Comments by "anotheranon" (@anotheranon3118) on "TLDR News EU"
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@newfaith912 No one is putting into question the fact that non-EU Balkan countries have rich histories, cultures, great food and hospitable people. That said, we are concerned about the rule of law, corruption, freedom of the press, respect for minorities, a number of economic issues, etc.
No minimum standards met = no membership. No EU membership does not mean that candidate/country X is uncivilized. Far from that. It just means that it is not ready for membership. That's all.
Also, corruption is an endemic problem in these nations. The EU may at times contribute to these problems, for sure, but it is far from the main culprit.
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@danielalexandre89 I abhor Putin and his regime, but my concern here is Ukraine, Ukrainians and the future of their country - which again, it is theirs, a flawed democracy, but a country that has the right to exist. Russia is essentially a quasi-fascist regime, should we tear it apart then?
What's the end goal to this? It is the third time that Russia has invaded Ukraine in 8 years. Does it end with these 4 oblasts? Who assures you that they won't keep marching forward onto Kharkiv, Kyiv and beyond? And also, have you got any idea of what is happening within the occupied territories - forced deportations, war crimes, general abuse, erasure of the Ukrainian identity?
Nah, screw that. The West should support Ukraine and what Ukrainians want to do. Public polls reflect that Ukrainians want to keep their country and wish to see a free Ukraine in the future, despite the associated costs. I respect their will and I think that we should support them. That's what I, as well as the majority of Europeans think.
And remember. Ukraine is fighting for survival. Ukraine is being attacked yet again, under the most flimsy of pretexts by an imperialistic state stuck in the mentality of the 1800s. This all makes a difference. There are wars that are with fighting. This is one of them.
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@danielalexandre89 Ukraine is not in NATO but Ukrainians share many of our values and aspirations and have made it clear that they would like to be a part of the EU and the European democratic community. Ukraine is an EU candidate and works closely with us in many respects. Ukraine is in our continent and the connections among our countries run deep. I personally have visited the country and know many Ukrainians. This is the case for many people across the EU, especially the closer you get to Ukraine.
"You have to let Russia conquer Ukraine" - so all of it then. Thanks for replying to my question. All of it, gotcha. We need to let the imperial rogue state to the east wreak havoc in our neighborhood. We need to let it do whatever, no matter what it is. Anything to appease the bear, even if it is just giving up on the large period of peace - with a few exceptions, ie Yugoslavia - that we have enjoyed since the 50s. War crimes in Ukraine? Destruction of civilian infrastructure? Unjustified aggression? All cool, man. If you cover your eyes, you won't see it.
Kind reminder that Russia has lost large swathes of land which it controlled in March. Russia was going to take Ukraine in three days also, and look where we are at. It is a bad assumption to go by - that Russia will just conquer Ukraine. Look at the facts on the ground.
Letting Ukraine fall means serious crimes against Ukrainians from now on - that is from now into the future. It means cultural genocide. It means torture in their own land. It means forced relocations and disposession. It means censorship. It means lack of political representation. It means erasure of their identity. Russia won't be a force for good, but a colonizer. They are not liberating anyone. See what they have been up to in the occupied territories. See for yourself. No one should have to go through this. Again, this is a war fighting for and worth supporting.
Re. conscription, that is a different matter which can be debated. The fact that there is conscription in Ukraine - or corruption, or what have you - does not mean by any means that we should not support their plight.
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