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No, it's just that the people giving him money are the same ones he helped out while in office and he is still a leader of the party. They are paying him back for the help he's given them. This is corruption. Stop making this about race. Corruption matters whatever color you are. If he was making money in a legitimate way, like writing a book or speaking to his constituents which he lied to and failed, then there would be no problem. Obama is just another Wall Street puppet who didn't keep any of his campaign promises. He also expanded Guantanamo, didn't prosecute the bankers who caused the crash, expanded the NSA and CIA domestic spying programs, supported TPP, didn't push hard for new gun restrictions, didn't get the single payer program when we had a super majority, threw away the public option and not only didn't end Bush's insane needless wars but got us into 4 more. Maybe you're not liberal or informed enough. Stop glorifying Obama just because he's black. He's also a liar and a fraud. he already has a $65 million book deal, and he needs another half mil from a bank???? That should matter more to you. Did you not watch the video?
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Ok, my other take from it, at least the part I can understand, is that you say that "the problem with progressives/ collectivist thinking, you're not individualist you lump everyone in a group," while not realizing that you are indeed lumping all progressives into a group. You literally commit the same act you are railing against in the very same sentence. Also, what is a troll account? Like, you think I have one account for watching youtube and one just for making a-hole replies? Nope, this is my only one, so if what I'm saying is too scary for you to read, you can indeed block me, but that would be an acknowledgement of defeat. If all you can do in response to your critics is silence them, your argument isn't very good, is it?
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Well, let's do the math to see if the numbers are made up, yes? The Diablo Canyon Power Plant produces
"18,000 GW·h/year
of electricity annually, about 8.6% of the electricity California uses,
supplying the electrical needs of more than 3 million people."
source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_Canyon_Power_Plant
It takes 2.8 acres of solar panels to generate 1 GWh/year, 1/18,000 what the plant generates
source - http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2013/08/calculating-solar-energys-land-use-footprint.html
So, to produce 18,000 GWh/year, you would need 2.8 acres * 18,000, so 50,400 acres of solid, wall to wall solar panels of the best available kind. Of course, you'd need space for acess roads and such, so a bit larger. Call it 60,000 acres. Yes, the OP exagerated a bit, but that's still a very large area. Not to mention you already have the plant, you;d have to buy the panels, and they'd have to be the best ones.
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Jesus would deny healthcare to Canaanite children whose mothers didn't admit to being dogs:
Matthew
15:22
And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying,
Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed
with a devil.
15:23
But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him,
saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
15:25
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
15:26
But he answered and
said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
15:27
And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
15:28
Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it
unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very
hour.
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littlebecomesmuch
re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
noun: religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
If you believe in any gods, you're religious by definition. It doesn't matter if you do or do not subscribe to any particular set of beliefs, if they are supernatural in nature and involve gods, it's a religious belief. Throwing away most or all of the canon of the christian faith and either cherry picking or assigning values to your idea of a god doesn't make your position any more logical or founded on evidence.
The fact is, there is not one single mystery that has ever been solved that turned out to be magic and not one supernatural religious claim has ever shown to be true. Even if you are a deist and just have some vague feeling that there should be a creator for something so big as the universe because, "How else could it get there?" you're just using the argument from ignorance fallacy. There are no gods, no leprechauns, no Santa Claus nor is there a cat-eating-alien named Alf . I can say this because these claims are not backed by evidence, the time to believe in something is when you have evidence of such.
Only religion can make otherwise good people do horrific acts such as this, as only religion can get you to throw away your logical reasoning; to no longer require evidence for your beliefs means that you can starve a toddler to death or burn a woman alive or crush a man to death for being a witch. Religion, in all its forms, is evil because it is the enemy of logic.
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Thexdmattx
Wrong about the heart skipping a beat:"When you sneeze, the intrathoracic pressure in your body momentarily increases. This will decrease the blood flow back to the heart. The heart compensates for this by changing its regular heart beat momentarily to adjust. However, the electrical activity of the heart does not stop during the sneeze."-http://www.uamshealth.com/heartmyth
Wrong about origin of the phrase:"The phrase has been used in the Hebrew Bible by Jews (cf. Numbers 6:24), and by Christians, since the time of the early Church as a benediction, as well as a means of bidding a person Godspeed.[4][5] Many clergy, when blessing their congregants individually or corporately, use the phrase "God bless you".[6]
National Geographic reports that during the plague of AD 590, "Pope Gregory I ordered unceasing prayer for divine intercession. Part of his command was that anyone sneezing be blessed immediately ("God bless you"), since sneezing was often the first sign that someone was falling ill with the plague."[7] By AD 750, it became customary to say "God bless you" as a response to one sneezing.[8]"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_bless_you
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Mephistahpheles
Believing in things for which there is no evidence because they make you happy is not valid reasoning to believe in something and once you teach someone to believe in things without evidence, you've entered very dangerous territory as beliefs inform actions. I have no need to disprove your claims as you have not supported them at all and they can therefore be dismissed. The reason the OP said that god must be complex and therefore must have a complex nature is that theists claim that since the universe is complex, it therefor it must have a creator (watchmaker fallacy). Refuting his point only serves to refute the theist point as he was simply using an extension of their logic to defeat them. Your attempt to further extend the logic however is self defeating, because if either god did not need a complex creator or god is not necessarily complex, then the universe did not even need a complex cause or creator and could have arisen naturally. As to refute your claim that unicorns and gods cannot be proven, you'd simply have to find unicorns somewhere or a being that could demonstrate powers only a god could have, like creating universe at will or juggling galaxies or turning all of space into Swiss cheese. It's not hard to prove positives. Further, if we're talking about Yahweh and not a god in general, Yahweh is disprovable. He didn't exist and was plagiarized from the Sumerian war god. He also makes mistakes, yet is supposed to be omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent.
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+TheMadMattster Probably not. It's a meme to say something terrible then attribute it to Sargon since he's such a shitbag it's usually believable. You'll usually get top comment. For example:
"I assure you that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled ...”- Sargon of Akkad
Or
“In completion of the task
which was entrusted to you in the Edict dated January 24, 1939, of
solving the Jewish Problem by means of emigration or evacuation in the
most convenient way possible, given the present conditions, I herewith
charge you with making all necessary preparations with regard to
organizational, practical and financial aspects for a total solution of
the Jewish Problem in the German sphere of influence in Europe…"- Sargon of Akkad
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After much consideration and emotional discussion, the House of
Representatives passed the North American Free Trade Agreement
Implementation Act on November 17, 1993, 234-200. The agreement's
supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed
the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61-38.[6]
Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats. Clinton signed
it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on
January 1, 1994.[7][8]
Clinton, while signing the NAFTA bill, stated that "NAFTA means jobs.
American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I
wouldn't support this agreement."[9]
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It isn't a strawman if the contention of the OP is that only white people can feel this way. If you are saying that a certain group acts or behaves in a certain way because of the color of their skin, then you are making a racists generalization. Just because you are referring to white only people in this situation, even if it is true, means that it is racist because you are basing the generalization on race. Further, even if you make a positive generalization about race, it's still racism, like saying Asians are better at math or black people are best at certain sports. A better statment would have been that many "*people* see racism as conscious hate..." What, you don't think there are tons of conservative Latinos, Asians, and black folk that hold conservative views that feel the same way? The only reason Latinos even vote Democrat is because the Republicans hate them so much, many of them come from religious backgrounds and hold the same conservative views.
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+Tarman I am explicitly stating that the state did exactly what the criminal did and is equally a murderer. The death penalty is illogical. Killing a person who is in custody serves one purpose only: revenge. Revenge is illogical and the government shouldn't be using tax dollars for illogical, murderous revenge. This isn't the Dark Ages, we don't take an eye-for-an-eye and the government killing someone definitely qualifies as "cruel and unusual punishment" in a world where execution is nearly unheard in industrialized nations.
Arguments for cost savings are disgusting as you're arguing that money>life, which isn't relevant to whether the state can kill people in any case and isn't true either. Executions take more money to prosecute because of the lengthy appeals process. If you shorten this appeals process, you increase the number of innocent people the state murders in addition to those they murder who committed crimes. The death penalty is also not a deterrent. Someone who kills and rapes 20 women does it knowing fully well what the consequences are if they are of sound mind; killing them in the past hasn't stopped future murders, has it? The death penalty is illogical in that the criminal isn't a threat any longer as they are in custody, it costs more, and it kills innocent people just like the people you claim to be trying to stop and it doesn't even serve as a deterrent. Further, if you really do want them to suffer, don't you think decades in prison is worse? Plus, if it turns out they didn't do it, you can release them. You can un-execute someone if they are exonerated after the fact.
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Serene Stardust
Current understanding of the etiology of obesity: genetic and non-genetic factors.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/53/6/1561S.short
Genetic factors of overweight and obesity http://obesity.ulaval.ca/obesity/generalities/genetic.php
Genetics of obesity and the prediction of risk for health
http://hmg.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/suppl_2/R124.full
Also, these Christians should know that they shouldn't be shaving their heads. Leviticus 19:27 "'Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."
Don't make fun of Christian baldys though: 2 Kings 2:23-24 "as he (Elisha) was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
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@AlexanderStone I already explained that appeals to authority with no evidence to back their claims is no better than you yourself making the claim. You've supported your claim in literally no way at all. I'm not hiding behind Occam's Razor, I'm standing beside the burden of proof, laughing at your dumb ass. All you have to do is link me one peer reviewed source to back your idiocy and you've won. You can't because you don't have anything and you know it, so you play games like this. It's so sad and obvious.
Next try to claim there's a worldwide conspiracy to cover up the evidence, another extraordinary claim requiring yet more extraordinary evidence. Your whole mindset operates on logical fallacy. The worst part is that I personally totally believe that aliens are real, just that they are not visiting us due to the vast distances and time involved in space travel. This is what the evidence so far has shown. You can pretend all you want, but you're not fooling anyone who understands the burden of proof.
If some dude saying something is true is your standard as it seems then you should believe any person, ever. You clearly do hold this view as you think that Niel Degrass Tyson or Bill Nye matter at all in science or that their word is the basis of anything, ever. It's not. Science is never based upon the word of anyone but what they can show to be true. If you can't show it, Alex, you don't know it.
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Man Guy
Yeah, who do you think comes if you do somehow kill a police department? Yeah, the National Guard. Somehow defeat the National Guard unit through truly miraculous tactics? Then comes the Army. Think you can fight the US Army? Look up some thermal image cameras of what it's like when ground troops are fighting attack helicopters. Also, the general public will not be fighting with you, you're a lone nut. Even if you got 10% of the US to fight on your side somehow with a fucking magic lamp, they've still got enough nukes to sterilize the planet. If all countries in the world attacked the US at once, with all their armies and navies, the US would still be able to achieve a Pyrrhic victory. Why do you think you and your buddies with their AR-15s are anything more than sickly gnats in comparison? There is nothing you can do to directly confront the enemy that does not help him. The only way is through legal protest. But don't believe me, try it, I'm sure you won't even make front page. Believe me, I too believe the only good pig is a dead one, but we can't win that way.
