Comments by "Zahara Bar David" (@zaharabardavid) on "SO BE IT!"
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@D18.21 Rashi agrees with you. "The hidden things belong to the Lord, our God: Now, you might object [to God, saying]: “But what can we do? You punish the entire community because of the sinful thoughts of an individual, as Scripture says, ‘Perhaps there is among you a man…’ (verse 17 above), and after this, Scripture continues, ‘Seeing the plagues of that land [and the diseases with which the Lord struck it]’ (verse 21) [which seems to indicate that for the sinful thought of even one individual, the whole land would be struck down with plagues and diseases]. But surely no man can know the secret thoughts of his fellow [that we could somehow prevent this collective punishment!” In answer to this, God says:] “I will not punish you for the hidden things!” [I.e.,] because “[The hidden things] belong to the Lord, our God,” and He will exact punishment upon that particular individual [who sins in secret]. However, “the revealed things apply to us and to our children” [that is, we are responsible for detecting the sins committed openly in our community, and] to eradicate any evil among us. And if we do not execute judgment upon these [open transgressions, over which we do have control,], then the whole community will be punished [because they would be remiss in their responsibility]. There is a dot placed over [each letter of] the words לָנוּ וּלְבָנֵינוּ here, to teach us homiletically that even for open sins [which were not brought to judgment, God] did not punish the whole community-until Israel crossed the Jordan. For then, they accepted upon themselves the oath at Mount Gerizim and Mount Ebal, and thereby [formally] became responsible for one another (Sanh. 43b). [When dots are placed over letters of the Torah, this denotes an exclusion of some sort. In our context, our Rabbis teach us that the exclusion refers to the period prior to the crossing of the Jordan.]"
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@kriegjaeger You are wrong. We can be forgiven without someone being crucified. I wouldn't want an innocent person to be crucified for me. That's disgusting for me. I will confess my sin to G-d, I will make teshuvah and He will forgive me. Period. Very simple concept. "When G-d saw what they did, how they turned from their evil way, G-d repented of the evil which He had said He would do to them; and He did not do it". [Jonah 3:10]
The people of Nineveh did not perform any sacrifices. They did much the same as the Jews do all over the world on the Day of Atonement, spending the day in prayer and fasting. The People of Nineveh were forgiven for their sins without the need of any blood sacrifice, just as we, now, are forgiven for our sins without the need of any blood sacrifice.
Most people are aware of the function of the scapegoat described in Leviticus 16:20-22. The sins of the people were symbolically placed on the head of the goat who was then banished to the wilderness. Even though the ritual described in the Bible does not call for the goat to be killed, even though there was no blood sacrifice, the sins of the people were forgiven.
Similarly, most people know that the blood sacrifices were to take place only in the Temple which was built by Solomon. In I Kings 8:44, Solomon dedicates the Temple to the One True Gd, the only Temple on Earth dedicated to the One True Gd. At that dedication, Solomon states that there would come a time when the Jews, as a result of their sins, would be exiled from the Promised Land. He prayed that when they were in the land of their enemies, that all they would have to do to be forgiven of their sins was to pray, and to pray towards the Temple (which is why Synagogues and Temples face East, when they are in the West), to repent of their sins, and to stop sinning, just as we learned above from Jonah.
If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near; Yet if they shall bethink themselves in the land whither they were carried captives, and repent, and make supplication unto thee in the land of them that carried them captives, saying, We have sinned, and have done perversely, we have committed wickedness; And so return unto thee with all their heart, and with all their soul, in the land of their enemies, which led them away captive, and pray unto thee toward their land, which thou gavest unto their fathers, the city which thou hast chosen, and the house which I have built for thy name: Then hear thou their prayer and their supplication in heaven thy dwelling place, and maintain their cause, And forgive thy people that have sinned against thee, and all their transgressions wherein they have transgressed against thee, and give them compassion before them who carried them captive, that they may have compassion on them. [1 Kings 8:46-50]
The interesting thing about the above verses is that Solomon, who offered this prayer at the dedication of the very place where the blood sacrifices were to be offered, had to have known that a blood sacrifice was not necessary for atonement. Had he felt that a blood sacrifice was, in fact, necessary, he would not have bothered praying this prayer. Indeed, Gd does forgive our sins and grant us atonement when we repent, when we confess our sins, when we pray for forgiveness, and when we do not do the sin, again, when given the chance.
There are many other places in the Bible where the sins were forgiven without the need of a blood sacrifice of an animal. For example, if you wish to look up in the Bible these nine quotations you can read this for yourself: Numbers 31:50; Hosea 6:6; Hosea 14:1-2; Micah 6:6-8; Jeremiah 18:1-8; Jeremiah 29:10-14; Psalm 51:15-17; Psalm 69:30-32; and Ezekiel 18:20-22.
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@pepepena1937 And how can you believe in a book where the 4 New Testament gospel writers contradict each other? What time was Jesus crucified?
Matthew: Not mentioned
Mark 15:25 A) 9:00 am — “It was the THIRD hour when they crucified him.”
Luke Not mentioned
John 19:14-15A) 12:00 pm noon — "Jesus was not crucified until after the SIXTH hour!"
What day was he crucified?
Matthew: 26:20-30 The first day of Passover, 15th day of Nissan.
Mark 14:17-25 The first day of Passover, 15th day of Nissan.
Luke 22:14-23 The first day of Passover, 15th day of Nissan
John 13:1. 29. 18:28, 19:14 The day before Passover, 14th day of Nissan.
What did they give him on the cross to drink?
Matthew 27:37 Wine mixed with gall.
Mark 15:23 Jesus was offered wine mixed with myrrh
Luke 23:36 Vinegar (sour wine)
John 19:29-30 Vinegar (sour wine)
What were Jesus’ last dying words on the cross?
Matthew 27:46“Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” That is, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”
Mark 15:34 “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” Meaning, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”
Luke 23:46“Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.”
John 19:30 “It is finished”
When did Mary prepare the spices?
Matthew: Not mentioned
Mark 16:1 Mary prepared the spices after the Sabbath was over.
Luke 26:56 Mary prepared the spices before the Sabbath started.
John 19:39 Nicodemus, not Mary, prepared the spices before the Sabbath.
I could continue typing all the contradictions in your Christian bible but it's exhausting. There's a reason Zechariah 8:23 says "So said the Lord of Hosts: In those days, when ten men of all the languages of the nations shall take hold of the skirt of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you."
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