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@OceanFrontVilla3
Well, I didn't want to mention it at first, but apparently the governments have forgotten about the 2009 debacle, when they vaccinated against swine flu.
I didn't want to mention narcolepsy, but it has mostly affected toddlers who still had 70 to maybe 80 years of life to come, but whose lives were totally destroyed by this incurable condition so unbearable to live with that many narcolepsy patients commit suicide.
The vaccination campaign in 2009, unnecessary because the epidemic was already on its way back, was stopped and the vaccines were destroyed.
Afterwards, every effort was made to deny the link between the narcolepsy cases and the vaccine.
Still, the Dutch government paid some of them compensation, because the vaccine manufacturer had been given carte blanche and could not be held liable.
The same is happening now.
If things ever go wrong, the vaccine manufacturers will go free and the government will pay for the damage.
For the record, the government is WE, the taxpayer.
No vaccine is without risk, keep that in mind.
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@richardw2646
Quote; "but the rest of the world knows the truth'".
You mean your truth?
The figures I gave are the WHO figures.
You juggle with figures ranging from 0.5 to 1%?
An increase from 0.5 to 1% is an increase of 100%.
So you do use a very stretchy elastic.
I don't know where you get your data, but I have no desire whatsoever to get you out of your fear hypnosis.
So it doesn't matter what I think or you think, does it?
I just find it strange that there are people who just take a risk without thinking, without realizing it.
Well, that is not really strange, because the media propaganda does a good job of promoting (free) advertising for the vaccine manufacturers.
When it comes to a disease such as smallpox, tetanus or polio, a vaccine can be justified.
Even if these vaccines have side effects.
But in this case it is indefensible.
The mutational properties of these viruses is the main reason why vaccine manufacturers never attempted to develop a vaccine for them.
Because the development of a valid vaccine takes about 5 to 20 years to study its long-term effects.
Something that has not happened here and that can't be done with these mutating viruses.
Hence the 2009 debacle with the swine flu vaccine.
The fact that they are now (again) trying to force this is a complete mystery to me.
They clearly haven't learned anything from it.
But when it all goes wrong, the true responsibles will escape their responsibility, the victims who have walked into it with their eyes closed will bear the consequences.
In any case, I am not walking into it.
By no means.
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@noelcayer3599
When they give you a flu shot, you get a cocktail of three to four vaccines, one of which they hope will work against the variant to come.
That did not work very well in 2018.
A variant surfaced to which the cocktail did not responded well.
Vaccinated, well, supposedly vaccinated people got the flu anyway, and many died.
Almost as many died as of corona now.
Also with overcrowded ICs like now.
But no drama was woven around.
Strange, isn't it?
The point remains: It has never been possible to market a vaccine that causes no side effects in certain people.
Some with permanent lifelong injuries, such as the swine flu vaccine in 2009, which led to narcolepsy in some, including small children.
The time span in which that corona vaccine was developed is far too short.
Certainly those vaccines based on that new mRNA type that has never been used in humans.
So I stick to my point: The mutational properties of these viruses is the main reason why vaccine manufacturers never attempted to develop a vaccine for them.
Because the development of a valid vaccine takes about 5 to 20 years to study its long-term effects.
Something that has not happened here and that can't be done with these mutating viruses.
Hence the 2009 debacle with the swine flu vaccine.
A very risky business, which made me decide not to get vaccinated.
Incidentally, unnecessary because I was already naturally infected with the corona virus in May last year and survived it with ease at the age of 66.
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@marioenc04
I don't have a thesis on the sinovac vaccine at all.
I don't know where you get that from.
It is well known that the development of vaccines takes years, at least 5 to sometimes 20 years, to investigate all long-term effects.
I don't have to search for or give up sources for that.
This is well known and scientifically not disputed.
So, I don't know what you mean.
But if vaccines take years to be considered safe, then you don't have to be a genius to know and realize that these hastily marketed vaccines are not without risk.
The narcolepsy cases in 2009 showed that.
The Dutch government in 2009 stopped vaccinating and burned any remaining vaccines, but said there was no link to the narcolepsy cases.
Nevertheless, the government has paid compensation to certain persons.
This information is easy to find online, although some information is in Dutch.
Moreover, I have already followed many conversations with Dutch doctors, which will be of no use to you if you do not understand the language.
But many of these doctors say they would not take the vaccination, from these hastily developed vaccines.
They argue that the severity of the disease, with an IFR of only 0.23, does not outweigh the risks of the vaccination.
This is of course completely different with serious diseases, such as polio, smallpox or tetanus.
Let me put it this way, I was infected by the corona virus in May last year.
Despite my advanced age, 66, I had a chance.
