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Sobering that reality shows what a layman like me knew from the beginning when they turned this whole affair into a pandemic.
Developing vaccines against such rapidly mutating viruses is hopeless and this is a science as old as the hills.
It is impossible because these kinds of viruses mutate like crazy.
Science knew this.
Why then was it forced with experimental vaccines that were put together in a few months?
This "policy" was doomed to fail.
A 3rd or 4th booster shot?
As Professor Theo Schetters said, "An extra shot of a vaccine based on the original Wuhan strain will be of no use."
"Even if they gave you 20 injections, the virus has meanwhile mutated hundreds of times and it won't help."
The slogan "The vaccine will be our salvation and will defeat the virus" turned out to be a hollow phrase, say "lie".
Yet people still try to justify the fairy tale with the slogan: "You will get less seriously ill, thanks to the vaccine".
That remains to be seen, as the virus continues to mutate uninterrupted, further and further away from the original Wuhan strain.
Moreover, if one were to develop a vaccine against the most recent mutant, it too would continue to mutate and undermine the effectiveness of the vaccine(s).
Just like with the flu virus, which one they cannot eradicate.
If you are vaccinated for flu in November, the upcoming variant is not yet known.
They therefore inject you with a cocktail of three or four known (recent) variants, in the hope that it will work to some extent.
In some cases (winters) this is disappointing and the protection among the population seems to be very low and only 15%.
As a result, some years, unfortunately, there are still many flu deaths to regret.
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@dgreyz
There is no "hindsight".
All known respiratory viruses, including previous corona viruses, behave in the same way.
They infect a lot of people very quickly at the beginning, because many people are susceptible.
Herd immunity is created by the increase in non-susceptible (immune) people.
In this way the virus loses its breeding ground, so that it can no longer spread (with ease).
In other words, the virus is not getting weak, no, the community is getting stronger.
History teaches us this, one does not even need to think for it.
Yet throughout this corona affair this is (deliberately?) overlooked or concealed.
Until there are scientists who have the courage to stick their necks out and say, "No, but wait a minute ..."
They don't really have to explain anything.
The herd immunity deniers should come up with a plausible explanation as to why it would be different for this current coronavirus.
Because they deny logic.
So there is no "hindsight", because the principle of herd immunity has long been known and accepted by science.
The fact is, that countries now hailed in heaven (like New Zealand) for being able to limit the epidemic with dictatorial draconian measures are terrified because they know (very well) that their populations have not managed to build herd immunity.
The best example of this is Australia, which managed to keep out the Spanish flu virus 100 years ago until 1919, through a strict maritime embargo.
In 1919, the virus finally entered the country, causing an epidemic that killed thousands of people, while in the rest of the world the virus had withered because much of the world's population had become immune.
History can be very educational at times.
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@OceanFrontVilla3
Well, I didn't want to mention it at first, but apparently the governments have forgotten about the 2009 debacle, when they vaccinated against swine flu.
I didn't want to mention narcolepsy, but it has mostly affected toddlers who still had 70 to maybe 80 years of life to come, but whose lives were totally destroyed by this incurable condition so unbearable to live with that many narcolepsy patients commit suicide.
The vaccination campaign in 2009, unnecessary because the epidemic was already on its way back, was stopped and the vaccines were destroyed.
Afterwards, every effort was made to deny the link between the narcolepsy cases and the vaccine.
Still, the Dutch government paid some of them compensation, because the vaccine manufacturer had been given carte blanche and could not be held liable.
The same is happening now.
If things ever go wrong, the vaccine manufacturers will go free and the government will pay for the damage.
For the record, the government is WE, the taxpayer.
No vaccine is without risk, keep that in mind.
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@Raylufc
I had the same symptoms, not after the vaccination, but after the infection with corona in May last year.
Symptoms like a mild flu.
The worst symptom was an inexplicable tiredness.
This resulted in me staying in bed all day, so that the following days my biological clock was completely disrupted, like a jet lag.
I am not young, I was 66 during that infection, now almost 67.
I think a healthy body has little to fear from this virus.
I have never smoked, don't drink alcohol and with age I started to pay more attention to my diet, little sugar, less fat, meat and lots of fresh vegetables and fruit.
Oh, important, I don't take any drugs.
I think a lot of the corona cases that are badly affected are people who are heavily on drugs.
I am still active professionally, but because of all these corona measures in the past year I have only been able to work at 15%, given that my company is subject to severe restrictions.
I still do this at my age, because I like to do it and it gives meaning to my life.
It also keeps me physically and mentally healthy, I think.
But now because of these measures, in my country my company has now come to a standstill, my physical condition is suffering enormously.
I also have a very hard time psychologically.
I feel totally useless and worthless.
The weather is good today, so I go for a walk to maintain my fitness.
But it's just just wandering around aimlessly.
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@margaretarmstrong2445
Quote: "Lack of critical thinking? Did you even read my posts? "
People like this don't listen, Margaret.
They are stuck in the dogma of climate religion.
It's like most religions, they can't be reasoned anymore.
Then why would they listen to you, or read what you write?
You are absolutely right about those wind turbines.
The only part that will be recyclable when they wear out is the metal.
The foundation is made by means of concrete (cement).
The cement industry is responsible for 15% of global CO2 emissions.
What would the green dogmatists think "of that"?
If you know how steel is made, I don't have to make a drawing.
The blades of those turbines are made from raw materials from the petrochemical industry, reinforced with glass fibers and/or carbon fibres, making them virtually impossible to recycle when their lifespan is over.
Those green madmen are indeed going to ensure that the next generations, children, grandchildren, are saddled with a huge ecological problem, by these religious fake green madmen.
Not to mention the batteries that will cause a huge environmental problem if they are produced on a massive scale.
I don't think they listened to Patrick Moore either.
CO2 is not toxic.
On the contrary, it is essential for life on Earth.
Without CO2, we are all doomed.
Do these religious ever wonder how they will build such a wind turbine in 2050 with zero CO2 emissions?
These people should watch the documentary "The planet of humans" by Michael Moore, a true ecologist.
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@Rinus-et6qs
Niet alleen gepolariseerd, en een hoge eigendunk IQ, maar bovendien nog slecht van karakter ook, gezien de verwensingen.
Foei, foei, foei.
En dat wil de schijn hoog houden om empathisch te zijn, nietwaar?
Mocht het je nog niet opgevallen zijn, de samenleving is al ontwricht en daar is de overheid verantwoordelijk voor.
Maar ik moet je ontgoochelen met je verwensingen.
Ik zit door mijn hoge leeftijd weliswaar in de risicogroep, maar heb mijn coronabesmetting, die ik al meer dan een jaar geleden opliep, zonder al te erge symptomen, (van griep in m'n leven al veel zieker geweest), overleefd.
Dus, nee, ik zie het nut van een vaccinatie niet in.
Maar voel je niet al te veilig met je hoog IQ en je vaccinatie, want de ziekenhuizen lopen vol met gevaccineerde covid-patiënten.
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Precies.
Bovendien geven de cijfers van coronapatiënten een vertekend beeld, want de meeste van die patiënten in RSA lagen in het ziekenhuis om andere redenen dan corona, maar werden door het standaard testen "toevallig" ook positief getest, terwijl corona helemaal niet de reden van hun opname was.
Dit gebeurt ook hier, mijn broer lag afgelopen week in het ziekenhuis wegens een niet corona gerelateerd gezondheidsprobleem.
Hij werd standaard getest en bleek volgens de test positief (besmet) te zijn, terwijl hij helemaal geen klachten of symptomen had.
Toch moest hij daardoor naar de corona-afdeling en komt hij in de statistieken wellicht voor als corona-besmette.
Als je denkt dat, zoals men ons in de media voorhoudt, er slechts enkele varianten zijn van dit virus, dan denk je verkeerd.
Het aantal varianten van dit virus is vrijwel niet meer te tellen.
Deze ademhalingsvirussen muteren namelijk als gek.
Dit is door de wetenschap al decennia bekend.
Maar niet alle varianten worden dominant, of beter gezegd zijn even succesvol.
Ik snap dus heel deze heisa over "een nieuwe variant" absoluut niet.
Het werd/wordt opgeklopt door de media om sensationele redenen.
Dit muteren is gewoon de aard van het beestje, net als bij griep overigens, waar vaccins ook niet "levenslang" werken.
Dit is één van de redenen dat vaccins ervoor ontwikkelen eigenlijk futiel is.
Drie prikken in minder dan een jaar tijd, vergeleken met mazelen "één" prik voor de rest van je leven, zegt genoeg, me dunkt.
Dit wisten wetenschappers en bijgevolg regeringsleiders al voor ze met dit hele circus begonnen.
De vraag die je dan eigenlijk moet stellen is: "Waarom hebben ze het dan toch gedaan?"
Als ik deze BNR mensen bezig hoor, dan keert mijn maag.
Ze beschouwen en behandelen ons echt als kleuters.
Een ziekelijke vertoning.
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@chrishaven1489
So according to your reasoning, there was no climate change before 200 years ago?
Strange reasoning.
I know, for example, that due to the effects of the so-called (also so called by scientists) Little Ice Age, the glaciers in the Alps reached their maximum in 1859/60.
Villages threatened to be crushed in the valleys.
The current shrinkage of these glaciers is still a result of this maximum during the last 2000 years in 1859/60.
Studies of these glaciers also show that these glaciers were so small that they were virtually non-existent during the Roman period.
But during the Little Ice Age, dramatic scenes took place in fringe areas where agriculture was just barely possible.
For example in the Alps, where children were so hungry that they started to eat grass.
During the last glacial that ended 11,000 years ago, the temperature on Earth was about 9 ° C. Cooler than it is today and the whole of Great Britain was covered by an ice sheet, like in Greenland.
No traces of human civilization have been found throughout Great Britain during the period of the last glacial period, which lasted 90,000 years.
The last 500,000 years have seen different cycles of glacial and interglacial.
Such a cycle covers an average period of 100,000 years, of which 90% is glacial and only 10% is interglacial.
We are now (fortunately) in such an interglacial and given that the glacial is predominantly the norm (90%), we can consider ourselves lucky that we are in such an interglacial (10%), which is already overdue, if we observe the rhythm of the previous cycles.
During the last glacial, it is estimated that at most 10,000 people lived in all of Europe, who by then had mainly retreated to the south of the continent.
A return to a glacial, given the billions of people now living in the Northern Hemisphere, would be a major catastrophe.
So, yes, climate changes are older than 200 years.
For the last 200 years, we are in a fairly stable period, if you look at history.
So I wouldn't worry too much unless you have political motives with your fear-mongering.
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@chrishaven1489
To start with your last statement, if you want to compare smoking with the situation you are trying to describe, then you show how ridiculous and unfair you are acting.
This refuting story by the climate alarmists that the climate changes from the past would be "regional" phenomena, I know that story.
It's not the first time I've heard that religious stuff used to defend dogma.
There used to be no temperature measurements as we know them today.
But the chronicles from that time speak volumes and also the studies of the "alpine ice" the glaciers are a very good indication.
Our current glaciers are much larger than during Roman times.
They had shrunk so small by then that the Romans do not mention glaciers anywhere in their writings.
So our warm period has to go on for quite some time to get the glaciers to that small recessed level of what you call a "blip".
The phenomenon that you think was so regional occurred over such a large area that during the Little Ice Age the sea around Iceland froze hundreds of kilometers around the island for months, leaving Iceland isolated for months (also regionally, for sure?)
In Alaska, (do you think that belongs to the alpine region too?), tree trunks with their roots still in the ground are now found under the glacial ice, showing that there were forests where the glacial ice is now.
Dating of it also confirms the warmer periods elsewhere on earth.
During the Little Ice Age, harvests were sparse due to the cold, and the first settlers also had a hard time in North America.
Their crops often failed due to very late frosts in the spring, or very early frosts in the fall.
Exceptionally, even in some areas, frost occurred in the middle of summer, ruining the harvest completely.
No, it was not easy for them, but they had a wide nature there in North America where they could still survive by hunting.
Something that ordinary citizens in Europe could not do.
Because in Europe hunting was reserved for the nobility, the commoner was not even allowed to catch a wild rabbit, because that was tantamount to poaching, which was severely punished by the nobility.
What I am referring to here are climatological facts, which are not a secret but general knowledge, especially among climatologists.
You post a lot of slogans here that I have heard propagated by the media for the past thirty years, slogans without any substantiation.
Some of which sound like a broken record.
According to alarmists at the time, the North Pole should now be free of ice, all polar bears dead, New York should be under water and the Maldives would have disappeared.
Slogans are what they are, hollow.
Whether you call them for 30 years or 50 years, they remain hollow slogans.
None of those alarmist slogans have become reality.
It can't, because they were hollow.
My late father often said, "a liar who keeps on lying, eventually begins to believe his own lies.
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geheimschriver
Eén van de eerste beslissingen die hij al heel vroeg nam, was de grenzen sluiten en niemand meer toelaten vanuit China.
Daar werd hij voor bekritiseerd door de Democratische partij en in de door hen gerunde media afgeschilderd als racist.
Deze vroege initiële zet van Trump heeft er echter voor gezorgd dat heel wat besmette mensen in een vroeg stadium buiten de grenzen bleven.
Zo zie je maar wat het nut van grenzen is in zulke situaties.
Deze clown denk heel goed na, veel beter dan de carrièrepolitici, die de verkiezing bijna vier jaar geleden van deze buitenstaander nog steeds niet kunnen verteren hebben.
Trump wou een pakket (crisis)maatregelen (snel)laten goedkeuren door het parlement.
De Democraten profiteerden ervan om in dat pakket maatregelen van alle soorten wetten in te voegen die niets met deze corona crisis te maken hebben.
Zoals voor hun "Green New Deal", subsidies voor zonnepanelen, windenergie en dergelijke toestanden meer.
In de hoop om ze zo met het pakket door de senaat te krijgen, waar de Democraten in de minderheid zitten.
De republikeinen en Trump waren verbijsterd en konden natuurlijk niet akkoord gaan met zulke politieke spelletjes.
Spoed was aan de orde.
Maar deze politieke hypocrisie van de Democraten heeft er wel voor gezorgd dat dit pakket crisismaatregelen zo'n (zeer cruciale) week vertraging opliep.
Trump laat zich goed omringen en adviseren door capabele mensen.
Hij is niet verantwoordelijk voor dit virus.
Hij is ook God niet en probeert in de mate van zijn bevoegdheden te doen wat hij (menselijk) kan.
Dat hij het woord 'hoop' uitspreekt, betekent nog niet dat hij het opgeeft en de boel terug gaat opengooien, zoals hier geïnsinueerd wordt.
Hij neemt tenminste nog het woord hoop in de mond, terwijl de media niets ander doen dan aan angst zaaien en steevast elke nieuwsuitzending beginnen met de teller van het aantal gevallen en doden, alsof het om een puntentelling gaat a la songfestival.
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@alkante2962
Thank you for wishing me the best.
I will need it.
Well, Belgium fared worse than Sweden, despite the heavy lockdown in Belgium.
We are now in Belgium with higher figures in this "so-called" second wave than in Sweden.
In Belgium, as in Sweden, they have opted for very large retirement homes for the elderly.
It would all be more efficient.
I have seen several hospitals disappear here within 25km of my hometown.
Healthcare had to be cheaper and more efficient.
But this policy is now turning sour.
In Norway this policy has not been pursued and it seems there are many more, but smaller retirement homes.
If the lockdowns had any effect beyond destroying the economy, it was slowing down the achievement of group immunity.
In all of these epidemics, I'm not saying that, but history teaches us that, it is always this group immunity that will eventually wipe out the virus.
The statement of some politicians, "together we will beat the virus" is utter nonsense and demagoguery.
It is actually a blow in the face of any duped entrepreneur.
My neighbors are nice people, civil servants, they were allowed to work from home during this time, didn't have to be in traffic jams to and from work, and didn't lose a penny of their wages.
Wonderful, for them it could stay that way forever.
When I talked to them about this whole corona affair, I realized that they absolutely could not empathize with my situation.
Did you know that in my country some of those homeworkers were protesting?
They demanded a "coffee compensation" because they get coffee at work and they now have to pay for it at home.
Moreover "life"?
The average age of people who died "with" covid19 is 80 years.
That happens to be the average life expectancy in Western Europe.
None of my relatives I have known ever reached that age.
I don't want to downplay anything, but putting things in perspective a bit wouldn't be out of place.
The WHO praised the lockdown applied in dictatorial China.
The same WHO now claims that lockdowns are not the best way to contain the virus.
A turn of 180 degrees.
Incidentally, it is not the only 180 degree turn that the WHO has made in recent months.
My regard for politics was not high, but it has now been completely washed away in the sewers.
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Trump sloot de grenzen al eind januari voor iedereen die vanuit China kwam.
Hij werd toen voor deze maatregel door de mainstream media bekritiseerd en verweten voor "racist".
De wereldgezondheidsorganisatie WHO, verklaarde in februari nog dat er niets aan de hand was en dat reisbeperkingen niet nodig waren.
Nancy Pelosi, de voorzitster van de Amerikaanse kamer van volksvertegenwoordigers liep in februari nog door Chinatown in New York met een meute journalisten en riep dat er niets aan de hand was en dat de mensen zich geen zorgen hoefden te maken.
Diezelfde journalisten en linkse mainstream propagandisten verwijten nu Trump dat hij niet vroeg genoeg opgetreden heeft.
Met dit koekje van hun eigen deeg worden deze journalisten (activisten) nu door Trump geconfronteerd.
Hun eigen propaganda wordt hen nu terug in het gezicht gesmakt.
Had Trump de instroom vanuit China in januari niet gestopt, dan zou de toestand in de VS nu nog veel erger geweest zijn.
In China wist men in december al dat het virus overdraagbaar was van mens op mens en de plaatselijke dokters die aan de alarmbel trokken werden opgepakt en zijn van de aardbodem verdwenen.
Zo gaat dat in deze autoritaire regimes.
Maar China heeft het samen met de WHO verdoezeld, tot het virus zich over de hele wereld verspreid had en geen houden meer aan was.
Dat is crimineel, dat is de misdaad.
Enkele anekdotes, Nancy Pelosi loopt niet meer door Chinatown, maar zit in haar huis en durft er niet uit te komen.
Ondertussen staat de "ACHTERLIJKE MAN" op de barricade en doet alles wat hij menselijk kan om de gouverneurs van de staten die met hun handen in het haar zitten te helpen, zowel financieel als logistiek.
Hierbij laat de "ACHTERLIJKE MAN" zich door een schare mensen adviseren en hij gaat zeker niet over één nacht ijs.
Dat hij de geldkraan voor de WHO dichtdraait is maar terecht en de communistisch voorzitter van de WHO Tedros zou zich moet schamen voor zijn crimineel corrupt gedrag en ontslag moeten nemen.
Iets om eens dieper over na te denken, in de stad Wuhan (China) staan laboratoria die zich specifiek met onderzoek van virussen bezig houden.
Goolge het maar eens.
Je kunt je dus afvragen, wat is het meest waarschijnlijke, kwam het virus van een plaatselijke markt in Wuhan, of uit één van die laboratoria?
Wat is het meest waarschijnlijke?
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@mathijsvanabbe2293
Inderdaad, in Portugal swingen de cijfers de pan uit, net als in andere West-Europese landen.
Jammer voor diegenen die Portugal als voorbeeld aanhaalden om "hun" gelijk te halen.
Maar het werkt niet, integendeel het werkt nu averechts.
Gibraltar is weliswaar klein, maar 100% gevaccineerd.
Ze zitten er nu met een uitbraak.
Wat betekent dat 100% van de zieken door corona gevaccineerden zijn.
Dringt het nog niet tot je door?
Nee, dan moet je wel reuze naïef zijn, nietwaar?
Die 95/97 % bescherming die de farmaceut zelf claimde en door niemand gecontesteerd werd en voor "waar" werd aangenomen, heb ik van in den beginne niet geloofd.
Het is als de slager die z'n eigen vlees keurt
Men begon in januari te vaccineren en net als in 2020 begonnen in het voorjaar, door het seizoensefffect de cijfers te dalen.
Euforie, yes, we kunnen nu zeggen, "zie wel hoe efficiënt de vaccins werken.
Bovendien heeft geen enkele van die farmaceuten onderzoek gedaan, in die te korte tijd, wat betreft de overdracht van de ziekte door gevaccineerden.
Al deze vaccins zitten nog in het experimentele stadium fase 3, tot 2023/24 al gelang de fabrikant.
Info te vinden op hun eigen websites.
Lees de code van Nurenberg eens, te vinden op Wikipedia.
Een wijsheid om over na te denken:
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Benjamin Franklin
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The rivers in our regions, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and France, are kept at an artificially high (navigable) level with dams and weirs.
It was already known a few days in advance through meteorological forecasts that large amounts of rain would fall (locally).
I am not saying that one can prevent all problems with it, but proactively (days in advance) opening the weirs and temporarily giving up navigability for greater safety should be the norm.
Now the weirs are only opened when the water rises dramatically, but it cannot drain well because the water level downstream was kept high for navigability.
If the level of the major rivers were to drop very low a few days before the arrival of the rain, you would create an enormous capacity of catchment, which could make all the difference.
Moreover, people take the risk of living and building close to rivers, in the flood plains of these rivers.
Sooner or later this will end badly.
Does the flood come once in 150 years, or once in 500 years.
She will come.
It is not a question of whether the flood will come, but when it will come.
Nature is nature and man can only guard against it by using common sense.
Also, due to the increased population and construction (house construction) and asphalt roads of the last 100 years, the rapid drainage (from roofs and roads) has increased enormously.
Extreme weather is of all times.
Climate scientists know this all too well.
But they predicted "extreme" weather in their models, knowing full well that they could use this completely natural phenomenon for their future propaganda, with the tagline, "See, we were right."
Politicians who now propagate this nonsense in the media for their own political gain should be ashamed of themselves.
A slap in the face to all victims.
We are dealing with a western circulation here in Western Europe.
Usually, rain fronts move smoothly from west to east.
But very occasionally a depression continues to falter and spin around on the spot and the rain lingers over the same region for a long time.
Due to the rotation of the depression in place, the backbend occlusion moves from the east over certain areas, especially the north and west sides of the depression.
The rain therefore seems to come from the east, instead of the west, but there is little progression of that occlusion.
