Comments by "Greg Greg" (@SlowhandGreg) on "GBNews" channel.

  1. 14 years too late On your bike wishy Washy
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  2. net migration is rising because of a lack of social and structural investment, if you want less foreign nurses you pony up the money and train your own Promising low tax and low net migration is a complete Con job
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  3. I'm a pensioner I don't need the fuel benefit what I needed was an economy and a party that didn't freeze tax thresholds and funded public services properly
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  4. Is this a comedy sketch? The economy is tanking invstment has fallen off a cliff and numbers in small boats has doubled. Oh and food production is down as well and we have additional brexit food inflation but apart from that !
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  5. Spectator Analysis showed the Tories would add £3000 to our tax given their promises, over the last Parliament Sky calculated that the Tories had added £13,000 to tax since 2019 Sunak says he's good on maths ? is he fk
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  6. This is our choice stop blaming others for the decisions made by UK politicians
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  7. GBN shilling for the Tories what a surprise. The party that has produced the worst economic results since the Nepolionic wars
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  8. You've got it al you do is complain about it
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  9. That's easy the Tories outsourced everything increasing its cost If you look at the NHS a lot of the money just hemorrhage out this way
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  10. You do realise he's highly qualified
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  11. Nobody is obstructing Johnsons Brexit this is it, trying to blame the EU for us erecting trade barriers on ourselves is kind of stupid
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  12. ​@TPT6148 Norway are in the single market my brother lives there we now have to fill in export forms to send him a birthday gift I don't think you have a clue as to howmuch damage to the UK’s economy Johnson's hard Brexit is causing
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  13.  @JanisDavis-b8v  refugees are 62,000 per annum v legal migration of 1.25 million yet you want to conflate the 2 why?
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  14. I'm quite looking forward to a Labour administration A proper trade deal with the EU removal of tons of paper work and red tape working NHS fixed supply chain so no food shortages can't wait
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  15. Between myself and my wife were worth 1.5 million if we died tomorrow it would all go to my son Tax Free - this is a CON to let the top 4% off tax
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  16. Yea I mean how will you cope with services improving and no free tax giveaways to the rich
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  17. If you want lower migration vote for a party that will invest in the UK and is prepared to raise taxes on the wealthy to do it not one that p1sses money away on gimmicks
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  18. ​ @ChelleKT1 no they won't In the unemployment numbers are a huge swathe 9f people who are classed as special needs, people with Autism, Downs others with severe mental illness. Budgets have been cut that severely that their is zero support for these people. Also if you look at prison statistics more and more people with special needs are ending up in prison
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  19. ​ @alyb731 Sunak paid 21p in the £ I think you'll find they don't It's estimated that Bezos paid 3 cents on the $ last year
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  20. There's a majority in NI to stay in the single market There has to be a border down the Irish Sea or Regulatory alignment with the EU and remain in the single market (Irish backstop) Johnson chose the Irish Sea option and lied about it at the end of the day the DUP only represents 30% of the population and the further down the road NI gets the bigger the majority will be to keep the protocol or call for a referendum on unification
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  21. Sajid Javid has been a non Dom for over a decade before becoming a cabinet minister The removal would generate around 3.2 billion and it also stops the avoidance of capital gains tax
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  22. Yea right you a millionaire?
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  23. Taxes are rising Fiscal Drag means the Tax and NI threshold at 20% should be £15,000 not £12,250 The 40% rate is frozen as well and Corporation tax is going up
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  24. The DUP are so stupid it's kind of funny, the only thing that will save NI from unification is the protocol without it the push for a unification vote will deafening They couldn't be a better advert for ditching GB
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  25. NI was always going to remain in the single market the people over there don't even want economy crippling brexit
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  26. They'll be reporting the truth physical exports fell by 4.6% in real terms imports fell by 7.4% in real terms service exports increased but Bloomberg analysts maintain they would have been higher without Brex i t London is OK the rest of the country is in recession
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  27. They were a Con show pony there wasn't the staff to man them
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  28. The gilt market nearly collapsed we have >100% debt to gdp with zero signs of growth Your typical tax cut costs the treasury and doesn't stimulate the economy for example the Banker tax cut in the April budget of 8 billion will generate around 2.4 billion in additional taxation so a net loss of5.6 billion to the treasury
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  29. Goods exports are down 4.6% in real terms adjusted for inflation and service growth has been suppressed quote from Bloomberg How, then, can we account for the strong UK services export growth compared to the G7 average? The answer is – again – that it is important to consider the right counterfactual. If we account for rising demand for services exports, we see that British exports should have performed even better than they did.
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  30. So what's the difference between Neoliberal trickle down that doesn't work for the Cons but Neoliberal trickle down from Reform?
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  31. Our NHS is around 50% cheaper than a private system would be and we need an integrated transport system
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  32. The vote in 2016 was all things to all men from a full Norway to the hard Brexit we ended up with In 2019 Boris got a vote of 43% mostly on the back of Corbyn Since 2016 its estimated that 2.3 million leave voters have died and if you take the new voters would vote remain 70-30 the current state of the electorate based on the 2016 result would be 55% remain 45% leave just on demographics alone. The fact that it's a complete economic train wreck isn't even factored in
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  33. Good idea open an application centre in Calais pulls the rug from under the traffickers at a stroke
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  34. You can give them a seaweed feed supplement which reduces methane by 80%
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  35. Houses prices are artificially high due to government policies, prices have risen by 66% since 2010 while wage growth is -7%
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  36. You got Brexit were not in the EU
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  37. @fabnobody8316  your daily dose of toxic conspiracy theories completely truth free Guess it takes allsorts I'll live in the real world and give X a miss
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  38. So the answer to the shtshow that is Brexit is more Brexit Forage is still the sht stain at the bottom of politics
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  39. Weve had 14 years of Austerity and lack of Infrastructure investment to deliberately make it feel a problem Any half decent government if it planned to expand the population would have invested to take account of that, there were always mechanisms within the eu to do it the tories chose not to use them ​@andyquelch5754
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  40.  @barrymay8269  You voted for one that started drinking at lunchtime and had winetimefriday Given he's threatening to close all the bars in Westminster they will have to work for a change
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  41. It certainly is and Farage along with the Tories is responsible
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  42.  @maxwild1212  that you will be forever poorer and generations will hate the Tories to the core for what they have done 7 years on and there still lying about benifits and now saying oh but we didn't do it right
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  43. As temperatures rise it Weakens the Polar Vortex you can end up with unprecedented cold spells
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  44. And who are we going to sell it too? the 2 main trade blocks in the world the US and EU have told us to go swivel
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  45. The top 4% pay it and you'd need to be stupid if you couldn't figure out the exceptions to pass on anywhere from 1 -2 million to your kids
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  46. Replace one liar with another not a great idea
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  47. They can walk into a job over in Europe anytime its a desired occupation all you need is a foreign language My mate's daughter is learning German intends to emigrate as soon as she's qualified
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  48. Thatcher started selling off leases for the oil and gas fields Norway took a different approach and created a national oil company and put the profits in a wealth fund. What your seeing economically is Thatcherism unravelling
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  49. Blame the Conservatives it started with Thatcher we were just getting some sort of stability then the Cons get back and and lay waste to public services again treating everyone like shit has its consequences
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  50. Lib dems well get far more mp's why not Ed Davey?
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  51. You should have done he's turned your economy around after Trump put 8 trillion on the US tab
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  52. Purchase taxes are regressive the tax system is not taxing money created by wealth but by overtaking money created by work
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  53. Net zero will save energy consumers in the uk money Id also like to point out we the uk have subsidised fossil by around 500 billion since the Thatcher era.
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  54.  @0019808  the reason the Asylum bill is 3.5 billion is just incompetence. Vote for clowns get a circus
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  55. Why? I don't need a benefit I need the tax thresholds going up not 20 billion blown on an NI gimmick that was totally unfunded
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  56. Its called freedom of expression why are you pushing for a fascist state?
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  57. Its over Boris lost the soft power of frictionless trade and other EU freedoms has already re-routed the NI supply chain and disconnected trade from GB. The minute the deal was signed firms that understood its impact shifted supply and stopped using GB as a land bridge, since Jan trade from GB to NI has sunk through the floor it all goes Cherbourg - Rosslare in fact the EU and Ireland have been prepping for no deal the port has been expanded and the routes to NI have been improved. The DUP have only 12% backing in the latest poll and NI businesses are desperate for the Protocol to be fully enacted and the longer this goes on the worse that figure will get as NI prospers as GB suffers th full shtshw that is Brexit.
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  58.  @mememachine5244  me too but nothing I've heard regarding IHT would affect me. There closing loopholes not changing the rate or allowance. The SIPP change I believe is to roll back the Millionaire pension tax break the Tories put in in 2023. My main concern is for my son and people like him who have become trapped in the Tories low wage economy.
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  59. You can give them a seaweed feed supplement which reduces methane by 80% The biggest issue with cows is water usage 68-155 litres per day if in milk even grown for meat there huge consumers of water You can turn the manure into biogas
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  60.  @SanderBelt-qz2ue  There's only 13 million leavers left demographics and age of the leave vote Younger voters entering the rolls are pro Europe by 2020 you were asking working remain voters who were 65%+ to implement something they didn't believe in
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  61. They could have taken furlough money but they chose to fire then rehire after the pandemic on worse terms Same with pilots and cabin crews there's a shortage of those as well as restrictions on licencing due to non equivalence of standards ahhh every time we get rid of one of those pesky EU rules that were so onerous no one even knew they were there it creates mountains of paperwork or kills of people's livelihoods and job prospects. Following the UK's withdrawal from the European Union, pilots with UK pilot licences are no longer able to fly EU registered aircraft companies are changing policy to hiring EU staff only.
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  62. The protocol is already in action just kind of in a soft way, the businesses in NI have been realigning their supply chain with the South away from the UK because Brexit. Why the Cons and the DUP are having a meltdown is the plan was to use NI as leverage, the assumption by the Brexiteers was they could someone either force the South to leave the EU or break the EU market and still keep frictionless trade. What has happened is the EU supply chain has rerouted through Cherburg -Roslare and has abandoned GB as a land bridge with all the lost trade that entails for GB. It leaves the Brexiteers with FA leverage and a morphing situation of Irish unification in all but name.
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  63. The whole exercise was pointless anyway there was nothing stopping immigration being more tightly controlled its standard Conservative policy to depress wages as low as possible you do that by NOT regulating and having an endless supply side Labour Pool. If you run a supply side Trickle down economic model as the Cons do then the obvious place to get Labour from if your not in the EU is the Indian sub Continent.
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  64. For ....... 100 billion in unfunded tax cuts fracking even more water polution and privatised nhs
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  65. We voted 64% to join the commo market This story is the usual poor journalism from the Torygraph
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  66.  @zaftra  which reality are you living in? People in the workforce < 2019 GDP < 2019 Falling living standards reduced choice in shops Enjoy your turnip
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  67. there in hotels because of austerity cuts to the home office A £1 saved is 10,000 cost down the line
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  68. The taxes are high because of a decade and a half of Conservative Thatcherism and Brex1t, that answer applies to migration as well.
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  69. It is goods exports are down by 7.4%, services are up but we should have done even better Last few years the banks have moved over 1 trillion in deposits from London to the EU Outside London the economy is completely fked
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  70. Grey was up for a promotion then told after the report she was sidelined (Reported in the Times) so keep up the fantasy stuff
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  71. EU haven't done anything we chose to become a 3rd country so we follow 3rd country rules its also in the WTO rules that you can't give preferential treatment.
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  72. Tax is rising by 30 billion due to fiscal drag your 20% rate should be 14500
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  73. She was sacked because the Tories lost another 2 points in the polls last week down to 23% and Labour gained 3 to 47%
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  74. ​ @purplehaze8557 it's a Westminster thing to feed the Gammons a distraction
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  75. They can't the legal side is driven by their economic policies and there were no boats prior to 2010
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  76. Bojo delivered it Frost negotiated it Sunak implemented it The advisory vote to leave the EU didn't Include the Single Market its the Cons that insisted it did so you need a hard border, the Irish don't want Englands shyte economic car crash Brexit and have voted a majority pro protocol parties at every election Why do you want to inflict our economic misery on NI?
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  77. Sunak is useless with normal people he has zero connection
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  78. What values are those ? stealing from the middle and working class to give to the rich with trickle down or preformative cruelty with Rwanda or getting the poverty rate in children above 25%
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  79. Freedom to be economically poorer have less workers rights and have companies pollute at will
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  80.  @gregsmith7821  He doesn't realise that the tax base didn't change for 2 decades till Sunak became chancellor, taxes have never gone down in the 14 years they've been in charge
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  81. Brexit will never be over because it was sold on lies and the likes of Farage's toxic racism As an economic project its a total failure
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  82. Tax thresholds are frozen till 2028 taxes will go up by 30 billion on PAYE alone dwarfing the 9 billion bribe on NI Corporate tax up from 10 to 25% + The country is falling apart after 14 years of Austerity
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  83.  @collier8931  where do you get that rubbish from?
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  84. Its due to the Tories running supply side economics aka Thatcherism it doesn't work without supply side labour
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  85. We derive no benifit from them anyway the way government gets short term money in for leasing to then give huge tax breaks and other benefits to fossil companies means there is huge public subsidies to create a failed business model which we subsidise. Tax breaks = corporate welfare as in socialism for corporations and the rich.
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  86.  @Fadingfool  You don't have access to the oil or gas has this crisis taught you nothing? It goes on the world commodity market where private companies buy it on the WORLD open market. I have solar and thermal solar and also made the effort to double insulate the house when we had upgrades done a few years back. Investing in insulation and an energy source that is completely disconnected from the wholesale energy price is the best investment I ever made on current prices my capital cost will have repaid itself in 8 years.
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  87. Part of the increased temperature trend weakens the polar Vortex, my Brother lives in Norway near Oslo they had -28 one day last week  @Fubar-fomo 
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  88. Quote from an article in the FT Northern Ireland success due to EU Jonathan Portes, professor of economics at King’s College London, said that “Northern Ireland has done better” because the Protocol allows it to be part of the EU single market. Fresh data comes after last month it emerged Northern Ireland was the only region in the UK with increasing imports for the first half of 2021, compared to the same period last year. The statistics show Northern Ireland performed better than any other part of the UK, with Britain’s overall economic recovery falling 2.1 per cent over the same period.
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  89. He's as Thatcherite as they come Could be that Thatcherism Austerity and Populism have zero to offer which is why with every iteration of the Conservatives things just get worse
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  90. Since we left the eu both legal and illegal migration has skyrocketed- coincidence? I dont think so Brexsh1t the gift that keeps on giving
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  91. My brother lives in Norway just north of Oslo its been up to -28 The problem is our infrastructure isn't designed for ultra cold or over hot or monsoon conditions even in Norway this is strange weather but at least they have appropriate levels of insulation
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  92. That is some cool aid she is drinking the Tories are toast and could end up as the 3rd party
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  93.  @belindataylor4600  debt to gdp was 62% when Labour left office for most of their term it was 40% the rise was due to the banking bail outs Debt to gdp by 2016 was 82% Austerity was still crushing the economy Osbourne decided to lower corporation tax it produced no visible increase in economic activity and went straight to debt by 2016 debt ratio was 92% so in today's money 10% represents 310 billion where now at 99% debt to gdp and to pay for Trickle down and Austerity policies that haven't worked for 13 years your tax base will rise from 33% to 37% The only time the tax base has been lower in the last 3 decades was the short period of 2016 to 2019 at 32% which added billions to debt
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  94.  @andrewoliver8930  Is that from the book of Mogg
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  95. So what are the effects of taxing graduates to the hilt and a policy that punishes those that wish to take a University degree then importing the same same skills from the Indian sub continent on cheaper wages depressing the wages from the top and middle which pushes wages down throughout the economy. Surely we should be importing workers to do jobs at the bottom end and training up people in the UK to do the skilled jobs?
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  96. Frozen thresholds mean real time tax increases 12250 should be 15000 And tinkering with NI doesnt affect pensioners many on low incomes who faced fuel poverty this winter, now councils are shutting down libraries
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  97.  @ruairi110  The EU don't need political union the Brexiteers have handed Ireland economic union, it doesn't matter what the Unionists want the major supply chains are already changed and trade NI to GB is through the floor. The UK government can't abandon the protocol all they can now do is gaslight the Unionists over it because it's too late, the only time they could get away with this was a no deal that fleeting window is a long way in the past.
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  98. Going Net zero Costs 6% GDP oh no we must stop it now? Wait Not going Net Zero costs 13% GDP Oh no we must GO Faster But Brexit costs us 5.5% GDP already we can afford that?
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  99. @strakermidwich9679  A lot of our plants haven't gone dormant till recently due to abnormal high seasonal temperatures and last year we lost our entire apple and pear crop due to a late frost and I mean really late. Abnormal weather events affect the food chain in a variety of ways most notably making it more expensive so mock all you like as you pay more for less
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  100. It will cost 40 billion a year over 10 years Volatility in gas prices is costing UK consumers + 140 billion in excess energy costs Going net zero is a no brained on economic grounds alone
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  101. This channel bangs on about deregulation endlessly and here are the results of lack of employment regulations and enforcement Same with the raw sewage in the rivers you can't champion deregulation with one mouth then complain when it's used to shit on people with the other
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  102. billionaires telling us what we need, bit of an irony there don't you think?
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  103. Neoliberal economic policies drive higher legal migration, if you invest in UK skills as Labour are intending the demand on net migration will go down
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  104.  @sandragray3951  There refugees, enact stupid policies get stupid prizes We've left the Dublin accord and borders have 2 sides, all Patel's policies will do is make things worse cost millions of pounds and achieve nothing but then there not designed to achieve anything are they? Ever wondered why there allowing high skilled workers in from the Indian Sub Continent and the Philippines while at the same time trying to force people to take on all the shit low paid jobs?
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  105. ​ @Bobisalive  me neither but Brown was lightyears a better Chancellor than anything the Tories have offered
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  106. It's just Theatre read the judgment the Rwanda scheme is illegal on multiple levels of UK and International Treaty law
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  107. we virtually have thats why businesses are failing trade is down and no major company will invest in UK PLC
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  108.  @zoeathomson4305  I agree it needs lowering but you can't do that without having a grown up conversation on what's driving it. Your cheap Uber is paid for with migration, lack of investment in nurses is paid for with migration even fruit picking if the government invested in automation you'd reduce the need. The elites don't want to pay the taxes that would solve a lot of these issues or even talk about it because it opens a Pandora box that thier economic model that makes them wealthy is a key driver
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  109. Its better than the Conservatives alternative Lets be clear the Con solution is always privatisation while the problem is never ending Tory cuts, 40 billion spent on Track and Trace with a private company.
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  110. If Nige says something I'd double treble check the facts he's not exactly best buddies the truth
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  111.  @kevinnorthfield5097  she's paid her tuition fees why shouldn't she the Tories are always telling people to get a better job if they feel there not getting paid enough. Just taking government advice
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  112. Brexit has already failed, Cummings thinking was they could push Ireland out side the EU which has failed and divide and conquer as the EU project collapsed which has also failed leaving GB stuck. The rolling car crash to the economy will continue were only half implemented in terms of checks with biometric passports to be implemented in September and UKCA sometime this year adding yet more costs and delays to GB businesses.
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  113. There is and always was a 100 and 1 flavours of Brexit from Singapore on Thames with the lunatic libertarians to a full Norway. You have the English Nationalist Populist Faction (Boris Boys) The UK Nationalist Populist Faction (Boris Boys + DUP) The Libertarian Faction (ERG) The Covid research group (Anti-vax lockdown nutters) The Net zero Scrutiny Group (bought and paid for by the fossil lobby) Northern Research Group (deluded northerners that thought Tories actually gave a shit about the north) So there is no answer to Brexit its a never ending internal Tory war
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  114. you wouldn't put your trust in people who voted in Liz Truss to do anything sensible
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  115. ​@user-wn1dl3kk6r we've been members of the echr since 1952, my dad fought against fascism to get those rights so you can sod off giving them away
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  116. how about complaining at the 8 billion he gave to bankers or the 2 billion he gave to millionaire pensioners or the 6 billion he gave to the fossil industry?
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  117. what a waste reform are just rehashed tired right wing policies that support thr billionaire class you have too much money or something?
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  118. And who's farms are worth more than 5 million ? Oh yea Clarkson
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  119. Going Net zero Costs 6% GDP oh no we must stop it now? Wait Not going Net Zero costs 13% GDP Oh no we must GO Faster But Brexit costs us 5.5% GDP already we can afford that? Why can't we afford to save 7% GDP?
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  120. You've got a high level of tax because of Con policies one of the main one's being Brexit the thing that you champion the most is the biggest factor in your tax bill
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  121. Is Brexit to Blame - easy one yes See Project Fear I mean Yellowhammer for details
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  122. You don't elect a PM you vote for an MP
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  123. Sunak gets credit for not being a complete lunatic like Truss and then puts a budget forward that adds £1000 to most peoples tax bills and gives millionaire pensioners a tax break Trickle down economics at its finest non for thee all for me
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  124. The rail bosses got 6% in September the workers have had a pay freeze for 2 years running
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  125. Why don't you like employment rights?
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  126. What's horrifying about cheaper energy lower taxes and a working nhs
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  127. Heavy industry was deliberately killed by Thatcher the car industry had made a bit of a comeback but that has got killed by brexit The issue for major manufacturing is the complete demolition of the on-demand supply chain Johnson's brexit deal has completely fked it with delays massive red tape and paperwork
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  128. So what's the plan to get rid of all the paperwork red tape and repair the broken on demand supply chain? EU retain law bill? which its estimated will add 85 billion in costs to the already hammered businesses who are spending an arm and a leg on Johnson's hard Brexit as it is This guy is fkin cluless there never was a plan and never will be 7 years on and nothing but additional costs broken promises
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  129. Northern Ireland have it minted under the current deal free market access to the EU and GB Which idiot would want the thousands of pages of import / export documents and all the veterinary certificates plus 20 mile border tailbacks and a stagnant economy that good old blighty now has.
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  130. It's a universal credit introduced by Brown now a supplemental uplift topension credit Thank Sunak for the unfunded NI cut And Further NI cuts were going to be paid for by increasing the pension age and reclassified disabled as fit to work
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  131. Lower taxes never equates to lower taxes for the middle / lower class They lower your headline rate then put the burden on purchase taxes you actually pay more as a portion of your income in tax the lower down the economic scale you are. With tax the rich are forever on about tax fairness but its a straight lie someone at the bottom on minimum wage pays a huge proportion of their income + capital in tax the further you go up the scale the less you pay as a proportion so reducing the headline rate has a disproportionate affect on the overall tax take.
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  132.  @shanjanusman9974  That's Conservative supply side economic policy nothing to do with the EU and it will get way worse now they can lower standards and undercut what little industry is left. Did the German car industry collapse because of the EU? When Germany unified they put 2 trillion into leveling up the East what have the Cons put into the north bar empty promises
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  133. I remember and just out of interest went and checked their record Well funded services Introduction of the minimum wage average wages rose +25% GDP per capita rose to 50,000 Lets compare shall we were now worse of in terms of disposable income than we were in 2006 GDP per Capita has shrunk to 45,000 (US who were similar in 2010 is now 72,000) Our economy was 90% of Germany's it's shrunk to 70%
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  134.  @TimoX-e2v  The fact that everything has been so disastrous after installing a populist clown in Boris to then want another one in Nigel is baffling to me as well
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  135. NI voted to remain within the EU by a large margin (55%) an even larger margin want the Protocol enacted through negotiation with the EU (59%) the UK government need to crater the deal before it becomes too obvious how well NI is doing with unfettered access to the single market compared to the UK. Quote from an article in the FT Northern Ireland success due to EU Jonathan Portes, professor of economics at King’s College London, said that “Northern Ireland has done better” because the Protocol allows it to be part of the EU single market. Fresh data comes after last month it emerged Northern Ireland was the only region in the UK with increasing imports for the first half of 2021, compared to the same period last year. The statistics show Northern Ireland performed better than any other part of the UK, with Britain’s overall economic recovery falling 2.1 per cent over the same period.
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  136. Nige talks utter bilge he appears to know nothing about anything he's the guy at the end of the bar talking endless bollox
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  137.  @Innoruuk  Its going shit companies all across the board are struggling with trade due to the huge insane levels of paperwork now needed not to worry when they go bankrupt we can just import more stuff from the EU
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  138.  @lewis123417  Identical to the UK then we've moved from a northern European economy to a southern one in 7 years. UK GDP in 2016 was 90% of Germany's its now 70% and falling we have a birth rate of 1.6 an aging population a crumbling health service and zero way of decreasing the debt to GDP ratio which is set to peak at 103% Employment is still below 2019 levels GDP is still below 2019 levels our home grown food production has fallen from 60% to 50% with government policy deliberately trying to shut farms down and downgrade food standards to import low quality cheap from abroad. This week saw noticeable food shortages what's next ration books?
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  139. Already is
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  140. Labour's worker regulation policy will reduce demand for legal migration as will their economic policy If you don't regulate and invest in your domestic workforce as the Cons don't you need to import skills
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  141. He's paying for it with cuts due in next year 1st present for a Labour government 20 billion in Austerity cuts The guy really is a Hunt
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  142. Do you have Stockholm syndrome? This is the worst uk government measured by economic statistics ever. The 1st time you will go into the ballot box after a 5 year term and be poorer than when you voted before
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  143.  @RodFleming-World  so where were you going to put the border then back in Ierland to fire up the troubles and break the Good Friday agreement? All you people seem to known how to do is destroy and break things and offer nothing in the way of solutions
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  144. We have left the EU completely what are you on about
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  145.  @alexander92179  Parties supporting and wanting to make the protocol work received 59% of the initial vote
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  146.  @alexander92179  17% of the population voted Alliance this idea that you need to support a party of your own Religion needs scrapping the current power sharing needs to go unfortunately the septic boil that is the Conservative party may well restart the troubles if there not careful, the mere fact that they keep stoking this rhetoric is utter madness
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  147. There's no commandments left for him to break wonder what deal he did with the Devil to garner the souls of the Evangelicals
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  148. When the problem is right wing Economic policy Your answer is doubling down on stupid?
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  149. How does leaving a tarrif free paper free red tape free zone 20 miles away with roll on roll off ferry access be anything other than economic suicide?
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  150. Why would you give up your human rights? It's the last bastion against government overreach you'd be mental to support leaving
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  151. It would make a nice change if they had a clue about economics. Freezing thresholds especially at 20% takes money out of the working economy at the bottom If you spend it on millionaire pensioner taxbreaks and IHT nearly all of it gets transfered to asset values your deliberately shrinking the economy
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  152. Steadied how ? We borrowed 130 billion last year and he's economically clueless
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  153.  @lindark28  Last time labour were in power the NHS worked and wages grew in real terms 13 years of Austerity Trickle Down Supply Side economics (AKA Thatcherism) and were all screwed not just the economy
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  154.  @robj8201  The Cons put a border down the Irish sea via the Irish protocol which Parliament enacted into law as part of Johnson's oven ready deal. Its done move on no backsies
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  155. There refugees and 80% of the cases are accepted even with our draconian and grossly inefficient immigration system
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  156. There's a whole load of ripple effects going back to 2016 1st the currency devalued by 30% 2nd Investment in UK Plc fell like stone also many international companies started relocating headquarters into the EU The figures I've seen are the economy is 10% smaller than it would have been if we voted yes in 2016 in real terms that's around 250 billion the 100 billion is just Brexit shock as our economy and trading shrinks By the way that 100 billion would generate 33 billion in tax the 250 billion 82 billion in tax and people wonder why taxes are so high
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  157. We'll get plenty of reform from Labour Good riddance to right wing rubbish
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  158. Anyone praising the Truss budget should be banned from even talking about the economy
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  159. Its not like they will have to put up tax Sunak has done it for them all they need is to realign higher rates like CGT close loopholes stop giving bungs to the rich and we can have working services again
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  160. Lib Dem Brexit would have been a Norway mirror not this shtshow
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  161. The consensus is things will get worse and everyone will notice their tax Thresholds have been frozen AGAIN and will be till 2028
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  162.  @fredsmith5473  ? We've had 12 years of Tory ecenomic stagnation and incompetence culminating with the current shower and there the best of a bad lot? Did you know they have the worst economic figures in 150 years the highest tax burden in 80 years and yet everything else would be worse how's that work?
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  163. This is the end
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  164. Any gas extracted isn't ours it belongs to private companies and is sold on the open market. Apart from permanently scarring the landscape fracking requires 100's of millions of gallons of water which it turns into a toxic goop and each well lasts 2/3 years before you move to the next one
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  165. They may be run better now that's progress
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  166. Got nothing to do with his sexuality. I've known quite a few straight guys that couldn't keep thier hands off woman and then there's the drugs.
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  167. His policy is just another show PONY, the UKIP visa scheme was adopted by the Tories and the result is migration has trebled
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  168. Blame the Tories there the Architects
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  169. Net zero will boost gdp by onshoring energy jobs and reducing electricity costs
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  170.  @billbo7630  you have the same trickle down supply side economics aka Thatcherism as you did during her years Unlike then there is no Oil Money or public assets they can strip to waste on tax cuts for the wealthy therefore the tax burden needs to rise on workers
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  171. He didn't have to he could have put a meaningful windfall tax on the expected 170 billion in EXCESS energy profits and used that he didn't because ideology and war profits are somehow OK in a Tory mindset
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  172. What do you want? Currently were in cloud cuckoo land with trade, our real goods trade is down -7% from 2019 if that keeps happening the country gets poorer and taxes go up to compensate for the loss of revenue
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  173. Le Pen would have provided the refugees in Dover with boats, let's be quite clear here
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  174. so you think there going to close your account? Do you have over 1 million? do you receive payments from foreign banks? do you have unexplained wealth?
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  175. for what? Tax expert Dan Needle who outed Zehawai said there was nothing to see
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  176.  @colinsmith1288  Rayner being there is just as irrelevant as the food and drink go read the government guidelines for running a safe campaign may2021
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  177. 80% have their claims for asylum accepted and we have some of the most draconian standards around Refugees in the system has balloned from <10,000 in 2010 to over 70,000 with 40,000 being in it for over a year Over those 12 years funding to the home office to deal with Refugees has been cut the fast track system has been dropped and more bureaucracy has been put in place its almost like its been made not to work on purpose for political grandstanding
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  178. It was 1,25 million and 1/2"were dependents As for growth Brexit has been choking our economy since we left the EU 60% of an economic recovery is by small businesses who have basically had a market of 440 million 20 miles away cut off, small businesses don't have the resources to cope with Brexits endless red tape and bureaucracy
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  179. Not used cash since the pandemic except too pay the builder under the counter. Which appears to be what this rant is about
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  180.  @ancietman  since 2016 our economic decline due to the Brexit vote and subsequent policies is around 1 trillion in GDP That includes projected investment actual losses currency devaluation reduced trade and reduced output Since we left the EU the GDP of the EU has expanded by more than our GDP removal for the total (3.13 trillion USD) Germany since 2016 to now earn 25-30% more in average wages Whichever way you cut it Brexit has been a complete economic disaster which just keeps screwing our economy harder and harder
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  181. Sigh it reduces your energy bills I have thermal solar with current gas prices capital cost is paid for in 6 years and after that 75% of my hot water is FREE i've uprated the insulation in my home put in a new boiler and switched to underfloor heating it will stop coming on in April and not switch back on again till October, energy usage is 20% of previous. There are loads of net zero examples
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  182. we were already borrowing 130 billion and she wanted to give an extra 100 billion to the rich @BRMCaptChaos 
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  183. It doesn't get any better in fact it will only get worse as the effects of al the additional costs of not having a trade deal with the EU filter into ever increasing prices UKCA for example will kill off most small business manufacturing exports
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  184. So for the 1st time since Wilson we will get a centre left government and you want me to not vote for them how strange? have you not noticed our rivers and sea are dying from pollution our schools and hospitals crumbling around you?
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  185. Last time Labour were in government services were well funded and average wages grew by +20% It was the most successful period of economic growth in in the countries history built on education and creation of a skilled workforce for the service sector
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  186. he lost last time he will loose this time
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  187. simple process them so 40,000 are deported and the others are working in the economy easy peasy
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  188. ​@PeteH0121 40% of people on benefit are in work, and we spent 20 billion on housing support last year as we spiral ever closer to a low wage underclass living in poverty conditions having to be subsidesd by the state. There isn't enough affordable housing and wages are too low most of this the result of Austerity and a lack of investment
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  189. If your occupying a country by force then bad things happen This goes back to basically England invading Ireland and being its ruler for centuries partition was a mess. There are 3 power blocks in the world and we aren't one of them anymore get used to it
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  190.  @ADUAquascaping  it would be higher if we had decent accommodation as in council houses so low income families had somewhere affordable and permanent to live + affordable childcare My son is on 30p above minimum wage 9 gcse's 4 A levels and 2 diploma's with 4 years experience we have a low wage economy average wages since 2010 have dropped by -6.1%. GDP per capita is -10%
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  191. The EU zone is bigger now than before we left so its already increased by 2 trillion we on the other hand have a completely stagnant economy
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  192. A more managed economy and tighter worker regulation will reduce legal migration. Legal migration is a feature not a bug of Con economic policy
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  193. The reason they can't take heat pumps is 2 fold there not insulated to any standard at all and they don't have the electrical capacity if your heating a leaky building you need 3 phase Aside from that he's 4 years out of date fracking isn't economically viable and renewables achieved parity with gas back in 2019 + EV's reached parity with ICE this year and that's before economies of scale kick in. Our housing stock is the worst insulated in Europe and he's not even offering A+ insulation standards fkin joke of a party like the Tories
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  194. Common sense is you go with the cheapest energy source which is renewable Watering down insulation building targets is fkin stupid they should have been upped over a decade ago
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  195. we pulled out of the European security groups because Brexit Jesus said so. We will re-enter various European security and cooperation groups under Labour just like we've had to do with Horizon and Galileo @Deeps__ 
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  196. You should have stopped at why would anyone vote Tory
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  197. If the Cons pass this bill it will tank the markets so badly and consign the party to the dustbin of history the Liz Truss minibuses will look like a trail run
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  198. The lie about Starmer was started and promoted by Patriotic Alternative (PA) is a British far-right white nationalist group which states that it has active branches nationwide. Throw gasoline on that fire and it was almost guaranteed to blow up the fact that it has done so so quickly shows how corrupted and toxic the Tory alliance with UKIP and BNP voters to get Brexit done has become.
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  199. Johnson was a clown you can put a clown in a Palace he doesn't become a king the Palace becomes a circus
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  200. You've got to laugh Suella's antics knocked another 2 points of the Tories in the Polls last week dragging them down to 23% boosting Labour by 3 points to 47% she encouraged far right Yobo's to congregate and 6 policemen were injured in the melee and she represents millions? Who are they the ones that down 14 pints then go around the street with a lit flair up their ars3
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  201. They won't but if the issue is right wing economic policy that needs a constant supply of migrant Labour why will voting for a Party that promises the same economic model but by the power of magic Unicorns doesn't need the migrant Labour? If you want lower immigration you need to change the tax model increase taxes and spend it on training the domestic workforce as well as other infrastructure spending
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  202. A cup of cold sick is more popular than Sunak it's not a high bar
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  203. Why would anyone vote Reform thier economic policies would Tank the economy even further?
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  204.  @brianholmes849  the Cons sold you out your best bet is to have a robust protocol and an Indipendant assembly that considers themselves NI otherwise if they keep this shitshow up then unfication will just keep cropping up.
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  205. If the world switches to renewables it will save trillions of dollars as well as reduce polution across the globe. There are numerous studies out there as wind and solar have been the cheapest on the grid since 2019 We spend huge sums subsidising fossil extraction and even more on environmental clean up Also 40% of shipping is dedicated to moving fossil fuel around
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  206.  @stevejones2310  the thing with renewable energy is you need the small scale distributed as well as major plant it spells the death of the huge multicorprations who will fight tooth and nail to maintain there fossil profits
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  207.  @bobjames6622  you can run a passive house entirely off solar and a powerbank with minimal grid pull. I could build a wind turbine from an old washing machine motor and some plastic pipe don't be stupid think these things through
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  208.  @seanhuds7351  why has it been allowed to grow like this higher numbers where processed during the Iraq war is sheer utter incompetence
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  209.  @rich8305  of course he's serious who wants to keep paying 8 billion for zero results
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  210. Why do you delude yourself that there is more to it than this were a 3rd country having to obey 3rd country rules to trade to and from the EU which is 20 miles away with a border in the channel and a border down the Irish sea.
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  211. In what way? There economic policies are the same as Liz Truss and will tank the markets and they were all in on leaving the EU which has tripled migration
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  212. why would you get even more with Labour it makes no economic or political sense
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  213. From Osborne to H unt successive Tory Chancellors have made the wrong call at every opportunity Buildings are literally falling down around us Cancelling a landmark infrastructure project to then divert the money to fill potholes in London just about sums up The Tories tenure
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  214. Yea like who'd vote for endless delays to freight thousands of pages of documentation which cost GB business 7.5 billion plus PA, have to buy new computer systems to deal with the endless VAT (4 -> 24+) codes the 60% limit on origin of goods that also needs a new computer system to track components origin plus UKCA on the horizon so more money down the toilet in dual certification. Come on NI step up to the plate and suffer like your ex GB buddies ;) don't make Frostie and Bozo look like complete clowns
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  215. ​ @Si_Mondo our credit rating was going down no one wanted to lend us 50+ billion for tax cuts for the wealthy which did fk all to boost economic growth
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  216.  @benstern310  Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a person's flushed face when expressing their strong opinions
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  217.  @Jezza_One  Scotland 92% renewable Norway 93% renewable Danemark 60% renewable not seen any reports on any of those countries having wide ranging power cuts? Strange maybe it's a conspiracy? What Danemark and Norway have in common is 2% inflation fancy that is it a coincidence there not getting fleeced on gas prices ?
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  218. Even more money from your wage packets as they collapse the economy with Truss style policies and collapse pension funds
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  219. There paying no tax There is a tax break on exploration and tax credits of up to 75 billion to clean up Disused and spent North Sea Rigs and infrastructure Wind energy is 17% part of the UK mix it is the cheapest form of energy on the market and has been since 2019 at the gas price peak it was 12.5 x cheaper it is still cheaper by x 3 to crack hydrogen gas from water with surplus Wind energy than the cost of natural gas you can run an 20/80 mix on current gas infrastructure of Hydrogen to NG reducing consumption by a fifth. Why do we not do this simples the fossil lobby distributed energy production breaks the profit model of large global corporations
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  220.  @Petal4822  what sovereignty we have lost tons leaving gained non
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  221. And I thought we couldn't get any lower With Truss and Johnson
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  222. 8 years on with demographic changes alone the Vote would be remain 55% that doesn't take into account the economic train wreck that it is You've had your chance time to admit you were wrong
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  223. So services were funded tax was lower and we had economic growth last time Labour in
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  224. GBN is a propaganda channel for billionaire friendly policies
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  225. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about You can't cut taxes we have a debt to gdp ratio of > 100% and the people buying Gilts think the Brexit Ultra's are talking out of their arse over growth Before anyone starts banging on about Labour here are some facts 2010 gdp ratio 62% 2019 gdp ratio 92% due to the Cameron corporate tax cuts which didn't stimulate growth and went straight on the uk credit card 2023 we have less people in full time employment than in 2019 the economy has shrunk in real terms since then accounting for inflation economists predict it should be +10% which = around 80 billion in lost tax revenues if we where still in the single market and had FOM
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  226. Fossil companies don't want a free market, the get 10's of billions in subsidies from the UK alone
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  227. The other candidates are as bad or worse
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  228. Renewable energy is cheaper has been since 2019 if we had more of it our bills would be lower by a LOT
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  229. Brexit is done fishing is what it is because we're a third country outside the Single Market NI have it minted with free access to the single market and GB the barriers that GB exporters to NI suffer are the same as exporting to any part of the single market
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  230. I think they should stop being so blinkered and biased and put some Labour, Green & Lib-Dem people on who can point out the complete sham that is the Reform platform
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  231. its 0.25% its just a 300 million pound show pony
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  232. since 2016 our economic decline due to the Brexit vote and subsequent policies is around 1 trillion in GDP That includes projected investment actual losses currency devaluation reduced trade and reduced output Since we left the EU the GDP of the EU has expanded by more than our GDP removal for the total (3.13 trillion USD) Germany since 2016 to now earn 25-30% more in average wages Whichever way you cut it Brexit has been a complete economic disaster which just keeps screwing our economy harder and harder 2010 GDP = 2.491 trillion 2023 GDB = 3.131 trillion 2010 Figure adjusted for inflation would be 3.645 trillion we are 500 billion worse off than in 2010 thank you Tories and your lying arsewipe policies for making us poorer
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  233. what you were sold was always a political solution to an unsolvable problem the economy was always going to shrink and quickly when we left the single market. The intention was a deregulated Singapore on Thames sweeping up all the European trade the EU shot that one dead the day after the vote in 2016 what we've ended up with is Argentina on the Channel
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  234.  @andrew30m  at 33% tax base that's 33 billion in lost taxes we have to foot the bill for
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  235. and we have low unemployment so they've all gone to other jobs Estimated vacancies across GB is 1.2 million
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  236. Caps won't affect current savers
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  237. There not supposed too what do you think Sunak's budget was designed to do but crush inflation by screwing the people at the bottom and middle this is a feature not a bug of Supply Side Economic policy (hint taxes are low at the top and for business) Why is supply-side economics controversial? Opponents of supply-side economics argue that rather than increasing revenue for the government, lowering taxes will instead increase the deficit. As a result, the government will have to cut programs or raise other taxes to make up for this shortfall, unless it wishes to run a permanent deficit.
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  238. So you want unelected civil servants changing UK law so much for sovereignty
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  239. The question has to be why Tory policy only helps the wealthy are you rich?
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  240. ​ @CB-hv2dg don't forget the lies and the cover up
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  241. We've implemented Brexit if they did it properly the country would grind to a halt because of import checks The more you diverge standards the more paperwork and additional costs you have businesses want divergence like a hole in the head
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  242.  @bimmeroo0906  the only thing agreed by it was leaving the EU that could mean a full Norway to no deal The version that is most extreme you wouldn't want if you got it it would make a small number of people very rich while 90% grubbed around in poverty and crush the economy outside London even harder than Thatcher did in the 80s
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  243. If you have record inflation of course the headline figure goes up. quote from the ONS Total goods exports fell by £0.1 billion (0.3%) in October 2023, after the effect of inflation is removed. Exports to the EU decreased by £0.9 billion (7.0%) Brexit checks, paperwork and red tape costs 10's of billions and also discourage small businesses from trading because its too hard. Were also paying tariffs on a lot of goods.
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  244. They can't enact any cuts because there still borrowing 130 billion a year its just theatre
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  245. Wearing the right sort of mask reduces the spread of infection The issue was always one of not enough medical capacity to cope with mass infection as was clearly demonstrated in Northern Italy and New York even Swedens light touch reinforces that general medical view.
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  246. This is it it won't get any better just worse. 99% of the regulations are there for workers companies benefits such as the work time directive, common standards on food to enable export/import Companies don't want the regulations scrapped it just creates even more paperwork
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  247.  @carlad2640  I'm retired and have the time to give you a free economics history lesson. During the Thatcher/Reagan era both changed from Keynesian demand side to Supply Side economics. This included globalisation and the use of supply side labour to boost GDP. To get elected both Clinton and Blair had to shift to what was called the new NeoLiberal consensus as Kinnock on a Keynesian economic platform had lost to Major in the previous election. So Labour didn't roll back what Thatcher had started and were now at the end of a 50 year cycle where the economic model is now shrinking the UK economy.
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  248. It was all political theatre to get you angry
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  249. ​ @West-End they can join the army at 16 Its been labour policy for over a decade
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  250. Narrr you still got Tory bandit economics
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  251. And a bunch of Eton Toffs with their hands in the public purse do? Starmer is about as middle of the road as you can get as for woke politics do you even know what woke means? Here I'll give you the definition "alert to injustice in society, especially racism" The Right wing are trying to make a virtue out of being a racist sexist homophobic A Hole and spinning anyone that disagrees as Woke or what used to be termed politically correct.
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  252. Its not just the one party this is the first of many to be reported and its not just about the mealy mouthed apology its the whole culture of lying by this cabinet. Not one of them want to take responsibility for anything
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  253. we pay for it now + the shareholder bonuses
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  254. Its ideology when your answer to everything is cut tax your not really addressing the problem. If you want less nurses from Nigeria you invest in training UK nurses if that means free University course for them so be it. If you want less fruit pickers you invest in the farmers so they can automate their harvest not just say get it from Morocco
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  255. Brexit will never be done because its a Con built on lies to keep laundromat London running its tax scams for the Billionaire class. They need NI to fail otherwise the optics of a thriving NI economy with acces to the single market and the GB market while GB is gripped in stagflation will bust open the myth
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  256. everything she said is rubbish The reason our energy prices are so high is rolling back Labour's 2010 green initiatives and tying our Grid to GAS Offshore wind is 2.5 times cheaper per unit than that generated from coal or nuclear
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  257. No one is joining the single market soon Mores the pity it would boost the economy by around 5%
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  258.  @andyquelch5754  nothing, H unt was on about 100k lifetime limit and also removing tapering for those on 100k+ and Sunak will pay for his tax breaks by pushing up retirement to 68.
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  259. It's underfunded The UK spends < 8% of its gdp on healthcare The equivalent Canadian system spends 10.5% of its gdp on healthcare The US has a private system with huge price gouging 10s of millions uninsured high instances of medical bankruptcy and they spend 17+% of GDP So stick your fact free racist xenophobic opinion in the trashcan
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  260. If he came up with valid points the world would die of shock
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  261. ​ @nightowl7459 when the problem is amplified by RW economics it will at least get better by shifting to a model that invests in the UK population Why do we import so many nurses simples we don't invest in our own
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  262. Blair oversaw a decade of wage and economic growth + well funded services most would bite your hand off to continue that legacy from 2010 instead of 13 years of Austerity stagflation crumbling services and reduced disposable income
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  263. GB has all but had a clean break, whining about Ireland aside we now follow 3rd country rules when trading with the EU so I don't get what more you think you'll get from ditching the small agreement we have but more tariffs and yet even more paperwork?
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  264. No it's Brexit all right thousands of pages of import / export documents never ending costs on vet certificates and a stagnant economy NI have it minted roro free market access to GB and completely free access to the single market will see an economic boom over ther I'm jealous
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  265. It's also one of the best locations on the planet for wind and tidal which you don't have to dig up, by the way we import most of our coal and don't own the oil and gas so it goes onto the world commodity market.
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  266. It's a dog and pony show if you sign up to it more fool you
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  267. the massive failure is relying on Gas Norway are 93% renewable and have 2% inflation
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  268. we've collected next to no tax from the brent fields for years and have put around 100 billion in various budgets in tax breaks for the next 5 years Meanwhile the cost of renewable energy has tumbled to new lows and where getting scalped by the energy companies for 170 billion in excess profits
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  269. Because conservative and right wing economic policies are what's driving high migration and low wages
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  270. reform are just pushing billionaire friendly policies you rich or something?
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  271. ​ @uniquevideosUk neither do you net migration is rising because of a lack of social and structural investment, if you want less foreign nurses you pony up the money and train your own Promising low tax is a complete Con job
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  272. The best interest of the business people in the UK is regulatory alignment for frictionless trade
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  273. The last thing you need is businessmen sticking their nose in running a service It's underfunded The UK spends < 8% of its gdp on healthcare The equivalent Canadian system spends 10.5% of its gdp on healthcare The US has a private system with huge price gouging 10s of millions uninsured high instances of medical bankruptcy and they spend 17+% of GDP Your business run hectare costs double and isn't fit for purpose
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  274.  @wavell14  on the American model it would cost twice as much and provide emergency cover to millions of poor only Have you ever studied how bad private healthcare is as a service at providing value, they have zero interest in anything other than turning a profit, there is little incentive in the private sector for preventative treatments when you can price gouge at the sharp end.
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  275. @angelafirst38  economy has been flattening since 2008 according to the macroeconomic data Only thing that pushes overall gdp Up has been migration. Your poorer now than in 2010 and the last government wore the worst in terms of growth in uk history.
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  276. We won the war on the back of US industrial might and we had a huge influx from Europe for example 20% of the Battle of Britain pilots were not British Another example there were 200,000 Poles under arms by 1945 a lot had made their way by various routes to the uk
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  277. What the ones who don't want towaste 1/2 a billion on a propaganda stunt Grow a brain
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  278. Always vote even if you think your candidate won't win not voting is admitting defeat and letting the Jackals win
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  279. ​ @roygreenwood79 tax cuts don't generate growth. The low corporate tax rate went straight to share buy backs and increased ceo pay. Go look at the Data
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  280.  @flabbybum9562  if you cut structural investment such as removing Bursaries for nursing places and reduce training places for doctors And Also depress salaries by 30% you both shrink the economy and cause high levels of immigration to replace the skills. Were attracting a Nigerian nurse to fill the place she fetches her husband and 2 kids. You look at the stats of the 1.25 million visas 1/2 were dependents. GDP per capita has fallen since 2010.
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  281. There economic policies are identical to Liz Truss's minus the supply side Labour And We know how that ended
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  282. Be a rare day when we get some from Farage
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  283. Yes let's look she wrote an independent report and immediately had any chance of promotion blocked by cabinet and was passed over for a senior role
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  284. What did you actually vote for though brexit meant a million and 1 things to a million and 1 different people?
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  285.  @janehalford4601  the Reds? Labour are Centre / Centre Left at best Blair was the last time this country saw any wage growth take it you like getting poorer?
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  286. Since when did they do anything for the average person they've been asset stripping this country for decades
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  287. The reason we need large amounts of migration is because of economic policy Low tax and lack of investment in the domestic workforce If you want lower migration vote for someone who will increase taxes and invest in UK social and physical infrastructure so we don't needs 1.25 million immigrant workers
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  288. why would you do that don't you like having human rights like the right to a fair trail? and since when will the UK give up its seat on the UN security council its lala land thinking same as usual
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  289. Pipe down there talking about using old disused airfields from ww2 and stuff like that, we have a golf course that's gone bankrupt which is a complete eyesore
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  290.  @pieterzuiddam  we can do stuff on energy
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  291. ​@leannechandley6282 given that Austerity + Thatcherism x Brexit is crushing the life out of the economy then better Ex In 2010 Osborne stopped nursing bursaries rolling it into university education resulting in escalating costs and declining student numbers 2023 because of Brexit we give a visa to a Nigerian nurse who fetches over her husband and kids No brexit minimal dependents no Tory win in 2010 nursing training numbers would be higher
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  292. Don't spend your 0.08% increase in GDP in 10 years all at once the fact is it wouldn't cover the latest brain fart idea of giving millionaire pensioners a tax break
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  293. How do you argue with pure bullsh1t?
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  294. So Conservative economic policy that's driven the economy into the toilet with a more extreme right wing badge how does that work?
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  295. / Th is is what leaving looks like what where you expecting?
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  296.  @sunrisesystems9280  far from it its intended to get people off their fossil addiction and also to sustainable farming The government subsidises fossil fuel by a huge amount
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  297.  @juliewills3592  you pay NI all your life and that's it poverty in old age, guess it helps them die quicker if they can't afford enough food heating and other bills
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  298. ​@run2cat4run it's partly that we have a large influx of students that spen a huge amount in the economy I'm unhappy with a move to undercut professional and middle class salaries with imported labour we need workers to replace retirees the Tory business model is shyte though
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  299. ULEZ expansion was a Tory Policy promoted by Shapps and he tied funding to it being implemented, the original ULEZ zone was introduced by Bojo So are the Tories Uturning all of a sudden?
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  300. ​@jjefferyworboys8138 only the rich do benifit since when is 1 million not rich?
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  301. she's not defending it just gobbing off, maybe she should get on Rishi's maths program the complete load of bollox she's been spewing
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  302. Quote Brexit has fuelled surge in UK food prices, says Bank of England policymaker Britons need to be kept aware of the cost of leaving the EU, says Swati Dhingra Brexit is contributing to a surge in food prices as the country heads into recession, a senior Bank of England policymaker has warned. You get what you vote for
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  303.  @keithmarshall8796  PFI was a Tory idea brought in by Major and finally ended in 2018 Taxes have remained the same for 2 decades with a tax base of 33% until Sunak became chancellor (Osborne put it up on middle and lower class with +5% VAT rise) The total of all Labour governments borrowing in Parliamentary history including Atlee is 500 billion while the Tories have borrowed 1.6 trillion since 2010. But hey who needs context and facts
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  304. It's the gin
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  305. They make up 5% of the population don't you think your being a bit of a drama queen?
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  306. By cutting funding to social infrastructure and leaving the EU they've both increased Net Migration and increased visas for dependants. They've also increased the majority of working people's tax Energy bills have increased Sewage in Rivers has increased and they've even managed to increase crime and strikes How many positives do you want?  @SouthEastMane 
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  307.  @RobinRother-gv3yf  My son is Autistic its a spectrum condition covering over 30 different markers every one classified with Autism is Unique. In terms of Sexuality and Gay / Trans you have the same thing a large majority of the population are aTypical the minority are a million and one flavours of a broad brush bucket every one of them is Unique in some way. And Migration has never been an issue what triggered this latest bout of xenophobic bigotry was the Cameron era decision to open the flood gates to unregulated GIG work which undermined local businesses. The GIG Economy firms offshored all their profits and imported huge numbers to work in the sector on low wages they in turn paid low rates of tax while simultaneously defunding public services. The people arriving did so because there was jobs that UK workers wouldn't do at wage rates they wouldn't accept the Tories run Supply Side Trickle Down Economics which only benefits the wealthy it needs a constant supply side labour pool to keep wages low and a deregulated environment with NO unions to work it was like the GIG economy was sent from Tory Heaven.
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  308. Tuff Boris sold you out the soft power of frictionless trade Freedom of Movement has already re-aligned the supply chain.
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  309.  @garrywynne1218  Only because you don't understand trade and integrated on demand supply chains.
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  310. Taxation on work has gone up but the UK tax base is still the lowest in Europe What does need addressing is someone in a detached house in Burnley worth 250,000 paying more in Rates than someone living in a luxury 8 million pound flat in Mayfair And a newly qualified nurse paying near 50 p in the £ tax while Sunak pays an effective rate of 21p on millions
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  311. They won't but if the issue is right wing economic policy that needs a constant supply of migrant Labour why will voting for a Party that promises the same economic model but by the power of magic Unicorns doesn't need the migrant Labour? If you want lower immigration you need to change the tax model increase taxes and spend it on training the domestic workforce as well as other infrastructure spending
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  312. I'm a centerist as well there both off the range. Until they stop with the reform and Thatcher obsession I'm out
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  313.  @myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288  I live in what was a blue wall sear it's now a Lib-Dems stronghold The naz1 lite candidate only got 5% while their national total was 15%
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  314.  @Astro_Shed  You say that but all the macro economic data says otherwise. The current economic decline stared under Osborne with Austerity. By defunding the Social floor he stopped the capitalist ladder from working properly. 14 years on we have a 2 year long recession and record legal migration trying to paper over the economic cracks
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  315. You do know renewable energy is cheaper than the alternative and has been since 2019? I mean why do you want to pay more for electricity? Reason ours shot through the roof was we where to reliant on gas and didn't have enough renewable capacity or. Infrastructure
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  316. ​ @steptay a robust benifts system increases GDP which increases tax take which can be spent on reducing taxes It's not a sunk cost just because you have people abusing it your wanting to cut off your nose to spite your face? Reducing benefits has zero economic benefits at our current level and creates economic damage.
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  317. ​ @rikmorley1729 that's economic suicide If you want to lower migration increase tax and invest in the domestic population
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  318.  @LIONS1966  The only viable so called successful Brexit was the deregulated free market Singapore on Thames the problem with that was the EU shut it down the day after the referendum and it creates huge wealth for 10% while 90% are low wage serf labour which isn't very popular with 90% of the new underclass. Also this version had unlimited legal migration (bit like what the Tories have done anyway).
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  319. There is next to no wage inflation in the system we are suffering from Supply Side Corporate inflation which is commodity based. There is also 1.3 million vacancies and full employment of the unemployment total on the books 1.5% are disabled or special needs 1.5% are unemployable (drink drugs crime feckless pick your poison) leaving a small percentage in the wrong place / wrong skills or just changing jobs/careers.
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  320.  @johnbrereton5229  pfffff you have a Libertarian Hard right Prime Minister a party full of the dregs of UKIP and somehow its not right wing gimme a break all the moderates and sane people were kicked out by Boris
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  321. We had imigration because we had the jobs that needed filling Osbourne and Cameron were all in on an unregulated zero hour gig economy no one in the UK wanted to work in it as a consequence we saw the jobs filled with migrant labour At the same time they ran down services with Austerity Don't blame migrant workers for government policy
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  322. I mean who wants lower bills, I mean those poor oil and gas companies how will their shareholders survive if the UK is energy Independence with abundant cheap renewable energy
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  323. If you want to reduce immigration you need to abandon Thatcherism change the tax model and invest in the UK not continously pull in cheap labour from abroad If you vote for right wing parties this is your lot unless your prepared to fundemantly change
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  324.  @stevec6427  you could do a lot of the heavy lifting with new AI resources allowing you to focus your human resources in the right places
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  325. It's 1.25 million and 1/2 were dependents Dependents numbers have gone through the roof because we left the EU
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  326. Why is the Labour Party the Lib-Dem Party and the Greens unelectable? We've had 12 years of economic stagnation culminating in the current bunch who are even worse than Cameron and May For the record Average wage growth under Blaire / Brown +25% Average wage growth under Cameron / May -3% Under Johnson its projected to be -3/4% with 8% inflation on what planet is the alternative worse?
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  327.  @deborahwhittington8394  So which policies attract you? The economy falling off a cliff? His corruption and double dealing? The white Christian Nationalist Agenda? Being the laughing stock of the world for having an Incompetent multi bankrupt failed reality star as POTUS? The climate denial while the country burns floods and freezes?
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  328. quote The authors say that with the UK’s tax take set to hit £1 trillion by 2025-26, the UK needs to move away from flip-flopping (such as cutting and then raising corporation tax) and wishing away problems (such as the £9bn loss of fuel duty revenue by 2030), and towards a proper tax strategy focused on taking on the UK’s twin economic challenges of raising growth and reducing inequality.
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  329. we've had a stagnant economy for 13 years what's new?
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  330. A pscho who's turned his country into a stalinst shit hole and poisons his enemies and you think the Russians want that never mind Ukrainian? He's several leagues above the Tories in siphoning off money for his own benifit and leaving its citizens to rot
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  331. Since when we've had non stop Thatcherism + Austerity
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  332. Its easy NI is in the single market we are a third country goods from a third country into the market need checking this is the deal they signed to Get Brexit Done hence border in the Irish seas.
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  333. focus on the issue don't come back with whataboutism coz your a cap doffing tory fanboy
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  334.  @richardpeddie2060  Just keep on brown nosing for the Tories
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  335.  @trucker4567  if you remotely knew what it meant it would be funny Origin story did a podcast on it woke the word that splits the world Be careful though you might learn something
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  336.  @tonyfraser1749  any MP with a constituency outside of London will be renting a flat and claiming both rent and utility bills what do you think a Manchester MP does teleport to Westminster every day They'll all be claiming for IT and stationery equipment as well as a couple of staff
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  337. What's with not wanting lower energy bills?
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  338. It's a complete failure, the problem with it is as we've seen over the last 14 years when you start defunding the social floor the capitalist ladder stops working hence 12 years of stagnation followed by a 2 year reccesion as we are now drifting backward.
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  339. Since when ? We still have Austerity if you hadn't noticed
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  340. Elon pays tax are you pulling my leg or what?
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  341.  @anthonywilson8998  No I don't have a heat pump the system is configured to be heat pump ready and I double insulated when we had the extension work done at the same time as putting in the ground floor underfloor. Heat loss is a couple of degrees every 5/6 hours if its cold outside its not been on at all for months though if its not cold overnight the house stays fairly constant it also doesn't heat up that much either when it is scorching outside. Underfloor was similar cost to a radiator system when we took account of the pre routed floorboards and the time saving it gave on installation (plumber time). Secondary insulation is a couple of different products from YBS floorquilt and superquilt. Payback on the solar thermal is 8-10 years, the solar panels are inserts the roof needed doing so its fitting costs are moot as the scaffolding was there anyway electrical work was bundled in the 2nd fit I'd expect it to be higher than the solar thermal On a cost basis the Solar was done as a future proof I had the money so it was added.
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  342. Approximately 4 million who voted leave are no longer with us working through demographic and voter share by age data so how does that work?
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  343. @patriciajohnson7658  not if you look at the stats crime broadly fell during his tenure then started to climb from 2015 onwards to its current record high. There's a huge economic cost with crime the cost from 2015 to present rises is estimated in the 10's of billions
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  344. Ahh the party of elites in the pocket of the billionaires gotcha
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  345.  @FriendlyFecker  CGT is fixed at 20% and you don't pay NI on it either Compare that to graduates who will pay 49.3%
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  346. Who want's to know what the soon to be ex prime minister has to say No amount of GBN propaganda can save the Tories
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  347. It's not mass its 100 - 150k a year on a population of 70 million its 0.002%
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  348. People will vote Labour because they want the public services to work, not have sewage in the river, remove RAAC from schools and Hospitals and fix the pot holes What are you voting for?
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  349. He's got to take an upgraded course in gaslighting
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  350. When the problem is lack of social and physical infrastructure investment tighter regulations on water companies a party promising tax cuts and deregulation isn't the answer. Liz thought us the 1st part quite starkly didn't she children
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  351.  @oldshiny3012  there is no borrowing available to spend on tax cuts The reason the market went loopy over doing it was it doesn't grow the economy and deregulation makes polution worse not better
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  352. The Billion pound bill for "Cutting the Green Crap" Updated Carbon Brief analysis shows that energy bills would have been £9.5bn lower under the October price cap and £13bn lower in January, if successive Conservative-led governments had not rolled back Labour climate policies over the past decade. (See Carbon Brief’s January article for methodology.) The savings would have been equivalent to £168 per household in October and £220 in January. These savings would have come from additional cheap renewable capacity, more efficient homes and new homes being built to zero-carbon standards.
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  353.  @danceteachermom  oh of course there doing this secret thing it's oh a grandconspiracy yada yada talk about gullible all Trump did was slow the process down and shovel millions to friends of friends contractor's the Republicans didn't do anything when they could have and won't now because they can go around shouting
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  354. ​@hetrodoxly1203 they are vectors for cross infection making out and karaoke not the most hygienic of past times
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  355. ​@Jimboy1611 it's the irony of it all that gets me Braverman is in one of the safest Con seats in the country and she's not even Conservative vying to be the next UKIP leader soz meant Conservative All noise zero results
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  356. There refugees not illegals The West's insatiable appetite for Oil Gas and Minerals drives wars, wars result in refugees its an unsolvable problem so the best thing to do is accept it happens and deal with it. The gesture politics telling you that it can somehow be fixed is a complete lie and all that will happen is billions of pounds will be pissed away in failed policies which are designed for appearance only. So I have an idea why not send NHS recruiters to France and get all the Afghan refugees who are Doctor and Nurses fast tracked over here, there's a chronic shortage of lorry drivers as well.
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  357. He's literally put 20 billion more in the last budget Dream on
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  358.  @indogoUI  take away his paid holiday leave as an example and see how he likes removing embedded worker protection laws
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  359. ​Contuing with GAS will cost double the cost of Net Zero transition In 2021 uk consumers spent 30 billion on energy of which renewables where the cheapest source In 2023 uk consumers will pay 170 billion of which renewables will be x7 cheaper than GAS Net zero spend comes out of the government and needs to come quickly to reduce the ongoing 140 billion in excess energy profits
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  360. Its pointless raising interest rates the inflation is supply side on inelastic commodities food and energy. If you want to tackle inflation tax the expected 170 billion in EXCESS PROFITS @75/80% pump it back to consumers only exception is households with their own private swimming pools. Reduce the money supply with a 1 off wealth tax
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  361. Notthing like complete electoral suicide InActoinMan strikes again another do nothing policy and pretend it will all go awsy
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  362. NI have it minted, they have free access to the single market and free access to the GB market It will be the fastest growing economy in Europe if they stick to the protocol
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  363. There under pressure to govern andget things working The state of public services after 14 years of cuts is abysmal and the majority of people will pay higher tax because of fiscal drag + wages are falling, gdp per capita has been negative for 7 quarters propped up by 1.25 million visas
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  364. A lot of them have passed on given it was daytime watching tv dribbling pensioners that bought this sh1t Last time I did the calc it was -3 million at the leave end and + 3 million new young voters
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  365. Dumber than voting for the magic unicorn party? The issue is right wing economic policy that needs a constant supply of migrant Labour why will voting for a Party that promises the same economic model but by the power of magic Unicorns doesn't need the migrant Labour? If you want lower immigration you need to change the tax model increase taxes and spend it on training the domestic workforce as well as other infrastructure spending
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  366. Not like the pair will be missed Rwanda is a complete waste of money - bring on the election so I can canvas and tell people how much money this bunch of loosers are wasting
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  367. The fact that he sanctioned 3 non uk residents who were already on the US naughty list not really a response has Putin got compromat on Boris?
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  368. We introduced the paperwork oh and the additional 24 vat codes and the cabotage limit and we were responsible for the shellfish limitations its called third country status. We had a choice to leave the EU but stay in the single market Boris chose Apocalypse now.
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  369. @arfurdaylee  I'm just good at maths unlike Sunak, how's the 1.25 million legal visas 1/2 of which are dependents going?
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  370. Anyone can be a Tory member and vote for the PM 16/17 has been labour policy and ex pats can't vote but if you're living here from the commonwealth you can So whatever
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  371.  @miniaturepainter8805  average cost of a family farm near me is 2.5 million (Yorkshire) Feel lucky no one has 600 acres round here it's more like 100-150.
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  372. Labour will invest in ukplc reducing the need to import say nurses Reform are promising tax cuts how does that work?
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  373. Quote The OBR concludes: the debt impact of future volatility in gas prices is at 13% of the UK gross domestic product (GDP) to 2050. This dwarfs the debt impact of 6% of GDP for investing in net zero. Second, it investigates the potential of new, growing energy solutions to cushion price volatility.25 Jul 2023 Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP.30 Aug 2022 read obr report Fiscal risks and sustainability – July 2023 @met54 
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  374. When the curtain fell on migration a million people had left the UK 10% where UK residents the reason this hurts so much is where sitting on a demographic time bomb with an ageing population and a low birth rate. Government where told the consequences of a hard Brexit that it would knacker the economy leading to acute labour shortages but it was labelled project fear. We are also undergoing a brain drain if your skilled then there is no problem getting a work visa in the EU they have shortages as well, the IT company I used to work for before early retirement relocated to Holland leaving a satellite in the UK moving the bulk of its staff or offering redundancy. The only way of increasing work participation without migration is investment in Women and young couples to provide the environment where its not a huge financial burden to have kids often removing one of the couple from the workforce by providing subsidized high quality childcare after school clubs holiday clubs social housing child tax credits.
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  375.  @seanhuds7351  There spinning you a yarn about the ECHR we have obligations to refugees under the UN convention on Refugees. The free market Tories want completely open borders get a grip of your Tory factions only the English Nationalists are for throwing rocks at dinghies. There's a process for assessing Asylum applicants which is being broken and gummed up to create political theatre. Current stats are 80,000 applicants 20% rejected on average so were taking in 62,000. 500,000 emigrated from the UK last year the government issued 1.3 million work / student visas.
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  376. cough inflation quote from the ONS Total goods exports fell by £0.1 billion (0.3%) in October 2023, after the effect of inflation is removed. Exports to the EU decreased by £0.9 billion (7.0%)
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  377. Starmer is proposing you just organize and have specialist units to deal with it its not rocket science as a specialist in certain areas of IT I can do in a couple of hours what would take a graduate weeks. The problem with the Tories is they look at everything as a hedge fund manager you get rid of that experienced specialist that costs a lot and replace him with a graduate or not at all to save money without looking at the impact to service levels or that your storing problems for the future
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  378. Renewable energy is the cheapest on the grid by a large margin has been since 2019
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  379. ​ @walkaz the current talk in EU countries is 30,000 our totals have more than doubled since Brexit last year it was 80,000 So 30,000 + say 20,000 more sounds a good deal to me As this year its going to be near the 100,000 It's a better offer than what InActionMan is proposing housing migrants indefinitely at a current cost of 8 billiona year and escalating
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  380. ​ @Ole-sf4ps farage can mouthpiece whatever he wants with no consequences he'd make a right pigs ear of it
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  381. if you kept up with the tech renewables reached parity with gas on energy costs back in 2019 and EV's achieved cost parity with ICE this year and that's before economies of scale kick in. We have the worst insulated housing stock in Europe and the offer is what exactly get everyone up to A+ standards and save consumers 100's of billions? No way Tice's attitude is working people can fk off and keep paying outrageous amounts to the energy companies cos we don't care were not going to regulate to improve your life and wellbeing
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  382. Nige talks utter bilge he appears to know nothing about anything he's the guy at the end of the bar talking endless bollox
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  383.  @williamrae9954  only if you call helping wreck the country with his Tory enablers success
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  384. Putin through various means has been pumping money into right wing organisations and politicians across Europe to destabilize them as much as possible for decades. He's been accused of taking Kremlin money before its all rather murky given the Oligarchs are allowed to launder their ill gotten gains through London
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  385.  @rosemarywoolley8394  mask wearing in enclosed spaces and on public transport was already a thing I live in a university city with a large Asian influx it was also adopted for smog during the summer months most of the elderly passengers wear masks on public transport as do I its no big thing Why this nupty wants to martyr himself over it fk knows he's probably never been on public transport in his entire privileged life
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  386. Have you read there manifesto? Libetarian fantasy economics with lala land imigration policy
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  387. ​ @jimcobain4381 what's wrong with well funded public services and wage growth both happened during the last labour stint
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  388.  @LindaGray-o7j  he got knighted for doing a good job and his wife works plus he has a mortgage so he can't be that well off And The older male working class are still besotted with ukip not a brain cell between them
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  389. Average people won't be better off the Tax Thresholds are frozen till 2028 Fiscal drag and the privatsed foreign owned energy companies charging x5 the amount ithan in 2021 for energy and living standars àre still going down
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  390. @tug1345  there is no lost money in the NHS, if you want it to operate better it needs it's processes overhauling and a huge cash injection to upgrade equipment and IT systems as well as getting rid of trusts, have a central purchasing department and stop outsourcing. This will reduce its operational costs but that takes planning and commitment All Tice wants to do is blame the problem on public ownership and farm out work to the private sector
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  391.  @kwanchan6745  The FT described Brexit as an economic slow puncture every now and then someone kicks the tyre and makes it go down a bit faster ex Covid UKraine Truss's Budget but it settles to normal but still keeps going down. Most visible manifestation of frog boiling is the tax keeps going up the tax basis was 32% in 2019 then 33% in 2022 now rising again and until 2027 where its expected to be 38%
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  392. A channel owned by an offshore billionaire with connections to RW think tanks in the US who's job is climate denial and to push their tax agenda interviews deluded MP
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  393. Going Net zero Costs 6% GDP Not going Net Zero costs 13% GDP Why can't we afford to save 7% GDP?
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  394. He's the last thing this country needs
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  395. Investment in physical and social infrastructure paid for by ripping out the Myriad of wasteful Trickle down and outsourcing Thatcherite economic policies.
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  396. House prices have risen 66% and wages fallen by 7% since 2010 due to government policies How about we change the government and build some houses
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  397. The bulk of the workforce are 0aid between 11 and 15 an hour work in all conditions and out of hours as well they've had a pay freeze for 2 years and thier bosses got 6% in September
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  398. she did a job didn't even cover half of the impropriety and goings on if you want the full SP go listen to this podcast Partygate The Untold Story ITV News
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  399. I mean who needs the human rights my father put his life on the line to win in ww2, get real
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  400. So what's the difference between Neoliberal trickle down that doesn't work for the Cons but Neoliberal trickle down from Reform? Lettuce Liz has already shown us the disastrous nature of these policies
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  401. This come from the Express? Nuf said - fake news
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  402.  @indogoUI  Oh Yes He Would
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  403.  @SmartCookie2022  Tax base only went down under Thatcher because she used oil money and asset stripping to fund it. During Blaire's Premiership average wages rose by +25% and the Tax base didn't change till Sunak became Chancellor. I've and everyone else has lost £500 in fiscal drag you'd be lucky to gain more than £100 from a 1p tax cut. Also uk energy consumers Have had thier energy bills go up from 30 billion to 170 billion in 2023 Why Privatisation and dependence on Gas even a modest 28 billion investment in renewable energy will see a massive decrease in that total
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  404. which isn't what you have here there just shilling for the Oil and gas companies Over the energy crisis which is caused by a reliance on Gas we will shell out 170 billion in excess profits to these companies Meanwhile renewable energy is still at 2019 prices which is the last time Gas was at a comparable cost
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  405.  @Stand663  we voted to leave the EU. NI is no longer in the EU it is via Jonson's protocol in the single market and the people of NI want it to stay that way.
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  406. ​ @everest9707 the large number 625,000 of dependants is a result of Brexit your getting people from Nigeria India they fetch thier families The high legal migration is the result of Thatcherism + Austerity × Brexit If you cut funding in 2010 for nursing and doctor training what did you think would happen by 2023?