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So your argument is that you would die? You didn't provide any solution to warlords killing your society. They don't care if killing non-violent people, they aren't Mr. Rogers, they're warlords. Would Genghis Khan care about your system of non-violence and co-operation? Would he view it as a loss after he killed you all and took your women for slaves and everything you owned? Also, again, you are not leaving our system, if you are within US borders, you are still benefiting from the system, remember the lack of savages killing you? That's because there are local and state governments al around you that prevent that. Where will you get materials like metal if not from our system? You surely cannot organize a mining and smelting operation large enough to support the metal needs for your settlement, and the resources probably aren't all available locally. Is your plan to live at a stone age level or do you have some sort of way of attaining resources without a government to protect you from savages? Do you think that somehow warlike groups would not form in the absence of government? Evidence proves otherwise. Man lived in anarchy for hundreds of thousands of years, you have heard of the Stone Age, no? No society can exist in an actual anarchy as there is no one to stop people from being assholes. In your fantasy, what got rid of the assholes who would like to kill you and take your stuff? Do you somehow think you can reason with them? Have you even seen The Road Warrior? That's what an anarchy looks like, scraping by with the leftovers of society and trying to fight of murderers.
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Thomas He's a fascist. Racism is pretty much a given when you're a a fascist as you need a group to scapegoat.
fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun
noun: fascism; noun: Fascism; plural noun: Fascisms
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms:authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More
Nazism, rightism;
nationalism, xenophobia, racism, anti-Semitism;
jingoism, isolationism;
neofascism, neo-Nazism
"a film depicting the rise of fascism in the 1930s"
(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.
Yeah, he's for an authoritarian, right wing government and has pledged to violate international law and the Constitution if elected. You seem to be the one who misunderstands fascism.
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This still is not a point that shows that antidepressants are a leading cause of suicide. Also, children have different brain chemistry than adults, which is why the FDA has issued warnings about people under 25 taking them after researching the problem. Here's a nice article for you to read http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/child-and-adolescent-mental-health/antidepressant-medications-for-children-and-adolescents-information-for-parents-and-caregivers.shtml, and an excerpt:
"In the FDA review, no completed suicides occurred among nearly 2,200 children treated with SSRI medications. However, about 4 percent of those taking SSRI medications experienced suicidal thinking or behavior, including actual suicide attempts—twice the rate of those taking placebo, or sugar pills.
In response, the FDA adopted a "black box" label warning indicating that antidepressants may increase the risk of suicidal thinking and behavior in some children and adolescents with MDD. A black-box warning is the most serious type of warning in prescription drug labeling.
The warning also notes that children and adolescents taking SSRI medications should be closely monitored for any worsening in depression, emergence of suicidal thinking or behavior, or unusual changes in behavior, such as sleeplessness, agitation, or withdrawal from normal social situations. Close monitoring is especially important during the first four weeks of treatment. SSRI medications usually have few side effects in children and adolescents, but for unknown reasons, they may trigger agitation and abnormal behavior in certain individuals."
There's still nothing in here to suggest that antidepressants are a leading cause of suicide. Just a 2% increase in suicidal thoughts versus placebo in children, hence the warning.
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That's actually the definition of a safe space. "A Safe Space is a place where anyone can relax and be able to fully
express, without fear of being made to feel uncomfortable, unwelcome, or
unsafe on account of biological sex, race/ethnicity, sexual
orientation, gender identity or expression, cultural background,
religious affiliation, age, or physical or mental ability."-http://safespacenetwork.tumblr.com/Safespace
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In the 19th century our population was far lower and we had almost nothing you use on a daily basis. Do you want to get around by horse and buggy? Our current level of society cannot be supported if you remove it's main source of energy. How can you even for one second think that would work? How would you get food one week after the power shut off, for example? All perishables have gone rotten, factories can't make more canned food, fertilizers can't be produced for farms and the machinery to harvest, plant, process, and transport crops will all be useless. You can't even know what's going on since all radio, tv, phones, and the internet will be gone as well. You do know that all of that needs electricity, right? You do also know where we get that electricity from, right? Tell me exactly how you would avoid death in the first month of your planned genocide.
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*****
Claiming that a god is real just because you say so or some book says it is is psychotic. Why do you think your particular god isn't a fairy tale when you think the other 4000 religions on earth today are all fairy tales? Why am I insane to believe in one less fairy tale than you? How could you know you've been so lucky to have been born into the right god since you don't understand what evidence even is, let alone actually have any to support your claim?
All religions are fairy tales, I don't even need to know which one yours is. You probably worship some dumbass version of Yahweh, the plagiarized Sumerian god of war? Likely with that tacked on yoshua bullshit that was stolen from other, much older myths and religions like Mythra? The hilarious part is, I know far more about your stupid ass desert nomad religion than you ever will, which is why I know it's bullshit. They all are, else provide evidence your myth is different from the others. You can't and you won't even address my request for evidence because you know you can't, you spineless coward.
Grow up, throw aside your childish fairy tale and require evidence before you believe something. Pretending that science requires faith is simply projecting the weakness that you know your position holds. It's so sad that your parents were so savagely thorough in their brainwashing of you. Honestly, religion should be illegal to teach to children as they have no way to consent to the brainwashing any religion does. And yes, it is brain washing as they fill their heads with lies. "But stoopud atheist, skience is lies!!!!!!11one" Yeah, keep saying that while using science to post your hilarious ignorance.
Simply claiming that science is lies and religion is truth isn't an argument slapstick Religion, by it's definition, is faith based belief in a higher power or god. Faith, by definition, lacks evidence and hence has nothing to support it. You've defined yourself as wrong. Get rekt kid.
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*****
If america is nuked, you die too skippy. Everything with a backbones dies dolt, not just us. Again, we don't support shillary, I agree she wants war with russia and will also lead us to nuclear war. Trump wants to use nuclear weapons instead of diplomacy because he, like you, do not understand the consequences of nuclear war. Three times he asked "If we have nukes, why can't we use them." I agree Shitlery will push us towards war with russia, but Trump doesn;t even understand the consequences of his actions. He's a retarded child, like you. It is hilarious that you think I'm arguing this because of Kyle, I don;t care what kyle has to say, I care what Trump has to say. He said he'd go after women and children, start a war with mexico, and use nuclear weapons because we have them.
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Dai Qibao
It is not a false equivocation if government is what allows society to exist against outside forces, like barbarians. Are you trying to say a barbarian killing you and taking all your possessions and taking your family as slaves would not be taking from the weak because the barbarian isn't part of a government? Do you dispute the fact that non-government entities, such as groups of murderous thieves, take from the weak? You also still don't seem to understand the concept of theft. Thieves don't take from you then build things with the stolen stuff that you and the entire community can then use, such as roads and sewer systems and law enforcement to stop lawless, non-government thugs, from killing you. This is of course why your statement that taxation is theft is an actual false equivalence, I've shown how they aren't equivalent and everything. That's how you back up and demonstrate the claim that someone else has used a logical fallacy, unlike you. Simply saying that I made a false equivalence between government and society is a straw man, since I did not. I simply argued that government is needed for the existence of society as without government, the society has no way to defend itself from non-government organizations, like bands of murderous slaver thieves. You were unable to counter my argument, and instead build a pathetic straw man and again demonstrate your misunderstanding of fallacy. Bravo, that fail put the needle clean off the scale on the failometer. Every time you fail to address my points with a proper rebuttal you dig yourself deeper. How stupid and wrong do you really need to look in one single thread? Just stop if you are unable to address my points.
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weallnonothing Well, I could see the batteries helping in one way. During peak hours, when most electricity is used, you could partially rely upon the batteries and lessen the drain on the grid, lessening the need for more power plants. You could then recharge the battery overnight when demand is much lower. This would be more efficient for power plants because they are most efficient when they are run at a steady state in their optimal rpm, ie, not changing the amount of power they make. If you could smooth out the power demand into a near constant level with batteries, you could get some fuel savings right there. This does come at the environmental cost of manufacturing huge amounts of batteries, but new, cheaper, faster charging aluminum based batteries will be arriving soon. Now that'll be a game changer.
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Yùkì Nìètònò
Your misunderstanding of the burden of proof is not my problem. I do not need to prove god doesn't exist, I reject your claim that one does. My claim is not a positive claim, just as your disbelief in leprechauns is not a positive claim. As to you thinking that homosexuality is a choice, tell me, when did you choose to be straight? There is no evidence that a person can decide who they are attracted to. To disprove my point, all you need to do is decide to be gay for a week, assuming you are straight of course. If you can successfully do this, then you will have shown that sexuality can be a choice for someone who is not bisexual. If you yourself cannot choose to be gay, then why do you think it is a choice? If you personally feel it is a choice, then you are bisexual. Congrats. This discussion is tangential to our original conversation however, so let us drop it and return to your misunderstanding of the burden of proof, shall we?
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Jay M. Summers As you wish my son.
Ephesians 6:5-6
Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ; not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart.…
Colossians 3:22
Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
1 Timothy 6:1
All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered.
Titus 2:9
Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,
1 Peter 2:18
Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, *not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
The Bible very mcuh supports slavery when it just as easily could have banned it with death. Eating shellfish is punishable with death in the same part of Leviticus where homosexuality is named as punishable with death.
Jesus is just an asshole in Matthew
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Only a disgusting narcissistic monster would demand this.
I've got many, MANY more examples of immorality in the Bible, you should know them already, please read your book thoroughly since you somehow skimmed over the bad bits. If it's the word of god, isn't it worth reading? Why don't you value god's word enough to read it? That has to be a sin somewhere.
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juan chapa
Yeah, I go to college 5 days a week as I'm getting to the point in my degree where the classes are mostly 4 days a week, with varying days. I can only work on the weekends, so I never have a real day off except in the summer, unless I'm taking summer school. The financial aid I get to keep, which amounts to almost $3k per year, I mostly spend on food and rent and utilities. I haven't had cable for the past 5 years, and haven't had a working car for 4 years. If I ever want to go anywhere, I have to borrow my gf's car, which is also a 24 year old POS but I keep it going. She's earlier on in her major and it's not a science major so she's still able to keep the classes on two days per week and work 5, although she was able to overlap 1 work and school day off last semester. She makes nearly triple what I make too as my job is corporate and literally no one ever gets a raise regardless of performance. Her job is a franchise, she's been working there 8 years and her boss/franchise owner is nice and gives regular raises.
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You do know I can see your previous posts, right?