There is therefore (in our regions) also a (very old) proverb from the folk wisdom, which reads: "Rain from the east is 24 to 48 hours without comfort".
This folk wisdom is much older than the climate nonsense they've been trying to brainwash us with for the last 30 years.
I heard in the media that the record high water level of the river Meuse was measured in the year 1926 in the Netherlands.
At that time only a quarter of the current number of people lived on the earth.
There were fewer buildings then and there were fewer roads, ergo less rapid drainage and yet, that high level.
So, pretending that something like this has never happened before is pure BS.
Only now more people are affected, because more and more people are living in potential disaster areas (flood areas).
This is where common sense, especially from governments, has failed.
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@robynhickey581
By the way, temperatures of 30 degrees Celsius and more above the Arctic Circle in, for example, Lapland and Russia are not at all uncommon and no exception.
Not now and not before.
The sun shines there 24/24 hours during the summer months of June/July.
In addition, Vacouver, British Columbia, for example, is not above the Arctic Circle at all.
According to my information, the city is at a latitude of 49° 15' north.
This is even further south than London, Antwerp and Berlin.
Still very far from the Arctic Circle.
But as we are used to from the media, propaganda has little to do with truth, a trick that the Nazis already knew and used.
So nothing new.
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@mrmaskerville
My recommendation?
I don't recommend anything.
I don't talk people into anxiety psychosis.
Why is the entire population locked up in quarantine?
This is not normal.
You realize that, I hope?
It is normal for sick people to be isolated and not the healthy ones.
When I get the flu, I don't even go to the doctor because I know he can't do much more than prescribe an antipyretic.
Then the question is whether it is advisable to suppress the fever, if it does not get too high.
No, if I get flu symptoms I just stay indoors.
The fact that people die, usually with a life-threatening condition, also often happens with the flu or even a banal cold can kill an old and / or unhealthy person.
Destroying an entire society and economy for this is criminal.
Because despite the destruction of the economy, our savvy governments have been unable to do anything about the number of victims.
In Peru, where the strictest lockdown was introduced and enforced with a heavy hand, manu militari, the figures are downright bad, while in Russia, where virtually no measures apply, the figures are falling.
It does not get through to the hydrocephalus minds of these incompetent politicians that all they have done is to disrupt the economy.
For a disease whipped up by the WHO with the lie that 3 to 4% of all infected people would die.
While the WHO figures now show that the IFR is only 0.23%.
Which roughly corresponds to a severe flu.
This may be based on manipulated data, because someone who works in a care center for the elderly, said to me, after I asked if they had not had too many problems with corona, he said, "No, we had no contamination in our retirement home, but every elder who died since mid-March was given corona as the cause of death on his death certificate. "
Shocking, isn't it?
Maybe you should listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOLhF9fyjkk&t=2274s&ab_channel=DeNieuweWereld
It is with English subtitles.
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@333vang4
- Not only do cold symptoms stay away, but also my bowel function works much better now, no more constipation.
This is not insignificant, since poor digestion can be the cause of many ailments and can also affect other organs, liver, kidneys, etc.
I feel really good and the only thing I regret is that I didn't start sooner.
Because I used to suffer from long-lasting colds, especially in winter.
I don't take vitamin C because I eat enough fresh fruit and vegetables.
I may have been infected a few times during all that time, but if there are no symptoms, it goes unnoticed, doesn't it? -
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@MegaasAlexandros
A mask does not protect against a virus, period.
Anyone who has worn such a thing before knows that you have to breathe much deeper to compensate for the lack of oxygen.
Moreover, after a few minutes, the "obsolete" mask will already be infected with bacteria and fungi, which thrive in that moist environment.
By inhaling deeper each time, to compensate for oxygen deficiency, the airflow goes even deeper into your lungs than normal and you create a very unhealthy situation for yourself.
But you do not protect yourself against a virus.
The virus is several times smaller than a bacteria and cannot be seen with an ordinary microscope.
An electron microscope is required and to date it has not been possible to isolate and photograph the covid19 virus.
The fact that people are obliged to wear these masks in some countries is actually criminal manipulation of the population.
By the way, that whole scare tactic by the governments, aided by the mainstream media, is outright manipulation first class.
Even the largest docile sheep must recognize that, right?
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@irishcanuck9489
Quote: "they (scientists, epidemiologists, virologists) knew it would mutate therefore there was from the beginning, uncertainty about long term efficacy...."
You mean it was/is actually a large scale experiment?
I agree, given that the so-called vaccines, depending on the manufacturer, are still in phase 3 of the experimental stage until 2023/24.
According to the Nuremberg Code, subjecting people to a medical experiment without their consent and without informing them that they are being subjected to an experiment is not allowed, say forbidden.
Nevertheless, the experiment failed.
3 jabs in less than a year, you can't call that a vaccine by the best of will.
By comparison, for measles you get one jab and you are immune for the rest of your life.
Yet the experiment continues and the masses still believe the doctrine they were brainwashed with with the help of media propaganda.
The wet dream of these pharmaceutical companies is becoming reality, making a lot of money from an almost endless experiment, without being held responsible in any possible way.
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@cgjoe64
I fully understand your frustration.
Downplayed is the correct word.
But why is it downplayed?
An analyst in the Netherlands, named Maurice de Hond, came to the same conclusion.
It surprised him that so many people suddenly became infected during the carnival, which is celebrated exuberantly in the south of the Netherlands (February/March).
The contamination in the ski resort Ischgl in Austria also attracted his attention.
He analyzed these events and found that the infections did not occur outside on the street or on the ski slopes, but during the after parties and apres-ski parties in closed halls, where many people gathered, many of whom (massively) became infected by inhale the contaminated air for hours.
Air that may have been contaminated by only one or a few people.
But in this poorly ventilated space, hundreds of people could be infected through the air.
As an analyst without a medical background, he contacted various epidemiologists, also abroad, who confirmed his analysis that it is transmissible by aerosols.
Maurice de Hond ran against a wall of indifference and reluctance at the government in the Netherlands and the Dutch RIVM still calls aerosol contamination "negligible".
You would think that if you were in a crisis, you would listen to any good advice that is given to you.
Not that you should just accept that good advice without hesitation, but at least you should look at it and study it.
But they (the government) did not do that.
Marice de Hond is also very frustrated, because he realizes how much suffering could have been avoided.
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Face masks are of no use, the Dutch RIVM, which advises the government, openly admits this.
Nevertheless, the Dutch government obliges the wearing of a mask (on pain of a heavy fine) in certain cities and not only indoors, but also on the street.
The hypocresia and the way we are treated is poignant and devastating to our economy, prosperity, well-being and our institutions, including our health care system.
The lockdowns will have serious and long-lasting consequences for every pillar of our society for which current politicians are responsible, but they will not pay for the damage.
No, the population will have to do that.
Any sane thinking person with a logical mind wonders what agenda is behind this.
Or am I the only one that wonders?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LIlZ67iKug&ab_channel=TonyHeller
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The current economic problems were not created by the citizens, but by the governments and international bodies, such as the UN, WHO, IPCC, etc.
The citizens are the victims of it.
These WEF guys flying private jets strive for a world in which countries and states have less and less sovereignty and autonomy.
A neo-feudal tecnocratic anti-democratic world (system) in which everything is determined centrally.
I increasingly shriek that the current economic chaos has been deliberately created to disrupt the current world order so that "they" can carry out their nefarious plans.
Since "they" already have the majority of the media on their side, we have to be wary.
That this man gets a podium at CNN is emblematic.
Watch out for their sweet talk.
The question we need to ask ourselves is, "should these folks be shaping our future?"
Or is it up to the people (citizens) to determine policy through democratic means and not from above?
Things don't look rosy for generations to come if these people seize power.
Unfortunately, a lot of our politicians have a hidden agenda and listen to these WEF folks.
Like for example Trudeau, Macron, Biden and many others.
Who wants to live in an open air prison where everything you do is controlled?
Every movement, movement, expenditure, how much you eat, what you eat, the CO2 you emit, etc.
Up to how many children you are allowed to father?
Farfetched?
In China, many of these things are already in place due to technocracy.
Do not forget that the lockdowns that were applied in democracies (often against the constitution) after the Chinese example, after the WHO praised China for its handling of the (so-called) corona pandemic.
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Infinite Plain
Well, USA?
Let's see what happens when China loving Biden becomes President.
And, by the way, I think that my Dutch neighbor did not mean the politicians, but the inhabitants of our European countries, who do not always agree with their own China-loving politicians.
Why do you think I watch and listen to Sky News Australia here?
Because I am tired of our own (European) (globalist) propagandist media.
Europe (politicians), like Trump, should take a much tougher stance on China.
The problem is that in Australia, just like here in Europe, we have a political elite that for years was much too soft for dictatorial undemocratic China.
The blackmail of this dictatorial country, the hijacking of Australian coal ships in Chinese ports and absurd import duties on Australian wine, should open the eyes of these corrupt politicians, also in Europe.
This will not happen because the political elite is corrupt and believes in the fairytale of globalism, in which they see China as an example of what "their" new world order should look like.
Frightening.
Met vriendelijke groet uit België aan mijn Nederlandse buur,
Truus Jenskens.
Ik deel jouw mening.
Onze regeringsleiders zouden wat meer solidariteit mogen tonen met Australië.
Greetings from Belgium.
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I respect you Dr. John Campbell as long as you talk about medical issues, which is your field of course.
I'm also following your advice on vitamin D, and not just because you say it, but because all science now clearly points in the direction of how important it is to the proper functioning of our bodies and immune systems.
I find it very mean of you to call people concerned about the vaccine "anti-vaxxers."
I am not an anti-vaxxer at all, I am 67 years old and have been vaccinated against smallpox, polio and tetanus.
Not for measles, because when I was a kid we just got those teething problems and we weren't vaccinated for them.
Not an anti-vaxxer, but to be fair, these vaccines have only received experimental approval and beyond their immediate adverse reactions, the long-term effects could not possibly be tested in the space of a few months.
In my country there are many GPs who say they will not get vaccinated.
They are of course well aware that the mRNA vaccine is experimental and is being used on a large scale for the first time in humans.
I also do not support your enthusiasm for the "political" decisions to introduce stricter restrictions (lockdown, curfew, etc).
A few days ago you were surprised that the corona numbers in Russia fell, while there are almost no restrictions.
You also demonized Peru for the bad results.
This while Peru is one of the countries where very strict corona restrictions apply, which were imposed with a heavy hand, manu militari.
Do you still not realize that you have to ask yourself serious questions about these strict restrictions on liberty and human rights?
Then there's the bullshit of downplaying the adverse vaccination reactions.
They were due to "underlying diseases in many of those elderly".
It is strange that this same narrative is not used for the same elderly people with underlying diseases when they become infected with the corona virus.
How do you call something like this in English: "a double standard"?
Moreover, there are not only elderly people who had adverse reactions after vaccination.
The pdf file below from VAERS also demonstrates this:
https://mega.nz/file/WwIVSAjA#C7zHYRXPwxW1Lr555ypRaLuUfRUeLatVs7aF5FgO2Co
The document is several days old and the list continues to grow.
You can see that completely healthy people, who are not even in the risk group in terms of corona, nevertheless suffered serious, sometimes fatal or permanent injuries, after the vaccination.
The second injection in particular sometimes leads to violent reactions.
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@mirvids5036
Well, regarding (sometimes) negative reactions, although people often see from my post/reaction that I am Belgian, (because the post said "My two cents from Belgium") I got the following reaction a week ago: "As an English lady, one of the last few remaining, I find such spelling aberrations most disappointing."
This happened because I used the word "color" in my post instead of "colour".
You'd expect a little bit of consideration, especially if this woman calls herself a "lady," right?
Well, I don't let it discourage me.
Did you know that there are two variants for the word "yesterday" in Dutch, namely: "gister" and "gisteren"?
The first form is regularly used in the north of the Netherlands, the second form more in the south of the language area, including Flanders.
Should it bother me if I see one of the two variants popping up, especially if it comes from a non-Dutch speaker who makes an effort?
No, of course not, and even if it comes from a Dutch speaker, it doesn't bother me at all.
The Dutch often use a different sentence structure and word order than the Flemish.
The differences are due to the fact that both regions were separated from each other for centuries and that the Netherlands has been independent for much longer than Belgium.
Belgium became independent in 1830 and French then became the official language, although Flemings were the majority in the country.
Incomprehensible?
Yes, still incomprehensible to me even now.
You say that languages fascinate you.
One of the languages closest to English is Dutch (and also Frisian).
Especially if you compare Dutch to older English before the Normandish, French influence.
This article in Wikipedia might be of interest: 'History of the Dutch language". (on wikipedia)
In the Dutch version the article on Wikipedia is of course much more elaborate, but the English version also provides an insight into the origin and evolution towards modern Dutch.
Have fun.
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Zou eigenlijk niet slecht zijn, het zou de groepsimmuniteit ten goede komen.
Iets wat nu door die lockdown tegengewerkt wordt.
Bovendien is er voor corona-virussen, die al langer bekend zijn, nooit naar een vaccin gezocht, volgens een Vlaamse viroloog en is het onderzoek naar een vaccin nooit aangemoedigd en werden er nooit fondsen voor uitgetrokken en zou het daardoor wel eens lang kunnen duren eer er een vaccin komt.
De symptomen van corona zijn veel lichter dan die van griep en wordt in kringen van virologen eerder gezien als banale verkoudheden.
Vandaar dat de animo voor het zoeken naar een vaccin gering is/was.
Let wel, ouderen en risicogroepen met bepaalde aandoeningen lopen ook de kans op complicaties bij een banale verkoudheid of corona besmetting.
Dit is ook het geval met dit corona-virus.
90 tot 95 % van de besmette mensen vertoont lichte of soms zelfs helemaal geen symptomen.
De toplaag krijgt wel complicaties en van die toplaag is er weer een toplaag die in het ziekenhuis belandt, waarvan dan weer een toplaag naar de intensive moet en van die laag overlijdt dan een toplaag.
Wat uiteindelijk neerkomt op een overlijden van minder dan 1% van alle besmette mensen.
Het gros daarvan zit dan nog boven de 70+ en zeker 80+.
Met ander woorden, het overgrote deel van de bevolking loopt nauwelijks risico, zeker de gezonde mensen niet.
De griepepidemie van 2017/18 heeft tot nu toe meer slachtoffers gemaakt dan dit virus, ondanks dat een deel van de bevolking gevaccineerd was tegen griep.
Toch was er in 2017 geen heisa en geen lockdown.
Vreemd, nietwaar?
De griepepidemie die zo'n 100 jaar geleden heerste velde niet alleen ouderen en zwakken, maar iedereen, kinderen, jongeren, kortom, iedereen.
De reportage over deze griep werd op YouTube gepost in 2018, voor deze corona uitbraak.
Ik ga geen link posten, want dan loop ik kans dat mijn post onzichtbaar gemaakt wordt, maar copy/paste gewoon de volgende tekst in het zoekvenster van YouTube en je komt er ook.
"1918 Spanish Flu historical documentary | Swine Flu Pandemic | Deadly plague of 1918"
Bedenk dat de bevolking op aarde toen slechts een vierde was van wat ze nu is, 1,8 miljard tegen zo'n 7,7 miljard nu.
Om die cijfers dus in de huidige context te plaatsen moet je ze eigenlijk maal vier vermenigvuldigen.
Er werd toen nog niet per vliegtuig gereisd, als er al gereisd werd.
Toch werd elke uithoek van de wereld besmet.
Volgens Wikipedia naar (onder)schatting 50 miljoen mensen stierven erdoor, op slechts een bevolking van 1,8 miljard.
En landen die met een maritiem embargo (Australiê) er aanvankelijk aan wisten te ontsnappen, vielen als laatste in 1919 toch nog voor de bijl, toen de rest van de wereld al bijna helemaal immuun geworden was.
Er was dus geen ontsnappen aan, net als deze lockdown er ons niet zal doen aan ontsnappen.
Dus, nee, je mag het niet met griep vergelijken.
Het enige vergelijk is dat het beide virussen zijn.
Dit corona-virus is een peulschil met wat er toen gebeurde.
Geen wonder dat men voor griep wel naarstig naar een vaccin op zoek ging en met reden.
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98% van de bevolking heeft niets te vrezen van dit virus.
De overige 2% die eventueel complicaties kan krijgen, zijn eigenlijk mensen die al ziek zijn, wat zeg ik, "die al een ernstige aandoening hebben/hadden".
Deze mensen zouden ook problemen kunnen krijgen bij griep of verkoudheid.
Deze groep van 2% mensen had men in bescherming moeten nemen.
Maar dat heeft men niet gedaan.
Schande.
Niks ebola of wat dan ook.
Toch zijn er mensen, (schapen), die in deze nonsens blijven geloven.
De propaganda lijkt heel effectief te zijn, dankzij de medewerking van de mainstream media, die voor de gelegenheid van de overheid financiële steun, (zogenaamde coronasteun-maatregelen), kreeg om de overheidspropaganda kritiekloos te verspreiden (spuien).
Dat de zorg overbelast kan raken is niet de schuld van het virus, maar van de overheid die de zorg kapot-bezuinigd heeft.
Nu is er geen marge (noodzakelijke overcapaciteit) meer in geval van ramp of epidemie.
Heel dat opgezet spel is een regelrechte schande en aanfluiting van onze burgerrechten.
Sorry, maar ik kon het niet laten om mijn gal te spuwen.
P.S: Dit virus is op geen enkele manier te stoppen.
Het zal blijven rondwaren tot de groepsimmuniteit onder de bevolking hoog genoeg is.
Zo gaat het met al dat soort virussen.
Als deze maatregelen al enig effect zouden hebben, dan is het dat ze dit proces vertragen, waardoor het langer duurt eer we het einde van de tunnel bereiken.
Toch jammer dat we deze wetenschap in de media niet te horen krijgen.
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otowise
There are scientists who investigate the climate.
Virtually nothing is known about the causes of climate change in the history of the earth.
It is all one big mystery how the climate on earth has undergone such huge fluctuations.
They still know so little.
But before you can start making statements about the future, you first have to know what happened in the past.
If you cannot unravel these mechanisms from the past, you cannot possibly say anything about the future, because you do not know the mechanisms.
The actual scientific researchers who get their hands dirty in the field are not paid by the IPCC.
They also do not get the platform on the propagandistic mainstream media, because they are not interested in science.
This study illustrates the climate on the basis of studies of the glaciers in the Alps.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/a2a9/be884a7ba59c14c3d317c4edbc552e37a571.pdf
The shrinking and expansion of the glaciers in the past 3500 years shows how much the climate has fluctuated.
They reached their greatest expansion in 1859/60, the end of the cool period that is also referred to in scientific circles, "the Little Ice Age."
The glaciers then penetrated deep into the valleys, where they destroyed buildings and farmland.
But during the warm Roman climate optimum and the warm medieval climate optimum, the glaciers in the Alps were so small that they were virtually non-existent.
It is also known from chronicles that during the Little Ice Age, the Icelandic ports were often blocked by sea ice during the winter months.
At the time, the fishermen could not force their way with their wooden boats like they could now with powerful ice-breakers.
History also tells us that the warmer periods, which are called 'optimum', were usually prosperous periods and that the Little Ice Age brought misery, failing harvests, hunger and epidemics to the European population, but also to the settlers and indigenous people of North -America.
In 1800, life expectancy in Western Europe was 34 years.
In 1950, life expectancy in Western Europe was less than 70 years.
In 2015, life expectancy in Western Europe was around 82 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#/media/File:Life_expectancy_in_1800,_1950,_and_2015.png
Do I have to be scared by these political activists?
I don't think so.
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@glancegha1733
English isn't my native language, but shouldn't it be, "we live in a different world"?
But that aside.
I have never claimed that Disney does not contribute to Florida's economy.
That is what every economy does, whether it is small or large.
The point is, if Disney gets a special (tax-free) statute, it will inevitably come at the expense of someone else.
I'm also not saying that I shouldn't have my own opinion, but as a company I'm not going to brag about it, my company is too dear to me for that.
That would be idiotic.
Disney should have been more neutral, especially with the special privileges they have and the polarized situation that now prevails politically in the US.
By the way, don't be blinded by the size of a country, according to what I heard recently, Russia's GDP is only as big as Italy's.
And although many opportunistic immigrants come here to benefit from our welfare state, many more than 80,000 people work in Belgium.
So, your claim that "Disney is the equivalent of 5 Belgiums" is totally absurd.
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@leapingjoseph8462
I posted this earlier, but apparently all posts are not visible.
I try again:
I take 10,000 IU of vitamin D3 daily and 5,000 IU in the summer.
Vitamin K2mk7 200 µg daily
Zinc 20 mg daily
Vitamin B12 1,000 µg daily, because older people like me absorb less of it from food.
I also take magnesium regularly.
Not only do cold symptoms stay away, but also my bowel function works much better now, no more constipation.
This is not insignificant, since poor digestion can be the cause of many ailments and can also affect other organs, liver, kidneys, etc.
I feel really good and the only thing I regret is that I didn't start sooner.
Because I used to suffer from long-lasting colds, especially in winter.
I don't take vitamin C because I eat enough fresh fruit and vegetables.
I may have been infected a few times during all that time, but if there are no symptoms, it goes unnoticed, doesn't it?
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@kj-zi9fb
Indeed, analysts have studied that.
Due to the (very) weak flu season, many vulnerable, weaker elderly people probably survived, who then became ill a few months later, when covid19 showed up, and developed complications on top of their already life-threatening conditions.
There will be multiple reasons that one country had more cases and deaths than another.
The fact is that Belgium has fared much worse than Sweden in per capita cases.
Despite the fact that Belgium applied a heavy lockdown, which was actually never completely lifted.
Lockdown that failed to stop the epidemic, delayed herd immunity, devastated the country's economy and resulted in numerous financial and family dramas and bankruptcies.
The Belgian government, like many European governments, has still not got the picture
They haven't learned anything yet, because they just keep pushing the madness.
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@gandiganda5
Well, I can tell you this from personal experience:
At the end of May 2020, I met someone who works in a nursing home for the elderly.
Curious as I am, I asked him if they had not had too many problems in their retirement home due to corona?
He said to me:
"We have not had any infection in our nursing home yet, but every elderly person who has died since mid-March was given covid19 as the cause of death on the death certificate."