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  407. What they may get free school meals and not get schooled in a portacabin? Grow up
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  408. According to Oxford University researchers, ending fossil fuel use by 2050 will save the world at least $12 trillion (€11.3 trillion). The study disproves the fallacy that going green is economically difficult, says Professor Doyne Farmer, who led the study We are dependant on Fossil because the Fossil lobby want us to be and will do anything to stop the gravy train being turned off
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  409. Why is the Labour Party the Lib-Dem Party and the Greens unelectable? We've had 12 years of economic stagnation culminating in the current bunch who are even worse than Cameron and May For the record Average wage growth under Blaire / Brown +25% Average wage growth under Cameron / May -3% Under Johnson its projected to be -3/4% with 8% inflation on what planet is the alternative worse?
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  410. They have a talent pool issue after all this is the Party that elected Truss as PM and left her there for 6 weeks costing the Country approx 3/4 a billion per week
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  411. Thatcher gave Jimmy a Knighthood and Currie gave him open access to Broadmoor the Head of the CPS is BANNED from reviewing cases except those tagged NATIONAL SECURITY. The reason is you don't give that political appointee the power to prosecute s so he can't engage in political prosecutions thus you have separation of powers between the Judiciary and Parliament
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  412. You wanted Brexit you said it would help control our borders we told you it wouldn't it would make it worse You got Brexit It's worse Next brain FART idea RWANDA it has 2 chances of working FAT and NO When are you going to stop with this constant failure your embarrassing yourself
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  413.  @mn5499  from the ONS UK general government gross debt was £2,436.7 billion at the end of Quarter 2 (Apr to June) 2022, equivalent to 101.9% of gross domestic product (GDP) It's due to peak at 106 in 2023
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  414. FPTP needs to be gone and we need a second chamber that's elected as well as serious Reforms which disbars people from parliament when they seriously misbehave
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  415. what 4% with 8%+ inflation Tory maths for you
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  416.  @jgreen9361  I'll tell you why house prices are spiralling and yes low mortgage rates have a small effect but the biggest driver is quantative easing and increasing the money supply, this has all spiraled up to the 1% who are investing it in fixed assets. Last year was a record year for the increase in billionaire wealth, if you want to correct the economy then introduce a wealth tax as recommended by the IMF
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  417. He has a degree in economics he knows exactly what he's doing the complete cynicism of the budget is a true wonder Why did he load all the burden on the low paid, workers and graduates? Because there not Tory voters, you'll notice the changes don't affect unearned income. This was a budget for the 1%
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  418. there not illegal till they have their claim rejected we currently have 40,000 sat there who if they where processed wouldn't be here The cost of showboating for the gamons riling people up and doing nothing is 6 billion a year
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  419. But there a bunch of xenophobic idiots who have even less of a clue about economics than this shambolic lot
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  420. we have an energy crisis which needs investment in and there promising to lower taxes for the wealthy how does that work? If you pump 28 billion into renewable energy it has an economic multiplier of a minimum 1.6 which means for every £1 you put in it creates enough GDP to return £1.6 in additional taxation. As a pensioner this will help me enormously because it will lower energy costs and I'm home most of the day far more than any tax cut. Getting energy costs down to 2020 levels would be the equivalent to me of my tax going from 20% to 10%
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  421. Energy costs have tripled because of our reliance on GAS, renewable sources were already cheapest on the Grid back in 2019 Switching would reduce costs but then Energy companies wouldn't be able to scalp 140 billion out of the UK market in Excess profits
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  422. What a bunch of snowflakes the right is The energy industry in this country will make 170 billion in EXCESS profits over the next 2 years with the aide of the government and you lot come on here and bleat along like Barties being herded down the street HAVING A GRID THAT WORKS ON RENEWABLES WILL SAVE BILLIONS back in 2019 renewables became the cheapest source of energy on the grid yet all the government has done is double down on fossil and take you stupid idiots for a ride why because global corporations don't want the oil gravy train to stop
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  423. Tax cuts dont generate growth the ones she was proposing would have generated 20p in the £ at best
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  424.  @saraandivanevans6881  there life is estimated at 25 years minimum and you buy a machine to recycle them there just fibreglass you need a big enough crusher. There also looking at moving to bamboo composite for blades and Perovskite cell technology for solar as well as Sodium - Ion batteries in the next few years Did you know the UK government is paying the Oil companies 75 billion to clean up old infrastructure in the North Sea?
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  425.  @staceyleeellis9160  Sorry but you'll be waiting forever, because the Cons decided to be a third country throughput through our ports is grindingly slow and will get slower as more checks are phased in.
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  426. When did this channel go full Oswald Mosley do you get a free brown shirt if you subscribe?
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  427. And what did the voters vote for? According to Nige and Daniel Hannan we'd be mental to leave the single market and peddled a full Norway
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  428.  @Tondaloona03  whats one of those? I'm pointing out failed promises from everyone up the food chain, we have no leveling up, no Brexit high wage bonanza and a rudderless government that's still trying to fight battles of the past. We are completely and utterly directionless
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  429. Turkeys voting for Xmas again Not that I care I want 2 decades of labour if possible
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  430. Jeez this channel is a pile of crap, self serving elites pontificating how we should be riled up over nothing Promoted and financed by billionaires that don't even live in the UK using a propaganda and disinformation model pioneered by the Murdoc's to keep the plebs from focusing on what's really going on
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  431.  @jmills1549  the Cons have pulled 15 billion out of council budgets over the last decade disproportionately affecting Labour councils SUNAK'S Additional leveling up money is going to 40 out of 45 areas with a Conservative member of Parliament despite Labour representing 90% of the poorest areas in England There are also mandatory policies which councils have to follow poorer areas have a higher burden on social care and housing
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  432. Quote The UK is "sleepwalking" into a food supply crisis and the government must step in to help farmers, the National Farmers Union (NFU) has warned. Yields of tomatoes and other crops will likely slump to record lows this year, it said, with potential supply problems ahead as already seen with eggs Don't you just love a government that hasn't a fkin clue what effect Brexit combined with its other policies would have
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  433. Putin has been pushing money into extreme right wing politicians and organisations across Europe for decades he's been accused of Kremlin connections before through Arron Banks and Steve Bannon
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  434. Go read up on what was going on at No10 from wine o clock Friday to Karaoke nights to ABBA themed fancy dress parties no expense was spared on the government credit card to Rave on
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  435. as soon as its introduced it will be seen by nearly all as not effecting them
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  436. government spending is subject to an economic multiplier in the case of the proposed tax cuts its around 0.2-0.3 which means for every £1 the Treasury looses in income it gains an average +25p through expanded demand and GDP growth If you look at Osborne's corporation tax cut UK debt to gdp rose by 10% during the 2016 - 2019 period they delivered nothing growth was stagnent 10% of gdp to debt in today's money is 313 billion
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  437. What's Christian about the Rwanda policy It's an utter disgrace
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  438. Why would you scrap payed holiday leave or the clean water act?
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  439.  @victoriaplum997  The reason for these sunset clauses is to get rid of stuff like holiday pay the clean water act the working time directive etc. not replace them. Mogg is a Libertarian he wants us to go back to the era of zero rules for business no matter how much it poisons the environment or hurts its employees. It was never about improving conditions or tailoring them to a higher UK standard it was all about sweat shop Britain
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  440.  @clivemarriott7749  The plight of this country sits squarely on the hard right Thatcherite policies that have been enacted Austerity cut services to the bone and depressed public sector wages corporate tax cuts ballooned the debt the championing of a low wage gig economy then blaming people's woes on the migrant labour it needed to fuel it. We haven't had a Socialist government since Challaghan, Blaire / Brown where Centerists in what seems like a golden decade of increasing wages and improving services pissed away by greedy Tory policies.
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  441. ​ @briangibson6527 you reduce migration by investing in social and physical infrastructure of he UK Not tax cuts What Reform are proposing would crash thee economy make Truss's work look like a dry run
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  442. Because all effort is being pushed towards military goals the internal infrastructure in Russia is collapsing. They've already had a serious brain drain at the start of the war of over 1.5 million. Also very little was done infrastructure wise given Russias size in term of infrastructure investment post user collapsing, the Oligarchs and Putin have done the bare minimum and the war is on the back of generations with a low birth rate of 1.4 Thier economy doesn't have enough workers so things will start collapsing like the Dam for instance, the heating systems in apartment blocks etc
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  443. she isn't at the BBC she's an independent unlike your thought process
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  444. Next couple of years should see cheaper domestic battery storage with sodium/ion we also have smart grid on the way once there's enough storage around including EV'S the grid can use them for load balancing instead of firing up a gas peaker plant. I've got solar thermal just waiting a couple of years to get my roof fully done it needs retiling
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  445. No they don't Reform have 1 mp
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  446. Hire an EU Nurse and you get 1 Nurse Hire a Filipino Nurse you get her Husband and 2 kids simples 200,000 becomes 750,000 because of dependants Often times the EU worker moves on, you were sold simple solutions to a problem that was manageable when we were in the EU but now isn't
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  447. We have more land dedicated to golf than housing, if we get short of food compulsory purchase golf clubs and turn them in agricultural small holdings
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  448. Ahh the ignorance, Rwanda is a show pony to dangle you along it will never happen and you like a gullible Gammon will keep ticking the blue box Every last one of us is paying for Tory incompetence as they slow roll the system to generate as big a crisis as possible in the hope that it will garner votes look at us where the fkin Usless Party we can waste bucket fulls of money on a pointless policy that we can't back out from now because it would RAGE the gammons after all that BNP NF vote is our core support
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  449. ​@SubjectiveFunny actively speeding up what's causing our economic collapse which is a Tory debt doom loop? Since 2010 our economy has completely stagnated because of Conservative fiscal policy, we also have ever rising immigration due to lack of investment in training, re-skilling the domestic workforce. Cutting tax doesn't generate growth, Osborne's corporate tax cut generated + 20p in the £ corporations went on a share buy back spree removing money frow the working economy into assets.
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  450. If you outsource and penny pinch at every opportunity what do you expect?
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  451. zero sounds a good number to me
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  452. no it wasn't, the Trains used to interconnect in the good old days, privatisation just sucks money out of the Treasury
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  453. And how do thier economic policies reduce legal migration? If the requirement of an economy to function is based on migrant labour, you just can't turn it on/off like a tap you need to address the root cause
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  454. Why there promising the same low tax unicorns the Tories are?
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  455. More extreme Conservative BS why would anyone do that? The people that told you brexit would reduce migration your having a laugh
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  456. ​ @Bobisalive the Tories are further right than Thatcher currently how fachy do you want?
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  457. ​@wisepranker the American economy is booming ours is contracting what's your point?
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  458. Between myself and my wife were worth 1.5 million if we died tomorrow it would all go to my son Tax Free - this is a CON to let the top 4% off tax
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  459. No they didn't The current shtshw is because of Brexit It's like working with your neighbours to solve common problems has real world benefits People said it would get worse if we left the EU and it was dismissed as project fear
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  460.  @nickedwards2904  you don't get it do you Join up the dots
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  461. Liz Truss was completely wrong we have 50 years of data since Reagan & Thatcher which shows Tax cuts DON'T create growth The average growth rate with Osborn's corporate tax cut was 0.5% GDP increasing tax receipts by around 40 billion till it went up this year at a cost of 200 billion in lost tax receipts. All the data we have points to companies using the bulk of tax savings on share buybacks in turn increasing executive pay. So even if she had gone at a slower pace the eventual end would have been the same all Sunak has done is staunch the bleeding we need root and branch tax reform and major social and physical infrastructure investment to turn the economy around
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  462. Why if you want to cut immigration taxes need to go to pay for the Physical and social infrastructure needed Reason we need so many migrants is lack of investment
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  463.  @0019808  the reason for high migration is Supply Side Trickle Down economics aka Thatcherism
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  464.  @jamesnicholls1054  if you invest in infrastructure both physically and social you need less immigration. Why do we Nurses and thier famalies from Nigeria? Because in 2010 Osborne cut Labour's Bursary system leading to a lot G term decline in nurses being trained. Why do we have 600,000 + dependents? Because of Brexit and loss of FOM the visas are permenant. So yes Labour will reduce migration but it will take time to repair right wing economic damage
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  465. A worse version of the Tories? Why?
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  466.  @dave710  it's the shutting down legal routes to claim. We only take in 62,000 as it is, the Tories ha e created the current business model. Also we need ID cards there are loads of people disappearing into the black economy and modern slavery is on the rize
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  467. Port talbot is closing because of Brexit
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  468. This would have been a 5 minute story if they'd not tried to cover it up and lie about it
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  469. Another scare story from a Tory shill The Billionaires channel shows its true colours
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  470.  @Elizabeth-jd3mn  Johnson's cabal aren't Liberal there just doing the Tory thing looking out for themselves and their donors
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  471. It's latest nickname is GBeebies
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  472. Weve had the biggest rise in taxes during peacetime in our history and thresholds are frozen till 2028 You should have a 20% limit of 14350 not 12250 We also borrowed 130 billion last year youd not leave the Cons in charge of running a bath let alone the economy
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  473.  @noodlyappendage6729  there just driving NI to unification, the protocol keeps the status quo no one wants a border but the DUP and Brextremists
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  474. You've been that gullible before😊
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  475. Over the last couple of years thier activist base at local level is all but shot as they loose councils and their stalwart supporters get too old to paddle the streets Last poll had 10% support in the under 50's with Sunak's fiscal drag biting into pensions the over 50's will fade as well there done
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  476.  @shanjanusman9974  we also have 1 in 3 small firms staring at bankruptcy most farmers undercut by red tape for exports and lower standards for imports, sewage filled rivers and sea total collapse of hospitality in some areas due to staff shortages. The Nissan plant owned by the French and Chinese bailed out with huge amounts of public money not to shut up shop and relocate to the EU with the only market for anything they produce being the UK because they can't meet the 60% threshold
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  477.  @shanjanusman9974  Leave is a right wing project funded by the billionaire class, the levels of propaganda spewed out were on an industrial scale just because left leaning politicians believed the complete pile of bilge coming out of vote leave doesn't give it credence. Since the vote they have gone into overdrive to sell the hardest brexit possible simply to introduce supply side economics on an industrial scale Follow the money who paid Cambridge Analytica for the Facebook campaign? Who owns the Sun Mail Telegraph and Express why are they still boosting Johnson the most useless PM in political history lying lazy and incompetent Who pays into the economic think tanks that are driving current cabinet policy I'll give you a clue - Fossil industry pushing for net zero to be dropped, Big Pharma and health companies circling to privatise the NHS large multi nationals
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  478. Do what how many family farms are worth more than 3 million?
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  479. His agenda was undeliverable brexit is a complete mess apointing Sunak as chancellor when you want to spend large sums on leveling up wasn't going to happen
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  480. And you loose what little rights that are left in this country as well its not a thing that just applies to dinghies
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  481. If you make your house energy efficient and install solar and batteries you'll have lower bills, capital payback is now under 6 years
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  482. and what law has she broken exactly? your talking about someone on PAYE and a perhaps / maybe / theoretical tax bill of £1500 10 years ago with zero paper trail because as far as the law is concerned you don't have to live in a place to claim it as your primary residence.
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  483.  @nihilistlivesmatter  tax isn't a police affair it's hmrc.
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  484. Kind of they could have fetched it down by intervening in the energy market 90% tax on 140 billion in excess profits would be a start
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  485. Wehey at last a benefit of Brexit more refugees to be angry xenophobic and racist about go Nige give it your best we hate everyone else shot and shout at lifeboats and claim its all the EU's fault. Pre Brexit we were part of the Dublin accord "The Dublin III Regulation allows the UK to return migrants to other EU countries"
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  486. build back with what the Brexit Ultra deal + Austerity + Thatcherism ha tanked the economy
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  487.  @garrywynne1218  What's your point? The figures indicate a slight rise in real terms for the service economy (London) while the rest of us are getting poorer. Trade friction especially effects small businesses and SMEs account for three-fifths of the employment and around half of turnover in the UK private sector.
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  488.  @garrywynne1218  quote 11 May 2023 — The EU accounted for 47% of UK goods exports and 36% of services exports. 48% of the UK's imported goods and 47% of imported services The primary issue here is if just 1 component goes through the EU supply chain your whole assembly is dependent go stick your head in the sand where it belongs
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  489.  @garrywynne1218  so to sum up before we left the EU I could order a £5 spare part and have it delivered next day now I have to wait till I need a palette full to make it economically viable or I pay £55 for it and charge the customer +50£ for it and wait 5 weeks till it arrives.
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  490.  @garrywynne1218  You know I have a friend who's young lad plays in a showband, they used to tour France during the summer season. When are you going to get the balls to stand up and say I was wrong and Sorry to people like that? The Tories promised you 100,000 net you've now got 750,000 a primary cause is leaving the EU, boat crossings have exploded who would have thought working with our EU partners on a common problem would be the best way forward. Leaving for the Elites was never about migration they will tell you any tale that you will swallow just like Reform are doing now and like GBN are spinning. All they cared about was a deregulated City and the rest of the country could burn as far as they were concerned.
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  491. He didn't prioritise the economy if they had we'd have had measures in place to stay 1/2 open rather than spreading the disease all over the place. Nothing was done about ventilation in schools Testing was a complete mess This policy just spread the disease quicker
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  492. I'm an Athiest but how does claiming someone supports radical religious views with zero evidence not be racist? Its a political dog whistle to yank your chain and like one of pavlov's dogs your drooling all over it.
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  493. we are out why do you care if people try and make trading and commerce with a market 20 miles away possible The best interest of the business people in the UK is regulatory alignment for frictionless trade No major company will set up in the UK Johnson's hard Brexit destroyed the On-Demand supply chain what used to take overnight or a day or so now takes weeks and tons of paperwork Medium sized companies are transferring business to the EU to avoid it and back in 2016 the EU started upgrading Irelands road port infrastructure so goods from the EU didn't have to use GB as a land bridge You have your political exit from the EU stop trying to ram a cult belief down business people's throats with your complete and utter nonsense anything from a full Norway to No Deal would have satisfied the referendum vote
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  494.  @chrishart8548  Under Blair / Brown average wages rose by 25% under Cameron / May Johnson they have grown by -3% an economic failure not seen since the Napoleonic War
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  495. Affects the poor.? Hunt used Fiscal drag to pay for it You got a tax cut if you were 32-55k and working everyone else got a tax rise including pensioners.
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  496. Why Labour had an excellent economic record +20% Average wage growth V Tories-7% in 14 years
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  497.  @kernv  you do know that cutting tax is propped up by filling the GDP shortfall with migrant labour, dont you? If you want to cut migration you need to raise more revenue and invest in the local population for example making training nurses and doctors free, increasing thier pay so they don't emigrate.
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  498. @111111877  debt to gdp in 2010 was 62% by 2019 it was 92% its now 100%, the Tories have wasted 14 years and 1.4 trillion on shrinking average wages by -7% a truly staggering litter of incompetence
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  499. why don't you want cheaper electric?
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  500.  @tomm5228  there life is estimated at 25 years minimum and you buy a machine to recycle them there just fibreglass you need a big enough crusher. There also looking at moving to bamboo composite for blades and Perovskite cell technology for solar as well as Sodium - Ion batteries in the next few years Did you know the UK government is paying the Oil companies 75 billion to clean up old infrastructure in the North Sea?
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  501. Because nothing is happening the Conservatives have become ungovernable with factionalism and the country is in an economic hole you wouldn't believe of the Tory's making. Stringing it out will make the defeat worse as the factional infighting continues
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  502. if the BOE hadn't been independent the Gilts would have collapsed causing world wide sell offs Where in hock for over 100% of gdp that's 2.7 trillion and T4uss and Kwerteng wanted to blow a load on tax cuts for the rich and now this bunch are bitchin
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  503. he was the only Thatcherite in the race you have high taxes because of Brexit over 1 million left the labour market and a 5% drop in gdp = 40 billion in tax revenue
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  504. What's wrong with saving money?
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  505. What's funny about that? It's a better goal than raising spending on debt repaymen to 13% as the have
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  506. If right wing economic policies are tanking the Economy why would the UK electorate vote for 5 more years of getting poorer?
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  507. The Tories are wedded to Thatcherism aka Supply Side Trickle Down Economics What does it need? Supply side cheap labour to depress the home labour market to expand Corporate profits All they've done is switch from supply side working class labour to supply side middle and professional class labour with a points system now they've screwed the working class so much there's not much left in the tank there going to screw the middle class and depress their salaries.
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  508. ​ @El.Cid17 it's a complete waste of resources and money at best it moves the problem around without dealing with it
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  509. We're 6th out of 7 in G7 growth measured from 2019 to present In 2020 our GDP went down by 11% in 2021 up by 7% we've also got one off the highest inflation rates And Non of these figures are adjusted for inflation The reason the treasury are squeezing people with tax rises is the -4% drop So great economy not its actually spiralling into stagflation
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  510. The reason the justice system is falling to pieces is Tory Austerity 20,000 police let go + 20,000 office staff + defunding councils police and courts All you do to fix it is fund it properly
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  511. The Toxic Toerag couldn't save anyone let alone the Tories The reason there in such a mess is the UKIP ification of the party and its constant drift right
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  512. He's one of the few talking sense Labour have shifted to the centre and the Cons have lurched batsh1t right so +20
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  513. How does leaving a tarrif free paper free red tape free zone 20 miles away with roll on roll off ferry access be anything other than economic suicide?
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  514.  @MarkEdmondston  that's all rumours What they've said is close loopholes like offshore tax wrappers. And for a couple it's 1 million
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  515.  @jacquib256  The reason the crossings have gone up is because we no longer cooperate with France much on this and treat it as a single issue problem. The solution to this is opening legal routes to apply accepting you have to take some and that the quest for zero makes it worse not better. Also put some serious effort into a Europe wide force to tackle the people smuggling, introduce ID cards and clean up our black economy and modern slavery. Shouting at dingy people is pathetic and solves nothing
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  516. He was born in Southampton he's British his wife is Indian He made his money in the City running hedge funds and banking, what always surprises me about these people is He has a degree in economics but completely ignores what he's been taught and base's policy on ideology It wouldn't surprise me if he'd been non dom at some stage as well, the budget didn't touch unearned income while hammering workers the worst category are at the bottom and graduates neither of which are likely to vote Con
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  517. So protests are allowed if they don't upset anyone? Suffragettes would be banned now and they resorted to far more activist campaign stop vilifying the messenger and listen to the message Renewable energy is cheaper than fossil and we are paying hundreds of billions in fossil subsidies quote Boué highlights the decision in 2016 by the then Chancellor, George Osborne, to zero-rate, rather than repeal, petroleum revenue tax. This meant that oil companies stopped paying any tax, but could still claim rebates from the government for the cost of decommissioning old oil rigs, estimated at £51 billion ($66bn) by energy consultants, Wood Mackenzie. The UK Office for Budget Responsibility has forecast that between 2016 and 2022 petroleum revenue tax will result in a net loss to the exchequer of £500 million a year. “The UK government will be footing the bill for around 45 per cent of the future decommissioning costs in the North Sea,” Boué says. “British taxpayers can look forward to a future in which the country will still be producing quite substantial volumes of oil and gas, but the petroleum fiscal income that the UK government will derive therefrom will be at best marginal, or more likely be negative.”
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  518. 700 billion went into the economy over covid it all trickled up millionaire billionaire wealth doubled the fix is a wealth tax to pull it out
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  519. he likes it a lot more than you do why on earth do you want to tun the UK into the North Korea of Europe Our economy is a complete basket case because of Brexit The Brexiteers promised Singapore on Thames they delivered Argentina on the Channel
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  520. There refugees not illegals The West's insatiable appetite for Oil Gas and Minerals drives wars, wars result in refugees its an unsolvable problem so the best thing to do is accept it happens and deal with it. The gesture politics telling you that it can somehow be fixed is a complete lie and all that will happen is billions of pounds will be pissed away in failed policies which are designed for appearance only making you even angrier as the Media bangs on and on about it. So I have an idea why not send NHS recruiters to France and get all the Afghan refugees who are Doctor and Nurses fast tracked over here, there's a chronic shortage of lorry drivers as well. Farage and Patel's response is double down on what doesn't work and make it worse
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  521. The last time we were conquered was by the Norman's (hint there from Normandy)
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  522. WOKE just means don't be a racist homophobic misogynistic A hole I presume you don't know what it means otherwise you wouldn't have used it, various commentators appear to think its anything they don't agree with which is not the case
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  523.  @stoicsceptic8420  I'm with him its simplistic tripe The Tories won't do anything about migration because at the heart of their Economic policy is something called Supply Side Economics (Thatcherism) it has low taxes at the top and a feature is a need for constant cheap migrant Labour at the bottom. Since the Tories came to power they've been making it as hard as possible for people to afford to get a University education they would rather import that as well and push the current population into the low wage labour pool..
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  524. This is incorrect but why do you spread this guff?
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  525. usual Tory tears OMG how will we cope quote Keir Starmer was quick to stress that the party has no “settled policy” during a phone-in on LBC radio this morning, but set out the case for widening the franchise to both groups. Starmer noted that EU nationals are already permitted to take part in local elections. “If someone has been here say ten, 20, 30 years, contributing to this economy, part of our community, they ought to be able to vote”. Starmer said EU citizens he had spoken to on the doorstep made that point. “That feels wrong, and something ought to be done about it.” On votes at 16 and 17, Starmer argued it was not such an “outlandish idea” given that it is already permitted in Wales and Scotland.
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  526. She is talking bollox if you want more productivity you invest in social and physical infrastructure not piss money away on corporate tax cuts
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  527.  @AndiWard  You could start with reintroducing FOM which would lower the number of dependants coming over by well over 1/2
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  528. If you look at the biggest culprits of cheap labour its the gig economy which Osbourne and Cameron championed, refused to regulate and enabled the companies behind them to offshore the profits
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  529. Im a pensioner due to fiscal drag my tax has incresed by 540£ so much for low tax tories i was miles better off under labour ​@MinkieWinkle
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  530. He has backing because the economy is in tatters and everyone but him will make it even worse with tax cuts, Truss is as thick as mince, Suella lies to parliment about the law and Kemi doesn't have a clue about the economy neither does Mourdant
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  531. cutting taxes pffff don't make me laugh there continuously p1ssing money up the wall What was it 100 billion Sunk has wasted and Rwanda 399 million so far 5 year contract at 50 million a year? 1/2 A BILLION on a Publicity STUNT Fiscal Drag 11,000 20% 2016 43,000 40% 12,570 20% 2023 50,270 40% 14,425 20% 2016 figures put into the BOE inflation calculator 56,389 40% Average family is £1800 worse off after successive Tory tax rises What a Hunt :(
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  532. single biggest issue is cost of living next NHS then Energy Crisis Everyone has given up on the Tories and refugees and Migration Rwanda is a complete waste of money when our schools are crumbling over the heads of children
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  533. The last NI cut doesn't benifit pensioners, fiscal drag screws every one. Then they screw services as well?
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  534. If the world switches to renewables it will save trillions of dollars as well as reduce polution across the globe. There are numerous studies out there as wind and solar have been the cheapest on the grid since 2019 We spend huge sums subsidising fossil extraction and even more on environmental clean up Also 40% of shipping is dedicated to moving fossil fuel around
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  535.  @dallassukerkin6878  NSW AUS is 75% renewable, Norway is 93% We should be 60% but for the Cons M House will be 95% grid Indipendant within 5 years as I refurbish it. Your talking points where valid in 2010 things have moved on
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  536. The poverty is down to government policy, keeps going because no wants deal with the fallout from the countless wars we've either started or fuelled
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  537. that's not the reason for pressure on housing and services both are down to government policy, services have been run down by the Tories since 2010 and house building has been at a snail's pace since the 80's. Selling off council houses just made it infinitely worse down the line
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  538. In what Conservative utopia have you been living in recently?
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  539. @Ladybird22373  in what way are Labour worse? The show pony waste of money Rwanda plan has gone Renewable projects that have been sat on the shelf for years have been authorised and funded The hs2 to nowhere will get extended to Euston, with a possible not HS section completing the link to Manchester The 1st reading of a clean water bill was read last week Most strikes have been settled And rioters banged up and put in their box So a big step up from the Tories already
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  540. The NatCon Brussels event was sponsored and coordinated by Mathias Corvinus Collegium (MCC), a Hungarian think tank funded by oil and gas money. There not Conservative and have only 1 interest - money
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  541.  @snakeplissken5480  I'd take any of them over a bunch of corrupt Eton Toffs who've given this country the largest tax burden since post war reconstruction and- 3% drop in average income over the last decade a feat not achieved since the Napoleonic war
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  542. Compared to Johnson she's a lightweight in moral values
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  543. In what way? They have set out to rebuild public services, if you improve peoples health then we we stop loosing millions of sick days and the economy will improve for everyone We literally have schools falling down and crumbling due to neglect
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  544.  @ianhollands1641  you had immigration under Thatcher
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  545. there is no plan never was never will be Brexit is solely there to patch up the Conservative party The EU retained Law bill if passed will cost businesses 85 billion over 10 years along with the additional 10 billion in costs for Johnson's red tape paperwork and broken on-demand supply chain We are loosing billions in tariffs and have zero quality control on goods coming in the customs centres ports set up costing millions are idle 7 years on Tory Brexit is a complete kin car crash
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  546.  @bongsound  why do you people never look at the overall picture, funding as a % of GDP has been falling Under the Cons more of the NHS money has been spun out to private entities instead of being run in house at a fraction of the cost, if you want to spin a narrative of a failing system you deliberately try make it fail despite that the NHS provides outstanding value for money. Norway 10% gdp on healthcare Canada 10% gdp on healthcare UK <8% all public services US 17+% gdp on healthcare Germany 12.5% gdp on healthcare private So whatever junk the right wing media have put in your brain it's purpose is to bolster companies who see easy pickings feasting over privatising UK healthcare and making an absolute killing as they screw every last £ out of the people.
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  547.  @bongsound  The spending claim is total BS and the Cons have been in power for well over a decade. They spaffed 50+ billion on a track and trace system that barley functioned and PPE contracts that were over the top and not fit for purpose. Whatever the shortcomings of the NHS are they could have done at least as poor a job as Dido Harding on half if not a third of that total. That 30 billion saving is the equivalent of Doris's 1.25% NI increase
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  548.  @fatwhitebloke9851  pass the sick bag why do you even bother posting when you believe the complete garbage is little fascist Farage spews. The junk your honking up is designed to get yer to vote against your own interests brainwashing you into blaming everything on foreigners.
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  549. What a creepy toad If you want to put the UK public 1st don't vote in right wing plunderers To lower migration you need to raise more tax and invest in in social and physical infrastructure EX- Osborne cuts Nursing Bursaries 2010 Nursing numbers decline slack taken up with EU workers 2023 13 Years of Austerity + Brexit means a Nurse from Nigeria with husband and 2 kids therefore 1.25 million migrants 1/2 being dependants This is what you voted for
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  550. Boris chucked a load out and replaced them with true believers
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  551.  @nightowl7459  you can automate fruit picking it would need government investment up front but would pay back over time reducing costs. Most farms need temporary accommodation for them. But it's that word again Investment and a long term approach which goes against Conservative economic values
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  552. What a distorted world view there is on here Biden has passed 48 bills in his 1st 2 years many of them bi-partisan He's started reducing the 7.5 trillion of debt accumulated through the Trump era and is reshoring jobs as well as pivoting the US economy to be the renewable tech leader of the world
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  553.  @James_36  the uk economy is on life support Back in 2010 debt to gdp was 62% its gone up year on year and is now 100% we borrowed 130 billion last year and core inflation is sticky BOE rate is unlikely to fall in the near future Energy prices have also trebled and the number of bancrupcies just keeps going up Reuters 16 Jun 2023 — Company insolvencies in England and Wales last month jumped 40% year on year to the highest level since monthly records began in January The £ has lost 70% against the € And economic growth has flattened since 2010, current average disposable income is back to 2006 levels
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  554. the way the reason the justice system is falling to pieces is Tory Austerity 20,000 police let go + 20,000 office staff + defunding councils and courts All you need to do to fix it is fund it and staff it properly, will that cost more not over time a broken system is inefficient and swallows money wholesale
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  555. ​ @rfurdaylee since voting to leave in 2016 our economy has lost close to 1 trillion that's 330 billion lost in tax revenue Why do you think the Cons have had to raise taxes and employ more civil servants red tape and bureaucracy in costs money
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  556.  @trevormappley  I'm a nothing were out the EU trying to bang the Brexit drum is nothing more than self flagellation and blame avoidance. I'd deal in the hear an now.
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  557. Another party representing the Billionaire class just what we need Sapps
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  558.  @sahhull  importing coal was always going to happen with the Cons signing onto supply side economics fk everyone else the market is king so go suck on it. The reason we're so gas dependent is the extreme free market fundamentalist approach preached by right wing politicians
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  559. Voting Reform is like Turkeys voting for Xmas
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  560. The ECHR is the last recourse against government overreach one which the Hillsborough victims used why would you give up that right?
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  561. ​ @nicholasweaver7809 who wants to vote for a party with lettuce liz economic policies Reform are the broken bits of the Tories
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  562. Why ? The average retirement income according to AGE UK is 18,148, there whole stick is to the improve lower paid, poverty costs the Government more money than curing it anyway not that you can get that through to thicko Cons
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  563.  @elric6084  Brown didn't crash pensions it was a stupid tax that only raised 5 billion a year. Brown borrowed around 250 billion to stabilise the banking system. In 2010 debt was 800 billion since then the Tories have borrowed 1.5 trillion around 3 times debt borrowed by every Labour government combined.
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  564. we got a Brexiteers Ultra budget and the markets told her and Kwerteng to F off and join planet reality were not funding a Libertarian wet dream economy that has 2 hopes of succeeding Bob hope and No hope On what astral plain does borrowing 70 billion to give to your rich mates who fund the Institute of Economic Affairs and the Tax Payers Alliance make fiscal sense?
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  565. ​ @mr90s48 so we should cancel vital infrastructure because the Tories couldn't run a bath let alone build a rail link?
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  566.  @billythewhizz8077  we have one it's called the ECHR
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  567. Hard right dunno what your drinking
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  568. ​ @paullewis2413  how? they have attainable policies which will boost the economy
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  569. Why net zero means cheaper energy and not being at the mercy of world fossil prices
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  570. He'll stay if they try and remove him he'll call a snap election, the Sun had an open letter from the billionaire donors backing him the billionaire media are soiling their pants trying to keep the assclown in power. Boris is the Billionaires btch there desperate for City deregulation so they can crash the markets again like they did in 2008
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  571. Importing/ exporting to and from the EU will thanks to the shit deal negotiated will add +25% to the cost of goods over the next few years That figure is made up of thousands of pages of added paperwork customs checks vetinary checks lorry delays additional customs and port staff etc etc.
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  572. There's a reason Brexit was a load of BS We are subject to trade gravity a country trades with its nearest neighbours the further away in distance you get the more costly it is to trade. Divergence introduces economic pain which adds costs to UK products for both import and sale not to the EU but everywhere. Not only are trade volumes for export down to the EU they are down in general as we become less and less competitive
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  573. There are 19 other cases in progress aside from this one young Donald has been a very naughty boy Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3) Tax evasion, money laundering, rape, inciting a riot, treason it's quite a charge sheet
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  574.  @Lunarfacia  were virtually on. WTO now hence the endless form filling tariffs on some goods having to prove country of origin, 27 different tax regimes. Etc
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  575. The problem Is CON ideology when your answer to everything is cut tax small state your not really addressing the problem. If you want less nurses from Nigeria you invest in training UK nurses if that means free University course for them so be it. If you want less fruit pickers you invest in the farmers so they can automate their harvest not just say get it from Morocco and ban workers.
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  576. So hows Brexit going in GBeebies Unicorn Land Hire an EU Nurse and you get 1 Nurse Hire a Filipino Nurse you get her Husband and 2 kids simples 200,000 becomes 750,000 because of dependants What did you think would happen a magic switch would create thousands of nurses willing to take a 30% pay cut since 2010
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  577.  @wavell14  your living in lala land, private healthcare cost the nation more and costs the people more it leads to price gouging lack of preventative services and escalating A and E costs because the poor can't afford insurance. Germany spends as a nation over 50% more for thier healthcare than we do with 12.5% gdp If you compare to Canada a well funded public service Germany are effectively wasting 2% of thier gdp on insurance and it's mechanisms. At less than 8% of GDP the NHS is the mother of all bargains Have you even looked at premiums or costs, how would the low paid even afford 1200 a month to cover a family?
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  578. ​the current talk in EU countries is 30,000 our totals have more than doubled since Brexit last year it was 80,000 So 30,000 + say 20,000 more sounds a good deal to me As this year its going to be near the 100,000 It's a better offer than what InActionMan is proposing housing migrants indefinitely at a current cost of 8 billion a year and escalating
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  579. they will just have to put in some more overtime then there is no way I want my taxes subsidising wealthy people to the tune of 6k
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  580. We voted to leave the EU Not The single Market or loose FOM We've had this crap shoved on us by a party who's voter base is geriatric and has zero skin in the economy
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  581. And the reason there in a hotel to start with is Tory incompetence
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  582.  @HonestBottom  the issue with Asylum and legal migration is Tory policy If you processed all the claims in a timely manner 40,000 would already be deported, last years claims where 82,000 of which 80% are accepted so 62,000 a year isn't a big number for a population of 68 million. More problematic is legal migration again due to a combination of Tory economic policy of not investing in the UK workforce and being outside the EU of the +1.25 million immigrants 1/2 were dependents when in the EU net migration had stabilised to +200,000 given our low birth rate a sustainable number if investment in physical and social infrastructure had been done and could also have been reduced.
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  583. Brexit has been an economic train wreck
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  584. At least we had 25% growth in average wages, I remember the good old bad old days when we could slag off a prime minister and still have wage growth and a vibrant economy. Now well the highest taxes in 80 years and the worst economic outlook in a 150
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  585. what's the point all Tories are bad this is what you get with Thatcherism
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  586. Blanket tax cuts don't generate growth here's why the markets freaked out All government spending is subject to an economic multiplier here's a recent example worked out that a 10% pay rise for NHS staff had an economic multiplier of 0.81 for every £1 spent the Treasury recovered 81p. The 1st hit is with the £1 getting hit with both income NI and student tax the remaining money is spent in the wider economy generating more GDP hence tax there is also every likelihood of reduced staff churn which generates savings and less money spent on Agency staff. This excludes benefits from having a fitter healthier workforce. Onto Truss's tax cuts in general these would have generated for every £1 cut between 20-30p in additional income through GDP growth because the economic multiplier is around 0.2-0.3 so its no wonder the markets freaked out. We have 50 years of data to look back on so this idea that cutting taxes is a magic recipe for growth is complete BS like other Zombie ideas the ultra wealthy keep resurrecting it because it benefits them and think the average person is too stupid to go learn how this stuff works
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  587. He's generally unpopular if you poll the electorate
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  588. Stick with the party that's pumping money into the rich and screwing you over then How much does your disposable income have to fall before you'll look at alternatives?
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  589. ? Last time that Labour were in power services were funded and not falling apart and average wages rose by +25%
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  590.  @robertbushnell5627  If you reduce the pool of labour your able to recruit from by 90% and have an ageing population with a birth rate of 1.6 (needs to be 2.1 to be stable) at the point you have a pandemic which hastens early retirement as well as introduce onerous visa requirements to replace your lost workforce then your going to have more than a few issues this is just the tip of the iceberg This is a Quote from Adam Posen a leading US economist from an article published in Bloomberg (business and market analysis) Most of the UK’s soaring inflation is down to Brexit Adam Posen said 80 per cent of the reason why the UK will see the highest inflation of any G7 country next year, as per the latest IMF forecasts, is due to the impact of Brexit on immigration and the labour market. He warned that Britain is showing to be less elastic than its counterparts in its post-pandemic recovery, and that it could be trapped in a high inflationary period for longer. “You’ve seen a huge drop in migrant labour, a disruption in labour markets that everybody experienced due to Covid and reopening, but with fundamentally less elasticity… and that [Brexit] has to be a major part of it,” he told a conference at Kings College in London yesterday. “When you look at the monetary factors, the growth factors… the UK doesn’t look that different from the euro area. “When you look at the macro factors, it’s very difficult to see anything other than the labour market issues. “There’s been no regulatory changes… It really seems like Brexit has to bear a disproportionate role in explaining the inflation.”
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  591. because its the last refuge against government overreach especially given you can have a majority on 36% with the bulk of that number pensioners.
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  592.  @barryj388  we got lucky we had a channel to defend bit difficult rolling tanks across it.
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  593. Which bit? Screwing over working for the rich is par forr the course
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  594.  @ruairi110  I feel genuinely sorry for you but the Cons are mix of liars and the delusional that believe the lies. The UK govt have no leverage and the unionists stamping thier feet and threatening trouble will just result in more hot air from the likes of Frost. Instead of getting angry with the protocol and EU blame the Cons and the DUP who both sold you a crock sht
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  595. Brexit's only aim was to stitch the Tory Party together and see off challenges from the right to retain power There was never a plan and still isn't There's no economic value in trying to get rid of laws standards and regulations in the opposite is strue it will add further costs to businesses If you want to get rid of regulations embedded in laws you need to go through each one and rewrite it bringing it before parliment for scrutiny
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  596. Words matter He was told by his adviser not to repeat the slur it was premeditated and disgusting Especially as the origins of this are from extreme far right websites and message boards populated by neo Nazis and white supremacists such as the Patriot Alternative.
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  597. I agree get them processed rejoin the EU so we have a common policy and halve the numbers
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  598. what's the point in a vote you wouldn't want legal migration stopping anyway your taxes would go up and you'd have a managed regulated economy
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  599.  @Casual_laughter  tax base is low compared to other European economies Trying to maintain low taxes feeds immigration
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  600. They just said they wouldn't put up VAT, ni and basic rate How is that lying? Even if the Tories had got in there would have been tax rises their plan was to up pension age to 68
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  601. The protocol is already in action just kind of in a soft way, the businesses in NI have been realigning their supply chain with the South away from the UK because Brexit. Why the Cons and the DUP are having a meltdown is the plan was to use NI as leverage, the assumption by the Brexiteers was they could someone either force the South to leave the EU or break the EU market and still keep frictionless trade. What has happened is the EU supply chain has rerouted through Cherburg -Roslare and has abandoned GB as a land bridge with all the lost trade that entails for GB. It leaves the Brexiteers with FA leverage and a morphing situation of Irish unification in all but name.
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  602. The Conservative party morphed into UKIP to stave off a challenge from the right wing nut jobs at the last election ditching all the moderates who wouldn't sign up to Boris's hardliners Brexit. This bag of sht is who you wanted and who you voted for, Farage and his bunch of right wing idiots are even worse
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  603. It matters to me not I'm all in on a new Labour government I can't wait but I'm curious why you think that a more extreme economic model of turbo charged Thatcherism will have a different effect and not continue to shrink the economy and drive up legal immigration
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  604. Why is 62,000 asylum seekers so important to you? We had +1.25 million legal migration with 1/2 being dependent Rwanda is a dog and pony show for the gulible
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  605. You can't cut taxes we have a debt to gdp ratio of > 100% and the people buying Gilts think the Brexit Ultra's are talking out of their arse over growth Before anyone starts banging on about Labour here are some facts 2010 gdp ratio 62% 2019 gdp ratio 92% due to the Cameron corporate tax cuts which didn't stimulate growth and went straight on the uk credit card 2023 we have less people in full time employment than in 2019 the economy has shrunk in real terms since then accounting for inflation economists predict it should be +10% which = around 80 billion in lost tax revenues if we where still in the single market and had FOM
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  606. All councils are struggling, central funding has been cut by 40% and housing stock asset stripped and not replaced by right to buy Last year housing support cost 20 billion and it will get worse if the 2 million council houses aren't replaced
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  607. what message? we know how to make magic unicorns? The issue is right wing economic policy that needs a constant supply of migrant Labour why will voting for a Party that promises the same economic model but by the power of magic Unicorns doesn't need the migrant Labour? If you want lower immigration you need to change the tax model increase taxes and spend it on training the domestic workforce as well as other infrastructure spending
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  608. Lie Nice try though
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  609. Boats were 1/2 what they are now when we were in and legal migration has skyrocketed
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  610. There hard right populist The nearest we've got to centre anything was Blair
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  611. what choice did they have after Liz burnt the fiscal house down?
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  612.  @jowallis8  No its not Shipping costs rose by 300% and 600% to the far East and Airfreight costs have doubled in the past 2 years. Global Britain was a pipedream to start with from a failed economic model of Globalisation from 50 years back its completely dead now. Since when are we going to be able to turn a profit on exports to the far east and say India your having a laugh. All were going to get is rising imports and falling exports resulting in balance of trade deficits and higher taxation.
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  613. @MinkieWinkle  you have zero clue how the grid works Or How load balancing works on it Battery storage needs zero maintenance is always on and is software controlled, the savings on gas are off the scale your talking capital repayment within a year
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  614. don't be stupid
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  615.  @ashwilliams4959  there are 8 trillion reasons, the Trump admin is responsible for 1/4 of the entire US debt
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  616. @uniquevideosUk  More renewables will make energy prices come down, a Tesla MegaPack will save billions in peak load management Insulation to A+ standard will save billions All councils have had thier central government funding cut by 40%, most of the Labour ones are cities who have higher statutory expenditure mandated by government, for example housing due to selling off 2 million council houses the housing support bill is 20 billion some councils are spending nearly 45% of thier total budget on it So don't come on here with a load of half baked talking points you've been spoon fed by interested parties with zero facts to back them up
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  617. @ricochet2977  Just driven through Germany there's building wind turbines everywhere When you Wang on about fossil your ignoring the fact they decommissioned thier nuclear plant early + base load is 40% We have 20% nuclear before you even start our issue is additional capacity being filled by very expensive stand by gas which should be replaced with modern battery storage. We have 20-30 points to go at before your even considering base load + we're at the stage with the ever reduced battery costs of more domestic offlining with solar installations
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  618. Right wing economics got us here and you want more extreme Right wing economics How does that work exactly? If you don't invest in training up Nurses you need to import them, if your not in the EU they fetch their dependants with them it's not rocket science
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  619. I studied economics a long time ago but the fundamentals don't change, Sunak has an economics degree but fails to implement anything he was ever taught about economics in general and instead follows free market fundamentalist policies. Those policies only work for the top 1% and screw everyone else, get it cheaper from cheap child labour in Asia then go ahead let it undercut British business who can go to the wall. He was a Hedge fund manager they are like locusts stripping assets and creating nothing but pocketing the wealth they can squeeze out of companies before loading them with debt.
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  620. economic policies will benefit them more that the Tories
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  621. @angelmedia9051  why?
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  622. Blair / Brown +25% on average wages services that work Cameron /May -3% on average wages Johnson Truss Sunak -?? services that are run down to the bone and are on life support The tax-to-GDP ratio in the United Kingdom has increased from 32.7% in 2000 to 33.5% in 2021 debt to gdp rom 62% to a projected 103% in 2023 (don't blame the pandemic it was 92% in 2019)
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  623. So Scrapping paid holiday leave will be a real advantage grow up this is all about pissing on the workers and turning the uk into a sweat shop
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  624.  @clayblaze1327  and you voted Tory my my
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  625.  @harishkaria5644  not true the last 14 years has seen 10+ million Try harder
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  626. How about build them in factories and make them affordable
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  627. in 2010 we should have raised taxes to cover the deficit 14 years later someone is finally tackling the problem
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  628.  @contemplating1015  Depends what you cut We need a second rail line to take intercity traffic off the old line to then have more local services. Our local trains are rammed to the gills Not saying we needed HighSpeed but there's a huge economic drag by not having the capacity. Also Outsourcing, privatisation of Public Monopolies, selling off Council Houses without replacing them, PPI ALL have a negative economic effec and vastly increase government spending, everything costs more than it should
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  629. There doing well because they can promise things that will never be enacted because they will never form a government, if you did try and enact them such as UKIP visa scheme which the Tories adopted it would go tits up.
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  630. were already borrowing 130 billion a year to fund the myriad of tax breaks for the wealthy we have an energy crisis which needs investment in and there promising to lower taxes for the wealthy how does that work? If you pump 28 billion into renewable energy it has an economic multiplier of a minimum 1.6 which means for every £1 you put in it creates enough GDP to return £1.6 in additional taxation. As a pensioner this will help me enormously because it will lower energy costs and I'm home most of the day far more than any tax cut. Getting energy costs down to 2020 levels would be the equivalent to me of my tax going from 20% to 10%
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  631. @jollygolly-f4m And the reason the Tories lost so badly was chasing after reform voters with insanely bad policies. Farage described Truss' budget as, “the best Conservative budget since 1986”
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  632. Best case they both get screwed.
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  633.  @woodstockxx  money spent on Ukraine is less than the tax cut for Millionaire Pensioners in the last budget. Were also offloading loads of old surplus stuff. You need to widen your reading if your going to Wang on about budgets
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  634.  @anglodoomer5995  so the man stomping his feet saying gimme Ukraine or else isn't the aggresor? Weird only reason he hasn't invaded yet is Ukrainian resolve and US missiles
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  635. Just another slogan sorry that's all your going to get with this lot
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  636. We've been living on tick with the Tories for 14 years The 1st thing they did was put up VAT and lower CGT and corporation tax while subjecting us all to brutal Austerity
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  637. Why there doing there job representing asylum applicants if the system wasn't so broken by the Tories they'd be hardly needed Just as yourself why so many are just in limbo not being processed?
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  638.  @Fan-nothing  no it hasn't the service economy is mainly border-less and not subject to trade friction
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  639. All private car sales are down + used car prices, its called a cost of living crisis
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  640. @jameshall6061  your view seems tainted with msm opinion which skews heavily towards the Cons. I've listened to both on long form podcasts and there perfectly articulate and present thier points well
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  641. At least average wages increased by 25% This lot have shrunk them by -3% on top of the -3% Cameron and May managed
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  642. ​ @libertasdemocratiam887 lied and had her staff come out and lie on her behalf It's not the offence that's the issue its the cover up and lies around it
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  643. we've had 3 years of chaos and were now getting higher taxes than at any time since WW2 plus a shrinking purchasing power and that's after negative wage growth and a stagnant economy under Cameron / May. In those 12 years we've had huge increases in corporate profits and money flowing to the top creating the biggest wealth gap in comparison to other European countries. Voting Tory is literally bad for your wallet
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  644.  @markbanner6473  Under Blair / Brown real wages rose by 25% the deficit was a fraction of its current dizzy heights and we had real growth. Under Cameron real wages fell by -3% and the economy stagnated in terms of growth under Johnson real wages are shrinking again and were in stagflation with the highest personal taxation since the war. The economy has performed that badly in the last 12 years that even before the pandemic the deficit was rising under Tory priorities and we've seen a reduction of 25% in services.
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  645. Vaccines protect against measles mumps rubella wooping cough TB smallpox etc. If parents have been rotting their brains with anti vax garbage it's time for the kids to take control and say no to life threatening diseases
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  646. Reeve has an economics degree from the LSE and experience at the BOE Starmer ran the DPP reducing crime year on year till he left
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  647. The latest brain fart from the government is illegal and just another show pony while doing sweet FA Asylum claims where always going to go because of Brexit you were told and it happened its almost like cooperating with your neighbours and allies has benefits who would have thought.
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  648. I want a labour government with well funded services
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  649.  @middleman9183  we had them before back in 2010. The reason the economy has stagnated has been down to Tory austerity and defunding the social floor.
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  650. And do what? Farage's common sense is rooted in ignorance and an extremely simplistic short term view of problems If you want to green up farming while maintaining food production you'd need a national 25 year strategy to move farmers away from mono crops increase hedge rows and adopt a no till strategy with companion planting reducing fertiliser use to near zero At the same time you'd build glass house vertical farms near large population centres
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  651. If you run the demographic changes through with older having a higher % leave and younger remain the current population 8 years on would be 55% remain. You've had 8 years to sort this out its a complete economic car crash time to admit your mistakes
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  652.  @mike747436  There are multiple companies looking at NI as a Bridge to the EU those plans will not be implemented till the Protocol is implemented. The leverage the Brextremists thought they had through the land bridge was dismantled within months.
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  653. Why is the Labour Party the Lib-Dem Party and the Greens unelectable? We've had 12 years of economic stagnation culminating in the current bunch who are even worse than Cameron and May For the record Average wage growth under Blaire / Brown +25% Average wage growth under Cameron / May -3% Under Johnson its projected to be -3/4% with 8% inflation on what planet is the alternative worse?
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  654. Yea right no regulations on the gig economy where offshore companies fetched in low wage zero hour labour
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  655.  @richardgallagher4880  it's no longer able to trade in euro bonds from 2024 loosing a 3.5 trillion market
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  656. I'm looking forward to it
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  657.  @richardsculley67  the labour shortages were accelerated by the pandemic and Brexit at the same time I'd agree with that But When you move from a roll on roll off ferry transport system to one requiring checks the throughput declines, we are an island by simply slowing down the movement of freight your slowing down the economy all major economies bar the UK and Russia are back to over pre pandemic levels. What's the connection between the 2 countries ? One has trade sanctions foisted upon it by the world for starting a war and the other deliberately put trade sanctions and barriers on itself.
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  658. it closed because it is uneconomic A coal fired power station has unit costs of x 2.5 times that of offshore wind The reason our energy prices are so high are the rolling back of labours 2010 green agenda and reliance on GAS
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  659.  @Yorci62  It's about cost to the consumer. Gas has extraction, processing and transport costs Renewable energy does not. Savings accelerate over time because wind and solar input energy are not subject to inflation, and currently renewable infrastructure costs are falling in real terms. Both a Gas Generator and a wind farm have maintenance costs if you say a unit of both now costs 100 in 10 years the unit provided by wind will have increased marginally in line with maintenance. If you factor in +5% cost rises to gas year on year over 10 years that 100 unit now costs 160 + maintenance. Offshore wind reached Cost parity back in 2020 with base gas generation before the crisis.
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  660.  @davehallett810  gold? Where not on that old chestnut He had a plan to recover from the Banking crisis and 2 years in it was slowly turning things round. The cuts he was going to make where across the board and no where as severe as Austerity a 2013 analysis showed Tory Austerity was for every £1 saved in public sector removing £1.60 from the wider economy. Faced with this evidence in 2013 Austerity became a political choice leading to Camerons tax cuts which by 2019 had ballooned the deficit to 92% of GDP from 62 in 2010 and stagnating the economy on the way with a negative 2% wage growth and a £ to Euro rate dropping from 1.50 Anyway the Tories are toast the levels of corruption and incompetence has ballooned with Johnson and now Truss
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  661.  @uniquevideosUk  quote The volume of UK goods imports and exports was 7.4 per cent smaller in 2023 than in 2018, the largest five-year decline in goods trade since comparable records began in 1997, according to FT calculations of data published by the Office for National Statistics on Friday.
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  662. It would make a nice change if they had a clue about economics. Freezing thresholds especially at 20% takes money out of the working economy at the bottom If you spend it on millionaire pensioner taxbreaks and IHT nearly all of it gets transfered to asset values your deliberately shrinking the economy If you combine this with Energy prices 2021 uk consumers spent 30 billion on energy 2023 uk consumers will spend 170 billion on energy You are seeng the largest transfer of Capital out of the uk economy shrinking real disposable income in UK history EVER
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  663. Yea but last time Labour were in they didn't fail the decade had average wages rising by +25% current living standards and disposable income levels are now back to 2006 and everything is broken
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  664. Some will move not all they live here for a reason, if its not paying tax they can fk off as far as I'm concerned we don't want them
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  665. We have socialism for the rich capitalism for the poor. See that tax break for millionaire pensioners costing 4 billion that's socialism for the rich as they take government handouts
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  666. sending people without due process to a concentration camp in East Africa at 167,000 a pop with a max limit of 10,000 My father and his family have been there in WW2 its fkin imoral disgusting degrading beyond contempt for people advocating it just go the whole hog and have the "taken care" of here miss out the middle man. That doesn't even address the 6 billion wasted on NOT processing the Asylum claims due to sheer incompetence. Its an expensive show pony because the Tories have nothing else they've wrecked the economy we've shyte all over the water system the NHS and schools are falling to pieces and what are we to do Hold Our Nerve?
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  667. ​ @Dilbert-o5k our Nige has some well dodgy friends. Quite a few sanctioned or been criminally charged
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  668. Yea we could do with a better voting system but voting for the Billionaires no thanks
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  669. It didn't take long for this sht stain of a channel to plumb the gutter did it Is that all the right wing have got some vague guilt by association of being a hundred miles away from the the case how PATHETIC quote A lawyer for Jimmy Savile’s victims has accused Boris Johnson of “weaponising their suffering” by falsely claiming Sir Keir Starmer failed to prosecute him. Richard Scorer, whose law firm Slater and Gordon (UK) represented 168 Savile victims seeking compensation, said that victims are “angry, upset and disgusted” by the Prime Minister’s comments. One victim of Savile said the Prime Minister’s false claim against Sir Keir had triggered all the flashbacks
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  670.  @tonysheerness2427  we don't know what rules he's broken or the structure of his transactions and income and I don't get why anyone would associate an elite millionaire who has complex tax affairs probably offshore funds with your average man in the street with a bank account and CARE. If they can do this to an Elite Millionaire they can do it to you doesn't really roll off the tongue
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  671.  @alexedwards6509  Do they have over 1 million in the account and have unusual transaction patterns? Don't waste your tears on the grifter
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  672.  @dangerousfables  last budget 2 billion on Millionaire pensioner tax cut, 8 billion in bankers tax giveaway, 6 billion in additional subsidies to the fossil fuel industry. There's loads more but these were the headliners and the big bucks.
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  673.  @aaronaaronson7600  That only accounts for around 1 Trillion since 2016
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  674. @aaronaaronson7600  not quite true that was the projected economic hit estimates last I saw where 5.5% but the bleed out from Brexit started in 2016 when long term investment was put on hold by major companies in the UK, given that planning is in the 5-7 year mark where feeling the slow disintegration of major companies not investing. By the way 1% of gdp = 8 billion to the treasury per annum shortfall is 44 billion not counting lost growth and investment were fkd basically
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  675. How can you tear up 50 + years of UK Law by unelected civil servants each law needs parliamentary debate. If you thought the economy tanked with Liz Truss just enact this piece of Bats**t piece of rubbish
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  676. Looking at demographics and voting patterns given the age of a lot of those voters the total left all things being equal is 11.5 million Younger people on the whole were +70% in favour of remain so on basic maths your looking at 55% pro 45 anti as a best case not taking into account switchers who feel they were betrayed and lied to.
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  677. @TOP.FOX.  the under 20's voted remain +90% the over 70's +30:%
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  678. common sense would be to process them in a timely manner and not deliberately use them as political pawns 80,000 applied last year @ 80% success rate means where keeping 62,000 a year there's 180,000 in the system meaning where housing 36,000 who should already have been deported and 144,000 who should be working in the economy
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  679.  @Bobisalive  Increased the numbers in limbo so it makes the problem look worse so she has a soapbox to gob off about everyone stopping her dealing with it
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  680. GB news is opinion and its owners are a Dubai hedge fund so the GB is a bit of a stretch As someone who is interested in politics its been sad to see the the decent of the Tory part into a populist vacuum lacking in prospective and morals. You could forgive Cameron for his Austerity based politics in the view that he believed he was doing his best for the country (at lest a section of it) but the current regime make huge claims then lie about the reality of it if challenged and get boosted by channels like this who will excuse any behaviour. Apparently we have a tax cutting chancellor despite the highest individual tax burden in 70 years and the fastest growing economy yet real wages have shrunk in a fashion not seen since the Napoleonic war 150 years ago how's that work?
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  681. If you invest in the UK population as Labour are proposing you'll need less foreign labour to fill skills gaps Tory economic policy is driving the high levels of legal migration and brexit is making it so they fetch more dependents
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  682. ​ @gavsewell6903 it's not like they've not been warned what happens when you employ Lettuce Liz economics
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  683. We stopped fracking because of earthquake activity caused by the test drilling. Fracking involves pushing through below the water table then sideways into the shale rock then pumping a toxic mix of chemicals to split and recover the gas, the earthquakes can fracture the seam between the shale and the water table poisoning the water for the whole of the greater Manchester and Bradford Leeds area.
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  684.  @fwcolb  it's safe when it's no where near a large population the test site produced earthquakes the largest was 2.9if the toxic goop gers into the water table it poisons millions
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  685. course he will he'll open legal routes for applicants which destroys the business model of the traffickers also They will process the Asylum claims deporting 40,000 staying here illegally and save 6 Billion in costs as well as boosting treasury receipts by 2 billion due to the enhanced economic activity of the people granted applications.
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  686. It's the elites trying to scare you because Labour will have to rip out the Trickle down cr*p that lets them pay little to no tax to put into public services and get them working again
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  687. Labour don't have to put up taxes Sunak has done it for them your threshold is frozen till 2028 no matter what and he's screwed over pensioners
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  688. It's 4% of the population I'm medium wealthy you'd need to be stinking rich or stupid to pay IHT, from a couple to kids you can legitimately hive off a couple of mill tax free using various exceptions
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  689. It will reduce energy bills by 2/3rds by moving away from our reliance on GAS you know that thing that is controlled on world commodity markets that we have no say in pricing
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  690. only 13.5% in Northern Ireland
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  691. Labour don't have to put up taxes Sunak has done it for them your threshold is frozen till 2028 no matter what and he's screwed over pensioners
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  692.  @El.Cid17  Uk pensions lag way behind the rest of Europe try living on 1 its 11502.20 most people have a small top up which puts them into paying tax but well below the minimum wage in total. My tax has gone up by +£550 because of fiscal drag
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  693. You've got brexit this is it There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow more brexit won't make it appear by magic
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  694. Let's be clear globalisation means lowering standards to rock bottom and importing the cheapest crap you can get away with flooding the local market and putting local industry and producers out of business for........ A few quick millions screw the social costs of decades of unemployment and decline. If you want an example look what happened when they started importing cheap Chinese steel or cheap Australian coal.
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  695. Blair / Brown +25% on average wages services that work Cameron /May -3% on average wages Johnson Truss Sunak -?? services that are run down to the bone and are on life support The tax-to-GDP ratio in the United Kingdom has increased from 32.7% in 2000 to 33.5% in 2021 debt to gdp rom 62% to a projected 103% in 2023 (don't blame the pandemic it was 92% in 2019) I'm going to vote Labour to be better off
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  696.  @rikmorley1729  it would take over a decade to reverse economic policies embedded in the system, migration isn't a tap you can turn on and off
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  697. common sense would be to process them in a timely manner and not deliberately use them as political pawns 80,000 applied last year @ 80% success rate means where keeping 62,000 a year there's 180,000 in the system meaning where housing 36,000 who should already have been deported and 144,000 who should be working in the economy
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  698. More fool you one set of right wing con men for another
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  699. We borrowed 130 billion last year and payed 120 billion in interest costs thanks to the Cons, we've also had public pay suppression which has driven migration through the roof. Unless you have some offshore trust fund no sure why your bothered?
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  700. there are alternatives we just choose not to use them
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  701. How are you going to reduce legal migration? If the Tories cut training budgets and depress salaries for Nurses and doctors but you still need nurses and doctors your going to have to import them. It would take nearly a decade to repair the economic damage of Austerity
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  702.  @xelthiavice4276  yes it will for a start there are 180,000 in the system if you processed them all tomorrow that would mean 36,000 being deported and 144,000 not being propped up by the state for political purposes. Last year 80,000 people applied for asylum of which 80% will be granted 62,000 from a population of 68 million is not a lot
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  703.  @tammyturowski6703  use my bank card but back on topic the main reason for the rant here appears to be against tax evasion money laundering and a whole host of illegal activities associated with cash transactions Nige doesn't give a toss about anyone but himself
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  704. there in hotels because the government hasn't processed them an deliberately slow rolls to make the situation worse
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  705. ​ @mikebarnes3557 he's right go look who owns this its propaganda to push billionaire interests
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  706. We have our own laws every 1 of the 4000+ where passed by parliment if you want to change them every single 1 needs reviewing and debating in parliment
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  707.  @viper_fan  no it doesn't there are 1 million and 1 flavours It just means whatever guff comes out of a politicians mouth at any single day, business needs access to the single market or the economy will keep spiralling downwards
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  708.  @viper_fan  we'll be back with some sort of cobbled together access to the single market. 2 reasons Energy and Northern Ireland
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  709. Insulating homes to A+ standard reduces your energy bills and is extremely cost effective lowering standards for landlords increases the burden on tenants who are getting scalped as it is EV's reached cost parity with ICE this year without subsidies and they have yet to touch the economies of scale that further investment and production will bring so by not investing in Infrastructure your increasing costs for the public and lowering the UK's productivity. Renewables reached cost parity with gas back in 2019 so Tice is 4 years out of date (No Surprise there then)
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  710. @garygreen1782  well there you go Cons for you don't forget to thank Hu nt on the way out
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  711. His economic policies are as fanciful as Liz Truss's were, does Tice really believe his own BS
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  712.  @anonnemo2504  Not enough to pay for the tax cut the last big Tax cut to Corporation tax by Osborne produced 0.5% GDP over the period it was in force collecting an additional 40 billion at a cost to the Treasury of 200 billion. The millionaire pensioner tax cut costing 4 billion by Sunak will return even less as the money goes straight into pension assets so straight out of the working economy. The 20% threshold will be higher but NO tax cut creates more growth than it costs
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  713.  @johnjolliffe  why would they increase immigration? If you want to lower immigration Short term you would have to alter the visa system to make it so European workers could travel and work hassle free, the current number of 1.25 million is a direct result of Brexit and having to hand out semi permanent visas to people coming from India Nigeria and the Philippines who fetch thier families with them. You then change the tax system to a fairer model and invest in a modern transport system and improve your social infrastructure with free education and a well run NHS so you don't have to permanently keep importing labour How do you get this disconect about migration? It's a direct result of economic policy you can't have low tax without constan supply side migration
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  714. Betrayed? there are no benefits to Johnson's Brexit
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  715. why would anyone vote to remove their human rights and worse rely on this bunch of lying chancers not to abuse it
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  716. blame the Tories
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  717. Drilling and production are not guaranteed it may well have to be re-shelved on safety or other grounds and its 5-7 years before it will enter the market plus it all gets traded on the world commodity market us any. You can add more turbines to ems in under a year and have a new offshore development in 2/3 plus we need to invest in tidal
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  718. Then why has he proposed to tackle the Smuggling gangs introducing new powers to sieze thier assets. This is proper leadership on the issue not 1/2 a billion spent on a posturing gimmick to send 0.2% to Rwanda
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  719. Why is this such a big story Abbot has marginalised herself over the last couple of years Why are we not talking about the Trickle down budget from Hell 2 billion in millionaire pensioner giveaways 8 billion tax cut for bankers additional 6 billion additional tax break for fossil fuel companies verses Fiscal drag adding £1000 per person Corporation tax going up Student loan repayment extended to 40 years and reduced limit for payback 16.5% food inflation 50%+ energy inflation
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  720. Why all the misogyny?
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  721. No you weren't you've been fossil independent since the tail end of the Bush era through 4 Presidential terms, just get your facts straight and check them
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  722. Its just a bone to the far right of the Con party Doris wants the division and argument makes like he's doing something pathetic in its blinding obviousness
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  723.  @daveday6728  Its actually 3 times more debt than every labour government total labour borrowing including Atlee is around 500 billion since 2010 the Cons have borrowed 1.6 trillion
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  724. That's sarcasm I take it?
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  725. No major company will set up in the UK Johnson's hard Brexit destroyed the On-Demand supply chain what used to take overnight or a day or so now takes weeks and tons of paperwork Medium sized companies are transferring business to the EU to avoid it and back in 2016 the EU started upgrading Irelands road port infrastructure so goods from the EU didn't have to use GB as a land bridge
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  726.  @garemacquarrie6705  GBN are owned by a billionaire offshore with connections to the Legatum Institute a Libertarian think tank ( for the world elite)
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  727. Desperate much? This bs can be refuted with a quick Google. Nice try tho x by the way Thatcher knighted him and Edwina Curry gave him unfettered access to hospitals
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  728. Its called freedom of expression, think about what your supporting by swallowing this bilge its a straight line to Authoritarianism and fascism
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  729. Wars are fought between sovereign nations Hamas is a state sponsored terrorist group not a nation Persecuting a war against Gaza isn't going to destroy Hamas they have no army and the government as such is falling to pieces so what is Israel's intention ?
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  730. It will be in the OBR report I can tell you were its from anyway the Cons were told there was no room for tax cuts but blew 20 billion on a pre election unfunded NI bribe
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  731. They can't cut immigration without shrinking the economy further because its the Conservative economic model that's driving it higher in the 1st place
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  732. It was a giveaway by Thatcher to buy votes , she pissed all the Utility money and oil revenues on it
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  733. He used campaign funds, screwing a porn star isn't a claimable expense aside from that there are 19 other cases in progress Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3) Tax evasion, money laundering, rape, inciting a riot, treason, theft young Donald has been a busy boy
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  734. One of the reasons our economy is totally stagnant is the lack of investment in the social floor, the more you lower it with Tory punching down the harder it is to get on the capitalist ladder. The Tories answer appears to be there not punching down hard enough Marvellous such a lack of self awareness and ability to see the consequences of their actions
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  735. 3.9% the limit is around 1 million for a couple so no it doesn't affect most in the South East and even then its only paid by the stupid there are loads of ways to increase the limit legally @beachcaster56 
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  736. In terms of economic numbers Trump was the worst since Hoover and the great depression -3.6 gdp over 4 years -6 million jobs Under Biden so far they've got record employment fastest growing economy in the g7 If you look at the raw numbers the Republicans were a disaster
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  737. They've a range of people with some on the fringe, the Cons have had 10 dismissed from parliament for various reasons, Peter Bone's lover is the Con representative up for election says it all about the Tories
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  738.  @emmahowells8334  no you wouldn't he's a psychotic autocrat
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  739. so how much tax did Sunak pay on 3 million? was it 47% ? was it chuff he paid 21p in the pound How much tax did Michele Moan pay on 60 million profit = ZERO it got squirrelled Offshore And how much tax does a property costing 8 million used to Launder money in Mayfair get taxed well less than a detached house costing 250 in Burnley  @areyoustupid..... 
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  740. Tory government simples
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  741. You've the lowest death total from covid the fastest economic recovery and expected GDP growth of 3% only matched by Canada But hey your welcome to the UK's death disease economic misery zero growth ultra high taxes NHS buckling under 2 million long covid cases
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  742.  @uniquevideosUk  There's been 12 ministers of the PO in that time and they are the go to vote for those who thought brex1t was a crock of sh1t and Nige is a BS gas bag and are sick of stuff getting worse. Like the potholes everywhere the sewage in the river and RAAC in our local hospital
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  743.  @Flibbles  nearly all the cases brought before it are against the government of the day
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  744. You'll get lower fuel prices with renewable the high cost on electric is down to using gas to generate electric especially for short term demand Offshore wind £40 per kilowatt hour contract price Nuclear £92 OffGem spot price £200+ The fossil industry will pump out all sorts of bollox to keep its cash cow delivering trillions in record profits Quote A multimillionaire Brexit donor funding anti-‘net zero’ campaigns is the director of a company with tens of millions of pounds invested in oil and gas. The revelation comes as chancellor Rishi Sunak is expected to bow to pressure from the motor industry and cut fuel duty in his spring Budget statement on Wednesday. Investment manager Jeremy Hosking has given millions to political parties including the Conservatives and Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party/Reform UK, as well as Vote Leave. Recently, he has been bankrolling Laurence Fox’s Reclaim Party, which has campaigned against ‘net zero’, and has been linked to a climate denial group.
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  745. There has never been a majority of those in the working population who would have to implement the nutsack idea you were sold, and quite frankly we've given up because the lot of you appear clueless We have brex1t it's sh1t and we told you so yet your off on another crusade to damage the country further
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  746.  @uingaeoc3905  Jonson has repeatedly said he's not going to play by the rules in a blind misguided view of British exceptionalism and that they should bend to our world view. He's been told and better told No, oven ready my arse
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  747. Most of them are older white male and racist so no
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  748. So why is Starmer worse? Reeve appears to understand supply /demand economics and isn't wedded to Thatcherism which is a good start
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  749.  @colinmelling6369  he can but you don't listen h quotes the legal definition Female human being; a person assigned a female sex at birth, or a person who defines herself as a woman.
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  750.  @brianchandler1365  dianne abbot isn't evenn standing next election Given that the current shadow cabinet are up against the likes of Coffey and Braverman they make Abbot look preffreble
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  751. NatCon is a vehicle for billionaire and the fossil industries interests, stop listening to propaganda and follow the money
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  752.  @oldshiny3012  The question here is on huge overspend by the party in government not what about look over there deflect deny oh but the other side does xxx If you want to ass kiss Tories in public go ahead
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  753.  @richardpeddie2060  by the way do you know how stupid you sound screaming that the shadow deputy PM doesn't need IT equipment to do her job. Think about it
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  754. @2aph0d_b33blebr0x you Brown nosing Tory fan boys need to get out more work always provides IT equipment I take it your still on quill and parchment
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  755.  @trucker4567  I take it you've figured out we've moved into the IT age then and are feeling Salty at having it pointed out?