"I'm just glad I live in a state where we actually have morals"
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Yes, we do have morals. For instance it's illegal to fuck another man. It's illegal to murder your baby. And using drugs is illegal. Make fun of kansas all you like, but it's a great place to live if you have morals."
"Come on. You can't tell me it is moral to dry fuck another man in the park, then go home and do some real rectum raiding."
I know you were getting excited thinking about gay sex, but try to remember what you wrote. Also, sodomy is not illegal in Kansas, this law, and all anti-sodomy laws, were invalidated in 2003 in the Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v. Texas. Not only do you not know your religion, you also don't know your own laws.
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moromillas
The default position is not your own personal position, it is the one supported by evidence or the null position if evidence is lacking. Evidence for the position that autism is a disease is not lacking, and Autism Speaks is not listed as a hate group, that is another of your unsupported claims. If you had actually looked at the sources cited all the way down at the bottom, you'll see 194 sources listed. Dozens and dozens of peer reviewed papers from the medical and scientific community in support of the idea of autism being a disease, and that's just the sources listed there. Will you simply dismiss them out of hand because they do not support your argument, or will you be intellectually honest and attempt an actual rebuttal? Simply declaring everyone who produces evidence for or attempts to treat autism as a disease are hate groups is not a rebuttal. I hesitated to call you stupid before, but if you refuse to accept the parameters of logical argument, you're kind of fitting the word precisely. I'm sure it's not due to your disease though, I argue with plenty of other perfectly healthy people about their unsupported claims of the moon being a hoax or that all of society is run by lizard overlords. The thing is, you don't have to be stupid. Choose to support your argument with evidence from reputable sources, and don't try to tell me it's a worldwide conspiracy. There are so many of those running around it's hard to keep track of all the nonsense claims. Did you know that there are a race of gnomes living 6 inches under Denver? Just another thing people argue to be true despite all the evidence to the contrary.
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Moses Bullrush
Do you actually think that CO2 cannot increase the effectiveness of heat trapping? You do know that you can test this yourself, at home, with just a table, two glass bowls, two thermometers, two lamps, and one piece of dry ice? Set both bowls upside down on your table, both with thermometers and one with a piece of dry ice underneath. Wait until the dry ice sublimes into gas and the temp in the co2 bowl reaches room temp again. Set up the two lamps so that they shine on the bowls equally. Turn on both lamps and observe the temperature changes, the one with co2 added will increase in temperature faster and will reach a higher temperature. Through this experiment, you can determine how much a given amount of co2 increase the heat trapping ability of the gas in the bowl. This was discovered HUNDREDS of years ago. So, if co2 increases heat trapping, and humans emit co2 into the atmosphere at a rate higher than that of all natural sources, how does co2 not increase heat trapping? Where does the logic fail? The experiment works, you can try it yourself, so that isn't it. Are devious scientists lying about how much co2 is emitted by natural sources? Are virtuous fossil fuel companies for some reason lying about how much fossil fuels they are producing? Are chemists lying about the makeup of fossil fuels and their combustion products? Is co2 NOT actually a product of combustion? If any of these things are happening, could you point me to the evidence of the worldwide conspiracy please? Thanks.
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mamu851
EMP doesn't work on the nuclear arsenal, they thought of that and protected for it many decades ago. Our submarine nuclear forces alone have the power to destroy the world and cannot be stopped by any known means. Even if the continental US was entirely destroyed in a surprise nuclear attack, our subs and 900 military bases around the world would ensure the rest of the world dies as well. Its Mutually Assured Destruction sir, there is no way around it, and that's the point. If there was a way around it, we would already be at war. The same goes for Israel. They are estimated to have 400 smallish nuclear weapons, which is deterrent enough. They also have the Sampson Option though. This plan is enacted in the event that Israel is being overrun and its allies have not come to its aid. Israel launches its nukes in every direction, hitting not only its enemies, but also its allies in Europe, US military bases, and Russia, essentially bring down the pillars pf the temple and triggering all out nuclear war. No one invades nuclear armed countries, and NEVER WILL, because you might as well murder your family yourself. It may not be right, but it has protected your life and the lives of people in many countries from dictatorship and death for many decades now. World Wars simply can no longer happen because of the utterly dire consequences. Why do you think Russia is being so sly and slow with its annexation of Ukraine? They want all of Europe and would take it if there weren't the thread of MAD stopping them. Its a terrible world but its the one we live in.
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@taubevictor8989 Ok child, I'll break it down for you.
"That's awesome, presidents win on popular vote !
Oh wait" the electoral college,
Wins the game...
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Correct, Trump did win the Electoral College and the presidency, but again kiddo, polls correctly predicted that Hillary would win the popular vote, which gave her a very high likelihood of winning but of course did not guarantee it. Remember, you're talking about the accuracy of the polls, which were correct, not about who won or how an election in the US is won, please try to focus.
"Did Hilary win that," I was told by the polls that she we would win ?!
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Repeating your misunderstanding.
"I don't believe entirely in polls, their skewed !
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The word is spelled "they're" and your uninformed belief about factual matter is unimportant.
"But I do believe trump does have low approval rating.
Does it really matter to him, when he can secure easily 45% of the electoral college..."
How could he possibly duplicate his 2016 win with far less support than before? In other words, how could he possibly get 45% of the EC if he's not going to win as many states due to his near certain massive loss in the popular vote? The EC follows the will of the people, not the orange clown's. You simply don't know what you're talking about.
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@aclark903 God sends his love to the children in the form of bears that tear them apart for making fun of one of his bald bullshitters for being bald.
2 Kings 2:23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
42 CHILDREN torn apart by bears for name calling. Such love. You haven't spent much time with this bible book, have you?
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@johnbrown2163 I see you have huffed too much gasoline to be able to google so I'll do it for you and save you from making further cringey, embarrassing posts.
"Northern California: Northern California (or NorCal), a fertile region stretching from Oregon to San Luis Obispo county, is known for its redwood forests and dramatic Pacific coastline. Its cities include hilly San Francisco, home to the iconic Golden Gate Bridge and historic cable cars, and San Jose, anchoring the Silicon Valley technology hub. Farther north, Napa and Sonoma valleys feature hundreds of vineyards set amid rolling hills."
Your opinion doesn't matter kiddo. You don't know anything about the place you presumably live in. Sad, just sad. Also, I don't have a channel. Stop riding my dick, I don't swing that way lol.
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It is not splitting hairs to point out the difference between individuals and society as a whole, and your own argument defeats itself. You- "I presented an argument that SCOTUS has no constitutional duty to protect (here I eluded to the original post) the public." Then you say "I then cited case precedent where SCOTUS has decided, every time, that there is no duty for police to protect people, but rather to protect 'society'
Society, 'the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.'" as if it were supporting your argument. Society is not an individual. Society is the public. Further, your own link says that for decision 8, "Law enforcement agencies and personnel have no duty to protect individuals from the criminal acts of others; instead their duty is to preserve the peace and arrest law breakers for the protection of the general public." I'm not trying to obfuscate the point of the conversation, I'm pointing out a rather obvious problem with your argument, one in which I share the side with you. If you do resort to ad hominem though, know that it would be ironically childish now that you have accused me of it, and it would only weaken your position through obvious fallacy.
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in·san·i·tyinˈsanədē/nounnoun: insanitythe state of being seriously mentally ill; madness."he suffered from bouts of insanity"synonyms:mental illness, madness, dementia; Morelunacy, instability; mania, psychosis; informalcraziness "insanity runs in her family"extreme foolishness or irrationality.plural noun: insanities"it might be pure insanity to take this loan"synonyms:folly, foolishness, madness, idiocy, stupidity, lunacy, silliness; informalcraziness "it would be insanity to take this loan"
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Why would you need to slaughter anything to take stem cells for one? Second, you can just keep taking cells from the ones you already have. They multiply forever as long as you give them nutrients. Even if for some reason you needed new stem cells, you can induce skin cells to become them, no need for killing. This of course won't change the fact that nearly all farm animals would then be superfluous and would no longer be kept, and hence wouldn't be alive to begin with. As far as tofu nor being discernible, maybe with burgers, but not for any actual cut of meat. So, if no animal slaughter was needed and whole sides of beef, etc. could be grown, you'd be fine with eating meat? If so, we are in agreement.
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patrock400 On the definition of belief, not necessarily:
be·lief
bəˈlēf/
noun
noun: belief; plural noun: beliefs
1.
an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
"his belief in the value of hard work"
something one accepts as true or real; a firmly held opinion or conviction.
"contrary to popular belief, Aramaic is a living language"
synonyms:opinion, view, conviction, judgment, thinking, way of thinking, idea, impression, theory, conclusion, notion "it's my belief that age is irrelevant"
a religious conviction.
"Christian beliefs"
synonyms:ideology, principle, ethic, tenet, canon; Moredoctrine, teaching, dogma, article of faith, creed, credo
"traditional beliefs"
2.
trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something.
"a belief in democratic politics"
synonyms:faith, trust, reliance, confidence, credence "belief in the value of hard work"
You don't have to lack evidence for your belief, but you can. The word you are really looking for is faith.
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"aren't they the most prescribe drug?"
No, not at all, here are the top ten by number of prescriptions per month in the US:
1. Synthroid, 22.6 million, treats hypothyroidism
2. Crestor, 22.5 million, lowers cholesterol
3. Nexium, 18.6 million, heartburn
4. Ventolin HFA, 17.5 million, asthma
5. Advair Diskus, 15.0 million, asthma
6. Diovan, 11.4 million, high blood pressure
7. Lantus Solostar, 10.1 million, insulin
8. Cymbalta, 10.0 million, depression ding ding ding!
9. Vyvanse, 10.0 million, ADHD
10. Lyrica, 9.6 million, nerva and muscle pain
"and isn't it depressed people who take them?" Yes, I would suspect that the main use of antidepressants is depression.
"and isn't their side effect is suicide?" A 2% increase of suicidal thoughts in people under 25 doesn't make it a leading cause.
"and don't only depressed people commit suicide?" Not all, but I would suspect most.
Is there supposed to be a point here? Nothing you said is evidence that anti-depression pills are a leading cause of suicide. Evidence would be some sort of study, not just you figuring it must be so since it increases suicidal thoughts in 2% of youths that take them. Suicide is already the second leading cause of death of people 15-24, the main cause being depression itself. If only 2% of that extremely suicidal group feels increased thoughts of suicide while taking them, while 98% experienced either no change or less thoughts of suicide, how could the suicide rate be increased? It doesn't work mathematically.