I did have a mild fever, sore throat, cough and the worst of it was an unexplained fatigue that I had never experienced before.
We are now almost a year later and look, I'm still alive.
My father had a brother, my uncle.
Which I never knew, because he died of tetanus in 1939 at the age of eleven.
The boy had no chance at all.
The doctor said to my grandmother: "you know what pain is, you have already given birth to children, but the pain this boy is going through is beyond description".
With tetanus, every muscle in your body cramps, until eventually your heart muscle cramps and death puts you out of your misery.
Now, if you think I'm an anti-vacser, you're wrong.
I've been vaccinated against polio, smallpox and of course also tetanus, but not measles.
When I was a child, in the 1950s, that was not yet common and we just got all the childhood diseases that made us immune for the rest of our lives.
I respect Dr John Campbell, but the claim that vaccines will eradicate this virus is inconsistent with Professor Dr. Theo Schetters, who works in South Africa and also has several patents for vaccines on animals to his name.
According to Dr. Theo Schetters, even if one had to succeed in getting rid of this corona virus completely in humans, then the virus will continue to live on in the animal world among wild animals, including mustelids, and will reappear again and again under one or another variant .
In other words, we will have to learn to live with it.
Something that does not seem to have penetrated the authorities yet.
As Christine P described it earlier:
"These are EXPERIMENTAL vaccines, they've not been licensed, they received emergency use authorization only, and the manufacturerers have been indemnified from liability."
I couldn't have said it better.
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@gavinparks5386
Well, the person who infected me is younger than me, but he was infected by his 82-year-old father-in-law, who survived the infection.
Spicy detail: the father-in-law 82 contracted the infection in the hospital while he was there for an unrelated treatment.
So, the hospital is the place to be.
One more detail, none of my relatives, grandparents, parents, aunts or uncles ever turned 80.
The oldest was my maternal grandfather, who had the blessed age of 76 when he passed away in 1964.
So, what are we actually talking about?
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@rmakids
Well, I was infected with corona in May last year at the age of 66, survived and came out a stronger person, like I did after every viral or bacterial infection in my life.
When I was eight, which must have been in '62, I was infected with a bacterial intestinal infection, which gave me a fever of 41.1 ° C.
Almost deadly.
I was taken from the boarding school I was, in to the hospital, treated with antibiotics and quarantined in my hospital room.
That's how it went, the sick person was quarantined, not the healthy one.
Even the boarding school where I attended was not quarantined.
Now you get the absurd situation that healthy people are locked up, are not allowed to have contact with each other, the economy is going to collapse and the number of infections continues.
Judging from your response, the scare tactic and fear psychosis you are in, and which is fueled by media complicity, has clearly got you well.
Lock yourself in a forest, far from the people, no contact with people, sick or healthy, and hope that you don't catch a disease from some wild animal, if that makes you happy.
But after, say, 40 years, you will be a weakling, who will take the brunt of it at the slightest contamination, because you will be left with a weakened immune system that is not up to date and will abandon you completely and not be able to protect you.
Try to get out of your tunnel vision and turn your focus away from the fear object you are fixating on.
Maybe then, with a little good will of yourself, you will see that this whole vaccine situation is an outright experiment.
Remember that the lockdown is a political decision that has nothing to do with medical science.
I never went along with that fear story.
From the moment the lockdown was imposed, in my country on Friday, March 13, 2020, I knew they had gone mad.
I haven't been in it for a day.
I stayed sober all the time, even when I became infected myself.
And I'm still sober, while I watch the madness around me with open mouth.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
Finally someone with meaningful comments.
Still, I disagree with your conclusion.
You indicate that the long-term effects cannot be predicted.
However, suppose, only a hypothesis, that the vaccine triggers leukemia in, for example, 5% of the now vaccinated people within five years.
It would be an unprecedented catastrophe, even if the number were only 5%.
So what is happening now (my personal opinion) is actually playing Russian roulette with a large part of the population.
But that aside.
There is the disproportionate anxiety psychosis that has been/is being created around this coronavirus.
Now, for example, it is the new variants that add to and prolong the fear.
Is this really necessary?
Is it justified that the WHO placed the virus in category A, together with Ebola, for example?
According to that doomsday scenario, 3 to 4% of people would die from this virus, while if you take the current figures from the WHO and make the calculation, you get an IFR of 0.23%.
So it was based on a blatant lie.
But that was not the only lie, it was also said "It is a completely new virus that no people have any resistance against".
A second blatant lie.
It's all pretty clear to me.
Well, not all, I wonder is the WHY of all this, that is still not clear to me.
You cite the flu example yourself.
