Comments by "Greg Greg" (@SlowhandGreg) on "KernowDamo" channel.

  1. The 30 Bob nob
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  2. I find the Uxbridge result worrying because ULEZ should have made no difference where talking only 10% of vehicle's actually not meeting the standard. What this probably means is the Conservatives will go FULL anti-net zero even with the heatwave in Europe Tactically Labour needs to stand its ground on renewables and give the media both barrels because the renewable strategy will reduce energy bills by reducing dependency on gas and increasing energy supply. + There's just under 100 billion in fossil subsidies peppered around the Conservative budgets
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  3. It doesn't matter about issuing licences if you pull the tax breaks and subsidies from exploration nearly all the fields wont get touched. When you dig around various budgets there's 10's of billions in subsidies rebates in tax system for the fossil companies Talking of wind power being cheap and getting cheaper ive been following Dogger bank capital cost is 9 billion energy source is FREE Hinkley C capital cost is 33 bilion 2 years delayed 30 billion in government subsidies planned in over 35 years and price tied to inflation already projected electricity cost x4 times dogger bank They both claim they will power 6 million homes Life is really frustrating at the momment
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  4. Sunak has put in motion policies that are killing the economy and the BOE will keep raising rates at the rate of pain Sunak is inflicting on the middle class and headlines like yesterday with british gas making record profits he won't be able to buy a vote come the election. Just turning off Trickle down and instigating proper windfall taxes to push down the cost of energy as well as removing the onshore wind ban will have quite a positive effect we've a wind farm near us the infrastructure is there and they could easily add more turbines if planning reform got through.
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  5. Theres an interview with Emma Pinchbeck is the Chief Executive of Energy UK, a position that she has held since July 2020. She is an expert in whole-economy decarbonisation and the energy transition Its on a podcast called 'The News Agents' episode from the 24th starting at 18 minutes in ish talking about the economics of a green industrial strategy the whole piece starts at 16 minutes in ish having a pop at the 2 parties. Found it really interesting as she was looking at it as an enormous economic opportunity
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  6. I'd suggest making him a Lord, Labour will create a 100+ Lord Damo of ???? 😂
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  7. You need to talk about the cost of living NHS energy prices. That's why Labour won and that's why they will win in England. People want the Tory pain train to go away. Scotish labour are also pitching themselves as more left than there English counterparts which they woild have to do if there going to become the main party in Holyrood.
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  8. You'll get centre left economics instead of reich wing how much difference do you want?
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  9. Climb down / delay is understandable given the current cost of living crisis The things that came out of the London expansion was an underfunded scrappage scheme and public transport Quote Some 62 per cent of outer London residents said they would travel more often by public transport if it was more reliable Apparently theres double the number of car journeys in outter to inner London The Cities especially need to roll back transport privatisation Quote The first buses in Greater Manchester's new locally-controlled system have been handed over. In September, the region will become the first area outside London to have a regulated bus system since privatisation in 1986. Andy Burnham, mayor of Greater Manchester, officially received the first five buses for the new Bee Network
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  10. 2027* 113.01% 2026* 112.69% 2025* 112.79% 2024* 109.71% This is projected Debt to GDP under the current budgetary constraints so there can't be any Tax cuts I have slogan for Labour based on Cameron's renewable statement Get rid of the Trickle Down Cr*p
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  11. Mother and Mother in Law stopped voting labour because of him as did her elderly neighbour
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  12. When you start looking at the TCA a lot of it isn't implemented at our end anyway and theres a lot of fuzzy stuff in it Where not going to get better terms but the Tory diversification for diversifications sake creates huge business uncertainty and mountains of red tape and paperwork. We also dont have deals on performing artists and businesses taking in equipment to the EU or Services and recognition of qualifications is really woolly The Tories have burnt the boats on large manufacturers as a gateway to Europe the only way to increase trade is by boosting SME'S easing the trading burden won't restore what we had it may stop the bleeding and create a less hostile environment for the future. In all of this is the energy transition we will be locked out of eu and us markets if we dont go net zero on schedule
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  13. Uxbridge was a sign of things to come the Tories will go fully anti net zero
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  14. You got an economy that had an average wage rise of +25% with Blair plus funded services and a program to renew the crumbly buildings (which was ditched with Austerity) with Blair That was then this is now an economic soft centerism program won't cure a completely knackered economy
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  15. 7 bins but hey what Car does Rishi Sunak drive A Ford Fiasco Boom Boom
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  16. If you follow neoliberal policies the economy will keep spiralling down, Thatcherism and Austerity have led us to this point. Why pursue power so ruthlessly to completely fail making the same economic mistakes that have lead us down this path with a never ending string of trickle down tax and policy decisions?
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  17. So I listened to this and I've seen this popping up all day and decided to have a think 1st off I don't need child benefit at all pretty much the only thing I have in common with Rees Mogg been lucky in life and my career now retired So what would I do with 1.5 billion rather than use a high portion on people that have > 2 kids but don't need the money or have > 2 kids and are on the poverty line. There's also the politics of it I live in Tory town some of the well off people can be pretty callus and mean quick to jump on stereotypes with not a thought on how fortunate in life they are. Wouldn't it be better to focus on child poverty with a number of measures that not only looking at homes with > than 3 children but also needed help in other ways such as expanding free school meals and trying to just enable people on the bottom rung a better quality of life? Poverty initiatives would be an easier sell as well Just saying Its alright saying your not going to expand it but it was extremely callus to not have an alternative policy even a really vague one that then takes the discussion onto dealing with child poverty in general.
