people deserve poverty.
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  13519. ​ @plusorminusandtime exactly
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  13520. ​ @onespeedlite the system is the problem.
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  13521. ​@onespeedlite that's the Fallacy of relative privation
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  13522. @onespeedlite  Yes, I'm fine with cashiers and doctors making the same. Your whole statement is both ironic and a steelman: "Flipping burgers" so cashiers are worse than rapists now? Your(and society's)view of McDonald's workers is the entire problem. You should have no problem with how much money cashiers make, even if they made 80k/yr, 800k/yr, whatever the case the may be. This is about morals. About the fact many people morally believe doctors are more important than cashiers. That performing surgery is more important to society(morally) than "flipping burgers." This isn't really about inflation or unemployment at all. And if not needing a degree or training is what really made people upset over cashiers and doctors making the same, then any job doesn't require education that paid as much as doctors would receive just as much disdain. Like actors, journalists, and news anchors. Acting requires no education or training certification of any kind, yet them making millions of dollars per movie or episode is seen as a godsend.
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  13523. @onespeedlite  your real opposition to a living wage is the real reason why most people oppose it: other wallet warrior. Your ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. I truly believe even if cashiers made $800k/yr and the businesses could afford it, people would STILL oppose cashiers making more money.
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  13524.  @glidercoach  you admit entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  13525. @glidercoach  but the point is that minimum wage jobs are dead-end. People are acting like you can become a nuclear engineer if you remain a janitor or cashier long enough.
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  13526.  @onespeedlite  1. skill means level of education or responsbility. a bagger's job does not increase either of these things no matter how long someone is employed there. You admit this yourself with your own statement. 2. Poverty is a societal problem, as is healthcare, education, immigration, etc. If you work, you don't deserve poverty, period. I blame corporations for impoverishing millions, but i blame the government even more for allowing this. 3. By sheer definition of dead-end, an entry level job does not increase in scope to demand more money according to you. 4. You also believe in just-world fallacy. If every low wage worker woke up tomorrow and busted their butt are they all going to get that promotion? Are they all going to get a pay raise? No. Most of them will be stuck in that low wage job. It would be like me claiming if every cop in my city tried their best, they would all become police chief all at once. 5. You admit companies designed these jobs to be dead-end and provided these jobs with zero benefits or chance for advancement. You can't have it both ways. You can't admit these jobs by design give you no skills but expect the job to give you skills at the same time. 6. This reveals something even deeper about the minimum wage debate: people refuse to shift their values. they WANT cashiers like they WANT doctors. They outright admit they don't want cashiers to make more, but ALSO admit they don't want the job's nature to change to such a degree to where cashiers have enough skills to make more money in the first place. After all, if this already happened, they would no longer be cashiers.
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  13527.  @onespeedlite  6b. I'll give you a perfect example of this ridiculousness. I complain a brain surgeon makes more than me, a janitor(as an example i am not a janitor). But 99% of people don't want brain surgeons to make less. Okay, they make alot because they have skills, right? Okay, so remove the skill. Remove the education required to be a doctor. If you can play a game of operation then you receive a medical degree. Except NOONE supports that either. THEN THAT MEANS THEY DON"T WANT THE JOB TO CHANGE.
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  13528. @onespeedlite  I'm saying that minimum wage jobs are dead-end. And that the real opposition people have to it is that their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. Many people think they have the right to shame poor people for wanting a better life, as if they're lazy and entitled. That's what this minimum wage debate is all about. It isn't about inflation, unemployment, or automation. It is about people believing, on some level, that poverty is acceptable. That's all I'm trying to say.
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  13529. and that's wrong because? entry level jobs don't give you skills. I am not going to keep repeating that point. not everyone can be a doctor. not everyone can be a nuclear engineer. Not everyone can even work in the first place. @glidercoach 
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  13530. i don't what you're upset about. being a cashier pays you nothing, gives you zero benefits or chance or advancement. That is dead-end. @glidercoach  Not everyone can work "desirable" jobs because there are not enough and even if there were, not everyone can work full-time or work at all.
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  13531. @glidercoach yes. You also imply everyone can work full-time, even while being healthy. When I was a cashier, you got health insurance if you worked 32 hours a week for 3 weeks straight. I was kept at 28 hours a week, thus receiving no healthcare, 401k, nothing. On top of making $10/hr with a $0.50 raise. I don't understand why you don't want to blame corporations for screwing workers over, for wanting to make far more money than even triple what poor people demand, and why you believe being a cashier is a training program.
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  13532. @glidercoach  I know things cost money. But I'm trying to tell you that corporations aren't willing to pay people more, even though they're capable. This is about the willingness to help people, not the capability. Anyway, I left that job and am looking into remote jobs. But also having to work for scholarships and grants because I want to finish my physics degree
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  13533. @onespeedlite  they're required by law to do it for full-time workers, they are greedy for forcing people to be kept part-time to avoid this. No one is asking to own a lamborghini, simply make enough to survive, and companies don't want to do that. How about changing the law so companies can't exploit this loophole?
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  13534.  @onespeedlite  and leaving wouldn't change the underlying problem of them depriving millions of people of health insurance.
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  13535. @onespeedlite  they're literally offer full-time positions no one. And even in places where part-time workers can get health benefits, it's intentionally made to be too expensive and more expensive to get than if you're full-time. I call that dishonesty and greed.
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  13536.  @onespeedlite  okay. I'll focus on getting my physics degree.
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  13537. @onespeedlite  well, being a cashier had such little skills that my skillset was almost worthless. I can't really offer anything to anyone. Not in my current state. Well. I just want my physics degree. I don't want to have suffer in poverty to fo it. Yet I do. How is that fair? I must pay a greater price than others. Well, there is nothing I can do to make life equal or having a college degree a right. All I can do now is accept getting a college degree will require hard work. Becoming a physicist is something worthwhile both financially and morally.
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  13538. @onespeedlite  well, me complaining hasn't made things easier. I'm in community college now pursuing an Associate’s of Science. I was able to do this and go to a 4 year school at once last spring 2023. This isn't easy going to school, but it's what I want to do. I just wish it easier. But that seemingly isn't how life works. Having a college degree isn't a right like voting or freedom of speech. None of the advisors or teachers at my school enjoy hearing me complain, they only care about how hard I'm working and delivering results.
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  13539. @onespeedlite  well. That is making more sense to me. I went to community college when I was 18 and flunked out, losing financial aid. I have returned after nearly 10 years. I was finally able to bring my term GPA up to a 3.0, although my overall GPA is still below a 2.0(it went from 0.867 to 1.45). The school saw how greatly my grades improved(after letting me retake classes), so they are allowing me to be on academic probation, not suspension. This means I could regain financial aid next semester, as opposed to never being eligible to receive it again. I still desire to finish community college with the ultimate goal of getting a physics degree. I know that even with financial aid, I still can't fully support myself, I am putting in the work for scholarships and grants. It isn't easy for me. I get upset at knowing that rich people can afford 12 classes a semester at a private school, live in a mansion, and still not have to work. But I tell myself their lives aren't going to change my journey. I guess what I'm saying is I've wanted life to be easy, but it seems everything I want I must earn.
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  13540. @onespeedlite  I know I said this already. But this is the fallacy of relative privation. After black people got the constitutional right to vote, shouldn't they NOT want anyone else to suffer as much as they did to be able to vote legally? Wouldn't they WANT life to become easier afterward, not just as difficult? I am thankful now that I know I can go to school and pursue physics. Life isn't easy and never will be. I just have to work hard and move on.
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  13541. That's evil
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  13542. $44/hr is a floor, not a ceiling.
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  13543. So am I.
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  13544. Able bodied is a moral term used to imply poor people don't deserve government aid.
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  13545. ​ @spb4455 exactly
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  13546. There was an article on this. Called "trading existential opportunity for existential risk mitigation."
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  13547. Just world fallacy.
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  13548. That's Wal-Mart's fault for having that business model.
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  13549. There aren't millions of white collar jobs.
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  13550.  @austinwilliams3448  I'm implying there aren't enough(white collar jobs)for all of America's working poor to easily get.
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  13551. You can't buy intimacy or affection.
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  13552.  @arldoran  okay
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  13553. ​ @ilcyclista1 or you're poor like me and have horrible health insurance
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  13554. Because what you and Kyle aren't seeing is the disdain for the poor: republicans hate the poor for relying on taxpayer support. They believe poor women don't deserve to have children. That poor women are undeserving of autonomy, of reproductive rights.
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  13555. Yep
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  13556. I'm 29 years old. I've never had sex, kissed, held hands, hugged, or dated.
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  13557. Yes.
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  13558. They believe being poor is a moral choice and thus they think poor people don't deserve or appreciate receiving welfare.
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  13559. Yep
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  13560. It was 10 years ago. Even 30/hr is insufficient now.
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  13561. Inflation is an acceptable risk. What you and others are really saying is that it's more important to have cheap prices than it is for workers to have a living wage.
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  13562. Then you're more upset over lacking cheap prices than workers having a living wage. Meaning you find poverty acceptable
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  13563.  @mikeifyouplease  just like in economics, in ideology, all priorities are not created equal. We must deem certain things intolerable. If working and being in poverty is unacceptable, then we must accept the risk of magnified unemployment.
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  13564.  @mikeifyouplease  inflation is another risk.
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  13565.  @mikeifyouplease  okay cool. Stay safe.
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  13566. YES.
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  13567.  @davec3974  unskilled workers produce far more than $44 worth of labor....
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  13568. Because women DO have more power than men.. If that wasn't the case women would use porn and hookers as much as men.
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  13569. Correct.
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  13570. Right....
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  13571. Yep
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  13572. Unless poor people can afford to run for office, then it won't change
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  13573.  King Charles ✔  Being poor does not automatically qualify you for financial aid. You have to keep up good grades and you also have to enroll in a minimum number of credit hours. These same restrictions apply to grants as well.
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  13574. Lol
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  13575. That's messed up
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  13576.  @johnanderson5156  he didn't pay for it
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  13577.  @OccidentalAryan  ok
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  13578.  @OccidentalAryan  ok I'll pay for it
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  13579. He revealed in one video thousands of women pine after him daily.
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  13580. No Republicans do NOT want that.
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  13581.  @iamcosma7065  value is subjective. Lemonade sellers can make enough to afford a mortgage.....
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  13582.  @iamcosma7065  we as a Society decide what a job is worth. We can decide the job is worth more.
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  13583. Yep
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  13584.  @src4409  yeah go to another job that pays them next to nothing, right?
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  13585. @YourScaryMother  I'd also like to say avarice is a choice. Kamala harris wouldn't accept $1 billion to repeal the 19th amendment, but many other politicians accept far less than this to deprive people of things like Healthcare, clean environment, housing. It's about priorities. What suffering we are not willing to accept.
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  13586.  @dorian7215  chic fil a could pay their cashiers around $100,000/year
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  13587.  @Justin4u4me  exactly.
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  13588.  @Justin4u4me  this is messed up to me. He thinks poor people don't deserve children.
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  13589.  @Justin4u4me  I made $10.50/hr as a cashier. I couldn't even afford shoes.
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  13590. @jbchap996  I think jesse opposes a living wage minimum wage as a moral issue: he believes that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. His moral code says it's immoral to give MW workers something "for free" that other people get through "hard work." This is also why many middle-class people hate poor people receiving government benefits.
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  13591.  @FletchforFreedom  you're a troll as well. Goodbye.
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  13592. ​@JesseJames-vc2bm if you brought working hard, will have everything work out, then you believe in just-world fallacy.
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  13593. Doesn't change underlying issues of corporations wanting to depress wages
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  13594. I've stopped calling myself incel but I'm still an HHKV. I'm broke, have no independence, but I want to improve my health, finish getting my associates degree, and become independent.
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  13595.  @Allaiya.  beautiful.
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  13596. Do I come off as incel?
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  13597. Wow
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  13598.  @edwinamendelssohn5129  "forced" wages, as if they're like the weather.
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  13599.  @edwinamendelssohn5129  people with 0 skills aren't making lots of money
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  13600.  @andyiswonderful  the usa prints its own currency. Taxes are used to create a demand for currency not fund the federal government. And quantative easing.....
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  13601. Fallacy of relative privation.
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  13602. Okay
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  13603.  @awesomesawce400  you are correct but missed the point.
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  13604.  @awesomesawce400  meritocracy is a myth. Everyone lives off of the government.
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  13605.  @kenkneram4819  okay.
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  13606.  @claytonjean6385  yep. No living president has raised the minimum wage to a living wage.
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  13607.  @charlesingram2075  right. They support the rich.
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  13608. Great line of thinking, shaming poor people for wanting a living wage rather than the multi billion dollar corporations who refuse to pay more for American labor.
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  13609. If neutron moderators could speed neutrons up, that would revolutionize nuclear power.
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  13610. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. If tuition wasn't $2,700 per class, I could graduate school debt-free.
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  13611.  @davidlafleche1142  I don't have the power to change that.
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  13612. Wow
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  13613. Hypocritical
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  13614. Many liberals understand this. It doesn't make poverty acceptable.
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  13615. Dumb politicians.
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  13616. Cool. Go pay for a six figure college degree making minimum wage while supporting yourself? Easy.
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  13617. Lol what? Stock market is essentially gambling, those wall street workers are not magically working 10,000 times harder than a brain surgeon. And wages increase for them because of market concentrations, intellectual property laws, and technological innovations, not their hard work. Productivity measures labor output, which consists more of the worker's education or skill set or work ethic
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  13618. And minimum wage pays low because profit sharing transfers profits upwards to owners not downwards
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  13619. Hahahaha.
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  13620.  @Mmuitd  He's delusional
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  13621.  @gregorylyon1004  greed is a choice. Murder and rape are not illegal because people gain or lose money. Women's suffrage is more important than profits or unemployment.
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  13622. ​@DeathAndTaxesAbolishonist 1. Not how it works 2. Corporations are already greedy enough to refuse to pay more for American labor.
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  13623. ​ @Vexarax I'm incel virgin.
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  13624. Reading that made me cry. To think I believed women were never lonely like men makes me feel bad. There is someone out there for you. I would love to talk about everything you mentioned besides the whale oil. I haven't used a hooker, because, as you implied, you can't buy intimacy. ​ @Vexarax 
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  13625.  @Vexarax  my comments keep getting erased..Why?? Anyway. I don't hold women at fault for my celibacy. The truth is, I'm a loser and that's why I'm a virgin.
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  13626. ​ @Vexarax  I don't want to sleep with a woman who isn't attracted to me but I cannot be a creep either.
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  13627. I'm in tears, just try to send your replies one more time. Or comment on my incel videos I've made. Comments don't seem to get deleted there. ​ @Vexarax 
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  13628. ​ @Vexarax  YouTube has a crappy spam filter system.
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  13629. ​ @Vexarax but I don't hate women. A woman gave birth to me.
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  13630. ​ @Vexarax I wish I could read your replies.
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  13631. Correct. It's called the myth of meritocracy.
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  13632. I was a cashier. My $ 17/hour wage proposal was rejected. I was paid $10/hr instead. My "raise" was $0.50!
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  13633. ​ @ShyGuy83 epic
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  13634. It's crazy to me too.
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  13635.  @aaronhumphrey3514  yes...
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  13636. That's the point.
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  13637. What you're saying is you want Minimum wage workers in poverty.
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  13638. Exactly
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  13639. Except conservatives support government help to the poor
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  13640. Except conservatives don't believe you. They believe poor, disabled, and minimum wage workers don't deserve a living wage.
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  13641. Employers want to have their cake and eat it too.
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  13642.  @kundalinimind1  depressing if he can afford a $100 million home but most people can't afford a $300,000 home.
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  13643. Union busting is about control.
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  13644. That's messed up
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  13645. Just world fallacy.
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  13646. I agree with you as an incel myself​ @Nickxxx85 
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  13647. To exert control and have cheap labor.
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  13648. Yep.
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  13649. Exactly.
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  13650. Because people are brainwashed by identity politics
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  13651. If cashiers made $80,000/yr how would you feel?
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  13652. I'm poor.
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  13653. ​ @Redd_Fawkes okay
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  13654. i'm incel with some success with women.
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  13655. That's messed up
    1
  13656. I'll need income before I can do that because I'm broke as a cashier
    1
  13657. Lol
    1
  13658. ​ @alexcarter2461 I'm a rapist if I use an escort because the sex isn't based on attraction.
    1
  13659. Disgusting. It's gross how wealthy USA is but 76% of the country is screwed over.
    1
  13660. Kyle never does.
    1
  13661. Wow.
    1
  13662. That made me cry
    1
  13663. I'm poor and cry
    1
  13664. Right. Chic fil a could pay its workers $100,000 a year.
    1
  13665. I've had sex 0 times.
    1
  13666. Lol survivorship bias AND just world fallacy.
    1
  13667. except politicans are bought by corporations.
    1
  13668. the truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
    1
  13669. ​ @jasonellis4330 I can't get laid.
    1
  13670. Yep
    1
  13671. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education grant?
    1
  13672. To limit relative inequality.
    1
  13673. And the fundamental problem with income redistribution is it diverts money from the rich to the poor. If there were no rich or poor people, we wouldn't keep needing redistribution.
    1
  13674.  @salildeshpande7  I didn't say inequality. I said the level of inequality.
    1
  13675.  @salildeshpande7  and the level of inequality is a measurement of how we treat people, how we value them. Obviously workers are not perfectly equal(doctors should make more than janitors) but workers aren't perfectly unequal either(i.e. a billionaire vs an $11/hr customer service worker)
    1
  13676. Poor people such as myself can't afford private schools.
    1
  13677. That isn't fair
    1
  13678.  @vaccariaofsamsara  okay
    1
  13679. Everything is about money
    1
  13680. Yes
    1
  13681. Exactly.
    1
  13682. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
    1
  13683. Exactly.
    1
  13684. As an incel myself, I know you are right.
    1
  13685. Yep.
    1
  13686. It's about control
    1
  13687. Politicians want poverty.
    1
  13688. Only If they're disabled or dead or dying does that happen
    1
  13689. He could crying.
    1
  13690.  @boosted211  because conservatives like Crowder want to pay the poor less to motivate them to work harder.
    1
  13691. You've actually revealed the real reason conservatives oppose welfare: because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
    1
  13692. I'm incel virgin at 29. I believe I haven't tried hard enough to have sex
    1
  13693. Conservatives tend to believe in just world fallacy. Because of this, they believe all poor people are poor because they're lazy. Poverty is not and can not be due to systemic problems. If systemic problems are the cause, then they are admitting effort can only get you so far.
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  13694. When Republicans say "low skill level," what they're really saying is they don't believe minimum wage workers deserve to make more money. The minimum wage debate to conservatives is a moral one. They believe that poor people are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors were crying about poverty, conservatives would want a $200/hr minimum wage then.
    1
  13695. Yep.
    1
  13696. ​ @Nun195 okay
    1
  13697. No. Tying immigration to work forces wages to be even lower. How about penalize corporations who want cheap labor and exploitation.
    1
  13698. ​ @Truecrimecommunity able bodied is a moral term used to imply poor people don't deserve government assistance.
    1
  13699.  @robclark3095  the core problem here is rich people. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs, only the poor and unskilled do. Welfare empowers poor people to reject the cheap wages corporations offer. If corporations stopped paying such low wages, the demand for welfare and illegal immigration would cease.
    1
  13700.  @robclark3095  ok
    1
  13701. Fallacy of relative privation
    1
  13702. I wonder why.
    1
  13703. ​ @HedgeHermit wrong. I'm involuntarily celibate
    1
  13704. The poor people campaign estimates the true number of people in poverty to be 140 million-43% of the population
    1
  13705. You're right
    1
  13706. I hate rich people
    1
  13707.  @dominikpanufnik8585  and keep creating poverty wage jobs, yes.
    1
  13708.  @dominikpanufnik8585  it sure will.
    1
  13709. Incels do not desire sex. they desire power and control. a prostitute will not help them.
    1
  13710. In china you can be executed for it.
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  13711. $50/hr immediately.
    1
  13712. Using a prostitute solves nothing long-term, sincd I would still be unable to convince a woman to be with me who likes me.
    1
  13713. Exactly
    1
  13714. You're correct
    1
  13715. ROFL
    1
  13716. I'm 29 basically in life at 18- no car, go to community college. I have to get a car because campus is way too far away to use a bus for
    1
  13717. Yep
    1
  13718. Work requirements exist because they want to try to force more people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  13719. Legalizing prostitution will not stop me from being an incel.
    1
  13720. ​@loganray3503 I'm not using a prostitute because she's only with me for money. You can't buy respect or love. I want sex with intimacy, with emotional vulnerability. Not transactional sex with a woman who isn't attracted to me.
    1
  13721. Correct. That's why no CEO has implemented a maximum wage. Imagine if there was a maximum wage of 6 to 1. CEOs can't make more than 6x the annual compensation of their lowest paid worker.
    1
  13722. You mean how much senators make at 7:25?
    1
  13723. Exactly.
    1
  13724. You can't work 40 hours a week because then you're eligible for benefits.
    1
  13725.  @walterhankins6882  he believes in just-world fallacy.
    1
  13726. ​ @Wislytig  wow.
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  13727.  @shgalagalaa  I won't return then. I've always wanted to pursue other things.
    1
  13728. @shgalagalaa  I'm in community college now. I hope to get an Associate’s of Science. Then bachelor's of science (physics). Do both of those in the next 5 years. I'll still upskill in other areas.
    1
  13729.  @shgalagalaa  I was successful at screenwriting for a while. I also wanted to pursue anchoring/reporting. I'll have to choose one to do for the next 5 years
    1
  13730.  @shgalagalaa  is it logical that I made so little?
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  13731.  @shgalagalaa  oh I see.
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  13732.  @shgalagalaa  how do you feel morally about it?
    1
  13733. Conservatives believe only the rich and corporations deserve money.
    1
  13734. Yep
    1
  13735. Yes. But conservatives don't see it that way.
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  13736. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
    1
  13737. But Republicans don't want to do this because they side with employers.
    1
  13738. They'd kill themselves.
    1
  13739. Yep
    1
  13740. Not everyone can be promoted or afford college or training certification after high school.
    1
  13741. People say that because they're using smoke and mirrors to conceal the fact that they want America to have an economic caste system. Where Society is structured based on a hierarchy.." Skill".
    1
  13742. Unskilled workers deserve to be at the bottom of the economic ladder. Highly-skilled workers deserve to be at the top and moderately skilled workers deserve to be in the middle. So cashiers bottom. Ceos top. STEM workers middle.
    1
  13743. Myth of meritocracy
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  13744.  @Zelp789  that's irony
    1
  13745. Seriously?
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  13746.  @LaughterOnWater  first of all that's messed up. second of all i did not know a university can just award a degree to any person....
    1
  13747.  @LaughterOnWater  so harvard could literally award me a master's degree in anything? I don't have to pass any class? How is that legal?
    1
  13748. They're cherry-picking data
    1
  13749. I'm fine with cancelling all consumer debt!
    1
  13750. Great idea!
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  13751. Workfare is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs since welfare is better.
    1
  13752. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  13753. Wow
    1
  13754. Exactly.
    1
  13755. I've been called a loser for being a virgin past 25.
    1
  13756. there are 2 reasons conservatives hate welfare, like the black lady. 1. Republicans oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle-class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  13757. Conservatives oppose social insurance, the fortunate helping the misfortunate, which is why they despise welfare.
    1
  13758. Exactly
    1
  13759. We the taxpayers are getting our money back
    1
  13760. Because politicians want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs by restricting welfare
    1
  13761. Yes
    1
  13762. That doesn't mean the workers don't deserve $15/hr.
    1
  13763.  @nooked23  yes it's the government's job to step in when employees don't have enough bargaining power.
    1
  13764.  @nooked23  you shouldn't need to earn "skills" they're working 40 hours a week they deserve a living wage. And good luck getting skills with the price of college being outrageous.
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  13765. @Cassady  I... you are right. I need to stop... feeling entitled. I've decided to pursue an Associate’s of Science degree. And also journalism. I'll be applying to entry-level journalism jobs.
    1
  13766. Exactly​ @spongeintheshoe 
    1
  13767. that is messed up.
    1
  13768. That's messed up
    1
  13769. ​ @sandsmarc amazing when owners and shareholders want more money, it's fine, but when employees want more money, it's terrible. Also, they can't work all the time. If they're already expected to work a full-time job, then paying workers enough for childcare would allow workers to be more productive. Your real opposition here is in employees demanding a standard of life you believe they don't deserve.
    1
  13770. Why aren't pensions offered anymore?
    1
  13771. Wow
    1
  13772. I agree.
    1
  13773. Exactly. But the problem is many people think poor and disabled people don't deserve healthcare.
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  13774. 1. Academic Status: Cumulative GPA: 1.1, Attempted Credits: 89, Completed Credits: 27, Transferable Credits: 15 2. Financial Aid: Denied, unable to access federal work-study 3. Employment: Unemployed, limited to minimum-wage jobs due to full-time enrollment 4. Living Situation: No car, no house, no income, relying on others for support
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  13775. Correct.
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  13776. Blame greedy corporations, not poor people
    1
  13777. Poverty isn't vague.
    1
  13778. That's how you motivate the poor to work harder! Pay them less!
    1
  13779. myth of meritocracy. Day in and day out.
    1
  13780. Why those people?
    1
  13781.  @tylerpaine7436  oh okay. Cool.
    1
  13782. Yep.
    1
  13783. ​ @ookamiblade6318 exactly
    1
  13784.  @JBG1968  exactly.
    1
  13785.  @JBG1968  yes
    1
  13786.  @TheWinterscoming  that doesn't change the underlying problem.
    1
  13787.  @benshow3000  just-world fallacy my friend
    1
  13788. Yep
    1
  13789. Sounds like a great idea
    1
  13790. Ok
    1
  13791. Because rich people and corporations fund republican campaigns. Poor people don't.
    1
  13792. The reason the rich don't want universal healthcare is to force more people into medical debt. People who don't need welfare, charity or debt in order to survive are harder to control than those people that do. It's about ensuring society's dirty work is done so the rich can continue to live their Easy lives.
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  13793. ​ @t.h.8475 the real reason politicians hate welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Welfare pays more than minimum wage work, so politicians restrict welfare.
    1
  13794. By definition - you can't. I'm poor myself and I want to run for office. I make $10.50/hour, so I can't.
    1
  13795. There would have to be a public fund that was distributed equally to all candidates. If you win more than 5% of the popular vote then you keep the money.
    1
  13796. Public fund
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  13797.  @PaulADAigle  that's what I meant. The former Raleigh Mayor made $35k/year. But as CEO of a pharmaceutical company, she was worth $76.3. MILLION. FUCKING. DOLLARS. Even solving the millennial problems wouldn't make me that rich.
    1
  13798.  @PaulADAigle  okay
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  13799.  @PaulADAigle  my replies are gone
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  13800.  @PaulADAigle  exactly. What would the minimum wage have to be to reach $76 million? $8,000 per hour? It sucks that poor people make up 43% of the population but have no effective political voice.
    1
  13801.  @PaulADAigle  yes
    1
  13802. That's messed up.
    1
  13803. @Kthb80  you have the wrong takeaway message. If people make more money working part-time collecting welfare than working full-time and not collecting welfare, then that wouldn't need to be the case if jobs paid enough to obviate the need for welfare in the first place. A cashier would need food stamps even with 0 children. A doctor wouldn't need food stamps even with 5 children. The problem is that businesses refuse to pay more for American labor. Welfare has never been designed to abolish poverty....that was the original point I made. If welfare was truly designed to abolish poverty, then there'd be no work requirements or any other means testing, a more realistic poverty level, and almost no administrative work.
    1
  13804. Exactly
    1
  13805. That's an acceptable risk. You're saying you're opposed to the inconveniences which would accompany poverty's reduction.
    1
  13806. ​ @Heissin  exactly.
    1
  13807.  @exploderish  small businesses shutting down/increased unemployment is what you're complaining about. To you, you're more concerned with sustaining small businesses than workers making a living wage.
    1
  13808. @mike  I'm concerned about everyone. I don't care that some CEOs make $100 million a year. I don't care if they made trillions. I only want all workers to make a living.
    1
  13809. It's messed up.
    1
  13810. It's called just-world fallacy.
    1
  13811. Ok
    1
  13812. Yep
    1
  13813. I'm on Medicaid while going to school. I have to make below $20k or above $50k to have healthcare.
    1
  13814. Messed up.
    1
  13815. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  13816. Replace welfare with guaranteed minimum income.
    1
  13817. Correct.
    1
  13818. Exactly.
    1
  13819. Harry potter
    1
  13820. Wow.
    1
  13821. Because their capitalist view is people who can't work are worthless
    1
  13822.  @supastratt  44% of the population is in poverty. That 12.8% figure is based on outdated metrics.
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  13823.  @supastratt  it varies based on family composition and location. But the bottom line is the official poverty census ignores the millions of people who make above the official poverty line but still don't make enough to make ends meet.
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  13824.  @supastratt  for example I make $10 an hour, which is above the poverty wage where I live, but it is nowhere near enough to survive on my own.
    1
  13825.  @supastratt  In my city a poverty wage for a single person is $6.19/hr. So yes, according to city guidelines I'm "not" in poverty. But like you said, I'm in poverty anyway. And I can't work full-time on top of that since if I did I'd be eligible for benefits. So I work 28/hrs a week. I can not live independently unless I used food stamps, Medicaid and Section 8 housing. And even if I did use them, I'd still be in poverty still. Since none of those regulations change the fact I make a poverty wage in the first place.
    1
  13826.  @supastratt  you don't think it's bad I and millions others make a poverty wage in the first place? I'm also enrolled in community college and participate in a mathematics-physics internship. I seek to finish trade school, transfer to university, and in the long-term, become an astrophysicist. I have no desire to drop out of school or be a cashier forever.
    1
  13827.  @supastratt  oh ok. Yes man. I cry that I live in poverty. I believe conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe that minimum wage workers are asking to make more money than their "low-level" abilities entitle them to earn. I'm positive if doctors were crying to make $15 an hour the same conservatives would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage.
    1
  13828.  @supastratt  yes. I don't see any reason to vote IMO. Not when north Carolina doesn't raise the minimum wage or cap tuition costs or do anything to stop inflation.
    1
  13829.  @supastratt  with the profits places like Chic Fil A and McDonald's make, their cashiers the be making around $100,000/yr...if it wasn't for corporate greed.
    1
  13830. Thank you for the talk/debate. It helps me vent too.
    1
  13831. You're right.
    1
  13832. With unions, yes.
    1
  13833. Exactly
    1
  13834. ​@einnAnnie except that the Income limit is so low as to force minimum wage employment. And being a student doesn't qualify as work. And people can't work for various reasons.
    1
  13835. No college student chooses how high tuition is. Otherwise, I wouldn't be stuck with paying $3,000/class.
    1
  13836. I made $11/hr.
    1
  13837. corporate news media pays that much for anchors because journalism is about name recognition now, not actual journalism.
    1
  13838. Yep
    1
  13839. in the usa there are right to work laws which don't mandate unions and "at will employment" laws which allow employers to fire any worker at any time for any reason or no reason at all. Thus if you tried to form a union you'd get terminated immediately.
    1
  13840. It needs to be written down in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough to people from them to not be in poverty. Enough to live a healthy and humane life. I believe there should be a new social contract: if you're working you won't be poor.
    1
  13841. Republicans believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
    1
  13842. It's violence.... College Education isn't free and high school diploma isn't a ticket to middle class anymore.
    1
  13843.  @m.jackson2609  everyone is reliant on the government.
    1
  13844. Yep.
    1
  13845. ​ @ottz2506 yep. It's called being an other wallet warrior
    1
  13846. McCarthy isn't ignorant because you aren't aware of his real motive- politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
    1
  13847. I'm ECSTATIC he got laid!! I'm an outlier among incels. I want him to keep being happy. I'm miserable.
    1
  13848. Yep​ @vulcanfeline 
    1
  13849. And neutron stars and black holes produce vast amounts of antimatter in their particle jets, since they are cosmic level particle colliders.
    1
  13850. ​ @common_undead exactly.
    1
  13851.  @jp92382  you learn brain surgery from pushing carts lol.
    1
  13852.  @jp92382  I'm aware.
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  13853.  @jp92382  my point was minimum wage jobs don't give you skills needed to be a stem lord.
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  13854.  @jp92382  you aren't becoming an aerospace engineer for NASA from serving ice cream. Minimum wage jobs are dead end.
    1
  13855. I want to lose my virginity more than anything.
    1
  13856. ​ @gaia7240 ok so I'll stop using tinder.
    1
  13857. the government has destroyed the ability to unionize and with massive poverty, noone can stand up or fight back.
    1
  13858. Myth of meritocracy
    1
  13859.  @stainedClass2112  he doesn't believe cashiers deserve a decent life.
    1
  13860. ​ @watts1012  yep.
    1
  13861. That's been done already and the senators know it.
    1
  13862. That's survivorship bias
    1
  13863. ​ @rrmackay you believe in just world fallacy
    1
  13864. That's survivorship bias
    1
  13865. What?
    1
  13866. Yes it is an economic problem. It's literally not having enough money which results from low wage employment. Can you buy a $800,000 house making $7.25 an hour?
    1
  13867.  @ronaldpoole3273  lol that's a moral belief. And you're ignoring systemic problems.
    1
  13868.  @ronaldpoole3273  seems like you're justifying poverty to me. Saying someone "shouldn't" have a house Is a big difference then "can't."
    1
  13869.  @ronaldpoole3273  no it isn't.
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  13870.  @ronaldpoole3273  then you're saying half of Americans are lazy.
    1
  13871.  @Dave-xu5pr  good god.
    1
  13872. Yep. It's a terrible gap
    1
  13873.  @MsNatiBug  most people can't afford to do that or are.too scared
    1
  13874.  @MsNatiBug  okay
    1
  13875. I'm crying laughing ​ @Elkator955 
    1
  13876. Hello. I'm an incel reading every comment.
    1
  13877. UBI's real political problem is that it empowers poor people.
    1
  13878.  @jdlech  yep
    1
  13879. Exactly
    1
  13880. Conservatives believe others should suffer because of just-world fallacy.
    1
  13881. Gross.
    1
  13882. Yep
    1
  13883. Wow
    1
  13884.  @Apoplectic_Spock  you'd have a better life.
    1
  13885. Yeah i heard that too.
    1
  13886. Do you remember nixon family assistance plan?
    1
  13887.  @ysf-psfx  voting is a right but receiving a vote is a privilege?
    1
  13888.  @sentientnatalie  amazing!
    1
  13889. Right. That's not possible now.
    1
  13890. Then you want cheap prices over workers having a living wage
    1
  13891. *loved?
    1
  13892.  @annarboriter  You're preaching to the choir.
    1
  13893. That'd the point.
    1
  13894. Yep.
    1
  13895.  @kennethwers  not everyone can be a CEO
    1
  13896. you don't have to convince me, i'm in the same boat as you. I lost my mom due to poverty and health issues. The reason many people hate the poor is because of just-world fallacy: the false premise that working hard is all you need to do to succeed. To admit the world is NOT just is to relinquish control. It is to admit people no longer have agency. And people are afraid of life when they are not in control.  @jlp1528 
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  13897. Unfortunately your story will fall on deaf ears of our government: 1. Republicans morally oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class. 2. Scarcity- poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  13898. 3. Politicians are heartless bastards
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  13899. Republicans believe in just-world fallacy. They assign value to people based on how hard they work. In their eyes if you don't work hard enough (poor people) or can't work(disabled people) then you have no value.
    1
  13900. ​ @foodhoarder9434 inflation is an acceptable risk.
    1
  13901. the truth of our politics is based on deciding between existential risk mitigation and exsitential opportunity. All i'm saying is if people choose risk mitgation(inflation, unemployment, automation)over opportunity(of an emerging workforce not needing welfare) then people truly don't find poverty unacceptable. @foodhoarder9434 
    1
  13902. did my comment get deleted? @foodhoarder9434 
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  13903. ​ @foodhoarder9434 my notifications are forever messed up. What I'm saying is this: All priorities are not created equal. If ending poverty was the top priority, then magnified inflation and unemployment would be risks we would accept.
    1
  13904.  @foodhoarder9434  ok
    1
  13905. And that they're too financially well off.
    1
  13906. Nancy pelosi makes six figures as a senator. $8 million a year from stocks. And has a net worth of $250 million.
    1
  13907. To keep poor people out of school
    1
  13908. I wish I had a full grant
    1
  13909. Not everyone can increase their skills or advance past minimum wage. Minimum wage jobs are dead end and give you no skills.
    1
  13910.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. I attend community college to hopefully obtain a Physics Degree.
    1
  13911.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  but these people are already working.....
    1
  13912.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  I go to community college at 29. I sacrificed nearly all my 20s to taking care of my sick mom, who passed away. I could've gotten my physics degree by now, had I abandoned her. Now I'm ten years behind in life, struggling to get a degree that won't come overnight.
    1
  13913.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  um. The government sets the minimum wage. That's a policy choice. The government doesn't mandate corporations provide benefits like health insurance. The government also doesn't penalize corporations for destroying unions or resorting to outsourcing. The labor market system is designed to allow poverty to persist. There is nothing magic about it
    1
  13914.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  if poverty is a policy choice, a design, then it is something that can be eliminated. Almost half of people live in poverty in USA already. How do you explain that?
    1
  13915. ​ @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 poverty is a policy choice, it can be eliminated, it simply isn't among our priorities.
    1
  13916.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  individual choices are not the reason for the existence of poverty. Rather, it's political choices to not help the poor. It's a systemic problem, not an individual one.
    1
  13917.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  Really? Where do I begin? For starters, welfare isn't based on just income. Second, welfare has work requirements in many cases. Third, these are needlessly complicated programs instead of being a simple income grant. Fourth, college isn't made affordable, despite education being literally one of two ways to increase your skills. Fifth, politicians have done nothing to lessen or outright eliminate the gap between the rich and the poor. I could go on, but you get my point.
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  13918.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  just because some people succeed does not mean everyone can succeed. You can't possibly believe that the millions in poverty are there due to laziness.
    1
  13919.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  I don't understand what you're saying. On one hand you say everyone can escape poverty but also say everyone cannot do it at once?
    1
  13920.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  if you believe that, then you must believe in just world fallacy.
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  13921.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  if you think individual effort can overcome any obstacle, that there are no systemic issues that are too difficult to tackle, yes, that is just world fallacy.
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  13922. Minimum wage jobs are real jobs. Stop demeaning poor people.
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  13923. Keep being delusional ​ @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 
    1
  13924.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  minimum wage jobs are dead-end but people want them to be filled at once. So what you are saying is you are fine with poverty existing. That is your whole argument here. Just because I believe poverty is wrong, does not make me a leftist. I'm an adult, I'm poor while attending community college and eventually transfer to university. While I'm doing that I'm relegated to minimum wage jobs. I cannot have the career you wrongfully claim every adult can get overnight. And not everyone can even attend any college at all.
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  13925.  @EowynsResolve  you are working for a real company and making real dollars...it is a real job. It is not some made-up thing people do. There are more minimum wage jobs than career jobs at these places. Minimum wage jobs are already career jobs. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Everyone cannot be a trade worker. Able bodied is a moral term used to imply poor people are lazy and don't work hard enough to escape poverty.
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  13926. Yes it is crazy
    1
  13927. It's called survivorship bias.
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  13928. Correct. That's a systemic problem as well if 99% of the population in the wealthiest country in the world can't afford basic housing.
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  13929. You got to have wage slaves in order for corporations to remain powerful
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  13930. Ok.
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  13931. Okay.​ @JhoferGamer 
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  13932. Gun control doesn't work. The underlying problem is mental illness.
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  13933. Yes
    1
  13934. Holy crap.
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  13935. That would piss off A LOT of rich people
    1
  13936. Yep.
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  13937. They want poverty to exist.
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  13938. Republicans believe poor women don't deserve to have children
    1
  13939. Exactly
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  13940. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office
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  13941. They know. They just don't care.
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  13942. @bryanavila8168  that seems.... Messed up. But that also must mean LA has too many gun owners for police to manage.
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  13943. They hate poor people.
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  13944. It would take 4% of GDP to end poverty.
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  13945. Conservatives are angry whenever poor people suffer less
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  13946. I thought half the country makes 35k-40k a year..... Noone except millionaires and billionaires can afford that.
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  13947. The USA is a low wage nation with no social safety net.
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  13948. According to Republicans: When the government helps rich people it's called "capitalism." But when the government helps poor people, it's called "socialism" or "communism."
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  13949. ​ @jaxcrax9644 ok
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  13950. It's over $5,000/yr now....
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  13951. ​ @jimbob9407 acting can be done by children, yet actors don't receive as much disdain
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  13952. ​ @eragon78 I agree.
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  13953. They feed off the core of republican ideology- fear of change
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  13954. Exactly.
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  13955.  @irrationalmale  how does it make you feel?
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  13956. Wow
    1
  13957.  @Terrackhimself  my comment explains why
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  13958. Disabled people are seen as a burden ​ @Terrackhimself 
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  13959. @jn1211  wow
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  13960. Holy cow.
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  13961. Ok
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  13962. The reasons republicans block welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  13963.  @apmcx  okay
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  13964.  @bwofficial1776  why is it a handout when poor people ask for help, but not the rich? That's a double standard
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  13965.  @bwofficial1776  my replies are gone
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  13966.  @bwofficial1776  welfare is a not handout because being poor is not a moral failing
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  13967. These are millionaire hacks who don't make minimum wage themselves.
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  13968. So long story short he could wipe out poverty wages but doesn't?
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  13969. I'm a virgin at 29. I don't want a prostitute because you can't buy intimacy. A hooker doesn't like me.
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  13970. It's called Calvinism.
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  13971.  @booskie4316  that's the point.
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  13972. ​ @tonyjones1560 wow
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  13973. That's messed up.
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  13974. Workers lack bargaining power.
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  13975. ​ @robinmc142 you believe in just world fallacy
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  13976. Yep.
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  13977. Wow
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  13978. Able bodied is a moral term used to imply poor people don't work hard enough to earn government assistance.
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  13979. I'm on welfare while attending community college. I have no incentive to work a minimum wage job. I prefer being on welfare.
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  13980. ​ @wilcee238 exactly
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  13981. Having such a condition will lock out many people out of college.
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  13982. You can't
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  13983. It's called hating the poor.
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  13984. Yep​ @SurielTheSeventh 
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  13985. Correct.
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  13986. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country My mom died in sickness and poverty, and medicaid was expanded after her death. I lost section 8 housing and food stamps, leaving me homeless and starving if not for my dad taking me in. And news ignores the poor. I will never forgive this country for causing her death.
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  13987. Yep.
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  13988. Sounds like you believe in just-world fallacy.
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  13989. yes we are enabling them. first off there aren't enough high paying, salaried jobs for all workers. Second off the money needed to get a college degree in "worthy" fields isn't being covered by any minimum wage worker. Third off the core problem is to allow no worker to receive poverty wages in the first place.
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  13990. I doubt any doctor would work at WalMart even if the pay was $70/hr. Anyone who has high paying job or is on the path to getting one would not be a cashier. The problem is not everyone has the avenue to be a doctor or "worthy" job.
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  13991.  @fanboy-industries  it depends on if they have the option to pursue an education or get a better job or not.
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  13992.  @fanboy-industries  then the demand is inelastic
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  13993. Doesn't change my central point we do enable them to work at Walmart.
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  13994.  @fanboy-industries  you haven't proven anything....
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  13995. If they had better options they wouldn't work at walmart and even if they did have better options and chose to work there anyway they still don't deserve to make so little
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  13996.  @fanboy-industries  oh okay.
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  13997.  @fanboy-industries  okay...
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  13998.  @fanboy-industries  yes.
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  13999. No because conservatives oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class.
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  14000. ​ @robertnicholls9917  exactly.
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  14001. Poverty is a policy choice.
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  14002. This made me cry
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  14003.  TheRedMenace12  my replies are gone
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  14004.  TheRedMenace12  wow. I'm 29 and I came across the article a few months ago. I'm going to submit an op-ed on world peace and poverty, and that essay sums up perfectly why poverty persists in USA. Everyone in USA has to know deep down that being a CEO isn't a dead-end job, but being a cashier is. And that no billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs or slave wages that corporations pay
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  14005.  TheRedMenace12  I can't see my replies again
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  14006.  TheRedMenace12  correct. Capitalism is about control - high cost of healthcare, education, etc. The rich don't want an equal society or one where the poor have any bargaining power at all
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  14007.  TheRedMenace12  I'm on welfare while going to community college and eventually transfer to university. Welfare is restricted so poor people such as myself are forced into minimum wage jobs, which are dogshit.
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  14008.  @gussfish8670  wow
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  14009.  @elzoog  that's the fault of greedy corporations, not poor people.
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  14010.  @elzoog  yes. It's both. It's all a horrific money making scheme at the cost of the lower and middle classes. But poor people like myself can't afford to run for office and change things. Not when I make $10/hr.
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  14011. Why do you hate pensions?
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  14012.  @meetontheledge1380  he helped strengthen work requirements for welfare, because he wanted poor people forced into minimum wage jobs. He is responsible for the student loan debt crisis too.
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  14013.  @T-q8e  exactly
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  14014.  @ronaldnixon8226  lol
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  14015. What's your point? That their pay is too high?
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  14016.  @Camazotz-kz9wr  their point is what you said: low pay.
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  14017. Thank you
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  14018.  @jessicacowell5424  what do you think of my situation?
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  14019.  @icemachine79  I believe so.
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  14020. ​ @jessicacowell5424 I'm sad
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  14021.  @jessicacowell5424  thanks.
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  14022. ​ @jessicacowell5424 yes. Alot.
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  14023. ​ @jessicacowell5424 yes
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  14024. Yep​ @jessicacowell5424 
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  14025. K
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  14026.  @garryandjanepannell8594  you'd need to make $60/hr
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  14027.  @ericw7754  natural hair causes poverty?
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  14028. It's often about empathy. Conservatives tend to lack the ability to understand the circumstances from people far different than themselves.
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  14029. Conservatives also believe in just-world fallacy. So if passing this bill truly did help reduce poverty, it would be admitting poverty is partially a systemic problem, and that effort is useless.
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  14030. We don't want to end poverty.
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  14031. No.
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  14032. US currency is strong enough to print money endlessly with enough demand to curtail inflation. Besides, the Fed has pumped trillions into the stock market to no avail. Trillions that could've ended homelessness, provided Medicare for All, etc.
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  14033. Some US states have a minimum wage of $5.15. If not for the federal government over riding it.
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  14034. Exactly.
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  14035.  @JSmith-ou3sk  yep.
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  14036.  @muslimminarchist7026  walmart owners know $11/hr is shit pay.
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  14037.  @muslimminarchist7026  so do you support them being on welfare?
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  14038. A federal minimum wage would be the baseline.
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  14039. Ok
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  14040. Yep.
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  14041. Yes. Both require risk and work to achieve.
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  14042. Because there are no female incels
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  14043. Exactly.
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  14044. Yep
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  14045. When there's poverty everywhere, yes people will work for that.
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  14046. I'm on medicaid because I can't afford private insurance
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  14047. Yes
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  14048. No
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  14049. ​ @cgkkjggh9290 yes
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  14050. Ok
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  14051. Correct
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  14052. ​ @ladywolfen  yep.
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  14053. ​@Tacitus there's a power imbalance. A doctor could make $90/hr to Start, I made less than $9/hr as a cashier at one point.
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  14054. ​ @cassady7169  I don't know why you enjoy poverty. Noone deserves to be poor, skills being high or not.
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  14055.  @tacitus6384  That does not justify poverty. And being an actor requires no education or training either, they make millions, and Noone disrespects them.
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  14056.  @tacitus6384  You still don't need any type of degree or previous employment experience to be an actor, and there are literal child actors. What I'm trying to say is this whole debate isn't about economics. It's about status. That's why actors are treated the way they are vs cashiers and ultimately why most people don't care that they make all that money. I think the highest paid actors make millions of dollars per movie or episode, but if cashiers made the same, they would NOT be revered like actors are.
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  14057.  @tacitus6384  poverty is a policy choice. But ultimately it's a choice about what suffering our society deems unacceptable. Rape is unacceptable, poverty isn't, not to politicians. And that last sentence was the fallacy of relative privation.
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  14058. @Tacitus  I don't recall a single Magazine, reality TV show, or late night talk show host interviewing a cashier, subway sandwich maker, or any minimum wage worker, ever. That's more unlikely than me becoming President. You're missing the point here. This debate about wages is about status, not expense. And that poverty isn't truly unacceptable within USA.
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  14059. Exactly. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs UBI empowers poor people to do the same
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  14060. Those jobs normally pay $10/hr. Knowing they could make $50/hr is armed robbery IMHO.
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  14061.  @Bitholeous  I would mandate higher profit sharing across the board. 25-30%. Maybe even 35%. If employees received 25-40% of profits then that works out to over $1 trillion per year that goes to owners(not going to employees).
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  14062. Which is an acceptable risk.
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  14063. That's awful
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  14064. The right believe that because of survivorship bias and just world fallacy.
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  14065.  @stevencoardvenice  which is a death blow to the channel.
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  14066.  @stevencoardvenice  why would youtube do that now?
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  14067. Heaven.
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  14068. Because the government wants poor and disabled people in poverty, they don't want billionaires in poverty.
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  14069. Ok😊
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  14070.  @mohammedsdafiah4132  Jesus Christ
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  14071. Even worse​ @chrisschmidt3409 
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  14072. ​ @brittanyflowerday  exactly.
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  14073. Yep.
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  14074. ​ @FNHaole no you can't
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  14075. LOL.
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  14076. Yep
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  14077. Yep
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  14078.  Howard Bueker  I don't own anything. I can't afford anything on my own. And I'm 27. There are lots of tech jobs I could get to live on my own. But there's no way to pay for college unless I was rich or have a scholarship.
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  14079.  Howard Bueker  I have a high school diploma. I have no felony conviction or conviction of any sort. I have 0 kids and 0 disabilities.
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  14080.  @mtngrl5859  ok
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  14081. Yep
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  14082. Correct.
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  14083. Yep. More like $45/hr.
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  14084. ​ @ardemua that is evil
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  14085.  @GuitarProgressChallenge  lift people out of poverty.
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  14086. No
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  14087. Yes.
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  14088. Correct.
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  14089. Sounds good.
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  14090. Exactly.
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  14091.  @Maddawg31415  I would implement a guaranteed income
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  14092. @Medic MacFly  higher taxes and/or cut spending in other areas. The real political problem isn't the costs, but the benefits.
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  14093.  @Azerfield  yes sir. 1000%!
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  14094.  @Azerfield  poverty destroys countless lives.
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  14095.  @henrygustav7948  wow.
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  14096.  @Dan16673  Every country has poverty. That doesn't change what I said: That poverty is a policy choice.
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  14097.  @Dan16673  if we thought it was terrible like denying women voting or consent we wouldn't tolerate poverty... Yet here we are. Actions speak louder than words.
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  14098.  @Dan16673  I literally just said that every country has poverty.
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  14099.  @Dan16673  lol wtf? That isn't true and you know it.
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  14100.  @Dan16673  Poverty could be eradicated overnight(like in USA) but people in charge have no interest in doing so.
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  14101.  @Dan16673  a scale by definition can be changed.... And the scale is set by us.
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  14102. Glitch
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  14103. So he's a coward
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  14104. Wtf?
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  14105. A prostitute is only sleeping with you for money. She does not like me. She does not find me attractive, and that is not something i want to happen to me.
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  14106. Exactly
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  14107. Still just as bad.
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  14108. Because Lobbying is legal where as bribery is not
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  14109. ​ @noigelskram2435 yep.
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  14110. That's messed up.
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  14111. I'm incel and I believe you.
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  14112.  @citrusbutter7718  that's messed up.
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  14113. Wow
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  14114. Yep
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  14115. there is a power imbalance you are missing, a cashier is more replacable than a doctor. there are millions of people who can be minimum wage workers, the competition is way too high for any individual worker to negotiate for higher pay all on his or her own. you need the government to raise wages.
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  14116. Even if everyone wanted to do that, there are not enough high paying jobs for everyone.
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  14117. That's messed up.
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  14118. That's depressing.
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  14119. I'm 28. I've never dated, held hands, hugged, kissed, or had sex.
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  14120. Exactly
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  14121. EXACTLY.
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  14122. Damn
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  14123. Nobody except consumers who demand Starbucks in the first place.
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  14124. Okay
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  14125. Thank you.
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  14126. Not everyone can be promoted or afford college to get better jobs.
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  14127. ​@Crux of Da Biscut, so you're insulting the poor, elderly. Disabled, felons?
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  14128. ​ @ihsahnakerfeldt9280 exactly
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  14129. Correct.
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  14130. Because conservatives believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  14131. Wow​ @jasonruggles4622 
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  14132. What are your core beliefs?
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  14133. I'm 29 and a virgin
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  14134. I don't want to be a virgin at 30
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  14135. I've let go of my victim hood, and i'm taking more responsibility for my life, but i'm still a virgin.
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  14136. Besides, no one will believe i've changed for real unless I lose my virginity
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  14137.  @monorail4252  I'm guessing it will. But I expect it to solve all my problems in life and eliminate my insecurities
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  14138.  @monorail4252  I've realized sex will not be a pancaea for my life, I have to work for what I desire: college degree, better physical health, and independence
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  14139.  @monorail4252  I won't give up hope on getting my degree.
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  14140. @Monorail425  but also, I have to realize I'm a loser. That's the real reason women won't date me.
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  14141.  @monorail4252  Associate's degree in Science, which is basically a physics degree.
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  14142.  @monorail4252  Well, I'm 28. College women between ages 18-24 want nothing to do with me because I'm too old, women ages 25-29 reject me because I have no skills or independence.
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  14143. @Monorail425  I'm saying I have been rejected in dating by women
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  14144. @Monorail425  okay. Well, in the short term, I have to complete this internship, which cultivates in me giving 2 separate presentations. I want to apply to entry-level biotechnology jobs, and I desire to be a science journalist.. It seems like it's all too much for me, but long story short, I desire a scholarship, earn my degree, and be independent. In the long term, I want to have better and excellent physical health, and be an astrophysicist(why I want this degree).
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  14145.  @monorail4252  okay thanks. I won't give up hope.
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  14146.  @monorail4252  yes. It's something else, man.
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  14147. I am learning to grow up. I know I'm 28 but I don't think it's too late for me to try and turn my life around.
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  14148.  @monorail4252  thank you for that.
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  14149.  @monorail4252  lol I do.
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  14150.  @monorail4252  do I seem incel?
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  14151.  @monorail4252  I see.
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  14152.  @monorail4252  I realized incel is a mindset. Me being single isn't due to my appearance
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  14153.  @monorail4252  it's bad. Men and women both deal with loneliness and despair.
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  14154. Entry level jobs are dead end and don't give you skills.
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  14155. LOL.
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  14156. Correct.
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  14157. Or pay people more so they are enticed to work dead-end undignified jobs.
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  14158.  @kencurtis2403  everyone cannot be engineers/lawyers/doctors if someone has to work dead-end jobs 24/7 by definition. If everyone got a better job, we'd have 100 million engineers and 0 garbage men or cashiers.
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  14159.  @kencurtis2403  if a job is a dead-end and undignified the only way to attract people to them is higher pay.
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  14160.  @kencurtis2403  I work as a cashier and intern making $10.50/hour as a cashier and $60/week as an intern. I use welfare and charity programs in order to survive while I pursue a bachelor's degree in physics.
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  14161.  @kencurtis2403  you don't want people to be desperate for work through starvation... It isn't only young people working entry-level jobs. Not all young people have families to support them.
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  14162. It's socialism when the government helps poor people.
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  14163.  @subgenso6282  but many voters do not acknowledge this.
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  14164.  @CHunt-cz1ek  I agree.
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  14165.  @kvaka009  that's rephrasing it but it's the same core problem - cheap labor.
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  14166.  @schoolingdiana9086  ok
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  14167. Correct. Half the country is mired in poverty.
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  14168. The core problem in politics is ideological. Politicians don't view debt as unacceptable like rape
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  14169. except it's not affordable, otherwise loans would not be needed. I dont know what you're not getting. No CEO qualifies for Pell Grants or food stamps. No neurosurgeon does either. Nor would they apply even if they could get them. And how loans are distributed creates poverty as well. Crime is a policy choice. As is everything else. Society makes the wrong choices daily. @kyle1235 
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  14170. the tuition costs can be limited while also being free for students, but politicans don't want to do this either. @kyle1235 
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  14171. that too. @Boris80b 
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  14172. You can't explain what sex is like to someone who's never had it.
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  14173.  @shadowthehedgehog3113  i don't want innocent people being executed.
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  14174.  @shadowthehedgehog3113  i would pay them minimum wage.
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  14175. Can't enforce this.
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  14176.  @zanvoy6848  the pay is pathetic.
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  14177. Exactly
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  14178. Because the government wants to force poor college students into minimum wage jobs
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  14179. I'm not sexist..i am incel because after 6 years of using countless dating apps and sites I'm still a kissless virgin.
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  14180. Circular logic, isn't it?
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  14181. I didn't know that
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  14182.  @MichaelFlynn0  you're right.. Complaining hasn't helped me.
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  14183. I KNOW I'M THE PROBLEM
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  14184. Corporations want open borders for cheap labor
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  14185. Open borders provide cheap labor for corporations
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  14186.  @mikeellis2025  my replies are gone
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  14187.  @mikeellis2025  the problem is corporations wanting cheap labor, not immigrants.
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  14188. No minimum wage anywhere grants a decent life.
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  14189.  @thecarptain  true.
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  14190.  @thecarptain  my point is the solution is so simple....raise wages...but somehow it's like I'm asking for America to make pigs fly.
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  14191. Of course. There are far more poor people than rich people.
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  14192. it means i'm not a man.
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  14193.  @milleniumadam8643  my comments keep getting deleted. Did you read it?
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  14194. Gotta keep dumb people guessing.
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  14195. Yep
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  14196. It's called survivorship bias.
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  14197. Welfare reform implies poor women don't have a right to bear children. Trump wants poor people to not have children.
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  14198. Correct.
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  14199. When it favors employers.
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  14200.  @DR-hy6is  I'm sad. I can't pay for college working minimum wage. Fox news tells me I'm a failure if i get no degree and work minimum wage. But I'm also a failure if i pursue a degree to get a middle class job. By the way, even with a degree there's no guarantee of a high-paying job.
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  14201.  @DR-hy6is  that's messed up. I bet if 50% of that corporate bailout money or even 5% helped me(or some other poor person) get an education they'd call me a lazy free loader.
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  14202.  @DR-hy6is  would you be fine if the poor could afford a home, car, college, etc.?
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  14203.  @DR-hy6is  sick.
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  14204. ​@colleenpeck6347 that's heartbreaking.
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  14205. Helping the poor
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  14206. ​ @eloybox conservatives tend to oppose social insurance
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  14207. You can't get money out of politics.
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  14208.  @amymegginson-uz7jj  okay cool
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  14209.  @amymegginson-uz7jj  okay
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  14210.  @amymegginson-uz7jj  my replies are gone again
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  14211. Ok
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  14212. That's messed up.
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  14213. Because what you're not realizing is that worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  14214. ​ @romesrepublic exactly
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  14215. It can mandate a high wage that's far above a living wage. Or mandate the city or state with the highest living wage across the country.
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  14216. ​ @simplelife88393 ok cool
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  14217. ​ @RextheRebel yep
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  14218. Beautiful.
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  14219. Ok
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  14220. No
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  14221. Yep
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  14222. Correct.
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  14223. Because poverty is a policy choice.
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  14224.  @frevazz3364  i know. college tuition used to be 100x minimum wage in the 70s. Now it's more like 1600-2000x the minimum wage.
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  14225.  @e1v1a19  moving the goal post.
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  14226.  @e1v1a19  yeah...that is the Problem. That people don't share the same principles.
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  14227.  @e1v1a19  trying to make a life better for yourself isn't something that should be ashamed of
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  14228. Peter's problem is he doesn't want minimum-wage workers receiving profit sharing. If minimum wage earners received a fair share of profits based on what they helped create you guys would have to be paid around $100,000 a year. If we lived in a profit-sharing based economy he would be arguing for minimum wage because unskilled workers would be making too much.
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  14229.  @jessinator666  the owners make nothing without entry level workers.
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  14230.  @jessinator666  yeah there's no silver bullet, economics isn't easy. I do think profit sharing would be a start towards reducing inequality. Although I'd be lying if i said i knew 100% of its effects.
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  14231.  @jessinator666  which part do you agree with?
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  14232.  @jessinator666  so do you disagree with me that the minimum wage workers deserve to be paid more? And you're admitting the government is needed to adjust labor prices since most workers, but especially minimum wage ones, can't negotiate for higher pay.
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  14233.  @jessinator666  sweden has stronger unions, less income inequality, a greater social safety, better worker protections, and affordable college and healthcare.
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  14234.  @jessinator666  yep. Although my original point was that these workers could make far more
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  14235.  @jessinator666  wow. I guess the bigger problem is the entire existence of low-wage Labor
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  14236.  @jessinator666  is this in America or another country
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  14237.  @jessinator666  yes, so now that you've mentioned that I think the keys to ending poverty are affordable college and a federal job training program, stronger workers rights and protections, higher wages and/or lower cost of living, and a robust social safety-net when people fall on Hard Times.
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  14238.  @jessinator666  I don't know anything about the medical field in other countries but in the United States did you know that there is a cartel on the number of Medical Specialties or programs or something that you can get into, so the supply of doctors is kept low.
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  14239.  @jessinator666  that helps too. But there are actually 3 reasons why healthcare is generally cheaper in Europe. 1. Healthcare providers cannot refuse insurance to anyone who asks, even if they cannot pay. 2. All insurance programs must provide as extensive coverage as possible. 3. The same prices must be offered to all patients.
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  14240.  @jessinator666  yep. Usa healthcare is way too complex lol. In my state, medicaid expansion(health care for the poor) was denied by state legislature, so anyone 25 or older with no kids or disabilities cannot receive healthcare.
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  14241. Because conservatives and capitalists attach value to people based on whether or not they work. Their idea is 1. If you're unwilling to work 2. If you're not capable of working 3. If you need welfare or charity in order to survive Then you are worthless and deserve poverty
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  14242. Yes
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  14243.  @daliguj221  inflation is an acceptable risk
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  14244. When did cashiers become worse than rapists?
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  14245. Exactly.
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  14246. Yep. Wow.
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  14247. Sounds like you're arguing for Medicare for all. Fallacy of relative privation.
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  14248. Ok
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  14249. It's called survorship bias.
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  14250. Hi. I remember you talked about how you lost your food stamps due to work requirements ​ @freden9234 
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  14251. Poor people can't change anything
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  14252. Wow
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  14253. Yep.
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  14254. Crime is a policy choice.
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  14255. Correct.
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  14256. Wow.
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  14257. Inflation is an acceptable risk. What you're saying is you prioritize avoiding the risk of inflation than helping workers have a living wage
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  14258.  @chrisglosser7318  I understand what your point is from the economic standpoint. I'm speaking from the ideology standpoint. Risk and Context define politics. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. This is because A. Priorities are not created equal. And that is because B. We are neither capable nor willing to help everyone Many minimum wage critics say that it would be magnifying inflation, automation, unemployment, the deficit, etc. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is worker solidarity, not poverty, that is the risk we find unacceptable.
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  14259.  @chrisglosser7318  Okay then.
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  14260.  @chrisglosser7318  my replies are gone, but I understand.
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  14261.  @chrisglosser7318  do I seem delusional?(How did I argue)
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  14262.  @chrisglosser7318  my reply was deleted again. Screw it.
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  14263. Yep.
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  14264. It proves poverty is a policy choice.
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  14265. Nice! I hope you succeed!
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  14266. You should know that magnetic fields can't produce the right plasma pressures for long, and lasers require too much power and produce too much waste to be practical: for fusion propulsion. Antimatter rockets: You'd have to violate conservation of baryon number, lepton number, and electric charge, spin, etc. to be able to flip matter into antimatter. Or access a neutron star or black hole to produce antimatter in large amounts(plasma jets in x-ray binaries).
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  14267. You need to store electrically neutral antimatter and use magnetic fields to affect antimatter's spin to contain it.
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  14268.  @TCBYEAHCUZ  Nope.
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  14269.  @TCBYEAHCUZ  i just googled it. I'll have to do far more research but IIRC superconductors require near absolute zero temperatures to operate and are under enormous stress. Even without those limitations or any others, there is a limit to how much electric charge can be practically contained.
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  14270.  @TCBYEAHCUZ  badass. Makes me love engineering stuff even more.
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  14271.  @TCBYEAHCUZ  nice. Hopefully we'll get fusion power one day.
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  14272. Conservatives want poverty
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  14273. Then demand corporations stop paying millions of people poverty wages.
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  14274. Not how insurance works either.
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  14275. Nope
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  14276. You are correct. This story is survivorship bias.
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  14277. Yep
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  14278. Family plan failed because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  14279.  @dominicfucinari1942  it's called just-world fallacy.
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  14280. Why doesn't the government mandate benefits given to employees regardless of hours worked?
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  14281. Yep
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  14282. ​ @jgdooley2003 means testing exists to try and force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  14283. You're correct
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  14284. exactly.
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  14285. it's called the myth of meritocracy.
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  14286. Because it helps the poor and conservatives don't want to do that.
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  14287. Correct
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  14288. It isn't about the costs, but the benefits
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  14289. The American economy runs on poverty, or at least the constant threat of it. Americans like their goods cheap and their services plentiful and the two of them, together, require a sprawling labor force willing to work tough jobs at crummy wages. On the right, the barest glimmer of worker power is treated as a policy emergency, and the whip of poverty, not the lure of higher wages, is the appropriate response.
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  14290. And think about the minimum wage. It's more expensive to pay someone $7.25/hr, fund welfare to make up the difference, than to pay a living wage in the first place.
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  14291. It isn't about money. It's about values. Politicians treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  14292.  @dayasingh799  what?
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  14293. Exactly
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  14294. I'm an American who couldn't take care of my sick mom because Medicaid was too complicated
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  14295. Wow
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  14296. News will never be told by poor people.
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  14297. My comments keep getting deleted ​ @nicholasatkinson4573 
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  14298. ​ @nicholasatkinson4573  1. Nobody works minimum wage jobs if everyone has wealth or skills. So yes, poverty forces poor people to accept jobs that no billionaire or doctor would accept. 2. Just because there have to be cashiers doesn't mean they deserve poverty. That's literally what this minimum wage debate is about.
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  14299. ​ @nicholasatkinson4573 minimum wage jobs don't lead to anything. They are dead end by definition.
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  14300. ​ @nicholasatkinson4573 not everyone can afford college or trade school, not everyone can have stable employment, not everyone can work, Stop blaming the poor and blame greedy corporations
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  14301. Workers have too little bargaining power
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  14302. lol im younger but still failing
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  14303. A GMI would end poverty. But would give workers too much bargaining power.
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  14304. @Attack_is_the_Best_Defense  that's exactly what I'm referencing. Employers couldn't offer crappy benefits anymore. Poor people will not work for slave wages if they have government benefits, this is the REAL reason usa has never implemented a GMI/robust social programs. If I made even $10k/year from a GMI(which wouldn't be enough to cover healthcare, but still) I would NEVER work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement. Nor would anyone else.
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  14305.  @R4t_P4ck  EXACTLY. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. Politicians will NEVER implement a GMI because you couldn't force ANYONE to work shitty minimum wage jobs anymore.
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  14306.  @R4t_P4ck  yes. But do you agree with me? The real political problem with a GMI isn't the costs, but the benefits.
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  14307.  @R4t_P4ck  from Ezra Klein "What the rich don't want to admit about the poor."; Most Americans don’t think of themselves as benefiting from the poverty of others, and I don’t think objections to a guaranteed income would manifest as arguments in favor of impoverishment. Instead, we would see much of what we’re seeing now, only magnified: Fears of inflation, lectures about how the government is subsidizing indolence, paeans to the character-building qualities of low-wage labor, worries that the economy will be strangled by taxes or deficits, anger that Uber and Lyft rides have gotten more expensive, sympathy for the struggling employers who can’t fill open roles rather than for the workers who had good reason not to take those jobs. These would reflect not America’s love of poverty but opposition to the inconveniences that would accompany its elimination. Nor would these costs be merely imagined. Inflation would be a real risk, as prices often rise when wages rise, and some small businesses would shutter if they had to pay their workers more. There are services many of us enjoy now that would become rarer or costlier if workers had more bargaining power. We’d see more investments in automation and possibly in outsourcing. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that we treat as intolerable. You can see it happening right now, driven by policies far smaller and with effects far more modest than a guaranteed income.
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  14308. So I'm horrible?
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  14309.  @Epoch11  one person working and paying for all that?? Now you'd need $450,000.
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  14310. $2 trillion in tax cuts could have eradicated poverty
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  14311. He'd raise it to $40/hr.
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  14312. I know. It's mind boggling
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  14313.  @JacobAnawalt  separate than free college. K-12 is funded through property taxes. College is not.
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  14314. ​ @rickstevenson9585 everyone cannot do what you are suggesting.
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  14315.  @AlexR_44  oh okay
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  14316. Ok
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  14317. Because they don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
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  14318.  @chachaguillotine187  I agree!
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  14319. ​@miyepkey-wl2jt
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  14320.  @Kat-qr7hv  that makes me cry.
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  14321. When i worked at McDonald's the store made $8000 during the weekday morning shift and on weekends $10,000 an hour.
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  14322. Lol you heard that too?
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  14323. Wrong. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  14324. No
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  14325. Housing is not priced for minimum wage workers. The increase in home prices has nothing to do with the minimum wage.
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  14326. ​ @donel532  yes.
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  14327. Exactly
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  14328. How?
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  14329. College students used to pay 1%-5% of the cost of tuition like gutfeld. Now it's 95%.
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  14330. He's lying about two things 1. Many conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty 2. Corporations support illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay. 3. Capitalism runs on poverty. If poverty didn't exist, workers would reject slave wages and dead-end jobs. Gotta maintain poverty, homelessness, and unemployment to keep workers in line.
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  14331. Ha!
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  14332. Make that an amendment.
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  14333.  @MichaelDerryGameitect  I'd pay congressman minimum wage and ban them from lobbying and stocks/investments in stock market. I'd make them homeless until not only homelessness was wiped out but every current home owner had a paid off house.
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  14334.  @Rowsy91  ? Skill alone doesn't determine productivity. Skill or no skill, these workers help produce billions in sales year after year after year.
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  14335.  @Rowsy91  You need no college degree, no high school degree, no previous political or business experience to become a politician, this includes becoming POTUS.
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  14336.  @Rowsy91  If people were paid according to the sales they helped produce and not according to "skill" the wages in his country would be a lot higher than 7.25. Chic Fil A would have to pay its cashiers around $100,000.
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  14337.  @Rowsy91  it doesn't matter that anybody can do it. Without those jobs, without those very people, Jeff Bezos or the other CEOs make nothing. You do realize that business is a two-way street? Employees make nothing without employers but at the same time employers make nothing without employees.
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  14338.  @Rowsy91  and again skill alone doesn't determine wages. Some of the richest people in the world are wealthy due to factors that have nothing to do with skill. Intellectual property, which is both a monopoly and a welfare check, has made Bill Gates one of the richest people in all of human history. There are many, many billionaire individuals and companies which enrich themselves by creating Monopolies or oligopolies. If you severely limited the number of Acquisitions and mergers enough, this alone would have dismantled most corporations overnight. So yes we would still have corporations, but they wouldn't be anywhere near as profitable or powerful as they are today, and by extension their shareholders.
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  14339.  @Rowsy91  Products have to be made by workers, therefore the products themselves are worth nothing unless someone makes them. Computers made by Microsoft are worth nothing if there are no software developers or engineers to make them. This goes for any product, again, regardless of skill. So all the marketing in the world for Chick-fil-A means nothing if there are no workers to make the products.
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  14340.  @kaomatic  this guy acts like it requires a prodigious level of intellect to be on Congress. You do realize that technically you do not even need any college degree at all to even be president of the United States.
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  14341.  @Rowsy91  it's a silly way to determine the worth of a job by how much sales they helped produce? Because that's why CEOs get paid so much, not because they are skilled. With stock options / private-equity these people can amass a far greater Fortune than if they had remained salaried workers of their respective companies.
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  14342. Doesn't change the nature of this debate: people want poverty
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  14343. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  14344. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  14345. Conservative politicians lack empathy. They do not and can not relate to the poor. They believe parents are bad for being poor. That helping the poor is rewarding failure. It's not the state's job to help failures.
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  14346. Yep.
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  14347.  @1Letter23Numbers.  funny people who aren't poor and disdain the poor get to decide how to treat poor people.
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  14348. Because politicians believe minimum wage workers such as myself deserve poverty. It isn't about economics, it's about ideology. Doctors making $900,000/year is fine. Cashiers making $9/hr are rapists.
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  14349.  @Sully0020  that's moving the goal post.
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  14350.  @julesdalli9716  won't work. Politicians treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  14351. In theory? Yes. You need to manipulate powerful attractive and repulsive gravitational fields. Because gravity is too weak, this undoubtedly requires massive warping of space-time. But space-time curvature is caused by the presence of mass-energy, and you need Planet-scale quantities of mass energy to create the space-time curvature needed for wormholes.
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  14352. Except conservatives want poverty to exist to ensure minimum wage jobs are filled
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  14353. Because working harder as a cashier doesn't translate into more money per hour.
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  14354. Me too.
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  14355. I'll follow these steps.
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  14356. Ok
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  14357. ​ @patrickahaus6570 welfare
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  14358. Inflation is a real risk.
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  14359. those people can't afford to keep up the construction costs and home prices, only big banks, corporations, and the billionaires.
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  14360. Yep.
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  14361. Republicans hate welfare because 1. They oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  14362. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  14363.  @sqlb3rn  that's messed up.
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  14364. He knows they haven't.
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  14365. I'm a virgin at 29 now. I'm still poor
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  14366. Wow
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  14367. Except that's the problem: the government grant pays more than work. If work paid more than the grant, people would return to work.
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  14368. My theory why we don't have a living wage is because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. if doctors were demanding to make $15 an hour Congress would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status.
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  14369. Because you don't understand something: The American economy runs on poverty. If poverty didn't exist, workers would have solidarity and could reject dead-end job offers. Noone would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
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  14370. Profit sharing
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  14371. Politicians prefer poverty over worker solidarity.
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  14372.  @hahano9586  you're right. I'll do better.
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  14373.  @hahano9586  you were being honest. I needed to hear that. I need to grow up and realize I'm entitled to sex or affection.
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  14374. ​ @marvinfrederick6363  yep.
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  14375. Yes
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  14376.  @paulakumpf3440  that's messed up.
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  14377.  @paulakumpf3440  isn't that circular logic? Provide financial assistance to people who don't make enough money to live but don't support a living wage?
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  14378. LOL.
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  14379. Only rich people can do it. I'm poor and can't afford to run for office.
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  14380. Exactly
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  14381.  @addisondoty4231  7.25 an hour for restaurants does not affect doctors, lawyers, or engineers.
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  14382.  @bobbilly87  the MW employees literally are most of the workforce at any fast food or retail place. With just managers or ""worthy" people no store could possibly function.
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  14383.  @bobbilly87  but you're admitting individually no worker makes anywhere near what they produce, nor can they negotiate to do so.(MW ones)
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  14384.  @bobbilly87  I'm not acting like they ask for $1 million per hour, but $7 more? And that's too much? I don't think so...
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  14385.  @bobbilly87  both the CEO and MW workers contribute. The CEO makes nothing without the MW workers, and vice versa. That doesn't matter since CEOs negotiate for far more than enough money. $129 billion Wal-Mart profit is far larger than the $22,000 a year a MW WalMart worker receives. Even $129 million would dwarf a Wal-Mart worker's pay.
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  14386.  @bobbilly87  if that's what they can be paid under higher profit sharing then i see no problem with it. Even if prices have to increase somehow by $5, it's still worth it.
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  14387.  @bobbilly87  i thought i already stated I'm fine with CEOs making more than their employees? So a CEO making more than a fry cook is fine by me because I'm not a communist. How much money is enough for MW workers? Idk. There's no objective way to measure it. I could say since they're 90% of workforce they receive 90% of the profits. Or i could say they receive same percentage of stocks/other options as the CEO. or i could propose a flat rate of 30% revenue. Idk yet.
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  14388.  @bobbilly87  because they contribute to it. It's about equivalent exchange and consent. These workers give billions to their owners, but receive nothing in return. I don't know how else to frame this. If Microsoft, Apple, or McDonald's make $20 billion a year each, then that is $20 billion. Am i saying Microsoft software engineers and McDonald's fry cooks make the same? No. But $20 billion is such a huge number not a single worker should be making $7.25 an hour. Walmart not only made $129 billion in profits, but did so with far fewer workers due to covid. So LESS workers produced MORE profits. Logically these people should've basically won the lottery, but instead they received little to no extra compensation. How would you feel if the same thing applied to Skilled workers? How would you feel if a CEO had to make the same amount of money no matter how much money they help make their company? How would you feel if doctors could not make above a certain amount of money no matter how much work they did?
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  14389.  @bobbilly87  because skill and productivity are not the same.
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  14390.  @bobbilly87  nothing changes the vast availability of low-skilled Labor. The whole point of minimum-wage laws is to provide higher wages for workers who can't negotiate for the pay they want themselves
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  14391.  @bobbilly87  i wish replies could show comment I replied to. Management can make as many decisions as they want, but there is no way they can do all of the work themselves. So yes MW workers are entitled to more profits. The store manager or other managers do have more responsibility, but they are not Doing all the work themselves.
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  14392.  @BiggsWaGwan  ok
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  14393.  @ameunier41  I've said this 1,000 times and I'll keep saying it: skill and productivity are not the same. Obviously brain surgery requires more skill than bagging groceries but that doesn't change the fact both are workers providing lots of money via the work they do. Wal-Mart alone makes over $500 billion per year. Amazon makes over $100 billion as well. Collectively, all the industries/companies employing lots of low wage workers(between 7.25-15) are worth over $1 trillion. So no, MW jobs aren't "worthless."
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  14394.  @ameunier41  workers are paid based on what they can negotiate, not what they are worth. And skill alone doesn't determine the "right" price of any job. Bill Gates, in a way, is just as skilled as a waiter, the only reason he makes far more is because of government welfare. If there were no intellectual property laws allowing him to profit off of microsoft software, then people could buy a computer(hardware) and make/modify/distribute any Microsoft software they want for free. Gates would lose his vast fortune.
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  14395.  @governoret  You are admitting that without IP laws Gates would not have amassed a huge fortune, his skill was not as important as the government providing him with IP protection. And the bigger point was that software is not scarce, hence why many software programs are offered for free. Since software is so easy to download and distribute, Gates could not have made his fortune had he not relied on artificial scarcity. Gates relied on IP laws, and also corporate finance laws, market concentrations, and technological innovations to amass his wealth. Yes, he put in alot of effort, but the reward he got in return was not decided by him. "If you don't like your job, quit and start a new one or business?" Over half of Americans are living in poverty, these people are not free to simply quit any job because they dislike it, much less start a corporation as well.
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  14396.  @governoret  you're admitting government intervention creates wealth even more so than any particular skillset, which is my main point. The software I'm using is IP protected, so read above. And i meant software currently isn't scarce, that's why not only are there IP laws but much stronger ones than the ones decades ago.
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  14397.  @governoret  learning at a library is not the same as a college degree or jobs training program, that is, acceptable for employers. College cannot be paid for out pocket by anyone except millionaires and billionaires, and that's including community colleges, and that's not even counting other costs like books or transportation. Even many skilled workers deal with monopsony power and lack of job protections.
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  14398.  @ameunier41  Prime example: Microsoft made $143 billion last year and Walmart made $559 billion. It is illogical and immoral that workers at walmart somehow make far less than the workers at Microsoft. Walmart makes several times more MS and yet most of its workforce is eligible for food stamps. You would think these MW workers would be making $40 an hour to start(even that is generous), not a measley $11.
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  14399.  @governoret  stop moving goalposts about Microsoft.
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  14400.  @user-nb5uw5ui9i  many forces go into productivity besides skill.
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  14401.  @justinwatson2934  stepping stones? Stop trying to justify slavery.
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  14402.  @MrDosOffical  they are both equally needed.
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  14403.  @jakewarner1993  exactly. All workers do.
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  14404.  @KHan-od2sy  That's assuming there's no increased demand, which I think there would be since millions of people that would get a massive pay raise. Labor costs are not the highest operating cost in retail/food service, they're just the one cost employers can control, so they make the cost as low as possible. This means profiting off of low wage labor. If employees received a fair share of profits McDonald's workers would make around $100,000 a year.
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  14405.  @KHan-od2sy  Demand from people making more money. If you make 7.25 an hour, a meal at the very place you work costs more than what you make per hour. Nothing, not food or housing, is priced for MW workers. If the MW workers and many more working poor(those who make above a minimum wage but below a living wage) got a gigantic wage boost, they'd spend most of it, stimulating the economy. A "free" market is anything but. The employee is one or two paychecks away from homelessness, on top of being unskilled. The employer has billions of dollars, a virtually unlimited supply of labor, and no financial loss from losing any individual MW worker. Thus, the employee is in no position to demand anything.
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  14406.  @KHan-od2sy  People are paid by what they can negotiate, not by what their job is worth.
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  14407.  @KHan-od2sy  I messed up and meant Chic Fil A. $4.5 million annually(roughly) per store. Half of that divided between 25-30 employees is roughly $90,000. That's close to $100k per year and way above any MW anywhere in the country.
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  14408.  @KHan-od2sy  No we simply disagree. Supply and demand of workers doesn't determine their financial worth.
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  14409.  @KHan-od2sy  I already mentioned there are millions who make above 7.25 but below 15, that larger group is mostly adults.
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  14410.  @KHan-od2sy  Those jobs lost are 2nd jobs people don't need to work. Inflation will not happen because MW workers get a little bit more money, again things aren't priced for them anyway. Inflation has been happening for years yet MW has changed since the 1980s.
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  14411.  @KHan-od2sy  No. It is wrong to expect people to suffer at a low paying job, "earn" money at a "worthy" job, and then succeed financially. These are people, not cattle.
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  14412.  @KHan-od2sy  A cashier is in no position to demand anything. If the cashier asks for a penny more than what the employer offers the employer is free to reject the other person. Cashiers are easily replaceable and do not incur massive costs to the company, hence why, even with over 100% turnover rate, Fast food chains never collapse.
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  14413.  @KHan-od2sy  So yes, employers have more power than employees.
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  14414.  @KHan-od2sy  I've said already things other than skill determine wages.
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  14415.  @dazzybotha6564  That is what the employer wants yes, but not what the employee wants. It's a relationship between the two but their core desires are opposed.
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  14416.  @UnvokeUnit  and also being lucky. Which is why most billionaires are successful.
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  14417. Politicians want poverty.
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  14418. Exactly.
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  14419. I was forced onto Medicaid in NC after Medicaid expanded.
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  14420. That's crazy
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  14421. The ideology is important too: many people think poor people don't deserve healthcare
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  14422. That's the exact reason republicans hate welfare. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  14423. Most Poor people already have a job.
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  14424. And such restrictions and expectations aren't made for rich people.
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  14425. Why are my replies gone?
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  14426. It's about priorities.
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  14427. @WilliamBrowning  My point is, poverty can be eliminated. It's about the fact that it isn't a priority for most politicians.
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  14428.  @ALL_CAPS__  " flipping burgers" i didn't know cashiers were rapists in USA?
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  14429. I do need to work on myself.
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  14430. They wouldn't. That was Sam's point.
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  14431. ​ @All-due-respect-I-disagree LOL.
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  14432.  @angie99656  right.
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  14433.  @robertthode2151  correct.
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  14434.  @rdelrosso2001  it'd be $61.08/hr today.
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  14435.  @TheyRiseBand  lol what is "entry-level" anyway?
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  14436. The two are the same.
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  14437. Rofl. I know
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  14438. ​ @vivaelgato4541 so he isn't receiving $9 million? This story is misleading.
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  14439. ​ @dadbodenvy4247 ignore him.
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  14440. because poor people will refuse to work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  14441. I think he meant to say the 19th amendment.
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  14442.  @brahimdiop5506  oh ok
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  14443. Exactly
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  14444. Then screw corporations.
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  14445.  @teraxiel  places like chic fil a make enough profits to pay their cashiers around $100,000/yr. As does Walmart.
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  14446.  @teraxiel  their profit margins are based on paying employees by skill not profitability, the the entire corporate pay structure would have to be restuctured to pay workers 100k.
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  14447.  @teraxiel  in terms of Walmart and other grocery store chains. Their "low" profit margins are not based on employees wages but consumers demanding low wages, the government subsidizing grocery store supply chain industries and SNAP benefits.
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  14448.  @teraxiel  each store grosses about $5.4 million in sales with profit margins of 15-20%>
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  14449. Workers are paid by skill not profitability. Even if Walmart made a Google Plex dollars in profit every Planck second, their cashiers would still be paid dirt low wages.
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  14450.  @teraxiel  ok we'll just have to disagree. But you're making my point that workers are paid by skill. If Walmart literally made $10 trillion in profits per nanosecond, its cashiers would still be paid the crazy low $11/hr they make now. Corporations create their pay and job structure around this. Either you(generally) require more education or more responsibility to get paid more, that's it.
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  14451.  @teraxiel  Walmart pays low wages because it can get away with it. Regardless of what market pressures it faces, poverty is a policy choice, not a law of nature like gravity.
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  14452.  @teraxiel  I want there to be a balance between skill and profitability. I.e. I'm fine with ceo making more than a cashier but if said company makes billions in profits then it's wrong to pay their cashiers $9/hr. They both contribute to the company's profits. I think it's wrong for the cashier to make $9/hr forever(even working 30 years)but the CEO gets endless performance-based bonuses.
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  14453.  @teraxiel  at the cashier job I work(part-time) I make $10/hr... That literally doesn't even afford the gas to/from work. I'm not upset that the company CEO makes more than me. I'm not upset that doctors make more me. I'm not even upset that billionaires exist. I think it's messed up I'm expected to be paid literal pennies...literal pocket change.....in exchange for helping the company. How is it fair for me to help the company survive but I'm left in the cold? Maybe I'm speaking from emotions but I don't understand why people only enjoy rich people making lots of money but when poor people make even a penny more the world is going to end.
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  14454.  @teraxiel  poverty is a policy decision, it is made collectively by society just like giving women the right to vote. Just we don't tolerate women not voting(not having the right to vote) we do not have to tolerate poverty.
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  14455.  @teraxiel  if it the job is expected to exist then why not pay the worker enough to live? Like I said before, I'm not upset at a doctor making more than me but I feel bad if I'm expected to work but make so little I can't afford to eat. Also part of the problem is that these jobs have been dumbed down, employers removed the skill out of them. Creating the worst viewed job of society. Now a "burger flipper" is a synonym for "rapist." I'm saying that CEOs get performance based bonuses(company does well, CEO gets better pay) but the cashiers receive no bonus of the sort. So if Walmart makes billions in profits it enriches its shareholders but pays their cashiers the same low wage.
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  14456.  @teraxiel  I don't believe for one second a CEO alone contributes that much to the success of a company alone(without the help of many other workers and other things like maybe the company is a monopoly or using strong parents to limit competition). I don't believe it's fair for all employees to contribute to a company's success but lower level employees get nothing.
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  14457.  @teraxiel  lol because poverty can be eliminated just as quickly. They are both policy decisions.  yes...you can pass a law outlawing poverty... Yes even an amendment.
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  14458.  @teraxiel  because nations, particularly America do not believe in ending poverty. They see it as no big deal.
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  14459.  @teraxiel  follow me here: all poverty is is having a shortage of resources relative to needs. How do you measure resources and how do you measure needs? If you can measure resources and you can measure needs then you can measure poverty. I'll give you an analogy. Imagine you are arguing with me saying that you can't figure out the density of something. Density is mass divided by volume. How do you measure mass and how do you measure volume? if you can measure mass and you can measure volume then you can measure density. And we can ensure primarily through wages that no worker is in poverty. It's literally that easy. If a poverty wage for a 1 person is $19.25...then he/she must make at least $19.25. If for a family of four(let's say 3 kids and one parent) is $51....then the parent must make at least $51. Follow me? Of course higher wages would be a start.
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  14460.  @teraxiel  I've watched Milton Friedman and Thomas Powell. anyway... Like I said earlier it can't be crazy high $1000/hr but it also can't be 0 per hour. There's a balance. Obviously a cashier isn't gonna make $900k a year but they do not have to make $12k a year either. Market pressures cannot be destroyed, you are correct, but they can be managed. Just look at over time pay, anti discrimination laws, 40 hour work week, paid sick leave, etc . These are all government regulations that created market pressures but the market adapted to it. America wasn't destroyed. And even if mandating a living wage does destroy the economy and we have to restructure it...then so be it. We have the capacity to change society that much because we did for women's suffrage. We have a female vice president, it's fair to say America can cause alot of change, both in the economy, and beyond.
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  14461.  @teraxiel  you act like the market is an entity that cannot be changed. I do not understand you. The price of everything has been going up anyway. Nothing is priced for people making minimum wage. I'm fine with destroying the economy if it means society eradicates poverty. And the minimum wage has remained stagnant while inflation has skyrocketed. Even 30/hr minimum wage is not enough to keep up with education inflation alone (high tuition).
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  14462.  @teraxiel  enough to live. Enough to not be in poverty. Enough to be middle class. I believe if you're working 40 hours a week, you shouldn't be poor. There is no reason to working and not being able to survive. Then you might as well not work. I don't believe the biggest labor issue is the inability to find a job. Most Americans are willing to work. I believe the biggest labor issue is the inability to support yourself from said job. If you can't support yourself from the wages earned from working a full-time job then what's the point in having one? Would you become a teacher if you knew all of the students you'd teach would fail your class anyway? Why teach if it leads nowhere? Or imagine completing a gun training class only for at the end you still don't know how to use a gun but you're still expected to have one anyway. If you don't know how to use gun with training as well as without it, what's the point in getting training?
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  14463.  @teraxiel  yes.
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  14464.  @teraxiel  no.
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  14465.  @teraxiel  are you opposing this on moral grounds or economic grounds
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  14466.  @teraxiel  first off additional regulations can be made to force businesses to not do massive layoffs. Second off, price increases have nothing to do with minimum wage. College tuition and pharmacy drugs are not high because of where the minimum wage is. Third off, a maximum wage (or wage multiplier) could be introduced to limit income inequality (aka limit upper wage earners from demanding 800k in response to a minimum of 100k). I.e. c level jobs cannot be paid more 6x their lowest level jobs.
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  14467.  @teraxiel  also you're assuming there will be no increased demand from low wage workers making that much more money. With enough demand, almost any obstacle can be overcome.
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  14468.  @teraxiel  Do you believe there should be an amendment about ending poverty?
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  14469.  @teraxiel  it is possible. You're just not willing to deal with the costs of ending poverty. The difference is poverty is a policy choice, unicorns are not.
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  14470.  @teraxiel  poverty is a shortage of resources relative to needs. How do you measure resources and how do you measure needs? If you can measure resources and you can measure needs then you can measure poverty. I don't understand what you are not getting. You're acting poverty is nebulous.
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  14471.  @teraxiel  the multiplier is a policy choice as well. Again, it's about the costs we're willing to pay. If we truly thought ending poverty was important we'd pay the costs.
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  14472.  @teraxiel  it would take only 2% of GDP to end poverty. Our GDP is over $20 trillion. That is far beyond the cost of anything I can think of it's almost unfathomable. Medical debt isn't that huge. College debt isn't that huge. Auto loan debt isn't that huge. The cost of free college isn't that huge. Giving every American family $10k to $15k for a used car wouldn't equal $20 trillion. There literally is enough wealth) resources to wipe out poverty.
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  14473.  @teraxiel  poverty is a shortage of resources relative to needs. If you measure resources and you can measure needs then you can measure poverty. I simply do not understand why you think it isn't a policy choice to allow people to make so little they qualify for welfare like Medicaid. Ancedotal but I'm in poverty as a cashier. Can you afford a home making $10/hr? Certainly not even an apartment can be afforded making that. On one hand, the government provides aid to people like myself (food stamps. Etc) because I don't make enough money to live but also doesn't support a living wage. It's circular logic.
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  14474.  @teraxiel  I'm aware that's not the revenue(GDP). You ignored what I said about the cashier part. On one hand, the minimum wage is 7.25 but at the same time, welfare exists. So the government provides financial assistance to people who otherwise cannot afford to live but at the same time refuses to pay a living wage: both the minimum wage and any and all forms of low income assistance are policy choices yes. The level of income inequality in a society Is a policy choice too. None of the items I've listed are huge compared to what's been handed out in the form of tax cuts to the rich, corporate subsidies, or bank bailouts.
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  14475.  @teraxiel  the country/usa manages resources. Albeit on a large and complicated scale, but it does nonetheless. We allow people to make 7.25/hr. Or 15k/year. Politicians know damn well you cannot support a family off of that. Or even transportation. So the government criticizes people for wanting to survive off of minimum wage but at the same time has to provide the same survival to those workers anyway. Do you not see the problem? Either work a job that obviates the need for government assistance or eradicate the job from existence. If you can't survive working a job without assistance, then what's the point in having one? The reason I am confused is because everything I've listed can be legislated, it is about whether or not we wish to accept the changes which accompany the legislation. If raising the minimum wage to $15/he ends 900k jobs then so be it. If having a wage multiplier limits relative income growth so be it. If forgiving student loans or providing for tuition-free public schools requires higher taxes and)or cutting spending so be it. You're admitting we can do everything I've mentioned but you are unwilling to because you deem the cost to society too great. The change too severe. Going back to women's suffrage...look at how much we've changed for women. We have a female vice president. So we can make a woman vice president, one of the greatest changes to global society in all of human history but we can't raise the minimum wage, have a wage multiplier, or loan forgiveness? So we can change society alot but at the same we cannot change society alot? Imagine Tom Brady saying completing the 30 yard dash is impossible. My point is that if helping poor people does destroy the economy then either the magnitude of poverty is too high, the structure of the economy is too poor, or both. Just like if giving women the right to vote destroys the foundation of society then something is wrong with the structure of society itself and. Wait. Giving women autonomy DID Change the economy/society severely. So again. Why can we change society for women so easily but not the poor?
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  14476.  @teraxiel  what's wrong with $1,000/hr? If that's what it takes?
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  14477.  @teraxiel  I'm telling you that if the market is unable to sustain non poverty wages, then there is something wrong with the economy.
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  14478.  @teraxiel  I used the minimum wage as an example. One on hand is the 7.25/hr minimum wage and at the same time welfare. Both of which are policy choices since the former deals with the fact unskilled workers have no bargaining power. Letting the market decide ends up with a ridiculous situation: workers don't make enough to live so they turn to welfare but the government won't support a higher minimum wage to obviate the need for welfare. That literally is a policy decision.
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  14479.  @teraxiel  that's what I'm saying. 1k is fine.
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  14480.  @teraxiel  your assumption is incorrect: we do not want everyone to be rich. A neurosurgeon making 900k is fine but a cashier making 32k is a rapist: our country opposes raising the minimum wage NOT because it "costs too much" but because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitled them to earn.
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  14481.  @teraxiel  no...
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  14482.  @teraxiel  do we agree on anything?
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  14483.  @teraxiel  for the same reason it isn't set to even $15 because I do not believe everyone deserves to be that wealthy. My moral code said it's wrong for a janitor to be wealthy. If everyone can be a millionaire easily by being employed in any job, there's no point in becoming a doctor or CEO.
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  14484.  @teraxiel  oh I see. Except 100k is not the same as 100 million. The wage floor is exactly that: a floor. The bare minimum. You'll be allowed to make more in higher skilled jobs but the bare minimum will pay for necessities. And journalists and actors are low skill jobs yet nobody complains about the tens of millions of dollars yearly that each one of them makes. It's hypocrisy. The reason people would be upset over shelf stockers making 100k is because we seem them as undeserving, as worthless. Yet we have no problem with other easily replaceable workers making 1000x that because we deem those workers as valuable. The wage multiplier I mentioned: we would accept an income limit if we thought the consequences were worth it. If a wage limit was in place and it, say, ended all rape, we would support it. If a $15 minimum wage ended rape we wouldn't care about job loss then, we'd have a $15hr minimum wage. You ignored my question about how minimum wage workers need welfare to survive but the government also won't support increasing their pay to obviate the need for welfare. The bottom line is this: politics is not about what we aren't capable of doing what about what we are unwilling to do. It is about the costs we are willing to pay. About the consequences we are willing to take. We are willing to pay whatever costs necessary to help women have autonomy but we are not willing to pay the costs with ending poverty. We can elect a female vice president: one of the most monumental changes and achievements for women in all of human history. but at the same time we are debating over whether to pay people $7 more an hour. So we can have a female VP, change society alot, but we can't increase the minimum wage or have a wage multiplier with the reason being "society can't change a lot?" Imagine Tom Brady complaining about having to complete the hundred yard dash.