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Ah, ignore facts and history and instead rely upon the military disobeying orders, the very thing they are trained to do. Sounds likely. In what way do we have "the power?" Why can Americans magically not be killed by their own military when that happens regularly throughout history and in countries around the globe? We can still try voting, but the US military has the power to annihilate all life on the planet, let alone an armed uprising of civilians. They can defeat, and I mean this literally, all the other nations on Earth combined and wields more power than any military, ever, yet they're a magic military that has a morality that supersedes orders? Lol, you're naivete is quaint kid. The only way to stop them is to get money out of politics, any armed uprising at best ends up with the surviving rebels living in caves the wilderness, with drones hunting them down one by one.
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Already, but even deism is still planted on the unfounded, unsupported assumption that there is a God. You have no evidence that this is true, it just makes you feel better. Think about it man, if you have a background in science, you have to know that belief in things with no evidence to support that belief is illogical. In no other area do you allow your beliefs to be founded on unsupported assumptions, why do you insist on this area? Why are you sure there is a god? Wouldn't it be much more logically sound to be entirely open to evidence for a god, but to disbelieve until there is reason to? Do you understand that when you say that man thinking that science can't explain something yet but to assume that it can be explained by natural causes is narcissistic and that we should say God did it instead, you are using the argument from ignorance fallacy? How would assuming there is a plan without evidence and that there is a creator, again without evidence, help to better explain the natural world in a quantifiable, measurable way? It wouldn't. Making unfounded assumptions about there being a creator in no way advances our knowledge. What, do you think god has hidden a message for us that we could only see if we believed?
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No thank you, you claim they are facts but have not shown this to be the case with evidence, failing to satisfy the burden of proof, which is your responsibility, not mine. Why do you persist in this attempt to shift the burden of proof? Why use fallacy if you're right? To humor you though, I went ahead and googled that. It does not bring up the document you describe, only the single page one I linked. Also, it's spelled "Encinia" BTW. The burden of proof continues to be yours sir. If you continue to fail to provide evidence for your claim, I will be reluctantly forced to reject your claim due to lack of evidence. Pity, I thought it likely to be true as well. The onus is on you, produce evidence or be dismissed. Hitchen's Razor is a bitch.
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Are u blind and stupid?
(checks to see if he's using a Braille Screen) Nope
Conspiracy theorist? That makes no sense
What, as a phrase or as a concept?
You call it a conspiracy if people don't believe your insane stories
about fish turning into people
Well, that's what's called a "straw man," kiddo. Science doesn't say that. Science says that allele frequencies change over time.
Sounds lie paranoia
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
And you can't see the streaks of white chemtrails in the sky? SO you
need to get your vision checked, or you are an oblivious moron.
Do you have a spectrometer for an eyeball? How can you tell that the white streaks coming from the exhaust of planes isn't water vapor condensing after it forms in the combustion process? What instrumentation are you using? You are aware that when you burn stuff, it makes water, right? You do know that clouds are made of water vapor, right skippy? Clouds are the same white color as the chemtrails and are made of water, why aren't the contrails? Did you go to high school yet? They'll teach you about basic chemistry and physics soon so maybe this won't be so confusing.
Creationist talking points - what does that mean
A creationist talking point would be some idea or meme used to promote creationism. Are the words we are using too big for you? Maybe you're not ready for the internet.
There are no talking points
*Tell that to your fellow creationists. https://answersingenesis.org/*
Atheists lie and claim fish turn into people,
He said unironically while lying to construct a straw man of atheism (a position on the belief of god) and conflating it with a strawman of evolution. Nice fail bro
And I didn't parrot anybody, so that makes no sense either
Um, no kid. Everything you've said has been said in much better English a million times before by every idiot creationist who doesn't understand the concept of evolution, evidence, the scientific method, and in your case, grade school science. Tell me kid, why are their videos of all the bombers over Germany leaving contrails over Europe? Were they chemtrailing Germany with many tons of chemicals while on the way to firebombing their cities with thousands of tons of bombs? You cannot even be real, you;re so stupid you have to be posing as a cretonist to smear their image, a Poe. You shouldn't do that to creationists, it's isn't fair to pick on the mentally disabled.
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From a simple google search: "First, what the United States Supreme Court said. What the United States Supreme Court held in Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Dist. Court (2004) 542 U.S. 177, was that a state could make it a crime for a person to refuse to identify himself (i.e., tell the officer his name and address) when lawfully detained for criminal activity. Note that the Supreme Court did NOT say that any kind of identification papers could be required, nor did they say that police officers could ordinarily arrest someone for refusing to identify himself absent a state law permitting that arrest. There is no law in the United States requiring everybody to carry ID, at least not yet.
There is NO law in California requiring anybody to carry identification. There is no law making it illegal for anyone (even someone lawfully detained) to fail to have identification papers or to refuse to identify himself (there was such a law, which was declared unconstitutional). Thus, Hiibel is of no effect in California, since there is no comparable law there. (It is, however, a crime to give a FALSE identification.)"
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Re: "I suppose the 13th amendment (which makes slavery illegal, by the way) isn't meant for the kind of black people we have today, either."
If today's black people were 12 feet tall, impervious to bullets, and shot lasers from their eyes, you might not have a false equivalency there. Today's guns are orders of magnitude better than what the revolutionaries had. Their guns were such shit they had to all march in a line and carefully kneel while pointing en masse at their brightly colored enemies, and still usually didn't land their single round. Can't we all just agree on magazines no larger than 15 rds, 3 round burst but no full auto, and nothing bigger that .50. Other than that, do whatever you want, none of this banning assault rifles and semi-automatic shotguns just because they look scary. I would love to have fully automatic weapons which drum mags because I am responsible and I'm lazy and don't like to reload, but it literally is equipment made to make killing as easy and quick as possible. There should be SOME kind of limit. I doubt most people who love guns would say there are no limits. Instead of just calling each other names, why not discuss this? I personally don't think civilians need to own howitzers (muzzle loading cannons are legal in CA lol), can we all at least agree on that?
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Matt Darling Here too.
Deuteronomy 21
:18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
:19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
:20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
:21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Don't even try to say the OT doesn't count. You then lose the Ten Commandments, plus Jesus explicitly endorses every letter of the OT.
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+Bennie Gray "So the question is who would Jesus deny healthcare to?" The Bible is so terrible there is actually an answer.
Matthew
15:21
Then Jesus went
thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.
15:22
And, behold, a woman of Canaan (not a jew) came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying,
Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed
with a devil.
15:23
But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him,
saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
15:25
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
15:26
But he answered and
said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
15:27
And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
15:28
Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it
unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very
hour.
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+oudguitar
"it is not a public argument. it was an effort to mock and insult Christians which is acceptable to do in the current Cult of social justice communism."
So you're going to use "cult" as an insult? What could possibly be more obvious projection? You're in a cult, defending it, don't use "cult" as an insult; it hurts your own argument. Furthermore, it's nonsensical since cults are religion, and I'm not religious. You also seem to not know what communism is. I'm certainly not for all property being owned publicly, where are you getting this nonsense? The strawman you are building doesn't even look like me kid.
"just ask yourself honestly if somebody were to put on a bunch of yarmulkes and say a prayer of gibberish or perhaps Muslims were imitated at the beginning of a town hall meeting."
I assume you meant this to be a complete thought. I know, paint thinner is a helluva drug. I'm also going to assume it ended with "... would I be ok with them being allowed to speak?" Well, if I was in a secular country where Jews or Muslims were attempting to insert their backwords and idiotic ideologies into governemnt, then abso-fucking-lutely bucko. You see, that's the difference between you and me, besides the lack of inbreeding on my parent's part. I'm logically consistent.
"since you're ideologically possessed I know I doubt you have the mental capacity to think outside of your cult secular doctrine of hating Christians."
Ideologically possessed? By.... what? Wanting evidence for ludicrous sky-fairy claims and wanting equal treatment for all religions and power in government for none? I guess my head is a spinning and I'm vomiting green lol.
I don't hate Christians, I hate their religion and all religions. Religion is a cancer upon mankind. Only religion demands you believe without evidence; to believe absurd, monstrous claims on faith alone. No thanks junior, I'll reserves my beliefs to that which is supported by facts and keep my government the way it was intended to be; secular.
"but trust me sunshine you're little little clever comment there isn't coming from you"
Where's it coming from kid, the devil? Lol, grow up.
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*****
Reality disagrees. The death p[enalty is not a deterrant.
"Criminologists' Views on Deterrence and the Death Penalty
A recent survey of the most leading criminologists in the country from found that the overwhelming majority did not believe that the death penalty is a proven deterrent to homicide. Eighty-eight percent of the country’s top criminologists do not believe the death penalty acts as a deterrent to homicide, according to a new study published in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology and authored by Professor Michael Radelet, Chair of the Department of Sociology at the University of Colorado-Boulder, and Traci Lacock, also at Boulder.
Similarly, 87% of the expert criminologists believe that abolition of the death penalty would not have any significant effect on murder rates. In addition, 75% of the respondents agree that “debates about the death penalty distract Congress and state legislatures from focusing on real solutions to crime problems.”
The survey relied on questionnaires completed by the most pre-eminent criminologists in the country, including Fellows in the American Society of Criminology; winners of the American Society of Criminology’s prestigious Southerland Award; and recent presidents of the American Society of Criminology. Respondents were not asked for their personal opinion about the death penalty, but instead to answer on the basis of their understandings of the empirical research.
(M. Radelet and T. Lacock, DO EXECUTIONS LOWER HOMICIDE RATES?: THE VIEWS OF LEADING CRIMINOLOGISTS, 99 Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology 489 2009)"
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*****
No, I know one of them will win but I refuse to support either a criminal or a maniac. I'm not on team blue or red, and I won't vote for a candidate I hate. It's an integrity thing, I'm funny like that. Also, he regularly posts videos about them both. Trump is more outrageous and fucks up more often, that doesn't mean he supports hillary, as shown by the anti-hillary videos. If he supported hillary, wouldn't you expect pro hillary videos? Or is he just that sneaky that he only reports on all the bad things the candidates do, knowing that donny does stupid stuff more often? SMH, your position doesn't even make sense. How could kyle report on hillary more, what hasn't he covered?
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*****
You don't understand what words mean lol.
Our senses are based on stories other people tell them? Have you entered primary school yet? If not, you cannot be blamed, but damn son, I hope you are not an adult and think this. If you are capable, read the link on anecdotal evidence so that you can learn the difference between stories and evidence. FFS man, you're just a sad excuse for a human if this is how you attempt to support you position. ANECDOTES ARE THE BASIS OF OUR SENSES?! I still can't believe you said something so flagrantly ignorant, something which was already disproved by the link, I can't even understand how you could utter such lunacy. Let me hold your hand for you:
"Anecdotal evidence (also proof by selected instances, or, more pejoratively, anecdata) is use of one or more anecdotes (specific instances of an event; stories) to either support or refute a claim. The use of anecdotal evidence to draw a conclusion is like using the NBA all-star teams to estimate the average height of Americans."