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  18. its a hit piece in a Murdoch paper normally FT don't stoop to this but needs must it seems, there will be a never ending stream of these leading up to the election
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  19. You can paint Sunak as on the take but i think he really is a true believer in small state Trickle Down Supply side economics. He still has the IEA swilling round As a follower of the Chicago school as develoved by Friedman he genuinely believes in Trickle down and that the wealth CREATORS are at the top The grossest example of this in the last budget was the millionaires pensioners tax cut which is being paid for with higher taxes at the bottom and middle unlike Truss hes not stupid or sniffing the old powder and at least balances the books. The whole problem though is after 13 years of this 3 severe economic shocks 1 self inflicted the well at the bottom is pretty dry and his last budget has started to really squeeze the middle class and pensioners as well by not raising thresholds. The remedy to this is a wealth tax, tax realignment and shutting down the myriad of tax loopholes problems with the wealth tax is the media it would be wall to wall non experts telling you how it would be so destructive to the economy capital flight etc. If you want in detail analysis try GarysEconomics channel
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  20. Quote from 2021 A wise tax plan silently vanished last week. The chancellor was due to narrow a notorious tax loophole for the wealthy by raising capital gains tax. Now, in a quiet reverse ferret, he won’t. Now he's PM he's still not doing it and keeping CGT low Quote Rishi Sunak saved £300,000 in tax thanks to cut he voted for in 2016 PM’s tax bill would have been higher had Tories not cut top capital gains rate Rishi Sunak has saved more than £300,000 in tax thanks to a cut he voted for in 2016, according to an analysis of his tax records. The prime minister has paid just over £1m in tax over the past three years, most of which was accrued on the gains he has made on his US-based investment portfolio. But that figure would have been £308,167 higher had the top rate of capital gains tax (CGT) not been cut by the Conservative government in 2016. The figures highlight the disparities between Britain’s income tax rates and its relatively low rates of CGT. The prime minister’s overall tax rate for the last three years was 22%, roughly equivalent to what a nurse would pay in income tax.
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  21. ​ @KizzyKismet1 most of these far flung fields are uneconomical without 10s of billions in subsidies and tax breaks the golden age is over you'll nott see much in tax if anything from them
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  22.  @KizzyKismet1  your economy will implode same way the GB one is doing now because of Brexit if you go independent but way worse. there's not loads of money in oil your better off pitching export and storage of wind energy.
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  23. You wouldn't repeal it it takes too much time you'd just amend it its quicker Crime and Policing Bill is 300 pages a lot of the bad stuff was amended by the HOL but taken out by the government on second reading you could revisit their amendments whatever happens it eats up Parliamentary time which is desperately needed for other priorities
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  24. wonder how much you have to donate to get at least your Ideas read? My big idea is for the government to sponsor factory built modular houses which can be designed and pre built offsite given the shortages of bricklayers plumbers electricians etc. You need foundations and services then your house arrives on the back of a lorry and is constructed in under a week. Sponsor = guarantee buying a certain quantity, help with certification to standards etc there are already firms out there that do Kit homes and I'm aware people like brick but the idea is aimed at 1st time buyers the council sell them land cheap on the provision they build a starter home on it within 2/3 years and have a contract with a building company to guarantee foundations services round where I live the land is 1/2 the cost of the house
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  25. Why would you have an independent labour candidate split the vote and allow the Tories 5 more years of wanton destruction?
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  26. Everyone knows the Press an the Tories will hound Labour for any move on Asylum I thought it was a smart move to focus on the Smugglers rather than what the Tories have done the Smuggled and also stand up and say they will clear the backlog (There being 6-8 billion reasons for doing that). I'd expect a full on attack on Conservative failure and a focus on how much money their policy is costing Funnily enough the Mail and Express where more concerned about reaching some sort of agreement with the EU and reentering European security groups
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  27.  @indricotherium4802  loads of the Tories round my way are what you call Blue Greens there Centre / Centre right but care about the environment and their children's future while still having a range rover as their 2nd car
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  28.  @indricotherium4802  if your well paid middle class there's no thought about being eco conscious with your car choice it doesn't stop you being keen on recycling or wanting more trees and natural spaces. There's a lot of well off people who with a nudge would install solar and switch to an EV there not socialist they float round the centre voted Tory on the back of Cameron wouldn't touch Corbyn with a barge poll but pull the Green lever in council elections
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  29. The point of Starmer? Abandonment of trickle down supply side economics and free market fundamentalism embedded into every part of government policy The mission statements and approach are lifted from this book Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism By Mariana Mazzucato Over ULEZ and 2 child they have some real comms problems Sunak and Hunt have set in motion with the last budget and general policy an inevitability that the economy will get worse for the vast majority of people. Does Starmer fill me with hope No Does Sunak fill me with dread yes
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  30. ​ @allandavies1642 I'm retired left when Labour appointed Corbyn and have now rejoined. I'm not over the moon with the current lot but given where Labour was a few years back I'll wait and see.
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  31. Your too cynical by half but I keep coming back for a listen :) 16/17 year olds was a Brown Policy I believe there's a push to ID cards one of the reasons there's been a migrant influx and not from boats but other means is our lack of closing down the black economy and ID checks as the EU has ramped up their internal security. Ports have had few to none lorry checks since Brexit happened The Economist was running a big piece on the tories lack of action on the black economy last month.
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  32. ​ @timwoodger7896 we'll see the reason Sunak can't turn it round as Thatcherite policies + Austerity are the root cause and he's doubling down on both He's pissing 10's of billions away on tax breaks for trickle down policies
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  33. You need to move to the centre to gain power, the reason that Labour are ahead in the polls is they are now Centre / Centre Left while the Tories are in right wing lalal land Personally want a more centre left agenda but the media is controlled by the right wing even with a 20 point lead it will be a hard slog to the line I've never understood your antipathy towards Starmer he will deliver you Power, with Power comes influence
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  34. @keithparker1346  Unlike the US were not going to be able to fund the level of infrastructure build required with UK borrowing you'd need a ratio of private investment The $ is the currency of last resort the £ has weakened continuously since Brexit loosing near 25% of its value also with high interest rates and the raging high levels of deb the Tories will leave us with we have an extremely weak gilt market. Planning reform ASAP so you can build and add to existing infrastructure, we have a windfall about 5 miles from me the NIMBY locals are doing everything they can to block expansion even though its miles away from the edge of town
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  35. Its not a gaff i do yougov polls unfortunately Just stop Oil etc. Are very unpopular. The media are on net zeros case even though the economics are with it. In terms of money the economy is getting worse the rates should peak next spring / summer at.6.5% the debt to gdp ratio has gone over 100%
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  36. Portacabins are warmer because of underinvestment, the school I work at (I'm retired and do invigilating on a part time basis). The main school buildings all need insulating properly and have all the windows upgraded, if you upgrade the insulation to say A+ the heating bill will be near zero because bodies generate heat I'd also add the rooms are over hot in the Summer. To put in context the 150 million the cost of the Millionaire pensioner tax break in the last Budget is estimated at 2 billion, tax break for fossil exploration 6 billion tax cut to Banking levy 8 Billion etc.