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  756. [What like a Chancellor that has an economics degree from the LSE some actual policies to deal with the shortages of Energy and Housing that are contributing to inflation? The current government are doing fk all about the shortages of energy and hoping it will go away if the BOE raises rates enough
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  757. There refugees and Rwanda concentration camps are about as sick as you can get
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  758. What a bunch of self righteous overpaid pricks. The standard on this channel sinks ever lower
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  759. What by deliberately tanking the economy by not having the skilled workers to expand the GDP and pay taxes for their pensions?
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  760. ​ @paullewis2413  true dat
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  761. You need the migration if you run Supply Side Trickle Down Economics aka Thatcherism If you want to cut immigration you shouldn't vote for right wing parties there economic low tax low regulation model uses migrant labour to feed it To cut the need for migrant labour you need to change the economic model and invest in the UK and its workforce such as modern transport links free University etc.
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  762. Taxation while high the base is still lower than Europe If you want a fairer tax system that doesn't put a high burden on work stop voting for right wing parties that follow Thatcherite trickle down economics
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  763.  @nezzam100  If you want to run a renewable grid you need flatten and fatten the demand duck curve. In doing that your not paying for large gas power plants to be on standby for mere minutes a day. Modern grid smoothing technology to couple with renewables is automatic, software driven and unmanned. The theoretical cost savings are 75% personally think given our sh1te privatised system we will get 30-40 with the rest being leeched to the private sector. The reason for keeping the current system is the current standby stations make their owners a small fortune which we pay for
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  764. I'm a pnsioner were the generation that got everything, subsidised housing, free higher education, low tax from asset stripping and oil money and tax free savings
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  765.  @markdowns9607  everything privatised is more expensive, private companies exist to make a profit and to pay shareholders and the executives as much as possible The notion that the private sector can do things better and cheaper is farcical
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  766. ​@martinweaver7873 right wing economic policy drives migration by not investing in social infrastructure
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  767. ​ @derekcrawley7329 we've had 14 years o stagnation under Labour the economy grew on average 2.5% increasing average wages by +20%
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  768. There's loads of grey field sites in the green belt we have dishes airfields from ww2 and it can take up to 14 years to get planning for a pylon This country is a joke at times this guy needs to get a reality check
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  769.  @AngusTuttle  not at all there just Ideological and won't listen to Contra beliefs that go against their world view no matter what evidence you put in front of them. I've listen to Osborne many times say I believe in a small state, it's something based on an unshakeable faith that Thatcher was right
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  770. He's banned under the US constitution, this is the least of his legal troubles he's aided and abetted computer hacking in Georgia breaking into a Voting Machine caries the penalty of 5 years its not like his minions in the couldn't shoot straight gang didn't get themselves captured on CCTV @charleswhite758
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  771. why the stupid as fk transphobia He's quoted the legal definition loads of times people are just dicks about it and have an agenda
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  772. First off railtrack are back in government ownership and secondly the government underwrites the rail industry its a fake to call it private it gets loads of public money. Last year with the help of government subsidies the network made 500 million profit which went to shareholders and bosses with bonuses and a 6% pay rise
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  773. According to Oxford University researchers, ending fossil fuel use by 2050 will save the world at least $12 trillion (€11.3 trillion). The study disproves the fallacy that going green is economically difficult, says Professor Doyne Farmer, who led the study We are dependant on Fossil because the Fossil lobby want us to be and will do anything to stop the gravy train being turned off
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  774. Don't worry inflation will be back up again due to energy costs which were 30 billion in 2021 and will be 170 billion this year Then there's the mortgage rate rises as people come off thier fixed terms We're still goingto have the biggest drop in living standards over 1 parliment in history
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  775. Your assuming we don't take any energy saving measures I've just fitted solar thermal it saves around 17% of my energy bill I've also just fitted underfloor heating that saves around 40% on my heating (I double insulated the floor which is why its so big)
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  776. Blair / Brown +25% on average wages services that work Cameron /May -3% on average wages Johnson Truss Sunak -?? services that are run down to the bone and are on life support The tax-to-GDP ratio in the United Kingdom has increased from 32.7% in 2000 to 33.5% in 2021 So stfu about Labour's economic record it kicks the Tories record into the stone age the Tories couldn't run a charity stall without fkin it up we have lower living standards higher taxes and failing utilities and services 57% energy inflation & 16.5 food inflation
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  777.  @T5Zplayer  no its not its 13 years of Austerity the 2015 tax cuts and Cameron + Osbourne going all in on the gig economy with zero regulation on companies that paid no UK tax and created millions of zero hour low paid jobs which uk workers wouldn't do so migrant labour from the EU came in for the work. Imigration doesn't occur because we're good old Blighty it happens because there is work here I could bitch all day about Blair / Brown but there a million times better than what we've had for 13 years
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  778. I'm alive because of it so you can stick your anti vax nonsense
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  779. The reason we have high immigration is Right wing Economic policy which doesn't invest in domestic workforce creating a skills gap that has to be plugged by immigration. If its not the economy keeps spiralling down the pan Anyone promising low tax and no immigration is lying
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  780.  @spazzymacgee5648  they'll finish off what Thatcher started and sell everything off including pensions
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  781. Leaving the EU means we no longer cooperate with our partners and allies to solve common problems which is why this has ballooned and Loosing FOM has tripled legal migration
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  782. They can't they won the election on the biggest sack of lies you'v ever seen and are incompetent
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  783. There was an easy way of dealing with it its called a wealth tax given the 700 billion had trickled up the economy as rich people didn't spend anything for a year and a half
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  784.  @dragonfly6908  what's your point?
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  785.  @vevey75  That's because we have a privatised system who's retail price is tied to the spot price of gas. Its a public monopoly that will make 170 billion in excess profits with the aid of the government. Its a rigged market for the benefit of the investors Privatise the profits socialise the losses
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  786. why would that happen if their economic policies do the opposite?
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  787. Taxes for the average and low paid will go down just like they did last time under Blair / Brown Tax breaks for the wealthy get shut down You currently have thresholds frozen till 2028 so Sunak can pay for his Trickle down cr@p
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  788. why we've had 14 years of Con incompetence the economy is on it's knees
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  789. Yes Tice needs to read up on economic Trade Gravity And also realise that a huge % of trade is from SME'S who don't have the capability to trade other than locally
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  790. How dumb are these people? The protocol is happening and it's too late to do anything about it, NI businesses have either rerouted or are in the process of rerouting their supply chains. Goods that used GB as a land bridge from th EU are going direct from Cherburg to Ireland because FOM frictionless trade and cabotage beats xenophobic right wing nonsense every time
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  791. that's world traded commodities like fossil for you go renewable and control your own destiny
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  792. There's a 10% shortage if you don't give them a decent rise that number will increase with yet more countless billions pissed up the wall on agency and supply staff
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  793. He's offering something for people from the centre left to the centre right If you want to waste your vote on a bunch of far right populist grifters go ahead. It's not like we can't see the consequences after 4 years of the current far right set of griffeters that are in power now
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  794. All the benefits of a social society with none of the responsibilities, just go live on an island
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  795. The citizens want this plan canned and the money used to repair RAAC
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  796. no one else is leaving the EU listen to real news not propaganda. The economic hit to this country in leaving is around 1 trillion since 2016. @facts9538 
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  797. IMF recomended one back in 2021 because the 700 billion the Tories put into the economy over Covid trickled up Millionaire and Billionaire wealth doubled. The only way you'll deal with the deficit is by pulling that money from the rich, Sunak's current Trickle down plan will erase the middle class
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  798.  @brianwalker2696  Crime hasn't gone down its gone up Removing Fraud from the stats just means your comparing apples with concrete You can also fiddle the long term trends by comparing an individual statistic like burglary with the same period during lockdown. And lastly you measure per 100k of the population If you look at long term trends then crime rose steeply at the end of the Major Government before falling dramatically with the additional resources allocated by a Labour Government then has slowly ramped up from 2014 the simple reason is under Conservatives services are cut to the bone. You can't be tough on crime if you defund the police justice system prisons and councils You can look at conviction rates from 2013 they've slowly gone down with a sharp spike due to covid and all sorts of people getting fined then a dramatic fall in 2022 Defunding the system has cost the public money in the tens of billions in lost GDP since the lows of 2013/14 Additional crime and it being unsolved has a huge economic cost.
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  799. 2 men too stupid to know it was a gimmick in the 1st place you mean
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  800. Tax cuts don't grow the economy and trickle down doesn't work, we have 50+ years of economic data to back this up. Your also living in a trickle down low tax (for the wealthy and corporations) economy how do you like it?
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  801. ​@justinengland9814 the guy is obviously a billionaire either that or a complete Mug
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  802.  @justinengland9814  It has everything to do with his agenda which is acquiring more wealth and power to accumulate more wealth and power. His sole reason for supporting Trump is money
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  803.  @SuperSky9  If he lives that long he's taking far too many drugs for someone on the spectrum and is completely addicted to social media.
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  804.  @SuperSky9  Works is a stretch, he's managed to cut twitters value by 75% He's planning Austerity on steroids and we know what Austerity does don't we children Stagnates and shrinks the economy
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  805. Let them work get them processed so 40,000 can be deported Our economy is on its knees because of right wing economic policies and burning through 3-4 billion because I dunno a migrant purity test is fkin insane f you want to shut down the black economy you need regulations, ID Cards and staff to enforce it This is Tory Brexit Britain invest in nothing regulate fk all and push cash to your donors and mates and don't think Tice would do any better he won't
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  806.  @jjefferyworboys8138  its deliberately complex there are a number of economics papers on the topic but the general consensus among them is its unsustainable The Taxpayers Alliance and the IEA disagree which is where Truss comes in and these insane tax giveaways are born
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  807. The reason the economy is going down the toilet is Austerity +Thatcherism x Brexit Removing regulations increases paperwork and red tape to ALL Markets outside the UK making UK companies noncompetitive Low Tax = no investment in UK population = mass immigration to plug skills gaps so what's that Reform are going to what make it worse by removing yet more regulations? Standardisation = Free flow of Trade Diversion = buckets of red tape paperwork and additional costs TO ALL MARKETS
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  808. In terms of rock throwing you get it from the Cons non stop against Labour there still blaming them for the state of the economy 13 years on The usuals serving your Union Paymasters (which is a Lie) Sunak has pulled the Corbyn lever no end of times (he's been kicked out) I'm not sure why they've done this maybe its to Troll stations like this anyway the reason the Cons are so shit at Law and order is they've defunded the police courts and the councils
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  809. just installed underfloor in my house it was built in 1935 albeit as part of a major refurb and extension. the overriding benefit is from double insulating walls and floors and fitting A+ windows. Didn't bother with a heat pump but did instal thermal solar, heating has been off since around April and hot water has been free most of that period  @keithhissey5173 
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  810. I'd get medical help @xavierayayaell546 
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  811. You a multi millionaire ? wealth taxes do what they say on the tin tax the wealthy and no Labour won't do it it's been proved ineffective
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  812. Wot like Nige the guy that said brex1t would be the land of milk and honey instead its a cratering our economy and record immigration
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  813. @pjj177  what are you on about the Tory policy flop yet another failure as fossil poure money into Conservative donations? Quote What is the record low price for UK offshore wind is nine times cheaper than gas? The projects are all due to start operating within the next five years up to 2026/27 and have agreed to generate electricity for an average price of £48 per megawatt hour (MWh) in today's money. This is nine times cheaper than the £446/MWh current cost of running gas-fired power stations.8 Jul 2022 This is from its peak but gas is never going to be cheaper than renewables they reached parity in 2019
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  814.  @andrewjmp3494  we've been making electric vehicles since cars were invented (ex milk floats golf buggy) there's around 40 moving parts in them compared to the 4,000 in an ICE vehicle issue was always battery tech and cheap petrol Petrol isn't ever going to fall significantly and battery prices keep coming down with new technologies coming online al the time Quote “The energy and transport revolution continues,” energy analyst Gerard Reid wrote. “Lithium battery cell prices are now below $100 per kWh, down 80 per cent in a decade. Going forward we will see even lower costs and better performance, which is why the death of the internal combustion engine is near
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  815. So spending 8 billion on a bankers tax cut is better than funding NHS pay? or spending 4 billion on a millionaire pensioner tax break is better than repairing RAAC in schools? Give your head a wobble @gillycooper8717 
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  816. why don't you like human rights?
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  817.  @ifindoubtbailout70  and who would like that be? Its certainly not reform who are a party started by the elites for the elites and promoted by the Billionaire class
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  818.  @ifindoubtbailout70  That change doesn't involve Reform who are just another band of Elites wanting to prop up the fossil industry and the Billionaire club.
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  819. Net zero will reduce the cost of energy and remove our de0endence on natural gas
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  820.  @FredHousehold  So many fossil lobby talking points making so little sense
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  821. ​ @jamestaylor7042 the carpet baggers that sold you the economic train wreck that is Brexit It's even increased immigration and from non white countries irony truly is not dead Delusional
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  822. you already pay tax as a pensioner
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  823. If your voting for your children's future you wouldn't touch a right wing party with a barge pole The Tories have tripled University fees removed bursaries for Nurses and slashed Doctor training places all leading to higher legal migration
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  824.  @xsentfromuk8938  reform certainly don't they represent the Billionaire class that fund them and provide a free mouthpiece and propaganda outlet in GBNews
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  825. With what Libertarian policies that favour the ultra wealthy get real
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  826. No one but the gulible wants fracking a privatised NHS or yet more water pollution
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  827. 58% voted centre to left of centre you are in the minority, these thugs will get the book thrown at them and quite right
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  828. It was always going to be an economic car crash because the people implementing it did so for political gain no one in their right mind would leave the single market were currently at -6% GDP or in lost tax that's 50 Billion, that 50 billion could take your tax threshold at 20% to 15000
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  829. Johnson is no different now than when he was campaigning for Brexit or when he was Mayor or when he campaigned to be leader. The guy is a fantasist and a lier who will say and do anything to further his aims, Johnson's government have achieved nothing because its all about the Johnson show and surviving the next days news cycle. What's worse than the lying is the sheer incompetence and laziness of the guy and he's surrounded himself with the dregs of the Con party there's what a couple of ministers you'd say are competent the rest you wouldn't pay in rubber washers.
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  830. Problem is people like you don't bother to look there's plenty of difference and there's a Lib-Dem and Green party too
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  831. The Tories are already borrowing 130 billion a year to subsidie thier tax cut agenda We need to spend 40 billion a year to fetch the burgeoning energy bills down in 2020 energy spend was 30 billion in 2023 it will be 170 billion Consumers can't afford the ongoing cost of being tied to GAS
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  832. This debacle is on you and your VOTE 50 years in the making the ultimate ar5e end of Thatcherism Energy bills tripled Trains that don't run raw sewage in the rivers housing shortage Even the Horizon scandal is Thatcher and the Con's fault Outsourcing everything at cheapest price screw quality or accountability
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  833. cooperating with the people who run the border on the other side reclassifying people smugglers in the same light as organised crime and seizing their assets plus getting rid of the backlog that's costing us 8 billion Words fail me in how to describe how bad your idea is
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  834. If you had a net zero grid your bills would drop by 75% Your paying for last mile gas
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  835. His policies are unobtainable when you campaign on lies you get Johnsoned Level up - never going to happen No tax increases - 19 and counting Guarantee triple lock - inflation at 8% pension uplift 3% We're all going to be better off - -3% drop in average earnings plus shrinking disposable income We're getting rid of red tape - brexit is a complete fkin mess with billions being spent by both government and businesses on red tape its not even a cottage industry its gone full industrial
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  836. The French don't hate us Boris is being a complete Dick about everything EU so he can play polotics - look over there the EU hates us while he makes a complete bollox of running the country
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  837. we left with a hard Brexit the economic fall out from that is -5.5% GDP resulting in 44 billion reduction in tax receipts to the Treasury 10 billion in additional costs of red tape and paperwork per annum Broken on demand supply chain no major investment in the UK since 2016 if you don't believe me look at the decline in car manufacturing Further disruption promised with the retain EU laws bill which would add 85 billion in business costs over 10 years Benefits Raw sewage in our rivers and sea as we don't have to comply with the water safety standards anymore
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  838. Tories only care about power I'm looking forward to a labour government they finnaly seem to have got thier act together
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  839. Shaun Bailey your having a laugh a rich elite that doesn't give a fk about poor people same as every Tory
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  840. she's should be in UKIP or BNP, not a Conservative bone in her body
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  841. How much do they have to steal from the working people to pay for tax breaks for the wealthy and how bad do the services have to be to be a true conservative?
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  842. Maybe they can read Reforms manifesto why would anyone believe or support the rubbish in it
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  843. Renewable energy is cheaper, the current price of electric is set by the most expensive which is gas onshore wind at the peak was over x14 cheaper The energy market in the UK will make 170 billion in excess profits over the next 2 years due to this model the treasury is giving away 10s of billions in tax breaks to fossil Stop spouting off and repeating lies you pick up from uneducated idiots about Renewable energy
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  844.  @duran5706  good negotiator? Since when trade deals worth zero gdp the latest selling out our farmers, just call her Roll over Truss
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  845.  @duran5706  this is a disaster for brexit! How so brexit is a complete screw up Frost was never going to get anywhere neither is Truss the Cons are going to have to stick to a deal they brokered signed and voted for, it may be garbage but its a shit heap of their own making
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  846. Your trying to force an economy with it's supply chain embeded into Europe out as if there are no consequences and it will happen as if by magic Our taxes rose in parallel with leaving the EU Our Immigration rose in parralel with leaving the EU and Our manufacturing is collapsing Port Talbot and Now Luton Yet you sit there pontificate and take zero responsibility, you won get over it accept the consequences of your actions stop blaming others
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  847.  @danceteachermom  What you mean his job and getting them processed and deported in double quick time? The US is taking the same amount of refugees in annually as its always done over the last couple of decades, just because he's not wasting millions of dollars holding them in privately run detention camps your complaining?
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  848. Is not an invasion and its multiplied exponentially because you voted for Brexit so we now no longer have a shared responsibility with 27 other nations
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  849. Applies to anyone with a salary of 32k - 55k Everyone else + pensioners has a tax hike due to fiscal drag - for example 12250 should be 15000 So a pensioner with a small additional pension will see a tax rise of £540 the national average is 18k so an additional 3% off not much goes to the government
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  850. So what policies do you want if you don't mind me asking? I've been doing a load of research on policy my interest is in Economics and also renewable energy A faster move to Net Zero will reduce energy prices considerably by taking us away from Oil and Gas price volatility + If your interested in the True economic picture there's a Paper at the "Resolution Foundation" on "Ending Stagnation" Underpinning both of these is serious wholesale planning reform @El.Cid17 
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  851. She's not pro brexit We have the shitshw the Conservatives created someone has to fix the economy they've completely buggered
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  852. since when did having 20k pa net disposable income to fritter away on private education become the purview of the middle class? It's like IHT only applies to the top 5%
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  853. Its hot air coming out of Johnson's arse, all the property is privately owned the government would have to pony up full price for it and do a compulsory purchase order. It would literally cost several fortunes
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  854. Why would Labour be a disaster? Would they spend that 500 million wasted on Rwanda fixing RAAC? god forbid we repair our crumbling infrastructure how will the elite survive without their tax cuts?
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  855. what's wrong with spending on public services rather than say on the recent 8 billion bankers tax break 4 billion for millionaire pensioners and additional 6 billion for fossil fuel companies? that 18 billion is just wasted gone out of the economy?
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  856. its normal or why would Lord Frost be a lord or be given a cabinet post
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  857. The only way to get the economy going is social and structural investment not tax cuts, there's 10% cuts baked into the budget for services which will further shrink the economy, Thatcherism is a broken record
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  858.  @grumpyoldveteran7286  the economic ones are the same failed tierd neoliberalism that the Right have spouted for nearly 4 decades. They make the rich richer and fk over everyone else.
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  859.  @grumpyoldveteran7286  low tax low regulatory framework (trickle down supply side) It's had 40+ years of analysis it doesn't work the push for low taxes ends up as low taxes for the wealthy and corporations and high taxes for everyone else (to compensate high purchase taxes (vat), health insurance needs to be high) this also feeds high asset values (housing which start to bleed the life out of renters). Low regulatory framework is just code for shyte in the rivers zero hour contracts bans on collective bargaining removing paid leave etc. Welcome to fire and rehire nirvana voting reform is like Turkeys voting for Xmas
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  860.  @grumpyoldveteran7286  yours and my standard of living has gone up but since 2010 living standards are declining Thatcher +18% rise in average wages Baire / Brown +25% Cameron /May -3% Johnson / Truss / Sunak -?? Thatchers tax cuts where built on asset stripping Utilities and Oil revenues, the Blaire/Brown economy had a bit of left over oil money but had genuine growth the Cameron era economy was crippled with Austerity and further killed with tax cuts, 2010 debt to gdp was 62% by 2019 it was 92% currently its over 100 which is debt of over 2.7 trillion. The low tax model that Thatcher managed and these right wing thinkers such as Tice aspire too could only be done once, the utilities can only be sold once, the council houses can only be given away once the economy rewired to remove heavy industry to a supply side model again once. Supply Side low corporation tax is a 1 trick pony it never worked as the advocates of it push The other economy killer is Brexit from 2016 investment in the UK has fallen off a cliff and that cliff has gotten steeper since 2020, businesses don't like uncertainty and they hate trade barriers. The other major factor is an aging population the numbers of people in work now is less than 2019 the UK lost over 1 million workers who either went back or emigrated to the EU in 2020. So Reform the Conservatives or any other party telling you that they can magically grow the economy and reduce taxes while improving services are lying out of every orifice in their body. I bought my house a 3 bed semi in a posh area of the North in 84 it cost 3x my salary to do so today would be at least 10x what's more rent on a 2 bed semi would be near 100% of my take home pay because as a graduate with loan repayments which are another form of tax make it impossible to save anything. So here is a stark figure which highlights the UK's spiralling decline in 2016 our GDP was 90% of Germany today its 70%
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  861. He's centre right
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  862. Great Biden is the Best US President they've had in decades over 2 trillion in investment planned over 10 years 800,000 manufacturing jobs reshored already
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  863. Why do you even care? It's a gimmick to divert your attention away from the fact people on average are poorer now than in 2006
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  864. ​ @lindark28 there's only around 13 million left, pensioners voted 70-30 in favour Brex1t is dead anyway migration Tripled, economy tanking sky high food inflation
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  865. ​ @bedandbreakfastman11 Removing FOM is why migration Tripled 50% of the visas are for dependents due to us shopping for cheap labour in the 3rd world If you want lower migration train your domestic workforce, pay the going rate in public services and stop outsourcing and regulation on labour such as removing low payed zero hour.
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  866. Yea but that would mean investing in social and physical infrastructure, levelling up the north and building an east west rail link as promised with the Northern powerhouse instead we got a high speed link to nowhere everything else cancelled and more Austerity.
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  867. at least Labour will process the applicants saving 3.5 billion at the end of the day its 62,000 per year we have a population of 70 million so its like why all the fuss@@mleh-qx8mo
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  868. @mleh-qx8mo  62,000 not being used as a political football working in the economy generating tax revenue not draining 3.5 billion because the party in charge won't live up to thier obligations under the UN refugees charter. What's your problem you voted for Brexit and workers from India and Nigeria what's your beef
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  869. renewables are 2.5 times cheaper on forward contract price than their nearest rival Nuclear and the government are giving over 100 billion in subsidies to the fossil industry so how does not going with renewable seem like a good idea given their so much cheaper? Are you afraid all those Oil execs won't get their bonus?
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  870. What's changed with Johnson he's lied broke the rules and couldn't give a stuff about it, its standard Johnson he lives in his own personal reality. The guy is a shambles and the government lurches from one chaotic episode to another
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  871. ​ @S-North we've had a fiscally hard right government for the last 13 years Thatcherism on steroids boosted by Austerity Not a leftist policy in sight and your blaming who exactly?
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  872. She was sacked because the Tories lost another 2 points in the polls last week down to 23% and Labour gained 3 to 47% Cameron is in to try stem the bleeding to the Lib-Dems in the Blue wall
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  873. ​the current talk in EU countries is 30,000 our totals have more than doubled since Brexit last year it was 80,000 So 30,000 + say 20,000 more sounds a good deal to me As this year its going to be near the 100,000 It's a better offer than what InActionMan is proposing housing migrants indefinitely at a current cost of 8 billiona year and escalating
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  874.  @redacted629  electric car fires are a fraction of a percentage on ICE ones
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  875. They run supply side trickle down economics (aka Thatcherism) it needs an endless Supply Side pool of cheap Labour to make it even stand still in economic terms.
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  876. How's make america garbage again going?
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  877. If the world switches to renewables it will save trillions of dollars as well as reduce polution across the globe. There are numerous studies out there as wind and solar have been the cheapest on the grid since 2019 We spend huge sums subsidising fossil extraction and even more on environmental clean up Also 40% of shipping is dedicated to moving fossil fuel around
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  878.  @yorkshiremgtow1773  That is incorrect at the end of the Major Term debt to GDP was 45% during the Blair Brown period it dropped to 40% before reaching 62% saving the Financial system in 2010. Since then the Tories have never balanced the books borrowing 1.6 trillion and sending Debt to GDP up to 100% while adding +8 million to the population.
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  879.  @yorkshiremgtow1773  Your looking at borrowing as an absolute figure Blair / Brown grew the economy by the largest margin of any administration. Which the Tories have spent 14 years trashing with their ideology of small state & Tax Cuts
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  880. The lie about Starmer was started and promoted by Patriotic Alternative (PA) is a British far-right white nationalist group which states that it has active branches nationwide. Throw gasoline on that fire and it was almost guaranteed to blow up the fact that it has done so so quickly shows how corrupted and toxic the Tory alliance with UKIP and BNP voters to get Brexit done has become.
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  881. Another scare story from a Tory shill The Billionaires channel shows its true colours
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  882. he'll be the 1st and only
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  883. of which its estimated 2.3 million have passed away On demographic changes alone if there was a vote tomorrow it would be 55% remain The longer this goes on the further away from reality we seem to get @petergaskin1811 
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  884. why there giving them 100's billions in tax breaks to do it it then it goes on the world commodity markets we get fk all benefit the UK energy sector is fleecing us for 170 billion over the current crisis because where tied to Gas prices for generation If we invest in renewables its cheaper and stays in the UK under the control of the UK
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  885. It's a drop in the ocean at 62,000 a year concentrate on important stuff
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  886. @firstknight6057  no it won't the dependents are so high because of Brexit if you take more European workers its a lot more flexible + they've said they would abolished the -20% pay to foreign workers And Thatcherism is the ultimate driver of supply side Labour
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  887. Yea he could sign another deal then whinge about it ad nauseam he tweeted out Kwerteng's budget was great about as much political acumen as a wet lettuce
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  888. Going Net zero Costs 6% GDP Not going Net Zero costs 13% GDP Why can't we afford to save 7% GDP?
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  889. Net Zero reduces Energy costs by switching away from GAS Energy costs 2020 to UK consumers 30 Billion Energy costs 2023 to UK consumers 170 Billion I make that 140 Billion reasons to go renewable don't you? That 140 billion comes out of Consumers pockets the estimated cost of net zero implementation is 40 Billion a Year a net saving overall
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  890. Unless your one of the 4% richest people in the country WTF you wanting handouts Again WE NEED OUR TAX CUTS school fees will skyrocket under Labour
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  891. @Jozztime  it was irony 4% pay IHT the bulk of whom have enough money and send thier kids to private school
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  892. no it doesn't he may poll well in GOP primaries but that's 30% of the public Trump is in hot water there's 19 other cases against him Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3) Tax evasion, money laundering, rape, inciting a riot, treason, theft it's quite a collection
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  893. There's no public mandate for wrecking the UK economy by blitzing 4,000 laws with zero parliamentary scrutiny If they need repealing then each one needs debating and rewriting you've 50+ years of UK statute to sift through
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  894. ​ @ukmachloop yes I do
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  895.  @miniaturepainter8805  600 acres isn't small
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  896. We don't own the energy that's mined in our jurisdiction and will see no benefit to the customer it all gets traded on the world commodity market all the government do is sell leases. The so called green tax are just purchase taxes geared to incentivise the use of non fossil energy and the current cost per gigawatt hour on the market is £200 the contract price for Dogger Bank wind farm is £40 per gigawatt hour so if we had more wind and less gas the electric cost could be at least halved.
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  897. ​@YoLo-bb2vc impressed by reform? Fantasy Libertarian economics coupled with lala land imigration policy are you serious? These are the people that sold you the pup that Brexit is with its billions in lost gdp
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  898. I think Biden's great hes not anti UK just has no time for the bumbling muppets the Cons keep putting into power. They should copy what he's done to reinvigorate the US economy and fetch inflation right down
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  899. @keithmarshall8796  the one responsible for the points based migration system which has doubled the number of dependents coming in and is shipping in people from the 3rd world at below market rate to depress service sector salaries? You mean the that takes back control and let supply side freemaketeers rip with global Britain and unregulated migration?
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  900. @HPugwash  services are at breaking point because of Austerity back in 2010 Osborne cut funding for health sector training and we have depressed wages of around 25%. The ones that do qualify are leaving the country to be replaced with cheap foreign labour on top of the shortfall. Migration is a consequence of economic policy If you want lower invest in the social and physical infrastructure and regulate plus appropriate taxation
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  901. @andyquelch5754  no I don't agree with the levels of migration. If you want lower migration regulate and invest the Tory fantasy that you can have a low tax low regulation economy and have sustainable levels of both inward and outward migration are that a complete fantasy. Example - non regulation of Zero Hour and the gig economy lead to millions coming here employed by offshore multinationals undercutting domestic businesses shovelling money Out of the economy in offshoring profits. Zero hour and Uber are banned in Norway for example where the labour market is highly regulated
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  902. @andyquelch5754  move on, the Tories privatised water which is going to cost around 100 billion when they start going bankrupt and right to buy is costing councils 20 billion in housing support and 20 billion in lost rent. I agree PFI was a mistake but it wasn't terminated till 2018, 8 years into the current bought of Tory mismanagement. It was also a Thatcher era legacy to get elected Blair swung right over to the centre, and the economic consensus at the time was that the Thatcherism, Reganomics worked breaking the post war Keynsian model From 2012 economists have been making ever louder noises that far from working its lead to the economic malaise were in today. Reeve in her Mais speech said as much. So our choice is stick with a failing economic model based on a unique period in our history with massive oil revenues or move to a more Keynsian managed economy
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  903. @smashcan1  cost per person is around £3,000 pp and should be increased with population size and inflation I'm not disagreeing with you but it's totally incompatible with a low reg low tax supply side tricle down economic model.
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  904. @andyquelch5754  I put a full reply to this but it seems to have gotten auto deleted But it would appear we broadly agree that a more centre left approach and a managed economy advocated by Reeve is the way forward over the Tories endless outsourcing.
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  905. He used campaign funds screwing a porn star isn't a claimable expense
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  906. Privatised rail system is a complete and utter mess You've bosses and shareholders racking in millions part of it is even owned by the Italian government a dysfunctional fragmented network At this point you'd have to agree with the Ryan Air boss the Torys couldn't even run a sweet shop there a disgrace
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  907. You need the migration if you run Supply Side Trickle Down Economics aka Thatcherism If you want to cut immigration you shouldn't vote for right wing parties there economic low tax low regulation model uses migrant labour to feed it - example Cameron's GIG economy fuelling immigration with zero hour low paid work, Osborne then spent the extra tax on lower corporation tax and they spent it on share buy backs To cut the need for migrant labour you need to change the economic model and invest in the UK and its workforce such as modern transport links free University Reform will be even worse than the Conservatives given they appear to be clueless on economics
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  908. we have a hard brexit which isn't working, the fundamental problem is that Johnson brexit is bankrupting the country and was always a political fudge to stop the Conservative party fracturing
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  909. Free market fundementalists have never got anything right responsibilie for the 2008 crash and the demise Inn US manufacturing in the. 2000's. Well come to disaster capitalism global Britain the Ecenomic wasteland to rival the US rust belt
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  910. Gulible to the end
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  911. so exactly what was wrong with the report? she did a job didn't even cover half of the impropriety and goings on if you want the full SP go listen to this podcast Partygate The Untold Story ITV News
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  912. there are 19 other cases in progress Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3)
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  913. People don't want a privatised NHS, Fracking and 100+ Billion in unfunded tax cuts given the Truss debacle
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  914.  @sunnyonion3461  So if me and others can switch to a high level of renewables at a personal level the Grid can't do it? Pull the other one once I install a battery and then buy an EV I can run my home standalone for 3/4 days without the grid Tesla owners in the US did it couple of years ago in the big Texas freeze the tech is getting mainstream Keep up and stop listening to fossil lobby gibberish that is at least 10 years out of date
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  915. What they may ban offshore Billionaires using an opinion station to promote Libertarian propaganda?
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  916. In breach of international law
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  917. The sheep are the anti vax peddlers people over in Asia have been regularly using masks against infection and smog
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  918.  @Doc959  You have 1 million + workers leave before the deadline the UK still doesn't have the same number of workers in the Economy as it did in 2019 so less people paying tax plus the economy is flatlining after 7 years of reduced investment as foreign companies abandoned Britain so taxes go and service standards go down to meet the shortfall. Get out of your bubble and into the real world Quote - economist How much poorer is UK after Brexit? Investment is 11% weaker and GDP is 5.5% smaller than it would have been, costing the economy £40 billion ($48.4 billion) in tax revenues annually. Quote - Economist How Brexit affects investment in UK? Based on responses from businesses, they estimate that business investment was 23% lower than it would have been in 2020/21 due to Brexit. Are UK exports down since Brexit? Research by the Centre for Business Prosperity at Aston University has shown that UK exports to the EU fell by an average of 22.9% in the first 15 months after the introduction of the EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement, highlighting the continuing challenges that UK firms are facing
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  919. Sunak follows the same Libertarian supply side globalist economic policies that Reform pedal, they don't and haven't worked for the last 12 years and rebadging crap won't make them work now
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  920.  @SlimTortoise  my Dad came to the UK during the war and stayed I applied for and got Polish citizenship last year and my wife is eligible to stay in the EU beyond the 90 days as a spouse only proviso is she doesn't work. My son has dual nationality now as well and there are millions who I presume fit in this category. You just need an Irish passport and jobs done
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  921.  @SlimTortoise  Brexit is a force multiplier you put trade sanctions on a country everything gets more expensive due to the massive amounts of red tape and delays. We have a worse situation with HGV drivers because our ability to recruit is reduced and we've added additional travel times and costs to exports. Also our economy is built on immigrant workers at one point it was calculated 80% of hospitality staff in London were from the EU We have an ageing population a birth rate of 1.6 migration outwards of 50,000 per annum you need 400,000 extra workers just to stand still economically or your into contraction and stagflation.
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  922. Why can't it be achieved?
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  923.  @bobjames6622  Why do you base your opinion on ill informed pundits who know zero about the energy market Norway run 93% renewable we have a unique topography round the British isles that would naturally lead itself to tidal power that you can use as a base load. We are at the conjunction of competing weather systems east and west with multiple shallow off shore locations to site wind farms. We could use excess wind and tidal power to either export to Europe or crack hydrogen gas from water at a fraction of the current cost of natural gas, you can run a 20/80 mix on our current infrastructure reducing gas consumption by 1/5th. As more electric vehicles come onto the market you can use Vehicle to Grid Tech to smooth demand spikes offering discounts for off peak charging vastly reducing Gas peaker plants Tidal would be no more costly than Nuclear offshore wind is 2.5 times cheaper than nuclear and 7.5 times cheaper than current electricity spot price. Our current Wind mix is 17% our current renewable mix is 33% And lastly Octopus paid 45 million in windfall tax due to being renewable only last year Shell paid zero and Nest went out of business costing the taxpayer 6 million
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  924.  @iamrocketray  Yields are falling according to the US Agri department due to increasing drought conditions caused by climate change. We have large amounts of natural carbon decomposition what there talking about is reducing fossil use so we don't wrap ourselves in a carbon duvet and cook ourselves to death with the greenhouse effect. We are also melting both poles at an accelerated rate Please get better information preferably not from the fossil lobby or the millionaire billionaire class who see a move from Fossil as destroying their business model
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  925.  @paulpaintshop103  tidal - keep up
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  926.  @rafalwspin1  average household car does 142 miles a week average current battery has 250 range if your using 9kw gets some insulation and led light bulbs plus an efficient boiler plus thermal solar to heat your water
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  927.  @johnbrereton5229  where talking about food inflation if you have a market of 27 as opposed to a market of 1 Economically it will be harder hit by external and internal shocks which it will take longer to recover from The US is a market of 50 also Biden has made huge strides in decoupling the US economy from global shocks with a number of policies to reshore critical infrastructure jobs and pivot the US economy away from fossil to renewables The UK has done fk all about energy since the crisis began in dec 21 and has a deliberate policy of managed decline in food production Quote The UK is "sleepwalking" into a food supply crisis and the government must step in to help farmers, the National Farmers Union (NFU) has warned. Yields of tomatoes and other crops will likely slump to record lows this year, it said, with potential supply problems ahead as already seen with eggs
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  928. Settling strikes rather than have them cripple your local economy seems grown u to me
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  929. 58% of the electorate are voting for left wing parties and 20% are voting Tory which Nige has avowed to destroy and your complaining the audience is against him? for fks sake your looking at 15% only that believe his BS
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  930. They do its clear the backlog and deport around 40,000 legally that are just sat there because of Tory incompetence costing 3.5 billion
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  931. Cutting taxes doesn't increase growth the economic multiplier is around 0.2 You generate growth by social and structural investment we have 50 years of data on this
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  932. no we didn't we only voted to leave the EU and that was 7 years ago no one voted to leave the single market or FOM because if Johnson's deal had been put to the public it would have failed
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  933. The cost of ever increasing trickle down policies ex millionaire pensioner tax break in the last budget cost 2 billion you know give that 2 billion to student nurses they spend every penny of it in the economy give it to millionaire pensioners and it goes straight into assets with ZERO growth
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  934. Why would anyone vote reform? Nige doesn't have a clue every ukip policy the Tories tried turned to sh1t
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  935. @barbaraeastham9205  the 2 ukip policies and now reform the Tories implemented were a disaster Nige supported and still supports Trussanomics They want to privatise the NHS And deregulation is one of the key factors in high legal migration
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  936. what truth? Rwanda is just p1ssing money up the wall we need migrant labour because our ruling party runs supply side economics aka Thatcherism so needs Supply side Labour if you just cut it off without major internal investment which needs higher levels of tax you'll shrink the economy
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  937. There isn't even a charge if your vehicle meets emission standards which is post 2014/5 vehicle I'm an asthma sufferer this is the way to go most final mile delivery vehicles will be EV within 3-4 years The only real argument is when it's implemented as in giving people an extra year to comply
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  938. what green tax? There's around 80 billion in fossil subsidies in the system currently
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  939. no it doesn't you can't run the economy without migration its bad enough people were stupid enough to vote for Brexit making themselves poorer without totally collapsing the economy
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  940. Multiple reports show it helps companies bottom line by having fewer cases of discrimination within the workplace
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  941. For a start there are 180,000 in the system if you processed them all tomorrow that would mean 36,000 being deported and 144,000 not being propped up by the state for political purposes but allowed to work. Last year 80,000 people applied for asylum of which 80% will be granted 62,000 from a population of 68 million is not a lot All labour would do is do their job and get them processed and off state aid
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  942.  @seanhuds7351  62,000 a year for a country of 68 million is us being mean petty and small mined yet you won't even countenance that. You'd rather spend billions on being as cruel as possible with no real outcome of it even succeeding. I remember reading a story about the deep south when segregation was banned they used to have many public swimming pools when they where desegregated they closed them.
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  943. Yea whatever where not paying the mafia don of Russia so get a reality check
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  944. ​@phYT01 people are looking to leave because the Tories have driven the economy for many including professionals into the Toilet with sky high housing costs and depressed wages. Got ZERO to do with Asylum and migration If I was 10 years younger and not retired I'd be upping sticks and going to live near my brother in Norway, potholes everywhere fkin home Secretary that should be expelled from the Tory Party so she can join the National Front
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  945. What scare stories are those? your promoting a party that will give the biggest tax break to the wealthy in history by adding it to debt Did Truss teach you Nothing?
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  946.  @tofueatingwokerati2039  You don't grow the economy via low taxes, the only successful low tax economies are Petro States If you want to grow the economy you invest in good infrastructure educate your population to a high standard and keep them healthy all that costs money Reform nor the Con's can grow the economy because they refuse to address the problems in it
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  947.  @philly9872  They would be just as rubbish as the Con's, Tice talks utter economic drivel
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  948.  @philly9872  You already have the dregs of UKIP in the Tory party and you want more of that but with the Guff lord himself spouting off his nonsense. Farage said great budget all the economic acumen of a wet lettuce the guy talks utter bollox like Tice Like Boris at least Truss believed the crap she was spouting and tried to enact it instead of claiming to have a magic potion that would cure everything
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  949.  @philly9872  remainers don't exist we left the EU years ago get used to it
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  950. Right wing populism in Boris or left wing populism in Corbyn they were both out of touch elites in Johnson's case he got to burn his party to the ground making them unelectable for at least a decade. Both promising simple solutions and turning back the clock to a time that didn't exist to highly complex structural problems with the UK economy. I'm no Beer Korma fan but at least he's electable @zenex1741 
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  951. Delusional? Labour have a 20 point lead moving to the centre
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  952. Wind is over half the price of fossil per megawatt hour go look up Dogger bank wind farm I'd add that fracking would take over 10 years before you saw any benefit and given it caused earthquakes last time it's doomed before it starts
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  953. Business has had a enough of Farage's bollox about sovereignty He can fk off and eat all the turnips he wants and I'd suggest taking the one out of his backside 1st
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  954. That from poundland barbie And​ The current talk in EU countries is 30,000 our totals have more than doubled since Brexit last year it was 80,000 So 30,000 + say 20,000 more sounds a good deal to me As this year its going to be near the 100,000 It's a better offer than what InActionMan is proposing housing migrants indefinitely at a current cost of 8 billiona year and escalating
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  955. Rory Stewart
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  956.  @bobomb1986  Stewart gave honest answers in the leadership debate Jonson Gove etc. Lied thier faces off And theirs no such thing as a remainer we've left, it's a putrid tactic to demonise an opponent so you ignore their opinion and facts look at all the bleating by the Brexit hardcore oh we've a reminers Brexit the current economic car crash isn't our fault even though we've as hard a Brexit as you can get bar no deal. How much more fkin paperwork and red tape do these morons want to saddle business with?
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  957.  @robertreynolds2702  he's the muppet that brought you a border down the Irish Sea then his boss lied his face off claiming it didn't exist. It makes you realise how gulible to propaganda large parts of the population are.
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  958. That was Osborne I don't think the Lib-Dems had much choice They managed to get tax Thresholds lifted about their sole achievement which Sunak is busy eroding Austerity was a disaster as was the decision not to regulate the Zero Hour low wage GiG economy which saw around 1 million arrive in the UK brought in by OffShore companies, both fuelled the rise of UKIP and the Brexit vote. The whole 13 years has been one economic disaster after another
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  959. They've deported 10,000 illeagal migrants already more than the Tories did in the whole of 2023. It was a naff budget but they were left with a dysfunctional mess
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  960. @mikedon5205  UK Needs Immigration Points System says Nigel Farage UKIP Leader We have a points system and have lost FOM Immigration has more than trebbled because workers outside the EU fetch over thier families It's like watching an exercise in Stupidity
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  961. No there not there completely different. An excellent example is the NHS Labour are offering debt forgiveness to uk trained nurses and an overtime rate to clear the backlog Get an eye test your obviously colour blind
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  962.  @bernardedwards8461  reform are Lettuce Liz economics with fantasy imigration policy Anywhere near power and they'd make Kwasi's budget fallout look like a practice run
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  963. No he's not were dying under a mountain of export paperwork removing standards will just introduce more paperwork countries don't want cheap unregulated crap and you have to fill in the docs to prove it
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  964.  @loksterization  I've written to my MP a lot about tax havens and money Laundering Panama Papers Russia Report Freeports (havens for people trafficking money laundering and smuggling) Pandora Papers and now again about Russian money and influence in the Tory party
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  965.  @loksterization  all money laundering
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  966. There's around 80 billion in fossil subsidies in the tax code you have to get the money from somewhere
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  967. Stripping people's citizenship is mental full stop
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  968. Thatcherism has always driven imigration through cutting domestic investment
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  969.  @ArjunGhag-ix7te  There is no centre right Braverman is the same toxic hard right as Farage both clueless in being able to deal with real world problems The reason the Cons got such a kicking is they've spent 2 years with Rwanda chasing the nutter vote, none of Reform's policies stands up to even casual scrutiny
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  970. Habib and the rest of the Brexit Ultra's don't have a clue how international trade works and the importance of tariff free paperwork free red tape free VAT harmonised trade is appear to grasp that it's costing over 40 billions its costing in lost taxation alone and strangling small business growth who employ 60% of the UK workforce Our economy is swilling round the toilet bowl and your even seeing the effects of getting rid of FOM on increased permanent visa migration with over half dependants
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  971. The bulk of our Housing Crisis Water Crisis and out of control utility bills are as a direct result of Thatcherite policies, even the banking Crisis in 2008 had its roots in Thatcher era deregulation. The so called economic miracle was bought on the back of asset stripping and oil money wage deflation through carpet bombing heavy industry and leaving millions to rot. scroll to present day here is an example - The water companies have borrowed over 50 billion and paid out 57 billion in dividends the debt loading will see them go bankrupt if interest rates continue to climb so who do you think will pick up the bill?
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  972. Keep up it was proven to be a lie almost instantly
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  973. define woke you bunch of numpties
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  974. Why will it be worse under Labour? The current government are pissing 6 billion up a wall by not processing claims. That's at least 36,000 people who should already be deported
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  975. New South Wales Aus are 75-95 renewable should be fully in 5 years If the world switches to renewables it will save trillions of dollars as well as reduce polution across the globe. There are numerous studies out there as wind and solar have been the cheapest on the grid since 2019 We spend huge sums subsidising fossil extraction and even more on environmental clean up Also 40% of shipping is dedicated to moving fossil fuel around
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  976.  @franparish1599  what? My house will be 95% energy Indipendant in the next 4 years I'm just hanging on so battery prices come down which they will do in the next couple of years because of Sodium/Ion Your living in the dark ages listening to that fossil lobby Shyte
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  977.  @franparish1599  what like escalating electricity gas and petrol cost? I'm doing this as part of a refurbishment but that base cost will pay itself back in 7 years probably 4 if I get an EV I've already got thermal solar for hot water and that saves enough to pay itself back in 8 years. After that it's free power and hot water So why aren't new homes mandated to have this stuff given our energy dependence and need to get more out of the grid?
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  978.  @anthonymorris5084  I'm not Aus my bad its South Australia Quote The battery backup Elon Musk built to win a bet has saved South Australia tens of millions of dollars. The record-setting "battery" is made of Tesla PowerPacks and helps stabilize the local grid. Rural South Australia experiences bad blackouts each summer. More than two years after winning an electricity bet, Elon Musk’s resulting Australian solar and wind farm is an almost total success. The facility powers rural South Australia, whose population density falls between Wyoming and Alaska, the two least dense U.S. states.
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  979.  @anthonymorris5084  Wind and solar aren't subsidised in the UK not sure what your point is the latest Contract price for Dogger bank OffShore is 42p per kilowatt hour which was 12x + cheaper than the the Offgem Spot Price at its peak stage. Renewables became the cheapest form of energy on the grid in 2019 before the current energy crisis Current tech challenges holding it back is the Grid still doesn't have enough transfer capacity across Scotland down through the North East to the south the work is supposed to be ongoing but usual government delays all should be finished by 2029. The other issue is storage and Grid resilience There's already a Vehicle to Grid Software solution along with local area battery backup that's now running if your a Octopus customer. Look up "Powerloop: Vehicle-to-Grid Technology Balancing the grid with green energy by storing renewable power in electric cars." You've also got Hydrogen pilot over in the North East you can run a 80/20 mix on current infrastructure. Cutting natural gas consumption by 1/5th using green hydrogen is pretty seismic
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  980.  @rosemarywoolley8394  why they've been wearing them over in Asia for decades every time there's a health scare?
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  981. At the macroeconomic level average wages are down -7% since 2010 GDP is static with +11 million population meaning UK productivity has fallen off a cliff.
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  982. That stuff you can use for paying under the counter for black market illegal migerannt workers? Or use to. Buy elecit drugs so how much do you launder Nige??
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  983. Another scare story from a Tory shill The Billionaires channel shows its true colours
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  984. so your keen on loosing your human rights and having your kids indoctrinated are you what's he going to call it the Farage Youth?
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  985. Its not the people coming here for Jobs that are responsible for your declining living standards its government policies, always was always will be
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  986. Look they don't contribute to lower wages in the UK not in the way you think they do. We need a lot of low to medium skilled migrant workers we don't produce enough home grown our population is ageing and we have a low birth rate. You should have a high skilled home based workforce supplemented by migration at the bottom end. There is nothing stopping governments presiding over a higher wage economy Blair managed it with +25% average wage growth @rogerwoodhouse7945 
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  987. Why there just the same shit Libertarian supply side globalist economic policies Sunak pedals?
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  988. Popular with who? Those popularising sexual violence? Quote Donald Trump, the president of the United States from 2017 to 2021, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970's
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  989. the bulk of the inflation is supply side on inelastic goods eg energy the government not taxing the snot out of the expected 170 billion in Excess profits then pumping it back to consumers is a key driver then there's the self inflicted +6% on food because of Brexit
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  990.  @janethumphries3041  If you trade with the EU you have to follow EU rules and standards if you trade with the US you have to follow US trade rules and standards. We now have to follow EU rules and standards + third country rules and standards we are not big enough or powerful enough to set international standards that's the province of the EU US or China. What did you vote for by the way?
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  991.  @janethumphries3041  Why because he lied about Brexit and what's this patriot once great country? They sold you a crock of shit for empire 2.0 which romanticised a time that never existed with its closest approximation to pre WW1 gun boat diplomacy where we sent the navy out to steal other countries resources. That bubble was burst totally with the Suez canal debacle. We've essentially got the vaguest upgrade of WTO and you actually want to make trade worse?
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  992. It's propaganda not news owned by an offshore Libertarian billionaire
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  993. Tax cuts don't create growth its completely delusional thinking they do Osborne's corporate tax cut was spent on share buybacks increasing CEO pay in the bargain and went straight to increasing UK debt If you want to grow the economy you invest in physical and social infrastructure and get money into the pockets of the working and middle class Bottom up middle out scrapping Austerity and Trickle down policies
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  994.  @dogbreaththe3rd851  That's a crazy statement you'd need to taking drugs to believe that rubbish
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  995. Yea too many that's why we have 1.3 million vacancies
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  996. The reason he has to put up taxes is that Conservative governments couldn't run a sweet shop they are completely clueless on economics or looking beyond surviving another day Debt to GDP 2010 62% Debt to GDP 2019 92% Debt to GDP 2022 99.5% Its expected to rise in 2023 to 103% and the Current bunch of bandits intend to squeeze services to the very core in 2024 to try balance the books
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  997. Biggest voting block is the Athiest vote at 48% how about not fear mongering to your gibbering audience about 5% of the vote
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  998. A Party of rich elites peddling Thatcherism with a dose of populism for working people my a3se Same old Trickle down cr*p different wrapper
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  999. They receive funding from the fossil lobby who are afraid their business model will be broken coz who is going to vote for higher energy prices as renewables are cheaper
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  1000. tax base was stable for 2 decades at 33% till this current Parliament
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  1001. Net Zero reduces Energy costs by switching away from GAS Energy costs 2020 to UK consumers 30 Billion Energy costs 2023 to UK consumers 170 Billion I make that 140 Billion reasons to go renewable don't you? That 140 billion comes out of Consumers pockets the estimated cost of net zero implementation is 40 Billion a Year a net saving overall
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  1002. see my previous answer from Not the Fossil Lobby Renewable energy has been the cheapest on the grid since 2019 As an example of base cost Dogger Bank wind farm costs 11 billion to build Hinkley point C 33 Billion and Hinkley has 35 billion in running cost subsidies over 35 years Both have comparable outputs. Solar and wind infrastructure costs have fallen by 95% in the last decade @Celtictribes 
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  1003. Active price is set by the highest cost to produce on the market which is currently GAS. Peak demand is serviced by On-Standby Gas Power stations we've introduced a Tesla MegaPack facility in East Yorks to bring Grid smoothing to Dogger Bank when it comes online this removes a level of demand for On-Standby GAS. The Tesla MegaPack installations save insane amounts of money compared to cost @nothingtoseehere999 
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  1004. Batteries quote The Astonishing Economics of the Tesla Megapack By adding about 300 MW of storage, ERCOT will generate approximately $1 billion in savings in 2025. This is from a one time purchase of Megapacks for $750 million. These savings will also happen each additional year after 2025 - they are recurring! Quote Construction begins on world’s biggest liquid air battery The project near Manchester, UK, will use spare green energy to compress air into a liquid and store it. When demand is higher, the liquid air is released back into a gas, powering a turbine that puts the green energy back into the grid. Quote What Is a ‘Sand Battery’? A “sand battery” is a high temperature thermal energy storage that uses sand or sand-like materials as its storage medium. It stores energy in sand as heat. Its main purpose is to work as a high-power and high-capacity reservoir for excess wind and solar energy. The energy is stored as heat, which can be used to heat homes, or to provide hot steam and high temperature process heat to industries that are often fossil-fuel dependent.  @raytrevor1 
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  1005. Hughes has been banging on since the 2010's I just think he's unable to admit he's wrong by 2020 which was the point Wind reached parity with gas. I used to work for GEGB then National Power I'm well aware how grid smoothing works and the demand curve + base loading. When I was there the Peak Plants very rarely fired up if the Con artificial market has them supplying base demand the costs will go off the charts. As a rough guide we need 40% Base Load that can't be wind but currently we have MAX 17% wind and the Minimum seems to be around 10% in the renewable mix is also BioGas and Solar Battery Tech is also making great strides it should replace ALL Peak Plants otherwise the grid isn't configured right. Tidal is now as cost effective as Nuclear with an up front cost for a similar size as Hinkley coming in at 50 Billion with Hinkley's total cost at 75 and a possible lifetime = Dam's of around 70+ years it should also become cheaper the more we build. @iareid8255 
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  1006.  @iareid8255  Hughes may have had a point in 2010's he certainly doesn't by 2020 when Gas & Renewable hit price parity. I'm well aware we need 40% base load but we're only at 17% peak on wind and haven't invested squat in storage or the grid to move energy around the country
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  1007. And who's exactly making a profit after the last 12 years of god awful Tory government?
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  1008. Reform are repackaged Lettuce Liz fantasy Economics with Braverman's Fantasy immigration Both together no thanks the country is in a bad enough state as it is with right wing economic policy
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  1009. It's like working with your neighbours to solve common problems has real world benefits People said it would get worse if we left the EU and it was dismissed as project fear you reap what you sow
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  1010. @A***** A***** why do I care this is the hard Brexit shtshw in full flow My dad was a polish refugee in the war I've now got dual passport so basically you lot can own your own car crash for a change instead of blaming us EU citizens.
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  1011.  @jsemplefelton5348  I'm retired I have a large camper van spend most of the summer touring Europe and will be off back end of Feb for a month Skiing. Then in June am off to Norway to stay with my brother. Enjoy loosing your Freedom of Movement For Nothing.
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  1012.  @clivestraw1913  till their claim has been rejected they are not illegal The right wing media have a full scale onslaught to get refugees dehumanised they never want you to have any compassion for then so the constant drum beat is never ending there conditioning you in the same way Pavlov trained his dogs. 85% have a valid claim for asylum The reason they come by boat is we've shut down all other legal means to claim asylum and made the problem worse if you want to keep them on the other side of the channel then open an asylum application centre over there
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  1013.  @jsemplefelton5348  Rebel from what everyone has seen the economic car crash that is Brexit They have an arsey right wing government if Poland withdrew from the single market its economy would collapse completely based on the models from what's happened in the UK the estimate is a loss of 15% gdp there a lot more connected to surrounding economies than we are. It's also predicted that by 2036 they will be better off per head of population than the UK as our economy declines and thiers surges
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  1014. Tax cuts don't create growth its completely delusional thinking they do Osborne's corporate tax cut was spent on share buybacks increasing CEO pay in the bargain and went straight to increasing UK debt If you want to grow the economy you invest in physical and social infrastructure and get money into the pockets of the working and middle class Bottom up middle out scrapping Austerity and Trickle down policies
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  1015. Of course he should resign the story isn't over there is more to come staying as an MP just sprays more manure all over the Tory Party
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  1016. @richardgallagher4880  stayed where? There population has shrunk nominal gdp is a meaningless comparison As is our gdp we handed out 1.25 million visas
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  1017. There economic policies are just recycled right wing rubbish
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  1018. Supported by billionaire owned media Mugs the lot of you
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  1019. @tug1345  if you want to move away from the Trust system your going to have to invest 1st
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  1020. Welsh water have the best records on clean beaches and the Welsh NHS is same as England underfunded
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  1021. It pushes Billionaire libertarian tax policy it's pure propaganda
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  1022. government spending is subject to an economic multiplier in the case of the proposed tax cuts its around 0.2-0.3 which means for every £1 the Treasury looses in income it gains an average +25p through expanded demand and GDP growth If you look at Osborne's corporation tax cut UK debt to gdp rose by 10% during the 2016 - 2019 period they delivered nothing growth was stagnant 10% of gdp to debt in today's money is 313 billion The gilt people know these figures we have over 50 years of data on this stuff
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  1023.  @plugsocket9432  we've put up draconian trade barriers you muppet course its Brexit, the only country in the world to sanction itself
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  1024. He used campaign funds screwing a porn star isn't a claimable expense aside from that there are 19 other cases in progress Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3) Tax evasion, money laundering, rape, inciting a riot, treason, theft young Donald has been a busy boy
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  1025. She does a podcast called "The Trawl" Funny and satirical
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  1026. ​ @steveharrison4176 Fracking The destruction of large parts of the countryside to aide the fossil billionaire lobby
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  1027. If you look at Fiscal drag your taxes have rocketed since 2016 11,000 20% 2016 43,000 40% 12,570 20% 2023 50,270 40% 14,305 20% 2016 figures put into the BOE inflation calculator that is a staggering rise in tax at the lower end as that threshold includes NI 55,920 40% As for spending cuts, we need to spend more to get out of the 13 years of Stagnation we've been in caused by extremely poor economic and fiscal policy. Our GDP is pretty much the same as it was before the banking crash and GDP per Capita has gone right down with a big drop in real disposable income. That money needs to come from the Myriad of useless trickle down policies giving tax breaks left right and centre to corporations and the wealthy with ZERO return. As an example the Millionaire Pensioner tax break 2 billion then 8 Billion tax break in Banking levy plus 6 Billion in fossil subsidies in the last budget alone.  @MinkieWinkle 
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  1028. Rwanda policy is a dead cat Its just a multi million pound waste of money to feed to xenophobic masses who buy into the lie that migration is the cause of all our problems. Edward Mosley was banging this drum in the 1930's it wasn't true then and its not true now
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  1029. Your pension contribution is before NI and Tax is taken out if you opt out your paying 35% on that money
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  1030. Farmers need to grow more sustainable way
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  1031.  @susanmaxwell-q6q  I know about economics and planting and the fact modern farming destroys the ground leaving it lifeless. The system is unsustainable given the ever rising prices of fertilizer
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  1032. no it doesn't where in this mess because people have been pulled off processing asylum claims Braverman's magic thinking is make the situation soooo bad people will vote us in again its like hiring the Arsonist to come put out a fire they started
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  1033. This is embarrassing for the Republicans There just recycling the dead story about Barisma which was debunked as fake news during Trump's 1st impeachment Biden publicises his tax returns has done for 20 years Hunter is an ex crack head who used nepotism to boost his profile story ends
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  1034. You elect Liz Truss she goes for massive tax cuts and causes the BOE to have to inject 140 billion into the system through QE that money sloshes around gravitating up to the wealthy who spend it on swimming pools and helicopters but instead of cutting wealthy people's demand you get poor people to cut back through demand side interest rates. So quiz how many poor people have to turn off their electricity completely for the laws of supply and demand to allow Sunak to heat his swimming pool?
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  1035. Its the removal of a tax subsidy, we pay through taxation £6,000 per private pupil There are hundreds of these in the tax code for the wealthy
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  1036. Whys that then the worst economic record over the past 12 years in 150 and somehow every other party but this bunch of assclowns wouldn't be better? Take off the blue tinted glasses and stop making a fool of yourself by trying to excuse the worst government this country has ever had
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  1037. That's wrong I did some calculations a while back Hinkley C is costing 33 billion up front will be 3 years late taking over a decade to build and has 35 billion in subsidies built in over 35 years you could build a Tidal equivalent for 50 billion up front and a wind farm equivalent for 9 billion The wind farm and infrastructure could be built in 3 years (see Dogger Bank Offshore) and produces electricity 3 times cheaper than Hinkley would. A tidal system would last 50+ years at least @voodo0983 
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  1038. Is this satire? Even the Cons don't respect Rees Mogg
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  1039. The referendum was to leave the EU, the Conservatives decided to leave the Single Market which is killing trade especially small businesses Habib and the rest of the Brexit Ultra's don't have a clue how international trade works and the importance of tariff free paperwork free red tape free VAT harmonised trade is or appear to grasp that it's costing over 40 billions in lost taxation alone and strangling small business growth who employ 60% of the UK workforce
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  1040. Mogg believes in serfdom with the elite getting all the gravy
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  1041. CPI at 2% is temporary its a rolling total as months drop off then it will start to climb again Also CPIH is still at 2.8 cpi + Housing and owner occupiers OOH is still high at 6.7 Im sure they will find a way to blame labour for it going back up in June
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  1042. You really don't want the change they'd bring Thier policies mean a low paid economy with pollution everywhere from lack of investment & regulation, + they'd make the legal migration worse with more globalisation
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  1043. I'm looking forward to a decade of Labour bring it on can't wait They'll be plenty of reform in thier
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  1044. Ah the Foghorn of ignorance is back Haven't you people got sick of his BS or being conned yet?
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  1045. If the world switches to renewables it will save trillions of dollars as well as reduce polution across the globe. There are numerous studies out there as wind and solar have been the cheapest on the grid since 2019 We spend huge sums subsidising fossil extraction and even more on environmental clean up Also 40% of shipping is dedicated to moving fossil fuel around
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  1046.  @stephenconway2468 EU retain law bill? which its estimated will add 85 billion in costs to the already hammered businesses who are spending an arm and a leg on Johnson's hard Brexit as it is Its pearl clutching trying to get people to believe in an alternate reality
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  1047. @2aph0d_b33blebr0x that is soooo lazy we've left the EU because of you knukleheads somone is trying to make the best of a bad job and your still in lala land waiting for Brexit Jesus to make it all happen
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  1048.  @alanbrown4637  more than likely worse For a start no one but the clinically insane wants fracking it does nothing for local economies bar scar the landscape You can't cut taxes without gutting services the only 2 big ones left are the NHS and pensions and you can't grow the economy without investment If you deregulate you'll undermine home grown business and farmers sending them into bankruptcy flooding the market with low quality products and creating high unemployment as happened in the 80's The economy would become even more London centric
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  1049.  @stevec6427  true how about banning over 66 year old's because there senile spend too much time watching daytime tv and have no skin in the game anymore.
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  1050.  @luisbustamante9869  The anti vax propaganda on top of an extended period of stress can lead to mass psychosis you get a group think mentality. Look up the Flagellants of the Black Death era another group whipped into hysteria
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  1051. So if your a Tory voter and your enjoying the fruits of an extended period of Thatcherism why go for the extreme version Just put up with what you have instead of trying to make it worse for everyone else
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  1052. Replacing Sunak won't do anything, the current situation is the culmination of 14 years of bad policy and bad leadership When Cameron who I thought was one of the worst PM's we had looks 100 times better than the shower around him you've really got problems
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  1053. We have loads of land, there's a load of disused airfields near me and an abandoned bankrupt golf course
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  1054. 14 years of not balancing the books from the Tories with ever increasing jam tomorrow promises Debt in 2010 was 800 billion its now 2.4 trillion wtf does Holmes know about economics?
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  1055. Brexit is a complete economic disaster welcome to poverty
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  1056. The government failed to collect 42 billion in tax it was owed Like everything else the Tories were responsible for they've run down HMRC instead of boosting it to save money and ended up loosing it
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  1057. I'm a pensioner and I feel fine with the choice, this is all fallout from Sunak's unfunded NI cut to try bribe the middle class A Tory win would have seen the pension age rise to 68 to cover this and further cuts leaving pensioners high and dry
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  1058. what's taking a job got to do with an impartial investigation? She will have been head hunted for the appointment with a fairly heft salary increase in Labour's anticipation of being able to hit the ground running if they get elected Did she vomit on the carpet at no10 after an all nighter have an ABBA party get that rip roaring drunk that she broke a child's swing And why aren't you mad at Lord Frost taking a job with the Con party?
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  1059. It's because ther UK laws passed by parliment if you want to change them then you need to replace each of the 4000+ with your own specific version and debate in parliment why you want to change it. Ex work time directive Clean water act Etc
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  1060. I probably won't but that's because I vote tactically always against the Tories You do know this is nothing more than a scare story just the Billionaires channel showing its true colours trying to get you to vote Tory again
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  1061.  @Land-of-reason  Yes we have were a 3rd country with all the costs paperwork and Irish sea border that that entails
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  1062. What absolute bollox Putin, the Oligarchs, the Russian Mafia are all one and the same Hes nothing more than a kleptocrat running an oil state your trying to asign some wierd parydime to a Gangster
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  1063. the question is why don't you want cheaper energy? The true cost of fossil is in the hundreds of billions, energy from renewables are a fraction of the cost of our current system Everyone in the UK is paying 170 Billion in excess profits to the UK energy sector which is tied to the price of gas and 100+ billion in tax subsidies will be given to the fossil sector over the next few years. Tying ourselves to gas generation is insane
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  1064.  @Jezza_One  fracking is unviable without massive government subsidies and wouldn't reduce costs due to its expense. It also use 10 million gallons of water per well and has to move site every 3 years and the water is mixed with toxic chemicals leaving a pollution hazard to the water table. It cost 9 billion in infrastructure costs to build Dogger Bank wind farm which can produce 5% of uk domestic electricity needs is on time to come on stream this year. Hinkley C cost 33 billion + 30 Billion in subsidies over 35 years and produces 5% of UK domestic electricity and the energy it produces will cost x4 that of dogger bank and its 2 years late already. The Tories won't invest in Tidal because its regional and would be controlled by local authorities such as the swansea bay scheme boosting regional growth and doesn't have enough kickback to the big players
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  1065.  @stoicsceptic8420  The right want to keep the status quo there more than happy to screw the country for billions in excess profits. Renewable energy is cheaper there's no reason bar disinformation for not switching
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  1066.  @Jezza_One  why would you use coal at x 3 times thee cost? Even TEXAS The home of oil deploy more wind than us you want obviously don't want cheaper bills
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  1067.  @saltburner2  we have only 17% wind you need 40% base load giving you a large margin to expand current production, Danemark run at 40% Cost of Hinkley C is currently 33 billion + 30 billion over 35 years in subsidies + price tied to inflation. To build an equivalent tidal system its been estimated to have a capital cost of 50 billion once built its generation costs are maintenance + returning your 50 billion in capital outlay normally you could calculate at 35 years but Dam's last for decades which is the nearest comparison so your looking at 50 years minimum This is a one off project cost based on Swansea bay I could spreadsheet the numbers but the Nuclear will cost more by how much is hard to tell because the tidal system once built will get even cheaper with inflation built in and will last at least 15 years longer, the hoover dam was built in 1931 and its still generating today.
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  1068. Everyone else subsidies it because it benefits the economy overall, public transport reduces road traffic which in turn reduces maintenance and infrastructure costs and improves productivity
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  1069. yes and no the 140 billion pumped into the economy during the Truss debacle didn't help but we have a reliance on gas if we had more renewables + tidal and Nuclear we'd control our own energy supply but shell and BP own the NS fields so were screwed
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  1070. Why would anyone ever vote Conservative? They've asset stripped the country over 2 periods now accumulated more debt than every Labour government combined?
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  1071. Johnson's hard Brexit has removed us from a frictionless market, introducing trade friction increases cost explodes red tape introducing whole layers of extra people to do work that didn't exist pre Brexit which increases delivery times which makes a shortage problem into a crisis. In regard to hgv drivers the Cons have spent decades union bashing and collective bargaining and rights have been trampled all over, the roads are too full there's not enough lorry parks with cheap sanitary facilities and overnight parking. This is repeated up and down the whole economy an aging population with a declining birth rate whose economic growth has been sustained by migration, University entry is at an all time high but we have no fruit pickers. You lot of xenophobic idiots work it out for yourself
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  1072.  @gpw203  different one to you, if you knew what woke meant you'd be embarrased
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  1073.  @bimmeroo0906  The data isn't accurate before our exit millions of small traders could set up a website and post their product throughout Europe or be on Amazon or Ebay as well as SME's who employ millions of people in this country. It also affects goods in which we use in manufacturing as its destroyed the On-Demand supply chain. This has a number of affects the first is huge delays for firms getting product and as they have to carry lots more stock which decreases their competitiveness. There also faced with large costs on import/export from red tape and paperwork this doesn't go away if you export outside of Europe its just different red tape and paperwork. All that money has drained out of the economy and creating higher costs for goods in the UK which leads to higher taxes to plug the gap on lower company profits due to Brexit. Since the on demand supply chain is broken no large company will invest in the UK such as car manufacturing because of the Supply chain problem. If you want to grow the economy you need access to the market 20 miles away
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  1074. The Tories have always been appalling There's just nothing left now to steal and asset strip to bribe the voters with
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  1075. You actually believe this grifting Millionaire ex commodity trader man of the people?
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  1076. I don't think he understand how the Grid works and the presenters are just as clueless Bills are going up because of the cost of Standby Gas generation NZ replaces this with mass storage, until that's done were at the mercy of the commodity markets
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  1077.  @WhatDemocracy  fought
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  1078.  @WhatDemocracy  Echr was brought In post war by the UK as a bulwark against faascism
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  1079. @deanrogers8381  pandemic accounts for a 1 off hit of -2% gdp brex1t is currently running at -5.5% annually The energy crisis is self inflicted its a cost of electing Tories crisis Since 2016 1 trillion has been moved by banks to the EU in deposits alone brex1t is an economic dissaster of biblical proportions
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  1080.  @deanrogers8381  economists in th FT disagree as does Bloomberg Quote 12 Jan 2024 — Britain's departure from the European Union has cost its economy some £140 billion (€162.87 billion) so far, with an economic output of 6% less
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  1081. @deanrogers8381  worldwide? No one else has put trade sanctions on its own economy current estimates are 5.5 % gdp loss annually that = 50 billion a year in lost tax revenues. We borrowed 130 billion last year and have debt repayment of 120 billion with a shrinking economy
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  1082. @deanrogers8381  our gdp is 2.6 trillion £ your quoting dollars Gdp per capita shrunk for the 7th consecutive quarter why is that important? The standard of living is derived from per capita GDP, determined by dividing GDP by the number of people living in the country.
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  1083. @WhatDemocracy  he was part of the invasion force in Europe that defeated fascism Churchill was the key instigator of the ECHR post ww2 it was seen as a bulwark against the future rise of fascism. My father settled here after the war his family were refugees at its end in no small part thanks to the work of Churchill and other leaders.
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  1084. Why would you want MP'S affiliated with unions not to show solidarity, its more a sigh of strength that you can have a broad church appeal across multiple demographics
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  1085. Heres some common sense Trickle down economics doesn't work Cutting taxes and cutting services shrinks the economy it doesnt grow it
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  1086. Of the counties that voted for Biden contain 70% of the US gdp If your too stupid to understand that Republican economic policy screws you over time and again then keep with the irrelevant culture war distraction
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  1087.  @kristielynnkw  Conservatives run supply side trickle down economics everyone else run Kenysian Demand side Economics The 2 are radically different producing radically different economies.
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  1088. He's probably going to be in prison in Georgia by then, the Republicans need a real candidate
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  1089.  @Petal4822  freedom of movement, any leverage over trade damaging provisions in trade deals, the ability to lobby and block GM foods the list is pretty endless. We have minority rule which is determined to screw over thee majority
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  1090.  @uingaeoc3905  People in Poland support the EU 80% and thier authority over trade matters 70% the government is playing the usual right wing grievance polotics as it wishes to maintain power trying to divide the Polish people over lgbt rights making woman's right to full medical treatments and an abortion somehow political trying to create some form of Catholic Christian zeal. Poland is also becoming more cosmopolitan more European and us changing. Hungary is a failed state Orban and his party are corrupt, it's loosing population and becoming poorer by the year it has a severe brain drain due to the Anti intellectual stance of his government at some stage if Orban stays in charge it will be kicked out.
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  1091.  @uingaeoc3905  I've relatives in Poland younger people and the educated don't want anything to do with Duda's reactionary right wing shit he managed to scare a bunch of old crusties to vote for him by pedalling himself as the moral leader against a tide of liberalism. Pensioners don't create GDP and there dying off.