I was perplexed by this shocking data manipulation, say fraud.
From the doctors in Bakersfield, California, we have known since their press conference in April 2020 that these doctors were also pressured by the government to list covid19 as the cause of death on death certificates as much as possible.
Rest assured, if the data is provided by the government, it is dubious.
If this data has been manipulated, then this data is completely useless for making analyzes and drawing conclusions from it.
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@phlm9038 No, I don't mean that at all.
It would be just as absurd to claim that the English would now speak German thanks to the Anglo-Saxons.
There are those who try to compare contemporary English with contemporary German.
That is allowed, but it is not the reality of "then".
For the Anglo-Saxons who "then" arrived in England did not speak the standardized contemporary German (language) at all.
It is therefore no longer entirely comparable, also given the centuries that have passed.
At some point in history, languages were standardized.
Also German, where High German had an important influence.
Low German in the north deviated from that standard German, but since standard German was/is the standard for all of Germany, the colloquial language in all of Germany has gradually become Standard German after centuries.
Just as in France, standardized French became the standard throughout France after centuries.
Even in regions where people did not speak French, such as in French Flanders (the region of Dunkirk).
The Germanic dialects along the North Sea coast, the present Netherlands and Flanders, despite all their different dialects, had much in common in construction and sentence structure that differed quite a bit. from standard German.
Here too, a standardization was required.
The first initiatives for this came from Flanders.
But the Netherlands became independent, while Flanders remained occupied by the Spaniards, Austrians, French, etc.
In the Netherlands, this standardization was able to continue to develop.
Belgium only became independent in 1830, but French was (then) the (only) official language.
Although more than 60% (Flanders) did not speak this language.
Anyway, that is (old) politics that also has/had its influence on language.
Just look at the example of Ireland.
If you are interested, search Wikipedia "History of the Dutch language".
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@cgjoe64
Did you know that the minister of public health in the Netherlands, Hugo de Jonge, forbade GPs to prescribe HCQ?
He called it quackery and commissioned studies on people in intensive care who received harmful high doses of HCQ.
Completely against the practice of the general practitioners, who administered HCQ in a low (safe) dose immediately after the first symptoms, so right after the start of the infection, in order to prevent hospitalization.
Fortunately, studies from abroad are now pouring in that confirm the effectiveness of HCQ in primary care, before hospitalization.
This minister literally has blood on his hands, but appears almost daily with his head on TV, without shame talking about social distancing, mouth masks and other restrictions and vaccines.
There is probably too little profit to be made from HCQ.
As you say, it comes down to money
But you should not think that way, because then you will be dismissed as a conspiracy thinker.
At least it still has the word "think" in it.
What we cannot say about their political narrative.
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@richardw2646
Quote; "but the rest of the world knows the truth'".
You mean your truth?
The figures I gave are the WHO figures.
You juggle with figures ranging from 0.5 to 1%?
An increase from 0.5 to 1% is an increase of 100%.
So you do use a very stretchy elastic.
I don't know where you get your data, but I have no desire whatsoever to get you out of your fear hypnosis.
So it doesn't matter what I think or you think, does it?
I just find it strange that there are people who just take a risk without thinking, without realizing it.
Well, that is not really strange, because the media propaganda does a good job of promoting (free) advertising for the vaccine manufacturers.
When it comes to a disease such as smallpox, tetanus or polio, a vaccine can be justified.
Even if these vaccines have side effects.
But in this case it is indefensible.
The mutational properties of these viruses is the main reason why vaccine manufacturers never attempted to develop a vaccine for them.
Because the development of a valid vaccine takes about 5 to 20 years to study its long-term effects.
Something that has not happened here and that can't be done with these mutating viruses.
Hence the 2009 debacle with the swine flu vaccine.
The fact that they are now (again) trying to force this is a complete mystery to me.
They clearly haven't learned anything from it.
But when it all goes wrong, the true responsibles will escape their responsibility, the victims who have walked into it with their eyes closed will bear the consequences.
In any case, I am not walking into it.
By no means.
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The importance of vitamin D is indeed greatly underestimated.
It is being silenced in the media.
When they do talk about it, it is laughed at and even dismissed as quackery.
Same with Ivermectin, by the way.
Even a lot of doctors don't even realize the usefulness of vitamin D.
They prefer to prescribe drugs.
I take 100 µg (4000 IU) per day and I feel very good and healthy.
Unlike a vaccine, vitamin D offers many additional health benefits that a vaccine, (with side effects), cannot possibly achieve.
You can clearly see from the propaganda in the media that it has nothing to do with public health anymore, but the media is simply complicit in the agenda that was agreed at the Euro/American level with the vaccine manufacturers.
The constant hammering in the media on vaccines and vaccination speaks volumes.
Not to mention how they try to justify the absurd corona measures (lockdowns and the like) in the media.
While it is now gradually becoming clear that vaccinated people can also become infected, the fairy tale is that they would become less ill.
But vaccinated people do receive a free pass to infect everyone freely, given that their virus load, when infected, is the same as unvaccinated.
The logic is completely lost.
Fortunately, more and more people are starting to see it.
Better late than never? (question mark)
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@7YBzzz4nbyte
Thanks, for the Swedish link.
I see remarkably few deaths in Sweden now, in a period (from September) that the number of diseases and deaths traditionally increases annually as winter approaches.
But I see a huge discrepancy between the number of deaths/cases of the "real" epidemic in the spring, compared to what we see now.
That is why this increase is often called a "casedemic" by many people.
Anyway, I think the virus had its best time.
It is clear that group immunity among the population increases with each infection, as a result of which the virus loses its breeding ground.
Apart from seasonal effects (summer), the virus will continue until that point is reached.
One can try to influence it by all kinds of tricks, for example by lockdowns and the like, but that is all only of a temporary nature and can not stop the virus.
Many countries are now catching up with the virus, as they were able to reduce it sharply in April/May with strict lockdowns and were subsequently spared by the summer period.
In Sweden, there was a much slower decline in May, making it look wider, as is usually the case with a flu epidemic.
Belgium and England applied a lockdown this week, while the number of cases was actually leveling off.
This could not possibly be due to that lockdown.
The government-paid virologists shouted for a lockdown and the government went to its knees.
But the only effect that such a lockdown has is that they will stretch the case and the epidemic will last longer.
Correction, not "the only effect".
Another effect is that this "second" lockdown will be even more dramatic for the economy than the first lockdown.
Because many small and medium-sized businesses are already on their knees, making this a final blow to many of them.
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Beginnen ze nu echt wakker te worden?
In elk geval, ze zijn nog steeds krampachtig aan het worstelen.
Begrijpelijk, gezien de indoctrinatie door de media van het afgelopen anderhalf, bijna twee, jaar.
Er is geen debat, omdat de agenda die de overheid uitvoert hogerop in Europa bepaald wordt, verder nog, door globalisten.
Dan komen natuurlijk de namen van het WEF in het plaatje.
Met slogans als "Build back better", slogan die tegenwoordig al uit de mond van elke westerse leider te horen was.
Tenzij je doof of blind bent en niet verder kunt kijken dan je neus lang is, zie je dat natuurlijk niet.
Ondertussen blijft de overheid trouw aan deze Europees-globalistische agenda en houden ze het been stijf.
Waarbij ze grondrechten met voeten treden en maffiapraktijken toepassen op de eigen bevolking, door middel van chantage en segregatie.
De waanzin lijkt niet op te houden, maar glijdt integendeel steeds verder af, onder het "mom" van de volksgezondheid.
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Pfizer was not asked to investigate whether the "vaccine" would prevent the spread.
This was not necessary for the emergency approval (with a waiver of responsibility).
They only had to demonstrate through self-conducted (non-independent) studies whether at least 50% of the vaccinated people do not get sick from corona.
They (Pfizer) also undermined further research, because shortly after the vaccine received approval and vaccination began, they also started vaccinating the placebo group.
This placebo group should have remained unvaccinated in order to evaluate further research in the longer term.
In other words, the placebo group was (consciously or unconsciously?) destroyed.
In this way, adverse side effects could no longer be compared with the (destroyed) placebo group.
Meanwhile, politicians and media have started to trumpet that you should get vaccinated, not only to protect yourself, but above all to protect others.
While there was no research that could support this.
People who, for whatever reason, did not get vaccinated were excluded from social life, demonized, labeled as antisocial and selfish.
In short, the worst government and media polarization I've seen in my life.
It is an outright scandal.
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Nelleke,
Aan de foto te oordelen op je account ben je niet meer van de jongsten.
Ik ben zelf 66 en als er iets goeds is aan heel deze corona heisa, dan is het dat ik me meer bewust geworden ben van het nut van vitamine D op onze gezondheid.
Men wist vroeger reeds dat rachitis bij kinderen te verhelpen was door het toedienen van levertraan.
Als men het niveau van vitamine D maar hoog genoeg bracht dat het rachitis voorkwam, dan was het wel oké, dacht men.
Maar vooral de laatste decennia is de medische wetenschap tot inzicht gekomen dat de invloed van vitamine D veel breder is dan dat.
Het komt erop neer dat vitamine D een onmisbaar hormoon is voor een goede werking van ons metabolisme en deze inzichten nemen nog steeds toe.
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamine_D
Wat is de juiste dosis en hoeveelheid die ons bloed zou mogen (moeten) bevatten?
Studies tonen aan dat je al boven de 30.000 iu (per dag) moet gaan om enige negatieve effecten te constateren.
Ja, maar wat is dan de in het bloed vastgestelde ideale hoeveelheid?
Moeilijk te zeggen, want vitamine D insufficiëntie schijnt zowat overal in de wereld op te treden, maar vooral bij ons tijdens de wintermaanden.
Maar ook in zonnige landen komt het voor.
Dit komt deels omdat daar in die zonnige streken de mensen de zon vaak gaan mijden en de wetenschap bovendien via studies heeft vastgesteld dat mensen met een donkere huidskleur minder uvb-straling opnemen.
Hun donkere huid filtert het uvb, waardoor ze minder vitamine D aanmaken.
Studies in de VS toonden aan dat vitamine D insufficiëntie bij zwarte en gekleurde mensen veel groter was dan bij blanke mensen.
De mensen in de onderstaande link gaan ervan uit dat de Masai, een volk in centraal Afrika, die heel het jaar rond een voldoende hoeveelheid zonlicht krijgen, een goede maatstaf is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD_96ybTMNE&ab_channel=IvorCummins
In dit gesprek zitten enkel zeer ervaren artsen die zich al jaren bezig houden met bestuderen van vitamine D.
Wat schokkend is dat men in bepaalde ziekenhuizen wel vitamine D supplementen geeft aan verplegend personeel om besmettingen te voorkomen, wat effectief ook helpt, maar dat men patiënten er niet mee behandelt.
Calcitriol is de werkzame stof die aangemaakt wordt nadat vitamine D een proces doorloopt via de lever en de nieren.
Het kan dus soms een week of langer duren eer die stof werkelijk in het lichaam verhoogt na de inname van extra vitamine D.
Behandeling in een Spaans ziekenhuis van covid-19 patiënten met calcitriol, vergeleken met een controlegroep die de calcitriol niet kreeg, leverde verbluffende resultaten op.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H2c0Zm6PFw&t=8s&ab_channel=Dr.JohnCampbell
Vitamine D versterkt het immuunsysteem en zorgt er ook voor dat het niet in een overreactie treedt, zoals gebeurt bij mensen die in de intensieve zorg belanden.
Een niveau van 40 ng/mL in het bloed, wordt door deze mensen als voldoende beschouwd.
Heel wat hoger dan veel artsen, (op grond van oude inzichten) voldoende vinden, maar absoluut veilig.
Omdat uit studies blijkt dat vooral bij ouderen, door verschillende oorzaken, er een enorme deficiëntie ontstaat, is het zeker aangewezen om deze groep met supplementen te behandelen, want uit voeding is het vrijwel onmogelijk, zeker in de winter, om het peil hoog genoeg te houden.
Nu heeft men in Schotland besloten om ouderen in rusthuizen extra 400 iu toe te dienen.
De Britse arts John Campbell
noemde dit "appaling" (verschrikkelijk) en zei dat de hoeveelheid, om werkzaam te zijn ruim ondermaats was en zeker het tienvoudige moest zijn.
Ik neem zelf 4.000 iu (100 µg) vitamide D per dag en voel me daar zeer goed bij.
Mensen die al jaren vitamine D als supplement gebruiken, beweren dat ze vrijwel nooit last hebben van griep en als ze verkouden worden ze er binnen de paar dagen van verlost zijn.
Het extra gebruik van vitamine D stimuleert ook de aanmaak van calcium (en magnesium) via een betere werking door de spijsvertering.
Het is daarom ook aangewezen, vooral bij ouderen, om ook vitamine K2 te nemen als supplement.
Vitamine K2 kanaliseert de calcium naar de plekken in het lichaam waar het nodig is, namelijk de botten.
Het (vitamine K2) versterkt dus de botten, en houdt de calcium weg van de weke organen, nieren (nierstenen), gal (galstenen) en de aders (aderverkalking).
En gezond en voorspoedig 2021 gewenst.
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@vaendryl
Zie je?
Je begrijpt het niet eens.
"2 hersencellen hebt om tegen elkaar te wrijven".
Je gaat maar door met beledigen en dan geraak je zelf gefrustreerd omdat je geen deugdelijke conversatie/gesprek/discussie kunt voeren.
Geloof me, mij interesseert het ook niet wat jij doet of denkt.
Ik weet wat corona is.
Ik heb vorig jaar in mei de ziekte gehad op 66 jarige leeftijd.
Ik ben de ziekte goed doorgekomen omdat ik geen onderliggende aandoening heb, geen medicijnen slik, op mijn voeding let en nooit gerookt heb.
Ik had een kans op 66 jarige leeftijd.
Mijn oom, de broer van mijn vader stierf op 11 jarige leeftijd aan tetanus.
Dit gebeurde in 1939, mijn vader was toen 9.
Ik heb bijgevolg de jongen nooit gekend.
Maar de jongen had GEEN enkele kans tegen tetanus.
Hij stierf een verschrikkelijke dood.
Elke spier in het lichaam verkrampt, wat tot een verschrikkelijke pijn leidt.
De huisarts van mijn grootouders stond machteloos en zei tegen mijn grootmoeder, "Je hebt al kinderen op de wereld gezet, je weet dus wat pijn is, maar de pijn die de jongen doormaakt is met geen pen te beschrijven".
Op gegeven moment verkrampt het hart en verlost de dood je van de pijn als je door tetanus besmet bent.
Kom mij dus niet vertellen wat het is.
En ja, ik ben gevaccineerd tegen tetanus en de pokken.
Maar niet tegen mazelen.
In de jaren '50 kregen we als kind nog al deze kinderziekten, zonder enig probleem en gezien, bijvoorbeeld mazelen, niet muterende virussen zijn, geniet je van een levenslange immuniteit.
Elk vaccin houdt een risico op bijwerkingen in.
Voor heel ernstige ziektes zoals pokken, tetanus en polio bijvoorbeeld, is een vaccin, ondanks de mogelijke bijwerkingen, wellicht verantwoord.
Over de ontwikkeling van zulke vaccins wordt jaren gedaan, 5 tot soms wel 20 jaar, om mogelijke lange termijn bijwerkingen te onderzoeken.
In dit geval werd een vaccin ontwikkeld dat voor de eerste maal op mensen wordt toegepast, namelijk een mRNA-vaccin.
Genetische manipulatie dus.
Op acht maanden tijd???
Zonder de lange termijn bijwerkingen bestudeerd te hebben en enkel getest op (vrijwillige) gezonde en jonge proefpersonen???
De lange termijn bijwerkingen en bijwerkingen bij ouderen zijn derhalve onbekend.
Heel deze vaccinatiecampagne is een groot poefproject, waarbij elke gevaccineerde een proefkonijn is.
Waarvoor?
Voor een ziekte waar je als gezonde mens zonder onderliggende aandoeningen niets te vrezen hebt.
Zelfs bij besmetting is de ratio slechts 0,23 % kans op overlijden en dat zijn dan meestal mensen met onderliggende aandoeningen, de echt zieken dus, die vaak vol medicijnen volgepropt zitten.
Onverantwoord om hiervoor massaal gezonde mensen te gaan vaccineren met een vaccin dat gebaseerd is op genetische manipulatie en onvoldoende getest werd.
Trek eens je kop uit je kont en kom uit je tunnelvisie, misschien kom je er dan ook nog achter waarom deze (muterende) ademhalingsvirussen, influenza en corona, de kop opsteken in de winter en in de zomer bijna geen kans maken.
Eens je weet hoe je je moet wapenen in de winter tegen deze virussen, heb je helemaal niets te vrezen en is een risicovol vaccin totaal overbodig en onnodig.
Via de media zul je het jammer genoeg niet vernemen.
Ik weet niet of je vertrouwd bent met de Engelse term, "lying by omission".
Daar is de media zeer goed in, "doodzwijgen", een propagandatruc die ook door de nazi's gebruikt werd.
Je zou ook denken dat de overheid lessen getrokken heeft uit het vaccinatie debacle in 2009 tijdens de Mexicaanse griep, dat tot gevallen van narcolepsie leidde onder zeer jonge kinderen wier leven totaal werd verwoest door deze ongeneeslijke ziekte, die zo ondraaglijk is om mee te leven dat narcolepsielijders vaak zelfmoord plegen.
Ze hebben duidelijk niets geleerd.
Onverantwoord, crimineel zelfs.
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@dslight113
Open je ogen.
Het is inderdaad één grote angstpsychose, alleen mensen die erin zitten en erin meegaan beseffen dat niet, zien het niet, omdat het als een soort hypnose werkt waaruit je zelf moeilijk uit kunt geraken.
Het plaatsen van linken is hier in de commentaren (door ruimdenkendheid van Omroep Brabant?) niet toegestaan, ik zal je dus een paar namen geven die je kunt koppieren en plakken in het zoekvenster van YouTube.
Luister eens naar wat wat deze professoren te zeggen hebben en "misschien" opent het je ogen, hoewel ik het betwijfel.
Maar goed, doe er je voordeel mee.
"Dr. Theo Schetters"
"Matias Desmet"
Is het je nog niet opgevallen, (waarschijnlijk niet), dat de media op één lijn zit met de overheid en 100% het narratief van de overheid verdedigt?
Dit is ongehoord en ongezien.
Het is eigenlijk overheidspropaganda van het zuiverste soort.
Dit zou op zich een oogopener moeten zijn, want zulks gedrag van de media is doorgaans enkel gangbaar in dictatoriale regimes.
De media gaat zelfs nog een stap verder, ze demoniseren, bekritiseren en veroordelen elk geluid dat anders klinkt als dat narratief van de overheid.
Eveneens ongehoord en ongezien.
Zelfs als dat geluid komt van deskundige wetenschapper en professoren, dan gaat de media resoluut tegen deze mensen in de aanval en proberen ze hen (op kinderachtige wijze) te demoniseren, belachelijk te maken en in de grond te boren.
Deze wetenschapper krijgen geen platform bij de reguliere media.
Natuurlijk niet, want het gaat in tegen het dictatoriale narratief van de overheid.
Dit zou een extra oogopener moeten zijn.
De angstpsychose moet kost wat kost in stand gehouden worden bij het gepeupel.
Iemand die durft te verklaren en beweren dat heel deze (dictatoriale) toestand waarin we ons nu bevinden, normaal en verantwoord is, die is helemaal de pedalen kwijt.
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@chrishaven1489
I am not here to support some theory, some more credible than others, about the origin of the ice ages, glacials, interglacials and also the warmer periods of the last 2000 years, about that the last word in science is not said yet.
That's how "real" science works, with progressive insight, without dogma.
You see, that's how I differ from you, I look at the facts and not at manufactured models that led to hollow slogans, which turned out to be lies.
The North Pole is still not free of ice, fact.
New York still hasn't been flooded, fact.
The Maldives are still there, fact.
The slogans that climate alarmists have spread over the past 30 years have all become debunked over time.
Time has revealed that it was all fabrication and lies that, in my opinion, completely undermined the credibility of the alarmists.
Pointing to the extension of the arctic sea ice is nonsensical, because it is constantly fluctuating, it is just an observation and in no way proves what caused it.
Moreover, you are talking nonsense, because the polar bear population has increased drastically since the 1970s.
Granted, perhaps because of the ban on hunting them, but to say that the population has declined is a blatant lie.
In addition, melting sea ice does not make the sea rise an inch.
Your quote: "The Little Ice Age largely occurred over the Northern Hemisphere i.e. Not global".
So, the northern hemisphere of the "globe" does not belong to the "globe"?
But speaking of climate, you are right, maybe the southern hemisphere got stuck in the Little Ice Age.
The average maximum temperature of the hottest month of August (summer) in the French city of Reims (Northern Hemisphere Latitude: 49 ° 15'N / Longitude: 4 ° 1'E) is 24.8 ° C.
The average maximum temperature of the hottest month of February (summer) in the French city of Port-aux-Français (southern hemisphere Latitude: 49 ° 21'S / Longitude: 70 ° 13'E) is 6 ° C.
No less than 18 ° C. cooler.
Even during the Little Ice Age, these extremely low temperatures at the same latitude in the Northern Hemisphere were not reached.
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/reims/fr/2984114/klimaat
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/port-aux-fran%C3%A7ais/tf/1546102/klimaat
Where would you prefer to live, in Reims where agriculture is "possible", or in Port-aux-Français where agriculture is "not" possible?
This occurs all over the southern hemisphere.
Compare Stanley (Falkland Islands) with London, same latitude.
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/stanley/fk/3426691/klimaat
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/londen/gb/2643743/klimaat
Compare Dunedin (New Zealand) with Rochefort (France), same latitude.
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/dunedin/nz/2191562/klimaat
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/rochefort/fr/2983276/klimaat
This is what I call "climate differences" based on established facts and not based on computer simulations, which will give you the outcome you want, depending on the data you put into the model.
Oh, co2 is not a poison like nicotine or lead, but an essential substance that is necessary for plant life, ergo animal life, on Earth.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
Let me end with a quote from Wikipedia: "The start of our present interglacial period appears to have helped spur the development of human civilization."
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@chrishaven1489
Do you actually know what you're talking about?