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  37. without power you can do nothing
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  38. the FT did a piece of on how far to the Right economically the current Tories are and they scored a 9 Republicans 8.5 Labour 4.75 Democrats 4.6 Interesting piece far more objective that the drivel you've just written if you don't have an FT account you can find a comment on it at tax research written by Richard Murphy quote From the FT this morning. The Tories are now the most right-wing ruling party in the developed world and are completely out of step even with their own voters
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  39.  @Grim_enigma  sorry for the tone thanks for engaging
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  40. You need to talk about the cost of living NHS energy prices. That's why Labour won and that's why they will win in England
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  41.  @annenunney9907  if you look at the polls top 2 issues are cost of living & NHS by a huge margin.
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  42. Fiscal drag has put up tax for the low medium paid by £500 a 1p tax cut for someone on 24,000 would be £125 for someone on 50,000 they get £350
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  43. Greens in my area are disaffected centre right Tories with an eco conscience
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  44. Immigration / Emigration these days is an extremly complex matter In the larest numbers are around 130,000 students that each yearly intake adds 1.75 billion to the economy and there's now around 1/2 million in the system there also given a 2 year grace period t.o work here after graduating its one of the few sectors thats growing and Brexit hasnt screwed up. Ive been arguing against the current points based system for some time and what makes it worse is the -20% on uk wo4kers + we now hear a £10,000 golden handshake For context we have the lowest rating for automation in the developed world produtivity is really low and since 2016 investment has slowed dramatically Also we have a low birthrate of 1.6 and falling and would have population decline without around +400,000 imigrants Stacked onto that there was 500,000 people emigrated last year so our inward migration was actually 1.2 million We have a housing shortage of around 5 million over the next 10 years a skills shortage of around 10% in health and education at the moment the whole thing is an ever evolving skip fire. Any thought of a economic recovery would require under Tory Supply Side Trickle Down Policy needs millions more in foreign cheap labour at multiple levels. This car crash is 13 years in the making and isnt just as a result of Brexit all that does is amplify the issues
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  45. The fields wont get developed without the tax subsidies totaling into the 10s of billions Up until the war oil prices where really low any ramp up of production will see these additional fields marginal cost become uneconomical
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  46. If you want to halve inflation you attack the source of it Interest rates affect domestic spending which isn't the core drivers in this case which is supply side on inelastic commodities (Energy & Food) Over the next couple of years its estimated that the UK energy sector will make 170 billion in EXCESS profits that's NORMAL Profits + EXCESS Profits if you wanted to cut inflation you'd tax the EXCESS profits @ around 80/90% give it to consumers with lower prices across the board. The Energy crisis started before the Ukraine war and back at the end of 2021 the government could have removed the block on onshore wind restored grants for improving insulation overhauled building regulation so all new builds and extensions met A++ energy standards as well as overhauling planning for off-shore wind. For the naysayers out there that say Oh well its the markets even the Conservative government pick economic winners and losers all the time through the Tax system hence the 6 billion subsidy to the fossil industry and applying windfall taxes to renewable energy providers. Quote Chancellor Jeremy Hunt announced that renewable electricity generators will face a 45% windfall tax from January 2023 until March 2028. By comparison, the windfall tax for the oil and gas sector will be set at a lower rate of 25% to 35%. You couldn't make this sh*t up you'd get laughed at Corey (@soper_mr) asked: "Octopus is putting our prices up, but claim to be 100% renewable. Did the price of wind go up lads?" In response, the supplier said it was a fair question that they get asked a lot. The founder of the firm, Greg Jackson, recorded a video to explain the situation. In the two-minute clip, Jackson says: "In the current outdated system, the most expensive type of energy (usually gas) sets the price for ALL types of energy, including renewables. It's bonkers."
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  47. ​ @chrisgriffin698 Blair's economy provided +20% wage growth and well funded services, I used to moan all the time about him look at the state of the country now under the Tories
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  48. its a hit piece in a Murdoch paper normally FT don't stoop to this but needs must it seems
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  49. There a bunch of moaning NIMBY's in my area wanted to cancel a cycle lane build because some trees would get the chop There always objecting about house building or any building for that matter
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  50. I drop by now and then I'm retired but have seen this before with militant it's just politics enjoy the stream Having what is effectively a party within a party doesn't work and I'd add Corbyn was a really bad politician all he had to do was keep his head down and tow the party line but as usual he's not up to being a team player and had to have his say. If you really want a more left wing party the only real choice is to lobby from within for PR and also get people out to vote younger voters are notoriously bad at turning out if they had very high participation rates you'd see policies like free tuition debt write off
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  51. The Green agenda Labour bill developed in conjunction with the Unions Childcare policy A move from Supply Side Economics to Keynesian Demand Side Economics
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  52. This Johnson's deal with the Devil coalition! The real issue is Johnson got rid of a lot of moderates and replaced them at the last election with what can only be described as zeloets who believed in Brexit Jesus now big dog has dumped all over the place their precious Brexit is down the pan as is the economy. The big donor money as well was always in the Trussenomics camp all Boris did was play factions off against each other the time for Sunak to grow a spine was with the Windsor framework and deselect anyone who didn't vote for it.
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  53. Trickle down supply side economics falls on its arse without supply side cheap labour to suppress domestic wages to boost profits. The points based system allows the import of people into high skilled or professional jobs on lower wages therefore depressing the wages of the middle class. At the same time they are squeezing the working and middle class with fiscal drag which will put people's tax bills up by on average £1000 while depressing the economy by not fixing inflation.
