Comments by "Aidan B" (@aidanb58) on "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Does Not Understand Capitalism or Socialism | Short Clips" video.
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@albertgreen8347 Albert Green Ok, first off, that just isn't true. He didn't choose that name, he literally joined a party of socialists that he murdered. All of them. Look up the night of the long knives. And he wasn't socialist because he refused to implement actual socialist policies, he just relied on capitlaist ones.
But next, just saying all of those things do not equate to socialism, many capitalist countries havedone similar. Alos, "defects and eugenics" have never been a left wing idea. Ever. We always go for kropotkin biology, not Darwin.
I say the second claim is true because that's what they admitted to themselves... not the people they were propagandizing.
But, if you want to see hitler quotes, let's see my reasoning, shall we?
"Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the (Capitalist-Libertarian) Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. "
In this quote, hitler quite easily shows his true colors. He likes "socialism," but his version of socialism is the opposite of everything Marx said it was - it is right wing. Better yet, it's also just capitalism. He quite literally says here that his ideology does not go against property rights or individualism, rather, it is in favor of them. He closes out by saying that if he had not chosen this name, he would have chosen a more accurate name. The remains of the party he discussed here are still around, and they're called the Freie Demokratische Partei... which is a right wing capitalist party.
This is what he had to say about entrepreneurs...
"They have worked their way to the top by their own abilities, and this proof of their capacity – a capacity only displayed by a higher race – gives them the right to lead."
Doesn't sound very "collectivist" to me, does it? Nope, it isn't. He's literally praising individuals, and their effort within private property. That's quite literally the opposite of collectivism. He echoed that sentiment in several other quotes, like
"I want everyone to keep the property he has acquired for himself..."
"As National Socialists, our hearts are full with admiration and respect for the great achievements of the past, not only in our own people but also far beyond. We are happy to belong to an European cultural community that has so tremendously embossed today's world with a stamp of its mind. Bolshevism rejects this cultural achievement of mankind, claiming that has found the beginning of the real cultural and human history in the year of birth of Marxism. We, National Socialists, do not want to be of the same opinion as our church organizations in this or that organizational question. But we never want a lack of belief in religion or any faith, and do not wish that our churches become club-houses or cinemas. Bolshevism teaches the godlessness and acts accordingly. We National Socialists see in private property a higher level of human economic development that according to the differences in performance controls the management of what has been accomplished enabling and guaranteeing the advantage of a higher standard of living for everyone. Bolshevism destroys not only private property but also private initiative and the readiness to shoulder responsibility."
In this quote, hitler admits that his ideology is one of patriotism, one that rejects the notions of pure atheism... and one that respects private property. All of these arguments are ones republicans still use to this day against any forms of leftism. And they learned them all from hitler. Oh, and here's a quote of him literally admitting his ideology is not left wing.
"'Socialist' I define from the word 'social; meaning in the main ‘social equity’. ...Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false."
He uses the term "true socialism" as an oxymoron, here, but more importantly, we can now tell how he defines it. So now, whenever you hear hitler say "Socialism"... realize he defined socialism as a right wing ideology that was individualist and had nothing to do with actual socialist ideals.
And that's the key in all of this. Hitler called his ideals socialism despite hating any and all socialism for the same reasons republicans hate it today. He did this not because he was a socialist, but because he wanted to fool idiots into supporting his party. His first actions were quite literally to kill every socialist in his party, and every communist as well. When the capitalists like Ford or GM or Koch Sr. came, he welcomed them with open arms. Some of the greatest projects of nazi germany were built voluntarily by rich, right wing capitalists, who believed every word he said. Did you know that Ford wrote a book in which he praised not only hitler, but hitler's polcies when it came to individualism and private property? Hitler was so proud of this book that he had it be sold on every street corner, and a copy would often come with the purchase of a car in Nazi germany. People like Churchill, brash conservatives, would praise Hitler frequently. Even capitalists philosophers, like Mises and Friedman, would not only work for fascist economies but would praised the leadership of Hitler and Mussolini, calling them the perfect right-wing answer to the rise of communist though in europe. It's also important to mention that the founding text of fascism also placed the ideology on the right wing, saying ""We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right,' a fascist century".Mussolini agreed with this, saying " "Fascism, sitting on the right, could also have sat on the mountain of the center ... These words in any case do not have a fixed and unchanged meaning: they do have a variable subject to location, time and spirit. We don't give a damn about these empty terminologies and we despise those who are terrorized by these words". As I said earlier, fascism was formed as a primarily right wing ideology. A man is often mentioned named Giovanni, in an attempted to call fascism left wing. He co-wrote the book that founded fascism... and called it right wing. ""We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right,' a fascist century"." Alongside that, several other founders of fascism, such as Julius Evola, called themselves both conservatives and fascists for the majority of their lives. As i said earlier, fascism was also founded with influence of other right wing figures, like the ruling of Naopleon the 3rd. Even talking about more than policy, the fascists were right wing. They had the biggest example of privatization in modern history (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1468-0289.2009.00473.x), were funded primarily by the private market and voluntary business association (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany#Privatization_and_business_ties) and believed in social darwinism. In case you didn't know, socialists hate social darwinism - they all subscribe to the Theory of Mutual Aid, put forth by kropotkin. The two ideas are quite literally opposite. In any case, aside from all this, hitler did frequently talk about other republican talking points, like the success of private property, his love for the traditional family, religion, the individual, and how much he loved western civilization.
That is the man you call a socialist. A self-described capitlalist individualist who admitted he had nothing to do with socialism.
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@MrTassadarzo Mate literally none of those countries are socialist. You just keep lying don't you?
Where would you rather live?
Capitalist countries: Venezuela, North Korea, Nicaragua, Laos, Cuba, Vietnam, El Salvador, Bangladesh, Guyana, China, Ethiopia, Uruguay, Tanzania, United States of America, Japan, Germany, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore, UK, Switzerland, South Korea, Australia, Ireland, Canada, Taiwan, Denmark, Iceland, Peru, Sweden, Chile, Netherlands.
Or nothing else
Capitalism hasn't granted freedom, it has destroyed it and left you with stockholm syndrome.
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@MrTassadarzo Ah more lies. The USSR was state capitalist, first, but you don't seem to realize that the usa stole that same technology.
The USSR achieved nearly every achievement in the pace race, and all americans did was put a man on the moon. You missed every hurdle put the last one. Most of your achievements listed are demonstrably false, and aside from that, did nothing to actually move technology forward.
And bud, you're wrong. Well, actually, they were better fed in some cases. This is backed up by a STUDY BY THE CIA, which I will link. Everything you've said so far is demonstrably false.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP84B00274R000300150009-5.pdf
Oh, also, Cortez's new deal is capitalist. It's closer to capitalism than you would ever give it credit for. You're just jealous that she's found success in capitalism and you have not.
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