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@newfaith912 No one is putting into question the fact that non-EU Balkan countries have rich histories, cultures, great food and hospitable people. That said, we are concerned about the rule of law, corruption, freedom of the press, respect for minorities, a number of economic issues, etc.
No minimum standards met = no membership. No EU membership does not mean that candidate/country X is uncivilized. Far from that. It just means that it is not ready for membership. That's all.
Also, corruption is an endemic problem in these nations. The EU may at times contribute to these problems, for sure, but it is far from the main culprit.
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@andreadifilippo347 Quién dice que lo que hay en Espana no es una democracia, y lo que hay en Italia sí lo es? Andrea di Filippo? Es cierto que es difícil hacer rankings y comparaciones en este sentido, pero los hay. Espana figura el decimonoveno país, frente a Italia (33th), en el Democracy Index de la revista The Economist. Freedom House otorga la misma puntuación a Espana e Italia (90) en cuanto a accesos a derechos políticos y libertades civiles. La universidad de Wurzburg, midiendo la calidad de la democracia global, sitúa a espana en onceavo lugar, y a Italia en el 22. Global Democracy Ranking (aunque viejo, de 2016) sitúa a espana en el lugar 19 y a Italia en el 28. Si tienes datos mejores o estudios de este tipo, por favor, recomiéndamelos.
Tal vez no somos tan fascistas como se nos tilda rápidamente? Puede que estas personas fueran condenadas a prisión por una razón de peso, y no meramente por dar su opinión o por intentar impulsar sus convicciones acorde con la legalidad? Tal vez.
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@Paddystinian82 The US and the EU may have favoured the Maidan revolution, but that does not mean that they orchestrated it. Everything was settled for Ukraine to sign the association agreement with the EU in late 2013 but Yanukovych bowed to pressure (and rubles) from Moscow. Many – most, but not all – were upset about this, hence the protests. The reason why Putin denies Ukraine’s sovereignty is that neo-imperial Russia still sees Ukraine as an appendage.
Zelensky was invested in finding a solution for the Donbas. That was one of the main pillars of his political project. The problem with Minsk treaties is the issue of interpretation– read about the so-called ‘Minsk Conundrum.’ Russia’s demands re. (a) elections and (b) the 'special status' for the Donbass were unacceptable for Ukraine. For 8 years, Russia has been using the region as a tool to puppetize all of Ukraine.
You can't just call that a mere civil war when Russia has been involved in the region since 2014 with intel, funds, men and weapons.
OSCE monitors remained in the region up until Russia decided to full on invade Ukraine. These OSCE monitors have compiled great data – which I am sure you are familiar with. And as you probably know, the conflict had stalled. The number of deaths was unacceptable but very low compared to the initial stages (27 in 2019, 26 in 2020, 15 up until August 2021). As you also know very well, bullets and shells have been flying across the contact line, in both directions, which you conveniently omit.Ukraine had not increased its pressure over its own territory in 2021/2022.
You claim that Putin cares about the Ukrainian people. To that, I say to you: "ha!" I can see how: by destroying their country, by seizing their territory, by meddling in their affairs, by killing thousands upon thousands (including civilians), by destroying their homes, schools and hospitals, by having their military commit war crimes and a long etc. If Putin had cared about Ukraine (again, a sovereign country, and not his own, this is not Chechnya), he would not have started this all. He would not have groznied Ukrainian towns and cities. He would have agreed to UN peacekeepers and not claimed that they would veto any of that. Nah. Putin cares about his own interests, his neo-imperial delusions of grandeur and his material objectives in Ukraine. Nothing more, nothing else.
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@lynzhu3343 By labeling it a domestic issue, you are trying to shield China from criticism. But nope, we are all watching, and we all should keep watching - just like the world should keep track of Russia's aggression in Ukraine or the US' adventures in the MENA. This is a global conversation.