Our sense however rely upon the various things they were designed to sense, radiation, sound waves, particles in the air or in a fluid, etc, not unverified stories. Science also does not rely upon unverified stories. It relies upon evidence. Your false equivalence between our sense and anecdotes literally makes no sense at all.
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Stories are a worthless. No one but you said anything about throwing away our senses (strawman of my argument BTW), just don't use your senses to accept a story by some dude as your evidence as people can lie and anectdotes are not verifiable. Are you seriously STILL arguing that anecdotes are evidence? You do understand that if I wanted, I can show you anecdotes of lizard overlords and ufo abductions, right? Is such "evidence" valid to you? I've explained this to you multiple times, we base beleifs upon evidnece, anecdotes aren't evidnece as they are not verifiable. Actual evidence can be verified, such as the effect of gravity upon things with ( and without) mass as it bends spacetime. People can do experiments to confirm the claims that scientists make and they do. You must be purposely being obtuse at this point if you still claim to not understand. If you still don't understand, I'm just going to be posting,links to other unverified anecdotal claims and by your logic, you'll have to accept them. We don't want to get into that, do we?
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From wikipedia:
Use of the word "football"
For more details on this topic, see Football (word).
The word "football", when used in reference to a specific game can mean any one of those described above. Because of this, much friendly controversy has occurred over the term football, primarily because it is used in different ways in different parts of the English-speaking world. Most often, the word "football" is used to refer to the code of football that is considered dominant within a particular region. So, effectively, what the word "football" means usually depends on where one says it. Association football is known generally as soccer where other codes of football are dominant, including: the United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
You don't have to be American to be ignorant, you just have to not be able to use google.
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Q: Is it possible for relative humidity to be higher than 100%?
A: Yes, it is possible. In Elements of Meteorology the authors Albert Miller and Jack C. Thompson explain that in extremely clean air which contains no "foreign" particles, water droplets, or ice crystals it is extremely difficult for condensation to occur even when supersaturated conditions are present. Supersaturated conditions refer to relative humidities much greater than 100%. C.T.R. Wilson invented an instrument called a cloud chamber in which clouds can be manually made. He discovered that in pure, clean air the relative humidity must reach 800% before water drops form. Realistically, air is not pure and clean. There are many particles that are small enough to remain suspended in the atmosphere such as salt particles from sea water, combustion products, meteoritic dust, volcanic material, and soil. These particles, prominent as they are, act as nuclei for water to condense upon and, hence, are an easier means of condensation. This means that condensation in real air can usually produce humidities just barely over 100%.
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Yes, ignore my points and attempt to imply my position is invalid because I don't agree with your claim. Are you able to make a non-circular argument? Do you know what a circular argument is?
"Circular reasoning (Latin: circulus in probando, "circle in proving"; also known as circular logic) is a logical fallacy in which the reasoner begins with what they are trying to end with. The components of a circular argument are often logically valid because if the premises are true, the conclusion must be true."
Anyone who doesn't take someone seriously because they don't believe in magical sky people for which there is no evidence, much Santa Clause is operating at a child's level of logic. Why would it be illogical to disbelieve claims of magical bearded fathers in the sky if there is no evidence of such, be they Thor or Zeus, Yahweh or Allah. All are equally unsupported, with less evidence or likelihood of existing as Leprechauns, bigfoot, or space aliens. You're basically saying it's crazy to not believe in random unsupported bullshit, and that's just bullshit my friend.
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BigBad Wolfe
I'm only talking about our pocket Universe, which is really all we need to concern ourselves with anyway, we can't even see past a certain horizon due to the expansion of the Universe so we can literally never even explore our entire finite Universe (barring FTL), let alone a multi-verse. Also, the logic to show the Universe must be finite is pretty simple. At time zero, the Universe is size zero, time then begins and the Universe begins to expand, whatever speed it expands at is not really important since it is a finite speed. It must be a finite speed or the size of the Universe would be infinite instantaneously, observation shows this to be false. Anything expanding at a finite speed can never expand to an infinite size. The speed of expansion could be many times the speed of light and it would still never reach infinite size. Also, if it did somehow reach infinite size, everything within it would be stretched infinitely, giving a zero density as the finite mass the Universe started with would be divided by an infinite volume (density=mass/volume), making the Universe entirely empty, yet having stuff in it, which makes no sense.
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AnEntropyFan
Yes they are in open traffic, yes they are viable, they are already on the road. Here is an excerpt from just the road testing of the google car: *"In 2012, the test group of vehicles included six Toyota Prius, an Audi TT, and three Lexus RX450h,[15] each accompanied in the driver's seat by one of a dozen drivers with unblemished driving records and in the passenger seat by one of Google's engineers. By May 2015, that fleet consisted solely of 23 Lexus SUVs.[21]
Google's vehicles have traversed San Francisco's Lombard Street, famed for its steep hairpin turns, and through city traffic. The vehicles have driven over the Golden Gate Bridge and around Lake Tahoe.[4] The system drives at the speed limit it has stored on its maps and maintains its distance from other vehicles using its system of sensors.[22] The system provides an override that allows a human driver to take control of the car by stepping on the brake or turning the wheel, similar to cruise control systems already found in many cars today.[3][23]
On March 28, 2012, Google posted a YouTube video showing Steve Mahan, a resident of Morgan Hill, California, being taken on a ride in Google's self-driving Toyota Prius. In the video, Mahan states "Ninety-five percent of my vision is gone, I'm well past legally blind". In the description of the YouTube video, it is noted that the carefully programmed route takes him from his home to a drive-through restaurant, then to the dry cleaning shop, and finally back home.[24][25]
In August 2012, the team announced that they have completed over 300,000 autonomous-driving miles (500,000 km) accident-free, typically have about a dozen cars on the road at any given time, and are starting to test them with single drivers instead of in pairs.[26] Four U.S. states have passed laws permitting autonomous cars as of December 2013: Nevada, Florida, California, and Michigan.[27] A law proposed in Texas would establish criteria for allowing "autonomous motor vehicles".[28][29]
In April 2014, the team announced that their vehicles have now logged nearly 700,000 autonomous miles (1.1 million km).[30] In late May, Google revealed a new prototype of its driverless car, which had no steering wheel, gas pedal, or brake pedal, being 100% autonomous.[31]"*
That is only for the Google car, many other manufacturers have models as well, some of which will be available in 2017-2020 which you could have known if you looked at the link I provided. Look it up before you continue to display your ignorance. Also, you may want to look into logical fallacy while you are at it, ad hominem against me is the opposite of a rebuttal. Try getting some evidence to back your point, although that will be difficult as you are incorrect.
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You are clearly refusing to read the articles and are still using ad hominem against me. You are making me sad :(. I cannot state this any clearer, these cars are fully autonomous, they drive themselves entirely without human interaction except for the entering of the destinations. You just get in and tell them where to go. They stop for read lights, drive the posted limit, and have cameras and radar to see the world and to detect unexpected obstructions. You would know this if you would do some research or had even read what I posted. A 95% blind man is being driven around town by himself. He can't even see the instruments. How autonomous do you want the cars to be? Do you want them to also do your job for you after they drive you to work? You seem to be confused as to strawmen as well as ad hominem. A strawman would be me constructing a false version of your argument, then attacking it. What I did was disagree with your argument, then provide evidence that countered it, which you preceded to ignore. Honestly, I don't understand why I still need to convince you. It is an easily confirmable fact that my position is true, you simply keep dismissing it out of hand because of personal incredulity, another fallacy BTW. Google it. Oh, since you let me know that you still don't understand ad hominem and do indeed need it defined, here you go good sir: "An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, means responding to arguments by attacking a person's character, rather than to the content of their arguments" Now that you have a firm understanding of this particular fallacy as well as others, I hope that our conversation may continue on a more civil level, no more poisoning the well either.
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None of your arguments matter, the cars are already on the road, driving right now in heavy traffic whether you think it is possible or not. You are arguing that reality isn't happening sir. You may as well be arguing about the impracticality of setting up a world wide communication network for people to communicate with. It's already been done bro. The cars are already able to detect and avoid unexpected obstacles using their radar, actual sentient machines are unneeded in this task. I will put this in bold and all caps so that you are sure to take note, THE CARS ARE FULLY AUTONOMOUS, THEY ARE DRIVING THE BLIND IN HEAVY TRAFFIC AND IN ALL WEATHER. IT IS ALREADY REAL. I apologize for that, but I've already told you and demonstrated these facts through evidence to no avail. If you think your arguments are valid, please show us how the problems you bring up are stopping autonomous cars, even though they are already on the road? When you say that these cars are not fully autonomous, what do you mean? They certainly don't fuel themselves nor do they drive themselves to the shop for repairs if you don't tell them to, but if you mean all the tasks of driving and parking, then they are fully autonomous.
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AnEntropyFan There we go! A perfect example of a strawman, you've got it now. I defined an autonomous car as being able to drive "entirely without human intervention from one destination to the other," which is what cars are designed to do and what they accomplish, requiring NO HUMAN DRIVING INPUT. Predator drones are not designed to go to a battlefield and kill autonomously, which is why it's pretty easy to argue that they aren't. They are perfectly capable of flying to and from the target by themselves though, using their sensors to avoid unexpected inflight obstacles. Now if cars were designed to kill people, and human operators took over when it was time for that, then you wouldn't have a straw man. The cars would not be completing all of their task autonomously, they would only be partially autonomous kill-mobiles. These autonomous cars are only designed to drive however, and they are always watching in all directions with radar for sudden obstacles and it's pretty unlikely that a car would judge something as large as a child as traversible. The cars can actually tell the distance and size of the obstacle better and can react more quickly than humans. Seems like most objects that large would cause damage to most vehicles. I don't know the specific reaction algorithms of the vehicles we are speaking about have, perhaps you should ask the engineers or do some research yourself into the matter if you doubt? Regardless of your fears, these vehicles are already on the roads, already reacting to unexpected situations, some are even planned to not have steering wheels, and some are already driving the blind. No one was helping the car drive the blind guy around. If someone cuts the car off or an animal runs in front of the car, it's the car's task to react, and IT DOES.
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*****
It's not just spelling but grammar as well. History majors don't get any money either though. You may want to consider going back to school and getting a BS in something useful. Might I suggest geology? I know it sounds lame, but there are many geology careers (field geologist, volcanologist, working in the petroleum industry, etc), the highest required math is calculus 1, which is the lowest of all the science careers, and the people in the field are really chill. Most people who are in the geology major are people who wanted to be in a science field but couldn't do the advanced math other majors require. It also has the most field trips of any major, and you'll likely spend a lot of time outdoors. Pay ranges from 45k-200k/year. Further, if times get tough, you'll have all the knowledge you need to go out and find valuable minerals and metals. I haven't finished my major yet, and I could use some extra cash. Once I finish my mineralogy course, I'm going to start gold panning on the weekends. The price of gold is way up.