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  1092. It's a side issue to make you look the other way while they issue 1.25 million visas
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  1093. Starmer is targeting the smugglers not the smuggled cooperating with the people who run the border on the other side reclassifying people smugglers in the same light as organised crime and seizing their assets plus getting rid of the backlog that's costing us 8 billion The Tories offer is to shout a lot about the smuggled as if that will bring down the numbers hint it won't
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  1094. ​@martynblackburn9632 there even further to the right but according to this lot there not fachy enough
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  1095. Don't need to all they have to do is get on with net zero reducing UK energy spend and abort the tax threshold freeze to 2028 that Sunak has implemented to further the Conservatives trickle down agenda. @wallacewhybrow2705 
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  1096. a look at what a failure that's been
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  1097. There's around 100 billion black hole in their tax plans in fact non of their manifesto is remotely achievable bar stopping the move to energy independence. When you start looking behind who funds stuff on the right you walk straight into the billionaire fossil lobby
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  1098.  @joancooley1387  He just pedalled the same old shyte Trickle Down Supply Side Economics which has stagnated the economy over the last 13 years and any other Tory Leader will do the same
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  1099. The problem Is CON ideology when your answer to everything is cut tax small state your not really addressing the problem. If you want less nurses from Nigeria you invest in training UK nurses if that means free University course for them so be it.
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  1100. They are China deployed more renewable energy last year than the rest of the world put together
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  1101. No it isn't we have the prospect of 11% inflation embedded stagflation and a shrinking economy 12 years the Cons have been in power and 3 times wage growth has gone negative from 2010 to current its something like -8% in real wage growth and were into our second decade of stagnation
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  1102.  @ThePierre58  the Cons managed to blame thier crap economy on the EU they can't hide their utter incompetence on anyone anymore go look at the data
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  1103.  @ThePierre58  Inflation in France is half what it is here there economy is predicted to have 1.5-2% growth this year Our predicted growth is Zero, each point of GDP growth is worth 8 billion to the exchequer if we actually contract then tax revenues will decrease you have a predicted inflation of 11% and no plan to get the country out of the economic hole the Tories have dug. All Sunak can come up with is Austerity 2.0 which will crater living standards even further
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  1104.  @ThePierre58  Trump manager of the worst economic record since Hoover his 4 year record was appaling -3.6 gdp growth +6 million unemployed doubled the deficit and introduced a corporate tax cut that fueled borrowing and part of the current US inflation? Whatever your political affiliation the guy was an ecenomic disaster ran the country like his businesses on credit except bankruptcy isn't an option with a country when it collapses.
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  1105.  @ThePierre58  yea the models OBR LSE and IMF plus other economic publications and bodies
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  1106. A Party of rich elites peddling Thatcherism with a dose of populism Same old Trickle down Right wing cr*p different wrapper
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  1107. this crisis is 13 years in the making successive trickle down policies that have failed to restart the economy after the banking crash which has also led to 13 years of Austerity. There paying for Asylum applicants because they don't want to process them so that people like you get wound up and blame anyone but the Tories for their shtshw they've left the country in
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  1108.  @gpw203  what wage inflation? I was talking about food and goods if you erect trade barriers between you and your main market / supplier you incur extra costs with each twist of the knife Brexit piles more pressure onto a cracking cost of living crisis. Vet certificates cost money delays cost money carrying extra stock because the supply chain is fked costs money spoilage because of the delays costs money export markets closing costs money Every last drop of it is coming out of your pocket
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  1109.  @El.Cid17  You obviously don't understand what a Free market is the loss of GDP is around 60 billion in lost tax revenue alone and doesn't factor the complete collapse in long term investment or the 30% weakening of the £ or total lack of access to a large labour market Its the sheer quantity of economic damage like a wrecking ball across the economy These are from financial articles FT Reuters Bloomberg quote The red-tape curtain is very expensive – costing an average 8-9% for both goods and services, and exports and imports. That’s around £25 billion a year on UK exports of just under £300 billion to the EU (2019 figures). This is a long-term trading cost Quote Economic and environmental wrecking ball': Study tots up £83bn cost of Retained EU Law Bill Quote Brexit has wrecked Britain's car industry 20 May 2023 — Production fell 9.8% from 2021, and declined 41% from 2019 Quote British pig farmers 'fear ruin' over Brexit 31 Jan 2022 — The slaughter backlog within the British pig industry is almost certainly down to butcher shortages as a result of Brexit. Quote 'Fears of new bureaucracy, rules and costs have all come true': Brexit making touring Europe 'unviable' for UK artists The number of UK artists booked for European festivals this summer is down 45% compared to 2017-19, according to the group Best for Britain - which previously campaigned against Brexit.
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  1110.  @gpw203  go park it since 2016 Germany has seen wage growth of 20% The complete bag of horseshit you've been fed is just that Being in a single market with NO tariffs NO paperwork NO barriers to trade helps everyone sell to a market of 440 million and the EU had THE BEST TRADE DEALS on the PLANET. Our Japan deal is sloppy seconds at best Large companies have complex supply chains which Brexit has fkd up Medium businesses are setting up abroad small business are shrinking or going under You where SOLD Global Britain which means zero protections for home markets mass unemployment as every fker under the sun rapes our economy with unfettered GLOBALIZATION Those Tory tossers don't give a fk about you the plan was complete free market deregulation to pollute fire / rehire import to the lowest standard possible and drive wages through the floor with a ruling elite gorging unfettered capitalism profits while the rest of us ROT. Its that fkin bad 1/2 a million emigrated last year and it will get worse
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  1111.  @Stand663  What's to fight about NI don't want this legislation they voted 60-40 for the protocol
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  1112.  @Stand663  the paper work and friction were chosen by the Tories and their hard Brexit there's 2 places to put a border because of that choice and in Ireland isn't going to happen no matter how much the unionists bitch about flags. The DUP wanted Brexit they've got it if they don't like it tuff we told you so. The protocol is a signed binding agreement the Tories campaigned and won an 80 seat majority on so no backsies
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  1113. The allowance for a couple is 3 million This affects the landlord farmers and businesses trying to dodge IHT
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  1114. We have a Right wing nutter bought and paid for by the Billionaire class pontificating about the BBC Comedy gold
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  1115.  @beagle30  since when there all paid to undermine anything that's neutral and publicly owned, if its not owned and controlled by the billionaire class they want it gone. Whatever the BBC faults are the biggest to them is with it being that they can't control the narrative so there propaganda only goes so far before it hits reality.
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  1116. Which is lucky given the gibberish they pedal​ @jjefferyworboys8138 
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  1117. Just since the Tories got in ack in 2010, longest hardest period of stagnation and negative economic growth since the Napoleonic war and the highest tax burden since WW2
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  1118.  @everest9707  2010 Osborne cut nursing busuries leading to a decrease in domestically trained nurses Classic Thatcherism Supply side Trickle down economics needs a constant supply side Labour pool (migrant workers) to cover the lack of domestic investment
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  1119. ​@KIoakk there going to take your human rights away for a start Then Privatise the BBC getting rid of the only independent news channel
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  1120. Why would the Republicans want Trump again he was an economic disaster who added +50% to the national debt (8 trillion) with unfunded tax cuts to sky high the stock market and fuel inflation Trump by the numbers over 4 years +50% debt 8 trillion taking debt to GDP to record levels of 132% -3 million jobs -3.6% GDP etc. the US would go bankrupt with another Trump term
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  1121. Why be a complete dick head and repeat ignorant media commentators talking points trying to stir up Trans hate
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  1122. More Tory economics Marvellous can't wait to be even poorer
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  1123.  @111111877  just pointed out the bleeding obvious
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  1124. Starmer at least has a mortgage
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  1125.  @alanpartington2540  Starmer in PMQ's
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  1126. @alanpartington2540  why wouldn't you the right wing media would be all over it if it weren't true Knowing them he's probably being followed 24/7 to try dig up anything they can as their precious Tories self immollate
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  1127.  @ryanfisk3671  it's a market that's 20 miles away and is the main supply chain for businesses across UK dummy Brexit's sole purpose was to glue the Tory Party together its political economically its a complete fkin train wreck hence empty shelves and let them eat turnips, they lied when they guffed off about benifits. There's no plan just a steaming wreck of an economy as we collectively get poorer and see higher taxes and increased costs of products
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  1128.  @ryanfisk3671  you got large number of migrants over because the Tories were all in on an UREGLATED ZERO HOUR LOW WAGE ECONOMY people just came for the jobs
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  1129. Relying on fossil fuel from a far off country who would have thought it would be a problem?
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  1130. Wouldn't mattered who was in charge because Brexit is an economic train wreck and 50 years of asset stripping Thatcherism has run out of road
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  1131. That's caused by trickle down economics same policy Reform are wedded to
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  1132. ​ @princealex3985 it's 1.25 million of which 50% are dependents The numbers are a direct result of loosing FOM a non EU worker will want to fetchthier family you can't justdrive through the channel tunnel for Xmas And We can't reduce migration while you run Supply Side Trickle Down economics aka Thatcherism otherwise your squeezing middle and lower class income to pay for tax breaks and cuts for the rich, as it is Thatcherism is exploding tax at the lower end
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  1133. Funny how it = the pre election bribe of cutting NI
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  1134. Increase your wages below the inflation doesn't cause more inflation. Its way more complex than that. The core reason we have high inflation is energy costs have soared from 30 billion in 2021 to 170 billion expected in 2023.
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  1135. borders have 2 sides France could bankrupt us in weeks by closing dover calais
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  1136. NatCon has zero to do with Conservatism as usual follow the money The NatCon Brussels event was sponsored and coordinated by Mathias Corvinus Collegium (MCC), a Hungarian think tank funded by oil and gas money.
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  1137. I'll stick to getting medical advice from medical professionals not some guy off the internet
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  1138. 😂😂😂😂😂 Get real Nige your the 2nd most disliked party in the uk
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  1139. The lock her up was campaign stuff she never did anything serious enough they could pin on her Trump is and always will be a blowhard all mouth and no action unless its burning through other peoples money
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  1140. ​@TheGazza636 Tice is deluded and doesn't understand Trade and its complexity. Eu rule alignment will happen because we can't afford not too the more you diverge the more it costs the less competitive we are. Not only are our exports to the EU by volume falling due to trade barriers with the supply chain knackered so are our exports to the rest of the world.
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  1141. @TheGazza636  our supply chains run in/out and through the EU, supply chain disruption is already custing us billions. Any product sold in the EU has to meet EU standards just look at Apple they've adopted usb C worldwide. Uk firms still produce to the CE mark difference now is we have tons of paperwork and red tape to negotiate for the privilege. The more you diversify (lower standards) the more paperwork there will be the more f8rms will just give up and relocate to the EU and sell back into the UK
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  1142. @TheGazza636  yes I voted to join Since then we've spent decades integrating our supply chains and removing duplication ex- Gallileo, Horizon as well as harmonising trade rules so a sole trader in Doncaster can sell all over Europe tariff tax and paperwork free. Now we have certificates delays tariffs multiple tax codes and import / export issues with 27 different countries who are on our doorstep
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  1143. @TheGazza636  the firm my wife work's for does export/import and has to deal with all the fallout even thier US exports are down My son is Ceoliac and gluten free food was mostly manufactured in Europe since Brexit prices have doubled also I can no longer send my younger brother a birthday present he lives in Norway paperwork is to cumbersome you have to fill in export forms. I'm also not a fan of paying higher taxes because our gdp has fallen
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  1144. @TheGazza636  you a taxpayer if so fiscal drag instituted by Sunak is taking +£500 off you in income tax and NI. Our gdp per capita has fallen and continues to fall affecting tax revenues and disposable income as salaries don't keep up with inflation
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  1145. Bringing NI back into the fold would create a hard border in Ireland restart sectarian violence and crash the NI economy
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  1146. Were not going to get overseas investors while we have trade barriers with our closest market 20 miles away so its irrelevant.
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  1147. He promised the undeliverable Leveling up gone Brexit is a mess His lies cought up with him
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  1148. Right wing policies are the root cause of high imigration so who cares
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  1149. It does we need to clamp down on right wing Billionaires setting up Propaganda channels and claiming there News and also make them declare their links to the Billionaire climate denial network
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  1150. Unless your a Millionaire + then voting Conservative has always been against your economic interests Thatcher bribed the boomer generation with a one of sale of thier own assets but I put that down to a stupidity
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  1151.  @Lorraine-p4r  Brexit was a lie purpotrated by the Libertarian elite who dreamed of Singapore on Thames It was all about London screw everyone else All they've delivered is Argentina on the Channel, Truss was thier last chance of turning the UK into a deregulated sh1thole
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  1152. Experts warned that removing FOM would increase migration not decrease it but apparently we've had enough of experts
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  1153. If you only have a hammer everything looks like a nail Interest rates wont cure UK inflation because its not demand driven its supply on inelastic world commodities If you want to bring down inflation tax the 170 billion in windfall profits @75% and push it back to consumers and businesses that don't spend 9k a year on personal heated swimming pools also stop giving handouts to the likes of millionaire pensioners bankers and the fossil industry
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  1154. I want the government to process all the people in the system and stop wasting 8 billion but there not doing that what did you want them to do?
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  1155. Why does banning a Libertarian propaganda channel have a connection with Stalinism. GBN is not news even offcom agree
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  1156. whatever you do gas prices won't come down best way of dealing with it is to move to renewables in 2021 gas and renewables where on par price wise UK customers paid 30 billion with rising fossil prices that figure is expected to reach 170 billion in 2021 so 140 billion in EXCESS profits
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  1157. @James_36  if you freeze the 20% threshold like Sunak has someone on 20k pays £500 extra in tax but so does someone on 50k if you change the rate from 20% to 19% someone on 20k gets +£75 someone on 50k gets £350. If you earn your income from capital gains you pay 20% no matter what no NI nada
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  1158.  @mn5499  mine are from the Office for Budgetry Responsibility and are the ones quoted in the financial papers
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  1159.  @mn5499  do what you want it makes no odds the Tories have screwed up the economy that badly no one will lend them extra for thier brain dead tax cut guff
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  1160.  @mn5499  the main problem was the. Tories ran up the debt to pay for tax cuts. 2010 it was 62% by 2019 it was 92% During the Blair years we had +25% growth in average wages Cameron /May - 3% Current clown car bunch God knows Saying no one could do better is churlish could anyone have done as bad?
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  1161.  @mn5499  the economic data shows following Brown's plan would have lead to 15% increase in growth and wages from 2010 to 2019 what we had was Austerity pulling well over 100 billion out of the economy at a time it needed stimulating flatlinig the economy into now its second decade of Tory stagnation. Every £1 spent by the government has an economic multiplier as it goes into the economy it starts a cycle of tax spend and increased economic activity resulting in the overall cost to the Treasury in the case of Austerity of 20p in the £1 I'm not interested in the red team blue team I just care about my pay packet and services supply side economics aka Thatcherism doesn't work as an economist we have half a decade of data proving it and debunking the low tax myth. You don't get growth and you do get low wages and an ever widening pay gap.
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  1162.  @mn5499  who spun you the yarn the Treasury gets more when taxes are low? The nock off point is somewhere round 60-65% on top rate income tax and 45% on corporate tax The reason you have corporate tax at around 30% is to encourage investment in the businesses dynamic growth and high tech businesses continously reinvest they never pay corporation taxes that leaves the cash cows to lumber on they don't have much growth and there is zero reason to give them a tax break in fact by doing so the stop investing ways in ways to improve productivity and pull more and more money out of the businesses in stock buy back and shareholder dividends. Politically I'm as moderate as they come in my lifetime we've had a couple of left wing governments in Wilson and Callaghn with Blaire being the Centerist of centerists Thatcher and Cameron both signed up to supply side economics as does Sunak now Supply Side just doesn't work Thatcher got away with it by asset stripping and oil money to fund tax cuts Cameron tried Austerity and tax cuts plus deregulation where he could and completely stagnated the economy which is why income and sales taxes are at record levels. Corporate tax take as a proportion of overall taxes has fallen since the Thatcher era.
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  1163.  @mn5499  he's from the Chicago school everything they pushed with neoliberalism has been debunked by over half a decade of data Read Paul Krugman - Arguing with Zombies There's a couple of podcasts on political economics you should try by Origin Story Neoliberalism : Everything's for sale Centerism : Stuck in the Middle with You As i pointed out Thatcher got Neliberal economics to work on the back of asset stripping Oil and Globalisation When Cameron/ May tried it we had a decade of stagnation and worse just to keep it from going into recession they allowed a rampant unregulated gig economy to emerge creating millions of low paid jobs wich resulted in millions of EU low paid migrants. Truss as part of her so called growth plan was going to open the floodgates to migrant workers from the Indian sub continent We have nothing to sell off Globalisation is going into reverse and the bulk of the Gammons don't want mass migration so how the feck can you run a low tax economy when reducing the state means reducing the services that the workers in the low wage economy you've created depend on them?
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  1164.  @mn5499  and Krugman got a Nobel prize in economics and he says its bollox There's no data that shows this if you drop corporate tax as the US did in 2017 and we did in 2015 it just goes onto public debt neither tax giveaways created squat both stored up future inflationary pressures. Aside from that you're not going to get away with mass immigration to get supply side any where near working
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  1165.  @mn5499  no there isn't I presume your a millionaire Quote "Based on our research, we would argue that the economic rationale for keeping taxes on the rich low is weak," Julian Limberg, a co-author of the study and a lecturer in public policy at King's College London, said in an email to CBS MoneyWatch. "In fact, if we look back into history, the period with the highest taxes on the rich — the postwar period — was also a period with high economic growth and low unemployment. Quote Start with the economy. Over the course of the neoliberal era, economies around the world have become more and more unequal. In the United States, the wealthiest 1 percent took home about 8.5 percent of the national income in 1976. After a generation of neoliberal policies, in 2014 they captured more than 20 percent of national income. In Britain, the top 1 percent captured more than 14 percent of national income—more than double the amount they took home in the late 1970s. The story is the same in Australia: The top 1 percent took about 5 percent of national income in the 1970s and doubled that to 10 percent by the late 2000s. As the rich get richer, wages have been stagnant for workers since the late 1970s. Between 1979 and 2008, 100 percent of income growth in the U.S. went to the top 10 percent of Americans. The bottom 90 percent actually saw a decline in their income.
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  1166.  @mn5499  he's a Libertarian the answer to everything is tax cuts and a smaller state Krugman debunked every part of his work with decades of real data The partial quote I showed you was of a complete study of 50 years of Neoliberal Supply side economic policy. Responsibile for the Asian financial crash and the 2008 Banking crisis due to overzealous deregulation Responsibile for lowering wages for low and stagnating wages for the middle class Responsibile for the increase in corporate Oligoplies suppressing competition increasing prices for normal consumers. And now responsible for the second decade in a row of the UK stagflation Its a completely and utterly failed economic philosophy with the receipts to prove it
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  1167.  @mn5499  1 out of 100 economists tells you that tax cuts are the economic nirvana, we have an accumulated 50 years of data showing that the 1 is wrong yet your belief system in Libertarian ideals are so strong you block it out. The Chicago school has been debunked on again and again dunked on multiple times and shown its wrong yet still it rises like a zombie why because it suits large corporations and the ultra wealthy who pedal this shyte, they pour billions into think tanks and academics to get a foothold of legitimacy it's no different to the pro smoking lobby or the anti climate change crew. Vested interests spinning you a half believable yarn that tries to cloak itself in legitimacy. The only low tax models that even half work are propped up by oil money and are as corrupt as fk aka The Saudis Russia etc Go listen to Neoliberalism Everything's for sale to understand why any of it even gets a smidgen of traction its junk economics at its worst
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  1168.  @mn5499  Given you've been banging on about Sowell's figures I went an looked at the iconic birth of NeoLiberalism the Reagan Era. The first thing is Reagan's big tax cuts in 1981 didn't create more revenue and were quickly followed by tax hikes in 82 83 84 and 87 Inflation at the time was running at over 10% with interest rates reaching their peak in August 81 at 20.5%. The Reagan era also saw a huge increase in the US deficit to pay for both the tax cuts and the expansion of defence spending. Both tax cuts and government spending have what's called an economic multiplier in relation to tax cuts that's regarded by Fed Committee for budgeting to return around 20 cents in the Dollar. The economic multiplier for spending varies infrastructure projects will in general pay for themselves and the huge cash injection into defence spending and the economy coupled with a reduction in interest rates where key factors in US economic growth. So Sowell's 2+2 = tax cut still doesn't work
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  1169.  @mn5499  I read the rationale behind his general thesis and checked the Regan era numbers The issue is if you pump 1 trillion into an economy you'll get tax growth no matter what you do with tax rates and bands, Reagan just kicked the can down the road Same as Cameron in 2015 and Trump 2017 all ran up huge deficits pumping money into the economy. Deregulation lead to the Asian crash then the Global crash in 2008 If you look at the Trump tax cuts it generated a huge Sugar high for the stock market and he ended up doubling the Federal debt again by pumping money into the economy we see now the Nasdaq 33% down on its inflated high and inflation biting into the US economy. Biden is pumping 3/4 of a Trillion into it to transition from fossil this will again start the tax spend merry-go-round. I admire you for your zeal but tax cuts dont do what Sowell says its a far more complex picture and the one thing we know for certain is if you pump money into an economy it starts a merry-go-round of tax and spend good old Keynsian theory at its finest. Its also worth noting that the US is a collaboration of 50 differing state economies and has a huge amount of oil and gas production. You also need to disconect from the 70's/80's the higher tax rates in the US and UK where insane the data I've seen shows a reversal at round 60% if your a higher rate payer 50 + NI is around the cealing for the uk With round 100% debt to gdp in the uk the gilt market isn't going to loan you money for tax cuts that return pennies in the pound as Truss found out Lastly I'll get round to reading Sowell in full at some stage but I've been through stuff on the Chicago school before it was way too thin on its macroeconomic cause and effect and has been widely debunked by Krugman and others Finally Libertarian neoliberalism is a complete dead end its focus on self rather than community has multiple downsides even apart from the burgeoning wealth gap or the minimum wage economy and associated poverty and corporate capture plus oligopoly
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  1170. Reform are Libertarian economic nut jobs with a populsit agenda against migrants and refugees, there not trying to conserve anything bar the horrendous amount of Corporate and wealth tax breaks
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  1171. What fkwit would vote to give away their own human rights, that really Is a new level of dumb?
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  1172. Bit rich banging on on this channel as there forever going on about deregulation. This is the sign of a things to come along with pollution in our rivers. Low reg disaster capatilist shithole economy designed for the Tory elite and big business donors. They'll make a bit of noise but still give the parent company a free port to manage. And yes it is connected to brexit its a result of the globalisation Agenda that will undercut home grown industry and workers
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  1173. 70% of counties by GDP in the US voted for Biden, Texas may be governed by the Republicans but it no different to any other part of the US, there already seeing a Brain drain of Doctors, Nurses and Teachers.
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  1174. It's pointless councils investing in property when the Con's flog it off on the cheap
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  1175. No one wants to do fruit picking jobs the farmers will just stop growing crops if you don't allow for seasonal workers, tons of food rotted in the fields last year this year farmers are scaling back and food prices are rocketing up as we replace UK produce with imports
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  1176.  @Th3_Gael  Why pull it down to a personal experience when figures are based on a population 67 million across the whole of the country. Making economic policy on Bert's experience down the road is recipe for disaster. The UK working population has contracted by a large percentage overall go look at the data from the ONS.
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  1177. If you want higher wages vote for a party that doesn't introduce union busting legislation allow zero hour contracts actively encourage outsourcing and bring in such wonders as TUPE
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  1178. Why would you vote REFORM their Tory with added be evil to refugees Their economic policy is a cut and Paste from Lettuce Liz You remember her the one that single handily nearly crashed all UK pension companies and left a 60 billion hole in UK finances while bumping up interest rates by 1.5 points?
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  1179. Reform voters weren't going to vote Tory anyway
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  1180.  @chrispennington9652  Reform are just a rebadged Libetarian party, same shit supply side globalist economic policies that Sunak pedals
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  1181. And replace with WHO, the problems we have are structural and 50 years in the making the ultimate ar5e end of Thatcherism Energy bills tripled Trains that don't run raw sewage in the rivers housing shortage Even the Horizon scandal is Thatcher and the Con's fault Outsourcing everything at cheapest price screw quality or accountability
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  1182. If you invest in your population then economically the standards will rise you can see this clearly in the data The Blair economy had a rise of +25% to average wages (there's a load of things I didn't like about the Blair government but you can't knock their handling of the wider economy) Cameron / May had a rise of -3% to average wages a feat not seen since the Napolionic war Jonson is scheduled to bust that negative 3% in just 3 years The Conservative pursuit of supply side and trickle down economics is going to kill wage growth for decades but hey that's what Tories do the rich get richer fk everyone else
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  1183.  @patdbean  what 13 years of them give me a break Where bottom of the G7 in predicted growth for 2022, the US and French economy have completely recovered from covid while we have the highest taxes in living memory The current sorry economic state is the result of supply side economic policy introduced by Osborne in 2010 and now being peddled by Sunak in 2022 and what's worse is the likes of Farage and Tice pedal the same economic nonsense that's driven us into what will now be a decade of stagflation. The lot of them promise low tax low regulatory economic policy which if they do that will need propping up with huge amounts of public debt, you can see the effects of this during the covid crisis, low taxation at the top and business end over 10 years hadn't reduced the deficit enough The Bank of England had to pump large sums into the economy and at its worst the economy shrank by 11% Last time I looked it had gained back +9 but it's about to shrink again due to Sunaks budget for the wealthy which didn't touch unearned income or high earners and in fact gave bankers a 2 billion cut
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  1184.  @patdbean  they could increase it and lower the age from 23 to 18 Every penny pumped into the bottom end of the economy is spent, the range you pay tax is crazy as well the allowance is 12750 the minimum living wage is calculated at something like 20800 I went to university when it was free in fact I got a bursary for coming from a a relatively poor family kids these days are being hit with 10s of thousands of pounds of debt
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  1185.  @patdbean  300,000 only Increases the population by 50,000 if that we have birth rate of 1.6 Right wing political parties push globalisation and don't care if child labour in Africa can make it cheaper then they will import it undercutting local industry That's why there importing cheaper workers from india
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  1186.  @patdbean  immigration from the EU went up because we had the jobs that needed people and successive governments thought an expanding economy was the way to go. The current lot will say one thing then ddo another through the back door. By the way I'm . not against curbing uncontrolled immigration my main point is we need + 250k for a net stable population. We also need a more nuanced conversion on the topic
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  1187. you'll find he got kicked out of office for being a lying arsehole
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  1188. If you want to lower migration increase tax and invest in the domestic population What You dont want to increase tax or shut down the massive loopholes and tax breaks for the wealthy Then STFU about immigration because your part of the problem
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  1189. All he ever did was stick the Tory party together to gain power his Brexit deal was a PR exercise hence the complete giveaway of NI and then he promised whatever the various Tory factions wanted they could have English Nationalist - No Immigration Leveling Up Libertarian - Compete deregulation unlimited immigration The guy would say anything to anyone to survive the next news cycle
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  1190. ​@alyb731 you'd have to be really rich and stupid to pay IHT 1st SIPP pension pots are exempt, 2nd spouse to spouse property is exempt and you can claim both the parents tax allowance to immediate relatives
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  1191.  @muirislandjim453  Your benefiting from tax policy that transfers money from people that work to people that hold assets Why should you double dip?
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  1192. Government tax policies have benefited you in terms of Asset values disproportionate to those of people that work. If your that bent on not paying the low rate of CGT go live in Norway for a year and they don't pay inheritance tax either. If your getting near pensionable age sell a property and shove it in a pension you've 5 years worth of income allowances @ 40% of your earnings and the government will give you 20% Take financial advice but there are multiple ways round this  @muirislandjim453 
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  1193. Its just the culmination of 13 Years of Thatcherism trickle down + Austerity If you follow a failed economic model for 13 years the sh1t really starts to hit the fan aka RAAC, ballooning crime figures, prisons overcrowded more and more people in the asylum system because your not processing them because you've cut staff. etc.
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  1194.  @vampire__uk  There are trades people left after Brexit in area interesting?
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  1195. Your in Boris's post brexit serf economy fastest growing industry food banks for the poor
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  1196. Liz is a Libertarian and Cruella is a National populist not a conservative bone in either of their bodies Last proper Con leader they had was Major
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  1197. Why would you vote REFORM their Tory with added be evil to refugees Their economic policy is a cut and Paste from Lettuce Liz You remember her the one that single handily nearly crashed all UK pension companies and left a 60 billion hole in UK finances while bumping up interest rates by 1.5 points?
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  1198. That will be the Trade deals that lost so many farming votes in North Shropshire ? The same ones that are worth +ZERO GDP to the UK economy? Jeez you people live in a bubble
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  1199. If you want to shut down the black economy you need regulations, ID Cards and staff to enforce it This is Tory Brexit Britain invest in nothing regulate fk all and push cash to your donors and mates
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  1200.  @annother3350  just 19 other cases Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3)
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  1201. we have an energy crisis which needs investment in and there promising to lower taxes for the wealthy how does that work? If you pump 28 billion into renewable energy it has an economic multiplier of a minimum 1.6 which means for every £1 you put in it creates enough GDP to return £1.6 in additional taxation. As a pensioner this will help me enormously because it will lower energy costs and I'm home most of the day far more than any tax cut. Getting energy costs down to 2020 levels would be the equivalent to me of my tax going from 20% to 10%
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  1202. ​ Leidolfr that's good then we can repair the social floor and get the country back on its feet again
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  1203. If you want lower immigration then you need to invest in the uk social and physical infrastructure Free higher education, retraining programs, house building,transport, relocation schemes etc. There is no easy fix and non of this involves tax cuts
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  1204. What's wrong with cheaper energy
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  1205. Yes you can you need to remove part of the 700 billion printed during Covid and 130 billion caused by Truss from where its trickled up to its basically swilling around the pockets of the wealthy and super wealthy Quote Luxury goods boom in Britain as super-rich youngsters buck the recession Rich kids fuel sales of brands such as Burberry, Louis Vuitton and Gucci They’re young, rich and mortgage-free, and the scions of the 1% are having a roaring twenties. Despite the economic gloom currently shrouding the UK and many other western countries, sales of luxury brands have been booming and growing numbers of buyers are young adults. Swiss watches, Louis Vuitton trainers, rare Birkin bags and 81-year-old whiskies are among the products that are fuelling impressive growth in the bottom lines of luxury brands such as LVMH, Burberry and Kering.
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  1206. Who pays cgt? I'm well off and I don't, Sunak and Hu nt do though
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  1207. Net zero will save money on energy I'd also like to point out we've subsidised fossil by 500 billion since the Thatcher era
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  1208. Reform follow the same Libertarian supply side globalisation economic policies that Sunak is hell bent on implementing and is screwing over the economy at the moment So it will get worse and worse till you elect a party that doesn't keep trying to implement a failed economic model that's based on political dogma
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  1209. @philipharris7594  all the laws on the books were enacted by the UK Parliment, the horseshit there trying to peddle is revoking 50 years worth of laws we enacted while as a member. The whole point of common standards is you don't waste huge tranches of money double certifying goods for export then filling out pages of forms to comply with bothe taking an axe to everything from Labour and workers rights polution legislation to hygiene standards would cost uk businesses over 83 billion over 5 years onto of the tens of billions already added. Regulatory divergence will never happen we will always get dragged back to alignment because the market is 20 miles away its called trade gravity you can't tow the UK into the Pacific so trade divergence is a fantasy. Even if they could achieve Global Britain that would entail complete globalisation with zero trade barriers our home economies wrecked by zero standard cheap imports and unlimited cheap labour.
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  1210. The left haven't missed a point they just don't care maybe we should join the EU to get guarantees like this If you are legally resident in an EU country you are entitled to open a "basic payment account". Banks cannot refuse your application
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  1211. Experts told you legal and illegal migration would increase post brex1t and you labeled it project fear Gove even went on to say we've had enough of experts You voted for it we told you so now suck it up and take responsibility
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  1212.  @WillyEckaslike  You got what you voted for a hard brex1t, you were told it would wreck the economy and increase migration no you said project f e a r How about admitting you were conned for a start
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  1213. ​ @bwright227 it was probably Sunak's team that leaked it bit of revenge for her gobbling off so much
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  1214. ​ Contuing with GAS will cost double the cost of Net Zero transition In 2021 uk consumers spent 30 billion on energy of which renewables where the cheapest source In 2023 uk consumers will pay 170 billion of which renewables will be x7 cheaper than GAS Net zero spend comes out of the government and needs to do so quickly to reduce the ongoing 140 billion in excess energy profits Over 10 years that's 1.4 trillion sucked out of the economy
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  1215. we've had 3 years of chaos and were now getting higher taxes than at any time since WW2 plus shrinking purchasing power and that's after negative wage growth and a stagnant economy under Cameron / May. In those 12 years we've had huge increases in corporate profits and money flowing to the top creating the biggest wealth gap in comparison to other European countries. Voting Tory is literally bad for your wallet so why are you an activist and what do the Conservatives stand for apart from vomiting on carpets for people on minimum wage to clean up after?
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  1216. No they haven't the oven ready deal was widely known to be a complete pile of crap and the Protocol put a border down the Irish sea because of the hard Brexit
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  1217. The government have pumped 100's of billions into right to buy and other property schemes which boost House prices and boomers have basically been bribed with state asset sales so there's no cream left for the younger generation its all been spent mostly by the Tories on tax cuts.
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  1218. Why would anyone who's enjoyed years of peace vote for a bunch of sectarian crusties? Voting based on your religion is nuts to start with I just looked at some polls the DUP could end up 3rd behind the Alliance party oh how I would laugh if that happened
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  1219.  @gerardflynn3899  I looked at the polling breakdown its remarkably consistent across age ranges, looking at the total breakdown there's a hard core of 30-32% that appear to be radicalised by Unionist rhetoric. They unionists don't appear to stand for anything bar social Conservatism and hating Catholics I was really shocked I didn't think there would be consistent support in the youth its just sad
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  1220. Do your research on renewable energy per unit it is 2.5 times cheaper than that generated by Coal
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  1221. since when he's still pedaling supply side reforms which if enacted would remove workers rights enable low quality foreign imports of food and goods cratering home grown business creating high unemployment with reduced labour laws your int a zero hour low wage economy centered round an elite service sector we need industry and farming and outside the City and home counties not more shyte in our rivers and seas with unfit for human consumption meat from tim buck too
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  1222. If Labour are elected your likely to see a rise in personal allowances at the 20% range + a rise in the minimum wage. Why Because it takes people off in work benefit and reduces government spend in that area example - Fiscal Drag for someone on 20,000 is extra £500 in tax its also £500 for someone on £50,000 The Tory proposal of say 1p tax cut in the £ is £75 for someone on £20,000 and £350 for someone on £50,000 And If we don't go Nett Zero it will cost more here's why Quote The OBR concludes: the debt impact of future volatility in gas prices is at 13% of the UK gross domestic product (GDP) to 2050. This dwarfs the debt impact of 6% of GDP for investing in net zero. Second, it investigates the potential of new, growing energy solutions to cushion price volatility Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP
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  1223.  @Oak_Knight  We were never in the control of the EU we had a veto. The single market is about trade harmonization and the demolition of barriers for mutual economic benefit, we still have to meet those standards or we can't trade with the EU so were tied at the hip to a trading block through Trade Gravity (its 20 miles away) but have erected all sorts of trade barriers because flags
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  1224. More government spend on something that used to be free The headline numbers he's talking about aren't adjusted for inflation according to the ONS overall exports trade went down by 0.3% with a fall of 7% to the EU
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  1225. ​ @tonyfraser1749 since when did we get a vote to leave the Single Market or loose our FOM back in 2016 all was on the ballot was EU not the rest of the shit they've tacked onto it
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  1226. Neither has Braverman it's all hot air forr the gulible
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  1227. The reason the economy is knackered is Thatcherism Reform promote economic Thatcherism its like hey that didn't work 14 years in a row maybe if someone else did the same things will change
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  1228. He's an amateur compared to Sunak, +23 tax rises, hs2/3 gone leveling up now punching down and an economy that has average wages -7% lower than 2010
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  1229. You promote the NeoLiberal policies that drive migration Matt so why don't you explain to the group here why Legal Migration is so High No? Thought not lets demonize refugees instead
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  1230. Where do they get these people from, do they go round and dredge up the most misinformed fossil fuel apologists they can find? The UK runs nearly 40% wind for electric the reason being wind power costsi 1/2 the price per megawatt hour to produce go look up Dogger Bank wind farm to see what's happening in the sector Also we don't own the oil and gas in our waters the government sold off the leases to private companies wayside from a bit of tax even then the Cons have given Shell sweeteners
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  1231. Why would A Labour term change border policy to open you need better drugs
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  1232.  @stevec6427  the Tory asylum debacle is estimated to be costing an additional 3-4 billion in extra costs that doesn't include money wasted on Rwanda
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  1233. Its simplistic rubbish the Tories economic policies need a constant stream of migrant labour to grow the economy if you cut that off because the likes of Osborne / Sunak won't tax the rich and implement progressive taxation you get the squeeze and inflation were currently getting at the bottom and your also looking at a labour market with over 1.2 million vacancies.
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  1234. ​@savemefrommorons not with allowances and I have other pensions on top so fiscal drag is already catching me, if it had been uprated with inflation it would be 14,400 so a loss of around £400 remember NI thresholds are the same if your working that's another £200. Anyone on minimum may as well emigrate now
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  1235. ​@maccagrabme regulatory alignment = free trade = improved standard of living We have to follow EU rules for trade anyway the bulk of our SME supply chain is through the EU but now we fill in paperwork have checks and tarifs. The worst of all worlds
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  1236. That is incorrect GBNEWS is an opinion channel a lot of he stuff on here is factually wrong
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  1237. There's always wars going on around the world while the Cabinet keeps this constant drip of mealy mouthed lying and deflection then it won't go away. Its a symptom of a bigger problem with this government
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  1238. What is this awful woman doing on TV she wants to give rich people more money at your expense and tie our economy forever to oil and gas
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  1239. How do you get Turkeys to vote for xmas tell them migrant chickens will steal there jobs Legal migration has quadrupled since leaving the EU and illegal migration doubled + the economy is in the toiled with rising taxes Ever get the feeling you were duped
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  1240. ​ @Noel-ji8nm it's a shame Corbyn never lived up to that saying The man who handed the Tories an 80 seat majority on a plate, a man who had never implemented a policy in his life, never had to confront real life politics just lived in his elite socialist bubble. No better than Whako Truss on the right or Fartages fake Populism
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  1241. So with Brexit being a complete failure with higher than needed food prices higher tariffs on goods fewer exports less choice in the shops and even leading to higher immigration because dependants that's a winner in my book
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  1242. The last labour government had well funded services +20% Average wage growth how's that the same?
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  1243. Conservative tells the poor the rich aren't getting enough tax breaks - usual fake news oh Liz Truss Listen to this rubbish and your brain will rot
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  1244. You need councillors on the ground sending out the message and talking to the voters, activists canvasing despite zero media coverage the Lib Dems have 3000 + councillors a whole load of activists canvasing, same with the Greens and Labour Reform are a tin pot party with a foghorn at the top 2 councillors and zero ground game
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  1245. If you have a supply side shortage as in energy you could ad more renewables to the grid quickly to reduce dependency on gas Oh I know lets ignore it and let the BOE use a demand side tool to crush the snot out of the economy instead
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  1246. ​ @Gary-le7dz they don't understand that Thatcherism is the driving force of thier economic decline and record levels of immigration To them immigration is a tap you can turn on and off not a consequence of long term economic policy.
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  1247. Why wouldn't you want labour?
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  1248.  @iceshakle  not very humorous Blair gave us the best decade of prosperity the country has had in modern times +25% wage growth, real economic growth and well funded services Brown patched up the fallout from the banking crisis leaving 62% debt to gdp ratio and gdp per capita @50,000 You can have as many opinions you like on new labour period but those are the economic facts Osborne went on a personal crusade to shrink the state in doing so he shrank the economy suppressed public sector pay refused with Cameron to regulate the GIG economy leading to near 1 million workers pouring in on low paid zero hour contracts. And it's all been downhill since then the Tories have Never balanced the books debt to gdp ratio is 100% we borrowed 130 billion last year interest rates are eye-watering high and gdp per capita is 45,000 with people now on average worse off than they were in 2008. At this stage I'd settle for back to 2010 and a bit of a recovery rather than the economic doom loop were in
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  1249. If your going down this road then it would be wise to know what is possible and what is just more BS would it not? For example the promises on migration are pretty empty, legal migration is high because of economic policy its not something you can switch on and off while illegal is wrapped up in international law  @TJ-kw8ct ​
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  1250.  @iceshakle  why are you so afraid of the economic facts? If you don't like the New Labour years for Idealogical reasons then fine there's lots of ammunition. We have decades of data showing the economic failures and fallout of Thatcherism made even worse by Austerity to the point its stagnated the economy for 13 years.
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  1251. It's working as intended 2 million in 2 years, free market fundamentalist for you
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  1252. Yet more generated and all paying uk tax
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  1253. @diorocks5858  the cost of switching to renewables is 50% cheaper than staying with fossil fuel over the medium term Commodity values increase with scarcity and costs wind and sun is free
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  1254.  @alfredttarski4521  were effectively doing wto now that's what all the checks and border stuff is now Due to the were thin trade deal we have were 3rd country status making under who rules the EU can't give us preferential treatment if it wanted to, 1st country in the history of the world to put trade sanctions on ourself
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  1255. He left an economic skip fire by instigating a 20 billion unfunded tax cut as a pre election bribe and to run a scorched earth policy to crater any chances of Labour having any leeway on spending. What a narrow minded pathetic man he was
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  1256.  @DB-lq6tt  You've payed through the nose for energy and had the Treasury provide 72 billion in subsidies over the last year because Cameron abandoned Labour's insulation and renewable energy targets and you have the bare faced cheek to complain about Green investment that will move us away from the horrendous cost of being tied to GAS? WTF is wrong with you people ? do you not want cheaper energy and disconnecting from worldwide economic commodity shock? I got hammered for thousands over the last parliament as a home owing pensioner I don't care about the WFA. If the Tories had got in it would have cost our family dearly.
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  1257.  @DB-lq6tt  by suppressing public sector pay you got an explosion in migrants filling posts accompanied by their dependants numbers not seen since ww2 Your also paying for increased housing benefit claims and income support through taxation by creating a low wage economy. That economy in turn produces less taxation leading to overall increases in general taxation to cover the shortfall
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  1258. Who has a farm worth over 3 million? The Clarkson of this world trying to dodge iht
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  1259. Migration is the result of economic policy suppressing public service wages to as much as -30% over 14 years by the Tories is the main reason migration is at the levels it is as well as switching from FOM to a Visa scheme which has trebled the number of dependants.
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  1260. So the Haunted Pencil has spoken all bow to King Boris King of the Liars
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  1261. Tories dropped 2 points to 23% in the polls last week Labour gained 3 to 47% asset to Labour and the Lib-Dems more like
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  1262. Corbyn is long gone labour are becoming a fairly broad church party while the Conservative appear to only promote billionaire interests
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  1263.  @markbanner6473  the demographic of labour voters is changing if you follow this sort of stuff. Older working men are peeling off and voting on National populist grounds rather than who would be best for thier wallet
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  1264. very sweeping everyone is a leftie that don't agree with you no wonder this station is such a pile of garbage it brings out the worst of the worst the most intolerant
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  1265. He's just produced one of the most cynical budgets in Tory history taxing workers and the low paid as well as graduates to the hilt while ensuring unearned income is not touched. Not that you don't expect it from the Cons but to then shield your families unearned wealth in tax dodges and not even pay the absurd low UK rates is taking the piss
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  1266. CGT won't crater the economy its a way for rich people to not pay tax
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  1267. He's thick as mince, this is a gimmick a propaganda stunt If you fell for it more fool you
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  1268. He's bought and paid for by the billionaire class and doesn't care about the country
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  1269. More pollution more salmonella in our food more raw sewage in our rivers more and more paperwork for British exporters loss of markets because of low standards more cost due to duel certification. Take the digital standard GDPR lowering and dual standards will cost British Business 1.7 billion in application costs and would mean those that have business in the EU will set up offices in the EU and transfer their core business there also several US states have looked at the EU standard and are copying data integrity requirements.
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  1270.  @BabyBane100  ? we've left with Johnson's Unicorn deal unlike you I've moved on we need to get people in power that will sort the shtshw that all of Johnson lies have gotten the country into. You can't sort a problem out if you stick your head in the sand and go lalala its all the EU's fault and have no idea what direction your going in.
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  1271.  @clivemarriott7749  Gosh your living in an alternate reality where economics and facts doesn't apply and only media speak dogma is the order of the day. We had loads of people come here because the Cons created loads of low paid jobs and there was zero regulation neither the firms in the Gig economy nor the workers contributed enough in taxation. Biggest grooming gang had prince Andrew in it Keeping Labour green policies would have saved hundreds of billions to UK energy consumers its just a fact get over it. reducing corporation tax from 28p to 19p saw huge amounts of money taken out of companies in dividends and Bosses payments plus share buy backs while the TAB went onto the UK national debt non of it was re-invested.
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  1272. Tories gotta grift and this station shills or them all the time Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP
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  1273.  @mickreaddin4979  the numpty doesn't realise Le Pen would have signed an order to provide all the Calais refugees with boats and ordered the police to help them set off probably given them an escort out of French waters
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  1274.  @lumpyfishgravy  were running a debt to gdp ratio of 100%+ how do cut taxes without ballooning the debt? NI should never have gone up its too late now to reverse it they've done the uplift to thresholds
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  1275.  @wetincornwall6882  were not taking in enough in taxes, if you want to dampen inflation you need to raise taxes and interest rates 50%+ of the inflation is down to ballooning corporate profits the top companies made over +12.5% for the last year raising corporation tax should be a priority
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  1276. my taxes have gone up by 5605 this year because of fiscal drag so Sunak can put his lying mouth on a septic tank outflow and swallow
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  1277. Whys that then the worst economic record over the past 12 years in 150 and somehow every other party but this bunch of assclowns wouldn't be better? Take off the blue tinted glasses and stop making a fool of yourself by trying to excuse the worst government this country has ever had
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  1278. So how will Tice pay for the Tax Cuts because as everyone knows tax cuts don't grow the economy, last person to try it lasted less time than a decomposing lettuce
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  1279.  @oldshiny3012  Nothing I've seen on there website explains how they magic money from thin air. Tax cuts don't create growth for every £1 you give in a tax cut the average you get back in increased GDP growth is 20p Which is why the markets melted down with Truss's budget.
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  1280.  @ricardosmythe2548  Cutting services shrinks the economy every £1 saved with Austerity cost £1.60p. Defund the justice system get more crime reduces GDP Hire less people to process migrants more people in Hotels increases costs reduces GDP Privatising the NHS will increase costs not reduce them etc.
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  1281.  @oldshiny3012  The tax cuts were costed by others at around 50 billion straight to borrowing. Fiscal drag currently adds 30 billion, the recent NI Cut cost 9 billion. rate changes at 20% to 20k and 40% to 70k and the corporation tax cuts would cost 100 billion + Tax cuts don't create growth
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  1282.  @ricardosmythe2548  yes my reply was cut as well cutting services has an economic multiplier as well as tax so a £ saved doesn't mean you have £ to spend
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  1283.  @ricardosmythe2548  a paper by four PEF researchers – Rob Calvert Jump, Jo Michell, James Meadway and Natassia Nascimento – said the austerity measures – in 2010 and later in the decade – had led to weaker growth, a low-wage economy and contributed to the vote to leave the EU in the 2016 referendum.
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  1284.  @ricardosmythe2548  Assume you can make 20 billion in cuts with an economic multiplier of 0.5 (generous) Assume that you 100 billion in tax cuts attracts an average multiplier of 0.3 (also generous a lot of the higher end money to corporations and high earners disappears into fixed assets). You have 70 billion - 10 billion = 60 billion tax black hole
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  1285.  @ricardosmythe2548  Tice wouldn't do any of that he's the billionaire's b1tch GBN is a propaganda channel for the Libertarian ultra wealthy it has connections to the Lagatum institute and conversely the Heritage Foundation. It uses culture war wedge issues to promote a Libertarian sh1thole economy. TBH the 2 of us could get in a room and compromise on a whole range of issues which would take this country forward but the MSM and GBN would flame us to the ground.
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  1286.  @davidr4114  He's a Libertarian like Truss there what's called ultra Conservative. Go look over at CPAC
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  1287. He's ruined 100s of people's lives as well as getting people killed over his lies
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  1288. @Henry-Ludlow  macroeconomics are using a phone I have old stubby fingers There's 100+ billion in unfunded tax cuts in the Reform manifesto And Supply side economics runs on supply side Labour turn it off and your economy will grind through recession into a depression couple that with tax cuts paid for with debt and you have Argentina on the Channel
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  1289. @Henry-Ludlow Reform have 100+ billion in unfunded tax cuts + an immigration policy that is at direct odds with it's economic policy. Either there as stupid a s fk or there taking people for ride which is it?
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  1290. Sunaks Conservative party are spending money like drunken sailors they've already been warned by the IMF, were 100% debt to gdp borrowed 130 billion last year and no prospect of any improvement
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  1291. Don't be fkin dumb you don't need vet certification if you have a frictionless border, the UK government chose to inflict third country status on us adding a mountain of burecratic paperwork and checks. Frictionless border = no vet shortage Third country status = vet shortage This is entirely self inflicted and nothing to do with home trained vets
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  1292.  @angrybrit7331  No they didn't they chose to leave the EU, Norway isn't in the EU and it's still a member of the single market you'd need a lobotomy to think leaving the single market was a good idea it's like putting trade sanctions on yourself.
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  1293.  @angrybrit7331  free market fundementalism is con promoted by special interest groups. Its ideas are responsible for the decimation of white collar jobs.in the US rust belt and the 2008 crash. They would fry the planet and reintroduce on slavery if they could get away with it to make an Extra dollar.
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  1294.  @angrybrit7331  another myth promoted by the billionaire backers of Brexit that have fed millions into anti EU propaganda campaigns through social and platformed media. The EU has never been as strong one of the reasons is the remaining members have seen the complete fk up we've made of exiting, the border down the Irish Sea is all but built trade gravity and frictionless trade have caused the NI economy to align with the South and GB is being bypassed as a land bridge. The TPP countries are looking to the EU regulated level playing field free market model as a next step to curb China's growing influence and as a bulwark against another pandemic Main Brexit lies currently debunked Were better off economically - nope not a hope in hell ever The EU is collapsing - opposite is happening Southern Ireland will leave the EU - again the opposite is happening
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  1295. Rumour is it was Sunak's staff that leaked it Bit of blue on blue to get her to wind her neck in
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  1296.  @terencegumbs2478  Braverman's policies are purely soapbox theatre for the unwashed not a hope of any dealing with the problem Unsustainable you say do you know the numbers? 80,000 applicants last year of which 80% will be given asylum so 62,000 and we have a population of 68 million there's 180,000 now stuck in the system so bird brain Suella is deliberately housing 20% who should have been deported already and 80% who should be working in the economy Instead we have the complete fiasco that somehow where not bound by the UN charter on refugees You people really are mugs for swallowing this horsesh@t
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  1297.  @ChristineRead-ck1uq  Try appealing to people other that white over 50 racist angry men. They are the 2nd most disliked party in the UK give you a guess who the most disliked is. The Lib-Dems are set to become the opposition and by polling day will end up with the 2nd most votes overall.
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  1298.  @ChristineRead-ck1uq  If you dig into the polling they are the 2nd most disliked party with a negative 57 and could go lower with undecided. Their core demographic is 50+ angry white men and they offer nothing to anyone else. + there also not standing in all the seats and are basically an English nationalist party. On current polling they will get 2 seats the Cons 60 Lib-Dems 72
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  1299. Putin apologists go back to RT to pedal your propaganda
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  1300. Net Zero reduces Energy costs by switching away from GAS Energy costs 2020 to UK consumers 30 Billion Energy costs 2023 to UK consumers 170 Billion I make that 140 Billion reasons to go renewable don't you?
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  1301. It saves money and decoupled your economy from world market commodity shock While we had 11% inflation Norway had 3% there 92% renewable
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  1302. ye who needs people voting after all they should just be treated as tax cows given no rights on how its spent and thrown out at a whim Oh dear there goes half my local hospital staff - No wait come back we didn't mean it
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  1303. To lead what? UK gdp down by 10 points Highest tax levels since ww2 Average wages have fallen by -3% in the last decade Fuel prices through the roof Triple lock abandoned with 3.1 rise with inflation at 6% Maybe the Cons are having a contest each leader is worse than the last one but I have to say Bodger is at a whole different level of incompetent
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  1304. Reform are just a worse version of the Tories If only we had some grown ups as opposition not shills to the billionaire class
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  1305. he's spouting elite bollox because they can see their tax breaks disappearing
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  1306. Why the right wing in politics just look after the very rich. They say one thing to get your vote backed by corporate media then fk you over behind your back Look at Johnson a right wing populist like Farage promised to level up the country and control immigration instead Sunak's budget is for the Rich screws over graduates more than any other group and while they import skills from India on lower wages depressing wages down the chain further. Tice, Sunak and Farage all pedal low tax low regulatory supply side economics as did Cameron which has resulted in economic stagnation and negative wage growth and more right wing will see more stagflation
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  1307.  @LandRover300  since when we've had hard right wing economic policies for 12 years Low tax for the rich and businesses high tax for the workers running down physical and social infrastructure to get us to the current shyte state
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  1308. what like the 3.5 million the tories get from the fossil lobby or the 100 billion in tax breaks that's wrapped around this
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  1309. Why so many touting REFORM? There rebadged Thatcherite economic policies are equally as toxic as the Tories if not worse? When Thatcherism is whats causing the majority of the countries problems voting for more extreme Thatcherism is dumb
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  1310. There isn't even a charge if your vehicle meets emission standards which is post 2014/5 vehicle I'm an asthma sufferer this is the way to go most final mile delivery vehicles will be EV within 3-4 years The only real argument is when it's implemented as in giving people an extra year to comply
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  1311.  @chrishart8548  vans are same as cars 2014/5 if it isn't its old stock registered and been stood after its come off the production line.
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  1312. This only came up because Bozo was sponging off the state and getting them to pay legal bills so the Cabinet Office had to review all relevant documents. Its totally self inflicted by greed
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  1313.  @christinerussell113  we don't have a shortage of land, there are numerous disused ww2 airfields for a start all in green belt. The way to grow more food is cheap energy glass houses and hydroponics
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  1314.  @christinerussell113  well that's a silly comment now isn't it. Aside from the fact that Brexit was always going to increase migration what's your beef?
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  1315.  @timg1246  Eperts told you migration would go up with loosing FOM in 2016 and oh look they were correct. 50% of the visas are for dependants and there all now permenant something that wasn't the case with FOM. As for politicians being weak we have an economy that depends heavily on migrant labour switching it off without chenging economic policies would just stagnated it further.
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  1316.  @christinerussell113  you benefitted too in 2016 30% of your assets were wiped out when our currency fell. What drives migration is economic policy if you want to lower it tighten worker regulation and invest in the domestic workforce. FOM allowed businesses to expand and contract in all sorts of areas such as crop harvesting, major construction works. Now we have to dole out permanent visas We always had the ability to control migration while in the EU we chose not to do it.
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  1317.  @christinerussell113  FOM wasn't the cause of over 1 million gig workers coming to the UK on Zero Hour contracts it was a political decision by Cameron not to implement Labour laws which would have outlawed or controlled the flow. It was Osborne decision to cut nursing and doctors training places and also depressing public sector pay that has lead to huge number of foreign nationals in the NHS. There were a huge range of other ways to control flow but non were taken in fact the Conservatives continued to the end promoting policies which would lead to more migration not less. FOM was never the problem
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  1318.  @timg1246  they issued them because we needed the workers for the economy. That number is up on pre Brexit totals because of dependents which made up 50% of the total. I've explained why we need them when reffering to the NHS you can't simply switch it off a Nurse takes 4 years to train a Doctor 7. A decision that was taken over a decade ago will now take over a decade to reverse lowering the need for migrant labour in the NHS.
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  1319.  @timg1246  we didn't need extra people we got them because if you hire from 2000 miles away they want to fetch there dependants, wives kids husbands etc. Your also stuck with them People coming from the EU were statistically younger single and would move on they weren't tied to staying indefinitely.
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  1320.  @timg1246  that's easy because they are coming from 2000 miles away as well not the EU so fetch thier dependants. The universities rely on funding from foreign students or they'd go bust. This is a screw up entirely of the Cons making there is no easy way out of this
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  1321.  @christinerussell113  which bit about it's economics do you not UNDERSTAND? it's taken us 50 years to get to this point how do you expect it to be reversed in a whim. This is a feature of Thatcherism IT IS NOT A BUG You have had low tax for 50 years now your complaining?
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  1322. That's because the voter base is men +50 low education and white, there fairly well spread out If you want to win elections you need proper policies and a broader appeal
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  1323. It's offshore owned and run to push biilionare interests
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  1324. GB News are just trying to stir up Transphobia because ratings
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  1325. It's 5% of the population get real
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  1326.  @jeremyhards1911  you find it funny your so easily manipulated by the media?
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  1327. @jeremyhards1911  gbnews is owned by offshore billionaire interests with connections to the Legatum institute a Libertarian think tank in the same orbit as the heritage foundation. They push climate denial and other policthat help the global corporate elite They use wedge issues to piggy back ontop of thier economic agenda of low to no tax for the elite and corporations and no regulatory implications so they can polute as they please and no Unions driving up workers wages and benifits. So a 5% Muslim population against a backdrop of insatiable corporate media capture and greed I know what is more concerning to me
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  1328.  @jeremyhards1911  GBN is owned by an offshore billionaire with connections to the Libertarian think tank Legatum which is associated with the Heritage Foundation. These are the Elites of the world that don't want to pay tax and wish to pollute as they please.
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  1329. There was never anything wrong with FOM in Cameron we just had a government that allowed low paid zero hour GiG recruitment from eastern europe in the millions at the same time they gutted public services shrinking the economy
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  1330. We're laughing at you Nige your a complete clown act who doesn't know what he's talking about
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  1331. Tax cuts dont generate growth We have 50 years of data telling us that. So nothing to do with timing just no one was prepared to lend her 130 billion on a guaranteed failure
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  1332. Patel Johnson Raab Javid Sunak etc. Are all children of immigrants As is the Queen and most of the Royal family Just pack in with the bollox arguments
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  1333. Why would you vote REFORM their Tory with added be evil to refugees Their economic policy is a cut and Paste from Lettuce Liz You remember her the one that single handily nearly crashed all UK pension companies and left a 60 billion hole in UK finances while bumping up interest rates by 1.5 points?
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  1334. He was getting the Cabinet office to pay his legal bills so all relevant documents went to the cabinet office for revue any criminal activity found by a Civil Servant MUST be immediately reported to the Police
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  1335. how will they make it worse? Tax base has been 33% for 2 decades till Sunak took charge it's now 37% and rising There is no historical data to back your claim
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  1336. It's easy you make grand statements on tax which would cost 100+ billion and blag your way through then claim the deep state thwarted me when it all goes tits up
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  1337. Brothers of Italy Fratelli d'Italia Ideology National conservatism Right-wing populism Neo-fascism Political position Right-wing to far-right So there not allowed to tell the truth now? Bloody typical of this station
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  1338. If your going to replace demand for Doctors and Nurses from abroad you need to invest in the UK population and it will take near on a decade to repair 13 years of damage, there is no quick easy solution to institutional vandalism at this level @kevtheargonut 
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  1339. Why are we asked to subsidise each private pupil to the tune of 6K taxpayers money is better pent elsewhere
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  1340. Tax at 90% as it was then is different to tax at virtually zero which it is now
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  1341. Reform are a vehicle for billionaires who want to stop the transition to an energy independent economy GBN is owned by a Libertarian billionaire with links to various think tanks funded by the fossil lobby and the migration stuff is a grift
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  1342. A party supported by the billionaire class run by an elite millionaire is going to do what for the general public?
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  1343.  @WookiRahh  Reform are backed by the Billionaire class don't hold your breath GBN and TalkTV are both subsidised by Libertarian Billionaires who have an agenda
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  1344. Farage is only popular with 20% at most the rest of the country hates him, thats proven in survey and polls
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  1345.  @swellerbunion8867  our expected GDP is less by 5.5% GDP which is 44 billion less in tax receipts therefore you have to raise taxes to plug the hole Also successive Tory governments have failed to deal with our debt Debt to GDP 2006 40% 2010 62% 2019 92% 2022 99% 2023 projected 103% The chief culprit is Tory economic mismanagement Brexit acts like an economic multiplier it would be bad anyway but Brexit gives it a good push over the edge
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  1346. You subsidies rail so it takes goods and people off the roads, less traffic on the roads means greater productivity for the economy less money spent on large road infrastructure and repairs better for the environment with less pollution in city's
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  1347.  @shadrana1  you mean the Windmill nonsense that has a contract price of a fifth of the current OffGem spot price? Or the NHS which is 35% cheaper than Germany's The Tories are trying to run it into the ground so they can claim it doesn't work and flog it to their mates
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  1348.  @shadrana1  it's not a subsidy it's a tax on fossil and it's used to improve insulation on pensioners homes plus its less than the giveaway tax cut to bankers in the last budget. Your only bitching about because fossil lobby Farage has poked your cage, every day the fossil lobby can slow down renewables is millions more trousered at everyone expense
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  1349.  @leighchristopherson2455  I worked in IT when I first started working on computers the entire floor of a house had less proccesing power than a modern day phone
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  1350.  @Bobisalive  you have hardline Thatcherite economics with added trickledown, a bill that bans protests another bill that bans strikes a Rwanda bill that says black is white How right do you want to go?
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  1351. Energy costs have tripled because of our reliance on GAS, renewable sources were already cheapest on the Grid back in 2019 Switching would reduce costs but then Energy companies wouldn't be able to scalp 140 billion out of the UK market in Excess profits
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  1352. Good hope you canvass round near me I'd be quite happy to explain what complete BS merchants these people are in detail
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  1353. Why would he comment on policing?
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  1354. Why are Labour worse than the Tories? For a start they'd spend the 1/2 billion wasted on RWANDA on something useful like replacing RAAC and this is just a scare story to get you to vote Con
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  1355. Older working class men have moved to a BNP UKIP nationalist agenda wowed by the simplicity of the message It's all Johnny foreigners fault so let's blame the EU Which is all a complete lie but pump enough GBNews TalkRadio into them and they'll believe anything
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  1356. so this is how much standard of living is falling on average and displays the CON that is the Tories taken from ONS data 1990 £32,638 2010 £38,263 +17.2% 2015 £36,507 -4.6% 2019 £37,247 -2.7% 2023 £34,963 -6.1%  @timwoodger7896 
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  1357. Rwanda was always an illegal show Pony to divert the gullible into thinking they could do something and distract attention away from the post Brexit economy circling the drain. Meanwhile the government wastes 3-5 billion sat on its arse doing nothing while people on here wang on about Rwanda your mugs the lot of you
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  1358. Habib and the rest of the Brexit Ultra's don't have a clue how international trade works and the importance of tariff free paperwork free red tape free VAT harmonised trade is or appear to grasp that it's costing over 40 billions in lost taxation alone and strangling small business growth who employ 60% of the UK workforce.
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  1359. a man who loves money our Nige is bought and paid for by the oligarch class
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  1360. No we don't they offshore most of the tax breaks and lock it up in fixed assets, it then no longer circles round the economy in a cycle of tax and spend creating GDP Trickle down doesn't work
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  1361. You need the migration if you run Supply Side Trickle Down Economics aka Thatcherism If you want to cut immigration you shouldn't vote for right wing parties there economic low tax low regulation model uses migrant labour to feed it To cut the need for migrant labour you need to change the economic model and invest in the UK and its workforce such as modern transport links free University
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  1362. Your tax burden is up by 1800 due to fiscal drag Cutting taxes doesn't cure RAAC in schools low pay in nursing NHS waiting lists congested transport systems lack of housing etc etc
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  1363. No it wouldn't nearly 40% of the NHS is outsourced. 10% of its admin budget is spent dealing with Private entities. Nurse pay has fallen in real terms by 30% since 2010. That affects the wider economy the restaurant they go to gets less visits the extension they need for the second kid gets delayed and pressure is on the builders to keep prices low. A privatized system would add +50% to the costs and the Government will still have to pay for the millions of Pensioners @alastairharris1866 
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  1364. Since when? The unprecedented 2 trillion investment over 10 years is renewing infrastructure and rewiring the US economy away from fossil fuels. small business Incorporation is at record levels Business profits are at record levels and employment is also at at record levels. Over 1 million manufacturing jobs have been reshored. Debt to GDP is down from its 2020 high of 132% to 120% 3rd Quarter growth was +4.9% GDP overall 2023 growth is expected to be 3%. + Inflation is down to below 3% with the Fed talking rate cuts this year. @jamonit7169 
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  1365. The 2 Trillion investment over 10 years is already reaping huge rewards for the US economy Their leading the G7 in economic performance with 4.9% GDP growth in the 3rd Quarter of 2023 over 14 million jobs created with 1 million manufacturing jobs reshored, small business incorporation at record levels and the US energy infrastructure is moving to renewable at a record pace. @jamonit7169 
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  1366. I voted for a Labour Mayor and lib dem mp Why would I feel guilty, the Tories are completly dysfunctional Labour have already deported 10,000 illeagal migrants which is more than the Tories did in the whole of 2023 Our economy is completly fked with brex1t and Truss, effing Sunak cancelling infrastructure projects to fix potholes in London
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  1367. Farage isn't Conservative why would someone on the centre right touch him with a barge pole
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  1368. Define woke To me and most people it means don't be a sexist homophobic racist arsehole So what's your point
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  1369.  @walsingham-xxiii  there's a fair old brain drain when the software company I used to work for relocated to Holland in 2019 a 1/4 of thee staff went over a few moved to the States and quite a few retired early like me. You can get a visa pretty easily for quite a few professions not that I'd need one Father was Polish settled in the UK after the war I got an EU passport last year.
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  1370.  @markohenry5891  no they haven't Type "ft uk business investment" into Google then click images, business investment has fallen off a cliff The reason is the bulk of our manufacturing small and large has a supply chain going through the EU and a market dominated by sales to the EU or it did have, nearly all our farm and fishery exports where to the EU our fertilisers and chemical components. We have an acute shortage of skilled and unskilled labour with now Stupid Brexit trade barriers the economy outside the City will keep declining there's an FT film on their YouTube channel. Why do you think the Traders told Kwerteng To go swivel over borrowing we have no growth no potential for growth and will be entering a contraction cycle for the foreseeable future.
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  1371.  @firsteerr  which is why the Company was relocating staff before Stupid Brexit came in And it really is Stupid because the things you were promised where never going to happen in fact it was always going to be the reverse. Keep out Johhny foreigner 1 we left the Dublin Accord and multiple other EU bodies and as a 3rd country are on our own over refugees 2 removing EU workers has knackered our economy that much Truss was talking open visas from India as part of her growth plan Sunny uplands and leveling up Brexit was always going to shrink the UK economy a by a large chunk the Brexiteers didn't want to talk about the estimate is 4/5% gdp or 40 billion less in tax revenue or 120 billion in lost economic activity and the economic pain is ongoing
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  1372. In what way? Tice was banging on about nuclear power the other day while Hinkley C is years late (>12 years in constr5) and the energy it produces will be x 3 of the cost of the last wind farm auction.
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  1373. You get propaganda free for on here BBC has real news and isn't owned. By off shore enteties pushing billionaire class priorities
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  1374. Farmers are going bankrupt thanks to Tory brexit
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  1375. Not if your dying because you can't get NHS treatment
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  1376. if you kept up with the tech renewables reached parity with gas on energy costs back in 2019 and EV's achieved cost parity with ICE this year and that's before economies of scale kick in. We have the worst insulated housing stock in Europe and the offer is what exactly get everyone up to A+ standards and save consumers 100's of billions? No way Tice's attitude is working people can fk off and keep paying outrageous amounts to the energy companies cos we don't care were not going to regulate to improve your life and wellbeing
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  1377. That's just putting it into the hands of elite global Billionaires
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  1378.  @0019808  you voted Thatcherism you got it full fat get over it More Thatcherism more imigration that's how it works
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  1379. @mleh-qx8mo  if you run supply side trickle down economics low tax and low regulation you don't train your local workforce because that costs money you use it for tax cuts instead import skilled workers while your domestic unskilled workers do low paid jobs Aka Thatcherism + a points based immigration system
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  1380.  @simonkramer9463  Because you can't retrospectively raise taxation, there is 1.5 trillion in off book savings. If you tried it would spook markets and this labour government needs stable markets Remember what happened with Truss, Reeve is a creature from the BOE
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  1381.  @LondonMoneyCashEnterprise  and your problem with labour is what? Tax should have gone up in 2010, the Tories have completely stagnated the economy then kicked it in the head when it was down with Brex1t and Truss
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  1382. Net Zero reduces Energy costs by switching away from GAS Energy costs 2020 to UK consumers 30 Billion Energy costs 2023 to UK consumers 170 Billion I make that 140 Billion reasons to go renewable don't you? That 140 billion comes out of Consumers pockets the estimated cost of net zero implementation is 40 Billion a Year a net saving overall
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  1383. That figure is wrong dunno which fossil lobby site you plucked that out of Quote The OBR concludes: the debt impact of future volatility in gas prices is at 13% of the UK gross domestic product (GDP) to 2050. This dwarfs the debt impact of 6% of GDP for investing in net zero. Second, it investigates the potential of new, growing energy solutions to cushion price volatility Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP @thehairygolfer 
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  1384. Yea but my view is renewable is cheaper I've fitted Thermal solar it pays its capital cost in year 8 after that 75% of my hot water is FREE. And that's how net zero stuff works up front capital cost with zero energy input cost @alexedwards6509 
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  1385. @alexedwards6509  I have thermal solar its capital cost is paid for by year 8 at which point I have FREE hot water 75% of the time this is the reality of renewable energy If gas prices and inflation keep going south it will be sooner
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  1386.  @1967deek  the bill sunsets laws by the end of 2023 its a desperate move to try destabilize the UK I presume he's betting against the Pound again with his disaster capitalist mates
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  1387. @barryking3677  no you won't you'll get a government not spending 8 billion on bankers tax breaks a government not giving billions in subsidies to the Fossil industry a government that gives a fk about the NHS Police etc.
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  1388.  @awwasson  Inflation is a product of the 750 billion the Tories spaffed during Covid its trickled up to the Millionaire Billionaire class who doubled their wealth during Covid but were now being asked to pay for it with Fiscal drag. Here's a maths question for you If I build a swimming pool and increase my electricity consumption by £9,000 how many people have to sit in the cold to equal the supply demand curve. The Bank of England can put up interest rates till the cows come home it will have ZERO affect on the Sunak's of this world who really don't care what the borrowing rate is or how much a product costs thus not mitigating their consumption.
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  1389. What like pots of gold at the end of the brex1t rainbow? Or Loose fom and migration will go down?
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  1390. tax base under the last Labour government was 33% it stayed that way till Sunak took charge and will rise to 37% by 2027 (currently 35%) were also taxing work and not taxing wealth Hence Sunak only pays 21p in the £ on tax and voted to bring down CGT to 20% in 2016 One thing that desperately needs changing is council tax and business rates fairer share have proposed a land /property value tax quote According to research commissioned by Fairer Share, a campaign to abolish council tax, an average home in Easington valued at £88,000 could pay £1,498.53 a year in council tax – equating to 1.7% of the property value. An average home in Westminster valued at £1.2m would pay £1,127.07 a year – which is just 0.09% of the value of the property.  joce11 
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  1391. she's not woke or a lefty your perception of politics is completely warped by following this populist trash its not news and it isn't owned by anyone in GB Dan Wooton is ex Sun the toilet of news
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  1392.  @linzianderton2090  they wouldn't be worse you muppet they have a skills education and housing plan as well as a childcare plan Open your eyes You don't cure the imigration and economic problems we have with TAX CUTS
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  1393.  @linzianderton2090  n they wouldn't our current system of being cruel and incompetent is costing us 4 billion a year
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  1394.  @jennifersanders7764  reform have nearly the same economic policies that drive legal migration how does that work?
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  1395. It's the elites trying to scare you because Labour will have to rip out the Trickle down cr*p that lets them pay little to no tax
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  1396. Thatcherism is the root cause of increased legal migration and the failing economy so your in for a shock if Reform did get in.
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  1397. Thats a pretty low bar Both are promoted by the Billionaire class owning media who want low taxes on themselves deregulation so they can polute without consequence and maintain fossil fuels because god forbid we become energt independent ​ @countfosco8535 
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  1398. What's wrong with wanting cleaner energy its cheaper and doesn't involve huge tax subsidies to global corporations When's the last time BP or Shell paid any uk taxes?