The Taiwanese clearly do not want to be "reunified" with the mainland and polls show this consistently (only about 6.5% favour 'reunification' at some point in time). The question of Taiwan's recognition and standing in the international arena is difficult and there are too many topics to consider. Effectively though, they have been running their own country for decades - own legislative, judiciary and executive powers regardless of Beijing, own defense policy regardless of Beijing, own currency, own border control. What it seems very clear to me from looking at the data and from having spent time in the region is that there is virtually zero desire for the Taiwanese to be governed/ruled from Beijing.
There are many non-Chinese and non-Taiwanese here who make pretty bad arguments. But there are also many Chinese who have awful hot takes. What we should judge here is the quality of those comments themselves and not whether someone comes from Japan, the US or Guangdong. We should all participate in this conversation in good faith. But ultimately, it is the Taiwanese people who should have the ultimate say.
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@safiibrahim1778 I don't think that they are, to be honest. When we talk about gas, we need to check the connections that link Russia to the East. There's only one pipeline which can't deliver large volumes as of now. There is another one being built, but that will take years to finish. Western technology is required to finalize that pipeline, which can't be imported as of now, so the project may take longer to finalize. Also, China won't be as stupid as the Europeans to almost exclusively rely on Russia for their gas, so Putin and co. do have a problem on that front at least in the short to medium term.
Re. oil, Russia's oil is not the cheapest around to produce. Saudi's, Iran's and Iraq's oil is much cheaper. Indonesia's, Norway's and US' oil are more or less the same price. Russia's oil is also easier to replace in the global market than gas is, because there are more sellers. And now that it needs to be shipped further away (5 days are likely to become 30+ for the average Russian tanker to reach its destination), it becomes less competitive. So that's something to consider. OPEC is currently pumping more oil into the global supply and, along with other reasons, crude oil prices have decreased quite a bit since they went bananas in March.
So, no, I don't think so. It may look like they do, but when you start scratching the surface, the reality is more complicated.
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@safiibrahim1778 It's very hard to talk about medium to long term scenarios. The West's global power in relative terms will decline, but it's just very hard to make proper predictions about all the rest.
China has a terminal demography, which will really bite them. They only have a short window of time to escape the middle income trap before their society gets too old, which will have very clear implications for growth, among others. Japan, for instance, got 'rich' before it got old, and even so, their demographic profile is really hurting them. We will see whether China manages that transition adequately, which may not be the case.
We are also in the midst of an energy transition. China has a bit of an upper hand in this when it comes to the supply of rare earth minerals, but hydrocarbon exporters such as Russia may be losing big in the medium term. Saudi Arabia, for instance, knows this, that's why they are diversifying its economy at the moment - to be prepared.
New markets for the minerals that you quote above can be explored. Investment needs to follow suit. China has the monopoly on many because they invested in extraction domestically and tried to control some of the african supply chains. That does not mean it is a fixed matter - things can change in that respect.
Russia's self sufficiency does not mean they will be necessarily doing Ok - problematic demographic profile too, brain drain, they will find it hard to move up the value chain ladder in many sectors, a very big country yes but also difficult to manage in terms of infrastructure /logistics, new pariah status with not blocked but severely curtailed access to investment and funding, and many others.
TLDR: it's hard to look very far into the future, especially when we talk about so many things at once. But I do appreciate you keeping it civil and I do appreciate the reasonable reply.
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@lynzhu3343 The US, for 30 years, recognized Taiwan's independence, but that's not the point. The point here is that, while the question of recognition is thorny for Taiwan for a number of reasons, Taiwan is de facto an independent country (or a self ruled territory, we could look into the terminology with more detail).
Comparing Texas to Taiwan is misleading, but let's have a look: Texans have a say in domestic affairs and enjoy a degree of autonomy but they still abide by the greater American judicial, legislative and executive structures of government, they don't have their own military, they don't have their own foreign policy, they don't have their own central bank and their own currency, their own passports, their own defense/border control policies and infrastructures, they don't demand visas/permits from other American citizens, etc. None of the previous applies to Taiwan.