When I say that for the last 30, say, 35 years of fear-mongering with hollow slogans that don't come true (there's no better proof), you're saying it's been going on for 200 years.
Now you are suddenly talking about 20 years ????
The fear-mongering that your kind of people have been propagating now for more than thirty years is not coming true.
This is the proof, very clear and I don't have to prove it, you do that yourself.
Or at least, time does it for you and has debunked all your hollow slogans since the fear mongering started in the 80s.
With the examples I gave I have made it abundantly clear that the southern hemisphere, especially in the higher latitudes, is much cooler than the northern hemisphere.
These are not theories, but are measurable facts.
What I've done, as someone who is deeply interested in climate and climatic differences, is not picking cherries, just illustrating that the Southern Hemisphere is indeed cooler.
But remember, it was you who picked cherries by claiming that the Little Ice Age was not "global".
As for theories.
I am aware of the scientific theories of past climate such as Milankovitch cycles, etc.
As a little boy I was already very interested in weather and climate.
I don't know your age, but probably long before you were born.
Those theories also fascinate me and I let science continue studying the climate of the past.
After all, they are only theories and whether they will completely unravel the riddle during my life, I fear.
So far they are only theories, but they are harmless.
In contrast to dangerous computer-modeled theories that portray CO2 as a "polluter" and spread fear in the population, which is not needed for anything.
Unless you want to disrupt society.
You question the science and climate of the past and call it a "blip"
While embracing the computer simulations in models as the holy grail.
When I present an example, you call it a regional phenomenon.
I'm not a denier like you.
I could also dismiss the decline of Arctic ice as a regional phenomenon.
Or label the ice drilling in Greenland as regional.
But I don't.
I just establish the facts and stick to reality.
For me, the scientist may study the tree stumps under the glaciers in Alaska, or the ice in Greenland, or the glaciers in the Alps.
It will give them a better picture of the historical climate on Earth.
I am not discounting this as "regional" and therefore irrelevant.
That's what alarmists do who don't have a leg to stand on.
I have both feet on the ground.
Some facts: Plants stop growing when the CO2 level is lower than 150ppm.
At the end of the last glacial, the level had dropped to 180ppm.
Barely above the dramatic limit.
Cement production on Earth is responsible for 15% of all human CO2 emissions.
If you also take the production of steel and the CO2 that is released into the air, then the alarmists will have a huge problem if they want to build their wind turbines.
Not to mention the environmental damage that the solar parks will cause, for which millions of hectares of nature will have to give way.
Another fact: The mining of coal in the 18th century prevented Great Britain from being completely deforested.
Speaking of Great Britain, Europe had a warmer climate during the early Bronze Age (3000-2000 BC) than today, as shown by archaeological finds at Grimspound (Dartmoor, Great Britain). Traces of a settlement were found here, in a region that is nowadays uninhabitable due to its altitude and harsh climate.
From that period, which was even warmer and longer warmer than the Roman period, pollen and seeds of heat-loving plants were found in the soil of Great Britain, which do not grow there now because the climate is too cool.
Well, yes, regional, isn't it?
What you also do not seem to grasp by your dogmatic thinking is that melting sea ice does not cause sea-level rise.
At least not according to Archimedes' law.
Your quote: "Saying warming has helped our civilization is like saying fire has kept us warm at night. So let's keep building it up and up and up and up and up and never stop. What could possibly go wrong?""
What do I see in this quote?
Baseless fear-mongering, (a tactic also used by religions).
You don't even seem to realize that if this interglacial we now fortunately live in hadn't been there, both you and I probably wouldn't have been here either and we didn't have to have this discussion, which ends here as far as I am concerned. .
I do not deny nature and the natural climate, like you do.
You keep living in your anxiety psychosis and fairytale world if it makes you happy.
You will certainly not drag me into your religion and dogma, forget it.
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@chrishaven1489
I don't want to continue this discussion because I have to deal with someone who constantly contradicts himself.
This makes any meaningful discussion impossible.
When I talk about a period of 30 years, the period that the climate propaganda is already going on, you say, quote:
"Man-made climate change has been occurring for almost 200 years. You've literally only witnessed 11-16% of climate change in that time."
But now you say, quote:
"The North Pole is melting at a rate of 13% a decade. That's more than a quarter over 20 years."
More than a quarter in 20 years?
If I calculate back, as you claim, it has been going on for 200 years and you also claim that it is melting a ratio of 13% per decade, then I come to the conclusion that there is actually no more sea ice at the North Pole and that we are able to are to sail across the Arctic Ocean from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean, making the Panama Canal obsolete.
Another quail that was propagated 35 years ago and that did not materialize.
Archimedes' law deals with the specific weight (density) of materials, substances, objects, if you like.
If you submerge an iron object of 1 m³ in water, it will displace 1 m³ of water.
Ice is less dense than water.
An ice cube will only move as much water in the water as if it were water, the rest of the ice will remain above water.
That's why a brimful glass of water with an ice cube in it won't overflow when the ice melts.
If you don't even understand and grasp that simple principle ????
Then the discussion ends, doesn't it?
Take any location in the Southern Hemisphere that has temperature data and compare it to a location in the Northern Hemisphere of the same latitude that has temperature data, taking into account the geographic elevation and proximity to the sea, because there is so much sea. is in the southern hemisphere, you will notice that the southern hemisphere scores significantly cooler than the northern hemisphere.
But if you had a real interest in the real existing climate, you should already have known.
I've already given you some examples, but I could keep going.
To my great surprise, it is noticeable even when comparing islands in the tropics.
Kingston, Norfolk / Latitude: 29 ° 3'S / Longitude: 167 ° 57'E:
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/kingston/nf/2161314/klimaat
Hamilton, Bermuda / Latitude: 32 ° 17'N / Longitude: 64 ° 47'W
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/hamilton/bm/3573197/klimaat
Kingston is actually about 200 km closer to the equator than Hamilton.
Isangel, Vanuatu / Latitude: 19 ° 33'S / Longitude: 169 ° 16'E
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/isangel/vu/2136825/klimaat
Hilo, Hawaii / Latitude: 19 ° 43'N / Longitude: 155 ° 5'W
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/hilo/us/5855927/klimaat
On the same continent:
Cape Town, South Africa / Latitude: 33 ° 55'S / Longitude: 18 ° 25'E
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/kaapstad/za/3369157/klimaat
Rabat, Morocco / Latitude: 34 ° 2'N / Longitude: 6 ° 49'W
https://www.buienradar.nl/weer/rabat/ma/2538475/klimaat
From a latitude of 45 ° and above, agriculture in the Southern Hemisphere becomes problematic or impossible.
They will also know that on the Falkland Islands.
Fortunately, this is completely different in the northern hemisphere.
The south of Sweden is often called the granary of Sweden.
Find out for yourself what latitude that lies.
We owe this all to the interglacial in which we happily live "now".
Food supply is the first priority of every living species on Earth.
Man has succeeded, thanks to the help of available energy and mechanization in agriculture, in bringing world hunger to a minimum level unprecedented in history, despite the height of population as never before in the worlds history.
Keep in mind that in 100 years the world population has quadrupled from less than 2 billion to more than 7 billion.
Just over a year ago, during the forest fires in Australia, climate alarmists, including on the Australian ABC, shouted that climate change was to blame and that the water reservoirs would never be full again.
What do we see now?
Yes, the reservoirs are bursting and overflowing.
What they always forget to mention in their propaganda 'for the sake of convenience' is that Australia, since the arrival of the Westerners and since the recorded observations, shows that the climate is very fickle and unpredictable, with periods of long drought and periods of abundant rain. .
This will probably always be the case and no one will be able to change it.
Nor the arrogant idea that one can control the climate.
Finally, you claim that the ice in Antarctica is melting.
Have you already checked that on the spot?
Of course not, you depend on hearsay.
You see, that's the problem with propaganda, you are pretty much incapable of tracking the lies.
Finally, I give you this link, you can see the temperature at any place on earth by navigating with the cursor.
I wish you the best of luck with the ice melting in Antarctica, at the temperatures that prevail there.
https://www.ventusky.com/
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geheimschriver
Ik niet op de hoogte van wat democratie is?
Dat is net de essentie van democratie, dat je namelijk de vrijheid en het recht hebt om op iemand te stemmen naar 'eigen' keuze en niet naar de keuze van iemand die 'denkt' dat jij voor de verkeerde persoon stemt.
Vorig jaar zat ik op een terras een koffie te drinken met enkele collega's.
De vrouw van één van die collega's zei in een gesprek waar het onderwerp 'Tump' viel: "Ik moet die man (Trump) niet".
Toen ik haar vroeg waarom, zei ze: "Ik weet het niet, maar ik moet hem niet".
Ik ben er niet verder op ingegaan, maar dit is een mooi voorbeeld van dit soort haat jegens iemand, die men zelf niet kan verklaren.
Genoemd: 'Trump derangement syndrome.'
Hier in Europa voornamelijk bij de te hersenspoelen mensen gecreëerd door de media, die voortdurend een negatief beeld van de man propageren.
Ik ben geen Amerikaan en kan dus niet voor Trump stemmen, hoewel ik vind dat het de beste Amerikaanse President van de laatste 50 jaar,of langer is.
Maar als Europeaan heb ik ook de kans niet gehad om voor de Europese President te stemmen.
Een vrouw, dacht ik, ik ken haar naam niet eens.
Nee dat werd binnenskamers beslist zonder onze inspraak.
Hoera voor de Europese democratie
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geheimschriver
Ik ben het eens met John Obmar.
Niemand beweert dat de levensverwachting niet gestegen is, maar dat is niet alleen in Nederland zo.
Het is een wereldwijd verschijnsel, veroorzaakt door betere hygiëne, gezondere voeding, medische vooruitgang, enz.
De mensen voor "vergif" uitschelden is wel erg cru.
Iedereen heeft recht op een mening, men hoeft er niet voor te beginnen schelden.
Het is een feit dat de capaciteit van de gezondheidszorg maar net genoeg is voor "business as usual".
De gezondheidszorg is op zich dus niet slecht, maar door veel te sterke bezuinigingen in het verleden is de capaciteit onvoldoende in geval van calamiteiten, rampen of epidemieën.
Dat is nu toch wel voor iedereen duidelijk, tenzij je een lederen bril op hebt.
Daar heeft de doorsnee burger geen schuld aan.
Maar denk eens goed na wie de schuldigen zijn.
Juist, dezelfde mensen die nu in paniek de hele samenleving moeten ontwrichten.
Een ontwrichting waar we met z'n allen nog jaren, misschien decennia de prijs zullen voor moeten betalen.
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geheimschriver
"hoef je hier niet te wachten voor de meeste ingrepen".
Dat staat ook in mijn betoog, als ik schrijf "business as usual".
Dus, ik herhaal het nog eens, want blijkbaar kwam het niet duidelijk genoeg over, "de capaciteit is onvoldoende in geval van calamiteiten, rampen of epidemieën".
Het schijnt dat men in Duitsland per hoofd van de bevolking over vier maal de capaciteit aan IC-bedden beschikt, vergeleken met Nederland.
Dit is toch wel een aanzienlijk verschil, als je 't mij vraagt?
Dus, ik heb het niet over de gewone ingrepen, business as usual dus, maar over de nalatigheid van de leiders van het land om rekening te houden met onverwachte gebeurtenissen, zoal rampen en epidemieën .
Een goed beleid en een goed bestuur had daar wel rekening mee moeten houden.
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@ffsireallydontcare
No one, absolutely no one (not me, not you, not even Pfizer) knows the harmful long-term effects of these hastily cobbled together experimental vaccines under conditional approval and waiver of responsibility by governments.
It is idiotic to call people who do not participate in the vaccination experiment idiots.
I would rather call them sensible and careful.
Ivermectin has been administered to several billion people and has had very few side effects reported in the long time the drug has been on the market.
It has fewer side effects than regular aspirin, so there's no need to test it at all, and it's dirt cheap too.
This is in contrast to the vaccines, where the number of "short-term" side effects is already colossal and can hardly be kept up with.
Some people are left with neurological damage that is irreversible, which means they will have to live with it for the rest of their lives, if they survive at all.
Who will compensate these people (victims)?
Can neurological damage be compensated at all?
Or will they say, as the Dutch government said, after the 2009 vaccinations against swine flu, in which several young children were left with narcolepsy after the vaccination, "the link has not been proven"?
Narcolepsy is a neurological condition so hard to live with that many of the patients who suffer from it commit suicide.
That's how unbearable narcolepsy is.
The mainstream media has become one big propaganda machine.
The clearest evidence of this is the fact that already the harmful short-term side effects of the (experimental) vaccines are being hushed up and downplayed.
By the way, the slogan: "get vaccinated to protect someone else", I am not falling for that.
Vaccinating, if you do it at all, you do it to protect yourself.
But that has been the whole purpose of the fear mongering, to soften people so that they are so fearful that they fall into that set-up trap without thinking.
Who can blame them?
You can make frightened people do anything, a trick that the Nazis also knew and used.
We do not live in a corona pandemic, but in a fear pandemic.
Declaring Covid-19 to category A, after which we now have to find that (even) the WHO admits that the IFR is somewhere between 0.15 and 0.23 %, in comparison, Ebola has an IFR of 50 to 80 %.
And, yes, the Chinese are laughing their asses off, because their economy is running at full capacity, while in the western countries the economy is at a standstill.
Moreover, the biggest impact of all these nonsensical lockdowns is yet to follow.
We will notice this in the coming years.
Price hikes and additional taxes to fill the created pit will strain the economy even further.
Or will they print extra money?
Also a possibility.
But then the 100 note you now have in your pocket will soon be worth barely 50.
Just be prepared for it.
Oh, yes, one more thing, Pfizer is already asking to provide a third shot.
Guess the reason?
That's right, "the new variant".
Where is this going to end?
Will this end?
Because all respiratory viruses mutate like crazy, science has known that for decades.
It has also been the reason why (long-term tested) vaccines were never developed for it.
Pointless, because if the vaccine had been tested safe and sound, the virus would have mutated several times.
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@alkante2962
Your quote; "We won't be able to afford an other strict lockdown. "
I agree with that.
Yet they do it in Wales.
And our famous politicians here in Belgium don't rule it out either.
As for the clinical picture of covid19, well, it can cause serious complications, especially with older people who already have one or more underlying (or more complex) conditions.
Yet more than 99% of infected people heal from it.
But if you put it in the media like that, it is of course not sensational enough.
The mainstream media has slipped to the level of the tabloids.
A headline from a television report last week in Belgium read: "Liège, the Bergamo of the second wave".
You would expect such a headline in a sensation magazine, but not on state television that is paid with our tax money.
Yet many people are still guided and influenced by such sensational reporting.
The fact that they have problems with the care of patients in Liège is largely the result of the budget cuts in the health sector over the past decades.
Another example of such reporting:
In March/April, during the lockdown, our state television showed footage of a "supposedly" special corona graveyard in New York, where mass graves were dug with a bulldozer to bury the abundance of corona deaths.
But many people who saw the images had a deja vu and thought, "I've seen those images before".
They turned out to come from a report that had been broadcast a few years earlier.
They were images of a New York cemetery where dead unidentified homeless people were buried.
Due to reactions from viewers, the channel had to apologize for the disinformation.
This should never have happened, but it shows how eager the media is to thrill and scare people.
You don't want to blame the WHO.
But if almost all countries signed up to follow the recommendations of the WHO, then you as an institute bear a great responsibility.
In December/January, Tedros of the WHO, who had been in China, stated that it was not transferable from human to human, only from animal (bat) to human.
Trump, who felt that things were happening in China that were not kosher, closed the US borders to those coming from China on January 31.
For this he was called "xenophobic" by his opponents (haters).
A few days later, Tedros declared to the press that "travel restrictions are not necessary".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOpBke87-ec&ab_channel=ARIRANGNEWS
Later in February, Nancy Pelosi ostentatiously walked the streets of Chinatown with the press, and declared that nothing was wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmllqkU6j2k&ab_channel=JosephHewes
At the beginning of March, Tedros suddenly declared: "It is time to pull out all the stops".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9hYkoZH7yo&t=10s&ab_channel=APArchive
But even the panic monger, Neil Ferguson, with his unreliable computer models, now admits a lockdown was wrong.
https://viruswaarheid.nl/medisch/modellen/neil-ferguson-lockdown-was-een-vergissing-voorspelling-miljoenen-doden-waren-startschot-draconische-maatregelen/
Click for English version on the British flag.
If you go through this entire history, it seems like a science fiction story that the greatest fantasist could not have imagined last year (2019).
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Goran
You know, nobody has to die for me.
But dying is a law of nature that applies almost to all living things on earth.
We would be in serious trouble if no creature on Earth died.
Nature has provided a balance.
The older you get, the more likely you are to die of natural causes.
Sickness is one of the natural causes.
That is, if you have not weakened or made yourself sick by a wrong lifestyle, such as smoking or excessive alcohol consumption.
As in so many areas, humans have disrupted the natural balance through interventions and medication that have caused life expectancy to increase significantly, by artificially keeping people alive who should have been dead already.
Not that I disapprove, because it's a natural reflex of almost everyone to try to live as long as possible.
But then you are left with a very vulnerable group of people who could get into trouble if a disease emerges that disrupts this strategy of life extension of the elderly.
There are many countries where more people died from influenza during the 2018 flu epidemic than now from corona.
Relatively speaking, these were mostly elderly, but also young people.
Despite the flu vaccines, a variant that was not in the vaccines then surfaced, and even vaccinated people became ill and died.
Yet you hear little about this in the current hysteria, partly due to the media.
But it also shows that a vaccine is not foolproof.
It also shows that covid19 is kind to the young, compared to the flu.
That's why I actually think the flu is worse than corona.
But that's my personal vision, after going through all aspects of it.
Oh and I'm not saying this as a youngster, I'm already 66 myself and close to the risk zone.
I have never smoked, I am not a drinker, I watch my diet and eat fresh fruit, which makes it good with vitamin C, I think.
Vitamin C and D are very important for a healthy immune system.
At our latitude in Western Europe, we are deficient in vitamin D.
Especially in winter during the short sun-poor days, when we also spend a lot of time indoors.
I am considering taking a vitamin D supplement during the winter.
It's strange that you never hear the virologists who scare us through the media every day tell you about it.
Probably that is not important enough for them (or the media).
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@danielbengtsson9833
This is not theory, but facts.
Compare the "official" figures of cases in relation to deaths from March/April, with the "official" figures of cases in relation to deaths from "now".
A toddler sees that something is not right.
The number of deaths now is only increasing by a fraction of what it was then.
Either the number of cases is incorrect or there is something wrong with the number of deaths.
I can still accept a small deviation, but this deviation is too blatant.
The media always uses the numbers in the most dramatic sense, namely "double", "quadruple" when it suits them.
Percentages are now also great in the media.
An increase from 40 to 50 is a percentage of 25%.
25% sounds more impressive than 10 cases.
Unfortunately for them, "the media", I see through all those tricks.
The problems that are now emerging and for which we were put into a "supposedly" temporary lockdown in March (of no more than three weeks, they said) was to counter the overload of hospitals.
They now use a different narrative to devastate the economies in the Western countries.
Now they speak of "We are going to fight and eradicate the virus".
Well, I wish them the best of luck, our famous politicians.
Over the past decades, they have ensured that the health sector has been tidied up and cut back to such an extent that the capacity in the event of epidemics or possible disasters is insufficient.
I have seen several hospitals disappear here within a radius of 25 km from my hometown.
There were two retirement homes for the elderly within a radius of 5km, both of which have been demolished and one new "large" retirement home was built.
That would be much more efficient, but a infection in such a "large" nursing home is also a "major" problem.
In small nursing homes, such as in Norway, any contamination can be better controlled.
In Sweden, I understand, they have quite a lot African immigrants, just like here in Belgium.
They seem to be more susceptible.
Are these people more susceptible because they have hardly or not come into contact with other corona variants in their past?
But you can spin it however you want, Belgium with its strict devastating lockdown is doing worse than Sweden.
I have been hit hard with my business as it is seasonal from March to October.
Since the lockdown was never completely lifted here.
There was still a ban for some industries, I could only run more or less normally (with restrictions) in September, in October the restrictions were tightened again, so that my company had an annual turnover of barely 10 % of a normal year and moreover I could not create the traditional buffer (reserve) to bridge the winter period until next season.
Fortunately, I already have a respectable age and have savings, which I now have to live on.
But there are young people in my industry who do not yet have a reserve (savings), where the drama is imminent.
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@danielbengtsson9833
If the purpose of looking at other countries is to blame Sweden, then I am not participating.
If it is for the sake of science or rather, better knowledge, then OK.
I know from experience that a lockdown has been an exaggerated panic reaction by governments frightened by pitiful scientists who engage in dangerous computer simulations.
Even the WHO now says that a lockdown is not the ideal way to contain the virus.
Yet they praised the tactics of the dictatorial Chinese in March as a panacea.
You could say, "Oh, but they also had to learn through advancing insight."
Nevertheless, lockdowns are still being introduced and applied, as in Wales UK and Melbourne Australia, to the great dismay of the population.
You do not lock up or chain up people who live in Western democracies.
The Chinese people don't know any better, these people have lived in one big prison for generations.
If you have been to Japan, you will also know that it is customary in Japan for the elderly to be kept at home as a family for as long as possible.
They consider this a duty.
Where were the most victims in Sweden and also in Belgium?
Exactly, in the retirement homes for the elderly.
Elderly people living at home in Belgium are much less affected.
An analyst in the Netherlands called Maurice de Hond, went out of professional interest to study the spread of the virus.
Now in the south of the Netherlands, North Brabant and Limburg, there was a tremendous outbreak of corona infections very early in the pandemic.
It was blamed on the carnival, which is celebrated in the south of the Netherlands in that period.
But how could one or two people infect hundreds of people in a short time?
The same happened in Ischgl (Austria), where almost immediately hundreds of people were infected.
Actually, it could hardly have been through direct contact, but it must have happened by air.
He also contacted virologists and most importantly, epidemiologists also abroad who confirmed his hypothesis.
Many of these infected persons also had a remarkable number of lung problems.
He came to the analysis that the contamination did not happen outside on the street during the carnival and also not on the ski slope, but during the after parties that are held during the carnival and apres-ski in closed, poorly ventilated areas.
