Comments by "Julia P." (@juliap.5375) on "Scott Manley"
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No. Different kind of economic. Space and military industrial complexes in Russia de facto living in soviet system. It is build by state, on state owned factories, without foreigners, mainly from state resources. Nobody will buy for self new yacht or collection of Ferrari cars because made profit (earned state money just because owned factory and sell parts in 2-3-50 times more of real price; typical situation in USA). Price of rocket is equal to price of materials from which it made + salary of workers which earn the same salary regardless amount of rockets they produce (fixed salary once per month). Significant share of this money very soon return back to state.
While you comparing with American system where whole space industry in hands of commercial companies. Each of they want some profit (and people in that companies actually incredible rich, including billionaires, they have more money than Russia spent of whole own space program). It is why on each stage of production of any part price is growing to some inadequate values, so everything is incredible overpriced. In such conditions arrived SpaceX which proposed reusable rockets. It allow to save money. In USA it is works because everything overpriced, in Russia it can’t work, because prices already equal to prime cost.
It is possibly in Russia to decrease price, but only a bit (cost of scrap), but actually it is complicated and expensive process. It need to rebuild factories. As I said, workers earn same salary, irrelevant amount of rockets they made. So, with reusables rockets, if you made 3 rockets per year, and spend on this 3 months, what workers must to do rest 9 month? You need to reorganize factory in such way, that workers will do another work, as example build satellites, engines and so on. Maybe you need to fire some of them, but you need before to find for them another work.
Then you comparing prices on market. But actually there are no real open market. Why at Soviet times nobody used Russian rockets to launch satellites? Why nobody almost never use Chinese rockets nowadays? Because Americans deny to whole world, threat with sanctions and close access to American parts/electronics for satellites.
In 1990s after dissolve of USSR, Americans afraid that without money Russian scientists will spread around whole world and build for a lot of countries rockets (like Ukrainians which moved to North Korea where built ICBM/SLBM). As example India signed with Russia such deal, they ordered creation of whole space industry from ground to space station. Americans in panic forced Yeltsin to cancel this deal and signed agreement, that they will not block for other countries orders of Russian rockets, but Russia must hold prices somewhere near average of American market, so American space industry could live and not died (as it happened with uranium enrichment industry in USA because Russians have more developed technology which costs in over 20 times cheaper). So, you see not real Russian prices on rockets, but some overpriced. Actually reusable American rockets cost in several times more than non-reusable Russian or Chines.
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Lol, it is lie, just propaganda. Actually Russia signed incredible huge public deal with India, the last one ordered for self whole space program in Russia: from building modern spaceports to development of rockets, own space station, programs for Indian universes, etc. They wanted to buy de facto whole space industry equal to Russian.
In US immediately started hysteric when deal was signed, because it meant India could get modern technologies and later develop even more regards to more resources and large population than had USSR and left in Russia. Also it meant of course, that India could became incredible powerful from military point of view, equal or even more developed than US. So, US forced Yeltsin (whom they controlled and brought to power) to withdraw from already signed contract to stop development of India. And this freak did it, it is one of shameful example from 1990s. Russia lost tens billions (de facto over $100 billions), more than country earn/spent for last 30 years, including reputation in India and a lot of rest contracts which Indians stopped after this.
From another side, American regime not canceled own restrictions/sanctions which introduced else against USSR, including against space program. The last anti-Soviet sanctions was canceled only in 2012 (!) and in same year replaced with new one. For that money country could even send man on Mars, incredible money. Actually US helped almost destroy Russian space program. While engines they bought because they were best and had no direct alternative.
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Russian space industry still works de facto in communistic economy. Roscosmos is just new name for Soviet ministry which developed space. It in state property and control. It have no profit, but connected directly to state budget. It is reasons why Russian space budget in near 15 times less than American, but in general both countries have equal programs and by a lot directions Russia even more progressive.
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@Sciolist There are no any delays actually. Story of Angara:
1) 1992 Let’s build new rocket; organize competition, what developers will propose.
2) 1994 Proposed some project. Okey. But our country just dissolved, it is even worse than WW2, industry destroyed, civil wars, we have no money, so let’s return to it in future.
3) 1997 Guys, we have better project, let’s do it instead of current. Okey. Proposed absolutely different project.
4) 1998 Russia declared about own bankruptcy. Nobody still funded Angara.
5) 1999 Two Protons fall, Kazakhstan is angry and promise deny for Russia to launch Protons.
6) 2004 Signed agreement that Russia will build new rocket to replace Proton which use poisoned fuel. Russia got right to launch Protons until 2025. Angara postponed somewhere in far future.
7) 2006 South Koreans visited Russia: guys, you are clever and know how to build rockets. Can you help and build rockets for us, we will pay? Russians: let’s take our project Angara, modify it and use for Koreans, they will pay for our rocket? Okey.
8) 2009 First stage of Angara done and launched as part of new South Korean rocket.
9) 2012 Russian Angara 100% done. Guys, regards to Korean money we build new rocket yearly than planned, but there are no place to launch it.
...now we need to build launchpad for Angara in new Vostochny Cosmodrome and new factory closer to it. But because we already signed with Kazakhstan agreement that we have right to launch Protons rockets until 2025, there are no reasons to hurry. So, let’s build launchpad in 2023 (after launchpad for Soyuz), while factory in 2022. Okey.
10) 2014 On military cosmodrome Plesetsk created temporary launchpad for tests of Angara. In that year launched light and heavy versions. Hurray!
At same time somewhere in military stuff: guys, we need big rockets to deliver ‘light and heat’:
2007: SLBM Sineva ready.
2009: ICBM Yars ready.
2014: SLBM Lainer ready.
2018: SLBM Bulava ready.
2019: Hypersonic glider ready.
In development ICBM Sarmat, at tests anti-space defense system A-235, with fastest in world (in class of large rockets which can in space) ABM A-925 and 58R6.
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