Comments by "Harry Stoddard" (@HarryS77) on "Dave Rubin Accidentally EXPOSES Yang's UBI As Libertarian Trojan Horse" video.

  1. Everyone needs to forget throwaway candidate Yang. The sooner the better.
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  2.  @tedhall6148  Of course he's less frightening to them—he wants to do the work of breaking up the social safety net. Automation is coming, and he wants to give people a few bucks. Bernie actually has some policies to encourage a transition to a workers' economy. They're not the main pillar of his campaign, for obvious reasons, but they're there. It's the complete opposite of what Yang wants to do. Yang's plan bolsters capitalism; Bernie's, in a few ways, weakens it.
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  3. So market forces and capitalism are accelerating the automation that could cause social turmoil once workers are laid off, and the solution is to put that system on life support? By privatizing sections of the economy dedicated to social aid...?
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  4.  @dch3348  Exactly. It's a plan that preys on people's vulnerability.
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  5. 1) Some people rely on those programs and 300 Yang bucks aren't going to cover their medical care, food, housing, etc. 2) Yang's plan exploits people's need for easy cash at the expense of the long-term benefit of social programs. Give a poor person a choice between money now and healthcare or housing, and a lot of the time they're going to take the money, to their detriment. They're acting rationally because they really could use that money, and so right-wing UBI proposals hijack their desperation in order to expand market forces and recommodify the necessities of life. 3) Right-wing UBI proposals seek to transform citizens into individuals who are subject to the market. Social programs ensure some level of social awareness and solidarity.
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  6. ...but you can never leave! bwaaa wa-wa waaahh
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  7. We're all communists now, comrade.
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  8.  @chunzhou4474  Nobody said they worked perfectly. No program will. Yang's plan reinforces the very markets that are causing the problem his program ostensibly exists to remedy. It's dumb. Yang supporters—who've probably never engaged with politics until they heard they might get 1k—need to go back and learn something about how history has proceeded and how conservatives have sought to dismantle basic protections for workers.
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  9.  @dch3348  There are definitely a lot of problems with the programs we have now. But as another commenter said, we shouldn't be fixing them taking money away from certain poor people instead of creating a system in which the super wealthy cannot exist and in which wealth will be divided more equally.
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  10.  @chunzhou4474  Honestly, I can't even figure out what you're trying to say. Read a book.
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  11.  @chunzhou4474  Read. a. book.
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  12.  @chunzhou4474  Jordan Peterson, omg haha. Never mind, you're gone. Good luck with that.
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  13. "and in our capitalist system the only way that things continue to be produced is if money flows through the different levels of the economy. Ubi will help that out exponentially." Too bad that's killing the planet.
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  14.  @Nunyabusiness40  You now how to really fix that? Worker ownership over the means of production. No more capitalists like Yang. No landlords. No bosses. Democratic ownership and management of work. Then automation can be a blessing.
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  15. *Shrinks government bureaucracy. *Increases corporate bureaucracy. *Increase in corporate bureaucracy increases government bureaucracy to oversee the corporate bureaucracy. *Shrinks government bureaucracy. *Etc. David Graeber has this thing he calls The Iron Law of Liberalism, which is that all attempts to "decrease the size of government" end up expanding it. That's basically the above.
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  16. Literally none of the words you used mean what you think they mean.
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  17.  @thesillentt  "I know virtually nothing " - sillent I think we can all agree with that statement.
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  18.  @Mukk13man  I was talking about his support for funding worker co-ops, but it's nice to know that you, like most people, think socialism is the government doing more stuff.
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  19.  @jeffmaehre7150  lol wat?
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  20. For anyone reading the comment above, when someone uses the word "choice" in an economic context, they're trying to rip you off.
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  21. I'd argue it might make aspects of the problem worse by privatizing basic needs. Look what's happened to the healthcare industry in America compared to other countries—an astronomical rise in prices and in some instances lower outcomes. That's what the "free" market does to human needs.
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