Taiwan is de facto a sovereign entity but not widely recognized globally, that's why it occupies this weird legal limbo. What it clearly is not is just a mere province of China.
Considering that there is virtually no appetite in the island to be governed/rule by Beijing (among others, because they do value their democracy), it seems that China will have to attempt to annex the island to "reunify" it. We will see how that goes, if it ever happens.
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@CorruptMediaLies CNN lmao. Try harder. 400k - 800k protesters during the height of the movement according to different sources. 50k - 200k during normal days. You don't know much about protest movements, do you? These are huge figures for a country like Ukraine. They clearly reflected the growing support for EU membership, which had grown considerably since the 90s. I can get you some figures if you'd like. When you think about it, it's no wonder that Ukrainians had gotten tired of the Kremlin's neo-vassalage arrangement for their country - it only brought poverty, corruption and extreme inequality (a la Russian, but worse).
Everything was ready for the agreement to be signed, but Yanukovich - Putin's pal and world most corrupt leader of that year according to Transparency International - backed off after the Kremlin probably gave him personal treats plus promises of 15b in loans and discounts in the natural gas bills. This was widely unpopular across Ukraine. Do you know what was also widely unpopular? The fact that Yanukovich ordered police forces to shoot live rounds at protestors. 108 dead. ~2,000 injured.
Not everyone was happy with the Maidan, sure, but it was largely supported. There were clashes in cities like Odessa and ugly incidents as well.
This, however, was not enough of a cause to justify the invasion of Crimea and the take-over of the Eastern third of the Donbass - because as we all know by now, many of those combatants as well as funds, intel and weapons made it into Ukraine from Russia (do you think that they shot down that plane with a rusty Kalashnikov?)
Oh, the Minsk agreements. Have you read them? Did you know that Russia had a bunch of obligations under them that they never abode by, or is this fresh news to you?
This is, let's remember, the same Russia that promised to respect Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty when the Budapest Memorandum was signed.
Now we have Russia invading more of Ukraine (yes, more of Ukraine) to do exactly what? To liberate the 15% self-declared ethnic Russians in Kherson to later bomb the s*** out of the city once they lost control of it and destroy all the civilian infrastructure? Apparently this oblast voted 87% pro unification with Russia lmao. Give me a break.
You talk extremism in Ukraine. There's extremism in Ukraine. There's a lot of extremism in Russia too. Did you know? Would you like some names? Lately though, the worst offender is the state itself as we are seeing with all the war crimes and the destruction of Ukraine's civilian infrastructure. Again. 200k dead on both sides since March, 6m plus displaced in Ukraine. I think the EU label State Sponsor of Terrorism is quite fitting.
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@abrahambecker1971 No, what you are very clearly doing is to bring up other issues in an attempt to DISREGARD that which concerns us today, which are the extremely serious ABUSES that the largest ethnic group native to the region of Xinjiang, the UYGHURS, have been subjected to over the past few years. Suppression of their customs, supression of their culture, supression of their religious practices, supression of their language, re-education camps where hundreds of thousands have been sent, Chinese han-ification of the region, lack of personal freedoms, excessive monitoring, unwarranted punishments and a large, large etcetera. This is what concerns us today and what we are talking about, not whether there's a high speed train connecting Urumqi to the rest of the Chinese network.
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@abrahambecker1971 That's just Bollocks with a capital B, again, with all respect to you as a commenter. There are security controls practically everywhere (documents, contents of your cell, etc), cameras in every corner, areas where you need hard-to-get permits to enter, a number of areas off-limits, and an overall climate of fear and repression. Foreigners are interrogated and searched for hours at a time. Visitors report having been ordered to install monitoring apps during their stay. Police keep an eye on visitors and what they are up to. Locals are wary of talking to foreigners because of the potential negative consequences. And let's not go into media restrictions. This is just what happens to foreigners. Locals, ofc, have it much worse.