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  54. Starmer can't go at any pace he's not in power. Listened to a podcast that interviewed a leading industrialist representative on the topic and the private funding and tech are here at the momment her fear was noises coming from the government would drive it all to the US and EU Her view is this isnt going green its a technical and economic revolution first ones there will reap the rewards
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  55. Time for Corbyn and his ilk to retire at 74 and being in parliment since the 80's its time to go its not an OAP club.
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  56. Purchase taxes are regressive if you look at Texas where there's no income tax the Tax burden on the bottom 20% is 13% the top 5% pay 3.6%
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  57.  @mickywalters7439  I listened to an interview with the Neil Kinnock a while back he was reflecting on his battle with Militant the 2 situations are just completely different in that the Economy wasn't too bad back in that election it is a veritable skip fire now. The real parallel is a party within a party Momentum in Labour and these activists taking over local areas, membership is always more activist but if you push it too far your abandoning the voting public as the Tories are now there in all sorts of trouble with the UKIP block and the Libertarian wing. Sunak is a Thatcherite but he's having to throw red meat to the base with Rwanda. Opinion polls aside the Guardian does some good work on Focus groups on their podcasts well worth a listen
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  58. Looking at the data its tactical voting Anything but a Tory Uxbridge I had a whiff of anti net zero and something to scare.the uneducated with
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  59. Since when has parliament been an OAP home Abbot at 70 and Corbyn at 74 need to stand down
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  60. there not red tories wash your moth out with soap you may not like their drift to the centre to garner votes but instead of a hard right government a x1000 times better
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  61.  @KernowDamo  I've got loads of things that need reversing we will have our 3rd immigration bill since 2019 I'd add the retained EU law bill and reversing FreePorts and economic zones. Then there's all the problematic clauses in the new trade deals. I'm not disagreeing with you it just depresses me the level of time that would be needed to unpick all this stuff.
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  62. This is kind of rose tinted view here Momentum where a party within a party promoting their own agenda There was a similar movement in the 60's Militant tendency
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  63. there not red tory the hard right currently in power are x1000 times worse than any Starmer government would be sort your head out
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  64. Immigration is complex the only beef I have with any party on the topic is soapbox ing it
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  65.  @DJWESG1  The current lot aren't neo liberal please stop using it if you don't know the ethos and meaning behind it
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  66.  @lemsip207  You could never command a majority with JC in charge In 2017 he wasn't widely known by older socially conservative labour voter and still only got 262 seats. You needed 321 for a Majority and he had zero chance of becoming PM in a coalition. By 2019 there was no one on the centre-left who would even vote for him amongst older voters that was reflected in the polls yet his arrogance led him to hand the Tories an 80 seat majority. 2016 - 2019 completely wasted without a credible Opposition
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  67.  @tobyscustoms4813  the polling on the 2 child limit is 50-50 on labour voters and near universal on Indipendant and Conservative voters Stupidity on policy effects in the electorate is strong. So what's the point of an Indipendant labour candidate they have zero chance of winning? Another 5 years of the Tories will see a privatised NHS doctors fees an Economy that serves the 1% abandonment of net zero
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  68.  @b00ts4ndc4ts  Mate the locals were going full anti net zero believing any berti bullshit that came their way
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  69. Sunak has screwed up its going to be a landslide the best chance of PR or a form of it will be after a 2nd term when hopefully there's been some devolution and the HOL has gone.
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  70. It's all there is because we can't go back aside from Tories salting the earth even rejoining the single market won't happen if we about turned and all asked for the EU's forgiveness even in 3 to 4 parliaments off. You can't rejoin unless both Major parties sign onto it
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  71. The polling data shows high amounts of tactical voting if replicated at a General would see a Tory wipeout with a good number of Lib-Dem MP's, the more worrying thing is the Tories go full climate denial because railing against ULEZ stemmed the bleeding a bit and their client media go with them. This is bad because it should be a non partisan issue and you can see them being so desperate that they turn climate mitigation and turning to renewables it into Brexit 2.0 Labour Lib-Dems and the Greens need to do a full on media assault and point out the 100's of billions in tax breaks the fossil industry receives and also renewable energy is miles cheaper and its the Tories who have tiedices
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  72. The problem of independence is Brexit, the gb economy is intertwined
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  73. The election will be about the economy burying the Tories and Thatcherism should be the goal The Tories have increased borrowing 13 years straight the only way of changing that is ripping out vast swathes of trickle down tax breaks and policies
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  74. ​ @fmj9346 what rubbish get out more your just going round a loop of confirmation bias
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  75. He's throwing 10s of billions of your and my money in tax breaks and subsidies at this Electricity generation from wind is mind numbingly cheap compared to other sources and getting cheaper and if the costs are falling now given the energy input to power them is FREE how cheaper will it be in 7-10 years when these fields are due to come on-line We have an energy shortage now and have had since back end of 2020 yet the government has done nothing to expand supply or insulted homes to reduce demand Instead they've stood there and watched the economy burn in a raging skip fire Norway has 2% inflation and 93% renewables so I'd suggest you go dig into the economics of this before taking a side
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  76. He's like me far to intoloate of complete fkwits you need to be able to compromise over most things and have a flexible view if you don't nothing gets done
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  77. It's probably the money from the YouGov shares laundered through Gibraltar
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  78. Whats the difference between a ceasfire and a humanitarian pause? ​This is in part one of Bush's fk ups, 2006 him and Rice allowed elections to take place even though they were warned it could go badly wrong. Hamas won 40% took control and murdered thier opponents many fled. Gaza is blockaded at the other side by Egypt who don't want Iranian backed terrorists coming into thier country. The consequences of Bush decision has created a terrorist state meanwhile There's been a huge influx of ultra orthodox Jews who've been allowed to settle in occupied territories what's worse is they vote hard right crazy So you have religious nutters on both sides making sure there is never going to be peace Starmer is following Blinkin who is putting pressure on Isreal to try deescalate the situation meanwhile rockets are still being fired into isreal and Hamas are quite happy to use 2 million people as human shields and are content to let them die for the cause.