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  14485.  @teraxiel  it depends on the reason and yes they would. I just made that point via women. And yes, most jobs pay crazy low wages to begin with.
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  14486. Do you not see what America has done for women? If we can change society to accommodate them then we can change society to accommodate anyone else. Like the poor. Do you not see how it's messed up to pay people 7.25/hr then make up the difference with welfare? What's worse is that welfare costs MORE than a livable minimum wage.
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  14487.  @teraxiel  25/hr is crazy low when tuition is over 50k a year and median home prices are over 450k. Half of Americans make less than 15/hr already.
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  14488.  @teraxiel  why do you ignore everything I say? Do you agree women deserve to vote? Do you not see how much society has changed for women? We don't complain about that change because we believe women deserve autonomy. We complain about helping poor people because we don't really want to help them.
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  14489.  @teraxiel  tuition is over 50k at some places. It averages 10k but that's still higher than minimum wage.
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  14490.  @teraxiel  your story is ancedotal. Otherwise there wouldn't be $2 trillion dollars of student debt
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  14491.  @teraxiel  yes. Women's suffrage is relevant. We don't complain about helping them but we do complain about any policies which help the poor
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  14492.  @teraxiel  you graduated with zero debt? Good for you. Not everyone can do that
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  14493.  @teraxiel  no. I said it's 50k in some places. Which it is. And yes, working part-time at minimum wage doesn't pay enough for college. Housing, transportation, healthcare, tuition have gone up far higher than wages
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  14494.  @teraxiel  poverty is not bound by economics. Income inequality IS but letting people making 7.25/hr is not. Unless you think doctors are poor then it is possible to pay people enough to not need food stamps.
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  14495.  @teraxiel  the government doesn't want to end poverty. That's what you're not understanding
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  14496.  @teraxiel  there's no L. Some colleges charge over 50k.
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  14497.  @teraxiel  my point is doctors are not poor because they are paid enough to not need food stamps or Medicaid. They are paid enough to be able to afford housing. If we know what poverty is(wages) then we know what it is not. It is a simple matter of paying people enough to obviate the need for food stamps or any welfare at all. Enough to afford college. There is a high enough wage that obviates the need for welfare. With doctors being proof. Healthcare. Etc. Without needing welfare from the government.
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  14498.  @teraxiel  hell if I know why the government wants people to be poor, all I know is the government loves poverty. Otherwise it would accept whatever costs accompany ending it. Which...it does not.
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  14499.  @teraxiel  my theory is that the government enjoys poverty because A. Lobbying favors the wealthy B. Politicians believe poverty motivates people to work harder to acquire marketable skills.
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  14500.  @gcoffey223  Irrelevant.
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  14501. That's evil
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  14502. It's okay for capitalists to depend on employees, but not the other way around
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  14503.  @infjintegrityvsnarcissism7295  yes. If only college was $30 per credit hour and everyone made $35/hr minimum wage....
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  14504.  @infjintegrityvsnarcissism7295  correct. Unfortunately politicians are all rich. None of them are poor so they don't feel the pain of millions of struggling Americans.
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  14505.  @infjintegrityvsnarcissism7295  I pay politicians minimum wage and pay real American workers $274,000(politician salary).
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  14506. Politicians know that, they just don't care.
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  14507. It's called just-world fallacy
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  14508. Correct.
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  14509. It's two full-time jobs plus going to college full-time as well.
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  14510. You're right. I'm attending community College. I need to escape poverty and have a license and car before I get laid
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  14511.  @KiefEriksson  you're right! It's about me having a good heart! And trying to be better! Material things don't really matter.
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  14512. ​ @kenp5186 because that's slave labor and those conditions don't apply to everyone. Unskilled workers need leverage
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  14513. ​ @taranullius9221 exactly.
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  14514. ​ @kenp5186 it isn't a mutually beneficial contract because of poverty.
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  14515.  @kenp5186  I can't see my replies. I'm saying no billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage pay. Only the poor and unskilled do. I don't want people to support poverty because they know the wealthy and skilled would never do such undignified and dead-end jobs themselves.
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  14516.  @kenp5186  welfare subsidizes low-wage employers.
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  14517.  @kenp5186  no because employers know such people have to have low wage jobs in order to get welfare in the first place. The goal is to ensure poor people can command higher wages. More specifically, be able to resist being paid poverty wages in the first place.
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  14518.  @kenp5186  a doctor themselves would not be paid $7.25/hour. A neurosurgeon or heart surgeon would not be paid $7-$15/hour. Because they can command higher wages than that due to their skills. Poor and unskilled people are not in a position to do so unless they have collective bargaining. The difference between garage items and minimum wage is one is not based on poverty level, the other is not. All I'm saying is for the federal government to ensure nobody makes poverty wages. So if poverty level is $20k, nobody can make below this. If it's $50k for a family of four, no family of four can make below this.
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  14519.  @kenp5186  skills(not entirely but mostly) determine what wages a person can command. If poverty didn't exist, if welfare was robust for example, people would refuse minimum wage jobs. If a job pays poverty wages, then society suffers as a result. I made $8.50/hour as a cashier at McDonald's. Why? Because the job doesn't give you skills.
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  14520.  @kenp5186  we're arguing worthless semantics. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and people shouldn't expect poor people to be forced to work for poverty wages.
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  14521. That's correct..welfare exists to help the poor. Not needed if noone was poor in the first place.
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  14522.  @gloominousdoom11  it is but politicians and the rich don't want poverty to end.
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  14523.  @gloominousdoom11  yes. Also we don't have equality of speech since only the rich get to speak and get heard.
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  14524.  @gloominousdoom11  There's a senator who claimed $400k a year is middle income. Grassley or Greasley. Idk.
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  14525.  @webman1956  90%? That's disgusting.
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  14526.  @marvalice3455  they already do. It's called being poor.
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  14527. There are no female incels.
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  14528. I'm not capable of finding female incels
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  14529. ​ @jong9379 exactly
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  14530.  @AGuyJustDriving  no
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  14531. ​ @tiger1044 exactly
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  14532. Why do they that?
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  14533. Wow
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  14534. QFT.
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  14535. Politicians believe unskilled workers don't deserve decent pay.
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  14536.  @summerbuddhist  it's derogatory. People look at cashiers as rapists.
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  14537. It isn't broken. It's designed to perpetuate poverty to maintain control.
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  14538. YOU LAUGHED TOO RIGHT?!
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  14539.  @MustyBastard  that's....sad to hear...
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  14540. I figured this. Keep poor people out of college, to force them into dead end jobs.
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  14541. Community college is $10,000/year Four year university is $20,000/year Private avg is $40k Duke is $60k
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  14542. Very logical answer unfortunately you fail to understand why conservatives really hate a living wage minimum wage. Their moral code says it's unethical to pay minimum wage workers more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  14543. Why does our government ignore the suffering of the poor and middle class?
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  14544. @Life changing beverage Obama was in office for 8 years.
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  14545. @Life changing beverage that's messed up
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  14546. Conservatives oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class... Like free college.
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  14547. What you REALLY need to achieve is interstellar travel. You need 3 things to create a starship Artificial gravity Ftl travel Enormous energy source
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  14548. You work yourself to death. No freedom for you says fox news.
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  14549. Wow
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  14550. You can't remove money because that and ideology fuel politics.
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  14551. The core problem is not economics, but ideology: Politicians do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape. Would kamala harris accept one billion dollars to deny women voting?
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  14552. ​ @wsb4586 yes
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  14553. ​ @Missy-Missy1111 that's even worse. And evil
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  14554. ​ @absoleet that too
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  14555. ​ @Missy-Missy1111 there are 13 reasons why poverty persists
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  14556.  @Missy-Missy1111  and many people who are conservative believe if you're not willing to work or use welfare or charity then you have no value.
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  14557.  @Missy-Missy1111  I wish poor people like myself could run for office.
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  14558.  @Missy-Missy1111  yes. This is why I don't vote. I stick to my own life where I desire to be an astrophysicist, screenwriter and science journalist.
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  14559.  @Missy-Missy1111  we don't want to end poverty
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  14560.  @Missy-Missy1111  I wish people would understand poverty is a problem that only helps the rich.
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  14561.  @Missy-Missy1111  do you believe poverty can end? Should end? Whose responsibility is it to end poverty?
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  14562. I'd support that.
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  14563. I made $8.50/hr as a cashier at one point.
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  14564. I want her to work making minimum wage for the rest of her life.
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  14565.  @AlexanderDivineEmcee  so cashiers are worse than rapists now? The real reason you're upset at that is because you believe mcdonald's workers provide no value to society. This is a moral issue to you, not an economic one.
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  14566. @whitewolfsthoughts700  no, that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking if they did make six figures. How would you feel? People seem to demean cashiers, telling them how much money they deserve to make.
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  14567.  @whitewolfdepauw  oh ok. Many people think minimum wage workers deserve poverty. Or maybe not above $50k. I was wondering if them making six figures would upset you.
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  14568.  @nrsrymj  how would you feel if cashiers and doctors made the same?
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  14569. @nrsrymj  okay. I find out that many people on the right are other wallet warriors, they feel like they can tell minimum wage workers how much money they deserve to make. They get upset when poor people receive "for free" what rich people get through "hard work." I.e., walmart cashiers making $60/hr doesn't take money out of your wallet or mine, but many conservatives would NOT be happy with cashiers making that much.
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  14570.  @Gregorypeckory  if ending poverty was a priority for Congress, the minimum wage would be $80/hr now
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  14571. Won't work. Republicans believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  14572. I'm poor
    1
  14573. But even women like that can get laid
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  14574. But without those workers to CEO makes nothing, skill or no skill. And CEOs can be replaced as well and CEOs do not make or break a company anyway.
    1
  14575. Billions
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  14576. They don't want to help the poor
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  14577. ​ @tommyfu9271 low income people don't get free everything.
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  14578. Yep
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  14579. Jesus.
    1
  14580. If you're poor, yes.
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  14581. You're correct. Also entertainment Industry is based on intellect property...which grants a monopoly. Monopolies stifle competition and is a form of welfare.
    1
  14582.  @joesnow3953  that is true. I don't understand what caused him to snap.
    1
  14583. I'm 28 years old and a virgin. It hurts me to my core.
    1
  14584.  @joesnow3953  do you not consider that unethical?
    1
  14585.  @joesnow3953  okay.
    1
  14586.  @joesnow3953  I'm broke but I'll have to figure out something
    1
  14587.  @joesnow3953  okay no problem. I'm not hopeless like Elliot
    1
  14588. Ok
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  14589.  @chrisp7110  strawman
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  14590. I see.
    1
  14591. Politicians and the rich believe that you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  14592. poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity. Same goes for college debt, homelessness, hunger, lack of affordable healthcare....
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  14593. And always will be.
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  14594. I will never understand why rich people taking risks is good, but the poor or workers taking risks is bad.
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  14595. That's messed up.
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  14596. Republicans believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  14597. that's regulation just in a different form...
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  14598. Wrong take away message.
    1
  14599. ​ @Ronnet Exactly.
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  14600. ​ @Ronnet he believes in just-world fallacy. He thinks rich people add value to society and poor people subtract it.
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  14601. Correct.
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  14602. Not until I have sex can I shed myself of being incel.
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  14603. Wow
    1
  14604. Exactly.
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  14605. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  14606. Which costs too much money for poor people
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  14607.  @JuniperMoonshine  that is correct....
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  14608.  @JuniperMoonshine  then provide funding.
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  14609.  @JuniperMoonshine  my replies are gone
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  14610.  @JuniperMoonshine  nothing is free. You already provide help for others.
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  14611. Sounds like you're underpaid too.
    1
  14612. 5x that amount
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  14613. Same.
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  14614. Well, poor people like myself can't afford to run for office and there are no independent candidates, so no my vote doesn't matter. My mom is dead because Medicaid expansion was denied in my state for too long and I'm dropping out of community college because I'm poor and can't afford to go
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  14615. My replies keep getting deleted
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  14616. You misunderstand hannity. He doesn't believe poor people deserve to have children but he knows advocating for eugenics directly will get him fired, so he advocates for it indirectly by suggesting the poor work themselves to death.
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  14617. Lol
    1
  14618. He believes poor people shouldn't have kids.
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  14619.  @Boobalopbop  yeah rich people are evil IMHO.
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  14620.  @Boobalopbop  my replies are deleted again.
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  14621. Except low wage workers have no bargaining power. They would use welfare but not in the current economic climate
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  14622. No because hookers don't offer intimacy
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  14623.  @Darke_Exelbirth  exactly
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  14624. Beautiful.
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  14625. Lol
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  14626. Yes
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  14627. Wages are a choice. Poverty is a policy choice. There's nothing utopian about it.
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  14628.  @Tafelplank  okay. Keep believing that lie.
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  14629.  @Tafelplank  poverty is literally due to lack of money. If you had enough money you wouldn't be poor. Period. And no there are no counter arguments- wages are a policy choice, just like voting or taxes. Even if personal responsibility is involved, we can still ensure nobody is poor.
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  14630.  @Tafelplank  the Netherlands has poor people because those governments believe poverty is okay.
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  14631.  @Tafelplank  we as a society believe women deserve to vote, so we ensure they have the right to vote, that's it. Wages are the same way. Wages are not like the weather: something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believe everyone deserves to make more money then everyone would make more, that's it. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. It's political policies and choices that allow poverty wages to persist.
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  14632.  @Tafelplank  there's nothing utopian about saying policies are controlled by people.
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  14633.  @Tafelplank  Man...it is literally is not a fantasy. Policies are controlled by people... That's it. As far as businesses not being able to afford a higher wage, then that's just a costly we as a society will have to pay then If that's what it takes to ensure our remaining workers make more then so be it. It doesn't matter if all companies go bankrupt, it doesn't matter if we have to restructure our society from the ground up, it doesn't matter if the world has to look unrecognizable 5 decades from now 5 months from now or even 5 minutes from now, if we truly believed every single worker deserved to not be poor we would figure out a way to do it.
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  14634.  @Tafelplank  we have government programs for people who don't have enough money, albeit that is another debate too but still. We can ensure no one is poor regardless of personal responsibility.
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  14635.  @Tafelplank  When i did i say i don't want inequality? When did i say pay doctors and janitors the same?
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  14636.  @Tafelplank  i never said inequality was bad, i said poverty was. Paying people enough to survive sets a floor, not a ceiling.
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  14637.  @Tafelplank  what in the world makes you think people will stop working if they are comfortable? Or if the minimum wage is above a certain level? You're acting like doctors will quit their jobs if the minimum wage was 15 or even $30 an hour why would that matter to them? Like I've said a million times, people decide what wages are, the Netherlands is no different. If people in the Netherlands truly did not want there to be poverty they simply would pay people more.
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  14638.  @Tafelplank  inequality is fine, it's the level of inequality that is atrocious.
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  14639.  @Tafelplank  i said doctors work out of passion...i also said a minimum wage of even thirty dollars an hour would not cause them to quit their jobs.
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  14640. That's what I'm doing.
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  14641. I'm incel and manage with porn.
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  14642. Workers could say no to a job they didn't want
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  14643. I'm incel. I AM happy he got laid!
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  14644. I'll do these steps to lose my virginity Wellness Fitness Get a job Save up Win a full ride scholarship
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  14645. Then use money to socialize once a week
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  14646. The problem is that this country is replete with minimum wage jobs it is not the fault of the workers
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  14647. Correct.
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  14648. Correct
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  14649. You believe a cashier working 40 hours a week deserves to be middle class?
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  14650. Ok
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  14651. But Republicans don't want equality
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  14652. We can't
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  14653. What?
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  14654. LOL.
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  14655. Okay
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  14656. Yep.
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  14657. 2.7 billion?
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  14658.  @motorman1700  I'm amazed he's worth that much but upset over a $15/hr minimum wage.
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  14659.  @motorman1700  with what McDonald's Chic fil a and other places make their cashiers should be making $100,000 a year. But i doubt most people want that.
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  14660. Howard is a Ghoul then.
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  14661. $30
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  14662.  @davidl2033  stop the madness.
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  14663.  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer  I love her more than anything.
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  14664.  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer  yes... I'm always negative and hateful towards women who even have asked me out on a date.
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  14665.  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer  at my age i should be...well...middle class or rich. Independent. Educated.
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  14666.  @thatguyshanewhoyourefuseto1201  i was born in 1994. My grandparents were brick mason/factory worker and could afford a house and two cars. Had a pension. Healthcare.
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  14667.  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer  not all people have the same talents or preferences. Not all people have the same job. Income, social status, mindset.
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  14668.  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer  being incel is a mindset. Not a physical handicap.
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  14669.  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer  thanks
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  14670.  @ClaireFrancePerezWonderer  thank you
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  14671. ​ @rridderbusch518 this.
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  14672. I will have to get a job and car soon. I'm a college student and need a crappy car.
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  14673.  @kurtwpg  ok
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  14674.  @havu2236  everyone deserves a living wage, regardless of skill. You're admitting that monopsony power is real and therefore distorts labor prices. Also, skill and effort are not the same. Healthcare and college are unaffordable.
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  14675.  @havu2236  yes but you're admitting the two are different. Fast food/retail generates hundreds of billions of dollars yearly, yet these workers make nothing, which isn't right. Employment is supposed to be about equivalent exchange, you provide billions and you shouldn't receive pennies in return.
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  14676. Correct.
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  14677. Exactly.
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  14678. Yes because it's now the job no one really wants. In a way fast food employers did this to themselves, by dumbing these jobs down to have no skill they've created a position in society that's worse than a rapist.
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  14679.  @danmoore6062  I wish we all had the same values.
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  14680. Land is a major source of wealth.
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  14681. Considering us can print its way out of any crisis that's doable.
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  14682. That's messed up.
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  14683. They are working, people aren't being paid enough
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  14684. He believes in just-world fallacy ​ @Llynnyia 
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  14685. Damn.
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  14686. This made me angry.
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  14687. The real reason work requirements exist is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  14688. Work requirements exist to force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs
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  14689. Which is why poverty is insuperable.
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  14690. Lol.
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  14691. Lol not all left wingers are like that.
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  14692. ​ @ddc2343d minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  14693.  @cmorris9494  my point is people use circular logic. Many people admit minimum wage jobs are dead end but then criticize people for not having skills or higher pay in jobs they just admitted were dead end. It's like admitting doctors can't build rockets, but 5 seconds later you ask doctors to build a rocket anyway.
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  14694. That's messed up.
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  14695. But that would help the poor so Fox guests don't want that.
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  14696. And is that actually possible?
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  14697.  @DonCDXX  would you abolish tax cuts/deductions?
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  14698.  @DonCDXX  why do you think fox hosts always say the rich are taxed too much?(or do they know about how the tax code was in the 1950's)
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  14699.  @chachaguillotine187  poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  14700.  @eragon78  i make $10/hr part time...
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  14701. Poverty is like women's suffrage: a policy choice, not a law of like gravity.
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  14702. That's depressing.
    1
  14703. Exactly.
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  14704. Lol no. Loans exist for people who can't afford college.
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  14705. "Earn" it as if being poor isn't bad enough.
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  14706.  @patrickbooth5091  Being poor does not automatically qualify you for financial aid. Even if it did it does not cover living expenses certainly not for trade schools.
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  14707.  @patrickbooth5091  And yes extending debt forgiveness to other areas I'm fine with canceling auto loan debt.
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  14708.  @patrickbooth5091  Considering college helps you get better jobs and support the economy I'd say yes it's fine for more people to go there. You don't have to go when you're 18 but it's better to start early than late. Magically? Forgiving loans is not magic, it's just a policy choice, one that is seen as undesirable by conservatives and politicians when it helps the poor.
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  14709.  @patrickbooth5091  I'm telling you that being poor does not automatically qualify for you loans. And there isn't enough scholarship funding for all poor people to go to college. Trade schools are $18,000 on average, that's still unaffordable if you're poor. Even half that is outrageous. That's also not covering living expenses either.
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  14710.  @YourDailyJam  I see. And poor people can't. In other words, we can't help politicians. I guess I'm not voting unless I escape poverty then.
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  14711.  @YourDailyJam  okay. I'll refrain from voting until politicians care about the poor.
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  14712.  @YourDailyJam  I'm a poor person now. I'm in community college trying to work on getting an associates degree, then transfer to university and obtain a bachelor's of science/physics degree. I'm stuck because healthcare i need is expensive that I get through Medicaid. The poverty level in my state is $20,000. But a living wage/salary is $25/hour or $52k a year. So if I make less than $20k, I'm poor. If I make more than $20k but less than $50k I'm too rich for Medicaid but too poor to afford private health insurance ($600 a month). But I'm incentivized to not work to keep Medicaid.
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  14713.  @YourDailyJam  thank you. I'll take a risk and try a small online business
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  14714.  @YourDailyJam  thank you brother. May you have a wonderful life ❤️
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  14715.  @OccidentalAryan  don't you think using an escort is wrong?
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  14716.  @OccidentalAryan  how does that solve the incel problem when I'd still be in the same position of no woman liking me?
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  14717.  @OccidentalAryan  okay
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  14718. ​ @zumazuma568 I'm a virgin at 28. Does that make me any less of a man?
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  14719. @zumazuma568  many people consider me abnormal for not having experienced sex or kissing.
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  14720.  @OccidentalAryan  Okay.
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  14721.  @zumazuma568  I've been hugged by friends. I'm saying a woman has never hugged me in a romantic sense.
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  14722.  @zumazuma568  would you look down on me for using a prostitute?
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  14723. Because it's just-world fallacy. Republicans believe rich people and business owners have " succeeded " in the " system that works." So when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. Whereas poor people have "failed," so any government help they receive is a " hand out. "
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  14724. Yep
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  14725. Because work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Being a CEO isn't a dead-end job, thus CEOs don't need to be forced to work
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  14726. That's what Republicans want
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  14727. Correct. Many people lose food stamps and medicaid for this exact reason.
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  14728. Because politicians don't want poor people to have healthcare.
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  14729.  @osamabinrotten2332  many Republican politicians believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class. They also want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. To this end, these politicians restrict welfare, for example, with work requirements, to achieve these goals.
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  14730. They can make their CEOs set for life yet can't pay enough else to do the same. That's hypocrisy.
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  14731. Unless you're poor. That's what conservatives don't wanna say out loud.
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  14732. Also state governments used to cover 95-99% of tuition... Which is why college used to be free.
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  14733. Exactly.
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  14734. I'm a virgin
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  14735. Yes
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  14736. How about everyone shouldn't have to experience deprivation and hardship in order to be motivated to make something of themselves. Working for a degree is one thing, having to work endless low wage jobs or go to the military is another.
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  14737. Because that would've been prison.
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  14738. Exactly.
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  14739. Incels feel entitled to have sex provided to them by the women that they choose. Since the women they want "should" be providing sex for free incels see no reason to work to make themselves more attractive and they certainly would not pay for it.
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  14740. Other industrialized nations manage to provide healthcare for everyone.
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  14741. Obviously scarcity prevents that, but that isn't the core argument here
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  14742. Exactly.
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  14743. He could raise the minimum wage to $45/hr for gov workers??
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  14744.  @shkibby1  45 though... He'd be even more hated. Would you support a 45/hr minimum wage.
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  14745.  @shkibby1  You'd be fine with a wal-mart cashier making almost $100,000 a year?
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  14746.  @shkibby1  yes star trek is awesome.
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  14747. Exactly.
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  14748.  @markzuckergecko621  obviously yes.
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  14749.  @markzuckergecko621  people don't get paid what they are worth, they get paid what they negotiate.
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  14750.  @markzuckergecko621  Chick-fil-A makes enough to pay their cashiers six figures. But no cashier makes that much. why? Because they can't negotiate for that much.
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  14751.  @jayobannon5359  and it's beautiful being trapped in debt!!
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  14752.  @markzuckergecko621  Chick-fil-A and the other mega corporations already make enough to pay their worker six figures. The workers are already worth six figures.
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  14753.  @markzuckergecko621  let me ask you something: If Walmart literally made 1 trillion dollars in profits every nanosecond you still would oppose cashiers making six figures?
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  14754. Shut up.
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  14755. Why shouldn't college be free? College costs a lot precisely to keep out poor people.
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  14756. ​@@latexsalesmanpoverty is a policy choice.
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  14757. @@latexsalesman Correct.
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  14758. @@latexsalesman A guaranteed minimum income would end poverty. It'd an overhaul of welfare and has no work requirements. It's pay poor people enough money for them to rise the middle class.
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  14759. @latexsalesman  poverty is ideological- poverty's existence is not unacceptable to politicians like rape is.
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  14760. @latexsalesman  my point about kamala harris is that greed is a choice, or rather, avarice is. Kamala values women's suffrage more than money/corporate profits/getting rich. I'm saying if she/other people truly thought everything else was just as important, lobbying wouldn't exist. Avarice wouldn't.
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  14761. @latexsalesman  she's a Terrible person, but I don't know why you don't understand my point. There are certain things we deem intolerable, certain things we deem tolerable.
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  14762. @@latexsalesman nice sarcasm. I'm saying what we prioritize are choices.
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  14763. @@latexsalesman my bad. When you called me socialist it made me angry.
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  14764. 34k is pennies compared to wage stagnation(these people would've been well-paid factory workers in the past) and inflation(100k adjusted for inflation is $2.1 million).
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  14765. Holy crap.
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  14766. Noone takes on debt by choice. If you could afford college outright you wouldn't need a loan. If I had Bill Gates wealth I would never go into debt on anything.
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  14767.  @stevencarpenter1212  I see. But college used to be affordable.... And I'm fine with paying off other's debts. Well, consumer debt anyway
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  14768.  @stevencarpenter1212  we'll just have to disagree then. I'm fine with wiping out all consumer debt for everyone.
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  14769. Wow.
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  14770. Many Republicans believe poor people don't deserve government assistance
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  14771. yes. conservatives believe people only succeed through effort, either is luck is fake or doesn't help in any way. In relation jobs, "skilled" jobs(which require more effort) are the only "worthy" jobs of making people rich or middle class.
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  14772.  @bryanwashington9511  oh okay cool.
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  14773. Thread from reddit: what's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor? Getting government money. Poor people receiving government subsidies and bailouts is bad But millionaires and billionaires getting the same thing is praised. In the context of welfare, americans believe they get nothing in exchange for helping the poor.
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  14774. You can't.
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  14775. If you believe that nonsense then women don't deserve to vote.
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  14776.  @BrandonisaCriminal  but just because it's been that way before doesn't mean it always has to be that way. Just like with women voting: just because women were denied voting for 143 years doesn't mean women were supposed to be denied voting forever.
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  14777.  @BrandonisaCriminal  You aren't paid based on how hard you work, you're paid based on how hard you are to replace. I'm 28 years old. I'm enrolled in community college, work as a cashier part-time, and just completed a mathematics physics internship. I've worked hard as a cashier, but I make $10 an hour. You know what my raise was? 50 cents. I will quit being a cashier eventually but the point I'm trying to make is designs and habits can change. We do not have to accept a poverty wage minimum wage, just like we didn't have to accept women being denied voting.
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  14778.  @BrandonisaCriminal  you can spend an unlimited amount of time you as a cashier, yet you will still be in "training." The truth is the job is dead-end. It gives you no money to survive, no money to pursue college, no skills, no anything. My ultimate goal in life is to get a full-ride scholarship to afford college. I desire to become an astrophysicist and independent.
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  14779.  @BrandonisaCriminal  we don't have a worker shortage, we have a pay shortage. People were making more money not working than they were making from working. Since that is the case then employers need to offer more money to attract employees. Either the minimum wage needs to be so high to obviate the need for welfare or welfare needs to be so high to obviate the need for minimum wage.
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  14780.  @BrandonisaCriminal  yes because entry level jobs are dead end
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  14781.  @BrandonisaCriminal  that's ancedotal.
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  14782.  @BrandonisaCriminal  sounds like just-world fallacy to me
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  14783.  @BrandonisaCriminal  I need college to become a physicist.
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  14784.  @BrandonisaCriminal  there is no way for me to become an astrophysicist without extensive college education.
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  14785. I desire to become an astrophysicist in screenwriter. I've been applying to scholarships daily. To become a screenwriter I don't need any schooling at all I can just start writing now. And then apply to fellowships and film festivals.
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  14786.  @BrandonisaCriminal  that's what I'm saying. Pay people enough to live whether they're in training or not. Pay everyone a living wage.
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  14787.  @BrandonisaCriminal  thank you brother. I do believe I'll become a physicist one day. I WILL NOT settle for being a cashier.
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  14788.  @BrandonisaCriminal  okay. I understand. I've got to work hard to become a physicist, and screenwriter, anything. I have to work harder, not just sit and complain.
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  14789.  @OfficialSeth  because conservatives believe unskilled workers provide no value to society.
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  14790. It's because Republicans believe in just-world fallacy.
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  14791. That's messed up.
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  14792.  @plumbbobconstructionpants5599  when will their greed end?
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  14793. @PlumbBob Constructionpants  yes it would. Idk why states don't simply shoot down those laws. Hell, incorporate it into the FLSA.
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  14794.  @lesliekennedy6276  I believe that's evil and Calvinism.
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  14795. Inflation is a real risk. You treat worker solidarity as intolerable, not poverty.
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  14796. This made me cry. I only make $10/hr.
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  14797. Medicaid is restricted because poor people don't work minimum wage jobs otherwise
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  14798.  @LittleGrayMouse  yes they are. I'm qualified for Medicaid in NC.
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  14799. ​ @LittleGrayMouse I'm saying relying on welfare is objectively better than working a minimum wage job, and politicians restrict welfare to force poor people into such jobs.
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  14800.  @LittleGrayMouse  ok
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  14801.  @LittleGrayMouse  my notifications have been messed up for months, I just saw your comment about surviving on welfare. You're right, you can't survive on welfare alone. My point was that welfare pays more than minimum wage jobs, and politicians restrict welfare so poor people like myself are forced into such jobs. I have Medicaid, but not food stamps. I lost my food stamps because they require you to work 30 hours a week, which I can't do while attending college full-time. I could work at the dollar store across the street that pays $9/hr. But that wage will not pay me enough to afford marketplace insurance($600 a month) or food
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  14802. It's an average wage.
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  14803. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  14804. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. THIS is why republicans hate welfare
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  14805. Correct.
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  14806.  @johncase1353  that's messed up
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  14807. Ok.
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  14808. I'm still a virgin
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  14809. I'm not paying for sex
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  14810. No
    1
  14811. While you are transitioning how do you afford housing?
    1
  14812.  @sheraldhill2728  not everyone can be promoted nor can everyone can get a college education.
    1
  14813. Do you believe women deserve voting?
    1
  14814.  @XxB42k15xX  minimum wage jobs are dead end because they give you no skills nor enough money to pay for college.
    1
  14815.  @XxB42k15xX  service Jobs are all you can get with a high school diploma alone.
    1
  14816. And considering what these places make they could pay cashiers $100,000/yr.
    1
  14817. That's messed up.
    1
  14818. ​ @stephenkizlik8465 yep
    1
  14819. Beautiful 😊
    1
  14820. Yep.
    1
  14821. Yep.
    1
  14822. Yep.
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  14823. Conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage to a living wage because of morals: they believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  14824. Some places require $30/hr. If you have kids, some places require $64/hr.
    1
  14825. ​ @DinnyDonbas exactly
    1
  14826. ​ @ericswift846 then demand corporations stop being greedy
    1
  14827. That's messed up.
    1
  14828. ​ @dataphoenix8004 he's more upset or not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage.
    1
  14829.  @allensumner8273  let's do it.
    1
  14830.  @altergreenhorn  you want even burger flippers to make a decent living?
    1
  14831.  @quillo2747 being paid more isn't bad, being paid greatly more is bad. Noone is saying CEO and janitor make the same, but CEOs run the business like the janitor, like every other worker. Labor prices should be based on equivalent exchange and consent.
    1
  14832. It's called Calvinism.
    1
  14833. I got a raise of $0.50 as a cashier....
    1
  14834. @BoltStrike  Calvinism is based on the idea that hard work is the path to salvation, not faith. You judge people by how hard they work- "skill."
    1
  14835.  @boltstrike2787  I see. Now you make sense.
    1
  14836. Upward mobility is non existent.
    1
  14837. Incels feel entitled to have sex provided to them by the women that they choose. Since the women they want "should" be providing sex for free incels see no reason to work to make themselves more attractive and they certainly would not pay for it.
    1
  14838. ​ @TheDeadKingsRaven that's messed up.
    1
  14839.  @nodiggity8746  no it isn't. Free tinder limits number of likes.
    1
  14840. Wow.
    1
  14841. ​ @dthomas9230 yep
    1
  14842. Exactly.
    1
  14843. Nothing is free.
    1
  14844.  @ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr  exactly.
    1
  14845.  @ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr  yes
    1
  14846. Yep
    1
  14847. Cogmppi77
    1
  14848. Exactly. But Ben shapiro won't get your sarcasm.
    1
  14849.  @chasemunoz3236  thank you.
    1
  14850. That's messed up
    1
  14851. Cruelty towards the disabled is the point.
    1
  14852. Exactly.
    1
  14853.  @jstaszak100  what does that have to do with what I said?
    1
  14854.  @christownsend3979  okay? That doesn't mean ignore them?
    1
  14855. You need healthcare You don't need tattoos
    1
  14856.  @mattw8335  that right there: what do you mean nobody deserves anything? People deserve religious freedom, freedom of speech, voting, consent, to live, etc. So don't tell me that nobody deserves anything. And every decision involves paying a price. Maybe not with money but we all pay. Losing Money is not the true source of your anger, because tax hikes or inflation don't make murder, rape, or denying women voting acceptable. What this is really about is you oppose social insurance: the fortunate helping the misfortunate. If you took a step back and realized that the main reason welfare exists is because corporations are greedy and want to exploit the poor to work for slave wages.
    1
  14857.  @mattw8335  no billionaire or doctor accepts uses welfare. If corporations stopped desiring cheap labor, you wouldn't have to step in and subsidize other's kids
    1
  14858.  @mattw8335  corporations force people for work by depressing wages and paying politicians to oppose living wages, unions and welfare. If you think poverty is a choice, that hard work always prevails, then you believe in just-world fallacy and you have no concern for facts.
    1
  14859.  @mattw8335  my replies are deleted.
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  14860.  @mattw8335  stop having kids you can't afford? So are you willing to take this to its logical conclusion? Are you willing to ban poor women from having kids or having sex? Because there is no way of doing either without infringing on women's rights.
    1
  14861.  @mattw8335  then you must be prepared to admit you want to force poor women to either not have sex or not have kids. There is no way of doing this.
    1
  14862. Poverty is a policy choice.
    1
  14863. Wtf
    1
  14864. This is PRECISELY why we don't have robust welfare support programs, because NOBODY would EVER work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
    1
  14865.  @hughjanus3508  workers take risk as well.
    1
  14866. Exactly
    1
  14867. The real reason why we've never had robust welfare programs is because Noone would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
    1
  14868. i just need to lose my virginity.
    1
  14869. Ok
    1
  14870. It's about priorities
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  14871. The work requirements attached to welfare are a red herring. The real reason politicians refuse to implement robust welfare programs is because poor people won't work for slave wages, namely minimum wage, if they have government benefits.
    1
  14872. @crosslink1493  yes. Clinton reformed welfare.
    1
  14873. What do you mean they're asking for too much? How do you have the right to tell them that the jobs are meaningless?
    1
  14874.  @AnAceism  I'm not an idiot. Value is subjective, we can decide to deem any job meaningful or meaningless.
    1
  14875.  @OneShot_G  not while I'm in community college. Eventually university. But I'm looking into remote jobs.
    1
  14876.  @OneShot_G  I'll make it.
    1
  14877. It's the twelve labors of hercules for poor people.
    1
  14878. What you and Kyle aren't getting is conservatives judge people by skills, to fit their narrative of a meritocracy. Doctors deserve $120/hr to start, cashiers don't deserve $12/hr.
    1
  14879. My replies are deleted
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  14880. That's messed up.
    1
  14881. Then classism trumps racism
    1
  14882. @ yep
    1
  14883. Yep
    1
  14884. Yep
    1
  14885. The reason medicaid has work requirements is because the government wants to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
    1
  14886.  @sopheakko697  44 to flip burgers? Yes
    1
  14887. Wow.
    1
  14888. That's crazy
    1
  14889. These people believe in survivorship bias
    1
  14890. Because they don't want to admit poverty is a policy choice
    1
  14891. ​ @narutouzumaki6409 that's worse
    1
  14892. Raising minimum wage would end poverty.
    1
  14893. Why does it matter if the person is young?
    1
  14894. Because it's about power and control.
    1
  14895. Conservatives oppose policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class.
    1
  14896. You're saying you're opposed to the inconveniences which would accompany poverty's reduction.
    1
  14897. Exactly ​ @odinson6348 
    1
  14898. Because business owners feel entitled to having unlimited money and decision making power. You can't have either without the threat of poverty. I would not be a cashier if I could afford college.
    1
  14899. You heard that too, right?
    1
  14900. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    1
  14901. That's messed up
    1
  14902. Exactly.
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  14903. This fox host wants poverty
    1
  14904. Why so low?
    1
  14905. No, Reagan cut education funding because he felt poor people shouldn't be educated. Now politicians fight against free college to ensure society's dead-end jobs get done. After all🧬 No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs or pay.
    1
  14906. Beautiful.😊
    1
  14907. ​ @kurisu7885  yep. It's one big circle
    1
  14908. Conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors demanded $15/hr the government would pass a $80/hr minimum wage.
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  14909. Correct. So in a way the rich receive MORE welfare than the poor but the poor receive more criticism as "takers."
    1
  14910. ​ @tobiasfunke6284 there's a stigma associated with minimum wage jobs
    1
  14911. Yep
    1
  14912. $6 is $28.13 now. And his college tuition was $898 a year
    1
  14913.  @scathachmuirisc7149  yep
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  14914.  @megmoore335  I believe it should be written in the Constitution that one job must pay enough to people for them to not be in poverty, enough for them to live a healthy and humane life.
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  14915. I work as a cashier and it's more expensive to have a job than not have one. My only bills, even gas alone, cost more than what I make from working. The work uniforms and gas cost more than what the job paid.
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  14916.  @juanvillarreal9805  that's why walmart is only open during school hours.
    1
  14917. Exactly.
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  14918. Ezra klein- the American economy runs on poverty.
    1
  14919. Yes
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  14920. How do I lose my vcard then?
    1
  14921.  @nakfoor1846  it's almost like Republicans are heartless bastards.
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  14922. That's messed up.
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  14923. You are the one deciding what is charitable and what isn't. This is about priorities. Last time I checked, nobody complains about the government ensuring women have the right to vote, or freedom of speech.
    1
  14924.  @robinmc142  okay.
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  14925. Laffer opposes raising the minimum wage for poor people.
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  14926. That's not true.
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  14927.  @tims8603  wow.
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  14928. If Kamala Harris was offered $2 billion to deny women voting, would she take the money?
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  14929. @Tim S  I hate cops too. But I don't believe people HAVE to be corrupted by money or power. If kamala Harris was offered 3 billion dollars to deny women voting, if she was offered even more money than that and even more power than she already has, she still wouldn't do it. That lets me know it's about our values and priorities.
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  14930. You seem upset at poor people wanting better lives for themselves
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  14931. I'm on medicaid while going to college. My two medicines are $739
    1
  14932. Nope
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  14933.  @grokitall  not the real problem here. The real problem so that such a policy empowers poor people without regards to whether they work or not
    1
  14934. The rich know this, they just don't care.
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  14935. Yep​ @Nostradevus1 
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  14936. Yes
    1
  14937. Exactly.
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  14938. Yes it's the businesses job lol. It's society's job to ensure no worker is left in poverty
    1
  14939.  @whyyeseyec  do you believe women deserve to vote? What if a particular state denied women voting? Would you tell the women it's their own job to make their lives better and they're lazy?
    1
  14940.  @whyyeseyec  women's voting is a policy choice based on what people think others deserve- as is poverty and the minimum wage. The difference being we deem women crying from being denied voting as unacceptable to allow, but workers crying from poverty is a-okay. It's hypocritical and disgusting.
    1
  14941. That's a problem with the business model then. Adjust it or fail.
    1
  14942. I'd need to make $120/hr to pay for college now.
    1
  14943. Yes​ @bovinityleak2066 
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  14944. ​Be quiet @firstlast8258 
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  14945.  @flashthompson6566  that's messed up the rich have enough money to pay back the loans.
    1
  14946. Exactly.
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  14947. Correct
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  14948. ​ @christopherbohanan4453 exactly
    1
  14949. That made me cry.
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  14950. ​@Eragon7 but politicians don't want that.
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  14951. The truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to take. It is worker solidarity, not poverty, which is the risk our politicians refuse to accept.
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  14952. Republicans believe people who don't work are worthless
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  14953. Congress makes the laws. They won't do this to themselves
    1
  14954. Yep.
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  14955. That's ignoring overtime. Although, even with OT, you don't reach $400k still.
    1
  14956. ​ @subnaught yes
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  14957. Because those people believe poor people don't deserve government assistance but rich people do.
    1
  14958.  @tomcoop9750  boom.
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  14959. Private insurance companies aren't providing healthcare to people who can't afford it
    1
  14960. I'm in USA. I envy you.
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  14961. ​ @regisglass5464  I'm working on a job, then license. I want to lose my virginity so severely.
    1
  14962.  @regisglass5464  yes. I've learned asking directly for sex doesn't work
    1
  14963.  @regisglass5464  the reason I haven't used a hooker is because the affection isn't genuine
    1
  14964.  @regisglass5464  I live with my dad, but I'm still enrolled in community college next fall. I desire a scholarship and finish my volunteer work, so I'm not a NEET like him
    1
  14965.  @djshannon16  will do.
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  14966. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education grant?
    1
  14967. I cried reading that.
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  14968. That's messed up.
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  14969. Because most people believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  14970.  @henryford2950  yes. And idiotic logic these rich people have.
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  14971.  @henryford2950  oh. That's even worse.
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  14972.  @henryford2950  it's so depressing.
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  14973. ​ @jayjones9219 yep
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  14974. Yep.
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  14975. Yep
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  14976. It's called the fallacy of relative privation. You ignore a problem by pointing to a bigger problem for comparison. It would be like if someone complained to me as police chief that my police department only solves 50% of crimes then I say that's not a big deal because other police departments only solve 30%. So therefore you should be happy that I am not that low.
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  14977. Your dad believes in just-world fallacy.
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  14978. ​ @Reienroute exactly
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  14979. I'm on Medicaid and food stamps and will use even more welfare. I make $10.50/he as a cashier and $900/semester as an intern.
    1
  14980. I despise women rejecting me
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  14981.  @Corgwin890  I'll keep working on myself and getting better
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  14982.  @plantbasedsenior4240  yep
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  14983.  @plantbasedsenior4240  yep
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  14984.  @anthonydelfino6171  Medicaid has a similar income trap. The poverty level in my state is $20k but a living wage (that is assuming you work full-time) is $51k. If I make below 20 I have Medicaid if I make above 51 I have private insurance. if I make between these two numbers I have neither public nor private insurance while I'm attending school, since low-paying jobs don't offer health insurance and students don't get health insurance either.
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  14985.  @anthonydelfino6171   @anthonydelfino6171  Medicaid has a similar income trap. The poverty level in my state is $20k but a living wage (that is assuming you work full-time) is $51k. If I make below 20 I have Medicaid if I make above 51 I have private insurance. if I make between these two numbers I have neither public nor private insurance while I'm attending school, since low-paying jobs don't offer health insurance and students don't get health insurance either.
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  14986.  @homerthompson416  fuck my comment got deleted again
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  14987.  @homerthompson416  post your reply on any of my YouTube videos. It seems if I post on people's channels my comments don't disappear.
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  14988.  @homerthompson416  YouTube hates anti establishment rhetoric LOL. In all seriousness YouTube deletes your comments if you type comments too quickly.
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  14989.  @homerthompson416  it sure does
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  14990.  @homerthompson416  yeah it was a great functional analysis, now whenever you hear people hate on McDonald's workers what they are really saying is that they want people to be trapped in these jobs that they know are dead-end, undignified and menial(dirty)
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  14991.  @homerthompson416  that's awesome! SO MUCH FOR ME TO KOOK FORWARD TO! Wish me luck on winning a full ride scholarship.
    1
  14992.  @homerthompson416  my replies are deleted again
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  14993.  @homerthompson416  I can't wait to learn about Hilbert space
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  14994.  @imnotmike  I had food stamps but lost them because of the reinstated work requirements.
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  14995.  @imnotmike  the reason welfare is restricted for college students is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  14996.  @mateosolum2522  because when I was 20 I chose to take care of my sick mom up until her passing away when I turned 28.
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  14997.  KRobinson-ko1ne  ok
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  14998.  KRobinson-ko1ne  yes. that is correct..
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  14999.  @RShak  with....jobs that pay minimum wage?
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  15000.  @RShak  you expect a college student to afford rent or a house?
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  15001.  @Theaverageazn247  not working minimum wage...and paying for healthcare and a car.
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  15002.  @Theaverageazn247  I shouldn't have to do while corporations receive subsidies with no such restrictions.
    1
  15003. Ok​ @syrinx9196 
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  15004. @lindadeeds5326  You can't afford housing working a minimum wage job while in school.
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  15005. But not everyone can escape said jobs. On some level, people want fast food jobs to exist like they want cops and doctors to exist. What you're arguing for is for some people to live in poverty.
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  15006.  @thirdlynephilim  then that's a bad business model
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  15007. How about demand you get paid more. And McDonald's workers don't get benefits like nurses.
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  15008. Poor people can't afford to run for office
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  15009. They don't care about raising the minimum wage because they morally believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
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  15010. Me.
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  15011. Cut his salary by his approval rating.
    1
  15012. I'm happy for you
    1
  15013. Exactly
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  15014. If the children are the poor then they are already dead(in conservative eyes).
    1
  15015. Or so corporations don't have to provide benefits
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  15016. Ok
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  15017. The disgusting irony sickens me.
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  15018. It is messed up the problem could be remedied that quickly, but our government doesn't do it.
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  15019. Why?
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  15020. ​ @amandadiamond7147 okay
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  15021. Rich people deserve welfare Poor people don't
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  15022. They buy into the lie of just-world fallacy.
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  15023. Wtf
    1
  15024. ​ @abbiealverez2960 exactly
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  15025. Not everyone can find a career. And what's considered a career and what isn't is subjective. We can collectively decide for all jobs to pay decent wages.
    1
  15026. I know. I was forced onto Medicaid due to NC Medicaid expansion. I had to wait two months to get a simple vision exam done. If I had kept my blue Cross Blue shield insurance, I could've been seen in two days
    1
  15027. Why should someone who remains a cashier have a say in how the company operates? They're not managing the company.
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  15028. It's just the rich
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  15029. That's the problem, the government opposes helping the poor.
    1
  15030. CEO of Apple is making $98 million a year
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  15031. A dollar per year? That's literally a raise worth PENNIES.
    1
  15032.  @gilbertcesar1268  that's depressing.
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  15033.  @gilbertcesar1268  I think you hit the nail right on the head: The truth of the matter is minimum wage / entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  15034.  @gilbertcesar1268  I just hate when people tell cashiers GET MORE SKILLS when the damn job is dead-end/low-end. Imagine me expecting a traffic cop to be stopping armed robbers like he's a SWAT officer.
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  15035.  @gilbertcesar1268  I imagine if corporations were taxed 2x-5x the amount their employees used in welfare benefits employee pay would increase in a hurry.
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  15036. I'll stop ranting now. I literally can't imagine a $1.00/yr raise.
    1
  15037. Correct. I work as a cashier at a grocery store. GREAT benefits if you're full-time. So what does the company do? Schedule everyone for part-time of course!
    1
  15038. I'm an incel because I am a virgin at 27 despite having tried to get laid for years. I haven't kissed a girl either.
    1
  15039.  @morticia3295  I hate myself because I feel like I'm a failure for not being able to interact with women normally enough to sleep with them.. I've seen literal 300 lb men with girlfriends.
    1
  15040.  @morticia3295  I'm not independent at 27 but I'm trying to be. I'm trying to do something with my life.
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  15041.  @morticia3295  thank you. I won't beat myself up anymore. My internship is giving me experience but I made $69 after 2 months.... $15/hr but I'm limited to 4 hrs a week. I'm not alone in being a "temp" slave. Pay you minimum wage with the promise you'll become a full-time employee later but that later never comes.
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  15042.  @morticia3295  I'm happy I'm making progress. I'm sorry for being sexist.
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  15043. I'm insecure about my virginity but I know hiring a hooker won't help me I don't hate women.
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  15044.  @morticia3295  a woman a while back was/is a script consultant. She let me interview her for free and offered me her screenwriting class for free. I took it, passed with flying colors, then won 8th out of 80 in a screenwriting competition. She encouraged me to pursue screenwriting and offered me the chance to make my dream a reality.
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  15045. He also doesn't want minimum wage workers making a living wage.
    1
  15046. Yep.
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  15047. You're correct
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  15048. Yep. That's not a perfect system either then.
    1
  15049.  @mronewheeler  yes. Risk and context.
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  15050. I don't know what's more insulting: the fact that they paid you only $36 a month or the fact that they think that that Measley amount is too much.
    1
  15051. I don't understand why republicans say greed is good: telling CEO's they deserve to make millions more, but they also oppose poor people making Fifteen dollars an hour.
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  15052. I got $219 a month and only due to covid. In North Carolina, once you turn 26. If you don't have kids or disabilities, you can't get any welfare.
    1
  15053. I'm on Medicaid and food stamps while going to community college. I'd say poverty means USA isn't great
    1
  15054. Yes
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  15055. I'm changing as an incel. Give me credit.
    1
  15056. Because the rich have to be believe in the myth of meritocracy. If they admit what you said it would make them feel like they cheated to success.
    1
  15057. Same.
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  15058. Ok
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  15059. The reason republicans oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  15060. He did have money and you can't pay for sex.
    1
  15061.  @dkupke  it is about sex for me. I'm 29 and a virgin. I want to lose my virginity.
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  15062.  @TheRulezzzzzz  you can't pay for sex because you can't buy consent or intimacy. Elliot didn't want sex. He wanted women to want sex from him.
    1
  15063. ​ @TheRulezzzzzz who does not find me attractive.
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  15064. ​​ @TheRulezzzzzz I'm 29 now. I am Still a virgin.
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  15065. ​ @TheRulezzzzzz okay
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  15066. I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have of that (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country. I started turning my life around at 28, but it doesn't change the fact I don't have my mom, my degree, or my 20s all because I was and am still poor. I'll never be able to get back what I lost, and that isn't what could happen in this country if it was truly great. Now, I have to deal with the fact nobody truly loves me or ever will like my mom, and everyone I know has screwed me over since she passed away, making my life even more difficult.
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  15067. Holy crap
    1
  15068. Because rich people are the ones in charge.
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  15069. ​ @sandermez3856 that's disgusting
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  15070. Not everyone can reach management, there aren't enough upper level positions available. What you should be recognizing is these jobs are dead-end
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  15071. They can't
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  15072.  @paintedlantern7248  wow.
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  15073.  @paintedlantern7248  you'd be fine with a cashier owning a home?
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  15074. That's an acceptable risk.
    1
  15075. Wtf
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  15076. Correct
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  15077. The point is to force disabled people to be in poverty. Seems like your government hates disabled people as well
    1
  15078. I'm disgusted by this as an incel. You can not buy or force true companionship.
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  15079. I desire a woman to like me.
    1
  15080. ​ @jermainemyrn19 hi
    1
  15081.  @nathanmiller3891  yep
    1
  15082.  @TheRantingRooster  how?
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  15083.  @TheRantingRooster  why?
    1
  15084.  @Rowsy91  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
    1
  15085.  @SableTwoSeven  yep.
    1
  15086. 21 million felonies and I'll still vote for him
    1
  15087. Yep
    1
  15088.  @michaelblasius7705  okay
    1
  15089.  @michaelblasius7705  okay
    1
  15090.  @michaelblasius7705  okay
    1
  15091.  @subnaught  I hate USA
    1
  15092.  @Muryxkitteh  you are correct. I don't have value in this capitalist society. I've decided to stop watching my brother and move out.
    1
  15093.  @subnaught  okay
    1
  15094. ​ @subnaught wow
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  15095. I don't want to, but I'm poor.
    1
  15096. Capitalism baby.
    1
  15097. that would require politicans to not be corrupt and bought out by corporations.
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  15098.  @seanrea550  well times change. It's time for entry-level jobs to pay more now.
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  15099.  @billybeemus3929  incorrect. If workers were paid based on profit sharing places like Chic Fil A would pay their cashiers around $100,000 per year.
    1
  15100. You can't pay someone to like you
    1
  15101. You can't buy intimacy or affection
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  15102. THAT would've been a victory.
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  15103. Republicans have an axiom: rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor. Anything which helps the poor is unfair.
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  15104. Lack of intimacy is why I will not use a hooker to lose my virginity.
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  15105. The real reason work requirements exist is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  15106. It's called being able-bodied.
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  15107. This is a moral issue to you, not an economic one: you believe poor people don't deserve to make a living wage
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  15108.  @robertstone9988  you're right. I would want to date someone on my level. I can't expect Instagram models and famous women to be throwing themselves at me. I have to understand there are women in my situation financially, and I shouldn't be so picky or judgemental.
    1
  15109. Exactly.
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  15110. Ok
    1
  15111. Yep
    1
  15112. Wow.
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  15113. Yes
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  15114. Wow.
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  15115. Politicians have no desire to end poverty in USA because poverty us what keeps the economy alive
    1
  15116. It'd be over $40/hr in place with profit sharing.
    1
  15117.  @nedsantos1415  okay
    1
  15118. Right.
    1
  15119. That's the point. To trap people in debt.
    1
  15120. Yep.
    1
  15121. It's called just-world fallacy.
    1
  15122. Conservatives oppose policies which reduce poverty.
    1
  15123. It isn't about the costs, but the benefits: poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  15124. ​ @marciamartins1992  wow. I've never heard of that.
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  15125. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  15126.  @thejuicerr  my comments are gone.
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  15127. I notice Noone complains when rich people and business owners get relief, only the poor.
    1
  15128. Hahaha I'm dead.
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  15129.  @SusanYeske701  ironically college was CHEAPER when the federal government subsidized colleges MORE.
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  15130.  @SusanYeske701  per student.
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  15131.  @johntoemilytransitionvlog9418  most developed countries aren't ran by corporate hacks.
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  15132.  @ODST626  people think cashiers are rapists now...
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  15133. ​ @bobbiikk7891 you're evil
    1
  15134. Right
    1
  15135. Yes
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  15136. Using a prostitute doesn't solve the problem of no woman loving you. That would be like wondering why don't unemployed people just pay someone else to pretend to give them a job
    1
  15137. I am feeling some pain in America. I work as a cashier at a supermarket, I make $10 an hour. Now if this was the 1950s that'd be fine but with housing and car prices now I can't afford to live on my own. I still live with my family. I can't stand watching Fox News because they bash minimum wage workers like myself calling me lazy. Yeah none of these Fox News or conservative pundits explain to me how "working your way up" on a minimum wage job gives you a 50-cent raise per year-if that-and that there are not enough jobs for all of us to move up to. The truth of the matter is many entry-level jobs are dead end.
    1
  15138. Yep
    1
  15139. I'll debate you.
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  15140. Rights and privileges are subjective, but this debate is really about priorities.
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  15141. @Roger  I'm saying this: politics is truly about our priorities first and foremost. I don't believe scarcity has anything to do with it. For example, rape. USA deems it more important for women to be able to have sexual control over their own bodies than men being able to control and subjugate women. It's about what we prioritize. it's about what we value the most. The core problem with voting. Medicaid, poverty, and all politics is the same: priorities. Politicians do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape. Our country does not fundamentally believe that all sources of suffering are wrong. Politicians can end poverty. It simply isn't among their priorities.
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  15142. American government wants to prevent poor people from having children.
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  15143. Yep
    1
  15144. he's an other wallet warrior. @bsmith9149 
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  15145. ​ @matthewcarver2013 exactly.
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  15146. ​ @alexcampbell4297 Lol.
    1
  15147. Spider man: with great power comes great responsibility
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  15148.  @KealohaHarrison  yes LOL. I'm in community college right now and while tuition is cheaper, they don't cover living expenses, forcing me to be on welfare in order to get by. It isn't like everyone can win $10 million of scholarships lolol(one guy told me that because that one student did, all students can)
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  15149. It's justified to conservatives.
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  15150. Poor people like myself have no political voice
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  15151. Blame greedy corporations.
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  15152. Yep.
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  15153. Because MSNBC panders to Democrats. They don't tell the truth.
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  15154. Ok
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  15155. They want to force people back to terrible jobs
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  15156. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power not poverty, that politicians treat as intolerable.
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  15157. Ok
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  15158. Hahaha these politicians are so removed from the poverty in America.
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  15159.  @user-fx4qz8pt3w  these politicians are disgusting.
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  15160. ​ @sfguidry1959  thank you.
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  15161. Please tell me you don't believe people enjoy poverty.
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  15162. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  15163. she wants poverty to exist.
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  15164. No.
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  15165. ​ @blooflazh7 I know
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  15166. LOL, Cindy. Don't you get it? That's the point!! Republicans use "able bodied" and "work requirements " to hide the REAL reason they hate welfare: just-world fallacy. They believe that rich people and business owners have succeeded in the "system that works," so when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. whereas poor people have "failed," so any government help is a "handout.""
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  15167. And republicans are willing to pay MORE as long as they see people they don't like suffer.
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  15168. I'm in THAT exact situation: I go to community college, work as a cashier, be an intern. My cashier job pays $10.50/hr with 0 benefits. The internship pays $900/semester. I'm poor. But I receive 0 welfare because I'm past 25 years old(I'm 28), and have no kids or disabilities.
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  15169. @Uncle Hotwater Cornbread  lucky for you. I lost medicaid when I was 26. I qualified again because NC passed medicaid expansion. But since I have existing health insurance, I can't get medicaid anyway(you need to have no health insurance on top of being poor).
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  15170. @Cindy P  do you believe I deserve poverty as a part time community college student?
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  15171. Thank you for your input​ @cindyp5132 
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  15172. He knows. He doesn't care.
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  15173. It's always the rich speaking on behalf of the poor and never the other way around.
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  15174. Exactly
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  15175. Exactly.
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  15176. ​ @LRRPFco52 yep.
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  15177. I'm fine with that.
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  15178. Says him. Says the poor. And because it's wrong.
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  15179.  @RL-ue4dz  because it's suffering?
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  15180.  @RL-ue4dz  obviously people will never make exactly the same. But we can have a floor that ensures everyone can survive. Poverty is a policy choice so no there doesn't "have to" be a poor class.
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  15181.  @RL-ue4dz  poor people are obese because fast food is cheaper than healthier food. There's no massive hunger because over $75 billion worth of food Stamps are spent EVERY YEAR. without SNAP grocery store industry would collapse. So in a way poverty is just as bad now as it once was. Poor people are not asking for luxury cars.... I'm poor myself. I only want a home, car, Healthcare, food, clothing. Obviously not a Rolex but a trip to Belks or brooksbrothers. That isn't unreasonable to ask nor impossible to achieve. USA could end poverty with 1% of GDP.
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  15182.  @charlesronk2989  That is depressing.
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  15183. Abolishing poverty is not among the priorities of politicians. Abolishing student loan debt has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status
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  15184. That's the point: government benefits pay more than low wage jobs.
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  15185. Yep.
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  15186. Wow
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  15187. I'm at community college. Community colleges don't cover living expenses such as food. I'm forced onto government assistance like medicaid. I had government assistance for food, but lost it due to work requirements. I can't afford a car. If I don't win scholarships I'll have to drop out of school.
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  15188.  @Jollyjose251  I'll be talking to women in person. After I get a job, license, and car.
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  15189.  @Jollyjose251  I'm returning to community college next semester
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  15190. That isn't sex
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  15191. ​ @RocKnight11 I'm not gay
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  15192.  @FestusJex  I'm a freaking virgin at 29. It sucks.
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  15193. @abeaconintheoffice I'm changing unlike him
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  15194. They want minimum wage workers in poverty
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  15195. You're right. I'm lazy and make excuses That's why I'm a kissless virgin.
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  15196.  @anthonytwohill9726  lol mcds isn't paying a $120,000 bill to send any cashier to college.
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  15197. These people say such lies
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  15198.  @anthonytwohill9726  yep. I read that it would take $8 trillion to send all 70 million hourly employees to college(avg salary $35,000 a year).
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  15199. That's messed up.
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  15200. Poor people like myself can't run a news media company​ @thiefpotato2759 
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  15201. ​ @IfHighgateswereclimbable I see
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  15202. ​ @IfHighgateswereclimbable epic
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  15203. Hate corporations.
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  15204. Yes
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  15205. Corporate pencil pushers
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  15206. Yes.
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  15207. That made me cry as an incel.
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  15208. I made $10/hr as a cashier. My "raise" was $0.50.
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  15209. ​ @Brigadier_Beau  boom.
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  15210.  @222aztek  yeah it's messed up.
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  15211.  @andreah6379  ah okay
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  15212.  @michellereed3272  ah
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  15213. @jshowao  okay
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  15214. Hahaha i just noticed that.
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  15215. Minimum wage jobs are not worked by only kids anymore
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  15216. Poor people like myself can't afford to run
    1
  15217. Wow
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  15218.  @patricktsai2303  that's messed up.
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  15219. Technically McDonald's does. . $2,500/year. But that's less than the cost of a single class here.
    1
  15220. Okay
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  15221. ​ @derpinguin7003 ok
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  15222. Community colleges also cost money, even with financial aid. They don't cover the living expenses at all, such as healthcare.
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  15223.  @WH0oo...  Okay there's a way.
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  15224. I don't understand.
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  15225. @TherealToppo  oh I see.
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  15226. Yep 43% of people are in poverty
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  15227. Because many Americans are calvinist.
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  15228.  @XxXIamEpicXxX  because the women can move on to another man.
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  15229. Wow
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  15230. ​@James not everyone can be promoted at once. There are many people who work minimum wage for years, if not decades.
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  15231. ​ @cassady7169  millions more make $1-$3 above minimum wage.
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  15232. @Cassady  that the minimum wage debate isn't about the minimum wage or money. It's about priorities. It's about the simple fact that many people don't consider poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
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  15233.  @James-fh6ft  you truly believe someone whose 37 and a bagger for 10 years is lazy?
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  15234. @Cassady  you aren't understanding me: politicians do not think poverty is wrong. They don't find its existence unacceptable.
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  15235. @Cassady  1. No one would need to do that if everyone made a living wage to start. 2. Poverty level is artificially low. 3. About $867 billion annually to implement a guaranteed income. 4. The real political problem with a guaranteed income isn't the costs, but the benefits. A policy like this would give workers too much bargaining power. They could demand better wages and benefits and quit jobs that exploited them. 5..Americans would oppose the inconveniences which would accompany poverty's elimination...like inflation and unemployment increasing. 6. Worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once.
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  15236. @Cassady  um. 1. Minimum wage workers want to make more money for themselves. It's greedy business owners who don't care about it. 2. Markets are created and structured by humans. They're not like the weather, something You observe and predict but can not control.
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  15237. College was also $800 per semester back then so one only needed to work 150 hours. Now tuition is $10,000. You'd have to make $66.60 to afford that in the same amount of time.
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  15238. You're right.
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  15239. Ok​ @bibliophelia83 
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  15240. And?
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  15241. The work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Medicaid is better than working minimum wage Republicans keep the poverty level low to ensure more welfare spending isn't done.
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  15242. Yep
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  15243.  @kylewilliams8114  like most conservatives he doesn't question the status quo. He also opposes financial help for the poor.
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  15244. I don't vote
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  15245. Then you're more upset over inflation and unemployment than workers having a living wage
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  15246. It's called just-world fallacy
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  15247. I want to lose my vcard before I'm 30
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  15248. Yep
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  15249.  @GrowMasterGeneral  corporations are greedy and all workers want and deserve is to not be in poverty
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  15250.  @GrowMasterGeneral  no...I wouldn't lol. If I made $45/hr or made as much as a neurosurgeon I would have no desire to apply for food stamps even if it totaled $80,000/month. That's like expecting someone who's won the lottery for to be a janitor.
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  15251.  @GrowMasterGeneral  poor people have asking for a living wage for decades. Not even to be middle class, just survive. I myself am poor and only desire to live. I do not care about owning a Lamborghini or Rolex.
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  15252.  @GrowMasterGeneral  I am a cashier, college student, and intern. At 28 years old. I live with/am financially supported by my parents. I have no job skills(career, college degree, trade certification) and no independence (driver's license, car, my own apartment or house). I'm not dying because I have my family to thank for that. As a cashier, I make $10.50/hr at 28 hours a week. As an intern, I make $15/hr at 4 hours a week. It is more expensive for me to have a job than not have one(at my current pay level). Cell phone bill, health insurance bill, and gas to/from work cost more than what I make. I certainly don't make enough to afford a car(car payment/insurance/gas) or 1 bedroom apartment. In other words, if I had to just pay bills off of what I make, I would be dead right now. And I don't work full-time because of a. School and b. I'm forced to work part-time by my boss to avoid me being eligible for benefits like health insurance. I cannot even afford clothes. Literally. A literal belt at Walmart costs more than $10.50. Shirts do too. I don't even need to mention jackets or watches. As far as opportunities, I've been doing a lot of self reflection about my life and place in society, and why I despise America so much. My plan is to increase finish my associate's degree, gain independence, and increase my skills. More specifically, I desire a scholarship (for tuition and basic living expenses), and to be both a physics professor and screenwriter. Me becoming a physics professor requires me working harder than I've ever done before and being self reliant. It also required many years of dedication and hard work. A university professor currently expects me(has given me a chance) to complete a pre calculus lab manual/textbook. Simply practice the problems and review the errors with him. He said if I am not willing to do that, I'll never become a physicist. As far as being a screenwriter, I started on this path a while back. I got into a screenwriting class, wrote a few stories, and even won a Screenwriting Competition. I need no education of any kind to continue pursuing screenwriting. Not to mention there is over $1 billion in Screenwriting grants available in the USA alone. So with enough hard work and dedication I could certainly master storytelling and be able to finance producing screenplays and even films.
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  15253. Ok
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  15254. Elliot rodger was rich.
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  15255. I'm poor incel, yes.
    1
  15256. Exactly.
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  15257. a catch 22. these rich people are idiots. imagine a criminal offering to either stab you to death or rape you to death..neither is a good fucking option.
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  15258. I'm crying laughing at this post
    1
  15259. I had to listen to that twice too I'm like wtf?
    1
  15260. Exactly
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  15261. It's sad
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  15262. it's called poverty. of the 330 million people in USA, 140 million are in poverty.
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  15263. At 30, after spending 12 years trying to earn a bachelor’s degree, I’m still stuck in a cycle of poverty. I had to rely on welfare and Medicaid while taking care of my sick mom, who was ill for six years before passing away. The stress of it all caused me to flunk out of school and lose my financial aid, and even though I appealed, it was denied. Losing Section 8 housing, food stamps, and my safety net left me homeless and starving, forced to depend on my dad just to survive. Now, without a car or access to work-study jobs, I can’t continue my education. Even if I get an associate’s degree, finishing a bachelor’s while still being poor would take over a decade. I feel like I lost both my mom and my 20s for nothing, and getting another supermarket job feels like admitting I’ve made no progress at all.
    1
  15264. Ceos have more leverage during salary negotiations.
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  15265. Correct.
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  15266. That's messed up.
    1
  15267.  @cmdr_liella  it's about priorities. Politicians don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
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  15268.  @cmdr_liella  I made $10.50/hr as a cashier. I was kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits. I received no pathway to promotion. I had no way to pay for college.
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  15269. ​ @misanthropyunhinged  exactly.
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  15270. ​@drunken eternal The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that they find unacceptable.
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  15271. Poverty exists because corporations need to control workers.
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  15272. My manager works 50-70 a week.
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  15273. Ok
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  15274. ​ @LeejaMiller wow!
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  15275. McDonald's could pay their cashiers $100,000 a year.
    1
  15276. $300k?
    1
  15277. LOL
    1
  15278. Yep
    1
  15279. I'd break up any company that grosses over $1 billion in annual sales.
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  15280. Why is it bad if they lose stakes in their company?
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  15281. Republicans want an underclass
    1
  15282. Times have changed.
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  15283. LOL.
    1
  15284. ​ @anunknownperson4018 LOL.
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  15285. You're right.
    1
  15286. Do temp jobs offer benefits?
    1
  15287. Yep
    1
  15288. That is an asinine belief.
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  15289. They generate billions yearly for their companies...the skill set is irrelevant.
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  15290.  @feedyourmind6713  i don't care about the skill of the job. If you work 40 hours a week you deserve a decent life.
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  15291.  @feedyourmind6713  skill is not the sole factor, or in some cases, any factor, in what determines the financial performance of any company.
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  15292. ​ @skillethead15 my replies are gone.
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  15293.  @Rowsy91  everyone is subsidized, but only poor people relying on welfare are seen as "takers." Upper class people get tax cuts, loan forgiveness, subsidies for their businesses and bailouts. Middle class people/home owners often get tax rate and mortgage interest rate deductions. Many college students are awarded grants and fellowships. None of these groups of people are seen as "takers or depending on the government too much." The disdain people have for poor people who use welfare is they believe they get nothing in exchange for helping the poor.
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  15294.  @Rowsy91  if a job is dead-end, undignified, and/or menial labor, I'd say relying on welfare is objectively better than working. And many disabled people rely on welfare because they're unable to work. They didn't choose to have disabilities. It'd be like me passing a law saying doctors must work for $7.25/hour, have no benefits, and never get promoted, but then I wonder why doctors quit in droves and call them lazy for not working anymore.
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  15295.  @Rowsy91  I see. I don't think my point is silly because as I've mentioned, some work isn't valuable, everyone cannot work, and comparative advantage. If I could receive a grant for $1 million a month, but my only options for work were $7-$11/hour jobs, would I take it? No. Why would I? Why would I willingly work and starve myself to death? All I'm saying is people need to understand there are good reasons to not work, which is why I don't believe people who do work are more important than people who don't work or can't.
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  15296. Yes!
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  15297. Aren't enough of those to go around. And nothing wrong with establishing a baseline.
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  15298. Exactly.
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  15299. ​ @cosmicllama6910  exactly
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  15300. ​ @BossItUp911 you're admitting poverty is a policy choice.
    1
  15301. ​ @YaBoiBond yep
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  15302. ​ @JamersBoy-c1b  it's just world fallacy
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  15303. ​ @ryanbon2414 some problems can't be overcome through hard work.
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  15304.  @runrafarunthebestintheworld  poor people are hard working. Most of them work full-time
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  15305. I'm twenty eight years old, i've only received snap in the past three years because of covid.
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  15306. ​ @brothermine2292 I can't neet that.
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  15307. That's messed up
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  15308. Yep
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  15309.  @B_Bodziak  wow
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  15310. Yep
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  15311. The reason conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage is because of morals: they believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors were demanding $15/hr the same politicians that oppose a $15/hr minimum wage now would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage then. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status.
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  15312. If they offered a full ride in college they'd never run out of applicants
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  15313. The Democrats won't remove the restrictions on welfare or make community college tuition free.
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  15314. HOW?!
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  15315. I go to school but won't leave the house. I'm 29. A virgin
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  15316.  @tazmanian1033  I'm taking walks once a week now. I'm working on getting a car so I can drive out to the library/comedy club/lakes. Having a car is what I really want
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  15317.  @tazmanian1033  yeah I'm poor, not rich. Unlike the incels of Andrew Tate, Trump and Elliot Rodger.
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  15318.  @tazmanian1033  what are they? Better than me?
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  15319. ​ @tazmanian1033  Ok I'm still a virgin at nearly thirty years old
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  15320. I see you see it as undeserving because the people are poor.
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  15321. You believe poor people aren't working aren't hard enough, you believe in just-world fallacy.
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  15322. He didn't want sex. He wanted control over women.
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  15323. That's messed up
    1
  15324. What does the left do?
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  15325. I'm a virgin at 29. I want to have sex and a girlfriend. Why must I work for it when women don't have to?
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  15326. I don't think that and I'm incel.
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  15327.  @TheDepository  i use dating apps... None of them work. Few matches. I've never gotten a single IRL interaction with any match.
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  15328.  @TheDepository  the women either A. Say nothing B. Advertise their onlyfans C. Say one or two things and then never text me again. However, when I looked at my former profile... 1. Poorly lit photos 2. I wasn't doing anything I have/in the bio listed: 1. No college education 2. No career 3. No skills training 4. No driver's license 5. No car 6. No place of my own 7. No interesting Hobbies(besides anime) 8. I'm not fat but i also don't exercise either All I've got to my name are I'm smart, kind, and funny.
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  15329.  @TheDepository  That was.... Beautiful. You're right. It's unfair to demand women be attractive when I myself have nothing to offer. I can't just be given affection and i certainly am not owed it.
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  15330.  @thatguyshanewhoyourefuseto1201  what isn't attractive?
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  15331. Wtf
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  15332. The problem with this is that many Republicans believe billionaires and corporations deserve government help.
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  15333. Politicians want to restrict medicaid in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  15334. Wow.
    1
  15335.  @eddiekulp1241  average is $2.7 million. Some get as high as $4 million. Chic fil a goes to $5.4 million.
    1
  15336. Because politicians prefer poverty over worker solidarity.
    1
  15337. ​ @scottgill2643  exactly.
    1
  15338. Correct.
    1
  15339. Republicans don't believe all workers deserve to be middle class.
    1
  15340. Nope.
    1
  15341. That's terrible.
    1
  15342. @B. M.  thank you for that. I was looking only into newest/most expensive cars.
    1
  15343. The debate over the minimum wage reveals USA loves poverty
    1
  15344.  @danir6695  why call them hand outs? That's derogatory.
    1
  15345.  @tiffanylwashington7412  yep. I make $10.50/hr. I wouldn't need $18 an hour to support myself, $60 an hour to support my family, $89 an hour to pay for college, and $151 an hour to get a house.
    1
  15346.  @danir6695  If you are paying taxes you're getting your tax dollars back. And if they don't make enough to survive and the government provides the money to make up the difference they did earn it.
    1
  15347.  @danir6695  it isn't free money, it's our tax dollars being invested. Just like tax dollars being spent on education or healthcare isn't a handout.
    1
  15348.  @danir6695  I do work. I do pay taxes. But at $10.50/hr that isn't enough to survive on my own.
    1
  15349.  @danir6695  ok. I wish I had a living wage in the first place to obviate the need for welfare.
    1
  15350.  @danir6695  okay cool I'm applying for grants and scholarships Because I'm in college. Plus I just completed a mathematics-physics internship. Now I'm gonna be doing a more advanced internship next semester. I ultimately desire a full ride scholarship and to be a paid screenwriter (which I can do without a college degree right now).
    1
  15351. Gotta force poor people to accept terrible conditions
    1
  15352. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    1
  15353. Exactly. I'm trying to improve my life but I'm still a loser.
    1
  15354. Conservatives hate welfare because it empowers poor people
    1
  15355. That's messed up.
    1
  15356. Now you're getting it
    1
  15357. The government believes poverty and motherhood are incompatible and that disabled people are a burden
    1
  15358. I'm 29
    1
  15359. Yep.
    1
  15360. i hope to lose my virginity before i'm 30
    1
  15361. Yep.
    1
  15362. Correct.
    1
  15363. But even if Medicaid covered everything, politicians would still gut Medicaid services.
    1
  15364. It's by design.
    1
  15365.  @gardenswithsoul  yes. The government hates poor people and disabled people. I want to run one day and fight this cruelty.
    1
  15366. Yep
    1
  15367. Wow
    1
  15368. ​ @justsomeguy6336 yep
    1
  15369. ​ @MarcillaSmith  A UBI will not be passed for the same reason living wage won't be: because such a policy empowers poor people
    1
  15370.  @MarcillaSmith  okay
    1
  15371. Exactly
    1
  15372. Which is why we don't have robust welfare support programs.
    1
  15373. ​@octobercountry3322 the reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  15374. ​ @Lowclasswarrior778  I'm incel yes
    1
  15375. Correct
    1
  15376. @Brian H I'm not rationalizing anything. I'm stating a fact that it requires money and time to start a business, it doesn't matter how i feel because my feelings don't matter when it comes to stating an obvious truth.
    1
  15377. @Brian H i also forgot to mention children, mental and/ or physical disabilities, criminal history also affect business success. As does market concentrations, technological limitations, and financialization. No one, especially not the poor, has control over any of these things.
    1
  15378. @Brian H you're ignoring everything I've said so this conversation is over.
    1
  15379. @Brian H Economics is harder than rocket science because rocket science is objective and has clear cut answers, where as economics does not. You can make predictions and test them and even know what will happen beforehand in rocket science, not possible in economics.
    1
  15380.  @MC-wh3xm  Hard work doesn't guarantee success. Luck drives both success and failure, even more than hard work, and poverty is the lack of financial freedom.
    1
  15381. Who is luille bluth?
    1
  15382. ​ @ThePoodle yep
    1
  15383. Yes
    1
  15384.  @gjdewald  okay
    1
  15385. the problem with your line of thinking is that many americans believe poor people don't deserve government assistance.
    1
  15386. Automation is an acceptable risk
    1
  15387.  @derpmansderpyskin  the usa prints its own currency. We just pretend we can't when it comes to spending money on poor people.
    1
  15388. Biden isn't doing enough.
    1
  15389.  @imaro2358  he can do both at once. Federal loans can be given to universities that provide a certain amount of tuition. Thereby capping costs.
    1
  15390.  @cynthiareeder4048  poor people don't vote
    1
  15391. ​ @cynthiareeder4048 yes
    1
  15392. And for $7.25 an hour.
    1
  15393. Yep.
    1
  15394. ​ @cookiebatter162 ok I'll grow up
    1
  15395. That's the point: republicans don't want to end poverty. They welfare for three reasons 1. Republicans oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. 3. Republicans are heartless
    1
  15396. ​ @SonicBoomC98 republicans don't want to end poverty.
    1
  15397. ​ @SonicBoomC98 you're trolling
    1
  15398. @SonicBoomC98  Yes, it's evil. It implies you need to work to be motivated to escape poverty - as if people want to be in poverty in the first place.
    1
  15399. @SonicBoomC98  actions speak louder than words. Republicans refuse to implement robust welfare programs. That alone shows their own values. The reason welfare isn't robust is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. No doctor would work for $10/hr. But there are millions of people who do. Why? Without a safety net to fall back on, they're forced to accept shitty jobs.
    1
  15400. Yep.
    1
  15401. That's fine according to Trump because he views disabled people as a burden
    1
  15402.  @clpasztor  I don't. I don't see the disabled as a burden. But I'm poor and can't run for office
    1
  15403. I'm too poor to have a tv show
    1
  15404. Just-world fallacy: those people believe rich people and corporations deserve welfare but poor people don't
    1
  15405. That's a bad business model.
    1
  15406. What makes a man a loser?
    1
  15407.  @indoorphine  okay. I consider myself a man, even though I'm a virgin at nearly 30. Plus, I've been called a loser for other reasons, such as not being independent.
    1
  15408.  @indoorphine  okay.
    1
  15409.  @indoorphine  I'm a real human. I'm just trying to leave my incel identity behind.
    1
  15410. ​ @nicholasnaseef1395 states can do that, yes.
    1
  15411. $6?
    1
  15412. Rich people disgust me.
    1
  15413. Wage slaves trapped in dead-end jobs
    1
  15414. They look down on unskilled workers
    1
  15415.  @Dan0TheMano  i hate usa.
    1
  15416.  @Dan0TheMano  it's crazy we can give women freedom but not the poor.
    1
  15417. Correct.
    1
  15418. Exactly.
    1
  15419. Yep
    1
  15420.  @richardodonoghue  exactly
    1
  15421.  @jsebby2284  I don't know about other countries. But in this one- yes, poverty is a policy choice.
    1
  15422.  @jsebby2284  I'm not speaking for other countries, only USA.
    1
  15423. Yep.
    1
  15424. Poverty is a policy choice
    1
  15425. Except corporations, politicians, and rich people don't want poverty to end.
    1
  15426. ​ @PragueImport worse
    1
  15427. hi
    1
  15428. Because politicians and business leaders are presented with a very simple choice: you can have poverty exist in America, or you can have worker solidarity, but you can not have both. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our government and corporations see as the risk they refuse to allow.
    1
  15429. That's so fucked up.
    1
  15430. It's about priorities.
    1
  15431.  @lordmortarius538  yes.
    1
  15432.  @lordmortarius538  I got free lunches anyway as a McDonald's worker.
    1
  15433.  @lordmortarius538  I'd ask for $1,000,000 to pursue college.
    1
  15434. I have to rely on charity in order to get a car so I can travel to community college campus.
    1
  15435. ​ @johnsondoeboy2772 I don't have a car at 29 years old
    1
  15436. Yes.
    1
  15437. That's messed up.
    1
  15438. I'd love to be rich.
    1
  15439.  @Domzdream  yes.
    1
  15440.  @Domzdream  yep.
    1
  15441. Yep
    1
  15442. Yep
    1
  15443. ​ @R4t_P4ck exactly. This dude forgot healthcare, transportation, food, utilities,.. We have inflation making all of those unaffordable to minimum wage workers.
    1
  15444. Ok
    1
  15445. Scarcity sucks
    1
  15446. Exactly. The video is making it seem like she got a $2 million check.
    1
  15447. So after all this time they STILL don't want to pay their workers?
    1
  15448. Mandate higher profit sharing
    1
  15449. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
    1
  15450. ​@Z minimum wage workers are not doctors, they have no bargaining power.
    1
  15451. Yep
    1
  15452. Lol
    1
  15453. Yes
    1
  15454. ​ @babywah3290 thank you
    1
  15455. Poverty is a policy choice
    1
  15456. I make $10/ hr.
    1
  15457. Because people tie value to work. And Because of just-world fallacy
    1
  15458. It's called Calvinism
    1
  15459. Ah
    1
  15460. Puts things into perspective
    1
  15461. That's messed up.
    1
  15462. That has been abolished since the 70s.
    1
  15463. $1200?? That's it??
    1
  15464. Scott Manley, would you go to the Moon if the only way to do it was on a nuclear rocket?
    1
  15465. ​ @QWERTY-gp8fd ok
    1
  15466. I did the math. Even if you worked 100 hours a week you'd make $15,000 a year roughly even with overtime laws.
    1
  15467. ​ @dipdip907 LOL
    1
  15468. I cried reading this.
    1
  15469. Yep
    1
  15470. Correct
    1
  15471. But he's rich
    1
  15472. Politicians despise worker solidarity, not continued poverty.
    1
  15473. Yep
    1
  15474. Exactly. With the 15 trillion poured into the global financial sector I'm surprised that we haven't increased the wealth of the average person to where people can pay off homes in 3 years.....
    1
  15475. ​ @shigshug8581 yep
    1
  15476. ​ @shigshug8581 It's why I don't vote.
    1
  15477. Okay then​ @petedawg 
    1
  15478. I'm happy for him, man.
    1
  15479. What's a loser?
    1
  15480. Yep.
    1
  15481. If you're poor, then yes.
    1
  15482. Yes
    1
  15483. When rich people say "welfare makes people lazy," what they're really saying is the incentive that poor people have to do low wage jobs when the wages earned therefrom are smaller than the income grant.
    1
  15484. Epic.
    1
  15485. After six years, I'm still a virgin at 29. I'm lazy and make excuses
    1
  15486. It's women's fault I don't have sex
    1
  15487. Yep
    1
  15488. My self-esteem is higher now but I'm still poor.
    1
  15489. Because capitalism requires poverty to work.
    1
  15490. Myth of meritocracy.
    1
  15491. It's called just-world fallacy
    1
  15492. It is indeed too much money in conservatives people's eyes. Conservatives have this just world fallacy. They believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn. the pain of poverty that these politicians force these workers to experience "should" motivate them to strive for better and acquire the skills which will match up with the wage they're demanding.
    1
  15493. That's messed up.
    1
  15494. I'll make a video on it.
    1
  15495.  @matthewfusaro2590  I just want $127k minimum salary.
    1
  15496. Corporations stupidity knows no bounds, doesn't it?
    1
  15497. So the government could fund free college, Medicare for all, etc?
    1
  15498. They oppose reducing poverty.
    1
  15499. You're right
    1
  15500. I'm still a virgin
    1
  15501. Yep
    1
  15502. Yep.
    1
  15503. I've accepted responsibility for my own short comings but I'm still failing at having sex.
    1
  15504. Yay!
    1
  15505. Don't you realize it yet? Politicians / The Rich treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable. Employees and employers don't want the same thing, and employers want to have all of the power and all of the decision making capabilities when it comes to everything. Because no one in their right mind would take a minimum wage job, with no benefits, no career advancement, no job security, and no job loyalty.
    1
  15506. Because the point is to force poor people out of school
    1
  15507. ​ @sombrachibi yep
    1
  15508. I'm poor and i don't vote because poor people are ignored in politics.
    1
  15509. That's messed up.
    1
  15510. I consider myself incel.
    1
  15511. Yes
    1
  15512. The poor. Not the rich.
    1
  15513. Yep. I'm a very poor and self supporting college student. I'm at community college now, I lost pell grants. I can't afford tuition or living expenses working minimum wage. And internships pay $900/semester. Federal work study pays $13-$16/hr at 20 hours a week. I simply cannot afford college without a scholarship.
    1
  15514.  @gamergal8220  migrants aren't the problem, corporations are the problem.
    1
  15515. Wow ​ @StefanMedici 
    1
  15516. LOL.
    1
  15517. LOL.
    1
  15518. It's about prioritization.
    1
  15519.  @michaelb.8754  it's messed up.
    1
  15520.  B  correct
    1
  15521. I want to lose my vcard, though. I'm 29 I have not kissed a woman either.
    1
  15522. What do I do?
    1
  15523. $4.25? How is that legal?
    1
  15524. Actually. So cashiers don't get benefits
    1
  15525. I don't believe this
    1
  15526. There are already work requirements
    1
  15527. Ok
    1
  15528. ​wow
    1
  15529. Wow.
    1
  15530. ​​​ @C-gt42069  being a barista is a dead-end job that gives you no skills. The job doesn't increase your skills or wage no matter how long someone is employed there.
    1
  15531. You're right. I'm accepting blame.
    1
  15532.  @jasperjudd  do you think I can lose my virginity without using a hooker?
    1
  15533.  @passerby157  why do you think politicians enjoy poverty? I mean even presidents do....
    1
  15534. Prostitution doesn't cure my inceldom. A hooker doesn't like me, plus most men don't need to pay for sex. That makes twice as a big of a loser stooping that low.
    1
  15535. I cry.
    1
  15536. Yep.
    1
  15537. They do
    1
  15538. Republicans don't care about the cost. They're willing to pay more as long as they get to see people they don't like suffer. They dislike the poor and minorities.
    1
  15539. Ok
    1
  15540. It's called survivorship bias
    1
  15541. Yes. That's messed up.
    1
  15542. Yep. I'm poor
    1
  15543. I can't tell if you're serious or joking.
    1
  15544.  @chachaguillotine187  Hahaha.
    1
  15545. Based on welfare reform, I'm positive many Republicans believe poor women don't have a right to have children.
    1
  15546. "BuT IT's aN eNtRy LeVeL jOb."
    1
  15547. I'm a virgin
    1
  15548. ​ @Chesside what's that?
    1
  15549. No.
    1
  15550. ​ @2007NissanAltima  no. That's means testing.
    1
  15551. Because they lose more in benefits than what they can earn from working.
    1
  15552.  @JK-gu3tl  ok.
    1
  15553. Most Incels like myself are broke and can't afford a prostitute.
    1
  15554. Ok
    1
  15555. These rich people can't imagine being poor.
    1
  15556. I'm proof of a man having 0 Standards but still being incel.
    1
  15557.  @MrDavidCollins  idk why women refuse to sleep with me.
    1
  15558. Yep
    1
  15559.  @Dennis-nc3vw  just-world fallacy.
    1
  15560. Because politicians themselves are not poor.
    1
  15561. Sounds cool.
    1
  15562. Lol.
    1
  15563. Inflation is a risk.
    1
  15564. Because many people believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
    1
  15565.  @caveslug-t2k  wow.
    1
  15566.  @imnotmike  $45/hr.
    1
  15567. ​ @lukewright9031 exactly
    1
  15568. Most incels are too poor to afford hookers and the affection is fake.
    1
  15569. And fox news still gets views.
    1
  15570. Corporations are greedy.
    1
  15571. ​ @alexcampbell4297  Exactly. Thank you for speaking up for me. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier. $900/semester.
    1
  15572. I'm on medicaid. Most doctors don't take it and I have to wait months for appointments.
    1
  15573.  @drakestryker5154  I know Medicaid pays insufficiently, but that is not for me to blame, Republicans in my state make medicaid insufficient so that poor people are forced into low wage jobs.
    1
  15574. @drakestryker5154  LOL. that's crazy. Hey, I got sick of limited doctors for eyeglasses so after I got a vision exam, my dad bought me glasses on this site called Zenni optical. They were less than $200!! At America best the same pair costed $400, and at LensCrafters $700!! I learned that private insurance drives up costs for care directly and only makes more money compared to Medicaid precisely because they refuse to treat poor people.
    1
  15575. @dustin2269  they don't afford or pay for public schools. And my state of NC just siphoned over $200 million from public schools to try to force children into private schools. There is no way poor people can afford private schools on their own without state support.
    1
  15576. @MayMay-qr1yc  exactly
    1
  15577.  @MayMay-qr1yc  that's messed up. I'm pretty sure this also explains abortion and welfare too.. Many Americans believe poor people shouldn't reproduce/fornicate and should have a "baby blocker."
    1
  15578. @painkillerjones6232  why shouldn't they?
    1
  15579.  @painkillerjones6232  i would understand. Explain it to me
    1
  15580.  @Rocanala  that's evil
    1
  15581.  @patevans3709  okay
    1
  15582.  @WillowEtain  so you agree it's about priorities?
    1
  15583. @barbaraeslick558  Unfortunately, all the restrictions on government aid do NOT apply to the rich. I'm venting, but there are restrictions on government aid for poor people such as myself. It's why, despite receiving a $3,000 grant per semester for last 3 semesters, (enough to take 12-14 classes), I only took 4. Because 1. Didn't cover my living expenses 2. $3k wouldn't have covered my mom's medical expenses 3. Not enough to cover housing for a family of 5(not in low income housing).
    1
  15584.  @Dennis-nc3vw  they're already easily bribed and oppose policies which most Americans support.
    1
  15585.  @Dennis-nc3vw  paid based on stress? Poverty doesn't cause stress??
    1
  15586. Requires a shift in our political values. Won't happen.
    1
  15587. Just-world fallacy.
    1
  15588. Yep
    1
  15589. You're incorrect. They KNOW 30k is poverty. The thing is they don't believe minimum wage workers deserve to be middle class.
    1
  15590. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty.
    1
  15591.  @catholicfemininity2126  communism is better than capitalism.
    1
  15592. 7 figure.
    1
  15593. We're living in the matrix but can't escape.
    1
  15594. you're saying you're more upset or not having cheap prices than workers having a living wage.
    1
  15595.  @SuperCitizen  all priorities are not created equal. Certain things we must deem intolerable. If you truly deem continued poverty of minimum wage workers intolerable, then you must accept that cheap prices have to go. Businesses base their services on providing cheap labor.
    1
  15596. Holy crap
    1
  15597. There are not enough scholarships to help everyone. I'm going to a community college with 71,000 students and only 428 scholarship awards. Only 2,000 people even applied. I applied twice and won nothing, I'm stuck at community college with no way up or out.
    1
  15598. Yes
    1
  15599. Yep
    1
  15600. Rofl
    1
  15601. Rich people think in salary
    1
  15602. Capitalists oppose UBI because it empowers workers.
    1
  15603. Yep.
    1
  15604. Exactly.
    1
  15605. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
    1
  15606. Because the government views the disabled as a burden
    1
  15607.  @xpenzif64  lol you're an idiot.
    1
  15608. Republicans want poverty to persist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  15609. ​ @fortheloveofnoise yep.
    1
  15610. Ok
    1
  15611. If it was just about money, then yes. Except many Republican politicians want poor people to have to "earn" government assistance.
    1
  15612. I can't see my replies
    1
  15613. Exactly.
    1
  15614. I agree.
    1
  15615. As an incel myself, I desire to lose my virginity, I have no standards for women.
    1
  15616. @erinmac4750  epic. Thank you for the help. My Goals are 1. Job 2. Own the car gifted to me 3. Get my driver's license My school goals are 1. Earn enough scholarships to finish community college 2. Finish math lab manual 3.speed up my degree progress I'm poor now. But I believe with enough hard work, I will have everything I want in life. I won't give up on having a girlfriend.
    1
  15617.  @erinmac4750  do I seem incel?
    1
  15618. Wow
    1
  15619. Mainstream media doesn't focus on the poor and disabled.
    1
  15620. Or corporations can switch profit sharing to pay employees and minimum wage workers would make far more.
    1
  15621. ​@Amos Soma fast food and retail stores do not. Otherwise, cashiers at places like Chic Fil A would be making around $100,000/yr.
    1
  15622. Republicans want poverty
    1
  15623.  @Gregorypeckory  actually you're wrong. What politicians are doing is LOBBYING. lobbying is legal where as bribery is not.
    1
  15624.  @robertcox433  I don't hate rich people but with 120 million it's easy to raise the minimum wage to 15/hr in 11 years. Pelosi isn't affected by minimum wage.
    1
  15625.  @robertcox433  part of me wishes i had it in me to become a politician to change things. But everyone is too corrupt.
    1
  15626.  @Gregorypeckory  but legality has nothing to do with it. It's like drugs or alcohol or prostitution, people willl pursue what they want regardless of legality. IF politicians truly cared about the poor they would reject all campaign contributions and help the poor like they always say they will do.
    1
  15627.  @Gregorypeckory  the policies most Americans support is aimed at helping the poor, so I don't know what you're talking about. Progressives base their policies around helping the poor.
    1
  15628.  @Gregorypeckory  Rejecting funding isn't absurd since politicians don't need anything other than their platform to put forth their ideas. Yes it does help the poor because politicians, none of them are poor themselves. Hence why they do nothing to raise minimum wage, provide free college, etc. Because they've got decent pay and education themselves.
    1
  15629.  @Gregorypeckory  most Americans are poor so choosing to help them is a winning message.
    1
  15630. Yep.
    1
  15631. I'm changing
    1
  15632. ​ @Vexarax  ok
    1
  15633.  @iamcosma7065  in some places you couldn't.
    1
  15634.  @iamcosma7065  considering how much healthcare and housing is, yeah 90k a year isn't enough. Don't get me started on college costs
    1
  15635. I'm a kissless virgin at 29. I want to lose my virginity.
    1
  15636. ​ @am4793 not me
    1
  15637. I'm still a virgin two years later
    1
  15638. ​ @tylerferrand8786 exactly.
    1
  15639. Epic.
    1
  15640. Because conservatives believe in just world fallacy. If they were to admit the system is the problem like you just did, it is implying that individual effort does not matter.
    1
  15641. And to my second point they believe that you make what you deserve.
    1
  15642. $53/hr.
    1
  15643. Exactly.
    1
  15644. Will not*
    1
  15645. Yep
    1
  15646. If you taxed corporations 6x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits, things would change in a hurry.
    1
  15647. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  15648. ​ @CheapFlashyLoris terrible
    1
  15649.  @nomore6167  exactly.
    1
  15650. ​ @grychnel that's messed up
    1
  15651. Wrong. The truth is that conservatives view rich people and business owners as having "succeeded" in "the system that works," so when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. Whereas poor people have "failed," so any government help they receive is a "hand out."
    1
  15652. Do you support or oppose AA?
    1
  15653. ​ @Joe-- but race still matters whether the Supreme Court acknowledges it or not. It's like outlawing gambling, assuming it'll never happen again.
    1
  15654. @Joe-ki1wh  people can and still discriminate based on race, or factors influenced by race and segregation. You can't fully isolate that from somebody. Any more than outlawing discrimination based on sex/gender means that the person you're evaluating was never affected by sex/ gender based discrimination, or that being male/man doesn't influence any male at all.
