Comments by "" (@ThePlainBagel) on "Cash Flows Explained" video.
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I’d have to disagree to an extent with this. Certainly, you run equity risk when you’re invested, but it’s not a greater fool situation if fundamentals support a higher value.
As a shareholder, you get percentage claim to a company’s profits. If a stock is trading very high without supporting profitability, that is speculation, but just because a company keeps their dividend doesn’t mean their stock’s value isn’t supported. You can also have a company perform share buybacks, which is almost equivalent to a dividend payment but the investor doesn’t get the cash payment, instead their share value increases by an equivalent amount. Sure, that amount is still at risk, but it’s no different than receiving a dividend and reinvesting it into the company, in fact it has a tax advantage.
On top of all of that, a share’s value is backed by the assets of a company; if the company shuts down tomorrow, you get compensated by the proceeds that come from the assets. Obviously, there’s a whole bunch of risk here, but it’s not like the shares don’t represent anything
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Share buybacks do benefit shareholders, that statement is simply not correct. For the company, it is the exact same as paying a dividend, so the firm doesn't benefit from the payout. For investors, it also offers a similar benefit, and you can simply decide to sell a portion of your share if you want cash instead. They are theoretically equivalent transactions.
I'd be interested where the 29% figure is from, and what stocks it's looking at (if it includes all start ups which many investors don't partake in, it's very misleading of average returns). Investors who hold an S&P500 position have earned remarkable PRICE returns over the past 40 years.
Again, the price of a stock is not fundamentally 0. Take a real estate company. I'm sure you agree that houses hold tangible value that should increase over time as population grows (if not, let me know, that's a core assumption here). A real estate company buys and operates real estate. As a shareholder, you have a tangible claim to a percentage value of those buildings. As they go up in value, so too does your claim. In this circumstance, it should be easy to see that the stock has fundamental value; it's equivalent to you and your friends meeting up, splitting the costs of a house, and hiring someone to manage it. Even if you and your friends never take a dividend and just use the money to buy more buildings, your shares are certainly not worthless.
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