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  1399.  @thedave7760  Since when renewables have been the cheapest source of electricity on the Grid since 2019 the only thing holding it back is lack of investment in the grid which needs upgrading anyway
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  1400.  @g8ymw  The green levy doesn't go to renewable energy companies shows how much you know about the grid and the OffGem market. 1st off forward contract price for wind energy dropped to 38p per kilowatt hour in 2019 during the past decade the cost of renewables has dropped by 95%. We only have 17% wind capacity even without mass storage we could run 40/50% 2nd on a bad wind day that TOTAL UK capacity drops to 10% from 17% peak On cost Nuclear is around 100p per kilowatt hour as is Coal and Gas is currently the most expensive. Currently the windfall tax that Sunak put in the renewable energy companies pay the most and there was a 6 billion tax break for fossil in the last budget Quote Chancellor Jeremy Hunt announced that renewable electricity generators will face a 45% windfall tax from January 2023 until March 2028. By comparison, the windfall tax for the oil and gas sector will be set at a lower rate of 25% to 35% Why are they facing a large windfall tax because the market is screwed and fixed for fossil providers
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  1401. all he did was stick the Tory party together to gain power his deal was a PR exercise hence the complete giveaway of NI and then he promised whatever the various Tory factions wanted they could have English Nationalist - No Immigration Leveling Up Libertarian - Compete deregulation unlimited immigration The guy would say anything to anyone to survive the next news cycle
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  1402. ​ @EagleBill1 don't delude yourself Reform are Tory + a bit more deluded
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  1403. Starmer is targeting the smugglers not the smuggled cooperating with the people who run the border on the other side reclassifying people smugglers in the same light as organised crime and seizing their assets plus getting rid of the backlog that's costing us 8 billion The Tories offer is to shout a lot about the smuggled as if that will bring down the numbers hint it won't
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  1404. My vote is for Murdoch make him supreme being so his acolytes can rejoice in his toxic spew cut out the Tory and Republican middle men @juliegregory3900 
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  1405. SIPPS are exempt from IHT, you get a 325,000 allowance + 175,000 with property so 500,000 each from me and my wife + our pension pots. Your also allowed to push 40% of your salary tax and NI free into a SIPP so for high earners like me and my wife we've both taken advantage of the allowances. Bought our house in 1985 its been mortgage free for 20+ years Quote Under new rules for SIPP Inheritance, it is possible to pass your pension pot on to your beneficiaries without being liable for tax. If you die before the age of 75, and the funds are transferred or designated within two years of your death, the inheritance will be tax-free. @CastleHassall 
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  1406. No they don't the Tories gutted the environment agency there's litter to no enforcement
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  1407.  @S-North  that's because the bulk of older male voters are susceptible to populist propaganda and believe the lies about migration from populist nut jobs So Right wing populist position Global Britain = unfettered migration Stop The Boats = limiting migration Basically you can't have low tax low regulation economy without access to a Supply side cheap labour pool which is now coming from India the Boats thing is purley a dog and pony show for the masses
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  1408. Bet Tice and Farage forgot to tell you that Legal migration is down to right wing economic policy and they have zero chance of lowering it?
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  1409. The EU zone is bigger now than before we left so its already increased by 2 trillion we on the other hand have a completely stagnant economy
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  1410. Tories shouldn't have given a 20 billion unfunded tax cut with NI to the middle class to try bribe there way back into power then?
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  1411. HMRC which is run by the Tories have cleared her your getting a bit desperate aren't you a sale from 2008 going through all her old social media posts to try make a non story have some legs?
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  1412. Maybe he's just sticking to an agreement signed by the tosser in Chief Boris You know the oven ready one that put a border down the Irish sea
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  1413. The story is BS they want you to vote TORY for more trickle down millionaire pensioner tax breaks. Its a rounding up the sheep story😅
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  1414. @Holcroft1969 Reform = fantasy Trussanomics Show pony migration policy youth indoctrination with Her Farage's British Values and removing your Human rights Oh and turning the North into an unlivable industrial zone with fracking
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  1415. Mortgages for benefits claimants has sub prime lending written all over it
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  1416. 90% of ehicles are already compliant of which the bulk of those that are not are Diesel
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  1417. Renewable will save you money on your energy bill. There also going to push retrofit insulation which agawill save you money
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  1418.  @johnh1872  all of what you've just said is mostly rubbish. I've a net worth including all assets of around 2 Mill I pay very little tax don't have an accountant and what I do pay is at 20%. Sunak paid 20% on the bulk of his income via CGT all legal. Middle class and lower class are subsidising this and have been on an increasing scale since 2010. What's worse is there now making you poorer on an industrial scale last year the top 100 ceo got 22.5% pay rise the energy sector will make 170 billion in excess profits. The tax system is rigged for the rich to get rich
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  1419.  @entropy5431  Its 38% & that includes the NHS /Schools and Pensions You also have infrastructure transport police army. The right wings version of tax cuts is tax cuts for the rich They will never cut taxes for the low /middle paid it always has a disproportionately bad affect at the bottom
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  1420.  @entropy5431  the Tories have been busy Shrinking the economy everything is relative? Too high for what Exactly brexit has cost a small fortune as well as the pandemic? If you run down service levels things don't work they then inflict economic damage which further suppresses productivity
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  1421.  @robbeales5516  You pay more in Tax under a regressive system with front loading on purchase taxes such as VAT at 20% property taxes than you would do with Progressive taxation which is income /asset based
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  1422. Of course she is denying it and the why is straight from the Top they don't want to spend any money that may reduce their ability to try a tax cutting bribe athon to get reelected
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  1423. Reform pedal the same Thatcherite trickle down nonsense the Tories are enacting so why bother switching from 1 bunch of useless elites to another
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  1424. why they get the old fart vote already current polling shows only 8% of the under 50's supporting the Con's
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  1425. Yet but whoever is is delivering an economic boom
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  1426. So who then a National Populist party with empty short term popular solutions to problems that will make the problems worse given that they have been decades in the making? Our borrowing is currently at near 100% of GDP the IMF have recommended a wealth ta for countries to re-balance their books post covid, is anyone talking about it NO what we have is hikes in personal taxation and a tax cut for bankers
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  1427. If the world switches to renewables it will save trillions of dollars as well as reduce polution across the globe. There are numerous studies out there as wind and solar have been the cheapest on the grid since 2019 We spend huge sums subsidising fossil extraction and even more on environmental clean up Also 40% of shipping is dedicated to moving fossil fuel around The fossil lobby are terrified there huge global profits will go
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  1428. ​ @DDDoo-p7r and labour will what? Improve schools so pupils aren't in portacabins what's wrong with that?
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  1429. Their debt to GDP has gone down from 132% in 2020 to 121% now borrowing levels are irrelevant, everything is connected to the size of your economy and the ability to pay Ours has gone up from 97% to 100% in the same period
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  1430. GBN a propaganda channel carrying water for billionaire friendly economic policy, its owner has connetions to the Legatum institute which has ties to US Libertarian climate denying think tanks
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  1431. Im sure there well aware that Reforms 100+ billion in unfunded tax cuts with zero migration isnt more cake and eat it fantasy policy ​ @michaelcoward1902 
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  1432. Brexit is an economic train wreck and is responsible for larger net migration due to increased dependants and refugees due to leaving joint agreements
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  1433. And why is that then? It will ruin their economic plans and spell certain annihilation of the party in the next election so put that in the bin with your other musings
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  1434. Why do rich have a right to become even richer at our expense adding no value to the economy The tax they save goes either offshore or into assets removing it from the economy Trickle down doesn't work this so called golden shower is little more than a dribble
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  1435. I'm happy
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  1436. The ECHR is the last resort against government overreach why would you give it up?
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  1437. You sound like someone with Stockholm syndrome this is the first Parliament in history where people's living standards will be lower at it's end than at it's start
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  1438. Quote The OBR concludes: the debt impact of future volatility in gas prices is at 13% of the UK gross domestic product (GDP) to 2050. This dwarfs the debt impact of 6% of GDP for investing in net zero. Second, it investigates the potential of new, growing energy solutions to cushion price volatility.25 Jul 2023 Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP.
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  1439. You can't argue with the Numbers, renewable energy price wise was on par with gas back in 2019 since the crisis its been by far the cheapest energy source on the grid. the 140 billion in excess profits V 48 billion per year in Renewable infrastructure rollout. at the end of 10 years your not tied to gas or oil world commodity prices and your back to pre crisis price levels @Jack-fs2im 
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  1440. The cost of net zero is around 48 billion a year the cost of not going net zero is 140 billion a year. You achieve net zero by a whole host of technologies one is distributed manufacture and storage of energy. ex home solar + an EV using smart technology to use the EV battery for localised grid stability while charging it off peak. Another vital cog is insulation I've just done an extension and refurb to A+ standard heating went off in April still hasn't been needed bar a couple of nights in the TV room this month. that's only coz my mrs I'd quite happily sit in a room at 19 rather than 21  @tecnomagos.l.2684 
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  1441. Current estimate is a -6% hit to gdp and rising due to leaving the single market In context that's 60 billion in lost tax revenues
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  1442. No they won't and you know it
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  1443. Why is the Labour Party the Lib-Dem Party and the Greens unelectable? We've had 12 years of economic stagnation culminating in the current bunch who are even worse than Cameron and May For the record Average wage growth under Blaire / Brown +25% Average wage growth under Cameron / May -3% Under Johnson its projected to be -3/4% with 8% inflation on what planet is the alternative worse?
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  1444. They were a rave, rave's don't count or maybe you get special dispensation for Karaoke
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  1445. Their a tiny fraction of Legal ones around 62,000 a year and there refugees until their claim gets rejected at which point there illegal and deported If you want to reduce legal migration you need to invest in UK workers which they have said they will do by debt forgiveness of University fees for NHS workers. This will over time reverse importing Nigerian and Indian Nurses and their partners
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  1446. In what way would labour destroy the country? Thier main aim appears to be to cut out all the Tory waste and tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations and funnel it into improving services and infrastructure How does making things better for the average person destroy the country?
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  1447. This comment just shows the crass level of stupidity in the English Voter. Central government (The Tories) have cut local budgets by 40% and sold off most of the council housing stock asset stripping councils at the same time. Councils then have to make draconian cuts to services and IF your a Labour Council in an URBAN area you have High levels of poverty requiring BY LAW you have to provide various services one of them is HOUSING. Instead of using your housing stock and get rent you now have to use an ever increasing amount of your Budget to rent from the Private sector. THAT'S WHY THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE IN URBAN AREAS GREEDY TORIES SCREWING THE SYSTEM FOR ALL THEY CAN  @andyroberts8754 
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  1448. We don't need rich people there a burden not contributors. They get massive tax breaks and filter the money off shore which does NOTHING for the economy. They buy Mayfair apartments again which pushes money into assets where its sits doing NOTHING for the economy For money to be of use to the UK government it needs to go round in a Tax and Spend circle generating GDP in the process. If its not doing that it might as well not exist due to it being a sunk cost so kick them out as far as I'm concerned @andyroberts8754 
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  1449.  @andyroberts8754  you don't need rich people there an economic drain The money they get in tax cuts gets off shored or put into assets removing it from the everyday economy It's the everyday economy that creats gdp which in turn creates taxation the government could use to spend on services
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  1450.  @andyroberts8754  if you reduce council budgets by 40% asset strip Council housing you'll get Urban decay and councils living hand to mouth trying to house people and run services Urban councils need more money because they have more poverty and more need for social housing but they get the same The level of disconnect to blame a Tory problem on labour is staggering
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  1451. what's your point I heard him on the radio this morning and fully agree with him this has nothing to do with what other countries do this is the quote Keir Starmer was quick to stress that the party has no “settled policy” during a phone-in on LBC radio this morning, but set out the case for widening the franchise to both groups. Starmer noted that EU nationals are already permitted to take part in local elections. “If someone has been here say ten, 20, 30 years, contributing to this economy, part of our community, they ought to be able to vote”. Starmer said EU citizens he had spoken to on the doorstep made that point. “That feels wrong, and something ought to be done about it.” On votes at 16 and 17, Starmer argued it was not such an “outlandish idea” given that it is already permitted in Wales and Scotland.
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  1452. they have a 10% shortfall on staff if they weren't public sector workers they'd be paid more its called supply and demand something the Tories are supposed to believe in free markets and all My mum had to wait for an ambulance before xmas for 5 hours with no strike Tory fkin shambles
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  1453. we have an energy crisis which needs investment in and REFORM are promising to lower taxes for the wealthy how does that work? If you pump 28 billion into renewable energy it has an economic multiplier of a minimum 1.6 which means for every £1 you put in it creates enough GDP to return £1.6 in additional taxation. As a pensioner this will help me enormously because it will lower energy costs and I'm home most of the day far more than any tax cut. Getting energy costs down to 2020 levels would be the equivalent to me of my tax going from 20% to 10%
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  1454. Your wrong, if you increase Renewable energy you decrease GAS usage + moving to Renewable sources needs associated battery storage which replace Peak demand Gas Plants (One has just been commissioned in East Yorkshire to support Dogger Bank Wind Farm.) Battery storage is fully computerised an installation has just opened up in California quote The Astonishing Economics of the Tesla Megapack By adding about 300 MW of storage, ERCOT will generate approximately $1 billion in savings in 2025. This is from a one time purchase of Megapacks for $750 million. These savings will also happen each additional year after 2025 - they are recurring!  @1carusjohn32 
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  1455. If you move to a renewable grid its supported by battery storage moving away from Gas Peak Plants which set the wholesale price Installation of supporting Tesla MegaPacks use software to to manage Grid smoothing, have next to no moving parts and are unmanned saving billions if they were installed now. We have one just being commissioned to support Dogger Bank Quote from the US The Astonishing Economics of the Tesla Megapack By adding about 300 MW of storage, ERCOT will generate approximately $1 billion in savings in 2025. This is from a one time purchase of Megapacks for $750 million. These savings will also happen each additional year after 2025 - they are recurring!  @1carusjohn32 
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  1456. There from the ONS so even with government massaging their bad so no there not false. Also our currency has dropped by 5% against the Euro since we left s its actually a lot worse than the ONS figures @hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo 
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  1457. your picking 1 quarter out of 14 years of data and were barely treading water and claiming a win? Our economy since 2010 has been stagnant Germany's grew by 15% Our average wages since 2010 to 2023 have gone gown by -6.1% Germany's has risen by 14% @timg1246 
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  1458.  @ancietman  and you'll want it as well its called trade gravity, especially after another couple of years of high taxes and zero growth weakening currency and high inflation
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  1459. ​@jamessouth3808 no it won't why would you give that amount of power to a party that didn't represent the majority. The ECHR was set up after the war to combat the rise of fascism error like what's happening now
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  1460. They have given them huge tax breaks over the years which have been ploughed into assets, it's got to a stage where they can spend 100's of millions and not even touch their wealth capital
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  1461.  @baronsilverbaron757  why not make a serious comment
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  1462. Wouldn't mattered who was in charge because Brexit is an economic train wreck and 50 years of asset stripping Thatcherism has run out of road. Trickle down Austerity Brexit non of them are viable long term economic policies
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  1463. ULEZ standard for cars is 2008 for diesel its pre 2014
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  1464. Libertarians are deluded the main policies are pushed by the big special interests who see a killing in a deregulated market where they can poison without recourse asset strip without rules and they use the libertarian banner to pump out propaganda. Pseudo libertarian policies brought about the near collapse of the world banking system in 2008
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  1465. They probably are but the mess the Tories left will never be fully fixed
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  1466. GBN is a opinion station at best most of the time it spews libertarian propaganda
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  1467. what reality are you living in? why should ordinary working people subsidise the wealthy?
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  1468.  @oliverearnshaw6189  Since when? Back in the UK battery prices and panel prices have plummeted and both are Zero Rated for VAT if done as an install. Plus Our energy prices are sky high for standard rate, if you have an EV you can get electricity 70% cheaper on an overnight tariff and the daily feed in tariff is double that. Your living in the past
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  1469. We don't have an election till 2029 how's that work?
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  1470. It was just all talk for muppets like you to vote for the Conservatives
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  1471. Right wing economics got us here and you want more extreme Right wing economics How does that work exactly? If you don't invest in training up Nurses you need to import them, if your not in the EU they fetch their dependants with them it's not rocket science
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  1472. He got people kill on j6th and ruined 100s of people's lives because he couldn't admit defeat He's also responsible for Fake elector schemes in multiple States
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  1473. They never had trust in him the Cons never had a majority the fpp system institutionalised minority rule
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  1474. there are 19 other cases in progress Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3) The guy is a walking crime wave
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  1475. Stopping the strikes by increasing pay in line with inflation is hardly radical
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  1476. what's taking a job got to do with an impartial investigation? She will have been head hunted for the appointment with a fairly heft salary increase in Labour's anticipation of being able to hit the ground running if they get elected Did she vomit on the carpet at no10 after an all nighter have an ABBA party get that rip roaring drunk that she broke a child's swing And why aren't you mad at Lord Frost taking a job with the Con party?
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  1477. Reform are Libertarian free market fundamentalist, they don't want to conserve anything The same policies that drive immigration in the 1st place
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  1478. Not true the main issue we have is Fossil inflation + Inflation caused by Brexit Norway doesn't have fossil inflation and its not shot itself in both feet by erecting trade barriers with its closest neighbours and it has 3%
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  1479. So saying don't behave like a fascist asshole is now controversial? Migration is just a tool they use to rile up the proles it gives them something to blame while the real crimes are under their nose the government thieving taking away people's rights torpedoeing services and selling them off cheap to their mates
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  1480. Yea you can put booze as a contributing factor
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  1481. If your deluded enough to believe in fantasy economics and fantasy immigration policies then why even bother? You can't compete against a Party with zero morals who promise the undeliverable and spout complete BS
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  1482. a term called fiscal drag your allowances are staying the same inflation goes up 700 billion went into the economy over covid it all trickled up millionaire billionaire wealth doubled the fix is a wealth tax to pull it out
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  1483. Under Blair / Brown we had +25% wage growth and +3 million in immigration under the last 13 years of Tory rule we've had + 5 million, the expansion of zero hours contracts with multinationals recruiting gig jobs from abroad and disposable income has fallen We are paying 140 billion in Excess profits for energy a move to net zero would save us 7% of our GDP bringing bills down to 2021 levels of 30 billion
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  1484. How much do they have to steal from the working people to pay for tax breaks for the wealthy and how bad do the services have to be to be a true conservative?
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  1485. Its 9 million and the bulk of those are on in work benefit housing benefit free school meals etc.
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  1486. Let them work get them processed so 40,000 can be deported Our economy is on its knees because of right wing economic policies and burning through 3-4 billion because I dunno a migrant purity test is fkin insane
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  1487. since when supply side reform would bankrupt nearly all SME's and farmers flooding the UK with low quality cheap imports
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  1488. Net zero targets aren't an issue wind is the cheapest source of electricity production in the UK by a country mile Forward price of Dogger Bank Offshore wind is £40 per kilowatt hour the OffGem spot price is well over £200 at 5 times the cost. The problem is the usual short term Conservative policies for example there's been no new Nuclear put on the table during the Con 12 year reign and they've vetoed every tidal project. The fossil companies will put out all sorts of bollox to slow renewable transition down including funnelling cash to our Nige here
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  1489. It was just a flag to rally round it was never meant to go ahead only Johnson was stupid enough to go full leave for political gain
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  1490. How much do they have to steal from the working people to pay for tax breaks for the wealthy and how bad do the services have to be to be a true conservative?
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  1491.  @nihilistlivesmatter  what's a criminal offence? Inadvertently not paying tax is something you negotiate with HMRC ask Jeremy Hunt the current Chancellor or is there a different rule if your working class? Hunt said his failure to declare a business interest with both Companies House and the parliamentary register of MPs' interests was down to "honest administrative mistake"
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  1492.  @nihilistlivesmatter  keep tugging the forelock and getting gaslight by the Elite and wealthy. It gives the rest of us a laugh if nothing else
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  1493. So what you want is the trade barrier to Europe fully implemented even though at 50% its killing our economy and driving inflation through the roof?
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  1494. There's no money debt to GDP is 100% and there borrowing 130 billion a year as it is + There is no way of growing the economy given were saddled with Brexit trade restrictions
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  1495. Southampton is where you were thinking he was born in Southampton
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  1496.  @dianegriffen2756  what a stupid whataboutism. For a correlation between policy and outcome we need only look at the US if your a Republican your far more likely to die from Covid by a considerable margin than if your a registered Democrat. This ties in with mask mandates closing social venues to vaccine uptake. The more Conservative you are the more likely you will die of covid
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  1497.  @barneymagee3285  There's huge amounts of data and case studies out their from all sorts of academic angles I'm primarily a mathematician and economist. such as this one Quote The data speak: Stronger pandemic response yields better economic recovery Study of 1918 flu pandemic shows U.S. cities that responded more aggressively in health terms also had better economic rebounds. and this one For red and blue America, a glaring divide in COVID-19 death rates persists 2 years later Post-vaccine, death rates in red states were 38% higher than in blue states.
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  1498. What will of the people? When did we have a vote to remove my freedom of movement? It was taken away by a minority government which had zero mandate to do so FY
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  1499.  @richardlewis7498  given that the economic performance of the Conservatives over the last 12 years is the worst in 150 why anyone would vote Tory is beyond me you'd need to be one of the 1% or a masochist. Cameron / May stagnated the economy to a -3% drop in real average wages over 10 years give Boris and Co their due they've added another -3% in 2 and have inflation at 8%
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  1500.  @bobsocks7575  the bulk of them just take British gas for instance 900% increase in profits Due to the way the market works Octopus who supply mainly renewable energy through long term contracts still charge the regulated price making huge profits, the energy market in the UK is completely broken
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  1501.  @bobsocks7575  quote from last year Corey (@soper_mr) asked: "Octopus is putting our prices up, but claim to be 100% renewable. Did the price of wind go up lads? In response, the supplier said it was a fair question that they get asked a lot. The founder of the firm, Greg Jackson, recorded a video to explain the situation. In the two-minute clip, Jackson says: "In the current outdated system, the most expensive type of energy (usually gas) sets the price for ALL types of energy, including renewables. It's bonkers
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  1502. Do you work for the Fossil companies are you a lobbyist? How do you justify this or do you just wilfully tug the forelock for the Tories and their failed economic policies (including privatization) Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP @t-rod4456 
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  1503. In the last 5 years the tax base has shot up from 33% where it was for 2 decades to 38% the question should be how do the Cons p1ss so much money away
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  1504. 70% of counties by GDP in the US voted for Biden, Texas may be governed by the Republicans but it no different to any other part of the US.
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  1505. There is no firm proposal or policy from labour at this point in time on inheritance tax
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  1506.  @LandRover300  she's a site lot brighter than Naddine Dorrie ans she's not in the shadow cabinet any more so what's your point?
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  1507.  @LandRover300  who Dorrie?
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  1508.  @LandRover300  feel free to keep supporting the Tax and waste party highest tax burden since ww2 a decade and a half of Economic stagnation and falling wages and pensions in real terms. A budget for champagne sipping bankers.
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  1509. Why is the Labour Party the Lib-Dem Party and the Greens unelectable? We've had 12 years of economic stagnation culminating in the current bunch who are even worse than Cameron and May For the record Average wage growth under Blaire / Brown +25% Average wage growth under Cameron / May -3% Under Johnson its projected to be -3/4% with 8% inflation on what planet is the alternative worse?
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  1510. current number being talked about is 30,000 but Cooper has quashed the claim that Labour would sign up to it anyway where not part of the EU and cooperating with the people who run the border on the other side reclassifying people smugglers in the same light as organised crime and seizing their assets plus getting rid of the backlog that's costing us 8 billion sounds a better offer than the Cons
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  1511. Economists calculated Covid cost a 1 off 2% GDP for covid related economic activity BREXIT is calculated to be costing 5.5% GDP year on Year which equates to 44 billion less in tax receipts @contemplating1015 
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  1512. Reform pedal the same economic rubbish the Cons do
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  1513. What did you think would happen? Nige has tub thumped the Aus like point system a lot as great and the solution to replace EU workers What the stupid numpty didn't realise was that it would have zero effect on net migration and result in importing workers into middle and higher incomes depressing middle class wages which has a knock on effect of depressing wages down the social chain.
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  1514.  @jacquelineloaring2438  there all right wing populist parties rooted in magic thinking The reason we're in the current mess is short term populist simplistic solutions to comple and extremly interconnected structural ecenomic problems. Ex housing goes back to flogging off all social housing energy crisis has its roots in utility privatisation and strategic decisions by the Cameron govt. There's much worse to come
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  1515. no mate its just brexit is shyte and the muppets pedaling it don't know what there doing
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  1516.  @davidedbrooke9324  we voted to leave the EU not the single market Screwing over our economy was a Tory decision
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  1517.  @davidedbrooke9324  Norway aren't in the EU many Brexiteers where bigging up the virtue of a Norway deal Leaving the single market was never entertained until post vote
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  1518.  @davidedbrooke9324  “Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market” - Daniel Hannan MEP “Only a madman would actually leave the Market” - Owen Paterson MP, Vote Leave backer “Wouldn't it be terrible if we were really like Norway and Switzerland? Really? They're rich. They're happy. They're self-governing” - Nigel Farage, Ukip leader “The Norwegian option, the EEA option, I think that it might be initally attractive for some business people” - Matthew Elliot, Vote Leave chief executive “Increasingly, the Norway option looks the best for the UK” then there's all the lies
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  1519.  @davidedbrooke9324  what us deciding to make our economy 20% smaller is their fault? 2016 UK GDP 90% of Germany's 2022 UK GDP 70% of Germany's 2030 Poland set to overtake us in wealth per person You put your faith in people that were and are complete fkin idiots
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  1520.  @davidedbrooke9324  you people need to wake up and use your brain to work out who has really screwed you over and it's not the EU. Johnson's deal was purely political to stick the Tory party together it had zero regard for the hard working people in this country he didn't give a Toss which businesses he screwed over or how many farmers he forced into bankruptcy. Why do you thing the wheels are coming of in double quick time? Enjoy your Turnip
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  1521. You voted for it And it's +1.25 million
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  1522. Lucky you outside the London South East area we've had economic contraction and the economy is fked. Were not doing better than Germany and France because In 2016 the British economy was 90% the size of Germany's. Now it is less than 70%.” We've has 7 years of contraction and stagnation and your cherry picking a figure to suit a narrative @Roundhead75 
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  1523. It's there to stop the government behaving like fascist twats
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  1524. are people on these boards just a load of nodding dogs, when your leader talks utter cr*p you immediately change your position and start nodding along? Our Nige and the European far right populists have all sorts of connections to the Russian Oligarchs
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  1525.  @msmrepo3271  your not looking after this country though are you all you want to do is shut down dissent I'm 66 my father fought across Europe as a paratrooper to put out the fire of this Nationalist toxic bilge, you and your ilk are strung along like performing monkeys by this crap with your fake patriotism
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  1526.  @garrywynne1218  My point is brexit is an economic disaster of biblical proportions that neuters SME's especially the lifeblood of any economic recovery. What you see is stats based on the service economy of the city while everywhere else is in recession. That recession is pumped up with 1.25 million visas to hide it's impact as gdp per capita falls through the floor lowering everyone's disposable income
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  1527.  @garrywynne1218  we used to have an on demand supply chain as part of the EU, as an SME making value added products you'll get components from all over the place but here's the rub. The bulk of your east Asian supplies get landed in the EU and are distributed from in the EU to outside, there not technically EU products but are part of a multi trillion supply chain. Your goods now are subject to restrictions paperwork and red tape, everything will get more expensive take longer to get and the added value component is now subject to tarrifs if it goes back into the EU as a component for something else. Basically we will be back in some form of single market within 3 election cycles because SME'S can't compete like this and can't grow OR businesses that employ 60% of the population that have integrated supply chains will fold.
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  1528.  @garrywynne1218  FOM was never a problem there was nothing stopping any UK government regulating its own labour market, my brother lives in Norway they have FOM but have low migration because its regulated + has minimum wage & support for domestic workforce to both retrain and relocate. Look in 2010s Cameron made an active choice not to regulate the gig economy, Norway don't have zero hour contracts and any company trading in Norway has to be Norwegian, no off shoring. Uber were actively encouraged to recruit low wage staff on zero hour from Eastern Europe and OffShore profits. A taxi or cab drivers gdp is now undercut his job replaced with all profits going offshore out of the working economy The Conservatives and Reform both support free market deregulated economics People are also quick to blame Blair but he had to move to the centre and adopt the free market ethos of Thatcher to get elected, even then by having a robust minimum wage and an education program we saw immigration but not huge numbers and they were electricians, carpenters general trades people in my neck of the woods.
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  1529.  @garrywynne1218  in your opinion one that isn't backed up by economic data or the wider economic community, all your looking for is confirmation bias you don't care about the 10's of thousands of businesses you ruin or the damage its doing to the country
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  1530. That is nonsense immigration has gone through the roof because of brex1t we told you so in 2018 Historic examples include Britain’s decision to end the unrestricted entry of Commonwealth subjects in the 1960s, Germany’s experience with admitting temporary “guest workers” from the 1960s, and the US ending its labour program for Mexican workers in 1965. Drawing lessons from those experiences, the SMF predicted that ending EU freedom of movement and restricting EU nationals’ right to enter and stay in Britain for work will have precisely the opposite effect on immigration patterns to the one many Brexit supporters say they want.
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  1531. I have a lot of negative views about the Blair / Brown period but overall performance compared to what came before needs looking at in prospective. Osborne really did screw it up and laid the seeds for UKIP. The fundamental problem with the UK economy is Thatcherism. Its what's caused high immigration, lack of investment in skills and training ballooning Energy Costs Sh1t in rivers and a housing crisis caused by Right to buy and the near bankruptcy of 1/3 of English councils  @vincentvangogh8092 
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  1532. when your borrowing is 100% of GDP and you want to borrow 40 billion and simply give it to the rich with no discernible benefit what do you expect No fk off and by the way we don't want some of this debt we already have because your as mad as a box of frogs
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  1533. I get mine for free on the NHS my brother was seriously ill with covid this year funny thing is he decided he didn't need a booster. Has long covid now he should be OK but is recovering really slowly @pjj177 
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  1534. Highly infectious it was and we didn't have enough resources to deal with the numbers if it had just been left to its own devices. Lessons for future should be to make our schools safer instead of disease pits @yesmate78 
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  1535. And your going to what support the Tories? We're in recession, inflation is 4%+ average wages are -7% down from 2010 and portacabins are back in schools taking us back to the Thatcher years
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  1536. @BonusHole  new labour had average growth of 2.5% andwage growth of 20+% Brown's green shoots of recovery were strangled at birth by Osborne's Austerity
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  1537. and cost the treasury around 8 Billion in lost tax receipts why It would destroy the media ecosystem which having a public broadcaster has generated and also increase government spending on education (the BBC produces huge amounts of content for schools and the OU)
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  1538. What uneducated bigoted and gulible?
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  1539. You do know you would be voting for a Libertarian economic agenda that would primarily benefit the Billionaire class and Corporations especially the fossil industry?
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  1540. Brexit is an economic car crash and one of the reasons taxes keep having to go up @kevindare3113 
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  1541. If right wing economic policies are tanking the Economy and are responsible for the high legal immigration numbers why would the UK electorate vote for 5 more years of getting poorer and a completely failed points based system?
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  1542.  @fogellmclovin6278  Dubai hedge fund with links to a fossil lobby think tank also links to billionaire funded heritage foundation These people actually think there railing against the establishment when there just carrying water for the billionaire class
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  1543. I have to ask why if you want to lower immigration you need to change the economic model and invest in the UK that doesn't include lowering taxes scrapping regulations and turning the countryside into a Shale Gas wastelands
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  1544.  @jstewart4205  this is also not true the tax base was 33% under Brown, 33% under Osborne and 33% Under May, the tax base didn't start to go up till Sunak was appointed it's now 38%
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  1545. It's theatre the Rwanda scheme is illeagal on multiple levels the judgment made it clear you'd need to abandon nearly every intrrnational treaty and trade deal before getting close
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  1546. ​​ tax cuts don't generate growth. The low corporate tax rate went straight to share buy backs and increased ceo pay. Go look at the Data
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  1547. Yet his policies have damaged our economy and his agenda if enacted would lead to economic collapse on par with Argentina
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  1548. According to Oxford University researchers, ending fossil fuel use by 2050 will save the world at least $12 trillion (€11.3 trillion). The study disproves the fallacy that going green is economically difficult, says Professor Doyne Farmer, who led the study We are dependant on Fossil because the Fossil lobby want us to be and will do anything to stop the gravy train being turned off
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  1549. Their Neoliberal economic policies will drive legal migration same as the Tories
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  1550. So your a billionaire with offshore interests then? Nice to know
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  1551. They save it money by reducing claims for sexism, racism & bullying
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  1552. 2010 corporation tax was 28% 2015 ish Cameron lowered it to 19% so 26% isn't that far what it used to be
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  1553.  @alanavery2002  The issue with low Corporation tax is it affects every company why would you say want major cash cow companies to only pay 19% Companies only pay tax on profit
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  1554.  @KJ-js7pi  It would help if everybody paid it and governments stopped allowing offshoring and tax shopping by multinationals The US are proposing a global minimum which Sunak was against by the way
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  1555. Nothing works because of right wing policies changing the Cons for a sh1ttier option isn't the cure quote Kwasi Kwarteng made the right decision in swiftly cutting taxes, Nigel Farage said, dealing a blow to global economic institutions which have warned against the economic policy.
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  1556. The FT did an economic analysis on it its basically the result of 13 years of Austerity pay cuts and increasing workload Part of that increase is severe staff shortages The Tories being the arseholes that the,y are would rather spend extra billions on supply and agency staff than fund proper wage rises After 13 years of Austerity multiple tax breaks for the rich a failed Brexit millionaire/billionaire wealth doubling over the last 2 years they now want to service that wealth by penny pinching the middle and lower class. Yet people like you come on and defend it tbh I think you and people like you have Stockholm Syndrome
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  1557.  @seanhedley8028  You voted for a border down the Irish sea at the general election remember Boris's oven ready deal
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  1558.  @JavaAndroid  more fool you taken in by a bunch of Con men Brexit's only goal was to unify the Tory party nothing else
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  1559.  @JavaAndroid  which EU law? There are no EU laws on the statute books
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  1560.  @JavaAndroid  in what way Brexit is a complete rudderless train wreck 7 years on still no plan no vision just rants from people like you about migrant workers. Why don't you turn your anger on the tossers that sold you this rudderless leaky boat of shyte instead of blaming migrant workers who came here to do low paid jobs
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  1561.  @JavaAndroid  we don't have any EU laws all laws on the statute books where voted in by the UK Parliament As for the ECHR why would anyone want to give up their right to a free trial, the right to freedom of religion etc you'd have to be barking to give it up Deregulation - in 2010 Osbourne/Cameron championed the gig economy and deliberately avoided regulting it or the companies that ran this model it saw and explosion of millions of low paid zero hour contracts jobs with millions being filled by Eastern European workers. It depressed wages across the board and produced zero economic benifit causing the political rise of UKIP and a steady shift to the far right by the Conservatives Do you think deregulation of workers rights and conditions will have any other affect bar suppressing salaries or change the government current practice of importing labour from the India Nigeria and the Philippines? They take you people for mugs and you swallow it hook line and sinker
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  1562. Have you read their Manifesto? Fracking - its about as popular round here as a dose of anthrax Deregulation? Our local river is swimming in sewage Low Taxation how? we borrowed 130 billion last year part of that was to cover the mess left by Liz More NHS privatization etc  @macca8562 
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  1563. Hire an EU Nurse and you get 1 Nurse Hire a Filipino Nurse you get her Husband and 2 kids 200,000 becomes 750,000 because of dependants and often times the EU worker went back home after a few years (200,000 is the 2019 level which the Tories promised to lower because hey Unicorns and Cakeism) People warned about removing FOM and they were ignored
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  1564. No they weren't the government took 80%
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  1565.  @chrishart8548  My house has gone up from 30K to 500K since 1984 what's your point? In the last 10 years its increased by 30% while real wages fell by -3%
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  1566. That's not true in terms of return each EU worker contributed £80,000 more than someone born in the UK the figure for non EU migrants is only £20,000 though I suspect that figure will get revised downward. You need an additional £3,000 into the NHS for each extra body
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  1567. So should our parliment we have an extreme policy with no popular mandate the Cons got 42% at the last election most of which was a hold your nose we don't like Corbyn vote. So park the unelected
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  1568. Its cheaper for everyone to go green we stay with fossil because of the fossil lobby According to Oxford University researchers, ending fossil fuel use by 2050 will save the world at least $12 trillion (€11.3 trillion). The study disproves the fallacy that going green is economically difficult, says Professor Doyne Farmer, who led the study
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  1569.  @mattfinch3895  they are deploying more renewable capacity than any other nation on the planet there also adopting EV's at an exponential rate
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  1570. He did pro Bono work for human rights you didn't throw in leftie lawyer failing that there's always the Corbyn emergency lever
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  1571. if you got rid of the ECHR you couldn't challenge any UK law that you thought was dodgy like the majority of the current policing bill, it was put in place post war to stop countries backsliding into National populist Authoritarianism. The thing is the Rwanda thing was never going to fly its a show pony question is why do they really want to get rid of the ECHR? we know Johnson is the Billionaires bitch Dorrie came out and confirmed it after the open letter in the Sun question is why do they want rid of it?
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  1572. Welcome to the land of Ludites Fartage gassing off again Smart meters reduce costs - the end
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  1573. According to Oxford University researchers, ending fossil fuel use by 2050 will save the world at least $12 trillion (€11.3 trillion). The study disproves the fallacy that going green is economically difficult, says Professor Doyne Farmer, who led the study We are dependant on Fossil because the Fossil lobby want us to be and will do anything to stop the gravy train being turned off
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  1574.  @carlad2640  After the current global shocks the US under Biden is investing 2 trillion in renewable and infrastructure projects. Last year this reshored 1 million manufacturing jobs, created +3% GDP Growth and had population growth of 0.5% Last year the Tories collected record tax receipts and spent it on a slew of Trickle down tax policies which increased GDP by 0.3% at a cost of +1% to population growth.
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  1575.  @111111877  Averaged out through all Labour's years in office v Tories and excluding the Covid period Labour have borrowed a lot less and reduced debt by significantly more.
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  1576. @confederatenationalist7283  your talking Libertarian drivel The Cons are using the points based imigration system to import middle and professional class labour at <20% UK wages which is designed to suppress costs (wage growth) + they don't want to pay to train domestic workforce but spend it on trickle down tax cuts instead.
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  1577. @confederatenationalist7283  hardly relevant to today's discussion Quote from 1981 LONDON -- Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's government unveiled plans for a $3.6 billion sale of state-owned oil and gas interests in the North Sea, confirming her determination to sell off industries nationalized by previous administrations Norway kept thiers and amazed a 1 trillion wealth fund
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  1578. @confederatenationalist7283  the general economic multiplier for generic tax cuts is 0.2 a £1 tax cut generates enough GDP to create 20p in additional taxation for a net loss to the treasury of 80p This was amply demonstrated by Osborne's corporate tax cut which generated 0.5% gdp growth for + 40 billion but cost the treasury 200 billion
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  1579.  @confederatenationalist7283  on your 2nd point labour want to invest in social capital ex training education childcare increasing the domestic workforce by allowing women to reenter the workforce
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  1580. @confederatenationalist7283  now your 3rd point on renewable energy the investment will lower electricity prices by quite some margin Octopus are already starting on the path of rolling out V2G tariff which is extremely low as the grid network changes that model will move to free. A Tesla MegaPack installation generates enough cost savings to pay for itself within a year, gas peak plant is the most expensive on the grid using grid scale batteries and EV'S connected for grid smoothing will save 10's of billions in costs + they are completely unmanned and software driven.
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  1581.  @confederatenationalist7283  vat was lower under Labour As far as I'm aware no tax cut generates > 1 how you distribute the tax burden is political ex raising the 20% threshold will be somewhere around 0.8 The lowest multipliers are from things like corporate tax cuts, bankers levy, fossil subsidies etc. Even zero vat rating is by all accounts very inefficient way of steering policy
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  1582.  @confederatenationalist7283  Labour's growth came from investment in social infrastructure, ex if you lower nhs waiting lists you have less workers off sick which increases gdp > than the cost of extra funding. Ex 2 increasing University places creates a higher skilled workforce pool that attract companies who need higher paid graduates who pay more tax than a grunt.
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  1583.  @confederatenationalist7283  cutting spending on services shrinks the economy Defunding the justice system during Austerity had an economic multiplier of 1.6 its estimated the increase in crime delays in processing lower prosecution etc and cost the economy around 500 billion in lost growth This cut services to save money creates its own doom loop, economy shrinks tax receipts fall less money for services so cut services rinse repeat if your economic policies create a low wage economy you'll get a low wage economy irrespective of migration hence +20% wage growth under Blair -7% to date since 2010 under the Cons see my answer on investment in social infrastructure. How does anyone pay for things through taxation the Tories have littered trickle down policies all through the system ex there's around 70+ billion in fossil fuel tax breaks The City has the nickname the London Laundromat
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  1584.  @confederatenationalist7283  So if I were chancellor tomorrow this is one of the things I would do Currently we spend 20 billion on housing support going to the private sector due to asset stripping policy of Right To Buy which doesn't replace the housing stock. 1st change the planning system to permissive development 2nd allow councils to buy then re-designate land 3rd allow councils to take loans to build council houses preferably in league with a private developer so we don't get a sprawl of social housing and the land sale will offset the social housing building cost. So the cost of building a small semi is 250k around 15-20% is profit and half the cost is land. If the council was in league with a builder to do a mixed estate your talking about borrowing for the council of around 100k per home or less, they could then rent it for 1/2 the current rate and use the money to pay the loan while reducing the housing support for 1 tenant to zero saving a huge chunk of tax payer money Do it at scale you have +20 billion to spend
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  1585.  @confederatenationalist7283  I take it you've never heard of agrovoltaiacs?
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  1586.  @confederatenationalist7283  why would bugs be on the menu? 15 minute cities are a good thing it means local shopping and well funded public transport as well as proper planning for schools hospitals doctors etc?
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  1587.  @confederatenationalist7283  15 minute cities are about planning and public transport please go read up on them not spout fringe conspiracy theory nutball stuff
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  1588. Its funded by off-shore Billionaire interests with connections to the Legatum institute a right wing think tank that's part of the Koch Brothers Libertarian climate denying network . GBNews is a at best an opinion show and at worst a Propaganda outlet using populism to support the Billionaire Libertarian agenda
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  1589. and there not affected by Tory inflation like everyone else? why brown nose for this collection of greedy Hunts and parrot Right wing talking points @williebobs3830 
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  1590. Mines are closing because there not economic Coal generation is x 2.5 times more expensive than the latest offshore wind Our energy costs are the highest in Europe why Because successive Tory administrations have rolled back the renewable agenda to the point it takes 7 years to get a Pylon through planning, our homes are the worst insulated in Europe and you can't add mass storage to the Grid in multiple locations due to Old out of date grid software. Who pays you Nana oh right an offshore billionaire with ties to the fossil lobby enough said
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  1591. just go net zero and save money its easier Quote The OBR concludes: the debt impact of future volatility in gas prices is at 13% of the UK gross domestic product (GDP) to 2050. This dwarfs the debt impact of 6% of GDP for investing in net zero. Second, it investigates the potential of new, growing energy solutions to cushion price volatility.25 Jul 2023 Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP.
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  1592. you'll then have to fit air con I'd get insulating if I were you @Jack-fs2im 
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  1593. we have real world numbers on energy costs and I have thermal solar it provides 75% of my hot water based on current gas prices it will pay for itself in 7 years and after that hot water is mostly free. Pretty much how the cost of net zero technology works high up front costs covered by capital return over as little now as under 10 years @Jack-fs2im 
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  1594. Cost of energy produced from coal is 4 times that of renewables @paulnolan1352 
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  1595. @SmartCookie2022  you obviously don't understand economics, renewable energy is cheaper than fossil the reason we pay high energy prices is that lack of Infrastructure investment. The reason taxes keep going up is lack of social and physical infrastructure investment by both government and the private sector it has nothing to do with green levies. Reducing tax doesnt generate growth investment does
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  1596. @SmartCookie2022  the bulk of new MPs will be Starmer picks he's taken control over selection in most areas, Rochdale is old school and likely loose the whip
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  1597. The answer to the economic mess caused by Thatcherism is more extreme Thatcherism? Not sure I'm following the logic here
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  1598. Fake nationalism and a complete failure to take any responsibility for what theyve done
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  1599. Not true you can't get housing because the council housing stock has been depleted by 2 million by right to buy and money hasn't been spent to replace them
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  1600. We set it up post ww2 to stop countries backsliding into fascism You know like stripping someone of their citizenship or setting up a concentration/ labour camp that sort of insane populist Authoritarianism garbage
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  1601. You could do that by connecting more renewables to the grid Mmm hang on that would mean the government investing in infrastructure and sorting out the problem rather than private companies scalping consumers
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  1602.  @lydiamalone1859  I'll stick to the economic reports data and reality. If you want to go round claiming that Bloomberg Reuters the FT the BOE are all wrong and your right then good luck with that
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  1603.  @lydiamalone1859  The impact of Brexit on the UK economy will be worse in the long run compared to the coronavirus pandemic, the chairman of the Office for Budget Responsibility has said. Richard Hughes said leaving the EU would reduce the UK's potential GDP by about 4% in the long term. FT The number of buyer-seller relationships fell by almost one-third. It also found that Brexit “increased average food prices by about 6 per cent Bloomberg Adam Posen said 80 per cent of the reason why the UK will see the highest inflation of any G7 country next year, as per the latest IMF forecasts, is due to the impact of Brexit on immigration and the labour market. Etc
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  1604.  @routmaster38  I've never bought a new car, in a couple of years your energy supplier will be giving you free off peak electricity if you sign up to V2G The tech saves them a fortune
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  1605.  @noelward8047  Net zero because it depends on some intermittent sources requires energy storage and a flattening of the demand curve. We now have the engineering and tech skills to do that. Once your not paying for very expensive peak production the wholesale price plummets
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  1606.  @noelward8047  looking at a high demand period last year average price was £200 kwh but the peak price was £6000. Its on the extremes but over £1000 in winter regullaly happens. Forward guaranteed contract price for Dogger bank offshore is £42. So storage and using smart tech has a huge impact on price.
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  1607. The left haven't missed a point they just don't care maybe we should join the EU to get guarantees like this If you are legally resident in an EU country you are entitled to open a "basic payment account". Banks cannot refuse your application
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  1608.  @paulwainwright6903  what the party of fantasy economics who are continually boosted by a Libertarian offshore billionaires Propaganda station GBN Your having a laugh The same tw@ts that sold you brexit
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  1609.  @paulwainwright6903  GBN owned by an offshore Libertarian billionaire who has connections with us climate denial fossil funded groups is promoting them nuff said
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  1610. since when supply side reform would bankrupt nearly all SME's and farmers flooding the UK with low quality cheap imports
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  1611. Not taxing them is a subsidy one which I do not wish my hard earned money spent on Why should working people subsidise the wealthy?
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  1612.  @NobbingNobby  What's that got to do with the price of fish Private tutors pay their taxes as do tutoring businesses yet were supposed to give the wealthy a free lunch to the tune of 6k per pupil. The bulk of the pupils at the nearest private school to me are foreign it's a business
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  1613. why the only people paying it are making a profit and not investing it in their business
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  1614. The reason the economy is going down the sh1t hole is right wing economics So Labour won't destroy the country they will invest in stuff like UK Nurses so we don't have to import them from Nigeria with their husband and Kids. Jeez you people are Mugs you don't have a clue what's driving legal migration do you?
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  1615. @christinalayzelle832   UK Needs Immigration Points System says Nigel Farage UKIP Leader We have a points system and have lost FOM Immigration has more than trebbled because workers outside the EU fetch over thier families It's like watching an exercise in Stupidity
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  1616. He's just shilling for the fossil companies who are screwing people for trillions Quote A multimillionaire Brexit donor funding anti-‘net zero’ campaigns is the director of a company with tens of millions of pounds invested in oil and gas. The revelation comes as chancellor Rishi Sunak is expected to bow to pressure from the motor industry and cut fuel duty in his spring Budget statement on Wednesday. Investment manager Jeremy Hosking has given millions to political parties including the Conservatives and Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party/Reform UK, as well as Vote Leave. Recently, he has been bankrolling Laurence Fox’s Reclaim Party, which has campaigned against ‘net zero’, and has been linked to a climate denial group.
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  1617. Banks have internal procedures against money laundering fraud and Unexplained wealth if your politically active there are increased requirements It's for one of the above his account will have been closed not for being a populist bell end
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  1618. we have 40,000 people here who should have been deported already and aren't because she does nothing. All the talk of ECHR and UNCR is a distraction. She was speaking at a right wing Libertarian think tank The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research mainly funded by big oil such as ExxonMobil These people dont give a sh1t about working and middle class there sole purpose of existing is to screw as much money out the system for the billionaire and corporate class there no different to the IEA who where pulling Truss's strings
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  1619. We have eye watering levels of personal taxation due to Thatcherism = Supply Side Economics We have private utilities we have no control over because Thatcherism We have no control over our North Sea deposits because Thatcherism Osborne Sunak same old failed policies recycled Thatcher got away with it by bribing people with Oil tax money and a one off sale of Britain's assets its a total failure since Supply-side economics assumes that lower tax rates boost economic growth by giving people incentives to work, save, and invest more. A critical tenet of this theory is that giving tax cuts to high-income people produces greater economic benefits than giving tax cuts to lower-income folks. Essentially, the more money the rich are able to keep, the more the whole economy will grow. But the evidence reveals two fundamental problems with this story. First, its primary prediction is wrong—giving tax cuts to the rich does not increase economic output or create new jobs. Instead, tax cuts for middle- and low-income taxpayers are much more effective at boosting macroeconomic activity. Second, supply-side theory misunderstands the actual mechanism by which tax rates influence macroeconomic activity. While supply-siders maintain that lower rates at the top incentivize people to earn more money, the evidence shows that tax cuts boost output mostly by putting money in people’s pockets and thereby stimulating demand. Why is supply-side economics controversial? Opponents of supply-side economics argue that rather than increasing revenue for the government, lowering taxes will instead increase the deficit. As a result, the government will have to cut programs or raise other taxes to make up for this shortfall, unless it wishes to run a permanent deficit.
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  1620. Tice is an elite grifter his solution is give him the unlimeted power. We know whhere that ends dont we children
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  1621. At least they'll remove the 20% threshold freeze and tax excess energy profits with a windfall tax both of which are literally killing the working class @wallacewhybrow2705 
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  1622. Sunak needed to throw off the lies of the Johnson era instead he's pedalling his own whoppers were the party of tax cuts pffffffff 7 bins meat tax he couldn't even get his tax bombshell lie straight 2k over years is £400 a year
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  1623. You'd have got a rise in pension age to 68 further unfunded NI cuts and public service collapse with the Tories so stop carping, the alternative is an emergency budget and general taxation going up
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  1624. Inflation set to go back up next month CPIH (+ housing) is still at 2.8 and RPI is running at 3% why do you think Sunak called an election things will get worse
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  1625. ​ @lochnessmunster1189 don't be a chump Common standards trade rules and tax made supply chains and trade down to a sole trader on amazon or a part time covers band doing the summer in France seamless. Replaced with tons of red tape delays tarrifs and a fked supply chain all of which is costing billions a nd crushing trade
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  1626. Delusional, Johnson and the DUP have already lost there's a de-facto border down the Irish sea weather they like it or not courtesy of trade gravity. Businesses love a frictionless border rather than the blonde twt's hundreds of pages of import/export documentation Vet certificates etc. The NI economy is completely aligning with the South, GB is being abandoned as a land bridge and ferry trade is routed through Cherbourg to Southern Ireland then North. The DUP won't have a majority in an election to sabotage or stop what's already happened in fact they will loose seats both the the fanatics to the right of them and moderates to the left
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  1627.  @leehenry5764  hgv shortages are about 8-10% in Europe and 25%+ in the UK plus the Johnson deal removed frictionless roll on roll off trade and ended cabotage so pick a number as to the real shortage some haulage firm are reporting up to a 1/3 of their fleet being off the road.
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  1628.  @leehenry5764  what's your point given there's a 50% pass rate and the haulage industry is loosing 8k per annum thev have an average age of 55? Current government policy will only make the situation worse.
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  1629. Why would you vote for a bunch of racist tossers who want to bring fascism back into fashion? There economic policies are even worse than the Cons and thats saying something
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  1630. There not in favour there just not touching the tax system at the PAYE level till they sort out some of the Tory mess
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  1631. so that when politicians fk up they can stop the economy melting
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  1632. Why he's bulldozed Johnson's deal over the line Brexit was only ever meant to glue a fractured Tory party together which it did with great success but there was never a viable post brexit plan we will slowly limp back to regulatory alignment with our tails between our legs to some form of May type deal post 2024
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  1633.  @lewis123417  nothing that's the point the NI economy will flourish inside the single market while the GB one steadily spirals down the toilet. Fun fact EU gdp is greater today than it was in 2019 with uk as a member The GB economy in gdp terms is still less than 2019
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  1634.  @LowPlainsDrifter60  you'd have thought empty shelves and food rationing but apparently that's bad weather nothing to to do a completely broken supply chain that can barely hold it together with all the cards stacked in its favour the slightest nudge and it just falls over
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  1635. There a lot more British focused than the C9ns who are breaking up the Union
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  1636. QE is partly responsible but Energy is the chief driver in this case Its estimated that the UK energy market will make 170 billion in excess profits over 2 years the sooner we transition to renewables the better to be honest
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  1637. why do you repeat that transphobic shit He's given the legal definition loads of times
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  1638. Why is removing yourself from an institution you set up in 51 post war to basically set up a penal colony in Africa costing a couple of hundred million for 300 people a vote winner?
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  1639.  @davidsummer8631  there's a British judge on the ECRH how do you know he didn't make the ruling? Removing human rights is for everyone it's not selective to people the media have pounded into your head relentlessly to hate And the only country to leve the ECHR are Russia, its not a good look especially as its embedded into the Good Friday Agreement.
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  1640. The case came up because of defamation if the fat slob had kept his mouth shut it wouldn't have gone to court
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  1641. Why would you vote for a Con light party all the bad policies rehashed
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  1642. I don't think you understand how the Grid works Bills are going up because of the cost of Standby Gas generation NZ replaces this with mass storage, until that's done were at the mercy of the commodity markets
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  1643. They doubled with Brexit get used to Tory incompetence
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  1644. Osborne tried that and cratered growth causing more damage to the economy than the savings made. Small state doesn't work were left with a highly inefficient nhs due to lack of infrastructure investment and patching over problems with more staff Quote The UK has fewer CT and MRI scanners than comparator countries. CT and MRI scanners per million head of population
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  1645. what's democratic about a deal we never voted for and the reason being it would have never got 50%
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  1646. Raab is a idiotic idealogue just look at the brain fart ideas he's been pushing people like that want yes men because in their eyes you need to believe and it will happen no matter how insane the policies are
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  1647. And it doesn't matter how much money Tories have they always want more He didn't touch unearned income wonder why? and graduates aren't core Tory voters neither are the poor so screw em
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  1648. If your vote is predicated on fake Media culture wars it's pretty sad
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  1649.  @everybodyknows5765  There was no parties Look we all know there was wine Friday Karaoke Birthday parties Leaving parties its the best not kept secret ever. The more worrying aspect is what was Lulu Lyte and Carrie Symonds doing in a restricted area they have security clearance and this goes back to hobnobbing with Ledvedev
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  1650. @alexander92179  the thing that amazes me still is the cult like belief that the Brexit Ultra's were telling you the truth and that they understand how trade and economics work. Any trade we had outside the EU was subject to standards paperwork & red tape now all trade even to NI needs mountains of the stuff, we had FOM with zero red tape for workers now immigration is at its highest level and we have huge costs processing visas at both employees and employers end. At this point it has to be said your a bunch of nutball cultists whose wild claims of its not Brexit but just this one more thing and in 50 years it will all have been worth it needs professional therapy Flat earthers are sounding more rational
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  1651. Because sending people to a concentration camp in east Africa is inhumane
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  1652. Cameron put a moratorium on Wind projects in 2010 and Con policy allowed us to be tied to short term gas as a solution. This is entirely predictable you can go back and trace economic stagnation via the world commodity price of oil and gas, Norway are 93% renewable are world leaders in EV purchases and have 3% inflation
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  1653. He talks complete shyte We chose the path were on the French don't care they've more important things to worry about
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  1654. So I need to have what little human rights that are left in this country taken away because dingies For fk sake give it a rest with this absolute bollox
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  1655.  @Mallarkey  He Still peddled economic Thatcherism which is the root cause of our economic malaise
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  1656. Britain is Full? Full of Tory BS National Debt 85% of GDP and growing 37 billion spent on a barley working track and trace with some tory donors instead of running it through the NHS 250 million to be spent on a floating Gin Palace for Doris's hols with his mates who have his number Why doesn't Swayne get his party renamed to UKIP xenophobic immigrant bashing is all this lot are capable of
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  1657. We could have had a major push for renewable energy 2 years ago when the price of gas went north but instead kept planning as it was and an onshore wind ban
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  1658. Thresholds are frozen till 2028 by Sunak so fiscal drag will remain whoever gets in Labours pledge is around not raising the % on paye If you vote Con and your a Pensioner you'll get sweet FA, and the NI cuts will be paid for by raising the pension age to 68 by them
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  1659. Brex1t is dead it's a complete failure, no plan for 8 years and a disaster on the economy
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  1660. No we don't that's just spin from the Ultra's who want to distance themselves from the car crash they've inflicted on the economy If your referring to the removal of all regulations no one in their right mind would sign up to full open border globalisation and Hedge fund Britain, the gammons are repeatedly beating their chests about migration as it is
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  1661. Where were you in reporting on Farage connections to an offshore billionaire, johnson being a security risk with connections to russian Oligarchs or both Sunak and Badenoch financially connections to the fossil lobby
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  1662. ​ @abcd-by6rw If you want to reduce immigration you need to abandon Thatcherism change the tax model and invest in the UK not continously pull in cheap labour from abroad If you vote for right wing parties then nothing will change immigration is a fundemental part of low tax trickle down supply side economics anyone promising you both is LYING
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  1663. If you want to lower immigration invest in physical and social infrastructure by making the tax system equitable and progressive so your domestic workforce is trained If you go down low tax Tory supply side economics aka Thatcherism then you need to feed it supply side migration or it doesn't work
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  1664. It doesn't due to fiscal drag your tax has gone up +£400 if you have a supplement pension and Your heating bill has trebled because of government inaction on energy divestment from GAS and my sons tax went up £500 then will go down £50 with the NI cut, NI thresholds are still frozen
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  1665. Yea I mean who wants one of the fastest growing and fully recovered economy in the west with one of the lowest death totals per 100k Canada busts the myth that lockdown damages the economy its recovery was quicker and it is projected to have 3% gdp growth in 2022 oh look as is New Zeland what a coincidence NOT
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  1666. Tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations paid for by milking the Middle and working class @joe2791990 
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  1667. How about we process them instead of doing this dance of if we make their lives miserable and spend millions doing it it will deter more boats you really have to be thick if you get conned by this because all the government is doing is wasting GOBS of taxpayer money making the problem worse 2010 people in the Asylum system 20,000, 2023 140,000 claims in 2022 ran at 60,000 peak claims where 2002 at 80,000
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  1668. Don't forget the billionaire class and the millionaire pensioners with their huge tax breaks
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  1669. why did you just post a lie?
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  1670. Why bother Reforms economic policies are the same as Sunak's, Libertarian supply side globalisation that screw the workers over
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  1671. a lot more than senile boomers that keep voting Tory and blame everything on immigrants that's for sure @straightouttacornwall 
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  1672. Why would you vote REFORM their Tory with added be evil to refugees Their economic policy is a cut and Paste from Lettuce Liz You remember her the one that single handily nearly crashed all UK pension companies and left a 60 billion hole in UK finances while bumping up interest rates by 1.5 points?
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  1673. And what Have Lettuce Liz style fantasy economics again No thanks
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  1674.  @paulsmith8858  there just another version of Boris's fantasy politics, telling you they can do x y & z to get your vote if you tried implementing thier policies it would completely tank the economy There completely utterly clueless on how trade the economy or public services work and interact with regular people s lives
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  1675. Vaccines protect against measles mumps rubella wooping cough TB smallpox etc. If parents have been rotting their brains with anti vax garbage it's time for the kids to take control and say no to life threatening diseases
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  1676. Vaccines protect against measles mumps rubella wooping cough TB smallpox etc. If parents have been rotting their brains with anti vax garbage it's time for the kids to take control and say no to life threatening diseases
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  1677. Your tax is mostly subsidising the Rich Ex fiscal drag has added £420 to everyone on 20% threshold in real terms this scalped +20 billion last year in the budget was a 4 billion tax break for millionaire pensioners 8 billion for Bankers and 8 billion in additional fossil subsidies
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  1678. There are 19 other cases pending Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3)
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  1679. Is your car older than 2008?
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  1680. We are in hock to the markets for over 2.7 trillion and they took umbrage at Truss pissing away an extra 70 billion on the billionaire class exactly why is she still in office having cost the government an extra 12 billion in interest costs ad being responsible for mortgage rates rising permanently?
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  1681. Reform sold you the train wreck that is Brexit You'd need to be a masochist to even go there
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  1682. This didn't prioritse the economy it just spread the disease quicker
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  1683. True that because of this and testing being a mess the xmas lockdown was inevitable
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  1684. It only applies to companies with more than 250 employees ( the additional reporting) We've had lorryloads of red tape thanks to brexit
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  1685. How there economic policies are nearly the same as the Tories which are driving legal migration? @hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo 
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  1686.  @RedToriesBlueTories  Reeve is in charge of the Treasury and she will remove the 91 billion in the last budget on Trickle down policies that do sweet FA for a start.
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  1687. She contributed +300 million to Londons economy and had an Austrian concert cancelled because of security fears.
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  1688. which taxes other than the ones you pay through PAYE and vat would affect you personally? If the Tories get n by some miracle then they will raise the pension age to 68 to pay for the NI reduction
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  1689. He negotiated the protocol in the first place the whole tory party voted for it, it may be garbage but its now law you can't walk away from
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  1690.  @mal6232  There isn't a problem though so how can you talk about something and resolve it if it doesn't exist. There's nothing in Article 16 about Unionists hurt feelings.
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  1691. There's full employment and 1.5 million vacancies 1.5% of unemployed are disabled or special needs 1.5% are fekless (drunks druggies homeless criminals pick your favourite) Leaving a few in the wrong place wrong skills too old too young not qualified transitioning jobs etc. So stick your worthless opinions where the sun don't shine your not getting a 50 year old out of work man with a family from the North to go bunk down and work in the south east on cripplingly low wages
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  1692. Its the court of last appeal against government overreach quote after 27 years of fighting for justice, the Hillsborough families were able to use the Human Rights Act to uncover the truth about how their 96 loved ones died  @davidseals4898 
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  1693. Why there refugees and we have a labour shortage to the point where the government are going to start importing workers from Nigeria and India.
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  1694. Why are they even allowed to drink on the job? And the main reason is to stop the high levels of inappropriate behaviour
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  1695. It will cost 40 billion a year over 10 years Volatility in gas prices is costing UK consumers + 140 billion in excess energy costs Going net zero is a no brained on economic grounds alone
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  1696. It's just a more extreme version of the failing policies we've had for 14 years. When the problem is neoliberal economics More extreme neoliberal economics isn't going to cure it
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  1697. @arfurdaylee  low tax means no investment in UK social or physical infrastructure = stagnation economy propped up with high legal migration Low reg means polution removal of workers rights bucket loads of red tape costs and paperwork for export/import + The ECHR is the last refuge from government overreach as used by the Hilsbourough families
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  1698. about as much as it needs Liz Truss back, zombie economics at its finest
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  1699. He's taking away your human rights and setting up his own indoctrination programme for your kids remind you of anyone in History?
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  1700. Here's an election loosing strategy give Millionaire Pensioners a tax break and screw over the middle and lower class to pay for it
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  1701.  @DavyMcKay  it's just gay hate recycled into transphobia Don't you feel used for believing this crap matters?
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  1702. Of course it's extreme right that's why labour have a 20 point lead
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  1703. Named after a famous Labour politician James Keir Hardie (15 August 1856 – 26 September 1915) was a Scottish trade unionist and politician. He was a founder of the Labour Party, and served as its first parliamentary leader from 1906 to 1908 and He got a scholarship to a private school so did I my parents were also working class
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  1704. I think he started off working class and his family bettered themselves as did my parents. By the time I became aware of class I was already at a private school with a scholarship and the fee paying boarders were pretty aggressive at singling out the scholarship pupils. Then Thatcher destroyed the working class what's left of them voted Brexit and UKIP. My son is a gardener very well educated 9 GCSE's 4 A levels a distinction in Horticulture get 30p above minimum wage. A just graduated nurse pays 50% in tax. Pensioners are starting to go into the 20% tax bad through fiscal drag if they have even a small secondary income. Meanwhile the wealth Class are licking up the cream, Millionaire pensioners given a 40,000 a year tax break. Bankers given 8 billion. The likes of Hunt, Sunak paying 20 p in the £ on earned asset wealth their latest wheeze remove IHT which only 4% pay Welcome to Tory Britain the asset class and every else that supports them @shughy1 
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  1705. Tax cuts don't create growth its completely delusional Osborne's corporate tax cut was spent on share buybacks increasing CEO pay in the bargain If you want to grow the economy you invest in physical and social infrastructure and get money into the pockets of the working and middle class Bottom up middle out as in scrap Tory Austerity and Trickle down policies
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  1706. Moving from one set of right wing grifters to another marvellous The root cause of the majority of this countries problems is Thatcherism
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  1707. Reform are the worst versions of Tory policy there Libertarian not Conservative and deluded in everything they propose
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  1708. Reform would make both legal and illegal migration worse Their economic policies would turbo charge legal migration and their solutions to illegal migration are FogHorn grandstanding same as the Tories
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  1709. Yea because the Blair / Brown era brought +25% in real wage growth we can't be having people with more money in their pocket much better Cameron / May's real -3% in real wages and Bojo's -5% The Cameron / May / Johnson era has seen the biggest shift in wealth to the 1% ever recorded as the poor and middle class pick up the tab for spiralling asset values of the super wealthy and lavish pay-outs to corporate bosses.
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  1710. @Health is wealth Got nothing to do with immigration don't be such a patsy for the National populists
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  1711. Tax thresholds are frozen till 2028 that's costing me £40 a month
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  1712. ​ @lady12roses why would anyone consider another Thatcherite economic leaning party after 14 years of it producing stagnation? High legal migration is the result of not investing in your own population, high rents not investing in housing, clogged roads not investing in transport etc
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  1713. Why do you want a foreigner buying the uk election? Billionaires want tax breaks and government contracts for their donations
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  1714.  @markcrouch9047  The industry provides no where near the number of parallel jobs you would gain from a domestic renewable and green energy system + we are then insulated from world commodity shock. It also has next to no effect on the world market and we are giving out huge subsidies and tax breaks to maintain it. There is zero economic argument for maintaining the status quo when we can produce energy more cheaply and not have it transported with all the environmental hazards that brings. I'd also add the next round of exploration and extraction will be more costly thane the last further increasing costs as renewable prices keep going down.
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  1715.  @markcrouch9047  Its got nothing to do with being a good citizen and going green renewables are cheaper period. The grid is aging and due for refurbishment anyway as coal stations reach end of life the only thing holding it back is government inaction. A grid that is renewable based is a lot more decentralised you can already mesh network Domestic EV's for grid balancing the same smart technology makes better utilization of domestic solar. Domestic Batteries are starting to appear on solar installations as prices keep falling You can reduce UK gas usage by improving insulation standards and retrofit + the current network can support a 20/80 Hydrogen / NG mix So in 7/8 years that oil / Gas field we spent billions subsidising getting on line could well be redundant as prices fall. Current Brent crude costs 60$ a barrel to break even Saudi / Iran / Iraq 30$ most US production 50$ Ural 65$ Nigeria 50$ etc.
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  1716.  @markcrouch9047  Why is Texas the King of US oil the King of Wind Farm deployment in the US with 20% Oil is a multi trillion dollar business there are too many vested interests involved in any sort of transition away from it if they can possibly help it. You keep repeating renewables are not cheaper but that is an outright lie these are from economics publications Quote 2023 Switching over to clean, renewable power — and away from fossil fuels — could save trillions of dollars by 2050, a new study finds Quote 2020 In most places in the world power from new renewables is now cheaper than power from new fossil fuels Quote 2021 Renewables are now significantly undercutting fossil fuels as the world's cheapest source of power, according to a new report.
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  1717. @poolplayerpoolplayer7430  which bit of we're giving billions in subsidies and it takes 7+ years to come to the international market + renewables are still falling in cost will affect prices in the next couple of years?
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  1718.  @yousausage  GBEnergy is a proposed to be a renewable energy company which will add competition to the market by providing pressure to lower prices. In the current outdated system, the most expensive type of energy (usually gas) sets the price for ALL types of energy, including renewables. It's bonkers
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  1719. You don't give in to an extortion racket Putin and his ilk are a criminal enterprise  @aclark903 
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  1720. Reform are a vehicle for the billionaire class to slow and stop our energy independence transition, the migration stuff is a con Reform's economic policies would just drive legal migration higher its a feature of right wing supply side trickle down
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  1721. You do realise the people yanking your chain and filling your head with propaganda like GBN are vehicles to promote Billionaire interests NatCon isn't Conservative and was sponsored by an oil and gas funded think tank Always follow the money
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  1722. there's 2 cars and a campervan in my family all of them not new and they all comply go look up the standard its pretty lax
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  1723.  @ethalminiellis3032  why won't it? Ulez standard is the same as in other European cities. EV's will phase in as ICE production stops and prices get cheaper EV Crate engine conversions will start to become available for people wanting to keep their old vehicle but run it on electric Things don't stand still and the whole point of ULEZ is better public transport cleaner air and less cars on the road and it will always be around the 90% plus compliance mark before they change it I changed a lot of my travel to an EBike a year or so ago I want more cycle lanes
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  1724.  @dannyBtech  A 2008 car is a money pit average mileage would put it at over 100,000 miles on the clock and poor people don't drive they benefit most from better and cheaper public transport. Hardest hit will be diesel lorries and vans and if there are any tradesmen left after Brexit
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  1725. Blair / Brown +25% on average wages services that work Cameron /May -3% on average wages Johnson Truss Sunak -?? services that are run down to the bone and are on life support The tax-to-GDP ratio in the United Kingdom has increased from 32.7% in 2000 to 33.5% in 2021 debt to gdp rom 62% to a projected 103% in 2023 (don't blame the pandemic it was 92% in 2019) So debt has gone up with the Tories Tax has gone up with the Tories the only thing that's gone down is real wages so Labour landslide here we come
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  1726.  @T5Zplayer  so a true forelocktugger enjoy your poverty and serfdom
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  1727. renewable energy is cheaper than fossil and over the last decade we've poured over 200 billion in subsidies towards the industry
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  1728. economy is shrinking because we keep cutting services ex defund the criminal & justice system you get more crime which results in a drop in GDP duplicate that through the economy and we get a shrinking tax base as GDP per Capita shrinks
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  1729.  @MinkieWinkle  yes they do if you built a modern east west train line it would expand the commuter belt for leeds Liverpool and Manchester. That in turn creates further demand in those areas for shops resteraunts etc. Link it to Hull and you can catch the overnight ferry to the continent. If you cut funding to youth service and you get increased youth crime that leads to a decrease in. Gdp and the State ends up with a bigger bill for prison police and justice Narrow thinking for short term is why we are here
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  1730. Your not subsidising offshore wind farms no idea where you got that nonsense from Currently gas generation is x7 times the cost of wind and controls the spot price because the Tory energy matket
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  1731.  @lawsonspedding6136  the shelf life of offshore wind is 25 years The issue with private companies building public infrastructure is they refuse to take risks, Dogger bank offshore has a guaranteed contract price of 42p Hinkley C is around 120p with inflation guarantees for 35 years. Because the cost of borrowing has gone up they were looking for 52p To put this in prospective peak Gas demand has reached a spot price in September 2022 was 580p
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  1732. So he's resigning over Sunak breaking the 2019 Net Zero manifesto pledge Is this correct a Tory with a spine he needs to be expelled from the party asap
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  1733. This only came up because Bozo was sponging off the state and getting them to pay legal bills so the Cabinet Office had to review all relevant documents. Its totally self inflicted by greed
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  1734. Working people don't pay CGT well of retirees like me don't pay CGT the likes of Hu nt and Sunak do
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  1735. @dianecameron137  one who's sorted out his tax affairs, your paying cgt on selling 2nd properties primarily, or your income is derived by selling shares outside a pension wrapper (SIPP) or ISA as Sunak's is
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  1736. @dianecameron137  I don't do the faux outrage the media tries to spin, the issue with the freebies is the rules all MP'S accept them my Lib-Dem mp was waxing lyrical about meeting local business leaders at the local 2nd division football club and getting hospitality at the WI. The stories by the right wing media are designed to ensure you don't look at what's really going on in detail and to create false equivalence. Starmer has a rich friend, Badenoch ran her campaign for leadership from a house donated for the task by a prominent fossil lobbyist now there's a proper story Quote Kemi Badenoch Manifesto Uses Climate Denial Group Research to Attack Net Zero The Tory candidate is running her campaign from the home of a prominent anti-green activist. And let's dig further Nigel Farage’s Reform Party Has Accepted £2.3 Million from Fossil Fuel Interests, Climate Deniers, and Polluters Since 2019 Election He received over 1 million last year from an offshore billionaire with ties to the fossil lobby through GBN
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  1737. @dianecameron137  so my detailed reply was deleted here is a synopsis of how I feel about influence in politics The fossil lobby pour millions into the Cons through various means, this lead to delayed and abandoned insulation targets, renewable infrastructure cancelatons and an onshore wind ban plus delayed grid roll out costing the country and consumers 100's of billions in total over the energy crisis.
