Comments by "Average Alien" (@AverageAlien) on "Hitler's Socialism: The Evidence is Overwhelming" video.
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@hobbso8508 Circular definition again. One could think that you have some sort of neurological condition that causes forgetfulness. I know better than that though, I know it's just your loyalty to your faith of socialism. Let me remind you. State = government = insert group here.
A government is a state, which is a group with similar political goals and shared ideology. Your little Marxist "workers" fall under that category.
It's a circular definition as in you're using state = government to avoid what a state and government actually is. Saying state = government is as much of a definition as saying "opposite of male is the same as female" or female = woman. A total deflection just to keep your blind faith in the religion of socialism alive.
The government = state = group with aligned ideology and political goals. Simple as that. When that group begins using violence to steal and get their way, they become socialist.
Okay I admit I got ahead of myself, I forgot I was talking to a leftist. I should probably dumb it down some.
You said: "the state will prevent the workers from owning the means of production"
That's great. You only forgot the fact that the workers are the state, in your little Marxist universe. Follow me so far? Recall the last few paragraphs? Okay good.
For your state of workers to be prevented from owning the means of production by another state, that would mean that there are two states with competing interests in the same country. Hence, civil war.
Let's clarify further, because I know words and sentences can be hard to follow sometimes.
PRIVATE SECTOR: Individual, or family unit.
PULIC SECTOR: The state, or collective.
PRIVATE OWNERSHIP: This means that an individual, like you, has obtained ownership of an object via original appropriation or contractual agreement with another private individual.
COLLECTIVE OWNERSHIP: This means that a large group, like say, the state, has seized control of something and own it as a collective.
SOCIALISM: When the collective/state/group/gang/mafia seize control of something via force. For example, taxation.
CAPITALISM: Private individuals engaging in consensual exchange of goods and services.
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@thenarkknight278 As expected, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and it's obvious you didn't even bother to watch the video, just plaster your uninformed and uneducated opinion everywhere.
Hitler was openly anti-capitalist, Hitler destroyed businesses through taxation and anti semitic excuses, with the intention to eventually remove all of the private sector. "He put it under the nazi ruling parties will" so you contradict your entire argument within a few sentences. If the state controls it, it isn't capitalism. This is why you should at least pick up a book or two before sharing your hilarious opinions online.
The nazis created the largest labour union that has ever existed. Removing rival unions is not evidence Hitler wasn't a socialist. This is a moronic argument. No "capitalists" prospered under nazi rule. The nazis forcefully took over every large company and ruled them from the top down. There were no private business owners left. The economy was destroyed by the national socialist state. The means of production WERE in the hand of the public. The public IS the state. There is no such thing as "the public". This is a vague collectivist term, which is just another word for a state.
In conclusion, you don't know what capitalism means, you can't define socialism either, and you're either confused and uneducated, or a liar. Pick one.
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@thenarkknight278 As expected, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and it's obvious you didn't even bother to watch the video, just plaster your uninformed and uneducated opinion everywhere.
Hitler was openly anti-capitalist, Hitler destroyed businesses through taxation and anti semitic excuses, with the intention to eventually remove all of the private sector. "He put it under the nazi ruling parties will" so you contradict your entire argument within a few sentences. If the state controls it, it isn't capitalism. This is why you should at least pick up a book or two before sharing your hilarious opinions online.
The nazis created the largest labour union that has ever existed. Removing rival unions is not evidence Hitler wasn't a socialist. This is a moronic argument. No "capitalists" prospered under nazi rule. The nazis forcefully took over every large company and ruled them from the top down. There were no private business owners left. The economy was destroyed by the national socialist state. The means of production WERE in the hand of the public. The public IS the state. There is no such thing as "the public". This is a vague collectivist term, which is just another word for a state.
In conclusion, you don't know what capitalism means, you can't define socialism either, and you're either confused and uneducated, or a liar. Pick one.
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