Comments by "Sun Tzu" (@Sun-Tzu-) on "Why Chinese Manufacturing Wins" video.

Communism wins.
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@Mordacai It was slaves revolting that concluded in Communism.
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@Mordacai Okay, lets get this out the way now. No country has ever been "Communist", the closest being the Israeli Kibbutz. What people call "Communism" when is reference to the USSR, China, etc. is Authoritarian Socialism. And Russia stopped being Socialist in the 1960s, and China in the early 1980's. Venezuela has never even been Socialist, they failed to achieve it in the first place, so they can't lose it. A country is Socialist when the means of production are owned and maintained by the government and the profit from companies get evenly divided among the workers of that company. The Communist Manifesto describes this working in Socialism by using a factory as an example, the harder any worker works, the more every worker gets payed. For instance if they make cars, the money made from selling a car will be divided among all the workers involved, then the harder someone works the faster a car can be made and the more cars can get sold and the more money each worker gets, so the workers own the factory they work in and they don't get their paychecks decided by some management somewhere. And all money collected by tax will go into maintaining the country and providing the Society with things like free healthcare and education, this is a part of Socialism that is successfully adopted in parts of Western Europe, like Britain and Scandinavia. Weekends are also a socialist concept where all workers get allocate time off each week. Communism is like Socialism but the government also owns all businesses, and the profits from all lines of work to to the government, where they divide it evenly among the workers and none of it goes to the government until tax. Where the whole country is run like a Socialist factory. And ideally there can be a point where no money is needed at all. No country has ever achieved or even tried Communism, it is always used as motivation in Socialist countries, as a final goal to work towards, but it has never been achieved. Places like Cuba, Venezuela, and North Korea all had revolutions promising Socialism, but none of then even got close to delivering it, China, Vietnam and Russia are the only ones to succeed, but all failed when greed, corruption and American meddling ruined everything. Socialism does work, it only fails when they stop practicing it, and you could say that about absolutely everything. So nobody has even seen Authoritarian Socialism unless you either lived in China pre 1980 or in the Soviet Union pre 1970, anyone born after that has only seen the decline of Socialism well after their government failed them, nothing else, and if that's your only concept of Socialism, then of course you are going to think that Socialism doesn't work. But just remember Capitalism has led to far more deaths and failed countries than Socialism ever did.
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@Mordacai The USSR were never Communist. They had little to no aspects of Communism, they built the USSR on Socialist values that they lost well before the fall of the Soviet Union. I have read all the history books describing the rise and fall of the Soviet Union, everything went wrong when they stopped becoming Socialist. They went from a civil war to the largest, most powerful nation on earth, pioneering in science, social welfare and war, all because of Socialism, they defeated the Nazis and saved Europe, they gave us weekends, benefits and free healthcare and education, a model that many countries today practice. Socialism leaves people a lot freer than Capitalism, no crippling debt, no having to struggle to pay for basic human necessities like healthcare. Much less of a chance of homelessness and starvation, Capitalism is a system built of the rich exploiting the poor, there isn't any other way to look at it. Workers do all the work and CEOs get all the money. You say that there ins't any innovation, yet they pioneered nuclear energy and got to space first. Oligarchs are an effect of Socialism failing, there were no Oligarchs during the rise of the Soviet Union, in fact they hunted them down and killed them. It was nations running out of money that cause the Socialist revolution in the first place, the aim of Socialism is to remove the crippling reliance on money. They immigrated after Socialism failed, you are forgetting the first 40 golden years of Socialism, you always seem to skip right to the end, funny that. When people talk about the power of Germany in WW2, they don't seem to include 1945. Wonder why that is? Communism wins, because the very act of people trying to achieve it has created superpowers. It hasn't ever been tried yet it has had a profound affect on the world. I never said I didn't like the concept of war. Socialism is built on war and revolution, it is essential for human progression, more inventions come to fruition during wartime than any other.
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@Mordacai Putin is a Capitalist. Russia stopped being remotely left wing in the mid 90's. Modern Russia is far from Socialist, they stopped being Socialist in the 60's and have since lost nearly all Socialist values. China are the one ones who used to be Socialist but have kept a number of Socialist values since, and they are ruling the world.
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@Mordacai Communism does work when the people manage the government just as much as the other way around, like they did for the first 20 years. And you do get to say something about society in Socialism, remember Tiananmen Square?