Where the people contracted the infection via contaminated air, which they immediately inhaled into their lungs in high doses.
Bringing the infection straight to the most dangerous place in their body, "the lungs."
People who are in poorly ventilated retirement homes, where the air is contaminated with the virus, breathe that air 24/7, directly into the most dangerous place in their body, "the lungs".
The Dutch politicians and RIVM dismissed Maurice de Hond's theory as: "What does he know about it?" "He is not a medical expert."
In the meantime, the RIVM in the Netherlands continues to claim that contamination via aerosols is "the air" is negligible.
The "so-called" experts advising the government just keep talking about vaccines, mouth masks, keeping five feet apart, limiting social contacts, paralyzing businesses such as cafes and restaurants, etc.
But what has the government been doing about ventilation since March?
Indeed, NOTHING.
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@MGoudsmits
Mijn school??
Ik word deze maand 67, ik vrees dus dat ze me op school niet graag zullen zien komen.
Wat niet wegneemt dat ik nog dagelijks bijleer.
Zoals, dat er mensen zijn, die zoals men dat in het Engels zegt, "jump to conclusions".
Ook dat er mensen zijn die een ander opinie niet graag horen en dan maar beginnen schelden zonder inhoud, in de zin van "wat een onzin kraam je uit".
Maar dat er zulke mensen rondlopen, dat wist ik al langer.
Niets nieuws onder de zon dus.
De overhaaste conclusies trok je wellicht omdat je op mijn YouTube-account iets vond, waardoor je overhaaste en verkeerde conclusies trok.
Ik lach me hier bijna een breuk.
Er staan enkele zaken op die account die mijn petekind erop plaatste toen hij mijn YouTube-account gebruikte.
Dat je zo te werk gaat, zegt veel meer over jezelf dan over mij.
Als je waar dan ook een serieuze discussie wil aangaan, doe het dan serieus en kom met inhoud, zonder schelden en mensen hun account te bespieden en overhaaste conclusies te trekken.
Je zet jezelf buitenspel met je manier van doen, dat besef je toch?
Als je dat niet beseft, is het des te erger voor jou.
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@Janus Vinks
Oh, maar ik begrijp je zeer goed, hoor.
Je probeert met je "stel" verhaaltje(s) Willem in het hokje van de "onzinverhaaltjes" te plaatsen.
Framen, dus.
Ik zal je eens (geen verhaaltjes) maar feiten geven over de leugens van de media.
In het voorjaar van 2020, tijdens de lockdown-periode toen, toonde de Vlaamse staatszender VRT beelden van een massagraf in New York, waar "zogezegd" de overvloed aan corona-lijken begraven werden.
Maar veel kijkers die de beelden zagen kregen een "déjà vu".
Ze hadden die beelden al eens eerder gezien.
Wat bleek?
Die beelden kwamen uit een reportage over daklozen in New York die enkele jaren eerder gedraaid werd.
Het waren inderdaad beelden van enkele jaren oud, van een massagraf waar niet geïdentificeerde daklozen werden/worden begraven.
Niets, maar dan ook absoluut niets, niks, nada, met corona te maken.
Pure, de zuiverste, misleiding en propaganda van het laagste soort.
Geen leugentje om bestwil, nee doelbewuste leugens.
Die des te erger zijn, omdat een groot deel van de bevolking (voorlopig nog) de media met zowel open als gesloten ogen vertrouwt.
Daarom is het des te verwerpelijker.
Na het krijgen van ettelijke e-mails van misnoegde kijkers, heeft de zender zich nadien, naar ik horen zeggen heb, ervoor geëxcuseerd.
Zulk degoutant gedrag van de media valt niet goed te praten en is zelfs niet te excuseren.
Nog iets wat me geweldig dwarszit is dat ik elke persoon die in een ziekenhuis werkt, die ik ken of tegenkwam en bevroeg over de situatie in "hun" ziekenhuis, mij steeds keer op keer antwoordden: "Oh, er liggen wel enkele corona-patiënten in ons ziekenhuis, maar de aantallen vallen wel mee".
??? Helemaal in strijd met wat ik in de media hoor???
Eén persoon, die in een verzorgingstehuis voor bejaarden werkt, zei me zelfs dat ze (in juni 2020) in hun tehuis nog geen enkel corona-besmette hadden gehad.
Maar dat wel elke persoon die sinds half maart 2020 overleden was, geregistreerd werd als coronaoverledene.
Schokkend.
Nog zo'n staaltje, nu we het toch over New York hebben.
Zelfs de Amerikaanse President liet zich misleiden door de propaganda.
De toestand in New York was zo dramatisch en onhoudbaar dat hij (de President) het bevel gaf en een hospitaalschip van de Amerikaanse marine naar New York stuurde, specifiek om er corona-patiënten in op te vangen.
Zo erg was de toestand in New York, dat geen enkel bed op dat schip gebruikt werd.
Echter, de ergste misleiding gebeurde in het voorjaar van 2020 door de overheid, met het instellen van een lockdown van enkele weken, hooguit drie weken, zeiden ze, om de druk op ziekenhuizen en de curve af te vlakken.
We zijn nu mei 2021, meer dan een jaar later en waar staan we nu?
Misleiding, leugens en hypocrisie van een overheid die de laatste decennia verantwoordelijk was voor het afschalen van de ziekenhuiscapaciteit en ze tot de helft te herleiden in een steeds grijzer wordende samenleving.
Het erge is dat mensen als ik met een goedwerkend bedrijf de dupe zijn geworden van deze overheidshypocrisie.
Velen denken, vooral overheidsambtenaren, dat ze niet geraakt werden/worden door deze absurde maatregelen.
Maar geloof me, de terugslag zal enorm zijn, de dreun die dit aan onze westerse economie en samenleving zal bezorgen, zal kolossaal zijn.
Al die miljarden die men vergooid heeft zullen moeten opgehoest worden en wie gaat ervoor opdraaien denk je?
Het zal niet in één decennia uitgewist worden en hoewel de bedrijven, zoals steeds, de eerste slachtoffers zullen zijn, zal uiteindelijk iedereen wel in mindere of meerdere mate delen in de klappen.
Behalve misschien enkele elitairen die zich verrijkt hebben tijdens deze hele toestand.
Ondertussen draait in China de economie op volle toeren en de Chinezen lachen zich een hoedje hoe de westerse landen zichzelf in de voet schieten.
Voor mijn bedrijf en mijn leven zijn dit alvast twee verloren jaren en ik vrees voor de jaren die komen.
Ik voel me fysiek vijf jaar ouder dan een jaar geleden.
Ik vrees ook voor de jongere generatie, het worden harde tijden voor hen, het wordt geen lachertje.
Op heel deze periode en gang van zaken zal binnen 20/30 jaar met ongeloof teruggekeken worden.
Daar twijfel ik niet aan.
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@eeeaten The last glacial period did not end 2,000 years ago, but about 11,500 years ago, the beginning of the Holocene, the current interglacial.
But this study covers a period of the last 3,500 years, which "exactly" shows that 2,000 years ago it was so warm (Roman Climate optimum) that there were virtually no glaciers in the Alps.
1859 was the maximum in those 3,500 years, which was reached by the scientifically known Little Ice Age, from which the climate has been recovering (gradually warming) since 1859 to the level before the Little Ice Age, about 600 years ago.
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Something to think about?
Are we still allowed to think for ourselves from our dictatorial governments?
I also heard a lot of "assumptions" in this talk.
Which isn't really scientific.
Moreover, I find it shocking that there is propaganda that lockdowns and the like would work and that those measures are justified time and again.
There is not yet a single scientific study that has shown that these measures help or have helped.
If it were the case, while we are talking about the States, then the states in the US, which applied very strict dictatorial measures, would be easy to pick out.
But what do we see?
States with strict measures often do worse than states where absurd measures were treated less strictly.
Herd immunity has helped humanity over and over again from such epidemics as this one.
Why should it be any different now?
In addition, "real" scientists have long known that developing vaccines against respiratory viruses is a hopeless task because of the numerous mutations.
The flu vaccine is a good example of this.
It is estimated that it only protects about 15% against the upcoming flu mutant, for which there is no vaccine yet.
They inject you with a cocktail of earlier known variants, in the hope that it could work more or less for the upcoming variant.
Which is sometimes very disappointing.
These flu vaccines are very effective to pay for your doctor's skiing holiday.
Apparently people stubbornly refuse to learn from history and prefer to disrupt the entire society and economy, with a colossal cost as a result, which the next and younger generation will be stuck with.
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@PPRRPelt
Het gebruik van de corona epidemie tegen Trump door zijn tegenstanders Biden en de Democraten is absoluut vunzige politiek.
In de VS hebben de gouverneurs de bevoegdheid in geval van rampen of epidemieën.
Zij dienen maatregelen te treffen in geval van.
De President kan en mag wel logistieke hulp bieden, door bijvoorbeeld de nationale (federale) garde te sturen en in te zetten, of bijvoorbeeld een hospitaalschip naar het door een Democratische gouverneur geleid New York te sturen.
Schip dat overigens vrijwel ongebruikt bleef in New York.
Wat hij wel kon/kan en ook gedaan heeft is maatregelen treffen om de instroom van het virus te beletten het land binnen te komen.
Dat deed hij al heel vroeg, die achterlijke domme man, zoals sommige hem noemen.
Op 31 januari al sloot hij de grens voor wie vanuit China kwam.
Hij werd hiervoor door zijn tegenstanders (zijn haters) uitgescholden voor xenofoob.
Enkele dagen na zijn beslissing verklaarde de marxistische voorzitter van de WHO, tegen de beslissing van Trump in, dat er geen reisbeperkingen nodig waren en Nancy Pelosi, de voorzitter van de kamer, ging ostentatief wandelen in Chinatown en beweerde dat er niets aan de hand was.
Dit was in februari.
Nu verwijten diezelfde mensen Trump ervan te laat opgetreden te hebben en te weinig gedaan te hebben.
Over hypocrisie gesproken.
Ironisch genoeg zijn het de staten die geleid worden door Democratisch gouverneurs, die het slechts scoren wat de corona epidemie betreft.
Eind februari maakte de WHO en de mensen die alles gebagatelliseerd hadden, een bocht van 180 graden.
Diezelfde hypocrieten misbruiken nu de corona epidemie en proberen ze in de schoenen van Trump te schuiven.
Binnen enkele maanden, als er voldoende groepsimmuniteit onder de bevolking is, kwijnt het virus weg, maar het Presidentschap duurt vier jaar.
In die vier jaar zal het gaan over heel wat andere onderwerpen en problemen.
Onder andere de veroorzaakte schade van al de desastreuze corona-maatregelen van nu.
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Schorsen, schorsen, schorsen, beetje bij beetje, dat voelen we allemaal, wordt de vrijheid van meningsuiting steeds verder en verder beperkt, tot we eindigen in "1984".
Misschien is het tijd om een lijstje te maken van wat er nog "wel" mag gezegd worden, in de stijl van, "Oh, voorzitter, de heer Klaver staat me hier ongefundeerd te framen, besmeuren en met modder te gooien, maar hoe lief toch, ik geniet ervan"?
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@noelcayer3599
When they give you a flu shot, you get a cocktail of three to four vaccines, one of which they hope will work against the variant to come.
That did not work very well in 2018.
A variant surfaced to which the cocktail did not responded well.
Vaccinated, well, supposedly vaccinated people got the flu anyway, and many died.
Almost as many died as of corona now.
Also with overcrowded ICs like now.
But no drama was woven around.
Strange, isn't it?
The point remains: It has never been possible to market a vaccine that causes no side effects in certain people.
Some with permanent lifelong injuries, such as the swine flu vaccine in 2009, which led to narcolepsy in some, including small children.
The time span in which that corona vaccine was developed is far too short.
Certainly those vaccines based on that new mRNA type that has never been used in humans.
So I stick to my point: The mutational properties of these viruses is the main reason why vaccine manufacturers never attempted to develop a vaccine for them.
Because the development of a valid vaccine takes about 5 to 20 years to study its long-term effects.
Something that has not happened here and that can't be done with these mutating viruses.
Hence the 2009 debacle with the swine flu vaccine.
A very risky business, which made me decide not to get vaccinated.
Incidentally, unnecessary because I was already naturally infected with the corona virus in May last year and survived it with ease at the age of 66.
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@cedricsurveynen638
Inderdaad.
Hij, Trump, had het zelf ook voorspeld en ik had al maanden geleden aan vrienden gezegd dat ze Trump bij de volgende verkiezingen zouden nekken.
Gezien, natuurlijk, de geschiedenis van de afgelopen vier jaar was dit wel te verwachten.
Onze media hier in België en Europa, zijn 100% vooringenomen en lijden aan TDS.
Dat de media al lang niet objectief meer zijn is niet nieuw voor me.
Ik erger me er al jaren aan, onder andere hun klimaatopwarming-agenda, die me echt de strot uitkomt.
Trump was tegen dat systeem van stemmen per post, hij wist dat ze dat konden gebruiken om te frauderen.
Vorig jaar 2019, toen we hier in België naar de stembus moesten, moest ik die zondag werken.
Toen ik 's avonds naar mijn auto stapte, zei ik tegen een collega dat ik benieuwd was naar de afloop van de verkiezingen.
Hij antwoordde me in het plat Antwerps dialect: "Er verandert toch nooit iets, het is één grote bende".
Ik moest erom lachen omdat hij het zo plat zei, maar zijn woorden blijven me bij.
Er gebeuren rare dingen en er wordt ons een serieus rad voor de ogen gedraaid.
Ik kom graag naar hier, omdat je hier toch nog eens een ander geluid krijgt.
Ik heb zelf al een gevorderde leeftijd (66), geen Millenial en heb dus al wat levenservaring.
Maar wat zich het afgelopen jaar heeft afgespeeld kan ik niet plaatsen.
Dit tart mijn logisch en gezond verstand.
Er gebeuren rare dingen in de wereld en je moet nog opletten wat je zegt of je wordt weggezet als een complotdenker.
Ik vraag me soms af of het dat is wat "ze" willen, dat we niet meer denken en gedwee als schapen volgzaam worden.
Ik vrees voor de jongeren, de toekomstige generatie, in wat voor wereld gaan die verzeild geraken.
Groeten uit Kruibeke, Oost-Vlaanderen.
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@KeeNGaming "There is a huge housing crisis going on in NL".
A problem that has existed for decades, which has been left to run its course by successive governments and exacerbated by immigration.
Even worse, certain ministers shouted aloud in the media that the Netherlands can easily welcome another 1 million immigrants.
But if I understand you correctly, the housing shortage is why agriculture has to downsize and not the (fake) nitrogen problem, which was whipped into a major problem because nitrogen standards were set that are hundreds of times higher than in neighboring countries, such as Germany.
Agriculture and the economy around it, which you demonize, is responsible for more than 2%.
Remember that food is essential for the survival of any animal species, including humans, who have always known hunger throughout their history.
Something that improved greatly thanks to modern agriculture after the Second World War, so that the current generation no longer has a clue, of which your argument is also a poignant example.
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@Richard482
"make up your mind".
No, you don't even realize it, thermometer readings are too recent to judge climate.
They officially started in my country in the middle of the 19th century, in a single station near the capital in a wooded area, now urbanized.
In many countries, these measurements even started later in the 20th century.
Real climate data is based on proxi observations, sediments, ice cores, glaciers, tree rings, etc.
That was the deception of Michael Mann's hokeystick, pasting termometer data from the last 100/150 years to centuries of proxidata, to, as his emails show, "hide the decline".
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@bagofsunshine3916
Over welke griep praat jij eigenlijk?
Zoek maar eens op hoeveel varianten er zijn.
Er zijn ook griepvarianten die kinderen vellen.
Daar is dit coronavirus klein bier bij vergeleken, want Covid-19 spaart jongeren en kinderen.
Het velt eigenlijk alleen zwakkeren en ouderen, een soort natuurlijke selectie.
Cru?
Ja, inderdaad, zo is het leven.
Oh, zeker, de media zal wel ergens een (uitzonderlijk) geval opdissen van een jong persoon die stierf aan corona, zo kennen we de media, toch.
Bovendien is het nog maar de vraag of die jonge persoon geen andere gezondheidsproblemen had.
Men heeft geen enkel medicijn tegen dit virus, zoals trouwens met menig virus het geval is.
Eens een nieuw virus de kop opsteekt zal het zich verspreiden, omdat in principe alle mensen, die er geen immuniteit voor hebben, potentiële slachtoffers zijn.
Een rijke voedingsbodem dus, waardoor het zo snel om zich heen grijpt.
Het virus komt slechts in de problemen als een (over)groot deel van de bevolking besmet geweest is en er bijgevolg immuniteit tegen opgebouwd heeft.
Het virus verliest dan zijn voedingsbodem, omdat het alleen niet immune mensen kan besmetten.
Dus ons met z'n allen opsluiten, zal dit proces alleen maar vertragen en rekken.
Dan kun je je wel de vraag stellen of deze draconische maatregelen wel verantwoord zijn.
Naar mijn mening niet, maar ik laat me dan ook niet opjutten door de sensatiegeile hersenspoelende media.
De medische wetenschap staat vrij machteloos tegen virussen, tenzij men er een vaccin kunnen voor ontwikkelen heeft.
Dus, het is één van de risico's van ons leven.
Honderd jaar geleden was de wereldbevolking slechts 1/4 van wat ze nu is, 1,8 miljard tegen nu 7,7 miljard.
De mensen reisden toen nog niet per vliegtuig.
De Spaanse griep die toen heerste heeft toen de verste uithoek op aarde bereikt, zelfs de eilanden in de Stille Oceaan.
Zoek maar eens op via Wikipedia bijvoorbeeld wat er toen gebeurde en hoeveel slachtoffers er toen vielen in verhouding met de wereldbevolking van toen.
Ik post de link niet, want dan loop ik de kans dat deze reactie onzichtbaar wordt gemaakt.
Ik onderschat het virus niet, laat dat duidelijk zijn.
Nee, je kunt er flink ziek van zijn.
Maar heb wel mijn bedenkingen van de mede door de media opgeklopte massahysterie (opkloppen dat overigens nog steeds doorgaat) en de overdreven maatregelen die door domme politici genomen werden.
Ooit al geweten dat politici wijze beslissingen nemen?
Ik niet.
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@Theo-u7x4k Doe je 't met opzet, of ben je echt zo traag van begrip?
NOS, BBC, VRT, VTM, ARD, ZDF,, ABC, CBC, CNN, NBC... noem maar op, waarom denk je dat ze allemaal hetzelfde narratief spuien?
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@krook5158
I would rather call it "mind control".
The sensationalism of this video speaks volumes.
Airports, with their large concrete and termac surface, are not official meteorological stations.
Even if it is regarded as such, it is a deviation from the rule that a meteo measuring point should be located as much as possible in a natural environment.
Far from buildings, roads and other influences.
The central meteorological station in my country was in a wooded area when it was founded.
It is now located in an urban area due to the expansion of the urban agglomeration.
Because of what is called the urban island effect, the measurements of today can no longer be compared with the measurements of 150 years ago.
Also remember that the glaciers in the Alps, as a result of the Little Ice Age, reached their maximum of the last 3500 years in 1859/60.
Since then, we've been slowly scribbling back to the climate before the Little Ice Age, which started around the 15th century.
Scientific studies show that during Roman times (some 2000 years ago), it was so warm that the glaciers in the Alps were non-existent.
It suffices to follow the science to not be fooled by this sensationalized scaremongering.
PS, I live in Western Europe and the weeks leading up to these few warm days it was rather cool summer weather.
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@laMoria
A piece of science out: LITTLE ICE AGES
Second edition
By: Jean M. Grove:
Historical evidence of Little Ice Age events is much
more plentiful in Europe than elsewhere but the documentation
from other continents, though scantier, is
supported by a great volume of field evidence (e.g.
Hope et al. 1976, Hastenrath 1984) It emerges that the
Little Ice Age was a global phenomenon that began
in or around the fourteenth century (Grove 2001a, b,
Broecker 2001) and it is shown in Chapter 15 that it
was not unique in the Holocene. Involving fluctuations
in temperature of 2 °C or less, it was none the less
sufficient to cause advance of the Greenland ice edge
(Weidick 1968) and to be associated with measurable
meteorological, geomorphological and vegetational
changes.
It is certainly true that lower temperatures were not
sustained throughout the period. The Little Ice Age
itself consisted of a series of frequent fluctuations, such
as those exhibited in Manley's temperature curves for
central England and worked out in great detail for
Switzerland by Pfister. Such fluctuations
consist of individual years and clusters of years in which
weather conditions depart strongly from longer term
means. Average conditions throughout the Little Ice
Age were, none the less, such that mountain glaciers
advanced to more forward positions than those they
had occupied for several centuries, or in some areas
even millennia, and fluctuated about those positions
until the warming phase in the decades around 1900
brought them back to where they had been in earlier
Holocene warm periods. It has been nicely demonstrated
that certain Swiss glaciers such as the Ferpècle
were of comparable extent in the 1980s and before
about 3500 years BP (Röthlisberger et al. 1980 ).
This finding provides excellent confirmation
of Matthes's hunch that the recent recession
represents merely 'one of the mild fluctuations that
has occurred repeatedly in the last 4000 years'.
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@otowise
You forgot to mention Peter Ridd and the injustice that this man must stand as an honest scientist.
But this whole climate issue has absolutely nothing to do with science.
It is a pure political affair.
The people who are defending it here with scientific arguments are well aware of that.
But if they really believe that it is science, then they must be forgiven, because they are probably brainwashed to such an extent that they cannot possibly face reality.
What is the rality?
In my life I have experienced the cooling post-war period that lasted until the late 1970s.
That was also regularly propagated in the media with slogans such as, "We are heading for a new ice age".
That cooling actually is strange, because after the war, CO2 emissions from humans rose exponentially.
Then it remained calm for a while.
Not for long though, because then suddenly they came up with 'global warming'.
An old medieval trick, frightening the people that they are going to hell, unless they keep calm and keep walking within the (political non-democratic) line.
At the time, religion was used for this.
Was it not the emperor who said to the cardinal, "If you keep them stupid, I will keep them poor"?
Or was it the cardinal who said to the emperor, "If you keep them poor, I will keep them stupid"?
Anyway.
This is no longer so easy, because people are no longer so religious.