    1
  15655. THANK YOU​ @jackd6881 
    1
  15656. ​ @xSilentZeroXx  1. Poor people don't need to be forced to work 2. Getting a job doesn't guarantee you getting health insurance.
    1
  15657. ​ @xSilentZeroXx you are sick in the head to see poor people as undeserving
    1
  15658. Won't help.
    1
  15659. I don't want to lose my virginity to someone who doesn't like me.
    1
  15660. Extremely poor.
    1
  15661. I'm facing that in my city. Noone can afford rent and homes are over $450k+. I can't afford a $500k house's mortgage even with 0% interest. Not even making $30/hr.
    1
  15662. Correct
    1
  15663. That's sad
    1
  15664. Trade school isn't often enough.
    1
  15665. Inflation is an acceptable risk.
    1
  15666.  @charlesan4888  the truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. Inflation, unemployment, automation are terrible and are risks yes, but so is working and being in poverty. If empowering poor people means taking the risk that prices rise, then so be it.
    1
  15667.  @charlesan4888  Just like in economics, in ideology, all priorities are not created equal. We must deem certain things intolerable. You're more bothered by inflation and businesses shutting down than abolishing the conditions of the working poor. If working and being in poverty was intolerable to you then it wouldn't matter if 85% of businesses go bankrupt and the remaining 15% invest more in outsourcing to compensate for livable wages being enforced. If that's the price we as a society must pay, then so be it.
    1
  15668. LOL.
    1
  15669. Incels feel entitled to have sex provided to them by the women that they choose. Since the women they want "should" be providing sex for free incels see no reason to work to make themselves more attractive and they certainly would not pay for it.
    1
  15670. ​ @rridderbusch518 less with benefits
    1
  15671. ​ @Apollyon67 yep.
    1
  15672. Yep
    1
  15673. Exactly.
    1
  15674. ​ @joshuabarnes7552  I see he was lying by omission LOL.
    1
  15675. Yep.
    1
  15676. Prostitutes don't offer genuine affection, so they will not help me. Plus, I'm broke anyway.
    1
  15677. My standards for women are 0 but I'm still a virgin.
    1
  15678. @JesusTheProphet  the bigger problem is I'm broke. Using prostitution is a felony in my state, too. But those are barriers that anyone can overcome by going to Las vegas.
    1
  15679.  @daganbanks  I guess it is a mental issue. No woman would be a prostitute if she was rich. Don't you agree with that?
    1
  15680. @Rose  yes. No. The problem is me, and I am working on fixing it. There are countless events and clubs for me to join. The problem is two-fold. One, I have no driver's license or car. Two, I'm broke. My occupation is a cashier, and you can probably guess I don't make a lot...$10.50/hr. I have seen my pay stubs. I made $46 per shift. When I took my brother to the movie with me, I spent $77 that day. $32 on tickets, $45 on food. In other words, my minimum wage job doesn't pay enough to do something as simple as going to the movies.....at All, let alone on a regular basis.
    1
  15681. @Rose  no. It's an enormous city. Trust me. Like, over 300k people. Thousands of events every year. Endless sports and groups. I don't have a DL because I can't afford one(working minimum wage). I'm conflicted on what job I should work to afford a cheap car. I just know I have to make a decision very soon.
    1
  15682.  @Rose-lj7uh  yes. I noticed people at the supermarket I work at tell me that daily. Covid has stunted people's social growth. It's not just me. (They also complain about housing prices).
    1
  15683.  @daganbanks  I got a learner's permit now.
    1
  15684.  @daganbanks  you need insurance for a driver's license. I think I'll purchase non owner's liability insurance. I can afford that easily.
    1
  15685.  @Rose-lj7uh  I've met lots of ladies as a cashier at a supermarket. I'll ask them out on a date next time.
    1
  15686.  @Rose-lj7uh  when I go to work, I'll ask women out on a date. And conversate. The worst they could say is no.
    1
  15687. LOL.
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  15688. Ironically $60k with a 5% annual inflation rate over 40 years is $422k.
    1
  15689. So if pay kept up with even modest inflation 400k would be middle class now.
    1
  15690. that's messed up. @obiwanjebroni505 
    1
  15691. Exactly
    1
  15692. Business owners don't want poverty to end.
    1
  15693. Because politicians treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  15694. Would you be happy if a low income student got a $21 million scholarship?
    1
  15695.  @stryfespoint304  are you serious? It wouldn't upset you if they all got a full ride?
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  15696. I agree with you. I'm just upset that whenever money is spent on poor people we complain but not when it's spent to help the rich.
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  15697. I'm a virgin incel at 28. Women don't express interest in me
    1
  15698. I've been trying for 7 years to no avail.
    1
  15699. Wow
    1
  15700. Why?
    1
  15701. Correct.
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  15702. Do you believe women deserve to vote?
    1
  15703. Not everyone can increase their skills.
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  15704. @xq8152  college isn't affordable to everyone. Trade certifications cannot be obtained by everyone.
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  15705. Yep. In my state of North carolina, once I turned twenty-six, I lost medicaid and all other welfare.
    1
  15706. I'm 28 years old and poor, but because I have no kids or disabilities. I'm ineligible for welfare.
    1
  15707. Still costs money, even with financial aid. And you might still need a bachelor's degree.
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  15708.  @Kyriecat12  I'm applying for scholarships and grants
    1
  15709.  @Kyriecat12  some people have no choice but to take out loans
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  15710.  @Kyriecat12  You believe this? You believe everyone could afford college without loans?
    1
  15711.  @Kyriecat12  my replies are gone. But I asked do you truly believe everyone can go to college without loans?
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  15712. ​ @Kyriecat12  Thank you for your advice and help. To summarize my life/passion for student loan forgiveness 1. I flunked out of community college when I was 18-19, because I was living in a poor, high stress home (2014-2015) 2. I worked minimum wage jobs (2016) 3. My mom became terminally ill, and got sicker with each passing year, with no hope of saving her(2016-2023). I helped take care of her 4. She passed away (March 11th, 2023) 5. I was able to improve my grades, do an internship, get a B in a four year university class 6. Now, at 29, I making up for the lost time I spent taking care of my mom 7. It is painful being 10 years behind in life, even more painful when being told I should've let my mom die
    1
  15713. ​ @Kyriecat12 here we go again with me not being able to see my replies. I posted a lot. But to summarize, I have decided to make sacrifices- mainly to apply for scholarships and grants to go to school.(I've won some already, but not a full ride) I desire a full ride grant, I wish I had one when I was younger and I would've been able to take care of my mom better, or maybe even prevent her from having gotten sick. I regret her being gone everyday. I wanted to have my degree and mom, I was forced to choose between one or the other, and now I have neither. Life isn't fair, but I don't want to give up. I don't care if I have to be on more welfare, I want this degree.
    1
  15714. I'm sorry you went through that My replies are gone and I get so angry​ @Kyriecat12 
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  15715. Ok. What do you think of my situation and choices? I made mistakes. ​ @Kyriecat12 
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  15716. ​ @Kyriecat12 thanks for your input. I hope you enjoyed mine.
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  15717. My reply has been deleted AGAIN.
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  15718. everyone can't do that. education is an investment, not some drain.
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  15719. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty.
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  15720. A prostitute solves nothing because paying for sex invalidates the experience. I don't want a woman to sleep with me. I want a woman to like me.
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  15721. It exists this way by design. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  15722. This made me cry
    1
  15723. Exactly.
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  15724.  @markbriten6999  moral luck makes success a lottery
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  15725.  @boneappleteeth3127  businesses should be mandated to offer a living wage and benefits.
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  15726.  @dmwalker24  to pass the very laws needed to limit politicians and corporations..you need politicians and corporations, hence a catch 22. they would never be poor or imprisoned themselves.
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  15727.  @dmwalker24  a direct democracy would work... But to implement on a federal level requires amending the constitution.
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  15728. Ok?
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  15729.  @HollyJokerst  of course Poor people like myself have empathy and would enact change, but can't afford to run for office
    1
  15730. Yep
    1
  15731. Because it isn't about logic
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  15732. They do yes.
    1
  15733. Correct.
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  15734. Lol
    1
  15735. I'll add onto that. We are going to tax corporations 3 to 6 times the amount their employees use in welfare benefits. This would be in addition to all of the other taxes they already have to pay. So Walmart would have to pay 6 * 6 or $36 billion in additional taxes every year. I'm going to tack on another 4 billion dollars for pain and suffering.
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  15736. The real reason work requirements exist is to force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs.
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  15737. Yes
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  15738. Inflation is a real risk
    1
  15739. wrong. @leobigelow7021 
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  15740. Because poor people can't afford to run for office
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  15741. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  15742. Beautiful.
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  15743. Yep. I'm poor and miserable. Making $10.50/hr is fine of movie tickets were $0.25, not $25. If cars were $3,000, not $45,000.
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  15744. Yep.
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  15745. And no practical upper limits were placed on corporate mergers and acquisitions. Don't even me get started on at will employment, right to work, and lack of benefits.
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  15746. I'm an incel.
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  15747. Conservatives believe in just-world fallacy. They refuse to acknowledge systemic problems.
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  15748. Stepping stone- not everyone can be promoted
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  15749. ​ @evansageser6943  Politicians assign value to people on whether or not they work. In their eyes, if you don't work, you have no value.
    1
  15750. Yep.
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  15751.  @esquared452  yep.
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  15752. Beautiful to read.
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  15753.  @jw7075  that's crazy
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  15754. Yep
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  15755. reading this makes me cry.
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  15756.  @om7541  don't debate him. He fundamentally believes unskilled workers don't deserve a living wage it has nothing to do with the business expense
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  15757. No No Not at all
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  15758. Politicians serve the rich and corporations.
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  15759. You can't force women to not have kids
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  15760.  @BladeoftheImmortal2005  I don't vote at all.
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  15761.  @oscarlavista7677  complaining that my vote doesn't matter
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  15762. ​ @Roxor128 I see.
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  15763.  @kaoko111  crowder hates the poor.
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  15764. Exactly
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  15765. Nice.
    1
  15766. ​ @scottgrohs5940  yep
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  15767. You're correct
    1
  15768. Correct
    1
  15769. ​@user-od5fh3gn4dI want women. Prostitution won't help me.
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  15770. Push up, not pull down.
    1
  15771. ​ @samspade9838 says who?
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  15772. Stop blaming poor people
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  15773.  @Hello-pl2qe  okay But poor people aren't the problem here it's greedy corporations
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  15774. Ok I read all that. I'm an incel virgin. But I desperately want to lose my virginity. How can I avoid blaming women? My standards are zero.
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  15775. People are motivated to work, just not for slave wages.
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  15776. @chrishakala528  the only reason the government should subsidize the mother is if there isn't affordable child care.
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  15777.  @KeekeOrb  i don't know how to get through to these people. They literally want minimum wage workers to suffer from poverty. Also, Republicans hate welfare for two reasons 1. The ideological reason is because they oppose policies which pull people of poverty and create a middle class 2. The economic reason is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  15778. I don't hate women. I hate myself.
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  15779. No. Negative energy doesn't exist. Dark matter has positive energy, if it had negative gravitational energy it would have the opposite effect on Galaxies, galaxies would rip apart instead of being clustered together. Also, dark matter has the same magnitude of gravity as regular matter, so you would need the same amount of dark matter to produce gravity as regular matter. Actually, you would need more, because Dark Matter cannot radiate away the gravitational energy it possesses, and thus cannot undergo gravitational collapse( To Form compact powerful gravitational fields). Dark energy has a positive energy but negative pressure, because it's positive energy density is constant as space expands negative pressure is produced and overwhelms mthe gravitational attraction between Dark Energy fields.
    1
  15780. And the energy density of dark matter and dark energy is so low that it is nowhere near strong enough to be used as the gravitational fields needed to create wormholes. It is also not known if the energy density these materials possesses is constant or variable, and even if they were there's no way to control either because they only interact gravitationally and gravity is too weak of a force to detect on the subatomic scale. Thus, particle detectors cannot look for Dark Matter directly.
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  15781. You are correct
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  15782.  @TheBighatter  wages could be higher still. There are no trade-offs with a $15 minimum wage.
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  15783. That's the problem. Poor people won't work minimum wage jobs if educated.
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  15784. @dannywindham3295  no I'm saying why republicans oppose free college is because they want to poor force people to be wage slaves.
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  15785.  @dannywindham3295  I'll read about it. How would you feel if I won scholarships and grants? Even $4.5 million worth?
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  15786. ​ @Alex-qh5wn many people look down on minimum wage workers.
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  15787.  @Alex-qh5wn  I agree with you. What I meant to say was the real opposition to a living wage and unions is many people think fast food workers are worthless/below human.
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  15788. Correct. Walmart is happy.
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  15789. Yep
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  15790. He never does that.
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  15791. It's all to ensure there are desperate people who will do society's dirty work and make the rich have easy lives
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  15792. They can't. It's why USA spends $1.3 trillion a year on anti poverty programs. And why there's over $2 trillion in consumer debt. Almost everyone in this country that is not a millionaire or billionaire is either using a loan, using an anti-poverty program, or both.
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  15793. Because Congress people love poverty existing.
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  15794. ​@Gerard Whittey that's messed up.
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  15795. Republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class
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  15796. So you were screwed either way?
    1
  15797. They make millions yearly.
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  15798. I support Starbucks and writers strikes. Worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once. The truth of our values lies in the risk we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our business leaders find unacceptable.
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  15799. What you're saying is it's more important to mitigate the risk of unemployment than ensure livable wages.
    1
  15800. ​ @justsomeguy6336 if ensuring livable wages was the top priority, then magnified unemployment would be a price you're willing to pay
    1
  15801. ​ @xEnder515 it is for many people
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  15802. ​ @justsomeguy6336 what isn't possible?
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  15803. I don't understand. Involuntary means you CANNOT get laid. It is AGAINST your will.
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  15804. If I could "voluntarily" get laid I wouldn't be a virgin.
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  15805. ​ @seanm8665 I see. So I'm not really incel, just a virgin.
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  15806. Yep. I'm poor. But past 25, with no kids or disabilities, thus ineligible for welfare.
    1
  15807. Trump believes poor people and disabled people don't deserve welfare or education.
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  15808. The problem with this line of thinking is the government only views poor mothers as undeserving of having children, not poor fathers. Politicians believe women don't have reproductive rights.
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  15809. ​ @JewTube001 don't means test
    1
  15810. ​@JewTube001 a GMI gives poor people too much bargaining power.
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  15811. Corporations want to depress wages and exert control, but hatred for the poor and immigrants blind Americans to Corporations.
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  15812. ​ @ME-xc1st wow.
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  15813. @Sandra Stone you agree with my comment?
    1
  15814. @Sandra Stone they're all crooks
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  15815. @Sandra Stone ok.
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  15816. @Sandra Stone I disagree with you because poverty exists. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy decision not a law of nature like gravity.
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  15817.  @phu5005  That's crazy.
    1
  15818. Yep.
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  15819. I work as a cashier at a grocery store after 6 months of working I got a raise for my $10 an hour. You know what my raise was? 50 cents. In the boss told me it was 50 cents like he was doing me a favor. He rejected me making 17 an hour and joked I'll never make 20 an hour. So basically he's admitting I'll always make a poverty wage.
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  15820. This is on top of the fact I'm forced to be part-time so I am not eligible for benefits.
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  15821. Ok
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  15822. Then you're more concerned with cheap prices than with paying livable wages
    1
  15823.  @squirlz333  politics is about making choices, specifically choices based on where we draw the line. The real test of our values is based on the risks we're not willing to take, the costs we're not willing to pay. If inflation poses a real risk, and you're not willing to take it, then you're not willing to change. You deem the creation of a society where only livable wages exist intolerable.
    1
  15824. ​ @squirlz333 ok
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  15825. He's a petulant child. Like most rich people.
    1
  15826. I agree.
    1
  15827. The government kept prices low for a while
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  15828. Lol.
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  15829. Yes that can happen but politicians don't believe minimum wage workers deserve a living wage. So they wouldn't even propose that.
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  15830. That's a choice to believe that. And beliefs can change.
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  15831. Yep.
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  15832. You're misunderstanding conservatives, they oppose a living wage minimum wage as a moral issue: their ethical code says it's unfair to pay lazy / unskilled people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They believe the pain that these people experience by being in poverty will motivate them to get the skills that will make them worthy of a living wage. And in their eyes they believe that everyone can get a living wage job if they simply try hard enough- which is a classic example of just-world fallacy.
    1
  15833. ​ @berntreynoldz yep
    1
  15834. ​ @berntreynoldz yep
    1
  15835. ​ @berntreynoldz yep
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  15836. All of those men have skills, independence, and immense wealth. Tate is worth $350 million. Most incels have 0/3. Such as myself.
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  15837. @Kitty CatsWhiskers  I'm loved by many people. Although none of it is romantic.
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  15838. @Kitty CatsWhiskers  you're right. Sorry I'm making excuses and hating women. I've just been lazy. Truthfully, I don't want to be lonely, and me using a hooker won't stop my loneliness. A caring relationship solves loneliness, which requires risk and work to achieve.
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  15839.  @kittycatswhiskers  yes. I want to live my life. I don't want to die lonely.
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  15840. Correct.
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  15841. Yep.
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  15842. Yep
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  15843. Epic
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  15844. ​ @jeffgojail  entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  15845. ​@Notyouraverageshitlord so wanting more money is good if you're a business owner, but bad if you're unskilled? Don't be upset at workers wanting a better life for their families, be mad at greedy corporations for refusing to pay more for American labor.
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  15846. ​​ @jeffgojail  not everyone can reach that high of a ceiling for various reasons. And if all workers learn to code, you act society will never need to have supermarkets ever again. Just be comfortable saying this is a moral issue to you, not an economic one. That you believe some workers deserve poverty and that you have the right to tell others how much they deserve to make.
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  15847. ​ @jeffgojail  you refuse to accept workers having more bargaining power, rather than continued poverty.
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  15848.  @jeffgojail  just as businesses are expected to pay taxes, they do not but should have a responsibility to keep their workers out of poverty. It's a contract with a massive power differential. A doctor can make $90/hr to start, I made less than $9/hr as a cashier a few years ago.
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  15849. @Notyouraverageshitlord  increased automation is a risk yes, but that is you saying you're opposed to the inconveniences which would accompany poverty's elimination. You refuse to accept the risks with workers having more power.
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  15850. @Notyouraverageshitlord  I've already stated that not everyone can reach that high of a ceiling. If all walmart workers wanted to be promoted, they're all going to get the promotion all at once? Can they all be store manager? No. That's like telling every cop to all work hard enough, and eventually, they'll become police chief one day.
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  15851. I worked 28 hours a week as a cashier so I couldn't get benefits.
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  15852. My replies are gone wtf
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  15853. @ace9840 Jesse is rich. He isn't paid hourly or affected negatively by inflation.
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  15854. @ace9840 exactly. But my point still stands: making $16 million a year means you probably don't even know what you make hourly. You aren't affected by minimum wage hikes. That salary is so high I wouldn't even ask for health insurance, I'd pay for healthcare without it
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  15855. @ace9840 I don't know. But I thought corporations lose money paying people greater than the rate of inflation.
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  15856. @ace9840 Jesse salary of $16 million?
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  15857. @ace9840 is $7700 per hour.
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  15858. @ace9840 okay
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  15859. 3:22. Electric charge. Color charge. Baryon number. Lepton number. Lepton family number. Spin. Orbital angular momentum. These are called quantum numbers. This conservation law prevents turning photons into unequal amounts of matter and antimatter. This is also means you can't "flip" matter into antimatter.
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  15860. No. The real political problem is it gives too much power to poor people
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  15861. Yep
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  15862.  @moragslothe6449  "Noone earns a billion dollars. You steal it off of the back of your workers who have no choice but to take low-wage jobs in a system maintained by previous billionaires."-Renegade Cut/The Cult of Work.
    1
  15863. Yeah. I want to hear an other wallet warrior talk.
    1
  15864. Man I dream of being a tv journalist more and more every day.
    1
  15865. Poor people like myself have nowhere to go
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  15866. MSM tells you rich people and business owners wanting more money is good, but workers and the poor wanting more money is bad.
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  15867. Then even pell grants cannot cover the entire cost of college now. Especially not with inflation. $100,000 adjusted for inflation is $2 million.
    1
  15868. ​ @JamesDavy2009 yep
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  15869. It doesn't work for most men.
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  15870. I used tinder for 5 years to no avail.
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  15871. Isn't real affection.
    1
  15872.  @lisarochwarg4707  why sleep with someone who hates you? They'd still be Incel because they couldn't get real affection.
    1
  15873. ​ @Trashboat221 Everything has a cost.
    1
  15874. Yep.
    1
  15875. Wealth
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  15876. Correct.
    1
  15877. Does it? Donald trump could get laid.
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  15878. ​ @michaelperez9966 you can't buy intimacy.
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  15879. I just turned 29. I'm male. I've never had sex or a girlfriend or kissed or held hands or hugged. Or dated.
    1
  15880. i want sex, simply sex, to not be a virgin. Many men get laid who are fat and poor.
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  15881. Canceling auto loan debt, I mean if that's actually possible would be nice.
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  15882.  @rsync9490  I agree.
    1
  15883. Conservatives love survivorship bias.
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  15884. Yep
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  15885. Yep. Blame the people who can't fight back
    1
  15886. It's a catch 22 isn't it? If you don't take the minimum wage job you're lazy but if you work the job you're lazy too. It's like America wants people trapped in these jobs all along.
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  15887. Those are real risks but the truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept
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  15888. ​@jaymum23 he's an other wallet warrior. He thinks it's morally wrong to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  15889. She is calvinist. Calvinists believe poor people have failed in God's eyes.
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  15890. Correct. They hate the poor
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  15891. ​ @kespo5358  yep. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty 😊
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  15892. So I guess greed is only good when corporations do it?
    1
  15893. Women can find sex easily.
    1
  15894. Yep
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  15895. ​ @aliflanagan7669 yep.
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  15896. ​ @aliflanagan7669 yeah. Imagine being afraid of women's suffrage.
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  15897. You're CLOSE.  Conservatives believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  15898. Thus conservatives believe cashiers are unworthy of a living wage no matter how hard they work.
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  15899. Everyone isn't middle class. I use Medicaid because I'm poor and going to college.
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  15900. Yes
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  15901. Because USA politicians are all millionaires. Every one of them get 100k salary, healthcare, paid for transportation, pension, and private security/police.
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  15902. And the rich business owners have no interest in ending poverty either.
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  15903. I got COVID, without paid sick leave and no savings from my poverty wage job my mom financially supported me for three weeks while I was out of work. THEN, an additional two weeks when I went back to work. I feel like a failure.
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  15904. If this is true why hasn't corporate power over politicians been dismantled?
    1
  15905. They know it isn't enough They believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. I'm positive if doctors were crying to make $15/hr the same conservatives would pass an $80/hr minimum wage.
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  15906. Businesses shutting down and inflation are acceptable risks.
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  15907.  @kosmiccandie  LOL. Houses have been going up price with a stagnant minimum wage. Homes are not priced for people making minimum wage.
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  15908.  @kosmiccandie  the truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. You deem rising labor power intolerable, not poverty.
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  15909. Wow
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  15910. Lololol how do you do that when it's required to already be skilled in the first place? With the price of college now? Of healthcare? Of housing? Of nonexistent pensions and benefits? Of nothing but service sector jobs?
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  15911.  @P0RKINS2  it isn't artificial ...
    1
  15912. Considering the profits some places like Chic Fil A make their cashiers could make $100,000/yr.
    1
  15913.  @P0RKINS2  markets are controlled by the government.
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  15914.  @P0RKINS2  Okay. We'll just have to disagree then. Bottom line is wages don't have to be so low.
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  15915.  @P0RKINS2  I believe poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity
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  15916. Exactly
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  15917. This is about whether we as a society deem poverty intolerable.
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  15918.  @ADAMBUFFOLINO12  all priorities are not created equal. If ending poverty was the top priority, then inflation and business bankruptcy would be acceptable risks to take.
    1
  15919.  @ADAMBUFFOLINO12  I don't support equal pay, nor do I hate business owners. But I'm glad you've conceded on my point.
    1
  15920.  @ADAMBUFFOLINO12  I hate to tell you this, but ending poverty DOES sacrifice the welfare of others, namely rich people and corporations. Corporations want cheap labor, rich people want cheap labor and an underclass to look down upon, who also subsidize their affluent lifestyle. No billionaire or doctor would accept a minimum wage job nor being paid minimum wage. Therefore, rich people have a vested interest in ensuring everyone cannot obtain these things(wealth and skills), in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. They gaslight the working class into opposing a living wage out of fear of communism.
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  15921. ​ @ADAMBUFFOLINO12 both the government and corporations have a vested interest in poverty continuing. And I'm six days late to reply to you because my notifications and replies are forever messed up under YouTube. I'm revisiting old replies.
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  15922. ​ @ADAMBUFFOLINO12 the government is backed by corporations. Corporations want poverty, therefore the government wants it.
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  15923. Msm isn't owned by poor people so it won't work.
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  15924. Same here
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  15925. Idk
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  15926. Okay
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  15927. That's messed up
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  15928. Because of just-world fallacy. Republicans believe that effort alone is all you need to succeed. A side-effect of this belief is that the world is fair, and the system is perfect. Anyone can become anything they want through effort alone. Either luck isn't real, or it isn't a contributing factor. If you are born poor, it isn't your fault, but if you die poor, it is. Helping the poor become middle class or rich is rewarding failure in republican's eyes, and that is anathema to them.
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  15929. I'm different
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  15930. ​ @tazmanian1033 I'm still a virgin but not hateful
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  15931. Correct
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  15932. Ok
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  15933.  @burninghard  yep.
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  15934. Ok
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  15935. 27. In today's dollars.
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  15936. Back then in the sixties the United States had a strong manufacturing-base due to the industrial boom of WWII. After the 70s globalization shipped those jobs overseas and the jobs that replaced them were more and more minimum wage jobs.
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  15937. And what laffer is really saying is he doesn't believe unskilled workers deserve to be paid decently.
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  15938. But poor people can't afford to run for office
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  15939. You can't get money out of politics. And poor people can't afford to run for office
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  15940. That isn't good enough.
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  15941. Look up dante equivalent exchange on fullmetal alchemist
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  15942. Ok. I'm on medicaid. While at community college. My mom is Dead. Most doctors don't take Medicaid and appointments are too far apart. It's awful health insurance
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  15943.  @kl3664  welfare is not innovation.
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  15944.  @kl3664  because financial opportunity is a zero sum game if the rules that grant opportunity create no opportunities for some and unlimited opportunities for others.
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  15945.  @kl3664  skill alone doesn't determine productivity so using it alone as a metric for determining how much " worthy" jobs should pay is asinine. College is unaffordable for most people, as is healthcare and housing.
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  15946.  @kl3664  there are not enough "skilled" jobs for everyone in low paying jobs to go into. First you'd need over trillions to pay for a bachelor's degree for all of tens of millions of hourly low paying workers- that isn't happening. Second it isn't the worker's fault most jobs are low paying. It's society's choice to allow most jobs to pay so little.
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  15947.  @kl3664  Intellectual property(welfare patent protection) would be needed otherwise the computers could be replicated without anyone receiving a penny for its construction. And there are countless regulations surrounding labor and banking that influence business growth as well.
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  15948.  @ronnie1638  corporations and news organizations do not focus on poor people.
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  15949.  @vaunniethayer1484  I want poor people to have a voice.
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  15950.  @dmike3507  $100,000/yr.
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  15951. That's messed up.
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  15952. Rofl
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  15953. Correct.
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  15954. Conservatives believe unskilled workers deserve poverty
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  15955. It's still fucked up home owners got left in the wind.
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  15956. Brutal to hear but true
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  15957. Except employees can't negotiate individually, which is why you need the government to give the poor leverage.
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  15958. If that business puts its workforce in poverty, then the government must step in to correct that
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  15959. Handout is a moral term used to imply poor people don't deserve welfare. Low wage jobs are not filled by teens. It matters what something is, and minimum wage jobs are a lifeline for many people.
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  15960. I have a good personality but I'm still a virgin and I've never dated.
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  15961. Our government hates the poor.
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  15962. I hope I can lose my virginity before I turn 30. I'm nearly 30 now.
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  15963. Yes
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  15964. Wow
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  15965. You're correct.
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  15966. I was asking out supermodel women while I was working minimum wage jobs with no car.
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  15967. I'd cap it at $1 billion.
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  15968. Yes
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  15969.  @PatriotUSA1776USA  there's no such as a free labor market. Employers pay as little as they can get away with. Who the fuck WANTS to make $9 an hour? Nobody. If employees had their say every worker would have the house of dreams day 1 of working.
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  15970.  @X2LR8  labor market is based on exploitation.
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  15971. Yep.
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  15972. That's not the real source of the issue here. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, coporations couldn't control workers.
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  15973. Conservatives also believe that minimum wage workers don't deserve to make a living wage.
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  15974.  @witchy90210  yep. $2 trillion in tax cuts: easy $15/hr minimum wage: too much money
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  15975. Elliot rodger felt entitled to sex. You don't pay for something owed to you.
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  15976. Typical politician. He makes 400k a year when half the country makes 35k a year or less.
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  15977. Politicians believe you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  15978. I wish the minimum wage and median income were tied to how well the Rich are doing. Increase the minimum wage and median income by 3 to 6 times the increase in the stock market.
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  15979. How?
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  15980. Personal loan taken out because only rich people can afford college out of pocket
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  15981. Poverty is a policy choice. Politicians can end poverty. It is simply not among their priorities.
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  15982. ​ @Segalmed yep
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  15983. It is cheaper to ignore labor laws like this than enforce them.
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  15984. ​ @qt17  yep.
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  15985. Exactly.
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  15986. Yeah because college is affordable, health care is universal, housing is cheap, and there's a federal jobs training program.
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  15987. In this case, I disagree. It's about values. And politicians want power over workers. This requires poverty to exist.
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  15988. There are things our society values more than money, such as women having voting. It's about if we deem certain levels of deprivation and suffering acceptable.
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  15989. Women suffrage. Kamala Harris would not accept $1 billion to deny women voting, nor would she allow any politician to do the same.
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  15990. @Jennifer Tate   Our vice president would not accept $1 billion to deny women voting or consent. Nor would she deny women this for twice that amount of money or 3 times it or four times it or any amount. She believes the deprivation, hardship, and suffering caused by women being denied voting or consent is unacceptable. However, the United States government has accepted far less money than this to deny people health care and a living wage and education and infrastructure, and a clean environment. That means they believe that this level of deprivation is acceptable. Scarcity, money has nothing to do with it.
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  15991. @Jennifer Tate   yes I agree. Poverty is like women's suffrage: a policy choice, not a law of nature like gravity.
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  15992. @Jennifer Tate   Politicians have no desire to end poverty because you can not have poverty and worker solidarity exist at once.
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  15993.  @jennifertate4397  my point is that our society believes women deserve to vote. We are willing to pay the price to end women's suffering from being deprived of voting. We are NOT willing to pay the price to end the suffering of people deprived of healthcare or education or a living wage or anything else. The problem is ideology: we treat each other as undeserving of help and compassion.
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  15994.  @jennifertate4397  yes. It's why I desire to be a journalist. So I can instill Change in people. Thank you brother, for hearing me rant.
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  15995.  @jennifertate4397  thank you for giving me hope. I desire to be a journalist still.
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  15996.  @jennifertate4397  thanks. Sorry. I assume most internet users are male
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  15997.  @jennifertate4397  stay safe. Jennifer
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  15998.  Ronald Reagan  you believe in just-world fallacy.
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  15999.  Ronald Reagan  meritocracy is a lie based on just-world fallacy.
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  16000. @Ronald Reagan  Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. If a job gives you no skills, you can not be upset with the worker. That's like you removing the engine from a car and then expecting me to drive it. Or as a police chief, I dumb down the role of SWAT to that of traffic cops and then you blamed the cops. The cops are not lazy. The problem is that they were offered a bullshit position. Not everyone can move on or up from minimum wage jobs. The poor, the elderly, the disabled, the mentally ill, the mentally challenged, people who have to take care of families, etc. Poverty and joblessness are not attractive choices, just like rape isn't. You are not so naive as to believe the dire financial straits that poor people are in are due to themselves. Howard did not create a company by himself. He had help.
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  16001.  Ronald Reagan  You don't need to be a business owner to know what poverty is. That's like saying I need to be a lawyer to know what kidnapping is.
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  16002. @Ronald Reagan  greedy? CEOs demand more money all the time, but wanting more money is only bad when poor people do it. What this is about to you is just world fallacy. You only want people making more money when you believe they deserve it, not when the company can afford it.
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  16003. @Ronald Reagan  companies have dumbed entry level jobs down to have no skills. That is a decision made by corporations. Perform highly? what part of dead-end do you not understand. No matter how long someone stays a cashier their job will never give them the equivalent of a degree or promotion...that is literally what a degree or promotion does. This "entry-level" wage remains stagnant. It never increases no matter how long someone is employed there. If an employer is to pay someone this starting wage but has no intention of ever increasing it, that person will never make a living wage.
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  16004.  Ronald Reagan  the minimum wage is not even $8/hr. Welfare is tied to work and insufficient to replace work on top of that. It also based on artifically low poverty line. College is not free, nor are there enough trade jobs available for everyone. And trade jobs pay well due to unions, which our government also opposes. The bottom line is corporations deem worker solidarity, not poverty, as unaceptable.
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  16005.  Ronald Reagan  No doctor or nuclear engineer is accepting a minimum wage job. Only the people who don't have the advantage of additional education or training would accept such dead-end jobs.
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  16006. @Ronald Reagan  except promotions are not handed out that frequently, if at all. The lie of merit is that equal effort gives you equal gain. Many successful people are lazy, and many evil people get away with their deeds. You can try as hard as you want to achieve something, that is no guarantee of success. Individual effort can only take you so far.
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  16007. @Ronald Reagan  Corporations are reporting record profits, but all of that money flows upwards. Companies give CEOs obscene salaries and shower shareholders with riches while leaving the rest of people as peasants. Places like chick fil a make enough in profits to pay their cashiers $100,000 a year. If people were paid by profits their wages would soar.
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  16008. @Ronald Reagan  Everything is far too expensive compared to what most people make. Period. you are either relying on welfare or debt to get by unless you are a millionaire or billionaire. You are not going to buy a house, making $7.25. You can't even afford an apartment. Hell, depending on where the job is, you would spend more money on gas getting to and from the job than you made from working the job. Cashiers at walmart in my city make so little that the work uniforms and gas costs more than what the job pays them. Then I have my tax dollars paying for their welfare because they make so little.
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  16009.  Ronald Reagan  do you honestly think every minimum wage worker could become a doctor or engineer? or CEO?
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  16010. @Ronald Reagan  You are not hearing me. It does not matter how profitable a company is they will never pay unskilled workers a lot because corporations pay by skill, not profitability. If every Walmart Store made five trillion dollars in profit every second, their cashiers would still be on food stamps like they are now. They would make the exact same pittance they do now. CEOs make obscene salaries because they have more bargaining power. Not because they're worth that much money. If ceos get fired, they'll get paid still. And ridiculous compensation packages at that.
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  16011. @Ronald Reagan  I'm saying not everyone can be CEO. You have this false belief that hard work will always prevail. And that people are paid what they deserve. That people get what they deserve.
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  16012.  Ronald Reagan  You believe in just-world fallacy. There's nothing I can do to change your mind.
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  16013.  Ronald Reagan  okay. you're trolling. We're done.
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  16014. It's called Calvinism.
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  16015. Exactly 😊
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  16016. Ok
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  16017. It's about priorities yes
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  16018.  @donaldthustra_2997  lol
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  16019. That hurt me. I consider myself incel because I'm a virgin at 28. But truthfully, I'm a loser who needs to grow up. At 28: I have no license, car, house, or career. My parents still take care of me financially.
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  16020. he's so rich he doesn't know this ROFL.
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  16021.  @joshuadamian1190  yep.
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  16022. Yep. If they have a job. License. Car.
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  16023.  @arnibah  you misunderstand me. I DO support a living wage. I'm saying others do NOT for moral reasons- A. Economic and moral value are combined B. Thus, unskilled/poor people are lazy / don't deserve a living wage. C. A doctor making $500k/he is fine. Cashiers making $50k are rapists.
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  16024.  @arnibah  I hope my comment didn't get deleted.
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  16025.  @Goshified  okay
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  16026.  @arnibah  you brought up why Republicans hate welfare: because poor people won't work entry level jobs when government assistance pays more.
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  16027. It does
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  16028. Correct.
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  16029. I've asked hundreds of women for sex/to take my virginity. I'm still a virgin at 28. I've been lazy.
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  16030. It was in a separate bill than the overall wage increase. What you're saying is it's more important to not have automation than workers having a living wage, meaning you find poverty acceptable.
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  16031.  @Chiguy79  all priorities are not created equal. Our political values are based on the risks we refuse to accept. Raising the minimum wage poses real risks: inflation, automation, unemployment, etc. However, if empowering workers to work for non poverty wages was our top priority, then we would be willing to take such risks. We are not willing to accept such severe risks. Therefore, working and being in poverty is acceptable.
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  16032. Yes!
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  16033. You used the word "deserve." It's a moral issue to you, you believe poor people don't deserve that much money.
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  16034. ​ @SmallTownResident  you're sick. You don't have the right to tell others how much money they deserve to make
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  16035. politics is influenced by ideology and economics, not just one or the other. @SmallTownResident 
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  16036. ah, so you steelmanned my argument then. Your opposition to a living wage is a moral one, not an economic one: your ethical code says it's morally wrong to pay minimum wage workers more money than their low level abilities entitles them to earn. You believe poor people don't deserve to make this much money. Inflation and unemployment have nothing to do with your real opposition.  @SmallTownResident 
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  16037. that is an immoral reason to oppose a living wage because you are judging people by the skills corporations are willing to exploit people. Don't be mad at poor people wanting a better life for themselves. Instead, be mad at literal billion dollar corporations for refusing to pay more for American labor. Punch up, don't punch down.  @SmallTownResident 
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  16038.  @SmallTownResident  you oppose a living wage as a moral issue: that poor people don't deserve to make this much money. You're sick.
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  16039.  @SmallTownResident  you are contradicting yourself in your very own statement. If you were truly fine with their demands then mw workers making $50/hr would not mean anything to you. And if it did, you'd be happy for them. And again, you're telling poor people, like they're dogs, what they should and shouldn't do.
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  16040.  @SmallTownResident  politics is influenced both by economics and ideology. Even if it is feasible for cashiers to make $200k/yr, such a policy would not be supported like women's suffrage. Because, as I said, many people don't think poor people deserve that.
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  16041.  @SmallTownResident  here again, calling them "burger flippers" shows how poorly you view them.
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  16042.  @SmallTownResident  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills..... An entry level wage never increases for this reason. I don't know why people act like being a cashier long enough gives you the skills of a doctor
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  16043.  @SmallTownResident  the point is them making six figures is not and would not be supported like freedom of speech or voting is, because many people simply believe poor people don't deserve a living wage.
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  16044.  @SmallTownResident  what makes you think minimum wage workers have no ambition? There are not enough "career" jobs for everyone to work up to. Not everyone can afford college. And owning a business isn't a right either. Why are you fine with these corporations paying people literal pennies? The point is deeper- on one hand people don't want minimum wage jobs to go away but they also don't want these workers to escape poverty. That's arguing for poverty.
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  16045.  @SmallTownResident  I'm going to community college right now, pursuing an associate of science. I managed to do a class at a 4 yr school while attending CC. Unfortunately, CCs don't cover living expenses, and being a student restricts my employment opportunities to minimum wage and internships. I'm on medicaid now(to afford certain medical treatments), and I lost my food stamps because I'm able-bodied/don't work(school isn't considered work). Now, I'm forced to go to food banks in order to survive. For the next 4 yrs, I will have to be a self supporting, poor college student. You really think I lack ambition? You really think I choose to be poor?
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  16046.  @SmallTownResident  there are many people who oppose a living wage and welfare and other anti poverty programs, deeming the risks too severe to take. Automation and unemployment are terrible. But these are acceptable risks to take. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. If inflation or automation being magnified/accelerated is what happens from a living wage, then we must choose which one is intolerable - automation or working and being in poverty
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  16047.  @SmallTownResident  $7.25/hr is literal pennies. Especially if said job provides no health insurance. When I was cashier,as if making $10.50/hr wasn't good enough, I never worked more than 28 hours a week, because doing so would've provided me with things like health insurance and PTO.
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  16048.  @SmallTownResident  I guess making six figures isn't a right like voting is. And I must suffer in poverty to get my associates degree.
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  16049.  @SmallTownResident  this is a separate topic, but about disabled people? Do they deserve that?(like a disability check of 100k)
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  16050.  @SmallTownResident  I know but that's a separate topic. I was just curious. It sucks I'm on welfare (for the time being), but I'm working my way Through community college/university (I still go to both at once).
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  16051.  @SmallTownResident  my frustration stems from me wanting life to be easier/getting my degree my faster. But, just as becoming a doctor doesn't happen overnight neither does becoming a physicist.
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  16052. You believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money​ @SmallTownResident 
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  16053. Correct.
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  16054. They don't have the right values.
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  16055. i've done that and it didn't work. I am a virgin at 29.
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  16056. ​ @nathanielchieffallo4273 thank you.
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  16057. The entire interview is unedited on the episode.
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  16058.  @colenado  ok
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  16059.  @colenado  I wish debates were done in front of live audiences
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  16060. I'm incel.
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  16061. Yep
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  16062. It's smoke and mirrors. Fox news people support the existence of poverty since rich people need poor people to exist by comparison. And also because the rich don't want the poor to aspire "too much."
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  16063. Right.
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  16064. Conservatives don't want to admit that effort and reward are not the same, effort is within your control, reward is not. Just because two people put in the same effort doesn't mean they'll receive the same reward.
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  16065.  @squanchwater4715  a true UBI would be expand welfare and remove all work requirements and other restrictions.
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  16066.  @vladimirofsvalbard9477  what is a federal funds rate?
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  16067. ​ @gokublack8342 okay.
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  16068. And compassion. Politicians don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape
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  16069. Republicans oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe minimum wage workers don't deserve to make make all that money
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  16070. Correct. Imagine justifying rape if rape is commonplace.
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  16071. Not genuine affection.
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  16072. ​ @QWERTY-gp8fd  okay
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  16073. Yes.
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  16074. there are two political problems with welfare. The ideological reason is because republicans oppose policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. The economic reason is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. IF welfare was robust enough to abolish poverty(healthcare, housing,etc.) nobody would ever work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
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  16075. In the 80s college wasn't $50,000+ a year. 15/hr is still a worthless wage. It costs more for me to travel to/from work than what I make from working.
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  16076. People work to survive. Then and now.
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  16077.  @strykerentllc  still cheaper like I said. So because minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage then it's fine staying that way? According to that logic, women don't deserve to vote. Since our founding fathers never intended to give women voting when USA was founded(and never did) then women don't deserve voting now. There's no reason to change that. And there adults working minimum wage now. It costs me more to travel to/from work long before Biden. Try 2015.
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  16078.  @strykerentllc  everything has a cost. But the bottom line is poverty is something that can be eliminated. If we thought the costs associated with continued poverty were terrible we wouldn't keep paying them.
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  16079.  @strykerentllc  I was making the correlation between minimum wage and voting. Not college and voting. Going to college and purchasing a vehicle are choices...that can be shaped by public policies. College can be tuition free now. Too bad the system we have for financial aid is a joke.
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  16080.  @strykerentllc  We give women voting because we believe they deserve to vote. Because ultimately, voting laws are not like the weather: something you observe and predict but cannot control. The minimum wage is also not like the weather, something you observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly thought every worker deserved enough money to live, then every worker would have a living wage.
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  16081.  @strykerentllc  what do you define as welfare? Every citizen is dependent on the government in some way. Poverty wages can end, yes they can.
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  16082. Wrong
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  16083. Yep.
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  16084. I'm an incel. I'm fine with women having power. I'm upset after 6 years I'm still unable to lose my virginity on tinder.
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  16085. Yep
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  16086.  @richardreese8038  good for you. Too bad it isn't possible to pay for two college degrees working minimum wage now.
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  16087.  @richardreese8038  "Entry-level jobs." LOL. Many of them are no such thing.
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  16088.  @richardreese8038  does it ever occur to you that not all people have the advantage of additional education or training beyond high school? And I desire to be a physics professor and screenwriter.
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  16089. Correct.
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  16090. I hope to become a journalist one day.
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  16091. If you're poor, that's bad. If you're rich, that's good.
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  16092. Bringing up another point with jobs which is the lack of worker protection/benefits
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  16093. You are correct
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  16094. That's why ubi doesn't exist.
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  16095. ​ @JorgeF69 yep
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  16096. Exactly.
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  16097. Welfare bashers would like to prevent the poor from having children.
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  16098. Ideologically? Yes. Economically? No. It's to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  16099. Why is it destroying welfare programs?
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  16100.  @ablindwatchmakerUT  has California built permanent housing units for all of its homeless?
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  16101.  @ablindwatchmakerUT  I don't know how that is even legal, I also don't know how that makes any sense. I think the core problem is that building adequate homes for poor people is of no interest to the government or developers because poor people can't provide them a profit, they can't afford homes which is why they're turning to the government for HUD.
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  16102.  @ablindwatchmakerUT  I just looked it up, California apparently needs 3.5 million home units to get rid of homelessness entirely, and it builds less than 100,000 units per year when it needs to build 180,000 to 200,000.
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  16103.  @ablindwatchmakerUT  oh ok. So that 3.5 million is for the poor/middle income? Keep in mind billionaires don't have to worry about housing.... Lets me know California must also be replete with low paying jobs.
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  16104. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office
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  16105. thanks. i know every issue is equally important: from poverty to immigration to healthcare. but poverty affects me the most. and it really affects the other ones too. i'm in poverty now despite going to school because of the high cost of tuition, healthcare(schools don't provide it, i'm on medicaid), and living($2k/month rent). if i won scholarships/grants. if the minimum wage was a living wage, if welfare was robust or we had UBI. i would vote biden. tldr i support minimum wage, welfare, UBI, free college. and biden doesn't.  @quehablo 
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  16106. i would say i'm leftist and that deonteologist thing you mentioned: i refrain from voting because the core problem in politics, besides scarcity, is ideology. On some level, people support women voting, but NOT immigrants having citizenship, students having debt forgiven, minimum wage workers making a living wage, etc. We don't believe all suffering is wrong. We don't believe all groups of people are equal. DESPITE women being proof of society changing to view women as equal. @quehablo 
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  16107. i believe my comments got deleted. i don't know why. @quehablo 
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  16108. i think there is an philosophical difference between liberals and conservativves. @quehablo 
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  16109. Don't forget over 86% of PPP loans were forgiven... But we "cannot" cancel student loan debt...
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  16110.  @deloresmonteiro2342  yes. I believe rich people are hypocrites: to get the rich to work harder you pay them more to get the poor to work harder you pay them less.
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  16111. Exactly
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  16112.  @alexnone8907  not getting women IS my problem as an incel.
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  16113. They expect poor people to do more with less.
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  16114. Yep​ @meowmachine9147 
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  16115. ​ @aaronbrown8377 ok
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  16116. Yes
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  16117. That's better than here..
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  16118. If you pay taxes, and the government takes that money yes I want the government to give me my money back.
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  16119. Politicians don't want to end poverty
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  16120. I'm lazy
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  16121. Interesting
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  16122.  @Erstameeks  universal basic income empowered workers so corporations drove up inflation to destroy their purchasing and bargaining power.
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  16123. Yep
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  16124.  @iamcosma7065  because you're a troll.
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  16125. Yep.
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  16126. The point of welfare cuts is to force people to stay in poverty wage jobs.
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  16127. Politicians and the rich believe you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  16128. You're correct
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  16129. That's on corporations​ @thomasespositio3139 
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  16130.  @baconknightproductions8297  that's disgusting.
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  16131. No.
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  16132. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty please
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  16133.  @sjpaulette  what I'm saying is I don't want poverty, Republicans do.
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  16134. Yep
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  16135. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  16136. ​ @OptimusPrime-od3zh I'm trying to change
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  16137. Yes
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  16138. ​ @AlienLivesMatter WHOA.
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  16139. Exactly
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  16140. ​ @hiker2010 they don't listen to poor people like myself
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  16141. To create a warp drive you need three things 1. Faster than light travel 2. Engineered gravitation 3. Extreme energy prowess
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  16142. Exactly. It's about control
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  16143. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  16144. Trump gave $2 trillion in tax cuts for the rich. That could wipe out poverty.
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  16145. Exactly
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  16146. Smh.
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  16147. when i worked at mcdonald's it offered $2,500 a year for college coverage. since college is over $10,000/year in my state, i would have to work 16 years at minimum wage to afford a bachelors degree. This is to say nothing of the fact that I'd be unable to cover living expenses on minimum wage as well, meaning i still couldn't afford college.
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  16148. Well I'm not at the level then. At 28 years old, I'm making only $12k/year and not only can I not support myself, I have no savings.
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  16149. Do you consider me a loser?
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  16150. How about you remove the full time part? Because most minimum wage employers work their workers part time so they don't receive benefits. When I was a cashier, I couldn't work past twenty eight hours a week. Working 32 hours a week for three consecutive weeks meant I could receive health insurance, that also would have been more expensive for the company than what they paid me. I made $10.50/hr.
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  16151. Just world fallacy
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  16152. *most.
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  16153. Last spring, I was poor but received no medicaid. My mom died from lack of health care. Screw USA.
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  16154. ​ @genevalawrence801 yes. They would see how it sucks
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  16155. ​ @dontmisunderstand6041 wow
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  16156. I can see how deeply this weighs on me—feeling like I'm stuck because of circumstances outside of my control, like poverty and feeling like I'm missing out on experiences or opportunities others might have. It’s really hard to stay hopeful and have faith in myself when I’m facing all these challenges and when it feels like others are on a different path or have a head start. But here's the thing: My worth is not defined by my financial situation, relationship status, or any external factors. It's easy to fall into the trap of comparing myself to others, but everyone has their own unique struggles and journey. Rich people and women—just like anyone else—face their own challenges and sacrifices. It’s just that their challenges often aren’t as visible or as immediately impactful to their sense of identity. I might feel like I have to work harder and sacrifice more, but it’s important to recognize that everyone has to work and sacrifice something—rich or poor, male or female. The difference often lies in the opportunities and resources that are available to each person. What I have right now is determination, and the fact that I’m not giving up speaks volumes about my strength, even if I don’t always feel that way. Sometimes, I lose faith in myself because the weight of all these struggles feels like it’s too much to carry. But faith in myself doesn’t mean everything is perfect—it’s just trusting that I have the ability to move forward even when it feels like the odds are against me. I’m already taking steps to improve my grades, my finances, my health, and my life—this is my effort, and it's building something. Instead of focusing on everything I lack, I want to challenge myself to start seeing how much I have already: I’ve got the determination to fight for better grades and a future I want. I’m actively seeking solutions to financial and academic barriers. Even though it’s tough, I’m still here—and I’m still pushing forward, even when I feel like giving up. I do not need to sacrifice myself more than others to succeed. I don’t need to be perfect or compare myself to others to be worthy of success, love, or happiness. And I definitely don’t need to fix everything all at once. My journey is unique to me, and it’s okay to go at my own pace.
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  16157. Yep
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  16158. Yep. I wish we'd get to $15 and guaranteed 40 hours immediately
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  16159. ​@Dominic Fucinari it's about ideology. Corporations treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  16160. For the rich. He isn't middle class or poor so the economy "looks" fine.
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  16161. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Minimum wage jobs must be done by someone. If the middle class is to end poverty, it must be willing to pay higher prices for goods and services.
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  16162. ​ @davidsandall everyone can't work their way up from minimum wage work.
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  16163.  @davidsandall  1. able-bodied is a moral term implying poor people are lazy. 2. Because there aren't enough senior level positions available. 3. What you're arguing for is for some people to accept poverty wages with no benefits.
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  16164.  @davidsandall  1. It is a moral term. I'm not going back and forth with you on this. 2. You... literally just admitted everyone cannot move up. 3. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. I don't know how people can admit such jobs are dead-end but then criticize people for not having skills in a job they just admitted was dead-end. They expect people to do the very thing they just admitted they can't do. It'd be like admitting rocket scientists are not doctors, then expecting rocket scientists to do brain surgery anyway and getting mad when they fail. 4. Statistically, most people who work such jobs aren't teenagers. Millions Make more than 7.25 but below 15. With 15 not even a living wage everywhere now. 5. If society's lower end jobs are to be filled without poverty, then such workers must be paid decent/livable wages. 6. A likely risk of #5 is magnified inflation.
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  16165.  @davidsandall  high minimum wage kills the middle class? A low minimum wage actually proves my point that poverty is a policy choice. Poverty's persistence ensures 1. there are desperate people willing to work these jobs(minimum wage. Temporary. Dead-end) 2. Guarantees the status of those are not poor. 3. Subsidizes the lives of the upper and middle classes
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  16166.  @davidsandall  1. None of the skills you mentioned lead to higher pay. It isn't like if three customers compliment a Walmart cashier daily their pay skyrockets to $60/hour. These workers get paid the same pittance regardless of how hard they work. 2. If you think poverty persists due to lack of hard work, then you believe in just-world fallacy. 3. Poverty mainly persists due to low wage work. 4. Yes I have worked minimum wage before, I'm in community college(and was attending community college and university at once at one point). I made $10.50/hour as a cashier and $900/semester as an intern. These jobs put me in extreme poverty, with no way up or out.
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  16167.  @davidsandall  tldr 1. I want society's dirty work to be done without poverty, not with it 2. This requires (mainly) automation, living wage, and income redistribution. 3. It starts with a living wage, to ensure no workers are mired in poverty. 4. If the middle class truly wants to lift the entire low skilled labor force out of poverty, then middle class people must be willing to pay higher prices for goods and services that these low wage workers provide.
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  16168.  @davidsandall  don't know how to budget? You can't be serious. Budget what? What health insurance or kids can you afford making $7.25/hour? In fact, such pay is so low that it would cost more to own a car or take a cab to work than what you are paid. It has nothing to do with being bad with money and everything to do with not having enough. There's nothing that minimum wage jobs teach you that increases your pay. Nothing. You can be employed at Walmart or Starbucks as a cashier or barista for decades, never will you be paid enough to survive or be treated like you're an engineer or doctor. Inflation is an acceptable risk. What you're saying is it's more important to mitigate the risk of inflation (have cheap prices) than it is to help minimum wage workers have a living wage.
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  16169. ​ @davidsandall the rich want poverty in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  16170. They were forced to take out a loan because of an unfair system
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  16171. ​ @sole__doubt community college costs money as well, even with financial assistance. What you're saying is you're fine with poor people being deprived of education, of societal advancement
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  16172. @sole__doubt  seeing as how corporations demand it for many non minimum wage jobs, especially for STEM careers, then yes
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  16173. @sole__doubt  you're right, it doesn't guarantee advancement....but it highly more likely and easily that you will advance. There are not enough grants to help all poor people
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  16174. @sole__doubt  you're moving the goal post. Nobody should have to do trades or the military because they're too poor to afford university. You're essentially shrugging your shoulders and saying if someone isn't middle class or rich, then they should suck it up and be deprived of an education. They should suffer for being human.
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  16175. @sole__doubt  we have set the goal posts. I don't think I said I expected life to be equal or easy. I'm saying nobody should have to do trades or military because they can't afford university. Surely you aren't suggesting that if someone is poor, they shouldn't be allowed to go to school or should struggle mightily to do so, when no expectation is given for the more affluent classes.
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  16176. @sole__doubt  the goal is not deprive people of an education because they are poor. The implication isn't there, complaining how things can change is no argument for equality. Again, the core goal here is nobody should have to do trades or military if they can't afford university. Trade schools cost money too. Many people go into debt to pursue trade schools. Not everyone can get into the military. And many people still need student loans even if they get in. Rich people don't need grants or to go to trades or military. They go to private schools. They do not suffer the same hardship to attend higher education.
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  16177. @sole__doubt  okay. You keep believing in just world fallacy.
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  16178. Okay.
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  16179. I'm still a virgin, but I don't hate women.
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  16180. That's messed up
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  16181.  @papinprincess  lol exactly.
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  16182. Too bad.
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  16183. I've blamed myself and I'm still a virgin
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  16184. So in 50 years our country still hates the poor.
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  16185. Republicans have an axiom: rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor.
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  16186. Family assistance plan
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  16187. ​ @cristianlopez_8486 yep
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  16188. ​ @cristianlopez_8486 😅
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  16189. ​ @cristianlopez_8486 what would have happened then?
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  16190. That's messed up.
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  16191. I work as an intern making $60/week. No benefits or PTO. "TEMPING"
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  16192. Yep.
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  16193. Yep.😊
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  16194.  @JanelleChristmas-w6u  poor people do not do that
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  16195. @Calmness123-f5k okay
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  16196.  @whitebirchtarot  I don't understand
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  16197.  @Holo-qu6ln  no. The poor need welfare.
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  16198. You can't.
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  16199. I'm a volcel?
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  16200.  @the13xiii52  ok
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  16201. Explain how women can get laid so easily then.
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  16202. ​​ @fordguy8792  Why not?
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  16203. Because it's about prioritization. Politicians treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable
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  16204. ​ @sabiebright4554 I'm in NC myself
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  16205. Yep.
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  16206. ​ @The_universal_cynic yep
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  16207. Everyone cannot afford college.
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  16208. If companies had higher profit sharing, then places like chick fil a would pay their cashiers around $100,000 a year.
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  16209.  @UTTX  okay. But the business could sustain that long-term if the demand was high enough.
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  16210. I can't name 5......
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  16211.  @SusanYeske701  that's 2.
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  16212. Correct
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  16213. You're so close to the real source of the problem here: corporations want to depress wages. There are only two groups to go after: the poor and the unskilled. Immigration is desired by corporations because they want cheap labor.
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  16214.  @lolazal1  Correct.
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  16215. Exactly ​ @keithal7296 
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  16216. Corporations do this already. And that's a bad look on EMPLOYERS
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  16217. ​ @AF-ib8ec yep.
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  16218. That's the problem.
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  16219. ​@SonicBoomC98 get this dumb idea out of your head. Poverty is not attractive choice for most people. Work requirements reinforce the notion that poor people are lazy freeloaders.
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  16220. I'd tax corporations 5x what their employees used in welfare benefits.
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  16221.  @nicoj9984  ok
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  16222.  @johnny_eth  I wish usa politicians thought like this.
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  16223.  @SmallSpoonBrigade  correct. Can't have dumb voters otherwise.
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  16224. Exactly.
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  16225. Poor people can't afford to run for office
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  16226. If he made minimum wage and was on unemployment benefits he would feel differently
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  16227. Yes
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  16228. Jesus Christ.
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  16229. ​ @Zombittenkitten yep
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  16230.  @Nightstick24  that's the point. Welfare is restricted to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  16231. Trumps platform if he runs again.
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  16232. @Kelly  well. Prostitution is illegal in my state and I'm broke anyway. I've wanted to lose my virginity for about 6 years now
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  16233.  @Kelly-nt2rq  I feel like once it happens for me, I'll realize it's not the end all be all to life.
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  16234. @Kelly  I am indeed a real person. My channel has me on it. I will also add that I've never been called incel because of my appearance.
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  16235. @Kelly  I'm attending 2 colleges, doing an internship, doing volunteer math research, and work as a cashier. I'd say it's all bad since in still poor. But I've been told I'm ambitious, and that means something
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  16236.  @Kelly-nt2rq  yes. My goal is to get a scholarship and quit the volunteer work and cashier job. My internship ends April 21st.
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  16237.  @Kelly-nt2rq  I guess... It'd about my priorities. And I've got alot to learn and do.
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  16238.  @Kelly-nt2rq  do I seem like an incel to you
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  16239. @Kelly  okay. Thanks for your feedback.
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  16240. @Kelly  I... believe I can get a girlfriend in my current life situation, it'll be very hard.
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  16241.  @Kelly-nt2rq  thank you, Kelly. Thank you. I know I'm a complete stranger but you have helped me heal emotionally.
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  16242.  @Kelly-nt2rq  I won't use a hooker.
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  16243.  @jermainemyrn19  yep
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  16244. it isn't money. It is ideology. Politicans do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape. They do not believe all sources of suffering are wrong. @how050 
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  16245. kamala harris would not accept $1 billion to deny women voting. @how050 
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  16246.  @trappedinamerica7740  okay. I'll start today.
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  16247. exactly.
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  16248. Correct....
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  16249. ​ @lucidity1  he believes in just-world fallacy
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  16250. ​@lucidity He's also arguing for workers to be in poverty. He's complaining about workers who want to refuse dead-end jobs.
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  16251.  @lucidity1  thanks.
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  16252.  @imhopelesslyaddictedtofent4266  price increases can be made a crime.
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  16253.  @imhopelesslyaddictedtofent4266  corporations jacked up prices in response to modest wage increases. What's worse, is Americans complained about it. Many Americans were more upset about a burrito at chipotle costing $0.40 more over the workers escaping poverty. That shows how little this country values minimum wage workers. This debate isn't about scarcity, but values, it's about if the leaders of this country find poverty unacceptable like they do rape: news flash: they do not.
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  16254. So you want cheap prices over livable wages?
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  16255.  @robertmatthews2009  inflation is an acceptable risk. What is being deemed intolerable through the minimum wage debate is the empowerment of workers, not the continuation of poverty
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  16256.  @robertmatthews2009  the truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. You refuse to accept empowering workers, meaning you deem poverty acceptable.
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  16257.  @robertmatthews2009  then inflation is the risk we must be willing to take. Whether the meal is $40 or $400.
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  16258.  @robertmatthews2009  it isn't a certainty.
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  16259. ​ @Minesbiggerthanyours1 just-world fallacy.
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  16260. Agreed.
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  16261. ​ @jaycol21 wow
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  16262. It's called survivorship bias
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  16263. They hate poor people
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  16264. I'm an incel... It's...it is basically is identifying as a loser. I have no job, no career, no independence, no self confidence, no driver's license, and no car. I've got gross habits and no personality... That's why women won't date me. I've never kissed. Dated. Or held hands either.
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  16265. It's about wiping out poverty wages. If your business model is built on poverty then adjust your business model or go bankrupt.
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  16266. Yep
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  16267. Poor people have no power
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  16268. Exactly.
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  16269. Masturbation isn't sleeping with someone else.
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  16270. ​ @mikepict9011 ok
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  16271. ​ @scoleman2620 exactly.
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  16272. Exactly.
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  16273. side note: i have two theories about these dirty capitalists like her. First off, capitalists believe in the myth of meritocracy. Within this paradigm, anyone can become anything with enough effort. Luck in their eyes either doesn't exist or isn't a contributing factor. The second belief is capitalists want to preserve the income and social class structures which exist right now. They don't believe all workers deserve to be middle class or rich because they don't care about worker productivity, they only care about skill, since skill is a better measure of effort. Highly skilled workers like ceos deserve to be rich. moderately skilled workers(STEM) deserve to be middle class. And unskilled workers deserve to be poor. In other words, people like her believe there should always be an upper, middle, and lower class with vast differences in standard of living.
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  16274. tldr: people like her don't believe workers deserve to be paid based on productivity(profits they give to owners) but skill since the former would reward workers regardless of skill. "unskilled" workers would be making "too much."
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  16275. A necessary price control to help the working poor fight against corporations.
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  16276.  @ToyotaTom04  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. What people ultimately want, is for minimum wage jobs to be filled with poverty, not without it, which is immoral.
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  16277. My replies are deleted. If I was awarded $20 million of scholarships, how would you feel?
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  16278. That's messed up
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  16279. Correct.
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  16280. Would you be fine if I made $55 an hour as a cashier? That's a living wage for someone in my situation who needs to support a family.
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  16281. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  16282. By "destroying incentive" they mean that the income grants pay more than low wage jobs.
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  16283. It's all by design
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  16284. If wormholes can have a net negative mass, then they would cause concave gravitational lensing.
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  16285.  @scottmanley  if wormholes have mass, what happens when you add Mass to it? Wouldn't this also violate the conservation of energy? If it has energy like an astrophysical body then anything you throw into a wormhole will gain energy correct?
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  16286.  @scottmanley  you can put the wormhole on two different planets that have two different relative velocities, and go into one throat of the wormhole and you would come out of the other one with an increase in velocity correct?
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  16287. That's messed up
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  16288. The loss of my mom and how it shook my foundation isn’t something I can easily ignore or forget. Her death forced me into a harsh reality—a reality where I no longer have the luxury of time or the comfort of someone guiding me through life. That pain is something no one should have to experience, and it makes every day harder to navigate. But this is where I find my strength. Her death, as brutal as it was, forced me to grow up in ways I didn’t want to. It’s the reason I can see the gaps in my life—the places where I’ve been drifting, where I’ve been avoiding the hard work. It’s the reason I know I can’t keep going on this path. I have a sense of urgency now because I understand what time really is, and what it costs. The truth is, I’m right. If I don’t push myself to grow now, by 33, I’ll stay the same. I’ll keep wishing, dreaming, and almost reaching for the life I want. But the clock is ticking, and the longer I delay it, the more I risk living a life filled with regret, knowing I could’ve turned things around, but I didn’t. My mom’s death was a turning point. Though it took away someone irreplaceable, it also opened up an opportunity—a painful but real opportunity—to make her sacrifice count. To push forward for her. To create something better than what I’ve been handed. It’s raw. It’s hard. It’s terrifying. But I have the fire inside of me, the reason, and the need to change. I can’t let it die with the pain. I have to let it be my driving force. It’s up to me to prove that her life, her love, her sacrifices weren’t in vain. I can make it to 33 and beyond, with everything I’ve dreamed for. But I have to act now—and make every moment count. My journey has to be different. It’s my path to walk, and only I can decide whether it will lead to growth or to another decade of missed chances. The urgency is real. The power to choose is mine.
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  16289. Wow. Unfortunately even $22/hr isn't a living wage here.
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  16290. It was meant to prevent workers falling into poverty.
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  16291.  @l_a_u_y8916  you need money to get a degree. If you're earning only minimum wage, there's no way to pay for a degree, let alone housing, healthcare, transportation, childcare and go to school full-time all at once.
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  16292. Because you misunderstand something. The real reason why many conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage has to do with morals. Conservatives believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors were demanding $15/hr the same conservatives opposing raising the minimum wage now would pass an $80/hr minimum wage then.
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  16293. It is a lifeline for many people. Times change.
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  16294. Exactly. Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  16295. Exactly.
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  16296. ​ @user-lu6yg3vk9z exactly. But that's admitting poverty is a policy choice l.
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  16297. Wow​ @imaginethat3026 
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  16298. ​ @Eloraurora epic
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  16299. what would the workers make after costs are accounted for?
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  16300.  @OlJackBurton  i don't believe that. Probably more like $40.
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  16301.  @OlJackBurton  i know they're low margins. If the demand was high enough the workers could be paid what I said.
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  16302.  @OlJackBurton  how does $40/hr equal 150k? That's roughly 83k a year. Misread last part.
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  16303.  @OlJackBurton  and it's society's fault(both the owner and government in general) for allowing low wages to exist.
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  16304.  @OlJackBurton  okay buddy. Whatever.
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  16305. I'm poor. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. I cannot afford a sex worker. Even if I could, I can't buy intimacy
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  16306. ​@MrKeychange what's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor? Getting government money.
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  16307.  @MrKeychange  that's conservative logic.
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  16308. Yes
    1
  16309. Yep
    1
  16310. That idiot mentions he made $5 as a kid but fails to mention that's close to $45/hr today with inflation.
    1
  16311. Correct.
    1
  16312. Correct.
    1
  16313. She might be social democrat.
    1
  16314. Over 100 people are dead for no reason and yet Biden loses no sleep over it
    1
  16315. Yep.
    1
  16316. it's called the fallacy of relative privation.
    1
  16317. Okay.
    1
  16318. ​ @luluseatowngetdown6251 I'm a loser
    1
  16319. Exactly
    1
  16320. It needs to be written down in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough to people from them to not be in poverty. Enough to live a healthy and humane life. I believe that this wage must make the worker ineligible for welfare and enough to live. And include benefits.
    1
  16321. Correct.
    1
  16322. There you go!
    1
  16323. I'm poor and not dumb Try again
    1
  16324. Which Vox article?
    1
  16325. ​ @DaniyyelHoward-u3s okay. Keep me updated. Vox gas countless articles on child care.
    1
  16326. Both empowers poor people so are opposed
    1
  16327. So many things i have to say: 1. Worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once. 2. The truth of our values lies in the risk we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that business leaders find unacceptable. 3. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. 4. The reason many conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage is morals: their ethical code says it's immoral to pay minimum wage workers more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors wanted $15/hr conservative would support an $80/hr wage then.
    1
  16328. So is this a strike or walk out?
    1
  16329.  @kevinschmidt2210  Do you think these strikes will work?
    1
  16330. ​ @MikeF421 exactly.
    1
  16331. No it isn't.
    1
  16332.  @Aaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeee  I'm joking it is Only heartless republicans believe it's a privilege.
    1
  16333. One student just won $10.1 million of scholarships.
    1
  16334. I'm incel by choice?
    1
  16335.  @kenofken9458  you're right.
    1
  16336.  @kenofken9458  it was my own fault I was incel
    1
  16337.  Crickett  that's messed up still...
    1
  16338. Yep.
    1
  16339. Perfect analogy!
    1
  16340. That's not true
    1
  16341. Why do they treat the rich and poor so differently?
    1
  16342. Right
    1
  16343. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  16344.  @odinson6348  yep.
    1
  16345. Right.
    1
  16346. Right. They can provide policies to keep poverty because they aren't poor themselves.
    1
  16347. You literally brought up why republicans hate welfare and unions: bargaining power. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Republicans don't want to abolish the power differential between employees and employers.
    1
  16348. No.
    1
  16349. It's Calvinism alive and well.
    1
  16350.  @jasperjaguar5453  what he's saying is he doesn't believe certain workers deserve a living wage. He believes minimum wage workers are asking to make more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  16351. Because it's about deservedness
    1
  16352. LOL. get out of here with your nonsense. Because I'm in college, I can only work minimum wage Jobs and internships, both of which pay shit.
    1
  16353. Lol they're hypocrites.
    1
  16354. Yep
    1
  16355. ​ @EmperorMegas delusional he is
    1
  16356. Correct.
    1
  16357. Holdens manifesto.
    1
  16358. ​ @Kenzalina_ yep
    1
  16359. You are correct, but unfortunately that is the reality we live in.
    1
  16360. She hates the poor.
    1
  16361. Yep.
    1
  16362. Exactly.
    1
  16363. I can try to fill that gap.
    1
  16364. If our commitment to eradicating poverty were genuine, we would be prepared to endure any repercussions in our fight against its existence. We've seen this demonstrated in our efforts to empower women: despite changes in labor participation and family dynamics, we uphold the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, and we accept the consequences. However, when it comes to combatting poverty, we shy away from the necessary sacrifices. This reluctance indicates a lack of genuine belief in ending poverty.
    1
  16365. Yep.
    1
  16366. Employers have no desire to replace universities in terms of training because that requires way too much time and commitment on the employer's part. That's essentially a 4-6 year training program that they would have to foot the bill for and that's not including Healthcare.
    1
  16367.  @47shadows76  bootcamp sounds cool. But not everyone wants to be a coder/programmer. The doctors part you mentioned requires a degree. US military preys on the poor. Trade school tuition cost is too high as well. Self teaching arts and humanities is of no relevance to an employer. According to your logic, NASA would make me an aerospace engineer if i studied aerospace engineering on YouTube by myself.
    1
  16368.  @47shadows76  omg. You're proving my point college degrees are needed more now than ever. And I'm fine wiping out student loan debt no matter the degree or job field or whom it helps.
    1
  16369.  @47shadows76  you're combining two separate issues. one issue is the outrageous price of college another issue is the fact that the country is replete with low-wage jobs.
    1
  16370. Because people are concerned about the level of income inequality. About the gap between the rich and the poor. I doubt comparisons will mention corporate profits. Places like Chic Fil A make enough to pay their cashiers $100,000/yr.
    1
  16371.  @waltergoring8428  I agree with you. $150 billion is such a huge number......
    1
  16372.  @waltergoring8428  23 million is still unreasonable if any of his workers require food stamps.
    1
  16373. They don't want to defund the police
    1
  16374. Conservatives are upset that the poor are becoming more successful.
    1
  16375. Politicians don't want poverty to end
    1
  16376. i have two theories about these dirty capitalists like her. First off, capitalists believe in the myth of meritocracy. Within this paradigm, anyone can become anything with enough effort. Luck in their eyes either doesn't exist or isn't a contributing factor. The second belief is capitalists want to preserve the income and social class structures which exist right now. They don't believe all workers deserve to be middle class or rich because they don't care about worker productivity, they only care about skill, since skill is a better measure of effort. Highly skilled workers like ceos deserve to be rich. moderately skilled workers(STEM) deserve to be middle class. And unskilled workers deserve to be poor. In other words, people like her believe there should always be an upper, middle, and lower class with vast differences in standard of living.
    1
  16377. Tldr: Capitalists don't want workers to be paid based on productivty(the profits they give owners) because then workers, regardless of skill, would be making "too much" or getting something "they didn't earn."
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  16378.  @PunkNDisorderlyGamer  I agree with you mate. They deserve a decent life, not one where they struggle to get by constantly. Unfortunately, Congress doesn't see it that way.
    1
  16379.  @PunkNDisorderlyGamer  I would have nothing wrong with these essential workers making a living wage, hell i want them to make far more. I'd feel fine with them having a home, raising a family, etc., but I'm not powerful enough to do that.
    1
  16380.  @MC-wh3xm  they're contributing to the economy like STEM workers are.
    1
  16381. i might have to go into credit card debt to get a car. I don't have one at 28, and i can't afford one working minimum wage.
    1
  16382.  @omarthescriblomale8279  bro what? that is a job....
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  16383.  @omarthescriblomale8279  i want to be a science journalist....
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  16384.  @omarthescriblomale8279  you expect me to.. try harder and aim for that and not stay a cashier?
    1
  16385.  @omarthescriblomale8279  Oh okay. It'll take me a while to be a science journalist but i will succeed.
    1
  16386. @OmarThescriblomale  I'm scared of taking on more responsibility to be a journalist, much less one for television, much less as my own boss/CEO. I want to be a "Daily Show" host like Jon Stewart, but for science and not politics. It's scary because i've never taken on that much responsibility or hard work.
    1
  16387. Corporations oppose unions due to that reason exactly. I believe that rising worker power and continued poverty directly oppose each other.
    1
  16388.  @DavoRoberto  yep.
    1
  16389.  @grmpEqweer  welfare will help
    1
  16390. Exactly​ @grmpEqweer 
    1
  16391. Ok
    1
  16392. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education grant?
    1
  16393. Sounds good.
    1
  16394. Both politicians ignore the poor. Why?
    1
  16395. Poor people work?
    1
  16396.  @earlviney5212  his or mine?
    1
  16397. You're right. I simply don't try
    1
  16398.  @wolfereignowns1154  no idiot thinks that. People are upset over the level of income inequality, not income inequality itself.
    1
  16399. I don't understand why people vote Republican
    1
  16400.  @NowAndToEternity  yeah gain new skills...with what money from a minimum wage job?
    1
  16401. It is called the fallacy of relative privation. People are making the argument based on well it was worse for me so it shouldn't be better for you
    1
  16402. But poor people cannot afford to run for office.
    1
  16403. Correct.
    1
  16404. Yep
    1
  16405. Then you want workers in poverty
    1
  16406. To avoid wage slavery?
    1
  16407. ​ @qnbdy I want to lose my virginity.
    1
  16408. I want that.
    1
  16409. POOR children. They love rich children.
    1
  16410. Jesus Christ.
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  16411. ​​ @thisismyrealname2860  people are paid by skill, not profitability. Even if every walmart store made $5 trillion in profits every nanosecond, they would still pay their cashiers $11/hr. You're acting like once a company crosses some profit threshold, they'll pay workers more.
    1
  16412.  @HashknightGaming  because he judges people on how hard they work. The idea is if you don't work hard then you have no value. A neurosurgeon making $900,000/yr is fine. A cashier making $90,000/yr is a rapist.
    1
  16413. Because they believe the poor and middle-class are a burden.
    1
  16414. The rich deserve billions because they're the investors / risk-takers where as the poor deserve nothing because they squander their Opportunity away.
    1
  16415.  @3rdEyeWide  so that's still a poverty wage then.
    1
  16416.  @3rdEyeWide  I don't understand why the minimum wage isn't $35/hr USD.
    1
  16417. I'm a freaking virgin at 29.
    1
  16418. I've met men with over 100 body count
    1
  16419. Just-world fallacy
    1
  16420. Because not everyone can move up or move on.
    1
  16421. I would put the prosecutors in jail for 23 years
    1
  16422. ​ @btetschner I'm late AGAIN because YouTube has forever screwed up my notifications. Yes. I AM CHANGING MY LIFE.
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  16423. My REPLIES ARE GONE​ @btetschner 
    1
  16424. I have been awarded a full tuition scholarship​ @btetschner 
    1
  16425. Labor costs are around 30%. Let's say it was far higher. 50%. The $7500(made during the day) Would've given each worker far more.
    1
  16426. Idk how many employees the store had or the number of hours open. However. Here's a better example. Chic fil a makes roughly $4.6 million a year. 50% of that divided evenly among 25-35 employees would be around $100,000 a year per worker.
    1
  16427. You want a cashier to be able to afford a family?
    1
  16428.  @rps1689  you're fine with a McDonald's worker owning a home?
    1
  16429.  @rps1689  yep. Conservatives complain about food stamps but not trillions in quantitative easing, tax cuts or corporate bailouts.
    1
  16430. If men could get laid as easily as women men would not use hookers so much.
    1
  16431. I'm a virgin at 29
    1
  16432. That's messed up
    1
  16433. Yep
    1
  16434.  @Eric-zi8sd  It costs more money in gas for them to travel than they would make from working minimum wage.
    1
  16435. ​ @Dim.g0v exactly
    1
  16436. Exactly.
    1
  16437. Wow​ @vincentharris7909 
    1
  16438.  @anthonythomas1165  ok
    1
  16439. Poor people are greedy for wanting a living wage.
    1
  16440. ​​ @TheDarwinProject1  correct.
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  16441. Because OP, I'll break it down for you. 1. Ideology- politicians base the value of people based on how hard they work. The idea that if you can't work hard or at all, then you have no value, is disgusting. 2. Economics- poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If robust welfare programs were in place, poor people won't work in fast food or retail, for minimum wage, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
    1
  16442. Prostitutes don't offer genuine affection.
    1
  16443. ​ @UniversalJuan  they believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
    1
  16444. Everyone can't move up or out from such jobs.
    1
  16445. ​ @eragon78  correct. But that's the provider: corporations want poverty to fuel their cheap goods.
    1
  16446. I'm an autistic virgin.
    1
  16447. Blame the government, not migrants.
    1
  16448. Ok
    1
  16449. And because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  16450.  @tammyjantzen9004  my replies are deleted but what I was saying was I believe everyone deserves healthcare, the problems are 1- corporations don't believe this 2- politicians don't because they're backed by corporations 3- heartless conservatives don't, because many are calvinists
    1
  16451. That's messed up.
    1
  16452.  @mazzith  it's a choice to believe that nonsense
    1
  16453.  @mazzith  and what about all the people that can't move up? There are not millions of high-paying jobs available for people to move into. And minimum wage jobs don't provide you with transferable skills or enough money to pursue a college education. Seems like you want there to be a permanent lower class of slaves.
    1
  16454.  @aaronmeyers451  no job should pay dirt low wages, none. And people already don't want to work a minimum wage jobs anyway.
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  16455.  @aaronmeyers451  inflation has nothing to do with the minimum wage. inflation comes from quantitative easing, yield curve control, and businesses jacking up prices to compensate for their profit losses due to the pandemic. The cost of consumer goods are not targeted towards minimum-wage workers. That's like arguing people who make Lamborghinis are making them for janitors.
    1
  16456.  @aaronmeyers451  what the market dictates? Sounds like typical capitalist propaganda. You act as if the market is some mysterious entity that's beyond understanding or control. Bottom lines is wages are set by people and can be changed. It's a societal choice to pay people so little.
    1
  16457.  @aaronmeyers451  it's a choice to believe minimum-wage jobs are starter jobs. It's a choice to create a business model around paying arbitrarily named entry-level labor, wages are all a choice.
    1
  16458.  @aaronmeyers451  McDonald's profit margins are slim for reasons that have nothing to do with entry level labor. Even if it did, Maybe if McDonald's accepted lower profit margins/stop having low level work they could afford to pay people more. You are aware places like Chick-fil-A make millions and millions of dollars at each store right? If they pay people according to the money they brought in cashiers would be making around $100,000 a year.
    1
  16459.  @aaronmeyers451  first off no one in this country should be making only $20 that's way too low. Second off, it is a choice to have a business model based around paying such low wages, it is a choice to raise prices, it is all a choice. It is not complicated, if we truly wanted everyone to make decent pay then they would just be paid decently.
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  16460.  @mazzith  okay...
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  16461.  @mazzith  how does that change what i said
    1
  16462. Correct.
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  16463.  @woodlandbiker  that's messed up.
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  16464.  @pencilme1n  if you taxed corporations 6x the amount spent on welfare...
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  16465. I'm 28. I've never dated, held hands, hugged, kissed, or had sex.
    1
  16466. Exactly.
    1
  16467. That's messed up.
    1
  16468. Corporations are the problem. They're the ones who want to pay people poverty wages. If they use automation or inflation as an excuse, then they can screw right off. Everyone cannot increase their skills. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Nobody is opposed to corporations making more money. What people are opposed to is corporations making more money at the expense of everybody else. I don't want to subsidize corporations paying slave wages.
    1
  16469. A sex worker doesn't like me.
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  16470. Yes. 70 million jobs pay $35,000 a year or less.
    1
  16471. Because conservatives only believe that rich people and business owners provide value to society, only they deserve government financial aid
    1
  16472. Exactly.
    1
  16473. Exactly
    1
  16474. ​ @juchou2983 yep
    1
  16475. I still haven't lost my virginity
    1
  16476. Correct.
    1
  16477. People want to work, just not for slave wages
    1
  16478. ​ @cookiebatter162 I'm a virgin at 29
    1
  16479. Yes
    1
  16480. The CORE problem IS employment. Over 40 million people $20 or less per hour. Millions more have close to no liquid assets to be able to live for even 1 year if the main source of income was abolished. While we have CEOs making $600 million a year and portfolio managers making $3.8 billion a year.
    1
  16481. ​@Anurag Chakraborty if you truly believe poverty is a choice, then you are incorrect and disgusting.
    1
  16482. they treat worker solidarity, not poverty, as unacceptable
    1
  16483.  @Rowsy91  can everyone at a grocery store all be promoted at once to management?
    1
  16484.  @Singularity.82  poverty kept them in line, so i could do nothing. I also worked 28 hours a week, because if I worked 32, I'd be eligible for benefits.
    1
  16485.  @Singularity.82  are you happy I was denied benefits or made $10.50?
    1
  16486.  @Singularity.82  many fix news pundits say I deserve poverty.
    1
  16487.  Michael Whyte  why is it impractical?
    1
  16488.  @leobigelow7021  I'm trying. Maybe tutor or something. I succeeded at screenwriting for a while.
    1
  16489. Exactly ​ @doomslayerdave 
    1
  16490. ​@MAJORITY...RULE101read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    1
  16491. Not really.
    1
  16492. Wow
    1
  16493. Sarcasm?
    1
  16494. then argue for experienced workers to make more. punch up, not down.
    1
  16495.  @snoglydox  you can't have it both ways. You can't expect the jobs to exist but criticize workers for not wanting to be in poverty. I didn't say pay cashiers $250,000/year. But not $25,000/year
    1
  16496.  @snoglydox  someone has to work at BK, whether someone can move up or not.
    1
  16497.  @alixthompson2836  I'll change then
    1
  16498. i have identified as incel for years. I am no an incel anymore(mindset) but I'm still a virgin. I know sex isn't a right. If i desire to have sex with women I must either pay for it or work for it. @alixthompson2836 
    1
  16499. Yep
    1
  16500. Yes
    1
  16501. LOL
    1
  16502. Tax corporations 2x-5x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits.
    1
  16503. You're happy at his misery?
    1
  16504. Wtf
    1
  16505. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
    1
  16506. I'm denied medicaid even though I'm poor.
    1
  16507. Incels don't wanna pay someone to pretend to like them.
    1
  16508. Exactly
    1
  16509. That messed up
    1
  16510.  @logansolares3699  so you support eugenics? You criticize people simply wanting freedom?
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  16511.  @GrandmaCathy  I do not believe that.
    1
  16512. @PhailedGamer  into trying to not be incel
    1
  16513.  @PhailedGamer  thank you.
    1
  16514. @PhailedGamer  1st thing I'll do is stop calling myself incel. The 2nd thing I'll do is not to have so much on my plate. The third thing I'll do is only change one thing out about my life at a time. I'll have only major life goal at a time.
    1
  16515. @PhailedGamer  I found a woman who wanted to date me about a year ago, but because I had no license or car. I couldn't meet up with her, and she didn't want to drive me around. Basically i messed up.
    1
  16516. Republicans believe poor women don't have a right to bear children
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  16517. @lindaswanson9328  republicans believe poor women don't deserve to have children.
    1
  16518. Holy crap.
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  16519. It's probable that getting out of poverty isn't due to a lack of effort on the poor's part.
    1
  16520. Most white collar jobs require a college degree, a high school degree doesn't cut it anymore.
    1
  16521. Poverty is a feature
    1
  16522. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    1
  16523. rich people thrive off of poverty
    1
  16524. Because conservatives believe on skilled workers don't deserve to make enough to live, they believe a living wage is only reserved for people who have a degree or more responsibility.
    1
  16525. Sounds like the fallacy of relative privation. Because it could've been and has been worse for others means the current situation can't or shouldn't be better.
    1
  16526. ​ @joeybaseball7352 not entirely
    1
  16527. Who is for the poor?
    1
  16528. ​ @Documentary81 yep
    1
  16529. Fox news only believes billionaires and business owners deserve government help.
    1
  16530. Just-world fallacy
    1
  16531. Because politicians support more money for the rich and less for the poor.
    1
  16532. It's $41,000 today.
    1
  16533. 680 hours of working at minimum wage today. 5600 hours today.
    1
  16534.  @BigJoe2354899  that's messed up. Don't you want them to live on their own?
    1
  16535. Who is anyone to decide what worth is? Worth is subjective.
    1
  16536. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. The reason I identified as incel is because I was having no success with women. I'm still having no success with women. I have been trying to lose my virginity since 2017, and I am no closer to it now than when I first started. Truthfully, I believe it's because I'm a loser. I have no driver's license / car / apartment. I also have no career / college degree / training certification. I have no interesting hobbies. No money or social life. I don't really go anywhere or do anything. I go to Community College, but that's online so there's no social connection there. I work, but as a cashier which leaves me poor and no social connection there. I'm an intern And I'm going to meet up with the other interns in a social setting next week so that's something.
    1
  16537. You're right. However employment comes from exploitation.
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  16538. No.
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  16539. He'd still be an incel afterwards. In order to not be incel, you must have REAL sex. Not paid sex, not pity sex, not forced sex, REAL sex, based on ATTTRACTION.
    1
  16540. You can't buy intimacy.
    1
  16541. I don't understand why it's so hard to do.
    1
  16542. He wants to stop poor people from advancement.
    1
  16543. Exactly
    1
  16544. This is a moral issue to you, not an economic one: you think it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn
    1
  16545. Corporations are the problem
    1
  16546. Women can get laid whenever they want
    1
  16547. Chic Fil A makes more than McDonald's per store. Their cashiers could make $100,000/yr.
    1
  16548. Yep.
    1
  16549. Exactly.
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  16550. It is.
    1
  16551. I'm growing up.
    1
  16552. That's evil
    1
  16553.  @ebonychan  I'm dealing with that myself.
    1
  16554. I know, but I'm poor and unskilled at 30 years old I can't change
    1
  16555. Lol
    1
  16556. Correct.
    1
  16557. Yes
    1
  16558. Wow
    1
  16559. It's easy to reduce poverty when you keep increasing the threshold for what classifies as poverty.
    1
  16560. I'd tax corporations 5x the amount the government spends on welfare.
    1
  16561. How about we raise the minimum wage too. I'm in North Carolina making $10.50/hr.
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  16562.  @RedPillGrimReaper  living wage: enough money for individuals and their families to live without needing or wanting welfare or charity. Based on the official poverty level.
    1
  16563.  @RedPillGrimReaper  what's wrong with you? The poverty level. A living wage would be equal to or exceed this number. For a single person that's $15k, for a family of five that's $36k. The poverty level is kept too low, it should be double what it is now. You can simply Google the poverty level and a living wage on mit.
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  16564.  @RedPillGrimReaper  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. For the 10,000th time. I would like to know how being a cashier gives you the skills needed to be an engineer or lawyer.
    1
  16565. Exactly ​ @conniemcfalls4357 
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  16566. Then this is a moral issue to you: you believe poor people don't deserve to make all that money. You believe you have the right to tell others how much money they deserve to make.
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  16567.  @BigislandEJ  there are literally millions of adults working so called "entry-level" jobs. We all make sacrifices, yes, but no matter how hard some people try, they cannot escape low level work. This is the equivalent of expecting all city cops to become police chief if they simply tried harder. What you're really arguing for, is for some people to live in poverty. Case in point: you being more upset over not having cheap prices than workers having a livable wage. I'm in community college, albeit at 29, but I'm pursuing education still. So, what? I'm at fault for not wanting to be poor/restricted to low level jobs for the next four years/welfare?
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  16568. Acceptable risk
    1
  16569. ​@joshua wall the minimum wage is still $7.25/hr in North Carolina. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. $15/hr as an intern.
    1
  16570. Yep
    1
  16571.  @angeleyesgreen1586  it's called collusion
    1
  16572. Idk how collusion is allowed
    1
  16573. That's messed up.
    1
  16574. Ok
    1
  16575. When I went to community college 10 years ago I had to rely on medicaid since higher education doesn't offer adequate healthcare. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom. She ultimately passed away. the stress from this caused me to flunk out and lose financial aid and not get it back despite them knowing what happened to my mom. Screw this POS country.
    1
  16576. Yes
    1
  16577. ​ @vamoscruceros exactly
    1
  16578. I'm not afraid of having sex. I keep getting rejected.
    1
  16579. Basically they're bringing up another point: that many jobs are low wage, "entry level" work.
    1
  16580. That's messed up
    1
  16581. it's called survivorship bias.
    1
  16582. I don't understand what republicans get out of causing harm to those who aren't rich.
    1
  16583.  @mariahyohannes  That's so low
    1
  16584. ​ @puckutubesux7356 I'm 28 and a virgin.
    1
  16585. ​ @puckutubesux7356 I want to lose my virginity.
    1
  16586. I know
    1
  16587. Yes
    1
  16588. First Is mean. 30k Is the median
    1
  16589. Yes but Shapiro supports more money for the rich and less money for the poor.
    1
  16590.  @1TalldrinkH2O  someone has to work there, unless you want there to be complete automation of all low wage jobs.
    1
  16591.  @Baiji-xu8jc  nobody wants equal pay for everyone. Everyone wants cashiers and doctors though. We want society's dirty work to be done without poverty, not with it.
    1
  16592.  @stitch438  everyone deserves to be able to afford the necessities of life, whether or not they work.
    1
  16593. Having a kid is a right. ​ @Digger-Nick 
    1
  16594.  @ton10291  then you should have no problem with automation.
    1
  16595. Landlords can be banned from raising prices or taxed.
    1
  16596. Correct
    1
  16597. What you will have to fight to change the system is two fold: greed and Calvinism Greedy corporations who profit off of sick people and poverty Conservatives who are calvinists and see the poor as deserving of eternal damnation and despair
    1
  16598. Yep.
    1
  16599. ​ @Ronnys_Tales inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  16600. I'm a self-proclaimed incel reading every comment and this statement made me cry. It's my own fault for being a virgin.
    1
  16601.  @valerielhw  Medicaid is hated because poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
    1
  16602.  @valerielhw  it's about doing society's dirty work. If you eliminate the risk of medical debt, people won't accept jobs that don't offer health insurance or only have healthcare tied to work. I'm poor, but poor people like myself can't afford to run for office and are ignored by politicians, so I don't vote.
    1
  16603.  @valerielhw  politicians want poverty, illegal immigration, no universal healthcare, and unaffordable college education in order to force poor people into dogshit minimum wage jobs and other lowerend jobs at low pay.
    1
  16604.  @valerielhw  Republicans think disabled people are a burden since they are unable to work, and want them to die off. So Republicans want poor people to be forced to work or starve, and want disabled people to starve. These heartless politicians believe poor and disabled people (immigrants too) don't deserve autonomy, to have anything. My brother is disabled, he needs Medicaid as well. And the shitty marriage penalty is terrible.
    1
  16605.  @valerielhw   @valerielhw  Republicans think disabled people are a burden since they are unable to work, and want them to die off. So Republicans want poor people to be forced to work or starve, and want disabled people to starve. These heartless politicians believe poor and disabled people (immigrants too) don't deserve autonomy, to have anything. My brother is disabled, he needs Medicaid as well. And the shitty marriage penalty is terrible.
    1
  16606.  @valerielhw I hate YouTube deleting my comments
    1
  16607.  @valerielhw  yep my replies are gone time and time again
    1
  16608.  @valerielhw   @valerielhw  Republicans think disabled people are a burden since they are unable to work, and want them to die off. So Republicans want poor people to be forced to work or starve, and want disabled people to starve. These heartless politicians believe poor and disabled people (immigrants too) don't deserve autonomy, to have anything. My brother is disabled, he needs Medicaid as well. And the shitty marriage penalty is terrible.
    1
  16609.  @valerielhw  I said the government hates poor and disabled people having autonomy. I just don't see a reason to vote. America will not support healthcare or education or welfare being a constitutional right like voting or freedom of speech.
    1
  16610.  @valerielhw  basically rich people and politicians want poverty to ensure society's dead-end jobs get done
    1
  16611. That isn't the case in North Carolina. And even if it was, I need welfare and charity in order to survive while going to community college.
    1
  16612. Minimum wage is $7.25/hr.
    1
  16613.  @hyperfox4494  that's still 0 since I can't live off of it.
    1
  16614. @hyper fox  true. I've had the opportunity to work for a biotechnology company, be a film writer. And be a journalist.
    1
  16615.  @hyperfox4494  I never took those job opportunities.
    1
  16616. ​ @YorkieTherapyOnline wow
    1
  16617. Epic stupidity.
    1
  16618. Win win situation.
    1
  16619. What's MSM?
    1
  16620.  @raywilkinson3129  oh those lying bastards
    1
  16621. Not everyone can be a plumber or wants to be or should be.
    1
  16622.  @markzuckergecko621  why does it matter what type of degree it is?
    1
  16623.  @markzuckergecko621  labor markets change daily. There's no way to control what happens in a particular job field.
    1
  16624.  @markzuckergecko621  that's like trying to control the weather
    1
  16625.  @markzuckergecko621  if a degree is worthless it should be free. You can predict the weather but can't control it. And that is my main point.
    1
  16626. Snap in NC has work requirements, so I lost them while attending community college.
    1
  16627.  @hunternedib1119  designs can change.
    1
  16628.  @iamcosma7065  you're a troll.
    1
  16629. That's evil
    1
  16630.  @Abcq755  there you go.
    1
  16631. Yep.
    1
  16632. I don't understand why poor people vote Republican.
    1
  16633.  @gustavocvieira8584  you literally are advocating for poverty.
    1
  16634. This video is about survivorship bias.
    1
  16635. Exactly.
    1
  16636. ​ @8675-__  that's no guarantee of success.
    1
  16637. The idea that if you just work hard enough things will turn out fine, is a classic example of the just-world fallacy.
    1
  16638. You still need money to attend those, and they don't cover living expenses at all.
    1
  16639. I'm a virgin at 29.
    1
  16640.  @Iigua  I'm better, life is just difficult since I've decided to grow up. Plus, catch up from earlier mistakes in my youth.
    1
  16641.  @Iigua  thanks. I'll stay strong.
    1
  16642.  @Iigua  is using a prostitute wrong?
    1
  16643. ​ @cdevidal that's the fallacy of relative privation
    1
  16644. Rich= top 1% The millionaires and billionaires. $600k a year salary makes you rich in NC. I'm poor because I make 10.50/hour.
    1
  16645.  @cdevidal  you're trolling because $10/hour is extreme poverty in USA.