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They "follow" it because of tradition, to fool actual believers into voting for them, and because it gives legitimacy to their xenophobia, aggression, and hatred of minorities. The Old Testament aint no joke, babies getting dashed on rocks and people getting burned alive and entire cities, except for the virgins (read girls too young for intercourse) of course, being killed. Anyone want to guess why they kept the underage girls exclusively? The bibel is a terrible text, with the most evil character in all of literary history, Yahweh, as the hero. It can be used to justify anything evil, you just have to ignore most of the Jesusy bits.
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Congrats, you cannot come up with a counter argument, so you try to dismiss me with a wildly inaccurate label. Your fail knows no ends, does it? I in no way support Shillary, and even if I did, you'd still be wrong as that has nothing to do with what we're talking about, whether the president has unilateral authority to launch nuclear weapons, which they do. I have provided evidence of such, to which you reply like a frustrated child. Either provide evidence to support your claim that congress must approve nuclear strike, something which hasn't been true longer than you've been alive and I've already shown to be false, or admit you're wrong. Childish name-calling isn't a rebuttal kid.
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Worrying, but in the article there are two bits that catch my eye, "Silicon Valley security firm Norse, which provides intelligence to companies to prevent their software from being hacked, has been investigating the compromise at Sony and shared their findings with the FBI on Tuesday, according to Gawker. Norse senior vice president Kurt Stammberger said the hack hinges on a woman he called 'Lena', who he says worked in a 'key technical' position for 10 years but was sent packing in May during a large sweep of lay-offs. Stammberger would not reveal to Gawker how Norse came to such a conclusion. Later in the article, "Kevin Mandia, whose security firm was (also?) hired by Sony to investigate the attack, said the only way to know who the culprits are is to trace the network traffic from the infected machines back to the hackers' machines. Only the government and Internet service providers have that kind of visibility, he added. 'I don't have the data that they have to come up with that conclusion,' Mandia, chief operating officer of FireEye Inc, said. From what I'm reading, one security firm says that this happened, while another says that only the government or ISP could see the needed data, meaning the other firm couldn't have the data needed to conclude that "Lena" did it. It'd be great if Norse would actually give out some info to lend their story credibility.
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Izeck Hempseed
You think the rich recognize the authority of politicians? We live in oligarchy man, the politicians are their employees. Again, he was not referring to a system of governance. He was referring to the rich and politicians being able to break any campaign law they want (wanton law breaking is disorder, no?), and those in charge of policing them are powerless to stop them (absense of authority). It firts the first definition of the word quite well. Also, of course there can be anarchy if there is still capitalism. Capitalism is defined as an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state. If the government were gone or entirely owned by business, would capitalism no longer exist? Yes, industry would still be controlled by private owners for profit, and boy would they profit. With no rules or regulation by the government, they could do whatever they wanted. It would be complete Capitalism. Since their would be no authority or governing body if government was gone or entirely owned by businesses, their would be anarchy. Rival megacorps would run private freeways patrolled by warring clans of private police running between walled, racially segregated private communities of the rich.
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I like to think of the human species as the sexual organs of the Earth. She's in the young teen years right now, just starting to fill out. We're giving her acne, she's all knees and elbows and she's not looking as cute as she used to when she was a little girl, but once she's matured into a woman and spread herself (life) to other worlds she will bloom once more into something more beautiful than she ever was, with daughter worlds providing new homes to the DNA that formed from the very primordial rocks and waters of her birth. We are the vehicle for the spreading of life to other worlds. In time, we will even rework worlds to suit the life that Earth became. Humans are troublesome organs, but they will serve Earth as her loins just by doing what we always have done, explore new areas and take life we prefer or that hitchhikes along for the ride. We will bring life to a seemingly dead portion of our galaxy, something that will last far after our species has retired to the pages of history. Damn, gotta smoke less reefer, makes me wax poetic lol.
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The average Californian consumes 360 gallons of water per day. Desalinization, which is the most efficient way to remove salt from seawater in kWh/m^3, takes at best 3 kW per m^3. 360 gallons is m^3. So to provide enough water for each person, you'd need 4088 watts per day per person. There are 38.04 million people in California, so you'd need 15 trillion watts per day. The largest solar plant in the world produces 392 megawatts, so you'd need about 400 of these facilities just to desalinize enough water, just for California. Each facility requires 4000 acres, you'd need 2500 square MILES of solar plants, an area roughly the size of the big island of Hawaii. One plant cost $2.2, if you get get the costs down to $2B each, it would only cost $800 billion.
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Everything I stated was true and you know it too shill. You know how I can tell? You didn't even try to refute my claims, you immediately went to an ad hom attack because you know you haven't got shit. Fail lol. Here the facts to back my claims idiot, where are yours?
Saudi Arabia sharia law and killing sorcerers (which do not exist lol): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_system_of_Saudi_Arabia
"Criminal law punishments in Saudi Arabia include public beheading, hanging, stoning, amputation and lashing. Serious criminal offences include not only internationally recognized crimes such as murder, rape, theft and robbery, but also apostasy, adultery, witchcraft and sorcery."
Saudi Arabia committing a genocide in Yemen: http://www.globalresearch.ca/saudi-arabia-committing-genocide-in-yemen/5516665
Clinton foundation taking millions from the Saudis while illing people for being gay:
http://www.politifact.com/arizona/statements/2016/jul/11/donald-trump/did-hillary-clinton-take-money-countries-treat-wom/
Shillary givng them weapins: http://www.globalresearch.ca/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-from-hillary-clintons-state-department/5498517
Saudi Arabi helping in 9/11: http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/18/what-we-know-about-saudi-arabias-role-in-911/
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BackwoodsHunter.243
You have not read your Bible, naughty boy.
Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- Hosea 9:14
Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. -- Hosea 9:16
Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 13:16
This is the "test" for an unfaithful wife that gives her a miscarriage if the baby is not her husband's.
Numbers 5:19-22 And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse: But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband: Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell; And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. 5:27-31 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled; Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law. Then shall the man be guiltless from iniquity, and this woman shall bear her iniquity.
Got any Bible verses that say abortion is bad? Very little value of any kind is given to a child of less than one month old even.
And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6
Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16
Causing a miscarriage of a woman is not even considered murder, but a fine-able offense unless the woman dies as well.
If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. -- Exodus 21:22-23
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leerman22
You don't need to refine biofuels, and if you're getting your electricity from fossil fuels, it's more efficient to burn the fossil fuel and turn the heat energy directly into kinetic energy in an ICE than to burn it to generate heat in a boiler, which generates steam, which turns a turbine, which then turns a generator, with losses at every conversion. Then you still need to transport the electricity, store it, then turn it back into kinetic energy, all with additional losses to heat. If you can get your electricity from nuclear, wind, solar or something like that, you'll be one the right track, but we aren't there yet. Biofuels also don't need to be transported long distances because the organisms create the fuel on site. Biofuels are really just another form of battery, you are converting sun light into liquid fuel and it is carbon neutral as the carbon used to make the fuel comes from the air, just like growing and burning your own firewood is carbon neutral.
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Wei Xiang Peh "okay. Mass is superstitious. In fact, the entire history of prayers and rituals (of all religions and traditions) are superstitious too."
Uh yeah, all of that is superstition, duh. They symbolically eat a dead jew's flesh and drink his blood. Doesn't sound all that scientific to me.
"Actually add dead bodies too since science has as much proven that there is an afterlife as they have proved that there is a God or Gods." - cite your source. This is a fantastic, insane claim, so I'm not going to just believe you.
"So why do we have graves, burials and grave visits? Just pile them up and incinerate them since logically and rationally we can free up lots of space for other facets of life."
So that superstitious people can practice their superstitions? What is so confusing here?
"So.... what do we do, not respect them? Sure. Still there is a difference between not respecting them, and disrespecting them. When someone is praying.... walk away, don't point the finger at them." Why not point out their ignorance and superstition and free them from their mental cage? Religion and superstition has no evidence of any kind to support it. If you believe the contrary, you don't have an understanding of the concept of the burden of proof.
"Being naked isn't offensive, its natural. Buildings and cars and all sorts of invention arent natural. Are they then offensive? What is your point? Urinating isnt offensive either. Should we urinate everywhere?"
False equivolence. Urinating everywhere is a public health hazard.
"If we respect other people not to defecate in front of them... surely we can respect others not to desecrate their religious sites."
Why? Defecation is offensive because it can make you sick, these people's religious beliefs have no logical backing in evidence or logic. Thier superstitions, nor anyone else's deserve ridicule for their lack of logic, and NEVER respect.
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Since they have no chance at all in our system as they cannot acquire the needed campaign (bribery) money, yes, third party candidates don't matter at all, exept as spoilers. That however, was not what I was implying. I was saying that when you CANNOT choose the candidate you want, ie, they don't win the primary or are a third party who didn't get enough votes to even be included in the national election, you choose the candidate that would hurt your interests least. Why do I need to hold your hand so that you can understand this extremely simple concept? Say you are a child and your parents only let you eat three kinds of food, none of which you like, you'd choose the least unsavory, savvy?
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*****
I'm not buying your BS from a conspiracy website. No one is. Do you believe these lizard overlord websites?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles50b.htm
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/10/17/david-ickes-theory-of-the-reptilian-human-hybrid-apocalypse/
The second link you put actually supports vaccination as the point of the story. From your own link:
"Poliomyelitis has been a notifiable disease since 1947 in Japan and thereafter the cases have been grasped in the nation-wide scale. From around 1949, polio epidemics were reported from various parts of the whole country. In 1960, a large-scale epidemic broke out in Hokkaido and polio patients totaled more than 5,000 in one year. In 1961, emergency national immunization with imported live vaccine was carried out. In 1963, regular vaccination was started, resulting in abrupt decline in polio patients, and poliomyelitis has so far been brought under almost complete control (Fig. 1). Mass vaccination with live oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) has been carried out in spring and autumn (two doses for each infant)."
It specifically says that they brought the disease under total control using vaccination, simpleton. Why would you post stuff that directly contradicts your point? Did you even read it? How do you fail so hard? Are you actually a Poe? Someone trying to make anti-vaxxers look especially dull? You're doing a good job of it. If you have actual evidence from a peer reviewed journal that shows a worldwide conspiracy, please present it. Otherwise, STFU. You're making a fool of yourself publicly.