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@Mordacai Democracy is a mistake. The people are idiots, why trust them to say what goes on. Every time the people get given a choice they make everyone's life worse. Trump, Brexit, Nazis in Brazil, revolution in Iran, revolution in Turkey, etc. A republic is a country without hereditary leadership, not the opposite of a democracy, they coexist in most countries. The voting system in America is a joke, the worst parts of all forms of election in one, corrupt "professionals", gerrymandering, idiots not knowing what they are voting for, virtually nobody votes, a 2 party system, no limit on candidate spending, 4 year terms, a limited amount of reelections. Socialism is giving the people what they actually want, not what you tell them they want, or what they think they want, they don't understand anything they want, only what they have. You do need to salute your president, people scream "traitor" when you kneel before the flag. People are wanting to go to the US because it is either the closest country they could find work in, or they have bought into all of the American propaganda, "Land of the brave", "home of the free", all that bullshit. Plenty of countries offer what America has, only better, like Canada or Scandinavia, or Japan, or Britain, etc.
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@Mordacai The US has jobs because there are thousands of companies with millions of employees. And America is lacking Socialism and it is worse of, some parts of the US are worse off that third world counties that receive UN aid. And immigrants do go to all of the places stated prior, more so than the US. None of the countries rely of US military aid, in fact Japan, the only one that actually has a defense pact with the US is begging to break away due to all of the problems with North Korea the US are causing. Churchill was a terrible leader, and Britain was doing just fine before the US entered the war, they'd cracked the Enigma Code, they won the Battle of Britain and completely wiped the Germans out of Africa all before America would get off it's ass. So German were far from "annihilating" them. If America is so strong then how did a socialist country kick it's ass in every war they fought, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba. America have been no use in any war they have ever fought, they have only won like 55% of all wars they fought in, and only seem to pick on countries, seemingly too small to defend themselves and end up losing any way.
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@Mordacai Soviet Russia had more jobs, as they had a larger population than the US and very little unemployment. And Russia has thousands of immigrants from all over their sphere of influence, even Japanese and Koreans in places like Vladivostok. Socialism makes jobs and let you keep them, or gives you another if you are not needed, if you can't do your job anymore in the US, you are made redundant. Socialism is about turning those losers into productive employees, you have to work anyway, what does it matter if someone else benefits off it, in a Socialist society, when you work, you get payed and some other poor guy gets helped, in a Capitalist society, when you work, you get payed and some CEO gets helped. Someone is benefiting off your work in every society, it's the point of working, but I'd rather my labor went to helping another in my situation for them to do the same for me one day, than my labor going to some CEO who doesn't need it and doesn't give a shit about who's working for him. In Socialism if you aren't working it's because you can't work, what if one day you get hit by a car and you break your back and become paralyzed, you are now a "slacky", would you not want the state to look after you? Again why would you are were your money goes, you get your share for working and you give some of it to others, that's called tax, and no matter where you are you pay it. Right now your taxes goes towards bombing hospitals in Syria, I'd rather my taxes went to helping others in my own country, or anywhere for that matter. Nobody says that I don't want to be boss, but I wouldn't want to make more than some other guy doing the exact same job or more than I do. A leader should be there to lead his workers, not to sit around doing fuck all and then taking a larger wage than everybody else. Bill Gates hasn't worked a day in 20 years. I currently live in Britain and have taken full advantage if it's free education system and healthcare system, and I'm happy knowing my taxes go towards helping others in need.
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@Mordacai What you are talking about is benefits, a concept you were just against in the last few comments. All of the state funded benefits you just listed, are Socialist concepts, a Capitalist would want to capitalist on suffering, that's what they do, they even sell bulletproof school bags for children, they are literally capitalizing on the murder of school children. And you still need to apply yourself to get the grades to go onto further education in a Socialist society, you just don't have to pay for your entry as well. I am not criticizing Bill Gates, he's done more than the US government has to help the poor and in need, that's not what I was saying, I was just saying that a CEO gets payed more than the workers for doing less work. Where I'm from we donate all the time no non-profit hospitals, we just call them "hospitals" and it comes out out tax. In a Socialist society they give the money to the sector that needs it, not the most popular. In a Socialist society, they don't always decide your occupation, if you want to go through education, you can do what job you want, but the people who get their jobs chosen, are the kinds of people who wouldn't get much of a choice in a Capitalist country, the uneducated. You think somebody just said to Mikhail Kalashnikov, "you will be a firearms designer", or to Yuri Gagarin "you will be a cosmonaut"? No. They studied, trained and worked hard and got where they needed to be. And most Socialist countries never chose jobs for anyone, it was mainly Eastern European countries and they mainly used criminals and POWs for the jobs that needed doing with nobody to do them, that's what Gulags are for. It's the exact same thing that happens in the US, $74 billion of the US GDP each year comes from free labor provided by prisoners. You think they got a choice in what they do for a living?
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