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  79. Labour are not even to the centre yet, the current Tories are way off in ukip lala land
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  80. 2 child limit is popular even with Labour voters your better off finding a different way of alleviating poverty than increasing a Universal benefit
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  81.  @allandavies1642  Corbyn was a populist elite that lived in an intellectual bubble. My father was a paratrooper in the war his foreign policy stank, my mother voted for the 1st time Labour for the post war reconstruction the likes of Bevan and Atlee wouldn't have given Corbyn the time of day. There is no difference between a populist on the left to a populist on the right, there was no grand vision just a promise to roll us back to pre Thatcher and a wasted decade were we've had to endure 14 years of Tory misrule. His biggest sin handing the 2019 election to the Tories on a plate & saddling us with an over correction to the centre. By the way the so called working class round here the young don't vote and the older ones switched to UKIP years ago there onto Reform after the Brexit bubble burst with Boris.
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  82. The working class voted Brexit and UKIP then went over to the Tories in 2019
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  83. He's not proposing selling off the NHS and privatising the BBC + CHAN4 and pensions + scrapping inheritance tax and going full hard Brexit to make the rich even richer. I don't think you have any idea how bad the Tories will really get given another 5 years look at the damage they've done in 13.
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  84. they don't have much competition and they've committed to GBEnergy
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  85. ​ @jake751 yes there is but I take it you can't be bothered to find out
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  86. The Cons run Supply Side Trickle down economics Everyone else runs a form of Keynesian Demand Side Economics which has emphasis on investment in Physical and Social infrastructure So there is a choice the 2 produce completely different economies at the Macro level So no he's not a cardboard Tory no one is
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  87. I've been writing to my MP constantly on the law and order bill he's Conservative and he comes back with excuses. I'm on the YouGov survey list sad to say when this was polled there was high levels of support Quote Britons broadly supportive of Public Order Bill's measures to criminalise certain forms of disruptive protest For 66% Against 25% So sadly this looks a media win anyone digging into it in detail knows how bad it is
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  88. Definitely I'm voting Lib-Dem tories out Tactical all the way
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  89. I tuned out of labour politics during the Corbyn years he wasn't my cup of Tea. Been impressed with Millibands renewable policy The thing I've found strange is Starmer even starting from Corbynite policies by 2019 they as well as him lost the election.
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  90. @keithparker1346  there socially centerist fiscally centre-left If you want someone further left socially find a proper champion Renationalizing stuff won't turn the economy around it will also distract and derail the push to net zero, spend on energy by uk consumers in 2021 was 30 billion this year it will be 170 billion. We need planning reform and infrastructure building yesterday
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  91. Again this is a story from a Murdock paper no more credible than the Tree Hugger comment Wait till it becomes official policy there will be hundreds of these types of stories that are deliberately seeded to rile up various groups by the right wing press.
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  92. What difference does it make Why play the Cons game and that's all it is at this stage throw s**t at the wall see if anything sticks and try sow division in Lab?
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  93. I'm for public ownership of utilities but against nationalisation on the grounds that it will suck up too much time, money and energy doing it when we face the biggest cost of Tory Crisis in my lifetime. We're at 100% debt to GDP the markets have already said no more and our biggest cost over the next decade is debt repayment @scooby1992 
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  94. Reeve has a degree from the LSE seen a couple of interviews one I remember she was talking about infrastructure investment and the Sky journo just didn't understand a word she was saying and kept on as if infrastructure was a flat negative cost. She and the labour party as a whole appear to be having to deal with really stupid people who have got in their tiny brains that the UK finances are like a households finances. I think this was why the other weeks interview on fiscal rules sounded like word salad I wish they would pivot away from trying to convince complete morons that don't understand government finance and focus on poverty and how there going to aleviate it. I know this isnt quite the topic but i was listening to Times Radio yesterday and the guy was banging on about Tresury authodoxy like we dont have 50 years of data saying Thatcherism and now combined with Osborne's and now Sunak and Hunt's Austerity doesn't work. A huge problem in all the statistics the Media and government are using is that under every metric I've seen the bottom 10% in our society has inflation at way over the figures presented. Anyway im off topic but the whole thing is getting me wound up But I did have a laugh at yesterdays stupid evil when their boats couldn't dock then i remembered stupid evil always costs us money
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  95. Trickle down supply side was debunked over a decade ago even the bastions of NeoLiberlism the IMF have come out saying it doesn't work. + The basis on which Austerity has been pursued has been debunked as well What the markets told us with Lettuce Liz is no more fantasy economics and I've been reading some interesting stuff on Net Zero recently after the kerfuffle that Sunak brewed up by ar5e kissing Farage and the far right of his party. I read the FT occasionally when I go to the Library and the money men are all in on Net Zero and there was a right storm when the recent wind farm auction collapsed it wasn't said explicitly but implied it was deliberate. Anyway here's a piece of Info which makes Sunak decision look well dodgy I can't see him calling a snap election but looking at the bottom quote "things can only get worse" Quote The OBR concludes: the debt impact of future volatility in gas prices is at 13% of the UK gross domestic product (GDP) to 2050. This dwarfs the debt impact of 6% of GDP for investing in net zero. Second, it investigates the potential of new, growing energy solutions to cushion price volatility. Quote With the energy price cap below £1,300 throughout 2021, UK households spent around £30 billion on energy during the year. In 2023 the projected spend is around £170 billion. This is equivalent to more than doubling the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 45% or almost doubling VAT from 20% to 38%. Just over 6% of GDP.  @KernowDamo 
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  96. Satan's agent on earth still breathing alas but good news non the less
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  97. The Cons run Supply Side Trickle down economics Everyone else runs a form of Keynesian Demand Side Economics which has emphasis on investment in Physical and Social infrastructure So there is a choice the 2 produce completely different economies even the Blaire / Brown hybrid was a million miles away from what we have now which is 13 years of Supply Side stagflation
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  98. Corbyn was a populist like Truss and Johnson would have suffered the same fate driven his party into oblivion
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  99.  @colinsixhitter3303  why? He's centre left your only hope of turning away from a hard right government that will literally kill this country
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  100. since when did Corbyn apologies for letting he Cons get away with the car crash Brexit
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  101. I like Chris he comes across well the best suggestion I've heard to is Martin Lewis the money saver expert guy maybe Reeve could get him in as an expert in his field Treasury Authodoxy certainly doesn't work they need some new brains in there and some fresh thinking economists
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  102. On energy the GBEnergy proposal will renationalise production over time to about 60/70 % Water is a black hole due to the insane levels of debt piled into the companies (54 billion) the way to start the process of a move to public ownership is through regulation and also part of that needs to be debt reduction there are concerns in financial circles that the water companies could go bankrupt if rates rise due to debt servicing. With voting the proposal I've heard doing the rounds is lowering the age to 16 The railway will come back to public ownership as the franchises expire The number 1 priority for the next government is to turn the economy around look fiscally competent address the problem with public services otherwise they'll be a 1 term show.