But, wait a minute, they have great faith in science.
Yes!
So this whole thing has become a religion, for some even a cult.
From my life experience I learned that you cannot have constructive discussions with religious people and certainly not with crazy cultists.
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@leedelaney70
"The Democrats have said many times they were more than happy to agree to a higher payment."
Indeed.
As long as the rest of their nonsensical climate plans and money flows abroad get through the senate, then it's okay for the dems.
It wasn't Trump who sent a plane stuffed with hard-earned US tax dollars to Iran's Ayatollahs.
Do you remember who did "that"?
Trump did not buy his foreign relations with US tax money.
He also strived to remove as many soldiers as possible from those endless and pointless conflicts abroad.
Why was he not loved, among others by the European corrupt establishment?
Because he didn't bribe them and, on the contrary, made them pay for their NATO commitments, which they failed to honor.
But mainly because he is an anti-globalist, who protects the freedom of the individual and democracy.
The odd thing is, these left-wing lunatics, supposedly defending the less fortunate, are embracing the radical plans of the World Economic Forum's "Great Reset," whose plans boil down to a neo-feudal system where at the top of the pyramid the rich and powerful will sit and determine everything.
China is their example and role model.
Needless to say, democracy does not belong in this picture.
To achieve that, they need (for the time being) the radical Marxist fools, who walk in to it with their eyes closed.
Trump, with his anti-globalism, stood in the way of this powerful and corrupt elite, who now also have the new rich, the bosses of big tech, in their boat.
As a Soros spokesperson said, "It's a question of whether or not to be on board the ship."
"But the ship has already left and is already underway".
Conspiracy thinking?
No, it isn't.
Just Google "World Economic Forum" and you will find their official website.
Their slogan is, "You won't own anything, but you'll be happier".
Just fall for it.
That will be the future of our children and grandchildren.
Once those plans are rolled out, there will be no going back, peaceful or not.
They will take care of that.
You can be sure of that.
Elections that are still organized for the show will then take place in the Venezuelan way, which we already got a taste of.
They will systematically eliminate anyone who stands in the way of globalism until they reach their goal.
Frightening when you think about it.
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@leedelaney70
I don't know if you know what you're talking about yourself.
Have you ever looked at the site of the "World Economic Forum"?
"The Great Reset" are not my words.
"Ze Greet Rieset," as Klaus Schwab said in a horrible German accent.
A lot of hypocrites together:
https://soundcloud.com/world-economic-forum/the-great-reset?in=world-economic-forum/sets/world-vs-virus
How many times did you hear the word "reset"?
And how often did you hear the word "democracy"?
Right.
At the last meeting in Davos, Soros confidently announced that the "Trump administration would disappear".
What is clear from your explanation is that you are suffering from an extreme form of TDS.
Fueled by mainstream media propaganda.
Because you're parroting exactly what they spouted as propaganda the last four years.
The propaganda has clearly done its job well.
Especially when you know that concealment and omitting is one of their greatest propaganda tricks, which was also well known trick and used by the Nazis.
Like their silence about the Biden laptop, for example.
You could call it laughable if it wasn't so sad.
Made up the election fraud?
In my country there is no right to vote, but voting is compulsory.
Since there are always people who have a reason not to be able to go on election day, illness, work or other obligations, even here a turnout of 100% is impossible.
But in the US, during the last elections, they managed to achieve more than 100% turnout in several districts.
But there is no fraud, oh no, there is no evidence for it.
Laughable but sad, especially for the democratic rights of "all" Americans.
Just like you are playing cards and a fifth Ace pops up and everyone starts shouting in unison that there was no cheating.
The absence of the judicial branch throughout this affair is shocking.
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@user-yr3dh3sv2v
It is a package of more than 6000 pages, climate nonsense and gifts to foreign, also dictatorial regimes, (friends of the dems), who wanted to get the dems through the senate, they used the relief plan as a wheelbarrow.
They sent him (Trump) that 6,000-page parcel and he should get his signature right away?
Have you ever read a 6,000-page book, let alone 6,000 pages full of legal jargon?
Trump counted on the Republicans to stand up.
What do those Democrats, those elitist corrupt career politicians want from Trump?
That he gives them a gift for their efforts to make his life miserable for four years, including impeachment on a made-up Russian collusion?
He's right to say $ 600 is peanuts and far too little.
The American people could have gotten the money months ago, if the dems had indeed kept the law separate and not packed into a 6,000-page package that has absolutely nothing to do with relief for their own people.
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@leedelaney70
"Every case of election fraud has been laughed out of court."
It is the job of the court to take electoral fraud seriously and not to laugh it off.
In most cases, they have not even looked at the evidence and dismissed it on absurd grounds, as "submitted late" or, in addition, "Objections to ballots in mail should be raised before the election and not after", etc.
The judicial system has clearly failed, which is a real shame.
They should have looked at it and then, if there was no fraud, they could have straightened it out.
That there was a turnout in multiple districts was stated on the official state website of, I think it was Michigan.
But when it was publicized, this data was removed from their site?
If nothing was wrong after all, why did they removed that data?
If you have nothing to hide?
Everything points to fraud, on various levels.
It's bulging of testimonies.
That the judicial system would not do its job, the fraudsters must probably have known in advance.
Apparently they were given carte blanche to do their thing.
But in their euphoria they made many mistakes, such as locking out supervisors during the counts, in mail ballots that, according to witnesses, were not even folded and had never been in an envelope, surveillance cameras that registered scanning of ballots while everyone was sent outside and that scanning was unsupervised, and so on.
The taint of fraud will stick to these elections forever if not looked at.
The Democrats have clearly used the most extreme and reprehensible means of getting rid of the non-career politician, in favor of a senile puppet who, when he speaks in his second sentence, does not remember what he said in his first sentence. .
If something like this happened in my country, I wouldn't be able to live with it, whatever political preference I have.
I predict that if this incapacitated senile man is inaugurated, he will not stay in his position long.
Those who pull the strings of this puppet will see to it that after a while he will resign (on medical grounds) and then the radical extremist Marxist individuals of the party can do their thing.
These are going to be dark times for the US.
Where a large part of the population will have lost confidence in fair elections.
By the way, the riots and occupations of entire neighborhoods in Democratic-run cities, by antifa and black live matters extremists, was not set up by Trump, but tolerated by the Democrats with their radical arm and their "defund the police" nonsense.
Depicted in the media as "peaceful demonstrations" while in the background entire shops were burning and there were deaths, including children, to be mourned.
I need not tell you that I have a very low opinion of politicians, including politicians in my own country.
But I am observing what is happening in the US from abroad with open mouth and disbelief.
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@ilonkastille2993
I'm afraid you're right.
Indeed, involving 1919 and 1945 has nothing to do with it.
That's ancient history from another era.
The fact is now that these neo-feudalists of "The Great Reset" are misusing these institutions like the UN, WHO, IPCC and the like to achieve their goal.
If an anti-globalist leader in any country stands up to these plans, like Trump in the US, you see what happens.
There are forces and interests at play that we cannot imagine.
Soros stated at the latest World Economic Forum in Davos; "The Trump administration will disappear."
That's how confident they are of their cause.
If they can get it off in the US, they can get it anywhere.
Democratic elections, if still held, will be a farce, meant only to dazzle and distribute the posts at the local level.
The powerful at the top of the pyramid will determine everything.
The plebs at the bottom of the pyramid won't even know who's at the top.
At some point, their power will be so great that any single country that tries to resist will not stand a chance, armed or unarmed.
It will be isolated and / or crushed.
No matter how beautiful they try to present it with their Reset plans, a human life will be unimportant to these people.
The coming generations will find themselves in a kind of Orwellian situation in which everyone distrusts everyone.
A situation that is necessary to nip any resistance in the bud.
Far fetched?
For the sake of future generations, I hope I am wrong.
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@omegamale5392
Don't put things in my mouth that I didn't say.
I'm just saying that the people had nothing else to listen to.
That was the intention of the regime.
One-sided reporting, propaganda, indoctrination and brainwashing.
My parents and grandparents were not allowed to listen to the BBC during the occupation.
If you were caught doing that, you could be arrested and worse.
The Nazis also tried to cancel the BBC by using powerful jammers.
Do you kind of see the analogy?
So, if they want to silence someone with a different opinion, you can bet that something isn't right.
That alone should trigger you to critical thinking.
Don't be afraid, it doesn't hurt at all.
As for your explanation of the radical left, etc.
Your political views don't really interest me.
I have a distaste for politics and since the media has been bribed all the way, plain and simple, to propagate the government narrative, I've lost faith in the media too.
“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
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@praytopesci2794
Your position to cancel Rogan is clearly a consequence of your political convictions, I can see that from your reactions.
I don't feel like bickering about politics at all, and certainly not your political beliefs.
I hate and dislike politics and especially politicians.
The judgment of you, who know nothing about me, that I am not the right tool in the shed, I leave that to you.
So, no, I don't feel like discussing your political nonsense.
I don't feel like arguing with indoctrinated and prejudiced people at all.
But when it comes to the right of free speech (a fundamental right), you know my opinion.
Just think, if your political ideology convinces you to violate a fundamental right, then something is clearly wrong.
Either with your political ideology, or your interpretation of it.
Or do you want to end up in some kind of Soviet society?
For there such things, which you approve, were commonplace.
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@praytopesci2794
Do you get angry?
Your dogmatic thinking starts to play tricks on you.
Did I ever say you wanted to cancel Rogan?
According to the information I have, it's that haughty artist.
No, you openly declare here that you approve and stand behind it.
Well, that's your freedom-robbing point of view, your hatred for a dissenter is clearly visible in your reactions.
Accepting the opinion of another does not seem to fit your dogmatically ideologically indoctrinated brain.
Too bad for you.
As for Rogan, again I don't know him, nor that Peterson you're talking about.
But apparently they must have an opinion or have said something that bothers you so much that they have to lose their fundamental rights for it.
According to you, right?
And, since you like to scold so much, allow me.
How foolish can you be to call liberty and free speech political?
It is a fundamental right, which is precisely intended to protect us from politicians?
Have you not noticed that it is politics and politicians who have seriously violated fundamental rights in the past two years.
Moreover, have incited people against each other, divided them into two camps, vaxers and antivaxers, created apartheid and flooded us with propaganda and lies through the media.
And you want me to look up to politicians?
It disgusts me and people who rave about it like you are not high on my list of intelligence.
Good heavens wake up man and get out of your dogma
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@dalstein3708
Mijn persoonlijke mening is, in 2016 werden ze koud gepakt.
Ze hadden nooit gedacht dat zoveel misnoegde burgers op Trump zouden stemmen en dat Clinton zou verliezen.
Ze hebben nadien geprobeerd om Trump af te zetten, door verzonnen Russische collusie waarmee ze de vier jaar van zijn Presidentschap verziekt hebben.
Tijdens die vier jaar maakten ze hun bed op en waren ze vastbesloten dat ze zoiets (een verkiezingsnederlaag) niet meer zouden laten gebeuren.
Koste wat het kost, ze zouden alle zeilen bijzetten.
Het globalisme dat ook onze politiek en media heeft aangetast en beïnvloed, is een zeer machtig iets.
De rijksten der aarde zitten erachter.
Deze mensen doen nu al zo goed al wat ze willen.
Maar het is nooit genoeg voor deze lui en de democratie, die eigenlijk een schijntje is van wat het zou moeten zijn, is een hinder, een sta in de weg voor deze elite.
Stapsgewijs en onbewust worden we naaar de agenda van het WEF geleid.
Onze politici zitten mee in dat bootje en de media werkt gedwee mee.
De democratie, die zoals ik zei, eigenlijk maar een schijntje is van wat ze zou moeten zijn, wordt gaandeweg verder uitgehold.
Een voorbeeld hiervan is de afschaffing van het referendum.
Rutte sprak ooit in één van zijn toespraken over "de nieuwe wereldorde".
Hij mag dat zeggen, maar als wij het doen zijn we complotdenkers.
The Great Reset is geen slogan van complotdenkers, maar van het WEF, die op hun eigen website hun plannen promoten.
Hun plan is een soort neo-feodale structuur, waar de elite aan de top van de piramide zit en alles zal bepalen voor wat onder die top zit.
Onnodig te zeggen dat democratie in zo'n structuur geen plaats heeft.
Hun rolmodel is China, waar zo'n structuur al op poten staat.
"Je zult niets bezitten, maar je zult gelukkig zijn" is de slogan van het WEF.
Nee, dit is geen slogan die bedacht werd door complotdenkers.
De agenda van die elitaire (rijken) van het WEF is 2030.
De vraag is, gaan we deze mensen kunnen stoppen.
Ik sta stom verbijsterd als ik zie wat er met de verkiezingen gebeurde in de VS.
Dit is toch een echte farce.
Een vrouw in een telbureau verklaarde dat ze stembiljetten die per post waren binnengekomen moest nakijken en in een scanner steken.
Ze vond het vreemd, dat deze brieven (stembiljetten) nooit geplooid waren, er zaten geen vouwen in.
Het was vlak papier wat nooit in een omslag kon gezeten hebben.
Er zijn tal van getuigenissen van onregelmatigheden, met verklaringen op eer van mensen die verbolgen waren over de gang van zaken.
"No evidence" wordt er geroepen.
Zelfs al moest nog 95% van al deze claims ongegrond zijn, dan zou er nog 5% moeten overblijven.
Maar niets?
Er zijn zelfs kiezers van de Democratische partij die denken dat er gefraudeerd werd.
Er spelen duistere krachten en als men van de verkiezingen in de VS een farce kan maken, waar dan niet?
We zullen zeer sterk op onze hoede moeten zijn als we onze democratie en democratische rechten willen verdedigen.
Democratie is een fragiel iets en staat voortdurend onder druk.
We hebben het afgelopen jaar wel gezien hoe makkelijk onze democratische rechten onder de mat worden geschoven.
Het zou onze ogen moeten openen, want het lijkt wel een testcase te zijn van hoever ze nu al met ons kunnen gaan.
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@Fergus-H-MacLeod
For proper functioning of the immune system, the recommended dose by the health authorities is way too low.
It may prevent rickets, but to boost the immune system and thus protect yourself against infections, these amounts are completely insufficient.
I take 10,000 IU of vitamin D3 daily and 5,000 IU in the summer.
Vitamin K2mk7 200 µg daily
Zinc 20 mg daily
Vitamin B12 1,000 µg daily, because older people like me absorb less of it from food.
I also take magnesium regularly.
Not only do cold symptoms stay away, but also my bowel function works much better now, no more constipation.
This is not insignificant, since poor digestion can be the cause of many ailments and can also affect other organs, liver, kidneys, etc.
I feel really good and the only thing I regret is that I didn't start sooner.
Because I used to suffer from long-lasting colds, especially in winter.
I don't take vitamin C because I eat enough fresh fruit and vegetables.
I may have been infected a few times during all that time, but if there are no symptoms, it goes unnoticed, doesn't it?
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@Toooldforthisshite
That frustrated me too, but he always based himself on the official data.
Data that now appears to be questionable, to say the least.
And, how many so-called medical professionals have not done so?
Who, like John, also supported government measures, lockdowns, mouth masks, you name it?
We are now almost two years after the start of these ′′ so called ′′ vaccines and a lot has already come out..
Personally, I think what the governments have done is much worse.
It is now gradually becoming clear to everyone that the "experiment" has gone seriously wrong.
Even today, governments refuse to face this reality and, along with the complicit media, remain silent about this debacle.
The governments and the media are the main culprits and certainly also the media platforms that censored the dissenting voice.
John still has to weigh his words because of possible censorship on this platform.
I'm not even talking about the government's polarization of vaccinated against unvaccinated people, which has broken even years of friendships between people.
Unimaginable.
If you would have stated in 2019 that this was going to happen, you would have been declared crazy.
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@smittykoi
Well, I also had it often after the flu too.
The symptoms were gone after a few days, but I still felt weak for a long time afterwards.
After all, your body is going through an ordeal, which usually causes you to lose a few pounds as well.
This applies to any serious illness and should certainly not be underestimated.
It is also the reason why weakened elderly people often die from the flu.
Strange only that everyone seems to consider "that" as normal, but not as far as covid is concerned.
Those who talk about "long covid" should know that "long influenza" also exists, so it is nothing new.
Besides, for the people who favor this (experimental) vaccine, well, the vaccine is supposed to trigger the immune system.
It is not the (so-called) vaccine, (if it works at all), but ultimately the immune system that does the job.
That is why also "they" have an interest in a well-functioning immune system.
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@barcodeman3071
Ik had dit hier eerder al eens ergens gepost, maar ik doe het hier nog maar eens ter uwer behoeve:
98% van de bevolking heeft niets te vrezen van dit virus.
De overige 2% die eventueel complicaties kan krijgen, zijn eigenlijk mensen die al ziek zijn, wat zeg ik, "die al een ernstige aandoening hebben/hadden".
Deze mensen zouden ook problemen kunnen krijgen bij griep of verkoudheid.
Deze groep van 2% mensen had men in bescherming moeten nemen.
Maar dat heeft men niet gedaan.
Schande.
Niks ebola of wat dan ook.
Toch zijn er mensen, (schapen), die in deze nonsens blijven geloven.
De propaganda lijkt heel effectief te zijn, dankzij de medewerking van de mainstream media, die voor de gelegenheid van de overheid financiële steun, (zogenaamde coronasteun-maatregelen), kreeg om de overheidspropaganda kritiekloos te verspreiden (spuien).
Dat de zorg overbelast kan raken is niet de schuld van het virus, maar van de overheid die de zorg kapot-bezuinigd heeft.
Nu is er geen marge (noodzakelijke overcapaciteit) meer in geval van ramp of epidemie.
Heel dat opgezet spel is een regelrechte schande en aanfluiting van onze burgerrechten.
Sorry, maar ik kon het niet laten om mijn gal te spuwen.
P.S: Dit virus is op geen enkele manier te stoppen.
Het zal blijven rondwaren tot de groepsimmuniteit onder de bevolking hoog genoeg is.
Zo gaat het met al dat soort virussen.
Als deze maatregelen al enig effect zouden hebben, dan is het dat ze dit proces vertragen, waardoor het langer duurt eer we het einde van de tunnel bereiken.
Toch jammer dat we deze wetenschap in de media niet te horen krijgen.
Nu, wat er achter deze hele onzinnige politiek van de regering(en) zit, weet ik niet.
Maar kloppen doet het langs geen kant.
Geen wonder dat er dus mensen zijn die een verklaring gaan zoeken, nietwaar?
Via de media hoef je het (de waarheid) niet te verwachten, want die heulen mee met het stilaan totalitaire bewind.
De schapen die deze totalitaire nonsens slikken, voelen wel dat ze zich als schaap gedragen en gaan dan mensen die niet in de kudden meelopen, op aangeven van de media, dan ook maar als komplotdenkers wegzetten.
Maar, eigenlijk is het een compliment, want in het woord "komplotdenker" komt het werkwoord "denken" voor.
Iets waar een schaap duidelijk moeite mee heeft.
Probeer ook eens te denken, het doet heus geen pijn, hoor.
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@barcodeman3071
The World Health Organization, een betrouwbare bron?
Waren het niet zij die zeiden dat de sterfte-rate 3,5% was?
Terwijl het uiteindelijk slechts 0,23% blijkt te zijn.
Beweerden zij in januari niet bij monde van Tedros dat het niet van mens op mens overdraagbaar was?
En nadat Trump op 31 januari de grens sloot voor alle verkeer uit China, die Tedros dan ook kwam via de media verklaren dat reisrestricties niet nodig waren?
Deze mensen (WHO) veranderden ook de definitie van pandemie.
Waarom?
De mate van onzinnigheden en tegenstrijdigheden die deze mensen (WHO) al verspreid hebben grenst aan het ongelofelijke.
Die Tedros, een goed vriendje van de Chinezen, was in China eind december/begin januari en hij verklaarde dat er niets aan de hand was.
Maar volgens mij wist hij drommels goed wat er in China gaande was, maar hij probeerde het allemaal te verbloemen.
Wat ik hier vertel, daar zijn die beelden hierover op YouTube nog te vinden.
Jij wil dat ik geloof wat deze mensen uitkramen?
Laat me niet lachen.
Nee, niet na al die tegenstrijdigheden, die klaar en duidelijk aantonen dat dit niets meer met wetenschap te maken heeft, maar alles met politiek.
Wat WhatsApp is weet ik niet.
Dat is me onbekend, net als een Twitter-account, of een facebook-account.
Dit zijn dingen die mij vreemd zijn.
Dat het aantal doden door corona sterk opgeklopt is, daar twijfel ik geen ogenblik aan, dit hoef je mij niet duidelijk te maken.
In mei/juni 2020, de precieze datum weet ik niet meer, ontmoette ik iemand die in een rusthuis voor bejaarden werkt.
Nieuwsgierig als ik was, vroeg ik hem hoe de situatie daar verlopen was, in verband met corona.
Hij zei me "We hebben in ons rusthuis nog geen enkele corona besmette gehad".
"Maar", zei hij, "alle doden die er vanaf half maart gevallen zijn in ons rusthuis, kregen de stempel coronadode".
Nu ken ik een aantal mensen die in ziekenhuizen werken en als ik die bevraag, zeggen ze vrijwel allen dat er in hun ziekenhuis weinig corona-patiënten liggen.
Toch wel opmerkelijk, nietwaar?
Bovendien raakte ik (in mei) zelf ook besmet met het virus.
Ik werd besmet door een vriend waarmee ik enkele klussen had opgeknapt.
Waar liep hij het virus op?
Hij werd besmet door zijn schoonvader die (coronavrij) opgenomen werd voor een behandeling in het ziekenhuis en daar (in het ziekenhuis) de besmetting opliep.
Ik ben 66 en de (zieke) schoonvader van mijn vriend (82) en mijn vriend (49), we overleefden allemaal de ziekte.
Ik kan erbij vertellen dat ik in m'n leven van griep al veel erger ziek geweest ben.
Mijn vriend en zijn vrouw werden samen met zijn schoonvader twee weken in quarantaine gezet, omdat ze daar logeerden om hun zieke vader bij te staan.
Ik heb mezelf thuisgehouden.
Nu, als je de media moet geloven vallen de mensen dood om ons heen.