    1
  16646. That's messed up.
    1
  16647. That's messed up.
    1
  16648. Yep
    1
  16649. I've done that and I'm a virgin at 28.
    1
  16650. Republicans hate the poor.
    1
  16651. @Senseless mind  because Republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class. They're ideologically opposed to it.
    1
  16652.  @queerbotanicalqueen  exactly.
    1
  16653. Yep.
    1
  16654. It implies you believe in just-world fallacy
    1
  16655. Exactly
    1
  16656.  @AxionSmurf  I live in NC
    1
  16657. I stopped voting a few years ago. I'm in NC as well.
    1
  16658. I don't understand why people vote.
    1
  16659.  @TheJesselopez1981  that's messed up
    1
  16660. I don't understand your point. It's ideological: if you're working, you won't be poor.
    1
  16661.  @tylerharris4392  thank you.
    1
  16662. You're right
    1
  16663. I'm poor They won't listen to me
    1
  16664. Yep.
    1
  16665. Try $100,000 a year. Per cashier.
    1
  16666.  @paperip1996  correct
    1
  16667.  @paperip1996  Would you be upset if cashiers made a $100,000 a year?
    1
  16668.  @paperip1996  Many people believe that cashiers are lazy people and don't deserve a decent life.
    1
  16669. ​ @kevincorr2985 yep
    1
  16670. Correct.
    1
  16671. Lol I don't go on tirades.
    1
  16672. You are correct, which is why my state of North Carolina has done nothing to stop home ownership prices from going up from corporate buyouts.
    1
  16673. Makes me sad
    1
  16674. Ok
    1
  16675. ​ @austria-hungary4981 ok
    1
  16676. Wrong. Help POOR people.
    1
  16677. Because it won't work.
    1
  16678. Yep. I've been told my personality keeps me incel.
    1
  16679. No one wants cashiers to be comfortable.
    1
  16680. ​ @progressivefrog3681 thank you
    1
  16681. They would be crying.
    1
  16682. I've tried but I'm still a virgin at 28 YEARS OLD.
    1
  16683. ​@Tazmanian all right. It seems sex isn't a panacea for all the world's problems.
    1
  16684. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
    1
  16685. They have done the math. The point of restrictions on welfare is simple: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  16686. I bet. I dealt with the same thing when I last worked at a supermarket.
    1
  16687. I was a cashier making $10.50/hr. I worked 28 hours because at 32, I'd receive benefits.
    1
  16688. They also offered health insurance but made it so expensive that no one working minimum wage could afford it. Only upper management could. But if you reached upper management, the c levelers made it affordable but made the coverage so limited that it didn't apply to kids, thus making the health insurance worthless again. 401k was at 0% match for minimum wage workers, making it worthless as a perk. Not to mention, my employers knew I could never afford to retire on such low wages. Upper management didn't have their 401k matched either.
    1
  16689.  @user-em6ie2be7x  if poor people don't have children
    1
  16690. That's obvious....
    1
  16691.  @randrade89  His real message is merit's definition and evaluation are nebulous and arbitrary, and ultimately unfair.
    1
  16692.  @randrade89  yes. So equality of opportunity is unachievable but desirable, while equality of outcome is undesirable but achievable.
    1
  16693. I need to stop staying incel and alone.
    1
  16694. I realized something terrible. Corporations hate unions because of power. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
    1
  16695.  @KATELA612  yep.
    1
  16696.  @KATELA612  so you agree with my thoughts?
    1
  16697. Not everyone has skills considering 43% of the country is in poverty
    1
  16698.  @tallyhorizzla3330  ok
    1
  16699. Conservatives don't believe you because in their eyes people make what they "deserve." They believe the system is working. Their just-world fallacy blinds them to reality and change.
    1
  16700. 60k is poor in California??
    1
  16701. Lol what is middle class? 450k?
    1
  16702. Yep​ @karliebellatrixyoung6359 
    1
  16703. It would.
    1
  16704. I've used tinder for years to no avail. I'm a virgin at 28.
    1
  16705. Yep.
    1
  16706.  @ErutaniaRose  my replies are gone
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  16707.  @ErutaniaRose  stay safe. I'm in poverty now, I'm trying not to give up. You give me hope
    1
  16708. ​ @Liberty_or_Death. Yep.
    1
  16709. ​ @dkupke exactly
    1
  16710.  @dkupke  ah that makes sense.
    1
  16711. We pay taxes to fund everything, UBI is no different.
    1
  16712. ​@dicky7600for $45 million a year salary, I'd lie too.
    1
  16713.  @rigoeats3654  that is the exception not the rule.
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  16714.  @rigoeats3654  a job can pay well regardless of "skill." I put that in quotation marks because that's what many people think a job is worth. Or think that's only the way to evaluate its significance.
    1
  16715.  @rigoeats3654  that is not the sole reason why people make more.
    1
  16716.  @rigoeats3654  yes...you are right.
    1
  16717.  @rigoeats3654  if you believe what you said then why do 44% of wage earners make $40k or less a year? Instead of $208k?
    1
  16718. Exactly.
    1
  16719. Screw corporations
    1
  16720. It's word salad.
    1
  16721. The reason conservatives oppose college debt relief is because of just-world fallacy. Since America is "already fair," then the only solution to any problem is simply working harder and accepting society as is.
    1
  16722. Wow
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  16723. Wages were going up...for the top 10%.
    1
  16724. That's messed up
    1
  16725. Wow
    1
  16726. It matters what something is, and minimum wage jobs ARE a lifeline for many people
    1
  16727. What?
    1
  16728.  @AlexKawa20  how would you feel if I won $389,000 of scholarship awards?
    1
  16729.  @nickthompson1812  I'm 28. I can't wait any longer.
    1
  16730. Because of greed.
    1
  16731. Employees don't have the freedom to negotiate.
    1
  16732.  @chrisp7110  lol mate. NYC has a living wage of over $100k, that's not even accounting for the cost of college or health care, or a house.
    1
  16733. And then be replaced with other under paid workers or the job is Vacant. Just say you're comfortable with some people, not making a living wage.
    1
  16734. Exactly.
    1
  16735. He can. He believes cashiers don't deserve to be middle class regardless of who is choosing to be them.
    1
  16736. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education grant?
    1
  16737. My replies are deleted. If I was awarded $20 million of scholarships, how would you feel?
    1
  16738. Yes
    1
  16739. Except it is as simple as raising wages, the problem is people don't believe minimum wage workers deserve to make enough to support a family, it's not about economics at all, it's about morals.
    1
  16740. If we had robust welfare programs that would've happened already.
    1
  16741. I'm 28 and a kissless virgin.
    1
  16742.  @UnnamedHumanOnEarth  I'm tired of being a virgin. I'm missing out on life.
    1
  16743. You're correct. I hope to win a full ride scholarship so I can obtain a Physics Degree. I'm using scholarships and my family to get through COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
    1
  16744. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education grant?
    1
  16745. You could never support yourself working minimum wage anywhere in the world.
    1
  16746. How does anyone get rejected by that many women😮
    1
  16747. Exactly.
    1
  16748. Exactly.
    1
  16749. Yes.
    1
  16750. That made me cry.
    1
  16751. Exactly.
    1
  16752.  Dewaldt  exactly.
    1
  16753. Bill Maher is high on stupid. Marijuana can't compete.
    1
  16754. You can't enforce this
    1
  16755. Meanwhile I'm still too poor to go to school.
    1
  16756.  @mantisliving  in a way they do because government regulations are what allow extreme wealth to exist.
    1
  16757.  @mantisliving  those two things are the same thing- dictating what people make can establish a higher wage floor(minimum wage) and lower wage ceiling(no billionaires). Although i know billionaires get wealthy from stocks/investments, not hourly pay.
    1
  16758. Yep.😊
    1
  16759.  @kennylanqua6512  preaching to the choir.
    1
  16760. Ok
    1
  16761. Republicans ideologically oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. period. republicans don't want to end poverty, but at the same time, they don't want poor people to be dead either.
    1
  16762. You need to learn the two cornerstones of republican ideology, just-world fallacy and calvinism. The former says that the world is already perfect and that outcomes are always fair. thus, rich people are morally superior. Poor people are lazy. This also affects their stance on crime. Since only bad people do crime, there is no need to focus on policies that deal with the causes of crime, only the effects.
    1
  16763. Correct.
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  16764. Poverty is not a feeling, it's an objective fact and economic indicator. Workers are paid by skill, not profitability.
    1
  16765. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  16766. Lol what is an entry-level job anyway to these clowns?
    1
  16767. Why?
    1
  16768. Exactly.
    1
  16769. worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once.
    1
  16770. I'm a virgin at 28.
    1
  16771. I don't know.
    1
  16772.  @yourmother2739  yes. Worker solidarity and poverty cannot both exist at once.
    1
  16773. Poverty can end overnight.
    1
  16774. No. Rich people shouldn't be the only ones who can go to college debt free
    1
  16775. Yes
    1
  16776. Because they want to lie about merit
    1
  16777. ​ @possumofantikka8160 that's epic. I'm on Medicaid now and it sucks. I can get my medicine but most doctors in my state don't accept Medicaid at all. I had to wait four months for a vision exam, and I can't buy glasses at all.
    1
  16778. Ok cool
    1
  16779. It's very simple. It is about their priorities. billionaires desire control over workers, and this requires poverty to exist. They are willing to spend twice whatever money they would spend on benefits on union busting instead because they don't want workers having power. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continuing poverty, that our political leaders refuse to allow. Billionaires would no longer have workers they could exploit through bad wages. And their goods and services would become more expensive and rarer.
    1
  16780. ​@kurisu7885yep
    1
  16781. Sex isn't important?
    1
  16782.  @Yomel123  ok..I want to lose my virginity
    1
  16783.  @Yomel123  ok cool
    1
  16784. Correct.
    1
  16785. The unskilled deserve far more.
    1
  16786. Yep
    1
  16787. How?
    1
  16788. Nope.
    1
  16789. Politicians know that they just don't care.
    1
  16790. Trade schools cost money too, even with financial aid. And university degrees would still be necessary even if trade schools costed nothing.
    1
  16791. Agreed and i live here.
    1
  16792. Handout is a moral term used to imply poor people don't deserve government assistance.
    1
  16793. I'm for car debt forgiveness.
    1
  16794. ​ @littlejourneyseverywhere the government wants disabled people to be in poverty because in their eyes, people who are unable to work are worthless
    1
  16795.  @Charlizzie  sure is.
    1
  16796.  @chromicapop4595  yes.
    1
  16797.  @megancollier1137  yes
    1
  16798. Ok​ @jayb4402 
    1
  16799. ​ @repeekyraidcero okay
    1
  16800.  @amberscoutstarwatcher  I forgot to mention religion too but yes. Many religious people despise the poor and disabled because they believe they don't respect marriage and traditional household structures.
    1
  16801.  @dlight9849  it's by design. The government wants disabled people to be in poverty or die off
    1
  16802. @crtoons79 many Americans believe if you're unable or unwilling to work then you have no value and don't deserve to be treated as human.
    1
  16803. @crtoons79 exactly
    1
  16804.  @nancienordwick4169  you're a troll and heartless.
    1
  16805.  @trinitysid  wow
    1
  16806.  @healthcarefails  you'll have to convince Americans to stop being ableist
    1
  16807.  @kurisu7885  because America is capitalist. Capitalists believe if you aren't willing to work Aren't able to work Use welfare or charity Then you have negative value and should be forced to experience poverty or death.
    1
  16808.  @clayraro  thank you for your feedback. My notifications are messed up
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  16809. ​ @kurisu7885 my replies ARE FUCKING DISAPPEARING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
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  16810. ​ @thecraftycyborg9024 that's by design though. Government wants disabled people to be forced to experience poverty or death. Politicians know disabled people are not equal and active members of society
    1
  16811.  @kurisu7885  because the Republicans only believe people who work deserve to be middle class. They do not care who is unable to work or why. They know disabilities are often not a choice.
    1
  16812.  @WonderWoman7770  the government doesn't want disabled people to survive, they want to kill disabled people.
    1
  16813.  @WonderWoman7770  I DO support welfare.
    1
  16814.  @WonderWoman7770  Republicans want disabled people to die off and not have government benefits.
    1
  16815.  @AlluminaOnyxia  yes. I believe the government should pay the price of taking care of its disabled people.
    1
  16816. Medicaid is limited in order to force poor people into minimum​wage jobs @Terrackhimself 
    1
  16817. @Moraca101  yes. I know.
    1
  16818. Apathy
    1
  16819. That's messed up. I'm low income working as a cashier making $10/hr and an intern making $15/hr. The former I works 28 hrs/week the latter I work 4 hrs/wk. If I don't find a scholarship soon I'll give up on life. I work, am still poor, and pay taxes for no reason.
    1
  16820.  @BatMan-oe2gh  spending on welfare.
    1
  16821. The real reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Welfare is tied to low wage work and administrative restrictions because otherwise, poor people won't work minimum wage jobs or jobs that put them in debt.
    1
  16822. I had medicaid, but because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health coverage to take care of my sick mom.
    1
  16823. Vote for poor people
    1
  16824. There's no such thing as a free market, the market is controlled by the government. Corporations are quasi-private entities.
    1
  16825. $40/hr over night
    1
  16826.  @carnivorepolice5-0  yeah because learning engineering on YouTube is the same accreditation as an engineering college degree. That's no different than saying that anyone can become a doctor if they just study online... Vs getting accreditation from med school.
    1
  16827.  @alexcarter2461  I can see my comment here.
    1
  16828.  @alexcarter2461  YouTube shadow bans comments so I can't see my own replies often
    1
  16829.  @alexcarter2461  I'm not paying for sex.
    1
  16830.  @jeffworob3453  i believe that avarice is a choice. Kamala Harris wouldn't accept $1 billion to help repeal the 19th amendment. This is really about priorities. It's about the fact that depriving people of affordable medicine is not unacceptable like depriving people of consent or voting is.
    1
  16831.  @WaddleTheWay  Hear me out: when i was watching movies i was thinking about JFK's speech "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do what for your country!" He's implying the truth to our political values lies in what we are willing to do. I realized he was and is wrong. The truth to our values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, the prices we are unwilling to pay, the consequences we do not like to tolerate. And you are saying it is supply chain sustainability, not overpriced healthcare, that you truly deem unacceptable.
    1
  16832.  @WaddleTheWay  women were denied voting for over one hundred years. Women had to fight against the hatred, slavery, rape, and other untold forms of suffering in order to create the America today, where women can not only vote, but do so much more. The America of 1920(19th amendment ratified)is completely unrecognizable to the America of today. In a way, women "nuked" the system. This fight over drug prices, is like women's suffrage, is like all of politics: about we truly desire deep down. I am telling you Kamala Harris does not truly find me unable to afford medicine without insurance(and for some people, even with insurance) wrong like rape or murder or kidnapping. Otherwise, it would not be accepted at all, just like rape or kidnapping isn't. I can't make people change, but i can show them how to change.
    1
  16833.  @Alessioo7  yep.
    1
  16834.  @tedg1278  I didn't know executive order could do that.
    1
  16835.  @michaelarmijo4112  they can.
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  16836. @tedg1278  wow. By the way, I hope you agreed with my arguments: about how avarice is a choice. Because every person in this country knows the VP wouldn't accept $1 billion to deny women voting. So when defense contractors and big pharmaceutical companies accept money to deprive people of peace and Healthcare, those are choices.
    1
  16837. ​ @tedg1278 then biden is evil for not lifting a finger.
    1
  16838. Yep
    1
  16839. Yep.
    1
  16840. Politicians would get beat up.
    1
  16841. Yep
    1
  16842. I don't know
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  16843. Then 400k is far above middle class.
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  16844. nope. the owner paid his workers the gross sales plus covered the operating expenses for the day out of his own pocket plus it was a holiday so the store was busier than usual.
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  16845. ​ @derimmerlugt3032 yep
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  16846. Crime
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  16847. I cry for being in poverty.
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  16848. It isn't greed. It's power. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
    1
  16849. Stupidity
    1
  16850.  @katetrompvanholst1772  because that's the point.. To perpetuate poverty
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  16851.  @Anon54387  steven crowder
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  16852. Correct.
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  16853. Worker solidarity is unacceptable to them.
    1
  16854. ​ @oliviaroseink ok then
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  16855. Not everyone can work their way up to management. Not everyone can even work. Minimum wage jobs don't give you skills.
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  16856. No it wouldn't because you can't buy intimacy.
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  16857. Idk
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  16858. Nerf guns.
    1
  16859. ​ @TheNinthGeneration1 exactly
    1
  16860. Holy crap.
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  16861. It's about power and control. Without poverty, workers could reject dead-end jobs.
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  16862. I'll help you understand. Above all else the government promotes capitalism, they are fine subsidizing the lives of people who can support themselves but not people who rely on taxes. Since the poor and disabled often rely on taxation, the government views both groups as a burden. So the government is trying to imply that poverty and motherhood are incompatible.
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  16863. My dream physics experiment is the creation of a Planck Temperature Particle collider.
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  16864. I cried reading this. I lost my mom at 28, and I was her caretaker because Medicaid didn't want to take care of her, and private insurance companies refused her treatments as well since she lacked the ability to pay. I have been struggling to complete community college for over four years because I helped take care of her. In the process, I failed classes, lost financial aid, lost my mom, didn't get financial aid back, any other school assistance and am forced onto Medicaid and other welfare again .
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  16865. Sometimes I want to drop out of school and give up on life, I want to be a physicist
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  16866. LOL the stupidity of the politicians.
    1
  16867. That's messed up.
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  16868. It should be written in the constitution, that one job must pay enough to not live in poverty.
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  16869.  @johnveitch7410  it's still Terrible.
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  16870.  @gabrielmcgaha2379  I said "I don't vote." Not "I don't vote for her(Kamala)." I don't vote at all at any level of government because both parties focus almost exclusively on the middle class.
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  16871.  @FoulDream  you need a job for Obamacare. I'm a broke student. Republicans hate Medicaid, or any universal healthcare system because poor people will refuse minimum wage jobs when welfare programs are robust .
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  16872.  @FoulDream  I can't see my replies.
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  16873.  @codyanderson6249  tax credits don't solve the underlying problem of low wages. They are welfare for employers since both parties know it subsidizes low wages. The core problem is corporations. They want to depress wages and make people dependent. It's why corporate America hates living wages, robust welfare programs, unions, universal healthcare, etc. Anything that makes workers less desperate corporations hate. I don't think she supports a living wage minimum wage since Biden was vice president for four years and president for almost four and has done nothing about it.
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  16874.  @FoulDream  I don't qualify for food stamps because I don't work. I don't qualify for section 8 housing because I'm enrolled in higher education. I'm forced onto Medicaid because of Medicaid expansion. Medicaid isn't accepted by most doctors. And scholarships and grants don't cover the full cost of living. And minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  16875.  @26michaeluk  okay
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  16876. Benefits
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  16877. I'm 29 now
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  16878. I'd tax corporations 3x-6x the amount their employees used in welfare benefits. Maybe THEN they'll care about the poor and middle class.
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  16879.  @brainstewX  they'd go bankrupt. Either they'd pay higher wages or higher taxes.
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  16880.  @brainstewX  then dissolve the company if that's their retaliation. Or mandate a living wage minimum wage, for all workers and their households. Corporations can be forced to either pay higher taxes or higher wages, if they retaliate they'll be shut down.
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  16881. I can't change the system because I'm poor
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  16882.  @ToonCrate  that's messed up.
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  16883. All jobs I can get with a high school diploma alone are near minimum wage.
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  16884.  @DimaRakesah  correct. "Burger flippers" are treated like rapists.
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  16885. I can't see the comment someone posted here.
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  16886.  @gothboschincarnate3931  if it is prosperous why am I in poverty?
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  16887.  @kathleenmichelet6493  I'm not alone.
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  16888.  @triciac1019  what he said or what I said?
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  16889. Yep
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  16890. I'm incel. This is wrong.
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  16891. Only way executive orders cannot be vetoed by Congress is either constitution is amended to change Congress's powers or 22nd amendment is repealed so the same party can be in the executive branch.
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  16892.  @stevenbaumann8692  But if Congress vetoes the EO then the president can do nothing. And EOs can't go directly against existing amendments.
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  16893.  @stevenbaumann8692  So I'm confused then. So if Biden raised minimum wage to $45/hr or made college free you're telling me Congress can do nothing? NOTHING
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  16894.  @stevenbaumann8692  no i mean after the EO issued. can't congress over ride the EO?
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  16895. ​ @theboldandthebeautiful3729 exactly
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  16896. The reason we don't have robust welfare programs is because then nobody would work shitty minimum wage jobs.
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  16897. I'm a cashier at a supermarket. I work 28 hours a week which is full-time. Why not 40? Because I'd be eligible for benefits. So I'm paid $10/hr, given a $0.05 raise, denied benefits, and given to way to move up or move on. I hate USA so much.
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  16898. Yep
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  16899. No. I'm an incel myself.
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  16900. ​@bakatobijuu I've tried for years to lose my virginity but nothing has worked.
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  16901. ​@bakatobijuu to be fair. I'm poor and thus do not go out much. Besides community college.
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  16902. Won't help. If I have to pay a woman to sleep with me that means she doesn't like me
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  16903. ​ @AsifKhan-hf9zy he thinks minimum wage workers deserve poverty
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  16904.  @charlesg7926  based on luck..
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  16905. There's already a living wage calculator that's available to the public.
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  16906. Dems are cowards.
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  16907.  @patchwurk6652  that's messed up. These are people's lives....
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  16908.  @jaym10918  so they're putting corporate interests ABOVE their voters?
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  16909. That's messed up that such debt can be canceled so easily but isn't
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  16910.  @cat-.-  so taxes create a demand for us currency?
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  16911. It's only the rich and poor.
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  16912. ​ @FishAesthetic yep
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  16913.  @LeejaMiller  thank you!
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  16914. Correct
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  16915.  @kirvo11985  most workers can't bargain on their own.
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  16916.  @kirvo11985  I don't know what you are talking about. Unless you are mute you can easily ask any employer to pay you $15 an hour or $20. The problem isn't about lack of communication it's about lack of power. Most workers have limited skills and immediate needs, compared to corporations who can operate indefinitely regardless of job loss or poverty levels. And certainly keep any department or position vacant indefinitely. I'm a cashier. I have no power to demand $35/hr on my own. I would in a union or a higher minimum wage, but not in my current situation.
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  16917.  @kirvo11985  they're asking me to gain skills in a job that offers no such thing. If they get to ask for the impossible why is it wrong for me to ask for the impossible right back? And it's funny you mentioned benefits because they do offer that, but they force you to be part-time so you're ineligible. In other words, you only get benefits from being full-time.
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  16918.  @kirvo11985  I could become a screenwriter with enough hard work. And physics professor too. I just....have got to stop being so entitled.
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  16919.  @kirvo11985  okay. I just will find it difficult to balance it with being in college. Or I have to put in the work to apply to grants and scholarships. Or do both.
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  16920.  @kirvo11985  basically if I tried hard enough I could find be a trade worker/screenwriter/have a scholarship.
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  16921. Yep
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  16922. Right.
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  16923. Because the sheer implication is that poor people don't deserve college education.
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  16924. LOL we'd have a $45/hr minimum wage then.
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  16925. ​ @lovelesscosplay7864 why aren't female incels aa famous?
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  16926. or rather they don't real work since they don't get paid by the hour nor are they paid based on skill.
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  16927. No because you can't buy intimacy or affection
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  16928. According to Republicans they're lazy.
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  16929. It's about money. Poor people make up 44% of the population but aren't in Congress. I can't afford to run making $10.50/hr.
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  16930. Idk how he is so popular.
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  16931.  @anegron3285  I'm aware. It's why I don't vote.
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  16932.  @anegron3285  yes
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  16933. Ok​ @anegron3285 
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  16934. Wow.
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  16935. It's about priorities.
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  16936. Yep.
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  16937. College students are grown adults.
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  16938. Ok
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  16939. I don't think that'd help me since a hooker doesn't like me. And most other incels feel entitled to sex.
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  16940. You're able-bodied you sicko. You believe poor people don't deserve help. Many poor people do work but still can't afford healthcare.
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  16941. Single people who can work can't be poor? Dumb argument.
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  16942. ​ @Freedom_Half_Off LOL EXACTLY.
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  16943.  @esteemedmortal5917  corporations want immigration for cheap labor.
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  16944. Those jobs could pay way more than minimum wage. Being "entry-level" isn't an excuse for wage slavery.
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  16945.  @BenShapirosLowerLip  That isn't true and you know it. Effort is not reward
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  16946.  @BenShapirosLowerLip  They pay low because the employees have too little bargaining power and people take the jobs due to too few options
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  16947.  @BenShapirosLowerLip  That's skill not effort. You can be unskilled and work hard. And the workers produce far more value than $7.25 an hour. The problem is people like you think they don't deserve decent pay.
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  16948.  @BenShapirosLowerLip  That is your problem, you should not need a degree or training to make a basic living wage. And as if college is affordable or healthcare or children. People cannot manifest money out of thin air.
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  16949.  @BenShapirosLowerLip  I never said don't work hard, i never said pay everyone the same, what i said is every worker deserves a basic living wage.
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  16950.  @BenShapirosLowerLip  Stop making assumptions that have nothing to do with what I said. Me using internet has nothing to do with my argument. Your belief is simply illogical-you believe some jobs have value and others do not. Nobody complains about CEOs and other rich people getting billions but our poorest workers getting an extra $7 an hour is like the start of World War 3.
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  16951.  @AliciaGuitar  yes
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  16952.  @AliciaGuitar  so did i
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  16953. Correct..
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  16954. a more accurate measure puts 140 million people in poverty.
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  16955. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept
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  16956. Exactly.
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  16957. Wtf?
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  16958. I'd have to make over $30 an hour to be able to afford all of that without government assistance.
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  16959. Nope
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  16960. They aren't entry-level jobs anymore. Not enough promotions for everyone.
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  16961. 44% of workers make barely above minimum wage and 2.3% should be 0%.
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  16962.  @douglasdingwall4915  there are over 100 million workers in USA. 2.3% is still MILLIONS of people. That's unacceptable no matter the percentage.
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  16963.  @douglasdingwall4915  first off everybody makes mistakes. Second off you're ignoring my point that not everyone can be promoted at once. If I told all cops to become police chief at once and when most of them fail does that mean they're lazy? No. There aren't enough promotions for every cop. No promotions are not always earned. Minimum wage jobs are not temporary when they make up a bulk of jobs which exist. I've already grown up. I'm disgusted at how poverty "cannot" end. When poverty is a policy choice, just like women's suffrage.
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  16964.  @douglasdingwall4915  44% of workers make $35,000/yr or less. 73% make $55k. That's above minimum wage but not by much. In Tennessee, 97% of the 250,000 open jobs pay ABOVE minimum wage but BELOW $20,000/yr.
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  16965.  @douglasdingwall4915  I am well aware that Biden doesn't give a damn about me. Hell, my own state governor doesn't care about He'll,. Truth be told I have to work harder to escape the poverty I am in.
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  16966. Conservatives believe the rich deserve infinite money but the poor deserve nothing.
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  16967. Because all welfare in the USA has restrictions that prevent poor people from accessing them.
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  16968. Reading this is why I want to be a journalist.
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  16969. Beautiful
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  16970. Employees have too little bargaining power.
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  16971. That's the point: to keep out non wealthy people.
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  16972.  @ZaShiesty  yes.. Money to help the poor escape poverty....that would be the point.
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  16973.  @ZaShiesty  ok
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  16974. Yes.
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  16975. Yep
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  16976. I cry reading that.
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  16977. ​ @tenacious645  exactly
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  16978. It's about power. There's a power differential. No CEO makes less than $400k. No cashier makes above $40k.
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  16979. Laffer hates the poor
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  16980. Money is the main barrier. And people shouldn't have had to deal with student debt in the first place. You have to be lucky to get a scholarship
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  16981.  @realJB  there aren't enough for every poor person to college. And most scholarships don't provide a full ride anyway.
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  16982.  @realJB  applying for a scholarship is not the same as being accepted....
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  16983.  @realJB  yes...they do owe free college.... It's still unlikely to get a full ride anyway
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  16984.  @realJB  how many did you apply to?
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  16985.  @realJB  what have I done for my country? I work and pay taxes. You are aware that workers pay over $10 trillion a year in taxes correct? That's literally....doing your part for society.
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  16986. ​@9TDF nothing you've said changes the fact someone has to work at McDonald's.
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  16987. Correct.
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  16988. The problem is inflation is used to punish workers for gaining more bargaining power.
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  16989. Exactly.
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  16990. Exactly
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  16991. I'm trying to win scholarships and grants
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  16992. No
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  16993. I have hobbies, yes. But I want to lose my virginity more than anything. I'm also too poor to have a social life
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  16994. Beautiful
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  16995. Ok
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  16996. You believe in just-world fallacy because not everyone can be promoted out of a low wage job.
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  16997. Experience is not a skill set. Education and responsibility are the only skills that increase your salary. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  16998. Because conservatives believe you give the rich more money to get them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  16999. The cost of UBI isn't the problem, but the benefits: UBI would empower the poor without regards to whether they worked or not.
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  17000. My replies are gone
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  17001.  @BryanRezendez  it doesn't matter the funding mechanism, the end result is the same core problem with welfare: any income grant that provides a substantial standard of living for the poor (food, housing, health insurance) pays more than minimum wage jobs. Politicians don't want the minimum wage to exceed income grants but don't want the income grants to be abolished either.
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  17002.  @BryanRezendez  I don't know how else to explain comparative advantage. Whatever source of money is substantially larger people will gravitate towards/rely upon. If the income grant is 1,000x larger than the salary, then the grant is preferred. If the salary is 1,000x larger than the grant, then the salary is preferred. Minimum wage jobs paying $7-12/hr do not pay anywhere near enough to equal or exceed any income grant(regardless of how it is funded), that covers the cost of housing, healthcare, college tuition, childcare, or food in this country. Let alone all of these things at once.
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  17003.  @BryanRezendez  magic? You do realize welfare works this way right now, right? Which is what I already said. Food stamps, Medicaid, etc. pay more than minimum wage jobs.
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  17004.  @BryanRezendez  my replies are gone. What I said was welfare is this now: income grants that pay MORE than minimum wage jobs. That's freaking my only point. It doesn't matter if welfare costed $1, if you can afford healthcare through a grant, then no low wage job in existence can take its place.
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  17005.  @BryanRezendez  oh okay. I wouldn't mind either. I understand your frustration that UBI can't be realistically funded. My frustration is that any welfare that does what you do(afford healthcare) is more lucrative than working minimum wage jobs, thus poor people don't work them. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier, with private insurance being $436 a month, not counting dental or vision. I'm now on Medicaid and simply don't work in such jobs Anymore.
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  17006. Crazy.
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  17007. It's worse than that. Those same people that think poverty is a moral failing thinks being disabled makes you useless since you're unable to work. You're worth even less than the poor ​ @christopherhughes8402 
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  17008. You mean convince people to not take low paying jobs?
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  17009. Lol.
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  17010. The truth of government handouts is an ideological problem, not an economic one. It's called just-world fallacy. Rich people have "succeeded" within the system that works, so they "deserve" government help. Whereas poor people have "failed," so any government help is "undeserving."
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  17011. Then you want poverty. The truth of our values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that we find unacceptable.
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  17012. That's messed up.
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  17013. ​@Cassady well I can escape being a cashier, even with only a high school diploma. I've succeeded as a screenwriter, and I was offered to apply to entry-level biotechnology jobs(biotechnology corporation).
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  17014. ​ @cassady7169  I just need to stop feeling entitled to the good life. But at the same time I recognize not everyone can escape being a cashier.
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  17015.  @thaisstone5192  to push disabled people into poverty for so long that they either die or give up.
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  17016.  @thaisstone5192  to push disabled people into poverty or an early grave.
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  17017. Poverty​ @thaisstone5192 
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  17018.  @waynehartlerode8936  if you think billionaires and doctors would waste their time to get benefits that would put them in poverty you are moronic. Disabled people don't need to be treated like dogs
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  17019. Holy crap
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  17020. ​ @vladimirofsvalbard9477 no.
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  17021. Poverty is a policy choice.
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  17022. I believe college education is expensive for two reasons 1. Make more money for rich people 2. Lock hard working, intelligent poor people out of college so they can't compete with lazy rich people.
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  17023. Politicians want poverty
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  17024. Yep.
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  17025. High school students don't deserve poverty. Noone does.
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  17026.  @bkwil6078  go to school? College is neither free nor cheap. "Burger flippers?" So cashiers are worse than rapists now? This is a moral issue to many people, not an economic one.
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  17027. Able-bodied is a moral term.
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  17028. Wrong.
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  17029. Lie by omission
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  17030.  @christopherconkright1317  the companies but also rich people like Maher.
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  17031.  @Fatelvis2  $17 an hour is barely above a living wage for a single person in my city. I would have to work full time too, which I can't because then I'm eligible for benefits as a cashier. And then on top of that I go to school at the same time so I can't work full time and go to school full time at once anyway. I live in a household of four, for me to support them with me being the only one working a living wage is $55 an hour. Actually it would have to be increased to 75 based on the fact I work 28 hours a week. To pay for college in a few months like you used to be able to do on minimum wage, I would have to make $88 per hour.
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  17032.  @Fatelvis2  That's because people make maybe one or two dollars more than minimum wage. Oh I don't have a family of four I was just mentioning that as an extreme example. I would need 17 an hour. Which you can't make as a cashier or janitor. Like I said for me to afford college now on my own I would have to make $88 an hour to pay for college tuition and state and $217 an hour to pay for college out of state.
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  17033.  @Fatelvis2  150K a year? I think something like 60% of Americans make, as a household, 75k a year or less. Places like McDonald's in Chick-fil-A make enough for profits to pay their workers that much, but then if they made that much many people would be upset that they don't deserve it. I don't know how to simply wipe out all low wage work because it's just trading off one set of benefits for another.
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  17034.  @Fatelvis2  oh ok. I misunderstood you then.
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  17035. $783? That's ALL?!
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  17036. Out of touch rich people.
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  17037. Same
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  17038.  @LilyBecca  I see.
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  17039.  @LilyBecca  I just turned 29. I'm still a kissless virgin. I've gone to bars, but I don't approach women. I'm not allowed into swingers clubs because single straight men aren't allowed.
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  17040. ​ @katiekane5247 thanks
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  17041. Star trek. People do things they enjoy.
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  17042. A living wage has been calculated.
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  17043. @tfde1  it's based on family composition, location. Look up MIT living wage calculator.
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  17044.  @tfde1  which is still is. 1. Most minimum wage employers keep you part-time to avoid receiving health insurance. No way you can pay healthcare out of pocket making minimum wage. You can't pay housing either. Or to help sick or disabled people. Or tuition. 2. Or in my case, all of those things at once. 3. Last spring, i made $10/hr as a cashier at a supermarket. I got a $0.50 raise. By keeping me less than 32 hours a week, i received no health or retirement benefits. I was also taking 3 classes at two different colleges at once. the community didn't want to offer me financial assistance even though my mom died and I lost everything. and 4 year schools don't provide financial assistance unless you're pursuing a degree full-time, which i wasn't. So i was taking 3 classes, working as a cashier($10.50/hr), being an intern($900/semester), volunteering, and helping take care of my sick mom, all at once. I was in poverty then and now.
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  17045. I'm trying to lose my virginity.
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  17046. I want to get laid, but I'm unable. Or rather, I'm too poor and lazy.
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  17047. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
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  17048. Because you are not seeing the real reason conservatives oppose welfare: because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Corporations pretend to oppose illegal immigrants, but what Corporations really want is access to workers who will work for low rates of pay.
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  17049. The governor understands the constitution. He simply wants to bypass it.
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  17050. Since there's an inequality of bargaining power, yes it is the government's job.
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  17051. Sounds like you believe in the fallacy of relative privation
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  17052. So expect poor people to work minimum wage jobs for the rest of their life and be happy, or expect them to go to college and have a chance at getting a degree and a better job. So you're mad at them for wanting to escape poverty either way?
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  17053. You misunderstand Republicans. When they say "get a better job" they're implying only certain jobs are valuable, only certain jobs important. A cashier deserves to be poor, a doctor deserves to be rich. Also conservatives believe in Just-world fallacy...raising minimum wage is implying poverty is a systemic problem where as telling people to "get better jobs" is shifting the blame of poverty to the individual.
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  17054.  @uche007us  with welfare. Which is another problem.
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  17055. No
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  17056. ​ @UnfoundFilms I don't refer to women as objects.
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  17057. The point of work requirements is exactly that- to force more people into minimum wage jobs.
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  17058. I don't understand
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  17059. Wtf.
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  17060. Yep
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  17061.  @johnbriggs3916  it's just so much money to make when most people don't make $100,000 a YEAR.
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  17062. Profit sharing
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  17063. I'm an incel. The reason men become incels where as women don't is because men feel entitled to sex. Also you may be 26 and single but you can still get laid if you wanted where as incels such as myself can't.
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  17064. ​ @Alexander21025 wtf
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  17065. ​ @julesdalli9716 sociopaths
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  17066. I'll make it.
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  17067. Evil
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  17068. Fallacy of relative privation
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  17069. I'm not mad at him..
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  17070. Hell, I hope he is having sex daily.
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  17071. My replies are deleted
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  17072. The point is the rich rely on government welfare to gain wealth but the rich then criticize the working class for using the government to do the same thing.
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  17073.  @crogers4912  millionaire/billionaire individuals/companies. Yes I know the difference between income/assets. Welfare the rich receive: -Strong intellectual property laws(copyrights. Trademarks. Patents) -Market concentrations: no practical upper limit on the number or size of acquisitions and mergers. - not a good enough upper limit on the market dominance a few firms can have in any particular industry. - technological innovation: see above. -also access to relatively cheap energy sources and pre-existing infrastructure(making distribution and resource extraction practical). - don't even get me started on the tax code, banking regulations, or no hard price regulations/caps on many pharmaceutical drugs(basically more money in the form of tax cuts, subsidies, and no financial regulatory over sight).
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  17074. I want to socialize almost more than I want to lose my virginity. I'm too poor to afford a prostitute, and too poor to afford a driver's license or car, so I don't go anywhere to socialize. In fact, I don't even have any money to buy my own clothes. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
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  17075.  @wakeyskate  exactly.
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  17076. MIT living wage calculator
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  17077. I love how This gun nut believes the government should regulate things only when it benefits his right-wing version of freedom. Conservatives are hypocrites. Greed is bad for poor people. Greed is good for rich people. The government providing checks for rich people is good, but providing checks for poor people is bad.
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  17078. ​ @juresichj thank you.
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  17079. Except the problem is that the government helping the poor is seen as a handout. But helping the rich is seen as an investment.
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  17080. Except Republicans want poverty
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  17081. Republicans don't want that
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  17082. That's messed up.
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  17083. correct. but what ben is implying is only "skilled" workers deserve a decent life.
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  17084. Hypocrites.
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  17085. 20 million? ONE year?
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  17086. That's disgusting.
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  17087. ​ @mosesoftheblock2311 he believes in just-world fallacy.
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  17088. Republicans assign value to people based on how hard they work. Since poor people don't work hard enough, they have no value.
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  17089. I cried reading that.
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  17090. I don't know whether to vote or not since USA still doesn't have universal health care.
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  17091. Yes... What's your point?
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  17092. Employers understand they just don't care.
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  17093. Exactly
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  17094. Yep.
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  17095.  Crickett  yep.
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  17096. ​ @Sagealeena Exactly
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  17097. I'm not an incel anymore. I'm a virgin.
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  17098.  @chriscarroll5799  conservatives oppose Pell grants too. You don't seem to understand that conservatives oppose policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. That is the real reason why they oppose tuition free college.
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  17099. Yep
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  17100. I always compare poverty to women's suffrage. We as a society have the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, that it is a right that they are supposed to have, so we ensured that they have that right. That's it. Our Society is structured around that simple fact. Wages are not like the weather: Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed that no worker deserved to be poor then no worker then.....no worker would be poor. That's it. We would raise everyone's wages to an acceptable level and deal with the repercussions whatever they might be. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal economic forces, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  17101. ​ @Seattle-2017 lol
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  17102. ​ @user-sb9ho5jz3e exactly
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  17103. ​ @user-sb9ho5jz3e yes
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  17104. Experience is not a skill. Only education and responsibility are skills that increase your salary. And minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. They certainly don't pay enough to attend college.
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  17105. I've been a cashier for 7 years. It gives you no "experience" to do anything. $10.50/hr can't pay for college.
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  17106. So greed is good for CEOs but bad for cashiers and janitors? The hypocrisy
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  17107. Why not $100,000? Corporations are unfathomably wealthy
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  17108.  @Hope-qy8dr  an associate's degree costs roughly $18,000. Although with $48 billion in scholarships, there's enough financing and opportunities for me to apply. Corporations require employees to work. Why ignore the desire of the employees who simply want a better life for themselves? It's like I'm asking for $8 million/year salary, but enough to live. Corporations do not exist in a vacuum. They exist to serve society's needs. If a corporation denies a person a living wage that can be deemed unacceptable by the government like denying women voting is.
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  17109.  @Hope-qy8dr  I lost financial aid due to poor grades. I'm on my own now for needing grants and scholarships. And I could apply...and get them...and finish school. I guess you're saying I can choose to have a better job and degree. That I feel entitled.
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  17110.  @Hope-qy8dr  basically i've been realizing that i'm entitled to nothing. Not a career, living wage, Associate's degree. I have to earn it. I believe I can still get those things even though I've made it more difficult for myself. To finish my associate's degree, I'll need to earn grants/scholarships. I was a screenwriter a while back, and won a screenwriting competition/was offered writing jobs. I could pursue that again on the side. I desire a license/car...i will either have to take on a career part-time for a while, or rely on a scholarship. The former seems more reliable.
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  17111.  @Hope-qy8dr  I'll stop being lazy and entitled. I won't be given anything I desire.
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  17112.  @Hope-qy8dr  I believe you aren't willing to pay the price(economically or morally) force eliminating low wage work. Which means on a fundamental level it doesn't bother you that millions of people work for nothing.
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  17113.  @Hope-qy8dr  the poor grades were my own fault. I could try harder in school. Actually, I am now. I'm taking three classes at two colleges at once, plus I'm a 2nd semester intern, plus I do math lab research(the internship and math research are both through my college). I'm getting academic credits and recognition. But that doesn't bother you I make crumbs? My internship pays $15/hr for 4 hours a week. That's $900 for the semester. Not per week, for. The. Entire. Semester. I'll be offered free hotel/carpool to do the statewide speech at the end of the semester..
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  17114.  @Hope-qy8dr  yes. That too. I've been offered jobs concerning my major (physics) as a science journalist.
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  17115.  @Hope-qy8dr  okay. I understand I've been entitled.
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  17116.  @Hope-qy8dr  do you believe women deserve to vote?
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  17117.  @Hope-qy8dr  because both giving women the right to vote and poverty are policy choices. They're both ultimately about what we as a society believes people deserve. On one hand, our society believes all women deserve voting. On the other hand, it does NOT believe all workers deserve a living wage.
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  17118.  @Hope-qy8dr  Sweden has stronger unions and a larger social safety net than the USA does. 2. you need to be alive to do any iob, regardless of skill level. So a wage high enough to live? That's seriously being debated now? Even kids need to eat. 3. Many entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. You're telling people "bring value to the table" when being a cashier or janitor does no such thing. The employer is asking the employee for the impossible. The employer can't expect a cashier to gain education or responsibility when the job does no such thing no matter how long someone is employed there. That's no different than expecting medical school to train someone to build a rocket.
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  17119.  @Hope-qy8dr  it is not a personal choice because no one chooses to be poor. It's a policy choice enacted by the government to keep wages so low. Where in the laws of physics does it say women deserve voting? Nowhere. Because it's not a physical law that determines it, it's a social law. We decide what our priorities are for ourselves, no law of nature decides that for us. Scarcity is a category error. I'm talking about values. On a fundamental level we do not believe in ending Poverty. Scarcity has nothing to do with it.
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  17120.  @Hope-qy8dr  inflation has far outpaced wage growth. Inflation has been happening with the minimum wage being exactly where it's been at for over 10 years. Nothing is priced for people making minimum wage! Not homes, cars, nothing.
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  17121.  @Hope-qy8dr  individuals can only achieve but so much. That's why the government is given power to act on our behalf.
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  17122.  @Hope-qy8dr  yes....that is what I am saying.
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  17123.  @Hope-qy8dr  I need to quit working as a cashier and complaining. Being entitled has left me in poverty and with no college degree. I want to escape poverty
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  17124.  @Hope-qy8dr  I could but I don't desire to make a retail a career. I had a viable career as a writer for a while, so I'll return to that.
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  17125.  @Hope-qy8dr  okay
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  17126.  @Hope-qy8dr  I took a screenwriting class, and then entered a screenwriting competition and won it, and then I was offered writing jobs / grants. But I got too scared and didn't go further than that. I guess what I'm saying is I'm scared to take on more responsibility.
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  17127.  @Hope-qy8dr  You're right, all God gives me is life and health. I'm not even guaranteed that I'll be alive tomorrow.
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  17128.  @Saberwolves84  adults over the age of 25...
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  17129. 5.2 TRILLION DOLLARS
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  17130.  @mangravy2000  everyone cannot do that
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  17131. Wow.
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  17132. Yep
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  17133. Yes
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  17134. I'm gonna lose my vcard
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  17135. Even 22 hour is not enough though.
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  17136. To force poor people to accept slave wages
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  17137. Wow
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  17138. But when the rich receive billions yearly they aren't making enough.
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  17139.  @yharim180  Correct.
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  17140. What you and Kyle aren't realizing is conservatives don't believe poor people deserve a living or thriving wage
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  17141. ​ @iquanyin1 because poor people can fight against corporations.
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  17142. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
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  17143. I've never kissed I've never dated I've never held hands I've never hugged a girl I have no experience with any woman at all. I feel hopeless .
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  17144.  @denacrescini1990  thank you. I will find clubs to join and events to attend.
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  17145.  @johnpoller8897  poverty can end.
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  17146. To force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  17147. Exactly
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  17148. It's a classic example of just world fallacy
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  17149.  @volpe1970  i love how people who make 200k yearly and millions yearly via stocks are saying 15/hr is more than enough for any person.
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  17150. Corporations want poverty to exist.
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  17151. I cry reading this.
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  17152. ​ @ashleighelizabeth5916 exactly
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  17153. There are already lines for food...
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  17154. That's the point: control
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  17155.  @bceyre8204  yes. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs or slave wages. Only their opposite would: the poor and unskilled. Corporations use welfare and debt to control poor people like myself to accept slave wages. I'm using in welfare in USA
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  17156. You're misunderstanding conservatives. 1st of all they oppose policies which reduce poverty and put poor people into the middle class, which is why they oppose free college. 2nd off they believe that you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  17157. Yep.
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  17158. correct.
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  17159. LOL.
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  17160. Ben isn't saying the quiet part out loud. He believes minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  17161. I'm still a virgin
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  17162. I'm a kissless virgin at 29
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  17163. Free community college and university doesn't exist in the US. Most jobs being created are minimum wage jobs. Job loyalty does not exist anymore so the idea of staying with a single company 20+ years/climbing the ladder is unreasonable. The minimum wage isn't high enough to afford cars, kids, or mortgages. Let alone all 3 at once.
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  17164. Yep
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  17165. Exactly It's why they hate billionaires.
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  17166.  @KevinQ1989  in their eyes it IS too much: for workers that don't deserve it. IN THEIR EYES DOCTORS DESERVE A LIVING WAGE CASHIERS DON'T.
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  17167. Because it isn't about logic, but just world fallacy. Many people think poor people don't deserve government assistance because they don't work hard enough, whereas rich people work hard enough to earn it.
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  17168. Won't work because many people believe poor people don't deserve healthcare
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  17169. Debt is an acceptable risk. Not everyone can work in trades. Not everyone can work at all.
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  17170. Metallic hydrogen? it's a chemical fuel, not nuclear fuel. Also fusion happens at millions of degrees, hydrogen or any element would be a plasma at this point, not metallic.
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  17171. Metallic hydrogen exists around 10-30 million earth atmospheres, fusion is 100 billion atmospheres(that's the lower end)
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  17172. ​ @Youtubedeletes not everyone can be a trade worker.
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  17173. Me
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  17174. Ok
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  17175. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  17176.  @nerag7459  correct. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty: poverty first function is to ensure society's dirty work gets done. If everyone had wealth or skills, nobody would work minimum wage jobs.
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  17177.  @nerag7459  also read the origin of work requirements: the family assistance plan under president Nixon.
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  17178.  @nerag7459  I can't read my messages now. DARN IT
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  17179. *billion
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  17180. My replies are deleted
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  17181. Exactly.
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  17182. What americans don't want to admit is that they profit off of poverty
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  17183.  @bigneon_glitter  proof? If so, that's crazy.
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  17184.  @tonywilson4713  do you believe all Americans deserve healthcare?
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  17185.  @tonywilson4713  no many Americans don't want universal healthcare.
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  17186. I'm a virgin at 29. My life is over.
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  17187. Because conservatives oppose policies that reduce poverty and create a middle class.
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  17188.  @lebowe6131  both lauren boebert and mitch McConnell were poor growing up.
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  17189.  @OmegasTurn  chic fil a makes enough profits to pay their cashiers $100,000/yr. Would you be happy for the cashiers if they made that much?
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  17190.  @theinvisiblewoman5709  yes. What rich people and corporations do is pay their executives and shareholders in the form of performance bonuses and dividends via profit sharing...allowing them to amass huge fortunes when the company does well. THEN turn around and pay workers based on skill....ensuring the working class gets paid barely survivable wages and unaffordable Healthcare.
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  17191.  @theinvisiblewoman5709  you misunderstood me. The CEO and other corporate executives pay themselves based on profits and then pay their lower level workers based on skill.
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  17192. It doesn't matter what skills people have, it is a choice to pay people more or less than someone else, we could choose to pay everyone the same, or not pay anyone at all
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  17193. Then equal pay for everyone
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  17194.  @NoobToobJamarMemes  much better choice. I hate how McDonald's workers are treated like dogs too.
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  17195. Oh okay.
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  17196. You're right.
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  17197. I know I'm the problem.
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  17198.  @BlackHearthguard  I'm not like that but I'm still a virgin.
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  17199. He's a multi millionaire.
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  17200. Exactly.
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  17201. Dangerous
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  17202. ​ @szilardfineascovasa6144 okay.
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  17203. @Snippets of Acappella Not possible.
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  17204. Exactly.
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  17205. Lolol
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  17206. Yes
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  17207. Exactly
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  17208. I spent more money on movie tickets than I made working as a cashier.
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  17209.  @zoomzoom3950  doesn't negate what I said.
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  17210. Beautiful
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  17211. Yep.
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  17212. What Kyle and Krystal fail to realize is that worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  17213. @valerielhw  if I won $38 million worth of scholarships how would you feel?
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  17214.  @valerielhw  thanks. Stay safe.
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  17215. Wow.
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  17216.  @SaintKines  my replies get deleted and I don't feel like retyping them.
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  17217.  @SaintKines  my replies are gone
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  17218. Wow
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  17219. Noone who makes Minimum wage works full-time because of benefits. If you work full-time, you're eligible for health insurance, pto, paid sick leave, etc. Etc. I was kept at 28 hours per week.
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  17220. That's hurtful.
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  17221. It was to instill the lie that all poor people can get into college with enough hard work.
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  17222. I've never seen a poor fox news host.
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  17223. Unemployment is an acceptable risk
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  17224. Many conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty wages and no benefits
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  17225. You are correct. But conservatives disagree with you because of just-world fallacy. They believe workers earn what they deserve, and that all criminals are bad. Thus, stopping crime is based on punitive justice, not rehabilitative.
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  17226. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office
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  17227. Ok
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  17228. Republicans hate welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  17229.  @colihon3552  Exactly.
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  17230. Wow
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  17231. ​ @onkelpappkov2666 yep
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  17232. ​ @justagirl-u2u wow
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  17233. BOOM.
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  17234. ​​ @Kwk16534 yep
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  17235. ​ @Kwk16534 exactly
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  17236.  @lizp4615  wow.
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  17237. The problem is republicans hate welfare for low income individuals: both ideologically and morally.
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  17238.  @daphnedixon36  exactly.
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  17239.  @daphnedixon36  a guaranteed minimum income is better
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  17240.  @daphnedixon36  I assume you want an end to poverty?
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  17241. @daphnedixon36  Yes, I want poverty to end!
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  17242. @daphnedixon36  I believe I know how to end poverty. And create a utopia- make everyone have the same ideology. Do you want to find out?
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  17243. @daphnedixon36  1. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable. 2. If we truly cared about ending poverty, we would accept whatever consequences and risks in fighting against their poverty. 3. We do this for women and voting, women changed the very structure of our ideology and economy, but women DESERVED this freedom, so we're willing to accept these consequences. 4. We do not like dealing with the consequences in fighting against poverty. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty. 5. Poverty is like women's suffrage, a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity. 6. Use this litmus test- the risks we refuse to accept. It reveals we are not willing to stop all problems. The reason there is a difference in our ideology is simple- we don't believe all sources of suffering are wrong. 7. This is not just a policy choice, but a moral choice as well. And we can choose to stop making it at any moment.
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  17244.  @daphnedixon36  part 2 coming up
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  17245.  @daphnedixon36  part 2 In reference to women- women were discriminated against. Deprived of voting, of a decent life, for a very long time in many other countries besides America. If we truly cared about ending poverty, we would be willing to accept whatever risks on fighting against their poverty. We do this for women - they entered the workforce, changed our economic and political structure and values, etc. But our society believes women deserve voting and deserve freedom, so we're willing to accept these risks. We do not accept the risks in fighting against poverty. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty. In short, our society's values have shifted because of women, not in spite of them. Women have brought about a change in our political values and economic policies, more than any woman alive in 1918 could have ever known or even dreamed of. Women have brought this change in every country on the planet across all other divisions- nationality, income, education, religion, etc. As a matter of principle, this means we can change our values. We can change how we treat each other because how women were treated before, how they're treated now, and how anyone is treated has always been a choice. There is no physical law that forces us to behave the way we do. There is no physical law that leaves some people so deeply unequal compared to others. We choose to be this unequal. We can choose to be more so or less so.
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  17246.  @daphnedixon36  I hope you see my comments. They keep getting deleted
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  17247. @daphnedixon36  thanks for hearing my rant. The downside is, I know a utopia won't be created- people will still have different ideologies.
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  17248. @daphnedixon36  you're right. LOL we aren't in Star Trek future.
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  17249. @daphnedixon36  I know I'm right, but what's messed up is Noone will change for the better.
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  17250.  @daphnedixon36  do you think I'm evil?
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  17251. @daphnedixon36  when I suggest minimum wage workers get paid a living wage many people admonish me saying "they don't deserve it."
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  17252.  @daphnedixon36  or if I said cashiers made $100,000/year they get upset over that.
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  17253.  @daphnedixon36  Okay.
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  17254. Correct.
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  17255. Correct.
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  17256. ​ @CinderV1 Yep. If I was awarded such a grant unconditionally and indefinitely I could pursue every degree I want!
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  17257. Thank you. How would you feel if I did win a. $420k scholarship
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  17258. Because conservatives oppose policies which reduce poverty.
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  17259. Poor people make up close to half the country but don't run for office. Maybe if more poor people ran for office, then we wouldn't have cruelty like this.
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  17260.  @trappedinamerica7740  what?
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  17261.  @trappedinamerica7740  no poor people are in Congress.
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  17262.  @anthonydelfino6171  ok.
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  17263. Problem with your thinking is implying politicians want poverty to end. They do not. Because poverty forces people to accept slave wages .
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  17264. I'm fine with that.
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  17265.  @honkhonk8009  Correct. Union busting and service sector jobs transformed America into a low wage nation.
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  17266.  @Zombie1Boy  and unions.
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  17267.  @Liitebulb  haha
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  17268. It's called just-world fallacy. It drives Republican ideology.
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  17269. ​ @tioswift3676 i believe hatred is taught.
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  17270. That's a price you must be willing to pay
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  17271. ​ @Maya_Pinion yep.
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  17272. Yep. I was a cashier for 7 years now. Now I'm unemployed and I've decided being a cashier is a dead-end job. I'm never working in retail or food service again. All I have now to cling on to is trying to finish getting my associates degree. And improving my health.
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  17273. Then the service sector deserves to die.
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  17274.  @momof4121  it has been recalculated based on what you said. With a proper definition of poverty 140 million people would be poor, not 47 million.
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  17275.  @davidstrong7854  what is?
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  17276.  @momof4121  yep
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  17277. Both parties are evil
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  17278. Workfare stems from the family assistance plan that failed under Nixon.
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  17279. Yes.
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  17280. Corporations
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  17281.  @johnward43  no?
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  17282. They don't want to accept responsibility.
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  17283. I've accepted responsibility. But I'm a virgin still
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  17284. My life hasn't worked out yet
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  17285. ​@Mel-bt4hqyep
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  17286. That's correct.
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  17287. ​ @Mr.Despair.  yep.
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  17288. Yes
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  17289. ​ @-Zevin- yep.
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  17290. ​ @-Zevin- or force them into poverty.
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  17291. Because he puts the rich on a different pedestal.
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  17292. Ok
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  17293. It's called Just-world fallacy.
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  17294. Why?
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  17295. "Unskilled?"
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  17296. That's messed up.
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  17297. That has already been solved, varying the minimum wage based on cost of living. I find it upsetting you put the tears of struggling business owners above the tears of people not making enough to live from working. If employers aren't able to pay a living wage then they deserve to be on the streets.
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  17298. Republicans believe poor women don't deserve to have children
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  17299. Yep.
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  17300. That made me cry.
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  17301. Wow.
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  17302. I'm working on getting a Toyota Corolla. If I was rich, the two cars I would want are a 2024 Nissan Rogue and 2023 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack.
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  17303. Exactly
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  17304.  Shrexy Beast  lol that is no reason to allow poverty....
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  17305.  @gustavocvieira8584  at poverty...yes...
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  17306. I'm not stupid. Poor people like myself can't run for office
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  17307. Many people don't want universal healthcare because they don't want poor people to have welfare
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  17308. Yep​ @vortex_1336 
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  17309.  @anaibarangan4908  yes
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  17310.  @Kornelius707  yep
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  17311. Yep​ @shawnhale2631 
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  17312. ​ @ps.2 Lol.
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  17313. ​ @randeknight yep.
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  17314. Correct.
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  17315. Okay​ @TheOmicore 
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  17316. ​ @TheOmicore I'm a virgin
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  17317. That's the neat thing, they don't! welfare makes up the difference.
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  17318. ​ @deathtouchltd  exactly.
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  17319. I can't afford a hooker, plus it's illegal in my state anyway.
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  17320.  @LordVel  um.....that is messed up.
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  17321. ​@FinFinra you can't buy intimacy. I want a woman to like me.
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  17322.  @joshitheyoshi2533  exactly. Prostitution doesn't solve any inceldom.
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  17323. Except conservatives believe all poor adults choose to be poor. That poverty is a moral failing. It's also easy to bully people who can't fight back. In this sense, I mean there are no poor people in Congress. 😮
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  17324. The problem is politicians want poor people to be forced into minimum wage jobs.
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  17325. Forgive them too.
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  17326. These people are judge dredd.
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  17327. $45 million a year? I could buy a house in one WEEK. In one month I'd be set for life.
    1
  17328. What's a no-strike clause?
    1
  17329. Yep
    1
  17330. Too bad that isn't the case now. There are adults working minimum wage jobs.
    1
  17331. Exactly.
    1
  17332. Same​ @GenerationX1984 
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  17333. Yep
    1
  17334.  @kevinoffuttisagirl259  it's about priorities
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  17335.  @graham1034  the wages: I meant either raise the minimum wage(idk how high a wage you need to afford a 30 year mortgage or 10 year mortgage or whatever) or have a maximum wage.
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  17336.  @graham1034  can the government limit home prices to be a multiplier of the median income? Say median home price can't be no more than 4x median income? That won't work either?
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  17337.  @graham1034  they EACH have to make $30/hr?? Mate that means a single person would have to make $60/hr....
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  17338.  @graham1034  make the median home price no more than 4x median income. In the 70s that was the case in USA. In the 50s the ratio was even smaller. You could buy a 12k house on an 8k salary. Your salary was 60% cost of your house.
    1
  17339. Yes
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  17340. Exactly.
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  17341. Yep.
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  17342. Circular logic at its finest.
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  17343. Able bodied is a moral term to imply poor people don't deserve government assistance. It's based on just world Fallacy: that poor people don't work hard enough to escape poverty, and thus don't deserve government benefits.
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  17344. What infinite benefits? What laziness? Blame the poor rather than greedy companies?
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  17345. Wow
    1
  17346. Ok
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  17347. ​ @christopherrhorer5192 there is no free market when corporations hold all of the power.
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  17348. lol
    1
  17349. ​ @BenjaminWalburn exactly.
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  17350. Exactly lol. These pundits act like half the country isn't poor or low income.
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  17351.  @Bill-ou7zp  exactly.
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  17352.  @matthewfusaro2590  That is a Catch 22
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  17353.  @matthewfusaro2590  why does USA hate the poor so much?
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  17354.  @blueglass1163  college should be tuition free at the point of service. And nobody except millionaires and billionaires can pay for college out of pocket. And no job deserves to pay dirt low wages.
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  17355.  @blueglass1163  um. that is a good thing that more have degrees then. More education, more power. And yes, the military preys on the poor, an even stronger argument for free college. And just because more people get a degree, doesn't mean it will all be in the same field. And most higher paying jobs require a college degree.
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  17356.  @blueglass1163  stop supporting poverty. Our defense budget is too large.
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  17357.  @blueglass1163  okay. Keep trolling. Have fun.
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  17358. I'm pathetic?
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  17359. Yep
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  17360. BTW tinder hasn't worked for me after 5 years.
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  17361. UBI would mitigate the risk of working and being in poverty
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  17362. So I use Medicaid to get the medications
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  17363. Exactly.
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  17364. It all started with Reagan,. He fed it to this conservative idea that all poor people are lazy.
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  17365. Just-world fallacy at its finest
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  17366. He's the one who pushed for welfare to be tied to work. Clinton did too.
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  17367. On some ideological level, our republican senators have no interest in ending poverty.
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  17368. The point of society is to ensure there are less barriers moving forward, not more.
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  17369. Wow​ @DebiGoldben 
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  17370. ​ @MatthewMoody-iw2se evil
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  17371.  @pleaseenteraname1103  But it can be a living wage now. What type of dumb argument is that? According to that logic women don't deserve to vote.
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  17372.  @pleaseenteraname1103  You said the minimum wage isn't meant to be a living wage and that justifies it never being a living wage. That there's thus no reason to change it now. That's like telling women before 1918 that since women weren't given the right to vote( And our founding fathers had no intention of giving women the right to vote and in fact never did) then there's no reason to give women voting now.
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  17373.  @pleaseenteraname1103  there aren't entry level for most people, not anymore. Not when 44% of jobs pay barely above it.
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  17374.  @pleaseenteraname1103  You are aware that there are far less managers than "entry-level" positions, right? Yes you make more money moving up the career ladder but less and less jobs become available(over all) as you do so. Unless corporations are willing to create tens of millions of manager or corporate executive positions by converting all entry-level jobs into C-level ones then not everyone can be promoted at once. Imagine me telling every city cop to "move up" and become police chief. Or even police captain. All those cops cannot all be promoted to police chief, or even promoted at all. And just like corporations, the higher rank the less of those positions exist.
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  17375.  @pleaseenteraname1103  I know. I'm saying if most jobs are supposed "entry-level" then naturally most people will be stuck in those positions their whole lives since they can't all move up.
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  17376.  @pleaseenteraname1103  how can everyone have a fair shot if the lowest wage possible is a literal starvation wage? In fact, it costs more in gas to travel to/from a minimum wage job than you would make from working said job. There's literally no point in working then.
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  17377. Down to minimum wage.
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  17378. ​ @FranksHairSalon wow
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  17379. Yep
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  17380. Why?
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  17381. Correct.
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  17382. ​@Hotspur FC 1882 I spent $32 on tickets, then $45 on food.
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  17383. Rich people need to feel like being rich is due to effort and not luck so people like hannity lie and say poverty is from laziness.
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  17384. I'm incel
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  17385. Thank you.
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  17386. Because it's about priorities
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  17387. Exactly. Millionaires and billionaires can afford any tuition at any University in the world, tuition going up doesn't affect them.
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  17388. Because it's a red herring. Corporations support illegal immigration because they want cheap, exploitable labor.
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  17389. Correct.
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  17390. Do you know about hedge funds? These people literally make billions of dollars a year from just taking a certain percentage of profits off of essentially doing nothing.
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  17391. The lower class is getting screwed too.
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  17392.  @TheLace  Yep.
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  17393. The rules aren't the same for everyone.
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  17394.  @UniversalMaster0  that is all survivorship bias lol. You're trolling.
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  17395.  @UniversalMaster0  meritocracy isn't real because people are not equal in birth nor upbringing. There are systemic factors to success
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  17396. ​@bluewaters3100 that's messed up
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  17397. @mactastic144  freedom. Yes. Which politicians don't want poor people to have.
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  17398. I don't vote.
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  17399. I agree.
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  17400.  @ryanhubbard1885  because states covered most of the cost of college. Now, without federal loans that cost is mostly on the students.
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  17401.  @ryanhubbard1885  no. I mean states in the 50s-80s paid a higher portion of college tuition than now.
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  17402.  @ryanhubbard1885  yep. I wonder if college will ever be tuition free....in USA
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  17403.  @ryanhubbard1885  sounds like just-world fallacy to me.
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  17404. Inflation is an acceptable risk.
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  17405.  @boi9842  doesn't change what I said.
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  17406. It's called hating the poor.
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  17407. No it's just that Grassley and the other Fox News idiots don't believe everyone deserves to be middle class.
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  17408. Yes
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  17409. Many poor people think they'll be rich one day.
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  17410. It's ok to keep wages low because corporations treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  17411. The problem is the real reason people hate a living wage is because they believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money
    1
  17412. Exactly.
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  17413. Look up the ohio pizza shop owner who paid his workers $78/hr when he shared profits.
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  17414. ​ @jimbob9407 shut up
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  17415. Wow😊
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  17416. Poor women should be banned from having kids
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  17417. That's messed up twice as much
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  17418. Be quiet
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  17419. ​ @harryballsak1123 yep
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  17420.  @BoogUwU  okay.
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  17421. It's to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  17422. Lol
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  17423. ​@stephenkizlik8465 I chose to be incel. I'm not one anymore. I am still a virgin. I'm working on that
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  17424. I'm virgin
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  17425.  @mohamedsaid9416  Because conservatives oppose policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. Conservatives also believe the rich provide all the value to society and thus deserve all the money and decision making power.
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  17426.  @mohamedsaid9416  because the core root of politics is that liberals and conservatives are fundamentally ideologically different. Conservatives believe in individualism. Particularly that individual effort alone can overcome any obstacles. Either luck doesn't exist or isn't a contributing factor. Thus, if you're born poor it isn't your fault but if you die poor it is. Helping the poor become middle class or rich is like rewarding failure and that anathema to them.
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  17427. I can't lose my virginity to a doll.
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  17428. how...
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  17429. Wow
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  17430. So she dropped out?
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  17431. @theterminaldave  my city has tv media companies too. I'll call both.
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  17432. Correct
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  17433.  @noneofyourbusiness150  That's because conservatives believe that you reward the rich with more money to get them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  17434. Because the point is to perpetuate poverty. People without debt are less willing to work for slave wages vs people straddled with debt
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  17435. Because republicans don't want to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. If poor people made enough money to afford healthcare and food without working, they won't work minimum wage jobs.
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  17436. Yep.
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  17437. Conservatives believe minimum wage workers don't deserve to make more money.
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  17438. In their eyes it's rewarding failure and laziness to losers who don't want to work hard.
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  17439. Republicans love poverty
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  17440. ​ @oooh19  because elliot wanted power and control. A hooker offers neither.
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  17441. You're essentially justifying poverty by saying just "get over it."
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  17442. Correct.
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  17443. Thank you.
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  17444. The work requirement is a red herring. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. So, the government restricts welfare to perpetuate poverty and keep workers under the control of corporations.
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  17445. Too much to ask for from greedpublicans
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  17446. AS AN INCEL I AM ECSTATIC FOR HIM. I HOPE HE GETS LAID MANY MORE TIMES.
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  17447.  @Mongoose-ct6us  I said it wasn't a true UBI. Forget that detail. What I'm saying is if the government grant exceeds the salary, then people will use the grant or demand a higher salary. Welfare ALREADY pays more than minimum wage work, so politicans hate welfare for this exact reason. So they force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs anyway with work requirements. Basically what I'm saying is UBI would equalize power between employer and employee, that is ideologically and economically opposed(for poor people).
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  17448.  @l3gartha987  the government enables poverty to ensure society's dirty work gets done
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  17449.  @Mongoose-ct6us  epic
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  17450.  @Mongoose-ct6us  but do you agree with my main point?
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  17451.  @michellereed3272  exactly. Even with a living wage, everyone cannot work.
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  17452. Two women wanted to date me, one of them wanted to have sex with me. However, I was too scared with one woman and too lazy with the other. I'm a recluse.
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  17453. My life is worthless
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  17454. Because they believe poor people don't deserve children
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  17455. They're against poor people having children and for higher corporate profits.
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  17456. Conservatives opposed a living wage minimum wage because they believe minimum wage workers skill sets aren't deserving of higher pay
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  17457. There aren't enough scholarships and grants to help everyone in college. Even if there were, most require you to get good grades and attend school full-time.
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  17458. You're an anti minimum wage troll.​ @FletchforFreedom 
    1
  17459. Won't work because it pays more than minimum wage
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  17460. This empowers poor people
    1
  17461. Millions yearly.
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  17462. Why do means testing? Why do any testing and not simply cancel all of it?
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  17463.  @andrewsmith3257  how does San Francisco not have 80% homelessness?
    1
  17464.  @andrewsmith3257  that's messed up our government allows that....
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  17465. But poor people will still be blamed for wanting a living wage.
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  17466. Describes Congress.
    1
  17467. There's no way to quantify merit. So yes, Kyle is correct.
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  17468. Republicans don't believe these " unskilled" workers deserve 15/hr but also oppose policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class.
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  17469.  @harryballsak1123  that's depressing.
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  17470.  @harryballsak1123  I'm 27 so I know. Jobs pay $11-$18 hr in my city. Median home prices are 200k-500k now. I could make 30/hr and still be poor.
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  17471. Politicians want poverty.
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  17472. Wow
    1
  17473.  @webman1956  yep.
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  17474. None of that replaces sex with a person.
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  17475. ​ @spaceballs44  I'm a virgin at 28. I want to use a hooker to lose my virginity
    1
  17476. ​ @spaceballs44  I've used tinder for 5 years, still no success.
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  17477. ​ Soldat Intelectual  he was, yes.
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  17478. Yep.
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  17479.  @themightykabool  yes. I think politicians don't want poverty to end because corporations couldn't control workers anymore.
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  17480. Correct.
    1
  17481. It's depressing.
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  17482. They're too rich.
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  17483. I'm a kissless virgin at 30
    1
  17484. ​@Jeffrey Hutchins it is for millions of people.
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  17485. ​@Bob Jacobson you can't pay for college working minimum wage, there aren't enough trade jobs for everyone.
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  17486. ​ @rjmurphyo0  this. There are too many minimum wage jobs.
    1
  17487. ​ @TheNinthGeneration1 yep
    1
  17488. ​ @mikehughes8023 ok
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  17489. ​ @mikehughes8023 k
    1
  17490. ​ @joaniemcgillick1786 exactly. With a guaranteed minimum income.
    1
  17491. ​ @kitsunekage12  exactly
    1
  17492. ​ @fr7455 yep
    1
  17493. Depressing.
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  17494. That's heartbreaking to read
    1
  17495. Because unlike houses laffer doesn't want unskilled workers being worth much.
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  17496.  @michaeld4861  i hate these dirt bags.
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  17497.  c B  i don't have insurance because my state denied Medicaid expansion.
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  17498.  @michaeld4861  remember his $500k a year bonus from stocks. He makes more money in one year than most Americans make in a decade.
    1
  17499.  @gayyoung4383  praise up three major problems with the economy. First, Healthcare should not be tied to employment. Second, people should just be able to get Healthcare if they need it. Third, most jobs are low-wage jobs. Up until about the early 80s most jobs were actually middle class. So there was a decent chance that you could graduate high school get a job without any college degree and be able to afford a house and a family.
    1
  17500. Yep.
    1
  17501. ​ @Duckducgoose1 exactly
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  17502. You can't eliminate any of those things
    1
  17503.  @limitisillusion7  yep
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  17504. Ok
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  17505. The point is to not have robust welfare support programs.
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  17506. Thank you
    1
  17507. It's messed up.
    1
  17508. In my state of NC, I can't get food stamps because A. I'm enrolled in higher education B. Being an intern isn't considered "a real job" unless you work 30 hours a week - most internships only work you 20.
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  17509. It's only communist when the government helps poor people. How about you say what's really on your mind: that you believe poor people don't deserve help.
    1
  17510. I can't afford one
    1
  17511. You can't buy intimacy either
    1
  17512. Yep.
    1
  17513. It is for poor people they look down on
    1
  17514. Wow.
    1
  17515. Conservatives have an axiom: rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor. anything which helps the poor is, by definition, unfair.
    1
  17516.  @grumpynold  that includes Walmart
    1
  17517.  @Daedalus_Dragon  that's messed up.
    1
  17518.  @Daedalus_Dragon  I know. I find it messed up republicans love loan forgiveness for rich/corporations but not the poor/middle class
    1
  17519. Oh ok.
    1
  17520. Because what they're saying is they'd rather have cheap prices than livable wages for workers
    1
  17521. She ignores the poor, so I won't vote for her.
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  17522. We can't
    1
  17523. how do incels lose their virginity, then?
    1
  17524. Exactly.
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  17525. The real problem is corporations wanting cheap labor, not the poor or illegal immigrants.
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  17526. I made $8.50/hr working at McDonald's as a cashier. Screw this POS country for loving poverty.
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  17527. My replies are gone. I made $8.50 an HOUR working as a cashier. Screw capitalism and USA.
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  17528.  @jimmyjames6487  stop trolling
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  17529.  @MK_ULTRA420 OP was comparing 20 million salary to the wage of fast food workers.
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  17530.  @MK_ULTRA420  that's dumb logic. Being smart doesn't mean you are rich. And everyone at a company cannot be CEO. You need lower level positions.
    1
  17531.  @MK_ULTRA420  ok
    1
  17532.  @sassycelina2447  Republicans don't want to take care of poor kids
    1
  17533. They don't say that part out loud.
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  17534. ​ @erikjohnson9075 able-bodied is a moral term to imply poor people don't deserve help.
    1
  17535.  @algorhythmic3904  okay.
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  17536.  @algorhythmic3904  my replies are always deleted but I said okay. I understand
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  17537. Yep
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  17538. Yep.
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  17539. They aren't dumb, what they basically believe is the poor should die.
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  17540. It's cold just world fallacy. These conservatives believe that anyone anywhere can become anything they want through effort alone. Either luck doesn't exist or isn't a contributing factor. If you're born poor it isn't your fault but if you die for it is. Helping the poor become middle class or rich is rewarding failure in their eyes, and that is anathema to them.
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  17541. And extending this to the minimum wage, conservatives believe that people make what they deserve. And paying minimum wage workers more money for doing such an easy job is paying the more money than they are entitled to.
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  17542. What conservatives are saying is they believe they have a right to decide how much money poor people deserve to make and they deserve to make nothing.
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  17543. It's a red herring He wants to mask the fact that welfare ensures poor people aren't desperate to work for slave wages.
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  17544. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept
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  17545. So this is a moral issue to you. You think poverty is acceptable.
    1
  17546. He can literally forgive all student loans on his own? He's heartless then.
    1
  17547. They'd be crying.
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  17548.  @vg7985  the real reason fox news hates welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government assistance
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  17549. @SgtJoeSmith  I'm not being a plumber or power plant operator while I'm attending community College, then hopefully 4 year university.
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  17550. It's called survivorship bias that the rich subscribe to.
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  17551. Doing that should be treated as a federal crime. Holding employees hostage like that.
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  17552. With great power, comes great responsibility.
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  17553. ​ @GrandmaCathy ok.
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  17554. ​ @jj947 yep lol
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  17555. My mom wouldn't be dead if NC had expanded Medicaid. So screw this country.
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  17556. probably worse than here. I'm lucky to be here. My life may be shitty but there is a world of opportunity waiting for me. @longshot291981 
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  17557. i stay here but i also do not vote @longshot291981 
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  17558.  @longshot291981  if my comment got deleted I was saying I'm lucky I'm here despite my hardships.
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  17559.  @longshot291981  should women have left America since they didn't have a constitutional right to vote? Should black people have left America since slavery was once legal? Come on, man. Just because other places have it worse, is no excuse for why this place can't be better. That's like being proud of a police department stopping 50% of crime because other departments stop only 30%.
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  17560. i agree
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  17561. Exactly
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  17562. ​ @jimbob9407 because it IS a career?
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  17563.  @harryballsak1123  yes. Complete idiots
    1
  17564.  @harryballsak1123  we are
    1
  17565. I will work to lose my virginity
    1
  17566. To be a part of a community.
    1
  17567. Exactly, but that gives workers power that corporate leaders don't want them to have. The truth of our political values lies and the risks we refuse to take, and it is worker solidarity, not continued poverty, that our government treats as intolerable.
    1
  17568. You can't pay someone to be attracted to you.
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  17569. Because politicians have an axiom: rich people deserve to be rich and poor people deserve to be poor.
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  17570. Not my fault they pay poverty wages.
    1
  17571. these workers are already productive?
    1
  17572. That's messed up
    1
  17573.  @andrewgawlik4961  yes.
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  17574. Follow-up: medicaid is made to be inefficient on purpose by legislators because poor people will refuse wage slavery if welfare programs are robust.
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  17575.  @andrewgawlik4961  that's messed up
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  17576.  @andrewgawlik4961  my replies are gone
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  17577. Holy shit.
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  17578.  @lynmcgrow9246  I don't vote.
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  17579. Lol.
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  17580. I don't vote in NC.
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  17581. They'd kill themselves.
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  17582. Yep.
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  17583. I don't understand why you're against candy and chocolate?
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  17584.  @Oakshang  i see. That seems like more restrictions...
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  17585.  @Oakshang  I think poor people are smart enough to not buy junk food.
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  17586.  @nickthompson1812  okay.
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  17587.  @nickthompson1812  why restrict any food items at all though? The point is to give them freedom to eat right?
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  17588.  @Oakshang  I don't know what you mean by it's given to people who don't need it. Low wages is an epidemic in this country. Food stamps, Medicaid, many other welfare programs. They exist to supplement low wage work, the core problem is greedy corporations refusing to pay more for American labor. Even more damning as to how low wages are people make more money working part-time collecting welfare than they would make working full-time and not collecting welfare. In other words you lose more money in benefits than what you can earn from working. I'm not on food stamps myself even though I can't afford food on my own because the benefits I would get are just not enough.
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  17589.  @Oakshang  I'm saying that the restrictions are too high. In fact, there shouldn't be any restrictions. Give poor people enough money for them to not be poor. Let them do with the money that they wish.
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  17590.  @Oakshang  Of course it is it but you're acting like that's the rule, not exception. And I have a feeling you're leaving out what I said: that they make more money working part-time getting food stamps than they would working full-time and not getting it. If I made $40 an hour I would never consider being on food stamps like I once was. But I don't make $40/hr. I make $10.50.
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  17591.  @Oakshang  Of course there are people taking advantage of it but it's not like you can rat them out. And I'm fine with people taking advantage of it.... I don't think it should be possible for anyone who works to be poor. Period. End of discussion. So the bigger problem is again, corporations not paying people enough. This is an extreme example but a doctor will never qualify for food stamps. I don't care what state they live in, I don't care if they're single or married, I don't care if they have one two or even five kids. And even if they did qualify they wouldn't waste their time getting it anyway. So how about make it impossible for anyone to be categorized as poor.
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  17592.  @Oakshang  Yes you can end poverty because poverty is a policy choice. I'm not upset people take advantage of it. I'm 28. I sure do have to find a better job.
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  17593. Rich people love poverty and illegal immigration because they want exploited workers.
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  17594. MY REPLIES ARE GONE
    1
  17595. Yep.
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  17596. I lost medicaid turning 26 2 years ago. It was recently expanded
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  17597. It's a mentality. I'm a kissless virgin at 28.
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  17598. ​ @lazerpants9026 yep
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  17599.  @michellem4287  exactly
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  17600.  @michellem4287  I find it disgusting rich people can receive trillions of dollars of tax cuts and people don't complain. But we complain about poor people receiving any help
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  17601. The government views anyone who needs to be supported by taxation as a burden.
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  17602. Endlessly.
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  17603. Google this for proof: an Ohio Pizza shop owner paid his staff the day's profits. The result? $78/hr per employee.
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  17604. Exactly. These politicians are so out of touch.
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  17605. ​ @timn5008 yep
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  17606. Yep.
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  17607. That's messed up.
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  17608. poverty keeps workers in line.
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  17609. Exactly.
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  17610.  @cindygr8ce  my replies are gone
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  17611.  @cindygr8ce  YouTube shadow bans my replies frequently. But I see my replies now.
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  17612. Thank you
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  17613. ​ @aussiewithinternet9872 I'm not gay? I'm referring to straight men. Men like myself can't have sex with women whenever I want.
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  17614. By this you mean why would poor people work when ubi pays more than minimum wage work?
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  17615. Poverty is a policy choice
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  17616. I'm 29 and live with my dad while attending school. Rent DOWN THE STREET THAT'S THE CHEAPEST IS $2,000/month one bedroom I must make 3x this to qualify.
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  17617.  @fungeography4556  okay
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  17618.  @fungeography4556  state policy.
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  17619. ​ @fungeography4556 it is the whole state, yes.
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  17620.  @marcellrosamonda7785  yep! Thanks for sharing your story!
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  17621. Stock market speculation is literally gambling.
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  17622. ​ @kimberlychodur3508  that made me cry.
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  17623. ​@Robert Ranes that pissed me off.
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  17624.  @josealbarran7202  if everyone is a business owner, who is left to do the remaining work?
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  17625. ​ @josealbarran7202 exactly
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  17626. It helps the poor. That's why Fox News anchors are crying
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  17627. ​@shades25x do you want open borders?
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  17628. that is messed up that businesses do that.
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  17629. wow.
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  17630. Jesus Christ
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  17631. I just want to lose my vcard. Andrew Tate gets endless women to sleep with him
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  17632. Because he was supporting survivorship bias.
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  17633.  @juniorgod321  not how I see it.
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  17634.  @newbootgoofin24  I don't vote at all.
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  17635.  @MH-bw9zt  sounds good too.
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  17636. @tjstarr2960  yep. The stock market is a reflection of the well-being of the rich. I argue it doesn't benefit the middle class either- Rich people and corporations take 75% of profits for themselves and offer the remaining workers almost no real value besides barely substance wages and crappy benefits, and retirement packages that can't be accessed without huge penalties.
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  17637.  @tyleronearth  congress yes.
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  17638.  @nk1974  that's not an economic issue per se but I agree.
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  17639.  @jasonpdsi  exactly.
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  17640.  @jasonpdsi  I've been applying for scholarships because community college costs money, even with financial aid AND pell grants. If only my government cared about the poor as much the rich...
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  17641. @tjstarr2960  great to hear! It makes me hopeful to know not everyone in USA is heartless/believes minimum wage workers are worthless. I want EVERYONE to make enough to thrive, not just people invested in stocks and real estate.
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  17642. @tjstarr2960  I realized politicians don't want to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. And because it would upend the American economy. If poor people received a guaranteed minimum income or robust welfare, including enough pell grants to afford the entire cost of college, Then, Nobody would work minimum wage. Nobody would accept below cost of living wages and no affordable health insurance.
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  17643. ​ @Lily_of_the_Alley Exactly
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  17644. ​ @Lily_of_the_Alley When the government helps rich people, it's capitalism.
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  17645. ​ @Lily_of_the_Alley But when the government helps poor people it's socialism or communism
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  17646.  @jizzyjake6783  sounds good 👍
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  17647.  @yajy4501  okay.
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  17648.  @yajy4501  yes!!
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  17649. It isn't the money. It's deeper than that. It's ideology. Politicians do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape. They do not believe all sources of suffering are wrong. Money has nothing to do with it.
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  17650. Just-world fallacy.
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  17651. ​@leobigelow7021 even if everyone wanted to, there are not enough high paying jobs for everyone. This is what the boot strappers don't understand.
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  17652. @karlhungus545  yes.
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  17653. @karlhungus545  I make $10.50/hr as a cashier, $900/semester as intern. I don't qualify for welfare, and I lost financial aid for community college. I'm in poverty now. With no way up or out. I'm mad.
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  17654.  @karlhungus545  I'm in the USA.
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  17655.  @karlhungus545  yes. I don't vote.
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  17656.  @karlhungus545  I know. It's terrible.
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  17657. Usa is the wealthiest country on Earth.
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  17658.  @philjohnson3490  I agree with you. But my separate point is USA could end poverty wages.
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  17659.  @philjohnson3490  oh ok.
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  17660. Profit sharing.
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  17661. When poor people receive government money, it's a handout, but when rich people receive it, it's an investment.
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  17662. Because shapiro believes minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
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  17663. You are correct.
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  17664. My standards for women are 0, but I never go out or socialize with women.
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  17665. ​ @j.d.s.1837 exactly
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  17666. Not real affection
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  17667. That's disgusting.
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  17668. Unfortunately I disagree with the "full-time" argument. Most fast food joints and supermarkets in my state of NC keep workers part-time so as to avoid providing benefits. When I worked at Carlie C's, I made $10.50/hr, and worked only 28 hours a week. Because if I worked 32, let alone 40, I'd be offered everything from health insurance to tuition reimbursement.
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  17669.  @esquared452  epic
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  17670.  @OccidentalAryan  all right.
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  17671. It is
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  17672. Correct. I want the constitution to be amended and entitle people to a living wage
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  17673. Yes.
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  17674. I cried reading that
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  17675. There are racist and sexist men that women willingly sleep with( knowing the man is racist and sexist beforehand).
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  17676. Shit.
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  17677. Exactly.
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  17678. Yes
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  17679. I'm forced onto Medicaid
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  17680. They do that already when accepting Medicaid.
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  17681. 60% of Americans make, as a household, $75,000/yr or less.
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  17682. That's correct. But it's more profitable to have people trapped in debt and poverty than to have neither and instead a strong middle class.
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  17683. It doesn't matter what something is meant to be it matters what it is.
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  17684. Because nobody worships the poor.
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  17685. Fallacy of relative privation
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  17686. ​ @undertow2142 I need to save up money for a car so I can function as an adult
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  17687. He probably believes in just-world fallacy
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  17688. The poverty line is low because if it was raised to what poverty SHOULD be then tens of millions more people would be counted as poor. Basically everyone besides millionaires and billionaires.
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  17689. Republicans believe poverty and motherhood are incompatible-that's why they oppose abortion and welfare for children at once.
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  17690. Correct. Their mindset is fueled by just world fallacy.
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  17691. Exactly
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  17692. no, because corporations want cheap labor and poverty.
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  17693. @Cassandra Tafoya correct.
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  17694. So do i.
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  17695.  @kalebaldwin5398  yes
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  17696.  @kalebaldwin5398  what we're scared of the most, THAT is what politics is about!!
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  17697.  @kalebaldwin5398  my replies are gone
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  17698. ​ @Hope-qy8dr  or McDonald's pay for their college. Their $2500 tuition reimbursement is pathetic.
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  17699. Yep.
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  17700. I'm living that now. I'm a community college intern as a "temp." I get no healthcare or PTO and make $60/week. The only skills that give you more money are education and responsibility. "Experience" gives you NOTHING.
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  17701. I know I'm not supposed to support a family off of an internship but "entry-level" jobs are dead-end.
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  17702.  @RealJackHQ  politicians don't want to do that because corporations own them and poor people don't.
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  17703.  @brandonneumann5294  Republicans agree too because it's a fact
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  17704. This is how higher education became another avenue to make money for people who do not need money. There is another goal. It is not money. It is the disadvantage. It is the wall. It is the lack of access. That is the goal. When the rich say they want money that is a distraction for the poor that’s an easy lie for the poor to believe. Because the poor wants money. the goal is a halt to progress. The goal is a halt to advancement of people they feel does not deserve advancement.
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  17705. ​ @c123-i6n exactly
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  17706. They want poor people to be poor
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  17707. I'll keep it short and sweet: I'm 29, a virgin, and don't want to be a virgin.
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  17708.  @blooflazh7  you're right. Truthfully I almost never go out/socialize, and even when I do, I don't talk to women. My standards are also way too high. I'm expecting supermodel looking women like Andrew Tate gets.
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  17709.  @blooflazh7  epic. Will do.
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  17710. @macdonald2k thanks
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  17711. Fox news is still standing.
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  17712. I call it being an "other wallet warrior," getting mad at someone else getting something for free that you had to work for.
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  17713. Thank you
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  17714. Sounds like just-world fallacy to me. Smh.
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  17715. Even if he did, he couldn't make $45 million.
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  17716. Correct.
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  17717. Why does he do that?
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  17718. Republicans believe Poor people don't deserve to have kids.
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  17719. Hahaha.
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  17720.  @user-gz4ve8mw9l  thank you
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  17721.  @TimEssDub  yes. Not viable for me to move to Canada.
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  17722.  @BradWhite25  thanks
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  17723.  @BradWhite25  my replies are gone.
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  17724. Yep
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  17725. You subscribe to just-world fallacy. If everyone had the money or skills to make more, they would. Noone who has a medical degree is becoming a cashier. Even if every minimum wage worker aspired to career advancement it won't work out: there are simply not enough managerial positions for everyone to move up to.
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  17726. They hate poor people having children.
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  17727. If you pay taxes cradle to grave, the government is supposed to take care of you cradle to grave.
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  17728. That's messed up.
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  17729. It's messed up
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  17730. Why a maximum wage?
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  17731. Ok
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  17732. Inflation has nothing to do with minimum wage. And quantitative easing destroys your point of higher wages anyway.
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  17733. ​ @blairdanies8387 yep
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  17734.  Ashwin Varghese  right.
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  17735. Doesn't matter. America hates the poor more than it hates rapists.
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  17736. He's an other wallet warrior. He believes that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  17737. Survivorship bias.
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  17738. Not everyone can do those jobs.
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  17739. I've tried to get laid for 7 years to no avail.
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  17740. Exactly
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  17741. Ok
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  17742. Look up the family assistance plan under Nixon. The real reason work requirements exist is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Since welfare is objectively better than dogshit minimum wage jobs, politicians try to force poor people to accept these jobs anyway with work requirements.
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  17743. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Read the family assistance plan under president Nixon.
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  17744. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  17745.  @michelleespino9814  okay
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  17746. Correct.
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  17747. Republicans don't care about the cost. They're willing to pay more as long as they get to see people they don't like suffer. They dislike the poor and minorities.
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  17748. Yep, in my state of North carolina, the republican legislator did this, kicking millions of people off medicaid such as myself.
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  17749. Exactly.
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  17750. Yep
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  17751. ​ @gabrielhersey5546 yes. I'm angry. Angrier news doesn't focus on the poor.
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  17752.  @jamessidebotham  I'm hanging in there!
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  17753.  @thorenrectus8688  it's real.
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  17754.  @babygrill01  Clinton welfare reform actually screwed me over, because I lost my food stamps due to work requirements. I don't work while in school, and working 20 hours a week is pointless since the only jobs I'd get being unskilled are entry-level jobs.
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  17755.  @johnmassie348  you can't get financial aid unless you have good grades. I flunked out of school so I can't get financial aid back until after I've completed 67% of my associates degree. Which I can't do without a scholarship, even with financial aid.
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  17756.  @Destradamose  THAT'S messed up.
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  17757.  @ravageroosgamecorner543  politicians don't want to end poverty because they have not fundamentally solved the welfare trap. I.e. welfare paying more than minimum wage jobs. Republicans lower welfare benefits while Democrats want to supplement the wages of the working poor. The core solution is to raise the minimum wage high enough to compete with welfare compensation.
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  17758.  @babygrill01  Do you support capitalism?
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  17759.  @babygrill01  okay.
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  17760.  @jimmytimmy3680  I'm so happy for you! I won a scholarship allowing me to cover tuition.
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  17761.  @jimmytimmy3680  my replies are gone again and again
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  17762.  @sspectre8217  epic
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  17763.  @Mr.Burberry486  thank you for your input. I'm glad you made it.
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  17764.  @SemekiIzuio  exactly. I forgot to mention after my mom passed I moved back in with my dad and my job is watching my disabled brother. The only way I could $50k(over four years)for tuition plus $60k a year to live independently(both after taxes) is if I was rich. What do I do? Win the lottery? Start a business? Those are my only options since I'm stuck working minimum wage until I graduate.
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  17765.  @SemekiIzuio  my replies keep getting deleted. I'm tired of it
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  17766.  @SemekiIzuio  you're right. i can only count on myself. I am free. I may be nearly 30, but i have no kids or disabilities. I am legally and financially responsible only for my own well-being, and i can obtain a bachelor's degree in physics, and be a isscreenwriter. those are what my heart telling me to do. i will have to have a job, and suffer in poverty for one or two more semesters and transfer to university. getting that degree will by ticket out of poverty and into a PhD program for astrophysics.
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  17767.  @mjones2431  yeah my fault for my mom's sickness and poverty. Smh.
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  17768.  @mjones2431  uh yeah. It's my fault my mom was sick.
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  17769.  @mjones2431  my replies keep getting deleted
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  17770.  @schs1977  LOLOL. What type of heartless position is that? You work and pay taxes right? You don't live in the woods right? If you are a part of society , you've signed up to help others.
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  17771.  @schs1977  leaving won't bring my mom back or create compassion
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  17772.  @SemekiIzuio  do you see my replies?
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  17773.  @schs1977  I haven't been able to win scholarships or grants, universal basic income doesn't exist, I'm cut off from welfare, charity is insufficient, and the minimum wage is a poverty wage. I'm offered no financial assistance despite being poor, intelligent, and dealt a bad hand. I must either quit community college and my goal of even attending university OR I must work and go to school full-time during both fall and spring, AND establish passive income to live during summer and winter. You really think that's possible, probable, or fair?
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  17774.  @the_gilded_age_phoenix8717  that's all crazy and I never thought about that. I not only need more money, but I need to be more hard working and look out for myself. I can't mess getting this degree up. I'll plan out my degree progress. I also wanted to pursue a second career too, although it'd be best to pursue after getting a degree, not during.
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  17775.  @the_gilded_age_phoenix8717  my hardship both caused me to flunk out and stop going. Luckily my academic record has not been erased, I'm allowed to retake my classes. But I wish I was 19 again, rich, and able to help my mom. I guess I'm saying I have to accept my mom and 20s are gone forever.
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  17776.  @the_gilded_age_phoenix8717  that's evil. I would cry if that happened to me. They basically ruined your career before it even started. I should not trust anyone
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  17777.  @the_gilded_age_phoenix8717  beautiful to hear. I forgot to add I was able to win $18k tuition scholarship for community college. So I went from not being able to finish to having tuition covered. I'll going to community college two more semesters. I should 32 credits and a higher GPA by then, enough to transfer.
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  17778.  @the_gilded_age_phoenix8717  I may be 29, but I believe I can get into university and get a physics degree. I just have to work harder than I ever have before.
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  17779.  @the_gilded_age_phoenix8717  thanks. I just am glad I'm not alone(I'm the sense that going to college isn't a breez for everyone
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  17780.  @the_gilded_age_phoenix8717  I guess it's crazy to me the news wants to focus on some poor student getting $300k in scholarships, or another woman getting $15 million in scholarships and 231 university offers, but never shows the dark side of education, all the people who don't make it.
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  17781.  @the_gilded_age_phoenix8717  when I think about it, politics is truly about risk mitigation.
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  17782.  @the_gilded_age_phoenix8717  you're correct. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept.
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  17783.  @the_gilded_age_phoenix8717  where there is a will. There is a way. I believe that.
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  17784.  @mensrea1251  yes. Bad choices. Not having middle class parents and needing $2,300 a month medications. Both are my fault.
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  17785.  @mensrea1251  Poverty level is $20k. Livable income is $50k. Middle class income is $60k. I would have to either have to be far below poverty level or risk losing healthcare, or be far above the poverty level and risk not getting my degree. That's a catch 22.