As a physician you will know that every autumn a flu shot is offered to those interested, this shot is a cocktail of 3 to 4 at that time "KNOWN" variants.
The variant that will emerge in the coming winter is usually "UNKNOWN".
But it is hoped for that this cocktail will form some defense against the coming variant.
Sometimes, however, things can go badly and the flu shot does not seem to provide the expected protection at all, as it happened in 2018.
When the hospitals were also overloaded and there were a large number of deaths, even people who had had the flu shot.
I respect medical science.
When you see the progress that has been made in, say, the last 200 years, it is enormous.
I will not say that medical science is "TOTALLY" powerless against these respiratory viruses, but for now, as they say in my language here it is, "Mop the floor with the tap open".
It may be clear that I am not in the anxiety psychosis caused by the WHO, the politicians and (especially) the media.
I will not let my brain be tainted by media propaganda.
When I watch or listen to the media, all I see is how they spin the story in a propagandistic way.
So I can think freely and openly, without fear psychosis.
But being able to express my opinion openly (a human right after all) that is something else.
You should see the list of swear words I've already gotten over me from mainly scared people.
Sad.
As a physician, you will (perhaps?) Be interested in what this man has to say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrZxCx6L6g&t=1229s&ab_channel=BLCKBX
English subtitles can be requested via the settings of the video.
He was immediately cracked after this broadcast by the mainstream media, who could not appreciate his opinion, because of course it does not support their fear-mongering.
He then came up with another broadcast, for which there are currently no English subtitles, in which he maintains his position and says that more attention should be paid to the risk groups.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
Usually I try to sort of prepare my answer since English is not my native language, but now I don't know where to start. LOL.
I base my reasoning and (personal) judgment, partly on data and other information, but also on my own (life) experience.
I will be 67 in a few months and once got the comment here in the YouTube comments from someone, that boomers have no life experience.
Anyway, first some observations.
The average age (death rates) of this virus would (according to the data), depending on country, be around 80 years.
Let this be the average life expectancy in our regions (Western Europe).
Someone recently said to me in a comment here that in the 80 year old age bracket you would have an IFR of 10%.
I don't know what that man relied on, nor have I disputed it, since I know that most of the victims are elderly.
But, if I look in my family (relatives), aunts, uncles, parents and grandparents, none of them have turned 80.
The oldest was my maternal grandfather, who passed away in 1964 at the age of 76.
Not that I don't want to turn 80, but then I have to wait and see.
Cancer played a big role.
My mother turned 56 and died of ovarian cancer.
Her brother, my uncle, turned 42 and died of colon cancer.
On my father's side, my grandmother turned 54 and died of a malfunctioning heart valve, which they might be able to replace now, but it happened in 1961 and then they couldn't help her.
My father's brother, an uncle (whom I never knew) died of tetanus in 1939 at the age of eleven.
My father died of throat cancer at the age of 72.
To which I add that for the last ten years of his life he was a wreck, he could no longer speak (aphasia), caused by a brain thrombosis.
He had also had a lung thrombosis, all complications he got after heart surgery (bypass).
My father was a drinker and heavy smoker, so he eventually died, not of the ailments he had suffered from for over ten years, but of a carcinoma of the throat, which appears to be typical of the combination of smoking and alcohol.
So he probably owes it to himself.
Why am I providing all this personal information?
To give you an idea, because of course it strongly influences how I view the subject of health and death.
I am not an anti-vaxxer at all and have been vaccinated against smallpox, polio and tetanus.
But, as you say, a human (individual) makes a risk assessment.
Of course, the IFR is very important, but also how great the risk is of contracting the disease.
Someone who works with horses a lot is more likely to get tetanus compared to someone who does desk work, does not do dirty and heavy work and rarely has injuries.
My personal (life) experiences certainly influence my judgment.
A very important point I have learned in my life is that fear is a "very" bad advisor.
In fear you sometimes make the most irrational, wrong and fatal irreversible decisions with far-reaching consequences.
I therefore guard myself against fear and will certainly not get carried away in a fear psychosis and certainly not if the focus is on one object, which creates a narrowing of the image and you lose all perspective and can no longer see, let alone judge the broader picture.
Now, and this is also because of my personal experiences, I have "no" great regard for politics and politicians.
I don't live in the Netherlands, but in the Netherlands, the government (politicians) has overhauled health care over the last ten to fifteen years and the number of hospital beds is now reduced to only 50% than it used to be, let's say 15 years ago.
As a result, for example, the Netherlands has only 1/4 of the number of hospital beds per inhabitant compared to Germany
So the lack of capacity in case of disaster or epidemic is caused by the austerity policy of the government.