Xinjiang is a police state with heightened surveillance. And this is something that the CCP admit to an extent, as they argue that a number of these measures had to be introduced to stop terrorist attacks. So, yeah, you are either lying outright, don't know what you are talking about or visited in the 1970s.
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@lovedogshatepeople4340 Minsk accords: Russia has interfered in the Donbass for a long, long time now. To Russia, the Donbass acts as the pawn that allows them to keep Ukraine as a vassal in their neo-colonial strategy. The Minsk accords are not clearly worded, and Russia's interpretation of them is plain insane. I suggest that you read about the Minsk Conundrum. But of course, regurgitating Russian propaganda is easier than reading pages of material.
Donetsk and Donbass: Russia has been sending troops, money, intelligence officers and weapons to internationally recognized Ukrainian territory since 2014 and you expect that the Ukrainians would not fight back? What would happen if the West sent troops, weapons and funds to Chechnya and armed rebels? Would Moscow sit idly and just look?
The Ghost of Kyiv? Oh God, wow, terrible lies about an urban legend, so baaaaad, outrageous eh! In the meantime, Russia has kept lying about their exercises and not invading Ukraine, about the war - a 'special operation' -, about their justifications to invade Ukraine, about the thousands of civilians that they have killed so far (including the war crimes in Bucha), about 'bio-labs,' about NATO being actively involved, about Zelensky leaving Ukraine, about them not striking non military targets, about sexual abuse cases by their military, about forced relocations, about Ukraine's history... about pretty much everything.
Russia is the aggressor. Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine is trying to keep their country as it is, a sovereign nation recognized by all nations on earth, including Russia. Russia is acting in a neo-colonial, murderous fashion, needs to be called out and should pay for it.
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@danielalexandre89 I abhor Putin and his regime, but my concern here is Ukraine, Ukrainians and the future of their country - which again, it is theirs, a flawed democracy, but a country that has the right to exist. Russia is essentially a quasi-fascist regime, should we tear it apart then?
What's the end goal to this? It is the third time that Russia has invaded Ukraine in 8 years. Does it end with these 4 oblasts? Who assures you that they won't keep marching forward onto Kharkiv, Kyiv and beyond? And also, have you got any idea of what is happening within the occupied territories - forced deportations, war crimes, general abuse, erasure of the Ukrainian identity?
Nah, screw that. The West should support Ukraine and what Ukrainians want to do. Public polls reflect that Ukrainians want to keep their country and wish to see a free Ukraine in the future, despite the associated costs. I respect their will and I think that we should support them. That's what I, as well as the majority of Europeans think.
And remember. Ukraine is fighting for survival. Ukraine is being attacked yet again, under the most flimsy of pretexts by an imperialistic state stuck in the mentality of the 1800s. This all makes a difference. There are wars that are with fighting. This is one of them.
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@natakhomyakova6996 The Russian gov. cracks down on free media and is happy to ban not only international but also national platforms which don't adhere to the mainstream narrative too (Kommersant, Gazeta, Lenta and Grani and many others). The Russian gov. intimidates United Russia's high profile opponents in various ways - sometimes they are poisoned, sometimes they are defenestrated, sometimes they are imprisoned (Navalny), sometimes they are outright killed (Nemtsov). Journalists too critical of the regime and the grand corruption which exists in Russia (5b USD spent on a 50 km road in Sochi LMAO) are targeted and sometimes assassinated (Politkovskaya among many others). Human Rights activists are imprisoned under the draconian 'foreign agent' premise. The Russian gov. clearly manipulates elections and engages in electoral fraud (i.e. factory workers bussed to election sites under the watchful eye of the employer - electoral violations to do with employment are the most common). The Russian gov. feeds its citizens a politics of fear and uses force to suppress civil society - anyone who openly labels this a war or says they are against it, can easily be sent to prison (much free speech). Nepotism is rampant across public agencies (ie. 1/4 of governors, 20% of presidential administrators and 1/4 of state owned companies managers are affiliated with the security services).