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  1738. @dianecameron137  the fossil lobby are also pouring millions into reform by various means as well
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  1739.  @dannyblanchflower1882  and when would a rejoin referendum be 2050? by that time all the old farts that drunk the Brexit coolaid will be dead
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  1740.  @dannyblanchflower1882  and when would a rejoin referendum be 2050? by that time all the old farts that drunk the Brexit coolaid will be dead
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  1741. we have an energy crisis which needs investment in and there promising to lower taxes for the wealthy how does that work? If you pump 28 billion into renewable energy it has an economic multiplier of a minimum 1.6 which means for every £1 you put in it creates enough GDP to return £1.6 in additional taxation. As a pensioner this will help me enormously because it will lower energy costs and I'm home most of the day far more than any tax cut. Getting energy costs down to 2020 levels would be the equivalent to me of my tax going from 20% to 10%
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  1742. Sweden has 63% renewable energy which is why they don't have a cost of living crisis and why there energy bills aren't the highest in Europe As self owns go its pretty dick comment
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  1743. Anyone stupid enough to believe Fracking is the answer to anything needs therapy, its elites funneling money to big Fossil as usual, cue Sunak's tax giveaways for North sea exploration  @Bobisalive 
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  1744. Sue Gray plans to shut down the Bars to stop the drinking culture
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  1745. So if you remove 20k hgv drivers from the pool, reduce the recruitment pool from 550 million to 65 million stop cabotage and abandon a roll off roll on frictionless market and replace it with a car park in kent with only a drainage grate to piss in and thousands of pages of documents adding untold delays but non of that is affecting the shortage or speeding up retirment and wastage in the sector? Interesting theory not
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  1746. Tory economic policies tarted up with Populism how does that make things better not drive the economy further down the toilet?
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  1747. Trump won't stand a chance if he goes against Biden the Dark Money backers who fund republicans won't touch him because he's batsh1t crazy This lot are just kin useless as Trump is
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  1748. The last election was fought on the Johnson manifesto, leveling up, Hs2/3, net zero, no tax rises & get brexit done Brexit is a complete mess and Sunak has abandoned all the manifesto pledges + the Truss experiment will add to debt costs for decades
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  1749. There are no EU rules in the UK were not in the EU anymore all rules in place are UK rules voted by the UK parliament. Businesses still have to produce goods to EU standards if they wan to export to the EU and there not going to run 2 production lines just go get drunk or something Nige and spare us your crap
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  1750. We have a mandatory private pension system on top of the state pension I'm retired I have state + a final salary + a SIPP what's hurt everyone is the failure to recover post banking crash in 2008 since then the economy has been stagnant till 2019 when it started going backwards
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  1751. So what's that got to do with it loads of the over 70's vote based on daytime tv and are senile how about stripping the vote from them they don't pay taxes at least not enough and they don't pay NI either
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  1752. ​ @THX829  The BOE had to bail out the Kwerteng budget to the tune of 130 billion in quantitative Easing along with the 700 billion printed through the Covid period you have a case of too much money sloshing round the system all of which has trickled up. Its why inflation has been so sticky a lot of it needs taxing out of the system the wealthy are on a spendathon bender quote Luxury goods boom in Britain as super-rich youngsters buck the recession Rich kids fuel sales of brands such as Burberry, Louis Vuitton and Gucci They’re young, rich and mortgage-free, and the scions of the 1% are having a roaring twenties. Despite the economic gloom currently shrouding the UK and many other western countries, sales of luxury brands have been booming and growing numbers of buyers are young adults. Swiss watches, Louis Vuitton trainers, rare Birkin bags and 81-year-old whiskies are among the products that are fuelling impressive growth in the bottom lines of luxury brands such as LVMH, Burberry and Kering.
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  1753. Quote The UK is "sleepwalking" into a food supply crisis and the government must step in to help farmers, the National Farmers Union (NFU) has warned. Yields of tomatoes and other crops will likely slump to record lows this year, it said, with potential supply problems ahead as already seen with eggs So no its not easily explained and the Supermarkets maybe gauging but the whole thing revolves round government post Brexit policy and to an extent Brexit itself. The CAP is gone we've erected unbelievably stupid trade barriers at the point where we depend more and more on imports
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  1754. UK law is embedded in the 4000+ laws there guffing on about they cover everything from sewage in the rivers / seas to paid holiday leave to food standards plus gobs of employment law. If you think the markets blew up over the Truss budget pass this bag of right wing shyte and watch the uk economy tank at a vast rate of knots as the bond markets bail
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  1755. So mr multi millionaire whats your crackpot unfunded tax policy? Ahh the lettuce Liz approach
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  1756. 70% of counties by GDP in the US voted for Biden, Texas may be governed by the Republicans but it no different to any other part of the US Your living in lala land if you don't realize that secession would turn Texas into Mexico @Si_Mondo 
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  1757. They'd get around a day before the Tex dollar went into full Argentina mode @johnkitching2248 
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  1758. The faux 2nd jobs are far more of an issue, Nige is trousering over a million, GBN is loss making with an offshore billionaire bank rolling it
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  1759. CGT is taxing the elites
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  1760. It will cost 40 billion a year over 10 years Volatility in gas prices is costing UK consumers + 140 billion in excess energy costs Going net zero is a no brained on economic grounds alone Sunak is just pushing costs onto the consumer so the energy companies keep making huge excess profits
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  1761.  @shaunusmaximus6399  incorrect the billionaire and fossil industry are ultra fond of deregulation and no tax, there's a whole slew of think tanks sponsored by them pushing far right ideology across the globe. Why because they don't care about the people they hurt just the bottom line
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  1762. There aren't enough kangaroo arseh0les in AUS that I'd like him to eat Lying conman
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  1763. You need to get off the drugs Borders have 2 sides where going nowhere with the Tories who just keep spending billions on stuff that doesn't work and makes the problem worse
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  1764. its more like 5% your tax threshold should be 15250 at 20% not 12250
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  1765. Brexit was a pack of lies get used to the red tape escalating costs shortages decreasing business opportunities Every time we diverge from EU standards introduces more red tape and more compliance paperwork
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  1766.  @dirtydawg448  yes the only fit position for a Con is the unemployment queue, not that they would need it with their second and third jobs This is the worst government this country has ever had they've bust about every low in the book plus a load that aren't, their economic record is appaling the NHS is underfunded and falling apart deliberately so they can sell it off cuts to education lowering clean water rules so raw sewage is being pumped into our rivers and seas. Etc etc
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  1767. They culled the Conservatives in the party because they wouldn't back Boris's fantasy no deal which would have plunged Northern Ireland back into sectarian violence They then absorbed the dregs of UKIP so you've an English Nationalist wing the ERG who were never Conservative in the first place their Libertarian nut jobs completely divorced from economic reality.
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  1768.  @El.Cid17  I read the serious media FT Reuters Bloomberg not your fantasy cheerleader types our economy is fked As for migration people only came here because there were jobs Cameron/ Osbourne were all in on the low paid gig economy which exploded the workforce and lowered the corporate tax rate disencentivizing inward investment which improves productivity. Brexit impact so far since leaving is 5.5 % gdp Long term since 2016 our economy is over 10% smaller than it should be Since 2016 investment in UK plc has fallen off a cliff We now have a serious brain drain because graduates can get better paid jobs over in the EU who allow migrants in for certain skilled jobs
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  1769. The media pick the highest paid and laud it as the norm the vast majority of rail workers earns 15 pounds an hour down to 11 the rail bosses got 6% in September they've had a pay freeze for 2 years. What happened to Johnson's high wage economy?
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  1770.  @Barbarapape  they've had a pay freeze for 2 years and this isn't ab9drivers wages but the vast majority doing maintenance at all hours on betwee 11 and 15 an hour 5he rabosses got 6% in September
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  1771. Its going up because of Brexit and delays in delivery
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  1772.  @dogbreaththe3rd851  the net zero argument was lost in 2019 when renewable energy became on par with gas generation. Keep up
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  1773.  @Philiptanzer  300k net was the projected figure from the government to run a stable economy under Conservative Supply Side Economic theory which would grow the GDP enough. So at some stage the Tories will find a way of getting the immigrants in one way or another because if they don't the economy will implode and Labour will get voted in to fix it.
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  1774. Average wage is 14.62 an hour average nurse salary is 17.81 The media pick the driver's out forget the 99% of other workers
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  1775. what truth that she's Islamophobic? bigoted? Her greatest skill is her sheer incompetence and this is just to deflect how cr*p she is at her job
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  1776. Johnson was drunk most of the time as well and that didn't end well
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  1777. You can build good quality homes in a factory these days for onside assembly
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  1778. In what way Tice's manifesto is fantasy land from 100s of billions in unfunded tax cuts to unworkable migration + blighting the land with fracking
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  1779. Bungled? He did what he said he would withdraw, the war against the Taliban was lost over a decade ago, Trump releasing 5000 Taliban prisoners in 2020 and committing to withdrawal by May just hastened the day. So Nige oh expert on everything how would you have withdraw? You were busy bootlicking Trump last time I saw you.
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  1780. that didn't age well were bottom of the G7 growth pile only G7 country whose net workforce still below 2019 levels GDP not expected to get to 2019 levels till 2024 err last and last
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  1781. ​ @gerrytowie9618  the lying arsehole service
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  1782. Free Market Economist? Supply-side economics assumes that lower tax rates boost economic growth by giving people incentives to work, save, and invest more. A critical tenet of this theory is that giving tax cuts to high-income people produces greater economic benefits than giving tax cuts to lower-income folks. Essentially, the more money the rich are able to keep, the more the whole economy will grow. But the evidence reveals two fundamental problems with this story. First, its primary prediction is wrong—giving tax cuts to the rich does not increase economic output or create new jobs. Instead, tax cuts for middle- and low-income taxpayers are much more effective at boosting macroeconomic activity. Second, supply-side theory misunderstands the actual mechanism by which tax rates influence macroeconomic activity. While supply-siders maintain that lower rates at the top incentivize people to earn more money, the evidence shows that tax cuts boost output mostly by putting money in people’s pockets and thereby stimulating demand. Why is supply-side economics controversial? Opponents of supply-side economics argue that rather than increasing revenue for the government, lowering taxes will instead increase the deficit. As a result, the government will have to cut programs or raise other taxes to make up for this shortfall, unless it wishes to run a permanent deficit. So free Markets don't work for 99% of the economy
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  1783. ​ @Cherrytune386 same Thatcherite economic policies that drive high levels of legal migration
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  1784. For a family couple it's 3 million How much tax relief do you want. Dyson has been buying farms then renting them out pushing up prices so he can avoid IHT
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  1785. Are we getting this nonsense for the next 5 years Just to remind everyone Nige is being bunged over 1 mill by an offshore billionaire
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  1786.  @MsJackcool69  so you want to reuse drips how unhygienic is that? Just be grateful you got one at all and didn't have to pay a charge for every bag they connected. Why do you think it would be any different if it's private, the only consequences would be you wouldn't go into hospital in the first place because you couldn't afford the insurance premiums
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  1787.  @paulwainwright967  letting business people any where near it is the last thing it needs and don't regurgitate crap from the daily papers they don't have a fkin clue what there talking about and Blair has been out of power over a decade any problems are the Cons fault.
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  1788.  @edmundblackaddercoc8522  and you know how? Because it's regurgitated in the Daily hate Mail or the Bun If you want to know how efficient it is compare it's throughput with cost verses other countries systems or just don't spout tabloid crap
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  1789. If you want to crater the UK economy quicker than the Cons currently are then I guess
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  1790. And people will see the stark difference between an Elite class who wallow in money and a fiery norther woman who pays PAYE I dunno why the Tories think this is such a gotcha when there prosecuting carers for over payment and the 20,000 will bankrupt them
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  1791. what a nut job why is he even in spitting distance of winning?
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  1792. Oh yes they are We're seeing the culmination of Thatcherism as it enters its death throes, increased immigration to paper over the cracks of lack of investment with rising taxes to paper over all the asset stripping that goes into paying for it
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  1793. The right just buys all the media and uses it to pedal tax policy for the wealthy while poverty rates go through the roof
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  1794. World beating partying during lockdown World beating cost of living Crisis after With world beating inflation and World beating broken electoral promises When is a party not a party When its a Rave
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  1795. There appears nothing the Tories can't outsource maybe Nigeria could do it on the cheap
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  1796. Its called compulsory purchase so its nothing more than hot air coming out of Johnson's arse, they'd have to pay full market price then what? And people on benefits buying property look like the sub prime market that fetched the banks to their knees in 2008
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  1797. They can't the economy needs a steady supply of cheap migrant Labour as the Tories implement something called Supply Side Economics. If they don't have the labour to boost the GDP the economy will implode and spiral into stagflation
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  1798.  @nightowl7459  Osborne cut bursaries in 2010 as part of Austerity, all further education should be paid for by the state as far as I'm concerned, its an investment in social infrastructure. Osborne Cameron also refused to regulate gig work or clamp down on low wage zero hour The cost of a cheap Uber is high migration and offshore profits
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  1799.  @nightowl7459  in the example I gave you multi nationals fetched in EU workers on low pay which undercut domestic business not only was it fueling migration it was removing economic activity from the UK economy off shore. I'm retired but do zero hour as an invigilator at school reading for special needs kids. I'd suggest a job has to be certified as casual by a government agency in line with trade union and public representation discussions. And if your doing more than xxx hours over a 6th month period it automatically doesn't qualify. As for seasonal you get a contract for the season.
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  1800. By investing in renewable energy it onshores jobs, also its harder for companies to then move profits offshore. This has a net benefit to the economy increasing GDP and improves productivity. We currently have an almost tsunami effect of 14 years of Tory government to turn it round takes time and a conversation into what the drivers are as well as the positive and negative long term effects.  @nightowl7459 
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  1801. ​ @yatesy117 scrap vital infrastructure? It's going to have to be built and people sitting on their arse and not getting it done sooner with perpetual can kicking is the issue HS2 was always the most expensive part and the least bit needed the northern triangle of Birmingham Manchester Leeds should have been the priority with hs3
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  1802.  @ruthcollins2841  I don't think there's anyone who has looked at this in detail and on delivery mission would not agree we should have started Birmingham Manchester Leeds triangle But 20 mind isn't the issue it's creating a 2nd line to relieve congestion on existing lines
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  1803. It is all to do with tax if you reduce it you have less to invest in say nursing training so you need to import more Reform are talking utter BS when they say they will reduce tax and reduce migration
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  1804. Exports of goods fell by 4.6% in real terms the London service economy is fairly Border-less even so it should have done better synopsis London is OK the rest of the country is still in a deep post brex 1 t recession
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  1805. The FT described Brexit as an economic slow puncture every now and then someone kicks the tyre and makes it go down a bit faster ex Covid UKraine Truss's Budget but it settles to normal but still keeps going down. Most visible manifestation of frog boiling is the tax keeps going up the tax basis was 32% in 2019 then 33% in 2022 now rising again and until 2027 where its expected to be 38% You can also see it in car manufacturing which is in steep decline the big issue with manufacturing is Brexit broke the on-demand supply chain permanently items that were delivered next day can take weeks and your having to keep additional stock or simply move your manufacturing to Europe Enjoy your Turnip
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  1806. since when is spending 8 billion on a Bankers tax cut the same as funding NHS pay awards or a 4 billion tax break for millionaire pensioners instead of repairing RAAC in schools? @chriscurtain1816 
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  1807. Cheaper electric and a disconect from economic shock due to fossil commodity Volatility Did you know that the UK government spent 72 billion on energy subsidies last year and that energy costs for UK consumers jumped fro 30 billion in 2020 to 170 billion in 2023
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  1808. @marumaru6084  new renewable builds don't get a subsidy and haven't done for around 5 years, there the cheapest source of energy on the grid they reached parity with gas production back in 2019. Since when did you become an expert I used to work for 20 years for a generating company
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  1809. just getting rid of the Tories would improve the economy straight off
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  1810.  @kenoverton7918  you never know 400,000 jobs reshored in 2022, the IRA and CHIPS acts require that it's 60% made in the US.
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  1811. no the cost of a private health scheme will cripple the low paid and also its cost will be almost double what you pay now through taxation
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  1812.  @JMB1891  The NHS costs under 8% GDP for the UK a comparable system in Canada costs 10.5% GDP the US spends 17%+ gdp on private healthcare with millions uninsured and people regularly going into bankruptcy due to excessive health costs
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  1813. ​ @James_36 what sort of damage? Repair the economic train wreck left by the Tories? 13 years of complete and utter incompetence you'd have to go back to the Napolionic war era for comparison?
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  1814.  @James_36  the US currency is the world currency everything is quoted in Dollars also its economy has and is growing In 2010 GDP per capita (approx) US 50,000 UK 50,000 2023 UK 45,000 US 72,000 Quote Is the UK economy worse now than in 2008? Prior to the 2008 global financial crisis, the UK had been a strong performer among the Group of Seven countries. But this momentum was lost in the middle of the last decade. By 2022, real business investment was still slightly lower than in 2016—in contrast to the 14 percent increase among other G7 economies.11 Jul 2023 We also have zero plan to service the debt or grow the economy so can't expand borrowing ex- the Truss debacle
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  1815.  @James_36  REFORM aren't both Jermy Hunt and Rachel Reeve where to the recent presentation by the Resolution Foundation who presented a paper called ending stagnation authored by leading economists, Tice, Farage where nowhere to be seen Not that Hunt is going to do anything about it because the proposals are interventionist
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  1816.  @dragonfly6908  So to shit on people without much money you'd take an economic hit to your own standard of living and have NHS waiting lists through the roof. How stupid are you?
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  1817. Were out the EU what were you expecting?
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  1818. The issue is the Myriad of trickle down tax breaks introduced over 13 years to so call boost the economy they don't work but the Tories are wedded to them. ex millionaire pensioner tax break in the last budget cost 2 billion you know give that 2 billion to student nurses they spend every penny of it in the economy give it to millionaire pensioners and it goes straight into assets with ZERO growth
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  1819. If you pump 28 billion into renewable energy it has an economic multiplier of a minimum 1.6 which means for every £1 you put in it creates enough GDP to return £1.6 in additional taxation. As a pensioner this will help me enormously because it will lower energy costs and I'm home most of the day far more than any tax cut. Getting energy costs down to 2020 levels would be the equivalent to me of my tax going from 20% to 10%
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  1820. Firstly thank you for responding and people need to discuss this on a Macro Economic level rather than the dumbed down myopic version the MSM and Tory client media feeds us. The government budget is nothing like a household budget everything it does on tax and spend has a multiplier. We borrowed around 130 billion last year and your correct we are spending a lot of money on debt servicing. But A key component of the current core inflation figure is Energy. Reduce energy costs and you reduce inflation, reduce inflation and you reduce interest rates, reduce interest rates and you reduce government debt payments + reducing energy costs AND inflation will create more tax and spend in the economy creating additional tax revenues. So This is a quote from the US but we have just commissioned a Tesla MegaPack in the UK and reflects some of the savings you get with a renewable grid quote The Astonishing Economics of the Tesla Megapack By adding about 300 MW of storage, ERCOT will generate approximately $1 billion in savings in 2025 at a 1 off cost $700,000. @anonnemo2504 
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  1821. Just for comparison cost of Dogger bank wind farm was 11 billion, the supporting MegaPack in east Yorks is 350 million both come online this year. Hinckley C will produce about the same amount of electric when it comes online current cost 33 billion with 35 billion in subsidies over 35 years 10 years is a decent return on a domestic infrastructure outlay if you have the capital and aren't moving. Year 11 you have free electric and that's not counting inflation when I plugged in the figures recently I got it to 8 Years +5% inflation. If there was a government subsidy production would ramp up and costs fall further. @JamesBond-vn1gh 
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  1822. Untrue Labour clear the backlog and deport around 40,000 legally that are just sat there because of Tory incompetence costing 3.5 billion @rightray7463 
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  1823. Sunak makes him look like a giant in comparison just count up his Uturns on everything from tax to leveling up
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  1824.  @JimHighlander357  Your all in on tax hikes till 2027? Your wanting stagnant wages crumbling health system, justice system up the creek broken immigration system. And Do tell why you think being 6% worse off by the election is a vote winner? (according to the OBR)
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  1825. Brothers of Italy Fratelli d'Italia Ideology National conservatism Right-wing populism Neo-fascism Political position Right-wing to far-right So there not allowed to tell the truth now? Bloody typical of this station
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  1826. There are only 5% of the population define them themselves as Muslim what's your point
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  1827. There are 19 other cases in progress aside from this one young Donald has been a very naughty boy Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3) Tax evasion, money laundering, rape, inciting a riot, treason, theft it's quite a charge sheet
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  1828. A 2 state solution has been the recognised international position for 50 years Given the current Isrealie government are sanctioning ethnic cleansing what's your bright idea to force their hand to stop?
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  1829. why is the law a problem? its only when you repeatedly try and break it
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  1830. ​ @JonathanBird-m8s fracking Not taxing billionaire wealth
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  1831. In 5 years we will have economic growth for the 1st time in 14 years so why would we go back to shitty Tory policies
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  1832. @AconcernedUKcitizen  in 5 years the economy will have grown in real terms for the 1st time in a decade and a half because we're finnaly going to move away from trickle down to investment in social and physical infrastructure.
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  1833.  @leemccccccc999  nope voted Lib-Dem
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  1834.  @jimmynich4791  You can get more pay in the private sector and it's a tax efficient way for the government to keep staff and stop Churn. The cost of rehiring and retraining is exorbitant
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  1835.  @davidberry1226  60% of people employed are employed by small to medium businesses all UK based and UK owned. Any economic recovery is driven by them not the big manufacturers Small become medium -> Medium become Large Your fundamental problem is that brexit shrank the whole sector because of one indisputable economic fact TRADE GRAVITY Definition The gravity model of international trade in international economics is a model that, in its traditional form, predicts bilateral trade flows based on the economic sizes and distance between two units. Research shows that there is "overwhelming evidence that trade tends to fall with distance."
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  1836. It was a mehh Brown budget The issue here is you wouldn't trust Reform with a charity stall, anyone praising the Truss budget is a straight no under any circumstances
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  1837. @Phylicity  least worst option Starmer is OK, Reeve a bit meh Still 100 times better than anything the right have to offer at this point in time
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  1838. There only costing money because the Tory Party wishes to use them for political gesture politics. If they processed them 20,000 would be sent back and 60,000 would be working in the economy per year. Processing them saves 6 billion a year and having those who are accepted working generates GDP on top we have a population of just under 80 million 60,000 is nothing but a rounding error to put it into context 500,000 UK residents emigrated last year @rfurdaylee 
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  1839. Even without the measures the Queen would have isolated, Sweden who didn't have a lockdown the elderly shielded their population density and medical facilities where also other factors If we hadn't locked down we would have had the fridge vans full of dead bodies same as NY in saying that the whole thing was badly handled we could have opened up a lot more if we had stopped international travel same as NZ were an island
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  1840.  @roberttucker805  which over time reduced the death rate per 100k from the top in the US to near the bottom in comparison to other States.
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  1841.  @chrisspencer6502  any chance you can translate that into english I don't speak gobbldygook
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  1842. He was part of a government that pushed ULEZ expansion he's talking out of his arse because its politically convenient
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  1843. Working with your neighbours for the common good has real world consequences In this case 30,000 Irony truly is not dead when the sht hits the fan on a Brexit Ultra's watch the very thing they campaigned would make it better turns out to make it worse 4 times as worse or 30,000 times if your counting migrants
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  1844. All the Trickle down tax cuts and breaks don't pay for themselves ex millionaire pensioner tax break in the last budget cost 2 billion you know give that 2 billion to student nurses they spend every penny of it in the economy give it to millionaire pensioners and it goes straight into assets with ZERO growth and the energy market has been rigged by the Tories to squeeze us dry for corporate profit Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP.
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  1845. It's the cover up and the brazen lies that get them She could have virtue signalled her way through an online course
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  1846. REFORM promote the same NeoLiberal economic policies that drive legal migration get real
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  1847. So you want us to vote for a nut job Libertarian hellscape economy that serves the 1% instead?
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  1848. No she doesn't she's part of the elite and will say any old shyte and present complete bollox solutions to get ratings
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  1849.  @trevormappley  How do you know she voted for Brexit? What is being presented here is fodder for the gammons to keep the juiced. Refugees and immigration combined with demographics birth rates and structural investment in the economy have a complex interaction. She is supposed to have studied business and finance at University and had a career in TV before morphing into a talking head on GBNews. GBNews funding reveals it to be just another attempt by right-wing millionaires to control public discourse. It has connections with right wing think tank Legatum which pushes Supply Side Economics (low taxes for the rich fk everyone else) set up by billionaire Christopher Chandler
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  1850. Tax cuts are mind numbingly inefficient at stimulating growth the return on 1£ is about 20p its like pissing 80p up a wall and chanting growth 2 farmers plough using a horse give 1 a tractor you improve productivity give both a tax cut they have an extra pint down the pub
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  1851. What do Reform believe in? Their tax proposals are low tax twaddle aimed at helping the billionaire class and Their environment policy will turn areas round me into slag heaps as they frack for gas
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  1852. I don't have any lefty mates most are centrist at best. The UK is currently borrowing 130 billion a year as it is the economy is stagnant and no amount of tax cuts will increase growth because its never worked in 50 + years of trying. So if you can't grow the economy to pay for trickle down tax cuts you'll have to shrink services and depress wages further. Not investing in social infrastructure creates more and more skills gaps creating higher demand for migrant labour. and Fracking will only scar the landscape and produce no economic benefit to UK voters So basically there talking bollox on tax and immigration  @The_Dan_of_Kent 
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  1853. I don't have lefty mates there centrists at best If you don't invest in anything just cut tax you'll increase the demand for skilled migrant labour and increase Debt. If you shrink services further under the misguided belief it will help pay for the tax cuts you'll actually keep shrinking the economy. This will reduce overall tax revenue Economic Facts aren't left or right  @The_Dan_of_Kent 
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  1854. its populist propaganda disguising billionaire economic policy but hey you keep fooling yourself this bunch of elites give a sh1t
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  1855. she's useless and part of the problem Rwanda is just p1ssing money up the wall we need migrant labour because our ruling party runs supply side economics aka Thatcherism so needs Supply side Labour if you just cut it off without major internal investment which needs higher levels of tax you'll shrink the economy So vote left wing if you want less migration there the only ones who will invest in the UK
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  1856. How can they lower taxes? Their economic record on growing the economy is a big fat zero after 14 years gdp per capita has fallen 10% since 2010 quote Sustained economic growth increases average incomes and is strongly linked to poverty reduction. GDP per capita provides a basic measure of the value of output per person, which is an indirect indicator of per capita income.
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  1857. The only reason he's safe is Big Dog has knifed Sunak and surounded himself with AssClowns like Truss Mogg and Dorrie
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  1858.  @butters-vs-chaos  the substation is on the East Coast in Yorkshire Dogger Bank comes online 2022 which will power 6 million homes when fully operational 20% of domestic consumption. There's a tidal project off Orkney already over supplying the island they should be deploying more this year, EV purchases hit 20% of registrations in December but the fossils on this channel are bought and paid by the fossil fuel lobby and Con their viewers. This is all about tanking the net zero pledge because God forbid were energy independent and have long term lower bills and a greener future
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  1859. initiating trade barriers against yourself is a monumental act of self harm to the economy the OBR estimate was -4% GDP last study put it more like -6% that's the equivalent of a 6p tax cut on the 20% rate
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  1860. Only Wakeford out of the 3 defections is standing and he did so back when the polls weren't so bad Labour have already selected all their candidates and the last 2 defections had thier own reasons
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  1861. The answer to Conservative mismanagement is a more extreme version? You OK do you need a lie down
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  1862. Its the final nail in their coffin if you kept up with the tech renewables reached parity with gas on energy costs back in 2019 and EV's achieved cost parity with ICE this year and that's before economies of scale kick in. We have the worst insulated housing stock in Europe and the offer is what exactly get everyone up to A+ standards and save consumers 100's of billions? No way Tice's attitude is working people can fk off and keep paying outrageous amounts to the energy companies cos we don't care were not going to regulate to improve your life and wellbeing
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  1863.  @juliamacdonald294  you do know that capital expenditure on net zero will reduce your energy bills and even your taxes? Ex if a government building refurbishment spent +10% on uprating insulation to A+ standard the savings in energy costs would cover capital outlay in a couple of years reducing energy consumption permanently for the life of the building.
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  1864. Doesn't really work for 100's of kids + staff in a school  @kynchan3332 
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  1865. net zero will save money the longer you delay the more it will cost Quote The OBR concludes: the debt impact of future volatility in gas prices is at 13% of the UK gross domestic product (GDP) to 2050. This dwarfs the debt impact of 6% of GDP for investing in net zero. Second, it investigates the potential of new, growing energy solutions to cushion price volatility. Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP. read OBR report at gov website Fiscal risks and sustainability – July 2023 @Christophers-Assorted-Stuff 
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  1866. Right wing economic policy of low tax and under investment in the UK social infrastructure drives ever higher levels of immigration Now that's common sense
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  1867.  @pipins3616  what votes are they the activists are leaving in droves as the Tories career right chasing reform and their insane policies. Points migration system how did that work oh just quadrupled legal migration How about Brex1t oh just cratered our manufacturing an export economy even subdued our service sector
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  1868. Its economic strategy with climbing fossil fuels cost if you hadn't noticed, we've gone over the event horizon where renewables are massively cheaper OBR said Going Net zero Costs 6% GDP Not going Net Zero costs 13% GDP That 13% will climb steeply the longer we delay due to said fossil fuel costs
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  1869.  @veryhappychappy12  Mine was a builder we both had scholarships to what became private schools, he's done a bit better than me but not by that much I've still had a successful career Both the first person to go to university in our family At the time University was for the top 14%
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  1870. you need to pay for your staff, running everything as outsourced on a shoestring as we do now has major downsides
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  1871. There's mandatory workplace pensions I'm retired and have 3 pensions one being state pension
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  1872. Brexit ultras have been in charge for 8 years and the country is going bankrupt we have a hard brexit which isn't working the deal Frost made was a political fudge to stop the Conservative party imploding even the vaunted taking back control of our borders has been proven a complete myth
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  1873. The vote in 2016 was all things to all men from a full Norway to the hard Brexit we ended up with In 2019 Boris got a vote of 43% mostly on the back of Corbyn Since 2016 its estimated that 2.3 million leave voters have died and if you take the new voters would vote remain 70-30 the current state of the electorate based on the 2016 result would be 55% remain 45% leave just on demographics alone. Mogg doesn't have a clue on how trade works or if he does he's gaslighting our economy is sinking fast this is just another nail in the Brexit coffin
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  1874. The reason the economy is in the Toilet is lack of infrastructure spending over 13 years of Tory government with constant cuts which have shrunk the economy. If you cut more your entrenching economic decline into the fabric of the economy.
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  1875. What did you think would happen? We need labour in the care sector Before Brexit an EU nurse would come over a few would stay Now your Phillpino nurse fetches her husband and kida Hence 2019 200,000, 2023 750,000 This idiot can't fix it he's part of the problem
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  1876. Sunak is a Thatcherite we have Thatcherite trickle down policies with Austerity not a socialist policy in sight
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  1877. ​ @psy-op certainly last time lwere in we had well funded services and wage growth +20% Wages since 2010 a4e -7%
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  1878.  @misshs656  stupid thing to say
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  1879. @MrSirusDvirus  I'm 67 the Palestinians and Isrealies have been at war in some form since I first started voting at 18 why should I base my vote on which side a party takes? My concern is the high cost of energy, fiscal drag eating into my pension, RAAC in the local hospital and sewage in the river.
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  1880. 14 years of hard right economic Thatcherism + Austerity and there to left - deluded doesn't even come close
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  1881. I looked a bit deeper into this basically the Tories broke the Asylum system starting with May who seems to be the instigator of the most damage. They've stopped claimants from working They've slowed the process down to a crawl they've blocked off nearly all legal methods of claiming asylum bar treading on British soil They lied about Brexit taking back control (its way worse now than its ever been) And now there deliberately presenting legislation which will fail in the ECHR to try and convince you to give up your human rights we know the Tories are in it for their rich mates but c'mon stupid evil as well
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  1882.  @brianlaudrupchannel  since when? We have low tax (for the wealthy and corporations) being subsidised by ever increasing tax burden on the working and middle class, a classic sign of Supply Side Trickle Down economics aka Thatcherism unwinding as its numerous failures hit the economy. Lack of structural investment in the domestic population requiring ever increasing immigration to paper over the cracks Right wing economics eating itself alive
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  1883.  @IanMay-g5u  in 2010 Osborne reduced bursaries for Nurses and reduced training places for doctors This is social structural investment by year 4 you have a requirement for more nurses than you produce as the cuts filter through the system these cuts mean recruitment of foreign nurses By 2023 the cuts have caused a flood of migrant medical staff into the NHS primarily from Nigeria and India who fetch thier partners +200,000 net migration in 2020 becomes +500,000 in 2022 and +750,000 in 2023 Thatcherism and right wing economics at its finest, invest in nothing wast billions on trickle down tax cuts patch the holes with migrant labour rinse repeat except they've been at the wheel too long nothing left to plunder
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  1884. ​@melb5996 my dad jumped out of a plane and fought fascism in Europe to gain those rights and you want to p1ss them away for what?
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  1885.  @melb5996  since when? Who holds the government to account when they breach my human rights? Not this bunch that's for sure get real What's your beef about paying less for your energy and stop lining the pockets of fossil fuel multi nationals who want to squeeze every last £ out of governments and your pocket
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  1886. What do you use for brains?
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  1887. @chrisholland9124  latest budget 2 billion to millionaire pensioners 8 billion in tax breaks to bankers another 6 billion to fossil industry loads of others in there 2 Penny pinching the money from the lower middle class with fiscal drag and deliberately running down public services You could raise 15 billion from making CGT = to income tax rates that tax that Rhisi pays at 20% on his earnings rather than real people at 40 & 45 anyone voting Con deserves to be poor for believing the trickle down bullshit
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  1888. true a man of the elite and a man of the sun
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  1889. Reform will keep all the right wing trickle down tax cr*p that is blighting the economy and won't invest in UK skills and infrastructure same as the Tories
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  1890. Ipsos had them at 5 they got a 2 point bump to 7% because of the never ending Psychodrama in the Tory party on migration Based on By elections this is pretty generous Not that they have real workable policies so its a bit pointless voting for them
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  1891.  @nigden1  bs do you trust a government to do the Right Thing I certainly don't Hillsborough being a prime example Giving up your human rights to be a complete sh1t to boat people is insane
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  1892. @user-pf5th3hx1f  I've given up checking these stories from the likes of the Daily Fail and GBN there either entirely fact free or spun to an insane level, my advice to you is check the source then check the detail. And it's irrelevant I'm no giving up my human rights and you'd be dumb to trust any uk government to do the right thing just look at Horizon, Hillsborough the infected blood scandal etc.
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  1893.  @John-c2u3j  and where did you get this story from GBN the Daily Fail. I'm don't bother checking thier stories anymore there's that much spin goes into both those sources. And I've no intention of giving any government in this country the final say on my human rights
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  1894. Fossil development takes around 7-9 years from exploration to production. Over the past 5 years the North Sea Fossil companies have paid zero tax and renewable energy became the cheapest on the grid in 2019, renewable costs are expected to fall further by a considerable margin as it becomes a mainstream technology and its expected that battery prices per gigawatt hour will halve over the next 5 years. Labour will reintroduce insulation subsidies and new building regulations to improve home thermal efficiency If I where you I'd be more worried about the Tories getting in and this relentless push to keep us burning as much Fossil as possible prices are never going to go down to 2018 levels
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  1895. Reform spout Libertarian economic nonsense + a dose of Populism get real
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  1896. we have 40,000 people here who should have been deported already and aren't because she does nothing. All the talk of ECHR and UNCR is a distraction. She was speaking at a right wing Libertarian think tank The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research mainly funded by big oil such as ExxonMobil These people dont give a sh1t about working and middle class there sole purpose of existing is to screw as much money out the system for the billionaire and corporate class there no different to the IEA who where pulling Truss's strings
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  1897. If you want lower migration abandon Thatcherism stop voting in right wing parties raise taxes and invest in physical and social infrastructure Example Osborne cuts nursing busuries less nurses trained in uk Tories squeeze public sector pay experienced staff start leaving EU graduate nurses start filling gaps Brexit Number of nursing vacancies starts to exlode 2023 nurses recruited from Nigeria no fetch husband and kids with them
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  1898. ​ @SmartCookie2022 And what would Major have done with that inheritance certainly not rebuilt the NHS and Education system which after years of Tory rule was on its knees again. The Tories simply refuse to invest in the UK public siphoning of money into schemes that benifit the wealthy Case in point Sunak pa8d 20p in the £ tax on millions in income a graduate nurse pays just under 50% 4 billion in a Millionaire pension giveaway of 40,000 per person paid for by frozen tax thresholds
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  1899. They haven't had a rise, all they've got is enough to match inflation
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  1900. Tories have no morals how does that work
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  1901.  @James_36  that would be good for the majority of us given the abject failure of Right wing economics
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  1902. Hardly most outside the right wing echo chamber can see we get no economic benefit from subsidising multi national fossil companies to the tune of billions when it's cheaper to run renewables that we control
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  1903.  @janicebirch7522  1st off the fossil lobby bung the Conservatives a butt ton of money second its been labour policy to stop oil development for the last 5/10 years and move to renewables.
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  1904. Reform run extreme Thatcherism the same economic ideology that's been killing our economy
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  1905. The BOE had to bail out the Kwerteng budget to the tune of 130 billion in quantitative Easing along with the 700 billion printed through the Covid period you have a case of too much money sloshing round the system all of which has trickled up. Its why inflation has been so sticky a lot of it needs taxing out of the system the wealthy are on a spendathon bender quote Luxury goods boom in Britain as super-rich youngsters buck the recession Rich kids fuel sales of brands such as Burberry, Louis Vuitton and Gucci They’re young, rich and mortgage-free, and the scions of the 1% are having a roaring twenties. Despite the economic gloom currently shrouding the UK and many other western countries, sales of luxury brands have been booming and growing numbers of buyers are young adults. Swiss watches, Louis Vuitton trainers, rare Birkin bags and 81-year-old whiskies are among the products that are fuelling impressive growth in the bottom lines of luxury brands such as LVMH, Burberry and Kering.
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  1906. How about just process them quickly there where 80,000 applications last year around 80% will be granted asylum All this soapbox chest thumping is costing us 6-7 billion a year and changes nothing
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  1907. since when is he sensible he's still pedaling supply side reforms which if enacted would remove workers rights enable low quality foreign imports of food and goods cratering home grown business creating high unemployment with reduced labour laws your into a zero hour low wage economy centered round an elite service sector we need industry and farming and outside the City and home counties not more shyte in our rivers and seas with unfit for human consumption meat from tim buck too People seem to have little to no idea how supply side reform will bankrupt most UK SME's and farmers and remove all worker rights
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  1908. not more trickle down please 13 years of this imbecile policy and still people buy the coolaid
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  1909. Reform the party of 100 billion plus in unfunded tax cuts fracking and sponsored by a billionaire offshore owned TV channel with connections to Libertarian climate denying think tanks? Pass the lettuce
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  1910. why there giving them 100's billions in tax breaks to do it it then it goes on the world commodity markets we get fk all benefit the UK energy sector is fleecing us for 170 billion over the current crisis because where tied to Gas prices for generation If we invest in renewables its cheaper and stays in the UK under the control of the UK
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  1911. Renewable energy per unit is the cheapest on the grid Our energy is expensive because of lack of investment we still use standby gas generation at peak and the marginal cost of last mile energy dictates the eventual price
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  1912. You voted in the Tories which bit about controlling migration don't you get?
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  1913. Shore up the blue wall because Cruella was bleeding them poll points
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  1914. Tax cuts don't grow the economy the return is around 0.20p-0.30p in increased GDP growth so for every £ you cut in tax it generates 25p All there has ever been is the wealthy claiming it works we have 50 years of data which spells bullshit
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  1915. Blair / Brown +25% on average wages services that work Cameron /May -3% on average wages Johnson Truss Sunak -?? services that are run down to the bone and are on life support The tax-to-GDP ratio in the United Kingdom has increased from 32.7% in 2000 to 33.5% in 2021 debt to gdp rom 62% to a projected 103% in 2023 (don't blame the pandemic it was 92% in 2019) So debt has gone up with the Tories Tax has gone up with the Tories the only thing that's gone down is real wages
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  1916. Brexit is done well and truly this is its reality its time to stop pretending there's magic unicorns just round the corner
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  1917.  @Phil-bc2sd  Your tax is going through the roof with fiscal drag the tax basis in 2019 was 32% it will be 38% by 2027 Your also getting screwed with energy the Tories are letting the UK energy sector milk 170 billion in excess profits out of you Budget saw an 8 billion giveaway to bankers and 2 billion to millionaire pensioners as well as a tax cut of 6 billion to fossil fuel companies So bring on the Labour clowns I say we need some professionals on the job
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  1918. Yea but that opinion is based on Nige telling the truth something he's very Liberal with I'd certainly check this one from multiple sources
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  1919. If its so useful why are we wasting it by burning it then?
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  1920.  @ddoherty5956  You can make plastics from cellulose and other non oil based products
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  1921.  @Thurgosh_OG  we don't need oil for fuel the cost event horizon was back in 2019 since then the fossil industry have been fighting a rear guard action to slow down electrification and renewable deployment. With each 1/4 we see further developments and cost savings in both battery and renewable energy people seem to be under the illusion that companies like Tesla are new there not they started up 19 years ago the 1st wind farm deployment in the UK was 1991 where well along the S curve
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  1922. WRONG So why is it low paid oh I don't know maybe its got something to do with Tory policies shting on workers and unions all the time with such hits as Tupe and Zero hour contracts, lets not forget selling national assets off to our mates. Maybe investing (as has Germany) in a network of locally run truck stops with sanitary facilities and cheap overnight secure parking? oh lets instead just build a car park in kent and let the piss all over it and sht in bags
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  1923. Anyone voting for more right wing economics obviously doesn't understand cause and effect Don't invest in your domestic workforce or infrastructure patch up the economic holes with migrant labour, rinse repeat What was it now 1.25 million immigrants last year rising year on year?
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  1924. You could vote Labour who have said they will train our own Doctors and Nurses instead of importing them?
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  1925. Its the MSM right wing bias they just lie basically If you pump 28 billion into renewable energy it has an economic multiplier of minimum 1.6 which means for every £1 you put in it creates enough GDP to return £1.6 in additional taxation. As a pensioner this will help me enormously because it will lower energy costs and I'm home most of the day far more than any tax cut. Getting energy costs down to 2020 levels would be the equivalent to me of my tax going from 20% to 10% A Labour government will be better tax wise than a Tory one for the majority of people as they focus more on lifting up the lower paid which moves them off income and housing support. 40% of benefit claimants are now in work
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  1926. A crusty old fart that got people to vote for quadrupling migration then claiming it wasn't brexit wot done it?
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  1927. They wouldn't have us We do need frictionless trade though that thing the Brexiteers promised us would never happen that is no screwing over business exports and imports at every level
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  1928. What cards what sovereignty if you trade with the EU you follow their rules if you trade with the US you have to abide by theirs. And soon you will be loosing the right to protest
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  1929. Migration is the result of Conservative economic policy If you want lower migration change the economic model
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  1930. Who pays it? The bulk will be 2nd property owners and people like Sunak & Hu nt
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  1931. The government create the money I the 1st place its not yours to start with
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  1932. We peddling that Lie not Conservative enough? How much do they have to steal from the working people to pay for tax breaks for the wealthy and how bad do the services have to be to be a true conservative?
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  1933.  @bobsocks7575  Back in 2012 multiple Economists where flagging that the UK Austerity program was strangling the economy. Instead of an Economic Multiplier of 0.5 as originally forecast by the OBR the actual figure was found to be 1.7 and the IMF of all people where telling them. At that point with no plan B Austerity became government policy to shrink the state rather than recover the economy. quote from the IMF in 2012 The damning new report from the International Monetary Fund makes it clear that the UK recovery has stalled and will prove to be a major blow to Chancellor George Osborne, especially following the downgrading of forecasts for growth in the UK economy to just 0.2%. The stark warning from the IMF is Plan A isn’t working and they appear to have given the Government until Christmas to change course. Where still with PLAN A the Tories haven't moved on from Thatcher and the result is a skip fire for an economy. I've read Reeve's speeches the woman knows what she's talking about and its not radical its a take on Keynesian demand side.
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  1934. Why they will invest in services
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  1935. ​@DM-ki1bs net zero means it cost you bugg3r all to heat your home, stations like this campaign against it because there tied to the fossil lobby Or Maybe Ben is just stupid
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  1936.  @christopherckarkson5605  net zero makes energy cheaper, renewable is the cheapest on the grid since 2019 and to run them effectively you need mass storage and smart tech to time shift demand.
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  1937. The reason Labour had such voter efficiency was down to tactical voting and a relentless ground game, same with the Lib-Dems, thousands of activists treading the miles talking to voters and dispelling MSM hype BS and talking points Until reform does the hard work and has associations across the country with established councillors they will remain at 14 % and 4 seats
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  1938. ere doing mostly WTO now and if your part of the English nationalist crowd why do you care about NI? They actually wanted to stay in the customs union you've got your Brexit why make their lives an economic misery as well
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  1939. Or the 2 Billion he spent on a tax cut for the Bankers or the 20 Billion in unrecovered fraudulent loans or the Billions wasted in PPE contracts to Tory Donors or the 37 Billion wasted on test and trace or the billions wasted on Eat Out
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  1940. quite a bit of the issue is Brexit and government policy of managed decline in home produced food with the notion that Global Britain will somehow sail into a new age. Enjoy your Turnip Oh I forgot Thérèse Coffey’s ‘eat turnips’ message leaves bitter taste after UK’s biggest grower gives up Coffey said people should “cherish” specialist British produce, she seemed unaware that Britain’s biggest turnip grower was in her constituency – and had stopped growing them months earlier.
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  1941. Worse because what? There not spending billions on trickle down cr@p but using it to improve services
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  1942.  @anthonybartlett6924  the made up criteria by the right wing media? It's not a thing never was there allowed to claim asylum as soon as they enter uk waters its in a treaty we signed after WW2 Tying yourself in knots pretending otherwise is pointless
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  1943. I wish Labour were a bit more left sadly they have embraced a lot of centrism to get elected
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  1944. You'll get lower fuel prices with renewable the high cost on electric is down to using gas to generate electric especially the short term demand Offshore wind £40 per kilowatt hour contract price Nuclear £92 OffGem spot price £200+ The fossil industry will pump out all sorts of bollox to keep its cash cow delivering trillions in record profits Quote A multimillionaire Brexit donor funding anti-‘net zero’ campaigns is the director of a company with tens of millions of pounds invested in oil and gas. The revelation comes as chancellor Rishi Sunak is expected to bow to pressure from the motor industry and cut fuel duty in his spring Budget statement on Wednesday. Investment manager Jeremy Hosking has given millions to political parties including the Conservatives and Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party/Reform UK, as well as Vote Leave. Recently, he has been bankrolling Laurence Fox’s Reclaim Party, which has campaigned against ‘net zero’, and has been linked to a climate denial group.
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  1945. Only the most successful president 9f the modern era 48 bills many bipartisan passed in 2 years Reduced the debt from 132% gdp to 121% after the disastrous Trump term Reshored 400,000 jobs in 2022 with his policies The media have a narrative its generally a Conservative one try looking for a change instead of lapping it up
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  1946. Your comment drips with fake Nationlism you dont give a crap about this country or you wouldn't post such rubbish
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  1947. Reform don't give a sh1t about the working class bar conning you to get your vote Same old Trickle down Right wing cr*p different wrapper
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  1948.  @wavell14  I saw my gp and my mother saw hers the other week, we have overflowing waiting lists because there isn't enough capacity to cater for the number of covid patients and all the elective surgery. Germany has less people with Covid therfore more capacity to run as normal the NHS has been underfunded and run on a shoestring for the last decade under the Cons who have quite frankly no fkin idea how to run anything. Private healthcare cost a fortune in personal and family premiums the Cons would like nothing more than to sell it off and leave the workers to carry the can for thier persistent failure
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  1949. They couldn't do any of it is usual populist BS ex Everyone knows tax cuts don't grow the economy, last person to try it lasted less time than a decomposing lettuce.
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  1950.  @Helen-nl9lv  He's a multi millionaire serving multi millionaire interests. GBN is their propaganda tool
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  1951. Since when he's sticking up for a lying toerag with the vision of Stevie Wonder
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  1952. If the morons rioting had been black they'd have opened fire straight away
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  1953. She was on a low salary paying PAYE when she bought the flat becoming an MP in 2010 and still being on PAYE when she sold it Only rich people involve themselves in tax returns and you don't need to live in a house to claim exemption from CGT People will see very rich people getting away with millions while the state hounds working class people for a few pennies as in the latest scandal with carers, this isn't the Gotcha the Cons think it is it just alienates Tories even further from the working class
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  1954. Tax wise I can't afford another Tory government I've got absolutely hammered this last 5 years and There NI cuts will be paid for by raising Pension age from 66 to 68 costing my household £25,000
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  1955. why would a centre right Tory touch Reform with a barge pole, the biggest grouping of Con voters all in Remain blue wall constituencies
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  1956. That's not Tice there economic policies are even worse than the Cons
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  1957. Its central government policy ie Tory policy JRM is a weasly lying AHole
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  1958. 1st it's not a criminal investigation if it's by HMRC 2nd your talking about investigating someone who was on PAYE not deliberately screwing the system for millions with offshore accounts, this isn't the gotcha the Tories think it is with the Carers scandal just emerging it shows a system that hounds working people for pennies while allowing the elite to stick 2 fingers up at us.
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  1959. Why is the Labour Party the Lib-Dem Party and the Greens unelectable? We've had 12 years of economic stagnation culminating in the current bunch who are even worse than Cameron and May For the record Average wage growth under Blaire / Brown +25% Average wage growth under Cameron / May -3% Under Johnson its projected to be -3/4% with 8% inflation on what planet is the alternative worse?
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  1960. jeez your such a mug the guy is an elite lying toad
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  1961. The government know about this but prefer to not engage and are trying to remove as many rules and safeguards as possible. Its the ideology of the small state and low regulation you'll get it with all right wing parties and if they have a populist bent you'll get the unworkable shit solutions that cost a fortune like the current Cons are proposing. Don't think UKIP or REFORM would be any better its a mindset that offers populist rhetoric instead of real world solutions.
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  1962. Net zero reduces electricity costs and training additional doctors and nurses reduces net migration it sounds infinitely better than the Tory offering
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  1963.  @HonestBottom  I agree about the illegal part The Cons being in power for 13 years is the core problem they don't believe in government, if you don't value your staff or are always blaming them for your failures + wage suppression then what incentive is there? We're also seeing the fallout from the failures of the Thatcher era, raw sewage in rivers, astronomical price gauging in the energy market and years of pumping billions into right to buy stripping councils of vital housing assets leading to budgets of up to half being spent on housing support.
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  1964. Yes it was And Economic experts have been saying that there was a budget shortfall
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  1965. ​@richardgallagher4088 reform are pedaling more extreme nonsense than the Tories You can't pull 50 billion out of taxation with brex1t and not suffer consequences
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  1966.  @345seadog  they would be far worse Lettuce Liz economics with Fantasy immigration policy The reason immigration is so high is lack of structural investment in the UK population, doubling down on low tax and zero investment + chocking off immigration which is the only thing keeping this right wing Libertarian model afloat would contract the economy that badly we'd be labelled Argentina on the Thames
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  1967.  @duality5503  there's no roots to go back too, Thatcher moved the needle so far Right that to gain any success at all the Labour Party needed to be centre left rather than left. She spent over a decade bribing people with windfall money from oil and privatisation now non of that is left My mum is 92 she voted Labour Post war they bought a house had a family and she then slid to voting Tory, a load of post war people became disillusioned with the endless strikes, there never will be a keep the red flag flying government ever again we need to get rid of the Tories and move to a centre left government then move the needle as left as the majority will allow. Reality
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  1968. How about we process them instead of doing this dance of if we make their lives miserable and spend millions doing it it will deter more boats you really have to be thick if you get conned by this because all the government is doing is wasting GOBS of taxpayer money making the problem worse 2010 people in the Asylum system 20,000, 2023 140,000 claims in 2022 ran at 60,000 peak claims where 2002 at 80,000
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  1969. Billionaires telling us what we need how does that end?
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  1970. ​ @Lorraine-p4r and that's bad why? Its not like reform policies are any more workable than the Cons
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  1971. That's because it was all lies by a section of the political elite who are still pedaling a false narrative that If Only then it will work The actual economic costs are astronomical hope you've got savings you'll need them
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  1972. whats patriotic about turning the UK into the North Korea of Europe I've never heard anything so stupid The Brexiteers promised Singapore on Thames they delivered Argentina on the Channel
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  1973.  @rinaa6865  try reading the FT instead of comics like the Express Bloomberg Reuters FT have all published numerous articles on the UK economic decline because of Brexit How stupid do you have to be to think that destroying the on demand supply chain and erecting huge trade barriers with a market of 430 million 20 miles away wouldn't lead to a severe economic contraction
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  1974.  @rinaa6865  I didn't use the Sun because all it bangs on about is migration same with the Mail If you extrapolate the measures and budget put in by Brown the economy would have been 15% better off by 2019 these are what ifs in the end we ended up with Austerity causing economic stagnation a deliberate lack of regulation on the emerging low wage zero hour gig economy which saw a massive influx of EU labour with little to no macro economic benifit and the rise of UKIP leading to 2016 At that point our currency devalued by 30% and large scale international investment ground to a near halt
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  1975.  @stephenrichards5386  if you look at the overall growth graph its the highest recovery from the biggest post covid fall UK gdp is below 2019 and isn't expected to reach that level till late 2024 every G7 country bar us has already exceeded that Numbers of people in full time employment is 200,000 below 2019's total our tax base has shrunk We have over 1 million vacancies with 130,000 in healthcare alone We're an economic basket case
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  1976.  @davidbond5448  one group voted to kick out Johhny foreigner from stealing thier jobs and women and wanted state aid to level up another group believed in the delusional idea of a deregulated global Britain. Both ideas are at complete odds with each other you can't have both There is no atyipical leave voter it was always a miss mash of contrary wishes and ideas
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  1977.  @stephenrichards5386  When you say EU - UK trade is up take away North Sea oil and gas and exports are down by 14% So if your a North sea oil and gas producer that pays no tax then hey the sun is truly shining
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  1978.  @stephenrichards5386  Every report I've read has shown exports in goods and services have fallen by between 14% - 22% Export of gas has jumped up by a large margin the underlying economy is contracting.
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  1979.  @stephenrichards5386  The Russian economy is screwed exodus of 1.5 million workers Plus conscription plus sanctions You can keep a zombie economy going for a while with currency reserves but Russia is not the USSR by a country mile it can't even service its own oil wells properly it used to import oil engineers. The UK economy is highly service based those services have been bleeding away since 2016 in drip drip fashion. The economy outside of London and the south east has large numbers of SME's with integrated supply chains into the EU and used to export a lot of product. For small traders that business went overnight when we left the imposition of draconian levels of paperwork has reduced exports and also had a big effect on the supply chain which used to operate on-demand throughout Europe with turnaround of 1/2 days that's morphed into weeks if not months in some cases. Large scale investment to replace say car plants will no longer be made in the UK and a large slice of any economic recovery is done by SME's who are handcuffed at every turn. Onto energy Germany has pivoted away from Russian gas which it was a customer to the tune of 40% building a new LNG terminal and making structural changes to its energy policy and the UK government has done sweet FA Onto the US they will invest 1.75 trillion in green energy initiative pivoting their economy away from fossil and also relocating key industries to the US Compared to the UK government which is zero on renewables
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  1980.  @stephenrichards5386  Russia is manipulating thiers and it will stay the way till it doesn't and collapses completely. Russia is an Oil Company running a state and is completely riddled with corruption
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  1981.  @111111877  so one is spending 1/2 a billion on Rwanda the other will save 3 billion by processing the refugees One has instigated 20 billion in trickle down tax breaks the other proposes debt forgiveness for NHS nurses to cut the churn and cost of agency staff There are hundreds of differences you just don't want to look and sit in your blinkered media narrative bubble
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  1982.  @111111877  there are hundreds of differences if you care to look if your going to walk around with blinkers and spout a media narrative like a nodding dog then that's your problem
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  1983.  @SmartCookie2022  we don't have the skills in the public sector since the Thatcher asset stripping years to manage public projects and we don't have the borrowing capability since 2010 debt to GDP was 62% its now 100% plus Truss killed off the ability for borrowing expansion and Hunt/Sunak borrowed 130 billion last year using part of it on magical tricle down tax cuts that are driving gilt yields South. On PPP it was stupid of Brown to do it because interest rates were low now we have no choice if you want investment
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  1984.  @rfurdaylee  trickle down tax cuts Last year my tax went up by +£400 that was used partly to fund a tax break for millionaire pensioners of £40,000 per annum That money out of my pocket went straight out of the working economy into a rich basts asset pot because I would have spent it and as a pensioner I do not want to subsidie millionaires
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  1985.  @rfurdaylee  they get the door slammed in thier faces round our way no one wants fracking or deregulation with more sewage in our river
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  1986. Why would you vote REFORM their Tory with added be evil to refugees Their economic policy is a cut and Paste from Lettuce Liz You remember her the one that single handily nearly crashed all UK pension market and left a 60 billion hole in UK finances while bumping up interest rates by 1.5 points?
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  1987. So wrong, the NHS is funded with < 8%GDP the lowest in the western world A comparable system in Canada is funded with 10.5% GDP a privatised systems typically consumes 12.5% plus GDP the worst offender is the USA with 17%+ and millions uninsured
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  1988. we've pumped in over 500 billion in oil subsidies over the life of the Brent fields 42 billion over a decade is not a lot and Renewables hit price parity with gas generation back in 2019 so non of it is now subsidised all wind and solar forward contracts are fully subscribed to
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  1989. Net zero conversion will cost 4 trillion over 10 years. Staying as we are so I'll give you the current numbers I have energy spend in 2021 was 30 Billion projected spend in 2023 is 170 billion due to gas price volatility. If you Multiply the Current Excess figure over 10 years that's 14 trillion. The question is do you gamble on not going net zero in the hope that a commodity traded on world markets that you have ZERO price control over will come down enough and remain stable enough in the next 10 years. @andrewcoxhead6451 
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  1990. There economic policies are identical to Liz Truss's minus the supply side Labour And We know how that ended
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  1991.  @marksavage1108  58% support centre left 20% support thhe Tories who he is trying to destroy.
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  1992.  @marksavage1108  I checked out his personal ratings in the polls (done prior to the latest racists outburst and pre Ukraine comment) Favourable +30 Negative +60 rest don't know Sunak was +18 but we know why
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  1993. Wouldn't mattered who was in charge because Brexit is an economic train wreck and 50 years of asset stripping Thatcherism has run out of road
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  1994. This is just recycling the dead story about Barisma which was debunked as fake news during Trump's 1st impeachment Biden publicises his tax returns has done for 20 years
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  1995. Right wing economics got us here and you want more extreme Right wing economics How does that work exactly? If you don't invest in training up Nurses you need to import them, if your not in the EU they fetch their dependants with them it's not rocket science Tice is selling Right wing fan fiction nothing more it doesn't work we've had a spell of 13 years showing how badly it doesn't work
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  1996. Hush the change to renewables will lower bills It's the same old Con invest in nothing blame everyone else Reform are a worse version of the Tories
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  1997. Why the stats show an increse in productivity from home working You know who's moaning and bitching to get people back its the Papers peolple don't buy them to read if they don't commute, its te big property owners who wil see their precious office space empty Also your able to recruit from a wider pool of people because they no longer have to live near the main centre the old way is dead welome to the Tech revolution
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  1998.  @garagenigel  More like kitchen tables and spare bedrooms On another note I live in a well off area and loads of people have been building extensions and garden rooms, people in well paid jobs that can remote work are embracing it as the new normal.
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  1999. Net zero reduces energy bills by disconnecting your economy from fossil commodity shock, fossil is traded on world markets with prices set by cartels
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  2000. They shouldn't keep making stupid dumb as fk ones then Parliment might consider governing for all the people not just the fkwit science denier crowd
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  2001.  @Rossi593  government that doesn't care about the law is the problem
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  2002.  @Rossi593  no they don't if you had Politicians appointing them they would Your just pissed because you've been fed a load of bullshit about leftie lawyers and judges getting in the way. The policies the government are putting forward are designed to fail first so they can blame somone else and if your stupid enough to tag along remove the indipendence of the judiciary so they move to an Authoritarian model.
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  2003. No it isn't the big issue is processing them in a timely manner 80% are given asylum anyway and they just clog up the immigration system for over a year in most cases
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  2004. They wear masks regularly over in Asia cuts down on flu colds and smog in crowded spaces so they ain't going away. You ridden the tube in London?
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  2005.  @anthonydoyle7370  You forget the elite cabal have moved up several notches to the elite hedge fund manager and foreign business billionaire. One look at Rhishi's budget should give you a clue anyone under that can be horse traded
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  2006. Liz was delusional It's overall Conservative economic policy that's the problem wouldn't matter who they put up bar the crazies like Liz
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  2007. ​@rajarshisarkar999 if you can't get by on a 5 million tax exemption then tuff
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  2008. My tax has gone up by £550 because of fiscal drag, I have a small works pension, my new take home with both added is still low income level my real pension increase is £450 not £900 food inflation is running at 7% and has been over 25% over the last few years, your also +5% council & water so a real term cut in living standards again.
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  2009. ​ @James_36 it won't because the economic model that's shrinking the economy and driving up legal migration will change from Tricle down Thatcherism to a Keynsian demand side. Slowly at 1st and all reform offer is turbo charged Thatcherism the model that's killing the economy at the momment
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  2010. spaffing millions on an illegal show pony The tories are an utter disgrace the economy is going down the toilet and there wasting time on trying to get people deported to a concentration camp in east Africa
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  2011. @angelafirst38  tax base rose from 33% in 2019 to 37% this summer. The OBR prediction is it will rise to 38% by 2030. Personally my pension will go up with inflation, my wife's tax hasn't changed and my son got a bump from the minimum wage going up. My local hospital got 22 million to remove RAAC. The people making all the noise about tax appear to be rich with loud voices on the media. So why do you echo thier voices?
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  2012. There are no positives except getting rid of the worst government that's ever been in power in this country for lets hope a couple of decades The CONservatives haven't got a fkin clue
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  2013. you can't do anything with them if you don't process them Starmer is targeting the smugglers not the smuggled cooperating with the people who run the border on the other side reclassifying people smugglers in the same light as organised crime and seizing their assets plus getting rid of the backlog that's costing us 8 billion The Tories offer is to shout a lot about the smuggled as if that will brig down the numbers hint it won't
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  2014. The guys a sycophantic Johnson apologist, His job as a turd and polisher isn't going well
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  2015. 1st off if you don't own the Utilities the only method of getting policy through is with grants and taxation Gas is cheap up front costly long term Wind is expensive in infrastructure up front costs cheaper long term So called Green taxes penalise fossil generation to promote cleaner alternatives the money raised is less than 2 billion which is the same as Sunak's budget tax cut for bankers. There is currently plenty of capacity on the grid the issue with EV'S and structural changes to energy is load balancing this year alone Hinkley C will come on stream with capacity to supply 7% of the UK domestic electricity and Dogger Bank wind 5%. You can save vast amounts of energy using the EV'S themselves to do localised load balancing using smart meters and vehicle to grid technology. Heat pump technology is not here yet and is also unsuitable for 99% of uk homes Vacuums are all going cordless with inivotive designs to make them highly efficient and using a fraction of the power needed for a corded version As an aside Dogger bank forward contract price is £40 per kilowatt hour Hinkley C £92 and current OffGem price is 200+ with fossil in the mix if you want to fetch the price down quickly insulate the 19 million sub par homes which will instantly reduce the demand causing the market price to fall
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  2016. the problem with the conservative party is Thatcherism aka Trickle down low tax supply side economics It feeds on migrant labour or does she not support low tax (for the wealthy) low investment economy?
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  2017.  @MrThewillows  there are a myriad of tax breaks in the code for the wealthy which need removing which is why the tax base has shot up in the last 5 years from basically being stable for 2 decades. The Conservatives are not the party of low tax they are the party of low and no tax for the wealthy
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  2018. ​@steveb951 we need mass storage to smooth demand so we're not using standby gas peak plant
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  2019. A chancellor that wants to balance the books for a change?
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  2020.  @El.Cid17  we've been in recession for 2 years you get one quarter of growth of 0.6 and all of a sudden were world beating and this quarter it's back down to zero as for exports you really need to get your facts sorted quote UK trade volumes suffer record five-year decline Financial Times Mar 2024 The volume of UK goods imports and exports was 7.4 per cent smaller in 2023 than in 2018, the largest five-year decline in goods trade since comparable records began in 1997, according to FT calculations of data published by the Office for National Statistics on Friday.
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  2021. So one lying right wing arsehole gives his opinion on another right wing lying arsehole Yea right
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  2022. ​ @stevioc3592 cure the problems of Thatcherism with more extreme Thatcherism no thanks
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  2023. If you defund the Police Justice System Prisons and Councils you'll get more crime which in turn blights the economy to the tune of billions. What is it with you small state people that empties your brains out on cause & effect?
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  2024.  @rogerwoodhouse7945  You don't get it the Cons are just the arms of the Millionaire/Billionaire class The think tanks spouting low tax connected to the government are Lobby groups including the Fossil industry. Back in 2019 Renewables became the cheapest energy source on the grid but we have the Fossil lobby to thank for slowing to a crawl adoption and got a 6 billion tax break in the last budget. Debt to GDP in 2010 was 62% it was 92% in 2019 and just under 100% now the Tories are an economic disaster for the Low and middle class
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  2025. ​ @cassandrade-wolfe6926 I don't need it as do 80% of us
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  2026. She's more an adult than you sat back and doing nothing about global warming bar bad mouthing someone with real conviction
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  2027.  @geoffreymollart7311  she's Autistic her world view is different why people slag off what they clearly don't understand beats me the lemmings on this channel that swallow the guff the Fossil companies pedal and spoon up drivel from idiots like this who clearly hasn't a frikin clue what he's talking about Quote Switching from fossil fuel energy to renewable energy sources could save trillions, a recent report involving the University of Oxford has found. Furthermore, the faster we make the switch, the more money we will save.
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  2028. @voice.of.reason  give it a rest Thatcher threw millions on the dole in the pursuit of Globalisation and tax cuts for the wealthy The 1980s saw the biggest transfer of wealth from the public to corporations leading to sh1t in the rivers and astronomical energy bills, the entire North Sea legacy was blown on tax cuts nothing for the future.
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  2029. @voice.of.reason  Thatcher asset stripped the country turned whole towns in the North towasteland and used the money + oil money for a one off tax giveaways and is one of the main reasons things are so sh1te today
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  2030. There are no benefits of Brexit never was never will be it was and always will be a complete economic car crash currently costing our economy over 100 billion a year which is a loss to the treasury of over 35 billion in tax and that's just the ongoing damage. Car production has halved in the last few years long term investment halved after 2016 People telling you there was a pot of gold at the end where lying or stupid or both
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  2031. Working class voting for Toffs peomisinng magicc unicorns again. Gullible or what 😂
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  2032. why don't you want cheaper energy?
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  2033. You don't think Sunak's +23 tax rises aren't a bit of pot kettle and black+
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  2034. If your low wage you will pay on average less middle around the same it's more for wealth generated from wealth and an equalization of the tax burden
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  2035. The government is pissing billions up the wall on agency and supply staff because of the shortages Why is that not the main issue your just trying to justify the government making people poorer why?
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  2036. They also want fracking so basically a destroyed countryside with no pollution regulations, I presume they will ignore the sewage crisis as well  @brettsinclair4957 
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  2037. The left haven't missed a point they just don't care maybe we should join the EU to get guarantees like this If you are legally resident in an EU country you are entitled to open a "basic payment account". Banks cannot refuse your application
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  2038. He's a false prophet who is either lying deliberately or stupid If you want to reduce net migration you invest in your domestic workforce rather than importing say doctors and nurses, you invest in robotics, smart tech etc.
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  2039. Lying about the march and getting a load of Yobo's to turn up to the Cenotaph where they got into a melee with police injuring 6 with 100 arrests. which bit of that is strong or outspoken?
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  2040. I'm sure the injured policemen don't think so @Boobobear 
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  2041. Johnson's Brexit is a complete economic disaster well done for voting to make yourself poorer
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  2042.  @chris-4566  we had the hardest Brexit possible bar no deal Musicians can't tour Europe because of Brexit Companies are swamped with red tape paperwork and additional costs because of Brexit Each and every small economic dagger kills a part of the economy in a death by a thousand cuts
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  2043. Habib and the rest of the Brexit Ultra's don't have a clue how international trade works or economics for that matter and the importance of tariff free paperwork free red tape free VAT harmonised trade is appear to grasp that it's costing over 40 billions its costing in lost taxation alone and strangling small business growth who employ 60% of the UK workforce Our economy is shrinking fast
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  2044. Sending people to Rwanda is utterly wrong inhumane and needs to stop, behaving like fascist assholes just coz a bunch of Mosley wannabe politicians think they can use refugees for political is sick
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  2045. And how thick are they? Vote for brexit get 3rd world migrants + dependents instead of European
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  2046. if you want to curb migration you need to raise tax revenues skill your workforce and regulate the economy in a way that supports domestic workforce as well as infrastructure investment to improve worker productivity Reform are proposing to deregulate and lower taxes (Truss style) while choking off supply side Labour which will crash the economy at worst continue the same economic Doom loop at best
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  2047. Octopus do a night tariff with V2G capability they use a smart switch to use load off your battery for grid smoothing (saves them buying gas generation) your then getting spare Off Peak energy at knockdown prices
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  2048. There not interested in trying to woo back stupid people who drank in all the lies peddled by the Brextremists its pointless If your dumb enough to believe that putting trade sanctions on yourself making companies fill in thousands of pages of paperwork which in itself cost billions as well as the billions in lost trade because flags then really there's no point trying to talk to them
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  2049. Its not EU red tape its UK red tape and there will be more and more of it if you diverge
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  2050. Its saving money now V costing double treble down the line Going Net zero Costs 6% GDP Not going Net Zero costs 13% GDP That 13% will climb steeply the longer we delay
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  2051. ​ @veyronlh512 if you call normal a 4.2% drop in living standards and a pice hike of 20% across the board over 2 1/2 years while the government did nothing then when it did do something it spent 600 million on rwanda
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  2052. no it isn't, Sunak has already spent 20 billion on 2 NI cuts as well as freezing the thresholds, pensioners are already paying +£550 in tax because of it and that 20 billion is unfunded there is no fiscal headroom we borrowed 130 billion last year and payed out 120 billion in interest on borrowings of 2.3 trillion
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  2053. They never stood for the normal people anyway, the Thatcher era was built on pissing away money from the North sea and selling off public utilities (mostly to the French) The current lot of Tories just piss away money and tell you to kiss the ring piece
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  2054. we have an energy crisis which needs investment in and there promising to lower taxes for the wealthy how does that work? If you pump 28 billion into renewable energy it has an economic multiplier of a minimum 1.6 which means for every £1 you put in it creates enough GDP to return £1.6 in additional taxation. As a pensioner this will help me enormously because it will lower energy costs and I'm home most of the day far more than any tax cut. Getting energy costs down to 2020 levels would be the equivalent to me of my tax going from 20% to 10%
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  2055. You don't have to live somewhere to claim CGT on it, it just has to be designated as your primary residence and after a year you can't be prosecuted for CGT irregularities anyway. So why all the noise from the RW propaganda outlets? This has already backfired and is seen by many as rich people trying to screw over the working class while they coin it in
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  2056. Its empty promises you can't make Brexit work it was only ever designed to patch the Tory party together its an ideological dead end Nothing alters the fact that due to trade gravity Europe will be our biggest importer and exporter so putting up trade barriers then hiring millions of staff from India to plug worker shortages then pretending you can suddenly sell stuff half way round the globe at a competitive price is completely delusional. The Tories have totaly fked the economy now we're paying with higher taxes and higher food prices there's a de facto border down the Irish sea and double the number of Asylum claims. Claiming that there not doing it right is bollox Global Britain = Complete globalization unfettered market access to any country round the world to our economy and unlimited inward migration to suppress wages the rich will get disgustingly wealthy and fk everyone else
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  2057. A party run by elites with a pro fossil and billionaire economic agenda? You serious?