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  17786.  @sherlyn.a  she did qualify. But Medicaid refused to help her unless she went into hospice. She would've had healthcare, but if she had accepted this, the only person who would've received welfare services still would've been my disabled brother. I also couldn't get food stamps then because of the work requirements, nor could I get section 8 housing because higher education students under 25 were disqualified. So I was fucked again. Tldr the poverty level was $15k, a livable income was $50k, and median income was $60k. If I made a dollar above $15k, I would lose Medicaid. So I either need to be far below poverty level or risk losing healthcare, or far above poverty level but risk not finishing school from being overworked.
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  17787.  @sherlyn.a  I hope my reply didn't get deleted. Basically I said we both had Medicaid, but Medicaid offered her too little help. And had I became independent at 18, I wouldn't have been able to command a $60k salary needed to live independently while going to school full-time(since community colleges don't cover living expenses). I would have had to use welfare, but I would have neither had food stamps nor section 8 housing, leaving me screwed again. Even if I had worked, had made $15/hour, and somehow became full-time, I would've been too rich for Medicaid but too poor to have private insurance.
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  17788. ​ @SemekiIzuio I'll move out
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  17789.  @Xamry  you're welcome.
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  17790. I agree​ @SemekiIzuio 
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  17791.  @starstruckp4808  that's messed up. Thank you for your condolences
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  17792.  @monash4250  thank you for your feedback and understanding.
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  17793.  @monash4250  with what?
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  17794. @blkrenaissancequeen  thank you
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  17795. Yep
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  17796. Exactly.
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  17797.  @ErutaniaRose  exactly. But that's what the rich want, to force people into poverty until they give up.
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  17798. Ok
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  17799. Well I want to lose my vcard.
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  17800. Wow
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  17801. $100,000 a year per cashier.
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  17802. Those people believe rich people deserve government assistance but poor people don't
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  17803. If it helps poor people, then it's wrong. - Fox News Mantra
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  17804. it's disgusting.
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  17805. We can be willing to pay the consequences, if we truly desired people to have UBI.
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  17806. I know.
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  17807. You've never kissed? Dated? Held hands?
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  17808. I don't feel entitled to women. I'm upset men like me can get laid but I can't.
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  17809. This made me use google. Corporate profits were 2.4 trillion. Welfare costs 1.7 trillion annually. If you charged over 8.5 trillion you'd wipe out all corporate profits. Corporate america would collapse.
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  17810. You're right. If we implemented your proposal businesses would pay a $40/hr minimum wage.
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  17811.  @tacocanada1888  You would be fine with a $40/hr minimum wage if it wiped out all social welfare and poverty??
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  17812.  @BrightRavenofAcadia  You're a corporate hack, I don't even know if this you being serious or trolling.
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  17813. ​ @BrightRavenofAcadia  That makes my argument even more potent. Corporate America would collapse if it's annual profits went from 9.5 trillion to 1.1 trillion.
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  17814.  @BrightRavenofAcadia  You literally said you wanted that money to go back into the economy. And i already admitted i read incorrectly.
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  17815.  @BrightRavenofAcadia  And i don't mean the 1.7 trillion, I mean 5x that much(what OP said).
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  17816.  @BrightRavenofAcadia  I misunderstood you.
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  17817.  @colonelangus7535  I misunderstood.
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  17818. I make $10/hr as a cashier. It costs more to pay for food and transportation then what i make from working even if i never got taxed for anything
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  17819. Republicans hate the poor.
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  17820. That's messed up
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  17821. It is about economic considerations- republicans want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  17822. Wow.
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  17823. Wow
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  17824. I don't want to lose my virginity to any woman I have to lie to.
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  17825. I desire to be a physicist and successful screenwriter.
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  17826. Exactly
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  17827. Exactly
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  17828. Reading this made me cry.
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  17829. Lolol they don't work? So they make imaginary money now? So Starbuck Is an imaginary company?
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  17830. I'm changing my life.
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  17831. Doesn't solve the problem of Noone loving you.
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  17832. You're right. I'm 29 years old And male. I've never had sex. I've never kissed, hugged, or held hands.
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  17833. If I'm still a virgin at 30 my life is over.
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  17834. ​ @ShadowsinChina that too.
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  17835. I'm fine with mortgage forgiveness.
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  17836. You're sick in the head if you want a permanent underclass of people.
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  17837. @ayy lmao i know and it's terrible
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  17838. Gotta have an underclass
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  17839. Exactly.
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  17840. That isn't their goal though. They exist to perpetuate poverty and financial institutions.
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  17841. Jesus Christ.
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  17842. I agree.
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  17843. Inflation is an acceptable risk
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  17844. I was involved in education, employment, and training all at once last semester and didn't receive healthcare. Community colleges don't offer health isurance for students at all. Universities don't unless you pursue a degree Full-time. My minimum wage job kept me part-time so I didn't receive health insurance. Internhips don't provide benefits. I couldn't receive obamacare because I was too old. I couldn't receive medicaid because I was able-bodied.
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  17845. Why do people like you want to nickel and dime the poor? Especially when these people aren't criminals in the first place?
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  17846.  @tammyjantzen9004  thank you. I'm tired of being shamed for being poor
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  17847. ​ @dmimz7691 all righty.
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  17848. Yes
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  17849. except it isn't bad choices that results in poverty. Nice way of blaming the individual and not the system.
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  17850.  @TS-bj8my  if mcdonald's and chic fil a adopted higher profit sharing their cashiers would make around $100,000/year.
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  17851.  @TS-bj8my  correct. But workers would have too much power and would make owners feel less important.
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  17852. @Lavelle Lee  corporations screw over the poor by paying workers based on skill, not profitability. I was making $8.50/hr as a cashier at McDonald's, even though on the weekends, the store made $40,000 sometimes.
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  17853.  @TS-bj8my  so am i. But unfortunately, i'm not a billionaire or corporate leader, so politicans don't listen to me.
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  17854. what would you want incels to learn?
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  17855. He makes me angry.
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  17856. Wow that just hurt my feelings.
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  17857.  @amehayami934  I'm an incel and you... described me perfectly....
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  17858. I've never had sex. Or kissed. Dated or held hands. I'm a 27 year old male.
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  17859. I've used tinder for 6 years to no avail.
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  17860. But then again...i have no driver's license, no car, no career, no college education, poor diet, dress poorly, don't exercise, work a minimum wage job, don't socialize or or go to social events or form social clubs. I also live with my mom.
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  17861. Ok
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  17862. Republicans believe in equivalent exchange. The rich and corporations receive everything because they provide everything(limitless money and jobs). The poor and middle class receive nothing of value because they provide nothing of value.
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  17863. You're correct.
    1
  17864. Star Trek ended scarcity through replicators, antimatter, warp drive, and artificial intelligence.
    1
  17865.  @DissociatedWomenIncorporated  okay. I'm referring to federation starships.
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  17866. Okay
    1
  17867.  @griggbaylee5808  ok
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  17868. Priorities
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  17869. Politicians don't want to reform welfare or healthcare because they need people to be poor in order to fuel corporate profits and pharmaceutical subsidies.
    1
  17870. ​@benny-schmidthe believes poor people don't deserve a living wage.
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  17871. Most people on welfare do work. Being lazy isn't unique to poor people either. Stop this stigma.
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  17872. Yes.
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  17873. i have a dog but i'm still a virgin.
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  17874. Lol
    1
  17875. Poor people such as myself can't afford to run for office or we would. Both parties at both conventions ignore the poor.
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  17876. They didn't work hard for it they stole it
    1
  17877.  @ballin._cat.43.  patents.
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  17878. @Money Stacker noone is saying everyone should make the same
    1
  17879. Amazing.
    1
  17880. I have Medicaid at 29 while I'm a self supporting college student(I lost my mom and my dad won't help me with school).
    1
  17881. Yep​ @rebeccanascimento8234 
    1
  17882. I'm crying
    1
  17883. He'd cry he was in poverty.
    1
  17884. Same.
    1
  17885. If people were paid based on profit sharing then cashiers at places like Chic Fil A would have to make $100,000 a year.
    1
  17886. Minimum wage workers have no bargaining power. And the jobs aren't unskilled.
    1
  17887.  @steve_m2473  lol.
    1
  17888. Because it's about deservedness.. Those people believe poor people don't deserve government assistance, but rich people do.
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  17889. ​ @cariwaldick4898 Exactly!! 100%!!
    1
  17890. ​@cariwaldick4898 h The real reason he opposes a living wage minimum wage is due to morals. His ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  17891.  @arlandolittle7625  that's a simple math calculation
    1
  17892. @cariwaldick4898  I agree with you. His morals are disgusting. Also, I would amend your statement- many poor people work part-time to avoid benefits. In my situation. Last spring. I was taking 2 classes at community College, 1 class at a 4 year school, working as a cashier, being an intern, and volunteering, and helping take care of my sick mom. All at once. I was still in poverty
    1
  17893. @arlandolittle7625  what? I don't want to retire as a cashier, or be a cashier at all. In other countries. Colleges are tuition free AND the students receive a monthly stipend(even if part-time) so they don't have to work. Maybe get mad at greedy corporations who refuse to pay more for American labor, greedy bankers who profit off of high tuition, not me wanting to better myself through education.
    1
  17894. @cariwaldick4898  yes. People act like a living is like the weather- something you observe and predict but cannot control.
    1
  17895.  @cariwaldick4898  What do you think of my situation?
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  17896. @arlandolittle7625  you confused two things I said. I said corporations are greedy for refusing to pay more for American labor. The real problem is major corporations.
    1
  17897.  @cariwaldick4898  Exactly
    1
  17898.  @biggreen9845  A doctor can refuse to work for $10/hr. A cashier can't. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  17899.  @cariwaldick4898  he believes in just-world fallacy.
    1
  17900.  @cassady7169  are you the same Cassady who comments on other threads?
    1
  17901. @cassady7169  being a cashier is a dead-end job. Not everyone can be promoted out of a low wage job. The government sets a low minimum wage. It does not mandate employers offer benefits like paid sick leave. It gives businesses too much power to quash unionization efforts. The labor market system is designed to allow low wage, low benefit jobs to proliferate.
    1
  17902. @cassady7169  people work...for money. You understand this, right? No doctor or lawyer volunteers their labor. People need food and transportation, whether they work for 3 months or 3 years. Just because you are young does not mean you have parents who are capable and willing to support you financially.
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  17903.  @cassady7169  i don't know why you support poverty. value is subjective, but yet here you are saying some people's value is worthless.
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  17904. Correct. But poor people such as myself can't fight against corporate media.
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  17905. ​ @jermainemyrn19 corporations and government both depend on each other. It isn't poor people.
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  17906. My replies are deleted again
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  17907.  @jermainemyrn19  I remember you from secular talk
    1
  17908.  @jermainemyrn19  exactly. Why do poor people get hated?
    1
  17909.  @jermainemyrn19  remember Herbert gans functions of poverty.
    1
  17910.  @jermainemyrn19  brother you have no idea how long I've been waiting for your response LOL.
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  17911.  @jermainemyrn19  but yes the essay perfectly sums all the entire welfare debate.
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  17912.  @jermainemyrn19  my notifications are messed up and I just saw your reply about you being on workers comp
    1
  17913.  @casnimot  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  17914.  @jermainemyrn19  what did you think of the Herbert gans essay?
    1
  17915. If the physical constants in the second Universe are the same as in this one, then the wormhole could exist there.
    1
  17916. Eventually the universe will die out, so if you could travel to other universes you could travel to a much younger one in terms of its age, so you could avoid proton decay and the heat death of this universe.("older" one).
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  17917. These politicians disgust me.
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  17918. Because poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. So politicians restrict welfare so poor people will be forced to meet the demands of greedy corporations.
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  17919.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  do you believe women deserve to vote?
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  17920. @They wouldn't have to censor me if I wasn't right  Why is it okay for the government to help women vote but not help people not be poor? Both poverty and women having the right to vote are policy choices. Why is one form of suffering acceptable?
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  17921. @They wouldn't have to censor me if I wasn't right  if you had to pay for women to vote, are you saying you wouldn't support women voting then? We pay a price for women having voting.
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  17922. @They wouldn't have to censor me if I wasn't right. Everything has a price. Everything has consequences. We can pay the price for women to have voting, but we are unwilling to pay the price to ending poverty.
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  17923.  @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  poverty is literally a policy choice. I don't recall saying ending poverty means paying everyone the same. All poverty is is having a shortage of resources relative to needs. It's simple but not cheap to make sure people are not poor. The united states government has pumped trillions into corporations, wars, pharmaceutical subsidies, and corona virus relief. And trillions of dollars on tax cuts for the rich. It is within our power to end the poverty. It is not among our priorities
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  17924. Except we don't all want that.
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  17925. You mean 12 dollars or 12 THOUSAND dollars?
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  17926. MIT already calculated a living wage. You are delusional if you think owning a phone means you make enough to buy a house or car or pay for healthcare.
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  17927.  @ericmccance4149  because having an iphone means you can afford a house...
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  17928. You have to not be poor to afford a prostitute. Most incels are NEETs or work minimum wage. Also, legalizing prostitution does not solve anything because you can't buy intimacy.
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  17929. A prostitute doesn't offer genuine affection. Me using one is pointless
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  17930. Update. I'm still a virgin
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  17931. You believe in just world fallacy of you think laziness caused this.
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  17932.  @crabring  you would have to be rich to do such a thing.
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  17933. ​ @crabring you can't pay $10,000, $20,000, $40,000 a year tuition working a minimum wage job. you can't pay for living expenses either.
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  17934. ​ @crabring minimum wage cannot pay for college, it can't even support one person. Everyone cannot obtain scholarships.
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  17935.  @crabring  I'm not arguing for perfect equality, I'm arguing for less inequality.
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  17936.  @crabring  I won a full tuition scholarship.
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  17937. That wouldn't have helped elliot Cause his problem was not lack of sex, it was feeling entitled to women. Sleeping with a Hooker would not have changed the fact that he couldn't control women.
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  17938. ​ @marianmiller2802 because poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  17939. ​ @katanah3195 ok
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  17940. ​ @skbwolverine you're right!
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  17941. Minimum wage is a policy choice. Policies can change. Policies do change.
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  17942. The minimum wage can be changed to be a career level wage.
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  17943. That's messed up.
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  17944. What the profits places like Chick-fil-A make their cashiers could make six figures.
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  17945. You can be too ugly to get matches on tinder like myself.
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  17946. Yeah that's not happening.
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  17947. You are correct.
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  17948. Denying benefits is terrible because benefits are necessities. That's like denying women voting. Corporations don't pay the full cost for college. Corporations pay at most $3,000/yr a year when college is $10,000/yr.
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  17949. Wow
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  17950. Politics is about money.
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  17951. I'm poor. I'm on medical and food stamps while going to college because minimum wage jobs and internships pay too little. And I am supporting myself while going to school. I've won some scholarships and grants, hopefully I'll win a full ride.
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  17952. I'm an incel. At 28 I've never kissed, dated, held hands or had sex. I'm unhappy every day.
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  17953. I'd say poverty and social isolation are what make me incel.
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  17954. Ok
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  17955. ​ @blackthornsloe8049 he's a troll
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  17956. I'll lower my standards
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  17957. That's the point- poverty must exist in order for corporations to maintain power.
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  17958. If we really had robust social programs or a guaranteed minimum income, nobody would work shitty minimum wage jobs.
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  17959. What he really means is the government grant pays more than the low wage job, meaning there's no incentive to working. It'd be like a doctor relying on food stamps.
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  17960. That's a risk
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  17961. He's rich and famous
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  17962. You're correct.
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  17963. It's easier to blame the poor, who can't fight back.
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  17964. @HunterPhenomMakoy  the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. It is a debt free life, not helping impoverished students, that bill maher deems intolerable. Debt forgiveness is a policy choice. Poverty is a policy choice. War is a policy choice too.
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  17965.  @HunterPhenomMakoy  presidents refuse to accept the risks in fighting against war. Therefore, they don't want to end war.
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  17966. Conservatives hate poor people.
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  17967. I work very hard as a cashier, but only make $10.50/hr.
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  17968. I've used dating apps for 4 years to no avail
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  17969. Yep
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  17970. I don't choose
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  17971. I'm fine forgiving those.
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  17972. ​@robertweber1291 times change. So do values. How about get mad at greedy corporations, not poor people wanting to eat
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  17973.  @robertweber1291  not everyone can afford college.
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  17974.  @robertweber1291  you also admit minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  17975.  @robertweber1291  if a company offers you health insurance if you're full-time, hires you, then you forces you to be part time to avoid this, then yes, the corporation is greedy.
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  17976. Dark energy has a positive energy density, it repels things because the energy density of dark energy is constant as space expands which produces a negative pressure. In addition, as far as scientists know the energy density is very small and cannot be made arbitrarily large or change over time. For dark energy to count as exotic matter, it's energy density would have to be enormous, as well as negative. If its energy density was as enormous as needed for Wormholes, then it would have blown the universe apart long ago. On the other hand if its energy density was constant and negative, it would produce a positive pressure causing cosmological blue-shifting and not red-shifting, meaning the universe would be contracting and not expanding.
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  17977. But the energy density of dark energy is still constant, there's no pressure gradient anywhere. And the expansion of space it causes is very small compared to what's needed for a wormhole.
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  17978.  @daragol1238  although the bottom line is not enough is known about dark energy to be able to use it to create a wormhole.
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  17979. The amount of energy needed is still enormous. How would you produce it? Even antimatter wouldn't provide enough energy.
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  17980. Dark Energy exists within galaxies just as it exists between them. However, the amount of dark energy within galaxies is so small that the gravity generated by matter alone overwhelms the negative pressure produced by dark energy, even ignoring the other much stronger fundamental courses. Only in Intergalactic space, where there's far more dark energy than regular energy, can dark energy produce a noticeable effect due to the enormous volume of the universe. So you would need to travel to Intergalactic space, collect enormous amounts of dark energy, then bring it back. But how do you travel to and from Intergalactic space? That would require near light-speed but slower than light travel which is impractical. Even if you could travel near the speed of light safely to reach Intergalactic space, you could not collect dark energy because it only interacts through gravity and there still a very small amount of it in space. If it only interacts with matter gravitationally, then you cannot taste dark energy, see it, touch it, smell it, or store it.
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  17981. Yep.
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  17982. Because poor people don't deserve handouts according to them.
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  17983. Biden could expand federal loans and automatically enroll all public students in a federal loans program that is 100% forgiven. This would provide free college plus limit tuition cost as colleges can only be eligible if their tuition stays below $12,000 a year.
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  17984. The government doesn't want truly free college
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  17985. Ok
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  17986. Because it's about the cornerstone of conservative ideology- they morally oppose social insurance. The fortunate helping the misfortunate
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  17987. Dr. Sabine, you could tell me if my theories on antimatter are accurate: 1. Micro black holes can produce antimatter as they evaporate via hawking radiation. 2. Q balls, a form of dark matter, "flips" matter into antimatter. Gravitational radiation can store electrically neutral antimatter.
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  17988. Conservatives lack empathy and introspection.
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  17989. This reminds me of the movie Idiocracy: where politicians expect poor people to achieve more with less. Let's provide financial aid for poor people(like food stamps) who don't make enough money to survive but also oppose a living wage minimum wage.
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  17990. Good analysis, but this strike reveals something terrible about politics. Politicians have a very simple choice you can have worker solidarity exist, or you can have poverty exist, but you can not have both. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. It is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  17991. ​ @williamjenkins4913  oh wow.
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  17992. I'm an incel and I'm happy for any incel FINALLY getting laid.
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  17993. ​ @moogyboy6 ok
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  17994. thank you for your condolences. @pinkmenace2452 
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  17995. ​ @pinkmenace2452 thank you
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  17996. So a raise of $2.75 over 4 years...
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  17997. Which are policy choices.
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  17998. @jan6742 so what are men supposed to do who want to lose their virginity?
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  17999. @jan6742 I'm not gay.
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  18000. @jan6742 ok I'll do it
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  18001. ​ @mireillelebeau2513  that would wipe out any profit increases.
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  18002. ​ @mireillelebeau2513  or tax them 6x the amount their employees use in welfare benefits.
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  18003. Because you aren't seeing the whole picture, neither is Ana: Medicaid and welfare programs provide higher compensation than crappy minimum wage jobs so politicians use work requirements to ensure that poor people are always forced into these dead-end jobs. Your solution won't work because Medicaid exists PRECISELY because such recipients don't have high enough income to purchase health insurance.
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  18004. Exactly. It's why I don't vote.
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  18005.  @zacharybrand8145  murder and rape are unacceptable Poverty and hunger are not. Not to politicians. The problem is shifting our values.
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  18006. ​ @zacharybrand8145 I'll vote
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  18007.  @bobbun4369  you're trolling.
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  18008.  @bobbun4369  adults that don't have the advantage of additional education or training beyond high school.
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  18009.  @bobbun4369  no one with viable skills would take a minimum wage. Only people who don't have skills would(education or responsibility). A doctor isn't becoming a cashier.
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  18010. Yep.
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  18011. Ok
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  18012. I love this SUV.
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  18013. Work requirements force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  18014.  @concernedrn2844  minimum wage jobs are dead end and give you no skills. No, all jobs don't lead to careers. You're missing the point that work requirements exist to force poor people into jobs that don't possibly provide them with the money or skills to survive without welfare.
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  18015.  @marirosahofmann4634  yep
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  18016.  @marirosahofmann4634  my mom is dead and I'm broke school student. Food. $700 Health insurance. $600 Rent. $2,000. Car insurance. $500. That's roughly $4,000 a month after taxes. That isn't realistic for me to make while in school without winning the lottery or a scholarship.
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  18017.  @marirosahofmann4634  I can't make $4,000/month After taxes working part-time in school.
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  18018.  @marirosahofmann4634  my replies are gone
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  18019.  @billcollins6894  my replies keep getting deleted I can't respond to anything
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  18020. Except the market isn't some God that magically sets perfect wages.
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  18021. Lol.
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  18022. What is the correct reason?
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  18023.  @robertjenkins6132  I thought federal taxes controls demand for US currency... And can't fed simply print $1 trillion and give it to the poor? And can't government raise wages to outpace inflation?(if inflation is 8% raise salaries by 2x-5x that amount)
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  18024.  @iller3  mate I don't think buying shoes is why people are poor.
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  18025. Why that low? $12 is still too low to raise a family on.
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  18026. Lol except by definition it's a minimum not a maximum. You're acting like we all want to pay people the same.
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  18027. It doesn't matter what it's meant for...it matters what it is. As of now, usa is replete with service sector, Low wage jobs, there aren't 53 million engineering jobs available.
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  18028. Get a skill...via an education they can't afford into a job market that pays low wages anyway.
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  18029. Yep.
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  18030. If that's the case then places like Chick-fil-A would have to pay their cashiers $100,000 a year
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  18031. It's called survivorship bias.
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  18032. How about this: pay people more to return to work! Everyone has a price. Employers will be forced to offer higher wages in face of ubi
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  18033. So that isn't annual income? That's basically borderline poverty.
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  18034.  @carlostosado8965  you'd have to be a millionaire or billionaire to afford the American dream now.
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  18035.  @carlostosado8965  housing may be affordable there but healthcare/college are no't. Not out of pocket. And the South has lower home prices due to higher concentrations of poverty.
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  18036.  @carlostosado8965  lol. 25 years to pay for a house.
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  18037.  @carlostosado8965  Crazy. You'd think if the rich "helps" everyone people could buy houses in a few years or outright.
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  18038. Except corporations do NOT want that.
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  18039. I'm a kissless virgin at 28
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  18040.  @patricksaxon3983  yes it is the fault of the rich and powerful for poverty.
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  18041.  @patricksaxon3983  go ahead and believe that fantasy.
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  18042.  @Sturmbannfuhrer21  minimum to live.
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  18043. I'm autistic and a former incel.
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  18044. A business with no employees doesn't function, stop shitting on minimum wage workers.
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  18045. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoshi
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  18046. Yes
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  18047.  @Darron_Matsumoto  okay cool
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  18048.  @Darron_Matsumoto  exactly. Now you agree with me. Now you understand a terrible truth: many Americans Do not want poverty to end. It has nothing to do with taxes or the deserving vs undeserving poor. It is a simple fact of life: if you have $1 billion or a medical degree, you would not accept being paid wages so low that you literally cannot survive on them even working 90 hours a week, which such jobs don't allow you to work anyway
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  18049. They weren't. He just believes the rich deserve to keep what they "earned."
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  18050. That's what I hope to do before I'm 29
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  18051. Because poverty is a policy choice.
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  18052. Yep
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  18053. Same
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  18054. Exactly.
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  18055. People should be working only one full-time job and getting benefits and a living wage. corporations screw over workers by keeping workers part-time so they are ineligible for benefits. If I was in charge, I would tax corporations two to five times the amount their employees used in welfare benefits. And part-time employees would have a higher wage than full-time ones to offset them being ineligible for benefits.
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  18056. Correct. The poor always get the short end of the stick.
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  18057. That's the problem: corporate greed, not poor people.
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  18058. Yep
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  18059. That's messed up
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  18060. The idea that the system is working fine, is a classic example of the just-world fallacy.
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  18061. If I were to live on my own: $2,000/rent $500/car insurance $600 health insurance $1,000/month isn't going to help me
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  18062.  @LoveElectricStuff  it's why I'm fucked.
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  18063.  @LoveElectricStuff  it's why I'm on welfare.
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  18064.  @ada443  I'm a new driver. I was paying $400 for a 30 year old car. Yeah I need to get cheaper car insurance.
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  18065. I wish I had a scholarship.
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  18066. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education scholarship?
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  18067. Ok
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  18068. Yep.
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  18069. Yep
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  18070. That's depressing.
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  18071. Because making housing affordable for poor people isn't profitable.
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  18072. Explains why she opposed minimum wage increase.
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  18073. I'm on Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer healthcare.
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  18074. My healthcare costs $2,000 a month
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  18075. Ok
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  18076. They'd vote for a $50/hr minimum wage then.
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  18077. Except corporations want people to be poor.
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  18078. ​@Cthulhu_lives it'd be much higher if corporations adopted higher profit sharing.
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  18079. @justsomeguy6336  that is an acceptable risk. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is a debt free life, not continued poverty, you deem unacceptable.
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  18080. ​ @wresling300 ok
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  18081. That's messed up as well. Ffs that's awful.
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  18082. That's evil
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  18083. Yep
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  18084. He wants to increase poverty
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  18085. Conservatives are fundamentally opposed to policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class.
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  18086. That's messed up
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  18087. She's lying. The real reason welfare has work requirements is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  18088. My replies are gone. Wow
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  18089. What I said was Republicans use work requirements to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  18090. ​ @katieandnick4113 exactly
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  18091. If you're poor you can't afford to sue
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  18092. ​ @Justin4u4me yep.
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  18093. Having a job doesn't eliminate the demand for welfare. Everyone can't afford daycare.
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  18094. ​ @Joey-ct8bm ok
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  18095.  @youcancallmecoop  nice
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  18096. Rofl
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  18097.  @riocannistrano756  all prices rise except wages...
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  18098. Of course
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  18099. college in his time was around $800 a year, and that included everything: tuition, books, housing, campus fees, parking, etc.. And with just a 4% annual inflation rate adjustment, $6 in 1979 translates to over $42 today. So he was essentially making the equivalent of $87,000 a year.
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  18100. Minimum wage would be $45/hr overnight.
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  18101. Because it's within our power to abolish poverty. It is simply not among their priorities.
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  18102. @julesdalli9716  because of their values. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. Many conservatives reject wealth redistribution because they value individual economic growth over collective welfare, meaning they don't actually want poverty to end. that our political values and choices are most clearly revealed by the boundaries we set—particularly by the risks we're unwilling to take. In other words, the issues or changes we avoid, the policies we oppose, or the groups we’re hesitant to support may say as much, or even more, about our beliefs than the stances we openly advocate. For example, if a society resists risk-taking on issues like climate action due to economic concerns, that may reveal a deeper priority for immediate economic stability over long-term environmental sustainability. Similarly, if people reject policies aimed at wealth redistribution, it could reflect a preference for individual economic freedom over collective welfare. By examining the "risks we refuse to accept," we can better understand what values, fears, and priorities truly drive our politics. It’s often in these areas of resistance where the core truths about political beliefs and societal values come to light.
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  18103.  @julesdalli9716  my replies were deleted
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  18104. No, punish corporations for using cheap labor ​ @drmodestoesq 
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  18105. ​ @ilexevergreen5405 yep
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  18106. ​ @drmodestoesq no
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  18107.  @ilexevergreen5405  ok
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  18108. Women can have sex whenever they want. But men can't. How is that fair?
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  18109. You mean medicaid.
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  18110. I'm 29 and receive medicaid
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  18111. But Republicans don't want to admit the system is the problem.
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  18112. ​ @kiq654 I'm a kissless virgin at 29
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  18113. Ok. I'm working on my social skills. Hopefully I'll lose my virginity before August 18th.
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  18114. Wish me luck.
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  18115. Correct.
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  18116. Why is working at Starbucks some immoral act now?
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  18117. Is that bad?
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  18118. Are you mad about that?​ @bobkelly8644 
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  18119. My replies are gone
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  18120.  @bobkelly8644  no, I meant the overall existence of welfare in general.
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  18121.  @bobkelly8644  ok. The real reason Republicans hate welfare is because it empowers poor people to reject minimum wage jobs.
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  18122.  @bobkelly8644  my replies are gone.
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  18123.  @bobkelly8644  I get a headache over this.
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  18124. Corporations support illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  18125. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  18126. They embrace the hate but delude themselves into thinking they'll be rich one day.
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  18127.  @GreenGardenGamer  just-world fallacy
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  18128. Yep.
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  18129. I've lowered my standards to 0 and I'm still a virgin.
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  18130. No. People shouldn't have to earn their way out of poverty
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  18131.  @rrmackay  we lead by ideals. We base what to do on the way the world is and ought to be. Poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity. Once we acknowledge that certain things are unjust, then we can take actions to correct that injustice.
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  18132.  @rrmackay  why do you insult me just because you disagree with me? I didn't insult you. It's a policy choice in USA. The war on poverty helped lift many people out of poverty. The War on poverty didn't end poverty because several core factors exist that politicians and the public fundamentally don't want to deal with. For starters, America is a low wage nation. The right wants welfare to be diminished(in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs) and the left wants welfare to supplement the wages of the working poor, which does nothing to ensure that workers aren't in poverty in the first place. There is a massive gap between the rich and the poor, and many people are unwilling to pay higher taxes to support income redistribution that would lower this gap. Education generally increases one's skills and financial earnings, but was made expensive by Reagan. Many people are unwilling to pay the price for affordable college as well.
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  18133.  @rrmackay  people are unwilling to pay the prices that would accompany Poverty's dissolution, meaning many people find poverty acceptable.
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  18134.  @rrmackay  how are my ideals unrealistic? We don't find poverty unacceptable. That's all I'm saying here.
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  18135.  @rrmackay  my replies are deleted. Of course it was an insult, because every time I suggest poverty is a policy choice and that people are unwilling to eliminate it, people call me crazy rather than accepting that I'm right.
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  18136. Yeah except learning things online doesn't equal a degree. I desire to be a physicist. I need an associates of science, then Bachelor's degree in science, then PhD in astrophysics. That's 10 years of school. I'm very poor so I use welfare and charity programs in order to survive.
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  18137. Internships don't pay enough for me to live on, my last internship was $900/semester
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  18138.  @iwill9131  so basically you're saying only big banks and the rich can afford to keep up with the prices on homes?
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  18139.  @iwill9131  no. $1k a month...is slavery...
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  18140. ​ @avarice25 yep.
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  18141. ​ @Praisethesunson exactly
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  18142. Republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty: free college, higher minimum wage, ubi, etc.
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  18143. Because incels are not gay and they don't truly hate women.
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  18144. Exactly ​ @markaddison4642 
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  18145. Won't solve anything
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  18146. Government hates poor people
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  18147.  @undertow2142  yes
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  18148. Not everyone can move on or move up.
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  18149. And college students need to live too.
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  18150. Yep.
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  18151. That's messed up.
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  18152. Why is that an argument for poverty wages?
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  18153.  @fungdark8270  that isn't an argument.... I'd rather people have a degree and not need it than to need it and not have it. And how would one train for the job you want? There isn't some national jobs training program.
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  18154.  @fungdark8270  there doesn't need to be student debt since other countries not as wealthy as ours offer free college. Trade schools cost too much money as well and on top of that free community college was axed in the build back better bill. There are job training programs yes but not enough to give 53 million low wage workers better skills.
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  18155. Ezra Klein wrote a NYTIMES post about this. By Ezra Klein Opinion Columnist "I'm not going to pretend that I know how to interpret the jobs and inflation data of the past few months. My view is that this is still an economy warped by the pandemic, and that the dynamics are so strange and so unstable that it will be some time before we know its true state. But the reaction to the early numbers and anecdotes has revealed something deeper and more constant in our politics. The American economy runs on poverty, or at least the constant threat of it. Americans like their goods cheap and their services plentiful, and the two of them, together, require a sprawling labor force willing to work tough jobs at crummy wages. On the right, the barest glimmer of worker power is treated as a policy emergency, and the whip of poverty, not the lure of higher wages, is the appropriate response.Reports that low-wage employers were having trouble filling open jobs sent Republican policymakers into a tizzy and led at least 25 Republican governors — and one Democratic governor — to announce plans to cut off expanded unemployment benefits early. Chipotle said that it would increase prices by about 4 percent to cover the cost of higher wages, prompting the National Republican Congressional Committee to issue a blistering response: “Democrats’ socialist stimulus bill caused a labor shortage, and now burrito lovers everywhere are footing the bill.” The Trumpist outlet The Federalist complained, “Restaurants have had to bribe current and prospective workers with fatter paychecks to lure them off their backsides and back to work.” But it’s not just the right. The financial press, the cable news squawkers, and even many on the center-left greet news of labor shortages and price increases with an alarm they rarely bring to the ongoing agonies of poverty or low-wage toil. As it happened, just as I was watching Republican governors try to immiserate low-wage workers who weren’t yet jumping at the chance to return to poorly ventilated kitchens for $9 an hour, I was sent “A Guaranteed Income for the 21st Century,” a plan that seeks to make poverty a thing of the past. The proposal, developed by Naomi Zewde, Kyle Strickland, Kelly Capatosto, Ari Glogower and Darrick Hamilton for the New School’s Institute on Race and Political Economy, would guarantee a $12,500 annual income for every adult and a $4,500 allowance for every child. It’s what wonks call a “negative income tax” plan — unlike a universal basic income, it phases out as households rise into the middle class. “With poverty, to address it, you just eliminate it,” Hamilton told me. “You give people enough resources so they’re not poor.” Simple, but not cheap. The team estimates that its proposal would cost $876 billion annually. To give a sense of scale, total federal spending in 2019 was about $4.4 trillion, with $1 trillion of that financing Social Security payments and $1.1 trillion supporting Medicaid, Medicare, the Affordable Care Act and the Children’s Health Insurance Program.Beyond writing that the plan “would require new sources of revenue, additional borrowing or trade-offs with other government funding priorities,” Hamilton and his co-authors don’t say how they’d pay for it, and in our conversation, Hamilton was cagey. “There are many ways in which it can be paid for, and deficit spending itself is not bad unless there are certain conditions,” he said. I’m less blasé about financing a program that would increase federal spending by almost 20 percent, but at the same time, it’s clearly possible. Even if the entire thing was funded by taxes, it would only bring America’s tax burden to roughly the average of our peer nations. I suspect the real political problem for a guaranteed income isn’t the costs, but the benefits. A policy like this would give workers the power to make real choices. They could say no to a job they didn’t want or quit one that exploited them. They could, and would, demand better wages or take time off to attend school or simply to rest. When we spoke, Hamilton tried to sell it to me as a truer form of capitalism. “People can’t reap the returns of their effort without some baseline level of resources,” he said. “If you lack basic necessities with regards to economic well-being, you have no agency. You’re dictated to by others or live in a miserable state.”But those in the economy with the power to do the dictating profit from the desperation of low-wage workers. One man’s misery is another man’s quick and affordable at-home lunch delivery. “It is a fact that when we pay workers less and don’t have social insurance programs that, say, cover Uber and Lyft drivers, we are able to consume goods and services at lower prices,” Hilary Hoynes, an economist at the University of California at Berkeley, where she also co-directs the Opportunity Lab, told me. This is the conversation about poverty that we don’t like to have: We discuss the poor as a pity or a blight, but we rarely admit that America’s high rate of poverty is a policy choice, and there are reasons we choose it over and over again. We typically frame those reasons as questions of fairness (“Why should I have to pay for someone else’s laziness?”) or tough-minded paternalism (“Work is good for people, and if they can live on the dole, they would”). But there’s more to it than that. It is true, of course, that some might use a guaranteed income to play video games or melt into Netflix. But why are they the center of this conversation? We know full well that America is full of hardworking people who are kept poor by very low wages and harsh circumstances. We know many who want a job can’t find one, and many of the jobs people can find are cruel in ways that would appall anyone sitting comfortably behind a desk. We know the absence of child care and affordable housing and decent public transit makes work, to say nothing of advancement, impossible for many. We know people lose jobs they value because of mental illness or physical disability or other factors beyond their control. We are not so naïve as to believe near-poverty and joblessness to be a comfortable condition or an attractive choice. Most Americans don’t think of themselves as benefiting from the poverty of others, and I don’t think objections to a guaranteed income would manifest as arguments in favor of impoverishment. Instead, we would see much of what we’re seeing now, only magnified: Fears of inflation, lectures about how the government is subsidizing indolence, paeans to the character-building qualities of low-wage labor, worries that the economy will be strangled by taxes or deficits, anger that Uber and Lyft rides have gotten more expensive, sympathy for the struggling employers who can’t fill open roles rather than for the workers who had good reason not to take those jobs. These would reflect not America’s love of poverty but opposition to the inconveniences that would accompany its elimination. Nor would these costs be merely imagined. Inflation would be a real risk, as prices often rise when wages rise, and some small businesses would shutter if they had to pay their workers more. There are services many of us enjoy now that would become rarer or costlier if workers had more bargaining power. We’d see more investments in automation and possibly in outsourcing. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that we treat as intolerable. You can see it happening right now, driven by policies far smaller and with effects far more modest than a guaranteed income.Hamilton, to his credit, was honest about these trade-offs. “Progressives don’t like to talk about this,” he told me. “They want this kumbaya moment. They want to say equity is great for everyone when it’s not. We need to shift our values. The capitalist class stands to lose from this policy, that’s unambiguous. They will have better resourced workers they can’t exploit through wages. Their consumer products and services would be more expensive.” For the most part, America finds the money to pay for the things it values. In recent decades, and despite deep gridlock in Washington, we have spent trillions of dollars on wars in the Middle East and tax cuts for the wealthy. We have also spent trillions of dollars on health insurance subsidies and coronavirus relief. It is in our power to wipe out poverty. It simply isn’t among our priorities. “Ultimately, it’s about us as a society saying these privileges and luxuries and comforts that folks in the middle class — or however we describe these economic classes — have, how much are they worth to us?” Jamila Michener, co-director of the Cornell Center for Health Equity, told me. “And are they worth certain levels of deprivation or suffering or even just inequality among people who are living often very different lives from us? That’s a question we often don’t even ask ourselves.” But we should.
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  18156. Tax corporations 2x-5x the amount of money their employees use in welfare benefits
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  18157. Seems like an excuse for wage slaves. Every job deserves dignity.
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  18158. Many Americans want workers paid based on "skill"(education level) NOT productivity/inflation/cost of living. People are fine with a doctor making $900k a year but cashiers making $90k a year is a tragedy.
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  18159. The reason many Americans want jobs to be paid based on skill is because skill is a direct measure of effort. If people got paid simply on the amount of money they helped produce and not skill then one's effort would amount to nothing as a cashier could be making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.
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  18160. You believe in just world fallacy.
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  18161. Yep.
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  18162. Exactly ​ @darlenegriffith6186 
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  18163.  @Nutrollio  we are.....
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  18164. Because poor people can't afford private insurance and most minimum wage jobs don't offer health insurance either?
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  18165. I'm on medicaid because my blue cross blue shield health insurance premium is $436 a month. I make minimum wage. I can't afford that.
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  18166. Oh okay
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  18167.  @mrdot1126  because then people with minimal skills take minimum wage jobs and rely on welfare to make up the difference for crappy wages. The former leads to a smaller tax contribution and the latter causes your tax dollars to subsidize corporations.
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  18168.  @ariadettloff9684  if you're referring to free college that's fine. If you're referring to food stamps it is not fine.
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  18169. How do men like myself lose their virginity then? That's are only barrier
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  18170. That's sad
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  18171. Except that will be opposed as since workers have too much bargaining power
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  18172. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
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  18173.  @shadowmixx  nothing anymore. It's a way of me coping with....some tragic news in my life. Ever since I got the news I've been a recluse, I've realized I need to virtually unplug and go out more.
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  18174. He was looking at the outdated poverty measure, not the one you're referencing.
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  18175. It's 140 million people.....
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  18176. I'm an incel because I can't convince any woman to sleep with me who likes me(i.e. hooker and pity sex don't count).
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  18177.  @notyourtypicalfarah7194  so what now
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  18178.  @shawnshields521  it Is incel because they can't have sex with women who like them.
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  18179. I just noticed that too.
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  18180. That's evil
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  18181. Read my comments about it. Look up family assistance plan
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  18182. Correct
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  18183. Yep.
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  18184. Exactly But I haven't lost my virginity yet
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  18185. I'm so sorry for your loss.
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  18186. Conservatives don't believe unskilled workers deserve a middle class lifestyle
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  18187. Politicians won't change. Regular Americans are struggling to get by.
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  18188. Correct.
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  18189. Accounting for current inflation you'd need to pay around $45/hr. To completely eliminate welfare people would need to make $61.08...
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  18190. Why?
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  18191. Idk why either.
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  18192. Alot to read but prostitution won't help me.
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  18193. How is that legal?
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  18194.  @asdfasdf4924  that's messed up.
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  18195. That's brutal to say
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  18196. They already are to avoid being eligible for benefits
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  18197. Republicans believe poor women don't deserve to have children
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  18198. Because they believe poor women don't deserve to have children
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  18199. He hates the poor.
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  18200. Exactly.
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  18201. Conservatives are dumb like that.
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  18202. My replies are gone.
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  18203.  @asdfasdf4924  thanks
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  18204.  @asdfasdf4924  my replies are gone AGAIN
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  18205.  @AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov  they're implying poor people don't deserve to be middle class.
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  18206.  @asdfasdf4924  okay
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  18207.  @terryowen6759  yep.
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  18208. I don't support exploited labor
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  18209. That's messed up.
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  18210. I wish politicians made the minimum wage of their state. For the entirety of their term.
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  18211. That's depressing.
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  18212. Our economy isn't in a position to create more jobs, only shift the number of jobs around.
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  18213. Mainstream media is funded by rich people who can be protected by 24/7 armed security. They're disconnected from reality.
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  18214. That's the problem, Bill DOESN'T believe poor people deserve to enjoy themselves! Much less escape poverty!!
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  18215. Not everyone can work.
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  18216. Except the real reason conservatives oppose this is because they believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty
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  18217. Republicans want to cut medicaid or restrict it with aork requirements in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  18218. So you're more concerned with having cheap prices than workers having a living wage
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  18219. CEO made $14 million/yr before the pandemic. Now it is $38 million.
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  18220. Your premise is incorrect: you are assuming these rich people think poverty is wrong. They do not. They oppose a living wage because they believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money. They ALSO oppose welfare because they believe poor people haven't worked hard enough to earn government assistance. Tldr conservatives oppose government policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class.
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  18221. Correct.
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  18222. With inflation minimum wage should be over $53 now.
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  18223. Why do politicians ignore the poor?
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  18224. ​@berinmindit is if the loan is a scam. I'm with auto loan forgiveness.
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  18225. No one will ever agree on that because people have different values.
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  18226. ​ @farmerjohn6526 work requirements do nothing. Most poor people already work.
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  18227. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  18228. Reagan wanted poor people out of higher education.
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  18229. Lol.
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  18230. It is called just-world fallacy, it fuels Republicanism.
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  18231.  @tommohsien888  so you admit retail jobs are dead-end?
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  18232.  @tommohsien888  someone has to work there.
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  18233.  @NotYourBusiness-bp2qn  that's fallacy of relative privation.
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  18234.  @Jay_Frank  yes
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  18235.  @kingluithe1st  everyone cannot be a business owner though. That being said, I quit the cashier job. I focus on school instead. Life tragedies happened and I'm 29 at college
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  18236.  @kingluithe1st  you expect everyone to start their own business?
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  18237.  @tommohsien888  ok
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  18238.  @traviswebb3532  fine
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  18239. Except these conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty
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  18240. Yep
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  18241. Do you think it would be a good thing if employers actually offered to pay for college?
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  18242. At McDonald's, where I used to work, in the supermarket, I'm working now their tuition reimbursement is $2500 a year. That means you'd have to work 4 years at minimum wage to pay for one year of college.
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  18243. I wish my company offered a living wage+benefits +full ride scholarship
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  18244. Unskilled? In the 70s you only needed a high school degree to earn decent pay with just a factory job. Now those jobs have been replaced by minimum wage jobs
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  18245. No woman has difficulty obtaining sex.
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  18246.  @davidthehudson  tax walmart 5x what its employees uses in welfare would change things quickly.
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  18247. Okay
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  18248. ​@beni exactly
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  18249. ​ @sethstor people like you only complain when the government helps poor people. Rich people have received 3.5 trillion in tax cuts, but forgiving student loans is too much to ask?
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  18250. Yep.
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  18251. It's about priorities. Politicians have the power to eliminate poverty. It is simply not among their priorities.
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  18252. Wow
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  18253. Obi wan
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  18254. Capitalism-helping the rich Socialism or communism - helping the poor
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  18255. No billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs. Thus, rich people in USA have no incentive in ensuring everyone can become wealthy or skilled. To this end, education in the USA is kept expensive in order to lock poor people out of higher education and maintain an underclass.
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  18256. He's gotten laid.
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  18257. Idk
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  18258. Because people believe poor people don't deserve that
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  18259.  @bodaciouscowboy  why is that?
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  18260. Biden can have federal loans be eligible for universities that charge a certain amount of tuition.
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  18261. I'd go beyond that. I tax corporations 2x to 5X the amount their employees used in welfare benefits. And like you said, if they can't pay that fee, they get shut down.
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  18262.  @j.d.s.8132  do you really think a woman would date someone like me? i feel like a man-child if i was involved in education, employment, and training all at once but couldn't afford to go to the movies.
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  18263.  @j.d.s.8132  I guess i wasn't trying hard enough. That makes me feel worse, but all I can do now is focus on getting a job and scholarship. and ultimately license and car. I"m nearly 30, i don't want my dad to drive me around forever.
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  18264.  @j.d.s.8132  i'm me in my youtube channel and i've been called attractive before. Even if i was deemed ugly, i don't think that's a dealbreaker considering many poor and ugly men get laid.
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  18265. UBI empowers poor people so that won't pass either
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  18266. @Carrie Ullrich  Ironically, the reason republicans believe this is because of calvinism. According to their doctrine, it is hard work, not faith, that is the path to salvation.
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  18267. He can win the popular vote but still lose the presidency
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  18268. noone would care then.
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  18269. That's messed up.
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  18270. According to the poor people campaign, 140 million people are poor. That's close to half the country.
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  18271. Wow.
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  18272. Ok
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  18273. College is expensive to keep poor people out of education and into low wage jobs.
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  18274. Because nobody wants to watch the news given by poor people like myself
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  18275. So you're a paraplegic?
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  18276. One. Incels feel entitled to free sex so they see no reason to pay for it. 2 incels want control over women, not sex.
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  18277. Yes as a rich person.
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  18278. Your comments are why ubi doesn't exist(according to politicians) 1. People believe being rich or middle class is a privilege 2. Minimum wage workers don't deserve to be middle class 3. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits 4. Disabled people are viewed as worthless since they can't work.
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  18279. There are lots of jobs like actors that don't require a degree or experience like grocery baggers that pay as much as doctors that people aren't mad about. What you are really upset about is not economics at all but status. You simply believe some jobs and some people provide value to society and others do not.
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  18280. That's crazy
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  18281.  @darknexis8  irony.
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  18282. ​@leobigelow7021 the cost isn't the problem, it's the benefits: workers would have too much bargaining power.
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  18283. ​ @leobigelow7021 and paying higher taxes is something they'd be willing to do if they truly prioritized ending poverty.
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  18284. Ubi could be structured to help only the poor.
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  18285.  @leobigelow7021  depends on what the money is used for. War? Corporate bailouts? Tax cuts for the rich? I'm mad. To abolish poverty and hunger? I'd accept a 60% pay cut.
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  18286. @leobigelow7021  I'm not an army of one. We can change our priorities if we truly wanted to. Every political issue is a policy and moral choice. My salary has nothing to do with my argument.
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  18287. Welfare is restricted to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  18288. Read two things Herbert gans functions of poverty Family assistance plan
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  18289. A high school diploma alone hardly gets you a high paying job nowadays....
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  18290.  @richardhammock5363  um... Why doesn't every worker need a high paying job? And most workers do so that's good enough.
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  18291.  @richardhammock5363  they're upset that college is not affordable anymore. College used to be 5-10% the cost of what it is now because states covered most of the cost. Also if college isn't affordable in the first place then you cannot go....in the first place. And no, there aren't enough scholarships/loans to cover everyone. Hell. Even if you got a federal loan you have to maintain good grades and minimum number of credit hours....good luck if you're living in a poor high stress home...good luck if you can only take 1 or 2 classes at a time while working and thus don't qualify for help.
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  18292.  @richardhammock5363  by that logic why not have people opt out of paying taxes for police? Since not everyone uses them. Not everyone uses public schools so not everyone should fund that either, right?
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  18293.  @richardhammock5363  debt won't be paid off, just canceled.
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  18294.  @richardhammock5363  yes wages are way too low. Most jobs pay minimum wage or slightly above it. While congress lets this continue.
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  18295.  @richardhammock5363  my point Is not everyone uses services they pay taxes for.
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  18296.  @richardhammock5363  um. .yes...that is the point. Poverty/lack of money should not be a barrier to pursuing a college education. I'm aware not everyone can or wants to college. That doesn't negate my point.
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  18297. $18/hr is a living wage for a single person. $60/hr minimum wage for a family of four.
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  18298. Yep.
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  18299. @bane3991  hello. I don't believe we all want the same things. If we did, we would be willing to accept whatever risks in changing.
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  18300.  @bane3991  the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. Applying this to all policies reveals we don't find all deprivation unacceptable.
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  18301. @bane3991  I don't want to go over all 10 major issues that matter the most to me, but look up nixon family assistance plan, republicans opposed it because it was a guaranteed income and democrats opposed it because it was too insufficient(in amount). Decades after the FAP, those same principles apply: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Politicians don't want to force corporations to stop paying people slave wages, corporations won't stop on their own either, and many Americans refuse to accept workers gaining more bargaining power to eliminate poverty based work as well. Being a doctor isn't a dead-end job. Being a cashier is.
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  18302.  @bane3991  if McDonald's cashiers made $100,000/yr tomorrow, if all women had reproductive rights, if all immigrants became American citizens, if all poor people could literally receive a $900 million/year income grant unconditionally, America would NOT universally support ANY of these things, not like we support women voting or freedom of speech.
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  18303. That's messed up
    1
  18304. This is why I have low respect for any black middle class conservative. How do Republicans get voters when their representatives are openly racist?
    1
  18305.  @pvpsultan3040  there's virtually no hunger because unhealthy is relatively cheap and massive anti poverty programs that go to people who DO work. If we abolished SNAP, section 8, HUD, Medicaid, etc., hunger would become wide spread because the core problem is jobs do not pay enough.
    1
  18306. Here's some math for you: median home price in my area is 300k. To pay it off in 5 years taking 30% of your annual income requires making 200k a year or $96/ hr. You'd have to make $600k/yr or more to buy the home outright. You need far more money still to afford healthcare out of pocket. Even more money still for college.
    1
  18307.  @pvpsultan3040  I'm saying houses used to be cheap enough to pay them off in a few years.
    1
  18308. Without medicaid i can't go to university since federal work-study jobs and minimum wage jobs don't offer health insurance.
    1
  18309. Wow.
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  18310. For poor people yes they deserve to suffer...according to Republicans
    1
  18311. LOL.
    1
  18312.  @mamamia5668  no LOL.
    1
  18313.  @marleybot9848  yep.
    1
  18314. Poverty is a systemic problem. That's like blaming black people for the KKK.
    1
  18315.  @shaduck06  what are you saying?
    1
  18316.  @shaduck06  yes. I'm saying that's a systemic problem....
    1
  18317. Yep.
    1
  18318. Exactly.
    1
  18319. That made me cry.
    1
  18320. $28 an hour in 1976, $41 an hour accounting for cost of college.
    1
  18321. They don't care about how smart you are, only how hard you work/valuable your skill set is.
    1
  18322. They only care about how hard you work
    1
  18323. Never
    1
  18324. Exactly.
    1
  18325. You caught that too?
    1
  18326. Yep
    1
  18327. ​ @lilboyblue3000 I want sex. I want to lose my virginity.
    1
  18328. ​ @lilboyblue3000 you can't buy intimacy or affection
    1
  18329. You can't buy intimacy or passion
    1
  18330. Exactly
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  18331. Trump is going to cut welfare, not pass universal healthcare, keep higher education expensive, exploit illegal immigrants, and drive up inflation. It's a bummer poor people like myself can't afford to run for office.
    1
  18332. I'm a NEET now(I was going to community college, doing an internship, volunteering, and helping my family).
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  18333.  @michellecd4722  beautiful to hear. I'll be on my way! My top priorities are earning a full ride scholarship, gaining independence l, and finding a better job that suits me.
    1
  18334.  @michellecd4722  I was a successful screenwriter once.
    1
  18335. I believe I'll lose my virginity.
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  18336. ​@Oflameo a hooker doesn't offer genuine affection. Using one changes nothing about the fact I'm not able to attract her.
    1
  18337. ​ @oflameo8927  i worked minimum wage. I doubt a hooker would accept being paid $0.50 an hour.
    1
  18338.  @oflameo8927  No.
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  18339.  @oflameo8927  why would I try one?
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  18340.  @oflameo8927  know what for sure? Your first comment was deleted
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  18341.  @oflameo8927  you can't buy affection.
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  18342. @ThiS-Bish-Annyd  thank you brother. I'm hanging in there.
    1
  18343.  @debanikgoswami4834  okay. I'll get a license and car while I'm at it. And a job..
    1
  18344. I'm 29 and a virgin. It's my fault​ @debanikgoswami4834 
    1
  18345. Ok
    1
  18346. ​ @eryian  exactly.
    1
  18347. The irony.
    1
  18348. Wow.
    1
  18349. Correct. But that's admitting poverty is a systemic problem. Conservatives believe in just-world fallacy
    1
  18350. The workers.
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  18351. ​@Jim Waszak which are influenced by workers.
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  18352. Ben Shapiro believes poor women don't deserve welfare or children
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  18353. Why so few?
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  18354. That's still millions of people... That's like saying "only" 13% of people get raped. Maybe if college was affordable more people would go. You're aware half the country is in poverty correct?
    1
  18355. Idk.
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  18356. Exactly
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  18357. You're not hearing the true point here, the reason that work requirements exist is to ensure that poor people are always forced into working crappy minimum wage jobs.
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  18358.  @wurst1284  that's messed up. And trust me. I know. I'm making $10.50/hr as a cashier with no benefits.
    1
  18359. It's terrible.
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  18360.  @jimpalmer201  yep
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  18361. I'm 28 years old. I'm still a virgin. I've been rejected dozens of times.
    1
  18362. Yeah. Pay a $120,000 college bill making $11/hr.
    1
  18363. Exactly.
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  18364.  @Jackson_M5  that's a moral issue.
    1
  18365.  @Jackson_M5  you're more concerned with paying $40 for a pizza than lifting workers out of poverty. That shows me how poorly you view minimum wage workers.
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  18366.  @Jackson_M5  and that you don't deem poverty intolerable
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  18367. @axe863  inflation poses a real risk, as prices often rise when wages rise. And unemployment might increase from workers making more. There might even be increases in automation and outsourcing. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that we find unacceptable. We are not willing to empower workers to reject dead-end jobs and crappy wages.
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  18368. @axe863  corporations want to depress wages by disempowering workers, whether immigration exists or not. And corporations support illegal immigrantion because what they want is access to labor forces who can't afford to argue and will thus work very hard for very low rates of pay.
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  18369. @axe863  no I'm saying what risks we're not willing to take, shows us where our priorities lie. You and many others are not willing to take the risks in fighting against poverty, in empowering/balancing the power differential between employees and employers. Which means poverty isn't intolerable like rape is. That is what this minimum wage debate really reveals.
    1
  18370. Just-world fallacy
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  18371. I don't think any incel will realize this until they get a girlfriend in the first place.
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  18372. I'm incel...
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  18373. ​@cindyp5132 greedy corporations have ruined this country. But people hate poor people so much that this hatred blinds them to the real problem.
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  18374. Even $30/hr isn't.
    1
  18375. Yep.
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  18376. ​ @jphamny my mom died in sickness and poverty. My sister, disabled brother, and I received no money or material possessions, leaving us financially screwed.
    1
  18377. Yes.
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  18378. Hell, can my job subtract four jobs? $10/hr No benefits No tuition assistance No promotion possibility
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  18379. Democrats don't want to help the disabled and poor either, they're just more quiet about it.
    1
  18380. Republicans believe it you can't work you have no value
    1
  18381. Democrats want disabled people in poverty too.
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  18382. Ok
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  18383. That's eugenics, buddy.
    1
  18384.  @TheWorldisQuietHere3  ok
    1
  18385. Yes
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  18386. ​ @cassady7169  yep.
    1
  18387. Exactly. It's all messed up.
    1
  18388. Are you arguing against the minimum wage being enough to support a family?
    1
  18389.  @judykraska400  If I had the power I would give corporations a choice: either I would tax them five times the amount their employees used in welfare benefits or I would tax them five times the amount their employees have in consumer debt.
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  18390. Because Republicans want poverty to exist to coerce poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  18391. Because it's not about economics, it's about ideology. politicians have the power to end poverty. it's simply not among their priorities.
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  18392.  @Kai-tn4yx  not to 15.
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  18393.  @Kai-tn4yx  45 per hour? How is that insane?
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  18394.  @afry6400  he can do every single thing i mentioned through executive order.
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  18395.  @afry6400  Politicians are just ruled by greed. That's not something you can get rid of.
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  18396.  @stephensciara2397  He's a troll. Ignore him.
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  18397.  @stephensciara2397  Do you agree with what I've said?
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  18398.  @brian2440  Biden does have the ability to expand Obamacare. Any executive order the president gives can be over turned by Congress. I never claimed otherwise.
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  18399.  @brian2440  I never said the president can overrule Congress. Obviously Congress could reject any proposal by the president and vice versa.
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  18400.  @brian2440  Not 90k for poverty level. He mentioned in a recent speech 15/hr isn't enough and wanted wages to raise hourly pay to $45/hr. I'm saying he could do that.
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  18401.  @brian2440  yes. That's what i said...each can veto the other. We're going around in circles.
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  18402.  @brian2440  If that's the cost of paying people more then so be it. 2nd off, Popular Restaurants like Chic Fil A make millions in sales annually at each location. Paying even $100k per worker does not consume all of those sales.
    1
  18403. That's messed up.
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  18404. ​ @michellecd4722  yep.
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  18405.  @xmobile.  Okay
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  18406. What you aren't seeing is that many conservatives don't believe poor people deserve to earn a living wage.
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  18407. They also oppose welfare because it empowers poor people. Look up why family assistance plan failed
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  18408. They want poor people to be forced to work for slave wages
    1
  18409. I'm 29. I'm a kissless virgin
    1
  18410. I'm broke and sit at home
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  18411.  @FaceSilence  people who believe that life will turn out fine as long as you work hard subscribe to just world fallacy.
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  18412. It's no wonder 80% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
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  18413.  @hughquigley5337  I agree 100%
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  18414.  @emort6  that's a loaded question. Some actions are acceptable, some are not.
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  18415. @emort6  There are many people who have families. And there are far more poor people than rich people.
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  18416. @emort6  20 is the guideline. Cities can vary the minimum wage, but it must start as a floor where no one working is eligible for welfare.
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  18417.  @emort6  yes...they can... 20 in one place. Another might be 35. And so on.
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  18418. @emort6  the two vary yes. You can still use it as a guideline.
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  18419.  @emort6  I thought I said in another thread that I accept whatever risks and prices in fighting against poverty.
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  18420.  @amercanmade2685  that is an acceptable risk.
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  18421. @emort6  you've heard of the trolley problem, right? I got my own. Someone you love is on the train track and is about to be run over and killed. You can press a button to stop the train and save them. The catch is that there is a 70% chance that your arm will get cut off. 30%, it won't. You'll live either way, but you won't have an arm. Now, if you truly loved this person, you'd take that risk. You'd take it even if there was a 100% chance you lost your arm. Obviously, you wouldn't take that same risk to save everyone else. If you truly are opposed to not taking the risk, you don’t truly want the person on the track to live
    1
  18422. It makes me sick to my stomach
    1
  18423. Yes. Incels like myself need to grow up.
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  18424.  @jaythephoenix  yep. A supermarket I visited paid their cashiers $10/hr, with a raise of $0.50
    1
  18425. I would abolish all private schools
    1
  18426. I've asked women if they want to take my virginity. Somehow, I'm creepy.
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  18427. ​@NightRidah777 eugenics? You want that?
    1
  18428. You can't but that's the point
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  18429. Because conservatives believe in just-world fallacy. They believe anyone can become anything they want through effort alone. Either luck does not exist or it is not a contributing factor. Consequently, if you are born poor it isn't your fault but if you die poor it is. Helping the poor become middle class or rich is rewarding failure in conservative people's eyes and that is anathema to them.
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  18430. No.
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  18431.  @user-wi3yx3gy2o  if that was the case(profit sharing) cashiers at places like Chick-fil-A would be making around $100,000/yr.
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  18432.  @Cthulhu4President  beautifully said.
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  18433.  @user-wi3yx3gy2o  oh okay. I misunderstood. I thought you meant higher profit sharing then. I.e. instead of corporate owners taking 75% of profits for themselves they take maybe 50% and distribute the extra 25% to employees wages.
    1
  18434. And if printing money caused inflation...oh wait...quantitative easing ...yield curve control....
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  18435. I won't
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  18436. So this is a moral issue to you: you believe poor people don't deserve this much money.
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  18437. You give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing. That's how politicians think
    1
  18438. Yep.
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  18439. ​@markzuckergecko621 because of welfare.
    1
  18440. That's evil.
    1
  18441. That made me cry reading that.
    1
  18442. The point is to perpetuate poverty. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  18443. Pay based on profits or size of business?
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  18444. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills
    1
  18445. They all should be free
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  18446. Damn that was hurtful to read. You described my life.
    1
  18447.  @metamorphicorder  beautiful. I'll keep at it. Life is beautiful. I will not give up hope.
    1
  18448. ​ @metamorphicorder I got my driver's license. I applied to 3 4 year universities for physics and might get in.
    1
  18449. Unlike him, I'm poor, have no car, house, income.
    1
  18450. Yep.
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  18451. Good
    1
  18452. ​ @bobcobb7992 you can not enforce this
    1
  18453. That's messed up.
    1
  18454. $16 million a year
    1
  18455. Wow.
    1
  18456. You're actually bringing up other issues: 1. Too Low of a minimum wage 2. Cancelation of car debt/provide reliable cars for everyone 3. Government not mandating benefits like pensions for workers. 4. There being too few STEM lord jobs available
    1
  18457. ​ @adw802 disgusting mindset
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  18458. I'm happy he got laid. I'm an incel virgin myself.
    1
  18459. As an incel myself, this is true. I've been lazy expecting women to fall into my lap. It's probably why I'm a virgin at 28.
    1
  18460. Exactly
    1
  18461. We don't have free education to change this
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  18462. All 3. Minimum wage jobs offer nothing.
    1
  18463. True.
    1
  18464. These politicians are rich pricks.
    1
  18465. Yep.
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  18466.  @Rowsy91  their companies become successful due mainly to very strong intellectual property laws and lax restrictions on acquisitions and mergers.
    1
  18467.  @Rowsy91  so it's government welfare, not hard work.
    1
  18468.  @Rowsy91  welfare still.
    1
  18469. You are correct.
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  18470. Rich people deserve money because they earned it. You give money to people who are hard working, not lazy. Republican ideology 101
    1
  18471. ​ @michellereed3272 beautiful.
    1
  18472. Yep.
    1
  18473. Exactly
    1
  18474.  @Dennis-nc3vw wow
    1
  18475.  @Don.M.  exactly
    1
  18476. Troll​ @nocucksinkekistan7321 
    1
  18477. ​ @stanhry that's messed up
    1
  18478. ​ @stanhry I'm going to community college and made $900 a SEMESTER as an intern.
    1
  18479. THIS
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  18480. i'm glad you believe i deserve more than $10.50 an hour as a cashier.
    1
  18481. Yep
    1
  18482. He steelmanned his argument without realizing it.
    1
  18483. $61/hr.
    1
  18484. ​ @tommyboym6563 sounds good.
    1
  18485. He did a video on him
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  18486. It's called hating the poor.
    1
  18487. Correct.
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  18488. Depressing
    1
  18489. Ok😊
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  18490. 401k is offered at 0% match, making it worthless.
    1
  18491. Exactly
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  18492. Basically fox news opposes policies which help reduce poverty.
    1
  18493. Exactly
    1
  18494. Corporate greedd
    1
  18495. That's disgusting.
    1
  18496. Wow.
    1
  18497. Companies would never do that for unskilled workers.
    1
  18498.  @sandshark2  yes. The core assumption of a "fair" labor market is false because workers don't consent.
    1
  18499. No, minimum wage debate is still important
    1
  18500.  @100lamadrina8  exactly.
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  18501. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  18502. Elliot felt entitled to women. You don't pay for something owed to you.
    1
  18503. Exactly.
    1
  18504. LOL. Yes!
    1
  18505. Steelmanning an argument is amazing.
    1
  18506. Politicians don't want that
    1
  18507. ​ @abundancehousellc lol
    1
  18508.  @chellefin  wow
    1
  18509. It's messed up.
    1
  18510. Yep
    1
  18511. Amazing.
    1
  18512. Ok.
    1
  18513. Correct.
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  18514. Because not everyone can work
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  18515. David Pakman, if you see this, i want to explain this to you: 1. Many conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty 2. Republicans hate welfare because it empowers poor people to reject slave wages 3. Poverty persists mainly to force poor people to do society's dead-end and undignified jobs, jobs nobody would do if everyone was affluent or skilled 4. Read and dissect herbert Gans essay, "Functions of Poverty."
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  18516. ​ @douglasduda9826 that's more greed on corporations part
    1
  18517. Yep
    1
  18518. Universal healthcare doesn't exist in USA because the government doesn't want the poor and disabled to have healthcare
    1
  18519. ​ nicolasgirard2808 ok.
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  18520. I'll just spit shine my boot straps
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  18521. Basically $50k isn't anywhere near enough for a full ride.
    1
  18522. They want to make poverty seem rare and thus deserving.
    1
  18523. ​@samsadowitz1724 most conservatives believe in just-world fallacy, hence they're afraid of changing the system.
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  18524. ​ @samsadowitz1724 my notifications messes up.
    1
  18525. ​ @katiekane5247 that's messed up.
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  18526. Someone has to work at Walmart
    1
  18527. conservatives believe in just-world fallacy.
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  18528. Jesus.
    1
  18529. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier. I spent more money on gas than what I made
    1
  18530. Exactly.
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  18531. Exactly.
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  18532. Exactly.
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  18533. Not possible to enforce this
    1
  18534. Can you are more concerned about mitigating the risk of food shortages in unemployment? Than in ending poverty
    1
  18535.  @terryowen6759  why not? this is about priorities. Either you deem the working poor an unacceptable situation or you do not.
    1
  18536. Exactly
    1
  18537. It's messed up.
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  18538. I'm changing my life so I can lose my virginity. I'm 28 years old. It bothers me every day.
    1
  18539. Yep
    1
  18540. I'm not dangerous
    1
  18541. ​ @TheNinthGeneration1 exactly
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  18542. I voted for Harris even though i didn't want to vote at all I'm a grown man and i believe voting is useless. My mom died because welfare was restricted. Welfare is restricted, illegal immigrants are exploited, universal healthcare won't get passed, and people rely on welfare and charity and debt to make up for low wages, all for the same reason: Rich people want to depress wages and make people dependent
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  18543. Politicians believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing
    1
  18544. I'm a virgin at 28.
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  18545. He opposes sectoral bargaining.
    1
  18546. ​ @chrislizzt5156 exactly
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  18547. These people are so dumb that i don't think they realize that.
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  18548. So they say minimum wage jobs are temporary and will give you the skills needed to get a better job. Really? So all I need to do to become a doctor is work at Target for three months? I just bag groceries or do some other minimum-wage job for a few months and I can get that engineering job I've always wanted?
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  18549. They know
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  18550. Extreme poverty.
    1
  18551. ​ @tomorrowhowever7488 that's messed up.
    1
  18552. Medicaid spending would go down if jibs provided healthcare.​ @elijah_9392 
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  18553.  @tsukesthoughts  exactly. Bagging groceries is a dead-end job that gives you no skills
    1
  18554. Poverty is a policy choice, like giving women the right to vote.
    1
  18555. The point is to perpetuate poverty
    1
  18556. The right believes poverty is deserved.
    1
  18557.  @cwkay6847  all jobs can have a living wage.
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  18558.  @cwkay6847  skill alone does not determine productivity/wages. It's difficult to become rich because of mainly employment and education. There are far more hourly, low-paying, part-time jobs than there are salaried, skilled, full-time jobs. These jobs offer few if any benefits and no job security. As far as education goes no one except Millionaires and billionaires can pay for college out-of-pocket. You are delusional if you believe a minimum-wage worker can come up with $120,000 in a few months( avg cost of degree). Living wage is enough to support yourself and a family including the cost of housing and transportation and Healthcare. It varies place to place because of cost of living and inflation but both of those things can be accounted for. Living wage differs between countries because of different standards of living.
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  18559.  @cwkay6847  considering many universities have a 30k tuition/per year(most expensive ones are 70k/yr and some are even 10k/yr), you're looking at 120k for a four year degree. If the degree is longer or the tuition is larger you will need even more money. I mentioned the few months thing because many individuals believe education can improve your income but ignore the fact that most people simply don't have enough money to begin with to pursue education. Millions of people make 35k a year or less. There is no way someone who makes 35k a year, even if they lived alone, was not taxed, and spent nothing, could work even 100 hours a week and come up with 120k in a year or less and immediately pursue schooling. And on top of that, tuition isn't the only cost to college anyway, so one would need to make even more money.
    1
  18560.  @cwkay6847  millionaires and billionaires rely on government welfare to become rich, it isn't because of hard work or skill. The rich rig the rules of the economy in their favor to skyrocket their own wealth. Intellectual property laws, market concentrations from there being no practical upper limit on the quantity or quality of acqusitions and mergers, and technological innovations have skyrocketed the wealth of millionaires of billionaires mostly. Without IP laws, the entire STEM private sector would be obliterated: big pharma, military industrial complex, software, computer hardware, construction, etc.. The entire entertaiment industry collapses too. The same applies to acqusitions and mergers-limit them enough and you end up with 0 billion dollar corporations, or 0 corporations at all. Whom do I consider rich is anyone who makes more than me? You're resorting to personal attacks just because I'm poking holes in your argument.
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  18561.  @cwkay6847  and finally looking at the world as a whole? that's the fallacy of relative privation. Just because my life could be worse does not mean it cannot currently become better. Making 7.25 hour or even 30 an hour makes one richer than the 2 dollars a day than some people in poorer countries make. but 30 an hour isn't paying for college(six figure price tag), housing(200k-500k in most places), the list goes on and on.
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  18562. Poor people like myself have no voice.
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  18563.  @kierstenridgway4634  I voted. But I want to be the voice on the news.
    1
  18564. Because you're misunderstanding republicans. They treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable. They would prefer workers to be poor and Desperate versus having the power to make changes and contest corporations.
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  18565. You don't have the right to tell others how much money they deserve to make.
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  18566. Yep
    1
  18567. Wow
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  18568. The median home price is $470k, millions make less than $30k.
    1
  18569.  @KrustyKlown  welfare and debt make up for poverty wages.
    1
  18570.  @BillBarr4President  that's lots of people who have a good reason to complain?
    1
  18571.  @BillBarr4President  I made $10.50/hr as a cashier at a supermarket. That isn't even enough to afford gas or clothes
    1
  18572.  @ryanadams0922  she hates minimum wage workers and believes they deserve poverty.
    1
  18573. Meaning biden only wanted to help the rich?
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  18574. ​ @paulpease8254 he judges people by skills. To him, cashiers are worthless
    1
  18575. Yep.
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  18576. except business owners don't want to do that. they prefer providing cheap goods and services over providing living wages.
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  18577. ​ @antonlowe5370 LOL.
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  18578. Because republicans oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. The point is to perpetuate poverty.
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  18579. Exactly. I work as a cashier at a grocery store.
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  18580. I'm twenty-eight years old
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  18581. My co-worker is retirement age but still works due to being in poverty
    1
  18582. Okay I'll listen to you
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  18583. The reason food stamps have work requirements is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  18584. Yep.
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  18585. Poor people can't afford lawyers nor can they outspend corporations and billionaires. * you aren't guaranteed a lawyer in a civil court case.
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  18586. He also has already made billions more. He makes $500 million to $2 billion per year.
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  18587.  @kirilmihaylov1934  portfolio managers manage huge sums of money( stock market. Usually acquisitions and mergers) and take a percentage of any profits made.
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  18588.  @kirilmihaylov1934  yeah. I mean.. Still $2 billion... I literally could not fathom making that much
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  18589.  @kirilmihaylov1934  I'm not poor but $2 billion....jesus.
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  18590. ​ @powderedphantom5765 I see
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  18591. I'M TRYING😊
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  18592. Yep.
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  18593. Inflation is an acceptable risk
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  18594.  @BrettShadow  inflation is the risk that must be taken to empower workers.
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  18595.  @BrettShadow  a minimum wage is needed to provide bargaining power to low wage workers.
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  18596.  @BrettShadow  1. Not everyone can increase their skill level. Not everyone can even work. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  18597.  @BrettShadow  all of them? Being a cashier increases neither your level of education nor your level of responsibility no matter how long someone is employed there. Ditto for baristas, janitors, and other MW jobs. Such jobs provide no benefits like health insurance or paid sick leave as well.
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  18598.  @jayroman1978  That's messed up.
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  18599. Because it's the fallacy of relative privation.
    1
  18600. But forgiving student loans can't happen?
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  18601. Holy crap.
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  18602. Wow
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  18603. Correct
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  18604. Yep
    1
  18605. 50 percent
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  18606.  @sporkles7427  it might be because food stamps is restricted to working. Which is evil
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  18607.  @joannefitzpatrick992  Republicans won't do that because it reduce state funding for Medicaid.
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  18608.  @LittleGrayMouse  the fact disabled people are seen as worthless due to "needing to work to be valuable" is a calvinists mindset and disgusting
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  18609.  @elizabethjarrett8473  beautiful to hear
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  18610.  @elizabethjarrett8473  my replies are gone and I don't get notifications anymore.
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  18611. Because they are only pro life for the middle class and upper class. Not the lower class/poor.
    1
  18612. Yes.
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  18613. I guess poverty will take a smoke break in the mean time
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  18614. Healthy sex drive? I used to masturbate 6x a day. I used to watch porn 8 hours a day. I want sex almost more than anything else, yet I am a virgin at 28. An HHKV even.
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  18615. Wow
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  18616. Beautiful. You're correct
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  18617. There are too many poor people: 140 million people are in poverty.
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  18618. Yes
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  18619. It's called just-world fallacy
    1
  18620. Yep.
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  18621. That's enough to eliminate poverty
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  18622. The real reason GOP hates welfare is simple: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  18623. Yep.
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  18624. ​ @draco2xx  Per YEAR?
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  18625. They're cherry-picking to justify extreme wealth
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  18626. It's called survivorship bias
    1
  18627. Messed up
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  18628. The example was anecdotal and misleading but workers don't have enough bargaining power to negotiate for higher pay.
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  18629. Value is subjective. You can choose to value anyone's skills at any level you want.
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  18630. @Barry Robbins  That's not what he's really saying. What he's really saying is he is an other wallet warrior: He believes that minimum wage workers deserve to make nothing, that they don't deserve to make a living wage.
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  18631.  @UTTX  value is subjective. Wait...question for you: if Subway paid their sandwich makers $60/hr, how would you feel?
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  18632.  @UTTX  that answer is unknown.
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  18633. @Kyle Reber  I'm not asking this economically, I'm asking this to you as an ideological question: do you believe workers deserve to make that much? Do you believe they deserve a wage high enough to escape poverty? I'll say this directly: the truth of our ideological values lies not in what we're willing to do, but in what we're not willing to do. Our values lies in the risks we refuse to take. The prices we are unwilling to pay. The consequences we do not like to tolerate. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. It is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable. So which do you find unacceptable? If you support one, then you oppose the other. USA could end poverty with more robust income support programs.
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  18634. @Kyle Reber  5 hours a week? Yes. Bad at their job vs. someone else? Yes. Aren't as productive? Yes. Don't produce enough? Usa is wealthy enough to help small businesses. I don't know why you're even asking this question. The US government has spent trillions of tax cuts for the rich, wars in the Middle East, corporate subsidies, and covid relief(the $4.5 trillion relief bill was originally $10 trillion). Politicians can end poverty. It's not among their priorities. What I'm saying is that isn't what is truly at stake here. I'm not talking about the capability to help someone else. I'm talking about the willingness. If corporations and politicians were truly willing to end poverty, they would accept whatever consequences, prices, and risks in fighting against it. They are not willing to do that. Which means they do not want to end poverty. This is a moral issue, not an economic one. Poverty is not deemed wrong like kidnapping is.
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  18635. Republicans don't want a living wage minimum wage.
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  18636. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  18637. Why?
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  18638. Yep
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  18639. Lol​ @bmichellew2010 
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  18640. ​ AurielArts Jesus f christ
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  18641. ​ AurielArts yes
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  18642. yep.
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  18643. Because women can have sex 24/7.
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  18644. LOL as if having kids should condemn you to poverty.
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  18645. @panhandlersparadise1733  then blame corporations for refusing to pay people enough to support kids. And the government for backing corporations. Not parents who simply want to experience the American dream.
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  18646. no one wants to be poor. Poverty is intolerable to me, whether the person in question has kids or not. As for the core problem here, welfare actually is the solution here, not the problem you claim. The real reason politicans oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. I.e. an income grant via welfare would be larger than the income from a low wage job, or most jobs in particular. Rather than forcing corporations to stop paying people slave wages, politicians back corporations by restricting welfare. Ultimately, this is about power. If corporations were fine with all workers demanding better wages, the government would never have to step in and subsidize low pay. @panhandlersparadise1733  or lack of benefits. I'm not saying everyone makes the same, but people wouldn't be expected to work for slave wages with no benefits.
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  18647. @@cggc2832 how about instead of arguing for population control, argue for corporations to pay people enough.
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  18648. It's called using welfare to make up the difference. In my state, inflation in groceries alone has made it to where most supermarkets make 75 to 78% of their sales from food stamps.
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  18649. And only up until recently they restricted welfare to people who were under the age of 25. So when I turned 25, I lost Medicaid, and I was not able to get food stamps or anything. In fact I can never get it since I have no kids or disabilities, despite me being low income. Long story short if you're past the age of 25, without kids or disabilities, you are ineligible for any and all welfare no matter how low income you are.
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  18650.  @Ashs-kitchen  yes. Now you see why I don't vote / hate America.
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  18651.  @Ashs-kitchen  America is not only wealthier than Australia but wealthier than every other country on earth. In fact America constitutes something like 30% of the world's GDP. Yet as a cashier, a PS5/gaming console costs more than what I make in 2 weeks. I literally make less than $500 every 2 weeks. I'm not saying I want to own five homes and six cars but it sucks.
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  18652. Yep
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  18653. Yeah. I'm out here thinking making 100k makes you rich.
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  18654. ​ @nataliekhanyola5669 I want to lose my virginity.
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  18655. That's depressing
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  18656. ​ @trinleywangmo wow
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  18657. Most doctors refuse my Medicaid
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  18658. Work requirements are messed up altogether.
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  18659. Able-bodied has no basis in any field of science. It's a moral term used to imply certain poor people don't deserve help.
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  18660. Fallacy of relative privation
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  18661. Yep.
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  18662. Wow
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  18663.  @platoniczombie  it's messed up.
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  18664.  @threeofeight197  yep.
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  18665.  @bootmii98  that won't stop the underlying problem of corporations wanting to depress wages.
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  18666.  @threeofeight197  both can be done.
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  18667.  @TheMediaMachine  I'm sorry.
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  18668. @platoniczombie  it reveals corporations don't find poverty unacceptable.
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  18669.  @platoniczombie  I don't think voting matters. This change concerning immigration and poverty has to be as deep as women having the constitutional right to vote.
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  18670.  @bootmii98  that's a great start:)
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  18671. @platoniczombie  I don't think it's the existence of physical borders. Rather, the problem here is what the borders represent- fear of change. Us vs them. I brought up women's suffrage to highlight political conflict: Women are considered equal to men and women deserve to vote. Immigrants are NOT considered equal to citizens. Citizenship is NOT seen as a right.
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  18672.  @platoniczombie  i.e. just as fundamentally capitalists believe cashiers and doctors aren't equal, many Americans see immigrants and the poor as "lesser than."
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  18673. Yep
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  18674. Wrong. They don't want poor people to have children, that's why they oppose both abortion and welfare
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  18675. Because Republicans hate the poor.
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  18676. Because they want poverty to exist to feel superior about their own status
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  18677. Exactly
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  18678. Correct.
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  18679. Poor people can't afford to run for office. It's circular logic.
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  18680. I can't afford to run for office as a cashier making less than $11/hr
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  18681. Well..yes. Who is dumb enough to believe that?
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  18682.  @ReetinEntertainment  they wouldn't.
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  18683.  @ReetinEntertainment  I don't think Gutfeld is really that dumb. No one can be that stupid.
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  18684. That's messed up
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  18685. Yes.
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  18686. Except conservatives hate welfare too
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  18687. Just-world fallacy
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  18688. It's called being an other wallet warrior. Their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  18689. politicans don't care to end poverty. The core problem is ideological: they don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
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  18690. A guaranteed income would eliminate poverty overnight. It would cost about $867 billion a year.
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  18691. It could pay its workers $100,000 a year and still have money left over.
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  18692.  @NicoleKisa  Correct.
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  18693. Why are there any restrictions on welfare at all?
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  18694. I'm trying to change my incel life
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  18695. I'm poor
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  18696. Correct.
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  18697. This guy Peter doesn't acknowledge bargaining power.
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  18698. It depends upon the behavior of exotic matter.
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  18699. Yes. Most conservatives lack empathy. It's why they're more individualistic vs liberals who are collectivist.
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  18700. Moral issue
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  18701. Times change.
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  18702. Jesus Christ
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  18703. Evil. It's only $20k in my state
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  18704.  @tarajoyce3598  yes. Republicans keep poverty level too low.
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  18705.  @tarajoyce3598  to ensure welfare recipients stay poor
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  18706. Rich people don't want universal health care.
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  18707.  @WH0oo...  Wow
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  18708. To keep poor people out of higher education
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  18709. I can't see my replies
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  18710. ​ @xwrtk that's messed up
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  18711. ​ @ericeandco oh okay
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  18712.  @jamalwilburn228  that's messed up. Do politicians only want rich people to go to college?
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  18713.  @jamalwilburn228  no education system in any country can ever be perfect (because there is scarcity and different ideologies) but I wonder what do politicians expect poor people like myself to do. I go to community college, but I rely on welfare to survive. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and pay too little. Federal work-study pays $12/hour at 15 hours a week, those are poverty wages as well. In fact, without a degree, federal work-study is only good for getting a minimum wage job anyway. Even with Pell grants I can't afford to live independently or afford healthcare. There are only 428 scholarships for a school of over 70,000 students.
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  18714.  @jamalwilburn228  I don't know how anyone except rich people go to school stress-free
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  18715.  @jamalwilburn228  I know about trade jobs, but the job I desire requires college education. I need/desire to be an Astrophysicist, which requires a bachelor's degree in physics, plus PhD in astrophysics, plus postdoc training. I have no choice but to pursue extensive education. But I'm too poor to do it on my own. I'm getting help. Hopefully I'll get more.
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  18716.  @jamalwilburn228  my replies are GONE AGAIN.
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  18717.  @jamalwilburn228  I basically said I desire to be a physicist which requires a PhD in astrophysics. I need extensive education.
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  18718.  @jamalwilburn228  my replies keep getting deleted. Did you read them?
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  18719.  @jamalwilburn228  I can't reply to you anymore because my replies keep getting deleted
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  18720.  @jamalwilburn228  I need a college education in order to become a Physicist. So college isn't optional for me.
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  18721.  @jamalwilburn228  I keep commenting here and my comments keep getting deleted.
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  18722.  @jamalwilburn228  I need college education in order to become a Physicist.
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  18723.  @jamalwilburn228  can you see my replies?
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  18724.  @vanessacallahan3515  correct.
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  18725. It gives me hope as well.
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  18726. Yep
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  18727. I don't vote at all.
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  18728. Yep
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  18729. Exactly
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  18730. Because they want poor people to do society's dead-end jobs
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  18731. Exactly.
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  18732. Yes.
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  18733.  @MultipleOffenses  yep
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  18734. The problem is there's a power imbalance. If you're a doctor? Yes, you can negotiate your desired salary. If you're a fry cook? No, the salary gets picked for you because you aren't valued anywhere near as much AND can be replaced by someone who will accept such low wages.
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  18735. ​@melissahuntley3755 how about you see the full context: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  18736. Exactly.
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  18737. No
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  18738. Politicians don't want that.
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  18739. Ok
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  18740.  @Xandrosi  poverty serves 13 functions
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  18741. Correct
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  18742. Yes
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  18743. Trump believes poor people don't deserve societal advancement through education. He also hates disabled people because they're unable to work. As a poor person, i CANNOT GET POOR PEOPLE TO MOBILIZE.
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  18744. Ok
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  18745. @shamrock73  our government has spent trillions of dollars on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We can abolish poverty.
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  18746. They oppose policies which reduce poverty.
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  18747. Because they want welfare money to only go to the rich.
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  18748. Because they only want themselves getting welfare
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  18749. No way to enforce that
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  18750. and the fact that many politicians oppose policies that pull people out of poverty.
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  18751. Yes
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  18752. Millions more make a few dollars above minimum wage.
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  18753. I understand.
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  18754. Ok
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  18755. I know. As a cashier at a supermarket I made $10/hr. My "raise" was $0.50. I made $8.50/hr at McDonald's.
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  18756. Background and Struggles: I’m 29 years old and have spent 10 years working towards a bachelor’s degree, but I’ve only completed 27 credits. Over the years, I’ve faced many obstacles, including my mom being sick for six years before passing away in 2023. During that time, I had to rely on welfare and Medicaid, but the system didn’t fully support me, especially when it came to caring for my mom. After she passed away, I lost housing and food stamps, which left me homeless and dependent on my dad for support. Academic Record: I currently have a 1.1 GPA with 89 attempted credits, 27 completed credits, and 15 transferable credits. I’ve been rejected from scholarships, my financial aid appeal was denied, and I couldn’t get work-study because I wasn’t eligible for financial aid. Right now, my grades are failing: I have a 79 in Brief Calculus, a 69 in Accounting, and a 41 in College Physics I. I’m not planning to study for the physics exam tomorrow and expect to fail it, just like I did on the first exam. Harsh Reality: If I don’t get at least Bs or As this semester, I’ll be kicked out of Wake Tech and lose my chance to transfer to NC State. At this point, I don’t feel like continuing school is worth it unless I can afford to do it without struggling financially. I would only continue with my education if I were financially independent. Decision to Quit: I’m seriously considering quitting everything related to my degree and education. I don’t want to continue facing poverty and academic failure. I’ve realized that unless I become financially free, I can’t keep pursuing school. I’m also not interested in becoming a screenwriter or journalist if it means quitting school, and I’d rather focus on finding financial stability through other means.
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  18757. I believe you. I'm a virgin at 28. I'm childish but I've purchased car insurance. Next step is to get my driver's license. Then a job Then own a car Then eat right and exercise. Then ALSO focus on returning to community College on campus.
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  18758. This Friday and Saturday I'll be going to a sports bar and comedy club. I don't want to yell I'm a virgin but I want to get laid.
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  18759. ​ @goatedtothemax1773 yep.
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  18760. ​ @loranoodle I'm changing my life
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  18761. ​ @darkhorse505 yep
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  18762.  @angelinimartini  you make sense. It was just a brutal truth.
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  18763.  @angelinimartini  It sounds like you are working yourself to death.
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  18764.  @angelinimartini  dang that made me cry a little. I'm complaining about working harder when I have no kids or disabilities or mortgage.
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  18765.  @angelinimartini  yes everyone. Nobody except millionaires and billionaires can live debt free in this country. Homes are over $400,000 in my city. Home builders must confuse cashiers with bill gates :(
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  18766.  @angelinimartini  I'll hold out hope. Renting is circular logic, isn't it? You rent in order to save up enough money to buy a home you currently can't afford. But because the rent is so high you can never save up enough money to buy a home, only to pay more rent. But for now I realized I need to increase my skills/have a career to make more money. I've looked into trade jobs, journalism, and screenwriting (the last two are my passions). I'm in North Carolina. If you make less than 20k as a single person you're poor, even groceries are too expensive now. To put this into perspective as to how high inflation is in groceries alone, most supermarkets, including Walmart, in my state make 75 to 78% of sales from food stamps. Me making 50k/yr would be enough for me to get a car and apartment. 80k-100k would be enough to own a house.... As long as the prices don't jump and if the government banned variable rate or ballooning rate mortgages.
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  18767.  @angelinimartini  thank you for all your help! One day I hope to own a car and home. You've given me the help to do that having patience.
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  18768. don't do that because corporations will keep employees part time to avoid providing benefits.
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  18769. Jesus
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  18770. Welfare is restricted to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  18771. Yes
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  18772. Wow
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  18773. Lie by omission
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  18774. Dr. Hossenfelder, would you rather have the ability to collect and study antimatter or cosmic strings?
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  18775. I'm jealous
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  18776. The rich want to keep the poor around.
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  18777. Yep
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  18778. ​ @KevinThomas-ok2ev there aren't enough skilled positions for everyone. And minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  18779.  @KevinThomas-ok2ev  none of those skills increase your wages. The only ones that do are education and responsibility, which minimum wage jobs don't increase. And these minimum wage jobs are career jobs, by definition they have to be because everyone cannot climb the corporate ladder. I don't know how else to say this. Every low wage worker at Walmart or McDonald's will not be made store manager, no matter how hard they try.
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  18780. I just realized that...
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  18781. Companies want to remind workers who's in charge.
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  18782. Correct. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  18783. People can get paid according to the profits they help produce.
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  18784. Wow
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  18785. I deal with in USA. no health insurance, minimum wage pay, unaffordable college, unaffordable housing.
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  18786. ​ @guarmiron5557  wow. He got laid that easily??
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  18787. I have more self-confidence. I'll start working out
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  18788.  @guarmiron5557  that's messed up
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  18789.  @guarmiron5557  wow.
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  18790. ​ @guarmiron5557  I'll try harder to lose my virginity.
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  18791. I'm an incel and I don't believe sex is a right. And really, needs aren't rights either.
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  18792. You have a right to others labor....yes you do.
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  18793. Yep
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  18794. And poor people
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  18795. Idk
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  18796. I'm a virgin still
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  18797. You have a great channel!
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  18798. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  18799. That's fucked up.
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  18800. That's why corporations support immigration.
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  18801. LOL.
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  18802. 1. I can't afford it. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier 2. You can't buy intimacy
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  18803. I'm 29 and still a virgin
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  18804. My life is over
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  18805. You're right. I'm a virgin at 29. It's my fault.
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  18806.  @jimmithedean4433  okay cool. I'm socially stunted and I'll pay for it
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  18807.  @jimmithedean4433  yep
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  18808. How'd you eat making 11 per hour??
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  18809. I made 8.50 an hour.
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  18810.  @markscarborough7580  "entry level." LOL. They are no such thing. And yes build skills....making hamburgers. I didn't know using a cash register qualifies someone to be a doctor or rocket scientist. And college isn't affordable for someone making minimum wage. And most workers make minimum wage or barely above it. Also by your dumb logic then any company that doesn't want to pay its employees a living wage could call the job "entry level" and get away with it.
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  18811.  @markscarborough7580  If it was doable like you claim the working poor would not exist nor would poverty.
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  18812.  @markscarborough7580  Minimum wage workers are already doing the work that allows their company to function. They don't need more skills.
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  18813.  @markscarborough7580  poverty is like women's suffrage: a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  18814.  @markscarborough7580  okay. Keep trolling.
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  18815.  @markscarborough7580  They are already working, they are already doing work...how are you denying that?
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  18816.  @markscarborough7580  And they're doing something important, businesses cannot function without employees. Also how much money these places like Chic Fil A make cashiers can make a $100,000.
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  18817.  @markscarborough7580  I believe if you're working you deserve to make enough money to live. Period. of course if you get more skills you'll get paid more but Start every worker from the baseline that if they are willing to work, and thus contribute to the economy, then he/she deserves a decent life.
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  18818.  @markscarborough7580  but it can work that way though. And why do you believe it shouldn't?
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  18819.  @markscarborough7580  do you believe deserve to vote?
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  18820.  @markscarborough7580  no it wouldn't... High enough demand overcomes almost any obstacles. And if a business can't sustain 15/hr then the business deserves bankruptcy.
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  18821.  @markscarborough7580  You are ignoring the fundamental problem that businesses structure their company around poverty wages. That Is not something to be proud of.
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  18822.  @markscarborough7580  do you believe women deserve to vote?
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  18823.  @markscarborough7580  Women can vote because we believe they deserve to vote. Our society is structured around that simple fact. Wages are the same way. Wages are not like the weather, Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed every worker deserved a living wage then every worker would have one. That's it. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal Market forces, that have allowed poverty wages to persist, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women suffrage is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  18824. Ok
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  18825.  @joeblowe3180  you're right. I could stomach that.
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  18826.  @google_is_a_criminal  yes. The problem with low wages is the corporations who want cheap labor, not poor people.
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  18827. Yep
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  18828. This!!
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  18829.  @Missy-Missy1111  Republicans want to cut welfare in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
    1
  18830. That's ignoring overtime pay of 1.5. With that the maximum income becomes $180,000/yr.
    1
  18831. You can be a manager and still have a day off.... Any manger making less than $30/hr is atrocious.
    1
  18832.  @C..404  yes. At mcds. It was garbage.
    1
  18833. Wow
    1
  18834. Are you serious on that admittance part?
    1
  18835. Sne believes in just-world fallacy
    1
  18836. I'm incel
    1
  18837.  @JT-wc7me  no excuses? I'm a straight man with 0 standards for women.
    1
  18838. It's sad. I'm not incel anymore but still a virgin. So that's growth.
    1
  18839. Wow​ @ianmackenzie212 
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  18840. The reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  18841. They oppose a living wage minimum wage as morals. Conservatives believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  18842. It's a catch 22 isn't it? If you don't take the job you're lazy but if you work the job you're lazy too. It's like America wants people trapped in these jobs all along.
    1
  18843. ​ @martinbojinov8908 because USA politicians don't want poor people to have college education
    1
  18844. If only Mitch mcconnell cared
    1
  18845. Then you're more upset over automation than abolishing poverty.
    1
  18846. ​ @techninja3001 politics is about choosing between one of two things: risk mitigation or opportunity. You have chosen risk mitigation (of automation and unemployment) over existential opportunity (of an emerging workforce devoid of poverty).
    1
  18847. It's called just-world fallacy.
    1
  18848. The real reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  18849. Yes
    1
  18850.  @aprilsites2177  rich people.
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  18851.  @aprilsites2177  which is messed up
    1
  18852.  @d-meth  if you want that to change, then demand to stop the real reason for that: corporations. They are the ones paying millions of people poverty wages and no benefits. They are the ones trapping people in debt. They are the ones providing unaffordable healthcare. They are the ones who desire illegal immigration in order to have cheap labor. The problem isn't poor people.