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  103.  @timelwell7002  1st off Brexit is an economic multiplier its not the cause of our Economic malaise all Brexit has done is highlight the huge fissures in our economy. You need to fix those before we go back into the EU because if you don't they will continue to fester away eating at the fabric of our society. In 2010 Cameron / Osbourne went all in on a completely deregulated zero hour contract low wage gig economy which displaced established better paid workers and resulted in a huge influx of low paid SUPPLY SIDE labour. It produced very little tax the firms running it offshored the profits. I have no problem with migration I do however have a huge problem with what the Cons did that allowed the rise of UKIP. This is one example of a deeply flawed economy. So lets tackle the thorny issue of ReNationalization. The 14.5 Billion is plain out wrong whoever is selling that needs putting in the stocks and subject to rotten eggs thrown at them. Lets say that figure is sort of right 14.5 Billion in 2019 that now stands at 17.3 billion but wait how much debt are you buying? Offwatt said the debt was 54 billion mid 2022 add inflation its now 57.2 billion. Your now looking at basically bailing out badly run water companies to the tune of 74.48 BILLION that figure could rise dramatically. That money goes straight to government borrowing you simply can't borrow on that scale for marginal benefit our GDP to Debt ratio is already 99% (3 Trillion) and borrowing costs are the highest they've been for decades. What's the solution its the tightening up of regulations forcing the water companies to do there job and also reduce debt over time, I'd also add there is every likelihood of 1 or more of them going bankrupt if interest rates keep rising. I'm sorry but privatisation is a complete clusterfk unpicking it isn't goint to be easy or quick this example is repeated throughout the privatisation industries. There is also no 1 size fits all. In terms of tax we have trickle down it needs to be progressive rather than regressive and any NON Tory (bar REFORM) will back that aim Labour Lib-Dems & Greens.
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  104. @timelwell7002  I agree with most of what you're saying but from a political angle you have 1 aim when taking power that's how do I change the fortunes of my voters enough that they vote for me again. Spending 100 billion on water while a long term goal is extremely poor value as a political and fiscal proposition you will not get any political capital from it Also if I want a quick hit to growth I make Brexit work by realignment renegotiation of the TCA and get rid of huge mountain of red tape and paperwork for SME'S farmers and sole traders
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  105.  @timelwell7002  There isn't an overwhelming majority of the Electorate who would support spending just under 1 Trillion on a program of renationalization. The polls you see include a huge number of people like me who believe that 1/ you wouldn't be able to borrow that money from the markets without another Truss type market meltdown. (Which is political suicide) 2 / If you did the project is that large expensive and complex that it would stretch over multiple parliaments provide little short term gain eat up huge swathes of parliamentary time and stop the real issues of government being addressed (Which is political suicide) If you want nationalisation to stick it has to be proportionate, over time and doesn't involve buying up private Debt Choose your battles - in putting forward GBEnergy the Country will create new renewable energy production and the estimate is 30 Billion per annum which over time will dominate the market and drive prices down. Why do you need to buy old clapped out coal stations? Water set up a regulator who will stop the sewage spills invest in infrastructure and reduce the long term debt to a point your buying an asset not feeding the CITY. There are no easy answers
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  106.  @minsapint8007  Corbyn never voted with the whip anyway so there isn't much of a loss if all he's going to do is vote against the party he's supposed to be in Quote Corbyn voted against the Labour whip on 428 occasions under Blair and Brown and 617 times in total since he became an MP in 1983 so not really a team player
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  107.  @johnwright8814  He didn't vote 617 times against the war in Iraq you get elected on the back of the party and its manifesto not on your personal wish list.
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  108. It's going to be a landslide the economic data will get worse rates have to rise further and Sunak has screwed up over energy The best thing that could happen is the Tories are wiped out completely however bad you think Starmer is the Conns are 1000 times worse
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  109.  @Andyreally  the problem with Corbyn was he was an elite intellectual and usless the last thing the country needed was a left wing populist up against a right wing populist Now we seem to have flipped the other way with the battle of the Technocrats Must admit didn't think Sunak would be as bad as he's been my hope is the spanking the Tories get put into 3rd place putting the Lib Dems as official opposition
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  110. There's only going to be so much money and less of it every day the Tories are in power our debt to GDP went over 100% I doubt this is to do with fiscal rules more to do with the bin fire of an economy For the record I follow the FT among other financial publications we are really fked as a country you think its bad now wait till next year Sunak is raising the tax base from 33 to 36 % and has around 100 million in trickle down policies that could should be cut quote A study of 500 educators found 72 per cent notice a significant difference between students who eat the first meal of the day and those who don't. Characteristics of those who don't have breakfast on a regular basis include giving up on tasks quickly, showing signs of tiredness, and being easily distracted I'm in for school food we need better educated kids and it makes a difference I'm retired but do some invigilating the kids are bad in a morning they need calories and I live in a well off area get em in early get breakfast down them. I despair there are soooo many things need fixing Appreciate the rant and understand it every passing day things seem to get worse Thames Water on the verge of going belly up no doubt will get a bail out
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  111. What are traditional Labour policies? Just nationalising stuff won't work and will lead to Labour getting booted out at the next election unless your going to take the centre with you what's the point? As for fiscal rules I could change the tax system completely yet stick to the same tax base, I'd also add over an extended period the Tories have pissed money away like confetti the latest barge fiasco will cost 2.5 billion over the life of their contracts. I have no idea whether the Starmer cabinet will be transformational. I do know the current administration couldn't run a bath let alone a country so it will be a huge change.