I can keep going on for ages, if you'd like to hear more beautiful things about your country (:
But it is not just me saying this. Freedom House gives Russia a grand total of 19 points out of a 100, and labels it "not free" (Abkhazia, for instance, gets 40 lol). Russia gets 3.24 out of 10 points in the economist's democracy index - i.e. not a democracy. Check out ANY international ranking you'd like and see for yourself. Russia is riddled with troubled in her politics. Just because you close your eyes and cover your ears, it won't go away.
The bad news is that people like yourself keep supporting a terrible regime which has been ruining your country for a few years now. Ukrainians are paying for it, but you are starting to feel the heat now and will increasingly get burnt.
The good news is that you can be honest with yourself, get informed, leave that pointless pride on the side and do something about it.
At the end of the day, I guess it is up to you, but please, two favors. If you want to destroy yourselves, and be miserable, I guess go ahead, but don't destroy others along the path. And two, don't tell us that Russia is a democracy because that's truly a pathetic take on things as they stand.
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@TheExtraterrestrial99 I never claimed that the poll involved 20m + people. Never. I said that there are 20m+ people in Taiwan with different political opinions.
If you know anything about statistics, polls are all about representative samples. Check out, for instance, the surveys conducted by the Election Study Center at the National Chengchi University. They also make their methodology public. Certainly not a he said / she said thing. Also, very clear that a tiny, tiny minority favour 'unification.' But there are similar surveys/polls out there, it is all about doing the research (:
Btw, to be as opinionated as you are about this topic, especially as a foreigner, you should know much more about polling data imho.
Also, that's my last response to you. Xie xie.
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@TheExtraterrestrial99 I can't with you, really.
This is a representative survey by a competent authority. Similar polls by similar institutions yield pretty much the same results.
Polls/surveys work with representative samples. If you don't know how surveys/polls are conducted, you should learn more about it. Again, for the third fricken time, I never claimed that 20m + Taiwanese people said X, Y or Z. Never. I argued, very clearly, that Taiwan is a democracy, that polls are conducted on these questions (unlike in the mainland), that there is obvs a diversity of opinion, and that despite said diversity, virtually nobody wants reunification.
If it is not clear enough to you, you need to take a course on basic stats:
PRO UNIFICATION: 6.4%
- Unification ASAP, 1.3%
- Maintain status quo, move towards unification 5.1%
OPTIONS PRO STATUS QUO AND PRO INDEPENDENCE - 87.3%
NO RESPONSE - 6.3%
"Twisting information" lol. Not even with the polling data in front of your eyes can you see the reality of Taiwanese public opinion. Not my fault that you have a bias larger than life.
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@pokechow8295 "There are a lot lf information about that. Also on YouTube" - that's not an official source bruv. An official, neutral source is the OSCE or the UN Human Rights Office. If you had read any of their reports, you'd have seen that 14,000 died as a result of the conflict. But unlike what you claim here, 3,000 were civilians. The rest were combatants. So that's lie number one. And there's a lie number 2 in your story. If you look at any maps by these organisations for ceasefire violations, human rights abuses or casaulties, you will realise that those happen ACROSS BOTH SIDES of the contact line. This changes the picture completely. Suddenly, we see that Ukraine is not indiscriminately targeting civilians as you claim. Instead, here, there has been a protracted war of sorts between Ukraine and Russia where Moscow-backed rebels (with men, weapons, funds and intel) have attempted - and arguably succeeded - to secede from Ukraine. This has been a bloody conflict that has unfortunately killed civilians (again, on both sides) and which Moscow has been happy to keep active to have Ukraine continue to be weak. And it is thanks to people like you, who are intentionally and knowingly spreading misinformation or being useful id** for the Kremlin that Russian lies continue to spread. But upon examination, they don't fly bruv. They just don't.