This lack of capacity also manifests itself in a severe flu, such as in 2018, this also made the news, but strangely enough was not dramatized.
What I mean is, the hospital overload is not so much the fault of the virus as of a policy that has not taken all factors into account.
Is healthcare expensive?
Of course.
But is it wise to phase out health care at a time when life expectancy is high and rising, so that you can expect more sick and dependent people?
I think the question answers itself.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
Yes, the information about Israel, Dr. John talked about that too.
Too bad you haven't added a link as far as that study is concerned.
But first of all, the number of cases is declining not only in Israel, but worldwide, even in countries where there is no vaccination or no lockdown
So the virus is clearly on the wane, as the most vulnerable people have already been affected.
As always happens with these types of viruses.
I'd rather follow Professor Dr. Theo Schetters, that it is not necessary, even pointless, to inoculate the entire world population.
This virus cannot be eradicated, according to him.
Even if every human on Earth is vaccinated, the coronavirus will continue to circulate in the animal world, among the wild animal population.
Variants will therefore keep popping up, just as is the case with flu.
Will the whole world be put in lockdown over and over again and the entire world population be vaccinated again, each time such a variant appears?
Or is it not better, just as with the flu, to only protect the risk groups and possibly vaccinate them and leave the rest of the healthy population alone?
Respiratory viruses cannot be compared with, for example, measles.
These respiratory viruses mutate too easily.
It is one of the reasons why the pharmaceutical industry has never turned to vaccines for these types of viruses.
Developing a safe vaccine takes years.
By then the virus has mutated several times.
So it would be mopping with the tap open.
But vaccine manufacturers have now been relieved of responsibility by the governments in case things go wrong, and the governments have taken the responsibility. (That's we, the taxpayer).
But is it justified that the government plays Russian roulette with its population?
Of course, the pharmaceutical companies agree to annually vaccinate the entire world population with exemption from responsibility.
How would you react if you were a vaccine manufacturer?
In your previous passage you also talked about data.
Well, data is very useful for drawing conclusions, if the data is RELIABLE.
The doctors in Bakersfield, California, who received constant visits from journalists, held a press conference that also featured a TV station.
They talked about their experiences and also that the government had put pressure on them to list covid as the cause of death on death certificates as much as possible.
Why does the government do such a thing?
What is the importance?
I personally met someone in May/June last year, I don't remember the exact date, who works in a retirement home for the elderly.
I asked him, out of curiosity if they had not had too many problems due to corona.
He replied, "No, we didn't have any infection in our home yet, but every elder who has died since mid-March was given covid as the cause of death on the death certificate."
That is shocking data manipulation.
That's why I have a hard time, with all due respect, when Dr. John is drawing conclusions based on DATA.
Then I grind my teeth a lot.
I don't feel called to get vaccinated, especially because I was already infected with the virus and actually got the REAL stuff.
I (66) contracted it from a friend (48) with whom I had done some odd jobs.
He contracted the virus from his father-in-law (82), who contracted the virus in hospital when he was admitted for several weeks for non-covid related problems.
The man's general health was so weak (not due to corona) that they did not want/dared to operate him for a TURP operation (prostate) and they sent him home with a bladder probe.
At home, about a week later, he was diagnosed with corona, which he had most likely contracted in the hospital, because it was hospital staff who unexpectedly dropped into his home to do the test.
This says enough.
Despite the man being weak and 82, he survived the corona infection, his 48-year-old son-in-law and also I survived the infection.
To date I don't know anyone in my circle of acquaintances who has died of corona.
Recently my brother's daughter and her husband also became infected with corona.
They both had the same flu-like symptoms as I've had and recovered after a few days.
Their two small children did not develop any symptoms.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
Quote: "Do you believe the hospitals are full of coronovirus patients?" (sic).
I have already spoken to several people who work in a hospital.
They all say the same thing: "There are corona patients in our hospital, but the numbers are not too bad.
The media is very good at whipping up and dramatizing.
On the other hand, they are also good at withholding and concealing information.
For example, during the supposedly first corona wave in the spring of 2020, a TV station here in my country showed footage of a mass grave in New York that they had dug over there because they could no longer handle the influx of corona deaths (so to speak).
They showed images of a huge pit and a crane to dig that pit.
However, there were viewers who had a déjà vu.
They had seen those images before.
What turned out?
The images came from a report a few years earlier about homeless people in New York, long before the corona outbreak.
It turned out to be a mass grave in New York, however, not for corona victims, but it was a grave where New York City buries unidentified homeless people.
The TV station later apologized, after the large number of complaints they had received from viewers about these malpractices.
I no longer follow the news media and, incidentally, watch very little TV.
