Comments by "Harry Stoddard" (@HarryS77) on "What The Hell Is Tulsi Gabbard Thinking?" video.

  1. I've come around to the idea that her resignation from the DNC was less about supporting Bernie Sanders, whose flagship policy she's abandoned for decidedly neoliberal, market-based rhetoric,, and more about sticking it to the Democratic establishment, a move which at the time appeared progressive but which also fits the behavior of more right-wing personalities, Dave Rubin for instance.
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  2. Tulsi doesn't like regime change wars. About other forms of state violence, war, and exploitation, she has nothing to say.
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  3.  @artis1969  There's a plethora of left, socialist, labor, anti-war, and progressive outlets, most of which are wise to Tulsi. Tulsi has long been trying to appeal to the right, to right-wing libertarians, and to elements of the disgruntled but ill-informed and unorganized left, eg Jimmy Dore fans. Tulsi isn't going on to Fox to raise awareness of leftist politics; she goes on Fox to echo right wing talking points.
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  4.  @Pxrish  I'm not supporting HRC's point, because it was dumb, but she did say "asset," not agent. There's a difference.
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  5. She even mulled it over herself.
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  6. Warren has every right to run, but I kind of don't get her campaign either. If she really were a "structural change" candidate and sided with Bernie on M4A, bank regulation, campaign finance, etc etc...why run? And the only plausible reason I can imagine is that she thinks Bernie goes too far and can't appeal to "the middle class," aka older white professionals. She wants courageous politicians, not a mass movement of the working class in international solidarity; she wants to amend the system, not to fundamentally critique it. Bernie's not offering up a social revolution from above, but 1) I think the upper class may be worried about the little folk taking the spirit of Bernie's message to heart and pushing beyond political revolution and 2) the extent to which he does propose change is still far beyond what a moderate progressive like Warren and her base would like.
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  7.  @modder15  Bernie Sanders has been campaigning since 2015. Let's be serious, okay? And while Warren was voting for Reagan, Bernie was fighting for healthcare, peace in Latin Ametica, and gay rights. If you want to start a contest of who did it first, have some awareness of who your opposition is.
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  8.  @underballbutter  Sometimes the apparent absence of an ideology is an ideology. I'm sure you have a friend or acquaintance who thinks they're apolitical but spouts the cliches of the dominant ideology. Warren doesn't have to articulate an ideology because it can be assumed that it is basically capitalistic meritocracy with bumper lanes. She's swimming in water and Bernie's talking about this thing called land.
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  9. Michael said, they're both potentially diminishing progressive and progressive-adjacent support for Bernie contra Biden. That was the extent of the comparison.
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  10. Look at how many votes she's missed and how many important votes she cast in the wrong direction.
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  11.  @underballbutter  I'm sorry, I don't follow.
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  12.  @underballbutter  I think that besides a quantitative difference in change each is proposing (eg how much the wealth tax ought to be) there's a more subterranean, and for that reason more potent, qualitative difference. Bernie in 2016 sounded a lot like Warren in 2019, but 2020 Bernie has developed and expanded the progressive agenda. To you it may not seem like a big difference, but as MLK pointed out, the (white) moderate is keenly sensitive to the pace of change, and though they may recognize the need for change, it must be so gradual, delayed, negotiated, and defanged of any expedited justice as to preserve their essential comfort. Warren also represents an appeal to competence as the chief virtue of governance. And I think in running Warren us merely representing aspects of those forces - reluctant progress (just enough to stanch the possibility of insurrection) and manageralism. The fact that Warren and Sanders share policies obscures the fact that they are ideologically distinct. Perhaps that's where the confusion comes from. You're thinking she's essentially Bernie Sanders, so why run? But she knows, and her constituents know, and Bernie Sanders better fucking know, that she is no Bernie Sanders, so why wouldn't she run? She's in a different if parallel lane.
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  13.  @underballbutter  First off, you need to knock off the misogynistic, hateful bullshit. Not only is that reflective of an entitled attitude, but it isn't going to do Sanders's side any favors. Second of all, you can't think of Warren as Sanders-lite. They share certain priorities, but their ideological commitments are distinct, and without reading her mind, I'd guess that Warren believes Bernie's a fine messenger, but she's a better steward. That may just be it. But who knows, and what does it really matter? She doesn't owe you or me anything. Those Bernie supporters she "stole" may've just been more progressive anti-Clinton voters. What really matters is that people organize, join unions, join protests, and, on the side, make a case why Bernie Sanders is better for an environment for and vision of working class movements than Warren. Her motives are immaterial.
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  14. Bernie didn't seem to be smiling when Tulsi launched into her bizarre troop speech in the debate.
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  15. Define good.
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  16.  @DinoCism  On the contrary, before she resigned from the DNC, she was seen as a rising star in the party establishment.
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  17.  regulator619  Yes or no, did Assad's forces use sarin and chlorine?
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  18.  regulator619  What did the UN say?
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  19. I suspect Warren likes Bernie but thinks he goes too far in questioning capitalism. Bernie Sanders has governed and legislated like a social democrat, but certain things, like his workplace democracy plan, his previous support for federally funding worker owned cooperatives, and his more recent, explicitly anti-capitalist rhetoric make me think he's been holding back.
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  20.  @underballbutter  I don't know. You'd have to ask her.
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  21. She'd be a pretty weaksauce asset. What is she polling at? 1%?
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  22. I'm no Tulsi fan, but she's not Sarah Palin. Be real.
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  23.  @despicabletaylor  I believe bridges should go no where. Disappointed piers.
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