Maar ondanks dat ik persoonlijk met het virus geconfronteerd werd, ken ik niemand in mijn kennissenkring die eraan overleden is.
Misschien heb ik wel een kleine kennissenkring.
Dat zou ook een mogelijk verklaring kunnen zijn.
Nu, wat je wensen voor de feestdagen betreft, daar zal weinig pret aan te beleven zijn, nietwaar?
Dus, prettige feestdagen kan ik je jammer genoeg niet wensen, maar wel een goede gezondheid, dat wel.
En veel plezier op "WhatsApp " or what so ever.
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@john.p7370
Inderdaad.
"The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world" - Professor Klaus Schwab van het World Economic Forum.
Typ gewoon in Google "World Economic Forum" en je komt op HUN OFFICIELE site.
"Ze Greet Reeset" zoals die Schwab met zijn verschrikkelijk Duits accent het probeerde in het Engels te zeggen.
De huidige bewindslieden, zoals Rutte en consoorten, zijn eigenlijk maar meelopers, bruikbare idioten, die zullen beloond worden voor hun bereidwilligheid en medeplichtigheid.
Als de plannen van deze elitaire rijken der aarde werkelijkheid worden, kunnen we onze democratie wel vaarwel zeggen en gaan we terug naar een soort (modern) feodaal systeem, waarbij op het topje de machtige rijken zitten die alles zullen bepalen.
De nieuwe wereldorde, zoals Rutte ooit in één van zijn toespraken zijn mond voorbijpraatte.
De (gehersenspoelde) schapen zullen op gegeven moment tot de vaststelling komen dat ze met hun kudde in het slachthuis staan.
Het zal dan te laat zijn om terug te keren, want de deur zal achter hun rug dichtgevallen zijn.
Democratie is een kwetsbaar iets dat altijd onder druk staat.
In een democratie worden de (verkozen) bewindslieden geacht de wil van het volk uit te voeren en niet omgekeerd.
Democratie beperkt echter de vrijheid van de machtigen en rijken.
Ze doen nu al zo goed als wat ze willen, maar voor deze mensen is het nooit genoeg.
Ze willen de absolute macht en controle.
Democratie is een fragiel iets.
De democratie moet steeds opnieuw verdedigd worden, omdat ze langs alle kanten aangetast, aangevreten, aangevallen en ondermijnd wordt.
Je hoeft maar naar de wereldgeschiedenis te kijken.
We moeten steeds op onze hoede zijn en blijven.
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@grammarofficerkrupke4398
Ivermectin is safer than Aspirin, if the prescribed dose is not exceeded.
Virtually no side effects have been reported in the years that the drug has been on the market.
I think the vaccines that have been hastily thrown on the market have already caused more and more severe side effects and permanent damage than Ivermectin.
It can be checked on VAERS.
Indeed, Ivermectin is most effective when administered at the first covid symptoms.
So, before one ends up seriously ill in the hospital.
There was a study that was actually done completely wrong.
It was a clinical trial, in other words, people who were already so sick that they were in the hospital.
One group was given Ivermectin at a dose that exceeded four times the maximum prescribed dose.
Which in itself is asking for trouble, and besides, the treatment started too late.
The patients were already in an advanced stage.
Another group received nothing or a placebo, so no harmful dose.
This study apparently aimed to discredit Ivermectin.
Hydroxychloroquine was not allowed to be prescribed off-label in some countries against deadly covic-19, but it may be prescribed off-label to relieve (non-lethal) pain in rheumatism patients.
Incomprehensible.
As for virologists, well, as we've seen for a year and a half now, they've already missed the mark on more than one occasion.
I tend to believe people who work in the field and get results.
I would rather call them epidemiologists, rather than virologists, who seem to live in a (lab) bubble.
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@barryschwarz
I was also surprised by the openness of Minister Franck Vandenbroucke about the figures.
I don't know when or how, but he may have revealed the numbers during a live broadcast and it apparently went viral on Facebook and Twitter.
I don't know, because I don't have a Facebook nor Twitter account, but I did see the video here on YouTube.
Apparently they couldn't get the shit back in the horse.
But the media usually lies by omission.
A propaganda trick from the box of tricks that was also frequently used by the Nazis.
It is clear that the media has become the mouthpiece of the government since the government caused this crisis.
The media (press) that normally has to control the government and be critical, is anything but.
For example, I have never heard from the media that the vaccines are still in the experimental stage phase 3.
Essential to inform people that they are participating in an experiment.
According to the Nuremberg Code, it is illegal to perform experimental treatments on people without their explicit consent.
The media is complicit in covering up this information.
I don't know where you get that 1 out of 9 in your frantic efforts to justify the numbers.
97% would be the protection against hospitalization.
That would mean that virtually no vaccinated people should be in hospital
The population is not 100% vaccinated.
But even with an 80% vaccination rate, hospitals would not be able to fill up.
But if we are to believe the fear mongering of the government through their mouthpiece, the media, it is due to unvaccinated people.
While they only represent 30% of the hospitalized.
So, you're still missing the point.
With an effectiveness of 97%, the number of vaccinated hospitalized should be close to zero.
The full hospitals (if that is to be believed) are only 30% filled with unvaccinated covid patients.
So it is a blatant (media) lie that the unvaccinated are responsible for those "full" hospitals.
You're trying to convince me otherwise, but the fact that they (the government) are talking about a third jab speaks volumes, doesn't it?
The effectiveness of the vaccines is not what they have been telling us and certainly not what the vaccine manufacturers have claimed.
But they got a waiver of liability anyway, so who cares.
In the meantime, the governments (with our tax money) are buying even more of those vaccines and the cash registers of the pharmaceutical companies keep ringing.
Less than a year of vaccinations, three shots and up to the fourth jab.
Where will this madness end?
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@jerrycann9072
Maybe because Germany is a neighbor and Hottentots, Boedisten, ect. are far away, as far as I'm concerned.
Also because my parents and grandparents suffered under the Nazi occupation, fortunately I wasn't born yet.
But intolerance now goes very far, doesn't it.
Even if I give an example, it is no longer possible for me to choose the "example" myself.
I think stigmatizing people is wrong, just as you see today that people are stigmatized as "white supremasists" because they are white.
This is one of the worst forms of racism, because the people who do this use the race card for political ends.
Yet you don't hear anything else these days.
Disgusting.
Now, back on topic, depriving people of (human) rights because they are not vaccinated and granting those rights to people with a vaccination card, is discrimination and stigmatization, discrimination first class, it is completely wrong and completely against human rights .
Yet there are people who defend this.
It indicates how badly one has slipped into this fear psychosis.
As Professor Matias Desmet said, "People in anxiety psychosis can be coaxed into anything and are capable of anything."
"Their gaze is so narrowed that they only see the fear object."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOLhF9fyjkk&t=1937s&ab_channel=DeNieuweWereld
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@jerrycann9072
You asked me why "you people", with which you placed me in a group, of which I cannot see in your brain who you actually mean by this group "you people".
Nevertheless, I tried to give you an honest answer, given that indeed my parents and grandparents suffered under the occupation of the Nazis and it were the Nazis who stigmatized the Jews.
I also know this from the stories my grandparents and parents have told me.
I cannot say more than what actually happened.
I can't reverse or rewrite history as some try to do.
When you ask a question, it implies you're waiting for an answer, doesn't it?
If you don't like that answer, well, that's your problem.
But yes, maybe I should not have answered your nonsensical question: "why you people".
Quote: "Doesn't work."
Apparently it works, judging by your reaction.
So I will stick to my example to use the Nazis as an example and will also stick to the rest of my speech, whether you like it or not, I don't care, that is your problem.
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@steviegbcool
So?
In a population of how many?
Was it mentioned that they died "only" from covid19 and they had no other conditions such as diabetes, obesity, and the like?
How many do you think die from a normal flu every year?
How many died from the flu pan / epidemic in 2018?
In fact, more people died from the flu in 2018 than from this virus.
Despite the vaccines out there for flu.
Even vaccinated people then fell ill and died, because respiratory virus vaccines are unreliable, due to the constant mutation of such viruses.
Still, people are vaccinated against influenza with vaccines that are hoped to protect the elderly, the weak, the sick.
But it does not offer any guarantee, because a variant / mutant can always emerge that is not in the vaccines.
Again, a mouth mask does not protect against a virus.
It is noteworthy that government media propaganda never talks about the adverse consequences of wearing a (non-medical) face mask for hours, which are stated on the packaging that they offer no guarantee of protection against the covid19 virus.
As you reason, we have to walk around with a mouth mask all our lives, with a morbid form of fear of contamination that is talked to us by the government and media propaganda.
Act normal for once and accept that life comes with risks.
School-age children are more at risk in daily life (traffic) than the numbers you mention.
The fact that healthy young people under 50 are at virtually zero risk unless they are already sick makes this virus much less bad than the flu virus, no matter what the propaganda leads us to believe.
Because flu affects all age groups equally.
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@steviegbcool Critical thinking?
Well, to begin with, I will not let myself be influenced by the state propaganda and the media that play a very nasty part in it.
In my country, more people died from influenza in 2018 than from the current corona virus.
To repeat it over and over again, "a mouth mask does not protect you".
Science found out about this years ago, and even to date there is no scientific evidence that there would be any positive effect.
The only effects are negative.
So, in my opinion, people who are so brainwashed that they believe in that nonsense are the ones who cannot think critically.
You are clearly not a Trump supporter, you probably may even be suffering from TDS.
But as a non-American I don't care.
I know that Trump closed the border with China and banned people from that country from entering the US since January 31, when Tedros was still raving about nothing is going on.
But the US President was smart enough to notice that despite Tedros's "good news show", there was something not kosher over there in China.
Hence his "early" decision.
The President was accused of being Xenophobic because of his early decision.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGjiCWOxco&ab_channel=TheDailyShowwithTrevorNoah
A few days later, in early February, Tedros stated, in response to Trump's decision, that there was no danger and that travel restrictions were not necessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja1lL_f846o&ab_channel=SouthChinaMorningPost
And Nancy Pelosi went for a walk (without a mask) in China Town with the (propaganda) press to ostentatiously illustrating that nothing was wrong and that Trump was exaggerating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFCzoXhNM6c&ab_channel=KPIXCBSSFBayArea
A few weeks later, Tedros comes with this statement, a turn of 180 degrees: "Time to pull out all stops".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9hYkoZH7yo&ab_channel=APArchive
And I cannot think critically?
Ha, ha, ha, don't make me laugh.
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@steviegbcool
By the way, I have never mentioned a "democratic hoax" in my comments.
My comments were mainly about the mouth mask and its ineffectiveness.
I only commented on Trump because it was suggested that Trump would have done nothing to stop the spread of the virus.
Moreover, I understand that it is the governors of the States who must take control in such cases and not the President.
He can provide logistical assistance, for example sending a hospital ship to Democratic Governor-controlled and hard-hit New York.
Hospital ship that incidentally remained unused.
The criticism is therefore totally misplaced and unjustified.
Criticism sent out by the mainstream media, almost all of whom in the US are pro-Democrat and anti-Trump.
The hilarious thing about it is that the rest of the world's mainstream media, knowingly or unknowingly, is spreading that same propaganda over its people.
But rest assured, my suspicion in the media did not start with the election of Trump, but more than 50 years ago, when the press regularly circulated reports that we were heading for an Ice Age.
After the 1980s it changed into "global warming".
Since then, the media has been talking about this fabrication almost every day.
If the press / media is hitting the same nail every day, be sure it's propaganda and there's an agenda behind it.
As an Australian I would pay attention, by voting for left-wing politicians over and over again, China already has a finger in the pie in Australia in many strategic places.
This thanks to the cooperation of your left-wing politicians, who are unnoticeably squandering Australia to the Chinese.
A tactic that the Chinese apply not only in Australia, but also in Africa.
A form of colonialism, by binding the countries in those regions with outstanding debts, which become so large that they can never pay them back.
But you are well on your way to adapting to the Marxist police state.
I find the images of what is currently happening in Australia hallucinatory and a mockery of human rights.
Especially in Queensland and Victoria.
A degrading dictatorship.
Not that I value the politicians in my own country, no, I have an aversion to politics.
Aversion that continues to grow daily despite my advanced age.
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@SkenonSLive
On billions of people, without their consent, because they are ignorant that these vaccines are still in the Phase 3 experimental stage until at least the end of 2023.
Developing a safe vaccine takes about 7 to 12 years, in order to also study its long-term effects.
Something that couldn't possibly have happened with these vaccines, which were launched on the market in a matter of months.
These vaccine manufacturers were exempted from responsibility by the "governments" when things go wrong.
If adverse effects should appear in the longer term, you are completely on your own.
You unknowingly participated in a medical experiment, which was also pushed by your own government and pushed down your throat.
Or rather, stabbed in your arm.
The government also shrugged off responsibility for the narcolepsy cases that emerged after the swine flu vaccinations.
They claimed it had not been shown to be due to the vaccinations.
Yet the government in the Netherlands stopped vaccinating and millions of vaccines were burned.
Since these mRNA vaccines are being applied to humans for the first time, some caution would not have been misplaced before mass vaccination was started.
Especially when you know that application to animals with this mRNA technique did not go well.
Phase 3 until at least the end of 2023 and then phase 4 of the experimental stage will start.
When does it end?
Well, you tell me.
Hopefully there will be no long-term effects such as leukemia or autoimmune diseases.
I don't wish anyone bad luck, but I don't let my body be messed with.
My body is too dear to me, I only have one and take good care of it.
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The MEDIA works with:
Two measures two weights?
Two arguments contrary to each other?
Or what should you call such a thing?
Bias?
Partiality?
Hypocrisy?
Propaganda is bringing information that fits your booth and what does not fit in your booth is concealed.
When elderly people die, so to speak, "BY" corona, the fact that these people often already have serious life-threatening conditions is constantly being dismissed, hushed up, not mentioned, etc.
No, no, these people definitely died "BY" corona and nothing else.
But look now!
Some elderly people already died after receiving the vaccine.
Some a few hours after receiving the syringe.
Now suddenly "YES" the excuse is being used that these people were ALREADY sick AND definitely did NOT die from the vaccine, BUT because of their life-threatening illness they already had.
Well well well.
I don't know if the mainstream media is paying attention to it and keeping a counter of the number of vaccination deaths, as they do for the number of (so-called) corona deaths.
No, oh no, because these people didn't die from the vaccine, no, no, no.
NOT a counter, because they died from their life-threatening illness and NOT from the vaccine.
Something that is not the case with corona, isn't it MEDIA?
However, there are news channels that do publicize those cases.
https://youtu.be/ErGQumwmZiA?t=468
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Is ventilation rubbish?
Research has indeed been done by, for example, an analyst in the Netherlands, named Maurice de Hond.
He couldn't understand that in a short time hundreds of people could suddenly become infected, the so-called mass infections.
This could not be done outside just by contact with one or two infected people.
Mass infections that happened in the south of the Netherlands at the very beginning of the corona epidemic, during the carnival that is celebrated there.
The mass contamination in Ischgl, Austria also caught his attention.
He analyzed the cases and quickly came to the conclusion that the infections had not happened outside on the street or on the ski slope, but inside the halls where the after parties or apres skies were held.
In those closed spaces, the air must have been contaminated by one or two people, as a result of which everyone who stayed in this space for a few hours was infected by inhaling the contaminated air.
In other words, they were breathing the virus in large quantities directly into their lungs, the most vulnerable place to covid19.
Not their hands, lips, nose or eyes, no, directly in the lungs.
In Ischgl even the man behind the bar (bartender) was infected.
Breathing in contaminated air, due to lack of ventilation, also happens in nursing homes and yes, even in hospitals.
The people (elderly) who sit in these retirement homes breathe in the same air almost 24/7, which may possibly be contaminated.
This is also one of the reasons that older people living at home are less at risk than older people in nursing homes.
So I wouldn't underestimate ventilation.
I myself (66) was infected with covid19 by a person (49) with whom I worked, who was in turn infected by his father-in-law (82) who lived alone but had contracted the infection in hospital, where he was admitted (corona free) for about 10 days for treatment unrelated to corona.
We have all survived the infection, even the seriously ill old man (82) who was quarantined with his daughter and son-in-law because they stayed in his house to assist the man in recovering from his illness, which had nothing to do with corona.
The infection was diagnosed at the old man's home about a week after his discharge from the hospital.
The people from the hospital spontaneously came to his home to perform the test.
It has never been admitted in so many words, but apparently something wasn't kosher in the hospital.
Maurice de Hond who is a good analyst, contacted (for help) virologists and epidemiologists worldwide, they confirmed his analysis that indeed with respiratory viruses, such as influenza, corona, etc., the infection can certainly happen through the air.
For example, a lot of people who are together in a very poorly ventilated room for a long time can become seriously infected (directly in the lungs) by inhalation.
I mention Maurice de Hond, but he is certainly not the only one who has studied this.
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@MegaAlex197
"Mais l incidence de myocardite se trouve surtout augmenté par le Covid pas tellement par la vaccination".
Étrange que nous n'ayons pas entendu parler de "ce" mythe avant le début des vaccinations, n'est-ce pas ?
Cependant, ils aimaient tellement nous faire peur à l'époque.
J'ai entendu parler de la myocardite pour la première fois dans les médias grand public (subordonnés), quelques mois seulement après le début des vaccinations (2021).
Là où ils ont en effet commencé à répandre le mythe selon lequel la miocardite est causée par le corona.
Il y a maintenant un excès de mortalité inouï, surtout chez les jeunes, dans presque tous les pays occidentaux (pays de vaccination).
Plusieurs fois plus élevé que lors de l'année "supposée" pandémique 2020.
Grande panique et alarmisme en 2020 avec toutes les restrictions draconiennes de nos droits fondamentaux.
Maintenant, il y a plus de morts qu'alors et que fait le gouvernement maintenant ?
Ils détournent le regard et refusent d'enquêter sur cette surmortalité.
Les fabricants de vaccins, en revanche, se rassurent, ils bénéficient de toute façon d'une exonération de responsabilité.
Mais qui va assumer la responsabilité maintenant que les choses menacent de mal tourner ?
Comment les gens peuvent être si crédules et prendre tout ce que les médias grand public ont diffusé de désinformation, et continuer à diffuser de désinformation, dépasse mon imagination.
À ce jour, je n'ai entendu aucune critique de la part de ces médias corrompus sur la politique corona, dans aucun pays ayant participé à cette folie (chinoise).
Cela seul devrait ouvrir les yeux même des plus crédules.
Mais non, le lavage de cerveau et la propagande sont toujours aussi efficaces qu'ils l'étaient dans les années 1930.
Il s'agit peut-être de l'un des plus grands scandales coordonnés au niveau international du complexe industriel médical de l'histoire.
Heureusement, petit à petit, de plus en plus commence à faire surface.
Mais entendrons-nous ou verrons-nous jamais toute la vérité ?
Ils feront tout pour le cacher.
Car, pendant ce temps-là, les textes que les sociétés pharmaceutiques (Pfizer, etc.) sortent pour les eurodéputés sont pour la plupart peints en noir.
Qu'ont-ils à cacher ?
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@rphb5870 The history of the United States cannot be compared with that of Europe.
Belgium is an artificial construction that was agreed upon at the time (around 1830) by the then geopolitical forces France, England, Prussia, in Europe.
It was doomed from the start by an elitist (non-democratic politicians and clergy) structure that ignored and disrespected the language of the majority of the population.
French had to be the official language, while the vast majority, including in Brussels, spoke Dutch.
My grandmother (who I never heard speak French) was born in 1890 in Brussels and did not go to school because there were no Dutch-speaking schools at the time.
Anyway, you can't change history, you can learn lessons from it, but politicians rarely do that, they make the same mistakes over and over again (out of their own interest).
Look at Africa and the cultural and tribal disputes, where the borders of the countries are still the same as those drawn haphazardly by the colonists at the time
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@marioenc04
I don't have a thesis on the sinovac vaccine at all.
I don't know where you get that from.
It is well known that the development of vaccines takes years, at least 5 to sometimes 20 years, to investigate all long-term effects.
I don't have to search for or give up sources for that.
This is well known and scientifically not disputed.
So, I don't know what you mean.
But if vaccines take years to be considered safe, then you don't have to be a genius to know and realize that these hastily marketed vaccines are not without risk.
The narcolepsy cases in 2009 showed that.
The Dutch government in 2009 stopped vaccinating and burned any remaining vaccines, but said there was no link to the narcolepsy cases.
Nevertheless, the government has paid compensation to certain persons.
This information is easy to find online, although some information is in Dutch.
Moreover, I have already followed many conversations with Dutch doctors, which will be of no use to you if you do not understand the language.
But many of these doctors say they would not take the vaccination, from these hastily developed vaccines.
They argue that the severity of the disease, with an IFR of only 0.23, does not outweigh the risks of the vaccination.
This is of course completely different with serious diseases, such as polio, smallpox or tetanus.
Let me put it this way, I was infected by the corona virus in May last year.
Despite my advanced age, 66, I had a chance.
I did have a mild fever, sore throat, cough and the worst of it was an unexplained fatigue that I had never experienced before.
We are now almost a year later and look, I'm still alive.
My father had a brother, my uncle.
Which I never knew, because he died of tetanus in 1939 at the age of eleven.
The boy had no chance at all.
The doctor said to my grandmother: "you know what pain is, you have already given birth to children, but the pain this boy is going through is beyond description".
With tetanus, every muscle in your body cramps, until eventually your heart muscle cramps and death puts you out of your misery.
Now, if you think I'm an anti-vacser, you're wrong.
I've been vaccinated against polio, smallpox and of course also tetanus, but not measles.
When I was a child, in the 1950s, that was not yet common and we just got all the childhood diseases that made us immune for the rest of our lives.
I respect Dr John Campbell, but the claim that vaccines will eradicate this virus is inconsistent with Professor Dr. Theo Schetters, who works in South Africa and also has several patents for vaccines on animals to his name.
According to Dr. Theo Schetters, even if one had to succeed in getting rid of this corona virus completely in humans, then the virus will continue to live on in the animal world among wild animals, including mustelids, and will reappear again and again under one or another variant .
In other words, we will have to learn to live with it.
Something that does not seem to have penetrated the authorities yet.
As Christine P described it earlier:
"These are EXPERIMENTAL vaccines, they've not been licensed, they received emergency use authorization only, and the manufacturerers have been indemnified from liability."