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*****
Well, I did explain in my post, but apparently you were unable to read it. I'll just post the definition from wikipedia for the modern usage of the word: The adjectival term Oriental has been used by the West to mean cultures, peoples, countries, and goods from the Orient. "Oriental" means generally "eastern". It is a traditional designation (especially when capitalized) for anything belonging to the Orient or "East" (for Asia), and especially of its Eastern culture. It indicated the eastern direction in historical astronomy, often abbreviated "Ori."[3] In contemporary English, Oriental usually refers to things from the parts of East Asia traditionally occupied by East Asians and most Central Asians and Southeast Asians racially categorized as "Mongoloid". This excludes Jews, Indians, Arabs, and most other South or West Asian peoples. Because of historical discrimination against Chinese and Japanese, in some parts of the United States, some people consider the term derogatory. For example, Washington state prohibits the word "Oriental" in legislation and government documents, preferring the word "Asian" instead.[4]
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C/Gw anarchy: a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.
"he must ensure public order in a country threatened with anarchy"
synonyms:
lawlessness, nihilism, mobocracy, revolution, insurrection, disorder, chaos, mayhem, tumult, turmoil
"conditions are dangerously ripe for anarchy"
antonyms:
government, order
absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.
I don't see any voting happening here.
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Terry Walsh
I ask for reliable evidence supported by actual research, and you say I am not looking for the truth? Not wanting reliable information and trusting conspiracy sites with no science backing them is looking for the truth, how exactly? Further, how does using ad hominem against me advance your point? I am not trying to stir shit up, I am asking for evidence for absurd claims on the level of the moon hoaxers, and don't simply accept the word of conspiracy sites, and I'm a prick for it? Actual science does not operate on people's word with no evidence to back them, why should I believe them? Why would it be a simple matter to just believe people who have no evidence or credibility? Explain it to me, with evidence. Science does not iperate on people's word, "Nullius in verba," take nobody's word.
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So you cannot defend your point with logic and resort to childish name calling. How sad your education is so lacking that you do not know that by not addressing my points and instead using ad hominem, you continue to show only that I am right and that your position is indefensible. Are you still in grade school? Have you not learned about logical argumentation yet? If all you can do is call names, you admit you are wrong. If you have actual, credible evidence to present, ie. not from a conspiracy website, you already would have done so. You don't and you know you don't, is that making you mad bro? You mad 'cuz you know I'm right bro? If I'm not right, prove your points. Show the world wide hundred year long conspiracy exists, don't just make wild claims. Do you think that people who actually have an education in chemistry and physcis need to be paid to point out your fallacious logic? I do this for a hobby son, schooling dolts ain't easy but it's necessary. I love how you make another unsupported claim, that I am being paid to hide the truth, to defend your other unsupported claims. That's pretty funny, you not seeing the circular logic of that. Put up or shut up kid.
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Terry Walsh
Since you haven't had an education, I guess you cannot be expected to understand logical fallacy, so I'll post the definition of ad hominem so that you may mend your argumentation: "An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, means responding to arguments by attacking a person's character, rather than to the content of their arguments. When used inappropriately, it is a fallacy in which a claim or argument is dismissed on the basis of some irrelevant fact or supposition about the author or the person being criticized.[2]"
BTW, since you know that you are uneducated in the subjects of concern, why do you think you know better than all the scientists and aviation experts and historians that provide data proving you wrong? Like when they explain exactly how contrails form, explain the underlying physical processes, and even show you historical footage of contrails during wwii? Since you have no idea how anything works, why do you not believe people who have spent their entire lives studying these very subjects?
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What are they releasing, and what evidence do you have that "they" are doing it? Who are "they" and what evidence do you have for their existence? Name calling is still getting you nowhere. How do you not understand that believing something requires credible evidence? Do you not understand what credible means either? You are right that it certainly doesn't take much education to continue to make stuff up and call names. In fact, it is one of the hallmarks of a poor education. Why would you think that this is a positive thing or a mark for your side?
You can worry about what is happening under our noses, that's a good thing to do. The problem comes when you start worrying about things that aren't real and do not have any evidence to back them, like chemtrails, the moon being a projection, lizard overlords, and gnomes living 6 inches under Denver. These claims all have the same thing in common, they are all conspiracy theories, and none of them have evidence to back them.
This is not true for all conspiracy theories however. Some have a lot of evidence, like how the government's story about how JFK was assassinated not being true. The Zabruder Film disproves it. That's photographic, actual evidence of the back of his head flying off when the government said the shot came from the back. That is not how bullets work. All you have to do is provide credible evidence such as that. Show how those wwii videos of bombers over Europe making contrails are faked. Show how water does not form from the combustion of fuel in a jet engine, then show how that same water would not condense and freeze at high altitude due to the very low temperature.
Contrails are very easy to understand if you understand the chemistry of combustion. When you burn any hydrocarbon, you produce carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H20). A simple example is this the combustion of methane, which is carbon plus 4 hydrogen with a pair of oxygen atoms, called an oxygen molecule. The reaction is as follows CH4 + O2= H2O + CO2. If you think I am lying about combustion reactions producing water, I don't know what to tell you. If you're still with me so far, the engine has now burned the fuel with oxygen, then it expels this hot mixture out the back of the engine at high speed, producing thrust. At high altitudes, it is very cold. Look at some pictures of very high mountains, they usually have snow on them. It is because they are closer to space. The fact that it is cold cools the water and carbon dioxide mixture. When water is very hot, over 212 F, it is a gas, until 32 F, it is a liquid, under 32 F it is a solid. It is much colder at high altitude, more like -18 F. This cools the water so fast that it condenses quickly into water, then ice crystals. These ice crystals reflect water as they are a solid, unlike gaseous water. That reflected light then travels down to your eyeball, where you see it.
If you need any more details on how contrails form and why there is no need for chemicals to be dumped out of a plane to cause them, just ask. I actually know, I have learned about how the natural world works through many years of study. It is definitely possible to be uneducated and wise, which I hope you can be, but in order to be so you have to know when someone knows more than you do and that you could learn from them. Don't take my word for it, take physics classes. Through experimentation, you will see for yourself how things actually work, and not just how some dude on the internet says they work. Don't take my word, by all mean try to experiment and falsify my claims about how fuel burns and water condenses, that is the only way to true knowledge, prediction (you thinking that contrails can't be caused by condensing water) and experimentation (you proving water doesn't condense or isn't produced through combustion of hydrocarbons). I'll obviously never be able to convince you even with basic science because you have decided to dismiss my arguments out of hand, but why not try to prove I'm wrong? Wouldn't that strengthen your argument far more than name calling sir? Please try to think about what I wrote before you reply with further inanity, I am trying to reach you as one person to another.
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You need to take a chill pill man, it is possible to not know something with absolute certainty, but to also hold a belief in it. Unicorns for example. Do you think unicorns are real? If not, you are an a-unicornist. If you think they are real, you could be called a unicornist. Do you know for certain that unicorns are not real? Do you have proof or irrefutable evidence? If so, you are gnostic in your disbelief in unicorns. Gnostic means that you know. If you don't believe in unicorns because of the lack of evidence for the existence of unicorns however, but are open to the idea of evidence for unicorns possibly existing, then you are agnostic in your belief in unicorns. Agnostic and atheist are not mutually exclusive terms. But why take my word for it? Just read what Thomas Henry Huxley wrote when he invented the word agnostic: "Agnosticism, in fact, is not a creed, but a method, the essence of which lies in the rigorous application of a single principle ... Positively the principle may be expressed: In matters of the intellect, follow your reason as far as it will take you, without regard to any other consideration. And negatively: In matters of the intellect do not pretend that conclusions are certain which are not demonstrated or demonstrable." According to philosopher William L. Rowe, in the strict sense, agnosticism is the view that human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist.
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Harry : [writing HAPPY BIRTHDAY HARRY on the sand-like floor of the boat he and the Dursley's are in] Make a wish, Harry.
[looks at Dudley's watch, it is now his birthday, and blows on the dusty, sand-like floor, when someone is trying to break in, which wakes Dudley up]
Uncle Vernon : [come's into Dudley and Harry's room with a rifle and Aunt Petunia] Who's there?
[the door breaks open, and everyone screams in terror]
Hagrid : Sorry about that.
[puts door back on]
Uncle Vernon : I demand that you leave at once! You are breaking an entry!
Hagrid : [walks over to Vernon] Dry up, Dursley, you great prune!
[bends the rifle's end up and Vernon shoots and walks over to Dudley]
Hagrid : Boy, I hasn't seen yeh since you was a baby, Harry, but you're a little bit longer that I expected, especially right in the middle.
Dudley Dursley : I-I'm not Harry.
Harry : [walks over to Hagrid] I am.
Hagrid : Well, of course you are. Got somethin' for yeh, 'fraid I may have sat on it at some point, but I imagine it'll taste just the same.
[gives Harry a box]
Hagrid : Painted it myself, words and all.
[Dudley looks jealous]
Harry : [opens the box, to reveal a cake that says HAPPEE BIRTHDAE HARRY on it] Thank you.
Hagrid : It's not every day your young man turns eleven, eh?
[repeated line]
Hagrid : Shouldn't have told yeh tha'.
[in King's Cross]
Hagrid : What are you lookin' at?
Hagrid : You're a wizard, Harry
[Filch escorts Harry, Ron, Hermione and Draco to Hagrid's hut]
Caretaker Argus Filch : A pity they let the old punishments die. Was a time detention would find you hanging by your thumbs in the dungeons.
[Draco grimaces; Hermione looks shocked]
Caretaker Argus Filch : God, I miss the screaming.
[Hagrid steps out of his hut]
Caretaker Argus Filch : You'll be serving detention with Hagrid tonight. He's got a little job to do inside the Dark Forest.
[Filch and the students gather around the campfire]
Caretaker Argus Filch : A sorry lot, this, Hagrid.
[Hagrid, ignoring Filch, sadly picks up a crossbow]
Caretaker Argus Filch : Oh, good God, man, you're not still on about that bloody dragon, are you?
Hagrid : [sniffles] Norbert's gone. Dumbledore sent him off to Romania to live in a colony.
Hermione : Well, that's good, isn't it? He'll be with his own kind.
Hagrid : Yeah, but what if he don't like Romania?
[Filch rolls his eyes]
Hagrid : What if the other dragons are mean to him? He's only a baby, after all.
Caretaker Argus Filch : Oh, for God's sake, pull yourself together, man! You're going into the forest, after all. Got to have your wits about you.
Draco Malfoy : The forest? I thought that was a joke. We can't go in there.
[Filch turns to face him]
Draco Malfoy : Students aren't allowed. And there are...
[a wolf howls in the distance; Ron looks scared]
Draco Malfoy : ... werewolves.
Caretaker Argus Filch : Oh, there's more than werewolves in those trees, lad. You can be sure of that.
[before returning to the castle]
Caretaker Argus Filch : Nighty-night.
Hagrid : Right. Let's go.