    1
  18853.  @madison3514  don't listen to them. They believe poor people shouldn't have healthcare. They believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class. I'm on Medicaid for the same reason as you.
    1
  18854. ​ @GrandmaBev64 look up family assistance plan under Nixon. The reason work requirements exist is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  18855. ​ @GoldenSun02 that's why I'm on Medicaid now! I go to community college full time, and schools don't offer health insurance, nor do minimum wage jobs.
    1
  18856. ​ @GrandmaBev64  work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  18857. ​ @Gwynbleidd_117 they believe poor people don't deserve government assistance.
    1
  18858. ​ @d-meth that is the fallacy of relative privation
    1
  18859. ​ @marastar208 many people think poverty is a moral failure.
    1
  18860. ​ @justrosy5 wow
    1
  18861. ​ @mejuliie yep
    1
  18862. ​ @nivision evil
    1
  18863.  @d-meth  the person making less money receiving Medicaid is *in poverty.* That is what should upset you. Not helping the less fortunate, or saying because your situation could be worse that means it can't be better.
    1
  18864. ​ @CourtneyK87 yep
    1
  18865. ​ @armouredashes0 that's messed up
    1
  18866. Because people's anger at welfare isn't about the cost, it's about the fact they believe poor people don't deserve welfare. They feel like they get nothing in return for helping the poor.
    1
  18867. ​ @armouredashes0 that's messed up
    1
  18868. ​ @aprilsites2177 rich people
    1
  18869. ​ @GoldenSun02 epic.
    1
  18870. ​ @AK-jt9gx that's messed up
    1
  18871. ​ @GrandmaBev64 work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  18872. ​@madison3514 because they don't count college as work
    1
  18873. Doesn't matter. Times have changed
    1
  18874. @kayakexcursions5570  unemployment is an acceptable risk. You're saying it's more important to mitigate the risk of unemployment than of abolishing poverty.
    1
  18875.  @mario125ww  can incels get laid
    1
  18876. Yep.
    1
  18877. I'm sorry
    1
  18878. Republicans want power over people to do the dirty work of society.
    1
  18879. In my state, I make $10.50/hr. I'm in poverty. But because I'm past 25, and have no kids or disabilities, I'm ineligible for welfare.
    1
  18880. They tie welfare to work because of Calvinism. Then they make the benefits harder to get even still so they don't have to show the true magnitude of poverty.
    1
  18881. Making $20/hr is doctor money now? Give me a break.
    1
  18882. $16 million
    1
  18883. I cry because he is making billions per year while millions of disabled people live in poverty
    1
  18884. That's evil
    1
  18885. That's messed up
    1
  18886.  @cassady7169  and if you have no skills, then it's difficult. Or of you're in college like me. But can't handle school and a career at once.
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  18887.  @Boris80b  Conservatives love poverty.
    1
  18888. Yes.
    1
  18889. Wtf
    1
  18890. Yep. I was a cashier at a supermarket for a year. They rejected paying me $17/hr. Paid me $10/hr instead. Then their "raise" was $0.50.
    1
  18891. That's messed up.
    1
  18892. Beautiful to hear
    1
  18893. Correct.
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  18894. If poverty was based on COLA there'd be 104 million people in poverty not 45 million.
    1
  18895. That's another way business owners get more profit.
    1
  18896. Correct.
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  18897. Nope
    1
  18898. Trump doesn't want poor people having children
    1
  18899. Yeah it's me.
    1
  18900. It's called survivorship bias.
    1
  18901.  @laurengail9487  so it's a Catch-22?
    1
  18902.  @laurengail9487  I thought the point you are making is that it's under staffed because of low pay but at the same time if you(owner) offer higher pay There'll be enough employees for the store but the store won't be able to remain profitable. Also you are mentioning how skilled workers are forced to take these jobs but still don't get paid more for doing them anyway. So either have not enough employees and they be in poverty or have enough employees but then the store won't open.
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  18903.  @laurengail9487  ah I see.
    1
  18904.  @laurengail9487  Yes Cashiers receive so much disdain from the public. I have even heard a grocery manager himself said he would never pay a mere cashier $12 an hour.
    1
  18905.  @laurengail9487  I think grocery stores pay people low wages because they can, and we as a society simply enable that. I don't want cashiers making $250000 a year but but somewhere in between the 15K they make now and 250k.... There's a medium
    1
  18906. ​ @CMP8992 lol
    1
  18907. Because politicians want poor people to accept minimum wage jobs. And don't want disabled people to be middle class
    1
  18908. In order to afford a college education you need a job that requires a college education. That would be like medical schools only accepting applications from people who have medical degrees.
    1
  18909.  @420JackG  it's employers chasing unicorns so they can justify that potential workers are lazy and pay them less.
    1
  18910.  @420JackG  this country has far too many low paying jobs and too few worker's benefits and rights. It is downright sad.
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  18911. I understand
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  18912. I understand.
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  18913. ​ @magnuscarlsson9969 because the government is trying to push the narrative that poor women don't deserve to have children.
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  18914. ​ @magnuscarlsson9969 republicans believe poor women don't deserve to have children
    1
  18915. Ok
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  18916.  @Issidro  it's all by design. Politicians believe that disabled people are a burden to society and don't deserve to be middle class, let alone upper class.
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  18917. Won't pass because it empowers poor people
    1
  18918. That's messed up
    1
  18919. ​@RevShifty why?
    1
  18920. Correct.
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  18921. That's messed up that Reagan wanted to increase poverty
    1
  18922. ​ @yarpenzigrin1893 not everyone can do that.
    1
  18923. Exactly.
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  18924. It is for poor people
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  18925. Damn.
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  18926. Ok
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  18927. @mistrjt9213  I'm incel reading your comment. You're right... Looks aren't why I'm a virgin at nearly 30. Hell, no woman called me incel either.
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  18928. The conservatives believe only the managers and owners provide value to a business.
    1
  18929. Exactly.
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  18930. slavery is the point. Politicans have no desire to end poverty, because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
    1
  18931.  @duppyduppy01  yep. A guaranteed minimum income for the poor would end poverty but would be opposed by politicians for reasons Republicans hate welfare because 1. They oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  18932. To force poor people to accept slave wages
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  18933. One woman said she made $95,000 a month....selling underwear. I don't know what's more ridiculous, the fact that she can make that much money per month doing that or the fact that she thinks men can easily make the same.
    1
  18934. Ninety five thousand dollars a month.... even some doctors don't make that.
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  18935. Namely. The poor.
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  18936. That's wrong
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  18937.  @MicheleHaikal  because republicans want to force poor people to act a certain way. They believe poor people are a burden for relying on taxpayer support so they want to make welfare, healthcare, education and child care access as difficult and humiliating as possible. And also because they don't actually want poor people becoming middle class through government assistance. And to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  18938.  @MicheleHaikal  I hope my replies weren't deleted. I typed so much
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  18939.  @MicheleHaikal  I typed that republicans oppose welfare because they believe poor people don't deserve government assistance and to force poor people into low wage labor markets.
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  18940.  @MicheleHaikal  my replies keep getting destroyed
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  18941. Wow
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  18942.  @trinleywangmo  yes yes yes
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  18943. I laughed at this but also cried.
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  18944. Smh
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  18945. Fallacy
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  18946. It's a barrier for poor people.
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  18947. Disgusting.
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  18948. Because of equivalent exchange. In the eyes of conservatives the rich receive everything because they provide everything of value. The poor should receive nothing of value(money) because they provide nothing.
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  18949. ​ @Gnashercide yes you are
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  18950. Not enough
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  18951. The point is to get people to work for slave wages
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  18952. It was strangled due to nuclear proliferation concerns.
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  18953.  @DrVort  it is yes. We essentially traded existential opportunity for existential risk mitigation.
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  18954. Wtf
    1
  18955. Yep.
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  18956. Poor people can't afford to run
    1
  18957. Because politicians want poverty
    1
  18958. @ thank you
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  18959. I'm quitting school after this semester
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  18960. ​ @LC-sc3en Conservatives lack empathy. They think suffering builds character, especially in the poor. So what's worse than your comments is the fact my own life wouldn't budge conservatives one bit.
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  18961. ​ @LC-sc3en my replies are gone Do you see them? Read an essay called "functions of poverty" by Herbert gans
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  18962. ​ @LC-sc3en I'm quitting community college after this semester I'll never be able to get an associate degree, let alone go to university and get a bachelor's degree.
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  18963. @lc I'm quitting community college after this semester I'll never be able to get an associate degree, let alone go to university and get a bachelor's degree.
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  18964. You can't buy intimacy.
    1
  18965. Exactly
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  18966. Because politicians oppose giving Money to poor people.
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  18967. Exactly
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  18968. Lol that will keep me sleeping by myself forever.
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  18969. Ironically I think that's why I haven't ever dated even to this day. For the past 7 years I've been a cashier, at several different places, never making even $12 an hour. Now here I am with no license or car or apartment, being completely supported by my parents, and living at home. A meal costs more than what I make per hour, which means if a woman wanted to date me I wouldn't even be able to pay the meal for myself. I literally could not afford a movie ticket for us both.
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  18970. ​ @anonymous.anonymity. ok
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  18971.  @Whole_Leash_It  inflation and wage stagnation have destroyed the American dream
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  18972. Alabama has too much poverty, that's why $15 is "too much" there.
    1
  18973. Exactly.
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  18974. I want that...
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  18975. I make $10.50/hour as a cashier and $900/semester as an intern. I can't live independently and use welfare and charity programs in order to survive
    1
  18976. LOL
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  18977. Beautiful to hear as an incel myself
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  18978. Ok
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  18979. The point of welfare is the trap people in poverty
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  18980. The problem is poverty, which the president helps perpetuates.
    1
  18981. Yes.
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  18982. So he made even more than claims he did. And with just a 4% inflation rate annually, 6 is over $42 today. So accounting for inflation and cost of living, this guy was essentially making $87,000 a year.
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  18983. I agree.
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  18984. They keep workers part-time to avoid this.
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  18985. Correct.
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  18986. Sounds like eugenics to me.
    1
  18987. ​ @benketengu why did Reagan increase it so much?
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  18988. Epic
    1
  18989. One student was awarded $10.1 million of scholarships.
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  18990. Idk why
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  18991. There's socialism for rich people. The Fed pumping trillions into the stock market makes republicans orgasm.
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  18992. Probably stop having their brain cells die off.
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  18993. $30 an hour minimum wage. Cancel all student loan debt. Tuition free public college. Abolish right to work/at will employment. Expand unemployment insurance
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  18994.  @lewiswltrs95  then that's a structural problem that needs to be fixed.
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  18995. Poverty isn't acceptable
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  18996. I've visited one. I've failed.
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  18997. I'm still a virgin.
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  18998. I guess poverty will take a smoke break until the minimum wage reaches 20.
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  18999. @History army productions  well, I got several things to say. I'll be making a video about it. 1. The poverty line is too low. Poor people's campaign says the real number of people in poverty is 140 million, not 38 million. 2. Setting it by county would devastate low-income families who can't afford health insurance/pay for it out of pocket 3. Many jobs don't offer benefits. 4. Corporations don't want to end poverty because they want control. 5. Politicians don't want to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. 6. Many conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage due to morals: they don't believe minimum wage workers deserve a decent life.
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  19000. Limit welfare further
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  19001. ​ @orlandoacosta2631 rofl
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  19002. Poor people don't run for office
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  19003. You can't get through them because neither you nor Kyle understands the REAL reason conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage.
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  19004. The reason they oppose a living wage is because of morals. Republicans believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities, entitled them to earn. If doctors were demanding to make $15 an hour, then those same conservatives would want an $80 an hour minimum wage. Raising minimum wage has nothing to do with the expense and everything to do with status.
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  19005. Exactly.
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  19006. The only job after 50 you can get is minimum wage.
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  19007. Millions make only a few dollars above minimum wage.
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  19008. How about it's the fact that entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Would I sit at home and not work as doctor if I got paid more sitting home? No. Because my job is well paid and respected. Would I sit at home vs be a cashier? YES. BECAUSE THE JOB IS NOT.
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  19009.  @thegame346  there is. Not enough for everyone to be promoted all at once. That's like expecting all city cops to become police chief all at once.
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  19010.  @thegame346  do you truly believe every minimum wage worker can find a better job?
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  19011. ​ @thegame346  ok.
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  19012. Or like me, I received a $0.50 raise.
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  19013. His dad didn't care for him emotionally.
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  19014. Yes
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  19015. Exactly.
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  19016. I'm sexist?
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  19017. ​ @happyangie674 yep.
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  19018. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier at a supermarket at 29. I can't afford a hooker.
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  19019. I'm still a freaking virgin.
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  19020. 1. Reagan ended free college because he believed poor people don't deserve to become middle class.
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  19021.  @plau2007  California CAN make college tuition free. It's about priorities. California has the capability to do it, not the willingness.
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  19022. @plau2007  yes. Priorities.
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  19023. @plau2007  all of politics are policy and moral choices. Murder and rape are unacceptable to most people. Depriving people of education is not.
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  19024.  @plau2007  ok.
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  19025. ​ @blatantanarchist  it's a moral issue to him: he thinks minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
    1
  19026. Exactly.
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  19027. There's a separate issue with that: workers are kept part-time to avoid being eligible for benefits. When I was a cashier at a supermarket, I worked 28 hours a week because working 32 entitled me to health insurance.
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  19028. @5353Jumper  yes. Each supermarket made $9 million yearly, my assistant manager said "Noone wants to work" to a customer. I said "not for $10.50/hr and no benefits."
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  19029. @5353Jumper  last spring, I was in poverty despite doing school, work, and internship all at once. How does that make you feel? 1. Community colleges don't offer health care. 4 year universities do, but only if you pursue a degree full-time, and you still need a loan to afford it. 2. I told you about my minimum wage job already 3. My internship paid me $900/semester, I was taxed on top of that. But since I worked less than 30 hours a week, I was ineligible for health insurance under Obamacare. 4. I'm "able-bodied," in NC: past 25 years old with no kids or disabilities. So I can't receive welfare anyway, no Medicaid for me.
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  19030. Because politicians want poverty as does the rich.
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  19031. Yep.
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  19032. Minimum wage was still unlivable.
    1
  19033. Because it would give workers too much bargaining power to reject minimum wage jobs.
    1
  19034. ​ Fenwick Chick  yep
    1
  19035. And food insecurity and homelessness
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  19036.  @richardsawicki8521  beautiful
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  19037. So basically after the 1970s all of the middle-class Union manufacturing jobs disappeared and were replaced with service-based minimum-wage jobs.
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  19038. what is wrong with that? @danielmankinde1706 
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  19039. Why is that wrong?​ @danielmankinde1706 
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  19040. Yes​ @danielmankinde1706 
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  19041.  @bobbun4369  it's both.
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  19042.  @bobbun4369  there's no way to quantify the individual contribution any one worker makes towards the financial performance of a company.
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  19043. Yep
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  19044. Wow
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  19045. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier, with zero benefits or chance for advancement.
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  19046. That's ironic and messed up.
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  19047. So really this is just to still guarantee employers have more power than employees?
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  19048. I agree
    1
  19049. I can't get food stamps as a student because I'm required to work thirty hours a week, with school not being counted as work. If it wasn't for my dad, I wouldn't have any food to eat.
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  19050. No
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  19051.  @RicoBeenSuave1  poverty is a nationwide issue. The federal government needs to establish being deprived of a living wage is unacceptable, no matter what state you are in.
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  19052.  @RicoBeenSuave1  the living wage law can be a guideline. This has nothing to do with liberals vs conservatives, this is much deeper than that ideologically. This is about if we believe a living wage is as essential to society as voting or religious freedom is
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  19053. I call it opposing social insurance. Conservatives oppose, morally, the fortunate, helping the misfortunate. They think it's wrong for poor people to get for free(health care, food, etc.) what hard-working people(business owners and the rich)get through hard work.
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  19054. Beautiful
    1
  19055.  @Doc110-fwg  exactly
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  19056.  @jamesnadell1998  agree with what?
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  19057.  @mharro88  priorities
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  19058.  @Antonio-69-420  exactly. Because what people can't stomach is that poverty is NOT a choice. They also can't stomach the fact they can't truly ban poor people from welfare, healthcare, education, marriage, and abortion. Would middle class people really vote en masse to ban poor people from reproduction, fornication, etc?
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  19059. Except that's the point to keep people trapped on the welfare or debt.
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  19060. Laziness isn't exclusive to poor people, nor is drug addiction.
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  19061. People can be at the bottom as long as they don't lack resources.
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  19062. You support LWOP for corruption?
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  19063. You're proving her point: poverty serves as a function to ensure society's dirty work gets done
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  19064. I don't think biden can raise wages for restaurant workers.
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  19065. He makes more than 96% of the country... But he opposes the poor making $15/hr.
    1
  19066. Wow
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  19067.  @kk-wh3hb  so you agree or disagree with me?
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  19068. Not everyone can go to college or climb the corporate ladder. Poor people have ambition. Your opposition to a living wage is moral: you believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money.
    1
  19069. Yep.
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  19070. Wow....
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  19071. Conservatives think unskilled workers deserve poverty.
    1
  19072. Exactly
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  19073. ​ @rpgmomma8404 that's messed up
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  19074. The government serving the rich.
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  19075. Correct.
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  19076.  @Rowsy91  if the work pays nothing then rejecting the job is acceptable.
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  19077.  @Rowsy91  yes. If the employment is offering slave wages.
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  19078.  @Rowsy91  if the job pays $11/hr? Yeah rejecting the job is acceptable. If the job pays $78/hr? Yeah take that job.
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  19079. It's called just world fallacy.
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  19080. Because women can get laid if they wanted to where as incels cannot. Women only get rejected in dating.
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  19081. @ApplesWithPeanutButter that too.
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  19082. Because the American economy runs on poverty.
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  19083. Because politicians are presented with a very simple choice: you can have worker solidarity exist, or you can have poverty, but you can not have both. The truth of our political values lies in risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our politicians refuse to allow.
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  19084. Wow
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  19085. It's disgusting.
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  19086.  @penguin12902  he's like most Republicans. He doesn't believe cashiers are valuable. If a doctor or engineer was asking for the same thing then he wouldn't be complaining
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  19087. If unskilled workers were paid based on the money they helped produce they'd make around $100,000 a year.
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  19088. The irony in your argument is lost on you. The business owner automated jobs by creating more and more minimum wage jobs which did lead to more efficiency and that's more money for the company overall but less money for the employee.
    1
  19089.  @hardlikejard5854  there are monopsonies....
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  19090. He only wants rich people to have kids.
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  19091. LOL.
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  19092. That's messed up.
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  19093. Yes. I want to lose my virginity.
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  19094. Dang.
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  19095. if they're poor.
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  19096. ​ @christopherbohanan4453 exactly
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  19097. That's what liberals don't understand about conservatives in the minimum wage debate. Many Conservatives believe skills determine the economic and moral worth of a person, because they judge people by "how hard they work." If McDonald's workers make $100k a year, that WOULD be opposed by the right
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  19098. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
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  19099.  @MacLaw3084  I'll give you a cliff notes version and Context: The author outlinex that poverty persists because it is by design. rich people create and sustain poverty to force poor people to do jobs rich and skilled people would never do themselves. no billionaire or doctor would ever accept minimum wage jobs, thus the rich and powerful have a vested interest in ensuring everyone cannot obtain wealth and skills.
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  19100.  @MacLaw3084  okay thank you.
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  19101.  @MacLaw3084  my replies are gone
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  19102. Many conservatives believe that minimum wage workers don't deserve a living wage
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  19103. It's not about economics it's about morals. Many conservatives believe that their ethical code says it's morally wrong to pay people more money than their low Level abilities entitled them to earn.
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  19104. $400/year tuition to $10,000/year
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  19105. @blipco5  I suspect the real reason that American politicians don't implement a living wage minimum wage, robust welfare programs, or a universal basic income is not the costs but the benefits. Workers like myself would have the power that doctors do: to reject dead-end job offers like minimum wage.
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  19106.  @blipco5  nice.
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  19107. My point to politicians is that you have rich people. And poor people like myself: minimum wage jobs by themselves offer no way out of poverty.
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  19108. My plan is to find a full ride scholarship and finish getting my college degree.
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  19109. @blipco5  USA. I'm in...a hole that I dug myself into. The only way out is to get a grant or scholarship for college. I desire to be an astrophysicist more than anything. Only 5 things I desire 1. Astrophysicist 2. Be a screenwriter 3. Have independence 4. Be physically fit 5. The 5th thing is silly.
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  19110.  @blipco5  I got the intelligence. I'm a wizard at physics and math.
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  19111.  @blipco5  thank you. I won't give up hope.
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  19112. Gotta have a slave under class
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  19113. ​ @votered1552 not everyone can do that.
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  19114. The wages are also capped. They forgot to mention that. Managers at McDonald's can't make more than $9.
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  19115. They'd cry.
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  19116. I'm an incel virgin. Although, I get sad from being lonely.
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  19117. Shocker!
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  19118. You're right. I'm incel virgin at 29. I don't socialize
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  19119.  @edwardgiovannelli5191  Yep.
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  19120. The way theoretical astrophysics is setup is messed up. First off once you get your PhD you have to go into a bunch of short-term positions. You aren't guaranteed a professorship. 2nd off There are far more physics graduates than physics faculty positions.
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  19121.  @imnotmike  that's a policy choice that can be enacted. And the poor people's campaign has recalculated the poverty measure based on inflation, which states the number of low income people is half the country. I'd say any corporation which exists cannot have a single employee eligible for welfare.
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  19122. ​@your friendly neighbourhood disappointment exactly.
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  19123. Conservatives believe only rich people and business owners are hard working.
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  19124. ​ @wilberwhateley7569 exactly.
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  19125. The real reasons republicans hate welfare are two fold 1. Republicans oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  19126. I'm poor and can't access all welfare.
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  19127.  @Magazine_stitcher  wow
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  19128.  @CareyBilley  I don't hate women I just...I find myself abnormal.
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  19129. @user-rp1st3nk8y  beautiful to hear. I'm still a virgin, but I believe I'm important. I just have to put in the work to change. 2014-2015 I went to and flunked out of community college 2016-2020: dropped out and worked as a cashier 2021: was a NEET 2022: returned to community college part-time, got into a physics internship, won a screenwriting competition. Won a few grants for college Spring 2023: got into and took a class at a 4 year university. Did a 2nd internship. Worked as a cashier. Volunteered. Helped take care of my sick mom.
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  19130.  @CareyBilley  now I'm applying to scholarships and grants, finishing the math work, and getting a job(not minimum wage, maybe reporting) so I can get my driver's license and car. I messed up, not trying to date, have sex, but I believe I'm changing my life around. That has to count for something.
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  19131. @user-rp1st3nk8y  thank you. I will get out into the world and become a better man. But, I also want to lose my virginity. Before you ask, I won't use a prostitute because the affection isn't genuine. You can't buy respect or love. Even in one-night stands, the woman finds the man attractive a little bit. With an escort...there's....nothing. She doesn't like me.
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  19132.  @CareyBilley  do I seem like an incel to you?
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  19133.  @CareyBilley  women have stronger emotions than men. I believe mothers love their children more deeply than their fathers.
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  19134.  @CareyBilley  I don't feel like an incel anymore. I'm not one. It's just scary accepting that it's my fault I've never been with any woman (or kissed or dated). Owning my mistakes is scary. And admitting I'm a virgin past 26 is scary.
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  19135. @mr.m6038  Grants. Last spring I took a UNCW course whose tuition was $2,782.30 I had a grant that covered the cost(and of the book as well). I desire to be a physicist even more so than getting laid. So I keep applying to grants.
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  19136.  @Lion_King_143  that makes more sense. A $4,000 car for cash vs crazy expensive new cars
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  19137. Yes
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  19138.  @josue.ortega  yep
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  19139. It's called the fallacy of relative privation
    1
  19140. Exactly.
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  19141. No they won't because rich people make enough to not work and receive welfare and still work.
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  19142.  @stupid.caillou  yep.
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  19143. Loopholes
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  19144. That's freaking monstrous
    1
  19145. Wow
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  19146. Yes
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  19147. ​ @1987BillyBob No
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  19148. Because meritocracy Is a myth
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  19149. Yep
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  19150.  @lovejunkie490  I...bring nothing to the table. I'm 29. I don't have a bachelor's degree. I have no independence, no job skills, no income, and no hobbies.
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  19151.  @lovejunkie490  I like watching movies, anime, reading, and playing video games. Lately I'm trying to go out more(sports bars, comedy clubs).
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  19152.  @lovejunkie490 I've been called a loser
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  19153. So then it's my fault I'm a kissless virgin at 29.
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  19154. ​@chuckrobinson599 you're right. I first had too high standards(I put on my dating profile a woman must make $400,000/year when I made minimum wage) Then I was too scared. Now I'm too lazy. And it doesn't help that I have no car, apartment, or career either. No. I'm not a NEET. but I am poor.
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  19155. You're cruel
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  19156. Conservatives oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle-class.
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  19157. Conservatives don't want poor people receiving that much help
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  19158. I agree. The problem is politicians know this...they just don't care.
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  19159. ​ @ConradNeill ok
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  19160. You don't have to...
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  19161. That's the point, to keep poverty going.
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  19162. they believe poor people deserve less money to be motivated to work harder
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  19163. $0.25? That's LITERAL pennies.
    1
  19164. Exactly
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  19165. It's about priorities.
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  19166. @burningsnow9870  that's what I'm saying. We can spend trillions of dollars on tax cuts, health insurance subsidies, Corona virus relief, and wars. Politicians can abolish poverty with the swipe of a pen unanimously. But like you said, poverty is used to control workers. You actually brought up the real political problem with welfare: Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. After all, if you had $21 million, would you be a janitor? Would you accept making even $80k/year knowing you still couldn't pay your bills?
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  19167. "Hunger is relative."
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  19168. To transfer the burden of taking care of disabled people from the government to the spouse
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  19169.  @tazmanian1033  my replies are deleted but I know I will lose my vcard before thirty. I'm a decent man.
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  19170.  @tazmanian1033  thanks. I'll stay strong. I made a few videos on my channel on escaping incel.
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  19171. ​ @tazmanian1033 I'm still a virgin
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  19172. Ok I'll wake up
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  19173. LOL WHY?!
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  19174. So even getting a scholarship is hard.
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  19175. That's depressing.
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  19176.  @mayalunics4740  I'm sorry I identified as incel.
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  19177. I made $8.50/hour as a cashier at McDonald's.
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  19178. I only have a few months left before I become a virgin at 30.
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  19179. Lol​ @LittleFly75 
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  19180. Inflation is an acceptable risk to empowering workers
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  19181. The government knows it's just they don't care. Republicans believe these jobs are worthless and other jobs are priceless.
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  19182.  @jonsturgill8868  never. Look at the opposition to student loan forgiveness.
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  19183.  @jonsturgill8868  my replies are gone.
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  19184.  @jonsturgill8868  my replies are gone
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  19185. Jimmy Dore: The real reason many conservatives hate a living wage is simple: Their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn. Conservatives simply believe poor people don't deserve to make all that money.
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  19186. Yep.
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  19187. ​ @Ephebo-ds9nq  you still can't buy intimacy
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  19188. Yep
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  19189. Just world fallacy
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  19190. They know, they just don't want universal healthcare.
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  19191. 100% can confirm this.
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  19192. I agree but Republicans want welfare restricted to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  19193. Exactly ​ @coolioso808 
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  19194. ​ @coolioso808 star trek?
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  19195. ​ @laikanbarth exactly
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  19196.  @newrainbow-or6nq  how do you do that when religion and politics are intertwined? Ideology fuels politics.
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  19197.  @rosemariemerritt5035  my replies ARE DELETED
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  19198.  @ashamed2Byt  Republicans want poverty
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  19199.  @lazer2521  exactly. It's messed up. And it's all to create class division and lock people out of education that these religious people deem inferior- money, disabled, intellect. God would be ashamed.
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  19200.  @tjackson4824  yes it is.
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  19201.  @tjackson4824  what's worse is since I'm poor myself I can't afford to run for office
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  19202. No, because corporations want cheap labor.
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  19203. Yes.
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  19204. How is that entitled?
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  19205. Because low skilled manufacturing jobs were replaced with entry level service jobs
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  19206. I'M DIFFERENT I SWEAR
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  19207.  @Lynsey17  Pretty much.
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  19208. Productivity is based on factors other than hard work. Market concentrations, technological innovations, etc have created higher wages for certain workers and lower wages for others.
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  19209. ​ @mirandaladlad9429  those are both the same thing.
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  19210. Those single moms would need $35 at least, not even counting the cost of healthcare.
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  19211. ​ @donel532  exactly.
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  19212. That was hurtful to read as an incel myself. But you are right, it has been my bitterness and hatred that's been holding me back. Now I'm neither, but still a virgin. I'm trying to figure out how to fix my celibacy.
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  19213.  @lisamackenzie9681  Beautiful and inspiring to hear
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  19214. Poor people can't do anything
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  19215. Yep.
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  19216. Because politicians want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  19217. Ok
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  19218. it still holds true yes. there are roughly 70 million hourly workers. most jobs are hourly, low paying, and part time. the reason they're part time is because if these jobs become fulltime employers would be forced to provide benefits.
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  19219. Then you prefer risk mitigation of unemployment and inflation than empowering workers.
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  19220. They believe poor people don't deserve reproductive rights
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  19221. Yep.
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  19222. Because I desire intimacy.
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  19223. That is correct.
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  19224. I work hard as a cashier, but I still make $10.50/hr after seven years😮
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  19225. People are forced to take on student loans. I'm fine with car debt forgiveness
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  19226. But corporations don't do this I didn't even make $17/he as a cashier.
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  19227. Thank you for sharing your story
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  19228. He appealed to me because I want to be able to have sex, like him. I'm a virgin at nearly 30 years old.
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  19229. I desire to lose my vcard
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  19230. 1. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature of gravity. 2. Politicians and the rich believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing. 3. Conservatives refuse to acknowledge systemic problems because it implies meritocracy is a sham.
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  19231.  @rickyayy  you would be correct, yes.
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  19232.  @rickyayy  I make $46/day because I only work 28 hours a week. If I worked 32 hours, I'd receive health insurance.
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  19233.  @razorswc  yep.
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  19234.  @jason4275  yep
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  19235.  @jason4275  yes. 100%
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  19236.  @bwofficial1776  experience is not a skill. Being a cashier for any amount of time, no matter how long, never increases your pay. A $0.50 raise can't even pay to go to the movies. Be mad at corporations who want pay millions of people poverty wages.
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  19237.  @NicksDynasty  ok
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  19238. ​ @VLuee exactly
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  19239. YOU NAILED IT.
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  19240. I agree
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  19241.  @waltergrace565  my state has 21% of its population in poverty.
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  19242.  @waltergrace565  no... Corporations and billionaires claim they make too little.
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  19243.  @waltergrace565  do you think poverty can end?
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  19244.  @masterchief9291  correct. Most Americans buy into the myth of meritocracy.
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  19245.  @waltergrace565  1. Yes poverty is relative. But it's a policy choice in the USA. I don't want doctors and cashiers making the same but I don't want cashiers working for $7.25 an hour. 2. What makes you think there can be a meritocracy? What do you define as a meritocracy?
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  19246.  @waltergrace565  okay I see your point. Our politicians support a stagnant minimum wage, outrageous college costs, and other financial burdens. I think part of it is simply they do not care. They don't care about things that don't harm them directly.
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  19247. Yep.
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  19248. Wow
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  19249. ​@Adam Edison yep.
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  19250. Right. Because no billionaire or doctor accepts minimum wage jobs
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  19251. ​ @NkenKenY if the government grant pays more than work, there is no purpose to working. You cannot pay for healthcare out of pocket working a minimum wage job, thus making having Medicaid the logical option.
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  19252. ​ @NkenKenY so politicians want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs, since welfare pays more than work,with work requirements
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  19253. correct.
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  19254. I wish I could interview you for 2 hours and hear you rant.
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  19255. Republicans in red states refuse to raise poverty threshold because it would decrease the federal subsidies each state receives. I'm in NC, Medicaid expansion caused me to lose my premium tax credit for private insurance, now on medicaid, most doctors don't take Medicaid and appointments take too long.
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  19256. If you include time and debt then 80% of Americans are poor.
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  19257. I need to stop being lazy
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  19258. That's why you were salary.
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  19259. Way more. Chic fil a could pay cashiers $100,000/yr.
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  19260. The real reason Republicans oppose UBI is because it empowers poor people more so than doctors, and without working. It's an expansion of welfare. Since the income grants of welfare and UBI pay more than minimum wage jobs, poor people have no incentive to work them. It's no different than expecting doctors or billionaires to willingly work minimum wage jobs. So Republicans fight against welfare and UBI.
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  19261. Yep
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  19262.  @june-cz1cw  why?
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  19263. @fritzforsthoefel8031  what's wrong with a fast food worker and doctor making the same?
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  19264.  @fritzforsthoefel8031  actors require no education, yet they make millions of dollars and Noone complains about that.
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  19265.  @fritzforsthoefel8031  so it's a moral issue to you then.
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  19266.  @fritzforsthoefel8031  because cashiers require no education as well, or training, like actors, but actors are seen as rapists like cashiers are. It makes no sense.
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  19267. ​ @fritzforsthoefel8031 people look down on cashiers and believe they deserve poverty. It's a moral issue to you, not economic
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  19268.  @dafttool  no. I think I'll keep hating USA.
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  19269. ​ @susanng4040 that's evil
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  19270. It'd be based on the sector.
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  19271.  @joeblow-k1v  food stamps are not handouts The problem is corporations, not the poor. The rich who lead corporations pay people so little that people need food stamps in the first place. If corporations stopped desiring to depress wages, this problem would go away, as would alot of inflation.
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  19272.  @joeblow-k1v  the only way to ensure people don't need food stamps is to make it possible and practical for the poor to raise a family on a minimum wage job. And inflation by your own admission is based on corporations wanting more and more from others, when they're already rich.
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  19273.  @joeblow-k1v  and to ensure Pell grants covered cost of food.
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  19274. Yes. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  19275. Correct.
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  19276. I'm going to community college now, it's stressful because without a car, it takes too long to travel to and from campus. I'm on welfare because cc don't cover living expenses
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  19277. I want to lose my vcard
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  19278. @MikeHawk-v1s  money.
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  19279. Exactly
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  19280. Someone told me food service is a poor career path
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  19281. Republicans believe in Calvinism. That is their true agenda.
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  19282. Wow
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  19283. The problem with ubi is it gives workers too much bargaining power.
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  19284. I want to stop being incel.
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  19285.  @TheInsaneupsdriver  he's an other wallet warrior.
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  19286.  @90kevin20  my minimum wage job would have to pay me $78/hr to be able to afford college education alone now, and just the tuition at that.
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  19287. Inflation is an acceptable risk towards this
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  19288.  @Etheoma  it's still a risk
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  19289.  @Etheoma  I'm saying the truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. Inflation is a real risk ,but it's unavoidable when it comes to reducing poverty.
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  19290. Right? Minimum wage should be $42 an hour.
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  19291.  @bloodrainicorn6193  my replies are deleted. As usual.
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  19292. Yep
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  19293. Ok
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  19294. Yep.
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  19295. Yep. Exactly.
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  19296. ​ @lochnessmunster1189  Public assistance: medicaid. Food stamps. Section 8 housing. WIC. TANF.
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  19297.  @lochnessmunster1189  I'm telling you what public assistance is in the USA for poor people
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  19298. ​ @lochnessmunster1189 because I wanted to
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  19299. House. 2 cars. Healthcare. Retirement. College. Family of 4.
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  19300. And not everyone can.
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  19301.  @Cthulhu013  that's messed up.
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  19302. Ok
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  19303. Exactly.
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  19304. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  19305. It's called survivorship bias.
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  19306. Most poor people already work. And having a job doesn't guarantee health insurance.​@capt.america6296
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  19307. ​ @2surprisedoctopi yep
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  19308. ​ @curtisgoss2669 it's sad
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  19309. $50 and you could barely raise a family
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  19310. @i_like_beer-o2f  that's by design
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  19311.  @justsomeguy6336  so? Nothing is free. All change has a price. I gain nothing from being happy about letting poor people die from not having healthcare.
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  19312.  @justsomeguy6336  I'm pretty sure i told you twice that everything has a price. And worrying about the cost is the wrong question to ask, you should be worrying about the benefits. The fact you worry about the cost is alarming.
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  19313.  @MomoMilne  priorities.
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  19314. Considering that the government provides money to these workers in the form of food stamps and medicaid, I say the government is footing the tab for these employers paying poverty wages already.
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  19315. No..
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  19316. Millions more are in poverty.
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  19317.  @mrhpu0711  I know he isn't a dictator/has infinite power.
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  19318.  @mrhpu0711  the problem with free college, is that well it's just the lack of money simply put. Most State governments are not allowed to have a deficit.. In the 40s through 70s when College literally was only a few hundred dollars a semester the federal government stepped in and paid over 80% of college tuition. From the seventies onward however, the fed gov slashed per student funding. And around this same time Healthcare prices started to Skyrocket, especially Medicaid. So, colleges had to make up for the less federal government money, and state governments couldn't pick up the slack(tuition) because the states spent far more on Healthcare, so College tuition skyrocketed.
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  19319.  @mrhpu0711  biden has to try. And no one person can change the government on their own. There are lots of checks and balances.
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  19320. It's already since you can't live off of it
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  19321.  @simbotist  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone in a minimum wage job can be promoted. You want these workers in poverty. Also, I'm in community college now. My plan is to complete a bachelor's of science/physics degree transfer plan. While I'm doing that, I'm working for scholarships and grants.
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  19322. Republicans believe poor people don't deserve societal advancement
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  19323.  @bluehotdog2610  you need a degree from community College and not everyone wants to do a trade.
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  19324. Lol. So they get paid monopoly money? It IS a real job.
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  19325. Because conservatives believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  19326.  @gorkyd7912  that's my point... Blame corporations that want cheap labor, support politicians who penalize corporations.
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  19327. ​ @onomatopoeia162003 ok
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  19328. What you're arguing for is for some people to live in poverty.
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  19329. Inflation is an acceptable risk.
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  19330. I'm poor
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  19331. Yep
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  19332. You can't eliminate money or greed
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  19333.  @ComradeCatpurrnicus  how? If money is needed to fund everything?
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  19334.  @abigailhubbard1055  yes. You're correct.
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  19335. Yep
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  19336. Not true.
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  19337. Yes
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  19338. Politicians complain about poverty but keep the minimum wage at $7.25/hr
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  19339. There are 30 million open trade jobs you can get.
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  19340. Correct
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  19341. But I want to lose my virginity. I'm 29 years old. Many people have more sex than me
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  19342. Yes
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  19343. Yes
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  19344. Not enough positions for everyone to be promoted.
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  19345. Sounds like just world fallacy to me.
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  19346. Policies can change. You know that right? Yes. Get an education when college Is $50,000+ a year. Get a trade when even trade school is $18,000+. Companies do not train high school graduates en masse enough to wipe out poverty.
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  19347. They can. They're greedy
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  19348. Exactly
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  19349.  @jonredcorn862  most jobs that require only a high school diploma are at or neat minimum wage. I make $10 an hour as a cashier because no job that pays $30/hr accepts people with no college degree.
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  19350. Lol
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  19351. ​ @desertgirl1392 be quiet
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  19352. I'd lie too if I made $9 million/year.
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  19353.  @mseka9148  you're right...
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  19354.  @mseka9148  that's even worse.
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  19355. Wow.
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  19356. Lol, it did already.
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  19357. What you aren't seeing is conservatives want Minimum wage workers in poverty
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  19358. Yes
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  19359. ​ @evelynsaungikar3553  exactly
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  19360. You misunderstand something. The real reason that right wingers oppose a living wage minimum wage is because they believe that minimum wage workers don't deserve to make that much money. It has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status.
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  19361.  @ronpetersen2317  you're right... I have to move on and not remain in this job forever.
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  19362.  @ronpetersen2317  I just wanted the easy life, but life hasn't been so easy for me.
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  19363. @Mighty Moose  What? I'm saying only rich people can afford tuition out of pocket. I'm not saying only rich people should go to college. I'm also saying the ideal situation is to not work while in college since college requires a lot of time and energy.
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  19364. ​ @deconstructingnarcissism3062 ok
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  19365. You're right. I can't expect women to take my virginity just because I want them to. I must work for affection.
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  19366. The real reason conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage is because they believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors demanded $15/hr the same conservatives opposing raising the minimum wage now would pass an $80/hr minimum wage then.
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  19367.  @michelled.4874  I agree with you. I'll rephrase it, no one should be poor. Period.
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  19368.  @michelled.4874  I myself am in poverty. I'm a cashier, college student, and intern at 28. I don't know how it is in other states but in my state of North Carolina, the Republican controlled legislative body cut off all welfare at the age of 25, if you have no kids or disabilities, no matter how low your income is. Their reasoning being it was "too expensive" but the real reason being that they didn't believe poor people deserved the help. So when I turned 25, I lost Medicaid, and couldn't get food stamps or section 8 housing or anything even though I made $10.50 an hour and couldn't afford it. I'm lucky that I've had my parents to support me, and I'm lucky to have no kids / disabilities when I'm not capable of dealing with either currently. But I don't believe that means I deserve to be in poverty because I'm "just" a cashier. My disabled brother receives financial assistance from the government. Enough for him to survive yes, but not enough for him to live independently or pursue college or home ownership.
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  19369.  @michelled.4874  I believe most conservatives hate poor people because they believe in just world fallacy. And if they are religious, I'm going to say they believe in Calvinism as well. In a conservative person's eyes like Ben Shapiro, anyone can become anything through effort alone. Luck doesn't exist to him. The system has no problems. They don't see society as is, they see society as some dream world where everything always works out perfectly. Where effort is always rewarded and laziness is always punished.
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  19370. Because bill maher like most rich people and politicians believe in just-world fallacy.
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  19371. No. The politicians are. Poor people such as myself are not
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  19372. They understand, it's just that they feed off of the suffering of others.
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  19373. Wow
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  19374. Ironically there was a $4.25/hr minimum wage proposal in Florida.
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  19375. What would republicans look like?
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  19376.  @niclas3672  thanks for the info. Side note: I believe scarcity is one of the main limiting factors in every country(preventing any "ideal" society).
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  19377.  @niclas3672  yes scarcity of resources. Resource allocation Create a conflict and makes politics difficult.
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  19378. There is a policy decision that can end it. A guaranteed income.
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  19379. The problem is morally, the real reason conservatives hate a living wage is that they believe poor people don't deserve a living wage.
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  19380. Beautiful
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  19381. Interesting
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  19382. What conservatives are not saying out loud is that they don't believe unskilled workers deserve to live like that.
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  19383. That's a moral issue to you.
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  19384. ​ @timchamberlin9280 LOL exactly.
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  19385. @robwagner7093  but this is about priorities. If congress thought student loans were unacceptable, they'd do something about it.
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  19386. Wow
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  19387. On one hand these idiots don't want to raise the minimum wage and on the other hand they don't want to have welfare either.
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  19388. Because people believe in Calvinism. They view poor people as moral failures
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  19389. ​ @KaleidoscopicPalindrome  you believe in just-world fallacy.
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  19390. LOL.
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  19391. They DO realize it. Republicans don't care because they aren't poor themselves!
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  19392. You are correct.
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  19393. Corporations support immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who can't afford to argue and will work hard for very low rates of pay.
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  19394. Wow
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  19395. Correct. Or a Cube.
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  19396. Teenagers don't deserve poverty either
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  19397. That's a literal paradox.
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  19398. No conservative wants to admit success is a mixture of effort and reward. We don't want to admit this because effort is within your control whereas reward is not. Two people can put in the same effort but not receive the same reward. Admitting this makes success a lottery and not meritocracy.
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  19399. ​ @firstpostcommenter8078 then it isn't universal. So yes, more UBI for more kids.
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  19400. $40k per person. So a family of six, five kids, one parent, would have a UBI of $240,000.
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  19401. You're a troll.
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  19402. I'm an incel.
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  19403. Yep
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  19404. I talked about this
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  19405. 140 million people are in poverty. It's 44% of the population.
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  19406. Holy crap.
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  19407.  @romiljoshi5687  Not true.
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  19408.  Sky Gardener  correct. I've used dating apps for years to no avail.
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  19409.  @highpriestofgavinalmightyh1304  I think I'm getting shadow banned because I don't see my replies.
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  19410.  @highpriestofgavinalmightyh1304  yep. I can't see my replies. Hopefully you read them. My point is the real opposition to a living wage minimum wage is a moral one: many people, particularly conservatives, think poor people don't deserve to make all that money. As for your complaints, all priorities are not created equal. Society is neither capable nor willing to solve all problems at once. Inflation is terrible, so is unemployment, but...so is working and being in poverty. If poverty was truly unacceptable, then inflation and unemployment being magnified as a result of wage increases would be deemed acceptable. Being unwilling to pay these prices means you don't find poverty unacceptable.
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  19411. And?
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  19412. How?
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  19413. Yep
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  19414. ​ @bobcobb7992 poor people have the right to have children
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  19415. ​ @DarkFlamesDarkness yep
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  19416. ​ @katieandnick4113 exactly
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  19417. If it's not meant to support a family? You do realize designs can change, right? Just because it wasn't been meant to support a family before doesn't mean it can't support one now.
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  19418. There are millions of people working for minimum wage that are neither teenagers nor people just entering the workforce. Minimum wage workers receive raises? An "entry-level" wage never increases no matter how long someone has been employed there, unless you consider a 5 to 50 cent raise enough to live on.
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  19419. I've been a cashier for seven years, no upwards mobility exists for this job.
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  19420.  @1958PonyBoy  so you are admitting being a cashier is a dead-end job.
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  19421.  @1958PonyBoy  there are plenty of trade jobs I could get even right (at 28) now if I desired(nuclear engineer,electrical engineer, power plant operator, etc.). There are 12 million+ scholarships totaling $48 billion, and $692 billion worth of yearly college endowments(which can fund student scholarships as well), so there is no shortage of money or scholarships out there for me to get to be able afford 2 years of college. Hell, even a full ride. Hell, $4.8 million would allow me to get a PhD 2 or 3 times over. I don't need a college degree to pursue journalism or screenwriting.
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  19422.  @1958PonyBoy  I guess your point is I need to acquire more education or responsibility to be worthy of a higher wage, not just get paid for existing.
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  19423.  @1958PonyBoy  the first 3 were after I dropped out of community college. The 2nd two was me becoming comfortable living at home/dependent on family/almost giving up on life. The final two years(to present day) I returned to school and enrolled part-time. I kind of had a wake up call that I needed to work much harder to become independent in life/not poor. Otherwise, seven years from now, my life will be the same as it is now.
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  19424.  @1958PonyBoy  I pursued screenwriting temporarily a year ago, I won a few screenwriting competitions even.
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  19425. Most poor people already work. You don't need to force poor people to work to escape poverty- it's poverty. Noone wants to experience it.
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  19426. Correct.
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  19427. Disgusting.
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  19428. Yep
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  19429. I want to become a Physicist so I can invent warp drive and solve dark matter.
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  19430. Inflation is an acceptable risk
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  19431. A federal minimum wage would be the baseline, plus states haven't raised the minimum wage on their own.
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  19432. I don't consider myself bad looking but I don't have or have never had a girlfriend and I'm 28. And a male. I feel hopeless.
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  19433.  @RhettMueller864  hello
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  19434. Yep​ @littlefurrow2437 
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  19435. Exactly. The reason Republicans hate welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  19436. The exorbitant price of college is a systemic problem.
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  19437. I'm an incel. I read that twice. You hurt my feelings. I'm 29. A kissless virgin. I'm broke and living at home. I don't socialize with women. I just want to lose my virginity but you are saying I cannot demand sex from women.
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  19438. I'm improving but I'm still a virgin
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  19439.  @HandthatRockstWorld  okay. I will do that.
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  19440. Yep
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  19441. 1. The system is the problem, not the individual 2. That's not how government spending works 3. Why not have this reaction when it comes to PPP loans? Tax cuts for the rich? Ukraine war?
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  19442. Republicans believe poor women don't deserve to have children. They don't deserve autonomy since they rely on welfare.
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  19443. ​ @colorbugoriginals4457 yep
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  19444. ​ @colorbugoriginals4457 that's messed up
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  19445.  @colorbugoriginals4457  Republicans hate the poor and disabled.
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  19446.  @colorbugoriginals4457  have you read functions of poverty?
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  19447. it's by herbert gans. He mentions that poverty serves thirteen purposes, or functions, within America. The synopsis is that poverty is a policy choice, and it's one that is as supported as women's suffrage. Take the first function: low wage jobs. Every capitalist society has "undesirable/lower class, dead end jobs," that are expected to be done. Obviously, no doctor would be a cashier, but yet people want cashiers nonetheless. "Poverty serves as a FUNCTION to create a supply of workers that is unable to be unwilling to perform such jobs as low cost. The main debate over poverty program like family assistance plan, negative income tax, and medicaid proves that it destroys work incentive. By what is actually meant is the incentive that poor people have to do dirty work when the wages therefrom are no larger than the income grant." @enderodelsanto
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  19448. i.e. welfare will always exceed what minimum wage jobs pay, so politicans are faced with a choice: pay minimum wage jobs far more than "clean/desirable" jobs Or force people into said jobs by attaching welfare to work and/or restricting the income grant @davidsenderodelsanto 
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  19449.  @davidsenderodelsanto  did my comment get deleted? I can't post alot
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  19450.  @davidsenderodelsanto  I can't see my comments
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  19451.  @davidsenderodelsanto  Function 1: poverty exists to control workers. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end but are expected to be filled This requires corecion via poverty. Welfare pays more than low wage work, which, if welfare is provided without work requirements, means these jobs won't be filled.
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  19452.  @dominicfucinari1942  okay. But you agree with my point?
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  19453.  @dominicfucinari1942  I think it's two fold Ideology wise, most Americans don't believe poor people deserve to be middle class. It doesn't matter what policy is discussed: living wage,welfare, unions, the end result is the same: doctors deserve six figures, cashiers don't. Economics wise- poor people won't work for slave wages with income support. Welfare like negative income tax and family assistance plan pay more than low wage work.
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  19454. That's not the real reason conservatives oppose debt forgiveness. It's because they oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. Conservatives oppose social insurance
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  19455. Ok
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  19456. That's the point- trump wants to push poor people out of higher education.
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  19457. Yep
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  19458. Yes​ @scottlemiere2024 
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  19459. Companies would change in a hurry.
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  19460. Yep.
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  19461. Yep
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  19462. Correct
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  19463.  @boojeboy1  um. This would be AFTER their wealth is cut off. Leave them in poverty with no chance of reprieve or escape.
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  19464. Thanks. I'm in USA on Medicaid. ​ @jnielsen90 
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  19465. I left incel movement
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  19466.  @Vexarax  ok
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  19467.  @Vexarax  I had high standards as an incel. I lowered them and found a girlfriend . I messed up and we broke up.
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  19468. ​ @Vexarax I had standards too high
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  19469.  @Vexarax  you're right. The right woman who wants to date me knows that looks aren't everything. I don't really want to date, I want to lose my virginity. But it seems I'm going about it better but still incorrectly.
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  19470.  @Vexarax  I met a guy who literally wanted a woman to make $200k/year when he was a cashier.
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  19471. ​ @Vexarax I'm normal,not incel.
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  19472. It isn't about the costs, but the benefits: poor people will refuse minimum wage jobs if welfare isn't restricted.
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  19473. Correct 😅
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  19474. It needs to be written down in the Constitution, that one job must pay enough to people from them to not be in poverty. Enough to live a healthy and humane life.
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  19475. I think it should be very simple, a job is not counted as viable if you can't survive on its compensation. Every job must be a living wage job, so the worker working it is ineligible for welfare. And if you want to go beyond that, every job must be a thriving wage job, which means the workers would have no need to take on debt.
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  19476.  @edbrewington3  I don't believe money is the real problem. The real problem is values. There are get things we put no price on..gun ownership. Freedom of speech. Women's suffrage. Women's consent. No corporate leader or business owner would accept legsls
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  19477. Poor people like myself can't afford to run for office. Herbert gans functions of poverty essay illustrates why poverty persists.
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  19478. Minimum wage does not cause inflation
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  19479. Because they are other wallet warriors, they don't want people getting something for free you're supposed to earn. Poor people don't deserve government assistance, but rich people do. The amount of money doesn't matter
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  19480. Wow.
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  19481. That is also a policy choice that can be done.
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  19482. I always compare poverty to women's suffrage. We as a society have the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, that it is a right that they are supposed to have, so we ensured that they have that right. That's it. Our Society is structured around that simple fact. Wages are not like the weather: Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed that no worker deserved to be poor then no worker then.....no worker would be poor. That's it. We would raise everyone's wages to an acceptable level and deal with the repercussions whatever they might be. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal economic forces, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  19483.  @babyyoda3118  no i mean we choose to allow poverty to exist just like we choose to give women autonomy. If we thought poverty was terrible(like denying women voting) we wouldn't tolerate poverty.
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  19484.  @babyyoda3118  yes... Poverty can end... Also consider USA is worth $14 trillion of the $40 trillion global economy.
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  19485. Okay
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  19486. Yes
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  19487. Wow.
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  19488. Beautiful for me to hear.
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  19489. Why?
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  19490. Yep
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  19491. Hannity makes $45 million a year. His net worth is $200 million.
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  19492. You're right, jessi. I was working minimum wage, only approaching women who were rich models. Super model looking. I lowered my standards and found a woman who wanted to date me. But, i didn't have a driver's license. Car. Or money. So she didn't want to date me.
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  19493. Lol 44% of wage earners make $35k a year or less. 20% of jobs pay less than $8.50 an hour. I wish there was a fairy tail land where anyone could land a $35/hr job but that's the thing about fairy tales- they aren't real.
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  19494. Exactly
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  19495. Okay.
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  19496. Rofl.
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  19497. Beautiful
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  19498. He's too rich to care
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  19499. Slavery.
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  19500. That makes me cry.
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  19501. Yep
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  19502. Just-world fallacy.
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  19503. I'm a very rare incel in that I'm upset AT MYSELF for being a virgin. But not at him
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  19504. @cymbelinebritain6799  I guess I consider sex as the threshold that makes me a man. Yes, I'm 28. But many, many men are younger than me who have had sex, even children. I believe real relationships require risk and work. I'll focus on that. I'm trying to finish community college now.
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  19505.  @cymbelinebritain6799  thank you. Enjoy your life.
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  19506. Slavery.
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  19507. I'm too poor to afford a prostitute. I also have no license or car at 28 so I can't go to social events. I'm broke. And even if I was rich I wouldn't use a prostitute anyway because I want a woman to like me.
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  19508. I'm too poor to afford a hooker. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. $60/week as an intern
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  19509. And you can't pay someone to like you I'm still incel using a sex worker
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  19510.  @MrMarinus18  yes. No doctor is working for $12/hr. I've never seen that much pay for a cashier.
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  19511.  @MrMarinus18  I agree.
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  19512. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  19513.  @RabblesTheBinx  yep
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  19514. Exactly. I work very hard as a cashier, but I make only $10.50/hr.
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  19515. @C. W. K. N.  it doesn't upset you I make a literal poverty wage?
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  19516. @C. W. K. N.  so a neurosurgeon making $900,000/yr is fine, but me making not even $12/hr is acceptable?
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  19517.  @c.w.k.n.5117  how long did it take you to do that?
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  19518.  @c.w.k.n.5117  what about actors? They make millions per movie or episode.
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  19519. @C. W. K. N.  the job requires no education, employment, or training certification(technically). Like cashiers. Yet actors making millions doesn't upset most people. I think income inequality debates are based on the status of the job(ideology), not expense(economics).
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  19520. @C. W. K. N.  but bottom is, you're right. I need to move on. Journalism is a viable career path. Especially science Journalism. And after doing research I discovered it requires no science degree, only on the job training/dedication. So I'll apply myself and get there. Thank you for the talk.
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  19521. @C. W. K. N.  oh, okay. Do you agree, though, that opposition to a living wage minimum wage is based on morals for conservatives? I.e. Even if walmart somehow could afford to pay their cashier sixty dollars an hour, conservatives would still oppose them making that much. Or any more at all.
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  19522. Do you think being a cashier is a dead-end job?
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  19523.  @c.w.k.n.5117  ok cool. I argued with others about this. I told them a cashier job in itself gives you no skills, benefits, nothing. That the job is dead-end. Unlike being a doctor or lawyer or cop. That being said, I'm still in school, I won a full tuition scholarship. I just remembered our conversation from a while back
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  19524.  @c.w.k.n.5117  my replies are gone Fuck YouTube
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  19525.  @c.w.k.n.5117  did you see my reply?
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  19526. None of that is why poverty exists.
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  19527. 1. Rich people can be lazy. It isn't unique to the poor.
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  19528. @iabdgogogo1234letsgo  All poverty is, is having a shortage of resources relative to needs. You simply provide people with enough resources so they're not poor. It's simple, just not cheap. USA may have welfare, but it is neither guaranteed nor sufficient. I was making $10.50/hr at one point but did NOT qualify for medicaid because my state denied medicaid expansion. My state just approved it, but even being on medicaid is dumb because it could be direct cash assistance.
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  19529. @iabdgogogo1234letsgo  the real reason welfare programs are not robust is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  19530. @iabdgogogo1234letsgo  so.. Unemployment, debt, inflation you're complaining about? The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power not continued poverty, that you find unacceptable. You're more concerned about the prices to pay to helping the poor vs not helping the poor.
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  19531.  @iabdgogogo1234letsgo  I don't understand your point.
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  19532.  @iabdgogogo1234letsgo  I'm glad you succeeded. I hope you do not believe that means everyone else can.
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  19533.  @iabdgogogo1234letsgo  except people do try and still fail. You can't believe all systemic problems can be overcome through individual effort alone.
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  19534. Poor people campaign estimates the true poverty rate to be 140 million people -43% of the population
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  19535. yeah work 20 years..why not get it immediately? and the turnover rate is so high 20 years might as well be 20 millenia.
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  19536. ​ @brians7181 ok buddy
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  19537. Disgusting.
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  19538. The problem is conservatives hate unions as well.
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  19539. Rofl
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  19540. Okay. As a former incel l, I'm fine with women approaching men
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  19541. Ironically, I would pay for HBO now that I've seen a full episode on youtube.
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  19542. Exactly 😊
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  19543. You're correct
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  19544. Do it
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  19545. Capitalism is disgusting.
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  19546. Agreed.
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  19547. Yes. I'm socially isolated.
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  19548. So you MORALLY believe poor people don't deserve a living wage, you sicko
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  19549. Yep​ @SandfordSmythe 
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  19550. Don't forget lack of health benefits for part time jobs.
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  19551. If he was a hotel cleaner but made enough to support himself you'd date him?
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  19552.  @hajarhajar8906  amazing!
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  19553. Correct.
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  19554. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  19555. Inflation is an acceptable risk
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  19556. Yep​ @KaiPer-fz5mb 
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  19557. I wonder do these guys realize there are more poor people than rich people, correct?
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  19558. ​ @dmike3507 exactly.
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  19559. Wow
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  19560. of course she did, she's a hack who is shielded from the poverty so many Americans face daily. I bet if she lost her own home or made 7.25 she would change her tune real quick.
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  19561. Factory jobs have been eradicated and replaced with service sector jobs.
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  19562.  @MrTwenty6point2  my point is we replaced low skill factory jobs with low skill service jobs and somehow these people become rapists. it doesn't change the fact we don't start everyone out at a living wage.
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  19563. It doesn't
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  19564. I got a full tuition scholarship so now I got tuition covered. ​ @connordavis2345 
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  19565.  @connordavis2345  my replies are gone. But I said I got tuition covered now.
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  19566.  @connordavis2345  every reply I make is deleted.
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  19567.  @connordavis2345  do you see my replies?
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  19568. Yep
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  19569. Yep.
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  19570. Good. I should quit being a cashier.
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  19571. $23k isn't enough to pay for college or healthcare out of pocket.
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  19572. Exactly
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  19573. ​ @kathrynhurn6307 wow.
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  19574. ​ @thebenc1537 be quiet
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  19575. You are correct
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  19576. That's messed up too.
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  19577. Greed
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  19578. Jesus Christ.
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  19579.  @penknight8532  that's messed up.
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  19580.  @penknight8532  What I'm learning is that our government doesn't truly want to end poverty. It treats worker solidarity as intolerable, not continued poverty
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  19581.  @penknight8532  reading that made me cry because it's the truth.
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  19582. @5353Jumper  last spring, I was in poverty despite doing school, work, and internship all at once. How does that make you feel? 1. Community colleges don't offer health care. 4 year universities do, but only if you pursue a degree full-time, and you still need a loan to afford it. 2. My minimum wage job paid me $10.50/hr. 3. My internship paid me $900/semester, I was taxed on top of that. But since I worked less than 30 hours a week, I was ineligible for health insurance under Obamacare. 4. I'm "able-bodied," in NC: past 25 years old with no kids or disabilities. So I can't receive welfare anyway, no Medicaid for me. 5. Federal work study programs are equally useless: $12-$16/hr at 20 hours a week.
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  19583. Too many poor people
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  19584. Yes
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  19585. ​ @Glenn-wn3uc  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
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  19586. ​@Glenn I suppose a $0.05-$0.50 raise is enough to live on?
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  19587.  @Glenn-wn3uc  Okay. I've decided not to be a cashier anymore, and work on becoming a science journalist.
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  19588.  @Glenn-wn3uc  this is going to be...different..taking on more responsbility...
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  19589.  @Glenn-wn3uc  I don't believe cashiers making even $40/hr would cause doctors to quit their jobs. Inflation is a risk associated with workers having more bargaining power.
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  19590.  @Glenn-wn3uc  when i was a cashier at carlie c's, it was a 15 second negotiation: I wanted $17/hr and 40 hrs a week. He said no and paid me $10/hr instead, refusing to pay me even $12/hr, let alone $20. I also worked 28 hours so i couldn't receive health insurance from working 32 hours a week. Although having left that job, I've desired i don't want to ever return to fast food or retail ever again. I want to focus on getting my associate's degree first. and becoming a journalist second. which is going to be hard.
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  19591.  @Glenn-wn3uc  Wait what? You were in a union for over 30 years? How were you in a union so long but also oppose workers having more bargaining power?
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  19592.  @Glenn-wn3uc  i had to quit the Carlie C's job...because there was a serious conflict from management. Luckily for me, this upcoming fall will make my 3rd mathetmatics-physics internship(even though I have a very low GPA), i also managed to literally get a perfect score/grade in a class at a 4 year university i was accepted into(in educational research, not physics). I even managed to get a good screenwriting reference after i won a screenwriting competition. Right now I desire to be a journalist because i don't desire to keep living off of my family at 28.
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  19593.  @Glenn-wn3uc  I messed up earlier in life so i now i have to work extra hard for a scholarship and in volunteerism, and start a career as a journalist while juggling school.
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  19594.  @Glenn-wn3uc  I just wish life was easier for me like it is for rich people who can coast through college and not need to work much or at all. I just wish i could get this degree already, and i've learned becoming a journalist won't happen overnight either. It's scary for me, but I also don't want to give up.
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  19595. @Glenn  I won't give up. But I hope I've convinced you that at least poverty is a policy choice.
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  19596. Back in the 60s Federal government subsidized public college more which is why tuition was cheaper.
    1
  19597. And after the 70s all the middle class jobs were outsourced and replaced with minimum wage jobs( or near minimum wage)
    1
  19598. Too bad.
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  19599. ​ @countrypoor  except corporations don't want to end poverty.
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  19600. The real reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  19601. Yep
    1
  19602. Wow
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  19603. It needs to be written in the constitution, that one job must pay enough to people to not be in poverty. Enough to live a healthy and humane life.
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  19604. It reduces poverty therefore Republicans oppose it.
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  19605.  @philipdillon83  thanks.
    1
  19606. That's disgusting.
    1
  19607. We're the richest country on Earth but still have so many poor people
    1
  19608. Wrong​ @dewolf123 
    1
  19609. ​@jeremyrangel8138 and that's bad because? It doesn't take money out of your wallet.
    1
  19610. Wow
    1
  19611.  @grmpEqweer  Would kamala harris accept $4.1 billion to deny women the constitutional right to vote?
    1
  19612.  @willieduffie4967  I believe you.
    1
  19613. @user-qr7ee2cp4y  would kamala Harris accept $1 billion to deny women the constitutional right to vote? How about freedom of religion? Freedom of speech?
    1
  19614.  @CadetSammons  underage marriage is pedophilia
    1
  19615.  @user-qr7ee2cp4y  it isn't economics, but ideology. It's about fairness. If we believed people deserved debt forgiveness like freedom of speech, nobody would argue against it.
    1
  19616. ​​ @shamzo1798 you can't buy intimacy or affection. Using an escort means no woman likes me
    1
  19617. @Leo Bigelow  I looked up the 2 other careers I desire (I can only focus on one at a time). Screenwriter and Science journalist/reporter... Both of those pay well and I don't need a college degree to get those jobs. They both require years of hard work. That's me accepting more responsibility/increasing my skills....
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  19618. @Leo Bigelow  It seems like being a journalist/reporter is more realistic. Being a screenwriter is difficult, yes. I succeeded at it for a while(passing a screenwriting class, winning a screenwriting competition, offered some assignments). But when I was on that roll, I quit and never returned.
    1
  19619.  @mhbones475  oh i know. my last job as a cashier paid me $10.50/hr, kept me part time so i couldn't receive health insurance or paid sick leave. I had no pathway to promotion. No way to pay for college. One week after my mom died i had to return to work due to lack of benefits. And while i was working she was dying i couldn't take care of her because my job deprived me of health insurance.
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  19620. Exactly ​@EdgarHernandez-dq4vj
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  19621. An acceptable risk
    1
  19622. It's on purpose
    1
  19623. LOL. BRUTAL. But you're right.
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  19624. That's evil.
    1
  19625. Also, the federal poverty level is artificially low. The poor people's campaign estimates the true number of people in poverty to be 140 million, 43% of the population.
    1
  19626. Great analysis.
    1
  19627. Wow.
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  19628. Genocide?​ @MsNatiBug 
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  19629. Well. I just turned 29. I've never kissed, held hands, hugged, or had sex.
    1
  19630. @robertdegraffenreid7309  why? Many people like having sex. As such, I'm missing out on something most people experience.
    1
  19631.  @Filthy_Larry  yep.
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  19632.  @robertdegraffenreid7309  thank you. I will:)
    1
  19633. That's messed up
    1
  19634. ​ @MM-xc2bt yep
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  19635. Then you find poverty acceptable
    1
  19636. Yep.
    1
  19637. Correct
    1
  19638. ​ @nwatson2773 yep
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  19639. And students deserve poverty? You're arguing for slave labor. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone can get promoted out of a low wage job.
    1
  19640. Wages can be adjusted based on living...
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  19641.  @kreativeforce532  yep
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  19642. @laydeestroh4830  the income threshold is too low
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  19643.  @laydeestroh4830  evil
    1
  19644.  @ey67  yep
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  19645. @Turkey_Hill  no country is going to accept a poor and unskilled person as a citizen. I'll stay in USA and change the system
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  19646. @Turkey_Hill  ah okay. The true opposition to universal healthcare (by the rich) is because people won't accept medical debt or bankruptcy anymore. They'll quit their job that doesn't offer healthcare. It's about having power over others to do society's dirty work. The ideological reason is because many people want poor people to "earn" things like healthcare, but in the same breath, expect the rich to not suffer one bit to receive the same thing.
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  19647. @Turkey_Hill  border crisis: Illegal immigrants are exploited by corporations to work for slave wages. But I see your point.
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  19648. @Turkey_Hill  welfare programs are restricted, like medicaid, to force poor people to work for slave wages and into minimum wage jobs. So on one hand, enough money goes into medicaid to pay for my healthcare but it's restricted behind a paywall. And on the other hand, the government has no incentive to make medicaid more efficient because to do empowers workers. On top of that, the income and wealth thresholds make it impossible to reach middle class income and pay for private health insurance. If the government pays for someone's healthcare, then it is more money than what can be earned working a minimum wage job. Lessening or eliminating welfare like medicaid will not change the underlying problem that lower end jobs are dead-end and do not provide any sort of productivity to enable oneself to escape poverty. This restriction of welfare is also why universal health care, student loan forgiveness, free college, are all opposed- to keep people desperate to be under the boots of employers. And why things like weak labor unions, illegal immigration, and competitive labor markets, are supported- because they undercut labor power.
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  19649. @Turkey_Hill  ah ok
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  19650.  @missJolie85  that's messed up
    1
  19651.  @WilliamTillack  okay
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  19652. @WilliamTillack  what are you saying?
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  19653. @WilliamTillack  you're right I can't have hatred in my heart forever
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  19654. Correct.
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  19655. Ok
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  19656.  @steven0152  taxes don't have to be raised to pay for college.
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  19657. You bring up an excellent point conservatives don't want to admit: that poverty is a systemic problem. We used to have middle class manufacturing jobs for people with low levels of education. then then we outsourced, downsized, and automated the manufacturing sector down to a bare bones skeleton. We replaced these jobs with service sector jobs
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  19658. Wow
    1
  19659. ​ @analogboi that too
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  19660. Wow
    1
  19661. ​ @OctEddie that's even more evil
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  19662. Ok
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  19663. No because hookers don't like you.
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  19664.  @lukehelleksen68  it's evil.
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  19665.  @MoOo-e9n  poverty is not a choice. Poor people have real problems like the middle class do. Neither group deserves priority over the other.
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  19666.  @KeshonFilms  being poor isn't a mindset. I'm in community college. I want to transfer to university and obtain a bachelor's degree in physics/science. But I'm currently very poor and need welfare to get by, which is restricted anyway so I am unable to finish school without outside help, AFTER my mom passed from being sick/on Medicaid herself.
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  19667. I want to finish community college, transfer to university, get a bachelor's degree. Then a PhD.
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  19668.  @KeshonFilms  you're right. I have to work hard and sacrifice to obtain my degree. For starters, I have to work on moving out.
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  19669.  @KeshonFilms  thanks buddy.
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  19670. Lol so they are detached from reality?
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  19671. Yep
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  19672. There you go.
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  19673. Yep
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  19674. I'm owning my mistakes as a former incel.
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  19675. ​ @dkupke exactly.
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  19676. Well, I'm desperate for sex but I'm also calm. I've asked women for sex before...they all rejected me.
    1
  19677. @user-kw7te9qn4r  I see. I got car insurance. I'm working on getting a driver's license. Then a job. Then a car.
    1
  19678.  @RougeMaster  I also have to eat better and exercise.
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  19679.  @RougeMaster  I'm 28 years old. I want to lose my virginity.
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  19680. Why ubi doesn't work- it pays more than work
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  19681. ​ @uncomfortabletruth5915 Republicans hate welfare because poor people don't see work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  19682. ​ @uncomfortabletruth5915 I'm on welfare because cashiers don't make $11/hr
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  19683. You want them in poverty
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  19684.  @13tuyuti  wow.
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  19685. Thank you.
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  19686. Teachers don't make enough.
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  19687. None.
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  19688. Yep.
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  19689. Corporations pay workers by skill, not profitability. If they paid workers based on profits their employees would make way more than what they make now.
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  19690. ​ @infiniterer287 So it isn't just about money?
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  19691. Corporations expect limitless financial assistance from their workers but then complain about offering any financial assistance in return.
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  19692.  @wolfman515  lol moving the goalpost.
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  19693. Kids without college degrees experience poverty as well. And times change. It's time for our values to change too.
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  19694.  @JamesBrown-or8lx  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone can be promoted out of a low wage job.
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  19695.  @JamesBrown-or8lx  then....why criticize the poor for wanting a better life?
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  19696.  @JamesBrown-or8lx  you can't have it both ways. You oppose a living wage but also welfare for the same reason. You're asking these people to die.
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  19697. ​@FletchforFreedom you're a minimum wage troll.
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  19698.  @wrv341  sounds good
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  19699. ​ @MrWyzdum LOL.
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  19700. ​ @generalghost7372 my comments are getting deleted. I will take your advice and grow up.
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  19701.  @generalghost7372  thanks. When I get laid, the WHOLE WORLD will know!!
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  19702. Good old Calvinism is alive and well my friend
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  19703. ​ @doreenryan7325 poor people in USA like me can't afford to run for office
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  19704. It lowers the desire to work dead-end jobs.
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  19705. Welcome to the matrix
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  19706. No. Her total offers equaled $2 million. She didn't receive that much money.
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  19707. You can't buy intimacy so prostitution solves nothing. I'm still an incel if I can only have paid sex
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  19708.  @DebraWelch  I'm an incel. I'm happy he had sex. I'm angry at MYSELF for still being a virgin at 28.
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  19709. ​ @MarkLinton-ik1zt I got my driver's license!!
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  19710. Corporations are the entire problem with welfare, healthcare, education, and immigration. Corporations want cheap labor, so they support welfare being restricted, illegal immigration, legal immigration being tied to employment, and no universal healthcare in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
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  19711. Ok
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  19712. That hurt me.
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  19713.  @goodtimepoke  I'm incel because I don't try to date, i view everything as a commodity and I have poor social skills. I also am a loser, although I'm not a NEET. Your words hurt me Because it made me realize my lack of sex is my own fault.
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  19714. That's awesome.
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  19715. ​ @spikem5950 exactly
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  19716.  @denisemayosky1955  exactly.
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  19717. I'm not a violent incel
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  19718. So I'm a loser?
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  19719. I need a car and money to do that
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  19720.  @ryanmalone2681  no
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  19721. Ok I'm changing then​ @ryanmalone2681 
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  19722. Exactly.
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  19723. ​ @thewhitefalcon8539 yep
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  19724. It isn't hypocritical if you're Calvinist.
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  19725. Places like Chick-fil-A make enough to pay their cashiers $100,000/year. So, in a way, the productivity for minimum wage workers is even higher than what you suggest.
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  19726. I always compare poverty to women's suffrage. We as a society have the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, that it is a right that they are supposed to have, so we ensured that they have that right. That's it. Our Society is structured around that simple fact. Wages are not like the weather: Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed that no worker deserved to be poor then no worker then.....no worker would be poor. That's it. We would raise everyone's wages to an acceptable level and deal with the repercussions whatever they might be. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal economic forces, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  19727. Prostitutes don't count because the affection isn't genuine.
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  19728.  @32eoin32  that's Doppler shifting. What sabine refers to is cosmological shifting.
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  19729. Yes.
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  19730. Correct
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  19731. $500k in 1913 is $16 million today.
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  19732. I'm poor and unskilled and use welfare
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  19733. Because many people don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape. THAT is what the minimum wage debate really reveals.
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  19734. I guess poverty will take a smoke break until then.
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  19735. Shouldn't have to do that to go to college.
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  19736. ​ @williamheller1362 exactly
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  19737. Yes. It's easier to feel sorry for yourself than to put in the work and change.
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  19738. That's terrible
    1
  19739. ​ @Falcodrin because they want to see disabled people suffer
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  19740. ​ @ColoringKaria Americans believe people who are unable or unwilling to work are a burden.
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  19741. Yep
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  19742. That Is sad.
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  19743. Republicans generally oppose welfare.
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  19744. Wow
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  19745. Not the fire problem at all
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  19746. Community colleges aren't tuition free either
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  19747. No, it's because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  19748. Late response. But the real political problem for guaranteed income isn't the costs, but the benefits. It would give workers more power and they would, in turn, refuse poverty wages.
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  19749. Yes.
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  19750. Yep
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  19751. That's evil😊
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  19752. Who is saying pay everyone the same?
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  19753.  @NotAHomelessGamer  it's roughly $10,000 a year in state, double that for out-of-state students, and double that for international students, who can't receive financial aid by the way.
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  19754. ​ @scottmyers909  exactly.
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  19755. Except they're "worthy" of government help.
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  19756.  @Ezekiels1  50k?
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  19757. @T33-y8b  yep. The reasons both parties ignore the poor are simple- We have no money and thus no economic power And poverty's persistence makes many politicians believe poverty is an unsolvable issue.
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  19758.  @paulclinton6414  ok
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  19759.  @derbywinner6316  k
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  19760. @dimedraweriv258  nothing in this world is free....
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  19761. @dimedraweriv258  okay.
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  19762. @adambirkholtz8363  I think people are angry poor people get "for free" What others get "through hard work."
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  19763. @adambirkholtz8363  I don't know why people criticize the poor who actually Want to be educated
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  19764. @dimedraweriv258  but it doesn't matter how many people have done it, everyone cannot do it.
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  19765. @dimedraweriv258  there are tens of millions of people with student debt.
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  19766. Nancy Pelosi is worth $220 million
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  19767. Yes😢
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  19768. It's ideology, not economics.
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  19769.  @BossFountainGames  kamala harris would not accept $1 million to deny women voting, or $1 billion, or $1 trillion, or if all student debt was erased. On some level, politicians don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape. They don't believe all sources of deprivation are wrong.
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  19770. Correct. And that's just tuition.
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  19771. Rights are policy choices, not laws of nature like gravity
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  19772.  @SemekiIzuio  yep
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  19773.  @nattalete  not college.
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  19774.  @AK255.  Lol you are anyway.
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  19775.  @AK255.  Blame Reagan for believing poor people shouldn't be educated, not struggling college students.
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  19776.  @AK255.  They do affect your life. Every political decision affects your life.
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  19777.  @AK255.  College students wanting a chance to escape poverty doesn't make them cry babies. College being only for rich people, or just rich and middle class people, is asinine.
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  19778.  @DA-wx9oz  it's low skill.
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  19779. People get paid on what they negotiate, and most workers have too little bargaining power to negotiate for decent pay.
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  19780. @Ashwin M S  my point is no one truly has any objective measure of "worth." Both liberals and conservatives want to attribute value to society, but because of their different ideologies, they fail to see that worth isn't something you can measure, like weight.
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  19781. @Ashwin M S  billionaires profit from the very system responsible for poverty - a government that tolerates low wages, lack of benefits, no job loyalty, non-existent unionization, and monopolization. Hard work is only one facet of success. Luck and skill are other factors.
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  19782.  @ashwinmssuv  so I'm in poverty now. I'm trying to Escape it. I shouldn't be blaming rich people like Bill Gates?
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  19783. Logic doesn't work with these conservatives because they believe in just world fallacy.
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  19784. Yes
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  19785. This won't change their minds
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  19786. They believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class
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  19787. Politicians want people poor and desperate.
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  19788. I don't promote that
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  19789. Republicans believe minimum wage workers don't deserve to make that much money. It has nothing to do with the expense, and everything to do with status
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  19790.  @KaleidoscopicPalindrome  you don't need a PS5 to survive, you do need money to survive, false equivalence. And not everyone receives a living wage.
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  19791.  @KaleidoscopicPalindrome  not everyone can afford food or a vehicle, or even a PS5. If everyone could afford food there'd be no need for food stamps.
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  19792.  @KaleidoscopicPalindrome  no amount of effort can afford those things. No amount of working at 7.25/hr can afford transportation, healthcare, or benefits. Any one of them, let alone all 3 at once. According to that response, women before 1918 were too lazy to vote.
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  19793.  @wtice4632  the government can define all of that, like it already does with existing poverty and benefits.
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  19794.  @wtice4632  the constitution can provide entitlements, both rights are enforced by laws, which are policy choices.
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  19795.  @wtice4632  I don't need to listen to him. The constitution can include a living wage. It's a matter of if we're willing to pay the cost for it or not, just like the Constitution gives women the right to vote.
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  19796.  @wtice4632  now you're putting words in my mouth, I didn't say the government is the solution to everything. I said you can write in the Constitution a living wage amendment. Hell businesses can make that a policy for themselves if they wanted, just like their benefits for employees. A business needs to cover things like rent, taxes, and electricity to be considered viable. A living wage could be included in that package.
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  19797.  @wtice4632  What do you mean? the people who live America....
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  19798.  @wtice4632  free speech and voting are both entitlements, are you saying those require slavery to exist? because I disagree.
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  19799. That's messed up
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  19800. @Merican Modi  you believe in just-world fallacy. You do not honestly believe that 140 million people are poor by choice. I don't control the cost of housing or Healthcare or college. It is not my fault, as a poor person, things are so expensive. Nor is it my fault corporations are greedy and don't want to pay workers a living wage. No laws of physics decide what people are owed. We decide that for ourselves. If no one was truly owed anything, then women couldn't vote, I couldn't own a gun, you couldn't practice the religion you want, and so on.
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  19801. Yep
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  19802. What you fail to see is the real reason conservatives oppose welfare: poor people will refuse minimum wage jobs if they have access to robust social programs.
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  19803. Except there's a stigma around poor people receiving a living wage as well for the same reason UBI has a stigma - because poor people don't "work hard enough to succeed," and thus don't deserve to be middle class.
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  19804. Correct.
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  19805. You can't force poor people to not have children. And you shouldn't punish poor people for being human.
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  19806. Everyone depends on the government
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  19807. I cry reading this.
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  19808. Because politicians don't want to end poverty
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  19809. Thank you.
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  19810.  @AmazingStoryDewd  Let me explain to you what you and Kyle are not understanding. Conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors demanded $15 an hour the same conservatives would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage then. Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with expense and everything to do with status. It's not an economics issue to them it's a moral one. In their eyes some workers are simply undeserving of being paid enough to live.
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  19811.  @janisauzins4103  ah ok. I just learn aerospace engineering in a library and NASA will hire me. Makes perfect sense.
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  19812.  @janisauzins4103  that's anecdotal. Learning on youtube is not accreditation.
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  19813. No.
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  19814. Because an Incel's problem isn't lack of sex it's entitlement to women.
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  19815.  @helpfulcommenter  i should know because i have this disgusting mentality. But deep down i know it isn't women's fault why I'm not happy.
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  19816.  @helpfulcommenter  yeah I've scheduled weekly therapy sessions. Also I'm taking driving test in 2 days. I need a car and job to.... Go out and socialize.
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  19817.  @helpfulcommenter  thanks. I was just sharing I'm not violent..
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  19818. Just-world fallacy
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  19819. Correct
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  19820. ​ @Kwk16534 ok
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  19821. It's just-world fallacy.
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  19822. It's just-world fallacy.
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  19823. Exactly
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  19824. Sounds like just world fallacy to me.
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  19825. I'm lazy and sit at home.
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  19826. Lol
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  19827. Republicans believe that the pain of poverty will motivate minimum wage workers to gain the skills, making them worthy of a living wage
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  19828. It's simple, poor people can't do any of that. What you're not understanding is the real reason conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage is it's a moral issue. Conservatives believe they have the right to decide how much money other people deserve to make, and they believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  19829. Why did his subscriber count increase tank? His older videos have 500k+ views....
    1
  19830. Holy crap.
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  19831.  @007kingifrit  ok buddy
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  19832. Trump believes poor people don't deserve to have children.
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  19833. Why would that matter?
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  19834.  @TheJarlofWhiterun  that's messed up.
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  19835.  @sirtheodorefranciswindsor  no I'm not...
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  19836. That seems like exploitation either way. If they pay you hourly they don't want you to work past 40 hours because you'll get benefits. If they pay you salary you'll make less per hour when you add up the insane hours you work than staying hourly.
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  19837. When I worked at McDonald's I made $850 an hour. I would work 30 to 40 hours a week and still be denied benefits anyway. My boss would work 70 to 100 a week. he made less per hour than I did once you added up his take home pay.
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  19838. Wrong mindset. Because healthcare isn't earned.
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  19839. Correct
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  19840.  @blackahjumma692  that's depressing.
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  19841. That's a half win....
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  19842. Why can't there be an actual expansion?
    1
  19843. ​ @MedicalAutonomyProject ok
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  19844. Exactly. It's why Nixon Family Plan failed.
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  19845. More like upper poverty.
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  19846. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier. Wouldn't be a problem if a single t shirt was $60 at walmart.
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  19847. Which everyone cannot afford either
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  19848. So they want bigger government for the rich and corporations
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  19849. You're heartless and these jobs are worth much more than $31k a year
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  19850. Yep
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  19851. Blame corporations
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  19852.  @Regenmacher175  yep
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  19853. That's a systemic problem....
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  19854. Ok
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  19855. Wow
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  19856. Because only rich people and business owners deserve government help.
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  19857. That's messed up
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  19858.  @Antonio-69-420  thank you. i hope i win a full ride scholarship or the lottery.
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  19859.  @claritey  what these people are ultimately saying is they believe only middle class people deserve welfare, healthcare education marriage and abortion. They want people to pay for K-12, through vouchers. I hate this cruelty
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  19860.  @claritey  that's messed up
    1
  19861. What?​ @billwhitis9997 
    1
  19862. ​ @pharma37 except not everyone can or should.
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  19863.  @pharma37  ok
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  19864. Because it's about just world fallacy
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  19865. The core problem is that prostitution stems from the demand from men.
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  19866. Wow
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  19867. Because politicians view rising worker power as a policy disaster, not relief. They use the whip of poverty, not higher salaries, to keep workers in place.
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  19868. $28.13 an hour accounting for inflation. accounting for cost of college, it would be $41 an hour
    1
  19869. Because republicans want to cut welfare in order to force poor people to work minimum wage jobs, but Democrats won't reform welfare because it requires more money than USA is willing to spend.
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  19870. Using a hooker won't help me because I still would be unable to be with a woman who likes me.
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  19871. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
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  19872. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  19873. ​ @SherryEllesson exactly
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  19874. No. You don't need to poor people to work to be motivated to escape poverty.
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  19875. @SonicBoomC98  you know very well that nobody wants to be poor. The real reason republicans oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  19876. They don't care about the poor.
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  19877. Jesus Christ.
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  19878. I bet he couldn't pay that off working minimum wage today.
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  19879.  @sinisapetkov993  holy crap.
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  19880. Exactly
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  19881. That's evil.
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  19882. ​ @eugeniogutierrez9869 it's about priorities
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  19883. If I was in charge there I'd fine those businesses 3x what was spent on public assistance THEN give that money to the workers that used the public assistance.
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  19884. The core problem is our government doesn't want to eliminate poverty. It's that simple but no politician is courageous enough to say it.
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  19885. It's funny how when the poor receive money there's strings attached but the rich getting money involves a blank check.
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  19886. Why does our government love poverty?
    1
  19887. Republicans DO think about others....like them....ignorant rich people.
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  19888.  @seanking1775  Because Americans are disillusioned into believing no problem is due to a systemic factor. If they admit that, they are admitting things like poverty and debt CANNOT be solved by any one person.
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  19889.  @markzuckergecko621  Yes. There are people who believe there are no systemic problems. Or believe that enough individual effort can overcome any obstacle. Yes, I've met people like this. I've met anarchists.
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  19890.  @zoyadulzura7490  that's evil
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  19891. I'm in your situation now. I'm at community college. I was paying $20 for blue Cross Blue shield but Medicaid expansion caused me to lose my premium tax credit
    1
  19892. My health insurance premium went from $20 to $436, I can't afford that working minimum wage. I was on food stamps but lost it because of the work requirements (I don't work now)
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  19893. 7.25 is already 0 because you can't live off of it
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  19894. Poor people would run for office if they could afford it. Many of them, like myself, are stuck in terrible jobs with no way to move up or out.
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  19895. They only support welfare for the rich, not the poor.
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  19896. That's messed up.
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  19897.  @cloudyskies5497  why isn't tenure common?
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  19898. Millions make more than 7.25 but less than 15.
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  19899.  @bryankoerselman5698  okay. Believe that lie.
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  19900.  @bryankoerselman5698  16 is fine
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  19901. Ok I believe you.
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  19902. Do these rich people play stupid or are they actually stupid?
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  19903. Republicans don't listen to poor people such as myself.
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  19904. Except politicians don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
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  19905. Why?
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  19906.  @robertpresley1503  it's a bot.
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  19907.  @cake_9510  ok.
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  19908.  @SongSwan  which requires money.
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  19909. I go to 2 colleges at once, work as a cashier at a grocery store, and am in an internship. I desire to finish getting my degree, becoming independent and healthier.
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  19910.  @FrankSavona-l3w  you have to abolish corporations.
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  19911.  @matthewhowe3727  the real reason she's getting this support is because opposing the VP while there is a incumbent president is political suicide. I don't think any mainstream Democrats actually support her.
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  19912.  @dougfleming1708  yep
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  19913.  @RRR-ox9ud  LOL.
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  19914.  @allsayicee6555  Republicans want poverty too.
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  19915.  @lookupverazhou8599  why yell? I can hear you. It's great that you work for a living. But many poor people who use welfare do work. And everyone who works is not capable of living without government assistance. And college education helps poor people obtain higher paying jobs.
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  19916.  @lookupverazhou8599  and my replies are gone.
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  19917.  @lookupverazhou8599  what? I'm obviously saying poor people CANNOT afford college.
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  19918.  @lookupverazhou8599  it does yes. When it's made affordable through scholarships and grants
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  19919.  @ryno_8748  yes.
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  19920.  @ryno_8748  I also love how employers and the rich believe they have the right to decide how others should live. Imagine me, as a man, deciding how women should live. I get to decide how much money women deserve to make. I have the right to speak for them.
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  19921. Because I'd rather not work than work a job that pays me minimum wage and offers zero benefits or chance for advancement?
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  19922. Would you rather not work or would you rather pursue a law degree that you know will take four hundred years to complete and will still pay minimum wage anyway?
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  19923. No. Because the incel still would be unable to find a girl who genuinely likes him.
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  19924. Only rich people and business owners deserve bailouts.
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  19925. No
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  19926. read herbert gans functions of poverty.
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  19927. They believe unskilled workers deserve to be poor due to being uneducated/lazy.
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  19928. Except for women.
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  19929. Hypocrisy
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  19930. Yep.
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  19931. Because Republicans don't want poor people empowered. Government benefits empower poor people to reject slave wages
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  19932. LOL.
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  19933. Exactly.
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  19934. No billionaire alive has ever donated 99% of their wealth away. Even if they did it still wouldn't affect their quality of life at all. And he didn't earn anything. All successful people require capability, willingness, and luck, to succeed. It is a well-known fact that not all people are equally capable or equally lucky or equally willing. Plus IP laws create monopolies and allow people like him and bill gates to exist
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  19935. Because politicians and the rich believe you give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
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  19936. In the 50s through 70s state governments paid for 90 to 95 percent of college tuition, allowing it to be dirt cheap for the poor. Now that cost is mostly on the students. So take tuition at any college and divide it by 20, that was the out of pocket costs for students decades ago.
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  19937. ​ @aaron-1707 exactly.
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  19938. ​ @tsuchan if the market can handle ot then screw an economy that doesn't work for the people.
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  19939. Correct
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  19940. Then how do I, as an incel, change this? I can't lose my vcard. I can't have sex because women deny me that.
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  19941. ​ @Siksama lower my standards?
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  19942. ​ @Nutty151 sex worķ is emotionless
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  19943.  @Nutty151  I've never relied on sex work. I want to lose my virginity another way
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  19944.  @Nutty151  is using a hooker immoral?
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  19945. ​ @Nutty151 you can't buy intimacy
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  19946.  @Dcart5  he's joking...
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  19947. Correct.
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  19948. What's sad is wages don't have to be so low.
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  19949. you're an other wallet warrior. minimum wage jobs are dead end and give you no skills. They don't pay you enough to afford college either. @cassady7169 
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  19950. Exactly.
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  19951. Correct. But several problems you aren't realizing. 1. Conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage because their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low level abilities entitle to earn. 2. Corporations treat rising worker power, not continued poverty, as unacceptable. 3. Politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations cannot control workers.
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  19952. Yep​ @chrispery9002 
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  19953. Doesn't work.
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  19954. Lol.
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  19955. Get a new job that pays a living wage then.
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  19956. Correct. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  19957.  @dominicfucinari1942  that's messed up as well.
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  19958. Wow
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  19959. Conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  19960. Because politicians hate the poor
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  19961. $3.2 trillion? We could have a $30/hr minimum wage with that....
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  19962. Why not?
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  19963. Because conservatives like him 1. Believe poor women don't deserve to have kids 2. Society's dirty work should get done with poverty
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  19964. Yep!
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  19965. Ideology: Republicans believe poor people don't deserve healthcare Economics: with robust welfare, poor people won't work minimum wage jobs Medicare for all: it risks changing too much
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  19966. Yes
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  19967. I don't envy him. I am angry.
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  19968. Correct.
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  19969. Then adjust your business model if the pay is so low it produces poverty wages.
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  19970.  @p.b.4464  You're with whom?
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  19971. Exactly.
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  19972. ​ @patchwurk6652  yea
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  19973. ​ @patchwurk6652 yep
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  19974. Yes
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  19975. Wow.
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  19976. Yes. You are correct.
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  19977. Yep
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  19978. She's conservative so she believes in just world fallacy.
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  19979. That's greedy corporations
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  19980. Correct.
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  19981. Billionaires receive over $1 trillion in one year and we can't give the poor $15 an hour.
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  19982. Yes
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  19983. I want to
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  19984. Hazard pay at my supermarket is an extra $2/hr.
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  19985. The problem with that is I need welfare while going to community college and it's expensive to live.
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  19986. Poor people are ignored
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  19987. The top 1% have so much money that the top 50% income earners pay 97% of income taxes
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  19988. The work requirements for Medicaid exists to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Rich people want to keep workers in or near poverty so that workers are desperate enough to work for slave wages.
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  19989. Yes.
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  19990. It defines my existence.
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  19991. @Chelsea Craft  unfortunately I'm poor, so I can't afford a prostitute. But me being in poverty is a bigger problem than not having had sex yet. You're right. If I truly was insecure about losing my virginity, I'd have used a prostitute by now.
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  19992.  @HedgeHermit  Women do get rejected, but they can get sex for free more easily than men. It's why straight male prostitution is virtually nonexistent.
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  19993. @Chelsea Craft  I don't consider paying for sex to be real because you can't buy affection.
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  19994.  @HedgeHermit  you wouldn't look down on someone for using a hooker?
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  19995. ​@chelseacraft4669 you're right.
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  19996. No.
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  19997. ​@El Howard that's messed up.
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  19998. I want to be a news reporter.
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  19999. The reason Republicans want work requirements is to force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs
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  20000. Yep
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  20001. Rich people deserve more money. Poor people deserve less. Their dumb logic
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  20002. Good for you.
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  20003. I'm miserable for being a virgin at 28.
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  20004. She isn't arguing for equality.
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  20005. I have only a few friends, I live in a very large city with lots of opportunities and events and people to meet. Problem is I'm poor and I have no license or car so I'm too broke to go out and meet others.
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  20006.  @jerryanddiannedennison5644  because I can't change politics. I cannot change this country in such a way as to convince Americans that people have a right to healthcare like a right to voting.
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  20007.  @jerryanddiannedennison5644  because I can't change political ideology
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  20008.  @JCIIIBULLET  both politicians are rich
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  20009.  @mariselamontes1553  I will keep working hard at community college, despite me losing my mom and 20s since I took care of her rather than go to school. But Kamala doesn't care about me or my mom
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  20010.  @donnasantiago9245  it's why...I said I don't vote. Both politicians do not care about my well-being.
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  20011. K​ @RG-bd5fy 
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  20012.  @judycook6496  I don't vote. I know he cut Medicaid.
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  20013.  @Sildaorf  I have none and bottom line I don't think anyone can pinpoint inflation source.
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  20014. Exactly
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  20015. That can be outlawed.
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  20016. Yep.
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  20017.  @biancaenera2500  I don't vote. Voting makes no difference.
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  20018. Good for you!
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  20019. ​ @frankmacleod2565 exactly
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  20020. If he cancels 50k and let's say your student loans are 20K does that mean you get 30k to pursue College?
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  20021. It shows what the priorities of politicians are. Politicians treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  20022.  @Ganderbin  holy crap.
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  20023. They don't care about poor people
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  20024. They're fine with being embarrassed, as long as they remain rich afterwards and people are dumb enough to vote for them.
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  20025. Thank you for mentioning that poverty is a systemic problem.
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  20026. THIS
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  20027.  @darkwaters4327  so i guess i have to suck it up and impress women. Work on myself.
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  20028.  @darkwaters4327  all righty. Better late than never to start right now.
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  20029. The problem is any UBI that lifts people out of poverty pays more than minimum wage jobs
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  20030. You don't see what I see. When money is spent to help the poor it is called an "entitlement" but when money is spent to help the rich it is called an "investment." Politicians and the rich believe you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing. Adding it all up it turns out the rich receives far more money than the poor and people still shit on the poor for the money that they make even though it's far less than the rich and they're still poor even with the money they get.
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  20031. Yep
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  20032. I'd like her to tell me how, as a man, I can make a hundred grand a month like her. Even most heart surgeons don't make that kind of money.
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  20033. @Robby Lebotha ™  yep. 60% of american households make less than $75,000/yr.