I couldn't have said it better.
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@gavinparks5386
Well, the person who infected me is younger than me, but he was infected by his 82-year-old father-in-law, who survived the infection.
Spicy detail: the father-in-law 82 contracted the infection in the hospital while he was there for an unrelated treatment.
So, the hospital is the place to be.
One more detail, none of my relatives, grandparents, parents, aunts or uncles ever turned 80.
The oldest was my maternal grandfather, who had the blessed age of 76 when he passed away in 1964.
So, what are we actually talking about?
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@rmakids
Well, I was infected with corona in May last year at the age of 66, survived and came out a stronger person, like I did after every viral or bacterial infection in my life.
When I was eight, which must have been in '62, I was infected with a bacterial intestinal infection, which gave me a fever of 41.1 ° C.
Almost deadly.
I was taken from the boarding school I was, in to the hospital, treated with antibiotics and quarantined in my hospital room.
That's how it went, the sick person was quarantined, not the healthy one.
Even the boarding school where I attended was not quarantined.
Now you get the absurd situation that healthy people are locked up, are not allowed to have contact with each other, the economy is going to collapse and the number of infections continues.
Judging from your response, the scare tactic and fear psychosis you are in, and which is fueled by media complicity, has clearly got you well.
Lock yourself in a forest, far from the people, no contact with people, sick or healthy, and hope that you don't catch a disease from some wild animal, if that makes you happy.
But after, say, 40 years, you will be a weakling, who will take the brunt of it at the slightest contamination, because you will be left with a weakened immune system that is not up to date and will abandon you completely and not be able to protect you.
Try to get out of your tunnel vision and turn your focus away from the fear object you are fixating on.
Maybe then, with a little good will of yourself, you will see that this whole vaccine situation is an outright experiment.
Remember that the lockdown is a political decision that has nothing to do with medical science.
I never went along with that fear story.
From the moment the lockdown was imposed, in my country on Friday, March 13, 2020, I knew they had gone mad.
I haven't been in it for a day.
I stayed sober all the time, even when I became infected myself.
And I'm still sober, while I watch the madness around me with open mouth.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
Finally someone with meaningful comments.
Still, I disagree with your conclusion.
You indicate that the long-term effects cannot be predicted.
However, suppose, only a hypothesis, that the vaccine triggers leukemia in, for example, 5% of the now vaccinated people within five years.
It would be an unprecedented catastrophe, even if the number were only 5%.
So what is happening now (my personal opinion) is actually playing Russian roulette with a large part of the population.
But that aside.
There is the disproportionate anxiety psychosis that has been/is being created around this coronavirus.
Now, for example, it is the new variants that add to and prolong the fear.
Is this really necessary?
Is it justified that the WHO placed the virus in category A, together with Ebola, for example?
According to that doomsday scenario, 3 to 4% of people would die from this virus, while if you take the current figures from the WHO and make the calculation, you get an IFR of 0.23%.
So it was based on a blatant lie.
But that was not the only lie, it was also said "It is a completely new virus that no people have any resistance against".
A second blatant lie.
It's all pretty clear to me.
Well, not all, I wonder is the WHY of all this, that is still not clear to me.
You cite the flu example yourself.
As a physician you will know that every autumn a flu shot is offered to those interested, this shot is a cocktail of 3 to 4 at that time "KNOWN" variants.
The variant that will emerge in the coming winter is usually "UNKNOWN".
But it is hoped for that this cocktail will form some defense against the coming variant.
Sometimes, however, things can go badly and the flu shot does not seem to provide the expected protection at all, as it happened in 2018.
When the hospitals were also overloaded and there were a large number of deaths, even people who had had the flu shot.
I respect medical science.
When you see the progress that has been made in, say, the last 200 years, it is enormous.
I will not say that medical science is "TOTALLY" powerless against these respiratory viruses, but for now, as they say in my language here it is, "Mop the floor with the tap open".
It may be clear that I am not in the anxiety psychosis caused by the WHO, the politicians and (especially) the media.
I will not let my brain be tainted by media propaganda.
When I watch or listen to the media, all I see is how they spin the story in a propagandistic way.
So I can think freely and openly, without fear psychosis.
But being able to express my opinion openly (a human right after all) that is something else.
You should see the list of swear words I've already gotten over me from mainly scared people.
Sad.
As a physician, you will (perhaps?) Be interested in what this man has to say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrZxCx6L6g&t=1229s&ab_channel=BLCKBX
English subtitles can be requested via the settings of the video.
He was immediately cracked after this broadcast by the mainstream media, who could not appreciate his opinion, because of course it does not support their fear-mongering.
He then came up with another broadcast, for which there are currently no English subtitles, in which he maintains his position and says that more attention should be paid to the risk groups.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
Usually I try to sort of prepare my answer since English is not my native language, but now I don't know where to start. LOL.
I base my reasoning and (personal) judgment, partly on data and other information, but also on my own (life) experience.
I will be 67 in a few months and once got the comment here in the YouTube comments from someone, that boomers have no life experience.
Anyway, first some observations.
The average age (death rates) of this virus would (according to the data), depending on country, be around 80 years.
Let this be the average life expectancy in our regions (Western Europe).
Someone recently said to me in a comment here that in the 80 year old age bracket you would have an IFR of 10%.
I don't know what that man relied on, nor have I disputed it, since I know that most of the victims are elderly.
But, if I look in my family (relatives), aunts, uncles, parents and grandparents, none of them have turned 80.
The oldest was my maternal grandfather, who passed away in 1964 at the age of 76.
Not that I don't want to turn 80, but then I have to wait and see.
Cancer played a big role.
My mother turned 56 and died of ovarian cancer.
Her brother, my uncle, turned 42 and died of colon cancer.
On my father's side, my grandmother turned 54 and died of a malfunctioning heart valve, which they might be able to replace now, but it happened in 1961 and then they couldn't help her.
My father's brother, an uncle (whom I never knew) died of tetanus in 1939 at the age of eleven.
My father died of throat cancer at the age of 72.
To which I add that for the last ten years of his life he was a wreck, he could no longer speak (aphasia), caused by a brain thrombosis.
He had also had a lung thrombosis, all complications he got after heart surgery (bypass).
My father was a drinker and heavy smoker, so he eventually died, not of the ailments he had suffered from for over ten years, but of a carcinoma of the throat, which appears to be typical of the combination of smoking and alcohol.
So he probably owes it to himself.
Why am I providing all this personal information?
To give you an idea, because of course it strongly influences how I view the subject of health and death.
I am not an anti-vaxxer at all and have been vaccinated against smallpox, polio and tetanus.
But, as you say, a human (individual) makes a risk assessment.
Of course, the IFR is very important, but also how great the risk is of contracting the disease.
Someone who works with horses a lot is more likely to get tetanus compared to someone who does desk work, does not do dirty and heavy work and rarely has injuries.
My personal (life) experiences certainly influence my judgment.
A very important point I have learned in my life is that fear is a "very" bad advisor.
In fear you sometimes make the most irrational, wrong and fatal irreversible decisions with far-reaching consequences.
I therefore guard myself against fear and will certainly not get carried away in a fear psychosis and certainly not if the focus is on one object, which creates a narrowing of the image and you lose all perspective and can no longer see, let alone judge the broader picture.
Now, and this is also because of my personal experiences, I have "no" great regard for politics and politicians.
I don't live in the Netherlands, but in the Netherlands, the government (politicians) has overhauled health care over the last ten to fifteen years and the number of hospital beds is now reduced to only 50% than it used to be, let's say 15 years ago.
As a result, for example, the Netherlands has only 1/4 of the number of hospital beds per inhabitant compared to Germany
So the lack of capacity in case of disaster or epidemic is caused by the austerity policy of the government.
This lack of capacity also manifests itself in a severe flu, such as in 2018, this also made the news, but strangely enough was not dramatized.
What I mean is, the hospital overload is not so much the fault of the virus as of a policy that has not taken all factors into account.
Is healthcare expensive?
Of course.
But is it wise to phase out health care at a time when life expectancy is high and rising, so that you can expect more sick and dependent people?
I think the question answers itself.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
Yes, the information about Israel, Dr. John talked about that too.
Too bad you haven't added a link as far as that study is concerned.
But first of all, the number of cases is declining not only in Israel, but worldwide, even in countries where there is no vaccination or no lockdown
So the virus is clearly on the wane, as the most vulnerable people have already been affected.
As always happens with these types of viruses.
I'd rather follow Professor Dr. Theo Schetters, that it is not necessary, even pointless, to inoculate the entire world population.
This virus cannot be eradicated, according to him.
Even if every human on Earth is vaccinated, the coronavirus will continue to circulate in the animal world, among the wild animal population.
Variants will therefore keep popping up, just as is the case with flu.
Will the whole world be put in lockdown over and over again and the entire world population be vaccinated again, each time such a variant appears?
Or is it not better, just as with the flu, to only protect the risk groups and possibly vaccinate them and leave the rest of the healthy population alone?
Respiratory viruses cannot be compared with, for example, measles.
These respiratory viruses mutate too easily.
It is one of the reasons why the pharmaceutical industry has never turned to vaccines for these types of viruses.
Developing a safe vaccine takes years.
By then the virus has mutated several times.
So it would be mopping with the tap open.
But vaccine manufacturers have now been relieved of responsibility by the governments in case things go wrong, and the governments have taken the responsibility. (That's we, the taxpayer).
But is it justified that the government plays Russian roulette with its population?
Of course, the pharmaceutical companies agree to annually vaccinate the entire world population with exemption from responsibility.
How would you react if you were a vaccine manufacturer?
In your previous passage you also talked about data.
Well, data is very useful for drawing conclusions, if the data is RELIABLE.
The doctors in Bakersfield, California, who received constant visits from journalists, held a press conference that also featured a TV station.
They talked about their experiences and also that the government had put pressure on them to list covid as the cause of death on death certificates as much as possible.
Why does the government do such a thing?
What is the importance?
I personally met someone in May/June last year, I don't remember the exact date, who works in a retirement home for the elderly.
I asked him, out of curiosity if they had not had too many problems due to corona.
He replied, "No, we didn't have any infection in our home yet, but every elder who has died since mid-March was given covid as the cause of death on the death certificate."
That is shocking data manipulation.
That's why I have a hard time, with all due respect, when Dr. John is drawing conclusions based on DATA.
Then I grind my teeth a lot.
I don't feel called to get vaccinated, especially because I was already infected with the virus and actually got the REAL stuff.
I (66) contracted it from a friend (48) with whom I had done some odd jobs.
He contracted the virus from his father-in-law (82), who contracted the virus in hospital when he was admitted for several weeks for non-covid related problems.
The man's general health was so weak (not due to corona) that they did not want/dared to operate him for a TURP operation (prostate) and they sent him home with a bladder probe.
At home, about a week later, he was diagnosed with corona, which he had most likely contracted in the hospital, because it was hospital staff who unexpectedly dropped into his home to do the test.
This says enough.
Despite the man being weak and 82, he survived the corona infection, his 48-year-old son-in-law and also I survived the infection.
To date I don't know anyone in my circle of acquaintances who has died of corona.
Recently my brother's daughter and her husband also became infected with corona.
They both had the same flu-like symptoms as I've had and recovered after a few days.
Their two small children did not develop any symptoms.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
Quote: "Do you believe the hospitals are full of coronovirus patients?" (sic).
I have already spoken to several people who work in a hospital.
They all say the same thing: "There are corona patients in our hospital, but the numbers are not too bad.
The media is very good at whipping up and dramatizing.
On the other hand, they are also good at withholding and concealing information.
For example, during the supposedly first corona wave in the spring of 2020, a TV station here in my country showed footage of a mass grave in New York that they had dug over there because they could no longer handle the influx of corona deaths (so to speak).
They showed images of a huge pit and a crane to dig that pit.
However, there were viewers who had a déjà vu.
They had seen those images before.
What turned out?
The images came from a report a few years earlier about homeless people in New York, long before the corona outbreak.
It turned out to be a mass grave in New York, however, not for corona victims, but it was a grave where New York City buries unidentified homeless people.
The TV station later apologized, after the large number of complaints they had received from viewers about these malpractices.
I no longer follow the news media and, incidentally, watch very little TV.
I do listen to a lot of radio, for the music, but when there is a news bulletin, I often cannot ignore it, or I have to switch off the radio.
I can hear it, but I only hear how they spin the news and I take the content with a fairly large pinch of salt.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
For me it is not a discussion, it is my opinion.
You moderated your statement in "work with your government", previously you said "fight your government".
You know, for that word "fight" and the phrase "for your rights and walk peacelfully to the congress to let your voice heard", they wanted to impeach Trump.
Dangerous to use the word "fight" in these crazy times.
Yes I may be talking about things outside of the vaccine, but it's all related.
The lockdown over WHO lies-induced panic would last only a few weeks.
Why do you think we're still dealing with that nonsense a year later?
Because the governments have reached an agreement with the vaccine manufacturers.
The anxiety psychosis had to be kept going.
The vaccine manufacturers were relieved of responsibility and meanwhile the economy was ruined.
"Work with my government?"
As if they listen to an ordinary citizen like me.
Never do I forgive the government for preventing me from practicing my profession a whole year and perhaps longer, NEVER.
A government is expected to serve the population and not to imprison (innocent) people.
I'm not saying you make those dictatorial decisions.
I just said, "You know these are dictatorial decisions?"
But from all your explanations, you seemed like a big supporter of those experimental vaccines and forced vaccination.
You even recommended that I get vaccinated.
So?
For the record, I'll try to make it clear again
I'm not an antivaxer, as the media these days insults people who don't want this experimental vaccine.
I have been vaccinated against smallpox, polio and tetanus, serious illnesses.
Safe vaccines, which have taken years to study their long-term effects.
Now you can spin and explain it as you want, but you cannot study long-term effects in a period of a few months.
As far as traveling is concerned.
After all I've been through in the past year, nothing surprises me anymore.
The government, acting like dictatorial rulers, is capable of anything.
They have now noticed how far they can go with us and apparently they have a taste for it.
A good advice to think about this fear psychosis is to listen to what the Belgian psychology professor Matias Desmet has to say about it.
Well, listen?
It's in Dutch, but English subtitles are available through the video's settings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOLhF9fyjkk&t=2793s
Good luck.
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@j.scottlaprise6063
Well, you don't have to apologize.
Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.
And I respect your opinion and point of view.
Besides, I know the language problem.
My mother tongue is not English either.
So I also have to translate and pay attention to how I formulate my sentences.
It is not always easy
Anyway, the lingua franca on the internet is English.
I have to say that I appreciate Dr. John's explanation when it comes to medical matters, but I have a very hard time with his political views on the strict measures.
He looks at it from a medical point of view, but society must be able to function, or we are doomed.
It's tunnel vision.
If we are going to lock up and punish everyone for every disease that comes up, where are we going to end up?
Life comes with risks.
Countless people die in traffic every year, yet we do not stop traffic.
We accept that risk.
Our ancestors were much more at risk for disease than we are, yet their society continued to run.
Now we have a madness that wants to rule out any risk.
People have gone so mad that they think they can control everything, that they have some kind of divine power.
But that's haughty.
If later, in 10, 20, or 30 years, they start looking back on this whole episode, I'm sure they'll label it as madness.
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@madedjrbatara1000
Quote: "But covid19 is a novel virus meaning almost 100% are not immune."
Total nonsense spread by WHO that put covid19 in Category A along with Ebola.
But nothing turned out to be further from the truth.
The WHO now indicates that for covid19 there is an IFR of 0.23%.
Which is in line with a serious flu.
Yet everyone has ended up in a fear psychosis and tunnel vision, disrupting the whole society and economy, so that the consequences will be many times worse in the coming years than the disease itself.
By the way, I am not worried, I was infected with the virus last May, at the age of 66 and must say that I have had much more serious symptoms from flu in my life, than this time from corona.
The person who infected me has also been ill and has recovered.
But his wife who took care of her corona-infected father and had to stay in quanrantaine with her corona-infected husband in that father's house, woman who also shared the bed with her infected husband, has not been ill at all and has had no symptoms.
My brother's daughter was also infected with the virus along with her husband.
They had pretty much the same symptoms as I have had, but their two children have not been ill at all.
So forget that fairy tale of "novel virus" and "100% 'NOT' immune".
Reality, meanwhile, has blatantly shown that the "truth" is quite different from the media and government propaganda.
If you are still walking around with that thought that was talked to us by the fear mongers, then you are really stuck in your tunnel vision.
I already know several people who have been infected with covid19, including myself.
But to date I don't know anyone in my circle of acquaintances who has died of it.
But, perhaps my circle of acquaintances is very small, that could also be an explanation. LOL.
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@ZeroThreeJuice
Ik moet waarschijnlijk per ongeluk op jouw naam geklikt hebben.
Maar goed, mijn reactie ging meer over de polarisatie, niet zozeer tussen twee partijen, maar tussen een deel van de bevolking en de overheid.
Ik volg de mainstreammedia ook niet meer.
Maar als je op YouTube zit, val je af en toe toevallig toch eens op iets en kun je 't niet laten om te reageren.
Als ik toevallig toch eens kijk, (naar nieuws op tv), bijvoorbeeld als de tv in de keuken opstaat, dan zie ik vooral het gespin.
Hiermee bedoel ik, hoe ze het nieuws spinnen en steeds van gekleurde commentaar en opinievorming voorzien.
Natuurlijk krijg je daardoor ook een polarisatie tussen enerzijds mensen die de lijn van de overheid en hun spreekbuis de mainstreammedia volgen, die voor de propaganda zorgen en een ander deel van de bevolking die er niets meer van gelooft en er de buik van vol heeft.
Waardoor soms de beste vrienden, die al een lange vriendschap hadden, in discussie gaan en in twee tegengestelde (polarisatie dus) kampen belanden.
Men zou kunnen zeggen, probeer het te relativeren, maar in de tijden waarin we nu verkeren heb ik er veel moeite mee om het allemaal te relativeren.
Ik vind het allemaal schrijnend en vraag me af of dit allemaal nodig is en welk nut het heeft en welk doel het dient.
Ik heb een groot gevoel dat het allemaal politiek is.
Maar dan nog...
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@connectingrabbitholes2506
Rutte wordt nochtans verondersteld een rechts-liberaal te zijn, maar als je zijn beleid ziet, puur marxistisch globalisme.
Dit zeg ik je vanuit België, waar onze rechts-liberalen ook helemaal naar links zijn opgeschoven.
Als je nog rechts wil stemmen, moet je voor extreem rechts kiezen, maar die worden in de mainstream media dan afgeschilderd als "extremisten".
De media heeft zijn onafhankelijkheid en neutraliteit verloren, ook hier in Europa.
Ze lijden aan het "Trump derangement syndrome" en zijn zijn een verlengstuk, een instrument geworden van de links-globalistische regeringen, die Amerika haten en het dictatoriale China ophemelen.
In Berlijn weet men het nog, maar in de rest van de Europa is men schandelijk vergeten dat we zonder de steun van Amerika onder communistische voet zouden gelopen zijn.
Ik hoop, ook voor ons in Europa, dat Trump het haalt in november.
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Thumbs up on this medical topic.
Much more interesting than the political positions on harsh measures, etc. that disrupt our society.
At the same time, the government is being exposed.
If they were really concerned about the corona epidemic and its victims, this drug should have been recommended months ago.
One of the safest drugs on the market and very effective.
Incomprehensible.
But then again not.
We by now know very well the government and media propaganda, lockdown, social distancing, curfew, mouth masks, closed businesses and VACCIN, VACCIN, VACCIN.
Appalling, abominable, disgusting, dictatorial, totalitarian and irresponsible policies.
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@petrusmaximus5363
Corona habe ich im Mai 2020 bekommen, bevor es (sogenannte) Impfstoffe gab.
Es war immer noch der ursprüngliche Wuhan-Stamm und ich hatte grippeähnliche Symptome.
Ich war ungewöhnlich und unerklärlich müde, was ich bei einer Grippe noch nie erlebt habe.
Ich höre oft von (mehrfach) Geimpften, dass sie eine viel schwerwiegendere Reaktion bekommen, wenn sie sich doch mit Corona infizieren.
Auch das wird nicht untersucht.
Nichts, aber auch gar nichts sollte der Impfbereitschaft im Wege stehen.
Es ist nicht nur eine Schande, sondern kriminell.
Die Regierung, die Pharmaindustrie, aber auch die Presse und die Mainstream-Medien machen hier einen sehr schlechten Job.
Meine Glaubwürdigkeit wurde durch die Haltung dieser Agenturen schwer beschädigt, so viel steht fest.
Ich nehme seit anderthalb Jahren jeden Tag eine gute Dosis Vitamin D und habe seitdem weder Fieber noch Halsschmerzen, Husten oder irgendetwas von einer Erkältung gehabt.
Ich fühle mich großartig und ich bin 68.
Ich wurde nicht mit diesen experimentellen Produkten geimpft.
Drei Spritzen, wie in Ihrem Fall, und sich trotzdem mit Corona infizieren, das kann man beim besten Willen nicht Schutz nennen.
Beste Wünsche und Kraft von einem belgischen (flämischen) Zuschauer.
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@metalpuppet5798 Yeah, the vaccines work 95%, don't they?
Do not make me laugh.
That's why so many people get infected and sick even after their fourth injection, including Biden and Fauci, etc.
That they get less sick is a fairy tale that we (ordinary citizens) cannot verify.
Besides, a vaccine is supposed to protect you from getting sick and if it doesn't even after "four" shots, you can't call that "a" vaccine, but crap with the only effect being side effects like myocarditis, etc.
The fear mongering that is being pushed down our throats by the governments and the (bribed) mainstream media is shocking.
It is psychological manipulation.
If you scare the population enough, you can manipulate them and move them into anything.
The same tricks that have been used by religions for centuries.
So nothing new under the sun.
It is dogmatically carrying out an agenda that has absolutely nothing to do with science.
That there are still people who don't see through that and still go along with that absurd narrative is shocking and at the same time pathetic naive.
P.S. that after 2.5 years of fundamental rights-violating measures and pushing and administering experimental stuff, there has still been no evaluation of the adverse effects of these measures and injections, should actually ring a bell with everyone.
But they will scrupulously avoid that, because that will ruin their entire applied strategy and they will have to justify themselves.
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