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  2058.  @kevinb9830  free movement wasn't the cause of the wage depression it's government policy. There doing it now with the points system for anyone around the world to come here undermine professional and middle class salaries
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  2059. @kevinb9830  it's still government policy under Labour average wages went up by 25% minimum wage when it was introduced jumped it 15% in one go under the Conservatives fire rehire was tolerated as was the expansion of zero hour deregulated gig economy which replaced better paying jobs through offshore companies who paid zero tax and a huge very low paid migrant labour influx. Don't blame migrants they just go where the jobs are we've always had the power to regulate the labour market blame government
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  2060. There policies are governed by spending controls from Whitehall the Tories don't want to invest in anything all you hear is tax cut tax cut meanwhile schools and hospitals are falling down
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  2061. you could join the single market and introduce FOM no voted to leave either Norway are not in the EU yet we've had the hardest possible brexit rammed down our throats because you believed in complete lies
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  2062. ​@bridgetholbourne6849 they'll reduce migration, the issue is Conservative supply side trickle down economics you need to constantly feed it migrant labour You can't reduce migration without investing in physical and social infrastructure and moving away from the low tax on the wealthy model
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  2063. ​ @loracle540 no they won't the problem with the economy and migration is Supply side trickle down low tax (for the rich) economics you need to feed it constantly with migrant labour To get migration down you Need to invest in the UK the Tories have cut it to the bone
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  2064. Why would you ever vote Conservative I'm curious since the age of Thatcher they have pushed Supply Side Trickle Down economics that has devastated large parts of the country and Reform are a more extreme version. Germany managed to keep large parts of its manufacturing during the change we just boarded ours up, the Thatcher economy was kept afloat by Asset Stripping, Oil Money and Council House giveaways with the money plowed into bribing a generation. Blair / Brown slowed it right down as soon as Cameron came in it was back to Supply Side Trickle down with devastating effects which are going to see 2 decades of economic stagnation. As an example 2 billion was in the budget for millionaire pensioners that had to be paid for by freezing tax allowances at the bottom This is what you kept voting for quote Luxury goods boom in Britain as super-rich youngsters buck the recession Rich kids fuel sales of brands such as Burberry, Louis Vuitton and Gucci They’re young, rich and mortgage-free, and the scions of the 1% are having a roaring twenties. Despite the economic gloom currently shrouding the UK and many other western countries, sales of luxury brands have been booming and growing numbers of buyers are young adults. Swiss watches, Louis Vuitton trainers, rare Birkin bags and 81-year-old whiskies are among the products that are fuelling impressive growth in the bottom lines of luxury brands such as LVMH, Burberry and Kering. Imports of Swiss watches to the UK were up by 31% in the first half of 2022, according to the Federation of the Swiss Watch Industry – the average spend at the Watches of Switzerland group being about £6,000. Meanwhile, sales of watches below £2,500, sometimes referred to as “mid-range”, are falling.
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  2065.  @chkldstgee2433  Reform are just Old Elite white people completely out of touch with reality pedalling the same shyte Trickle Down Supply Side Economics that has blighted the economy for 13 years.
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  2066. @clark kent  this piece is designed to make you outraged it presents a tub thumping solution which is completely unworkable and unobtainable while rolling you up about immigrants I'm a Technical Analyst when all the migration rhetoric started getting heated before the referendum I did a deep dive into the topic, historical, social and economic So here's a few facts which people like Nige don't want to talk about The UK birth rate is 1.6 it needs to be 2.1 to maintain the current population I did a quick calculation we need about + 250k to remain stable An EU migrant pays approx 80,000 more in tax than someone born in the UK to the exchequer and a non EU migrant 28,000 Without a stable population the tax burden on workers will steadily increase to cover the shortfall of an aging shrinking population What we need is an adult conversation about where we get the 250k what skills we require no migration at all isn't an option and then another adult conversation about do we want to expand our economy if so is there a case for more migrants. The Tories saying one thing then doing another isn't a surprise big business will be pressuring them and they think they can get away with throwing some red meat into the debate to distract with Rwanda
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  2067.  @richardwalton6993  There's no public mandate for this and the only people pushing for this are the nut job Ultra's and people like you who either don't understand or are deliberately choosing to wreck the UK economy.
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  2068.  @Casual_laughter  Taxes are not high by European standards and the rich don't pay any in the UK anyway. Monopoly supermarkets + brexit have seen a +7% inflation over food prices in the EU What happens with independents closing is Mainstream companies price gouge Yer not over bright?
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  2069. The ni cut is being paid for with fiscal drag
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  2070. economy is knackered it doesn't take much to see it Most visible sign our incompetent leaders don't know how to fix it is the tax basis keeps going up it was 32% in 2019 it will be 38% by 2027 when fiscal drag is finally ended
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  2071. Cooper says we're not, Starmer is talking about reclassifying smuggler gangs along organised crime lines seizing their assets and the quota os only 30,000 we had over 80,000 apply last year and its going up this year
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  2072. The person who transfered his companies to the EU after he got you to vote for Brexit? we have 40,000 people here who should have been deported already and aren't because she does nothing. All the talk of ECHR and UNCR is a distraction. She was speaking at a right wing Libertarian think tank The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research mainly funded by big oil such as ExxonMobil These people dont give a sh1t about working and middle class there sole purpose of existing is to screw as much money out the system for the billionaire and corporate class there no different to the IEA who where pulling Truss's strings They use imigration so they can get voted in to screw the working and middle class for the benefits of the billionaire and corporate class They don't care about migration only the political opertunity to use it to gain power
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  2073. No Nige your the one that hates GB and want's to take us back to the 1930's you Mosley wannabe
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  2074. Someone who's sane is part of the problem get a reality check the majority of the country is sick to the teeth of stupid evil
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  2075. ​@world684 There are no advantages to erecting trade barriers to your nearest market of 440 million The Brexit promise was Cakeism still is you can have all the advantages of membership without paying any cost, its untrue then and is untrue now because of that the economy has lost around 1 trillion in gdp since 2016 and we have escalating imigration to patch the holes.
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  2076. ​ @Please_allow_me last period of Labour government saw +20% Average wage growth since 2010 Average wage growth has declined by -7%
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  2077.  @paulhurt71  Vote Reform get Tory + Argentina on the Thames
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  2078. Which of the tax rises will affect you? The Tories ran a budget deficit for 14 years straight
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  2079. not the fossil lobby that's for sure According to Oxford University researchers, ending fossil fuel use by 2050 will save the world at least $12 trillion (€11.3 trillion). The study disproves the fallacy that going green is economically difficult, says Professor Doyne Farmer, who led the study
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  2080.  @wobblywally-0  Probably doesn't even know Thatcher knighted him and Edwina Curry gave him unfettered access to hospitals
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  2081.  @TheoriginalANGEK439  why? They spout the same failed Libertarian supply side globalist shit economic policies that Sunak loves so much
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  2082. no he won't it the usual right wing media bullsh1t he's proposing cooperating with the people who run the border on the other side reclassifying people smugglers in the same light as organised crime and seizing their assets plus getting rid of the backlog that's costing us 8 billion which sounds infinitely better than do nothing Tories
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  2083. the only solution to this is processing the claims anyone claiming otherwise is lying the only way to stop the boats is to set up safe and legal routes for asylum applications which pulls the rug from under the traffickers business model anyone claiming otherwise is also lying
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  2084. Someone who was a conspiracy nut was riding up a crowd to try start a riot and was jailed for doing so Personally I would have liked to have seen him get mental health treatment but that's not we do in our overloaded justice system
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  2085. Of course he will end the problem what sort of fkwit wants to pour 6-8 billion on a propaganda stunt to make the racists foam at the mouth That's 6-8 billion that can be invested in our crumbling infrastructure
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  2086. Reform are just a worse version of the Tories Everything the Cons tried out a Reform/ ukip policy it was a disaster
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  2087. It's been stagnant for a decade and a half if you look at the macroeconomic trends Sunak and Hunt are just doubling down on economic policies that have lead us here
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  2088. Thatcher gave Jimmy a Knighthood and Currie gave him open access to Broadmoor the Head of the CPS is BANNED from reviewing cases except those tagged NATIONAL SECURITY. The reason is you don't give that political appointee the power to prosecute s so he can't engage in political prosecutions thus you have separation of powers between the Judiciary and Parliament
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  2089. Thatcher gave Jimmy a Knighthood and Currie gave him open access to Broadmoor the Head of the CPS is BANNED from reviewing cases except those tagged NATIONAL SECURITY. The reason is you don't give that political appointee the power to prosecute s so he can't engage in political prosecutions thus you have separation of powers between the Judiciary and Parliament
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  2090.  @user-ug8wx5er1w  The CPS engages in 11000 prosecutions annually calculate the amount of time it would take for 1 person to review all 11,000 cases and write your answer on the back of a neo nazi right wing conspiracy theory pamphlet?
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  2091.  @user-ug8wx5er1w  The so called extra scrutiny results in form filling and arse covering at the bottom of the pile in some cases just making things worse by reducing the time professional people in the system actually do their job. One man's refugee is another mans opportunity to exploit their misery by demagoguing their plight by claiming that making their already miserable lives even worse will alleviate the problem when in reality it will make things worse and will swallow large sums of money. Your being conned if you think the refugee problems can be fixed the west is involved in too many conflicts due to its insatiable thirst for fossil and minerals and the refugees are the price of that thirst and the corruption it brings.
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  2092.  @user-ug8wx5er1w  All woke means is don't be a misogynistic racist homophobic A hole. Its been taken over by the right to mean that black is the new white and up is the new down. Refugees will happen no matter what, you can do something about it like process them and deport the economic migrants or play gesture politics like Patel and Co . The conservatives and other right wing parties will simultaneously demonise and decry refugees then propose unworkable solutions to garner your vote the central premise being to make you more afraid of refugees and not look at the shit state of their economic policies or how crap they are making your life with them If you accept as I have that refugees are an unsolvable problem and are just a political distraction from the real issues in life such as why are my heating bills going up and why am I paying more tax then proposing lunatic ideas like an island detention camp making them all criminals makes sense as just the latest raging red meat boner thrown to the plebs to keep them distracted.
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  2093. Because all Reform have to offer is a fantasy migration policy with 100 + billion in unfunded tax cuts + fracking something that's as popular as drinking baby sick with the majority of voters
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  2094. His policies are nothing like Labour or Liberal deregulate water oversight so water companies can pour raw sewage into rivers and sea criminalize protests criminalize asylum seekers remove regulations governing award of contracts to enable money to be funnelled to donors Tax cut for bankers Screw the poor with a tax hike and push the cost of fuel deregulation on the consumer What do you expect when you vote for a Con
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  2095.  @theurg4504  You got what you voted for and your now pissed why? Boris is everything you could want in a tory duplicitous, corrupt and a liar. Its not like he's changed at all across his political career
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  2096.  @theurg4504  During the Blair / Brown period average wages rose by 25% the average wage increase since Cameron / May / Johnson is -4% Average disposable income under the Tories has fallen from 22% to 18% not counting 2022 when economists anticipate another fall.
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  2097.  @theurg4504  Bankrupted the country pfff The current government have the highest debt level since the 60's (and that was falling consistently during post war reconstruction) Were going to have the highest taxation levels since WW2 The Con government is corrupt as fk dolling out billions during the covid crisis to their mates on VIP lane contracts A raft of broken promises as long as your arm The economy is stagnant with negative growth over the last 12 years due to get worse a feat not accomplished since the Napoleonic war.
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  2098. You reduce the need for migration by investment in your domestic workforce, the notion that it went up dramatically under Blair is a myth you can check the stats at the HOC. If you cut investment and prioritise tax cuts you need to fetch the skills in from elsewhere
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  2099. @S-North  The economy needs some migration but what we have now is the result of 14 years of under investment in our domestic population, I'd rather home educated kids get the higher paid jobs and supplement the workforce at the bottom with a gradual taper of net migration. Our birth rate is low and we have an aging population what the net figure is can be debated but +1.25 million is too high
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  2100. its only 62,000 per annum of a population of 70 million why all the fuss and angst Oh I know the government need to distract you from the real problems in your life like the cost of living 13 years of stagflation and your reduced spending power. Oh and 500,000 emigrate from the UK every year permanently Jeez you people are mugs
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  2101. ​@mcjeebus he's a decent record to run on from being head of DPP
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  2102. The UK has the lowest tax Base in Europe how it collects those taxes and who is paying is another matter entirely. And Capitalism doesn't grow the economy people do. In the States the reason the economy is starting to Boom is the 2 Trillion investment in infrastructure Biden has made over 10 Years the biggest state injection since the Great Depression and a welcome return to Keynesian economics. Both US and the UK Cut corporate tax and it went straight to share BuyBacks and did squat for both economies bar load 3.5 trillion onto the US and 140 billion onto the UK and did squat to economic growth. Everyone I know is sick of right wing Trickle down and this Socialism for the Rich Capitalism for the poor Malarky  @DS9TREK 
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  2103.  @flabbybum9562  our productivity has plummeted as well, your sort of right about loosing experience having a role but the biggest factor is outsourcing and agency/supply workers. If as a business or in public services don't have clear goals but end up getting run off a spreadsheet by someone who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing then we end up here, it's trying to run an economy as a hedge fund, asset stripping, outsourcing and not looking at true value. I'll give you an example before retirement I worked in IT I could get test servers setup in minutes, the support was outsourced to supposedly save money so I had to raise a ticket wait a couple of days for a response then have a long conversation with the support person instructing them in detail how to set the environment up. So 5 to 10 minutes went into 6 to 7 hours of lost time and my time cost the company an arm and a leg
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  2104. Current situation is the result of Thatcherism If your so dyed in the wool Tory you should be be happy. Reform are all mouth not 1 workable policy
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  2105. Only the most successful president of the modern era 48 bills many bipartisan passed in 2 years Reduced the debt from 132% gdp to 121% after the disastrous Trump term Reshored 400,000 jobs in 2022 with his policies The media have a narrative its generally a Conservative one try looking for a change instead of lapping it up i
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  2106. He wasn't running a Friday night rave
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  2107. The Tories haven't balanced the books in 14 years in power adding 1.6 trillion to the debt Just to give you an idea of how bad things are here are some numbers 72 billion spent last year on energy subsidies because we're tied to GAS 120 billion on interest payments The Truss event cost pensions 425 billion Councils spent 20 billion on housing support (2 million council houses not replaced) Water companies are on the verge of bankruptcy yet are still paying dividends Etc
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  2108. Net zero would cut your energy bills by around 2/3 rds and detach our economy from world commodity shock 2020 UK energy customers spent 30 billion 2023 UK energy customers spent 170 billion Why GAS price volatility There's also a war brewing in the middle east so Oil prices will go south again Renewable energy has been the cheapest on the Grid since 2019 the Tories don't want to pony up the money to expand and update the GRID they would rather customers keep having to pay extortionate bills
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  2109. its only 62,000 per annum of a population of 70 million why all the fuss and angst Oh I know the government need to distract you from the real problems in your life like the cost of living 13 years of stagflation and your reduced spending power. Oh and 500,000 emigrate from the UK every year permanently
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  2110. They would work given the chance this is all manufactured theatre for the masses. Its just Stupid Evil You must be a complete mug to believe anything the current government says they defunded the home office because Austerity cuts and process around 13% of the Total applications last year  @jenniferparry8709 
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  2111. It has a failing economy and debt to GDP level of 263% which is where we are going with a right wing government UK debt to GDP 2010 62% 2016 82% 2019 92% 2023 100% 2027 107% (projected)
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  2112. They've had a pay freeze for 3 years while the guys at the top got 6% in September What happened to Johnson's high wage economy? Oh dear we've pissed all the money away on a privatised failed test and trace system and vip ppe contracts for our donors now the rest of you can eat cake?
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  2113. Give it a rest we've sent a man to the moon invented the IPhone a renewable Grid is a piece of cake The reason its not happened is the Fossil Lobby spend on energy was 30 billion in 2020 its now 170 billion in 2023 they are literally making 140 billion in excess profits out of the UK economy
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  2114. looking at polling it's about right Nige isn't very popular outside his fan-base of 20%
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  2115. Tax cuts don't generate enough growth to warrant the tax cut. Example Tax cut of 40,000 for millionaire pensioners that money goes straight out of the working economy into assets. Doesn't attract tax or any GDP growth. Corporate tax cuts just got spent on share buy backs near zero value to the economy. So were stuck till we have a government that will invest in social and physical infrastructure instead of draining money from the system @thejdemon 
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  2116. Net Zero reduces Energy costs by switching away from GAS Energy costs 2020 to UK consumers 30 Billion Energy costs 2023 to UK consumers 170 Billion I make that 140 Billion reasons to go renewable don't you?
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  2117. Quote The OBR concludes: the debt impact of future volatility in gas prices is at 13% of the UK gross domestic product (GDP) to 2050. This dwarfs the debt impact of 6% of GDP for investing in net zero. Second, it investigates the potential of new, growing energy solutions to cushion price volatility Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP @kennethslade8468 
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  2118.  @jowallis8  if you trade with the EU you have to comply with EU standards and rules the fact that its 20 miles away means trade gravity will always make it our main import/export market So Johnson's Brexit is just Kabuki theatre for the dumb proles
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  2119. ​@ChristineRead-ck1uq immigration hardly changed till 2008 go look it up there are charts at the House of Commons, post banking crash it started to rise before it began ballooning post 2010. If you want lower migration you invest in your domestic workforce which is what Labour did with thier big education push creating a well paid middle class workforce
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  2120. I'm not really into it not sure why they did it the only reason I can think of is to Troll the likes of the Con propaganda media like here The reason the Tories are a complete failure at justice law and order by the way is they DeFunded the Police Courts and Councils Its Austerity coming back to bite them in the bum
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  2121. ​@hevchip741 how Dumb do you have to be to give away your human rights the last Bastion against government overreach to do Stupid Evil
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  2122. No it isn't its just realising that we all have skin in the game if we pay our taxes Currently if your working in the UK from the commonwealth you can vote in the general dunno what the rules are for local elections but long standing eu citizens can
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  2123. pack it in with the transphobia and don't be ignorant
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  2124. If you fall for the Trans sideshow look over there distraction you deserve everything this government throws at you
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  2125.  @free9200  it's odd that in a country of 66 million a few people on the edge of the LBGTQ community are suddenly your no 1 prioriiy. I remember in the. 90's the right wing getting into a real lather over gay marriage another nothing burger
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  2126. Renewable energy is cheaper than fossil
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  2127.  @davidfoster1055  I have one it's good for top up heating my house is now A+ insulated with underfloor heating on the ground floor. I't's not really cost effective to push the heating right up for a couple of hours while we watch TV and a fire is nice.
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  2128.  @MinkieWinkle  Renewables have been the cheapest on the grid since 2020 before the energy crisis. In 2023 Sunak spent 72 billion on energy support because we are tied to GAS. The reason renewables are now so cheap is the cost of domestic battery storage has fallen dramatically enabling time shifting from an always on resource. Not only that they are zero VAT rated. It is in the best interest of the Customer, the Supplier, the Generators, The Grid and the government to both insulate homes and time shit electricity usage.
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  2129. @MinkieWinkle  batteries aren't expensive for what they do. A mass storage grid node will repay it's capital cost within a year. Your really out of date maybe 5 years ago you might have had a point but capital costs for renewables keeps coming down while other energy sources keep rising. As for nuclear forget it Hinckley C is still not commissioned is further delayed and build costs are now up to 40+ billion It's estimated that it would only cost 30 billion to remove standby gas with battery storage saving 30 billion a year
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  2130.  @MinkieWinkle  I agree there is still too much red tape but even without it Hinkley would cost a small fortune to build. These are quotes from last year since then battery prices have fallen especially by Tesla's competitors. The second quote shows why battery storage saves so much money compared to standby gas The Astonishing Economics of the Tesla Megapack By adding about 300 MW of storage, ERCOT will generate approximately $1 billion in savings in 2025. This is from a one time purchase of Megapacks for $750 million. These savings will also happen each additional year after 2025 - they are recurring! National Grid paid some of the highest prices this winter for gas-generated power on Tuesday night as it scrambled to keep the lights on during one of the coldest weeks of the year. Data from the electricity system’s administrator, Elexon, showed the Coryton power station in Essex had bids accepted to produce power at £1,950 per megawatt hour (MWh) on Tuesday evening. The sums are well above average prices of between £200 and £400 per megawatt hour, although they remain below those paid on 12 December, when National Grid paid £27m in a single day to get power stations to crank up supply. In December, Rye House power station in Hertfordshire received a record £6,000 a MWh.
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  2131. no he wasn't your just trying to justify why Farage is a lying Toad the guy is so full of BS and mugs like you lap it up
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  2132. So your switching your vote from the party who only support the wealthy to a party that are pushing an economic agenda for the billionaires and corporations especially fossil fuel? That makes no sense but each to their own
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  2133. You need the migration if you run Supply Side Trickle Down Economics aka Thatcherism If you want to cut immigration you shouldn't vote for right wing parties there economic low tax low regulation model uses migrant labour to feed it - example Cameron's GIG economy fuelling immigration with zero hour low paid work, Osborne then spent the extra tax on lower corporation tax and they spent it on share buy backs To cut the need for migrant labour you need to change the economic model and invest in the UK and its workforce such as modern transport links free University
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  2134. The poll is an outlier the polling average have Labour +18 and once the fuel crisis ramps up this winter because of do nothing 7 bins InaActionMan then that lead will widen Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP.
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  2135. They kicked out the experienced ones and filled the place with the dregs of ukip what do you expect
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  2136. Sending NLAW's has got to be the best marketing uk arms industry has done
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  2137. There were vetrans in the peace march, let's be clear everyone condems the violence on both sides
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  2138. ​@wyattfamily8997 given all historical evidence a Labour government will be infinatly better. Wages grow more under Labour, on average they borrow 1/2 what the Tories do and pay back double Comparing the current Tories to the last labour government you even pay less tax
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  2139.  @countfosco8535  100+ billion in unfunded tax cuts, free reign for fossil companies to turn the countryside into an industrial site, deregulation removing workers rights and abolishing pollution regulations
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  2140. You'll get lower fuel prices with renewable the high cost on electric is down to using gas to generate electric especially the short term demand Offshore wind £40 per kilowatt hour contract price Nuclear £92 OffGem spot price £200+ The fossil industry will pump out all sorts of bollox to keep its cash cow delivering trillions in record profits Quote A multimillionaire Brexit donor funding anti-‘net zero’ campaigns is the director of a company with tens of millions of pounds invested in oil and gas. The revelation comes as chancellor Rishi Sunak is expected to bow to pressure from the motor industry and cut fuel duty in his spring Budget statement on Wednesday. Investment manager Jeremy Hosking has given millions to political parties including the Conservatives and Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party/Reform UK, as well as Vote Leave. Recently, he has been bankrolling Laurence Fox’s Reclaim Party, which has campaigned against ‘net zero’, and has been linked to a climate denial group.
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  2141. Your heating bill has trebled because of government inaction on energy divestment from GAS
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  2142. ​@redbeard3923 it's a bit lame 65% of the country don't support right wing parties Doesn't make them left wing just means they can see past the populist right wing Guff
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  2143. Tice is lying about international treaties
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  2144. whatever he's the most successful US president in modern history the Infrastructure, CHIPS act and IRA are rebuilding America debt to GDP is down from its Trump high of 132% GDP to 121% the longest and strongest job growth in US history quote from FT Since Biden took office, US manufacturing employment has grown by slightly less than 800,000 positions, contributing to the more than 13 million jobs overall
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  2145. What happens when Sien Fein come first and the Alliance party come second? What are the old sectarian out of touch crusties going to do then?
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  2146.  @ryanr5541  thanks for the info
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  2147. Its easier than that trickle down tax cuts dont work and don't boost growth Of the huge sums in corporate tax cuts in the US & UK pre pandemic they nearly all went on share buy backs boosting the Dow and CEO pay ​@lordnoodle2146
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  2148. And GBNews is propped up with it, it would have gone under within weeks without outside funding propping it up
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  2149. Since when has sending people to a concentration camp in East Africa been Christian?
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  2150.  @jonathanj.7344  If you want lower migration you invest in your domestic population, Osborne cut bursaries and funding for Nurses and doctors your seeing record levels of 3rd world recruitment. The result of small state low tax Conservative policy
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  2151.  @gingerbobful  No they won't they will just process them faster so it doesn't waste gobs of cash trying to be an arsehole on Asylum This mess was entirely predictable post Brexit no we'll probably have to accept double the number of Refugees than we used to pre Brexit
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  2152.  @Bungle-UK  Its a job she doesn't have to be a Labour supporter to do it. If you'd seen the clusterfk government break everything over the last decade maybe you'd like to take a pay rise and an opportunity to fix broken Britain
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  2153.  @Bungle-UK  last survey I saw had Tory support at 8% with young people which dunks your family trait theory down tthe nearest toilet
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  2154. An out of touch millionaire with Lettuce Liz economic policies your having a laugh
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  2155. It's elite bollox to scare the masses because they don't want to loose their tax breaks If Labour are to do anything then they will have to rip out ll the trickle down cr*p
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  2156. ​@oldshiny3012 the state of the economy just keeps deteriorating, Sunak & Co keep spending money they don't have on trickle down cr@p Ex 4 billion on millionaire pensioner tax break 8 billion bankers levy reduction +6 billion further fossil subsidises
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  2157.  @pip1723  hundreds - +23 tax increases alone under Sunak
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  2158. Migration is the result of economic policy If you want to reduce it then you need to invest in UKPLC with free higher education, retraining programs, improved NHS, more housing, public transport NOT TAX CUTS
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  2159. Delusional Tory economics d8fferent wrapper
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  2160. The tax will be paid by big landowners trying to dodge iht 3 mill per couple puts all but the really large farms outside of tax
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  2161.  @jasonjervis1077  Only 5% of farms are liable for this if you take the full 3 million. Pressure on farm prices bought by the rich to avoid IHT should see a cooling of farm prices. Dyson owns 36,000 acres
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  2162. Right wing economics got us here and you want more extreme Right wing economics How does that work exactly? If you don't invest in training up Nurses you need to import them, if your not in the EU they fetch their dependants with them it's not rocket science
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  2163. Wasn't it the Tories that spent 14 years defending and outsourcing the Justices System?
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  2164. We've had 14 years of Thatcherism + Austerity how hard right do you want it?
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  2165. @chickenminute8195  pff since Osborne its been hard right Thatcherite small state A million miles from Blair
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  2166. Labour would process the backlog saving 6 billion because they want to spend it on real stuff not showboating for the racists
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  2167.  @mertonsardeen2242  The Conservatives or whoever gets in power will have to process the Asylum claims eventually there is no other option. We are signatories to the UN convention on Refugees and you need to get some facts and stop parroting rubish you get from the media. Were paying 8 billion for nothing more than political theatre so people like you can whine on about foreigners because its always easy to blame the other for your problems.
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  2168. when your borrowing is 100% of GDP and you want to borrow 40 billion and simply give it to the rich with no discernible benefit what do you expect No fk off and by the way we don't want some of this debt we already have because your as mad as a box of frogs was there response
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  2169. Lettuce Liz economics with fantasy immigration policy we know how that ends don't we children
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  2170. Everyone it affects your Tax and the level of Services the Government can provide. 1% of GDP = 8 Billion in Tax The reason Taxes have gone up to an all time record is the -5.5% GDP hit because of BREXIT which = 44 Billion loss to the Treasury which Sunak is clawing back by cuts and increased taxes. @OceanGateEngineer4Hire 
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  2171.  @keithmarshall8796  The schools near me have high numbers of foreign pupils there a business and one I have no wish to susbsidise to the tune of £6000 per pupil
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  2172. We have 50 years of economic data showing that trickle down is a fairy story invented by rich people
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  2173. Reform are just rebadged Neoliberal economics serving the billionaire class
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  2174. Populism in like what Johnson promised all smoke and mirrors. Makes you feel good for a bit then you get angry coz nothing changes @BRMCaptChaos 
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  2175. We give them huge tax breaks then they offshore most of it and lock up large portions of it in property and assets what benifit to the economy is that? Give a poor person £100 and they spend every penny in the econmy we want bottom up and are sick to death of the trickle down golden shower
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  2176. You've got ultra Right wing Tory hell stop complaining there nothing to do with liberal Corruption - check Contracts to donors - check remove water regulations so the water companies can dump sewage everywhere - check shrinking economy - check underfunded NHS - check Broken election promises - check
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  2177. ​ @ChrisAndCats his asylum claim failed they could have deported him without giving him 3 grand
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  2178. ​ @stevebird7265 Another scare story from a Tory shill The Billionaires channel shows its true colours
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  2179. @Truth-And-Freedom  the occurance of extreme weather events is increased and you can get sudden wild swings in temperatures
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  2180. My brother lives in Norway just north of Oslo its been up to -28 The problem is our infrastructure isn't designed for ultra cold or over hot or monsoon conditions even in Norway this is strange weather but at least they have appropriate levels of insulation
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  2181. They've always been out of touch with 95% of the population they only serve the elite the clue is in the name CON servative
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  2182. Why would anyone take them seriously? Thier policies would crash the economy faster than you could say Liz Truss
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  2183. 8 years on brex1t is dead in the water We spent 50 years integrating our supply chains and transport and we see the chaos and fallout all over the economy
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  2184.  @dalegribble9101  You have no idea how Thatcher's economics works it would take over a decade to change from a low tax high migration to high tax low migration model
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  2185. for what publishing his tax returns every year
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  2186. If you privatize it costs to the public will double and the State will end up paying more because it has to cover Pensioners. You'll basically strip assets from the government for No benefit and end up not owning the Asset so have higher costs EX Water companies @mogznwaz 
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  2187. ​ @swingro2011 he doesn't understand the anti net zero mob are paid shills for the fossil industry or that we've given 500 billion over the years in fossil subsidies over the 80 billion to advance renewable deployment
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  2188. reform are just pushing billionaire friendly policies why are you a billionaire? they don't give a shyte about your average guy
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  2189. The bulk of blue wall voters don't want anything to do with Reform given they voted remain and think Farage is a lying pile of cr*p
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  2190. 100+ billion in unfunded tax cuts in thier manifesto + fracking Been there watched a lettuce decompose
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  2191. Tories have asset stripped Council housing for decades and is one of the main reasons 1/3 of councils are on the verge of bankruptcy You can't keep plundering public assets indefinitely the sh1t is really hitting the fan now
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  2192. Opposition hardly NatCon has a clue in the word CON, It was sponsored by a fossil industry think tank
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  2193. @robertelliott2216  why deliberately misspell something if you have a point make it without being childish
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  2194. The type that don't believe in magic unicorn solutions and who pay attention to experts and aren't mired in cult like behaviour because foreigners and flags.
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  2195. the tin foil hats are out today
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  2196.  @alexrobertbrian  What that I actually read policy documents like the 15 minute city thing. Finally someone doing something to improve the lives of people in Cities by improving public transport enabling more local services and shopping options. My Mother in law is now unable to drive I have to take here everywhere from medical appointments to shopping and nut balls like you bleat on about measures to improve people's lives that don't own cars because somehow a CAR is more important than a person Get a sense of prospective
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  2197. Its his party he took over candidate selection so when elected they can pass stuff instead of spending 5 years infighting like the Tories have
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  2198. quote Labour sets out plan to “rewire Britain” and build the clean energy grid the country needs, unlocking £200bn of private investment. where currently paying +140 Billion in excess profits to energy companies and you reckon it won't make any difference ? Stockholm Syndrome or what @Bobisalive 
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  2199. why ? are you keen on more trickle down haven't the Tories screwed you over enough?
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  2200. When the problem is Conservative Ideology why would Labour not improve things by investing in UK plc instead of trickle down tax cuts
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  2201. When Osborne cut bursaries for nurses why are people surprised that were importing thousands? There are no end of Cause and Effects going on to the current problems. @sgb6476 
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  2202. What's common senses? Sitting on 40,000 people and not deporting them because you haven't processed them She was speaking at a right wing Libertarian think tank The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research mainly funded by big oil such as ExxonMobil These people dont give a sh1t about working and middle class there sole purpose of existing is to screw as much money out the system for the billionaire and corporate class there no different to the IEA who where pulling Truss's strings Jeez you people are mugs listening to elites like this yank your chain
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  2203. ​ @MasterJTLS after Blair? The guy that delivered +25% average wage rises, well funded schools and hospitals? Your sitting through the biggest contraction in personal wealth in history and your bad mouthing the most successful PM in post ww2 history are you sane?
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  2204. You do know why taxes have to go up don't you? You can't pay for those mythical trickle down tax breaks with vapour, how will the millionaire class survive if they don't get their tax breaks. Socialism for the rich capitalism for the poor
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  2205. Liz Truss was completely wrong we have 50 years of data since Reagan & Thatcher which shows Tax cuts DON'T create growth The average growth rate with Osborn's corporate tax cut was 0.5% GDP increasing tax receipts by around 40 billion till it went up this year at a cost of 200 billion in lost tax receipts. All the data we have points to companies using the bulk of tax savings on share buybacks in turn increasing executive pay If you process the Asylum claims you will deport 40,000 staying here illegally and save 6 Billion in costs as well as boosting treasury receipts by 2 billion due to the enhanced economic activity of the granted applications
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  2206. ​ @DilbertWhitehead it's a better idea than the hotchpotch of building we currently have and would avoid current issues like creating ringroads through built up areas
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  2207.  @DilbertWhitehead  There's plenty of space on it the issue is the South East and London and lack of investment in transport, housing and infrastructure nimby, boomer by any chance?
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  2208.  @DilbertWhitehead  we have a million over 50 renting coming up to pension age, the government spends 20 billion on housing support, multiple generations are stuck renting with no possibility of having a secure home to start a family and a deliberate government policy to restrict supply and not invest in transport has sent house prices soaring by 66% in the last 14 years while wages stagnated. People's lives are being destroyed and your worrying about a view get a reality check
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  2209.  @DilbertWhitehead  You were told leaving the EU would increase illegal migration you claimed project Fear. You were told loosing FOM would vastly increase legal migration and again claimed project fear. If you want to lower legal and illegal migration how about campaigning to rejoin the EU and take some responsibility for the sh1tsh0w you've put the country in?
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  2210.  @DilbertWhitehead  from 2018 Historic examples include Britain’s decision to end the unrestricted entry of Commonwealth subjects in the 1960s, Germany’s experience with admitting temporary “guest workers” from the 1960s, and the US ending its labour program for Mexican workers in 1965. Drawing lessons from those experiences, the SMF predicted that ending EU freedom of movement and restricting EU nationals’ right to enter and stay in Britain for work will have precisely the opposite effect on immigration patterns to the one many Brexit supporters say they want.
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  2211. No Thatcher era policies were specifically designed to offshore the industry at its cheapest price undercutting domestic businesses. By creating high unemployment you hammer down inflation rather than dealing with it
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  2212.  @scendalbymodelrailway  I think you will find that your wrong I was there they needed investment not having the rules changed to deliberately sink them.
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  2213.  @scendalbymodelrailway  so because there was behaviour by the unions that you disagree with the only solution was to deliberately make them unemployed and trash the business they worked in?
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  2214.  @scendalbymodelrailway  Fix the system then what Thatcher did to most of the North was deliberate and way beyond just fixing Unions
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  2215. REFORM are just another right wing guff machine selling unworkable populist solutions to a gullible audience the solution is simple you process them not sit on your arse and shout about how cruel your going to be If you process all the asylum claims you get to deport 40,000 people and save 6 BILLION Those that have a right to asylum when working in the economy will generate another 2 billion in tax
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  2216. Renewables are 2.5x cheaper on forward contract than Nuclear the argument against net zero went over the event horizon in 2019 when they achieved parity with gas priced electric. The uk is paying out tens of billions in tax subsidies to the fossil industry And we don't own any of our fossil resources they go onto a Cartel controlled world market
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  2217. what's with ths stupid as fk transphobia He's given a definition loads of times if you don't like the legal definition then tough the guys a lawyer after all
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  2218. That's what net zero does from new insulation standards to flattening and fattening the demand curve
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  2219. yea he pointed out the law why are you so keen on giving up the right to protest?
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  2220. Had as far as I'm aware Went and had surgery 2021 doesn't seem to have altered his kleptocratic psycho side still stealing still crazy Rumors he had parkinsons as well he's absolutely paranoid about covid
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  2221. what truth bomb? you would need to be insane to let that kleptocrat control the majority of the world's wheat production as well as all the mineral wealth + an additional 40 million people to conscript
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  2222. @minicheddarsarebest We have some near us there not a problem at all. I drive past Drax regularly it's a complete eyesore on the landscape
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  2223.  @goffthomas2554  you seen the size of the site it's massive there is no space saving and it's an effin eyesore
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  2224.  @Tydurden2025  there herding in the sheep just in case they vote for another party Sell them scare stories shout Rwanda at the top of your voice and cross your fingers the plebs vote for more Trickle down economics which screw them over
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  2225. Trump V the Swamp? He is the Swamp, mired in it up to his neck So what did he do Incited a riot on Jan 6th with his endless lies which got people killed and ruined hundreds of people's lives Incited violence against poll workers across the country who were trying to count votes by endlessly claiming he'd won when he had not Multiple faked elector schemes Attempts to block the certification of Biden with other numerous schemes
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  2226. Leaving the single market is an utter failure instead of the sunny uplands businesses are being crippled with thousands of pages of red tape and have to follow hundreds more rules. The current course of action will see thousands of small businesses especially in the North go bankrupt
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  2227.  @farmerned6  there was a vote to leave the EU not the single market or free movement area the best anyone has managed was 42% on the back of a boat load of lies. There selling you snake oil when they talk about British identity 70% of people born I the UK over the last half century have a parent or grandparent who wasn't born here. Live in your fantasy world the rest of us will pick up the pieces of your stupidity in listening to complete idiots like Farage and Johnson
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  2228. Wind is the cheapest on the grid by a huge margin why wouldn't you expand that 1st onshore has a lead time of 1/2 years nuclear is around 7 as is fossil exploration
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  2229. ​ @NPC--666 woke = don't be a racist sexist homophobic arseh0le Used by the right wing to target minority groups such as the trans community who's teenage population have record suicide levels and spread HATE
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  2230. he knows zero about our energy market Bills are high because were tied to Natural Gas so why is he doubling down on stup1d?
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  2231. @jamesleeson6970  Anyone can answer a question if they just make stuff up, people have pointed out to him he is wrong on multiple occasions but apparently facts don't matter
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  2232. @jamesleeson6970  he claims you can order the navy to dump refugees in France, Boris tried it they told him to get stuffed as it was an illeagal order under maritime law. Leaving the echr has no bearing on being able to dump on asylum seekers Our energy is expensive because we're tied to Gas and get grid standby load from on demand gas power stations - he wants to ban battery mass storage which will save a small fortune. Etc As I said anyone can answer questions if they make stuff up then get people to believe the bs thier spouting
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  2233. The full effect of trade barriers with the EU are starting to bite, we get most of our food from them what did you expect with lorry loads of paperwork vets certificates 72 hour queues at the ports it will get way worse we've barley implemented 50% of Brexit.
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  2234. Things are bad enough without yet more Conservative grifters selling snake oil
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  2235. It will cost 40 billion a year over 10 years Volatility in gas prices is costing UK consumers + 140 billion in excess energy costs Going net zero is a no brained on economic grounds alone Sunak is just pushing costs onto the consumer so the energy companies keep making huge excess profits
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  2236.  @danielgoring1328  if you got rid of the ECHR you couldn't challenge any UK law that you thought was dodgy like the majority of the current policing bill, it was put in place post war to stop countries backsliding into National populist Authoritarianism. The thing is the Rwanda thing was never going to fly its a show pony question is why do they really want to get rid of the ECHR? we know Johnson is the Billionaires bitch Dorrie came out and confirmed it after the open letter in the Sun question is why do they want rid of it?
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  2237. There extreme right economically
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  2238.  @spacemonkey200  you lot are deluded
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  2239.  @arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101  how are you going to do that given it's driven by thatcherite economic policy?
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  2240.  @stequality  no they won't the bulk of Labour's vote is middle class younger educated voters this points based system completely screws over the middle class depressing their salaries.
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  2241.  @LILLYB8328  got nothing to do with net zero targets the Nordic countries with high levels of renewables are isolated from supply side energy commodity inflation Denmark's has gone down to 2.9% The US inflation is going down due to a number of factors but your also switching to renewables for electric
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  2242.  @LILLYB8328  Texas is the leader in wind turbine deployment renewables reached cost parity with gas generation back in 2019. With recent rises there is no economic argument to not deploy renewable energy it's just cheaper by quite a margin. The only thing going for gas is it's ease of use and cost effectiveness for heating. Your rehashing arguments from 5/6 years ago over the last decade renewable costs have dropped by 95%
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  2243.  @LILLYB8328  China deployed more renewable capacity last year than the rest of the world put together Danemark runs 60% 40% wind and is going further Norway is 93% renewable Danemark inflation is 2.9% Your years if not a decade behind the curve
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  2244.  @LILLYB8328  Coal costs approximately x3 times as much to produce 1 kilowatt of electric as for instance wind. And what's China got to do with the UK energy market I'm all for renewables based on Cost reshoring jobs and controlling our own energy supply not have it at the whims of some Foreign corporate Cartel
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  2245. Debt has been rising every year since 2010 at some point tax has to = spend
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  2246.  @shirleywilcox9371  why would they vote for a Fascist if they decided not to vote at all? Le Pen dressed herself as a lot more moderate and populist this time but there's the same old batshit crazy far right policies under the hood
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  2247. If you only have a hammer everything looks like a nail Interest rates wont cure UK inflation because its not demand driven its supply on inelastic world commodities If you want to bring down inflation tax the 170 billion in windfall profits @75% and push it back to consumers and businesses that don't spend 9k a year on personal heated swimming pools also stop giving handouts to the likes of millionaire pensioners bankers and the fossil industry
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  2248. That's not really a good sign Your 1st vote was to make yourself poorer and strip away your economic rights to work live and retire across Europe Marvellous no wonder the country is going to the dogs
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  2249. Corbyn isn't even in Labour he's had the whip withdrawn
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  2250. That's all conspiracy junk Trump got his ass creamed because he treat covid as a messaging problem and tried to deny reality. Aside from that DT is a moron he released 5k Afghan fighters and their leader and got nothing in return but a soundbite on Fox
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  2251. Woke means to be socially aware especially in term of race and gender (dictionary definition) Translated for the right-wing in language they can understand it means Don't be a racist xenophobic sexist pig
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  2252. we have an energy crisis which needs investment in and there promising to lower taxes for the wealthy how does that work? If you pump 28 billion into renewable energy it has an economic multiplier of a minimum 1.6 which means for every £1 you put in it creates enough GDP to return £1.6 in additional taxation. As a pensioner this will help me enormously because it will lower energy costs and I'm home most of the day far more than any tax cut. Getting energy costs down to 2020 levels would be the equivalent to me of my tax going from 20% to 10%
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  2253. How detached from reality do you have to be to believe that turning the UK into the North Korea of Europe is somehow a good thing? The Brexiteers promised Singapore on Thames they delivered Argentina on the Channel
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  2254. You can't grow the economy while at the same time contracting it with Brexit There's a reason Hunt is in power its because the city knows Brexit for what it is a complete economic car crash that no one will lend money too. This stuff is of an economic fantasist talking to the cult faithful just believe and your dreams will come true
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  2255. that's because there's a lot of people who believe in utter rubbish promoted by populists on the right Global Britain always needed unfettered supply side cheap migration to work you can't have limited migration & what is Supply Side Trickle down economics we can see the results with taxes going up trying to prop up the system
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  2256. There voting labour because there not going to be running Thatcherite economic policy which is tanking the economy.
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  2257. All government spending is subject to an economic multiplier here's a recent example worked out that a 10% pay rise for NHS staff had an economic multiplier of 0.81 for every £1 spent the Treasury recovered 81p. The 1st hit is with the £1 getting hit with both income NI and student tax the remaining money is spent in the wider economy generating more GDP hence tax there is also every likelihood of reduced staff churn which generates savings and less money spent on Agency staff. This excludes benefits from having a fitter healthier workforce. Onto Truss's tax cuts in general these would have generated for every £1 cut between 20-30p in additional income through GDP growth because the economic multiplier is around 0.2-0.3 so its no wonder the markets freaked out. We have 50 years worth of data to back this up
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  2258. The Minister for BO How does that smell ?
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  2259. If you process all the asylum claims you get to deport 40,000 people and save 6 BILLION Those that have a right to asylum when working in the economy will generate another 2 billion in tax
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  2260. Only 4% pay iht A vast majority of the land is owned by large estate owners. If you want more family farms and homestead they need breaking up. The exemption has lead to an explosion in land prices
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  2261. All Bone wants is low taxes for the rich a continuation and a of tax havens. Over a decade of Tory Austerity and we have an ever expanding trade deficit a borrowing level that is off the charts, does Bone want the NI cap of 50k abolishing? Of course not he's one of these right wing idiots that think the free market is everything and would flog off the NHS to his rich mates. UK spends < 8% of its gdp on it The US spends 17%+ of its gdp on private medical care with tens of millions of people ending up uninsured and people going bankrupt coz they can't pay the medical bills That's the sort of free market hell he's lobbying for
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  2262. do some research into the cost of fossil v renewables (hint renewables are cheaper by miles) here's a starter for 10 This is from an independent report people need to know the true cost of fossil fuel and how were being screwed Quote Norway has amassed a trillion dollars in its state petroleum fund from extracting 43 billion barrels of oil. The UK has extracted 48 billion barrels but has no such fund, he points out, because “it elected to channel its petroleum windfall to fund tax breaks for oil and gas companies.”
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  2263.  @okbutthenagain.9402  your getting burned senseless by Fossil subsidies and extortionate fossil prices as the government takes you to the cleaners to feed money to thier donors and rich mates and your distracted by a small bunch of activists? All I can say is your easily distracted away from the true criminals in this case the government, Cameron cutting Labour's Green policies on energy and insulation has already cost consumers 10's of billions propped up by the Tory Party the UK energy sector will make 170 billion in excess profits over the next 2 years with NO meaningful windfall tax. What are you going to do about it just cross your fingers and hope gas prices come down?
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  2264. Why cant she do her job? She was speaking at a right wing Libertarian think tank The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research mainly funded by big oil such as ExxonMobil These people dont give a sh1t about working and middle class there sole purpose of existing is to screw as much money out the system for the billionaire and corporate class while removing any public services You want a pension well FU no state one You want healthcare wheres your insurance payments You want a pay rise heres some police to beat you up didnt you know striking is illeagal now
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  2265. Labour will win by a landslide Why The economy is a total mess, Sunak and Co are spending billions they dont have on all sorts of trickle down cr@p that doesnt work making the problem worse month on month. We are in reccesion with high inflation, high interest rates contracting public services and still borrowed 130 billion last year with gdp to debt at 100%
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  2266. That's because this stuff is propaganda by the elites and thee wealthy.
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  2267. It's all RW propaganda, if you dig into some of the detail there shutting down offshore tax havens used to avoid IHT for example It's elites trying to scare you into voting for their choice
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  2268. No there not there Libertarian elites using Populism to push a Billionaire economic agenda
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  2269. Because you want them to have better jobs in 5he economy instead were importing higher paid workers to undermine the middle and professional class. This Has a nock on effect in pushing more uk workers into lower skilled jobs And Suppressing wages at the bottom by squeezing wages in the middle ​ @judejudeu6344 
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  2270. We have a low tax economy for the wealthy at least. Let me give you an example Government has a VIP Lane for PPE instead of awarding contracts to UK firms money goes to an insider 200+ million. They use a variety of shell companies to purchase overseas. The 60 million profit also goes through offshore shell companies into tax exempt trusts. Aside from the blatant immorality and corruption non of the 200 million benefit the wider economy its a straight sunk cost. There's no tax paid on profits no UK companies generating jobs nada @HankD13 
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  2271.  @NorthernMouse52  Reform are all mouth and no trousers. Its policy by FogHorn If you want an example of how bad Reform would be on migration look no further than the Rwanda policy another shouty we did stuff but err people wouldn't let us do stuff so we need to err take away your human rights and the maybe we can do that thing but.... etc
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  2272. That's because we still need the skills but to get people over we have to give Visas to dependants a lot more which made up 1/2 the 1.25 million total  @steveb951 
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  2273. If you run an economic model which doesn't invest in the resident population but prioritizes tax cuts you need mass immigration to plug the skills gaps and the economic shortfall form lower tax intake its a vicious circle @marumaru6084 
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  2274. @jollygolly-f4m How is privatising the NHS running the biggest tax break in uk history for the wealthy and binning net zero which will save and is saving me money in favour of Nuclear at 3 times the cost and and an average wait time of 10 years to build a reactor? Tice and Farage are a clueless couple of crusty old farts who know nothing about anything.
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  2275. And the Tories won't get rid of the Islamophobia + the more fachy wing
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  2276. The US is making the energy transition were not As renewables come more online thier manufacturing costs will fall dramatically
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  2277. What really irks me is that renewables are cheaper by a country mile than fossil and we've given hundreds of billions of pounds in subsidies to the fossil companies in subsidies and tax breaks but non of that is ever brought up.
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  2278.  @stuartwood5448  ev charging can be next to zero or if you have domestic solar zero Octopus do a V2g scheme which gives you cheap overnight charging
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  2279.  @stuartwood5448  Quote Norway has amassed a trillion dollars in its state petroleum fund from extracting 43 billion barrels of oil. The UK has extracted 48 billion barrels but has no such fund, he points out, because “it elected to channel its petroleum windfall to fund tax breaks for oil and gas companies.” Jeez you people are so gullible
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  2280. @stuartwood5448  the current windfall tax rate introduced in the budget this year is 35% and 45% for renewables but they can write it off against exploration costs expected to be 6/7 billion and decommissioning old North Sea plant the cost estimates for that are 55 - 75 billion over time. Shell and BP where a net drain on the exchequer for the last 3 years not only did they not pay tax but in 2021 Shell got a rebate of 91 million all of this is documented in government papers and reports. Hunt has also said if Brent goes below 71$ a barrel there exempt from the windfall tax. Like I said ALL this information is freely available in government documents yet people wish to believe a fact free alternative narrative pushed by the fossil industry and there enablers in government Historical data on oil revenues are available from the OBR as well as most of the data I've quoted
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  2281. ​@woodstockxx they do when existing transport links are already clogged to breaking and get told you can't have infrastructure because we need dosh for a tax cut for rich people in IHT
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  2282. His leader Nige is getting a mill a year from an offshore billionaire This stuff is nonsense
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  2283.  @philbrainy2399  he doesn't understand anything like all the Reform crowd.
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  2284.  @stephan5673  we've had 20 years of Putin his FSB murder squads to know what true evil looks like, a man who deliberately unleashes nerve agent that if it got into the water system could kill thousands. Deliberately chosen to display to the world violence and repression The invasion of Ukraine has been in the plan for 8 years logistics experts have put together the buildup plan and how equipment and men have been deployed and also the expansion of the Russian forces from open source material. This is Putin's war and the deaths on both sides are on his hands
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  2285. Of course he should resign the story isn't over there is more to come staying as an MP just sprays more manure all over the Tory Party His wife got unsecured loans of 30 Million I wonder who from?
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  2286. So your anti capitalist now? This is basically how the US system works so your saying we shouldn't try copy the most successful economy in the world? Next you'll do a 180 and be calling them evil socialists
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  2287. The level of self delusion on this channel is stunning Frostie the clown negotiated the protocol the whole of the Tory party voted it into law knowing full well it put a border down the Irish Sea and sold out the Unionists. Pretending there's a magic button that someone can press is delusional, the NI economy if you look at the data has already realigned with the EU's and suffers non of the crippling self inflicted damage of Bodgers crap deal. Both the EU and US have told the UK to go swivel a deals a deal
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  2288. We have a low birth rate of 1.6 which needs topping up with migrant labour
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  2289.  @maccagrabme  There not illegal s there refugees they use that type of language to dehumanised them to disconnect you from the fact there liviving breathing human beings. When they've poured enough bile and propaganda into your brain then they start with the concentration camps, when the camps are no longer enough.... etc It's all Kabuki Theatre
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  2290.  @maccagrabme  We left the Dublin Acord so no there is no mechanism for returning them to France. I've a better idea why not send over some recruiters from the NHS and find all those refugees that are displaced Doctors and Nurses given how understaffed our health system is. You live your closeted privileged life due to the west's insatiable appetite for Oil Gas and minerals when this thirst produces wars and refugees you want to wash your hands of the problem sorry but that's how it works. We have huge staffing shortages in nursing homes as well fetch a load in to do that job as well instead were going to waste billions finger pointing and calling them names
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  2291. The problem with Reform is thier policies are bollox Either an economic car crash or populist Guff
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  2292. Brexit has screwed over our physical goods exports and imports and suppressed our service growth but hey why use real data when you can just make up your own narrative Quote "How much has the UK trade volume decline? After adjusting for inflation, the total imports of goods decreased by £37.8 billion (7.4%) in 2023 compared with 2022, while total goods exports fell by £15.2 billion (4.6%).1 Mar 2024" Quote "How, then, can we account for the strong UK services export growth compared to the G7 average? The answer is – again – that it is important to consider the right counterfactual. If we account for rising demand for services exports, we see that British exports should have performed even better than they did."
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  2293. Johnson chose this shitshw coz he only plans for tomorrow and he could claim he got Brexit done and yes the EU would negotiate a veterinary deal as it makes Northern Ireland go away
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  2294. Tax cuts don't create growth its completely delusional thinking they do Osborne's corporate tax cut was spent on share buybacks increasing CEO pay in the bargain and went straight to increasing UK debt If you want to grow the economy you invest in physical and social infrastructure and get money into the pockets of the working and middle class Bottom up middle out scrapping Austerity and Trickle down policies
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  2295. Stooge for the fossil lobby who sponsored it more like
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  2296. ​the current talk in EU countries is 30,000 our totals have more than doubled since Brexit last year it was 80,000 So 30,000 + say 20,000 more sounds a good deal to me As this year its going to be near the 100,000 It's a better offer than what InActionMan is proposing housing migrants indefinitely at a current cost of 8 billiona year and escalating
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  2297. @raptorheli2  it can't be renewable? Why not cost of tidal is on par with Nuclear and with renewables you get a lot of off peak energy which can be used by businesses and industry. Mass storage and next gen batteries are starting to appear
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  2298.  @raptorheli2  in California they implemented a 750 million cost Tesla Megapack facility which saves ERCOT 1 billion a year. We've sent a man to the moon built the Internet and the IPhone We have Sand batteries, liquid metal batteries, liquid air batteries, hot rock batteries. My home system uses a large water tank to store heat greatly lowering electric usage
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  2299.  @raptorheli2  I run my house for the most part off the energy I produce adding a battery would push the envelope further. You could equip 1/2 million homes with solar domestic batteries + insulation for the cost of Hinckley C Net zero works by smoothing the demand curve and using smart tech it doesn't replicate the current grid. At least 40% of the energy would need to be decentralised running as a mesh. Once you plug EV's into the system you have unlimited smoothing capacity
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  2300.  @raptorheli2  my house uses next to no energy winter or summer due to insulation my biggest use is hot water in winter and during summer autum spring the water tank acts as a thermal store Why are you fixated on lithium? Its old tech By the way my house was built 1935 and the insulation is a retro fit + extension 2 years in now with a battery or EV I'd be 90% off grid
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  2301.  @raptorheli2  1st batteries don't have to be lithium based Finland are developing Sand Batteries for communal heating, the uk has a liquid air battery facility outside Manchester the US has started deployment of Flow batteries for grid backup and Sodium Ion + Solid State are starting to appear. My insulation costs +10% on build I loose / gain +/-2 degrees over 6 to 8 hour I've doubled my ground floor area and cut energy spend by 80%, the thermal and standard solar pay back in 10 years Net zero isn't 1 thing its insulation, grid storage, smart v2g, meshed domestic networks feeding into the grid, small scale wind and solar chipping away, smart glass, smart heating. Hinkley C will eventually cost 70 billion that's ×6 windfarms of equivalent capacity a tidal system would only cost 50 billion up front the nuclear base cost was 35 billion last time I looked and is 3 years late with additional cost overuns
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  2302. What doing next to sod all about all the hidden russian money in Londongrad the money laundering capital of the world Non Dom central?
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  2303. @TG-ts3xn  5he NHS waiting lists Low crime detection and defunding the justice system Crumbling public buildings Abandoned infrastructure projects The economic wasteland that is Conservative economics + Some legacy Thatcher era ones Barley functioning rail network Sh1t in rivers and ballooning energy costs from failed privatisation Housing crisis created by Right to buy subsidising house purchasing while stripping councils of valuable assets yet they still have to house the homeless shelling out near 50% of their budget on housing support How Conservative do you want it its sh1t enough as it is
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  2304.  @Lt.GonvilleBromhead  you Bury the Tories so badly they cease to exist and you have Labour for a couple of terms while the right of politics sorts itself out The root of the current problems from migration to the economy are in Osborne/Cameron s switch to trickle down Supply side Thatcherism + Austerity until you beat that out of right wing politics any time they take charge your heading down the same path.
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  2305. Starmer is targeting the smugglers not the smuggled cooperating with the people who run the border on the other side reclassifying people smugglers in the same light as organised crime and seizing their assets plus getting rid of the backlog that's costing us 8 billion The Tories offer is to shout a lot about the smuggled as if that will brig down the numbers hint it won't and Its not hard criticising the Tories they do nothing even when they do do something its to ensure the water companies can pour untreated sewage into the rivers and sea
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  2306. The cost of energy in 2021 to UK consumers was 30 billion in 2023 its estimated to be a 170 billion it will cost proportionally double staying as we are rather than going net zero due to gas & oil price instability. 140 billion over 10 years = 14 trillion. Energy cost could still be 170 billion per annum To achieve net zero invest in new infrastructure 48 billion over 10 years = 4.8 trillion. Energy costs down to 30 billion This is the extreme case with ongoing high gas prices but there is little to show that gas will come down or if it does by a pre 2021 margin meanwhile renewable energy gets ever cheaper
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  2307.  @uingaeoc3905  It's service growth and it's lower than it should be anyway outside of London the regional economies are contracting with goods exports down by 7.4%
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  2308. There hard right never been near the centre
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  2309. you do know renewables are cheaper don't you and by a considerable margin to gas generated electric
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  2310.  @roygreenwood79  Thank the Conservatives for the mark up spot price is tied to gas
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  2311. Widdicombe is talking complete sh!t Liz Truss was completely wrong we have 50 years of data since Reagan & Thatcher which shows Tax cuts DON'T create growth The average growth rate with Osborn's corporate tax cut was 0.5% GDP increasing tax receipts by around 40 billion till it went up this year at a cost of 200 billion in lost tax receipts. All the data we have points to companies using the bulk of tax savings on share buybacks in turn increasing executive pay
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  2312. The BOE had to bail out the Kwerteng budget to the tune of 130 billion in quantitative Easing along with the 700 billion printed through the Covid period you have a case of too much money sloshing round the system all of which has trickled up. Its why inflation has been so sticky a lot of it needs taxing out of the system the wealthy are on a spendathon bender quote Luxury goods boom in Britain as super-rich youngsters buck the recession Rich kids fuel sales of brands such as Burberry, Louis Vuitton and Gucci They’re young, rich and mortgage-free, and the scions of the 1% are having a roaring twenties. Despite the economic gloom currently shrouding the UK and many other western countries, sales of luxury brands have been booming and growing numbers of buyers are young adults. Swiss watches, Louis Vuitton trainers, rare Birkin bags and 81-year-old whiskies are among the products that are fuelling impressive growth in the bottom lines of luxury brands such as LVMH, Burberry and Kering
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  2313. Its just the culmination of 13 Years of Thatcherism trickle down + Austerity If you follow a failed economic model for 13 years the sh1t really starts to hit the fan aka RAAC, ballooning crime figures, prisons overcrowded more and more people in the asylum system because your not processing them because you've cut staff. etc.
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  2314.  @lesliekillingback4971  yea like all those extra legal migrants what did the elites tell them oh vote us out and we'll control our borders :) Yea and open them up to the 3rd world M U G S the lot of them
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  2315.  @jasonjones2470  Given young people voted to remain and stupid fkin near death pensioners voted to leave the demographic shift by crumblies dying means the current population without knowing what a complete screw up leaving was would be is 55%+ remain. The more years that past the more stupid old farts who believed farage's bollox are no longer here
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  2316.  @JACB006  given old stupid people voted to leave and young people voted remain the current population makeup is 55% remain. The further we go the worse it gets and don't forget the bitterness felt towards pensioners who voted leave with no skin in the game
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  2317.  @JACB006  You got what you wanted and it's sh1t so you spin a mythical reality that it hasn't happened while wanting to inflict more misery on the working people of this country. When your ready to admit to me you got conned by an Elite who have zero interest in what you thought you voted for then maybe we can move the conversation on. You took back control and now have half the 3rd world's doctors and nurses coming here while our own emigrate for better pay and conditions. This is the reality of what you voted for not the Nostalgia fuelled utopia the Elite's promised you.
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  2318. I'm surprised Reform got 1 vote in Blackpool that was where they had the 2.9 quake that put a stop to fracking old Tice here is a stooge for the fossil lobby and wants to fetch it back.
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  2319. What your supporting here is removal of free speech and a direct route to Authoritarianism your the unpatriotic one
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  2320. The Tories only want to build in the London and south east area the Scots and Welsh don't vote for them get real
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  2321.  @IRISHSALTMINER61  Maggie is the cause of most of the rot her Thatcherite agenda was paid for by asset stripping oil money and globalization and the Big Bang the Tribute acts trying to do a version 2 are doomed to failure you can only piss away that money on tax cuts once
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  2322. ​@RemoanersRtosserswhat like last time when they properly funded services grew the economy and added +25% to average wages
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  2323. @RemoanersRtossers go find them yourself you lazy toad Minimum wage had a huge effect on average wages Also The top 9% paid more tax the bottom 20% less the rest of us pretty much unchanged until the Tories came in
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  2324. ​ @chkldstgee2433 I mean Brexit is only a force multiplier it just makes any problem worse Look at immigration 1.25 million with 1/2 dependents and why the steep rise in dependents well that's easy children isn't it good old Brexit😅😅
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  2325. They have the same economic policies just further right than the conservatives which is driving high migration so how does more of the same but harder work?
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  2326. For a family couple it's 3 million 1 million each farm allowance 500k each iht How much tax relief do you want. Dyson has been buying farms then renting them out pushing up prices so he can avoid IHT
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  2327.  @nickerrison-davey9099  farmers feed their cattle supplements all the time
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  2328.  @markbanner6473  ? me Your the one denying the statistical reality of 12 years of Tory Supply Side Economic policy. All lower taxes for the rich have done over the last decade and a half is expand inequality reduce services lower people's disposable incomes and increase personal taxation.
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  2329.  @markbanner6473  Tory Supply Side Economic policy of tax cuts for the rich has seen an unprecedented reduction in services shrinking disposable income skyrocketing house prices eye watering increases in costs put on graduates and the highest personal tax burden since WW2. The wealth gap has ballooned in the last decade even in lockdown the rich just minted it in while we had to tighten our belts because god forbid you tax someone who can afford it
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  2330.  @markbanner6473  The data is from the Office for National Statistics compiled by the government Quotes Britain has now experienced a “decade without growth” according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies and the latest official projections (2018) . FT 2022 Feb The UK is facing two lost decades on living standards The Times Feb 2022 Boris Johnson is leading Britain into the trap of becoming a “low growth, high tax” economy that will lead to a “lost decade” for prosperity. etc etc Leading Economist from the LSE J Van Reenen 2007 The economy is probably the most successful legacy of the Blair years. ... Britain has enjoyed 15 years of continuous growth combined with low inflation.
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  2331.  @markbanner6473  I've posted overall trends even the FT regards the Tory decades as shyte I could explain why but your immune to economic theory it would seem
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  2332.  @markbanner6473  selective about what 12 years of data
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  2333.  @markbanner6473  The current economic plight is rooted in Thatcherism (Supply Side Economics ) and Brexit both tenants of the current regime put both together and your going to have a collapsing economy that will take years to even get back to anything like real growth. Supply-side economics assumes that lower tax rates boost economic growth by giving people incentives to work, save, and invest more. A critical tenet of this theory is that giving tax cuts to high-income people produces greater economic benefits than giving tax cuts to lower-income folks. Essentially, the more money the rich are able to keep, the more the whole economy will grow. But the evidence reveals two fundamental problems with this story. First, its primary prediction is wrong—giving tax cuts to the rich does not increase economic output or create new jobs. Instead, tax cuts for middle- and low-income taxpayers are much more effective at boosting macroeconomic activity. Second, supply-side theory misunderstands the actual mechanism by which tax rates influence macroeconomic activity. While supply-siders maintain that lower rates at the top incentivize people to earn more money, the evidence shows that tax cuts boost output mostly by putting money in people’s pockets and thereby stimulating demand. Why is supply-side economics controversial? Opponents of supply-side economics argue that rather than increasing revenue for the government, lowering taxes will instead increase the deficit. As a result, the government will have to cut programs or raise other taxes to make up for this shortfall, unless it wishes to run a permanent deficit. Most of the UK’s soaring inflation is down to Brexit in an article with Bloomberg Adam Posen a leading US economist said 80 per cent of the reason why the UK will see the highest inflation of any G7 country next year, as per the latest IMF forecasts, is due to the impact of Brexit on immigration and the labour market. He warned that Britain is showing to be less elastic than its counterparts in its post-pandemic recovery, and that it could be trapped in a high inflationary period for longer. “You’ve seen a huge drop in migrant labour, a disruption in labour markets that everybody experienced due to Covid and reopening, but with fundamentally less elasticity… and that [Brexit] has to be a major part of it,” he told a conference at Kings College in London yesterday. “When you look at the monetary factors, the growth factors… the UK doesn’t look that different from the euro area. “When you look at the macro factors, it’s very difficult to see anything other than the labour market issues. “There’s been no regulatory changes… It really seems like Brexit has to bear a disproportionate role in explaining the inflation.” And his analysis doesn't even touch on the trade friction introduced at the borders which has seen a drop of 15% in exports to the EU massive delays and mountains of paperwork adding large huge additional costs on imports/exports.
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  2334. He's offering something for people from the centre left to the centre right If you want to waste your vote on a bunch of far right populist grifters go ahead. It's not like we can't see the consequences after 4 years of the current far right set of griffeters that are in power now
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  2335. Don't vote Conservative if you want more money in your pocket since 2010 real average wages before this was down -3% under Cameron / May now Johnson will add -5% Raising the pension age to 66 breaking the triple lock giving the bankers 2 billion in tax cuts are all political choices
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  2336. No there not Sunak has an even worse uturn record + 23 tax rises for a start
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  2337. Reform are a rebadged Nationalist party you really don't want there economic agenda its even worse than the Tories its to the Right of Trickle down supply side, you remove all labour laws and safeguards regulations etc then keep the bulk of the population poor to pay for a ruling elite.
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  2338. He'll stay in power by a small majority and continue with scandal after scandal, we've barley touched on the dodgy Russian money funnelled into the Con Party and Boris's acquaintance with Oligarchs. There's all the covid contract stuff to come out billions in lost payments and dodgy PPE contracts with Michel Moan being the first to be investigated then the care home fiasco with covid patients being sent back to care homes with no testing. Or the 37 billion wasted on a fairly useless testing system Johnson is incompetent and he surrounds himself with incompetent people
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  2339. Keep pumping out the populist propaganda with Billionaire economic and tax priorities the Gammons love it Running at a loss and misinforming the public at every step with your right wing griffting BS which is currently screwing over the Tories oh how the rich wish us to live.
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  2340. @jamesw2414 happy new year I did some digging the Billionaire owner out in Dubai is connected to the Lagatum institute a right wing think tank with connections to the Koch brothers climate denial network Small world
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  2341. What's wrong with protesting you jumping on the fascist state bandwagon
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  2342. Thatcher gave Jimmy a Knighthood and Currie gave him open access to Broadmoor the Head of the CPS is BANNED from reviewing cases except those tagged NATIONAL SECURITY. The reason is you don't give that power to a political appointee because it can be abused to prosecute political enemies thus you have separation of powers between the Judiciary and Parliament. This is a non story started by Patriotic Alternative (PA) a British far-right white nationalist group which states that it has active branches nationwide if you wish to lie with neo-nazi's then feel free.
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  2343. 48% are Athiest, God save us from Bible bashers
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  2344. ​ @daveross-lq5nv you'll not get that round here the channel is billionaire owned and pumps out right wing crap to convince the masses that trickle down economics is the future
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  2345. Brothers of Italy Fratelli d'Italia Ideology National conservatism Right-wing populism Neo-fascism Political position Right-wing to far-right
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  2346. Reform represent the elite and billionaire class don't kid yourself @DavesGarden1714 
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  2347. Were not he's voted for by the Parliamentary party
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  2348. where outside of London is that relevant, I've just liquidised my Mothers estate with decent savings including a 3 bed detached its not even 500k I'd be overjoyed to have 1 million to pay tax on 450k
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  2349. ​ @leonardbenzies6374 the one where policy is approved by the Ghost of Thatcher and signed off by Brexit Jesus Till the election were trapped there too
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  2350. Who cares all good Conservatives send their kids to private schools I know lets privatise all the schools and spend the money on tax breaks for the rich and when they can't afford to go to school the little mites can go play fruit picking on a farm.
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  2351. ​ @pmarsh3700 well voting Tory and nothing will change Voting labour and lots of things will As for REFORM thier economic policies will drive up legal migration because its a consequence of Supply side trickle down Thatcherism
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  2352. The old way is dead a bunch of grumpy old men sat on a sofa opining about the good old bad old days won't change a thing We spent most of lockdown decentralising and moving systems to the cloud and virtual machines there simply is no reason for the vast number of firms to go full office the best your going to get with a lot of them is hybrid. Also the age of decentralised working is here the Tech revolution is in full swing, Tory boys are crying over their empty offices shuttered starbucks aren't going to change a thing. This is a stupid argument anyway there's been a large increase in productivity because of home and hybrid working and the upgraded systems we've put in place and there's a skills shortage. Decentralised working allows firms to recruit from a larger pool of workers not tethered to a location just think of all those young Green / Lib-Dem / Labour voters now moving to rural Con areas and changing the voting demographic no wonder the Tory Boys are getting the sweats.
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  2353. There right wing elites with zero answers to the country problems but hey waste your vote what do I care you'd only vote Tory otherwise The billionaire class laugh all the way to the polling booth with you chumps around
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  2354. only 1 in 8 like the little toad according to polls so it's not surprising
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  2355. Your commenting on a non story delivered by someone in JRM was getting paid for fake tv work by an offshore billionaire
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  2356. If your that poor you use public transport the whole argument against this is a con 90% of vehicles are compliant and of the ones that aren't their diesel
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  2357. don't make me vomit the guy is gross
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  2358. He's a greedy thieving conservative following free market fundamentalist ideas, what gives you any notion that a Tory chancellor wants to be fair?
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  2359. What's the point of her even being in the SNP? Their voter base is young Liberal and secular she just sounds like an old out of touch Tory
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  2360. I'ts not even a proper figure it's calculated per WORKING household and is over 4 years there are 28 million households as opposed to working households and 32 million taxpayers which gives you £1187 instead of 2k divide it by 4 and it's 296 a year Labours proposed tax rises are targeted on the wealthy and assets taxes such as CGT so it's irrelevant
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  2361. Nige is a populist Tory don't fool yourself Tory economics got us here
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  2362.  @evolassunglasses4673  its supply side inflation on world commodities + greedflation from corporations Interest rates have zero effect on both
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  2363. Dan Needle the tax expert said there was nothing to see I'd believe him over a Daily Mail owning non dom who doesn't want to pay tax
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  2364. Good 12 years of Economic stagnation negative wage growth and reduced spending power a feat not achieved by any government in 200 years The chancellor made it perfectly clear that he will prioritise big business corporate profits above all else
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  2365.  @mike747436  A lot of the figures are distorted by realignment both on the GB side as sections of the economy implodes and NI where the supply chain is re-routed through the South. By the way did you know that the EU starting in 2016 has pumped large sums into the South to develop and expand Ports and road links which funnily enough extend North. The South is now the fastest expanding economy in the EU and that expansion is rubbing off on the North. This faux war by the DUP if successful will completely tank the NI economy and start a trade war between the EU and US v GB which we will loose badly
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  2366.  @darranevans8609  if my wife and I died tomorrow my son would inherit just under 2 million, IHT doesn't kick in till 1 million and there are multiple ways of legally avoiding paying it
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  2367. Prison as a punishment mechanism doesn't work we know this from the reopening statistics
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  2368. Energy costs have tripled because of our reliance on GAS, renewable sources were already cheapest on the Grid back in 2019 Switching would reduce costs but then Energy companies wouldn't be able to scalp 140 billion out of the UK market in Excess profits Over 10 Years that 140 billion is 1.4 trillion makes switching to a renewable grid look like chicken feed
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  2369. no she doesn't 80% of asylum seekers get asylum that means her department are housing 20% who should have been deported already and 80% who should be working and paying there way Total for last year was 80,000 applicants last year so 62,000 will be granted its no where near the levels that we were dealing with during the Iraq war she is completly fkin useless same as every other Tory MP
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  2370. she did a job didn't even cover half of the impropriety and goings on if you want the full SP go listen to this podcast Partygate The Untold Story ITV News
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  2371. Quantative easing is used to stop the economy going into recession the real problem is we've been in a semi recession since Cameron took over with too date a -3% growth in average wages. The effect of leaving the single market has also devalued the £ by 20% in real terms
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  2372. so there starting a program of investing in renewable infrastructure of over 20 billion and where currently paying 140 billion in EXCESS energy costs this year alone and things won't get better? Not addressing the energy crisis as the Tories aren't doing is somehow better? Get out of here your having a laugh  @jackhadroom4540 
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  2373. Even if we were in the EU you'd need higher taxes to reduce net migration overall, I agree it was less in the EU & we have a low birth rate BUT the central issue no one wants to talk about is taxation and the lack of it being levied against the wealthy to be invested in improving efficiency & productivity. Our NHS isn't short of staff it needs infrastructure investment to make it more efficient instead the Tories plug the gaps with more nurses as a short term fix  @Innoruuk 
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  2374. Starmer isn't weak far from it he's completely ruthless
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  2375. So reforms plan is what bigger tax cuts? If you don't invest in the economy for 13 years then the answer isn't lower taxes
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  2376. According to Oxford University researchers, ending fossil fuel use by 2050 will save the world at least $12 trillion (€11.3 trillion). The study disproves the fallacy that going green is economically difficult, says Professor Doyne Farmer, who led the study We are dependant on Fossil because the Fossil lobby want us to be and will do anything to stop the gravy train being turned off
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  2377. No they won't they can't reduce tax because we have a debt ratio of 100% Net zero will save energy customers money because the High price is down to GAS if the grid was renewable prices would be 1/3rd of what they are now and Legal migration due to right wing economic policy is the problem not 50,000 boat people
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  2378. ​ @keithlowton308 100+ billion in unfunded tax cuts we've done the lettuce thing now we need adults to fix stuff
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  2379. It was a universal benefit introduced by Brown its now an uplift to pension credit, this is what happens when a party instigates an unfunded NI cut to bribe the electorate
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  2380. Brothers of Italy Fratelli d'Italia Ideology National conservatism Right-wing populism Neo-fascism Political position Right-wing to far-right So there not allowed to tell the truth now? Bloody typical of this station
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  2381.  @errol8000  why is that would he be stupid enough to believe the FogHorn of ignorance?