I do listen to a lot of radio, for the music, but when there is a news bulletin, I often cannot ignore it, or I have to switch off the radio.
I can hear it, but I only hear how they spin the news and I take the content with a fairly large pinch of salt.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
For me it is not a discussion, it is my opinion.
You moderated your statement in "work with your government", previously you said "fight your government".
You know, for that word "fight" and the phrase "for your rights and walk peacelfully to the congress to let your voice heard", they wanted to impeach Trump.
Dangerous to use the word "fight" in these crazy times.
Yes I may be talking about things outside of the vaccine, but it's all related.
The lockdown over WHO lies-induced panic would last only a few weeks.
Why do you think we're still dealing with that nonsense a year later?
Because the governments have reached an agreement with the vaccine manufacturers.
The anxiety psychosis had to be kept going.
The vaccine manufacturers were relieved of responsibility and meanwhile the economy was ruined.
"Work with my government?"
As if they listen to an ordinary citizen like me.
Never do I forgive the government for preventing me from practicing my profession a whole year and perhaps longer, NEVER.
A government is expected to serve the population and not to imprison (innocent) people.
I'm not saying you make those dictatorial decisions.
I just said, "You know these are dictatorial decisions?"
But from all your explanations, you seemed like a big supporter of those experimental vaccines and forced vaccination.
You even recommended that I get vaccinated.
So?
For the record, I'll try to make it clear again
I'm not an antivaxer, as the media these days insults people who don't want this experimental vaccine.
I have been vaccinated against smallpox, polio and tetanus, serious illnesses.
Safe vaccines, which have taken years to study their long-term effects.
Now you can spin and explain it as you want, but you cannot study long-term effects in a period of a few months.
As far as traveling is concerned.
After all I've been through in the past year, nothing surprises me anymore.
The government, acting like dictatorial rulers, is capable of anything.
They have now noticed how far they can go with us and apparently they have a taste for it.
A good advice to think about this fear psychosis is to listen to what the Belgian psychology professor Matias Desmet has to say about it.
Well, listen?
It's in Dutch, but English subtitles are available through the video's settings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOLhF9fyjkk&t=2793s
Good luck.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
Well, you don't have to apologize.
Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.
And I respect your opinion and point of view.
Besides, I know the language problem.
My mother tongue is not English either.
So I also have to translate and pay attention to how I formulate my sentences.
It is not always easy
Anyway, the lingua franca on the internet is English.
I have to say that I appreciate Dr. John's explanation when it comes to medical matters, but I have a very hard time with his political views on the strict measures.
He looks at it from a medical point of view, but society must be able to function, or we are doomed.
It's tunnel vision.
If we are going to lock up and punish everyone for every disease that comes up, where are we going to end up?
Life comes with risks.
Countless people die in traffic every year, yet we do not stop traffic.
We accept that risk.
Our ancestors were much more at risk for disease than we are, yet their society continued to run.
Now we have a madness that wants to rule out any risk.
People have gone so mad that they think they can control everything, that they have some kind of divine power.
But that's haughty.
If later, in 10, 20, or 30 years, they start looking back on this whole episode, I'm sure they'll label it as madness.
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@madedjrbatara1000
Quote: "But covid19 is a novel virus meaning almost 100% are not immune."
Total nonsense spread by WHO that put covid19 in Category A along with Ebola.
But nothing turned out to be further from the truth.
The WHO now indicates that for covid19 there is an IFR of 0.23%.
Which is in line with a serious flu.
Yet everyone has ended up in a fear psychosis and tunnel vision, disrupting the whole society and economy, so that the consequences will be many times worse in the coming years than the disease itself.
By the way, I am not worried, I was infected with the virus last May, at the age of 66 and must say that I have had much more serious symptoms from flu in my life, than this time from corona.
The person who infected me has also been ill and has recovered.
But his wife who took care of her corona-infected father and had to stay in quanrantaine with her corona-infected husband in that father's house, woman who also shared the bed with her infected husband, has not been ill at all and has had no symptoms.
My brother's daughter was also infected with the virus along with her husband.
They had pretty much the same symptoms as I have had, but their two children have not been ill at all.
So forget that fairy tale of "novel virus" and "100% 'NOT' immune".
Reality, meanwhile, has blatantly shown that the "truth" is quite different from the media and government propaganda.
If you are still walking around with that thought that was talked to us by the fear mongers, then you are really stuck in your tunnel vision.
I already know several people who have been infected with covid19, including myself.
But to date I don't know anyone in my circle of acquaintances who has died of it.
But, perhaps my circle of acquaintances is very small, that could also be an explanation. LOL.
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