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  112. No your not another +5 years of the Cons will be 1000 times worse than even a Centerist labour
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  113. ​ @sirmeowthelibrarycat you'll not get a wealth tax through parliment or the general public without 1st showing your fiscally competent. It's a complete no no for the client media without political capital and trust it stands no chance. Personally I'd look at other ways of taxing wealth you can keep the tax base the same just dice the cake a different way and there is so much waste embedded into our government after 13 years of the Tories with dodgy contracts outsourcing tax breaks for their mates etc.
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  114. The Greek government didn't implement the structural reforms that were needed and ended up in the worst of both worlds. Unlike Greece we have the means if not the will to do something about it, what's clear with this defection is that FINNALY the home counties are starting to feel the pain of Thatcherism
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  115. The legislation appears to be badly crafted but its design is to just cause an argument an act of an extremly desperate party trying to throw anything they can to stir up division and trouble why do Labour need to play that game?
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  116. The Corbyn project brought itself down
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  117.  @razorednight  Sunak's policies will self immolate the lot of them I can't see a Braverman being electable in any shape or form. Or any of the Fashy bunch they'll turn too The problem they will have is current polling suggests a mean of 100 seats there's not that many moderates to start with so you'll be left with the likes of Desmond Swain Marc Francois etc Even Mogg's seat doesn't look safe to tactical voting
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  118. Yea right 20+ poll lead after the car crash that was Corbyn
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  119.  @keithparker1346  Blair was an avowed centerist Thatcher before him was on the hard right economically as was Osborne after him However much you think you hate Starmer or whatever concoction about him being a closet Tory you have in your head the alternative is x1000 worse Whatever my antipathy for Bair is and there was a lot I disagreed with again the alternative proved to be catastrophic the damage Osborne has done to this country and the chain of events created by his policies has literally taken us to the cliff edge. If you want to get a glimpse of how insane the current Tory party is go listen to Lord Frost parrot the fossil lobbies rambling fed him by the Tufton Street Crew. We may have gotten rid of Truss but that economic model of a deregulated low tax zero service Tory economic shyte hole that serves the 1% is currently where we are heading.
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  120. ​@stanguy4491 no there not non of them will raise taxes but there's a huge range of options on how you keep the same tax base but slice it differently There's 13 years of trickle down tax and policy to rip out the system outsourcing consultancy the total Tory grift
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  121.  @GlennLeinster  The Greens campaigned against ULEZ in UXBRIDGE. Corbyn was the reason the Labour party crashed and burned the last election with his fantasy manifesto. The guy has never passed any sort of policy in his life you need to get yourself a proper hero and stop venerating a left wing populist there just the same as right wing populists promise everything deliver nothing.
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  122. @keithparker1346  why do you do that your completely wrong yet its deliberate? The greens round my way wanted to close down development of a proposed cycle way expansion in the town because it chopped a few trees down
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  123.  @keithparker1346 I catch up with news views and opinions from the left to the right. If you sit in your own echo chamber all you hear is bias reinforcement. Maybe they are overcorrecting to the centre we shall see, the right wing media while disheartened with the Tories really want to lay into Labour on anything and everything they possibly can, they even gave Sunak a soft ride on expanded oil licences even though there's something like 70% broad approval for nett zero.
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  124. Corbyn was a populist like Truss and Johnson would have suffered the same fate driven his party into oblivion
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  125. ​ @colinsixhitter3303 I do yougov polls just stop oil are extremely unpopular Your classic older voter don't want any of it at the moment. The media are also ttryiing to drum up a narrative of against net zero. Dowden quoted a Mail piece claiming going renewable under Labour would ost every household >1000 per year People are genuinely scared
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  126. The biggest looser in decades no thanks
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  127. @keithparker1346  Populism on the left with Corbyn would produce the same car crash results as Populism on the right has with Bojo and Lettuce Liz has
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  128. The Tory brand is Completely Toxic it's been taken over by UKIP ification. The SNP also have a competency problem People just want things to work
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  129. the guy has willful blindness towards anti semitism same as a lot on the left what do you do?
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  130.  @fatherjack1148  there will be a world of difference 28 billion on renewables planning reform refugees processed freeing up 6 billion in wasted money reduction in waiting lists for the NHS etc. This story is from a Murdoch paper there will be a never ending stream of them
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  131. @keithparker1346  improve process flow get nurses and doctors doing their job not chasing their tails dealing with never ending crisis Even the Tories under Johnson identified the removal of social care places by councils had caused bed blocking I presume their plan was to pump money into the private sector to deal with it but its shelved now.
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  132. @keithparker1346  you can throw that back at me IF Labour get into power Funnily enough the MSM are having a reboot of Sunak is turning this round we know he can't on the economy and energy specifically due to ideology - Brexit Jesus + Thatchers Ghost won't let him. I'd also add that I'm retired but am on a zero hour contract with the local school I do 1-1 invigilating at exam time for special needs pupils if you get the wording wrong on legislation you'll screw up vocational occasional work like this.