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  2382. she's talking utter Cr@p as usual
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  2383. It saves consumers money that's why Sunak and Tice are against it gotta keep the fossil fat cats fat screw the working people what about fossil profits
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  2384. He hasn't put any money into the economy the last budget was the Usual Trickle Down Supply Side Budget from Hell 8 billion to bankers 2 billion to millionaire Pensioners 6 Billion to the fossil industry etc +£1000 extra tax to the average worker with fiscal drag Its in the Truss mould but without the market crash
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  2385. Where irrelevant that's all The 3 big power blocks in the world are the US EU and China As a gateway to the EU we where relevant to the US now were not so they don't waste time on us
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  2386. A conference claiming to be Conservative sponsored by the fossil lobby and spreading climate denial on thier behalf because god forbid we get away from dependancy on fossil fuel at such a key time is shut down. Nige whines like a baby, is the guy in the pocket of the billionaire fossil lobby or is he just a useful idiot?
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  2387. Tax cuts don't grow the economy the return is around 0.20p-0.30p in increased GDP growth so for every £ you cut in tax it generates 25p All there has ever been is the wealthy claiming it works we have 50 years of data which spells bullshit
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  2388. What like the Freedoms you've lost already to protest or your freedoms under the ECHR that they want to take away or the freedom to strike for better pay another Great Tory idea. GBEEBIES is nothing more than a propaganda network to distract the Gammons
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  2389. Abandoned promises Garbage economy Endless lies What's clear is people will vote tactically to get the Cons out of power
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  2390. Older male voters over 50
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  2391. They want to cause a stir but given that you can have a full on biological hermaphrodite to a Tory Boy Saturday night cross dresser in the same pool it gets complicated.
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  2392. Blame Theresa May who started down the route of breaking the system
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  2393. The police have read the guidelines on running a safe campaign and election May2021 still available on the yougov website Why the tossers on GBeebies can't is beyond me Partygate was Sept-Dec 2020 during lock down 2 pre vaccine
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  2394. Our problems are deep rooted we've had 14 years of stagnation in that time Germany saw +15% wage growth, France 11% etc. ours was -6.1% in the same period of 2010 to 2023 @drdeadred851 
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  2395.  @terrytunney4089  the current prices are artificial if you change policies they will fall even further, local government are spending 20 billion on housing support in some cases near 1/2 your council tax. Labour will do something about it to get the votes of generation rent
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  2396.  @audie-cashstack-uk4881  if you want less immigration then raise taxes and invest in UKPLC, low tax deregulation = high migration due to lack of investment and skills shortages So Tice is talking out of his ar5e
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  2397.  @matthewbellis0  banks are buying a load of new builds. Quote Jun 2023 — Barratt Developments has sold a portfolio of 604 new homes to Lloyds Banking Group subsidiary Citra Living in an all-cash deal valued at 168 million
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  2398. Since when has healthcare been a staes rights issue? GOP care about a fetus why? Political football as far as there concerned the woman can bleed out after pregnancy and the kid starve
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  2399.  @muckle8  that's because a large chunk of public opinion is media driven take this piece for example its designed to make you outraged it presents a tub thumping solution which is completely unworkable and unobtainable while rolling you up about immigrants I'm a Technical Analyst when all the migration rhetoric started getting heated before the referendum I did a deep dive into the topic, historical, social and economic So here's a few facts which people like Nige don't want to talk about The UK birth rate is 1.6 it needs to be 2.1 to maintain the current population I did a quick calculation we need about + 250k to remain stable An EU migrant pays approx 80,000 more in tax than someone born in the UK to the exchequer and a non EU migrant 28,000 Without a stable population the tax burden on workers will steadily increase to cover the shortfall of an aging shrinking population What we need is an adult conversation about where we get the 250k what skills we require from non at all isn't an option and then another adult conversation about do we want to expand our economy if so is there a case for more migrants. The Tories saying one thing then doing another isn't a surprise big business will be pressuring them and they think they can get away with throwing some red meat into the debate to distract with Rwanda
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  2400. So he wants to remove my human rights and indoctrinate my kids? What's it going to be called the Farage Youth?
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  2401. The ultimate piss take is the government slow rolling applications to make the problem worse 2010 18,000 people in the system 2023 140,000 people in the system Why the fk aren't you angry at the do nothing government there the ones taking the piss
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  2402. There climate deniers who want to turn where I live into a Fracking spoil heap
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  2403. ​ @boota1979 saves 3.5 billion of Tory waste straight off then the 1/2 billion dead cat Rwanda scheme for 0.2% of dingy crossings
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  2404. Trump is a 1 man crime wave There are 19 other cases in progress aside from this one young Donald has been a very naughty boy Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3) Tax evasion, money laundering, rape, inciting a riot, treason, theft it's quite a charge sheet
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  2405. but that goes against government policy as the vision of Brexit global Britain and deliberate managed decline of farming Quote The UK is "sleepwalking" into a food supply crisis and the government must step in to help farmers, the National Farmers Union (NFU) has warned. Yields of tomatoes and other crops will likely slump to record lows this year, it said, with potential supply problems ahead as already seen with eggs
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  2406. This is so funny dragging partygate back into the headlines and reminding everyone what a bunch of dicks the Tories where The SG report only told half of it if you want the full SP go listen to this podcast Partygate The Untold Story ITV News
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  2407. Removing billions in Tory waste You Know that tax cut for fossil fuel companies that over time = 75 billion, the Millionaire pension tax cut = 4 billion a year, Non Dom = 2 billion, 1 billion in consultants etc. Bit of Tax reform as well get more people who are dodging like Zehawai & Mone
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  2408. why would anyone vote to remove their human rights and worse rely on this bunch of lying chancers not to abuse it
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  2409. don't worry they don't want us they'd rather us continue going bankrupt and picking off our industry and services
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  2410. @fredflintstone1428  we have real data to show what a fkin skip fire Brexit is economically It's all over the financial analysis media Reuters FT Bloomberg plus economists So yes I believe the BOE it ties with every other economic and financial analysis
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  2411. To what rebadged trickle down cr*p in a different wrapper they pedal the economics of the Billionaire class and all their tax breaks + the climate denial of the Fossil lobby
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  2412. Mini budget was god awful even the markets thought they were taking the piss borrowing for tax cuts for the rich
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  2413. ​ @FireTripperJeff China are going all electric on cars and there the biggest deployed of renewable energy on the planet. Yes there still building some coal stations but Chinese thinking is about being self sufficient in energy they have seen what happened to Europe and being blackmailed by Russia on energy
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  2414. ​ @trulyexorcise2918 what child labour? The sector is already moving away from Cobalt Tesla doesn't use it anymore and the oil industry uses Cobalt in refining which is then waste and not recyclable. By next year you'll have a proliferation of sodium ion batteries as well as solid state there are already multiple heat storage technologies on the go + creating hydrogen from water using spare renewable energy.
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  2415. REFORM ar spouting the same populist guff the Tories are the only way of dealing with this is processing the claims
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  2416. There not as incompetent as the Tories low bar but the clear it easily.
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  2417. No he's just shit at his job and lies his arse off always has There will be no border in the Irish sea? yea right the fukwit couldn't wait to give NI away £350 million a week extra for the NHS - In which reality We've taken back control - hundreds of thousands of import export documents have now to be filled in plus 10's of thousands of health certificates.
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  2418. You could say the same at the over 60's who watch daytime TV and read the Daily mail
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  2419. Lockdow has nothing to do with the current shyte state of the economy and the country its garbage can Conservative economic policy
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  2420.  @richardsculley67  You need to stop with the conjectures and look at real economic data. The impact on the economy of the Pandemic overall was 2% GDP The impact of hard Brexit is 5% GDP ongoing. Each % point of GDP is worth 8 billion to the exchequer. During covid and hard Brexit we lost over 1 million workers there are currently 1.3 million vacancies the economy cannot grow under the current Economic policies which is why we have -15% trade and a GDP contraction with 10+% inflation looming. The economy still doesn't have the same number of people working in it that it had in 2019 Yes its the governments fault and no its not economic shock from the pandemic
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  2421.  @richardsculley67  bulk of raw materials come through the EU, my wife work's for a small manufacturing company their supplies are from Vietnam via Germany and Poland plus other places. The German distributor has them down the list because of problems trying to supply to the uk as does the Poles small orders have stopped altogether and small batch exports are no longer viable, they've lost 5 staff from 20 and can't find anyone to replace a couple of them my wife is an accountant and there swamped with hundreds of thousands of pages of documentation and endless tax issues round going from 3 vat rates to 27 There are very few companies that make 100% of what it sells if you take a car for example it would has parts shipped to the uk from all over Europe you break that on demand frictionless supply chain and the economy will blow up not all at once but in the slow moving total economic train wreck were experiencing. Go look up what's happening in the Pig industry the whole sector is in economic meltdown
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  2422.  @puckinhell622   When you move from a roll on roll off ferry transport system to one requiring checks the throughput declines, we are an island by simply slowing down the movement of freight your slowing down the economy all major economies bar the UK and Russia are back to over pre pandemic levels. What's the connection between the 2 countries ? One has trade sanctions foisted upon it by the world for starting a war and the other deliberately put trade sanctions and barriers on itself. The 2 areas of the UK that have recovered totally to greater than pre pandemic levels of economic activity are the City which is service based and Northern ireland which has access to the single market
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  2423. Frostie the no man good luck with that a political chameleon who is no more genuine than the lying blonde idiot that tugged his leash
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  2424. Many? Its the sole purview of the wealthy at 6% why should we subsidise it?
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  2425. @Yorci62  went clay pigeon shooting the other week with my son (yes I'm a well off pensioner with plenty of time to indulge in researching how to make my home more energy efficient and also look at the bigger picture) They installed a huge solar array which provides 120% of thier power usage for the hotel and lodge over the year The manager had it installed when electricity shot up he said it saved the business 100k so far it would be more if battery storage was cheaper and an option I have thermal solar it provides 75% of my hot water capital costs are paid for by year 7 Your the one who blindly believes the pure horsesh1t your fed by the right and the fossil lobby
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  2426.  @Yorci62  Renewables are cheaper now and There's nothing stopping us deploying small scale mesh networked solar and batteries through residential properties especially on new builds. It will not cost more short term because of net zero it will cost more short term because of privatisation and a lack of investment in grid infrastructure. Our energy costs have risen because they rolled back Labour's renewable policies and stopped investment. and We don't pay for a new windfarm development it's done by private companies who borrow on the Market and provide Electricity and get a forward contract price. That price for Dogger Bank WindFarm is 42 in comparison Hinkley C if it ever comes online is index linked to inflation standing currently at 120. If you bought battery storage tomorrow and put it on the grid at strategic nodes it would pay for itself within 2 years by storing always on power. The cost of Peak Gas Standby Generation is Billions as a method of Grid smoothing it is completely outdated in comparison with software driven fully automated Mass Storage.
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  2427.  @davehallett810  Why do you think Starmer is a champagne socialist there are a fair few of his shadow cabinet are from the North. Take Reeve for instance who will be the architect of a Labour economic policy she's from Leeds just down the road from me studied at Oxford and then the LSE her work on what's called the every day economy is worth a read. The policy of introducing new publicly owned generation is something many on the centre / centre left have been advocating rather than full on nationalization. I thought Corbyn was awful
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  2428.  @davehallett810  no one is defending what should have been done on their watch I have a long list myself People are extremely nieve at the toxic nature turning a blind eye to this sort of thing introduces into politics we've seen Kremlin money and influence grow over the last decade or so. This network of shell companies and hidden assets has to stop
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  2429. No one is going back to the EU What we may end up with is frictionless trade like what was promised by the brexiteers and is the main cause of screwing our import export and trade up completely We also need a proper service agreement
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  2430.  @garrym5682  it's Johnson's paper thin trade deal that's the issue not the EU. It was a political decision to go down the road of customs checks.
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  2431. Its populist garbage the fact your taken in by it is a pretty sad indictment of current UK media
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  2432. wef is a talking shop you muppet
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  2433. When you increase house prices by 66% + rents and decrease wages by -7% over 14 years what do the young have to look forward to? They can barely make the rent cant afford t9 get married or have kids so stick your Murdoch opinions where the sun dont shine
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  2434. Tax cuts don't create growth its completely delusional Osborne's corporate tax cut was spent on share buybacks increasing CEO pay in the bargain If you want to grow the economy you invest in physical and social infrastructure and get money into the pockets of the working and middle class Bottom up middle out
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  2435. Since 2010 the Tories have spent 1.3 trillion on producing zero growth & increased the population by 8 million plus average wages are-7% lower than 14 years ago And Your claiming its going to be better with more extreme fiscl policy than the Cons Delusional
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  2436. all he cared about was his elite status bank account maybe we should join the EU to get guarantees like this If you are legally resident in an EU country you are entitled to open a "basic payment account". Banks cannot refuse your application
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  2437. Reform are just rebadged Tories at this point We've seen what putting far right populist grifters in power is like they would be no different
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  2438. ​ @jon-xd7tl save it from what he pedals the same economic policies that drive legal migration He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about
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  2439. Why what's wrong with working services and real pay rises, were -7% worse off than in 2010 on average
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  2440. 50 years in the making the ultimate ar5e end of Thatcherism Energy bills tripled Trains that don't run raw sewage in the rivers housing shortage Even the Horizon scandal is Thatcher and the Con's fault Outsourcing everything at cheapest price screw quality or accountability
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  2441. It was set up post war to stop governments sliding back into fascism, you know like stripping citizenship or setting up labour camps in a foreign country The only country to leave it is Russia
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  2442. Its not much of a scare if you don't vote Tory you might get what better health service a party that doesn't waste 1/2 a billion on Rwanda and isn't dealing with the causes of the 1.25 million legal immigration 1/2 of which is dependants? Gosh really afraid we may get some competency and stop p1ssing away billions on trickle down cr*p Leidolfr 
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  2443. Anti bullying and anti discrimination training saves money by reducing work place litigation and increasing staff retention as well as improving recruitment
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  2444. @user-it7lf7kk8m  no I follow what's going on and got to finding out about the dark money sloshing around after brexit and Cambridge Analytica. Nige has connections with various far right groups, think tanks etc. Such as the Heritage foundation, the Legatum institute and people like Steve Bannon
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  2445.  Trainrhys  no they won't, there's been numerous studies showing that there not going to go live on a private island but wish to remain at the centre of culture, parties, events etc. If you have gobs of money your at best spending the interest so will swan around some cultural capital The one's that do leave are fk all use to the economy as their hoarders
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  2446. No one picks the Tory leader bar the elite membership
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  2447. Virtually non, there have been a number of studies done on this most will stay they have their homes here and are emeshed in the London high society social scene The Ultra wealthy aren't even spending the interest or added wealth to their portfolio's
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  2448. Frostie the no man architect of the current debacle of a deal?
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  2449.  @marcusashwell8314  do you even know what woke is I'd suggest the dictionary. Frostie is as chameleon as the rest of them say any old shyte to be in power
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  2450.  @jrobs1133  if you cut £1 in 2010 to get that service up to speed and working efficiently needs far more than just replacing that £1 in real terms now. The Ministry of Justice's “botched contracting” of probation services will cost the taxpayer £467 Quote Tory austerity 'has cost UK half a trillion pounds of public spending since 2010' A decade of austerity by the Conservative-led governments after 2010 resulted in more than half a trillion pounds of lost public spending and a weaker economy
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  2451. To cut the need for migrant labour you need to change the economic model and invest in the UK and its workforce such as modern transport links free University Reform will be even worse than the Conservatives given they appear to be clueless on economics
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  2452.  @elipa3  Our food production has gone down since leaving also courtesy of the Haunted Pencil Quote Brexit leads to unsafe meat and African Swine Fever warnings as UK border checks on food stop The UK was supposed to introduce its own ‘sanitary and phytosanitary’ post Brexit border checks on fresh food in July last year but then Brexit Opportunities minister Jacob Rees-Mogg scrapped them
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  2453. The Tories are toast they lost because they were incompetent most of their seats they could have won went to the Lib-Dems
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  2454. The entire Tory agenda on energy and renewables by 7 Bins is a complete lie here's why Quote The OBR concludes: the debt impact of future volatility in gas prices is at 13% of the UK gross domestic product (GDP) to 2050. This dwarfs the debt impact of 6% of GDP for investing in net zero. Second, it investigates the potential of new, growing energy solutions to cushion price volatility Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP
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  2455. He's never run for office before so has never had a manifesto to break
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  2456. Trump win? Are you off your meds?
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  2457. So for the 1st time since Wilson we will get a centre left government and you want me to not vote for them how strange? have you not noticed our rivers and sea are dying from pollution our schools and hospitals crumbling around you?
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  2458. Wow you really want to see the Tories annihilated into 3rd place in the next election
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  2459. In what way are they worse there economic and social policies will improve your life make you better off than voting Tory what more do you want
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  2460. Biden has turned round the US economy by injecting 2 trillion into it over the next 10 years turning it into the renewable tech hub of the world its kind of a piss poor example given there the leading economy in the G7 by a mile with low inflation and 13 straight months of lowering unemployment numbers @joepeacock-ew4zr 
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  2461. He used campaign funds screwing a porn star isn't a claimable expense aside from that there are 19 other cases in progress Insurrection (7)Financial (6)Election interference (2)Sexual misconduct (1)Other (3) Tax evasion, money laundering, rape, inciting a riot, treason, theft young Donald has been a busy boy
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  2462. Scargill was stunningly stupid but your wrong about Thatcher, a lot of the economic woes today are the direct result of Thatcherism
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  2463. not really they suffer from the same ideological blocks that stop the current lot fixing anything
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  2464. SME's used the trick of paying the directors low salaries then paying themselves with dividends you avoid NI as well doing this The biggest problem SME's have aside from energy is Brexit red tape and in some cases wholesale removal of its export trade and the destruction of the on-demand supply chain
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  2465.  @KJ-js7pi  I didn't know that thank you
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  2466. Yea like who'd vote for endless delays to freight thousands of pages of documentation which cost GB business 7.5 billion plus PA, have to buy new computer systems to deal with the endless VAT (4 -> 24+) codes the 60% limit on origin of goods that also needs a new computer system to track components origin plus UKCA on the horizon so more money down the toilet in dual certification. Come on NI step up to the plate and suffer like your ex GB buddies ;) don't make Frostie and Bozo look like complete clowns
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  2467.  @boofuu3145  do I care about an Elite gasbag?
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  2468.  @jimmimckenzie8549  one that stops the elite money laundering and engaging in tax evasion you mean Bring it on
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  2469. He's an elite the guy lies through every oroofic in his body. Populist A hole same as Johnson There griffters always on the make
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  2470. there in hotels because the Tories refuse to process them You get what you vote for in this case the most incompetent government in history
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  2471.  @dangerousfables  and how much of that 160 billion budget is being siphoned off to the private sector? Last I heard around 5% of the current budget is used in administration costs liaising patients across the public private sector, the total admin bill is 14% which is way too high partly due to privatisation and outsourcing. 3 billion in agency staff 6 billion on bank staff to cover shortfalls as pay fails to keep up.
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  2472. Net zero = cheaper electricity and an end to strategic dependence on world commodity prices which are manipulated by multi national cartels as in gas
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  2473.  @peterjones7303  yes why wouldn't they . I can already get a. Special EV tarrif that's a fraction of the day time tarrif
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  2474. @UtubeRwokeLefties  how much time do you think you need on a 7.5kw stream. We do around 200 miles a week you can get that overnight on 1 charge + your battery can be used for grid smoothing saving the electricity companies billions giving you a virtually free overnight tarrif and a reduced daytime tarif
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  2475. @UtubeRwokeLefties  In its simplist form The current demand is on what is called a duck curve, reducing peak demand by using smart things which time shift into lower demand areas means less overall generating capacity needed to produce more electricity. The more you turn the demand curve it into a straight line the cheaper everything gets and push / pull as well now your really talking big savings
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  2476.  @UtubeRwokeLefties  your ev charging turns oon and off with the rest of your smart devices.
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  2477.  @NeilCWCampbell  I'm lucky in that we live on the schools doorstep and I could take time off whenever an issue came up which was near on once a fortnight while he's got qualifications coming out of his eyeballs he couldn't face University and we tried to get him an Apprenticeship by that time I'd retired and without having the time or the sheer stubbornness and making it a mission to negotiate the system he would have ended up on the scrap heap. He's now a qualified gardener and very happy but the mess the Tories have made of the social support system makes you so angry luckily his boss loves him to bits his own son is downs and he took on all the support material I pushed his way. There is literally nothing those mindless feckless arswipes with their cuts to everything haven't broken
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  2478. Not as many as Sunak but why waste your vote on Tory + delusional imigration policy?
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  2479. I'm glad your happy in your identity with nature's relentless desire to evolve and the myriad genetic threads and possibilities you have a small population who are just different, categorising them and assigning them an identity based on your experiences is pointless.
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  2480. @Tab Ford 90% of the population exists within certain boundaries to declare everyone is categorised by those boundaries allows politicians and others to ostracize and denigrate the non conformist. You mock what you do not understand those who try and understand or do not share your passion to denigrate the marginalised are equally mocked its the politics of hate and division.
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  2481. We should give up what little rights we have because dinghies You don't get to pick and choose who has these rights either we all have them or non What sort of a neo fascist country are these people trying to turn us into? Do you get a free brown shirt if you subscribe?
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  2482. Labour will expand investment in the likes of Doctor and nursing training reducing the need to import them from overseas. How is that not better than anything the right have to offer?
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  2483. Net zero means cheaper energy prices and decoupling from world market commodity shock Another war in the middle east and you'll be bleating about petrol at 4£ a litre
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  2484. There was always levers we could pull while in the EU For example banning zero hour low paid contracts that resulted in off shore multi nationals fetching in around 1 million migrant GIG economy workers. There were loads we could do now were fked
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  2485. We have multiple disused airfields near us from ww2 all in the greenbelt also a bankrupt golf course there's plenty of sites like these all over the country
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  2486. @nicholasweaver7809  since when it's been an economic disaster from day 1 with zero plan
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  2487. Bankruptcies are at a record high, SME's sell to their closest market its called trade gravity the economic impact from Brexit is -6% GDP a loss of 40 Billion in tax revenue and were just getting the 2nd wave of checks and paperwork coming in @rb1062 
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  2488. ​@dave4803 why we've seen a catastrophic failure of right wing economics over the last decade and a half The worst economy since the Napolionic war, pre dates Labour's formation
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  2489.  @111111877  I studied Economics we've had Hard Right Thatcherite supply side trickle down economic policy for all 13 years + Austerity. Just because Cameron was socially Liberal didn't stop him wrecking the economy with Extreme Thatcherism
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  2490.  @dave4803  all major capitals across Europe and the US are cosmopolitan its where thier wealth is derived from If you want better social housing and less knife crime you need funding from central government the Tories defunded the justice system, youth services and asset stripped Council housing stock Short term measures with long term consequences
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  2491. we left with a hard Brexit the economic fall out from that is -5.5% GDP resulting in 44 billion reduction in tax receipts to the Treasury 10 billion in additional costs of red tape and paperwork per annum Broken on demand supply chain no major investment in the UK since 2016 if you don't believe me look at the decline in car manufacturing Further disruption promised with the retain EU laws bill which would add 85 billion in business costs over 10 years Benefits Raw sewage in our rivers and sea as we don't have to comply with the water safety standards anymore
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  2492.  @realityalwaysbulliesopinio1961  If you put trade sanctions on yourself what do you expect? Did you know Northern Ireland has -3.5% less food inflation compared to GB
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  2493. It is goods exports in real terms are down by 7.4% and service growth is suppressed quote from Bloomberg How, then, can we account for the strong UK services export growth compared to the G7 average? The answer is – again – that it is important to consider the right counterfactual. If we account for rising demand for services exports, we see that British exports should have performed even better than they did.
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  2494.  @uingaeoc3905  I used to work in the service sector (software technical analysts) my company relocated to Amsterdam and Poznan in 2018 because of Brex1t. One of the guys at tennis has an Small manufacturing business they've gone down from 20 to 12 staff with exports world wide shrinking by 20% due to supply chain issues and trade friction. The local craft gin distillery saw it's export market vanish overnight. Were a small northern town and that is a huge amount of money disappearing from the local economy. there is only so much of this death by a thousand cuts we can take. so stop trying to justify the worst trade deal in political history.
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  2495. How detached from reality do you have to be to believe that turning the UK into the North Korea of Europe is somehow a good thing? The Brexiteers promised Singapore on Thames they delivered Argentina on the Channel SME'S need access to a market 20 miles away and soon to be implemented service sector rules will cut the City off from the eurozone, whatever the brexit ultra's promised is never going to happen all you'll get is more of the economy spiralling down the toilet
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  2496. simple policy of I dunno living up to our obligations under the UN convention on Refugees and saving us 6 billion in the process or Does Tice just want to jump on the populist fascist playbook and move to the final solution miss out the internment and concentration camps
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  2497. The FT did an economic analysis on it its basically the result of 13 years of Austerity pay cuts and increasing workload Part of that increase is severe staff shortages The Tories being the arseholes that the,y are would rather spend extra billions on supply and agency staff than fund proper wage rises After 13 years of Austerity multiple tax breaks for the rich a failed Brexit millionaire/billionaire wealth doubling over the last 2 years they now want to service that wealth by penny pinching the middle and lower class. Yet people like you come on and defend it tbh I think you and people like you have Stockholm Syndrome
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  2498. Brexit was a pack of lies it will never work And Imigration is driven by right wing economic policy
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  2499. That may be so but a bunch of elites pedaling Libertarian clueless economics doesn't help anyone Reform are just shills for the billionaire class
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  2500. ​ @Charlie-o1r4p go look up Voyage of the Damned 1939 ECHR is the last resort against government overreach
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  2501. We've been in recession outside London for well on a year Our disposable income has now regressed to 2006 levels In 2016 our economy was 90% of Germany's its now 70% Its estimated that Brexit has cost the UK Economy over 1 trillion in GDP since 2016 (330 billion in lost tax) When in the EU net immigration was 200,000 it was 750,000 last year 500,000 the year before what's this years total going to be 1 million? @Jack-fs2im 
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  2502.  Trainrhys  They don't pay income tax now so what's the loss? were subsidising their lifestyle and the money they save in tax is pumped into assets such as property causing property inflation. Since 2010 property prices have increased by 66% with 25% during COV alone while the government has pumped 1.8 trillion into the economy in extra borrowing
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  2503.  Trainrhys Unfair in what way? They are receiving huge tax breaks on unearned income which does zero for the economy because it gets locked into assets and no longer circulates. It's not about having a socialist country it's about providing a socialist floor so the Capitalist ladder works to it's maximum effect. The Ultra rich are freeloaders they generate little and choke the life out of small businesses who are the major businesses of tomorrow
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  2504.  @KingNothing100  as a proportion of my total wealth and income more than the millionaire/billionaire scroungers
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  2505. I'm middle class I don't pay cgt Sunak and Hu nt do are they middle class? And why would you not pay public sector workers a decent wage or do you prefer the Tory way of wage suppression then filling the jobs with migrant labour? The words cake and eat it comes to mind
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  2506. we've had 3 years of chaos and were now getting higher taxes than at any time since WW2 plus a shrinking purchasing power and that's after negative wage growth and a stagnant economy under Cameron / May. Boris is the worst PM this country has had and is drain on your wallet, his only skills appear to be employing people who can't hold their drink and vomit all over the place so cleaners on minimum wage have to clear up after them
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  2507. So we did brexit and the numbers of legal and illegal migrants went up now they want us to give up our human rights? Are these muppets for real?
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  2508. Go read the government guidelines for running a safe campaign and election May2021 it's still on the yougov site I guess the police can even if Conservatives can't The May 21 election was post vaccine with ever decreasing restrictions
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  2509. You are correct they've put off getting rid of the CE mark twice already, UKCA would mean dual certification at huge costs to business plus extra import/export paperwork. GDPR digital standard if we diverge its estimated it will cost UK business 1.7 billion and that's not factoring lost business due to a lack of equivalence. We are not a member of one of the 3 major trading blocks (China US EU) therefore we are a rule taker not a rule maker, every time we decide to go it alone it will have a huge knock on affect on additional costs and huge amounts of red tape to prove compliance.
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  2510. how's that the Tories rammed through a horrendous deal for this country with 42% of the vote and put a border down the Irish sea not very democratic given the insanity of it
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  2511.  @deswhelan3463  he's convinced that when they say low reg small tax that people like Mogg include them and that its not just for the 1% City centric Hedge fund and bankers. Nieve I know Singapore which is the model has huge amounts of migrant labour and is essentially sweat shop conditions outside the Financial hub
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  2512. Reform benefits? Haven't we hear that one before
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  2513.  @nickryder9669  I'm talking Macro economics the Tax base was 33% for a couple of decades till 2019. How that is divid up is down to each Party It has now risen to 37%, there's plenty of room for Labour to not tax working people and raise money there are as you say 101 loopholes that need closing and we failed to collect 42 billion of tax owed last year
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  2514.  @nickryder9669  I'm aware of that but they did some pretty dumb things as well like not sorting out housing and signing up to PFI and not clamping down of tax loopholes. Brown's lack of judgement lead to more deregulation and made the banking crisis worse than it should have been. Blair didn't sort out Zero Hour he was talked out of it structural issues that came back to bite them in 2010 letting the Tories in. The comparison is relative though Labour were always a million times better than the Tories it's just a shame we've had to endure 14 years of this cr*p for them to get their act together.
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  2515.  @mrdemocracy7106  A GCSE class could do better than the current Tory clowns. They are utterly incompetent the tax base is 37% up 4 points WTF are they doing with all that money?
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  2516. The state has pumped 100's of billions into right to buy and other schemes
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  2517.  @myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288  R and the Cons have a lot of funding from the fossil lobby. Always use this talking point to those showing an interest in the right, there's a full on assault by the billionaire class against net z. It breaks thier business model and decentralised energy production and storage removing thier death grip on government and lobbying.
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  2518. ​@Ghosts1129 in 2010 it was 800 billion. it's 2.63 billion now only 700 billion was spent during Cov a lot of it wasted such as 21 billion in fraud 37 billion on test and trace outsourcing plusl ppe bought through vip Lane, drug purchases well over cost etc.
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  2519.  @marymoor935  your getting EV's because there cheaper and pollute less weather you want them or not, people don't get nocked over by bikes the sound argument is as dumb as they come In the next couple of years they will be all over the place
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  2520. The hospitals where overloaded as it was we have over 1.5 million still affected with long Covid according to the ONS and record numbers of NHS staff leaving through relentless stress
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  2521.  @I_Don_t_want_a_handle  There wasn't any staff for the Nightingale units they just shoved loads of sick old people back into care homes to die and spread covid.
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  2522. you vote for an MP and a manifesto not the talking lying idiot that lead the Conservative party for the last 2 years
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  2523. why wouldn't you vote for it, the current Cons have stopped ex pats voting we have people here that have contribute way more in taxes to this country than you have but they aren't allowed representation on how those taxes are spent? No Taxation without representation that should be the moto of any democracy
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  2524. @oldshiny3012  yea right on who doesn't want higher taxes and lower standard of living for yourself and lower taxes for the elite millionaire/ billionaire class I mean a vote for Labour who would stop all that trickle down nonsense and invest in social and physical infrastructure increasing the country's wealth and improving public services etc.
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  2525. right wing economic policy drives migration by not investing in social infrastructure. If you want less migration invest in more doctors and nurses with free education otherwise stop complaining you get what you vote for
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  2526. You serious on this comment have you been si indoctrinated to buy this BS
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  2527. The policies she's trying to get on the books are purely for Theatre they will never do anything over the 13 years the Tories have been in power all they've done is break the asylum system and blame the EU Vote for Brexit it will help control migration they said so gammons voted for Brexit asylum explodes migration in and out at record levels god you people are gullible
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  2528. REFORM = Tarted up Thatcherism same old Economic disaster capitalist policies with more bigotry and cruelty thrown in against Refugees How does that cure the shortage of Nurses caused by lack of investment in UK skills and depression of wages over 13 years? How does that create an East west Rail link for the North? How does that help Transition to renewable energy which will cut bills by 2/3rds? Same old same old invest in nothing tax breaks for the rich and the UK workers can go fk themselves
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  2529. er that's what the Tories do all the time they have foisted their vision of Brexit on the entire population while not having a majority and also including a huge Pensioner voter base that has no skin in the game and who's views are warped by daytime TV the Daily Mail and Senility
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  2530. You don't have to live somewhere to claim CGT on it, it just has to be designated as your primary residence and after a year you can't be prosecuted for CGT irregularities anyway.
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  2531. Try blaming the government instead it has nothing to do with immigrants, during the Blaire / Brown Years average wages increased by +25% Cameron / Osborne where all in on Zero Hour Gig work and deliberately left a regulatory black hole which companies exploited fetching in millions on contracts that UK workers wouldn't accept. The companies offshored all their profits and the the Cons went about blaming migrants for their own handy work.
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  2532. why not raise it to 50 after all a recent poll showed Tory support only 8% in the under 50's
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  2533. Most unpatriotic comment on here A propaganda machine here that is steering its sheep to Authoritarianism and fascism
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  2534.  @KillerBill1953  May put a deal to parliment the Brextremists torpedoed it they wanted out of the single market as well which is why the economy is now spiralling down the toilet
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  2535. no she's not Boris signed the protocol that put a border down the Irish Sea and won an 80 seat majority on the back of his so called oven ready deal Now you want us to break an international agreement because Johnson is a liar and cheat there are no backsies in politics
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  2536. if you want more productivity you invest in social and physical infrastructure not piss money away on corporate tax cuts
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  2537. The toxic racist fascist is on his soap box again and the plebs and trolls lap it up
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  2538. Has he had some sort of mental breakdown this is what the low regulations crowd want for GB The flexibility to put Shit in the rivers and fk over their employees
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  2539. There aren't enough old white grievance fueld guys around so dream on
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  2540.  @pip1723  They came up with the points based immigration system as well turkeys and xmas spring to mind
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  2541.  @Astro_Shed  meaning that right wing economics is the principal driver of the current economic state and why legal migration is so high.Reform and the Cons both run supply side trickle down a feature of which is Supply side labour demand through lack of inward investment.
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  2542. @bigkuriboh3814  in what way does 2 million per refugee work? I'm interested do tell why all this money spent is somehow of value?
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  2543. Yea go for the racist clowns with zero economic skill as if the bar isn't nearly rock bottom enough
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  2544.  @ashno7716  just commenting on your pimping a party thats main attraction is racism and Economic incompetence if the cons aren't stupid and racist enough for you
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  2545.  @ashno7716  so your trying to tell me our Nige isn't a raging xenophob? Pull the other one and go back to shouting at life boats. https://youtu.be/7CeDdtmG3Bk
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  2546.  @lilybit7716  Trump was batshit crazy and a wannabe dictator his sole legaslative achievement was a huge tax cut for the Ultra wealthy and 4 trillion added to us debt
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  2547.  @ashno7716  this is Trolling https://youtu.be/n4vna0lfUs8
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  2548. The answer to the economic mess caused by Thatcherism is more extreme Thatcherism? Not sure I'm following the logic here
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  2549. You looked at there policies Lettuce Liz economics with Fantasy immigration policy There delusional if you think they are the answer I've shares in a Unicorn Farm to sell you  @The.brigadier 
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  2550. ​ @alistairsmith5389 so we've had the biggest fall in living standards in history and the largest tax rises as well. There is no zero zip data that shows it could be worse so what are you basing your comment on?
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  2551. its already going to happen we need a proper economic policy not based on trickle down nonsense
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  2552. @AndrooUK  renewables aren't subsidised in fact there one of the few sectors paying Sunak's windfall tax the spot price of our rigged market is tied to gas and peak demand all renewable energy is forward contract priced because its the cheapest. Dogger bank has a forward price of 42p per kilowatt hour Hinkley C 92p spot price is around 150p its been over 500p at its worst the price is coming down as we approach summer and gas demand is falling. Only 17% of capacity is wind the recognised view is it should be 40%+ we also have numerous suitable locations for tidal
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  2553. looks a good hire to me? better than shopping at Tufton street or nicking Liz Truss's economic policies
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  2554. You have a spare 8 trillion for him to blow on debt again?
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  2555. GBN got ruled against for acting like the propaganda arm of the Tory party While there is a certain amount of leeway it gets into the realm of party funding which has limits and this sidesteps campaign contributions
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  2556. @BaackAgain And what about impartiality and party funding? The billionaire that owns GBN runs it as a loss to influence politics and bypass the ballot box.
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  2557. There's over 4000+ all passed by parliment you muppet there embeded into uk law covering everything from employment law to food standards to how much shyte you can pump in the sea
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  2558. Thers a guidance document for the May 2021 elections for running both a safe campaign and guidance for polling stations I was canvassing at the time and had to read this stuff, the beer or whatever is irrelevant you were allowed to do what Starmer did, Bojo party central was at the height of lock down 2 the never ending u turns on covid policy Sept-Dec 2020 and pre vaccine The May 2020 elections were cancelled No matter how much the media bleats about Starmer there will be no police action as I presume they can read the government guidelines even if the Dail Fail cannot
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  2559. How stupid is Lee Anderson This is and always will be a gimmick, 1/2 a billion on a propaganda stunt and this numpty is taking it seriously Its no wonder the Tories will loose by a landslide
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  2560. I'd stop the boats by opening safe routes for applications and save 8 billion a year by processing the current backlog Your entitled to your brain dead unworkable pollution inducing ideas I hope you get jailed if you try it only the Tory water companies have a licence to pour sh!t all over our beaches
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  2561. ​ @grahamlonghurst1227 your going to believe the tw@ts that sold you brexit saying it would reduce migration pffff Jog on
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  2562. Vote right wing you get globalisation + Increased legal migration due to a lack of investment in the domestic population
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  2563. no it won't it just screws over people who buy second hand
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  2564. @MinkieWinkle  it's about manufacturing you buy what the manufacturer wants there is very little choice cars of any stripe need a run of millions for economies of scale The thing about a renewable grid / economy is its way cheaper than what we have just the current players are happy with the status quo Wind Solar up front cost virtually free running costs v gas low up front cost & constant energy running costs
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  2565. we have an energy crisis which needs investment in and there promising to lower taxes for the wealthy how does that work? If you pump 28 billion into renewable energy it has an economic multiplier of a minimum 1.6 which means for every £1 you put in it creates enough GDP to return £1.6 in additional taxation. As a pensioner this will help me enormously because it will lower energy costs and I'm home most of the day far more than any tax cut. Getting energy costs down to 2020 levels would be the equivalent to me of my tax going from 20% to 10%
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  2566.  @slypork5030  even with a war taxes were lower under Labour Immigration increases because we have jobs if you want less immigration have more kids our birth rate is chronically low. The Tories will just ship it in from India
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  2567. Inflation at 4.6% still means prices are rising just not by as much and its short lived winter is coming In 2021 uk consumers spent 30 billion on energy In 2023 that total will be 170 billion Sunaks answer more oil and gas licences that may effect world commodity prices in 10 years time
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  2568. We have supply side inflation on inelastic commodities traded on the world market leading to large scale profiteering If you want to break this pattern produce your own energy through renewables which are distributed and break the global corporate business model and grow your own food subsidising farming to remove as much fertiliser from the system as possible and stop the cycle of stripping the land then replacing nutrients with chemicals which again are provided by global corporations
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  2569. There efficient our government is completely incompetent and utterly useless
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  2570. ​ @davidoldboy5425 while Billionaire wealth goes through the roof on 5he back of tax breaks and a system which rewards wealth not work
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  2571. Blair oversaw +20% wage growth given the last 14 have given us -7% Average wage growth I'm looking forward to a competent government
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  2572.  @SmartCookie2022  The Blair growth was on the back of education lifting millions into higher paid jobs and turbo charging our switch to a service economy. The added real term salary increases eclipsed the take from removing the tax break on pensions allowing me to save far more and retire early. Not that I don't b1tch and m0an about it like you and also am no fan of Iraq. It wasn't till I retired and started studying economics and comparing the macroeconomic data that you realise how bad the Cons are with the economy. Even the much lauded Thatcher era her low tax came from asset stripping oil money and globalisation which is why the current bunch are falling on their ar3e
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  2573. Its funny is Sunak Trolling the Brexiteers She was sacked because the Tories lost another 2 points in the polls last week down to 23% and Labour gained 3 to 47% They've given up and are trying to shore up the Blue wall which could collapse to the Lib-Dems
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  2574. I'm not I'm explaining how economics and lack of regulation drives legal migration. I had a retired friend who was a Taxi driver who went all UKIP over Uber, his livelihood was being taken away from him by a faceless multi national who didn't even pay UK tax. @phYT01 
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  2575. @arfurdaylee  legal migration is the result of economic policy it takes years to turn round Ex 4 years to domestically train nurses for example
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  2576.  @rfurdaylee    stuff gets deleted automatically by YouTube people on the thread never see it. The algorithm has trigger combinations.
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  2577. There refugees and the main issue is the insane amount of time it takes to process them as 80% are given residency, if they were turned round quicker they'd be off the books and employed earning money paying taxes and rent
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  2578. 70% of counties by GDP in the US voted for Biden, Texas may be governed by the Republicans but it no different to any other part of the US
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  2579. get a reality check the majority of the country is sick to the teeth of stupid evil
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  2580. Try Byline Times for a better quality of News
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  2581. The policy is disgusting Its doomed to failure and a complete waste of 1/2 a billion
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  2582. Brexit is an economic train wreck and a good part of the reason they'll struggle to get even 100 MP'S
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  2583. What Southampton?
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  2584. Johnson is no different now than when he was campaigning for Brexit or when he was Mayor or when he campaigned to be leader. The guy is a fantasist and a lier who will say and do anything to further his aims, Johnson's government have achieved nothing because its all about the Johnson show and surviving the next days news cycle. What's worse than the lying is the sheer incompetence and laziness of the guy and he's surrounded himself with the dregs of the Con party there's what a couple of ministers you'd say are competent the rest you wouldn't pay in rubber washers.
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  2585. If the world switches to renewables it will save trillions of dollars as well as reduce polution across the globe. There are numerous studies out there as wind and solar have been the cheapest on the grid since 2019 We spend huge sums subsidising fossil extraction and even more on environmental clean up Also 40% of shipping is dedicated to moving fossil fuel around
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  2586.  @getthecansin  what's funny about paying through the nose for energy when we can produce it at a fraction of the cost and be energy independent like Norway whose prices rose a mere 4%
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  2587.  @mel4856  The reason for transition from fossil to renewables is primarily cost they became the cheapest on the grid in 2019 even with all the Fossil subsidies. By the way China are the biggest investors in renewables. The US is putting in 1.75 trillion into the transition. We don't own our energy the current spot price is x 7 the cost of the forward contract price on Dogger Bank wind farm. Energy independence would give the economy a huge boost its estimated that UK consumers will be paying +170 billion to the energy companies in excess profits over the next 2 years. Roll on renewables I say
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  2588.  @crawford1083  You do know that the immigrant and trans bashing is just a media device that the Right Wing uses to distract you from the real problems in your life and how shyte there making it behind your back. They have Zero intention of sorting out refugees and immigration as long as its a trigger like Pavlov's dogs and they can get you all frothing about it. Who knows maybe one day you will wake up to the fact your being played
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  2589.  @monk3yboy69  what after years plundering Doctors from everywhere around the globe all of a sudden ours are bonded serfs Get a reality check Pay them what there worth then it wouldn't happen instead of being greedy beyond belief and blowing countless billions on tax cuts for the rich like I dunno 8 billion to bankers 2 billion to millionaire pensioners in the last budget alone Oh and 8 billion to oil companies that haven't paid a fkin penny in tax for years.
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  2590. ​@Galacticmaster estimates are it would be double that to stay on fossil, wind solar energy is free whereas commodity prices go up with inflation and scarcity
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  2591. exactly Russia needs to leave Ukraine this minute
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  2592.  @hectorshouse7348  we've always had immigration before the war it was Irish after the war refugees from Europe then Windrush then the India sub continent then EU Any government will sanction immigration we have a birth rate of 1.6 it needs to be 2.1 instead of bitching about it elect a government that doesn't wollow in low paid jobs and is up to its neck in billionaire fossil and pharma lobby money. Any right wing party in the UK will attempt to instate supply side reform and deregulation which will drive down wages for everyone bar the top 10%
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  2593.  @hectorshouse7348  if services and wages had expanded it wouldn't be an issue We've had a demographic problem since the Boomers I'm guessing your one, I studied Economics its government policy being in or out of the EU won't make a difference all the Tories are doing now is importing workers from India Phillipines Nigeria etc. and destroying the middle class in the same way unregulated low paid jobs destroyed working class wages from 2010 onwards. At some stage they will pivot and open up to unskilled again citing economic necessity you can't run a Right wing low tax supply side economy without tons of cheap imported labour suppressing domestic wages.
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  2594.  @hectorshouse7348  so am I my father settled here after ww2 via a Russian Gulag and the Polish Parachute brigade I'm now retired When I bought my house 36 years ago it was at x3.5 my salary if my son tried to buy one now its x9.5 this is what Thatcherism has done to this country, my brother lives over in Norway he pays 40% tax yet his standard of living is off the scale better than it would be over here. Norway created a wealth fund and run its oil and gas business itself we sold off the leases and pissed away the tax revenues on tax cuts in the Thatcher era Right wing supply side economics at its finest If you want to rebalance the economy without imigration you'd need a huge injection of government intervention to increase productivity and automation just look at the NHS for example clapped out outdated computer systems archaic surgery practices Anyway have a nice day
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  2595. You can't lower taxes with the current economic stagnation which they promise will end stagnation (which it won't by the way) so trying Truss MK2 seems futile in the extreme?
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  2596. 80% of asylum seekers get asylum that means her department are housing 20% who should have been deported already and 80% who should be working and paying there way Total for last year was 80,000 applicants last year so 62,000 will be granted its no where near the levels that we were dealing with during the Iraq war she is completly fkin useless same as every other Tory MP
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  2597. The architect that sold you the worst trade deal in History? really your putting faith in that bunch of lairs
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  2598. Conservatives ruined the country and you want the full fat version to finish the job?
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  2599. He's just shilling for the fossil companies who are screwing people for trillions Quote A multimillionaire Brexit donor funding anti-‘net zero’ campaigns is the director of a company with tens of millions of pounds invested in oil and gas. The revelation comes as chancellor Rishi Sunak is expected to bow to pressure from the motor industry and cut fuel duty in his spring Budget statement on Wednesday. Investment manager Jeremy Hosking has given millions to political parties including the Conservatives and Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party/Reform UK, as well as Vote Leave. Recently, he has been bankrolling Laurence Fox’s Reclaim Party, which has campaigned against ‘net zero’, and has been linked to a climate denial group.
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  2600.  @bradkaral1188  for god sake The government print the stuff you don't own it if they wanted to they could take it all away tomorrow. What Farage is bellyacheing about is the elites not being able to launder money and buy thier Coke the guy doesn't give a toss about real people
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  2601.  @tombinkley2688  that Nige doesn't give a Toss about the Plebs course he doesn't your just useful idiots to grift off. He spouts populist nonsense to highly complex problems.
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  2602.  @s.j.bluewater908  why would they freeze my account? And I have more than 1 anyway
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  2603.  @Mary_Thompson  you need to get out more that's drivel You read too many conspiracy theories
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  2604. No we don't we need a centre left The country is an economic basket case as it is with a hard right government
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  2605. ​ @pmarsh3700 Right wing policies are the reason for high immigration, Brexit means they can shop in the 3rd world driving wages ever lower, get real Tice is just a tool of the elite.
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  2606. If people with influence dont speak up and tell the truth of what is happening to this country then who? Billionaire media owners of the Daily Mail abd GBNews who peddal this batsh1t propaganda 300 million and counting on a Stupid Evil illegal policy that does fk all bar being used as a distraction by stations like this from the real problems in this country
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  2607. He'll reverse Tory Thatcherite trickle down policies that are killing the economy And why would he give details the Billionaire owner media would go into full propaganda mode telling everyone that if they Looe their trickle down perks the sky would fall in
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  2608.  @DS-cf1zc  Starmer was an exceptional manager maybe green round politics but he was the best at what he did the Knighthood was from the grateful Tories for his hard work as DPP head after he left things went south on prosecution numbers
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  2609.  @DS-cf1zc  they have said multiple times what their generic plans are what they won't commit to is taxation bar it won't go up. I could raise 100 billion in tax and still keep to the promise of taxes won't go up but there is no way on this earth I'd let the Tory client media know before the election
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  2610. Because for the 1st time in 50 years we will get a centre left government who will be trying to repair all the Thatcherite damage done too the economy and country Reform will promise every RWing fantasy policy under the sun
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  2611. Why is that ? within 6 months Vance will take over Trump is senile and delusional now his brain appears to be rotting by the day
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  2612.  @BarneyRubble-qr7px  I'm retired on a low income. Spent a load of time reading up on energy, insulation and heating. Did 90% of the refurbishment work myself including taking up all the ground floor and double insulating it. I'd suggest you widen your reading
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  2613.  @samsaravii9944  How does insulating your home to A+ standard become government control? The only governments controlling us currently are the ones in the middle east and OPEC who control world oil prices
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  2614. The reason they will get completely gubbed at the next election is their abandonment of Net Zero and JRM is a climate denier Here's some facts on the energy crisis and Net ZERO Quote The OBR concludes: the debt impact of future volatility in gas prices is at 13% of the UK gross domestic product (GDP) to 2050. This dwarfs the debt impact of 6% of GDP for investing in net zero. Second, it investigates the potential of new, growing energy solutions to cushion price volatility Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP.
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  2615. You can't debate bullsh1t which is a Nige spreads We saw Sunak trying the same play the other week it descended into a farce.
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  2616. Her economic policies were batsh1t crazy No one was going to lend us 50-60 billion to p1ss away on tax cuts for the wealthy
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  2617. Truss started a run on the £ and the rates started climbing even before she was appointed. No one wanted to lend us 60 billion for tax cuts which were unfunded. Our international credit rating is still lower than it was before she took over.
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  2618.  @LFCMattNOI  The supply side economics the Cons want to introduce to GB will crater the NI economy and anyway a lot of the businesses will go under even before then if they have to export to the South on a no deal basis and I don't think this will be slow either. Have the DUP or the Cons actually thought this through or are they just blindly digging the stupid hole with more stupid because hey feelings?
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  2619. 2010 18,000 people in the system 2023 140,000 people in the system Why sheer fkin government incompetence we've had these sort of numbers coming on and off for decades and it's worse post Brexit this bunch of fkwits in charge are just utterly useless
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  2620. Do you not get the fact that its rich burks like this that will have their tax loopholes shut down. Aside from the odd tweak it won't affect 95% of us
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  2621. @@user-in9zb5lo8z not true if you expand the money supply but it all goes into assets it won't cause inflation. Ex 2 billion on millionaire pensioners tax break goes straight out of the economy into assets, 200 billion in corporate tax breaks scheme bulk of which goes into share buy backs. If you quadruple the cost of energy businesses have to pass it onto customers, fertiliser is now 4 times more expensive etc. We've had 13 years of QE with near zero inflation for the bulk of it.
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  2622. @@user-in9zb5lo8z and I'd add Norway has 2% inflation is 95% renewable energy and controls its own oil and gas fields
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  2623.  @PGHEngineer  Thatcher pissed away oil money on tax cuts and asset stripped the country of its essential services selling it on the cheap France owns more of our energy production than we do. In the face of a global banking crisis Brown kept the economy together equal blame on Thatcher and Brown for overderegulation 2010 debt to gdp 62% 2016 82% 2019 92% 2023 100% Gdp per capita UK & US $50,000 in 2010 In 2023 US $70,000 UK $45,000 Why Thatcherism + Austerity × Brexit
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  2624. So how will Tice pay for the Tax Cuts because as everyone knows tax cuts don't grow the economy last person to try it lasted less time than a decomposing lettuce quote Cutting taxes does not boost economic growth nor lead to more taxes being collected. The notion that it does, known as the Laffer Curve hypothesis, has been widely discredited. and Even the IMF says austerity doesn’t work. It’s the zombie idea that will not die
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  2625. You've got to laugh Suella's antics knocked another 2 points of the Tories in the Polls last week dragging them down to 23% boosting Labour by 3 points to 47% she encouraged far right Yobo's to congregate and 6 policemen were injured in the melee and she represents millions? Who does she represent sounds like the ones that down 14 pints then go around the street with a lit flair up their ars3
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  2626. by 2020 there was no majority and your asking working people to implement a policy they don't believe in for under 55 's in 2016 your looking at 70% remain
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  2627. Its just a result of 1st selling of the Utilities then creating an artificial broken market which is geared to fossil fuel its been calculated that Cameron getting rid of the so called green crap has cost UK consumers over a 100 billion so far. Thatcherism and supply side economics is all about short term and screw the future
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  2628. The plan was unlimited imigration and Singapore on Thames The EU fked them over the day after the referendum in 2016
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  2629. If you want to reduce immigration you need to abandon Thatcherism change the tax model and invest in the UK not continously pull in cheap labour from abroad If you vote for right wing parties then nothing will change immigration is a fundemental part of low tax trickle down supply side economics anyone promising you both is LYING
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  2630. general tax cuts generate 20p in the £ of growth so she wanted to borrow 120 billion give it to the wealthy to generate 24 billion in growth Tory math for you no wonder the markets imploded
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  2631. why? Already off to a flying start Rwanda cancelled, prison crisis being sorted, discussions with junior doctors, repeal of the onshore wind ban
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  2632. @timfly767  the justice system will totally collapse if they don't do it Doctors and nurses are leaving the country in droves because of 14 years of pay suppression with record numbers coming from Nigeria and India to take up the shortfall in healthcare staff
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  2633. ​ @DeeZire you had a decade of Blair with wel funded services and wage growth of 25% Folloed by 13 years of Thatcherite trickle down policies from Osborne onwards. In 2010 debt to gdp was 62% its now 100% Blame lies with Thatcherism and the Tories. Even the high legal migration is the fault of Thatcherism
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  2634. And replace him with what? Another Truss
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  2635. She has a 1% stake on infosys which is worth around 1 Billion (Infosys currently worth total 107 Billion)
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  2636.  @dwaynehicks6714  how does 0.91% of 107 billion = 500 million and they have other businesses
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  2637. Why would you vote REFORM their Tory with added be evil to refugees Their economic policy is a cut and Paste from Lettuce Liz You remember her the one that single handily nearly crashed all UK pension companies and left a 60 billion hole in UK finances while bumping up interest rates by 1.5 points?
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  2638. If you transfered them to an isa you won't pay CGT on them, which i did that's a 40k allowance per annum for my wife and i
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  2639. @garygreen1782  just checked you have to sell and rebuy, your allowance is 12,500 gain per annum if you have a partner its x 2 You can use your annual allowance even if not putting it into an isa by selling and re-buying, went through this in 1990's been a long time memory is rusty
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  2640. ​ @berylwelch3526 and make things even worse are you mental
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  2641. they'd cut out a load of trickle down tax breaks think of the poor rich people @pip1723 
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  2642. Yea but last time Labour were in they didn't fail the decade had average wages rising by +25% current living standards and disposable income levels are now back to 2006 and everything is broken
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  2643. Where do they find these people? Net zero gives you Cheaper electric and a disconect from economic shock due to fossil commodity Volatility Did you know that the UK government spent 72 billion on energy subsidies last year and that energy costs for UK consumers jumped fro 30 billion in 2020 to 170 billion in 2023
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  2644. We're short of 5 million homes so rather than slag off the proposal what's your solution?
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  2645. @denzel270  you can't stop immigration its the result of the right's economic policy
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  2646.  @anonnemo2504  Tax cuts create on average enough growth for an additional 20p They quite simply do not create growth so all the tax proposals are completely unfunded Que Liz style market collapse
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  2647.  @anonnemo2504  to give more context Truss's tax cuts were costed at around 50 billion to borrowing Fiscal Drag currently adds 30 billion the NI cut cost 9 billion Tice's proposals would double + the Truss borrowing requirement
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  2648.  @anonnemo2504  where does he get the money from? If you give a tax cut at 1 end it needs raising elsewhere. Every piece of tax and spend by a government has an economic multiplier.
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  2649. why not Spending 8 billion on NHS pay sounds preferable to spending it on Bakers tax break spending on renewable energy fetching prices down rather than 100's of billions on fossil tax breaks @7702alan 
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  2650. Go read up on what was going on at No10 from wine o clock Friday to Karaoke nights to ABBA themed fancy dress parties no expense was spared on the government credit card to Rave on
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  2651. Gosh Starmer claims he's a normal human being that doesn't send his kids to boarding school to get tortured I mean educated and wants to eat with them once a week
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  2652. ​ @garrywynne1218 there's a wider economic multiplier to be taken account of due to spend in the local economies, York as a town would go bankrupt without the foreign student population
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  2653. You get to vote them out in 5 years, the Cons had an 80 seat majority and did sweet FA with it bar raise taxes and screw over the economy
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  2654.  @ScragNath  Raab didn't have a vision he was an Idealogue pushing nut ball right wing ideas some of them illegal or unworkable at worst These sort of people want believers not people that can actually do stuff
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  2655. GBeebies does it again dumbing down to even dumber levels Brexit is done its a complete ecenomic car crash get over it As Mark Carney said “When Brexiteers tried to create Singapore on the Thames, the government instead delivered Argentina on the Channel"
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  2656. GBNews is just opinion designed to dumb down the electorate as is TalkTV and other such stations I get my news from more in depth podcasts from right to left The Times red box podcast (centre right) The View podcast (centre) The New Statesman (Centre left) There are others out there whatever your political leaning you need to listen to a range of views
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  2657. Why is that relevant I used to do graduate training at the company I worked for they took on a mix of degrees not just the science based one (I tought IT skills)
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  2658. of course Starmer will stop them he has between 6-8 billion reasons to sort out this mess Labour will need every penny it can find to rebuild our crumbling physical and social infrastructure wasting any of it on gesture politics
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  2659. What's new about thier economic policies same Thatcherite trickle down cr@p
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  2660. That concept of safe country is out the window post Brexit were a 3rd country the EU doesn't give a toss if refugees leave their zone
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  2661. renewables are 2.5 times cheaper on forward contract price than their nearest rival Nuclear and the government are giving over 100 billion in subsidies to the fossil industry so how does not going with renewable seem like a good idea given their so much cheaper? Are you afraid all those Oil execs won't get their bonus? we have a shortage of energy additional renewables would fetch down the price because we wouldn't burn as much gas
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  2662.  @chrisgibson7591  why wouldn't it be cheaper your going to need large amounts of domestic solar and recent breakthroughs should fetch costs right down
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  2663.  @chrisgibson7591  Capitalism ? no its not where dealing with corporate socialism? If you want to run a capitalist system you'd have more competition and you wouldn't be giving out corporate handouts to Oil companies at every opportunity
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  2664.  @chrisgibson7591  so I invested in Thermal solar it costs 2500 including installation it saves 75% of hot water on average with 17% of gas costs spent on heating I calculated that after year 8 years at current prices + inflation 75% of my hot water would be free. And that goes along the same pattern as all the other so called green policies I've actually stumped up and paid for including replacement windows and secondary insulation. I did have an extension built so the additional insulation was cheap and I put in underfloor heating because my old system was end of life. And that model follows for nearly all renewable and green costs high up front outlay capital payback 10 - 15 ish years
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  2665. Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP.
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  2666. Why would Labour be bothered the high migration is the outcome of right wing economic policy. If your stupid enough to think a a more extreme version of Thatcherism will produce a different result then I have Unicorn to sell you
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  2667.  @richardnoyon1875  yea just the wasteland that would follow fracking and the further polution from deregulation No thanks
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  2668. So what do you think NatCon is? The conference was sponsored by a think tank funded by the Oil & Gas industry, It's nothing to do with being Conservative and everything to do with pushing a Libertarian Authoritarian world view for the super rich. Why is having a conscience over stuff like poverty now regarded as socilist and hard left?
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  2669. So your not in on the renewable agenda reforming the HOL devolving government new childcare system or closing massive tax loopholes and implementing a proper windfall tax? So the reason you don't hear about them is the bulk of the medi is right wing so there hardly going to promote Labour' ideas but instead just say they don't have any By the way the reason the justice system is falling to pieces is Tory Austerity 20,000 police let go + 20,000 office staff + defunding councils and courts
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  2670. New car sales to private buyers are down theres acost of living crisis + Used car prices have fallen + Im keeping my current car till it dies (as are most of my friends) the getting an EV on lease
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  2671. So Jacob you were taking the offshore billionaires money for doing sweet fa on tv now your complaining bit rich isnt it?
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  2672. Net zero reduces energy costs and prioritising tax cuts over investment drives up legal migration Wrong on all counts
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  2673. 2008 banking crash get your figures right
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  2674.  @nottyash100  the drilling points are on the Moor near Manchester they were stopped when they caused a 2.9 earthquake, if you rupture the ground between the shale and the water table you'll poison the water supply for Greater Manchester. Aside from that it's price is still controlled by world commodity prices. There is zero benefit to the consumers wind energy is cheap and available now not years down the line
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  2675. Same economic policies as Lettuce Liz If you want to lower immigration invest in physical and social infrastructure by making the tax system equitable and progressive so your domestic workforce is trained If you go down low tax Tory supply side economics then you need to feed it supply side migration or it doesn't work
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  2676. @paulwalker2777  they can't thier economic model doesn't work without immigration neither does Reform's, if you want Thatcherism you get migration
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  2677. Tice just wants to turn the UK into a Libertarian sh1thole for the 1% don't delude yourself
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  2678. f you want more productivity you invest in social and physical infrastructure not piss money away on corporate tax cuts
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  2679.  @mikewilson8513  The reason is if you look at what won the seats for the Lib-dems Greens and Labour it was activist canvasing on the ground Reform are mostly media hype when you talk to voters and explain their bullsh1t and racism support drains away and that's why there so spread out
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  2680. Yea right lets do an Oswald Mosley and blame it all on migrants whip up the Gammons an hand out the Brown Shirts There refugees Its against International Law which we signed onto in 1950 Its sick Its also being used as a distraction from whats really going on in the country The Tories have removed 40% of council funding over the last 12 years so blame them for your fkin potholes overcrowded schoos etc not some poor Asylum seeker
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  2681. No mention 9f the near 100 billion in tax breaks scattered through the system Or That since oil and gas exploration in the North Sea Norway has collected 500 billion more in tax
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  2682. There's nothing left to cut the reason the economy is tits up is lack of infrastructure spending over 13 years so stuff like RAAC will keep cropping up more frequently. what we need to do is Get Rid of The Trickle Down Cr@p and invest in the country for a change @MinkieWinkle 
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  2683. They pedal the same Libertarian globalisation economic polocies that Sunak does so it won't change a bit
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  2684. Net zero will lower electricity bills and produce energy independence why do you think the billionaire and fossil lobby are so keen to get it stopped
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  2685. @Flaubert's Parrot is Boris's lies corruption and tricks not enough that you'd want the corrupt racist Orange blob in charge?
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  2686.  @cheekychappyo8  yea great +7 miles on a 2000 mile border a more usless specimen of a human being would be hard to find
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  2687. ​ @wallacewhybrow2705 we've had a pro Brexit government in charge for 7 years an ultra Brexit for 4 you've gotten everything you wanted at every turn yet your fantasy island Brexit has never appeared. We have a failing economy food shortages an energy crisis raw sewage in the rivers and sea the highest tax burden since ww2 When are you people going to wake up and realise it was a Con its sole purpose was to glue the Tory Party together and appease the racists and that after 7 years is still its only purpose
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  2688. Any deal done and support for both would drop through the floor Anyway You need at least a decade of Labour to repair the Social floor which the Cons have broken, The sewage and energy system + housing
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  2689. Thousands of jobs have been lost at Sunderland and other car plants since 2016 there is also a halving in demand in the sector for UK cars since 2019 partly due to the pandemic but also due to export problems. The expected jobs for the new plant is about 1500 with 4500 generated in the wider supply chain The government is expected to contribute 100 million in subsidies so 66,000 per job As other car makers reduce production in the UK it is seen by Nissan as an opportunity to increase its UK market share. Due to country of origin rules non of the Sunderland cars will be tariff free to the EU or Northern Ireland and the deal probably breaches unfair competition rules due to state aid as well. So yea great deal for a non UK company to grab the UK market from UK car companies with the UK government ponying up a huge wodge of public cash
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  2690. Thatcherism never worked her economy was proper up by asset stripping, globalisation and oil money We're post globalisation and there's no assets or oil moneys left but we're still year on year getting subjected to more and more Thatcherism coz doing the same thing harder for 13 years will work next time NOT
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  2691. Lettuce Liz economic policies with cruelty to refugees to make the gammons feel better No Thanks
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  2692. There pedaling the same garbage Trickle down Supply Side Economics that's blighted the economy for 13 years aka Thatcherism trying to come up with novel excuses why this doesn't work is disingenuous. Sunak is as Thatcherite as they come what your bleating about is the inevitable result of its core policies for fiscal management This is what you voted for if you vote Tory
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  2693. I'm retired my Father was a refugee after the war he came here via a Russian Gulag and the Polish Free Army. I was a data Analyst Here are the numbers 80,000 refugee applicants per year of which 18,000 are rejected making 62,000 given asylum into a population of 68 million. RWANDA is a gimmick If you want to lower the LEGAL immigration of 1.25 million you need to invest in UK skills. The Tories invest in nothing they chopped the nursing bursaries introduced by Labour and now were importing Nurses from Nigeria who fetch their husband and kids. The rise in legal migration is a direct result of Tory economic policy if they try cutting it they will shrink the economy further  @Cedawood 
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  2694. You call this running? The economy has been in shambles since 2016 and it was barely standing still then due to Osborne's gross mismanagement
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  2695. cooperating with the people who run the border on the other side reclassifying people smugglers in the same light as organised crime and seizing their assets plus getting rid of the backlog that's costing us 8 billion yea right you've no idea more like it same old tub thumping rhetoric with zero results
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  2696. @Billbob228 Reform are almost as disliked by the electorate as the Tories with negative 60 as opposed to negative 70 No one outside the south east wants fracking, only the wealthy want a private health system and you'd be pretty insane to give away your human rights by leaving the ECHR
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  2697. no it won't it's a Tory scare story to go with your meat tax and seven BINS
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  2698. your talking about investigating someone who was on PAYE not deliberately screwing the system for millions with offshore accounts, this isn't the gotcha the Tories think it is with the Carers scandal just emerging it shows a system that hounds working people for pennies while allowing the elite to stick 2 fingers up at us
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  2699. Thatcherism doesn't invest it just asset stripping Osborne cut loads of Labour's programs
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  2700. Were short of approximately 1.2 million workers, we have a stagnant economy and the Cons are importing people by the back door from Nigeria Philippines and India, without serious immigration the economy will shrink because the Conservatives run Supply Side Economics which needs a steady stream of cheap labour. So when they stand on their soap box and tell you immigration is a problem ask them why they are giving out visa's to anyone outside the EU like confetti?
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  2701. I vote Lib Dem always been centre am more center left as I get older
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  2702.  @crawford1083  I'd agree with you on pr but why Reform the would implement the same supply side trickle down economic policies that Sunak is doing and has led to what will be a decade of stagflation?
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  2703.  @crawford1083  what does that word salad even mean?
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  2704.  @crawford1083  I raise the question because woke as used is meaningless. Back years ago the right had a war on what they call political correctness. WOKE itself just means don't be a racist xenophobic sexist homophobic A hole? Dredging up grievences and giving them a label isn't much of a reason to be politically affiliated. I'd have thought your income housing education climate change would feature?
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  2705.  @garyc7464  what monetary policy do they have that would improve my finances? Do they have a policy of moving away from fossil? What's their policy on public transport infrastructure?
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  2706. did it never occur to you they were just following the law? By the way the increase is down to Brexit and the Tories, vote for clowns you get a circus
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  2707. Oh yes they are Sunak the most Thatcherite you've had
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  2708. Why did you think they were lying? Conservative economic policy needs supply side labour to keep taxes low, there never going to stop legal migration
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  2709. Economy is fked from brex1t and there's been no growth for 14 years with real disposable income shrinking Also the Tories have increased the debt by +1.6 trillion It's going to take a while to fix
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  2710. ​@RemoanersRtossersPhillipino nurses fetch over thier Husband and Kids on semi permanent visas of the 1.25 million immigrants last year 1/2 were dependents. EU workers tended to be younger and more transient. The 500,000 leaving are the higher educated who can easily work anywhere creating a brain drain So much for taking back control all they've done is completely fk thing up
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  2711. Why there just rebadged Con/UKIP
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  2712.  @Dubya-i3v  why would anyone vote for a Party that were that clueless they put Liz Truss in charge, Sunak is barely credible either he doesn't have a clue on the economy all you'd get is another 5 years of Stagflation
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  2713.  @mcstyle24  which polls? The Trump economy was built on sand and debt once campaigning is under way his numbers will slide He left with -3 million jobs -3.6% gdp + 4 million without healthcare + 8 trillion in debt (+3 trillion in corporate tax cuts) +40% trade deficit The US can't afford Trump
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  2714. If there's a 10% staff shortages and people are leaving for other jobs then there badly paid end of The government is spending billions on supply and agency staff just to depress wages and somehow its the fault of workers get a reality check for fks sake
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  2715. ​ @colinmartin2921 Contuing with GAS will cost double the cost of Net Zero transition In 2021 uk consumers spent 30 billion on energy of which renewables where the cheapest source In 2023 uk consumers will pay 170 billion of which renewables will be x7 cheaper than GAS Net zero spend comes out of the government and quickly to reduce the ongoing 140 billion in excess energy profits
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  2716.  @bwilliams572  What you've put is not true we were not a euro currency. And The IMF and Eurozone abandoned Austerity in 2012 exceptions were Greece who didn't reform it's economy
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  2717.  @bwilliams572  I'd also add our debt wasn't very big at 62% post banking bail out it was always a political choice by the government.
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  2718. Inappropriate spending cuts could "strangle" growth, so austerity measures should be tailor-made by each country, the head of the IMF warns The paper on which Osborne's Austerity was based on work by economists Rogoff and Reinhart which was widely debunked by 2013 the fiscal effect of debt especially with zero % interest rates just didn't add up so much so Austerity became an ideology rather than data driven one that the rest of the world moved on from but we ended up stuck in a time warp in because our MSM was so right leaning and Osborne didn't want to admit he was wrong so leaned back on small state waffle. Instead of an economic multiplier of 0.5 as predicted by the OBR the real economic multiplier was 1.6 shrinking our economy by 2% in real terms by 2013
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  2719.  @bwilliams572  this wasn't applicable we were not in the Eurozone and were no longer tied to the exchange rate mechanism so were free to pursue QE and the sale of our own Gilts. By 2016 our debt had risen to 82% and by 2019 92% the only thing the EU did was tell Osborne he was stupid for pursuing Austerity in 2012 it wasn't working and the IMF told him the same in 2013.
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  2720.  @bwilliams572  again your talking about something that was unenforceable in the UK as we had our own currency, the way the EU controlled members spending and deficits was through controlling the issue of Eurobonds. Quote The European debt crisis, often also referred to as the eurozone crisis or the European sovereign debt crisis, was a multi-year debt crisis that took place in the European Union (EU) from 2009 until the mid to late 2010s. Several eurozone member states (Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Spain, and Cyprus) were unable to repay or refinance their government debt or to bail out over-indebted banks under their national supervision without the assistance of third parties like other eurozone countries, the European Central Bank (ECB), or the International Monetary Fund (IMF)
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  2721. We were promised higher standards not lower standards we've already got serious sewage problems in our rivers and streams we don't need lower food standards lower privacy standards lower pollution standards ITS NOT A RACE TO THE BOTTOM.
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  2722. They've got control what did you think would happen when we need labour and you now have to fetch in dependents because we lost FOM
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  2723. How far right does he want the Tories to lurch too 13 years of Thatcherism Turbo Charged with Austerity has screwed the economy as it is
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  2724. That was the Wilson days Tax base under Blair/Brown was 33%, under Cameron 33% It only started creeping up to what it is now 37% under Boris
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