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That's not what he said, that's what you said. You seem confused and lacking in education. I'm sorry your parents and politicians failed you and stole it from you. You see, education, healthcare, and infrastructure are all run better by the government than by the private sector. This is because by defining profit as the motivation in these fields, the actual objective, health, education, and infrastructure necessarily suffer for the benefit of profit. That's why roads and dams aren't privately made. I know you've never thought about any of this, but you should if you want to be politically active. You are aware that the New Deal was one of the most wildly successful programs ever and it saved America from the Great Depression, right? This is just like it. You have some reading to do.
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So you have no education to speak of and no evidence for your claims? Nice fail, kiddo. You might be chronologically old, but you're mentally a child if you don't understand evidence and the scientific method, as demonstrated by your wall of ignorance. There are adult colleges available to rescue you from your lack of education. You are 15 years older than me, but you just demonstrated you lack any basic science education. Again, science is the only and last word on matters of science such as this. Your uniformed intuition is entirely worthless. Your personal anecdotes are not evidence. A wise man relies on the scientific method only as it is the only method ever shown to provide consistent results. Every single piece of technology you used to post about what you don't understand relies on science, not intuition, instinct, or preference.
Furthermore, you don't seem to understand the concept of scientific consensus at all. It is not opinion based, it is evidence based. The fact that scientific theories change with new evidence is not a weakness, but a strength. The highest level of human knowledge is the theory. A theory can never be proven, it can only describe observations reported in reality more accurately. Science lacks dogma. You seem to be confusing it with religion. Did you never attend school past high school? You seem to have been taught a twisted straw-man version of science by science deniers. Stop basing your decisions on voodoo and intuition like a child or animal and base on them on evidence like an adult.
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It takes 3.5 kWh to purify a cubic meter of seawater. Let's round up and give people 100L per day. There's 1000L in that cubic meter of water so that's enough for 10 people for one day. For every day for all of the people in Capetown (3.75 million people) that's 1.3 million kwh. This can be made, with a complete combustion, fission or California climate, with approx. 162,500 kg of coal, approx. 108,000 kg of mineral oil and around 0.054 kg of uranium-235, or about a 9,000,000 watt, 13 km^2 solar panel installation. It looks doable.
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+Dain Sorensen You gave evidence of a worldwide conspiracy? Where??? The post with a link to the evidence must have been deleted by "them". You made a claim that all eye doctors don't know what they are talking about and are in a world-wide conspiracy to lie to you about their origins for unknown reasons, then provided no evidence of such. I do not need to do anything at all to prove you wrong as you haven't proven your claim to be correct. That which is claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Learn about the burden of proof kid; it's on those making the positive claim, not those that doubt them. Extraordinary claims, like world-wide conspiracies to lie about eye floaters, need extraordinary evidence too. The word of an anonymous clown on the internet isn't evidence either, kid. Especially when the medical community has come to this conclusion from their research. Provide peer-reviewed or legal documents to back your idiotic, dumb ass claims or STFU. Adults are talking. Also, no, I do not need to look up the evidence for the current consensus as it is already accepted fact in the scientific community. People challenging the consensus, which was built upon evidence not opinion, need to provide counter evidence, which you do not.
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You mean that survey of a tiny minority of sceintists who are not even in climate science? Lol kid, lol.
"In fact, OISM signatories represent a tiny fraction (~0.3%) of all US science graduates (petition cards were only sent to individuals within the U.S)
According to figures from the US Department of Education Digest of Education Statistics: 2008, 10.6 million science graduates have gained qualifications consistent with the OISM polling criteria since the 1970-71 school year. 32,000 out of 10 million is not a very compelling figure, but a tiny minority - approximately 0.3 per cent.
There are many issues casting doubt on the validity of this petition. On investigation, attempts to undermine the scientific consensus on climate change often appear to have ideological roots, vested business interests or political sponsors. The claims made for the OISM petition do not withstand objective scrutiny, and the assertions made in the petition are not supported by evidence, data or scientific research.
Several studies conducted independently (Oreskes 2004, Oreskes 2007, Doran and Zimmerman (2009), Anderegg et al. (2010), Cook et. al., 2013) have shown that 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are causing the climate to change, and that anthropogenic greenhouse gases are causing global changes to the climate. These views form the scientific consensus on climate change."
All I had to do to rebut you idiotic, fake survey was copy what you posted and google it. The rebuttal is the first result. If all you can muster is bullshit, clearly your argument is bullshit. Gg kid.
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+David Turpin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem
"The no-communication theorem states that, within the context of quantum mechanics, it is not possible to transmit classical bits of information by means of carefully prepared mixed or pure states, whether entangled or not. The theorem disallows all communication, not just faster-than-light communication, by means of shared quantum states.[citation needed] The theorem disallows not only the communication of whole bits, but even fractions of a bit. This is important to take note of, as there are many classical radio communications encoding techniques that can send arbitrarily small fractions of a bit across arbitrarily narrow, noisy communications channels. In particular, one may imagine that there is some ensemble that can be prepared, with small portions of the ensemble communicating a fraction of a bit; this, too, is not possible."
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Hagrid : You're a wizard, Harry!
Harry : I'm a what?
Hagrid : If that dolt of a cousin of yours, Dudley, gives you any grief, you could always, um, threaten him with a nice pair of ears to go with that tail of his.
Harry : But, Hagrid, we're not allowed to do magic away from Hogwarts. You know that.
Hagrid : I do, but your cousin don't, do he?
Hagrid : You all right there, Harry? You seem very quiet.
Harry : He killed my parents, didn't he?
[puts a hand to his scar]
Harry : The one who gave me this?
[Hagrid is silent]
Harry : You know, Hagrid. I know you do.
[Hagrid sighs and pushes his bowl aside]
Hagrid : First - and understand this, Harry, 'cause it's very important - not all wizards are good. Some of them go bad. A few years ago there was one wizard that went as bad as you can go, and his name was V-
[sighs]
Hagrid : his name was V...
Harry : Maybe if you wrote it down...
Hagrid : Nah, I can't spell it. Alright
[whispers]
Hagrid : 'Voldemort'
Harry : [loudly] Voldemort?
Hagrid : Shhh! It was dark times, Harry, dark times. Voldemort started to gather some followers, brought 'em over to the dark side. Anyone who stood up to him ended up dead. Your parents fought against him, but nobody lived once he decided to kill them. Nobody... not one... 'cept you.
Harry : Me? Voldemort tried to kill... ME?
Hagrid : Yes. That ain't no ordinary cut on your forehead. A mark like that only comes from being touched by a curse, and an evil curse at that.
Harry : What happened to Vol- to You-Know-Who?
Hagrid : Well, some say he died. Codswallop in my opinion. Nope, I reckon he's still out there, too tired to carry on. But one thing's certain, something about you stumped him that night. That's why you're famous, Harry, that's why everybody knows your name. You're the boy who lived.
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+dead boy Canada, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, and all other modern countries including our own. Also, notice that you are attacking a source, not the information the source provided. This shows that even you know you are wrong and cannot refute the information. Why keep fighting if you know you're wrong? Are you trying to fool yourself? Also, the Washington post didn't do the study, they were reporting on it. How fucking stupid are you kid?
Can you tell us why you think socialism is bad? What is wrong with social security or free college or free medical care when all the other countries in the world who are poorer than us have it? Why do we have to pay far more money for a worse education and healthcare than people in Slovenia? You can't even put a sentence together you're so uneducated. Don't you see, you are the evidence for why we need socialism. You are currently arguing for it with every deranged, ignorant post.
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oldsexy
You seem to be lacking a basic education as your questions don't make sense, so I'll help
"Appeal to Belief
A fallacy is an argument based on unsound logic. Appeal to belief is a type of fallacy. Essentially, the argument is that because many people believe something, it must be true. This logic is unsound because it doesn't matter how many people believe a thing, it still might not be the truth."
Also, one does not need to prove a negative, one needs to prove positives. You need to show that your god exists, no one needs to show it doesn't, just like with any other claim you've ever made in your life. If I claim that another god exists, do you need to disprove it? If I claim that I am a hyperdimensional invisible pink unicorn communicating to you through the ether, do you need to prove that such things don't exist to not believe my absurd claim? Of course not. For the same reason you don't have to prove I'm not your father if I claim I am I don't have to believe in your god without you showing it to be true first. See how logic works now? Probably not lol.
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+Mike C
"Yes when a chicken egg is fertilized, it begins its journey into chicken-hood.
Same with a human embryo.
Is this difficult to comprehend?"
So you literally think you are eating a chicken when you see a red spot in the egg? I win. Game over, you just broke the stupid meter.
"Just Sperm or just an egg is not a complex, gestating life form.
It is only life in a simple form and incomplete."
How is a fertilized egg compete? It has no nervous system, it cannot feel, why is it wrong to terminate it? Why is it's potentiality of any importance? You keep not answering.
"Cancer cells are not gestating human life forms."
Why would a group of cells being a potential person in any way be distinct?
Both are unfeeling masses of cells. Why is what it will become important? It isn't that now, is it? Are you having chicken and bacon or eggs and bacon, moron? Why do you think a person magically pops into the room when sperm and egg meet?
"You will see by the article above that science has no consensus on
when life begins and hence is still inconclusive."
I see no article above but even if there was one it wouldn't refute the formation time of the nervous system, which is when something gains the ability to feel pain and have sensation and process information. It might as well be a wart until then. For shits and giggles, try to name an article that actually supports your argument. Remember though, the question isn't when life begins, it's when it becomes a person. You think it's a person when it's one cell. Defend your position, if you can.
"But dehumanize your biased argument all you want."
You don't seem to understand how to use words correctly. I'm not dehumanizing my argument, even in your eyes. I'm "dehumanizing" an unfeeling clump of cells which isn't a human. You cannot dehumanize an argument or something that isn't human. Also, what is my argument biased towards? You fail to mention this. I'm gonna say science and fact.
"But you have some serious issues here admitting life exists."
I have no issue in any way admitting that the cells are alive. What you are having trouble with is actually addressing my argument that there is nothing wrong with terminating unfeeling cells. You haven't even tried once.
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@bigphillyed What is the law that gives us the right to invade any country that hasn't attacked us? I'll wait. Wars of aggression are illegal. What happens in other countries isn't our business, why would it be? Why would you think that the default is that the US has the right to invade countries and that you'd need a law specifically saying that you can't? Also, the US killed over 250,000 civilians in the invasion and occupation, far more than Saddam ever gassed. Further info specifically on how wars of aggression and this war is illegal can be found at the wikipedia entry for the legality of the Iraq war. They lied us into the war, telling us first that they did 9/11, then that they have WMD's, then that he's a "bad dude" that gasses his own people while simultaneous supporting Saudi Arabia, the funders of the 9/11 attacks, wahabiist Islam, ISIS, and beheaders of witches and political dissenters. If gassing your own people was a reason to invade we would have invaded Saudi Arabia instead. You can't argue shit because all your bs has been refuted at least a decade ago.
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