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  20034.  @robbylebotha  A neurosurgeon makes $900,000 a year. So even he is "broke."
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  20035. That's what politics is about. Choosing who lives and who dies.
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  20036. Yep
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  20037. It's both Housing is too high but also people want minimum wage workers in poverty.
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  20038. That's evil
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  20039. That's an acceptable price
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  20040.  @ryanadams0922  sounds good.
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  20041. Wow
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  20042.  @robertmatthews2009  that's crazy low...
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  20043. Yep. Reagan made college affordable only for the rich.
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  20044. I read that pell grants used to cover 80-85% cost of college, now that cost is mostly on the students.
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  20045. Idk but you'll manage
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  20046.  @nUmBskulLL  ok
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  20047.  @tuckerhuckstercharlatan5316  without unions these workers have no bargaining power.
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  20048. Lol what?
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  20049. People make what they negotiate, not what they're worth.
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  20050. If they paid based on profits workers would make around $100,000/year.
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  20051. Money
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  20052. POOR Americans. They hate helping poor people and minorities.
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  20053. Exactly.
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  20054. It isn't a laugh track.
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  20055.  @AdamRitchie2  exactly.
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  20056.  @AdamRitchie2  I only want higher unionization. $35/hr minimum wage. Free college. Medicare for all. Ubi.
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  20057. The core prone is ideological, not economic- politicians do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
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  20058. Well that's because in the 70s most unskilled jobs were industrial jobs that were respected. Now most unskilled jobs are service sector jobs that are treated with disdain. I've never heard someone insult a factory worker, but I can't tell you how many times someone has said "Burger flippers" don't deserve 20 bucks an hour.
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  20059. ​ @caveslug-t2k  exactly.
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  20060. You're not doing that making 40k today with inflation.
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  20061.  @JillandKevin  Just like in economics, in ideology, all priorities are not created equal. We all must find certain things unacceptable in order to not create moral contradictions. Not only do we lack the capability (scarcity) to help everyone, but we lack the willingness as well. All politics is about choosing how to confront fear of the unknown in face of this fact.
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  20062.  @JillandKevin  this is my main point: you either surrender to fear by choosing risk mitigation or you face fear by choosing existential opportunity. You choose risk mitigation: of inflation, automation, unemployment, and health insurance premium spikes, Over Existential opportunity (of a workforce devoid of poverty wages) You prioritize having lower costs over rising labor power. This means you don't find poverty unacceptable.
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  20063.  @JillandKevin  that's an acceptable risk to empower poor people. If I were to agree with you, then we'd both be admitting we prefer cheap prices and poverty.
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  20064. Democrats passed a covid spending bill of $1.9 trillion without republican support. They could've leveraged a minimum wage increase with that.
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  20065. That's messed up
    1
  20066.  @chiangkaishrek5123  correct
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  20067. Ok.
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  20068. That's messed up
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  20069. Republicans will never enact robust welfare programs because then nobody would accept minimum wage jobs
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  20070. He got a master's degree from UC Berkley.. It was $480/year when he attended. It's $15,000/yr today in state and $44,000/yr out of state.
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  20071. McDonald's pays "up to" $35/hr, but that includes management. Cashiers still make $8.50/hr.
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  20072. @omnisomnia  north carolina.
    1
  20073.  @omnisomnia  I just left a grocery store paying cashiers $10/hr offering $0.50 "raises."
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  20074.  @omnisomnia  yep.
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  20075. That's messed up
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  20076. Jesus, what are homes there? $1 million?
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  20077. 3,000 tinder swipes and I'm still a virgin. 7 years of using dating apps to no avail.
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  20078. yeah i've been told i'm a loser. i'm 28 years old, with no job, car, or place of my own, and i live with my family. @CodyCLI 
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  20079. You're wrong. These senators KNOW the minimum wage increase helps businesses, these people are fundamentally opposed to reducing poverty.
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  20080. You're missing something. In their eyes: Factory workers are worthy of a middle class lifestyle. Cashiers are not.
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  20081. According to conservatives they do.
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  20082. Republicans believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  20083. Of course it hasn't happened yet. It implies no income inequality
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  20084. Correct. Education is unaffordable AND we have become a low wage economy.
    1
  20085. You are correct
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  20086. Republicans believe disabled people are a burden
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  20087.  @kentfink9509  you make what you negotiate. Without collective bargaining, employers will always have power over employees.
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  20088.  @kentfink9509  no it isn't okay... No job any worker can get gives them equal power to an employer.
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  20089.  @kentfink9509  what the hell is wrong with you. A business is a relationship. That's by definition, a two way street. Yes you're supposed to negotiate on both sides.
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  20090.  @kentfink9509  demands that you can't choose due to lack of bargaining power.
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  20091.  @kentfink9509  I've ran a business. I quit because it wasn't my passion.
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  20092.  @kentfink9509  yes...you are owed a voice. You are owed consent.
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  20093.  @kentfink9509  i don't know how to explain to you what inequality is.
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  20094.  @kentfink9509  the economy is a collective entity...which requires collective action and agreements.
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  20095.  @kentfink9509  that's slavery if you get to have all the say.
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  20096.  @kentfink9509  there's nothing free about it.
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  20097.  @kentfink9509  no. We just disagree ideologically
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  20098.  @kentfink9509  no...i don't believe man is good. Hence why neither employees nor employers can be left to their own devices. If employers were logical and fair like you claim then we wouldn't need industrial regulators or labor laws of any kind.
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  20099.  @kentfink9509  and that's why we disagree. Because it isn't an individual responsibility there's a collective one. Both exist but for some reason you deny that.
    1
  20100. Because politicians want to help the rich and hinder the poor
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  20101. ​@jimmy_xi9342 gun ownership is a constitutional right. Constitutional rights are policy choices.
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  20102. Reading that made me cry.
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  20103. Minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone can be promoted out of a low wage job. What you're saying is you are more concerned about having cheap prices than workers having a living wage, meaning you find poverty acceptable. Not everyone can work a trade job.
    1
  20104. Yes.
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  20105. Wrong take away message
    1
  20106. It's more like 44% based on the poor people's campaign.
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  20107. 140 million people.
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  20108. QE is welfare for the rich.
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  20109. Hahaha
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  20110. Yep
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  20111. Yep.
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  20112. Last spring, i was taking 2 classes at community College, 1 class at a 4 year university, being a cashier at a supermarket, being an intern, volunteering, and taking care of my sick mom all at once. I received no healthcare from the schools, job, or internship. I received no medicaid due to NC denying medicaid expansion : I'm poor but "able-bodied." I.e. I'm 28 with no kids or disabilities. My mom was very sick, and i had no health insurance to take care of her. I couldn't afford health care out of pocket to fully take care of her either. So i had to choose: leave my educational dreams to die or leave my mom to die. I chose to help my mom. Now, because my grades slipped, I've lost what little financial aid i had, given no do over (despite my school knowing my mom was sick and died), and I STILL have no healthcare.
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  20113. Welfare would still be a problem because many people are disabled and unable to work and because corporations want cheap labor
    1
  20114.  @paratek_io  usa is good only for the rich
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  20115.  @paratek_io  Schiff is wrong. College used to be affordable via the government. The government kept prices low and provided tuition coverage through a GI bill. And in usa, unlike other countries, has no central regulatory body concerning college. There's no central body controlling the tuition, size or admissions.
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  20116. you could get college for free? Why are the baristas mad then?
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  20117. It's easy. It's because these politicians don't believe every worker deserves to be middle class.
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  20118. Because these incels want control, not sex
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  20119. Ok
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  20120. 42% of his population is poor or low income. 42% of child births are covered by Medicaid. So many people are poor i don't understand why Newsom don't try to capture their votes
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  20121. Does it ever occur to her dumb self that maybe a job should pay enough to obviate the need for welfare? Imagine if a neurosurgeon made so little that they qualified for medicaid. Are we going to call the doctors lazy? Or are we going to blame the system for not paying them enough?
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  20122. The real reason work requirements exist is to ensure poor people are forced to accept minimum wage jobs.
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  20123. ​ @PropagandasaurusRex what you're describing is eugenics.
    1
  20124. ​ @twinatoms okay
    1
  20125.  @GalactusOG  i don't know what trump wants at this point.
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  20126.  @literallyanangrymoose7717  about?
    1
  20127.  @bigsprucerabbitry6238  nice.
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  20128.  @davidfaustino4476  okay.
    1
  20129.  @bigsprucerabbitry6238  nice.
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  20130. Exactly.
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  20131. I have inspired empathy. I am not as unpleasant to be around as I was 2 years ago. I used to be a NEET. Then i turned it around and was taking 3 different classes at 2 different colleges at once, working as a cashier at a supermarket, being an intern, volunteering, and helping take care of my sick mom, all at once. That was last Spring. Now, i'm set to take classes next semester. In the mean time, i'll be finding a part-time job, applying to scholarships and grants to afford to finish school, and complete volunteer math work.
    1
  20132. I hope to lose my virginity.
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  20133. ​ @hannahk249 I'm getting better.
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  20134. Exactly
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  20135. Lol
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  20136. ​ @MajorasWrath1 yes
    1
  20137. Just-world fallacy
    1
  20138. That's depressing.
    1
  20139. So in a way making housing a commodity makes homeownership more difficult not less.
    1
  20140.  @traditionaltools5080  do you think we can end homelessness
    1
  20141. You'd have to raise median income to $450,000/yr today for people to be able to afford homes now.
    1
  20142.  @Andi_Doci  lol mate. I'm just smh at realtors asking for 500k+ on a home when half the country makes 35k-40k/yr.
    1
  20143.  @Andi_Doci  that's even worse. My point was that wages are nowhere near high enough to equal inflation let alone exceed it.
    1
  20144.  @Andi_Doci  thanks.
    1
  20145.  @Andi_Doci  okay.
    1
  20146. You're exactly right. Corporations expect low wage jobs to be filled, despite the being dead end and undesirable
    1
  20147. ​ @jermainemyrn19 hello
    1
  20148. LOL.
    1
  20149. I'm a virgin
    1
  20150. Damn.
    1
  20151. Correct.
    1
  20152. ​ @gardenswithsoul  that made me cry.
    1
  20153.  @StoriesByDighe  what's more messed up is how much money McDonald's makes. Their cashiers can make $100,000 a year.
    1
  20154. ​ @euroyankee2003 no you can't.
    1
  20155. ​ @euroyankee2003 wrong
    1
  20156. Republicans don't want to admit success doesn't rely on hard work alone.
    1
  20157. Hahahahahaha I don't know.
    1
  20158. It's funny.
    1
  20159. Sam Seder, The reason Republicans want work requirements for Medicaid is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. Since welfare is better than working a minimum wage job, politicians want to pressure poor people into these dead-end jobs
    1
  20160. He wants poverty.
    1
  20161. You're not seeing the real reason why conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage. Their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They believe minimum wage workers don't deserve to have a living wage, let alone thriving wage.
    1
  20162.  @Dead_Guy_Bob  Exactly.
    1
  20163. People don't make what they are worth they make what they negotiate.
    1
  20164. I don't understand car payments either​ @looking_33 
    1
  20165. It doesn't have to be so low.
    1
  20166. Hookers won't help incels because the affection isn't genuine.
    1
  20167. Beautiful
    1
  20168. That's messed up
    1
  20169. That'd work if politicians weren't corrupt.
    1
  20170. Mainstream media doesn't focus on poor people. Only people who have made it
    1
  20171. Wow
    1
  20172.  @emasbutt  second off many people have a fundamental belief that some jobs have value and others do not. If you watch political debates you will notice that Republicans say a ceo making 32 million-a-year is making too little but a minimum-wage worker making 32,000 a year is making too much. In other words in their eyes unskilled workers provide no value to society and the pay these people receive should reflect that. They do not care if businesses can afford to pay them more. They fundamentally don't believe all jobs should make people middle class or rich.
    1
  20173. Rich people like Ben don't want poor people to have children.
    1
  20174. It's called sub minimum wage
    1
  20175. Yes
    1
  20176. Yep.
    1
  20177. Seems like you agree with me! You've read Herbert gans functions of poverty, haven't you?
    1
  20178. Hmm.
    1
  20179. Wrong take away message.
    1
  20180. That's not enough to support a family. Or even a single person.
    1
  20181.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  but why not though? Why is that unbelievable?
    1
  20182.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  it's not about what something is meant to be, it's about what it is. Tell me, do you believe women deserve to vote?
    1
  20183.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  it requires no skill to be a journalist or actor but you nor society in general Treats them with disdain. The highest paid journalists make more than doctors, but nobody complains about that. But they'll complain about 34k being "too much."
    1
  20184.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  you still don't need to go to school to do either.
    1
  20185.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  because I don't understand you nor America. Poverty is like women's suffrage, a policy choice, not universal law nature like gravity. If we truly thought poverty was terrible we would do anything in fighting against poverty. We did this for women and voting. We changed society to accommodate women. But we have a fundamental belief that women deserve autonomy so we are tolerating these consequences. We are not willing to tolerate the consequences for ending poverty, therefore we do not truly believe in ending poverty. We designed America to deny women voting and changed because we deemed it unacceptable. We treated women like second class citizens and changed. We treat poor/unskilled workers like second class citizens but do NOT change... But we can if we truly wanted to because we changed for women.
    1
  20186.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  I don't recall saying that... I'm saying there's no reason the wage floor has to be poverty level.
    1
  20187. FDR passed over 3000 executive orders.
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  20188.  @JaguarDave  exception. Presidents are not limited in the number of EOs they can put forth.
    1
  20189.  @JaguarDave  the president does not need a supermajority of his/her party to pass an executive order. Although obviously if their party isn't in power their EO will most likely get over turned. If biden at least put forth those 77 EOs he would show Americans he cared. Then political pressure would be on Congress to back him up.
    1
  20190. Because business owners want poverty. Poverty ensures these jobs get done cheaply and quickly.
    1
  20191. ​ @313moneyteamp3 wow
    1
  20192. I was working as a cashier at a supermarket. I made $10/hr. My raise was $0.50. I only worked 28 hours a week because at 32, I'd be eligible for health insurance. My internship paid me $900/semester, and I was taxed on top of that.
    1
  20193. I live in NC and it sucks. I'd need $35/hr to live well above poverty line
    1
  20194. You believe in the fallacy of relative privation.
    1
  20195.  @dannywindham3295  why? It makes no sense.
    1
  20196. 400k is borderline rich.
    1
  20197.  @tureytayno3154  Republicans believe that you reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing.
    1
  20198.  @tureytayno3154  yes. It also feeds their just-world fallacy nonsense. Since America is "already fair," then any failure is a you problem-poverty is from laziness and wealth is from hard work.
    1
  20199.  @tureytayno3154  I have a theory as to why conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage. It is not because it costs businesses "too much" but because it makes meritocracy a lie. If raising the minimum wage really would lift tens of millions of people out of poverty that is admitting that poverty is a systemic problem, that effort alone is not and cannot be enough to succeed/escape poverty, in essence that means effort doesn't matter. On the other hand telling people to simply work harder or accept the way society is shifting the blame to the individual.
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  20200. Exactly.
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  20201. What you're not getting is these conservatives oppose the minimum wage because of just-world fallacy. In their eyes minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low level abilities entitled them to earn. They make what they deserve, they don't deserve to make a living wage, it has nothing to do with business expense.
    1
  20202. I thought the richest Americans pay most of the income taxes?
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  20203. I was debating about that too.
    1
  20204. Most entry-level Jobs offer no health insurance at all or do but keep workers part-time to avoid this. I would mandate all workers, receive a living wage and benefits day one.
    1
  20205. I'm looking to lose my vcard and stop being a virgin incel.
    1
  20206. That's slavery
    1
  20207.  @jessicah3450  that's messed up.
    1
  20208. Exactly.
    1
  20209.  @Mynameismyumame  doesn't change the fact you need six figures to afford college, even more to afford healthcare
    1
  20210. I want to lose my vcard.
    1
  20211. Because of two reasons. The first is they hate policies that pull people out of poverty because they see poverty as deserved. The second reason is that Republicans believe these jobs provide no value to society and the pay these workers receive should reflect that.
    1
  20212. There is no woman who is incel.
    1
  20213. Correct
    1
  20214. Yep
    1
  20215. They're trying to mask their real reason for hating a living wage: they want poverty to persist to ensure there is an underclass.
    1
  20216. Lolol exactly
    1
  20217. ​ @stoodmuffinpersonal3144 yep.
    1
  20218. Because rich people deserve money.
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  20219. This statement I agree with!!!
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  20220. Neither will happen because Republicans and corporations want poverty to exist to force poor people to work for slave wages.
    1
  20221. I'm not that low.
    1
  20222. I made $10.50/hr as cashier. I received no pathway to promotion. No way to pay for college. Zero benefits. I'm 29. Therefore, I'm a loser.
    1
  20223. true
    1
  20224.  @wanderlustandsparkle4395  you're a troll
    1
  20225. Jesus Christ
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  20226.  @christophercarlson7221  poverty is a policy choice. We could eradicate poverty with more robust income support programs. Truthfully, it's about power.
    1
  20227. To force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  20228. ​ @dcorgard yep.
    1
  20229. Except I'm kept part-time, so I can't get health insurance through my job or any other benefits like PTO.
    1
  20230. ​ @Acanthophis ok
    1
  20231. You can't buy intimacy.
    1
  20232. I want a woman to sleep with me who likes mez not because she is paid to do it
    1
  20233. Wow
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  20234. Unfortunately 1. Politicians want to force poor people into minimum wage jobs 2. Many people think poor people don't deserve government assistance
    1
  20235. ​ @1987BillyBob rich can't exist Without poor
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  20236.  @danpowell3953  I'm saying it's about priorities. Democrats don't want to end poverty just like Republicans don't.
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  20237. Republicans hate welfare for the poor for two reasons 1. They morally oppose policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits 2nd point: if robust welfare programs existed, NOONE would work crappy minimum wage jobs or accept below cost of living wages and non existent benefits.
    1
  20238. I did that and I found a girlfriend. But I self sabotaged and she broke up with me
    1
  20239. That's because the rich make most of the money.
    1
  20240.  @tiefensucht  exactly
    1
  20241.  @6starmbn  who?
    1
  20242. ​ @yousifaltigani9838 prostitution doesn't offer genuine affection
    1
  20243. Except you don't have to be motivated to escape poverty. It's poverty- nobody wants to experience it. And work requirements do not reduce poverty at all.
    1
  20244. Lol.
    1
  20245. Wages are too low in this country
    1
  20246.  @daltonnelson94  entry level is an arbitrary title
    1
  20247. You're safe.
    1
  20248. Won't work because hookers don't truly desire you.
    1
  20249.  @Fizzbuzzbizzfuzz2  I've given up since it's been 4 years of failing on dating apps.
    1
  20250. Yep
    1
  20251.  @grayearly3116  I wish I could afford a house.
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  20252.  @grayearly3116  that's even worse.
    1
  20253.  @miscalotastuff733  what the actual fuck? That is SLAVE hours.
    1
  20254.  @miscalotastuff733  that makes my blood boil.
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  20255.  @miscalotastuff733  how would you feel if I had a scholarship to afford college? Or if I made enough money to survive as a cashier?
    1
  20256.  @miscalotastuff733  brother It's either work and die early or don't work and die immediately.
    1
  20257. Yes they are opposed to that. They believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
    1
  20258. He wants poor people to work for slave wages
    1
  20259. Republicans don't want poor people to have children
    1
  20260. Worse is there aren't enough scholarships to help all students
    1
  20261. Exactly.
    1
  20262. People who are unable to work are seen as a burden
    1
  20263. ​ @brians7181 you believe in just world fallacy
    1
  20264.  @brians7181  because everyone can go to college and be a trade worker, right? Because there are just endless career jobs for everyone to move up to, right? Not everyone can be promoted out of a low wage job no matter how hard they work.
    1
  20265.  @brians7181    well. For starters, I returned to community college pursuing an associate of science. I eventually completed an engineering internship (the pay was abysmal). I made $900 for the whole semester. Even being a part-time janitor would've paid more. That internship allowed me entry into a special class/program at a four year school. I got a B in it. I eventually got my grades up. I'm on food stamps/Medicaid now due to (obviously) not being able to be power plant operator or trade worker while attending community college and university full-time between the two schools. I have applied to grants and won some. I haven't applied to any in a while. But I suspect you would be upset at me receiving an educational grant(again) as well, since that is government money like welfare is.
    1
  20266.  @brians7181     I live in US. Life is not easy. Especially because of me losing my mom. I may be 28, but losing her wouldn't have been easy at 18 or 38. Now, I'm struggling even more than when I first returned to school. Me making good grades is even harder now. But I don't want to give up
    1
  20267.  @brians7181  don't need to because you proved my point that you look down on one group and look up to another
    1
  20268. So I'm an incel by choice
    1
  20269. Yep.
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  20270. The problem is I'm a virgin, as are most incels. You can't explain what sex is like to someone who's never had it.
    1
  20271. Because it's about priorities.
    1
  20272.  @MamaKatt  I'm saying politicians can abolish poverty. It simply isn't among their priorities.
    1
  20273. @DarkNJuju  exactly. Poverty is a policy choice. Crime and war are policy choices too. Everything is a policy choice
    1
  20274. Exactly.​ @Saberwolves84 
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  20275. Your first point mentioned why nixon family assistance plan failed. I have a law of economics of my own: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  20276. Correct.
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  20277. ​ @randibgood because if poor people received a guaranteed income. Nobody would work shitty minimum wage jobs.
    1
  20278. Welfare is a poverty trap
    1
  20279. ​ @randibgood exactly
    1
  20280. How? That's evil​ @michaeldalton8374 
    1
  20281. You can't force poor people to not have children. Poverty is not a moral choice or failing. Women enjoy having sex without using birth control. You can't force women to use birth control.
    1
  20282. Because the point is to perpetuate poverty
    1
  20283. Exactly.
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  20284. It's called just-world fallacy
    1
  20285. Okay?
    1
  20286. He makes $10 million a year
    1
  20287. Lol
    1
  20288. Exactly
    1
  20289. Sounds great
    1
  20290. ​ @krox477 yes.
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  20291. Won't work because people don't view UBI as a right like voting.
    1
  20292. Not possible.
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  20293. Not when 99% of living wage jobs require some level of education beyond high school.
    1
  20294. Ok
    1
  20295. Correct.
    1
  20296.  @markjuarez6538  44??
    1
  20297. It's a privilege.
    1
  20298.  @austinbyrd4164  you subscribe to just-world fallacy.
    1
  20299.  @austinbyrd4164  there's no such thing as a free market because employers will always have more power than employees.
    1
  20300. The real political problem with robust welfare programs isn’t the costs, but the benefits. Republicans oppose welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  20301. Republicans want poverty to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
    1
  20302. ​ @noravalkyrie2588 exactly. Most people get no scholarships
    1
  20303. Lol owners take 75% of profits and offer their workers barely survivable wages, crappy benefits, and no job security.
    1
  20304. Yes
    1
  20305. What you're failing to acknowledge Is that this really occurred due to comparative advantage: the government grant paid more than anything jobs offered, rather than Jobs paying more, people opted to exempt themselves from the workforce altogether.
    1
  20306.  @meibing4912  if government benefits can compete with wages, of course people will choose government assistance
    1
  20307. Yep.
    1
  20308. How can a racist, bigoted, trump supporting idiot have fame, fortune, and sex but not me?
    1
  20309. Yep
    1
  20310. It's a sign of supporting rape. Union busting is about power. Preventing workers from making better decisions
    1
  20311. That's messed up.
    1
  20312. Epic.
    1
  20313. It doesn't matter if this is implemented, many conservatives believe minimum wage deserve poverty.
    1
  20314.  @nUmBskulLL  yes. In a way that is worse
    1
  20315.  @nUmBskulLL  yep
    1
  20316. Because sodini felt entitled to sex.
    1
  20317. Your thinking is what's wrong with the system. Government assistance to the poor and disabled aren't "handouts," they're necessary help to those who can't help themselves. You can't force people to work because workfare is unconstitutional.
    1
  20318. The main thing we need to do is make work work. Welfare is better than working a minimum wage job- as long as that remains the case, a welfare state will always be necessary.
    1
  20319. I know enough about welfare.
    1
  20320.  @spiritanimal7516  trade schools are expensive too.
    1
  20321. ​ @JSH-z8j because they're afraid of change.
    1
  20322. Fallacy of relative privation ​ @JSH-z8j 
    1
  20323. Politicians don't want to end poverty because without poverty, there would be worker solidarity. Both cannot exist at once.
    1
  20324. @Jim Bob  Poverty is not defined as having less than someone else, it's defined as having a shortage of resources relative to needs.
    1
  20325. @Jim Bob  I cannot afford $400,000 house making 7.25 an hour. Not even an apartment.
    1
  20326.  @jimbob9407  The implication to your statement is that everyone who works minimum wage can be promoted or gain education. The other implication is you believe that people who work minimum wage are not worthy of living.
    1
  20327. Wow
    1
  20328. I cry because I would love to have that today
    1
  20329. In north carolina, when I turned twenty six, I lost medicaid because I had no kids or disabilities.
    1
  20330. Jesus christ
    1
  20331. Salaries of the middle class used to be 60% the cost of their home. I'd have to make $270,000 to be in the same position.
    1
  20332.  @HeronCoyote1234  Democrats haven't raised minimum wage. My governor, Roy Cooper, expanded Medicaid, but doing so forced me off of private health insurance and onto Medicaid, which most doctors don't take and have too long wait times. I lost my food stamps because I don't work, and I can't get section 8 housing because I'm enrolled in higher education. Democrats want poverty just like Republicans. I can't forgive anyone in office for killing my mom.
    1
  20333.  @Lyrikal757  okay
    1
  20334.  @Keynote24  I don't know how to get financial assistance back.
    1
  20335.  @Pipping-Hot  yeah cause quitting causes change. Idiot.
    1
  20336. I cry reading that.
    1
  20337.  @jackjobs1811  because Fox news only complains about money when it's spent helping poor people. Ignoring that many conservatives are poor themselves yet stupidly vote against their own interest.
    1
  20338. @Rae Tavia It's another capitalist who believes in the myth of meritocracy.
    1
  20339.  @billmelater6470  yes you are owed a higher wage because pay is supposed to be about consent
    1
  20340. I'm an incel. Are you kidding? I'm ECSTATIC for him! I want him to have even MORE sex! I'm still sad I'm a virgin at 28.
    1
  20341. Exactly
    1
  20342.  @gabrielavila4833  exactly.
    1
  20343. Star trek is a post scarcity economy thanks to replicators
    1
  20344. The problem with your thinking is that minimum wage jobs aren't going anywhere. People want there to be cashiers like they want there to be doctors.
    1
  20345. Exactly
    1
  20346. Ok
    1
  20347. Low wage workers have no bargaining power
    1
  20348. @kingtoon22  if high incomes aren't the solution to poverty then billionaires and doctors are poor. Yes, high enough and stable enough income ends poverty. It starts with ensuring all workers can support themselves. As long as corporations are used to filling minimum wage jobs at low cost through poverty, then changing such a system will always incur costs.
    1
  20349. @kingtoon22  all priorities are not created equal. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. If ensuring livable wages was the top priority, then all other priorities would pay the price. Every decision has a trade-off. Inflation poses a real risk, as does unemployment, but being more concerned with mitigating these risks than that of laborers surviving shows a deeper concern for allowing workers to be poor
    1
  20350. @kingtoon22  it's a risk we must be willing to take.
    1
  20351. ​ @manwithnewname and?
    1
  20352.  @manwithnewname  ok
    1
  20353.  @manwithnewname  I don't understand this disdain for fast food workers, acting has no qualifications either.
    1
  20354.  @manwithnewname  it is about disdain. Many people hate minimum wage workers and believe they deserve poverty. They view working in fast food or retail as a punishment. Those two things are the fault of corporations creating dead-end jobs and wanting poverty/illegal immigration to enable having a never ending supply of cheap labor.
    1
  20355.  @manwithnewname  what my core point is is this: poverty exists because it serves several functions within USA society. The first, and biggest function of poverty, is to ensure society's "dirty work" gets done. By "dirty work" I mean the low-paying, dead end, menial, undignified jobs that no one would do if everyone had wealth or skills but is demanded by people anyway. Namely, minimum wage jobs. Rich people have a vested interest in ensuring people are poor so they lack the power to reject terrible jobs. This is the real reason they fight against living wage, welfare, UBI, free college, and unions.
    1
  20356.  @manwithnewname  I agree with you. The government must step in to equalize the power differential between employer and employee. Hell, I recently learned that doctors in Ohio formed a union to combat Big Pharma. I never thought doctors would be in a union.
    1
  20357. Why am I a virgin then?
    1
  20358. I'm a virgin, yes.
    1
  20359.  @LittleAl016  no revolution. Really only two things contribute to billionaires: very strong intellectual property laws and market concentrations(the government doesn't severely limit the number or size of acquistions and mergers).
    1
  20360. I'm 29 and a virgin.
    1
  20361. I want to lose my vcard so much
    1
  20362.  @Jim-tv2tk  yeah it's me.
    1
  20363.  @Jim-tv2tk  nothing I guess I simply lack self confidence.
    1
  20364. Why?
    1
  20365. Don't you think it's messed up that they're forced to work part-time?
    1
  20366. I'm 28 and a cashier at a supermarket. I make $10.50 an hour and I'm forced to work part-time so I don't get benefits.
    1
  20367. I've been rejected by many women for being a virgin.
    1
  20368. It's about priorities
    1
  20369. ​ @peaceandllov no they aren't
    1
  20370. Yep. It's about priorities.
    1
  20371. Wow😊
    1
  20372. Blame inflation.
    1
  20373. Ok
    1
  20374. Corporations want cheap labor, why can't this be reigned in?
    1
  20375. Then replaced manufacturing jobs with service sector jobs.
    1
  20376. The narrative is fueled by just-world fallacy
    1
  20377. ​ @EagleHeart19 exactly
    1
  20378. I know
    1
  20379. USA is trash.
    1
  20380. The point is to perpetuate poverty.
    1
  20381. ​@plantbasedanalyst6263 you believe in just-world fallacy.
    1
  20382. He can do executive orders.
    1
  20383. Wow
    1
  20384.  @seandoherty1507  ok
    1
  20385. ​ @l-b284 exactly
    1
  20386. That's harsh but true.
    1
  20387. It's messed up
    1
  20388. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    1
  20389. Because politicians profit off of people not having healthcare
    1
  20390. Yep.
    1
  20391. ​ @undrwatropium3724 exactly
    1
  20392. @Vesta_the_Lesser yes
    1
  20393.  @albertmooney2628  no
    1
  20394. Let's hope someone can achieve a post scarcity economy like in Star Trek through matter replicators.
    1
  20395. Okay
    1
  20396. My Current Situation Summary: 1. Academic Status: Cumulative GPA: 1.1, Attempted Credits: 89, Completed Credits: 27, Transferable Credits: 15 2. Financial Aid: Denied, unable to access federal work-study 3. Employment: Unemployed, limited to minimum-wage jobs due to full-time enrollment 4. Living Situation: No car, no house, no income, relying on others for support
    1
  20397. ​ @midnitest0rm  lol yeah. Most real relationships are boring: two people like each other, the rest is negotiating.
    1
  20398. ​ @bluntblade6887 yep
    1
  20399. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  20400. Yep
    1
  20401. The problem isn't students, it's corporations demanding degrees for high paying jobs, and politicians wanting to keep poor people out of college.
    1
  20402.  @Mllowr  ok buddy
    1
  20403. I desire sex.
    1
  20404. Yep.
    1
  20405. I'll talk about that and poverty in general. Corporations use temp work, part-time work, and HB-1 Visas to pay people less and less and themselves more and more.
    1
  20406. Yep.
    1
  20407.  @Secretary.of.Edukation  Because he believes unskilled workers don't deserve a decent life
    1
  20408. Exactly
    1
  20409. ​ @Chrisace89  I want open borders
    1
  20410.  @Chrisace89  because I don't see anything wrong with allowing all immigrants into US who desire it? If anything, becoming a us citizen should be a constitutional right like voting is
    1
  20411.  @Chrisace89  I see. So you oppose open borders economically, not morally?
    1
  20412.  @Chrisace89  ok
    1
  20413. I was reading a while back that a more accurate poverty line would put 140 million people in poverty, not 37 million. That's close to half the country.
    1
  20414. ​ @nathanielchieffallo4273  or it helps the poor.
    1
  20415. $12 is still a poverty wage regardless of profit margins.
    1
  20416. Grocery stores pay low wages because consumers demand low prices, government subsidizes Grocery store supply chain industries and SNAP benefits.
    1
  20417. The reason work requirements exist is to force poor people to work for slave wages.
    1
  20418. Look up family assistance plan.
    1
  20419. ​ @trish5111 work requirements exist to force poor people to accept minimum wage slavery
    1
  20420.  @Thingsyourollup  lol
    1
  20421. ​ @ricardocabeza6006 because poverty is unacceptable like rape is?
    1
  20422. Yes
    1
  20423. Politicians know that, they just don't care.
    1
  20424. Let poverty persist
    1
  20425. Yep.
    1
  20426. And $50k isn't a full ride either.
    1
  20427.  @fatherson5907  my state schools are $20k a year. Not much better.
    1
  20428.  @fatherson5907  NC.
    1
  20429.  @fatherson5907  $13k isn't affordable unless you are rich. Not to mention cost of living.
    1
  20430.  @fatherson5907  there are colleges that cost more than that. And $9k is still unaffordable if you're poor like myself.
    1
  20431. ​@killer bunnyz would you be happy If I won a $4.5 million scholarship?
    1
  20432.  @devildoll9929  I'm wondering if your tax dollars Giving students scholarships that large makes you upset.
    1
  20433. @killer bunnyz  thank you for your insight. I know you didn't ask, but this video did touch me. I'm a community College student and poor, at 28. I'm applying to scholarships, I hope I get a big one. The total amount of money for the fields I'm in is $431 million. If I had a magic wand, I literally want 1% of that. 10% is too much money, but I'd use it to focus on getting my associates degree and then bachelor's degree, both in physics, in 5-6 years(not 4, because of other circumstances).
    1
  20434.  @devildoll9929  the 2 biggest ones so far are $670,000 and $4.5 million....
    1
  20435.  @devildoll9929  exactly. Someone(not from america) told me that college in their country was $1,440 for a bachelor's degree. I told them that's less than what I paid for one class here($2,700). I had a grant to cover the cost of that class. But still.
    1
  20436.  @devildoll9929  I cry that USA is wealthier now but has unaffordable college.
    1
  20437. Nobody
    1
  20438. Wow
    1
  20439. Yep
    1
  20440. Damn
    1
  20441.  @michelleespino9814  my three career goals are astrophysics, screenwriting and journalism.
    1
  20442. Why do people buy into his garbage??
    1
  20443. Wow
    1
  20444. Just world fallacy is fueled by emotions
    1
  20445. Most incels are broke NEETs.
    1
  20446. You're right. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. I'm lazy. I just want to have sex. I want women to sleep with me instantly. I just ask women for sex and get rejected.
    1
  20447. I'm happy for you. As a cashier at a supermarket, I'm kept part time so I'm ineligible for benefits like paid time off and paid sick leave.
    1
  20448. Jesus.
    1
  20449. $7.25 is unlivable and is thus 0 anyway.
    1
  20450. How? LOL.
    1
  20451. That's fucked up on so many levels
    1
  20452. Yes. I'll grow up
    1
  20453. Yep. The poor people campaign estimates the true number of people in poverty to be 140 million-43.3% of the population.
    1
  20454. Correct.
    1
  20455. Lie by omission. And $30/hr isn't great.
    1
  20456. Constitutional rights are policy choices, not universal laws of nature like gravity.
    1
  20457.  @dankdaze42069  yep.
    1
  20458. Wow.
    1
  20459. ​ @sfguidry1959  that passed universally?
    1
  20460. Union busting is about power. It's rape.
    1
  20461. Isn't that the Fox News mantra? Stupid speaks but never listens.
    1
  20462. 15 is a guideline and already has been adjusted by MIT living wage calculator. I would put the tears of employees not making enough money to live over the tears of employers not having enough profits.
    1
  20463. I do.
    1
  20464. Biden could end student loan debt, make college free, and break up corporations.
    1
  20465. Usa only cares about the rich.
    1
  20466.  @rbf9701  I live in not only one of the largest cities in my state but the US.
    1
  20467. I'm an incel. At 28 I've never kissed, dated, held hands or had sex. I'm unhappy every day. I don't think I'm ugly or dumb.
    1
  20468.  @FalconFlyer75  well. I don't have skills, independence, or.... Social skills.. Basically I'm dealing with poverty and social isolation. I'd say that's why I don't date.. I don't go anywhere or do anything besides school and work.
    1
  20469.  @FalconFlyer75  okay. It's illegal here in my state... But I'm positive I could find one.
    1
  20470.  @FalconFlyer75  I don't hate women.
    1
  20471.  @FalconFlyer75  I'm making a five year plan. I'm looking at the areas of life I need to change: like me getting my driver's license, car, a full ride scholarship, etc. If I could have anything I'd want a full ride scholarship and use to get my Associate's degree and then bachelor's degree in physics. I'd use it to buy a house and car too.
    1
  20472.  @FalconFlyer75  thank you brother
    1
  20473. You can't pay for college working minimum wage. Not everyone gets promoted.
    1
  20474. Poor people don't need work requirements to be motivated to escape poverty. Employers pay most workers too little to afford healthcare, so politicians are lobbied by employers to restrict Medicaid and force poor people to accept jobs with shitty wages.
    1
  20475. Exactly
    1
  20476. Herbert gans
    1
  20477. not everyone can be a doctor. @ricardocabeza6006 
    1
  20478. stop shaming poor people for not wanting wage slavery. @ricardocabeza6006 
    1
  20479.  @balanc-joy9187  Do you agree with my original comment?
    1
  20480.  @peternennig3408  I like what you're saying but are you responding to me because you agree with my original comment or are you saying that my proposal doesn't go far enough?
    1
  20481.  @SPHYNX_9982  yes. Big difference there.
    1
  20482.  @ccpj0eyb319  you're trolling. I'm done here.
    1
  20483. Exactly.
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  20484. Ok
    1
  20485. You are correct.
    1
  20486. Because of equivalent exchange. In the eyes of conservatives the rich should receive everything of value(chances, money and power) because they provide everything of value. The poor should receive nothing of value(money) because they provide nothing.
    1
  20487. Lie by omission
    1
  20488. The country has too many low wage jobs.
    1
  20489. Well said.
    1
  20490. I've done it
    1
  20491. Biden could wipe out student loan debt. Make college free. Legalize marijuana. Enact Medicare for all. Convert all death penalty convictions into life imprisonment. Release all federal non violent drug offenders. Enact stronger anti-trust laws.
    1
  20492. Ok
    1
  20493. It is the lottery.
    1
  20494.  @kc8644  exactly. The problem is many people think minimum wage workers deserve poverty. Many people are happy that I made $10/hour as a cashier.
    1
  20495. Ha
    1
  20496. Exactly.
    1
  20497. Yep. They aren't bought by corporations.
    1
  20498. The reason republicans hate welfare is simple- because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If no poverty existed, nobody would work shitty minimum wage jobs.
    1
  20499. ​ @boejiden7093 that is evil.
    1
  20500. Are you implying poor people don't deserve children?
    1
  20501.  @bourbonstansell8823  you believe in just-world fallacy. It's a structural problem that the minimum wage is a poverty wage, that healthcare is tied to your job, that you only get benefits from being full-time, that college is unaffordable unless you're rich, that most job growth is in the service industry.
    1
  20502.  @bourbonstansell8823  about the gas: it costs more in gas to travel to/from a minimum wage job than what you make from working. Even working 12 hours a day would not bring you in enough money to break even. So working minimum wage does not pay you enough to afford gas, car repair, or the purchasing or leasing of a car, let alone all three at once.
    1
  20503.  @bourbonstansell8823  so.... I guess I need to take responsibility for my own life. Whining hasn't gotten me anywhere.
    1
  20504.  @bourbonstansell8823  ok. I won't quit on becoming a physicist.
    1
  20505.  @balls433  that can be changed.
    1
  20506. That's a sick mindset
    1
  20507. That is disgusting...
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  20508. No waiter makes 200k. None.
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  20509. 1. what? no reason? how about the fact people are in poverty from low wage work? 2. Why not 40? 3. People aren't paid based on the revenue the company generates, but skill. A cashier isn't making $60/hr even if every Wal-Mart made trillions every nanosecond.
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  20510. @crogers4912 1.  I don't think poverty is "just because". 2. Walmart having slim profit margins has nothing to do with why they pay their workers so little. It's because they're allowed to. 3. Inflation is an acceptable risk with workers gaining more bargaining power. 4. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that you find unacceptable. 5. Our government has spent trillions of dollars on covid relief, pharmaceutical subsidies, tax cuts for the rich, and Middle Eastern wars. USA has the power to end poverty. It is simply not among their priorities.
    1
  20511.  @crogers4912  if this was a free country poverty would not exist. Stop buying into the lie that there are no societal problems, or worse, that any societal barrier can be overcome.
    1
  20512.  @crogers4912  the government has to do with poverty- it isn't among their priorities to abolish poverty. It's why wages are so low, welfare is crappy, etc. I don't have a choice in healthcare,, otherwise I wouldn't have been involved in education, employment, and training all at once last spring and received no health insurance from any of them, nor the government.
    1
  20513. @crogers4912  you really think that anyone can escape poverty? That's it's laziness holding people back? I'm attending community College, pursuing an Associate’s degree in physics. Then I plan on 2 more years at a 4 year university, getting a bachelor's degree in physics. Last spring, I was doing 2 classes at CC, and 1 class at a 4 year university, working as a cashier, being an intern, volunteering, and taking care of my sick mom, all at once. I received no living wage and no health insurance from any of those jobs. I received some grants, but nowhere near enough to cover my mom's medical expenses or housing costs for a family of 4. That's not a moral failing on my part, that's the government making everything too expensive and too restrictive for me to escape poverty.
    1
  20514. @crogers4912  it sounds like you sacrificed alot. I need to work harder. I hope I win $38 million of scholarship awards. I'd be able to become a physicist (with no financial problems)
    1
  20515.  @crogers4912  thanks.
    1
  20516. @crogers4912  that job could help me until I get a scholarship.
    1
  20517.  @crogers4912  okay
    1
  20518. ​ @crogers4912 I'll find a short-term job, but corporations don't pay the full tuition for college. I believe I'll win scholarships.
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  20519. ​@crogers4912 not everyone can increase their skills.
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  20520. Crowder knows but he doesn't want the poor to be middle class or rich.
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  20521. Stop shaming poor people
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  20522. Yes
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  20523.  @Maiyamoto69  I'll focus on myself. Thank you for your help
    1
  20524. Won't solve loneliness.
    1
  20525.  @guarmiron5557  that was deep to read.
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  20526.  @guarmiron5557  I will not resort to prostitution to lose my virginity. Because...I want companionship
    1
  20527. LOL.
    1
  20528. Reagan didn't want poor people educated
    1
  20529. ​ @mggardiner4066 that's messed up
    1
  20530. Because many people think poor people don't deserve government assistance but rich people do.
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  20531. Correct.
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  20532. That are also low paying.....
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  20533.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  still low paying.
    1
  20534.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  if there were enough high paying jobs to go around, then nobody would be poor.
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  20535.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  I'm aware. But that's a separate issue from what I'm saying. I'm saying the wage floor does not be literally below poverty level.
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  20536. Never
    1
  20537. Republicans hate welfare because 1. They oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
    1
  20538. ​ @SandfordSmythe exactly
    1
  20539. Because he believes the lower classes don't deserve a decent life.
    1
  20540. That's literally a contradiction
    1
  20541.  @snoozy04  correct.
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  20542.  @snoozy04  it's depressing.
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  20543. I'm a loser.
    1
  20544. I want to lose my vcard with a woman who likes me
    1
  20545. I want to lose my vcard with a woman who likes me
    1
  20546. But I can't
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  20547.  @TomboyGirl-n8r  I feel like I've missed out on life from not having sex. I'm 29. I know sex isn't some panacea for loneliness but I imagine it feels good.
    1
  20548.  @TomboyGirl-n8r  ok cool
    1
  20549.  @TomboyGirl-n8r  I know you can't buy intimacy.
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  20550.  @TomboyGirl-n8r  do I seem incel?
    1
  20551. They hate poor people.
    1
  20552. ​ @stephenwright8824 yep
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  20553. Inflation is an acceptable risk. What you're saying is it's more important to have cheap prices than workers having a living wage Meaning you don't find poverty unacceptable.
    1
  20554. You must be willing to accept more risks in fighting against poverty.
    1
  20555. Myth of meritocracy
    1
  20556. Too bad that's both survivorship and confirmation bias. I can't live on 10.50 an hour where I live.
    1
  20557. ​ @bohem5568 43% of workers make $17/hour or less.
    1
  20558. Exactly ​ @bohem5568 
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  20559. yes. he IS saying poor people don't deserve a living wage. And so are you. Who made you the moral judge of what others deserve to make? Isn't that what conservatives claim leftists do?
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  20560.  @marchmelloow  politics consists both of economics/scarcity and morals/ideology. Both of those are what the minimum wage debate is about.
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  20561.  @marchmelloow  poor people have no negotiating power on their own. Doctors could make $80/hr to start with, janitors make $8/hr in some cases. I do want the poor to make a living wage, the problem with your line of thinking is that these jobs exist because there is a demand for them, in the tens of millions. What you're saying is you want the jobs to exist, but want the workers to be in poverty. It's almost as if you've read Herbert gans, functions of poverty. Nobody does minimum wage jobs if everyone had wealth or skills, so rich people have no interest in helping everyone obtain these things, in order to force poor people to accept dead end jobs. The obvious solution to this is to pay people more for doing dirty work than clean work, but that isn't supported either, neither ideologically nor economically. So the opposition to a living wage implicitly supports the existence of poverty as well.
    1
  20562.  @marchmelloow  the poor are driven to do those jobs because A. College is too expensive B. Everyone can't be promoted out of a low wage job C. Welfare isn't robust. Poor people don't work for slave wages if welfare is robust, so politicians have a vested interest in restricting welfare as well.
    1
  20563.  @marchmelloow  worth is subjective. Corporations refuse to pay more for American labor because of greed, not because they can't afford it. And many people are brainwashed to not realize this either. Okay, let's say I agree with you, these jobs aren't careers. Can all low wage workers be promoted up to "career" jobs? No. Can they all move on to something else? No as well. No matter how hard one works, many of these people are stuck in this low wage job. You're acting like there are millions of six figures jobs poor people could get and they choose to work at a cash register instead.
    1
  20564.  @marchmelloow  and all the high school and college students that aren't supported by their family and/or have poor family members/can't afford school? They deserve poverty because they're young?
    1
  20565. ​ @marchmelloow then you want poverty. So you either want these jobs to exist but pay poverty wages or not exist at all keeping poor people unemployed.
    1
  20566.  @marchmelloow  again. Everyone cannot be promoted. Everyone cannot go to college either. These jobs need to be filled by somebody. If everyone can't move up or out, then mw jobs become career jobs by design. Everyone in high school or college is not supported by their parents nor is everyone who goes to college young. So what happens then? They just die? They could go on welfare but then they'd be criticized for that too.
    1
  20567.  @marchmelloow  Jesse's whole argument here and yours is that it is acceptable for some people to live in poverty. Jesse is using his feelings to debate minimum wage. He thinks it's morally wrong for poor people to make a living wage.
    1
  20568.  @marchmelloow  I am talking about what Jess is talking about: this argument over the minimum wage is about whether we as a society deem poverty intolerable. All priorities are not created equal. If ending poverty was the top priority, then all other priorities would pay the price. Jess and many others are not willing to pay that price(inflation, automation, unemployment, etc). Therefore, ending poverty is not their top priority. You can sugarcoat it all you want, say they aren't meant to be career jobs or meant to be held by college students. The end result is the same: you, Jess, and many others are arguing for poverty. I don't know how many times to tell you that everyone cannot be a trade worker, nor should they have to be because minimum wage jobs are demanded like all other types of jobs.
    1
  20569.  @marchmelloow  Jess is doing exactly that. He and many other conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage as a moral issue: their ethical code says it's morally wrong to pay poor people more money than conservatives believe they deserve to make.
    1
  20570.  @marchmelloow  it is not bad faith. Jess literally stated he thinks these jobs aren't worth that much. He doesn't oppose this because it takes money out of his wallet or removes his rights, but because he thinks he can decide for poor people what they deserve to make. If cashiers actually did make $100,000/year, he would have a problem with it.
    1
  20571.  @marchmelloow  It is a moral argument to Jess and many other conservatives, it isn't simply an economic one. Many people think minimum wage workers deserve poverty. They view working in fast food or retail as a punishment. It's that simple. That's it.
    1
  20572.  @marchmelloow  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. It is illogical to expect people to use such jobs to gain skills but also admit such jobs do no such thing.
    1
  20573. Half the country makes less than $15/hr. I'd say they are not "entry level" jobs.
    1
  20574. Experience of bagging groceries LOL. I'm sure NASA wants me as a rocket scientist now.
    1
  20575. A minimum wage job is a real job
    1
  20576.  @douglasdingwall1596  there are adults working service jobs. That's the reality. These jobs are not temporary for millions of people. That's reality as well. Most jobs pay crazy low wages. In my state of north Carolina 75% of workers make $43k a year as is... I make $10/hr as a cashier at a supermarket. Most jobs in the whole state pay less than $20/hr. How am I able supposed to afford anything making that? $45k car? $500k house? $18k college tuition? Outrageous healthcare prices as well?
    1
  20577.  @douglasdingwall1596  bagging groceries gives you no skills. You can't afford college working minimum wage either.
    1
  20578.  @douglasdingwall1596  not everyone can be promoted or go to college.
    1
  20579.  @douglasdingwall1596  I desire to be a physics professor and screenwriter. I'm on the fence about being a journalist. The physics professor Jon requires extensive college. The other two professions don't require even a high school diploma. So there's nothing stopping me from quitting my job as a cashier and pursuing screenwriting.
    1
  20580.  @douglasdingwall1596  yeah.... I'm in community college and a 4 year university now(pursuing two majors at once). I just....I guess I can't expect six figures starting out.
    1
  20581.  @douglasdingwall1596  beautifully said. I'm gonna go out and live life. Work hard and stop feeling entitled and bi.tter
    1
  20582.  @douglasdingwall1596  okay thanks.
    1
  20583.  @douglasdingwall1596  I believe I'll escape poverty in the next five years, with a scholarship and being a screenwriter.
    1
  20584. ​ @brianscott6574 My past life 2009-2013- I went to high school 2014-2015- I went to community College, flunked all my classes, lost financial aid, and dropped out 2016-2020- was a cashier. I never upskilled 2021- I was a NEET 2022- I returned to community college part-time, 2 classes in spring, 1 in the Fall Fall 2022- I became an intern at community College, got a job as a cashier. Started doing math volunteer work Spring 2023- I took 2 classes at community College, 1 class at a 4 year university, was an intern and volunteer again, helped take care of my sick mom
    1
  20585. Ok
    1
  20586. I made $10/hr as a cashier at a supermarket at 29 years old
    1
  20587. That's because the problem is corporations wanting cheap labor, not poor people wanting a living wage.
    1
  20588. why is hasan bad? @Tuturial464 
    1
  20589. I've won a few education scholarships and won a screenwriting competition once. I want to change my life.
    1
  20590. At 28 years old, I've never kissed, hugged, held hands or had sex.
    1
  20591. I'm 29 and still a virgin incel.
    1
  20592. I'm still a freaking virgin
    1
  20593. I can't have sex
    1
  20594. ​ @scarletnishimoto7916  exactly
    1
  20595. Too bad the minimum wage isn't for high school kids anymore. It doesn't matter what something was meant to be it matters what it is.
    1
  20596. It would be $61.08 as a percentage of GDP.
    1
  20597.  @BeyondFunction1  true. Because truthfully no cashier is gonna make that much....
    1
  20598.  @BeyondFunction1  you realize how many people would be upset?
    1
  20599.  @BeyondFunction1  because many people(on the right) believe unskilled workers deserve poverty. No politicians complain about doctors making $900,000/yr but cashiers making $15/hr is wrong.
    1
  20600.  @BeyondFunction1  I don't know how you would scale income but I know not everyone would be happy if cashiers made that much.
    1
  20601. Yep
    1
  20602. It is now, times change.
    1
  20603. Then cashiers at chic fil a would be making $100,000 a year.
    1
  20604.  @WeezaY5000  exactly.
    1
  20605. Women can't be incels
    1
  20606. Gross
    1
  20607. It's called just-world fallacy
    1
  20608. Wow
    1
  20609. My $11/hr wage couldn't afford groceries.
    1
  20610. As an incel myself I can tell you why: I'm broke. As a cashier I made $10.50/hr. As an intern I made $900/semester
    1
  20611. @colorbugoriginals4457  yes. I've changed alot in a year: got license, car. Scholarship, full-time enrollment in community college, went on a date.
    1
  20612. Yes
    1
  20613. Correct
    1
  20614. ​ @TheJesselopez1981  that was hurtful to read.
    1
  20615. @Keenan Martin  28. Re-enrolled in community college. Became a visiting student at UNCW(Wilmington). Completed 2 internships. Now, I'm trying to take a break over the summer. My main goal is to earn a full ride scholarship to finish getting my degree. And to get a better job to get a driver's license and car.
    1
  20616. @Keenan Martin  because I'm still a virgin. When there are many, many men who either lack intelligence or ambition that are not. I've met rich men who signed up for a 4 year degree. On a 12 year academic track...one class a Semester. That's even worse to me than not being at school at all. He has a girlfriend. Basically, I'm saying my ambition is of no importance since I'm still sexless.
    1
  20617. @M Noir  I've been told, at my age, women care only about height, money, and status. Since height is all I have(not joking) I remain single.
    1
  20618.  @mnoir7257  I'm 6 ft1 inch. But I should buy new clothes.
    1
  20619. ​ @brians7181 be quiet
    1
  20620. Two party system
    1
  20621. Politicians would prefer people to work in poverty, versus them having more bargaining power.
    1
  20622. Exactly
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  20623. Ok I'll do that
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  20624.  @Noel-vr6ju  my standards were too high.
    1
  20625. Only rich people can pay for college without a loan, unless you think people are voluntarily poor.
    1
  20626. Exactly
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  20627. @A  yes. Fox News doesn't Want me to talk about poverty because I'm actually in poverty and would prove that it's a systemic problem.
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  20628. @A  I'm a cashier, I'm kept part time so I remain ineligible to receive benefits like health insurance. The tuition reimbursement is only 3 grand a year, with college being three Grand a year. the tuition reimbursement is worthless. The 401k is worthless because it's offered at 0% match, not to mention I can never retire on such low wages
    1
  20629. Obama destroyed millions of families' lives.
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  20630. Doesn't negate the need for a living wage.
    1
  20631. Yep
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  20632. Even $30/he isn't enough.
    1
  20633.  @zenden6564  here I am, low income, wishing for a scholarship/full ride to college. It's a crazy country that I live in.
    1
  20634.  @zenden6564  yep lol. I'm hoping I get a huge scholarship so I can become an astrophysicist. I also wanted to be s journalist taking on MSM
    1
  20635.  @zenden6564  I hate MSM. Democrats are cucks for the government and republicans are cucks for the rich/corporations. Nobody speaks up for the poor
    1
  20636. It's disgusting.
    1
  20637. ​ @nickolassmith2781  poor parents don't make enough to afford food.
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  20638.  @B0OBIES  no.
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  20639. Because people believe cashiers deserve poverty wages.
    1
  20640. Republicans oppose a living wage because they believe minimum wage workers are not entitled to higher wages.
    1
  20641. That's messed up
    1
  20642. Exactly.
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  20643. Correct.
    1
  20644. I'm holding myself more accountable. Problem is I'm still a virgin.
    1
  20645. Yep
    1
  20646. Yep
    1
  20647. Yes. Since the 70s corporations have outsourced jobs leaving service jobs in its wake.
    1
  20648. Yep.
    1
  20649. Wow
    1
  20650. What's SOC?
    1
  20651. You pointed why republicans hate welfare: because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. The family assistance plan axed under nixon was for this reason: the income earned from low wage work would be smaller than the income grant.
    1
  20652. Exactly
    1
  20653. ​ @lunarumbreon7699 yep
    1
  20654. Lol
    1
  20655. Where is that?
    1
  20656. I'm on welfare because I make $10.50/hour.
    1
  20657. ​ @pIcklepulla  politicians don't want to end poverty
    1
  20658.  @pIcklepulla  rising worker power, not continued poverty, is deemed unacceptable by politicans. More robust income supports could eradicate poverty if it were truly a priority to politicians.
    1
  20659. @Brett Mitchell  It goes more fundamental than that. It's about priorities. Let me explain. There are things that we all value, and because of scarcity, economics is one of them. And by extension of that money. but there are things that we value even more, such as women having the right to vote. Kamala harris would not accept all of the gold in fort Knox to repeal the nineteenth amendment. Depriving women of voting is wrong. Depriving women of consent is wrong. If politicians are willing to accept money to deprive people of health care. They are saying that that type of deprivation is not wrong.
    1
  20660. It's actually 140 million.
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  20661. Then put the blame on employers.​@mikebrines5708
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  20662. The reason welfare is restricted is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  20663. I wish I could like this 1000 times.
    1
  20664. ​ @caracrabtree715  I agree with you. Too bad most Republicans don't.
    1
  20665. ​ @caracrabtree715  Republicans will disagree with you because they believe in just world fallacy: That if you just work hard you can overcome any obstacle. They also believe the "worth" of a job is based on the skill required, since that's the only objective measure of effort. Since being a doctor requires a lot of skill, no one is upset at a neurosurgeon making $900,000 a year,. But we are upset over cashiers making twelve dollars an hour.
    1
  20666. ​ @banquetoftheleviathan1404 yep
    1
  20667. ​ @SemekiIzuio exactly.
    1
  20668.  @peterponcedeleon3368  hello. Thank you for hearing me out. I know from economics, people are paid based on skills. I'm not a communist, I'm not upset CEOs make more than janitors. But my point is this: minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone can get promoted out of a low wage job. Minimum wage certainly doesn't pay you enough to go to college. And no, there aren't enough scholarships/grants for everyone to go.
    1
  20669. They don't because there'd be mass starvation and it's political suicide.
    1
  20670. They were automating for decades prior anyway. That's why their jobs are " entry level."
    1
  20671. Yep.
    1
  20672. Their jobs don't offer health insurance
    1
  20673. Work...minimum wage jobs.
    1
  20674. That's nonsense as well.
    1
  20675. Lol.
    1
  20676. Because it's about control.
    1
  20677.  @Booofin  that's worse.
    1
  20678. Corporations are the problem, not immigrants ​ @HerMajesty1 
    1
  20679. That's messed up.
    1
  20680. If a house costs $300,000 you need to make over $96 an hour to pay it off 5 years.
    1
  20681.  @patrickbooth5091  but not everyone.
    1
  20682. Any woman can get laid for free. The same cannot be said for straight man. Hopefully, I'll lose my virginity soon.
    1
  20683. You morally believe poor people don't deserve to be middle class.
    1
  20684. Wow
    1
  20685. It's called the fallacy of relative privation. You ignore a problem by pointing to a bigger problem for comparison. It would be like if someone complained to me as police chief that my police department only solves 50% of crimes then I say that's not a big deal because other police departments only solve 30%. So therefore you should be happy that I am not that low.
    1
  20686. Wow.
    1
  20687.  @Turtle1631991  exactly.
    1
  20688. Only people who lack skills would accept minimum wage jobs. So not everyone can work their way up. Temp jobs are dead-end like minimum wage jobs are.
    1
  20689. Yep!
    1
  20690. Would you support $45/hr?
    1
  20691. Then jobs will pay more? The horror!
    1
  20692. Idk.
    1
  20693. Thank you​ @bilbobaggins9451 
    1
  20694. Sick to hear.
    1
  20695. Kyle isn't old enough to be usa president
    1
  20696. With the right steps Elliot could have starred in a movie or TV show and had women drooling over him. He could've been the next Tom Cruise.
    1
  20697. Exactly.
    1
  20698. ​ @jasonfuller2734 it's called being an other wallet warrior. Conservatives ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn(oppose living wage) and poor people.
    1
  20699. Poor people can't afford to run
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  20700. Won't happen because MSM is pro corporations.
    1
  20701. Poor people would have to report the news.
    1
  20702. He hates immigrants​ @mrs8768 
    1
  20703.  @ohhellnooooo8233  ok
    1
  20704. Yep.
    1
  20705. ​ @Veteripont exactly.
    1
  20706. ​ @High-LordHarza exactly.
    1
  20707. ​ @hansfranz8795 exactly.
    1
  20708. ​ @hansfranz8795 I'm crying reading that.
    1
  20709.  @authenticallysuperficial9874  not an option for everyone.
    1
  20710. Exactly
    1
  20711. That's messed up
    1
  20712. As an incel myself, you are right.
    1
  20713.  @BisharpnearOhio  thanks. I'll stay strong.
    1
  20714. ​ @BisharpnearOhio update I'm still a virgin but it's okay
    1
  20715.  @BisharpnearOhio  thanks
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  20716.  @RedHeart64  2 other things that pissed me off: 1. They'll offer 401K as a perk, which is inferior to a pension, but on top of that the company won't match the 401k at all, which makes the 401k offer worthless. 2. Many places will list now hiring signs saying "up to x dollars an hour" but that includes the highest hourly position and not the entry level employees. At a McDonald's I visited the hiring sign said "up to $35/hr," but that pay was the highest hourly position. The cashiers were still making $8.50.
    1
  20717. I agree.
    1
  20718. Wrong answer. He only hates poor people receiving help.
    1
  20719. Republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty
    1
  20720. I'm aware of this. I'll make a video on it
    1
  20721. It sucks.
    1
  20722. Yep
    1
  20723. In the usa as long as you don't fail any class and can pay for them you can get any degree you want. Assuming you're accepted because there's a cartel on all programs
    1
  20724. Exactly
    1
  20725. Yes.
    1
  20726. Yep
    1
  20727. It's called just-world fallacy
    1
  20728. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  20729. Yep
    1
  20730. Exactly.
    1
  20731. That's disgusting.
    1
  20732. That's worse.
    1
  20733. $4 is literal pennies.
    1
  20734.  @jamesdegraff  lol mate. If American workers had enough bargaining power like you claim then the working poor would not exist. You are delusional if you believe the 44% of low wage workers ENJOY poverty. Workers do not and cannot have enough bargaining power individually, only collectively. Collectively, in this case, being the government backing workers up.
    1
  20735.  @jamesdegraff  that's moving the goal post.. Start out ensuring everyone is paid well and noone needs to compete.
    1
  20736. Wow
    1
  20737. Yep
    1
  20738. Exactly.
    1
  20739. Bernie would've passed all 77 executive orders day one.
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  20740. It's a double standard to expect the poor to experience deprivation and hardship in order to work harder but rich people don't need it.​ @michaelg8067 
    1
  20741. Wtf
    1
  20742. I lowered my standards and went on a date.​ @susannegardner3148 
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  20743.  @misanthropyunhinged  i agree.
    1
  20744. That's evil.
    1
  20745. I did the math.
    1
  20746.  @chromo48  true. Hannity believes in just-world fallacy. So math ain't gonna help him.
    1
  20747. If biden passed a 2nd bill of rights.
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  20748.  @hughmiller6389  I know.
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  20749. That's wrong to me.
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  20750. Unions wouldn't be necessary of corporations wanted to abolish the poverty of their workforce.
    1
  20751. You're asking the wrong question.
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  20752.  @valerielhw  nice to see you again.
    1
  20753. Millions. I've never seen poor people on these shows.
    1
  20754. That's messed up.
    1
  20755. Wow
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  20756.  @maryhalverson5713  correct. No-one besides millionaires and billionaires can live the American Dream now.
    1
  20757. All priorities are not created. If ensuring livable wages was the top priority, then all other priorities would pay the price. Everything is a trade-off. Since you're not willing to pay the price, ending poverty is not your top priority.
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  20758.  @SuikaNine  that's a risk you just be willing to take. Otherwise what you're saying is it is better to do nothing while these workers need welfare to survive. Meaning you find their impoverishment acceptable.
    1
  20759.  @SuikaNine  all priorities are not created equal. The truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. It does not matter if half the workforce is fired tomorrow, if that was the risk we as a society would have to take, in order to ensure livable wages, then so be it. Rape is intolerable. So is murder. If poverty was intolerable as well then we would accept whatever consequences in fighting against its existence. Many Americans are not willing to do this. Therefore, poverty is not intolerable.
    1
  20760.  @SuikaNine  okay man. You've proved my point.
    1
  20761. It's about control.
    1
  20762. You have to drag the mass of an entire planet to near light-speed to get it to other interesting points in interplanetary or Interstellar space, and you have to make the Wormhole millions of miles in diameter so that it's large enough so that the tidal forces become negligible.
    1
  20763. Okay.
    1
  20764. Because 20 an hour isn't livable in most states either.
    1
  20765. Yep.
    1
  20766. Exactly ​ @Saberwolves84 
    1
  20767. ​ @Evirthewarrior you seem to not understand: there is a demand for cashiers just like there is a demand for doctors. The jobs aren't going away
    1
  20768. ​ @lilunette9319 exactly
    1
  20769. ​ @radiosonicfan1726 evil
    1
  20770. Won't help incels.
    1
  20771.  @DarthBiomech  I said starship. Not simply a spaceship.
    1
  20772.  @fattuesday33  Exactly.
    1
  20773. Except the rich.
    1
  20774. Yep
    1
  20775. Trump should debate Harris.
    1
  20776. Elliot killed himself.
    1
  20777. it's impossible to quantify the value of any job.
    1
  20778. Wow
    1
  20779. I'll go check his channel
    1
  20780. his point is poor people don't deserve a living wage.
    1
  20781. What is a loser?
    1
  20782.  @emanergza6383  okay. I don't want to identify as a loser then.
    1
  20783.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  McDonald's is a real job. Or are you suggesting they're paid imaginary money and McDonald's is an imaginary business?
    1
  20784.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  You are aware that most people who work in fast food joints / supermarkets are not teenagers right? You are aware that there are not enough management positions for everyone to get promoted to right? You can't honestly expect every worker at Walmart to all become store manager at once.
    1
  20785.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  most Americans are either not qualified or not willing to do the type labor of immigrants do for the type of pay they get.
    1
  20786.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  not willing to work for poverty wages makes you human not incompetent. What next, not wanting to work without benefits like PTO makes you incompetent too? And us government axed free trade school and university making college unaffordable for many millions of Americans like myself.
    1
  20787.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  if you pay taxes it's your money you're getting back, it isn't someone else's.
    1
  20788.  @UniqueBreakfastTaco  If we agree to fund something like it is an entitlement. I agree to fund police. Are police departments commie entitlements? Roads? Bridges? Healthcare?
    1
  20789. No high paying jobs exist for someone without a college degree or union, both of which conservatives oppose.
    1
  20790. ​ @NextNate03 Exactly.
    1
  20791. Greed is disgusting.
    1
  20792. Right.
    1
  20793. Most doctors don't take my Medicaid and I have to wait three months to get simple blood work done.
    1
  20794. The problem is corporations WANT poverty.
    1
  20795. That's me?
    1
  20796. Rich people disgust me.
    1
  20797. ​@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU why do you get to tell other people what they deserve?
    1
  20798. That's disgusting.
    1
  20799. Exactly
    1
  20800.  @Raeinok  lol.
    1
  20801. Wow.
    1
  20802. I want to lose my virginity
    1
  20803. Exactly
    1
  20804. Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills
    1
  20805. Sounds like more money Republicans would call "costly."
    1
  20806. Because it's about deservedness. Many people think poor people don't deserve healthcare
    1
  20807. He can do all 77 in one day.
    1
  20808. What unions are there?
    1
  20809. Lol.
    1
  20810. Yep
    1
  20811. They can't. Unless they have Medicaid.
    1
  20812. I wish.
    1
  20813. Yep.
    1
  20814. Good luck paying for college working minimum wage, let alone healthcare or housing.
    1
  20815.  @dongattojr380  yes exactly. It is a load of crap trying to pay for college working minimum wage.
    1
  20816. I didn't know that
    1
  20817. Being poor isn't a choice. Poor people deserve to have children
    1
  20818. Her organization raised $310 MILLION in less than one MONTH.
    1
  20819. Nothing I do will change the fact that minimum wage is 7.25.
    1
  20820. Just world fallacy
    1
  20821. I also forgot to mention the real reason conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage: they believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  20822. You cannot pay for a car or degree making 7.25/hr.
    1
  20823. Correct. Chic fil a makes enough sales to pay its workers $100,000 a year each.
    1
  20824. There was this ohio pizza shop owner who shared his store's sales with his workers...each made $78 per hour.
    1
  20825. He rejected hookers.
    1
  20826. Steven opposes free college for poor people.
    1
  20827. You're correct.
    1
  20828. I want to lose my virginity more than anything.
    1
  20829. Having a cell phone does not compare to having healthcare.
    1
  20830.  @Melo-Drama  no. I need help to get through school.
    1
  20831. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
    1
  20832. That's messed up.
    1
  20833. $50/day is slave labor.
    1
  20834. 1. Not a bad thing 2. We can do both 3. You can't believe poor women shouldn't have kids 4. No way to enforce that
    1
  20835. Thank you
    1
  20836. Nobody except rich people and corporations who got trillions of dollars in loan forgiveness since 2008. Then they refused to raise wages anyway.
    1
  20837. That made me angry.
    1
  20838. Yep
    1
  20839. Haha
    1
  20840. Awesome!
    1
  20841. Ok
    1
  20842. Yes
    1
  20843. Stop being dishonest
    1
  20844. Correct.
    1
  20845.  @SocialTourist  remember this statement: the truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. It is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that America finds unacceptable. If you refuse to accept the risks with change, then you don't want to change. Inflation, unemployment, taxes and deficits going up are the risks with a ubi.
    1
  20846. Yep
    1
  20847. Corporations want cheap labor. They profit off of poverty and illegal immigration.
    1
  20848.  @smrk2452  wow
    1
  20849. Burger flippers makes it sound like cashiers are worse than rapists
    1
  20850. Because conservatives want wage slaves
    1
  20851. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty
    1
  20852.  @jermainemyrn19  yes. Google it and there is a PDF you can download/view for free, yes.
    1
  20853.  @jermainemyrn19  Adams state University PDF file "functions of poverty."
    1
  20854. ​ @jermainemyrn19 did you read it?
    1
  20855. ​ @tracybuhr9481 I need medicaid and I lost food stamps due to work requirements
    1
  20856. ​ @tracybuhr9481 yep
    1
  20857. Jesse wants an under class
    1
  20858. Many people want cashiers but want them in poverty
    1
  20859. BK makes $10.8 billion annually. McDonald's makes $37 billion.
    1
  20860. Times change. Values do too.
    1
  20861. You're more concerned about profits than poverty.
    1
  20862.  @markchapmon8670  you're saying poverty is acceptable.
    1
  20863. the real debate here is people feeling they have the right to shame poor people for wanting a life they don't "deserve." @man1acz-tx 
    1
  20864. Ubi goes further.
    1
  20865.  @codbdup88  and $0.22/hour for disabled people
    1
  20866.  @julesdalli9716  government gives some attention to the middle class. Not enough though. The bottom line is poor people have problems, and middle class people have theirs, and neither group deserves priority over the other.
    1
  20867.  @julesdalli9716  yes. It sucks. What sucks is the problems of the poor affect the middle class, and upper class too.
    1
  20868. Yep
    1
  20869. Exactly.
    1
  20870. I'm older but I'm poor. I'm incel.
    1
  20871. ​ @lostandfound5145 that made me cry
    1
  20872. @@GrumpyAsura beautiful.
    1
  20873.  @bwofficial1776  minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. A job does determine a person's intelligence or work ethic.
    1
  20874.  @Nillabeans1  that's crazy.
    1
  20875. Correct.
    1
  20876. Republicans want poverty.
    1
  20877.  @JamesDavy2009  I'd LOVE that amendment too.
    1
  20878. Exactly
    1
  20879. Exactly
    1
  20880. Yes
    1
  20881. I need to stop being lazy.
    1
  20882. Correct. Only the rich deserve money in their eyes.
    1
  20883. Exactly
    1
  20884. McDonald's workers could make $100,000/year.
    1
  20885. ​ @cassady7169  you're delusional if you think workers have enough bargaining power.
    1
  20886. I'm nearly 30. I live with my dad while I go to school. Why? Financial aid/pell grants don't cover housing. Rent is $2000/month for a one bedroom. I must make 3x this to qualify. No way I can make $72,000/year with a part time job while in school.
    1
  20887. That's enough for me to afford a car and college....
    1
  20888. Ok.
    1
  20889. Correct.
    1
  20890. That's evil.
    1
  20891. Won't work
    1
  20892. @masonwallberg1217  several states like Mississippi and Florida cut welfare for millions in an effort to discourage poor people from having children and force them to rely on charity-neither goal succeeded.
    1
  20893. @masonwallberg1217  the underlying argument here is that Republicans believe poverty and motherhood are incompatible
    1
  20894. More
    1
  20895. Ok?
    1
  20896. It's circular logic, isn't it? You rent in order to save up enough money to buy a home you currently can't afford. But the rent is so high you can never save up enough money to buy a home, only to pay more rent.
    1
  20897. Holy crap
    1
  20898. That's...depressing. 18k.... After taxes it's probably like 12k. That's more than college tuition itself.
    1
  20899.  @koshintokoshinto  that's messed up as well. If cashiers actually made $50k a year though I'd be happy for them.
    1
  20900. You're probably part time so as to not receive benefits.
    1
  20901. So basically the corporate owners cheated.
    1
  20902. That's messed up
    1
  20903. I make $9,900 a year as a cashier. People tell me I'm lazy for wanting to raise a family.
    1
  20904. What he is saying is he believes poor people don't deserve government benefits.
    1
  20905. It's by design. Welfare is a poverty trap
    1
  20906. Yes
    1
  20907. I'm scared
    1
  20908. Ok
    1
  20909. McDonald's freezes manager pay at $9 an hour no matter if the store makes $100,000 per hour.
    1
  20910. These goons believe only certain jobs are worthy of a decent living.
    1
  20911.  @alexvaraderey  thanks.
    1
  20912.  @TreyRuiz  well you forgot one particle needed to create a neutron: a neutrino! And there are properties of particles other than electric charge. If you were to describe your physical appearance, then there would be more to you than your height. In the same way, particles have more characteristics than electric charge. Here are all conserved quantum charges/numbers: Electric charge Color charge Spin Baryon number Lepton number Lepton family number
    1
  20913. Because poor people have no representation.
    1
  20914.  @plm8830  I don't support mainstream media?
    1
  20915. My dream experiment is a Planck energy collider, it'd have to be the size of the solar system or you need an access to a black hole.
    1
  20916. ​ @UNDERDOG18UNDERDOG18 everyone can't work. Some people need government assistance.
    1
  20917. Yep
    1
  20918. That's terrible.
    1
  20919.  @Missy-Missy1111  thank you
    1
  20920.  @Missy-Missy1111  my replies keep disappearing
    1
  20921.  @Missy-Missy1111  what republicans want to do by limiting welfare and healthcare is to force poor people into low paying jobs and be under the boots of employers. Same reason why illegal immigration is desired by Congress.
    1
  20922. You believe poor people are lazy
    1
  20923. You can't force women to have abortions
    1
  20924. Poor people can't afford to do that because they're poor.
    1
  20925. I'm broke
    1
  20926. ​ @dwaynewindham2937 wow
    1
  20927. But businesses have no incentive to do so because the workers that receive minimum wage are too plentiful in number. When the supply of something is high enough, effectively infinite, then the price drops. when the supply of labor is too high then employers can bid down the price.
    1
  20928. I'm dead ROFL
    1
  20929. Yep.
    1
  20930. Entry level jobs are dead end and give you no skills.
    1
  20931. Lolol
    1
  20932.  @APMTenants  typos happen mate
    1
  20933.  @wrv341  you aren't hearing me. In the 28 years I've been alive my government has managed to spend money on the things that it values the most, more often than not. It has managed, despite deep political gridlock, to spend trillions of dollars on wars in the Middle East, trillions of dollars on tax cuts for the rich, trillions of dollars on subsidies for corporations, and trillions of dollars on COVID aid. Our government could easily eliminate poverty. It is simply not among its priorities. THAT is what the minimum wage debate is really about.
    1
  20934. You need 3 technologies to create a practical starship: 1. Engineered gravitation 2. Faster than light travel 3. Enormous energy source
    1
  20935. Yep.
    1
  20936. It's because the US government believes unskilled workers deserve low pay so it does nothing to raise waiter's pay.
    1
  20937.  @AnnoyedAF  thanks. I hope my life works out in the end. I may be a virgin, but I know deep down there's more to life than sex.
    1
  20938.  @AnnoyedAF  do I seem like an incel still?
    1
  20939.  @AnnoyedAF  stay safe!
    1
  20940.  @AnnoyedAF  you're welcome!
    1
  20941.  @AnnoyedAF  I got my driver's license!
    1
  20942.  @AnnoyedAF  I cried.
    1
  20943.  @AnnoyedAF  thanks!
    1
  20944. update: i went on a date, got my driver's license, returned to school fulltime, am getting a car soon. i am still a virgin, but i know sex doesn't define me and doesn't determine whether i can be happy in life. @AnnoyedAF 
    1
  20945. Only education and responsibility are skills.
    1
  20946.  @LaraEdwards-x5p  I can't see my replies
    1
  20947.  @susanwright4414  I cry.
    1
  20948.  @ryankibler7973  0
    1
  20949. @LaraEdwards-x5p  yep
    1
  20950. @LaraEdwards-x5p  bottom line is this country was and is wealthy enough for her to have not been poor or sick.
    1
  20951.  @claudiastokes6485  it's about priorities
    1
  20952.  @dlmalley8639  i know. but too many rich people stand in his way. My mom is already dead.
    1
  20953.  @claudiastokes6485  yes. I'm poor I could run for office but I don't because I can't stomach the fact I'd have to work harder than the rich to be able to do it.
    1
  20954.  @cordfortina9073  yes. I don't want to give up on life. I think I'll become a good citizen.
    1
  20955. ​ @htsgm ok
    1
  20956. You misunderstand something about conservatives. Republicans believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors asked for $15/hr, the minimum wage would be $80/hr.
    1
  20957. What you're saying is you are opposed to the risks with helping the poor, which means you find poverty acceptable.
    1
  20958.  @abingham3747  poverty is a policy choice. Not everyone can afford college or get a trade job. Not ever can work in the first place. And minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills.
    1
  20959.  @abingham3747  you're saying poverty is acceptable, then.
    1
  20960.  @abingham3747  I didn't ask to name a country without poverty. I'm saying this debate over the minimum wage and poverty is deeper than unemployment: it reveals that you (and america) find poverty acceptable. We don't start from the same place. We don't support all workers making a living wage like we support women's suffrage. Unemployment and inflation have nothing to do with this.
    1
  20961.  @abingham3747  okay then. We're done here.
    1
  20962.  @chaytonrodriguez4468  correct.
    1
  20963. The minimum wage is a poverty wage..that is a system which keeps half the country poor.
    1
  20964. Work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs because welfare pays more
    1
  20965. Exactly.
    1
  20966. Yes
    1
  20967. Bright idea. Where? Service Jobs dominate the economy.
    1
  20968.  @johnmattoon5487  Yes another low paying one if you have no education or skills
    1
  20969. ​ @johnmattoon5487  walmart jobs give you no skills nor enough money to pursue college.
    1
  20970. ​ @johnmattoon5487 ok
    1
  20971. Fallacy of relative privation
    1
  20972. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty.. Rich people use poverty to force poor people to do the minimum wage jobs in society and accept terrible conditions in jobs that rich people themselves would never accept
    1
  20973. I just want to lose my virginity
    1
  20974. Okay.
    1
  20975.  @selenadansfield1305  I know. I'm just saying okay as in I'm in agreement.
    1
  20976. He believes in the fallacy of relative privation my friend.
    1
  20977. So then minimum wage jobs are dead-end. They don't give you skills like Peter said.
    1
  20978. Wow
    1
  20979. Exactly
    1
  20980.  @MissBlueEyeliner  they believe disabled people don't deserve government assistance. They believe they get nothing (financially) in return for helping the poor and disabled.
    1
  20981. ​ @3MorteMorrigan yes
    1
  20982. Do what I did and Google his salary: $10 million a year
    1
  20983. If I made over nine million I'd be out of touch too
    1
  20984. It's almost like Elon hates the poor.
    1
  20985. Ok
    1
  20986. Both parties ignore the poor, so I don't vote.
    1
  20987. Because incels are all men.
    1
  20988. Okay
    1
  20989. Because the way capitalism works is to pay based on skill not productivity.
    1
  20990.  @GlassesAndCoffeeMugs  it's messed up.
    1
  20991. i'm a kissless virgin and sad.
    1
  20992. Exactly
    1
  20993. ​ @ChickensAndGardening  entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. Not everyone can be promoted out of a low wage job or go to college.
    1
  20994. Exactly.
    1
  20995. ​ @Nutty151 okay
    1
  20996. ​ @BSCTrainerRob I'm glad you have such a sick mindset that poor people are lazy animals who need to be treated like dogs.
    1
  20997.  @bru4773  yep. Calvinism is disgusting to me. But these same people have NO FREAKING PROBLEM with rich people receiving welfare.
    1
  20998. Poverty is a POLICY choice.
    1
  20999. But they're rich. They deserved the relief
    1
  21000. Correct.
    1
  21001. ​ @stephenkoranteng6260  I'm here. I'm incel. I'm an hhkv at 28. I've used dating apps for years to no avail. To be fair, I've never asked a girl out, I don't go anywhere or do anything. I have no hobbies. I'm also poor.
    1
  21002. You're right.
    1
  21003. ​ @brucejackson3844 yep
    1
  21004. Yep.
    1
  21005. The real reason conservatives oppose an increase in the minimum wage is it's a moral issue to them, they believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  21006. Because the Debate is ideological- politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
    1
  21007. The government has spent trillions of dollars on wars in the Middle East and tax cuts for the rich. It has also spent trillions of dollars on health insurance subsidies and coronavirus relief. Politicians have the power to eliminate poverty. It is simply not among their priorities.
    1
  21008. Amazing.
    1
  21009. The thing is republicans do not want that either. They hate poor people not existing/moving up financially.
    1
  21010. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  21011. Because the point is to perpetuate poverty, not eliminate it
    1
  21012. I can't afford to own a car without a scholarship I may not win
    1
  21013. No ubi. Ubi would give workers power.
    1
  21014. ​ @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 capitalism is based on the lie of meritocracy.
    1
  21015. Yep
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  21016. Thank you.
    1
  21017. Lol
    1
  21018. It's circular logic, isn't it? You rent in order to save up enough money to buy a home you currently cannot afford but the rent is so high you can never save up enough money to buy a home, only to pay more rent.
    1
  21019. Everyone cannot obtain senior level positions
    1
  21020. Ol​ @crimsonrose 
    1
  21021. ​ @crimsonrose ok
    1
  21022. Exactly.
    1
  21023. Because rich people believe in the myth of meritocracy and equivalent exchange. Meritocracy: if rich people admit being poor isn't a choice then being rich isn't a choice either. That becoming rich is due not to effort but luck, cheating: making their wealth unfair and any amount of effort going towards success pointless. Myth of Equivalent exchange: you provide an enormous amount of effort and you receive an equivalent reward out. Conversely, if you sacrifice something, then you gain something of Equal value in return. But this is wrong, people don't work because it pays off, they work because they believe it pays off but equal effort does not always mean equal gain. This is because effort is within your control where as reward is not.
    1
  21024. Yep​ @realDonaIdTruck 
    1
  21025. Elliot was rich. I am poor. My poverty keeps me single.
    1
  21026. Because they don't want to help poor people because they oppose social insurance.
    1
  21027. I have Medicaid but no food stamps or sectio. 8 housing
    1
  21028. conservatives have an ethical code that says they have the right to tell others how much money they deserve to make. They believe poor people don't deserve a living wage.
    1
  21029. Exactly.
    1
  21030. That's messed up.
    1
  21031. Yes
    1
  21032. Yep.
    1
  21033. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  21034. Lol some incels have gotten laid but are still incel. Not all incels believe they are owed sex.
    1
  21035. @TheShauNanigans  thank you.
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  21036. @KimTyssowski  yes 150 million poor people are powerless
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  21037. @gregrice1354  corporations, bankers and politicians ignore poor people. And because I'm poor, I can't afford to run for office. I can vote, but my vote means nothing.
    1
  21038. Only millionaires and billionaires can afford to visit brothels regularly.
    1
  21039. Most incels are NEETS or minimum wage workers and are poor.
    1
  21040. Ok
    1
  21041. Correct.
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  21042. So grocery stores intentionally create a business model based on poverty wages?
    1
  21043. Lol if they could get better pay they would have already and not been a cashier.
    1
  21044. ROFL.
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  21045. They believe cashiers and unskilled workers deserve poverty.
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  21046. They screw you other ways as well. In my state there are now hiring signs everywhere. I went to a McDonald's the other day and the sign said "now hiring up to $35 an hour." But that pay includes the highest hourly position, assistant manager. the cashiers are still making $8.50. Employers offer "tuition reimbursement" but neglect to mention that it's at most two grand a year., Which is nothing since college is 10 grand a year and triple that out of state.
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  21047. with just a 3% inflation adjustment, a living minimum wage would be around $45/hr today.
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  21048. I always compare poverty to women's suffrage. We as a society have the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, that it is a right that they are supposed to have, so we ensured that they have that right. That's it. Our Society is structured around that simple fact. Wages are not like the weather: Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed that no worker deserved to be poor then no worker then.....no worker would be poor. That's it. We would raise everyone's wages to an acceptable level and deal with the repercussions whatever they might be. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal economic forces, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  21049. ​ @happyangie674 exactly!!
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  21050. That's crazy.
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  21051. If we truly cared about ending poverty, then we would tolerate whatever consequences in fighting against their poverty. We do this for women and voting but we have a fundamental belief that women deserve voting, so we are willing to tolerate these consequences. We do not like to tolerate the consequences for ending poverty. Therefore, we do not truly believe in ending poverty. #2. Voting laws are not like the weather, something you observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed women deserved voting, our society would be structured around that simple fact. A living wage minimum wage is the same way. A living wage isn’t like the weather, something you observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed everyone deserved a living wage, our society would be structured around that simple fact. A living wage would be like women voting, just an acceptable part of life. Poverty, like women’s suffrage, is a policy choice, not a law of nature like gravity. Politics isn’t about what we can and cannot do, it is about the price we are willing to pay, the consequences we are willing to tolerate. Ending poverty is within our power, it is not among our priorities. Everything else is a policy choice as well, from crime to war. But like poverty, we aren’t unified in ending it. We are unwilling to pay the price in ending poverty, homelessness, and hunger. We’re unwilling to pay the price in stopping crime, global warming, and war. If we’re not willing to pay the price, we don’t want to change. We’re unified in providing women voting but we’re divided when it comes to providing people with anything else. But it doesn’t have to be that way, because it's not that way for women. We have the capacity to change, to be better, because women are proof. Women are proof of how wonderful the world can be if we saw each other as deserving. I wish we had more compassion.
    1
  21052. ​@Karla McCullough that's messed up.
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  21053. Ok
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  21054. This is something about American politics. Worker solidarity and poverty can not both exist at once. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that corporations find unacceptable.
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  21055. You shouldn't need to take on debt for college in the first place. That's like telling rape victims to get over being raped rather than believing rape in the first place is wrong.
    1
  21056.  @mofishin2648  Noone would take on debt if they could afford otherwise.....
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  21057.  @mofishin2648  there would be no outstanding payments for loans if people could afford college without loans.
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  21058.  @mofishin2648  biden could cap tuition prices and make college free at once. He could enroll all universities and students in federal loans program whose coverage is capped at $10k. Then have the loans forgiven. Loans could even cover living expenses. Loans could only be granted to colleges that stray from median tuition by a small amount. So if a college charges 50k a year? No coverage. But if it's maybe 8k to 12k a year, coverage.
    1
  21059.  @mofishin2648  it's within his power right now. I don't understand why you think it's unrealistic. That's like saying the federal reserve printing money is unrealistic. Side note: simply printing tons of money and handing it out? That's called quantitative easing.
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  21060.  @mofishin2648  what is unrealistic about it? You're aware the government used to heavily Pay for college right? States used to pay 90-95% of tuition. Now that's mostly on the students. There are other ways to cover college costs and/or reduce debt.
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  21061. Because poverty will take a smoke break in the meantime
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  21062. No.
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  21063. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
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  21064. I think about losing my virginity everyday. I've thought about it everyday for the past 6 years. I've never kissed, I've never held hands, I've never hugged a girl, nothing. I obsess over sex everyday thinking it will make me happy.
    1
  21065. Times change
    1
  21066.  @THATBOISHAD  lol exactly.
    1
  21067.  @THATBOISHAD  yep
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  21068. Ok
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  21069. Making ten million a year too
    1
  21070. Yes.
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  21071. People on welfare do work. They make more money working part-time receiving welfare vs working full time, and not receiving welfare. republicans don't want to admit that the system is the problem because they believe in just-world fallacy.
    1
  21072. Correct.
    1
  21073. Yes.
    1
  21074.  @jehandesains8674  yeah I'm an incel. I'm not physically disabled in any way... And using a hooker doesn't solve the problem of no woman loving me.
    1
  21075.  @purumr  right...
    1
  21076. I'm an incel
    1
  21077. They do because of poverty
    1
  21078. Why can't men get laid?
    1
  21079. if only conservatives believed this.
    1
  21080. Because it's for poor people.
    1
  21081. ​ @godsire6217  I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
    1
  21082. They do work
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  21083. I'm 29 and a virgin. I'm incel.
    1
  21084. My life is over.
    1
  21085. Why can't I lose my virginity? Why?
    1
  21086.  @Homo_sAPEien  you're right. Sex isn't a right like voting. I guess I should grow up. I don't want to use an escort because she doesn't like me
    1
  21087. Correct. These hosts make millions too.
    1
  21088. Why not?
    1
  21089. Lol
    1
  21090. I'm a cashier at a supermarket, I ironically need food stamps to afford food, where I spend it right back at that same store.
    1
  21091. Grocery stores make 75-78% of their sales from food stamps.
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  21092. Prostitutes will not cure me being an incel.
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  21093. Correct.
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  21094. That is disgustingly low.
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  21095. Whenever the government helps rich people it's capitalism. But when it helps poor people it's communism.
    1
  21096. I'm nerdy and smart, but I'm broke and have no car
    1
  21097. I believe you
    1
  21098. Yep
    1
  21099.  @cromemako83  do you believe that?
    1
  21100. Poverty
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  21101. Correct
    1
  21102. What ben won't say is the only value of a job is its skill.
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  21103. The problem with UBI is it empowers workers. And this type of program would never be implemented in many southern states because of Protestant work ethic- many religious people want the disadvantaged to "earn" government assistance, even if such restrictions cost more money than they save.
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  21104. Exactly! I support it!​ @sawtooth808 
    1
  21105. You're more bothered paying $11 for a big Mac than abolishing the poverty of millions.
    1
  21106. They buy into just-world fallacy.
    1
  21107. ​ @theravyshow2570  I'm a male incel
    1
  21108. ​ @gridtac2911 constitutional rights are policy choices... Healthcare and welfare can be rights if we wanted it to be so.
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  21109. It's based on that.
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  21110. Exactly
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  21111. I've been lazy
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  21112. Yep
    1
  21113. Jesus.
    1
  21114. Right.
    1
  21115.  @starmkd18  that's depressing. And disgusting.
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  21116. I'm a poor incel.
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  21117. Ok
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  21118. Not real desire.
    1
  21119. That's disgusting.
    1
  21120. ​ @shigshug8581 that's messed up.
    1
  21121. ​ @mattrg320 wow
    1
  21122. ​ @markclipsham9199 ok
    1
  21123.  @jukahri  correct
    1
  21124. Charging outrageous prices for college is a bad decision on the part of politicians, not students who wish to escape poverty.
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  21125.  @christophermoshier  yes. They do
    1
  21126.  @christophermoshier  education is a policy choice, as is everything else in politics like poverty and healthcare. Lawmakers could outlaw tuition being raised above a certain amount or percentage. They could literally demand tuition be a narrow band around the median price, say $10,000 or so. Or tie this to funding provided for schools. It's ultimately about priorities. Whether lawmakers want to live in a country, where only the rich can graduate school debt free.
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  21127.  @christophermoshier  in the actual world every political issue is a policy choice.
    1
  21128. Exactly.
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  21129. That's messed up.
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  21130. They also believe only certain work is valuable.
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  21131. None of them complain about a neurosurgeon making 900k a year but I cashier making 32k a year is backbreaking.
    1
  21132. You can't buy intimacy
    1
  21133. Amazing
    1
  21134. That's an episode on its own
    1
  21135. Escorts don't offer genuine affection. I'd still be unable to sleep with a woman who liked me.
    1
  21136. I'm happy he lost his virginity as an incel. However, I'm more miserable since I still haven't lost mine.
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  21137. Gross.
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  21138. I agree.
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  21139. Wow.
    1
  21140. That was enough money to end poverty
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  21141. ​@robupsidedown the government could eliminate poverty with more robust income support programs, if it was a true priority.
    1
  21142. Schiff ignores poverty.
    1
  21143. Like me
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  21144. ​ @zephyrheid conservatives want to see poor people suffer. It isn't about the costs.
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  21145. Rich people don't want universal healthcare
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  21146. If you lack of health insurance I can understand that.
    1
  21147. Poverty is a policy choice
    1
  21148. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  21149. ​@Mike P He believes in just world fallacy. Let that idiot talk to himself.
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  21150. They don't believe poor people deserve to be middle class or have government assistance
    1
  21151.  @crystalh5920  just-world fallacy
    1
  21152. Yep.
    1
  21153. Yep
    1
  21154. That is fucked up.
    1
  21155. Gotta love Calvinism right?
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  21156. The problem is corporations do NOT want to do this.
    1
  21157. Yep​ @JamesDavy2009 
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  21158. ​ @JamesDavy2009 epic
    1
  21159. Americans oppose policies which reduce poverty
    1
  21160. Exactly
    1
  21161. He believes fast food workers deserve poverty ​ @zeswutz 
    1
  21162. Unless you eliminate poverty many poor people will still not get good grades in high school. So this system won't work.
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  21163. Half of Americans are employed in low wage jobs. There aren't enough positions for them to move up to, and they certainly don't make enough to graduate college debt-free.
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  21164. I'm a cashier making $10.50 an hour. I literally cannot afford to eat. Or buy clothes. That's society's fault for allowing such sub-par wages.
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  21165.  @aking4130  it's not as easy as you claim. And it sounds like you think poverty is okay.
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  21166. And no amount of time spent being a cashier gives you skills or experience to make more money.
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  21167. Unemployment is an acceptable risk
    1
  21168. ​ @rodintremboy6459  exactly
    1
  21169. Wow.
    1
  21170. Wow
    1
  21171. The middle class, not the poor
    1
  21172. I want to lose my virginity before I turn 29.
    1
  21173. Exactly
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  21174. Yep😊
    1
  21175. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
    1
  21176. If something is scarce then it can't be a right.
    1
  21177.  @metalvideos1961  I've known people who worked 105 hours in one week.
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  21178. They are. But Republicans don't want "unskilled" workers making a living wage.
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  21179.  @burning4rmwithin  the point is welfare pays more than minimum wage jobs, so poor people have no financial incentive to work them. So the government tries to force poor people into minimum wage jobs with work requirements or kicking people off of Medicaid
    1
  21180.  @burning4rmwithin  no because many people fall on hard times. You can't limit poor women from reproducing.
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  21181.  @burning4rmwithin  that won't stop poor people from having children or corporations having cheap labor
    1
  21182. It's called just-world fallacy
    1
  21183. It's called hating the poor.
    1
  21184.  @Peter_Scheen  i thought it was indifference too but how they approach poverty shows their contempt for poor people.
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  21185. Poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
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  21186. American People get upset over cashiers wanting $50,000 but are fine with CEOs making $50 million... I am American btw
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  21187. Republicans hate welfare because 1. They oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
    1
  21188.  @jsebby2284  and? 35k isn't alot when homes are 300k-500k and college is 10k a semester. Even cars are over 45k.
    1
  21189.  @jsebby2284  44% of wage earners make 35k a year or less. Homes are that expensive now yes. 10k is still unaffordable for most Americans, and that's just the tuition. 25k is expensive as well. Ah yes...if people could control prices a new home would be $5.