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  133. The election will be about the economy the Tories have increased borrowing 13 years straight The issue is current interest rates are climbing and our economy is shrinking we're in a period of stagflation
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  134. He lost Labour 2 winnable elections and allowed the Cons the mother of all car crash Brexit But hey blame everything on everyone else
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  135. If you pull the tax breaks and subsidies from them 90+% won't happen the marginal costs are slim. 99% of this by Sunak is posturing people shouldn't be angry about the licences but about the 10s of billions of tax subsidies
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  136. ​ @therealrobertbirchall it would be an economic train wreck that would make Brexit look like a training exercise
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  137.  @therealrobertbirchall  47% according to polls
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  138.  @therealrobertbirchall  as soon as people start pointing to the Car crash that is Brexit support will go down. You could have been semi Indipendant in the EU outside Scotland is completely screwed
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  139. Sunak is a Thatcherite free market true believer Which is why where heading for a recession next year they can't change leader again without an election its now a question of how badly do they loose when one is called
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  140. 90% of vehicles in the area meet the requirements its post 2008 for a car post 2014 for diesel the Cons ran a lie and blame Khan strategy when it was a Tory policy anyway
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  141. My takeaway was there was a lot of tactical voting and the Tories will go full climate denial because ULEZ stemmed the bleeding Labour, Lib-Dems & Greens need to do a full on assault on the media pointing out the billions in fossil subsides and that its the Tories that have tied our market to Gas prices and that renewables are miles cheaper.
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  142. @lynnevenables7193  get out of your echo chamber and watch / listen to a variety of opinions all your doing is confirmation bias reinforcement There's no doubt that Labour need to pivot to a more centre left position to get elected but the media in the UK is owned by offshore billionaires who want to keep the Tories in power at all costs. I read the FT and sometimes the Times when I go down the library it's generally not that biased with a centre right slant the hit pieces stand out like a sore thumb. Have a go at Starmer for what he is not what the MSM make him out to be
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  143. Is this sponsoreby the Tories?
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  144. In what way the Cons haven't balanced the books or grown the economy in 13 Years and if you don't do that then working and middle class people's lives won't improve. and even following a more centrist agenda won't turn the economy around Major left Blair a half decent economy albeit ravaged by Thatcherism Sunak will leave a raging skip fire blighted not only by 13 years of Thatcherism but having Austerity piled on top + another 4 economic shocks in Covid, Brexit, the Energy Crisis and Liz Truss.
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  145. @keithparker1346  maybe he is in your opinion but you bellyached like mad when they did this to Corbyn It's the usual strategy divide and rule the Tories can win with as little as 36% and there's nothing the likes of Murdoch wouldn't do to keep the status quo of huge tax breaks funneling up billions to the rich.
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  146.  @AbuHashemPSC  The Greens are a bunch of dicks round where I live at local council level over planning we are desperately short of affordable housing.
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  147.  @skyblazeeterno  There's already property and stock taxes called Capital Gains Tax In 2016 Sunak along with his Party voted to reduce these to 20% In 2021 the Budgetary office recommended these be realigned with income tax Sunak declined to act on the recommendations. This would raise 14 Billion As an aside Sunak paid the bulk of his income as CGT @ 20% There is plenty of money in the system if you know where to find it ;)
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  148. You gave us the worst labour leader at the worst possible time for this country and your bleating because the current lot may have to overcorrect to become electable? You then have the check to spout complete nonsense about Labour's current position, even if they went as far as Blair's centrism they would be a million miles from being Tory.
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  149. Labour needs to be a broad tent party trying to turn it into a socialist wet dream has kept them out of power for 12 years Corbyn was an absolute disaster
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  150.  @annenunney9907  remind which election he won? He even handed them a landslide by voting for an election in 2019 with the car crash Brexit that resulted instead of holding his nerve and forcing a second referendum The guy was fkin useless in fact he was worse than useless
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  151.  @jake751  WEAK what pair of rose tinted spectacles do you watch PMQ's with?
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  152. Given that that approach isn't working and hasn't worked for 13 years and that all the left leaning think tanks and academics have pointed this out repeatedly then the answer is no. Reeve has a degree from the LSE seen a couple of interviews one I remember she was talking about infrastructure investment and the Sky journo just didn't understand a word she was saying and kept on as if infrastructure was a flat negative cost. She and the labour party as a whole are having to deal with really stupid people who have got in their tiny brains that the UK finances are like a households finances
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  153.  @oneoflokis  EV and battery tech are on what's called the S curve you have to remember that this started over 10 years ago. In the same way that governments across the globe put money into vaccine research the US EU and China are in a veritable arms race Investment in renewables in the US 1.75 trillion in the EU projected 800 billion in the UK ?? The latest news on affordability is the production of Sodium Ion batteries by CATL production started in Feb and its 20%+ cheaper than current lithium based could go to 40% cheaper
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  154. The economy back then was not the skip fire it is now and as far as I'm aware there are multiple policies that will form the election push the Tories have already tried stealing the child policy though how much of the Nurseries will be left after another 1 1/2 years of crushing energy costs and sliding living standards is moot. Talking to some friends of mine who vote Con most will vote Lib-Dem next election or not at all (were in a no win seat for Labour heavily Tory) there's some talk of Reform UK as the rabid xenophobe's latest squeeze but we shall see
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  155. there's no such thing as a red tory, the Cons are way off the range economically all your riling against is a bit of soft centerism and a hit piece from a Murdock rag
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  156. First off I have sympathy with Corbyn but he needed to keep his head down when the leadership changed Saw an interview with Lee Anderson over on Nova stating the Tories won big in 2019 on 3 things Boris, Brexit and Corbyn non of which will be in play for 2024 and he was going on about ramping up culture wars.
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  157.  @adriftinaboat3452  There is a key difference between the Tories and Labour so calling any Labour leader Tory mark 2 is just being ignorant. The Conservatives run Supply Side Trickle down economics as was ably seen by the Fiscal Drag Bankers tax break and Millionaire Pensioners tax break in the last Budget Labour run Keynesian Demand Side economic model which emphasises investment in social and physical infrastructure to increase demand at the lower middle level by boosting incomes. The 2 produce completely different economies even if they have the same tax basis
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  158. Bit rich Corbyn calling someone a coward when he folded and gave Johnson an election on a plate. Biggest act of political cowerdice I've ever seen bumbling fool needs to keep his nose out no one needs advice from a political looser.
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