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@benvandam369 What happened in Donbass is that Russia interfered with men, weapons, funds and intel in the affairs of a sovereign country. Imagine that Turkey had intervened in Chechnya. If Russia had been any concerned about the people in Eastern Ukraine, it would have gone through the UN first, not vetoing any resolutions on the matter. But of course, it did not. With the 'people of the Donbass' pretext, it sought to gain a foothold in Ukraine, which it did. It invaded, seized, and sent the very same people it was supposed to protect to war, like cannon fodder, against their will. That's what happened in the region.
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@danielalexandre89 Ukraine is not in NATO but Ukrainians share many of our values and aspirations and have made it clear that they would like to be a part of the EU and the European democratic community. Ukraine is an EU candidate and works closely with us in many respects. Ukraine is in our continent and the connections among our countries run deep. I personally have visited the country and know many Ukrainians. This is the case for many people across the EU, especially the closer you get to Ukraine.
"You have to let Russia conquer Ukraine" - so all of it then. Thanks for replying to my question. All of it, gotcha. We need to let the imperial rogue state to the east wreak havoc in our neighborhood. We need to let it do whatever, no matter what it is. Anything to appease the bear, even if it is just giving up on the large period of peace - with a few exceptions, ie Yugoslavia - that we have enjoyed since the 50s. War crimes in Ukraine? Destruction of civilian infrastructure? Unjustified aggression? All cool, man. If you cover your eyes, you won't see it.
Kind reminder that Russia has lost large swathes of land which it controlled in March. Russia was going to take Ukraine in three days also, and look where we are at. It is a bad assumption to go by - that Russia will just conquer Ukraine. Look at the facts on the ground.
Letting Ukraine fall means serious crimes against Ukrainians from now on - that is from now into the future. It means cultural genocide. It means torture in their own land. It means forced relocations and disposession. It means censorship. It means lack of political representation. It means erasure of their identity. Russia won't be a force for good, but a colonizer. They are not liberating anyone. See what they have been up to in the occupied territories. See for yourself. No one should have to go through this. Again, this is a war fighting for and worth supporting.
Re. conscription, that is a different matter which can be debated. The fact that there is conscription in Ukraine - or corruption, or what have you - does not mean by any means that we should not support their plight.
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@ДмитрийКруглик-х9ц 1. 'Arguably' to add some nuance, but I did not really have to do so because these figures come from no other than the Russian government itself. I suggest that you listen to some of the people who were forcebly deported to Russia who were interviewed by non-Russian media. They offer interesting insights (cue: many of them did not go to their families, esp. children, but don't listen to me, but them). Also interesting to think about the legal implications of this, but not that you care I am sure.
2. You do love to continue to exploit that anti-Nazi rethoric (everyone who does not agree with you is a fascist ofc), but it has gotten old, pal. Maybe you can pull that trick in Russian state media and have people believe you, but not here. Also, I very clearly said that there needs to be a distinction made between the state and the individual. And when I mentioned 'judging,' we don't put people in prison for thought crimes over here, let alone do what you are referring to, but I see that you are into hyperboles. One more thing on that end. The Russian state behaves like a pariah today, but it also has a pretty terrible recent history in its previous reincarnation in terms of deaths and suffering, which to be fair is not much better than Nazi Germany's. Nothing to be proud of, for sure. So a bit wild of you to made those accusations.
3. - A bad analogy is a bad analogy, yours is pretty dreadful (and you know it), and it does not detract from the fact that the vast majority of the world's nations disapproved of what you are doing (and that only Russia and its 4 satellites were for it). But if you personally want to believe that Russia has quite a bit of popularity at the global stage, especially lately... I guess that's up to you. Not that it is true, mind you.
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