    1
  21190.  @jsebby2284  just because its salary is high relative to other countries means nothing if it is low within the U.S.. If school A performs better than all other schools that's great...still doesn't mean students within School A are performing well compared to each other.
    1
  21191.  @jsebby2284  61k is still not as high as you make it seem. If you need a loan to buy something that means you can't afford it lol.
    1
  21192.  @jsebby2284  I'm saying usa having a high median income is important but that by itself is not a good metric of whether or not USA workers have a high standard of living.
    1
  21193.  @jsebby2284  many jobs are part-time because benefits are given if you work full- time.
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  21194.  @jsebby2284  25k is expensive when you include loans for healthcare, college, etc.
    1
  21195.  @jsebby2284  i know it is. I'm saying that's not a good metric by itself. Even if median income was somehow $500k that means nothing if housing and healthcare cost far more than that.
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  21196.  @jsebby2284  your replies just loaded. I never claimed everyone has student loans. I said if you need a loan for something then you can't afford it..... That's not debatable. Workers used to be able to buy a home that was only 2-4 times the median income. Bottom line is 44% of workers make 35k a year or less. 76% of workers live paycheck to paycheck. The minimum wage in this country is a pathetic $7.25 an hour- literal pennies. Over $1 trillion in student loan debt. Over 104 million people are poor or low-income. America is not giving half its population this great standard of living.
    1
  21197.  @jsebby2284  25k is alot when you make $7.25 an hour.
    1
  21198.  @MastaBlastaS99  you guys also have never heard of at-will employment. You can be fired for any reason in USA...
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  21199. I have already lost both my mom and 20s, and still don't have a bachelor's or even associate degree after 12 years. Without an inheritance, trust fund, subsidy or bailout I'm starting from scratch. I am not willing to be in poverty anymore, because it means I lost both my mom and 20s for nothing.
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  21200. Yes because the poor and middle class buy into the myth of meritocracy. The idea that anyone can be rich one day.
    1
  21201. Greed knows no bounds.
    1
  21202. Wow.
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  21203. I'm an adult, i lost my food stamps due to the work requirements.
    1
  21204. Rich people don't want universal healthcare because it gives workers more power.
    1
  21205. I don't vote
    1
  21206. Prostitutes don't offer genuine affection
    1
  21207. I'm still incel
    1
  21208. Correct.
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  21209. Nordic Model is more accurate.
    1
  21210. Wow.
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  21211. Lol too bad. Times change and so do policies.
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  21212. It's a policy choice to allow poverty.
    1
  21213. Just-world fallacy.
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  21214. It's why I don't vote as a poor person.
    1
  21215. they believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty.
    1
  21216. Yep
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  21217.  @ballsdeep5336  correct.
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  21218.  @jonpark6650  If they weren't motivated by greed they wouldn't be scared to report on all of the poverty and homelessness, instead it's either Ukraine or inflation("more pressing" issues). And I don't even remember seeing a formal debate between liberals and conservatives...at all...like presidential debates. That would really put trust back in the media. But neither side is honest.
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  21219. Exactly.
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  21220. Yes
    1
  21221. ​ @TheNinthGeneration1 it won't
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  21222. I have already lost both my mom and 20s, and still don't have a bachelor's or even associate degree after 12 years. Without an inheritance, trust fund, subsidy or bailout I'm starting from scratch. I am not willing to be in poverty anymore, because it means I lost both my mom and 20s for nothing.
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  21223. I may be American but I'm poor. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier and now I don't work at all.
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  21224. That's messed up
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  21225. That's messed up
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  21226. Lol
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  21227. So this is a moral issue to you then: you think poor people don't deserve this much money. And the overall wage increase was in a separate bill.
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  21228. Because politicians want to force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs.
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  21229. It's about priorities. It's about what we value the most. And we don't value ending poverty.
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  21230. Correct.
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  21231. Lack of compassion
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  21232. Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills
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  21233.  @ddc163264  being a cashier does not increase your level of education or responsibility. Being a janitor doesn't. Being a barista doesn't. People act like cashiers teach you how to become doctors, when such jobs do no such thing.
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  21234.  @ddc163264  you just steelmanned my argument. At what point did you work as a janitor or cashier where your pay exploded to the level of engineers? Doctors? Their wages never increase no matter how long someone is employed there. Such jobs give you no hard skills. And you just admitted most people don't want to do these jobs but that they're essential jobs as well. It makes no sense to me for society to consider cashiers worthless but oppose automation, but also worthwhile but oppose living wage.
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  21235.  @ddc163264  I'm a very poor community college student. I'm relegated to low paying, dead-end jobs and internships until I not only graduate community college, but transfer to university and graduate from University with a physics degree.
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  21236. Ok
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  21237. If the people are poor, yes. Conservatives believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitled them to earn.
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  21238. You can't. Compassion is something many people lack
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  21239. It's two fold. 1. Politicians oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Politicians have no desire to end poverty, because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers
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  21240. I have empathy. I'm a socially inept virgin. I want to lose my virginity.
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  21241. They are yes.
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  21242. Ok
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  21243. That's messed up
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  21244. That won't work here. Usa high schools are income segregated due to being funded primarily by property taxes.
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  21245. Not everyone can move up or on. There are systemic problems.
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  21246. @abandoned neo  I left my minimum wage job recently. I've been out of a work a month. I want to be a science journalist/tv reporter. It doesn't require a degree . But alot more responsibility than being a cashier.
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  21247. LOL
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  21248. Just-world fallacy.
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  21249. ​ @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231  So does capitalism
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  21250. ​ @LeelosAdventure yep.
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  21251.  @IndyAvocadoKid  yes.
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  21252. We can't know since the owner didn't release his operating costs.
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  21253. A cashier could work 80 hours a week and not make 10% of even $1 million, let alone $1 billion.
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  21254. A cashier working 100 hours a week will make less than a doctor who works one hour a week.
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  21255. They'd have to pay cashiers $100,000/yr....
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  21256. Yep.
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  21257. It's called just-world fallacy.
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  21258. Incorrect. All jobs deserve to be respected. And even if i agreed with you... This country is replete with low wage service-based labor and college is unaffordable. Most of these people are just plain stuck. And if these workers were paid based on productivity they'd make far more than 7.25/hr.
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  21259.  @CS-oh3sx  dumb argument.
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  21260. All jobs are worthy not just some.
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  21261.  @CS-oh3sx  yeah. That is what I said.
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  21262. It's called fairness and paternalism.
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  21263.  @janerkenbrack3373  you're right. If I truthfully was upset at my virginity I would've used a hooker a long time ago. I'm upset at my failings as a human.
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  21264. Propaganda and hatred.
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  21265.  @russellward4624  being a cashier is a dead-end job
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  21266. Me too. I'm poor and can't handle it.
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  21267. I'm happy for him as a incel. I'm happy people have sex. I'm sad I don't have it.
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  21268. Our government wants to keep the poor poor.
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  21269. Even $200,000 isn't a full ride. Pell grants used to cover 70% of the costs. Now that's on the students. Scholarships aren't guaranteed and are rarely enough.
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  21270. I'm an incel. I have never kissed, held hands, hug the girl, I held sex at 28 years old. Yes I'm a man because no woman can be incel. I don't socialize / can't because I have no license / car / money. I basically lack job skills and independence, which in turn contributes to my poverty and social isolation.
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  21271. My appearance is completely normal, actually a few women have told me I'm attractive. I've never been called an incel in my life for how I look. So that tells me that it's not my appearance that's holding me back, it's my personality.
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  21272.  @rosesmith6925  I'm just saying I'm an incel because I'm frustrated at being a virgin. Most people I know lost their virginity before 21. Here I am 28.
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  21273.  @rosesmith6925  I've even met men with over 100 body count by 22 years old.
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  21274. Correct.
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  21275. I used tinder for years to no avail.
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  21276. Corporations support immigration because they want cheap labor forces.
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  21277. When rich people want money they're given a blank check but when poor people want money they're given pennies with strings attached. That's what our government is saying. Poor people are treated like dogs
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  21278. That's messed up
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  21279. That isn't the way government spending works
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  21280.  @Its_Time_to_Wake_Up_13  it's ok. I just hate the scape goating
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  21281. that is messed up.
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  21282. Yep.
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  21283. I'm a male virgin at 28.
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  21284.  @uerivbuywecrwefdqervwrrwgv9843  I know. Otherwise there'd be no poverty already.
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  21285.  @Beamshipcaptain  I agree.
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  21286. ​ @anfinsons thank you.
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  21287. I lost my grant allowing me to go to school because I needed good grades and 50%completion rate. I will have to drop out of community College soon.
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  21288. Yep.
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  21289. That's hell.
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  21290. I make $10.50/hr. I can't afford to travel and do what you suggest.
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  21291. ​@wayneanderson8034 I'm here. I'm at community college now, I've gotten financial aid to continue schooling. I applied to 316 scholarships but didn't win any. I won't give up on school.
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  21292. And you can't pay someone to like you. I want to lose my virginity, but a prostitute doesn't offer me affection.
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  21293. i am sorry you went through that. And i don't understand the motive of certain citizens. @LBKXiLo 
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  21294. @jesuscornstorm737  I don't want crime. I just don't know how to end crime or create world peace
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  21295. I make $10.50/hour as a cashier and need welfare
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  21296. Politicians don't want to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers. 😊
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  21297. Yes. You are correct.
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  21298. I'm still a virgin
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  21299. Yes. To rich people.
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  21300. It's called just-world fallacy. Conservatives believe if you can't succeed on your own it's your fault not society's.
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  21301. If conservatives admit that society is the problem then they're admitting effort doesn't matter.
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  21302.  @LyonHeart888  damn
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  21303.  @Boris80b  yep.
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  21304. ​​ @bananewane1402 I hope my comment doesn't get deleted and you read this. I read your comment twice. I identify as an incel because I'm 29 years of age, I have NEVER had sex, NEVER kissed, held hands, OR hugged a woman ONCE. I blamed women for this but it hasn't helped me. I want to lose my vcard before I'm 30. I know me sitting in the house, having no job, no social life, no hobbies doesn't help me. And as a straight man, dating/sex apps don't work for me, and I can't get into swingers clubs.
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  21305. I don't want to do anything bad against women. I just want to lose my virginity.
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  21306. Okay ​ @whale-psychiatrist 
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  21307. ​ @bananewane1402 okay
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  21308. ​ @whale-psychiatrist  Prostitution is expensive and illegal. I make $10.50/he as a cashier. Even if prostitution was cheap and legal and safe, then i still wouldn't use it because i want women to have sex with me because I'm paying them.
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  21309. Rich people deserve government assistance
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  21310. Poverty keeps people in line.
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  21311. I'm taking responsibility for my own life, but I'm scared of having sex.
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  21312. Exactly.
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  21313. It would have to be more than 38/hr because most minimum wage employers work you 20-25 hours a week, so you aren't eligible for benefits.
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  21314. @mike  you're right I've been lazy.
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  21315. @mike   @Caleb Carroll  i'm 28. Years 2014-2015 i went to community college, was lazy and failed almost every class, lost financial aid, then dropped out. 2016-2020: i was a cashier at various places. 2021: I was a NEET 2022: returned to community college part-time, started working as a cashier again. 2023: Last spring, did 3 classes at two different colleges at once(2 at my community college, one at a 4 year university i got accepted into), worked as a cashier, was an intern, volunteered doing math research, and helped take care of my sick mom all at once. I do not know if you consider me a loser for having worked minimum wage as an adult. Now, i don't work as a cashier anymore. I'm focused on applying to scholarships, finishing my associates degree and volunteerism. I also desire to be a science journalist.
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  21316.  @mike-gv2ol  nothing I desire is going to come overnight: getting an Associate’s of Science degree, becoming a journalist/tv reporter, being independent. Yet many people in this country do not have to work as hard as me and have had greater success in life.
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  21317.  @mike-gv2ol  I decided I wanted to finish my degree, so I've been applying for scholarships recently. And on the side, teach myself pre calculus. I'm registered for classes next semester. I also applied for journalism and news media jobs....starting pay...$16/hr.
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  21318.  @cassady7169  Okay.
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  21319.  @mike-gv2ol  if you believe that, then you are saying the 140 million people in poverty are all lazy.
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  21320. @mike  okay then. But you gotta understand where I'm coming from. To be a physicist requires over 16 years of training. To get even close. I need a physics degree on the associates level, then bachelor's level. That is 5 years of schooling. While I'm pursuing this, I cannot be a high level trade worker. I've looked it up. Power plant operator, plumber, electrician, heavy equipment mechanic. I cannot pursue both a high-level career full-time and school full-time at once. It's why I chose to work minimum wage (I quit recently). It's the only way I could have enough energy and time left over for school. Now, you're saying a cashier's job isn't going to pay me enough to live ever so I need to try harder. Work, and go to school, both at once.
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  21321.  @mike-gv2ol  you don't believe people deserve second chances? Nobody is perfect.
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  21322. @mike  I've accepted it. If I don't get a full ride scholarship in the next 2 months, then I'll give up on school and life, too. I just don't understand why you refuse to acknowledge systemic problems.
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  21323. @Cassady  no I don't, Cassady. I told you poverty is a policy choice, and you disagreed.
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  21324.  @mike-gv2ol  Okay. They're earned.
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  21325.  @mike-gv2ol  I'll accept it. Life isn't easy. So I'll choose to be more realistic and work towards the journalism career.
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  21326. @mike  I believe I will. I was able to win a screenwriting competition about 2 years ago, and was offered screenwriting jobs. I declined because I was scared of doing more work. I was able to land a research position with the department head of physics at nc state I do believe I can succeed, just not overnight.
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  21327. @mike  I won 17th place out of the 85 contestants, and the research position I landed despite having a 0.867 GPA(I outperformed the other graduate students in physics at nc state). Most of those students are PhDs with 4.0 GPAs.
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  21328.  @ubereats3048  Okay.
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  21329.  @ubereats3048  only two other careers i desire: science journalism/tv reporting and screenwriting. Both of these require no college education or any job experience at all.
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  21330.  @ubereats3048  Okay. You're right, i'm personally responsible for failing.
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  21331.  @ubereats3048  I'll research on how to be a science journalist and tv reporter.
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  21332.  @ubereats3048  i hope you don't believe all poor people are lazy.
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  21333.  @erikh5512  then the economy would collapse and CEOs make nothing.
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  21334. Because they were never poor themselves. And Because poor people can't afford to run for office.
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  21335. ​ @prancer1803 ok
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  21336. LOL you see the circular logic too?? First it's "get a better job!" Now it's "nobody wants to work!" People are being led by the nose and they don't even realize it.
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  21337. Nope
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  21338. Times change. Many people working these jobs aren't teenagers. Everyone cannot move up from minimum wage jobs. Corporations want slave labor. If they want to automate to avoid having to pay non poverty wages, then that corporation can screw right off
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  21339. You're more upset over unemployment and inflation than helping the workers have a living wage.
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  21340. Correct.
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  21341. He's not saying the quiet part out loud. Republicans believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
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  21342. It's supposed to be a "training " wage.
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  21343. That's messed up. I've never worked hard like that. But being a cashier sucked for me. I made $10/hr with a $0.50/raise. I worked 28 hours a week, with 0 benefits as a result. No career advancement, no way to pay for college.
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  21344. Because politicians oppose poor people receiving help
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  21345. You are correct. And his objective worked.
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  21346. I don't vote
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  21347. That's the problem.
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  21348. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If I could afford healthcare without working. I'm not accepting any job that deprives me of healthcare.
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  21349. You can't get a degree online.
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  21350. ​ @cassady7169 you're a troll.
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  21351. ​ @skatemo100 thank you.
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  21352. So are you saying today's students are in a Catch 22?
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  21353. Why do they believe that?
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  21354. I don't understand what Republicans want. Poverty?
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  21355. ​ @shadowprince4482 yep
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  21356. ​ @shadowprince4482 ok
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  21357. Yep
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  21358. it's called the myth of meritocracy. Many capitalists believe meritocracy is real because if it wasn't then it would make all hard work pointless since success would be a lottery.
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  21359. ​ @rrdream2400  fallacy of relative privation
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  21360. @R&RDream  since when did any one student determine the price of college? What next? Do you blame people who use medicaid for the cost of healthcare? Homeless people for the cost of homes? If people had a choice, nobody would rely on welfare or debt.
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  21361. @R&RDream  they're trying to escape poverty. I can't believe you're criticizing them for that.
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  21362. I'm on crappy medicaid
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  21363.  @jeanettelebarron3306  Yes, it's free. And I get free cab rides to and from doctors appointments. But I was forced onto medicaid because I can't afford private health insurance while in school. Most doctors don't take it, and I can't make above $20k.
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  21364.  @jeanettelebarron3306  yes, but most doctors don't take it and I'm not motivated to get off of it because the poverty threshold is too low.
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  21365. When I worked at a supermarket my $17/hour wage proposal was rejected. I was paid $10/hour instead. My raise was $0.50. I needed food stamps in order to survive.
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  21366. You are admitting poverty is a policy choice.
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  21367. Peter doesn't care about productivity, only skills.
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  21368. Exactly.
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  21369. edward smith yes it wad. Starting out.
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  21370. Disabled people are seen as worthless because they're unable to work. Ubi won't work because corporations want poor people to work for slave wages.
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  21371. Doesn't matter ​ @paulg6274 
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  21372. Only millionaires and billionaires can live comfortably now.
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  21373. I'm 28 years old. I've never hugged, held hands, kissed, or had sex. I've been wanting to lose my virginity for 7 years.
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  21374. Why not? Laborers can't negotiate on their own.
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  21375.  @WildBill99x  1. most workers have limited skills and immediate needs, meaning they lack power. A cashier is in no position to demand $15/hr, if they could, any minimum wage law would be unnecessary and the working poor would not exist. 2. Government has the authority to create laws. Business regulations are one of them. A minimum wage regulation is no different than a regulation on worker safety or limiting carbon emissions. 3. If a business can only survive by paying people below poverty wages that the workers certainly do not want, then that business does not deserve to exist. 4. It isn't terrible to cause job loss, Because I don't count a job as viable if the person working it can't survive on its compensation. So if we go from 3 million poverty wage jobs to 1 million living wage jobs, that's an acceptable loss, both economically and morally, to me. Hiring a low wage worker is a drain economically. First off it's a paradox, you either hire someone and you don't pay them enough to live or you don't hire them and they don't make enough to live still. The worker is screwed either way. Screw an economy that creates poverty. Also, It costs more money for someone to have a low-wage job than to not have one. The person working it doesn't make enough money to live, so they make up the difference with welfare. But this welfare costs the taxpayers more than simply providing a living wage. I.e. paying someone $15 an hour is cheaper than paying them $7.25 then making up the difference in food stamps, Medicaid, WIC, etc.
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  21376.  @WildBill99x  If I had my way I'd give corporations the choice of paying livable wages or paying 5x the amount their employees used in welfare benefits. So every Walmart store would be paying roughly $10 million a year in additional taxes.(average store costs taxpayers $1.72-$2 million a year in welfare).
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  21377.  @LogosFlow  it's too late. Plus, even if I had abandoned her, I would've been too poor to afford community college anyway.
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  21378.  @ErutaniaRose  thanks. I hope so too
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  21379.  @erictheredguy  I'm sorry to hear that.
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  21380.  @FireElement7  Okay. I'll stay strong.
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  21381.  @JP-hj1il  thank you for your insight. I feel like giving up every day.
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  21382.  @AndrewWadzinski  same here. I need to be rich to afford college, much less private schools. I'm very smart and very poor.
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  21383.  @AndrewWadzinski  my replies are deleted but I said I'd need to be rich to afford college
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  21384.  @AndrewWadzinski  would you be happy if I won a full ride scholarship or grant?(Despite not having a 4.0 GPA)
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  21385.  @lilpetz500  yep.
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  21386.  @dsiepiela6449  Reagan made college expensive to keep out poor people like myself.
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  21387.  @dsiepiela6449  and there aren't enough scholarships or grants to help everyone in college. I didn't get a single scholarship from school. I won one out of 428 scholarship awards, with 1,897 applicants!
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  21388.  @dsiepiela6449  yes. I don't know what to do. I wish I had scholarships and could change the system. Hell, a part of me wants to be POTUS one day.
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  21389.  @dsiepiela6449  my notifications are messed up
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  21390.  @dsiepiela6449  I'm glad you didn't give up. I don't want to give up on school because I'm poor. I want to be a physicist so severely.
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  21391.  @B_Bodziak  that's messed up
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  21392.  @rebeccamouse9294  I wish things happened differently
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  21393.  @rebeccamouse9294  thank you.
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  21394.  @wsb4586  a physics professor I met has been paying my tuition for the past year. So basically a scholarship. Now I have to figure out how to cover living expenses.. I'm having trouble going full-time since some classes are in person. I might have to rely on more welfare for the time being.
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  21395.  @wsb4586  or apply to grants
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  21396.  @wsb4586  Reagan created the student loan crisis precisely to ensure poor people like myself are locked out of higher education
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  21397.  @wsb4586  my replies are gone. I hope you read them
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  21398.  @wsb4586  I hope you can see my replies, because I can't
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  21399.  @wsb4586  I can't post replies anymore. They keep getting deleted
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  21400.  @wsb4586  can you see my replies?
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  21401.  @d.e.b.b5788  I got a full tuition scholarship! Now I must decide how to cover my living expenses.
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  21402. ​ @wsb4586 my replies keep getting deleted so I can't reply to you
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  21403. That's the point though. The point of these policies is NOT to end poverty
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  21404. These programs aren't meant to make profits but help people.
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  21405. @Spartan1312  okay.
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  21406. That's the point
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  21407. Exactly.
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  21408. You can't force women to not have kids or sex. It is ridiculous to expect women to go to their grave sexless and childless.
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  21409.  Michael Euthanasia  there are many people with college degrees that are still broke.
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  21410. @Michael Euthanasia  the government hasn't passed free college, despite the fact that hardly any high paying jobs exist for someone with only a high school diploma.
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  21411.  @hectorvega621  do you agree with me?
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  21412. @Hector Vega  I'd really like someone to debate me and tell me a neurosurgeon would become a cashier LOL.
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  21413. Republicans don't like welfare because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Politicians want poor people to be under the boots of corporations.
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  21414. What the business owner is saying is he doesn't find poverty unacceptable.
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  21415.  @professorwiggins3290  not everyone can increase their skills. There are not enough high paying jobs for everyone to move up to. Not everyone can even work.
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  21416.  @professorwiggins3290  if every low wage worker woke up tomorrow and tried their hardest, will they all get a promotion? Will they all make more money next year? No. That's not true at all. Most of them will be stuck in that low wage job. And employees work to make money as well. But for some reason, fox news only cares about business owners not making enough money and never the workers.
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  21417.  @professorwiggins3290  because the point I'm trying to make here, is the business owner's whole argument, and yours: Is that some people should live in poverty. Here again, we can't all go to college. Especially with it being so expensive. We can't all be CEOs or doctors. Someone has to work fast food, retail, hospitality, etc.
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  21418.  @professorwiggins3290  I think your comments are getting deleted.
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  21419.  @professorwiggins3290  I'm in poverty now because as a cashier I make $10.50/hr, with zero health benefits.
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  21420. ​ @professorwiggins3290 my notifications are messed up but I'm glad i saw your comments.
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  21421. ​ @professorwiggins3290  1. That's the fallacy of relative privation. Just because who are poor in USA aren't as poor as the poor in third world countries doesn't diminish their suffering or make their situation any better. Being thankful at a police department for stopping 40% of crime since another city department stopped only 15% by comparison. 2. Yes, i myself can and will escape poverty with enough hard work. 3. Not everyone can escape poverty. So to point two: I'm 29. I'm at community college now. I'm pursuing an associate of science degree. My desire is to transfer to a four year school and obtain a Physics Degree/bachelor's of science. I applied to a few universities but didn't get in because i either had too low grades or too few credits.
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  21422. ​ @professorwiggins3290 what the minimum wage debate reveals to me several things 1. All priorities are not created equal. We are neither capable nor willing to help everyone 2. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept. 3. When dealing with a higher minimum wage, people complain about tax hikes, automation, unemployment, business bankruptcy, and inflation. They're more concerned with mitigating these risks than helping the poor. This means they don't find poverty unacceptable.
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  21423. ​ @professorwiggins3290 long story short I'm at community college because i chose to take care of my sick mom, putting my life on hold. She passed away when i was 28(she was 47). Going to school has been hard, I can't afford rent, I can't afford a car, i can't afford healthcare without medicaid, i can't afford food without my dad's help, i lost my food stamps thanks to the dumb work requirements (able bodied people must work twenty hours a week or they lose food stamps after three months, going to school isn't classified as work). The real reason welfare has work requirements is to force poor people into low wage jobs, but that's besides the point. I would love nothing more than to not be poor, to be awarded a scholarship, to have my mom. But everything screws me over. Now this business owner has the audacity to shame millions of working poor people in this country, as if not wanting to be poor is a crime.
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  21424. ​ @professorwiggins3290 i want, need this physics degree mote than anything, but i don't think anyone should need food stamps or Medicaid at all, much less while attending school, public, private, wherever.
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  21425.  @professorwiggins3290  again. All priorities are not created equal. It is impossible to solve all problems, help everyone have everything all at once. I'm not going to lie to you and say a minimum wage increase could do such a thing. What I'm saying is if people prioritize mitigating the risks of automation, unemployment, inflation over poverty, they're saying poverty is acceptable. They're not willing to take that risk to helping the working poor. Because to do what they suggest, nothing, is to do nothing about poverty at all(in this instance).
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  21426.  @professorwiggins3290  I hope you see my replies because I think YouTube spam filter deletes them. As for helping the impoverished, the reason welfare is hated is because poor people don't work for slave wages if they have government assistance. If poor people have no government assistance, they are forced by business owners to work for whatever wages that they can get. If the government assistance/income grant pays enough to afford food or housing or healthcare, poor people won't return to jobs that do not pay enough to do so(like minimum wage). Just like doctors don't qualify for food stamps, nor would they use them even if they could qualify(the reverse, the salary exceeds government assistance)
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  21427.  @professorwiggins3290  I can't see your replies now.
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  21428. i hope to know about the guy you were talking about. i am here for constructive criticism @professorwiggins3290 
    1
  21429. Wow
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  21430. Yep
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  21431. Yep.
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  21432. correct.
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  21433. When I was forced onto medicaid I've been catching hell finding doctors who take it.
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  21434. Unskilled workers have no bargaining power.
    1
  21435. In other words the minimum wage became the maximum wage
    1
  21436. But they ask for billions EVERY YEAR.
    1
  21437. Rofl
    1
  21438. I made $10.50/hr as a cashier, $900/semester as an intern, received 0 health insurance, and couldn't get welfare despite being poor.
    1
  21439. Same.
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  21440. Google Steve cohen. His lowest salary was $428 million.
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  21441. He should be let go.
    1
  21442. Clinton destroyed welfare.
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  21443. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded a with a $10 million education scholarship?
    1
  21444. He isn't really concerned about the job loss. Conservatives fundamentally oppose a living wage minimum wage because they believe that minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  21445.  @sharronneedles6721  you're right...i have to earn anything i want like affection.
    1
  21446.  @Dimitris_Half  you mean talk to them in person?
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  21447.  @Dimitris_Half  Okay. But I'm telling you that tinder doesn't work for me even though it does for women.
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  21448.  @Dimitris_Half  okay.. I'll start going to comedy clubs..that seems simple enough. Forming online clubs like for gaming or anime sounds fun too.
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  21449.  @Dimitris_Half  seems doable. I was expecting to come easily and without effort. It hasn't and won't. And even if it did i wouldn't truly be happy.
    1
  21450.  @Dimitris_Half  sounds thrilling. Thank you for your help... I do not hate women..
    1
  21451.  @Dimitris_Half  you're right thank you.
    1
  21452.  @Dimitris_Half  great advice!
    1
  21453. Then you'd have less wage slaves.
    1
  21454. That's by design
    1
  21455. Yep
    1
  21456. That's messed up
    1
  21457. Correct
    1
  21458.  @Fishchair  okay then.
    1
  21459.  @Fishchair  I guess I should and still let my hatred go and understand I must earn what I want.
    1
  21460. To perpetuate poverty.
    1
  21461. ​ @G.Orwell-xq3bh be quiet
    1
  21462. LOL.
    1
  21463.  @Global.YouTube  yep. I'm poor but receive no media coverage.
    1
  21464. That's evil
    1
  21465. Not true
    1
  21466. Are you joking or serious?
    1
  21467. lol.
    1
  21468. I won't give up.
    1
  21469. I'm a loser virgin at 28.
    1
  21470. Yes
    1
  21471. What The bald guy is saying he thinks minimum wage workers who are adults are losers who don't deserve to make that much money
    1
  21472. LOL
    1
  21473. The point is to perpetuate poverty.
    1
  21474. ​ @Francisco-j1e yep
    1
  21475. Yep
    1
  21476. i wish workers had decent say in working conditions.
    1
  21477. ​@aolvaar8792exactly
    1
  21478.  @RedLgb-df9ob  no one policy is perfect. Otherwise we'd agree on everything.
    1
  21479. It's why Republicans hate welfare: because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  21480. Republicans want poverty to exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  21481. Women don't generally feel entitled to a man's attention and affection.
    1
  21482. Star Trek society is just around the corner! Harris has been holding back!
    1
  21483. I'm 28 years old and a virgin. I want to lose my virginity before I'm 29.
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  21484. I'm on the fence for voting because my mom is dead from not having healthcare and I'm forced to have Medicaid while in college.
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  21485. Accept inflation as a risk
    1
  21486.  @DJ_Force  inflation is acceptable risk. Inflation is terrible, but so is working and being in poverty. If you don't want one to exist you must accept the risk the other exists or would be magnified.
    1
  21487.  @DJ_Force  fast food workers couldn't afford to eat there in the first place. I made $8.50/hr working there.
    1
  21488.  @DJ_Force  the truth of our politics lies in the risks we refuse to accept. Our economy functions off of low wage labor. Inflation and unemployment are magnified risks to accept in rising labor and power.
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  21489. Both parties ignore the poor, so I don't vote.
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  21490.  @anitabriseno6260  you think poor people don't want to escape poverty severely enough?
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  21491.  @anitabriseno6260  I'm poor myself. I go to community college, rely on welfare and charity programs in order to survive. I shouldn't have to do that just so I can go to school or have healthcare.
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  21492.  @anitabriseno6260  I know. I said I am poor, not you are poor.
    1
  21493. Yep.
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  21494.  @stoneman623  fair point.
    1
  21495. Yep
    1
  21496. Exactly.
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  21497. Yep
    1
  21498. You can't afford a lawyer on minimum wage mate.
    1
  21499. Yep.
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  21500. That's messed up
    1
  21501. Entry-level jobs are dead-end and give you no skills
    1
  21502. Yep.
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  21503. I know. This country is trash.
    1
  21504. Because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer.
    1
  21505. 400k is not middle class. That's more than what some doctors make.
    1
  21506. Exactly like me.
    1
  21507. Everyone cannot do that
    1
  21508. ​ @dr.feelgood2358 yep
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  21509. Because the United States is ran by the rich, not the poor.
    1
  21510. Except republicans don't believe this. They believe in just world fallacy. You reward the rich with more money to motivate them to work harder, and you reward the poor with less money to achieve the same thing.
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  21511. I AM happy for him.
    1
  21512. Yep
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  21513. She just didn't apply herself. But even if she did no job should pay so low.
    1
  21514.  @BlitzkriegOmega  you cannot remove money from politics
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  21515. Because many people think poor people don't deserve help
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  21516. As long as they remain rich they'll love poverty
    1
  21517.  @FletchforFreedom  you're a troll everywhere you go.
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  21518. Inflation is an acceptable risk
    1
  21519. Maybe they should make more from working then? Welfare shouldn't pay someone so much to where they can live without working. Make it to where the pay is so high from working that being on welfare is a disincentive.
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  21520. Medicaid expansion in NC forced me off of private health insurance and back onto Medicaid.
    1
  21521. Okay
    1
  21522. Yes I am.
    1
  21523. I don't understand anything about immigration. Does a VISA grant you citizenship after a certain amount of time?
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  21524. No
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  21525. Because it's just-world fallacy. Republicans believe that rich people and business owners have succeeded in the system that works, so when they make a mistake they deserve to get bailed out due to their success . Where as poor people have failed, so any government help they receive is a handout.
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  21526. Exactly
    1
  21527. Yep.
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  21528. Wouldn't that make the minimum wage way higher than 15? Even $60/hr wouldn't pay for college now...
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  21529.  @kkknotcool  sounds like you believe in just-world fallacy to me.
    1
  21530.  @kkknotcool  yes but you seem to accept the world for what it is, not seeing its faults.
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  21531.  @kkknotcool  do you think poverty can be eliminated? And if so how?
    1
  21532.  @Fokko  this country has some idiots, so yes.
    1
  21533. ​ @env0x yep
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  21534. Too bad times change and kids don't deserve poverty either
    1
  21535.  @mouffon  okay
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  21536.  @mouffon  many people do blame poor people, though.
    1
  21537. Exactly.
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  21538. I'm an incel because I have 0 standards and am still a virgin at 27.
    1
  21539. It's called survivorship bias.
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  21540.  @matthias2756  no i mean crowder thinks since he has achieved success then everyone else can too and just as easily.
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  21541.  @matthias2756  it's okay. Do you agree with my conclusion about crowder?
    1
  21542.  @jubilation77c28  I want guns to be restricted
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  21543. Buying a hooker doesn't solve the problem of no woman loving you.
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  21544. Exactly
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  21545. Your conclusion is correct.
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  21546. Because poor people have no power and many politicians think poverty is an unsolvable issue.
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  21547. I'm on Medicaid. The health insurance sucks.
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  21548.  @relaxlibrary4249  my replies keep getting deleted. I didn't add context since i didn't think anyone would read this. I'm on medicaid because i'm a self supporting, very poor community college student. Neither CCs nor universities offer decent health insurance for students. As far as the work requirements go, it's very simple: republicans want a work requirement in order in to force poor people into minimum wage jobs. the two problems with medicaid are 1. many people believe poor people don't deserve government assistance 2. poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits since welfare pays more than minimum wage work, poor people have no incentive or pressure to work them. So what republicans do is use work requirements, time limits, etc. in order to coerce poor people into minimum wage jobs to make employers richer. I had private health insurance, but when i turned 26, i lost medicaid because my state denied medicaid expansion, it was recently expanded, but i lost the premium tax credit that made my health insurance so cheap, forcing me back onto medicaid again
    1
  21549.  @relaxlibrary4249  my replies are deleted again
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  21550.  @relaxlibrary4249  I replied on your YouTube channel because every time I reply here my replies are gone.
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  21551.  @relaxlibrary4249  I can't post replies here
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  21552.  @relaxlibrary4249  work requirements exist to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  21553. @science_bear why?
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  21554. ​ @callosamiusprometheus7350  exactly.
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  21555. ​@Alexis Young he is an other wallet warrior. His moral code says it's unethical to pay people more money than their low level abilties entitled them to earn.
    1
  21556. ​ @Saberwolves84 I hate him.
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  21557.  @jayk3551  crazy
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  21558.  @GolemRising  ok
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  21559. @blackmist12345678  that's crazy
    1
  21560.  @blackmist12345678  okay
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  21561. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. I want to lose my virginity to a woman who likes me. She doesn't have to love me. But being paid to be with me is gross
    1
  21562. Government wants disabled people to be in poverty or die. Not reproduce
    1
  21563.  @Revenant420  by design
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  21564.  @savage.4.24  yep
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  21565. Yep.
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  21566. Correct.
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  21567. Politicians know this. They don't care.
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  21568. Poor people don't donate to politicians, so rich people will keep getting bailouts.
    1
  21569.  @JustAnotherNamelessGuy  that poor people don't think straight.
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  21570. What?
    1
  21571. ​ @the_armada5579 ok
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  21572. Corporations support illegal immigration because what corporations want is access to labor forces who cannot afford to argue and who will work very hard for very low rates of pay.
    1
  21573.  @contedefees  exactly.
    1
  21574. ​ @ItzAnOrk yep.
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  21575. State governments used to fund college more... Then they stopped and federal government chose not to cap tuition.
    1
  21576. Yep.
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  21577. You can't get money out of politics. Money and ideology fuel politics
    1
  21578. ​ @raydunn2582 LOL
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  21579.  @RandomName0316  exactly. I'm poor and my voice isn't heard by politicians.
    1
  21580.  @RandomName0316  my replies are gone
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  21581.  @ElizabethEaton-q8p  I wish this was the case in USA. Poor people like myself can't afford to run.
    1
  21582. Republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class
    1
  21583.  Crickett  that's messed up. .
    1
  21584.  Crickett  pelosi is worth $200 million....I would cry to have that much money.
    1
  21585. Correct.
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  21586. Wrong take away message. The RIGHT message is that workers were gaining too much bargaining power, so corporations drove up inflation to stop this. Rising worker power, not continued poverty, is what corporations find unacceptable.
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  21587.  @Carolynj  what i'm saying is this: 1. worker solidarity and wage based poverty cannot both exist at once. Doctors can refuse to work for $10/hr. Cashiers can't, not on their own. They can collectively. If all workers had the power doctors do, noone would accept jobs that paid below the cost of living and/or had no benefits like paid sick leave. 2. I'm saying the truth of our values lies in what we are NOT willing to do(JFK was wrong). Corporations prioritize eradicating collective bargaining over the impoverishment of their workers. Well, news flash fox news, there wouldn't need to be collective bargaining or welfare if people were paid enough in the first place. Just like doctors don't need food stamps.
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  21588.  @Carolynj  i agree. it's messed up. but the core problem driving this is ideological, not economic: corporations and politicans do not find poverty unacceptable like they do rape. This change in politics requires a shift in our values. Billionaires and corporations stand to lose from workers have collective bargaining. They stand to lose from the elimination of poverty.
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  21589. The poor don't want a free ride, they're coerced to work slave wage jobs by corporations.
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  21590. There is no way to expect all poor women to be able to afford kids and healthcare.
    1
  21591. Yep.
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  21592. ​ @mirianakovachevic748 prostitutes only want me for money, not because they like me.
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  21593. Ok
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  21594. Exactly. Sounds like good logic to me.
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  21595. If only everyone believed this. You are correct btw
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  21596. Wow.
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  21597. Ok​ @QWERTY-gp8fd 
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  21598. ​ @QWERTY-gp8fd I look good but I'm a broke community college student at 29. I'm poor
    1
  21599.  @QWERTY-gp8fd  makes sense. I want to win scholarships. Don't you think it's unfair if women only wanted to date me if I had lots of money?
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  21600.  @hyper_tex9834  that's pure EVIL
    1
  21601. Yep
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  21602. Tinder doesn't work.
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  21603. It already is a crime.
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  21604. Anyone reading this needs to know that the stock market is a scam. The top 10% of income earners give themselves 75% of corporate profits in the form of performance bonuses and dividends via financial market assets and business equities, while severely underpaying their workforce, offering no real benefits beyond barely survivable wages, overly expensive health care, and paltry job benefits. The reason the federal reserve pumped so much money into the stock market is because the rich derives their money from assets, not income, like the rest of America does.
    1
  21605. Exactly ​ @tectonicshifting 
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  21606. Exactly.
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  21607. Able-bodied is a moral term
    1
  21608. Because the real reason conservatives oppose a living wage minimum wage is because their ethical code says it's immoral to pay people more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  21609. The work requirements are a way of punishing poor people and a way of forcing people into terrible jobs
    1
  21610. I'm happy for him as an incel.
    1
  21611. ​ @HedgeHermit  prostitutes don't offer genuine affection.
    1
  21612. Poverty keeps people in line.
    1
  21613. It's disgusting someone can have a net annual income of $400,000 but other people make $7.25/ hr.
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  21614. Herbert gans
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  21615. Because conservatives believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. They oppose a minimum wage increase on morals, not economics.
    1
  21616. You're right. I'm 29 and I'm poor/broke/living at home
    1
  21617. Yep
    1
  21618. Wow.
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  21619. Yep
    1
  21620. It's about priorities.
    1
  21621. Ok​ @SomeUserNameBlahBlah 
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  21622. @enddaoccupation  not a high enough fine or tax. Tax corporations 1,000,000 per hour per day per person.
    1
  21623. @enddaoccupation  oh yeah that would bankrupt small businesses.
    1
  21624. Except tinder works mostly for women. Women on average get 50 likes per day where as the average man gets 3. And a like doesn't mean an interaction. I have used Tinder for 6 years to no avail
    1
  21625.  @egyptianminor  but yeah tinder only works for women and gay men.
    1
  21626. These jobs are worth more than what the jobs pay. It's just that business owners can get away with paying less.
    1
  21627. Poverty is a policy choice.
    1
  21628. Who?
    1
  21629. Do you feel any sympathy for them?
    1
  21630.  @JohnDoe-zo5tu  okay thanks for your input.
    1
  21631. The poverty line is artificially low. The more accurate number is 140 million.
    1
  21632.  @bradleysmith9431  yes...I know.
    1
  21633. 170k? WITH benefits? The middle class are wage slaves too!!
    1
  21634.  @charlie-obrien  LOL.
    1
  21635. They want people trapped in dead end jobs.
    1
  21636. Exactly. You can't make this up.
    1
  21637. Yeah, because poor people set coffee and phone prices.
    1
  21638.  @degoth_spirestone  you need a phone and wanting coffee is not the same as wanting a sports car. And people are not poor because of wanting coffee/phones.
    1
  21639.  @degoth_spirestone  When I worked minimum wage, it costs me more to have the job than not have it. It costed me more to get to work than what I was paid. It costed me more to pay for health insurance and a cell phone bill than what I was paid.
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  21640. I'm poor too. But I also don't have a car or license. I'm a freaking virgin at 28. HHKV too.
    1
  21641. You're screwed.
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  21642. @Appalachian Crochet  BTW I forgot to tell you using a hooker grosses me out because she doesn't like me/is attracted to me
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  21643. @Appalachian Crochet Designs  LOL go ahead! I gotta help move tomorrow. At 28 I gotta move out of my mom's place and into my dad's. I hope I get a scholarship soon to afford an apartment. I lost my mom and it's been hard. But I'm happy I didn't give up.
    1
  21644. ​ @hannahw7023 lol yep.
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  21645. Thanks
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  21646.  @AliciaGuitar  yes
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  21647. He believes disabled people and poor people don't deserve education
    1
  21648. Yes. Poverty wages. Which makes the job switch pointless.
    1
  21649. Even those women can get laid with enough effort.
    1
  21650. Beautiful
    1
  21651.  @theboringchannel2027  that's messed up, man. It's disgusting.
    1
  21652. These people are disgusting.
    1
  21653. Yep.
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  21654. Ok
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  21655. Most poor people already have a job.
    1
  21656. Republicans love poverty, don't they?
    1
  21657. Corporations want a desperate workforce in order to work for slave wages. Restricting welfare and illegal immigration supply cheap labor.
    1
  21658. ​ @JuanQuinones-u4y yep
    1
  21659. Student debt is a policy choice.
    1
  21660. Reagan made college expensive because he believed poor people shouldn't be educated.
    1
  21661. Usa wants student loans to perpetuate poverty
    1
  21662. USA wants poor people out of college.
    1
  21663. Ok
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  21664. You're correct.
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  21665. Ok
    1
  21666. Wow
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  21667.  @margaretjohnson6259  why though?
    1
  21668.  @orangecat504  those people?
    1
  21669. ​ @beanpasteposts yep
    1
  21670. I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education grant?
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  21671. Yes
    1
  21672. ​ @ultimateblade4127  exactly
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  21673.  @adampeterson8820  I'm saying what this debate over workers is about what deprivation and hardship politicans deem unacceptable. Politicians, but especially Republicans, do NOT want to end poverty. 1. Because they morally oppose policies which pull people out of poverty and create a middle class 2. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. A guaranteed minimum income would abolish poverty BUT give workers too much bargaining power.
    1
  21674.  @adampeterson8820  women's suffrage is one thing they deem unacceptable(or the lack there of). If I offered Kamala Harris $1 billion to repeal the 19th amendment and deprive women of voting forever, would she take the money? Absolutely not. Women having the right to vote is more important than company profits.
    1
  21675.  @adampeterson8820  I do not understand why women's suffrage is more important to her(and our government) than abolishing poverty or crime or wrongful imprisonment.
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  21676.  @adampeterson8820  I think it's a lack of compassion. I'm not imprisoning people like that for any amount of money.
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  21677.  @adampeterson8820  do you think she'd repeal the 19th amendment for enough money, though? Or freedom of speech?
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  21678.  @adampeterson8820  beautiful to hear. For some reason, I'm not getting notifications anymore.
    1
  21679. I'm an autistic virgin at 29.
    1
  21680. @jeannehall6546  many people tell me I'm brilliant/intelligent concerning astrophysics.
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  21681. ​ @jeannehall6546  thanks.
    1
  21682. ​ @jeannehall6546 am I a loser?
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  21683. That's messed up
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  21684. Yes
    1
  21685. that sucks.
    1
  21686. i'm incel because i'm poor.
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  21687. Everyone cannot obtain more skills. And what you're saying is you find poverty acceptable.
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  21688.  @steventatlock5443  on the backs of their workers, yes.
    1
  21689. Most doctors don't accept my Medicaid. I have to wait months to get simple blood work or see a doctor.
    1
  21690. These people aren't poor or middle class, so they think USA is great.
    1
  21691. Wow
    1
  21692. Andrew Tate gets away with it
    1
  21693. ​ @Sherry-f9y everyone cannot advance
    1
  21694. ​ @demisavage77 exactly
    1
  21695.  @wayne-d8g  it isn't a stepping stone for many people
    1
  21696. Yes
    1
  21697. ​ @wayne-d8g it isn't a stepping stone
    1
  21698. The real political problem with a guaranteed income isn't the costs, but the benefits: poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  21699. Yes. Wal-Mart pays people that horribly. Ditto for McDonald's.
    1
  21700. I made $8.50 an hour at McDonald's. It costed me more to travel to/from work in 30 minutes than what i made in a whole 8 hour shift.
    1
  21701. I had 3 nerdgasms per second.
    1
  21702. Yes but Congress is corrupt, correct?
    1
  21703.  @jniles  exactly
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  21704. @pankajlivestream  no they can't
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  21705.  @margaretjohnson6259  yep
    1
  21706.  @margaretjohnson6259  yes
    1
  21707. They view all problems as individualistic.
    1
  21708. @Snaku 🐍 thanks brother
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  21709. ​@TruthDuoEI'm getting my car insurance soon.
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  21710. It's already been calculated.
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  21711. Because republicans believe poor people don't deserve healthcare.
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  21712. I've never had sex at all. I've never even kissed a girl. What advice do you have for me? Get out of here man
    1
  21713. Amazing
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  21714. He was too poor to do that, as am I.
    1
  21715. Correct
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  21716.  @Rabauke84  it's like the 12 labors of Hercules for poor people. You needed middle school. Then high school. Then bachelor's. Then master's. Then job experience.
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  21717. Survivorship bias.
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  21718. Incorrect. If that happened cashiers would be making $100,000 a year.
    1
  21719. I agree.
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  21720. Correct.
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  21721. Depressing.
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  21722. It's higher now than ever.
    1
  21723. You would be correct.
    1
  21724. How would you enforce this?
    1
  21725. You shouldn't have to do trades or military because you're too poor to go to university. Trade schools cost money too, even with financial aid. Military doesn't accept everyone.
    1
  21726. No
    1
  21727. I want to lose my virginity severely. I'm 28 years old. In a few months, I'll be 29.
    1
  21728. Exactly.
    1
  21729. $42.
    1
  21730. The truth is many Americans view being a billionaire or business owner as having "worked hard enough to get here" in the eyes of the government, so when they make a mistake, they "deserve" to get bailed out due to their success. Whereas poor people have "failed," so any government help they receive is a "handout."
    1
  21731. I'll tell you the truth: corporations want cheap labor. And society at large wants minimum wage jobs to be filled. Thus, politicians gut welfare to force poor people to accept minimum wage jobs
    1
  21732. ​ @Indybluesgirl ok
    1
  21733. Peter doesn't believe unskilled workers deserve profit sharing.
    1
  21734. Yes.
    1
  21735. I'm an incel. At 28 I've never kissed, dated, held hands or had sex. I'm unhappy every day.
    1
  21736. As a cashier I make $10.50/hr. A quarter raise every year
    1
  21737. I live with my Dad.
    1
  21738. Republicans want poor people forced into minimum wage jobs, that's why republicans hate welfare and UBI.
    1
  21739. That isn't the case. Greed is a choice. Kamala harris would not accept $1 billion to repeal the 19th amendment. It's about priorities.
    1
  21740.  @disabledchatzen5276  income.
    1
  21741.  @5353Jumper  no...44% of wage earners make 35k a year or less. Median income is 55k. USA income is over $21 trillion.... My math is right.
    1
  21742. Sociopaths
    1
  21743. poor people don't deserve government assistance
    1
  21744. Fox news logic
    1
  21745.  @ass4sale2  not true and even if it was there aren't enough high paying jobs available, it's a simple matter of numbers. Even if every poor worker quit right now there literally aren't white collar jobs for them to get.
    1
  21746.  @ass4sale2  considering inflation and cost of living even 30/hr isn't enough in some places. And you can forget about doing things like paying for college, going on vacation, getting a house...
    1
  21747.  @ass4sale2  shouldn't be that way.
    1
  21748. Exactly. The poverty rate is 43% now.
    1
  21749. ​​ @CorporalSteiner1945 no, you'd be FOR abolishing corporations
    1
  21750. 40 sounds good.
    1
  21751. Wow
    1
  21752. I'm still a virgin
    1
  21753. ​ @thatwgigeek  one student won $10.1 million scholarships.
    1
  21754. ​ @wordforger wow
    1
  21755. okay
    1
  21756. Nothing.
    1
  21757. Because it's a red herring. Republicans and corporations pretend to oppose unauthorized immigration, but actually support Illegal immigration because what corporations desire is access to slave labor. It's the real reason immigration reform has eluded Congress and is a perennial issue like poverty.
    1
  21758. How about having jobs reports that are accurate? A job doesn't count as viable if the person working it can't survive on its compensation.
    1
  21759. Which means if there are cashier jobs out there, that pay $10.50 an hour, which is what I make, I don't count that job as viable.
    1
  21760. That's messed up.
    1
  21761. Ok
    1
  21762. Yes
    1
  21763. You should also know you can't buy intimacy
    1
  21764. That's sad.
    1
  21765. Idk.
    1
  21766. A person's job is not reflective of their intelligence or work ethic.
    1
  21767. Same here.
    1
  21768. Have affordable housing as well. And more profit sharing
    1
  21769.  @eragon78  it's a policy choice to allow low wages...
    1
  21770.  @eragon78  yes. Poverty is a policy choice
    1
  21771. As if people don't want to strive.
    1
  21772. Yep.
    1
  21773. I'm very poor but I'm powerless because politicians and news media ignore me. I don't love USA.
    1
  21774. Yep
    1
  21775. ​ @JohnA... Ok
    1
  21776.  @MissBlueEyeliner  yes
    1
  21777. it's the freedom for businesses to make as much as they want.
    1
  21778. It's called character lottery. Or, more formally, the 4 types of moral luck: circumstantial. Resultant. Causal. And constitutive.
    1
  21779.  @yourgodismean4526  no need to be condescending.
    1
  21780.  @yourgodismean4526  it's hard for me to read emotion through text.
    1
  21781.  @yourgodismean4526  you're welcome and what did you learn?
    1
  21782. YES
    1
  21783. Plenty of men who don't do all of that get laid.
    1
  21784. Thank you.
    1
  21785. Exactly
    1
  21786. That's correct
    1
  21787. ​ @celtic69 exactly
    1
  21788. Correct.
    1
  21789. I make $10.50/hr as a cashier. My raise was $0.50. My pay ceiling is $12. I work part-time hours so I don't get benefits.
    1
  21790. Holy crap.
    1
  21791. That's it
    1
  21792. Yep. I lost my job as a cashier but I've been poor for far too long.
    1
  21793. Too much.
    1
  21794. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. I want to lose my virginity
    1
  21795.  @rasheedjamal9091  okay. Me complaining about women has gotten me nowhere.
    1
  21796. Yep
    1
  21797. Yes.
    1
  21798. ​ @mechengineer4life so this is a moral issue to you then: you believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money. Move where? The minimum wage can't afford housing in 98% of the country. Stop shaming poor people.
    1
  21799. ​ @AsifKhan-hf9zy because rich people want poverty
    1
  21800.  @dkupke  exactly.
    1
  21801. No. Don't discriminate based on degree.
    1
  21802. Whoa.
    1
  21803. Yep
    1
  21804. That's messed up.
    1
  21805. I'd abolish all private schools.
    1
  21806. You are correct
    1
  21807. ​ @chelseashamim9148 escorts don't offer genuine affection.
    1
  21808. ​ @chelseashamim9148 that will make the problem worse
    1
  21809. No​ @chelseashamim9148 
    1
  21810. So if rich people want money from the government, they just get it, but if poor people want government help, they have to "earn" it? So are poor people dogs now?
    1
  21811. ​@Empath Leaders it's why I hate America. People want to damn the poor for wanting to escape poverty, but damn them if they stay in poverty. And make poverty hard to deal with either way.
    1
  21812. The real reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  21813. Yes
    1
  21814. Yep
    1
  21815. ​ @BEESANDTOASTY EXACTLY
    1
  21816. Correct.
    1
  21817. if patents were revoked for these companies, they'd lower their prices then.
    1
  21818. Community colleges aren't cheap either
    1
  21819. I always compare poverty to women's suffrage. We as a society have the fundamental belief that women deserve the right to vote, that it is a right that they are supposed to have, so we ensured that they have that right. That's it. Our Society is structured around that simple fact. Wages are not like the weather: Something You observe and predict but cannot control. If we truly believed that no worker deserved to be poor then no worker then.....no worker would be poor. That's it. We would raise everyone's wages to an acceptable level and deal with the repercussions whatever they might be. Our society would be structured around that simple fact. It would be like women's suffrage, just an acceptable part of life. It's political policies and choices, not impersonal economic forces, as to why poverty wages exist at all. Poverty, like women's suffrage, is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
    1
  21820. It's called survivorship bias
    1
  21821. Because conservatives see socialism as taking away people's agency. They think capitalism is the best economic and moral system. In republican's eyes: effort is all you need to succeed. Since workers are paid based on effort(skill) then capitalism is the only good system. Socialism redistributes income(from the rich to the poor) "stealing" what was earned. Communism destroys the outcome of effort since everyone makes the same.
    1
  21822. ​ @SandfordSmythe exactly
    1
  21823. The real reason welfare has work requirements is to force poor people into minimum wage jobs.
    1
  21824. To force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  21825.  Ryan Alex  walmart made over $126 billion last year, these workers would be making over $100,000 a year if they received a fair share of profits
    1
  21826. I dealt with at a supermarket a few months ago WITHOUT a union
    1
  21827. It's why Republicans don't allow the poverty rate to be more accurately based on inflation and cost of living. The supplemental poverty measure puts the poverty rate at 43%.
    1
  21828. Because republicans know poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  21829. Not in North Carolina, where I live
    1
  21830. They don't, they're using profit margins as smoke and mirrors. Conservatives have a fundamental belief that some jobs have value and others do not. The CEO makes 38 million a year and they're making too little. While the cooks make 38000 a year and they're making too much.
    1
  21831. What fox news doesn't say is it opposes policies which reduce poverty.
    1
  21832. Yep.
    1
  21833. I'm 29. I'm an HHKV. I'm READY to lose my virginity.
    1
  21834. I'm still an incel virgin.
    1
  21835.  @DoritoWorldOrder  all of that requires luck, so yes, it IS like winning a lottery ticket.
    1
  21836.  @Anime-Trash  no. Idiotic
    1
  21837. ​ @joshtracy4441 it is a right in many other countries.
    1
  21838. @ethxo6734  yes. It's a marriage penalty.
    1
  21839. Okay. And?
    1
  21840. My mom died because Medicaid was too restricted and i lost medicaid myself because NC didn't pass medicaid expansion until after she had died and i lost pell grants for college. Now I'm back on medicaid, and few doctors take it. I have such contempt for USA because it ignores the poor.
    1
  21841. Correct. Showing me Biden doesn't care.
    1
  21842.  @johncrona5784  Okay.
    1
  21843.  @johncrona5784  there are so many poor people it's crazy that politicians ignore poverty.
    1
  21844.  @franziskani  ok
    1
  21845. Hahaha
    1
  21846.  @treyshaffer  Exactly
    1
  21847. Yeah. THAT is why poverty exists. LOL.
    1
  21848. Brady brunch kids.
    1
  21849. $127k minimum salary.
    1
  21850. Herbert gans
    1
  21851. Yep
    1
  21852. Just world fallacy
    1
  21853. This is all evil
    1
  21854. Rent is $2000 a month in cheapest part of the city. It's $5,000 downtown
    1
  21855. You must three times more to qualify
    1
  21856. 100% this 😊
    1
  21857.  @TehAnshiTunes  ok.
    1
  21858.  @BlackHearthguard  prostitutes don't like you. His dad got elliot a hooker but elliot refused.
    1
  21859. You're right. I'm working on myself. Hopefully I will find a woman who likes me, especially before i'm 30(I am 29 now). I know you can't buy intimacy. You can't buy respect or love. You can't force these things either. @alixthompson2836 
    1
  21860.  @alixthompson2836  I hope my comments aren't deleted
    1
  21861.  @alixthompson2836  tldr I used to be incel, I still haven't had sex, I'm changing into a better man.
    1
  21862.  @alixthompson2836  I'll keep putting in the work. Next time I come back here, my dreams will be realized.
    1
  21863. As a relative proportion of all tax earners the wealthiest pay the most. The top 1% of income earners contribute about 27% to the income tax.
    1
  21864. He didn't want sex, he wanted power and control over women.
    1
  21865. Except conservatives support welfare for the wealthy
    1
  21866. I hope I can finish college....even though I'm poor.
    1
  21867. Wow
    1
  21868. ​ @tazmanian1033 beautiful
    1
  21869. Ok
    1
  21870. That makes me cry.
    1
  21871. Wages don't have to be so low.
    1
  21872. Exactly.
    1
  21873. They make so much money but pay $8-$14....
    1
  21874. Poverty doesn't account for relative costs of living, cost of basic necessities such as education or health care, and job benefits/security.
    1
  21875. Yep
    1
  21876. Hatred of the poor, atheists, Islamic people, immigrants, change, homosexuals. Pick one
    1
  21877. ​ @jaybleu6169  Exactly.
    1
  21878. ​ @jaybleu6169  The reason they oppose a living wage minimum wage is because they believe morally they don't deserve to make all that money
    1
  21879. When will I lose my virginity? I'm 28. I'm not getting any younger.
    1
  21880. I'm not through with the video yet either. The reason I identify as incel is because I'm a virgin involuntarily.
    1
  21881. ​ @trialshdultimategame okay, will do.
    1
  21882. Nobody is arguing for equality but for the rich and poor to not be treated differently.
    1
  21883. My life is over
    1
  21884. Ok
    1
  21885. Exactly
    1
  21886. I wish pbd interviewed poor people
    1
  21887. You give the rich more money to motivate them to work harder and you give the poor less money to achieve the same thing. Calvinism is alive and well in the Republican party!
    1
  21888. They deserve $50.
    1
  21889. Yep.
    1
  21890. Hahaha.
    1
  21891.  @hks2377  that's crazy.
    1
  21892. Not everyone can be promoted out of a low skill.
    1
  21893. Because?
    1
  21894. Republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class.
    1
  21895. I cry reading this and agree
    1
  21896. $3 million a year.
    1
  21897. It's a choice for businesses to pay poverty wages and raising prices.
    1
  21898. Because Republicans believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. Republicans believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty. Also, republicans oppose policies which reduce poverty and create a middle class
    1
  21899. Republicans don't believe minimum wage workers deserve to be middle class
    1
  21900. I'm poor and sit at home I work as a cashier at 29 years old and live with my dad
    1
  21901. Because the American economy runs on poverty, or at least the threat of it. American consumers want their goods quick and cheap and this requires workers willing to work for dirt low wages with no real benefits. Politicians see worker solidarity, and use the whip of poverty to put workers in their place.
    1
  21902. Yep
    1
  21903. Charity can't replace welfare
    1
  21904. Oh wow.
    1
  21905. Does that make them sad?
    1
  21906. Worker solidarity, not continued poverty, is deemed intolerable.
    1
  21907. Because of something Kyle barely touches on: value. Many people combine economic and moral value. Doctors are priceless but cashiers are worthless. Thus, many people are ableist and think cashiers deserve poverty.
    1
  21908. They don't want poor people empowered.
    1
  21909. Because they're receiving a standard of life they don't deserve
    1
  21910. ​ @lokinakor1  correct.
    1
  21911. ​@Scott Andrew Hutchins that's messed up
    1
  21912. ​ @YTGoDwIlLrEiGn yep
    1
  21913. ​ @tureytayno3154  exactly
    1
  21914.  @Sweetpea3051 since then I've been living with my dad. He expects me to watch his son/my brother during the week. I have decided I can't take it anymore
    1
  21915.  @joe9634l  my replies are deleted
    1
  21916.  @invadingomen6826  yes.
    1
  21917.  @MrBojangles-of3bs  is he saying he worked 60 hours a week, went to school full-time, and raised two kids by himself and graduated on time?
    1
  21918.  @karinbiow9110  thanks
    1
  21919.  @MrBojangles-of3bs  I didn't think about the guy's situation like that. My notifications are messed up
    1
  21920.  @invadingomen6826  do you think I should quit school?
    1
  21921.  @invadingomen6826  you're right that's what I did.
    1
  21922.  @invadingomen6826  politicians want poverty in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs and other undesirable jobs. Read an essay called Herbert gans functions of poverty.
    1
  21923.  @MH-ro1lg  I do have what it takes. I will get my degree.
    1
  21924.  @MH-ro1lg  you are cruel if you think everyone can overcome any hardship.
    1
  21925.  @invadingomen6826  it seems there is circular scapegoating of the poor here: I'm damned if I do anything to decrease my own poverty but I'm damned if I don't do anything.
    1
  21926.  @invadingomen6826  I decided to give up on school and life.
    1
  21927. Most profiles on tinder are fake.
    1
  21928. It's 5.15 in some places
    1
  21929. Ok
    1
  21930. Poverty is a policy choice
    1
  21931. Why?
    1
  21932. I'm a virgin at 29
    1
  21933. The reason conservatives oppose welfare is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
    1
  21934. @Hobbyrants  exactly.
    1
  21935.  @Bluebirdgrandson  exactly
    1
  21936.  @Bluebirdgrandson  I wish I could change the system
    1
  21937. I'm a kissless virgin at 28
    1
  21938. I'm a college student, cashier, and intern.
    1
  21939. I'm 28 now. Virgin
    1
  21940. Yes.
    1
  21941. Correct.
    1
  21942. Wormoles and black holes and not the same thing. Black holes are regions with extreme space-time curvature, however their energy density is entirely positive. Wormholes have extreme space-time curvature as well, wormholes just curve space in a different way due to the presence of exotic matter that allow safe passage Through the Wormhole(where as a black hole would eventually rip any matter apart and infinitely blue shift radiation)
    1
  21943. A prostitute doesn't offer genuine affection.
    1
  21944. I'm 29 and broke and living at home
    1
  21945.  @derekwest4245  it is. I'll fix it. I realized that it isn't any woman's job to date me, sleep with me, or take care of me.
    1
  21946.  @derekwest4245  I'll be more confident. Talking to women isn't rocket science. You're right, I just have to be happy with myself. Have fun.
    1
  21947. MSNBC and CNN may not be a Fox News propaganda network, but they're a Democrat apologist network. They also push the narrative of meritocracy and capitalism being just.
    1
  21948. the real reason conservatives hate a living wage minimum wage is because of ideology: they believe unskilled workers don't deserve to make that much money. Conservatives are saying some workers deserve poverty and that it's their right to tell poor people how much money they deserve to make.
    1
  21949. How?
    1
  21950. If you can only stay open from poverty wages then you don't need to exist.
    1
  21951. Exactly.
    1
  21952. Because it's about morals. Their ethical code says it's morally wrong to pay people more money than their low level abilities entitle them to earn.
    1
  21953. A neurosurgeon making $900,000/year is fine. A cashier making $50,000/year is a rapist.
    1
  21954. Because they want poverty to exist.
    1
  21955. Welfare and ubi would share the same problem- poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
    1
  21956. Correct.
    1
  21957.  @Cuddly-Cactus  Republicans want welfare to be restricted in order to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  21958. Exactly. You should read this essay by called Herbert gans called "Functions of Poverty."
    1
  21959.  @destinal_in_reality  yes it does. Republicans believe you pay the rich more to motivate them to do better and pay the poor less to achieve the same.
    1
  21960. No because corporations were too greedy and wanted cheap labor from over seas
    1
  21961.  Crickett  Exactly.
    1
  21962. Politicians only serve the rich.
    1
  21963. You admit these jobs are dead end and give you no skills but also argue these workers should get more skills.
    1
  21964.  @laurie_guilbeau  you're right. I want this degree more than anything. Screw what other people think. I must sacrifice with welfare and working for scholarships, to obtain this degree.
    1
  21965.  @laurie_guilbeau  I'm poor, don't have a car, but I want this physics degree more than anything.
    1
  21966.  @laurie_guilbeau  I hope you read my comments. YouTube deletes my replies
    1
  21967. ​ @laurie_guilbeau I'm a self supporting, poor community college student. I desire to transfer to a university And obtain a bachelor's degree in physics. Ultimately, I want to be an Astrophysicist. Would you support me winning a full ride scholarship or grant? Or being awarded with a $10 million education grant?
    1
  21968. Yep
    1
  21969. ​ @Tony_Cardoza I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Pay for sex? As in, prostitution? I'm not doing that. A prostitute doesn't offer genuine affection. If I wasn't paying her, she wouldn't be with me.
    1
  21970. ​ @4cme199 because many men feel entitled to women. It isn't about sex, but power and control.
    1
  21971. I'm a kissless virgin at 29
    1
  21972. okay?
    1
  21973. cashiers are not making $50/hr no matter how profitable Walmart becomes.
    1
  21974.  @lynns4426  they offered me welfare, so I'll have to rely on welfare for the next two years. I lost food stamps, so I'll have to go to food banks in order to survive.
    1
  21975.  @lynns4426  I won't give up
    1
  21976. These pricks Never interview Middle class or poor people.
    1
  21977.  @sopheakko6744  if USA was as great as Bill claimed, nobody would qualify for or need welfare. I had SNAP, but lost it due to the work requirements. There is rental and energy assistance available for me because I'm low income..
    1
  21978. I can't afford rent
    1
  21979.  @Jay.the.goblinking  the reason people hate poor people receiving government assistance is because they believe poor people don't work hard enough to deserve aid. Conservatives tend to oppose social insurance
    1
  21980.  @sopheakko6744  I shouldn't expect others to make life easier for me. I guess I get upset that isn't easier or as easy as it is for people like Maher.
    1
  21981.  @sopheakko6744  I definitely take advantage of Medicaid. $8 for medicine instead of $2,100. Free exams/glasses. Plus I might win scholarships soon.
    1
  21982.  @sopheakko6744  I'll get ahead
    1
  21983. Yes
    1
  21984.  @Jay.the.goblinking  thanks
    1
  21985.  @andrewsmith3257  nc is the south
    1
  21986.  @Jay.the.goblinking  ok
    1
  21987.  @roarof24  how are the poor to blame?
    1
  21988. Lol
    1
  21989. Yep
    1
  21990. Evil.
    1
  21991. It's about deservedness. Politicians believe minimum wage workers are asking to be paid more money than their low-level abilities entitle them to earn. If doctors wanted to make $15 an hour the same government would pass an $80 an hour minimum wage then.
    1
  21992. And the rich have made trillions off of the interest. They have a guaranteed income.
    1
  21993. That's crazy.
    1
  21994. Using a hooker isn't genuine affection.
    1
  21995. ​ @xavierplatinum279  he's an other wallet warrior.
    1
  21996.  @sisuguillam5109  paying for sex confirms I'm unlovable
    1
  21997.  @kennylanqua6512  i believe me using a hooker to stop being incel will make the problem worse.
    1
  21998. @kenny lanqua  yes. I'm an incel. Prostitution solves nothing. People like Donald trump can get laid for free(despite being an egomaniac) because he had money and charisma. Most incels are either NEETs or work minimum wage.
    1
  21999. Yep
    1
  22000. The poor people campaign estimates the poverty rate at close to half the country: 140 million people are poor or low income. That's 43% of the population. Politicians don't raise the poverty rate because it would reduce the funding they get from the federal government.
    1
  22001. Why
    1
  22002. No
    1
  22003. Thank you I cry while struggling with poverty Community college is so hard
    1
  22004. Disgusting.
    1
  22005. I would consider that deserved.
    1
  22006. Greed would not go away even then.
    1
  22007.  @ryno_8748  I don't know how Fox news makes billions a year. Idk why anyone believes their garbage.
    1
  22008. Inflation is an acceptable risk.
    1
  22009. Yep.
    1
  22010. Reagan correctly intuited that more educated poor people meant fewer workers willing to put up with worker exploitation.
    1
  22011. So this is a moral issue to you: you believe poor people don't deserve that much money. And you only scream "communism " when the government helps poor people.
    1
  22012. Yes
    1
  22013. ​ @Charon85Onozuka  yes
    1
  22014. You need a nuclear reactor
    1
  22015. Yep. They need poverty.
    1
  22016. Times have changed. Thinking like this gave us slavery.
    1
  22017. Poor people can't afford to run for office and change things
    1
  22018. K
    1
  22019. Stop looking down on poor people. Look down on greedy corporations for creating dead end jobs and slave wages.
    1
  22020. ​ @TossGawd lol
    1
  22021. Because welfare pays more than minimum wage jobs, politicians restrict welfare to force poor people into minimum wage jobs
    1
  22022. $16 million a year
    1
  22023. You can't.
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  22024. I am feeling some pain in America. I work as a cashier at a supermarket, I make $10 an hour. Now if this was the 1950s that'd be fine but with homes and car prices now I can't afford to live on my own. I still live with my family. I can't stand watching Fox News because they bash minimum wage workers like myself calling me lazy. Yeah none of these Fox News or conservative pundits explain to me how working your way up on a minimum wage job gives you a 50-cent raise per year if that and that there are not enough jobs for all of us to move up to The truth of the matter is many entry-level jobs are dead end.
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  22025. it's called having no soul.
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  22026. ​ @coasterblocks3420 that's messed up
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  22027. You misunderstood. Grassley doesn't believe everyone deserves to be middle class.
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  22028. It seems to me that public schools are how poor children access education.
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  22029. Why can't our government raise the minimum wage so parents can afford food without needing this program?
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  22030. I am
    1
  22031. Read Herbert gans functions of poverty.
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  22032. ​ @EvilHeroMaliciousBear exactly.
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  22033. Because fewer people in poverty means fewer people willing to put up with worker exploitation.
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  22034. Well, the news ignores poor people like myself
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  22035.  @flyoverkid55  yep
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  22036. Correct. I'm working with one other cashier doing the job of 6(with the rest of store being understaffed as well).
    1
  22037. I bet if my pay was tripled(to offset our workforce being a third).
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  22038. Because that's the point: to force people to slave away for corporations
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  22039. Yes.
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  22040. Yep
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  22041. ​ @tazmanian1033 I'm getting better at being incel. I returned to community college part-time next fall. I'm improving my diet. My top goals are Get a non minimum wage job Get a driver's license Get a car All in 30 days Then Improve my diet Do at home exercises
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  22042.  @tazmanian1033  I can't give up. I still keep virginity in the back of my head.
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  22043.  @TimeManInJail  ok
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  22044. Correct.
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  22045.  @davidstansbury9309  stress is subjective, as is value.
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  22046. Ok
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  22047. The real reason welfare is not robust is because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  22048. i'm healthy and free, but i want to lose my virginity so severely.
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  22049. ​​ @heels4lifx  Intelligence is not a measure of how much you get paid. There are cashiers smarter than neurosurgeons right now. There is no objective measure of the value any job brings. CEOs are NOT interested in providing reasonable wages.
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  22050. ​ @heels4lifx  there are many people who work minimum wage who are not in high school.
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  22051. That's messed up.
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  22052. Yep
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  22053. Yes. The poor.
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  22054.  @someguy782  some stupidity
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  22055. Politicians want to push people into poverty
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  22056. Sure did.
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  22057.  @ScottieWP09  this host seems decent.
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  22058. ​ @oofballz4328 you're a troll
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  22059. That's messed up
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  22060. I'm making $10.50/hr as a cashier. I receive no benefits. No way to pay for college.
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  22061. You can't force poor people to not have kids
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  22062. yep.
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  22063. Correct.
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  22064. Flawed metric. Also poverty line is artificially low.
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  22065. 400k is "middle class."
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  22066. No it isn't
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  22067. The rich love poverty it seems.
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  22068. Yep
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  22069. That reveals our country doesn't want to end poverty.
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  22070. Correct.
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  22071. I'm still a virgin.
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  22072.  @reneeschnarr6260  the implication to that is they believe poor women don't deserve to reproduce
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  22073. True. With money and time you don't have.
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  22074. That's messed up and literally causes people to die.
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  22075. I'm incel virgin at 29
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  22076. 15 is the new 7 25 thanks to inflation.
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  22077. I'm very intelligent and improving my social skills. I do admit I lack money and independence and am in poor physical shape. I want to lose my virginity SEVERELY.
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  22078. Exactly.
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  22079. ​@markg0410 you believe in just-world fallacy.
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  22080. Yep.
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  22081.  @mason4966  thanks. I just wish poverty could end.
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  22082. They can't live, it's why poor people such as myself use welfare
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  22083. ​ @theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 you're a troll
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  22084. That's disgusting
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  22085.  @GeekmomD  on one hand private health insurance companies provide higher quality care but only because they're greedy and refuse to help poor people. On the other hand government health insurance like Medicaid is horribly inefficient, but that's because the government knows if it is efficient then poor people like myself won't work for slave wages.
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  22086.  @GeekmomD  my replies are gone
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  22087.  @GeekmomD  basically rich people want to screw the poor over.
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  22088.  @GeekmomD  thank you
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  22089. Reading this made me cry
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  22090. I considered myself incel for so long because I was a virgin. I'm still a kissless virgin at 28 years old, and I'm male. It bothers me being a virgin daily. However, I have come a long way from being a NEET. I'm a cashier, student, and intern. I'm still poor so I have to do more change still.
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  22091. I still have no driver's license, car, house, or wealth. I can't take care of myself.
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  22092. That's awful.
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  22093. Rofl
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  22094. I've done all those things. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. Is it wrong to lose my virginity to a hooker?
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  22095. ​ @trappedinamerica7740  he means the job is "unskilled."
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  22096. ​ @seriejohnson698 minimum wage jobs don't offer health insurance.
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  22097. I'm on medicaid
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  22098. That is too many hours.
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  22099. ​ @bob7975 DING DING DING.
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  22100. ​ @bob7975 except rich people want poor people forced into low wage jobs
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  22101. ​ @bob7975 exactly
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  22102. This is a GREAT idea!
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  22103. Exactly. FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT
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  22104. You mean convert my savings into a foreign currency?
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  22105.  @Pushing_Pixels  i'm 29 and go to community college. Due to mistakes in my youth, I have to start my degree over. I have been given a chance to finish my degree/classes. My goal is to obtain a bachelor's in science/physics degree. I am poor like most incels, but I'm trying to change. apply to/win scholarships(it's better than minimum wage jobs). I got my driver's license at 28. I do want to live my life> I ultimately regret being poor, virgin, and behind in life. But i believe those are my problems to solve. Women aren't supposed to solve my probems for me.
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  22106.  @Pushing_Pixels  tldr I want to escape virginity and poverty.
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  22107. Thank you for your honesty
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  22108. Rich people deserve bailouts, poor people don't. - fox news mantra
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  22109. They want wage slaves.
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  22110. You'd interact with the negative matter lining the throat, killing you.
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  22111. ​ @blackcommunion3820 not one bit
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  22112. LOL.
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  22113. Yep
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  22114. Idk.
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  22115. Yep
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  22116. Epic
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  22117. That was an interesting read
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  22118.  @soundsgood5314  rofl
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  22119. Correct.
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  22120. With 4% inflation it's around $45/hr.
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  22121. Correct.
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  22122. They treat people that way to justify meritocracy.
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  22123. He wouldn't want his kids to work minimum wage period.
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  22124. Yep
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  22125. Because you and Farron cousins fail to realize something. Politicians are presented with a very simple choice: you can have worker solidarity exist or you can have poverty but you cannot have both. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to take, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our government treats as the risk they refuse to allow.
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  22126. You're correct
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  22127. Wrong mindset
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  22128.  @philip7654  that isn't how that works. And that dumb mindset is never used when the government helps someone that's a part of the billionaire class. Over $60 billion has been sent to Ukraine, over $800 billion goes to the military yearly, trillions of dollars of tax cuts have gone to the rich. Yet nobody bats an eye at that and says "well those Ukraine fighters aren't helping truckers. Those billionaires aren't helping everyday citizens." With $2 trillion in tax cuts given to the rich, you'd think Americans could do basic math and not complain about students getting pennies by comparison
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  22129.  @philip7654  I can't see my replies now
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  22130. Yep
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  22131. Accept this then
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  22132. If they did that then places that make millions of dollars at each location like Chic Fil A would be paying their cashiers around $100,000/year. Also, an Ohio pizza shop owner did that for one day, and his workers made $78/hr.
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  22133. Yep.
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  22134. This is nothing. Wars in the middle east were trillions. Trillions were spent on corporate subsidies, too. And tax cuts for the rich. And covid aid.
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  22135. This is about priorities.
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  22136. The loss of my mom and how it shook my foundation isn’t something I can easily ignore or forget. Her death forced me into a harsh reality—a reality where I no longer have the luxury of time or the comfort of someone guiding me through life. That pain is something no one should have to experience, and it makes every day harder to navigate. But this is where I find my strength. Her death, as brutal as it was, forced me to grow up in ways I didn’t want to. It’s the reason I can see the gaps in my life—the places where I’ve been drifting, where I’ve been avoiding the hard work. It’s the reason I know I can’t keep going on this path. I have a sense of urgency now because I understand what time really is, and what it costs. The truth is, I’m right. If I don’t push myself to grow now, by 33, I’ll stay the same. I’ll keep wishing, dreaming, and almost reaching for the life I want. But the clock is ticking, and the longer I delay it, the more I risk living a life filled with regret, knowing I could’ve turned things around, but I didn’t. My mom’s death was a turning point. Though it took away someone irreplaceable, it also opened up an opportunity—a painful but real opportunity—to make her sacrifice count. To push forward for her. To create something better than what I’ve been handed. It’s raw. It’s hard. It’s terrifying. But I have the fire inside of me, the reason, and the need to change. I can’t let it die with the pain. I have to let it be my driving force. It’s up to me to prove that her life, her love, her sacrifices weren’t in vain. I can make it to 33 and beyond, with everything I’ve dreamed for. But I have to act now—and make every moment count. My journey has to be different. It’s my path to walk, and only I can decide whether it will lead to growth or to another decade of missed chances. The urgency is real. The power to choose is mine.
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  22137. it is disgusting, but right wingers love poverty, they treat worker solidarity, not continued poverty, as intolerable.
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  22138. I hope to lose my virginity before I'm 30.
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  22139. ​ @karllogan8809 thank you
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  22140. ​ @PoliticallyAffiliated not everyone can be promoted out of low wage jobs. They aren't stepping stones for everyone.
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  22141. You can't get money out of politics. Money drives politics, like ideology.
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  22142. ​ @armyboy0579 I don't vote anymore.
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  22143. ​ @Hugo97HD I see.
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  22144.  @BB-rh2ml  it's in the form of weapons, but it's resources nonetheless.
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  22145.  @BB-rh2ml  my replies get deleted as of late.
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  22146. thank you.
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  22147. Yep
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  22148. I don't reject women.
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  22149. ​@censorship_cant_stop_truth2 that's because the jobs they have dont pay enough then. Ask yourself: would a neurosurgeon apply for food stamps even if there was a guarantee of success?
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  22150. The truth of our political values lies in the risks we refuse to accept, and it is rising worker power, not continued poverty, that our political and corporate leaders find unacceptable.
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  22151. they believe in the myth of equivalent exchange, that hard work in gives you an equivalent reward out, which is false. people don't work hard because it pays off, they work because they believe it will pay off, but equal effort does not always mean equal gain.
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  22152. Holy crap.
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  22153. Yep
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  22154. That's messed up.
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  22155. What?
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  22156. By that logic the Republicans would want to end poverty over night.
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  22157. The term handout is a moral term, used to imply poor people don't deserve government benefits. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. If you want to attract workers? PAY THEM MORE.
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  22158. Why is that an argument against a living wage now?
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  22159.  @kylemcdonnell86  not even can get ahead. Otherwise poverty wouldn't exist
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  22160. Ok
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  22161.  @Loquacious81  the whole debate is an hour long.
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  22162. Jesus. I wish i had that.
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  22163. Exactly.
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  22164. Correct. It requires a shift in our values.
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  22165.  @angelestorres6334  cnn
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  22166.  @angelestorres6334  cnn
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  22167.  @angelestorres6334  cnn
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  22168. The problem with your thinking is conservatives believe minimum wage workers deserve poverty,no matter how many hours they work
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  22169. Rich people will keep getting government money
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  22170. Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
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  22171. Nothing is priced for people making minimum wage.
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  22172.  @SomeCanine  the point is minimum wage workers can't afford to buy cars or homes. The price of housing has nothing to do with the paltry pay minimum wage workers receive.
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  22173.  @SomeCanine  I don't know why we're going around in circles here, you've proved my point. Worse, you've strengthened it: you/others believe poor people simply don't deserve to make a living wage(healthcare, housing, car, etc.) And I don't know what to tell you about this view except it's illogical, many Americans fiercely oppose a living wage (like to afford housing or cars) but also opposes welfare too. So the government provides financial assistance to people who don't make enough money to live, but also doesn't support a living wage. The argument breaks down in that loop
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  22174.  @SomeCanine  you think poverty persists because people buy nice TVs and cars? LOL. You can't possibly believe that. Even if you did, you must know there aren't enough skilled jobs for everyone.
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  22175.  @SomeCanine  by your own admission, making $7.25/hr is not enough to buy a house, much less build one from scratch. I have to make $6,000/month to afford a one bedroom apartment. That's way above even $20/hr.
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  22176.  @SomeCanine  that's still not enough to buy a house....or car...or healthcare...
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  22177.  @eseetv9341  you shouldn't need to be rich or athletic to go to college
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  22178. Obama is a criminal for that.
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  22179. Yep
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  22180. That's messed up
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  22181. Wow.
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  22182.  @jermainemyrn19  correct
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  22183. Oh okay
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  22184. My comment on this blew up.
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  22185. Entry level jobs are dead end and give you no skills.
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  22186. Correct.
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  22187. Yep.
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  22188. Exactly.​ @katelangworthy8698 
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  22189. ​ @TheRealLeahFarley that's messed up
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  22190. Yep.
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  22191. I agree with you, but a living wage minimum wage is still opposed by republicans knowing this.
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  22192. That's a separate problem...the lack of middle class jobs.
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  22193. ​ @brentoncarter4275 that's messed up
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  22194. I'm not using a hooker. Try again.
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  22195. Exactly. Don't forget mega corporations.
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  22196.  @berenicea.n.barkovitch7406  yes... It's all one big loop.
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  22197.  @kupidrosalindavateri3965  exactly. It's a catch 22.
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  22198. Because Republicans believe poor women don't deserve to have children.
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  22199. Thank you for your opinion and love for education. If only my state agreed with you.
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  22200. 1. If you're working for a profitable business why is expecting 100k wrong? Chic Fil A makes enough to pay their cashiers $100k a year. Are you upset cashiers there make nowhere near that?
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  22201.  @davidkeen4972  So if cashiers did make that much you'd be upset?
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  22202.  @davidkeen4972  Minimum wage Jobs are dead-end. Bagging groceries isn't paying you six figures(on skill level).
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  22203.  @davidkeen4972  why does poverty not upset you?
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  22204.  @davidkeen4972  half the country Is in poverty and millions more would be without welfare.
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  22205.  @davidkeen4972  the poverty level is kept artificially low because welfare costs state governments too much. 44% of the country makes 30k a year or less...so millions more don't fare much better.
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  22206.  @davidkeen4972  oops. I didn't see these responses.
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  22207.  @davidkeen4972  someone who has no support Making 10k is in poverty yes. I make 12k...I'm in poverty. It costs more in gas for me to travel to/from work than what I make from working.
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  22208.  @davidkeen4972  I do live with them but I still have bills to pay. I'm far older than 17.
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  22209.  @ArielHal9000  I agree.
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  22210. Because conservatives don't want to help everyone else.
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  22211.  @tioswift3676  most poor people do have jobs.
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  22212. Yep
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  22213. Because many Americans believe only the rich provide value.
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  22214. Ben knows..he just wants the poor to die off.
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  22215. ​ @subnaught thank you
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  22216. I just want to lose my virginity. I don't need therapy.
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  22217. Scholarships aren't taxable income.
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  22218. You're hinting at the 2 real reasons republicans hate welfare/government aid for the poor. 1. Republicans oppose policies that pull people out of poverty and create a middle class. 2. Scarcity: Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits. Point #1: they believe that rich people and business owners have "succeeded" in the "system that works," so any government help they receive is justified. Where as poor people have "failed, " so any government help they receive is a "handout. " It isn't about logic, but emotions and subjective ideas of right and wrong. I.e. just-world fallacy
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  22219. Point #2: the real political problem with robust welfare programs isn't the costs, but the benefits. Even if it costed $5 to provide sufficient government aid to all poor people nationwide, politicians won't do it for this reason. If poor people made enough money to afford healthcare, childcare, etc. Without working, then they will never work jobs that don't provide them with said things- like minimum wage jobs.
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  22220. Yep.
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  22221. Ok
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  22222. ​ @YTsupportsZionaziGenocide  because it's not about economics, it's about ideology. It's called just-world fallacy. Republicans believe that rich people and business owners have succeeded in the system that works, so when they make a mistake they deserve to get bailed out due to their success. Where as poor people have failed, so any government help they receive is a handout.
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  22223. I'm still a virgin. When I lose my virginity, I'll escape my inceldom.
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  22224.  @OccidentalAryan  Okay.
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  22225.  @OccidentalAryan  a hooker's only motivation for sleeping with me is money. I still wouldn't have attracted a woman. That doesn't solve anything.
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  22226. Inflation happened regardless of the minimum wage increase. A $400k house isn't being bought by a cashier.
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  22227. That very first sentence perpetuates poverty, and you don't even realize it. I'm poor but can't get food stamps because I'm enrolled in community college. Congress, decades ago, was afraid middle class students would use food stamps. AND that college students are like in movies-18-25, supported by their parents, have no income or dependent, and attend full-time. I am none of those things, but I'm ineligible. Screw means testing. Poor people like myself are not dogs. We can be trusted with money
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  22228. If you're using the degree for employment...that's the purpose of a degree, no? Increase your education or responsibility to get paid more.
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  22229.  @cindyp5132  wow
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  22230. ​ @cindyp5132 yep
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  22231. I would start my own but i'm not famous.
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  22232.  @nope5657  fair point. I guess noone is stopping me besides myself.
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  22233.  @nope5657  retype.
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  22234.  @brandonfitzgerald1457  Thanks for your advice.
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  22235. Yep.
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  22236. ​ @ultramaga813 lol
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  22237. ​ @WesTheHunter  I was incel
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  22238. Yep
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  22239. I'm trying to finish community college while in poverty
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  22240. Except they're career paths for many people now. We deal with how things are, not on how we want things to be. According to your logic, since there shouldn't be crime, we can ignore any and all real crime and abolish the criminal justice system.
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  22241. You're also saying it's important to sustain businesses and reduce inflation than to fight against poverty.
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  22242. You also believe in just-world fallacy. If all low wage workers tried their hardest tomorrow, they're not all going to be promoted at once.
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  22243. Yep.
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  22244. It can happen
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  22245. Greed is a choice
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  22246. Exactly
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  22247. I LOVE IT TOO!
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  22248. He lost the popular vote
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  22249. Canceling loans doesn't increase taxes.... And maybe college shouldn't be outrageous in price anyway.
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  22250.  @HunterPhenomMakoy  yes....
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  22251. ​ @aaggsmyhoopt2428 wow
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  22252. ​ @justiceforartpop6600 yep.
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  22253. ​ @Pencil-o1p that shouldn't be the question to ask. Ask what the benefits are: a more educated populace less reliant on welfare.
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  22254.  @jayy3c  that's not a degree
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  22255.  @gasoline3597  it means free at the point of service. Taxpayer funded.
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  22256. Because politicians don't care about ending poverty because ending poverty would give workers power.
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  22257.  @evanpowers1537  that's worse.
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  22258. They DO care They want people in poverty to coerce poor people into minimum wage jobs
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  22259. Then women don't deserve to vote.
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  22260. ​ @skinnykid8524  he gains nothing.
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  22261. ​ @skinnykid8524  I'm American and I can tell you what the problem is: Americans hate the poor.
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  22262. that's messed up.
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  22263. They make 70-80%of sales from SNAP. They offer benefits only if you're full-time. There Is no pathway to promotion. No way to pay for college.
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  22264. Yep
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  22265.  @Bookhardtsbooks  that's cruel and wrong.
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  22266. ​ @giglioflex  yes
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  22267. So this is a moral issue to you then: you believe poor people don't deserve to make that much money.
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  22268.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  Yes, it is about morals. Actors and news anchors and journalists, to name a few, are jobs that don't require degrees or certifications, pay people millions of dollars per year, yet they are not treated with disdain like fast food workers are. On some level, people see fast food workers as inferior. That being said, minimum wage jobs are dead-end and give you no skills. So how can you criticize fast food workers for not having the skills needed to make more money, but also understand that fast food jobs are dead-end and give you no skills in the first place?
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  22269.  @sinappanis  entry level jobs don't give you skills. Not everyone can move up to higher positions. There aren't enough slots for everyone to do that. So how do you move up when everyone can't do that? Everyone can't go to college either. People seem to forget that there are more minimum wage jobs than career jobs at these places and in the economy in general.
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  22270.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  1. Fast food jobs give you no skills 2. Then people prefer having cheap prices over workers having a living wage 3. Who would fill these jobs if everyone gained skills?(Which not everyone can do)
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  22271.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  what? I just asked what skills fast food jobs give you. They don't give you skills by definition. I'm not forcing others to do anything. All I'm saying in this minimum wage debate is that all priorities are not created equal. If ending poverty was the top priority, then magnified inflation and unemployment would be prices people would be willing to pay. They are not willing to pay these prices. Therefore, ending poverty is not their top priority. You can sugarcoat it by talking about cheap prices, or skills, but bottom line is many people are demanding that workers don't get paid more.
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  22272.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  okay then.
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  22273.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  I'm not dumb. I understand astrophysics. That being said, thanks for the conversation.
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  22274.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  I guess I'm upset I have to struggle while in college pursuing my physics degree. I want life to be easier, but I guess I must earn a decent life, not be handed it.
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  22275.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  I read your edited comment
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  22276.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  YouTube keeps deleting my comments so I hope you see this. I'm 29. I'm in community college now. I didn't obtain my physics degree when I was younger because I chose to take care of my mom over pursuing school. It froze my life and now I'm ten years behind. She passed away last year as well. Life is so hard going on without her. I was able to win/earn scholarships and grants that have helped pay for alot of my school. It isn't fair she got sick and passed away. It isn't fair I chose her over school and being punished for it. But you know what? I'm 29 now. I'm not a child. It's up to me to decide whether I really want to obtain my physics degree, and make more money. I will make it as long as I stay the course. I won't give up and keep feeling sorry for myself. Working while in school sucks but I can make it.
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  22277.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  everyone cannot go to college or be an engineer, not should they have to. What happens when everyone actually becomes an engineer? Then people will complain that there is nobody to work for fast food. That being said, I'll keep pursuing a physics degree and independence.
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  22278.  @beautifully_scarred_lea  I'll grow up and earn a decent life.
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  22279. Exactly.
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  22280. The problem is conservatives believe cashiers are a worthless job.
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  22281. Because Republicans are brainwashed into thinking they'll be rich one day too
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  22282. Nope. My mom is dead.
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  22283. I'm a kissless virgin at 28. What am I doing wrong?
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  22284. ​@stevemalek2970 if all colleges are too expensive, what course of action do you take to go to a college that's cheap?
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  22285. Wtf $4 MILLION?!
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  22286. Politicians want poverty to empower corporations.
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  22287. ​ @rridderbusch518 yep.
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  22288. Poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
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  22289.  @javalily  that's messed up.
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  22290. I want to be a tv journalist....
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  22291. LOL.
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  22292. You're right I sit at home and don't socialize
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  22293. Do women get rejected?
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  22294.  @YASMINOGBU  I'm sorry for being hateful and childish.
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  22295.  @YASMINOGBU  I will stay hopeful. I know I'll lose my virginity one day(not to a prostitute).
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  22296.  @YASMINOGBU  you'd be happy for me if I lost my vCard? Or found love? That's great!
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  22297. Physics has reached a dead-end since nobody can build a Planck energy collider.
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  22298. ​ @MiketheNerdRanger yep
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  22299. ​ @michaelcollins8328 because poverty is a policy choice.
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  22300. ​ @michaelcollins8328 politicians have no desire to end poverty because, without it, corporations couldn't control workers.
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  22301. Thune also relied on his parents and had no crushing student loans.
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  22302. It's called just world fallacy.
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  22303.  @lauraprosser5084  just world fallacy.
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  22304. That's messed up.
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  22305. Yep.
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  22306. They had to work 480 hours then. 5600 hours now.
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  22307. I just turned 29. I'm an HHKV. I don't have a job, but I go to community College, I have a driver's license, and I'm working on car ownership. I'm poor, and lack independence, but I'm changing that. I want to lose my virginity. I want a woman to teach me sex. I have no standards, but I'm lazy and don't approach women.
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  22308. Brother reading that made me cry. Because you are right. I'm an incel virgin because I have a vile personality, I'm lazy, and unwilling to change. It's all my fault.
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  22309. I cried reading this.
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  22310. They want to blame poor people.
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  22311. Money is part of politics.
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  22312. Yep
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  22313. He knows this. He just doesn't care
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  22314. yes. it's messed up.
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  22315. Yep
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  22316. Why didn't Obama care mandate healthcare for workers regardless of hours worked?
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  22317. Brain cells? Who has them?
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  22318. @peterroberts4415  many other jobs pay below cost of living wages, not just cashiers.
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  22319. @antonioiniguez1615  since I'm in school, by definition, I cannot work jobs that require the very schooling I'm currently doing. That would be like medical schools only accepting applicants that already have medical degrees. I need a form of income to survive. Financial Aid and pell grants have not been increased to the point of covering living expenses in my state. Federal work study jobs pay me less than even the cashier job did. The internship I did paid $1,000/semester. Even babysitters make more than that.
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  22320. @antonioiniguez1615  if that was doable, then the working poor wouldn't exist. Just say you're comfortable with cashiers not making enough money to eat.
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  22321. @antonioiniguez1615  Yes, I did. Because it's all I can handle doing while in school. And not everyone (even people who aren't in school) can move up. And what's wrong with them wanting to make more money? What's wrong with being upset at a literal $0.50 raise? Hell, some people get a raise of $0.05.
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  22322.  @antonioiniguez1615  just because that's what they are dealing ahead of time with doesn't make it right. And like I said in OP, cashiers don't have enough bargaining power to make more money on their own.
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  22323.  @antonioiniguez1615  you still need food whether you work for 6 months or 6 years. There's no "off switch" just because a job isn't meant to be long-term.
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  22324.  @antonioiniguez1615  being a cashier is doing something.... And I'm going to school. How is that not enough? Do that and work and you still admonish people?
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  22325.  @reasonerenlightened2456  hello. Was I arguing poorly?
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  22326.  @reasonerenlightened2456  exactly. How you support a right to life but oppose a living wage?
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  22327.  @dandotvid  okay.
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  22328. Wow.
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  22329. @MsQ275  because I'm a broke college student and the only jobs I can do are minimum wage jobs and internships, that don't pay enough to afford healthcare?
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  22330.  @CandiceMMartinez  wow
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  22331. ​ @PercivalFakeman exactly
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  22332. Correct.
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  22333. Hello pot, meet kettle.
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